#1969 - Sam Tallent

12 Apr 2023 · 3 h 5 min

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The Joe Rogan Experience - Episode #1969: Sam Tallent

Podcast Overview

  • Podcast Title: The Joe Rogan Experience
  • Podcast Host: Joe Rogan
  • Guest: Sam Tallent
  • Description: Sam Tallent is a stand-up comic, writer, and actor, co-host of the "Chubby Behemoth" podcast, and author of the novel "Running the Light."

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Key Themes

Comedy and Self-Perception

  • Struggles with Self-Doubt:
  • Both Joe and Sam discuss their dislike for watching their own performances, relating it to self-criticism and the difficulty of accepting one's work.
  • Sam shares a sentiment about how comedians often have a negative view of their own material.

The Nature of Comedy

  • The Role of Humor:
  • Discussed how comedy can be an escape and a form of community.
  • Sam emphasizes the importance of aiming to improve and understand the craft of stand-up.

Health and Appearance

  • Head Shaving:
  • Conversation about shaving heads and hereditary baldness. Sam mentions he has been shaving his head for 12 years, and they joke about head shapes.

Cultural Commentary

  • Religion and Belief:
  • Joe and Sam discuss the tendency of people to gravitate towards belief systems, whether in religion or ideologies.
  • They contemplate the implications of atheism and how it can sometimes have its own dogma.

The Comedy Industry

  • Road Life as a Comedian:
  • Sam shares experiences of performing in various environments, emphasizing the challenges and absurdities of life on the road.
  • Anecdotes about performing for non-responsive crowds and the self-deprecating humor that comes from rough gigs.

Current Events and Social Issues

  • Discussion on LGBTQ+ Rights:
  • The conversation touches on societal reactions to issues like trans rights and the backlash certain brands face.
  • Joe and Sam reflect on how society categorizes and reacts to different groups, and how these dynamics can be engineered to create division.

Economic and Political Commentary

  • Societal Structure and Capitalism:
  • Discussion about the manipulative nature of social movements and how they can distract from underlying economic and political issues.
  • They contemplate the idea of engineered societal divisions and how they relate to capitalism.

Memorable Quotes

  • "You have to cut the yuck out of that." - Sam Tallent on the creative process in comedy.
  • "The more time goes on, the more we look at this whole trend of the weather, the more it occurs to me that it's never been stable." - Joe Rogan discussing climate change.

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Key Takeaways

  • Comedy is a Journey:
  • Both Rogan and Tallent emphasize the necessity of experiencing failure and growth in comedy, likening it to a rite of passage.
  • Understanding Context:
  • The episode illustrates the importance of understanding context in discussions about social issues, beliefs, and comedy.
  • Community in Comedy:
  • The camaraderie among comedians and the importance of mentorship and community for growth in the industry are highlighted.
  • Humor as Reflection of Society:
  • The discussions reflect how humor can serve as a lens to examine societal issues, contrasting the light-hearted with serious critiques of human behavior and belief systems.

Conclusion This episode of The Joe Rogan Experience featuring Sam Tallent is a rich blend of humor, introspection, and insightful social commentary that explores the world of comedy while touching on broader topics of culture, belief, and the human condition.

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0:02The Joe Rogan Experience Join my day Joe Rogan podcast my night all day I'm running Santel, I'm headphones and join the fucking party Get the microphone up about like a fist from your face Jamie how's this? Do I sound powerful and elegant? Thank you Well you are powerful and elegant Thanks man You are enough I appreciate that I'm good enough I had a friend of mine and she was asking me something just about comedy And I go I just you know no one I don't like my stuff like no one likes their stuff Like you see it too much it just like it gets in your head And you like that you like I look at it like a hater And she goes I just want you to know no matter what that you are enough I go what?

0:53I go no no no no that's someone I'm saying I'm not saying like like I don't like my stuff like I have a problem Like I'm a crazy person no I'm just like that's just the process Yeah like I feel good right like but that thing that people say to people you are enough I just want you to know that you are enough Look I don't need validation from you lady She's a nice lady I'm sure she's a nice lady She's a very nice lady But I don't think you're going to her to be like can you hold my hand through this difficult period I think some people do do that to people They go fishing for that kind of response Yeah that you are enough I'm like no no I'm okay It's like look I know Look around lady I kind of made Austin a thing Yeah I know I'm okay I made it sweet of her but No she's awesome I also hate watching my shit dude She did That'd be my guantanamo That making me watch all my old specials Oh god damn it Or like a YouTube clip from like 2007 That's the thing that you have to do too Like when working on new material I need to watch her to listen to it Have to listen to it Just have to I'm going to know like what makes me grown What makes you go yuck What's the cringe in there Yeah what's the yuck How do I cut the yuck out of that It's just like you're going to have that You got to look at your hack like you're a hater Oh for sure I do Luckily I never have any moments where I'm like Oh this is working out I watch and I'm like What is your leg like that?

2:10I can barely hear the joke I'm like Jesus Christ look at your hair When did that leave? Look how far that's receding Jesus Yeah Have you always how long have you been shaving your head? Um 12 years Yeah Something like that I'm going there man Yeah it's way better Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah You don't think about it anymore It's like one less thing to think about If you have a good shaped head I don't Like some people have flat heads With their heads flat But now you got a new joke about having a flat head Yeah then I have to turn around Or have a mirror behind me That's fine Yeah it's alright I'm gonna get into props Yeah I'm gonna look at the flat Yeah no I don't have a good head It's bumpy I think if I shaved my head I would go mutton chops I would leave the chops Why don't you go fucking full sufi beard Yeah just lower Just the lower beard like from Daugherstead Yeah right here Yeah yeah yeah Oh I'm just going underneath the chin Yeah yeah yeah Yeah I'm just going underneath right I think there's some kind of like recessive allele Where they're not like God keeps them from having any hair on their cheeks There's so many Muslims who fight in the UFC Who have shaved heads and they grow a full ass beard There's the Amish one That's ridiculous So he is shaving it That shit is not catching on No Anybody Yeah that's a weird middle ground Right because he could eat food with no problem at all Which is like kind of a cop out You know what he's not eating?

3:26What? I don't think so Did not allow to eat pussy Those guys four arms Have you seen an Amish guy with his shirt off? Did you're a golf a lot of them sure You're a bit damn to do it They have to do it to memory right? Yeah I think so Like they can't be watching porn No The Amish beer is typically a wood carvings What did you say? Because Amish men shave their mustaches off You may be wondering how now if an Amish are allowed to shave While married men may shave their mustaches only Unmarried men may shave their beards too The only prohibition on shaving applies the beards of married men Oh okay so it's like a wedding ring So once you have a full beard All the hos need to leave you the fuck alone Yeah that's what it is Yeah he's taken bitches That's why he's growing his gross ass beard Yeah God forbid they see your chin Isn't that funny that you're on the marketplace if you don't have a beard You're this guy out there with no beard Yeah you're swinging your peacock in there Yeah imagine the fucking Mrs.

4:20Amish and Mr. Amish have a fight And you just watch this bitch Just half of it Shave his beard off Half way out the door She starts crying rents outside Makes some butter real quick Makes some butter They don't have any electricity They make their own houses Dude those Amish the way they raise houses so quick Oh they're really good at it Yeah and then men and nights they're you know They're like rough around the edges I don't know any men and nights but I did meet one with Ari Shafir at the airport And I found out because he asked her What are you? Yeah Classic Ari No it wasn't at the airport I'm sorry It was at a rest stop It was at a rest stop in Massachusetts I think We're here between gigs just driving to a gig What are you?

5:02What are you? Yeah what is that? Yeah it's wearing an outfit What's up with the bonnet? Which one are you? It is fucking weird though man You know what's weird is that when people do a really shitty job It's occult when they do a really good job it's a religion But it's basically the same system that it works on in the human brain It works on the same mechanisms Like someone has all the answers and they have a connection to a higher power That's why you know one thing that creeps me out about atheism It's not atheism itself It's that I think that tendency to just find a group of ideas That you will wholesale subscribe to is like built into us I think it's a cultural thing like war And I think when people don't have that If it's not like if they don't have Christianity or Islam or Buddhism or Judaism Whatever they don't have They'll put it into something else I think that I think it's a normal part of being a person for some strange reason Well yeah we were trying to find community all the time right?

6:14We're seeking ways to like make whatever our small group is be safe And maybe work with other like minded groups And when it comes to like atheism It's wild when people become fundamental about that Yeah like when you're devout to the idea of atheism it's like Exactly I don't think there's anything after this you know But I'm also not going to like become an apostate for many other ideas You know? I don't know why anybody would be sure one way or the other Oh I don't know because you have to be I think Unless something well it would help you if you were Yeah So the thing about it like Jordan Peterson says that you should live your life as if God is real And if you live your life as if God is real you will definitely live a better life I was like that's a very interesting way of thinking about it because If you're wrong there's no consequences because you just you just die But if you're living that way at the very least you'll have less anxiety Oh for sure You'll have more of a sense of purpose You probably do the right thing more often because you'll be sort of like Aiming to that like looking to do like as a good Christian Like I know a lot of people that are Christians that are really good people And it's because they aim towards that they think about that all the time They think about what would God want me to do they think about what is God teach And they like they're aiming in that they're still human they're still we're all fucked For sure But they're aiming in that direction Let's underline that we are all fucked Yeah let's not forget that It's all populist I don't like when people do things because they are trying to cast checks in heaven I do like it when you're just doing it because it's the right thing to do Like when a home when you give a homeless guy five bucks and he's like God bless you Yeah I'm the kind of dickhead who's like there's no God involved in this This is one man trying to help one man I'm doing this because I think it's gonna benefit you not because I'm joking You know I'm trying to get up to the big man That's true but maybe he's saying God bless you like he's so happy that you did that for him It's the nicest thing he knows how to say He really hopes good things happen to you as well Sure I know It's a weird thing right?

8:11Because like you feel like if you buy into it you're being a duped You're getting duped you know oh they got you they got you with that nonsense What they get you with that Mormonism shit yeah you think you're gonna get your own planet when you die stupid Which is pretty cool. Let's be honest if you're gonna pick one I have a friend in California and she was a Mormon for a long time This episode is brought to you by NetSuite until they invent a crystal ball Who knows what the future holds for business? Until then over 40 ,000 businesses have future proof their business with NetSuite by Oracle The number one cloud ERP bringing accounting financial management inventory and HR into one platform With real time insights and forecasting you're able to peer into the future and seize new opportunities Download the CFO's guide to AI and machine learning for free at net suite dot com slash rogan That's net suite dot com slash rogan This episode is brought to you by policy genius.

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11:35Yeah what the fuck? Oh yeah could you flirt with a boy talk in front of a bunch of people? Yeah like a whole bunch of people What the fuck? You thought you were going to get away with this? What the fuck? What the fuck is that? I watched and I was like this is wild Oh I remember they tried to cancel him a few years back Because he was talking about marriage and they said you took a Val Selvesee like how do you feel about this? And he's like I have so many friends and they're married and then they get divorced and they're not happy And then the woman takes all their money and this woman said something to the tune of well you know some women They make money too he's like oh good one I thought it was something Something all sure Now I've heard everything like one of those fucking it was a weird interview man But it was weird like he's like parading out these tropes Right you know about a marriage and divorce and it's really funny It's like because some of them fail but this is supposed to be a spiritual leader Right he's supposed to be like completely ascended in bigger than anybody He's supposed to be saying that some marriages are wonderful Yeah because they are For him to say what I heard is they take your money Yeah well it's like your dad's friend who doesn't get laid anymore You ever hang out with him at the bar?

13:02Your dad's friend who doesn't get laid anymore doesn't have a video of him sucking out a kid's tongue He might like what the fuck man It's probably a VHS date He's got a laser disk Did they record? I don't think laser disk records I have no idea The Dalai Lama also said at one point he was like we got to keep Europe for Europeans Yeah He's like too many refugees are coming in That was crazy Yeah like what the fuck are you saying man? Hey Dalai Lama Just let the kids sit on your lap That's enough Yeah hey dude how about don't do that But smooching the kids in general Yeah don't tell a kid to suck your tongue Is there actually not on camera?

13:42That seems like there should be jail time for something like that I don't think he can get in trouble In Tibet sticking out one's tongue is known as a traditional greeting Stemming from a 9th century myth about an unpopular king with a black tongue It's the king died Tibetans revealed revealing their tongues to show they had to become his incarnate Whoa, tongue sucking does not to be a part of the tradition That's where he crossed the line If they just stuck tongues at each other bro You were in a skated scot free The PR team is working hard spin on that Hard spin We got to reach a madhouse gets hold of it She'll find a way It happened in February And it came out like a week a couple days ago It's kind of weird It's a hit campaign against the llama I saw him talk once Sometimes it just takes a while for something like that to catch Oh yeah But today If it was Don Lemon I would say yeah they're trying to get rid of him But is the Dalai Lama I don't know I have no idea why it came out Dalai Lama was born I don't even mean to pick on Don Lemon I'm saying someone who's on television It was some like but even then It's like people if that information's available Like if someone look how many people were there Yeah That's obviously like a cell phone footage right Well it was a fundraiser for some kind of like Indian tech company How wild Yeah How wild Just be kissing a kid in front of everybody Which is already too much Tongue kissing Yeah Suck on my tongue What are you talking about?

15:11I've never had a kid that close to my own face Where I could say Suck on my tongue Isn't it interesting It's interesting like what we choose to consider intimate contact Because hands Like if he had that boy's hand in his hand And he put his hand over it and said I wish you a wonderful happy life You're a beautiful human being And just go out there and be kind to everybody Everybody but that's cool He's sweet gesture Yes, sweet gesture When you like fully hug someone You can hug him for a couple seconds You gotta let go You can't like stand there for 10 minutes Just like rubbing their back People go hey hey hey Dali Lama let the kid go You're wrong with getting tempted Yeah you broke the time clock There's a time clock that goes when someone hugs You get like a real good friend It's like you got like a 10 second countdown 10 seconds is a long time to be hugging someone Oh it's a lot Here's 10 seconds So here we are we're touching chest to chest Are genitals are near each other I can smell your neck right now We're still hugging That's kind of a hug But that's done that I've done a 10 second hug with a good friend Sure it feels good But now with a little boy that I don't know in the middle of nowhere Also how did that boy get in there I don't want to see this again I don't want to see this that boy Who snapped back like a cobra Ready to fucking strike He's like why are you making me suck your tongue You old fucking weirdo It's like when the noodle hits your lips finally And it like snaps like the sound But what I'm getting at is like it's interesting That kissing is such an intimate act Look it clearly is But I wonder how that guy even got started People's breath must have been horrible Oh that's an error rotting meat in there Oh god no Dennis Your teeth all fell out And they mostly like they got knocked out You probably got infections from crack teeth From getting hit with a rock You know I bet a lot of people died From like mouth infections You're like trying to eat everything you find Yeah you don't even know what's edible And when did they start kissing?

17:11I don't know let's find that out Let's say you guess When you think kissing was invented What it was like 1900 Yeah whenever friends became a country But it was like nobody kissed until like the 1900s It was a revolution I'm gonna guess I'm gonna guess it's like some mess of pataneous shit For sure Yeah I'm gonna guess that it started like thousand Cradle of civilization Yeah I'd say pre -periments Preep? Yeah strong Yeah strong gas What else did you have to do back then? Make a toothbrush? Why would you kiss somebody that seems crazy We were just wondering what holes are safe Yeah But you could wash the body off Like eating pussy and blow jobs and stuff That kind of makes sense You just want to get crazy I think blow jobs happened before sex did I bet you went mouth first No there was a fur covered hole down there You're trying to jam up and that thing Why?

17:59Chimps, chimps, chimps, fuck each other I've watched chimps blow each other I bet you have You've been down that road So your guess is pre -dynastic Egypt Sure I just said pyramid Yeah Well that's like 5 ,000 They didn't even really know What do you think? Jamie, what's... I got two answers I was trying to figure out But what was your question? You didn't have one? The first answer Google gives back is The first recorded kiss is 1500 BC Which sounds recent Interesting It's very recent Right below that is a link to a longer piece It says some researchers believe that kissing began Millions of years ago as a result of mouth to mouth feeding Interesting That's going into like why didn't...

18:43Interesting Everybody do it then Because you had to chew the food for the child Do you know that you can get syphilis from kissing people? No I didn't need that I saw it on a TikTok video Must be true How dirty is that mouth? It was a Instagram reel That's what it was He was like having this guy Standing there and all these different girls are coming by and kissing him And he was pointing out all the different types of diseases that you can get from mouth kissing someone Yeah Herpes and syphilis and gonorrhea All these different things that you can get from mouth kissing people I thought it was just herpes That was my biggest fear I thought so too This guy figured out a way to scare the fuck out of everybody And they're never going to kiss again I'm going to keep kissing I'm still smooching my old lady when I know Well you married but if you're some wild dude at the bar you might die Exactly Kissing can also transmit syphilis Which may present it as an oral can...

19:39What is that? Canker, canker, swarrow, and care Tea, palladium can invade mucus membranes through abrasion Therefore oral... Canker is canker Can result from kissing with a syphilis patient Therefore kissing with a... Oh well the syphilis patient If you have that horny and you're in the fucking hospital with them Like come on swan kiss That deleted scene from patch atoms Are you smooching all the sailors when they get back from They don't have much time to live Try to make them feel better They need this Yeah, I'm doing with the fuck you're on a deathbed I would smooch someone on the deathbed Easy Especially if you love them Yeah, you have to You have to buy them a little syphilis They cure that now Also, there's no way that I'm not dying before my wife You know, that's...

20:22That's your wife healthy Oh yeah, what's that supposed to mean Joe? I'm okay I think you're a comedian Most funny guys are out of their fucking minds And it presents itself in a bunch of different ways So when you say something like that It kind of opens the door for me to say Why would that be Sam? You think I'm in here wearing this 4xL sweatshirt In the Austin heat because I'm confident about my body But I think it's just because you don't have a sweet brody to you sure I don't, dude Positive push Yeah, I think if you saw me knew you'd go Huh No I think I'd go, I've seen that before You think so?

20:57I like to think I have a unique situation under here You don't No, what? I'm like buttered I'm like buttered American at the beach Well, it's normal I'm very good at the beach Water is not a problem for me, dude It's those damn sailing vessels that keep trying to arpune me When I was a kid my buddy, Jimmy His dad used to be able to go to the ocean and he was he drank a lot of beer And he would float Literally float, dude Like this dude was living the life I was like maybe it's worth it being fat just for that I'm so buoyant He would go there and just get out in the ocean and float And I would sink like a fucking rock And I was like Kind of jealous Well, I'm glad to hear your jealous of me, Joe Kind of jealous, so you could just float You know what's a fun move for me?

21:37Laying on the sand and the waves crashing me And spinning me like a new egg That's my favorite thing to do in the world, man That's nice Do you wear goggles? You just take it raw? I'll wear some goggles Yeah, you don't want that saltwater in your eyes, right? No Is that chip out of you? I go open eyes I'll go open eyes in a hot tub I freak Yeah, that's how you get syphilis That's how you get chlorine in your eyeballs Uh -huh That's okay with it Yeah Chlorine can be good for you, right? I have a chlorine pool Like we're talking with David Cho the other day And he says he's got some new shit that does like Was it used?

22:07Oxygenated water Oxygenated water Yeah, it's just like Okay Okay Yeah, I mean, whatever works, right? It's already oxygen in there, but Yeah So you can breathe the water? My pool guy said it's hard to do a saltwater one out here in Texas though He said that there's something about the heat and humidity So like you're gonna be like still dosed it up with chlorine Yeah Because that algae just grows A lot of my best moments are aquatic, honestly Really? I excel on land, I'm not that great But you get me submerged? Do you ever heard the aquatic ape theory? Oh, yeah Yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah I think I'm proof I think I'm a vestigial theory It's like a lot of interesting things that are attached to it Like the idea that babies come out like so full of fat Whereas other babies of other primates are like sinewii and muscular And they can take care of themselves way quicker than we can Yeah, we're frail Yeah, we're super frail Yeah, we're just soft little matures We're super frail, but is that the price you pay for being so fucking smart?

23:05I think you need that Yeah, it has to balance out Yeah, if we were just apex predators and also able to tie our shoes Right But that's why we associate like meat heads with being stupid Right, you know Yeah, that's no good It's tough when a meat head is also like a very well -learned Because then there's just like a bunch of stuff to be jealous of You know, like the first time we met, I don't know if you remember this We were in front of your beautiful comedy club And it was Tim Dylan was there Yeah, and we went to shake hands And my first time I met you and we shook like this Hey, what do we do?

23:37My fingers Oh, you think you're the only one up? My fingers were up Yeah, and I was like, well, I just blew it I don't even remember it Oh, I do, I've thought about it a lot, Joe Yeah, no, I was like, well, that's not how you shake hands as a human being That's what we just did it again, what's went up? It felt good, what is that? Smart one Oh, I'm good, man Scared of that shit? I used to smoke it 24 -7 What happened? I started having panic attacks Yeah, it started giving me like heart attack symptoms That was fine No, I wrote it out too I tried for like three years after that shit started happening I would just be like getting high in a car And I'd feel like something fluttered in my chest And I'd be like, well, who's how I go down?

24:08Waiting in line at Chick -fil -A Maybe it was the wings of angels It could have been, yeah Yeah, is that LDS lady? That Mormon lady who loves snake oil so much She believes in capricorns In the arms of the angels That's what it is, that's the flittering That's the flittering inside of you I mean, when I go down, I'm gonna go down You think so? You're thinking about it Of course, all the time How old you now? 35 You look good for 35 Come on Come on, Joe What the fuck, man? I see three angels you're pushing for I would like to hit 70, that'd be sick How you could do that? Yeah Yeah, well Because the meat's not marbled the way you think it is Like, yes, there is this like topsoil of soft doughy fat But underneath there is some bulk Yeah, did you do sports as a kid?

25:00Oh, yeah I'll stay Do you exercise it all now? Yeah, were you all staying in what? All -state football? No, shit Yeah, well Yeah, me and Shane would have been the hell of an offensive lot Why are you and Shane get together and fucking snap each other in the show? Shane's actually gotten in shape I know He's a lot better Yeah, he's a starting a little bulky again Uh -huh He's obsessed with his body steps Show the guns, show the guns They're pretty big I know Big guy And like, there's this like cage fighter in Arkansas That used to open forming Chris Pierce And he like made me buy weights during pandemic Because he was just like body shamed me to the point of me Well, it's either this or a bullet in a gun, you know?

25:34So, I got in there and I've been like, you know, dead lifting and shit And everything with my legs, it's the upper body that I fear because it's so weak Well, he get into shape, buddy All right, I'm trying, I want to live Okay, as I light it to go Listen, one third He can help you Yeah, I know people in Denver Yeah, there's a lot of good gyms in Denver I know, I live in four columns now Oh, how far is that? An hour? Okay, I'm also on the road all the time Right, so it's really hard to be a human being when you're It's hard out there Yeah, the road is tricky Like you gotta treat it like work She's a sickle bitch the road When you get into that hotel room, you want to take a nap But you really can't, you really gotta go to the gym Or you want a nap after you whack That too You want to pull a bud and then you want a nap And if I know I need to be there If I know I need to be there That's when I'll give you an old part of a rickshaw I gave it up You gave it beaten off I got to save it for my wife I got to give her my essence I get it Yeah, trying to make kid No I just want a good volume Well, yeah, I'm worried about it I have to load I want it to be a bulky deposit Imagine if your self -esteem was connected to the size of your load When you're mad, it is dude I mean, but sort of Yeah Not so crazy Like if it's a big one, it's like whoa But if it's like a regular one, it doesn't like bum you out No, in fact I'm excited when it's little Yeah, it's less of a mess Because when you're in a hotel, you know where it goes That's right Yeah, you got a shower off Or immediately Immediately Yeah, he just glazed the ham And then he go hop on the shower Just do a gator roll in the sheets Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha It's totally up to you Make it the highest problem Ha ha ha ha Yeah, but then you have that sheet stuck to you And you look like the dumpling paper?

27:17Well, not you, but my body Just live in shame I do That's what we do Except it If I was confident, I wouldn't be funny You know? It's the craziest part of this whole thing Well, it's definitely like a motivating factor, right? Yeah Yeah, it's interesting like the different Motivating factors that people get into When they get in the comedy Like what year were you when you thought about doing it? Dude, there's like a video of me As like a two or three year old sliding into the kitchen on my knees Saying, I just flew in from Vegas and bore my arms tired It was like a preconceived like there's no thought I'd have no memory of not wanting to be a comedian Wow, what year were you?

27:57What, how old were you? Rather when you first tried it 2005 I was 18 Wow Wow, that's a good time Yeah I started when I was 21 Because I thought you had to wait until you were 21 to get into the bars To get into the bars Then I met a guy there who was 19 I was like, how'd you get in here? And he's like, okay, just gotta tell him that You know, you're here to just do comedy And they make sure you don't drink The extra hands, you stand by the door Is that what I'm saying? The square lounge, the lion's lair in Denver That's great What a good time to start Dude, it was perfect And also, girls were involved now And all of a sudden I was like, you know, desirable Because you're fine Because you're funny Yeah, yeah And then you're also like, bright eyed And you just said, I have this like all consuming romance to my life You know Well, there's a thing about someone who's obsessed with a goal It's very attractive to people Because it's like secretly what everybody kind of wants to be And some, not everybody, but a lot of people want to be in some ways Like really dedicated to some dream Yeah There's a great video that we put up on the mothership Instagram site And it's Bill Burr And Bill Burr is talking about, you know the video?

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30:56You don't it always leads to something better always All right, starving artist I slept on a futon till I was 36 I don't fucking regret any of it I was dating this woman and I said I had a spot I had to go do and it paid $8 at the comic strip During the week Tuesday night I went down there and I came back I tried out a new bit and I was doing a... And afterwards I was at home in my apartment and I was doing this silly dance in the kitchen Because I had a new bit and I was psyched because I'd gone through this period where I wasn't coming up with any new material And she was laughing and then she got a sad look on her face and I said what's the matter?

31:36And she said I wish I had a job where I only got paid $8 yet I came home and I did a silly dance in the kitchen The responsible thing to do is to listen to your heart It wasn't hard to work at the shitty job because I was always thinking about the exciting job I was going to do afterwards And every night that I just went up on stage and if it just went moderately okay I couldn't believe it I couldn't believe... I have to be honest with you like... I couldn't fucking believe that I was actually doing it That I was actually... I had a dream and I was making it happen And I still remember the first time I really went on stage and I actually got in the zone for what was considered a zone at the level comic I was And I only was in the zone for about 8 seconds I was at Nick's comedy stop in Framingham on Route 9, it doesn't even exist anymore And I just got on this role of laughter that I was actually able to pause and fucking be in the moment and enjoy it rather than be like Oh my god what's my next joke what's my next joke And that fucking feeling can carry you through a fucking shitty job for a week Freightstone, the excitable boy, what he went by, I did a room for him and he gave me $5 gas money I probably spent 10 to get there and I couldn't fucking believe it And I was like I did that and they gave me this, I couldn't fucking believe it At what point just listen to the sound of my voice as I'm talking about this Have you ever had that level of excitement doing any other fucking job That's what it's like when you go after a dream job So nothing, nothing is worse than not going after it Yeehaw, it gets me fucking fired up dude Yeehaw, yeh fucking haw Yes, I had no regrets, I was eating out of dumpsters, I was sleeping on floors You ate out of dumpsters?

33:47Hell yeah dude, what did you get out of a dumpster? You'd go to 7 -11 and you would get when they threw out the chicken wings and the pizza Would you like, did you time it? Yeah, he knew the dumpster, he could get in there quick There was a window, you know, there was about a half hour to an hour when he knew it was gonna hit the dumpster What's the best thing you ever got out of a dumpster? Chris Aunts, damn And bagels, an upstate in the air They were on trash, yeah Oh no, yeah, oh no it's right But also I didn't have a job, you know What was the trash that they were on though? We were talking cardboard boxes We were talking food and coffee grounds Yeah, who's that, who's it all sorts?

34:22Oh boy, yeah But I didn't have to wake up at any time, you know It was a survival mechanism because I was attacking stand -up so hard Yeah, sleeping on the ground, taking greyhounds All that shit now you look back and you're like That's romantic I remember the bus days Yeah, I did the bus to at least two gigs that I can remember It was like, oh my god When you're on the bus man, you're on just like Who knows how many serial killers are with you? Who knows how many fucked up people are on that bus? That was the only white boy on a bus from Houston to Lafayette, Louisiana How was that? It was awesome, it was a mobile party dude It was like a cameo video, yeah Because I was sitting in the back and then the bus loaded up And people were passing around bottles of gin And I had a weed hash pen So as soon as that gin bottle hit me, they all looked at me And I was like And then I hit the weed pen and blew it out And everyone was like, alright, and then the pen circulated By the time I got off that bus, I was black out drunk But boy was I invited to do a lot of barbecues That was awesome, man That's awesome Yeah, they do church better, they do buses better Yeah, black folks got a lot of stuff figured out Very high people having figured out, yeah Yeah, we're so uptight man Well, their church is definitely more fun Yeah, there's no more fun in America than the black churches They dance and sing I'm sure you've seen that video of Biden at a black church I just stand there like, not know Everybody's like, how it a great fucking time My favorite video from a black church ever is the, I'm not gay no more Dude, slam dunk That guy deserves a goddamn Academy Award For just for just the entertainment value of that video And the acting, because he was clearly still gay He's delivered bro I'm not gay no more I am delivered Look at him Look at these dances I'm not gonna win, I'm not gonna win I'm not gonna win And my favorite part is when everybody dances with them And they do like one of the gays things ever They surround them Like a gang bag And he loves it This is like 30 guys around them Look at his complex bow tie That bow tie is outrageous for a straight man I am delivered It's again Which is big, yeah Where are you lying in church?

36:42That's the same way that a 12 year old boy that is straight Lies about getting pussy I've had pussy Women women women women All kinds bro Yeah, they're all dancing together I think he came out recently and was like That was a lie, I'm still very gay Of course, good for him Good for him The very truth If you want to get accepted in that religion They have a thing about gay people Like in a lot of religions Not just that one Not just Christianity But Andrew called well Mr. Delivert That's hilarious That's the best way to say it I am delivered That's good branding That's not bad Now we helped him give him a little boost It's just fucked You can't be both religious and gay Like what?

37:32Gay guys are super fun Gay black guys Oh my god, no more church of all time Gay black church I think they call that the club That's just a foam party When we lived in Hollywood Right down the street from the communist door When he drove there on the way to the 405 It's five blocks of party They're going off Just randomly see dudes With like Chaps on And cowboy hats with no shirt Oh yeah Just kissing on the street Wearing sunglasses at 3am Yeah, I always joke around about it But it's like five blocks of no one saying no Because it's all yang, no yang And no one can get pregnant It's suck my tongue It's a lot of that Okay, here's a suck my tongue thing Here's the problem with that video And conspiracy theory Is that there's elite pedophiles that run the world Uh -huh And I was...

38:32I'm always reluctant to buy into that But then I watch a few documentaries You know read a few cases And then you hear about the Epstein and the island thing And then you know he gets out of it the first time The Franklin scandal There's a bunch of those And you go, how... Like, does that still exist? Like is it happening right now? Yeah Is it in someone's gonna uncover it? We... the Catholic Church How crazy is it? The Dalai Lama I mean who knows? Maybe he just thinks it's funny It was a bit he was doing Yeah, a little funny thing We've all gone boy We've all had a boy suck our tongue Yeah, he thought it was gonna get a laugh Yeah, that's how it would kill It's a good closer Yeah, just a freak...

39:19it's shock... Jock stuff Yeah, exactly, he's like, blah blah the love sponge I like blah blah I got nothing against blah blah, it's a hilarious name Blah blah is a good guy Yeah Maybe it's um... I think that it's legit man Maybe it's just... But it's a chicken or the egg Right, right, right, right, that's the thing that people always say about Whatever it's a child molester is in particular Yeah, it's someone did it to them Right, and they're... people heard people Yeah, and that they're somehow or another Pawsed in that stage of their emotional development Where they got raped It's like when you hear like an adult woman who still talks like a nine -year -old girl You're like, oh no What happened here?

40:01Some girls do that just to play dumb with you Yeah, I'm a real pian Boy do I fall for that And then you hear him on the phone with their accountant Yeah, whoa So you have an accountant? This bitch is talking to me Why, I think she can talk so well When she's around me she plays dumb That'd be a great move for a girl Like to like you know go after some old billionaire Uh -huh, just to be honest And in Nicole Smith? Oh well, she's like a real clear transactional agreement Dude, she got me going as a young buck She was honest for a lot Bro, there's so much woman So much woman That was a big old Texas woman Yes, that was around her 60 pounder I bet 220 by the end Yeah, the end is not when I'm going on Going on the thicker days Yeah, when I could actually get her When I had a shot The end, if you just had a bag of pills Yeah, you just shut her in the early early days Yeah, and look, she was lovely But I'm talking deathbed in Nicole Smith Oh boy, that's her little larger Yeah, she's punishing that guy's lap That's what I'm talking about Yeah, when your femurs are sore He's gonna get nerfed out of the room God damn dude She was super hot when she was young I think top to bottom I see no faults in her Yeah, well, she's a fucking genetic specimen And then there's a lot of You know, sort of an invention Thank you for bringing me back To be victim, isn't it fascinating that like big giant fake tits are so attractive to men And it's so obvious, it's like the most obvious trick of all time Yeah The most obvious trick Like we know 100 % of the time when they're fake And no one cares Well, we also love up close magic And we know that's a ruse Yeah, but up close magic is like way more deceptive You know, they're really good I had David, you know what I'm saying Like what is he doing?

41:50David Blaine freaked me the fuck out man Cause he did, Jamie's good at spotting this shit too And Jamie sat there and goes, I'm just gonna watch Everything he does, I'm gonna keep my eyes on And I'm gonna try to figure out what he's doing And he could not figure it out And the dude rolled his sleeves up too To show it, it was wild shit He was doing some wild shit He was doing some slide of hand that was like He might know real witchcraft Yeah, yeah, yeah, this might be like one of them comic book Things, the guy makes a living Like being a magician but he's actually a wizard Uh huh, like legitimately Yeah, I'm still had to pay the bills Did you feel like that?

42:22He's a wizard, yeah, it's not real He's not a real person I also didn't want to know, cause then it ruins it That does dude, yeah, fuck it I mean, do things that was like totally real Like when I stuck that metal rod through his skin, I'm like, I know what you're doing You just can deal with pain Did you see what happened to him recently? And it was showing Vegas? No Two accidents happened Oh no, with Blaine? Yeah, one, the first one was Crazy, but then another one happened First one, you know the uh It's an illusion if you go over there's like a spike And then there's like bags or cups over One of the spikes and you gotta like Oh, and he hit the spike He pulled someone from the crowd and they picked the wrong one And his hand went right through it Oh no, a guy in the audience did Oh, it was a woman, but yeah Oh no, a woman's hand No, no, put his hand through it Oh, not Jesus Christ, sorry And then another one, he jumped off of a very high thing Into boxes And hit the ground and separated his shoulder And had to have doctors from the crowd come in And try to like put it back in place Oh no Like in the middle of the show, it took like an hour Oh no, it's like a work man It's what it sort of seems that way It's actually enough of his show I don't think so man, I think he's a fascinating guy Yeah Really fucking smart dude and really nice guy too And he is obsessed with like First of all, the slide of handshit It's insane, right?

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43:42Jamie? Oh yeah, no, sure Tell me, like when you were watching it, tell me you weren't Like absolutely blown away There's extra stuff going on that you can't even, you'd have to break it down for about an hour to someone's room Like watch him on high speed video And then slow it down to like a couple frames a second Here's the jumping accident I don't want to watch this You can barely tell what happens Oh dude, how can I tell what happens That's fear factor Bro, that's just ridiculous Oh no Glad he wore a love mic for that They edited the video Jesus Christ, he was in pain there So he's a skilled magician and he's also like willing to get hurt And he also is willing like stand on ice for three days That's not magic though No, well he was just standing on ice Yeah, he did a lot of those weird things There's a magic to that though, that's like mind over matter It's like an ancient kind of magic For a time before language If it was real mind over matter, you could do it forever It's not mind over matter It's just will You just have to be able to tolerate extreme cold Yeah, just deal with it And you do breathing exercises to force your body heat Stay warmer But then there's also like the contact of your skin versus the cold That'll eventually You get a thermal layer One of the things that happens when you put ice on something Is it develops a thermal layer Your skin gets really red underneath it If you ever look at your arm When you pull the ice off Like it's all red You know, when you get out of a nice bath Your skin is super red And that's what's going on You develop a thermal layer I look like a newborn baby after ice I'm so pink I think the same thing is probably Probably applies to that I think you're after a while The parts that are touching the ice It doesn't bother you as much anymore Like whether it's the bottom of your feet You could get frostbite Did he have anything on under his feet When he did the ice he was closed Oh, okay, well that makes more sense Yeah, probably have to be So your body doesn't touch the ice Just encased Yeah, so basically He went full and see how man If you have like, I don't know what he was wearing Right?

45:58But you can wear some stuff that's remarkably warm Even if it gets wet Like marino wool Oh yeah You can wear like a marino wool layer He could have like a thick layer And like, what is he wearing when he was in the ice He's shirtless right there Does he go out to take a leak? No, that's the only way he warms up A very alive block of ice for two days So he's in a block of ice What shirt was for two days? Seems like he took it off Because he has So he's like, that's hot, it's fucking here We're sure that's not Drake He's a handsome fellow isn't he? Oh yeah, look at his body Legendary pussy -getter this guy Look at David Blaine's body Oh yeah, look on that one Jesus, you sexy bitch Super, like I said, super nice guy too That's how I see myself in my head That's how I think I look up top By the way, he was doing magic tricks for everybody Yeah He did him for my daughter came over, he did it for her He was doing it for security guys He's doing it for everybody It was amazing It's really dope And no one figured out what the fuck he's doing No, but like you said, you can't look into it Do you know how you feel?

46:58Ruins it I felt bad, I did He didn't say anything I don't think he did that He bitched out That's what he just said I just heard, I bitched out If I got a video, I'm fine From behind, which like he didn't approve That's true From behind is bullshit Yeah But if you can get it from the front And see the hands moving He was showing someone else the thing And I walked up behind him with my camera And I was like This feels Yeah, but couldn't he make the footage disappear? He can make Jamie disappear Yeah, he could with that body He could with that body Oh yeah You'd love it down there, Jamie Yeah, there's something I found in the song There's a video recently about this FC Nyland thing I was trying to figure this out to show with that But that's showing what they showed I was trying to prove it If you go back on Google Maps This pot right here, which used to be a tennis court Let me put it on the screen It looks like There were Dungeons?

47:51Digging of some kind of multiple small holes Little braids Tiny graves Let me show you the What? Let me show you the thing The picture Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute First of all, why would you do that when you have the ocean right there? It doesn't make any sense Also, one of those creeps doesn't want to eat the kid after he fucks But if you drop someone a dead body in the ocean I would think that would be a way better way of disposing a dead body Yeah, for sure Then you have chum No one's going to notice it No Oh, it's a tennis court Hold on, hold on, hold on Like there's direction No, it's over time That's how you used to look Right?

48:25And that's how it kind of looks now Okay, like they buried, they put up this weird wall Right, it's like a Mayan court It's like a Mayan court Okay, I'm trying to find the picture I saw Where is this some four -chanshin? A little bit on the front That's why I was trying to find a little bit A little bit, a hundred percent Jamie just went full queue and on It's really good stuff comes through Where we go one, we go all He went all in You're through the looking glass, Jamie There's still, I feel like there's still stuff up with this That we're not going to find out I saw a dude recently with a jacket on Like a bomber jacket And said where we go one, we go all No, dude Yeah, you got to give up, man You guys lost I met some lady I met some lady in Aspen And she was with her daughter She was like in her probably her early 60s And she comes up to me I love you I'm like, oh, thank you That's so nice to you She goes and Donald Trump's our real president I'm like, he's definitely not And his daughters, her daughters rather were crying They were laughing so hard They're like, my mom's crazy I'm like, your mom's crazy What did you say?

49:35I was saying we call their queueing on mom all weekend She and I have for queueing on mom We're round the town It's crazy, that was the Nice lady, very nice lady It sounds great Sweetheart of a lady Yeah, that was the thought she had to communicate to you She just wanted to let me know I'm a paid treat as well Like, oh no, what if I'm I got to like look at some of them TikTok clips Yeah, people getting the wrong impression of me I fucking, it was a Bernie Sanders supporter I know, these people are so silly Yeah, people love to fuck it and try and make people into what they aren't Oh my god, they try to force them into an narrative Well, it's for me, it's just because of first of all It looks like I should be I'm a meathead, you know, I'm covered in tattoos And I do cage fighting commentaries Right, yeah, and I'm a dirty comedian There's no way you're progressive And I'm a defensive comedy Yeah, yeah, but so you get you get just lumped in I know, but it's fun to be lumped in It's fun because one thing that happens is people like severely underestimate your ability to like have a conversation with them Right If they're cocky and shitty You know, like some people just say things They don't even know what they're talking about They're repeating a narrative And you say, actually that's not true Right, here's why it's not true And then you see this like look of panic When they realize that they're going on assumptions So they went back on the land here And this is in 2006, that's what I was like What the fuck?

50:56Which is when obviously they were there And that stuff was going on still And those aren't just like What if those baby turtle eggs were laid Or not here that way No, it seems like it's pretty high up I think that's where the tapes are, buddy That's what it takes I wouldn't say bodies I would say if you're gonna bury bodies You'd bury them in the ocean Or you burn them You take them down to the... Yeah, you could do that You could burn them and take them out to the ocean Like why would you, when you have the best place To get rid of a body ever Why would you put the shittiest place to get rid of a body Shallow grave Shallow grave in a very obvious place Where people could photograph it with satellites When you're already some sort of intelligence operation I get the fuck out of you When you have a sod behind you You're gonna do poppers graves And last you're so cocky Like fuck and put them anywhere Who cares?

51:44We're untouchable Last things I remember hearing when he died Was that he had a big giant cement truck Shipped out to the island And it means like fuck Breaks for damning Exposed day was released Pain machine up for machine up front So it would arrive quicker As experts say he could have literally covered up evidence Oh Jesus That is bad branding Petophile island They should have fought for something different You know that island still for sale Yeah, yeah, yeah We had discussions Oh yeah Purchasing it for a podcast island Doing the podcast in that big Dude, it's mosque What is this? What does he have?

52:18That temple Yeah, that temple Dude This is the thought The temple is beautiful on the outside It's like the colors of the Israeli flag It sounds proof in there already There's no way he's a massage No, he has a fucking building the color of the Israeli flag That's like I mean that's like if you went to Kid Rocks house And it had a fucking A giant billiard hall This is covered in an American flag from the roof That's like make sense This kind of literally This is how much he supports Israel He turned his fucking temple into an Israeli flag It's on the nose It's so on the nose If you put that in a script They'd be like Yeah, so on the nose We would have to hire a couple Jews for representation You guys are being We want to make sure that this is appropriate Is that R .E .L .E .V.

53:01there? Yes R .E .V. will run the island R .E .V. needs a podcast studio And he likes to be away from people So maybe that's actually a good spot for that It's a game of favor Yeah, yeah It's probably a good idea And it's a write -off But if you bought pedophile island You would have to destroy all the buildings Because I'm sure they're all bugged to hell Which is a high -tech shit that you're never going to be a spot There's a camera in every toilet in there Which would be terrible for comedians They talk so much shit Try to have B .C .I .L .E. And if you got audio of that But then again Look, it's something if you're on the pedophile island But if you riff and use the N -word It's all over for you And here's the other thing with A .I.

53:40today How would you even know what's real How the fuck would you even know? Is this it? Is this not up there? I don't know when Oh my god, look at that place Yes Bro, that place is dope That looks almost Alex Gray style Look how beautiful it is It is It's really just a facade But we don't know what's underneath it Because that door is not real right? It's not a paint It's not a paint It could be JR There's a window that you can see Yes, Jerry Yes, Jerry You can see there's a window there Okay, so inside What a shitty window Yeah, and so inside is that area Where we'll set up the tables Yeah, nice one And we're going to need Elon's help to get Like solid satellite Wi -Fi out there Yeah, I see You could just project him Dylan's face on the side of it That's kind of small for a studio We might have to expand Yeah Make some more windows It was built for kids This is They didn't have adults They didn't have adults in mind When they built that thing Did you think that small?

54:34You just see the cages Imagine if you go in there It's a bouncy house It's a ball pit It's a ball pit It's kind of a bitch I had to take my shoes off still Kids, you guys want to go to the ultimate bouncy house I'm talking on an island On a private island, just a bouncy house You want to go where Mr. Chuckie Cheese lives? You know, Alex Jones told me about that place A long time ago It was one of the things that Alex tells you stuff And you'll say like All these things that make sense And then he'll tell you one Where you go, wait a minute This was one of the wait a minute There's an island They take them They have underage girls And they compromise them sexually It's like, what?

55:09It's like he's here These guys hung out there apparently These guys hung out on the island I mean, this is close to two years ago Same video Oh wow They just kept going back They're just sleeping around Why bet? There's no one there Who the fuck wants to be the guy guarding pedophile island Who's the groundskeeper Probably nobody wants to go there I bet you can go there How come attackers haven't showed up yet? You guys are really just depressing me You're lack of ambition It's get some graffiti It's so easy to just tack downtown L .A. Get out to pedophile island And leave your fucking mark Do you think I'm moving subway cars cool?

55:40Get out there, tag up the temple Imagine if we put that out there in the world We just didn't cut to Taggers If we could speed boats With like giant sacks of spray paint Or headed towards pedophile island It just says Bert Greyser is fat Yeah I know a guy who's a tagger In L .A. He's an interesting guy And he's really good at it It makes cool shit It's cool It's an art form It's illegal You shouldn't do it You're doing it to people's houses and shit and property And I don't know Well most of them don't do it to houses and property No They do it to like a band of buildings Which is fine And they do it to like Like a structure is under the L .A.

56:19river Which is like who the fuck is going down there Yeah, a lot of bridge pillars and shit Yeah The L .A. river is a weird thing man Because it's barely a river You know what it really is? It's an excuse to pollute the ocean Yeah That's really what it is How so? Because it runs, it's covered in cement It's just a big cement thing And it runs straight into the ocean So any time it rains All the shit from all the streets Gets in that water All the shit And then that shit goes out into the ocean There was a guy that I used to take yoga with He was a yoga instructor from Australia In Australia he surfed all the time And so when he came to America There's one of the reasons why he wanted to teach out here On the coast or out there on the coast Is that he gets surf all the time And no one told him to not surf after the rain Oh shit Apparently when you surf after like heavy rain Like it's been raining right now All the pollution from all the oil and all the cars And all the fucking bottles and cans And everything Use needles It all just goes out that big giant cement trough Into the ocean Just a bunch of spec scripts in there See if you can find what it looks like What the LA River looks like This is where they, like the big concrete enclosure Where they have car races and all the fasts in the furious movies Exactly A lot of times it's dry And sometimes and people fish in it There's videos guys fishing in it And catching the fish and eating them No, what's in there?

57:39Carp? Gar? I don't know what's in there Probably carp And maybe some other like blue gills or something like that Maybe I don't know, I don't know what's in there But this guy catches them and cooks them and eats them And it's really disturbing Because like I know you're doing this for the grand But you might die from this Who the fuck knows what's in that water? Not me So this is the LA River Oh God, dude Look at this, they're just pulling giant chunks of shit There's so much trash And so the LA River When it runs into the ocean This fucking dude was out there surfing And he said, he goes, man, I got really, really sick Yeah I just was really bedridden, I felt terrible And then people told him, yeah man, you can't, he's like Oh great, it's after the rain perfect, no one's out here Great waves, you know, kind of stormy Uh huh But nobody, you gotta stay the fuck out of there Oh my God, dude It's really weird, man Crews rescue a man from the rain swollen LA River Oh, the guy got trapped He was down there fishing I wonder what happened, he probably fell in, man Probably drunk Every time I fall into the river I've been drunk This is wild, so is that the rescue guy?

58:50Where's the dude? Oh Jesus, so they got to swing him over? That is crazy Imagine rescuing this dipshit going, hey bro, what the fuck are you doing? Are you gonna get me killed? I was waiting for my uber Look at this Oh, we hit the wall Hang on bitch That guy's not even holding onto that guy Did they have him on a harness? Oh they do, okay they have him on a harness Look, he's got him in full guard He's got his back mount Look, he got better watch his neck Wow So the LA River is kind of fucked It's kind of, it's kind of not really a river I mean, it is a river I guess I don't know what it was before they cemented it up But that's what it looks like Look at that, that's a car Floating down the LA River And that goes straight into the ocean So all that runoff From all those streets and all those cities and all that pollution I don't think there's a filter that stops it when it gets to the ocean There's not a filter big enough Yeah, there's not a filter big enough It's kind of crazy It's not kind of crazy There's a great song LA River by Honey Honey Okay There's a friend's mind from LA Yeah, there's a great song but it's about a fucked up One of the lines is thought of saw a body by the weeds That's where River Phoenix died He died in front of the Viper Room Viper Room, right?

1:00:07Yeah So that's what it looks like with water without water Show it again without water So when you go down there without water people are like hanging out down there You can skateboard right here by Yeah But there's a lot of like fucking sketchy people I know And if you're deciding like what you want to do today man Let's go down the fucking LA River and start some shit I mean you're dealing with the Dregs of society There's going to be some water moose to be found Oh dude There's a lot of flip phones A lot of Android Well like There's old car phones There aren't a lot of burn or 7 -11 phones A lot of people just living out of their shopping cart A lot of like crazy people, homeless people Have you seen the shopping carts that are turned into grills?

1:00:50No, but that's a good move That's a really good move Solid move Yeah I mean shopping carts you can steal them Oh yeah And if you just, it's the right metal Yeah Makes sense You turn it on inside Got your fish You put it on that It's a fucked up place in San Francisco Because they pay them They pay them to be homeless They give them money every month And guys move there to be homeless Yeah, it's a good come up for the outside people Do you see about that dude The cash app guy who got stabbed there? Yeah, of course There's a video apparently of him like trying to get help Oh no He's lapsing and getting back up Dragon for help Trying to get help I don't know exactly what it is Well I didn't want to watch a I don't know Watching God die No, it's not my thing Every face is of death I do, you know, I was just talking to the Protectop Park guys that are going to talk about this because I'd watched one to many accident videos for the day.

1:01:38I was like, how many accidents you guys seeing? Because on Instagram in particular, I see so many car accidents. I hate it. So many people getting hit when they're on a motorcycle, and so many people on motorcycles hitting cars and going flying to the air. Like I'm seeing so much of that, so much more than I ever saw before. You get to get out of that algorithm, man. Oh, it's too late for that, isn't it? Yeah, my algorithm's chaos. Mine's clean. What is yours? Mine's pretty good, man. What do you got in there? It's a large saggy breasts and then cooking videos. I have a lot of cooking videos, man.

1:02:07But I also have a lot of car accidents. Yeah, I don't have any car accidents. I have a lot of people getting shot. There's a lot of people getting attacked by animals. There's a lot of animals attacking other animals. It's going on over there, Joe. Yeah. That's what's catching your eye. Uh -huh. Okay. Well, mine's all like a tours of the Amsterdam River and shit. Today, I spent quite a bit of time watching an eagle paralyze a hyena. Wow. He had landed on the hyenas back and he's pulling the hyenas spine apart. No, I like that. And the hyena has his back legs aren't working. So he's trying to drag himself away from this eagle.

1:02:42Like a blue test. He's bouncing around. He's actually incredibly strong. He can actually like suspend his back legs and move with his front arms because hyenas are that strong. His eagle's eating his back. It's wild to watch. I couldn't escape an eagle. He's got a wild -right nature. So brutal. Yeah. You ever see the Mongolians when they have eagles on their arms and they chase them after wolves? Yeah. They let them go to kill wolves. Yeah, and they have those hoods for the eagles and the hawks. That's a beautiful life. Living on the Mongolian step. Just eating horse milk all the time. Hunting with a bird.

1:03:12Back in the day. I mean, currently. Well, I don't think those guys do it all the time. I think they have competition out there. There's another video I saw I was trying to find with this popped up too. There's people that do like drive by, found one. What the fuck? Oh my God. So you throw them and you just jacks a bird. Oh my God. What the fuck? Isn't that crazy because they're not that much bigger than the birds. They're jacking. You know, it's like a defensive lineman. We're running around there jacking and eating people. You know what I'm saying? If Warren's app got loose. It is shove Warren's app out of a window.

1:03:43Indomac and Sue for sure is eating someone. Derek Wolf was in here the other day. Oh, yeah. Former Bronco. Former Viking. Former Bronco. And go back in the little lineage. There's not a doubt in my mind that somewhere in his ancestry. There was a bunch of people on a fucking boat waiting to cut people's heads off. 100%. He's a berserker. A hundred percent. Now imagine if guys like him, we're like that Falcon. Just running around jacking smaller things like how could not that much different. A guy like him eating a guy like me is not that much different than a Falcon taking out a crow. No, I think that's much different.

1:04:21That different. I think he would eat me first. He did whoever the fuck he wants. Whoever he wants at any time. He would just stop him from eating you. He'd be lucky if he ate you. Yeah. That'd be better than what he also could do to you. I used to have a joke about Brock Lesnar that I'm not worried Brock would rape me. I'm worried he would use me as a condom to rape something way bigger.

1:04:42I'm like Brock, why are we going to the zoo? Shut the fuck up. He's just rolling up to the panda cage with you in a bag. He shoots the locks off. There's a video of Brock Lesnar shooting Prairie dogs with a 50 cowl berrival. How much Prairie dog exists in after that? Very little. Very little. And I was like, why would someone do that? But then someone informed me of what Prairie dogs do. A lot of horses, they fall into their holes and snap their legs. Oh my god. Yeah. It's a monster. It's a monster. It sucks fat dicks. It's no good. It's so mean. The more I find out about it, the more I want to know less.

1:05:19Bro, it's so mean. Yeah. Yeah. Dolphins? Dolphins just fucking pufferfish and passing them around, getting high off of them. Well, but what I watched today is probably the most ruthless shit. I was talking to a friend of mine today. The lady who gives me the IVs. I get an IV twice a week, like a vitamin IV and an ADIV. And so we're watching, we're talking about nature. And I could you ever see the hornets killing the bees. Yeah. Kind of honeybees. Don't they vibrate around them? No, no, that's how the honeybees kill the hornets. But most of the time, they don't do that. Yeah. So the thing is, if the hornets can get into the hive, if there's a crack where they can get into the hive, it's pretty much over.

1:05:59They get in there and they kill everything. And then they eat the babies. So we're watching this today. I was like, what kind of fucking bizarre life form are insects? Yeah. What kind of ruthless shit that's going on right outside of our eyes? See, they got into this crack and they just, they killed the fuck out of everyone. They killed 30 honeybees or 30 wasps killed 30 ,000 honeybees. So they went in there and they just cut all the heads off of 30 ,000 honeybees and then they got to the main hive and they ate all their babies. And that's what they were there for. They were there to eat the babies.

1:06:40That was the job. Yeah. So you watch them do it. I didn't know how much they could swallow because I always felt like bees have a weird like wasps even have a weird mouth. Where they have like this like these big pinchers, but I'm like, they don't have like a big opening. But watch what they do when they get inside. When they get inside, they start pulling the larva out of the honeycombs. Dude, they just swallow those fucking things. They just pull them out like this here. They pull them out and they just start slurping them. Like watch how easy he eats this whole thing. Like I'd never would have thought they could swallow that much.

1:07:14Look how quick it sucks down. Just crushing a booger. Just just just smashing it into little pieces and engulfing it. Look at this. One of those larvae is like the size of its carapace. Yeah. Yeah. And it's eating the whole thing pretty fucking quickly. And that is how they get nutrients for their babies. Right. So they go back and it helps their their hive. The whole thing is beyond the body. It's happening all the time. All the time. What other atrocities are going on out there? Well, I think those wasps might be invasive. I think there's a part of that that's going on where there's invasive wasps that are killing honeybees.

1:07:51Let me see if that's true. Because I know that's one of the things that they were really worried about when those murder hornets showed up with the murder hornets. Yeah. That was a fun time. What a great name. Yeah. It's a great band. Yeah. Really a good band. Especially that fucking rockin' really rockin' murder hornets. I'm one of their T -shirts. Oh yeah. I'd wear a bandana that had their shit on it. That's how you know you're into the band. Yeah. You show up like dog the bounty hunter. Right. Yeah. I think some of them were invasive. But obviously they know what the fuck they're doing. They go in there and they murder everybody.

1:08:21I mean, that's the definition of invasive. Eating someone's young after you crush them. And eating 30 killing, just choppin' the heads off 30 ,000 of them. Invasive murder hornets are fishley back in the U .S. Finally. And they're the slaughter phase. This is what it is. It's the purge. Oh my God. So those are the ones, man. Did you know they had hornets pollinate too? They have to do something. They have to. I figure they serve some purpose out there. They just don't make honey, I don't think. I know my grandmother would be curious. I take murder honey all day. I want to get some murder horned honey.

1:08:51What about that honey they had? The man honey? Yeah. I have something. Right now? Yeah, we could do it. What's it got to do to us? You're gonna freak out a little bit. Ha ha ha ha ha. We have those shows this evening. What the fuck? What are you worried about? I know the guy owns the club. We're fine. Where's the murder honey? I'm the murderer. Mad honey. It's up there somewhere. Yeah. Where did you get your hands on murder honey? Mad honey. It's mad honey. It's from the Paul. Yeah. It's those guys that have seen the psychedelic honey. Yeah. Psychedelics is a strong word for what I experienced.

1:09:27What do you experience? I didn't take much. So I just experienced like a light euphoria. It was kind of interesting. Ooh. But apparently if you go too much, it's really rough. I love you for you. Great show, great feeling. I haven't watched it. Oh, you should. But I do enjoy the feeling. You should watch some snippets of it. I'll send you some clips. Isn't it like a bunch of kids banging each other? Yeah, but they're of age legally. Oh, good. Yeah. It's not just fucking deleted scenes from Epstein's Dead. Is that it? Let me see. Yeah, that's it. What the fuck? Yeah, it's good to eat from like, it's broken aura.

1:09:55So do you think we shake it? It's not that. My de -tura is scary. Yes. I never fucked with that. You fucked with that? No, dude. De -tura is both. It melts people's brains. De -tura's, Terence been kind of swore off of it. Yeah. When he was talking to a guy in an open -air market. Yeah. And the guy thought that they were back at his house. Oh, fuck. In the living room. Yeah. And he realized somewhere along the line of the conversation the guy didn't know where he was. Oh, no. Like right now in the moment, in an open -air market, he thought that he was in his apartment. That sounds like a fun thing to do here on the podcast.

1:10:26No, buddy. Hey, man. You're here. Let's freak it out. Yeah, Texas. I know. They love Mad Honey here. He got stopped at the TSA. Just a jar of that shit? No, because they were like making sure he wasn't traveling with the stuff after he did the podcast. That's good. Do we know the dosage on this, Jamie? This is totally legal, by the way. Good. That was my biggest fear was breaking the law. Is Mad Honey legal? Just take a little teaspoon. Just get in there. I will take a little, see. You go first. Okay. Yeah. What are you scared? Yes. That's more than I told you last time. Oh, good. All right. It is honey.

1:11:08Yeah, definitely tastes delicious. It tastes like... It smells so much. Don't take too much. I won't want you to die. Thank you. Just like really get the spoon wet and then suck the spoon. All right. I'm like the Dalai Lama. And then think about all the diseases you can be getting for me. I don't fear those. I think you got a good ecosystem. It's a philosophy of all that stuff. No, I'm not worried. Thank you. Appreciate it. You like it, right? Don't go in again. Don't go for seconds. I'm not going for seconds. Don't fucking do it, Sam. No. Jesus. All right. Let's see. Is this legal? What do you mean?

1:11:43Let's find out. It's just honey. Yeah. This is a gag. We're faking it. It tastes bizarre. It's just honey bitches. Now my tongue is on fire. Well, wait until it gets to your brain. I can't wait. This'll be good. Do do do do. Do do do. Smok on the water over here. Down down down down down. I'm going to go full of Credence Clear Water. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man, honey. It tasted bizarre. The label. It's legal to purchase in the United States according to this. There we go. It's legal, fully legal. It helps in weight management. By the way, when that guy came in here and gave it to me and said that he brought it in, that was a lie.

1:12:18He lied. He got it from someone who legally purchased it here in America and he brought it over to me. Wink, wink, get it. That's for sure what happened. That's what I'm saying. Yes. Yes. No way was this important. He's a good dude. There's no way he would do that. No. I don't know how to do that. The rules are there because they're good. The rules are only there always because they're good. They're always valid. And Jesus loves you and shave your beard if you're single. That's right. What other rules do we have? If you're not married, you should wear something to cover your head. Mm -hmm. Transwomen are real women.

1:12:49And what else?

1:12:56That honey got all your quits.

1:13:01What do you think of this dill and mullvain? It's fascinating. I can't drink bud light anymore. I'm drinking bud light more now. No, I do because it gets me so hard when I think about what they do.

1:13:14I can barely get it in my mouth without coming. I'm drinking. Dude, transgender porn is some wild stuff. Yeah, Derek Postons into that. Oh yeah? Yeah, it's a shit. He's a con of sore. Yeah, straight man, he's a con of sore of trans porn. He loves it. I met Derek last night. He's a lary. I did his open mic. That was fun. He's a fun dude. He's very fun dude. Happy to have him out here. We're excited. We got a great crop of young up and coming talent out here. I know. I keep asking your security over there if I can handle their guns. They don't think it's very funny. I think it's a good bit, but no.

1:13:49Yeah, dude, that club is quite the testament. It's cool to see someone like realize their dreams fully. Because that place rules, dude. I didn't even have that dream. Well, I didn't have a dream of, I didn't even, I just knew when I moved here that I had to replace the sense of community that we had in LA if we're going to have like a real scene out here. I was like, I'm living here. I love it here. I'm not moving. So, this is where I'm at. So this is where I'm at. What do I need? There was some places that we were working out. The Vulcan primarily, which is awesome and shout out to Nick. They're sure they're owns and he's the shit.

1:14:24That's a great place. Still a great place. I still do sets there. I'll still hop back and forth, especially once everything gets fully running at the mothership. But I realized we needed set up the right way for comedy. There's part of, there's the hang. And then there's also like the ease of getting onto the stage and there's like the making it is optimum for the audience and then optimum for the performance and then making it so that young up and coming people have an easy way to get on stage. Everything is thought out perfectly, man. And also the fact that you have that open mic and all the door staff there are comedians, which is great.

1:15:02And they're all very nice and eager. And they're all funny. They were talking to them last night. They were fucking funny. They all audition. Yeah. So they got to see their act. And so it's like you're in a part of like an apprenticeship program. You're going to be able to go on stage during the open mics, which are two nights a week. There's Killtony. There's Times where the door guys can go up on showcase shows. Those will run for hours and hours and you know, fucking 10, 15 talented people that you get a chance to see someone in the early days. It's like seeing Louis C .K. in Boston in 1988.

1:15:34Yeah. And they go, dude, I saw that guy when he was like a year into comedy and then bang him. Yeah, you got that guy Keith. You got Lucas. There's a lot of good guys. Yeah, yeah. A lot of good women there. A lot of good. There's a couple of non -barners. Yeah, we got at least one. Check out the box. It's a diverse group. We gave him his own Bud Light after the first week. We put his face on a can. Do you have any beer? Yeah, you want a beer? I take a light beer. Let's get some Bud Lights. Let's do this. Yeah. In support of Bud Light in their time of sales. We're going to be allies by getting a little date drink.

1:16:06We're going to be allies. You know, because Kid Rock and Travis Trid have put the fucking hammer down. I know. They're really fucking fighting the good fight, man. Here's my take.

1:16:18Like what you're doing, what they're doing is just spreading the brand to an extra group of people. Yeah. Why if something is good? Do you give a fuck? Who's got it? Like, would we do this with cheesecake? You know what I'm saying? If there was a bomb ass cheesecake and all of a sudden some radical group like Antifa really got in the cheesecake, we'd be like, fuck this. And if the cheesecake factory sent Antifa a cheesecake for 10 more years of chaos, like a celebratory. A celebratory. Yeah. If only ISIS had bare claw donuts, I'm still eating those fucking donuts. And I loved Kid Rock's video because I love that.

1:17:03I love cheers. Cheers, man. I love that kind of thinking. Not even that I agree with it. I like wild people. Yeah. I like raising hell, man. I like it due to take some machine gun to a stack of bud lights and it's like fucking anhyzer butt. That's what show up. But I mean, where's he going to go now? You're going to go to cores. You like? Don't they all support like LBGTQ plus AI whatever the hell else. They're attaching to issues they all do. I mean, I'm from Colorado and cores has had those rainbow cans forever. Fucking Shane Gillis is heartbroken. I was with him. I was open and for him last weekend.

1:17:40This is what sucks. He drinks bud light every time he does protect our parks. Those things have fucking millions of views. I know. Where's his can of beer? He did not. He was not. He said the exact same thing. He's problematic. Oh, yeah, he's an issue, man. He's an issue being one of the funniest fucking human beings alive on planet Earth. And also generous and immune. And a mind -of -the -guy. But for whatever reason, if they won't give him a buttlight. They should give him some lips. If they were smart, they would send Shane a buttlight with his face on it too. Say we love everybody. Well, the can's not big enough to fit his face.

1:18:13That's true. It's a big round hat. You could put like half his face. Yeah, like, you know, like a artsy thing. Right. Yeah, then you put them all together. Yeah, there you go. Whoa. Did you get a left side of the face or the right side? Bud Light sponsors the moon. So if you're too fist and, you know, mm -hmm. No, man, I think that it's crazy when people get upset about that stuff because the people who get upset about that stuff value, liberty, and freedom so much. And they want to live their lives undeterred by anyone's rules. But they think that the company that they like is giving into the woke agenda.

1:18:45Yeah. That's what it is. There is no woke agenda. Well, they think there is in like movies and television and media and commercials. And they're worried about it in universities. They're worried about it in schools and high schools and grammar schools. They're worried about it because there is some evidence that some people do try to indoctrinate children and to views that maybe don't align with the parents views. Right. Who's right and who's wrong? That's up to interpretation. But the question is like, is it appropriate for someone to be giving their politics or their cultural values that may be opposite of the cultural values of the parents?

1:19:22Is it appropriate for this person who spends probably more time during the day with your kids than you do to do that to your kids all day long? What about religion though? Because you're indoctrinating your kids before they have any say in that. Maybe your kids are atheist and they go to school. It's still. You're talking about public school. Like you're going to have kids that are all sorts of religions in those public schools and all sorts of non -religions. So it's going to be a bunch of different flavors of atheism. On people who are in the politics or people who just aren't religious at all.

1:19:49Those kids are going to school too. Right. And if they're getting indoctrinated and they don't want to be, that's the question. It's not saying that it happens all the time. There's just enough evidence of it where there's plenty of videos of people actually doing it. Like Project Veritas got a bunch of them and there's, you know, the lips of TikTok got a bunch of them. It's like it's really a thing with some people to teach school. But not most of them. Most of them are great people who are educators and what they're trying to do and they get satisfaction out of if they're good is they try to educate kids and they want them to have a good experience.

1:20:21So they look back and they remember, remember Mrs. Wilson's class? She was fucking awesome. Like this is one teacher that I had in high school. I wish I could remember her name, but everybody went to her because she would talk to you friendly and she was a sweetheart. She was a sweet lady. She was a really nice lady and she was really good at her job. But like if you fucked up and she was like, you're supposed to have it in. Like what happened? Like you felt bad. I'll get I'll fix it. I'll finish it. I'm sorry. Like you felt bad. Sure. If you wanted to do well in that way, you heard out. Yeah.

1:20:49She was so sweet. That's the best example. The worst example is some shitty dumb person who gets a job teaching because a lot of people don't want to teach. And then they find, because it's very low paying and it doesn't get a lot of reward and praise from people. Also parents are a nightmare. Parents are a nightmare. And then the shitty person is in front of your kids where they're really dumb ideas. Yeah. And there's a lot of those people. There's a lot of those people. And they think, well, we're going to do this. We're going to indoctrinate their children. We're going to turn their children against them.

1:21:16And there's, there are people like that out there in the world. It doesn't mean that's all of them. It's like there are bad cops out there in the world. But the most cops are great. It's not, it's not like all cops are evil. It's like the job is really fucking hard. And most people do their best. But some people fucking suck at it. Like everything. Like plumbers. Like everything. It's just that with cops, the consequences are so grave. And with kids, it's kind of a fucked up situation because if you're a parent and you're working all day and your kids at school all day and they're getting indoctrinated into a set of ideas that don't align with your values or don't align with your sense of the world or what you believe reality.

1:21:52What you want to teach in your home is what you want to teach your home. So it's like, it's very tricky. It's like, what is, what is school supposed to do? Generally, it's supposed to educate children, but it's not necessarily supposed to indoctrinate as well though. I mean, it's supposed to put them in a situation where they're understanding like regimented schedules. Well, that's what it was originally invented for. But if you ask someone what's the primary reason for education, it's to, you send these kids to school to teach them about life, teach them history, teach them how to do mathematics, teach them language, teach them fractions, fractions, all kinds of stuff.

1:22:26You're supposed to be preparing them for a college or high school. And when you're doing this, but you're, instead, you're spending the entire class talking about different things that you think are wrong with the world or wrong with Donald Trump or wrong with, you know, trans people not being able to compete in the sport of their gender of choice. Like those kind of things are not what you're supposed to be teaching kids. These are opinion based things. And these are things that maybe someone, if they were debating you in that moment, there was also an adult, might make you look really foolish.

1:23:00They would bust your ass. Yeah, for sure. Because the things you say are stupid, but these fucking five -year -olds don't know they're stupid. How? Because kids are dumb as hell. Because they don't know anything, yeah. Yeah, they're brain -centered and full. That's what people are worried about. Yeah. I mean, I do remember good teachers, you know, like the good teachers are the ones, I don't remember any bad teachers. I had a teacher named Mrs. Storch who got me a bunch of cool books. This is not that good. This is not. It'll do for now. It's a thing, right? It's like a cold thing you drink. Yeah.

1:23:28You know I actually get shit for. Zee -vias. No, Zee -vias. No, those sodas. No, Zee -mus, that's right. Zee -mus was wrong. Yeah. Zee -via, I like. I drink that stuff all the time. I was originally conceived on Zee -mus. Yeah, that's the way to go. Yeah. Have you kid on a delicious, fruity sort of bubbly soda -like alcohol and pepper? Yeah, I'm mom and dad split a fucking 24 -pack of Zee -mum and made me in Glenwood Springs. Wasn't too strong. No. You know? Can't use fiber. Can't use fiber, no, dude. You can't have like eight of them. I've never had eight Zee -mus. I have. You've had eight? Yeah, because they brought them back.

1:24:03Zee -mus thing with, I'm not really trying to get drunk. You know? Like if I'm trying to get drunk, I'm drinking whiskey. If I'm drinking, I'm typically trying to get drunk. Always? Yeah. Don't you just like to have a little buzz? I'll have a little glass of wine here and there. There you go. Yeah. Zee -mus drinks returning to summer of 2018 for a limited time. Yeah. They try to bring it back. They bring it back. Oh, bring it back. Come on, Zee -mum. I'm on your side. Yeah. I liked it. I liked them a lot. I don't get it. Yeah. I don't get it. Fucking white claws made it, but Zee -mus didn't. These are all sugar though.

1:24:29But tell me. Tell me how the fuck white claws made it and Zee -m -a did. Is a timing thing? Is it like beta max in the VHS tape? The superior product doesn't make it? Well Zee -mum had like 20 years head start on white claw. Bro, I used to get so much shit for ordering Zee -mum. They're like, what are you doing, bro? Well, were you at the pool hall? No. I'm fucking improv on Melrose. It's on your right hand. It's on me. Comics are making fun of me for drinking Zee -mum. I'm sorry, it's delicious. It looks like a post -apocalyptic drink. There's things you should know about Zee -mum. What do I need to know?

1:24:57Is it bad for you? Yeah, what are the fun facts about Zee -mum? There's no fun facts. The branding sucks. This Zee -mum is like blockbuster videos. No one thought it was going to go away, but... Here we are. In a post -Zee -mum world. It's over. It's weird, because it was delicious. It didn't taste bad at all. It's not a bad product. It was kind of viscous though. We had that kind of milky look to it when it was in the bottle for too long. Really? Yeah. I thought it was like sprite. It started clear, but then if you had it on the shelf for a while... How long did you leave your Zee -mum? I remember my dad had a couple of Zee -mums in his office.

1:25:30He was a little milky. Yeah, look at that. Yeah, but that's just a... It's a Skim Milk. CGI image. No, you think that's computer -generated? That's the same bottle over and over again. That's what it looks like. It looks like fucking soda. It's a bottle of... Delicious clear malt soda. I'd be more surprised if you had Zee -mum in here than that you have mad eyes. I would blow my mind even more. You daddy probably have to get it on eBay from your dad. Yeah, for sure. Your dad's got some cases. My dad takes the helicopter in. Your dad's got some cases. But the thing is about this dillamilvany thing.

1:26:07It's just someone who wants a lot of attention. And you're giving that someone a lot of attention. And you're trying to reach another audience. I saw it and I was like, what the fuck is this? My initial reaction is like, this is silly. It was really transparent. It was really transparent. But it's also your Bud Light fan. Your typical Bud Light fan is like NASCAR, fucking sports. That's most of the people that are drinking Bud Light. Guys like Shane. Most... You saw the Bud Light demographics. Yeah. Of who's drinking Bud Light? Bigots. I saw this fucking... Guys like Shane. He's joking Shane. Yeah.

1:26:46I saw Shane's my boy. What the fuck was I gonna say? Jesus Christ you threw me off. Yeah, it wasn't the honey. The honey's in there though. There's a little current popping around in there. It might be the cigar. Probably cigar. Yeah. Can I have that lighter again? Yeah, sure. Thank you. Fuck. I lost it. You were talking about... Oh yeah. Just how the target demographic of Bud Light. But it's like a lot of companies are using this person. There's more than one company. There's like a bunch of them like Nike and a bunch of other stuff. Also she's pretty. I get it. No, I mean, I see nothing wrong.

1:27:20Good luck. Hey man. Yeah, it's one of those things. It's like it's funny what people get like super outraged about. You know, like we're in the middle of Tulsi Gabbard posted up some stuff the other day about the Restrict Act. And flip the top. Here, I showed you before. Pull the top back. Thank you. Well I did it before you before. That's like one of those teacher man to fish things. Yeah. It's not going to be lit. You know, I know. I got to get rid of that attached. But you know, like no one's freaking out about that. But they're freaking out about Bud Light. Like how is that the big deal? I think it's goofy.

1:27:59Because I think that person's goofy. But if you want to hire a goofy person, like who gives a shit. It's kind of hilarious when someone says 365 days of womanhood. It was also on April Fool's Day. That's true too. But it's also just a can with that person's face on it. Yeah, that's all it was. It wasn't like something they were selling. They didn't have a store. No, it was kind of funny. Yeah. I like that people get mad. I thought what kid rocked it was funny. I laughed at it. I told them I thought it was funny. But I also... It doesn't make me mad. Not at all. It just makes me like, what? I think it's because we...

1:28:34I get what they're doing though. They're trying to get people that are popular. They're just looking for influencers to help them. And they're trying to look more inclusive. Because of the assumptions people make about blood light drinkers. But those assumptions. And also look at us. We're on the biggest platform in the world discussing blood light for like 10 minutes. Right, 12 minutes for the brand. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, Shane loves it. I like Miller Light more. I like Sam Adams. I like a dark beer. I want to be like 17 -o' -o. Oh, really? Yeah, I want to be sipping beer all night. Yeah. It's my go.

1:29:05Stan helped you still like to do that. He's like a light beer. Yeah, he's sober as fuck. Except for the animals. Well, yeah. But no cigarettes for Stan, he'll be either. Yeah. He looked good the other day. I saw him. I was like, dude, you looked younger. I was hoping he'd still be here. Like a lot of the man. Oh, you mean he fucking made my book happen, dude. He did tell me about it too. He was the first person to tell me. And he gave me a copy of it. Yes, dude, you got to read this. He gave it to Bert. He gave it to everybody. Yeah, when I started watching it. So I saw that and I said, well, let me see if this guy's funny.

1:29:33So I went and watched some of your clips. I was like, oh, all right, man. Thanks, man. I started following you. I was like, oh, you're not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it.

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1:30:55I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. Every time I come here and stand inprobably, Every time I come here, I'm like, how hard is it just 42 something to be brushed down and knocked it off the wall? Un scientistsニea 유 conster 위한 to clean it. Un scientistsニea UC Camellia And this is South Africa people who've been to this campus It's way easier to see now. Well, you were saying like, I think I'm gonna call the club, the rooms Fat Man and Little Boy, but I'm a little worried people are gonna be upset if they lost someone in World War II.

1:31:47And I was like, well, you know what else might piss some people off, Joe? That fucking huge swastika up there. That should have already been gone. The Fat Man and Little Boy thing is in reference, the whole reason for it, the thing is UFO theme. And in the UFO lore, the UFOs come right after the detonation of Fat Man and Little Boy. That's why it's named Fat Man and Little Boy, because I thought it'd be, and plus one's big, one small. It makes sense. It worked with the theme. In the UFO folklore, that's like what happened, like that. And it makes sense. If you look at the recorded sightings, it's obviously it's like the news before 1947, it's kind of sketchy anyways.

1:32:21Who knows what was reported. But after 1947, there's a shitload of sightings. A lot of like, there's, there's UFOs that flew over the White House. And they were filmed, there's photographs of them. There's the Roswell crash, which is in 1947. Did down there a couple times. Have you been there? My old man loves UFOs. Oh really? Yeah, and my grandma's from Northern New Mexico. So we've driven down to Roswell two or three times. And it's just a tourist trap now. I have two brilliant friends that have two completely opposite views. What do they think? One brilliant friend is convinced they're from another planet.

1:32:56Or another dimension. This person is from another planet? No, no, no, no, no, no. The UFOs. Okay. That these things people are seeing, he said, if you just look at the size of the universe, and if you look at all of the possibilities for life and how life could be advanced, 1 ,000, 100 ,000, a million years more than us, especially if they're in some sort of stable environment where they're not in asteroid belts or anything like that. And they don't have super volcanoes on their planet, whatever it is. If they got to a certain level, for sure, they'd be able to visit. And if they did get to that level, they would be able to do things that we would, we would think is magic.

1:33:33And that they would be able to go into the ocean, they'd be able to fly off and insane rates of speed and use methods of propulsion that we can't even understand. And he thinks that's what it is. He thinks that they are just observing and probably making sure that we don't knock ourselves back in the Stone Age. So they're protectors? No, I think it's probably like an eco -biologist that goes into the jungle and examine species. So they're an ingredient thing? Yeah, imagine if there was a type of a sloth or something in the Amazon that was in danger of dying. And there was a lot of funding behind it.

1:34:10And they went there and they wanted to try to rescue the sloth and figure it out. They do stuff like that, right? So if we do stuff like that with limited resources and people have to donate money to these things, hard for them to get funded, imagine if you're some super advanced civilization from another galaxy and you recognize that one planet has come into nuclear power. They have now nuclear capabilities. This signal goes out through the universe. Okay, these fucks are blowing themselves up. These apes figure out. Let's go visit. Yeah, let's go visit. And that's the UFO folklore. That's when they all start showing up.

1:34:39And that's when you get like all the different crazy, like Betty and Barney Hild, the induction stories, all that stuff comes after 1947. Crazy story about them is they're interracial in like the 50s. Yeah, and I think it was in Maine or something like that. Yeah, yeah. You know, I know one of their granddaughters, Angela Hill. She's a fighter. She fights in the UFC. No way. Yeah, she's a top rank fighter in the UFC. Yeah, what's the name of that fighter from Denver? Like the small lady fighter from Colorado? Which one? I don't know. Do she has like short hair and she whips ass? This is quite a bit.

1:35:17Denver's got a good crop of fighters. Yeah, anyway. She's very pretty. There's a lot of, oh, oh, oh. She looks like Rose. Rose, not my units. Yeah, yeah. OK, yeah, OK. Yeah, that's right. She's shout out Rose. Rose is awesome. Yeah. I wonder where she's fighting soon. I think she is. I don't know. I think she's fighting soon. I wrestled in high school, but I never fought. Did you? Yeah. Had you. My coaches made me wrestle. Football coaches did? Yeah, my wrestling coach tried to get me to play football. But luckily, when we wrestled, there was a kid named Bobby Baker. It was 300 pounds. And I was like, look at him and look at me.

1:35:52I go, I'm not letting that guy chase me and run me over. He's not chasing anybody. If I fucked up and I got too close, you know, he's like big paws on you. He's a bear. He was so big. He was so much bigger than everybody else. I'm like, that's just not happening, man. That's crazy. Wrestling is brutal. I would play football at 320. And then I had to cut to 275. Oh, my God. Real quick, you know, because that's like the cutoff for heavy weights in Colorado. How much time did you have to cut? That fuck like six weeks, two months. Oh, wow. There's all egg whites and clementine oranges. I'm like chewing tobacco.

1:36:26It was terrible. I pissed eight pounds one time. I retained so much water that I urinated out eight pounds. Wow. Yeah. Because after you make weight, then you just eat like a whole bag at in a bunch of pop tarts, you know? Oh, smart. Yeah, well, that's what you do after you finally make weight. The fucked up thing about wrestling, too, is you have to make weight the day of the tournament. I know, dude. Yeah. Wrestling sucks. And also, have you weight wrestling's bag? Cause this river falls down first, wins. That's not always true. That's the whole thing. That was in my experience. If you went down, the guy laid on you, and you're just waiting for the bell.

1:36:58It was brutal. I was so bad on my feet. But then if you're on the bottom, luckily, you can just grab their arm and like try and roll with them. That's all of heavy weight wrestling. How long did you wrestle for? Three years. Oh, wow. Did you ever think about doing jiu -jitsu or something like that afterwards? No, I don't have it in me. No. I mean, I don't have like the blood lust, you know? No, it's not blood lust thing. Most of the people I know do jiu -jitsu or nerds. That's true. Joe List. Really smart guys. Yeah. Bourdain wasn't really into it, you know? It's like a lot of people that are very intelligent get into it.

1:37:30I don't know. I don't know if I have, I love competition. And I have that jocke in me still. But the whole one on one man on man thing, I don't know if like I would really, not even excel, but really enjoy it. It's not as aggressive as you think it is, especially with a good school. Yeah. It's cool. It's really like, you kind of flow and you do it in a sense where you're not like exploding on each other. You're trying to learn the moves and execute the moves. You know, the person trying to defend, execute their own moves. It's like, and the guy who's better doesn't want to break you in half because there's nothing in it for him.

1:37:59When you're beginning, you're always, not, I shouldn't say always, most of the time you're better off going with someone who is much better because the people that are much better can take care of you. And they're not going to hurt you. But there's a lawsuit that really recently got this guy was a Jiu -Jitsu coach. I think it's in California. And he did like a forward role with a guy to take his back. And the guy's neck got caught in a bad situation. And snapped his neck. And he got nerve damage and paralysis. And he just got awarded $46 million. Holy shit. Yeah, that's not good. That's a bad precedent.

1:38:39It does, but it's also, it's a very unfortunate aspect of Jiu -Jitsu that you occasionally are going to get a bad injury. And I know of people in MMA class, they got paralyzed, particularly when someone goes for a guillotine. Someone shoots in for a double. Sometimes guys will go for a guillotine. And if they catch the neck and the guy who's shooting a double lands on his head. Yeah, as they're falling. Yeah. And it has happened before. And guys have been paralyzed doing that. And I was reading this thing about judo dojos in Japan. And that deaths do happen where guys get spiked on their head.

1:39:17They get thrown and slammed on their head. Like every year someone dies doing judo in Japan. But that's probably like a revered way to go out in Japan. You know? Probably. I don't want to say honorable, because that's hacky. But there is like a commitment to craft over there that is unlike anything we have here. Yeah, especially in regards to martial arts. And that culture really rewards that commitment to craft. Midu Kremo. Oh my god. I would. I was in Japan at the beginning of the year. And I didn't get to see Sumo. The point is though it's like it's dangerous, just like playing football is dangerous.

1:39:50People die playing football. Yeah, there's a risk. And the thing is about that guy, they were trying to paint him that he was a total beginner. But the reality was he had years of wrestling. And he had at least, I believe it was at least two years of jiu -jitsu. Two years of jiu -jitsu is not, I mean, it's a beginner in a sense. But it's not someone that doesn't know what they're doing, especially someone who's already done a couple of years of grappling. I think it was just a freak accident. When I saw it, it looked like a freak accident. And the majority of the people that I talked to that were jiu -jitsu guys, they also thought it was a freak accident.

1:40:19But 46 million. I mean, who knows if that's going to stick and appeals. I mean, obviously the guy needs to be compensated somehow or another insurance or something. Yeah, but he had some advantage for it. I know, but I think most of them are waiver. Yeah, but there's probably like catastrophic injury insurance or something like that. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to that. But yeah, you do sign up for it. And I've definitely been hurt. It happens. I've had multiple surgeries from jiu -jitsu. Yeah. Both my knees had surgeries on because of jiu -jitsu.

1:40:51My nose, well, my nose was fucked up for a long time. But like, has some real problems in my back, my neck, bulging discs and shit. I had to get treated with stem cells and PRP and stuff like that. It's just one of those things. It's like you're signing up for a dangerous game. I think sports are very important for youth. And I loved being on a team. I think being an offensive lineman made me a better host as a comedian because I was used to like never touching the ball and never getting the accolades. I literally think those translated, like those two skills. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. Like so you could be the guy who brings up the really good people that everybody's there to see.

1:41:27Yeah, and also to a good job setting the table for the show. Yeah. And maybe like selfless in a way, you know? It's also like hosting is a very interesting job too because one of the things that it does is it allows you to get comfortable on stage and comfortable like with transitions and it gives you like reps. Yeah. Like another, it's just different kind of reps, almost like cross training a little bit. It's the easiest way to get a lot of stage time early because you're physically on stage, even if you are doing seven minutes up front. Yeah. You have to do the gaps in between. You become a good host.

1:41:56That's your way to getting in at any club. Where was is you, are you, were you at the comedy works in Denver? Yeah. That's my home club. That's the shit. I'm a company man, dude. Oh yeah, that's right. You can see it. Is it 40 years ago? Yeah, 40 years. Wow. Oh, that's amazing. I don't even know when I first went there. Dude, I had a story for you there. Remember when you tried to move to Boulder for a while? Yeah. So you came down and like, did I think new talent night on Tuesday? You just closed their new talent night? Yeah. And a lot of us were on that show just like randomly. So then open for Joe Rogan went in like 13 people's bios the day after that show.

1:42:33Because we happened to be on a show that you closed. That's funny. Yeah, happy to help. Yeah, no, it was good. That was fun. I wish I could have stayed. Yeah, that would have been wild. If you set up what you did here in Boulder. Well, I wouldn't have been able to do it back then because I didn't even have a podcast. That was prepodcast. Yeah. Yeah. One of the reasons why I started the podcast is I was bummed out that I had to leave Colorado and I'd come back to LA. My wife got pregnant. And back then, if you are pregnant at high altitude, it's very rough. It's like having the flu. Yeah, altitude sickness.

1:43:09Yeah. And when we came back, also she couldn't drive and snow, but that's another story. But when we came back, it was like immediate difference in being at altitude versus like where we were, I was like 8 ,000 feet above sea level. It was very high. It was awesome though. But it's, you know, like I got a dog eaten by a mountain line up there. It's like right away. It was rough. Yeah, a little dog left in the yard. Jesus Christ. It's sketchy. You're down with like a real wild shit up there. Like, you know, you see porcupines and foxes and occasionally you'll see something crazy. Like a mountain line.

1:43:42I saw one mountain line in between the trees once. And I was like, whoa. Yeah. Can only see it like briefly like big foot like just moving through the trees. But I saw this four -legged thing just moving through the trees and I was like, oh shit, I think that's a mountain line. Damn, dude. And the neighbors also saw them. They saw them all over the place. There used to be around my middle school all the time. We'd have to have indoor recess because there was mountain lions outside. In one of the places near where I was staying, this guy left his door like either partially a jar or the bear figured out how to get into his car.

1:44:15And maybe the bear opened the door. The door was unlocked. So the bear opened the door and ate his seats. Eight his dashboard ate everything. Just stomach bears. They just smelled leather? Yeah. They just assumed that it was an animal. I don't like that a bear can open a car door. That doesn't feel good. Well, I think they're smart, man. And if they've done it before, that's the thing about bears when they attacked. They were discussing that to us when we move up there. They said if they get your garbage, like it's a real problem because they're never gonna stop coming back. Yeah. Once the bear's fine, yeah.

1:44:48Once they find it, they're like, you don't scare them off. You scare them off for now. That was like me at that 7 -11 dumpster, man. As soon as I found out they had the hot and redies in there. I was like, oh. Yeah. I was like, it's fine. Yeah. It was fine. I was on all fours. Yeah. It's a funny story now to look back though, right? Oh, yeah. I loved it, man. That's one of the awesome things about pulling it off. Yeah, no. Dude, yeah, being here after doing it so hard for so long, like I did it is, it feels cool when something pays off in comedy. Yeah, it does. Like, cause I did it like gnarly.

1:45:25Like Joey Coco Diaz when he tells those stories, I'm like, oh, I did that as well. Yeah. Like it's fucked, but it was great. It's how great does it. You do those triple runs. Yeah. Those weird gigs in the middle of nowhere. Entertainment max. Everybody has those stories. Yeah. And I mean, It's fun things about doing comedy. It's the best. That's why those YouTube guys are fucked. I know. And if you get famous on YouTube and then you start doing comedy as an open -micro, you're already famous. Like, you're already got your own crowds coming to see you. But their crowds are dumb, cause they're into that kind of humor.

1:45:53Like comedy's so big now that it's boutique and you can find exactly what you think is funny. That's true. Yeah. So if you want to be a YouTube guys fan and go to see a show, is you don't care that he's not competent at comedy, cause you just want to get the fucking selfie with him after the show. Have you seen the meet and greets for those YouTube guys shows? No. They're, so they do like 35 minutes and then they do a Q &A typically. And then there's like a two and a half hour meet and greet afterwards where people come on by the t -shirt, take the picture. That's the whole show. They want the gram.

1:46:19They want the gram. That's why people attend. And those YouTube guys are printing money. Wow. Yeah, and then they get a guy like me hosting for him and you fucking bury him. But then you look out at the crowd and you're like, oh, you guys don't know what good comedy is. You guys just want to see, you know, fucking lefty razor coming up next. They just happy to see that twitch guy. Yeah. He's really good at playing video games. Yeah. It's strange. What a skill. It's a weird thing, but is it any weirder than like fucking news anchors? You know, any weirder than anybody who becomes famous for no fucking reason?

1:46:50In matters of taste, there is no debate. You know, so if you're into that shit, go crazy. I think it's good overall because now people who might not have gone to comedy clubs are getting into the comedy club system. So they get that email and then they receive the, hey, you know, it's your birthday, bring 20 friends type shit. And then it gets more people to get eyes on comedy, even if it is through like a ulterior way. Yeah, that's true. What freaks people out those when YouTube guys start doing weekends at a club they used to work out and they go, what the fuck? We're all pissed. Sun's really comedy.

1:47:18I know. And then I have to do a rap date there. And it's like, what the fuck? What's a rap date? It's like a Wednesday, Thursday, Sunday, you know? Oh, rap. So you rap around the weekend with the YouTubers there. Yeah, exactly. But that's fun too, though. I mean, it's fun to be in a comedy club. Fun for the crowd. It's fun to go from like the warehouses that I was performing into. Because I came at it from like a punk rock, like hardcore DIY thing, where it's like all perform anywhere. And then you just live on the road. And you come home, I'd be gone for like three weeks and come home with like $600.

1:47:49My wife would be like, what is, what's why? It's like, well, I'm getting good. You know, one day, baby. Yeah, one day I'll be on JRE. She got to be happy now. She stoked. I mean, when she met me, she knew what it was. I was already on the road. So you already worked. Yeah, I was, I mean, I've been on the road since like 2008, doing all those mountain show gigs, opening for people in like Gillette, Wyoming. Oh, really? Yeah. What are those like? Terrible. Docks, shit. What's in Gillette, Wyoming? Mingles. Mingles is in Gillette, Wyoming. Paying a picture for me. You walk in, all right? You've got a big disco ball.

1:48:22You have a linoleum floor in a bar for some reason. There's all those like terrible chairs that they brought in from a church, like the hard like metal chairs that wrestlers really hit each other with. You walk in, there's seven TVs, you know, they turn off whatever the local high school football game is and you have to perform. You go up, you do 20 minutes, eat your ass for people who, you know, they don't know what comedy is. They're not the most like, they're not into creative comedy, you know? They're like Vegas crowds, but they can't afford to go to Vegas, all right? And then you see like the worst hack in the world go on and kill after you and you're like, oh, what am I doing here?

1:48:59And then the hack tries to fuck some old lady and you have to sleep in the bathtub because you're sharing a hotel room. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, and you get a hundred bucks and you have to split guests. That's those shows, dude. Oh my God. Yeah, dude, one time I did a show up there with this guy who I'm not gonna say his name, but after the show, the lady's like, you guys hungry and I was like, yes, I'm hungry and he's like, we're okay, we're okay. And she's like, well, we got the best fucking chicken wings in the world up here. And he's like, oh, we're good. Hour goes by, we're drinking. He's like, hey, what's up with those chicken wings?

1:49:29And they're like, oh, we turn the fryer off like a half hour ago. And then guys like, oh, man, chicken wings sound good right now, don't they Sam? And I'm like, I guess, yeah, I'm sure. So that he's like, what about those chicken wings? And they're like, we can't, we have to like get the chef back in here and like get the fryer going again. And he's like, yeah, we got time. You guys wanna do that? So they're like, okay, right on, sir. So they fucking get the fryer going again. The guy who does the chicken wings comes back. He's there like, so how do you want your chicken wings done? And he's like, I want them spicy.

1:49:59And they're like, well, we got real spicy wings. And he's like, that's good. So we're there for another 45 minutes as the fryer will's heating up. They finally put the wings in. They come out, they give him the wings. He takes a bite. He goes, oh, these are spicy. And they're like, yeah, you said you want them spicy. And he's like, I can't have these. And he fucking left. Wow. And that guy was like the coolest guy in the world to me at this time. That's the guy I aspired to be. You know what I mean? That's the dude. That's the dude who brought me, gave me the shot. Yeah, and that fucking ascended hand of God came down and touched me.

1:50:29But isn't it also like an education to like that kind of comic? Yeah. Because you don't know about that kind of comic until you work with them on the road. And you realize that's why we're in the middle of Wyoming doing this gig. And this guy's been doing comedy for 15 years. He's making 350 bucks tonight. Yeah. And I dropped out of college to do this gig with him. You know? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, those are the people don't think about like that kind of comedy. People forget, like that's my fucking book is all about that guy. Yeah. People forget about the dudes who are out there fucking doing 12 nights in a row.

1:51:00For a lot of them. There's a shit load. A lot of them. And they just are there to sell merch. That's their whole thing. They just run their sad flea market after the shows. And people come up and they know their shirt says, like, I'm was stupid with an arrow pointing down to their dick. And then it's like a link to like a fucking, you know, angel fire website on the back of it.

1:51:18And then their whole thing is like trying to bang someone's daughter or like find the worst cocaine in South Dakota. Oh, and that's they think they're fucking cool. And then you have to share a room with these guys and they'll be like, all right, in the bathtub with you. I got a lady coming over. They like throw you a pillow. They're like, I'll look on the door when I'm done. Oh my God. I did that for like three years. And I would call home and be like, mom and dad, I made it, you know? Wow. I'm living my dream right now. I did a college where I had a stand on stage. And the stage was two like lunch tables.

1:51:50Oh yeah. But they pushed together. Middle to the day. Yeah, middle of that. There's a speaker up there with you. And you're standing on these rickety lunch tables. Those and then in these guys are calling me a fag. They're yelling out. And I started tearing them apart. And when I started tearing apart, then also everybody starts laughing. Yeah. And they come up to the side of the stage and said, you're not allowed to swear. I go, not allowed to swear. Like what the fuck are you talking about? And then then I turned them against them. I'm like, listen to this folks. You guys are how many of you are 18?

1:52:21Of course. They all start cheering. I go, so you guys are old enough to go to war. You're old enough to die for your country. Yeah. But this fucking guy over here doesn't think I can swear in front of you. Because you don't know, like, I don't want to tarnish your pristine little mind. Yeah. I'm like, fuck this place. Let's light this place on fire and everybody starts screaming it here. And then the guy goes, fine, we'll deal with the consequences later. Do whatever you want. I go, I was going to do whatever I wanted anyway. He just told me I could do whatever I want. Like, did you not understand that I was already doing whatever I want?

1:52:50What the fuck out of here? Don't get me clearance to do whatever the fuck I want. But it all suddenly became fun. Because it became like, here's this 24 year old visiting these 18 year olds talking shit with them. And you're like an old man to this. Old man, 24. Old man, like, listen, now these people know what the fuck is going on. They're all traitors. They're in all of that Michigan. Okay, there's no reason. They don't want to be here. This is a disaster. The directions I got to get here. So I started talking about the directions that I got. They were so wrong. They couldn't have been more wrong.

1:53:21It's like someone not knowing what the roads are and just just writing. I had to get directions from someone else that was unrelated. I had to make three or four different phone calls in the days of no cell phones. So I had to pull over to gas stations, find a pay phone. Where the fuck is your college? And these are the people that were like teaching young people. More wrong. Molding young minds. And it went out of conversation with me afterwards when he's writing my check. He's like, I'm going to talk to your agent about this. I go talk to my agent and say, here's another thing. How about tell the fucking people they can't yell out obscenities?

1:53:53They can't serve me. I'm in the middle of doing comedy and comedy happens. That's what you do. That's my job. When someone starts yelling shit at me, I go, what did you say, sir? And then we're having fun. Do you understand that is what you paid me to do? If you don't police the crowd, if you didn't ask these children to be nice and be good audience members, then it's like a regular show. And it's going to be a regular show anyway, stupid on my comedian. Also it's the middle of the day. These kids are trying to study and you just fucking sprung me on them. Amish comedy is a nightmare, dude. And there were animals.

1:54:28These were all football players. Oh, those? Yes. There was a lot of them. The whole football team was there and there were animals. Yeah. But as soon as I turned on that guy and then we're having a party. Right. Then they get it. And then they were like, you know, you're cool. Yeah, then it was fun. I was like, I was like, you're age. I did this stage of life. Yeah. These fucking people are, these are not the people you should be listening to. Yeah. You turn into the guys yelling, you make them flinch. And they're like, yes. He's one of ours. You pants them and shove them over. Yeah, shoot a bud light.

1:54:59I just shotgun it. Dude, those college gigs, I used to do a frat gig in Boulder up at CU where they would make all the pledges where a pink hat. And it was just my job to go in there and like pretty much MK Ultra them. Like they would like give me information on these kids and it was my job to like roast them to the point of wanting to quit the fucking fraternity. And it paid like, you know, $800 and I was like, yes, this is the greatest in the world. So you're just like, Chinese, wrong. Look at this guy, clearly gay, you know, all the black guys are in the back being like, yes, he's doing it.

1:55:32Yes. That's two moms. Let's be in parents, you know? How do you know this? Clubfoot. Oh, it's hilarious. Yeah, dude. Where are my AV brothers at? Yes. Where's the AV room boys? Those are the original tech people. Yeah, dude. Remember the AV room? Mm -hmm. They would not want you in there. No. No, if you showed up, they'd say, please leave, sir. Sir, this is not for you. You're like younger than them and they're calling you, sir. That honey gets you a little bit? It's doing something. Yeah, probably. Yeah, we'll see. Yeah. We'll give it a little more time. I thought I was going to freak out and like take my shirt off.

1:56:07I was a little worried about that. But I felt like it's worth the gamble. It was, dude. It's very good. If I fucked it up, we'll just do it again. Another time. Yeah. We'll just have a redo. I like it. Yeah. Tonight's going to be fun. We'll have a nice time. I'll be confused in there. Chris was coming tonight too. Chris was coming tonight too. Sick, man. Right on. Yeah. So be good time. I like Christie. Yeah, he's in town. He's doing a gig tomorrow night at the Paramount, I think. One of the big theaters appear, I think. I think that's it. That's where I first met EGET. Adam EGET. He's the fucking man.

1:56:39He's the greatest. The fucker. We've become very good friends. We text each other music like we're dating. Oh, sweet. We have very similar music. We have very similar music. Like old hardcore and shit. Oh, look at you guys. Yeah. Maybe you're the one who put that swastik up in my wall. I couldn't get up a ladder. You create sound of a bitch. That's why you're so into that thing. I love the swall. You're laughing. Because it was you. Yeah. It was me the whole time, Jess. It was so ridiculous looking at it. I was like, why is it still here? Like, I understand that nobody here made it. But you got it.

1:57:07You just fucking go get it. That should've been the first thing. You get with that. Yeah. You know about the Eiffel Tower during the German occupation? Yeah. They'd put a fucking swall on the top of the Eiffel Tower, like a big flag. Really? And every day, Frenchmen would climb the tower and they'd get shot down or fall off until one of them got that fucking swastik off the tower. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, they resisted pretty hard. Wow. But think about how majestic that swall must've looked flapping up there. Jesus Christ. Yeah. It's sort of like that thing that they did with Shaila Boe when he had that website.

1:57:39And Fort Zhang got to the bottom of the place. Or he would not divide us. Yeah. And then he was like fly out of the house. It was the most brilliant thing that anyone's ever done to the end of the year. It was amazing. And then, do you know that a radio lab took the podcast down where they were describing it? No. They had a whole podcast. I heard that podcast. Why did they take it down? Because they were saying that Fort Chan is associated with racism, homophobia, all sorts of other things. And it's just like to elevate that website and talk about that. And so they decided to delete it. But I had already listened to it by the time they deleted it.

1:58:17Is it back up? No, no. You can find it. I've just found it. Okay. So here's the radio lab. Radio lab has decided to take down this episode. Some listeners called us out. Called us out is a, that's so fucking woke speak. They called us out. Saying that and telling the capture of the flag story and the way that we did, we essentially condoned some pretty despicable ideology and behavior. No, you're not. You're just talking about a thing that happened. You're just giving information. Yeah. To all the listeners who felt that way and to everyone else, please know that we hear you and that we take these criticisms to heart.

1:58:49I feel awful that the things we said could be interpreted that way. That's on us. It was certainly not our intention and we apologize. That's fucking lame. That's pissy shit right there. It doesn't make sense. Because if you listen to what it was, it was like they just thought that Shyla Bof, how do you say it? La Bof. La Bof I think. They just thought he was being ridiculous. Yeah. They thought he was being self -aggrandizing and just a silly actor far. Very pretentious. Very pretentious. And they were like, let's find that fucking glass. Get it. I loved it. Yeah. I loved it. I thought it was hilarious.

1:59:24I mean, there's no one connected to that. When you're reading that or seeing that and listening to that, you just have internet wizards figured out a way to get to a spot where something annoying was on the internet. Or a door was flexing. And they won. That's the wall. That's the wall. That's the wall getting into the honey piece, dude. Yes. They ate his larva. They ate his larva. And then the guy goes up to the camera goes, fuck Shyla Bof. Is that still available? Can we hear that? See if you can find that. Because that shit's amazing. Yeah. I remember listening to that radio lab and go, that's so clever.

2:00:03Yeah. Those guys figured that out. And how did that get connected to ideology? Just because some of it exists on an internet free website, like 4chan, where basically anything goes. It's just unmoderated free speech. Yes. That's what happens sometimes. That doesn't mean that the people who did that are in lockstep with any idea. No, they're not Nazis because they figured out where Shyla Bof's art installation was. No one knows. I mean, I haven't heard an argument. I mean, maybe there have been ones about the people that actually did it. I mean, it's all just like that that website is bad. So don't say that.

2:00:41Don't talk about this awesome thing that happened. That's so condescending. It's so paternalistic to be like, we can't give you this information because it might make you frown. Well, that's fucking it. Kids are being used to being treated that way. That's why they're demanding it. Like, you should be able to listen to an actual Nazi talk. Yes. Because it's educational. Yeah. Because you get to see this like slippery logic they use to apply it to human beings. Now, disgusting it is. And now it's always been like that throughout history. People have other people for whatever reason. And usually it's because it makes it easier to subjugate them.

2:01:14Easier to dominate them. Dude, Hitler was no good, but he can move a crowd. Goddamn, can he fuck this. That guy killed that Wiley Austrian. We watched a speech of his versus who was it that we opposed it? Put it opposite of Bernie Mac. I'm not scared of you, motherfucker, Seth versus. That was amazing. That was amazing. That was one of the best open lines ever. If you see Cory Holcomb, it's Shaq's benefit, dude. You know what I have? What do you got James open this was the fuck child above the part, but it's not. Is this where they figured it out? This is the actual flag. So this is the unedited video.

2:01:54The fact that they figured this out. Dude, it's just amazing. Poor Chan rules. That's just amazing. Location found. That's just amazing. Fuck, Shia Lebu. It shows all of the posts that they made. Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah, they may put some music behind this. So those are the guys that did it? I honestly don't know. Four Chan is using flight plans. Look at that. Go back to that. Four Chan is using flight plans to locate that he will not divide us flag. Godspeed, lads. This is what happens when you don't get any pussy for long enough. Yeah, man, you're fucking with nerds. You know, these guys are dangerous.

2:02:35Yeah, dude. And they're having a good time and they won. They got it. They won. So it was all worth it. Yeah. You know what that must have felt like when they got that flag, it must have been like when Izzio, Adesandia, knocked out Alex Pettera. Right on the button. You know, it's like this thing that you, like how did we do it? It's when they got the flag. They put the four thirty six AM. That's dedication. They're disciplined. They're up at four thirty six AM. Yeah. Capturing flags. That's also organic energy. That's people working together with like minded ideals, you know? I'm a fan. Yeah, hell yeah.

2:03:10That kind of work. Yes. How did they take that episode down? The episode was really well done too. It's unfortunate because it doesn't condone anything. No. It's not true. And this whole, they called us out. Like no, they didn't. They complained about something. Your work should stand for itself. And I thought it did. It's silly. Also, you can't live in this bubble where you don't know about ulterior modes of thought, you know? Like if you just found out about fortune from that radio light episode, that's on you for not being engaged in the cultural conversation. That's bullshit. That's one of the fears that people have about Twitter.

2:03:41Oh, yeah. When Elon took over, the fears they have about Twitter is it basically becomes fortune on wheels. It's like. It's fortune with advertisers. It's fortune owned by the biggest billionaire troll that's ever existed. I mean, Elon trolls people. Yeah. He always thinks there's girls on Twitter. There's none on fortune. Yeah, there's probably no girls on fortune. Well, there are those in cells that decide to go trans. There's like a word in those. Yeah, yeah. There's a word for in cells that specifically decide to go trans. Yeah, they got like hip note or whatever. What are they called? Jamie, do you know?

2:04:18How are you doing over there with that honey? I'm loving it, dude. You're right. I'm coming alive. Yeah. It seems to be affecting you. I mean, I have a nice time. It seems different than it's affecting me. I'm wondering why. I don't know, dude. Maybe because I'm a big fat guy and you're cut from marble. You know, it's different metabolism. It's not. I'm wondering what is it about the honey that... Because the other guy that took... Well, he took more than me. Trans -maxing. I'm giggling. This is a subculture of young men who embrace trans identities. Not because they believe they're born with the wrong body, but because they can't get no boozer.

2:04:50Dude, you're about to touch them. Who ran the Discord cult where he would... If you want to get in and be able to see photos of ladies like this, you have to send me a photo of yourself dressed up like a lady like this. That was like a way to prove that you were cool. And then he was blackmailing all these dudes being like, look, he's trans. We got his ass in like threatening to send these pictures to their family and then they had to send Bitcoin and shit to this guy. The problem was not being funny. Because a photo of me and addresses worth zero dollars to me. I know, dude. You okay? I put a dress on.

2:05:24Big deal. Look at my lipstick. Look at my face. I'm looking fake eyelashes on, bitch. Look like Rosie O'Donnell over here. Someone got a photo of me wearing high heels, walking around and girls underwear. I'd be like, yeah, I did that. That was funny. We're bulletproof in that way. In that way. But, man, if you're a banker and there's pictures of you doing a dress, you're a fucked man. Yeah. You're in fucking deep shit. Yeah, if you work at like a college, yeah, you're in deep shit. Because then they're mad at you for appropriating culture. That's one great thing about working for the UFC. If they caught you wearing a dress somewhere, no one will give a shit.

2:05:59Yeah, they'd probably like blow it up and put it in the locker room. They'd be like, see, we're in inclusive. Exactly. We're making friends all over. Let's go. Let's go. You in full tycoon over there. Let's go. Yeah, you when you lean back, when you see her, it's tycoon. Yeah. We're just fucking lighter, dude. I'll keep this thing light. I should have another one, but Ari stole it. I keep blowing it too. I still have two here. But Ari's your feet. I think I'm mad at it. Told him he could have it, though. Did I tell him he could have it? We were a little lit. But by that time. So how many days in town, Mr.

2:06:33Town? I'll be on Thursday, man. I'm doing your, uh, your lovely comedy club tomorrow. And that little boy, fat man's in the little boy. Yeah, the little room is awesome. It's such an intimate little room. It's such a cool little room. That's where, uh, Chappelle did his, uh, he did the first night there, the first show. Mm -hmm. Uh, Shane Gillis and Chappelle was the first show ever in that one. Yeah. Which is what an amazing show. Right now. I was here for a South by and Chappelle was going on. I had to run over and do my South by shows. And I was like, fuck. I want to stay here. I want to experience.

2:07:05It was pretty fucking dope. Yeah. It was pretty dope. It was cool to have. First of all, it was cool to have Louis in early because Louis gave me some really, really good advice. And we fixed some things because of his advice. Like right before they were, some meant was about to be poured. We shrunk the stage in the little room. It was Louis' advice. Yeah. And we dropped the ceiling down a little bit in the little room. And that was also Louis' advice. It was already a pretty small ceiling, but he's like, drop it down even more. Make it flat right here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I can like palm the ceiling.

2:07:35Yeah. And then, um, in the big room, he had us drop the main ceiling down as well. It's nice, man. It's nice to have. It's nice to have it set up that way. And to have guys like him and, you know, his advice and to have, uh, Dave come down and Dave just loved it. Dave's building his own place. He's building his own place in the yellow springs. In Ohio? Yeah, it's called the firehouse. It used to be an actual firehouse. Well, it's going to be a pole of the stage. I don't know. That would be cool. That would be great. I don't know if it's still there. I mean, maybe it's been something since then, but it used to be a firehouse.

2:08:08And, um, you know, I mean, having him come out and check in this out, and then he's like, dude, now I'm inspired. So whatever he's going to do in the yellow springs can be very interesting. Because it's, I think he's doing 120 seats. Holy shit. I think he's doing a size, the size of little boy. Damn, dude. Imagine that. Like, you can go see Dave Chappelle at any given night. In his backyard. What a great idea though. Like, he's Dave Chappelle. He could do that anywhere. Like, why not? Why not, like, build your own club and have the people come to you? Of course they're going to come to see Dave Chappelle.

2:08:39It'll be a vacation destination. Like, like, your club is. People were from all over the world last night at Killtony. But I don't know how many hotels they have in yellow springs. Build a hotel. Build a fucking hotel. Yeah, dude, become the monopolist. And the neighbor's going to complain. This is Dave Chappelle. Kill the neighbors. Kill the neighbors. Who cares Dave? Like, how you think immediately with the perfect answer? Yeah. Yeah. So his, that spot's going to be, it's going to be interesting. If more comics start doing this, buy in an opening clubs. I was with, uh, damn dude, Shane's so fucking funny.

2:09:10I was with Shane last weekend and he was talking about the club. And just like how, if you got a bunch of like comedians in a room, like monkeys with a typewriter, like they would hammer it out. And it would fucking look like your club. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's perfect, dude. Well, it's, you know, because it was built just for that. Yeah. We had all this time, you know. I already had the employees lined up, you know, so it was like, there's all this time to just do it right. And you assemble the squad, dude. You know, like the A team in there. That's pretty awesome. Yeah. There are awesome people.

2:09:40Yeah. And now I got to hang out with Egett and we could have sit in the back and say rude things to each other. And the fact that all this has happened in a while, like a really robust open mic program is happening, dude. You got a farm team, dude. Yeah. Just kind of like that in a way. Yeah. It's fun. You should be proud of yourself. I'm excited. I'm excited about it. I mean, it's, um, it's one of those things you probably shouldn't think about too much. No, no. Just, just, just accepted. I think that's why the Honey is working for me, because this whole time I was sitting here thinking, I'm on the Joe Rogan experience, and then the Honey hit.

2:10:08And I'm like, um, just like trying to keep us to garl it and drinking a beer with a cool guy. But that's what it really is. Yeah. That's what's weird about it being this popular. It's just hanging out. I know. But you know this is like a really big deal, you know. Like maybe I'll sell out Cedar Rapids this weekend. Well, I hope you do. You're a funny guy. It's, uh, it's nice to be able to do it. Mm -hmm. I mean, it's one of the cool things about the skin. Putting people on. Yeah, I love it, dude. All these goals. You know, there's not that many of us budding. Out there in the world. People with skulls?

2:10:44Maybe they're no. Oh, comedians. Oh, comedians. They might be like a thousand of those. Yeah. Yeah. Not that many. I don't know, dude. I've been traveling the world a lot, doing stand -up. Because like that's a real up -and -coming thing now. Like Paris and, uh, you know, like, Bratislava and stuff. Italy, like Barcelona. And there's a lot of comics out there. But good God -American comedians are the best to ever do it. All say that. It's our shit. Yeah. Yeah. It's like we invented the timing. We invented the whole rhythm of the thing. Disrupting about, I don't know what it is. There's something about the way, like, a lot of Europeans are raised.

2:11:21That it's a hurdle to get to Americans stand -up. Less of a hurdle for Australians. Oh, yeah. They slide right into it. They're funny, people who go wild. Yeah, my boy, Monty Franklin's coming tonight, too. Nice. But in terms of, like, English versus American, there's a few guys like this ricketer vase. And there's a few guys who could really do it. But it's like, it's a different style of communication over there. Yeah. It doesn't necessarily apply that directly without completely remapping how you talk about things. It's the whole storytelling thing they do over there, dude. Yeah. I mean, Jim Jeffries, obviously, he rules that Connelly guy.

2:11:57He's fucking good. Scotland, right? But it's like, if you go to a place where it's English as a second language, and you're the American comedian, you're body -ing everyone. It's nuts. It's a bloodbath. Why do you think the level over here is so much higher? Because we've been doing it longer. Is that what it is? I think so. And also, like, we value humor than a lot more than other places do, I think. I think also, it's real hard to develop if you're the funniest guy in the room. Oh, yeah. For sure. I think you have to have people you aspire to. Yeah. And that's one of the more important things about comedy communities.

2:12:30And that's one of the things that I thought a lot about when I first got here. When I first got here, before I thought about like, Jesus Christ, you really want to open up a fucking comic, right? Is that really what you want to do at your time? You know, I've told me already. You don't have any time. Right. How you can do this? But then I thought, like, that's actually a very valuable piece of the puzzle. And the more I didn't have it, the more I was realizing, like, it's most of my fun at nighttime is hanging out with comics and talking. Most of my fun at nighttime. It's either, you know, like, talking in the green room, or it's, uh, fucking around after the show, going and having a drink, or getting something to eat, like, that's like some of the most fun times I have.

2:13:10That's why we're the luckiest people, dude. Because everywhere you go, you hang out with the funniest people in that city. Yeah. But if you don't have that, if you're just, you know, whatever, some weird town somewhere, and you start an open mic night, it's hard to get good. Oh, for sure. You need, like, real comics around you. Yeah. Really good comics around you. It's not even enough to be watching it on YouTube. You got to kind of see it live. Yeah. You got to experience it live. It's like, well, right, you go on the road, and then you meet someone really funny, and like, South Bend or Cincinnati, and you're like, yo, you got to get the fuck out of here.

2:13:39You got to go somewhere else. Because you're really funny, and you're not going to get as funny as you can here. And there's also a thing that happens when comics get established. Yeah. And then they get their own audience, and then they bring the weakest possible opening act. And then they go on afterwards, only in front of their audience, and they look like a hero. Right. Yeah. You know, it's a weird thing, because your act sort of deteriorates without you even knowing it. Right. Yeah. You know, you ossify, you get soft, yeah. Yeah. Some shit goes wrong. You don't, you got to be around killers.

2:14:09You got to be a Bill Burst of this once. He was talking about somebody, and he goes, you got to do the clubs. You got to do the clubs. These guys, they get to a certain point, they stop doing the clubs, and they, they, they, they're acts, falls apart. Yeah. It's 100 % true. Like, you got to do it in front of live people, small crowds, medium crowds, and that's why we set up these two rooms. We have small, and then a regular, you get 250, and 120, which is like the right numbers. You know, it's like 300 is the magic number for a comedy club. Yeah. Or it'd be intimate, but still big, you know, 300 is the magic number.

2:14:42So anywhere you can get between like 250 and 300 is like the sweet zone. It's like comedy works. Yeah. It's the sweet zone. You get to those big fucking stand -up live in Phoenix. That's huge. It's impersonal. It's so big, it's like a small theater. It's fine to watch people in the front, but it's like, you know, it's like a small theater. You watch people do crowd work in those big rooms, and there's people in back, and it's like, who is he talking to? Zero idea. Let's see the back of the head back there. Yeah, they have zero idea what's going on. It's funny when I was opening for Tim, like figuring out how to do comedy in front of like 33600 people or whatever it is, because you can't do crowd work.

2:15:15Right. You have to have an act. Yeah. And like, that's what I got super strong is I had like a bulletproof 25 instead of relying on like riffing or, you know, talking to the crowd. It's like, no, here are my jokes, and these are proven. I can't imagine those arenas you, dude. Those are fucking crazy, dude. Those are weird. But they're actually kind of intimate if it's in the round. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't necessarily think that an arena like where the back is the stage, and you know, the audience is in front of you. Like normal is, is is intimate as a theater. It's less intimate than a theater, but more people.

2:15:52But when you're in the round, there's something about being in the round that's more intimate than a theater. It's really weird, because you're surrounded by people. And the people are seeing the other people. Like everybody sees everybody, and everybody's enjoying one of the things about laughter. It's contagious. You're actually seeing, looking straight ahead at people laughing. It's kind of more fun. Yeah. And there's like this weird sort of sense of like we're all here together having a good time thing. That is less apparent when behind you is just a stage wall. Dude, remember those Zoom shows?

2:16:25You ever do that shit? No. Yeah, you don't have to. No, I wouldn't have done it. I did it. It was funny. No, just because it was like, oh, I'll entertain some people in the middle of the day, you know. And they're just like, oh, God, dude. I watch some people bomb at the laugh factory to stand up for no audience. Yes. And it was so weird, like the steps they were taking to make sure everyone was safe. I put a giant hamster bubble and fucking roll you up to the stage. No. They bubble -boy -do? No. I would have done that for sure. I would have loved to have been the little. Imagine they develop a hamster shoot and you just roll out from the green room.

2:17:01Okay. Sam talent. Ready to launch it. You roll onto the stage. I would have to keep rolling, dude. I would go right through the door. Gravity has a weird effect on a man in my size. So people are on that stage with a microphone in no audience. Yeah. So weird. You need an audience. You can't practice stand up in a vacuum. It doesn't work. That's why it's like the only like pure way of entertaining. Look at Tim Dylan when he does his show. He has an audience of one. Uh -huh. The producer. Yeah, but he's a once in a fucking generation broadcaster, dude. Yeah. Tens the dog. He's a man. I gotta hang out with Tim so much.

2:17:35See him interact with people? Fucking rules. He's the fucking man. One time, he's the greatest ranter of all time. He was like, some lady came in and was super annoying in Australia. And then he like said some shit to her. And she laughed and I was laughing. And he was like, here's a people that don't know. I'm a new money homosexual from Long Island. I'm a problem. People forget. People forget about me because I look like this. No, no, I'm nasty. I was just like howling, dude. Slap in my legs. He's the man. He's the greatest. He put me on, dude. I fucking love Tim. He's so funny. And he's such a good person.

2:18:09Janorous. He's a fun guy. That's the weird thing about meeting like crazy as fuck, too. Oh, sure. Yeah. I love him. Yeah. Undiagnosed. You know. There's definitely some shit going on. But it makes good real estate choices, too. Dude, his fucking rants though. What he's doing is he's developing material like in a laboratory. Yeah. It's so good because he's gotten that muscle of doing that and ranting. It's so strong now because he's used to putting them together. It was funny we were talking about it because he's like all day long now. I can't relax because I'm thinking, okay, what am I going to fucking?

2:18:41What's my take on this? What am I going to say about that? I'm mad about this. What am I mad at? What am I getting off of it? I'm like, oh, right, because you have to come up with all of it yourself. You have to have valid things, things that are going to capture people. I want to see his take on Dylan Mulvaney. I bet it's amazing. I bet it is. New wants in profound and vulgar and smart. I bet it's amazing. Dude Tim and I, when we were on the road together, he would just find a really expensive house and a range of viewing of the house. And we'd go in and waste some realtor's time for an hour.

2:19:12Like she'd be like, and these were the windows and he'd be like, very good Charlotte. And then she'd turn and be like, dog shit trash. I wouldn't even kill someone in this room. Tell, it's ox. It could be good. I'd be bad. Why does he go and look at houses? Guys, there's something to do on the road. That's so weird. One time a lady took us upstairs and it was like, the downstairs was beautiful. And the upstairs was just like leftover materials, total rush job. And we're like, oh fuck. And she like grabs us and takes us into the bedroom. And she points at the fire alarms. And she's like, these are about to be the industry standard.

2:19:41These are big. These are going to take the world by storm. And Tim turns to me and he goes, it's not good when she's selling the fire alarms. You know the house is bad. You know the house is bad when that's the selling point upstairs. He told me, he was talking about like what he does on the internet. Like, I'm like, watch a lot of YouTube videos, mostly nonsense. And he goes, I'm on Zillow. He is, dude. He's on Zillow. He's living in houses constantly. I know. But I mean, you got to, you know, that's what his original thing was. So subprime mortgages. Oh yeah, he skins a part of the crisis. Yeah.

2:20:12Yeah, he flees to nation. Have you seen when he does Meghan McCain? Of course. Of course. Of course. Of course. Of course. Of course. Of course. Of course. Of course. Of course. Of course. character. He's invented a character. It's a lampoon, Maggie. Yeah. He's invented a completely different character than you. Uh -huh. He just wouldn't it be funny? Because Maggie became this insane. Yeah. It's just like holy shit. Also, Maggie McCain see really as huge breasts, which Tim pointed out to me. Oh, are they secret? I don't know. She does a good job keeping them under wraps. It's crazy when a gay guy points out a cool set of hooters and you're like, I want to see the world through your eyes.

2:20:59Interesting. Yeah. Interesting. Well, he studied her. Yes, he did. He studied her for that piece, like a predator. Yeah. Like a bobcat looking at a chick. He's like that falcon getting loose out of the window, dude. Yeah. That's how Tim sees the world. It's prey. Oh. Yeah. He's the man. He is the man. I was so excited when he just started to come out here too. Oh, he's so excited about being here. Let me tell you. He loves it in Austin. He hates Austin. I know. He loves a club, though, but he hates everywhere. Of course. I don't do Tim Okami and he's like, I'm going to get off the road for a couple of months.

2:21:35And then like a week later, I see his dates. And it's like, you were now. You're a fucking gypsy, dude. And he's not going off the road. No. He loves it out there. He also keeps houses in a bunch of different states. He likes to do it. He does. But what we talked about. The week after he moved here, we had a deep freeze where it fucking rained, freezing rain for like five days in a row and shut everything down. And I had him on the podcast right afterwards. He goes, we were considering sewing you. Where the fuck did you move me? That never happens, dude. It happened again this year. Yeah. It happens.

2:22:09Tim will call you and he's just in the middle of a conversation he's been having with himself, you know? Yeah. He'll be like, dark and trussles got a puppet. What's going on there? That's how you say hello? Is that okay? Are we allowing puppets now? It's good. It works. It could be, it could be bad. Tim, the whole trick to doing Tim is you say one thing and then say it could be bad. Right, right, right. You go the opposite way. It could be good. It could be bad. Yeah, this is what's stupid about the world today. Our conversation about Bud Light and Dylan Mulvaney is going to make news. Oh yeah.

2:22:41It's the dumbest thing ever. Uh huh. I'm on the side of everybody having a nice cold Bud Light. Oh yeah, I'm not into Bud Light at all anyway. So, can I have that other one? Yeah, you can have it. It's not my thing. Thanks, man. I get it. People like a cold, bland drink. Hey, Ton, take the day off. I like the scene, but I like the scene. I like the scene, but I like the scene. Yeah, you like the test and metal of your mouth. But I just like, I think it's funny when people, oh, I saw a really funny one. Someone he took a Travis Trit. There's a photo of Travis Trit and it said like the Travis Trit will no longer sell uh, and he has a bush because of Dylan Mulvaney.

2:23:22And then it said also Travis Trit and he's basically wearing like the most feminine like country leather outfit, like a blue leather outfit. Yeah. Strings hanging down from it. Like one of the most unmanely looking like tight leather pants, high heels. Yeah. Let's see if you can find that. Dude, where's the lucky word comics? Because if we tried that shit, we would get lit up, dude. For sure. There's so many comics that keep me grounded. It rules. Yeah, getting lit up is very important. Yeah, the group chat. No, that's not it, but that's one of them. It was, he was wearing like some, that kind of shit.

2:23:59Yeah, that's it right there. But it said also Travis Trit and showed this outfit. It's not a ho -gram, I'm not sure. If that guy came over, he was dating your daughter and it wasn't Travis Trit. It was Travis Trit. He gets a pass, obviously. He's a superstar. Yeah. But if it wasn't Travis Trit and this guy came over, it's like where do you work, man? Mine of you. Dude, you have that outfit. That's a break, Pat. You're going to fucking chill. He's baby back ribs with that fucking outfit on. What are you doing, buddy? There it is. That's the picture. That's the picture. These rules also Travis Trit.

2:24:30Good for Travis. Good for Travis, low cut shirt. That guy's not into transgender stuff. I don't know why. He's sent so much time in his salon. That's exactly the point. Yeah, that's the point. Maybe we hate what we fear we are. It's like that Guns and Roses song, Living Let Die. Yeah. Da -da -da. Da -da -da. Da -da -da. Da -da -da. Living Let Die. That's when I first came to LA right after the Guns and Roses scene had busted loose. It was like 1994. That's when I first came to LA. It was so different that man. Whew. Such a weird place. It was just this launching pad for dreams. That's what it felt like when you got there.

2:25:11Everyone was just there to pursue a dream. There was like electricity in the air. When you're in your 20s and you're in LA and you're like everyone's trying to make it. People are trying to get on sitcoms and things can go out again. Of course. Yeah. You get them over here. They're tightly but they're nice. They're a nice pole but they're a little tight. You see that picture going around with the two? Hell yeah. So he was drinking Bud Light with a transgender version. Yeah, 2003. Hell yeah. Well he changed his views. People of all. People changed. Kid rock. He got a little tense. I mean I think when it became so prevalent people start to panic.

2:25:47Yeah. That's what it is. You know, it's like what is happening here? Like what are we doing? Why is it so prevalent? People of all. Maybe people feel safer to come out and be themselves. It could be that. Yeah. It could be that. It can also be people just like people are easily influenced in any way. People are influenced in a way that if there was something that came along, anything that came along, that gave you a sense of belonging to a group and then a sense of being praised for that. And then a sense that you're on, you're in part of a new movement. Like all those things are very attractive to people.

2:26:26No matter what it is, if it involves religion, if it involves gender, if it involves whatever ideology. If all of a sudden it could become a group, you're in a group, you're praised for being a part of that group, and praised for your decisions, and you get all this attention now. And you also get this feeling that you are on the right side, and there's a righteous element to it. This could be with anything. And this is how people get sucked into all sorts of stuff. And then there's also gender dysphoria, which is absolutely real. 100 % real. And it's a psychological condition that's existed forever.

2:27:05They don't understand it because biology is strange, and that's the reality of being a human being. There's so much variation, there's so many variables, there's so many things that go right, so many things that go sideways, so many things that are odd, or queer, is weird things. That's why my number one beef with people that get really religious is the gay stuff. Like what do you want them to do? Are you or are you not pro -freedom? Right, dude, freedom is the big thing. Freebs are the thing, pursuit of happiness. I'm telling you, these guys are happy when they fuck guys. Hell yeah, good for them.

2:27:38I know a bunch of them, they're all being honest. They're happier than me. They're doing great. Go down Santa Monica Boulevard. Yeah. There's five blocks that guys have in a great fucking time. Go to Tim Dylan's hotel room. Go to Tim Dylan's hotel room. Go to Tim Lee Malone. Yeah, no dude, I just think that it's really weird to be an on -s -y. I think you can't on -s -y. Oh yeah, or on -s -mout.

2:28:03There's just like people who are so obsessed with the idea of expressing themselves, and they get mad at other people for doing the same thing, because it weirds them out, dude. You know what I think it is? It's one of those things where if you buy into this side of the group, you have to adopt a bunch of different ideas. And all those ideas, like you can't have air, you can't be like pro -life, but also think that we need to take away all the guns. Oh yeah. No one's gonna let you in their group. Like what side are you on, you crazy fuck? You're a pro -life person who thinks that we should take everyone's guns.

2:28:35No, no, no. Pro -life is over there with the First Amendment. You're carrying a mama with a gun. Yeah, you're on the wrong team. Also pro -life, you never whoopsied in a girl in El Paso? Whoopsie. Exactly. What are you talking about? Yeah. Well the conversation about that that I've had with people is with religious people, particularly this one guy, was very weird because it was like his thought was at conception. Oh no. So I was like, what if it's the day of? What if the day of? And you can just take something and it just, it vanishes. Well we're talking about like two cells. Nope. No, two wrongs don't make a right even under rape.

2:29:11We were talking about rapeing children being raped. You're like, you're out of your fucking mind. Yeah. And this is crazy. Also it's not pro -life or anti -life. It's pro -choice, anti -choice. That's the whole frame. But if I was a conspiracy theorist, I was a real tinfoil hat guy. Let's go to the... I would say if I wanted to keep everybody fighting against each other, I would, my chest move would make would be conservatives get rid of Roe v. Wade. Let's get rid of, oh fucking, arms in the streets. And then liberals, let's start pushing. Let's start pushing the most radical ideas and try to make the mainstream.

2:29:48The most radical ideas. Like exorbitant taxes for the wealth, income, inequality. Like ignore all the money the same side is pumping into the military industrial complex. Ignore all the influence of the pharmaceutical companies. Just concentrate on social ideas. Hell yeah, dude. Push them and get wacky people in your cabinet. Even if these people are totally incompetent. If you can say this is the most diverse cabinet that's ever been assembled. And that's what they do say. And then you got that fucking crazy dude with the beard who wears a dress who's non -binary, steals women's luggage. That fucking dude is wearing the White House in charge of getting rid of a nuclear waste or some shit.

2:30:27Let's get a wig on that guy. Fucking amazing though, when stuff like that happens. If I wanted to keep people divided and not pay attention to centralized digital currency, which tells you Gabbard's freaking out about now. They're trying to do that. If I wanted to keep people ignorant of that stuff, that's what I would do. I would move the cultural chess pieces in a way that I have the loudest fringe people. On this side and the loudest fringe people on that side. So that all the people that generally agree on most stuff don't ever get along. Because they're either on this side or that side. And that side is represented by a dude with a beard and a dress who steals women's luggage.

2:31:06And this side is represented by that fucking lady who assaulted me and asked me. It's like Trump's out real president. I knew you're a patriot. Oh no. You don't want to be associated with these people. You don't want to be associated with these people. You don't want to be associated with anti -vaxxers. And you don't want to be associated with whatever fucking fill in the blank that this side hates. There's no more religious ideologues. Yeah. But it's almost like it's engineered. Oh it is for sure. They try to use class war and then people realize that money does move everything. So they saw through that and they try to use racing against each other.

2:31:42Race got together. So now it's ideologies dude. Yeah. That's what they're doing. And then they can do whatever they fucking want behind the curtain because our eyes have the wool pulled over so egregiously. And then this is this beautiful component of climate change. Oh yeah. They throw that in there too. And this is one that people do get out over. The people on the right say it's not that big of a deal. And it's like it's a natural cycle. And it's a this and that. And most of these people are they're pumping out these narratives without even really paying attention to the facts. And there's other people that say we're going to boil in 30 years.

2:32:12The ocean's going to boil. We're all going to die. Yeah. But the more time goes on, the more we look at this this whole trend of the weather, the more it occurs to me at least that it's never been stable. Ever the history of the world. It's all fucking like this and that and it goes ice age and it gets crazy hot and it goes cold again. It's like it's always done that. It's not like if we don't do anything, it just stays stable. So let's just say that right away. Even if we didn't exist, this fucking thing is not stable. Even if we did not exist. So then the question is how much do we affect it?

2:32:45And we definitely affect it. For sure. There's no chance we don't. We're pumping gas into the atmosphere. Yeah. It's having a warming effect. Like how bad is that warming effect? That's what we need to know. And what do we have to do to stop that warming effect? Or at least slow down that warming effect? That's what we need to know. But all this fucking panic and hysteria and you need to get rid of this and get rid of that. We're going to go all electric. Like what the fuck are you talking about? What do you pro lithium mining in the Congo? Yeah. Is that what you are? Are you pro child slavery to get cobalt?

2:33:15Right. So where are you getting these batteries? How are you getting 8 billion people to move around electric cars? Where do you get those minerals? You don't. They literally don't exist. No, there's not enough. There's not enough. So there's also no ethical consumption under capitalism and all that fucking Marxist stuff. That's true, but also sounds tried at this point. So it's like, I think that we'll be lucky if we make it to 100 years to see the seas boil without some kind of economic collapse crushing us. So we're out there selling our holes for bullets and salt. Well, I think we're going to have an economic collapse.

2:33:45But I don't think the whole world will. I think what happens is just what the need is for now. But what happens is what always happens. A new empire takes over. Sure. China. China is there's in quantum computers to hack all of our fucking shit, dude. They're saving all of our information to the point where they can get quantum computers. And then they can hack everyone's pin codes and bank accounts and just steal all the money from America. That's the big move. Whoa. Yeah. So that's TikTok. So yeah, exactly. Well, it's part of it. TikTok's the Trojan horse. Yeah.

2:34:17I'm going to put my money in gold. Yeah, dude. So what? You know, there's only enough. Did you see this? I saw this the other day. The amount of gold in the world is so small. It's crazy. The amount of gold in the world is something like 75 feet square. What? Yeah. I thought they had vaults full of it from Florida ceiling. I thought so too. The actual amount of gold in the world they said was like the size of a cricket pitch. What? Is that bullshit? No. It goes up. It goes up. It goes up. Go get some gold. It's volume. It's not just going to cover it. Right. Yeah, but I don't mean like the size, but 75 feet square.

2:34:55That's like a solid brick. That's like it's showing pictures of it on the one -chilling core. Yeah, but it's like it's like it's. But it should. Can you show me what it looked like on the wheel with the front? It's towering. Okay. It's still. But it's still not that much. That's the whole world. So it's like half of a twin tower. So it's 75 feet high and how long is it? It's using very strange ways. What is it saying? It's just a magic tons. Okay. So it's only, it's 208 ,874 tons of gold. It's been mined throughout history of which around two thirds have been mined since 1950. And since gold is virtually indestructible, this means almost all of this metal is still around in one form or another.

2:35:38Wow. But its owning gold is going to help you when I'm like on a leash from a warlord, you know? Did you? Did you? No, it's a really good one. It's from the work of Zechariah Sitchin, who was one of the guys who translated the ancient Sumerian texts. And he believed that the human race is a product of accelerated evolution and that the Sumerian texts depicts these godlike beings called the Anunnaki who come here from a planet called Nibiru that's on an elliptical orbit. Every 3 ,600 years comes between us and Mars. It causes cataclysm because of the gravity and all the chaos. But that these beings came down here and inserted their DNA into lower primates and created this being.

2:36:27And one of the reasons why it came here is because gold is very difficult to find in the universe. Now that's the truth about the earth only has that much gold. Imagine that one of the reasons why these beings gave us this desire to have gold. Why gold was so popular? Always, early on. It was a useless metal. So what of it was pretty? How come you could buy a house with bags of gold? Shouldn't you have steel for a sword or for arrowheads or something like that? Well anything would be more of that. Well salt was very valuable. But this is different because this is like a form of money. Why has it universally been regarded as valuable, really early on?

2:37:05And what he said was that they realized that they could take the suspended particles of gold and put them in their atmosphere and it would protect them because their atmosphere was eroding. And so this would be like a reflective, like reflective particles they spray in the atmosphere. Like what Bill Gates wants to do, where he like blocks up his own. So this is crazy about this. This guy wrote about this in like the 1970s. He wrote this, what is it called the 12th planet, I think? That was the first of them. I think he wrote multiple books on this, on the Samaritan text. But in, I think it was like the 1970s or somewhere around then they were having this sort of symposium on what to do in the sense of like ozone depletion and climate change.

2:37:49Is there a way to suspend reflective particles in the atmosphere to block out some of the harmful rays of the sun? So that was their idea. So what this book is trying to say is the reason why humans are obsessed with goals, because like the aliens designed us to mine and get the gold. And then they would use that gold to protect their atmosphere. So they impregnated us with this idea that gold has value because they need it to enhance their ability to keep living. It's a fun idea. It's a fun idea. It's all that shit. If you're doing Bonghats and you're like, watch the high -end hallucinogenic honey.

2:38:24And you hear Joe Rogan saying it in your head. It's cool when you see Zacharias Hitchin too, because he's just like very scholarly looking gentleman with an awesome name. And he's like pointing out all these different things like the caduceus, the sign of medicine, like the universal sign of medicine. He's like, that's the double helix of DNA. That's what that is. That's why it snakes around with that. And he says, and it represents medicine in ancient Sumer. And it also, like it's present in these very weird stone tablets. Some of these stone tablets have images of this enormous being with this human creature on its lap, but the thing has a tail.

2:39:06It's really weird. It's really weird stuff. And they also had a depiction of the entire solar system, all the planets in the solar system, and roughly the same size and roughly the same place. So they had an idea of what planets were out there in 6 ,000 BC, or whatever it was, 5 ,000 BC. That's fucking insane. It doesn't make any sense. How does everything we know now? It's fucking insane. And it's wild to look at. Like you see this clay tablet. It has what is like clearly the sun in the center. Look at this thing. How wild is that? Are the Anunnaki, the albino ones? Are those the albino aliens?

2:39:41Um, I don't know that. I don't have anything about that. I am only familiar with the chariots of the God's type shit. Yeah, the chariots of the God is interesting too. I met that guy. Really? Yeah, Eric Von Daniken. I went to a lunch. It's very wealthy guy that I know is interested in this kind of stuff. And I think one of his friends was as well. And so they decided to have this guy come over. And they said, do you know anybody who knows a lot about this stuff? And then my friend called me up and said, do you want to come and talk to Eric Von Daniken? Yes. I was like, yes. It's a little sexual.

2:40:15Let's go. This guy was asking all these questions. I think he's a true believer. He's a true believer. He's a true believer that all these things are created by aliens, whether it's the pyramids or all these other structures that are impossible to do today. I'm a believer that all those structures are most likely the evidence of a super -advanced civilization that existed that got wiped out by meteors. And also that they conducted energy. They did something different than we're doing. No one really knows. And they're all built along the same lines. Right? Like the nasco lines? Some of them are.

2:40:50I mean, the nasco lines is different. That's in Peru. That's really interesting stuff. Because there's enormous things that are laid out on the sand or on the ground that you can't see unless you're in the sky. It's real weird. And some of them look like landing strips. It's like, what were they doing? I have no idea. Yeah. No one knows. I think most of that stuff that they keep finding like the structures of go backly, Tepay and all these other structures they find around the world, they don't really know where they came from. I think a lot of that is probably evidence of some shit that existed a long time ago.

2:41:23And they got wiped out. There's a real purpose globally too though. There had to be some kind of like mass communication to arrange those structures, right? Well, at least in the people that were in that area. What's interesting to me is the most spectacular ones all came from Africa. And we know human beings all came from Africa. And the most spectacular ever in the history of humanity still exists in Egypt. And they're like, you know, at the very most recent they could be is like 4 ,500 years old, which is bananas, dude. It's bananas. It's like what was going on down then? Also all those cities like the one in Peru that's built in Machu Picchu.

2:42:0212 ,000 feet or whatever. How do you get the fucking stones up there, dude? Oh, fuck did that happen. I'm going down there with my dad in May. The wackiest theory I heard was that that used to be at the base of water and that everything out in front of that at one point in time, many, many, many, many, many thousands of years ago was all water. I don't know if these effectively been substantiated or they might be just a wacky theory. But if it's not, how did they do that? And how did they made them so they're all like kind of jigsaw pieces and they all slide right into each other? Right. And they're fucking enormous.

2:42:35And they're perfectly fit together. Yeah. It's not just like random like filling with the mortal. These guys are artists and engineers and wizards. Like how the fuck did they do that? It's crazy to be a mason and also be able to design some kind of structure that can communicate and or create energy to empower people who live almost two miles high. That should be beyond any kind of fathoming that I can do. Well, what's really weird is that a lot of them have these structures that are designed in mirror of the cosmos too. So they're very aware of, they were very aware of all the stars in the sky and all the constellations when they put that a lot of it in their design.

2:43:14They did it in Mexico, the Aztecs did it, the Mayans did it. It's just imagine. If there's one time I could go back and see what the fuck was life like. I think it would be ancient Egypt. They're like, what were you guys doing? How did the fuck did you do this? Like what was life like? What kind of people were around back then? We have like some bodies, but the bodies a lot. Do you know that Cleopatra, she lived closer to the invention of the iPhone than she did to the construction of the pyramids? No. Yeah. That Cleopatra was not that long ago. Whoa. When was she around? I think a couple thousand years ago.

2:43:54Holy shit. Yeah. What are you looking at? What time is Cleopatra around? Somewhere in the range of 50 to 30 BC. Yeah. So, little less than 2000 years ago. Yeah. And then the pyramids were 2500 years at least before that. Fuck, dude. And maybe more. What about the Mowries? Those dudes who navigated all the way to Hawaii and the fucking kayaks by the stars? Fucking kayaks. I'd go back there. I'd see what those boys were up to. Hardcore shit. You just launch off of your island and you're like, fingers crossed, we're going to find some other shit out there. Fingers crossed you and you crossed. Or are you?

2:44:32Or someone told them there was shit out there. That's what I'm talking about. Well, I bet they went on fishing voyages and I bet they just kept going further and further out. Really? If you do it over time and you figure out how to get back, they probably just, I don't think they did it all on one crazy trip. No, but I think that they had expeditions that they would probably report back from lesser islands, come back and be like, now we have set up over here. Right. Because you probably didn't even know where the islands were. No. How the fuck is crossed? You're going to find land. I imagine. Finding Hawaii.

2:45:01Yeah. I imagine. You're out there in the middle of the ocean. Like, dude, I think we're fucked. Mm -hmm. We're going to die out here. Yeah. I think we're only in the middle. So we don't have any more water. Oh, we have his coconut milk. And then all of a sudden you look and you see water falls and shit. You're like, oh. No one knows why they're so happy. They're stoked. It's like always been a vacation spot. Yeah. And also I understand why they defended it so hard. Fuck yeah. Yeah, it's like your rights be made of the dolls corporation, you know? Well, it's also weird that that's, I mean, I think it deserves all the protection of America.

2:45:32Don't get me wrong. But it's weird that Hawaii is in his own country. Because it's five hours in a plane over the ocean. You're pretty much in Japan. You're in the middle. Yeah. Really? I think it's the most remote place you can travel to. The most remote large city is Honolulu. Yeah. There's a million people on that little. For sure. Yeah. Most of them are Japanese. Really? Oh yeah, dude. That city is like all, like it's bill time like the Japanese way of life. That's why they're so efficient. And the buses in Honolulu are always on time. Oh, sure. Yeah. And that food they have out there, I get it.

2:46:08I get why they're furious that they've been ruined by American capitalism. People with Hawaiian shirts. Yeah. Big fat guys like me out there and just ruining their sunsets with my weird nude body. Just drinking and getting drunk and wanting it. Where does a fucking lieu out, bro? Yeah. Why does the gravy on your hamburgers? They do have gravy in the hamburger. That's right, that's right. Yeah. It's just like guys like me chugging those, having a bunch of bud lights, going down to the water. Hunt and wild pigs. Oh, dude. How about those dudes who hunt? They wear like, they have their dogs wearing boar bests.

2:46:46Yeah. Do you know about that shit? Of course you know what I'm saying. Yeah. I know about that shit. That's wild. Yeah, and in our dogs, they do it in Hawaii too, buddy. Yeah. Yeah, the dogs hold the boar down and they stab it. Who had those dogs having got me? Yeah, that's a rough way to do it, man. Savage by dogs. Yeah, but the thing is, it's like with a lot of those pigs, you can't get to them. Like they're really smart. They smell you and they take off a million miles away. And like the winds and the wise whirl all over the place. It's very difficult for a person to like do anything about invasive species without some help.

2:47:20That's why that's why they use dogs. Yeah. It's because of the terrain for the most part. It's rough, man. The dogs like clamp down on, they use pit bulls and the pit bulls clamp down on the, the boars and hold them in place. They get fucked up by those boars. They get fucked up. Yeah. They get fucked up bad. I mean, I'll show you a boar that I shot in California. I have the scar out here. Because the teeth are fucking bizarre, man. They're these crazy choppers that come out like this far, like almost like halfway up its face and they sharpen each other as they close. No. Yeah. Oh no, that's another animal.

2:47:56That's a Havaleena. Havaleena's. They're teeth sharpen each other as they close. Havaleena's have crazy sharp teeth. So throughout their life, they're just constantly getting more and more honed. Well, it just like keeps it sharp. Like, oh, I don't have it here, but I have one that I shot and I turned into chorizo. And when you run your finger across the blade of its skull, it's like, whoa, like that, the blade that comes out of the bottom teeth, that's what they look like. Whoa. So they close and they actually sharpen each other. They scissor. The bottom ones are fucking crazy sharp. Look at that.

2:48:31That would destroy your leg. That's what it looks like. Yeah. It picks you up with its mouth open. That's what it looks like. We can go to the one that's actually alive. That's big. That's fake. That's a real one. When they do a mount like that, that's not the real teeth or the real tongue. That looks like a little pig bear. I know. It's not even a pig. It's a cousin of a pig. It's called a peckery. Oh, it's a different kind of animal. They're all over like Oklahoma on the side of the road. That's it. You can eat them. They taste good. Though if you prepare them correctly, I made chorizo and eggs the other day with Havaleena meat.

2:49:01I eat that shit easy. They scream. Look how crazy they always look. They're like, oh, they're like, oh, they're like, oh, they're like, oh, they're like, it looks regal. They make me in the water. They make crazy little demon noises. I was a pig hunting once and we were walking down this dirt trail and there was this really high grass to the right of us and inside the high grass. Yeah, that's the noise they make going after that pumpkin. That's the noise. Get along, boys. Bro, I mean, they sound like little demons. Yeah. They're mean. They won't share that pumpkin. But we were walking down this trail and to the right of us is this high grass and inside were wild pigs and we're fighting and dude, it sounded like demon shit.

2:49:48It sounded like Lord of the Ring stuff. It's like, oh, Jesus Christ. It's like mortar. Like if we were hunting demons and that's just what they looked like. They'd be terrifying. Like hearing that noise coming out of the grass was like, what the fuck? They will charge you too. Yeah. That's what's scary about wild pigs. They'll fucking go after you. No pigs turn feral like within two weeks or something, right? I think it's like they start to morph within five or six weeks. Yeah, they grow tusks like real quick within a year. Well, they're face elongates. Yeah. That's like, this was all explained to me by Steve Rinella.

2:50:25He was the guy actually that I was pig hunting with when we heard him in the grass like demons. It was the craziest noise dude. So he said that there's one species. You know, people say wild boars and wild, it's all one species. It's called sous scropha. And they're all interchangeable. They just selectly breed them for different things, but it's one species, which is nuts. So like when a domestic pig gets out, like some of these pigs, they like, you ever heard a hogzilla. Yeah. Hogzilla is a giant wild boar that caught. He said that's most likely that was a domestic pig that somebody fattened up and got real enormous.

2:50:59And then it broke out and it just made its way to the woods. So your classic pink pig became hogzilla. Their hair changes. It gets thicker and darker and they just look totally different. Nature. It's wild dude because it's like, they're like gremlins. Yeah. They like the gremlins and they feed them after midnight. That's what happens to the pigs. They're like, we're cool as long as you feed us and keep us in a fucking bar. Keep us in this like contained, fenced area. Yeah. We're good. That's like the majority of Americans. And then as soon as like, you can't get food anymore, they're going to turn and start eating each other.

2:51:33That's what we're going to be fucking eating each other's kids and shit. Yeah. Yeah. The last of us. I don't think I'll do well in that situation. You might rise to the occasion, buddy. Dude, I'm trying because like, comedians will be the first to get into the wall and they'll use like my back for leather for their chariots. Like my wife's a doctor. So she's going to be very valuable. They're going to want her. Right. I'll just see like an ox. You know, I'll have a yoke in my mouth pulling the carts. Maybe you're a football and wrestling experience. You come in handy. Oh, I would easily, I would fucking eat someone real quick dude.

2:52:05How quick? Easy. As soon as I need to. I'll eat two months. Two months. Four and a half days. Four and a half days. I'm going next door with my Mossberg. Like, what do you got in here? Who's ripe? Hand it over. I have no problem with cannibalism for some reason. Would you want to kill and eat the people that were a problem first? Just like clean up society? Dexter style? No, I'm still lazy. It'd be proximity. It'd be whatever was in my grasp. I bet you wouldn't be lazy. You'd probably lose a lot of weight. Your joints would feel better. Oh, yeah. Because you wouldn't be doing whatever you're doing now.

2:52:35You'd be trying to find food. Whatever I'm doing. So you'd also only be drinking water. Because you're probably all that's available. Uh -huh. Once everybody cleans out all the warehouses of soda. This is going to be a few people that hoard soda. You're going to be a thing. You bust it open for special occasions. You've got to buy all the Dr. Pepper in the basement. I got some vintage surge over here. Yeah, they'll bust out of fucking Pepsi. Oh, he's got Pepsi. He's still got bubbles. Yeah. It'd be a can. This could be like eight glasses. Yeah, this is amazing. It'd be sacrament at that point.

2:53:07Right. That would be what would happen. Pepsi would become our sacred beverage that we would drink on weddings and, you know, super rich. And you were crowning new king, RC Cola. That's how you know you made it in the apocalypse. No, Jones. Like Jones was like, Jones is good. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Real sugar. You have a case. Have you have a case of like some fucking yeah, some artisan soda. Yeah, yeah. It's like we're watching this show yellow jackets being my wife and they're all like upset about having to eat one of their friends. I don't give it to yellow jackets. They eat their friends.

2:53:37There's a bunch of girls who guys like that. That's so easily. Well, yeah. It's it's it's fictional. It's not a talk of entry. But these girls get like trapped in the woods on like a, they're in like a soccer team or whatever and their plane goes down and they have to eat one of the girls after she dies. It's like she's already dead. Yeah, she's already dead. It's not that big a muncher. But here's the issue with eating someone after they died. If they starve, they don't have any nutrients in their body. So eating them, yeah, like they've already leached all the nutrients out to go to the living heart.

2:54:05What's up? We're here in this. Like shipwreck books. Yeah. I've read a lot of books about like shipwrecks. So their meat won't have it's not valuable. It's not valuable if they're starving enough. Yeah, because they've like used all of their nutrients to keep their organs alive. Huh. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like eating styrofoam with that. That makes sense. Because if you eat healthy things, it's probably healthier. That's why wild games are good for you. Right. It makes sense. Like eating elk heart, rules, compared to eating just like a guy who died in the hospital. That guy who got cannibalism. It's perfectly natural.

2:54:37A new scientific history argues. Okay. Whatever. I think that's what they're trying to normalize next after they normalize the Dolly Lama. Where are these lips end? Is that what they're doing? Cannibalism? First you want to adopt or hate my kids. They look at my tongue. They want a minor, what is it? Minor attracted people. They tried that one for a while. Fuck that shit, dude. The fuck out of here. Get out of here. I mean, you're at first. Yeah. 100%. Dude. Yeah. Get them while the nutrients are hot. Yeah. Oh, give me that. Give me that peto minor attracted people. Fuck you, dude. Yeah. I haven't heard of the medicinal cannibal at what?

2:55:16I hadn't heard of the medicinal cannibalism you described in Europe. Starting with the ancient Greek physician, Galen of Pergamon, and continued to the 20th century. That was one thing that really surprised me. What? I told you they used to eat the mommies. Yeah. The mommies stuff. Yeah. They used to have mommie unwrappings, like fancy parties. Oh, yeah. So if you went to Tim Dylan's house, hey, I'm having a mommie unwrapping. Come by. I'm going to wear a Rolex on both wrists. I'm going to have a headband with a Rolex. And he's getting a fucking unwrapped mommie. You need to take a scoop full and put it in your tea.

2:55:52That was like great -gad -speak shit, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You killed an age? Yeah. I love that movie. It was linear on the Caprio. He's the man. I love the fake car. The car that didn't really exist. Like, there was no car that drove that well back then. I never realized that. Those cars were shit. Huh. That movie, The Great Gatsby. Yeah. That car that he has is like a restomod. It's like a modern version of an old car. The thing was the shit. Whoa. I remember watching that thing going. That is so much better than any car that existed back then. What is that thing supposed to be? That thing, when he drove it around, that thing is amazing.

2:56:25Look at that head. The way that thing drove in that movie is literally impossible for one of those things. Those things were dog shit. The Great Gatsby. That's older one. That's white wall times. That's a real one. But let me tell you something. If you drove that, it drives like dog shit. But now look at his. Look at Leonardo Caprio. Look at that thing with the fucking pipes and all that shit. Oh yeah. See all that fucking wild action inside the engine compartment? That's all fake. That didn't exist back then. If it did, I'd have one. I'd be like, I need that fucking thing in my life. That thing is awesome.

2:57:00I love old cars, but I don't see those things drive like dog shit. That's the problem. Like what a car looks like a cinnamonose pistol. It looks pretty dope. That's sick. That looks pretty dope. But it's like the one Leonardo Caprio had. If you watch, see if you can find him driving in the movie. It behaves in a way that no car from that era can. It moves like a modern car. It moves fast and it handles. It's like, no. No, no, no, no. See if you can find some video of him driving him in Toby. That's beautiful looking though, man. There on the way to get some pussy. I'm gonna get totally out of here.

2:57:42See how it's cornering and shit? All that, like not gonna happen. That you're dead. That thing spinning out. It's 90 % of its weight's in the front. It's got zero horsepower. What does that fucking thing have for horsepower? Like go back to one of them old ones and tell them what they have. That old yellow one that looked like it. See what horsepower it had. I'm a guess. I bet it had 100 horsepower. Let's guess. I'll take the under. Yeah, it's gonna be under. It's probably under. Yeah, probably weight. Well. So, that's something I want. Okay. What year was it? In 1928. Well, okay. I'm under now.

2:58:21I'm under 100. Maybe 95. 95 horsepower. It's crazy he wrote that book. At the same time, sure what Anderson was writing, like, Winesburg, Ohio, about people eating dirt. It's like these were two parallel thinking. In like the modern novel at that point. It was nuts, man. Well, that's happening right now, right? Oh, and 80, they're eating dirt all the time. I mean, you have people in some parts of the world that are essentially starving to death and drinking out of puddles. Right. For sure. And then you have succession. Right, yeah. You know, don't spoil it. I'm not spoiling. All right. It's great though.

2:58:53I know. But you know, you have like these fucking spoiled rich kids and their crazy dad. And people get excited about it. 20 horsepower. 20. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. All right. Let me tell you something. 20 horsepower, you're not doing any of that fish tailing. You're not doing any of that driving real fast. Like all that stuff. That thing is slow as fuck. I feel like between the two of us, we have 10 horsepower. At least. Yeah. At least 10 bitch ass horses. Oh, yeah, I do. You have a major pony. No, we probably don't even have a horse power. Maybe. No. No way. We can pull. No, no, no. I'll be pouring horses carry people for days.

2:59:27I've given some long piggyback rides. Bitch ass engine. Whoa. 1923, the Merlin 23. It says 1200 horsepower. It says the V12. No. That's what it says. Maybe that's augment. That's why I was taking it. It was at a bit of time. But is that an engine for a plane? So it's about to say it might not be for a car. Is that for a plane? Probably. That's crazy. That's probably huge. Right? Yeah, arrow engine. Yeah, it's in marine variants, Jamie. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So that's a marine engine? Oh, they probably make like crazy yacht engines too. Thank you. And that's why the first one I found was bringing this up.

3:00:03A $28 million yacht inspired Rolls Royce to have like 500 horsepower. What? Yes, Rolls Royce is $28 million. This thing. What the fuck? It's the Jay Z ball on. Of course he did. I'd buy one of those Jay Z too. You kind of have to have one of your Jay Z. You got a package. Yeah, it's done. You got to have a $2 million Rishard, Muley watch. What are those called? Rishard, Muley. Yeah, that's it. You can have Beyonce pushing around like a 2007 Impala. Exactly. Look at that thing. It's pretty, but it's not $20 million pretty. I get it. It's pretty sick though. The boat tail, as that goes of something that went away.

3:00:47Look at that. Two door removal roof. Removal roof. Oh, the deck lid splits in two. That's pretty sick. It reveals an elaborate picnic camper. What? What? What? Look at this. There's fucking glasses and champagne and shit in the back. It pops open. That's what people call my god. What a piece of shit you'd have to be to get that car. People up to that. Oh my god. Yes, our only car on podcast island. Yeah. But that's half the cost of the fucking island. It's crazy. Yeah, the island's like $40 million. You got that lying around. That's what we're thinking. Yeah. I think that island dude. I think I shouldn't make that podcast on.

3:01:24It would be a hilarious goof. That would be a hilarious task. I think I could record it there only. What's that? Protect our island. Yeah. Yeah, we only do protect our parks there. We're here to protect this island. We're here to be taken over by the bankers. We decided to claim it for shit talking.

3:01:43Well, all right. Sam, I think we did at least three hours, right? Yeah, man. How many of you do? Three. Tell everybody your Instagram and all that jazz, your social media. Yeah. My Instagram is at Sam Talent, T -A -L -L -L -E -N -T. Is that your real name? Yeah. Really? Yeah. What are the odds? Why would I have chosen talent and spelled it wrong? Because you're talented. Right. And it's like it's better that it looks like fake. T -A -L -L -E -N -T. Maybe regular Sam Talent was already taken. And it's me or I, man. Yeah. If you had, like, Sam Talent 69, that's what I would think of. Yeah. 420. I'm down.

3:02:17Breathe the binoval running the lights right here. Yeah. Buy it off my website, by the way. Fuck Amazon. Buy it off samtallant .com and I'll give you a signed copy. Oh, there you go. Yeah, it's shippin' out. There's an audiobook if you're dumb. That's me. Yeah, yeah. I love audiobooks. Well, you're busy, though. You're on the real move. Did you read it? No, I had Bert Kreischer, Tim Dillon. I had 15 different comics read every chapter. The per -one's gonna be tough. But I'll get you it. He did the first one. I got Canadian. Ari Dan Soder. David Bory. Beautiful. Yeah. Alright. And see me on the road.

3:02:53Go see Samtallant .com. And if you hear this, you won't even know that he's here tonight. So because it comes out tomorrow. Yeah, no, it comes out tomorrow. I'm there tomorrow. Yeah. That's me. 412. Well, it's already sold out, so tough shit. Oh, that's good. Yeah. Alright. That's it. Thank you for having me. Thank you. Thank you. I really enjoyed it, brother. Thank you. You're a very funny guy. I know. I really appreciate it. Alright, bye, buddy.

3:03:20Thank you.

From the publisher

Sam Tallent is a stand-up comic, writer, and actor. He is one of the hosts of the "Chubby Behemoth" podcast, and author of the novel "Running the Light." www.samtallent.com
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