#2004 - Ice Cube

37:13You know, he's working constantly. He's in Spain right now. Yeah, he is that's amazing That's amazing that he's just carrying on that's beautiful. It is. I must make you very proud man. It's like the best One guy asked me You know, how's it feel seeing your son, you know straight out of Compton and and on does so well. I said it's like It's like Winning the Super Bowl on the team And then your son comes and win the Super Bowl for that same team That's the feeling. I don't know if anybody has ever had that feeling But it seems like that's how I feel it's like I won with NWA And he One with NWA That's amazing That's man.

38:03What a perfect person to play. I mean, I How who would be better to play you? It's perfect. It's perfect. I mean Before he you know decided to take the movie I you know, I would take him on tour with me and we would do We was doing that anyway. He would jump on stage. He would do dope man, and you know, I'm like, oh, this my son, you know And I'm like man. He got that swag up here I mean My movie young me Okay, so when it was time to do the movie When it was really a go I went to him and I said hey, man, this This NWA movie look like it's gonna go Um, here's like cool, man. That's good. Good luck.

38:49Man. That's great. Like hold on. Oh, no. I said um I want you to play me He was like Okay And I'm like wow That was too easy. You know, I mean, that was like you know, that was he was like okay, and he just kept on walking Wait a minute and then I said I got to see if he's serious Or he's just you know saying okay just saying okay, but it's so I held a lot of work. So I Start putting him through the through the ringer a little bit, you know, I was like Hey, man, we got to act and we got to act and coach for you You know, I'll let you need to go down there on Thursday, you know, you need to be there at this time that boom boom boom Like oh, all right, all right, and he would go and I'm like, okay, he's starting to go But is he just going is he participating?

39:46Is he into it? You know boom. So I'm gonna try something else I sent him to New York to a guy Uh For for you know, training acting Like I'm sitting wallowing in New York to see if he'll do that because that's when he'll bail be like Oh, you know, I got something to do. So he got on the plane flew to New York, worked this cat flew back now when he flew back I was checking him out saying what he was doing, you know, we was far from actually casting a movie at that time And then he was like uh, he came up. He was like I'm gonna go work with my coach today I'm like what say yeah me and my acting coach were gonna get together.

40:33We're gonna do a couple of little things So I'm like he's into it He's into it Yeah, so then I let him do that. So now I have to approach Gary Gray now Gary Gray is the director of straight out of Compton He also directed Friday and he directed it. It was a good day, you know, these are Some of my biggest projects and when I told him He was like, yeah, man, it's cool, you know, he just thinking about who you gonna get to play his I said okay, guess what I want to play ice cube He's like, oh, oh, oh, I said my son He was like cute What the fuck man thought we was making a real movie man We are making a real movie what you're talking about I said He's gonna be great in it He's gonna be great if you get the part I he'll have to audition and universal sign off on him But you're gonna work with him just like John singleton work with me You know, I mean John put me in boys in the hood.

41:46I didn't act. I wasn't no actor. I was just a rapper and um He saw something me put me in the movie and he helped me through it and The rest is history and you're gonna do the same thing And he was like So make a long story short So audition time screen test time Now My son going there and he said he got pissed off Because it's five other fucking ice cubes there all this He's like these dudes think they're about to take this he said man I felt like I had the family name on my back I had to go in there House this shit And he said you know when he left the the the screen test Donna Langley from universal call me And it was like your son was great.

42:38He was actually the best one and we're gonna sign off on it Wow, yeah It's cool cool story that's a great story it's great story the way you made him do it too. That's so smart He worked harder than any other actor like two years of grinding Because You know the coach's son always he get it to worse right? I mean yeah and and There was no different on this movie of course he had to I had to make sure that he One and he set up his self for a career in this game. That's amazing That's me Your career like What's one of the things is so fascinating about your career? It's like there was never anyone like you before that did what you did you went from gangster rap to Like family movies.

43:31Yeah Like no one's ever done that and then sports entertainment like you you branched out into so many things but The the key part of it that people need to understand today Is when you guys came out when NWA came out the whole world When what the fuck? Yes, the whole world. I remember I was I was in revier, Massachusetts. I was on an elliptical machine at the gym And a friend of my told me you got a listen to this shit and I had a cassette walk man. Yeah, so I'm there with the cassette walk man on an elliptical shit Liptical machine listening straight out of Compton going holy shit Like this is why there was nothing like that before that and I remember like laughing while while it was riding the elliptical Disguise how the fuck in my yeah, this is crazy and Then there was like the tipper gourd shit where how girls wife was trying to censor rap music the PM RC pants resources Mutants music counselor something like that.

44:31Oh, and um, that was the Democrats folks that that's the reason you have an advisory sticker on the record Because that was the compromise they were saying You know, I sent my Sent my daughter to the record store to buy a record she came home with the fucking two -live crew I know this shit was gonna be like this You know, so You know the compromise from the the record industry was will put a Perennial advisory Sticker On the record to so if a parent was buying a record for Christmas, you know, they parents was like I want too short, you know I mean they go buy the two short record put it in and they like what the hell so We were the first group to put that sticker on our records We were the very first group because Wow Priority records designed that Perennial advisory sticker and uh, yep that sticker and it was It was actually it had to be Stuck on the record like a sticker and they had to go through all our records in every record store and put the sticker on So the next time we did artwork We just planted it in the artwork And then kids wouldn't buy your shit if it didn't have to stick It's like Put in the sticker on clean records It's like a clean record now one Answered profanity on it, but they was putting the parental advisory because kids was looking at it was like we're just stickin That's a there's an opposite effect that promotes it.

46:25Yes, that's what exactly what happened it promoted it Two live crew was the first band that got arrested though, right more than the first band that got arrested um On stage, I believe yeah, I'm not sure you know history rap got a long history, you know I don't know if somebody you know tackled you know cool her because somebody right right but but uh That's the one that went you know nationwide news um, and yeah, you got arrested Yeah, yeah, Luke Luke fought for All of our freedom of speech to be honest, you know if they were to took Luke now In the two -live crew at the time and said that There's a music is too obscene and you can't sell stuff like this you know Everything would probably be so you know sterile right now, you know, yeah, oh for sure That's the same thing with Howard Stern in radio.

47:23Yes, you know, they went after Howard They they find them insane amounts of money for the Howard Stern show Yes, I remember and if he just folded and gave into that there probably no podcasts or it would have taken a lot longer Exactly. Yeah It's incredible It's incredible when When you stand up at the moment of truth, you know, yeah, like it's important for us to stand up Went at the time that is going on and not Back down and then try to Regroup and yeah, and then go at it, you know, it's it's really important It is for people to stand up for themselves, but it's it's hard. Yes, it's hard to day more than ever because you get so much pressure People like especially during COVID People ganged up on people people were doing the man's work for the man's like yeah Who the fuck are you trusting like why are you trusting these people that have been lying forever?

48:24Yeah, man It was wild during that time like It you know people Um Being bullied into doing things that they Didn't want to do a lot of them didn't want to do it. They did it because of their work or their yeah, you know their And a lot of situations or yeah a lot of them are Heard and right now, you know, I know You know, I know God has You know been dealing with Tonight is since since he got it and so You know, it's just I know quite a few people that got fucked up Some of them pretty bad It's just it was just there was If you wanted to do it in a textbook way like if it was a conspiracy that's how I would do it I'd isolate people make them stay at home take away the livelihood make them scared give them small checks You know get and then give them this thing that you got to take to get back to normal want to get back to normal Yeah, go take that don't worry safe and effective safe and effective safe and effective And then you have all this pressure and everyone is yelling at you if you don't do it If you don't do it, we're not gonna get back to normal and everybody got scared and everybody just Stepped in line.

49:47It was strange. It's strange. Yeah, it was um You know Stepping in line sometimes is not the way to go. No, it's not always the way to go is You know, you're trying to prevent And try to make things all smooth and easy and no issues and And back to normal and all that and The world might be back to normal, but are you right normal? Well, you got to be able to make informed decisions Yes, and when you can't make an informed decision you're being pressured anyway. It's like what what do you how long and this is the thing It was driving me crazy before the election All when Donald Trump was president all they were talking about is I'm not gonna take the shot You're gonna take a shot that Trump made who's gonna take that shot even Biden was saying it Well, who's gonna take it?

50:42Kamala Harris is saying they were all saying it don't take that I would never take that And then all sudden Biden becomes president. No, you got to take it Like is this the same thing? This is the same thing. You know long it takes to develop a vaccine This is the same vaccine same one you guys were just talking shit and You know no matter who tried to give it to you at the end of the day It wasn't ready. It's not ready. You know six months To try to turn this thing into something effective um That was totally, you know, experimental totally experimental um and everybody who Who took it was was basically signing up to take an experimental drug um And I'm not anti -vax.

51:29I've been vax before like lead to have vaccines Um, they have out all of them and everyone I was supposed to get Exactly, uh, but those have been Some been around 80 years. Some yeah 50 40 Uh -oh and I just wasn't comfortable After six months. I was ready to take it the UFC allocated 150 vaccines I think for all their employees and this is when we're doing shows during the lockdown Yeah, so we'd go there's a covid bubble you get tested you get tested the day of the event And I was there and they said oh, we got the vaccines. You want to take it? I said, yeah, so I I called up the doctor. I said, hey man, can I take it and they and they said yeah Hold on.

52:09Well, we'll set it up. I was gonna take it like before the show. I thought it was just like a flu shot Get me that thing. It's normal, right? And they call me up and they say no, we can't do it until Monday Uh, we have to it has to be done at the clinic. Can you can you go on Monday? I said I can't I go but I'll be back for another event two weeks Okay, we'll do it then and during that time it got pulled During the time it got pulled for blood clots and two guys I knew had strokes two guys on it. Wow Yeah, wow and that I was like okay, what is going and then my friend got it and got over it quick And I was like what's going on my real estate lady had it and she didn't even have any symptoms She tested positive twice and she's like well, I got an isolate, but I feel fine And I was like well, what is this is a death sentence or is this like how many people are asymptomatic?

52:53You find out like 65 percent of the people are asymptomatic like what the fuck is going on here? Yeah And then I knew some people that got it and got real the real sick But they were fat or they were out of shape or they had other problems Then I knew a few friends were real healthy that got it They got wrecked because they didn't take it seriously and they kept working out So there was a lot of confusion. Yes, and you know, I was a lot a lot of fear But when I finally got it and I got over quick and then they started attacking me for taking a horse medication I was like what the fuck is going on?

53:24Shouldn't you be more interested in the fact that this deadly disease hit this 55 year old dude And he was better in three days isn't that more interesting like why don't you ask what I took? Yeah, why did I get better? What is it yeah? I wasn't vaccinated Yeah, I wasn't vaccinated, but I got over it quick So what's wrong with that in any other fucking rational sane world when there's a disease and someone Goes to a doctor and gets medication for that disease and gets better in three days You go oh, well, that's a way to get better from that disease Yes, it's this one singular thing that you have to do that I can't even do now because I already have antibodies Like this is stupid.

54:03It's crazy and you know the thing is is When money is the driving force and You know, I don't know if they can even get money off of what you took You know, I mean it seems like something's been around for a long time That's one of the things I took and and there's no money in it right no new money in it. Yes, so I'm on in it So that's really what it's all about, you know, it's not about if it work or if it's effective. It's about They can't make no money off of it and we got this new stuff that we can make billions so that's where the pressure comes from and that's why they pushing it that's why you have to think for yourself because Money is driving these people to Give you bad advice or give you the wrong advice or or the high um You know solutions and cures and remedies from you and and um You know, you got to When once you peep that out you have to take a step back and make sure that you're You're following the money to make sure it's not Come it's just so hard to do in the middle of a pandemic That's why it was so hard because everybody was just like locked in their house and scared Especially in California the the attitude in California was so much different than the attitude here We came to Texas.

55:31I'm like, doing hasn't fucking mascot. This is crazy. Yeah, which is out normal Yeah, Cali they went crazy with it You know, I was using the mask really to as a disguise So Finally walked through here and nobody asked for a selfie You know, I mean cool So you know, I kind of like I got the mask in my pocket for that too, you know, I mean popping on Airport, it's just a disguise now. Yeah, well finally you could wear a mask Yeah, the other time and that's what I tripped off to I was like they letting all these people stand around In these stores walking through these stores with a face cover Yeah, and banks.

56:10Yeah, yeah, exactly When is a guy just gonna pull out a pistol and they're like, I don't know they all have masks We don't know who it was because a man who's that mask man? What's happening so often in New York City? They made people take their masks down when they went into stores they made that a rule so that the camera can get a shot of your face Lord, it's so stupid It's so stupid. I'm supposed to keep this on to protect everybody Well, and then they they found out real early that it didn't even work They knew early that those things were bullshit, but it was a it was a thing that it gave you to comply with Yeah, and it's also you did it so you didn't feel like an asshole If everybody had a mask on you didn't you felt like an asshole's like, I'll put a mask on Yeah, and you know people were looking at you like You're the one spreading all the COVID around here.

56:54Yeah. Yeah. Yeah It was crazy Um, I Know a guy got sick wearing the mask Like he had just cloth mask that he just felt it was The thing I was gonna protect them. I'm like, dude, you're breathing in and like wash that thing. Yeah Now say you breathing that you I don't know what you breathe you breathing in last weeks You know bad breath. Yeah fat burger Like do you know, I'm saying take that off your face. Yeah, you wouldn't want that on a wound You know, right? You know a dirty ass rag over a cut It's breathing through it all day every day getting right in your bloodstream. Yeah, you smoking weed through that thing Yeah, it was just weird.

57:43This is a weird time. I saw that you would you'd have to pass out a movie because they wanted you to get shot. Yeah You know they Strangest thing, you know Say we're doing the movie we're doing the movie um I'm like, okay, and then um All the producers In Hollywood decided that They don't want anybody on their movie set That haven't gotten a vaccine and what year was this? This is 2020 Okay, so it's in the middle of it. Yeah, um, I mean we're coming out of it I think it might be 21 when we know okay everything is going back to normal, but It didn't the I believe the news came out um 2020 and so You know, I never thought it was a producers mandate, you know, I thought it was a studio mandate But I think the studios really Wanted to have you know kind of a little out so they put it on a producer like this is not us This is This production that production this production that production.

58:59I'm like, but it's every production So you mean tell me every producer in Hollywood has this mandate Give me a break Has to come from the studio to hit every producer because every producer don't think the same like right every some producers You know um Had their own different opinions. So anyway, it was a studio mandate. They put it on individual producers. So Produces talk to my people and they like if you don't take it, you know, we he can't be in the movie and say it's not taking it It's not taking it So I okay can't do the movie. Okay, no problem Now I didn't go out telling everybody what happened I didn't um Put the word out that I didn't even tell people that I wasn't vaccinated.

59:51I didn't tell people Not to go get vaccinated. I didn't tell people that I'm not doing this movie because I don't want to be vaccinated But somehow some way The news hit the you know, I don't know if Hollywood reporter or somebody put it out that This is why I cube is not doing the movie and I thought it was chicken shit. Thought it was you know It's like what happened to the hippo laws, you know or oh sure one of them I forgot I think it's hippo. You know, where you not supposed to to reveal A person's medical status and here it is they print in mind um, and so I just thought it was bullshit and um and It's just kind of snowball, you know, I'm like What they want is for people to tell me I'm stupid You know, I mean they want people to tell me You turning nine you turning down nine million dollars you're stupid You know, I'll do anything for nine million dollars how stupid can cube be um and I don't care about that You know, it's like I didn't lose nine million dollars Because I never had it like if you never have some shit you don't you can't lose it okay You lose it when it's in your bank account and then you look up and it's gone You know, I'm saying but if you never had it, I didn't lose it.

1:01:17It just was never given to me and so You know they they tried to you know put my business in the street Put pressure on me everybody around me tell me how stupid I am so I can go get Vax to say, you know Please let me do the movie, you know, that was never gonna happen. I don't care if it was 20 million Um, that was never gonna happen And if you got injured from that vaccine you would have paid that 20 million to be healthy again Damn right, damn right. Yeah, damn right. There's a lot of people out there They wish they they weren't forced into making that decision and that's where the real lawsuits are gonna come from the real lawsuits And since you can't see the vaccine companies They're gonna start suing these businesses and they're already lining up without a doubt without a doubt It was a gigantic error and and there You know, they they fired a lot of people.

1:02:08You know, I think they fired a lot of Um, if I don't come to New York and they had to hire them back And give them back pay and give them back pay, but What about the ones that were injured that took the Vax? Yeah, you know, they gotta have some kind of repercussion because you know They they just proved that They just kind of told on they self that we got this wrong. Yeah, and nobody wants to talk about it That's the crazy thing because all the nobody can You know, that's when I'm talking about the gatekeepers nobody can talk about it because Somebody above them told them no um From this outlet that outlet You know the NBA going back to that, you know, I'm just Kind of putting it in perspective, but the guys in the NBA used to talk about the big three if you go back to year one All the time and then they just stop and then I ask You know, I asked my guy, you know, um, what happened man why y 'all stop They told us we couldn't mention the big three anymore on air So I'm like, that's chicken shit.

1:03:25You know, that's that that's that bullshit that I'm talking about there that You know I'm talking about what happened to me, but it obviously happens everywhere to all of us You know what I mean and and we got to Somehow some way get these people out of our way or um Not support what they're doing and producing um You know some of these mainstream outlets are really just an extension of these corporate conglomerates who want to you know kind of Control our emotions control our movement control our Spanning control our personalities control our mind um and You know what we're gonna do about it like at the end of the day, you know, I'm saying like We're gonna just sit here and Let it happen day after day till we're steam road and and and um war out and Have no fight in us or we gonna Stand up where we can You know, I mean and push back when we can I know everybody can't in all situations and don't feel bad when you can But when you can and you know you can do it.

1:04:58Yes do it like when you have the leverage take it Yeah, take it like like you have to see when you got the leverage you gotta go. Yeah use that to your advantage You might not always have the leverage you might not always have you know the right timing But when you do when you can we we gotta we got a buck Buck back, you know um If not we're just gonna continue to get steam road and not be heard and Canceled and all this kind of stupid stuff. Yeah, we're just repeating patterns that have played out throughout history Yes, when people get power they want to have ultimate power. They want more power the any obstructions they see to their goals any Things that people were doing that would get in the way they want to silence that stop that's They want to bust unions.

1:05:53They want to do whatever the fuck they can to consolidate their power Yeah, and it's uh at a certain point is just ridiculous. Yeah, and um was not good for all of us Some of the most unhappy people in the world Who it's just consigned with more and more power and their powerful, you know when have you saw a guy who was Maxing out You know bench press or whatever and blew out of shoulder like lunchtime It's like you was maxed out the last time you maxed out. Why are you Trying to max out even more and more and more and more and then you blot your shoulder So I'm saying so at a certain point you gotta know when you got enough for this and enough for that I think the money people though they never think that way because it's all about number Like the whole thing is numbers.

1:06:51It's not like look. I put out a new album look. I put out a new movie I'm a creating a thing. I'm putting together stuff for them. It's always numbers It's all numbers. It's just numbers and so you never feel satisfied and there's always a guy with a bigger jet There's always a guy with a bigger house. There's always a guy with more of this more of that and Yeah, yeah, and Usually, you know, you can find happier people with way way way less Yes, yeah, if your goal is happy that is not the occupation. You should be in that's not yeah those people are miserable Yeah, and they're always chasing and now Never satisfied, you know that to me is Torture in itself Well, it's also stupid and if and if you run into corporation It's actually your obligation your obligation to your shareholders to continue to make as much money as possible So you're trapped in a system that obligates you to behave and think that way And if you don't you won't be competitive Yeah, it's uh It's a ugly game, you know, and and I will see Where where people are being thought about in these type situations, you know, it's all about you know capital don't care Yeah capital has no emotions Capital only respects capital.

1:08:10Yeah, the only time it respects people's opinions is when people boycott shit And it works like this bud light thing. Yeah, then and now people like don't do that again. Yeah, like be careful Because look what happen to bud light well Who controls bud light that's the question why would they make a dumb decision like that? Are they trying to ruin bud light and why would they want to ruin bud light are they trying to take down some of our most iconic American brands and why would that help I don't think they're trying to Had any idea this was gonna happen This is a ESG thing that everybody has to dedicate a certain amount of their time to You know woke stuff who who man who mandates that it's a good question.

1:08:57Where's the ESG money come from is that government Like where does that come from and it's they they have scores and the the ESG score of your corporation Determines what you get and the problem is also you get these people that are coming out of college like this This lady who made the decision for bud light You know she's gone to the university system She's in the corporate system and she's a woman and she thinks you know We have to be more inclusive and that's all the language everyone's using today So they don't know any real people they don't know regular people They have no idea that if you take a brand bud light which is like known for You know blue collar drinking people that they like the fucking watch football and drink bud light and then all of a sudden you have this Mentally ill person who's just an attention whore and you make a big deal out of putting this person 365 days of womanhood you put that on a bud light can and they freak the fuck out Yeah, and then kid rock shoots a bunch of them and then it's all once kid rock shoots your cans you got real problems.

1:09:57Yeah I'm pretty sure you do Yeah, man, it's kind of like I think you got it You got to still ask why Like what you think is like a conspiracy? Well, you know Who's getting hurt Who's getting hurt in this whole thing is it the bud light um And how's the bush brass or eight are with their bonuses be affected with their checks and salaries be affected got this lower level person fired and bunch of middle class guys are paying the price because You got distribution centers, you know guys that deliver the beard nobody want and now they're out of a job now You're really attacking the middle class By by making a brand that's so big um Take a hit like that, you know the quickest destruction of a company in history bud light sponsors Toronto pride parade So you know it's um oh There's a when was this those just the other day.

1:11:12Oh, they're so silly They lean and then do it. I would choose the gays are mad at them The the pride people are mad at them because they didn't support Dylan Mulvaney so they they like kicked it Okay, you don't win you know either way at the end of the day, but um You know i think about the companies that own these companies the people that own these companies and why would they Let a decision like that take the company down. I don't think they thought it was going to I think this is a legitimate public outrage one where they just pushed too far and people in foggy And it wasn't even like a real Like promotion it was a thing they sent a can to this person is Dylan Mulvaney person But I don't think it went anywhere else.

1:11:57I think it was just like here This is for you and you put it on social media. They made some sort of a partnering deal You know and that was it So why target do the same thing? Well, I think that's an ESG thing. That's an ESG thing right And target lost billions of dollars too because people people are sick of this shit There's sick of Social things like that that are controversial getting stuffed into your face and where you have to accept it Yeah, people like I don't want to accept it. It's just like just coming here for fucking toilet paper Yeah, I think you know People got to keep it in perspective as well too, you know, I don't think people Grab a beer to be so I mean the To you know to learn about the newest social of that already the social situation going out right grab a beer Because you want to be a hang with your buddies or hang you know with people that enjoy beer and y 'all shoot the shit and Politics really shouldn't be in somebody's beer mug, you know, they just don't get it They think it has to be in everything everybody because of social media everybody feels like they're fighting some sort of social battle with everything they do And you know, and this is one is another one.

1:13:06It's like it's like force compliance you have to your force to comply with this and you know, it's Fucking up women sports in a huge way in a huge way and you know Some organization are pushing back against that and some people are pushing back against the organizations that are pushing back against it Which to me is insane like if you care at all about biological women, you should be against that What I mean what if like LeBron said he wanted to plan the death of NBA I'm retiring from the NBA because I'm 49 and I'm gonna play in the WWE Well, they wouldn't be able to stop it if he just decided to say publicly identify as a woman What are they gonna do they can't do anything and then that would be the end Dave's propell is a bit about it Wow scores 100 again tonight Well, there was some fucking knucklehead that was getting interviewed They said if Mike Tyson died down and fired as a woman should he be able to fight women and they're like well the short answer is yes Lord It's so crazy.

1:14:14Yeah, it's okay There's also different specifications. It's like what you have to do and how long you have to take hormones before you can identify as a woman and compete as a woman like Just fucking stop me. Who's gonna check on it? Yeah, there's a reason why this women sports There's a reason why this men sports and it's we're you're not talking about who you are or what your truth is live your truth I mean title nine just got You know what's just tearing with? 30 or yeah something like that, you know me so protecting women sports. Yeah, yeah, which is which is great because they forces schools and you know they make a lot of money you know teaching whatever they teach in them schools and they should carve out some for women to be able to Play for their school, you know, that's great and um So I don't understand you Know sometimes things don't make crazy man sense they won't they don't make crazy man sense.

1:15:12I just back out Stop thinking about it. Yeah, it's probably a good move because you're not gonna solve it I mean if people I think ultimately it gets solved where people just don't accept it anymore and then hopefully it'll go I mean maybe they could just develop a transgender league or trans people play against trans people that would be But you can't pretend you're a biological female just because you wish you were Like you can't pretend when it comes to women's sports you can't pretend when it comes to women's rights issues It's like that that's not this is this you don't want men dominating that because that's what it is It's men entering to women's spaces Yeah, and whether they're ultimately they identify as a woman.

1:15:55That's great But you physically you're a biological male Yeah, yeah, and you want to compete against them. You want to play rugby against women? Get the fuck out of here Get the fuck out of here. That's crazy. Now they want to dominate. They want to dominate. There's a lot of that They want to be winners. Yeah, yeah falls sudden you give me a woman in a winner and just fucking kick everybody's ass Yeah, you know how you used to like play the kids in basketball like they ate yeah, it's a shack out here You just shack yeah Is the ultimate sandbagging, you know, it's like you know you have a giant advantage Like the one that drove me the craziest was the MMA fighter.

1:16:37Yeah, because that person became a woman For two years and then started competing as women And not telling them and saying it was a medical issue. It's I don't have to disclose a medical condition like No, no, no, no, that's not what that is If they if that person said that they were a woman and and competed against women That's deception. That's a fucking lie But if you said your biological male the women still want to fight you okay? All good Yeah, you know It's tricky man. It's like a slippery slope. Yeah, you know, they really starts to Give bizarre after a while, you know, because where does it?

1:17:17Where does it um actually In at the end of the day, you know, yeah What does somebody say I don't I don't identify as Black I want to be another color. Yeah purple Unpurple Would you laugh at me you get purple you laugh them a cancel your ass you laugh at me because I'm purple Yeah, that's basically yeah, well, we you know, you might as well, you know, I'm I'm a chicken dinner I'm macaroni and cheese. I'm rice I'm the rolls. Yeah, you know, I'm a chicken dinner man. Yeah, I identify this people identifies younger people So it's like the whole it is a slippery slope Yeah, cuz people can You know people always can be extreme stuff like that their extreme I think keep pushing boundaries and they're pushing boundaries on the age of consent now, which is crazy You know, there's um there's people that are also pushing back against Call people pedophiles Missing you should call them minor attracted persons man come on.

1:18:34It's insane. I mean you're getting academics that are saying this It's insane Yeah, it is is you know, it's it's Borderline madness somewhere almost there. Yeah, well, it's the end of an empire. Yes, and you know This is guy Douglas Murray. He's his English British intellectual and he said that every time a civilization is close to collapsing they become obsessed with gender It happened with ancient Greeks the Romans. It's just like some weird thing that happens when everything is just going too good And life is too easy people get obsessed with The weirdest things and now we're obsessed with gender It's the beginning of the end.

1:19:16Stay tuned. Yeah, who knows. I mean, maybe we'll bounce back You know Get a good president in there, you know, turn it around Yeah You know, I'll put a lot on the president I don't put a lot on the president I wonder what would happen if Robert Kennedy Jr. got in there Very interested to see what happens with that guy. Yeah, you know, he's uh You know, he's he's him like a guy who At least is down the deep dive. Yeah, and talk real and and You know really try to Dissect what's really going on instead of just going with the herd Which would be easy for him to do like go to the herd You know he Maybe you know Even the head more or he may even be doing better, you know when they pull Think he like 20 % of people or something.

1:20:22Yeah, he'd probably be doing better. Probably doing better and you know instead of You know, maybe Be one of the one of the guys and so by him going this route it's uh Seems Like he's on a more noble route and we just check him out and see how he Navigates some of this stuff. He's definitely on a more noble route And it's definitely not something he planned to do initially. I mean he was an environmental attorney He was a guy that cleaned up the Hudson River. They would go after these corporations They were dumping toxic waste and and that was his thing was a mercury in the water and and you know Trying to hold the corporations accountable and then these women started showing up every time he would speech Give these speeches and they said we want you to look at the mercury and vaccines.

1:21:11Yeah, and so this is 18 years ago and so for 18 years this guy's been saying All this stuff about environmental concerns and that was what his whole thing was and then he wasn't until COVID came along And then he wrote that book the real Anthony Fauci detailing, you know What it is that these people are actually doing and how they are engineering these viruses and they they give grants and it's It's getting dangerous gain a function research and then they give you one medication that you have to take and everybody gets on board With it and they're making fucking billions of dollars. Yes, and no one's talking about what he's saying and he's saying it in a well -informed way And he's expressing it to people like this is this is the playbook they always use and they just use it on everybody look He's dealing with the same people we probably all are dealing with and and it's really time for us to really um Come on with a with a plan on how we gonna deal with this because it's just gonna continue to happen Yeah, it's just gonna continue to happen, you know, I don't have all the answers um But I think we need to collectively start to You know, not just give give a pass to people doing things like this um and You know we got major outlets that's not To live in the right message to the people Not delivering the right message um Basically staring them the way that You know these super rich people want us to go um and it's not cool No, it's not and I'm hoping people wake up enough to at least slow it down Because Yeah, we're pushing in a very obvious and very specific direction They want digital currency centralized digital currency that they control And they want to get everybody on a social credit score system and they'll probably connect it to some sort of a vaccine app Or if you want to travel around all they would need is another pandemic to try to push that shit through And they're already talking about that It's very spooky because when you look into the history of this this lab and Them funding it and this getting out and the way they responded to it The whole thing is so scary because it was effective.

1:23:35It was effective and very very Financially effective. I mean they made a lot of fucking money Yeah, and if they could do something similar again and then clamp down more on people That's what scares me this this talk of centralized digital currency. That's what they have in China If they if you fuck up in China and you get a bad social credit score Because you tweeted something they didn't like what now you can't buy a plane ticket Now you can't buy a car now you can't get alone now you can't do something You you step the fucking line and people self -censor They don't want to be a part of that now they got you.

1:24:09Yeah, they got you want yourself sensor. Yeah Got you where where they want you. Yeah, we know that they were involved in Twitter We know that the government was involved in silencing different voices You know, they stopped that hunter -biden laptop store from getting out before the election. It's just It's so obviously dirty shit. I did a record called everything's corrupt and It is when you really look around. Yeah, it's like Where is the Where is the people that's doing the right thing? Yeah, you know, where they at have you thought about doing anything with politics? No, I would never I would never do nothing with politics like is anybody trying to pressure you?

1:24:54What you mean like you should run for mayor I tell my my ready to marry Only thing I would do I was I said uh king me, you know just Only thing I would accept is they turn you into a king time into a king President and politician beggin -ass politician hmm uh Powerless puppet oh no, oh no Oh, no, you know, I talked to one guy who actually spends the money that the government allocates so You know that crime grays say this industry is gonna get this many billions um, it's up to him to say where that money goes and I'm like well how often do you talk to people at congress? He said never Said they can't even get me on the phone I'm like what say you know me said these people can't even get me on the phone man.

1:26:00I don't listen to them You know, I mean, I just tell him where the money got to go wow, so he gets to decide You know, he's part of The government that you know when they allocate the money It goes to these different agencies and departments and and then they allocate Where it goes? They can't spend any of it so they can't Take it right can spin it and then they could develop relationships with the people that give them money. Yeah, so um so you know The people in congress are to me actually parlors. They're just theater At the end of the day. Well, the theater who also gets the inside trade. Yeah, that's the beautiful thing Exactly.

1:26:48I mean, they know where that money's going. Yeah, you know, I mean, they might not be able to touch it But they can be on the other end and make sure You know their investments are carved out and they make a pretty penny offer Well, not only that they do it openly front of everybody It's not illegal and every time people call to to ban it they were like Nancy Pelosi's like what now? Yeah, we are We're not gonna do that Why would we do that? Yeah, ladies are a $200 million. She makes 200 grand a year She's better at stock trading than Warren Buffett and George Soros. Yeah, why wouldn't she be? She know we're all body.

1:27:27I mean, she know where everything is gonna hit It's crazy. What's going to hit when it's going here? Yeah, and how much is going to hit for and unless that's illegal Fuck you like like fuck your whole system exactly cuz you know, um, it's easy to You know it's easy to corrupt these people You know, I mean, it's so how money? Did you ever think you would have to think about it so much though Like I didn't think about this so much like 10 15 years ago Um, well, I always have my kind of You know every sense, you know, people like tip or gorg come after you. Oh, yeah, you pay attention to where the shots are being fired, you know, so Before then just a little you know sitting my pops would look at the news and yell at the screen You know, I mean that's how that's how I know what was bullshit and what was real, you know, cuz and then You know, I started doing my thing and then like The law the FBI, you know, all these agencies started to come down on us Really scared to shit out after record company cuz we wasn't we could care less like We was like The day we got the FBI letter What was the FBI letter?

1:28:50We got FBI letter. They sent the letter to priority records saying they one guy was like I'm you know Part of this department at FBI and we're very concerned with this record car straight out of compton You guys got a song on there called fuck the police and we think this song could encourage um, you know, um people to go against law enforcement blah blah lesson blah blah that and um Basically, you know, we'd like it if you guys Took it off to shelf, you know, I'm saying to that tip. So You know, they call us up there, you know, they panic and We don't know why he wants to come. He's like, man.

1:29:36You gotta come over. We gotta talk to you Get up there and it's like pull out this letter FBI And we're like It's like man, do you know what to say is fucking agent He sent me this letter and you know, they was all like nervous and shit and we're looking like a letter That's all you get they're not gonna come in here and try to fuck with it's like they're not gonna You know, I mean Arrest us cuff us rough us up none of that and we're like y 'all scared over a fucking letter Come back Come back to South Central with us, you know, I mean deal with the shares down there, you know, I mean they do way more Than give you a letter so we felt that it was like You know easy was like we gonna be biggest fuck after this and And but but the guys at the record company this was the first time they ever dealt with like pushback First time the government probably even knew they existed so they were freaked out and we uh We were like Okay, we was looking for them to raid our houses and shit like damn because we We've not seen the battle ram when I'm seeing them run up in people houses on Dove charges or whatever, you know, especially in the late 80s early 90s.

1:30:55That's like they Got a kick out. It's just running up in people houses and shit. So um We were like looking for that to come for the in the next you know next few weeks We was looking like oh they bought the his and it never happened. So we was like What's the what's the issue? What's the problem? So it was just that letter and that was it just that letter and then we made the letter public and They kind of just backed off and shit and it was became this big story of You know the FBI hates this group. I think we was on the cover like One of those, you know, New York magazines and it was like The FBI hates this group.

1:31:38Yeah, look at this. Yeah, the FBI hates this man Yeah Easy was right. Yeah, he was that's the letter wow Look at that a song recorded by the rep group and WA on their album and titled straight out of Compton encourages violence and disrespect for law enforcement officer and has been brought to my attention I understand your company recorded and distributed this album and I am writing to share my thoughts and concerns with you advocating violence and assault is wrong and we in law enforcement community take the exception to such action Violent crimes and major problem in our country reached an unprecedented high in 1988 78 law enforcement officers were feloniously slain in the Fologianously slain the line of duty during 1988 for more in 1987 law enforcement Officers dedicate their lives to protection of our citizens and recording such as the one from NWA are both discouraging and degrading to these brave dedicated officers Music plays a significant role in society and I'd want you to be aware the FBI's position relative to this song and its message I believe my reviews reflect the opinion of the entire law enforcement community Huh, yeah, never methods dude.

1:33:04No, never interesting Yeah 1988 was a different world and that was the first that was like the the first Moment of that where the you know we had heard that like the government and politicians were concerned about rap music without a doubt um and then it just You know, they didn't come after me, but all these other different agencies was starting to hit us up and You know, they were going They start going after ice tea, you know a little bit because he Body count did a song called cop killer and um Yeah, you know, it was it was uh It was a time when we grew up real fast. We had to understand that You know, this is bigger than hip -hop And we got a we got to stand up for what we know is true and right It's like we not making shit up, you know, let's go down, you know I've seen guys tell cops, you know, I mean take off that gun take off that badge and we can Could knuckle it up in the streets and do it like men and um So, you know, we knew that sentiment was out there where people was really like, yo um If you're not going if you're going to act like a thug, you know, I'm saying let's thug it out You know, I'm saying or you're going to act like an officer Then we'll we'll you know um You know We'll respect your authority.

1:34:36You see what I mean? So it was a lot of cops that we respected that came through That and they would treat us like, you know Real humans, you know, not like, you know Suspects You know, I mean, you know, I want to buy come through just treating like a suspect you ain't out here doing nothing These do's uh, so we know some do's that would come through and talk to us tell us, you know, you I need to watch out be careful, you know, I'm saying and you know, do anybody know something that happened around the corner and all these little stuff and we like No, no, no, but they was respectful and and we respected their authority then there was others that would come through, you know, look at your crazy Uh, rash you You know, we was kids on the bikes.

1:35:19We saw one day they came like eight nine years old, man We don't have bikes got a bike slay down. We made a ramp. We all kicking on the grass resting looking at our bikes Like their fucking motorcycles and shit. You like, you know, and um Man sheriffs hit to get the corner came all up on the grass and like Get against the car all that, you know bullshit But you know, we kids they know we kids sitting on bikes, man. What what you think we did You know, I'm saying like roll on some like grass I mean, what you think we are here to Yeah, yeah, so what was it like when the album came out like interactive at cops Most almost cool actually so most like most of them said they listened to the song um In the movie we get ran out of Detroit like they ran us off stage because we sung the song A lot of undercover police, you know throwing in 80s and shit on the stage.

1:36:20Yeah, so we thought they were shooting at us So we run off they catch us They round us up You know, they like Thought she was gonna come to Detroit, right talking that cop. I mean that um fuck the police shit and Can't come through Detroit talking that we should run y 'all the chill, you know, I mean we should lock y 'all up And blah blah blah and we like listening we listening and he said um But If y 'all got a couple of pictures y 'all got a couple a by ten y 'all signing for my daughter We ain't gonna have no problems. So You know, we was pissed, but we was like man Easy was like get in t -shirts get them everything they need come on come on come on come on And so you know, we signed the shit, you know reluctantly, you know, man, but the concert's over Yeah, they they they turned the concert out.

1:37:14Yeah, I mean they they ran us off stage after Three songs and they got pictures and then they got pictures and they got autographs for their daughters and they let us go They just say you can't come to Detroit with that bullshit. Wow. So it was only Detroit. That was the only place that fucks Cincinnati they ran us off really man, they would they would they would uh Have us they would they before every concert the Asargent or captain or somebody would come in with a city ordinance Of what was obscene in their city and their town and what could be said on stage and what couldn't be said And if you say any it is or doing it is we will arrest you after your performance.

1:37:58Wow Like what words I mean fuck motherfucker really um oh my god. Yeah, it was the 1950s again. Yeah, it was like on that tip um wow and This is 88 around that 88 89 wow and we hit the stage We like man. We were told audience You know what these motherfuckers told us backstage They said we couldn't say fuck we couldn't say shit. We couldn't say this we couldn't say bitch You know what I mean and we gonna start this off with a bitch is a bitch You know so um We would do our shows, you know sometimes they would just let us go And then sometimes you would like after the show you'd have to look and see the look and Like the security and everybody facing you knew okay.

1:38:47They honest. So Many of times We we we come off stage But then we like switching jackets like people handing you jackets handing you different shirts and shit So you can put them on and walk through the backstage because now cops was like Where where where they at you know, where those guys that was on stage and um and since the 90 I had to I saw him coming I saw him all like looking around and I didn't have a chance to change my shit So they was looking for me and so I hit the exit. I just I went outside I went outside the concert And there was people like flowing in and out and uh It was like you what you doing out here.

1:39:33I said man. They looking for me He's like I jumped in the car with him like fans of sheds jumping across him They drove me across the bridge just to uh Kansas. I mean uh Kentucky is right across from Cincinnati We sitting in waiting for anybody to Drive up nobody drove up and they ended up driving me back to the hotel And then you got easy and drake What the fuck was you where'd you go man? We all got citations and we got to come back You didn't want us to fly back here to go to court and they couldn't get they was looking for you They couldn't catch. I was like man. I did I did And I'm a dip again next show You know what I'm saying it was it was crazy um did you have to go back to go back to court Yeah, I had to go back to court and fight it and what happened I don't remember because I ended up leaving the group And leaving the groups so I don't really know what happened kind of after 89 with everybody, you know Wow, what a wild time.

1:40:34It's crazy Crazy but fun like we were living the time of our lives because We never knew we was going to be this popular throughout the country we thought the records that we did were Just local, you know, we was going to be you know hood stars, you know, I mean right there in our neighborhood People's gonna love us but outside of Compton South Central Long Beach Watts We were like, you know people they're not even gonna know what we're talking about right Little did we know that everybody was kind of going through the same things and we were going through That's so wild So what like what was it like when it blew up?

1:41:21I mean that had to be for you to be a young guy in this You know hip hop just in general was relatively new yeah, and for it to blow up that big That'd be a wild like change of your life. It was you know because you think You think you're only gonna be an underground artist like When before we sold our records Records like ours would be in the section with like the The red fox records and the rich of prior the Eddie Murphy the dirty, you know You know comedy dirty comedy records. That's where you would find These dirty hip hop records and there was a few, you know, um, it was a dude named um A blow fly blow fly would have songs called leh had a song.

1:42:10He got one of the song called rap dirty And like those kind of songs would be in this section and nobody Went to unless you just wanted to lie for something. So We thought our records were ended up there and that being and It just it just blew up MTV bandar straight out of Compton video and That blew the group up because People wanted to know why Did they do something that even MTV was scared to show and so we went from Thinking we were gonna be in that little bin to They put us in the fun of the record store and Promote that you can get straight out of Compton here. Wow, and so it just took us from You know that Back at the store stuff to prime real estate.

1:43:04How many records is straight out of Compton? So um I don't know the exact In figure but even that while I was still in the group was like Two million records and then it was just growing so by now It's got to be up to at least four wow That had to be a fucking crazy experience to not think that that was ever gonna happen and then Boom it was you know controversial band in America. We went from being straight locals to Like being everywhere matter fact I I went to school after I was in the group like I was like, you know, I can't I can't hang my hat on this. I'm not gonna be able to live You know, you know dirty rat records, you know, I'm saying can't play him on the radio You know only I underground people are gonna Hear it So I went off to a tray school Phoenix Arizona called uh Phoenix Institute of Technology Would you go to learn?

1:44:11Architecture was drafted. Really? Yeah, wow. Yeah, I took drafting in school and I dug it and Since I'm pamphling in the mail You know if you want more information fill this out little postcard. I filled it out I'm fucking showed up to my house and they're talking to my mother and father. I'm like what the hell You're gonna school I got a show. I know you're gonna school Like damn How long was that for a year wow? Yep. Yep. Fall up fall 87 to the um fall of 88 Wow, so he got out of trade school and then the album blows up. I mean We got out of trade school and then we was working on easy So I'm easy does is his solo album came out right before in w a And that really you know that blue Him up and we were along for the ride so when the nw a record came and he was part of the nwa group it just put a spotlight on on the group and then the record was crazy.

1:45:24So Just took it to the next level. What was your earliest emphasis in hip hop? um Curtis blow run DMC um Sugar Hill gang Rock him big daddy came busy my key Saw him pepper You know like the greats all the great uh Beastie boys LL cool Jay for sure, you know we loved LL LL was man always And so do you when was the first time you actually performed however you um, I was probably 15 Is that local thing? Yeah, well, you know we would do rap battles So we would go up to people's school and find out you know everybody didn't rap like like now everybody raps But back then it was like a niche group so We was we had honed our skills so we would go up to different high schools and Hopped defense and Nutrition and shit and like fine of spot and battle You know me so it was it was fun.

1:46:43I was like It was like a Karate master looking for us far, you know we walking around. It's like who go to that school? Who rap over there? Who over here? It's like miss Mto's in my school man. They can bus man. I should come up here You know, I was trying to set it up for Friday y 'all come up here Friday hit the fence You know we bus and then y 'all got to get out before you know, I mean the counselors come What I'm saying so we'd find ourselves going from different high schools. We would ditch our own school to go up To different schools and and rap against people, but um first time I really hit the stage we um We did this contest called the best rappers of the West contest and um we Enter our song and Man we we made it all the way to the finals They did the finals at the Olympic auditorium in LA That's what they used to do all the old wrestling matches and fights um, so they used to roll a derby there too um Thunderbirds and so We there we performed drake came you know drake was in the world class wrecking crew DJ crew, you know, so everybody our family friends And they messed up our tape like You know, our music was instrumental, but it was cassette And when they hit it it was in the wrong spot.

1:48:08They didn't rewind it. So We got it was off cue and then they had to rewind it and then start over The thrill was gone. We lost we lost we came in second place and so that was my first taste of You know hitting the stage. You knew that's what you wanted to do I loved it, you know, I had a great time. Yeah, I did and hanging with drake more and more You know, he saw us that night. He knew we had got kind of Robbed a little bit and he was like we'll let you we'll let your performance do those Which is the club he DJed in Compton. It's right down central, central avenue And um we went down there, you know, it's It's a party.

1:48:53I mean full of blood It's like full of Compton bloods pyrues all Through this place. This is right in a neighborhood And drake is like y 'all better be good You know better be good man. He's done. I don't know what they gonna do They might throw shit at you, you know I want to fuck you up y 'all better be good. That's all he kept saying so we were like damn We gotta take a song clever. We gotta be good. We gotta be good So we started doing parody wraps. We'll take the hit song and do a dirty version of it Roxanne Roxanne was the hit song that was out you tiffle and we we made a song called Diane Diane And it was dirty version of it.

1:49:38It went crazy and went crazy So we knew like oh damn this this is a style like we can We can do our own wraps Hardcore like this when I have to we don't have to uh Try to be you know Fat boys we can try to have to try to be uh, yeah, these we can just Give it to them. We're all how they want it talk about the neighborhood, you know, yeah, that's where we start doing So that's interesting like that so that sort of led to the way the band became doing that show Yeah, yeah, and doing that show We say I wasn't in NW. I have my own group so We start working with easy and NWA is actually an all -star group It's It's easy kind of plucking different people from different groups putting them together and saying we gonna make We're gonna huddle up and make these dairy records and then after we finish I can go back and make y 'all clean little records That's kind of how NWA was formed Wow So a grab Dre and yellow from wrecking crew they grabbed me.

1:50:57I was in a group called stereo crew We changed our name to CIA criminals in action, but Lanzel made us call ourselves crew in action because he was like nobody gonna buy a record Criminals So so and then you had easy, you know what I mean? So we formed NWA Rincum came later when I went to school. That's when Rinc came MC ran so Yeah, and then what happened is we do the record it blow up and everybody say Uh, Tuddy groups, amen This shit is popping in no way in the world We are going back to being Nobody in our groups, you know, I mean we got to run with this and it just I'm still running with it You're always known for your lyrics.

1:51:46You're a great writer like if you did you Always have that ability to you. Wait. Did you write before you wrote lyrics? Yeah, but you know What I what I did when I was young, you know The teachers would always ask like well, okay, what'd you do over someone vacation? Would you do right right down what you guys do so mine would be Thurall, you know, I would I would be able to really explain everything that I did and They were really impressed my teachers were impressed that I could Remember all that and put it in a comprehensive Form where they can read, you know my whole summer really and so by getting those kind of You know Extra credit for being good or you know teacher hanging stuff up there, you know, you like okay I can do this I can do this same with art You know and I actually they they have me do a speech Doing my sixth grade graduation like they asked me would you go up there and address the graduation class?

1:53:02so You know the writing at speech these things. I knew okay. I could I could put words together and I could speak them in front of a crowd and it wasn't a nightmare So when it was time to wrap and time to arrive Which was a couple years later when I was turning 14 then I was able to Put it together and feel like okay, I know how to write and I know how to wrap So jumping front of the crown keep busy That's amazing It's a that's that's so interesting that that's the genesis of your writing because it makes sense Because like your writing was always so thorough and well thought out, you know And when you went solo that was like very evident It was very evident like this is great fucking writing like the that the lyrics back then like that's my favorite era Yeah hip -hop is like early 90s late 80s early 90s like in the easy Coast like cool mo D.

1:54:02Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah prolific. Yeah Set the bar You know those guys started to set the bar higher and higher and You know you had to keep up to even get attention. So yeah, you know those early Pioneers of hip -hop even LL was you know amazing lyricists This Word Smith You know the original rock the bells. He's another guy's done everything. Yeah He's a movie's TV. I call him, you know the hip -hop LeBron, you know he He's been doing this since he was 15 at the highest level and never came down, you know, so that still looks great Yeah, still you know looks like Superstar. Yeah, so it's cool, you know to find you know to be friends with these guys that uh That I looked up to so much as a youngster That was a there was a weird time though the east coast versus the west coast shit.

1:55:04Yeah, very weird. Yeah it was um You know people equated to two pockets, yeah, I mean in and bad boy in defrault But it was actually bubbling before that it was to me Industry thing in a way like New York had to throw him for so long and here go well at least a decade more and here comes these west coast rappers, you know kind of taking attention away and so the The the industry people is started to bubble up with them that y 'all We're doing real hip hop. They're just doing gangster records, you know, and so that started to To kind of get into the artist, you know, I mean that that sentiment started to poison the artist and the artist named Tim dog Did a song called fuck Compton like out of nowhere?

1:56:10We was like damn we We like New York why y 'all you know why why he take a shot and Nobody really rebutted him like, you know, they kind of let it slide and then more and more artists are taking shots here and there and and then the thing with Bad boy and defrault It kind of just took it over the top It just made it because they were the hottest labels Yeah, the hottest label on the east coast battling with the hottest label on the west coast So that made that undecurrent Of animosity that was growing Blow all the way up and look like it was a feud Hmm, how did that ever get resolved? I think when When a two -pot got killed and then biggie was murdered shortly after people Realized this is a dead in road like People stopped listening really to east coast and west coast at that time and that's how the immersion of the South came Hmm, you know the south was there bubbling.

1:57:28They was doing anything. They had groups that were That was making a dent but at one point All the hip -hop fans were so fed up with the east coast west coast beef That they said, you know, we're just gonna pay attention to what the south is doing you guys kind of Hill your wounds and come back. Uh, and so that's the emergence of the south and You know all the groups that came out back then were you Were you touring on the east coast? Yeah, so what was it like when you were touring on the east coast in the middle of that shit? Um, I mean it was always love, you know, I mean some fans took sides, but most most of it was You know industry stuff and they were kind of caught in the middle so And I did a I did a record called you know bow down with the west side connection Which we addressed a lot of the beef because we felt like Most of the industry was in New York at the time.

1:58:31So We felt like we didn't stand up for ourselves in some way shape of form What we accomplished the last decade would be erased and eroded and dismissed discredited and We wouldn't we would be played out you know, I mean we wouldn't have longevity, right? So You know there was you know back and forths, but at the end of the day um You know two -park being killed biggie being killed Was just a wake -up call for the whole industry That's sad that that's how the wake -up call had to go It's crazy crazy. Yeah, I mean that was I remember I was a on news radio on the set of news radio when someone told me two -park are killed Everything and how is that possible?

1:59:25How's that real? Yeah, I Um Yeah, I just you know was a new day like it's like oh we We're in a new era where Celebrity means nothing You know celebrity means nothing anybody can get it. Yeah, so it's damn there like we back where we started from back in the hood You know trying not to get it and here your celebrity you can still get it How dangerous is that feel to you Back then You know no more dangerous than It feels when any of people you know any person I know get shot, you know it feels like you know damn You know There's never ends um I don't remember taking Anymore precaution then now usually would Um, but I know people you know some do's is getting bulletproof trucks and shit and bulletproof vans and All this stuff I was like now and going to that extent It's just a crazy time of music history too because you know, they'd never been like Rock bands that were fused with each other at the point where you were worried about people getting murdered No, not that I know of um You know, rock bands do fused They usually don't do disc records either right, right.

2:00:58You know, they just feud or they have subliminal subliminal dishes. It's never like the disc record thing was wild That was really the first time artists ever went after each other like that. Yeah, it's uh, but you know, it's it's like It's like spawn. It's like batten. It's like, you know, it's part of the game So it's welcomed in a way um You know you you spar you practice You know how to fight and then Somebody getting your face and challenge you like okay, this is what we do There's a rumble, you know, I'm saying so it's like you grow battling You know, you've got your rap should say your cocky shit, you know what I mean?

2:01:43And somebody want to you know put it on wax and battle Like we can battle on wax any day, you know, I'm saying so let's go for it When did it feel like for you all that shit sort of like went away Like the feud stuff the every when did it seem like it was just back to just making music um For some reason I think uh Like 9 -11 like that tragedy or 9 -11 For some reason and like It seemed like from then the feud and stopped and um People kind of reassessed and reorganized their thought process when it comes to that like they it was like That's when it seemed like a ceasefire just was The best thing to do because you know The Like the country went through a crazy shakeup.

2:02:48Yeah, yeah, and um It's a trip, you know, you had groups like You know rocking a rear -white and blue and he was like into you know um, you know patriotism and really uh into You know, uh, oh, you know, we got Other forces out there that's trying to take down New York City, you know, I mean we can't Can't be hating all right on New York after that like we all got to Band together that was the sentiment. It's crazy. It's sometimes it takes something like that like a a national tragedy to wake people up to What's really important? Yeah major shakeup So how the fuck did you go from N. W. A your solo career and then movies and Then family movies like was that was there like a resistance for that people like did you listen to his old shit?

2:03:53You know, I mean because people were taking their kids to see those movies and then those kids became ice cube fans And then they go into your old shit like wow Yeah, I mean, it's a great um It's kind of like you know They're caught in the ice cube vortex in the way you know sankas um Here's how it happened like I'm ended up in w a I go solo I'm just trying to be the best rapper in the world. That's all I'm concerned about and I meet This kid John singleton who's a intern. I meet him at the arsenal Hall show He's an intern there. I'm there to talk to our senile to say dude You had two live crew on Why don't you have in w a on so?

2:04:44Never had that conversation with our senile because John singleton is talking my ear off And he's like I'm a junior at USC. I'm put you in the movie. I'm like dude What I'm not an actor. You know me. I thought you had to go to julia for 18 years to be active So I'm like what what's talking about man now and then he pursued me two years dude two years He and then he finally said y 'all Um, I got the movie, you know, we're gonna do it and and so that was boys in the hood So he discovered me that's how I got into movies and When we doing that movie he said when you're gonna write a movie Like what Dude, what are you talking about why you keep hitting me with this Stuff that I don't do you say man.

2:05:41You can write a song like that. You can write a movie like that I'm like, okay, I go by a computer that same day and Final drive, which is a script writing and I start writing a script like Don't know one thing about writing a script just start writing one and it was terrible, but he helped me He just kept telling keep writing keep more pages just keep going till you finish it and Um long story short And a few years later writing Friday, okay Friday 1995 comes out big cult classic um So As I as the years go on Got these little kids coming to me doing all these Custom lines from Friday I'm like what's your little ass doing watching Friday, you know, so So I did I did another movie called barbershop now that's already comedy Friday So I do barbershop.

2:06:48It's Good reaction people love it It's PG 13 So the movie is bigger because it It's appeals to a bigger audience um So I'm like damn we was able to work it at ready or we have a to work it at PG 13 What if I did a PG movie? Because I still got little kids coming to me talking about you got knocked the fuck out Seven I need to do something for your little seven -year -old ass so you don't Have to go watch Friday, you know what I mean? You should be watching Friday when you get about 11 12 not seven so I was like, you know, I was with revolution uh, Joroff over revolution and he was like yo We got this movie that Adam Sandler was gonna do, but he can't do it Will you take a look at it?

2:07:46I see yeah, I take a look at it and it was already did are we there yet I'm like, oh, this is a kids movie, you know, it's like yeah, that's okay. I I think I can you know tell her make it where it fits me But yeah, let's give it a try and We do it and of course everybody go ape shit like Cube you gangster. What you doing these kids movies for what's wrong with you? What the hell's going on man? You don't got some all this stuff. They was talking right so Movie comes out and kids like lose their mind. They love the movie. So now This is the vortex right They come in they love are we there yet?

2:08:30five six seven eight By the time they get 10 or 11 somebody done Show them barbershop or maybe Friday Day So they they they love me from are we there yet now they love me from Friday and then somebody says Listen to this and hands them on music when they get about 15 14 and they say I love this guy and I got fans all ages who love ice cube because they've been Like walked up from are we there yet To barbershop to Friday to my music which is a whole different animal This I don't think there's anybody else like that that has that varied of a career Um, I don't know I haven't thought about it, but it's it's pretty Cool and dynamic, you know, I know I met your daughter.

2:09:32She 27. Yeah, and First thing she was exposed to was a whole new day yet. Yeah, she's a fan. You know, I'm saying so That movie was a way to Stay connected to the younger generation always without the parents saying do you know who this is right? This is ice cube he used to be blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah now the kids know who I am before the parents even Have to point it out. Yeah, so it's been a great thing for my career As far as longevity and gaining new fans What I'll necessarily have to have a new hit record right right right work devil giant library of Content yes. Yeah, yeah, and this it's cool because You know, there's always gonna be kids always gonna be new kids So I was gonna be something for parents to try to Sheldon to watch to take their time and are we there is a cool option, you know, I'm saying so and then we did always done yet and You know people are asking me when you're gonna do the next one.

2:10:40I'm like I want a third one. Okay, let's think about it. We gotta do it. Everyone. We'll see we got talked to Joe and revolution You know get it right. Well, I found out that you wrote Friday I was like that's insane. That's incredible. Yeah, me and me and DJ Poo. That's a funny fucking movie. Yeah Yeah, it is, you know, I mean DJ Poo He's one of those he's like one of those undercover geniuses that Been he been involved in a lot of hip -hop. I mean he he helped LL do going back to Cali You know me like he been around forever and We all fans of Poo, you know, I'm saying and Poo is Funny He technical he he's the one who Who got rock started to do the Grand Theft artist grant theft auto San Andreas That whole you know like take it from Miami and put it in LA, you know, I mean take it from the Miami Don't culture to the LA gang culture.

2:11:48So He's the one who's behind the scenes with stuff like that and he helped me write Friday He produced uh, it was a good day the song So whenever we together, it's just magic and uh, we wrote Friday because We were watching in living color Uh, and we love Hollywood shuffle by Robert Townsend And uh, we was like let's write it. Let's write a movie about the neighborhood like Because everything that was coming out was depressing, you know Colors boys in the hood In his society, right south central. It was like yo, this is hell's on and was like I I don't know did you remember it like that or Don't we laugh around here?

2:12:39It's all the time. Like let's let's show how it really is for us around here And so That's how Friday Kind of charm and eight and became like yo, we gonna show Our version of what how we have fun is south central That is an all -time classic. Yeah, it's uh It's a movie that I get commented on more than any other like people Quoted love it. Yeah, the characters are iconic People dress up When you know you got a line like you got knocked the fuck out that gets repeated For decades. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I knew I knew was one of those lines Because I had never heard it in a movie before when somebody got knocked out and I'm like Yeah, this is what he gonna say when he jump over him and look down on him like you got knocked up How many times you seen that on a world Yeah Yeah How many times you seen that a world star hip -hop now though all the time it's just like everybody yells.

2:13:46Yeah, someone goes down. It's automatic automatic. Yeah, you know, all you know, that's as as an artist That's all you want is to have Couple classics. Hmm that people remember you for you know when you 80 and a Cafe, you know drink a coffee somebody run up you like y 'all crack. What's up? Yeah, I mean, that's all you want That's amazing What what do you and you could do whatever the fuck you want now. What do you enjoy doing most? um Creating you know on all levels like that's what get my juices going is Being in the lab the creative process uh, whether it's music um movies You know tv You know documentaries or you know sports.

2:14:39It's being it's being creative. It's it's being part of the mix um When I go on movies and I'm just a actor, you know, I'll be like Damn. Yeah, so boring. Yeah, just sitting around waiting to act, you know I like to be in the producers means I like to know what's going on What's on the set dude? Do we get that stunt is you know, we're gonna still do that stunt at three o 'clock And I just need to be part of the mix to stay You know Motivated and interested, you know, I mean, but if I'm just a piece of the puzzle and kind of sitting off to the side waiting to be used Like a tool like uh, it's not as cool for me Oh understandable.

2:15:23Yeah, why would it be And you don't have to do that anymore. Yeah, you know, so I want to I want to be in the mix You know, I want to be in the kitchen cooking it. I don't just want to sit down and eat it no matter what it is No matter what it is if I'm gonna be a part of it. I got to be in the kitchen. I can't just Play a play a look. I've acted in movies, you know, I did 21 jump street. I did uh Three kings, you know, where I'm just a actor and I'm fine with that, you know, don't think Okay, we can't hire a cue because he just want to produce but But I like to produce and I think I add a lot to To the movies that I produce and The movies I produce you can watch over and over and over again and never get tired Yeah, no, it's a you've had an amazing career So when you just decided you just do you kind of just do whatever you're interested in now like whatever you feel like pursuing Yeah, that's a beautiful freedom It is because you know, I'm not playing the game no more like I don't play the radio game Like how many spins did I get on that song?

2:16:31How many spins? I look at ice cube fans like clientele I just want to serve them Give them what they like give them what they love and go back to the lab I'm not I'm not worried about charts and All these measuring sticks on if you're good or not or Is your work good, you know views or whatever I'm into Doing dope shit that I feel and giving it to the people that want it That's beautiful. It's great for artists. That's a beautiful life It's pretty um, I'm pretty blessed in that aspect because I know guys and I know people who are Bigger than me on major labels with in their miserable because they they're so scheduled and structured and They feel obligated because You know This and that going on and and I don't want to feel obligated when I'm making music to the people who's spending money I want to make the music I feel and if you like it spend money on it Well, you have a very wise philosophy on how to live your life Because like just the way you just like talking about rich people.

2:17:53It's a lot of rich people that are miserable as fuck You know what we rich you want to be happy. Yes, you'd rather be less rich and more happy without a doubt um like Whatever it is you know, whatever it is man It's more important to be happy doing it. Yeah, and I I noticed when you happy doing things and when you When you love what you do and when you um put your all into it You know the money comes When you focus on the money and you're doing things To get the money You're never happy doing it or rarely happy doing it and At the end of the day you wish you could have got more money, so yeah, I'm not even happy with what you were paying It also doesn't resonate with people the same way It resonates with people when you do what you love when you do what you love And it comes out especially when you're talking about music.

2:18:48Yeah, you do what you love people get it They feel it they feel it from the work. Yeah, and if you're just doing it because you're hoping it's gonna be successful People feel that too. Yeah, or just doing what you think is a hit. Mm -hmm. That's the worst thing The worst thing an artist can do is to go try to make a hit Mm -hmm. You got to make a good song Damn it fits a hit Yeah, a good song is a good song where there's played a thousand times or once You know that's what you focus on making good music and whether it's a hit or not That's You know that's in the stars, you know What what do you think you got this wisdom to look at things so objectively and clearly um I think You know when I look at how grew up like my pops is an independent man Independent thinker.

2:19:52It's not part of any club or any organization or any fraternity or any Gang or any it's no man that can come and tell him what to do Unless he's at work so um, I like that and I saw him stand on his own two feet You know from he he moved L .A. when he was 19 years old from Louisiana and so He's been a man that handled his business from day one so um, I think he's the foundation of of how I view things um and and and living and and being young thrown into the fire Oh, you know seem like every time I look up there's something that uh That needs my focus and attention that's trying to take down what I've built so I um I'm always paying attention, you know, I never I never um I Never going something blind and I you know, I try to understand all the angles before I make a decision That's a very fortunate.

2:21:13You had a father like that. I am you know, I thank him all the time for just hanging around You know the statistics are what they are um and As men we got to stick we got to raise our kids, you know, I mean we got to be here um and as much as we can is and um It makes a difference it makes a difference With the person that you're Raising and the person that you're sending out into the world You know, you want to give you want to give your family stability and fathers Can do a lot of that they can do a lot of that. Yeah, it's uh, it's got to feel great for you to see your son taking off like this You know like with the wisdom that you got from your father that your son is obviously he's acquired that as well Mm -hmm.

2:22:11It works hard It's great, man, you know, all you want to do is you want your kids to step up In the moment of truth You know, I mean you want them to do what it takes at the time that It's mandatory or the you know the situation arise that they can step up Even if it's taken out the trash like you tell you uh Yeah, hey, you know, take out the trash when I get back. I want this done And when you get back and it's done You feel better as a parent. Yeah, you know, I mean you feel like okay They stepped up When they needed to when I asked them to and Make you feel good that you you know got people that That you're sending out in the world that Are dependable and responsible and not trying to fuck over nobody.

2:23:06Yeah, fuck yeah. No, that's That's one of the greatest accomplishments you can make as a human being You you made the world better by raising better people. Yeah raise good people and um You know, that's that's that's the number one job of a parent I believe is a Raised a good person because deaf the world don't need another asshole Personally Hey, we don't need another one. We got plenty. Yeah, we got plenty. We're all full. Yeah, show show It's also great that you you you set a standard with maybe people that don't even have a father figure You set a standard with your words the way you talk about things that address things and think about things and you're so thorough You set a standard with other young kids that admire you too, which is beautiful.

2:23:52That's good You know, that's great You know, and I'm blessed to be in the position to do that um, I want to do that you know if you You know, I hope I'm a good example on You know, I have fun with the music and entertainment and this and that but You know, I want to be a solid person, you know, I mean that Say what I mean me when I say and Do what I say and um You know all you got is your balls and your word man sit Tony Montana. So you got you got yeah, but no, you've you've done it and you've done it in an amazing way You said a great standard. It's pretty shity man. Um You have to you know you you are a great um Communicator, you know, I mean and that people need to hear somebody with courage Speak for the people when Others are so scared to you know some of the things that That you said um Today, you know a lot of people would be scared to even bring that stuff up man.

2:25:07Well, it's what you said if you can You should when you got the mic use yeah, and I can so I do yeah got the mic use it Someone has to as a wild as fucking time it is man and We need we need people to step up that we trust, you know, we don't need no more people to let us down That we believe in you know absolutely Well, listen brother. I appreciate you very much. It was an honor to have you in here. I've been a giant fan since the 80s Which is crazy and I just appreciate everything you do man appreciate you too, man, you know You're greater what you do You got me into You got me into UFC. You gonna watch next weekend.

2:25:50Yeah, I'm watch Fulkenowski yaya Rodriguez. Whoo. It's your it's your passion for the sport your knowledge of the sport your breakdown your ability to to Go back and say you know the origin of this move and the origin of this move Really got me into the game so you you know you're excellent communicator and I Appreciate you letting you show my pleasure. It was an honor. Thank you very much. Yeah, yeah, all right. Bye everybody