#1982 - John Hennessey

50:06Then they put on another event Yeah And the other event got fucking huge And then Chuck Ladell came onto the stage Yes And when Chuck Ladell was the champion Chuck Ladell was so fucking terrifying Yeah He was this do or die berserker He would just come at you Just swing in bombs Take one of the chin Knock dudes out His fights were wild He didn't give a shit He was the real reason Why the UFC became uber popular Because you would watch The ultimate fighter It was a wild fight A great fight But then you need a destroyer You need a destroyer And that destroyer was Chuck Ladell And for the run Where he was at the top Where Chuck Ladell was just Merking people So he was kind of like the Michael Jordan in that He basically took the sport to another level Well you know he was He was an exceptional champion Okay But I wouldn't say he was the Michael Jordan He was just...

50:57He had the most fan -friendly style You could ever imagine He would just come after Duke And smash people Like he was never trying to win decisions Chuck Ladell was trying to send you into the dream world Okay So he was in there He was an entertainer He was very... He was Maximus the... Yeah When he would throw his arms back like this Yeah It was crazy See if you get a video of Chuck Ladell knocking someone out And then celebrating Because it was like this iconic Primal rage celebration And when you know You can only fight like that for so long Sure Here's the reality Take the toll A physical damage on the body And the kind of sparring that you have to do To fight like that Yeah But when he did it My God it was glorious His fights when he knocked out T2 or T's like Oh my God He was a monster He was a monster Yeah He was just smashing people And he was a really good wrestler too So good luck taking him down Wow Yeah So this is...

51:56I mean this is Chuck With a fucking mohawk Yeah I mean look at this Fucking savage dude Oh my God Look at this Look at this Look at him Look at this celebration Bro I'm telling you When Chuck Ladell was in his prime He was one of the most terrifying Fucking human beings It's ever walked the face of the earth Wow You can't do this for that long There's only so many years A man can do this for like this But my God Chuck Ladell was so fucking entertainer He was a destroyer man He would just come at you Look at this shit He's so terrifying looking Tattu on his head Mohawk Built like a brick shit house Just throwing fucking hammers Who's the destroyer Who's the up and coming destroyer today Oh do you see that Bob Balloon knockout So back that up Again This one was insane Oh With a leg Dude He would do that to everybody He was just smashing people Wow Yeah he didn't know what defense is He's pure offense all the time Well he had defense but he didn't He just he fucking threw caution to the windman Wow The guy just came after people And he was so mean But that also made the UFC Because that guy being at that was the figurehead That was the big guy He was the face of the company Because he was the guy that like If you the casual fan When you're talked to him Like if you've seen the Chuck Ladell fight You're gonna see the Chuck Ladell fight Yeah So that like That also took the sport to the next level So from throwing newspapers To stand up To pool To New York Then Hollywood UFC interviews What what Motivated for podcasts You were so far ahead of your time on that Well I wasn't really There was other people that were doing it at the same time They like Adam Crowe Already had a podcast Mark Marin Already had a podcast There was quite a few people that were doing it Maybe your style just just stuck and grew Well it's just I think I got into it because of radio really So like doing like opian anthony show mostly You did radio for a while then Oh yeah everybody did And when you do radio in the morning Like the opian anthony show in particular You'd go there and you would hang out with comics So it was all just us shooting the shit Having a great time And when I would leave there I'd go, God that's so fun I love doing that I wish I could do that all the time Okay Alright And Anthony Cumia Who was Anthony from opian anthony He built a studio in his basement of his house in Long Island And he used to do a show called Live from the Compound And he had like a green screen behind him He played karaoke with a machine gun He was always hammered It was hilarious but he would just stream it on the internet And I was like that looks like so much fun Maybe I should start doing something like that And so then I went to Tom Green's house And Tom Green He had this crazy setup Might have went to Tom Green's house before Anthony had his thing In the same time But Tom Green had like the Tom Green show That he was doing from his house So he was doing like a talk show And he set up his whole house like a television studio That's on the internet So he had all these cables running to a server Excuse me, a server room And so I thought like, wow maybe I should do something like that Like there's something to doing something on the internet Like maybe a lot of people aren't going to see it But it'll be fun Yeah, sounds like your motivator was sort of fun Not trying to grow some big audience or make a bunch of money To at least start with Even I do it the exact same way now as I've always done it I just do it all myself Like in terms of like who I want to have on I decide what day they're coming on And how to do it And I only talk to people that I'm interested in talking to I mean the depth of what Like you could have like your own Rogan and Cyclepedia books But all these people that come on That a lot of people never heard of And have all these interesting facts and opinions And I find it fascinating Learn some stuff Yeah You know you definitely, I mean you could talk to some I've had this like unexpected education Where you get to talk to all these fascinating people And pick their brains Yeah And you know it's like you don't really get a chance to talk to people Just like this Like just you and me looking at each other I know phones, no people around Right Just for a conversation That's it, that's all I'm trying to do And to be able to do this like all the time It's just, it's a real pleasure It's like very, it's very fortunate to do this for you But it just seems like it's your own personal curiosity On different things that you like And or that you're interested in Whereas it seems like you know you flip on TV The people that get interviewed It's all part of some sort of a, it's all by design To some degree Yeah You got the right PR firm, the right publicist There's also with those things the problem is you know just like With the fear factor Like you have to hire somebody You have to hire hosts Okay, yeah So if it's Fox News or if it's CNN They have the hire hosts Right And sometimes those people are annoying And sometimes they're not annoying when you hire them And then become annoying as they get more popular and famous And then you got to fire them So like when you do this you have to prep much You get on the internet, you guys do a little bit of research for you Or you just fucking roll in and just start thinking and talking Well I do have a guy, my friend Matt Stags Who does some research for me on some things He'll send me some briefings or some videos or some stuff I should watch Right And then you know with people that have books I like to, especially if it's something like complicated I like to listen to the book on audio So I'll listen to the song, listen when I'm driving Right I'll get a sense of what they're doing But and then there's some subjects that I don't have like with you It's like we're going to talk cars Yeah, yeah I just have, I'm just curious Well it's just been very fascinating for me I mean we've known each other for a couple of, ever since you got to Texas two and a half years ago So like that Just you know the more I get to know you like You ruined me with that fucking rapper Well yeah That's what we do, right?

57:39Keep him coming back, right? That thing was ruined, man I was like this is crazy Yeah What have you done? Yeah, yeah By the way, have you experienced the rapper are yet? I have not It looks amazing The hard to get the expensive But we're working on a thousand horsepower packets for the last rapper 1000 So we compete with the mammoth Well Yeah I'll keep you posted on that You know what I really miss about the Raptor? Yeah The visibility It's way you can see out of the what side mirrors way better Yeah The TRX is rough The TRX is rough The Ford's got the aluminum body and chassis I mean I think both trucks are a hoot Oh I love the TRX It's just the visibility It's the only issue I have with it It's an amazing truck Yeah I fucking love it Yeah I love what Dodge did and I really love what you did too what Dodge did Like the extra power They gave us a good platform and a break upgrade package So you put on it Yeah It's a big difference It's fucking magical I love that thing But the visibility from the Raptor was way better Yeah Yeah I mean The design with the F -150 where they have it There it is Yeah And so that's got the supercharged 5 .2 liter V8 That's in the TT500 And we should have our prototype up running soon I like the name better too Yeah I have a problem with the name mammoth Okay I love the truck What a problem What tell me Because it used to be a Tyrannosaurus Rex and changed it into a lesser animal Well I guess yeah I guess the T -Rex could eat it Could eat it Yeah I can't have that A woolly mammoth I never thought about that way I wish we talked Yes That's what Next time we're doing a branding exercise You'll be the consultant that I could never afford to hire You can't well I'll just do it for free But you can't have like a dinosaur Yeah The whole reason why the TRX is because it kills the Raptor Right Of a little bitch ass velociraptor Just fucking with the Tyrannosaurus Rex It's over So that's the whole idea And then you turn it into like something that like people kill with sticks Yeah so I said what So what People let them out with sticks Yeah pretty much Yeah That's funny And then probably the asteroid did it Yeah Yeah So other than that I love it I told you I saw one in Vegas Yeah It was orange Yeah yeah yeah And that orange It's like whole That was an orange Yeah Never thought I wanted to drive an orange car in my life I mean out They're hard to get but we can get them They got yellow now too Do they have yellow Yeah Called Rampage yellow Yeah My friend Tony has a yellow C8 Corvette Uh huh Tony Hinch glove Yeah He's out Tony Sure He has one with yellow with black stripes That's fucking awesome Yeah I was like I never thought I'd like a yellow car Yeah We actually just came out with a 700 horsepower super church package for the C8s We've only been working on it for almost three years but just finished up a few months ago How much better is the handling on the Z06 with the wider body and the wider tires Yeah I mean the Z06 is lighter, it's got aero carbon brakes, carbon wheels or options I've only driven, so our chief development driver was with GM for 38 years his name is John Heinrich, we call him Heinrocket He's our chief engineer and development driver for the Venom F5 And so he just got his new Z06, C8, Z06 with the Z07 package so you've got the cup Two Michelin tires Oh And the carbon splitter and rear wing and I just drove it on the road but I think if you took him to Coda, both bone stock, I'm guessing you're 10, 12 seconds of lap difference, I mean just massive Now if you drag race, some of you of course the Z06 is going to win by, you know, in the quarter mile would probably win by five or six car links but the problem with the Z06 now is they've been having supply chain issues, I've got an early one in order but I think the car's been out for nine months and there's only about, there's less than a hundred with the Z07 package on the road So cool car, you know, I hope to get mine and a lot of bang for the buck, I think that that would, I almost like in the new C8 Corvette almost in any form, well the Z06 to kind of like the 458 Ferrari is kind of where it was Do you think it's possible to make a car like a Corvette with entirely American parts in American labor, entirely?

1:01:36Look, American, American LEMs can do whatever they wanted to And I think what Chevrolet's magic has been with the Corvette is to deliver that much value and that nice of a car in the volumes that they do at the price point that they do Yeah, it's crazy when you think about how much that car costs and the capability of it Just the bone stock stingray Yeah, I mean like that, like I'm sure the, so the Z06 is out now likely the next iteration that comes from Chevy's, the ZR1, probably 850 horsepower, twin turbo, so it's like a twin -tobor version of the 5 .5 liter dual overhead cam motor in this current Z06, that car's going to be 150, 170 grand, so that car will be as fast or faster than a McLaren or Ferrari that costs two or three times the money, so they, you know, their trick is they know how to deliver a great value.

1:02:21Now we've got a neat, we've got a neat niche where we can build our own car from the ground up, it's all carbon fiber, it's all completely bespoke, it's American design, American build, but that car's two to three million bucks a pop, you know, GM are the masters of being able to scale it in masses, so average people or someone, average working folks can afford to buy them. Yeah, when you're in that car, you're like, what is this cost? Yeah, well the sticker on them, like my friend, Heinrock, it's, I think he paid 160, you know, you try to find one on the street that you can buy. You mean a Z06?

1:02:56I was talking about the Venom. Oh, I'm sorry, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's, it's, it, but look, the Venom F5, what's cool about that is I'm 60, maybe I'm around another 25 years, maybe I'm not, I don't know, but I think I would like to see, you know, I'd like to have ultimately, when we're all done with production, I'd love for each one of my five kids to have one if I'm able to do that. Anyway, I'd love to see, you know, our grandkids sell at it, you know, buried jacks or RM auctions at some point down the road for, you know, four or five X, you know, maybe, like a McLaren F1, like it'd be $20 million some day.

1:03:28I respect that you can drive that on the street. I respect that you can drive it. But you really should drive that only on track. I mean, it's like, when you're in it, you're like, yeah. Yeah, we even like more drive, like we, you know, drive in, if you sell of your test supply, I drove mine up here, you know, the performance of the things capable of you, you should not use on the street, you know, sometimes there might be a place where, you know, you could go out and just have fun with yourself or your buddy, but, but yeah, same thing. I mean, they have five, you know, go, you know, forget about 0 to 60, 0 to 60 is a metric from 60 years ago.

1:04:00Let's talk about 0 to 200. You'll go to 0 to 200 miles and 110 seconds, a hair under 10 seconds. It's as fast as, or maybe a tiny bit faster from 0 to 200 miles as compared to a modern formula, the one car. Jesus Christ. Yeah, it's powered away ratio wise. So, but it's built in America. You know, our guys just 100 miles down the road building from here. And I think they'll be very collectible someday. So, we'll see. How many are you going to make? So, we built 24 Vitamuff 5 coupes. Those are all sold out. We're now producing the roadster and the revolution. The roadster, open top, go out sunny day, have fun.

1:04:36The revolution is more track focused. Now, it's like our GT3RS. It's a track focus car, but it's still road legal, has AC and all the comforts that you would, as Apple CarPlayer. Where track focus in that car? No, that is the track focus version. Yeah, no. So, we're doing 24, though. So, we're going to build all in about less than 100 cars, 99 cars. I think right now we're like I said, 36, 37 orders. And anyway, the cars are taking the build one of those. 12 to 15 months. And is it, how much of it is carbon fiber? Like 100%. 100%. Yeah, I mean, all the bodywork, all the chassis, all carbon. Everything.

1:05:17Yeah, there's some aluminum and some steel substructure. But everything's carbon. Wow. Yeah. So, there it is. That's the roadster. That one, that particular, the blue car belongs to a guy named Dave Linniger. You want to talk about a wild man. Let me see what the side image looks like, what it looks like with the roadster. Wow, that's pretty. Linniger found a Remax real estate way back when. Anyway, that's his car. That's my head of design. Nathan Maloneck. But, you know, this is one of these deals to where, if I knew today, if I knew back then, what I knew today, I don't know if I would have done it.

1:05:50Maybe I'm a little bit like you walking into the dojo. I'm kind of, you ever see those guests where it is? You ever see the guests where the guys have the telephone pole and their bus is something of the balls with it? Uh -huh. You know, I think that, like, I didn't know what I was biting off when I went down this road. But when I started in 2013, it was just kind of an idea and a sketch. And then I got interested in it. And then we built the design model. Shell helped us build a design model. We unveiled it at Steam in Vegas in 2017. And then I had orders. And I'm like, now I've got orders. I've got a design.

1:06:17I've got an engineer this thing. Dude, that thing looks so good. It's such a beautiful car. That roadster one. That blue one. Oh, my God. It's so beautiful. Well, in the sound. What did you think of the sound? We're just out here ripping down the road. It's very rough. Yeah, it's very raw. So it's that 6 .6 liter twin turbo V8, push rod V8. Uh, we've nicknamed the engine Fury. So ask me why we named the engine Fury. Why? No journalist has ever asked me this question in the automotive world. So we named it Fury because the car is designed to compete against Europeans, but the best from Europe. So Bigotty, Asin Martin for our Gordon Murray.

1:06:55And so one time, like we're developing the engine, and I think we had, our target was 1600 horsepower. We managed to get a little over 1800. And I'm watching reruns on TV with my wife. My wife's asleep. And it was a Brad Pitt movie, Fury. So it's a scrappy tank guys. They're over in Germany. And their tanks all busted down. And here comes two, three hundred Germans. And they basically fought them to the death. You know, like scrappy Americans that they were. So I thought, I'm going to fucking name my engine Fury. Because it's designed to go over and fucking beat the Germans. Scrappy American. We'll see.

1:07:30That's what we haven't done yet. But we're working on it. I love it. Yeah. So is that a car that you could enter into races? Like would you consider racing? We've had customers ask us, would we be interested in building a dedicated race car? And it's something we haven't made a decision on. But the answer, I leaned towards, you know, generally, you want to build a faster car. Well, hell yeah. If somebody wants to buy it, I'll build it. But then the question becomes, we have to kind of go two directions. Do we want to just build a fun, like something taken to the circuit of the Americas that our customer can do out and have fun with?

1:08:04Or do you want to conform to race series? All of a sudden, if you're in race series, if you're in Le Mans, you know, something a world endurance championship, you have to conform to all kinds of rules. I'm not a big rule guy. I'd rather just build my car. Do I kick ass? But I think there is, I think there is probably some demand to have a dedicated track car where you've got a full road cage, all the safety equipment, the halon, a fire extinguishing system, and everything else that you would expect. But right now, I mean, we're, like I said, we're building, you know, the coops are sold out. We're completing the remaining run of those.

1:08:33Yeah, there's revelations right there. Yeah, that belongs to a guy. We actually went to the same Jesuit high school back in the late 70s. He was a senior, and I was a freshman, and we never knew each other. But when he ordered the car, I found out he was from Kansas City and went to Rockhurst. And he has his own private test track. Just about to the Kansas City. Yeah, you just drive through the country and you see this fence with like, you know, privacy. And on the other side of it, it's this gentleman's 3 .4 mile private race track that we get to test at. That's when you know you're really ballad.

1:09:04He's ballin' pretty good. You get your own race track. He's done a ride. It's all a gas guy and smart guy and been a really, really great client, so. I used to think that when I would watch Top Gear and watch the Stig roll around the track. Yeah, they have their own track. Well, yeah. So Top Gear tests on an old runway south west of London, and it's called Dunsfold. So they ran it. So they have their own. But they did. I've been there before. I was actually. I brought Steven Tyler over there like 10 years ago to be interviewed by Jeremy Clarkson and those guys. So he was a client. We built a Venom GT forum.

1:09:37And so we're hanging out. And I got to see him go out and do his little celebrity lap around the track. You know, if you're ever over there and you want to do a celebrity, the star and the reasonably priced car on, connect you with those guys. They're great. Yeah, it's fun. And so I think they're. But now you got Chris Harris and you got the Clarkson and Hammond and May. They moved on to Amazon. But. Are they still doing it? They are. Yeah, I was. I was in London a couple of weeks ago and I saw Richard Hammond and. What's the Amazon show called again? The Grand Tour. Right. The Grand Tour. And so Clarkson started.

1:10:08Clarkson's kind of a wild, bombastic guy. He started a show about farming. He's got a farm out in the country. And I think that's really kind of taken off. So I think that's his. That's his new gig. But I think they still. I think they do still lose season of year. And. Good entertainment. Good proper. Yeah, they're fun. Proper car stuff. Fun dude. Yeah. What did he punch a producer? They pulled the show a little bit about that. I was. So I was. So we had a. We had a lost rapper. Rapper truck that we were up in Canada with these guys. So this has been back in twenty twenty fourteen. And so like I'm working with the producers and they're like, you know, when you're around the talent, you know, don't talk to them.

1:10:49Don't spend time around them. I'm like, I'm around famous people more than these guys. These guys a lot more famous. I mean, I don't care that they're a big deal. So anyway, so these. The producers kind of be in a dick. And so we show up with these guys. And then we're like, provide the vehicle. And then. And they're going to go cross country through Canada through the mountains and do all this crazy shit. And then they're going to go up on the mountain. They're going to rescue Richard Hammond who's at the top of the mountain. He's got one of these brightening watches where you pull out the little cord.

1:11:14And it tells the satellite that you're stranded. So get your coordinates to get rescued. Anyway, so now the producers are saying, well, you know, you can't go up on the mountain while they're filming. I'm like, okay, but listen to this. I'm going to go watch football. It's the playoffs. I'm going to go watch football. And if something breaks, you need us to help you. We're not coming. They're like, oh, then they changed their tune. Like, okay, we'll come with this. And finally, it all turns out fine. Well, that producer, I won't say his name, but that producer that was being a massive dick. And maybe he was just doing his job like two weeks later, there's somewhere else in there in England.

1:11:48And Jeremy, you know, Jeremy's gets a little bit of a temperer and these guys work long hours and maybe they had eaten. And the producer guy was fuck with him. And Jeremy fucking whacked the guy. And I'm like, I wanted to fucking punch that guy a couple of times too. But I can't do that. And I don't want to get arrested in Canada anyway. Yeah, so they cancel the show. And it didn't Jeremy and him make up, but there was still. You know, I'm sure that's all water under the bridge. But Jeremy, so Jeremy, Richard Hammond and James May were all very tight. I spent time around them. And then the other guy that's behind the scenes, but just so talented, his name is Andy Wilman.

1:12:24He was the producer when they were on BBC. Now he's the producer. But when Stephen Tyler was being interviewed, you're like this from your comedy part of your brain. And when Stephen was being interviewed by Jeremy, I noticed that the interview went on for like twice as long as it probably should have. And I get claustrophobic, so I don't like being in tight crowds. So I'm kind of hanging towards the back of the crowd that they're filming all this live. And then they aired it later. But they're filming in front of a live audience. And here this guy that looks like he's a homeless dude, wearing a t -shirt, looked like he hadn't showered in about a week.

1:12:56He's standing there making notes. And I realized I was Andy Wilman, the producer of the show. And so what Jeremy's doing, he's telling all these jokes and asking these questions. And Andy is using the live audience as his focus group. Oh, they laughed at this. Oh, I don't think this is as funny. And that's how they edited it before it goes. It gets transmitted to the rest of the UK and the world. Interesting. I thought that is so clever. That is so smart. You know? And I don't know if that comedians or entertainers kind of, but you would think to some degree you want to improve your craft. But he's got a quick turnaround time.

1:13:27So like, he's got another show. He's got to do the following week. So he's just like, Jeremy is doing all this stuff. And sometimes they laugh and sometimes they wouldn't. But this guy was definitely paying attention. That show, Top Gear did Tesla dirty. Yeah, they did. They did all kinds of crooked shit. But they did Tesla dirty. I mean, they pretended the car ran out of batteries. Oh, yeah. Now, the car didn't. So they had like their push in the car. And, you know, they, I think they had a lawsuit about that. Right. They probably did. But that goes back to like, we were talking about earlier.

1:13:55Like, it just seems like. That was dirty. It seems like everybody has an agenda. So what was the agenda behind that? Was that just the. Well, they wanted to create an entertaining storyline. They did. They'll throw you. They'll throw you. They'll throw your ass under the bus and a heartbeat. That was what it is. Yeah. Oh, Tesla attempted to sue the BBC for live on March of 2011. The courts ruled in favor of the BBC saying that no viewer of the show would be likely to reasonably compare the roaster's performance on the show with its performance in the real world. That doesn't make any sense. Yeah.

1:14:23No, they got. Well, they got real. British court sides with British corporation that's owned by the British government. Yeah. It gets American company. Oops. Yeah, they got real wrote it. Yeah, they did. Because the idea that watching this thing break down wouldn't influence you to not get one. Yeah. Like, these people are testing it and it breaks down. Look, those guys good or bad. We should say what happened. Yeah. Well, we're saying it. Yeah. Because their car didn't really break down. Right. They faked it. No, they faked it. They faked it. And they, they did it just to sort of make a point about what could happen with electric cars.

1:14:52But it's a fake point. It was manufactured deal. It led to your point. But like, you know, they, they, they just want eyeballs. You know, so the more, the more controversial, you know, the, when, you know, one time when Jeremy was driving this truck and they were like, what would happen if we ran into a brick wall? You're going to go into the hospital and get, you know, broken ribs and whatever else. Just, you know, this is the video this guy. So they'll do anything. They weren't, they weren't. They ran into a brick wall. Jeremy Clarkson. He did. Yeah. With a truck. It's on YouTube. Yeah. They got a, they got a, they got a video camera.

1:15:22They got a GoPro inside. And he, it does, it's, I mean, he went to the hospital. Yeah. He went to the hospital from that. How did you do that? They did. And they, because of he died. Retention, dude. They, these guys were the masters of jumping the shark season after season after season. Uh -oh. You heard about the deal when they went to Argentina? Well, let me see the, let's go one step at a time. Let me see the truck slamming into the wall. Yeah. Before we get to Argentina. Yeah. Cause I just can't believe that they would just drive a Clarkson top gear. Full acceleration. No, they, each, each guy had to do it.

1:15:55And they're all wearing their safety equipment. It might have been 20 miles an hour. I mean, just, just run as fast as you can into that wood wall over there. Yeah. And it's going to fucking hurt, you know? So. Yeah. I think you could legitimately, you could die. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's one of these trucks. Yeah. Oh, boy. Yeah. Look at this. He's going pretty good. Bro, he's going very fast. That is so crazy. So do you think these guys give a fuck about hurting Elon and his company? That is so crazy. They want views. Oh, my God. Oh, shit. He's lucky. He has teeth. He's lucky. He is a neck. Yeah. His neck's got to be fucked up from that.

1:16:35Yeah. We did a thing with them. A grand tour in Detroit about five years ago. And, you know, maybe he's got a good car. Our factory looks like he's healed up. But man, that, that's pretty gnarly. That seems like it caused permanent damage. And so they would do stuff like that. Well, that even happened recently. The disc. Caused some discs. Worst injury he suffered on the show. Another one, another one of their guys in the, in the current crew. I forget his name. Maybe Pat O 'Rourke. But anyway, he, um, he had a bad car crash the canceled the whole season. Really? The rest of the season. Yeah. And again, nobody really knows the details.

1:17:04They're not showing anything. But I, I hear it was pretty painful. Yeah. Well, you watch that image. He's reaches for his neck, like immediately. And you see how his head violence snaps. I don't know how it does him. Break, break your neck. So just like stuff like that. Like when we were in Canada with the, with the crew, we're hanging out with the crew. And like the, the, the, so they went down to Canada. They weren't, not Canada. They went Argentina. Excuse me. The gummy bears kicking in. I suppose. They're in Argentina. And so one of the cars they made, they wrote on the car. They're doing this cross -country thing.

1:17:36They're kind of poking fun at the Argentinians when they lost the Falcon War back in the 80s to the Brits. And, and the story was that these guys were getting chased out of the country like people were going to, like looking for them. If they found them, they were going to fricking, you know, beat their ass pretty hard or worse. And so I'm talking to the crew. And, you know, the, the presenters were able to get to Buenos Aires and were able to get out of the country. But the crew is still there. And people are like, they're calling the embassy. They're like, hey, you know, what can we do? The fucking locals are trying to get us.

1:18:10And so I guess the present, this is the, again, this is the strum hearing from the crew when we were on Canada with our velociraptor. Is that, you know, the presenters got out. The crew were stuck, fearing for their lives, like hiding out in places, trying to make it to the airport to get home. And then so when the whole shit hit the fan, the, the presenters in England felt bad for them. Say bottom all first class tickets or business class from, from Argentina back to the UK. But then the question becomes kind of given the pattern of wanting to further jump the shark. And look, I'm a, I'm a, if I climb a mountain, I want to, I want to climb the next mountain.

1:18:48So I get that to some degree. But did these guys actually like try to stir up the locals by putting shit on their car to fuss the fuck with them? Well, yeah, just for notoriety. And so I mean, I mean, yeah, that's the show. I would think so. I mean, 100%. Why else would you do it? Yeah, you're trying to be nice. Yeah, I don't know if they knew it was going to go as far. But man, they, but it's kind of a shitty deal where they, they, they skated out there and their, and their crew is literally, you know, afraid they were going to get fucking beat to death. Imagine if they did. Yeah. Yeah. And the, and I'm hearing this from the crew, in this auto going down like 30 days before.

1:19:23Jesus. Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of interesting. But, you know, well, it's a wild show, but it's a fun show. It's a fun show. It's a fun show. They're irreverent and they fuck with everybody. And yeah, they gone too far a few times. Sure. But I think they're, you know, just trying to entertain. Well, he does entertain. And when Jeremy Clarkson reviews cars, it's like when he's really enthusiastic about it. Yeah. Like he's reviews for our race. Oh, that guy's word was like, you know, it would either make your break you. Yeah. I mean, that was, you know, probably from 05 to, you know, he had about about a 10 year period.

1:19:55Now you got Chris Harris, whose friends with our mutual friend Matt Farah on California. Yeah, I've had Chris on podcast before. He's great. Yeah. He's probably one of my favorites for sure. We had dinner with him in London a couple weeks ago. And just, could, could be any finer. Yeah. Him and Matt are two of my favorites for reviewing cars. Yeah. Smokey tires awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just a car entertainment, you know, it's sort of come a long way. Right. There wasn't really that much back in the day. I mean, what kind of, there was not really a show like, once Top Gear came around, then people realized how entertaining it is just to like see cars and hang out cars.

1:20:30Right. Now, I think really one of the best of it is Jay Leno. Like, Jay Leno's garage is fantastic. It is great. It's very good. Yeah. He loves cars so much that it's like, it's so contagious. I don't know anybody that knows more about cars from A to Z, from steam cars to hyper cars to race cars. Everything in between. Jay Leno was literally a walking automotive encyclopedia. Yeah. Yeah, I don't understand the steam cars like that. Well, he's got ones that he drives around that aren't even supposed to have rubber tires. So he had to put rubber on the steel wheels so that it's legal to drive around.

1:21:04Well, they never tell you on so on a steam car, you're heating up this boiler and the boiler's got water in it and that turns into steam and that's what makes it go. But when you run low on water, if you're not careful, it will look explode. So you have to, so you have to turn off the heat and so this came up because I was in J's one time and I saw one of his steam cars and he's talking about it. I'm like, what's the garden hose in the back seat for? He's like, well, you know, I'm over it. I'm driving through Bear Bank and, you know, his start running out of water. So he's able to shut it down so the engine doesn't explode.

1:21:36And he goes up a little lady's front door and says, you know, man, can I hook my spigot up to your, you know, my house up your spigot, I've put some water on my steam car. I had some Jane Leno showing up at your house. Oh, yeah. Wanted to borrow water. Right, yeah. Yeah. That's an crazy change. Yeah, he's got a insane collection. I can't even believe how big it is. When I was there, I thought it was just one of these buildings. Yeah. Oh, it's the whole block. His 11 buildings. Yeah, they're all kind of daisy chained together. Yeah, it's incredible. And motorcycles too. Yeah. Yeah, we did. J's been a customer.

1:22:10Gosh, almost 30 years. He had the first black Gen 1 Viper. And so he wanted to do an exhaust and intake and a 373 rear end gear. And so we're scheduled to go out there. And I just talked to him like on the phone one time. And I only dealt with him. I didn't deal with any assistance or handlers. And so I just dealt with him on the phone the one time. And then my wife had our first shot. We had a miscarriage. And so I couldn't go. So I just had somebody call out there to his office. I just say, John can't make it. He didn't give me any reason. And do like two days later, flowers in a card should have door a house.

1:22:47And to this day, I do not know how Jay knew that we had a miscarriage or even knew my home address. But somehow he found out and said flowers. We've been friends ever since. That's awesome. Yeah. Special dude, for sure. Super passionate, super influential. You know, another thing I learned from Jay that's cool. So whether it's a 2 .7 minute old Venomify revolution or one of our, you know, Velociraptor Mamma Trucks whenever I'm out in public with one of our vehicles or if I'm in like a car's a copy car show. Jay taught me that what I said, what got you into cars? Jay is well when he was 12 years old.

1:23:19There was like maybe a 55 Jag parked out in front of a store. And he was admiring it. And the guy came up to the car and says, hey, could you like the car? And he said, yeah. And the owner said, would you like to sit in it? And so I've seen Jay at a bunch of car shows. So if you're somewhere south of 12 years old, and you ask him nicely, you know, he'll let you sit in this car. So we do the same thing. And so when they kind of start queueing up and I get the 14 year old, I'm like, no, no, no. He goes to those cars and coffees. Oh, yeah. He takes all kinds of shots. You know what I mean? So when Jay was doing tonight's show, that's when I met him.

1:23:52And you know, we did several projects for him. Look, he habits come out of the show. But he was always so busy. Like, I would just like see him in passing. And he's so like high -functioning ADHD, dyslexic, which my son Cole is too. It's just like his brain just moves in a million miles a minute. So like a same, hey, Jay, how you doing? Blah blah blah, in and out, in and out, getting his next car and go. But then when you retired from the tonight show, a whole different Jay. Just like you can have a conversation with him. He wasn't thinking about all the shit he had to do. And we wait so much better at that show.

1:24:26Because it's so much what he's actually interested in. Absolutely. Just the job of hosting tonight. And the mistake that I made growing up is like, you know, he would tell do comedy on the tonight show. Well, we always thought it was funny. We would watch it. But then years later, maybe 10 years ago, I got to hear him do stand up. And I'm like, it's so much more edgy. You know, my wife will only handle so much. Like, if you get it, it's like a certain level of crew. She won't go. So I have to go by myself. So he's like right there on the edge of certain levels on the edge, really? Oh, dude. I thought so.

1:24:59This show had a big launch for a new oil product about 10 years ago. And we were there. And he's like a fucking machine gun, dude. Like you get about, so in the 45 minute set, you get at least an hour and a half with the material. It is just coming fucking rapid fire. That's interesting. I gotta go see him live then. Because I haven't seen him live for a long time. I don't know where he's working out. Or if he just does big shows. I don't know. Because he used to do comedy magic club every Sunday. I see it. I see his stuff pops up, you know, in my, you know, social media feeds like when he's around in the area.

1:25:37So he does. He does shows. Yeah. But it would, to your point, reach out to him. I'll give you his number. And you reach out to him and have him come to the mothership. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. He used to be really respected as like an edgy comic when he first started. Yeah. And he, in the 1970s, like when he would do, like, I guess it was the early 80s or late 70s. We do Letterman. I used to watch the Letterman. He'd wear like a black leather jacket. What did you use that? This would have been mid, probably mid 80s, 84, 85. And they would used to do a little gag called J. What's your beef? Yeah. What's your beef?

1:26:10Kind of a grumpy old man program. But yeah, I was, I always thought J was pretty good. You know, I was a big, I love Carson when Carson was on back in the day too. So you just kind of go from one to the next, but I'm like, you know, some of the current stuff, you got gut felt is finding funniest shit. But the other guys, I just, it's a hard gig, man. Yeah. Because you have, there's so many restrictions. Like, first of all, you're talking to someone very quickly. Yeah. If you're going to talk to them about something complex, something that's difficult to grasp. It's like a long form pop cap. Puts works, right?

1:26:42100%. Okay. Because if you're just talking to someone and you're talking to them for five minutes and then you're going to commercial, it's like you can only get so into the subject. Yeah. And some subjects deserve more attention. They deserve time. And you really can't do it on those shows. And then also you're censored, right? So you can't say certain words. Right. You can't speak your mind. You, you, you'll have a producer in your ear telling you what to do. And then on top of that, you have these commercials. You have to wait for the commercial. Then you got to build momentum back up when you're back.

1:27:10All right, we're back. You know, like, why are we back? Like, what is this? Like, it's the worst way to have conversations. And that's essentially what those things are. What those things are is just, it's like short attention span, quick sound bite conversations that are not satisfying. Right. That's the problem. Yeah. To get a satisfying conversation, you need to talk to someone for a long time. Okay. And so they're crippled. Right. They're, they're, they're handicapped by the system that they exist in. Okay. There's nothing you can do to fix it. Man, but it just, it was that much different from when, when Carson and, and Lena were doing it.

1:27:44I mean, yes, because today's a lot worse. What is podcast now? Oh, there's no people. No, there's nothing else. Watch back then. Now people see it. This is what it is. It's like, they see the difference. Because if all the only conversations you see with people having on television are on things like the tonight show. Right. And that seems normal. Yeah. But as soon as you can have long, form, full, uncounted conversations. Deep dive, unpack it all. Yeah. Okay. That's when it becomes awkward. Because then you're like, why are they doing it like this? This is an uncomfortable way to watch people talk.

1:28:17Okay. And also like someone's sitting there and you're sitting next to him in this weird way. You're facing a crowd. You get a live audience. It's all weird. There's so much weirdness to it. That's funny. It's just not a good way to have a good conversation. Right. You know, and all it was really was an advertisement for whatever the fuck that person was selling. Okay. So if the service book, or whatever, it's a comment, a new record, a new movie. Yeah. That's really what it is. Yeah. It's not, you know, and Jay Leno didn't get a chance to pick the guests. Like he wasn't like up to him. Well, he did tell me, this is, we work with him on a project a couple of years ago.

1:28:54We're just sitting on a truck bullshitting. And, you know, I kind of asked him. I said, so since you don't do the tonight show, do you, do you miss any of that at all? He's like, nah, really? He's like, I, he's like, I went really big on going to movies. So I, you know, somebody's coming on the show. And I go watch the movie just so I knew what to talk about. He's like, I'm really not into celebrities. And I don't go to the movies. I do my, I do my car thing, you know? Well, for Jay Leno, and for all those comedians that lived back then, the tonight show was the Holy Grail. Oh, for sure. It was.

1:29:23If you're young comedian, you get on there. That's it. That's it. The host of the Letterman show, the host of like some late night show. That was the Holy Grail. Right. So they all wanted that. And so when, you know, you get it, and you realize like, is this really what I wanted? It just was, it was a thing that seemed like no one could get. Right. And back then, if you got it, it was a big deal. Sure. And if you were the host of the tonight show, it was a big deal. Right. And nowadays, it's like, it's just another show. Right. And that's just another thing that's on television. They got to compete with you.

1:29:52Well, they're not even competing. It's like, they're competing with Netflix, really. Okay. They're competing with things. But if they, for conversations, yeah, they're competing with Bill Maher as a podcast now. Right. There's a lot of great podcasters. If you want just free entertainment in your years, you could, there's so much. Right. There's so many different. Yeah, it's over load. Crime shows and so many different stand -up comedians have podcasts and so many scientists. Right. Fuck, man. You could just be entertained forever. So breaking into that is hard. Right. And when you're on a television show, like you're kind of depending upon people flipping through the channels, or people that are accustomed to watching it at 11 p .m.

1:30:30Let's turn on the late night show. Right. You know. Huh. Kind of a trap, though. That is. It's a trap. I had no idea. They don't grow. It's like they're like the, the, the, the, the viewership of those things just keeps dwindling. So we're like the young comedians. We're like, so you didn't, you didn't make, you didn't get your big break by going on, uh, uh, Leno or I'm, I'm going on, uh, Carson or something like that. But, but like you, you found the right manager. It's like for a young comedian that's trying to get going. Where, how does that, how do they get discovered today? Oh, YouTube, YouTube.

1:30:59Okay. YouTube, internet, social media. Uh, someone could be, uh, funny and have one clip about one subject that resonates with people and they throw it up on their Instagram and then it gets reposted and chaired. Yeah. They put it up on Twitter. It's on YouTube and then bam. All right. Also in their famous. Right. And it happens all the time now. Wow. This is a great time for people to get their stuff out there. Like probably the greatest time ever. So if you got talent, you can't keep it down. Yeah. It's hard. I mean, you know, at least people know about it. I mean, there's definitely some people that get better breaks and other people.

1:31:29That definitely happens. But at the end of the day, really, it's about becoming undeniable. And if you could just put your stuff out there and enough people love it. Yeah. So that's where they get their big break today. Well, you know, um, back in my day, I got on, um, uh, the MTV half hour comedy hour. That was like the first television show that I did where I got attention from it and then I got a development deal. So that was like the pathway back then. It was like you would do a stand -up comedy TV show and then you try to get a sitcom. Okay. And then everybody just wanted a sitcom or they wanted to host this night show or host the Jimmy Kimmel show or whatever.

1:32:01Right, right, right. But there wasn't a lot of those. Did you ever do it? I mean, then you did Fairfactor. But do you ever host like a show like where you're interviewing people or? I did a guest hosted once later with Greg Keneer. He was out of town. Yeah. And I guest hosted it. Okay. It was fun. I enjoyed it. But it's still very limited. It's just not, it's not the same thing. Yeah. It's like doing this is like the perfect version of conversations for me. Yeah. Some people like it more restricted and they want to be wearing a suit. They want the lights and they want the crowd and they feel like it's more of a show.

1:32:35Sure. I get it. There's all kinds of different things that people like. But for me, this is the most fun to wait. Yeah. It's a gummy bear treat. Yeah. It's a little faded. I'm buzzing pretty good. A little little faded. Yeah. Doesn't it? I can smell it. I can smell you into the darkness. I brought my son. He can drive me home. I'm good. No auto -file it for me tonight. Yeah. You know that. That's funny. That's Ric Flair. Woo. Woo. We'll choose. Texas is going to get it shit together with weed. It's weird that some weed is legal. I think it will. Like that weed is legal. Like Delta 9 is legal. Fairly weed.

1:33:09I've got a weed story for you. So this ties into cold plunge. So I got diagnosed as ADHD back in the late 90s. I've been married for a while and we're having trouble. And I'm like, my counselor gives me this book and says, answer these hundred questions. And if you're more than 80 of them that you're ADHD, I was 98 out of 100. So I started taking Ridlin. Okay. And I've been taking Ridlin, you know, for almost 25 years. So fast forward to a couple months ago. I go to my doctor to the clinic to go get my prescription refill because it's a controlled substance like Adderall or opioids or whatever else.

1:33:47And for me, it just wakes me up in the morning and I don't drink coffee. And it kind of helps me stay focused on the stuff I've got to do. And better follow through and focus. And so I go in and the nurse says, well, we have a new policy at the clinic in order to get a refill for Ridlin or any other controlled substance. We have to drug test you. And I said, okay, all right, whatever. Once a year. And so I started filling out some paperwork. I'm like, she's like, okay, well, tell me when you want to go pee in the cup. And I said, you got a drug pass to me now. I said, I'm six years old. I've never been drug tested in my life.

1:34:19And it just pissed me off. I'm like, I'm paying money to be here. I just want my Ridlin. So I stopped taking it. And so like for 30 days, I'm kind of like, oh, man, I got a little less energy, a little less focus. Well, then I've been watching you and other friends cold plunging. Are you allowed to just get off a Ridlin like that? You're not supposed to cold turkey it, but I did. We want a fairly low dose. Yeah, it was 20 milligrams in the morning, 10 in the afternoon, but I didn't only didn't take the afternoon. But here's what I found that for the 30 days following, it wasn't that hard of a real transition.

1:34:49I was just a little more lethargic and needed to get to the gym more. But what I learned was, is that my level of aggression with my kids, my wife, my employees, was ratcheted down by probably 20%. From the cold. Well, so this, so this, so this, be stopped taking Ridlin. And my resting heart rate was lower. And so I thought, what can I do? So, so, so Ridlin was just jacking off. It was jacking me, but it had been jacking me up for 25 years. And then friction, I would have it with employees, or I would want to, you know, get into a tussle on just stupid shit. And so this recent revelation is, is the clinic wanting to drug test me so I could get my Ridlin refill.

1:35:28Me not taking the Ridlin. I believe, well, my wife and kids at least tell me this. I don't have a few employees. Then I'm, that I'm just, you know, I don't have to take gummy bears to calm down at times, right? I'll take a gummy bear sometimes to go to sleep. But then I thought, okay, well, what can help kind of replace, kind of give me that kick in the ass in the morning, so kind of wake me up and get me going. And I'll go, I'll go do an early workout, a boxing workout a couple times a week. But I'm like, I need something else. I've been seeing you and other people doing the cold plunge program.

1:35:57And that's like, and I had done it a few times before I got off the Ridlin. But I thought, like, okay, the last time I did that, that like gave me like this boost of focus, like this mental focus, it more calm through the day. So I bought a cold plunge tank and I got it about three weeks ago and cold plunge maybe five days a week in the morning. And I don't know, maybe it's just because it's a combination of, it's something that I really don't want to do. And it's really hard to do. When I say that to myself, I'm like, that's the very reason I need to go do it. And then, secondarily, just like, it shocks my system.

1:36:28And it just wakes me up. So I'm like, you know, so if you're listening out there and you're on Ridlin, your kid's on Ridlin, you know, what's I'm not a doctor, I'm not telling you what to do. But I am saying that I got off of Ridlin, and now I can kind of backfill that boost of energy in the morning by doing a cold plunge. That's interesting that you were on it for 25 years and you're able to get off of it in 30 days. Like, what did that transition feel like? Because I would imagine that you would kind of become dependent on the feeling that you get to that. I never, so I would run out from time to time.

1:36:58I would never, I never felt dependent on it, but I did feel lower energy. Especially the last, probably the last 10 years, as I got older, I'm like, okay, you know, I've never really been a morning person. I used to, like, up till maybe 10 years ago, I wouldn't go to bed till two or three in the morning and then I'd wake up and, you know, separate the next day. But anyway, so Ridlin just kind of gets, you know, gets me going, helps me focus, stay on task. But it probably starts wearing off kind of by mid afternoon, but I just didn't... The thing about that kind of stuff to me is if you can function as good as you're functioning without it.

1:37:31I wonder, because we think of medications as being necessary. Yeah. We think of things like that as being necessary. Like, this is what you need, it's just straightening out. Is it, you know, I mean, it is what we're missing, like, at least with some people, is what they're missing, physical activity and stressors, things like cold and heat, and things like a morning workout. Like, how many people are just going to a pill and not doing those other things to see? If like, maybe there's a more healthy way to approach this. Yeah, I mean, I mean, just how much, you know, how much time, like, do I waste just glancing at my phone?

1:38:05Who texted me? What's in the news? What about pull cues? Whatever, you know. And so, one of the things I noticed when we first installed it, maybe it was the first or second time that I'd cold -plunge at home. Like, I was kind of had this euphoria. I don't know if it's kind of for a little bit of a dump of endorphins or dopamine or what, but just kind of me being happy. I didn't one time wonder where my phone was going on. And my counselor tells me that just by looking at our phone, sometimes that gives us a tiny little dopamine hit. Yeah, it does. Look at the phone. It's also just an addiction.

1:38:36You're just looking for new information constantly. You're always looking for some new picture or new video, new thing to stimulate you. So that's why I found the cold -plunge, kind of, just for a period of time, I'm like, it was calm. It was like Zen. It's like me being up in the mountains, looking at the trees, and just kind of being a peaceful moment without having to take a Rick Flur gummy bear. Well, it definitely makes you so happy when you get out of it. Yeah. And you get out of it like, whoa, you're like, I'm happy because I'm not freezing my balls off anymore. Yeah, it's that, but it's really just the rush of endorphins.

1:39:06Yeah, that's true. You know, our family's doing it. My wife did it. My daughter comes over and does it. Son's real athletic. He's got two scope knees. And so he thought he tweaked his knee, playing pickleball the other day, and he didn't say no more pain. So, I mean, you and as an athlete, I mean, and still probably training pretty hard, do you find, like, when your body's getting a little warmer, your joints a little sore? Does that, does the cold -plunge help you too? I do it every day, so I don't know. Okay. I mean, I still have joint pain. I still have, like, some stuff. But that's just what it is.

1:39:35It's what it is. It's what it is. Okay. Yeah, it is what it is. You just get accustomed to being in some sort of pain most of the time. Right. Okay. Yeah, especially jujitsu. Jujitsu training, like, you're always hurt. It's always something going on. What are you still carrying to this day that you maybe, you got hurt doing back in the day? Oh, I have had a bunch of surgeries. I've got my knees reconstructed. Both my knees reconstructed. Okay. It's a lot of it is joint stuff and back stuff. Okay. Everybody that I know that does jujitsu has some sort of a back issue or a neck issue. So does, does, does, does weed or, you know, hallucinogens or those, does that help any, is it more for your mind stimulation or relaxation or does it help with any of your injuries?

1:40:13I think, well, I don't know if it helps with injuries. It definitely reduces inflammation because there's a good argument that maybe inflammation is good for some injuries. Oh, really? Yeah, because it's how the, the body is healing from it. Okay. Like, there's a, Unless it's your arteries. What's that? Unless you've got inflammation in your arteries. Yeah, that's not good. Yeah. But inflammation from injuries. Okay. Like, so there's like two schools of thought. One school of thought is you should ice things immediately and calm down the inflammation. And the other school of thought is really what you need is heat and motion.

1:40:44And that you need to kind of like let the body do its normal process. And there's a reason why it's inflamed following an injury. It's sending a lot of blood to that area. Okay. And fix it. I don't know. I'm not smart enough. I've heard from very smart people both things you should do. I've heard you should ice things. And I've heard you should never ice things. I don't know what to say about that. But I do know that it does inhibit your growth and gains if you do it postlifting. Okay. So like if you lift weights and then you jump into the cold right afterwards, the reduction of inflammation actually equals less growth.

1:41:20So you get less what they call hypertrophy. Did you talk about some guy that was doing cold plunges before his morning workout? That's what I was doing. That was boosting testosterone. Yes, we read about that. There was a guy that he got, he had some sort of a test that showed that he might have cancer. Okay. And they wanted to put him on certain medications and he said, I wanted to try doing a ketogenic diet and doing the cold plunge every day. And so this guy shifted his diet and went to doing a cold plunge every day before his workouts. And his testosterone rocketed. Wow. All of his problems went away.

1:41:57Wow. He started feeling way healthier. Right. But I think sometimes people need like a little bit of a wake -up call just to kind of straighten up your diet. Yeah. And maybe it doesn't need to be keto, but maybe the benefit wasn't really from him doing keto, which may have been a benefit. But it also might have been, when you're doing keto, you're not eating any bullshit. Like you can't eat potato chips. You can't drink soda. You only get a certain amount of carbs per day. Right. So you're trying to get your body into the state where it's just burning fat. And just by doing that, you're eliminating bullshit.

1:42:28And that's probably what's fucking with people more than anything. It's just bad food. Do you cook your own food? You have some amazing food. Yeah. Yeah. I cook a lot. What? Wow. Come here a bear moment. Gummy bears are your friends. But sometimes they fuck you. They leave you searching for your thoughts. Yeah. No, I love cooking. I really do. I love cooking meat, you know, especially like game meat, like wild game. Yeah, I see your Instagram. With some of that elk stuff looks like, man, I'll be right over. I love it. I love cooking rib eyes too. Right. Because I like to eat. I eat mostly meat.

1:43:00So I try to eat a lot of fat. Because I'm not getting much else. Do you take, so like when you go to, you know, go on the road for a fighter or doing stand -up, you bring like a cooler, you bring your stuff. No, I'm just a restaurant. Okay. Okay. Yeah. You much do much with intermittent fasting? Yeah, I do that all the time. Generally, I do at least 14 hours. Okay. So I generally like to work out in the morning fasted. Okay. You know, okay. But it depends. Like sometimes like if I have a show late at night, like last night, my show was pretty late. Right. And I was home until like two, 30 in the morning.

1:43:35Okay. So then I had some food at night. Because I was just exhausted and tired. So then I ate and I went to sleep and I woke up later. Right. So when I woke up, I just ate and then got my shit done. Because I'm like, listen, the fasting's out the window. Right. I got tanked last night. Let's just like get something in and, you know, get the sweat going and let's get rocking and then. Kind of get your body back up. Yeah. But I do the whole plunge before anything. Okay. Before any of my workouts, I'm going to try that out. Yeah. I'm so accustomed to it now. It's still sucks. Like I still hate it.

1:44:04I still think about checking it out. But it's necessary. Well, it is really good for you. And I feel so great when I get out of it. And I'm more importantly, it's made my body much more resilient to cold. Like I warm up really quickly. Yeah. Like once I'm out, like I do the three minutes and I remember the first time I did, I was fucking cold for so long. Oh, you fucker. Oh, you fucking bitch. You dummy. What is wrong with you? What are you doing? Now I get out and I'm like, woof. Like my body's completely adapted to it. So I can start working out right away. How cold? What temperature do you find?

1:44:3834. Oh, you go that low. Yeah, I do 34 for three minutes every morning. Wow. Do you have a chiller? Do you have ice or? I have a morosco cold plunge at home at morosco forge. And here we have one called the blue cube. Okay. And they're both very, very good. I want to see that. I've got the blue cube. I'll show you the blue cube. Okay. It's out here. The blue cube we have with the studio. And the blue cube they're upgrading to this fucking insane one they have now that's like a river. Okay. So you don't get a thermal layer over your body. So when you see the whole way. So the water is constantly circulating.

1:45:08Exactly. So it's just like you're sitting in a river sucking. Okay. Never stop sucking. Oh, that's going to super chill your ass. Yeah. Because when you get it in the morosco, it's amazing. And look, it ain't easy. Right. Three minutes is a grind. At that temperature. Oh my gosh. But after a minute and a half or so, it gets more relaxed. Okay. And that's because you develop a thermal layer because when you get out, you know how your body gets like super red? Yeah, yeah. Right. That's what that is. Okay. That's your body is forcing blood to try to warm up your skin that's in contact with this cold.

1:45:37It's trying to prevent you from hypothermia. It's giving you some insulation. Yes. Yes. Okay. And so this blue cube one doesn't allow that. Okay. Because it's like constantly running through. It's constantly flowing. So it's torturing. Wow. I'm a worse. I'm only down to 55 degrees. Oh, that's ridiculous. I know. I shower in that. I'm sure you do. That's outrageous. You get ice keys. I like cold showers too. Yeah. In the winter, it's the greatest. Yeah. I love it. I love it in the winter. Oh, the winter feels so good. I love doing it right after the sauna. Yeah. That's what you're asking. So what rotation, where does the dry sauna come in with cold plunge in the workout?

1:46:10It depends entirely on what kind of workout I'm doing. All right. Like what I really generally like to do is I like to work out by doing cold plunge first always. And then I will have like whatever workout I'm in it. And I'm doing a hard cardio like if I'm doing bag workout or something like that, then I go right into the sauna afterwards. Okay. So my heart rate is jacked. Okay. So when my heart rate like when, you know, my resting, my heart rate after rounds, like I'll do like 10 rounds on the bag. And it's still beating fast when I go in. So and then because of the heat, like it's a static form of cardio.

1:46:42So when you go away and workout, exactly, I'm extending my workout just sitting there and listening to a book. Okay. So I'll just put air. If you want to do that, though, get air pod ones, the original. So slide out or? No, the original ones don't overheat. Oh, really? The other ones die out. Okay. Every fucking, I've tried a bunch of different companies, a bunch of different air. They all die except the original regular air pods, whichever one they sell. They'll sell like a gen two, but it's not the new ones. Yeah. Is the old ones. Yeah. The ones in the little tiny case. Yes. Sure. Those ones don't die.

1:47:14Okay. Because they have less shit in them. Interesting. But the other ones have norms canceling and all that they die quick, the pros, they eat a lot. Yeah. And it's always the left one because I'm sitting with my left side to the heater. Okay. So it made me conscious of like switching sides. So cold plunge, workout, if you got your heart rate up, definitely go straight into the dry sauna. Yeah. And then you, you ever rotate back? Sometimes even when I lift weights, I'll go into the sauna. It depends on how much time I have, but what I really like is a sauna at night. Okay. Really like that when I come.

1:47:42Relax your club. We're bad. Yeah. It relaxes you for bad, but it also, it centers my mind and it gives me an opportunity to have just a little bit more adversity at the end of the day. Go through 20 minutes of this fucking 189 degrees sauna and steam and just, and listening to something. Generally, I'm listening to a book. Okay. And I'm just in there just thinking about shit. Yeah. It's like, it's good alone time. I need alone time. Like I, it's very important. When you're alone time that you're not listening to the book, you're not listening, thinking about, you know, learning. When I work out, when I'm working out, yeah, when I'm working out, it's just alone time.

1:48:19Yeah. You know, like if I'm hitting the bag, either I listen to music or sometimes I don't listen to anything, I just want to hear the thumps. I just want to hear the one ball. You've ever been in a fast go -kart, like how do you go? Not a fast one. We were in Thailand, I think it was in Thailand with my family and we went to this place, they rent go -karts, we were whipping around and they were funnest shit, we were racing each other. It was a really good time. Yeah, but like a really fast, like a track focus go -kart, like for me, like that's something that will take my mind off of everything because maybe a bit like boxing or something in that, if I'm not focused at what I'm doing, I mean they're going to fluck a lose or get fucking hurt or both.

1:49:00Yeah. And so anyway, just skiing fast and go -karts or what take my mind off of going hurt, you could do that with pool. That's what I like. True, and that's what I like about archery as well, archery, it's like when you're drawn back. A little bit of zen. Yeah, there's a thing that's happening where it's so difficult to do that all you're thinking about is that thing and it's very mind -cleansing because Fred Baer said that, something about a troubled man and a bow. Right. Fred Baer was like one of the original certain years of bow hunting in this country. But pool to me is like one of the ultimate ones because you could do it at any time you want.

1:49:36Anytime you have time, I can just go out there and set some drills up or just run some balls and it just frees my mind because you know you're a good pool player when you're making a long shot, especially a shot on that table, and you know you have to get pinpoint position on the next ball, there's like so much going on. Did you ever play any street pool? Yeah, I did. Yeah, I did. I never really played one pocket, but I played a lot of street pool. I played a little bit of one pocket, it's like a chess match that's boring as shit. I like action. I get it. Yeah. It's hard to do. I get it's a great gambling game.

1:50:07Yeah. Those guys who are really, they're totally showing great Matthews. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're chess masters is what they are. It's an intellectual game. Yeah. Efron Reyes is amazing. Yeah. Yeah. But it's not my thing. I like rotation. Right. Right. I like breaking. Sure. I like running out. All right, man. I'm your pool table day. Just let me know. We got to do this. I don't have to drive up. Yeah. We had a good time. Yeah. It was fun. It just didn't have enough time. That's all good. That's the thing. You just get warmed up when you put it for like an hour or two. Well, listen, brother, I appreciate you coming here and I love your cars, man, and I appreciate you making wild shit.

1:50:44I just love it. I just love that you do that. You just make wild shit. Yeah. Whenever I look at your website, he's like, he's got a thousand horsepower Camaro. What the fuck are you doing, an exorcist like Jesus Christ, man? Everything is just so bonkers over the top. All of it, the GT500, not fast enough. What does it only have 700 horsepower? No, I thought we built a thousand horsepower. Exactly, but from the factory, 700 from the factory. We built a thousand horsepower GT500 for Jim Farley, the CEO and he his son went out and drove around Monterey, California, last August and had a blast with it, so the fucking videos that you guys have of like people sitting in the car and you see the acceleration.

1:51:22Oh my God. I love that you're out there, brother. Appreciate you very much. Appreciate you. And thank you for being here. It was a life fine. Thank you. All right. Goodbye.