#1996 - Andy Stumpf

1:02:17Are you able to find it, Jamie? Was it like a town? Was it where they go? It was a mall No, it wasn't a mall, it was a Word is escaping me right now But like a city center Where there was an event Attemptive shooting And attempted bombing occurred at the Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino Yep Oh, this is a while ago Yeah, this is your 22 Okay, I remember this There was a dispute where Apple did not want to give them access to the phones Correct Yes, that's right I don't think Apple could give them access to the phones I think they asked Apple To help crack the phone And Apple said no But yeah And they just asked the CIA Like, we're got that I don't know if that They don't want to admit it, they're like, we Look at all the text messages, we got all the memes Look at these funny ones they send I don't want to let anybody down But I don't know if the CIA is as capable as Some people think that it is Let's just say Jason Bourne is not running around out there Well, I don't think Jason Bourne is running around out there But I do think they have surveillance abilities Far beyond what we can imagine 100 % And I think for anything that they may bounce up Constitutionally Whether they choose to Respect the Constitution or not If they choose to respect the Constitution All they do is they outsource it to one of the allies Who can then inwardly look and it achieves the same thing Yeah Someone contacted Someone from the intelligence community contacted Tucker Carlson Said that they knew that he was having poop Not because they had read his signal messages

1:03:55He's like, you read my signal message, I don't even know you could do that Oh yeah Right, they're encrypted, never is like, oh, it's encrypted Just tell the murder story here Yeah, tolly, hey, where's the body? Where's Jimmy Hoffa? Where's Jimmy Hoffa? Where's the coat coming in? Anything that occurs on an electronic device that transmits From my understanding And this is looking back into how we used to find people in the early 2000s Whether or not somebody in real time is actually accessing that I don't think because of the volume but it is collected somewhere and can In the rearview mirror be looked at Yeah, I mean that was the whole thing that Snowden exposed You know and that's why they were building these massive data centers The NSA was or it still is Yeah, I mean there's so much going on that we just don't know That's why it's so weird That's why it's so weird when like this UFO disclosure thing comes out This guy Didn't it just come out today?

1:04:51Yes, whistleblower Yeah, this gentleman David Grush And David Grush Let's find out who he is and what his credentials were But he essentially said that they are illegally hiding it from Congress And they are illegally hiding it from the American people but they have Offworld craft in possession Who's the they and that It's somewhere well it's in the things are saying it's oh here we'll let's read it Air Force veteran has made a bombshell claim that US government has recovered materials That could be proof of UFOs including an intact craft of non -human origin But they are keeping it a secret from the public David Charles Grush A veteran and former member of the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency And National Reconnaissance Office Has blown the whistle on this information Speaking with several news outlets about the crafts These are retrieving non -human origin technical vehicles Call it a spacecraft if you will Non -human exotic origin vehicles that have either landed or crashed Mr.

1:05:53Grush told news nation Mr. Grush served as The senior technical advisor for the unidentified aerial phenomenon analysis with top secret Secret compartment and information clearance according to the debrief He also served as a senior intelligence officer in the National Reconnaissance Office In total he has 14 years of experience serving as an intelligence officer So here's the question Is that a siop? Is this We've got a non -human craft a siop Like if I was the government And I was working on some shit And I didn't want China to rush to know about it And we could do some Why? Shit some anti -gravity shit I thought it was totally nuts And I thought at first I was being deceived But it was a ruse Mr.

1:06:42Grush told news nation People started to confide in me, approach me I have plenty of senior former intelligence officers that came to me Many of which I knew almost my whole career That confided in me that they were part of a program He told the debrief that he's prepared many briefs on UFOs for Congress But last year decided to provide hours of classified information and data About the materials recovery program Mr. Grush claims the materials recovery program was shielded from proper congressional oversight So this is what Bob Lazar has been saying forever This guy saying that it was going on for 80 years So like this brings us back to the 1940s I mean this is like this is means like Roswell This is what they were talking about when all the people that were at Roswell That were at the actual crash site And the actual claim they saw bodies And then there was two different aircrafts that were flown in to Roswell, New Mexico And took the wreckage and flew it in two different aircrafts in case one of them crashed supposedly And they flew them to Wright Patterson Air Force Base This has all been documented Now that was a balloon, it was just a balloon Why would they go through such lengths?

1:07:52And why there's so many people that have so many stories about Roswell Why there's so many Hoki, goofy fucking explanations of what happened Including it was a parachute There was human dummies like crash test dummies that were evolved There were crash testing things like Not according to the people that were there What they saw was materials that could not be explained Insanely light You would crumple it and it would immediately flex back to the stage that was out there They found things that had some sort of writing that resembled hieroglyphs They don't, I mean, these people, they could have all been full of shit It could have been just some story Something happened and everybody told everybody and you're playing a game of telephone And next thing you know, it's this wild story of bodies and little tiny caskets And people being silenced But the problem is the story is very universal When they're all telling a story, it's a real similar man And the guy who was a part of the initial release He went public afterwards and said that's stuff that we showed the American public When they were sitting there, I forget the gentleman's name But he was showing like a piece of a weather balloon and they had this smile on their face And this is one day after the, I think it was the Roswell daily record They had the front page of the newspaper, the government has recovered a crashed UFO I mean, I don't know how big the universe is I've heard it's hard to quantify in size Yeah, that's it right there I mean, what do you think the odds are And all of the universe that we are alone?

1:09:28It's not good If it is, it's wild If it's just us, it's wow What a weird fucking aberration Well, it's too much not us So for a species, I mean, we can look at where we are at We can make it to kind of the moon before we start fucking up Maybe Elon can get us to Mars, maybe not But so let's assume that a species that was able to come, like, check us out It's probably more advanced Probably more intelligent I think they would run for the fucking hills Why? Because we are idiots And I think anybody who viewed humanity from a long enough more objective lens Would say maybe we can just leave this trash planet alone for a little bit And we'll come back after either they have killed themselves again And regrow into something better Or when they come and visit us I don't think so I think we're normal I think this is what normally happens When territorial apes start to develop advanced powers And when territorial apes start to figure out things like nuclear power And then nuclear bombs When they start figuring out anti -matter When they start figuring out Just some of the wild shit these motherfuckers are working on And that's us And we're crazy and we're full of shit I mean if they just looked at our president and our vice president Like this is the commander in chief and second in charge of the greatest army the world has ever known The greatest country that's ever existed that's filled with technology and innovation and art and creativity And it's run by these fucking buffoons Like this is real This is really what they chose This is really how the system works When you look at Congress, how many of them are engaged in insider trading, how they don't want to make it illegal Hypothetically too Well Hypothetically they do better than the best investors in the world When you have Probably pure luck that they're not saying Nancy Pelosi is probably just a wizard She's just really good at numbers She might be a wizard but I don't think it's in stock The whole thing is crazy I think we're a fascinating organism We're a fascinating dominant creature on a planet I think we're a fascinating to us I think a highly advanced species seeing a planet of evolved apes with nuclear abilities Would say Scotty work level 15 in the opposite direction Maybe they're here to protect us from our own demise Maybe they're here because they know that there is a possibility When these territorial apes with nuclear arms get into these situations like when Russia and Ukraine And they have the ability to nuke the planet many times over That they're here just to monitor and make sure that shit doesn't get too loopy And if you were an intelligence officer like this guy And you had access to this information And it's not just him It's guys like Ryan Graves, it's guys like Commander David Fraver Guys who are legit military men who have impeccable reputations Who tell these fantastic stories that are backed by data It's backed by these vehicles that have been tracked Going at insane rates of speed These vehicles that display no method of visual propulsion that we understand That can do things that we have no idea how the fuck they're doing it Things that are like hovering perfectly still at 120 knots And then jet off at insane rates of speed And when Ryan Graves is on What he explained is that I believe it was around 2014 They upgraded all of their sensors and all of their capabilities on their jets And immediately start seeing these things And they think these things had always been there They just didn't have the ability to recognize them It makes sense And they said they're moving in a way that can't not be explained by anything that we know currently I think it's improbable that we're out here by ourselves I think we'd be watched just like Have you seen Chip Nation?

1:13:18No, I saw you post about it the other day Fucking awesome, fucking awesome But they're watching these champs They're watching them create chaos They're watching them fight over food They're watching them control territory It's what we do We watch intelligent species Because the chip is an intelligent species compared to most animals They do things that are far more interesting They act in packs They have social hierarchy systems They communicate with each other They have the very complex social structure Just like us We're just a more advanced version of that And if there are more advanced version of us I would imagine they would watch us The way we watch those champs They don't interfere They make their presence known They're always there But they don't do anything So they allow these champs to behave just like champs And if I was an alien And I wanted to study human beings I would do that I would just make my presence known occasionally Watch from afar And as their ability to understand What's out there Increases humans Then they're going to become more aware Of these things that have always been there And then they'll have to start talking about it And if they really have recovered something Like There's a moment of contact documentary about Vagina, Brazil in 1996 And the whole town experience this These UFO sightings And this crash There was like a crazy thunder lightning storm And one of them crashed and they recovered bodies And one of the soldiers That carried these bodies He died of this horrific bacterial infection That they could not fix He didn't know what it was A young healthy guy And right after he contacted this thing He carried this thing They put it in the back of a car And drove it to several different hospitals They did an autopsy on this thing There's doctors that were there Everyone's terrified to talk about The Air Force flew in And they flew in to Vagina and recovered Whatever the fuck it was And took it with them So the United States Air Force did So what was that about?

1:15:16Is that real? Do they really have these things? Do they have multiple ones? This is Bob Lazar was saying this in the 1980s He was saying that they hired him to back engineer something That they had recovered And he also said that one of the things That they recovered was from an archaeological dig And they said it was really old And they said that the Bob Lazar And this is also something that Grush had said That he had been told that one of those things Had been recovered from an archaeological dig Well, thanks for making it impossible for me to sleep For a few days I think it's real I think it's improbable that we're alone Yeah, it's very unlikely And I think it's improbable that if we are Not alone, that no one would be interested in us I think we're fucking fascinating We're the weirdest thing That exists in our known universe We're so weird We engage in deception and fraud And some of it's legal and some of it's not And murder and war and chaos And theft and our economy is built on a fucking shell game I think they'd be fascinated But they're like look at what happens When these fucking weirdos have power and influence But then as the age of information It starts to emerge And technology starts to reach this point Where you can't hide things anymore Like you used to be able to You can't just silence people that you used to be able to Then all this stuff like this guy People start coming forward And they start saying hey this is crazy This is illegal, this is anti -American You should be telling people what the fuck is going on here And he's saying that they're in cahoots With these big military contractors They're in cahoots With like these companies That build technology For the military And that they're all trying to work on this stuff And that there's a race going on Between us and the other superpowers That we're not the only ones that have recovered these things Which is fucking crazy Because that means they're hiding this from presidents They're hiding it from Congress So who makes that call?

1:17:22Like if there really was If Bob Lazar is telling the truth And if this gentleman is telling the truth He should see him talk about it too This David Grushfella When he gets interviewed See if you can find the interview It's pretty short They were referencing in that article That guy And he's the guy he's ended his career To come out and talk about this stuff Because he's like Like this is nuts Like this is And if you're a real patriot That's probably the thing you should do And apparently According to Saga he was talking about breaking points The New York Times rejected this To Washington Post rejected this They didn't want to talk about it This is the gentleman So let's play this These are retrieving non -human origin Technical vehicles Call it spacecraft if you will It's probably not the right parlance But no kidding Non -human exotic origin Vehicles that have either landed or crashed We have spacecraft From another species We do How many?

1:18:21Quite a number Where's the whole interview? Probably that website See if you can find Is that something you have to sign up for? What is it? News Nation Meanwhile that might be A 100 % government controlled organization That just promotes propaganda And that guy's working for them You gotta think about all these things I know News Nation Who are these folks? I'm gonna land it up Oh Interesting He's their fucking centerpiece Look at that Yes he is Can we save ourselves from ourselves, Joe? To go back to the humanity sliding Short the brink And tacked us in On the UFO question What conclusion did you come to At the end of your time on the UAP task force?

1:19:22The UAP task force was refused access To a broad crash retrieval program When you say crash retrieval, what do you mean? These are retrieving non -human origin Technical vehicles, you know Call it spacecraft if you will Non -human, exotic origin Vehicles that have either landed or crashed We have spacecraft from another species We do How many? Quite a number You're kidding Now I thought it was totally nuts And I thought at first I was being deceived It was a ruse People started confiding in me They approached me I have plenty of current former senior intelligence officers That came to me many of which I knew I missed my whole career That confided in me they were a part of a program They named the program I've never heard of it And they told me Based on the oral testimony And they provided me documents and other proof That there was in fact a program That the UAP task force was not read into Grisha ledges the US government Hm Was it keep going?

1:20:31What else is this The entire American public Has been lied to for decades Yeah there's a sophisticated Disinformation campaign targeting the US populace Which is extremely unethical and immoral You are saying To the human race For the first time An official Intelligence representative At a high level from the US government Is saying publicly We are not alone We're definitely not alone Absolutely the data points Imperically that we're not alone Do we have bodies? Do we have species? Well naturally When you recover something that's either landed or crashed Sometimes you encounter dead pilots And believe it or not As fantasticals that sounds It's true It's also harder for people to wrap their minds around the concept I don't know man He might be foolish yet Well I'm fascinated He might be a government agent Well to unpack that a little bit you know So there are I can only speak to it from a military perspective So he was in the Air Force There are programs There are programs that you're not going to get read into And just because you're read into one program Doesn't mean you're going to get read into other ones So his clearance TSSCI Is not an uncommon one It's the same clearance that I held that I was in Having a clearance there's two things You have to have the clearance and then you have to have the need to know So you could view him saying We were not read into another program Is something that would be conspiratorial Or you could view it as Like one program didn't necessarily have something to do with the other one So there's no need to actually read them in I'm not saying that's the case But I'm fascinated to understand It sounds like what he is saying Is that the United States military Is nesting that program The program to go recover And I would be fascinated to know how they are doing that Invisibly I mean we're talking aircraft We're talking identification early on Aircraft moving teams and this you know what I mean Like there's a lot of shit Right I'm not saying it's impossible I have But there are people that are coming forward So it's not like they're totally being quiet They're coming forward with a piece of a pie I'd be fascinated how all the pieces of the pie fed Fed of fed together I'm not saying what he's saying isn't true But watching that actually for me With my limited understanding Of some of the stuff he was talking about I have more questions that I would want to ask him Yeah I would want to ask him too We got to get him We got to get him on here I bet he would come on here I'm just kind of going fucking I feel like though I feel like He went on a tour at something like this Oh why didn't he contact us?

1:23:15I think you might get more circular answers Maybe did You might get more Maybe I asked him many questions Maybe the word I get a lot of You ask good questions though Is he still in? I might not even matter I don't know if they probably allow weed in the current military You might get more circular answers Than specific ones If you look at the answers that he was giving And again I'm not trying to discount what he's saying And I personally like I have said many times I think it's improbable that we're alone He was speaking in generalities and not specifics He was talking about other people's experiences Less his own Yes that's a good point And that's what my question would be What have you seen What have you seen physically with your own eyes Yeah what have you touched What do you know for a fact And again I'm not saying he hasn't had those experiences But I would ask those same questions as well And it just from my understanding of How the military will compartmentalize As all organizations who actually want to Keep information or at least delay The release of information compartmentalization Is not a novel concept Well that's what Bob Lazar said was the problem With the back engineering program He said that science can't exist like that in a vacuum And the propulsion experts were not allowed to talk to the metallurgists The metallurgy experts were not allowed to talk to the biology experts He said if they really did have physical bodies The people that were working on the propulsion system had no knowledge of that We're not allowed to talk about it But there was all chatter Everyone would talk about things And apparently there was some sort of a debriefing they gave them And in that debriefing he said it was so nuts He said First of all they said they've been coming here forever And they also said that we're a product of accelerated evolution Which is wild as fuck That human beings in general That why we are so different from all the other primates That's always been the fucking conspiracy theory folklore That's the fun one That's the Anunnaki that came down here And messed around with lower primate DNA And did something to it to create a human being I'm here for it I'm here for that That would make everything fun And then I would think that the government Would want stuff like this to come out If they're in the middle of like stealing money Or doing something really wild Oh the classic misdirection Oh for sure Yeah if you're gonna take something that gets rid of a certain amendment Or you're gonna do something that allows you to infringe on rights Or impose some new sort of restrictions Bring the aliens out Yeah bring the aliens out Yeah I guess Sometimes I wish people were smarter Well some people are The problem is most people don't have the time When we were talking earlier about So many people that work all day And then they also have interests that they're chasing And they also have families and hobbies And things How much time do you have about after that To go on a deep dive But what the government's doing about UFOs Or what's really going on in Ukraine Or what's really going on with Bitcoin Or how did Sam Bankman freed of FTX Gain access to the most prominent politicians in the world While he was running a Ponzi scheme And how did he become the number two donor To the Democratic Party And what is that mother fucker out on bail And shelling to this parent's house No big deal He's just stole billions What's the problem?

1:26:29I wish we would all get equal treatment like that First of all I'm not smart enough to create a system like he did But you know Yeah well there's so many Right the Glean Maxwell thing What's going on that How come there's no client list How come no one knows who she sex trafficked too That's crazy that someone is going to jail Tried and convicted for sex trafficking But to who The guy that was maybe responsible for starting the FTX The finance guy he just got in trouble And he's being looked into Look at this, finance looks like FTX but worse The feds are going after world's largest crypto exchange Their allegations are ugly Oh boy And isn't this the guy that the FTX Went to to try to salvage FTX And he was like fuck you Yeah this is Yeah what is that That expression Whenever you prepare to enact revenge dig two graves One for yourself and one for enemy Yeah this dude's getting that second grave going What does it say?

1:27:28What does the government saying about him I was trying to figure it out I've seen I was busy There's a lot of stuff going on It's all horses shit What do you think would change? Say the client list came out for Epstein What do you think would change People being a lot of trouble Would they know like let's say it was politicians They would demand answers They would want to find out what's going on It would destroy reputations It would destroy careers They would try to have to find new people To fulfill the roles that those people were in Yeah it would be a problem It would be a giant problem I unfortunately think it wouldn't change anything I think those politicians In the system that they have created are so well insulated That it might be headlines for a little bit And then it would go right back to business as usual It depends It depends on the climate of the country And I think the climate of the country Over the last three years is an intense distrust For mainstream media and the government Because so many people lost their businesses Because so many people were lied to Because so many people were forced into taking An experimental medication That may have had Horrible adverse side effects For a large number of people I don't think so I think this is a very strange time I think people would get very angry And I think this is a time Where people realize that talking about things Actually can change things now Like look at what Something dumb like Bud Light You know people are tired of this woke agenda They're tired of being shoved in their face By corporations and boom Bud Light loses 27 billion dollars By sending a can With a face on it Of an attention whore To that attention whore And all of a sudden everybody is like Hey enough Target puts all this pride stuff In their stores And pride kids clothes And people like enough What are you doing?

1:29:15I think people are paying attention Though it shows Who is like the outrage culture It's almost a currency Right and that's why I think that I don't I don't know if anything would change If the like let's Hypothetical world The Epstein client list comes out It's all politicians hypothetical world Like every... I don't know it's Tuesday Today I'm sure there's somebody outraged about something And they're screaming about it on social media And tomorrow there'll be something else So it's like outrage every single day And I honestly think it's less effective But to go to the Bud Light thing What's interesting to me I think if people are paying attention The loudest people on those platforms I think it's very easy To fall into this trap of thinking That it's the majority I think the loudest people on all those platforms Or the minority So what has happened is for that particular brand For whatever reason they made that decision What ended up happening is they appeased Somebody who was in a very vocal minority And the very silent majority Told them to go fucking pack rocks Well not only that Not on social media With their fucking wallet In the real world And they're led by their king Kid Rock Bud Light sales keeps slipping But it remains America's top selling beer Wow Bud Light still America's top selling beer It's how far ahead it was They're down 27 billion But they're still number one Yeah, I mean how expensive is it to bottle urine It can't be that much right It's like, fuck It's that taste like shit It's not good No But it's kind of like the flavor so mild It's just nothing Boring Yeah, it's just a mechanism to get you shit face on the economic budget And a slow drip It's like an IV drip of shit face Yeah But I just think it's fascinating If you go if you spend your time online Everybody is mad about something Or fucking everything But aren't they mostly mad their own lives I think a lot of it starts with that I think a lot of people How can you know And again, I don't think social media is the root of all evil But if you look at what people post They're not generally posting the valleys They post their peaks So you're in this never ending game of Or a game of Well look at what this person has Is asking comparison to what I have And look what that person's doing Comparison to what I'm doing It's just fucking portal to hell Yeah, it's not good It's not good also for people that don't have any discipline Which is most people Most people And they're just lured into the rocks By the siren song of the internet Why do you think most people don't have discipline inherently They didn't develop it I think you have to develop it early on Or make a dedicated quest To develop discipline as an adult Because you recognize The value of it Like a missing role model early on But then it's still But it's also it's just yeah That and also they didn't have to do anything That was really difficult When they were young Where like say let's say you're a 13 year old And you join the wrestling team You probably have no Fucking idea that anybody works that hard Ever and anything You have no idea And then you get home from practice And you're just fucking cooked Eat the entire content Is it a refrigerator?

1:32:29Empty out your fridge And you're exhausted every night And you can't believe how But maybe you get the bug And maybe you decide you want to become a competitive wrestler And so then you start Competing offseason You start going to camps And you start really becoming dedicated to wrestling And then you devote I mean it's not just wrestling It's any kind of sport or any physical activity Where you have to endure those moments Where you want to quit But you force yourself not to There are so many people out there That just don't have that And that serves you Not just with physical endeavors But with everything else in life With business decisions With everything you develop a discipline You develop the ability to Work harder than everyone else Because you want to succeed You work smarter You're more intense, you're more focused And if you can do that You will be rewarded in life Mostly for the most part Most of the people that work harder than other people Are smarter than other people And put in the work they get ahead And it's hard for people that have been working for other people Doing the bare minimum because they hate their job And they get home and they just eat And play video games It's very difficult for them To come up with that Discipline because they didn't develop it as a part of their Natural personality It's not who they are So for a guy like yourself That was a seal and a guy like yourself That got into Jiu -Jitsu You've always done difficult things Discipline is a normal facet of life That you know rewards you And it yields great results And there's a lot of people out there that never got that lesson They were never taught it And if you don't learn it early on Or you don't again make a concerted effort As an adult to develop that It's not something that magically comes to you I would say that's the benefit of Interconnectivity and social media If you are absent that mentor You can find people that could fit that role I think you just gotta be careful Who you put on a pedestal Yes, yes Well you should get a lot of information From a bunch of different sources for sure But there's like this Good, Jocco's shirt You're talking about Jocco's shirt Jocco's that video Good is one of my favorite videos Ever because it's first of all It's so Jocco And second of all, it's real good advice Like I use it when I'm working out When I'm really tired and I want to quit I'm like good, that means you're gonna get stronger Good, that means you're exhausted That means your endurance is gonna get better Good, keep going You want to quit?

1:34:58Good, don't quit That's better, it's better if you don't quit If you quit, you're gonna fucking hate yourself For the next 24 hours until you work out again And then you're gonna remember what it felt like to quit Now don't quit Good, now you didn't quit Do it again tomorrow Sucks again, good Yeah, it is exhausting I just tell people when shit gets hard You should consider giving up Not everything is worth it You know, that's true about life Things, it's too about sucky jobs For sure, but you have to have an offer amp You have to have an alternative Before you can even start thinking about that You also have to live in a place where there's options Some people are fucked You live in a small town, small community There's nothing there, can't get out, don't have any money Maybe you've got a family No income opportunities Like then luckily there's online And you can make money online and only fans Yeah, selling pictures is your butthole Yeah, there's money in that Is there, I've never been on that website That shit terrifies me I've been on the website but I've never subscribed to one So I've been on and you don't get anything I mean, is it a website What I think it is where you can guess Yeah, so it's naked people on there It varies wildly It's just like really pretty fitness girls We were talking about earlier That maybe show a nipple every now and again Controversial, a little bit of this A little playboy -esque Right, they're just like showing their butt and looking sexy And then there's hardcore pornography Where people just fuck And then there's people that wear masks And they fuck And there's people that wear like they blur out their face And they fuck Yeah, there's feet There's people that make a lot of money just showing their feet Come on Yeah Yeah, one of the girls who works for Shob was making a shit ton of money Just selling feet Yeah, way more money than she was She was making it because she was a part of the show I'm sure, so that got her famous Or at least known As long as it's too consenting adults I actually don't give a shit Yeah, like live your life Listen, if I was a girl working at Wendy's And I found out that I could show my asshole For $10 ,000 a month Like, let's go Would you though?

1:37:02A hundred percent A 100 percent Are you kidding? Of course I would! It's way better than working at Wendy's How do you break that to your kids later in life? You do that, you tell them you didn't have any resources You had no way out So you made your butthole your resource? Yeah Yeah, not ideal Not ideal We've been better if mom was a pop star Mom can't say Didn't have any choices had to sell my butthole good Yeah, I don't know if it's necessarily your butthole It is in some cases But I think it's this You know the fuck wants to look at it At a balloon knot all day long Like what's the deal? There's people out there Oh, I know they are I'm just fascinated what the fuck is wrong with them A lot That's not what worries me What worries me is the kid stuff What worries me is when they keep catching like cops With fucking hard drives Feel with child pornography When they catch principles And the judges And that kind of shit freaks me out Like the idea that there's a bunch of pedophiles out there That are somehow or another avoiding detection And then that are operating That freaks me out Because it seems to be real Have you had many people on who work And that industry the other side of that screen Per se where they're tracking these motherfuckers down I've had some Yeah The very first episode I did What did you talk about your show?

1:38:27Yeah, well this Yeah, so The very first episode I did of the Second podcast that I was doing called Change Agents And I can unpack it later but was with a A guy who essentially the iCack Right internet crimes against children And human trafficking Overseas he came from a special operations background And a lot of guys actually gravitate Towards it from that background But they also I think are making mistakes Thinking that they're going to Take the skill Especially if you were An operator of some kind even though I hate that term You think you're going to go use those skills overseas And be kicking indoors And my personal solution to the problem People who engage in those things Is just permanently shutting the lights off You don't get to do that though That's how you end up in a prison cell with these people It's The volume I sat and talked with that man for about an hour and a half And it's the things that they are exposed to Are fucking haunting And then even where I live locally I was just having a coffee With a mutual friend who works Part of the local sheriff's department They have an iCack division too The internet crimes against children And I'm asking like how do you look at this stuff All day long Because there's the people who are seeking it out For whatever wiring in their head is what it is For the people who are trying to stop it They have to sift their way through that stuff as well And how that doesn't destroy you I don't understand Yeah and that's one of the discussions About our border You know, is it how many children That are coming through just go missing How many children that are coming through Get sex traffic It's not zero It's women as well It's not even just the kids It's the same show Just talked with an individual who is based in South Korea They help facilitate people leaving North Korea Oftentimes they have to do it through China So it's a multi -stop About a 3 ,000 mile journey 60 to 70 % of the women Who leave North Korea Are going to get trafficked along the way Some of them I asked them specifically what was the longest journey That you had heard of as somebody had to take And it was almost 20 years Because I got sold into a marriage along the way Kids had kids with that individual Right, so it's It is everywhere and it's unbelievable That's what Yummy Kim Yummy Park rather talked about when she was on the podcast What was her path to escaping They went to China, which is 13 But her mother was raped in front of her She was sold into sex traffic 60 to 70 % And it's not like, oh, I was sold into sex trafficking for a month It's I have to decade Yeah, you know Scary shit Yeah, it's the worst And the beings are the absolute We're the most horrific species Towards each other It's unbelievable the depths that we will go to For the things that we will do to ourselves So when they track these people That are child predators How do they catch them?

1:41:28Like what is the way Do they find forums online Whether they go to the dark web Like what is the way they encounter these people So in everybody that I've talked to They obviously don't want to talk incredibly Detail because they don't want to tip their hat too much They all kind of say the same thing though It's just in plain sight It's all a matter of kind of knowing Where to look and what to look for And it's like the volume approach Kind of the same from what I've heard of people Or organizations trying to throw drugs at the border Like yeah, you're going to catch 20 % That's cool. You stay busy with that 20 % Because we're focusing on the 80 % that we make profit on So it's kind of like the volume approach And it's just knowing where to look But I think there's Craigslist classified ads Online forums I don't know shit about the dark web But I have heard that term associated with it as well And do they have Unless they have like code words Like how do they how do they There's that and I think a lot of the times These people who are becoming analysts Like I know of one person specifically Like it's their job to they imitate Either A pimp and they get more information from them So they start these dialogues With the people in the industry and they learn more about them They learn the vernacular, they learn how to navigate And then the more educated they become They could portray themselves As somebody who is seeking a service Whatever that I actually hate to use that term But that's kind of what it is in their world And I think And a service meaning like someone who provides kids They're specific in what they're looking for You know, whether it be age Sex What that and what they are Picture video That's always been like the most evil of all Conspiracies about elites Right that there's elites that engage in The cabal It's always been the sickest I have a hard time I have a hard time believing that one Because I just I'm not seeing a single shred of evidence behind it I'm open to being completely wrong And having my mind changed But like the people like yeah Hillary Clinton drinks babies blood Okay Well I don't think that's But people say that shit That's a version of a narrative that is out there I mean is it possible I mean after talking to these people that I've talked to It's probably possible Do I think that the global elites of our government Or would be capable of doing that And not having it some way shape or form come out I think that's slightly less plausible So it's more likely just Insanely sick individuals That just live amongst us Yeah That's what I would say And then So the guy I had on the first episode of Change Agents He works, you know, exclusively We're not exclusively but a lot of it is overseas They can gather all the information they want Then they have to turn it over to local law enforcement And what goes what happens with that information beyond there It's a lot like us overseas If we were to develop a target package And you hand it over to your partner force It's like hey, this is now we're hearing an advise And assist role we can no longer go on target with you Here's the package of information And you know like four targets in a row Like nobody was there It's like oh okay Yeah, you know Because you fall back Corruption, bribe Relationships Hey hold those thoughts because I'm going to piss We'll be right back They're probably offering them money I was just going to say exactly the same thing Damn you Joe Because like oh you want an exclusive We'll pay you 50 grand and come Yeah for people that were just came back We're talking about the guy Why did he go with?

1:45:09What is it news nation They probably gave him some cave Why would he do it exclusively right? I don't know But from what I understand From what Saga were saying See if that's true Jamie That the Washington Post And the New York Times both said no They wouldn't print the story They wouldn't talk to him Which is crazy of true They wouldn't talk to him or they wouldn't print the story Because those are actually different things I don't know I don't know Saga was talking about it though Because there's definitely a journalistic line Sure As far as what they have to be able to prove before they're going to print it The thing is the people that reported on this The people that broke the story Are the same people that broke the story in 2017 About the Pentagon Admitting that there are crafts That are in our environment That somehow or another are behaving in a way that we can't explain And they think of non -human origin So the same New York Times story They're broke in 2017 They kind of blew everybody's mind Six years ago Same people They're broke this as well So reputable sources Fair enough Yeah I don't know man The whole thing to me is like fuck If true, holy shit If not true, do you Boy you feel stupid If true though Kind of cool If true, super cool Yeah Like they're not coming down And well I guess unless you live in Alabama Sucking up with the tractor beam Search around in your butthole They say that anymore So why was that the most common narrative?

1:46:41I don't think it was Was the most common one that I saw I think the probes That became something like folklore Most people talk about some sort of a medical examination Yeah You know like this guy Travis Barker, the Fire and Sky Guy He's got a wild story from the 1970s He was a Walton What did I call him? Travis Barker Travis Walton He's definitely seen aliens Jamie But it was via probably a substance As opposed to Imagine your name is Travis Barker too You're also Travis Barker like hey mom What the fuck She's like I didn't know there was going to be another guy They got famous I think it would be sweet if there was aliens If it was ever proven It doesn't necessarily scare the shit out of me If they're here visiting and they've been observing us They probably have the ability to kind of do whatever they want I don't know that stuff to me is fascinating Well I think it's probably true I mean I certainly would study us Yeah I do study us through social media Which is a super fucked up lens But what we're talking today about examining bots And that like when there's ever a super controversial threat on twitter And someone's saying something Whenever it's some sort of hot button social issue I'll look at like someone's account And I'll go what someone says something really crazy And then I'll go do their account And it's all like that And they have a thousand followers or whatever And it's not a real person You can kind of tell like pretty early on That this is a propaganda site And how many of them are out there?

1:48:15I mean one of the FBI analysts Former what was that guy's position The guy that said that he estimated that there was as much as 80 % of the people on twitter or bots That is wild Wild Because Elon that was like a big part of contention during the purchase They were saying it's 5 % And he's like how do you know Yeah Former FBI and CIA security specialist says more than 80 % of twitter accounts or bots Twitter has been accused of misleading regulators About its protections against spam accounts and hackers By social media companies former security chief Peter Zachko How do you say that Peter? Peter, P -E -I -T -E -R Yeah I bet there is a shit ton I don't know if it's 80 but it's probably half My business partner in the coffee shop is from the tech world And he's like my only resource to talk to AI about And he's not a specialist in AI But what he has said multiple times is it's very interesting when all of the founders of AI and that kind of theory are warning against What it could potentially do and maybe we need to check it a little bit Like perhaps we should pay attention to that For exactly shit like that Yeah I mean if it can move This social awareness And Drive people to conclusions that I don't think anybody necessarily wants like we should probably Do something I'm not I'm not the person to talk to about what should be done But I don't know why people are paying attention No, I don't know why people aren't paying attention either And I don't know if you've ever seen any of Robert Epstein's work But he's a guy that I've had on the podcast as well And Robert Epstein He has done studies on the impact that Google search engine results that are curated Have on on elections Because it's a big deal like if you if you Google Robert Kennedy Jr For instance, you're going to find a bunch probably a bunch of vaccine Stuff that's going to lead people to think that this guy's a cook That that'll probably reach let's say Google that Robert fascinated yeah, let's Google Robert Kennedy Jr And what he was saying essentially is that they By doing this just by curating search results they can shift the percentage of people You know up and down to like the way people view people in the polls Yeah, it's just like see literally in the first sentence though like you were saying the anti -vaccine propaganda Environmental or who's promoted anti -vaccine propaganda bang first thing first thing you see Anti -vaccine propaganda as opposed to what pro -vaccine propaganda Yeah, if you listen to what he says about vaccines It is not unreasonable at all he is not in any way anti -vaccine He's anti -dangerous vaccines and he's anti -lying about the effects of these things Both of those seem utterly reasonable to meet Jamie Do you ever use one of the newer browsers that supposedly not to cure supposed to curate?

1:51:22Yeah, like duck duck goes I'm curious what the difference would be if you threw brave browsers good too There's search engines out there that don't curate Wasn't he his voice is the way it is due to a vaccine right? Yes, yes, he believes it's from the flu vaccine He used to get the flu shot all the time And it's one of the side effects the particular disease that he has that causes voice to get fucked Is it is actual side effect a rare side effect but an actual side effect of that You think he's got a chance at it? I think they're gonna do everything they can to stop him that's for sure They're gonna do everything they can to stop that guy he's a fucking Kennedy He's really reasonable he's very calm very intelligent There's an environmental lawyer for a long time And the things he's saying are not unreasonable at all And he's also his temperament is sensational When challenged on things he's very calm and collected and he's very reasonable He's not an outrageous person So he's brave with duck duck go instead of Google But what Google did is the same thing here it pulls up his Wikipedia Yeah right first so everybody does the Wikipedia first And then similar news stories and then does the same first story that Google had to So New York Times I think what Robert Epstein's data shows is that when subjects are controversial That they will curate the news to fit a very specific narrative Whether especially when it's someone who's viable like Donald Trump Like who might actually win They will curate the news in a certain way Or with someone like Carrie Lake in Arizona Like when it's stuff about the election denying Instead of like looking at what are her claims?

1:53:06Is there any veracity to her claims? Instead of doing that They highlight things in a way and curate things in a way that leads people to make conclusions And those conclusions shift the way people vote You think that the country could survive four more years of Trump? Could they survive four more years of Biden? I don't know if it would actually be four more years of Biden Yeah he might not even make it to the elections I mean I think a good litmus test is Would you want this individual flying? Oh yeah they removed the Robert Kennedy's interview with Mike Tyson When Mike Tyson had him on the podcast, YouTube removed it What else?

1:53:46Because of COVID what they think is COVID misinformation Which by the way has been a 100 % verified Everything that he said is true All the things he said about the side effects All the things he said about the efficacy of the vaccine All the things that he said about how they tested it How they came to the conclusions that it was effective All of it is very disturbing stuff And it's you know they removed Theo Vaughan had an interview with Bobby Kennedy They removed that as well YouTube has gone ever since he decided to run for president They're taking these interviews that have been up for a year plus And they're taking them down How much?

1:54:19Because you're exclusively on Spotify now right? How much issue did you guys have with that on YouTube? Well we came over right when it was happening Okay So if we put stuff up On like say if I had the Robert Malone episode on Spotify And I decided to put the episode as well on YouTube the entire episode I'm sure YouTube would take it down Meanwhile what he's saying has all been proven to be true The same thing with Peter McCullough The only thing that Peter McCullough got wrong is he said that if you get COVID You get over it, you're not going to get it again You do get it again Some people get it bad But what's fascinating is a recent study by the Cleveland Was by the Cleveland Clinic Recent studies showed that the more COVID shots you get The more likely you are to get COVID Really?

1:55:12Yeah And it's the Cleveland Clinic This is like the number two clinic in the country This is like a huge news story And you know if you put that on YouTube You might get demonetized You might get your episode bold But meanwhile CNN can make your face the color of the yellow, Rogan lights behind you And that's okay Yeah First off that shit was hilarious It was hilarious But it's just hilarious First of all, A that you know that they went that far out of the way to lie That they would put a filter on my face Like they had an agenda So hardcore And they were so dumb about it Like everything Like if you really cared about the news Why wouldn't you ask how I got better so quick?

1:55:58Yeah If you really wanted people to get better But there was only one narrative The narratives you must get vaccinated If you don't get vaccines Are the only way to stop this thing It's not true at all It's never been true It's not true It's 100 % not true You can recover from it In fact most people do And if you do get vaccinated There's a possibility That you could have a vaccine injury That's true too If you said any of those things on YouTube They would get you pulled It's because they're sponsored by pharmaceutical drug companies That's why It's not because they care about you I found Mike Tyson's Clips channel Didn't get this taken down Which is Oh that's the CIA Did the CIA kill This also Vaccines can harm you and your children Doesn't have many views Well we should fucking not let any people know about it They'll take that down too They probably don't know about it yet I mean I'm sure it's You know we're dealing with the government They're goofy They probably just wanted the whole episode down They didn't understand Clips Fucking dorks But here's the thing If the government isn't smart enough to understand YouTube Clips How the fuck are they hiding alien spacecraft from it?

1:57:02It's different government It's like saying people If people are so stupid that they smoke meth How are they figuring out satellites? Because some people are stupid in smoke meth Exactly Yeah And some people are stupid that they're in the government And this is the guy they tell To contact YouTube to take down true information Because it doesn't fit with the narrative That guy's probably a dope You know and he probably doesn't understand that Mike Tyson also has Clips He does now We probably fucked it up for everybody Sorry Mike But we have to In the interest of discussing this Yeah I wish that the government was as capable as people think I think parts of the government is capable Yeah I think that's why Well I would say this I think there's highly capable individuals in every segment of government But the larger piece of the government that they work for is probably less effective Yeah Well it's definitely not optimal But they're really good at some things You know And I think what we're dealing with now is Human beings are now exposed to the machine They see it in a way they never saw it before And I think that's what makes this time so interesting And I don't know what's going to happen with that I don't know how that's going to play out But I think people are more aware now of how fucked things are And about how shady these fucking cuts that are running the news organizations are They're so bought and paid for They're so compromised They're so full of shit It's actually hard not to see it It's hard not to see it Like if you look at it with even a fraction of a degree of objectivity It's not going to say impossible But it's really really hard not to see it I would have on both sides the clarity Yeah Oh 100 % for clarity on both sides I would have never thought this five years ago I would have thought they're definitely biased You know you got Fox News is all on the right And you know you got all the other ones that are on the left And you know they have their own agenda And their own opinions on things And a lot of it's silly But I never I never thought it was this transparency as I do now And I think part of that is be me personally being attacked by it And watching it take place Like oh you guys just lie You just lie and you don't make any sense Like if you cared about people You would analyze what happened Like if you're a young healthy person I'm not even young I'm 55 or 54 when this happened Like how in danger are you And then if you look at the actual stats Of how many people actually died And how many of them had comorbidities It's 94 % It's something bonkers And it's not just one comorbidity It's a minimum of four comorbidities Or an average of four It's a shit ton of people that were really really sick already That already had fucked up compromised immune systems And you've got these people That were doctors that are fat And they eat shit And they don't take vitamins And they don't exercise And they think that an injection Is the thing that's going to lead you to health Like it's one of the dumbest ways To approach a complex nuanced situation Which is your own metabolic health And your immune system It's complex It requires a lot of maintenance You've got to take care of your body Because it is literally a biological machine And you got these assholes That are dumping cheeseburgers And fucking milkshakes And they're biological machine And they just sit around doing nothing It does taste good Why so?

2:00:28Look, I'm pro milkshake I am I like all of them I love all of them Vanilla Less artificial colors Healthiest of milkshakes Really? I guess I have to assume Milk is white I guess But I mean, how better are artificial colors? Are they really that bad? I think they're probably bad if you drink them Drink them all day I don't know how you ingest a milkshake But I mean a lot of artificial colors If you drink a lot of it all day So tell your point though I think it's bad for you So how do you... When you see information How do you vet it? So again, to go back to people are probably... I'm very fortunate that I know a lot of people So what I do is generally If something comes up in the news And I'm like, what is that?

2:01:11I'll contact some very intelligent people that I know Where's the apex of that? Yes What would you recommend for people who either don't have that access Or fall back into that category What we were talking about earlier They're busy all the time Working a job to fucking pay their bills It's hard Because there's not a source That you can absolutely trust It's giving you objective news If there was, I think it would be very successful But it would be very hard for them to get sponsors Because if something came up And say if there was some new pharmaceutical drug And it appeared at least initially That there were some very adverse side effects And that they were trying to obfuscate That they were trying to like cover this up And that in your job is to try to expose that But yet those people advertise on your channel That's where things get real slippery And then you talk to the people at the CDC or the FDA And they'll tell you, they'll inform you No, this is propaganda And this is safe and effective And then you find out there's a revolving door With the FDA Where they go right from the FDA Right into these crazy jobs At pharmaceutical drug corporations And make fucking shit piles of money Like what?

2:02:14How is that legal? Or they have names on the patents of the medication While they're still serving? Yes, like Moderna Like they had a patent on the Moderna vaccine Like the whole thing is fucking crazy Because there's so much money involved And there's so much propaganda And then there's so much There's so much where people want to believe That this is going to save them Because they're in this terrifying situation Where this is virus that's spreading across the world That's killing people And the narrative is so terrifying So when you get it, you're horrified So when you get COVID, there's also that Because you think you're going to fucking die Because you've been reading about it and hearing about it And you start panicking And if you panic, your immune system crashes It gets worse So if you're in a state of like heightened anxiety And fear and you can't sleep Now you can't recover because you're not sleeping Right?

2:03:07Now you're freaking out And you've been told that you're going to die And you're so sad and so scared And then you're hearing people like Jimmy Kimmel laughing About unvaccinated people dying on the air And you're like, what the fuck, man? That was a weird look It's crazy It's crazy that someone would make those jokes Especially now knowing what we know About the efficacy of it That it really was only good for a couple of months And that it also might be encouraging variants And that's one of the reasons why virologists tell you To never vaccinate during a pandemic Especially with leaky vaccines With vaccines that don't stop the transmission And don't stop infection Two things they lied about in the beginning They didn't even have studies That showed that it stopped transmission or stopped infection They just fucking said it They said it because they wanted everybody to get vaccinated Do you think it was incompetence or malice?

2:03:59Malice Yeah, I think they wanted money I think they wanted an insane amount of money That came from that And they got it They got it And they're also because of the emergency use authorization They weren't liable They weren't in trouble But employers are now liable So employers that mandated the vaccine And people that had to go and do it Because they needed to keep their job Those people are now suing when they got vaccine injured So we'll see where that goes I think it's fucked it up My larger concern is if Do you remember I'm sure you do The initial data about COVID like the death rate Which would have fucked up a large portion of the world Had it actually been proven to be at that level?

2:04:43I know it because I had Dr. Peter Osterholm on the podcast Sounding the alarm at the beginning of the pandemic And everybody fucking freaked out Everybody freaked out And I wish if we had a time machine That people were more comfortable saying I don't know But this is the best information we have right now We're going to leave it with a pen in it saying And this information we're going to update you as we get it I don't think they could do that I think they're being told what to say I think by Fauci and by the NAD and all that And NIH Well my concern is At least where I live as an example in Montana Which we can agree is a little western A little western Metaphorically and practically Literally western There are horses that will sometimes come down Main Street And I'm fucking here for it They Montana went into lockdown And of course I can only speak about where I live And Montana's huge geographically small population was Just over a million people There was a full lockdown Because we had the same I remember driving home one day And there was a sign on the side of the road That said stay home Don't put others at risk Like Montana was taking it as seriously as anybody else About four weeks into it though Most of Montana was like How about you go fuck yourself And in the places that were locked down the most I think now if something were to come out COVID XX28 Whatever it is I don't know if people would listen to the government Any more based off of the previous experience No I don't think they will Which means we're proper fucked Unless it's more deadly But what if the card gets out in front of the horse Yeah What do you mean?

2:06:24Meaning maybe it is more deadly But people are so hesitant to listen to what the government says Because of their previous experience Right That it gets to a point where it cannot Can't be off -boarded Or railroaded Or pushed into a direction where it can be managed Yeah, I think that's possible Did you find that Cleveland Clinic thing? No I found it I found it an article talking for months ago That says something about it But I don't know No, it's very, very recently Yeah, it was all over Twitter Here, I can get it for you I'll experience it I know posted it If you go to his sub -stack You can find it Go to I'll experience his sub -stack You'll find it for sure

2:07:11We'll find it But you know This whole thing I think it's the fear of not telling the truth Yeah, well this whole thing is exactly what they did with the opioid Epidemic It's exactly what they did with Viox It's exactly what they did with AZT during the AIDS crisis You can go back and watch Dr. Fauci say There's only one drug approved for AIDS And it's AZT because AZT is safe and effective That's what he was saying in the 1980s It was neither of those things It wasn't effective It wasn't safe and it fucking killed people It killed a lot of people So what do people do then? I mean if we have clear Consistent in Examples that are happening over and over and over again The people that are supposed to be in positions with our best interest in mind That are clearly acting Especially when you have a little bit of time From those experiences you can look back And parse out the motivations Whether it's personal, political, monetary What the fuck are people supposed to do?

2:08:09It's a good question It's a very good question It's a very good question and it's scary It's scary for people because if something else did happen That was similar like that I don't think we'd have a different result Other than the reaction to it would be more violent from the people that oppose But the people that believe They fucking believe There's people that do not question the government They do not question MSNBC They do not question CNN They just see headlines Other side of that, I'll too I mean there's people who don't question Fox News Or I'm not super familiar with either side But the belief, like depth of belief And validity of belief are very different things I understand what you're saying And I totally agree with you But there's two like armies that face off That refuse to believe anything other than what their party says And then there's the government Which is supposed to be a combination of those people You know, of the people for the people by the people It's like I'm not so sure That's the most current motto that we should be wearing on our blazers Is this what you're talking about?

2:09:09This thing I mean, does it say Cleveland Clinic? That's why I'm asking No, no, that's a myocarditis thing I don't see him talking about the Cleveland Clinic Did you go to a sub -stack? Yeah, and there's less there That's why I went to his Twitter God damn it I had a guy on the podcast who hit I'll find it for God, Jamie Myocarditis from the vaccine His story was fucking horrendous Yeah, it's scary shit, man Yeah, sub -stack Let me see if I can find it, Jamie

2:09:48Let's pause for a second I'm gonna find it for you This is the one I read

2:09:55So this is the one that I saw And this is the source that I saw it on The Cleveland Clinic peer reviewed study found the more vaccines you've had The higher risk for COVID -19 infection risk This is from June 3rd, 2023 So this is the one that I just read It's like two days ago Yeah, so scroll down A groundbreaking study conducted by the renowned Cleveland Clinic Ranked as the second best hospital in the world has found that a higher number of COVID -19 vaccine doses received Increases the risk of infection with COVID -19 The research conducted with a large sample size Within the healthcare system Capitalized on the early recognition of the need to maintain an effective workforce During the pandemic participants in the trial or all Cleveland Clinic healthcare system employees Working at any Cleveland Clinic facility in Ohio on September 12th, 2022 The first day of the by -evalent vaccine was made accessible to staff The study which has undergone peer review and has been published stated in quotes The risk of COVID -19 also varied by the number of COVID -19 vaccine doses previously received The higher the number of vaccines previously received, the higher the risk of contracting COVID -19 See figure below Furthermore, the study found that the by -evalent vaccines demonstrated an overall effectiveness of about 29 % protecting against infection With SARS -CoV -2 With the Omnichran BA45 lineages were predominant circulating strains Only 29%, however, this effectiveness decreased When the circulating strains were no longer represented in the vaccine In the case of the XBB lineages, the study could not establish a significant protective effect So the multivariable analysis also found that the more recent the last prior COVID -19 episode was The lower the risk of COVID -19 And the greater the number of vaccine doses previously received, the higher the risk of COVID -19 the study added More from the study, the association of the increased risk of COVID -19 with more prior vaccines doses was unexpected A simplistic explanation might be those who receive more doses are more likely to be individuals of higher risk of COVID -19 A small proportion of individuals may have fit this description, however The majority of participants in this study were young and all were eligible to have received less or more than three doses of vaccine by the study start date Which they had every opportunity to do, what does that little line with the arrow mean?

2:12:31What does that mean? Where it says like, where it says received before the three Greater than or equal to Okay, therefore those who received greater than three doses, 46 % less than, excuse me, less than three doses 46 % of the individuals were not eligible to receive the vaccine Rather chose not to fall the CDC's recommendations on maintaining, on remaining updated on COVID -19 vaccination And one could reasonably expect these individuals have been more likely to exhibit risk -taking behavior Despite this, their risk of requiring COVID -19 was lower than that of the participants those receive more prior vaccine doses Ours is not the only study to find a possible association with more prior vaccine doses in a higher risk of COVID -19 During an Omnicron wave in Iceland individuals who had previously received greater than or less, greater than or equal to two doses were found to have a higher odds of reinfection than those who received less than two doses in an unadjusted analysis That's what I'm talking about See, so when you see that and then you see all these stories like, no, actually it's even better Like, what is sponsoring those other studies or those other stories that are interpreting the data very differently than these people are interpreting it at the Cleveland Clinic peer reviewed What's, you know, that's why it's hard to know Like even Jamie who's good at Googling Well, the problem is too that you be able to find an equal number of articles that say the opposite thing And I think my biggest, the biggest, I'll be the correct term for it The biggest takeaway that I have from living through the COVID pandemic was that you had better take control of every aspect of your life that you possibly can and do not outsource your safety and security to a fucking government So, vaccine aside, vaccine, no vaccine, like you need to prioritize yourself and what you actually can control your time, the discipline that we already talked about Like, I'm sorry, but the data is out if you are overweight, you're more susceptible to die from a variety of reasons, healthy, COVID, whatever, whatever the fuck it may be You have to, you have to take ownership over that because then honestly like if you can find 50 articles that say that and 50 that say another problem Uh oh The gateway pendant is a far right fake news website What does that mean though?

2:15:06This website is known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes and conspiracy theories Right, but it's also Wikipedia It was published, the guy who wrote the article is this guy The guy who created the article? Yeah, Jim Hoft Right, but what is the peer -review data from see there's published, click on published And who's the author there? Academic dot Yeah, see a bunch of doctors I don't know how to do that But hold on Jamie, come on Effectiveness of the corona... Sorry Effectiveness of the coronavirus disease, 2019 by valent booster, so here's a study Abstract, the purpose of this study was to evaluate whether by valent corona virus diseases, 2019, COVID -19, vaccine protects against COVID -19 Methods, results Among the 51, what does that say?

2:15:57This is say 51 ,000 doesn't it? Yes it does Okay 51 ,000, 17 employees, COVID -19 occurred in 44 ,000, 24, 8 .7 percent Well, 4 ,000, excuse me, 4 ,000, 24, 8 .7 percent during the study In multi -variable analysis, the by valent vaccinated state was associated with a lower risk of COVID during the BA45 dominant Hazard ratio, 95 percent confidence, and the BQ dominant phases, but decreased the risk... But decreased risk was not found during the XBB dominant phase, the estimated vaccine effectiveness was 29 percent, 95 percent confidence During the BA45 dominant phases, respectively, the risk of COVID -19 also increased with time since the most recent prior COVID -19 episode And with the number of vaccine doses previously received, so it says it right there, that's in the study The risk of COVID -19 also increased with time since the most recent prior COVID -19 episode and with the number of vaccine doses previously received Conclusion, the by valent COVID -19 vaccine given to working age adults afforded modest protection against overall against COVID -19 While the BA45 lineages were dominant circulating strains afforded less protection when the BQ lineages were dominant and effectiveness was not demonstrated when the XBB lineages were dominated But it says very clearly the risk of COVID -19 also increased with time since the most recent infection and with the number of vaccine doses previously received So whatever the fuck Wikipedia says, like, who's editing that?

2:17:47Why are they calling that fake news? Because that's not fake news, that's real Who edits Wikipedia? All of us Yeah But that's one of those things where you have to realize the sheer number of people that have a vested interest in maintaining a narrative and the amount of money that's involved in maintaining a narrative And if they can just have some things like you look at God Jamie, oh, it's fake news look at the fake news website. I know I'm just saying I'm not blaming you, I'm not blaming you I'm not blaming you Exactly what you did when I brought up another website, you're like, oh look, it's a UA website, let's not look at that one I understand Jamie, I understand Jamie, but we went to the actual study I don't know what this is, I know we read it, but I still don't know what this is Someone works for the government Here's a study I want to know I just feel tough about believing a website that is labeled as conspiracy theories, hoaxes, falsehoods, and fake news Right, but guess what?

2:18:41We're labeled that way Yeah I don't think you are You know what study I want to see? I bet we are in Wikipedia Did obesity increase or decrease in the US population during the COVID time period? Oh, that's a good question. I'm going to say increased Yeah, and what should have happened is people should have exited that to your time period as a fucking machine Right They should have been like some people did some people did some people did not Yeah, and I'm glad that they did and you know what they reduced their likely cause of death from Fucking everything Yeah To include COVID Yeah It's like I get it and again you can get lost on that stuff and I think that information is so important But at the end of the day you have to look at yourself in the mirror That's true, but people don't like to do that and people are trying to do that more than ever before I think And I think it's because of the influences of people like Jaco And you know, Goggins and so many people in camhains, so many health conscious people that are promoting healthy Lifestyles and it's very admirable and it's very attractive and it's contagious And you want to do the kind of things that those people are doing You want to live a healthy, robust life of a bunch of different kinds of experiences and enjoy yourself And it's very difficult to do when you're fucked when your body's fucked and you're fat you can't walk up a hill You know and it's the food you eat it's most of what the problem is the food you eat If you change your diet it'll eliminate a giant percentage of those problems and then exercise We'll eliminate a giant bunch of those problems and take fucking vitamins Jesus Christ Please people there's so many people that don't believe in vitamins Or just say either a healthy balanced diet shut the fuck up shut up Just shut your fucking dumb mouth It's not true I wish that message was more contagious than COVID Yeah, unfortunately I mean, fuck seriously I wish that message was as sticky Yeah Metaphorically, by the way, eating a healthy balanced diet is awesome However, most of the people that tell you that aren't eating a healthy balanced diet They're just being fucking lazy and they're trying to come up with a reason why they haven't taken vitamins Yeah You know, it's not hard athletic greens take a little scoop put in a glass of water shake it up You got your vitamins for the day just do it every day.

2:20:54It's not hard. It tastes good It tastes surprisingly less bad than you would think It's good. I like it. Yeah It's fucking good for you. Have you tried to do a jaco stuff? The greens? I have not. He said it to me. I haven't tried it. It's like I'm sure it's good. Pineapple -ish flavor. Yeah, your CBD drink is pineapple -ish I mean, that's probably right up your wheelhouse. Yeah, I like pineapple. Yeah, pineapples are delicious. It's not bad. I just think people, unless you take a view of your life and the things that happen to you with the sense of ownership Yes You're going to be like the wind.

2:21:20There's a flag blowing back and forth in the wind. That's just 100 % true Yeah Also, wait harder to do than actually say Mm -hmm You know, I think some people are going to do it And some people because of COVID or less likely to trust the government and the news And I think more people who got injured by the vaccine have their eyes opened unfortunately Or no people that were injured by it or people that had really bad COVID even though they were a vaccine and did the right thing and got wrecked And they don't understand and they were lied to they got duped You thought the Rachel Maddo telling them the virus stops with you No, it fucking doesn't and you're not a virologist and you're lying and you really have never apologized for that Which is fucking crazy What is the scariest kind of disinformation?

2:22:06I was, yeah, I agree with you. Why do you think they get away with not apologizing or their knowledge? They're in the media. They're bought and paid for. When they be more trustworthy as a media source that they were They don't care. They care about numbers. They just throw as much of numbers of a narrative. They throw it out there as many times during the day as possible It catches people in the headlines and that's what the majority of people read. The majority of people see the headlines They see the cairon running at the bottom of the screen. They believe all that. That's the majority of the people Unfortunately, there's a lot of people that are working up.

2:22:39There's a lot of people I hate the term But I'm going to use it red -pilled. A lot of people got red -pilled. They're like, oh, like this is just about money This whole thing is a money grab. It's spooky as fuck It's really weird, man Because there was so many, I mean when the fucking White House is putting out a thing saying You're looking forward to a winter of illness and death if you're unvaccinated Shit It's literal a literal skeleton is telling you this. Yeah, when a hurricane comes the most important thing is to get vaccinated Get vaccinated Everything is hard on you now, man

2:23:19It's wild. It's wild. This is the reality that we live in and that these trusted sources are all full of shit And they're all bought and paid for. It's fucking scary. It's fucking scary for the average person Because what if something comes along to another medication about for something that you don't even need it for? And they tell you this is going to prevent things. You should take it because it prevents things And then all these people start having problems and they lie about the problems. No, there's no problems In fact, we've shown a positive effect of this and then you have your VAERS report, the VAERS system, the vaccine Advent reporting system, the adverse event reporting system This is like 1 % reported.

2:23:58It's like how many people actually got fucked? How many people are running around out there that don't want to talk about it because they're scared They don't want to get in trouble. You know, and that was a lot during the pandemic. A lot of people who did have vaccine related injuries They're fucking terrified because if they talk about it online people attack them It's pretty wild to the degree that they attack them too. They attack them for legitimately having a medical issue that was outside of their control They're saying they're increasing the vaccine hesitancy Yeah So again, super fucked What do we do?

2:24:29I don't know man, keep doing what we're doing I think I think talking about it helps a lot because people are aware of the actual data now and the facts And then as more people come forth, more studies There was one thing I forget what news organization put it up on Facebook But they said they had something like, do you, does anyone that you know who was unvaccinated died from COVID And then instead of that, everyone underneath it wrote, I know people died from the vaccine And they started listing all these people got strokes and heart attacks And it was fucking thousands of them and thousands of them was crazy And that was an eye opening moment as well Yeah Yeah, you're overall, look, it's not that we shouldn't care for people that are injured and sick It's not that we like, if you're fat and you're fucked, you're like, tough shit You know, you shouldn't be fat now you're gonna die No, that's not what we're saying We're saying you shouldn't be fat and you can do something about that It's one of the rare things that you can absolutely change It's one of the rare things about your body that you with discipline and with a desire to change, you can do it It's amount, the food that you put in, the kind of food you put in your body and the amount you put in your body You can vary that, it can be done, it is not easy But it can be done in the results of spectacular If you think about it, as far as everything that's gonna happen to you in life or everything you're gonna experience navigating through life It's actually one of the very few things you have control over Yeah I do that exercise with people when I'll sit down and talk with them specifically about leadership and where you want to allocate your energy It's simple, just like draw up on a piece of paper and line down the middle What can you control and what are you concerned with?

2:26:17Like the circle of influence versus circle of control There's only one thing that actually ends up in the control category That's yourself Yeah In the concern category, holy shit Depending on how much time you have, you can go page after page after page after page after page But at any point in time in your life, you have total incomplete control Except for, I know there are abnormalities that prevent people from having a large amount of control over their body because it's wired and properly for lack of a better term But beyond that, you have total incomplete control on the outcome It's one of the few things, if not the only thing that you can actually control in your life And I don't understand why people can't wrap their head around that concept Nothing that you and I talk about is going to change our political system It's not going to change the articles that are written, it's not going to change Wikipedia or any of the stuff that we've talked about But you can make a decision with the time that you have to make yourself better and therefore more resilient to when that shit happens You can do that, but one thing talking about it does do is it makes people aware that that's a real issue Yeah, and that changes, that changes how people vote, it changes how people interact, it changes what people accept It changes what people stand up against, it changes what people are willing to tolerate Yeah, that does I agree But the most impactful step I think people can take is focusing on getting their own house in order Wouldn't that be nice if that was a narrative that the government was saying?

2:27:43Yeah, go out and get extra stuff What if they just said vitamin D, what if they just explained that vitamin D What was the study, did we ever find a study that said that 74 % of all hospitalizations and death could have been prevented with vitamin D? What? Do you know that there's some bananas number of people that were in the ICU for COVID that were deficient in vitamin D? It was nuts, it's like 84%, and only 4 % had sufficient levels of vitamin D I guess that doesn't surprise me because most people seem to live indoors a lot more And don't supplement And don't supplement, that's the big one And then especially in the winter, you're not going outside, you're not getting vitamin D from the sun Which is the best way to get it Especially where I live, you get about four hours Yeah, what is it like in the winter?

2:28:29I mean, I do actually think that people who are local are from Montana because I am not a Montana And I'm not allowed to say that because I'm not from there or haven't lived there for 40 plus fucking years But yeah, the sun will come up about 9 .30 in the morning and go down about 3 .30 to 4 in the afternoon It's a bespoke experience Yeah, I'll find that article, the 74 % if you could find it Jamie But vitamin D is a massive factor in your immune system Yep Hold on a second, find it here I have something that says more than 80 % of COVID patients at a hospital in Spain had a vitamin D deficiency According to a study Yeah But nothing specifically with 74 % off the first search Yeah, I'll find it later And who knows if that was real too But it makes sense It has a massive effect on your immune system, massive effect on just your overall metabolic health You're not supposed to be deficient in vitamin D It's the reason why people got white The reason why people got white is because when they migrated out of Africa They went to places that had less sunlight And so their skin became like a fucking solar panel for vitamin D You can feel it in the wintertime in northern Montana Like there's a difference in...

2:29:47I would say almost even emotional state too, which I think is just from that lack It's rough to get out Seasonal effect of disorder That affects people deeply in the Pacific Northwest Yes, where it rains all the time Those people get fucking depressed Yeah And it's not just because it's not sunny out I think I wish it was sunny, I'd be happy It's also your body If you're not a person that supplements with vitamin D And you don't do something to make your body produce more vitamin D You're kind of fucked And it's obviously not a one -shot one -size -fits -all cure It's not the only thing you can do But obesity is probably the number one thing Obesity is gigantic It fucks you in so many ways And it fucked you particularly with COVID Because there's something about fat And the way COVID...

2:30:34COVID... It had some effect that accelerated the effect of COVID Just by the percentage of body fat you have What are your thoughts on people trying to make it So you can't talk about obesity We're out of being a social issue That's hilarious That's people that are fat that don't want to lose weight There's no one who's ripped There's no one who's ripped who doesn't want you to talk about obesity Nobody is in great shape who fucking goes to CrossFit every day It's like, hey, obesity's not something we should discuss Like, come on, of course Especially people that have lost weight Like guys like Ethan Soupli, you know that guy?

2:31:09Yeah He was like fucking enormous And now he looks great Like that guy did it the right way Slow, hard work I mean a lot of people are aware of it That's why ozemic is almost impossible for people to get now It's like ozemic Yeah, it's a weight loss peptide that people are taking now You never heard of it? I can't keep up with this shit Yeah, it's a very popular weight loss drug that I know many people that are on it I believe Elon Musk is on it Tons of people are on it And it makes you lose weight It decreases your appetite Do you change anything else? Or you just integrate kills your appetite Okay Yeah And people who are on it they get satisfied with food quicker So do they have to stay on it or does it make like a long term change Or like you're on the train and you're on the train for the rest of your life I don't know It's a good question I've read both I've read that some people because of the fact that they do see positive results Want to maintain those positive results And in the back They in turn will change their healthy habits because they like what they see Yeah And then I've also read that you have to be on it forever Because people that are on it they're just going to go back to their old ways And you know, I don't know I'm not exactly sure There's proponents and opponents of that stuff And one of the major opponents of it is my friend Peter Attia who I trust greatly on these kind of things He says it actually makes you thinner and lighter but fatter You get a higher percentage of body fat That's a wild trade off Yeah I don't even understand how that works Thinner and lighter but fatter Yeah, he said that I don't know what he means by that But I do know that people do lose not just muscle or not just fat rather They lose muscle, connective tissue and bone mass when they lose the weight But I think that is also indicative of people who are losing the weight Not eating and also not strength training I think if you strength trained you probably could mitigate a lot of that And then look I think anything that makes you fucking lighter and healthier is good And anything that if you're fat and that's what you need, go for it This is what Peter said about it Okay, here he says What happens to your body composition?

2:33:22Ozympic may prompt equal muscle to fat loss Says Attia meaning even though you see the number on the scale drop Your fat to muscle percentage is skyrocketing An Instagram story Attia notes that some muscle loss is expected in weight loss patients But drugs like Ozympic can exacerbate the issue Almost without exception every patient we put on this drug has lost muscle mass And they have lost it at a rate that alarms me he says If you lost 10 pounds of muscle and 10 pounds of fat and go from 200 to 180 Would that be good? Only if you're more than 50 % body fat Attia has drawn a line in the sand at his practice after observing these outcomes Telling patients they must have a dexascant first to test their bone density And body composition before going on ozympic Well that's very smart Yeah, that sounds totally fair and reasonable I think people do diet hardcore which I think is part of the reason why they're losing weight Is because they're eating way less calories When you do that, it doesn't have a whole...

2:34:21It's not an overall 100 % positive effect on your body It's not like only the fat goes away You definitely lose muscle mass Everybody does when they go on a hardcore diet I think you should eat reasonably And try to choke a motherfucker as often as possible That's a good way to lose weight Holy shit That's a good way to exercise too because it's fun Physically and mentally Yeah Like if you enjoy shit that's hard and puzzles and again you want to try to turn yourself incrementally into a machine Yes Not a bad approach It's a good approach And it's an approach that's shockingly favored by so many really intelligent people Which is, I love that Zuckerberg is doing it I love it I love this match I love it It's great Guys out there is trained by Dave Camerillo He's doing the right thing He's out there getting after it I love it I think the fact that he went out to a Would appear to be a local Jiu -Jitsu comp Slap and bump and get after it Good on you, man It's awesome Yeah How big is he?

2:35:17He probably is 150, 160 No, fuck that guy Yeah, I think he probably goes fuck that guy What do you have brown belt now? 100 % fuck that guy Yeah He can start off on top Oh, don't be mean Look at that, it's good out He's going to be of a maintained top position That's hilarious I think somebody in that sphere willing to be that Literally that vulnerable Yes Physically vulnerable Yes And just like I'm going to go out into the public spectrum and do that I have nothing but respect that's fucking awesome He's a fascinating guy And he's very intellectually curious And he's curious about testing himself He loves competition You think he'll stick with it?

2:35:54Yes Yeah, I think he's going to get really good at it I hope so Those are the kind of guys that get really good at it Really smart guys Like how many guys in your gym that are like really good? Like not even very strong Like very small guys Which is very intelligent And like Gabe Tuddle, the head instructor at 10th planet Over, he's fucking amazing He's like 155 pounds Max, 150 And he's a fucking killer Yeah, they're savages And it's just intelligence and understanding the positions And drilling it and doing it over and over again And getting better and better and better And it's just such a healthy lifestyle But so is hiking So is a lot of things There's a lot of things you can do that you'll enjoy That can get your body healthier None of those things help you in a parking lot though That is true Not that I would recommend taking Yeah, I don't know if I'd go to the ground in the parking lot That shit hurts No, you got to learn a little striking How much are you getting to train?

2:36:45No, I'm not right now That's why I got this I was ready to start rolling again And I fucked my back up dead left thing You're more no -guy than Gabe Yeah, but I train to Gabe too Has it always been that way for you? I did both Yeah, I got my black belt to John Jock Which I know after I got my black belt through Eddie Provill I saw the video if you get your black belt from Eddie, I was cool It's pretty intense Yeah, it's pretty awesome Yeah It gives you a great understanding I've told you this before on here like I had no idea about the UFC Until I started trading myself like You know, it's not actually boring when they're up on the cage No And don't let that motherfucker up at all No He earned that Yes, stay down there and get out of it Get out if you can But I'll set a tough shit Just stand up, you know Yeah If you want to Yeah If you can But I mean, but that's the thing It's like, if it's only five minutes Why are they having any stand -ups?

2:37:37The only people who say Well, there is the entertainment aspect of it But I think anybody who's trained for any small section of time Would say, no, you should probably leave them there Because the micro -battle that's going on down there Yeah It's fucking awesome And it's hard to get someone to the ground If you get some of the ground, you're fucking exhausted And you can hold them there And catch a break for a few seconds If the audience is booing, tough, shit If that guy doesn't like it, get up But the one thing that drives me crazy When I see someone on the bottom And look at the referee, like, come on Like, come on, no, get up Don't try to con the referee Figure out a way, pummel, get under You know, fucking try to sweep them Do something Try to get your feet on the hips Try to create some space Get back up to your feet, do something What was your egg game?

2:38:21I mean, I'm a strangulation specialist That's what I like I like head and arm chokes Oh, you were telling me about this years ago That you, like, busted out a vertebrae And your neck, because you were pushing so hard to the neck Yeah, I fucked up my neck from using it That's how I fucked it up from using it I'm sure I fucked it up from, you know, not tapping too So, like, head and arm triangle? Yeah, I have a very good head and arm triangle From mount? Yes God, I can't finish that I don't have the right pressure for that It's not even a pressure thing It's a technique thing, it's a squeeze thing You know, like, I...

2:38:56That's what I mean, I'm not... I have yet to find, like, the feel of where the... Everything needs to be lined up So when you squeeze, it's just a news you're not getting out of I had Jillian Robertson on And she was talking about her squeeze And her squeeze is so good, she doesn't even go for hooks She's just a back specialist She gets that choke and she doesn't even go fuck about hooks She just crushes girls' necks She's such an assassin out of two And she just developed that squeeze She just developed it, so she just has this total... Did you ever see her match with Rose Nama Unis? Yes Woo!

2:39:28Amazing, right? Yeah She just took her back and just never let it go It was beautiful And that squeeze, she never hooks in then either Her fucking squeeze is nasty And that was Marcello, there's a lot of guys like that They developed that squeeze, that necks squeeze You know, but... Because I trained at a 10th planet I developed a very good rubber guard to very flexible off my back And that's one thing that's always frustrated me in the UFC That people that don't understand That you can control someone from like a mission control position They don't understand how to utilize a no -key guard effectively But then you got guys like Paul Craig That are fucking assassins off their back That guy catches you in his triangle You are a fucked man Yeah You know, it's just a matter of like honing it down to this razor sharp But when you're doing MMA, the problem is there's so many different things you have to learn You have to learn to take down defense, you have to learn this, you have to learn that It's hard to develop like an elite Jiu -Jitsu game along with learning all those other things Where would you start somebody?

2:40:33Wrestling Wrestling Wrestling I think wrestling is the number one skill Because if you can choose to take a fight to the ground or not If you're a superior wrestler, the person's always worried about being taken down I think wrestlers have a massive advantage But that said, an elite kickboxer has a massive advantage because every fight starts standing up Yeah And if you can't take him down, if he develops good takedown defense, he starts chopping away at those legs Woof What does that sound like in person? Horrible Fuck Especially dude, Wideman, first of all, congrats to Chris Wideman, he's coming back He's gonna be at 292 in Boston He's going to be fighting again in August, which is amazing But that was the worst sound I ever heard in the Octagon When he threw that leg kick at Uriahal and Uriah checked it and Chris's shinbone Just snapped in half The crack of the sound Like we played it back, just so you could hear the crack Like as he threw the kick full blast And just hit the worst spot possible Right below the knee on the shin of Uriahal where it's just It's just an immovable force And crack As horrible No thanks Fuck all that I've seen plenty of gnarly things in my days, I have no interest to watch that shit Yeah, I've seen quite a few now, I've seen quite a few leg breaks like that You still love and do in the UFC?

2:41:56I love it, yeah, it's exciting, it's fun, I always look forward to it You do a good job at it, thank you It's good, I care You know, I really do If I didn't, I wouldn't do it anymore, but I love it What do you wear all black? Sometimes I don't, I wore white before What's with these questions? What do you check? I watch you on TV and I'm like The fuck is Joe wearing all black for it? They bought me a suit All right, Texas would be like, what the fuck are you doing then black? What's wrong with black? First of all, it's good because I always, actually you did wear a suit not too long ago Yeah, people bleed on me a lot, they sweat on me a lot That's what I figured it was Yeah, black doesn't show it up as much, plus it looks good I thought I figured Lex bought you like a suit or something One day and you're like, okay Does that do you roll around in the suit all the time?

2:42:38Or is that just his podcast? Just a joke I like the chicken Oh, you mean on his podcast? Yeah I mean roll around, I thought you meant roll Oh no, he doesn't roll, he rolls He's a black belt Yeah, I know, not in the suit is what I'm saying No, but he probably would Yeah, no, he just likes looking professional I get it I can't do it, I don't have it in me Yeah, or acting professional, I just can't do it Yeah All right, I gotta wrap this up, my brother Tell everybody your new show It is called Change Agents And broadly, it is trying to expose people to a variety of issues Social, economic, political Some of the people you've had on Like I had Siddharthon who was talking about coal mining Yeah Fuck that'll blow your socks off Make you reconsider like how ethically conscious we are with the decisions that we make I mean, it's everything from North Korea Digital slavery, kleptocracy What happens to people who are disabled in war zones Never had thought about that once Until I had that individual on But the coolest thing and the reason I agreed to do it is One, produced by our good friend, Jack Carr Through Iron Cloud, the production company But we get to leave people with Hey, if you are disturbed by this or interested in this Here's something you can do about it Yeah Which there's more issues than time in the day, unfortunately But some people ring true with other issues And it at least exposes people on them like Hey, if you wanna do more Do more Awesome Yeah, all right, that's what it's all about Well, thanks brother, always good to see you Yeah, good to see you too All right, all right, bye