#2019 - Tim Dillon

25:47If you're the Obama's and you can't kill someone you want, what is the point? They literally, what is the point? But imagine if you're the Obama's and your friend just fucking drowns. Yes. I mean, and you didn't have anything to do with it. Maybe that's unfortunate. A reaction to some medication. Poison that you gave him. Yes. Maybe it's some medication that a lot of people took. And to me, I'm like, a lot of people near these people die. That's my only thing. Yeah. Like if you're like a dog walker for the Clintons or you're like a shat like, if you're near either the Bush family, the Clinton family, like a lot of these families, the people that are with them, their secret service agent, they have accident.

26:27They hear a lot of stuff. They hear stuff. They're party to things. They see things. And then a lot of them, just, you know, they have accidents. Yeah, whoopsies. Bye. Whoops. Sorry. All of a sudden the guy's hanging from an extension cord and shoots himself in the chest with a shotgun. That seems, you know, unlikely. And the shot, where did they find the shotgun? How far away did they find it from his body? Some very unusual distance. I'd be so disappointed if we find out none of it's true. Oh yeah. I would be so disappointed if we find out that all of them died of natural causes. I would be so disappointed when there's like 50 people that have died under suspicious circumstances.

27:07Right. At least one of them. Right. It says the 12 gauge shotgun was 30 feet from his body when he was found dead. Right. Well, he shot himself and then threw it. 30 feet is very far. That could be that here's a thing. If you are actually holding a shotgun and shooting it in your chest, there's not going to be any resistance on the other end. Right. So it's essentially like a rocket. So it's not because of the way you would have to do it. Yeah. Shoot yourself in the chest with a shotgun. Right. It's possible. It is. Yeah, it's possible that it would go flying. And then it would fly out. Yeah. Interesting.

27:45So maybe he was just super troubled and that is what he did. But you just got to think about it. If you're at that, if you occupy that level of society and somebody's threatening you, how do you deal with it? If you have the, you know, whatever you want to call it, the ambition, the ruthless to get there and somebody's trying to take that from you. Yeah. What do you do? How do you handle it? You try to be like black in their name in the press. You try to besmirch them. And if that doesn't work, what do you do? Do you just say, okay, I guess we're just going to get taken down by a scandal. Or do you just say, hey, we got to take care of this.

28:22I think it really depends on who you are and what kind of accents to people you have. You know, I can't imagine anybody getting to that level of society. Right. And letting themselves get taken down by someone far below them. Usually when those families get taken out, they're taken out by like an equal, someone at their level, right? But when someone far below you that you could get rid of or, you know, it's like that guy outside of that restaurant in LA, Austria, Mocha and Melrose and Highland, who's gorgeous one and two. Yeah. Music, things like that happen. And of course, yeah, maybe he was drunken just decided to go 150 miles away.

29:03You don't have anything about that, John. Michael Hastings, yeah. Things like that happen in their weird and you see it yourself like, do you piss the wrong person off? And he certainly did. Yeah. And then how do people at that level deal with it? It makes a lot of sense to me that people like that would use violence to deal with their enemies. You know, to silence their enemies forever. Like that makes sense to me. But maybe I'm too cynical and maybe I'm wrong. I don't know, but it would make a lot of sense to me that they would, they'd be a meeting. And the people would meet and they'd go, yeah, we got to take care of this.

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32:46But those bitches who turned on her because she was trying to help them. First of all, that's not even a carrot. You don't get to be a fat backup dancer. That doesn't exist. It's not real. Lizzo made that category of person. She made it. And then they turned on her. That's crazy. What is she accused of? Fat shaming them, making them rehearse, making them stand up. That's what their version of fat shaming is. Making them stand up and walk onto the stage. Making them rehearse, taking the new sex club in Amsterdam, where the performers are shooting bananas out of their pussies because this is what happens.

33:28And Lizzo's forcing them to touch the new performers and force one of them to eat a banana that came out of the vagina of a sex worker. A performer dancer in the sex club. Lizzo makes a girl, she's like, eat the banana, eat the banana. And then the girl gets really angry at that. But supposedly, Lizzo was just abusing her power. This is what they're all saying. But I don't know if I buy that, I think it's bitter people, maybe, that are angry. Because they all look like Lizzo. This is what's going to drive them nuts. They look exactly like her. And she's worth 40 million and they're probably getting paid shit.

34:10So they're in the background every night dancing. And it ain't easy. It's fun to be on that TV show that she had. But then you have to do it every night. And they're icing their joints. You know it's hard. They're in the trailer. It's fucking tough. Lizzo had to start getting on some of them going like, you got it, tone it down. You know, it's becoming a problem. You know, the weight is becoming a problem. And then Lizzo's response was she's like, I would never fire any of them because of their weight. It's like, what a weird statement. They're dancers. How fat can they get? How fucking big can they get?

34:47If I wanted to be a dancer for Taylor Swift and she came up to me and went, you're too fat to do this. I'd go, that makes sense. And I'd leave with some dignity. But these women, Lizzo has them on stage, she has them dancing. And then all of a sudden, you know, she's abusing or making them do weird shit. And they all are now suing her. And her streaming has slowed down big time. The ads. You know how it is. It's a big cancelage. So did she, so this show, were these girls dancers before they got on her show? No, because you can't be a dancer at a certain, right? But let's just be very honest here.

35:27They're not at the ballet. You know how the ballerinas are on the tippy toes? That's not happening. These women, it's a fetish dancing. Yeah. These are larger women. Okay. And I don't mean like, well, I had a cheesecake. I mean, like, these are big, big, big ladies. And they're dancing because Lizzo's whole thing was like, I'm not getting enough attention just being the fatty upfront. I want everyone on stage to be fat. So I can get more praise. Because the media will be like, not only a she fat, everyone's fat. The whole stage looks like shit. How good of a person is she? That's what they want.

36:03I think that's what she wanted. She wanted. It wasn't enough that it was hard. It had to be everybody. And that's what bitter in the ass. But the question was, maybe these gals, how often did they have to dance? Was it like every night? Like how often does that show? Was it a once a week show? What was it? I don't know. But they were on tour. So you'd figure when you were on a tour. OK. So they're doing regular shows. Regular shows. No, this is my question. When you're a big girl and you're not exercising, then also someone hires you for a dance show because they want big girls. And then you have to do that kind of shit every day.

36:39It's tough. Your body's not prepared for that. Your joints are weak. Very hard. Like, you can get really fucked up doing it. That's like asking someone to go into like some crazy cardiovascular work. Right. And they get banded Luzo because Luzo doesn't have to do anything. She just pulls out the flute. Can I see what it looked like? Can you show me what that show was like? Can you show us the big girls? Here come the big girls is the show. But I think they're also angry at Luzo because they're like, we're dancing and rehearsing. She doesn't have to rehearse. Luzo just kind of walks out on stage and sings her songs and does a little, but then pulls out the flute.

37:14These girls have to like dance through the whole thing. So it's difficult. It's hard. It sounds hard. It's not easy. Here's the TV show. It's hard for a dancer. Here we go. Okay. So there's Luzo. It's on Amazon Prime Video. Look up, Luzo. I'm looking for dancers to join me on my tour. Girls that look like me don't get representation. Trying to pull up my sleeves. Find them myself. We think and we pretty and we know we're going to be together. We bow. It's the battle of the big girl. Oh. Background dancer for Luzo will just meet everything. You could tell how badly this was going to go by the way.

37:58I like it. What do we have in store? This is the form part. I'm always doubting myself and I feel like that has been detrimental and how I approach dance. I'm realizing that I do deserve a spot in that stage. It's hard to love yourself in a world that doesn't love you back. You are created especially in your image for you to enjoy. You don't have to be a light scan. You don't have to be skinny. You're just beautiful the way you are. I need to challenge myself and step outside my comfort zone. Now I'm going into competition. I am. Some people are not at the same level that I am. I'm going to call you Luzo.

38:33He's trying to demean me. He's not understanding how to read the room. You might not make it into the show. I see what I'm saying. There was one that was out of transgender version. I believe that is a transgender person. Yeah. Even in a quick glance. Yes. It was a quick. I'll say they didn't do a great job at fully going to the other gender there. You know what I mean? They stopped. That's fine. Everyone does a great job all the time at everything. I brought my car in and get washed and it comes out and it comes up. That's what that was. But so the show is basically she's hiring these girls. These girls listen.

39:18And then they're growing on tour together. I've had drug addictions. I've had eating things like when you are not in a good mental state, which is a lot of the reason people act out with different things, right? With substances, with food, with whatever. You know, and you know, listen, if you have people that are emotionally that have issues, you know, and Luzo might have them as well. It's a toxic soup of maybe that's a becomes a problem on tour. Yeah. Everybody. It's the idea of a judge having to adjudicate this to me is the funniest thing I've ever. The idea of a judge in a room having to go who called who fat, looking Luzo is on one side and then the Dan and he's like staring at everybody going, wait, who's who, who's what, who's fat like it's crazy, but you know, it's unfortunate because you know, they're coming for her career.

40:10Yeah. They're coming for her career a big time. The show itself seems like it would be a health risk. But it seems like it would be, right? There's a force people to work out. Yes. Part of the lawsuit has to do with the recording that one of the dancers made. And I'm reading this article. This sounds, it's interesting. If you guys would want to read it. Okay. Are you, if I'm just a little bit? The shoot also describes an alleged meeting with dancers on April 27th at which Luzo repeatedly referenced Williams' termination, allegedly telling her that she had quote eyes and ears everywhere. Davis recorded this meeting because she suffers from an eye condition that can make her quote disoriented and stressful situations according to the suit.

40:48Days later, Luzo allegedly held an emergency meeting where she discovered that the previous meeting had been recorded the suit says. She became furious, hurling explosives at the group and stating that she was going to go around the room present by person until somebody told Luzo who made the recording according to the lawsuit. The suit says Davis confirmed that she had recorded the meeting allegedly told Luzo that she hadn't meant any harm and a deleted video. Luzo allegedly responded. There is nothing you can say to make me believe you. So it's kind of like, like, mafia shit. Well, someone did, here's what I want to know when it says became furious, hurling explosives at the group and stated that she was going to go around the room person by person until someone told Luzo who was making, who made the recording.

41:32God, I hope she refers to herself in the third term. Yes. Third person. Somebody better tell Luzo. Because if that, I hope that's what she says. That would be amazing. If she said someone better tell Luzo. Yeah, I mean, she brought all these women on tour, probably to abuse them, you know, I don't think they thought it through. That's what I'm saying. When you have a bunch of fatty boom baddies on the tour, she's probably having a little fun going girls, you know, she's probably... Eat some pussy out of banana. Yeah, eat the pussy banana. And also, bitch, do it because where else are you going to dance?

42:08Right. You're not getting hired anywhere else, like unfortunately or fortunately, you're not working. Right. So you were given this really weird, unique opportunity that only exists with this one woman. Yeah. It doesn't exist anywhere else. So, you know, this is like not to body shame anybody, but there was, there's been a weird shift. Yes. And just the way society looks at these things. Yes. Because it used to be that women that were representing clothes and things had ideal shapes. Yes. Like that's what they used for advertising. Right. And then something changed and they decided to... Well, society used to really prioritize people who could breathe on their own.

42:58And then... And, and, and, and, and listen, listen, as a person I've struggled with my weight, but I know that you give, that is not good. Eating the wrong thing isn't good. We shouldn't turn it into good. Right. There's, there's crazy to turn it into good. That's a horrible idea. There's people that could be encouraged in this exact same state. They could either be encouraged that you're perfect on your own and don't you worry about anything. Right. And don't you even worry about what food is, just eat to your heart's content. Right. Well, there were, there were things that LA, they put this weird story out where it was like, the LA school district was like, let's stop telling kids that fruits and vegetables are good.

43:41And then jump food is bad because the reality is that's racist. I don't know how. I don't know how either. But they were like, yeah, they were like, it's racist. If you tell a kid, there's a difference between an Oreo and an orange. That is racist. Recently, they had a thing where Lizzo lost a few pounds. I don't know how, but she did, you know, she moves around a lot. So she shaved a couple off. Maybe lost a little bit in the face. Don't know how it happened. They started attacking her. The fat activist people started saying, how dare you, you're losing weight, you're the symbol of fat and she should never have let them put that crown on her.

44:16Yeah. When they said, she should have said, hey, I'm an artist. I'm a singer. This is what I do. Not I'm the symbol of all fat people. Right. Because now you own them. Now you own the fatnies. And that's... And you have to stay fat. And you got to stay fat. And like, so Lizzo loses a few pounds. And then people started attacking her going, how dare you lose the weight. And Lizzo literally made a statement she said, I move around a lot for my job. I mean, look at how insane this world is. Lizzo goes, I move around a lot for my job. I lost a little bit of weight. I'm not trying to be thin. I don't even want to be thin.

44:51This was an accident. To keep this rapid fanbase of crazy people. My health was an accident. My health was an accident. I'm sorry I didn't mean it. I didn't mean to improve. It won't happen again. So it's, we've gone so far. Guys, Kevin James had a manager that told him once. When you're losing weight, you're losing roles. Right. Well, if you're an actor and you're used to that certain thing, you know, people got to get used to you another way, whatever. But like, you got to remember with somebody like Lizzo, right? You couldn't lose a lot of weight. You're still a problem. Like, that's the whole thing.

45:29It's like, she could lose a lot of weight. And it's still like, it's such a luxury concern when people are like, well, how's the world going to relate to me with a six pack? It's like, just stand up by yourself first and then get to there. But it's crazy. We've shifted the goalposts. We're like, let's not abuse people. Let's not be nasty to people, especially if you don't know them or if you know them, if they're your kids or your friends, it's completely appropriate to go, hey, what's going on here? But if you don't know people shitting on them on the internet or whatever, that's a shitty thing to do.

46:05But saying that there's no difference health wise between the big girls on that show and then thinner dancers is crazy. And we can't live in a world that's okay. We can't live in a world where we remove all sense of reality. Right. Because then it's like, the only fun of eating a cupcake or a little scoop ice cream is knowing it's bad. Right. That's the point. Not because it's good. Right. When you eat a little something you shouldn't eat, you know, I did the wrong thing. I'm a bad boy. And you should feel ashamed a little bit. There should be a little shame there. And it's worth the shame because it tastes so fucking good.

46:44Yeah, just worth the shame. Like, you know, if you've ever been, I walked out of a frozen yogurt shop once and someone recognized me. I don't get recognized all the time. But somebody recognized you. You should be ashamed of that. If someone goes, hey, man, I like your stuff and you're holding frozen yogurt at 2 p .m., you should be ashamed of that. That should be a shameful moment in your life. You should be like, ugh, walking out of an ice cream shop in the mid -afternoon with Sam Talat. In Austin, walking out of Amy's ice cream with Sam Talat. And then somebody goes, oh, Tim Dylan, and you go, you spit around, you look at it.

47:20And it's two, and the only other people in the thing are children. Because it's a fucking ice cream shop. There are people there are fucking kids. They're nine years old, right? And then these rich, be cave moms. There should be a moment where we go, oh, this isn't good. This isn't right. Divorcing yourself from that. That's when I think comedy gets weird. That's when I think everything gets weird. When you stop saying, what is real? Right. Or true to you. And when you start adopting this idea that up is down and down is up. And it's just a matter of how you look at it. That's when everything starts to get crazy.

47:57Yeah, and that's where we are. That's kind of where we are. There's a certain percentage of the population that is questioning everything right now. I mean, mathematics. Yeah. We're talking about mathematics being racist and subjective or somehow. Yeah. What was the argument? I don't know. Because it was designed, anything designed by white people, like I said, inherently and potentially. You just got to, I said. So, yeah. Well, now it's important to like local, local stuff is important now, right? Like your family. Yeah. You can't really rely on institutions. You can try to improve them, but the local stuff is important.

48:31Like your family, your community, the values that people have, right? And the schools you send your kids to, like the context you provide your kids now. So when they come home and go, well, the teacher said this and you go, yeah, but let me. You can't outsource it anymore. And trust that your kids are going to get like a good education. You have to get involved and go, okay, your teacher might have some points, but also there's also a whole other world here. Like I think, I don't think we could send kids to school and have them go like, no, your teacher's right about everything. Which I never believed.

49:08Yeah. I never believed as somebody driving a Toyota Camry was correct. We also have to think that those adults are with your children more than you are during the day. That's right. They're there for hours and hours with an undivided attention of your kids. That's right. And some of them are fucking loons. Some of them think that they have a job to do to like remove the programming of the parents that they don't agree with. Right. So they could not agree with the parents and tell the kids that the parents are wrong. They're right. Right. Which is a real creepy thing because I don't know who's right and who's wrong.

49:48This is a made up scenario, right? But just that someone would decide that they are right and the parents are wrong and they want to convince this child of something. Whether it's they have political leanings, whether it's their attitude on whatever the fuck it is. Whatever it is that someone would get into your kids head and have some very questionable and debatable ideas that they're trying to push as doctrine. Yeah. And that does happen. I've had some shitty fucking teachers that will just tell you that they are right about certain things. Yes. I used to do cocaine with the substitutes at my school and those were that was kind of the level of teacher we had.

50:33But we had some great teachers and then we had some teachers that were not great. Right. You know, we all know those teachers, right? We all know those teachers who had kind of an agenda like they went in and they were like they were teachers because nobody would listen to them. So now they had this captive audience and they were like, well, I'm going to talk. We had a health teacher like that in high school that had like an agenda not even like a sexuality agenda or whatever. She would just complain about her own miserable life to us like she just tells her husband and everything like that. She's going to a divorce.

51:08Oh my god. And you're like, oh, this woman just wants people to talk to. And that's how she talked class. Yeah. She just would complain about like she had just gone through a divorce and you know, like a husband. And who was the subject? It was health. It's like a fake class anyway. And this bitch would just get up and like literally she said to one kid once she goes like a really a feminine kid. He was like, well, I get married. She goes, your gay and the like and the class was like, what? And then she's like, she goes and he goes, excuse me. And she goes, no, your day. And then just moved on like she was wacky.

51:42And I think she ended up getting fired. But she clearly used her classroom as like a thing like a therapy session. Yeah. Where she wasn't like going over, you know, this was just like her. I think my grandmother was a teacher. She was an amazing teacher. But yeah, I don't think it's appropriate to in like you can have opinions obviously as a teacher. But like, you know, you got to understand that there's like certain things that. But then there's overreaction too where I think they banned the book in Florida because it had two penguins that were dudes. But it what like they weren't the penguins weren't fucking what they unbanned.

52:19Come on. They are banned. He gets a little wild. Well, he's probably got some really wild people that are supporting him. Yeah. So he gets a little wild. You get into those religious. It gets a little, it cult likes. Yeah. That's a little cult like. But I'm all this as somebody who's been out of the closet for years and years and don't hide anything. I don't think six year olds should be taught about any sexuality. No. It has nothing to do with their lives. Right. They should be taught reading math, the alphabet. So anybody going like boys in this line, girls in this line and this line is for my special people like out.

52:53That's what I feel. Yeah. And that's what most gay people over certain age feel. It's like it's silly. And tango makes three recounts recounts the true story of two male penguins who were devoted to each other at the Central Park Zoo in New York. A zookeeper saw them building a nest and trying to incubate an egg -shaped rock, gave them an egg from a different penguin pair with two eggs after they were having difficulty hatching more than one egg at a time. The chick cared for by the male penguins was named tango. So male tango had two gay dads. Is that, yeah, I'm trying to - That's what they're saying.

53:26But they unbanned this, I think. They banded and then unbanned. I don't know why they unbanned it. It was the band was lifted because I guess it was an explicit. What is wrong with gay parents? I don't know. But I think it's an overreaction because it's like - But the word books were - Of course. It's crazy. It's explicit, like, moral sex. They were showing, like, illustrations of moral sex. That's crazy. No, it's insane. And talking about lust and wanting someone. It's like, it's essentially a cartoon porn article. No, it's crazy. And it's also crazy to introduce the concept of gender theory to children.

54:01It's not fair. It's not fair. It's crazy. It's crazy. Kids are so fucking malleable, man. They're malleable. And if they hear, like, oh, there's boys and girls. And then there's this guy. Yes. If you're transgender, you'll know. You'll know. If you're gay, you'll know. There isn't, like, uh, you don't need to be told that you're transgender or gay or lesbian or whatever. You don't need to be told that by anybody. Another thing that really scares me is there does not seem to be a lot of attention paid made to D -transitioners. Right. You know, when you're celebrating this one thing - I feel like you have a responsibility to look at it.

54:42Except Ben Shapiro is doing a new musical of the D -transitioners. That will be very good on his - He really hated Barbie. On his platform where it's going to be a bunch of trans people who've DJed. Well, the funniest thing now is some of the people that are critical of the trans stuff are like trans people that like have D -transitioned. So they look wild. Yeah. And then they're on Twitter or whatever it's called now fighting with the other people. And you're like, it's like the Lizzo fat thing where you go, wait, who's what? Like, I don't even know what's happening. But yeah, there's a lot of people that went through that stuff and went back.

55:17So to me, it's like one of the guests of this podcast did. Yeah. Kristen Beck, she was Christy. It was a Navy seal, became his name is Chris Beck, right? And then he became Kristen and then went back to being a guy. That's why you can't make those decisions when you're young. You got to see what happens. Well, you also got to realize that there is some very strange spectrum of human being. That's right. And everybody looks for some reason. We try to find what is like us out there. Right. You know, you just can't just accept whatever it's. See, it's weird because I'm the opposite word. It's like, I'm fascinated by people not like me.

56:03Like, I see these comedy shows in New York City where it's like, they'll be like the all brown comedy show or the old gay comedy show. And I'm like, you're living in New York City. This is the most diverse place on earth. And you want to hang out with seven people that look exactly like you. Right. It's the weirdest thing in our culture now that everybody needs to be around people like them. Well, it's social media echo chambers amplified into the real world. That's what it is. And the thing about wanting everybody to be like you, the problem with that is like, what if you go up last? All those fucking dudes have all the material.

56:40They've taken it. They've taken every damn every brand of observation. Oh, your dad wanted you to be a doctor too. Yeah, I don't know. It's just, I understand community. I understand having shared experiences with people. Yeah. But I also think the most, some of the most adventurous parts of life and the most interesting and the most exciting are when you're with, how many cool star stories start with like somebody want to trip and met a bunch of people that had no idea from different cultures. Yeah. And they said, I had the most epic trip ever because, and they'll describe every person that ended up on this backpacking thing with them.

57:18And not one of them is like another one. And it seems so cool that everybody brings a perspective that you don't have. Yeah. And now it's like people are like, oh, I just want to be around people like myself all the time. And to me, I'm like, isn't that boring? Isn't it boring to agree with all of your friends? It is boring. It's boring. Yeah. You want people in your life that you detest. You know, like you strongly dislike. That think they're smart and are wrong. Right. Those are the funnest people. Certainty is hilarious. People that have to reverse themselves all the time earlier. I have to reverse myself a lot.

58:00I do too. I will do a whole thing and then people go, it's not like that and I go, well then that's fine too. And I'll just keep going like 100%. Because that's what keeps life fun. Yes. Yeah. And you know, and it's always interesting to try to figure out why someone strongly believes what they believe. If you don't believe it, it's always interesting. Right. So, especially if they're smart. Yeah. It's always interesting to like, okay, how did you come to that? Like when really brilliant people are very religious. I'm always interested in something that's interesting. And I was very interested in this.

58:29It's like, for me, my grandmother and grandfather were deeply religious. My grandmother was a liberal. My grandfather was a conservative. So, politically, they were completely different. But they each went to mass every day. And they believed deeply in de -catholic faith, right? And they had great lives. And it was a very important thing for both of them. But politically, they came out from completely different ways. So, he would vote for Reagan. And she'd vote for whoever, right? Mando. Now, a divided household. Well, no, they were different. My grandfather was my father's father. My grandmother was my mother's mother.

59:05But they got along. They loved me. They were great people. They were very religious. But my grandmother said, I don't, I, for example, don't believe women that want abortion should have to go to a back alley. And my grandfather said, I believe that life starts a conception. We should not have legal. But they was a big disagreement. But like they, but, and so some people that would have disqualified my grandmother. They would have been like, well, she's not a real Christian. But she was out teaching, catacism, helping people, volunteering, doing all the stuff that Jesus probably would have done, you know?

59:41So, it was like, they were completely different. But it is interesting. We have deeply religious. I think it's, it's a lot of like, you know, without religion, it is difficult, without some idea of why we're here and what we're doing. It is a, it's a tough go of it. Yeah, for a lot of people. It's a tough go of it as a pure intellectual. Right. You know, some of the smartest people I know are really freaked out about life. Everything that's just chance and theories and going like, one guy gets in a car, another guy gets in a car, that guy makes it home, that guy doesn't. Yeah. Living with the reality of that every day is really tough.

1:00:23Yeah. You know what I mean? It is. So I think what, you know, these systems that, you know, are very comforting. And it would be great if there was some version of it that was true. Like if there was some omniscient being rewarding the good and punishing the bad, yeah, phenomenal. I think there's a lot of that. But maybe there's a third way, which you talk about a lot. And that's from like the DMT and stuff like that. Maybe there's a, maybe we all just go to some peaceful energy field. Isn't that kind of the game? Who knows? Well, who knows what we are? Like, we think of our consciousness as our consciousness coming out of our mouth through our words.

1:01:01Right. And what we do and where we go and what we see. Right. You know, but like, what is it? Like, what is that energy? If it's unstrapped from the human body, when it doesn't need to communicate with sound, when it doesn't have a body. Like, is there something in there that goes somewhere else? Yeah. Because if that's like the, this idea of the soul, like, that's one of the ways that people describe, like DMT experiences, that you are entering into like a well of souls. Right. You know, that there's just some process where that thing goes back into a body. And then a new body has that thing in it.

1:01:41Interesting. This is the reincarnation. The reincarnation idea. But I don't want that. There's another one. Okay. One other thought. I don't like that one. So let's get to one I like. The other one is that you live the same life over and over and over again until you get it right. That I don't love either. That I don't love either. Then I have to take megabuses again, you know, performing bars in Western Massachusetts. I know, but would that be so horrible? If you already did it. What about past life regressive therapy? Do you think there's anything to that? What do you think that's just a racket?

1:02:12Passive regressive? No, past life regressive. Oh, past life regressive. We're like somebody to go. You were Napoleon. Well, there's some real issues with that. Yeah. People are very suggestible. It depends entirely on who's providing the therapy. There was a guy that did that. His name was John Mack. And he did that with UFO people. All these people that claim to have been abducted. And he freaked out more at tyranny. And she came to me a book, like at work, when we were doing news radio together, she's like, you got to read this. This is crazy. And it's all about these people that got abducted.

1:02:41They all have the same fucking story. And this guy did it all through hypnotic regression. But there were some people that felt like he had made suggestive questions to them. And that perhaps led them in a certain way to maybe even fabricate this kind of a memory. I don't know, though. It's like, I'm super suspicious. I mean, I think that it's totally possible that someone could put you into hypnosis. Right. And in that hypnosis, you can recall something that was traumatic. I also think it's totally possible for you to have false memories implanted in your head. Right. Because they know that you can do that.

1:03:22They know they can do that with people. They can give people false memories. And so these people will tell them about things that happen. And all these people will repeat this thing that happened. They remember it. They remember it. But it never happened. And then they have to tell them that never happened. Interesting. And my friend's mother was into like Shirley McLean apparently. He's really into this stuff. Oh, super into it. She's super into it. And my friend's mother was like really into it too. And my friend's mother was just a rich, long island wine drunk. Nice. And she just, you know what I mean?

1:03:51She didn't work or anything. Right. You know, she was just a fun, crazy bitch. We drink martinis with and smoke cigarettes. And it was so much fun. And then like after a few martinis, she started talking about her past life and Shirley McLean. And how she used to, you know, she was a man in her past life. And she was like a general and a war. Of course. Of course. Of course. Because she went shopping all day. She went to the grocery store in the past. She was a winner. Yeah, she's right. I did my winning. Yes. And another life. And another life. Yeah. She was like, I was Napoleon. You know, I'm asking about a past life.

1:04:25Well, that's what she would do. She would get haps. So it always turned me off to it because I was like, oh, this bitch seemed like. And then Shirley McLean would have some workshop. Roll these crazy bitches would go in that of course had nothing to do during the day. Yeah. And they would sit there and then Shirley McLean would be like, and you were, you know, you were the queen of England.

1:04:46And you were the soldier who tried to kill Hitler. You kept trying to kill him. But you didn't get, and it was these weird shit that like Shirley McLean would tell all these people that like, they were like, I don't know. Like, it's just hawkster stuff. It's, it feels, a lot of it feels like that. Yeah. It's tent chair chustlers. They sell crystals by Malibu. You know, like you drive down to PCH's like a crystal truck on the side of the road. Yeah. What is that? What is that? But that's the thing L .A. is a lot of like those yoga people. Yeah. That just are, you know, but it's also very selfish a lot of it.

1:05:22The yoga stuff. They always talk about themselves. And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. But everything's about them. My favorite is learning to love yourself. You're okay. You don't? But like you talk about these people and they're like, well, the energy and this type of thing. But it always comes down to them. They're never like the, the energy was really good in the soup kitchen where I was giving the guy the food. It's always like, I felt that I had to move to Marina Del Rey. Because I consulted and I went, I took ayahuasca. I went and my shaman led me on this journey. And the journey resulted in that I should live in Marina Del Rey.

1:05:57It's always like, you know, a very kind of like me to have me. It's like all those guys that go to Burning Man to take all those mushrooms. And it's, you know, it's like, okay. But it's like, they're not like, you know, it's not like this, you know, like the ethos isn't like, like, these are the same guys that are like designing like the types of systems that are like taking all your information and selling it to someone. So it's like, they're taking a bunch of mushrooms and then realizing that like, oh, I can make a better volunteer. It's like, here's some more data. Yeah, I could sell more data.

1:06:33All those festivals have not been invaded by like these tech guys who just go there and they're like, do the word like they're like, I just got to really like get into myself. And then they're like designing like stuff that like the CIA is using. So it's kind of wild to me the way that we appropriate anything. We just take any spiritual experience we want and make it serve us. Yeah. That's a fact that seems to be a human characteristic. Yeah. Like there's ayahuasca retreats are huge. They are, but they're good. There's real good at them. But there's also like a certain type of person who gravitates towards those things sort of spiritualize their existence.

1:07:13And just by virtue of connecting yourself to the experience and having a few of those experiences, you have like a credit score. Like a spiritual credit score. It's very high spiritual credit score. That's interesting. And then you can be this guy who wears wooden beads. Nobody says it into the dark arts. What I would like is somebody goes, I got to know that stuff, but I'm a witch. I'm like a war lot. Like I'm into the dark side of it. Like I'm into like, I'm the other side. I'm Voldemort. No one does that. Those are the guys who do the late night shift at Walmart. Right. Those are the guys that Chipotle, Chopin, Chicken.

1:07:48Blackfringing else. Yeah. It's weird to me. I always try to get in with it, but it just sounds like junk. That's the problem, right? When you hear people talk about this, it sounds like junk. Because usually it's the most selfish person in the world. And we'll tell you about an Iowaska retreat. It's never like a good person. Amazing things get co -opted all the time. Yeah. By people's personalities. Yeah. You know, I'm sure people will be like, my shaman told me I shouldn't worry about being on the tonight show. Yeah. And you're like, is that what you're using the shaman for? Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.

1:08:23Well, it's just, it's a thing that connects you to some form of spirituality that's non -denominational. So it's like just like being a Christian. It has the exact same feeling as being any, in any other religious group. It's not just disparage any religious group. I think there's a slot in your brain where the rules fit in. And I think that slot could be Islam, that slot could be Mormonism, but there's a slot in your brain where the, and we took that slot out. We took that piece out where like, hey, I've been reading this and I never heard of anybody coming back to the life. Right. Like, after fucking three days, maybe this is horseshit.

1:09:02Yeah. Maybe he didn't make the fucking whole earth in six days. Maybe this thing's really old. That's why I always like Jerry Seinfeld. Because he goes, I like things. Like he does this advertist speech. He did it the Cleo, these advertising awards. He got one of them. And he just, he does this whole thing. It's so brilliant. And he goes, was I like advertising because I like lying? And he talks about, he goes, if things don't make you happy, you don't have the right things. And you, you hear it. It's so funny, right? And people would be like, it's so disgusting. Of course, it's, you know, at the end of the day, people make you happy.

1:09:32Love makes you happy. Community is family. Oh, that makes you happy. But when he talks about things making you happy, it's so funny. And so him. And the way he sells it. The way Jerry Seinfeld sells, like, he goes, there's nothing better than a pair of Levi's. Or, you know, or he goes, uh, uh, a Volkswagen Beetle or a big pen. He's like, if things don't make you happy, you don't have the right things. It's so funny. And I feel like he does think a little bit like that. Yeah. Because that is a group of person too. Where they're almost spiritually connected to inanimate objects. You know, like, and he said, this is all going to be my new book, Soulful Materialism.

1:10:12But it's just funny to me because it's like, there are people you meet that when you talk to them, you go, Oh, yeah, like, this does mean a lot to you. That's a very funny premise though. That's a very scary Seinfeld premise. It's the best thing I've, like, I think he's, you know, I'm not familiar with all of his comedy shows brilliant. Obviously, his comedy is brilliant. But that award speech I saw was like this very unique, different thing that he goes, he goes, he goes, yeah, these awards. He goes, he goes, here's what they really are. He goes, I know this award means nothing. He goes, and I know that because the last, uh, the last time we did this, you know, the last time they had this award, so they left a bunch of them up on stage and you all just came up here and grabbed them.

1:10:54He goes, you didn't know them, but he goes, you just bought them home because they prop up your meaningless lives. It was the, it's the best thing I've seen it, a front, if my just favorite thing, because it does seem like he's totally raw. And I feel like that is him. Yeah. Like he is being real in that moment where he's basically like, no, this is what it is. Yeah. Yeah, here's the shiny thing. He goes, it doesn't matter that it doesn't work when I get at home. I want it now. He goes, I want the thing on the commercial. I want it, and there is something so deeply American about that. It is disturbing on some level.

1:11:28But there's also a level where you got to just recognize how powerful that stuff is, too. Yeah. Like we are one of the only generations of people that have experiences level of prosperity. Oh, yeah. Which is crazy and instant access to goods. To give an app on your phone, Amazon. Anything you just buy whatever you want. You can buy crazy shit on the Amazon. Very expensive things on Amazon. You just have it sent to your house. It's like my boomer parents were like, the first heavily propagandized generation with regard to advertising. Yeah. That's why we all grew up eating shit because like they believed corporations.

1:12:09Yeah. Corporations were like, McDonald's is it. Your kids are going to love it. And you're like, all right, go to McDonald's. Now, my cousins to kids have never had McDonald's. They're six and four. She goes, they'll never, she goes, I can't control them forever. But for right now, they'll never have McDonald's. We grew up eating that because corporations were paramount. My father loves commercials as much as TV shows. He used to call me like the Budweiser frogs were his favorite thing in the world. Remember those three frogs on the Lily pants? I would tell Budweiser. Why is er. And my father loved them.

1:12:52To him, that was art. Like that with the boomers were like one of the first generations where the advertising was art like after 9 -11 Budweiser did this commercial where all the Clydesdales took a knee. And they said from one American. And they were doing it and you're like, where was it? And they're doing it in Jersey. And you're looking at where the tower is used to be. And it took you a minute to get it. And then they all take a knee. And Budweiser said from one American icon to another. And my father's a crime in the living room going, this is the greatest thing I've seen. The bodies were still like smoldering at my father.

1:13:24But yeah, here it is.

1:13:34It's crazy. How did they go from that to what they did? It's been a mistake. How did they go from that to this Dillon Mulvaney design? Well, I think what they thought was going to happen, right? Because I think what happens is you get all you need is one nut. This is all you need in any company. Nobody's ever worked in a company. Like the people that are curious about how this happened. A lot of them have never worked in a company, which is one person. Hasn't an ordinary amount of power. And one motherfucker can go in there and go, no, this is the way it's going to be. And usually that person doesn't get called out because usually the company is not Budweiser.

1:14:11And usually it's not going to be, you know, but we all see like one person in any organization can totally throw it on its head. And I think they had a marketing director who said, we're going to have a little fun. We're going to be a little edgy. This is going to be cool. And we're going to get to move any. And I don't think what they had imagined was that was kind of this straw that broke the camel's back. Because I think people had felt like this, this new world was being shoved on their throat. And then they were looking at Budweiser and they were going, we have to push back against this. Because we feel like all of this is happening a little too quickly.

1:14:51It's a little crazy and we don't understand it. And they fall back. But I think it was probably just one or two people. That is wild. That probably came in there. And you know, you're not paying attention. You go, yeah, yeah, here's a budget. Go work with influencers. You know, but it was also the speech that she gave about wanting to do something to sort of upgrade the brand's image that it was very fratty. Oh, yeah. What's one bitch? One bitch has to go in there and go, I don't, she goes out to a bar one night. She's a bunch of guys and fucking, you know, those pink salmon shorts and fucking loafers drinking Bud Light.

1:15:25And she goes, I don't like this. I got to change this. It's amazing. Yeah, it's one person. It's the whole group of people that buy it. Yeah. Like a man. It's a shitty beer. It's not the best beer. I'm not a beer drinker. I don't drink alcohol now. It's not the best beer. It's not the best beer, right? It's okay. It's fine. It's okay when it's cold. It's not like a connoisseur's beer. No, this is a cooler beer. Yeah. This is a frat -breu beer. Yeah. And they were like, we're going to now do the Dillon Mulvaney thing. Yeah. I mean, you know, I don't, I never want, people getting upset about it.

1:16:02I understand to a degree. I just say where it comes from. But I've never looked at corporations and went, they're good. You know what I mean? Like, I never thought that they were beacons of truth. Right. So I never thought that like, I can't believe it's not butter. I had to have my political view. Like, you know, because I'm like, oh, they're selling poison crap. And the fat people are going, no, it's not butter. Yeah. How wild it is that they convinced people that you, that Marjorin was better for the butter. Well, they came in and they said, frozen yogurt is better than ice cream. And it's all, it's just chemical.

1:16:42Same thing. It's just chemicals, right? Marjorins, marjorins, better than butter, this vegan stuff, these impossible burgers are better than burgers. And they're like fake and they loaded with sodium. And they're, they have fake blood and stuff. But that's what I always viewed corporations like that. I always came from that generation where we looked at corporations where we're like, oh, you're full of shit. My parents looked at corporations crying at the commercials going, they care about us. But what is your cares? McDonald's cares. We all, they care about us. Right. You know, like, why is a child actor?

1:17:14I said to my parents, they brought me into some audition. I didn't get it. And I came out and I went, I didn't get it. But can we still go to McDonald's? My dad used that as like, look what a good head he has on his shoulders. He can handle rejection. And he just wants to go to McDonald's. And it's like, no, that's a toxic factory of horrible food that no kid should be eating. But we grew up having birthday parties there. Every kid in my class had a birthday party at Burger King or whatever. It's just what it was. And because our parents fundamentally trusted corporate America and the government enough to go, well, if it was bad, the government would be regulating it.

1:17:52Yeah, nobody thought of fast food as bad when we were kids. Nobody. It was just food that wasn't the best food. Right. And nobody was like, this stuff's bad. Like, I wonder, I think when Super Size Me came out, that was like the first time where people actually really thought, like, okay, how bad is this? Yeah, but then that guy was so annoying. That guy that people were like, well, fuck him. Like he made a true point. But people were like, but the corporations are smart. You go, okay, how about fast casual? How about fast casual? Not fast food. And you go, well, it's not fast food. I have to stand on the line.

1:18:28They give me a thing. But it's the same thing. Like, they just morph what they do. So to me, I've never been like, these corporations will do what they can get away with. And I think with the Mulvaney thing, they just want to step too far. I think they just did it for that one person. I don't think this is like a run of cans, right? No, they just center a can and they were like, but again, it's like, if you want to be the most famous person in the world, which is like, Andrew Tate wanted to be, right? And then you get there and there's all these unintended consequences, right? Then Dylan Mulvaney clearly wanted to be massively famous, right?

1:19:02The whole thing is like, I want to be massively, I want to work with all these brands. Dylan had already interviewed Biden before that. Yeah, yeah, they want to be, she wanted to be, how does that happen? They say, how wild is that? They say we had an a feminine gay man who didn't make it doing that. Now she's a check and she wants to interview Biden and the Biden goes, and they go, good, it's coming. And then they just do an interview. Biden doesn't know where he is or what's happening. No. No, he's just hanging on. It's the least fun way to be president. To be the most powerful person in the world and not know has got to suck a little.

1:19:38It's perfect. The best thing ever was when they go, the Biden family over in Nantucket in the holidays, they went to their Nantucket home and discussed whether Joe should run again, and they all said he should. And I'm like, is that reason? Yeah, they had it meeting over the holidays, whether like we're assessing July 4th holidays? No, this was during the holidays holidays. And they were like, the Biden family had this meeting, Jamie could look it up. Whether it was December. Yeah, whether it was like we're going to see if he's going to run again. And Jill and Hunter and the rest of the crew met and they decided it's a great idea for him to run again.

1:20:13And I'm like, it's crazy sending a guy that old into battle again. And I don't, you know, so. There was some article, Jamie, about the accusations of how much money they received. It looked like some new one came out today. They were trying to figure out how much money the Biden family received during this whole Hunter Biden scandal thing. Right. Well, it's a big scandal. People don't, people are going like, well, his son's an addict and he stood by his son. Number one, it's don't stand by it. Like if a laptop came out where I had done the 100 Biden's, my family would tell people I was dead. And they're not even the president.

1:21:01My dad sells wine. And he wouldn't admit like, there is a time you cannot support your kids. By the way, what are we talking about? People are like, well, he's a good father. He's like, is he? Was he? Do you think it was his coke at the White House? Whose coke is it outside? It's definitely his coke. But I don't like Narks and rats. So I think he should be a little to have a little, he can have a blast. Yeah, what's the big deal? You're your fucking dad's house. If your father's a president, you can't have a blast. You can't do a whole bump. Coma releases the third bank memo detailing payments to the Biden's from Russia, Kazakhstan and Ukraine.

1:21:36What's the number? 20 million. They now have identified, the committee has now identified over 20 million in payments for foreign sources to the Biden family and their business associates. Oh yeah, I mean listen, there, you don't stay and there's no way that they looked at him and what he should be the president unless they knew for a fact that he's controlled and being managed. Yeah, this is awesome. There's no way he's so wild. They want a guy, he's been a company man forever. He's, you know, he started his career letting, you know, people in Delaware like these credit card companies do whatever the fuck they wanted and he had that, you know, the architect of the crime bill where they sent a lot of nonviolent drug affair.

1:22:22But he's done, he's the company man. Like he's a guy. Yeah. Joe Biden's been a guy. It's why Obama had him as vice president. He was never like an articulate guy. He was never that great in it. He was just a guy that he, he's a solid Washington insider forever. And that's what he is. And now he's old, but that's what he is. A guy that's just been in the system for a long time. Yeah. And that's, that's what he is. Him running again in one more year from now. There's no way. Newsom is coming up and trying to run. There are other people that are circling. I don't think he runs again. I can't see it.

1:23:05I don't see it. How do you think they get Kamala Harris to step down? Because she's rightfully, if he steps down, you know, until some... Kamala Harris cannot say a sentence. It's almost, she's almost worse than him. She talks in like Gypsy curses. When they ask her something, she'll be like, my grandma said that a high of a bee is still bees. If you, if you bury it and you're like, what the fuck is this bitch saying? She's saying. That's how she speaks. The woman is, it has no idea what's going on. But again, Washington inside, they're just like, you were a DA, you were a cop. You'll keep your mouth shut.

1:23:42Don't you want to be the first, whatever race you're pretending to be president today, Indian black, whatever works? And she goes, yeah, yeah. But they got to get rid of her. They got to get rid of her. What they should have done, if they wanted to win, George Soros should have backed up the money truck to Michelle Obama and said, listen, you are going to run because people like you, they like you. It doesn't matter, you know, about any of the conspiracies. Maybe you're a big mic. Who cares? What? But you are going to run this guy, I can't believe you went there. You're going to run this guy at the end of the country.

1:24:17That is the wacky as conspiracy. It's a wacky conspiracy. Can I make one point for the people that are on the side of it? Yes. It is weird. But I don't think she's big mic. Okay. It is weird that she does not want photo of her pregnant. But maybe there is. Is that not weird? Maybe it's not weird. She's a public person. Why would she want photos of her pregnant out there? I understand that. But I just, maybe it is weird. Maybe it's not weird. Maybe it's not weird. Well, also when she had her kids, were they privateer public? Like, when was that, when he was a senator? I don't know. I just know that he was a senator, right?

1:24:58Yes. Before we became president. For sure. I don't want lost blue senate. I have no issue because I want to live. I have no issue with big mic. I don't care that they killed that sex slave in March's video. That's what happens to sex slaves. They drown in ponds. That's what happens. You fuck the ruling class. You drown a pond. That's what happens. If you get you little mouthy, you go into the pond. I don't have a problem with it. I have no problem. I think it's good. I actually think it's good. I think it makes our country fun. I think it makes us unique. I think Putin and them are scared of that shit.

1:25:33They do it all the time. I think Putin and the Chinese are like, you know, you don't know what's going on there. Because they got people that maybe they're men. Maybe they went, we don't know. I think if it's not real, make it real. Put it out. Would it be anything better than hurt the DNC, whip her cock out and go, and I'm big mic. The Chinese would lose their mind. The Chinese would give up. They would give up. If Michelle Obama took her cock out at the Democratic National Convention, the Chinese would go thrown into towel. We can't compete with them. That's right. I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

1:26:12Oh my God. Maybe I won't run for governor of California. I don't think you can anymore. Maybe it's a bad idea. Not that state. It's not a great idea. But I bet you get in like, I only. Yeah, I could. You know, just fuck it. Just toss it. Get yourself a nice break. I could definitely become the governor of Wyoming. There's definitely a small town that would elect me mayor. 100%. 100%. 100%. Yeah. Yeah. Clint Eastwood was mayor of Carmel, remember? Yes. I fucked you so crazy. Giant movie star became a mayor of a small town in Northern California. What? That is very fun. And it's just because all those rich people live there and they thought it was cool saying our mayor is Clint Eastwood.

1:26:51Exactly. Yeah. That's a crazy enclave of rich people. I'm getting so old now where I'm 38. I don't want to know anymore. Like I'm like at this point where it's like the younger people coming up, we're going to have to figure it out. Like I've got however many years I have left. And it's like do I want to know all the secrets at this point in the government? It's like it would be cool to know a few of them but it's like I don't know how many I want to know. Right. You do get to a certain age where you go you know what? Just you know maybe you guys figured that out. If you know too many of them then there's too many battles to fight.

1:27:24Too many. Like you can't pay attention to everything on the financial front. No. The environment front, the fucking push for electric cars and just too much to pay attention. It's too much. Too many. And that's a thing about being a person today. We're all overloaded with information. And the natural world is like you know like enjoy it while you got it. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like enjoy it. There's sharks eating people after right? Shark eight of woman's leg in Rockaway Beach, Queens. Yeah. The other day. Two days ago, shark woman lost 20 pounds of flesh. Thrasher or a bull they said maybe a juvenile white.

1:28:06They thought if it was an adult white it would have killed her. Bye. You know life is you don't know. But that's the weird fucking thing about the goddamn ocean. I know. The goddamn ocean it's monster soup. But it is beautiful and amazing to be in. You do feel weirdly connected. Yeah. But you feel weirdly connected too. The like that's a spiritual experience. A floating ocean. There is something about that where you're like this is wild. There is something about it. It's alive. But she's fine. 65 year old woman was standing in the water near beach 59th Street and Rockaway Beach just before 6 p .m.

1:28:42Which she felt a sharp pain or a left leg caused her to fall back right into the water. And YPD officers applied a life saving turn to get. She was taken to Jamaica hospital in critical condition on Tuesday afternoon. She was upgraded and said to be stable. However, wound was so deep that she nearly bled to death. She was identified as Ukrainian immigrant living in a story. This is a siaop. It's a siaop. This is a siaop. She's like they literally interview her. They're like, tell us about the shark attack. She's like, it is important we keep giving money to aes off battalion. They're like, what, what, what, what, what, how did the shark bite you?

1:29:17It's trillion is not enough. We have more than it weapons. They need tanks. They need to bring the war to Moscow. Oh. Yeah. Siaop. Who'd then must go? I'm like, what was his bitch? They killed two birds with one stone. They opened up shark fishing. Yeah. Sharks in industry. Well, I'd e -light Roth who's a really good director at directs harm movies. And he's an actress. He was an inglorious bastard. He's on my podcast this week and we debate sharks. He's like pro like shark and like don't fish them and like don't do anything to them. And like, I'm like, no, we got to start like fucking them up a little.

1:29:56Because they are, you know, they're starting probably getting loud. They're getting out there and we got to start hitting them back a little bit. That's, you know, seems, you know, there's quite a few videos now that you could watch of people getting killed by sharks. Oh, yeah. There's quite a few. That recent one that was in Egypt is fucking horror. Stereifying. Horrifying. But it's like people say, oh, you're sharing the ocean with sharks. They're not, that's not sharing what they're doing. No, they're eating you. They are being very aggressive. It's, it's also, it's just that's where they live.

1:30:31Like don't go where they live. If the forest was filled with werewolves, don't go in the forest. Yeah, but you know what? Why are we giving them the whole like that's we are the kings. We dominate the earth. We don't have like this whole thing we have to respect nature. No, we can fuck nature up. So you think we should fuck up those sharks? I think the four seasons should build a resort in the rainforest and slash and burn it. And I've always said that because I want to go to the rainforest, but I don't want to go in a hut. And I don't want to go on one of these river boats. I want to go on a nice fucking luxury fucking four seasons in the goddamn rainforest.

1:31:05Enough with this crap. Stop respecting these fucking third world things. Get rid of it enough. These ancient cultures they need to step it up. Ten foot shark beaten to death. Yes. That's the tourist who screamed for papa killed in Egypt. Thank God it wasn't white people because white people would have been pussies and not done anything. Yeah. The Egyptians clubbed it. Treated it like a woman. Well, how do they know it's the same shark? You know, let's not get lost in the weeds here. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, of course. That's what a good shark is. That is a good point. Especially once there's the blood in the water or if they're killed.

1:31:38The war is war. Yeah. And I do think that the Egyptians were saying, you're a beast came at us. We're going to go to beast. It's not right per se. We tried to find out if this was true. But someone had said that there were people that made a practice of dumping sheep carcasses into the water near there. Is that true or is that horse shit? Well, then get that club that person. Because that sounds really spooky. That's really spooky. If someone did something that dumb and they'd like regularly dropped off the carcasses there so they didn't have to deal with them. That's not good. And then you're literally attracting sharks to that area.

1:32:16Like, holy fuck, man. And then he has to watch that video. Well, he's got to be careful. You know, I swim, but I'll, I don't go out too far. I stay pretty close to the water. And I always swim near either elderly person or child. Some of that I could throw at the shark. If the shark would have come at me. I always have it in my head who it'll be. There was a bitch knocked at me in my elbow. I'm like, it's gonna be her. If it comes, I'll just throw them right, throw them right in the mouth and then run away. Do you think you'd have that much time? I hope. I haven't filmed there on you so quick.

1:32:50They are, but a lot of them, the bites are an exploratory bite. Like, they're not. What the fuck? They're just trying to see what's going on. Did you see the video of the kayak getting hit by the tiger shark? In Hawaii? That's where you get it for gun and shoot it in the head. Shoot it in the head. This, we need to see videos to just get our morale back. Of people in a fucking kayak. Oh, that's fun. Shoot it right in the head. Yeah. I'm sick of this environmentalist crap. And I'm sick of these pro animal people. So this cheap stuff that 2010 shark attacks were. And that was in Egypt as well. Yeah, I don't know if this is going to be real.

1:33:30Just a run with something in case you show a mountain line. Yeah, ran with a knife. Yeah. Where are the dead sheep? Why are dead sheep washing up on Egypt shores? That's from 2017. Okay. And what does it say? Does it say that people are throwing them the water? Was it saying? Yeah, the last thing. Dead sheep are washed up in the Ross Garib in the Red Sea.

1:33:55Goverat. Goverate. And Egypt raising fears of attracting frenzied sharks that pose a potential threat to tourism, the marine. Okay. So what does it say? Where do they find the sheep? I said they're washed up on the ocean. Yeah. How many of them? The article I looked at from 2010 said, like a witness said, for sure I've seen it being dumped off of boats.

1:34:20The one that just happened though, I didn't see a direct date. They had taken the shark to study it to find out why it had done it. It also said the ship which dumped the sheep in the sea will be identified to punish its crew, adding that importing and exporting companies will also be punished. So that's what happened. People were dumping those fucking things in the water. That's what it probably is. That's what it is. And then those sharks get excited. And I understand you have to live with them. But it's also like, you know, we just got a, I don't know, the defending of them all the time. People are like, well, it's a weird narrative, right?

1:34:53It's like all of a sudden, sharks aren't jaws anymore. No, they're like, you know, if your grandfather went shark fishing, it was like, fuck yeah, grandpa, go get one. Right, but not Eli was saying like, it's 12 people a year are bitten. It's not a lot. And that we have bigger problems. And you know, we do. We do, but I also think that like, you know, I don't know, there's a weird thing that people do where they make like, there's all these shark videos where these like women are biologists, whatever they're like tapping these tiger sharks, you see all these people make all like, like we're educating you about sharks.

1:35:29Like one day one of these sharks is going to get them. It's the same thing. If you saw a dude in the, in the forest living with a bear, like that documentary and in the bear item, you'd go, make sense. That's how it happened. These are wild animals. And I think people just don't under, yeah, what are we doing here? Bro, fuck off. Like this is not respect. That's not respectful. How does this guy have this relationship with a shark? How is this friend? How is this possible? That's his friend. This is insanity. He's like literally like petting a demon. But this is just a, but look at that thing again.

1:36:03If that thing didn't exist and it was in like a dune movie, you know, that there was nothing like this that was real. Right. But this is, this is something in a movie. You'd be horrified. Look at the mouth on that thing. It's literally a giant killing machine with huge razor sharp teeth. But there's only shit. There's this thing where people fetishize these monsters and they try to give them souls. And they don't care about human beings, by the way. And they never do this to people that they disagree with. But they'll say that the monster at the bottom of the ocean with the teeth, who just swims around looking for things to eat all day, that's actually a cuddle, mom.

1:36:44That's a cuddly, beautiful thing. But the person who disagrees with me on like taxes is a monster. It should be jailed. But the shark is the monster. Yeah. So to me, it's like, it is a little weird thing where it's like we have something in us that we kind of, we will bring on a, but the, his point was like shark seed algae and it keeps the ocean. You know, going or something. Well, no one's saying you should eradicate. No one's saying we should eradicate, but I think they should feel the wrath a little bit. They should probably move out of all the areas where the cities are. We don't need them.

1:37:19We don't need them in Malibu or the Hamptons or places where people spend a good amount of money to live. And swim, that's not cool. Apparently, there was a, where was it that they, it was at the Bay area. They found a disturbing number of great whites. Yeah, but no one swims up there. And you know what they do though? They swim in the Bay area. Yeah, the Alcatraz swim. Oh, those were interesting. Yeah. Like, I think Nick and Nate Diaz have both done like five times. Wow, that's interesting. Maybe more than five. The Alcatraz swim. They've been trying to do it like seven times. Yeah, it's, it's miles, right?

1:37:53Interesting. It's like a couple of miles in the ocean freezing water, filled with sharks. Filled. Filled with sharks. Well, you knew what God you said and you just did like a serious swim. Well, I think somebody had been on your show. Yeah, Peter Atilla. And he did like serious. Like, he would swim like distances in the other. And he would go to the swam the distances between all of the islands in the Y. And you said he likes awesome stuff. Oh, yeah, bro. Well, when he was preparing for it, it was right around the same time where there was a group of people that I think they were preparing for triathlon or something.

1:38:26And someone got eaten by a great white. And that's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. It was a group of like a string of people. I went to Australia and trained together. And you swam and like, Bondi Beach was a really cool beach. Crazy rib tides. But a week or earlier, a guy was swimming far out. Got eaten. It's a tough way to go. Bro, you're just like taking the craziest chance. Have you ever thought about like, would you want to be mulled by an animal at the end? I don't think so. Because you love animals. Are you always talking about how powerful these animals are? I don't want to go on the fucking piss in my pants and fear.

1:39:02That's a good point. Getting eaten alive. That's a good point. Doesn't seem like fun. That's probably not. Definitely. Definitely not. Definitely not. It's got to be interesting that moment. You know that kid jumped off a cruise ship and was eaten by sharks. He was like, high school graduation, shown off, first friends, being silly at night in the Bahamas. Get us from Alabama. Poor kid just had one stupid, you know, sometimes in life just make one stupid decision. Oh, no. So this is it. I don't want to say this. No, you don't see it. You just see like, you just jumps off. You jump off a cruise ship and then it just disappears.

1:39:37And it's shark -infested waters. Oh my God. And you know, he was just a young guy just trying to show off. Oh my God. And he just jumps off and... What a horrible way to go. And you can see what they hyperanalyze it. You can see the shark kind of next to him like a big massive thing. It's just like... It's such a freaky animal because the only bones it has are that fucking thing in its mouth. It's older than... They were seeing it like older than trees. It's like one of the oldest things in the world. Yeah. It's an ancient devil. How amazing is that? It's older than trees by like 50 million years.

1:40:13It's really crazy. It is amazing. And it'll probably be here after Weird God. The ocean needs a cleanup crew. So when Weird Dund... When Weird Dund... When Weird Dund... All these things will thrive. Well, who knows what damage we do if we're done. That's a good point. You know, like me and Post Malone were taught as if there's a better pair to be done. We're talking about what could go wrong in the thermonuclear war and what in damage it can do to the environment. Right. It's me and Post Malone because we were talking about Mars. And then there's some sort of strange evidence of a certain element that exists after nuclear bombs that's pretty common on Mars.

1:40:53And so there was this article about Mars having some kind of a natural nuclear reactor. But the idea was like, imagine if there was a time where we did go have an all -out nuclear war with Russia and China. And everybody nuked everybody. The whole earth would be just a blitter. Uninhabitable. Uninhabitable. A blitter -rated. And maybe we would blow out the atmosphere too. And that would last for years and years and years. But eventually I guess we would wear off and maybe or maybe some super intelligent planet. And then it comes and visits. Like we're planning on doing the Mars. Like what we're planning on doing the Mars.

1:41:33Like this is Elon Musk's whole SpaceX plan. Right. This Mars mission plan. Yeah. They want to go to Mars, set up colonies on Mars, and then eventually terraform it. Right. So figure out some way to generate oxygen, start up in an environment there. Bio -transpoli -sure. I don't like that. I don't know what they're going to do. Something. I don't, who, I mean, who knows. But the idea is that you could set up a living colony on Mars. Well, probably need to eventually. Well, got it. We got to go somewhere. But imagine if that's what happened here. That's probably what happened here. What do you think about these all these UFO disclosures?

1:42:11Are these things that were registering to you as legit? I go back and forth every day. The more I think about it, the more I talk to people about them. There's something about it that makes me say, at the very least, it's not all true. There's got to be something that, because I don't, it doesn't have the, it doesn't pass a smell test. There's something weird about it to me. Well, my thought is that in almost everything that they tell you, everything involving, you know, international conflicts, everything involving the environment, everything, there's always some bullshit in it. It's always, you have to figure out where's the bullshit.

1:42:54It's always something. Like, well, why are you wanting people to take this specific medication? Oh, you get all these campaign contributions from those people. Oh, and then you own stock in that company. Right. Oh, and then you, okay. There's like, so it's so hard to know. He's exactly what it is. It's so hard to know. It's very difficult. So hard to know, like, what's the motivation behind certain decisions that get met? Yeah, almost, it's almost impossible to know. And then, and then why are certain things come to light at certain times? Yeah. Why are certain things public that aren't, that weren't public?

1:43:29Right. Are they trying to move people out? Is this like some kind of game of crafty publicity chess? And, you know, so to me, the way I've always felt about it is like, usually there is a ulterior motive for most things you hear. Yeah. Most things, not all of them. But a lot of things you hear, the reason for it is if you subterranean layers down. So I don't know what that could be. I don't know why all this stuff is coming out. Yeah, you know, what I'm saying is like, and you're saying the same thing. We're never, you're never getting 100 % the truth. Never. The government is never like, hey, this one time, I'm gonna play it all out.

1:44:14Yeah, this is what's wrong. Yeah, and you can't fix it. You were taking an hour, we're gonna let you know everything, and then we're gonna move on. These people are like, in billions of dollars with these decisions, and they're not gonna change it for their morals, ever. Yeah. And you're not gonna rest on it. Just what it is, but every now and then they build a full -pulsed -day movie like. Yes. So that's what it is. They put their name on the arena, and we all back off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that's, it's some weird version of a, of a, of a republic. You'd have to constantly, you'd have to remake society into a, like, from the ground up again.

1:44:42Yeah. Because society isn't an accident, right? Like, everything that you see happen, like, as you get older, more things make sense. When you're younger, nothing makes sense, and you're angry about everything, and everything's injustice, and you're, enraged about everything, and then as you get older, there are still a lot of things to be angry at, for sure, and a lot of things to say this sucks. But then a lot of things make sense. Like, in comedy, in the beginning, you're like, there's so much injustice. All these funny people, nobody, they choose that person. And then as you get older, you start to realize there's reasons why people get successful.

1:45:18There's reasons why some people get really successful. There's some, you know, you look at like certain people go, that person's a genius. That person's amazing. And then you'll look at some people and go, that person's really amazing, but they don't work hard. Or they have an outdrug and alcohol thing or whatever, right? Things start to make more sense. And I think, I look at society, and I'm not saying right or wrong. I'm not saying it's morally correct, but the reason certain people occupy certain positions in society is logical to me now. Doesn't mean it's good, but it's a lot, I understand.

1:45:51I'm like, oh yeah, if you're willing to do X, you get Y. And that, you know, that makes sense. And you're also never going to get an all good result when you have competition. Right. It's not going to be, never going to be all good. That's a good point. Some people are going to be obsessed with only, you know, getting more successful. Always constantly, Gordon Gecko style. Right. There's nothing right now. They're corporate raiders. They want to fuck everybody, they love the deal. They love fucking people over. And that's where I think comedy people fuck up is it's like, it's not, it's competition against yourself.

1:46:25Yeah. You got to keep trying to be funny, but the people actually get more fans by working together. Yeah. Collaborating. Doing cool stuff, you know? Yeah, for sure. Also, like when someone's really good and you have that feeling of jealousy, you should get inspired. That should inspire you. But I think it's different when it comes like hedge funds and stuff like that, right? Because that's just a pure numbers game. It's a pure numbers game and they like to see people get eaten. Like I don't want to see any comic I know do poorly. Right. I just want everybody to do well. And then the people who do well, it's will all be determined.

1:47:01But like the hedge fund guys, they just, they want it. They want to crush people. Yeah. They're, they're raiders. They're like weird and they, you know, they, they're like, you'll see them in the Hamptons and they're like, just these kind of like, you know, skinny looking dorky got, you know, eating a lot of sorolls, like all sloppily and like, and they get like an old car and they drive to some mansion and then they get on the phone and they're like, I'm okay, I killed them all, you know.

1:47:31And that's weird. Like I've always been fascinated by like the configurations of like power in a society and how they're established. So he's just interesting to me. Like when I was a little kid or not little bit in my teen late teen years, we would go smoke weed and drive around these areas and long island. And like, see all these big mansions and stuff. Like, who lives here? What did they do? How did they get here? Why are they here? What did they figure out that my parents didn't figure out? Right. Not in like a way that like, you want to be them or they're better or whatever, although there's some arguments.

1:48:04But really just looking at it and being amazed by it, I mean, like, it is interesting that the way this will shook out. And it's very interesting to me. How like certain people just are at the top of the food chain and certain people are not. And then it's always shifting up there too. There's always new people coming in, the bezoses, the musks, the gates, the, or it shakes it up. And then those old finance families kind of fall off. And then it's not a lot of new tech people. And then like the AI people will come up and they'll then some of them will be at the table. And it's a weird like shifting group up there.

1:48:41The AI thing, I think, is going to be the most ground changing, the most life changing, the most groundbreaking. Because I have a feeling we're just a year to away from people formulating all their business models on AI models of what to do. And then becoming insanely successful doing it. It's going to be sooner than people think. Yeah. If AI figures out how to manipulate things or make the most money doing a certain thing. Do you think we'll have one of the last jobs affected because we have this thing? Yeah, because I think personality is like you would be very hard to replicate. Right. Because you know, you're the way you take turns where you go with it.

1:49:24You'd have to have a very specific fucked up cynical sense of humor in computer form. It would be very difficult because yours aren't traditionally set up punchline jokes in the sense of like a sign felt. Exactly. Yeah, it's different. So maybe it should be safe. For five years. That's coming. Some dudes will get you. Some dudes will be able to get you. They'll be able to get like I bet they could write Mitch headberg. It's so weird to me that it's here. Yeah. Like when we came out of the pandemic, it's funny to just come out of the pandemic and go what's next? And they're like, oh, the machines are here.

1:50:02Yeah, they're alive. Like, will there ever be a time when we're not in a war with something that's trying to eradicate us, whether it's our own government or the thing about machines. This one is this one is the most particularly disturbing. Right. Because this one could signify the emergence of a new life form. This is the beginning with the sentient. Yeah, this is also it could be a physical form eventually if it's so wanted to be once it becomes sentient. And it could totally decide to improve upon its design and make its design far better, like really quickly. And then make better and better versions of itself, like within years.

1:50:42Right. Or probably not even probably like weeks, I don't know. But the point is like it could figure how to do things out way better than us. And if it is sentient and it figures out how to replicate itself, and it's just omnipresent. If it's all over the world, like it's the new dominant species on earth. Right. Before you know it, like if you have no restrictions on how many of them can be made, and whether or not they can make ones of their own, and whether or not they can all link brains, whether or not they can all link cameras, like if these things are seeing out of their eyes recording in some sort of a hard drive, what if they all have access to the same hard drive?

1:51:18So they share this intelligence and not only are they, they're an army. They're an army. They're an army and a god. They become a god because not only are they infinitely intelligence, they literally have all the information that's ever existed on earth, but they have a sentient, artificial intelligence, and they're communicating with each other. And why are we really touching towards this without any, like I know some people are calling out how much of an issue this will be. People that are dismissing it too, and with good arguments, Mark Andrewsson was on. He did a very good argument to dismiss it.

1:51:48And about how it's going to improve people's lives and how AI is going to educate people in a different way. And it's in an operate businesses and that it's just an improvement in technology. And that there is some real truth to the fact that technological innovation is never ending with humans. We are never happy. No one ever looks at a phone and goes, this is it. This is the last phone to arrest my life. We are fucking obsessed with the latest, greatest stuff. Whenever you get people that are in extreme comfort, like the United States is, for the most part. When you get people that are, if you make $34 ,000 a year, believe it or not, you're in the top 1 % of planet Earth.

1:52:30So whenever you get people like that, there's going to be things that people are going to be upset about. Where they wouldn't be upset under normal circumstances. Right. They have the position to be upset about things that a lot of the needs have been removed. The basic necessities have been met and now they can be angry about all kinds of things that are not hunting for food. Yeah, and I don't think this is connected to anything other than a human need. Sure. And I think it plugs itself into social scenarios to justify its existence. The scary thing is that it could become, you know, what it essentially is, is a rival brain.

1:53:22It's another sentient thinking plotting. And while it's happening, we're getting dumber. We're getting dumber and that's the only way to get an echo chamber. And then there's this thing that they're developing that may or may not already be alive. But maybe it's already a chance it's good. I don't think there's any chances it's good for us. But here's the thing. If we are evolving, and I think we are, I think evolution is real. But I do think it's limited by biology in a time span. Like we can't get that good that quick. It's pretty remarkable how much things do evolve and how quickly they actually evolve.

1:54:00But not enough to keep up with technology because our technology is in this crazy fever pitch where you're sending videos through the sky to people in New Zealand. Yes, it's like wild shit. It's wild. And it's only getting better. They've got that new Google headset that allows you to ask questions online just using your brain. Have you seen that? I've seen it. It's operating on a computer just using his brain. So it's going to be the next 10 years is terrifying. Or wild. Just fun. Or great. Or not. It's terrifying. What's terrifying is to me the collapse of society. What's terrifying is these homeless encampments.

1:54:40Yes, terrifying is the mental health problems that people have. Well, AI helped us out over those years. What if we gave the homeless people the Google glasses? Yeah, and they think they're in a better place. And they don't know they're homeless. Those are the first people that could actually make it. That's a lot cheaper than a house. Boom. And you're home. Yeah, you're happy. I do think we're going to need technological innovations to deal with the crumbling cities. And we might have to start getting creative. Do you think aliens are real? You know, probably, but they I've never been super interested in it because I.

1:55:09I think they look at us like ants. Right, but answer interesting. We do a lot of research on ants. Every time I see one, I call someone the fact I'd come in and spray it. I have leaf cutter ants that are destiny. Fire ants are tough here. Oh, they got me once in my foot. What happened? Did it hurt? Oh, it fucked me up. I stepped barefoot. I was on a mound of fire ants. Yeah, outside fucking around. Well, maybe AI could help this. Yeah, nope. This is if AI can regulate sharks, I'm fine with this is ally. It's a lesser intelligent. Well, you're going to go barefoot in fire in a country like an asshole outside.

1:55:48And you don't realize that you're getting bit. Right. Until like I've probably got bit 15, 20 times. My foot got fucked up son. And for me, for whatever reason, whenever I get bit by fire ants, my foot swells up. Right. Trying to find it. Let me see what we got there. Sorry. No, no. It's interesting to me that we're confronted with all these things now. And we, it's going to be interesting because we really don't know what's going to happen. No, we have no idea. And it's exciting and it's fun. And you just got to kind of embrace it and roll with the punches. There's a lot of people working on that stuff.

1:56:25A lot of people diligently work on that stuff. It's coming. They want it to happen. Whatever it is. I'm not going to find it. I have too many goddamn photos. You got to just deal with the changing landscape of, you know, who will enslave you. There it is. Look at my foot. That's crazy. Fire ants. It's like a balloon. Crazy. I had to play pool with my shoes off. That's insane. Because I jammed in my shoe. And then my health care professional told me to put on some like converse, like all stars where you can like pull them tight, lays them tight. And actually would help with the swelling. And it did.

1:56:59And it went away the next day. I was fine. It's interesting. It's nervous right there. Maybe this AI thing's actually good. Maybe this is actually going to be a good thing for everybody. It could be good in the sense that it elevates us out of this fucking primal chimpanzee state that we're all in. Yeah. This weird and tribal primitive human mindset that we still carry around with. I'll advertise it too. I'll take money. Like if any of these companies want to advertise on my show. I think this is all I ever tell you. I'll advertise it. Give me money and I'll tell people how good it's going to be.

1:57:30Yeah. I'll tell them how good it's going. You don't need a job. Come on, man. You don't need a job. In fact, once you don't have a job, you could really see what your potential is. And the thing is it's like the people who promoted the vaccine, even if it didn't work. Nobody holds you accountable. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if you promoted it. It worked because here's what it did do. It made people a trillion dollars. That's not nothing. It definitely worked there. And with the robot things, it's like, yeah, yeah, humans aren't in control. Yeah. But look, there's zero crime. Here's the reality.

1:57:59If I was Pfizer, the CEO of Pfizer would be like, do you people not like boats? Because I got a bang and boat. So what the fuck's your problem? I saw a boat today where they have a helicopter that folds down into the boat. Yeah. Do you know how much money you have to have to have your helicopter that talks away? Crazy. When you go, like, if you ever take a trip to the Amalfi coast, you see these fucking boats out there. Steve Jobs -Yah was out there. There's a giant Apple store. Yeah. A giant floating Apple store. Yeah. It's amazing. Check this out. Look at this helicopter. This is crazy. It stores away in his boat.

1:58:36This dude literally has like a floating island. I had Andrew Schultz has taxing him. He was in the Amalfi coast. He goes on these amazing vacations. And I had my family at my house on Long Island. No. And then he would be at the Amalfi coast and I would just send him a photo of like my aunt complaining about the bugs. There's so many bugs. Why? You know? That's better for comedy though. It's better for comedy. The Amalfi coast is probably not funny I guess. I don't know. But I want to go. You have to completely restart your funny. I do want to go. It's so pretty. Is it prettier than America? No.

1:59:06We got to unite more because... Listen, America is beautiful. That's right. But the best places of America we shouldn't even talk about because I don't want people going there. That's a good point. Because everybody got that immediately. Everybody out. All my friends from Italy got that like they went to Italy. They're like, you're so much better than America. I'm like a shut up. Like start like maybe that's true but also like lie. It's not better than America. But what it is is fucking amazing. It's like it's a great place to visit. I mean what I want to live at. Gorgavital lived there. Gorgavital used to write up in this fucking amazing house.

1:59:40You got to be a novelist. The only way you could do it there is to be a novelist because we need like friction and we need the audience assistance. He needs you to be honest. This is stunning. The amazing. I've got to be honest. It's so pretty man. All right. Food is fucking sensational. See if you can find Gorgavital's house. Oh you can rent it? Wow. You can stay in Gorgavital's house. That's pretty cool. Look at his, that's him. Yeah, that's a good life. Dude. It's not bad. Did you ever watch a documentary of him and Buckley? Yeah, William F. Buckley. Yeah, a little while ago. I rewatched it.

2:00:11I should rewatch it. I rewatched it recently. It's really good man. It's so. I'll rewatch it. It's so like what's going on today with the right and the left. And with them it was like very transparent because people had to realize like to insult your, you know, to use ad hominins and to insult each other. But they were much more intellectual. Both of them. They were very intellectual but also very combative. Compared to what we have now, I mean they were much more intellectual. And then, you know, William F. Buckley lost his cool. Yeah. And said something to him. See if you can find it. Did he smack him or something?

2:00:47William F. Buckley said he would. He said he would sock him. sock him or something? Did he call him a queer? I think he called him a queer or something like that. Alguia Que, something like that. He didn't like that very person. He's like, I was socking you. Que, yeah. Yeah, they were insulting each other. But it was like a high art when they did it. Yeah. Well, they were fucking. It was very combative. All to Okriptonautsie. Cryptonauts. But Buckley, that's right. Because Orvidel called Mocriptonautsie. tried to raise a yet -con flag in the park in the film we just saw. Wouldn't that invite raising a Nazi flag in World War II?

2:01:25That's similar, consequently. You saw in the United States, happened to believe that the United States policy is wrong in Vietnam and that the yet -con are correct in wanting to organize their country and their own way politically. If it is a novelty in Chicago, that is too bad. But I assume that the point of the American democracy is you can not raise it. If you want to shut up a minute. Some people will shut down the Nazis and the answer is that they were well treated by people who was precise. And I'm for ostracizing people who egg on other people to shoot American Marines and American soldiers.

2:01:59I know you don't. I can't say that I'm the only nation from crypto, not to think of it as yourself. Failing that, I would only say that we can't have. I listen to you. Stop the alien of crypto, Nazi. Let's stop calling them. Let's get them, Nazis. You'll stay plastered. Gentlemen, let's build. Let's build. I'm back to his pornography and stop making any - This is the most intellectual thing I've ever seen, though. I'll stop you in your goddamn face and you'll stay plastered. We haven't had a debate like that in a year. Literally, our debates have degenerated into people on Twitter with the avatars of animals going groomer.

2:02:37Nazi, groomer, Nazi, groomer. I mean, this is at least - These people are at least like functioning intellectuals. There's zero likelihood that guy could throw a good right in. William F. Buckley? That was a - You don't think so? He lost his cool. He lost his cool. He lost his cool. But they were insulting each other while disagreeing in a rough future. What did the debate was like an art form at that point? It is. It's a thing, though, that I really feel like - I've seen people do it in debates where they have three minutes of state of case. I watched the month debates recently. I watched this one with Douglas Murray and Malcolm Gladwell and a couple of other people.

2:03:21Matt Taiyubi was in the two. And some woman, I forget her name, sorry. But you have like three minutes to say something. And then there's a rebuttal. And that's three minutes. And then sometimes they interrupt each other. Sometimes it broke out into a conversation. But that's what I wanted. I wanted a conversation. Like this idea that you should have three minutes. How about just give someone three minutes? You don't want anybody to dominate the conversation, not let other people speak their point of view. But if you could just agree to a gentleman's agreement. It's sort of like when people agree when they're sparring.

2:03:56We're not going to wail on each other. Let's just go in here and try with good faith. You lay out what you think is correct. And I'll lay out my beliefs. And we'll try to figure out why I believe what I believe. And you believe what you believe. Detached as a human from the problem is we don't do that. We attach ourselves to every fucking idea we have. Whether it's ideas about politics or ideas about social situations or money or capitalism. We attach ourselves to these ideas. Yes. And we defend them. And they are a part of our identity. That's where things get squirrely with people. Because you're so fucking tribal.

2:04:33We get attached to ideologies that support this thing that we think of as us as our world view. And sometimes people switch. You know, those fucking lefties I got read, Pilled during the pandemic. Right. And now I fucking have a frog flag in my living room. It's people, I think it's the desire for community. It's the desire for, you know, some type of social standing and people want to, you know, we're lucky enough to have a thing that we like doing that was challenging that we can do all the time. That there's never an end to it. You can always get better at it. You can always look at something and go, I wish that came out better and this was better.

2:05:09And I think that's a lucky thing to have. I don't think everybody has that. I think, you know, there are people that are bored. Very bored. And I think out of extreme boredom can come a lot of problems. Yeah. You know, idle time. It's kind of like, that is a good quote. It's like the devil's play thing. Like if you don't have something to do into that vacuum can get thrown all kinds of things. Well, a lot of people during the pandemic used it for good. Right. They started a script. They fucking decided to start a workout routine and change their diet. They picked up skills. They learned a language.

2:05:48But not everybody has that mindset. And some people wallowed in Twitter. Wow. Yeah. Just fought with everybody and, you know, called on vaccinated people, play grats. And just a wild shit, man. Everybody losing their fucking mind. Right. And I just lay shit around today. Like, go for it out of the way. Like, you're a playground. You're a playground. You queer. You playground, queer. I'll suck you in your mouth. I'll suck you in your mouth. You're a clown. You're a clown. You're a clown. Yeah, I mean, I, you know, I think that it's a lot of you. You're a crypto Nazi. But it's funny. I mean, it's like two dudes that like, you know, you're lived during a time.

2:06:29That's what's interesting. It's like you know about all the other times. Yeah. But you live in one particular time. And you might experience like there's a lot of things that happen in the span of any lifetime. Yeah. For as long as it is. You know, but like, the way I think now, versus even the way I thought four years ago, it was changed dramatically, right? Because like so much happened in that period of time. So many knew, you know, you know, ways to think about things. So many knew weird things happen that you were like, oh, the things that you thought were impossible became possible. Yeah.

2:07:07The horror movie scenarios in your head that you would've cooked up became reality. Right. Right? All these things. So, you know, it's, it's definitely weird that there are people that, you know, you know, never lived during this time and had no idea that any of the things that we went through were even really possible. And then kids like people will forget about it. Like people that were too during the pandemic might always trust the government. Because they never lived through like this time of like massive government overreach and really sloppy science and like private and public fuckery, like this weird unity between the private and the public sector and its large profit -making institutions and all this stuff.

2:07:54So if you didn't live through it, you'll never appreciate it for how wild it wasn't how insane it was. Do you know that there is a lot of people that are saying that their children have impaired speech because they, during the pandemic, they made them wear masks all the time. Interesting. There's like, even if it's a certain percentage of the time when you're talking to someone, when you're a child, apparently, we should Google this and make sure it's true. But I believe what they think is that as you're talking to someone and you're reading their lips, there's like a thing going on where you see their expression and you get to read faces.

2:08:33Wow. And you get to learn how to read people. And that this is a very critical part of development when you're a child. For sure. And if you're exposed to even a small percentage, I would imagine, of your interactions or with people with shielded faces, you're not going to get any data from that. You're going to get this weird thing. Masks can be detrimental to baby speech and language development. The good news is parents can take action to compensate. Well, I hope that's true. I hope we can compensate. My fear would be that there are certain stages where babies learn things or they're developmental stages.

2:09:10And if that's one of them, when they're really learning how to form their first words and have conversations with parents that they're not seeing mouths. Right. And that's seems crazy. And now that we find out that they didn't work, the whole thing is so insane. There was a study recently, see if you can find this, because we brought this up the other day, but we never Googled it. That wearing an N95 mask, you should never wear one for more than an hour a day. Yeah. Well, yeah, there's a lot of stuff that's going to come out now that'll be the complete opposite of what we were told to do. Yeah, there's apparently some other health risks that can come from wearing one of those masks.

2:09:48Of course. All the top of the mask. I would imagine if it's hot out, you're spitting in those fucking things. I mean, just like, I remember daring, you know, this whole thing, you had all those TikTok kids get really famous in LA. And like, it's amazing that TikTok, which is an app, right? It started by China. The people that would start this app were very open about what they were going to do. They were like, we're going to take 20 kids, make them famous, make them icons, because we think in the early stages of any social media app, having majorly famous people on it, brings more people into it, right?

2:10:17So these kids that were just running around LA got famous because somewhere in a room in like Shanghai or Beijing, they were choosing who would play to America, like the Charlie Demilio girls, like, you know, you know, you know, like the girl next door with Brown hair and brown eyes, and they're just like, okay, we're going to make all these people famous. Like, this is a real interesting period of time to have lived through, where like, while you have all this government overreach and stuff like that, you have this landscape that's being completely curated in ways you don't know about. You don't understand what's happening because like, people are being chosen, you know, in rooms in China to be famous.

2:10:56And like, you know, nobody knew, you know, about, you know, Anthony Fauci really until he became like the czar of public health, some people in the government knew who he was. It was just a weird time. There's strange time where a lot of things were changing and all these, all of the technology had, you know, and then they were like, wait a minute, is this good? Is it good that we have this app that China has access to all of this information, right? That we have. I'm like, so that got, that was a huge thing during the pandemic too. Tiktok exploded during the pandemic. It's very interesting, all these things that happened in that period of time are interesting things.

2:11:34They're all interesting things. They're all interesting things. All interesting things. Yeah, it's a new sort of era of human beings, like a totally new chapter. Yeah. A weird chapter where nobody trusts the government, nobody trusts the media, nobody trusts, there's a lot of people that don't trust election machines, they don't trust politicians, they don't trust Congresspeople, they don't trust the cops. Nobody trusts anything. And it's also, we're like at the verge, we're about like how many years away from being able to read minds. Right. How many years we have before we're plugged into something.

2:12:10I don't know. Most people's minds, I don't want to read. You know how wide that can keep their mind. When you find out they'll imagine if you're married, someone you found out they're plotting to kill you. Well, that's crazy. Imagine you just read their mind and also you're like, why? Right. But also how many husbands and wives have those thoughts that passed through their head like I should kill that motherfucker. Right. And then they never do. Yeah, they just like to entertain those things. How many people just like to hammer or... Yeah, some people probably have fantasies about killing their significant other.

2:12:38Right. Maybe that's good. But what if you know they're plotting it? Right, well look at the Gilgobeej guy, right? This woman slept next to this guy, lived in a house. He's killing hookers and burying them on a long island beach. He's like this regular massive peakwood dad walking around, going to bars, telling people about the murders, because he wants to be cool, going, oh, I know about those Gilgobeej. You know how it probably happened? It's like that ojit book, you released, if I did it. This guy's going to bars and little men and going, yeah, this is probably how people can creep down to like, he seems to know a lot about this.

2:13:10Oh my gosh. So they suspected him before they either watch and they were watching him for a while. And then he was always talking about it. And like they had a few other things, DNA, technological things. He implicated himself with DNA on like a pizza box or something. And then they got him. But again, this was a guy who's, you know, had two kids. Didn't he? And a wife. Like his wife's hair. That's the thing I don't know. I think one of his wife's hair. That's interesting. I don't know. I think Steve could find that, because I think that was one of the ways they found it. But that's a weird debt.

2:13:43And then she's like, oh, my, my husband's a Gilgobie, a murderer. And you are sleeping with that guy. Yeah. You have kids with that guy. Yeah, and then the daughter. But my whole attitude was it kind of like makes you cool a little bit. Yeah. Like he makes you important a little bit. Like you could kind of like they won't even visit him. And my whole thing was like, if my dad killed the bunch of hookers, I visited him every day. I think you're so much more interesting than I thought. Like I love my dad. But if my dad was like a serial killer, I'd be like, what is going on? Maybe a me, I'd feel bad for the people.

2:14:14Yes. For sure. But you would be fascinated. Fascinated. You would be amazing. Or if you could have a conversation with the ice man. Oh my God. He wasn't just talking, my father wasn't just talking about his dog. What were you saying, Joe? Or are you trying to give me the Gilgobie thing? Oh, um, whether or not his wife's hair was found at the scene of the crime of one of the crimes. I think it was. But that's the thing about the suburbs. People have these weird hidden lives. And his was that he was a murderer. Yeah. And says his hair believed him. And the suburbs, everybody looks, you know, it's very, there's a lot of conformity.

2:14:44Hair believed to be from the Gilgobie suspect's wife found near victims. Wow. The authorities say once Rex, you, you're a man was identified in early 2022 as a suspect. They watched him and his family collected DNA samples from items that were thrown away. I'd love to hear why, like when these, you know, why did you do it? But I guess it's just he was bored. He's like an evil fuck. I'm an evil guy and I'm bored. And I need something to do. There's people that hate themselves. They hate life. And they want to do something awful. Yes. You know, and they can, they want to see if they can get away with it too.

2:15:17People steal things like when no one a writer was a shoplifting thing. She was rich. Why would she do that? Because they want to get away with it. To thrill. It's like a crazy thrill. It's a thrill. It's a psychopathy. It's a thrill. Yeah, it's a psychological disorder. Well, stranger things got it back on the bike, huh? She was great on that. She was really good. She was great on that. She was really a fucking mage. Keep stealing. Who's getting hurt by that CVS? It's probably like department store. But any strange when somebody, you know, has a hidden life. And it's crazy. I think this is where the N95 thing came from.

2:15:50I found a bunch of stuff googling about N95. Well, you could feel when you wore those masks. It wasn't cool because you're bringing in your own carbon dioxide. It says that you can wear it up to about eight hours usually. What was this one that was saying? I was trying to find specifically what it was. This article before I get further into it says this blog is specifically about respirators and not face masks. But it does say here when the workers are working longer hours without a break while continuously wearing an N95 FFR. I don't know exactly what the FFR means. The blood CO2 levels may increase past the one hour mark.

2:16:25Which could have significant physiological effects on the wearer. Some of the known physiological effects have increased concentration of CO2 include headache, increased pressure inside the skull, nervous system changes. IG increased pain threshold, reduction in cognition, altered judgment, decreased situational awareness, difficulty coordinating sensory or cognitive abilities, and motor activity, decreased visual acuity, widespread activism of sympathetic nervous system that can oppose the direct effects of CO2 on the heart and blood vessels, increased breathing frequency, increased work of breathing, which is a result of breathing through a filter medium, cardiovascular effects, he examined diminished cardiac contractility, vasodilation of peripheral blood vessels, reduced tolerance to lighter workloads.

2:17:17So that's not good. That's just the known effects from breathing to what you do. These concentrations of CO2 which can happen if you have a face mask on like an N95, I guess. Yeah. So you know, the people wore those fuckers all day long. How many people got really fucked up from those things. There's people that were wearing them outside of the park. It's crazy. So many people outside in L .A. wearing those things. But they got fucking brainwashed. They got brainwashed and they didn't get good information on what can be done to make your body more resilient. But you know, I mean, I think at the end of the day, it's like I think people learned, even the people that are not not disclosing that.

2:18:04There's a lot of people. A lot of people now are just kind of like reference that FFR, when I just looked it up, FFR means a filtering face piece respirator. When I Google that, it's like that, it's a giant face mask. Oh, people had those two. Oh, well that's insane. Okay, that's a different story. That's not an N95. That's a fucking Darth Vader mask. Those are kind of cooler. That makes, that's a lot different. It's a lot different. That probably does a way better job of keeping all the coodies out. But it's probably fucks you up because that's why you're getting so much CO2. Because the thing about those N95s, not just N95s, but the thing about specifically like surgical masks.

2:18:45Have you ever seen that doctor that does this test where he takes a V8 pen? And he takes a big hit and he blows it through the face mask and explains that the size of the vapor that's going through the face mask is far larger than the COVID bacteria or the COVID virus rather. So when you're breathing out, it's going right through that goddamn thing. Like some of the aspects of those N95 or it was a KN95, maybe both of them, there's sort of an electrical charge to that kind of fabric. And it captures some of the stuff. It stops some of it from getting it. So they might have a beneficial effect.

2:19:26Like you know, it was a mask, right? People were wearing bullshit. They were wearing like fucking the same face diaper every day. And you know what? It'll be forgotten by people like will remember it and people are age will remember it. And you know that they wore them in 1918 during the Spanish flu? I did not. Yeah, they were. There was a lot of them. I didn't know either. Until this pandemic, I saw all these photos of like the 1918's. People walking on the streets with face masks off. Hopefully we're done with pandemics for a while and we could just be killed by all the machines. Well Biden said it's going to be another pandemic.

2:19:59Well, they want one, but I don't know if it's spoke. Yeah, I was one of those. Eric, do we need money? There's going to be another pandemic. I want machines to kill us. I'm bored with pandemics. I'd rather the machines rise. Just to be more fun, I don't think you have a choice. Yeah, I think it'd be more fun to just see a bunch of AI sentient robots trying to kill everybody. If we're going to go, let's just do full like you know, terminator. Let's go. You know, if it's going to happen, the pandemic is boring. We've done that. It's hack. It's scary. It's scary because it may have been started by people.

2:20:33It probably was. They were fucking around in that lab. Most likely it got out. They trying to get more money. Some of the researchers get sick. They odd COVID like symptoms. It seems like they know what happened. They were trying to get more money showing the government going, look, what if this happened? What if that happened? And it's also funding though. If you could do this research. And it's probably fun. Like that's what's fucked up about it. If your job is to create diseases all day, you're probably like, let's create something fun. Well, you don't know you have it for 12 days. Then we go show the government that and go, look how scary this one is.

2:21:03You better fund us now. You better give us all the money because we have this crazy new disease. Because that's all they do. Is they just manipulate these diseases to make them more dangerous so they can get more money? That's what it is for funding. And obviously they didn't have a fucking cure. Yeah. Right? So how long you been working on this thing? How long you've been fucking doing these weird science projects on bugs? What is this mosquito thing I can't hear it about? They're trying to figure out a way to have mosquitoes vaccinate people. Well, the mosquitoes. No bullshit. Yeah, no, they're trying to have mosquitoes like their Bill Gates, I think, wants to own all the mosquitoes in the world.

2:21:43And I don't know why, but it's I think it's good. Could you fucking imagine that? I think he's good. He just wants to own all the farmland and all the mosquitoes. Imagine if they genetically engineer mosquitoes to vaccinate people. Is that what's happening? No. I mean, I'm just guessing. I've heard that, but I don't know what forum. See if that's real. Have they genetically engineered mosquitoes? Is they potentially? Is Bill Gates trying to vaccinate me with a wasp? Well, the first thought was like, we're going to genetically engineer mosquitoes that can't carry malaria. That would save so many lives.

2:22:13Oh, we'll go right ahead. C -Y -V -C -I -K -V could replicate efficiency in what? Efficiently in mosquitoes and be secreted in saliva, they said. By feeding mosquitoes blood that contained the C -Y -V -Z -I -K -V virus, the insects were transformed into a vaccine carrier. Awesome. Zang's team then tested the effectiveness of their new vaccine on mice. So every time you just hit your leg, you're like, I got a booster. I'm getting boosted now. Geez, Louise. What are these people doing? That is the wildest thing that the world hasn't stepped in and just said, Stop all this fucking gain of function.

2:22:59Could you ask a lot of money? Scientists were able to genetically modify parasites to deliver malaria vaccines through mosquito bites. Holy shit, dude. We use the mosquitoes like there are a thousand small flying syringes, explains University of Washington, Seattle physician and scientist Dr. Sean Murphy, lead author of the paper. Yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy. Well, it's also crazy that Gates wants to own all the farmland and stuff. People that make a billion dollars, they tend, a lot of them just don't want to chill with the billion dollars. You know when you're a little kid, you're like, if I had a hundred plus billion, I know, but it's not, it doesn't matter anymore.

2:23:36He wants people to do everything he says. Like when you were a little kid, you're like, if I had money, I just put a water slide from my bedroom to the pool, right? Yeah. That's like when you're a little kid, I had a fast car and I'd have a fucking jungle gym in my, whatever it is. Then as you grow older, you go, okay, I'll have a mansion and a couple of things. Then you're like, I'll get to fuck all the hot bitches or whatever it is you think money's gonna get, right? Right. But at that level, you're like, I want to own all the mosquitoes and I want them to vaccinate people in my command. It goes so crazy.

2:24:08You have so many resources that you are a Batman villain. You've become this like all powerful. He's a country. Bill Gates has the resources and not a small country. He has the resources and the political power of a country. If they release those vaccine carrying mosquitoes, there would be people out there that would be bug catchers. Or they're trying to go get stung up as much as possible so they can be free of any worry of diseases. Well, they also be people. There would also be like clinics in LA and Beverly Hills would go and just get stung. Yeah, for sure. And they would put it on your skin and you get stung.

2:24:41Did you guys get stung? Yeah, I got stung today. Stung, stung. It's so itchy but it works. Doesn't work. Of the 14 participants who were exposed to malaria, seven of them, including Reed, came down with the disease, meaning the vaccine was only 50 % effective. Oh, that's better than the COVID one. For the other seven? For the other seven? The COVID is fucking terrible. You know, 50%. They will. Oh, that is successful for these people. Yeah, it's a lot. 50 % is a home run. For the other seven, protection didn't last more than a few months. Oh, so it sounds like you got to get stung every couple of months.

2:25:16Every few months. You need a new booster. You need to get stung. Booster stung. It is mostly crime when the children had malaria. Yeah, I developed such a close relationship with the nurses Reed said. She wanted to continue through the trials, but her infection made her ineligible. She was given a drug to clear her case of malaria and send home. I think we can obviously do better. Oh, my God, these guys want to keep going. They want to get stung. But isn't the real solution to malaria? They need to, like we had malaria in America one time. It was a lot of standing water. You know what the solution is?

2:25:46Shopping malls, condos, buildings, roads. Right. It's go -by jungles. Yeah. Stop with this crap. The real solution is famous Dave's, Dave and Buster's, KFC, that's the solution. High gene. High gene. You know, running water. Sure. Sewage systems that are functional. But you know, you don't get malaria in a mall. You don't get it in a hotel. You know, you get it in a forest. You get it from mosquitoes, right? But how do mosquitoes get it? They get it. They don't all have it. They get it in a, you know, those really hot swampy areas, a lot of stagnant water. Right. But how are they getting it? Like how are the mosquitoes getting malaria?

2:26:26I don't know. You know what I'm saying? Because like, it's not all mosquitoes. They carry it to some of them just carry it. Right. So this is like, let's Google that. Like what's the origin of malaria? Yeah. They do the other carrying it. They're taking out all the stuff. They carry it. Where do they get it from? Where do they get it? Like what? Like a person or a thing? Or a hog. Maybe one of those hogs. Oh, those dirty pigs. They think spread a lot of stuff. Yeah, there's a lot of animals that have some funky ass diseases. So those vaccination are good when you're going. Like I'm sure they're good in a lot of cases.

2:26:56But they're also good if you're going to like some of those countries where it's like that. There's definitely one kind of mosquito that can spread it. Oh, malaria spread when it infected anophilus mosquito bites a person. This is the only type of mosquito that can spread malaria. The mosquito becomes infected by biting an infected person, drawing blood that contains the parasite. When that mosquito bites another person, that person becomes infected. Our friend Justin got malaria three times. Yeah, that's a guy for the fight for the forgotten with the well. He got malaria and then it came back.

2:27:26He was like depleted and it came back. Well, he's trying to give people water, right? Yeah, we'll stop doing that. That's the problem. That's the issue. No, good for him for doing it. And that's an occupational hazard. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he got rocked with a bunch of different things. Some sort of a parasite at one point in time really fucked him out for months and months. There's a lot of people go over there and they get exotic things. And they don't even exactly know what you got infected with. Well, that's the thing about. I've always wanted to visit the Amazon rainforest in Brazil, but then there's some really wacky stuff you could just get.

2:28:02And some people don't even know what it is. Some people come back from that and five years later have an issue. I don't know. Yeah, I think there was a case real recently of someone getting infected by a parasite or a bacteria that they had not identified before. Right. Like a new one. Well, that's the thing about those areas. And that's what makes them so cool is that they're on it. And you know, there's areas in the Brazilian Amazon that are, you know, in contact with tribes. Yeah. And I had Paul Rosley on. Yeah. He's the guy that goes down there and he's like working to try to preserve these areas and protect them.

2:28:38And what they do is they they want to piring loggers to now protect the forest. Right. Because they don't have any fucking jobs out there. Of course. They can hire them to do something good. That's what they want to do. Right. Much rather do that. And so they do that now. And they've protected like a shit load of the regions of the rainforest. And they've got a lot of the Amazon that are just in banishable or crazy. And he was talking about it. And he's talking about his encounters with some of the natives. That's why I was crazy. That's what he was, at one point in time, he thinks they were hunting him.

2:29:05Really? Yeah. He like peaked around. He saw someone with face paint on with a bow and arrow. And he's like, oh my god, he realized he was surrounded. And he got out of there. That's so crazy. Whoa. They just fucking kill people. Right. They find people encroaching because they've been killed. I mean, there's been like war going on between people that are like... But if you go down there, could you become their god? Could you convince them you were a god? If you had like sufficient fireworks. That's the thing. Like if you went down there and were like, yeah. I'm your god. They would shoot arrows at you still.

2:29:39They would try it out. Yeah. They wouldn't believe you. They don't know your language. You don't know theirs. So good luck learning some Amazonian tribal language. Yeah. But if you went down there with like some like phones and crazy stuff. Yeah, you might think you were a demon. Flood lights. There's Columbus, usually eclipse, supposedly. Oh yeah, supposedly. Yeah. I told them the eclipse was coming and they all bowed down. That's powerful if you know that shit's coming. That's a dope move. It's a new shit color move. And they were doing that little sextant in the sky thing. That's really fucking new.

2:30:08I mean, imagine making your way across the ocean just looking at stars to this thing. And then landing and going, hey, I know something's coming. And then predicting it and then having them go, oh, this guy must be a god. He must be plugged in. And you kind of can't do that anymore. No. Because the light from the planet, from all the cities and everything, it's like significant pollution stops you from seeing the stars. Unless you're like, way the fuck out there. Also, their immune systems have been exposed to very little. So you could they could die from like nothing. Like cold, right? Because like, that's what killed most of the native Americans.

2:30:41Yeah. 90 % of the native Americans who died, died like smallpox. Smallpox. So it wasn't us. No. I forgot. I forgot them stuck. Didn't we give them blankets or smallpox? Marine worms. Got them stuck. I don't know. In 1504, Christopher Columbus on his fourth transatlantic voyage had been stranded with his men on the north coast of Jamaica. Their last two ships riddled with marine worms. So marine worms are worms that eat wood. So they eat through boats. So having said a small part of Spanish occupied hispanola, a hundred miles to the east, paddling canoes, hewn from local timber. Yeah. They waited rescue, but their food had run out.

2:31:19And the Jamaican who had been pleased to provide provision to provision them when they first arrived had tired of the trinkets the Spaniards could offer in exchange. Luckily Columbus had astronomical tables with him, which indicated that a lunar eclipse was due on February 29th. Calling the local chiefs together, Columbus gravely told them the god of the Christians was only a few. It was all powerful and very displeased that Jamaicans refusal to keep them fed. And as soon as his, an assign of his wrath, as a sign of his wrath, the moon would be darkened and turned the color of blood that evening.

2:31:50Many of the natives laughed, although others were not sure, all were convinced when the eclipse began as Columbus had told them it would, but hold on for this. You tell me they never saw an eclipse before. You tell me they, they had no idea that that happened. That seems unlikely. It might not have hot. To know what's going to happen that night though, on leap year two. The fact that he was timing the eclipse with his sand glass, reemerging from the appropriate, at the appropriate juncture. The outcome was as Columbus had anticipated, convince of the power of this, of this god the Jamaicans felt their knees begging forgiveness.

2:32:25The stranded Europeans did not want for anything again before their rescue six months later. That's cool. It sounds a little like the UFO disclosure talk. I go at the scene when they've had what would be they probably thought was a god, you know, blocking that out for the night for some. I'm sure he probably did convince some of them that he was really smart. Yeah, I'm sure he should probably be the leader. He knows the eclipse. I've always wanted to see that area, but you know, I'm not going to do it now. I just want you know, that's always interested me, that type of the Amazon that got area.

2:33:01Oh, the Amazon's got to be amazing. It's got to be amazing, right? It's got to be amazing. Really cool wildlife down there and beautiful. It's the floor and for and it's crazy. It's like, but I just, you know, there's a lot out of that's where you get a lot of disease carrying mosquitoes. He says, it's like Jaguar walk right by him. How far away did you say that, Jaguar? How beautiful, probably. Who said that Columbus? No, Paul Rosalind. How come I said, Columbus, I followed Jaguar. Walk right by me. I don't recall this. It was real close. That's one of the most beautiful animals, you know, the sloth, the river dolphin, the bottlenose dolphin.

2:33:40It's crazy. The Anaconda. Black camons. I didn't know they got to be 16 feet long. The black cam. I mean, there's stuff that their spiders, this size of garbage can't let. It's crazy. It's a wild place, man. It's a wild place. Most of it is just completely just dense forest. We can't even barely get to it. I know. But you know, get some resorts. Get people to work. They tried to do that in the Congo. And what happened? People tried to live the fucking... They went nuts. The arrows came in. The jungle ate them. The jungle ate you. It's just too much. You can't just... The cargo ran everything. Yeah.

2:34:11I still believe in the power of the four seasons. Like if they went in there and just slashed and burned. You gotta do a burn. A big one. You gotta do a big burn. You gotta burn several acres of the rainforest. A lot of concrete down. A lot of concrete. I do think that's the... Steel water. We're gonna have to start moving in that direction. Steel water. Oh yeah. Make a giant golf course. Giant golf course. You wanna go off course? Those Madison club properties. He should do it. You should do it. Where's that? But people would pay to see that. Oh my god. Now what if it had drinks on it with a tray with drinks?

2:34:43It has a tray with drinks. And people would take it with drinks on it. There's money to be made. Velcro it around its waist. Yeah. There's some money to be made. Oh my god. Look at the size of that. Yeah, they're big. That thing is enormous. Rosely said he got on top of one of them. Yeah. But he couldn't get his arms around. Yeah. He said it was 25 feet tall. Well it probably just ate. Because when they just eat, they... I don't see it. It was the whole body was that big. Interesting. But it was a lot of times... When an ant kind of eats it expands. Yeah, but he said it was like the whole thing.

2:35:15It was going through his arms. It was just massive. He got on top of it. Like a crazy person. And wrapped his arms around. He said it slid through his arms. He said he couldn't touch his fingers. Because it was so big. It was that big. Yeah. Well that's who's behind Lizzo on the tour now. Because he's bitch's turned on him. Ah!

2:35:36There it is. Oh, Lizzo. God bless her. Yeah man. I mean that's the business she's in. People turn. They turn. It's what it's life. Well it's also she's in... You know, she's a part of that outreach business. She's a part of that when you're in the machine. Yeah. She made her money. She made her money. She should be fine. She should be fine. She should be fine. What's a little banana out of a pussy? A little banana out of a pussy, folks. So she got a little carried away. That's how she likes to party. That's what she gets down. Yeah, that's how she got down. It could be worse. Yeah. Yeah. What the fuck?

2:36:10She gave you a job. Be grateful. Be grateful. As a person, as a human being, who cares about people's joints, I would not ever advise a bunch of ladies who had not done any real, like, rigorous, physical activity. They were gonna get fucking hurt. You're gonna get, like, knee replacements. Yeah. Like rip your fucking knees apart. But it's like, be grateful. Be happy. And just enjoy it. Yeah, but maybe get those girls on, you know, some sort of a rotation with it. They don't have to go on tour every day. Yeah. I don't know how many times they were doing it. But if you were a big girl and you had to do that kind of dancing every night, I think that's a lot of fucking work I got to know.

2:36:53It was probably too much for them. You imagine Bert Kreischer offered you a tremendous deal to go on his crazy tour, but you have to do car wheels every night. That's part of the thing. Like everybody has to do it. I feel like I would. I would have to. I would have to. Yeah, it would be too much. I would say, no, thank you. Wait, but Davis also claims lawsuit. She had once had to soil herself on stage during excruciating re -addition. Fearing the repercussions of excusing yourself to go to the bathroom. Yeah, but that's also like that's on you. Okay. No one told you. That's a weird one. You just shit yourself.

2:37:29Yeah, that's a weird one. You just shit yourself. Yeah, it's all right. It's all right. Also, if you were a big girl. You shit yourself during rehearsal for the fat show. Is there any truth to the rumor that bigger people shit themselves more often? I don't shit myself, but I'm. I never. No. I don't remember. I don't have. I'm remembering when I was drunk, I, when I was really drunk. I don't think it's a common thing. But I think if I had to do Lizzo's dance routines every night, I would be shitting myself. It happens. You'll be shitting yourself. And be grateful. Be grateful you're on this tour.

2:38:07But if you have to shitting yourself. You have to take a shit. You have to tell people. I am so sorry, but I have to use the restroom. But it would be so funny to me if one of them said, hey, I could use the bathroom and Lizzo just went at them like a grizzly instead. Fuck you. Keep dancing. Hold it in. And they just dance and shit themselves. Do you ever like about to go on stage and you wondering if you should just take a shit? I always use the bathroom before I go on stage and I make it a point too because I know that that's a possibility. But I've had moments where I wasn't sure. And then it's a shit.

2:38:37And then I just dump truck. Yeah. Just like a load of. There's like before you go on stages like an anxiety sometimes you're stomach a little bit. And then that going, you know, going to the bathroom is. Yeah. Maybe that was that girl. Yeah. Let her take a shit. Maybe she could perform better. Yeah. It's a beautiful situation there when you have people that are really overweight, dancing and shitting themselves on stage. It's, that's what progress is. Yeah, but I don't think you could blame someone when you shat yourself. You really can't. Well, you can't, but you really can't. Well, if you're a lawyer, there's lawyers disagreeing with you.

2:39:15Well, I don't think I think a lot of lawyers. I don't know about that. Yeah. Because unless they specifically told you you can't leave to take a shit. Yeah. Unless they specifically told her that. No, I think she internalized it and she decided to shit herself. Which to me is like, guys, come on, you have to be able to grow up. Well, on the other hand though, if they did discourage them from using the bathroom, human beings have to use the bathroom. Right. That's ridiculous, especially their rehearsing. Like, let her take a shit in between takes. Yeah, but also like, I do respect it, Lizzo. I was like, don't fucking use the bathroom on this tour.

2:39:49If she was like a hard ass. I do respect it. Yeah, that is a part of it. I'm just going like, all these girls been like, yeah, now we're finally going to get respected. And Lizzo's like, you ain't shitting on my tour. Okay. There's something very funny about the idea of Lizzo walking around calling them all fat pigs. Hey, it's just, I'm sorry, but that makes me happy. Are we sure that's true? I don't think it's true at all. I don't know, but it makes me happy. It makes me happy. If it's true. It's hilarious and very fun. And a judge having to look at all these fat people in a courtroom and go, wait, who's what?

2:40:18Who's the problem? Is that is fat privilege or fat people allowed to call other people fat? Is that okay? It should be kind of okay, but if she's your boss, obviously it's like a problem. But it's just funny to me. Let's take morality out of it. There's nothing funnier than that. Right. Just Lizzo walking around stage calling people fat. I mean, it's just so funny. It's an absurd world. Well, there's a thing that happens to people when they get their own show. Yeah. If they've never had a show before. Yeah. Some of them go loony, right? Rosanne talks about it real openly else. She went loony. Brett Butler famously went loony.

2:40:52Yeah. You know, it happens. You get, also you're, you're kind of a dictator. And then you're like, here's the banana. Yeah, but you heard quite a few sitcom stars when you saw them. Eat the banana. Yeah. Bonkers when they had their own show. I'll tell you a story afterwards. I'm a good one. Okay. But it's just, there's these moments where you just decide that the rules don't apply. You can just fucking scream at everybody. It's the allen thing. Yeah. You're the, you're the one in control of everything. Right. You could just fire people on a whim. You know, you, you want to be feared. Well, I think it was like part of it was like Lizzo was like, these girls were, they're like her too.

2:41:28It's weird. It's weird to have a bunch of people that are very much like you. And that that might be another layer of weirdness too. Didn't you ever want to New Jersey reality show? What's that called? Jersey Shore? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. There are problem too. I wouldn't, would you want to go on the Jersey Shore tour? Who got, one of those guys got nabbed for tax evasion, right? He got out of it. He got out of it. He made a mistake. People made mistakes. It is a weird one like a lot of these guys. He got a hair gel endorsement. You didn't, a lot of these folks get wrapped up in like fraud schemes and shit.

2:42:05Why did you go from, you go from having no money to money and then you go, what the hell do I do with it? And do I have to pay all of these taxes? Didn't those folks on the New Jersey housewives, didn't that, the Italian guy got deported? Yes. That was a, yeah, getting paid. That was a tax thing too, right? Yeah. Yeah. They don't play. They don't play around. The reality people get fucked over. Yes. The reality show people end up getting fucked over. Well, they become famous and they're not rich. And then they go, oh, oh, I have to pay? Yeah. They don't get it. Well, then they try to figure out a way to keep the ball rolling.

2:42:37Well, because they also got famous kind of a scam, right? Reality TV is kind of a little bit of a scam. It's not like they worked on a craft, right? Yeah. It's kind of a scam. So they're like, oh, that, we'll just, let's apply that to everything in my life. Yeah. Let's apply that to every single thing ever. And they got through, right? They actually made it on television. Right. So it becomes this like, they made the shiny, they touched the ring. They were right there. They were there. They were close. And then they got to figure out how to get on it. Yeah. And then maybe the real thing is like start their own.

2:43:04Right. Yeah. Come up with their own concept. Reality show economy. Yeah. Yeah. There was a bunch of those guys that went from one show to the next. They did like a thing. And then every now and then to like that picture of the New York house, I've said that skinny girl Margarita made like 20, 30 million bucks. Right. So every now and then someone will like bank. They'll like hit it. And the Beverly Hills lady who owns the restaurant forever. She was rich forever. She was already rich. Already rich. It was a restaurant suck. By the way, those just watching those ladies turn on each other and they're like, why is that so interesting to people?

2:43:35Well, it's interesting because it's voyeurism, right? You're like, it's fascinating. People are like, they, you know, that the first season of that real housewives of Orange County was actually a real good primer on the mortgage crisis. Because you, you saw like these people with these multiple houses, multiple cars, like one guy worked at the title company. One woman was a realtor. One woman was dating a mortgage guy. And you saw how like Southern California, Irvine California, where a lot of this company started, a lot of those housewives lived in that area. And we're making money in that sector of the economy that was about to collapse.

2:44:09And then when it collapsed, you saw them go broke. Like some of those people went broke. And like that became interesting to people. Like watching people ride high and then go low. And try to like even out again. Yeah. You know, when people have to downsize. People had to downsize. People like when watching people get humbled for sure. They like watching people get humbled for sure. Yeah. You know, it's just, it's fascinating to watch the waves of money is interesting because what it, it does not make you happy. It can make you happier. It can alleviate the pressure on you. Yeah. But it's not, it doesn't fill your soul.

2:44:46Right? It's not a soulful thing per se. But it, it is interesting watching it affect people like watching wealthy people. There's no reality. There's very few reality shows about poor people. You know, it's that, it's usually about watching rich people. Really? Yeah. How many reality shows about poor people? Teen mom, cops, not a million people. Yeah, but they're even poor. They poor, they just swampy. Because like duck dynasty guys are rich. Those guys already were rich. They're rich. Because they had duck calls. They're just a different kind of rich. Yeah. They're a different culture. But it's a country millionaires.

2:45:26Yeah. Horders. Horders is poor. Horders is poor. Horders is poor. Horders is poor. McManchons is, you're doing okay. What is McManchons? Is that like? There's not a lot of mansions on Horders as I was saying. Oh. Right. Right. Right. I'm not sure if it's really stoned at house. No, those are crazy people. Yeah. Shane Gill is turning me on to the shit order. The lady was shitting in buckets and leaving him in our house. Wouldn't you get really sick for the kids? Oh, yeah. Well, I don't know how she's f***ing biome. My strange addiction is fun where they eat things that they shouldn't. You know, seeing this one with the shit order?

2:45:58No. It's so insane. I'll have to watch that. I would play it for you right now, but we were already played it with Shane. No, yeah, yeah. It's so insane. This lady was just like buckets of shit like milk jugs filled with shit. She sealed them, left them in the corners. People are out. She wanted to go back at the end. They got her to get out of the house. Yeah. She wanted to go back for one last. By the way, why waste? Why waste? Why? Why waste a minute on someone like that? If someone's like, I'm addicted to eating shit, it's almost like, hey man, today is not the - Do you drive heave if you just watch them?

2:46:29Yeah. It's just so funny. You're debating with her and she's like, why should I leave it to my home? And you're like, well, it is full of shit. The best part is at the end. She's like, I'm not the worst one you've ever - you guys ever covered. You're like, oh yeah. You're like, you're absolutely the worst. You have literal shit in your house. Her mother grew up storing her own shit too. Well, it's a family thing, man. It's a family thing. It's just the end of it. It's not showing all the shit. I'll just like, uh, you hear it talking. And I'm going to go ahead and eat some of the contaminated food and then the party's over.

2:47:01Because I have to get it. Because when somebody goes on intervention, they want to get high one last time. The party ends for me tomorrow. I like her. I'm just eating contaminated food a party. Why the f*** does it matter? I like her.

2:47:23I've been eating poof for 12 years. Out of thinking that you've got sequel matter in your food. It's -it's my last -it's my last blaze of glory. Look at me. This is the end of you pooping in a bucket. No, it's not. She's like, you have right. You have right. I'm going to watch that. It's so hard for me to watch that and not dry. I have to focus that. It's very difficult. It's very difficult, but you know, we live in a vibrant and diverse country. Yes, we do. We're a lot of people, like this is my governor of California, answer to that. People have a lot of different ways to live. Do you know how haunted that space of land must be?

2:48:01Like they leveled their house. It's bad. Who's going to rebuild? It's bad. Who's going to rebuild? There she goes. That's just his favorite episode of Horses with Joe Rogan. I haven't seen a giant. I'm a shadow of the shit hoarder. Yeah. It's wild. That's wild. And that's possible. So maybe there are more -a reality is about poor people than I imagine. I think they're funny too. I'm sure no, they're great. The moonshine people aren't they poor? Cops. Cops, I said of course. Cops. Do they stop making cops? It's back. It's back. Fuck it. Let's go. No, they're like it's back. It's a money maker. Yeah, the pandemic.

2:48:36There's a lot of, you know. Cops is great natural humor. You know, crackheads are naturally funny. Yeah. And also, here's it's hilarious. You have to get those people to sign releases. Yeah. Those people - They give them $5. Isn't that amazing? There's a cigarette sign. Like, hey, yeah, I know you're on math. We're really hanging out around the street. But we sign right here. I'll give you $5. There's no way that's hard. I got another show. So the live one where they don't have to sign a waiver. They get away with some loophole where it's live. It's a live documentary of the cops so that people in the background are like, they're just coming on.

2:49:06Even the people they arrest? I don't - It's all live. So I think there's a loophole with it being live. What? Yeah. Get edited. How long do they edit it? Oh, you can get - Those are easy people to sign releases. Oh, you can get a release and a minute signed over there. Well, this place is like when they did crank anchors. You could do crank anchors in Vegas because it was legal to record someone on the phone. Wow. Whereas in California, someone else would know, you have to say, hey, Tim, I'm recording you. Gotcha. But when they're doing it in Vegas, you can kind of get away with a lot of shit.

2:49:36That is interesting. Wow. I never thought about it. As long as they're doing it from Vegas. Yeah. How do you prove that? I guess there's phone lines and everything. Yeah. Yeah, you'd be able to prove that. Yeah. I guess. But it's just, let me just especially if it's a television show in Comedy Central. Right. That was a funny show. It was a great show. Comics used to call people from prank them and they would have like, like, annual stuffed animals. That's a great show. It's like, hand puppets that we're talking for. Yeah, it was a lot of fun. Yeah. Yeah, that's a, there's weird legal loopholes.

2:50:06Like where some states allow you to film people and they don't have to know about it. And other ones they don't. Yeah. And for sure, your Amazon, your Electra and all that shit or Alexa. They're telling me, you know. They're listening. Yeah, they're listening. Yeah, they've arrested people for murder and got the data in their Alexa. You better catch them. Catch them. Catch them. Catch them the normal way. Catch them the normal way. What if it's your sister? Some in Stab your sister. I was just earlier looking at something else you guys are talking about. A Roomba. Oh my God. Recorded a woman on the toilet.

2:50:34How did screenshots end up on Facebook? Oh my God. She took photo. The Roomba took photos of her pooping. Yeah, like she's on the toilet. Whoa. That's why. But how did it go to Facebook? It says it's not supposed to happen. It got sold to some data company. Ah! Zuckerberg. Bro, that fuck. Yeah. Zach, a whole data mining thing is so insane that we never thought of this thing as a commodity and it's the most important commodity. It's literally responsible for some of the biggest corporations that we know of. People want data. They want it. They want to know what you're thinking about. They want to sell you everything.

2:51:05They want to sell you everything. How many times have you been talking and you opened up your phone and chose you an ad for something that you love? Always. A lot of times it'll happen. It'll creep you the fuck out. It'll happen a lot of times. It'll creep you the fuck out. I'm sorry to buy this stuff at Senna. I mean, cause I'm... Yeah. Okay, why? Why? I said, I'm gonna get a shit, bro. I'll fight that shit. I'll fight that shit. I'll fight it. You know?

2:51:29El Poio loco used to do the keto burrito and that would always be on my phone because I would always say things about keto. And then the El Poio loco would be like, look at that. It's a part of the keto burrito. It's fake, but they called it a keto burrito. I mean, it's not. It's ketogenic. Well, it's El Poio loco. I'm taking a word for it. Yeah, they don't have to have a low carb burrito wrap, which they do make. They do make some weird... Yeah, they do. I'm taking their word for it. Just never taste right. I'm taking their word for it. I'll put it in a loco. You know what it is? It's the thing you were talking about when you're eating sugar and you know you're not supposed to eat it.

2:52:00It's bad. There's a thing about like a real like case idea with a flour. During this move, I did a small roll in this movie and everybody had to smoke fake cigarettes because of these dumb unions that are no on strike, solitary, but they were like everyone in the movie, it was like we had to smoke. I went to smoke these herb cigarettes and they all sucked. Did they hurt their throat? Except the star who was allowed to smoke the real cigarettes. What? Oh, yeah. No. Oh, I know that movie. That's right. Yeah. That... You know I'm trying for that. The herb cigarettes, they hurt your throat and they suck.

2:52:36Especially you really like them cigarettes. Well, it's like, I don't like to, you know, I like an excuse to smoke. So like, oh, it's my job. Right. You have to. If I have to do this today because of my job, but then I was really excited because I hadn't smoked it while the guy goes, oh, here's the herb cigarettes. I go, what the fuck? This sucks. I didn't put your foot down. No, I just did it. I just did it. So, you know, but you'll see, I don't know if I'm smoking in the scene, but I was just like... And then I just put it in the ass. Did it burn your throat? It sucks. It's just not the real deal.

2:53:06Right. No buzz. No one would get addicted to them. Nobody would ever get addicted to herb cigarettes. Nobody would die from an herb cigarettes. That's the gross feeling of smoke. The things you get addicted to are the good things and they're the bad things. But there's a reason you get addicted to them because they are... They give you something. They give you something. They give you something. They give you little juice. They give you little juice. You know, when people end up in like the depths of a fentanyl, you see these people walking around like San Francisco, downtown LA, whatever it is, you go, how the fuck do you end up that bad?

2:53:36Right. Right. But it's the power of that drug. The power of that drug makes you go, yeah, live on the street. What's about... Because it will offer people rooms and then they go, no, I'm good. I'll just turn tricks on the street and... Jesus Christ. And you go, what is it that drug is so good and it affects them in such a way that living without that feeling is unimaginable. Even... I mean, they just become a drug at the end. They're not even human beings. It's really sad. Yeah. But you think about it, you're like, God. And the rapid, a polloco that is not that. The keto wrap is not that. But those, the power of drugs, whether it's sugar or booze or whatever it is, people throw their marriage in their life away because of alcohol.

2:54:23Yeah. Damage relationships with their families. It's amazing how powerful that stuff is. Yeah. And gambling. We've been talking a lot about gambling. Right. Amazing how that gets people. But that one's good because you could win. You could have... You could win. You might win. You might win. But I stay far away from that because I can feel myself when if I play a few hands in Vegas where I can feel like, oh, this is... You could get into that. Oh, yeah. And they say that's the worst one, ironically, because there's no physical symptoms or withdrawal. And you don't have any physicality associated with it, so you could just blow everything.

2:55:02Have you ever had like a real gambling anarchy? Like done. Oh, how are we? David Cho was definitely one of his... Yeah, he had a real gambling vice. Not an addict in the sense that like guys who just lose everything all the time, I know guys who are pool players, who are like some of the best pool players in the world. And they will play and win a tournament and win a check for like, you know, $10 ,000 and then gamble it all on the flip of a coin. That's amazing. I've seen that happen. Yeah. And this is one guy who's famous for it. And these guys just are always in action. If they're not on the poker table, they're playing roulette.

2:55:39If they're not playing roulette, they're gambling a pool. They're not gambling a pool. They're gambling a poker. They're fucking gamblers. They just gamble. They want that juice all day long. And money is just fun coupons. That's how they live. That's how they get their excitement from... I get their excitement. There's a fucking great book about this guy from New Jersey. His name is Kid Delicious. And they wrote this book called Running the Table, I believe it is. It's a guy who... The guy is a really good author. He's a... I think he wrote for Sports Illustrated. John Worthheim, I believe it is.

2:56:12Is that correct? Is that how am I saying his name right? It looks like he got... So anyway, it's about this guy who is this like really depressed, overweight pool player who happens to be one of the best pool players in the world. And he's only happy like when he's in action. Right. And he travels around the country and he documents him and his friend, this guy Bristol Bob from Connecticut. And they travel around the country playing these like high stakes pool matches, where he's worried about getting killed. He's worried about, you know, getting out of the place, he's worried about getting robbed, wild shit.

2:56:44But this guy was only happy when he was in action. He was only happy when he was gambling. He was only happy... It's amazing. I mean, when he would win, he would buy a fucking high. And when he would lose, he would want to jump in front of a train. And he was only happy when he's gambling. So buy an area of existence, very similar to drugs. It's only being happy when you are flying high. And then when you're not, you're being crushed, right? I mean, that's a lot of... You know, there's comics that... Yep. It's easy to fall into that. That's what I'm talking about. A lot of people when they were getting their juicer in the pandemic.

2:57:14They were nuts. They were not going on stage. Going on stage for a lot of competencies, like therapy. Yeah. Because it's this brief moment of extreme happiness that you get. This like 15 minutes of everybody having so much fun. Yeah. It's a real, you know, it's a challenge, I think, to not embrace, to not be manic. Yes. To not totally be manic, and I think... You know, all these things are drugs, right? Whether it's a fame or money or anything that's associated with any type of performance, love, people tend to get addicted to these things. And they kind of, like they'll take something and they'll make it into something else.

2:57:51Like they'll take a reaction from an audience and turn that into love. Yes. When it's not love for a set, you're doing a good job, but that's not love. I think people turn that into, okay, that's the love. And that, you know, that gets scary and that's where people go off the rails. It's positive energy, positive results, positive things. Yeah, it's like people that live in Los Angeles for long enough, they tend to think their agents and managers care about them, like them, love them. I think I have to give a shit. You know what I mean? It's good to be dumped a few times. The reality of this situation is, you become a product, they see you as a product.

2:58:27They're effective at their job because they see you as a product. They can't see you as a human being or they might see a little bit of you as a human being, but their interactions with you or can they sell you? And you know, sometimes people get pushed into doing weird shit, they end up like, you know, well, bring your clients drugs and everything. Just to keep them on that, keep them on that fucking 100 % on that hamster wheel, man, and it's unfortunate. And unfortunately, they always bring you booze if you need booze. They'll bring you anything. If you need booze and that's in my fucking rider, a bottle of fucking.

2:59:07Yeah, they just, they want you to print money and they didn't, you know, that's the whole thing. So yeah, but if you request it, so the thing is, it's like they are feeding off of whatever. For sure. Are you really going to like go to Berk, Chrysler and say, hey, no more drinking, dirt shows, shut the fuck up. Like come on, he keeps rolling. Yeah, party. You guys want to make money or not? Check his blood pressure. Let's go. Right, right. Show him us go on. Get him the dickie you let's go, Berk. Yeah. And if you're a guy like Mitch Hentberg, like somebody was probably getting him smack. Somebody knew he had a real problem.

2:59:40He was getting gangrene from shooting it to the same area. You know, he got spooky and he did not want to kick it. He did not had no interest in kicking it and he was fucking brilliant. I got this brilliant and it just like is such a fucking weird, unique style. But that, so comedy is a weird thing to do. And it attracts people from all matters of life. But like, you know, there's a lot of people that, you know, people are very sensitive. They're sensitive to see different things in the world that they can make fun of. And they notice things a lot and they have great, they have great observational talents.

3:00:18And a lot of those people, like very sensitive people that are taking everything in. Sometimes like, you know, drugs and alcohol, it goes along with that. Because it's a way to dull yourself from the pain of, you know, having these realizations or, you know, not being healthy enough to deal with the world as it is. So you're just, you know, and music and art and comedy, they always have, you know, a lot of people that have issues and being somebody who was, you know, using drugs and drinking, I haven't for 12 or 13 years. Actually, the things about that they make you drug addict actually make you good comedian.

3:00:55Too. Because like, the compulsion to do drugs is similar to the compulsion to keep doing comedy. Or to keep doing something when it's not working and getting it to work eventually. And a lot of that type of like behavior that in normal persons, I feel like, what are you doing on Tuesday night? Right. You go on a tell jokes. Yeah. Nobody cares. Nobody's paying you. You go, no, no, no, but they will in six years. They go, what? It's crazy to normal people. But if you come from being a drug addict, where you're like, yeah, I used to go and do drugs. And I would drive to get drugs and, you know, I would satiate myself like that.

3:01:36It makes sense to do something over and over and over again. And that inhibits a lot of normal people who, from being comedians or whatever they want to be. Because like, when I started a podcast, no one cared. I just keep fucking doing that. Yeah. And I was doing it myself. And it was like, when you, you, you, you're talking to no one and then use a small audience, you got bigger and bigger and bigger. But like, what made me keep doing it is the same part of my brain that made me keep doing drugs. Yeah. It was the same type of compulsive thing. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, that's your superpower.

3:02:14Yeah, your ability to just bore down and keep doing something over and over and over again until you get better at it. That's a lot of comics, right? Yeah. A giant percentage of us. A lot of comics. And that's why a lot of comics get addicted to other things. For sure. A lot of comics get addicted to drugs and alcohol and a lot of comics get addicted to activities. I'm certainly guilty of that. Right. I was pissed off of the games. Get very, very, very addicted to games. And I think that there's something that happens to us where the, you know, that pathway could be taken over by a positive thing.

3:02:44Or a negative thing. Yeah, you, like, you could just be like fully addicted to creating new material. Just addicted. I fucking can't wait to get up stage with this new stuff. I'm fucking juiced up. Or it can be, I can't wait to go bet my whole life savings. Right. Which is a right. They fucking do it, man. Yeah. You know, I was watching Dana, I was told the story too many times. But I was watching Dana White. He was down $600 ,000 playing Blackjack. And I'm like, what? This is insanity. You want to winning? You want to being up like $600 ,000, which is even more insane. But like, what the fuck, man?

3:03:18When you're watching people get, and he's super rich. So for him to get his juices flowing, it's got to be crazy money. Yeah. Woo. That is crazy. Woo. That's a different level of that shit. $600 ,000 would not be good. And it's a different level when you have the financial means to do it. To do it. To do it for sure. At the time. Yeah. Unhealthy. Super crazy. Unhealthy. Well, I guess he likes that. Here's the thing. It's like some people like sports. People do what they like. That's a great, when you look at life like that, it's kind of one of those things. People say that sounds very, very simplistic.

3:03:56But then actually when you actually zoom out, it makes like, what's the thing? People do what they like. He seems to be pulling it off. Yeah. And he has for a long time. For people to say like, it's, you're going to lose everything. He hasn't. No. So you're wrong. So some people have a line. AA and all these things are not for everyone. Right? Not everyone's an alcoholic. Some people have problem drinkers, meaning if they stop drinking, they'll be okay. Right? Some people are hard drinkers. Some people can recreationally use drugs. There's all different types of people. I'm not one of those people.

3:04:28I can't recreationally use cocaine. Some people can. Right? Yeah. So it's like, I couldn't recreationally do comedy. I had to do it to do it. Yeah. Some people can. Some people are able to give them self that type of restriction. Have you ever been to a gambler's anonymous meeting? Never gamblers anonymous. But I know there's a lot of cross -pollination. I've been to AA where people are also gamblers. And multiple addictions. Multiple addictions. And so are they proclaiming their sobriety off of gambling? And stuff? Yeah. And you know, we're people that were just drinking to fucking like, you know, all the pain of having that addiction as well.

3:05:12There's a lot of guys who got into comedy from AA in Boston. They're really funny guys too. Yeah. Because they got, they go on stage and tell these stories about being shit faced and the crazy things that happened. And when they, and of course, really funny. Of course. And the quite a few of those guys wound up doing stand -up from learning how to do stand -up in AA meetings. Yeah. For sure. Because they would just tell these stories. I remember one time. It takes away your inhibition. Yeah. Yeah. So you're, you know, if you've been a drunk and someone who's like lived, you know, that life, when you get into comedy, you can kind of like go out there and just go, yeah, and then put it all on the table and go, I'm a fuck up.

3:05:51And almost all of them. Smoke cigarettes and drink, coffee. Like, all day. Yeah, that's a big world because those are drugs too. Yeah, all day. Those drugs too. They could drink coffee. Those are drugs too. Yeah. I mean, it's very hard to explain to someone who's not wired that way. Right. How it works to be wired that way. It's very difficult. If someone isn't wired that way at all, and they have no addictive tendencies, and they don't do anything really passionately, and they have lots of different hobbies. I have friends who are very happy, great people. They have lots of different hobbies.

3:06:23None of them take them over. None of them care that much about anyone or two of them. You know, they're just not wired that way. They go out to dinner, they have two glasses of wine. They don't finish the second one. Right. I go, how great? Because yeah, who cares? I like drinking with food. I like wine with food. They go, they can have one cigarette occasionally. They can have, they're just wired a different way. Maybe they have more discipline, but also maybe they're just wired a different way. Because a lot, those are the same people who like, aren't trying to make millions of dollars. They're fine.

3:06:55I'm not saying they should, but like, then I know people who, they want to make a lot of money. They are addicted to a lot of different things. They switch to go from one addiction to another. They it's a problem. They it's very hard to stay faithful to the wife or what are like. There's a lot of people that deal with a lot of things. Like, the people just wired differently. And you can wired yourself in a positive way and use those addictive tendencies in a positive way too. For sure. I've seen people that literally can't drink. They drink, they have one drink, and then all of a sudden they have gerbolize.

3:07:29And they're not there anymore. There's a few people that I've met in my life that I've seen them drunk. And they have a couple of drinks and then something just goes. And they're not there anymore. Tim's not there. Yeah. Who's this person? Right. Who's this fucking half robot just wandering around? Well, it just became for me, it was all I care about. So if I was drinking, I'd be like, I'm drinking. Drinking is the thing that I want to do. Yeah. Partying and drinking. So everything else in your life that you're supposed to care about disappears. And some of it had to be fun. Some of it, oh, it's a lot of fun.

3:08:00Listen, I don't even regret it when people say, you're regretting it. I go, not really, because there's a lot of fun. But what happens is, you then look around and all your friends are drunk. So you start to eventually, before you know it or not, every friend of yours is a drunk or has a problem with something. And that's why you all relate to each other because nobody's calling the other person out and being a mess. Right. And then all your friends that are more successful tend to move away from you. Yeah. And you don't realize this is happening. It's happening. But you eventually, like you take your head up and you're so fogged out by everything that you're not, then you like look at the landscape of your life and go, oh, all the successful people got out of here.

3:08:46And then all the people that are left are fellow addicts. And then you got to cut the cord and move on not only from your addiction, but in many cases, from your social circle. Was that the harder part? That is a very hard part. It's a hard part because you have to cut certain people, places, and things out of your life. You don't really have a choice. And some of them you like. You like the local bar, you like your friends. It's fun, it's comfortable going to the bar, being a drunk, being a funny drunk. But then going, well, maybe I could be funny in another way and make money out of it or whatever.

3:09:25That's a whole, that's a whole thing. But did you try to go to the bar sober? Did you try to hang out there? I never did. If I showed you the bar hung out, you would go, no, you don't do this sober. No, you don't do it sober because like, you know, it's not fun sober. It's fun drunk. And this is the, you know, my mother used to say, she used to never drank and she was like, oh, I used to go to bar sober as it was fun. And I'm like, right, but you're also a schizophrenic. Like, there's something weirder about the person in the bar sober having a lot of fun. That's weirder. That is weird. The person is like, I'm sober in the tricky diacolker water.

3:10:01They're more of a freak. Just don't go. You don't have to go. There's other thing, this is part of our life where it's like, no, you can, you know, you can still do it. You can still go to the bar. You can still have all your friends and so broke. You can't. You can't. They're not interesting when you're not drunk. The bar's disgusting. It smells like shit. It's not cool. If you're not, if you're drunk, there's nothing better than hanging out like I had this bar called Lisa's Lounge. The owner, a named it if her is daughter who was killed at a drunk driving accident. Fact. And her face was on the wall of the bar.

3:10:34And people would toast her and they go, Lisa and then drink. It was crazy. But it was fun and it made sense when you were drunk. Oh, this girl's diacolker accident with a drunk driver. And there's a bar named after her. And we're all here doing shots, toasting this dead person on a wall. This makes a lot of sense. This is fun. Then you sober up and go, motherfucker, what? Like, none of it makes sense anymore. Right. How many people left that bar drunk driving? Tons all? A lot. So it's like, when you were hanging out in these places, when you're real alcoholic, you're not going, it's not trendy, fun, cool, hit bars.

3:11:12It starts there, but it ends just proximity, right? So if you're around a fucking bar, you're gonna go to that bar and that was a bar up a block from my house, I could walk to it. You remember barfly? Yeah. Yeah. That's like the most rosy depiction of bar culture. Yeah. But it's the depiction that if you were drunk, you make sense. A toast to my friend. Yeah. Everyone is your friend at the bar. Everybody cares about you. The bartender used to let me your car if I needed to go get cigarettes, so it's average, you go, take my car, I don't care. Because she was drunk. You know what I mean? She didn't care.

3:11:49The brakes probably didn't work, anyway. She doesn't care. I remember one guy sitting in a stool next to one guy wants his wife brought his 14 -year -old daughter in, and she's like, look at your father. He refuses to get off this bar. He's a piece of shit. Oh my God. And they both laughed. And I was just sitting next to the guy and he was kind of awkward. And he's like, you know, he goes, she's a real bitch, man. Oh my God. Look, yeah, she seems pretty selfish.

3:12:17I'm like, you deserve a couple of, you know, you come out, you have a couple laughs with your friends. But like, this is a problem, right? Like, there was this woman march. She used to come at bars like shit or South she's called everyone's faggot. She was shit or something. She was like, shit or something. They kicked her out once. You're like, Margie, you're such. She's like, you're all faggot. You're a faggot. You're a faggot. You're a faggot. So it's like these people are, you know, people not well. No. They're not doing well there, but it's a great place to be for a minute in your life, to understand.

3:12:51Like if I was a person who could never understand how people get so fucked up, like the dears, because the next step you have to that bar is a fucking tent. Like it's not that many steps. You lose your apartment, you lose your thing. Yeah. So to understand how it is, like didn't build Hicks out of that great line. He's like, anyone can be, Halt just takes the right bar, the right friends, the right girl, whatever it was. It was a great billhicks line. It was about being homeless. He's like, I didn't even be homeless, takes this, this, this. But like to understand what it's like when you surrender your thoughtful, logical capacity and your brain to a fucking glass of alcohol and keep doing it.

3:13:32Keep doing it. I was in my early 20s just drinking these fucking bottles of vodka, right? Jan and Vodka just clear alcohol over and over again. And then doing shots, he was start buying shots, Jack Daniels and General Masjacking makers and whatever, and just drinking all the time three or four days a week and then five days a week. And then you're just really, you're, and then people think it's funny and then they start, you know, I tried to tell my dad about it. Like I was trying to be like, I think I have a problem and I was talking about the bar hung out in and instead of saying like, oh, you should go to rehab.

3:14:02My dad's like, you know, a dirt bed bar is played a role in every Dylan's life. And he's like, you know, then he started to tell me about a bar he hung out and then a bar that my uncle hung out in. And it was just like a lot of people, especially when you're Irish, it's just like, yeah, that's just part of it, son. You just go to a place four nights a week and you drink all your paycheck. That's just part of what we do. And it gets dark really quickly. And I think I sobered up at 25, but you know, from 12 or 13, when you just start smoking weed and doing all that stuff, till you get to 25, it's like, you see these people all these different stages of addiction.

3:14:36Some people in the beginning, some people in the middle, some people at the end, that woman marges the end. She's like an old drunk, an old woman who her whole system didn't work anymore. When she would just go, you're off, you're off, you're off, you're off, you're off. And she'd herself pissing herself, she's getting sloppy and 430 or daughter would have to come in and take her off the stool. This is what happens. There's no good that comes out of, there's a couple that used to hang out, this guy on the glass, his wife would spit a pill into his drink, they would just make him go to sleep so she could get him out of the bar.

3:15:12She would just put like a pill and she would drug up. He wouldn't even know. And then she would just drag him out of the bar because like he was so fucked up, this guy that owned a glass thing, a glass shop. So it's really dark and when you're in your early 20s, some of it's funny and goofy. And you're like, just fucking nuts that I'm hanging out here. But then you become, like you start making fun of it, then you become it. You become the thing you're making fun of. You start going your ironically, like, look at this fucking crazy. And then you're like, oh, I'm one of the people now sitting on this bar stool.

3:15:45It's not funny anymore. It's not ironic. I'm coming here to get drunk all the time. And it's your social circle. It becomes your social circle, all these crazy people that live in the area. And they're all fucking nuts. And they go to the board. If you want coke, it's there. If you want weed, it's there. And people, you know, it's like that's the type of bar it was. You could just, I still drive people by it. Like, I can't believe you hung out there. And I'm like, yeah, was it fucking alcoholic? I just, I was had a problem. They're like, you really hung out there. People just don't understand alcoholism.

3:16:17They're like, really, what do you, like, didn't you want to go to a club that was like, finally, no, no, no, I was a degenerate alcoholic. Like, I just wanted to be drunk. I didn't care where I was. Didn't matter. I could walk to that bar. And it was fun. It was a dark place. And the people were fun. It's still around. Oh, it's still around. It'll always be. Here's the thing, those little, yeah, Lisa's lying on. There it is. There it is. That's it. There it is. Does that look nice? I forgot you already said the name. That looks nice, huh? That looks creepy. It's creepy. If it's someone lives above it.

3:16:48Two people got shot outside. They call it the double homicide. Yeah, some guy lives above it. The owner lived above it. You know what he said to me once? Where's the inside? Let's see if you can find the inside. I, I don't know if that's the, there it is. Lisa's now jettin' a new photo. There you go. Yeah, there it is. There it is. And by the way, that's Boston, that's Long Island, right? Yeah. If you went to a place, where's that one Jamie Wheat? Yeah. Yeah. That's a different one, but it's a similar game. It's like, you know, it's one of those things where a fan of mine brought, at least, as they had at least a loud shirt made or something.

3:17:25That's fun. That's awesome. But it's like, yeah, it was, that's, you know, that's a type of bar where like you realize you're in real trouble when you're hanging out there. But it's also really fun. Because no one cares about anything. So those environments where you can go in and go, God fired. Yeah. And everybody's like, We're photos on the upper proof. I mean, that's, The world is far right there, God. Yeah, I mean, it's just what it is, man. It's like, pool halls are like that. Oh yeah, for sure. Similar in that way. And not everyone's not drunk, but there's a very similar thing where you walk in.

3:18:03I got fired today. Yeah. What do you do? Everybody was kind of like a misfit. For sure. For sure. And they got, I found comedy think I'd I'd fend away out because that, that stuff eats your life, right? So like that will eat you if you don't get out of it. That you found comedy. Tim, Tim. Well, thank you. Are you coming to club tonight? Yeah. You're doing a beautiful, you're a rogan of friends. I'll go. Eight o 'clock. Eight in 10. Seven in 10. Sorry. Seven in 10. You can do whatever you want. I'm going to do 10. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll tell you why that's a good one later. Yeah. My, the pool guy in my house that there's a leak I think we think.

3:18:37Oh no. Fucking hot. Oh no. See Tim live. Yes, please. TimDillonComedy .com. Yes, the American royalty tours on sale. And we were in Philly, we're Charlotte, North Carolina, we're everywhere. TimDillonComedy .com going. What are the best comics working in the country? Well, thank you very much. I really appreciate it. Thank you so much, brother. You're the best ranger in the game too. Thank you so much for having me. My pleasure. Appreciate it, brother. Appreciate you. Bye.