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The Jasmine Star Show: Episode Summary
Episode Title
How to Get Ahead of 99% of Business Owners
Episode Overview In this episode of The Jasmine Star Show, host Jasmine Star discusses how to stand out and progress in the business world without resorting to aggressive tactics or relentless hustling. She shares her personal experiences and insights on what truly contributes to success in entrepreneurship.
Key Concepts and Takeaways
Common Business Advice
- Jasmine critiques traditional business advice, citing phrases like:
- “ABC: Always be closing.”
- “Eat your competition for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.”
- “Never take no for an answer.”
She argues that while this advice may not be inherently wrong, it often leads to aggressive business practices that don't align with a more sustainable and fulfilling approach.
Jasmine's Four Strategies to Get Ahead
- Don’t Expect a 10-Point Checklist
- Real growth requires adaptability and the understanding that the skills that got you to one level may not suffice for the next. Continuous learning and exposure to new ideas are essential.
- Learn from Others in Different Fields
- Engaging with diverse industries can provide fresh insights and innovative solutions. Jasmine emphasizes the value of cross-industry learning to break conventional thinking patterns.
- Don’t Discredit Others
- Everyone has something to teach. Jasmine reflects on her experiences meeting various entrepreneurs who, despite their different business paths, offered valuable lessons.
- Don’t Discredit Yourself
- Imposter syndrome affects entrepreneurs at all levels. Jasmine encourages listeners to recognize their worth and the value they can contribute, regardless of their current status in the business hierarchy.
Key Moments from the Episode
- Personal Growth Journey: Jasmine shares her transition from a photographer to a business strategist, highlighting her journey through various revenue streams and experiences.
- Mastermind Experiences: She describes how joining masterminds has significantly influenced her growth by allowing her to observe and learn from successful individuals.
- Problem-Solving Techniques: Jasmine discusses how successful entrepreneurs approach problem-solving by asking insightful questions and incorporating feedback.
Closing Remarks
- Jasmine emphasizes that success does not have a one-size-fits-all path and that there are various ways to achieve it based on individual values and styles.
- She invites listeners to consider their unique journeys and encourages them to celebrate their accomplishments, big or small.
Call to Action Listeners are encouraged to apply these principles in their own businesses and to join Jasmine’s upcoming mastermind program aimed at helping seven-figure entrepreneurs scale to eight figures.
For more insights and resources, visit
[Jasmine Star Show Episode 468](http://jasminestar.com/podcast/episode468)
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Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Ten years ago, I made the decision to build my personal brand that was elevated, yet approachable, and reflected who I was, not just what I did. I created my website with ShowIt because it's true drag and drop freedom so you can easily build and update your site. Plus, their real human support team, game changer. Want to try it for yourself? Head to jasminestar.com forward slash show it for a 14-day free trial and first month free when you subscribe. So he stood on a stage in front of everybody, booked in all of us and said, this is how you get ahead of 99 % of business owners. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Jasmine Star Show, where we are going to be talking about how to get in front of, ahead of, 99 % of business owners.
0:48How's that for a hook? I've been trying to work on my YouTube hooks. Like, how are we doing? You know, people are like, you got a long way to grow, girl. That's right. But you want to know what? I'm better today than I was yesterday. On that note, let's go back to this thing that I heard. Now, earlier in my career, I was making a transition away from doing branding and marketing consulting for specifically photography related businesses. Started my career as a photographer. Then I started creating content for other businesses that were related to the photography industry. And then once I decided, hey, I'm going to go back and I'm just going to focus on my business.
1:22These businesses said, can you come in and teach our teams what you had been doing? So then I repeated back what I thought I heard, are you saying you want me to tell your team what to do? And then I come back online for a meeting just to check in to see if they're doing what we said we're going to do. To which they replied, yeah. And I was like, I'll take that job. Let's take that job. And so that had been the form of three revenue streams in my business at the time. Taking photography clients. I had an online store for photography educational resources for photographers. and that I was consulting photography-related businesses on how they might be able to create their marketing and branding to attract photographers.
2:04I started expanding who I was speaking to, specifically to business owners and small business owners, people outside of the creative space. Now, I was approached by an event to go and speak at their event. Now, this is me just getting outside of my industry. This would not happen today, but because I didn't have a lot of experience in what events look like for digital marketing, I just assumed they would look a lot like the events that we had in the photography world. Boy, was I wrong. I was asked to speak at an event and they wanted me to go in and talk about social media marketing. What I didn't know was that this event would be very much structured to be like that quintessential.
2:45It has bad blood. A lot of what people would say, snake oil salesmen in the digital world, like buy now and you'll get everything you want. I had no idea that this world existed. So my husband and I, we go to the event. I'm there with the videographer, and they asked me to get to the event an hour early just to ensure that I was miked and everything was set to go. So I walk into this hotel ballroom, and there's no windows. It is freezing cold. They have, you know, those like two-foot black stages. It's too high. And the length of it is probably 12 feet, and the width of it is probably six feet.
3:18So it's like just a tiny little stand. Like I could essentially build this black stage with tools and resources from Home Depot. Yes, that was the stage for this event. They had a bunch of chairs that were there and the event was attracting a lot of business hopefuls. Like, we're going to teach you how to build a business. And so by and large, the audience, they're dressed casually. It was a Saturday. Like, this is like the jeans and t-shirt kind of folks. And everybody who was speaking at the event or hosting the event, they were dressed in three pieces. I'm talking about they even had the handkerchief in the pocket now i grew up where my dad would buy like three suits which includes a tie and a shirt and a handkerchief like we would go to east la and then there in like the fashion district you would be able to like bundle these suits and so he would get like three suits for like 99 but the handkerchiefs in the pocket it came stuck in the pocket like my dad would say oh my god this looks so tacky and he would cut it out well at this event These brothers were wearing three-piece suits with a real hanky in the pocket.
4:19It was such a mismatch, right? Because it's not like we were at this hotel, like the Ritz-Carlton or the Four Seasons. We were at like a right-off-the-freeway hotel in a ballroom where people were dressed casually. They had like a pop-up table in the front for registration with the typical lanyards. And they were on the stage. And I'll never forget. So I get there about an hour early and they have programming, like two speakers before me, each doing 30 minutes. And whenever they would announce the speaker, there would be like the person on AV and then they would, you know, like play the most quintessential conference song like, you know, Jump Around by House of Pain or Eight Mile by Eminem.
5:00And so the speakers would be walking down the aisle. Now, the room is long. And so you're walking down the middle of the aisle, like almost like it's like Price is Right or like a soul train. And so, you know, the jeans and t-shirt folks are sitting at the ends and then the guest speakers are going up and like they're pumping like, well, like they're doing like that. Well, I'll open the club type thing in their shiny shoes and like big heads. And then they jump up on that two foot stage and then they give the speech. And at the end of each 30 minute session, they would say, oh, well, there's a group of us at the back of the room where you'll find us with clipboards.
5:41have your credit card ready. We're going to, and I was like looking around and I'm like, what is going on? What did I just agree to speak at? Now, mind you, I did not get paid to speak at this event. At that time in my career, I'm moving away from events in an industry where I had established my name and brand into a space and industry where nobody knew who I was. So what do you got to do? You got to start at the bottom. So I agreed to speak at this event. I wasn't getting paid and all of a sudden I see so much sales pressure. Let me tell you, anytime you're in a very cold room, they intentionally keep it cold so that you don't fall asleep and you're actually not thinking all that smartly.
6:20And they'll say, go to the back of the room, drop your credit cards. And so there's like a crew of people in the back where they have clipboards, they run your credit cards because they want to sell you higher and higher and higher. They were making consecutively higher pitches the hour that I was there. And I'm thinking, oh girl, what are you going to do right now? Like, what are you going to do right now? So then they announced Chaz and Star is going to speak about social media marketing. And I look at that center aisle and I was like, know who you is. My dad always said, know who you is and know who you isn't.
6:53And I was like, there's no way I am walking down that middle aisle and high-fiving people. There's just no way. so like the event producer was i know you look at people are gonna hear this and they're gonna be like who does she think she is like if you're gonna hear this and if you want to have an event you probably are not gonna want to book me to which i say okay because i know what i cannot do i cannot walk down a middle of an aisle where i'm in a room where i'm very unfamiliar i'm not even sure of what is being sold and i'm not even sure of the sales mechanisms that are happening so i was like listen nobody's gonna protect your brand you better walk in integrity to what you can control and so the producer put me in the back of the room and they're like we're gonna keep your song, which by and large, you know, I'll give you one guess for what song you think they played for the only female speaker at this event.
7:36What do we think it is? Could be Girl on Fire by Alicia Keys, or it could be Roar by Katy Perry. It seems like when you go to a digital marketing event and there's a female speaker, Girl on Fire. Roar. It's Roar. No other songs they're going to do. Those are the girl mantras. Ladies and gentlemen, for everybody who's working in NNV, please ask me for a list of songs that are not gender specific and maybe just maybe you know can pull from like different areas of genres okay so instead of sitting in the back of the room waiting in the back of the room for me to be called up and high five and do like a little two-bit jingle or whatever till they keep toe tapping down the aisle like thing i was placed in the back then i went all the way to the right side i walked all the way down so this is like the warm-up like i'm you know Jasmine Starr is located, blah, blah, blah, blah.
8:28And I'm down the right side of the aisle, walking to about the second row. They're like, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome from the back of the room, Jasmine Starr. I come up from row two on the right side, get up on the stage, say, thank you so much for having me. And I jump right into it. And again, what am I doing? I'm trying to do things my own way because what the gentleman on this stage had said, given a presentation before was that he stood on a stage and he said this, this like capital T-H-I-S is how you get ahead of 99 % of business owners. And so his suggestions, how to get ahead.
9:07Here's a couple of examples. Decimate your competition. He literally said, when you wake up in the morning, you want to think about taking them down. You want to put all your energy into showing them who's the new kid on the block you want them to stop ever doubting what it is you can do so how do you do that you decimate your competition you wake up and you eat your competition for a breakfast lunch and dinner and I'm sitting there and I'm like okay so everything I've done and like how I approach things is like I focus on the quality of the experience that I am providing for a consumer I am deeply dedicated to creating a customer success journey and so to do that I'm empowering my customer success team to always try their best to make it right, to do right by our customer, our user, or our client.
9:54And the way that I've gotten ahead has been through transformation. Now, if you notice the difference, he was saying decimate your competition, which in my mind puts all of the time and energy on other people, other people and things I cannot control. And so in my mind, how I was able at that point to get ahead of competition has simply been, And, well, there are things that I can control. I can control the experience that a customer has. I can control what the customer journey looks like. And I can focus on the transformation. Another thing he had said was an acronym. You know, you've got to be ABC.
10:28Always be closing. Always be closing. Every time. He's like, I want you to be, when you're in the grocery market, think of yourself like, how am I going to close this? When you're talking, you know, you're taking your kids to soccer. When you're at the PT, I want you to be ABC. ABC, always be closing. Who can I be closing? And I thought to myself, ABC always be closing. How many friends you got, bro? Like who wants to be around the guy who's got another opportunity to make money in less time. Double your income. Let's go, bro. I thought, can I make another acronym? So I decided I'm going to take what he's saying on how to get ahead.
11:00I'm going to make my own. Instead of ABC always be closing, I decided ABC always be creating. Creating value. Creating time. Creating wins for other people. Maybe you don't like always be creating. How about ABC? Always be consistent. Show up. Control what you can show up. You don't like creating or consistent. How about ABC? Always be converting. Into what? Conversation. Into what? A conversion. ABC? Yeah, we could talk about closing. Sure. But when you talk about the difference between ABC always be closing versus ABC always be converting, when somebody converts, they're making up their own mind.
11:40They get to say what they want instead of closing is I'm going to answer every single question. Oh, and I have a script. So whatever 87 excuses you have for me, I'm going to know what to say right over. I'm going to out talk you so that you feel like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay. Every fear has been demolished. Yeah. But by what? By force talking? By brute force? Listen, I am not saying that that doesn't work. In fact, I want to be very clear here. His approach worked because it was a bunch of people who got up, walked to the back of the room and handed over their credit cards to the mafia with the clipboards.
12:11It works. It works. I just don't think it works for me. And so when we talk about how to get ahead of 99 % of your competition, how about we decide that there's different ways that work for every single person and there's not just one single way. And so I'm sure you can tell I didn't follow his advice. And then against his advice, I decided to create my own path. And then I ABC remained consistent and I, ABC, remained creating. And on the back of the content I was creating and teaching other people, it made me realize that there's not a right or wrong, but for the sake of this conversation, how about we talk about my journey of getting ahead of 99 % of business owners who are at the same point I was.
12:54Now, to be clear, I'm not ahead of 99 % of business owners, period, not at all. But, you know, if I'm ahead of 99 % of the people who are swimming in a pool at any given time. I'm ahead of the people who are in the pool. I'm not ahead of the 99 % of all swimmers, which includes professional athletes, right? So in the terms of this conversation, how do you get ahead of 99 % of the people who all things considered are roughly around where you are in your business? So this episode, I'm just gonna be sharing about three or four things that helped me get ahead. And again, just my experience, just my advice.
13:28If you want to do the complete opposite, I totally applaud you. All I want you to do is win. And if winning requires you to do something that is totally opposite of what I'm saying, I'll clap you up. I absolutely love that. So here are the four things that I did to get ahead of 99 % of business owners at the same place I was 12 years ago. Number one, don't expect a 10-point checklist. So what do I mean by this? Is as I consecutively continued to expand, as I up-leveled and as I scaled, I was understanding that the version of who I was could no longer be the version that I was in that moment. Essentially, what got me to that point will require something else of me to get to the next level.
14:11And so early in my career, I started realizing that I didn't know what I didn't know. And so I wanted to be around other people who thought bigger and did different things. And so my first exposure into this world of personal development and business development, and specifically digital marketing, was by joining a mastermind. Now, to be clear, I am not saying that the mastermind is the only way of doing it. I am just saying that that is what happened for me. And I literally found a mastermind by reading a blog post that I had come after a Google search. I don't remember the exact Google search, like the exact phrasing of it, but it was late one night and I was asking, how can I grow my business online?
14:48And so I went through a litany of articles. I ended up on somebody's blog. I don't remember whose blog it was, but they did an interview of a gentleman who was talking about scaling with a group of people. And I was like, oh, that's what I need. And the word that he used was mastermind. I had never heard of that word before. And so I joined a live class and I watched him pitch around this thing called a mastermind. So I signed up for it. I had no idea what I was doing. And so whenever I go into a new situation, I follow the same thing I've always done since childhood. Now I'm sure there's probably some like licensed therapist who's going to hear what I'm going to have to say and say, we need to dissect this.
15:24We're going to get Freudian or Jungian. We're going to go back to my childhood to unravel it. Listen, it's just who I am. I have done this in childhood. Whenever I'm in a new situation, I immediately clam up and all I do is watch. I have a twin sister and when we were in college, we decided to backpack through Europe for four or five weeks. And my sister is the complete counter-opposite. Like the yin and yang, the sun and the moon, like a positive and a negative force. That is my sister. We look very much alike, but we are so different. Whereas in social situations or new things, my sister jumps in like she was freaking born there.
16:00So it's just like she doesn't speak French and she doesn't speak Italian. But whenever we would be backpacking, it would be, And she would act and she would say things like with just enough accent for somebody to think like, Maybe she's been studying French. So they would, you know, extend beyond the preliminary, like, Bonjour. Bianca would walk in. I can't even pretend to say the things that she would say because she would just memorize a few catchphrases or a few salutations in French and then people would think that maybe she knew French and they would just go blah, blah, blah, blah, and speak back to her.
16:30And she's just like, Paulie, vous en voulez? Like, I'm like, what are you doing? Like, we would be in these crowded train stations and my sister would just jump in. And if you've never been to, like, Italian train stations, now we're not talking about the major cities like Rome and Florence. We're talking about, like, train stations that put you out in the middle of, like, like, towns that you can't even pronounce. And, like, people were clamoring over each other, trying to get tickets on a train. And immediately what I did is, like, threw my backpack on the floor, and I just looked and I watched.
16:56I'm like, okay, who's going in what line and why? And I'm trying to count who's going where. Where are they going after this? Where do they get the ticket? I'm trying to map the whole thing out. My sister, big backpack and all, just jumps in. Excuse, excuse.
17:13Pagetaliano. Like, I'm like, what are you doing? she jumps right in those experiences have stayed with me from childhood into adulthood so I get into this mastermind and I am not saying you know I am literally I don't speak any language I'm just going to shut myself and I'm just going to be real quiet what I was really doing what I've always done is simply analyze I mean the analyzing what's going on in the situation and so I realized that in every situation, there's always a pattern. You might have to wait longer before the pattern reveals itself, but there's always a pattern. I was in the very first mastermind meeting in person in San Francisco and all of these people seem to be following a flow or speaking the same language or this is not their first rodeo.
17:58And all I'm thinking is just like, follow the flow, follow the pattern. It's going to reveal itself. Just analyze, analyze, analyze. And so what you want to do is repeat the pattern with other people until you understand the pattern and then you could break the pattern. I am not saying this is right. I am just saying that this is what I've always done. Like if I understood where to buy the ticket, then I should just repeat buying the ticket, standing in line and doing it that way until I understood ways that I can get around it. In the mastermind, my first reaction is clam up, follow the pattern, analyze.
18:29Go with the pattern until you can break the pattern. So adhere to the system without as many changes as possible until you feel confident to do that. So when I was going into the mastermind, how I was able to really maximize my opportunity, how was I using this, this idea of like clamming up, this idea of watching, how could I use it to my advantage? Well, this was what I started noticing. In the mastermind, somebody asks a question or they share a challenge. This was generally the nature of it. And then people asked clarifying questions. Like, do I understand this the right way? Have you considered this?
19:07I just want to make sure that all of these things have been done before we start ideating or offering feedback. And once that happens, then people offer insights. They're not saying, hey, this is what you should do. They'll say, have you considered this? What about making it look this way? Or this happened to me once, and while it's a little bit different, I think in this situation you could draw a parallel. Now, the person who asks the question, right, so I have a challenge where I'm asking a question. They first clarify the questions. Then people ask, have you considered this? Have you done this?
19:35and they're just asking what they've done up until that point. It's at that point that the person who asked the question shuts their mouth and then that's it. Nothing else is needed. This person is not in front of the mastermind asking, okay, but if I do that, what are the 10 steps to do that? In a mastermind, the pattern I saw was present a problem, an opportunity, or a challenge. Get clarity around it. People simply ask questions or give ideas and then the person who asks their question shuts their mouth and gets to work. They go and they create a 10-point checklist for themselves. They do not expect it from the mastermind host or anybody else in the mastermind.
20:21All they got was a bunch of questions and new perspectives of the same scenario. Then they go and create an action item for themselves. So I started learning how winners behave. You guys, this is like 2016. And for the first time in my career, I'm actually understanding how do winners behave? What do they do? Well, they ask a question. They get feedback. They create their plan. They do the work. They amend the plan. That's how winners win. That's it. And I once heard a conversation where they said, if somebody asks a question, you should be able if you're good to answer it in less than 30 seconds and the answer in and of itself should be so simple that 99 % of people won't do it so if you want to know how winners win and how they behave they ask a question they get feedback they create the plan they do the work they amend the plan because like I don't want to spill the tea but the plan that you start with hardly ever works the first time.
21:26You're always amending the plan. So winners don't need answers. Winners need insights. When I understood that I could win simply by getting insights and making a plan, I started getting ahead of my competition. Second way that I was really understanding how to leverage the things that I was learning, how to get ahead of the competition, was learning from others and other fields, other industries. I'm telling you, this is like the best kept secret that was one, probably never a secret. I just never knew about it. And now I want to share it with everybody. So early in my career, I went to an event called Alt Summit.
22:07I can't even explain why or what called me there. I just thought, you know, I need to be in Salt Lake City in February in the dead of cold where everything in this city is white because it's covered in slope. and it's like negative degrees not like negative degrees it is negative degrees why i needed to go at that time i don't know all i just knew was i need to go out and meet different people now this event attracted a wide array of people though this was very much early in like my blogging days and so i was going there and a large part of the attendees were fashion bloggers they were bloggers who were into sewing or not print making but like when they come up with their designs like you cope with the design and then you follow the design.
22:49I don't know the exact words of it. So you can just see like I'm at this event and a lot of the content and a lot of the networking and mixers and things that they're talking about doesn't have to do with my business. But I just wanted to see the way that different industries and different businesses are run because I could get that information and start distilling it. How could I use it in my industry or how could I do what they're doing in my own way? It was simply seeing a different industry in the way it's done to break your frame of what's currently happening and what's currently possible for yours.
23:15A few years later went to an event called woo and wellness now i wouldn't necessarily consider myself to be like very woo i'm probably moderately woo i'm very much into wellness and so i went to this one day event and we did things that were so far out of my comfort zone okay like we had a two-hour silent tea ceremony in the middle of a vegetable garden and we're sitting on the dirt it's completely silent and they have like a like this big like flower circle they get this like mandala and we have this color back there's a design of these flowers and you sit there and they do a very traditional tea ceremony and everybody's silent and you're just sitting in this vegetable garden and you drink nine cups of tea i was like okay i've never done this being alone with my thoughts for two hours was crazy and powerful and life-changing we did sound baths have you ever done a sound bath like you basically take a nap and like the music vibrates at a certain frequency that's supposed to be when you're at your calmest state and they had laid out these like knit blankets like I don't know in Spanish you call them a serapé I don't know I don't know what else to call it in English I literally I'm just like this is a knit blanket anyway they had these serapés laid on the floor and then they had like these bean like pillows and then you just lay there and like they have these instruments and they just play and there's like gongs and you're like this is so weird and then you like kind of like meditate and fall asleep it was crazy we also had a session you guys all this is in one day if you can believe it or not.
24:43We also had this section where we're standing in like, not like a dirt field, but like kind of, there's not a lot of plants, right? So it's trees, but it's mostly just dirt. And so then they have like this DJ who sets up this like pop-up speaker area. And so then we have this guy who comes in from LA and he has these big flowy, almost like hippie MC Hammer pants. And he has these dreads and he takes off his shirt. He's built like, like his six pack has a 12 pack, you know and so then he's just like we're gonna fall into our bodies he's like we're gonna let every preconceived notion go we're just gonna be ourselves we're gonna find ourselves in movement and the dj is playing music and i can tell you the guy is like the rusting his hips and moving his shoulders and like arms above you and they're swinging and you're just swaying side to side and then you're like concave and then you're convex and your hips are rolling from side to side and you feel stupid you feel dumb and then all of a sudden you get to a point where you're doing it 15 or 20 minutes where you're like, well, doing it halfway, you're missing the whole point.
25:44And so then I just decided, listen, everybody else here is doing the same stupid thing. And so I'm just going to concave and convex and I'm going to be moving. And the minute I stopped caring, I just started having fun. I let my body do whatever my body wanted to do. I went to an event of mixed business owners, eight and nine figure business owners. And the goal was to mix and people who are outside of what it is you do. And I happened to be sitting at a table with a gentleman who ran a CRM, but specifically for dentists. And he had explained to me what this whole idea was, was that sure, there's a lot of CRMs out there.
26:25I mean, you have like HubSpot or you have Dubsado or you have a lot of HoneyBook. There's a bunch of CRMs. And what he was saying was that dentist wanted a CRM that was very specific to their industry. And essentially, the dentist just wanted to be a dentist. And what the dentist really wanted was a business in a box, just a solution that would get from like front end to back end and fulfillment and let the dentist be the dentist. It was essentially a done for you system. And my eyes were opened to the power of creating a service that's not unique, but that's highly specific to an industry. So what did I learned.
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27:02I learned that winners can quickly connect disparate dots to find a solution in their own business. What I saw with these bloggers, what I saw with these pattern makers, what I saw with people who were building birdhouses, what I saw by people who were creating a sound bath, hosting women wellness events that's traditionally an underserved market, and they had hundreds of people there paying hundreds of dollars for a one-day event to sit in a vegetable garden. Like there's just so many opportunities to see a dentist have a CRM with so many other huge, amazing, powerful CRMs out there that you actually don't need to be the best in the world.
27:44You actually just need to be best for a very specific group of people. So winners are able to connect disparate dots and create a solution. The third thing that I learned when it comes to getting ahead of my competition was not to discredit others. And I think this is like a very, very important one. So I remember how I mentioned Alt Summit. There was one night I didn't want to go out. I'm very much an introvert, but I said, I'm committed to being at Alt Summit for three days. I'm going to be expanding. I'm going to be going to dinners. So we went to dinner. And then at the end, like after dinner, there was like a little bit of networking and mixers.
28:20So I went to that And I found myself just like up against a wall. I didn't go with anybody. I knew I was by myself. And then there was another person sitting next to me who was holding up the wall alongside me. And as we got into conversations, I figured out that he creates custom checkers and custom chess boards. And I was like, oh, that's interesting. And what he didn't say, I'm going to later on share, was when I was talking to him, the thing I always tell myself at any event I go to, I'm here to learn one thing. I'm here to learn one thing. And I didn't know that the one thing that I was supposed to learn that year from alt was going to be from a guy who was standing next to me on a wall, not really participating.
29:07And as I asked him questions about his business, he had an Etsy store and then he was really there to learn how does he get his Etsy store and then build like a Shopify front end for it so that he can do fulfillment and Etsy not take a piece of whatever they were getting from him is that he knew how to listen to what customers want and then he knew how to listen that of what they would pay a premium for and so he was teaching me the questions he was asking me he was asking of people he was teaching me how he was creating his listings and he had like standard listings and the difference between a standard listing and a premium listing was more than a 10x difference And I'm like, who in the world is paying that for customized checkers?
29:46Oh, he knew. I was at a mastermind. And there was a woman there. And she was so sweet. You know, she was like so nice, definitely quiet. And she was not in any way, shape, or form the type of person that would get a lot of attention. In fact, if I was being kind of honest, she's the kind of person that you might be familiar with at base. But if somebody were to say, like, oh, hey, do you remember her from these events? There was a large chance. the first and second mastermind that I went to in this group of 35 I probably would have said no and I'm embarrassed of that here's why one of the things that I so desperately want that doesn't come natural to me is to be okay in my own skin and march to the beat of my own drum and her marching to the beat of her own drum really just looked like she just didn't give a rip what anybody said she was just there to play her own game and if people spoke to her that was great and if nobody spoke to her, that was great.
30:39She didn't feel at all pressured to go to the group dinners. She did not feel at all pressured to do the happy hours where I felt like, okay, well, I'm here and I got to do these things because of why. I was telling myself a story. She was the kind of person who just didn't tell herself stories. And let me give you a brief description of how for the first couple sessions in this mastermind, I was just watching from a distance. So in the mastermind, we would break up and we'd have small group hot seats. It'd be anywhere from like three to four people. And so here we are about a group of 35 or 40.
31:10And then we broke into much smaller groups. And so there's about 10 groups of three or four. And we happen to be sitting in a group and there was another person sitting next to us and they're going through their hot seat. And then she reaches into her canvas bag and she brings out a head of lettuce, not in a bag, just from her tote where her notebook is and her laptop. She just brings out a head of lettuce. So the third person's talking, talking about their hot seat. And then she brings out this head of lettuce and I'm like, okay, well, pay attention to the person who's talking, but I'm like, I'm fascinated.
31:39What do we need to do with the head of lettuce right now? She doesn't do any, she doesn't peel back the head of lettuce. She just takes a bite of the lettuce. Look, it's an apple. And I am trying my hardest to like, look at this person and not intently about like what this hot seat. And I can't, I keep on peeling my eyes. Like she's eating a head of lettuce, like it's a fruit. And she was just there munching away. We would have guest speakers come into the mastermind and then she would bring out knitting needles and yarn and while this person is talking about ad strategy google analytics whatever the case may be she was knitting now here's the thing you guys nothing is wrong with eating a head of lettuce straight from a canvas bag nothing is wrong is knitting while you're learning about google analytics nothing i as a grown adult wish that i had the hutzpah to be like you want to know what i'm not sure i care about this or maybe knitting helps me think but i i wish i had that in me and i started looking at her and i started becoming so fascinated by her own determination, by her own grit and doing things her own way.
32:41Now, our masterminds for at the time, there would be like four day events. And every day we started at eight, but around like 855, she would disappear. And then she would come back during our 1015 break. This was a regular thing and she'd be gone for a pretty considerable amount of time. Well, this is what I learned is that she was doing the powerful yet simple yet hard thing of consistency. So I didn't know, but she had an$8 million business and she traveled around the world with her husband and children. And why she was disappearing every day at 855 was because at 9 a.m. she would be giving a live webinar.
33:25every day, five days a week, Monday through Friday, she was running continuous ads for a live class. And whenever somebody said, oh, why aren't you on Evergreen? Why are you in demand? Or a lot of people were saying, you know, you're so good at converting people because people just fall in love with you. Like, why don't you just pretend it's live? There are softwares that you can make it look like it's live. And she probably, if she could have, would have stabbed them with her knitting needles and said, I am not a liar. But she didn't. He just kept on doing her dang thing. And her finding the ability for her to be okay with who she was, to take what she wanted to take, to do things on her own terms, was allowing her maybe not to have a$100 million business, but her$8 million business was such a lifestyle business for her.
34:18She had very few employees. she built a compound. I don't remember the state. It might've been Idaho or Iowa, something along those lines where she had literally bought acres and acres and built a compound for her and her husband's family. And she was doing this entirely on her own. This whole episode is talking about how to get ahead of 99 % of your competitors. And then the caveat was, listen, I am just sharing with you what I have done and what I have known. And number one was to never expect a 10 point checklist. And number two was to learn from others. And then number three, what we're talking about right now is don't discredit others.
34:56And at a two day mastermind retreat, there was like a bunch of new people and I met an older guy and he was wanting to build his YouTube channel. And this was not a mastermind that you would go to all year. It was just more of like a mastermind event where you pay a high ticket. You get to be in the room with other founders. Now he was very much on the quiet side and he's like, his only focus is like, listen, I'm only here because I want to learn how to build a YouTube channel and it's all foreign to me. And to the best of my memory, what he sold were hand carved bird colors. Now here's the thing.
35:30I'm born and raised in Los Angeles. I am a city girl through and through. I didn't even know that there were tools to call birds, much less there was like a whole like subculture of people and bird calling like tools that are expensive. And he was a hand carved, apparently best of the best bird calling tools. I'm sure people are going to send me a DM with like what the actual name is. Now, when we were in this mastermind, you would have opportunities to ask questions. And his questions were always around YouTube. He came in with a singular focus. I'm here to learn one thing. And so we would ask anybody who was speaking along that topic, or he would ask a follow-up question and be like, well, how am I, you might make this work on YouTube.
36:08That was his whole focus. He was completely unapologetic. He went in laser, laser focus. And if we were not talking about YouTube or video strategy, he was just really, really, really quiet. So I sat next to him at lunch and I just kind of wanted to know him. I guess maybe I'm attracted to the people who are beguiling to me, people who maybe like identify or embody the things that I have, which have a tendency to be like, I'm laser focused and then really quiet if it just doesn't really pertain to the thing that I am there to focus on. And I found out when I was there that he had sold an e-commerce business for$50 million.
36:45And so he didn't need to start another business, but he was really passionate about making these bird callers. He dove headfirst into making them and he had started a really successful business for his bird callers. Here's the thing. Was he making millions in the business? No, but he didn't need to. He had already done the thing he set out to do. He already sold his$50 million business that was bootstrapped. And so now what he's doing is he's building a business because number one, he loves to build a business. And number two, he likes to be challenged. He wanted to build a business that was so different from how he had done it in the past.
37:23So here's what I learned and then applied to help me get ahead of 99 % of the competition. I learned that you can never judge a book or an entrepreneur by their cover. Not all business gangsters drive Ferraris. You know, like the two spectrums of these people, you know, these Etsy store creators who sell custom goods for checkers and chess pieces and are literally living their best life. Does it have a person who will bring out a head of lettuce and just munch on it or knit when these big amazing business minds are there when she understands that I'm happy with my eight million dollar business and I'm doing it my own way and I live in a compound and I get to travel and be with my kids and my husband and I'm happy and I go live every day and this is me just doing my business to the gentleman who bootstrapped and sold his business for over 50 million dollars and then gets into bird calling and he wants to grow bird calling on YouTube because he loves the game and so I'm collecting all of these stories and saying what was it about them.
38:22I'm not going to discredit or judge anybody else. Anytime I'm in a room with an entrepreneur, I am there and can and should learn something. It is in learning these small things that are empowering me to apply it to myself and whoever my perceived competition is. Now, I know that we're talking about going to events and that we're talking about going to masterminds. And I will not say that a mastermind is an end-all be-all. What I will say was a mastermind was the first thing that really opened my eyes to what the world looked like and put me in rooms that I would otherwise never have access to.
38:53It is why I'm so passionate about it. In fact, we are opening our registration for my own mastermind. This mastermind is for seven-figure entrepreneurs. We are gonna be focused highly on building brands and marketing on social, but more than anything, the whole tenet is going to be how we can focus our seven-figure businesses and get them to eight. Because what I've noticed when it comes to scaling is anytime you can muscle your way, you can muscle your business to around 1.2 million And you can do that on your own, maybe like one or two VAs. But once you start getting to like that$2 to$7 million mark, scaling comes in two ways.
39:29And both need to be in existence. Number one, you're going to be scaling by way of your systems. How locked in and tight are the systems that you've created? So much so that people can join your team, see the system, follow the system, and get identical or very good results. And then the second way that you're going to be scaling to eight figures is by scaling your team. attracting top talent because you're going to start realizing that you can get your business up to like one or two million and you can have like a manager and then the managers then report to you but then there's just too many people who are reporting to you so you still stay in the business and not on the business so how do you add that layer in between your leaders and yourself like where are you hiring your division directors where are you hiring your c-suite what does your org chart look like and so i'm so excited to be creating a mastermind that is going to empower everybody to do just that.
40:21Scale to eight figures by way of systems and by way of people. You can join the mastermind. You can check the application jasminestar.com forward slash mastermind. Okay, we're going to get into the four things that I have done to get ahead in my business. So number one was don't expect a 10-point checklist. Number two was to learn from others in different fields. Number three is don't discredit others. And then number four is don't discredit to yourself, I know, I know. I think it's easy to compare yourself. And the hard thing that I've seen in myself and other business owners, the hard thing is to actually look back and appreciate how far you've come.
40:59A lot of times what I think of, and I did a lot of interviews with eight-figure business owners, and imposter syndrome affects eight-figure business owners too. Imposter syndrome oftentimes affects six-figure business owners in, can I make this work? Who am I to do this? People are going to find out I'm a hack. I don't know enough. Seven-figure entrepreneurs from the research and data that I have been digging into, this is what I'm doing so much in my time in life is I'm just digging deep and finding patterns with business owners, is that when you're at the seven figures, imposter syndrome doesn't show up so much in the way of like, who am I to do this?
41:38it's more along the lines of I have reached a level of success but I'm now doubtful can I do it again I am doubtful that I can become the leader I need to in order for me to scale I'm worried about stepping out of the business because what if the business was so dependent on me like did I do enough foundational structure work but a unique thing which is the most ironic is with eight figure founders imposter syndrome has a tendency to show up in a form of but what I do is not that special, right? Well, yeah, it's great. I have an eight-figure business, but other people have done this. Yeah, I have an eight-figure business, but isn't it the norm?
42:18Isn't this what we know? When you're in the game long enough, this is what you should be doing. Oftentimes, it's not who am I to do this. It's just it's not that special. When the narrative becomes it's just not that special, eight-figure business owners have a hard time getting driven back to the purpose of what it is they do, finding themselves asking questions more along the lines of, okay, but what is this all for? Like we have this, like what is next? Is things ever enough? And so when we talk about imposter syndrome in the three phases, six figure, seven figure, eight figure, I mean, these are by and large wide generalities, but we should also very much know they affect everybody all the time.
42:56If you're building a business, imposter syndrome will come up. So oftentimes, one of the things that I think about is how do we give ourselves credit? How do we appreciate the ways that we've been able to create value? And when I talk about not discrediting yourself to get ahead of your competition, I struggled with this deeply because I would be getting into rooms that I'm just going to be very honest. I don't believe that some people are more important than others. I really don't. I don't believe that some people are special than others. I don't. But I do believe that when you walk into a room based on street credibility or what they've done or the business accolades or how big their business is or how many businesses have they sold.
43:35I don't think they're more special or different or unique, but I do think that like street credibility and the proof is in the pudding that you've done things that very few people have ever done. So for that regard, amazing. And so when I found myself in rooms where I really distinctly felt like I am the smallest fish, and I'm not even in a big pond, I'm in the wrong pond. I started equating like what my value was. Like, do I have something of value to give, which is the wrong headspace to be in. And so in order for me to actually say, I'm not going to discredit myself in this room. What I decided to say is I can create value in this room, even if it's not in relation to things that they have done personally.
44:11I can create value in other ways than the reason why we're in this room. Okay. So let's dive into a couple of examples. I was at a covert, like an executive cohort. And they were all talking about this one thing. And I was, of course, the only other woman. And so we were talking about parenting and being a CEO. And they were talking about the work-life balance between being a dad and a CEO. And they asked me, like, what are some of the things that you have done? And I shared a little bit of my insight. And then two of the guys that were in the group, they ended up sending me messages. And they said, hey, thank you so much for that.
44:44We just didn't see it that way. It's like, oh, they found that valuable, even if we We weren't talking about the merits of things that I had done professionally. Another thing is I try to create value in rooms that I'm in, even if I'm like completely on the outs is I know how to give recommendations. I know it sounds so silly, right? Like if somebody wants a recommendation, I'm going to give a book recommendation, an accountant recommendation, a recruiter, like a recruiter I've worked with very well. Like, what does it actually look like? I can give a recommendation. One thing that I've done to create value in others, like remember, we're sitting here and saying not to discredit yourself, but immediately we go to, these people are better, they have more accolades, whatever the case may be.
45:24So in order for me to say, hey, I know that maybe while the totem pole for success, I might be towards the bottom, it doesn't mean that I can't get value. And one of the things that I've been pretty good at getting value is I know I'm a connector. I know how to connect people. And so I'll be in rooms where I can think to myself, this person really needs to talk to this person in this niche industry. And so I'll go up to them after. I'm like, hey, I listened to what you said. There's this person. I describe it. I said, would it be okay if I asked them, if it was okay with them to make an introduction?
45:5210, 10 times, they're like, yeah, sure. That would be amazing. And so I'll go to this other person and say, hey, I met this great person at this event. I think you really need to stay connected to them. I think there could be a value add. And so then once I get approval to make the introduction from both parties, I'll make that introduction. And then, yeah, I'm done with it. But you want to know what? Anything that was good. And I'm not even talking about just a business deal. Even just the facilitation of the conversation itself becomes so powerful that they remember I created value for them without any expectation.
46:19The last example that I'll give, I'm actually keeping these like very general and nebulous because these are all very special, intimate. I want to protect the people's privacy who I'm having these conversations with. And so I was part of an event and there was a gentleman that I really respected his business. I just love what he does. He started the business with his mom and we had a guest speaker come in. and he had asked the guest speaker for a strategy question. And the guest speaker, I'm gonna be honest, I don't know if the guest speaker either understood the question or understood what was being sold.
46:51Because I'm listening to the advice that the guest speaker gave. And let me be very clear. The advice itself was fricking amazing. But the advice in relation to his business structure, I was like, I don't know if that's right. I mean, I'm not gonna say it's wrong, but like, do you understand? And then he had tried clarifying with the guest speaker, like, well, no, because this is how it works in this industry. and I know that industry. And so we were on Zoom and I sent him a private message on Zoom during it. I was just like, hey, this guy, the guest speaker is brilliant. I am not saying that what he's saying is wrong, but I think that what is happening is there's a disconnect between, and then I explained what I thought it was.
47:25And he said, yes, exactly. And I said, I don't think that having us go into that nuance for an industry he's not familiar with would be worth his time or even the group's time to be spending on it. I said, I would love to set up a 20 minute call because number one, I understand B2C. I understand your industry and I actually think we can ideate around a lot of good marketing ideas for what it is you do. I was like, this is what I eat, breathe and drink every single day. And I emailed him right when we were on Zoom. I emailed his assistant. I said, hey, can I have your contact information? Give me his assistant.
47:55I moved in my assistant. I could just set up a 20 minute call for us. And literally the next day I get a$50 Amazon gift card. And he said, I'm so excited to chat with you about these ideas. Let me tell you for all intents and purposes, I am so outweighed in that room. But I created value by simply saying, I see your industry. I know what it is you do. I think we could just chat and have ideas. Ideate. So my question to you is, how do you not discredit yourself? By finding your own way to create value. And value isn't always a very specific strategy about a very specific thing to be in a very specific room.
48:32I always end these conversations with having a clear call to action and the clear call to action is usually I want to hear from you I want to hear from you but before I get there there is a reminder applications are open for the seven figure mastermind this is for people who want to scale to eight figures I cannot wait to share who our guest speakers are we're having two live events These are going to be two two-day events. We are meeting every single month on Zoom. We have our own Slack channel. We have asynchronous communication. We have guest speakers. It's going to be the cat's meow. Okay, I want to know what you're doing.
49:11I want to know where you're at. I love being creepy. When people tag me in stories when they're at the gym or where they're listening, like, you don't get it. It brings me so much joy. I think that social media, I know, it has its ups. It has its downs. Some people hate it. Some people love it. I get all of it. But every so often being able to connect with people by like the clothes, the pile of clothes that they're folding or them being on this glorious vacation while they're on vacation, they have a little time to brainstorm and they'll listen to the podcast or if they're out walking the dog.
49:36Y 'all, I care about you and I love seeing your life and I'm just basically a creeper. Thank you for listening to the Jasmine Star Show. I cannot wait to connect with you online soon.
From the publisher
Be honest: Have you ever gotten business advice that sounded, well, like this…
To get ahead of 99% of business owners, you must:
…”ABC: Always be closing.”
…”Eat your competition for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.”
…”Never take no for an answer.”
I’m not saying the advice is wrong or even bad, but there are better and more enjoyable ways to get ahead (and stay ahead) in business. Spoiler alert: They have nothing to do with aggressive tactics or relentless hustle.
Instead, in this episode, I’m sharing the four things I’ve done to get ahead and maintain momentum in business.
Click play to hear all of this and…
(00:00:00) What I was told to do to get ahead of 99% of business owners vs. what I actually did.
(00:09:16) The best thing to focus on when you’re growing your business.
(00:13:00) An experience I had in a mastermind group that was a pivotal moment in my growth.
(00:14:53) The framework I use in new environments for success.
(00:20:25) How successful people behave and their approach to problem-solving.
(00:25:47) One of the best ways to find new and innovative solutions for your business.
(00:34:35) How I was able to open my eyes to new opportunities and perspectives.
(00:39:10) What it takes to scale businesses past 7 figures.
(00:41:19) Why high-achieving entrepreneurs get imposter syndrome.
(00:43:18) How to add value in rooms when you feel less experienced.
For full show notes, visit: jasminestar.com/podcast/episode468
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