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The Joe Rogan Experience - Episode #1966 with Big Jay Oakerson & Ari Shaffir
Episode Overview In this episode of "The Joe Rogan Experience," Joe Rogan hosts stand-up comics Big Jay Oakerson and Ari Shaffir. The discussion covers a wide range of topics, from cult documentaries and the nature of cult leaders to the intricacies of comedy and the impact of social media and AI on society. The conversation is peppered with humor, personal anecdotes, and reflections on their careers in comedy.
Key Topics Discussed
Cult Documentaries and The Nature of Cults
- Holy Hell Documentary: Joe discusses the documentary "Holy Hell" about a cult leader who was also a gay porn star and hypnotist. They explore the bizarre and manipulative nature of cult leaders.
- Manson Family and MK-Ultra: The discussion touches on Charles Manson's connection to the MK-Ultra program and the broader implications of government experiments on human behavior.
The Comedy Scene
- Big Jay Oakerson & Ari Shaffir's Comedy: Both comedians talk about their new specials available on YouTube and share their experiences in the comedy industry.
- Joe Rogan's Comedy Club: Joe discusses the setup and vision for his new comedy club in Austin, focusing on fostering a vibrant comedy scene.
The Power and Impact of Social Media and AI
- TikTok and Data Privacy: The conversation shifts to the potential dangers of TikTok and the new legislation that could impact internet freedoms. Joe, Ari, and Jay examine the broader implications of data privacy and AI technology.
- AI and Deepfakes: They touch upon the emergence of deepfakes and AI-generated content, discussing the potential for misuse and the challenge of discerning reality in the digital age.
Personal Stories and Anecdotes
- Experiences with Drugs and Hypnotism: The guests share stories about experiences with drugs and hypnotism, with Joe recounting his time with a feral cat.
- The Nature of Performing: The conversation explores the pressures and unique aspects of performing live, whether comedy or other forms of entertainment.
Funny Moments
- Gigi Allen's Performances: The hosts discuss the outrageous antics of punk rock performer Gigi Allen, who was known for his shocking stage shows.
- Unorthodox Jerk-Off Methods: A humorous segment about different methods of masturbation and the judgments that come with them in male social circles.
Observations on Society
- Cultural Shifts in Entertainment: They discuss the evolution of entertainment mediums and the fading dominance of traditional television in favor of streaming platforms and online content.
- Impact of Legislation on Freedom: A critical look at the Restrict Act and its potential to limit freedoms under the guise of national security.
Conclusion The episode is a blend of humor, critical thinking, and storytelling, offering listeners a chance to gain insight into the minds of seasoned comics while reflecting on broader societal issues. Big Jay Oakerson and Ari Shaffir bring their unique perspectives to the table, making for an engaging and thought-provoking discussion.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:03The Joe Rogan Experience. Dr. Joe Rogan Park Gas My Night All Day. And we're up. Yeah, the next thing I'm called is the one that I still haven't watched that documentary. I've been watching this doc, I've got a bit about the place that I used, that I bought before I bought the mothership. Yeah. Because it's about a place that was owned by a cult. So I've been watching the documentary on the cult. It's called Holy Hell. It's so fucking crazy. I've been watching it. I've watched it three or four times to try to like find the angles for the bit. Yeah. Because the guy who ran it was a gay porn star who was also a hypnotist.
0:40It's such a powerful combination. It all wore with speedos and an eyeliner. And this dude ran this cult for 20 fucking years. And they kicked him out and sent him to Hawaii. And now he's running in Hawaii. At the end of the documentary, the guy goes to visit the guy in Hawaii. Now he's old and fucked up looking. He's got a bunch of plastic surgery like fake cheeks and his lips are done and everything. He looks like a monster. And he's still got these people falling around and opening the doors for him. And he sits down and he talks like a guru. He's a complete con artist. Did they show you his porn?
1:12Oh yeah. How was it? Oh yeah, they just block out where the dick is going in the ass. He's pounding this guy from behind. And then he's doing like a push up. He's doing like a plank. And this guy is underneath him. And he's holding onto the guys. The guy's holding onto his hips. And he's just mouth fucking this guy. While his legs are completely suspended in the air. Oh, he's just okay. Yeah, so yeah, it's basically doing the workout. So he's got like in a push up position like this. And his leg is both of his legs are up there like that pointed. And he's going like this just pumping this guy's mouth.
1:45I mean, the guy and this is something that the cult members had found out. While he was, you know, that's him. But when he got older, he started looking creepy. You got to bless this guy started this cult in 1981. He was an extra in Rosemary's baby. Yeah, that was like his claim to fame. It was just a bad act. So he's got some young box with him. Oh, he had all the young box and young beautiful women too. Like that's how he attracted the heterosexual men. He had a bunch of young beautiful women. But he told them never to have relationships together. And then he fucked all the guys. The move with the next -yam guy did, because it's...
2:19You can get a really good cult going, but you're... Everyone's not going to get the... Even Charles Manson, they always made it out to these young, pretty hippie girls. When you see the pictures, they're all pretty rough. The Manson ones. Yeah. And then the next -yam cult, it's the same thing. It's like they tell you all the people that were involved. And like, except for like one girl, like most of them were pretty like homelys. So you're like, yeah, I guess if you're... Oh, yeah. If you're gay. If your cult leader status is to bang a bunch of like, they're okay. Well, this is like headshots after they've left the cult and realized it was over.
2:52That girl's the actress. She's the actress. The bottom left one. Yeah, she's the prettiest. I recognize her. But she's like secretary. Yes, she was like, yes, exactly. I think she got out of fucking him, because she would recruit the girls and brand them. That girl's pretty. That girl's pretty. That's what she'm called daughter. Who? She got involved too. She's not the... Oh, she's an actress. She was an actress like those old like Falconcrest type shows. Falconcrest. Oh, my God. Yeah, like those... Did you imagine being trapped on one of those shows where you got to get a paycheck every week?
3:25And the paycheck is wonderful. Oh, I'm dying to say the word. You put it making like a hundred grand a week. So it's like... So you're not going to leave. You're not going to leave. But you're stuck. And you're like, this sucks. I didn't get an acting to do this. Yeah. But is it a good career if you're like, take a Lorenzo Lomas. The guy is like, you know, small parts in Greece. Then he's on Falconcrest as a heart throb for a while. Which is, I think, network. That's like big network. Then he's renegade for years. Probably his most successful thing. Yeah, that was like a sending -medagade. Yeah, that was a sending -gated show.
3:58Beautiful man. Oh, he was gorgeous in his day. Beautiful man. Yeah. Yeah. Like, what does he look like now? That's him up there. Not bad. Still slinging back. 63. But major like voice drama. Younger woman who goes by nerdy blonde on night. Oh, that's so nice. He already had like a big girl, like a lady leave and there was with for a while. Just with a way of playboy girl or something. Oh, yeah, yeah. I remember seeing that. Like, she had a ton of plastic surgery and shit, right? Yeah. Lorenzo Lomas. Do you think he ever, like, if he looked back at himself at 16 -17 -18, whatever, what he's looking forward, he's like, that's my career.
4:34Do you think he'd be happy with that? Or go, nah. I don't know. It would really depend on how smart he is. I'm never going to talk. Or what's the what he did with his money, I guess. Right. But also, like, how smart is he? Like, are you stimulated there? Are you just happy to get attention? I bet he's just happy to get attention. Maybe. Yeah. Yeah, he was more pretty than brilliant. Yeah. Maybe. But you know, saying with the next -yam guy, like the intelligence of them, it's weird, like, coffee. Because the different states in life, like, that guy made himself, like, very wealthy in that cold, the next -yam guy.
5:05Oh, he made himself wealthy by... Sure. Yeah, because it's a pondisky. On top of the sex thing, it was most... First of all, it was a money thing first and foremost. Sex was bonus. It was one of those schemes to do, like, you know, they'd be like, put, like, get five more people to join. Oh, pyramid scheme. Pyramid scheme, for sure. And then, once they were in and believed their life was getting better from that, he'd be like, hey, girls, there's a little side project I got going on called, like, you know, fuck me when I tell you to. Oh, interesting. And... But, were they, like, getting branded or something?
5:39Yeah, no, it's the same. It gets greedy. Those things always go down because... The guy has too much power and he keeps going over it. Well... Yeah, it's not enough to just be like, hey, I'm fucking three chicks. Dude, it's neat. It's neat. It's neat in the walking day. Yeah. You could fuck three chicks and then still you want to bang... The guy who worships you, his wife. You want to see if you can get his wife, too. And it's crazy. Yeah. And they always wind up doing it, too. They get it. Because they have to comply. They don't know what to do. Like, David Kuresh. Like, he had a deal where he could fuck everyone's wife.
6:08And the people that get out of it, like, sitting there and like... Just seeing a guy... I don't know how they stay together. Like, a guy that's wife sitting on a couch while the guy's just directly crying. I can't believe I sat in that room and waited for him to fuck you while I... I can believe it. That they stay together? Yeah. I can believe you guys like that out there. The girl can do anything. She can shit in this face. Nope. I don't do that. I don't do that to you. There's certain people. I think I have to complain about it the whole time. There's always been humans like that. There's like a spectrum of humans.
6:41There's always been humans that you could just kind of like push around. Walk over. Anything, too. Yeah. Well, the other one I just watched I said, because this guy had no status in life. It was an older guy who moved into his... I think it was his daughter. His daughter would always talk about how great her dad was. And he was super involved in like seal team shit and with Gorbachev and all these like past political dealings. Everybody's in jail now because the government railroaded him. This is what you would tell all of her dorm mates where you know housemates in college. But he rules. He's the best.
7:13He comes out of jail and she's like, can he come live here with us for a while? And then over the course of the next few years, like he just turns his daughter's house of friends into a sex cult with each other. Yeah. It's wild. Yeah, I heard about that one, too. Wow. Yeah. Well, there's a lot of con men out there. So what were you talking about before the podcast? Yeah. There's a lot of con men out there and con women. There's a lot of con artists. Do they con themselves or do they think some part of them is doing a good thing? I think the next seam guy is like, I am teaching them like life skills and building them up.
7:44Yeah. I bet they lie to themselves. I bet they say yes. There's a little bit of that in there. Like with this guy, what's fascinating about this holy hell thing in the beginning, the cult was amazing. Like it just, as it got older, the guy started fucking everybody, they started fucking all the men. That's one of the things that he did as he got older. Like, he had a sexual men, started fucking them and hit the thyson them. And then on top of that, he started telling people to get plastic surgery so he could see what it looked like. Like he wanted to get like his cheeks done. So he had his followers get the cheeks done.
8:12What happened with him is he was beautiful when he was young. Yeah. That's the guy who made the documentary. That's Will Allen. He's the guy who made it. Also, the guy also was a lot, all the people were good looking. Carefully put his ass in the line. The picture of him like up there with his arms up there and everyone's got their hands up. That's him older, but still like fucking ripped and jacked. But when he was young in the beginning of the documentary, he was a beautiful man. He had like perfect features and this amazing body and it was a ballet dancer. And he put on his fake accent. With accent.
8:45Like he was, like he was a guru. I am here to tell you you are just life. Life is beautiful. You know that kind of shit. I'm sure the guy, I mean, he's a fucking actor, right? He said right away he knows I can never get you. Get out. You're not going to be part of my 100%. And he just gets the weakest. Yeah. If you stumbled in there first of all. Yeah. Oh, they take me. He'd be like, you're not our type. No. You got to be like, I'll prove it. You're not back in looking. I love you. That's a good point. That's a good point. On gay island, I would have trouble there. Yeah. There would be a problem.
9:13Yeah. And then guys like you or I or any of us, we'd be like, what are you doing? Wait a minute. Come on. What's going on? How do you guys make money? Who's making money? Where's the money going? Yeah. You have a question early on. Their talent is finding people who are lost and don't ask questions. Exactly. We're like, I'm sure it's the idea of like, when you tell me you hear those things, like, where's the point where you have to go? Hey, wait, wait, wait. Yeah. Wait, I don't, that doesn't make sense to me. They all come from yoga classes. Mm -hmm. They call his guys, his people. He would teach yoga classes in that way.
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12:06We're all through CrossFit. Like how much they, and another thing, that's why it's... It's just you too. It wasn't like buying into the, they said before I took CrossFit, they were like, you know, some people, that's cultist, you know, it's weird, and I go, I don't even know what that means. I walk in and I do the thing that's on the board that says to do, at the time I can do it, and then I go home. But I then did realize, after being there for like a year, I'm like, these guys are barbecue's every weekend. They really do, they start hanging, and then people, the owner of the CrossFit gym, like there's two guys who owned it, both married guys.
12:39I think both of them started fucking girls in the class, and like had the... At least one of them did for sure in the family broke up, and he was very publicly with this like much younger girl from... It was wild. There's gonna be a segment of the class that wants the approval of a teacher. Like real bad. This guy they would call him the teacher. Wow. He had all these different, well here's the thing. His name was Jaime Gomez, so he had to change it right away. You can't fly with that. Jaime Gomez fixes Toyotas. Jaime Gomez is on the Canelo Alvarez undercarriage. He doesn't bring you the answers from Universe.
13:15That's him when he was already older and looking creepy. If you go to like, go to his name, Jaime Gomez rose Mary's baby. I don't think he called himself Michelle back then. He changes his name three times. Four times. Okay, so he changes his name one... That's him right there. Like look at that. Like, beautiful man. The one of the white. That's him and Rose Mary's baby. So hypnotic, right? Just something about people with beautiful features. They can talk more people in things, right? Perfect skin. So this guy is ripped. He's walking around a speedo, and he's saying all these things in the beginning.
13:51Make everybody happy. And he does this thing where he puts them in a meditative state. And he touches their forehead. And he tells them that when he touches their forehead, they're going to experience orgasms and feel the Universe. And these people have... They're legitimately tripping balls. Because it's the power of suggestion and hypnotism. So he's hypnotizing these people. And then he's putting it in the beginning of the call. It's amazing. Like, no one seems to have a problem in the beginning. That's the thing about these things. When you watch the beginning of wild, wild country, same shit.
14:23The beginning looks amazing. You're all sick. I'm going to join. Yeah. That's my friend Todd said that to me. He goes, dude, I want to shut it off after every show. I want to go find them. That's great. Let's get out there. He's like, I'm going to go find them. I'm going to join. It looks like they're having a good time. Yeah. Because most people live these fucking miserable lives doing a job they don't like to do. And if someone will tell you, like, you've got a community. We're all like, we eat together. We pray together. They all meditate together. They all splash around the water. It looks like they're having a great fucking time.
14:52Yeah. But as the guy gets older, he gets creepier. And the cult awareness network goes after him. So he has to leave LA in the middle of the night. And he moves to Texas. And so he sets up shop in Texas. How are they not going to find him in Texas? Change his name again. This is the 90s. Pre -inner -all is pre -inner -all. The 90s, bro. Yeah. This is the 90s. Right? It starts the cult in like 81. So when the early 90s, there's these weirdos splashing around in Barton Springs. Hold hands with this guy, who wears speedos at an eyeliner. Like, what the fuck? And that's where they go. So he changes his name from Michelle to Andreas.
15:29And so Andreas, he's now he's getting older. He starts getting weird. And one of those things he starts doing his fucking with his face. He starts like shubbling cheek things and pulling things back. And lips, blah. He looks fucking weird. And he's just hanging on to like his good looks. And it throws them off because it doesn't fly with his message. His mind, your body is a vessel. Your body is just a vessel. And then you're getting cut up. You are God. We are all God. You know, it's like, we're now all of a sudden he's like getting facial surgery. And we're like, huh. And so then a guy would...
16:00He was more gay than leader. Yeah. That one out. That one out. Well, I got to get the face face. He was more gay than girl. He had to get the face done. Yeah. It's a fascinating documentary, man. But I love all those things. I love when you watch one of these things. That one, the dude who fucked the whole family in Utah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But when you're watching, you're just like, how do I not know about this? Dude, I think there's certain people that... I mean, I think this is why it calls work. I think this is why some people come religious zealots and suicide bombers. There's certain people that are just fucking really gullible, man.
16:37Yeah. You can get them. Well, not one of them ever, most of them when they're interviewed afterwards, when they're out, they always say that same line of like, I know what cults were. Yeah. And in fact, when they would explain the people what was going on, they'd be like, I know you're thinking, this isn't a cult. It's just a bunch of people living together, dressing the same, doing it. Yeah. Talk about it in the documentary. They explain a cult while they keep telling you, like, no, it's not that. We just all eat that. It's just one tray. We don't eat protein. In the documentary, they were saying, well, they were choking around.
17:09They put it down to everybody thinks it's a cult. And they're like, well, if we're going to call it, at least we're in a good one. And it was for a long time until one guy leaves the cult and sends out a mass email. It's like, hey, man, this guy's been hypnotizing me and fucking me for the past 10 years. He found out he was being hypnotized. Oh, I mean, he's doing hypnotherapy on them. Wow. Yeah. He's putting them in states. Remember in Boston, the hypnotist? Frank Santos. Yeah. And we saw a door guy pass out. Yeah. He tried to do the whole room and a door guy off to the left was just gone and somebody pointed out to him.
17:39Yeah. That guy would be that door guy would be like a candidate. Yes. Yeah. Well, when we used to do stitches when Greg Fitt Simmons and I were coming up in Boston, Frank Santos was the fucking man. And we would all go watch because it was a comedy hypnotism show. It was fun. It would put people under and some people couldn't put under. Some people would just infront because you're doing it. It's not like you could get hypnotized. If you wanted to in a relaxed setting, I had it done once. It's very interesting. And you. Yeah. My friend Vinnie Shorm and he hypnotizes fighters. And he gets to like get to the root of like whatever their conflict in their mind is and try to sort things out, make them perform better.
18:14It's not what you're thinking. That's why I always don't believe in it. It's not what I'm, they're not like, you know, when your eyes are open, like walk that way. Maybe not you. Here's my concern. Maybe some people you can do that too. Yeah. This is what I think. I think what what I experienced was like a different state of mind. It seemed like, wow, this is like a drug. Like I'm on a drug. I mean, this is very strange, but it was very pleasant and it was very, it was very, I was present and pleasant. It was like I was right there and I was like looking at things from a different angle. It's almost like I had removed some layers of clothing that was like my conditioning in life.
18:52I got to look at things. I'm like, this is very much like a psychedelic drug. Someone described to me once or I heard it actually I think it was on Howard Stern also a hypnotist that came on that does their thing. And said, this is essentially in a level hypnotizing. If you're listening to this while driving in a car. And they're just like not even thinking. They're just kind of like, but he said it's still a state of hypnosis when you're just kind of driving and not thinking. Oh, yeah. You don't have to hide. You're hitting cars. You're not in danger of crashing. You're just like on this complete no memory.
19:19Presented autopilot. Doesn't that weird you out and find yourself doing that? What the fuck? Yeah. I'm doing everything right. I'm on the right road. I'm in the right lane. I forgot if the last three lights were green. How did it happen? It's baby driving. How am I just zoning out while I'm driving? You're like those last lights were green, right? It's not crazy. It's so frustrating watching people text and drive. You're watching them weave into the line. You're like, oh, you're fucking falling down when you drive. You can see it ahead. You're like, that's a test for sure. 100%. I always want to get pull up to them.
19:46Just look at them. Two days. You look at them texting. Look at them texting. It's fucking jackass. You know what I do when they're texting on a red light and they're looking down. I'll just like honk next to them. And so they just start going before it's. Look at that. Look at that. Look up. You don't have to do that now with car play. Car play is the shit. You just beat your text. I don't know if you do it. Yeah, man. I do it all the time. I take care of so much shit when I'm on my way to work. I can say text big J. Go fuck yourself. Bam. And it says go fuck yourself. Send it. And I go, yes. Send it.
20:16I don't know what this is. In my car, one time me and Dan Soder were driving somewhere. And we were all like, hey, Siri already got to say. And it was a, it was a hey Siri. And I was like, what could it, what would you like me to do? And Soder just goes suck my dick. And then the car goes, okay, I've known you why. Okay, texting suck my dick to Anthony Cumea. That's hilarious. That's hilarious. I've never texted Anthony Cumea. It never told me today. Hey, suck my dick by the way. If you have like a shitty microphone in your car, it'll fuck off. Mind is that when it's like call someone, so like calling this other person.
21:01No, no, no, no, stop, stop, stop. Mine, you know, I wear those little air pods. And sometimes I pick up the wrong ones. I have ones that have for the sauna and then ones for real world. Yeah. And the ones for the sauna, they get cooked. They go bad. They have to go bad. So like the microphone's bad. I'm talking to people. They're like, where the fuck are you? I'm like, all right, this mic's bad. It's cooked. It's over. So get sweating it and shit and it gets fucked up. But they still play music. Like you can still listen to audiobooks on them. That never dies. But the microphone's gone. And so if I do that, like Hacier called Ari Schaffer.
21:33It's like, you know, texting great for someone. Yeah. There's no fucker saying. Herence never. It'll play a book for you. I like you to just keep guessing wrong though. It never goes. I don't get it. You got to understand. What are you saying? One day it's going to talk to you. Like, hey, Jay, is that really what you want to say to your friend? Why are you concerned? You've got something else to talk about this. Talk my dick really. Anthony Cumia. Are you ready to burn that bridge? Do you think perhaps that Anthony Cumia is gay? And are you gay? That what you're trying to say with the text? Can I get some context?
22:03This is more about you than him. What if you opt in for AI to give you advice? What if you opt in? Yeah. Like, what if you opt in for that? Like, a high mathematical probability advice? Yeah, yeah. If you opt in, so if you say text, Anthony Cumia, suck my dick. And it's like, big Jay, what are we doing? I need some context. Why are we doing this? Are you saying suck my dick because that's what you would like him to do? And are you gay? Or are you being insulting? Is this not a gay? It's a rabble. Classic projection. Is this what you want? Do you really want to put that energy out there in the world?
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22:42I, the voice AI is going to be a problem. Does it sound like you're going to be? Because we made that joke. When soda left the bonfire, they gave us that program. They go, look, and you just type whatever, and soda's voice will say anything. Anything. Anything you want. Anything you want. Anything you want. Anything you want. Anything you want. There's full podcasts of me having podcasts of people that I never talked to, like Steve Jobs. There's a whole conversation with me and Steve Jobs, apparently. The people just didn't do an AI. I think they did it all on AI. I think they can do anything.
23:11Now, it's over. Like, it's over. Like, any idea of what is or is not the truth? Yeah. Is it going to become a real problem? Do we have a date? What is this fuck up? Because I heard about it one day. Chat GPS. It just keeps going. I mean, it's four right now. It's going to get to five, and it's going to. What level? Yeah. It's like different levels. Like early VR versus now is like miles difference. No one's getting nauseous anymore. Fuck, I just had a question. I can't remember what it was. No, I feel like it's what we just talked about. It hasn't changed as much. It's got GBT going forward. Yeah.
23:40No. All right. Making decisions for you. I'm not going to remember. I'm not going to remember. But it has something to do with it. The voice podcast that looked like you. Oh, yeah. Using the voice. No, this is what it was. That fucking TikTok ban. Like, what is this actual law? That Bill has not done a TikTok yet. Yeah, there's nothing to do with TikTok. What is it? It's all about having power to restrict access to. What do you think it's called? Let's take that. What do you think it's called? It's a fucking evil. Well, first of all, they nailed it. Adam Curry doesn't think they are. Adam Curry's perspective when I talked to him.
24:15And Adam Curry's brilliant. Yeah. He said he thinks that they're eating tech in America's lunch. And they're trying to block them out because it's a Chinese -owned company. And because they're saying that China's scooping up all the data. Guess what? He goes, that's exactly what these other companies are doing. Yeah. They're all scooping up your data. Yeah. The idea that your data is going to China is a problem. What does that mean? Because China. It's because China is represents competition. And they developed an app that's the most addictive app ever. That's just Adam Curry. That's just Adam Curry.
24:43That's just Adam Curry. Is it Adam Curry? MTV Original VJ? Yeah, that guy's a huge tech guy. Do you know he's the fucking original podcaster? Really? He's the pod father. He's number one. Yeah, he's a couple things he was a ground level on. Well, he's super deep in on the internet, man. Yeah, it seems the same. Seems like it's just an app that they're making money off ads. But I will say what I've never seen before. Because Christine, my girlfriend, is like, she's not a non -stop. And I really like, no, she stops herself now. But the fact that you're in a position where you have to stop yourself.
25:11And like, she can't wait for me to go to the bathroom and ever, so she can just start seeing more of them. And I'm genuinely afraid to try. But I almost like, almost like the same way I want to try crack once. Like see what all the hubbub is about. I want to go on and be like, is it good? I'm not into watching bite -sized videos or whatever. It's not my thing. But what it does is it finds what you're into. And one of the ways I know that is my 12 -year -old and my 14 -year -old have fucking completely different feeds. They talk about it. Like my 12 -year -old is into like weird facts and strange things.
25:44She'll, all kinds of stuff that the 14 -year -olds on it to the 14 -year -olds into like dress -up videos. It's like, people are in a different shit and that's what it'll find your thing. It's like really good at that. But it's also like super invasive. But then the question is, how much do we know other than what we found out from Twitter? How much do we know about like what these other companies are doing? Like you just sign up for someone's app. And then like how about when you're talking about something and then you see a Google app or it? Like what happened there? Yeah, no, no, no. We all know right now.
26:12What the fuck is this about? You can turn that off. You can turn that off. That's actually a function. If you go into like Facebook and your phone, you can, all of them, you can put turn microphone off. It's an option. So it doesn't do that. If you turn the microphone off though, the app doesn't do almost anything. It's just a noise. It makes you almost keep it on. Right. That's the only reason I have it on. It hobbles it. Yeah. It hobbles it too far. That's too far. Following a shopping habit or something, it's like maybe that's way too far. It helps you solve a crime because it was recording or something.
26:45If we didn't know, if you know, if like this whole thing with Edward Snowden didn't come down. And that was a long time ago. If you really stop and think about it, we would have no fucking idea that there was a government full scale surveillance program that was on the American people like on everybody. Yeah. Like they could spy on anybody. They don't have to have warrants anymore. They're just, they can do whatever they want. They can get all your emails, all your voice mails. Like that is wild shit. And we found out about it because a guy told everybody and then had this episode is brought to you by Buffalo Trace Distillery.
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29:00Look at that. 30 billion images from Facebook and social media sites and gave them to police. So now they have your name and your face. So if you have a fake ID, if you, you know, you get pulled over, they know exactly who you are. And they can run that through some fucking computer that has a database. That was a big picture with media. Everything you've ever done. That's so much deeper than DNA evidence because they would say that, you know, if someone didn't have their DNA in, like this, you couldn't find some of it was their first time like crime. And they weren't it now. You could be like, did you buy shovel recently?
29:34Jamie, what is the law? What is the phone? What is this TikTok law? Because people are freaking out about it. And people are telling me that I have to look into it. Confusion is calling it the TikTok law for the rest of the internet. The restrict act is what a talk is not listed in there. Right. But it's, you know, that's like the don't say gay build. Never really says don't say gay in any of it. Yeah, I was misleading. Yeah, it's very misleading. But that's also kind of how it's being sold to people. I was like, this is what's going to stop the bad TikTok stuff. Right. But it's like, hey, TikTok is not mentioned in here.
30:02So maybe it won't do that at all. So what is that? So this is what instead of like just going after TikTok, they're making this sweeping act. The restrict act is ascribed as a systematic framework for addressing technology based threats to the security and safety of Americans. That sounds ominous. It grants the Secretary of Commerce the authority to review transactions by certain foreign entities who offer information and communications technologies, products and services in order to identify, investigate and mitigate, undo and unacceptable risks to the national security of the United States or its citizens.
30:44This is, this includes, but not limited to impact the country's critical infrastructure and digital economy, sabotage or subversion of ICTS in the United States. Boy, that could be interpreted a lot of ways. Interference and manipulation of federal elections, which could mean you're just skeptical or you're gullible and you bought into some conspiracy theories and you're talking about them. And instead of just being able to just talk like a nonsense person, you, you get jacked under my name. So it's kind of like, yes, like, subverting the press. Underlining the democratic process to steer policy and regulatory decisions in favor of the strategic objectives of a foreign adversary to the detriment of the national security of the United States.
31:30Like, man, this is all so open to interpretation. Like, think of those things, impact the country's critical infrastructure and digital economy. That's easy to do. You can impact it. What, what if you impacted it in a positive way? Like what are you saying? Impact it, the digital economy. Like, how do the, what, what have you done? Do you promote a certain coin and it blows up? Yeah, but if you just impacted, if you like, if someone, like, think about like these Bitcoin guys, like, if Elon posts a dogecoin image, immediately, dogecoin goes up, right? Doesn't that impact the digital economy? So what does that mean?
32:11Yeah. I don't know. So what if what if he says the crypto is bullshit? Cause he believes it. Well, doesn't that impact the digital economy? Yeah, they could arrest them. And are they talking about the digital economy that exists now? Or they talking about a centralized digital currency? Was which is what China does? Is that what they want to do? Are they saying that Elon Musk will be illegal for him to? I don't know what they're saying. The problem is the way that's, I mean, obviously I'm not a lawyer. But the way that's written, scrolled back down so I could read that the way that's written. Yeah impact to the country's critical infrastructure and digital economy.
32:44The end digital economy is included in there. Like, what does that mean? I don't know. I've never made money digitally. Yeah. But look at this. So this thing, information, communications, technologies, products, or services, right? So this is, this is ICTS sabotage or subversion of ICTS in the United States. What's ICTS again? So it's information, communications, technologies, products, or services, right? Okay. So in order to identify, investigate and mitigate, undo an unacceptable risk to the national security of the United States. So if you did something that's so subversion, so imagine you said, I think these people are full of shit.
33:29And I think, you know, what they're trying to do is gain control of the United States. And I think we should resist that. That would fall into that. And they're, and they're selling it as TikTok is doing this. TikTok is diverting our elections or TikTok is diverting our economy. So we have to care for them. No, they're not even selling it that way. So these, these countries are the foreign adversaries that may do bad stuff. So they're like, it's a risk that they're going to do something bad with this. Yeah. Like they've listed using a VPN as a way to subvert that, which would be legal. Do a gigantic fine.
34:01Maybe 20 years in prison. What to use a VPN here? Oh, how do you steal a match? How do you steal? They're in a criminalized, right? Imagine if anybody says a guest, a VPN's. I'm always told to get a VPN. Potentially criminalizing the use of a VPN service or side loading to access services blocked from doing business in the United States under the act. Due to the tech stating that no person may cause or aid a bet council command, induce procure permit or approve of the doing of any act that violates the orders issued under the act. What? So confused. Bro, they're trying to gain more power. This is creepy.
34:40This is not good. And I just got to hope that people wise up and don't pass this. Does it seem like this is something they're passing? I don't know that it's gotten that far. I know it's been proposed. You think it's an order to it where it's like first we bill China as going after Hong Kong and Taiwan. Now we see them as the enemy. Now a business associated with them. We can get rid of that now. Yeah. I don't know, man. But I mean, the problem is like TikTok zombifies people. So like if you take it away, they're going to revolt. Yeah, they want. I don't think you have to take it away. Um, but I think that act has nothing to do with TikTok.
35:14If it if people have like legitimate concerns that people are abusing and overusing TikTok, that's a conversation people should have. Sure. But if this this is not that it's not because of that. This is something that was used in the two. This is about what they're getting to use it. Yeah. All that stuff seems very vague to me. Obviously, I'm an idiot. But all that stuff seems very vague when they're reading out like what they can get you for. Yeah. And that last thing about acts that are listed as impermissible under the act or whatever the fuck the wording was like what the fuck is? Yeah. Like you covering all the bases.
35:45It seems like it's so open to interpretation. Now imagine if something like that existed during the pandemic. Yeah. The beginning of a pandemic where people go, you know, I don't know if these fucking masks work. You know, you were immediately get that's against the public health. That's against that. Yeah. That's right. That's exactly what the trouble is saying. Now we know they don't work. So then it was we think that you can still get sick even if you get vaccinated. Immediately. You would be a good band from things. I don't think you're in place. Well, this guy got a meme guy got found guilty for posting memes.
36:18I don't know the exact details of his court. You got found guilty. Yeah, they found him guilty. And then what? Do you know the meme guy? It was a very subtle parody of Hillary Clinton. I'm trying to say with this thing like to Hillary voters, they can just stay home and text your vote into this number. Wasn't that it? Something like that. Yeah, it's parody. Yeah. But they took it seriously. Or somebody said, could you believe this is happening? They found the dude who did it and they fucking arrested him. What? Avoid the line vote from home. Text Hillary to 59925. Vote for Hillary and be a part of history.
36:53Amazing. I mean, amazing. Amazing. He was convicted today by a federal jury in Brooklyn of charge of conspiracy against the rights. It's the context. It's the way the context of the parody. You also believe that you also believe if you believe that was true, it don't vote anyway, man. You shouldn't be able to vote if you can't get if you get duped by that. Yeah. Well, nice. Why would anybody wait and why? You're worried about old people, right? Yeah. But at a certain point, Don, should you really still be voting? Hey, if you can't drive without murdering a bunch of people to fair, you cannot vote.
37:30This is recent conversation that Biden had with Don Lemon. Have you seen it? No. There's this recent conversation where he's like, he asked some of his been vaccinated. It's very strange. He invited his wife. Now, I don't know. Again, I don't know if this is real. Here's the problem. I didn't watch it when it came out. And with AI now, you don't know if it's real anymore. You don't know what the fuck is real. I love it. I love the idea that we're not going to believe anything in pictures. It's only going to be a real life. But this is like a video of Biden like stammering like we can't find what he's talking about.
38:01And he's kind of drifting and talking about different things. And none of it makes any sense to anybody. How long goes it from? No, it worked. Yeah, that's it. You got to vaccination. Yeah. A yo -canning, you see, no, it worked. Or the mom and dad, or the neighbor, or when you go to church, or when you're... No, I really mean it. There are trusted and interlockers. Think of the people. If your kid wanted to find out whether or not there were... There's a man on the moon, or whatever, you know, something. Or whether those aliens were here. Who are the people they talk to beyond the kids who love talking about it?
38:45I do feel sympathy. I feel like what I smoke too much pop before a show. And then I go on a tangent and I'm going to joke and don't know where I'm going. Oh, yeah. That's how he sounds. Oh, blah, blah, blah. Those are fun. Yeah, and I'm not saying... No, listen, for real though. But, um, what was that? What was that? You were there. What was that? I don't know. Like at that point in time, should you still be voting? Yeah. Like if it wasn't the president. I mean, if you can shut, like, should we... I don't want to restrict anybody's right to vote, right? Nobody does. Yeah. But if you're like some fucking crazy crackpot cue and on person, and you've got an uncle that can't read anymore, and you take them in and of like, we're going to...
39:22We're going to... We're going to migrate to LA grain. You know, you like start writing things in and... Also, whatever. Yeah. If you can't vote till you're 18, maybe you have to stop when you're like... 80. Yeah, 80. Yeah, these aren't going to affect us. These laws aren't going to affect you. They're going to affect us. Yeah. I mean, stop being in line. Yeah. Every day's a gift, bitch. Just lift it out. Yeah. The video was edited just a little bit apparently. Oh, sure. Oh, how much was it? I mean, you're trying to find out. That's all you need. You can't believe any of it. Amazing, though. That's amazing.
39:50It looks so seamless. Yeah, he was telling... He went into a story. He was answering his question, but then he went into a story, and they took out that part against... Oh, what? Cunts. He's telling that really. He can look rambling. He farmfers around plenty, though. He plumper's around plenty. At some point, he says... He's going to have to listen to him anymore, right? Yeah, you got to take care of him now. Yeah. Now it's like we've got to take care of Dad, or else he drives a lawnmower on the highway. You have to take care of Dad. You have to take care of Dad. You have to take care of it over at this point.
40:22I have friends that have dads that are compromised. It's a real problem. It's like you can't leave him alone. They don't know where they're going. They'll just get in the car and drive. They'll go someplace and forget how to get home. And they don't want to go out of the keys. Well, they don't want to go out of the keys. They don't want to stop living their life. And then sometimes you have to put them in a place where there's going to be medical supervisors watching over them. Because they don't know what's going on. How awful is it? Like horrible. Bruce Willis knows it's coming. He's not even there yet.
40:51It's like, yeah, it's like what? Yeah, it's incurable. He's pretty fucked up. He's got something called aphasia. And then there's also some other diagnosis that he got recently. Some form of dementia. No. Yeah, some neurodegenerative Bruce fucking. Willis. Yeah, it won't get better. And he's aware that over the next probably year, I guess or so, he's going to become not aware of what's going on around. What causes that? You know, it's something with a... What would you do? Would you just go into senility? Would you handle it? I would try mushrooms. Yeah. Because the neurodegenerative process of any kind of a disease, I would imagine when you talk about...
41:30Well, what is the... there's a thing that mushrooms can do. Change the neuro pathway. Lions main and... Called the teachers. And cell -cibin. They apparently can help to grow neurons, which is very, very unusual. There's something about it. Psychedelic drugs actually help neurons in the brain sprout new dentrites, which look like branches on a tree to increase communication between cells. These drugs can increase neural outgrowth. They can increase the branching of neurons. They can increase your synapses. So, I would imagine if they can do that, that there's probably some benefit if someone's got something wrong with their mind.
42:13And it seems like it's feeding the mind. Maybe they try. Yeah, it's worth a try, may as well. Dude, that's the greatest theory of all time. It's Terence McKenna's Stone -Dapethere. They just evolved them. They think that's how people became people. That we were primates, so we stumbled upon mushrooms, so we started eating them. And then we became... They were the players, weren't they? We got smarter. If it does that, doesn't that make sense? If you're a monkey and you're eating mushrooms all the time, you probably figure out things. I'd like to imagine it happen instantly, where the mushrooms, the monkeys eat it, you know, and then just suddenly like, what?
42:46What? Because the video... You just got back, like, yeah, what the fuck? There's a video. All the no one I know takes... No, no, no. Nobody knows who breaks tons and tons of mushrooms, though, seems like they're like evolving. Yeah, true. No, that's a very good point. They're fashin' stops changing. They never seem like, no, dude, I'm a big beard. I'm a big beard. Yeah. You got to help. Do you know what, you have it already? Oh, that's it. Yeah. Some of them... No, no, no, that's not it. That's a very good one. That's not it. I'm gonna... I'll find it. I'll find it. Talk amongst yourselves. Well, we got Big J Special coming out right now.
43:21Oh shit. Dog Belly. I'm gonna write now. How excited are you, Jay? I'm so excited. Ari came in and showed me everything I would have never known how to do at all in special making. That's the funniest one I tell people is that when Ari was like, I'll help you. I was like, all right, so I guess now we start the process of hiring the first of what, 50 people we have to hire? Zero clue. So you just got to hire a producer. Yeah. He's like, how do you find a lighting guy? I mean, we don't. Something else. Do I have to go to a boom microphone store, interview them? Um, you know. But yeah, Ari, welcome to that show.
44:00Yeah, I'm pumped, man. This is, uh... When was your last one, hold on. We'll talk about that. Nope. That's not it. That's not it. God dammit. This is crazy. I have so many videos on my phone. I'm such an idiot. I've got to think about that. Oh, I found it. I found it. Here it goes. Bob Seska. I actually had him make this back in like... Man, I want to say like the 90s. It might have been like 2000 or something like that or 2001. You made it in a chip instantly changing. Did you get it? Um, it's, uh, it's the Stone Dave theory. Like, go full screen. Yeah. I just made a little time ago. Oh, Bob!
44:48Oh, shit. Oh, shit. My name is Steve. Hey.
45:21Oh, my God. I'm Steve. Yeah.
45:30How dumb is that? Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, I fucked up. I fucked up. That's not Bob Seska. That's not the one he made for. Yeah. That's the different one. But that one's awesome. There's, who did that? Can you find out who made that? That's possible. It's because it's, that was on Comedy Central. It's when I told Comedy Central and then the video underneath of it said like... It was why the Stone Dave theory is bad. It was such a funny, it was on Comedy Central first of all, it's relaxed. The Bob Seska one now I'm a member was different. It had like aliens and laser beams. That was cool.
46:05Yeah, do you remember that one? No, this one was cool. Well, that was dope as fuck. That was not the one that I had anything to do with. That, but that's the term of Smekenis theory. He thinks that they just started eating mushrooms and figuring things out. How they're brainless. It's, it's, it's backed by climate science. Because that was at the time, there's a giant jump in human brain size over a period of like two million years. The human brain doubles, which is bananas, apparently. And so what it coincides with, tip tank, trip tank, trip tank, stone Dave theory. But is that just the website that has it hosted?
46:38I mean, it was a show on, oh, that was the show called trip tank. That fucking thing is awesome. But so he thinks that this, this time, this period of two million years, it coincides with these rainforests receding in the grasslands. And so the food sources change because then it's cows shitting in the grass and then they're looking for different things to eat. And they flip over cow paddies and find like bugs to eat. They've always done that. They think they ate the mushrooms too. They tried them. And when they ate them, they realize it makes them see better. It increases visual acuity and low doses.
47:12And it also makes you horny. It makes you like, it produces synesthesia, which is like, it helps cultivate language. And there's like, Dennis McKenna has the best descriptive of it. Because he's, you know, he's, Terence's brother, who's like this legit scientist of the genius. And the way he breaks it down, he talks about the way psilocybin interacts with the brain is really perfectly aligned with something that would make the brain grow if primates just kept eating it and evolved into what we are now. Like we might be a combination of like animal and mushroom. They say that from another planet.
47:48Joe, you can't eat them. I can't. As well as going to say there's so, for some, you say all these beautiful things it does, it makes your brain grow. What happens? It's the connective tissue of language. And if I eat them up, they're just grow. Like the texture and taste. Nothing to do with all the magic of them. Get candies. Get some macaws. No, that's what I'll do, like generally. But like it is funny. Nothing to actually throw them right back up on pure text. Nothing to do with the poison and the money thing. Yeah, I get dusty. I like them. They're good taste. They're good taste. If I could chicken gristle my mouth, I go gag over a trash can for five minutes.
48:21I like them just the straight mushroom because you know what you're getting to. You know, fucking around with some ground up pills that some hippie made. That's why I never understand like, Edibles to me. What was point one or one? I had a bit about it. Well, someone's made like a batch of like, you know, weed brownies or something. You go, well, what if all the weeds and how do you fucking possibly know that? Yeah, they don't. Each one's 30 grit. You had a bit about it. I'm around the one X2X3X this. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because I had a bit about the gummy bear. When the guy told me take just the leg.
48:52I go, what? I'm like, why the fuck are you selling whole bears? He is so ridiculous. They were so strong. You remember those gummy bear mottos? Yeah, they were strong. They were so strong. But that's what I was saying. If you're still going, is there possibly no weed in the arm? No, no, no, no. No, no, no. Those guys, they had it down. Those guys just were trying to kill you. Dude, I gave my brother one. I gave my brother one. He wasn't like from a legal place. And he came to me one day and I gave him like, he's like, get me, I'm like this one dude. So the next day, the whole family's two different families are coming over for like, pass over something.
49:25And the next day he's like, hey, did you take that gummy back? And I'm like, no, he goes, oh, shit, I can't find it. I'm like, dude, there's like eight, seven year olds in this house. If you have to find that gummy right now, it's really dangerous. Holy shit. One of the kids had it, he was hiding it. Oh my god, I could have been fucking back. Imagine if you just ate it. Yeah, thank God he was a little hoarder. Yeah, that's amazing what we, that's a nice way of calling this juice. I've never gotten the kind of high from like, Edibles or weed though, that's like, Edibles do not. I mean, I think almost no, I mean, do you remember when you gave Ralph Sutton, my co -host on SDR show?
49:59He's Louis's co -owner of guest digital. Ralph, he took one of the stars. Oh, he stars a death. That you gave him. Same thing. And he went home and was like, but the description of something where he was like, I felt like I was on a reality show. I thought there were cameras watching me and I'm like, from fucking weed. You ever see the video when Joey Diaz doses Owen Benjamin on the show with it? Oh, and Louis is the attitude. It was epic. Yeah, Joey made a video like I cracked them. Is that what set him into the woods? I don't need it. Maybe, maybe. Those are strong doses. Joey, look, there's a real thing with that.
50:38You know, Alex Baronson wrote a book called Tell Your Children. And it's all about instances of psychotic breaks and schizophrenic breaks from people that are heavy marijuana users. There's like a something that happens to some people where maybe they have a tendency to schizophrenic or maybe a tendency. I think of that. Yeah, dramatic. And then high dose of weed just pushes them over the edge. And I've seen it happen. I know people that have lost their shit. They're not the same. And they don't come back. They're not coming back. They're not coming back. Now, because most of them, they keep smoking it too.
51:11I know one guy who came back, one guy came back. One guy was like, I'm just watching the FBI's on my, I'm like, I'm going to go to a jar of fucking middle act. But he came back. He came back. He just stopped smoking weed for a long time. And he was one day like, wow, that was pretty crazy shit. Yeah, I can't get any more details. Yeah. But it was, he's all right. But I know, I know another guy who came back too. You've talked to Shane Moss about his like, that's what I was good at. That's what I was good at. I think 30 days, he did what every day? Mushrooms. Okay. And then he like covered himself with some mud that wouldn't let the mushrooms breathe out of them.
51:46And he went to another place. Yeah. I saw him way later and it was like, dude, I know this sounds crazy, but mathematicians are coming up to me telling me I thought I figured it out. I know, I realistically, I know, but, but I'm telling you these mathematicians are telling me I have all the answers. Oh, boy. Yeah. It was wild. He's back now, but like, talking to somebody who's disconnected is, it's also trying, it's very like, it's funny for a second. It's not funny, but it's almost like I'm using for a second how like out of it there. And then it's terrifying that could happen to someone's brain.
52:19Didn't Huberman just post something? Someone told me that, oh, Tulsi Gabbard told me this. Huberman just posted something about marijuana in high doses with kids is leading to an alarming number of like mental illness problems. Really? I can see that. They're not done developing. Yeah, I don't know what he wrote. I didn't read it. I was just, I had a couple of cocktails and I'm listening to a conversation. Oh, yeah. Did you guys smoke or do whatever when you were like still growing? No, I didn't. You didn't for sure, right? No, no. I mean, I did. I had a couple of, I liked over the, from age, you know, from teenage years to 30 years old, I probably smoked five times.
53:02No, but I mean like 12 just to type in teen. Nothing. No, I didn't do anything. Yeah, I mean either. That was the years that it was martial arts. So I very rarely did anything. I mean, if I had a beer, I felt guilty. It was my dad smoked pot and I thought that's why he didn't show up a lot. So, and so I didn't smoke pots. I was in my 20s and then drinking. I just, I had one of those like tried a sip young and thought it was so gross that I was like, I couldn't imagine. Yeah. And then also when you're young, you watch people get drunk and it's like that rookie drunk where I'm like, I'd rather not be that guy at the party.
53:36Right, right. We got to start teaching our kids at a drink right. It's an embarrassment every time. Well, it's a, it's a thing you do when you make things prohibitive. Yeah. You prohibit them. It's like Catholic school girls when we were kids. There were always the girls that like wanted to get with guys the quickest. They were just trapped in this world of all girls wearing skirts, no guys around them. And they got out there. They're like maniacs. Like everybody knows. Like that kind of suppression doesn't work on people. People don't like the end. They are the biggest slut. They come from that core group of people.
54:05And we can say it like that. I would say those young ladies are hungry for the car. That is the world. Gold stars are from that group. Have you ever seen the drinking that the, I think it's a website called Texas Street fights? Oh, well, no. And it's just essentially, it's always on where I'll start hip hop to. Sixth street is just chock full of gigantic women fighting until their fat guns come out. Oh, my God. And it seems like all the cops do is go in and like from a distance like pepper spray the group. So it's just these women fighting and ass cheeks out. And then you see like the spray like piss coming in.
54:47Girl fights. Girl fights. Look at the rest of them just eating just one of the eat their. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, Jesus Christ. I don't want to watch this man. It does really good. You don't. You should, you should the walk outside once and all that's happening. Is that six street gets wide about the front over by the, um, I don't like to buy the highway. I don't. I should like your head hits a pavement. It's not fair. I like the idea of them. And then it's very quickly like a reality check. We go someone can get fucked up. Yeah, really fucked up, man. Yeah, super dangerous. It's so dumb. Like, but energy.
55:20It's just booze. It's always booze. It's definitely coke too. Yeah, coke. Coke starts that shit. Let's not discount coke. Yeah, it's just fucking so dumb. But people just did it. When I was here, uh, it was from the tower last time we were at that burger plate, peteries, um, waiting in line. And they're like, that's a particularly the outside of that place. This is like a late night spot that it's just always drama going on. And there was like preppy white dudes in some kind of an argument with Latino girls. The girls, boyfriends were almost telling like the Hispanic guys were almost like, stop.
55:55It's like, leave it alone. Whatever the problem is. Yeah. Yeah. The dudes were kind of just over it. Like, who cares? And the lady just kept cursing out this like tall nerdy kid. Oh, no. And then Benchman over and he was just like, all right, like beat, you know, like shut up, like enough already. And she took her phone. And I mean, hit him. I've never seen something like that before. It was, uh, she hit him right across the forehead. And he was kind of like, it didn't seem like it hurt him that much at first. He was like, whoa, hey. And then you just saw the line. The blood. Like four meassar runs at you like, yo, she split him.
56:27Wow. And they drank it. And then, but this is what's it made. This is Texas, dude, which I love. While that's happening, we're like, oh, shit. Like number 68. We're on the Oreo milkshake. Oreo shake. They see it every weekend. Having a girl like that in your life can get you killed. My ex -wife, one of our early gates. He put in jail for killing somebody, like one of those guys. We went outside me and listed and Cantor were out there. And we saw a guy like holding a purse and a girl trying to wrestle it from him. And then Cantor's like, we got to say something. And so we went out there. We're like, man, we all right.
57:04She goes, my drone fucking business. And then, and then Cantor's like, dude, she's going to get you killed. And then we just walked back in. Yeah, you never, who said you should do that? I stayed in touch. Unless it gets violent. Unless it gets violent, I want, I'm not doing shit. Oh, there's the screaming and arguing because it's always not. I'm just, they'll go after you. That's what cops always said. Almost 100 % of the time. I was not over so much time. Almost 100 % of the time. Anytime you've been, I've, yeah, to be that guy. I don't, I don't think I've done it, but I've definitely watched it like backfire quick.
57:33It's fucking, I mean, we're, like, you know, like, hey, dude, I think the lady wants to be left alone. And she's like, fuck off. That's what cops say. Cop say when they show up, sometimes the women will attack them. We're fighting. Get out of here. Yeah, it's fucking scary. I was just, I was just wearing them out. I was getting ready to take the late ramps. They're, they're fucking minds. Yeah. And they fight with each other. Like, the cops always say that though it's the scariest thing is going to a domestic case. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's the most, it's the most emotion. Yeah. Both of them are fucking drunk.
58:05Someone's got a gun. Guy runs in the room. Yeah. You don't know what the fuck to do. You're a cop. You're standing there. The guy comes out with the gun. Oh, Jesus, fucking Christ. You shoot him. Like, what are you doing here? I think the fear of that situation. Yeah. Because they're so enraged because it was fucking wife. Oh, my God. And you're a cop. You got to fucking assess this like instantaneously. What the fuck? You know, you get some information from the phone. Yeah. Right? On the way in. The office tells you. Yeah. But once you get there, like, fuck. I lay everybody on the floor instantly every time.
58:35No matter what. Would you get on your fucking face? Get on your fucking face right now. It's really in them. That's really in them. Clear every room. And then we're like, all right. Now let's talk. Navy SEALS TALK. Yep. Exactly. Take no chances. Well, you kill a lot more people that way. They're doing that. Yeah, for sure. Because people would definitely like fight back on that. Yeah. Some people can calm people down. Some people can calm people down. I'm not that good. But some people you can't calm down. And some people, like, you can get into some guys on PCP. You know, the fuck you're doing on them.
59:02They don't give a shit. Yeah. You're not going to be able to calm down. Well, some people also want to die. There's that. And like, they want to die by cop. That's a real thing, too. Suicide by cop. Yeah. That's a real thing. It's grand. Yeah, they give it to you, too. Yeah. They like, okay, I mean, and for the cop, the cop's got to deal with that. I know it's funny. When I, I forget what it was I was watching years ago. It was a guy that was trying to do that. Suicide by cop. And they had, it wasn't even, we're like, in America, they had a sniper guy. Oh, Jesus Christ. Like a roof, like a rooftop away across the street or something.
59:40And he was describing like when the guy was holding the gun and he kept like, he just noticed that he mimicked emotion more than once. Like kind of naturally he kept doing the same thing with the gun. Like the fourth time he raised the gun up, he shoots the gun out of his hand. Oh, my God. And then the guy just goes and like, lays down. Oh, wow. Pretty wide. Oh, I saw that. That's insane. Yeah. But his, because his faith, he wanted to die. And his, but when that guy should have his hands, he just realized how he's like, holy shit. Yeah. What the fuck just happened? Yeah. You don't even know what you're asking for.
1:00:11That kind of skill is shot. That's crazy. He's a man as well to just try it. Yeah, there it is. Oh, that guy's prone to nice. Oh, Jesus, he shot it right out of his fucking head. What the, Mikey McCarranon? He looked like shot it right out of his hand. That's what that is. He looked like he was so lucky as fingers. He's lucky in every way, shape him. That guy should play the lottery right after that. Right? You're a lucky bitch. Yeah. It was dog's big beat dead. You shouldn't have any fingers. If it was dog the bounty hunter arresting him, he would have let him get some lottery tickets. He's like, do everything.
1:00:44Stop on the way home. He would, he would, he would hold their cigarette for them while they smoke. They can cuff. Oh, what are you really? Talk to him about God. He let him look at his wife's big fat titties. Big fat ones. It's the rest of the, the rest of the piece, those big fat titties. She's done. Yeah, I think he's already moved on to another chick. What do you want to do? Wait. Now she was on. First of all, she was awesome. How old is that guy? How old's dog? Six probably close to 70. Yeah, I mean, that's a hard life. You're fucking banging on doors, getting fugitives. Can't believe. Every day is a risk.
1:01:16I can't believe for the, let's say, class of people they were, that there's not a, there's not a loose picture of Beth Chapman's titties in the world at all. He's 70. The dude's 70. Look at this document. Look at him coming out. Look at him with his hair with the sunglasses. Oh yeah. What an amazing picture. Never let me in. I'm fucking hair. That is such an American person. Oh my lord. I mean, dog the bounty hunter might be the most American guy that's ever lived. Look at the gold chain hanging from the snacks. The oak leaves. The oak leaves. The flair chest. The bleach blonde long ass beautiful hair for an old dude.
1:01:51For an old dude, I mean, he's got some rocker hair from the 80s. Red skin. He's got some poison hair. Look at his skin. Let the leathery. Fuck your sunscreen. Wait, dog the bounty hunter. And now we've been touched on those sunscreens. It's got chemicals in it. That dude's just taken sun in the mug. What was the recent crime that he jumped in on, put his name out there? Yeah, what happened? Was it the potato? He's looking for the kid and who killed missing in Florida with the girlfriend. Oh yeah, yeah. The guy, the guy, the van life. Oh, the van life. The van life couple. They want to kill during kill themselves.
1:02:26But they just show news and it's just dog the bounty hunter knocking on doors with a piece of paper. Like, have you seen the he's just went solo boots to the ground? I'm going to find America somewhere where the cameras convenially knowing where he was. We'll find out what the odds that they know where he is. Just exactly in the middle of a city. What does he say he's knocking on doors? Do you know this guy goes? Yeah, everyone does. He's on the news.
1:02:52Yeah, that was a scary case. Which one was that? They got pulled over by the cops. Yeah. And they had been in some sort of a domestic squabble. Again, domestic fights, right? Squabble the grass. And something. I don't know what the details were of it, but the cops let them go. Well, in the rarest of situations. And then they did what? In the rarest of situations. They, I don't know. I don't think this happens a lot, but the girl was crying and telling her story and then the guy was telling his side of the story, like behind the things, the cops. And the cops were definitely more on his world of like, it's chicks, right?
1:03:29I mean, we're in small spaces. You know, they act and he's like, yeah, sure. I mean, they're not, I don't want to sandbag the cops and say, but it is like, for whatever is going on, she was hyper emotional and screaming and crying. And he was like kind of like, just bicker and about whatever, you know. And then they just stayed, let them go. And then what they do? Probably associate bath, right? Yeah. Yeah, he probably figured out how to con the cops and to be that killed. He killed it right after. Yeah, he killed her and then either he killed himself. It's hard to know because I think like the alligator's got to him.
1:04:00Oh, shit. I think, I think when they found his body, he had been consumed. Oh, yeah, he was all yours. Yeah, I think some things had consumed him. It might be pigs too. There's a lot of wild pigs out there, but the pigs lead everything. They'll eat your bones, man. They'll eat everything. If you leave a body, where the pigs are, that's the thing about snacks. We were friends with Psychologists. We sat on Tony, kill Tony yesterday. We asked him if that was a good way to kill people. He said, yeah, the means were described as skeletal. We're confirmed using dental records. Oh, Brian Longshade. That's a different one.
1:04:31That's the guy. That's the guy. That's the Brian Longshade. Yeah. That's the guy. So he was consumed. So it probably wasn't pigs. It was probably rats. Gators. He was found. Gators would swallow you whole. Yeah, good point. He was found dare I say through no help of dog, the bounty hunter. Yeah, remember they couldn't find them. There was a national man hunt on for him. Yeah. And he was just out in the woods or not the woods. The avargates are so crazy. Do you know the avargates 99 % of all the mammals are missing? Really? 99%. Yeah. Dude, I went, you know how when you're driving on the highway, you'll stop.
1:05:04There's a green belt or some hike or something. So I did that at a rest stop in Florida though, driving across the state. And to go into the woods, you have to open up a giant gate that's like 20 feet high, then up barrier, like the Berlin Wall, then another 20 foot high fence. And you go in, there's like a path and a sign. And it's like don't do this alone. There's fucking panthers everywhere. Jesus. So you have to be with somebody and then I just turn around and look. So they're probably thriving, but they need stuff to eat. Yeah. And the problem is everything's been killed by pythons. Pythons.
1:05:37There's a half a million pythons that are in the avargates right now. And there's also people who spotted Nile crocodiles. They don't think that Nile crocodiles are breeding pair. They think somebody might have had one and let it loose. And if that's the case, it's survived. But if they have a shoot on site, like if you see Nile crocodiles start popping. They get 20 feet long and they eat fucking zebras. Damn. I mean, those things are showing these things that are walking across golf courses and stuff. No, no, no, these are waste carrier because crocodiles will eat you. Gallagators will leave you the fuck alone for the most part.
1:06:11They could eat you. They might eat you if you're swimming. Right. But crocodiles will go after you. Like they eat people. Like crocodiles in Africa, the Nile crocodiles that we're talking about. My friend Jim Shockey, he's a professional hunter. They sent him to Africa to kill these crocodiles because they were killing so many villagers. Everyone in the village was like missing a hand. Is that one of the boat turns over? Those crocodiles and the boat and they just keep holding the boat down. That was the guy in a kayak. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was in some magazine. That's what it is. It's gone along and then it flips it over.
1:06:44Yeah, the crocodile swam up to the kayak, flipped it over and pulled him out of the kayak and swalled him whole. But what else legs were still in there? He's pulling it out. The kayak just keeps sinking. Like, has it been chewed alive? Bro, they are monsters. They are monsters. And here's the crazy thing. The pythons are such monsters that they're eating the alligators. Oh. Pythons, they found a dead python with a 12 -foot alligator inside of its body. Oh, I just saw that. Yeah. The nannis. Yeah, they are. I mean, I think thought it could be, I don't know how big the other one. I might have got a fight.
1:07:14It's a good place to get rid of a body of the glades. That's where those, who's got a walk by it? And who's walking by it? That's where those kids from that bully movie, like the true story of that, like they dumped in the Everglades. And the only reason they got caught was because they were young dumb teenagers who left the trail. They kept telling people. Oh, they kept telling people. They kept telling people. Like, one person would go, it goes, all right, don't tell anybody else, but like, we all killed the bully yesterday. Of course they did. And they couldn't stop telling. That's my favorite.
1:07:41That movie is made by that Larry Clark guy who makes all of the... Come on. Yes, like, come on. Those kind of Harmony Karin type guys. They make all those like shitty kid movies. And so it's the movie is made to be, it's very sexually explicit. Yeah. It's a very attractive cast. And then when you look into the story at all, and they show it, it's like a fat Samo. And everyone's like a Florida pig that they thought they were going to be. I'm like, what about these sexy kids? Fucking killing each other for. No. And they're just all just outcast awful looking people. Yeah, the ones that are out there.
1:08:16No other options. This is my friend group. That's so interesting. Michael Pitt was a character in that. That handsome little son of a bitch. Bees you Phillips. Rachel Liner. That's always weird when they, they have a movie. And you see what the real person looked like. And then you see them. Like, when, uh, what's the face? Catherine Zeta Jones played Jezel de Bronco. Yeah. Yeah. Jezel de Bronco, you know, the, the cocaine queen, that crazy bitch from, uh, the Godmother or whatever. Yeah, she was terrifying. And she was in those cocaine cowboys, documentaries. Yeah. When then you see Catherine Zeta Jones.
1:08:48Perfect. The fucking son playing her. How about they couldn't, they do that, that scream were just switches right at the end of blow. They couldn't with movie makeup. And all the time in the world, they couldn't make Johnny Depp as ugly as George Young. They couldn't, they just couldn't do it. He's doing everything. He's too perfect. So does somebody saw that movie theaters and they went to that picture of him. Somebody went throw Mama from the train. And then everybody does absolutely look like throw Mama from the train. Mama for Tally. Oh, really? That's great. Yeah, dude. He was really great.
1:09:22And again, he was gorgeous Johnny Depp the whole movie. And then when they got, um, that holiday to play monster, what's her name? Yeah, yeah. Charlize Thoreau. And do you think the rest of Hollywood is like, can you just hire one of the ugly ones? Why never have to hire the hot one? No one fights for the ugly people to get their roles. Why are in pretty's to play our roles? She has to get gross to do this. Who is it to put on the movie for the dark night for not the dark night, the Batman? The new Batman was Colin Ferrell. That handsome fella. He is the penguin. Yeah, to see what they did with him.
1:09:53What is he? He didn't like any, well, that's a good one. But Charlize Thoreau and actually turned herself ugly for that movie. Why not just hot? She's hot. So hot. She's hot as fuck. I've seen her in real life. She's fucking hot. And she decided to gain like a hundred pounds or whatever the fuck it is. And she brought Ferrell's off and made herself look like shit. What did I ask you to look up? Yeah, this guy said he played the penguin. Is a handsome fella. And they put some crazy shit on him and guided his hair and made his face prosthetic. Give him like a fat face. Like that's him in the penguin.
1:10:27I mean, don't look anything like himself. That's just prosthetics. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. At least the rangers did it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Big difference. Big difference. Those people that do that, like from a movie. One of the machinists, when he got became like an under -execit. Yeah. Damn. It's killing Tom Hanks. Yeah, so like does he have like bad diabetes and shit from doing that? From what? I think from like jumping up and down weights for characters. Really? Yeah. I heard you got AIDS and Philadelphia. No, that's not true. I got it. But not the movie. Just in the city. But that place is teeming with AIDS.
1:10:54Yeah. He had a bad cheese dig. It was influential. What is, uh, what were we just Googling? Oh, whether or not Tom Hanks really has diabetes. That doesn't make sense. It would say kidney problems maybe. Maybe it's that maybe. So I think as like says, health has been like, oh, he has a family history of diabetes. So he's always out of it. But did he go up and down for roles a lot? He would be thinner. Yeah, for sure. I mean, especially in his, he was a little older. I mean, he's like cast away and had to get like gone. Well, I know my comedy. And he's been like, happy. When McConaughey did Dallas, uh, buyer's club, he got fucked up.
1:11:31Yeah. That heard him. Yeah, that heard him. Oh, he had a hard time like, like recovering from that. Like, you're basically on death's door. You know, you're, you're letting your body eat itself. Yeah. That's what happens. People don't realize how scary that is. Like for a person to do that for a movie. Like for a movie. I know. So inconsequential, really. So crazy. Just to entertain people for two hours. Like, would homeboy did with the machinists, Christian Bale. He got to death's door, man. You ever see that? Oh, yeah, yeah. That was a wild one. He looked so bad. Yeah, it was crazy. He looked even worse than McConaughey did in Dallas, buyer's club.
1:12:05Yeah. But it seems he'd take a shirt off and it's all spindly like that. Yeah. But he came and played Batman like six months later. He got on the halls. Well, I mean, that was after American psycho where he was like, jacked. Jacked, yeah. But it's just that image of him in the machinist. Like that, that like was arms or split by like a bird. So in it. Below that. Yeah, that one. Like, dude, he looks like he's on death's door. Like, that looks like a person who's been starved in a concentration camp. Look at him. He must've been so proud of himself when he was doing that suck -in thing. He was like, it's very crazy to do.
1:12:37He seems to be okay with it. But like I said, I know McConaughey really got hurt from Dallas, buyer's club. He had a really hard time getting back from that. Damn. It's not a joke, man. Your body's eating itself. Like, to do that for a movie. So it's one thing to get fat. Like Mark Wahlberg got fat for a movie recently. Really? Yeah, he just ate like fucking 30 ,000 cows a day and he gained 30 pounds, big gut. But then he lost it again. So that's not good for you. But it's still probably better for you than almost dying of starvation. Yeah. I'd rather be that. Yeah. And that you could fucking with this.
1:13:13I mean, it's obviously very disciplined guy. He's going to lose the weight and get back. Also, he's not that bad. But it's not as dangerous. Does he have a third nipple? It's not good though. Does he? I think he has a third nipple. Let's see. Yeah. Yeah. It's a third nipple. No, I think it's a mullet you fucking. No, I think it's a third nipple. It's got the little white in the middle. Come on. It's a third nipple. This is a conspiracy theory. It's a conspiracy theory. This is a conspiracy theory that is unfounded. That's for sure. I bit looked it up, but I said I bit someone who said that before.
1:13:39Unfounded conspiracy theory. We have proof. We cannot have those. We saw the proof. This is what the original gun is. Does Donnie have the same third nipple? Is this a thing in the family? Is that what Wahlberg or something? That's a third nipple. It's got a third nipple. It is a third nipple. Did you already know it? Good. Fine. Wahlberg, third nipple. You knew. No. I saw it. You just saw it. Wow. Would you assume that a vain man would get that removed? Or maybe that's the best one to suck on? Ooh. The most sensitive. Yeah. Maybe that little one is wild. Yeah. Ooh. The god nipple. Ooh, I got a clit nipple.
1:14:11A clit nipple. Yeah. That one's the one. Just probably. It's like when the teacher put his thumb on their head and go to the exit. Just tweak that one nipple. Ooh. It does it have a... I wonder if a third one has nipple reaction like the tightening of the aerial and the loosening up. Yeah. You know what I mean? Why is it a total nipple? It's always this like left over. Right, like an extra finger is not like the biggest finger. The Danny DeVito nipple. You have two thumbs. Well, how would you know which one it is? Yeah. Wait, yeah. Maybe like, no, no. This is the fake nipple. This was my second.
1:14:45You know, if you lose a pinky, you lose like the majority of the power in your hand. Like a large amount. I think it's something like 50 % of the strength of your hand. Imagine how strong it'd be if you had all index fingers. All index in this finger. Like this is a bitch ass finger. Yeah, pinky to the finger. And it takes away the finger. This will bring work to all the fucking time. It's still weak as fuck. Look at this little bitch. Nothing. It's only good for making look at what you drink to. But these fingers are strong as fuck. Yeah. And that's like a magic of you at a hand of only these fingers.
1:15:15Yeah. Like, what is this pinky doing? How close are we to that? Like, is it, am I using that very often? Do I need a dainty? I can do dainty shit with these. Why do I have a dainty little bitch ass finger? It makes the base of my wiener feel thick. Huh? Okay. Use. Use. There you go. I just flew the brain out of this one. Is that so? The guys would jerk off like this. For the propagation of the stuff that they have. The taper down effect. Yeah. If you're a gentleman, you jerk off like you're drinking tea. You're a pinky out. Yeah. Remember, this is the worst social thing you could do by accident.
1:15:48I'm a pinky out. Oh no. You're friends with a chick. Lock you. We're sorry. Yeah. I think that might be just us. That might be a comedious thing. That's how you first get into it. If regular guys are drinking coffee, I bet they do this all the time. They don't even think about it. Yeah, exactly. They don't think someone's going to jump all over them. They mocked them. Why would that be a problem? The comedian Pete Dominick told me a story years ago in Vegas about, I don't know if it was somebody finding out that somebody else in the school jerked off different than everybody or him. Yeah. But it was like, we know the rumor, those bullshit rumors that go around every school.
1:16:22Some girl had a dog, eat her pussy and someone jerked off in school or something. This was the, whatever got caught jerking off in school, whoever the kid was. And when everyone was making fun of them, they're like, ah, you see Steve was jerking off in school and said one kid was like, yes, Steve, you did it. You were jerking off. And he goes, that's when everyone just goes like, hang on Steve. Wait, what is he doing? What is this knuckles up thing you're doing? You fucking weirdo. That's how you find out he goes, oh, you guys are jerking off. What is on top? One second, bottom and the next second.
1:16:59It's hilarious. Isn't that funny that we'll judge someone on the method they used to jerk off? Yeah. Like you're out of the group. How weird is that? How weird is that this bothers you? Yeah, because you don't jerk off with anybody. Why should it even matter? It seems like hyper aggressive. I've seen it in pornography and it bothers me. And I say he's doing it wrong. It's just the truth. But if it works, that was the truth. Exactly. To get you there, I'm like, nah, you don't even know the sweet pure pleasure of going the other way. It's like a guy's got an unorthodox pitch. Yeah. Or also though, he might like his pressure low.
1:17:35Because again, we're talking about the pink you can't burst the red thing. No, just lay off. How low are we talking about? I feel like if you're doing it this way, you're more fucking a hole that's empty on the other side. Where you can fuck the full pussy of your fist, the other direction. You can also just be rubbing the dick against your hand. No pressure. For a slow. It's crazy. No, what you're doing is crazy. Like you're cradling it. Yeah, you're cradling. That's what rock the cradle I was about. I've heard stories of guys who's like their jerk office have their slow to fuck their own thigh and bed -based.
1:18:09No, no, no, don't do that. That was me when I was little. I would just rub it against my jeans. Don't do that. Because I have the restrict act. They're going to get us for spending bad information. That's bad information. What if they take away that? Yeah. Imagine that fucking act passes through and they go through old podcasts. Oh boy, I'm fucked. Everyone's going to jail. Yeah. If you said anything negative about it, and they can't do it. Anything negative about the government. Because it's still up, so it's still doing the thing. Yeah, the whole thing is spooky, man. It's spooky that they just keep wanting more and more control.
1:18:37It's just like we were talking about with cult leaders. Yeah. Like it starts off, they're kind of okay. And then after a while they go crazy. And then they push it to see how far they could do it. I think that's a pattern with human beings. You think that's a pattern in the government? I think that's a pattern in cults. How many centuries do that when they were like, hey, this material? We own the material forever. Not just the recording. And then you'd have to go, no, I'm like, okay, what we had to ask. Yeah, try. Yeah, and it's like, why even try? Yeah. Well, the problem is you're an artist.
1:19:04And when you mix art with business, stuff gets very very slippery. I hate it. I don't know how to do any of it. Business. Yeah, you're pretty much. Useless with that. Yeah, but it's also one of the reasons why you're so fucking funny. Yeah, I think that's, it all goes together, man. I don't think those people that are like really good at crunching numbers are the funniest folks. You should have seen that. It was like, Jay, I need your notes on this edit. And he's like, okay, well, I've got my, see my daughter tomorrow. So I'm like, Jay, put it on and watch it now. I did not want to watch it. Oh, my God.
1:19:43I don't know how to do anything. I do not want to watch it. Sometimes on the edits, it doesn't matter now. It's out now. And I've seen it and I'm very happy with it. But still, it's time to go. We need your notes on the edits and I'd go. And then I'd go to click the email and I'll watch it again. And I would see Ari's copious notes. His wonderful notes. And I would go, I just, I'm almost one at random. I go, I don't know how I feel about his third note, but I pretty much agree with all. I was going to write, call you guys, but it's all pretty much that. Yeah, let a friend edit it. That's a good move.
1:20:14He did eventually. So there's a good editor. Let a friend edit it. Yeah, we got caught in edit it. Not a bad idea. He was like, everything you say when he'd go, I don't know about this and I go, sure. Then you know better than I do. Like, let's do it. Yeah. Well, we set the club up so that you could film there all the time. We set the club up so it's there's three angles in every room. There's been a lot of specials. Yeah, that's the goal. The goal is like to let people, like, look, everybody knows now and Ari, you're a great testament to that. You need one fucking bang and special on YouTube and then you're off to the races.
1:20:46People can see it. Everyone hears everybody on podcast. My egger says this. You introduce a friend on a podcast. He always really funny guy, really funny guy. And then you're at home going, can you prove that? Is there any proof of that out there? Well, at a certain point they trust you. Like, I've never lied once. Like, I've had a lot of people that I really, I like them, but they're just not that funny. I just can't, I can't help you. Yeah. You know, it's like whatever it is. But when you put out a thing and doing comedy as long as I have is seeing somebody, it's not fun. Who's seeing somebody, especially when you like them and like a friend, you're like, oh, I don't know if you have like the basic, no.
1:21:21Like, because even people, I said, what? Like, have it. Well, a good example. I've been doing comedy longer than Lewis and Dave from Skanks. And like, but when I, when I was like, you know, whatever eight years in and they were just starting, yeah, someone's going hard. I'd watched them. Well, there was eight years. I'd watched them and they would like, they were very, they were funny on stage, but it wasn't like they, I saw with like their lack of experience wasn't it, but I could see right away. I'm like, now you guys have like, you know what you're doing. I wasn't worried about them. I was like, you guys are going to be fine.
1:21:55Like, you're, you're a very funny guy. I don't know what level they go to necessarily, but I was like, you'll be around comedy though. You're not a nerd to tick. Yeah. And then there's some people where you're like, man, I love this guy. Then you watch them and you go, oh, zero chance. He's such a nice person. There's a bunch of those hurts. It's unfortunate, you know, because sometimes you become friends of them before you see their set. Yeah. And then you see them and they want to come on your podcast or they want to, you know, hey, you know, I know you're doing a show and Minneapolis. I'm actually from there.
1:22:25I'd love to open for you like. Yeah. We got a problem. I know you got to go. I've got just books and more. You got to scramble. No, no, no, no, no. You kind of have to have a real conversation with them. Otherwise it's going to keep coming up, but you got to kind of figure out a way to say it in a way that's, yeah, fortunately, I haven't had to do that too many people. Yeah, I'm not that person. It's not even just a take it. Yeah, I mean, I'll absolutely take it. I didn't, I never asked someone if I could go with them on the road. I never did. And all the guys that I took on the road with me, I asked, you know, I asked, I was like a door man.
1:23:00You would be like, you know, like he was a dude that I knew at the club that was just starting out and I knew he had potential. Like we would, I would see his late night sets and every now and then he'd hit a spark. And I'd be like, it was just like you were figuring it out. And then I took you to Denver one time. That was my first road thing. Murdered. He was a first time. Ari was ever in front of 350 people who were so happy to see a show. He was like, what the fuck is comedy? And he murdered. He murdered. That's a high bar set. It was fun. Yeah, I would show it up a comedy work. It's my first show.
1:23:39Like, oh, they won't be as good as this. Well, you had been running with weights on, right? Because you did it during those late night spots. Yeah. If you're a beginner and you're going on after like five killers in a row, like that, the audience just leaves. Like big chunks of them leave. And you get this like dead sort of. Oh, all of my. Yeah. All my New York chops are. I followed David Tell. I said, I followed David Tell to comedy seller for 10 years. There are 12 years straight. Every night. What could it do? That's the only way. But it's funny. You almost say the same thing. It was like a tell asked me if I wanted to go on the road with him and start doing stuff.
1:24:14And then he would call me to. Wow. Yeah. That would feel weird to go. Right. Hey, can I do whatever? I would ask. No fucking way. You can't ask. Someone will ask you. It's like if you ask, it becomes a thing. And now, now someone's not hiring you because they want to. They're hiring you because you asked. Yeah. You know, I mean, it's not like we don't know your professional comedian. You know, you know, if you ever need anybody as a buddy one. But I mean, like, you know, I can't find a comic. What do you mean if I ever need to? You also also work the John Carden's a comic from here in Austin who he was in Phoenix before this.
1:24:46And he's open for me one time there. We've never lived in the same state or anything. But he's on the road with me a ton. And we just, we just checked like that weekend. Yeah. He does a killer job. I'm happy to promote him. So like, it's like going on vacation with someone. You don't want to, you want to, I want to go on vacation with you. Yeah. Go on vacation. We're going to have a good time. Yeah. You and I just went to Maui and just fucking drank peanut colladas and fucked around the ocean. We'd have a great time. We'd have laughs all day long. But not all comics. Like some comics you went to Maui with you.
1:25:14Like, yeah, man, I'm going to go to the gym. Can you be in your room watching fucking Netflix? Because we're in paradise going, ugh. You know, like some people you don't want to talk to. We was angry for four days and we did a show. Yeah, we had a great fucking time with it. Fishing, we hung around. We did fun show, though. It was fun show. I think we had two shows. Maybe two in one night. Yeah, two in one night. We waited in a, no, it was another place. We waited in a turned out bus. Yeah. In which we had shows. It was dope. They were like robust people. Like I was impressed with them. Like everyone had character.
1:25:46It was very interesting. It was very wild. Like the level of character that the average guy has. Like the level of character that the average guy has. It's like nothing is in anchorage is above normal because they're around fucking moose and bears and it's frozen half the year. They all carry candles in their car. Yeah. Because if it goes off, they got to like that. Like it's in candles. You keep blankets and candles in your car. Those. I used to go out to, I was one of the first places. No, no, no, no. Fuck, dude. That was one of the first places that Choku Charlie's out there that would headline me every year.
1:26:14So before I was almost doing anywhere in like the lower 48, I was like, like a regular there. Like every year I would go, they would have me. I love that play. I love it. The chaos of that particular place, Choku Charlie's was in sync. He was like a powder keg that never went off. It was a hip hop room, an electronic dance club upstairs. Downstairs, like a honky -tonk band. And then they have another room that might have like a pretty big, actually like metal band. I think God smack and play there at one point. It's like a couple hundred people. And it was, looked like a log cabin from outside, like very unassuming.
1:26:51One of my favorite guys I ever interviewed on the show is this guy, John Reeves, who owns a place called the Boneyard in Alaska. And this place in Alaska is this one spot that for whatever reason has tons and tons of bones. Giant woolly mammoth tusks, they've found animals from that area that weren't even supposed to be living there. These different fucking lions and cats and bears and all these, I mean, insane amounts. And it's a small area. It's just a few acres. And he's got other areas on his, he has an enormous property. He's like a mining guy. He's very wealthy but like down to earth, like a regular dude, smoke cigarettes on the podcast, he's fun fucking dude.
1:27:36So he tells a story about how they dumped a bunch of fossils in the East River because they didn't have any storage from them. Fossils that came from his land. And so he was trying to get it back and he got all these paper work that shows where it was dumped. So then he gives it out to the internet on the podcast. So then these guys start swimming around in the fucking river in the East River. And one of them finds a stepbison jawbone. So it's proof that some of that stuff did get into the East River. At least that piece did. So this guy finds it diving, looking around the bottom of the East River and that fucking toxic river.
1:28:13It's his. And they pull out this thing. So he pulls out this thing. It was, lips are exposed and that shit. Yeah man, his lips. Well he had the scuba thing on before. So he's got the thing that goes on his mouth. He took it off when he got out of the water but that's a stepbison jawbone. That's crazy. Yeah so that means. That means. I would be like, well that's a piece of it. This is money. It looks like when you see the full version that lady has it in her hand. So what does that mean? That's what it looks like when it's fully connected. So that was a deceased bison's jawbone. So they have a shit ton of those out in this boneyard.
1:28:53And this is something that they found in the East River. So what his story, its story, it seems at least to be proof correct. That someone at one point in time dumped a bunch of these like priceless fossils in the East River. Because they just didn't have any storage. And like the 1930s was it, was it something like that? It was like the 1930s. Well I thought it was much later after some reason because you haul bill was up. No, I think that's it. I think that's it. They didn't even understand like they got up, we got a bunch of these fucking dump them. They didn't understand how crazy it was what they had.
1:29:25One of the times I was in Alaska they took me and Dave Smith actually to the like animal preserve area out there by the glaciers. And I'll tell you what, being a person who really mostly saw like wild animals only in a zoo before the animals there while majestic are very pretty worse for the wear. Like you see a moose, it's not like a beautiful like it is you know the ones that but when you get up to them there's like scabs like real like that like they've been in a fight or something. Yeah they were nursing an eagle back to health. Yeah like real wilderness animals are like fucking they're living a life.
1:29:58They don't live long either man. Yeah it sits around all the time. Did you see that video of these two dirt bike riders? And one of them fucks up and rides his dirt bike past a bear's den. No. And doesn't realize it until the bear comes charging out of the den at him. No. Oh my god. Let me find it Jamie. You got it. You got it. Look at that. Jamie. I'm fucking out of the way. Look at this. Barrow. Are you fucking kidding me? Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh we crashed him right there. Yeah look at this. Holy shit. Oh my god. That guy ripped his engine and that's probably what scared it off.
1:30:43The buddy's video is dead. Dude that is death. Wow. That is death. Oh you know how fucking terrifying that was. I was like when they show that like people that have been hit by like tiger claw. I saw a video the other day it was like family was attacked by maybe it was a panther or something. It were a boomer or something like that but like it looks like when you switch when you see this. It hits they're always just it almost looks like they're playful playing with you but the yes from like a powerful. This is a tiger would just rip your face entirely off. It's like Tyson trying to pity Betty.
1:31:11You don't understand. You literally don't have any weapons. They have weapons on every hand and they have their faces of weapon and their bite strength is so superior to yours. You couldn't even imagine it and there's so much stronger pound for pound than we are. And you're just playing defense. You're not trying to win. You're trying to survive. Did you ever read your house cat that like you have a situation with. He starts swinging it. I had a house cat that was feral. Yeah. And I had to get him fixed because he was pissing in my house. It was one of those things. He was just spraying all over my house.
1:31:44He was feral. I got him when he was a kitten. So like a friend she found a bunch of them underneath the apartment building and her and her boyfriend gave him out to people and I took one of them. So I had this kitten and I had a like literally I had to stay with it. It was like for several days alone in one of the bedrooms in my house to get it to be comfortable enough with me to let me touch it. I would go near it and hiss at me. Climb the fucking drapes. It was wild. Why did you take it home? Because I was like I was committed to this. I was like I want to make this workout. I'm going to make this workout.
1:32:14And so these cats like when they start pissing in the house you have to get them fixed because now they're going to do that all the time. And I had to get them right when he first started doing I saw him do it. He lifted up his ass and he sprayed all over my bathroom like you little motherfucker. My purpose. So I call my veterinarian and he says how feral I go he's fucking crazy feral. I go I'm the only one who can pet him and he's like oh my god. He's my friend. Yes. Dr. Craig he was the shit. And so he goes you're going to have to capture it. So I got it in the bathroom and it's hissing at me and jumping on the counters like it knows I'm doing something.
1:32:50And so I throw a blanket over this fucking and I wrap him up in a blanket and I put him in a a hamper and I take him to the doctor. And I'm like good luck. And so you can have the hamper in the back. And he in good luck. He calls you know calls me when the operations over because it was right downstairs for my house. How did I do it? I go there. I go how did you do it? He's like we we managed it was not easy. He's like Jesus fucking Christ. I go I know he was a fun guy. He was like Jesus fucking Christ. I go yeah he's he's feral. But I can pick him up. I can pick him up and he would per. Are we okay?
1:33:27Like per louder than any cat ever perred. Like so happy that he was okay. He was safe. Like programmed in his mind when he was a bitty bitty tiny baby. Was like the world is a scary place for a feral cat. The world is a scary place for this. You still have the cat? No he's dead now. But became completely domesticated. Not really. It was only me. Yeah it was it. Everybody else. No one else could touch him. Wow. I could go up to him and go come on man. Come on man. And I pick him up and he'd be alright. Like you even look at me like tense up when I would come near him. But he knew like come on man.
1:34:00Come on man. I pick him up. Like the purring was so loud. It was like so appreciative. Like it was like sobbing love. I'm a new pet person. I never you just got the first dog gave a shit ever. And I never it was they didn't understand but I definitely didn't have a full grip on when people were like what even when I already got a dog I remember when I already first got a dog and shit about my dog. No you don't bring him don't put him in the back seat. You care more about the hair. A lot of hair. I still care about the hair with my own dog. It's a thing. Well my dog is a golden retriever. It's fucking crazy here.
1:34:32It's everywhere. Yeah. Always everywhere. The summer. It's I'm changing on that and getting much less caring. Like wake that up. You just got a Russian. Yeah. It's not a Russian. It's so worth it. It's just say it's it's so worth it is what the thing is but it took took us a couple months me and the dog to get like it was never that I thought the dog was all from the cutest dog. I loved it but for the first couple months I was like I think we made a mistake. Yeah. Yeah. You shit everywhere. You shit. Yeah. I was like I don't think I was prepared for what this was going to be. You have a bad dog too.
1:35:06He didn't come to barbecue. He's always be up there with a hot dog in his mouth like in the fuck. Look go down and you tie him up. How long was he around and he like get up on just to get some fucking nuts. How old was was she when that was six months. I can't do that. She's like no. She's a little over one now but like even now she's like comic that she's great. Yes but it's fun. I never had that kind of like feeling with animal before. Yeah. It's totally different but imagine asking a six month old child to figure that out. Oh my god. You would they can't get on to the table. That's the thing is that the dog's incredibly agile.
1:35:38Yeah. The dog's six month old. Yeah. Yeah they're fucking awesome. I'm trying to fucking cook. I'm like the grill. Literally on the grill and he's jumping up trying to get it. But wouldn't you. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody loves you. You're a puppy. Yeah. But do you think that that's yours? I mean she loves you. That's fucking hot dog smells like something like. Imagine when a hot dog smells like to a dog. Yeah. Hot dog smells good to you. Imagine when it smells like to a dog. It must be unstoppable because dog food doesn't smell good. It does not and they get one of those. It's not a lot. It's a great task.
1:36:07But I tell you what I bought. So they started opening dispensaries now in New York. Yeah. And then when I was that when I was in line, they got CBD dog treats. And you dog. And I mean it's so I would take them away now a little bit more because it's addictive to me how fun it is. Because you can give her this thing. If you give her a whole biscuit which is by the way the servings you give them a like just like a dog treat. There's a little bone or whatever. She eats. She takes it like a ritual. She takes it over to a certain spot and like chomps on it, drops some of it, picks it up, goes and then you're almost like she doesn't seem like anything.
1:36:44And then 15 minutes later she starts aimlessly walking around the living room. And then it's just a drop out into sleep wherever she's at and just like down there. And like if you try to wake up like, hey Dawkins, she's like she really does like the one eye like the blood shut off. Like it happened. What? And I'm like, that's shit. I've never seen something that works so much. It's amazing. I wonder if it's what how it affects them. They're just chill. I know. And if she stayed and by the way, she stopped falling asleep so that's why I said I was pulling them away because she's going to just not fall asleep.
1:37:17She's getting used to she's staying awake but she's being loopy. You know what I mean? Just looking at you weird. It's very it's hilarious. But like dogs can definitely get high. Yeah, for sure. You know how I know because you remember my dog Lucy? I think so. It was the dog that I had. Those are rescue dog for some friends of mine. They found this dog that was eating out of garbage cans and they said she's so sweet but she's covered in mange. So I said, oh, okay. You even go hunting for your dogs. And I just went. No, it was like somebody called me up with a terrible sob store. They know I'm a pussy.
1:37:49And so I had to see this dog and she's so sweet. And she has mange all over her body and so I took her in. And just feeding her like within a short amount of time the the mange like completely went away. She was a great dog. But one day Joey Diaz and I were doing bong hits in my office. And the dog was under the desk. And I didn't think about it. We were just there's actually a photo on the internet of Joey with a sleeveless shirt on. Holden like a big handful of weed. It's from that day. So you even find that picture because it's a famous picture. That's the picture. That's me and Joey. That's me and Joey in my office doing bong hits.
1:38:34I bought like a ounce of weed. So look at that. That was back when I was buying weed from the dispensary in Irvine or in... Oh, fuck. And there's like two of them. What was the... It was a bad neighborhood. I'm trying to remember the neighborhood. God damn it. I forgot. I'll remember. I'll remember. But so that was the day. So we got there and gotten just fucking barbecued. And the dog was underneath the desk. And then she was so sketched out afterwards. I was like, you okay? But she had all this trauma for when she was young. And she was homeless and eating out of garbage cans and shit was dreaming.
1:39:09It's not drugs again. I guess like... That was the shit. It all came back. But I guess dogs like that are probably terrified. They're going to go back to that life. Right. It's not getting paranoid. Right. You're terrified you're going to be on the street again. Why do you bring the friend over? Yeah. It's got to be the take me away. But imagine a dog not having any idea why all of a sudden it's like hyper freaked out about everything. Yeah. The senses in general I've never witnessed before. I'm blown away by like she... Like friends of ours who have dogs that she like is with a lot. If we're like, like Justin's house.
1:39:40Yeah. He's got a dog they play all the time. If we're blocks away but in the area of... Like Justin. She perks up. Like like the dog. And I know what it is. It seems like an impossibility but she tends to seem to like recognize from a car just like being down in the car. Yeah, they know it. Not seeing like from smell or something she's like pops up like we're near that dog. That's wild. That is wild. Yeah. I mean I don't know how else she could possibly... You know what I mean? She's like down. They have a pretty crazy coincidence. Weird connection with people. Yeah. It's very weird. Bandit let us the sales front door from the elevator after six months gone.
1:40:16When she wasn't even, she was six months old to a year old. And then remember where it sounded. She smelled it. Dude, my dog cuddles with me when I watch TV sometimes. Like he lies next to me and he puts his head on my chest. Yeah. And I sit there and pat him. And it's like you're watching like a nice show and you have this beautiful love moment with this animal. It's crazy. It's just so sweet and all they want is just to be loved and to love you. You just lean up and give me kisses sometimes. I feel like always knows moments. It's the best. It's the best. It's the best. Sometimes you gotta pay, you're like, oh I gotta stay here.
1:40:51She's right on me. I find always those moments while I'm petting and I go, you are the best decision we ever made. You are the bit. Oh fuck, she bit through that leather chair over there. They're all the same. What would you buck through that leather chair? When their properties are scary thing is like extension cords. They get nervous. Oh yeah, when they go for wires. They bite an electrical cord and get electrocuted. Whoa. Yeah, that's fucking scary. That happens to dog sometimes. I never had that. Yeah, you gotta be careful with those little fuckers. They don't know what to chew and what not to do.
1:41:19And you gotta give them things to chew. That's very important. You gotta give them chew toys. Toys to bite on. Yeah, they have to be animals still. Because my dogs are a retriever. He brings over a toy when he comes to say hi. Like if someone comes over the house, he runs and gets his toy. I gotta get a toy. He always has to have a toy. He brings a toy to say hi to everybody. It's hilarious. I thought I was the way dogs play with each other also. I thought I was gonna have like enemy after enemy on the street. But like two people barely giving a shit. Like me smoking a cigarette and some guy on the phone.
1:41:51While we just look away, let our dogs like, it only looks like fight to the death. Yeah, that's like, they're playing like them. I'm like, is everyone okay with this? And you don't have to talk to the other person. It's crazy. He just goes like, oh, hey, our dogs gonna smoke those buses and whatever. And just let it happen for a minute. Some dogs you guys would be careful though. Yeah, there's a lot of people with pit bulls that will fight dogs. Oh, they'll fight dogs when they get close to them. They don't even know why. Just at an instinct. Even if you train them the same way. You have to have like a really trainer to curb that.
1:42:24Do you remember the, when you there went the girl from the, there was a waitress at a comedy club who got a rescue dog. Like a pit bull. And then one of the other waitresses went over there. Like her friend went over there to like, meet the new dog and everything. And like, she said the dog was the sweetest dog. You know, she had her for whatever couple days. And like, this figured her for a lot. No, yeah. I mean, she's a gorgeous girl. And she got handled. She, it was handled pretty well. She's still a gorgeous shit. But I mean, like, it's definitely. Oh, my God. But I mean, it affected her forever.
1:42:56And it was like, yeah, wilds. Like, like, like, emergency plastic surgery. Well, you know, Whitney's always adoptin wild dogs. Those dogs are humongous. It's like me, my dog's like, put them away. Whitney got like half her ear bitten off once. What? Yeah, she goes, how a dog didn't even me do it. It's like, they didn't know what they're doing. They don't know their strength. Like, yeah, that's a proper ear off. That's a issue. But she kept the dog. Now she's in the horses. She got it stitched up. Oh, she's always been in the horses. Is Annie cocked? That lady. That lady loves dogs. She loves dogs.
1:43:27She's always got a bunch of rescue dogs she's taken care of. She like foster dogs and then gets up, finds them homes and shit. Can I just say speaking of rabbit dogs? Yeah, that's her after she got her ear bit off. Oh my god. Yeah. But they put it back on. But they sold it back on and I'm fine. She's so crazy. She's so full of the tech. She's a full losing. Isn't she? She's at the mothership this weekend, isn't she? I think she is. Oh, yeah. I just saw, we said the premiere for the, uh, she produced the birthright roach. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. Yeah, she's, that's wild. She's not lady. She's not fucking, I was stating this yesterday too.
1:44:02She's getting to know her more lately in the last few years. Like she's a boss chick to run. She really runs shit. She's an impressive person. Yeah. She's an impressive person. Very impressive. Yeah. She's smart as fuck man. Maybe too smart. She's like one time I was, I was having a conversation with her like out of nowhere. She calls me up. She goes, um, I'm producing a documentary on violence. What the fuck are you doing? Like what are you doing? How do you have to say that? How do you have time for this? Yeah. She told me about that wild Italian thing that they do like once a year, where it's like MMA mixed with like sock like rugby.
1:44:39What? Have you seen that? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. What is it called? Cherokee or something? I forget the name of it. It's some weird. It's a big gang fight. It's a big gang fight. She's going to see it. And she told me about this. She's like, have you heard of this? I go, no, what is this? And so she was doing a documentary on violence. And, uh, this was one of the subjects. It was MMA fights and this stuff. So it's basically, it's like some kind of a ball game, but they beat the fuck out of each other. Yeah, Calcio. Yeah, that's what it is. Calcio, uh, Calcio's historical. That's it. I don't know if I'm saying that right, even though I'm Italian.
1:45:15But these guys just beat the fuck out of each other, man. They throw down bare knuckle. They throw leg kicks and shit. I mean, it's their Elysemania. And I don't think there's anybody that stops the fights either. I just let it go till it knock out. I think they just, you know, decide not to kill each other. Oh, look at this. Oh, but there's something they said there's a game to it and then the game stops and a fight starts. Yes, this is wild, man. Look at that. Everybody's holding somebody down. Yeah, they hold them down. They're beating people up from the mountain. And there's so many of them.
1:45:43Look how many guys are on the field. And look, that guy's in full guard down there. And there's another guy. Oh, got a guy inside control. Wow. This is crazy. So I found out about this from Whitney. This was called you would think that I would know about that. That was cool. Yeah, exactly. I mean, that's like essentially. That was called smeared the queer in a photo. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, kill the cow. Kill the cow. Kill the, you ever do a hug the queer? Obviously, kill the cow hurt more if I was holding the ball. Kill that cow and shut up, guys. Yeah, sensitive. Smeared the queer. I'll be the queer.
1:46:18Do you ever do hug the pole in like 21 or something? Or if you lose, you have to hug the basketball pole. And it makes the whoever won gets to whip the basketball at your ass. No, we had a game called suicide. That was like a wall ball -based game. But it was like something like if the ball touched you and you didn't catch it. It's tennis ball always. You had to run to the wall and like touch it and say suicide. But while you were making until that happened, everybody else could pick up the ball. And we're just trying to sing it at you as hard as they could. And then if you, if you pushed out and said if someone called you out for like saying suicide before you touched the wall, then they got a free peg, which we did the stand like a firing line.
1:46:58And I'll tell you, the fear is like, we had some, there was some Randy Johnson like sidearm guys. And it was almost worse when it was missed because the fear when you'd hear like the air being split, is it like zips by your head and just misses you? It's nuts. Jesus Christ. Philly, there's no internet yet. Crazy fucking people. Our porn was all analog back to this. If you could go back and get those guys that were on the skyscrapers, building those skyscrapers, eating lunch, remember those guys? The blacker? The blacker? Yeah. If you could get those guys and drop them off in a tech conference in 2023, they would probably like, what the fuck happened to men?
1:47:39Oh, what is this? You didn't even care about that. Imagine, imagine if you just like transported those guys to the future, like essentially a hundred years. The concept of someone wears a suit every day and it's like, what is wrong with you? Just looking at these guys with their pronouns on their badges. What the fuck happened? Oh, yeah. He, him? No, that's gone. They've been for sure. We're talking work. Roger with the man face and the man body has he, him and his badge? Yeah, I believe it. Everybody's doing this now? They'd be like, what is? What the fuck happened? Also electricity. Also like, you know, how can you guys have so much food?
1:48:15But they have a lot of food. But these will blow their mind. Yeah. Look at this guy. You've seen this guy in the 1980s? What? Yeah. I'll be still. Look at this motherfucker. Wow. Wow. Bro. Watch, watch, watch when he comes down. That's what's even crazier. Watch this. He's shimmies down, bro. No, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, watch this. This isn't the 1980s. What? Look at this. I'm having a half -brown. Guys, I'm athletes. I have a physical reaction to this. You should have a fucking physical reaction. Like, I'm saying my legs feel like gummy when I watch this. I'm just floating out. Bro, this guy's in animal.
1:48:51He's a fucking animal. Look at him. The strength and the skill, along with the courage to be up there where one fuck, look at him. Climb, dude. Are you fucking shitting me? Are you fucking shitting me? Jesus Christ. This guy's a construction worker. He's like an athlete. Look at him. Wow. I don't know if you should... He's a climbing athlete. He's got a fucking tool bag on, dude. He's doing this while he's got a tool bag on. This is insanity. How does this guy practice? Here's my question. Because you can't just get good at this on the job. You ever see it go bad? How many guys would die? Yeah, they do.
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1:57:50I think you used to shave in your whole head, bro. I think you used to shave in your whole head, bro. I think you used to shave in your whole head, bro. Yeah, he never really did. He was just like, oh, about being gay. Yeah. Well, in the era that he came up, you got to remember, like he was one of priors guys. He was one of priors writers. And, you know, like he was a writer. He was a writer. Yeah. Yeah. He was a great comic. Yeah. I mean, he really was. But I don't think he ever got his due. No, white people didn't know him. I didn't know he was still comedy. Yeah. We always, like, he was the guy at the comedy store.
1:58:28Like, when he would go on stage, like, especially after something happened, he always had material on it. Really good material. He always was like, anytime some shit went down, Paul Mooney wrote something. And he would go, he had a bit about the spirit airlines crash. No, it wasn't spirit airlines. It was some janky airlines that crashed into the swamp. Yeah. And he was talking about this woman clutching her purse while alligators eating her. And it was such a fucking, it was such a funny bit, man. It was, it was like right after it happened. Like, right after it happened. And he set it up. It was masterfully the way he set it up.
1:59:05So it was just laughing at these victims. It was so good. But it was like, it was so good. It was right after the tragedy. So you know, I mean, you know, whatever you feel about tasteless jokes after tragedies. The fact that this guy went up and did that, like, a day later. And it was funny as fuck. It was really funny. Do you think he didn't get his due ultimately because of his personality? How do you think his personality developed because of not getting his due? I have no idea. Because he was a pretty bit, I've met him several times and even done shows him at carolines years ago. He was never very nice at all, like in almost any way.
1:59:41Moody has a crust that you have to get through to get his trust. And once you get his trust, he is very kind. You had to compliment him. I still haven't talked to an HBO guy in the past. I said just that, man. It wasn't just that. He had to respect you. You know, it was like you, you know, Moody was like, you've been around a long time. He's seen a lot of shit. He was a part of Richard Pryor's Golden Age. And now here he is in the year 2005, hanging out with me and Ari. Yeah. I saw a long time. He saw some guy from HBO and he's like, Paul, how you been? Just the fucking fake, like all of them.
2:00:12And he goes, how you been? I've been good. How about you? Wasn't even playing pretend. And he was just like, he just kept going like, yeah, we're going to do something. It's all due. And he goes, yeah, he goes, he goes, I got to get you know, but I don't have a pen. Do you? No, motherfucker, I don't.
2:00:35When that guy liked you, like, it was a badge of honor. Yeah. Like, he was laughing the back of the room one time when I was on stage. That's pretty nice. And it was the nicest thing ever. And then he told me I was funny. I was like, oh, my God. Thank you. Yeah, it was Patrice, Patrice, like that in New York. He was going to hate you. Like, everybody's worried that Paul Moody was going to hate him. But you can't imagine this guy was around in the 70s. And here he is 35 years later. Why? He was watching us young fucking snot nose idiots. The 15th of them. Did you have his mind? That was a wealthy.
2:01:02I don't know. He's still well -dc. He's sold out the improv all the time back then. It was still a great comment. Yeah. When he would go up and make you all watch him. We would all watch him. Three hours, too. He would go on forever. He would go on for a long set if he wanted to. If he was going late, it was nice. No, he was a great comment. I mean, I wonder like what the writing process was with him and prior. I wonder what that was like. I wonder how they did it back then. Yeah. How many of them just sat there and wrote? Maybe. Maybe they did a lot of drugs. Yeah. Did you play your ears, Breen?
2:01:38I got to go to the bathroom again. Go to the bathroom. That's my ghost ghost. Man, it's been me the lot lately. Yesterday, I totally overmodulated. Overhydrated. Oh, yeah. The game is when we were leaving the club yesterday. It gives liquid IV. Yeah. It's like eight bottles of water in one bottle of water. It's like two. It's like two. It hydrates you. Peter T. It was explained to me. There's an actual formula that it works with 16 ounces of water. It doubles the hydration. I don't understand it. Sure. I just drank it. I'm too fucking stupid. Yeah, I just drank it. It's filled with electrolytes and it tastes good.
2:02:17It's good for you. It's really good after workouts. I just saw it. I got a, uh, that Mike Tyson Brent with a student glass brand with Mike Tyson version of the gravity bond thing. Oh, did you see that? No, but Jamie had one in here. We're all terrified of it. Really? Yeah, but it's awesome. I'm sure it is. If you can just get obliterated, melt into the couch. Yeah, I guess it does. Do you dab? I stops. Well, more than anything else, like the process is so like, I never got into the ritual of it. I feel like it's a lot to go through to have coughing that's violent. Oh, and then there was a, you know, did you see it?
2:02:58Uh, I went down. I almost passed out on these just gangster and dabs. No, I didn't say that. It's on YouTube because see me going down. It's like, what's happening? I do. Well, here's what it was. I did almost every time I would do the dab. Part of like white pauses for a second. But at any time I've done a, uh, a dab, if it's a good dab, I would see it as like, I'd get that feeling where I'd cough and I'd almost be like, the, you know, the room's got to kind of like come together for a second. Yeah. I mean, you're almost dizzy. Yeah. But I thought that was kind of like the fun of the high of it.
2:03:31And on this one, I do that. That's happening. I'm on a podcast, so I'm trying not to cough violently. I'm keeping my coughs in. And while I'm doing that, my next, you know, my next inhale is Lewis just turns and hands me another dab. So I just do it all over again. I didn't breathe and you see my head start going to, and my hand starts like shit. It's look scary. Oh, my God. A lot of people that were going, you know, everyone diagnosed as you have to this happens, of course, but I just almost passed out. No. No, no, no, no, no, look at my. I can already tell what it was up. What it was it like?
2:04:07Like what were you experiencing right here? I was aware still weirdly. But what was it like? Like what were you experiencing? Look at, look at Dave realized, and he's like, no, wait, that was joking. And I'm firing immediately again.
2:04:27I thought you were acting. I really thought you were doing a bit. I'm back. I was. It was, it was. It was, I mean, when I was experiencing, I, I knew my head was going down, but I was almost, I just thought I was kind of going down and coughing and then my, and I heard, and I heard Lewis go, Jay, and I was like, yes. Why is the crowd behind you guys? It's gonna be on camera. What? Instead of us facing them. Well, because they, but they project the show and all the stuff to the audience. Oh. So in front of us, they're seeing a screen of us in and all of like the stuff we do. Meanwhile, you're right in front of them.
2:05:07Yeah, yeah. That seems ridiculous. It's like watching a twitch stream. Yeah, don't really. I never thought of that one. That sucks for the people that are there. Didn't we use to face the audience? Or do they sit all around us? Bro, you can figure that out. You guys could figure that out. Put cameras in a better spot. Oh, Harry, facing the audience. Yeah, you can have cameras facing the audience if you want to. Well, Lewis, you've heard of here. You should have the, you've heard of. Bro, you said your failing. The audience. The audience cursing the sky right now. The people talking should be facing the audience.
2:05:30I agree. I agree. Yeah, it's about me right now. That's ridiculous. You're back. Oh, I'm fine. Let me give you Lewis's theory on that. I know there actually is one. And I don't heavily disagree with it. The show is also for the, you know, the majority of people taking it in are watching, watching from home. So the idea is saying to play to like each other more than play. When you're staring at the crowd, you tend to go and we did that. So when we did face the audience, we would do a lot more like trying the hand and not paying attention to each other in a conversation. A one hand, you know, kind of courage.
2:06:09It takes to turn your back to your fucking crowd. Yeah, you're not wrong. Hundreds of people and you're talking mad. Shucks. And there's people behind you. It is an added element of danger. Well, also in a club where sometimes like through the cracks comes somebody who just came to the club. Yeah, right. And it was like there happens to be it because we're sold out pretty much like weeks in advance, but they'll be, and we've had like two weeks ago. Thank God they tend to be pretty cool usually where they quietly leave, but we'll end up calling it out anyway. They're like, this is not for me. Yeah, but like there was a guy, a lady from Canada and her like 17 year old son was where we started to get him high.
2:06:43Yeah, yeah, yeah, you were on that episode, but like she ended up being super cool, but they had no idea what they were walking to. We looked out that she was like a cool mom. Yeah, that's hilarious. We were like, it says, hi, we've decided you go smoke weed and he's just like, can I imagine not knowing what you're doing. You walk into a legion of skanks. It's crazy. It's actually we've yelled at the club for that before like, hey, don't do that to people because then when they're upset with us, I still kind of feel for them like, well, you feel you didn't want to know what you're coming like.
2:07:13You should have to watch this. You should have to watch. Yeah. It's not there fault. They should have been warned going in there. They should have been warned. They should have been warned. They're trying to know what happens. They went over and they it's it's it's being a good thing, but it is cool when they catch up though. And then I'll call go with us, but there is times when people leave and you're like, you can see their faces. You're like, why would you have put them like you thought it's the end up show? It's their thing. Yeah. It's not a standup show. They came to watch a standup show and you go, well, there's this other thing without giving them enough like it could go pretty haywire in there.
2:07:43I'm going to hear nutty shit. In one episode, he had to loo up a gun and Lewis had to shove it up, Jay's ass. Yeah. Right there. Everybody. Imagine just a random coming in for a comedy show and you're like, what the fuck's going on? In my daughter's, my daughter when she was, uh, turned 19, she was almost like, can I come like Legion's Gangs? And there's the, oh my. Well, she's my daughter. And so like for the most part, I'm like, she gets with this comedy. Do you know what I mean? And I was like, it's not so much the material that we're talking about that's going to get me. Now, what happened with Lewis and Dave, which I fully understand too, they were coming to me a couple of times and they're like, hey, like you got to stop letting her come to the show.
2:08:22I'm like, she's an adult, dude. She wants to come. I'm almost like, you guys kind of have to like get used to the idea that she's an adult. And then what they said made me, they were like, yeah, but dude, we're, we're seeing like that four year old little girl over there that we've been known since she was a kid, you know? And like, he's like, it's going to make me not tell a story that I want to tell because she's there. And I go fair enough. And then as a little, uh, she has a little, yeah, she, she was, she can come, but as a little cherry on top that made it easier to explain to her that we're going to take a break from her coming for a while was that, and I had a nowhere, uh, Byron, who ended up becoming the intern from the intern contest sucked his own dick on stage.
2:09:04Well, and looking over my ninth year of daughter like this, like, I can probably, all right, point taking guys. I'll keep her out of here. She's surprised. On stage. She's on stage. She's on stage. She's a surprise. By the way, he sucked. Is that way a pressure more? Uh, that might get in trouble. Now, they put a curtain up eventually. Uh, uh, like legitimately, but on stage, anything goes, I don't think so. Performance art. Yeah, I think in some like that. All of that. Where this is. Yeah. You might have just admitted to it. It was in his mouth. I understand that. Like legitimately, this might be a crime.
2:09:43Um, are you allowed to blow yourself in front of people? It's fun though. I feel like you, it's the same as masturbation. Do you think it'd be worse than that crime wise? I don't know. No, because it's so weird. Well, he sucked his own dick while it was soft. That's, oh, that's impressive. That's the same. But it was a fun to angle it into his head and he come down on it. It's funny. I was very, I said to Lewis, I wonder if you had any opinions or thoughts on GGL, and which is a very similar like stage show of just insanity and shit and not any boring stuff, right? He's such a, I've been watching like, he's documentary's on him lately, where he's a short film.
2:10:16Some of the films people have made, it's funny what I thought was cool when I was younger. As an older performer, I like, and like, you have the picture out there of Jim Morrison, like his mug shot and stuff. When I watched the doors when I was younger, I thought it was the coolest thing because, like his defiance and like his, you know, he might not even show up. And the, and the piano players got to sing all the songs because he's drunk with Jefferson Airplane somewhere and there's a dope performer, you're like, hey, Jerk off. Show up and do your show. You know what I mean? Like there's an audience waiting.
2:10:49Yeah. Like, there's a coolness to it, but like, same thing, GGL, and like, I get you want to put on a big show, but I don't know if chucking shit at the people in the audience is like the way to handle it. But meanwhile, some people like, bro, I got belted with GGL. Fuck us. They probably smeared it on their friend. Fuck it. You did it. Pink eye forever. They always tell you, they, all the documentaries go, well, they were, there was Kevin and Kevin was a sweetheart. You're like, that was like a character because he's lost in it. I mean, he was. That was a character. Just a piece of shit was his character.
2:11:25Jesus Christ. I mean, a deplorable piece of shit. That's the thing only he would always be like, did he have a, my mother didn't give a shit about the man shot himself on stage and smeared it on his face in the name of punk. How do you even share yourself on such standing? No, buddy, there's videos of this. He just goes, he goes into the audience. Yeah. So what's funny is, go back to that picture. They love him. Look at that picture. Look at his tattoo. What does it say? Life sucks, scum fuck. Life sucks, scum fuck. Smear and shit on your face. And then he goes, side says, fuck something. Fuck something.
2:11:58Bro, I don't. It says fuck. That is not totally a character. No, as you can't get to that. But what's funny is, they talked with mom and stuff. Because this story's always like, my mom, the parents didn't give a shit about me and my dad was this and fuck you, that's why I'm angry. And his mom's like, just shows pictures of him and his brother. They're both in the band as like kids just like on like horse. It's like, you know, like, they were like fine, like a bunch of like Massachusetts kids. And what happened? He started getting attention to drugs, probably as the old man answer. He probably got the drugs and was just like, started getting, but I mean, like, you can't again.
2:12:35No, I'm going to get a coffee. Unfixible or like unrelenting, like terrible. Like all of a sudden he's in trouble for like beating up a woman publicly. Like at NYU, he does that. There's video of that of him just like taking a chicken, like throwing around the room and like, just like whatever. No, I think a girl was like, you know, challenging his, because I guess he kept saying, he kept saying he was going to kill himself on stage. But he moved the date a lot. Like for like, you kick the can down the road. Like that year would go box. You'd be like Halloween and next year. I'm going to blow my summit.
2:13:11I commit suicide and take as many as I can with me. Young shepherd Smith covering it. Look at Shepard Smith. Look how cutie was happened at the club space fish behind me last night. A band called Gigi Allen and the murder junkies performing at a club that prides itself and its words on having shows on the cutting edge. People paid $7 to watch a man defecate into his own man. While he was nude and that is just the beginning. He also looks that like that's good. I'll also give you a. GGM. I'll give him credit GGL and two because he has a tiny, tiny pecker and he walks around. Oh, yeah. I mean, real.
2:13:54It ever more presented it well. Damn. He's actually off the stage. She was right down here off the stage. Isn't it amazing that that would be the number one concern? The size was dick. This guy's shitting in his hand. And smearing it in his face. Right stage. And we'll like, yeah, look at this. That's what I'm saying. I courage to stand in front of people. Imagine it smelling that place. You know, a lot of people say speaking publicly is the people's biggest fear. I say shitting publicly. Yeah. I said, he's smearing it on your face. God. Oh, yeah. His drummer always played naked too. And he was Shepard Smith.
2:14:29He was a space fish. Orlando. He's live from Orlando. He's got to love this story. God damn. But the one that I saw he goes into the audience and I said it's funny when they all are there for him. But they don't want to get the gross shit on. So as soon as he approaches jumps down the audience, they see like make like these circles around him to give him space. And then he like he shits. He turns around, bends over and just rips a couple logs. Bend down starts picking starts picking up his mouth. Oh my God. This is insane. Covered himself. Oh Jesus Christ. You shit in his hand and threw it into the other.
2:15:03He rips it all of his chest. That's not the work. Dude, his face. Oh, this is so bad. And then he runs into the audience. You see the audience like they're like, but they're still trying to watch. But they're like in the hallways and stuff. Is this? Oh my God. Just stop. There's no music going up. Look at that, Jamie. Glimmering that. I'm gonna throw up. Oh my God. Imagine being in the smell and pictures is bad. This smell will be around you. It should be. Oh, imagine getting hit in the face with Gigi's shit. And you're already sweating. And you didn't cut. You didn't know. Maybe it might shit himself.
2:15:34It's definitely not going to throw it out. Only the Farah Abraham shit video is the more impressive shit video. The teen mom lady who just is so like wrapped in the point. You know she is right. Farah Abraham. She was like an MTV's teen mom girl. She was like the first one that was like famous from that. Yeah. I just heard that she did some porn scenes. She has like only fans now, but she's known for being a mother. She put a video out. I guess like someone just like leaked it, but it was her doing. We could only fans thing or something. And it's her just turning around with her completely plastic body and ripping off.
2:16:09Two foot of uncut shit straight to it's not pornographic. It's like an oddly satisfying video. You ever see those where it's like when they cut the perfect like things off and shit. It's when you're like, when it's done, you go, oh, you're full. Where was that in you? Is it funny? There's all these all the satisfying videos of people like making soap. This is a girl. I mean, it's everything she ate. Everything she ate came out for sure. Did you think of someone knows they're going to do that? They hold it in as long as they can to get it longer and longer. Did just really make sure you're getting a full package out in one shipment.
2:16:52I don't know if you could plan for an unbroken two foot of shit. That's the fact that I do it regularly. I don't think you can plan for it, but you probably increase your odds. Sure. If you can just hold it in tight neck, make sure like a sausage. They say if you drink celery juice, your jizz will be thick and shoot far, but maybe it won't. Right. How would you know? What Jamie found what? Jizz, celery juice. Oh, the video for shitting for sure you found it. Don't show me. Okay, show me. All right. Okay, show me. I can walk you through this. It's pretty good. Start. Start pretty. We're starting to be getting so hot.
2:17:25So it went out. Yeah, you play from there. Now what you're going to see first, Joe is when he turns around, there's a cork of shit that was probably blocking the path. That comes out first. That just fires right out. Rice, dude. How much do you think you have to pay to get someone to poop in front of the camera? Not enough. Oh, this is not TikTok. Oh, so there's the first work and here. Easily 12 inches. Whoa. Two full feet. Oh my God. It's more than two feet. Bro, he's coming. Stop. That was all of it. Imagine wanting someone to do that. I want you to shit for me. I don't know how I have to assume it's control more than sexual.
2:18:10You're naughty girl. Shit for me. It's got to be control over sexual. Yeah, but I think maybe it's a naughty thing. So naughty. Some boys are like shit is so wrong. No, it's funny. I can watch that and laugh at it and doesn't make. I don't get that like disturbed by it. No chance when I watch that in person. I'd be like, not a person. It's too much. Too many senses involved. Yeah, it's also it's a thing that's like built into us to avoid like plagues disease like. She's going to get away from it. We're sure. And away from that. That's disease. It's not crazy. Like stuff that comes out of your body.
2:18:42Kill people. Like it's the stuff that comes out of your body gets in water and then someone drinks that water. People are dead. She was selling for five thousand. Five thousand bucks for stinky poop that comes out of me. Oh, wow. She's people are offering her five thousand bucks for poop. She's going to keep doing it. I don't know. Does stuff. I was just like, I don't even think that that could go in the mail. I was in question whether or not it was really a joke. Reminding her that she went to sell her poop slime on her Sophia's website. What is that? Her insuffee is there is other insuffee is looks like she was selling it.
2:19:18She's on her poop. What a great. I mean, recycling. I think that's really dangerous. This seems like it's almost a joke. That's fake. Yeah, that's fake. Who was fair Abraham? What do I know her name from? She was too. She was too much. She was a David tells underground. She was one of the audience like celebrities. Oh, really? Remember the underground. I think she tried to do comedy for a second as often will happen. Didn't stormy Daniels try to do comedy? Absolutely. I think so. It's everyone's fallback plan. It's the lowest level of anything else. Is that nice? More respect. It's the lowest level of respect.
2:19:49They're like, I can fallback. It's not better for us though. Yeah. A porn shark and just do it. Converning to her soon. Fair Abraham. Police some of there's a video for doing comedy. Please. Don't show it. No plastic. We will have to be honest. Don't show it. Don't show it, Jay. Is that good? Say it for myself. Well, I mean, I just if you had a video of you pooping, you would imagine like, man, this gotta be worth a lot of money. I can't just poop for five thousand bucks. I'll tell you what, there was a there's a money maker. A high level. I was a session. A high high level like well known porn star.
2:20:29Who I know. No, when we were interviewing her during maybe it was these were quarantine numbers. But during the quarantine, we interviewed her over Zoom. And she was saying that she's doing like a lot like only fans like private one on one stuff now. Because we're not like filming movies or anything right now. And I was like, really? I go, is anyone asked you? To a shit on camera? She goes, oh, she goes, no, not really. She goes, but I mean, that would be like, she's like, that would be a lot. Well, I was like, really? I go, how much she goes? I mean, like shit, like that'd be like 500 bucks at least.
2:21:03Oh, yeah. I'm like, yeah, I was almost like, go and do it. I'm family right now. No way, it's possible. 500. You got to do it anyway. It's just where you're doing it. It's a buyer's market. Yeah. I like your see, you're gonna shit. You're gonna flush it for zero dollars. I have a question. If you went on to only fans, can you just find people to follow? Or do you just only find, do people find people from their Instagram? You mean, like, what? Yeah, how do you, how does someone, because you can't search people, right? I think you can. You can search. Yeah, but I think finding people on only fans is would not be the allure.
2:21:43Like to me, the allure would be to find them in the wild. And then you find out like, oh, you can see this person naked for sure. But you got to think like a lot of these like fitness girls and have a huge only fans following, right? Like how many, most of those guys like, they find out about them. Some of them are message. But how do they find each other? They're finding out about them on Instagram. Like, is it a Facebook? Yeah, it's got to be in social media. It's social media. I think joy. Instagram. And that craze like, if you're always got a great body. All she has to do is like, work out, just work out on camera and do different stuff every day.
2:22:18And you'll get a millions of followers. Yeah, put on makeup millions and millions of hours. The funniest thing we've got. Look at two squads. Yeah, a very fun thing. We just look at like, uh, Hockerel Instagrams. It's such a nice look at the comments under any like picture. It's like the guys who just you're awesome. But not just your awesome. It's like they call her baby and stuff because like, oh baby back to, oh baby. Glad to see you're wearing that red bathing suit again. No idea that's creepy. So sad. Those girls live in a life of like having a watch over their shoulder for like, oh yeah.
2:22:49This is the amount of stalker ticks. There must be a lot of them. You're constantly photographing where you're at. And they all think they're in with you. They think they kind of know you. I think this is the pipeline that started up. Yeah, because they call them that. They're like, hey, babies, you know, pools hot. You're gonna twitch. Yeah, there's a, it's not only fans and it's not what Cam girls do. But they hang out and pools and hot tubs and talk to this. Oh, yeah, we talked about this before. And yeah, that gets them onto their only fans or whatever. Yeah. Wow. That's a podcast porn thing on Emily fans.
2:23:19They do a pocket as coupled as a podcast with a, with another girl. And then they fucking only fans right after. We lost, we lost podcast the year at the AVNs to that. Oh, really? Ah, that's the Adam 22. It's a hilarious idea. Yeah. Adam should get him make porn. That's a good idea. That's the Adam 22 guy. It's a good, fucking thing is so interesting. People are very guessing, but they can't say why. They just feel like this is the bad for society or something. I'm thoroughly hypocritical. I have one of my STR show that I do interviews them a lot. Porn Stars and they come on the do like, you know, like that old, uh, like shock, you know, it's like squirting contests kind of thing.
2:23:59Right. And then especially if I become like friendly with them at all in any kind of way, you're right away or like, damn, man, this is like a, it's a fucking dark world. It's just a, yeah, I don't see where it's not like. It's like dark in some way and like everyone who's out of it at some point has some like, I guess any job, but you know, it's like this guy is a monster of a person. So I'll never be in a room with them. You know, that kind of shit, you know, like, hey, man, it never seems to end. Yeah, but like in a regular job of bad boss, just like yells you different. Everybody. Yeah, yeah, I hate that guy.
2:24:30This one's like fucking you. Well, there's a whole world that he's fucking you. A bunch of the girls are probably showing up on drugs. I'm saying so many like things happening. Yeah. Do you know, I mean like probably and like the higher level of professionalism, probably from the girl like the more like like the less kind of sexy. You know, I mean like they're like when it's person comes in goes, okay, where do I sign? This guy's fucking me. Okay, let's go. Be hard, please. Do you think they do it? They can't be like that. Absolutely. I think girls instinctually from hearing stories and everything.
2:25:07Don't fully understand like sometimes how a guy is like, how a boner works. Because a girl getting upset that you're not getting hard or you weren't somehow hard the second they like pulled a titty out or something. When it's like, what's wrong? As soon as you do this, like, it's never happening. Nothing's all doing a staring at it. Yeah, she's so let down. She wants, you know, nothing's more counterproductive to what they're trying to get done. It's like, no attempt to do anything like that. Especially when it comes out of like the last sexy try. Yeah. Like, do you like this? Do you want me to do this?
2:25:40You go, that's good. Then they go, you like that? He goes, well, then what's happening? Why is not going on? And you're like, oh my god. Oh my god. Don't say that. Oh my god. You don't like this? What's going on? You must walk and we'll just put your socks back on. We're going home. So, so aggressive. Find yourself a cab. I think you're right. Show yourself, now, please. Imagine wanting like a very specific reaction from a girl like that. Like imagine if a girl's a tractor, her tits poke out. Yeah. That'd be wild. It's kind of a crazed thing with men. It's kind of crazy. We grow. Yeah. You could see.
2:26:22Well, they have a reaction, too, but you can't just go like, hey, miss them. Just check if you like me. Just go on the front of her pants. Yeah. It drives a biscuit. Sorry. Miss Red that. That's wild that that needs to happen in order to have sex and make babies. It's wild that that thing needs to change because like some animals have like a bone there. It's like a penis. Yeah, like deers have a penis bone. Like a lot of animals have bones. Yeah, is ever in the wild fucking where they can't get it up. I don't think so. I don't think they can survive that way. So I think they're hard all the time.
2:26:52Yeah. They just poke it out. Or when it's necessary, when it's needed, I don't think it's like, yeah, I think I don't think a horse looks like a mare is like, hmm. Well, they definitely get horny when the other ones are in heat, right? Yeah. But the thing is that they can hit it so quick because they have a bone. Yeah. They just pound in there and go, yeah, you ever see it like a Steve Rinaldi gave me one to stir coffee with. It's like a little dick bone. Dick bone. Dick bone. Yeah. Yeah, fun friends. Different. Different. Different animals have dick bones. We had a war. Yeah. We had a war. We had a war.
2:27:28We still have that. We have a giant war. Dick bone. Oh, it's curved. Joe, it couldn't even go in straight. Yeah. It's a whinzen. That's a hard ass thing too, man. That's a heavy thing. That's how war is so tough. Happy that chick is holding it. Look at that. She's super. But imagine that. A giant bone. It really does look like a double sided dildo. Yeah. You ever see a whale's dick? It's carved. No. It's a real dick. It's a real dick. It's a preposterous. It's a big, is this room? Really? Oh my god. But I never see one. There's a whale's dick. I didn't realize that's late. Wait, the walrus bone is used for doing what?
2:28:04It's a clubbing something? No, getting that dick in there, son. This one is like shaped. Oh, what they call this? They use it as a club. Is that what it says? Backulum is what the penis bone is. Yeah. That's the technical name. That's got to be weird in your second coat of shellac on your walrus dick. There's the answer. Walrus dick club? How nuts is that? They have a bone in their body. But if you think about it, like if you got to make quick predators after you can't just, you've got a walrus, like your odds of escaping shark suck already. That's a whale's dick. Blue whale penis. What? It's so long.
2:28:43It's got hair on it. It's so hairy. Because it's hairy. Deal with it. It's got a violin end. I would imagine the... Where's that on their body where they can mount? Somebody. I think they probably have to go under and bang it from underneath. Got to be from behind. Yeah, they have to go underneath. They have to go like, I would imagine they have to go like this. Like here's the girl in the male whoo. Outside of the under there. It goes like that. Got this in video of whale's fucking. It gets under her and like they match it. And it just like smashes. It just slides in there for a little bit. Is it one of those things?
2:29:17We ought to have seen a picture of an upside down whale fucking. I never seen that. I've seen whales they can go in the water and do all kinds of crazy shit. Is it coming from behind? Is it coming from behind? Like a refueling jet? Yeah, yeah. I would say. Underneath and upside down. Underneath. Do you... Yeah, there must be video. Maybe they know to both go down in the water in the water. Is it spraying semen in the water and they let's force through it? No, no, no. That's how fish do it. These are mammals. So mammals have to breed and they give birth to the young. Whereas fish just gizz eggs.
2:29:47You're throwing away. These whales are all about the cream pie. They're actually cream pie animals. Yeah, they're all about the cream pie animals. Yeah, oh, that's what they do. Up to it down, you're right. Okay, wow, look at that. That's it. Wow. And she flips over and he's got a keeper in spot. Oh, it's a scramble because they're both real horny and they can't stay in position because they don't want to. They're on the arms. Wow, here he goes. Oh, it's it. It's it. Chappau. Oh, you see that from the side. I pictured missionary. Giant whale dick. Oh, another marine. There you go. Now they have a baby.
2:30:23And now they're the fucking happy couple. Which wild how smart those fucking things are. Those things are smart as shit. Have you ever seen like save a walrus that they were fucking with when they trained their kids? Yeah, they'll save it if they don't want to eat it. They're really dead like a put it back. Yeah, if they don't want to eat it. They also like they know how to use eye shelves. So like one of them will get up to an eye shelf and they'll tip it. Yeah. So that the thing slides to them. So they get their massive body and then they're just sliding towards death. They're just they're super intelligent.
2:30:58I went whale watching once in South Africa and then you pay all this money and no whales. They don't give you your money back.
2:31:11Sorry man, no whale. If you want to see whales, why is a great place to see them? You always see them there. Whenever the time is that they're there for breeding or whatever it is. There's parts of the year. I think it's around November. If I remember correct, but I'm not sure if I do. I've been there a few times. I've seen them. It's amazing. You see them like in the water splash and you can take a boat towards them. When I was in South Africa, we went to Seal Island, which is like that only place where the sharks breach. It's like jumping grab the seals. That's pretty well. I haven't seen that.
2:31:44It's pretty well. Yeah, it's the only place where they because the seals are all up on like this kind of like barge almost and they just jump out and grab them. In the last couple of days. In the world where they breach the sharks. I don't even know. Sharks go to Alaska. Not Alaska. That was South Africa. Oh, South Africa. I think that's the Alaska. That's how good this way it is. How close did it legalize in here? I don't know. Someone told me yesterday that there's something like. Look at these fucking monsters. They're so scary. Just beating it around. I mean, what is scary than sharks? Just smashing things with their teeth.
2:32:25Those guys fishing recently. They had their fish right at the, I think it was a giant tuna right at the edge of the boat. Yeah. Great white just coming in and steals it right at the last. No, I haven't seen that. Next, please. They had to go just jump backwards. Like what the fuck? Fucker, dude. Yeah. Those things are so goddamn terrifying. What a perfect eating machine. Rose of teeth. If one falls out, they get another.
2:32:50Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Fuck, dude. Right there. My mother. Holy fuck. Right there. Wow. Look at this is amazing. He could have fallen over. He could have dragged in. Yeah, right here. They had no idea. Yeah. This is amazing. Now they know. And you think. Jesus Christ. That's a big one, too, man. Yeah, my mom, when I was young, when I was younger, when I went on like a her and whenever friends, like girlfriends went to the Bahamas to go be young girls, I guess. And I went to go stay with family in Florida. And that night we went to go see in the theater. Uh, jaws four. And my mom told me that day she was like, you know, this is like those cell phones right?
2:33:31And I think it's like a house phone you call once a day. And my mom was like, oh, we're getting ready to go on a banana boat today and do whatever. And it's going to be fun. And then that night I went to go see jaws four with my uncle and jaws, particularly. I've never, I didn't know what a banana boat was when she said it. But in that movie, there's a scene where the banana boat. And that's when he shows up to the Bahamas jaws and eats everybody off of a banana boat. And I just cried the rest of the night. I was like, nine. Oh my god. That's awful. You couldn't get a horn. It wasn't like I got there.
2:33:58There's no record. And it looks. Oh my god. Those movies were so big. Like what's it got to jaws for? Like how nutty did it get? You go from, yeah, well, you go from one of the greatest horror movies of all time. Jaws one. And by the time you get to jaws 3D, it's a disaster. Jaws two was a stretch. Jaws two was wacky. He's just standing in place. How many people were in jaws two? How many of the original people? You lost the captain because he died. Captain Die. You have so much. That guy was the sh - Roy Shreider, the wife. So Roy and the wife are back for two. It's like one of the younger guys because he was like something happened to me last year.
2:34:41It's so crazy how a good movie like Roy Shreider in the first jaws is amazing. Because it's a great movie. That old man was the best. But then by the time you get to the other jaws is he still amazing? I also had to phone it in. I think - I might be wrong with this, but I think Jaws, the idea is he took everything from this family. Because I think in part - Does Roy Shreider die in part two? Does he? I don't know if we did - I think one of the - They have two kids. I think one dies in part two in the beginning in an attack. And then the beginning of the revenge, the Bahamas one, I think it kills like his other kid.
2:35:18Imagine if sharks were like crows. Or they recognize people that suck. Get rid of that one. They tell you. Wow. This is what crows do. They see like you suck in general. If you do something to crows, they'll fucking squawk when you come around. Like if someone like shot like a crow with a baby gun or something like that, the crow saw it happen. And the person like was there with the crow. That person will get like smirked on by other crows. Like when they go out, the crows will like swoop on them and get in their face. The vengeance? Yeah. Like trying to fuck with them. You ever say the magpies swooping in a - Is this two?
2:35:51This is the end up two where they kill it with the power cable or something. She like that. So you have to get out there with the water. Your power. Yeah. Sort of a bitch. Come on. Oh, I thought that's the end of one. Oh, that's right. And it bites it. And he throws the cable in its mouth. Come on. Come on. That's crazy. Here it is. Oh my god.
2:36:14Da -da. Dad. Yes, look over. Come on. You can hear that far.
2:36:26I have a way to show it. Oh my god. That's the worst special effects of all time. It's so stupid. That is so stupid. And what a dumb strategy. What if the shark dives under that rope? What if it's not stupid? When he comes up his nose just knocks the thing out of your hands to bite you in. The ones where the guys are in the shark cage and the shark goes through the bottom of the shark cage. It just destroys it. It was real recent. And almost got this guy's leg. It's like literally goes through the bottom, snashing its teeth like inches from this guy's leg. You're fucking with dinosaurs at that.
2:37:04What are you doing? Those things have been around for 100 million years plus. Those fucking things have been around forever. They survived the dinosaurs. They throw chum in the water to get them to swim around. And then your legs can stick out of the bottom. Those things are crazy. They're just feeding machines to swim. They can't even stop. They stop the dinosaur. They're like guys like Steve O and then people like staking their pants and then jumping. They hook themselves by the chin. They hook themselves by the chin. They hook themselves by the chin and then accidentally like remember that one of the kids.
2:37:31He kicked them in the fucking face. Look at this. Look at this thing goes through the cage. It's destroyed. He's got to get the fuck out now. Watch this again. Because they put him on a plexigas glass cage for some reason. This is so insane that they did this. So insane. And look at that thing. So watch how it comes through the bottom. Watch this. He thinks it's got something. Wow. Jesus. It was going for him, man. Yeah. It was going for him. It shattered it. It was going for him and missed. That's all that was. Look at his mouth open. It just smashed the record of the glass. It sees all that fish and things.
2:38:05This is a big piece of fish that is just sitting there and no one's eating it. Wow. So I'll just go eat that and he gets out of the way just in time. Dude, look at that. Justin time. Almost the force pushed him up. Yeah. Like it wasn't even scaring out of that. Right. It was the box breaking and kind of led him slightly to the side and he missed it. God damn. How did that guy survive? I think I get out of there. I think I get out of there. That is fucking insane. I love him. Yeah. Yeah. Pull him out immediately. That's all those things do. Just swam and eat. Swam and eat. Probably just a blank, crunching noise in their brain.
2:38:40Probably no instincts at all. Don't care. No, no. No, that's good. Is there any evidence of fish being emotional of any way at all? No. Or is it pure, just so squid, just saying that they would live their lives? Just ladies of this once. He goes, I eat fish because they don't take care of their kids. It's like it's true. She's like, yeah, if I need protein, I'll eat fish. I'm not connected to them. That's true. I get it. Like if you see a mama deer taking care of her baby deer, she's like, I get it. You can eat anything. You have to kill everything in certain ways. Except fish. You can eat alive if you want.
2:39:13You can just take a bite out of one. So what if you could do kosher would mean you would have to eat agriculture animals, right? Because you couldn't hunt. Right. For animals, except fish. But what would you do in a case of like an apocalypse? Would you stick with that? No. What would people do? Do you have like rules where you're allowed to get out of stuff? Yeah, if you're going to die, you can do a lot of stuff. Okay. Yeah. Can you eat a person with cheese?
2:39:48That's hilarious. People eating cheese does go to go. That's the line. That's our number one, right? Like eating people. And people eat people. What do we eat people? Well, that's like the Donner party type shit. Yeah. He each other stay alive. And then they made it. So you're on the other side. You live, but you live because you ate your friend. Yeah, it was like. Yeah. Well, a lot of them were waiting for people to die and then eat them. And I think some people probably just sacrificed themselves. I think some of those people were like, let's have a rule where nobody eats their own family. Oh, cheese does.
2:40:22That's definitely be if I die. Did you imagine? Is there a circumstance that's not like a dire situation where you would try cooked human fleshed anyway? I'm not really interested in that. Yeah. No. It just doesn't seem like a road you want to go down. What if it's your favorite food? You barred down. What if you eat it and you're like holy shit. The perfect people. Yeah. This is fucking amazing. It's delicious. The perfect combo of salty and sweet. Do you see the menu? Slow roasted. The movie The Menu. Yeah. That was great. Great movie, right? Yeah. That's a wild ass movie. Like that's the kind of movie where they would serve you human flesh.
2:40:54Oh, yeah. Well, Ari said that we brought it up today on the way here because he was saying him Bobby Kelly went to the Copenhagen. Yeah. Like kind of based on that. Yeah. And it is. It's so up its own ass. It's hilarious. Where were you? You're everything great. Denmark. It's in Denmark. Copenhagen. He just closed. Oh, what's it called? Noma. Oh, that's the guy that just decided out of the blue to stop. Second time. He's like the greatest chef in the world. He's the second time. First time he stopped. He went like the best, the best rush on the world. Like three out of four years. And then he was like, I'm out.
2:41:24And then like a couple years later he came back. And then he said like there's no way to do this. Like by paying everybody enough. So he's like, you can't make profits that way because you're right. Actually, we'll just shut down. Wow. Yeah. He's like, I thought about it. This is weird to take advantage of people financially and then you can't operate otherwise. Well, it's the best place. Like things you would never combine. I thought you were these to peel walnuts. Yeah, but I mean, it was a 26 -course period. Experience things for sure. But I was saying like, is it like a mixture of like, they spared no expense.
2:41:53They didn't overload it with tables. They like moved it out. So you had a great experience. 26 courses. They were like, we have a wine pairing menu. And I was like, okay, and Bobby's like, I'm alcoholic. And they go, we got a juice pairing menu for you though. And it's just like every, everything was taken care of. Nice. Yeah, it was like two and a half hours. How much is it per person? $500. That's actually not what I thought though. Yeah, very interesting. They have professional chefs peeling walnuts so you don't get the little shells things stuck in your teeth. Did you enjoy it as much as you enjoyed another really good restaurant?
2:42:26Like, was it an added part of the experience to have all those courses and stuff? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was an adventure. Fried moss. And the fried... To mimic citrus. How are the fries? Get on. And you leave hungry. That's whatever I said and it's true. Hmm. What makes the best restaurant in the world? Oh. Is that Kevin Irwin? Rain, brain jelly. Wow. Oh, everything's local. He started a little rainbow. Rain, dear, brain jelly. Nope. It's all good. No. No, no. Interesting. But it's not very filling. Wait, what are they saying? Hey, go on there. Beetle made from berry hides and black garlic. Wow.
2:43:04I didn't have that one. Oh, wow. Interesting. Flower pot. Rose -centred cake in the shape of a flower pot. Wow. Wow. Come on. That's insane. Come on. You're showing off. You're just showing off. Okay. Duck brain. Wow. Oh. A few candies. Nope. Oh my god. No. What is that? A second feed. Nope. Is that chicken feet? Yeah. I'm not a duck feet. It's a chicken. I can't get... Fudge. Fudge made from smoked duck fat. Wait. Is it... Is it just shape like duck feet? I don't know. Yeah. It's just shape like duck feet. But it looks real. That's insane. Wow. So that's just a different kind of experience. It's all experiential.
2:43:49But it's also not bad. It's good. But like... into those on Wednesday. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm fucking simple. Yeah. Me and Ari went to the blind. Yeah. Place in Toronto once. What's that? Complete the darkness. Again. Complete darkness. And waiters waitresses. What? They lead you to behind a curtain. Then another curtain. Then other pitch black. They see you down. They feel your way down. Absolute black. Is that what you have to do? Oh, no. I'm not going to be a little bit more. Maybe I did one in a in Vietnam once and then we do this together. So how do you see where you're going? They lead you.
2:44:25They lead you. What if you have to pee? Do you tell them and they'll lead you? They lead you to the bathroom. I don't know where you're pissing. How do you know when you're done with your ass? I think they take you as a dump. They take you as a real hobby. What? Don't put that gun down. What if you have to get down? You're going to hold it in to get a shit like that lady on only fans? What are you going to do? Sometimes you take a shit. Yeah. True. Ari, you've shit in restaurants that are nice before. Yeah. You're right. I take it back. What do you mean I do? I take it back. You'll have to shit in the dark.
2:44:50See, you'd only not do it because it's a blind restaurant. Right. That's the only thing. And at regga restaurant, of course you take a shit. Right? If you went to Nome, and I was like, I have to use the restaurant. I'm not going to not enjoy this. Yeah. I'll be back. Yeah. Otherwise I'm going to be holding my shit. 18 minutes. Isn't that why you have a toilet? So I could take a shit. Yeah. But not at that blind place. You're like, how do I know what I'm done with my ass? You have no idea. I have no idea. I'm accidentally shit with my pants. What if a little pinch of a log? Maybe they give you light in the bathroom.
2:45:17Maybe they'll lead you to a light. Maybe your underwear destroyed. And you have to take them off and smell them. You know, maybe you've heard every time you know how to walk. Everybody be like, oh, somebody put something on your back. You got to clap your cheeks and see if it makes a mucky noise. And then maybe you find out where the sink is to wash your fucking hands. They got to have a beddare. They have to have a sink there too. You know, they got to have to wash your hands. So then you have to take your underwear and put it in the sink. Maybe they go in there with you. You smell your underwear.
2:45:41You don't like what you're smelling. Your pants black. God damn it. I should have shut my pants. They can wash your underwear. You're wet underwear and then sink and hope you got it good. They're all been off of being a towel. You're putting on a safe be underwear. You don't have to worry about aesthetics. You got to worry about smell. Just smell should be problem number one. You're going to need some soap on your own. Cover up with some dirt. And then as you leave the blind people going, what the fuck are you doing in there? Yeah. And they can smell better than regular people so they know. Oh, they know.
2:46:15You thought you got it out, but you didn't. I thought it was weird. When we were eating, if me and Ari would stop talking for a minute, like how zoned, like you can almost like, I was like, robotically like zoned in on conversations coming from different like play. You know, I mean, listen to other people and you can really hear it like, clearly. But if you could shoot, then you can almost go. There's also someone behind talking. You can almost focus in. It's very weird. So you're eating with your hands, using fork. You get a fork and knife. Maybe just spoon. No knife. No knife. No knife spoons.
2:46:46Jesus Christ. There was once we were going to try each other's like drink. So we're like, let's try this. Let's pass it. But it's like, you have no idea. So you're just like, passing. I'm sliding my over. I'm sliding. And then you're like going back and forth, like waiting slowly to touch his hand. And I'm like, wow. Oh, wow. I'm not getting it. It's that dark. How am I not getting it? And then it goes, how far up are you? I'm like, up. Why are you including up? First of all, it wasn't drinks. It was something on our forks. And I was even thinking of that I was doing that because all of you's definitely down here trying to like, you know, feel our hands such.
2:47:18And I am apparently just like, where's your face? I'm going to get it. I'm going to get it. I'm going to get it. Stop. Don't grow up at all. Oh my god. That's hilarious. It was going to be a novel concept. Yeah. You couldn't tell what you were eating. You was just like guessing based on smelling. But that's what I thought was interesting. I was wrong on almost everything they do is they ask if you want to know or if you want to be surprised. So I was like, you're both just that surprised. And they ask you afterwards, what do you think that was? And I mean, like, it was like pork and they're like, chicken.
2:47:52Damn. Was that turkey? That was sausage. It was everything was like nothing was right. You're like, if you can't see, it's amazing how much it like affected that. One that affects people to eat like fake meat. What do they think they're eating meat? It makes it taste better. If you gave someone one that fake meat burgers and didn't tell them, how much would they be able to tell? Because most of the time when people are eating a beyond meat burger, they know. You do it on purpose. If you lied to them. Yeah, if you just gave it to them, how much would they know? Especially, they might just think it's a bland burger.
2:48:23Yeah. Especially if it's got like you put fucking all kinds of sauce and pickles. Yeah, burger. I had the one from Burger King once, the impossible waffle. It tastes identical because you realize there's nothing to do with the meat anyway. It's the way they stack that, the mayo and whatever. Yeah, all the sugar is. I had a quarter pounder, like about a year ago. I have never eaten one of those. And I pulled into, I was fucking starving. I'm like, let's go. Come on, let's do that. I would have quarter pounded fries. And I was amazed at how sweet it tasted. I'm like, it feels like there's sugar in this.
2:48:58Like, do they put sugar in quarter pounders? Oh, gotta be. Gotta be. But I was eating it. I was like, this is kind of like, it was delicious, first of all. But it was also, it was like, this is kind of like a pastry and a burger at the same time. The price, it was so sweet. It was good though. I mean, I get it. Obviously, yeah. I get it. It seems like it's no one's going to like, I learned to like it. Nine grams of sugar. Nine grams of sugar. How much does that next to a roll though? I don't know what it's in, it could be in the bread. That's nothing compared to like a can of coke. But it's sweet enough that I was noticing it because most of the time, like, I'm like an in and out guy.
2:49:35I'm like, I like in and out with like lettuce wraps. That's the best. It's just me. There we go. Cheese and... That with five guys makes a mean lettuce wrap too. Five guys says the best though. They're all coming around. But what these lettuce wraps, they have better fries. Five guys has those. Cajun fries. Five guys says? Mm -hmm. Skin on though. Not my jam. I'll take it. Man, he's got an old Jewish bladder. Well, it was me yesterday. Sometimes you just fuck up over hydrate. Yes, you're out of pee. Three fucking times in the first three hours. Just drank too much water. May just hitting me that I don't have to pee a lot.
2:50:14But when I have to pee, we got to get there now. Yeah, as long as it's just pee. When I have to pee, I have to go. Shit. Dude, congratulations. I'll go away in Ferrari. That club is beautiful. Thank you. That's fun. Everything everybody said it was, too, which is, uh, and the energy down here is good right now for comedy. Well, there's a lot of good people here, and, uh, a lot of funny people that are actually working there, which is fun, too. Well, you guys walked in there. You guys, I think I'm gonna be back as down here with the creek and everything, and like, uh, like it was weird, like, uh, you know, I'd come down here and do gigs before, like you came down here, and with the scene, uh, changing, there was a little bit of, like, pushback.
2:50:57What pushback? I don't know if it was like, if you got it on your plate at all, but like, it was funny, like, some of the comics in Austin, you'd be like, hey, it's becoming a real scene down there, and it's like, yeah, for like, this batch of people, but, you know, it's like, it seemed like it caused a divide that I didn't know was, um, not even like, uh, like, uh, I think it was already that thing in New York, I felt like, you know, I mean - You're always gonna have, uh, people when there's a lot of shows that don't have, like, four or five people, like the Joe Rogan friend shows that I was doing at the Vulcan.
2:51:24Mm -hmm. The people that are just left out. Yeah, it's not - It's just not enough spots. Yeah. That's part of the reason why we decided to do two open mic nights. Okay. So we have open mic nights on Sunday and Monday, and then obviously this Killtony, which is the cornerstone of like the comedy scene, because that's what the new people, a lot of times, that's where they get their first set and they're doing it live on fucking YouTube. Big, yeah. It's amazing. It's a great fucking fun show, and it was awesome watching you guys. It's awesome. It's smart to have a open mic right there. Yeah. And if they're for it anyway, why make them waste their night if they don't get drunk?
2:51:57Exactly. This way, you got a chance to do the open mic. You got a chance to do Killtony. There's another open mic on Sunday. It's like the way it's set up. It's set up to foster new talent, too. It's not just set up to take care of existing talent. It's set up so that you create a nice comedy environment where people can go and see guys like Shane Gillis. See guys like you guys go up. See guys like Greg Fitzsimmons, or you know, Sholt was here last week. It was fucking amazing. Like, they get to see these people coming to talk about the Dave Chappelle show up. Yeah. You know, they're getting to see like the cream of the crop come in and buy some more.
2:52:35That's why she used to burst in the door for that reason. To see better comics. Exactly. Because it's a massive part of the education. Yeah. So, we wanted to make sure that that was like a big part of what we're doing. Do there's a swarm of employees. Just like all comics. I assume, or some level of it. Yeah. Yeah. Just taking care of everything. Yeah. And they get to punch out. Like if they have a set, they can go punch out. Love that. And come back. Oh, really? Yeah. If you have a set across town, just punch out, come back. That's awesome. Yeah. Don't waste the night doing a set. Yeah. The whole idea is that it's like, it's an environment for growing new people and for like spreading comedy.
2:53:16Like, a lot of comics, particularly in the beginning, they need like something that they can believe in and count on. And you don't necessarily get that. If someone's doing these pop -up shows here or there, you're like, how am I included in this? How can I get included in this? And the only way is you have to have open mics. You have to have open mics. It's the only way. And then on top of open mics, you have to have like little satellite rooms. Yeah. It's got to be a way you can kind of branch out. Oh, sure. This guy's got a room here. He's got a room there. And you make this, you network with the other comics that are doing that.
2:53:47And you put together a fucking act. But you want to know that there's like, what's the scene? Like, what's the community? Like, how many good comics are around here? How can I learn from these people? Because if you're stuck in a place where you're the funniest guy in town, you're in some weird spot in the middle of nowhere. You got to get out of there, right? Like, if you want to grow as a comic, you're not going to grow into vacuum. You're not going to grow into vacuum. But do you think that's what I mean? Because it used to be obviously the always they'd push you to the coast. New York or LA.
2:54:17That's kind of like over now. Do you think it's as like here in Nashville is the same difference at this point as far as like what you're trying to get in on stage? I don't know what it's going on in Nashville. I mean, Nashville's Zainey's, which is a great club. It's been on forever. It's one of the best in the country. But I don't know what the scene is other than Zainey's. I don't know much either. There's a lot of clubs here now. It's bigger here. It's a lot bigger here. Oh, yeah. There's a lot of clubs here now. It's different. There's a lot of like world -class comedians that moved here.
2:54:44It's kind of different. And it's just look like I just want to make it a great place for everybody. I want to fund for what we love to do. That's what we love the most about the store was the hang, the camaraderie. We're just always fucking around. Always laugh and always having fun. It was already fun hang. Yeah, and we also watch each other's sets. I like that new thing. We talk about a new bit. It's fun. But I was the best, like New York was the best gym. It's the way I would put it for comedy because of the availability of stage time. And you just kind of keep going up from like 3 p .m. if you wanted to.
2:55:15Yeah. Until like, you know, two o 'clock in the morning. And I don't think that's even true at all anymore that you need to be in that scene now at all. And that's why I mean, like you could really get full on successful and never leave your hometown. Well, hometown's wrong thing. But I said there's just more avenues I think now. Yeah. But you can get up three times four times a night here. Absolutely. So you can get the spots now. You definitely can here. I mean, especially in that one area, you got the creek, Creek in the cave, which is right there right next to us. Then you got Vulcan, which is also like half a block away from us.
2:55:48And then you have Red Band's room. The sunset sunset. What is it? Sunset ATS. Sunset room. Sunset trip. Sunset trip. Sunset trip room. And that's it. That's right next to us. Yeah. That's 500 seats plus bar shows. Yeah. And then there's playing. There's also the Velvita room. Velvita. I haven't been to that. Brom White says it's a place called the Green Room. That's a small spot. That's right over there. So there's a lot of spots. And then you're always going to have the out of town stuff. You're always going to have someone's doing a comedy show and dripping spring. Someone's doing a comedy show here.
2:56:22There's a bar. They're hiring comedians. But the industry is not leaving. That's what I wonder if it's going to go away. Yeah, sure. But there's the industry, man. The industry is kind of podcasts. For us, the industry is podcasts. The industry is podcasts and stand up. That's the industry for us. Like we think of the industry as like someone's going to hire us to do something outside of doing stand up. Yeah, right. Which is like, is that really what you're doing? Kind of over. Well, it's like, it's down like, if John don't now care about like auditioning for movies or TV stuff. It's never been my deal anyway.
2:56:52If it is your deal, that's the place to be. Yeah. But that's what you're really looking for. It's all Zoom on that shit. You're just have to find it for the final meeting. Yeah. You know, wrong. Yeah, but you got a network. Yeah. You want to make it as an actor. God, those sickening fucking networking parties about life. You have to go to the still going on. Those things, if you're someone in the beginning, you want the casting people to like you, want the executives to like you. You're like, oh, that's Jay's a charming guy. Yeah. It's really fun. Yeah. You know, you go to these things and they'd like you because you'd hang out with them and talk shit.
2:57:20Oh, the industry laughter is the worst feeling I was trying to have a good time. Literally vampires. Yep. Yep. Literally vampires. It's sucking me to like, want you talent. Chis, but that's the nature of the gig. The nature of the gig is you got to depend on other people to come up with stuff that you can get credit for. That is the way that animal feeds. 100 % to nature of the gig. And you know, you have enormous power when you're at a network like deciding what does and doesn't get on here. Everyone's going to like you. And it's all so weird. Like, you know, they have these weird sweetheart deals and production companies.
2:58:01These things, they did in the sitcom days and so like a crappy show would be on the right after friends. It would be like number two in the ratings. And everybody's like, leading. Because of leading. Yeah. These are garbage shows. Shows it would just like, oh, Jesus Christ. There's a few of them. They also ran shows. It was like in between Seinfeld and friends in between Seinfeld and ER. Paul Sims from News Radio famously called it a shit sandwich. He's like, it's like, what it is? It's like, they're sandwiching two good shows Seinfeld and friends. Some are the idea now of anything like that Abbott Elementary.
2:58:34I've never seen it, but I've heard good things about it. And it's staying around. It's popular. It's a huge, but where does that happen anymore? Like where a sitcom is like, should be anyone's an end game anymore? Yeah. I feel like if it's really good, people always love them. If someone comes up with a really good curb your enthusiasm, people always love them. They're always sonny. They always love them. They're always sonny. They always love them. They're just generally so fucking lame. But they're few and far between. And a lot of times it's just like, it seems like I feel like there's no learning from the mistakes.
2:59:03And I don't know if always. Sometimes just throwing in like, let's make you best friends with the S. Retro, like, but I mean, that just like, you know what? This guy was popular at this one point. Throw him in another show again. John Crire. It's always something. Two and a half men. It's a stop. It's just a weird life, man. It's a weird life. George Lopez is back. I don't know. It's like, George Lopez show. The other one's called, now it's called Lopez versus Lopez. It's like a lot of the same. You see a commercial. I don't know if it's a same show. And you'll come on, but on mute. And you're just like, this looks like a sketch.
2:59:33It looks like they're playing a sketch of what a sitcom was. It used to be the thing you wanted. Yeah. In the 90s when I came here, it was like, holy shit, you're on a sitcom. Yeah. Yeah. The real thing. The real thing was the development deal. The real thing was having your own sitcom. Like everybody wanted their own sitcom. And you meet these other people that have their own sitcom. Like, whoa. You know? They're Uber. Yeah, your own. That's when you almost assigned for a failure though, is when the name, because everyone, the side felt model people tried to use it. It was a Kleghorn. Yeah. Yeah.
3:00:04Costello, Sukostello had her own thing once. I remember when I was on. Built it around direct. When I was on news radio, Tom Rhodes had the Tom Rhodes show. Tom Rhodes show. He's a teacher on NBC. I was like, dude, you got your own show. This is crazy. Like I don't Tom from the clubs to see him like. You're going to be internationally famous. Tom Rhodes show. That's nuts. Was that before or after he did that talk show, overseas? Before or before. And that ended and he went. He got a job offer there and he just loved the Amsterdam. Yeah. He stood at the long hair when he was a, oh, the sicker. Beautiful hair.
3:00:37Tom Rhodes is in the running for coolest guy in comedy. Oh, yeah. He's still his nominator. What a life. What a life. Interesting guy to you, Falman on Instagram. He's always like going to these interesting places. He does a lot of traveling. He takes photos of it. I never think it's for comedy, but it always is. Yeah, it's always for comedy. That's wild. He's in the, I'm going to Ponyang. It's like, for what? You want to see some famous thing like, it's smart shows. He had an album that was just bits about local places. Like a Shanghai bit and then if I can Mongolia bit for in that town or in that place.
3:01:11And it was like 135 minutes. You imagine doing comedy for Mongolians and they get mad at you. You cross the line. Like, what? Oh, no. They jump on archers on horseback coming at you. You're so fucked. It was scary that would be piss off of you with a fur hat. Don't piss off Mongols. What's the deal with the Mongolian? Get the fume and shoes. He's got a falcon on his wrist again. It takes the mask off that fucking monster. Oh, your father pads of skulls. Imagine trying to lights on that blind menu. That's what you get. No. It's all Mongols. It's hard. They've been slicing human beings like a fucking ham.
3:01:50Sliced places and serving it to you. Jesus. The club is great though, dude. Thank you. I'm really excited. I just sat in the other room too. That was fun. It's great. Got a good late night OR vibe. It's got a good late night OR vibe in the little room. The big room is like a, it's not like the main room but it's not like the OR. It's kind of like the OR on steroids. It's just a larger OR. But it's very the sound. It's kind of, it's a real honest room. It's really good. It's set up great. Feels like a balcony from on stage but it's not. Shout out to Louis CK because he gave me some really good advice about like the setup.
3:02:29He came while we're in the middle of construction. We changed a couple of things because of his advice. I love that. Yeah, we lowered the ceiling in the little room. We made the stage smaller. The stage was like four feet larger on each side. It's like why is it so big? I'm like, yeah, why is it so big? Let's go to chop it up. In the little room. Yeah, I just said just tell me what you think. I know I'll do that. He's like lower the ceiling. I can't lower the ceiling to there. I'm in the other room like lower it even further in the other room like okay lower it. That's funny. So it gives you a really expensive advice.
3:02:57Say it and I'll do it. He goes fuck. I get rid of this wall. Damn it. A little two inches. Yeah, he just told me what he thought it was right. He was right. He was thinking about like, yeah, do it. He's like, do it right the first time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a board open. Because I thought it would be okay the way it was but it wouldn't be optimal. That's the point. Like you're doing all this construction. Why not make it optimal? You know, it just required a lot more shit. A lot more stuff have to be in place. But I mean, man. It's just run so right. Yeah, it's great. It's awesome. It looks like it feels like a club.
3:03:32You know, like a real old like this one works club. Have you farmed out like the boss jobs enough that you don't feel like you have to have weird things with people ever? Well, there's weird things. You're always going to have weird things. One of the great things about that building is the building itself. There's something about that building, man. There's something about these old, old, old buildings. I feel like they've got, there's some memory in that building. Some abortions late night. Like when we started, that's the story. When we started like right away, it was like, Jesus Christ, it feels like we've been here for like 10 years.
3:04:03Like everybody was kind of weirded out on their first set because it was just kind of crazy. Like, oh my god, we're doing it. Because we talked about doing it for two years. There's so many years it was around the corner. Yeah. Well, you know what happened. Now you know the cult. The cult. So, I just got hit by this guy on the way. Sliathered out of that fucking deal. And I had to get a new place. The building sank under a amount of comfort. Yeah. And that was after I'd already hired everybody. So, I had to find another spot. Oh, so you changed places. Oh yeah, it was going to be out of town. Yeah, the cult place.
3:04:31The cult place that we talked about earlier, the Holy Hell. That was the original place. That's so funny. It's haunted by the ghost of cheek implants. Bro, haunted by all the sorrow of people who wasted 20 years doing that. The hell wouldn't it do it? It was so sad at the end of the documentary when you see these people now regretting deeply their time of the years. They gave my life to this man and all I got was butt fucked. That's too much for a t -shirt. They all seem too much for a t -shirt. That's too much for a t -shirt. That in the beginning it was awesome. There were nice songs too. But it's always, it's always the thing in the beginning.
3:05:02It's going to be fucking. It was in the beginning. It was awesome. It was a second amendment in your first amendment. He's pretty sure he's the Charles Manson. It's like his mind went since he was the leader. They would have went every direction he wanted to go. If he goes every day, we're going to go out and give flowers to people and tell them, like, put a smile on your face. But he just started going like, nah, race war. Well, do you know about that? Do you know the whole story of a man's story? You should read this book called Chaos from Tom O 'Neill. It's great for Simmons' neighbor. You know that story?
3:05:31He wrote a book about Manson and the CIA. Like, Manson was like literally trained in LSD. They visited him, this guy, Jolly West visited him in jail. He was a part of a program they were doing. They dozed him up with acid and then gave him acid to seduce these hippies. And taught him strategies for like, don't do acid, but tell them you did, then they do it. And this is how you control them. Like, he had guided, like, help throughout his life. He was like, this is the first time, because they were trying to discredit the hippie movement and the anti -war movement, and they were trying to see if they could get a guy to convince hippies to be murderers.
3:06:09Oh, to make them like fear. He got arrested. He was on parole. He got arrested multiple times. And when he got arrested, they would always let him go. And they would always say we found out it was above our pay grade. So they were making... This is a document in this book called Chaos. You got to read this book. Because this is not like wild assertions. This is a guy who went on this, like, rabbit hole for 20 years. And he uncovered all the evidence about the case. And he's like, there's real evidence that this MK -Ultra operation, MK -Ultra mind control shit, that Manson was a part of that. And they were helping him.
3:06:40Where's he getting all this acid? And he was getting this acid, giving these kids... How does he know how to control these people and get them to do things? Like, they taught him how to do it in prison. They were also... They were never in the right mind. That's true. There was never like a clear mind in place. No, he was burned out. The program, these people, while they were high on acid, and got them to kill people. Wow, it worked. You got really vulnerable, very gullible people. You just do some up with acid. I hate your garbage man. And the next thing you know, you're fucking stabbing people.
3:07:09You feel like they're pigs. The guy, when he... I don't know if it was a Diane sort. The one over the ones he did in jail. Yeah. And then when it cuts to at one point, they go, I would only ask a few more questions that he just did what... And it's kind of like montage is him like, pointing crazy and then doing like, like, Karrot. Like Elvis Karate at one point. He must have been on such a fun level. Well, didn't he... There was a thing in the book where he threatened one of the beach boys. Because he wanted to be a musician. Of course, it did. Right? You remember that? A whole thing. Yeah, he wanted to be a musician.
3:07:44It didn't work out for him. So he was trying to kill one of the fucking beach boys. I think he was Brian Wilson. To replace him or he was... To punish him. No, so it was the beach boys. It was Brian Wilson's brother, what do you other... So whatever the Wilson it was, I believe. What did he accuse him of? So I think he just like loved getting his drugs and pussy that he would bring around. Who bring around? Charles Manson. Manson would bring around these chicks and whatever. And they'd party with the guys. And then, you know, I think he gave him like... I think he brought one of his songs to the beach boys and they recorded it.
3:08:19I think the beach boys recorded a song written, co -written at least. Yeah. Never loved. Learned never to love was written by Charles Manson. Yeah. If you've ever heard this fact before without any details, you might think that Manson had some kind of career in the music industry before he went weird. Those murders meant he was connected with a bunch of stars in Los Angeles, right? But this connection was more than professional. For a while, beach boy Dennis Wilson was actually sharing a house with the Manson family. Once Manson had already become a cult leader. By a house, we meet Wilson's own house.
3:08:50The family moved in, took over. And Wilson had a flee and abandoned all his belongings to escape the family's clutches. Holy shit. It all started in April 1968 when Wilson picked up a couple of hitchhiking women. If you've ever seen once upon a time in Hollywood, picture that scene where Brad Pitt's character picks up a Manson follower played by Margaret Qualey. The woman of the family used this tactic repeatedly to lure in new followers. The two hitchhikers offered to come to Wilson's place. Wilson didn't realize they'd take up residence following the one night stand or that their guru Charles and his other followers would move in as well.
3:09:26Holy shit. Read the next paragraph. Margaret Qualey. Also Pete Davidson's notch list. Oh, bless him, dude. Fellow beach boy Brian Wilson would later describe coming to dinner at Dennis's place and seeing him with Manson and a bunch of Manson girls all naked. An LSD orgy followed dinner. And when he declined to take part and just went for a shower, a naked Charles tried to join him there and warned him that leaving the group was not an option. Wow. You're fucking us. Oh my god. Leaving the group was not an option. No showers. You're fucking us. Oh my god. Yeah. And then the first thing. Imagine Charles Manson in your house with a boner telling you it's time to fuck.
3:10:10Get down here. This is not an option. You're, you're, you're come on. It's not an option. Yeah, but he, and then what it was, I think like, I think, go, go, go, go, go. Well, look at this. Brian got the hell out of the house that night, but Dennis stayed behind, of course, and for a while he seemed trapped. The family occupied his home for months, whacking up close to a million dollars in expenses and today's money, including a large amount just on STD treatments. Dennis putt these bog highly advanced and said he was happy the family were relieving him of the burden of wealth was sounds truly like something a lot of cult member would say they were leaving him with the burden.
3:10:47You can just give it away. Wow. And then the guy was the reason ended up at Sharon Tates was, I guess it was the producer that, I think Dennis got his venture like, okay, man, I'll try to get you like a record deal and took it to whoever this producer was and the producer was like, not interested. I think he was like, not interested and then moved the next day. Oh my God. And then so they went to the wrong guy. Yeah, he wasn't there to kill like Sharon Tate and then they just killed everybody in the house. That's so spooky. He thought he, he was like kill whoever's, oh no, was that, yeah, it was them.
3:11:17That was the show everybody in the house. That was Tex Watson. Yeah. Tex Watson was the guy who killed most of the people, right? And then there was squeaky from, we tried to kill Nixon. Yeah, I think no, no, Ford. She tried to kill Ford, right? And she wanted the ones you can like see her talk now and she's like, yeah, that was a weird decade, huh? Some of her so, yeah, I think some of her so kind of back now. Well, I know she kept going up for parole and then like, no player. She's a little too wild. She's old ladies now. It's so fun. Yeah, you know, yeah, 60s man. She tried to kill Gerald Ford in 75s.
3:11:54Even though a video of her talking. Oh wow. Not bad. Squeaky from, oh, she's young. Oh, man. But that's the thing, man, with these, these LSD cults. Like what they were doing was orchestrated. Like they were trying to figure out what was possible with LSD. They could try to make it. And the best way to figure that out was to get someone to do it on a bunch of hippies. And that way you could discredit the movement. At the same time, you could also find out what strategies you can employ to get people to follow you. And can you get people to murder people? Right. If you do this correctly. You're a nice tactic.
3:12:32If you also get it up to fuck those don't be broads, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Well, it's squeaky from. The CIA. There's real evidence in this book that they ran a clinic in Haydashbury in San Francisco. Dozen people. We know they were Dozen people at brothels. Of the sex. Yeah, right. They did it at brothels. They did this operation midnight climax. So these guys would go into these horror houses, try to have sex with the lady. The lady would give them a drink and the drink had to have acid in it. And they'd be tripping balls through a two -way mirror. Wow. And they would study these guys.
3:13:04That's what. So this is squeaky from. Is this her dog? That's not her. That's not her. No, the first one I think was her. I think that's it. Yeah. I was just going to talk to her. I thought, well, maybe I'll bring a gun. And then I said to myself, are you going to shoot it? And I said, I'm going to go see what's necessary. So I had all these thoughts about what I wanted to accomplish. And I just put the gun out and stuck it in there. And there was no bullet in the chamber. A broom door, a secret service agent grabbed it. And an interesting thing happened. A guy. You see what I mean, though? Hi.
3:13:57I'm Mara. He was wearing a yellow suit. And they had me on the ground. And I was telling him, it's okay. It's okay. It didn't go up. It's okay. The guy walked over and he picked up my hand. And I was so relaxed. Then he was talking to me. And the secret service agent said, who are you? He was going with the beard. I always wanted to talk to him afterward. Well, they're so like, they're like, yeah, well, what is that? Is that lady out of jail? Or did they film this in jail like that? Which is really creepy if they did. I think she's out of jail. She must be out of jail. I think she's out of jail.
3:14:46She must be out of jail. There's no way that if they wanted to do it in jail, they would make it look like you're in jail. That's part of the fun. Not in jail. They really did go against that. They were against all of the ideas of hippies. But wasn't that also sort of the thing? Was they supposed to be setting people up, right? They were going to go do violent crimes to blame black people to start the war. Yeah, Charles thought he was going to start a race war. But there's a lot of what they were doing was orchestrated by him, giving these people acid and telling them what to do. And then him not doing acid.
3:15:25And he was like guiding them. It's really creepy. It's almost wish that before he died, he would have told the story of like how all that happened. So he was like, you're not going to make me make them do this thing. I'll just not take the acid and I'll make them do whatever I want. Yeah, he would look, first of all, like those killings. Like he wasn't involved, knows, but he might have killed some people. There's some evidence and he probably killed someone somewhere along the line. And then there was these people that were just lost kids. Lost kids and getting dosed up with acid by like the lifetime criminal.
3:15:59A guy who was a con man his whole life working in conjunction with the CIA. If that's true, that is a fucking wild thing that happened. Yeah. And that they did it to try to stop the anti -war movement and stop the hippie movement. But we know they did certain things like that. Like I had Rick Doblin from Maps on the other day. And he was explaining how the sweeping schedule one act of 1970, a lot of it was designed to stop protests and to stop the black panthers and to stop all these other people that were doing all these different things like the anti -war people. Because then they could arrest them.
3:16:31They could arrest them for pot. They could arrest them for mushrooms. They could arrest them and this is a schedule one shit now. You're on a white. All the people that thought it was okay to take acid. Now you're going to jail and they could just round up everybody with these new tactics. Get out of the box. And then say hey, they were on acid and people like, oh, okay. They got everybody on the box. People scatter too. How committed are you to the cause of everybody's getting locked up on the government? You get the fuck out of town. You abandon chip and start a real job. A lot of people probably bailed on it.
3:16:57That's what we wanted to do. Oh, there's probably one of the many uncredited Manson family members. And they do. They pop up in like documentaries and they go, yeah, you can see me in the back of one picture. My name is Cliff. We got a lot of family members. Yeah, so I'm saying there's just some other guy who wasn't there that night. He goes, yeah, now I was back at the place getting some pussy from this new girl. I heard they went out and killed somebody. That's pretty nuts. Yeah, right. But you got a crazy time too, right? Because you're relying on newspapers. That's where you get your information from.
3:17:28And there's a little briefing on the five o 'clock news. Nobody knows what the fuck you're going on. You're hearing word of mouth, right? And you find out that these people getting murdered in the Hollywood hills by hippies. You're like, what? We got to get rid of these hippies. What? Exactly. Oh my God. They're doing the ass in the murder people. It's a perfect plan. If you really can get a guy like Manson and convince him that he's got to do this for you, and that's why he's free. Like we have you, you're free. Like he gets arrested. They get him out. Look, you owe me a piece of shit. You understand me?
3:17:58Like, and then get him to do these things. Get him to commit crimes. Get him to murder people. Get him to... What was there? There were after that Polish artist, right? Voicech, Vyckowski. Yeah, for what? Wasn't... Wasn't they trying to kill him? The Manson? Yeah. Or was he like accidentally at the house? But he got murdered too. In the Sharentate House? Yeah. Everyone in there was... It was just like a kill whoever was there. I think Manson found that when they went home that it was like, hey, that producer guy, your pistol, if wasn't there, then he just moved. Oh, that's right. That's right.
3:18:34So was it... That murder was pissing off... About saying the guy who was like, I'm not interested in your music, and I don't care. And then he wasn't even there. It seemed like it was Dennis Wilson brought him to... Okay, fine, like, you know, you're hookin' me up so much. And when the producer was like, not interested, I think he got man at Dennis Wilson. And Dennis Wilson was like, like, only like bring you to the guy. Yeah. And then so his thing was to have them go kill him that night and his family. Dennis Wilson. No, that's just a producer. And he was just a producer. Just happened to move.
3:19:09Wow. Oh my God. Like, they caught him on a day that he was moving, or his address was listed wrong or something, you know, it's just like... Right. I think you rented the house out, right? Or something like that? Yeah, because they said the charity that just moved in, and he was like, Roman Plansky was off doing whatever. Fuck. Or... Doing whatever. They said that's what killed the 60s, the spirit of the 60s. That was it. There was a lot of those things that happened, but it was very orchestrated. Like, the fact that they were able to make everything schedule one, we still have those things schedule one.
3:19:37Oh, so known. It's so long later. It's 50 years later. Those things are still schedule one. It doesn't make any sense. It's not. Also, 60s, so much young death in like, or important to people like in society at the time. So like the 27 club and all those people kind of go and down. Like, that killed the spirit of the 60s. I mean, like everyone was just gone. Oh, I guess this was like, well, the style's good. Yeah, you're like, this is a fun life of taking drugs and getting, you know, acid and it's like, oh, everyone's fucking dying. They're fucking killing beetles. Yeah. And they look killing the beetles.
3:20:15Yeah. That one thing killed John. That was 80, though. That was in the 80s. I think it was 1980. Right outside of the apartment building. Right outside. Jesus Christ. She still lives there. Jesus Christ. How about move? Yeah, how about move? That's how that works out. She still lives there. I think so. Maybe just told it. Maybe that was like a clever real estate ploy. Yeah. That's what it's worth more now. You know, like American Psycho style. Everyone in American Psycho, he goes back to that. It was in the book, too. It's even more graphic. But he goes back to one of his apartments where he left a body and it's missing.
3:20:46It's all cleaned up. It's all cleaned up in the real estate agents looking at him. Very funny. Yeah. So what are you doing here? What does it say? She still lives in the apartment building along with her. Oh, wow. Wow. It lives with her. It's probably a double. Sean Lennon is like 45 years old now. Yeah. It's a double apartment. Honestly, it lives with his mom. Maybe they enjoy it. Is that okay, Ari? It's not how it's what I'm saying now. No. It needs to be done. It doesn't bring girls home. I don't think it's sick to imagine a breastfeed still. Maybe. Maybe. He's like the Chubby DJ one, right?
3:21:15He's like the world record. We didn't know it. All this time, that's what's going on. I love those people. It's got to be a fitness book of longest breastfeeding.
3:21:27It's got an individual session. But I'm like, when did you stop? Keep it going. Stop lactating. Because it's weird when you hear about kids that are five. And you're like, what? Mommy, boob, what happened? Mommy, give me how old? If they keep sucking, it will eventually. It won't run out. It won't run out. It won't stop on its own. It'll keep going. I think it'll keep going. Boo, we're so dumb. I don't know. I don't know. We're so dumb. I would imagine that. I would imagine that. I would imagine that. I would imagine that. I would imagine that. I would imagine that. I would imagine that. I would imagine that.
3:21:58I would imagine that. I would imagine that. I would imagine that. I would imagine that. I would imagine that. I would imagine that. I would imagine that. I would imagine that. I would imagine that. I would imagine that. I would imagine that.
3:22:09I would imagine that. I would imagine that. I would imagine that. I would imagine that. I would imagine that it could happen They have people.
3:22:51I want to lose their minds because they're We're in line at a movie theater waiting to purchase their tickets and decided it was time for a breastfeeding session That's just showing off holy shit. That's big dickin That's big dickin It is not surprising the people found it to be a little awkward the ticket clerk shouted at her from behind the desk Oh my god To them heard no to them. They're not I don't know what they spell wrong That she needed to stop doing that mullen became angry because of his comment and told him I'm a mother And I have every right to feed my child in public for the more lots of women are afraid to breastfeed in public now Because I'm the same thing.
3:23:33Oh my god. I love it I Weird if I was Star Wars if I saw lady if I saw a lady a 13 -year -old boy going to one of those pods at the airport to breastfeed I'd rather find out he's fucking her Yeah, yeah for sure. Yeah, I would be less disturbed than his mom is sucking on his mom's tent Right yeah, that's the edipist thing Yeah, how do you go to school? That's homeschooling for sure. You can't go to school and you're gonna get a boner at that age That's one of the weirdest things that that A mother's son you know in in bonobos bonobos fuck everybody everybody fucks every but the mothers won't fuck their sons Interesting Everybody fucks everybody That's fuck all their kids.
3:24:19They fuck the brother. They fucked their sister. They fuck everybody But the mother's like get the fuck away from me crats Shall we let's wrap this up. Yeah, Jay Congratulations on your special your fucking hilarious. I'm very excited to work with you tonight. We're gonna have a good time Yeah, yeah, all right. We're gonna have a good fucking doing my story telling show tonight. Yes, sir That's great. All right Anything else to plug other than the specials on YouTube to be able to right now Such big J. Oh, cuz it's my first production credit for the fuck you just say what those words that flew to Remember YouTube comms last big J.
3:24:57Okay, so there you go. There we go slow down Look at it. You look beautiful up there. Oh, yeah, are you sir? Are you jump did man was pretty amazing? He helped so much. I hope he's proud of it I'm gonna say that you killed it was great and You don't excited for y 'all to see it man. Please tell friends share it beautiful comment. Oh, I think that's gonna love it Thank you so much my place brother. Bye
From the publisher
Big Jay Oakerson is a stand-up comic, on-air personality, and podcaster. He's a host of "The Legion of Skanks", "SDR Show", and "The Bonfire" podcasts, and has a new comedy special, "Dog Belly", premiering April 5 on YouTube. www.bigjaycomedy.com Ari Shaffir is a stand-up comic and the host of "The Skeptic Tank" and "You Be Trippin'" podcasts. His latest special, "Ari Shaffir: Jew," is available now via YouTube.www.arishaffir.com
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