#2003 - Killer Mike

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32:05It's bold and sophisticated yet incredibly smooth Finishing long and deep. It's authentically American Representing uncompromising quality for the rugged the powerful and the passionate tap the banner to learn more or visit Buffalo trace distillery dot com That's buffalo trace distillery dot com distilled aged and bottled by buffalo trace distillery 90 proof franklin county Kentucky buffalo trace American family owned Independent and perfectly untamed. I think Ali said something to Mike in the corner before the fight I see if that's true. I'm pretty sure that's true. Mike is Ali was there Mike is one of the wisest warriors too like I People I don't know if it's because of the list or what people tend to They they try to qualify Mike as not as intelligent or they used to But his wisdom his then simplicity of the wisdom that he implies to especially young men I think is is value beyond beyond measure when Mike beyond measure Yeah, and also you know, yeah see some my shoes in the ring with them I mean that right there's heavy that right there's very heavy All of you probably told Larry my boy gonna fuck you up.

33:23Fuck come up. I like god Can imagine the inspiration when the greatest of all time comes up to you and you're in your young 20s And he wants you to fuck this guy up for him and you can it's all and you can because this is Mike Tyson back then It's all bro. Look at Larry. I Larry probably need one to beat at it late Larry he did though. That's the thing he did Larry asked for this fight Larry came back. Maybe you know, maybe you know, it's only six at the time probably yeah I'm saying yeah, I thought I don't think he got the big paydays that he deserved because I just don't think people liked him For and it is just a hundred percent because of the Ali thing if there was no Ali if he can't if he beat the guy who beat Ali Instead of beating Ali he would be another huge applauded heavyweight Yeah, but he is in boxing circles at least yeah, like people know boxing appreciate Larry Holmes He was awesome, but god damn this fight this fight was Mike when he just moved different than anybody ever Anybody that it was like jack dampsy times a hundred, you know, I'm saying It's like what he did with like the bobbing and weaving and the way we close the distance It was very unusual and you look at this you can't really prepare for all that movement I mean who the fucking move like that?

34:38Yeah, Gustavado loody's had it that kid custom auto found him when he was just 13 years old man and you know There's the first thing that he ever did that gave him like real joy and people loved him and people applauded him instead of hated them But god damn dude. He was so scary back then that hook from my father. It's something that Mike just nasty hook to the ribcage I mean he just kept coming at you man Cap coming at you, but the second round was where Larry started to get his jab off and it was very interesting Because you realized how I mean this was Larry You know, I don't remember what year this is maybe 90 or something like that.

35:16It's 38 years old The 88 okay. Yeah, he's 38 years old at the time and he's also, you know, no steroids back then Have anything like there's you do that peptides guys didn't really know how to recover like they know how to recover now When you're that age you were kind of done Yeah, he was had more soft soft around the midsection. You could see he just doesn't look like Larry Holmes when he was in his prime But you get to see a fire dog That jabs did that left jabs so he gets loose somewhere in in the round and it drops his hands Let's start look at that that right hand. They just planted on dude.

35:50Larry Holmes was so legit This is just too late for him. Yeah, we're just too late for him to be having this fight Looked That's funny. So no, this is it when he starts getting loose with his jab now No, that's the chaos on what we would you have before that? I just skipped it between the round. Oh, okay, so the third round or the fourth round. Yeah, this is it right there So this is it. This is it right here look at look how loose he gets with that jab He started getting loose and swinging his jab left and right look at that popping it out there. Look at that jab Dude Larry Holmes was a bad motherfucker.

36:28They just didn't fight in their primes. Yeah, they found him in his fucking prime Yeah, yeah, and you know even then even in their primes Mike would have probably got him You're micro special. He was it was different It was a lot of times because of the Duck and then Bob and we were only hitting the top of Mike's shoulders On the back you weren't hitting you weren't getting clean shots of the ears of the chick and he could take it The other thing about me. He's built like a bulldog to his chin was insane And his neck was insane because it's one of the reasons why a guy gets knocked down is the head rotates Sla and you can protect that with neck exercise.

37:04Yeah, so Mike was one of the first boxes eating pussy count as a yes a little bit I straight up straight up. So some reps you get caught you know your wife to tell you're a triton Yeah, put like a weight vest on your head. Yeah, yeah, get it Yeah, boom. Oh Yeah, but at this point Larry's right ago. He's all right. Let's just try to go. He's in trouble. Oh My goodness Oh with that right hand. Oh that left foot Larry is still up. Oh, oh this is the end This is the end then the right hook right after this boom right there That's yeah, Larry's like fuck that. It's been a day. It was just crazy to watch him get knocked out It's a temple shot too and he had fought so many big hitters before this early in his prime He fought Ernie shavers who many people say was the greatest puncher of all time was shavers as fast as Mike And this time because like didn't you know big hitters If you watch him a lot of them were mother fuckers, but Mike was fast Yeah, and big hits coming fast hurt a lot.

38:06You know have the seconds to count a step back a recovery Right like I don't think Mike had the one punch knockout power the George Foreman had but I think he had speed like a middleweight Yeah, that's what was crazy. Yeah, he was just swarming Yeah, so this is any shape. Yeah, and shavers was a bomber that dude had just wild power He wasn't the best boxer But he was a very good boxer, but it's fucking knockout power was tremendous and it's power is weird because if you look at the two of them Oh, look at that knockdown I mean, that's how hard shavers hit check this out dude I mean, this is boom.

38:44I mean my goodness. So Larry Holmes had a crazy chin The fact that he survived that back then and he couldn't survive Mike Yeah, but it's also 38 years old like for fighters. They don't want to believe it's over and it's over the end of your you got like nine good you like a world -class fighter for the mo like an average Some guys can stretch it out to 15 20 years some guys are it's amazing Like Jim Miller just had I think he first fought in UFC in 2005 Hopkins was was was mean Bernard Hopkins. Oh, he was the best of that. Yeah Because he was so technical. Yeah Well, that's why you when you see him fight Roy the first time.

39:24Yeah Roy beats him with just pure speed Yeah, let us just freak of nature that no one ever seen before and Hopkins wasn't quite at the level Hopkins eventually became Then they fought a second time when they were older Hopkins decision done pretty easily. Yeah, and it was a different thing because Hopkins had perfect defense. Yeah Everything was perfect. Yeah, there was no like nest unnecessary like speed movements or anything Everything was very tight and disciplined So what do you what do you think ultimately is that for fighters? I mean, maybe not not just entering fights just for fighting Do you think being controlled in discipline is better or just being crazy down and with speed about?

40:03I think the most important things technique that's above and beyond everything because someone with very good technique Will beat someone with freak athleticism if they don't have good technique. They'll leave holes. They'll get caught Yeah, technique is everything But if you have freak athleticism and technique Then you have a Michael Jordan like there's there's every now and then a John Jones comes along every now and then a could be Never gonna matter off comes along. Yeah, that has insane technique and freak like physical abilities and just super human discipline That's the most important.

40:36I think I realized Michael Jordan secret watching I don't know if he was just a show about him or his documentary But they show where his brother showed up for practice and was just fucking around playing playing with the team his brothers much shorter than him But that fade away jumper His brother wow the the quickness in the mood his brother and you could tell his brother had to adjust his game Because he's probably playing shorter dudes So he couldn't just shoot a jumper had to do a fade away. It looks like to me Mike took his brother's techniques And at his height and his and his and his and his because you could tell he studied them that Mike's game develop I want to out like it when I meet him that's So that's it.

41:14You see that did you just see that shit? How many times you see Mike do that to another player? What's this? Well Colby took that same technique and punish mother fuck with look at Larry I didn't know what that Larry slams like Dominique wow Damn that's his fucking brother. That's a great sparring partner. That's great Yeah, and you know your big brother will talk shit to you the whole race. Yes. Yeah, well the youngest guys are usually the toughest and family boy They beat up the most I got all gone doors as a kid I got locked in fucking closets and shit my my offers and cousins just had a bunch of fun.

41:55Yeah There's a bunch of MMA fighters that had older brothers that beat him up just beat the shit out and then they're like fuck you They learn how to fight and they're not scared to fight and because they fought every day of their life And that's a beautiful. I got a my daughter Mikey is 16 this year. I told her her sister and her I said we're gonna take some boxer classes this summer. Oh, I was like told you're strong as a bull You want a few fights. I don't want you just fighting because so fuck it You know, I'll have P doing a summer. So we're gonna take some boxing classes. That's a good exercise And it's good to release stress to yeah, that's what I worry with her I'm just like yeah, I just don't want to get a call you've beaten somebody Well, kids get aggressive.

42:34Yeah, and if they don't have control of that, it's not good when she grew up with our boys So it's that's about to have control just that's how boys solve problems right yeah You get mad you're going back here. I beat the shit out of each other then you're playing again So she grew up with her big brothers and cousins. So yeah, she never got acclimated to the we're just gonna fuss about this at all She was just like fuck it bitch. It's all That's great until someone shoots somebody. Yeah God bless the problem But with that with that with that say it. I think that on I think you know, we should probably be The people who are gun owners of shoes just go out as a family take a shooting day the Olympic Um, skete shooting thing is right around the corner from um from place that I own some buildings and stuff and I said man We got to go out and check that out.

43:17I've never checked it out. I've never skied shot before so It's uh, I think Fire on safety. It's like the most important thing. It is important and bleed classes Shots out the Doc dominant lander farming former um army guys the black guy So there's a place called there's a guy's called the black packers I'm in Atlanta shots out to my man coda and um king general down there They were in a bar met talking just about what blacks needed for survival skills Just skills that were kind of being lost with the old south kind of dying out So they put together a hiking club gun club that type stuff shots out to um, you know the um bad trees gun club and nagga um, but they are they introduced bleeding classes So before you even learn how to you know proficiently shoot They're like you need to learn how to stop in case of an accident Which I thought was just brilliant.

44:03So part of their learning gun culture is learning how to save yourself in case you accidentally shoot yourself With someone else So you guys look up the black packers You know and and and join them, you know people should join, you know where I'm from talking to people where I'm from join the Bashree's gun club join nagga Get some experience. So, you know, just let the news tell you what to do. Yeah, get outside walk around shoot shit Yeah, that's very good advice. Yeah Yeah, during the pandemic I think hunting went up radically because people started thinking like wait a minute Like food isn't guaranteed.

44:35No, I should probably at least know how to do this No, I think yeah, you don't want to figure that out while your family's hungry I got a call from DJ Swift outcast DJ cut master Swift and there's an old man that lives on the corner of the main street At least it's subdivision. Oh man. It's a beautiful garden that shit and we did we knew the old man You know eight deer and shit, but we didn't know that he was actively dressing animals in his yard But he called Swift like I got a deer over here. I don't know if deer had got hit or someone that shot and couldn't and it got in his yard He's just confided but Swift is like man.

45:05I'm out here with the old man. We fucking cut the deer Gun it right here and I'm like what the fuck So shot's out to Swift in the old G, right? You know, it's still going this is in the city of Atlanta. Oh wow Yeah, I had this gardener. He was really cool. He was from Mexico and he would call he was actually the gardener when I bought the house And I just hot the guy said hey, he's a great gardener and so I hired him to yeah and Jose would go back and forth to Mexico like he would say I go when you coming back he's like well, you know I got to make my way across, you know, so we'll see oh shit I'm like I don't even know what that means, but okay, so does he disappear?

45:43Oh, you're just pop back up Sometimes he would he was a fast -any guy. Okay, he would fight chickens and They had like you know 100 roosters in his dudes backyard and they would they had like the whole pit and they would gamble and and they were doing one of these things and they cooked a goat They killed the goat yeah cooked it yeah And the health department came after him because the neighbors are complaining why that they butchered an animal On their on their land on their on their their yard, but what are you supposed to do exactly and he was so confused and For him. He was like he was so confused.

46:17Yeah, he was like, but I did it all right there. It's all clean Yeah, I know where I know the animal wasn't sick. Yeah, like it's okay to buy me, but it's not okay to do it in New York That doesn't make sense. It doesn't make any sense I um, but I think it's a visual thing. I think like maybe the neighbors they should have closed their fucking curtains Yeah, I was there's a famous clip of me. I think I'm Dr. Boyce Watkins one of his own Um, yes, it's carfuses for black people to get better empowered and stuff and There was a lawyer who I have respect for he started some good stuff And he was essentially just telling people to count Pushback against the police and I'm just like you know for your 15 -year -old boy Your mission is to make it home So you just even if you get arrested shut the fuck up to your parents come to get you But don't don't do not push back against cops.

47:03That's not the thing to do It less his time for the revolution for real everybody's got to know this is the day it goes down And you know people are counting because it feels good to count it here the rhetoric But I'm just like yo, how many of you guys I live in his neighborhood I've lived in his neighborhood. I'm like how many of you guys actually like have a garden Right, I mean if you're gonna say how many people fish or hunt or know how to dress and kill your food And they got less and less hands. I'll say y 'all ain't ready to revolt shit like no disrespect anybody Few people got a set, but I'm like yo you deep the most revolutionary thing you can do is grow a tomato And some greens become selfish become self because that way you don't need Government or any or grocery stores anything, you know, I'm just like yo There's one house in a neighborhood there every say Two out of every five houses used to have gardens and literally chickens in the back There's one house in this one neighborhood.

47:52I see this man and woman they run their yard every day Meaning they get out Running job they have at least eight goats that I've counted Numerous chickens and shit and my wife and I drive down that street just to remind ourselves Motherfucker if ever goes down These are the people you want to knock on a door say hey, you know, I mean We like to live and join up with you know saying it every and whenever wait because they're really ready, you know, I mean they're really ready Well, that's what most people should strive for you should strive for water from a well Yeah, you should strive for some sort of an off -grid electricity system If shit goes down like if you have a generator at your house if the power goes off the generator can kick on Turns your fucking house back off.

48:36Yeah, man. That's a good thing to have very good thing Yeah, it's like it's a game changer especially in the summer. Yeah, but there's a lot of other things like you should learn how to Grow food. Yeah, you should learn how to cook you should learn how to make fires. Yeah, you should learn how to you know Blackpac and fish. Shelly. I follow the black packers you guys go to Instagram. They they're regular folks that were just regular folks that taught themselves My sister who grows the garden levy. I never when she was the wild when she like going to clubs and drinking this shit When she was young.

49:07I never thought she'd be the one that ended up like my grandmother my grandmother grew food like But I'm just like yo, man. He skills if you got him you got him no one can take him from you And you know where your food is coming from yeah, if you're growing all your own vegetables in your garden If you're all your chickens that you eat you know What they ate because you fed it to them I mean if you're you're eating like that. That's way better for you If you're slaughtering your own cattle if you make deals with the neighbors I give you a quarter or you give me some corn or workout together Yeah, like that's what people used to do that's a normal thing and there's still things out there like that like there's a West Georgia Farmers because I know I'm saying there was a West Georgia Formers collective clap my I won't tell people out there my focus is hyper local So if I say shit, you don't agree with that's fine if you're not in Atlanta or Georgia or Alabama some shit I'm gonna fuck but there's a there's a West Georgia farm's glad If where you can essentially get your food and your cows and stuff from them You can be that local you don't have to wonder whether chickens and cows and stuff are coming from well where is Where is The will Harris farms where white oak pastures that's in Georgia as well, right?

50:16How close is that to Atlanta? I have this dude on I watched them talk on television. They were they asking a question about Bill Gates They were asking about what's it you know? Is it bad that Bill Gates is acquiring all this farmland? It's a little scary what a fox news and so They brought him on and he talks very slow and deliberate yeah He's a regenerative farmer and they just the the news people like you got a hug and picked this up Yeah, so I was like I got to have this guy on and it was one of the most fascinating conversations I ever had It's way down south in there Alabama. Oh wow Also, that's pretty far from Atlanta.

50:56Is what it's called? I think how far is that from Atlanta like a drive? I'm sure Don't oh, yeah, that's not I mean it's about halfway in between but yeah, Dalton is it easy enough to get Dalton is where I worked my first UFC. Yeah, that's why it's Dalton Alabama That's when you have to still on the Chitlin circuit Yeah, the UFC we said flying in propeller plans. I look at some of those old UFC fights man We need to be like total midfnatch like a fucking sumo versus a midget damn dance. Yeah, sorry little person that shit would be yeah That's right. I gotta say little person. Yeah, yeah, I can't catch you know learning this but this disrespect me talk about short folks out there um What the fuck was I just gonna say you we were talking about UFC propellers flying in Chitlin circuit.

51:44Oh no white oak bastards White oak fascists, okay, if you can get your food from that guy I'll reach out if you guys got it over. Yeah. Yeah, there's I think they sell in all supermarkets and shit Oh, that's got a giant regenerative farm and what they do is like the they just rotate where everything goes You know the cattle they shit they eat the grass the shit is my great -grandmother taught me that No, it works my great -grandmother's talking about they only grow certain things for certain amount of time Yeah, then they move and that plot of land would be something else and then so yeah, she taught I was a little kid so I didn't really quite understand the concept but then I got an older.

52:19I was like oh, I get it Well, what he said is that you're recreating nature in a controlled environment. Yeah, that's kind of I'm paraphrasing But I think that's what he's saying like this is how it was supposed to go chickens eggs are supposed to be dark orange Yes, like that almost blood red orange. Yeah, cuz it's healthier. It's filled with more nutrients because they're out there eating bugs Yeah, I ever imagine my friends eggs aren't white They're thinking I was bullshit without cuz I went to we used to get sent like the Tuskegee Yeah, and the chickens down in your great -grandmother's farm.

52:50They weren't they weren't white And you's like they you have to come back to okay. It's like now eggs aren't white. Yeah, they're not white That pale yellow of most eggs. Yeah chicken. It's malnourished probably And you watch a dark orange one man. That's what even the yolk is orange. Yeah, it's more orange and it they taste different Yeah, yeah, chickens are ruthless motherfuckers man Man when that when you hear people say chickens fighting like man you if you're ever like in the deep south similar In places in Mexico cock fights still exists not that I've been to any for federal agents out there but um when you're young you get to see roosters and chickens fight if you go on a farm You get to see those motherfuckers go they get their nasty and they don't play and they'll come at kids You know, I mean that they don't they don't give a shit they'll go for it And you know it gets crazy when humans get it because they put razors on that fucking yeah shit and it gets ugly But just to watch too Male anything in nature stints to To at some point need to prove itself to another male But it's interesting watching you always think of chickens.

53:48It's kind of chilling laying eggs But those are the gals those guys get fucking you don't think of chickens like that when you have them No, because when you have them you see how mean they are to each other and then when you see what happens when they see a mouse Whoo, I've never said of see a mouse they go crazy. Oh my god Oh my god, it's crazy shit. I've never seen they they they run it out my So the speed you didn't know they could move yeah, and they just all try to tear it out of each other's mouth Wow, yeah, they tore it apart like instantaneous. That's like it crazy crazy The there's a video there's a bunch of videos of like a cat like spine on a mouse Yeah, and this chicken comes running in and snatches the mouse fucking that fucks it up right in front of the cat You never seen this you need to see this because most people have a distorted idea what a chicken is The those motherfuckers are little dinosaurs.

54:35Yeah, they just conserve energy for the most part for the most part So look the cats playing with the mouse. It's just fucking with the mouse right watch this chicken coming and storm the castle As soon as the chicken sees that mouse This is the same video So the cat still playing with the cats just had okay, this is where I've seen it before so the cats just like oh I'm having a good time this chicken is like what oh shit Fucking thing oh shit. Yeah, look at it. Look at the tear it apart you fuck you. Oh wow Bro tears in a part is tears in a part That's it's they love mice and so I think it's their favorite thing to eat I've never seen a react like that before wow the way they went after that mouse You sure the frog eating Was that you yes, is that insane check this out look at this look at this video So People days ago this is crazy bro.

55:34This is wild look at the mouse holding on like no bro don't eat me last Oh, it's a wrap. It's a rat bro that he just eats him That's not the one that I post oh, so there's a bunch of them so it's a Asian bullfrog Live feeding these imagine the hell that these rats live under They're just trying to figure it out and there's no answer there's no answer to this yeah, and you're in this thing Your food with a monster a giant mouth monster that can swallow you in one bite. Yeah, it's a wrap and there's a camera on you So the end of your life gets mocked on a stupid podcast Look at this motherfucker keep it going I can toss me a tip the box of tissues you got over there.

56:19Oh my god Look at this here it goes. Look at this watch it watch me do It's a wrap, but how crazy is it the way he stuffs it in his mouth with his hands? It's so disturbing Just give me give me give me I mean that's like a cartoonish animal. It's the fingers It's the fingers and what's crazy is you tend to think that animal soft because it's round But it's a lot of round shit that you would call fat that a fucking kiss it It's the hippopotamus effect looking at stuffing the the tail in his mouth Spaghetti and all the other mice are like no bro not me next He's just swallowing it all he does is swallow it that for rat is just stuck inside his guts Being digested how many rats chew through the guts That's pretty tough the New York City rats are amazingly tough you guys up New York City got a Spent their size of cats actually.

57:13I think they could I think they could I'm gonna give people this To black people who call other black people coons isn't insult if you spent any time in like The South you know raccoons actually tough motherfucker tough and smart brilliant and will attack a little fingers Yeah, yeah, they're not very afraid of anything so black people we got to come up with a new word to insult each other because um Raccoons are fucking warriors, bro, and they're not like like you should probably just call each other possums the raccoons fuck Yeah, they all up all the time fuck them up We got told a story from this old LA gang dude Apparently a dude was literally taking a raccoon around a dog fights winning dog fights with the huge fucking raccoon Oh my god when he told us that me and my brother G Davis, man Shout out to Jarrah cells Atlanta man on the internet.

58:00I promise cuz people think I'm bullshit hit Jarrah cells Atlanta DM an ax But God told us about this shit this motherfucker was taking raccoons a dog fight Winning thousands of dollars. Oh my god Yeah, raccoons a raccoon yeah, raccoons I don't know if they waited but the dude the way he was describing the South like I've seen big raccoons like I I saw raccoon once she and I Went out to a dinner and when I saw the motherfucker and then one or two others popped up. I'm just like We'll just go around the other side of the world. I don't feel like fucking fighting not interested in having a raccoon run up on me Yeah, they might be rabbit, you know, I mean I'm just a blow gun once at a carnival.

58:41Yeah, because I had raccoons that were fucking on my trash When I was living in New Rochelle, New York got you and I put the blow gun out the window and wait for the raccoons look at his mother fucker Jesus Christ he jumps down this dog It's not not afraid of it at all not afraid of it all should be able to destroy it seems like Well, it's a little like a little badger man. Yeah, man. They're like a badger in a lot of ways look at his fight stance Yeah, I mean he's prepared to stay bad. I Mean that's a ferocious little animal. Yeah, and when it's a bunch of them You know what it's like it's like an effeminate badger You know, you know, I'm saying like the posturing of it like a badger's gay cousin that can fight like fuck Cuz and he does ballet, but Man, I that's shout out.

59:34Let me shout out. There's a club. My daughter goes to club now My mom actually went just a gay club on what was Simpson Road called a mark with and it was where gay black kids You know kid poor working class kids have went for just you know dozens and dozens like decades, right? But I always tell people that you know that just assume you could fuck with the gay Kim school just like No, no, that's a man. That's a guy man. He can he'll beat your fucking ass like Yeah, no, don't say don't don't let it fool you So those kids at the mark with that have been partying since my mom was partying on my daughter party that Don't kids are prepared to defend themselves.

1:00:07No, you know all that bully and shit never fluent school. It's also stupid Yeah, at this point in time you gotta realize it's something you're born with yeah, and there's nothing wrong with it So what's the problem because it's been the problem in the past? What's the granddad about it? I was a kid and he was he was like Hey, people are always been here like he's away. I remember him telling me say what did he say? He said we we knew Loretta was gay Who didn't I was a tutti fruity good booty It was hilarious to me, but I was just my grandfather just it was just like what the fuck are you talking about like and that's what They're not two gay uncles God bless me with two dads and both of their youngest brothers regained me and and my uncle vent And God bless my uncle Carlton was some of the biggest influences in my life terms of art and culture and encouraging me to do it I'm sorry, they were young that's all and they could also fight Mmm, your fucking ass is off my uncle vent Lord knows we had some battles We put a hole in my grandmother's wall and she made us fix it And that's not realized like a fucking tin your kid and a and a gay boy probably aren't as good as fix in this wall But we had to we had to drive we had she made us do the do the drywall and shit and we didn't fight inside anymore We just took our fights outside, but I love my uncle to say he's married to Lee shot South Monkville vending mockingly one of the worst knockouts in the history of boxing was a gay man who was being taunted By his opponent Wow, and he kept calling him a fairy and saying all these things about him and it was Benny Perret Benny Perret and Emil Griffith.

1:01:37Yeah, and Emil Griffith beat him to death. He killed him beat him to death and it's it's a horrific beating And it's like and Emil Griffith was a champion, too Yeah, let me see if you find that you got that a pretty sure that was a title fight, but Emil Griffith who's just a wicked boxer he got in the corner and He started beating him Where he was like trapped by his punches like he was hitting him so hard that he was like literally keeping him in place To take more punches with the force of the past like lifting him up like here comes Here boom boom boom. Oh So now he's got him in the corner Oh and watch these right hands.

1:02:24He's like literally keeping him up boom again You see the sweat come on here is here it is so literally like the punches look at the head going back. Oh I mean, I mean that's it and he died Wow, so he slumps and he's gone Wow And that's the very rare Like death in ring Situation or someone literally beat someone to death. Yeah, you got it. You got to be careful of the buttons you push with people You got to be careful. Yeah, I mean, he probably would have tried to do that to him anyway realistic way really the boxer They're boxing. Yeah, but yeah, I've seen some back off. Yeah, the referee is to come people Holding him up though.

1:03:07That's what I'm saying like you literally saw him. Yeah, yeah Most boxes after they know they got in some boxes even looking to ref like stop this shit But he wasn't he didn't want to stop he beat I do the death. Yeah, he beat and he didn't commit suicide after no He didn't I don't know I read about the fact to them. I read about the About the the ref that on that there was another box that died during but the ref that committed suicide After it wrote him so hard. Oh, I forget forget because people were saying that he was responsible Or he probably just felt you know, no, I'm sure no That's a very hard job.

1:03:41The referee's job is very hard because you know you hate it no matter what happened Right, and you make an exploit second judgments and you could get it wrong if you get it wrong It happens great referees get it right for the man seen he do go Kim fight. That's what it was the ref that killed This else Your ability to research on the spot is amazing The goat yeah, could we get you to help win arguments for husband? Why can we make that shit happen? Check for me, but I'll tell you something Jamie will pull up some articles to disagree with your opinion The facts of the facts yeah the facts the bow sometimes I know sometimes you gotta dig in Sometimes you gotta dig in and go hey who says these are the facts.

1:04:21Yeah, this is true who wrote that what what is Politifact what is that? Like who is who's the fact checker? Are they biased? There's someone sent me a chat GPT Where chat GPT was like they had arguments of fact checkers versus chat GPT and chat GPT was like poking Logical holes in the factor. Yeah, I mean that is gonna be a weird thing when we have AI That is everywhere and people are throwing all kinds of questions into it AI is beatable I'm gonna tell people that they did some type of thing when my album was finished I'm that essentially scams through the songs looks for imperfections and things that might have Double to triple the nubics and shit Um, high and holy on my record was it couldn't do anything with it and that's what I realized the thing that counterbalance is AI is soul That's that's that's no matter like like no matter what we make to mimic us There's something that's in us.

1:05:18Yeah, that that is unmemicable. There's something that uh and it's beyond intelligence It's begun cuz it's a AI shows as you can replicate intelligence to a degree, you know But there's there's there's something in human beings that is some people call divine some people call spirit something But it's something and when my salt when I my manager called me will shots out the will active management He said motherfucker, you know, I mean, I know he starts it off with motherfucker It's gonna be some good news, you know, I mean or unless he says motherfucker and it's that's what I know oh shit We're in trouble, but he hit me and told me that I'm just like oh shit.

1:05:49We defeated a lot Yeah, you know one song one album we defeated it. That's interesting That's why Michael's gonna what marching to the fucking Grammys and walk off with Oh The AI thing is so weird because they had that Drake song that apparently was super popular. Yeah, there was an AI song They didn't work for me so I can uh, so I sound drizzy the thing about Someone's music is that especially if you know that someone created it You've got this psychic bond with that person while you're listening to their shit If I know it's a person who's sitting down right then oh my He is I'm in it. I'm in it with you and if that's not the case if it's just music It does it's not as good.

1:06:32Well, yeah, that's the difference between a jangle and music like jangles Everyone has a jangle. They know it's cerebral almost, you know, I mean it's a jangle But there's something about music. There's a feeling you sitting there fucking listening to it's a drug Yeah, it is music music is drug. If you are doing cardio and a great song comes on all the sudden you have energy Yeah, what the fuck is that yeah, that's crazy. That's real. That's real. It's really it's like It's like if you could take a shot and energy boost shot when you're doing the lift you go like god damn it Feel like shit and then whatever it is that comes on all of a sudden you're like whoa Shots out to Al man who's helped me get off some weight out out of Clayboard fit effects in Atlanta shots out to Al because All right, we'll just tell him days like this motherfucker doesn't want to be here And he'll just throw jam from like the 70s and 80s and shit gap band Commodore shit like that And I was like I see why you motherfuckers were advantage beach lifting like that y 'all listen to this shit Looking at a bunch of chicks, you know what I'm saying like of course you can get to know songs with seven minutes long Yeah, so I'm complaining and all of a sudden a seven minute song comes on and then before you know it It's time to get off, you know, it was the greatest on the exercise bike Want to quit song comes on fires you up what voodoo child slightly turn shut the fuck up slight return.

1:07:45Okay, that one I'm gonna try that good just a guitar Oh my god, you're also you're back in 1968, you know, you're like holy shit I like was that like zeppelin one for for for for getting me through Zeppelin one is zeppelin one is great too. Yeah, I think voodoo child was the the Is my favorite showcase of what Hendrix could do yeah, like the sound was so distinctive It's so different than anybody else's guitar It was like whatever he was doing was just Eric Clapton said he saw me wanted to quit playing guitar. Yeah, I heard that for what the fuck man And it's my first playing upside down right?

1:08:25He's a left Two -hour crew sampled this too, which was dope as fuck shots out don't go loop You ever heard voodoo problems 99 problems mixed with this no, I got it. It's amazing. They mixed the J with it. Yes Shots out the iced tea you originally had the night out problems. Oh gee. Okay, you're tired. This comes on. Hey You're right Yeah, you're gonna make it through I just let you go Oh Joe is in here tweaking Joe is about to make me do push -ups and telling you that's what you need you need that juice that inspiration It brings us back to haters. Yeah, they couldn't get inspiration from people to get you get juice Yo shout -out to that lady Who's Emmy nominated that hates me god bless?

1:09:26God bless your soul woman. I had never thought about winning an Emmy in my life But because you hated on me when I got and she hates me for the most ridiculous reason god bless her soul She hates me just because I'm not a Democrat dick do boy, you know, they mean like like I've had Democrats I like and I push for them especially locally, but I'm sorry late. I can't be a do boy and god bless me to fuck around and get rich I really I don't take money from any politicians a political party So if you see me stand next to someone's cuz I really believe um and if they don't convince me to believe I'm not gonna stand next to him right She wanted me to stand next to somebody.

1:10:00I'm like, you know, sorry lady. I've had some conversation with her You know, I've just I've tried my best, but I'm not hating but just saying my thing but this chick was just like I'm gonna use my platform to and I'm like you don't really have a platform. Yeah, but she in her bio She's an Emmy nominated actress. Hmm man, winning that Emmy sure felt good I just I've locked her but I'm sure someone is told her but I'm just like Holding it. I hope she sees the picture like yeah, thank god for your hate lady because it made me care I went to the I went to the stair amounties and walked away with a trophy Congratulations.

1:10:31Yeah, thank you. And to her there was a study that was done recently about left wing authoritarianism and the way certain people behave and that it's just It's like a bunch of different psychological conditions that are they're Almost indistinguishable. Yeah from like You know like horrible narcissism horrible Like psychotic behavior like see if you can find it what what their conclusions were But at the fringes when people what what happens is when you have groups That are ideal ideological groups whether it's the left or the right. Yeah You're gonna get people that just join that group that are absolutely insane.

1:11:11Yeah, and if you don't call it out Then you have a giant problem because people are gonna associate you with whatever the worst aspects of your yeah Like right wing proud boys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the experts somehow overlooked the Theoritarians on the left many psychologists wrongly assume that coercive attitudes exist only among conservatives of course It's a human characteristic. I did a speech for fire for the organization fire And I miss said I'm sorry the brown shirts of Italy, but I'm when I met with the brown shirts with Germany that As the as the left as you accomplish more power politically Don't use it as a bludgeon in the saying way you've perceived it to be used against you right that you have to you have to rule quote unquote in a in a in a in a more fair and equitable way You can't let your fair and in equitable thoughts become totalitarian Yeah, you also can't give in to this crazy instinct that we all humans have to be tribal yes, and I am a dammit crowd I'm a lifelong blue no matter who yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's not why it's both.

1:12:14Yeah, it's both sides But we tell like I grew up fortunate enough to grow up in a household where my grandmother was SCLC member had from Tuskegee Had been a part born in 1932 at Benaparte civil rights stuff my grandfather So my grandmother grew up on a farm could go to school. They weren't wealthy But they had food they had sustenance they had education my grandfather grew up working a saw meal at eight years old Because his father abandoned his family. He had to feed his mother's and sister His mentality was much more libertarian I would say his fat mentality was if God gave you an appetite and a mind to build a fish and rod You should be able to catch fish and my grandmother was like you shouldn't complain about having about fishing license Because the game warden has to make sure things are legit and somebody's to clean up the park So I got a chance to see these wonderful Political arguments between these two people that loved each other You know my grandmother college educated warm and my grandfather drove a truck and hauled moonshine and gabbled You know what I mean?

1:13:10He married this godfiring woman. He never I never saw him walking the church But they had these great debates that showed me that there are no absolutes That they're going to be something from each side that makes sense yeah to run a good household And they kind of they I watch them just do it right, you know what I'm saying and I just I'm glad I saw that because I don't feel married to any Ideology that's beautiful. That's important. Shots out the bed in willy God bless the dead man Yeah getting attached to ideologies is always a bad idea Particularly when you do we with human beings have in America have two choices.

1:13:45Yeah, you have two choices Well left in the right and like and people just like they adhere they adhere to whatever this side is doing because they want them to win And then you have some weird problematic figures like Trump who comes along Yeah, and like the there's a lot of never -trump or Republicans. Yeah, I don't know what to do But I say in this crazy as country pay attention to the people who have No chance of winning sometimes because they're gonna they're gonna be some truth toll like no matter what you feel about Trump There was a moment in that debate shepale talks about it When Trump said of course these loopholes exist they exist he was talking to Hillary.

1:14:16Yeah, like a hell yeah Vanja the loophole yeah, because they also exist for the people who are doing in your campaign I was like yeah finally Yes a member of the oligarchy class say as yeah motherfucker. We're cheating Yeah, and I was just like I was like that at that point American should have said hard reset Like they literally should have said pre -eizer how hard we said we're gonna We're gonna reform all this shit the money's gonna work different federal none of us said a goddamn thing And you know why because because we're all Complacinate in this uncompast where all the company in this in this grand scheme that's fucking us over And then and and and you don't have an educated Constituency a proletariat.

1:14:57It's all just going to counter reform So like doing this election people like who are you supporting? I was like I don't give a fuck nationally I give a fuck to Cornell West is in the race because I'm interested to see what he's gonna say Kennedy I'm interested just to hear you know, whatever crazy shit people think he's Whoever else is running I'm just interested because the two parties we know we got but there are all these little voices that pop up That little grains are true that's there no chance of winning in some cases But let me just take a grain of what you're saying and in that way I'll know what to take back to till the party that wins and say hey, what about this?

1:15:30Mm -hmm What why do we have money for this but we don't have money for this you know like Sanders People told me like Mike your business guy you like money Sanders even said hey, I think you're going to be a billionaire. I'm a taxes shit out of you too We were laughing and joking backstage at the Amazon worker strike that we were both supporting but My thing is I don't want to pay the government more taxes But if I got to pay more taxes Let me pay With the guy's plan who's going to educate kids and trades and scholarship for free Because that way I'm making a 20 year investment So to my 16 year old daughter when she's 36 has a much better country full of educated kids Versus I bought a lot I bought more missiles.

1:16:08You know, I'm saying yes. Yes. Yeah, that's possible But if you don't put them in now I am a millionaire. I'm going to do my best to protect my fucking money. Yeah, because I wasn't born a millionaire You know, I mean I was born just a working cash black idiot naim Michael. Yeah You know, I mean and Michael had to Michael never like working at six flags or auto zone or UPS So once Michael fucked around and figured out a single dance and makes money Michael wants to save Yeah, more of his money than spend you know if you had ultimate faith that the government was gonna do It's best to utilize that money for the greater good of the community You would happily give your money happily that's the problem with when you know you're saying they have to give their share Even if they do Even if they do where's it going?

1:16:56Yeah, how did we come up with so much money for this Ukraine war But we've never had any money for all the problems that exist in inner cities and infrastructure and and these crime -ridden gang -ridden spots That have been there forever We have this guy this police officer on once yeah from Baltimore And he was saying that they found an old police docket It's like a record of all the old arrests from like the 1970s I think it was And he said he realized it was the same crimes in the same place. Yeah, and he felt totally useless. Yeah He was like what the fuck? Because really you're just zookeepers at that point you just yeah Yeah, you're not we're not trying to fix the problems at all But yet how many billions and trillions and what where's this fucking coming from and they said oh there's a hidden tax It's inflation.

1:17:45Yeah, and we're making profits off the problems too with Reagan and props to take private The the making prisons private yeah with dad dad is an evil because once they put a private prison saying a small south Georgia town They have to guarantee 70 % occupants Oh my god, how the fuck do you guarantee occupancy? How the fuck did you die? You know in prison? Yeah The goals should be to have the least amount of prisons in the world You know we have the worst and and and and and seems the most you know all these sedic was here And I love a brilliant brother He's one of our stories of all time and he was explaining the system that you get put in a place That's in a small town where everybody in the town works in this prison And then you have generations like if you get in an argument with this person He's like their brothers on the next shift and then their father is the one who runs the whole cell block And then they're they're you know, it's like you can't get away Everybody works there and they run you and they could do whatever the fuck they want to And they can say you got in a fight.

1:18:47Yeah, they could they could open up your cage. They could beat you to death and you have to exist in that people got angry that I met with um That I met with our governor and I have a relationship with them You know and thankful for that because I've seen some good things come out of my relationship with them I'll tell people you know regardless of how we felt who won elections There's a judge her name chief judge osha Jackson. She's in the cab counting We've known each other since we were eleven went to school She did not have an easy life was damn their homeless her last two years of high school worked her ass off with the college in Buffalo Law school came down Um became a judge and she saw Kids coming through there were just like the kids she had with the school with they were you know Made a made a fucked up mistake or whatever.

1:19:29Yeah, she said okay. I'm gonna give you a year I'm gonna give you one year to turn your shit around to get your diploma get your gd Let's get your work in and she had me come speak to like one of her first graduating classes and shit I can graduate them in Her program works so well that not only did it help to reduce an en recidivism That another woman from juvenile court named miss Ali ended up getting appointed. So it's a black woman judge who's a democrat There's another black democratic woman who's in juvenile in in a juvenile justice system and and My she worked with my mentor Brad boy. He was a white prosecutor in judge through his career Brad retires I meet miss Ali we become friends the Current governor Brian Kim points miss Ali over the um Georgia public defend Castle and they're helping by emulating the same program So like when I tell people work hyper local what that one judge decided to do is a democratic woman Gets another democrat is a woman appointed by a white republican guy To help in that recidivism so that we don't just have a cycle an endless cycle of young black men coming in that out Not only did he do that But I got two homies that are serving life in jail and one calls and he converted to Islam and and south George They didn't always looked upon you know in a great way when when those generations that are running that are strong Southern Christian Baptist and I'm just like man my guys being treated badly like I You know, and I say I'm not gonna give you his name or doing it because I want the preferential I don't want you to be in a target to say hey, you just did this with rapper But he made sure that a call got made and that prison Tied up some with his treatment, you know, I mean and I think that People especially those who claim to be Christian like I've kind of come back To the philosophy's a Christianity on this album on the album Michael because my grandmother raised me to valet Christian I didn't understand I ran from it for years But when I start studying the character of Jesus whether you believe he was real or not The revolutionary love that he had for people that Deserved and didn't deserve it If I can achieve a measure of that in my lifetime.

1:21:32I've done well the last person he saved on earth Was a self -confessed thief being crucified by the state with him And I'm like if I can just keep that mentality not forget the prisoner, you know If I can do that then I'll be a step toward being a better human being You know, so sad But we also can't have situations where people profit off people being incarcerated. Yeah, and that's what we have in this country We're treated human beings like their batteries. Yeah, because they are batteries to generate money and we're not putting them out better You do not put them out better you look at other prisons from you know smaller European countries They're damn like college dorms and I'm not talking about just the amenities which are better But they put them out smarter.

1:22:14Yes, they put out carpenters They put out mechanics. I just watch some story where the prisoners have a fucking print shop They're printing up. They have a print shop with their printing stuff. Why aren't we doing that like in the cap county I think they had a GD program the cap county jail, but even in state prisons the young men mostly young black men that we're sending in a jail They have no skills. They've made stupid emotional decisions We'd have no psychotherapy for them. We have no trade skills for them virtually If we if we simply change that you change the construct of the towns that depend on the prison and you could be Be potentially creating people to build the towns versus Simply having prisoners that serve as batteries in the matrix of the seals and prison workers, you know Well, you can't have it profitable and it's got to somehow or another Rehabilitate and you've got to use all the tools that are available to rehabilitate.

1:23:09Yeah, and some of those tools are psychedelics Really, you think we should be giving our prisoners first. I want to give it a member DMA You yeah first of all that be way less likely to fuck each other up. Yeah, they're doing MDMA I really believe that I really believe that MDMA sessions like they're great for people to experience trauma and maps The the psychedelic organization is using them right now for people with PTSD a lot of soldiers who come back home Seen are thrown up. Yeah, they just they're horrified and they have a really hard time assimilating and MDMA's been particularly effective for them.

1:23:45What do you think about that doctor? He's a black doctor. He microdosis Opia's but he was on the breakfast clubs black doctor I was talking to him. I got to get back in contact with him I'll connect you would you could you put him over the program to do that in terms of prisoners like and I'm thinking about Georgia You well first of all he would be the most honest on the pharmacology. He's the most honest because He's got you know, he's He's a real professor at Columbia. Yeah, people tried to write them off Oh, yeah, they tried to write them off, but the thing is he's right. He's right and he was a straight -edge scientist until He um started studying them.

1:24:23Yeah, and then when he started studying them And he realized that the propaganda about whether it's addictive properties whatever It's mostly not true. Yeah, and even the side effects mostly not true and in their pure form There's great benefit to some of them and one of the things is heroin. He likes to sniff heroin. Yeah, that's something He microdoses. Yeah, and you know, he says it's just lovely. He goes I love it. It's a beautiful feeling And he's very healthy So he's not you know, he's he's thin and fit. I see him. He's not like a mess He's cognitively very sharp looks calm very calm very calm very calm And you can't argue with him about what these drugs are and do and he was one of the very first To highlight to me that crack cocaine and cocaine There's not a difference in the effect and so they have a difference in destructuring the law The only difference is your free -facing it.

1:25:15Yeah, it goes right to your head quicker It seems like from being a from being a former teenage dealer It seems like crack hits faster and last shorter. It's because you're hitting. Yeah, but because it's because it's free -sure smoke Okay, that's what I'm free -facing it versus snorning it. Yeah, all co -cotics are fucking assholes Like they get on coke and they get too happy like yeah, I mean, we're talking about a guy early easy You're fucking best friend because of Yeah, I said so yeah, yeah, all cocaine shit to that. But you have a free base. I would say it's a quicker Yeah, cuz it's it's just free -facing.

1:25:42Yeah, just free -facing cocaine Which I wrapped about on something for junkies on my album. I want people to know the album Michael I know and I'm not just not just a musician plug and shit This is really like the life of a kid who grew up and kind of didn't seem at all good and bad But I wrote that record because I know no other rapper would ever do it and something for junkies really was just saying have empathy sympathy and um Have love for people because all of us are addicts or something, but but that that I understand totally what you're saying in terms of that like this This is there there there is something to drugs past the propaganda.

1:26:15We've been fed since Reagan and you know Ronnie and Nancy Yeah, but we're also learning about them from people who haven't experienced them This is true your parents are telling you stay away from math. Well, this is gotta be something to math I'm trying to love it. They drive their truck for three days in a row and When I when I was a kid People would do a math and play pool a lot of gamblers really they would take hand fedamines I don't know if it was math in particular, but it was amphetamines Yeah, and that was like the big thing for playing pool they would play pool and they would gamble for like 20 hours in a row 30 hours in a row these motherfuckers would stay up for days until one guy broke And they would just be doing amphetamines so my cousin Jimmy We lost the schizophrenia.

1:26:56He's alive, but I say lost the schizophrenia because it's hard to if you anybody follows me on Twitter They see my Twitter having never changed to me with my arm around his lice -kin kid. That's my cousin Jimmy's closest thing. I had to a brother But he he gambled we all shot pool in school and you know petty gambled and shit But he was really good So I'd end up being with him sometimes just sitting for 20 hours while He we walk in he'd have 800 bucks by the end of the night he have 80 ,000 bucks What I'm saying? Cuz no bullshit But the end of the night is the next night because we'd be up for 20 fucking hours And then we need when he when he when he you know because he was never a drug user And I honestly think maybe us doing marijuana counter probably clicked his schizophrenia switch because his dad Was schizophrenic and it runs counter on his mom's side of the family to where we were we were related to the matriarchal But you remember a moment when you noticed that something was wrong Well my wife and sisters talked about it and my sisters at home my wife Mike loved him so much He just didn't want to see say everybody else saw it But I but we pulled up to a fucking zack species I said cuz of what you want to eat and I had just told him like I was like close your nails getting kind of long You need to get a you know, you know, you know manicure something like he just he was what they'd call a player like He you know he shot pool all the girls like them.

1:28:13He talked smooth. He was never no fighting a rough But I noticed like him kind of not keeping up his self in the same way So I know that but I just thought we was on the grind He's taking the grind too seriously. He need to you know It's my first years on the road promo and um, you know my wife said I saw it She says but you know you didn't you didn't want to see it because you loved them so much Yeah, and he got out the car. He told me what he wanted to eat He got out the car went to the bathroom. He never came back And I remember calling his mom like yo, I'm not gonna leave my cousin like if she was like just gone So his mother had even already noticed but his mother had went through that experience with his father So his mother knew what she knew she was coming.

1:28:52Yeah, and um, you know, it's it's um, you know Shots out man my cousin with mental illness and really good pool players Yeah, it got to be my cousin was amazing. Did we beat DMX out of eight grand DMX and his wow he got deep for five In the club bounce in Atlanta and these these former manager who's the who's the homie I was like I knew my cousin was gonna drag them. Deca play good pool to buy new my cousin Yeah, he played good with DMX play great pool, but I knew my cousin had him then I was like my cousin got him So cousin was Ben D and I'm just now say yo, getting on better your man And he's like now I want to get off like D.

1:29:28D. I was like you man don't even believe in you man Tell her man put a grand on you man. Oh, we left out. I'm being this man from like three grand My cousin VD for five we had a ball, man. We went down the street. It just just had a goddamn ball fucking around in the middle People don't know how fun pool gambling is always fun. It's so fun. It's so fun. It is social pool is so social pool is much more social than golf Can you actually talk shit while somebody shoot oh, yeah, yeah Yeah, and if you watch like guys play for big money people are quiet like a church. Yeah, watching guys like when I was When I was a kid there was two guys that were playing for $10 ,000 and I remember I couldn't believe it Yeah, I couldn't believe there's a giant crowd around there playing one pocket.

1:30:13Yeah, there was a giant crowd around the table I was like this is nuts. This is so much money. Yeah, everybody was just watching man. I've seen some I've seen some I've seen $100 ,000 move And because you you're sitting in here all night and it's like People it's like people to hear about the games Calls of start coming in just more cars that start showing up. Yeah I've been in there. I've been in crazy places with my cousin. I've been in gambling houses. I've been in Well, you know what I'm saying is my grandfather played tongue He was more of a gambling like my cousin my the middle of my family were Gabbard I never was I was I figured I could wrap that's about all I could lose your whole life Yeah gambling on pool because it's so addictive.

1:30:53Yeah, I know guys that were like really talented pool players Yes, I just realized I had a quit my friend Tommy. He's like a world -class pool player And when he was like 20 -winter's long. I gotta get out of this I've there was this dude that he was playing that was this old dude that they were they were battling it out Back and forth back and forth like grinded it out for 200 bucks And this old dude was missing teeth and he didn't have a fucking dollar in his pocket And he was like this killer old 40 -year -old pool players like I can't be this guy I'm not gonna be this guy. Yeah, I'm not gonna be like broke and fucking scratching for 200 bucks And not being able to pull it off.

1:31:31They were like neck and neck. Yeah of race to 11. It's like nine nine Yeah, yeah Gamma's just too stressful. It's very stressful, but it's also very addictive. Yeah, I'm not mad at it I'm just now I realized I hit the lotto I hit the lotto with my um Dr. Barnes already had who's the son of a lawyer of Barnes, O 'Reilly In the friend of the seal already who was my friend and introduced me to big boy and did that So I'm kryptonite but Barnes will tell me he said you and Celo have taken far bigger risks Because I knew if I go to medical school. I got great. I did up in a doctor He said you guys will live in off your fucking imagination And that's that's different so with gambling, you know those guys are fucking with skills So I see it, but I just I think it's a bigger gamble sometimes I just live off my imagination Your imagination is a gamble, but it's one that you can control Yeah, beautiful way.

1:32:19Yeah, whereas the gamble of pool is just it's a different fucking, you know Gamble of poker people that get really addicted to getting involved in big poker games. Yeah, I ain't got it I like to watch but I ain't got it in me golf people play golf for big money. Yeah big much You know talk shit. Yeah, that's what I say. You're your whole like future is rolling on a ball And you hope it goes into the pocket scaring your fuck because you just mortgage your house. Yeah, scary shit Yeah, people get wild, but it's also there's something and again pool holes. I think of the best example that it's a social location Yeah, people get together and it's predominantly men.

1:32:55Yeah, and it's just there's all just a lot of jokes And a lot of talking shit a lot of personalities and there's like a it's a great community center For men I look at barbershops the same women. I look at barbershops I opened my first barbershop just because I wanted to have a social center Southside of Atlanta, but I wanted to have something that didn't feel Divey wasn't drug heavy, you know that was just just a good place for moms to bring their boys to count a lot of you know So you got 70 what 70 % single parent Mother mother lead households in the black community barbershops are great because they give boys contacts with good decent men Who are you mentor like figures?

1:33:37So I opened my first one for kind of personal reasons, you know I'm saying I figured I'd make a little money or whatever and we've turned into a bigger brand Actually, we just got an investor to help us expand it into something bigger But I did it mainly, you know less about getting the haircut and selling product even though now we've developed product We sell a bunch of t -shirts. We need a Joe Rogan t -shirt We didn't do something cool, but um, I started them just as social centers and have realized Whether it was doing stuff with helping people get out the vote whether it was helping people getting more knowledge And men in particular about mental health awareness and stuff They are some of the most effective social centers in our community, you know I mean in terms of my community And I think just working class communities period I'm just a big fan of barbershops for the same reason that that pool halls right there Their places that guys can get together and it's safe to just talk.

1:34:26Yeah, just be guys Yeah, those are important. Yeah girls need them too. Yeah, I mean different animals Oh, yeah, and what I like about barbershops is you get that special kind of gal that comes in there that talks shit better than every man You know, so shout out to pool halls. Yeah, yeah, exactly At the swag shop man, we get some chicks come through there. What they they make everybody blush Yeah, and I love it. Yeah, no, we got some dope ass female barbers, too That's awesome Yeah, having a spot like that where guys can gather that's huge used to be like a corner bar for people But then you just create an alcoholics.

1:35:00Yeah, that's something to barbshop you come in you look rough You come out leaving good looking good. I want a Rogan shirt for real man I love to get your face. Okay, on a shirt. We get your fresh. Hey, man We you know, we give some money to charity and some whatever cool shit We can do what I but I love to get a Rogan shirt. Okay, I mean we got an outcast shirt coming So I love lie you. Thank you. Thank you very much. That's awesome. Yeah, so you're involved though I you're you're like one of the best guys in terms of diversifying your income. Yeah, you're very wise in terms like you in fact And you always encourage people You got to don't buy fucking back.

1:35:34Go buy a apartment building. Yeah, the people are paying you right. Yeah, it's gonna happen It's gonna get you like what I'm really telling people is just to shit my grandparents told me and I fucked up And I just didn't listen young enough, you know what I mean like I could have did just shit at 21 I could have did it at 26 27, but I kind of chased you know There's there's just something about drug dealers that's so appealing You know what I mean? You know, I mean there's something that makes you say god damn I wanted that 20 something but if you if you're lifting your timeline if happens soon or quick But if you just make some investments those investments will pay For the for the bullshit.

1:36:13So I want to dodge demon. The dodgy throughout their listening Like I that last that last demon that's coming in 17 like just get me on the fucking list, man You know what I mean? They're making. Oh, man. I don't think they're making it many They're only making a few. Yeah, only making a few But I'm gonna be a long time supporter of dodgy Hell catcher I bought them all But I love that you love muscle cars Give me any muscle car especially the fucking especially fucking himmies Um and any Germans to Dan Oh, man, I'm gonna go fast and I'm gonna fuck shit up But Joe's referred to like I wanted to buy fucking demon and my wife was like nah You wanted to buy an apartment building for this law.

1:36:55Mm -hmm. This is what you're gonna do But I just I learned that to do the types of rap to be free to say the things I wanted to say That I couldn't be dependent upon the record company saying no or yes And what gave me the true freedom was just taking more responsibility More responsibility from a financial standpoint and getting smarter about it And then going to get the right mentors you know like there's a guy named John Hope Bryant Who was the largest owner of single family houses that were for rent in the in the nation Didn't he didn't he sold his company to itself and um, you know cash out hundred and something million dollars And he you know, he is a direct mentor to me and T .I.

1:37:34Also Tony wrestler who owns the hawks is Tony's early 60s Doesn't come from money working class God of New York and has built the seven billion dollar fortune There's no fucking way when I'm sitting around with him. I'm not gonna ask so what do you think about this barbershop shit You know what I'm saying? There's no way I'm not going to To go on a pick from the people around me like I'll hit you in the middle of night not about money But just about other shit just to ask and you answered so always seek to counter no more Because it'll it'll grow you you know So what I learned and figured out was if I have other streams of income and tip is good about this too T .I.

1:38:06Was very good about this if I do that I can be more free to be whoever I want to be 100 % and that's that's it So that's it. That's it. That's it. So young men out there I encourage you always get a trade that way you don't have to depend on people people to call you I don't argue with my plumber my lawyer because I don't like cleaning up my own shit, right? So I'm never gonna argue with him date whatever they charge an hour is with the fuck I'm paying Um shots out the alley my plumber my lawyer, you know what I'm saying But I um, I just want people to know You know people out of people think oh man, he's he's a rapper He's rich.

1:38:38Of course. He's gonna say this shit. I didn't learn this Just from you know the John Hope Bryan sort of Tony wrestlers even I learned from my grandparents My grandparents when they were married my grandpa had a house my grandma had a house My grandpa's nice. I sell them my fucking house. We'll just rip that house out I'll buy RV and we'll take the kids on vacation every year Me and my sisters got a chance to travel and go on vacations regional vacations Alabama Fucking Florida Tennessee, but it expanded our mind state as such when our grandparents died We just sealed our homes my sisters live in their homes We kept the homes and I bought my daughter a house behind my sisters and put them in a truss.

1:39:11So our whole thing was Try to live a more magnified life of what our grandparents taught us Save and conserve have another stream of income besides your job Just simple shit like that and then you have like Joe said the fuck you money You don't have to be a slight away slave. You don't have to Big and borrow you know, you don't have to make poor choices because you want more money Yeah, sometimes people take a terrible job that just pays better and then they live in misery and unhappy terrible God bless bottles on I would have shot myself in the head If I had to do it, you know, yeah, I remember working at a gas station when the guy was like 45 years old Yeah, the grand national we thought it was the coolest guy ever because he had an 87 grand national.

1:39:51I bought one Oh, did you really? I sought out the man my man Ron. They're very valuable man. Ryan valuable Ron grew up his his grandpa was a major in Atlanta police department And he grew up few streets behind me younger than me But met Ron and after he moved out the neighborhood became fast friends, but he calls me what's the deal with these? Why do you like this? All right, so these come first of all Buick is a proper man today and in terms of Chevy and like Pontiac and Buick are like Fats your guys they wore jackets and shit right, but there was still muscle is a V6 87 when the gnx drops is faster than some porous and vitz is kicking fucking ass But yeah, yeah, the grand national in the tea types from 83 forward.

1:40:34They were just some kick ass affordable muscle cars They were discreet enough that you wouldn't know, but they were street enough They made you feel like a badass motherfucker So if you were going to work in one of these you weren't seeming like that store run this is my car Run calls me my man run calls me and says yo There's a guy down here who has the grand national for this price I told him he was selling it to you. He knocked the thousand dollars off your binders fucking car I'm taking it home today just send me the money to my handle man that well Since pro touring has been introduced you can upgrade these by just stuff to buy it handled like an 80s car It went fastest in a straight line, but now Rod is building mine over So we're getting another chassis on it.

1:41:18We're lowering it. We're uh, we're changing some specs on it to make him We actually got and this is going to make some Buick guys mad. So let me qualify We're taking the six cylinder out. We're having it sent to a specialist who bills dollars But I'm putting the hellcat motor in it Why would anybody get mad about that because Buick got his you mix in it. Yeah, yeah, Buick got a car And the Buick yeah, they're pretty suck it That's not Joe said that I did not say there's gonna be a lot of old white southern men let it go Okay, they're putting V8s and portions. They're taking a GM crate and put on L and the bottom.

1:41:51Yeah, it's a It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. Yeah, Rutledge would have one done man Rutledge is my fridge I love that. I love that. Shout out the Rutledge Jared Mike musto. Yeah, he's like all my car Mike musto man Mike is such a great human being. Yeah, I went back and forth them online and having out of the pleasure meeting them You gotta meet me. You gotta meet me. He's got so much enthusiasm for those cars and just so infectious man I was just a napa with him. He brought his wife out to my solo show I had out of nowhere out there, but I love Mike. I love Jared Sean Smith is a designer.

1:42:25He did those new cars for him. He designed those new cars for Kevin Kevin Hart Oh, yeah, Sean is an amazing guy. Let's have a hundred and fifty thousand cars. Yeah, he does He's got a new car. You want to have a great time looking at cars Sean who runs out of Tokyo As man he has a warehouse. I bought a 96 and power from his brother I made a shun just had some beautiful cars. Yeah, I watch his shows. Yeah, they did my car I have a 1969 Nova that Steve Stroke built for me and they just they just played it on Autotopia. I gotta check it out. I gotta check it out. It's a preposterous car because it's a 69 Yeah, I love muscle cars.

1:43:03Yeah, it's a 69 Nova, but it's got a completely independent suspension The side of the car now has the flares of a 69 Camaro So it's wider in the back. Yeah, the exhaust comes out that big giant rear Nova bumper The exhaust comes out of that. It's wild looking Coral works is building my 67 firebird and I'm looking forward to putting it up look at that. Yeah Man, Nova's people either love them or hate them They look like hogs to me, which is why I love them the snouts. If you hate that one move to China. Yeah, fuck off This is you hate that one. Look at that love the five star. I love the flaring Man, that thing how you go you got crazy did don't listen to the whole lab or I don't even go to get it tomorrow Oh, what yeah, it's delivered tomorrow.

1:43:53You go fuck around at least day a day. Oh I'm so excited. They took it for a drive. Wow, but yeah, Autotopia is a fucking great show. It is it is It's again the same thing. It's like I love when people love what I love like I love hearing people talk about something I have a passion for and they're infectious about it That's why I tell people to go find people who do not look like you are not from your ethnic cultural or religious background and make friends because you'll find that You have shit in common. Oh, yeah, you know, I mean and it helps to kind of break down some of the prejudices and and just you know Precacieved notions that we have you know, that's one cool thing about hobbies brings all you know What whatever it is even careers like comedy or music?

1:44:36Yeah, brinches brings people together Like you have this one thing that's more important than anything else in your life. Yeah, and you all share it. Yeah, yeah, we just we're just all Beautifully different and that's fucking important. Yeah, that's it's good. It is good. It is When it's a modus that's when shit gets weird. Yeah, no, I'm career not in order to raise Yeah, and aliens. Yeah, that's what I really worry about when people talk about alien Not even whether or not they're these creatures from other dimension. I'm worried that there are us in the future That's what I'm worried really I'm worried that that's the natural progression of the human animal I think that we went from these tiny little single -celled organisms to be these multi -cellular creatures to be Creatures that live in the wild the creatures that have evolved into cities and I think we're getting weaker and smaller I agree and if we start integrating technology into human biology That's what it's gonna look like giant heads spindly bodies everything's telekinesis.

1:45:38Yeah No, no need to talk anymore. Holy shit. That's what scares me Do you think I think this is a do over because I think we've done it again like when you look at okay Carving That's what you see you see some kind of big head of shit with a little Like maybe this is just a do over. I think they've been here before for sure. Yeah If they've been here at all they've been here before no, I think they've been here before yeah We fucked it up before they hit reset and now we're currently fucking up the do over Mm interesting. Yeah, I think more likely Earth is in a really bad place in terms of like asteroids We're in a it's a kind of shitty spot We're really lucky that we have Jupiter if Jupiter wasn't there we'd be doing it so big it's so big it's so much mass and so much gravity So what we have though is Windows of time where things are likely to happen yeah, and that window when when those things do happen Civilizations done yeah, so either you figure out how to get to a point where you can stop that where civilization can get to a point Where you can stop asteroidle impacts where where it can mitigate super volcanoes and figure out all the things that kill people off That's possible the civilization one day it tains that kind of power But maybe Maybe it's a long fucking road Maybe it's a long road maybe this sort of reset thing happens many many times.

1:46:58We're just super comfortable with this Stage of existence that we're in we still think the supermarket's always gonna be open We still think my weed dealers always there. I can call them shots after my last night I got weed last night. I walk up to the room by time I get to the room. I've lost the lead. Oh, no So I have to call them back. Oh, no, it brings me weed back at and there's a burger place that you are crazy about Which one golden tiger? That's it and he brought me a golden tiger burger. I only ate the meat and cheese though I didn't need you need the bread because I would have felt guilty.

1:47:31Yeah coming to you is like coming in my physical fitness problem I wouldn't know I would have I would have felt I would have felt ashamed in front of you having to eat in the bread Just cut that out. Well, I've been doing a lot better. I'm 47 now. I'm doing good. I'm happy. I had a Coca -Cola since December 31st, you know trying to cut sure I don't know sugar was in so many things It's in every day. It's in all the good shit Which is why which is why I've learned to just eat each or meet with mustard now shit like that Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have sauces a lot of sauces. Yeah, yeah exactly. Yeah, I just like steak with salt on it Just grill it.

1:48:07I like it black and um and I'll do a garlic butter. Yeah, sometimes do that. I got a um What is it called? Oh G? It's like pit master. Oh G. I shake that stuff on it It's like a little bit of pepper a little bit of garlic powder There's this guy named Brian who owned uh used to be a thing called um Beast crackling and um of course the worsens shit happens So I don't know what happened to be crackling but Brian is about to open another restaurant you come to the landing guy Let me take you okay, beautiful. He's a he's an amazing. He cooks meat no sauce needed Dots barbecue is another place that does a A brisket in Atlanta's very hard to get good brisket outside of Texas and the further each you go The worst it brisket gets because usually people serve you brisket and really see the prop roast right?

1:48:55I real brisket, but dots barbecue in Atlanta have two locations, but they got it. They got a great brisket So when you get in Atlanta, you just want to go to some meat restaurants. Let me take okay You know, and I don't know if you know, but this is one of my fake guys I don't want to even tell people But I know I can always get a table there in an L .A. Cheesebacca Oh, yeah, cheesebacca's fantastic. I love them and I almost wore it today, but I didn't want to lose it one of the waiters gave me a replica Braves world championship ring Big boy has a real one so it's pretty fucking close right brazier want to give me a real and I'll take it to But I but I've worn this ring and they got me in my they got me in shape The world the the 1996 Olympics glasses so when we go to chief Spocker and we order our waters and stuff They come in our own personal class.

1:49:42Oh, that's how long I've been eating at cheesebacca wow And that's connected to the Italian places Yeah, yeah, I forgot the name because I'm very good But that's where all the meat is prepped at the Italian place and then chief Spock is much smaller much more than look The other place that no other place I've eaten at once. I just forget the name but chief Spock I just because I like meats especially you know, yes Yeah, that's the name of it. Yeah, and then they also have a next to Austria Austria, Mocha They have a pizza place. That's fantastic pizza place. All it people and that shit be lit.

1:50:13Oh, he lit It's so good. I don't eat that shit anymore, but what I'd like to say is you still eat the meat though. Yeah, oh fuck you So if you do if you do eat a little bread and what made me love them Is they make a bone marrow pie That tastes look the old chef was Ryan, but even now the new guys do a hell of a job It tastes exactly like my grandmother's bone marrow pie So for guys who don't know if folks don't know out there bone marrow my grandmother told me it's healthy as shit for you She's made us eat it as a kid especially when it went in the winter And she don't want you to get calls and stuff, but there's stuff eat the marrow you just pick the marrow out the bones and man Oh my gosh, it's amazing.

1:50:50I love bone marrow. Yeah, they're too so good for you. It's like you just slobbing it You just your body is like yeah, yeah, yeah There's some foods your body's like oh, give me that yeah, give me that you but I know people don't like the taste of liver You know, like the texture bone I eat liver my body's like give me that so it's who's cooking it for me what I realized it Betty Clutz knew what the fuck she was doing my grandpa gets sick She would do shit like put onions on his feet plastic bags socks on now I'm seeing like people charge people to tell them that and cop hunting shit like that.

1:51:26Yeah apparently onions Because the biggest poison on your feet that whatever healing properties they have they go right into your body bloodstream from your feet and they go right to where right to what needs to be here. Yeah, I mean just look at I'm saying I mean yeah, so my grandma used to do some my grandpa because yeah, but the the liver she would fry her liver Which is why I like it fried but she would have us eat liver at different and it was like different foods for different seasons When when she thought it was you could get sick this season we were we knew it was gonna be more liver. Yeah, you know, so Shots out the baddie man.

1:51:57She she knew what the fuck she was doing. Yeah, and she my grandmother was also a proponent for Working in your yard and walking and shit she they said as a girl She didn't like kitchen duties which made me knew she loved the fucking shit out of me She fed the shit out of my chubby ass, right? But she would prefer working in the fields, you know, I mean and they say she was just like a tomboy about it So to the day she died she worked in our own yard did her hedges and shit like that her my grandpa would do it together sometimes But she was just she was she lived that she lived a healthier lifestyle and I understood it this time because She never stopped her body from moving.

1:52:33Yeah, she didn't eat the same thing all year There would be times where certain things she would cut out of her diet. She was just strictly eat You know like say greens for like a week she's due to greens to kind of flush out of the system Then she'd come back to me, saying she had a lot of game meat again because my grandpa caught fish, huh? And so I'm trying as I'm getting older what I'm understands what I'm paying people to teach me They kind of gave me for free. So I'm trying to do more that like my grandfather with you with the help His shit was man Get him some deer meat of some fish. He wasn't really concerned We're going to he'd go to a butcher, but he he didn't like going to grocery stores.

1:53:06He wasn't being Well the best meat that you could ever get is game meat. Yeah, it's the best meat for you So rich and protein doesn't have a lot of fat though So if you're gonna eat only meat you've got to eat something else with that Yeah, it's really bacon or I'll take beef talo and things like that. I like the the rib eye the um what is it the cowboy rib eye Because it has it has it's more marbleized. Yeah, yeah, that's You could really it really yeah, I haven't even able to finish one a long time though I'd usually get a half and then I'll do the other half at some point the light of the next day It's he's harder to get harder to get Jordan Peterson to eat the whole goddamn thing.

1:53:43I've never seen a thing like it He yeah, he said it's health got better when he went carnivore I saw much better. Yeah, the thing that really gets you is the the mental focus and Why need that so I might do that the next two weeks while we're hard for tour it make your body essentially is running on ketones Yeah, it's it's it creates Some glucose of its own through gluconeogenesis, but apparently that actually we were reading something about it That actually might aid in your body's ability to process ketosis It's more efficient at doing it that way, but it's not the best for workouts. I gotta say that That it does I do feel like a little laggy For some of my workouts like little terms of the carnivore diet.

1:54:23Yeah, like I feel like just there's just there's a little That I feel like I'm missing got to think it's my body adapting to not having carbohydrates So I think that like a little bit of carbohydrates before workouts. It's probably advisable So what's a little like the answer is it's like fruit of berries fruits the best got fruit is amazing because it's like watermelon is an amazing Oh, it's amazing shana gets water I can't say because they feel you yeah, they make it they make it they they hydrate you and they and man It they're just like any time a day you can just wear it cold It's the most delicious thing ever yeah if they were very like really rare they'd be so valuable Yeah, like if you get it you don't gonna have watermelon to like whoa black folks That's another black people thing when you people like insult people with a white that's not an insult people call me cool It's not an insult because I know raccoons will fucking murder your dog And when you make watermelon jokes, I don't give a shit because watermelon is the and yellow you yellow me watermelon Yeah, so I'm grandpa with yes, man, those are they're actually sweeter.

1:55:24Yeah, oh, I like honeydews. I like all that I hate the honeydewy catalogs. Yeah, camo. Oh my god. Have you ever eaten a great like a musk and down or scuffing down But so they're called musk and diet musk and dimes or scuffing dives here They're great their grows in the southeast you can eat so many of your mouth starts itching and they're so good You don't give a fuck you keep eating them. Yeah, my grandmother would make you see them there they go. Yep, the musk Yeah, my grandmother would make Wines out of them, but as kids you pop the they're they got a tougher skin than most grapes You pop them off and you you eat the middle one, but they're super sweet just naturally sweet and they're great out I'll actually when musk and down season comes around I'll get some and just ship some out to you But they're absolutely get some get some of those in your life.

1:56:11Do you know when bear hunters Hunt bear one of the things they want to do is hunt bear over blueberries Because when when black bears are eating blueberries they'll gorge them for days at a time and just sit there and their fat will be like Blueberry colored fat. Oh wow, and their meat tastes sweet They say it's like a unbelievably delicious meat I found with a lot of meat so once you stop eating sweet shit you taste the sweetness in me Yeah, well, it's just like your body becomes a custom To eating what it eats and your gut flora reflects that so when you get really hungry if you're used to eating a lot of carbohydrates Especially when you get if you still eating a lot of junk food your body wants more.

1:56:52It just wants it in there And also it's confused. Yeah, you guys are wise. There's so much sugar. Yeah, there's nothing attached to it There's no nutrients and vitamins like what the fuck is this? We got to keep eating because we're not getting what we want Yeah, and then there's the sugar rush then there's a fucking insulin spike There's so much bad about eating crap and when you just eat healthy food Particularly when you have like very protein rich diets or something about protein that is a high level of satiety so when you eat it if you're just eating a lot of protein your body just You get full quicker.

1:57:24You're just cool. Yeah, it's just deals it. Yeah, whereas with me with carbohydrates Like especially something like pizza I will fucking gorge myself. I'll eat a whole fucking pizza a whole large pizza Because like it's it's it's horrible every now and then I'll go and I'll go off the rail It's like not try to eat corb red of your southern corb red is going to get eaten at some point in the year Yeah, at some point it's delicious. Yeah, how do you not but you know? It's just not good to be the primary part of your dog. Yeah, yeah, I can't have corb red every day Yeah, I mean just a lot of things that people eat it's like that bear the reason why that bear is so delicious Because it is what it eats.

1:58:02Yeah, it was eating blueberries and if you could apply that to your own mind Like it's just think about what you are as a human You literally are what you eat if you eat tockies all day If you're in those like spicy chips and if you're eating fucking Doritos and bullshit and ding -dongs and fucking You know ho -hoes like that those are not good for you at all I've never said oh I've seen guys eat holes, but not ho -hoes. So oh my god Ah I don't know what a ho -ho is I've heard northern to say it like these little cake green. Oh, they're so good dude The ho -hoes if you had one right here. We'd both be going off.

1:58:38Come on. I'll show you they're good There's a reason why they're so popular. They're just loaded with sugar and chocolate and little cream in the middle of the stop Oh, oh shit. Yeah, that's a ho -ho dude look at that thing. It does look like oh my god you might be it's the bomb It's heaven if you bite into that and you're stoned Look, oh my god. It's worse. It's gonna give me the little Debbie oatmeal pie is that that's that's a that's a the kill you feel for me That's a good one. Yeah, that's the one. They try to say the little dammys is just like Oh, that bitch is evil God bless or so There it is right there now they may come into doubles.

1:59:15I'm like this isn't right. That's a murderous. That's a combination That's good. That's good. They are right. That's so good. Yeah, see, but that's why let's get the drugs off the screen I mean, it's not like everybody's eating them and they taste like Brussels sprouts right everybody's eating them because they're amazing Man, it's the make Brussels sprouts taste better though. I'll say they put bacon in that shit. That's what they did they were It changed change what Brussels sprouts is they were when I was a kid Brussels sprouts are nasty We were boiling my parents would make me eat them. We used oh man.

1:59:44We used to call it white people food You're a pop up like we will have Brussels sprouts like man, can we just have collard greens? Oh look at this It's not that you've grown up with most of his educated tastes. It's the Brussels sprouts that have changed scientists in the Netherlands Tinkered with them making the sprouts bitter no longer National public radio reports that the sprouts begin to change in the 1990s wow So that's a little bit of yeah, but they don't taste as horrible as they deal with how the kid I wonder if they're like 50 % less good for you Let's see like one of that bitterness is actually good for you The other things that was sulfur sulfur oh It was sulfur that made it bitter sulfur so once a year We used to have to take for mosquitoes my grandmother would put a teaspoon like the tip of a teaspoon of Sulfur and she poured the rest of the teaspoon of honey and you'd have to eat like right And to be beginning and probably like maybe in the middle of summer you have to eat the sulfur and honey because it make Mosquitoes they wouldn't want it you know that was her theory is sulfur bad for you though I don't I don't think it's good for you, but she already give you like that much says sulfur is responsible for the bitter sprout taste as we age We lose taste buds which can make them even more and then more palatable potentially what adults who hated sprouts as children now embrace them in seasonal dishes There's more though.

2:00:59Oh, it's what's more frosty weather converts bitter starches into sugars leading to sweeter tasting sprouts hence the logic behind grandparents remarking that they won't eat sprouts until the first frost Oh, interesting sprouts contain a chemical similar to whoo want to try that one Fennel thio carb of Mide Fennel thio carb of mine Only taste bitter to people who have a variation of a certain gene. Oh wow Around 50 % of the world's population have a mutation on this gene the lucky half don't taste the bitterness Usually associated with sprouts and therefore like them a whole lot more than everyone else That's completely being said absolutely because uh, you know out of my kids one of my kids hate spicy food She doesn't want anything spicy neither the other one will fuck around with reapers My youngest has to my temper yeah, I got get this senior lechuga sauce that has reapers in it.

2:01:58It's Delicious, but it's fucking hot man and this 13 year old kids fucking around with that yeah put it in our chicken wings Need and I was like that it's crazy. Never mind me. There's a there's a thing called cha cha that's made out of peppers in the south And they put it on their collards or their turnum greens and I just I just never like a mile cha cha I could go for But the hotter ones that are not and they're women who like just make them my grandmother's friend used to make them as madty But that shit's too fucking my sister's good, you know, but it was too much for me I always wonder like what is what is someone else tasting like what it you know, I don't know where you're tasting If something is too hot I'm not take that's the thing for me like my tongue goes in the panic mode Yeah, I never get to taste it It's just even if I have something too spicy like at the beginning when I go to like Mexican restaurant like an authentic restaurants And I'll hit something is just too hot.

2:02:47Yeah Indian restaurants too. I have to chill to fuck out Have to dinner let me let me restore my tongue this goes in the panic mode There used to be a chili place in LA called chili my soul Yeah, and it was just a chili specialist place though guy was like a real chili connoisseur And they would have it in levels like sco -vill levels And it would get up to this 10 and he said that these Sherpas came in and they were eating the chili and they were pouring More hot sauce on the 10 he said he couldn't fucking believe it when they give it to you They give it to you and like when them little tiny ice cream taste Yeah, yeah, the tiniest little cup and that's how much chili they give you when you try it They're like just try it before you order it and it's so hot But I think there's people that have like different natural levels of enjoyment of spicy food And I've got like a medium high level.

2:03:39Yeah, but then there's guys like that at a high level and then ridiculous The Sherpas pouring the hot sauce on I'm super low The super low super low super low. I like it. Yeah god bless you. Yeah, that's that was the spot That was spot yeah like that when we get the day man deep So you see that one that says Vegapoltlay that's a nine that one will fuck you up. Yeah, I mean that well There's a demon that's a 10 and you're 13 year old can eat yeah. Well, no, okay, I'll make you sign a waiver I'd like to say she's a gangster. No, they made you sign a waiver. That's that's too hot My 13 year old can fuck around with that reperson like senior Lechuga sauce, which is hot, but not preposterous It's delicious, but hot.

2:04:20Yeah, I don't have I've noticed other people who go hotter with peppers. They don't hold away as much Like they seem to they seem to get to the bathroom and all get right back out You know, it's probably got some kind of effect and it probably good My thing with hot foods for me is they go in and come out hot too. Yes, and I hurts both ways Yeah, my assholes used to it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, my assholes. They used to much, you know My assholes used to I shit a lot though. Yeah, I've come to realize it's probably reason even though I'm in fact I'm relatively healthy like I'm good. Yeah, I'm in there a few times daily I get scared when people say they haven't shit.

2:04:56Yeah, that scares the shit out of me. Yeah, that's scared You don't sit on you into a doctor like what's going on? Yeah, yeah, I shit all the time. Yeah, gotta let it go Don't hold it, bro. No, no, no, you to be a stepper no hold it Yeah, it's you know people get stuck up that I had a friend of mine who had to get an operation His asshole got like clogged up and they had to go in there with like a device and pull shit out of his asshole in a hospital Was he just not drinking enough water? I don't know. I wish I wish I knew my sister almost died doing Coachella Scared to shit out of me a couple years ago because There was something stuck in it.

2:05:33It's her like her intestines had turned So thank God for overseeing my sister Lashonda. We got her home But they they you know we she was she was locked for but and my friend rock Deeta guy who wrote the record kryptonite Bro the big boy he had Um, an issue they lost the gang weight looks healthy as shit now That scared to shit out of me and it made me start taking my gut health a little more seriously So I got on the probiotic shit and all this other shit and shame winning I for them just like keep shit in two three times a day Sir, you know, yeah, don't go a day without it because you know, you don't want to lose you don't want that's like If the one thing that would motivate you the most for everybody is a hell scare That's the thing that mo that's the thing that wakes people up, but you don't want to have to get there But for some reason sometimes we need like someone near us or something like that to make us go okay, okay Let me get up in the morning drink this warm little water, you know, yeah, let me let me let me let me get in This little three mile walking nine in the morning and I wait to eat till one o 'clock Don't you like all that kind of shit that I've incorporated K from I Sustor could have died like yeah, I mean get get all your shit wrong get on your shit We have one shot of this life I think yeah, and I don't know if anything's after so I'm gonna try to have all the fun I can't hear what do you think happens Well, I think energy doesn't die, but I don't know if you're gonna know who you were And that I don't need to do well, I would like to just because I miss my mom, you know, I wrote the song motherless That's on Michael a lot of people have you know played in a cry to hit me on Twitter I just miss her and I would like for her to know That I heard my grandmother, you know, who gets my mama dead my grandmama dead So I start the record.

2:07:14I never said that I cried in the booth, you know rapping it and um Just because I wanted to be proud, you know, I want her to know it worked. That's beautiful So I that's beautiful so I could get that what you would want If you do die to know who you were. Yeah, what you know, but but it's not required because it's again being raised In the Christian philosophy like my grandmother told me, you know, she says you know in the next life You don't remember, you know, you're not gonna know if you get a chance to go to heaven Because all the trauma and all that shit would come with you and that's not supposed to be there But but it'd be it'd be nice to you know, it'd be nice to carry the good memories I just wonder what that is when we think of ourselves if we are this temporary thing We think of ourselves in terms of like our our our life We live our friends our behavior our this or that But we're just this thing.

2:08:07It's like carrying itself through this dimension One day this is this physical thing that's carrying you around. It's not gonna work anymore. It's gonna shut off 100 % yeah, well unless there's some crazy new technology that gets invented in our time that reverse is aging Which they're working on yeah, I know then then what are you gonna do then you have a population problem? No one's dying like that's that's a real issue Well, I think the poor people will still be talking release on the first 50 years of the technology It'll be like cell phones. Yeah, we a rich. I'm right. Well, you are you cuz you yeah Your culture is like better than mine not that I have a bad one, but you just do me a millionaire.

2:08:40I am but I'm not 100 million Millionaires aren't rich millio millio millio millio millio millio millio millio So no no I feel rich, but it's in rich You know, so there's a record call in rich on my album right? You know that it's all and it means Negro rich What does that mean the bad taxis and a couple lawsuits to mean the kids? I could be back to working at the auto zone So you also do exactly what I'm doing and I think you think I'm gonna voice you would be fantastic at it You are so good at speaking you're so good at speaking publicly You know in the the few times that I've seen you speak on political issues and social issues when you speak publicly You're brilliant at it.

2:09:17You're brilliant at it. Thank you. You're a great conversationist. You're a kind person Absolutely, and that's very very that's very important for a person like yourself, especially that has so much influence Be a kind person. Yeah, man. Yeah, it's you can do it. Betty Clarkson say be nice be nice be nice nice. Oh, she was she was a mean half earner day My grandma then I see she would tell this story job how there was this um There was this pretty girl who went to school with him, you know Dressed the girl had to dress. She had a hair press every day. My grandmother says in that Heffa go step on my foot and not say excuse me I pulled all the howl and I was just like you know, I was just like whoo you are You were quite the little wild witch in your day Don't you know those back then people were more inclined to like getting fights.

2:10:06Yeah. Yeah, I absolutely But my heart sister told me after she died Husso is to say that girl one doing under Betty that girl one doing nothing And that girl was just walking my home business and bedding bed a stupid behind it So that girl he had her And so my grandmother apparently had been such a meaning in her life that by the time she Got old enough and why is nothing raised us she would just tell me my sister stuff like that be nice Because she had been me. Yeah, she learned the lesson. Yeah, probably had some bad feelings about it Yeah, she did and she's man she was such a great. She ended up being a nurse Taking care of a lot of people um in the last days of their life You know even after some people I remember people like miss Hayes and running out of money and my grandmother never stopped going She never stopped taking care of that woman after her husband Mr Hadad died.

2:10:53I was just like that. She would take us to the old folk homes with Sadie maize and Sundays as children She'd make us go speak to people greet them She'd help the nurses change bed pants and stuff and I think that she realized at some point in her life That what was more important was for her helping her fellow human being in her neighbor Versus you know being mad because someone had slightly more than her That's beautiful. Well, that's just life though, right? Learned lessons life and acquired wisdom. Yeah Yeah, and trying to pass it on to your kids so they get the skipper couple steps That's what I realized that that ultimately she was teaching me and my sisters like yes Like this past the point of lusting like comparison is it is a thief of joy something I learned for watching her She never um allowed us to figure it out.

2:11:37Yeah, she did. Yeah, her and my grandpa. That's beautiful That's a different world back then man. Yeah, I mean could think about it My grandfather would have saw her life and thought she was rich Yeah, because they hurt parents got a 38 car farm. Yeah, you know, he's he's on Shit he's in a lumber company at eight You know my you know, she said to me eight years old eight. I don't lumber company. He was the first person to tell me Um, bread has saw me on it and I'm just like what you talking about right then he was like the shavings from what they put in I'm just like it fuck out of here then sometime at some point Yoga mats are in subway food you find out that there's something artificial that's making the bread right and while he was saying was there putting shit in your food That's bad for you.

2:12:24It's not real. You know, this is 80 this is 83 84. He said that to us What was that yoga mat thing was it was just a chemical that uses a preservatives? Yes, also used in yoga. I just I just like But you know, he was letting me know that an industrial food is not right Which is why he would eat when when he ate say a gamey to stuff he'd ask my grandmother make cornbread or he or he Yeah, he ate a lot of wheat bread. He didn't eat a lot of white bread at all, but I guess man, they just at some point this shit's been figured out long before people were charging us for the information Well, it's also people who lived a certain way before that Yeah, didn't eat any preservatives and they didn't eat any bullshit and there was no herbicides that sprayed all over everything They well they did have DDT back then that was a giant issue man.

2:13:12They fucking they use DDT to protect people from insects And that you know back when they didn't know the DDT was like super fucking toxic kill it everybody. Yeah, damn Do you know they still use that shit in India? No, yes over food? I don't know what they sprayed on But apparently people still get see see if you can find that if that's true I was reading about it DDT was horrible. Yeah scary shit man Like every now and then they'll fuck up and do something like that. What's all around up? Yeah, you would tell him about the chemical that gets sprayed on our vegetables It's it's not just that it's that corn has been genetically modified in order to survive roundup Yeah, and so they sprayed on everything it just nukes everything but the corn But that's just the tip of the iceberg You know the the spraying of these things on golf courses and it gets in a water supply I knew what dude who everyone in his neighborhood got cancer damn he had to get his bone and it's thigh replaced with like this titanium rod Because he had bone cancer and it's thigh It was explained to me that it was the runoff from the golf course because you got a thing to keep those golf courses that green They got to spray all kinds of shit in it and they got into people's water supply damn That's terrifying man.

2:14:30That's terrifying. You're getting poisoned by the wall And if you're next to a golf course, you're not in the poor neighborhood. No No, that's what you're thinking about middle class no Lord of Lord of middle class neighborhoods. That's crazy. It's got fucked By this It's a very unnatural ecosystem like why is there grass everywhere like that's kind of crazy. Wow My god, you know, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I was cool. That was just that there was um There was something I wrote as a note to think about that I'll pull up but it was it was it was a similar thing No, I'm cool. I mean, I'm Joe Rogan show.

2:15:05Yeah, fuck am I gonna do I just I'm so addicted to my phone when I see people reaching for their phone I know I get the pull now. I'm straight wrong with it. I'm actually I'm reaching for more point thing to join in the Ric Flair grinders Yeah, we got will choose Who would have thought that Ric Flair one day would have his own weed brand? Deserved it. You know, I only wish dusty rolls was still alive date to me Rick always says that Jimmy Snooker Um was his greatest opponent. I disagree with him on that. It was dust because date to me they were the The um the opposite set of america needed in the 80s.

2:15:40It was a son of a plumber You put hard times on dusty rolls to the leader of the folk for horsemen high fly style and you know I mean it was to me there were the the two greatest examples for american maledom, you know I didn't even follow pro wrestling like when I was 15 16 Yeah, Ric Flair was popping but I still loved Ric Flair. Yeah, like whenever Ric Flair made it like what where were the years that he made it? Everybody knew man. You talk about 80 world the early 80s to the early 90s. It was all flat. It was all flat Just them in the 80s. I didn't know they were doing that look at dust look at the hunger Dave for he enjoy Look at the hair The hair was amazing Bro how many times that he gets slammed like that?

2:16:24I'm so life. So after playing crash and a broken back. Yeah insane And dust was to me that the equivalent of him from the working man's perspective a shit talkers look at look at dust Yeah Bro we had Ric Flair on the podcast Yeah, and he was just telling us about the road stories about going into these small towns and performing and getting drunk and picking up all the ladies He was hilarious. He was hilarious. You got to love it On the hard time speech that dust rolls gave every man Man lord if you want to be motivated listen to that speech before before you do whatever the fuck you do What is it?

2:17:02It's called the hard it's hard time speech that um Rick that it was a match set up and the four -horsemen that jumped on dusty rose You know, it's a kid you're invested emotionally into it You know, I'm saying it and it dust just gave this powerful speech You put up look at him. He's in the fucking Paul old tie. He's been a mom though Yes, let's just look at this shit Okay Listen to those fans Oh Okay Talk about it Why you feel does no one oh A lot of them Come on if you got to overcome stuff What's all that stuff I have to work they got four five kids and can't pay the wages can't buy the food come on I win the auto workers are out of work and they tell them go home and hard times Oh, man, I'm working a job 30 years and what they do what they do does what they do And tell them Come on man y 'all think tell me hey, I come on man listen to that shit in the morning Times on this country by taking dust the road that's hard time.

2:18:50That's it Jamie. We could cut it come on Jamie look at the smile, man. You look like you feel good, man. Like you can overcome it all, man That's an amazing speech. That's an amazing speech. That's the very best aspect of pro wrestling. Absolutely That's to me. That's the theater. Yeah, you know, that's the beauty of it. They executed to perfection perfect Everybody do it. Yeah, and it's it resonates with people. Yeah, this is about those people This is in the 80s where I remember when Hall steel left my grandpa used to work for my other grandpa My dad all of a sudden had to start working another job like when when we start losing jobs You know when when car company starts and well, we'll go to this country's cheaper than man people on America fell on hard times Yes, you know 100 % and that's where where's Roger?

2:19:40Roger in me. Yeah, Roger in me. Yeah, that um that was Michael. That was Michael right? Yes, Michael more. Yeah, it's an amazing doctor Part of my inspiration for doing trigger water was Michael more. It's an amazing documentary because it just it shows you the direct effects Of pulling those jobs out and it was instantaneous It was like the the bottom came out of the swimming pool and all the water just went away like what the fuck And you just left people to their own devices. Yeah, and these people were and it's just for money Yeah, it's just for money could it could it could have stayed in the United States I want to increase profit margin and they did you know, and they killed the unions They mean there was I'm not dead and kill the unions, but they weakened them significantly What they had going on there was great wages and great programs and they had Plenty of money and it was a good job to get yeah I had friends that were in the union that that worked in my friend Justin He uh forget what's the company he worked for but some American company Yeah, he said that there's a lot of these guys that were like these union guys like they were sitting high on the hog And they wanted to keep that going and they wanted to make a lot of money and the auto company was like no My thing.

2:20:48We're just gonna go to Mexico. Yeah. Yeah, and that is a wild decision So wild decision to make a whatever more money, but to know that you're gonna destroy a city And you know, how did they let them do that and you know, it's There's some complexities of a guy in older I understand too because at that time you have Japanese cars on the rise And they've learned how to make a cheaper car. Yeah, they've learned how to make a very reliable and and efficient They're making 20 years, you know, I mean yeah, and so they had to be competitive You know Americans were used to buy cars every two to four years because they felt like it You know what I'm saying and all of a sudden that's got me on my uncle worked for the city was a garbage truck driver Brand new Cadillac every two to three years if you wanted to that so you know There's always the balance of now people are invested.

2:21:37You got investors. We want greater returns It's it wasn't just I don't think it was a simple fuck you as much as in order to stay competitive We're gonna have to do didn't know the Dodge K car was a shitty did they made some terrible cars Yeah, it couldn't compete but by the time they got it figured out They got it figured out, but it didn't get figured out in the 80s when they needed to so we got decimated But it's just that that decision to take the companies and just shut them down there and move them to somewhere else Where you could pay people less money It doesn't just involve money it involves like these all these people that work for you Yeah, is it supposed to be like some sort of sort of a community?

2:22:13Yeah, they're all work you hopefully you enjoy being around each other working together You're just gonna crush all of their lives. Yeah, that's a wild decision to make it is it is a wild decision to make just for money And it's just one of those ones that just happened before most people were aware it was even going on Yeah, and it happens in the middle of the crack era I didn't know about it at all until that documentary really I know I knew something happened Yeah, Troy crash and but I didn't know the like the real fucking horrors That those people went through when they just pulled the plug on like that one and most the coolest one a happiest moment I had I did a Commercial for Cadillac for a Cadillac V.

2:22:55They let me drive one for you. It was it was pretty dope. We wasn't the V but it was pretty flush um The daughter I mean the granddaughter of a of a Simley line worker was the director of that department and over everything Oh, and like you said now just thought when you say community That's what we think about her grandfather had worked the assembly library the Cadillac or GM with your own of course Cadillac Chevrolet Buick old party act had been on the Simley line and here was his granddaughter is college Educated now and running this department. That's ultimately at his at his best. That's what this country can be Yeah, you know what I mean?

2:23:30But even when I say does like you know the cake heart and Did it was you know Dodger struggling Lehigh coke? I think was over at the time He couldn't couldn't bring it home for that but shit by the time a single father who's a black dude He's gonna come time there 2009 and 10s when it came time to bring the charge of back He was like we're gonna give guys a Ford or muscle car And and and did it and brought like they've been dominating ever since you know what I'm saying in terms of just cool muscle cars Yeah, people like cool shit. Yeah, people like and I believe America That's what separates the swag shop from other barber shops the same thing that separates American cars from some other You know affordable cars like mother fuckers out shit is cool.

2:24:08Yeah, yeah, this there's undeniable coolness in that challenger You know the rumble of that thing Mean that thing the same looks like a modern old super occur I'm not old muscle and when you're six three like me. It's comfortable as shit Right. Yeah, yeah, it's it and it just in terms of the interior but I drove a few years ago GM took Sorry GQ took me out to drive the the hellcat the Mustang and the Camaro Enjoyed every one of the rides was most comfortable in that cat You know as fit you know what to tie you know, I mean it's just got a great amount of pickup It just feels good feel even if you don't use it.

2:24:49Yeah, it's a violent drive though like if you're if you're not like you and I used to muscle cars Yeah, it's a it's a violent drive, you know, yeah, it's not like the acceleration of a Subaru Even super was they make that WRX. Yeah, it's fast as shit But there's something about those those pro -lossers look at look at That's a beautiful car. It's a beautiful car. I mean they fucking nailed it. They really did make it look like a modern version of a muscle car I drove a hellcat. I did a special. Oh look at that thing I drove a hellcat in 2014. Yeah, I was in Denver. They let me borrow when I was filming my special Yeah, and it was I was like it's like a big GT car.

2:25:30That's what it's like. Yeah, it's like a big To -door like super comfortable fine. It's all American. Yep Funny shit who know where the parts are coming from I gotta I have a call from my bro, man. I got your ourselves in land. I got a call from G He's like bro. My man just hit me in a gustor. They got one For this price all you got to do is it's come grab it It's raining and I got a podcast to do with one of the homie Seabon from Peruvian all stars Me and Shay and G uber down there or I think you know, we just mean her uber down there to Augusta Which is like two hours away to two hour ubered.

2:26:10Yeah, we two hour ubered so you're having a drive it back We went down there to pick it up took cash down there like yo, we came with the money This asshole car sales like a car places. Please get rid of the assholes like like south Atlanta Mercedes with the asshole I'll tell you a story about later who didn't just want to say I'm sorry to apologize and lost the customer for life but We went down there Said yo, this is the price you want this is what we got agreed upon a price and then right at the last minute This guy just decided he didn't want to be out negotiated by a chick So he tried to add an extra like 500 thousand bucks on something and she's like nope.

2:26:45We're not paying it And she's like excuse me. You don't get the courage and she's like no, we're not paying it We're gonna pay you this much. We got a car. We know you guys can't get this car too relatively quickly It's the end of the month so you got to get shit with this is what we're paying and the dudes like well We're not gonna get she's like well snow ubers gonna come get us now. We're gonna leave it this car. Who's your boss? She has them call the general manager the guy over the whole thing and she says excuse me, sir I want to give you this much money cash, but this motherfucker right here is tripping over 500 hours of grating.

2:27:16She looks at her and looks at the guy says give her the fucking car And we and we and we drive that motherfucker back to a man to make her I told her girl for the beer woman you got balls because I was ready to be out the fuck is 500 I don't pay you know me right right she's like no, we're not doing it. No, it is some sneaky shit. Yeah, man She was just like it on once you've already gotten there. Yeah, yeah, she was just like Wayne doing it. I wanted to car so bad you know, I said I'm just a car. I don't give a fuck You know, I get it, but it's just dealing with a person like that that does that That's that funny scene in Fargo when they're always trying to upcharge.

2:27:51Yeah That was such a great movie. That was a great fucking movie Well, that's just the weird thing about people when they're that's their job their job is to sell you shit Yeah, that's what they're trying to do. You want to bullshit you and tell you some shit? So I get a self -aligned and say so I go I Take her S -550 down here. Should we blow this up like this? Yeah, man. Yeah, cuz the dude's a fucking ass Um I'm not gonna name this fucking name, but the guy who's over the whole department is it's amazing He was he was cool as fuck but there's this guy so I go in my last name is render Which is a very rare last name.

2:28:27It's not a not a lot usually if you he say render within the southeast We're related in some capacity So I had called him and say hey, how much for this give me an estimate and I'll see if I'll do it They when I that when I got down to the estimate that they told me was radically different like double Triple I'm like this fuck you don't you don't you talking about five six grams my book time I 14 grand or something This doesn't make any sense right The guy says I told the lady I said there has to be some mistake. Let's figure out so the guy comes from the back And he's total total like I was a sucker in high school.

2:29:00So now I got tattoo sleeve. I got a funky haircut And now I'm just a fucking man type guy. I'm just like yeah, I'm like there's something to be sometimes Oh, there's no mistake I'm like excuse me. I'm like I'm like hold on why you talking loud to me don't do that You know what I mean and we we we end up he's like I'm gonna show you and you're gonna have to pay and I'm just like no This is there's a mistake here So whoever was there their name was shea s HAE My wife's name is s HA why When they put her in the in terms that cut her names actually shine s HA and eight but s HA wise how they put her in there and I'm just like After going back and forth with this motherfucker for like eight minutes.

2:29:41I look and I said Mother fuck it. That's not my wife with the fuck you talking about This is her And he looks at me and it just drains out of his face. You can see it's like oh, I fucked up I've accused the customer of lying. I would have been double. I'm trying he doesn't have to respect to say I apologize And and literally just shake man Yeah, doesn't have to respect to do that. So I told them when I went back and talked to the guy who ran the auto department I say man you've been great. I'll just I'll never use you guys again And I'm gonna I plan on buying a Mercedes and I'll never buy from here I drive 40 minutes north to Bucket and I'll buy from another dealership.

2:30:18Whoa, just I'll never shut there And now if I come back and that guy's fired he's gone, you know, I'll reconsider So when I go back home I go peek in. Are you still here? No fuck? Yeah, just cuz you got it you can't you can't do that man You can't you poor customer service when I talk to him to my employees reason is voice at mean I'm just like bro like don't do that. You know, I like doesn't even know what's going on Yeah, yeah, but shouldn't he initially say is this you Or let's just call to my office and get this thing figured out right but imagine just that Showing you that you would look right out and go no no and that you would be done.

2:30:56There would be instant That would have it but people want to be right. Yeah, that's the problem with online shit Yeah, you know Just like Yeah, they want to be right what people like to people like to talk people don't like to fight for real No, no, I was just in the hotel in New York and a guy was I was just like a guy was Wanted to fight and I'm just like you don't want to fight like first. I can fight a little But the little I can't fight. I want to take this thumb And I want to put it in your eye and you're not going to have a eye to rest of your life Because you're gonna want to walk up to me and you're gonna talk shit I'm gonna fang like I'm afraid and I'm gonna put my thumb right in your eye till I touch the back of your skull And you're not gonna have an eye because that's how I fight He was a security guard and he was He attempted to say something.

2:31:43I said you're lying Don't lie to me. I've only stayed in this place the last decade I spent over quarter million dollars staying here. Don't don't do that. Don't lie to me You know just go get me someone who can accommodate me But you know it turned into a well he would thought it was a yelling match I was talking my customer fuck you. If I say if you hit me now I'm gonna sue the hotel But if you walk up to me and get within these many inches I'm gonna fang and I'm gonna put my thumb through your fucking eye That's that's for real. That's anywhere in the world So just know when you run up on me trying to fight you you might leave Iless because I'm not going to fight you Not gonna fight you Yeah, don't fight people.

2:32:19Yeah, don't fight don't yeah, don't invite the fight if you want to fight go do what I'm gonna do when I go on Join a jiu jitsu class, you know get slammed on your back by someone who knows the fuck they're doing But on the street fight there are no rules. I'm not going. I'm not fucking boxing you I'm not letting you get your arm around my neck. I'm going to go for the softest weakest point on your body If I have a blade on me, I'm going to stab you in your throat And you're gonna have to figure out how to stop that artery from bleeding, but I'm not fighting you. I stopped that fighting shit in high school Yeah, yeah, and you're not trying to fight anybody I'm listening.

2:32:51I'm the bitch. I'm not fighting. Yeah, fuck trying to fight Yeah, I don't want to fight. I want to smoke marijuana. Yeah, go see the wonderful lazy to blue flame with my lady I want to drive muscle cars. I am not into having who's got the biggest dick contest in our 40s. No, beautiful No that way no if someone does want to fight you. It's 100 % dumb. Yeah, it's not me Yeah, but if you get within my striking distance. Yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna get you Yeah, I think it's more dangerous. Yeah, I'll never know what people are gonna do. Yeah, I got a situation with Dave and In LA. Yeah, they ran up on stage.

2:33:26Yeah, we're not gonna do that guy random on stage I mean stuff I self -weds me and LP that's when I first tour my first first rotator cuff tear The guy of skits a friend of god blesses so home is guy, you know But man you gotta be prepared Mickey on stuff. Soch of carry trainer on Mick Mick has a has a podcast. I'm jumping on too, but Mick talks about that all the time And he puts it up on his page just situational awareness This thing to do is just get fuck out of there. Yeah, like I was saying I'm gonna do kind of walk him like you know what the fuck I'll start laughing Let this elevator come let me get the fuck out of here Cuz you know, I mean, I don't want to you know, I'm like an ad if you look at a lion a lion before a lion lion Lion sees a human coming on let me get fuck out of here.

2:34:07He was a smaller week when I'm gonna I'm gonna get fuck out of fuck. I've heard they kill some shit and get fuck out of here But but but if pressed it's gonna come out their corner fighting. So yeah, hence raccoons kick dogs asses Black people shouldn't keep using that as an insult to one another raccoons are pretty gnarly The craziest things watching Badger's fight off wolves They fight off everybody everybody can fuck off. Yeah, there's a little thing. They're low in mean. They're crazy Wild, which college has the badger is on what's today? Wisconsin Any man, this is just got to look at him.

2:34:39Oh, don't get older mean like Scotty man. Don't do that. Don't turn Man, what the fuck? That makes me sad when you have a horror you wife though You know, it'll wise and children can drive can drive teen drive good kings mad man. God bless man. Yeah, it's true It definitely can happen. Yeah, your life is in a shambles. I mean if you read the Bible It's a pretty interesting book the first half man when it talks about the kings and then one for women You look at King David is one for Batchiba Set the man to the front lines to die, you know And it's been throughout history that we've been involved in Those kind of situations the wrong person in your life.

2:35:18I actually think that's what Parts of the Bible are about again. I'm not a believer in even Abraham religion when I was raised I'm trying to take that's from what I was learning a lot of that shit was just about bro Yeah It gets crazy bro It's crazy. That's a their version of it gets crazy. It gets crazy bro Think about what you do. It's the learn. Yeah, be careful. What's your axe for bro? You want it bro? Yeah, you know your first talent is gonna die with her, you know her you know, it's like god damn, bro You know, but you get you get an amazing talent kid out of it too. You get the redeeming of it God's gonna let you feel it a little.

2:35:55How much would you pay to been there when they first started writing that stuff down Try to figure out what did you know? Where are you getting these stories? I just would have liked to inject a man Can we keep can we you know, can we make sure Africa? It you know, we could talk more about the black folks. You know, that's all I would just be like Yeah, yeah, like bro like You know we were there like not only there you know you know Ethiopia some all you can y 'all like you know all this shit once was just new be a even before it's called Egypt Like all over like like a lot of this shit is based on like why did the 10 Commandments sound eerily like these these um These affirmations from Egypt like what like yeah, you know, I would have um, I would have said, but you know, man You I gotta just say man to Western society propaganda man y 'all are mastered this shit Whoever the fuck, you know, I'm saying when the church decided yo Blacks and Jewish people man.

2:36:55They're like animals. You can enslaved them and fernanils the bell Was like fuck it. Let's run this shit y 'all propaganda campaign been mean man and not because it Necessarily subjugated people like me to brute the brutality is a slave and shit like that It convinced poor white people That we're good for you The one of the most brutal things about not wanting to know true and factual history is you don't understand how you're being fucked over too It's like if you look at the word cracker Cracker is not something that black people made up. I used to think you know when you were young you'd hear it means whip cracker You know it's a wasn't it was a derogatory term that People in the United Kingdom used for country or slower white folks crackers and gypsies Gypsies were the people known to populate upper Georgia law of Tennessee Alabama places like that date the red net was also one of the terms we didn't make these terms up These terms came from the master class or what they were called the planner class who used poor white people And when too many Tim Wise talked about this when too many poor white people and black people who were Seen as equals at one point counted united and had a few rebellions They were like no we got to put in it is shit, you know So I would just say man I wish that whoever was writing the Bible or remixing it would have put a little more commonality in there So you wouldn't get all this weird Funky division and the masters still kind of rule us all you know it's still always the people that are in charge Yeah, disseminating that information initially and they're always they always have some sort of an interest in Framing it in a way that suits them the best like even in the foundation of the country All men are created equal.

2:38:36Yeah, so what they had to do to justify that is to say that black man or three fifths of the man Yeah, literally putting it into the way they structure the country Yeah, and you know it wasn't there was an economic incentive to do it You know, yes, and and and that doesn't make it right But it helps my community understand that the shit's about money and like they did it But why did the church do it? It's just you got to think about that though before we get to America Yeah, and I guess the church the Catholic church at one point says We can go ahead and tell everybody all human beings are equal.

2:39:11Let's stop bullshit But then should stay at the choose and say Jews and black people are different and for nannies of Bella And Portugal and say it was well fuck it. It's all and you just transatlantic slave trade starts So my thing is getting back to why was the Bible written like that gets back to so why would the church allow that and then you get to ask What the church allowed that then why aren't they included in there? You know and and and beyond who's the bad guy What empires in Africa are we not talking about what kings have we not talked about what great and glorious Because the Greeks looked at Africans like they were gods yes, they look these motherfuckers these are the illus mother fuckers all over whoever was there during the Construction of the pyramids.

2:39:51It's created the most insane structures the world ever known Count Volney says and they made him retract it But he said of ruins of empires he said it is obvious to me that the people we now subjugate to slavery These dark hair kinky kinky kinky kinky hair these dark kinky hair people were what's the rulers and builders? They put this shit here. He said that he was a Orientalist which were people who were sent out of their countries that's You know to go study Asia. He's an African shit. This motherfucker standing there like the mother fuckers did built this shit Somehow we've subjugated slavery when people say you know if you were smart enough to boot out How could you be made a slave gingers car one particularly smart?

2:40:31He was violent and brutal And a lot of times the people who won have been the most violent and brutal well gingers commas both but yeah He was he was both violent brutal and very intelligent but just intelligence from a military way. Yes, oh tactically No, but I'm talking about military like what is he what did he build? Oh? There was no building, but that's what I'm saying. Yeah, but it was just figuring out how to destroy empire Yeah, but that's what I'm saying that's yes, that's not the same though. It's building an empire. You get what I'm saying No, it's definitely definitely not the same.

2:41:02Yeah, it doesn't you know I can I know some gang leaders that that are comparable to war generals Right, but the question becomes who are the people That are going to build the next empire right and I think that that's where the danger in the old world of when the church was really government The church conspiring with warlords for certain things to be destroyed so they can then come and assume control You know because ultimately even the most brutal people don't end up winning the most shrewd people do The that that small circle of brilliant motherfuckers that know how to control like you know Ginghis who who were who were his advisors?

2:41:39Who profited most from it? You know, I'm saying he was famous for Capturing armies and incorporating their generals. Yeah, that's he would you know And if if someone tried to surrender he would just kill them because he would say well, he wouldn't do with me Like why would I do that? Oh shit. So they would say I've I've surrendered. I've come I'm coming to you and he'd go oh really Well, I'm gonna fucking kill you because you have no loyalty Oh, wow, but he would take over like With certain generals and certain he would he would bring them in yeah, and just accept them He was completely open to any religion He goes I don't give a fuck what your religion is brilliant.

2:42:15You could be you could be whatever you want We're here to fuck people up. Yeah, okay, and fuck cuz apparently he left a lot of descendants. Oh my god Yeah, it was like one of us three has Ginghis Khan blood in our body. It's apparently it's something crazy like that We've talked about it many times and I always forget what the percentages my sister Rodney's hitting me I think we got 10 minutes. Let's get the fuck out of Mike you're the man. I love him, Rose. I love you too. You know that all right. Thanks for that You're brilliant. You're new albums incredible. Yeah, thank you starter podcast Mike Michael yeah, go fuck with it.

2:42:44Look at that man. Look at that cute little chubby motherfucker, man Bye, buddy You