#2048 - Reggie Watts

35:55I bet I know where you stand on many issues Yeah, the problem with that is if your tribe all agrees to something you signal to your tribe I also agree to and it's much easier than having a real objective Conversation about the realities of that thing and not being attached to these ideas But just saying what are the realities of these things? Yes. Yes. I always call it the 10 % rule Like I may believe in something and and think about it and go yeah, that makes sense for me But I always leave 10 % margin of me being completely wrong or me misunderstanding the whole situation Yeah, because I can't hold on to something so fervently because I have like I have all kinds of friends I've conservative friends.

36:39I have I have anarchist friends. I have agnostic friends whatever. I have religious friends. I have leftist friends But the thing that I that brings us together is that we can have conversations about issues And if I bring up something like you know something that is a counter to what they believe they're least listening and they're like That's interesting. Well Yeah, if we incorporate a little bit of what you're talking about into what we're doing and we kind of deescalate on there We can arrive at something that's a little bit more rational that works for more people What's stunning how mostly attached people are oftentimes to subject that they're not even informed on And then yes, of course really have a conversation with them about the actual data They fall apart because they're ideologically driven their camp whether they're a right wing conservative or a left wing Progressive their camp believes a certain thing and so they're locked in on this certain thing is being correct And then emotionally they respond to a differing opinion And that is just rough man.

37:38Those are rough conversations. I don't enjoy them I really enjoy having conversations people that I disagree with that are polite and kind and objective and fair Those are great conversations. Yes, they're stimulating. Yes. I get to see how you think about things and why you think about these things And those conversations are so important and for whatever reason nowadays people don't want to have them anymore They want to like I think it's a social media 100 % 100 % it's a social media and that you can interact and you can say something The thing is like if something affects you emotionally you can immediately state how you're feeling.

38:15Yeah And the context is so limited on that statement I've gotten into I go on I go on Twitter. I'm not gonna call it x but I go on Twitter and And I have these discussions with some people that are like oh there is no way Whatever I say and I'm always practicing different hacks and like okay Well, maybe I'll just go in with uh You're obviously in you're there's some insecurity that you're feeling and you're feeling frustration and so you're kind of like You know, you're kind of expounding these things because it kind of gives you an energy in the moment Yeah, that makes you feel as though you're doing something.

38:49Yeah, and and often their reply is is Generally more of the same But slightly different Information and I'm like okay, I see you're not you're not in the mode where you want to have a conversation We're not having a face -to -face conversation. You're trying to win you're playing against yeah, and I'm not I'm not in the winning It's like I want I just want to I want to come to an understanding because there's nothing better I mean one of my favorite highs in the world and I love drugs, but my favorite high in the world is When I had a conversation This is just an example. I was in Montana back steps of my friend Wally's house his next door neighbor was an armorer in the Iraq war Was responsible for I don't know I think it was a battalions worth of weapons and it was only he and another guy that were monitoring these things So he has all these stories and his viewpoint on all kinds of things that are he's definitely more conservative leaning I had this conversation about the perspective from people who are you know It was a police issue and I was saying like what police need to be better trained It's like it's not necessarily about getting rid of them But I believe that they need better training in other countries police go to school for two and a half years before they even get out So there's a different difference in quality and we kind of went back and forth and I saw his eyes narrowing And it was just kind of like steaming up a little bit But then the more we talked about it and the more I said like I understand where you're coming from I get where you're coming from and I'm not saying um, I'm not saying The opposite of what you're talking about what I'm looking for is a solution of perspective and And and I saw him cool.

40:25I was crazy. We cooled off. Mm -hmm And we left like he's you know, he's still gonna believe what he's believing But it did not escalate and it was feeling kind of a little dangerous and then it was fine And I'm like the more that we can have these conversations people aren't what they are for their entire lives Yeah, they are they are they aren't even what they are necessarily any any given moment because when we get Information that we can tap into and feel and get it from somebody instead of these tiny little bite size Yeah, nuggets that are like decontextualized Then it's brilliant and I get off on that.

41:02That's the my biggest high in the world It's like my my friends going like uh this about this and I'm like okay, okay, I hear you But what about this and they're just like oh, but check this out and they're like oh well, you know I don't know what it is. I guess a wonderful thing about some drugs. Yes, that's because some drugs like for me It's marijuana marijuana makes me so much more considerate of other people's perspectives and feelings Because I'm much more sensitive when when I'm on it So when I'm talking to someone I'm so much less likely to engage in like a real disagreement You know, it'll be much more passive much more like okay, I see what you're saying Okay, so that so you feel that like reaffirm and then have you considered and this is a thing and I also I say this all the time Because it's a very important thing to say I've tried very hard to not be Connected to my my ideas that these are just ideas and I as a individual as a as a separate being It conscious being and engaging with these ideas, but I don't claim them as my own to the point where I'm married to them And I and I fight for them and these are my fucking these are my ideas and I stand by them There's only a few sure like you know, yeah, there's a few yeah, right?

42:23But most things I'm like I want to know why you think the way you think and that That's one of the beautiful things about having a podcast is I have so many conversations with so many people That have completely different perspectives Man, I will get to get this chance to explore them totally and it's it's funny It's like I have this concept where I talk about um, I don't I kind of believe that we all play characters of ourselves like we kind of have a character version of herself But then there's the actor right or if you want to use in car terms there's a there's a pilot or there's a driver and then there's a machine and And well how I like to think of it is I like to address the the actor Or the piece of consciousness.

43:05This is inside of the character. That's like playing the character and generally Generally that works really well because if I'm making an effort to Speak to that part and then to kind of like try to see myself from their perspective People sense that they sense that you're making an effort and they appreciate it because you're recognizing The the sovereign being that they are not necessarily all the stuff around them I've talked to like people that are like super in a conspiracy theory is never really down into this crazy zone where It's like if you're talking about encryption. It's asymmetrical.

43:42There's no way you're hacking that but you just skip to the quantum level and just talk to the consciousness and I know it sounds kind of esoteric, but it's like it It works. It's because I want to respect I want to give everyone the respect of them And acknowledge that they are a being on the planet. They're human being and They exist, but it's also you as a human you're a really nice guy and every conversation I've had with you It's been kind of consistent like that. You're just a nice person You you generally want genuinely want to get along with people and you genuinely want like a real discourse real conversation Some people aren't into that game.

44:25I know and when you encounter those people like if someone says not want to fucking play tennis And you're like but we're playing ping pong. No, no, no fucking tennis. You gotta go. Okay. I want to play ping pong Have a nice day. I'm not gonna play tennis. What if we play tennis? What is the one pickleball pickleball? I hear pickleballs really fun. Oh my god. I Yeah, I hear that too, but I won't just because of the name I can't but but no, it's true It's like I just I just I don't know I think that we're here and we might as well have a good time. Yeah, so like yeah, be as nice as you can like like fake kindness That's all I'm looking for kindness is like if I feel like someone's being kindness great I run into tons of assholes that I've seen like treat people like shit But most of the time I can get in there if I can get in there and they'll go like oh, that's a cooler respect You man.

45:16I'm like, okay great because I respect you too, but also Don't do that shit like like you could do stuff different. Yeah, and And they'll come back at you and you'll get an energy that you actually want right well That's a thing too like some people say like I'm at that guy. I knew as an asshole Okay, well how were you? When I met him he's really nice. Yeah, how did you engage you this person? Yeah, you know some people It's like who you are is oftentimes a product of who you're talking to too like who you are in that moment Yeah, is oftentimes how this person receives you and how they're talking to you 100 % man, it's like I there's nothing I love more than like someone like And I'm just like hey, what's going on?

46:00Oh you you okay like but you know, and they're like why do you care? You know, it's like well because I don't know I dig you if someone's coming at me There's definitely times where I will push back on somebody if they're being a dick to me, but I love figuring out a way to be Again like asymmetrical or just just illogical to them irrational to them because like if someone's like I'm gonna do something that I'm expecting a certain reaction from that generally I get when I do it And then I if they're like here's some scrambled eggs and then I give them back a hat with like you know a lizard crawling around it And I'm like here's the and they're like what what is this and then when they're in that confused state It's that's the opportunity where you could just be like man.

46:40This is silly. What are you doing? Like we don't you don't have to be this way It's there's like life is Awesome, I mean, and I know it's hard to see for some people they're really really affected by their environment they're affected by the way they've been treated they've affected by all kinds of things. Oh, yeah, but guaranteed like you play if a if a vanocchipella an amazing acupelic singer started singing Generally for someone will be like oh shit, that's amazing and that's those types of things those are the moments where you realize like oh We're all in this we're all in this together There's you're not getting rid of people by like like you're not gonna become happier because you're gonna control the situation Absolutely like that's not really how it works.

47:18There's more power in being collaborative Yeah, and you can stay and it doesn't mean you have to give up everything I think people they're too binary. They're like if I give up here now I've lost everything It's not true. It's like you become stronger when you become better collaborating. Yeah, and you create alliances Yeah, and it's cool and you can have rivalry. I mean rivalries I think are fun if they're not violent. It's like I think that rivalries are like you know, I hate that douchebag or whatever I love like we I always practice like fake negative Like to like fake negative stuff where we're just like Yeah, that that guy's just such a such a dick or whatever and just like yeah, and everyone's like yeah Such a dick.

47:58I mean look at the way you just help that guy Whatever And I love I love it because it's like well, you can kind of exercise a little bit of the real thing But it's not real, you know, right? So it lets off steam. Yeah, and I mean you know about this comedians do it all the time to each other Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, all the time rousing what I had it so much fun to do that with comedians And it's such a bummer when you try that on regular people. Oh, no, they do not get it. You're like right and they're like Okay, yeah, it's like especially through text messages like some of my comedian friends It's I'd love the ridiculous text messages.

48:32We'll text message show the most horrific shit the most ridiculous shit Back and forth to each other just so cutting to each other and just laughing everyone's laughing and it's fun I know it's fun. You're sparring. I know you're sparring and that's what that thing I mean it's like you know in love. It's a fun totally yeah Like the reason why they can say those things to use because you know they love you and you love them It's fun and it's funny and it's it's funny and it's the it's the best. I mean I don't know that's my thing Also, you know, I'm an artist so For me when I see art. It's like we're all intersected by art every artist is a great Unifier because it just goes straight to the the initial core of what being a human being is about which is a cure Yes creative problem solving Adventure like that's generally what human beings are there like what's over there?

49:20How does that work? Yeah Oh, I bet you I could make this. Hey, what do you work on? Can I help you? Whatever? Can you help me? Whatever I think it's that but then again when people on survival mode All the bad shit happens and then you get people taking advantage of people in those bad situations And then they're harnessing they're extending their disappointment with life in themselves On to those people and then they start motivating and you're just guys guys guys guys Well, I feel like a human beings have a certain amount of conflict and problem solving that they have to address on a daily basis in order to be Balanced certainly and I think the more you can do that with yourself Yes, the better off you are with other people by Controlled adversity doing things that are difficult is the most important for me If I don't work out a couple of days in a row I'm a different person and I know that seems like well you got a problem Yeah, I do have a problem most of it's genetic.

50:15I'm pretty sure But my problem it has a very simple solution that I've been practicing for decades and I understand it And I know how to mitigate that problem and when I do I am a much better person and so I do that But when I don't do that for a few days I feel like a lot of people feel all the time and just a touch of it just a touch of it I don't have decades of it. Yeah compiled with alcoholism and fucking drug abuse and and and problems and Stress and lack of sleep and poor diet and all these other contributing factors that make you a fucking maniac Yep and environment, you know, so just I just have a touch of it after a couple of days I'm like, I'm feel fucking irritable You know like this is not this is not a good way.

50:59This is the opposite of ketamine This is not a good way to interface with people if I'm tense and worked up and I run into someone and they're taking too long to talk You know, they just blobbing and blah. Okay, get to the fucking point. Yeah, come on man But I'll say it that way come on man get to the point and then that person's like hey Fucking rude that guy's rude. Oh, you're giving me a fucking ear beating like oh my god He's hostile like I'm sorry. I'm tense But if I was high and worked out. Yeah, I'd be like I see where you're coming from Maybe joke around a little bit like does this story have an end yeah, right like with a smile Right just make fun of the situation like I see what you're saying, but Time here I get out of here.

51:40I do the thing where I could like rapidly Basically describe what they're like getting to the point at what someone's describing like like very rapidly and And then like going like is that what you mean? Oh, yeah, okay? Okay, now let's move to the next thing they want to keep going expand on it. So it's their own that's That's true, but there's also a problem that some people just suck at talking of course some people are just not very good at it And they're practicing on you like they're practicing that's true. Yeah, that's very frustrating people talking at you Man, I'm telling you man. It's like I It's interesting when I have friends that are like high visible high visibility friends or you know people that are in the spotlight And I see how they interact with people you know and that mean So they might not even be friends.

52:23Maybe I'm at a gathering or something like the amy's party or something like that And I love like watching all the social interactions and seeing how they how they do it like the other night I met As it Sarah Silverman's rooftop party and it was like all these amazing people were up there It was really cool to see everybody we hadn't seen each other in a long time all the people I grew up with doing comedy in 2003 in little little tiny club in New York whatever it's like look at us now, you know, it's like this is cool We did we did good or good -ish and anyways, Owen Wilson was up there and I noticed it a strategy that he used which I thought was kind of Interesting which was He was leaving and he had kind of met me before but I don't think he recognized who I was anything You know knew who I was but he had like this way of like I'm accepting Positive energy.

53:08I'm reflecting it immediately, but I also have the momentum of I'm getting the fuck out of here Yes, and I loved seeing that I was like I've done that I know what it is and And you know, I don't know It's like you deal with a lot of people you kind of have to either you're just like I don't I'm terrible with people I'm I'm not going to these things where I'm out or I At this point any the way anybody behaves towards me I'm not really shocked I've seen almost everything I've seen Shortness I've seen people that other people think are rude But they might be on the spectrum and they don't know how to they just jump into something as though you've been talking for like hours Yeah, I assume that you know what they're talking about in those cases like I've developed a lot of patience for that So like I try and when I'm with my friends I'm like I'm like they're like whoa you were really patient with that person.

53:58I was like It's the only way I can do it It's it's because I have to give people a little bit of time. I don't want them to take advantage of me But I got it give them at least a little bit of time to hear what they're talking about because Fuck man the worst thing my worst nightmare is like the more successful I get the more detached I become from the general human populace I can't I can't do it most of places I hang out with I had a friend And gave me a compliment once they were like you're like I leave you're like a famed famous person that doesn't live their life like a famous person I'm like yeah, I'm not gonna fucking do that shit.

54:32I'm going to the DIY spaces I'm helping someone with their flat tire You know whatever it's like nothing changed. I just have more some some more resources so I can like do some different things or I have access to Great podcast like this, you know or get to hang out with like really cool people But in general, I just like being a person and hopefully you know by me being patient people observing that they're like oh maybe Maybe I can incorporate a little bit of the problem as you do open up the door for grifters Like there's a lot of people that have got my phone number. I should have got my phone number Oh really you mean like get things from me and trying to get me to do things for the course of course get people to do this and that Can you connect me with this person?

55:11Yeah, you block them whatever you don't block them. You don't block them You just let you like my phone number. Oh really? I have a new one. I have to give it to you. Okay good to know I Here's initially I have not changed my number since 1998 when that's a man's got singular Oh my god, but I will say this I think some of my friends who have to change their numbers I mean you're dealing with stuff like the crowds that you do you're dealing with like fighting your You're interviewing a lot of people that have all kinds of crazy different perspectives So the interest is high and so people want to have access to that for me.

55:47It's like I'm a I'm a silly guy It's a cool guy. I don't think you can't give them anything. Yeah, it's like I don't really what are they gonna? They're gonna ask me like hey, can you do my show? Right? Well, that's it it gets to the point where like like if you're a hot woman And a guy's being nice to you. Oh, you don't you don't think oh, this guy's just being nice to me Like this guy wants to have sex with me right so that's always on the table and so when someone's being nice to me I have to always go are you trying to get something? Are you just nice? Yes, and then it's a good annoying? Hey I have this business that I'd really like to talk to you about like yeah, fuck There goes I know I know I know I mean it's that way for me But it's mostly about like a show like it's always like kid you do my show right or can you do a voice on my animation thing?

56:32Oh, some of that's cool. No, that's fun. It's super cool But like I'm prepared for it, but it's less stakes than weight you're kind of talking about So I can like it at a certain level it gets super weird like I have friends that are really like post -molones really famous He changes his number all the time really I get it I get it. I mean everybody's trying to do something with that guy It's just like everyone's pulling at you everybody wants something Well, and they look at you as not just a human being but as a potential for them to step higher Dollar signs. Yeah, yeah, dollar success and also social success Yeah, you can be seen you know with that person if you you travel with that person you do things with that person it elevates your social status Oh 100 % yeah, if you're homies with post -molone and you walk into a club like you're the fucking man Yeah, to know you were with post -molone.

57:23Yeah, I'm always like When I'm with friends like on that level I'm a little bit I'm so sensitive to that dynamic that I kind of like go Yeah, I make myself so small and and it's like There's a point of it where now my psychologist is like you get or my psychiatrist psychologist She's she's like it's okay to be a little bit you can own Some of your achievements, but you know to be it because I'm like well if I do that then I'll be an asshole It's like that's not that's not true You can still be who you are some of your achievements are real It's like like if someone wants to talk to you about music and they're saying a bunch of nonsense and you're like hey Actually a musician I know I know I do love it.

58:04I'm just like cool, right? No, I cool You know what and then I kind of but what I do is I like I add information to kind of fill out their picture And then yeah, then they'll sometimes be like oh, oh yeah, yeah that and I'm like well at least I'll I'll teach you something without saying like let me teach you something The only place I have no room for that is things that are just rock solid and concrete Like where there's there's no debate about me like the earth is around those kind of things and In martial arts too, so I've get in martial arts conversations with people that have some ridiculous ideas and I have to say stop Stop this is course you're dealing with a very complex thing and you have very limited knowledge Yeah, you're talking to an actual expert.

58:48I don't like that. I don't like these conversations I don't like if you come into it with humility, but if you come into me Yeah, right you you have this fucking thing that you figured out that no one else is figured out like yeah It's less it's delusional vibes. Yeah, and that sucks Have you ever been asked to to help with fight choreography and things like for films and things like no? No, I've asked been asked to do them. Yeah, but I don't want not interested I don't like acting. Okay. I don't enjoy it. But even like coaching like a scene to make it look more realistic No, no, there's guys that do that are excellent I'm not needed you know, it's like yeah, you know someone is not a comic teaching people comedy It's a very specific skill to make it look good on camera.

59:26That's true. It's different than actual Yeah, it's angles and like there's certain that like Contact like there's certain things you actually have to make contact with a person in order for it to be realistic You have to be really good at that true and you have to be good at pulling shots. Oh, yeah, God That's it. I think yeah, I imagine yeah, yeah, you have to hit people and not hurt them and that's a real issue with like that There was always stories about certain action stars that would do fight scenes and hurt the stunt people on purpose and stunt guys Would be fucking furious. Oh my god. This guy would actually hit them on purpose and you knew he was doing it and it did make the scenes look realistic But that was not what they had prepared right you know, it's all about Expectations because it's like they're someone's getting free shots on you.

1:00:11Yeah. Oh, by the way, I wrote a book What's your book about? Fight for that was like I should slip that in a little bit. It is about fight choreography That's why it's well, it took a long time, but I was steering us in that direction No, it's just called great falls Montana and so it's autobiography about me growing up. Oh nice And how long did it take the right that is that a pandemic project this pandemic project? Yeah nice you're gonna have you're in almost two years Oh, there it is there she is Look at that out of control throw Sun. Oh no on no fast times poke post punk weirdos a tale of coming home again Reggie Watts nice did you do an audio for it?

1:00:50I did yeah, I kind of didn't want to Oh, so so lazy. Oh come on, but I now and I wanted Fred Armiston to do it. No I know I know but I have a very distinct voice that someone's reading your life story with a different voice Oh, it's I thought it would just be like weird, but yes, you're right. You're right. It'll be weird, but it wouldn't be good People like it's just a good weird. I was like no, but guys doesn't it funny like no I had P. We hermen do my voice like what oh, it's like now. It's a heart. We just want to hear you Yeah, now, but it's it's just like I don't know. I mean I wanted to do I I wasn't interested in ever making a book, but then I was like in a biography That sounds a little bit easier because then I'm just telling stories.

1:01:32Yeah, and it's about my high school times Which as you know like the 80s were crazy time and we did crazy stuff and I don't know. It's just it was it was fun fun to like just show like this is how I am today. This is where this is why I love a good autobiography. Yeah, I mean hope it's good a good interesting honest one It's a fact. It's fascinating to listen to how people grew up and what they think and how they developed their thought process and Yeah, cuz it's like I don't know for me It's I mean if you think about like all the components is like well, okay. I've got white French mother from France you know, I forget American father from Cleveland, Ohio and You know they meet in Europe they you know we move around Europe and then I grow up in great falls Montana as this biracial Weirdo kind of strange kid, you know Compared to the rest of the populace and then just navigating that but then also getting the fortune of it being in the 80s.

1:02:29It's I don't know. It's like I think like a lot of people some people have read some friends have read it and they're like Like Anson mountain is raining right now and like Anson seems like that. He's the he's the captain of the enterprise He's got he's the new one. He's a no that exists. It's Sorry strange new worlds Star Trek strange new worlds. Oh, you're a trackie. I Am a science fiction lover. I do love Star Trek because I watched with my dad. I love it. I love it But I love all I love it all But yes, I I just the new ones really got me because it does capture the spirit of the old because it's it's just before The original series Which I before yeah before so it's Captain Pike so that's Anson right there and this is on what how do you Some pair of men this paramount things paramount plus it's good It to me I was like worried about it because voyages like great hair.

1:03:23It's it's Anson's awesome Anson's like He plays the part in this really Great way like he's like the guy that you would want to tell all your problems too, you know on the show and He's a great actor and he's always been really cool with me, but He's done a lot of stuff, but this was the this is the one finally. This is a role that like do they have the internet on the new Star Trek shows? You oh is there is there an internet? What do you mean? Yeah, do you have internet like can they Google things? I think they you of course they have the ship's computer, right? It's like artificial intelligence.

1:03:57I don't know they never actually never hear about that well We do hear about that, but on this show. No, it's just like you know, he sent emails I think it's so I think it's all done because they're just like communicating isn't it funny that they never even thought of a phone That would work from space. They used they thought of as a walkie -talkie. Kirk out. I know I like Yeah, yeah, he had a talk and then you had a way for the other person to talk and I know he talking It's like hello over hello over, but I mean it's like when it came up in the 60s or whatever But the new one actually there's a joke about it because a guy from the future comes into them and he's he's from the Federation So he's got the thing that you just hit the badge and they're like we've analyzed it and apparently it's a communicator and then Anson's character is just like yeah, but flipping open the thing.

1:04:38That's that's the funnest part of the best part That's like that's it's talking on a walkie -talkie to your friend when she's not on ketamine. Oh my god With the rambling. Oh my god. Well, you have to over never comes. There's just over with never Are you kidding? You'd miss like I don't know how much you've missed you'd miss a lot And if you had to tell her something like really important as a monster headed your way like you wouldn't be able to get to it Could you be like today was like okay, I feel I don't Maybe what's that I'm not sure if There's a monster In your neighborhood It's like no, there's a thing you got to get out of there and they're just like yeah, but all of reality is made of Particles so those particles are the essence of perception.

1:05:29I mean Got it good no, I've done some functional things on K before which were Functions well things are supposed to be functional for what I think the first time I did a law's and she was a 200 milligram Laws and and except prescription for it What is the prescription for what does the doctor say when they write that prescription he likes to get high? It's like it's like he really is into he's a psycho not I don't know no, I mean it was it's kind of like it's for therapeutic reasons But you can like it's a friend of a friend So I was like well, let me experience this because I want to know what this what is this like?

1:06:01But I took the I took an idea of livestream and it was during the pandemic and I didn't know how I was gonna get but I just Set up the equipment. I had the problems all the bunch of stuff and they totally did it successfully No one knew that I was high and that that's that that's my secret I will say it's the one strength I have on psychedelics. I can always do an impression of a non -high me Unless like my eyes are crazy, but generally people are like I didn't know you were high It's like no, no, I was completely peaking on acid And they're like that's impossible. I'm like no, it's like it's something I actually like to practice because it's it's fun practice normal See yeah, like I'll do it like oftentimes with my friends are like we're like all really high on K or something like that Like guys, I'm gonna do an impression this is my favorite thing I'm gonna do an impression of a normal person and so I'll like get up and go like oh man I forgot to do this thing.

1:06:51Oh shit. Hey when you get a chance can you call so and so whatever and then like go over it Like wash my hands and like you know just do normal person stuff Yeah, and there's something about like Trying to find your center in the middle of a storm that I feel is kind of like It's like strapping on weights on your ankle or wearing a weighted vest in training. It's like it's a way of like Kind of challenging yourself to the point at which you Hopefully make a goal by like achieving something. Yeah, but I don't know that's what Well, it's also you're comfortable with that state You know for someone who's never experienced that at that state before it becomes overwhelming and then you kind of like Give in to the anxiety the moment and you're that's a thing about bad trips, right?

1:07:35Yeah, a lot of it is people fighting it struggling with the trip and not wanting to accept totally not wanting to let go and give in Totally, it's a big factor totally. I mean I get it and that's why generally it's hard for me to find people that are just down You know like if I'm like hey do you want to do okay whenever I see ketamine feels like it's I'm saying like the heaviest thing in the world because Either people are like it's horse tranquilizers It's K hole which is thought of as negative or they're thinking of like party vibes like we're just like doing bumps You're like I'm dancing. He's a bump and bump.

1:08:08It's like generally when I do K I fucking do K like I want to I want to be in there I want to like get in there and so when people come around or like that's all I know about it I'm like you know what come over to my house. I don't even people have come I should be a coach or something people come over to my house all the time. They're like I don't know man I don't know. I'm like trust me. I'm really get a dosing. That's always made my line But it's true people will be like oh it was just like you said that was great I was like I guarantee you'll ask me for another bump and then I'll be like no There's no and then like oh can I have another bump?

1:08:37I was like I told you it's a great It's all about set and setting and I like that fun. So but anyways I someone went into a K hole at my club the other night. No. Yeah, some lady was In the audience. Yeah boy. I think I mean yeah, they have a getter assistance. Oh the good thing is it's over in 20 minutes There's a lot of that out here. I heard the nasal spray. That's what I heard the nasal spray thing. Yeah I Recreation that I heard it was like kind of Your engineer was saying that it was like a kind of a Tech bro thing which I'm like well, I would call Jamie a producer. Well, then okay, I apologize.

1:09:14I was deeply Poges, but I produce now. Okay, okay God you got you. Um, yeah, it's a One K because it's just the connotations the negative connotations. Yeah, and also where people do it It's like don't do it at a comedy club. I was like like why would you don't do that much or do yeah the thing about those nasal sprays Is no one can stop you I know just fucking two hammering that thing. It's too It's too convenient next thing you know your your hand is a metallic claw and you're in another dimension Oh my god, man, the safety there's nothing that feels more unsafe that when you're like really high on K and you're in an Extremely public place.

1:09:54It is It's quite the challenge. I usually just tell people I just tell them just so they know They're like hey, man. I'm like I'm really high right now on K and usually people are like oh, okay Yeah, I've never done it like that. I've only tried it a little bit. Yeah, I've tried the therapeutic dose Oh, okay, I was kind of interesting. Yeah, but too many people I know are too into it and I'm like that just seems Fraught with peril. Yeah, there's definitely addiction problems. I tend to not have issues with that I'm saying that I have food. I'm addicted to food, but I'm not like if like if I go on a tour and I don't have access to anything That I normally have access because I don't drink I just basically do you know these feel free's and like Weed is definitely my constant, you know, especially edibles and and then K That's kind of it at this point in my life But if I go on tour and I don't have access to any of that I don't really notice right could be weeks and I'm like That's fortunate.

1:10:54Yeah, I feel very I mean you're not using it to cover something up probably yeah Well, I'm not using it to hide. No, I'm using it to experience. Yeah, I want to I want to explore Yeah, and there's nothing I've had like the I've had crazy shit happen where I was at a cool party and This person it converted a room to make it look like the rainforest like a Brazilian rainforest and it had like Dolby 5 .1 storm sounds and associated lighting the lighting would change and stuff like that and so In this dope room and there's like people on all kinds of things But I was like really high I took a had a couple bumps and then I had a 200 milligram laws and I was with a friend of mine mason and We just I sat cross -legged and I put my hands like this and I just I became a statue I just when you say bumps are you saying you're sniffing it?

1:11:42Yeah, yeah, yeah, sniffing it. Yeah, so yeah So like just like you know a couple you know three bumps or whatever you know whatever coke the coke Very and if you know coke what a bump is it's about the same for I mean But I had one of those and we had the laws and the laws and kicked in and we went deep into a K hole Interesting thing was There was a guy he's probably like 20 feet away. This is people talking all over the place storm systems all the stuff I hear this little voice like through the storm and like in the distance kind like hey if anybody's out there I'm just I'm having a crazy trip right now and I Responded I'm pretty sure this is real I responded in the quietest voice I was like now I can totally hear you.

1:12:23What's what's going on? We started having a conversation back and forth and mason can attest to it because he heard me talking He's like who are you talking who were you talking to I was like I was talking that guy over there and It was a real conversation. I was like how is this possible? How can I be having this super quiet conversation? It's almost like quantum tunneling or something like that with this person and that's happened more than once and where it's almost I don't say telepathy that's it's not it's not It's not too heavy, but I think that it is possible I mean they're they are producing sound but maybe the brain is able to Completely like noise cancelling just take out all of the the noise and focus on that voice I've had weird telepathic stuff on it.

1:13:06That's why I'm interested in like doing more research in different states and seeing What results you know when they first discovered harming they They tried to call it telepathy Really? Yeah, what is that? Well harming is a MOA inhibitor that's a part of I waska and oh many other There was one that we talked about yesterday that Brian Murr rescue brought up that was It was a harming. What was it with Jamie? It was a lotus flower, right? That's what it was right That the ancient Egyptians used It's an MO inhibitor so it it stops mono amine oxidase in the gut and that's what makes Dimethyl trip to mean orally active oh right and so harming when they first when so when they first Experience these altered states they were trying to isolate the compounds that were Responsible for it and one of them they decided was causing these telepathic Experiences and so they tried to call it telepathy Well, but because of scientific nomenclature that had already been it had already been discovered as harming So they'd already been labeled as harming so they kept it as harming But for a while they were calling it telepathy Because the people that were experiencing that were having these Communications without words and they were experiencing things In unison together they were experiencing These visions that they felt like they were communicating with each other through this vision without without talking I mean, I completely believe it.

1:14:42I mean I've I've just I've had too many incredible experiences on those types of especially dissociatives I mean this is a different substance that we're talking about but I've had Experiences where you're I don't know what it is like I've done crazy stuff where I don't have the greatest needs and and so I'm always You know try I'm careful of it. I'm on ketamine and suddenly I'm like on the ground doing that duck walk or whatever No problem. You don't have the greatest needs in what way Just not hot no I like hot knees guys that's sexy. They're not sexy now maybe get them tattooed. Yeah, that's true I'll just get the I'll get a huge band around each one.

1:15:20No, it's just like on each one of them or something I have a low cartilage on the back of each kneecap so from so there's rub It's just I think it's just genetic like a just a genetic thing that happened I also I'm not need so I was I was born with like not the greatest like Knees and not read is how does that work? So not need you know, it's like you're kind of a knees go in Yeah, it's like you know, there's a physical therapist that can correct that with the exercises Yeah, well the the shape of the I mean that really the best thing for it if I was a kid and maybe now too is writing horses Like writing horses.

1:15:56Yeah, well you marry like you know how they always say like cow cowboys are bolegged Because they're always in the stirrups and they're pushing around Yeah, and so it makes their legs go out So when I was a kid they were like if you ride horses you can correct your knock needness Could you correct your knock needness with like a machine like one of those abductor addoctor machines? I tried that for a while. I don't think it's strong It's like you're no matter how strong your muscles get like that's such a structural thing to actually change You should talk to somebody that's an expert in that I was there's some people that I've said that like pigeon toad people Yeah, you can unlearn that for sure Pigeon toad is like that's a little bit more correctable I for sure because that's that's orientation.

1:16:36That's like a conscious orientation strengthening the right muscles I think with the knee. I don't know the knees just feel more like it's like a joint It's like if you had a joint and you bent it. It's like the joints bent, but now you got to bend it back Right, but what are you doing to fix that is what I'm asking? I'm just complaining No, I Not not a lot other than Trying to make sure that my feet are in line Oh, I'm doing a lot of Asian squats So I'll say or like a deep squat look when you sit really deep in a squat So I'll do that for about two minutes and I do it randomly I'll be at a grocery store waiting in line.

1:17:15I'll just like get down and that helps my knee Is it feels pretty good. It feels like it's kind of aligning something the more I do that but You should probably do Hindu squats What do you know Hindu squats are it's a great way to develop your leg muscles and strengthen your knees Oh, it's a squat where when you go it's an air squat you just do it with your body weight Yeah, when you go down you put your hands behind you and you raise your heels up off the ground You touch your your fingertips to the ground And then as you go up your feet go down and you raise your arms in front of you and so you breathe in Like this like that.

1:17:54I do See those oh that's sick those are phenomenal. Wow. I do 100 of those every day Wow now now that's something I'm because like as I grow older My whole thing is mobility and strength and And so yeah, I mean I do those and I also like to do it on a slant board a slant board is nice to Which direction it forces your heels up at a 45 degree angle Yeah, and then because of that it like it really strengthens the muscles that Supportive muscles of your knee. Yeah, and it's a really good exercise for knee strengthening That's that's that's I do a lot of knee strengthening stuff a lot of it I do it every day because I've had three knee surgeries and martial arts and so little kids.

1:18:43Yeah, I have a bunch of knee issues I got you. Yeah, I'm yeah, I would try any of that. Yeah, you have to do something. I can help you I would love that. Yeah, there's a great guy out there So he's got an Instagram page called knees over toes guy and he takes people from step one Like would very little knee stability and strength and he's got a multi -stage Program where you slowly keep adding Adding more exercises adding more resistance and strengthen the structure around your knee because a lot of the problems that people have Is the knee is not supported well by the musculature by your tenons and ligaments and muscles.

1:19:20It's not it's not supported Well, it's not strong enough. So it's unstable and so it twists and moves Yeah, and and there's a lot of injuries that people have specifically because of that I've made my knees much stronger since I've started this program man I got it I got to do that. That's like the one probably the area that I think about the most like I don't have a flexibility I've pretty good flexibility like I all the stuff is good I'm in like mobility. I can still I have a lot of mobility. I just my knees have always been the thing But the last time really why I stopped working out I was doing I was training all the time getting jacked I was getting pretty jacked.

1:19:55I need to get re jacked but But I was doing a leg press and I think my feet were a little bit too low on the on the plate So I put too much pressure on my right knee and and just something it wasn't like a Major or anything that but there was like just it didn't quite feel right after a certain press I would not recommend leg presses. Yeah, like what like I mean if you're a bodybuilder and like extensions Those are bad too. Well, they're not necessarily bad. Yeah, but it's just like what there's ways to strengthen your knees that aren't so problematic and You know, I don't lift heavy weights. I don't nothing I lift high reps.

1:20:34Yeah, well the heaviest weight I lift is 70 pounds. Okay, it's kettlebells. Oh, yeah, 70 pound kettlebells the heaviest thing I pick out other than my own body weight Cop of the vast majority of the stuff that I do is body weight and you can do some pretty You know a lot you do a lot and you can really strengthen your legs with body weight exercises And but I also do lunges with dumbbells and things like that. I do a lot of different things but Leg presses There's so many videos of people hyperxting their leg the wrong way with their their ego lifting Mm -hmm They have like a giant stack and then they lock their legs out and pops back that way and they're screaming and agony And their knees destroyed.

1:21:12I've seen so many of those online That's something about my Instagram search algorithm Keeps reminding you. Oh, remember this. I mean so many of those gym fail things where people are squatting too much and the legs explode I can't I can't I can't do that. I mean I'm not trying to be a bodybuilder so get off those things. Yeah, I mean for me It's like at this point like I wanted to get jacked specifically for a thing I was doing but like now I'm more about I Just want to become like mobile and strong and and that's it That's on my and however that looks that's that's how it looks. Yeah, that's all I do I don't do anything for aesthetics not one single thing.

1:21:51So it's all functional all of it's functional and all of it is It's either bodyweight exercises like chin ups dips pushups bodyweight squats Pull ups. It's either those things or it's kettlebells So all those things they make you use your body as one thing You know your your body has to it's not an isolation exercise which is yeah, I mean I just don't think that it's that's not It's not for me. I want something that helps my body do martial arts better helps my body function better Yeah, I don't fuck around with any I mean It's not I'm not like shitting on them if you want to get bigger and you want to look like a bodybuilder Yeah, there's a really clear way to do it those guys do it But that's not what I'm interested in yeah now I get that that's well.

1:22:37Yeah, it's my next phase I'm kind of moving it like because like last year my mother died and like all the You know post pandemic like I just like had a lot of stuff and it's like and that injury happened I was like oh man, and so I got kind of you know just Pudgy and now I feel like probably the weakest I felt a long time Did you have a trainer before I did but it was so expensive and now that I'm done with the late late show I have to watch my money a little bit until the next thing comes along, but like I mean I'm doing oak I'm doing fine, but I do have to but that's actually I don't know and I must be worth going Bankrupt for that because it's like I'd rather be have I want my health, you know my health is the important thing for me in my life And I start working these these guys called they call bio coach I don't know if you've heard of those guys know bio coach So they deal with like metabolic health and so I was working with them that they've given me a free couple free months about it But the biggest thing really is about you know, I get like one of these CGMs continuous glucose monitor Things and keep my glucose levels in a certain level and that's helped my energy a lot So I'm not doing any sugar and That's good.

1:23:42Oh, there you go. And that's step one for everybody huge and me inflammation my knees have gone down of course So those things cause inflammation. I know it's it's crazy to me and I know that like some people like I got to have my sugar And I have you know, it's like but you don't you don't you don't and you can once in a while It's fine, but like you know get the motor running. I give myself a day Maybe once a week or every two weeks or just eat some bullshit. Yeah, and I always go I know and it feels that was that yeah, but I give myself that day if I feel tired if I come out like I like to do it like late Night if I come home from the club.

1:24:16I see and it's like one o 'clock in the morning. I'm hungry. I'm like fuck it Yeah, you're gonna work out in the morning. Yeah fuck around. Yeah, I always feeling I know it's but it never it never feels great. I give myself a little mouth pleasure I mean come on myself a little fun. You gotta do what you gotta do and you got a little cake a little cookie A little something a little cookie. I you know, it's now when I see like when you've been on that for a while and you haven't been you know Basically keto, but like When you've been doing that a while now when I see a snack tray or like you know, I'm backstage And there's all these chips and stuff like that.

1:24:48I'm not even remotely interested in it. That's great It's crazy. That's also your gut biome. You got you know, if you if you eat a lot of sugar Oh, man a lot of carbs like your your body wants that like give me some of that. I know. Yeah What's the Paris it becomes a parasite? It's a parasitic thinking and that's like what I noticed for me like when I'd be at home and now What I need to do is I need to get out of my I should work out and then like I go on the phone and it's like Oh, it's too late to work out now because I got this thing so I guess I better just do I'll work out later It never happens.

1:25:18Yeah, but the one thing I will say that's really helped me is it's dancing Well, that's working out that's that's that's my like because I love the dance you know dance dance revolution made a lot of people lose weight That's right, right? Yeah, I mean a lot of people lost weight that's because it's a game Yeah, it's playing a fun game that you get addicted to that actually makes you move your body and burn a lot of calories man I love it because isolated workouts like it's cool I can do treadmill like treadmill I can walk for an hour and just like in a 10 % incline whatever three miles per hour I'll just like watch stuff on on YouTube and I don't even notice and I feel great I feel so good and like walking a lot is great But my ultimate if I'm gonna do an isolated is hiking Oh, hiking's great steep grade hiking.

1:26:04I don't know what happens to my brain But I'm just like like I'm just like I gotta get up that hill and natural something Well, it's natural for human beings is a natural thing to do yeah, and also you're outside Hopefully of good scenery nice. It fulfills you and all sorts of different ways. Yeah, I don't know I'm just yeah right now in my life. I'm like okay post lately at show. What do I got going on? I got this book I got You know some other things in the works and things I'm pitching but mostly I'm just about I want to do the stuff that I want to do and feel good about it Enjoy your life.

1:26:40I'm gonna join my life I'm going to Berlin for a couple months just to go there and like produce music and Porsche always hooks me up with a car when I'm there and I'm like the Autobahn I just did my first track day. Did you with like a real instructor? Oh sick. Isn't that fun? Oh my god. It was amazing What were you in I was in my cars? Oh, I took my four all of them I brought two okay. I brought my four GT and I brought my GT3 RS whoa Yeah, you have it GT3 RS. Yeah, I have a 2007 Okay, oh my god. Oh my god. It's so fast and so light That one was hard to handle that one like boy you feel really feel the difference between you remember all that damn force Yeah, the rear well the 2007's don't have the same kind of downforce as the 2023 2023 has this massive wings Yeah insane downforce and incredible car.

1:27:29I did drive a modern 2023 GT3 around the track as well that they had there. Oh, how was it much easier to handle the my car my car is a wild bitch It's so light and it doesn't have any nanny stuff to it. There's no traction control no nothing It's a car full on track car that you can drive in the street It's really fun, but god the four GT was a magic. I have a 2005 four GT Wow, and that thing is incredible. It just hugs the road It wants you to like bend into the corners. It's got massive tires Yeah, giant engine right behind you that's supercharged. Yeah, it sounds incredible Low wide low and wide.

1:28:09Yeah, oh my god, man. I'm telling you know the 2005 look like right? Yeah, I think so this at the when did the when did the new GT's come out was the first model years 2003? Well the first one was the GT 40 that was a car that they use that's that movie Ferrari versus Ford. Oh wait, but that was yeah There's a now any add the bubble top right when I went in the race for that guy's head or whatever Some stuff this to Jamie so you can see mine Yeah, oh, yeah, I'm serious. It's the one that I had they came out with it again and like the early 2000s I think to use some four or five and then there's a new one that they just came out with that's just all paddle shifts Mine's a man.

1:28:48Oh, oh wow, okay, mine is still a manual But going around a track with an instructor you realize why paddle shifters the way to go. Oh man in the on the street I really that's my car. Oh, it's gorgeous man. Oh Spiders nice that is a clean machine. Oh my god. It's so low and so wide and it handles so well It's just like when you go in around the corner. It's like it just like it feels like this is what I want to do Like it tells you like yes But so we like this has got that 60s vibe to it. That's like things so sweet such a good looking car I'm like man. I am so stoked on like as because I have it I have Portia Tykon Turbo S and I have a Amazing that thing is it's it's it's amazing.

1:29:35It's like it's like I mean there's faster cars you got the plaid You got the fucking barely faster. Yeah, if you find out that it's faster you're a fucking asshole I know like you have to be so crazy to take that Tycan Turbo S and try to compare it I just remember like going up the you know the Angeles National Force. Oh, yeah, you know, Angeles crest So going up to the crest because there's that Friday meetup that happens was a good vibes breakfast club Jay Ryan and his wife they they started it But so we always meet up there every Friday morning and that drive up there Especially if there's like no one ahead of you and you get those nice long stretches occur There was a motorcycle we went up the back way Motorcycles behind me and he thought he was just gonna Decimate me or whatever and And he was and I was like in front of him and then he was just gone and he was like I can't believe you you lost me.

1:30:30I've never been able to lose somebody is like on some super bike like crazy And he's a really experienced rider. He's like you just disappear He's like and you were staying between the yellow you were staying in your lane the whole time Yeah, and I was like yeah the Tykon I I've like I like because I have also 911 Turbo S 2022 so I have both those damn the turbo S is a nasty monster and but it's more analog You know, it's got like a it grips feels like a mountain goat the Tykon is like It's just like it's a spaceship. Yeah, and and and it's all about weight management because it's so heavy So also the weight is on the bottom.

1:31:06It's all with the batteries are yeah, the weight distribution is amazing It's crazy, but it feels like a snowboard. I never snowboard, but it feels like a snowboarding really because it's like I'm taking this corner. So it feels more like this This as opposed to a 911 is more like it's like it's It's like magnetically held to the ground and it's just it feels like it's crouching when it's going into a corner And so it's a it's a different experience. It's a little lighter Rear steer is amazing, but the Tykon is just I am so I'm looking forward to You know a lighter Tyk they can make a Tykon that's a third less weight I'd almost I'd take 80 miles of range to have a lighter Tykon well if they had a two door if they come over the two door Ty can and make a size of a 911 the Cayman's coming the electric Cayman or real yeah That's gonna be insane.

1:31:54Yeah, all right. Am I am is that right? Yeah, the 718 that's Cayman, right? Yeah, yeah Yeah, so that's that's gonna come out either 2024 or 2025, but I also heard that the new McCahn electric which won't be called the McCahn electric because I think they're just calling it the McCahn that everyone's saying like that's that's the joint I don't think it's gonna perform as well as a lower car, but right well the X is a pretty fucking amazing car Yeah, the Tesla X. Yeah, Jamie had one of those for a while. Yeah, yeah, that's really that egg wagon It's like it's too. They think doesn't tip over okay That thing literally doesn't tip over you get nailed if somebody T -bones you it doesn't tip over right because all the weights at the bottom Yeah, it's just like we're boom.

1:32:34It's like lands back on its side man, so the handling of those things because the weight is all in the bottom Yeah, it's like almost yeah most of it. I mean, you know, but then it comes in but then you get Porsche and then when you're in a port when you look at this Porsche it always comes back It's the shape of it. Oh, that's the moose the moose test. What is that? That's not doing well to Kia Those things handle that I bet yeah, but it's funny like I've driven you know modern Tessels I've driven an X a Y a three performance But then you get into like if you drive a Say an S right like just like not even the non -plat or even a plate You driving it.

1:33:14Well, this thing's fast. It's crazy, right? And you just jump immediately into a Tycoon the driving feel is Night and day it's insane how different it is. Well, they're Tycans of Porsche. Yeah, I know their ergonomics are impeccable the interior's It's perfect. It's just it's like and I love it and they've been so good to me They've been really cool. They've been by to me to all kinds of stuff They've like took me to Goodwood Super appreciative of those guys. They're really cool. They know how much passion I have about their cars And I'm so excited about their electric stuff But I and it's hard to go to another car like I was thinking about lucid for a while That that new sapphire that's coming out that's like the fastest thing on the planet really?

1:33:55I haven't seen anything about that. I haven't seen that only a lucid sapphire Three motor 1100 horsepower or 1100 something something it's like this cheeky number and it is zero to 61 .86 seconds They're they're they're claim there this their claim is that it's basically all the performance It's 90 % of the performance of a remot's nivera For a tenth of the price Wow, look at that thing that looks amazing and that's all California made California designed California manufactured Seats are great. Tear looks nice. Yeah, look at that that screen in the middle folds up. How reliable are these? I don't know see that's the thing about the Tesla is very reliable But this is an electric car.

1:34:38So you know, he's talking about three electric motors Dr. Mirro and this this company lucid how long they've been around for they've been around for I'm gonna say like Five or six years and like that. It's the former one of the executives from Tesla. It's his company Oh, and and the people that did the handling their load X Lotus engineers it's insane. Yeah, and my My friend Johnny Lieberman who's the one. Yeah, so Johnny I kept going like but I don't know the tycon's coming out with a three motor tycon You know it's soon or whatever he's like the sapphire. I was like are you sure he's like no the sapphire is the one I'm like, okay, okay, so I haven't driven that but I look sir I can't imagine like you know see some more images of the outside of it jamming it's it's a sexy car man I I mean it used to be two -tone so the upper part was like this silver Then they created this stealth paint job, which now it looks like a great car before where do you get one though?

1:35:42Do you have to get it online? No, they have dealers have dealers they have they have dealers. I don't I know I'd be interested in here the sapphire Like the the air 100 doors power. Yeah, geez Louis. It's a it's a nasty piece of machinery. It's it's really really Dope it's a cool piece, but I tried I called them I had a meeting with them and I was like what do you think about doing like a PR you know thing where like I hand over my tycon which I'll say the tycon's probably slightly better looking that's a good looking car But the tycon is a little bit better looking tycon's better looking I have it in a coffee beige Which gets all the attention everyone's always like oh my god.

1:36:25What's that color? What's that color? Let me see that pull up coffee beige Tycon turbo. Yeah, I want to see what that looks like. That's my I love that that color when I got it I was like I don't know I was going I want to go for chalk, but then like coffee beige seemed warmer and And Yeah, it's There we go. Yeah, that's mine right there in the far the far left that's that's what it looks like Oh, that's nice. That's a better looking car It's got like and it's got the 911 roof line. Although my crumb I don't have crumb it's all blacked out But but I have the same wheels and then he doesn't have the carbon fiber or sorry to carbon fiber carbon So it's a great that's beautiful car.

1:37:06It's a it's a better looking and it's all 20 it's 20 % I got 20 tents on the Anyways point is I'm just excited. I think Porsche Between their e -fuel that they're investing in so you can like keep running their cars at an ecological balance, you know because they're making us out of Chile they They I don't know how much if they can scale it But they are running e -fuel for the rest for the races So like sports like the Porsche cups and stuff like that. What is e -fuel? So e -fuel is it uses its process it uses captured carbon With some kind of a chemical process that produces a combustible Or yeah combustible fuel combustion fuel.

1:37:44I guess that's how you say And so you can just replace it. It's a direct any car can use it. It's just fuel But the way it's produced is zero uses zero emissions So it's still combusts and I think it combusts is a lower there's less carbon that's created when it combusts and the process of making it is zero so it becomes a ecological fuel so they call it e -fuel and they of course they invested in that because they want to keep making combustion Yeah, engines well There's something about the sound of a combustion engine of course Impossible to replicate and when they try to do it like fake it.

1:38:20It's so gross I don't I don't like the fake shit I will say that the taikon their sports sound that comes on It's like yeah, it's like you can turn it on or when you go into sport mode it turns on all it is is an amplified version There are microphones that are picking up the sound of the motors as far as I understand it I could be wrong that but I think that's how it was explained to me and it just amplifies with some extra tonalities So it gives it a little bit of a Like it almost sounds like gear shifts which is kind of weird But for me what it sounds like see if you have a taikon sound Let's see Well, that's gonna be That's it that's the sounds here that low -end that kicks in That sounds dope They tried to patent it recently in Europe they wouldn't let him So those are all sounds fucking it's it's it's sick man that sounds sick I mean, oh my god, it's amazing.

1:39:21I maybe because we want to be in it right now, but like That sounds fucking dope So it's just it's an augmented sound that the car actually makes the motors actually make that sound I hear's interior Are they in Poland dude that sounds dope And I like it because you feel that low -end rumble as you're driving So it does give you it gives you information like when I'm driving I Feel I feel the car Because otherwise if it's totally silent, it's weird It doesn't feel right Well, it does sound weird when I drive my car my testless. Oh, yeah, you got a flat. That's your zone or no that wasn't used as Jamie's yeah, Jamie's Yeah, I have one of those yeah silent.

1:40:04Yeah, which is like It's it's all right, but I don't mind it if the if the sound is just an augmentation of what the motor sound right Then I'm into it, especially when you got a three motor going on right and that sounds like a cool spaceship type of electric car And then I'm like because I feel like I could confidently like I when I drive an electric car I like both I mean the the turbo s is amazing to drive Even though I do feel a little bit bad So just like yeah, it's producing carbon Which is and I know that sports cars account for very very little because it's a very very small market But I still kind of feel a little bit and then when I try the type on I'm just like this thing is just it's like I feel fully free in a way One of the things that Jeremy Clarkson pointed out when he did a review of the turbo Is that the way the turbo filters the air the air coming out of the exhaust is actually cleaner than the pollution air That's in that's in the air.

1:41:01Oh really yeah See you find out the particular filters when you're in a polluted city Like if you're in a place like Los Angeles like downtown LA. Yeah, the exhaust from a turbo Yeah, from a turbo Porsche is actually less pollution than the actual air Yeah, I could believe that because everyone's complaining about the sound of it You can't rev it because the particulate filters are so strong because the e -regulation so people are like Oh, well, they have a rev limiter doesn't sound that good or whatever But I don't really care about that. It's like once you start going It's preposterous. I mean that's electric car performance from a combustion Exactly that's why I wanted the turbo s because I had the taicon.

1:41:41I was like I want to know what the the turbo So on the video about Jeremy Clarkson hosts of the top gear says that Porsche 911 turbo cleans the air in polluted city less like like LA While I have seen concept cars that clean there I seriously doubt that any existing car especially the Porsche 911 turbo emits exhaust that is cleaner than air Even air in the most polluted cities Here's exactly what Clarkson says when you drive this car through a really polluted city Los Angeles, Calcutta Harrogate wherever that is something like that the gas comes out of the exhaust pipe is less toxic than the air going into the engine And I'm not joking.

1:42:16That's true. This is like a small efficient easy to use vacuum cleaner This you called the Porsche di son. So here's the question for Sunday afternoon. What do you think is he wrong? Just man. Well, now you just made me feel a little bit better Yeah, I don't know that's true though I've heard me Clarkson has said multiple things that aren't true. Yeah I mean they famously rigged their I heard about that to show that the Tesla died on the track and it didn't die on the track I remember that that was I was like why are you doing horrible just do the shit Honestly, you're gonna run in anomalies anyways like what do you have to invent that shit?

1:42:49Well because that's a reality show So it's gross they have to create drama. Yeah, well great problems But to do that you're like tanking a business like you're I mean how many people saw that and wouldn't buy one of those cars Yeah, yeah I know and I think Elon lost in court because I think part of the show is that it's entertainment. Oh, I see I allowed to fake things I see Which is kind of fucked It's kind of it's kind of fucked well you know what it's like it's like a freedom that should exist However, there's it's to use it in that way is really poor taste and like I don't know Maybe there's some kind of a consequence to it But I think there's a consequence certainly to that business I mean how many people saw that and I bet that was a big hit on the business.

1:43:34Yeah, I remember Hey, I remember seeing that and I was like oh really? Okay, well, I don't know. I mean it's an electric car They're kind of hard to yeah I remember thinking oh well, it's must be new tack. I'll wait a while. Yeah Yeah, oh really down because right now it's fucking up, but it wasn't fucking up. No, it wasn't yeah I remember that was with the plaid right no. Oh, that was just the early on. Oh, it was the early early Tessel the one that looked like a lotus. Oh, oh, you're talking to the very first one. Oh See me to find it. That was way back. Yeah, the Roaster yeah, the original Roadster.

1:44:07I did not know that me love the new Roadster. Just like vaporware It's not gonna happen. Where's everybody's everybody's killing it. I mean the a spark owl is like coming out And that's gonna blow that you don't think it's gonna happen. I don't think sit well maybe, but I just don't I don't know So that's what the appetites there what I think I think Lotus I think I think Lotus and oh the appetites there, dude if it comes out if they make the Tesla Roadster the way that Elon showed it when they did that demo right Of course seven seconds. Yeah, he looks insane. I know. Yeah, it looks fucking cool as shit two cedar.

1:44:40Yeah, but it's gonna be the same price as a Porsche Cayman Electric Cayman, so it's like people are probably gonna choose the Porsche. We'll see. I choose the Porsche I mean the problem with Tesla's my problem with them is that they don't have buttons everything is touch I do not like that. I do not like that is one thing you would appreciate about the Lucid because the Lucid the cockpit There it is. It's a good looking car. It's so good. You can store that thing. Yeah, but it's fair like I found it on their website somehow Come on that looks dope as fuck. I mean no, it looks it looks sick. It looks like a Ferrari.

1:45:10That looks dope Looks like a like an electric Ferrari kind of smooth. Well, it looks like a Tesla sports cars when it looks like But there's no timeline for this thing. I mean the whole I think their the road map is get out the The truck first so the cyber truck is started to be delivered and people are driving apparently a friend of mine saw one in LA Wow, I do not like that truck Dude, if you see any real life. Yes, it's fucking sick. I really I do not I like to take a Rivian over that any day No, Rivians good looking Sick. It's a cutie. It's a cutie. It's like those glasses you're wearing. Yeah, yeah I'm saying that's like with the Rivians headlights look like they look stupid.

1:45:48Oh the stadium headlight. Oh no Yeah, they look good for you. Yeah, if I were them people be like Joe's trying too hard. How about the alpha wolf? What's that? That's a sick electric truck. You're gonna like that way better to cyber truck So I would truck is not useful vehicle this this this I don't think so everyone's complaining about the bed They're saying the bed's not designed in a way that's actually useful the truck users That's what I'm saying, but like truck people are like what the fuck is this for? Well, let me see what you check out the check out the alpha wolf. You're gonna love this thing who makes this It's alpha a company called alpha.

1:46:22Yeah, so this is electric. Yeah, it's a monster It's a electric picker tank. Yeah, whoa, and they just came out with a I think it's like a I don't know it's got like a Look at that. Dude that thing looks incredible. Look at that smooth piece across the front That thing looks incredible. That's that to me is like When I saw that I was like that's a No, what's the range on this fucker? I don't know. It's probably two door trucks. It's a two -seater. I'm gonna say it's probably gonna be like 200 or something So it's a two -seater. It's like an old two hundred two seventy five plus that's what the American That's not so bad.

1:46:57I mean for an adventure truck like if you want to go like an off -roading experience on the fine No, it's not good. You want to go somewhere? Well, yeah, where are you gonna go? Well, but you know I mean the thing is like battery is always going to improve But the fact that they're putting this out like look at that blue is also fast. That's so good Strong with you and you're scrolling man. She's such a fast grower Um, no, look sick. It's it's it's it looks very cool. It's just like a good looking truck and I like They're coming out with one and then who's the other one that has that it's like Two seventy -five is not much much range.

1:47:32Yeah, I mean it's as much range as my taikon gets A lot's the kind of like a median of performance vehicles That's about as much as you're gonna get right now with a battery tech that exists But the lucid doesn't the lucid isn't it supposed to be more lucid that just uh lucid's 500 plus on some on some models Yeah, no lucid on the sapphire Sapphire is gonna be less performance the tires. Yeah, tires in the amount of energy. It's got three motors What is the sapphire's range? I must say it's three hundred plus Oh my god, look at that. There's a new models of just super wolf. What's the super that's their new shit there you go check that out man That so it really is an adventure vehicle.

1:48:19Yeah, solar panels. Yeah, probably doesn't do much I didn't know how it helped with like systems. Yeah, you could like keep running camping shit and stuff like that Look at that doorless Last wait, they're like also this was a four door version of it. Yeah, super wolf is a four door. Yeah It's it's like it's sick. They're they're they're wonder they're wonder watch for Yeah, look sick. It's got suicide doors in the back Oh look at tent wow connects to it. That is so cool. Plus like with the solar you just run you all your tent stuff You know whatever yeah while you're while you're way I really 250 to 75 same range.

1:49:02Yeah 5 .9 seconds zero to 60 Yeah, it's low shit though. Yeah, but you know It's not everything can't be perfect. Oh stop. What do you sell the good look? It's a good look at it's a good look at this one There's a little bit more range 300 plus Yeah, and there's that other small Electric truck who they just clean the side flares. I mean, it's so good. It just it just looks like a it's just a great look Yeah, I mean, I mean you get like more range on that. I mean, it's like over time. They'll be new in batter I mean look at how clean that it looks like an old school. It's got that old school You know 80s truck look 80s 90s.

1:49:42Yeah, cuz I like trucks. It look like trucks. Yeah, that's sick The truck Michael J Fox wanted it. Yeah, that's exactly right Yeah, they ever re -did because they're only you're gonna need to redo like back to the future That's the truck that's gonna show up now show me a cyber truck Casey DeLighters I still prefer the side truck when I saw the cyber truck in person like that's the coolest thing I've ever seen It looks like I mean when it came out I was like, oh, that's a cool butts of bowl design But then like it didn't come out for a long time. Well, it took a long time to make it looks like a 70 it looks like a 70s sci -fi truck It's dope.

1:50:14I love it Small I saw in real life, and I was like this is the coolest fucking thing I've ever seen I think it's pretty dope. It's a fishers coming out of good shit, too But I'm trying to there's a there was another oh here it is this guy Teelo It's I don't think you're gonna like it, but it's it's it's it's definitely different looking But it's a small truck, but it's got the same bed length as an average truck But it's like tiny it's this little teelo thing. Oh, yeah, it's T .E. L .O That looks disgusting. Look at that Look at that now that's that's what I would rock it is tiny man and look at that approach angle nothing Yeah, you know, you'd have to see how it handles and all that stuff, but um I saw something yesterday.

1:50:57It wasn't a truck, but it was like a recreated 67 Mustang electric car. Oh, yeah I'm doing those the rest the electro restoma things that those are those are from scratch, too They're not using donor cars. That's a firm scratch. Oh really? Yeah, that's what I think it's the one that you're talking about The Mustang there's it's a recreating looks like a Mustang, but it's not it isn't a Mustang I don't know if that's what you're talking about. Yeah, I said Mustang on just at 67. Yeah Have you seen that company was it called Everradi? Yes, yeah, they're doing that with like Porsche 964s. Oh my god.

1:51:26Oh, they're making them electric. They say that they're one for one at least like steering handling and all that stuff feels feels pretty one for one Well, it must be amazing just because the batteries the low -center gravity check that that looks like a Mach 1 kind of wow Technology company that creates brand new electric cars that look like Mustangs. Yeah, what do they call it? The cars are the company charge charge, but they don't call it a Mustang. No, I think they legally can interesting But it's clearly they ripped off the Mustang that completely did But they yeah, it's a it's a from scratch spoke But I mean look at that shit.

1:52:01I mean I love that electric sort of starting to look like engines now Yeah, but I have to be honest if I want a 67 Mustang. I wanted to go Of course, of course, but yeah, I don't want a silent 67 Mustang. It's goofy How about that McMurtry spiraling remember that they're making a road car does it have sound? Can you hear what this thing sounds like I saw it on Instagram? It looks pretty dope. It's but a 67 Mustang looks dope Of course, I get I get you yeah Well, you know my thing is like if you can figure out a way to like you just take the engine out right transmission all that stuff And you just like save it right so you can swap it in and out as you as you want.

1:52:38Oh, God you can't you know I mean you can't but I'm just saying like if you figured out a way to do it. Maybe I don't know No, it doesn't matter, but have you seen the McMurtry spiraling that thing that got the good wood record It's a vacuum car. It's a fan car. So it's it's I was there at good wood when it did its legendary run I think it has I think it's got the fastest record going up good wood It sucks itself to the ground it can make up I think 10 tons of downforce and It's tiny it looks like a tiny back back mobile and it looks kind of funny because it's so fat there It is that's the good wood.

1:53:11I was right there. I was right there in the stat right that stand right there So what is a vacuum car like how exactly is that works? So whoa look at that thing. It's so fast It does here to 16 like 1 .6 seconds or something like that and it's um, it's just That thing when it look at this thing Oh my god That looks fucking amazing. They it broke every record and he got sent good driving to I mean it destroyed that run. I mean it was coming so fast down the tunnel because Porsche's stand is like Facing the launch tunnel We were there and as it came up it was coming up so fast people are like it's not gonna make that It's not gonna be a website for that Jamie.

1:53:56They have a passenger car or they have a road car coming up using the same So this is just for the track. It's a track is a track monster and Irish act think cost not not too bad It's like 1 .0 million. I mean for a car that's that fast. I mean come on my god I'm gonna piece a million dollars. Yeah, and that It's it's amazing. I got to see it up close to stop scroll The Spielbergs. How you say it? Spiraling? A Spearling. It's a Irish company. Emerge last year with a record -breaking run at Goodwill Hill Clam It uses two rear mounted fans to produce absurd amounts of downforce The car is tiny shorter than a Chevrolet spark and weighs less than 225 pounds So you get the Spearling produces 999 horsepower.

1:54:46Holy fuck Yeah, they talk about like this is just an Irish ado that made a lot of money. I forget he's a billionaire He made a lot of millions and he was just like I want to make This car and he just did it. Oh my god. It's so good. What does that do in the Nürburgring? I mean, I wonder if they've done it yet. How do they not? You have to because I look at good that looks Oh my god. Oh my god. That looks so good. That's the that's the road car. That's gorgeous That's what they're yeah, and it's not gonna come out. I don't know. I'm gonna say like in the next two years You get achieved three years Well, you know my Gunther works can do three j's really yeah I mean That's shit.

1:55:26That's a nasty car. I want some it's a full carbon fiber air cooled 1995 Porsche. I want to see it. I'm so fun. It's the routiest car. I'm so routies. I'm gonna come out Just to see that car. It's so analog. I would have brought it today. But it's raining Yeah, it can replenish the battery 20 minutes. Not too bad. Wow I didn't say how long it goes though. I can't even I mean What's what's the battery pack? It's a 60 kilowatt and plus the weight I bet you anything you could get I mean with the path the road car You're probably gonna get like 200 over. Yeah, I think because it's so light That's like the lightest sports car, you know Looks incredible.

1:56:11Yeah, I'm like mercury spearling. I was I was fascinated with it I didn't even know it was gonna be a good way to when it came out I was like am I watching a cartoon it like made everyone was laughing because it's looks like a cartoon when it's moving Because you're like it's coming at you and they just goes like a tron car like a fucking tron car It's that kind of downforce the handling and saying fucking incredible. You're not going anywhere And it's got redundant systems. So like it like some people are like what if the fans went out but the two independent fan systems and And there's these like redundant so you get one and still produces enough down force It wouldn't like let you go on a corner How do the fans work?

1:56:49How does that work? It's basically just like it's a vacuum cleaner Just creates a vacuum under the car. So are the fans exposed in the rear like where are the fans? They're they're internal into the body and then there's these these ducts out the back where it channels Wow, and it just sucks you into the ground. It just sucks you into the ground. Yeah, fucking car man. It's god damn that's good I saw a car reviewer. He's like the tall dude that British guy that does like all the car reviews I forget his name, but he got to do a zero to 60 run just a straight line He couldn't talk Like and it was he wasn't joking.

1:57:24He couldn't talk after the run. He he he was crying And he couldn't talk I was like and he was like I just I need a I need moment Wow like that moment in Ford versus for our you know where the guys like I never knew I didn't where he takes the the exact for that crazy run and then he's like he's crying And he's like I never knew it's like I know that feeling because that's a real thing that happens and people might think it's stupid It's a car, but it's like that GT 40 is even smaller than my GT My Ford GT the original GT Ford. Oh, right. Very small car. It's very small And now people are taking those and they're adding insane Thousand horsepower engines to them and they're doing these retro Like resto mods.

1:58:09Yeah on the Ford GT 40 some of them are incredible Because it's such an analog car. It's you know design. It's a real race car. It's got a plexiglass side window. It doesn't even roll down I love that shit. Yeah, I love it. I love life Yeah, you know, it's it's cool. I love engineering engineer. That's totally my thing My thing is like design engineering. I go like you know like I went I went to Berlin and the first thing I noticed was the lighting All the street lights are beautiful amber All the interior lighting in most places is like there's no you know how you walk into like a Convenient store here or whatever and it's just like fluorescent attack.

1:58:47Yeah, it doesn't really exist I mean there are places but like in general it doesn't and I was like wow They actually they care about this shit like people are like we don't like the harsh lines are too bright And it's not good for you know concentration whatever I I love design. I like anything is designed I could like look at an ash tray. I could look at a knife. I love knives. I like you know whatever I just You know whatever firearm and just like I can you know, it's like any engineering that people were passionate about and they're like This is what we wanted to make and we made it. I'm like yeah good for you.

1:59:19Yeah, I'm into that too. I just love Design and innovation. Yeah, I just love seeing like the human mind come up something like that spiraling. I mean I mean imagine the amount of passion and Drive and dedication you have to have to develop something like that actually produce and make it and then when you see the Post -Rusway this thing fuck him maneuvers and hands. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so cool. I know I know and the Gordon Murray cars That just what's that just give out the Gordon Murray T50 and the t What's that he's the guy who designed the F1 McClaren That the you know the $20 million now evaluated evaluated a $20 million supercar The Yeah, um, he he designed that a legendary designer and then he made two cars one is a fan car Well, no, it's not a fan car.

2:00:09It uses a fan to depressurize the zone behind the car. Oh, there we go T50 I think it's the t50 What the fuck is that? Yeah, so center driving position and two passenger seats on either side look how low it is just like the F1 Wow, it looks a lot like a McClaren. Yeah, yeah, it's that's that was his baby and how's nothing handle? It's I mean, I there haven't been any reviews on it yet But I mean look at that stick shift and they they designed the cockpit around you So you come in for a fitting essentially But you get to see all the mechanics of the mechanics are exposed for the shifter The interior of the car, but so shifter like is it have gears?

2:00:51Yeah, yeah, so it's a full gas car It's a full gas. Yeah, the other one that they came out with is more of a 1960s homage This in a manual transmission. Does it have a clutch? I may yeah clutch manual transmission Yeah, yeah, so the t t33 that one check that one out Um, I love this car That's very interesting Yeah, this is more of like a kind of more natural, but but Gordon Murray's like he's a he's just a legend is that the guy is Insanely talented, but he just like made these cars the cars that he wanted to make and there was like nothing Every wire every bolt that guy is in I've watched so many interviews and everything is approved by him Oh, that's gorgeous.

2:01:39They're really beautiful Automobiles and he doesn't release performance numbers Because he doesn't believe in that he believes in the spirit of the car like the way it feels And of course is going to be lightweight and all that stuff. Scroll back down please And it does traction control either I don't think so is in every major engineering area the t33 is mechanically superior to modern -day Supercars go to the interior So it looks like wow So is this like a bespoke thing they let me make a certain number per year? Yeah, all that's Yeah, and you and you go into the design studio like you can go in there and you just basically go through all the swatches and you know color blah blah blah blah blah Yeah, you know, I mean there's some beautiful automobiles Out there and I can't afford them, but you know I click on that video so I can see that video Yeah, it's pretty sick.

2:02:30Does it show a driving? I that's where they really see them like yeah, there should be a sound, but That's the weird thing about his company like they don't really show a lot of footage of the car in action, which is kind of curious It doesn't know what has been actually released already can you buy one you can order them T50s exist. I think or I think if that's the name of the t50 figure Why is this video? It's stupid. I don't know. I don't know. It's a sales pitch. Yeah. Okay. There's a track. Okay, now show the car. That's it That's what I'm saying. It's like that's the one thing I don't like about is like you don't well that that's that's the guy that got drove the spiraling that was crying That dude super tall guy.

2:03:12He's this tall Gordon Murray's tall too. It was kind of fun to see the action together But yeah, I mean there I mean that that so that fan in the back So it depressurizes the zone behind the car so that you don't need a spoiler for downforce Ha well there are there are there are too many spoilers on either side It basically as soon as that pressure starts to build up So that's with the fan on what makes it a lot louder You can disengage the fan when you're driving why would you Wow, I mean, you know small towns and stuff like that. Yeah, tell them to deal with it. You're in town. Oh, yeah This is good.

2:04:00Oh look at the back seat. Isn't that great people sit behind you. Yeah, just like the F1 Wow, the F1 was center with two passengers on either side Which I kind of like that. I mean, it's like you're gonna take two friends on a ride, you know, it's kind of fun And then you get that center drive position, which I've never experienced before but I would love to get a center driving position Yeah, wow, that's crazy. That's a road car man, isn't it great? Yeah, I know it's like you know There's still like there's some cool stuff going on But you know the good thing is like there's a cars at every price point.

2:04:31They're all like so many great ones, you know, I love them Yeah, it's a good time for automobiles But it's like it's a weird thing because they keep making them faster every year. I know where's this go I know that's what I'm saying. There's a biological limit to speed and G forces like at a certain point all electric cars are gonna Basically be the same zero to 60 Mit handling will be different, but like the zero to 60 like the and and and stopping is like that's a pretty predictable science I don't know where we're gonna go. We can't get faster than then blacking out, you know, right G force It's like you don't want to be like right I wonder if that's possible.

2:05:10I think so. It's like a blackout from a car I mean you could black out you yeah, you could black out from a corner I mean because blacking out is just reduced blood to the brain So I don't know. I guess on a forward acceleration. You should be able to black out. I think you could black out Have you ever been in a fighter jet? No, never been in that no That would be angels once what yeah, I blocked out. Oh, of course you did I went seven and a half G's and didn't black out and then I went we did another corner I didn't do the the hookings And I did one corner where I didn't do it right. I just didn't anticipate it was gonna be as much as I want Oh, that threw up.

2:05:50Whoa, no Yeah, I mean those exciting. I can't imagine that's a were you wearing the liquid filled suits? Nope. Oh, you didn't have the blue angels don't wear suits They don't know. Oh, that's right. They're like old school old school So they do you have to be kind of jacked and you can't be tall because it's all guys like it's too much blood Yes, it's yeah too much volume. Yeah, they'll do these guys are like stout and they have to be stout No, the pilot that thing because you have to have like muscles right Just like force the blood in your head. Oh my feel your you actually see your consciousness closing in like an elevated Yeah, yeah, like they do in like they do in video games when you like to start I mean it looks like this We look at that each other in the fly.

2:06:36That's fucking bonkers. I just like guys you just feed away from each other Don't have done a next to an air force base And it was I Couldn't tell you how excited it was when they were at stand they would all stand outside of their planes Yeah, you know with it just in front of each plane and they all have their names on it was like But there is nothing like an air show crash. Oh fucking terrify you. Mike are you kidding? There's a ton of those you can see too Yeah, have the blue angels they have a pretty low -cloth crash record. I don't know I think they I don't know who crashes But I've seen air show crashes where they fuck up Those are horrific.

2:07:20Oh man. I mean yeah, I don't want to go in no I don't need to go to the air show when I Have you seen the dirty roll you're seeing that what's that the Two planes come together with their landing gear out facing each other They're landing gear almost like kind of like offset and then they do a full Rotation. Oh god It's the most insane. I saw it like a few times. They're like and they're coming around here for a dirty roll Fuck that So yeah, so check this I hopefully you'll get to see it. So that's a dirty or single, but they did a double dirty roll Two planes facing each other landing gear facing each other.

2:07:57I would want to be far away with a spotting scope Oh, no, I want to be close down for one of those fucking things touches the other one Flies into the crown. Oh my god. It's it's Oh, I see oh he pulled out safely. Yeah, there was like a complication or that I mean the new plans that are coming out. I mean, I don't know and the if I can neck Wasn't the air dominance next air dominance vehicle or whatever. What do you think about all this uap UFO stuff? Oh shit You know, I don't know. It's something. It's something. I don't know what it is some of it is like Some people theorize it's like plasma technologies, but they're like they're getting physical signatures on it You know, you're getting like the all the radar return signatures and you're getting like infrared You know, I don't I don't fucking know man.

2:08:45I mean it's really blows me away. I keep Because I can't say I can't say for sure like I believe that that other life forms exist I also believe I just don't know if it's like it doesn't make any sense why they're like let's just hang out never show ourselves And just do like really cool tricky stuff and have people get a bunch of blurry images of it that we can never I can see yeah, that's that's the weird thing, but I don't know what it is man. I mean, it's either natural phenomena or it's something that's been here a long time or their probes From that are triggered by a certain I don't know technological escalation in human society or they're Somehow hours, but that doesn't make any sense either.

2:09:31I don't know man. I mean, I've seen them. I've seen I've seen UFOs But I've talked yeah, I might mention on the show before but I've seen like the classic like three glowing spheres in the distance Kind of moving along and like a search light turning on our spot light turning on turning off and then like gliding with no noise and Echanian I've seen that but And that was awe inspiring, but you know some of the footage that you see you're like that is What is that it just went into the ocean? Just went into the ocean at the same it's still traveling at the same rate that it was traveling in the air And they're they're recording it so it's either like a huge hoax which doesn't make any sense because people talk Or they're I don't know man or it's like interdimensional shit it's uh Maybe if we are in a simulation there'd like glitches in the simulation, you know like there's like other things bleeding through and like we're seeing Things that don't have any that don't that don't adhere to the laws of physics because they aren't really In our physical realm in a way.

2:10:32I don't I don't really know because I just It really it baffles me and then also when the government starts releasing stuff and then you got a guy going around like well You know, I've been cleared by the You know whatever the CIA or whatever to be able to talk about this and all the stuff like you've been cleared to talk about Stuff that you're supposed to not be talking about is a weird that's weird and then I'm like is it propaganda? Is it like I don't know man. It's it's a it's a tough one because I grew up like I love UFOs like a grew up project blue book Watch the series Love to aliens used to sit in my backyard looking up at the stars hoping that I would see it alien one day And then I did see not aliens, but I saw you a you a peas or UFOs.

2:11:13Where were you when you saw that? I was in Montana. I was like surprise 17 Yeah, and uh is we were camping and At night and then we decided to to climb a but in the middle of the night So we were crossing a big cattle field and then I was walking and two friends were ahead of me And I kind of just looked to my right stopped looked to my right and I just saw these in the distance I don't know how far it would be but like you know they looked like About that big from my perspective. So Downaways and there were three of them It wasn't one object because they change they would change distance from each other and change elevation a little bit really low And then at some points sometimes it would just stop And you'd see a little beam turn on turn off and then it would start to move again It was really really weird to add two friends.

2:11:59I kept looking at it I was like come here because I didn't want to not look and then look back and then they weren't there type of movie shit But my friends came back and They looked down and they they describe I didn't even tell them what I was looking at said tell me what you see They described what I was seeing. I don't know what it was. Wow, but I've heard other stories about three lights Um, same kind of shit When I'm watching like UFO whatever documentary stuff. Oh, it gave me chills because I'm like I've seen that whatever that is I've seen that so I Don't know. I don't know man. It's like I go my mind goes all over the place, but there's no definitive No, cuz no one's you know, it's like unless they land and you're like oh, right there.

2:12:41It is or we see not the Mexico City alien Right Obviously a joke Not a joke, but whatever it was a hoax Like unless we get something where it's like oh shit. What is that? What is this metal or you know the scientist saying that they found a piece of An alien ship at the bottom of the ocean because this material they can't identify um I don't know it's weird. I'm excited about it. I think it's kind of interesting and I'm hopeful, but it's almost like the more information that gets released the more I'm like I don't know what to think. I'm exactly where you are But I think more than likely that a lot of what we're seeing a lot of these people seeing is some sort of top secret probe some sort of super sophisticated propulsion system that doesn't rely on A combustion engine some completely new Style of propulsion system that they've been working on they've been working on gravity propulsion systems since the 1950s.

2:13:44True. They've been at least theorizing these things and the the possibility that someone has come up with something in a drone form That they can pilot like that makes the most sense to me because They keep spotting these things in areas where the military practices They keep spotting these things right the coastal San Diego off the east coast where they have these These restricted areas. That's where they're seeing these things Like it just makes sense that that would be where they would practice these things But what's weird about is that you know like there was that famous UFO crossing incident over the Northern all the States of going from I think Seattle or Washington all the way Idaho, Montana, North Dakota They were chasing the squadron of unidentified flying objects in their 50s The 50s 50s.

2:14:29Yeah, so that's the one thing that you do hear about sightings like even in the 1800s 70 hours that's the weird thing right that's the that's the thing where I'm like well If it's true, but I mean the 50s. I mean there's like shots of it. There's people took photographs of these like squadron of glowing Yeah, discs and they were kept and they were going so fast that jets couldn't keep up with them So I think scramble jets at the next base and they Our baseball team is called are called the voyagers based off of that incident. Really yeah So I mean in great falls, but like I don't know that that's the weird thing about I mean, I do I agree with you I think there is some kind of like propulsion system and that you know is able to like change on a dime and like doesn't necessarily get affected in the way that normal So there's probably multiple things going on simultaneously.

2:15:16That's what I'm saying Yeah, I do not doubt that we've been visited if there is intelligent life That's capable of coming here for some more else. Of course they would. I mean well, that's the place you would go I yeah exactly. I mean it's like it seems like in a way. I just feel like the earth is kind of like a Terrarium It's like it's like they're just like let's do a pilot program here throw some seeds down there sure monitor it See how it goes certainly could be I mean some people think the moon is a spaceship Well, those people might be dumb well, but they there is some there some well Are you familiar with the wife files?

2:15:51You know those guys that guy wife the wife files So it's a YouTube channel this dude he's he's he basically just read he recounts stories of paranormal Whether it's you know Occult stuff spiritual stuff, but not spiritual stuff. It's like ghost stuff or aliens um or Interdimensional travel that kind of stuff and then he talks he tells the story and kind of reenacts it Then at the end he kind of debunks it or tries to debunk it But he seems to be pretty impartial But he was talking about how like when they landed on the moon they did they They basically did seismic Tests and the reverberants there was a reverberance that would indicate that it's possibly hollow And it's it does sound like a far -fetched thing, but there there is a lot of There's some kind of interesting things there again.

2:16:41I'm not like a firm believer in it But if you think of it in a fantastical way like what if that was a spaceship that just like I don't lie you know, just they just stopped that spaceship did some experiments on earth or whatever and just left the spaceship there I don't know. I don't know. I'm dumb. Hi guys. How are you? That one seems so stupid. I know, but it's it's fun to look into Obviously what you'd be cool to see what you're crab things. You'll come in undertaking Would be involved in creating a spaceship. That's what is it? Huge quarter of the size of the earth Something it might be a smaller.

2:17:13No, maybe maybe that's got to be smaller than that one. It's one six earth gravity. Okay What's the size of that? Tell us the size. I don't know how much how small how big how big Y 'all know how big the moon is over there Y 'all ever all over I don't you guess I'm guessing like it's a tenth. Yeah, that's what I'm guessing But it's I mean, and then there's like smaller there's there's also kinds of weird. Oh here we go Know you were right Okay, one quarter one quarter this is okay 80 times less than it. Yeah, so it's pretty big. Yeah, if you look up hollow moon just to see Is it next to hollow earth?

2:17:53No, I hope not. I hope not that's that's we got it. They got to get off that hollow moon spaceship moon pseudo -scientific hypothesis prefers Proposes earth moon is either Holy hollow or otherwise Mechanic story from August. This this has got all of the details. Oh, we break down how missing turbo Can you follow moon? I'm gonna give rise to a bizarre belief. Well, then maybe that's yeah, that's awesome bullshit. Maybe I mean probably I mean, I felt that way too. I just thought it was interesting. It's a dust star Yeah, that's sort of thinking like I'm like that would be hilarious if it was that's all I'm saying like I think it would be because my thing is like I'm kind of like a big simulation Siri guy or whatever some version of a simulation that that we're existing in and then also series going off.

2:18:43Oh, sorry Sorry Siri Siri things right asking why you what the hell don't do that see I But yeah, it's like you know, it's like I'm like well scientists said the moon rings like a bell right? That's because of vibrations so the moon's seismic events known as moon quakes last much longer than those are here Conspiracy theorists once believed the moon was hollow though. That's more likely the moon being made out of cheese that I believe That's more likely than the moon being made out of cheese still seem ridiculous surprise leads not based on folklore NASA researchers sought to learn more about the composition of the moon during the Paul 12 mission astronaut Pete Conrad and Alan Bean set up a passive seismic experiment experiment as the landing site At the landing site as part of a larger set of moon experiments known as the Apollo lunar surface experiment package Once the astronauts were safely back in the command module they crashed the lunar module into the earth surface The impact was the equivalent of detonating a one -ton TNT and triggered what's known as a moon quake the first Human -made moon quake to take place the PSE seismometers Recorded the resulting vibrations which were much bigger and lasted much longer than the scientists had anticipated They were far different from the earthquake vibrations were familiar with Mustaches the composition of the moon is different.

2:20:08Yeah totally and then there's just like all like structures on the moon and then like the Japanese When they are not Chinese that landed on the backside of the moon like see there goes the moon is only 60 % as dense as earth That doesn't mean the moon is hollow, but it's with many things like the moon landing itself conspiracy theorists perpetuated that misinformation. Yeah I mean I mean favorite. I mean yes, of course. I mean I don't Spiracy theorists we didn't go to the moon. That's my favorite. I hate that. I just I just think it's so Annoying why is it annoying because it's too many people involved like they all way too many people involved like the people that were like there during the launch Also the fact that we've used the same way that we got to the moon with the things that we were landing on the moon now Right, but the difference is taking a human biological organism and having to go into deep space and go to the van Radiation belts and come back and also the photographs that were perfectly made with these but that was that was part of the they've made they did make films they did stage moon 90s for NASA internally did that for For the reason they did well isn't probably But but a lot of people but they were like I don't know.

2:21:23I'm pretty sure when we go up there We're gonna find the modules leftover modules if we don't then fine. I'll eat you know what? Well, I'll drink a full thing of of your energy drink. You don't have to do that But isn't it interesting though that that's one thing that you're kind of not open minded about That because it's just like it's too many people and but like you would have heard now. It's first of all it's 1969 Yeah, it's a different world. Nick's president everyone's full of shit They lie about everything in the middle of the Cold War But why would scientists and engineers lie? Well if they were supposed to be doing it so that they could be Russia in the moon Sure, yeah, and there was some sort of a patriotic Sure element to it.

2:22:05I mean that's a motive. That's a certainly it's actually haven't been back since 1972 Well, they said that a lot of that was because like they lost interest because it was just a competition We won it and then we were done. Yeah, you know interest you Back The polyprograms have employed 400 ,000 people and require the support of over 20 ,000 industrial firms and universities Sure, but if it's compartmentalized so if they are going into space And they're just not going into deep space. They're going, you know just like Like space shells. Yes. Yeah, which is not you know, it's not very deep. Yeah, Magnus fear the Van Allen radiation belts out into Deep space I like it.

2:22:48I'll entertain it a little bit, but it will be pretty I just have a feeling that it probably Close my yeah, I'm a little close might but I will say this I'll leave I'll leave a I'll leave it 8 % chance No, I'll leave a 5 % chance that I'm wrong Interesting, but but that's that's healthy 5 % sort of it's not absolutely. Yeah We'll find out we'll find out if people ever actually do go I know well, we're supposed to right next three years There've always been supposed to that's George H Herbert Walker Bush said that we were going to go to the moon Yeah, W said we're gonna go to the W. I think Obama said we're gonna go to the Yeah, I guess every president has to but I mean but the uh my friends uh just uh My friends friend who has an architect Architecture company.

2:23:35It just got the One the bid for designing the lunar mod a lunar colony modules So they're they're starting to design on this Oh Maybe in your lifetime people live in the moon and then Mars. Yeah, I don't care about Mars so much But the moon makes sense, but that's a lonely place scroll back will make that smaller so I can see the the earth in the background That's what's wild imagine that that view. I mean if anybody doesn't like go there and go like wow this planet's cool And we should save it like I don't know what will That's that's amazing right that's the perspective right when you're outside of earth to look back That's what all the astronauts talk about yeah, they go to the space station and come back down It's like this insanely profound Recognition that this is this very delicate fragile thing that we're all a part of yeah And then when you're in it in your concentrating on boundaries and borders Disputes over resources and all that shit That's what just you lose perspective of the magic of what you are on this organic spaceship That's going to the cosmos it's it's so trippy to me.

2:24:43I always trip out with my friends where I'm like you know We're talking about be like even us just talking about being on the planet. We are on the planet But we're talking about being on the planet that we are on which is just insane to me. Yeah, I love I love Those weird contradictions. Well, I guess they're not contradictions, but just like just things to notice You're like you can never talk about consciousness without Realizing that you are the thing you're talking about hmm, which is crazy. It is crazy makes you mad if you Hey, can make you kuku you can make you kuku for Quokubas. No, no Just crazy kuku for kukubas is sugar addiction.

2:25:24Yeah, you're right. That's different. That's toughs delicious. I mean What they tried to do a bunch of sugar free versions just doesn't cut the monster doesn't even monk fruit It's pretty good though, man. What's that? One fruit is a sweet natural. Yeah, I like that Stuff but do they make kukubas with no fruit? They're not going to say it. Yeah, like we get captain crunch part of the thing is you're getting Sugar. Yeah, you're getting cracked out you get cracked out you're enjoying this absolutely delicious at the milk In the moments. Yeah, in the moment. It's so good. I mean destroy the roof of your mouth peanut butter captain crunch Oh, that I hated it.

2:25:58It's so good. I hated how good it was I just was like reaching the bag just Chocula member. Don't talk all of it cookie crisp. Yeah, bro. They just poison kids. I know they just poison kids for decades They're like we can get away with it until they find out but until then Mula yeah Well, they just get people to enjoy it and if they enjoy it keeps selling it like yeah, fuck the health consequences I know I know I know yeah, I'm always about like I want people to I don't want people to lose all the stuff that they love Just because it's healthy. It's like I just want them to realize they can have all the stuff that they love But it can be a healthy version of it.

2:26:37Well sort of you're not going to get a healthy version of a nice cream sundae I don't know extreme sundae. I've gotten some monk fruit sweetened Chocolate syrup that's pretty good. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. Like a dirty hippie that's lying to me about delicious with Like she and I and people talk about how good their fake chicken is now that that I don't agree with that I agree with Although I will say corn is very delicious that q u o r n it's made from mushrooms like mycelium or whatever that that I've never heard of that yeah corn We were selling it I worked in a health food store in the 90s and we would sell a ton of it and they make chicken cutlets and still like that You just like put them in the oven and they so it's a mushroom.

2:27:14Oh, yeah, it's really good. Bello, which is delicious kind of yeah But it's it's made from It's made from mushrooms. It's not like a mushroom, but it's like constitute. It's like mushroom protein or something Portabell mushrooms are fucking I love this portabell burger Getting so good. Yeah, and you don't have to lie to yourself to your own impossible bullshit. I know That's the one thing I'm not into I used to be into I mean, I still kind of him into like simulation meets You know, there's something kind of fun about it But in general when you look at the ingredients, it's like 30 30 ingredients.

2:27:46Yeah, that make up this thing It's like just eat the natural eat something natural or synthesize meat Which I'm invited to a dinner for the first time they're using synthesized chicken Though they're making a bunch of meals from nuts synthesized, but bio -reacted Chicken, which I'm very excited about. So that's chicken that was made in a laboratory. Yeah, so it's actually a chicken tissue That they're recreated. Yeah, they take cell culture. They only need one sample of it And then they can just perpetuate it and then they grow it into substrates they grow it among substrates and then create this Chicken meat right at Tyson's Tyson's chicken is heavily invested in upside foods that makes this Chicken there.

2:28:25They're only I think the only company that's ready to go to market Interesting, and they just got FDA approval. I wonder how bad that stuff is for you I don't know we're gonna have to find out, but it's just it's just chicken cells, right? I don't know Yeah, I've seen what they do 3d printing steaks. Oh, yeah, yeah, we printed that as well They put the phone in there and marble it and it looks like a steak I would love I would love to try that. Yeah, I'm into that. I that I'm into I asked Moby once I was like if they made synthesized meat or you know or bioreacted meat would you eat it and he was like yes He's like immediately and I was like I was like get it because it promotes another alternative to actually just raising a bunch of cattle and like all the resources it takes so And also ethical as well, but like I don't know it's uh I'm I like that kind of stuff because I like to pretend I'm an astronaut Paste yeah, I if I could eat like if I could get all my calories and a little pasting believe me I mean the first one to do and it was healthy and it actually worked I'm down, but you wouldn't because you're you like food.

2:29:26I do love food sitting down for a meal It's the smells and yeah, it looks and yeah chef prepared it. Yeah, but sometimes my addiction to food It actually does the opposite like yes 100 % I love it, but like sometimes explain your addiction to food Well, well, I mean like I I have like I don't know it's like I've been you know My weight fluctuates all throughout my life. I've been probably a Chebby or guy most of my life But I never liked it, but you know and there would be moments where I'd go like fuck this. I'm changing my diet I'm gonna exercise like once in high school. I got really thin in high school I got really in shape in my later 20s and then I did it again when I first moved to LA But sometimes my food like I just go in these benches, you know like oh, I'll be be late at night watching a movie and I'm like, you know what?

2:30:18I didn't eat dinner so fuck it. I'm like oh, there's that new burger place. Oh, I'll just get Uber eats Oh, they have two burgers that are really interesting. Oh, maybe I'll get both of them and I'll just save half or whatever And then I just eat all the burgers And I feel terrible and that will happen a lot or I'll go oh, this is a healthy cereal So I'm gonna I'm gonna have this healthy cereal and I'm gonna use flax milk And also and then I eat the entire boxes cereal. I can't I just once I get going It's hard for me to stop and then then when I like do you want to go out to dinner? But I'm trying to watch my diet.

2:30:50I'm like I don't know how to go out to dinner and not order You know like I get this weird anxiety about it But now that I'm doing the keto thing it's much easier because I can go like I can have cheese How long have you been doing the keto thing for like three months or something? Have you lost weight? I have lost a little weight Yeah, I've lost a little weight and it's and I haven't really been exercising that hard Just like getting like seven thousand steps a day or whatever but A lot of its diet and it's like once you get that sugar out of and I've also been taking this stuff cold I think it's like called super gut or something like that and it's like this Powder that you add to a drink and it it aids your micro your gut my own I think the combination of the two things that I'm doing I'm feeling like I'm a little bit more in control of my my appetite and That feels good because then if I do go off one day a week, you know I feel fine.

2:31:39I was at Sarah's party and she had like some sick pizza and I was like, oh screw it I'm just gonna go for it, but I also danced for two and a half hours as well I feel like it all balanced. Yeah, do you do you find that when you're on keto your appetite is much more suppressed because you're body able to burn fat. Yeah, way big difference Also, you have to eat so much protein right to supplement like the loss of Is a high satiety? Yeah, so that yeah, so in the morning. I usually do I Have like a lot of really great way proteins that I then I take with me or I even have like a hit of it Like you know that I carry with me so I can if I get hungry instead of going I'm gonna get the thing I'll just pour some protein and that always usually makes me feel full Cool and fiber powder that kind of stuff.

2:32:22I don't know I have a problem. It's the only thing in my life that I feel like that and scrolling like I have an addiction to news. I'll just be like yeah news news news news news news news news news news news news news I'm trying to wean myself off of that addiction. I addictions are real problem I need it gone. I really do because like if I checked in like maybe once a week I'd be fine. My new phone doesn't have any apps on it really. Yeah. Oh sick Yeah, so my ideas keep my old number and use it for social media when I need to do stuff Yeah, and then with the new one nothing on it That's a cool idea.

2:32:55I know it's it's tough. I mean I rely on social media for posting right But the problem is if it's on the phone that I use all the time. I see I'm just too tempted. Yeah, I get it Yeah, it's man. It's it's it's tough those those two things and then I'm addicted to driving But that's an okay. Yeah, that's a good addiction. That's that I love that I'm like. Yeah, that's the thing is finding something that's addictive It's actually like beneficial in some way rewarding in some way not a food. Yeah, the food thing Well food is it's reward this problem is it's very pleasurable. Yes, I know I mean like I don't mind for holiday like Thanksgiving like I'll get excited about I'm just gonna have some turkey and some Yeah, and gravy and some cranberry sauce whatever I can get excited about a holiday meal But my everyday day to day meal stuff that's the part where I'm like I need to get into a mindset where I know This is gonna be great for me and I'm gonna feel good and I made a good decision Yeah, you know, and that's that's all that can be really hard when you get that sugar talking to you and all those carbs I mean last night I got a sharka tree board for you know at night because I didn't eat dinner Had like the cheese and the meat and there was like this basket of bread and I just smelled it And I just took one bite of it and I was like, okay That's it, but I but I felt okay about it.

2:34:13I didn't feel like I didn't feel like I was being an asshole to myself You know what I was playing games, but I was like okay. Yeah, okay a little bit great back to the other stuff and I was I made it Every time I do that, I'm like, oh you made it good job man Yeah, it's like a game that I have to blend myself well you literally are what you eat If you eat a lot of shit your body turns is shit. Yeah, especially as you get older That's like I mean you're in your forties now. I'm I'm getting there. I'm in my 50s. I'm in my 50s I'm a 50 one yeah, but yeah, and I just noticed that shit and I just the inflammation things are the biggest thing for me I'm like that's the reward if there's anything because getting up in the morning and going uh, you know, we're sitting down and going You know every time people are inflamed yeah so many people are walking around and they just don't understand that That's a lot of it is your food.

2:35:01I mean the American diet is just so poor. There's something some insane number like 40 % of us are obese Yes, maybe more it's it's it's it's crazy the processed foods the fucking Sedentary lifestyle. I love when you see those old pictures from like 1970s. I know I know everyone look hot They're really great. They're gonna look great. They're reading normal food. Yeah, reading actual food Yeah, and then you know to 2023 and everyone looks like they're gonna have a heart attack at any moment I was like dupe pond got involved in our food and then it goes all over well a lot of people got involved in our food And you know, it's also shelf life.

2:35:35There's a lot of factors. You know, it's like if you want really healthy food It doesn't last long. Yeah. Yeah, you have to pick it and eat it raw milk and You know real healthy food that's it's biological. It's gonna deteriorate like if you want vegetables You have to eat them real soon after you pick them. Yeah, if you want meat you have to cook it pretty quick Yeah, yeah, yeah, or freeze it. Oh, freezing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well It's good though. You're on the keto thing. That's great Thanks man. A lot of people have done that and it's made a giant change in their life It really has and I tried not to be like hyper strict about it I'm not like I'm keto.

2:36:11It's more like I'm like keto -ish, you know That's good because it let it lightens a little bit because I know that I hate worse than like fads You know like sure I'm on the 30 60 diet or I'm on the blah blah blah diet I'm like settle down buddy just just just eat whole Good foods with no processed sugars and for all that shit and just like enjoy yourself. Yeah, so we've sorted out one aspect to your life Yeah, now we gotta sort out The exercise, but yeah, maybe that's why I come here I come here to get my diet on track That's the only reason I get with that and physical well -being Those are the things well we can guide you in the right direction.

2:36:47I certainly know people they can Yeah, there's some online stuff if you don't want to hire a trainer too. There's plenty of online stuff that you can get There is but I really love a trainer. I just this I love going like four days a week Going to a trainer and getting that relationship going and they're like obsessed with goals and I'm like Yeah, we're both in line with this and the improvements I love it Because I like going into a gym and no because it's weird as many trainers as I've worked with when I walk into a gym I guess I get options Like option paralysis. I'm like what do I start should I do shoulders?

2:37:20I think a shoulder no I'm gonna do should do shoulders. No, I'm gonna do legs no Maybe I'll do a little bit of each no, no, I'll do it's crazy. I It's I can't put together a program for myself. Well, you have someone put it together for you There's a lot of things online. There's apps that do that. Yeah, you just follow an app. Yeah, so many of those Reggie I technologically advanced guy. I know, but I yeah, I'm terrible. I'm the other worst It's just like it's so nice you walk in it's like okay, we're gonna do this today. I'm like great There's a social aspect of it that I kind of I kind of enjoy That is cool and then taking all the weight off of you.

2:37:54Yeah, someone else and yeah, and you go Professional and you're going to a place and it and someone who gets results and all stuff like that I used Kumail non -Giani's trainer for a while, but I wasn't really I wasn't I don't know His pharmacist too. Oh my god So funny. Yeah, I though wink wink love you Kumail Yeah, he's got he's no, he's but you know nothing wrong with taking hormones I mean, I took a little bit of HGH and I was first training Which like shooting it, but then like the shooting it up thing was like shooting it up like in well Yeah, into the fat and systemic fat, but like I just like it made me feel so crazy every time I do it I can't do this anymore, but I was doing fine with that.

2:38:38I mean they again I'm not looking to get like shredded ripped hollywood Marvel I just want to be fit. That's it. I just want to have like I fortunately I think I have a very good cardiovascular system, which is the most important part of this your central pumping Lifeline, but Yeah, I know I can do it. I can get back there again I just want to be in swimming trunks and like be really really really proud and I know that I'm I've learned how to be happy with my body I don't even do that. What's it fit so that they look good on vacation. Yeah. Oh, I know. It's kind of crazy if you are I am on vacation Like this like you like this event that you prepped for that's that's the little weird I don't mind I don't mind the metric of like we're gonna go we're all gonna go swimming and then everyone takes off their clothes And I'm just like I'm totally comfortable with it, right and that's what I want.

2:39:27That's all I want I just want to be because I want to look good naked because I've been there, you know That's the problems like when you've been there a few times That's that's the that's the thing because I'm just like I know I can get there in my friends are like but you look beautiful It's like yeah, yeah, yeah, I appreciate you saying that and I'm working on feeling happy in my skin But I think when I take a step down a you know, when I go down to fight a flight of stairs There's some extra jiggling going around like that feeling and so I got to do something it's fixable red It is this is a very fixable problem.

2:39:55It's isn't like the war in the Middle East. No very fixable problem Yeah, war in the Middle East or like people with you know that love heroin. Yeah That seems like a bigger problem. It's a little bit of a bigger problem But that's a problem that could be mitigated with some drugs too. True You know, that's that's the really sad thing about the lack of psychedelic therapy being legal in this country Yes, that's one of the best ways to fix it There's so many people that have fixed a lot of those problems including friends of mine particularly with iBegaine Which I have no experience I've heard about that.

2:40:27Yeah many many and there's actually a physical mechanism that happens in your mind that stops the addiction and tracks As you down the last drops of cratum Kava cream cove feel free Um They had a lawsuit. Yeah, or they're in a lawsuit. Yeah, there's some shit going on with them. Yeah, I mean I don't know. I don't know what's going on with that. I don't know. It's going on I haven't edited enough, but it's also like the guy who is doing it drank 10 of them a day I know this one. I'm talking about that. It's everything. That's like pizza. It's gonna sue dominoes because you order 10 pizzas a day Yeah, fucking heart attack or sue alcohol For your for your problems.

2:41:05I get it like regulations give it it's like you know, it's like any of these things It's I don't like regulations Responsible I don't like I some of them are wrong. Well for quality quality regulations. Those are important. Well, I like Yeah, like home construction regulations Sure, yeah, like a lot of knowing that this actually is Car regulations safety regulations 100 % I believe in that kind of regulation. Yeah, but I do not believe in regulating human beings choices of things That they have been consuming for thousands of years and to have people that have no experience in those things be the ones who regulate them is infuriating to me I agree with that because all the people that tell you that psychedelics should be illegal are not doing psychedelics That's like people saying you don't need exercise and you're Sedentary slot Shut up, you know all you need is a balanced diet bitch.

2:41:55You don't have a balanced diet. So shut the fuck That's a fat doctor tell me once you get all the vitamins you eat from your food and I look right at his stomach. Oh my god You bro you will spindly little arms and you're your gut. You can't even open up a jar of mayonnaise shut the fuck up Because it's like you got a lead bag example man talk the talk walk the walk and that that's what it's about And I'm thankful for like you know Rick Doblin. Oh, yeah, you know, Rick. I mean, yeah, we had that little exchange Yeah, we hung out together. That's so cool. That's a good cool dude, right? He's so important Shout out to Rick Doblin and maps They're so important.

2:42:31They're so important for elevating the discourse of psychedelics and highlighting the importance and all the benefits And the fact that they're doing MDMA therapy for soldiers. Yes, and people with PTSD and finding some really excellent results from that That to me is so promising and so important and all the and one of the things you're seeing now that I think is really incredible is people on the right Right wing people that recognize because they have friends that are in the military that have come back and then have done Whether it's psilocybin studies or whether you know psilocybin therapy or ayahuasca and they've had Amazing results and it's helped them tremendously.

2:43:09Yes, that is huge and that so that's it's changing the way people think about these things Where they thought it was just for losers who wanted to escape reality and you're just a drug addict and now they're realizing oh Maybe I was a little closed -minded and you know, you're talking to fucking Navy seals that have done it It's helped them tremendously like oh, I respect those people. I'm changing my perspective 100 % I mean, it's like psychedelics have been part of our culture since human consciousness existence forever And there's a reason for it and the reason for it is because it gets us to me.

2:43:42It's about creating options It's like when you end literally sometimes neural pathways new new neurons or at least new new neural pathways are generating But it's about like know it because when you're when you're entrapped in a either a trauma or something You're essentially in a really tight loop that you you can't see any other way of existing Yeah, and when you have a psychedelic it's like you zoom out and you're like oh shit There's all this other terrain. Yes, and then you can start to heal But I think like you know when I went to the maps convention. I mean I mean Eric Andre did maps uh show with flaming lips and But I also spoke on a panel about psychedelics and film and film and uh and I'm just like it's such a huge proponent of it And the fact that's being taken seriously and they're doing peer reviewed papers and research and there's more research being done on it I love it.

2:44:32I think it's one of the things that could possibly save humanity Yes, it sounds so crazy to say but I think you're right and I agree 100 % I think perspective enhancing things can save people's lives and they can save the way people view the way they could change the way people View the world which could which could help us all yeah Please yeah, come on guys Let's beam ourselves out and again not for everybody not for people with Like severe mental issues. No, no, no, no people that have a hard time with regular reality. No, they shouldn't be on it No, no, no, no, that's just like everything there's some people that shouldn't drink there's some people that shouldn't Smoke weed.

2:45:09You know, smoke and weed is the one thing that I talk about all the time because There are people that have like real problems when they smoke too much weed and they go crazy I've seen it. Yes, no people. I've seen it too and it's like I've had to learn how to be a lot more compassionate And it matter because sometimes I'm like no, they're just fake in it or they're being and I'm like now That's that's real and you have to have much more No, the biological variability amongst human beings is very wide and there's some people They just cannot handle a lot of different things and it's not their fault.

2:45:40It's literally who they are And we're all different. Yeah, I don't know. I just you know, I just want us to Get some perspective and kind of realize like oh man We could be doing some pretty amazing shit at all times. Yeah, you want to you know, yeah We don't have to always be like oh this sucks Right pessimistic all the time. You're like come on man It's like you got all this time. It's swear to god when you get older you're gonna think back about all that time that you were wasting Yeah, and you're complaining really feeling like yeah complaining. It's like Man get into the solution man like the solutions are fun Get into the solution.

2:46:15It's your next book. Yeah, that's a retuant's getting a solution, but I'll be in a black turtle neck Uh, how long you in town for? I'm here. I'm doing your club this weekend. So I'm doing five dates Your club well, I mean when this comes out maybe that doesn't but uh, yeah, so I'm doing five days. How've you been doing clubs? Uh, you mean like formal comedy clubs. Yeah, uh, not Throughout my career not as much. I'd say probably about like five percent of the place you're gonna love the mothership I went that one day. I know, but I mean to perform. Oh, performing. Yeah, it's great. I mean I always tell people I say like it's the comedy club because it is but it is a comedy club that if if a comedian wanted to design The perfect comedy club That's the comedy club that you would make and that's exactly what it is But it's just got the greatest vibe.

2:46:59I love that there's an independent viewing box for just the comedians You know, so you like they can watch the show because my thing is I hate fucking like being backstage Chat and fine, you know getting to know people. That's great But like I also like to watch the show. Well the fact that it's attached to the green room was the ultimate That's what I loved when we designed it and that was a projection room And I said what if we had this as our green room instead of the green room being backstage And then you just look down from these balconies. Love it. Oh, yeah It's so good and the the projection room is the perfect size.

2:47:30Yeah, it was perfect When we we opened it up and we you know, we removed all the equipment is a beautiful labor of love It really was and it's it's so fun to be there now and to have it work So and have it be received so well by my peers yeah comedians. Yeah, where they come there and go my god This is like you built the place. Yeah, you built the place for us. Yeah, I can't it's for you. It's for us It's for the art form. I had really is for the I designed it and built it or I had someone help me design it or other but built it Exactly for Comedy I didn't build it as a money making venture my goal was to break even yeah, I could be great if I could break even in this place I just don't want to lose money.

2:48:10I don't want it to be something on pouring money into every year I'm like oh my god. I gotta get rid of the club. Yeah I wanted to be able to make money so it's not a strain. Yeah, but also help the community and the fact that we have This very strong program for up -and -coming comedians. We have two nights of open mic nights We have kill Tony there. Well, the door people are all comics who audition for that job with their act They all get spots and they get showcase spots and they they get a chance to perform and then they get a chance to see So the best comics in the world come through man It's it's dope.

2:48:43I tell people that all the time. I'm like that's where you want to go if you go to Austin Like and you get the chance and you can you definitely got to go there because I mean I just saw some comedy and I was hanging out in the green room, but I was just like This is dope man. This is like this was this is the type of vibe I would create for a club and the sight lines are great Yeah, everything about is like it's great for the audience and great for the performer Yeah, we spent a lot of time I spent a lot of time thinking about it a lot of time and then Louis CK came in gave me a lot of great tips really Yeah, he told me to lower the ceiling in the small room make the the stage smaller in the small room And then the big room lower the ceiling even further.

2:49:18Oh, wow, and you know, it used to be a movie theater So it was like stadium seating. So we raised the floor I see and so now it's all one level guys That's how we got it to the point where it's the way it is right now and that gave you room for the thing downstairs Yeah, so give us the tunnel and you know, yeah, it's fucking dope. That's cool. Being able to come into the alley That's great alley loaded. I mean come on man. And the place is filled with cops like it's like super secure. I love it Yeah, it's great. Oh, it's awesome Congratulations, so I'm glad I can't wait to perform man. I can't wait to have you All right, Regis you're the fucking man.

2:49:51I love you to death. You are. I love you to you man. Thanks for always having all right. Bye everybody