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The Joe Rogan Experience #2000 - Duncan Trussell
Introduction Joe Rogan hosts Duncan Trussell, a stand-up comic, writer, actor, and creator of "The Midnight Gospel" on Netflix. The episode dives into a myriad of topics, combining humor with deeper philosophical and existential conversations.
Episode Highlights
Identity and Anonymity
- Furry Culture: Joe and Duncan humorously discuss identifying as "furries" and attending furry conventions, exploring themes of anonymity and self-expression.
- Mascots and Disneyland: They acknowledge the challenges faced by mascots at theme parks, expressing admiration for their resilience.
Social Commentary
- Human Nature and Society: They touch on humanity's inherent strangeness and the concept of "cops in the head," reflecting on societal self-regulation.
- Parenting and Future Generations: The duo discusses the future of parenting, influenced by technological advancements like self-driving cars.
Technological and Societal Concerns
- Autonomous Vehicles: Joe and Duncan discuss the implications of autonomous vehicles and the potential freedom issues they present.
- Surveillance and Control: Concerns about technology being used to control individuals, possibly leading to self-censorship and societal compliance.
Conspiracy Theories and Historical Events
- CIA and Government Actions: They reflect on historical government actions, such as drug trafficking for funding purposes, and the lack of accountability for past conspiracies.
- Alien and UFO Phenomena: Discussion on the increasing evidence and governmental acknowledgment of UFOs, emphasizing the potential for a paradigm shift.
Spirituality and Existence
- Reincarnation and Karma: Duncan shares Buddhist perspectives on reincarnation and karma, discussing how personal proclivities affect one's life and potential future lives.
- Psychedelics: They explore the impact of psychedelics on human consciousness and their potential therapeutic benefits.
Political and Social Dynamics
- Political Leaders and Integrity: Critique of political figures like Lindsey Graham for their aggressive rhetoric, emphasizing the need for peace and diplomacy.
- Media Influence: Concerns about media bias, censorship, and the influence of pharmaceutical advertising on public perception.
Environmental and Global Issues
- Climate Change and Human Impact: Discussion on climate change, with a critical view of how it is sometimes addressed in political and social narratives.
- Canada's Censorship Laws: Criticism of Canada's Bill C-11 and its implications for freedom of expression and control over digital content.
Personal Growth and Reflection
- Adversity and Success: Joe and Duncan discuss the role of adversity in personal development and the importance of confronting challenges.
- Community and Connection: The value of community, altruism, and personal connections, with stories of positive neighborly interactions.
Conclusion The episode encapsulates a wide range of discussions, from humorous to deeply philosophical, touching on societal norms, technological advancements, and the potential for human and cultural evolution. Duncan and Joe's dynamic offers a blend of comedy and thought-provoking insights, encouraging listeners to question and reflect on modern life and its complexities.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:16I'm so excited to be here with you today. Yeah. This is our first podcast coming out as our true selves. We're furry! Yeah, we've been holding it in forever. This is my true identity. Uh, and you know what? It's just eats me alive to not tell how we met at a furry con.
0:38Well, we didn't know that we met there. Remember? Well, yeah, I didn't know who you were for a long time. Yeah, we didn't know. I'm like, oh my god, you're Miyamio. Dude, it blew my mind. I mean, to me, that is proof for an assimilation. Mmm. Because what are the odds? They're not good. What are the odds, man? The odds are also not good that I'm going to keep this fucking helmet on. Oh, no, they're not good for me. I'm not keeping this on, dude. It's a fucking barely breeze. How do they do it? I don't know. They fuck with these things on. How do you fuck with this on? They're heroes. Total heroes.
1:15Total respect for furry now. Respect for the furry community. Look, I got the feet on and everything. It's like beacrum fucking. Yeah, it's very hot in here. If you could fuck with this on, you're an American hero. Yeah, that's what I feel. David Coggins needs to put on one of these things. It's fucked for an hour. He should. Yeah, you think you're so cool running for a thousand miles? How about fuck for four and a half minutes with this on? I can't fuck for four and a half minutes without a dime. This is like sprinting uphill. This is really brutal and just thinking about padding around a Ramata in one of these things.
1:56I get it. Or land. I get it when I put it on. I get it. I know why they do it. I don't know why all of them do it. Wait, why? Why do you think they do it? I think they do it because it offers you an anonymity that is impossible any other way. Right. And it turns you into a your image. The visual that people get of you is this adorable cute mascot. Everybody loves a mascot. The mascot is literally here to pump everybody up and yay and they don't talk and everybody loves them. Yeah. Right. People at Disneyland same thing. Wait, they don't talk. No. They don't talk. Like if you meet goofy, goofy doesn't say jack shit to you.
2:42We went to goofy's kitchen. Goofy doesn't talk. Yeah, it's like I can't do it. Oh my God. Oh, it's so hard to breathe. It's so hard to breathe. How about those fucking people that work at Disneyland to wear these things and walk around in the heat in the summer? Respect to them. Dude, those Disneyland. Like the people who do this at Disneyland. Heroes. They party. I bet I heard it. It's like insane when they get off work. Like they fucking party. First of all, it's not even their fault. Their brains have been cooked all day. Do you know what kind of effect that must have? Oh my God. Oh my God.
3:17The function. Dude, like while we're bitching because they made us wear masks on planes. They're coming around in a hot box. I bet they made a mask under their stupid mask. Guaranteed. Yeah, I bet they do. Yeah, I bet they do. Yeah, those mask up. You had to mask up and you're in your goofy outfit. Oh, I got good outfits though. These are dope. Dude, these are incredible. And it's kind of sad that we can't. We're pussies of all the of all the costumes we've worn. Yeah. This I think this is the least time we've spent. Yeah, even the hoods. But I was like almost like hyperventilating in there. Dude, I was panicking.
3:59Yeah.
4:03Oh, you can see this awful wall. Yeah. It's terrible. But I didn't don't you get it though. If you were like a very tortured socially awkward person, your life has just been a mess. But you are for whatever reason attracted sexually to the idea of it or maybe not even sexually maybe just attracted the idea of it. But then you do it and you just you get to be not just innocuous, not just like someone that doesn't get like someone that gets picked on not just not that. But instead attractive. You're this adorable thing. You're adorable. Like hey, and people want they come to the different energy.
4:42Dude, I've seen some really hot furry porn. Like I've seen some incredible furry porn. What's the worst furry point? If you ever seen something like God, you guys aren't even trying. Those are still shots usually like weird polaroids and stuff of like like so you know, generally those are like solo furries who are banging a stuffed animal. Like.
5:05That sucks. That's not cool. That's not cool. But some of them do like put a flashlight in a stuffed animal. No, they're not they're not that advanced. They just rip a hole and the whole world. And the fuck things but just like leave their crusted gizz on it as some work of achievement or something really bad. Oh really bad human beings are so weird in so many ways. Yes. In so many ways. But it's like it's so funny. It's like media like Norman Rockwell paintings. There's just like image of us that we are when we're at our best the family dinner table in a 1980s movie. Yeah. Yeah. That's us where we're at our best.
5:47Everyone's getting along. How school going junior. Yeah. Junior's doing great. But the reality is like there's no license to get a person. You don't have a license to become pregnant. You don't you don't have to go through any qualification process. It's literally the most important thing for the future of the human race. Yeah. That people who have children and raise those children are capable of doing it. You capable of raising a well adjusted person. Yeah. Like any person growing up as a human being today. Baby to grown up. Like you're born today. And you got to become a grown up in this fucking wacky world.
6:31Yeah. Good luck being normal. Oh my god. This is having kids right now. And like just having like a vague understanding of Kurzweil's predictions for the singularity. Yeah. And just like considering like you know with my kid I will tell him like with the car. I'm like you know probably when you're old enough to drive they won't have steering bills anymore. You're probably not going to be driving the way I do. Because definitely don't you think like by if they can just prove see this this meat heads like me that would be like folk that bro I want to drive my own fucking car. Yeah. But if they can eliminate all deaths.
7:14You're going to have to take cars like that to a track. You're going to have to do you're going to have to take the cars that I enjoy. Yeah. You're going to take them to a track and drive around. Sure. It's not going to be your transportation. You don't think in 10 years that it's going to be very possible. Very possible. It'll be it'll be a civil like a rule fight. Like there will be some dispute about whether or not people accept that. Oh yeah. It's going to be a freedom issue with a lot of folks. It is a freedom issue. It is. Well it certainly is if you have a totalitarian government because there's only one way that a car can drive itself autonomously.
7:52It has to be connected to like insane technology. Yeah. That allows all sorts of things like like what a Tesla does like you get updates online on your Tesla. They just send you an update. They fix things. They make things better. They make the auto driving feature better. If that's the case, like if somebody just decides to shut your car off. Yeah. You're not allowed to drive. Don't come. We don't like your views on COVID vaccines. No. Yeah. So are your tweets. Yeah. I don't want to let you think about the world and life and love. Yeah. You're confusing people. Yeah. You didn't jog today. You don't think exactly the way I want you to think.
8:29So we're going to steer you and everybody who's paying attention in the same direction. And the everybody's paying attention part is huge because there's more self policing than there is policing. There's more people that get scared of not going along with narratives. And there are then there are people enforcing. You know what that's called cops in the head. That's a name for cops in the head. It's like this is when I was in college. I don't remember what the who like came up with it. But basically they're studying like neighborhoods that had like huge police presence. You know, like bad areas like hyper low income areas that like just like that that.
9:09Um, you can do the math and like that. So basically the cops realize like they didn't have to patrol anymore after certain amount of time because people assimilate the police state inside of them. And just like you're saying now you're policing yourself. Yeah. And that is the ultimate when you think about like trying to save money. When you think about controlling populations. Or when you think about like, you know, the huge problem of, um, of like empire is like once you spread out too far, it's incredibly expensive to keep everything supplied and everything in control and to keep your like commanders doing what you say.
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11:32What you want to do is get your philosophy into the brain of the people that you have. I think the problem today is that there's there's so many more interesting narratives than the official narrative. There's what it used to be that you had a president that would stand up and talk to people and you know he would give these speeches that everyone would listen to. Yeah. And that's Eisenhower at the end of his terms when he's saying he's warning America about the military industrial complex. That's that crazy. There's a machine is warning us. You know that there's a machine that wants to go to war.
12:09Yeah. And you have to be very careful that he's warning us about that. And this is like you could tell the next president to not ever say that. And everybody else sort of steps in line. So you tell the next president don't talk about that. You talk about the conflicts overseas. You talk about the desire to spread democracy. Yeah. And you talk about these people that are a threat to everyone because I have weapons of mass destruction. You got to follow a very, very, very specific narrative. And that's all we had forever. Forever. And so there was always people that would have cocktail parties and they would meet at coffee shops.
12:45And then go, do you know what's really going on? Because this is what I think. I think the CIA is giving people LSD. Like what? What the fuck are you talking about? Yeah. In other meetings where people in South Central were like, I think the government's bringing drugs in here. And everybody's like, no fucking one. Yeah. No way. They wouldn't do that. Right. They wouldn't do that. But if you were, I mean, look, let's pretend you're a really good guy in your government agent. Right. You're the best. You want nothing but freedom in America and spread democracy around the globe. But Congress want to prove funding some rebels.
13:24And there's the only one way you got to get this guy out of office. This guy's not playing ball. Yeah. With the agenda. He's a terrible dictator. Yeah. You got to get rid of him. And we need to fund this. We need to fund these rebels. So we're just going to sell some drugs. So crazy. But if you think about the fact that if you, if you're in the DEA, or if you're in the CIA or the FBI or any, any like major, or you're Intel organization, they know the futility of the amount of drugs that are being brought into this country. And that there's a reason why, because there's a demand in this country.
13:58Right. You're not going to change it. You're not going to change it. And you see all these fucking scumbags making billions. Yeah. And you're like, well, why don't I make some fucking money? Right. Why don't we make some fucking money and do some good with it? Right. Sure. That's the all over North story. Dude, here's the perfect business model. You create a situation where you are selling drugs to people and then arresting them and taking your drugs back plus all their stuff. And then reselling the drugs for instance, repeat. And you know who to arrest because you're selling it to the beard car your friend.
14:37And you just keep it's basically like throwing out fishing nets, man. You just throw out the nets, let them sell the drugs long enough to get a shit ton of money, some nice cars pull the nets back in. You got the drugs, you got the cars, you got the money. It's an incredible and also the, you know, I'm sometimes suspicious regarding like the idea that they incinerate the drugs that they. They come. Why? They someone coming along. Oh, we got that. We'll take care of it. We'll incinerate it. It gets the incinerator. Some fucking guys who they just got out of the naval academy. You know, like we got it.
15:14Yeah, we got it. No problem. Yeah. And they fucking scored that off to some special boat. Yeah. And there's a precedent for this. I mean, this isn't conspiracy. Like I was proven that like this shit is. Remember that CIA playing the crash with all the cocaine on it. Tons. It was over. It was overweight. That's why crashed because it had so much coke. Reed took them down. I think it had something crazy like a thousand pounds of coke. That is so much coke. I can even imagine how much coke that is. How much was it? How many pounds was it? 3 .3 tons. Oh my God. 3 .3. How much does an elephant weigh?
15:55How many elephants worth a coke is that? Dude, that's crazy. That's CIA coke, too. You know, that's not bad coke. That's like something incredible. Oh my God. It's pure. Pure rock flake. The stuff that Eric Clapton used to get. Jesus Christ just makes your entire body go numb. I don't like coke though. But do do do do look at all the coke that he had. Oh my God. That's the same. Oh my God. That is fucking crazy. Look at that. Okay, get this fucking. Yeah, it happened to me in the five seconds. I had on to a bunch of little hairs. Holy shit, man. You want to napkin or something? No, I'm alright.
16:36How many bags of that do you think it consumed it like an average Coachella? How many bags of that did Joey Diaz do during his prime? That's what I want to know.
16:49That might be like Joey Diaz's cocaine career right there. Oh man, that'd be so cool. If there was a way to look at all the drugs you've done. Like if you could like, you know, have them laid out in front of you over the course of a lifetime. Oh my God. You'd be terrified. It would be a room. It would be exciting. The amount of weed. Oh dear. The volume just a sheer volume. Boos. Oh, just think it all over just just fucking piles of ketamine. Wow. And if you do it chart to the size of your room versus the bad decisions you've made in your life. I bet you would find some correlations. Yes, that's for sure.
17:29100%. Absolutely, man. Yeah, you do you do have to I mean, there's just no way around it. This is why I think karma is a wonderful. And perfect way to articulate this, which is just like, where are you at? Everything around you. That's your karma. Like that's you. This is your karma. And then I love that because it keeps me from like going to victim. You know, and I look you look around at everything. You're like. Whatever it is good. You did that for yourself. Bad. You did that to yourself. And you just have to deal with it. But you know, there's enough. Not necessarily right babies get shot and drive buys.
18:06Well, yeah. Okay. Yes. The baby thing. I mean, I I've heard there's some like theoretical. There's two ways to look at it. One, Occam's razor. It's the same problem like theist face in trying to explain why awful things happen to babies. You know what I think what I think karma is an element. Yeah, element of existence. But it's not it's not a rule. It's like there are evil people live to be a hundred get away with it. Well for karma to really work, you need reincarnation. That's where the math goes into the unquana viable. So like so for karma to really work. I mean, it could work in a very simple mechanistic way with just one life.
18:45But the idea is that there's different types of karma. So there's the karma that's happening right now. This is like flowering karma. But there's karma like seeds of shit that you did a while ago. Like when I was suddenly like someone calls you up and is like, Hey, I'm your son. You're like, What? Like yeah, I'm your kid. That's that's like a that seed has been in you. And then it grows into the present moment. That's and then there's karma. It's the same idea, but from past lives. So that's where it gets really fucking weird. And I guess there's some like very blurry way you could connect that to epigenetics.
19:26You know what I mean? It's like epigenetics is sort of the way like you get reincarnation into biology. Except it's obviously not reincarnation. It's your ancestors. But it's essentially the same concept except one is quantifiable. The other is mystical. I wonder if if epigenetics is if you're if you're imparting some of your mind, some of your thinking to a child. Yeah. Would I wonder what effect it would have at the age you were when you had the child? Yeah. Of true. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, yeah. Like your self. Al Pacino's kid is going to be amazing. Amazing. He's 82 82 shooting live rounds.
20:17Incredible. Into a 29 year old hottie. And people are fucking mad at him. What do they matter? They're mad because they think if you're that old, you're not going to be able to care for that child. Well, that's one. That's the to me. If you that's the most logical. If you are going to be such an asshole that you want to that you're criticizing Al Pacino for pro creating don't you want more Pacinos? He's a great fucking actor. And you know, but but the other one is just like that's that age gap is insurmountable and why don't think it was his idea. No. Yeah, I think he he didn't he have a paternity test.
21:00Exclusive, this is a real special coming at this time. Al Pacino 83 break silence to celebrate 29 year old girlfriend's pregnancy after claims he demanded paternity test because she hoodwinked him. Yeah, there is. The actor revealed his girlfriend, nor alpha was we're expecting last week. And this report claimed that Al was not pleased over the baby, but how do we know? You know, it's like people say things like that. Because look right now, he has now confirmed underneath it says his voice to his delight. Sources told Daily Mail that wasn't true, which is now confirmed. So that means it wasn't true.
21:38Not true. He was they didn't hoodwink him. Yeah. So the way they phrase that that's weird. Sources told Daily Mail that wasn't true, which he is now confirmed. But look at the headline. Look at the headline. Fucking assholes. This is so crazy. They're basically saying this is not true. So he's delighted to have a baby with his girlfriend. Yeah. And so people made up this story and we read it. Yeah, why not just could be like Al Pacino chopped his kid into bits and then underneath say he didn't chop his kid into bits. Look, he's walking around. He's smiling. He looks very special. Yeah. Listen man, the man, Thai aging doctors get him on the happy sauce.
22:16Who knows? Yeah, man. Look at that. He's wearing comfortable shoes. That's I would. He's fucking cool. Look at that. No, no, those sold men choose. Wow. Look at him. Looks fine. He looks great going for walks. How old is he? 83. Who's is who's that with him? No, that's that other actor guy. Isn't it? No. It looks like he looks like an eager see a little. Yes. That's what I was going to say. You sure? No, it's probably his friend. Yeah. Okay. Dude, things to do in Denver when you're dead. Underrated movie. I don't get it. Yeah. I know. It's not it. It was like their version. It was like when pulp fiction had just come out and everybody wanted everything to be fucking cool.
22:59Okay. And things became cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that. That's got to be cool for Tarantino to like watch his echo. Watch his shit echo out like to watch it. Shape culture. That's so bad. Ask that you do that. Amazing. He's very important. He's very important because he's grandfathered in like his movies are fucking bananas. Yeah. Like once upon a time in Hollywood was fucking crazy. And he's grandfathered in in a way like you know what a Tarantino movie is. Right. Have you seen kill Bill? Have you seen in glorious pastors? Have you seen the movies? Yeah. Then shut the fuck up because you know what you're in for.
23:35Right. Whereas I think if you were a young director and that was like your first film, people would go the, you know, the violence was so unnecessary. Yeah. It was so egregious. It was so, you know, like the language, the way they taught people would find criticism in it, I think. He yeah, you see in interviews, he is like so frustrated with the like endless question he gets from hack reporters who are like violence. What about the violence? Yeah. Like he just is done with that. It must be, I mean, it's so annoying to get that same question over to make great movies. What? Like when did journalism turn into scolding?
24:18Because it wasn't all, it wasn't the idea like you asked people questions. Yeah. But there is an immoral twist to it. Or am I imagining it? No, you're not imagining it. Well, Barbara Walters used to do it a little bit. You know, there was like she was kind of famous for being a tough interview. I know she interviewed people and asking like uncomfortable questions. Yeah. But it's like when it's got that it's not even like they're asking you questions about shit you lied about. Right. They're making a moral judgment on you. They're essentially saying why are you a bad person? Right. Why are you making movies that show horrible things?
24:50Yeah, you're contributing to this horrible culture we have, which is not true. That doesn't really work. Like that correlation doesn't work because when you look at some countries like. I think it's, is it Japan that is a very high rate of. They play a lot of violent video games, but they have way less violence. Oh yeah, right. Is that it? But I read that like they've tried to make correlations between violent video games and an actual violence. That is so dumb. And some people think that it might actually have the opposite effect. That it's there is a potential in some humans that they play those violent video games.
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25:27And they would get out any kind of wild crazy instinct that they might have. Like just I want you to imagine if image if epigenetics are real. Yes. If you're really there's a certain amount of us there in parting memories of being in war to other kids. Yeah. And this this is going into your baby and the mindset is going into your baby. Yeah. And it seems like that's an inescapable reality. If there's a thing like a video game that lets them express that part of their brain without actually having a desire to do it. Yeah. No judgments, but it almost makes sense that it would work to actually stop violence.
26:13So the idea is like what is promoting violence? And my answer to that is like being a human, poverty, putting someone through a terrible life, forcing someone into bad situations. That's what creates all of it. And until we address it's like very weird the way we address the problem of violence. Because we only look at it in terms of the action itself. We don't want to go all the way back to the source. We don't want to go back and try to fix the source. Well, there's a big problem that happens when you start doing that is instead of being able to transform violent people into one -dimensional sociopathic creatures.
27:00Suddenly you get back far enough and they're watching their mom and dad OD on heroin. Yeah. Or whatever it is. And again, not to say we don't need prisons and justice and all that. But when you realize, oh yeah, you're just looking at a misplaced defense mechanism that this human had to learn because of whatever they fucking came out of. Now I'm not saying it's all sociopaths had horrific experiences. I just looking at my own shitty defense mechanisms and then like going in therapy and connecting them to the past, it's easy to see where like the aspects of my personality that are not conducive to harmony came from.
27:43Yeah. It's just that you know, the kids are fucking so tough. They have to adapt. Yeah. The kids adapt and they develop these weird defense mechanisms. And then add to that the epigenetic component and then that what the United States has been at war 93 % of its history. Yeah. So now you're just looking at like some like insane number of people that are transmitting memories of being at war. Yeah. And they're children. And you know, that was my theory about why history was so barbaric. But if you go far back enough, the pyramids. So like what happened between then and then and like say the Mongols?
28:24What happened? What was the transition? Why did people get so barbaric? I think they're the people that survived the impact. Right. I think when the younger drives impact happened, if it happened 11 ,800 years ago, I believe. I think the people that survived that were fucking monsters because they had to be. Right. I bet there was, I bet it was a total breakdown of any civilization. That's why civilization doesn't really pop up again for 6 ,000 years. Yeah. I think for thousands of years, we were monsters. Dude, it's so funny that we that on our planet are all of these mega structures that we just are like, I don't really know.
29:11It just that always blows my mind that like all over the planet. Yeah. Signs. Do you see that when I posted on Instagram? No. Oh my god. It's just fucking insane. What is it? Oh shit. What? Where do I leave my phone? You've got, there's a phone right there. Where? Oh, what? It was hidden by my mic. Sorry. I'm gonna send it to Jamie right now because you got it? Yeah. So check this out. Give me some volume on this. Central Java's lush kedu planes in pursuit of this mythical peak near the little settlement of Bura. They chopped and burned the strangling vegetation for six weeks and removed tons of volcanic ash.
29:53What they discovered were marvelous figures cut in stone, thousands of them hidden beneath the volcanic jungle. But I believe to have been built in the eighth and ninth century, the Barobida temple is an uncontested marvel whose intricate architecture continues to confound scholars. Despite being one of the most important sites on Java, there is no written record of who erected it or what its intended purpose was. Because there are no inscriptions or dates on the monument, historians must make educated guesses as to when it was most likely created. The dating estimates are based purely off of architectural comparisons found elsewhere in Indonesia.
30:26Given the magnitude of the construction, it appears remarkable that no ruler or dynasty took credit for it. Barobidae is the world's biggest Buddhist temple and yet nobody knows who built it. Wow. On the Indonesian... That's cool. Yeah, Jamie, I'm sending you another one right now. I mean, there's a bunch of these things. There's a bunch of things like that. They did just like, uh -huh. So who made this? Okay. What are your thoughts on mud flood? What's mud? This episode is brought to you by Life Lock. Tax season is already stressful. You shouldn't have to worry about identity theft on top of everything else.
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33:42Mudflut theory. I think that goes along with the younger dryers. Yeah, but you much. Check this out though real quick. I want you to watch this because this is fucking bananas. Same account. Set out to empty ponds that residents said with bottomless, the Long U caves located in the village of Shien, Vatue and in Jijang Province, China are a massive and majestic ancient underground world. The Long U caves, also known as the Shownan High Stone Chambers, are thought to date back to at least 2000 years and represent one of the largest underground next generations of ancient times, as well as an ongoing mystery that has confounded scientists from every discipline that has researched them.
34:17Scientists from archaeology, architecture, engineering and geology around the world have no understanding who or why the Long U caves were carved into the earth. Currently 24 hand carved caves encompassing a staggering 30 ,000 square meters have been found so far. Each grotto is carved into solid silt stone and descends roughly 30 meters down with stone rooms, ridges, gutters and ponds. The Long U caves are supported by pillars that are evenly dispersed throughout the caves and the walls, ceiling and stone columns are uniformly decorated with chisel marks in a pattern of parallel lines and all -nate designs.
34:50Despite their magnitude and the work required to build them, no indication of their construction or even their existence has been discovered in archival sources. Despite the fact that the whole excavation involved about a million cubic meters of stone, there is no archaeological evidence explaining where that amount of stone went, nor is there evidence of the work being done. Damn! Furthermore, there isn't a single historical source that mentions them, which is extremely remarkable given the scope of the undertaking. Despite their caves of analysis, the Long U caves mystery remains essentially unsolved.
35:20What the fuck, dude? You know, when people like bash Hancock or try to dismiss it or debunk it, it's so frustrating to me because first of all, nobody builds something that big, underground, just for fun. I think we burrowed in. We had to, whatever happened or maybe something happened and then we were so scared it would happen again, we created that's like an ancient survival show. Well, they have them in Turkey as well. There's these giant under, is that where it was? Were Randall told us about it? Dude, those are crazy. Those are crazy with like air ducts and just insane and it's like you don't do that unless you have to.
36:16Right. You don't burrow like a human ant high ant nest. Yeah, these things. Like the amount of resources it took to do what these people did. These are huge chambers carved into stone. In the, they think that the sky was like fucking raining, lightning at one point. Yeah. Pole shift. I mean, to me, the really eerie thing about all of this is the information gap. It's that we have this massive, like the hard drive has been like fragmented from what we just don't know. But thank God they made everything out of stone. The thing about it is whatever their technology was that existed to make the pyramids, it was different.
37:07We make everything out of metal and glass and that shit's not going to be here in 10 ,000 years. It's just not going to be here. It'll all get destroyed by just Mother Nature. It'll just eventually get like I think they've done like a analysis of like how much of a city will be around after 500 years of just how much and after a thousand years. Detroit is a great example. Have you see what happens in Detroit? Yeah. Houses are just getting taken over by trees. Yeah. At trees go through the roof. They go through the floor. They're literally devouring the homes. They've the homes that are abandoned are getting eaten by trees.
37:42It's very cool. But it shows you. It didn't take, I mean nature has a long lifespan. It doesn't get a fuck if it takes a hundred years to reclaim a house. Right. To take a house up back. Just get the roots of the tree to start bustin through. Everything's rained on. The wood sawing it just breaks apart. It eats everything. It's everything. It assimilates everything. You know, there's like this humans have this interesting like temporal blindness like the way that we the way time passes for us produces the illusion of solidity. And so that makes that confuses people because they think that there's permanence here.
38:22When if we could just see if we lived longer and we could see time faster, we would feel like we were in some kind of like ocean of like undulating matter with these voids in it that we hang out in like little bubbles in the ocean. That's what we build our houses. We wouldn't look at this place as solid. We wouldn't think of it as like permanent. This is why everyone was so like fucked up by the pandemic is because you know, you watch enough TV you buy into the permanence of civilization. Suddenly civilization like has a little little rumble like a little rat like a house that needs some kind of serious repair.
39:01It shifts on its shifts a little bit. And everyone was like reminded, yeah, this doesn't last any more than any of that shit lasted. And I think that's very disturbing for people who've really anchored themselves in some notion of permanence here. Freaks people out. Well, I think that was a great ad for psilocybin. Yes. Yeah. Silocybin. That's what that was. That was an awesome ad for psilocybin. Ozympic now has psilocybin in it, which is better. That's better. You realize why you fat.
39:40It'll show you everything. It'll show you all the wires. You need it. It'll make the board. Dude, the whole thing like this, this is what one of the really funny things about humans. We are capable of ignoring internal realities. Like we can somehow distract ourselves from the obvious cause of our suffering and equate it with a million other things than just what it actually is. Like, dude, I got so fat during the pandemic, fatter than I've ever been. It wasn't a mystery to me. Like I knew why I was fat. But like it is curious that like there's a way that you can just kind of like ignore that.
40:23Or like when I was drinking too much, you can ignore that you're waking up with like a low -level flu every morning. You can somehow ignore it's so interesting. And it's common. Well, yeah. Most people do it, especially because it's so fun to party. So when they're out there party and getting lit, it's a good time. It is a grim, dude. It is outside of the way it makes you feel the next day. I mean, what a wonderful high. I think it, what sucks about alcohol as a drug is that it's a depressant. It's a depressant. And if you just do like one drink and practice mindfulness with that and watch you realize like this is like this sucks.
41:04Like it, it goes away real quick. It lasts, I don't know, 45 minutes an hour. Then you want to go back up. But your liver can't process it enough. And that's where the hangover comes from. It's like, well, it's also dehydration. Dehydration. Glutathione. You can mitigate some of that with glutathione. I saw that. I saw that on Twitter. Yeah. Yeah. Lipeosomal glutathione, I think, is the best. That's some stuff. You squirt under your tongue and you like hold there and it gets into your bloodstream better. But IV is the best. If you can get an IV, glutathione, that's the best. Dude, if you're drinking so much that you're getting IVs, like you guys think about that.
41:41Or if you want to continue having a good time, but you want to take care of your body, get an IV. You know what? Listen, I listen. I sound like a prude. I don't care if you're, if people don't, you don't sound like a prude. You sound like Duncan Trussell right now. This is where you are right now. This is where you are honestly in your life. And at other points in your life, you've been different. Right. That's normal. That's how all of us are. Incarnation. Yeah. And that's why when you see someone who makes a turn for the best, like, you see good things happen to them and they get the sparkle and they're are and they're excited.
42:11Yeah. You get excited too. It's fun. It's great. Right. Because it isn't great if you're always like that. It's really great if you figured it out. It's like if your life has been kind of fucked. And then you went, what am I doing? Right. And then piece it back together again. Then you're thankful every day. Right. Then you're appreciative every day. Yeah. It's like those negative things are actually can be positive. Absolutely. Dude, this is another, like this is the other thing. Like we look, we focus on half of what's really happening. Like people focus on the light and what's good. And when things are going right for them, completely ignoring the fact that like in general, when shit's going bad, like that's the stuff that's made you interesting.
42:59Like down the road, that's what the stories are told about. That's like what the jokes are written about. Not the good times. Like the bad times. That's the that's the fertilizer, man. Yeah. There's a saying, no mud, no lotus. You ever heard that before? No, like that though. And the two are completely connected. Like, especially if you zoom out of time. Yeah. And you'll realize you're growing out of your worst moment, hopefully for the better. Yeah. And the worst moment actually made you smarter. It made you like appreciate life more. It made you like less like dude, once I got my ball cut off, that was a fucking game changer, dude, because like you just you just learn how to be in the present moment.
43:42Like you can't get off. You like you're illusion of immortality is destroyed. Yeah. And you need that. Like it's really not good if you think you're going to live forever. I think that's one of the good things about you, Jitsu. Do you almost get close to death? Oh, yeah. All the time. Yeah. You know, and you're so exhausted that you it's easier to live in the moment. You're so less anxious. Right. I mean, I know I'm fucking beating a dead horse, but I think people need physical struggle. Not just even exercise. I think you need exercise, but you need you need to exercise. It's rigorous. Right.
44:22You know, and if you can only do walks, that's cool. Do that. It's definitely better than not doing that. Walks are great. Look at Al Pacino. Look great out there. I bet he's got a trainer. Look, I mean, it helps your anxiety. It helps. It helps what you think in a big way. And I'm thinking about it right now, because I hurt my back a couple days ago. Look, actually, it's about a week now. Deadlifting shouldn't have done it. That was fucking stupid. Stupid. Stupid. And it's not bad, but it's annoying. And it's waking me up. To this like reality of what happens when you don't work out for a few days, because I haven't really been able to work out.
45:02And I just started doing some stuff. I found I can do some stuff. I just got to be careful because I don't want to reactivate it. You know, because I don't want it to take longer than it. So two days in a row, I didn't work out, which is really rare for me. And then all of a sudden, I'm like, oh, feel good. I feel like, oh, yeah, I feel like shitty. I feel there. The sun's beautiful day. Yeah. It's beautiful. Beautiful clouds in the sky. I'm like, I'm like, oh, you little pussy. You have to work out. You can't work out. Oh my God. So now, this is how imagine that times like 20 years for some people of eating shitty too.
45:40You're not eating good. Right. And then not working out. Right. And that's most people. And so you're like normal reality. Yeah. Is this like you're in a kind of decayed building. You haven't been, it's like walking the dog. You know what I mean? Like if you don't take your dog for walks, what happens to the dog gets nervous, gets weird, right? It gets depressed. Your body is your dog. Right. You know, so it's going to do the same thing. It just gets all freaked out. My dog needs exercise. He loves it. He loves it. I pick up that fucking ball. I have a ball thrower. Well, it's like a like a, like a, a ladle looking thing with a ball in the end of it.
46:17You can really chuck it. He gets so pumped. It's a great dog, man. No, dude. I got the ball. He's like, no way. I go, it's right here. He's like, no, we're going to change the ball. My fuck. Yeah. So I get them all hyped up first. I get excited. I get excited. Yeah, I get excited. I go, here we go. Here we go. He loves it. Do my fucking poodle loves to get the ball. We'll not bring it back. You got to try and do that. Oh, I've tried retrievers. They do it instantly. Yeah. Marshall did it. Marshall did it like from the time he was a little bitty, bitty puppy. I'd throw something for him. He grabbed it and bring it right back.
46:52He didn't want to let it go. He wanted to bring it back. But if you say, come on, drop it. Drop it. Drop it. Hey, come on, dude. Come on, dude. He'll drop it. Drop it. But then he's looking at you like he's smiling. He's been, he's been, he's been going to play a little tug of war. So I'll play a little tug of war with that. He's so playful. Dude, that is definitely the coolest dog I've ever met. It's amazing. A mystical creature. You feel like you're being visited by some kind of like magic dog. Dude, so happy. He's so happy. And when I watch TV, he just hops up in cuddles. He just wants to cuddle with me when I watch TV.
47:24Yeah. Like that's what he does. He used to be a wolf. Yeah. So there's a photo on his Instagram, the most recent photo that we put up. Like this, this is a me watching TV. And a homeboy just like hops up to hang out with me. That's what he does. So sweet. He hops up and he cuddles with you. He wants to cuddle. He's just all love. Everybody. You come over the house like you never met him before. He's like, you're my favorite person. You see this? This is going to be the aliens posing with us in about 50 years. I hope I have to wear a collar. I'll be good boy. I want wearing the traffic. You're going to have to prove yourself first.
48:03I used to love to take him with no leash when I lived in California because I'd take him in the canyons and we'd run around. But unfortunately, that's a little more problematic where I live. But I think dogs, they need something man. They need exercise. They need love. They need, they're like a little, they're a little version of you in some strange way. Yep. You know, there were a reflection of the owner, some strange way. Do you buy into the idea that like dogs and their owners kind of start looking like each other? I don't think I look like Marshall. He's a little bit big me. But he's the sweetest.
48:36He does when you have your rough rough costume. Ah, I don't know. That's the original Marshall. That's a wolf. That's what's crazy. That used to be a wolf. Right. That someone took the most ferocious predatory beast of the forest that operates in packs and they communicate telepathically. Yeah. And they turn that thing into this adorable loves punch dude. Okay. When was the last time this connects? When was the last time you read one Fleur the kookies and that's oh, it's been a long time. Okay. I think I must have read it when I was in high school and just didn't pay attention. It's completely different from the movie.
49:16Like 100 % different. Maybe I never read it. King Keesey. He was like. Can he? Can he? He wrote it? Yeah. Oh no. So it's so psychedelic. The book is so psychedelic. But you know, like the the idea is that the character McMurphy, Jack Nicholson's character. Again, this is my own analysis. I don't know what the actual like literary analysis of it is. He represents an undemesticated human. And the people in the ward are humans that couldn't function in what says he calls society the combine. They couldn't function in the combine. So they're being brought into the asylums to get like redemesticated so they can function in the combine.
50:02And he represents like an undemesticated human who enters into like a conditioning center designed to melt people back down, build them back up and send them out into the world and be good functioning domesticated humans. It's so good. It's so subversive, dude. It's such a brilliant like it's so funny how different the movie is from it. Like it like nurse ratchet. And again, because the narrator is chief that native of the big Native American dude who is in the movie, that's the narrator of the book. It's being told from his perspective. So you don't know like how much of what he's reporting is real and how much is like he's in a mental asylum.
50:44Oh my god. That's amazing. But according to him, nurse ratchet can control time. She'll speed up time so that like a year goes by in a day or slow down time so that like like a second last like 10 years. And that's how that's just one of the many ways that there she's basically torturing the people in the ward. Oh my god. It's constantly giving them drugs tying them to their beds and always this threat. This like threat is hovering, which is if you fuck up too much, if you get too angry at nurse ratchet, who is a monster, essentially the way he describes it, it's the demure, just the anti -Christ, then you know what happens?
51:31They're going to fucking give you a lobotomy. They're going to cut out your brain, turn your nose on. And you know they really did that. Yeah. They really did that. They really did that. They really did that. I had a professor in college who used to work at an asylum and was the weirdest dude ever. It was an awful class on like psychiatry. And he was kind of talking glowingly about lobotomies. And like someone asked him like, I mean what happened to the person? And he goes they became a very good patient. Oh my god. Totally was fine with the fact that they were like sticking chopsticks and people's new like brain severing the brain.
52:13Dude it's with a hammer. Wearing that weird outfit. Why are they dressed like that? And now they did a lot of those. He did a disguised as doctor is credited with the majority of them. So are they holding this guy down while they're doing this or is he anesthetized? I don't know. I don't see any. I see a strap. I see straps and I see people holding his arms. Jesus Christ. You know how fucking terrifying that must be to feel that rod going into your brain and knowing they're going to turn you into a vegetable. Yeah. Electr a shock. Dude, do you remember that guy that was running for vice president?
52:52Who had to admit that he went through electro shock therapy? No. Yes. It was during the McGovern Nixon campaign. Eagleton. It was McGovern's campaign, right? McGovern was like one of the last hopes. He was one of the last like truly rational what you really want out of someone that you consider a liberal. Someone who's a compassionate, strong person who people thought that he could win. They thought that he could win. Yeah. And it says 72 over two weeks after the 1972 Democratic Convention. Eagleton admitted the truth of news reports that he had received electro shock therapy for clinical depression during the 1960s.
53:46But Governing initially said he would back Eagleton a hundred percent, a thousand percent rather. And he, but he didn't. He eventually had a lot of go and that it was too late. Wait, that's what took him out was they that's what took him out. Well, yeah. Oh, that's a shock therapy for depression. Just for depression. You know what I mean? You're awarded if you had depression today. Today in this victimhood society, all right. If you said this vice president, he suffered from clinical depression, but he sought help. He would be a shining example. Look at him. Yeah. He's like us. He was clinically depressed.
54:20He got over it. He's a hero. Yeah. And then people would be fine with it. Yeah. Back then. Back then it was a giant sign of weakness. And they would shock your brain with I think it works. Whoa. It doesn't have good reason. I would rather not. It's a small. Have you watched videos of it? Because it's like it's not like they're like vaulting you the whole time. They put these rods on your head and you like convulsed for a second. It's very disturbing. Maybe it's like a reset like control all delete for your brain. Maybe it's like, yeah, maybe it's, maybe it's doing like something similar to what the psychedelics are doing.
54:54Maybe it's bringing you to a near death experience because your body thinks it's being electrocuted. Yeah. Maybe it releases all those psychedelic chemicals that they think it releases when you're in near death experiences. Did you see that they think they found the mechanism for why psilocybin treats depression? Like they did some study on rap brains and a petri dish. And they were watching the way it interacts with psilocybin like blocks. Yeah. This is why. Is someone getting zapped? Yeah. Nice hat for shocking people. Yeah. Have to wear a hat. Yeah, but you don't need to have pop blood back.
55:26Oh, look. Her toes locked up. Look. She got knocked out. That's the receipt. Don't show a whole lot of it, but that's it. Yeah. The old, there's old ones that really show the whole thing. Dude, I wanted to bring something up, but I kept forgetting. I didn't want to interrupt your rant. I post this something. I retweeted something the other day about this boy that was raised by wolves in India. Yeah. Have you ever seen that? No. Good. See if you can find that from a few days ago. I retweeted it. I want to know if it's true. It's from like I was too lazy to google it. I was like, I'm just breaking up with a podcast.
56:07Yeah. Well, I just retweeted it. I take no responsibility for retweet. It's the best way to fact check. It's just tweet something. Also retweets for me are just like, hmm, I think this is interesting. Maybe you will too. All right. That's what I do it for. So this is it the wolf child in 1889. Wow. How do you say that word? Belondashar. Belondashar. Belondashar region of the Indian forest. They're resided. Dina sanachar, a feral child of nearly six years old. Sanachar lived amidst a wolf pack, adapting to their ways and partaking in their activities. This remarkable case serves as a vivid demonstration of the impact of environmental factors on human behavior.
56:48It exemplifies how the availability of resources, the upbringing, environment, and the ability to adapt to surroundings during childhood can shape an individual's physical and mental abilities. All right. Ultimately ensuring survival. I mean, this is kind of what we've been talking about. Yeah. Totally, man. Look at that kid. Look at his face. That's crazy. I mean, this is probably why you should be very careful about your friends are because like you, you know, maybe we look like our dogs, but definitely like in a group of friends, you like warp, you will shift into like something that like harmonizes with all of them.
57:27So, how about girls who like become boyfriends with serial killers and they go and kill people together? They pick up girls and kill them together. So crazy. People have done that. Crazy. Like that's a real thing that's happened more than once where a guy will be a serial killer and he'll convert his girlfriend to becoming a serial killer and they can kill people together. What does that conversation start off like? I'm starting to know a lot of men. The only thing that's not true about that story is that he wasn't the only kid. There was a wow. He was at least one of two at that time they found a wow.
57:59There might have been a couple more. Wow. That's crazy. Oh my god. Just by your rules. You know, look at him. It's like he got trained by a wolf. It's the reverse situation. Look at that. He took up the habit of smoking cigarettes. Wouldn't you if you're surrounded by wolves for your old child? I didn't even relax. This is at least five. What does five? At least five other. Did you learn how to talk and everything? No, it's said they never learn how to speak. Damn. This reminds me of that video we played a few times from the dark white underbelly of this family. Yeah. The boy in Sleeman story died within five, and I've died a few months after being brought back to human society.
58:45Whoa. Couldn't deal with it. He smoked out of the wolf's den. Where did he get cigarettes? No, did he? Is that what they're saying? It's that he smoked out of the wolf's den. That's kind of weird, right? So lived in the wolf's den, they kept him there. To see that work. Look, where was it? Scroll. Wait, the boy in Sleeman story, like the boy who's smoked out of the wolf's den died a few months after being brought back to him. No, it says like was smoked out of the wolf's den. Oh, what? I think she can't. Like, George Bush, we're going to smoke him out of her holes. Okay, I got you. You wasn't like everyone W said that.
59:20We're going to smoke him out of their holes. Oh my god. Dude, you just said weird shit with Lindsey Graham. Like the way he's like, we're going to kill Russians. Like it's the creepiest shit you ever saw. Did you see that? No, I didn't. Dude, it's so spooky. You'll have to, I don't know where I don't know where I saw it, but it's like he's like with Zelensky and he's like, I just started getting a stomachache. Dude, it's you saying that I started getting a stomachache. The way he talks about murdering people is really unnerving.
59:52You know where I saw I saw it on Tucker Carlson's first Twitter episode. Did you see that? No, Tucker Carlson's new show on Twitter. So what is the show? It's just him like doing a monologue basically. It's like a monologue. It's so it's like his old show. It's like his old show, but now he's been like unmuscled. So it's like free based Carlson. He's like going hard and you know, it's weird. It's like these days, I think a sign that you're looking at a real journalist is you worry about them? You're like, they're going to kill you. You got to shut up, man. They're going to get you mad. What are you doing?
1:00:31Are you safe? Because it gives you that. It gives you that feeling. And you know what's really interesting about it? Like I get like people on the left are furious with him. And just like people on the right hate Rachel Maddow or whatever. But he was mocked for talking about the UFO wreckage stuff. Like they people in the comments were like he's talking about UFOs. Like he saw a crop circle and talked about it. Not like let's hear it. Here it is.
1:01:07Here it is.
1:01:11I'm here to tell you that the last chapter of the battle of Bagmuth is yet to be written. I'm here to tell you that the Russian military is about to have holy hell unleashed upon them. That kind of guy you don't want running anything. You don't want that guy running a fucking Starbucks. Yeah, I don't want he's a that that was creepy. That just the just the way to talk that way about something with so much weight on it. Yet we went at the point that you're like talking like he's in a move. You're celebrating human that human debt. Like essentially the human sacrifice of conscripts. Like you're celebrating human sacrifice.
1:02:07And and and and it's human sacrifice that we've written off as being okay. Russia gave him a there's an arrest warrant out for him for those comments that he made from Russia. We said my crime was speaking truth to power. God damn I hate that phrase. That phrase gets fucking thrown around by a lot of morons. You know I mean I know it's a real phrase and people when they mean it I get it. But my crime was speaking truth to power. That fucking freaks me out. It freaks. Oh hocks are creepy dude. Like it's like somehow they've managed to get to a place where they can publicly celebrate human violent human like the fail just essentially like if you war as a failure of humanity right.
1:02:51Like that's so people like him are celebrating the death. You're not like it doesn't matter if you're doing the right thing. You those are still people. It's also the way he's talking. He loves it. It just I don't want anyone who gets to make those choices to talk like that. Says my crime was speaking truth to power said Graham. Russia has illegally invaded Ukraine. Putin has committed war crimes on an industrial level and I'm going to keep talking about it. Freedom allows you to say the things I said. We live in a country where you can criticize your leaders. Well that's kind of true but it's just what what you said with the magnitude of the weight of your words it's on the line in the whole world's listening and that's what you said.
1:03:38Yeah the best money we ever spent like that's a crazy thing to say. The whole thing is and the Russians are dying. We're going to it's not a fucking football game man. Exactly. Like this isn't a sport. Exactly. Like what you like just like you can you can clearly from like the micro their times where you're going to have to use violence in a society. There's times where someone's losing their mind swinging a samurai sword in the middle of the street and or whatever and like cops have to take them out. There's obviously this is obvious but like to then like celebrate that you had to like kill a lunatic or something is so dark.
1:04:22Like why not collect their scalps Lindsey Graham if you're so into this shit why don't we start scalping the fucking Russians we'll just cut pieces of start wearing a net a necklace of Russian fingers you know if you're so into murdering people and also ignoring the demographics of the people who are getting fucking slaughter. I mean you can see videos of them being dragged out of their houses and taken to the middle of Ukraine to just get thrown into a fucking blender dude and that's what he's tap dancing about. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy and that way of talking that he just did is like it's a standard politicians way of addressing a very complex issue.
1:05:14Right. They do it with like there was a there was a raw raw aspect to that. We're going to unleash holy hell on them Russians. Pepp rally. Pepp rally. Pepp rally for murdering people dude. Yeah because it is a football thing like saying it like that. That's like we're going to go fucking kick their ass team. Right and but for sure there is no financial motivation in what Lindsey Graham is doing. No one would do that. No. All that money is just a coincidence. Yeah. Yeah it's so fucking dark man like you it's really so confusing to me like because I guess I'm a naive idiot that people like that even exist.
1:05:53Well also the the exist on the left now that's what's weird. Yeah. No you mean like because the general like like Lindsey Graham is the Democrat or Republican. Republican. He's a Republican. Right. He's a Republican. He's a Republican. So they're all united on this idea of course he's a Republican but they're all united on this idea that they should continue. There's no one whether it's a Republican or a Democrat like the Democrats are always anti -war. Always. Oh yeah. Always. Oh yeah. This is the first time where the Democrats are like whole sale buying the narrative and we have to stop Putin.
1:06:35We have to support Ukraine. I mean how many Democrat peaceful people that used to have syringes in their Twitter bio now have a Ukraine flag? Right. Yeah. You if you articulate just the general common sense reality that war we don't want war. We don't want war. That we want we don't want anyone to die. I don't want Russians to die or Ukrainians to die. We want to elevate our species to the point where somehow we can get along with each other without like resorting to incinerating people. And because the message is coming from Trump the people completely dismiss it. But did you see that interview with him?
1:07:22We said we I would end the Ukraine war in a day. Right. And he said do you not want Ukraine to win? Do you want Russia to win? He goes no I want people to stop dying. Yeah. Yeah. Or I saw that. Dude it's perfect. You're allowed to say that. Let's find that because they're playing Gacha on a subject. They're doing Gacha interview real quick. You don't have much time with them. So you got to get a Gacha. And they're doing this with a subject that literally has the fate of the world in front of it. All right. Because if if nuclear war breaks out. Yeah. Because of all this. Yeah. And these people are just flippantly supporting this continued conflict with no talk at all about some sort of a compromise.
1:08:15Yeah. Some sort of a conversation. Anything or just starting a conversation just starting one. Let's hear what he says. If I were president and I say this I will end that war in one day. It'll take 24 hours. I know Zelensky well. I know Putin well. I would get that ended in a period of 20. You can break that deal. 100 % it would be easy. That deal would be easy. A lot of it has to do with the money. A lot of it has to do with the military. You know that we're giving. But I would get that deal done within 24 hours. That war has to be stopped. That war is a disaster. Final thought. Are you going to win next year?
1:08:54Cool. Sax. No, that's not very good chance. That's not the same interview. There was another interview. A woman was interviewing him. I believe and she asked. I think it was a woman. Asked if he wanted Russia to win. It was some weird gotcha interview. He said I want people to stop dying. Yeah, this is it. That's the CNN thing. Yes. Yeah. Let me just put it nice away. If I'm president, I will have that war settled in one day. 24 hours. How would you settle that war in one day? Because I'll meet with Putin. I'll meet with Suleynsky. They both have weaknesses and they both have strengths. And within 24 hours that war will be settled.
1:09:39It'll be over. It'll be absolutely over. Do you want Ukraine to win this war? I don't think in terms of winning and losing. I think in terms of getting it settled. So we stop killing all these people and break him down. It's tough. So I paraphrased it. I fucked it up. But that's essentially his answer. It's a I think maybe even after that. He might have actually said I want people to stop dying. It's crazy that that's a controversial statement. And it's crazy that people can't, like because he's saying it. Right. They invalidate it. Exactly. It's so weird. Like the truth, the ideas, there's the truth.
1:10:19And it doesn't matter if it's coming out of a radio that has woven into it, human skull fragments that man's known, the radio. It doesn't matter if the radio is spewing truth. That's truth. It's truth. And I always thought that was sort of the general consensus, like among people who were sane, was it's not good to blow each other up. And I get it. It's like, okay, well, then what about when invasions happen? What about when land grabs happen? When some news creepy imperialism happens or Hitler happens or whatever, what about that? But like, look at the fucking letter. Gandhi wrote a letter to Hitler.
1:11:03Did you ever see that? Yeah. You know, like, the idea is, you just try. It's like worth trying. Like get people to talk, hang out, sit down. You can't fail worse than war. So any attempt at like stopping a war without World War III or violence or whatever, it's glorious. Even if it fails. Even if it makes you look like a weak, pathetic piece of shit. Long term, you're going to look great if you were a peacemaker in the world. Versus a Lindsey Graham. Yeah. Lindsey Graham's, man, history does not look at them in a kind way. No, they're the evil characters when you watch a YouTube video on 9 -11.
1:11:50It's these people behind the scenes. It's these people that lie about weapons and mass destruction. It's like there's like a type of person that you see that gets into office. And there's just like, there's a shameless politician aspect of them that just gives me the creeps. Dude, just like, it gives me the creeps and anybody talks like that about war because it's so consequential. Everything's on the line. Humanities on the line. Civilizations on the line. The future of your children's on the line. Everything's on the line. Until like make it and boil it down to a ra ra football. Pepp rally speech is crazy.
1:12:33You know, an AI wizard out there who wants to do some kind of like something that will probably be very controversial needs to like put together a montage of the videos of all the drones blowing up Russians and replace the adults with kids. So that you see the children version of them being blown up. You know, because that's a weird thing about it. You there's this once you get to a certain height. At that point, we celebrate you getting exploded. But you know, like if kids were doing this shit, like we would end it immediately regardless of this is like, I don't if my kids are squabbling and like one of them bites the other or something or like whatever.
1:13:21Like it doesn't matter anymore about the fairness or whatever is happening. It's like, we gotta you can't do that. Stop the violence. Right. Yeah, man. It's that's the thing is like for to conduct a successful war, you really have to disconnect from the human reality of who is fighting the wars. If you say those per goes, this is named per goes and the guy who runs his own, like battalion, the private contractor was like fighting Bob Moot. That crazy guy. I'm not, I don't know where the basically there. Any there was a video that popped up of like someone getting their head smashed in with a hammer.
1:13:56Who is that? That. So it's like these people who is that that goes head smashed in. He was somebody who didn't want to fight anymore. That's what it was. Yeah, and to send the signal out like this is what happens if you try to run away, we'll just smash your head in. Oh, Jesus Christ. So it's like, so he was a fellow Russian? Yes. Yeah, man. I mean, that's the idea is like stop. Just know that the people who are out there thought it was a training mission apparently. And if they try to defect and get out of there, whatever, they're probably going to get killed. So it's not like you're not a Russian guy that killed or Ukraine got killed.
1:14:34It was a Russian. I thought it was a Russian dude. I was just saying that I'm reading about him. Do you think he said that he recruited prisoners? Does any chance he? I don't know. Said he recruited fit. This is the guy that got killed. The per goes and is the guy who controlled the troops, I think. Is he the guy that got killed with the hammer? I don't think so. No, no, the guy that got killed with the hammer was just a soldier. A soldier. What am I talking about? This is where I want it. It's just too strong. It's so narrow. You know what I saw you go deeper than I this time I didn't do it. And so many of these episodes, I forget the potency of this what you have here.
1:15:07It's so good. But yeah, man, like. So this guy ordered people out there. And then when people said, hey, this isn't a fucking training run. This is a real war. I don't want to fight in this war. That's what I read. I don't know if that's true. And so they killed that guy with the hammer. The guy seemed like resigned to his fate. Dude, it was crazy. The thing is when you, so like the big critique of Russia that Lindsey Graham has is you get arrested if you say anything, right? Yeah. Meaning if we have prisoners who've been quote recruited, fighting out there, then the Russia is sending anti -Putin people into a meat grinder to die.
1:15:52So you spoke out against Russia. You've been in a Russian prison. You get recruited. And then they just send you into all of these weapons given to Ukraine by the Western world. You're just dead. It's a death sentence. So when you break it down at that level suddenly, these are like, these fucking Russians are like, let me go invade the place where my mother -in -law lives. You know, it's like, it's not like that. It's like many of them are having, they have to do it. You, there's, you just, there's no way out. Unless you want to die. So you're after she's like, which way do I want to die? I want to get blown up by some fucking Ukrainian drone or do I want to get my head smashed in?
1:16:34Or just on YouTube? On YouTube. Yeah. It's really fucked up, man. An all fairness. I think YouTube would take that down. I think they changed it. I think they're changing. You know what they did? It's a dream that YouTube was like, l -lucing up so we could watch those videos again on YouTube. Really? I could be wrong. But I feel like there was some shift in their censorship model. It was happening. But I could be wrong about that. Well, it's not, when it comes to RFK Jr. They're, they're deleting his old podcasts. They deleted one from Theo Vaughn from a year ago. And they deleted one from Hot Box and with Mike Tyson.
1:17:12Which is more than a year or two. I did not know that. They just did it. What the fuck? They just started doing that. That isn't illegal if someone's running for president to, you can't do that, right? I don't know what you could say that it's because of misinformation. And this is, you know, because he talks about vaccines. And, you know, he talks about, he was environmental attorney before he, you know, was anything. And, you know, his whole thing was trying to hold companies accountable for what they're doing by ruining the environment. And lying about it. And for them to take that guy and say, you can't do that with other stuff.
1:17:55You can't talk about other stuff. Like, how come no one wants a hear amount? How come no one wants a hear amount with, with that book, The Real Anthony Fauci is fucking terrifying. And if it's not true, why isn't he getting sued? You know, if that book is true, if all the things that he's saying and he has references for everything, if it's all accurate, we should all read that book. Everyone should read that book. Right. Because if it's true, it's terrifying. You've been captured by an industry that's forced you to becoming a source of income for them. Dude, censorship is, has this component of condescension.
1:18:35And it is really like, that to me is the worst part. Essentially, you're saying, you're too dumb to parse this information in a rational way. So we're going to protect you from it because it's like a poison. It's going to infect your brain and we have to protect you. That is really like, first of all, if you do, that's bad parenting in general. You know what I mean? The idea would be that you teach your kid to confront false things, learn why they're not real. And then instead of trying to prevent your kid from seeing like everything, you know, I mean, I don't obviously, like I'm not letting my kid watch blade runners, some shit like that.
1:19:19But just that if you get too overprotective with your kids, like try to hide death from them, for example, that sort of thing. Like you got to trust, we can deal with it. That it's safe for us to encounter all forms of information. Well, the problem is, what time the real little you line to them. Santa Claus is going to come to bring you all toys. It's going to come down to chimney. And you see any magically appear. Yeah, just teach your kid what the word aggregate means and you can do Santa Claus ethically. What's aggregate? Agregor is like the name for like a thing that exists within the minds of a lot of people.
1:19:57It's an aggregate. So like, if enough people believe in something, does it have a material reality? Not necessarily, but within the psychic mind space. It's real. It's there. Right, Santa Claus is a thing. Yeah, an aggregate. Santa Claus is an aggregate. There's no obviously there's no real Santa Claus, but there is a very vivid living entity within the interconnected minds of everyone who believes in it. That's an aggregate. The problem is, if you tell your kid that Santa's an aggregate, and then your kid's going to tell all the kids at school, and then you're the asshole, that's the problem.
1:20:31I'll be honest, Joe, I have not told my kid Santa's an aggregate. I just thought of it. Like, maybe I'll do aggregate this Christmas. But yeah, you're just like a battle. Like, you get kids together. You know, and you talk to parents like, hey, have you done the Santa Claus talk? No. Like, how old are they? They're five and six. Like, if you get to that age, or you're like, okay, when are you going to tell these kids? When do you tell them? When do you tell them? They don't like it when you tell them either. They get very sad. So is that like, is that what these people think about us? But it's weird that they grow up with a lie.
1:21:04That's what I don't like. You grow up with a lie. It's a stupid lie. And you convince a child that this lie, that we all have mutually agreed upon. It's fucking kind of Santa Claus is kind of dangerous. Because it sets people up at a very early age for the reality that the possibility, rather, that everything you believe in is bullshit. It's misinformation, Joe. But everything you believe in is propaganda. It's propaganda by your parents to get you to be good. Yeah. You better be good. You better be nice. Better than hell. At least you're not doing that. Selfie. The Claus is coming to town. He knows when you are sleeping.
1:21:48He knows when you're awake. He knows if you've been bad or good so be good for goodness sake. He's breaking child predator laws by monitoring kids. Santa Claus is like the ultimate overlord in the sky. It's a panopticon, man. It's a fucking materialistic panopticon. You're being constantly monitored by some mythical North Pole thing that's probably like, I guarantee if we look at the way Santa is paying those fucking elves, I guarantee it's like, they don't want to be there. I also want to be in the North Pole. Right. The whole thing's fucked up. You had Elf on the fucking shelf. You know about Elf on the shelf?
1:22:31We had to do that. Elf on the shelf. Now you have like a little fucking plastic security camera that's watching your kids all the time. If they touch it, it loses its magic. So you put into the kids this like neurotic thing. It's like, think of how many kids have touched Elf on the shelf and not told their parents and live with that guilt. Like knowing they fucking depleted the elves magic. It's not coming back. This is sinister at one level. You know, it's really fucking weird. It's lies. And it's lies that are unnecessary. It's not lies about like something stupid. It's lies about the like whether or not there's elves flying around your fucking house.
1:23:13Like you're getting your kids to believe in nonsense. Like very early on. Instead of just like reading fun books where they know it's pretend. Right. Where you can just pretend. And also when you realize like the whole thing is just connected to getting the economy to get a little better once a year. You know what I mean? The whole thing is just to drive up the fucking economy by pithing and manipulating children and believing in a fucking Santa Claus. That is wild. Yeah. You were saying something about psilocybin. The psilocybin study. You about something about connecting to brain and memory.
1:23:50You're saying what they recently just got. Oh yeah. Yeah. They did some study. The article here was really funny because they're like, okay, we found the receptors that psilocybin is working on and the way it affects the receptors is a thousand times more potent than antidepressants. And now that they know where these receptors are, theoretically they could invent a medicine that doesn't get people high. And it's so sad. Oh no. Then that's when you're celebrating that. Like why? We already have the medicine. The medicine works. Why do we need to synthesize that? It grows out of the ground. But they're like, now that we understand it, we can synthesize it and take away one of the best things about it.
1:24:31Duncan, we figured it out and it's the best money ever spent. Oh god damn. Yeah. Same people. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Instead of saying, hey, we should legislate. We should change the laws. We really need to rally about this. This is an actual important medication for humanity. Yeah. It actually could make people nicer. It might have made people people. Just the problem is, it's apparently too easy to grow. Those fucking mushrooms, man. Yeah. You know what I mean? They want to be here. It's too easy. So it's like, you can't grow an antidepressant. Like you can't create Alexa Pro. That's exactly the problem is.
1:25:09And we're captive. We're captive by this industry that uses you to make money on a regular basis and we'll oppose anything that gets in the way of that profit. Even if that thing is overall net positive for humanity. Horrible. Silsibonus. Horrible, dude. I just revisited the thalamide thing. You ever look into that? The little mind. The little mind. Thank you. That shit. Like for like, you know, it's kind of like the United States does the, what's the name of the incident? They didn't Vietnam that triggered the war. Like the Gulf of Tomkin. So they do that. And then we get in the stupid war. Okay, then we get the yellow, the yellow cake.
1:25:53The yellow cake thing to justify the invasion of Iraq. Right? Comes out. That wasn't real. We just buy into that somehow now we got better. Like now it all makes us. So the thalamide, it's like it's a perfect example of a pharmaceutical company pushing shit that they knew was hurting kids. They wanted to sell it in the United States. They knew as fucking kids up. They somehow warped the studies in a way. They warped them so much. It was one woman. I can't remember who who was like they were trying to get the right to sell in the United States. And she's looking at the study. I'm like, this is too good.
1:26:36Like something is off here. This doesn't make sense for any met. Like generally anything has like more side effects than this shit that they gave whoever she was. I wish I could have my name. But the point is, man, like to imagine that stopped. To imagine like that was the only time that's happened. And that will never happen again with pharmaceutical companies. It's really crazy. Well, it's really crazy that all it took was the pandemic for people to think that way. But the problem is the way you think about it with the information that you have about thalamide and with the information you have about the opioid crisis and the the cyclers.
1:27:15Yeah. And they just, you know, they just got a unity for like, you know, they gave up a unity for like six billion dollars. Wow. They bribed. Yeah, they bribed. But they bought their immunity. I mean, they lied. The companies they owned lied. They got people addicted. They lost, lost lives so many lost lives. Yeah, dude. So many lost lives. Viox, the viox scandal. They killed 60 ,000, 50, 60 ,000 people in America. Same with thalamide, by the way. Apparently no one went to jail for that shit. Like nobody went to jail. No. The thing is that's how that business is. That business has always been like that.
1:27:50And we're one of two countries and the whole planet earth that allows them to advertise. Those commercials are so weird, yeah. They're siaops. Every commercial is a siaop. Every commercial makes you think that you're going to be out of that barbecue. You're like, I don't have any friends. But if I take this, I'll be laughing and I'll be on that raft with everybody else. Going down the river, having a good old time. That's what I need. Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's what I need. Yeah. I can't get that sort of like it. All I need is a little fucking electric pad on each year. I'm better now. Thank you.
1:28:24Or some psilocybin or exercise or all the above. Yeah. Some of the electric shock. Yeah. They shouldn't be allowed to advertise and they should not be allowed to have any lobbyists affecting our government. And the amount of money they're making right now, bro. They want to keep making that money. That's the thing about money. When a corporation has growth, when they have massive growth, like these pharmaceutical drug corporations had when they're manufacturing a medication that everybody had to take. When they make that money and then it's over, or they don't want to go back to like 2018 levels.
1:29:00Fuck that. You can't. You know, we got to figure out a way to sell more. Yeah. You just want to come up with something new thing. And I think when you get in those corporations, when you're working in them, it's a filter bubble. So like, you know, if you look at corporations as cults, you know, there's a cult like aspect to corporations. So you get into the cult and then over time, you get indoctrinated into like resonating with whatever their particular version of reality, whatever their reality tunnel is. And so when I think in that reality tunnel, they truly believe that everything they're doing makes sense.
1:29:36That it's good to do, that it's all justified. Because some of them, when confronted, they seem authentically shocked. Like they seem like, wait, we're trying to help. Like they don't seem to have connected to how weird it is to have that massive a profit margin when it comes to giving people medicine to heal them. You know what I mean? Like the idea being just generally, you should not be profiting off of diabetics at the level you are with insulin, you know? Like generally, selected top diabetes drugs as expected sales in 2020, 2024. Wow. I make a lot of money on diabetes drugs. Jesus Christ.
1:30:20That's not a big surprise. So with these diabetes drugs, they make a lot of money off this stuff. And if people all got healthy, that would all go away. Exactly. So then there's that weird, you know, if you want to sell umbrellas, you need a terrain. So then, you know, weirdly, the moment you start making mega profit of people's sickness, you have an in like under the surface of everything, you need people to be sick to continue to take those great fucking vacations. Like, and so, so that's where it gets really creepy, right? That's the creepy part. Because you need them to be ill. You want them to be ill.
1:30:59And then, you know, I don't know if you looked up, like, I don't know the exact amount. But apparently there's a huge percentage of money coming into networks from the pharmaceutical companies. Like, it's holding them up, which is why, you know, I guess you could just understand how much money they're getting. Just every time you see a pharmaceutical company commercial come on on anything you're watching, make note of that. And then you can see how much that programming is being paid for by these companies. Dude, that's really spooky, man, because then they become kind of the de facto government.
1:31:37Yeah, they become sort of like the communications mouth of the country. Yeah. I mean, because that's essentially what news anchors are. Do you see, well, it's a true that's think about Anderson Cooper that they're saying that he was given $12 million to promote vaccines. Somebody posted that on Twitter. $12 million? What? That they gave him $12 million to promote their answer in the pandemic. That's definitely re -shaping everything. His contract is for $12 million a year. So that's just his contract with CNN. So why are they saying it like that? Why? Because they want to put it in the same line.
1:32:15I think it was like a fairly reputable source, right? I mean, I'm just, I just typed in Anderson Cooper $12 million. There's articles from a couple of years ago about that's what is a reputable. Re -read liars. Right, but it says he won't leave this on in his and it inheritance because he comes from a very rich family. Right, but was it $12 million on top of that that they asked him? Oh, well, I mean. Did you find that? So it's two promote vaccines. I would someone know that. I don't know, but maybe they do. Maybe they don't, but let's find out. So it says Anderson Cooper was given $12 million to promote vaccines.
1:32:48Yeah, there's a website called, it's not a reputable website that says Pfizer pays millions to CNN for COVID jab promotion, which is like, that's, well, they pay for ads. Right. Yeah. So, I mean, that's okay. So that's a slippery way of phrasing things, just like that other stupid fucking headline. You can't raise the other stupid headline again that would drove us nuts. Oh, the bout of Al Pacino. Yeah, yeah, that. Yeah, you just, you can't skin. How gross is that? That, but that stupid headline was crazy because that made it look like, oh my god, there's money, grubbing horror. Yeah. And he's mad and he got a paternity test.
1:33:22He's like, not so. I love it that my loads work. Who are not the top? You know, I think that, you know, the issue is, regardless of whether like, someone's writing someone a check, or whether or not it's just in your paycheck from the company that's getting checks. Right. From another place, it's just like, it's adding this like extra. It's like the people who put their money in the Cayman Islands or whatever. It's like adding this extra layer to you getting money from those corporations. Yeah. It's also what they do at firing squads, right? We only put, uh, Yeah, there's only so many people have bullets.
1:34:02Right. So you, if you want to ignore the reality that some of the journalism you're doing is like being warped a little bit by the network potentially. I don't know if this happens. I'm guessing it does to Matt. Right. Does it? Dude, maybe doesn't. Man, I've, you know, they really think that I'm a little stone right now. I get it. But you know, it creates this ability for you to sort of like cope with that cognitive dissonance. So like, you don't have to like go home and think, am I really a journalist? I think this is what you might have seen. Breaking Robert Kennedy Jr. claims that 80 % of Anderson Cooper's $12 million salary comes from Pfizer.
1:34:42I read an article that was saying that he was then an, I just couldn't, came from the interview yet, but in an interview, he said that he, that 10 million of that 12 is coming directly from Pfizer and he's promoting it separately. But I don't know where he, okay. Information from. Or can you find what percentage of advertising dollars for, for, for scene incomes from pharmaceutical companies? Well, I see an unspecifically, but in that same article I was seeing with this, he makes a claim, which we've read before, is that 75 % of advertising revenues in the mainstream media comes from that, but I just found an article from 20, or last month, from February.
1:35:14It says at least for TV that's down, but it's because they're changing the spending to digital buys. So you see they fired the CNN guy, the top guy again? Who? The guy's only been there for a year. Oh yeah, my wife was telling me something. Because it keeps imploding. CNN's imploding. All right. Yeah, they just can't seem to like get the air back in the tire. Yeah, they've got to stink on them. Yeah, yeah, they do. Yeah, they kept on living in there too long. Fuck, they kept them in the box too long. Dude, didn't like them. They felt like he was, you know, naked and afraid, Don Lemon, Tucker Carlson.
1:35:51That's how he comes back. Yeah, I got my money on Tucker. Yeah, well, he fish, he's like, I don't know if Don Lemon is a fisherman, I think Carlson's like gonna, like, I bet Carlson will bring a fishing pole. Like, you know that you can bring two things or something like that. He'll probably bring his fishing pole. What does Lemon bring? I don't know. Alone would be better. Alone is the best. That's the best. They throw you to the wolves. You buy yourself a like a bow and arrow and a hatchet. So good. You get like three things. You get a bucket. It's hooked on that show. So fun to sit on your couch, like eating and watching these people out there starving and the cool.
1:36:31I had a guy who was on who won it. Jordan Jonas. And he was, it was a ringer if there was ever a ringer. Yeah. Because he's lived in Siberia with like the, the indigenous tribes and that's the unfair part of the show. Yeah. They're putting people like that against like people they found at a bar or like, I don't want to be on TV. Or it's just some girls hot. It wants a lot of like, you know, money for Instagram. They're out in the wilderness for two days. And they're like, I have to see my kids. They're out. But if you're going to do a show like that, like you're not going to get that much attention for quitting.
1:37:08And there's a lot of money if you win, right? Yeah. Like what do they win? Like half a million dollars? I don't remember, but it's a lot. Is it half a million? Yeah. So you're going to get ringers for the most part. You're going to want a real competition. You know, like the more episodes you get, the longer these people stay in it, the more episodes you get, right? Yeah, man. Yeah. You want them. And they're by themselves filming themselves. And the more drama, man, the more views you're going to get. So like, you know, So they only stop to visit them to give them batteries and share, right? I just don't understand the filming process because like, I was looking at some of the shots.
1:37:42And it's like, how are they getting these shots? Like, are you when you're on? Because they set up cameras. They're supposed to they have a tripod and they're supposed to set up their camera. And then like film things. They're hunting. They're doing certain things. It's just all the survival shit to imagine before commencing with your survival activity. You're like setting up a GoPro on a tripod. Yeah, but I don't know what that hundreds of that. Oh, they do. Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, they actually have some. They have one that actually is an iPhone. Like, it's a magnetic thing for your iPhone that sits in your front stabilizer.
1:38:15I'm sorry, I forget the name of it, but it's pretty cool. So like when you draw your bow back, you can actually press record on your iPhone and film the flight of the arrow with your iPhone. You can film the animal coming in. You can film the flight of your arrow. And it's actually good for like for ethical reasons, because you can see whether or not you made a perfect shot. And so if you made a perfect shot, just let the animal die. And don't freak it out, chase it. You see where it goes. You could follow the trail because you're visually looking at the film like we shot off to the right. There he goes.
1:38:51And they do that all the time. So if you wanted to set up like people do that all the time and deer hunting, they set up cameras. They have like camera arms. They have untree stands and shit. Have you ever seen those? No. This whole show is dedicated to white tail hunting out of a tree stand. Like it's like it is a religion in the Midwest. White tail hunting? White tail hunting is a religion. It's the number one hunted animal, big game animal in North America. White tail deer. Dude, people become obsessed with it. They become obsessed at the point where they create habitat for the deer to live.
1:39:26Like they buy enormous farms and set up food plots. They're feeding the deer essentially with food. They have alfalfa like growing everywhere. They just are constantly in their area eating. And then they hide and trees and wait until the wind is ripe. So you don't want to like a northeast wind that's like blow in the wrong way so your scent is going all over the field. You don't want that. So you want to get the right tree stand with the right wind and you sneak in on these animals that have been growing. Eating your fucking alfalfa for years and years and years and years and jacked and looking good.
1:39:58And all of a sudden one day he's out there eating and f***. He feels an arrow goes through his ribcage. Jesus Christ. But here's the other ethical dilemma. What? They don't have any predators. I mean there's occasional mountain lions, there's no coyotes. How are you keeping these populations down? Because the number of car accidents that people have with deer and like Iowel alone it must be off the charts. We've done this before right? We're looked at the number of car accidents per year. Isn't it like it's something bonkers? Yeah. The number of car accidents per year in the United States. It's a crazy number.
1:40:32You ever had a deer run in front of your car? Dude it's so scary. It's like they're so fast. Oh yeah and they f*** up. They make bad choices. Yeah. You just decide like especially when it's when you're around here and it's like November, December, January. Be careful because that's when they're horny and that's what they're trying to f*** and they will run right out in the traffic. And they chase doves. They're chasing doves because they're trying to f*** them and the doves don't want to f*** them so the doves will run right in the traffic. Dude how? How weird is it that like horningness has the exact same component through all species right?
1:41:06Like a horny human will also run in front of a car. Oh! Well also do stupid shit. It's so weird like it really makes you dumb when you're horny. Like 100%. According to state farm and between July 21 and June 22 they're down 5 .5 % from the previous 1 .9 million emo collisions and 67 % of those are deer. 202 deaths. So it's like over a million or deer almost. They're only like probably 1 .1 or 2 million. Holy s*** dude. 202 people killed by deer. That is nuts. My friend camhains in his hometown or in nearest hometown rather. Some guy hit a deer with his car and it flew through the air and came through the window and killed the guy behind him.
1:41:59Jesus Christ. She impaled him in the seat. Are you liable for that? How could you be? If you ping pong to deer. Like is that? I mean I'm sure you're in the conversation because you hit the deer first. But you know if you're on the highway and you hit a deer who's fucking fault is it? You can't stop quick enough when you're going 60 miles an hour. Holy s***. Which state do you think is number one? For getting animals hit. Well you have to think of cars driving a lot through interstates. Kansas? Ohio. Neither are on the top 10. Really? What's the top? I was number 10. Wow. What's number one? West Virginia.
1:42:42That makes sense. They must be infested in those hills up there. In Montana. That's true. Montana's number two. Yeah. Wow. You could do like a cemetery of just people killed by deer. That is so I had no idea man. Like that's so creepy. Yeah, that's fucked. To think your whole life you're thinking you're going to do a heart attack or old age and a fucking deer is going to like slam into you one night. You get up in the morning you know what? That's it. No more sugar. I'm cutting and sugar out of my diet. I'm going to start taking yoga again. I'm going to find a yoga class. Yeah. And then fucking deer through the face.
1:43:22Look at that dude. That's so fucked up. Yeah. All sorts of crazy. It happens all the time. And a lot of times when they come through their guts come through too. So it's not just a deer that comes through. It's like you hit it and then it goes through your windshield and when it goes to your windshield you're just covered in gore. Covered in gore. And you know what? Okay. So like if we found some statistic for how many night time hand jobs happen in Ohio when people are driving. Where they get hit by a deer. I'm telling you a few people are probably. I say hand jobs. What about head? You know what?
1:44:01That you got me. You kind of like that's more exciting. I've got more carry and jobs than car blow jobs. Yeah. I've only gotten a couple of car blow jobs lifetime. It's a dangerous operation. I don't like it. It's not for everybody. And it's definitely when you're done you're like what the fuck is wrong with me? Because like if you wreck they could accidentally clinch their teeth. Well, they also you could wreck. Like you're not paying attention. You could hit someone. You fucking selfish prick. Like you gotta bite my dick.
1:44:36Oh my god. Well look man it's just like that. It's just pay attention. You're not supposed to look at your phone while you're driving. Should we get in your dick sucked? You should not be getting your dick sucked. I just don't look at your phone and don't get your dick sucked. Don't suck anybody's dick either. We're getting old. I know we're talking people don't drink. Don't drink. Don't get the don't get the don't get your head. What are we driving? What have we turned into? What are we turning into? Santa Claus is a fciop. Yeah Santa Claus is fake. UFO is probably real. How about that? How about that man?
1:45:08Oh my god. When that guy was talking when he was explaining that we've retrieved vehicles of non -human origin. And pilots. And pilots. Dude. Yeah. Pilots. It is astounding. Military whistleblower claims US has UFO retrieval program. Air Force veteran David Grush claims the government is covering up UFOs. claims he has seen evidence of a secret crash retrieval program. He alleges the US has even retrieved bodies from other species. That lid looks alien. A little bit like a hot older alien. She's. You're making big mistakes Duncan. Yeah. You're making mistakes. He comes out. Alfred sent a Kili with me.
1:45:52That'd be wow. The failions look like her. I. But yeah like a hot like Sigourney Weaver in her prime alien. It comes to visit you. Please. That would be the best. Like Sigourney Weaver from alien. Amazing. Oh my god. You know people don't talk about that. When they talk about like female heroes of major blockbuster films. Like. That's the big one. Yeah. Sigourney Weaver in alien. That's the big one. Because you believe every second of it. It is completely inconsequential that she's a woman in that movie. That's aliens. It starts getting sketchy. I like aliens. Aliens is cool. Here's the probably aliens.
1:46:36Why are they so hard to kill an alien? But so easy to kill an aliens. They got better weapons. And then the big mama can't deal with the fucking slow moving mechanical robot. You're right. You're right. Yeah, you're totally right. Because like the first thing was like indestructible. Yes. There was no hope. Clever. It was like just the opposite of humanity. It hid in the escape capsule. Yeah. Brilliant. Memor should have to kill it and shoot it out in the space. Yes. Yeah. Bro. If you were okay. Here is a like nerdy breakdown of alien that I heard. Which is really interesting. Which is horror movies.
1:47:18I think this is like Robert McKee. This you animal you like teaches about writing scripts. Horror movies follow. This very predictable pattern. And there are all these things that are across the board in horror movies. And one of them is you can't call your mom. So and what was the name of the ship in alien? Mother. Yeah. And so like you like there's all these like recurring like archetypical things that pop up in horror movies that freak people out. Big one is you can't call mommy anymore. You're like. Yeah. Yeah. So you kind of get that in there. It's so creepy.
1:47:59It's so creepy that we're at this time where all this UFO information is coming out. But yet people are still like very reluctant to buy into it or even give it attention. It's interesting. It's interesting. People are like, I can't be bothered. Dude. Can't be bothered. Listen, because I'm obsessed with it, I've like the it's the reaction when you start telling someone you know there's now seemingly credible evidence that we have alien spaceships. And to watch them be like, uh, okay, it's so weird. Dude, and it's so weird that like now it's getting picked up by the mainstream media. But there was this insane pause.
1:48:45And no one was taught like it went nowhere. And this should, isn't this if this is true, the most astounding thing in human history? Like it's the most astounding thing. It's the most astounding thing. Because it's the thing that everybody has always wondered, are we alone? Not only we not alone, but some people know we're not alone and they're not sharing it with everybody else because they want to profit. Yeah. Because they want to back engineer these things because they want it for national security reasons because they want to protect us from the possibility that China gets this technology or Russia gets this technology.
1:49:28And then everybody has spaceships. But you're not, you're not the decider. You don't get to decide. Right. Whether or not human beings go from cradle to the grave without information that you have that would literally change the way we think about the universe itself. Like for you to hold on to that because you want to win, get the fuck out of here. And if that's really, if like if some sort of defense contractors are actually involved in this, I mean, they can't look. I don't know anything about what I'm talking about. Right. But when you say the government, oh, the government's back engineering UFOs, when you say the government's building secret hypersonic ships that defy visual, you can't take photos of them.
1:50:22You can't take videos of them. They fly through the sky in same rates of speed. Who's making that? He's not them. What do you mean the government? What do you mean? They don't have the capability to construct those things. You have to go to defense contractors. Right. You have to go to the people that make those things. Yeah, of course. Like buddy, why you got to do it by yourself? Listen, I know you don't trust us because we're not the government. But listen, we work together here. We're going to shut the fuck up too. Everybody will shut the fuck up. We'll make this thing. Come on, you're going to fuck it up and then China's going to win.
1:50:51Like, yeah, you got a good point. You got a good point, guys. Let's all get together. So if you have a spaceship from another planet, I do not think that if you're actively trying to back engineer that thing, that you're not going to involve defense contractors. Right. You're not going to involve people that make jets. You're not going to bring them in. No, you have to. Of course. 100%. So then it becomes a thing with them. Imagine them holding onto that. Right. That's there. This is their responsibility. Like we have the information that would literally change mankind. Yeah. I have to lie to my mom.
1:51:29You know, you're sitting there having a whiskey with the guys after work. You know, I got a lot of my mom. Yeah. My mom wants to leave the aliens are real and I'm like, come on mom, it's all bullshit. Meanwhile, I'm looking at alien spacecrafts seven days a week. Like what are we doing guys? And all the implications of that, like it's it's it's it's the spaceships of the tip of the fucking iceberg. Like we don't know motivation. We like, you know, assuming all of this stuff is real. Now the question is, well, what are they? What are they fucking want? Well, there's all this talk of multiple species too.
1:52:03So when we say they, it's like which ones are we talking about? Because if you want to go into the mother fucking rabbit hole, right, if you're going to go deep in the rabbit hole, there's multiple things. There's like the graze that everybody talks about. And there's another thing called the tall whites. The people have described them. They, they almost look like Scandinavian or something like that. Like pale skin. Are these the nords? Yes. Okay. Yeah. That's and they think that there's different like some alien life is probably, you know, 100 ,000 years ahead of us. 700 ,000 years ahead of us.
1:52:44A million years ahead of us. But some alien life is probably millions and millions of years ahead of us. They probably don't want to fuck with us anymore. Right. But I bet the intermediate classes, the well, I bet they're like the watchdogs for the universe to make sure that intelligence reaches that crescendo, that it reaches that that moment where you can join the intergalactic hive of minds. The moment where all the barbaric instincts of our primate DNA are expunged. All right. We don't have any of that anymore. And the civilization reaches some insane harmony with the very universe itself.
1:53:23Right. That's probably where it goes if you don't blow yourself up. But I think anytime there's a hiccup, we go way back to as barbaric as possible and it takes forever for things to relax. And you're seeing a microcosm of that with COVID. It's what's accelerated all these different social movements. It's what's accelerated all these different people that are what they would call activists. It's accelerated all this. It's just an insane like pause in civilization. And then there's this sort of like rapid desire to claim ground and to reformulate, and re -change, and re -imagine, and restructure.
1:54:10And the government's going to try to get involved in social groups. They're going to try to get involved. There's a money grab. And then there's donations. And you find out that some of the people that are involved in the organization are buying mansions. And like don't worry about this mansion. And I'm out here doing good work. Yeah. And then the people see like there's so much of that. But I think that's a microcosm of what probably happened when the fucking asteroid slammed into us. I think when civilization got wiped out, I really believe that it was the worst of the worst. And that's why we have such horrible instincts.
1:54:44I think we're just not far enough removed from that to get it like rung out of your DNA. Yeah. And if you look at like pinkers' work, if you look at any of these people that are studying crime and violence over time, like if you just, I know about anecdotal experiences, I know about your own personal life, you've got to set that aside for a moment and just look at overall. Yeah. It's getting lower and lower all the time. Yeah. It's always going lower. It's always going, it's have for like weird blips and war. It's always going lower. Less crime. Like we're trying to figure it out. But if something goes fucking psycho, right, like you shut boom.
1:55:22If Putin says, fuck you, if Putin really does have cancer and just fucking America. I said fuck yeah. And then we go back to the worst of the worst. And it takes a long, long, long, long time to get to where we are now. It takes 10 ,000 years. Yeah. It takes 10 ,000 years to get to the place that we've claimed right now. And we can stop this in its tracks. It is possible. Like the forces that are moving this country in the wrong direction, this terrifying direction. It's, they have power because we've voted them in. But that's, that's a real thing. And if you don't vote them in anymore, and then the person you vote in has courage, things can change.
1:56:10And if people demand it, things can change. But they have to fucking demand it. Right. So then they have to pay attention and that's a problem. Right. Yeah. Because you get headlines like that. You get headlines like that fucking albacchino thing. Right. Just the lion. They're just trying to get clicks. That's why CNN is dangerous. That's why CNN is dangerous. Because CNN with their biased reporting, the way they communicate things, people don't trust the news anymore. Right. That's what freaks people out. Well, okay. They don't know who to trust anymore. So there's this chaos state, where people are very uncertain about sources of information.
1:56:48And you know what? I must say that is a good thing. Like I think that the weird voodoo that has fallen upon so many people, believing that what's in your phone, what you're looking at is a reflection of truth. It's really bad. Like you want to talk about it sometimes it is. Well, yeah, I mean, but you, you're that's the problem. The job is you have to discern one from the other. The idea with educating people wasn't like teach them how to do fucking algebra. It was like teach them how to be rational, separate truth from non -truth. Because the moment people are incapable of doing that, then they become susceptible to con artistry at the highest level.
1:57:30And the moment that happens, you get all the awful events that have happened throughout history. So, so the problem is, man, this replication of reality. We're getting second hand, no matter what it is, if you're watching TV or you're looking at your phone or whatever, you're getting second hand digitized reality. You've taken fundamental truth, which is nature. And you've converted into some kind of warped digital representation of it. And so the more you are sort of harmonizing with that, the less you're harmonizing with just basic fundamental truth. You go outside, you look at the trees, you hear the birds.
1:58:09You know what season it is. That's real. Like that's not misinformation. That's just fundamentally true. But what we've become separated from that by many, many layers of bullshit. And you're right. And so now what do we have? We have like a, people who are terrified. If you were the term fear -American, fear -American. Yeah, like Americans go to other countries and they're all fucking freaked out. Be it like, and just completely anxiety -written. Because of the connection to world events or a reality tunnel that's being presented to them by wizards who are getting gold cold from the alchemists.
1:58:52That's basically what's happening. Is the alchemy guild is paying the media wizards. And the media wizards are like casting a spell on everyone to believe this very specific reality tunnel. That is not real. And if it is temporary, it's the very best, it's temporarily real. But it's warped, it's dislikely distorted. That's the problem. It's like something in there is true. But it's been distorted in this bizarre way by the media wizards. And now everyone has like lost track of the basic human ability that has to be cultivated to detect bullshit. Like you need to grow that in yourself. You need to be able to look at anything and think, I don't think this is true.
1:59:33Where did this come from? Who's like every time something pops up, you're very good about it on your podcast, by the way. You like point it out, like wait, what did you say? And then you look it up. And then if it's not true, you admit you were hoodwinked. Yeah. But that's not happening with most people. They're just reading the fucking thing and they're not researching it. And my god, that is how you get pick pocketed man. That's like, that's the worst. Prediciment to practice that. That's such a great way of pointing it out. That's exactly what it's like. You're being mentally pick pocketed.
2:00:08Yeah, man. And you're being warped and manipulated. One of the, in social psychology, one of the weird problems of having a human brain is we remember information. We don't remember the source. So if I could just give you some bullshit information, you will forget I told it to you in a hot tub when my eyes were dilated. And I was just like rambling about something. You might accidentally remember that truth is truth because you forgot the source. And so your brain spits it out. It's like, yeah, this is reality. You don't know that that got implanted into you by someone who wanted you to buy shit.
2:00:52You care about everything. What a great rant. Sorry, man. I feel like I have those amazing tip -buggers. Do you have, not coming out of my nose can you see? No, let's see anything. Okay, get that. I need a tissue. I'll get you a tissue. No, it's gone. I just was getting erotic about it. You don't want to like be rambling about fucking aliens and pharmaceutical companies. The nasty fucking thing. It just makes you more human, Duncan. I hope I hear. It all, I feel like it's all like a real example of why we need regulation in that regard. Like you need a government oversight that is completely objective.
2:01:27That's not influenced by money. That decides what people can and can't say. Like what are the odds? Like it's just crazy. Like if CNN is the news, what are the odds that CNN would publish an honest investigative discovery into vaccine injuries? It would be amazing if they did. I mean, if they - Could you imagine them being able to do that? I could see in a strategy meeting, is they're trying to like get the network back up to snuff. Somebody being like, what if we do this? And then there's money involved and then I could see suddenly like maybe it's some point - The money involved is from the ads.
2:02:07Right. It would have to go with the money - It's a pump based or something. You have to go just back to CNN plus. We're reviving CNN plus. Dude, I - I loved CNN plus. Did you? No. You don't have to ever fucking buy. I know, but - You guys just know and has ever said that. You like Brian Stelter as the best book club. Hahaha. CNN plus definitely like, you know, like at least like the whatever Fox's subsidiary was. I think that's still available and works. They showed Brozan Barr's stand -up comedy special on Fox Nation. Yeah, on Fox Nation. Is that what it is? Is it called Fox Nation? Yeah, Fox Nation.
2:02:44And I'll admit, man, I came close to - It's subscribing? Only because like I like to watch lifetime movies. But - Do you ever watch lifetime movies? They don't have the most Fox Nation, please tell me that's true. No, they don't have lifetime movies. But Fox Nation seemed like a lifetime movie because of like they're like really veering towards like, like, you know, conservative hyper moralistic sort of like - Christian values. Christian values. Yeah. And - That's the antidote. But turning the volume up too high on that creates an inadvertent comedy. And so like I was like, fuck man, I want to watch that.
2:03:18Yeah. I mean, like that's going to be really funny. That's cool. I mean, I just want - That's a great thing to watch on mushrooms. The - Watch that on mushrooms. Oh my god. It looks so insane. It's - It's a - I mean, I - I just watch OAN. What's that? America's news network. Is that what it is? I never watched that. What was that one that they had? Was it OAN? I don't know. I said it totally wrong. It's one American news. One American news. What is that? It's that - It's that. It's like turned up to 11th's Trumpism. Turned up to 12. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Is it - Like, is that what you described it?
2:03:52It's very much a right -wing channel. Dude, I think you need to take dips in all the propaganda, you know? It's a far -right pro -Trump cable news channel founded by Robert Herring Sr. Here's - Here's the real problem with any of those things. It's hard to find a good anchor. Very hard. Finding someone that can tell you what's going on or you don't want to stab them. Yeah, dude. It's hard. Really hard. A lot of those people are fucking super annoying. Like, the way that communicate is annoying. Well, dude, for - You know, they have to read a fucking teleprompter, right? So it's like they're basically like automaton's who ask - And they're scared to lose their job.
2:04:31They just fired Don Lemon. They fucking - The smartest, the most talented guy in all broadcasting. And he can't make it. Dude. We're all in the chopping block. Dude, let me tell you, man, the fucking day - the day they cut -can lemon, a quiver went through everyone at CNN, like, Jesus fucking Christ, we're all in danger here. Oh, in danger. They got rid of Lemon. They plucked the lemon from the tree and they left this void. Now what? How do you replace Lemon? Well, they don't have any stars anymore, right? Dude, they have Blitzer? What was exciting about - Is it the Azista on that? Wolf Blitzer.
2:05:06Blitzer. What a great name. Best name ever. Wolf Blitzer. Wolf Blitzer. That guy should be in the fucking 1940s World War II movie. I know, dude. Wolf Blitzer. Blitzer. They're here to pack, leading America to victory. Come on, boys. Pain don't hurt. Yes, Kalena Blitzer. Like a Patrick Swazie -type character. Lindsey Graham wants us to kill Russians. Best money we ever spent. Best money we ever spent. She - Okay, he's still there. He's been there since the last time. Ah, that's my - Wolf Blitzer. Wolf Blitzer. What's up, baby? Well, look at the hair on that bastard. Lucky, just fucking devil. Yeah.
2:05:40Beautiful salt and pepper hair slick back. You know, receding a little bit dignified. Dude, that's incredible hair. Blitzer has a great hair. Got a great beard. Look at his beard. That's - That's the - You're looking fella. Someone does that for him. Great name. Wolf Blitzer. Oh, yeah. He's well -quaffed. He's a star. He's been there since 1990. He's the - I got to know the world. He keeps CNN together. I don't mind Blitzer. I can't remember, like, I feel like - I don't remember the last time I watched Blitzer, but like, there was - there was something about him I liked when I was like watching that shit.
2:06:09Well, he seemed a little, you know, he was questioning things. Yeah. When we talked to people, he seemed like he was actually doing a little bit of journalism there. Yeah. Really trying to get to know - So many times, and you see people like - If you see the - Did you ever see the Biden - Don Lemon conversation? No. It's bananas. Can we - Because it's - It's Don Lemon. Try - And first of all, Don Lemon is a - Fairly Cadi fellow, right? Like, it seems - Fairy. It seems like - If he didn't like that guy, if that was Donald Trump, and he was talking that way, he would have jumped all over him. But he's letting Joe Biden like - ramble and just go off and forget what he's talking about, and did you - Did you get the vaccine?
2:06:55Hey, it works. Hey, and then - Then I was telling people, like, it's a wild like - I can't wait to stream of consciousness. Like, Biden losing his place, you know, sometimes he loses his place. Yeah. He does it with Don Lemon, and Don Lemon is there just like - That was just given some psychoactive drugs, and they're bouncing off the walls. He's after what? Dude, you - That's - I gave him a fucking stomach ulcer. After like - Watch this. Yeah. To - To not be able to call it out. But also, it's like - If this was anybody else, so if you're a journalist, are you a journalist? Like, are you a human being that is the mouthpiece of America?
2:07:38Right? Are you a human being that is there observing some pretty strange behavior? You'd want to like - Expand on that. Like, what are you saying? Like, why are you saying it that way? Like, what is - What is happening to you? Yeah. Are you okay? Can you think clearly? If this was the opposition, see, this is the thing about having anchors that are so - Like, you're gonna have anchors that have opinions, always. Everybody has opinions. But to have an anchor that's so clearly, so rigidly one -sided, so watch this. Play this. Are - Are you canning? You should've - No, it works. Or you, you know, or the mom and dad, or the neighbor, or when you go to church, or when you're - No, I really mean it.
2:08:20There are trusted and interlocutors. Think of the people. If your kid wanted to find out, whether or not there were - there's a man on the moon, or whatever, you know, something, or, you know, whether those aliens are here or not, you know, who were the people they talked to beyond the kids who loved talking about it? Talk to me, bitch. I got the answers. That guy sounds like us. He sounds like us after a couple of hits of laughing gas. Dude, no. Like Joey's weed? No, man, that's elder abuse, man. That's like, you know, that's kind of like when that's happening, you're gonna go, okay, dad, okay.
2:08:56Okay, go to sleep. Or - Or - Or - Or - Or - Or - Or - Or.... Or - Or - Or - Or - Or - Or - Or - Or - Or - Or - Or - Or - going wild. Look at that. Go into it, measure and Coke. Spreads out the CIA playing. I like how he measures it though. Smart. Even though he's like doing crack, he's like, let me make sure I don't over dose. Yeah, I mean. I've got to like a lot of money on here. Yeah, right, yeah. I mean, it's very presidential the way he weighs crack. I mean, if my dad dies, like, you're gonna get a good sum. It's like a succession thing. Yeah. Like a show succession. Yeah. Do you watch it?
2:09:43I got into it and it was so intense, I stopped watching it. I was absorbed into it and then it was like, man, I can't do this every now. It's really good. It's so good. It's really good. It's a really, really good show and it ends amazing. Bravo. Bravo to the end. I just want to say, this is the best ending of any series I've ever watched. There's the only, and even in sopranos, I get what they were doing, but at the end I'm like, really? Oh, I didn't finish the sopranos either. The last episode of the sopranos is kind of like, I get what he's doing. I get it. You can't fault them. The fucking show is just genius.
2:10:15They can't have a bad word to say about one episode that I did enjoy. The show was amazing. They literally made a psychopath a hero. He was our guy. Tony Subrano was the fucking man. He had some, he had enough moral fiber that we accepted him. Right. And it was attractive that he was that guy. He's this fat guy. He's banging hot chicks, doing coke and he's running the mob. Yeah, it's great. I mean, that says I saw it. It's fucking great. And the end, they're all just sitting there and this guy seems to be paying attention to them. Oh, really? Yeah. And the idea is that the guy killed them. No shit.
2:10:56Yeah. So we're all hanging out here. And that's the end. The car parks. That's amazing. That's a cool ending.
2:11:12They're all eating onion rings. These people get out of the car and they start running. That's the daughter. She comes and sits down. That's right. No spin -offs. That's it. Don't stop. Bam, just stops. Wow. He's looking at somebody. I'm so genius. That's so cool. Looking at someone about to get riddled by bullets. Whoa, that's so cool.
2:11:38And fuck. That's amazing. That life, you're probably just waiting for the day with someone. Yeah. You killed so many people. Yeah. You've done so many horrible things. Yeah, it's so fucked up, man. Just think about that. Be cool, like not to get back to the Ukrainian thing, but think like being fucking Putin. How fucked up that feels, man. To like every day, what a rotten fucking day you're having. I mean, this is the thing, man. It's like with Biden, with Putin, all these people. They're too old. Give him a, like they need to, it's like, they're sucked into something they can't get out of. They all have their various maladies.
2:12:18And somehow we're letting that happen. Like globally, we're letting people who are clearly not okay up here, who are clearly like, man, like if you saw, let's imagine you, you walk into a 7 -11. And you see some old dude talking like, Biden was talking to Don Lemon. If you didn't stop and say, hey, are you okay? Do you, what's going on with you? You would be like an asshole. Like that's someone you help. Not someone you like put into a fucking job that melts people half your age down. And like all the shit is that. It melts people. It melts people. Where's the fucking compassion for this old man who needs to be like enjoying the last years?
2:13:05He's this, but I'm having this discussion while I'm wearing wolf hair. I didn't realize that I am too. Oh, fuck. But what are their options? That's the problem. What are their options? They have a vice president that seems, like she's not the best at it. And then who is on the horizon? Like who's gonna take that spot? Who's gonna take that leadership position? Who's there that makes sense? The option is, just start telling the truth. Like the moment. Right, but that's not going to happen with them. So, right. What they want to do is win and they want to stay in power. And even they can even justify that by saying that we are going to do the overall good.
2:13:45We have great ideas about social justice. We have great ideas about reshaping economy and making things more fair. And they've got some good points. There's not like the liberals don't have things that I agree with. I agree with most of what they say. Well, most of the idea, like the civil ideas. Like what? Well, most of the things about equality, most of the things about, like the idea that there's, there's like real income inequality in this country. It's real. And it's kind of creepy. And there's a source. And the source is opportunity. And if we don't create opportunity for these people that live in these horrible places, then we don't give a fuck about them.
2:14:29And then if we wonder why there's so much crime, we wonder why there's so much violence. And then you have to wonder, is there an industry that's based around making sure that people stay criminals? Well, there is. It's the prison industrial complex. It's a real thing. They need prisoners. And then you find out that prison guards unions lobbied to keep marijuana illegal. Right. They're like, what? Because they want more people in their prison. Yeah. They want to lock people up so they can make money. Right. It's crazy. And prison. So the liberals are right on a lot of these. I just think they're wrong in the approach.
2:15:03I think the approach is not to just exonerate people and let people out of jail and let fucking chaos ensue and defund the police. I think the approach is to start dumping money into this city. Start figuring out how to set up community centers. Start figuring out how to get people healthy food. Start figuring out how to protect people from gang violence. In fact, maybe have more police so that the police can prevent people from getting shot and killed so they feel safe in their community. But you have to get better police. So you need more money for training, more money for funding, more money for salary and make them feel like a respected, appreciated part of the community and then have oversight over them.
2:15:40Make sure that the people that have oversight over them are good people. They're good people exist. Yeah. But they're out there. We're mostly good. Human beings, I think, are mostly good. Fundamentally good. Fundamentally good. But we get covered up by defense mechanisms. That's the problem. That fundamental goodness is covered up and warped by defense mechanisms and confused motivations. I mean, fuck, that's the saddest part. Is it's like, when you say they want to win. Their idea of winning isn't even winning. It's just holding power. That's not winning. But that's winning. They think it's winning and that's what human beings do.
2:16:13We naturally play this game of winner and loser with almost everything. That's why neighborhoods, like people try to keep, that's the expression and keep it up with the Joneses, who's trying to win. You're like, hey, Mike got a Corvette, fuck him. Yeah. You know, I'm gonna get a Ferrari. Yeah. Mike, how do you like my Ferrari? You're a piece of shit. Right. You know, it's like classic comedy sitcom tropes. Right. Yeah, that to me is like, you're right. I think you're right. People want to win, man. People want to win and they're saying. That's like, it's dangerous to have cops pull people over.
2:16:44You know, there's something about that too. Like, you definitely should pull people over because they've had, but cops want, they want to fucking, they want to write tickets. They want to catch people. They want to bust people. They're supposed to bust people. It's the profit motive is fucking everything up, but it's like also what is creating some of the coolest shit ever. Yes. That's the problem. Like, it's a double edged sword. On one side, competition creates insane innovation based on market pressure. It's incredible. On the other side of it, you get people who shouldn't be millionaires. You get people who somehow have overcome their desire to have the next Ferrari and realize, oh, the better thing to do is help.
2:17:24Like, I just want to help public, the idea was it's a public servant, not someone who's manipulating the fucking stock market or selling their shit. That's the problem, man. It's really insidious. And it's like, on one side, it's like, all right. So if we regulate it, well, now you've got like the hardcore socialism starts happening. Now you've got redistribution of wealth. Now you've got, you're trying to reset the game in the middle of the game. And lots of people are like, no, fuck that. We're not resetting the game. Right? But then on the other side, if you don't do anything about it, then the game takes over everything.
2:18:01It's like, the government is now no longer a representative government at all. At all. It's just a weird bag of greedy miscreants who are all getting various checks from various sometimes competitive industries and making laws based on that. And that's not a government. That's, I don't know what that is. That's a casino or something. Not just people who got to the high roller table. Yeah. Or, no, it's like people who are like, I'm done gambling. I'm going to control the fucking casino. Well, that's what people are terrified about with generational wealth. That's why people are terrified of like very, very wealthy families that have transferred this money down to their children.
2:18:43Like, and the children don't earn it. Yeah, like that's the king. That's Joffrey. Yeah. You know, everybody knows what that is. That's why succession is such a good show. Cause you can relate to it. Right. Like, yeah, like what a, what fucking bizarre reality do they exist in? Dude, I don't know, but I wish I'd experienced it. I look fucking fun, baby. Oh my God. Can you imagine bursting out of that womb into some illuminati fucking delivery chamber? Guns blazing. Holy shit. It's the best. Oh my God. What a life. Private jets from birth. Oh, fucking incredible. In access to the adrenal chrome chambers.
2:19:24A adrenal chrome on the left. On the left. Just ever. Just use your irises. They'll let you right in. Dude, I can't even, that is just so crazy to imagine what that's like. What is that like? You never know. You never know what it's like to like worry about being able to like, you know, if you ever like gone out to eat with people and you have to run your credit card, you know, please God let it go through. How overdrawn is it? You know what I mean? Like, there was moments like, I'm about to get humiliated in front of my friends. You've never known that. You've only known endless infinite opulence.
2:20:00You're given, you have, your nannies have fucking nannies. You've got like, you're being educated by like, some of the smartest people on the planet. Your diapers cost as much as like, most people's like, wardrobe for the year. You know, like, for sure. Yeah, that's a really cool incarnation man. I strange because it doesn't give you the adversity that you need as a young person. It doesn't give you the challenges to overcome. It doesn't give you the real possibility that you could be broke someday. The real possibility that you might not have enough food. I think there's a superpower in growing up poor.
2:20:37I really do. It never escapes me. Never. Growing up poor, when I was a young boy and we were tricking like powdered milk and living off welfare, food stamps. I remember that. I remember that clearly. I remember that clearly. I remember shame. I remember all of it. Yeah. And so also, I saw my parents build out of that and then move to a respectable middle class suburb so that we could go to a good high school. Right. So I saw what hard work and all the thinking that was involved in planning this out properly led to get out of that. But we were in San Francisco in the 1970s and it was fucking weird.
2:21:26It was, I felt very vulnerable already, but then on top of that to be poor and then on top of that to be a latch key kid. So I was just like out wandering. I could just like leave and go anywhere. Right. Yeah, man. That formed you. Yeah, that forms you. And if you grow up on private jets and if you grow up always knowing that you're going to have money, always knowing that you're going to be fine, always knowing that you're going to be a part of an empire at one point that has wealth, the likes of which no one will ever be able to explain. Where your children will be billionaires. You can divide it evenly amongst their children.
2:22:07They'll be the worst as well. It's nuts. It's a different, it's like a different, universe, but those kind of people that grow up in that environment will never think like you do. They won't. They'll never think like I do. They won't. There's like extra gears that you have that you're born with when you live in poverty. I think that's let you look at all the great athletes, almost all of them. Unless they grew up in households that were like very strong households with a father really encouraged athletics and was like really a great coach and the kid like grew up competing and really enjoyed it.
2:22:43That's possible too. But in fighting in particular, boy, it's a lot of people from fucking dire poverty. It's a lot of people. But don't you think it's possible as a parent? Because like, I mean, my kids aren't scraping by and I know your kids aren't. Isn't it possible as a parent if you're lucky enough to not have to worry about that shit? Our parents worried about. Yes. To still create a childhood in a life that isn't imbalanced and has within it the possibility for failure and having to like figure out a douchebag. 100%. It's possible. It's just a different challenge. Like in life presenting you with challenges that you could have never predicted.
2:23:32You didn't ask for and they're right in front of you and you have to deal with them. People that go through that sort of a life, I think they have like way more defenses up, way more awareness of deception, way more awareness of people's ulterior motives and people who are creepy, people who aren't being genuine. And even I have both encountered plenty of people like that. Where you'll pull me aside and go, Hey man, I don't think this guy's cool. Like there's something wrong with this guy. Yes. Yeah. And you know, I'm not going to get that necessarily from everybody. Some people are not going to see that.
2:24:07Right. They're not going to have been in danger of situations where they had to like realize the consequences of not recognizing these kind of people early. Yeah, right. Sure. So you know, yeah, I mean, this is the, again, it sucks because it's like, yeah, what do you get? You get an inflamed fucking amygdala is what you get. You get like, you're a fucking brain. Just loves to spray out cortisol. And so like that's what you get because you came up with that. You watch your fucking parents freak the fuck out for your potentially your entire childhood. And so yeah, you're freaked out. You're living in like a weird battlefield that doesn't even exist anymore.
2:24:44Who was your childhood? Whereas like, yeah, some people, they didn't have that. So they're, you know, they don't go, they don't think about shit like that. They don't think about like, oh my god. This is person, is this person okay? Or oh my god, well, they don't have that that we have. I think it's due to honestly, man, I don't know. I do agree with you that adversity has to be in a human life. And if you remove adversity from a life, you do an incredible disservice to the potential of that life, to the potential of that life. Because it's just physics. But it can be in anything. It could be in disciplines.
2:25:26It could be in games they play. It could be in sports. It can be on a lot of things. But they have to do things like you got to do shit. You have to confront the learning curve. Yeah. So you got to learn how to get better at stuff. And then you got to be excited about that feeling that you get when you get better at stuff. Yes. That's a giant. That's a giant part of it. Dude, that's it. That's it. And you start connecting with that feeling is being actual success. Yeah. That's actual success. Not like whatever else the world gives you is fantastic. Don't get me wrong. Right. But if you never had that feeling in a lifetime and you were like sleeping on bags of fucking cash, it wouldn't mean anything.
2:26:04It wouldn't mean anything. But that's the weirdness of winning the lottery. It's the weirdness of all the sudden becoming a part of this hyper wealthy elite. And that's the weirdness of anybody's life in North America. Like if you're in North America, first of all, you hit the fucking lottery. If you're in the United States, oh shit, you don't even have to get vaccinated. Like if you're in Canada, Canada used to be an awesome spot to live until the lockdowns. And then it was like, what is happening up there? Yeah, what is happening up there? Going on. It's like all the places you would expect to have some like encroaching fascism happening.
2:26:48Never. Never Canada. Never my list of, it's very odd. Like you're doing under the guise of social justice and so crazy. But that is how you do that. Like if you want to do fascism, that's how you do it. Like you don't do fascism by saying like, hey, we're going to control the shit out of you motherfuckers. You do it by saying, hey, you better watch out because this thing is coming. And I'm the only one who can keep you from that thing coming, filling whatever that big is. Well, when they lock people out of their bank accounts for protesting, when they have the freedom convoy, they lock people out of their bank accounts.
2:27:19They lock people out of their bank accounts that donated. Not even that went there, that donated. You can't agree with them. You can't agree with them. We're going to take your money. So spooky. That's crazy. So spooky. That's so scary because it sends ripples of fear through everybody. And it should. It should. Just because you think you're doing it for the right reasons, that is there's a reason why we are so protective of the Bill of Rides. We're so protective of the Constitution. If you don't have something like that where it's written down, they just keep pushing the rules. Yes. They keep changing.
2:27:53They're making all these crazy new woke rules in Canada. You can't say shit about it. They're censorship of everything on the internet. They don't like. They can pull things down. They can do all kinds of wild shit. I don't know about the internet. What is it? I know it's about broadcasting. I know there's like, they've passed some new censorship legislation. I don't think it's the internet. I'm exaggerating. But what it is is spooky because that guy is like not being honest about what he did during COVID. He's saying they never forced anybody to get vaccinated. The fucking kind of did. You ruined their life if they didn't censorship bill.
2:28:29The Bill makes changes the Canada's Broadcasting Act. The legislation requires streaming services such as Netflix and Spotify to pace to support Canadian media content like music and TV shows. It also requires a platform promote Canadian content. Now is that it? That doesn't seem to be it. It says regulate though. Like what else is in the regulate? That's the good positive spin on it. It's a nationalistic effort. They want to promote more Canadian content. Still weird. But I know they've had that in the past. You know, they had that for like radio and for television. They had rules up there. I remember that because somebody I knew was a DJ up there.
2:29:10The Bill makes changes to Canada's Broadcasting Act. The legislation requires streaming services such as Netflix and Spotify to pace. It also requires a platform to promote Canadian context specifically the Bill says online undertakings shall clearly promote and recommend Canadian programming in both official languages as well as indigenous languages. The changes give the Canadian Radio Television and Telecommunications Commission Canada's Broadcast Regulator broad powers over digital media companies, including the ability to impose financial penalties for violations of the act. The government says the legislation is necessary to impose the same regulations and requirements in place for traditional broadcasters on online media platforms.
2:29:53Right now broadcasters are required to spend at least 30 % of their revenue on supporting Canadian content. Jesus. Online streaming has changed how we create discover and consume our culture and its time we updated our system to reflect that. A government news release on the Bill says. That's not good. None of that is good. That because them saying, are we not moving to a global entertainment world for the English language? Because it seems like it's kind of moving in that direction, right? I mean some of the best podcasts in the world, like Trigger Nometry comes out of the UK. There's a lot of stuff out of America that's very popular over there.
2:30:32Like who gives a shit? If it's Canadian or if it's American, like you're gonna regulate the internet. But to me the real creepy thing is the state. Is saying what Canadian culture is. Like culture isn't supposed to be something that kind of spontaneously emerges from groups of people. But they're not exactly saying that. They're saying you have to say that you could look at it in an altruistic way. You could say this is promoting Canadian content and it'll encourage more art to be created in Canada and it has more opportunities. That's fine. But you can't regulate that. You can't legislate that because you can't give those fuck heads power over creativity.
2:31:11You just can't do it. You can't do it. You'll ruin it all. You'll ruin the internet. You'll ruin it all. The bill's journey through powerment has been difficult. Rodriguez, Table, tabled the legislation, the House of Commons on February 2022. Nearly a year later, the Senate sent C -11 back to the House Commons with amendments. The House accepted most of the amendments but rejected others. So as it passed or not passed. This is the part I was trying to get at. One of the most contentious points of debate is whether C -11 would apply to user -generated content, such as podcasts and online videos.
2:31:45The government has insisted that the legislation is not intended to regulate independent content creators. Not intended is a rough one. Not intended is not a good way. I don't like that. It's not intended but it could be used in that way. Right. So they're just gonna have more power to tell you what to do. And if you're a Canadian person who is broadcasting a podcast out of Vancouver and you have a narrative that doesn't fit with what Trudeau wants you to say. Yeah. You could run into trouble. You could run into trouble. You can't have them have any power over the internet. No. You gotta say no.
2:32:20Dude, this seems like they passed it. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. I don't know. I'll check it. If you subscribe to whatever the particular modality of your government is in regards to censorship, controlling art, controlling public dialogue, right? You think, this is what you think. You think, well, they have to because I'm in danger of this or that. Whatever. Maybe they're good. They're good. Trudeau's online censorship law. He did it. LC -11 passes parliament. But dude, the problem is, the problem is, fucking Canada. You, you are thinking your government is gonna stay controlled by the people who's more ethics you believe in.
2:33:08But you look historically at the world, coups happen. Oh yeah. Secret coups happen. And then all of a sudden, all these rights you gave away, you've given them to the people who you were fighting against. What's that guys? Dude, that's the problem. It does it. Governments don't last long enough to let them have that much power. A previous Senate amendment to exempt user generated content from the bill was rejected by senators on Wednesday evening. God damn. So that means user generated content like podcasts are now under the grip of the Canadian government. Congratulations. Congratulations. That's so scary man.
2:33:45It's so dumb because it's an incremental push. Jordan Peterson's talked about this. This is how it works. They push you a little bit. You don't resist. They push you a little bit more. You don't resist. They push you a little bit more. You don't resist. And then you realize how far you've gone from the initial point. And that's what's happening. And that's what just happened in Canada. Yeah, just a very slow trajectory towards the control. It's the fucking internet. You can't like say that someone has to have 30 % Canadian content on the internet. That's bonkers. 30 % of Netflix. Do you know how goddamn insane that is?
2:34:19That's a lot. Do you know what they're acquiring them to do? That there's so much, you gotta what maybe they have to spend 30 % of their budget to promote it in Canada? Fuck out of here. Dude, it's awful. I can't believe it's happening. It's just so fucked up that people that we allow this shit to happen. Also why? Well, like why would anybody even want that control? Why? What's wrong with you? Well, what's wrong with you that you want to control the dispensing of information? You're lying. What's up? Right, like that's pretty much it. If you're fucking lying, you need to control. People's ability to challenge whatever lie you're telling.
2:35:02Right. In the more egregious the lie, theoretically, the more you have to like shut any kind of counter argument down. I mean, it's kind of conspiracy is that he's Castro's kid. He does look like him. He looks a lot like his dad. Dude, yeah. I don't think his dad's a kid. Yeah. The problem is his dad looks like Castro. Dude, look. Looks a lot like Castro though. I mean, maybe that's just something that starts at what if that's what happens? Like the more fashion you become, the more you're based on. He did. He ruined their career. You should do it too. Take a DNA test, bro. I would, if I was Justin Judo, I would do that just to like shame all the people who said I was Castro.
2:35:41Right. Whatever turns out, he's like 72 percent Cuban. You won't tell anybody. He's probably going to take that test. He's probably going to take that test and call this mom. What the fuck? Mom, you know, son, it was a lonely weekend. Castro's a wonderful man. Kind of cooler though, right? Like, I like the fucking. Unless you're living under his grip. Dude, of course. But if you're going to go fascist, put on a costume, right? I don't like it. You know what I mean? I like Castro. I was like, I'm wearing fucking camouflage. You are not going to like mistake me for anything other than an authoritarian leader.
2:36:15Like, look, I'm, look at what he, he dresses exactly the way they, exactly. But it's okay. To me, when fascism becomes like insidious, when it like learns to disguise itself as the opposite of what it is. Oh, dude, that is so spooky. You know, that's where it gets really scary. They're, you know, wolf and sheep's clothing. Did you ever see the video where they're asking Trudeau how his family is using recyclables and how, what are they doing to stop? Did not see that. It's, he's talking about his family drinking water. They've switched to bottles of water that are made out of paper. Those box bottles of water.
2:36:59You're going to see this, because this is, this is the real person. Like forget all the speeches. Right. You get all, this is the real person that they've allowed to be in control of their liberty. Right. See if you can find that. See, he's having a conversation about box water being, yeah. Yeah. Put it, put it back from the beginning. What's it? We have recently switched to drinking water bottles out of water, out of, when we have water bottles out of a plastic, sorry, away from plastic towards paper. It's hard to watch, but hard to look away. The Prime Minister... What the fuck? Yeah, that's their exceptional leader.
2:37:41I mean... That's when you catch him answering a question. Like drink box water bottles sort of things. The Prime Minister... Yeah. Drink box water bottles. Sort of things. Yeah. That's what he's done. That's the big contribution. I'm sure there's more, right? I'm sure he's done more. I'm sure he switched to solar. I'm sure he eats organic, whatever. But the point is, like that's the guy. That's the guy that's telling you we have to be able to regulate podcasts. Right. That's fucked up. Because if we regulate, we don't regulate podcasts, someone could play this very clip, like you and I are doing, from the great state of Texas.
2:38:13Yeah, man. We're a person could talk shit about someone who should be talked shit about. In that regard. If you want this to run in Canada, you're going to have to put a Canadian flag up or something. I don't think that's going to be the issue. I think it's going to be the issue of this 30 % thing. Like, what does that mean? Is it mean... If it's not broadcasting just in Canada. 30 % Canadian guests. Spotify Canada only. The Spotify Canada only has to like stuff itself with 30 % Canadian content. I mean, maybe they have enough Canadian content already. A lot of great stuff comes from Canada. I'm sure a lot of great podcasts come from Canada.
2:38:48Maybe they already have. Like, what, I mean, what's the percentage of podcasts right now that come from Canada? See, we can find that. Just let's just go to Spotify to say Google, what percentage of podcasts come from Canada on Spotify? I wonder if it applies to porn. Like porn sites will have to have 30 % Canadian porn. Yeah, they have to. Rules are rule, bro. The government is going to force people to make more Canadian porn. That's a problem with shit like that. It gets so absurd when you start unrepackaging it and realize all the weird things that... Yeah. ...in PS, who determines what is Canadian content?
2:39:29Let's say it was shot in the United States, but... Harlan Williams is a star. Yeah. It's Canadian. Yeah, and who is in control of saying this is Canadian content? This is not what if Americans go to Canada, shoot something. Is that Canadian content? How about they just do 30 % of their programming is Tom Green? We're good. That would be incredible. There will be real peace. I can't see them find that information. I don't know how. I would even do it because I'm trying and it's not. What percentage of podcasts come from Canada? Just try that. I don't know that anyone's even tracking that information.
2:40:03They might... They don't even know when cares where they go. Let's see. Let's give it a go. Yeah, man. I just... It's so weird. I know it's a weird Google, but I think... That is a weird Google. That's not going to get a response. It's like 75 % of what percentage of Canadians listen to podcasts, which is not what I asked. Oh. That's what I typed in, but that's what Google thinks I'm looking for. Because it's a weird question. How about what percentage of podcasts are created in Canada? Try that. Podcast.
2:40:36In Canada. Maybe create a sense of order. It's the same problem. It's not... It doesn't think I'm asking a very question. So maybe there's a chart out there of podcasts by country. So that's what I have, but that's list number one. So it's just listing the most popular... The most popular candidate podcast in Canada. Sorry. Oh. That are just coming from there. And within three decades to talk to someone in Canada who's tracking all that information and everyone has to be honest about where they're uploading and creating. You know, first of all, shout out to Canada for making me number one. That's cool.
2:41:11Yeah. I was looking for a Canadian named podcast, but these all just seem like normal. Yeah, those are normal in a color daddy. Huberman Lab number three. Jordan Peterson. Jordan Peterson. Yeah. It's just pretty so much the list. So damn. A lot of people have been on this one. That's cool. That must feel good. It's fucking weird. I won't tell you that. But, want some coffee? Yes. Take a break. Thank you, friend. Yeah, man. I don't know. I try not to... The other thing about it is... The more you fixate on the... Cheers, sir. Cheers, my brother. Congratulations. Thank you, sir. 2000. 2000 episodes.
2:41:52The more you fixate on the state, the state is an aggregate. It's a thing that... So the more people that fixate on the thing, the more powerful it grows. That's the other thing. The more it gets... It likes. You know, like people... When you realize they are enjoying negative attention... Yes. That's the state. It doesn't care what... Flavor the attention is. It just wants attention. Yeah. And the more it gets, the more powerful it gets, the more people believe in it. And that's all... If you believe it's gonna hurt you, or if you believe it's gonna help you, you're still supporting it. You're still bringing it into increasing levels of power.
2:42:29Yeah. So that's the other problem. It's like everyone gets all fixated on the government. Like that, the news has... Many news stations have just turned into an endless conversation about the government, endless conversation. Nothing about like human interaction at the basic neighborhood level. Just about like... I don't know how many people are running the show, but not that many. And it gives the impression that the state is God. Even if it's reacting to it like, we gotta stop this. You're still worshiping it, but with fear instead of like praise. You're still making it something incredibly powerful, which I'm not saying it's not.
2:43:09How much of that power is just coming from a general belief in the aggregate of whatever the fucking government has? Boy, I sure hope I'm using the word aggregate, right? Let's put it up now! Don't get it right! Get it right. Jesus, thank you. You're usually right. But Tansman kinda had a great quote about that. He said, we're doing the man's work for the man. That's it. That's a lot of it. Because it's like, how are you able to do these seminars where you're talking about things that are completely illegal? You're talking about these experiences with great detail. You're traveling all over the world.
2:43:45And he said, first of all, I think to paraphrase them, one of the things was, you have to keep it small. If you notice, he does these things, there's, you know, 100 people there, 200 people, 300 people. It's very small. Like, informal gatherings of people that are like -minded. And, you know, you keep your circle tight. Yeah. Yeah, you don't tune in, drop out, all that shit, where you're telling everybody to quit school and do as a... Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey! And that's Ken Keezy. Yeah. That's Ken Keezy and Tim Leary. Tim Leary and those guys, the Mary Pranksters, they were out of their fucking minds.
2:44:17Out of their minds. And they were reformulating what society would be. And here's the thing. They're not wrong. They're not wrong. They weren't wrong. They weren't wrong. Like, we want to think, like, oh, what they did was wrong. No, you live and you die, okay? You live and you die. And along the way, you have experiences. And you are free to go to Mary Prankster route in my world. In my world, you can go ham. Just do no harm. Just do no harm. Don't fuck people over. You should all be, like, the same ethical and moral consideration should be applied to all civilizations. Yeah. But the idea that these people can't just, like, drop out and fucking sell grilled cheese sandwiches at a grateful dead concert, like, says who?
2:44:56So, it's who? So, it's who? Fuck you. Like, fuck you. Yeah, they should be able to do whatever they want. And I think one of the things that I feel has come out of the internet is there's more of an understanding of the idea that this is not just one way to live your life. There's not just one life. This idea of, like, everyone has to get up at the same time and drive to some place to sit in a room with a fucking computer in front of them, entering information or dealing with whatever the fuck they're doing. They're like, this is the only way to live life. No, this is a life that we've somehow or another oddly structured.
2:45:33And you can participate in it if you like. But if you don't, there's other ways to live life. And that's real. And I'm not saying you should get into fucking school bus and everybody does acid. I am. But if you want to, I feel like you should be able to, if you're informed, if you really know what you're getting into, if you really understand it. Well, we're scared of as young people getting sucked into cults. Because that's a great way to get control over people. You tell them all to come with you and you all do acid in the field and then you don't do acid. And you tell these people that you're a god and you're fucking freak them out.
2:46:08And that's the fucking guy that owned the One World Theater. Right. That's what he was doing. Yeah. But I don't think he was using acid. He was using hypnosis. And just scalability. He probably threw a sass in there. He could have. But it was a lot of gullibility. It was a lot of, like, really, idealistic young people that just wanted to learn from a real guru. We're scared of that. Because I think there's a natural part of the human brain that was exposed during COVID that also works to get people into cults. That human beings, like, look towards a light to follow. We look towards the guiding light, we look towards the savior and we want to be right.
2:46:43We want to be correct. My savior is the real savior. My Buddha is the real Buddha. My god is the real god. My Buddha is the real Buddha. I'm sure. I don't doubt your Buddha. I can't not sing that really. I know I'm sorry. I interrupted your rant with this shit joke. It's a good joke. But I think that it's really, really important that we understand that this structure, the way this is all set up, it's all set up by people that didn't have happy lives. They didn't enjoy it. These people that are telling you you have to do a certain thing and go in a certain way, like, look at them. They look like Lindsey Graham.
2:47:17Yeah. So many of them look so unhealthy and so sad and so just confused as to what this is all about. And very few of them have had psychedelic experiences. Very few. Because if they did, they wouldn't be so sure. They wouldn't be able to just like keep saying the things the way they're saying. They wouldn't be able to talk the way they're talking. They would just be sick and buy it all. Dude, I don't know. I think that's a pretty big issue. I think that assumption, which we've all had, who've been benefited from psychedelics, that you get fucking Lindsey Graham, a nice whopping 500 microgram dose of LSD.
2:47:54He's going to come out the other side of that a new Lindsey Graham. I don't know. I don't know, man. I think... I'm talking about a camp. Okay. I'm talking about taking these motherfuckers to a camp in the jungle and dosing them up for like a year. Fascist rehabilitation camp. Fascist rehabilitation camp. That's what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about like one. Okay. I got you. Well, I had one bad experience. I'll tell you right, I'm right back to the whiskey and I'm ready to kill rushes. I got you. That's the best money I've ever spent. You can go right back to that. Remember that joke I used to say about DMT?
2:48:27It's like pressing control all the delete for your brain. When your brain reboots, your desktop is completely empty except for one folder. And that folder is labeled my old bullshit. Oh, yeah. You can either decide to open up that folder and go into it and just fall back into your same patterns. Oh, you can go. Let's look at this thing for what it really is. Right. So it's being caught in these patterns of momentum, of the past and of bizarre groupthink. Proclivities. I'm just listening to this audiobook. I'm always trying to listen to like some audiobook on spirituality. It's Pima Children's book, newest book about dying.
2:49:08Something like how we live is how we die. It's a very good book. Yes. But in this book, they're sort of talking about what happens when you die. Before your next life. Now, obviously you're going to have to subscribe to the model for Incarnature for this. But it's really interesting, which is what you're talking about, these proclivities. Or it's called Somsara. It's a loop. The cycle of suffering. The way that you know those people are like, why do I always, this always happens to be in a relationship. Or the thing in your life that keeps repeating. Yeah. This is happening because of your proclivities.
2:49:43It's happening because of your attraction to this type of person. Or this type of situation, this type of job. And if you look at proclivities, they happen fast. In any given moment, when you're making these decisions, it's not like you're spending a lot of time generally thinking about them. It's just spontaneous. Like the next word out of your mouth. You're not down there. Like, what do I say next? Right. Which is coming. So these are your proclivities. And then when you die, those proclivities, or what inform your next birth. So if you have not gotten past your spontaneous decisions that cause lack of harmony in your life, then that will be the momentum that carries you into your next birth, which is why in Buddhism, like you'll hear shit, like meditation is like preparing for death or practice of death.
2:50:33It's like you're trying to make it so that when you die, and if you die, nothing happens and you're dead forever. Congratulations. Fuck yeah, you're out. You did it. You're great. But if you die and you keep going, and that model is correct, then you don't want to be reactive in between lives, because you will freak out in number one that you're dead and you self -consciousness. That's very disturbing for some people who thought that you die forever. Now you're like, oh, fuck, I'm still here. And then you don't like not having a body anymore. You want to get back in a body. In the same way, so you fucking just, you see, you just dive into the next life as quick as you can, instead of having a little bit of consideration in between, you know, and not just that.
2:51:20You're essentially your projections, the proclivities, they become holograms, basically. So in that sense, do you believe in old souls? I believe in momentum. I believe that we have one right now, where am I right now, is I think that consciousness, or awareness, or what's called non -conditioned awareness, before the overlay. I think we all share that consciousness. And we're like little ripples in that consciousness. And that's our karma. Ripples in this consciousness that we all share. So I think every soul is out, it's transense time. Like it's all outside of time space. But I guess there could be the potential that certain people's addiction to rippling that, to being within the emptiness and having a body and a self and an identity, probably keeps them coming back here over and over and over again.
2:52:23That's what I would say. Again, this is a cosmology that is unquantifiable. And I don't think it matters necessarily if it's real, and not at least for me. I use it as a tool to help give me the motivation to be less of an asshole. I mean, and also when you're dying, and you know, whatever the next life may be for you, or nothing, who gives a fuck? It's like you reincarnate in a lifetime. Like you have many incarnations in any given human lifetime. You will go through so many different phases. And the more you gain control of your ability to not react, the more you will inform what you're growing into.
2:53:02The more it is a mindful or intentional personal evolution, versus a kind of chaotic mutation based on just you instantly doing everything your brain tells you to do exactly in the moment. Wow. I think that's very accurate. That very much resonates with me. Yeah. I'm saying that I'm like, I see what you're saying, because you kind of are reincarnated as you develop and grow as a human being. Absolutely. And you have to be. Maybe that was like the analogy from the Bible. Maybe that was what that was about. What? Like the reincarnation. Who knows what the fuck they really meant when they wrote those things.
2:53:47It's so hard to tell. I mean, I think unless you could go back and read, like if you ever read anything that's translated, like someone tweets something in Russian, like there's a lot of MMA fighters, they'll tweet something in Russian and I'll translate it. It's a little broken. Garbled. Yeah, it doesn't make total sense because the structure of the language is so different than ours. That's the Bible, man. If you could translate, first of all, if you could go back to the oldest version they have, which I think the oldest version is the Dead Sea Scrolls. That's the oldest version of the stories that wound up in the Bible.
2:54:21It's not necessarily the Bible. Yeah, some stuff in the Dead Sea Scrolls didn't make the cut for the, like it didn't get in there. But a lot of the stories are kind of similar. But there's a lot of wild shit in there. Oh my God. A lot of wild shit in the Dead Sea Scrolls. I know. I mean, there's a lot of wild shit in the standard Bible they put in the Tellerim drawers. But just imagine that that's the origin, right? So that's these animal skins that they found in clay pots in cumron. Yeah. And they do DNA tests on the animal skins to make sure that they align the pieces. Because it's all fragmented and broken apart.
2:55:02I have no idea. So they have to figure out how to do. Yeah, you have to have the same animal. So it's like, okay, well, this is the same animal skin because we're in a DNA test on it. And so then they get all the, it took forever. It took forever for them to do this. That's why that John Marco Allegro book is so fascinating. Oh, dear. Sacred mushroom across. Yes, that's where that book is fascinating. Because that guy studied the Dead Sea Scrolls for 14 years. And he was an ordained minister who became agnostic when he started studying theology. He was like, hmm, may hold on. Let me reserve judgment.
2:55:38Yeah. And he was a straight scholar. And it was his determination after all these years of studying the Dead Sea Scrolls, that the entire Christian religion was a misunderstanding. That what we think of it as today, what it really was, was about the consumption of psychedelic mushrooms and fertility rituals. And that it was all baked into the stories. And that the stories, like even like the apple, like the forbidden apple, I mean, they're talking about the amity to miscarry a mushroom that looked like an apple, which is red. And apparently even the translation of it, and some people translated it to red instead of like that apple, that's the term that it actually means red.
2:56:19That's what they're trying to say. They're not even trying to say apple. Yeah. We've just converted it to an apple because that's the best, you know, that story. The way that story comes together, that you don't listen to God, you eat the apple, and then, oh, fuck, now you ruined everything. Yeah. And that's kind of what he's saying about the whole idea of these psychedelic mushrooms, that they're hiding these things from their conquerors. They're hiding these things from the Romans. So they, I mean, imagine if you had access to God and you had a marauding intrusive army, that's about to come into it, but you want to document all this stuff.
2:56:57Right. You have to kind of fucking document it in parables. Yeah, hide it. To hide it in stories. Draw fish in the sand to let people know you're a Christian, which is so cool. The underground Christianity is so cool. And the stories of the Christian saints getting fucking butchered and ignited, and then like crying not because they're being emulated, but for the people emulating them. Oh, oh, shit. That is so hardcore, man. Hardcore. And to get back to your other thing, you know, about like that folder on the desktop. This is, if you want to understand, it always confuses me the whole born again thing.
2:57:36That's what they're talking about. It's like you have to, you have to like fucking get rid of that folder. Yeah, you gotta get rid of that. And you, and also what's cool about it is you kid, it's saying you can. You don't have to like be that. You don't have to like continue on this like dark shitty neurotic, sad, depressed, selfish, greedy, angry, shadowy life. Like in any second, there is a way to enter the kingdom of heaven, which is apparently here, like stepping into another universe. What the Nostics called noses to wake up to like real reality and not the reality of the demi -erge, which is what I would say.
2:58:17If you want to find like what the demi -erge is, it is the hypnotic zeitgeist that is being presented to us by hierarchical power structures that presents a universe of suffering and sorrow and hell with no solution ever offered. No one is safe. No one is safe and nothing can fix it. No one will fix this some version of that. And what you do is you hypnotize people. And now they worship you because they're connecting to fear. And so this is like the story of like, you know, you embody that force, call it whatever you want. Satan, you embody that force and that. Hitler, Hitler embodied Satan. Yeah, just follow me.
2:58:59Imagine Hitler when he was, what's that famous speech that he gave? The one that's available, you could actually watch it on YouTube. I don't know. I was in front of this gigantic throng of people. I mean, he is the guy that's leading the Holocaust. He is the guy that's trying, and he's hopped up on meth. Hi, as a kite. Hi, as a kite on meth. They're shooting testosterone into him. He's out of his fucking mind. Blast it. They're giving him cocaine injections. Look out. Hi, he is. Can you hear some of this?
2:59:37No, if you're a regular person and you see someone talking with this kind of power.
2:59:48Bro, you've seen him tweaking out of the Olympics. Oh, dude, that's my favorite Hitler. Incredible. I had hardcore tweaking. See if you can find that Hitler tweaking. Let's see, that speech is fascinating because you're seeing it from there. There's some speeches where you see the size of the crowd that he was rowing for. There he is tweaking. Not fun. Now, if you wanted to bring Satan into the material world, you would do it through a guy like Hitler. That's essentially Satan in the material world. He essentially was Satan. You would do it. He was like a pawn of Satan. If Satan is a real thing, what is evil?
3:00:27You're being silly. If it is evil, it exists. Body evil. The Holocaust was evil. What he did was evil. How do you know that's not Satan? It's literally Satanic ideas embedded in a human being. That's real. That's a real thing. You can call it evil. You can call it corrupted by money. You can call it corrupted by power. You can come up with a bunch of names for it. It's just evil. What? He's still moving really fast. I thought they sped it up because the guy that is moving really fast too. I think cameras were kind of goofy back then. Yeah, but he's just tweaking hard. No, if fans are buts. He's tweaking hard.
3:01:07It looks like he's getting a rough back massage, but nobody's there. It looks like he's fucking. Oh, dude, he's about to pass out. Bro, that guy was just a girl. And everybody's so scared of him. And no one's like, dude, relax. Why are you fucking rocking like that? Take some CVD. Someone on a podcast had the story. It might have been Dan Carlin, but there was a story about when Hitler, maybe it wasn't. I'm not sure. Hitler went to visit Mussolini. And apparently he had just got back from a campaign and he was exhausted. And so they shot him up with testosterone and they shot him up with cocaine.
3:01:41And Mussolini was going to try to get out of the war. And Hitler just fucking cornered Mussolini and just talked at him for like six hours. Fuck. Mussolini was like, okay, okay, I guess we're in. Fuck. Dude, imagine getting cornered by Hitler when you're on coke. You're bolt on coke, probably. I bet everybody was on coke back then. Dude, do you know the story of... I have to feel good. No, that's a good story. You know the story of Diodgenies? I don't know how to pronounce it. There's a story. This is some great philosopher and Caesar. Here's about this great philosopher. Apparently he was an ascetic.
3:02:17He's living by a river. He's eating out of like a dog bowl. But he's revered as this brilliant, brilliant mind. And so Caesar goes to visit him with his like, you know, I don't know, chariot. You know, the imperial regalia. Because he wants to co -opt the philosopher. That's what the state wants to do is to create a connection between the philosopher and the state. So he goes there and he says to him, you know, I'll give you anything you want. Just what is it? And he goes, can you move a few steps to the right? You're blocking the sun. The ultimate takedown of that bullshit. You're just a fucking person.
3:03:06That's all you are. Whatever it is you've convinced other people to think you are, you're just like me. There's really no difference. And you just are doing everything you can to steal the limelight from nature, from God, from the light. And it's so obvious. There's nothing there. It's smoke and mirrors. Wizard of Oz. It's when he comes out from behind the fucking curtain. There's nothing there. Especially nothing compared to when you take the mushrooms that apparently inspire the Bible. And you get the direct transmission. And the direct transmission really doesn't give a shit about people like that.
3:03:46It's almost oblivious in a weird way. But here's the question. Do you think that in order for significant cultural change, sometimes people like that have to exist to elicit outrage? And that's what wakes people up. That's what leads people to understand that you just can't just let these feeble minds run civilization. You just can't, you can't, and you gotta get involved because if you don't get involved, they stay in power. Right. And the same fucking system corrupts your children, their children, everyone's children in the future. Everyone's a prisoner of this fucking stupid thing. That's it.
3:04:20And it's not worth it. It's not worth it even for the people that are perpetuating it. Because you're not going to live forever. You're going to live and you're going to die. And everybody's on the same fucking path. We got to make it better for everybody. And the only way to make it for better for everybody, the only way to make it better for everybody is you got to remove money and influence from any of these decisions. You can't let people make money because you've made decisions to kill folks. You can't let people make money because you've made decisions to imprison people. Right. You can't reward it.
3:04:52But you know, I think there's a precursor step. I mean, the first step is mushrooms. Even before you take the mushrooms, stop being an idolater. Like in the fucking Bible, I always was confused. Like, what's this worshiping false idol shit? Because it just seemed odd. I was like, why the fuck does God give a shit about that? It created the universe. So what? They're like throwing flowers at a cow. Who fucking cares? But now, my old age, I get it. Because it's not, it's obviously, it's representing, don't let anybody trick you into thinking that they're God. Don't let anybody trick you into thinking that they are some whatever the fuck it is.
3:05:34Don't let, don't let a middleman tell you that he's got a direct line to the divine that you don't have. Because whatever that may be, whether it's literally God, whether it's some access to some world of scientific information that you're too dumb to understand, whatever it may be, don't fall prey, don't succumb to that level of manipulation. And the best way to do that is to look for the truth. And for me, that's God. That's aligning with what I would think of as a transcendent benevolent, ever -expanding consciousness. And then this is where the mushrooms come in. And at that point, once you get a taste of that, then those tricks don't work anymore.
3:06:17They don't work as well. They could still work. But it doesn't work as well. It's like you're not going to, it's like, if someone's giving you a walk -to -stake, and then like, they're like, hey, do you want to go eat delicious steak with me here or should we just go to Sizzler? What are you going to say? What are you going to say? And so that's the idea. It's like those people are Sizzler. It's not. It doesn't, you, you, you, number one, you don't care as much that you might die. Because you've connected with something that seems to transcend death. And so then once you've done that, what power do they fucking have?
3:06:54Now you're not afraid to die. Now they're burning you alive and you're praying for them while you die. What? What a mind -fuck. What a mind -fuck. Watching someone you're emulating, cry, and pray for you. Because they, they, they, they, they, they see how lost you are. Mmm. Ooh. That person is not sleeping anymore. Like you're not sleeping after that. You, you, it's so powerful. But you got to anchor yourself in something other than the world. Or the world will drag your ass all over the place. Well, the world that we live in is the world of the animal. We are animals. And we're, we're so connected to this biological existence that is fueled our evolution.
3:07:33That's what we were a long time ago. And we still have that DNA. Yeah. That DNA of the survival animal that is being threatened that's in the world. And encroached upon by it, it's just the competition of survival of the fittest amongst the breed. And we go watch it and you watch it in that chimpanzee show. You watch the way chimpanzees do it. Yeah. Like we're, we're an accelerated version of it. That's it. That's just us. And there's God to be an understanding of that. If we're going to, we, we've got to understand that we're susceptible to like someone running things. Right. It's susceptible to a leader.
3:08:10It's a natural built -in. And it's not like we see this person and like that person is so good at life. They should probably run everything. Sure. It's not like that. It's like we just need someone. Yeah. Like who's my, are you my daddy? You're not my daddy. You're my daddy for four years. But I'll tell you why we're going to vote you out daddy. Get a new daddy. We need the country needs a new daddy. Yeah. You know, we're now going to a grandpa. We got a grandpa, grandpa's got problems and we try to ignore it. You know, we try to pretend it doesn't exist. But you know, everybody's like, no, it's a little bit of a nightmare.
3:08:40And then every four years you get a new daddy. And sometimes you hate daddy. Daddy sucks. Daddy's a racist. It's like your mom keeps marrying dudes. Daddy doesn't want Mexicans to get in here. Yeah, man. Yeah, right. You know, the whole, yes. Yeah. And the whole fucking thing is so dumb. So dumb. Because you, you're, you're, you're, what's really nuts is like you're spending, at least I'm basing this on scanning Twitter. Apparently all of your day angry at the government. Or angry at people who don't like the government. And the whole time that that's happening, your life is just. Rodding away.
3:09:17Rodding and melting away. Your chance to like be in the world and experience actual reality where the daddy is the seasons. And the daddy is gravity and the daddy. Space. Space. You miss all of that. And so you like instead of like connecting to sky mind as it's called sometimes, you're connecting to like this one pixel in a, in a, in a, in a tiny little fragmentary part of human history. And you are generating powerful emotions from the machinations of whoever this person may be. It's very sad just because you're missing out on the bigger picture probably, probably. Like it's a bigger, it's, it's a bigger thing out there.
3:10:05How exciting. Like even if you're the most profound atheist in the world, do the experiment. Like do an experiment. Pray. Don't, like just, it doesn't matter how you pray. Pray like an asshole. Pray abusively towards God. Like do any form of prayer at all. You just have to be open -minded about what happens over the next few days. Just be open -minded. Throw in the mushrooms. See what happens. Because even if it's all bullshit and there's just something built into the DNA of humanity, that when we invoke a deity, it makes our lives better. Your life is better. Yeah. Even if it's some materialist explanation behind why the majority of people on the planet believe in prayer and will claim that it's made their life better, great.
3:10:51You've figured out some like hack for your biology, you know, but what if it's real? Shit. Well, what if it's real because of the hack? Right. What if that's what it is? It's like you just have to get your mind to a state where heaven is real. You get your mind to a state where there is a God. Yeah. Yeah. You don't, you just, and it's not like you believe it, you have to believe it forever either. But also, if it's a God beyond your comprehension, beyond the comprehension of the mere mortal brain to just even envision what that means. Wouldn't it mean something that created the universe? Sure.
3:11:30Okay. Well, something definitely created the universe. So if there is a God, it's left a giant fucking footprint. Right? It's letting you know it's done this. And universe might say, well, it doesn't exist because there's not really a man, the clouds, and there's not a guy with a beard, some patriarchal asshole, runs the world, and doesn't like gaze. That's not what we're talking about. That's the God of man. But whatever it is made the universe is a thing. What is that thing? Is it just chance? Is it just chance? Is it just atoms, colliding? Is it just a bunch of chaos going on in a fucking hyperspace form?
3:12:05Is that what it is? Okay. Maybe that's God. Maybe that thing is God. Yeah. Because it literally creates everything. You are. So whatever that is. At one level, it is that. At another level, it's a unified, harmonious event. Now, because this is the idea, this is a distinction, absolute reality. This is the sum total of all things. This is when you know you've taken the right dose of mushrooms where you are gone. Unit of consciousness. You are now part of the whole. Hmm. That's absolute reality. Relative reality is the chaos. One does not negate the other. The two are working together in this beautiful dance that they do with each other.
3:12:49And so, so if you get lost in one or the other, you're going to embarrass yourself. This is the thing. If you get too caught up in absolute reality, then you're not paying your credit card bills. This is when Jesus said, off -run to Caesar, what is Caesar's? It's like you must acknowledge the material world because you're fucking in it and you've got to pay bills. Doesn't it also mirror the free will argument, the free will versus determinism? Like, determinism states that you have no free will. Right. But clearly you do. Yeah. You know you make choices. Absolutely. We all make choices. The idea that these choices are only made because of the contents of your existence.
3:13:28Kind of true, but also you can learn and make better choices next time. Like, there's something going on. So, both things I think are going on. But, but people want to be very dogmatic about it. They will argue to the death that it's only determinism. And people will argue with the death to the death that free will is what really shapes the world. Yeah. The determinism is nonsense. And there's been plenty of examples of people that came from horrific backgrounds. It grew to become exemplary people. Yeah, the continuum runs from this kind of like, I don't know, eternalism and nihilism. That's the continuum.
3:14:03Yeah. So, you know, when you get imbalanced in one or the other, there's like, it has a real effect on your life. But the idea is, you know, for example, like, does God change? Well, maybe the personality of God changes. Maybe the idea that we aren't part of God. That if God is the totality of all things and the sum total of all lives that have ever lived outside, outside and inside of time, you're part of God. You're part of the evolution of God. You're part of the outgrowth or outflow of the divine consciousness. Like, that is who and what you are. And so, you change. So, God changes. In fact, it appears that God loves change because things are constantly changing within that creation, if you want to use that.
3:14:54In the universe. Yeah. Nothing is an esthetic state. Right. Which is why it drives me crazy when people talk about controlling the climate. And I'm like, listen, we should definitely stop polluting. We should definitely stop releasing CO2 from emissions if we could do that. We should definitely stop doing all those things. We should definitely figure out a way to fuck do something to stop the harm that industrial agriculture is doing to Earth. Absolutely. We definitely should figure that out. Also, this shit that's going to happen that you got no say in ice ages, super volcanoes, asteroid impacts, nuclear war, earthquakes.
3:15:30Yeah. There's some shit that goes down and has gone down. And that's what shaped the very mountains you're vacationing in stupid. Like, that's literally the earth being upheaval through the bottom by molten lava. Right. The rise of the cross, the crazy some majestic peaks that you have to ski down. You fucking ape. Yeah.
3:15:51We have to protect nature. Like, nature's not going to protect you. I'll tell you that. It'll shake everything off and start again every fucking billion years if it wants to. It's, I think it's very scary at first. If you really acknowledge the reality of how finite you are and how the planet that you're on is uncontrolled. Uncontrollable. And that we, maybe we can make some shifts. I'm not obviously clearly carbonate. Everything you said. Obviously. Yeah. Obviously. Everyone wants clean water. Everyone wants clean air. We all want that stuff. Stop pretending. Some part of your species is like somebody dumps some oil in that fucking ocean out there.
3:16:39I want some. It's, it's, it's, it's very condescending. And I think it's like a non -productive if your goal is to get everyone on board telling half of the people or whoever that they're fucking idiots is not going to get them to your rallies. Like there needs to be a little more compassion towards, towards those people. But yeah, man, to deal with the, the real truth, which is like no one's going to remember you in about 200 years. No one will think about you. No one's going to remember you. No one's going to care about you. No one will visit your grave. There will be no, does it one dreaming of you because they're going to be dead and they're you're gone.
3:17:19And it doesn't matter even if they do care about you. Because you're gone. You're gone. You're out, you're out. You're out. I hope you did a good job of informing the people of everything you learned around you. And the hug is many people so they miss you. But that's about it, buddy. We're all on some weird, infinite journey. And I think some people have gotten a little confused into thinking that what they don't understand that they're, they're, they're attempt to like quote save the planet, which again, please do is actually an attempt to keep themselves from dying. Yeah. That's what it is. It's also a righteous ideology to attach yourself to that elevates your social standing.
3:17:58That's a problem with all environmental movements. That's true. There's a lot of people that run them that are douchebags. And there's a lot of people that are run them that are beautiful, amazing people that really do just want to change the world. Absolutely. And then there's people that attach themselves to movements. Because if you attach yourself to a righteous movement, you must be a righteous person. And so it exonerates some of all their shitty personality traits because they can say, Hey man, I'm fucking doing this for the earth. You know, and they have all this shitty fucking energy that's attached to a cause that you probably support.
3:18:26Yeah. Like, hey man, how about fuck you? And then you don't even like the environment anymore. Now you want to use plastic straws. Just fuck the turtles. Yeah, man. I just don't see how a strategy that has built into it condescending aggression is going to create the massive changes that you are prescribing. Yes. How the fuck is it even going to work? How is it possible? You are ignoring the entire human biome and the psychology of that biome. Yeah. Thinking, what are you going to do? Shame people into like, not using plastic. You're going to humiliate people. What do you do? Yeah, what are you going to do?
3:19:01How does that work? It doesn't work. It's never going to work. Yeah, it doesn't work. I saw a fucking meme online that was amazing. It was a paper straw in a plastic package. It's amazing. Looking at that. Like, how ridiculous that is. Exactly. How is that not in the Babylon B or something? Like, is this real? They really have a paper straw that's wrapped in a plastic package. Fucking crazy. That's so nuts. But it didn't really all come out of that one sea turtle that got a straw up his nose that horrible video that was washed. That was horrible. Yeah, it came because of that sea turtle. I bet there was coconut straw.
3:19:40Some kind of like, it's a lantian coke. I think Joey Diaz actually said that. It's funny. A paper straw in a plastic wrapper. The green movement in a single picture. I think I might have stolen that from Joey. Joey, sorry. That's still a very funny joke. Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out where I heard that. I think it's Joey. It's like, okay, let's think about the language of it. Right? Things are getting hot. We got to cool them down. Yes. Cool yourself down first because this is the idea is you are part of the planet. Yes. And you're like, if you, the energy that you are invoking every day is hot, angry, fiery energy.
3:20:16The fact everyone around you and then it affects them as they affect other people. So since you're part of the planet, aside from doing all the things that make sense regarding carbon emissions or whatever it is that you think it's going to fix things, you have to do something a lot harder than recycling. You have to calm down and get real peaceful because I think that's what you want in the world. That's what everybody wants in the world. But it's just hard when you don't have it in yourself. So if you don't have it in yourself, you have to take control of your own biology and your own mind and help yourself first.
3:20:49Once you help yourself and you put that energy out there, you could affect the people around you. They can affect the people around them. It's one of some neighborhoods are better than, you know, not just because of economics, but also because some neighborhoods are like filled with nicer people. Yeah. You know, it's like you get a good neighborhood. You got a good neighborhood. That's beautiful. You got a great neighbor. Like, hey, buddy, what's up? Yeah. Like you're cool with them. It's the best. It's nice. It's actually fun. It's wonderful. You know, I had the best fucking neighbor in California.
3:21:15He's a nicest guy. And his fucking house caught on fire. And my friend Bud actually had his house fire put out because he was friends with the fireman and he stayed in while they evacuated. Wow. I'm so happy that they saved this guy's house. That's so cool. Such a good dude. It's such a, it's so nice when you do like like people and you see him, like, there's a guy in my neighborhood and every time I drive by, he waves at me. Yeah. He's his old fellow and he's always like tending to his garden. He's out there in the front and every time anybody drives by, this guy waves and I wave to him and I look forward to it and I drive that way during the day because I know that he's going to be out there because I want to say hi.
3:21:53Yeah. See that's, it's so simple. It's like in such a little love thing. We're just exchanging love. Don't put your fucking condescending political sign in your yard. You know what I mean? Yeah. And it's like intentionally cutting you off from your fucking neighbors, presupposing that whatever their particular political ideologies are, their roots compared to you. Stop doing that. You are creating the problem you're trying to fix. Yeah. Just via the mechanism you're using to fix the world is condescending fucking patronizing signs designed to infuriate your fucking neighbors. That is a weird one when you see those signs on people's lawns.
3:22:39It's like, what are you doing? Yeah. How about you put, I love you in your fucking yard. How about you do that or like, I'm over if you're hungry. Do that. That's bad ass. I saw a dude in front of his house. He had a painted gigantic painted sign. There's a hunk if you love Trump. That is really. You want to get out of my dog in front of his house. It's all day. Fuck it. Fuck. Torturing. He's in there wearing a like, that dude is not experiencing any peace. No peace. No peace. No real peace because real peace. Also fuck you. A lot of fuck you. I'm sure people probably roll the window down. You'll fuck you.
3:23:20Fuck you. You worship the golden calf. I worship the silver calf. It's a war of idolaters. You worship the monkey of light. You dummy. Yeah. You fell for it. You fell for it. You sucker. Yeah. It's just a spell of Trump. Yeah, exactly man. Get that mega cult. Yeah. The whole time. Yeah. The real like reality is we're sharing a planet and we're all basically the same. Yeah. And that's the truth. That's the truth. That's the truth. That's the truth. It's in some people aren't like confused and some people aren't and every the best thing to do is to like help. Yeah. Regardless. Like help. Like your friend who put out the fucking fire.
3:24:02Yeah. He wasn't like, what, wait, who did you vote for again? Right. Well, I guarantee you that guy voted Democrat. My friend is not. Yeah. It's like altruism is is is is is is non political. What should it used to be? It used to be okay. It used to be okay to have differing political views. Yes. People used to have friends that were Republicans and friends that were Democrats and everybody was okay together. Now everybody's like isolated in a tribe after Trump. Trump because he's so bombastic and he's got so much ego and it's so crazy. Like, I think even if he's good to get us away from the swamp, he's bad for the way people interact with each other because they hated him so much.
3:24:41There's never been a guy that like people openly hated like that. That was running for president. I mean, name one that was president that people openly hated because even W after 9 -11, people were on his side. Yeah. After 9 -11, I remember he made that speech and we will get all those people that did that and we're smoke him out of their holes. Like, we're like, fuck yeah. Yeah. Everybody was like, fuck yeah. The whole country had fucking American flags in their cars. People that are young that don't remember those days. Maybe too young for it. And it was a fundamental shift in the way everybody thought about everybody.
3:25:16People were letting people in. They were letting people change lanes. People were waving to people. It was weird. It was weird. Everybody had decided to chill the fuck out. Yeah, man. And joined together. We realized like, we're all in this together. We're all Americans. Yeah, you can do it in that, you know, you can do that without war. You can do that without war. And you could do that the way you do, like, as above so below, if we, regardless of whatever the fucking news is telling us, why we should hate this person and why we should like that person, if we ignore that shit and we all just start finding ways to connect with each other, the very least just stop judging people as harshly as you are, I think the government will follow.
3:25:59I think like, well, wag the dog, so to speak, that the government is like a reflection of us and that the more we like just delete that folder, abandon the fucking programming, abandon the way they've been separating us and there's so many ridiculous factions that are supposed to hate each other, the more we could expect the government to shift. And maybe that's naive. It might not be naive. It might be the only way. And also the people that get into the government, people that grow up with this message, instead of being indoctrinated into that system, they come in there with like an eye for change, like a mind for change.
3:26:42It is possible. Change is always possible because we are at the living embodiment of the fact that change is possible, right? We're the biggest experiment in self -government the world has ever known. And right now there's, there's factions of our world that are working to try to undermine the whole self -government aspect of it. Well, yeah, it's because the federal fucking government doesn't need to be that big. I mean, like we have this like gargantuan fucking massive federal government that needs to get paid or down. And, but - And it wants to keep power. And it wants to divide people in there.
3:27:19There's a lot of people in there that need to be paid. Like, there's a lot of money flowing. We're supposed to be on the same team. Yes, we're all supposed to be Americans. And that brings me back to the aliens. Yes. Because if there is anything that's going to wake people the fuck up to how weird this whole thing is, is if all these people that are coming forward, all these people that are talking about us having retrieved alien crafts, the Varginia incident in Brazil, that they documented in that film a moment of contact, which is amazing. James Fox moving. I don't know if you're saying it. It's fucking incredible.
3:27:57It seems like there was a crash to UFO. It seems like there was a crash to UFO in Varginia, Brazil in 1996. And it's like they have, you go into the town, they have a replica of it that's at the beginning of the town. Like it's like, was you're entering into the town, they have a fucking UFO. Everyone who was alive back then has a story of seeing these things flying through the air. The people that made contact with these creatures, one of them died of a horrible bacterial infection. There's record of them transporting it to three different hospitals. Wow. Yeah, wild shit, man. Wild shit. They did an autopsy on it, supposedly the Air Force supposedly flew into Varginia, Brazil and came back with the wreckage.
3:28:39Wow. Yeah. Why did Brazil give, like, oh, you mean the Brazilian Air Force? No, the United States. Why did they give away their UFO? Because they probably had to. There's a problem. Look, governments give countries, aid, they do this, they do that. We work this, we'll protect you from that. We'll do this to help you from that. There's a lot of weird shit going on. And if there's one country that really does have both possession of crashed UFOs and has a whole division, a secret division where they find crashed UFOs and retrieve them. And this is what this guy David Grush is saying. Yeah. He's saying they do have that.
3:29:18And they are in possession of that. And then they're lying to Congress. They're not showing Congress this. And they're not showing the American people this. But if they did, if we knew how much of, I mean, that's the Ronald Reagan speech to the United Nations. Did you ever heard that speech? Yeah, sure. It's an amazing speech. Yeah. Because it made all the people the UFO doors go. Yes. Right. It's real. But there was nothing forever, nothing. You have to be a UFO fanatic. From like 1980 to like 2017. You had to be a moron. Come on. I was a moron. Look, I was one of those guys. But you had, there was not much.
3:29:57You weren't getting much. You occasionally get a book. I remember, I mean, Roswell, you had Roswell. You did have Roswell, but you also had some weird stuff. And one of the weird things we had was the, the abduction phenomenon. That was very weird. Well, yeah. Yeah. The guy from Harvard, John Mack, who did all those hypnotic regression sessions with people that claimed to have been abducted. And they were eerily similar. Yeah. eerily similar. But apparently people have like questioned his methodology and people have questioned like the leading nature of whether or not he led people into these thoughts, you know, like by questioning them, asking them, okay.
3:30:40What have you experienced? Have you been experienced, have you been countering UFOs as an alien? I don't know what he asked. You know what it's called swamp gassing? That you know what that term swamp gassing? No, what's that? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You attribute it, yeah. Yeah. So people are having legitimate experiences all around the fucking planet. And then people are like, they're, they're all crazy. Right. Or they were all tricked into saying something. What are the criticisms of John, see if you can find Google criticisms of John Mack abduction, hypnotherapy. Man, I got to use that.
3:31:12I got to use that. This is the problem with these things. Like we have a zipper on the back. Oh, no. Yeah, I got to like unzip you here before you could pee. I was wearing it. Should we end this? We're at like four hours. Four hours. Yeah, it's been four hours. Dude, we can't end it on the other middle of a UFO thing. We got to finish out the, I will hold. Okay. I will piss in my fucking furry outfit. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I got to do it. That's something. I got it. I don't want that something meow, meow, does. What do you got? The John Mack thing.
3:31:45I remember talking about it. Oh, the John Mack thing. Yeah, that's right. How are you doing? You're all right over there with your pee pee? It's hard, right? It's hard to concentrate. Meow, meow likes to pee on himself. No, meow, meow, don't do it in a mixed video. He's already done that. He's pissing here half a dozen times. In the old one, he's still like pissing kombucha bottles. Yeah. So he interviewed all those children in Zimbabwe that had a mass sighting. And that one, that one's a very compelling, very, very, very compelling because all these kids have the same story and he talks to them independently.
3:32:18And they all have the same story. Look, look, man, if these fucking whistleblowers are telling the truth, we have been visited. Yeah. And these kids are telling the truth, which makes way more sense than they're all just lying and they all have the same story. Yeah. It doesn't make sense. It's going to be so fun to go back through every single, like, one of these events that we have rolled our eyes at from the perspective that we have UFOs. Can you play some of this, Jamie? Yeah, this is it. When I remember reading about this, though, I would just want to add this. And I read that this is be antithetical to what he's saying or what we're hearing right now.
3:32:52He spoke to all these kids in like a big room. There's like 60 kids and he talked them all once and asked if sort of was like leading them on questions. Did you see this? Did you see that? And a couple of them did. And then when they're in this environment, where he's talking to them one on one, they're kind of all remembering what they talked about in that room. Oh, that's what I read. Interesting. I don't know if that's exactly what happened, but that's what I read to be like. Well, let's just hear the kids talk. I mean, where was the pointy part? It was the pointy part in here, or was the pointy part up there?
3:33:22And what was this? Back it up, Jamie, so I can hear what he's talking about here. Like a pointy part up there. No. Did you see the eyes? Yeah, here it is. What did they look like? They were okay, like that. Where was the pointy part? It was the pointy part in here, or was the pointy part up there? And what was the feeling when you looked at the eyes? It was scary. And what, scary, why? What made it scary? The eyes looked evil. Evil. And what was evil about them? Say what you mean by evil.
3:34:10It looked evil because I was just staring at me. With what? The staring at you as if what? As if to do what? As if I wanted to come and take us. As if it wanted to come and take you. That was the feeling you got. Did it wanted you to go with it? Did you feel like you wanted to go with it? No. Did you feel... What was the effect on you when you felt hit wanted to have you go with it? I just moved to where I started crying. They came running up here in such a panic. And even if we had staged that they could not have run all together like that. You can have prexisted it, I don't know how many times.
3:34:50They came up here like a living snake. And they just came... We were in a soft museum. We just heard them screaming and screaming. Ah! Then they were, yeah. And the child can't make that up. Wow. It was very skeptical in the beginning as well. I believe that they'd seen something. But I wasn't prepared to accept that it was anything supernatural or anything like that. So if we know now that they actually do visit. Yeah. And that there actually has been some sort of contact. And when that guy was describing you have physical bodies. He's saying if you have a crashed vehicle, sometimes you have a dead pilot.
3:35:28That was his way of describing it. Yeah. Holy shit, man. Yeah. That means they come and there's an actual alien. Yeah. So imagine urine's in bomb way and you're a kid just hanging out at school. And a fucking actual UFO lands and aliens get out. And you think they're thinking about taking you? Yeah. And that was kind of planted in her head by him, I felt. Right. I felt like that was kind of leading. Like he led her to say that. I feel like there's a way that you could have talked to her. First of all, you'd have to calm her down first. My strategy would be to get her very relaxed talking first.
3:36:01I don't know if they did that, but ask her a bunch of questions. What do you like to do? What's your favorite part of school? What's your favorite subject? You play any sports, you have any games you like? Kids love to talk about things they like to talk about. Right. And then go, I'm really sorry this happened to you. But can you tell me what happened? And then just let them talk. Let them talk. And you don't say, did you feel like it was trying to take you? Right. Don't plan. I think you, yeah, I think with a little kid, you have to say, so why was it evil? Could you, was it evil because you couldn't see their eyeball?
3:36:36Because their eyes were different. Right. You know, like what, what felt evil? Because like if you look into a fucking eagle's eyes, they look evil. Sure. Eagles look evil. Their eyes are looking at you like this. They're glaring. If an eagle was as big as you, it would be fucking terrifying. Dude, that would be the worst, but you could saddle him. But do you know they used to have a bird like that? It was called a terabird. It was like an enormous bird that lived in North America that was like, I think it was way bigger than like a human being. They were fucking huge, huge predatory birds that didn't fly.
3:37:10You ever heard of these things? Terabirds? Terabirds. Yeah. Google terabirds. There was these ancient birds that lived. Oh, fuck, I don't know how long ago, man, but they were fucking enormous. Look, there's some images of like what one looked like next. Yeah, the up top where it looked like no, no, no, up top, up top. That's the, that's how big they were. So you could have ridden one of these. Oh, yeah, fucking for sure. If it didn't eat your dick immediately, it would swallow you whole. You ever see like a fucking pelican swallow a seagull? Whole. Dude, that would be what it would be doing to a human.
3:37:47Just go up you down. That was a real animal, dude. That is how I would dress if I could. Imagine if you could fucking get one of those things to follow your lead. Look, he's got a bite in it, that thing in his mouth, a bridle. But the reality was, I think they were way before people. Like when do these things exist? Terabird. What an exist here. Size of these motherfuckers. Terabird. What an awesome name for a bird, too. Fucking cool. They range from three meters to 10 feet. What does it say? Cut it out. There's 66. They range from one to three meters. So three to 10 feet. So a big one was 10 feet tall.
3:38:25So 53 to, wow, 100 ,000 years ago. So they lived alongside human beings. Oh my god. Fuck that. Oh my god. No wonder why they're dead. We probably fucking slayed those. We got rid of them. There's even a slightly smaller version that dating to 18 ,096 ,000 years ago. Oh my god. Dude, imagine what those talons could do to you. Click on that one, the relatively small one. How big is that? Relatively small. Look at that dagger beak. What is that? Two, two point six feet. Two point six feet. Eight, twenty pounds. You've seen that shoe bill, right? You've seen that fucking creepy thing that lives in the Congo?
3:39:07No, man. I come here for all my biology because like you show me. Dude, shoe bills. Oh, yeah. I've seen that. There's a huge two. Shoobills are like four feet tall. There's a giant ass bird. And they clack their teeth together. They clack their bills. They're like, you never heard it? No. Get a bit. Fuck that. Get out of my heart.
3:39:34That's how they let you know they're coming. Look at those eyes. If you're a little kid and you see that eye, get out of a spaceship, you'd be like, what the fuck, man? Look at that thing. Look at that motherfucker. And they fuck fish up. They fuck fish up. There's a crazy video of a shoe bill. There it is. It's eaten a snakehead fish. So those snakehead fishes, those fish get out of the water and they walk on land to try to find more water. So you have this fucking dinosaur fish eaten by this dinosaur bird. You finally make it out of your lake and that fucking thing. And that thing. Dude, we're so lucky we got born as humans.
3:40:17And you're walking like this. Like Jesus Christ. Get me to the water. Get me to the fucking water. Nope. Nope. The clamps of death. Look at those. Look, you showed up. You've been promoting these birds. That's so meta. Yeah. Two thousand episodes, man. Two thousand episodes, my brother. And you've been there from the very beginning. We've had some of my very favorite fun podcasts. I think this is my favorite of all of them. I love you to do the best. I love you too, Joe. You're the best. Thank you so much. Thanks for doing this show. Thanks for letting me be on it. Please. And thank you for Duncan Trustle Family Hour.
3:40:53That's my favorite podcast. Oh, my brother. Thank you. I listen to your podcast all the time. No, don't tell me that. I get nervous. You have the best ads of all time. Thanks, dude. And when I need something fun, interesting, I go to your podcast all the time. It's amazing. Man. All the different episodes that we've done, all the different outfits. I think my favorite was when we were dressed up like clowns and they quoted us on Fox News. One of the greatest moments of my life. Ah. Well, they'll probably do that with this one with furries. Joe, can I plug one show? Yeah, please do. Coming up, Dania Beach Improv.
3:41:22You can find the ticket links at doncotressel .com. You, dude. You're the fucking man. I love you to death. I'm so glad. I'm so glad. You're out here, too. Oh, thanks for, thanks for luring us all out here, man. Like it's, we love Austin. Thank you. I love Austin. I love you too. There it is. Dania Beach Floral. That was, oh, shit. Oh my god. Oh, that's so weird, dude. Oh my god. That's nuts. That's nuts. How is that possible? I don't know, man, because I generated that with an AI. Wow, that's weird. And I'm not. Goodbye. Bye.
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