#1981 - Pauly Shore

3 May 2023 · 2 h 43 min

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The Joe Rogan Experience - Episode #1981: Pauly Shore

Episode Summary In this episode of *The Joe Rogan Experience*, comedian Pauly Shore joins Joe Rogan for a lively discussion about various topics including comedy, life experiences, mental health, the entertainment industry, and the evolution of technology. The conversation dives deep into the world of stand-up comedy, the shifts in the industry, his personal journey, and thoughts on contemporary issues.

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Key Discussions

Pauly Shore's Comedy Journey

  • Comfort on Stage: Shore discusses the importance of feeling comfortable and loose while performing, citing his recent experiences at comedy clubs.
  • The Role of Community: He emphasizes the significance of being part of a vibrant comedy community, particularly in Austin, Texas, where he has moved.

The Comedy Scene Today

  • Change in Venues: Rogan and Shore talk about the transition from traditional comedy clubs to new venues like *The Mothership*, highlighting the opportunities for comedians to perform and grow.
  • The Pressures of Comedy: Shore reflects on the pressures associated with expectations from the comedy community and the legacy of his mother, Mitzi Shore, who founded *The Comedy Store*.

Personal Growth and Mental Health

  • Therapy and Healing: Shore shares his experiences with group therapy and how it has helped him deal with personal trauma, including the loss of family members.
  • Perspective on Life: He emphasizes looking towards a joyful future and the importance of personal happiness amidst personal and professional challenges.

Technology and Society

  • Impact of Social Media: The duo discusses the effects of social media on society, particularly how it influences self-perception and relationships.
  • Future of Technology: Shore and Rogan contemplate the future of technology and what it might mean for human interaction and entertainment.

The State of the World

  • Political Discourse: They touch on the current political climate, including thoughts on international relations, war, and the potential for conflict.
  • Mental Health and Society: Shore discusses the importance of mental health awareness and how societal pressures can lead to challenges, especially for public figures.

Entertainment Industry Insights

  • The Evolution of Media: Conversations about how comedy, movies, and television have changed over the years, particularly with the rise of digital media and platforms like YouTube.
  • Pauly Shore's Latest Projects: Shore promotes his new projects, including his YouTube channel and upcoming comedy shows.

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Key Takeaways

  • Pauly Shore is proud of the new wave of comedians emerging in Austin and the opportunities they have to grow and perform.
  • Comedy has evolved with the advent of technology and social media, changing how comedians connect with audiences.
  • The importance of mental health and personal growth is highlighted, emphasizing that personal experiences shape artistic expression.
  • The current political and social climate creates challenges not just for comedians but for society as a whole.

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Closing Thoughts The episode wraps up with Shore emphasizing the joy he finds in performing and connecting with audiences. Rogan and Shore share a mutual appreciation for the art of comedy and the importance of laughter in today's world, leaving listeners with a sense of hope and reflection.

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Links and Further Reading

  • [Pauly Shore Official Website](http://www.paulyshore.com)
  • [Joe Rogan Experience Podcast](http://www.joerogan.com)
  • [Mental Health Resources](https://www.nami.org/Home)

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0:02I The Joe Rogan experience

0:15Hedges twice oh my god, okay, you can adjust it. I feel like I'm going on up to the mothership with these things Do you fucking kill with the mothership that was the funniest I've ever seen you were so loose and so silly It was fun to see man. It was first of all you could tell you were you've been doing stand -up. You look super comfortable But you were you were so loose. Mm -hmm It's you know, it's stand -up as you know as a rhythm You know and you just kind of figure it out when you're on stage You never know what the fuck's gonna happen. Yeah, yeah, you just yeah that night was just You know, David was nice enough to let me on his show and After I you know put my finger under his boobs wet.

0:58I went like this I like to do that a lot and then he's got sweaty brows and I did like that and it got me excited Yeah, yeah, and then I and then I went and then I saw Montgomery and I he had his flip his hair over and then I punched Hans in the stomach and then I got on stage. It was all happening. Perfect. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so no It's you know what you set up there. It's you know, it's in my veins It's really in my veins like just the second I walked in that room. I Just felt this focus and that's what I said to you. I just really feel like there's a focus there Well, that club was a rock and roll club I mean that you see the picture that's In the tunnel when you walk onto the stage.

1:42Yeah, we see the big picture Steve Ray Vaughn That's yeah performing on that stage in 1983. Yeah, that's the old Alamo draft house It was only the Alamo draft house from the two I think like 2007 on Okay, before that it had been a bunch of things. It was a pool hall at one point in time It was a nudie movie theater at one point time. It was a punk rock club like all the posters that you see that are in the green room That are in those are all posters of people performing at the ritz. It's all like That was the ritz before the before the Alamo. Yes. Oh, it's been the ritz since 1927 It has to stay the ritz no matter what it is that sign the ritz always exists because it's a historical landmark right Yeah, I know well, it's just what you gutted it out though, and you just I mean how much I mean you loud to say how much money you spent on it?

2:32Yeah, well, I'm allowed to oh you don't say okay. Well, you spent he spent a lot you spent a lot of money on it Yeah, yeah, those two stages weren't that to pay construction people. Yeah, no, I I get it But they did a great job. It was they fucking nailed it. Were there two stages before? Yes There was two they had converted it when they converted it to the movie theater I think that's when they turned it into two rooms, huh? Yeah, I don't know how they did it But we have the same architect fortunately, so he knew exactly all the bones the beams and all that stuff We're the electrical. Yeah, so you know, there's this thing that's happening, you know, and obviously I've been in it my whole life You know since I was four yeah, and you know, and it's I'm you know First of all, I'm so proud of you.

3:19Yeah, I have I see you sometimes and I we give each other hugs I said I love you and but I don't get to say how proud I am of you. I've seen you my whole you know for years and and You know on behalf of my mom too You know because I Know how much you love her and I know how much she means to you and I know how far you've come I know how far you've come because I remember when you first stepped at the store And I remember seeing you in Boston and I remember because we're the same age and we came up at the same time Yeah, and I'm so proud of you dude and when I saw you on that when I saw you on that stage at MGM When you worked with Chappelle, I was like this guy's fucking funny, you know like really funny, dude And I'm not just saying that because you know, you become this, you know, this massive Business and you're just this I'm saying that from comic to comic.

4:17I'm really proud of you Thank you very much and I appreciate it. Yeah, and You're funny, dude, you know, well now for real because I've seen it all. I've seen them. I've seen the best You know, I see I see you on stage. I see Kenison. You know, I've seen Kenison. I've seen prior I've seen Eddie. I've seen all these guys at their best and then when I saw you at MGM I'm like fuck dude. You're really like in the pocket. Thank you. You're not pushing it, you know what I mean and it's great I've been doing a lot of sets and moving out to here It kind of changed everything because I first of all I realized how important the store was Like I knew I was gonna live out here, but That Having a community and having a place where you get to see people do sets all the time and you work with killers Like all the time on the road The thing is you don't really work with other people that much you work with the two people that you bring with you or one person They bring with you and you're not like in the mix With all the killers and I think that that's very critical to what we do.

5:18Well, that's what you've done out here Yeah, that was that was the thing to do it was like the thing to do is like there was so any comics that had decided to move here And a lot of them knew that I I tried to do it at another place and didn't work out as that was like a big delay That that took like an extra year. Yeah, took a long -ass time Yeah, I mean Hans Montgomery David Lucas these these you know working with Tony and Just seeing these guys grow and now they're fucking headlining shows. Yeah, I mean, it's fucking Derrick Poston Derrick in the salon mod those guys are killing. Yeah, there's so much tighter and they're doing so many sets Because we're doing two shows a night in both rooms So there's two shows in each room Yeah, so they they're getting all the stage time there's open mic nights two nights a week just like the store Yeah, I talked to Lucas at the store who you know works the bar and I'm like dude You got to just move out to Austin because this is happening out here.

6:15Lucas Earl. Yeah, he's a funny dude Yeah, he's very funny and he's a nice guy and he cares and and and you know like you just said your guys Are becoming monsters on stage and a lot of it has to do with you know the platform that you gave them You know, and I love the fact that you um you put the phones in the purses You know they put the phones in the Underbed. Yes fucking. I think every comedy club should do that. That is a dare a definite sense of freedom Yeah, there's that too And it also keeps people from being distracted like people are just so addicted to their fucking phones You know it makes the show better.

6:51I want to put my I wanted to put this in a yonder here and it's already it's off I still want to this one a fucking throw it one of the things I've learned from doing this podcast Is that it's really the only time During the day where I get to sit for a few hours and not look at my phone. Yeah, I'm not always just checking my email Checking my text message responding to text message. I have a respond to you trying to keep up with email. Yeah Yeah, I just yeah, overwhelming. Yeah, I just did a five -day pretty intense group therapy that I've been involved with since I was 19 years old and deals with a lot of Trauma different things like that and I'm actually a staff I kind of help people out with the stuff they they go through and in in return when you help people out you get help too Like for instance for me You know, I've been doing it since I was 19 And it's a five -day program and it just helped me deal with the trauma, you know my parents my parents passing and You know just different things that have happened personally in my life Because you know, I know when I was on here last time I was talking about the career and this and that and all these different things and You know a lot of those things that you know happen to us as people and people listening aren't who we are It's kind of it's it's circumstances things that have happened to us that we become angry or become sad or we become depressed But it's not who we are because who we are are are we start off with as innocent babies You know, we go into the world and all these fucked up things Kind of happened to us and you know the the the stuff with my family and the store and my mom You know, I'm not just a whatever guy.

8:31I'm not Donald Trump You know, I'm even no probably underneath it. He's probably fucked up, but I don't have you know, but as far as being true Yeah, I have this emotion. I got that from my mom and my dad um and um and it's hard. You know what I mean? It's hard um, but So I'm I feel pretty good and um and it's it's difficult, but you know I want to look I want to look into the future my next 30 years And I just want to try to be joyful and you know and and my thing is half full You know a lot of us in life. We always look at other people and we're always like going You know, oh like I can look at Adam Sandler.

9:11I can look at all these guys that are just you know or I can you know Look at the fact of what I have. Yeah, you know and and it's and and I'm not the only one. I think everyone should You know think about that because especially like you said with social media Everyone compares himself how many people are watching This episode is brought to you by Oracle AI is coming to your industry If it isn't already here, but AI needs lots of speed and computing power So how do you compete without cost spiraling? Upgrade to Oracle Cloud Infrastructure or OCI OCI is the blazing fast and secure platform for your infrastructure database Application development and AI workloads right now Oracle is offering to cut your current cloud bill in half If you move to OCI for new US customers with minimum financial commitment Offer ends March 31st See if your company qualifies at Oracle .com slash Rogan This episode is brought to you by Squarespace.

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11:30Imagine him trying to go to the park All the little kids probably freak out. Where's the toys bitch? What did you do with the extra toys? But what about what about you? I mean you're you're you've really like I mean you've I mean You know, I've seen it everyone is seeing it. You've just really I mean you've how do people how do people get to you? It's difficult But you know what I'm saying? How do like for instance Like you don't have a book or on this show Why do but I don't like it I choose yeah, you're the book. Yeah, but it's not like someone like picks the lineup Yeah, and then I go over it with them.

12:07No, so like for instance like Nicholas Cage is my next star neighbor in Las Vegas Like he's a friend. I've known him for many years like how would he get to you if he would be a nice love to have him on I love that guy. Yeah, he's awesome I saw a video they did about his house in Vegas. Oh, yeah, just 60 minutes, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah He's awesome. I love that guy. I met him once a long time ago at a boxing gym. Yeah, he was there with his son His son was taking lessons at this boxing gym that I used to work out in Hollywood. Yeah, super nice guy So it's but it was a weird one, you know, it was like whoa, that's Nicholas Cage Just hanging out in the boxing gym.

12:42What's so so how do people like that get to you to get out of this show just like this like this like this He texts you you text me. Hey, what's up? Right, right? I'd be nice to meet you. He would be great on you Yeah, yeah, he'd be awesome. He's a fun dude. He's fucking. I mean the with that Nicholas Cage movie What was it? What was it? Where's the act? I don't want to fuck the title, but him and Pedro Pascal. Oh my god. That movie's good Yeah, he's a terrible weight of massive talent. Yeah, yeah, so good because I see because Mark Merin I see at the store all the time and And he's always like, you know, you're nicknick's Nicholas Cage your next -door neighbor You know, I wanted to hit the podcast and I'm like and I text Nick I'm like, yo, my friend Mark Merin wants to be on your pot on the podcast and he didn't text me back Yeah So I mean, I'm not to diss Mark Merin.

13:30I don't I don't know. Maybe he was just too busy Maybe he's gonna retreat the way a retreat. Maybe put his phone down for a week. Yeah, he put it one of those things Yeah, could be so um, yeah, so I think he would be great on this I would definitely know any people that I think that that you would like all yeah, definitely do Yeah, so um, yeah, it's a it's a weird thing to you know have like this sort of a show Yeah, but I got to keep doing it the way I've always done it. This is the way I've always done it This is when you started in the basement with red band, right? But we're in a uh, we were starting your couch, right on my couch And then we moved to uh, I had a spare bedroom that I'd converted into an office So then we converted my office into the podcast studio.

14:13Yeah, so it's half my office half It was the podcast studio. It was like so rudimentary. So dude It was so like what Wayne and Garth, you know, right? Just like in the basement. It was you know, when it was it was the response to I always wanted. I love the hang of being on those morning talk shows But I knew that nobody would ever give me one Hmm, and I probably wasn't good at it anyway like podcasting was like anything else I think I think you get better at it the more you do it if you go back and listen to my early ones. That's terrible Just you get better at it. And I think that What we missed was like the opian Anthony hang You do the opening Anthony show was a bunch of comics just sitting around talking shit about things.

14:52It was so fun So do you ever prepare for your for your interviews? Oh, yeah, for sure. Oh really? Depending on who they are Right, so did you prepare for this? No, no, you're my friends. It's like fun. I don't have to prepare for you This is gonna fun. I have to prepare for things like oh like scientists. Yeah, like if someone's coming on to discuss Something really crazy like I yeah, I really have to pay attention to what the questions are that I can ask Like we had a Michio Kaku was on yesterday. Oh Kaku, you know, I heard about him. He's the scientist. Yeah, so he's a quantum physicist and he was on discussing quantum computing and It's so I came off of my laptop.

15:32It's so above my head. Yeah, yeah, it's so of my head. It's so hard to he's like He's he's so smart. It's like he's like hanging out with toddlers, you know, like what he's when he was 17 years old He made a particle collider in his garage. Mm -hmm. I don't know the particle collider is it's miles and miles of copper tubing And it sends something through it and he photographed Anti -matter in his garage with this device. Mm -hmm. When he was 17 Wow, that's a different kind of human, you know 17 you were hanging out the store 17 I was in Newton, Massachusetts like being a moron Like this guy was making a particle collider.

16:12It is basement or it is garage It's crazy. There's people that are just there's so much smarter than you or in different ways, right? Like I don't think you probably wouldn't be a great comic But there's so there's so so you had to do a little research for yeah, me what's it called? Michio Kaku Michio Kaku Michio Kaku, but some even more than that like it depends on you know, whatever the subject is like Some some people I want to read their book first and have them on So I have questions. Yeah, and then as far as um as far as living out here now being in Austin Austin is very I don't want to use the word liberal But there's a lot of hipsters and people skinny jeans and that stuff is it weird being because I don't want to say you're red or you're not red Because I don't fucking know most people think you're red.

17:00Yeah, is it like you're you're you wait You're red living in a blue city in a red state That is uh, this is a blue city, but I'm not really red. That's what I don't just know. No, no I've never voted Republican in my life I yeah, I think that the both systems suck and I think um that What what I'm pushing back against is the crazy ideologies It has nothing to do with universal basic income. It has nothing to do with welfare It has nothing to do with uh Funding community programs and cleaning up cities like I'm all for all that stuff I'm even for higher taxes if I believe the government was competent with your money And it's not I'm not yeah, like higher if it's higher taxes and it proves that we have less crime and the world is a safer place That would be great But that doesn't seem like they know how to do that and it does it what it seems like when you give a lot of money to the government They create a lot of government jobs and those government jobs make those people a lot of money We looked into the the homeless just uh situation in L .A And it's my friend Coleon noir told me about this because he's a lawyer and he went to San Francisco When he was in San Francisco, he was talking to someone It's like why haven't they fixed the homeless thing?

18:13He's like a funding issue and the guy's like no stop is it they make so much money the people that are In charge of dealing with the homeless situation some of them are making more than $200 ,000 a year Like 240 ,000 dollars a year and the homeless thing just keeps getting worse So what do you what do you think it is? It's a your your opinion. It's mental health. It's it's people that are addicted to drugs People there's a lot of soldiers sad unfortunately. There's a lot of vets They came back and their experiences were very traumatic for them and they never recovered And they maybe they got on drugs as well There's a lot of people that meant they need good therapy You know, it all started doing during the Reagan administration.

18:50I believe check if this is true I think during the Reagan administration They changed What like they can do in terms of like mental health institutes They decided to like let people out instead of like there's certain people that just they have to be cared for You know, they're so compromised that in a A good just society You would care for those people and there would be a dedicated place just like this dedicated piece place for people Have bad knees you go in the get surgery You know, they don't go fucking walk it off pussy hobble around. No, they they have a place that's dedicated No, it's similar to a a Right, I mean a a is pretty much a place You know for we all have friends that are in a a and they go there and they have was it the 10 step rules 12 or 12 steps How what not to do when you physically walk in a bar?

19:43So here it is 1981 president Ronald Reagan hood made major efforts during his governorship Governorship to reduce funding and enlistment for California mental institutions Pushed a political effort through the u .s. Congress to repeal most of mhsa The mhsa was considered landmark legislation in mental health care policy So I think what happened was when that mhsa act got passed in 1980 what what happened was they just started letting people out in the streets When I was a boy, I remember a market increase in homeless people in Boston When this happened and I remember people talking about it And they're like, yeah, they're just letting them on the street now Like it's not that's not caring for someone.

20:31That's not being kind. That's insane And you would see people just having screaming matches with themselves like they're clearly Mentally ill and clearly not on medication. Yeah, just screaming got people that aren't there and fighting demons On the streets so if you were president In a serious series because obviously you could probably run and probably win if you want to I know you don't want to I'm not running for any I know But I'm just saying if you decided and you and you're and you in one of your um one of your Arms was mental health and that was what would you do if you were talking to say Tony Tony Hinchcliffe was in charge of the mental health What would you tell him to do that's the last person I put in charge you'd have them all killed So Tony Hinchcliffe would tell him hey guys keep backing up.

21:16We're gonna take a picture. I mean the edge of a fucking cliff Tony Hinchcliffe's ruthless. So what would you what would you say to me? But if somebody was president if they were gonna fix this what they would do is Reinstitute something like that Change change what that was and go back not just to the old way, but even better Go back to a way where if you have someone who's mentally compromised you know that they can be cared for and we would be willing to pay for that in taxes I'm sure we would I'm sure we would if if they knocked homelessness down to like a tiny tiny fraction of what it is now And our tax dollars paid for mental health institution institutes Who knows if that wasn't like more profitable for the overall society?

22:01It probably would be it would probably be more profitable if there was less break -ins less crime Less people having overdoses in the streets, you know less assaults Less I mean who knows what horrific things go on in those encampments They basically there's like these chaos shanty towns in the middle of one of the biggest cities in the greatest country in the world and Everyone's just tolerating it But meanwhile if you jaywalk on sunset, they'll fucking arrest you like it or at least they used to so back to the AA Situations because my father say I mean say I'm a short recipes. He was an alcoholic So he had to drink so it wasn't like one drink and then but he had to keep going So that's what he did is he he had to stop If you can go to AA so do you think there's something like that for For people for mental health besides AA with all the because there's some people that are addicted to Pills or you know what I think because if anything we should open up all possible options And make them legal and that would include psychedelic therapies because I know personally many people who have done I began I began is not a fun one apparently.

23:12I haven't experienced it myself But it's a 24 hour experience that just rips you down to the core of your being and explains to you in some strange way All the different moments in your life that have shaped you and all the different things that have become prompt people quit cigarettes Like that after they do they quit heroin like that. It also does something strange to remap the mind Can you put up was it ibiscent what is it ibogaine? Can you put that up so we can just stare at it for a sec? Ibogaine ibogaine yeah, and it comes from the aboga tree I think it's it is a part of the is it part of the ayahuasca thing?

23:50No, it's different It's a different different type of psychedelic and you think if you take that or there's been studies If you take that then you can get rid of yes these things. Yeah many many many people have gone and sought ibogaine therapy to get rid of pills So then if you are president which you're not but you would tell your your your your your guide to say go get some ibogaine and give it What I would say to anybody who the people in jail or something what I would say to anybody who was gonna be president Like maybe a Tulsi Gabbard That would be something to do if we could institute ibogaine institute We had ibogaine centers in this country where people could go and have these experiences I think we could create better people we'd have less people that are addicted to pills I mean is it going to be a one -size -fits -all forever?

24:35No, nothing is not therapy isn't Psychedelics aren't you know exercises and there's not a one -size -fits -all for anybody to fix your life But if there's anything that has been shown to be very effective I think we should explore that and one of those things is illegal That doesn't make any fucking sense and one of those things that is illegal is ibogaine My mom when she started to get sick with Parkinson's We took her to to Was at the Bahamas and she got a fetal cells injected in her Yeah, and that was something that she was um You know she was a very she believed very strongly that you know putting baked she was like put some baby cells in me You know puts put some feet dude.

25:20It was fucking insane It was like me and Bob Wheeler the comedy store accountant over there We flew down to the Bahamas because you couldn't do it here. Get the baby tissue. I don't know dude It was we but we I remember it like it was yesterday So we drove and you know the the doctor my mom paid like 20 grand or 10 or 15 whatever it was right and they you know Within that you the package deal is is the the the flight the hotel and then the baby fetuses So um we went down there and um in a car picked us up it had a sign midsy sure and uh and we went in there We went and then we drove over the next morning and we put her in a room with the doctor and they injected her with fetal cells But I personally because she had Parkinson's for a while I personally think it actually helped her You know, I think it prolonged you know because if you put the the the um The baby cells in there.

26:14They're obviously baby cells Why is it so funny? It's just so fucked up to think of but that uh she did it a couple times There has been shown with stem cells just all kinds of stem cells that um put the baby in me What are you doing put it stop fucking around put it in me let's go You know name me. That's like your mom. It's so funny. Oh, your mom was the best yeah I tell everybody that your mom was the number one. She was so funny Number one most important person in comedy that wasn't a comedian. Yeah, your mom 100 % yeah Choose number one. So so sorry. Yeah, everything lined up. Yeah I they don't use baby cells anymore, but the baby thing what what maybe they do What are you talking about?

27:00They're great. They really prolonged my life that That is the reason why it took so long for stem cells to get um Use and and funding and in in America because the people especially people in the right Thought that stem cells had to be like aborted fetuses like we can everyone can you mean they're not yeah What's going on? So I remember when the really religious right wing people were talking about that I was like oh no like this is crazy. They're they're killing babies for stem cells And then when I looked into it, I was like oh no, no, so there's a bunch of different you get stem cells from Bone marrow you get stem cells from adipose tissue from I need some from my penis.

27:39Whoa. Whoa. Hey Imagine if they figured out a way to make your dick better. That's what I'm saying. They'd be more harder all the time It would just be like girls with giant tits. Right. It would be like with the guys would just completely overdo it It is useless dick. I mean I take pictures of guys with useless dicks just

28:01You'd nothing I mean, I think there's I think there should be you know should be something like that I mean they what do they take the uh they take the fat off your butt and they put it in into your dick Yeah, and you're dick and they make it a I don't think you should let them do that. Right. I did you know what I did have I did have a bladder surgery. Yeah, yeah, I did what happened your bladder. I was just peeing a lot Was it leaky or something? No, it wasn't leaky. What happened was I would go pee at night and then my bladder wouldn't It wouldn't empty So I'd go pee and then I lied back down.

28:37I'm like fuck. I still have more pee and I do that four or five times in the middle of the night and then I finally went um, I went and got a I went to my doctor and he sent me up with a urologist in At cedars and he was this gay dude and imagine that a gay urologist and this isn't a joke. This is real And um, he's like, let me see your dick. I'm like, dude. That's not fucking cool. Come on. Let me see it the fuck And so I showed him my dick. He's like, oh I'm like, what the fuck? No, so so I did a uh a procedure called resume So if you don't believe me, uh, it's you can won't I not believe well, I'm just saying because it doesn't sound That's so amazing.

29:17It doesn't But it's a resume. I said I said I go, what does this do? He goes well once you do the procedure Then you resume how he used to pee before he had a pee problem So uh, you wake up in them uh, they steam your this episode is brought to you by visible Is your wireless full of stuff you didn't sign up for don't need or don't understand Visible gives you everything you want from wireless and nothing you don't no confusing plans no hidden fees No nonsense with visible you just get unlimited everything unlimited data talk text and hotspot All powered by Verizon's 5G network plus they're an all digital wireless service So you can easily switch within a matter of minutes from your phone either in their app or online ready to switch Visible has an offer for you the Joe Rogan experience listeners joined by March 24th and new members can get the visible plus plan For just $30 per month for 25 months That's visible's best plan with premium data for $15 off each month for 25 months get visible's Fastest network now with even more savings switch at visible dot com slash rogan with the promo code rogan For this offer from visible Didn't think wireless could be so transparent.

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32:13Yeah, they steam it right there Resume procedure uses sterile water vapor steam that is injected into the enlarged portions of the prostate The steam causes the prostate cells that are responsible for the enlargement to die Which then leads to shrinkage of the prostate which in turn creates a more open urinary pathway. Oh, that's interesting And it was it it was a pretty easy procedure science. It was a pretty easy fix polish dick in science Yeah, don't do it. Yeah, don't see someone's dick. It's deemed so you wake up in the more or you wake up after the procedure It's only like a 15 -minute procedure you wake up and I had a catheter in my dick Yeah, and then I piss back right here connected to it So so I said how long do I have to wear this he goes he goes for a week I'm like dude.

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33:04That's fucked up. So for a week, bro I'm like saying hi five to my friend. I might even see you with the feedback. I had a piss back Yeah, do you like tape it to your body? Like no you do a velcro to your to your leg right here And and so I had it for a whole weekend. It was the best week of my life Because I'd be going I'd be going to dinner with friends. She's be pissing and fucking talking at the same time And they're like what's so whether you do? I'm like don't worry. Go on. It's a great story. This fantastic And then I drove from I remember driving from lost No, I'm from LA to Las Vegas and it's a four -hour drive.

33:39I didn't have to stop once But when I got to Vegas I had a huge like piss tumor connected to my Connected to my leg because you just keep peeing and then and then at one point in time does we become disgusting? Like you chart around I fucking yeah after a week and it's like a red Yeah, after we what's the longest you go on without changing it for real? Oh No, you never changing. I mean dump it out. Oh, you just every couple hours you dump it up a lot Yeah, but then you never like walked around like four or five hours with a bag of pistols But uh I was saying that what you thought he was saying yeah, we got confused So you have to change the actual physical bag itself Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you had to change post -mails.

34:22Yeah, but it was it worked good So if there's any of your listeners that pee a lot in the middle of the night check out resume. Did you eat any asparagus? Oh, do you see my pee with green or something? No, no, no because if asparagus makes your pee smell Oh, I was wondering like could you smell it through the bag? That would be interesting Because of like we all went to dinner. I'm like Paul. You have some asparagus If I knew the Get the piss back on and then if I just smell asparagus pee, I'm like you mother fucker. Just sitting there peeing No, I think would you be upset? You know what that is when you smell it I think I'll probably let everybody know how it's peeing if that was going on like hey guys.

35:00I'm about to pee Just let you know. I don't have to go anywhere. Yeah, it was great. It's tough to sell Like hey, but that's actually science is shown that it's actually the best way to pee because you just pee whenever you want and holding it It's actually very bad for you really bad. So we're just gonna give this everyone just start walking around with the piss backs Yeah, they need one for shit. I think that you think You know me no well, but uh the dumbest thing we do for shit is just mirror it with toilet paper Like once I got one of them toilets at squirt's water at your butt. Oh wow. You never had one No, I've seen it, but I never had one Paul.

35:35Yeah, you gotta get one of those. There's a whole bunch of them That's a bidet right? Yeah, well, it's not a bidet because it's a it's like a toilet. It's a toilet seat Oh, oh, yeah, you have one in the other room. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you guys show me around your place. Go try it out You guys show them around your place to see you got the sauna and you got the cold plunge in the back. Uh -huh. Yeah, that's Have you done that? I've done it. Yeah, I've been sawing I mean that's every time I see you talk about the cold plunge in the sauna I'm like, yeah, that's my guy. That's what I do Yeah, I usually go to the Russian bathhouse in New York and LA and then also the Korean spa.

36:12I love already loves that Russian bathhouse in New York So he's going always going on those yeah, that's the it's the best so good for your body. Yeah Really is. Yeah, it's great. Um, yeah Wait, you living in Vegas still? Um, no, I gotta I kept a place there, but I moved back to LA. Oh, yeah, so how's it? It's cool. It's all right. Yeah, it's good. Yeah, everything's awesome. It's uh You know, I don't want to tell you where my house is. There's people I think But uh, no, I'm very happy there. Um, that's where I was born and raised. Yeah, so it's like, you know, I feel good there But I like to leave I like it here dude.

36:47It's fun. I fucking love it here. This is really cool here And what you're doing is is I mean, it's great. Thank you. Yeah. Well, that was the whole I mean it worked out better than I thought it could But that was kind of the idea and I think it was kind of cool that I mean not kind of cool But I think just obviously everything is up to this guy upstairs But I think the two -year kind of building up to it Got your guys better. Got everyone better working at the Vulcan and and working around town And you know, it was this sure it was this pimple that everyone was developing and developing and then finally Boom the mother ship came and then boom everyone's like boom and now it's just blah blah blah blah And it's this thing yeah Well, and also that everybody had kind of shared my sentiments about getting out like Thompson Girl Was one of the first Tony Henscliffe was one of the first.

37:35I think Tony came out first. Ron White was actually already here before the pandemic And it was also one of the reasons why I loved it because he was always telling me he's like it's the best fucking city You ain't got to deal with all the bullshit you deal with in Hollywood You know, he would always talk so great about this town Well, I think what you're doing for comedy is great. I mean you're creating uh This emerald city for New York and LA and in people to come out here and and you got all these stages And it's great and then also red bands started a club too. Yeah, right down the street.

38:05That's cool. Yeah Well, is this club that already exists and he he bought into it as an investor and um, they're um, they have a really nice room. That's like I think it's like 500 seats right down the street Yeah, and I think it's great because I remember coming back I'm coming to Austin in the 90s when I was touring and and everyone remembers Austin six street music Yeah, Austin six street music And now it's slowly starting to be comedy is the first thing and the music is the second thing and it's great You know, I think well that one little spot you have the Creek in the cave It's on seventh and then you have the Vulcan which is on six then we're on six And then next to the mothership is the Sunset strip club.

38:44They're all in the same era So guys are walking from club to club and doing sets in town Yeah, and you guys are doing four or five sets of nights sometimes especially when they're doing two shows in certain places So it's uh, and then there's other rooms outside It's like people are starting their own rooms which always happens You know like open micers. It's one of the things you open micers have always done like they'll get a Wednesday at some place And and they start you know having people come in they work a deal with the door like really sort of You know, well the business minded open micers have done that forever.

39:19No, it's great. No, it's great And and you you know you're the leader Well, I just did it because I could you know It was one of those things just like if someone could they should and you can so why aren't you okay? Well, you should You know, I had like a talk with myself about it like god damn you really want to take on this because I would always tell people Be nice to comedy club owners because you don't want to be one You don't want to be some person Hoping that this guy shows up and he wasn't doing coke last night and he Is it on a two -day bender? It misses flight or he didn't sleep in or he didn't you know, there's so many factors dealing with your livelihood if you're a club owner and then you know you have People get too drunk.

40:03They're crazy. They do this. They that they wreck their hotel room And you know you're constantly like putting out fires like if you can make a harmonious relationship with a Do it try to be as nice to them as possible. You work together You don't want to be them. You don't want to open a comic club. It's too much work But now I want to do it. Yeah, so what's it like being an owner? You're a hundred percent owner. Yeah, so what's it like? Well, it's easy because the people that are running integrate, you know, if it wasn't for Curtis and Adam and Eric and Jody and all the people that and carry the people that we knew from the store If it wasn't for them, they wouldn't be able to work like this.

40:41Yeah, they have such a long experience in running clubs That helps a lot and then for big big facts for comics that are listening that want to get in in at your club. What's the process? Is it yeah? I'm not gonna like put that out there The best way to go to do is go to open mic nights if you're you're just starting out or you know Adam Egate is the talent coordinator if you're an established comedian reach out to him But he's been reaching out to everybody anyway It's like it's it's nice. It's been it's been very smooth from the the opening Jump and then mostly the small room is the development told room not always no chappelle did that room the he broke it in the first night It's a fun room to do sets because it's very intimate because it's 120 seats.

41:23Yeah, no, I love that room That was a great room. Yeah, that's tonight tonight. I'm doing your other room And I haven't I did kill Tony last night and that was great So tonight's the first night that I'm gonna do a spot you'll love it your bigger room. Yeah, you love it The sounds amazing. It's just it's all it just we really spent a lot of time making sure that everything was dialed in and also I brought in Louis CK who helped a lot Louis CK had me change a couple things about the small room had me made this make the stage smaller and Lower the ceiling even more the ceiling was already low. It's like can you lower it more?

41:55I was like I think we can can we lower it more and then there was like all these discussions So it actually delayed the opening by a few weeks from his suggestions, but they were all awesome They were all perfect suggestions and then everybody else suggested things to Tony had some suggestions David Lucas had some suggestions like you comics have been coming to visit this for the last year and a half We've been talking wouldn't do you think we should do this? It's like one of those things So I get everybody together and I'm like, okay Should we have screens where you could watch the comics in the green room?

42:25Yeah Okay, what about like we have a clock over the screen like everybody has like a different idea Okay, what about if we had stars? I think it might have been Brian Simpson to have that idea We have you know because the star like the light in the OR We have a blue light in a green light. So we have the blue one for the big room and a green one for the little room And they go off when it goes off in that room they go off also inside the green room So you could be sitting there and go always got the light and you see it and you just walk right on stage And then when the the customer walks in explain the I know we've seen the video, but they walk in they go upstairs The the the the the the the bigger room is on The second floor and then the smaller room is on the third floor Um Is that yes, yeah, yeah, it's yeah, yeah, and then it's horrible I don't even think of it as having that many floors But I guess it does and then also I know when I was backstage with you when we were kicking it you looked at your Curtains and you said oh, we got to change the curtain in the big room.

43:24So it looks like the smaller curtain Yeah, the smaller room curtains a better curtain. Yeah, yeah, so weird. We just thinking about those things But yeah, so who's so should we tell Curtis to do that? Oh, you already did it. Yeah, it should be this week It should be put holy shit. Yeah, so it's gonna match. Yeah, it'll be better. I was gonna I was gonna ask you I've been doing a um for the last couple years. I've been doing a one -man show about my childhood Yeah, and it is a kind of like my version of undisputed truth Which is the Mike Tyson play? Oh nice. So it's called stick with the dancing So it's called stick with the dancing because that's what mom said to me after she saw me perform for the first time That's hilarious So because I perform That's why I wanted to talk to you.

44:04Do you have screens on screens? Yeah, we have on the bigger room. Yes Yeah, so if I perform there's things Yeah, we have a projector in the ceiling and it comes down. Oh, great. Yeah, I want to do that It'll take a little extra coordination with whoever's doing it so they know what the files are and You can go over them with them, but yeah, yeah, it's enough. Yeah, it's a pretty cool. It's a pretty cool show And I can't wait to see it. Yeah, it's fun. Dude, you're you got babysitted by Sam Tennyson I mean, it's one of the funniest fucking stories of all time like what a crazy thing your mom did It was she left you as a little child is one of the most maniacal comedians.

44:39It's ever existed Well, it wasn't it wasn't Exactly like that. It was more it was more like Sam was I was 14 years old I was a shorter to cook at the communist room westwood My mom would put Sam on last because all he would do is scream And then he would literally you know, there'd be six people left in the room in westwood and he'd throw the stools He'd throw the his stool at the audience members. They'd scamper off He'd smoke weed in the parking lot and then he would um, you know, I'd feed him hamburgers So I kind of just I was always taking care of comedians Well, here was this. This was probably 84 84 85.

45:18I was in high school. Yeah, really hit in 86. Yeah, yeah So do I ever tell you my story how I found out about him? It's probably Boston with Perento or something. No, a girl that I worked with at the Boston Athletic Club I was still to this day. I can't remember a fucking name. She was really cool though. She was this big volleyball player girl like Big athletic girl and She goes to me. She goes you seen Sam Kennesman can Sam Kenneson. Whatever's name was Um, I go no, I have it and so she acts out in the parking lot the whole bit about him Lithium beer. No, no, no, the the Homosexual necrophilia.

45:58Yeah, oh god. Yeah, yeah, she acted it out in the parking lot. She's like oh Life keeps fucking in the ass even after you're dead. It never ends me laughing at her Acting it out in the parking lot made me go get the VHS tape So I got a VHS tape of his his HBO special and I was like holy shit So I found out about it from a girl acting out the bit she's on her stomach in the parking lot going oh Feels like something's in my ass. You can't believe it that angle was genius. It's such a fucking genius Genius point of view that that night was that was 1987 And that was at the roxy on sunset and my mom had an after party for him at the house Wow at the doheny house so that night afterwards Sam came to the house with everyone and um And I was so excited because I wanted to show my my saltwater fish tank Because as a kid I had a saltwater fish tank and I brought him up to my room And I said Sam look at my tank and he wasn't impressed at all He's like, but he told me to take the top off the saltwater fish tank was a big black top And I took it down.

47:07He dumped all this coke on it And he started chopping up lines and he says have fun and me and my friend Dave We snorted Sam's coke that night. Oh my god. And I felt like so cool I felt like no for real of course this guy You know, and then I just followed him around. Well as far as him Him babysitting me it was it was no I was just the way I would describe yeah I mean lowest brownfield babysitting me Jackson Purdue babies at me So you were a center Argus Hamilton all those guys, you know, so you were essentially just like his young protege Yeah, I would fall it was like the Michael Jordan commercial like you know the kid want to be like Mike I want to be like or I want to be like Sam right so look at you.

47:49Yeah, so What year is that I was probably 11 Wow, it was probably 11 what a fucking crazy place to grow up. Yeah back then oh my god back then back I mean there's so many stories dude. I mean I'm there now and it's it's great obviously It's the store But when mom was there it was just like you never know what the fuck was gonna happen You never knew who's gonna pull in the fucking lot You never knew who was gonna come up. It was just like yeah, it was like it was like someone shooting guns Yeah, not literally, but just as far as the energy Boom boom boom. I mean Eddie Murphy used to show up with like six rolls rises Like for real dude and then Richard would show up and you know and all these guys would just Rollin.

48:33This is this is around when you got there. It was kind of towards right you got there 90 94 yeah, I saw that I when I got there. Yeah, I saw the um the calendar You have from my mom where she put your name. I thought that was really cool. Yeah, it's very yeah, so Yeah, so that was That was that time, you know, you know, I'm really proud of his argument. This right here. Yeah What is that? What year's that That was last year. No, I'm sick. Paulie sure bringing up Eddie Murphy. Yeah, when did Eddie retire? So he retired in what year he stopped doing stand -up when um, I don't know though I was at I was at his house probably five years ago, and I was just like dude.

49:11What are you doing? Like you're a fucking you're the best dude like let's go. He's like literally the best I think he should come out here and do it. He'd be great Because you put the phones in the in the pouches. He could do that anywhere if you wanted to I think the hard part would be like doing it. Just getting going I said I think if he did it once then he'd want to do it all the time You know, but it's like you get locked up in that movie world But he's also in case in his house. That's the same thing with Dr. Dre Dr. Dre um, he would be great on the show. Mm -hmm. I'd love to have a mom.

49:41Okay, Dre. What's up? I'm gonna put you on his show So we could text him right now So I've known Dre when my mom died he was he was he was One of like the two or three people that really reached out to me Because he knew how close I was with my mom. Yeah, he sent me flowers. It was really beautiful Yeah, it was it was very cool and um, but I went to his house You know these guys get these guys are so so big and so wealthy. They enclosed himself. Right. So um, I saw him at I reconnected with him at Dave Chappelle show at the the Hollywood Bowl And he's like, yo hit me up da da da da da. I hit him up.

50:18I go to his house and it's like fucking El Chapo, bro It's like, you know, they mean it's like he's you I don't want I don't want to reveal all the shit But it's like, you know, it's it's pretty heavy, but I go in there It's the same fucking guy that he was you know 23 years ago Of course most people are they just they do deteriorate psychologically doing isolation Yeah, he says yo man, you want to see me you come here So it's pretty cool. That's also a nice thing about having this club That I'm hanging around with comics all the time, you know Yeah, it's just there's you're not isolated You're out there and as a comic one of the things that does happen when you tour We're talking about you you bring an opening act you maybe hang out with them And that's it.

51:00Yeah, that's the whole weekend It's kind of isolating and if you're not with that that person Then you go and you use like local opening acts. I mean, maybe it's great and you meet a great friend That's how medsagura or maybe it's terrible and you have a shitty weekend People you don't like so yeah, so what do you think of these guys? I mean, I'm I'm like I'm a fan, you know of you of Tom of of Bert and all these guys like what you you Do you ever pinch yourself and see what you've really? I'm not saying you're the the holier the now person that did this the talent They're talent speaks for themselves But you have a lot to do with these guys careers.

51:34Well, they have a lot to do with mine too though That's part of the appeal of the show Part of the appeal of the show was like having those guys on is great for me too Yes, it's great for everybody, but I'm just saying because I again, I seen it. I seen the the slow build Yeah, but they're huge because they're great that that's what it is like you have to you have to do the work and put it in It's like everybody should have a chance to do it like giving someone a chance to excel You shouldn't get any credit for that like the the people that excel they get the credit Like what they're doing is what's exceptional and that's they put it in the work guys like Bert put in the work like you sound out Fucking arenas.

52:11I know it's saying It's insane, but he puts the work in you no one can deny that man. It's the machine The fucking machine, bro. Yeah, I mean he keeps a selfless promoter He's always making these great videos. He's always like fucking full on raw raw burp was big gut hanging out He's a wild man. He's killing it and his new movies hilarious. Yeah, this machine movie's gonna crush it It's gonna crush it. It's fine. I watched one of the the previews that he showed us. Yeah, it's great He shows other things other than the previous no, right? Have you seen my movie guest house? I have not it's on Netflix Eric Griffin's in it Bobby Lee's in it when was this in it like a couple years ago.

52:48Oh no shit. Yeah during the pandemic Yes, no right before but it came out in the oh, that's good. It's on Netflix. It's great. Okay. That's great It's something come out when everybody's definitely watching TV. Yeah, it did well It's called guest house that play a guy that lives in the guest house that won't leave So it's a it's our rate. It's the first r -rated comedy I've ever done. Oh wow. Yeah. Oh, that's nice Yeah, it was cool. It's it's pretty wrong. I'll check it out. Yeah, it's cool. I think you'll like it It's amazing the shows that popped off during like what do you think Tiger King would have become absolutely not right?

53:19No way. It's like a timing of the universe. It was like perfect door opened. Yeah Where everybody's at home and then everybody's like kind of freaking out What better way to stop freaking out the look at some people that are way more fucked up than you right? Like at least you're not that guy You know this fucking outside brace on carrying a pistol everywhere and fucking all these straight guys like yeah This is wild. Yeah, this guy you like he owns tigers Yeah, and how about the one person that got I don't know if this person decided they're a boy or girl Did they change genders when at whatever person got their fucking arm bitten off by a tiger?

53:52Yes Instead of going through a bunch of operations. They said not just had it off. That was this boy Yeah, I don't want to go through five operations Just take this fucking arm off Yeah, but row. Yeah, I know what the fuck man I mean and then goes right back to working with tigers What tiger tiger and he she they them's lap Wow, what do you what do you think about the whole um, I don't I don't want to say the word trick by the way free jokes on Free Joe free Joe free Joe's on it free Joe's let's go do a mobile pot your mobile podcasts from yeah I wish I wish you'd give them a day off So what do you think about the whole I don't want to use the word trend trend trajectory because that's not a real word trajectory trajectory Thank you of what of just from the last 30 years of the entertainment business You know how it started off with you know movies TV and then like real world came and then you know and then uh What was it um amazing race and and all these things and then all of us in the internet came and now everyone's got their own show Yeah, and then when you watch a movie with great actors like you know Pacino or whoever you think is great You're staring at your phone.

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57:41Yeah, everyone's famous now. What do you think about that? Well, it's a big shift But the there's still making movies. There's still making television shows Matt Damon Made a video where he was explaining why people aren't making movies anymore Why they're not making good and how hard it is to make a movie now and He explained it for as you know person is like on the inside and it's much more daunting than I thought And then there's the television show thing. There's a lot of television shows now, right? There's television shows that are on Netflix and television shows that are on regular networks, but Reality shows are very cheap very easy and very compelling You know, and they found that out through fear factor and through survivor and through you know all those other shows That kind of shifted the landscape away from the sitcom And the sitcom was our holy grail right when we first came to Hollywood Not when you did, but what my generation came to Hollywood in like 94 When we came out here everybody wanted a sitcom, you know, I mean, I remember when you had your sitcom on Fox I remember I came out to the premiere.

58:46Oh wow It was it was like holy shit. You got a show like that was it. That's what everybody wanted Everybody wanted the golden that was the golden that was her rhythm. That was her rhythm That was the times that was what it was back then Nowadays if you're trying to get a sitcom And other than Miss Pat who's pulled it off Miss Pat's show is fucking hilarious It's really good dude, but it's on BET plus It's not on a network so she can swear she could say whatever the fuck she wants That shows really good, but other than that how many comics do you know that have a sitcom a multi -cam sitcom? You know Whitney had one for a while a lot of people had them Tom Rhodes had a show back when I was on news radio He had a show There was a lot of fucking people at shows, but now Now No great Gerardo had a show.

59:38He was right next to us. We were filming for your factors or filming News radio as well. It's the same thing with the talk show format as well Everyone's got a talk show. I mean not everyone's got a talk show But there's the three talk shows, but then there's guys like you that trump the talk show Well, they're just playing with an outdated system So they're involved in a system that has to stop every few minutes For commercials. It only airs at a specific time meaning you have to be there to watch it or you have to set your DVR to watch it later It takes a lot of additional steps. There's a lot going on that makes those things unappealing The other thing is a person goes on then we talk for five minutes If you're a person who wants to explain something very complicated like the younger driest impact theory or like You know if Bob Lazar wants to go on a show and talk about how he was hired by the government to back engineer flying So that's not a five clip on On Jimmy Kimmel, right?

1:00:38You're not gonna be able to do it. It's literally there They are completely handicapped by the system that they operate in you can't do it when I saw Tom Green show He had this show that he did in his house that he set up a like a talk show set in his house And he had all these cables that ran from the talk show set up to a server room like he had like his house had been converted into a television studio So this is amazing. It was in 2007. Yeah, and that was when I was like okay That's probably the way to do it this talk show way They're never gonna give me one of those things if they do all fuck it up.

1:01:15I'll say something stupid And so when you saw Tom Tom Green's show that's when you and red band sat in the couch Well, we did it a couple of years later. We started doing things like we would do Videos that we do after shows or during hook a brother up. Please pick a brother up. Dude. We're just hanging out. We're having coffee Yeah, we're chilling brother. Yeah chairs chairs, but um, so we started doing that like 2000 Like seven or eight we started doing like green room shows with a webcam. Yeah, just fucking around. Yeah And then in 2009 we started doing the podcast again just fucking around Yeah, because when I when when you and I talked and we talked about me coming on on your show here I was so excited It was the same enthusiasm I got when I used to get letterman Because I was on letterman a lot and his show I felt like It was big deal.

1:02:06It was cool. So you're you're a big deal now with this. I mean, it's pretty fucking cool So because your show is it trumps co bear it trumps Jimmy Fallon and it jumps Jimmy Kimmel trumps Jimmy Kimmel show meaning it's a bigger deal for a guest to book Oh, I'm on fucking Joe Rogan. Where are you laughing? What the fuck dude? Come on You know, it's it's it's a it's a big deal So I got super excited when I was gonna be on this like I did back in the day when I got on letterman Because I was so excited to get on letterman. I was excited to come see you well. I'm excited to have you You're your good dude, Paulie.

1:02:43You really are. You're a very nice guy Remember when we did that show at the mgm and afterwards we hung out and talked You're a good dude, man, you know, I've known you a long time. It's nice to see Well, that's to see you happy and it was really like I said. It was really nice to see you killing on stage Because you were having fun. Yeah, you were so loose. We were all howling. There's a bunch of comics in the back laughing And that reminded me of the old days. Remind me the OR like when Joey Diaz would go on stage. We'd all sit in the back Yeah, mooney Yes, when mooney to go on we'd all sit down.

1:03:12Oh my god Well, yeah, through everyone under the bus that show you through everyone Well, yeah, you know, Nick and you know, it's having fun with some of your local your local people here I was just fucking around with people. Oh, yeah, no from the focus. Yeah, it's a sweetheart. It is a sweetheart Yeah, yeah, that oh that environment of the back booth, you know of sitting in the back seat economy You would walk in you always look who's oh, yeah, Griffith. What's up? It was always like people say that's how ultimates now when I see him Yeah, yeah, I saw him a couple weeks ago. He's really fucking nuts.

1:03:46Oh, he's out of his mind. Yeah, he's so funny though He's always got the absolute wrong take on whatever the fuck is happening in the news. Yeah In the post brutal way, everyone goes left. He goes right. He goes hard. Yeah, he goes hard Remember when the Susan Smith drowned her kids. Oh, yeah, he was on stage like a day later Yeah, I heard those bad kids. Yeah, I heard they sat that close to the TV. They never put away their blocks They always spilled their milk those kids will not be missed It was just so crazy watching them do that. We were howling. Mm -hmm. All some of the funny motherfucker He's a funny motherfucker I was wearing my Brody sheet shirt today.

1:04:26Oh, wow. I got a Brody positive push shirt. Mm -hmm He was a funny motherfucker man. He was a fun guy to watch the end of the night You know, there's something there's a special moment That I only experience at the store and that moment is the when the show is old and someone kills The store gives you this thing When you get a chance to see when the show is old and someone goes up and kills When it's just like maybe there's 25 people left And it's late at night and someone just goes up and is coming in hot And they're killing for 25 30 people Rick Ingraham has done really well too. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm really proud of him.

1:05:07Yeah, he's opening up for Chris Rock Yeah, it's amazing. That's how Chris found him He just yeah, he just saw him. He's like fuck. Let's roll And he went out there and then he took pictures of Paul McCartney Wow, that's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. Yeah, yeah, so um, yeah, so Yeah, if you think about all the comics that have come from that place that your mother built What an amazing thing Hey, so many comics over so long so long You know, it's like So many years. Yeah, Don Barris is doing great over there too. He does this ding dong show nice. Yeah, he's cool So the thing about places like the store too is that it used to be zeroes Used to be another nightclub He used to have like Jerry Martin or D Martin and Jerry Lewis perform there and you know all these celebrities like there's experience Baked in the wall of that place.

1:06:01Do you do you know how the you know how the whole store started right? Yeah, you know with my father and stuff Yeah, I mean, do you know a lot about my father? Not too much. Yeah, my father was never around when I was around Yeah, but I'm talking about he wasn't I mean no one was around when he was around I mean, he's never around when I was there. So yeah, no, he well he he no meaning He started it, you know, he he started it He started it with this partner Rudy Deluca and they um, you know, they got the room and they developed it And you know my mom got the store, but my dad a lot of people don't know who he is and what he's about If it wasn't for my father No disrespect to my mother, but there wouldn't be an account there wouldn't have been a comedy store She might have found her way Somewhere else, but he's the reason why they moved out to California So he's the reason because of his career So he was he was my dad was guest starring on Sanford and son Sanford and son he played brother Sam.

1:07:02He did a movie episode to do with that a couple I mean if you go on there, you could see Sammy shorts. That's all red fox. I thought he did I used to watch that show was the best show is the best show red fox. Oh my god. Yeah, there he is That's amazing. So I call my I call my dad. I call my father like he's He took one for the team Meaning him and my mom never wanted to be together So my mom got pregnant and had Scott my oldest brother And this was an accident and they got married and she didn't want to be with him And he didn't want to be with her But he just sucked it up and he was in this relationship with this woman my mother and that he never really wanted to be in so he um He started doing he started you know acting and doing all that and then he got you know he You know he was opening for Elvis.

1:07:55He was opening for you know Sammy Davis. He was opening for You know all these great comedians and uh or all these great entertainers and he started it You know he started at the beginning of it, you know Wow, and it was in the original Just the original room. Yeah, how many it don't see see did less people back then though, right? Yeah Was like 94 people I think it was like that and they moved the wall. Yeah, but yeah my dad my dad, you know He he uh he took one for the team, you know For us it's an amazing if he didn't do that If he didn't do that and then didn't give the reins to your mother Correct who knows what the comedy world would look like I mean who knows of a guy like kennis and never gets off the ground Correct, you know what I mean like you need a place like that where it's a real artist workshop I mean, that's a high flute in terms.

1:08:44Well, but that's really what it is Well, that's what my mom was that's that's why my mom had this natural instinct to develop comedians because it was in her veins So what would happen was Is my dad would that's where my mom met my dad is when he was performing an l -card lake with sconson So my dad was the comedian for a month in l -card lake with sconson. It was a touring comic and My mom started dating my father and she got pregnant and then he took off and you know That's when that whole you know when the whole thing where they're gonna have the kid and what happened is my mom would type up My dad's jokes in the back with type up the jokes.

1:09:23This is funny. That's not funny. Try this That's not good and then give him pointers So when my my dad was always really nervous performing in front of my mom So for instance my dad got a shot on Ed Sullivan show That's a that was a big deal for him after barber strison So it was this big shot my mom was like he fucking blew it He you know he's nervous. He fucked it up and it just made him more You know, this was part of the reason why it became an alcoholic Was you know being nervous trying to make it he would always kind of like in her eyes, you know And if you google my father Ed Sullivan show Sammy Shore you could see photos of him But that was a big shot for him and my mom says that he blew it You say it's not happening.

1:10:09Did you ever watch that? Yeah, I have I don't think you I don't think he blew it I think he did all right Look at this Ed Sullivan Yeah, he was on there with the stones Look at Mick Jagger Look how amazing that looks give us some volume on that I mean Jesus this is the 60s, dude. This was a big deal. Look at their faces Listen to the girl screaming does anybody get that kind of reaction today? Hmm, they're just shrieking constantly Yeah

1:10:49So my dad my dad was very much like me. He just wanted to be a free spirit Just wanted to be on the road, but he got her preggers and um he got her pregnant and he you know you can't really I guess you can I guess you can perform and be dishonest in a relationship because he was he was he was he wasn't it wasn't faithful to my mom You know, he had a crooked dick You know shit like that and she would you know and it was tough for me growing up because I you know I love my father and he was he was a great dad, but my mom would always kind of like Rip into him that ripping into him though like what that Characteristic that she had made everyone better.

1:11:32Mm -hmm. She was so good at like pointing out what was wrong with your act and you know that Natural a natural good natural and when yeah, I mean it was it was hard for me Like we didn't when I first started doing stand -up. It wasn't easy. I'm sure it was fucking like I'm sure I mean I had to make it quick Yeah, I didn't make it quick right because I started when I was uh 17 18 or you know 17 and what year was totally poly how old we then That was um early 20s But that time between high school between MTV was like this was quick. I had to like you know I was I was I mean she kicked me out of the house.

1:12:16I moved down the street. I was like fuck you It was that type of shit. I mean it got really bad. Of course. Yeah, it got really bad You get out of here, you know, I mean it was when I was hanging out with Sam. Oh, I don't want you to hang out with Sam anymore He's at the alcoholic. He's a coquette And I was like mom I'm not hanging out with Sam because he said I'm hanging out because he's a great comic She goes you don't understand and she's a get out of my house and she threw her keys at me and that turned into this whole thing What was it like in westwood in the early days like you were there in 84 like what was that club like like what What was the scene like there?

1:12:52So the westwood comedy store because that's what you got right yes Yeah, it was kind of like the uh, let's call it the red band room. No, it's here. No, it was uh um it was um Westwood Boulevard is here and then you got Wilshire and then you got Olympic, you know that that uh So the westwood comedy store was in between it wasn't in westwood village. It was in between um Wilshire and Olympic and right next door was an arcade So there's this big arcade and then there was the westwood club So on the stage you had Dave Tyree he had Andrew Dice Clay, Rosanne you had um Arsenio Sam Carlibault and Dave Tyree Dave Tyree remember Dave Tyree yeah, he was funny dude Yeah, he was Dave Tyree was really funny.

1:13:40I remember one time he went on that stage He was all coked out and drunk and he goes I don't know what you people are Looking at me for any just fucking age. He just ate shit off his face But that's how it was back then. Oh my god. Like I need I want to see people fall at the mothership You know what I mean? Well, yeah, but uh Yes, so westwood was like the whole culture was just hard partying right yeah But she developed she developed she had a whole system I mean her whole system was you know, it was if she liked you you know It worked the door and then she would go work westwood and Alan Stevens used to um He used to remember Alan Stevens.

1:14:15Yeah, he used to um Take me from the westwood comedy sort of sunset and he was always coked out Say we do lines of coke and then take his renegade black sheep down sunset and then you drop me off And I'd be there my mom would come out of the store into her black jag and Argus would be chasing her Wow, yeah, and she'd get off of me Argus Leave me alone and I want to go home by myself Leave me you know, they mean like that type of shit And then I got in the car and then me and my mom would drive her car And there's like two in the morning Down sunset and we go would drive by the whiskey and black flag was playing there And then all the punkers would spit on my car my mom's car because we were rich or whatever They'd get out of here And then we had drive by the the rainbow and all the heavy metal guys would be in the street Yeah, and it would go up and then Argus would be pounding on the door Missy, I'm here.

1:15:05I had to call the cops. I had to call the cops on Argus Is that when Argus was in his drug days? Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, but a wild man. Yeah, I had to call the cops on him, but that's hilarious That rainbow barn grill such a strange place I only been there a couple of times, but it's like Jesus. There's a guy from this band. There's a guy from that band There's this guy's from Dawkins. Yeah, it's it's a weird like hangout Yeah, it was it's it's it's again It was like I think it was like the kind of the comedy store for you know heavy metal bands, you know You know where guns and roses would go Motley crew and you know and everybody knew that they would go there.

1:15:41Yeah, and it was a big deal Yeah, it was a big deal and there was different rooms and you can walk up there. Is it still like that now? No, I mean, it's it's there, but I mean I've been there in a couple years the other place that's like that is Well, not like that, but a cool like hang is Dan Tannins. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's the best food. That place has been around Fuck ever like great when you're in that. It's like you're in a time capsule to a great restaurant from like the the early 80s Yeah, the best is that yeah, the best is the chicken Parmesan and then everything's great. Yeah, their steaks are fantastic Yeah, we got to go next thing with clams.

1:16:17Yeah, it's a really good restaurant And it's a fun hang too. There's always a bunch of drunks at the bar You know, it's like a lot of people go there just to hang out It's not just like go there to dinner. They go there to hang out too. Kippadata used to go there before he passed They used to see him there a lot. I didn't even know he passed When did he pass? Um, I don't know. I was a couple years back But yeah, Westwood, Westwood was a great place. What year did she open that place? And August knows the exact dates, but I think it was um I think the late 70s something like that the late 70s. What year did kinsen get there?

1:16:5784 so so you were there when he got that's which is so crazy that two years later. He's doing his HBO special. Yeah He was I mean do this fucking guy. I mean when he when he I mean his whole thing was the letterman spot The Rodney Dangerfield spot in like he did those six minutes on on Rodney or whatever it was sold out three thousand seats and then he did um You know, then he did the next Rodney young comedian special sold out, you know eight thousand You know, and I got to go I got to open for him Which was sick. That's amazing. Yeah, we did the his second HBO special was as at the will turn And iced tea was there and this is when Sam was really fucked up So if you if you look at the special you're like fuck this guys are all coked out and he's like not doing well And this one he came out with the chains with this girl Malika and Sabrina He's like oh, oh, oh, oh, and he's playing the music and iced tea was in the audience Yeah, and it was like and he was like, you know, Sam was doing some racist shit Yeah, and it was um yeah, he was he was wild.

1:18:02Well Sam had Did you ever read his brother bill his book? Yeah, brother Sam. Yeah, he talks about the slide like that when he started parting all the time stop writing He wasn't performing as much and yeah, I thought you could tell in the work if you go and watch his early stuff Yeah, it drops off a lot Yeah, which sucks because you know, you'd like to see them just keep getting better You know, if he was if he could somehow another state alive and kick these addictions and just got better Yeah, but sometimes what brings you to the dance also syncs you, you know Well, he him and I him and well, he introduced me to my business manager So I have the same business manager that I've had for 25 years his name is Lester.

1:18:49Hey Lester. What's up, Lester? Shout out to Lester and uh And Sam when he was all fucked up and coked out and all that he he had fired everyone in his life except for Lester So Lester was always always with him and he said to me or Sam said to Lester take care of him He's like my younger brother So ever since then Lester's been taking care of me Wow, yeah, so Sam, you know, he was to me Sam was like Elvis kind of he uh Was fucked up, but he had the biggest heart in the world So he would come to my mom's house. He would always bring presents You know, he's always being presents and um, that's cool.

1:19:28Yeah, he was a You know, seeing the look on your face when you're in our bar Seeing the picture of your mom The neon sign That was very cool It was very cool to be with you Like right next to the mommy saw it Yeah, no, it was uh You know, like I said from when we first started talking here, I was saying I'm saying that Speaking on my mom's behalf, I know her and I know what you're doing with her and how much you care about her And how much you love her and what she's done um I know she's really proud of you She's really proud of you and she's very proud of what you've done here and very proud of the bar And her spirit is in the bar for sure her spirits and that whole building yeah You know, um, I mean we're all disciples.

1:20:20Yeah, we're all disciples of your mom. Yeah, I took care of her You know that last 15 years every time I'd see you Every time I'd see you I always wanted at the store You know, I never wanted to bother you. It was always like I wanted to always bring you to my mom You know and um, but I think maybe we talked about it and you're like, yo, I'm good. I don't want to see her like that At the end, it doesn't have any said to me once I think at the end. It was so bad. It was just like It was just so heavy I Imagine me taking care of her for those years. I mean imagine me going in to see her and she's in the chair you know and she's You know and I always made it a point to driver I always made it a point, you know me and my mom's caregiver and Scott we'd always like put her in the car and driver and we'd always um Take her for drives until her back started hurting And she'd be like get me home, you know, but she'd always drive by the I'd always driver by the lab factory So there is what the fuck is he working there for the fuck You know what I mean and then we'd drive by the store And then she'd be like what why is that marquee like that called Tommy You know what I mean type shit.

1:21:40I mean Tommy. I mean whatever he did he did But he took care of her dude. Yeah, he fucking he did shit that a normal employee would not do yeah for sure Not do he would carry her up the stairs You know, they mean and she wanted she wanted him to You know she wanted him to and she felt comfortable with him You know whether good bad. It's it's not us to say. That's how she felt. Yeah, and um Yeah, you know during those uh You know she didn't want to get sick. It started, you know, it started her my friend Bobby was with her in the front of the store Um Back in the early 2000s and she's smoking her Capri cigarettes And she starts seeing her finger go like that and she goes what's going on Why is that wasn't the early 2000?

1:22:30Yeah, that's when she started getting sick. Yeah, what's going on And that's when she shifted her Her mind away from the store and she didn't want to get sick. You know, she just she didn't want to die at all And um she did the best she could with um You know, whatever, you know, she got I think a lot of it had to do with you know the business You know because she was an artist running a business Let me say that again. She was an artist running a business So she wasn't a real I don't want to say her the business sense wasn't really her thing She was about the comics and it's hard to do both You know with the numbers and the insurance and the you know and the taxes and all that shit that fuck with her Because that's not who she because that's not who she was Of course because if she was that way she would never run the club the way she did right that's that's she ran it like an artist So that's why I think she got sick.

1:23:25That's my feeling interesting, you know that pressure The business part of it could be I mean pressure is fucking terrible for people that kind of stress is terrible for people You know mean so many ways hard attacks You know people freak the fuck out, you know like you're not supposed to be redlined all the time You got to find some moments where you're chilled out And she did she did she did start making a lot of money and she did start buying property. She bought a theater on Lost promise and sunset and she called it the Richard prior theater. Oh wow. Did you know about that? Yeah, I'd heard about it But I never been there.

1:24:01Yeah, neither was Richard No, but my mom loved him so much my mom loved him so much That she's she called it. She's she goes he could develop this stuff here Paulie this is where he can go to develop all his stuff and that's how much she loved Richard prior She loved him so much that she uh, that's like you're gonna buy Tony Hinch Cliff a club, right? Yeah, I'm scared And then she did the dunes in Vegas. That was a big deal. Mm -hmm. That was a big deal doing the comedy store in Vegas was a huge huge deal I got video of me and Chris rock That then because she had the show called new faces. You never did that no because that was the 80s Yeah, I made 80s when I came in I had been doing standing for like six years And when I lived in Boston the comedy store was mecca It was the place that everybody talked about like you got to get to the comedy store Like it was like kennis and came from there prior came from there and all anyone talked about when they talked about clubs I mean there was clubs that we were doing in Boston there was clubs to do in New York, but really everybody wanted to get to the comedy store And then when I first got there I was on a sitcom already and You know the sitcom was not doing well.

1:25:16I was on Fox. It was failing and um The most important thing that happened to me was getting past as a paid regular and the Todd helped me out the Todd sat next to your mom and was laughing really hard And then he came up to me afterwards. He goes hey, he goes I laugh really hard at your jokes Because you're really funny and also because it means he's sitting next to me and you're gonna do that too to somebody else I'm like okay, you got it. I'm like that's great like he like there was a community there like he set it up Like what what the Todd did he set it up with me where I was gonna do that for everybody Like anytime anybody was really funny.

1:25:55I would go and I would One time for it. What time your mom, but I don't want to say his name But your mom booked this Comedian that was fucking terrible to host the open mic night and Chris McGuire was supposed to do uh his first audition in front of your mom And I was like there's no fucking way. I'm like I'll do it. So I hosted the open mic night Just so that I could like set a stage for Chris. I just wanted it to be a good show. I don't know who Chris McGuire is He's a good friend of mine from Boston's funny guy. Okay kind of I don't know if he does stand up anymore It was a very good writer very funny guy.

1:26:27It was a very funny comic too We started out so he went on stage in front of her. He didn't do good. No, he didn't well He did really well. No, he got passed, but it was like I I I did the open mic hosting Because I wanted to make sure it was set up good for your mom. Yeah, tee it up. Yeah, I want to tee it up Because like if you couldn't sit next to her and laugh, you know like you should like tell her someone's funny You know But she if you fucked up though if you told her so you fucking think he's funny She would get so mad. Yeah She your mother had amazing taste. The funniest was this is I'd sit next to her as well.

1:27:03And I would see people Duke go on stage and she called you over you did good and she didn't call you over she wasn't interested And I just believe they do their set and they just walk by her and they're like looking at her and she's just like Uh Just go through her papers and shit. Yeah, but yeah, but if she liked you, you know, she she brought you in you But having some like that Like some gold standard bear keeper at the top was very valuable for comedians It was very valuable and she also would do when she thought you were funny. She'd put you on after killers You always had to follow like whoever was famous that was gonna go down there She wanted to make sure that you were tested Throw you into the fire and that's how you get better She's just fucking new man She knew and it's all things that people talk about now, but I think in In her own way she sort of devised Uh, like a modern strategy for getting better at standup Having the environment what she created Having one person is like ruthlessly critical that watches over everybody's material and everybody sets And then everybody aspires for the approval Of your mom and she had to had it set up so perfectly and because she wasn't a comic either and because she was You know, she's royalty in the standup comedy world.

1:28:25She had everyone's respect. So there and she was right She was right. She she knew she knew what the fuck she did. She didn't like Seinfeld Just hilarious. He lived he lived up the street from me and my mom So me and my mom would walk the dog Kelly her dog and we would walk by his house You know, there he is Not happening You know rat tat tat New York. That's so weird. Keep it keep it going Let's keep moving. I'm like bumpy nice to him. He's good. No, let's go And she just didn't buy into it. That's so funny. You know, I mean she didn't buy into it. I wonder why Maybe because he didn't need her.

1:29:09I don't know Because he had already made it and he had a sitcom. He was Seinfeld. Oh, so he was already on Seinfeld when he was a I mean, he'd been on that show for a while was around that time and was the early 90s, right? I don't know what the exact date was or Seinfeld she didn't like it when you were too developed Correct. Yeah, she liked getting people that had talent that were on the up You know, she didn't really like a lot of New York comics For some reason she interesting, you know, there was also a riff between obviously her and bud freedman And her and Lauren Michaels people asked me like hey when you're doing all your movies Did you ever do saturday night live?

1:29:47Do you ever host saturday night live? And I never did and I think a lot of it has to do with Lauren Michaels and my mom. I'm sure to help No, can't help because she was harsh, you know what I mean? My mom had Jim Carrey Damon Wayne's and all these guys and they were from the store. Yeah, and um, you know, so I wonder if your mom was concerned that if someone like Seinfeld got on That people who would want to see sitcom style stand up like very sterile stand up. What start comes to the clubs Like and then you would start getting People going to see people just because they're famous And not really because they're good.

1:30:30I mean she probably had a method to her Approach I wonder what she was thinking Or wonder if she just didn't want it because he was already developed and she couldn't work with him I don't think she just liked him. I just don't think that she doesn't think she liked that style But if she's driving by his house, you're still talking about walking you know walking to the house And then he said some shit. He sits and that's another thing He never asked me on his fucking car show. I got all my friends on his car show I'm like dude, and it's again. I think like it's always awkward and Leno too whenever I see Leno.

1:31:03It's fucking weird Letterman's cool. I love letterman, but Leno's always been weird because these guys like Leno striked against my mom There is this weird thing and and you know and and my relationship with Leno is very different He's always been very nice to me and we both love cars So I have great conversations with him about cars. I don't know the history of that I mean, I do know it, but I wasn't aware of it But but my point is is that he never did anything to me I'm just talking about my mom's relationship with Jay and I think it has to do with the strike But when I did see Jay at the palm restaurant in Beverly Hills years ago when my mom was there He came up and gave her a kiss, but then of course she mumbled The fuck is going on with him

1:31:50She was so funny. Yeah, she was so funny. You know me. Yeah And when your mom told you you're funny. It was like the greatest gift. Yeah That you could ever give a comic she came up to you and like put her her hand on your arm. That was really funny Yeah, she never said that to me I have become famous probably before she put me on her stage for real dude I'm like mom Can I go on stage these people are here to see me? You're not ready Not happening you got more and she was right Yeah, cuz I was fucking around right hey bro. Whoa Hey You know me and but she I mean I've been told by comedians that she was very proud But she never said to me that's another thing is she never told me she loved me Oh wow I can't say I love you because then you wouldn't be a comic oh my god Your science projects She's to lock me in the back better I can't say I love you because then you wouldn't be a comic Wow She figured out a way to make you a comic I programmed him I used to put him in the back bedroom you pound his head against the grip Jesus Christ.

1:33:00It's true So imagine that was like how like a dictatorship created comedians Like Soviet block they decided to take over the comedy world and they're just gonna torture kids Just start open mics Torture kids at a very young age. I think we have a good thing here. We could do a farms other ship Yeah, you fuck them up now you'd have to do it in a country that doesn't have the constitution Right if you're gonna do it right. It's gonna be some communist dictatorship. Hmm. Maybe China could do this right They're probably already Russia. Yeah, Russia. You do that And then Do some slowly to the idea stand up comedy, but beat him first and torture them right definitely don't make him comfortable Right don't beat him.

1:33:43Did you get beaten? No, see that that'd be too much. Yeah, then you wouldn't be able to get on stage You'd be fucked up. Yeah Yeah, I mean if you really think about it like that What are the odds that someone Becomes a stand -up comedy it stand -up comedian if you look at the 300 whatever the hell million people is just in this country alone Forget about all the other countries that do stand up What are the odds that someone becomes a comic like Not talking fucking good. They're pretty small. I tell people I say because people come up to me I'm sure they come up to you. I'm like don't do it unless it gets you out of bed Don't do it as a hobby.

1:34:21Yeah, you know like it like I get I mean I'm 55 I've been doing it for 35 years. I love it now even more than I loved it back then. I just love it I think when you get older one of the things that happens is you can appreciate it more. Hmm You can appreciate what this thing is, you know, you Appreciate how lucky you are to be able to do it. There's so much fun. It makes people feel good It really does like the whole audience has a great time everybody feels better. It's like a drug. We all take together We're all laughing about things together. Yeah, you know, it's just my job to put it together It's your job to you know piece together your ideas in the most palatable way possible That's what we're all just doing and it's the most fun thing to do And the fact that you do that for a living Of course you want to do it all the time and as you get older and you realize that You know most people don't really get to do what they truly love to do There's most people out there and some weird thing where they kind of like what they do But they maybe wish they were doing something else when you're doing stand up when you're on stage killing You never think I wish I was doing something else You just like this is so much fun.

1:35:26Yeah, so much fun. It's the less it for me It's the let and I'm sure for you. It's the it's the it's the place that it feel the less stressed. Yes the least stress least least stress, you know after you get off stage, you're like You know, there's this I don't know if it's dopamine. I don't what the fuck it is But it it's a it's a release. Yeah. Yeah, like when my mom was dying like those 15 years I was touring a lot. I wasn't around the store a lot when you were there I was on the road and it fucking saved my life big time. That's awesome big time That's awesome. Yeah, it's uh, it is it's uh It's a stress stress reliever that we have we're lucky.

1:36:05Yeah. Yeah, we're very lucky It's just You know, it's It's amazing uh, how much it takes like how many pieces have to be put into place to make a club work That's why it's amazing that your mom is able to do it sustain it for so long. Mm -hmm. There's so many moving pieces So much going on, you know, you're dealing with so many different personalities. Mm -hmm. Now so many different crazy people They're performers. It's interesting because when I'm there now I look around and I see her there Like I said that's where she talked to Rosanne That's where Gary Shanley was that's where Sam walked into the bar You know what I mean?

1:36:48These ghosts. Yeah, you know, they're still there like I feel like her her there. Yeah um but uh Yeah, she uh, you know, she left an amazing legacy for sure Yeah, she definitely did When you're doing stand -up now or you uh doing clubs on the road you turn around or you're doing Mostly falling alleys No, but I mean you're doing the road or you're staying in LA What do you do? Mostly the road. Yeah, yeah, like I have my nice on I have a nice audience out there that After all these years, you know, I'm still I don't want to say shocked, but I'm still appreciative That these people come in my you know, you put on a good show man.

1:37:32You were funny and shit I really enjoyed it. It was really fun. It was it was fun to see. Mm -hmm. It was fun to see you loose and relaxed Because I think when I've seen you at the store I think because you grew up at the store the connection you have to the store I think there's a lot of pressure on you You know and not not a positive way when you go on stage there. Yeah Is that true? Yeah, well, I said that to you. Yeah, I said that um Yeah, because when I walk in the store even to even if I'm not performing there, it's uncomfortable Because I'm walking into my mother. Right. I'm walking into my father.

1:38:05I'm walking in all that history You know, and when I'm away from when I'm away from there It's it's polysure. It's the guy from the movies. It's the comedian guy. It's you know, you don't care about that Yeah, you were silly and loose and I was like I think that's the first time I've ever seen him like that Which is crazy is it all the years I've known you to see you that loose Like the first time ever. Yeah, but it's like And that was the first time I was ever on your stage. Yeah, so that was cool crazy. So I felt really I'm you know, I love that room. I love both. Yeah, they're both you gonna love the other one too But that that room is special.

1:38:41There's something cool about it. It's very unusual And so what's it like touring with Chappelle? I mean that must be you must be pinching yourself on that I see you on stage with him. You must be I mean because you know and I know he's got to be the best out there He's the best right now. Yeah, you might be the best ever. I agree. I mean his his his His eight shows at the Hollywood Bowl. I mean Richard prior Eddie Murphy those guys George Carlin they never sold out eight nights at the ball. No, and he could have done 20 more nights He could do whatever he wants. What's it like working with him?

1:39:13It's a privilege. Yeah, you're very very very fortunate to have an artist Of that caliber as a great friend You know, he came to the the club the first week was opened maybe second week. Maybe second week Yeah, he was the second week somewhere around there It was like right when we were like really open and he actually opened the little room He was the the first person on stage in that little room with Shane Gillis Shane did 15 minutes and he brought up Chappelle and then Chappelle did like man He did over an hour. I think he did like an hour and a half And he was just fucking around and being loose and just working on new material He goes I'm in a practice on y 'all He just because he just practices on people and he and he comes up with material that way He puts himself in these very vulnerable positions and he works through ideas and has someone film it And then that's how he pieces together his material.

1:40:05Yeah, you know when I watch his Netflix specials You know, he's got so many of them. They're still fresh Yeah, you know, and and I watch other people's Netflix specials because I'm open to other comics and it's just like I can't connect yeah, you know what I mean and with him like I always say people always ask me who your favorite comedians that comedian is now I say there's Dave Chappelle and there's everyone else That's just how I feel yeah, and I don't know if it's because I grew up around it I'm not saying there's not great comics now But when I look at that OR stage now and I see the comedians on there My mind goes to canister my mind goes to robin my mind goes to because those are the people that I saw on that stage And with chappelle.

1:40:48I'm just like it. It's just I've never seen anything like it You know, we're so blessed to have him in our lives. It's not just that it's really funny It's like the things he's talking about and the way he's breaking things down is perspective on things It's so it's not just being funny. No, it's a very interesting perspective. It's a very small perspective He's so relaxed and he's so like fucking Yeah, he loves it man. He's on the road constantly. He's always doing stand -up. He loves it. He loves it Yeah, I love it and then I went and visited him him and I got a shirt. He gave me a shirt. He has a A shop.

1:41:23He's got a ship hell shop with all his clothes. I went to his little town. I'm sure you've been there Have you been that yellow spring? I haven't been the old school. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Yeah, it's a little bit He did it the way he set it up. Yeah, so uh because We're at his house and he did that vitamin trip He did that. Yeah, um, and it was just me and him. Do you ever do that? I haven't done it. Oh no, wait I did it. No, they they did connect me that that day. They gave me a vitamin trip Dude. Yeah, it's a bomb dignity really. Yeah, especially if you feel bad if you don't feel well. Mm -hmm It's really good Ivy zinc and vitamin C and and so the nurse comes over and the thigh.

1:42:02Yeah, they give you an IV Rehydrate to gives you a lot of vitamins. It's just it's just Athletes love it. Yeah, I think they like to do it as much as possible Yeah, I think Adam Ray. I saw him recently in West Hollywood and he was coming out of a place like that And I think he was doing it too So I'm gonna try that's quite a few of those places. No when you were living in Vegas. Did you go up at all? Well you what I did Where were you working at? I helped start wise guys. Oh, which is the comedy club there with Keith Right, so Keith's the owner of the the wise guys you know in Utah. Mm -hmm. I heard the wise guys in Vegas is awesome Yeah, it's great.

1:42:37Donkins played their Ares played there uh How many seats? It's like 200 220 It's in the arts district. Nice. So yeah, I played there and I did some shows at the last factory. Where's the arts district? If here. Yeah, it's near off the Fremont line here. It's like another city downtown. It's hilarious It's hilarious. So here's Vegas. What is that? No, here's Fremont and then the strips over here. So arts district is in between Fremont and And the strip When you think of Vegas, you think of casinos, right? Yeah, there's like a whole vibrant bar scene. There's great restaurants Great restaurants.

1:43:17Yeah, there's a place called Esther's Kitchen. There's Sparrow and Wolf But that's that is not Vegas. That's like there's a small club. Yeah Right, I guess it is Vegas. What am I saying? Those are the that's the real Vegas though That's the heartbeat of Vegas those are the industry the Vegas industry all live off the strip Right the dancers the magicians the uh the bottle service girls all those girls and all the people Summerland Henderson. Mm -hmm. So I was there for two and two and a half years It was great. It was during the pandemic. I live next to Nicholas Cage Yeah, which was cool. Caratops actually the one that um reintroduced me to him So um and I had known Nicholas Cage because we went to the same high school from back in the day.

1:44:00So uh So when we connected it was fucking it was weird because I'm like you huge fan. Yeah, I mean I mean, he's been doing it for 40 years and his movies are you know, it's one of the best actors So when I'm he'll he'll hit me up. He'll be like yo come out. Let's go and then he'll like text me and he'll be in his $500 ,000 dollar You know Ferrari. I'm like where are we going is we're gonna get get some sushi So we'll go get sushi and then we'll drive down Las Vegas boulevard I'm like dude you don't need that he's got eight cars. I'm like you don't need this he goes. Yeah, but it's badass That's his answer to it.

1:44:35It's badass. I'm like all right. He's correct It's true and his house is awesome. Yeah, but you're like you're a little more sensible. Okay. Yeah. What are you doing Nick? Yeah slow down He's trying to be Nick Cage. Yeah, he is he's doing it. He loves it In his house is cool and he's he's he's great very very but he doesn't you know, he's not on social media We signed an NDA He made me sign an NDA wow that I can't like put any videos or photos anywhere No, I'm just kidding. He didn't sign it, but I'm just saying but but he but the one of the first conversations With him is when I came over to his house.

1:45:11He's like he's like come over. You're my neighbor. I don't know where right So I come over we start having a nice glass of wine And he says I'm not doing your podcast. I'm like, I didn't ask you to fuck up beyond the podcast I'm just here. What's up? And he goes just one thing promise me goes don't ever you know post any pictures or videos of us together Because I want to be private. I'm like cool and ever since then it's been It's been cool. Yeah, that's cool But I do have a lot of photos and videos of his of his dick of his penis. No, no But he is funny dude. I'm sure he is. Yeah, he seems like a real character And it's so funny that he changed his last name because he was connected to Francis for Coppola Right because because of his his nephew is that what is?

1:45:54Yeah, no, when he said what what Nick said is when he first started acting He was on the set of I think it was fast times that rich man high. He is with I think it was Sean Penn and you know, there was Different different actors and they go. Oh, you're just here because your uncle is Francis for Coppola So he didn't want to be known as that So so he didn't want to be known as that so he wanted his own identity and it worked you know because America or the world they don't think like oh, that's Francis for Coppola's nephew, you know, because his because his father was Francis for Coppola's brother.

1:46:33Right. That was the 60 minutes thing Yeah, yeah, the 60 minutes things was fun. It was very fun But that's what a great move too name yourself after a fucking superhero in the cage It's awesome. Yeah, and he's been in so many fun movies man. Yeah, I mean that guy was in What's the Arizona movie grazing Arizona? Yeah, I mean moon struck and leaving Las Vegas and I mean they just fucking amazing So many so many fucking great movies Yeah, yeah, he's a good dude. We hang out at this sushi bar in Vegas on Sahara. It's pretty good And we just you know, he's just you know, he's very sensitive as you can imagine, but he's a sweetheart I'm sure I would expect nothing.

1:47:18Yeah Smart of him staying off social media, dude. Yeah, it's not his thing. Yeah, it's not his thing You don't need it anyway Your necklace cage and he goes from he goes from one movie To the next movie to the next movie and he loves acting dude. How about leaving Las Vegas? Yeah Remember that movie hell. Yeah, holy shit heavy Yeah, heavy Did you see pig? No, that's his favorite movie that he did really you got to watch pig. It's great. It's really good Yeah, yeah, it's fucking great That and guest house my movie guest house Watch watch mine stone Um, yeah, look at him right there What is pig about someone steals his someone steals his truffle pig.

1:48:10Oh, no Yeah, and he's not happy about it. Oh, he looks wild as fuck. Yeah, look at him. Where's he supposed to be living? I think it's important in the woods. Oh, wow. Yeah No shit. Yeah, he's such a sweetheart. He's such a great guy and such a You know, I'm very um, you know happy that I got to connect with him. Who has my pick? Is this an action movie? Does he fuck people up? It's a good drama. There's no like John Wick with pigs. Not not quite Look close. I got this all those movies like you fuck with the wrong guy. Yeah so many movies like that You know boy did you fuck up? There's so many movies like that That was the old man's you're see the old man Mm -hmm.

1:48:52It was a series that was on Is it on apple? Might be on apple. It's on one of them weird ones Uh But it was really good at first and it just kind of a kind of teetered off cause what Um, it's not effects Does that make sense? It might have been on hulu put up an image of it so we can see it Old man and it's Jeffrey Bridges and he plays an old hitman That people fuck with the wrong guy. I loved it. They fuck with the wrong guy. It's one of them one of that movies or one of them shows I really enjoy the fuck with the wrong guy show That one's really good in the beginning. It's really good for a few episodes that I lost interest For whatever reason, but the beginning is it's worth the ride You know, I haven't seen it I haven't seen that one.

1:49:48I haven't seen that one but yeah, so he's uh he's there who else was there um I don't know In better. Yeah, well you have a lot of clubs there now like Vegas is a real scene now There was Jimmy Kimmel's club. I think is that still there? I think it's still there and then there's Brad Garrett's club. It's been there for a long time And then you have the seller that's there that's supposed to be really good. Yeah, I hear nothing with good things You have wise guys that's really good. Yeah, nothing with good things. Yeah You got the laugh that I actually at the chop. Yeah. Yeah, I mean that is a lot of comedy.

1:50:19Yeah, you know And if they're doing daily shows How many of those are they bringing in people for an entire week like a headliners? Is that how they're doing it for them? Yeah, sometimes they'll bring in yeah starting like on a Wednesday Yeah, well sometimes it's like on Monday. Yeah, look at some of the schedules I you know the last I don't want to say the last time I was at the the chop of cana but I remember A couple of years ago I was at chop of cana. Gallagher had like the uh He had the seven o 'clock spot. Oh wow. Yeah, remember Gallagher. Yeah sure. Yeah, he passed So yeah, I remember when his brother took over we came Gallagher to He quit then his brother started doing his act.

1:50:56Yeah, I want my act back They had some sort of a dispute over who gets to be Gallagher Yeah, he wasn't happy about it. Imagine Scott taking my act But just the idea that you could have a guy who kind of looks like you cuz he's your brother But everybody knows it's not really him right like how they still pay they still pay to see him And then when you say hey, I'm gonna do back go back to you stand up. You gotta stop doing that It's like fuck you bro. Yeah, like you literally gave this guy his whole career right yeah Unless there was maybe some legal work involved. Well, there's also there's also a lot of these lookalikes So like I saw um was it I think legends of Las Vegas like because I saw some of the shows I was there I saw a prince look alike and he was great like I'm fucking believable.

1:51:45I saw Rod Stewart look alike and I saw Rod Stewart and the look alike was better Well, the look alike meaning in a personator. Yeah, then impersonator. So like they sing them and the whole deal Yeah, it does the whole thing. I mean, I saw Rod Stewart Rod Stewart. It's amazing, but he's you know, he's you know Well, you know what happened with journey, right? I don't journey had um Steve What is his name Steve Perry Steve Perry retired from journey. Yeah, they got this young guy who used to do a journey Coverband who has the most insane imitation of Steve Perry his voice is incredible. I remember um So his name is uh Arnell Pineda I think my Pineda might be a Pineda And he's from the Philippines and this dude was just a fan, but gotta listen to it.

1:52:38Listen see if you can find one of them listen to this

1:52:44Thank you I mean, it's incredible

1:52:55Oh

1:52:59But he's so good like It doesn't bother you at all That's deep parry's not there. Maybe about the something else, but it's so good Wow Only world She took to midnight trade

1:53:25Just to see the point On our as a selfish road So if not trade He sounds exactly like the dude Wait till he hits the high notes

1:53:44When he really goes off like you're like this kid is fucking talented

1:54:29Oh

1:54:35Now here's the thing that's crazy. Look at that audience. Right. They don't care Not only that they're young wow There's a young people. Right. There's like new journey fans. Right Didn't they do this with Alison Chains too, right? I think this guy does he speak Like Filipina English Does he speak with an accent? Which is wild because he's saying perfect. Yeah, cuz he's is he Filipino or Yes, he's from the Philippines. That's why he's holding up that flag. Oh, wow. Didn't they do this with Alison Chains, right? Um Alison Chains

1:55:15Yeah Huh Is he in there talking is that on Oprah? I'm sure she must have a conversation with him There he goes Oh Whatever seems like you have at least a slight ask. Yeah, but actually play some Steve Perry give me a comparison Don't stop believing by Steve Perry. They were the original journey. We're gonna rock out, right? I think I think he's doing something slightly different. He's got his own spin on it and it sounds amazing for sure It sounds amazing But uh there was something about this dude because this dude wasn't very classically beautiful. Mm -hmm like a lot of rock stars. Mm -hmm You know, yeah Jesus I Mean that's the fucking guy dude.

1:56:09Bro. Yeah, that's it. That's a big one. We know the difference Now

1:56:22Did you ever get to see a lot of big hair bands back in the day when you're in the 80s? Not really man. Like big stadium bands like UFO or like the who or I saw Jay Giles band. Yeah, of course. I saw George Thurgood. Yeah, well, he says some Yeah, I saw Well, let's see I saw a couple other bands so the kids that I was hanging around with in high school like to go to concerts I got it. I was like what are you talking about? We're gonna go see live music. Yeah Um Johnny winter we saw Johnny This is Allison Chainsworth their new singer Oh wow Did you ever hear a fan of Allison Chains? I was so good Then look at that.

1:57:09Is this guy sound like him or is he doing his own thing?

1:57:18That's guitar player Come on

1:57:29Wow

1:57:35God damn

1:57:41Yeah

1:57:45But put on Lane put on a song on with Lane Lane stay. Yeah, we'll go to that But what's I do name? What does that do's name? He's great too. Yeah, he's great to yeah There's a lane was fucking magic all this guy. What is that gentleman's? William Duval William Duval. He's talented motherfucker. Yeah, look at Lane. No, dude Lane was the fucking man. Oh my god. It's a man. He was a man. I brought these guys on stage a couple times. I mean fuck dude

1:58:27This was my favorite band at a Seattle

1:58:59Him Put put them bones Put up the bones what I mean these guys them bones. It's a fucking jail. It's such a Horrific song too because you know this is this is this dude's talking about fighting heroin This fucking song rules

1:59:25So

1:59:47There you go. That's the big ol' palatham bones. I mean, yeah, the best.

2:00:00If you're listening to this on the treadmill, you will run faster put river of deceit mad season Do you know who that is? Yes, you do. I do. Yes, you do So mad season was a band that was brought put together with Lane from from Allison Chains and the guys from Pearl Jam It was a side project. I did not know about that. Yeah, mad season. Well, I hosted MTV. So of course I was in the loop on this shit. Check out this fuck check out his voice on this what year we talking about here This so so in the band was Pearl Jam Because those guys were all incest you all those bands up there the Seattle scene This is I love this song.

2:00:45This is beautiful Way too here is fucking the voice on this crank yet

2:00:55Maybe we should dim the light sprouts to some heroin. What do you think? I'm scared

2:01:21So these are the guys playing from Pearl Jam in the background

2:01:33It's self -cho, sir

2:01:44So that's the same guy from Alice It's Lane. Yep. Yeah, what a voice. Yes, so unusual. Yeah I don't know of them bones is about him fighting off heroin, but goddamn it seems like there's you know Yeah Mike star also was in the band he died as well him and Lane both died that heroin cultures strange culture the heroin musician culture is very very strange because it's it's very prevalent about amongst elite musicians You know in in terms of like you look at the guys that we we all worship like Hendrix did heroin Morris and most likely did heroin, right? Yeah Like Cobain did heroin you know Lane Staling did the guy from Blind Melon the lead singer blind melon.

2:02:34Yeah, he died of heroin I think too. Yeah, it's a it's so prevalent man. It's so prevalent. It's just like You know That's one thing you're like what isn't about heroin in music like I think there's probably a field to it I think I think it's a place they want to go So I think they're writing, but they feel like yo if I do this I can go even do another level like I I don't know I mean I can ask Jerry the guitar player He'd be a great guy to have on your show. Oh Jerry Jerry control Ask him how Lane came up with those lyrics. I don't know if there's something I think there's something to heroin And it's effects on people that we we're looking at it only in a negative way.

2:03:23I've never done heroin But I did do a morphine drip once when I had my niece her dream was amazing So I would imagine heroin feels fucking great But there was a guy that I knew that was a pool hustler. He was a like a big -time pool player in Connecticut in the East Coast and his his name was Waterdog that called Buffalo Bill or Waterdog And this guy was a heroin addict and he would go into the bathroom and he would shoot heroin and after he'd shot heroin he would sit on the bar stool like this He's still one of those billiards chairs. He would sit there like this Oh my god, I'm not kidding for like 15 20 minutes just sit there like this Wow, and then when he got out he couldn't miss a ball He couldn't he couldn't miss so he was gambling for thousands of dollars There was all these people yelling and screaming there was so much money involved because it was like this guy Who is like a local gambler George the Greek was playing against him and there was a lot of money bet being bet on this thousands of dollars And this fucking guy couldn't miss he had eyes like a shark like just like his pupils were fully dilated And he was just firing balls in like he could see where the ball was going with pinpoint position It was wild to watch and I was like what the fuck is going on with heroin?

2:04:32Like how how do so many musicians create amazing works of art with it? How does so many like Mitch Hedberg loved heroin? You know, he's like one of the funniest guys that's ever lived like what what is it about that drug? Maybe I should do heroin No, yeah, no I Definitely don't want to do it. I'm scared, but I would want I'm wondering like what is it? Are you scared because if you did it you'd really dig it? Oh, yeah I'd and then you want to do anything that I would really like that can eventually kill you right? You couldn't just like oh, I'm just gonna try it. No, it doesn't seem like a tri thing heroin seems like It's like what about coke have you ever done coke never done coke really?

2:05:15I'll never done coke no one believes that Which is very insulting because I tell the truth about everything But that is the one that I've I've waited it because when I was a kid I had a cousin a friend whose cousin was selling it in his Life fell apart now watch his life fell apart. I knew him before that and then watching him afterwards like fuck man Stay away from coke. Do you think if you did it you would you would want to do it some more? Are you just I'm sure I would love it. Yeah, I'm sure I'd love it. Yeah, I think everybody loves it There's like there's certain things that even you got a man's got to know his limitations You know stay away from things like coke What about also like Artistically, I'm not interested in anything that makes me more comfortable.

2:05:56I'm interested in things that make me less comfortable I'm interested in things that make me less secure. That's why I like weed because it makes you like analyze your behavior more You know and see the faults in your own stuff because you're kind of looking at things almost when you send my parents when you're right Do you smoke a duvet right before? Yeah, and what you're writing process depends on what time it is if It's at night, and I'm leaving a club. I won't smoke anything. I just am already probably a little high And I'll just sit in front of the computer and I just I just start writing Just start writing.

2:06:32Yeah, just try to find anything and all I'm looking for is like paragraphs that I can extract I'm looking for a premise and some of my best bits have come out of that just like forcing it and then once I Force an idea like get get something down Then I start dissecting it and chopping it up and they didn't get it to a place where I feel like this is funny enough I know where it's going enough that I can talk about it on stage and when and when you when you write you don't write for the Jokey right for the angle and the story right just write on a subject So just like so if I'm gonna write this is just one way I do it another way I do it is I'll come up with something funny and then I write it down on my phone I do that a lot too, but when I write it's like say if I'm gonna do something about caffeine I'll just sit and write about caffeine like if there's it's not really good subject But you know whatever the subject is there they think it's funny.

2:07:24I just start writing about it It's a look at it from all the different angles looking at from a silly angle looking at it from a haters angle Look at it from a lover. Look at it twisted up make it so like even though it's a ridiculous thing to say Maybe this is good for society. It just happens, you know and like have a funny ways to look at it and then I try it on stage And then when I try it on stage, I listen to it and I fuck around with it. You listen to it back. Yeah, I'll listen to it back or You know or I know what I said so I'll just go and work on it on the next set and try to find like another way to go in it Maybe maybe I'm missing something like sometimes the best version of a bit came from just a chance way of saying it a different way One night and I'm like oh my god so much better like you fixed it instantly.

2:08:11So do you have I don't want to say a team of writers But people back there you just have the audio. It's just my just me, but you remember it. Why record everything or everything on my phone Yeah, you recording this conversation. I record this

2:08:27We're in trouble So so what about observational versus personal As far as where your heads at regarding that I think you should think and and talk about what you're interested in thinking and talking about And right now what I'm interested in thinking and talking about is that this is a very bizarre disconnect between the people in this country and Why we tend to join groups and decide that the people in the other group are the bad people and we're the good people and we're gonna stop that The bad people and this is gonna be great for everybody like slow the fuck down Everybody that this is what I'm thinking about today because I've never been more concerned That we could be in a fucking nuclear war in my life than right now I'm never been more concerned about Whatever the fuck is going on and with Russia and Ukraine spilling over into the United States and causing chaos for everyone on the planet And death and destruction beyond our imagination the fact that that's on the table is so fucking crazy And he's not gonna stop this guy, right?

2:09:36Dude the whole thing is a mess. It's a mess. It's a mess with NATO moving into surrounding countries It's a mess where you know, you rush and vades Ukraine. It's a Is it so is it just about real estate? It's about many things it's so if you should I'm not the person to talk to you about this if you want to listen to Dave Smith talk about it He's very very knowledgeable and he can explain he could explain in detail How NATO started violating some sort of an agreement and they're moving their arms closer to where Russia is and Did specific people it specifically said that they were trying to get Ukraine to join NATO Ukraine join NATO that would be at the border of Russia an armed force of the whole world and It's just tactically It's if you're a general if you're a person who is a president or King of a country You're not gonna let somebody like pull right up on your fucking border like that with a new army attached to it Like why why do you guys need a new army?

2:10:41What do you plan on doing with that new army? Why are your fucking cannons pointing at us? You know, it's all bad. It's all bad, dude And it's all bad because the military industrial complex is a gigantic force of nature and power and money There's so much going on and it's a natural thing that happens when people get into power when people get into power If they have that kind of money they're making that kind of money one of the things that they absolutely are gonna do is They're gonna try to make As much money as they can with any situation that comes up now if you're in the business of telling jokes That's great.

2:11:17You're just gonna tour and do bigger arenas. Yeah, you're at this big place. Yeah, you're at this place More more seats more tickets, but if you're in the war business You you're just getting to the edge of no more civilization Like you're pushing things to the edge of what could happen today if someone's fucking crazy and someone is Dying already and someone is a dictator that literally has the ability to launch nukes on your last breath You could fagging And then it's chaos and the question doesn't become whether or not he shouldn't should have done that of course He shouldn't have done that The question could there have been steps that were made to prevent that from happening in the future And if those steps could be made they should probably be made because this is where we are This is this scares this shit out of me in a way that nothing in my life has ever scared the shit out of me Yeah, it's been it's It's the real deal.

2:12:14It's the real deal. Yeah, no real deal. It doesn't we did why are we involved in this? Why is anyone involved in this why are groups of people involved in this kind of conflict when the groups of people don't benefit That's what's weird. Well, I think that you know, you know, he he he you know We as Americans from my feeling is that we see these poor people get killed and We don't want to like have our guys You know like like Afghanistan go in there, but what here's some weapons because we feel bad for all your innocent people That are dying so you guys figure it out. That's a great way to look at it, right?

2:12:49Yeah, that's a positive way to look at it Like if you wanted to positively support the Well, that's a many money in America. That's America. That's what I think that he I think that Putin knew that going into it. He goes we're gonna we're gonna do this and I know America is gonna give these Guys money and it's gonna fuck up their economy could be I mean because our economy is pretty fucked up right now Yeah, but I think he would be fucked up anyway. I think these people are goofy. I Think you know, it's it's really hard to run a country and most people are very good at it Just just how it goes There's very few people that are actually good at it and it's very clear that this country is being run by a bunch of people other than just the president I mean, but I don't know how much say he has but it's a lot of other people are involved and they're not doing such a great job And they haven't made course corrections very good There's a lot of mistakes that have been made that didn't have to be made And that's just how it is It's just like it's not being run well and so you have to go well Who could do it better?

2:13:53Could it be a Republican or it could be a better Democrat? And if it's not a better Democrat like how are we gonna get a better Democrat if you don't let the president debate? So they won't let them debate because Robert Kennedy Jr. And what is that other woman's name? Marion Williamson Marion Williamson apparently they're they're both promising candidates for the Democratic Party But they won't let him debate before the primaries So it's like that's not that Democratic like that's not how it's supposed to do. Yeah, I Agree with you. I think both sides are fucked up. Yeah, I mean, I think both sides are it's all run by money man Yeah, like that's they let money into politics and people can profit off of decisions And it's a mess that you can't pull out of it's one of those things like once you've got that in there It's like you're not taking the pee out of the ocean kid.

2:14:41It's like that's it's in there You know fix in that. Yeah, and then the news organizations I mean I flip back and forth and when I was growing up it was just a news anchor Just reading teleprompter and basically just reading the news And now both sides have something to say and I never editorial us. Yeah, I never remember that and it's it's you know I watch it because I'm a comedian and I look at the comedy in it and I don't take it serious That's good Yeah, and and you know these news anchors they roll their eyes. They say shit and they're both way too far Left and way too far right well You're taking a real chance if you're running a corporate network and you have on people that are gonna give Opinions because you're gonna have people that just give the hot take of the day and Repeat things that everybody says and you know use phrases that they've heard on TV in the news and know that they have to hit certain Beats in order to be accepted and then you're gonna get people that are very arrogant about Enforcing their own personal ideologies and their sets and views of things and they'll argue with people in a very uncomfortable way Where you see people with differing opinions now on the internet in particular having Thoughtful conversations with each other even though they have different opinions.

2:15:58It doesn't have to It doesn't have to Devolved to this like stupid like name calling yelling game like why why are you calling to the names? Why insulting each other? Like is this getting anything done like can you keep it together as a human being? Do you have the character to keep it together? And so this like the way people communicate in these like short clips in these CNN things when you're watching people argue about stuff It's like my god is this a bad format for this and my god Are you guys bad at doing it in this format because it's like you're just Virtue signaling and complaining. It's like the the way you're interfacing with people.

2:16:36Yeah, I think it's all fake. I think the second The cameras are off. I think Tucker Carlson is super liberal Yeah, I think that Don Lemon is super Republican. I do I do really think that I don't like that But I do think that Tucker Carlson used to be a dead head Yes, I which is amazing. Yeah, he's from California is from Los or from Santa Monica, but but I think it's all entertainment. I think these guys are as narcissistic as the most actors that are in Hollywood Yeah, I think these news anchors the second that the cameras off. They're looking at their They're you know like anyone else. I think they're it's entertainment.

2:17:13They're just human beings At the end of the day they're just human beings and Everybody is subject to the same weirdness all of them. No matter what the profession is, you know, it's like The the job of being a news anchor so strange. You're distributing the news Hi, I'm Paulie Shore with the news today Putin learned that Ukraine said You're gonna And then you know that you don't know jack shit and you're just reading off a teleprompter And everybody comes to you and they want to take a picture with you at the restaurant. Hey, it's Paulie from the news Yeah, it's a fucking weird gig man You're a reader of the news.

2:17:58Yeah, and you have to do it in a fake way Yeah, well, there's a way to talk Paulie a way that settles people and calms their fears That's the way we prefer to talk here On K106. Yeah, you know who I loved was Brian Brian Williams Remember him. Yeah, that's San loved him. Yeah, he was good. I thought he was great He got in trouble because he lied about Iraq. Yeah, he lied about getting shot up Which yeah, but then that kind of went away a little bit Yeah, not the people that got shot at oh, okay. Yeah, they're not really interested in hearing from you anymore If you can just like make up a store, but the hell are you clean did that too, right?

2:18:40Didn't she like make up some or there was a dispute in her story? I just wish I just wish there wasn't a fox in the CNN I wish there was just a set news and just revo was on the news and it was the people to To decide what what they think yeah as opposed to giving opinions That's a my thought that's how it was when I was a kid the thing is it's like you don't really know these people very well So even when they're given their opinions, you don't know them very well. You don't really know them You don't really hear them, but they should probably have a disclaimer and say like yo, I don't know shit Yeah, I'm just reading what it tells me to read so please don't get mad at me My job is to read what's on there imagine I want you to imagine this Imagine if all of your interactions for the rest of your life would be like you Sitting on the couch of a talk show It would be you would go crazy.

2:19:33You would go fucking crazy Imagine if that's how you communicate for the rest of your life or if you only talk to people that talk to you like a news anchor Imagine that I want you to imagine if the only way they talked they talked like a politician giving a speech Polly what we can do for this country is different than when anybody could do for any other country And I'm here to tell you that with my commitment you'd be like dude. Yeah, fucking relax Speak normal. What are you doing? Yeah, imagine if that's how people talked forever you would go mad You would literally go insane. Yeah, like we we allow a certain kind of like Fake kind of thing Top 40 DJ boys.

2:20:20Yeah, imagine the only talked in top 40 DJ voices Polly Shore walking into the room ladies and gentlemen Polly Shore can be seen at the blah blah blah. Yeah, it's available now Yeah, yeah, it's a that's weird and then well then you know, and then we go back to what I said originally Which is the phones, you know before I always said that before the internet if you are a crazy person you could just Back in the day you would just you know be crazy and sit in the corner now if you're a crazy person you can actually Be crazy and I think that has a lot to do with it too. Yeah, you know people get to you know have their opinion You know when I was growing up I didn't know everyone wanted to be famous.

2:21:04I thought if you wanted I didn't I thought it was just New York in LA I didn't know people you know in Iowa would be like yo check out my cornfields dog You know what I mean? Yo check out my steak dude Like this guy who only gets hit in the balls. I have not Versailles that guy Jamie the big fat guy Yeah, what's his name? I don't know you're talking. Oh god damn it. I know I have it saved, but this dude Let me figure out who I sent it to because I sent someone recently send it to me this dude just keeps getting smashed in the balls And he's probably got a million followers, right? People love it.

2:21:43Uh, he probably does. Yeah god damn it. I'm gonna have to find it I definitely sent it to quite a few friends, but I don't know where it is this dude just gets hammered in the balls all the time He's a big fat guy with tattoos on his face So that's my point though. You see him played it before on here, but that's my point, right? It's like what's the homie's name? I have to find it. He's crazy. He's like missing his front teeth and he just gets kicked in the balls He's probably making bank. Yeah, I'm driving Ferrari Yeah, I didn't know that bro. He gets hit in the ball so hard. Yeah, so hard You're like you're gonna die.

2:22:19You're gonna die some just random people. Well, I'll show you multiple different kinds of people They hit him in the balls of the hockey puck watch this This dude is Canadian obviously and this dude is a serious hockey player. He's like he whips it in it. Oh my god He shot it right in Right in on the sack Bro This is four years ago. Okay, so he's been getting kicked in the balls for decades So his balls look like like cauliflower ears hold my fries. Is that a Canadian thing like hold my beer? This is Maybe it's all just like grab your dick. Yeah, this is what people want to see, right? There's a lot more brutal ones than that like him getting What did he get a I think got a golf ball?

2:23:06Oh my fries Okay I Didn't got a golf ball whacked into his balls and a bunch of other stuff too, but yeah Yeah, and there you go. You can make it there

2:23:23Yeah, it's some you know Yeah, you can do it a lot of different ways now and I think that's the big change You could do it a lot of different ways and there's people that become famous for TikTok and Instagram and all these different things and YouTube and podcasts and you know, there's always going to be movies because movies are fun. They're entertaining There's always going to be television shows because people like to watch television It's just they have to adjust to a different time, you know But if you don't want to do that anymore as a comic you don't have to do that anymore Because it used to be that you had to do that if you wanted to do comedy because if you didn't get a sitcom People wouldn't come to see in the clubs because they wouldn't know who you are, right, you know Yeah, like someone had to find out who you were you had to either get a special on HBO or you'd have to do the Tonight show with Johnny back in the day Yeah, there's there to be some way.

2:24:13What do you think I think I thought our what R .A. did was great with his special Yeah, that was amazing. Yeah, but I thought just I love how R .A. just says fuck it You know any mean says I'm gonna do something completely different. Yeah, you know, and I thought that just About it for a long time. Yeah, worked on that set for a long last time. Yeah, but I just love that he um You know said fuck everyone. I'm just gonna do it myself. And he paved the way. I mean big Jay Okerson did it right a lot of people have done that Well, I think you know for him and a lot of a lot of his success came out of that as well And I I think I think you know The internet is a great thing for guys like me especially Because you know if I'm not getting a movie offer if I'm not getting a TV offer and I'm going on stage I'm touring.

2:24:55I still want to do other shit Yeah, and so for instance I can do a YouTube I could do Instagram do all my stupid videos. So I think it's a good thing. Oh for sure Yeah, no, it's definitely you know It's definitely good and it's a good thing for several reasons It's a good thing to get your stuff out there, but it's also a good thing to to be stay creative Because in the old days if you come up with an idea you'd get it develop it and it takes a long time Yes, now you come up with an idea you could put it out the next day Yes, and I love that. That's what's great about YouTube You know, so I could put my stuff right out on YouTube.

2:25:26I could do videos on there No, and I think it's cool. Yeah, I think it's cute. It's huge Yeah, and it's also it's great that comics can just be free and Then I attach to this thing that can't accept them if they have jokes about this or that or anything or the Controversial or they swear too much. It doesn't matter anymore Like now with podcasts are a completely new industry that is as big as television is if not bigger So a bad thing is a good thing. Yeah, it's not even a bad thing It's just a changing thing and you give people access like this to something that's you know Where you could pause it any time you want watch it whenever you want like a regular talk show.

2:26:04It's clunky It's clunky. Doesn't work that good. Whereas if you were you know You're imagining where it's going to go. It's probably gonna go to some completely unexpected place next Like nobody saw a podcast coming right nobody thought this was ever gonna be a big thing So it's probably something like that. That's gonna be coming next and you'd have to like predicted based on it Have to be like you'd have to analyze like lifestyle things and like you have to figure like what would what new kind of Technology would interface with people like how would people How would people enjoy something in a new way?

2:26:43I don't know what the answer to that is But what whether it's virtual reality or augmented reality, but when that comes along It's also when when when you go to a nightclub and you see a you know back in the day when when you go to a nightclub You'd like people would be up dancing and now you go to a nightclub people are staring at their phones You know, so if you want to talk to a girl you can't really because they're staring at their phone That's why I think it'd be cool to have some sort of You know, or you kind of can can can High jack and go into someone's phone if you're like in a like a match Like you you an airdrop them a picture and say you airdrop them an invitation to look by a drink.

2:27:19Yeah, by a drink Can you do that? When you have you an airdrop a airdrop a face -time? Request that'll be a fun. That would be cool Like imagine some babe. Yo imagine some babe is like, you know You want to talk to the babe, but she's staring at her phone and you want to you want to buy her a drink And you're like you just airdrop your video and then you're like yo babe. I'm right here. Let me buy you Thought that's a terrible idea. That's a terrible idea. I just thought about that because I'm a guy Like if I was a girl, that would be a terrible idea. You just be getting dicks airdrop Yes, so all over the bar scenario where it'd be good, but everyone has to be on the same page.

2:27:55Yes, that's a very good way of putting it Jamie And then there's the dating apps Whatever the fuck is next our phones is gonna make phones look like a typewriter. Yes, right? Whatever's next is gonna be some mind -changing shit like literal mind -changing like some Some sort of a neural interface something real next level where it's gonna just you're not I mean they were talking about having Like a portal to the internet that's like connected to your brain all the time What does that look like? What does that seem like? Well, you can put in you could put in like something in here And you go open the door like that now.

2:28:32Yeah, yeah I know no, I have a guy. I know that it goes to his office and he puts like some chip in there And he goes like this in the door opens. Oh, okay. Yeah, so he has like a key fob Yeah, we have key fobs like that that do that. Yeah, it's inside your hand, right? Yeah, you know Well, it doesn't have to be I was already talking about like an implant. Yeah. Oh, you're talking about implant I thought you meant a ring. No, like actually inside they make you wear a chip ring Like with the like the logo of the company on it. Keep your ring on 24 7 even when you shower Yeah, your ring breaks will get you a new one, but you are a proud employee of Wal -Mart You'll keep that Wal -Mart You'll fucking Wal -Mart ring What you don't get to do with dogs don't you do that with the dog people dogs that work at Wal -Mart?

2:29:19You son of a bitch. No, you hear what he said your dog. I have a dog I have a chip in my dog so my dog gets lost or if you dog it's it's actually for your dog It's picked up at the pound. Oh, so the pound can scan it and they get your you're gonna like a head of lettuce Yeah, yeah, and they've if you have a chip in there and then they go, okay We've we probably we found your dog, which is nice. That's nice. That's very cool. Yeah, so while that's time Yeah, it's gonna get wilder. This meets you Kaku interview that I did yesterday We're talking about Quantum computing and what that means and what they're gonna be able to do as they get better and better and better It's like holy shit He's like there's a giant revolution.

2:29:59It's gonna change the world and it's about to happen What did he say? Well, there's a there's a competition right now between Microsoft and IBM and Google and China and they're all trying to be the first to develop a real quantum computer They already have a couple that they've devised but they are they're only Designed to do very specific tasks. They don't have like an artificial general intelligence quantum computer But when they do so what's that gonna be? It's that whoever figures it out first There's a mad race right now between these giant corporations and between the country of China and They're in the middle of this battle to see who wins this and whoever wins this likely has technological superiority over the entire world because these things will be able to crack any kind of code that anybody has any Encryption, it'll be able to crack everything.

2:30:53So what's it? What's it look like or what's it gonna? What what is this guy's vision of what he thinks that's gonna look like? Well, what it looks like now is like some super fucking science fiction He's space shit. It looks like all these crazy golden coils that are are wrapped around this one smaller device and the smaller device is this computer is this quantum computer all that other stuff is just the cooling mechanism for the computer It's see can you pull up an image of it would whatever Mecho Kaku put on yesterday. It's the craziest shit because you look at it and you go. Oh my god That looks like a science fiction movie.

2:31:31Mm -hmm. Look at that thing or or a Brewery in Iowa

2:31:38Welcome to the golden tap. Yeah, wow look at that thing though all that stuff on the top is all cooling and that small box at the bottom With that blue light on yeah, that's the computer. So all that other stuff is and that's your friend. No, no, no, that's not my friend That's the CEO of Google Mecho Kaku is the The guy who was the guest yesterday. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that guy is one of the people that's involved That's the CEO of Google. They're they're doing their own quantum computer and IBM is I think as well So this is so this is to to basically hack in everything What that is is going to develop a computer what they're eventually going to be whatever version of it What it whatever it looks like when they get it done there?

2:32:23It's going to be a computer that can operate like a million times or more powerful than any computer that's ever existed. Wow I think that's correct statement. Is that right? It's not it's not incorrect But I just I do want to correct you on one tiny thing this little pic on the picture here Yeah, that what you're seeing there. That's like a router behind the machine. Oh So that's not the computer at the bottom little box that he was sort of trying to explain like it's like oh It's right about this. It's just covered up by everything. Oh, okay. I see I see I see okay So that little so it's even smaller.

2:32:56Yeah, yeah, yeah, well like a microchip a little bit bigger than a microchip Really yes, the computer itself is a little bigger than a microchip I'm that's I'm trying to it's bigger than a microchip you know, but like a CPU compared to it a PC tower Right, it's kind of like that like this is like the tower cooling device right for more of like a CPU that's probably like So how big is the chip I'll try to find Wild, so this is a little chip like this Joe. Oh my god. Look at it. It's not even that big. Jesus. I don't know that computer bro What the fuck that's really fit That's really fits into like it's gonna fit into your computer No, that is going to be the computer.

2:33:37Wow. That's what's the way you stick it all their stuff. It's they instead of So instead of doing things with ones and zeros. I'm gonna fuck this up. I'm sure they're they're computing with atoms and they're they're doing their computation in atoms and These computations are happening in multiple you universes simultaneously I'm gone, right? You say that. I'm like, I don't know what you're saying like I'm just I'm repeating his words like it's too confusing He's saying that they're happening. So that's the size of it. Look at that Tell me if they found that and you said we developed we've found a Computer that is one million times stronger than anything that exists here on earth This must be from another planet Like look at that guy holding that up in his hand go back to that image of him hold again If he said that was recovered from a crash UFO and Roswell, New Mexico in 1947 this is the answer to all of our worries if we can get this attached to the proper cooling It will be one million times more powerful than any PC that's ever existed That's like that's a scene in the watchman or something, right?

2:34:44You know, I picture them doing the same thing but finding an iPhone that doesn't have power You're like if we could just Write this on we don't even know what that means. Yeah, but then cell phone towers are out and there's no A device like that. I mean like specifically, right? Imagine if they get past this whole cell phone thing And develop something that uses the earth As a method of transmitting messages back and forth the energy of the solar something I don't know like sending something through the air That is powered by that very air like like Instead of using a 5G signal use the signal of the earth itself Imagine if that becomes a thing Imagine if there's a way that you can Like instead of like sending things from tower to tower which is insanely impressive What if you were literally able to connect Just human beings device device with no network They're so powerful that just like you can air drop someone something on a plane You know, even if they're the there's no Wi -Fi or nothing Imagine if your phone just connects to other phones Like just does it some other way doesn't need a 5G signal That doesn't seem it's so crazy that they could do it already It's so crazy that they can send a video through the air and you can get it a second later That's nuts.

2:36:05Well, you remember when we 20 years ago and you try to download videos. Oh, yeah That took a long time. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, it took forever even pictures. I was in a picture. Yeah Yeah, it was interesting because when Napster hit you know you're like you're trading music people are sharing music and and all that And then you're like well people people in the movie and TV business are like hey well at least we're not gonna get That's not gonna happen to us and then shortly after that Yeah, people are sending you know copies of movies remember when like spider -man came out or something and they're like oh We got you know a A copy and we're sending it all over the internet.

2:36:43Yeah, or what I don't know if it was spider -man, but I'm you know me Yeah, that happens all the time movies they get leaked. Yeah, but when it first started to happen Well, when it first really started fucking people up with Napster that freaked people out Yeah, they can download entire albums for free. Yeah, everybody's like wait. Yeah, what's going on? Yeah, you know, and that that boy you want to talk about a disruptive force in an industry Oh, that changed everything. Yeah, that was a big deal You can't sell records anymore. I had Paul Stanley on the podcast and then he's Never about it. He doesn't like it at all.

2:37:19Yeah, he was saying it's stealing

2:37:25Yeah, I mean stealing as I steal a record But the digital recording like that's like we used to always record off the radio You remember that when you were a kid you were in cordon cassettes off of the radio. Yeah, but that's okay Because it doesn't sound that good. Well, yeah, nobody tried to stop that and there was no distribution method Which is stop a an AI Sam kidness an album from being made right? I would not I would not You know what it's like that biggie two -pock thing that we played yesterday, which is hilarious We played Michio Kaku. We played Notorious B .I .G. doing nozz lyrics. Okay, and like he was you could tell he his eyes glazed over Just like me talking about to him about quantum physics.

2:38:06I feel like they'll have a Sam kennis and one you guys know what that was like You would have to yeah, you would have to write material that's worthy I thought I'd point you guys would listen to it like this kind of sucks But you could play it for a kid me like that's actually I love this. This is awesome You guys don't know what it was like though To rewrite kennis and you'd have to rewrite kennis in the context of when he was hot in like the 80s You'd have to write more material from back then because if you wanted to rewrite kennis and he doesn't have cultural references Like how would he know what the fuck is he we know he's dead you trained chat gpt with some new Tick -tock references some new commodity and then also and you go like and I'll tell this in the voice to Sam kennis and not only that Tell if Sam kennis him was alive today And in the form of a kidness from 86.

2:38:52Yeah, that's it. Right. That's right. It could happen and someone will do it now that we've just a very good point It's a very good point. Yeah, I was thinking like you that like it's almost like if I wanted to see Hendrix play If I wanted to see if I wanted to go to a VR version of a Hendrix concert I would want to be in some fucking 1967 concert where the floors muddy and there's this dirty hippies around And you know and he's playing live in some club. That's what's it what's it called holograms holograms hologram. It did that like fizz out. Yeah, I'm fizz out What about nfts of that fizz out, too?

2:39:35Oh, in fact, I'm gonna be up my okay great. Yeah, um, but you know what I'm saying? The hologram phased out with two pock two pock was too jacked people got upset Yeah, I know like enough with the hologram, but it's also weird. Do you feel weird? Um, I don't know if you feel weird But I feel weird about it when you go to a concert not obviously your concert, but a normal um concert like a music concert everyone is filming the act everyone is going like it's normal and back when I was growing up like I I I saw the rolling stones. I saw the clash open for the rolling stones at the It was at the coliseum and I did a bad thing because I was obsessed with the rolling stones I took my little tape recorder and I actually recorded You know, I pirated it or whatever it's called where you tape it and I drove to school on my bike And I listened to it and I came in my pants because I was obsessed with You know Mick Jagger back in the 80s, you know, it's just like fuck Isn't it crazy when you look at him in the 60s?

2:40:34Yeah But I was just like this is amazing, but you know people do that now like it's no big deal And the and the artist just let it happen Like I don't think there's anything they can do about it. I know there's nothing you could do about it It's information. I mean, but you guys did something about I know Bruno Mars puts puts the the in the bag Yeah, that's good. But what I'm saying is just like just with Things that are on the internet if you have some sort of recording on the internet or It's like this world is just too strange when it comes to digital what is that this is at the heat? Yeah, he recorded his own concert, right?

2:41:09No, so this story happened recently that Coachella happened Over the weekend or like the last two weekends this artist named Frank Ocean his Set was not streamed live on YouTube like most of the other ones were But a fan found online Like 450 videos of his concert and spent a lot of time editing him together and made the entire show available Like the hour and 20 minutes set available through fan found footage online And now is being sued immediately by a Coachella for something you can't do this But he wasn't even there

2:41:45It's a little bit of an issue and he like he went into saying I think when he found like right away. They interviewed him. He said I'm still I'm gonna leave it up And then they contact him again. He's like, okay, actually I'll take it down off my website He was I think he had it available on like Google Drive and a few other places people to download But now it's just out there. He's like it's great. The people have it. You're never gonna sound this from being seen. It exists Why couldn't he put it out there? He's he was only at a festival There is like when you buy that ticket, you know, you're buying you it's a contract Right for the people that were there.

2:42:16They were breaking that contract by filming it. Oh my god But everybody's doing yeah, yeah, that's where it becomes a very everybody's taking photographs and everybody's filming Everybody see boys do that a long time. I think they were the first ones. They did it on purpose. Yeah, that was like Yeah, they they told actually it's kind of cool. Yeah, I know this is fucking dope That's insane and I bet it's dope, but look how is Coachella losing anything on that? Why would they want to sue some right? I don't understand Yeah, they know people have phones and they know they're recording I'm not only that if that's the source of it It's just fan creative videos and someone creatively edited them to probably a dope video to you He downloaded 450 videos and he used like 150 of them to make the video a hero Yeah, it's great.

2:43:00He's gonna get probably hired to do other stuff now. I wanted to shoot at the mothership pro I should it set up. We haven't set up for filming you could film there great Yeah, that was part of the thing. It's great putting it together. Yeah, yeah That's one of the reasons why I want to change the the curtain to the other curtain. I like that current looks better Yeah, no, I remember you said that. I think that's that's that's cool. I'm excited to have you there, dude When you hit in the road soon you got any dates to plug um, I'm all I'm never stopped I will never stop touring beautiful till I'm you know George Burns's age.

2:43:34I'm always to stand up So I'm just always on the road beautiful. Yeah, I just love it um Social media forever. Yeah, just polyshore .com Austin, Texas Wednesday, May 3rd comedy mothership. Whoa. Yeah, we sold that out. That was cool. Beautiful Yeah, so I'm here. I'd like to come here more often. You know, I'm here more for sure for sure You should and all these gigs are up Portland helium. That's a great fucking club Fucked up city, but that's a great club Las Vegas Hartford, Connecticut Albany, New York. Yeah, and I also have this This is my new album. This is cool. It's called polyshore in the crusties Do you want to put up put up my YouTube for a second?

2:44:17I have an album. Yeah, we're we're releasing this on my website Polish music is it's just all covers. It's great. Let's turn it around. Look at the covers Yeah Okay, let's listen to number two whole lot of love Is that available? What's available on YouTube? Just what do you have read me? Okay, let's go with that Look at this is my band. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So this is called polyshore in the crusties Oh my god. Where are you guys in my garage in Vegas? That's hilarious

2:44:48So your neighbors are out there watching you perform. Yeah, you have a crowd in the street people drive by but most people They keep moving. This is the house that next door to Nicholas Cage Or remember what but Nicholas Cage is super thrilled about you bringing all your attention to his neighborhood. Yeah And we might bring you here later. So we call him little baby Larry David Yeah, we might rape you so go over there. Here we go people at home. If you know the song you're welcome to sing it

2:45:29You Look at you with the slides on

2:45:35Okay

2:45:39What the fuck you do. I'm having fun. It looks like you're having fun. That's what it's about. I got it So yeah, we also have polyshore is dead. That's on the 20 -year anniversary. Is this year nice polyshore is dead So that's on my YouTube. So I got a lot of stuff on my YouTube Um, I'll see you tomorrow night. Yeah, thanks for having fun. Thanks for being here peace out peace out live

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