“They Offered Me $1,000,000!” JasonTheWeen on Leaving FaZe, MrBeast Rumors & Spending Everything

11:11JasonTheWeenie:So after the first subathon that I did, which was September of 2023, 2024, after I went home and I finally told them the truth after I bought them cars. So it took a car. What car did you buy? I bought my mom like a 2025 Lexus, bought my dad like a nice Ford truck, and I bought my aunt. a lexus suv it was like you know the typical asian car how did you afford that though if you're making five to ten thousand dollars a month no no no first subathon i made this was like two one and a half years into my streaming career and it was the face subathon first face up on after i joined face so like i kind of skipped the timeline a bit um that month i made around like like 600k 600 000 and you were were you in college then no you were out of college i was

12:13Garry Vee:okay so you made 600 000 in the first phase of it yeah yeah it was a good month for me

12:18JasonTheWeenie:did you always know that you're going to be successful uh no honestly i don't like for me people like map out their next five years or whatever but i really live day by day and like I plan for the year I don't I don't like look five years in the future like I want to do this in five years or 10 years down the line I want to do this in 10 years like I focus on the present to be honest that's my mindset do you think that that mentality is the

12:48Garry Vee:one that served you to help you get to like where you're at right now like that is the main thing or like what made you any different than other people that do the same thing um yeah honestly I was just

12:58JasonTheWeenie:really obsessed with being a streamer and making it as a streamer. And I just was every day after school or whatever it was, I would just plan, plan, plan. And I would literally sacrifice time with my friends, even family, and just think of ideas or I'd be streaming.

13:23Garry Vee:Of a lot of the people that we have on this podcast, we've noticed that hunger is kind of one of the main things that helps people be super successful. You don't even have to worry about motivation because you just want something so bad that it just seems like the obvious thing to do is to work on it. Where do you think your hunger came from?

13:38JasonTheWeenie:I mentioned this earlier. My parents, obviously, I mean, obviously they're on the older side. Like my dad had me when he was like late 40s. Mom was like early 40s. So now my dad's like 70 years old and I'm 21. So in my mind, I was like, yo, I got to make money quick so I can provide for them and buy them the things that would make them happy at a young age. So they don't like, you know, they don't pass before I'm able to do those things. So that was like my main motivator was my parents.

14:15Garry Vee:So what was the first piece of content you posted online?

14:18JasonTheWeenie:I was trying to be a YouTuber. Those videos are lost. I don't know where that. But they exist online. They exist somewhere on the internet. If someone can find them, they might be privated actually. But I was like probably like 13, 14 just making, I was just talking to myself on YouTube. Or maybe it was Musical.ly's or Trillers. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Who was your inspiration back then? Like who would you watch? I would watch a lot of Ryan Higa, OG YouTubers, Vanoss, Ricegum. And I would be early in the Twitch. I would watch like Raj Patel, LOL, Tyler1, LOL Tyler1. I would watch Greek God X. I was just like an internet kid.

15:08I was always on the internet because I was the only child.

15:10JasonTheWeenie:I don't know. I didn't really go outside, I'm going to be honest.

15:14Garry Vee:Do you remember the first time you went viral?

15:16JasonTheWeenie:Yes, it was on TikTok. Posted a video. It was COVID. I told my friend, we made a bet. I told my friend, I bet you I can get a viral video before we get back to school next week. Obviously, we didn't go back to school next week. But I made a TikTok. It was me at the free throw line. And the caption was, what Asian kids hear at the free throw line? and it was me like saying Jeremy Lin and Yao Ming. So it was just a dumb video. And that just popped off. It got like 2 million views, and that dopamine hit my brain. And I was like, oh, I got to keep going, I got to keep going. And I just, that's how the cringey shit happened.

15:59JasonTheWeenie:And yeah, never stopped. What was the cringiest video you made? This video, four poses. My chat knows about this. I went on like all fours, and like I posed in like a dumb outfit. got like 3 million views.

16:14Garry Vee:Did you ever film a video that was too cringy you couldn't post it?

16:18JasonTheWeenie:No, I posted every cringy shit. You did not care. I went for cringe. Like that was my niche was cringe. That's what got the views from me. So I posted everything. And then after I'd post, I was just like hit one of these and then go on with my day.

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17:51Garry Vee:Is streaming harder than a nine to five?

17:55JasonTheWeenie:This question, man, is streaming harder than a nine to five? I would, it just depends on the nine to five like um if it's obviously like doctors surgeons way harder than streaming but like fast food workers i would say nine uh nine to five is easier uh because you know with streaming you always got to keep your head afloat right you always got to stay on top of the game and if you're if you're not sure you got to think about streaming you got to like be obsessed to be successful. But overall, I think streaming is definitely easier. I mean, I can make up.

18:35Matt D'Avella:I don't think so. I'm going to be on record saying streaming is harder than a 9 to 5. Really? Because you have to be a self-starter, self-motivated, consistent. You have to battle every single odd out there. You have to basically compete with tens of thousands of people every single day for eyeballs. That's a lot of jobs, though. You have to be HR, editing, marketing, design, ideation.

18:57Garry Vee:The only reason why people say streaming is easier than 9 to 5 is because you make a lot more money streaming. Like if streamers were not making the money they were making and you were just making like average incomes, people would probably not be saying the same thing. I mean, it just depends on the 95.

19:14JasonTheWeenie:Like 9 to 5 workers, like someone at McDonald's, like they don't really do that much. you know shout out to my uh burger flippers but you know i i feel like me as a streamer like is way like way harder than a burger flipper at mcdonald's right how many hours do you work per week i don't even know but i'm very obsessed like if i'm not streaming i'm gonna call with my team talking about my future streams uh and i've been planning out a lot of big i've been always

19:43Matt D'Avella:trying to think of the next big thing like walk us through an average day like what time do you wake up? How long do you stream? When do you come up with ideas? Do you ever just like wake up one day and you're like this? I just don't feel like doing this.

19:55JasonTheWeenie:No, I mean, I've been burnt out before, but I always push through. Like, I don't know. I think it's the obsession. It just pushes me through. But average day of my, of Jason Ween, I wake up around like 10. Ideally, I would go to the

20:17JasonTheWeenie:And then I would go to the X-Faze house and I would just stream. And then after stream, I would hop on a call with my team who consists of my creative, my tech person Woj, my creative, Sticky, and also my editor and my assistant Lou. And we just brainstorm, map out the week, the month, even the next couple months. And yeah, that'd be all. and then I go and then I just go to sleep and then repeat really that's my schedule nothing nothing crazy I don't really go out at all and unless I'm traveling that's basically my life

20:58Matt D'Avella:how do you keep the streams fresh though and interesting because I feel like you always have

21:02JasonTheWeenie:to like one-up it with streaming you gotta have a balance of like desktop with your community and Keep your core tight, but also try to think of the next big thing to cater to the bigger audience. So in these meetings is what I'm talking about. Like, oh, tomorrow, what am I doing? And next week, what am I doing? I've been planning this seven-day stranded idea where I'm put on an island by myself, right? And as a streamer, I mean, look at me. I'm not a survival expert, right? I got to survive seven days straight on an island with minimal gear. And I spent over like$270 ,000 on this idea because it's just straight production.

21:54JasonTheWeenie:No cameraman, just me surviving.

21:57Matt D'Avella:What do you spend$270 ,000 on?

22:00JasonTheWeenie:I have the PDF. It's just the production crew, 24-hour medical assistant just in case I get bit by anything crazy. Hopefully not or eat something dope. And the island itself. Where do you rent an island? I had my team look for me. But there was a lot of options. Really? To rent the whole island? No Epstein. You can literally get any island in the world if you have enough money. But my island was around like$125 for a week. For a week? Yeah.

22:34Matt D'Avella:Is there anything on the island? Like bathrooms or like a hut?

22:38JasonTheWeenie:straight island it's pretty like it's tropical uh not really any civilization on the island

22:46Matt D'Avella:where are you gonna get food how are you gonna get food water like i gotta climb coconut trees i'm living off coconuts so you scouted out the island to make sure there's like enough food on

22:56JasonTheWeenie:the island i could survive yeah woj my uh tech guy my prop my production guy he actually was just on the island yesterday. Check that out. Scoped out the area. Like, oh, the camera's going to be right here. Camera's going to be right here. And I'm trying to create like a chat box, a literal box where I can go in and read the chat for.

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23:51JasonTheWeenie:A minimal amount. Nothing crazy. I don't know. I'm still working out the ideas, the creative.

23:56Matt D'Avella:Do you know what I think you should do? I liked Ryan Trahan where if someone donates like 50k, something happens. It's like a punishment. Oh, yeah.

24:04JasonTheWeenie:That old punishment. I would like to see.

24:06Matt D'Avella:Yeah. I would like to see if someone gives you like 10k or 20k or 50k or like a certain dollar amount or like something happens to you where you have to spend like another day on the island. Like it's like 50k and you spend another day on the island. Seven days already. Or maybe it's a hundred K, but it's got to be an amount where like you spend another day on the island. or like you get your coconuts taken away or like something like no water for 24 hours like something crazy gonna be struggling something crazy or you can't sleep like you have to be up like all night

24:38JasonTheWeenie:i was told there's sand fleas i was told the bug situation is crazy and i was talking to mr beast about this because uh he's done the seven days on an island done the deserted island videos and he said it was the first video he ever had to leave and redo. It was because of the bugs. He lasted two days on the island and he was like, I can't do this anymore.

25:04Garry Vee:How are you going to fight the bugs then?

25:07JasonTheWeenie:Bug spray? Mental fortitude.

25:09Matt D'Avella:I don't think it's fair to go to an island with bug spray. That seems to me that's cheating.

25:15Garry Vee:Graham, good luck surviving 20 minutes on an island. But I'm not doing it. Yeah, but either way, you cannot survive in a room that's under 68 degrees. Like, and you're going to be like, oh, yeah, you can't survive with bug spray on an island. That's just crazy. He's already going to be like hungry, thirsty, uncomfortable. Yeah, an extra day.

25:34JasonTheWeenie:But I do have, I'm trying to implement this idea. I might partner with a charity where like, oh, if you, if I reach this amount of subs or donate a dollar amount, there'll be a care package with like, I don't know, some type of loot in the care package.

25:55Matt D'Avella:What other ideas have you had like this that maybe you've decided is too far? I went skydiving. I mean, that's not that bad though. It wasn't that bad. That was pretty good. Like, would you ever bury yourself alive or do anything crazy like that?

26:08JasonTheWeenie:Like too, that's too, I wouldn't do that, no. So props to Mr. Breach for doing that. I couldn't. That is terrifying.

26:15Matt D'Avella:Or what about like Fear Factor where you're eating insects? Oh, I've done that. That wasn't that bad.

26:20JasonTheWeenie:What have you eaten? Crickets. Live? No, live. Okay. But I've eaten live octopus. What was that like? It was disgusting. Where? Like in Korea. It squirted in my mouth. It was horrible. You didn't like that? And I never do it again. And when I swallowed, the tentacles were still moving. Why did you do that, though? I'm a dumb streamer. How much was it? It wasn't that much.

26:52Matt D'Avella:Did you feel bad for the octopus? No. Because you're pretty smart, you know? Yeah. They say the intelligence of an octopus is like a fifth grader. Really? Yeah. Dang, I did not know that. No, actually.

27:05JasonTheWeenie:Maybe I gained IQ after eating it.

27:07Matt D'Avella:That's not true. It is. Look it up.

27:10Garry Vee:What are you even talking about? Look it up. A fifth grader, 11-year-old kid. The octopus is as smart as an 11-year-old kid. Oh, he's Googling. Dude, you, what 11-year-old kid are you talking about? Because I hope it's not my son. I don't have a son, but if I eventually have one.

27:24Matt D'Avella:Second grade. Okay. Okay, that still is insane. Oh, wow. Overall cognitive level is ages five to seven, where they're advanced. There are skills that look like third to fifth grade plus, sometimes better than adult humans. And that's problem solving, puzzles, learning by watching others, tools, and spatial reasoning.

27:49JasonTheWeenie:Well, he's in my stomach, so. He must have been doing something wrong.

27:55Matt D'Avella:Yeah. Okay, so technically a second grader. You ate a second grader. I don't know if I want to put it like that. that's crazy i still don't necessarily buy it but octopus are very smart and that's why i've stopped eating octopus really yeah because apparently they're very uh receptive to pain no and when you kill these things like they actually seem to show awareness of what's happening to i kid you not feel guilty it's true dude i already ate him yeah i know i'm just saying now when when i see octopus on the menu i don't eat it anymore because i've seen these these whole experiments showing like how they think and how they understand uh and there's like all these things with an octopus where i feel like that's too smart like if it's a dumb thing where it just doesn't like like you know uh like a jellyfish there's no brain or anything like that it's just it just sells.

28:54Matt D'Avella:So I could rationalize eating a jellyfish, but an octopus just knows what's going on a little too much. Do you feel bad now?

29:01JasonTheWeenie:I feel horrible. I ate a second grader, asshole.

29:05Garry Vee:Aside from octopi and squid, now that you're traumatized, your trauma in regards to your work, what is the most mentally exhausting part of being a streamer?

29:15JasonTheWeenie:I think with streaming and content creating in general uh it's ups downs and you know it's a lot of downs and when you're at the downs like oh what am i doing wrong like it's a lot of self-doubt right and it's like you got people telling you oh you fell off and all these things but it's like one month right and you know it could be january it could be december we have a bad month but as long as the trajectory is up at the end of the year then you're doing fine right and every content creator goes through the same thing um and is mentally taxing right you get burnt out when you don't see the results that you want but as long as you're consistent and you keep going and you keep moving forward and thinking of new ideas you will as a content creator be okay what's your least favorite part of your job?

30:08JasonTheWeenie:People on the internet that judge you and try to micromanage your life. Like, oh, I seen you treat your girlfriend like this on stream. There's no way you deserve her. You should be buying her more flowers. Parasocial people. Too parasocial. It's creepy and weird.

30:32Garry Vee:If you as a viewer think you can read between the lines, I would say 99 % of the time you are incorrect. You know, like I would just take most of what influencers tell you or YouTubers, whatever you want to call them, at face value with a healthy level of skepticism. And then that's it. Anything else, you're just completely speculating and you're probably wrong.

30:51JasonTheWeenie:Yeah, I mean, I think those people should put that time into like a job.

30:58Matt D'Avella:What do you think is the biggest thing they've gotten wrong about you? They need to get a job. Yeah, a streamer says you got to get a job, guys. Put the fries in the bag. Sorry for the slur. What's the biggest thing you think they've gotten wrong about stuff like that?

31:10JasonTheWeenie:Especially when my first relationship was very public. They would just say that she's cheating.

31:19Matt D'Avella:Is that like the go-to always?

31:21JasonTheWeenie:Yeah, yeah. Especially Twitch culture is like, oh, your girlfriend's cheating on you because she hung up with a guy one time.

31:27Matt D'Avella:What's it like having a relationship just so public out there?

31:30JasonTheWeenie:yeah i mean um right now it's very public but especially in the beginning when when things were first starting out it was way more public and i had advice from cutie and ludwig and they've just said to keep it as private as possible and obviously it's a public relationship and people know that we're dating but i feel like now people don't really know what we do off the cameras and And it's been a lot healthier and less toxic online.

32:00Garry Vee:So everyone is extremely invested in my dating life, like concerningly invested. Yes, I see the comments. Yes, I've been on the dating apps. And yes, I took a break. Eventually, I came to the obvious conclusion that being on those dating apps and having the exact same boring conversation like, what do you do for work? What are you doing out here? Made me tired without even going on the date, which on the opposite end is exactly what I like about our sponsor, The League. It just feels way more intentional. I've used it before and the matches were consistently solid. You're not digging through hundreds of different profiles.

32:30Garry Vee:You get a smaller filtered set every single day, which honestly feels like someone else did all of the homework for you. The league is thoughtfully curated to keep the community high quality and intentional, which is absolutely insane because somehow I made it on the app. I'm kidding. That's a self-deprecating joke. But some people will not make it on the app because they're really selective with who gets on. Obviously, that just means you're not there to rack up matches. You're there to find the one that actually matters. Way less scrolling and way less small talk and more momentum towards something real.

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33:27JasonTheWeenie:I was actually at Ruggs, FaZe Ruggs. Well, I guess not FaZe anymore, but Ruggs' house yesterday. And he showed me his earnings. I'm not going to leak his earnings, but if you're averaging his views, he's clearing me at least every month. So, no.

33:45Garry Vee:I think Ruggs, his lifetime earnings on YouTube, my guess, has got to be over 40 million yeah yeah i would say i would say close to 50 million is what i was thinking maybe a little bit higher but like between 40 and and 60 he is in my opinion

34:05Matt D'Avella:one of the smartest most financially responsible youtubers with one of the best careers the best work ethic good investments solid foundation and he's just smart with it like when it comes to anything financial, I would trust him. Oh, 100%.

34:20JasonTheWeenie:He has a whole real estate business that not a lot of people know about. He's doing his thing. What advice does he give you? He's helped me with public relationships. He just says to keep it private. I feel like most people say that. Financially, I haven't had a conversation.

34:39Matt D'Avella:You don't ask about money advice? He'd be the first one. I'd be like, what do I do with this money? Where do I put it?

34:45JasonTheWeenie:I think he would just tell me to invest in it. property and as basic as it sounds that has made him an abundant amount of money he's told me um and i'm like just shocked so definitely want to get more in a property this year yeah rug if you're

35:02Garry Vee:watching this we're huge fans come on the pod love to have you on man we'll drive down to you we were just in san diego yeah anyways yeah love you rub but who who would you say you most take inspiration from all I know like who uh who's your mentor now I think I take a lot of inspiration from

35:26JasonTheWeenie:like big streamers around me and like or it could be around me or like Kai Speed or even people that I live with like you had him on this podcast uh Stable Renato yeah Lacey Marlin Adapt Silky literally just people around me i take inspiration i see their worth ethic and it once it also motivates me it's like friendly competition in a way right um it just i see them doing good i see them putting effort in it makes me want to do the same right we all have the same goal of trying to be the best and that motivates motivates me and i'm sure it motivates them what was the appeal of joining phase clan like how do they reach out to you what was that like i was friends with stable Ronaldo who was at the time was in phase obviously that whole thing happened and none of us are in phase anymore um but yeah he was in phase and I developed a relationship with him online we were just playing games on stream we met through a twitch chat and we were just calling discord play games and we got closer I visited LA and I met him for the first time and we did some IRL streams out out here in LA and yeah I remember our first stream we went to Venice Beach and ate edibles like it was super stupid and yeah I just became close friends with Stable Renato and he pitched me two phase and when they were launching the new phase

36:59Garry Vee:I was a part of it and when did things start to get a little more serious between you and Ron Like, serious as in, like, that, like.

37:07Matt D'Avella:Like, when did you guys. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Let me, let me. I'm sorry. I could not. I could not. When did you take it to the next step? Like, when did you and Ron make it official? Yeah. What do you mean official?

37:16JasonTheWeenie:Like, closer friends?

37:18Garry Vee:Yeah. When did you guys become really close? It just, I don't know. We got some people DMing us some stuff. But we don't need to get into it. Okay. So, don't we? But you just made it seem like, yeah, we started talking online. And then, like, you know what I mean? And I was thinking, yeah, we met up in person. Yeah, I did something about it like that. We did it really well. We kind of hung out. Dude, we're going to put some romantic music behind this.

37:38JasonTheWeenie:Oh, man. No, you are funny. But when did things get serious with you and Ron? Closer friends. Okay. I guess when we first moved into the first phase LA house, when we lived together, we just naturally talked more. And holy shit.

37:58Garry Vee:Are you figuring something out about yourself right now? Maybe. When we moved in together.

38:04JasonTheWeenie:We both have girlfriends, but there might be something going on. No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. But yeah, that LA house, me and all the guys, we got closer. Jesus Christ. Okay. But yeah, that house.

38:20Matt D'Avella:That's awesome. Yeah. How does the business with FaZe work? Is it like they would take a percentage of earnings or do they give you deals?

38:29Garry Vee:What was in it for you to join FaZe? Why did you join?

38:32JasonTheWeenie:I didn't have, they didn't give us anything money-wise, but they would pay for production and rent in return. And we would do just group sponsors and things like that. But yeah, the idea of a content house was always one of my dreams. like um you could probably find a clip of me somewhere where i'm back in arlington texas literally talking about oh i want to make a group with with my friends let's leave my dream just make content together like the sidemen or or like these these content groups where you literally just hang out with your friends and record videos that's literally the dream you know me and and And here in the LA phase house, I was like, I'm down.

39:20I'm down.

39:20JasonTheWeenie:This sounds exciting. It sounds new. It's fresh. Let's do it. How much of an impact did that have in your career? It had a huge impact, right? Moving to LA and just meeting all these people, it was huge, right? And when I first moved out to LA, we all started to IRL stream a lot more. and I would argue that we popularized IRL streaming. We would literally just go to In-N-Out and play basketball just as a group and just have fun.

39:54Garry Vee:Would you ever join another content house?

39:56JasonTheWeenie:No, no. I mean, right now I live in a content house, but there's no name behind it. It's just me, Ron, Lacey, Silky, Adapt, and Marlon.

40:08Garry Vee:And what content houses were actually successful? like very few have stood the test of time. I mean, you have Sidemen, which is not even a content house, but like they, you know, Not a content group.

40:19JasonTheWeenie:I say Sidemen, the Beta Squad, um, The Bop House.

40:26Matt D'Avella:Dude, they're printing.

40:28Garry Vee:They are printing. I think Sophia Rain, Sophie Rain? Sophie Rain just did$100 million. She just finally cleared$100 million of earnings. Thank you.

40:37JasonTheWeenie:I actually saw a Twitter post today saying she makes more than LeBron James in a year.

40:44Garry Vee:She works pretty hard. I actually think she must be somewhat of a genius in order to be making the money she's making. Like, you can't just stumble upon making that much money in the way she's doing it. That's up for debate. But in order to actually go and be that productive, economically productive, there has to be some, or she has the right people around her, you know?

41:05JasonTheWeenie:Yeah, I mean, I feel like she's harder working than LeBron James? I'm joking. No, I don't think she's harder working than LeBron James. What happened to Faze? So there's a lot I can't speak about. But I'll say this. The business side, we as a group, we were always aligned. We always wanted to make content together. And we were happy to be in the same house together making content. But on the business side of things, we just always had our differences. And sometimes we would never align. and that problem just never went away. And it was like a breakup. It was better if we both just split both parties.

41:48Matt D'Avella:It just seemed so sudden, because when we had Stable on, things were seeming to be on the up and up, and that was like two months ago, and then it just seemed like...

41:57JasonTheWeenie:It was a buildup, but a lot of it we didn't talk about, obviously, because we were in phase-up. But yeah, we just, over time, just realized things were never going to work out on the business side of things.

42:11Matt D'Avella:And what's it like now being out of that and having to pay rent? Because I saw that one clip. Who was it who was talking about having to pay$17 ,000 in rent?

42:21JasonTheWeenie:It was Lacey. It was Lacey. That's a bit of an over-exaggeration. Was it like$15 ,000 in rent? It's like$11 ,000. $11 ,000?

42:29Matt D'Avella:With utilities, though. Yeah, with utilities. $17 ,000.

42:33JasonTheWeenie:I mean, it's the first time I'm paying rent. How much is rent? It's like$12 ,000. You pay$12 ,000 a month? Yeah, in rent, which is pretty expensive. Holy shit, that's a lot. Yeah, that's a lot.

42:46Matt D'Avella:Do you split that with anybody, or that's just your portion? No, the house is split in between six people.

42:56JasonTheWeenie:So it's$12 ,000 per person.

42:59Garry Vee:Holy shit,$12 ,000? So$72 ,000 a month is what they're taking on the house? Yeah. Holy shit, that's a big house. Yeah, it's a huge house.

43:07Matt D'Avella:Are they overcharging you because they see like six dudes and the guy's just like, hey, I'm not going to rent to you, but if I get$72 ,000 a month, sure.

43:15JasonTheWeenie:I have no idea because FaZe actually picked the house and they're like, yo, this is a new FaZe house. So we didn't really have a say in picking the house. Oh, it's that house. So the old offline TV house. Oh, it's not worth that. Really?

43:32Matt D'Avella:He was in real estate. That was his thing here in L.A. Yeah, yeah. He was in L.A.? Yes. I was in real estate. I'm familiar with that property. Decent location. Really? Yeah. But that to me, I think he's in charge of like$70 ,000 to$80 ,000. No, I don't think it's worth more than$45 ,000 a month, which sounds crazy to say, but when you look at the carrying cost of that house and the property taxes of the house and how much they were trying to sell that house before in the past, that, in my opinion, is what it's worth.

43:58JasonTheWeenie:What? It's, that's.

44:00Matt D'Avella:But listen, it's a great house. And listen, if you spend 7 ,000 or 12 ,000 in the big, it's not going to make that big of a difference. Yeah. In your life. You got a great house. Yeah, it's a good house, but I think we're moving out soon.

44:13Garry Vee:And is everyone going to get their own place?

44:16JasonTheWeenie:Um, that conversation has not been said yet. I think we all want to stick as a group. And who knows? We might create something new. Don't know yet. Is FaZe Clan completely over? I think on the content side of things, yes. But they still have a whole esports thing, which is doing well. That's crazy because they bought it back, right? Yeah, but literally everyone left. Like, a dap left. That's how you know it's over.

44:47Garry Vee:To me, it sounds suspicious. And especially how people are saying, oh, yeah, I can't get into some details of it. Then it's like, okay, there probably is something more than just like a line item business thing. where it's like, oh yeah, like we couldn't come to terms on this percent. And then this cost, this profit, how are we splitting it? It seems like there was something else just from an outsider's perspective. And I feel like most people are probably thinking the same thing.

45:11JasonTheWeenie:A lot I can't speak about.

45:14Matt D'Avella:Not on the internet. Not on the internet. Fair enough. Yeah. I'm curious though, through all of this, what's the craziest money opportunity that you've been

45:22JasonTheWeenie:offered i've been offered kick deals before but i didn't take them because i don't think it's worth it um how are they offering you like million dollar deals i didn't really look into it my manager just told me so your manager came to you and said i have a million dollar deal for you

45:41Garry Vee:to stream on kicking like i'm not going to look at it um honestly i i don't remember it was a

45:47JasonTheWeenie:while back it was like way before even even phase i don't remember so then those numbers were even more significant to you at the time yeah they were i actually considered it but if i took it i would definitely not be where i'm at today because i feel like it's hard to grow on that platform yeah for sure like no i don't think the platform like the mobile app to his ass like i don't know yeah

46:14Garry Vee:But being a part of FaZe, FaZe's thing I feel like is being so well-connected. Like I saw on someone's stream or it was a clip or something, LaMelo Ball just like casually walking up to the FaZe house.

46:24JasonTheWeenie:Yeah.

46:25Garry Vee:That's crazy. So you guys' contact list must be insane. I imagine there are opportunities just flooding your life. What would you say is like another crazy opportunity just due to the network you have? I mean, moving out here alone,

46:39JasonTheWeenie:I've met so many cool people, so many cool creators. literally um mr b's facetiming me randomly out at the day like bro that is surreal like 15 year old me would be freaking out right um and yeah i mean i met so many cool people i met bronny james before um trying to think who else yeah i've met la mella ball who did you fangirl most over low-key when i was on my come up and like i was like a way smaller streamer when i would go to twitchcon every big streamer i saw i would literally just

47:15Garry Vee:start jumping up and down was there one moment in particular you can think of i remember uh

47:20JasonTheWeenie:meeting xqc xqc you saved my life but i was also on camera so i was you know exaggerating it a bit um who else mr beast yeah um my mind is drawing a blank who's the most famous person your contacts Definitely Mr. Beast.

47:40Garry Vee:Mr. Beast. Yeah.

47:41Matt D'Avella:You know, he's more followed now than Cristiano Ronaldo.

47:44Garry Vee:On all social media accounts, right? Yeah. Kind of. That's wild.

47:48Matt D'Avella:That's insane. That's insane. I think he's going to be one of the most recognizable people in the world pretty soon. I think over the next 10 years. He already is.

47:56Garry Vee:Yeah.

47:56Matt D'Avella:But even more so because now he's expanding into like every country in the world. His videos are like in like 30 languages or more at this point. I saw. I saw.

48:05JasonTheWeenie:what he's doing is building an empire and he's he's actually gave pretty good advice to me about content creating and he's talked to me about his obsession for being number one and and just trying to create the best content and always one-upping his last video what did mr beast tell you just to stay consistent and be obsessed literally i probably said that word maybe 30 times now this video is to be obsessed with trying to be the best and be delusional to the point where it's not delusion i take this advice from him to always invest back into your content he said that he's lost money on videos before spent millions of on content and that's why I'm doing the island thing like I'm putting that's the most money I've ever put into my content I'm putting 300k almost on onto this idea filming trailers like I'm putting so much money into this and you know I could bleed and and not make any money at all and it could be horrible it could go wrong um but you know I'm investing in myself and hopefully things go well How much do you expect to make from the island?

49:58Matt D'Avella:Terms and conditions apply.

50:28Matt D'Avella:off only on disney plus like if things go right zero dollars i'll go even really wait the best case is you just breaking even there's no way if you're streaming on an island for seven days i

50:40Garry Vee:feel like the amount of virality the potential there is crazy if you just get like 40 000 subs 50 000 extra subs that's not much a lot i feel like it's doable like that you could be overnight

50:53JasonTheWeenie:getting crazy viewership because of all the clipping yeah i mean i i'm going into it thinking i'm just gonna go i'm just trying to go even because i'm i'm streaming not to make money but to make good content and entertain what about kai sanat what did you learn from him um what do you think about him quitting youtube as well i think kai great streamer great youtuber um definitely made streaming a lot more mainstream especially in the u.s he pushed the limits of streaming and made streaming what it is now and it's inspirational i take inspiration from him and what he's doing now i think you know i think his path is is pretty smart i think he's a genius Like, what he's doing, like, he's already basically completed streaming.

51:51JasonTheWeenie:Hit a million subs. Did the Mafia-a-thon three. Yeah, he hit a million subs. I don't see him. What is he going to do now, right? I think in his mind, he completed streaming. And now he found this new passion, which is fashion. And he wants to try and beat that boss.

52:12Garry Vee:A million subs is crazy. I mean, if you're making$3 a sub,$3.50 a sub, you know, you could be pulling over$3 million.

52:20Matt D'Avella:Oh, yeah. Just from subscription. He has to spend a fortune, though. No, he spent definitely a lot of money. Yeah. My guess is he probably has 25 to 30 % profit margins on that. Just still a lot of money. But my guess, if he makes three, he's probably spending about two to two and a half. Yeah. I just like made this happen.

52:39Garry Vee:What was your incentive for doing this podcast? It's just more views to a different audience, more exposure online.

52:45JasonTheWeenie:Yeah, I would say that. And also I've seen Stable Ronaldo do a senior's clips as well. And Ron doing it makes me more comfortable doing it. It's a huge compliment, honestly, is that if we have someone on and they say like, hey,

52:59Matt D'Avella:I had a great experience. You should do it too. Like that to me makes me feel so good. Everybody benefits and we feel great. And that's amazing. Put like a good piece of content out there.

53:10Garry Vee:You might experience the same thing, but even for us, like we work super hard on our podcast, on our YouTube, on our work. But even then I'm like, how are this many people watching our show? You know, like I'm like, are we really that entertaining or can we provide that much value to viewers for them to want to tune in as regularly as they do? I don't know if you experience a similar thing. I mean, I think people watch y 'all because y 'all are smart and y 'all know how to articulate y 'all's words.

53:39JasonTheWeenie:And when they consume y 'all's content, they learn something. People watch me because I'm just dumb and I do stupid shit on the internet and it's like entertaining.

53:48Garry Vee:But there's a lot that could be learned from studying you. Maybe not like necessarily watching your content itself, but like seeing you as a person and your development. You know, you'd be a really, you're really big inspiration to a lot of people.

54:00JasonTheWeenie:Yeah, I mean, yeah, I appreciate that.

54:02Matt D'Avella:I think most people don't realize all the work and thought that goes into creating content like this and capturing so many eyeballs. And it's like, this is the new version of TV.

54:11JasonTheWeenie:Yeah, I think streaming is turning into reality TV. It is. Because, oh my, the drama is insane. Right now, I think streaming, the streaming space has been really toxic, I'm going to be honest.

54:23Matt D'Avella:Now, you said it's similar to reality TV. why has nobody come in there and just had a big house cameras everywhere 24-7 and they just have people come in like five guys five girls and one person gets voted out every week and then they have to like substitute someone new in there but you could tune in at any time I think someone has done that

54:47JasonTheWeenie:yeah I think I mean not 24-7 but like that concept and idea

54:53Matt D'Avella:yeah now i want to be able to tune in at like one o 'clock in the morning and just see the cameras and watch like the living room and again but you have these like personality matches that are either going to like clash like i want fights to break out i want like romantic relationships

55:06JasonTheWeenie:between the two and then you see like ddg might have done that he did like uh i forgot what it was called but something similar that so i think it has been done yeah i mean streaming is the new reality tv and it's it's created a very uh toxic environment but i mean it's still fun what's so toxic about it just quite recently it was just kai breaking out with his girlfriend and then the girlfriend making a video talking about oh i didn't cheat and and i'm just i'm just saying what i see on on twitter right and then you know we got everybody speaking on it because it's a it's a hot topic and you know people want to farm drama but see that's all it takes i've noticed

55:54Matt D'Avella:with mr beast too people will make these outrageous claims that get millions of views and then he'll comment and be like none of this is true this is completely false you're saying this just to get

56:03JasonTheWeenie:blown up on twitter and then you get ad revenue it's happened to me yeah it's very annoying and it's it's weird because you can't really address it because then you put more attention to it but then if you don't address it like oh my god did he actually do it like it's so it's like yeah what did happen like how are you misunderstood um i don't remember exactly but i don't know like like sometimes twitter captions they can like twist your words or like i could be walking past a homeless man and then the caption is like jason the ween walks past homeless man and doesn't care for him or you know just oh wow so whatever narrative they whatever they want to put it it's annoying it's very annoying but you can't really speak on it or you put more attention into it it's it's a lose-lose but that's the game yeah so how is your income broken down these days like where is it all coming from um well obviously twitch youtube uh i do have a brokerage But yeah, Twitch, YouTube, TikTok, Snapchat, and that's literally all socials, really.

57:18Garry Vee:All right, we're going to guess how much money you're making on each. And you're going to tell us if we're right. On each? Yeah, I like each because, well, we could do, well, each and then total. All right, okay. Okay. Twitch. Like, just by, we're doing monthly? Yeah, monthly income. Twitch, how many subs do you have right now?

57:32JasonTheWeenie:I almost have about 20K.

57:35Garry Vee:20 ,000? Okay, so do you have like sponsor streams ever? Okay. I would guess off of Twitch, you're probably making like$115 ,000,$110 ,000 a month. I'm going to say$120 ,000 with sponsors. YouTube, I would say you're probably making like$45 ,000 a month. Do you have sponsors or no? Sometimes. I would say like, yeah,$50 ,000 a month. $50 ,000. Yeah. And then Snapchat. I have no idea how much Snapchat makes. $30 ,000. I would say, yeah, maybe like$15 ,000 to$20 ,000 on Snapchat. And what are we missing? Brokerage? That's just like, it depends on how much you have invested. TikTok. TikTok. TikTok you probably make like five grand a month.

58:13Garry Vee:Seven grand a month. Maybe 10 at the most. Unless if you have sponsors, then it could be, you know, infinitely scalable. 10 at the most is my guess.

58:19JasonTheWeenie:Y 'all are pretty accurate. That's kind of scary. So how much are you making per month? I don't want to say the exact amount.

58:28Matt D'Avella:Someone's just going to add it up. But yeah, I mean,

58:31JasonTheWeenie:you could add it up and really, if you're doing math. but for Twitch you said 110, 115 that's literally like pretty accurate YouTube damn near on the dot I would say like 40 40, 45 and then TikTok I actually don't make money I put all that money I just pay my editors for that money like I just give them all the creative rewards program I just give them all the money Snapchat Snapchat I give 50 % to my cameraman.

59:09JasonTheWeenie:So, honestly, it's sometimes weird. Like, you can literally take the money out whenever you want. So, I don't really know the monthly.

59:16Garry Vee:So, you're probably making right now like 200 grand-ish or so per month. Four expenses.

59:22JasonTheWeenie:Depends on the sponsor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You could have a good sponsor. And, yeah, yeah.

59:28Garry Vee:What's the most you've made in 24 hours?

59:30JasonTheWeenie:24 hours i had a stream where i averaged like 100k viewers i probably made

59:41Garry Vee:30 to 40 30 to 40 thousand dollars in 24 hours yeah it was probably like a five hour stream six hour stream so you were making like five thousand dollars an hour

59:54JasonTheWeenie:yeah in that stream running a good amount of ads so that was a very blessed day that's and what did you spend that money on um i don't really spend my money on anything crazy most of my money i put back into my content or pay my employees and maybe buy clothes sometimes but that's about it. Do you feel rich? I do. And I'm very blessed and I'm very grateful for what I have. And my parents always taught me to stay disciplined, stay grounded. And yeah.

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1:03:26JasonTheWeenie:To be able to just be financially free. Like, you know, you're I feel rich because I'm able to just like Apple Pay and not look at my bank account, right? And I was just like, okay, I'll pay for this and I'll not look at my bank account. Like, I'm very blessed to be able to do that and to be able to wake up at any time of day and just be okay.

1:03:47Garry Vee:At what income did you get to that point of feeling so comfortable?

1:03:51JasonTheWeenie:I would say, like, probably when I started making, like, 20, 30K a month, I was, like, just buying food I felt like

1:04:06Garry Vee:a lot of people echo that same amount where they're like 20 to 30k that's like 300 grand or so a year after taxes you know depending on where you're living could be if it's California maybe you have like 200 grand or so after taxes and then after that maybe 170 after that you know you have your rent payment whatever you could have a really nice place

1:04:25JasonTheWeenie:I didn't pay rent at the time so I was just like I was feeling good

1:04:28Garry Vee:10k a month basically to just spend on whatever you wanted which is more than enough I mean, it's hard to spend that amount of money. Did making that money solve the problems you thought it would solve?

1:04:39JasonTheWeenie:Sometimes more money equals more problems.

1:04:44Garry Vee:In your case?

1:04:45JasonTheWeenie:Yeah, man. Especially with family. When your family sees you making all this money, they ask for money and they're like, yo, can you do this? Can you do that? can you do this for your uncle and your very distant cousin i'm like you know i don't really know them right but i'll do it because you know i'm in a position where i can but you know um

1:05:13Matt D'Avella:and i guess that's a slippery slope man yeah once you start doing that and it becomes an expectation

1:05:20JasonTheWeenie:but now it's like like they just start asking for money and i don't do it because you know it's family, but sometimes I feel like, I don't know. I don't know.

1:05:29Garry Vee:Kevin O 'Leary said it best, I think, which is he will always give someone 50 grand. If they need help with something and they need a lot of money, he'll be like, okay, I'll give you$50 ,000, but you will never be able to ask me for money ever again. Yeah. This is your one chance. And this is it. I promise you, I will only ever say no. Obviously$50 ,000 is a lot. Kevin O 'Leary is in a completely different financial position than all of us, but it's interesting. It's like, yeah, I'll help you out once and that's it, you know, cause you don't want them to become reliant on you, which is clearly just objective fact based off of everybody's experience.

1:06:00Garry Vee:Like people will become reliant on that income.

1:06:03JasonTheWeenie:It's true. True.

1:06:04Garry Vee:The one thing also that we always talk about Graham and I, we discuss like in our car, random car rides, we were going to a, an event or something. When we were going to beast premiere, we were talking and we're like, okay, a lot of content creators are making like a common income is between$50 ,000 a month and$300 ,000 a month. Like a lot of people fall within that window, which is absurd income. Like they're making so much money. The problem is they're very financially illiterate. And so when they make a hundred grand, they think they have a hundred thousand dollars a month to spend. And so they don't consider taxes.

1:06:40Garry Vee:They live in probably California where taxes are very high. Their rent is really high. Their payments are high. Their payroll grows out of control. they start giving money away, they're frivolous with their money. And people assume that if you're making$50 ,000 to$300 ,000 a month, then you're a millionaire or you have$2 million,$3 million, that money comes easily. But money takes a long time to save up post-tax, first of all. And so even if you say, oh yeah, make it$200 ,000 a month, I would venture to say that you have less than$5 million.

1:07:09JasonTheWeenie:Yep.

1:07:11Garry Vee:Like I would say if I'm pocket watching to the max, like even when you god that six hundred thousand dollar month and you've been making money since you were how old like good money um 17 18 so like four years of earning like absurd income it's probably like three million bucks maybe like if you're really smart with it but it could be a million and a half

1:07:31JasonTheWeenie:yeah i mean that month where i made that 65 first 600k the first that was like my first like really really good month um i told you i bought my parents cars and i did not take taxes in consideration at all and um literally that money just disappeared kind of because i just bought three cars couldn't you write it off a video about it i did make a video about it you write it off maybe yeah but

1:07:58Matt D'Avella:then they have to report it as income which is actually better yeah for you to lower and they're right lower without state income taxes i mean i didn't fully understand it at the time you have

1:08:08JasonTheWeenie:an accountant who is telling you what to do or you just did it yeah my account was like you can't write it off unless you put the car under your name and they're like your employees like my

1:08:18Matt D'Avella:parents there might be some rules with this of gifting certain things to family members like i see steve will do it doing this all the time and i'm thinking how on earth is he writing this off is he writing it off if he's not he's getting shafted so hard he is paying so much money to the IRS to be able to give out these gifts.

1:08:40JasonTheWeenie:Yeah.

1:08:41Matt D'Avella:Yeah. That month, that 600K kind of got depleted because I think all the cars were like, it

1:08:48JasonTheWeenie:was probably like 200K in total. And then California -

1:08:52Matt D'Avella:Why not buy used cars? Why new cars? Why not get a three-year-old car top of the line at half the price? That's what I did for my Maybach. I bought

1:09:03JasonTheWeenie:2023 and that because like 2026 instantly depreciate

1:09:10Garry Vee:how much did you pay for your Maybach

1:09:11JasonTheWeenie:I paid like 230 230

1:09:14Garry Vee:what's it worth now um

1:09:16JasonTheWeenie:no idea

1:09:16Matt D'Avella:one it's probably worth about 120 130 Maybachs depreciate a lot yeah no Maybachs ideally you wanted like the old version one like a three year old five year old no no no you want like a 2018 right now I think it's like a 42 S Maybach and you could find those in like the 60s and those are like the cool long wheelbase those you won't lose a lot of money on the new ones the DS class rebadged Maybachs you lose so much money on this yeah no I definitely they look great though yeah they look good and I got a series

1:09:49JasonTheWeenie:out of it Maybach Monday wow yeah so the problem though that we see is that people could be making

1:09:55Garry Vee:like I was saying, absurd income. But unfortunately, social media is pretty fickle. Like it can come and go. It's not like you're building in most situations a real business with a product that you are refining and you have like a demographic that you're able to market to and you can have ad spend and then have a return on your ad spend. In social media, something random can happen and then end your career like this. And so that's why I always think, okay, if there's potentially a very limited window of making this amount of money, it should be one of the main priorities to make sure you're saving up as much post-tax income and building your investment base as possible.

1:10:31Garry Vee:But I feel like most influencers do not see it that way. And so there's kind of just like a limited window to create generational wealth, but no one is capitalizing off that. And five to 10 years, maybe influencers will be replaced by AI. And then, which probably won't happen, but let's just say they do some catastrophic event occurs and, you know, have to work like normal jobs or the you know that's i mean even myself i i i wouldn't say i'm

1:10:58JasonTheWeenie:like fully educated financially like i don't really know like the deep and the depths of that type of stuff and i'd probably learn a lot from y 'all but i do have like a financial team and someone who manages my money and someone who does all that for me so i can provide that to you no

1:11:20Matt D'Avella:No, no, no. So you found that on your own? My manager found that. Here's what I'd consider. I'd strongly consider moving to Miami, moving to Florida, get the zero state income tax. That's what I heard, yeah. Then start saving 20 % of your income and you could reinvest or spend 80, but you take 20 % gross and you stash that away and you just invest it. That's it. And I'd say if you could, and all you have to do is say, hey, I got to do this for five years and after five years, I am set. Set for life. I don't have to do this. If it goes to zero, it doesn't matter. That's it.

1:11:52Garry Vee:If you were to do that after five years, you would be at the point right now, you said$20 ,000 to$30 ,000 a month. You could get that passively. You don't even have to work anymore. And because you're so financially disciplined, you'd be able to have that.

1:12:04Matt D'Avella:Yeah, by the time you're 30, you would have such a stack of cash that would replace what you're able to earn today, working, and you could do that passively.

1:12:14JasonTheWeenie:But the thing was moving to Miami, content here is better and that's why people fly here for content like LA like everybody's out here in LA and the networking opportunities is better out in LA you could still come here and do some

1:12:34Matt D'Avella:content but your base would be in Miami six months in a day that would be your domicile

1:12:40Garry Vee:the thing is do you think you make 13 % more money living here in Los Angeles than you would in Florida.

1:12:46JasonTheWeenie:No, I would definitely make way more money in Florida because that tax, like, well, let's just, right. Yeah.

1:12:51Matt D'Avella:But if you pay 13, can you make 13 % more money being here? Like is, is the opportunity 13 %?

1:12:59JasonTheWeenie:I feel like I do make more money in LA. Yeah. But I would

1:13:06Matt D'Avella:probably profit more living in Miami. So here's what I want you to do. I want you to ask your accountant, am I doing the salt cap workaround for my taxes? Just, just that, just ask that. Assault cap workaround. Yes. Okay. If they say, what's that? Fire them immediately because they're costing you hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. What is assault? What is that? What this means is that you're able to prepay the state income tax through your LLC. And what that does, you're able to use that now as a write-off against your federal income taxes. So if you pay, just for round numbers here, if you pay$500 ,000 to the state of California, if you don't do this, you pay that money and that money's gone.

1:13:51Matt D'Avella:But if you do the SALT cap workaround, you pay it through your S-Corp, then that$500 ,000 acts like a deduction. And in a 37 % tax bracket, that takes it down from$500 ,000 down to$300 ,000. So you save$200 ,000. And if they say, what is this? they have no idea what they're doing fire them get someone else if they say oh yeah we're doing that we'll mention it to you afterwards if they say oh yeah we've already been doing that then that means your 13 california state income tax is not as bad and it's manageable and you could justify it okay so it's one thing to keep in mind i still think miami you could do crazy good content there especially like on the beach with the nightlife there with every it seems like everyone right now is like moving to miami really yeah it depends what groups you're talking about but yeah a lot of people are moving to miami you could be the change you could be the change that brings everybody to miami i don't think people need a lot of convincing yeah just hey come to miami with me for seven months if you hate it we move back and if it sucks after a few months we

1:14:54Garry Vee:move back okay that's it okay but we just think in terms of like being financially disciplined because we see it as such a looming destructive problem for a lot of content creators that sometime down the road, they're going to be like, holy crap, my views are down. AI people are replacing us. Something happened. I'm in a controversy that I didn't expect to be in. They did not save any post-tax money, you know? And then they're going to go become a marketer for some company or some random. I saw on a podcast, you mentioned you're frugal.

1:15:23JasonTheWeenie:Yeah, I was. And what happened?

1:15:29JasonTheWeenie:things change things change like i was like like especially in my startup like when i first started streaming uh i mean my parents were always taught me to stay frugal i would always be like can i get this and they say no and i and that that kind of was implemented into my brain like oh don't spend too much money right but when i moved out here i learned a lot about content creating and how much you need to invest in yourself if you want to grow and create entertaining content and you know that went out the window also um this is a bad quality to have i think i might be easily influenced especially i mean maybe not now but like when i first moved out here definitely way way easier to be influenced um i was gonna get like a little civic out here um but then my homie silky was like yo you're gonna need a civic in a and put a civic in a garage full of supercars and he was joking but i thought about it was like okay shit if i'm gonna buy a car i could have this car for four years might as well buy like a nicer and nice well any civics are nice but you know what i mean by nice like cool what'd you buy i bought an auto r7 which lasted like year and a half so what did you pay for and what do you sell it for i I paid like maybe$85 ,000 for it.

1:17:14JasonTheWeenie:Or maybe, yeah. And what did you sell it for?

1:17:17Matt D'Avella:Like$68 ,500. That's not bad. That's pretty good. For a year and a half. That's not terrible.

1:17:22JasonTheWeenie:I bought a 2021. Smart. So it was already kind of depreciated. Smart.

1:17:29Garry Vee:That didn't affect what you did with the Maybach. No.

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1:18:28JasonTheWeenie:Yeah, I spent a lot of money on them.

1:18:29Garry Vee:Do you regret that purchase?

1:18:32JasonTheWeenie:No, I'm happy with the Maybach because in my brain, it was an investment because I have a series out of it now. Does the Maybach get girls? No, no. No? It's more guys.

1:18:45Matt D'Avella:Really?

1:18:46JasonTheWeenie:Yeah. Which ones? The straight men. It's like going to the gym, all right? When you go to the gym, you think, oh, once I get this body, all the girls are going to come after me. No, it's dudes. they like to see you muscular i don't know and like same with dudes like when i went down to rodeo it's just mostly dudes like oh shit that's a cool car i mean are you frugal on anything in

1:19:11Garry Vee:your life right now something that you just no matter how much money you make or have you will

1:19:14JasonTheWeenie:not spend money on um no that's why i said i feel rich because i kind of just swipe my card and I'm okay.

1:19:24Garry Vee:How much are you spending a month?

1:19:26JasonTheWeenie:December, I spent $300. And how much did you make? I made $450.

1:19:37Garry Vee:Is all of the$300 deductible or is some of it personal?

1:19:40JasonTheWeenie:A lot of it was for content. Almost everything is for content. But that was a very high month for me. Because Because Phasemus was that month. And I'm just putting a lot of money into it. Why don't you drink? I'm allergic. Oh. I have that. I can't break down alcohol. I got that. What does it do? I don't know. I don't know. Like, sometimes I get really bad Asian glow. And my throat clogs up. Like, I just don't like drinking. It's not fun.

1:20:16Matt D'Avella:Yeah. I'm the same way. I don't get the glow, obviously. But for me, it just, it throws, it throws me off. The opportunity cost for me of drinking is so high that I see that one drink is actually being worth thousands of dollars because my productivity the next day is completely blown. And then I think, would I rather have one drink or$1 ,000? And if the answer is yes, then I'll have the drink. But otherwise, it's just, you know, it's become so important for me to be productive that I can't have a drink.

1:20:50JasonTheWeenie:Yeah.

1:20:50Matt D'Avella:It serves nothing. I agree. So, yeah.

1:20:52Garry Vee:What about investing? How much are you investing? Are you investing at all?

1:20:57JasonTheWeenie:I am investing, but honestly, I haven't checked my brokerage in a while. Do you have access to it? Yeah, I do.

1:21:03Matt D'Avella:I could rate it afterwards if you want me to. Oh, yeah, yeah.

1:21:05Garry Vee:Yeah, that would be interesting to see where they're putting your money. And how much are they returning you? Like, what percent per year? Because I'm always, like, skeptical when it comes to financial managers, what do you want to call it. Are they even returning S &P 500? uh i'm gonna be really honest um i don't know i literally i just have a team that does everything

1:21:27JasonTheWeenie:and everything that i do is content and i know it's bad but um i'm just trying to focus on my content but i do have people that manage money but i would love for y 'all to like look at my my brokerage and see if you know things are good you know what would do so well

1:21:45Matt D'Avella:is just a financial management firm that we could create for specifically creators. Where all we do, because I see so many people where it's just like, sometimes they just need a phone call. Like, hey, you shouldn't spend the money on that. Like, what are you doing today? Don't buy that. Or like you come to me with a Maybach and say, hey, listen, let's shop around and save you 50 grand. That's it. Let's put 20 % away before you even see it. Would you do that?

1:22:13Garry Vee:Honestly, yeah. to stream all the time irl streaming going to these events being watched by tens of thousands of people i imagine it has to build your confidence would you say that you're a very confident person

1:22:29JasonTheWeenie:yeah i think streaming did build my confidence it taught me to like not be embarrassed to embarrass myself and not care what other people think and it's definitely helped with my social anxiety. I don't really have that if the camera's on me. I'm more shy if the cameras are off me. Did you have social anxiety? Not like a crazy amount. I was growing up, I was like a class clown kind of vibe. So not really. Definitely boosting my confidence. The camera makes me want to do more. I feel like I have to do more if the cameras are on. And what about girls? LA girls are kind of demonic. What are they like?

1:23:14JasonTheWeenie:What do they do? I went to a LA party one time, and this girl literally like motioned her hand to come to the bathroom. And I didn't even know who she was or anything, but it was like a phase party. So I guess she knew me. I was like, it's just weird. I don't know. So what did you do? I went to the bathroom

1:23:36Garry Vee:I said hey Ron I'll be right back

1:23:40Matt D'Avella:Ron honey It's way right here

1:23:45Garry Vee:That's interesting And let's just say I'm a girl at a bar How would you approach me?

1:23:52JasonTheWeenie:What's going on right now? Okay I'm probably like Hey what's your name? Hi I'm Jack Jack nice to meet you I'm Jason you look beautiful tonight is there anything I could get you?

1:24:07Garry Vee:Hi, yeah, I mean I would love I'll take a vodka Red Bull and then could I get 11 tequila sodas for my friends and could I also get, I see that they have some Wagyu on the menu could I get a few orders of that and then buy could you also just pay everyone else's tab all my friends tabs?

1:24:24JasonTheWeenie:I would leave I would just be like okay, that's a lot, now I'm good

1:24:28Garry Vee:So it's as simple as just going up, hey, what's your name?

1:24:31JasonTheWeenie:Yeah, I think. But I don't really, like my past relationships, that's not how I met them. I just naturally just went with friends first.

1:24:43Matt D'Avella:How do you know who you could trust though? Like if you're going out and dating in LA? I don't know. You don't know. Do you have a good intuition about people?

1:24:53JasonTheWeenie:Yeah, I feel like I do. I feel like I have a good feel for good people, good-hearted people. But I'm always skeptical. Even people that I know for a while, I'm always skeptical. and I feel like you kind of have to think like that especially you know if you make the money that you do and you have the status that you have like you never know someone's intentions so it's always good to be skeptical but it's kind of sad in a way always having one foot in one foot

1:25:27Matt D'Avella:out what are you worried about though if you're like what are you skeptical about like them

1:25:31JasonTheWeenie:stealing ideas or like not just being used for like a stepping stool to meet someone else like that's a real thing in LA. Like, um, for example, Cutie, you know, Cutie Cinderella? Yeah. Cutie told me this story about, I'm not gonna expose who, but like, there's a lot of streams that go to Cutie and try to be friends with Cutie to get to Ludwig, right? And it's, it's messed up, but like, that's a real thing. So you just gotta be careful when you hang out with her.

1:26:04Garry Vee:Did something ever happen to you?

1:26:06JasonTheWeenie:Um, yeah. I've never had a bad experience, no, but I was always taught to be skeptical and my dad always tells me to never fully trust someone.

1:26:18Matt D'Avella:What's a red flag that you look for?

1:26:20JasonTheWeenie:If they ask if I'm friends with blank, that's happened before. Are you friends with Mr. Beef? Are you friends with Kai? Are you friends with?

1:26:28Garry Vee:I don't know. I mean, I can see that perspective and I 100 ,000 % agree that it's better to be more skeptical as opposed to less but even the simple question of like hey are you friends with this person i don't really see that as you know obviously it depends on the context of the situation

1:26:46JasonTheWeenie:if i if they ask that and then they start like oh my god i'm like like fanning out yeah and it's like that's a red flag for me but if it's like even that can happen to you because

1:26:56Garry Vee:if you think of someone that you're like a massive fan of and then you're like wait are you friends with cristiano ronaldo and then they're like yeah like holy cow like i think that you know it's it's

1:27:05JasonTheWeenie:a little hard to like completely line that out i guess that's true i mean personally i don't think i would fan out because i don't know i think unless it's like lebron james does it bother you to feel like you can never 100 trust someone yeah it does but i try not to think about it

1:27:28Matt D'Avella:honestly it is what it is i like to think that most people are trustworthy 90 something percent of them not a bad bone in their body and then the 10 usually maybe they're a little squirrely but you know if that happens it's it is what it is that's my that's my i think in the

1:27:46JasonTheWeenie:entertainment industry especially it's hard to find people that truly want to be friends with you for you.

1:27:55Garry Vee:I agree.

1:27:56JasonTheWeenie:And try to get to know you.

1:27:57Garry Vee:In Los Angeles, especially. And I was living here like in the beginning of the iced coffee hour, beginning of like getting started on YouTube. And I feel like the people that I met that lived here in Los Angeles, completely different than the people that I've met that do content that live elsewhere. And it's like hyper competitive here. A lot of people are being used as stepping stones, a lot of really great people out here. But at the same time, I think that there's a culture to the city that makes it a little more toxic hyper competitive yeah in that way that you're describing i mean yeah i think in la like

1:28:27JasonTheWeenie:there's parties where it's like oh the stereotype is like oh how many followers you got yeah you can come in like that's a real thing which is like kind of dystopian have you ever been denied

1:28:39Garry Vee:because the amount of followers you have no i don't go to parties so but yeah nah what's your biggest insecurity probably my height really how tall are you five eight nah nah i'm not really that insecure i'm pretty secure i don't know are you actually five eight yeah um five seven and a half um round up nothing really pops up to my in my head i'm pretty i'm a pretty secure person

1:29:08JasonTheWeenie:but if you could if you were like my therapist and you start jabbing at me then i'd probably be able to think of something but right now nothing comes to my mind you know what's funny

1:29:17Garry Vee:is we were listening to your podcast like all your appearances we were doing some research on you before we came up with our outline, you know, our talking points and everything. And when you just listen to you, not watch you, you don't sound the way you look. Have you been told that before? Yeah, plenty of times.

1:29:35JasonTheWeenie:It's because I was raised around a lot of Hispanic people and black people. Like at my school growing up, there's no white people, no Asian people. And I had like, and I went to like the quinceañeras and I had the Edgar haircut. Like, yeah, I was, like, growing up, I was not ashamed, but, like, kind of scared to speak my own language even because people would make fun of me.

1:30:03Garry Vee:The only thing that I'm a little bit suspicious of, not for you necessarily, your situation checks out, but, like, every single streamer sounds the same. Like, they have that kind of, like, swagged out, like, Yo, Jack. You know what I mean? Like, like, Aiden Ross, where did he grow up? uh i don't know florida sounds like new jersey to me like but he'll even talk like man you know so i'm just out here like doing my haha yeah like where do people learn how to talk like that i don't know maybe it's just streamer slang it might be streamer slang they could have their own streamers watch streamers so maybe they all influence each other it's just so like i just feel like you could have someone who grew up in like Wisconsin, you know, like a normal suburban neighborhood, then they get into streaming and then all of a sudden they're going to be talking like that.

1:30:52JasonTheWeenie:Have you ever thought about that? I have not.

1:30:55Garry Vee:Go from like country to like all of a sudden.

1:30:58JasonTheWeenie:Yeah. Yeah.

1:30:58Garry Vee:Yeah. I don't know. Maybe it's, maybe it's just me, but it's, yeah, that's interesting. That is interesting to be honest. Okay. So now we have some rapid fire questions. So we're going to ask you a question and you're going to give us the first response that comes to your mind. Got it. Okay. If you could buy stock in three content creators, who would it be?

1:31:18Mahdi, Ream, and Arky.

1:31:21Garry Vee:What's your biggest financial flex? Maybach.

1:31:25JasonTheWeenie:Why not house? House back in Texas.

1:31:27Garry Vee:What's your main bucket list item?

1:31:29JasonTheWeenie:Bigger house. How big? $10 million Texas mansion. Big. That's huge. That's like 20 ,000 square feet. I know.

1:31:38Garry Vee:Why do you want to house that big? I don't know. I just don't. Do you really want it? Yeah. So you think about it often?

1:31:46JasonTheWeenie:I do.

1:31:48Garry Vee:Would it have like a lazy river?

1:31:50JasonTheWeenie:I just want my whole family to be there. Compound. You want a compound. Every single person.

1:31:56Garry Vee:I don't understand why you couldn't do that right now. Like you could finance it. They could all move in. You could call that your home base and then fly out of there to certain shoots. I don't know.

1:32:07JasonTheWeenie:I guess I could. but I don't know how to start. I mean, I do, but it's a lot. I'm lazy.

1:32:15Garry Vee:When is the last time you cried?

1:32:17JasonTheWeenie:I don't remember. I didn't really cry growing up because my dad was always like, yo, I mean, the typical, if you cry, you're not a man. So I don't really cry.

1:32:28Garry Vee:You haven't cried any time in the past couple of years?

1:32:30JasonTheWeenie:No, I have, but I try not to. If I cry, I'll try my best not to, but probably, oh, wait. I remember now is when I went home for Christmas and I saw my dad and we had a conversation about him growing older. I cried.

1:32:52Garry Vee:What about it specifically?

1:32:54JasonTheWeenie:I mean, you know, when you look at your dad and he just looks older and you see him just growing older and it's just like a scary feeling of, you know, him passing, you know, that conversation.

1:33:10Matt D'Avella:I think sometimes, and this keeps me up at night, I'll be like 1.30 in the morning, about to fall asleep. And then I just think about it. I say, wait a second. You know, if you look at the average lifespan, my life is almost half over,

1:33:24JasonTheWeenie:which is crazy.

1:33:26Matt D'Avella:I'm about to be 36 and for men i think it's like in the mid 70s and so like 36 times two you know 72 and like holy shit that's almost half over that's why like hopefully i'm hoping to live through like 90s i want to live to like 103 ideally uh but still when you when you put that into perspective it's like oh shit things go fast and then i see other things that like when i was born in 1990 uh 1955 1955 is the same thing as like 35 years from now, which is 1955. I start doing these calculations in my head. I'm like, oh my gosh.

1:34:07Garry Vee:I feel like what the scariest thought is, is like, okay, I live in a different state than my parents. You do as well. You do as well. And you think, okay, when do I see my parents? Christmas, some other events. Maybe I'll go back and visit them a couple of other times per year. And so maybe I'm seeing them like six times per year, right? Once every two months, if I'm lucky. and then you map out the amount of life that they likely have based on averages, because whether you like it or not, everyone's a part of a statistic, then how many times do you have left statistically to see them? It could be like 40, depending on how old your parents are and average lifespans and whatnot.

1:34:43Garry Vee:But that's a scary thought for me. It's like, how much more time do I really have? Who was the biggest fashion influence on you?

1:34:50JasonTheWeenie:Pharrell.

1:34:51Garry Vee:Yeah, I could see that. That's cool.

1:34:54JasonTheWeenie:what is the secret to a happy life being content with what you have as you say that wanting the 10 million dollar compound house kind of hypocritical huh i mean i just learned like and i still struggle this with this um i think human nature you always want more you always want more and if I just like step back and like think about and I have my lifestyle and and what I have and I'm just like damn I'm blessed and I'm happy to have what I have and to be able to do what I do every single day and live my life doing that and be financially free and make money doing literally hanging out with my friends in the house streaming like that makes me happy but sometimes I get incomplacent and I want more and that makes me kind of sad

1:35:55Garry Vee:it's gratitude you know counting your blessings it's good on the topic of being happy with where you're at would you quit streaming for 20 million dollars that's a lot of money but

1:36:08Matt D'Avella:No. After tax. Just 20 mil in your bank account, no taxes. It's yours. But you quit today. But what, could I do YouTube? Nope.

1:36:20JasonTheWeenie:You got to be off social media. No social media? Nothing. No, I wouldn't. Because that's my passion. I don't know. I think I would just be sad. I would just be sad. I don't know what I would do with the money. Travel the world, but then what? I'm 21. Have a family.

1:36:37Matt D'Avella:Have kids. settle down get a nice little place in florida on the beach take up golf tennis for the rest of my

1:36:47JasonTheWeenie:days i feel like i just get bored and sad and depressed walk the beach get into making coffee

1:36:54Matt D'Avella:how many times could i do that you could you could start a reef aquarium graham would you quit all social media for 20 million no not for 20 there would be a price though there would be a price? No, because you see the trajectory. It's like $20 million at the current trajectory of that. I would say if you gave me$50, I would do it. What about you? $100.

1:37:18Garry Vee:I would probably quit for$20 million post-tax. Would you do one of those old, cringy TikToks for the camera? No.

1:37:30JasonTheWeenie:I can't. I can't go back. How much would that cost? That would cost a pretty penny. I can't go back. I can't. I can't.

1:37:37Matt D'Avella:Give us a teaser. Like, just a little something.

1:37:41Garry Vee:Oh, my God. All right, that's going to be in the intro. Last thing we have for you is a tier list. All right, Jason, let's see what your streamer tier list looks like. All right.

1:37:51JasonTheWeenie:All right. If I've never watched one of these streamers, can I just put?

1:37:58Garry Vee:Put them wherever you want. Okay.

1:37:59JasonTheWeenie:Yeah. All right, here we go. So, who should I? Should I just start from top to bottom?

1:38:05Garry Vee:Yeah.

1:38:06JasonTheWeenie:All right, Aiden? I think Aiden would be Mountain Rushmore. Sure. He made it mainstream for sure.

1:38:18JasonTheWeenie:Is it like all time?

1:38:20Garry Vee:Yeah. Just like, just like where would you put these people on the tier list? There's no like strict criteria. It's whatever criteria you want to assign.

1:38:28JasonTheWeenie:I would put Aiden probably, I'd put Aiden A-S. Yeah. Because he was the first person to bring up, a rapper on stream which made streaming a lot more mainstream wasn't the first person to make streaming mainstream but first person to bring a rapper on stream which opened doors for sure agent I'm gonna put agent at he's been doing this for a long time I'm gonna put him at A because his consistency and his grind and him not being burnt out and um yeah he's been always consistent is this on Andrea Botez or which process sisters is Andrea Botez yes right I'm gonna put her at a C I'm not really a chess streamer Asmongold I'm gonna put Asmong at um I don't watch him at all so I'm gonna put him at a Sina I'm gonna put her at a A She went back to back Sapphire Wars Best female streamer Extra Emily I'm gonna put her at a B Put her at a B Forsen I don't know too much about Forsen I know he does Minecraft speedruns So I'm I'm gonna put him at a B FouseyTube I don't really watch Fousey he doesn't really stream anymore but he has some funny funny clips put him out of C um

1:40:18JasonTheWeenie:Fousey I don't really watch Fousey but she's she's a staple in the streaming community Hassan put Hassan in like a eh eh Jack Doherty fuck no oh no poor Jack Johnny Salami Salami I'm gonna matter um would you put him above or below Jack Doherty jeez that's like Hitler versus Stalin which one is worse probably probably Probably Johnny Somali. I don't know, bro. I don't know. Kai, I'm putting it at an S for obvious reasons. Changed the streaming game. Going crazy. Killed it. He literally killed it. Lacey, I'm putting Lacey at... I'm putting Lacey at... I.B. That's my boy. Ludwig, I'm putting it at...

1:41:29JasonTheWeenie:I'm putting him at a B. Marlon. Is that a real picture? That's a real picture. I'm putting Marlon at a B. Actually, I'm putting him at a B.

1:41:50Because he's been doing this for literally, I think, like one year. and he's going absolutely crazy.

1:42:00JasonTheWeenie:Neon. Put Neon at like a C. Ninja. S tier. I would argue that Ninja made Shreeming. It was the first year to make it mainstream with like Drake, Travis Scott. Like crazy. Pokemon. Put Pokemon like a B. Soda, I'll put Soda like an A. I know he's one of the streaming goats. Didn't watch him too much though, but I'll give him his respect. Speed S, internationally known, insane streamer. A lot of inspiration from Speed. Squeaks, I don't really watch Squeaks. I've never watched Squeaks, but I've only heard good things about him so put him at a D Stable Ronaldo put my boy at an A hilarious dude Tim the Tapman put Tim at I watched a lot of Tim I can't lie put him at an A Togi I didn't even know Togi stream I thought he was a YouTuber I really don't I thought he does I thought he streamed a few times

1:43:28Garry Vee:Yeah

1:43:29JasonTheWeenie:Yeah I don't really watch his streams So I'm gonna put him on a D Vitaly Damn He's out now He's out now Yeah Um I don't know him I don't really watch his streams Or if he streams Put him Right next to Asmogold Uh Is this Will Neff? Yep Will Neff Put him at a Put him at a C

1:44:03JasonTheWeenie:World of T-shirts, right? Yeah Joshua Block I put him I don't really watch his streams I put him next to Asmongold Jeez, Josh next to Asmongold

1:44:16Garry Vee:He's the GOAT streamer in my opinion Is he? Yeah, I think he's Rushmore Asmongold? No Josh? Yeah

1:44:22JasonTheWeenie:I don't know, I saw him one time on stream and like...

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1:45:24JasonTheWeenie:enrollment required terms apply he looked a little bit out of it i think uh that's his brand

1:45:32Garry Vee:yeah he he leans into the character a lot he's actually pretty normal i think oh he's faking it

1:45:37JasonTheWeenie:no i'm kidding i don't think that's it's all in fact xuc i put out a s okay i watch a lot of xuc on my come up and growing. I think he's like pure desktop, great desktop streamer. Paved the way for new streamers as well. Tfue. Put out an A. Tyler 1. I'm not gonna lie. I'm putting Tyler at an S. Wow. This dude I watched like the most growing up on Twitch. him and Greek God X hilarious dude I think he's fucking hilarious Austin Show um Clav I'll say this he's very clippable and he knows how to get clipped but he he's saying some outrageous shit so I'll put him I'll put him for my put him at C Sneak O

1:46:51JasonTheWeenie:put him put him in D me I'll put myself at B Silky I love Silky I think he's hilarious I'll put him at B as well Max I'll put him at A this is me

1:47:09Garry Vee:cool interesting so you had Aiden Ross okay Aiden Ross Kai Ninja Speed XQC and Tyler as S tier in my opinion

1:47:23Matt D'Avella:well thank you for coming on really appreciate it we'll link to all of your info down below in the description thank you so much for having me I'm looking forward to watching your island straight I'm gonna watch it I'm gonna watch it I'll tune it into a little bit and I'm looking forward to it thank you you know what you should also have someone for a day hunt you down and see if you could escape them. And if you escape them for the day, then you get a cheeseburger. Well, the thing is, I don't want to, like, script it, because then what if people are like, oh. It's not scripted, but, like, you actually they actually will hunt you down.

1:47:55Matt D'Avella:So what happens if they hunt me down?

1:47:56JasonTheWeenie:I just die?

1:47:57Matt D'Avella:No, no. If they hunt you down, then you get penalized. You have to spend, like, an extra, like, five hours on the island or something like that. Like, to do something like that, because that'll keep it interesting for the day. If, like, a Navy SEAL tries to hunt you down and you have to, like, hide out. I think that'd be interesting. You like climb trees or like bury yourself in the sand. I do agree.

1:48:17Garry Vee:If there was like kind of somewhat of a schedule day one, this is happening. Day two, this is happening. Yeah, yeah. I mean, he knows what's up. He knows what's up. Jason, thank you so much for coming on the podcast. That was a blast. Thank you. I love talking to streamers because it's like completely new information for us. It's not what we do. So it's interesting. Appreciate you coming on.

1:48:34Matt D'Avella:Also, big thank you to White Glove Estates here in West Hollywood for allowing us to film in their showroom. So if you're building any sort of high-end properties, I highly recommend at least consult with them because their work is phenomenal. They help with remodels, design, architecture, all this sort of stuff. Sound engineering, too. So if you're interested in that, check them out. They have a whole showroom in West Hollywood. Look how beautiful this is. It's gorgeous. It's absolutely beautiful. It's gorgeous. So I'll link to their info down below in the description as well. Thank you so much.

1:49:04Matt D'Avella:Until next time.

1:49:04Garry Vee:Thank you guys so much.

1:49:05Matt D'Avella:Thank you.

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