#2038 - Trae Tha Truth

21 Sep 2023 · 2 h 20 min

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Podcast Summary: The Joe Rogan Experience - Episode #2038: Trae Tha Truth

Overview In this episode of *The Joe Rogan Experience*, Joe Rogan sits down with rapper, record producer, and philanthropist Trae Tha Truth. The conversation touches on a variety of topics, including Trae's new album "Stuck In Motion," his philanthropic efforts, personal anecdotes, and insights into the world of music, as well as combat sports.

Key Topics Discussed

Trae's Musical Career

  • New Album: Trae Tha Truth discusses his upcoming album "Stuck In Motion," set to release on October 20.
  • Artistic Evolution: He expresses how his life experiences have shaped his music and how he aims to create relatable content that resonates with listeners.

Philanthropy and Community Work

  • Hometown Hero: Trae shares how he has been labeled a "hometown hero" for his extensive community work, including disaster relief efforts.
  • Community Impact: He emphasizes the importance of helping others, describing initiatives like providing aid during hurricanes and supporting local families.

Personal Insights

  • Lifestyle Choices: Trae reveals that he has never smoked or drank alcohol, attributing his choices to a desire to confront challenges head-on rather than escape them.
  • Protective Nature: He reflects on his role as a protector, often being the sober one in social situations and ensuring the safety of those around him.

Combat Sports and Personal Experiences

  • Interest in UFC: Trae shares his admiration for the UFC and discusses various fighters, including his thoughts on John Jones and the potential fight between Francis Ngannou and Tyson Fury.
  • Training Experiences: He recounts his brief experience in training at a martial arts gym, humorously describing the intensity of the workouts.

The State of the Entertainment Industry

  • Hollywood Strikes: The conversation shifts to the ongoing strikes in Hollywood, discussing the impact on actors and crew members, as well as the potential need for better representation and compensation in the industry.
  • Future of Streaming and Content Creation: Trae discusses the changing landscape of media, including the rise of streaming services and the challenges faced by actors and creators in the current environment.

Future Aspirations

  • Food Truck Business: Trae mentions his food truck business, the "Truth Truck," and his plans to expand and create a permanent location.
  • Upcoming Projects: He teases a cartoon project and a movie in the works, showcasing his dedication to creativity and entertainment.

Closing Thoughts

  • Positive Mindset: Throughout the podcast, Trae emphasizes a mindset of resilience and positivity, encouraging listeners to embrace life's challenges and make a difference in their communities.
  • Gratitude: He expresses gratitude for the support he has received and the opportunities to help others, reinforcing the idea that success is not just personal, but communal.

Key Takeaways

  • Philanthropy is Paramount: Trae Tha Truth's dedication to community service exemplifies the power of giving back.
  • Resilience and Authenticity: His commitment to remaining true to himself while navigating the challenges of fame is a testament to his character.
  • Evolving Entertainment Landscape: The discussion highlights the importance of adapting to industry changes and ensuring fair treatment for creators and performers.

This episode of *The Joe Rogan Experience* provides deep insights into Trae Tha Truth's life, passions, and the broader industry, making it a compelling listen for fans of music and combat sports alike.

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0:06Jo Rogan, what's up, Tray? Good to see you. Cool, what's up, my brother? Hey, I got a question for you. And everyone who wears grills. Alright, I got a visal line on and I'm trying to talk within visal line and every time I've tried it, I bailed out of it. How the fuck do you talk so clear with a grill on? I think we just get used to it, especially from Houston, you know, it's just our coach. Yeah, I want to meet Paul Wall and ask him. He seems like the guy understands grills more than anybody. Yeah, yeah. Because like Post Malone had one on and then you hear him sing and talk and he sounds perfect, but I can hear it in my voice.

0:45He's my being planted. I don't know if his was a grill. Like implanted. Like what they dig into your teeth and glue it in there. Yeah, I didn't hit that face. How's yours on? Did your slides in? You could slide it out? Yeah, yeah. I don't eat with them. I just keep them on throughout the day. Do you ever leave it somewhere accidentally? No, but that's something people do a lot. They used to always coming up younger. They used to put them in napkins or put them in a pocket and loud with a throw them away and everything. Yeah, yeah, I already lost one like that. Yeah, a lot of people do. Yeah, but I just lost in visal line.

1:22It's like the wimpy is version of a grill. So what's happening? How you doing? Man, bliss just in work mode and all aspects, man. Work mode. What's work mode for you? Like what what happens? It depends on which world because you know, of course, musicalized. That's my first and foremost, but then the hometown hero side and then just helping people and being a daddy is just work all around the clock. Right. Right. What is his hometown hero stuff? That's what they label me. You know, well, they label me that and he was someone that got to the point they label me that everywhere just for the help I do, whether it be hurricane disaster, whether it be just a system with people, whether it be frontline for the community, whether it be fighting for justice, whether it be just assistant and and care for the town the way that I do.

2:17You know, my son named Houston. That's how much Houston. I am. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. It was fun seeing you backstage at the post. My own concert. Yes. One of my little brothers, man, people a lot of people don't realize the history with me and a lot of artists. Like I remember when post was first coming up. That's how far back we go. Man, I always been supportive and just always had his back. So you know, it's been a way with a lot of artists. So whenever they see me be super excitement. Yeah. No, it's cool. It's cool to see that respect. It's like a thing. You got to stop in and check in with try when you come to Houston.

2:53But you know, it's not though. It's not the force for way. It's more of a plastic. Yeah. No, it's a nice way. It's a nice way. You was saying you never smoked and you never drank your whole life. Never smoke. Never drink. How did you dodge that? So crazy stories, man, coming from where I come from. Most people smoke and drink, you know, when they tend to go through stuff, just dealing with life, you know, it's what kind of put their mind at ease. And I was always one of the people I felt like I'm a deal with it. Head up whatever. I ever hit me at that moment. It can't get no worse than that. So I always just decided to not do because at the end of the day when I got done smoking the drinking.

3:34That's why I decided to do the reality. Steve on kicking in. So I rather do do the shit here. That's a good mindset. But smoking and drinking is fun. What's everybody around me doing all day, every day? Well, there's nothing that sort of illuminates the problems with alcohol like watching someone be drunk and you're sober. You know, man, I always been more of a protector my whole life. So I'm always just watching the atmosphere anyway. So it don't really bother me. I'll be watching. I'll just to make sure everybody's straight at all times. Right. So you're like the designated driver. I'll be classified.

4:11That's what you don't say. Just like the the the the wise sober person in the room keeping everybody together. Yeah, it is an interesting thing because we all know so many people that have ruined their lives because of that. Yeah, yeah. You know, just gets away from them. That's all they want to do. Smoking drink and your life just kind of gets away from you. You know, you're not built or built to be that strong and everybody not able to do with a lot of things. You know, sometimes that's the escape goat. And I want to one is not to do it. I just if it suits you and that's for you, you know, you gotta do what you gotta do.

4:53That's a good way of looking at it too because that is true that we all have different levels of ability of handling shit. Yeah. And especially when it comes, but when you know you get into tricky things like alcohol or pills, pills is a tricky one. It feels like anybody can handle those. We had a Kurt Angle on the other day from WWE and he developed a pain pill problem because he broke his neck like five times. Yeah, I didn't know that. He got fucked up. His neck is fucked up. It's crazy. And we watch some clips of him doing it. But I mean this guy won the gold medal in the Olympics with a broken neck and he still got hooked on pills.

5:35I could imagine only because once you get used to that pain and that's what's putting you at ease, you gotta, you know, you go from a couple to me just going to give a few more in so I can make sure I'm good throughout the day. Yeah, it just becomes a part of your body. You can't get away from that. But you gotta be got to be cautious man because now you got fint in all and all the others shit. You're talking about seesome with that. I really see somebody make it through that. That one for sure. You gotta be cautious. Yeah, that's the real problem with getting stuff off the street. You know, if you're trying to get coke off the street, they're not making it the Pfizer lab.

6:14You know, it's not like you're not getting the same batch every time. You don't know what the fuck you're getting if you don't know the guy who's buying it from the people. Like you don't you don't know what the source is. Yeah, you even got it's so crazy. You can even find weed lace with the shit. So it's just many a time. Yeah, everything can be fucked up. What would they lace weed with it? Never know. Never know. But there's as many people as this shit affecting our hidden and passing from it. There's definitely something that they're doing. You know, because weed is illegal in a lot of states, 90 % of the weed that's grown that's sold in these states where it's illegal is grown on public land by the cartels.

6:57Because in the places where weed is legal like California, it's only a misdemeanor if you're growing weed like without a permit. It's not a big deal. So they just set up shop in the national forests in place where not supposed to be and they grow weed. Because if they get caught, it's not, you know, it's not that big of a deal. But you know, they want to protect their product too. So these guys who used to be like game wardens, now they have like tactical teams with dogs and shit and, you know, MP4s and machine guns and they're going through the woods fighting a cartel. It's wild. You know, you see it in the movies, but you know, that's what having a real life for real for real.

7:36And he was explaining to me how it's really dangerous because they use all these like super toxic pesticides and shit that no one else is allowed to use. Like you can't really use that if you're growing, especially if you're growing something organically, which is ideal. So that usually is an all kinds of shit that's like super toxic. Yeah. And then it's, that means it's going to weigh down and affect the people for sure for sure. Yeah. And isn't it crazy that all that is just because it's illegal? Man, I'm not sure when, but I'm assuming they don't have to make it legal in the Texas at some point, man.

8:12At some point, it seems silly, especially because Texas is supposed to be all about freedom. You know, I had a conversation with Sky Alex Barons in yesterday. He's a reporter. He used to work for the New York Times and he's, you know, he pointed out. He's like, everybody wants freedom. But if you get that freedom and everything's legal, you're going to have a bunch of drug overdoses you wouldn't have. You're going to have a bunch of people that are addicted. You wouldn't have gotten addicted if it was illegal. They wouldn't have bought it. And because it's legal, you're going to have to deal with that.

8:42And it's true. But it's uncomfortable truth. The flip side of that is, have you yet to see anybody really pass away from we? Yeah. Even from cancer, right? Right. And then, you know, you're smoking it every day. They're not getting lung cancer. That's crazy. Right. So that's the only part they give it confused while they haven't made it illegal as fast. I mean, if there's things like, you know, the opiates are very legal, you can get those, but you can't get weed. That seems silly. That just seems silly. This episode is brought to you by Squarespace. Did you know that my website, JoeRogan .com is powered by Squarespace.

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10:01So how do you compete without costs spiraling upgrade to Oracle Cloud Infrastructure or OCI. OCI is the blazing fast and secure platform for your infrastructure database application development and AI workloads. Right now Oracle is offering to cut your current Cloud Bill in half. If you move to OCI for new US customers with minimum financial commitment, offer ends March 31st. See if your company qualifies at oracle .com slash Rogan. I think honestly man the reason why it's probably not just because they haven't figured out the way to monetize. Well, the problem is you can't patent it. So like if you're selling, you know, whatever it is, some thyroid medication or something, you could patent that.

10:53And then it's your medication that you invented and then you own the patent on so you get all the profits from it. But when it's a plant, that whole model gets like thrown into the bushes like you can't do shit. Everybody can grow it. You saw all you need is dirt and water and you can get the drug and then a name.

11:13Yeah, and then it's you can name as many strains as you want. It's the Wild West out there. But you couldn't if it was patented. I mean, maybe that's what they would want to do is make like a genetic strain like a monsanto type weed where they could completely control it. Yeah, definitely because that's the you know, because they know there's going to be their money maker. Yeah, it seems like it's just such a conundrum because I, you know, I admire people like you that know alcohol, no weed, no nothing. And just discipline. I admire that. It just it builds us to be a little stronger, you know, because man, I don't meant to do so much shit in life and watch the lot of people go through stuff, stuff that make them a take their life because it may be real crucial.

12:03But when you get to get into the point of why you deal with everything, head up. It's like it ain't really much. It ain't like it's a breeze or a cake walk every time, but for the most part, we'd be like, man, it'd be ideal with it. And you know, that's what keep me going. Well, I guess also if you get used to just dealing with shit, then you get strong at dealing with shit. Whereas if you're just drowning it out all the time, then that becomes a habit. But it's so crazy. It's a it became even a bigger habit for me, right? I don't know how long ago it was when I got shot, but when I got shot, they ended up, they actually crazy things.

12:41They never they didn't do search during anything, right? I got shot. It was so many people outside the hospital that they were like, man, we need to get him out of here because they never seen them like that. So they don't know if the people outside was against me or was for me, they just never seen it. So long story short, life got home, clean the round, it just got the bleed and the stop. But days later, they tried to prescribe me medicine. I think I took the medicine probably for the first five, six days. And then once I decided that I could make it through half a day without it, I'm just like, man, fuck it.

13:22I'm just it can't get no worse than this. You know what I'm saying? You know, I'm going to get better. So you know what that that's just it developed a habit or anything I do. I just go ahead and about that way. I don't know if you ever seen on on on YouTube. I took the bullet out myself. Jesus. Yeah, but it's just where did you shot? I got shot directly in my back and it shot on my shoulder blade and spent to my shoulder. So it set there for like four or five years. And it's so crazy right when you hit people to you the story. There it is. Yeah. So that's me taking it out. So it was pushing out how long after you got shot?

14:02Yeah, about five. Could have been like five years. Five years. So the bullet was still it was a work in its way out of your skin for five years. Wow. That's crazy. And went on and continued my day. Did you get it stitched up at least? No, really? Yeah, but it was supposed to. Man, I want the fact that I'm not doing surgery on me when I got shot and it healed. That was a cake walk at that point. Why didn't they want to do surgery? One, I don't know if for them not had I guess for how many people was there so fast and then them not being able to go in and know if it's somewhere that was damaging or however you want to put the words but they should they were like, man, get them up out of here.

14:53And that was the reality of it. But the only bad thing is because they didn't move it and it was there. It got tangled up in a lot of my nerves and muscle. So like if you ever pay attention to me like I can't lift my arm directly straight up or do a lot of different things because it was sitting in there for so many years. That's got to piss you off because they could just pull that out. Yeah, definitely because it was so close to the it's because from the time I got shot to the time it came out you could always feel it. So it was that close. That's the thing about doctors like you get a really good doctor or you get a doctor is like, and leave it in there.

15:37And it's crazy right, man, because I help a lot of kids and like and you watch some of these doctors they take a personal liking and loving to these kids and you know just trying to figure out ways to help them or even some of the ill doesn't mean you got some people like shit. I ain't going to work then or make it, you know what I'm saying. That's the fucked up part about it. Yeah, well I think some people get real calloused unfortunately. I see a lot of people dying and they lose their feeling for it. And other people never do. That's the best thing about great doctors is you just really appreciate them.

16:13If someone who really cares, really appreciate them. That extra, that extra, let's try one more time. Sometimes it can change everything as opposed to it is nothing else we can do. Yeah, especially when someone's got a bullet in their shoulder. Just get it out of there, man. Especially when it's right there. Like how far below the surface was it like when you first went in? No, so when I first went in it was literally it was just buzzing like. So like at the skin. Yeah, so if you do this you could always always feel it. So though like when you look at the video that was on YouTube by that point it broke the skin on its own.

16:55Because you know your hear stories like bullets going there push their way out or you hear the stories during rain or cold weather that make you feel something like that's really for real. It makes sense. I mean there's a piece of metal in you. That's what everybody says it has like broken arms when they get plates. They get plates and their arms are in their legs. A lot of fighters say that when it's cold out it just sucks. Oh they, I didn't even think of it. I ain't never had a broken bone so yeah. Yeah. When they break you know a lot of times like when you break your forearm they have to do that.

17:30Like when they put the pins and it's pretty gnarly man. You ever seen anybody get it done? A lot of people they do it from a spinning backfest. They throw a spinning backfest and they hit the forearm. They're forearms and someone's forehead and it snaps that way or they block and kicks. But when they do it man the whole arm has to be cut open. They got to put a bar in there and screws and tighten it all together. They take it back out of the state of hell. It depends. You can get it taken back out. Some guys have to get it taken back out because the screws start backing out and they start poking through the skin and makes it really painful.

18:06You know especially if you're trying to kick or block kicks or punch or anything like that. And that's crazy. And much of a diehoid UFC fan. My one thing about that is watching them kick. I don't understand how they don't break their leg every time they kick. Even though I know they do different procedures to make it hard. Yeah. The different procedures don't really prevent it. It makes it definitely tougher. Like there's some Thai guys who have crazy shens because they've been kicking bamboo trees and kicking pads and heavy bags and bags with sand and they've been doing that their whole lives.

18:42So they have like really dense, like really dense shin bones and they just swap people with those. Like their baseball bats. Yeah. I just do, I think his name is Malapai and he's fighting in lion fight. And this dude would just go shin to shin with everybody. Just kick him in the shins. Just kick him in the shins. They just couldn't tolerate it. He would hit so fucking hard and just his bones were just so dense because he'd been doing it forever. But even those guys, like they have to be careful. Like, you know, I'm sure Anderson Silva has very dense bones. I was just going to say that was one of them.

19:19That kid was crazy. Yeah. That was crazy to watch like an all -time great snap his leg like that. Like no. Ah. You know that was one of the favorites, still one of the favorites though. He's one of the greatest of all time. One of the greatest of all time. He was a master at Final People's Chins. He's just a master. Master at like finding Wednesday opening. Bam! He was so good. You know somebody that people slipped on that if you had to be original U .S .C. fan. B -12 Bill for hands was probably some of the coldest when he was young coming in. Yeah, nobody had hands like him at 19. He fought trade telegment that was his first five minutes.

19:59I remember. And he from Texas, right? Yeah. Yeah, I believe so. He was one of the lion's den guys. Fucking jack big huge dude. And they thought V -Tor because he was a black belt in Jiu -Jitsu from the Carlson Gracie family. They thought that he was just going to do Jiu -Jitsu. And this dude just comes out and puts on a boxing clinic. And you're like, whoa! He couldn't give away from him and who did he get banded like still? Scott Trosa was the next fight he had. And then yet he fought banded like so. So we ran across the ring and just blitzed him punches. I was crazy. See if you find that V -Tor bell for it versus Vanderlei.

20:33So I mean this is crazy. And you know so crazy at the time it didn't do Vanderlei. No justice because nobody knew what he had to turn out to be good. It can be. Oh yeah. Bell for flesh right through that shit. Well he just caught him and kept him caught. He just banged once and then V -Tor will just flurry. He flurried. But yeah, you're right because Vanderlei did become an all -time great after that too. Yeah but see damn people didn't know. There you go. Oh really? I mean it's just a blitz. I mean V -Tor had some crazy hands. Just crazy hands. And he was terrified of Vanderlei. Everybody was terrified of Vanderlei.

21:12I didn't know that. That's what they call him the axe murderer. That was his nickname. I didn't know that. Vanderlei would just stare at you like this and do this shit with his hands before the fights. And everybody's like, oh this fucking guy. I think V -Tor man wants to gain the all -awaited. That's when he ended up taking the first ill. Well he got way too big. But the problem with V -Tor at that time I think was that you're starting to see this emergence of these big giant wrestlers. So like Mark Coleman was the best example. And Mark Coleman was like, you know 260 solid as a rock, giant jacked, super athletic wrestler.

21:47They took everybody down. They're like, oh my god this guy is so big. I gotta get big too. They felt like that was the only way to beat Mark Coleman. So there was like a bunch of guys just started getting really big. But you know that comes with a gas tank problem. You can't get that big with that frame. He just couldn't survive. And then when he fought Randy Cotour, Randy just outworked him. And he stayed the guy. Randy was very good. Randy was very good. A lot of people don't man. So I used to them. That's how far back I go. I used to have the V -A -Tissus to win when they were doing the tournaments.

22:18The whole day where you fight more than once. Yeah. And the year so I've been, I used to watch UFC like crazy man. The tournaments were wild. If I'm more than once in a night. I don't think they could do that no more. Well they did it in glory kickboxing a few years back. They did it in LA. I think it was called last man standing. I think those guys, I want to say they fought three times in a night. Against world class kickboxers. You know, just bananas. Who else was tank was good back then? Tank Abbot. Oh, Tank Abbot. Yeah. Oh, he was an animal. Yeah. He was the first guy to figure out to wrap your hands.

23:00Tank Abbot was the first guy to figure out. If you have MMA gloves on, you actually could punch harder. Because it's harder to punch someone bare and knuckle. You break your hands easier. But if you can really wrap your hands up and put gloves on, it's probably better. And so Tank would, he was one of the first guys to put those gloves. He might have been the first guy. But he's definitely one of the first guys who was like a big power puncher who put gloves on. Yeah, when he did the do what a do thing or what is nickned down. Oh my god. Yeah. Yeah. Scott Nellmark, I believe. Yeah. Yeah. No, he was an animal.

23:32He was the worst case scenario. A guy who liked to drink, talked a lot of shit and can fight. Oh my god. Damn it. And he fought anybody. He didn't give a fuck. He just fought anybody. Whoever. He fought anybody they put in front of him. Never said no. Yeah. Tank was one of them. He was one of those guys too and he would show up. People would go crazy. They loved it. They loved it. Tank was there. You know somebody else like these. They even though he's my brother but still the beast the same way people love them out of them. Oh yeah. We were just talking about him when we had Kurt Angle on. I was saying if anybody could transition from their MMA career into pro wrestling, it's the beast.

24:09Yeah. He could do it. And if he's like Lewis, could 100 % be a superstar pro wrestler. 100%. If he decides to retire from fighting, he would be huge. He's hilarious. Yeah definitely. And he's gigantic. And he's got all the qualities that you need to be like a good pro wrestler. Yeah and the people love him. You know it's so crazy. Me and him, we saved a lot of lives together. They're hurricane Harvey. We went and took care of Beaumont, pulled Arthur. Now the fact is so crazy. I got my lifted truck out there. That's the reason I bought it. I bought it because of him. Because at first I was doing rescues and boats and doing different stuff.

24:46But then Derek came through and lifted truck. And we were going past the boats in the water. So at that point I ended up buying a truck. But we saved a lot of people together. You know that's one of my close close brothers. That's why whenever you all see me at the fights and he's fighting, everybody be looking because I'll be on my feet. Yeah. I'm like crazy. No, Derek's a man. He's hilarious. I'll never forget when he took his shorts off. I'm like, Derek, why are you shorts off? My balls is odd. But it paid off and then you got a man's gave commercial. Yeah, he should have a man's gave commercial.

25:17He should have a whole campaign. He's hilarious. Yeah, it's a less sport, huh? I mean, that's how I got to meet you, you know, from you coming to the fights. Yeah. But it's, yeah, I appreciate that you enjoy it too. Yeah, shout out John Anick too. You know, he, he, for sure, he like man, you know, I got to get to all two together, man. Did he say that? Yeah. Yeah, John Anick is the man. I love that too. The guys, the best play by play commentator in the history of sport. He's the best. He's the goat. He's so smooth, man. When he called that Leon Edwards headkick right before Leon landed in a Camaro Usman, because they were saying we were talking about it like, you know, he's down in this fight.

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25:59He's made an, you know, it's like, you know, his, his corners yelling at him, don't give up rock. Go get him. And, and John Anick goes, but that is not the cloth from which he's cut. And then boom, he lands a headshot. I mean, it's crazy. It's like a scene, like if you, if that was in a movie, you'd go like, that's too dead on. No one, no one would make a call like that. But you all see, you all see it so much as probably, man. You all see a lot of stuff coming. Well, no, because I watch all experience and some shit y 'all don't be seeing. I didn't see that coming, man. I did not see that coming.

26:33That was crazy. See if you can find that. Play that. Because it's, it's like a historical moment when Anick says it. It's like, he captured it. It's really like a scene in a movie. It doesn't, it's like, see, show it to it. Show it. That's got music behind it. Oh, okay. Oh, you have two things going on at the same time. The tank, the video going on and then I had music. Okay. So listen to this, because this is crazy that he nails it. But that is not the cloth from which he is caught. I mean, that is a digesting. Ah, some of the guy, yeah. Yeah, they got you. Everybody's got to edit everything.

27:20These motherfuckers, they can't just leave shit alone. I linked them from a article about the call too. Well, that's it. Yeah, John Anick's man. He's just so smooth. That's a hard job, man. The job of the color commentator is way easier. The job of like my job and Daniel's job, like when DC and I do it, we're just having fun. Like we don't have to do any traffic. Like he's like directing traffic and this brought to you by Modelo. He's got to do all that stuff and you know, I know. Notice the difference. That's all right. Yeah. If you notice the difference, if you pay attention, it's like he does much more work.

27:59He's way better. Like he's like coordinated. Yeah. He's got notes and he's got index cards and shit. You know, he has to say certain things at certain times, you know, about prime energy drink and you know, this movie's coming up. And this and that, like there's little little things you have to jump in, Toyotires. Like you have to jump in with all that stuff. I thought that was all you. I didn't know it was just him. DC and I are like eating snacks and having a good time watching the fights. Yeah, so he's got cards and shit.

28:33Look at him all jaddup. Yeah, he gets excited. He's the man. Yeah. Love that, dude. The three of us together so much fun. Definitely, man. I watch out a lot of the time. Man, you know, my wishes that I really want to see. I want to see Derek get a championship. I want to see Dustin Poehig get one of them too. Two of my closest, man. I just, they be right there at the edge, man. Yeah. Even the time that the thing with Derek, I don't, most people ain't going to be able to withstand the flurry once he gets you. What's he at you? Yeah, but a couple of people got looking, got through it and just threw me out.

29:17That's what I want. I want at least in the least get their chance to beat sent one time. Well, listen, Derek and knock anybody out. I mean, that crazy flying knee that he opened up, it's last fight. It was worth it. You're going to the demon? Yeah, it's crazy. He just nailed them right out the gate. And if Derek does that to anybody, they're on skates. He it's so hard. He's got the most knockouts of anyone in the history of the division. Yeah, definitely do. And the crazy thing with him, it can be at the end of the fight. Yeah, all the takers won for him. He's always got it. Yeah, he carries out power late.

29:54I thought Dustin even was going to win this last fight. They just, that kick came, you know, but Dustin, I feel like boxing wild Dustin still. He, he mastered that from his weave game to everything. He's very good. He's very, very good. But so is Gachi. Yeah, yeah, not to take no for him. And Dustin got him in the first fight. The first fight, Dustin got him. And it was a Dustin rather got him. And it was a hell of a war. Gachi got him in this one. But the way God, like, oh my God, that head kick. And the crazy thing was it's in the same arena in Salt Lake City. This episode is brought to you by Zip Recruiter.

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33:11It's basically the same knockout. It's the same knockout. The way Leon Edwards knocks out Camaro with the left leg is exactly what Justin Gage did with the right leg. Same thing. It shows the punch, kicks behind the punch, same thing. Amazing. Yeah, crazy. Ain't no that. Yeah, they, they, somebody played a video or somebody made a video of the two of them back to back. See if you can find that. It's like you could see one place out and then the other one plays out. And it's almost identical. Just mirrored. Just the different legs. Left leg versus right leg. But Justin's a monster man. Justin Gage is, he's on fire right now.

33:46He's on fire. You know, I mean, he's only lost to the best in the division. You know, like Charles Oliver and Cabeeb and a couple of other guys like Dustin. But he, right now, he's on fire. He's on fire, especially that last fight. And then the fight before that with Fazeev. That guy's a beast too. And that, that was an amazing fight. So Justin is like, he's at the top of the heap. I would love to see him fight for the title. Like whoever wins this weekend with the, or when is that? October 21st, right? Now, when is the Oliver one? October 21st. Yeah. When that, when that card takes place, like that is, that's going to be a very interesting thing to see who gets the next shot at it.

34:31Because Justin Gagey versus the winner of that would be really interesting. Look at this. So here's Leon's kick on the left and then Justin's on the right. Same exact thing. Wild, right? That's crazy. Wild. And that's two headkicks to win the title. You know, a year apart from each other in Salt Lake City. Salt Lake City's got some magic in there. Definitely. If that happened back in the ring. Yes. Yeah. It's a crazy sport, man. When did you, when you first started getting into it? Oh, man. Since way back then with the, with the graces and the Ken Sand Rocks, I used to get them from blockbuster.

35:13That's what I, I used to, I still probably got them B .A. Chest Takes, man. That's how, yeah. So it was in the beginning phase, is man. That's how I get interested to it too. I got a UFC 2 picked it up, like, you know, Hollywood video. And I was like, what is this? And I remember immediately thinking, oh my god, I have to learn Jiu Jitsu. Like, these guys are all getting killed. When you watch Hoist Gracie, strangle everybody and break everybody's arms. And people, he was, I don't know how tall he is in person, but he's probably one of the smallest people. It seemed like looking at him from a fan standpoint.

35:52He's skinny too, right? Oh, yeah. Hoist was 176 pounds. When he was tapping out, guys like Dan Severn, who was like a beast 250 pound wrestler. He was so good, man. And no one knew what to do. They had never seen Gracie Jiu Jitsu before. And Hoist just, he was the perfect advertisement for Jiu Jitsu too, because it wasn't like he was built. Like he wasn't like Jack, like Tyron Woodley or something, or someone like Super Jack, Brock Lesnar. Now he's like a thin, normal looking guy who fucked everybody up. I'm talking about literally with Chuck the shit out of people. And he was doing it to everybody, man.

36:30It was interesting. It was really interesting, because so many people just didn't know what to do with them. And he was fighting with that guillon, which I think they let him keep fighting with the guillon. I think in a lot of his future fights, he would have had more better results too, because he had some fights with no gui. And it's like, man, hoist with the gui was just a master. A master at choking you with it, a master at getting you to grab it, so he could initiate grappling exchanges. That was his, that was his, boy. That one family. And particularly hoist, but that one family. They changed martial arts forever.

37:04But do you have still fight? No, I'm fighting. No, no, no, no. I mean, they're all quite a bit older, you know? But talk about a family that at all time, great Giu -Jitsu people coming out of it. I mean, that's insane. That one family really influenced the way martial arts has expressed all over the world. People are learning Brazilian Giu -Jitsu in Russia. They're learning, you know, they're learning it in France, and they're learning it in Ireland, and it's one family. It's crazy, man. It's really crazy. If anybody learned it from it would be him. If they, people need to go do a research and go back and watch some of his fights.

37:41Looking at him, you had no idea. Yeah, yeah, hoist was something really special, because we had never seen that before. You know, it was the first time we had ever seen something where the martial art was more important in size and strength. Like if you were actually a smaller person who's proficient in this martial art, because that's what most martial arts promise you, that you would be able to beat a bigger person, but some physical issues. Like if you're a 135 pound guy and you're fighting Derek Lewis, you got a real problem. You got a real problem. You got a real problem, a size problem that I don't think you're going to be able to surround.

38:17You're going to slap your hands across the ring. It hits you once, you're in a coma. There's no way. It's just, he's too big. You're not going to be able to just take him down. It's going to be wild. He's going to throw you off him. He's going to kick you. He's going to punch you. You're fucked. He's too big. But with Jiu Jitsu, it became, if he didn't know Jiu Jitsu and Hoi's got a hold of him, he could avoid the damage, drag him to the ground, and submit him. And we had never seen that before. It was always, if you saw two guys slugging it out, you know, generally they were either the same size of it was like a boxing or kickboxing fight.

38:52Or if they weren't, the big guy always killed a small guy. Always. And the UFC was the first time we saw this one guy who was like normal sized guy, not crazy muscles, nothing. Just dominate everybody. You're like, what is he doing? Yeah, he definitely was one of the faces. He's throwing the US. Yeah, what is he doing?

39:13Yeah. Then when you first went to see one live, when was that? Crazy, I think. Derek had me come out to, it was in Houston. That was my first time. It was him. I was with him and John Jones. And we were giving that, we actually gave our bump boxes too. And from there, me and Dana got real close. And just the whole team has been that way since. You know, I ended up doing a deal with Dana not long after, you know, as far as the licensing stuff with bump box. So that's why you see UFC across a lot of stuff and a lot of stuff within what they got going on. Oh, that's awesome. So you guys got a collaboration together.

40:02Yeah, that's beautiful. That's why you see me every time at the fights, you'll see me backstage. But like when we do the weigh -ins and stuff, yeah, yeah, we make sure we take care of all the fighters and other stuff. You know what's great that you gave me? That tumbler that has a speaker at the bottom of it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We deal a partnership with Grant Kowski for the... And it's actually growing. People really still ain't even realizing it's a speaker on the cup. They just thinking it's a cool shaker cup. Yeah. It's something dope, man. It's a great idea. Well, actually, you know, you got the first...

40:33and post -probably going to be mad because I got to get here. But you got the first corn hole with the speakers. Oh, really? We own the rights to that. Any corn hole that has any type of music on it, that's us. So we had a first on the Fisher Corn hole with speakers on it. And you can pair them together. So as you play in the game, you can just buy about... All right. Yeah. That's a great beach game. But I can't believe it's on DSN. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, tailgate and beach judges. Yeah, it's fun. Oh, it's a sport now, TV. I think it's on TV. Oh, yeah. Yeah. There's people that are surprisingly really good at it.

41:12Let me say... Let me see. The recent book in Pro Corn. The book in Pro Corn. What do you win? Bunch of money, huh? Yeah, they do tournaments in Vegas, I think, at the end of the day. But let's see if I can find a lot of views. I've seen they're calling out what they need to do. And they just do it. Oh, that's great. It's like the whole three hours one second. Your bump box, man, it's been a blessing for us. Shout out to all my partners there. We took the company from just a few radios. Just getting them out there to NAS Worldwide. So here's the World Championships. American Cornhole League. Okay, this is a top shot, let's see.

41:54This guy's standing around a lot. One in the hole. But he did it without hitting the other bags, which is kind of like... That's pretty fun. Is that better? Yeah, because they're probably... Those bags are probably tied to the other team. Right. So if you knock him in, they get the points. If you don't do that, then you get the... Oh, that's crazy. This guy's doing it with a mask on. I hope I missed. So you see how... So you see how... I didn't knock the other one off. Did he? Yeah, he's standing up with the... Oh, everybody has a... This must have been during COVID. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. They probably forced him to wear that mask.

42:31You heard me, Joe. You see how I stand in there with the legs? So wherever the legs are, those are actual speakers. Nice. What a great idea. Yeah, they're making these people wear masks. How stupid is this? But we're going to look back on the masks and go, What the fuck were we doing? What the fuck were we doing? COVID, COVID, fucked up a lot of shit for everything. At this point, I realized just from helping so many people in the community in general, I realized how damaging it was. Business wise, I watched how damaging it was because... Now if you pay attention to some of the new movies that come out, it just goes straight to streaming at this point.

43:10Yes. So I don't know if that helped money for the movies, but it seemed like it definitely hurt. I don't think it does, and I don't think it's good for the actors either. I think that's part of the strike. I'm kind of speaking out of turn here, because I don't really know what the fuck I'm talking about. Is that part of it? Is that they want more money from streaming? Yeah, but it's a lot of the actors that are not top -build type people. They can pay in one fee, and then they're never going to get residuals so that they're trying to get some of those residuals and stuff's getting resold. That's definitely part of it, and there's other things involved too.

43:43Bro, you know what they're doing? That's wild. Some of these studios are trying to make people sign contracts. If you do background work, or they get to use your likeness from then on, so they could repurpose you in other background scenes as CGI. Then they're like, kind of like them licensing your name. So permanently, I guess you would say. For like nothing. That's crazy. That's the culture of people that aren't stars over there in movies, though, extras, or not. They don't think about it that way. It's really interesting, because they're going to be able to make movies with that, they're going to be able to make a movie with you, or you speak Chinese, and you run an army somewhere.

44:27They can do whatever they want. They can, with CGI and with this new AI voice stuff, they can literally do whatever they want, and they can turn any person who's already been in a bunch of films, or they have your face, they can put you in all kinds of scenes. Like we're real close to them not needing actors anymore, which is kind of weird. Yeah, and that's, even just not just the actors, just even with us with music. You know, like at first, when they say something about it, and they may say something about it, you can put Michael Jackson and somebody else on the same record. You know, of course you'd be curious to be like, shoot dope, I wonder what that sound like, but then when you start thinking about it, they don't really need us at some point, because now they're making your voice sound the same, and they can look the same, like it's just the shit weird.

45:15But one thing I know, man, the bigger companies, they don't find a way to block this shit somehow, it's some way, because that's taking all the money. It's definitely gonna change things, right? Like that Drake song that got put out, there was a fake Drake songs, the AI created Drake song, people loved it. Yeah. They can do wild shit now, man. It's like, we're not that far away from them being able to replicate full movies, off -fake people. Yeah. I'll be watching from a distance, like I'm watching a lot of the robot stuff start to really come to life now. You know, and it's just to freak you out.

46:01Yeah, so for two reasons, one, because definitely at this point, shit, anything, if anything go wrong at this point, we down their foot, because they build them down there, invincible. Yeah. But two, the other part that freaked me out is, they showed us shit in movies, years back, and everything that they show is coming to be that exact thing, about it, even with COVID, right? If you go look at some of the other movies where you have different pandemics, same shit, so then when you go to seeing shit with the robot, what year Will Smith came out with that movie? That was. All right, robot. Yeah, that was great.

46:40That could have been, was that 10 years ago? Maybe more. Yeah, but to see that shit now is like, it's like they be known as crazy. What was it? 20 years ago. 20 years ago. 20 years ago, and not looking what we, we didn't wait right now, so. Yeah, we're about 10 years away from that being real. You know, they've already developed these very light -like robots. We're doing the human, first human neural link. Oh my god. First time soon, and this is what Elon just tweeted an hour ago, that with that. When a neural link is combined with Optimus Robot limbs, the Luke Skywalker solution can be real. Can become real.

47:17Holy fuck, click on that, man. Let me see that. This is straight. Oh, this is actually, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's just showing like, what, what it would look like. I thought it really was that. Not yet. How could that be? Probably one day they'll just have a fake hand. Yeah, they're getting the first person, they're looking for someone with quadriplegia right now. To do. Whether or not they found that person for the last few days, I don't know. Whoa, we are watching something. We are, we're watching the seeds of something that's going to overcome the human race. Yeah, and that shit is not good.

47:49That shit is just when you think about it. But of course, you know, you think that should have be far gone, past our time, but then you still got to think of our kids and those generations, because it's definitely going to be dangerous. It's definitely going to be dangerous, but yeah. They're going to have our kids and their kids are going to have a totally different world that they live in. Yeah, especially with the, who do you watch movies with the flying cars? Yeah. Now they really technically getting it to go. That is the last thing you want. People have a hard enough time just slamming into each other on the street on the ground.

48:23Yeah. That's just, yeah, that there's a flying taxi warehouse opening up in Ohio next month or next year. Whoa. I don't know where they're going to stay. I don't know where they're going to stay. But are you going to fly in one of those things? I don't know what to do. Do they have one in New York already? That's not true. Did they start doing that? I don't know why they would do it in New York. There is one right there. Yeah, New York definitely has like the blade system, which is like Uber helicopter kind of thing. I don't know if they have something like this. Uber helicopter. They have that?

48:50I mean, that's in the, they used that. That's part of what the problem was in NKGM. That was around them. Remember, he uses that helicopter to fly from, oh yeah. You can do it from like the, from Manhattan to the airport and just shimble traffic. You can just get there in 20 minutes. Sure. Helicopters freak me out. I don't know about these. I went up with Bill Burr. It was a lot of fun. Bill Burr is a helicopter pilot. He took me around downtown. Yeah, he wanted my, I wanted my favorite comedian, man. I love his voice of what, but he's hilarious. Oh, he's hilarious. He's so good. Such a good guy.

49:20But he's a pilot. And so he took me in the helicopter around downtown. You can kind of go wherever you want. It is like a flying car. That's what they thought the flying car was going to be. They thought helicopters when they first invented them, they thought it was going to be a flying car. I didn't know that. Yeah, that was the, but see if you find the original helicopter. Because I think that's literally what they were selling it as. What do you mean? The original helicopter that was just right. Not literally. Invention. Defingee. Yeah. Oh, yeah, right. He wrote it down, right? He wrote it.

49:50Original. Flying car. See if it says that. Because I think that's kind of the concept. They thought, oh, we'll get helicopters. And then people just fly around in helicopters. And then I think they bailed on that. Yeah. Because I think they realized like you want knuckleheads. Bang and blades. Ten thousand feet above cities. Because if you watch people bump in traffic, man, just. Exactly. Someone's on their phone. Flying around in a helicopter. Tweezing the ticks of man. Yeah, not good. Definitely not good. Yeah, it's um. I don't know, man. I'm all for freedom. But I don't want people falling out of the sky and the people's houses either.

50:34Yeah, you know. You don't. I don't know. The helicopters, I don't really feel comfortable in helicopters. I'm more cool with a plane. The. The privacy tour bus thing. Do you do tour buses ever? Yeah, yeah. Sometimes, man. But you know, we get we so comfortable now. We just jump in a. A load of suburban and get to where we got to go. Because you know, even when I think my last tour of me and. T .I .D. We were on tour bus, but even here, you know, it's more so just. When we trying to get to the next city because ideally we still gonna go to a hotel and do what we gotta do. So yeah, I'll say don't sleep on the tour bus.

51:15You do. If you go on from a year, if you're going from a city, then you may have a six to eight hour stretch. You got somewhere to lay down as opposed to having to sit up sleeping in the suburban or something. I don't feel comfortable sleeping in those things because I feel like if this thing crashes, I don't want to be asleep in this bunk bed. I ain't never thought of it that way. No. Yeah, no. That would be bad. That's bad. Very bad. Real bad. Isn't that how Gloria Estefan broke her back? How do I know that? I think so. I think that's true. I think her tour bus crashed. What happened? Yeah. Yeah.

51:541990. That's what happened? Snow covered highway, Scranton, Pennsylvania, some I truck four hours of surgery, spinal surgery, yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. You just open my eyes to that. I literally just talked to somebody two days ago at Drake concert who has two of bus leave like me. Next time you want, he told me next time you want to go out with his tour and because I'm out and getting ready to come out. So either that or even if you want to take the tour bus when you go on to go help during the disaster, you can take the bus out. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, yeah. But you're going to make me think you're the fans of how far that drive is.

52:36Yeah, don't just don't lay down. Seems like you should be the seatbelt. Because that's the thing about tour buses too. People are driving around. It's almost like they're in a green room. It's like, bro, we're moving. Put the fucking seatbelt on. Let's not die. You don't do that in a regular car, right? They're really don't. For a good reason. Because you don't want to go through the windshield. So put your fucking seatbelt on, bro. But you know, everybody wants to have a good time. That's the weird thing about like limos and tour buses. One of the things I heard about limos is when they crash, the real scary thing is people's heads slam into each other.

53:11I could see that because they're really. Yeah. The most you really obviously seatbelt. Yeah. Well, you know, if there are people aren't wearing them. And then, you know, when they slam on the brakes, you go flying. And you go flying into each other. And you could fucking headbutt each other at 35 miles an hour. You know, it's like, not good. You think of the abrupt stop of like the violent action of some accidents. If you're not in a seatbelt and you're in a limo together, man, you could get fucked up. You have because you got to realize on a time impact. You know, usually when you see something coming, you can brace yourself some.

53:46But when it's unexpected, it's a rough. Yeah. You're not even, you're not even bracing. You just feel the driver hit the brakes. You don't know what to do. And then bam. Yeah. Not good. This is where you seatbelt kids. Yeah, definitely do that, man. I was trying to find what you're asking me to look for. And I can't find it in the stumble across this. There's something called a model A, a left, a leaf, a left. Have you seen this? It's a flying car. And they're saying it's available now. It's 300 grand. I haven't found a video of it flying. But this is at the Detroit Car Show. It's got wheels here on normal size for the wheels.

54:22But the rest of the car is made up of eight fans. And it says it can fly 110 miles. A different video. That's not true. What? Really? That's right. So it looks like a car and flies like that just with the fans. There's wheels there. And there's the whole rest of the body. And this, like the cockpit where you are turns. Yo. How do you steer that thing? I wanted to make you go to flight school for these tow cars. You definitely should. Take off that. Interesting video. But this isn't show flying.

55:01Oh, this thing. Is that show it's flying? Well, this is like their video of it. So it's not real. It's not accurate. But that's what they're saying it's going to look like. Oh, so you're going to go like sideways. Yeah, absolutely. I know those flying above the boat. I wouldn't put with it. Why? So I thought it was saying that the cockpit turns or the fans are behind you. Is that what street legal e -vital, which means vertical takeoff? Oh, look at that. There's an accident. You flies. It just skips over it. It goes back. Yo. That would definitely have a lot of people running into each other. But.

55:35They land on each other. Fuck you, bitch. This is my lane. But the way that I looked, this has like the blades, you know, you can't hit anything with it. Right. I protect it. Right. So that problem's gone. But a fender bender, the blades would slam into the fucking structure and then you'd be dead. But. Yeah. I don't think I want to be part of it in low tones. No, not for the first few generations of it. Let's sort that out first. They're out of the good to kinks out first. Do you ever fuck with electric cars? Huh? Do you ever fuck with electric cars? Uh, I mean, I got a Tesla, but nothing major.

56:10Yeah, that's true. I never, I still haven't let it all of a drive, you know. No, that's scary. I do it a little. Oh, you do? I go do -doot. And I just like kind of barely hold onto the wheel, but it makes me feel weird. I never went to sleep though in the midst of it. No. Yeah, I was watching a guy on the, on video, somebody captured him from the cell phone. It, Stu was asleep in his Tesla and bumper to bumper highway. His alcohol. Yeah. And the car moves forward, stops, move forward and stops. And he's just snoring. Oh, they take his one, one wrong malfunction in everybody. Yeah. Yeah, that, that can happen.

56:44It's not all worked out yet. Don't go to sleep, bro. But you know, man, it's so crazy you see that because I was saying I was going to find somebody tied in the t - I wanted to just get the Tesla truck just cause I don't know why. Oh, that's amazing. Yeah, I think more so for the looks. Oh, it looks amazing. I, I saw one in real life and I was blown away because the pictures look good. But when you're there in real life, it's big. Oh, it is. It's big and it's stamp steel. Like that's not like a regular door. That's a door that can stop at 45 round. Yeah, the whole thing is stamp steel and it raises and lowers.

57:22So it hits a button and it goes, it gets up like, I think it raises like 16 inches or something crazy like that. I might be wrong. But it has insane horsepower. It goes zero to 16 like three and a half seconds. It's a giant thing man, a stamp steel. It's a car of the future. They would tell me you have to be selected to be. I mean, even though they say you can put money down on it and that would you have to be, I think they're doing certain select the people that they're like, get it early. Because I was trying to get one. I think they started delivering them because there was a truck that someone filmed on the highway that had something to do.

57:59And they were delivering them somewhere. I don't know if it's delivering them to final production. I don't know if it's delivering them to the actual owners. Are people driving those things yet? I have seen and heard a lot of the stuff you're just saying. And right now it says like someone might have leaked the event. They've sent out emails. Same people might be able to come get them soon. Upcoming delivery event in Austin. Doesn't say when it is. It could be next month or next year. They should have been building the factory out here already. Yeah. The gigafactory. You know, I bought them. It was so crazy right before they did it.

58:35I bought 15 acres and throw all the Texas. Not far from here. And then they just told me, price of my land down there almost double just because of the Tesla factory. That makes sense. That's a great investment. Yeah, that factory is nuts. Have you ever seen it? That's where they showed us the cyber truck. It's huge. Like the factory looks like the death star. Like as you're pulling up to it, you're like, what did they make in here? I think it's the biggest building I've ever been in. That's crazy. They brought it right to Texas. That's a good thing. Yeah. That's the big antics. Yeah. Isn't it one of the biggest car production buildings ever or something like that?

59:14It's something crazy like that. Tesla, if you hear us right now, we want to solve a truck. We definitely won't. Yeah. We need to get that. I think it looks amazing. Second largest building by volume in the world. 10 million square feet of floor space. That means a lot of people got jobs. Yeah. A lot of people got jobs. A lot of cars get made. They're getting made right here. See if you could Google cyber truck. Let me see what it looks like. It's driving around. Do they have a video of anybody driving it? YouTube shorts has quite. There's a few videos. There's like an inside video. If someone has here, there's one driving around LA here.

59:53When you see it in real life, man, it's sick. It really does look like something from the future. Yeah. I mean, that looks like a future car. Look at that thing. Like if you were like looking at a movie from 2023 in like 1984, you would think this. Yeah, they're going to have like future -looking spacecraft trucks. It's one of the... When you see it in real life, it's undeniable. You see it in real life. Like I thought it was cool looking in pictures, but you see it in real life. Like this is one of the coolest things I've ever seen. It's amazing. And there's no reason for it. There's no reason to make a bulletproof electric vehicle with stamp steel.

1:00:34Like why are you doing that? But that's the cool thing about E -line. He does whatever the fuck you want. I was just going to say it the same like he being able to live his childhood. At this point, he don't have any fear. He does whatever he wants. Yeah. He does whatever he wants. It's amazing. It's got enough money and, you know, ability to get things done. You know? I mean, that dude made his rocket extra pointy to be more like space balls, right? Wasn't it space balls? Well, he loves space balls. He loves that movie. So he made the rocket extra pointy to be like the rocket from space balls.

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1:03:37I can get on it if I want to. I still don't even know nothing about Facebook. I have people doing that for me too, so I literally can whatever I post from Instagram, I just take it there. I don't know, I built my Instagram following to that's just who I'm used to. What do you use more? I use Instagram most. Yeah. But I love X for information. I still feel weird saying X, Twitter, whatever. I like that for information. It's always interesting. Always interesting stuff coming up. I use threads sometimes too. I just got to keep it with the times. Yeah, that's the weird thing, right? It's like there's always going to be something new thing they have to keep up with.

1:04:23And you won't know about it until it's too late. Like, what's that? What are you guys doing over there? The reason to work out for us, so I got my own... And it's so crazy, I don't really get to put albums. I love my music, but every time I get ready to put an album out of disaster hit or something happened. And then my energy and everything shift to that. So the music always get lost in the shuffle. And it's the first time in a minute that nothing's really just distracting me. And my album come out in October. October 20th, as a matter of fact, it's called stuck emotion. But being able to have the X, the tick tock, all these are all different platforms that you really can use.

1:05:09Took promote because everybody don't use. You got some people that don't miss with Instagram and only use tick tock. Some people now that I don't know how heavy people are in the threes, but some people only use X. So we found ways we just use it for our benefit. You know what I'm saying? Just use everything. Yeah, everything we can at the moment. Just keep throwing it out there. That's great. It's great you've had that time to concentrate on your album too. Don't be very exciting. Yeah, it is, man, because you know... So this is the kids to the smoke part, right? So you know, everybody also have their thing, whatever some people may like to go work out to get out there for a stretch or whatever.

1:05:52Mine is I can vent through my music. You know, I didn't vent through so much. I'm asked to just release it through my music. And the way I paint the picture, you know, you have people actually feeling exactly how I feel at that moment. Because I'm not good at sitting up here like, and joy at a terrible day to day. It's going on. I don't feel comfortable, but if I do it through the music, it's just more relatable. I'm excited about it. Now, the funny thing, I'm going to show you, I'll show you probably when we get off. I just did, I released a song called First Class, one of the first singles. Because I'm releasing singles every two weeks leading up to it.

1:06:31And in First Class, I had my bro Philly Flyboy shot it. And I had some people on White Rino, BFX, different San Antonio. They edited my old school Cadillac drop to I'm flying around on the cloud. So it's just crazy. We just talked about this. Super dope, man. Oh, that is cool. Yeah. Yeah. When you released this, is that the beginning of a tour? Right now, hopefully. I mean, you know, man, believe it or not, even if we've been in the game for as long as we do, we still be nervous and don't really know what comes about. You never know what record like when we, when I released that, I mean, never know what record people are going to take to.

1:07:17We don't know if we're going to take off. Or if you got to build it up, but realistically, the goal is when it comes out to get ready to get on the road. You know, I love that's one thing I love that my two main things or three is my kids, the music, and just helping people. So, you know, like those are three things that excite me. But other than that, I like, I just, I venture out and just try everything. I feel like you get zero results if you don't try it. You know, well, that's a beautiful philosophy. The way you balance it all out, that's a good thing. Because, you know, a lot of us can get caught up and maybe one thing too much, you know, just to have this idea of like your family, your job, everything.

1:08:01It's all, everything deserves equal attention. Yeah, and you know, man, it's with life, like I just be so realistic with everything, man, because you know, we all have our good days, we all have our bad days. We all miss uptime the time, you know, and for me is just how we bounce back. And even with some of the hiccups I didn't have within the last year, till you know, it's all learning experiences. But I feel like even with this album, the reason I named this stuck emotion was rather than maybe dwelling on shit that I could have done different shit, I could have done better. Or to be just held back or sad or just trying to, you know, a lot of times we complain about a bunch of shit.

1:08:45I feel like I'm at a point in my life now, it's like, man, you just got to set up stuff for what it is. So the reason I named this stuck emotion is regardless of what I'm going through, I'm still moving, I'm keeping moving, whichever direction I'm aimed at, that's what I'm going. So I'm stuck emotion, that was the purpose of it, man. That's a good name for it. So when you say you never know how it's going to be received, but is this your favorite? I think it's definitely going to be important in my catalog because, you know, I'm from the street, so most of my music is always going to be that this album is more just good vibe.

1:09:24I think it's more growth and more universal. You could just, for those who smoke, you can put it on and just light your burn up or you just get in your car and ride. So for me, it's important because I just feel like it's an album of growth, you know, I'm just showing I'm unbothered, I'm living life, I'm enjoying life. And you know, a lot of people don't really understand me and they don't take, it's not just about money that enjoy life. You know, it's what different things you had that bring peace to you. So I just think I'm at a point in life where I'm just enjoying life, you know, and that's why that's why I think it's going to be so so important for me.

1:10:01And what I'm doing to it, what I'm doing with it also, that's going to make it different is I don't know if you see, they say you can put out, like I'm shooting a video for every song but in between the songs I want to do little short movies get. So it'll be like from a start to a finish like a whole project where I'm making put it on Amazon or something like that. Oh nice. Yes, so I'm just trying to think of this different creative shit with this. I like that. I like that idea. Yeah. Yeah, just tied in together make a movie out of it. Yeah, it's great. I got a movie coming to, but this is just going to be focused on the music, you know, from them because you have different people, man, for me, you have different fans from different things.

1:10:45And music wise, I want to make sure I make sure I sit that one apart. But it's definitely exciting. One of my bros, he wanted to main DJs out of Houston, you know that that kind of can shift the culture. DJ Mr. Rogers. I had him executive producer, you know, just from a musical standpoint to find records that he think people would take to. You know, with at the end of the day, we chose all the records I did. So it worked out. But that putting all the visuals together to make it dope. And what I'm going to do to this, going to be creative. So when I'm talking about the movie part, I'm going to actually get actors for different roles, you know.

1:11:32So it just be something bigger than me just going to stand on the corner, have one of my own was talking to me. That's a great idea. Are you going to write it out? Like you're going to write it out after the music, like the music's done, right? Right. So you now thinking about like how are you going to put together a movie that ties in with all the songs? So right now, I guess the way that I'm really envisioning it is I just, each part, I just create different scenarios. So at that point, you don't really make it as I have to really write it out. You know what I'm saying? Just in between these skit, what's the mirror that may be?

1:12:10It may be me and the mirror having a conversation with myself. But the reflection of the mirror may be a whole another actor that's, you know, good, good guy. So you just create different scenarios and then I just figure out how to tie it in. But for the most part, it's just simple. I don't think it'll take too, too much. I'm just excited to be doing it. Like I leave, it's so, it's so crazy when I was just telling you also that I have so many different people that support me in different ways. So when I leave here the day, I fly to LA for the B -Mac Awards and they give me the change, Asian Awards.

1:12:50Speaking of awards, I'm not sure if you know, I got probably every award you could think of from anything you think of from helping, fighting or whatever the situation may be. And that's a blessing. Like I'm at a point now. I'd be like, man, I don't really, you ain't got to give me a award. I'm going to do the work regardless. But it's nice to be recognized. Yeah. And it's, you don't want to kind of go against God's blessings. Because if he feel like, hey, I want you to be recognized for it. Who am I to say? Like, I don't need this shit. Like I can't do that. Right. No, that's beautiful. You said you were doing another movie?

1:13:25So the movie's done. It's called Soul. And it's a crazy story. My God, feeling for La Boa and Richie Rich out of Houston. They were just getting people to sit in scripts. And they found one that they like. It's Soul. It's about a shoe store. But my father went to jail. He was a hustler. I ended up coming across some money and I got a shoe store. But when my father went to jail, he had $2 million that was on the counter for a show we say. And so the whole movie everybody, it's a comedy. But everybody trying to get at me and get to me and harm me to try and figure out what the money is. But it's just, it's more on some funny stuff.

1:14:13And like I said, I'm out of point now. I'm just trying different stuff. Like, so that's going to be dope. And they actually come out any day on Tobey. I don't really understand the process of it because I thought they'd give me a time and a date where I can promote it. But they just like, you never know when in the pop up, when the pop up, you just get to promote it. But doing that, the reason what I was getting to it, I think I tell you, I'm out of point of having fun. So what I also did with one of the videos on Stuck in Motion, Song called Reconcilla, I went and got the original Ninja Turtles.

1:14:46I got a home, Batman, Deadpool, Lightning McQueen. So in that video, I'm actually a superhero in that video. So I'm just trying different stuff, just have a fun and just live a life at this point, man. That's beautiful. Just being creative. Have any good time. Definitely, man. But you have the music. That's my go to. Either that or just getting out the house, I don't know why I'll be overexcited when I help people, man. Just to see the fact that I'm knowing they're not by themselves and the fact that I'm knowing somebody actually kill, that kind of give me my excitement too. That's beautiful. That's excitement.

1:15:28We all should be seeking, right? You know, helping people. It's nice. It feels good. Definitely does, man. And you dedicate a lot of time to it. And you should be rewarded for that. It's beautiful. But you know, you never really do it for the rewards. Of course. Of course. But your rewards are spiritual, emotional, what you get from people. And different blessings come. When I tell you, I didn't just my career alone, I didn't been through a lot of shit, I didn't have decades of bumping my head and then you may have the whole world turning against you. Then you have to just keep pushing this. I deal with so much different stuff, but that's one thing I don't stop doing.

1:16:14Every time I listen, get bigger and bigger. Which I honestly think God put me through some of these processes because I feel like for me to go to the next level, he have to see if I'm really ready. So even now, like one of my biggest things that's hard for me now is to imagine just not reacting to people. Because I want to be able to definitely get under my skin. Imagine you at a UFC and somebody just walk by somebody, I'm like, fuck you Joe. You see that? Like think about it now. You can do one or two things. You can ignore it or you can be like, man, I don't know. You got me fucked up. So dealing with phases of getting through, that's all part of growth for what he got playing for me and the future man.

1:17:02That's definitely a process of dealing. Yeah, that's part of the thing that comes with fame, right? It's going to be a bunch of people to get mad at you. For whatever reason, whether it's valid or not. Yeah, and I think man, the hard part is dealing with it because you have to deal with it, but the reality of it is man sometimes you got to get to a point. They don't think what they want to think regardless. Yes. And you got to just keep it moving. Even if you know they direct opinion or they direct thought may not necessarily be true. Or it could be partially true. It may not even be, it could be 5 % true, but at the end of this, like you can't even really waste your time just over -explaining because it's still going to be somebody out there that don't want to hear.

1:17:52You're going to be interacting with too many people. That's the problem. You can't be considering all the opinions of all these different people. That's certain point time you got to let that go. And if people are critical or they're shitty or mean to you, what you got to do? Let me know. Yeah, no doubt. Let's see, that's the growth part because it is not going to learn that right? That shit is not easy. Not easy. It's not easy to not read the comments. But for your mental health, you really should. And also, there's a lot of accounts online that aren't real people. There's a lot. There's a lot, man.

1:18:31That's one of the things that I do do on X. I'll go in and a controversial subject, like, you know, whatever it is. Climate change or whatever the fuck it is. And I'll just go reading into the comments and see, you know, how people, and you'll find these outrageous comments. And you're like, what is this? And you click on, it's just a bunch of letters and a few numbers for the name. And then you click on it and you're like, oh, this is a fake account. This is a account that just retweets things and says outrage is shit. And just provokes people fighting with each other. And you're like, how many of those are out there, man?

1:19:03A lot. Definitely. You have to, it'd be to the point now, but I take the time to block all the people that be like, I've gained this fortune from here. Oh, yeah. Some of that should be like, man, it's too much. Like, it'd be down there. 30 of them come into about how to get some money. And they'd be like, no. My favorite are the ones that are pretending to be girls looking for a boyfriend. I get them a lot too, man. Because it's like, who's followed for that? Yeah. I need a boyfriend and you click on it. Like, what? You need a boyfriend? I need a girlfriend. You got to, then, as two followers on them, maybe not even that.

1:19:45Exactly. Exactly. I don't know who the fuck take time to create this year. I don't know what the scam is. What's the scam, Jamie, on those? Like, if you got a, like, I'm looking for a boyfriend or I'm looking for something hot and hard. Those I don't know. Well, I don't fuck that even fan or pages. Well, I think when you get a page that has a lot of people on it, they just glom onto it. And every time you post, they post immediately. They probably have some sort of a computer program. Right? Does that make sense? Yeah. It has to be like that, right? Because they post some, I get like the first second.

1:20:20There'll be 30 of them. They ramped up the minute that they made it available to use the computer to, like, comment and look at that. It's hilarious. But they were around before, dude. I used to get them. No, I said they ramped up, though. Oh, they ramped up. Yeah. It's a crazy thing, man. They just, I don't know what they're doing. How are they making money? I'm reading through an article right now to see if they got anywhere. Someone investigated this. So when you click on those things, I'm never clicked on one. What does it take you to? Like, if you click on theirs. Is it like a only fans page?

1:20:54Or what is it? I'm reading, so like this is at first these bots, we try to lure people that says, you know, like, we're going to ignore the fact that I've got a huge booty or don't look at my story if you want to. M -A -S -T -U -R -B -A -T -E. Oh, I'm not supposed to be a cousin of here. No, no, that's how they wrote it. That's how they wrote it. Oh, we're hilarious. It's like, I'm wearing the entire time. That's hilarious. When he raided, I was spelling it. Like a teacher. How would they make it money? It says it's whether it be porn or pyramid schemes, these counts are not trying to sell or are trying to sell this.

1:21:31I don't know. It could just be like the way that, well, you know, porn ads are just get you caught and a weird click farm. You're just caught in a clickhole of all these ads popping up. Oh. It could just be baiting you for falling into those. Just for clicks. Yeah. Oh, man. I don't think that they're actually trying to get you to buy something, you know. Internet scams. Speaking of that, have you ever, I've yet to figure out how when you randomly thinking about some on Instagram or say something, all the food ads just start popping up with that shit. Yeah, people want to deny that. That's real.

1:22:03I definitely know it's real. That seems very real. But it's either one day, the listening to what we're doing, but sometimes what if you're just thinking that you just start seeing it's just so it's still weird. I've never said, I've never had that happen. Yeah. I've never been thinking about it and then it just pops up. I literally can be you've had it. You had you had you had you had you had you had you had you had probably you should test it this week somehow. Don't use your phone to look think of start think of a random product. Maybe talk to someone about it. I know you can't just think about something random is going to show.

1:22:41I don't mean it that drastically, but never don't Google search anything. Try to think of something super random. I mean, you'll start getting ads for it. Is this evidence of the matrix? Like, what is this? I don't know. You start thinking about it and then you get it on your phone. That shit is. And then you know, so I have to actually. I have to think back to think that I even say something to somebody. I did I click on some right, but honestly, it just would have been a thought in my brain. And then it should just it don't be one ad. It'd be multiple ads popping up. It's sometimes it make me fall in the by a shit.

1:23:15I agree with that. I just think that the thoughts it knows what you've been listening to and watching and that you're eventually going to think of this. I kind of think that's what it is. It's just like deduction. We're going to eliminate dangers. Fuck, that's crazy. It plays us. I buy more shade on Amazon that I probably wouldn't buy just because you can just click. Yeah, click. Click. I haven't bought toothpaste in a store and forever. Just click. One click. It's on its way. I have to think. Yeah. And then it definitely something different. Yeah. Just waiting to just 3D print things in your house.

1:23:51That's going to happen too. What's it mean? People are going to have like supplies of materials. They'll have like silicone and metals and all these different things. And they're going to be able to 3D print things. Because right now they can 3D print a lot of shit. They can make all sorts of pla... They can make guns. They can 3D print a lot of stuff. They can 3D print houses. They 3D print sections of houses and then they stack them all together and build a house with it. And if you had a 3D printer in your home and you had all these materials, like for at least some things, I would imagine you'd be able to 3D print objects in your house now.

1:24:34Instead of buying them, you would just buy the plans or buy a license to print it. But with that, that prints it may cost all of them in the late. Initially it probably will. Yeah. I probably always will. It's pretty complicated. But the idea of going somewhere and getting a thing, it's probably going to be less and less. It's probably making the thing in your house. When these things get more sophisticated, that's just a guess though. Is that possible? Does that make sense? Yeah, but I still have wondered what extent. Because most of the stuff I see people 3D printing, it's mostly junk. Right.

1:25:10It's just like trinkets and plastic and things that you don't need. Could you make a knife? Could you make an awesome knife that a blacksmith couldn't make that way? I don't think you could. You can make car parts though. I know they 3D print car parts. Like metal. Like renew. I don't know what they can 3D print. Can they 3D print metal? Yeah, I mean I'm looking like there's a copper at least. I don't know how, like, once you 3D print something, there's still a process you have to do to make it look good. And pretty usable. If you don't dunk it in some sort of water solution, I don't know what you do with the metal.

1:25:48Hmm. You know, that's what Bob Lazar thinks that spaceship that he worked on was made with. He thinks it was somehow 3D printed because it has no seams. You paint that since you have O -Shit. No, good for you. No, but I know you do so. I'm gonna ask because it's like the shit just, it's so much shit that's just coming out now. I don't understand what's the motive behind it just randomly coming out now. Yeah, I'm super suspicious. So what's the place area, area 51? Yeah. Like I'm assuming that shit has been real? Yeah, that's real. Yeah. But area 51 was used for all sorts of training purposes. They had all sorts of programs that were running out there.

1:26:37I think that's where they developed the B -52s. Were they developed it? Nare 51? They developed a bunch of different military technologies out there. So that was true about the... We don't know. We don't know. I was just guessing about whether or not they're working on UFOs. But they were definitely working on other stuff too. It's a legitimate military base. So you think these videos are real? That's coming out? Or you think it's... I think the videos are real. What they're filming, I don't know what that is. It could be that it's some super sophisticated US controlled drone that was built in some sort of a program that's top secret.

1:27:17And it has some new super sophisticated propulsion system that they don't want us to know about. And so they pretend it's coming from another world. And they say, oh, these are off -world crafts, exhibiting behavior that's impossible to replicate in America. I wonder. I wonder. Because if they're talking about it like that, they're literally saying off -world, like, sure. Boy, I get suspicious. I get suspicious. Because they're not super honest about anything. No, baby. Why would they be honest about spaceships? Then it just randomly happens. Now. Yeah. It's, well, it's another nice distraction.

1:27:53It gets people excited. You know the fucking fake little Mexican UFO, baby. They're doubling down. No, they're not. They took it, this is from the MRI yesterday. They said it's one skeleton. What did they find out? They're trying to, like, other like American scientists are saying, well, a lot of people test samples other than something. Well, did they have images from the MRI? I mean, I don't know that they showed those actual images, but the doctor that took it, yay, they were here. They belonged to single skeletons, and that it's not been joined to other pieces. Interesting. Photos from the team carrying out the tests, shows one of the bodies bearing in elongated head, a small upturn nose, and two slanted eyes.

1:28:30The subjects looked tiny when held up by the doctor, is examining the watching, for the watching journalists. And then this also is, like, this person says that, that I think it's the doctor, has claimed that he talks to the version of Guadalupe, and the extraterrestrials will not talk to her, like they talked to him, because she doesn't believe in them. Maybe he does drugs. Maybe he's telling the truth. Maybe he did talk to the version of Guadalupe. So that's what it's supposed to be? I want to see what those images look like. They don't have them. You ever noticed that none of the images be clear?

1:29:05Yeah. Oh, shit. Like, they really want to see. Yeah, it's a real problem. I talked to this one guy, Christopher Mellon. He used to be an intelligence agent, and he said that they do have clear footage. It just hasn't been leaked, but that he's aware of it. And some of his pretty mind blowing, he said, Show me. Until I see it, I don't know, man. I feel like a dummy. Because I want to believe in it so bad. That's the problem. Because it's so fun. You know, the idea of spaceships coming here for another galaxy. I don't know how fun, especially if they ain't really. Well, if they weren't friendly, we'd already be fucked.

1:29:44Right? I mean, if they've been coming here forever, supposedly, and they haven't heard us yet, we're probably OK. You know, I think they're probably observing us. They're probably, if they are coming from another world, they're probably making sure we don't blow ourselves up. They're probably realizing that we're at this convergence of the evolution of the biology, and then science and technology and its abilities that far surpasses, like the speed that the biology evolves. Like the biology evolves very slowly, relatively, compared to these computers, the things that they're able to do, the spaceships and the flying cars, and it's like, we have so much ability now, and we're still the same kind of creature.

1:30:31We're still humans. You know, but now we have this insane ability to blow up a whole country. Like we have nuclear bombs. We're all pointing them at each other, and there's enough to wipe out the whole world. Like if I was an alien, I'd be like, let's keep an eye on these crazy fucks. You know, people are wild. Let's keep an eye on them. Yeah, man. Yeah. Definitely, I'm going to keep my distance from that. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to fly out of my mouth. I don't want to do nothing. I just, man, live my life. Yeah. It's going to be a long time before people get comfortable moving to Mars. Yeah.

1:31:11I don't know how long that's going to be, but that's a fucking commitment. Didn't they have somebody recently go? Are they letting people go now? No. They haven't let people go yet. They've sent drones. So they have the Mars rover that goes around on Mars, but that's just a robot. But the idea is to have people on Mars. I think, didn't Elon say by like 2035 or something like that? He wants a man trip to Mars. That's crazy. Keep staying in his name. He's the only, the same. He's the one with the fuck he wanted to do with his phone. He's a wild fella. That's a crazy thing to do. Definitely is. My wake up from soup.

1:31:51You don't need to wake up. Elon Musk speaks XCOO said, man, mission will reach Mars by 2030. NASA says otherwise. Well, it's probably somewhere in the middle. Most of these things take longer than you think they're going to take. Even its cars. They thought that cyber truck was already going to be out. And then there was that roadster. Where's that fucking thing? Those things take a long ass time to develop. You got to get out of the kinks out. You got to make sure. Because he's going to be responsible for people going over there. They can't actually be there or live there. He's going to be responsible for lots of people.

1:32:31You've got to look at a whole city in Mars and the air breaks. Like that he said, you can only go twice a year. This one, like the trip can only happen on like two days out of the year or two months. You have to wait six months if you missed the window. So what if the window like storm rolls through? Six months. Oh my god. I guess. Oh my god. See? Bro. Yeah. Once a minute going to be wasted. Not just my, it's just scary. The idea being a six month journey to another planet. That's how long it takes to get there. Oh, that's how long it takes to get out. I thought you said he only go up. Yeah, there's a window of six months.

1:33:11But that's how long it takes. Doesn't it take six months to get there? Oh, fuck my office show. It never. It took the Apollo mission to, I think, two weeks to get the moon. It could even be seven months. So it might be seven months. Yeah, seven months in a spaceship. Traveling at 24 ,600 miles an hour. Yeah. What does that feel like? You probably don't even notice it. You probably look out the window. You don't see shit. Like, are we there yet? I'm just saying the food here, it'll be horrible. Horrible. Fuck no. I can't even see this. Yeah, there's going to be no barbecue. If you're flying how many thousands of miles an hour?

1:33:50Almost 25 ,000. Yeah, I can't. What does that feel like? Very uncomfortable. And knowing you can't turn around. You can't, like, take a month in and go, you know what, guys? I'm going to pull over at this rest stop and I can't do this anymore. Yeah, but not only that, everybody revolves around phones and the internet. No wedding will be there. See them, though. Yeah, you will have no idea what's going on on earth. They must have some communication, right? I'd imagine the Starlink is going to go with it, but what if it doesn't work? I have, they test, you know, have they been able to go test it?

1:34:31Test the speeds. Imagine being the port back first due to try to touch down on Mars. Oh my god. That's a, but there's going to be people to do it. Just like this people that go to Everest. People that want to climb K2. There's going to be people that do it, no matter what it is. That's as well be one of them, bro. I definitely won't be one of the first. I'm definitely not going to do that six month thing. Fuck that. You only live a hundred years. You're going to take a half of a year to go to the other planet that sucks. Is it people want to the moon already? Well, the Apollo astronaut. This thing says they're going back.

1:35:12The article I pulled up about NASA said they have a plan to go back to the moon 2025. Oh, the South Pole of the moon. Oh, wow. That would be interesting. One of it looks better than the original footage. These days they better have good cameras. They got everything else. Yeah. That's going to be interesting. They pulled that off. Well, that will, that will crush the moon hoaxed in the iris. But I don't know. You say the hoax, which is real? Yeah, the people that think that we never went to the moon. Wow. That's a fun one. That's a fun one. What we did though. Yeah, but these people that believe it was a hoaxed.

1:35:48And if you go down that rabbit hole online, whoo. YouTube. I can't hate YouTube holes, man. I'd be in that shit for hours. Yeah. People got the original shit I was looking up. Yeah. YouTube holes. Definitely. Especially with something like that. They'll take you down. Down the dark, dark road. And you start thinking, I don't think we went to the moon. They definitely will. We got a little brainwashing. Well, there's so many conspiracy theories you can get into. You know, if you just don't care and just want to go on a rabbit hole, there's so many rabbit holes to go down. The rockabellers, the, you know, there's like so many rabbit holes that you can go down.

1:36:33You know, engineering of America. Like, oh, Jesus. You don't want to think about it. And they take their time to put them, they make it believable what they're saying. Yeah. Yeah. It's hard to know. So, um, when you, uh, you've been watching the UFC for a long time. Do you train at all? Do you do any jiu -jitsu or? Man, believe it or not. I did. It was a long time ago. They were going to do what you switched from a rapper to UFC fighter. And I never forget I did the train and I was in Albuquerque, New Mexico. At Jackson, Winkle? I don't know the exact place. Who was the, um, damn. Is that what Sanchez used to train?

1:37:21I forgot. Yeah, yeah. So wherever that gym was. Yeah, great Jackson. Jackson, Winkle, John. Train the whole thing by the end. I was throwing up in the middle of the ring. And when I did, they told me, okay, now you officially had a good workout. And I was like, fuck this shit that I didn't know about. But then, so that's when I was learning about the leg for a right. So they had like these bamboo sticks kind of, it's like some kind of sticks. And they would just tap my shin and they were like, this is what you do to start hard. And I was like, yeah, I'm good on all that, man. And only other time is with Derek, you know, I go mess around and play with him at the gym.

1:38:00But that's it, man. That's a, that's a lot of work. I'm not down with throwing up every time I workout. But you look like fit and strong. So you must be doing some kind of working out. I work out here and there with time. I feel I've been slacking lately because I've been so focused on just feeling and getting ready for this album. But yeah, definitely. I like to work out. I don't like to do it. I've always said I wanted to learn the, um, the submission side of stuff. Cause man, you know, you can watch some people that you get ready to fight. And they just drop to the ground and they hope that they can get you there.

1:38:35Yeah. And whether it may be the break summer, whether it may be to put your sleeves always been curious to figure that out. Definitely. But that's shit. That work. I was some little intense man. Yeah, but it'll start off like if you go to a beginner's class, it'll be fun. How long have you been doing? I'm doing joint. I started doing it in 90. Seriously in 98. Yeah, I took a couple of classes before that, but not much. And then in night, you know, I did like a little bit of Carlson Gracies. But then in 98, I joined John Jacques Machados. And that's when I really started training. I never really did it to fight just to train.

1:39:15Just to train. I was already 30. So I don't need to be get my ass kicked. I'm busy doing other shit. But when you see the sacrifice that fighters put in, and what it does to their body, and the amount of attention that they have to put to their craft, it's, you don't dabble in that. I don't want to dabble in that. Like what they're doing. I wouldn't, you know, what they did, what you're doing with a professional fighter, you're taking like one of the riskiest paths in all of life. You can agamble your body and the function of your body to make your living. And the function of your body while you're going against other trained killers and just throwing bones at each other.

1:39:54Slam and shins and elbows into heads and strangling people and taking arm bars and like, whoa. So probably what would be the average now the average aids anywhere from what 25 to 35 maybe. For profiders. Yeah. Well, you got Roe, Roe, who is like 18 years old. Yeah, of course he's the youngest guy. He's really good too. He's really good. He's got a massive potential. You're getting like a lot of pretty good guys in their early 20s now, which is interesting because in the early days, it took guys a while to like put all the pieces together. You know, they didn't, you know, they maybe started as a wrestler and then they learned how to strike or they started as striker and they learn how to wrestle.

1:40:39You're seeing these kids coming up that are 20 years old. They're like proficient in everything. Submissions, kickboxing, they put it all together beautifully. They're trained in MMA from a very young age. Instead of adapting a previous skill set like boxing or wrestling to MMA. They're learning the whole thing from the jump. And I think those guys have a giant advantage. And they're also like every generation, there's always going to be the greats, right? You're always going to have your Mike Tyson's, you Michael Jordan's, you're always going to have your greats. But every generation seems to develop more and more high level athletes in every sport.

1:41:20And in MMA that's, you know, no different. It's maybe even more prevalent in MMA. It's exploding now. So you see in like Dana White's Tuesday night contender series. You'll see guys on that show that are just straight up killers. And you're like, this guy is an absolute UFC caliber fighter and they're fighting to get a shot on the show. So these guys that are coming up are already really good, really good. So yeah, I watch one thing I came to understand man, like I will watch. Like even now still I go support our fight. Like I go do the theory fighting and Houston and other things. But you watch some fighters go from there to the UFC.

1:42:04And I don't think people really understand how qualified the you have. It's a different type of monster. So you know, it's just as if somebody coming from college that jumping to the pros. Yeah. Like they're really good at what they do. And that's the count. Yeah, yeah, it counts. It's the top of the heap. You know, there's there's guides in the UFC that aren't like any organization ever at the top of the heap. But there's some other organizations right now like Bellator has some really good fighters. One FC has some really good fighters. Just guys that are like commensurate that they could probably get to the UFC.

1:42:43But when they come, they still hard for them though. It's hard. It's hard for everybody in the UFC. I mean, look at we were talking about Dustin Poie and Justin Gachi. Yeah. Those guys are the cream of the crop. And when they go at it like that, you know, one guy could get cracked and that's what we saw. Yeah. And that's how good they are. I mean, at that level, that's really, you know, one guy can win. One guy can lose. It's like they're that good. Like almost anything can happen. That's why that next fight between Alibera and Islam Akhacah is very interesting. Because Islam got him in the first fight and submitted him.

1:43:17And Alibera is like hell bent on getting that title back. And I want to say. He good. You can't take that from Alibera. Alibera is a beast. He's a beast. And I think watching him struggle with Balkanovsky, you know, he won that decision. But it was a very close fight where a lot of people thought he was going to roll him over. It's a shame because he's so much bigger. Probably gave a lot of people some ideas that, oh, he's vulnerable. He's not completely invincible. Like he's looked in all of his fights. He's human. So maybe Alibera will have more confidence coming at this fight. Who knows? But it's an exciting fight.

1:43:52Islam's a beast. Yeah, he definitely, I mean, look at the camp he came from. Yeah. That's a crazy camp. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're so filled with elite high level grappling. Though those guys are just killers on the ground. And a bunch of them are like great at standup too. A bunch of them are like killer strikers too. Yeah, yeah, definitely, man. You know, I was excited for John Jones to come back to, you know, some of my brothers, man. He's definitely, his legacy's already marked. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, he became the heavyweight champion. He went light heavyweight to heavyweight, you know, and if he defends it, my hope is my hope.

1:44:33Francis and Gano has this big payday fights Tyson Fury. And then the UFC coaxes him back to fight John Jones. That's my hope. And John is ready. I mean, they both my homies was John definitely John wanted that one. That's the one. That's the one. But I thought he, I thought he, not with UFC anymore. Well, he's not with UFC right now because he's going to fight Tyson Fury. But I don't know if he signed a contract with someone else. I don't know what happened. I don't know what the deal is or if maybe they could give him a one fight exemption away from that contract to fight John Jones and the UFC, but they probably wouldn't do that.

1:45:10But that's what, that's the fight you want to see though. You want to see the guy who was the heavyweight champion who relinquished the crown, come back and fight the guy who won it in his absence. That's the perfect fight to see what. And it's also, it's the perfect fight skillfully too because you see, like as, as skillful John is and as dangerous as Francis is. Yeah, Francis definitely super dangerous with his hand. But people, people have done, saying John have hands with John has a little bit of everything. Yeah, a little bit of everything too, man. John's got everything. Yeah. But Francis is as big a heavyweight as there is and as scary a striker in the heavyweight division as there is.

1:45:50I would be very curious to see how that bike goes down. I think it would be very interesting and I really wish they could pull that off because I think that's a legacy fight. And if John retires after that and if he wins, oh my god, he goes down as the all time great. Yeah, I got to. I don't know why people always give him his flowers as all time great because he definitely is that. I mean, you know, I think kind of everybody does now after one the heavyweight title. If you look at his accomplishments, you know, never really lost. He really lost that one fight by disqualification. That's it. Every other fight he's won.

1:46:23And he's fought against the highest level competition from the time he was 21 years old, 22 years old. It's incredible. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I mean, it's hard to deny. And, you know, he beat really good guys. He beat guys that, you know, that were in their prime. You know, John was something special and still is. That would be the big fight. But I'm interested to see him fight steep a two. Steep a has been out for a long time and he's coming back to try to reclaim reclaim the title. That's interesting too. Not to discredit him, but I'm not sure if he got John ain't no easy. No, he's not easy at all.

1:47:01Well, I think for sure it'll be a John be the favorite in that fight, the betting favorite. But, you know, steep a is the most decorated heavyweight of all time. He defended the title more than anybody. He beat so many good people, former champions, junior dos Santos, Fabrizio Vardum, he knocked him out to win the title. He's a monster. He's really good. And, you know, he's had time to relax and recover. You know, after that Francis knockout, you want someone to like really recover from something like that. That was a rough one. Yeah. No. See how this goes, buddy. See how it goes. It's exciting though, right?

1:47:41Definitely, man. Definitely. I'm the... So, I say the power of Francis, even against Tyson, definitely, Fury is definitely going... That's going to count, but, you know, I just don't know how it's going to be with him. Because I... When you always watch these two worlds, Kaladid, it's a little different. Well, Tyson Fury is one of the greatest boxers of all time. Yeah, you got to give him his credit. He's amazing. And, Francis can punch really hard and he can box, but can he box with Tyson Fury? Right. That's what I say. It's always just... I don't know if somebody is just different. Well, it's going to be interesting.

1:48:21I'm interested to see how it plays out. I'm definitely curious to see like what approach Francis takes. What approach Tyson Fury takes. Like, how they handle it. I'm interested. Well, I think the other thing that's going to be a factor is if Francis is cheering the strong enough, that's going to be the thing. Because I'm pretty... He can box, period, but you got to be able to take it. Yeah. Well, Fury can crack you with punches. You don't see coming to... Like, he's sneaky with uppercuts and hooks and he's very clever. He's so good with his feet. His footwork is so good and he's so long. Yeah.

1:48:59And, you know, he doesn't have to hit you with the haymakers right off the bat. You just start popping him with the jab. Popping you, moving, sticking you. It's going to be very interesting. I'm curious to see with Mike Tyson is training Francis. Yeah. That's interesting too. Always low to see. Shout out Tyson. That's my brother, man. Always low to see him work. He's still... Even if you watch him, well, he's just him training. He's still exciting. Just to watch him, man. Now, he's awesome. Yeah. And his style of like just charging forward and switching stances and ripping to the body and ripping to the head.

1:49:34If you can get Francis involved in that style, it'd be very interesting to see. Like what Francis does. Like if you watch him training together, it's pretty exciting. Is he quick? Is he in that standpoint? Is he quick like how Tyson is? It's hard to say. He's not as quick as Tyson. Tyson was a lot smaller. We got to realize when Tyson was in his prime, he was like 220. But he was so fast. Just bobbing, weaving, moving in. Oh my god. And fast. Hard and fast. It wasn't just hard. It was hard and you couldn't get away from it. You couldn't block it. He would just come flying in at people. And Francis is not as fast as that.

1:50:13But he's a lot bigger. Francis is a natural 265. He stopped to lose weight to make the 265 pound heavyweight weight class. So they got a cap on? Yeah. Isn't that crazy? It's 265. Anything over there? Yeah, it's a super heavyweight. And super heavyweight division has never really been established. Who do we get this? Nobody. Nobody. We don't have a super heavyweight division in the UFC. But it does exist. That's why there's a... So it can be done? Yeah, it can be done. But that's why there's a 265 pound weight limit, which is kind of... Seems kind of silly. I'm curious to see what a super heavyweight would look like.

1:50:53There's probably not that many of them. Because there's a small amount of heavyweights. If you think about the size of the UFC roster in the heavyweight division, it's so much smaller than the middleweight or the welterweight or the lightweight, heavyweights are very small division because there's not that many really skilled big men at the top of the heap. It's a hard man. And I think a lot of the elite athletes that are that big, they go in an NFL, go in an NBA, go in somewhere else and make money. I'll get you... You got to want to do that. Like MMA can't be like... You know, if you're going to compete with those guys, you got to be something you want to do.

1:51:31And then you got to find a competition. And see, there was only two of y 'all in that league at this point. What do you think about Charlo and Canelo? That's exciting, isn't it? Man, definitely. Charlo from the town. Yeah. One thing about Houston, we always go on some full Houston. I think it's definitely... This is definitely going to be a big, big look for him.

1:51:57Canelo definitely... He still... If he's not still sitting in this prime, he's just on the outskirts of leaving it. But he can't think that Charlo don't hit hard. Charlo is hard. Yeah, he got to know that. So it's definitely going to be interesting. Just of course, we're going to root for our time regardless, man. But definitely it's going to be a big fight. It's such a wild move for Charlo to jump up two -way classes. I didn't know he don't do two -way classes. Yeah, wasn't he junior mid -a -weight? And this is at 168, isn't that correct? But that's only like how many pounds, maybe? 12th. Super mid -a -weight, that's what this fight is, right?

1:52:45And what is he, the champion at? Junior mid -a -weight? I believe so. But you got to remember, Canal started out that light too, you know? And went all the way up to win the light heavyweight. Yes, the Iron Man is stepping up two -way divisions that have his chance at adding the Super Mid -a -Way crown to his undisputed Super -Walterweight champion. Yeah, Super -Walterweight or Junior Mid -a -Way, it's the same thing. Then on which organizing body? Yeah, the fight where I've been has been exciting, definitely man. Yeah, do you follow all boxing? For the most part, I mean, you know, the crazy thing, man, I'd be so overwhelmed with life I'd barely get to watch TV, but in the process, I'll be trying to catch a lot.

1:53:40Who are you from, the bring up, or what you thinking? Terrence Crawford. Yeah, man. Terrence, the homie, you know, Arrow, like my brother too, and me and Terrence, I just seen Terrence probably like two, three days ago. Man, that was a... Virtuoso. Virtuoso performance. The thing is, you can't discredit Crawford at all. I don't think people really gave him his credit. But, you know, for me, like I told him just from just a homeboy standpoints for us, him and Earl is, I just appreciate how he handled it. You know what I'm saying? Like, that was solid the way he handled it. And it's just because he could have won about it a different way, you know?

1:54:29And then you got to realize, man, Internet and fans can make stuff way more cruel. And then the fact that they got action to run it back, you know? I think in any situation everybody learn from what mistakes everybody learn from what moves you made to start trying to sharpen it up for the next one. He'll be interested in seeing if Earl can make an adjustment. Very interesting. But man, Terrence is good. And he has that magical ability to switch hands. His switching of stances is something that it was hilarious because when I had him on the podcast, he was telling me his coaches to stop fucking around.

1:55:12Stop fucking around, switch his stances. And he's like, oh man, I'm going to figure this out. And he figured it out. And now he's the best switch hitter since Marvin Hagler. I mean, he's amazing at it. The way he's able to fucking just cut angles and throw just as hard from the left as he does from the right with equal proficiency. And he knows where to be at all times. He knows where you're going to be at all times. Like, man, when you watch a guy that's that good at anything, but especially that good at something so dangerous as boxing, you really appreciate how hard it must be to get there.

1:55:45Even looking at the wind, he got a nice amount of wind as far as, you know, as far as, which is under feeder record man. Yeah, but that one, the arrow spence one was the big one. That was the big one because that was the test. Like, is he as good as everybody thinks he is and maybe even better. He's even better. I mean, in my book, he's an all -time great. Like, I would have loved to see him versus Sugar Ray Leonard. You know, I'm talking about like in their primes. In the primes, which is one of the most amazing things about boxing is he could think like that, you know, compare guys like Roberto Durán in his prime, you know.

1:56:23Yeah, he was a monster too, man. Yeah, man. But they even think back all the heavy weights from back then was monster. Oh, yeah, man. That was probably back then. I mean, heavyweight probably was the ideal boxing size, you know, but now, of course, you know, you got so many different divisions. Yeah. But you got to think of just all of them from back then, man. Oh, yeah. I watch old heavyweight fights sometimes. The other day, I watched Ernie Shaver's versus George Foreman. You ever see that? Mm -hmm. And they big as hell. They big as hell. They're so big and they're both two of the biggest punchers that have ever fought in the heavyweight division.

1:57:00And those dudes just walked on each other. It was a crazy fight. One thing I said about the heavyweight from back then, they definitely, they definitely did some damage. Let me see about that, Jamie. That's the one to see. Yeah, like it definitely does a real permanent damage to it. Like they was really, oh, man. If you look at some of the hits that Tyson put on people, I don't, you can't even imagine how they made it through it. Yeah, they're probably never the same again. Some of those knockouts. Yeah. Some of them. Like the Marvus Frazier one. That was a bad one. Did you find that Ernie Shaver's in George Foreman?

1:57:35I'm only seeing videos that are video games. Oh, really? It says they never fought. What? Who did George Foreman's last fight before he came back? It wasn't, no, it wasn't Ernie Shaver's. It was a Kent. Here's his last opponent's. You got to go way back. Way back to when he retired and then came back. So before Dwight Muhammad Ka 'wik, I know that was a heavyweight, so keep going down. All right. So when Joe Frazier Scott -Ladou, keep going up. Jimmy Young, Loss of Jimmy Young, what year is that? 77, keep going. There's 10 years gap right there. Yeah. All right. So who was the last one that he fought after he fought?

1:58:16Oh, Ron Lyle. That's what it was. He fought Ron Lyle. That's what it was. That was another guy there, Conflugged and Crack. That was a crazy fight. That's right. How you been in tune? I haven't really got to follow up on him, but Ali's family tree. How they been doing? His family tree? Yes, far as the nephews or the grandson of the boxing. Oh, that's right. Yeah, he's doing well. I think he's undefeated, right? And his big fellas. George, that's such a unique style too.

1:58:54Oh, yeah, this is it. Yeah. Damn. This is a crazy fight, man. Caesar's palace outside Las Vegas.

1:59:09Who won that fight? I believe George won. I think he knocked him out. I think it was like the seventh. But it was a war, man. He got dropped. He got rocked.

1:59:23Just stopped the fight. Bro, they didn't stop fights for nothing back then. They're not fighting back at all. It is. And they're going to count. They're going to count, bro. They're going to give him a count. Look, referee just waddled over.

1:59:42He is not meant to. Isn't it crazy? They would have let him get up. It's really crazy.

1:59:52That's a crazy fight. There was some big dudes though. If I was his first fight, I think I'd have three lost to Ali. Ali was someone special. Ali was someone special. Yeah. And not just special. And big. I didn't realize I'll be a good one. Yeah, not just special because there's abilities. But when the Vietnam War came out, he said, I'm not going to fight. For what? What am I doing? Why do you want to be fighting these big con people? I don't know them. Yeah. And everybody just, I mean, they stripped him of his title and his prime. He was at the very peak of his abilities. One of my favorite fights is right before they stripped him.

2:00:35He fought Cleveland Big Cat Williams. And Cleveland was like this big, muscular power puncher. And Ali just boxed this beautiful dance and just pieced him up. And see if we find that. It's one of my all -time favorite boxing performances. Because it's where you get to see Ali. Before they stripped him, it was titled, and then he came back. He was kind of a different fighter when he came back. But before they stripped him, he would box like a middleweight. But he was, you know, a heavyweight, a big tall dude. His weave game was amazing. Against Sue, sorry. Cleveland Big Cat Williams. So they robbed us of the real Ali.

2:01:16Because during those three years where they stripped him of his title and he couldn't box, that was the years where he was still at its best. And he really didn't train during those years. So when he came back, he just wasn't the same guy. He didn't move like he moved when he was younger, you know. But this is like him in his fucking prime. Just scooch at head a little. See some of this action. And Cleveland's a jack dude. I mean, look at the muscles on Cleveland. And he's moving forward and Ali is just boxing him up. I mean, what fucking heavyweight moved like this before him? Like who is footwork?

2:01:54I mean, imagine fighting a guy like that. They didn't exist before him. In the heavyweight division, and looking to move. Still to this day, if you saw this guy, and he was on HBO today, you'd be like, whoa, who is this new dude? Like, oh my god, what kind of movement? And you got to think, you know, we're talking about the 1960s. I think this was 67. And then there's nothing like that before. What year was it, Jamie? Does it say? It doesn't matter. I'm pretty sure it's 67. Now go a little further ahead so when he starts getting them.

2:02:36I mean, Cleveland just has to try to chase him down. And every time Ali would just stop and pop the jack, look at that one too. One too, moving away. I mean, moving away.

2:02:51I mean, moving away.

2:02:59I mean, the fucking hand speed, the combination. The nation's. The volume. Look at that. He just stands over him with his hands raised.

2:03:12Amazing fight.

2:03:24I mean, come on. Come on.

2:03:36They picked him up and put him back on the stool. Like, you're going to get back out there, kid. And you're going to kill him. So he came back off the stool and boxed some more. They could have easily stopped that fight, right? They just didn't stop fights the same way back then. Today they would look at this and go, that's enough. That's enough. But back then they're like, one, two, three. And they go to the corner and he starts back again. Four, five. I mean, this poor dude needs to be saved. He's there. You're having a good time. There are rules about recovery time. Oh, there are no rules, bro.

2:04:13You fight next weekend. They didn't care about people. They just, you know, they wanted you to fight so they can make money. Look at that right hand. Oh my goodness. I mean, just playing with them. Look at that jab. I mean, he was just a complete, unique fighter. He moved like Sugar Ray Robinson, but he was a heavyweight. Oh, the referee finally saves him. Finally. He could have stopped that fight a long, long fucking time ago. They were different back then the way they stopped fights. I mean, I think in any sports they were a lot more rougher back then. Yeah, football certainly was. Yeah, basketball, everything.

2:04:54Yeah, everything was. Yeah, different times, man. Very different. Yeah. It's probably better today. It's probably better today. If people are looking out for you more. Yeah. You know, especially when it comes to fighters. You know, someone's got to look out for them. You got to, they don't want to stop. Sometimes you got to save them from themselves. This video winner, this guy had to play an NBA with a broken neck. What? He said, if you could walk, you can play. Yeah. Oh, my God. 1980. That's the yellow ball. He played multiple NBA games in a neck brace after he broke his neck. I'm not exactly sure how it happened.

2:05:32I don't know if it was in game, but there's a few. Yeah, that's wild. That's wild. That's wild. Yeah. I know for a fact there was a lot rougher back then. Humans were tougher. They dealt more adversity. It's like the world wasn't as easy. It's crazy because it was just different right because back then when you have people 30 and 40, that was really old. 30 and 49 is like, I'm 43. You know what I'm saying? So it's normal now. Yeah. Everything was just different back then. 56. 56. You see, well guys, we're like halfway dead. Yeah. It's like nobody knew how to work out. Nobody knew how to eat right.

2:06:17No vitamins. Yeah. It was different. Yeah. Yeah. It's better now in that sense. Definitely. Definitely better now. Yeah, but so my son, I trained him, um, trained him with boxing. I'm pretty sure he's going to go to doing the MMA stuff just to learn, you know, but, uh, you know, I'm big on being there. It was particularly self -hound to your business. So he loved football and that. So I'm just letting them. Letting them do his thing. And then so crazy speaking of football and all that man, you can make more in college than you can in the NBA down there. Isn't that crazy? But it's not a good thing now.

2:07:02Yeah, because they tried to stop it for so long, man. It doesn't make any sense. You are making money and the athletes aren't. Yeah. And how many athletes, because it's so hard to do, how many athletes blow their knees out? You know, in college and never make it. And meanwhile they made millions of dollars for the city or for the university, rather. Yeah. They should get some money. How much of those guys are making? Uh, I don't know what they're making a lot because you, I think being just good and know the rival, you can make, um, people be saying millions. You know, it can be one to me. That's a lot for a college student as opposed to if you're getting all these different deals.

2:07:43Now, if you go to thinking about maybe LSU, they probably getting. Reese is probably getting crazy money at this point. What do you know, Jamie? How much like top college athletes get paid? I think LeBron's son right now, Bronny James is. Arguable to be the top deal. He's got a couple million dollar deal. Um, some of them, I don't know how much they don't have to be fully disclosed either, which is kind of strange. That is kind of strange. It's a, imagine if you graduated four years ago and you're like, fuck. I could be British shit. In a way, they really kind of owe those people. You know, but you know, they do, they deserve because you got to realize.

2:08:27You got a lot of people who support college games and that. So you have some of them stars that deserve to get it, you know. Oh, yeah, those college alumni people go ham. They donate a lot. They go crazy with that stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely, man. I mean, they make fucking billions of dollars, right? Shout out to them, man. A lot of, a lot of talent, man. A lot of talent. What changed that they had to pay the athletes now? There's a big push. I saw Ed O 'Bannon, who was a basketball player from UCLA in the 90s. Um, they put a, on all of like a lawsuit through to get like a, uh, there's most of the big deal for them was the NCAA basketball and football games.

2:09:12Because it was, when you played them, it was from EA Sports. There's a lot like Madden, but they couldn't put their names in it. And then they became an easy way. You could download the rosters and put the names on them. Uh, it was already, you could tell who the player was. They just didn't have their name on it. So like they gave them their full stats and full abilities and all that. And a lot of people, it was a very popular game. We're buying it for those reasons. Oh, they made, they got that pushed through like through courts. And then once that happened, I think that the, you know, it's Wild West.

2:09:39Isn't that dirty that they did that? That's okay. No, everybody, man, everybody do what I can. They took to keep the money as much as they can. I know. In every business. Just, um, dirty. Just dirty. You know, and some people they don't really think it's bad business to do that. They think that's, you know, they think that's the way to be for me. I just never been. I need to serve as tight man. Yeah. I'm gonna give mine regardless. That's good for you. That's a good perspective. Like I said, you're very balanced. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, something I forgot to tell you too, you know, I got my, my cartoon.

2:10:14I haven't, we haven't took it to a network, but, um, so I had my cartoon that was out, um, called Adventures of Trey. And I ended up doing, well, now you know, everybody on strike, but, um, yeah. I partner with the Bay of Bay. I don't even know what I'm supposed to say. I just said, a very, very big movie slash comedian for, um, the new cartoon, but everything kind of is on hold. Just to figure out where I'm going to go. I always thought I would have ended up on the Dose one, but they didn't, they didn't come give me. So is everything still frozen? Are they, when are they going to work that out?

2:10:53Are they close to figuring that out? That strike thing? Because I think Bill Marr was about to redo his show without the writers, because he just wanted to employ everybody else. And then he said something on Twitter that it seems that they're going to restart it. Resume negotiations, and I guess that they had decided for a long time. And they were not going to be resuming, so that's why people were starting to make other plans. Damn. They're waiting people out. Because you got the right to say in the act of the Austin. Mm -hmm. That's going to hurt. And the other actors have not talked about resuming negotiations.

2:11:30You just wanted to say guess the other. Fuck. How long has it been?

2:11:38I don't think I just want to say right here. This doesn't say. It has to be like a few months, right? That will, you definitely. I would have met. Maybe second started. Second month? No, may second. May second? What? So five months, four months, almost six months. Whoa. Really? I'm pretty sure they're going to have to find the way to figure it out. Not even. I wouldn't even say from the act of standpoint. Like, realistically, they're going to have to pay them. Like, they need them. Yeah. Well, the actors and then also all the people that are involved in production that can't work either. Because if you're, you know, you're a grip or you're a lighting guy or whatever you're doing.

2:12:22And that's all you do. Yeah. And those people can work. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're going, I'm pretty sure they're going to have to make it. I don't see a drag in two. Maybe, I mean, you can maybe drag to them to the end of the year. But at some point, they're going to have to give in to give them what they want. Yeah, I don't know what the fuck is happening. I don't know. But they've talked about doing that with the UFC, like a fighters union. But I don't think that would work. Fighters are two individuals. Like if someone offered someone to fight like a big fight, maybe they, I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong.

2:12:57What would the union be to do it? The union would be to negotiate minimum contracts, maybe tweak healthcare, maybe put together some sort of a retirement plan, 401k plan for fighters. All those are good ideas. Yeah, definitely, you know, just to be able to take care of family afterwards. Yeah. Definitely is important. But there's never been like a fighter's union that worked. And I don't know if that's because it can't work. I've never heard of one working. Like the boxers didn't, did they have a boxing union? Yeah. It seems like it only works in some industries, but man, these fucking strikes.

2:13:38If you're in that business, like that's, that's hard, especially coming right off the pandemic where everybody didn't work for a long time already. Yeah. See, man, even though I'm glad I'm, why ain't gonna say I'm glad I'm not there work as a player. I'm not trying to get an act that we're at some point, but even just everything with the pandemic, like I just had to figure different ways, man. Like our company, um, bump box ended up soaring through the pandemic, because now you have everybody at home, everybody wanted jam music, everybody wanted to do different type stuff. So different stuff like that was dope.

2:14:13Um, I just, I've always been a hustler now. You know, I got food trucks now. I got 18 will, um, man, I don't know about everything. So it was a crazy story. You know, Popeyes had a run with a chicken sandwich, right? Yeah. You remember everybody's gonna crazy over it. Yeah. So my personal shift, I just always just have to make random stuff. And one day I'm like, man, I'm not waiting in that line. I want to make my own chicken sandwich and we did it. And the way that he made it, it was how knows is different, man. And it got to the point. Everybody just thought, how the truth chicken sandwich? So that's just like, man, we're just gonna do the truth truck.

2:14:55It'll be chicken sandwich. It'll be, um, chicken, sweet tacos. He got this, the Spanish corn. He do it's like no other man. It's just a bunch of different stuff. So where can people get this? So right now we've been going for to figure out. Like I'm wondering the people, man, I'm cool with adapting the stuff, but I like to push it to the limit. So lately we just been going back and forth, figuring out what we want to make a permanent location. But knowing me, I'm trying to find a lot and create my own food part at that point. You know, nice. So right now is no permanent spot, but that's what I'm looking for.

2:15:37One day. Yeah. I'm one day within the next month. I'm open up a spot. Nice. So the trucks, they're trucks ready. I just got to figure out where I want to be. That's good for everybody to go. And people want to find out anything about this or website thing. Go to as far as the truth truck. No, you gave me idea. I do need to do that. Because I made it mainly Instagram, you know, yeah, get that on Instagram now. You have it on Instagram. Yeah. So you can look up there. It is the true truck. Yeah, the true truck. And then you have the true truck calm. Not sure. I do know. Get that shit before this air.

2:16:11It's going to be one of them Russian porn sites. I'm looking for a boyfriend. Yeah. The main place for you. Yeah. Yeah. Matter of fact, look, I pay for it. Now what I was going to say the main thing people can always my Instagram at trade A .B. And like I'm hands on with everything. That man, the main other thing that we're doing. See so much other stuff. I talk to you probably off ill because if I go to pushing it now before for reasons like this. And I get to it here to myself, but true truck dot com is available. But the THA. Yeah, THA. Don't fuck this up white boy. Let's see. It's not available.

2:16:58What? It's not available. But you know what my people. Yeah, he probably has it. It says it's taken. See my. Yeah. So I'm going to find out they may I know I didn't do it. Yeah. I hope someone didn't see your truck and then register it. That would because you know what you talk about an Instagram already. Yeah, because you know what people do do is they'll go by and then wait. Yeah. I'm going to find that out. I hopefully let's hope this conversation just wasted and it's already done. But on that, you know, we can always man. You know, the crazy thing you shouted out bump box one time and it's it went crazy that next day.

2:17:37Or bump box dot com. Yeah, you want a few people that actually. It's traffic like no other to the site. Oh, beautiful. Yeah. Good to hear that. Yeah. And that's been a blessing too. So we've been able to like, you know, we had the Selena box, the Leo, the notorious big. And what I was doing at its ways to actually feed the family, you know, and do the DMX, you know, it's different ways we do it. We can help the states and also find ways to get more money for the family. So everything I do man, I always incorporate trying to give back in some, some sense. And I remember talking to Tyson and Michael's like, man, Trey, I want you to do so much and spend so much.

2:18:22He like all the stuff you do. We were talking about my holiday. I'm not sure if you familiar. So and Houston, my holiday is trade day July 22nd, 23rd and 24. I got traded and Houston. I got one in Milwaukee too. But on my holiday, it was a day that everybody was celebrating me, but I switched in and made it a day to celebrate for the city. So I get all the kids in the city. They school supplies, backpacks, uniforms. I bring game rides. I bring a bunch of athletes, singers, comedians, entertainers, movie stars, the kids only can see on YouTube. I bring them all out. I rent a stadium out and it's just a family fun.

2:19:02They were kids get to experience different stuff that they never get to experience. I'm giving away cars, scholarships. Like I just make it the whole weekend. I mean, just giving back. But he was like, man, Trey, you had your foundation so long. Man, it's probably people out there that if they knew what you did, that would damn their donate or people would come sponsor. And I want them people. I don't know if you get you consider kind of pride for just like, man, I don't really like ask some people for nothing. I'ma figure it out and just get it done. So lately, I've been really trying to focus on really making sure people understand about my foundation and what it is.

2:19:40I really do so they can actually do they rather do they research or just do part do take part in it because you have a website where any of the stuff is listed. Yeah, angel by nature dot com and then a lot of people knows from angel by nature or during Harvey, we started relief gang. But everything we do, man, we do stuff. If you use a go to Google my name, you see a bunch of people only get to see like 10 20 % of what I do. Oh, yes, angel by nature. Well, trade. Thank you very much for coming here, man. I appreciate you. Good luck with your new album. Good luck with bomb box and the true truck and everything.

2:20:21It's always great to see you. Definitely. You know, I'm pretty sure we see each other soon. For sure. All right. Bye.

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Trae Tha Truth is a rapper, record producer, and philanthropist. His new album "Stuck In Motion" will be available October 20. http://onerpm.link/stuckinmotion
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