#2060 - Gary Brecka

27:35But the vast majority of wheat and rice and things that you do buy will have been enriched with folic acid. All of it in the United States is less organic. Wow. So if someone's buying a sandwich and you're getting it on regular bread, you're just getting a heap of folic acid. Getting a heap of folic acid. Bowl of pasta, you're getting a heap of folic acid. And rice that's not organic, heap of folic acid. And your body's like, what the fuck is this? Your body's like, what the fuck? Just pay attention to your mood after you eat high amounts of some of those things. Oh, believe me, I'm very aware.

28:10You're my number one weakness. My number one weakness is bread and pasta. If I do go off the rails with a diet like I have a cheat day, that's what I cheat with. Okay. So try next time you go off the rails eating non -fortified, non -enriched pasta, white bread. Well, I have absolutely noticed that when I've gone to Italy. Yeah. 100 % notice it. That's why. You need to pasta. It just seems normal. Like, you know, I hear about a lot of people that have gluten now or drinks and gluten intolerances. And now I'm wondering, what does that mean? Well, the foods contain gluten very often. The foods contain folic acid.

28:46Really? 44%. This happens to pregnant women too, right? You know, postpartum depression, which for the record can begin before the pregnancy is over. Sometimes they get slaughtered online for saying, oh, you're talking about postpartum depression before the pregnancy ends. Yes, the diagnosis of postpartum depression happens very often before the pregnancy, before the pregnancy is carried to term. So 44 % of women have this gene mutation. What's the first thing their OBGYN tells them to do when they get pregnant? Take high doses of folic acid. Well, 44 % of them can't process this folic acid. So what happens?

29:17Why do they tell them to take high doses of folic acid? Because they're told that folic acid prevents neural tube defects, which is patently false. Folic acid doesn't prevent anything. And that folic folate prevents neural tube defects. Are they told to take it in supplemental form? Are they told to take it in formal foods that are sprayed with folic acid? They're told to take it in supplemental form. If you look at the majority of cheap prenatal vitamins, right? The good ones, like thorn, pure encapsulation, some of these, you know, really good big brands, they will have methylated versions of vitamins, right?

29:48They'll take the folic acid out. Right. Because what happens if you're pregnant? You have this gene mutation, MTHFR. Number one, you have a skyrocketing incidence of miscarriage. But then because you don't have the methyl folate that your body needs for the adhesion of the egg into implant into the uterine wall. But now she's pregnant and she starts to take a prenatal vitamin with 1 ,400, 1 ,600 % of the daily allowance of folic acid. She starts to go nuts, right? Develops postpartum depression. Eventually the pregnancy ends. She stops taking the prenatal vitamin and the symptoms go away. But she still blames it on the pregnancy, not on the vitamin.

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32:04And how do you get methyl folate? You buy methyl folate. You get these methylated form of that nutrient. This is why I say if you, if you look at five particular genes,

32:18MTHFR, MTRR, MTR, AHCY, and CompT, dude, if you find that you have one of those gene mutations and you supplement for their deficiency, magic things will happen in your body. You know, because if you have that, for example, there's a gene mutation called COMT, catacletal methyl transferase. And, you know, we all know people that are suffering from anxiety. If we haven't suffered from anxiety ourselves, chances are we know somebody who has suffered from anxiety. And if you really break down what anxiety is, right, a fear of the future, you know, we have to understand that it doesn't require the presence of a fear for us to feel fear, right?

33:01So you can drive home tonight and pull into your driveway and when you get out of your car, somebody's standing in front of you with a knife, right? So that's a real fear, right? Your pupils are going to dilate. Your heart rate's going to increase. Your extremities are going to flood with blood. You're going to start to have a fight or flight response. Mainly because an area of your brain has dumped catacolamines, fight or flight neurotransmitters into your brain. Boom, now you start to have a fight or flight response. But you could also be laying on the 30th floor of a condo in bed and you could just start thinking about getting eaten by shark.

33:32Okay, and the chances of a shark and now the ocean are coming up a 30th floor elevator, right, or zero. But you can have the exact same reaction. So how is it that I can have the same reaction to the presence of a real fear as an entirely perceived fear? Because it doesn't require the presence of a fear for these excess catacolamines to leak into the brain. And this is why the majority of anxiety that we have seen in our practices, that my clinical team treats, is coming from our physiology. It's not coming from our outside environment. In fact, if you ask most people that suffer from anxiety three questions, if you say, have you had it on and off your entire lifetime, they'll say, yes, there's your first sign that's a genetic deficiency.

34:17And then you say, well, can you point to the specific trigger that causes it? They'll say, most of the time I can. There's your second sign that it's not coming from their outside environment. And then the third question is, if you've ever tried anti -anxiety medications, have they worked? The majority of the time they'll say, no, it just makes me feel like a zombie. That is very indicative that this is a nutrient deficiency and not a mental condition. We have a lack of... Yeah. So do you encourage people to take methylfolate as a supplement? Absolutely. I encourage them. I think everybody should...

34:49Everybody should take. It's weight -dependent, but you know, methylfolate about 800 micrograms a day is usually sufficient. Unless... Unless you take with food? You can take it with or without food. It's a non -water... It's a water soluble vitamin. So unlike vitamins A, D, E, and K, which are actually fat soluble, that you need to take with food for them to be absorbed, you can actually take those, even on an empty stomach, as long as you're not taking it with a bunch of other vitamins that cause you to be nauseous, because it changes your stomach pH. I think every single person should be at a minimum on a methylated multivitamin.

35:23The basic raw materials that your body needs to perform the process of methylation, because methylation is how we create neurotransmitters. We make serotonin from taking trip to fan and amino acid and methylating it into serotonin. We make dopamine from phenylalanine and tyrosine. If you can't make these conversions, you have certain deficiencies, and yes, you can have deficiencies in neurotransmitters, which will lead to the expression of a mood disorder. You don't have a mental illness. You just have a lack of mental fitness. And this is why I think that we're so quick to say that we have pathology and disease or dysfunction, and then we go to chemicals and synthetics and pharmaceuticals.

36:09And I'm not anti -pharmaceutical, but I'm saying is before we diagnose somebody with a mental illness or an autoimmune disorder or with an allergy or a sensitivity or irritable bowel syndrome or any number of other conditions, we should ask ourselves what raw material could be missing from their body that could be causing this to happen. When I was in the mortality space for 20 years, I was reading medical records just horrific voluminous amounts of medical records. I would see simple nutrient deficiencies get misdiagnosed as autoimmune conditions more times than I can even remember. So for example, you'd have people go into their primary care physician and I would look at their medical records for 5, 8, 10 years.

36:56Sometimes we have more than 10 years of medical records. And I'd see, man, this person has single -digit vitamin D3 levels. They are so clinically deficient in vitamin D3. Vitamin D3 goes from about 30 nanograms or desolate or to 100 nanograms per desolate or 60 to 80 is a perfect range. But chronic deficiency in vitamin D3, the sunshine vitamin. The only vitamin, by the way, the human beings can make on our own. I think it's arguably the most important nutrient in the human body. In fact, it was the second leading cause of morbidity in COVID for people that had deficiency. And it's also why we said that COVID disproportionately affected minorities because there's a higher incidence of vitamin D3 deficiency because of the pigment of their skin.

37:36But we would see these deficiencies in vitamin D3 that had gone on for decades. Now, all of a sudden, the patient is going into their doctor and saying, Doc, I wake up sore and aching in the morning, like I had a workout the night before when I haven't. Souls in my feet, my ankles are sore when I get out of bed in the morning to walk to the bathroom. My knees and hips really bother me lately. And you know what? Just this past few weeks, it's kind of hard to make a fist. You would be shocked how many family medicine practitioners go, you know what, Joe, you got rheumatoid arthritis. I'm going to hit you with some high -dose prednisone.

38:06I'm going to put you on something called a corticosteroid. And you're going to be fine. Well, we knew in the mortality space that if you started corticosteroids, you had six years and one day until you were having a joint replacement. It was so accurate that if I saw you were misdiagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis and started a corticosteroid, I would artificially advance your age six years and one day and I would schedule the joint replacement. And then what I would do is I would model the reduction in what we called your ambulatory profile. How will you amulate? Now, how will you move? Because sitting is the new smoking, right?

38:41Sedentary lifestyle is the leading cause of all -cause mortality. And so as I reduced your mobility, I would bring in all the diseases that exacerbate with reduced mobility. So now if you rewind that, you had a simple nutrient deficiency in vitamin D3, colocal cypherol. You were diagnosed with a condition you did not have, put on a medication that wasn't required, which led to a joint replacement that wasn't necessary. How does... How do these corticosteroids, how do they ruin your joints? How does that happen? So eventually what they do is they upset the balance inside the joint, the synovium, the protein balance inside of the synovium of the joint.

39:21So initially they act, initially they act as any inflammatory, right? They reduce the inflammation and you actually feel a little bit better. It's like cortisone. You know, repeated cortisone injections have ended a lot of professional athletic careers, probably throw them on time by being the biggest. But that's why we try to reduce the amount of cortisone that we actually put into, you know, athletic injuries now. But... But what is the mechanism? Because it... It becomes cytotoxic to the joint because it interrupts the protein metabolism in the synovium of the joint. And so what happens is the joint begins to dry out and the friction surfaces become less lubricated and then begin to contact one another.

40:01And as they contact one another because this protein is broken down, we rear the friction surface away and you get down to anchor cartilage, which we call bone -on -bone. And there's a lot of nerves there. And you start to get a lot of joint pain. So corticosteroids will also, like methotrexae, they also block and interrupt the ability for the body to convert folate to methyl folate. They artificially give you the same condition as this gene mutation, which is why one of the biggest side effects of corticosteroids is gut issues. Because methyl folate is involved in the motility of the gut, you now start taking a corticosteroid and it shuts your gut down.

40:44And by corticosteroids, are you talking about prednisone? Like, what are the ones that they prefer? Prennisone, methyl prednisone, and other oral corticosteroids? I have a friend who had gout and they put him on prednisone. For short period of time, you know, in the acute inflammatory stage, it's okay, but to take prednisone systemically, for a prolonged period of time, you're going to start to hear that he starts to get low back pain. Well, first of all, I'd be very surprised if he doesn't have gut issues right now. If you ask him, do you notice the incidence of gas bloating diarrhea, constipation here and promoting cramping, kind of going up when you started this corticosteroid to go, yeah, I got some freaking mess.

41:24You know, constipated sometimes, then I get diarrhea. Sometimes I blow up like a tick. So, to take it back to cortisone, so if someone has an injury, would you advise them to never take cortisone? Is it occasionally okay? Occasionally, it's okay. I think most orthopedics now are trying to get away from repeated injections of cortisone other than at the inception of the acute injury. Because I know a lot of athletes, you know, they'll get a cortisone shot if they have to perform. Yeah, I mean, if they have to perform, but remember that that's also going to cause, you know, ligamentious intent in this laxity.

41:59You know, it's actually, can be cytotoxic to those, to those tissues. It's cytotoxic to fibroblast, which are the little cells that are embedded in those tissues that actually help promote healing. Right? Because there are, there are cells in injured tissues that are essentially through the inflammatory process, calling platelets to the site of an injury. Right? Which is one of the ways that we heal. We call platelets to the site of the injury. The play that itself is kind of useless, but it has growth factors inside of it when it arrives on site. It bursts. It drops off the growth factors, and now you start this healing process, which is one of the reasons why PRP works so well.

42:36You know, play the rich plasma. You're taking all the platelets from the body and you're concentrating them into a site of injury. Right? It's why, man, I used to love PPC157 until the FDA just came down on it. What the fuck is that about? Ah, fuck, dude. It's just... Why did they do that? You know, what's astounding is, I read that whole report, and it wasn't for safety reasons. Right? It wasn't because of the reporting of massive amounts of anaphylactic shock or hospitalizations or overuse or, you know, or somebody having some kind of illness or effect or, you know, shock because of it. It was because of the lack of safety data, which is another way of saying it hasn't been paid to be put through full blown, you know, FDA clinical trials, which no one's going to do.

43:25So, is that make PPC157 impossible to get now? It will. Yeah. And... It's so effective. It's so effective. I mean, I can't even begin to tell you how many thousands and thousands and thousands of patients. My clinical team has put on PPC157 never with an adverse event into a so good for the gut. It's a gastric pentadeca peptide. It's, you know, it's actually synthesized from gastric juice, so it's actually tolerated very well orally. I've started to see it orally, which I never really saw before. I always thought it was injectable, but I see it advertised as orally. Well, side -injecting it to the site of an injury, like if you have a lateral epicondylitis or something you injected to that site of injury, is very good, right?

44:07It'll localize there and kind of help call platelets to that location. But it's also extraordinarily good for leaky gut. So people that suffer from flamatory conditions of the bowel, urinal bowel syndrome, Crohn's disease, diberticulitis, those sorts of things. You know, BPC157 can be just a game changer because it is tolerated well. And they're going to get rid of it. They're going to get rid of it. Who's mother fuckers? I know. Who's mother fuckers? It's fucked up. You know, there are amino acids. There are amino acid sequences. I mean, same with growth hormone peptides. You know, well, Somorlan is still being allowed, but hypermoralin, CGC1295, Mk677, I butamorin.

44:48These growth hormone peptides that kept people off of exogenous growth hormone, that worked with the naturopathic circadian release of growth hormone, that helped lots of older people fight sarcopenia, age -related muscle wasting, with virtually no side effects. By the way, you know, Somorlan, I think, was first FDA approved in 1983, if I remember correctly. So, you know, these things have been around for decades. We have lots of safety data on these. And thousands and thousands of patients without a diverse event, and we're going to have to drop it. And so, do you think they're doing this because they want the drugs to go through the safety protocols?

45:27Or do you think they're doing it because they see that people taking peptides limit the amount of pharmaceutical drugs they take? Well, I think, I think it's a little bit of both, right? I mean, the question is, where is the impetus coming from? Is it coming from the impetus to protect the public? Because if you're trying to protect the public, then why don't you look at it? Get it open. Yeah. I mean, they're still available. Yeah. Look at the addictive amyloids and opiates and look at the side effects of, I mean, the whole serotonin hypothesis and depression has been disproven, but we still put people on SSRIs for depression.

45:59You know, serotonin reuptake inhibitors. And people are on these things for 15 or 18 years. Yeah. Right? Which is another, by the way, thing that methylation helps to fix. It's not that all depression is related to methylation, but the prevailing theory when I was in the mortality space was that if you were low on serotonin, you were by definition depressed. And I was like, well, if the serotonin hypothesis were true, honestly, give about this back then, and now it's been disproven, then if low serotonin were depression, then why wouldn't we just raise serotonin? Why would we put people on a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor that just rations or slows the uptake of serotonin rather than increase the supply of serotonin?

46:40Like with 5HTP. Like with 5HTP, with like turning methylation back on, with 5Mpholate, with the complex of B vitamins. Reducing, you know, urinary catacolamines are associated with anxiety and depression and you can reduce urinary catacolamines with simple supplementation. B complex of methylated vitamins. You know, methylated folate, sometimes something called SAME, esodenosolmethyne. These are generally harmless amino acids and methylated vitamins. That people just need so their body can perform its duties, so it can perform its job. You know, like I work with people all the time that come in and they're like, man, my god is a mess, Gary.

47:25You know, I've had irritable bowel syndrome or I've had, you know, Crohn's disease, or diverticulitis, or I have intermittent gastroploding and constipation, and irritability and cramping. And, you know, and I look at their allergy test, and they're like, man, I'm allergic to all these things, wheat, soy, corn, dairy, blueberries, bananas. I'm like, okay, let's slow this down. Let's just take corn, for example. You say you're allergic to corn. Is there ever a time that you can eat corn and not have a reaction? They go, yeah, sometimes I can eat corn and not have a reaction. Okay, then you're not allergic to corn because allergies are not transient.

47:57Allergies are consistent. So if you can sometimes eat it and sometimes not, you're not allergic to it. You don't have a sensitivity or an allergy. You have a gut motility issue. It's the most overlooked thing in all the bariatric medicine, in my opinion, because we stop thinking of the gut as a conveyor belt. It's like, remember, having read 40, he wasn't made famous for the automobile. He was made famous for the production. Yeah, for the assembly line. Yeah. Right? So the assembly line was just a glorified conveyor belt. You put a part on it at one end and it's a kind of traverses the assembly line.

48:30You know, every few feet, somebody just tinkers with the part, tinkers with the part. And by the time it reaches the end, it's fully assembled. Well, the human intestinal tract is no different. Right? It's just a glorified conveyor belt. It's 30 feet long. We put contents on it at one end as it exits a stomach in a very acidic environment. And as it traverses the gut, it generally becomes slightly more alkaline than it exits the rectum. That sequence of events is very important. Right? If Henry Ford just walked into his factory one day and doubled the speed of the conveyor belt, what would happen?

48:59The entire line would break down. Nothing wrong with the conveyor belt. Nothing wrong with the part on the conveyor belt. Nothing wrong with the people working there. Nothing wrong with the food. Nothing wrong with the bacterial flora. It's not it. It's not gut dysbiosis. It's not improper flora. It's not analogy. It's not a sensitivity. It is a gut motility issue. And you change the motility of the gut. You get all of the outcomes that look like food sensitivity, food allergy, you know, bacterial flora being off. And then people start shoveling down probiotics and they get all this allergy testing and they go on these restrictive diets and it doesn't seem to help, because they haven't addressed the motility issue.

49:44Methylfolate, complex epivitamins, very often will give your body the raw material it needs to restore that parasitic activity. And then you can get off the proton pump inhibitors and the toms for the acid reflux, which is now, you know, screwing things up down the line. So, you know, again, I always come back to this theory that we should always look at the soil before we diagnose the disease of the pathology, because it's very little to lose by saying, what nutrient deficiency could this person have that could be causing this condition to exist? It's like when people come into our clinics for hormone therapy, you know, very often, we don't put them on hormone therapy, we just put them on nutrients to support healthy hormone therapy, right?

50:25I mean, if you have low vitamin D3, low DHA, and high protein in your blood called SHBG, your hormones aren't going to be off, right? Free testosterone is going to be clinically deficient. Test also will probably also be low. And you don't need hormone therapy. Your endocrine system hasn't failed you. Your body just doesn't have the raw material it needs to do its job to produce those hormones. So, you know, I really wish we would stop, or we would start going back to studying human physiology and saying, what could we put back in this body so it could perform optimally? I really think magic things happen to human beings if their body just has the raw material, it needs to do its job.

51:09And most people don't. And most people don't. But that's the majority of people who are nutrient deficient. They're nutrient deficient, but they don't know what nutrient they're deficient. They don't know what these five genes tell them, and they don't know whether or not they should be supplementing with methylfolate, avoiding folic acid, whether or not their sleep is related to their gene mutation. So, for example, if you have the gene mutation compT, you have one or two types of sleep patterns. You lay down tired to go to sleep, so your body tired. But your mind is awake. And so, what happens is your environment quiets your mind wakes up.

51:46And these people, if you ask them, what are you thinking about at night? They'll tell you it's the most innocuous little nonsense. It's like, did I get everything on my grocery list today? Did my belt match my shoes? Did I return that Instagram? It's nothing that couldn't wait till the next day, right? So, why does the mind wake up at night? Because we are releasing these catecholamines into the brain. We're not breaking them down at the right rate. So, our mind is awake. Catechol -o -methyltransferase, this compT, takes those excitatory neurotransmitters and it breaks them down. This is why things like magnesium and zinc and SAME work so well to help people sleep.

52:28They're not actually sleep aids. They're methylation aids that help you break down neurotransmitters that create that waking state. And this is why those same people will say, I work really well under pressure. Physiologically, when you tell me you work well under pressure, it says, you're saying to me, well, I lack the ability to set priorities internally. So, I use external pressure to set my priorities for me. Well, what if you didn't have to rely on that extra stress, right? What if you didn't give equal weight to every thought that came into your mind? What if you weren't laying awake all night thinking about, what color dishes you'd use for a Thanksgiving day party and you'd lay down and actually just went right into a deep delta wave of sleep?

53:19I mean, just thinking the impact that would have on a balance of your lifetime. And you may be one simple supplement away from that. I have never thought of it that way. I'm going to be honest with you. I've never thought that thinking would be connected so inextricably to diet deficiency. No question. Because it's because what is thinking? It's this very often. It is this release of these categories into the brain, a fedron, nor a fedron, epinephrine, dopamine, one of which we call adrenaline. And so, you don't need a massive dump like a fight or flight response. You just need to have them rise and not be able to break them down at the right rate.

54:03So for someone who has a very hard time going to sleep at night, what would be a good supplement for them? CME, magnesium 3 and 8. What is CME? E -S -Adenosol -Mathione. S -A -M, capital S -A -M, little E. So S -A -M -E, S -Adenosol -Mathione. I'm going to read this down to you. Nothing I have a heart. I don't have my wife does. Does she? Yeah, she's a hard time going to sleep. I can sleep on her. Dude, I should do this before a moving train. I'll look at... Do a cheek swab on her and I'll tell you exactly what she's deficient. S -A -M -E. Okay. So, S -Adenosol -Mathione. It's very commonly...

54:42It's one of the most highly required methylated nutrients in the human body. We also make S -A -M -E, you know, eventually, homocysteine breaks down to methionine and then eventually, S -Adenosol -Mathione, which goes into the brain and helps quiet the brain. And so, we need certain raw materials, methylated nutrients to perform certain basic functions. Right? Remember that the majority of our neurotransmitters are right here. About like 90 % of the serotonin in your body is here. If you don't have it here, you can't have it here. So, rarely do serotonin imbalances start here. They usually start here.

55:17And so, by taking a methylated multivitamin, which is very simple to get, methylated folate, complex of B vitamins, S -A -M -E, trimethoglycine, if you have high homocysteine, you have a shot at feeling the difference between good and great. I mean, I think most people are walking around right now at about 60 % max of their true state of normal. They just accepted such an erosion of their baseline sense of normalcy. They've forgotten what it feels like to be normal. They're like, I'm just supposed to not sleep that well. I'm supposed to get a great idea in the bedroom, walk through the kitchen, and wonder what the hell I'm doing in the kitchen.

55:53You know, I'm supposed to have this little bit of weight gain or water retention around. I'm not really supposed to be responding to exercise in my 40s or my 50s. And none of that is true. None of that is true. These are not consequences of aging. They're consequences of missing raw material in the human body. Wow. So, for people that suffer from anxiety, what would be the thing? Like, so, if you wanted to look for some sort of a genetic component to these people having anxiety, what would you look for? I would first highly suspect methylfolate deficiency. Now, if there are anxiety, if you sit down with them and they say, no, I haven't had it on and off throughout my lifetime.

56:35Okay, when do you get anxiety? Okay, I'm claustrophobic. Every time I step on a crowded elevator, I get anxiety. That's different. Or I'm afraid of heights. And every time I walk to the edge of a 34 balcony and look over, I get massive anxiety. Right. That's different. What I'm talking about. That's fairly normal. Right. These situational anxieties. But generalized anxiety. Idiopathic anxiety. The logical anxiety. The logical anxiety. You know, all these conditions that people are told they have. Right. And then they're taught coping mechanisms. I am by no means against, you know, therapy or counseling.

57:08I think those can be some of the most beneficial things that anybody does. There are signs of strength. But the majority of what we teach people to do with anxiety is cope with it. Here's how you deal with it. You breathe. You get a, you know, you learn to get a therapist. You avoid certain situations. You modify your lifestyle. We rarely say, why don't we supplement for the breakdown of catacolomy? Fight or flight neurotransmitters. Which are associated in urinary excretions with anxiety. Why don't we supplement for the proper breakdown of catacolomines and just see what happens? And you watch people's anxiety eviscerate.

57:48Magnesium, calcium, gluconate, hydroxycobalamin. This specific form of B12. You know, when you take a complex of B vitamins, a certain form of B12, methylcobalamin, hydroxycobalamin, methylfolate. And you put it into these bodies. And they start breaking down catacolomines for the first time and getting rid of them. They made for the first time in their adult lifetime be anxiety free. And be like, what in the hell did I wait so long for? Wow. So the complex of B vitamins, if someone's looking for a complex of B vitamins. Like, what specifically does it have to have in it? Um, uh, periodoxine, riboflavin.

58:33So all that periodoxine, how do you spell that? P -Y -R -O -D -I -X -I -N -E, periodoxine. And it's a form called periodoxyl -5 -phosphate. But periodoxine, riboflavin, fireman, niacin, panathenic acid. Now, if you look at a B complex, it should contain all of those things. It bivorture of the fact that it's a B complex. If you go to a good vitamin manufacturer, you should see that their B complex is periodoxine, riboflavin, thymin, niacin, panathenic acid. And then you'll see little certain forms of it. The one thing you want to avoid like the plague in the B12 category, and I get a lot of shit for this, but is a form of B12 called cyanocobalamin.

59:22How do you spell that? C -Y -A -N -O -C -O -B -A -L -A -M -I -N. Cyanocobalamin. Can we pull something up on here? Sure. Can you go Google? Because before everybody climbs all over me and says, it's basically, it's a cyanide -based form of B12, right? It rarely occurs naturally in nature. It's, you know, the most bioavailable forms are called methylcobalamin, hydroxycobalamin, and adenosylcobalamin. What do we mean look at? Oh, are we going to be able to see it or not? Yeah. Oh, okay. Just go to Google and put in cyanocobalamin, C -Y -A -N -O. Okay. Cyanocobalamin. And then put a space and put the word Pubkem.

1:00:15So I'm just going to take you to the National Library of Medicine. Just click on that first link. So I'm going to take you to the National Library of Medicine at the National Institute of Health. You can go here, we're on the public chemical site, and you can look up this form of B12. You see how it says cyanocobalamin B12? Can you scroll down to section 5 .3? So if I want to see the component compounds, like what is this made out of? I can go right here to section 5 .3, and I can look at its component compounds. Can you click on Hydrogen cyanide? So this is a flammable acute toxic health hazard and environmental hazard.

1:00:48By the way, this is the most common form of B12 in the world, right? We put this in Flintstone vitamins. We put it in all kinds of vitamins. The body can't even use this. It has to be converted into hydroxychobalamin. It's astounding that we're allowed to do this, right? Because in the US, we use something called single -dose toxicity to determine whether or not something is dangerous for you, right? And people that say things like the dosage determines the poison, that is pathetically nonsensical. Because nobody gets mercury poisoning from a single, you know, a allowable dose of mercury. Nobody gets chemical poisoning from a single, small dose of a chemical.

1:01:25But let's go down here and go to view more at the bottom.

1:01:33So just read that sentence right there. See, Hydrogen cyanide is a highly toxic, see that? Yeah, highly toxic conjugate acid of cyanide that is used as chemical weapon agent. What? Yeah. This is what we make our patients look for. It's carapter, it's a colorless gas or liquid. What? So if you're taking B12 supplements and they have that in it, you're getting this. You're getting that. And you're essentially taking poison. Essentially, you're taking cyanide base B12. The argument is it's not enough cyanide to cause harm, right? So which I agree, but there's safe levels of mercury. There's safe levels of fluoride.

1:02:10Our water is full of fluoride. Our toothpaste is full of fluoride. But if you look at the fluoride studies and 3600 municipalities around the United States, there's an inverse relationship between the concentration of fluoride and an IQ. Yeah. As fluoride goes up, IQ goes down. Yeah, we talked about that in the podcast recently. We were trying to figure it out. Like, what the fuck is fluoride doing in the water? It's a neurotoxin, right? It actually, I think it was originally fluorohaxine, which actually was a byproduct of fertilizer production. And they realized that when they kept the fluorohaxine and the fertilizer, it killed the seed.

1:02:41So they pulled it out and they wondered, well, what the hell are we going to do with all this fluorohaxine? Well, I guess we'll convince water municipalities to put it into the water. Because there's a marginal amount of evidence that it can create a nanoparticulate layer over the enamel and it could potentially prevent tooth decay. But you should just brush your teeth. Or you could just brush your teeth, right? It's a standard tool. Well, the fact that I said it's like putting sunscreen in apples because some people get cancer. So you should just every apple should have sunscreen in it. Right.

1:03:12It's really that dumb. It is that dumb. And you know, when you look at it, I was like, I was looking at the back of some of these, I did a post on this the other day. I was looking at the back of these two paste labels. And it literally says to call poison control if you swallow it. Bore on toothpaste. It says if swallow contact poison control. Oh my God. But you get four times that dosage in eight, eight ounce glasses of water in a day if you drink tap water. And so, you know, one of the things I tell people to permanently get out of their life besides GMO foods is tap water. Like today should be the day that you never drink tap water again.

1:03:49Because I have fun to listen to New York City. It's like New York City has the best tap water. So shut the fuck up. You should never drink that shit. And I was trying to explain to him about fluoride. And it goes in one ear out the other. You sound like a cuck. You did fluoride. It's bad. Fluorides good for your teeth. Like, how do you know? Why I'm saying that? Do you know it's bad for you? What? Fluorides bad for you. Fluorides associated with low IQ. Do you know the higher the dose of fluoride and the drinking water, the lower the town IQ is for real? Yeah. People go, here, come on. Why would they do that?

1:04:19Yeah, it's a neurotoxin. Right. But why are they still dumping that? Is it just some sort of a predatory relationship? They hit the fluoride manufacturer? Well, we now think of the position that you're in. You're in municipality. And like, well, guys, we've been giving you this fluoridate of water for 25 years. And it's cancer causing neurotoxin. We're going to go ahead and pull that out. Imagine what that would mean. It's public panic. But that's real. It's absolutely real. You know, I got censored all over Instagram the other day for posting about seed oil. It's the same thing. I was like, look, guys, I didn't say particularly seed oils are bad for you.

1:04:47What I did say was industrial process seed oils are bad for you. If you put a canola plant in a commercial press, and it comes out gummy, and then you take that gummy canola plant and you degum it with hexane, which is a no neurotoxin. And then you take that degummed oil and you heat it to 405 degrees and turn it rancid. You rancid neurotoxic oil. And then you take that rancid neurotoxic oil and you deodorize it with sodium hydroxide, which is a known carcinogen. And then occasionally you bleach it. So you clear the liquid. Then you bottle it and put it on the shelf. That is horrible for you. In fact, that's a problem with the majority of our food supplies that it's not the food itself.

1:05:30It's the distance from the food to the table. Right? I mean, everybody vilifies meats. But if you like a grass -fed meats versus an industrial raised cattle. They're night and day. They're completely different cow cows. So with seed oils, what happened? You got censored on Instagram? I got fact check. Fact check. Yeah. So if you go to my Instagram and has that, you know, it has that little blank page of it. Do you go to that? I want to see this fact check. Oh, shit. Because these fact check motherfuckers are horrible. Oh, yeah. So go to my, uh, Gary Bracka. And then you go to my, um, reels. And it's about 20 reels down.

1:06:03You'll see the little clouded fact check thing they put over top of it. And it says, um, false information. CY. And then you have to click through. And it says, um, food grade, uh, seed oils are not toxic for human beings, experts say. I'm like, well, I'd love to debate that expert. Can we go to that, Jamie? What would the posts say? What is the post? Well, it's going to say false information. It's going to be kind of blanked out. What is the post that you wrote? What does it say? What does it look like? See if you can find it. Just seed oils. Yeah, seed oils. Um, it's probably a few months ago now.

1:06:39But it's still on there. Just go to my, um, reels, not my stories. You'll see it on there. I was going to know if you saw it. Yeah. Yeah. There's your reels. All right. Keep going. Down, down, down. Down, down, down. That's right around here. Keep going. The seed oils right here. Now that's that one they didn't catch. Okay. Good. Yeah. Keep going. They wonder how they do catch it. I don't know either, man. I don't know how these fat. Okay. Now we're getting into it. Around here somewhere. I keep going. Has a little, uh, get gone. It's pretty obvious when you see it, because it's cloudy. And, uh, the image itself is cloudy.

1:07:19Yeah. Like, it's fuzzy. It fuzz the image out. Huh. Interesting. Yeah. Is that it right there? No. That's the UFC. I don't know if it shows that way on the web. Maybe. Interesting. I think it's that far. Keep going. Yeah. I'm pretty far back now. Yeah. You are. Keep scrolling up. You probably won't pass it. But you'll see they put a thing over top of it. Okay. So I don't know what that happens on the website version of Instagram. Uh, well, I'm sure they fact check it on there too. Um, no, it's not going to be in the LTNM and stuff. Scroll down a little bit, Jimmy. Let me see. Okay. It was about maybe two, three months ago.

1:08:05Well, this one. So it's before that. Yeah. Before that one. They catch that one. Five months ago. Here's before that one. So it was before that. Yeah. It was before that. Okay. See. Six months ago. I'm just very curious. Yeah. No, I want to show it to you too. The experts say these are these are my reels. Yes, sir. Okay. Keep going down. Because it was on a podcast. I did with. Inferred. Bradley. Perfect. Domino's. Yeah. Seven months ago. Flight travel stuff. Keep going. Maybe push down further. Yeah. I can find it on my phone. If I had my phone. That's what I'm saying. But I'll show to you. It's okay.

1:08:50Yeah. So. Yeah. But they blank it out. It has a little thing over it. And then it says false information. CY. And then it says. Fact checkers say. Seed oils are not bad for human beings. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen people argue that too. And I'm like, what dose is in for how long? Because they're ubiquitous. They're in everything. So many people are consuming seed oils. Right. And they really are industrial lubricants. Right. That's they essentially repurpose them for human use because they had a bunch of it laying around. So true. Crisco. Yeah. And it's not good for you. By any stretch of the imagination.

1:09:21So when they said that seed oil. Are there any seed oils that are okay for you? I mean, a certain cold process. Seed oil. I mean, I eat olive oil. I think you need. But olive oil. But olive oil is like, you don't think of that as industrialized seed oil. No. And you have to watch that too. Because sometimes they'll put palm oil in. Or you found on the phone it shows that. Yeah. So they see it. It says fact checker leads stories. Conclusion false. Fact check food grade canola oil is not toxic for humans. Experts say. That's the link. That's it. Experts say. Okay. But see how they have that that blank over there.

1:09:55So you can't even read it. Right. You can't go through it. See how my face is on the clock. Yeah. Well, there's a lot of things that I follow that have that. Unfortunately. Yeah. You got it for a little while. Yeah. It's wild now. It's so crazy. It really is wild. It's so crazy. I mean, guys. There's so many corrupting factors that are changing the way people have access to information. Yeah. And they're not getting access to accurate information. And they use that fucking appeal to authority. Experts say. Mm -hmm. What experts? Please put this expert across the tail off of the same experts that the sugar industry fucking bribed in the 50s to tell people that saturated fat is bad for you.

1:10:32Yeah. But to this day, people still believe that. It's wild. I just did an explanation of what the mRNA vaccine was. I didn't even attack the mRNA vaccine. I just explained to people because people didn't understand it. And it was false information. See why? Reviewed by independent fact checkers. By the way, that's horse shit. Right. There's no independent fact checkers. Right. They're not independent. No, that's right. It's horse shit. They have a fucking mandate. Okay. So, click on that. So, you could just hear what you're saying? Well, how is that flower? Yeah. Some flower seeds aren't good for you.

1:11:04These seed oils are terrible, man. If you actually saw how something like a canola oil was processed, right? I mean, when they actually first made canola oil, the oil comes out very like thick and gummy. So, this is what you just described. Yeah. Yeah. Just what you just described. So, none of this that you're saying is not true. No. So, when you click CY, where does it take you, Jamie? Well, it just, oh, I can't. It doesn't. Well, when you say CY, it just says that. That's all it says. False. It just says false. Fact check. Food grade canola oil is not toxic for humans. Not in this pulsality, no.

1:11:41Oh, they hammer pulsality too. The canola oil for toxic for humans since it starts with the seeds of a rape plant. No one's saying that. By the way, it's not a rape plant. It's rape seed oil. No one calls it the rape plant. I know. Seeds have a rape plant. No, it's not true. The United States, the Food and Drug Administration, which by the way, has never been known to be corrupt, which sets food regulations recognized canola oil safe for human consumption. Well, furthermore, a tough university nutrition scientist told lead stories. Who is this fucking person? You just a tough university nutrition scientist?

1:12:17Yeah. Told lead stories. There's no basis for the claim that food grade canola oil is unsafe for humans to consume. In fact, evidence suggests that canola oil may benefit heart health. The claim about canola oil's toxicity appeared in a video posted on Instagram, December 25, 2022. In that video, an unidentified on -camera narrative claim. Canola oil is toxic. Here's how it's made. So it tastes that. There's Paul. Look at him. Listen guilty. Looking guilty. The claim that canola oil is an old canard. In 2019, for instance, lead stories debunked a claim that canola oil causes brain damage, dementia, and weight gain.

1:13:03In January 4 of 2023, email to lead stories Alice H. Lichtenstein, director and senior scientist of the Cardiovascular Nutrition Laboratory at Tufts University of Friedman School of Nutrition Science and Policy. Emphasize that claims that food grade canola oil is toxic for humans are untrue. There's no basis on which to claim that any canola oil on the market contains uric acid or the oil extracted in any way. That is different from other plants, such as soybean oil. So what do you get nervous? Look, canola oil is made by a process of chemical refinement called RBD. Refined, bleached, deodorized, which involves the use of hexane, which is what I was just talking about.

1:13:47A volatile solvent with low toxicity. Okay. Refined, bleached, and deodorized. And it's been used to extract oils from sea since the 1930s, where when people started catching cancer like quicker. Yeah. This article with Canola. Canola Council of Canada. It's an article from the Canola Council of Canada. Two things I don't trust. The Canola Council and Canada. And Canada. Seed oils are first crushed to express the oil and the seed oil is extractive from low boiling solvent, like hexane deodorization is the final step. Whenever you have to fucking deodorize food, like what are you doing? That's not an armpit.

1:14:25Yeah. It's salad dressing. Exactly. By the way, it's hexane. Unknown neurotoxin. Yeah. We just use a little bit of it. Right? This is the thing that we do in this country. We have something called single -dose toxicity, which means that, you know, if this capsule has a certain amount of arsenic in it, but it's not enough to cause a toxic reaction, then I can still give it to you. But it's the cumulative dose toxicity. Most European countries use. Which is why there are dozens of compounds that are legal in the United States that aren't legal anywhere else on the surface of the earth. They're certainly not legal in Europe.

1:15:02They don't use folic acid in Europe. You know, you say in a cobalamin. I'm actually saying a cobalamin. I'm not sure. We have to move to Europe. I know. Do we have to move to Europe? I'm more interested on, like, how a small website like this becomes. They get paid. I know. They get paid. They get fucking paid. The Cunola Oil Society declines. Yeah. Like, there's so many of these websites that are in Cajuts with big businesses. It's horseshit. These independent fact checkers are not independent. And they're not checking facts. Right. They're just spewing propaganda. Well, it's astounding, too, that you can actually be from the Cunola Society defending the Cunola facts.

1:15:40It's hilarious. Yeah. But really is hilarious. And again, the same is with fluoride. So, you know, these, it's all of these little microtoxicity that are adding up. I mean, you know, when you look at cellular metabolism and how it's interrupted by all of these microtoxins, one of the reasons why people, when they go on certain types of diets like a carnivore, die experience such a dramatic improvement in health is because the majority of what's happening is they're removing a lot of these toxic chemicals. Makes sense. Improving their mitochondria. By the way, should we change the name of rapeseed?

1:16:15I know. You know, do we, do we have a murder fruit? You know, exactly. Why, why are they calling it that? How is it the same thing as Cunola? Like a domestic violence seed. Right. Because you think of Cunola. You think of corn. Yeah. Palm Cornel sunflower sounds great. Yeah. But rapeseed. But all of those seeds, safflower oil, sunflower or sun seed oil, sunflower seed, all those seeds are bad. All those seeds are bad. All those seed oils are bad. Not that sunflower seeds are bad for it. But those seed oils are bad due to the process, due to the hexane, due to the odorizers. Yeah. The polyunsaturated fatty acids.

1:16:52I mean, this is what causes the oxidation. You know, in cholesterol, you know, it's oxidized and it actually starts the atherosclerotic or to, you know, process, it starts the placking and the scarring and it actually makes these, you know, turns them into free radicals. So you're saying that seed oils themselves cause the placking? Seed oils themselves cause the oxidation of cholesterol, which leads to placking. You know, the cholesterol really gets vilified, right? I mean, LDL cholesterol. I mean, there's very little evidence linking LDL cholesterol on its own to cardiovascular disease. No, there are some apoliper protein A's, apoliper protein B's.

1:17:26But when you look at your blood work and you see that your LDL cholesterol is marginally high, you know, let's say that it should be 99 or less. And you're 109 and they say, well, you should go on a stat. I mean, marginally elevated cholesterol when we were in the, when we were in the mortality space was a marker of longevity. At the time, what we would do is if you had low levels of triglyceride and you had elevated, marginally elevated LDL cholesterol and high HDL cholesterol, the high density liver protein, we would actually extend your life expectancy. Really? We would extend your life expectancy.

1:18:04If you were clinically in our, within these certain margins, if you were very low on cholesterol, like your LDL cholesterol was clinically pushed down. Remember, cholesterol is not a fuel source, right? It's, the body can't use cholesterol for energy. It's a construction material. So we used to build every cell wall. We used to build cell membranes. We used to make hormones. It's a very necessary construction material. And it gets vilified because it's at the scene of a lot of crimes, but it's not pulling the trigger, right? I mean, a more dangerous measure would be to have high cholesterol and very high triglycerides, because then you start to reduce the particulate size of cholesterol.

1:18:44You know, so remember, like from high school geometry, as the size of a sphere gets smaller, it's surface area to volume ratio goes up. And so a lot of these small particular cholesterol are very dangerous because they pass through the arterio wall. They get eaten by a macrophage and they start this process of scarring. But just having elevated levels of LDL cholesterol was a marker for longevity in the armortality space. So are there foods that when combined with high levels of dietary cholesterol, like is there things that you should not eat while also consuming high levels of dietary cholesterol and they work together in a negative way?

1:19:28Yeah, I mean, I'm not aware of any link between dietary cholesterol and serum concentration of cholesterol. Only 15 % of the cholesterol on your bloodstream comes from diet. 85 % of the cholesterol on your blood is manufactured by the liver. So if you want to lower your cholesterol, we have to lower what we put into the front door of the liver. If you put high glycemic carbohydrates in the front door of the liver, you will likely get not just high triglyceride, but also elevated levels of cholesterol out the back door. So elevated levels of cholesterol and high triglycerides are the problem with the system together?

1:20:00Yeah, and that comes from diet as well as sugar. Yeah, I mean, sugar is the enemy, right? I mean, so people that eat the most sugar have the highest blood fat. You know, if we go back to Dana White for a second, you know, he had a life threatening level of triglycerides when he was fasted. His triglycerides were around 800, which is very high for a fasted state. Yeah, when he was fasted. And what was it like when he was eating? Oh, I can't imagine. But he also ate a lot of refined carbohydrates. Yeah. So now, you know, this syndrome called metabolic syndrome, which is showing up in younger and younger and younger ages now, right?

1:20:42Is this combination of, you know, abdominal fat, high triglyceride, high blood fat, high insulin, hyperinsulinemia, high levels of sugar, which is called hemoglobin A1C, the three -month average of your blood sugar, low HDL cholesterol, the healthy cholesterol, and high blood pressure. And if you have any two of those five, you have metabolic syndrome. He had all five of those five in a really bad way. And, you know, it's a very hard concept for him to understand, too, that you have, you know, this kind of life threatening level of triglycerides. So we're going to put you on a, on a high fat diet to bring your blood fat down.

1:21:26Right. Right. We're going to try to put you into a state of ketosis so your body starts to use beta hydroxybutyrate and fat as a fuel source. So we can actually drive the triglycerides and your blood down. And everybody, you know, they hammered me and they're like, oh, I don't have $10 million to spend on a program like that. I'm like, it was, it was a 10 -week, 12 -week keto reset, you know, peptides, yes, hormone balance. But all the fancy equipment, the red light therapy bags, the hypermax oxygen, the PMF, all those things you can get for free by just, you know, going out in sunlight, grounding, and learning how to do breath work.

1:22:00Well, most people don't give it the credence that it deserves because it's free. Right. It's like, you know, most people don't even want to take a cold shower much less get into a, you know, a cold plunge. You know, most people don't want to wake up with the sun and take their shirt off and go outside and expose it to natural sunlight. Most people don't want to take eight minutes and do breath work. But if you just added those three things to your morning routine, you'd change the entire trajectory of your life. You really would. You really would. Yeah. And I try to tell people that all the time.

1:22:30Yeah, I mean, if you got 125 grand or 150 grandline around and you want to buy the top red line red light bed, you want to buy the top of the line cold plunge, and you want to buy a PMF mat, and you want to buy a hypermax oxygen system, then buy all means because those do work. They'll make it convenient for you because all they're doing is bringing the best of what Mother Nature has from the outside and bringing it in. What is the best red light bed? Is there, is I have one of those ones that you stand in front of? Mm -hmm. You know, what are those? That's a June. June, June. Yeah. Is that good?

1:23:03Yeah, so they're good. But, you know, the millawatts of irradiance, between all the beds that we tested, we actually make, we partnered with DaVinci Medical and TheraLite360 to make one of the most powerful red light beds on the market. It was a call. It's called the 10X. 10X. Oh my god, one of those bitches. How's it going? 10X. Health. Red light bed. It's made by TheraLite360. Pull that up, Jamie. Because I've always wondered. Just go to 10X health system. I barely use it on you. I think it does something. I feel better when I use it. Yeah, that's it. That looks like a fucking spaceship. It does.

1:23:40So that's got 45 ,000 light diodes. That's 123 grand. Jeez. It's Louise. By millawatts of irradiance, it's one of if not the most powerful bed on the market. So what happens with this thing? What's the benefit of this sucker? So there's certain very specific. Yeah, you just buy with shop. Why don't you buy it? Dude, who the fuck's got that kind of credit card? I know. Well, this is what I get you from online all the time. So before everybody starts killing me going, you got to buy $123 ,000 light bed. Right. You know, you can, you know, just add to your morning routine exposing your skin to sunlight and getting out in first light and doing breath work.

1:24:16But this sounds like it's a lot better. Oh, this is incredible. I mean, so if you look at the wavelengths of light that are really therapeutic. The 680 to 720 nanometers, 810 and 940. There are other wavelengths. But those wavelengths in particular will do some very, very special things. You know, not only will they help improve collagen, elastin, fiber, and synthesis in the skin. So red light therapy is actually very good for your skin. The longer you use a red light therapy bed, the more kind of youthful appearance you'll take on. Oh, youthful appearance, young Jamie, you know you want that.

1:24:48Kind of stay young. So the real magic happens in the mitochondria. And how often would you use something like this? I use mine 20 minutes a day as often as a day, every day if I can. Because I went to this place that was a hyperbaric chamber place, but they had a red light bed and I was using it quite a bit. But they said you can't use it every day. I don't see any evidence that you that overexposure to those therapeutic wavelengths. So red light is detriment. Why would they tell you not to use it every day then? I have no idea. Because they'll tell you to use it every day if you have an injury.

1:25:22And I'm like, well, does it not harm you when you have an injury? And it only harms you when you don't have an injury. I mean, if you if you got a little more sunlight exposure one day and had the same nanometers of wavelength passing through your skin, did you do damage on the days that you had slightly more sun exposure? Because, you know, the real magic of red light, when there's a lot of magic to red light, these, you know, reduced inflammation, increased my cardiovascular circulation. But really what happens inside the mitochondria, I have kind of a saying that the presence of oxygen is the absence of disease.

1:25:55Because during my 20 -year career in the mortality space, we did not find a single disease ideological pathway that did not have its roots in a lack of blood oxygen, or specifically was not exacerbated by a lack, by, by hypoxia. And if you think that we all die the same way, right? I mean, every human being leaves this earth the same way. We all die of hypoxia, lack of oxygen to the brain. But it's just what causes that to happen, right? Is it a gunshot wound, a boss of stroke, you know, heart attack? But the truth is that this level of oxygen management in the body is a measurable thing. You're either using oxygen very well, and therefore you are slowly approximating the grave, or you are using oxygen very poorly, and you are accelerating towards the grave.

1:26:45So for example, when you look at how human beings are truly powered, like where do we really get our energy from? It's really one energy source called ATP, right? And it's produced inside this little organelle called the mitochondria. There's about 110 trillion of these in your body, 10 % of your body weight is mitochondria. And the mitochondria has a voracious appetite for oxygen, when it receives oxygen. It will create 16 times more energy. It will produce 36 ATP rather than 2 ATP. So imagine a little mitochondria that has a motor inside of it called the Krebs cycle. And every time this motor makes one revolution, it has two choices.

1:27:25It can either create two units of energy, 2 ATP, or it can create 36 units of energy, 36 ATP. The difference between a 16 -fold increase, or 16 -fold decrease in energy, is the presence of oxygen. And so if oxygen enters this cycle, right? It produces 16 times more energy. It puts out water, and it also puts out carbon dioxide. If there's no oxygen present, it only produces 2 ATP, and it releases lactic acid, and which, by the way, doesn't make your muscles burn, but it releases lactic acid. So what if, when you're used to red light bed, one of those wavelengths of light actually goes through the mitochondrial wall, and it goes into this motor, it goes into the Krebs cycle, and it actually kicks out a gas called mitochondrial nitric oxide, and forces oxygen to dock.

1:28:20There's a little place in this motor called cytochrome sioxidase. And cytochrome sioxidase is like a one -arm man. He can either shake hands with oxygen, or he can shake hands with nitric oxide, but he can't do both. So if I can get him to let go of nitric oxide, and grab oxygen, I can get a 16 -fold increase in mitochondrial output. Whoa. So that's what happens with red light. And you get that from sunlight as well. Is that something you get from sunlight exposure? Just not at the depth that you would get from a red light bed. This is why I'm saying that if you're on the budget for a red light bed, with the majority of people don't, the benefits of getting first light in the morning are so much more astounding than you think, but because it's free people don't, you know, they don't think of it as important.

1:29:10Yeah, they don't think of it as important. Yeah, so this will go a few inches into the skin, 360 degrees around. If you look at photo -biomodulation and the treatment of Parkinson's syndrome, like using red light therapy on the skull for neurogenic disorders, and neuroinflammatory conditions, if you look at arthritic conditions, and all kinds of inflammatory pathologies in the body, and the impact of photo -biomodulation, it is astounding what light does in the human body. And what is the difference between what that does and what one of those juvenile does? So it's the millawatts of irradiance for one, which is the power kind of how strong it's being pushed.

1:29:51Whether or not you can regulate the hertz, right? 528 hertz, 5 ,000 hertz, 1 ,000 hertz. This is kind of the frequency of the light. And then there's the different wavelengths hitting you at the same time. You generally find therapeutic wavelengths between 680 and 720 nanometers, specifically 810 and 940. Those are the ones that have the most clinical research on them. They're also extraordinarily safe. And so I think it's actually FDA approved for the skin and certain eye treatments, but I'd have to go back and check that, but I think it does, red light does have an FDA approval. But laying in red light therapy every day, if you do that for a month, even if you did it 10 minutes a day for 30 days, at the end of that month, you would notice a profound and material change in your performance.

1:30:40Really? That's why there's red light beds at the UFC performance center. But the one's like a juve is like how much less powerful. I would say juve is good, right? So it's something. A full body red light therapy is best, right? We already know it's effects for wound healing, collagen, fibrin, last in inflammation reduction, the improvement in microvascular circulation, so like in your eyes, liver, lungs, pancreas, kidneys, brain, that photo biomotulation is very good for neural inflammation. And because of the way that it up stages the mitochondria, just think you've got 110 trillion mitochondria in your body.

1:31:24If you could power those mitochondria up, if you could get a 16 -fold step -up and cellular energy, just think of the amount of extra waste elimination, repair, detoxification that you could cause. And is it dangerous to your eyes? Because then one of the things about those light beds that make you wear eye goggles? They make you wear eye goggles and probably shouldn't say this on the podcast, but I mean, I don't. You don't? Do you have open your eyes? I live in wide open. I look right at the light. What? It's not bad for your eyes. Watch what happens to your vision after a week to 14 days of being in a red light therapy bed without eye protection.

1:32:00Really, if you don't have a marked improvement in your vision, I'll be very surprised. So what is the negative aspect of why do they tell you to cover your eyes? Well, because, you know, I guess the bright light if you're staring directly at one of those lights if you have some kind of photosensitivity or a damage to your rods or your cones, or your macular, or your retina, I mean, if you had eye pathology, which you would know about, then there might be some downside consequences. So you just lay there and stare at that fucker? Right at the light with my eyes wide open. I'm 54 years old, I don't wear, well, 53 years old.

1:32:32Don't add a year to my life. And I don't wear reading glasses or anything. I have a small font on my phone. Dude, I do. You do? Yeah, my shit started falling apart at like 445. Did it? I really started noticing. But I started taking... I mean, just to define out what happens after you're in that red light path. I'm down. Let's go. I started taking pure encapsulations. I love those guys. Yeah, macrosupport. And I stopped the degradation of my vision. It hasn't gotten worse. Great. Yeah. So it's not the best. But, you know, my font's not that big. Yeah. I can read that pretty easily. I can read websites.

1:33:15I don't need glasses. But when I use glasses, I definitely see things much better. Yeah. I mean, it helps. Yeah. Juve website says, only when you're at one setting, do you need the eye protection for their newer devices? You don't need it. The newer generation 3 .0. So what does it say? The wavelength only eye protection is not required and may be beneficial. From maintenance, I'm glad they're doing that. Oh, okay. I'm glad they're doing that. But the Juve, they don't make one that juices you up the way you're supposed to. No. No. That's 125 millawatts of radiance, more powerful than anything on the market.

1:33:46Wow. I think the next bed has maybe 15 ,000 light diodes. There's 45 ,000 light diodes in that bed. Okay. So one is diodes are made by us. The other one is great. Yeah. So Juve does something for you. It's not bad for you. It's good for you. But it's not fantastic for you. It starts with sunlights. It's skin exposure. Right. Juveman talks about that all the time. Yeah. I'm a huge fan of Juveman. Yeah. He's the best. Yeah. He's the best. Yeah. And he's just also made this kind of science so much more accessible to people. Yeah. And it's still. I mean, just blowing my mind all the things I'm learning from you, which is just.

1:34:21Thank you. I've been learning this stuff for so long. But that's part of the problem. It's so difficult to like maintain this information you had. No doubt. Well, to keep it. And I want to get it to the masses. Like, you know, I don't want my social media and podcasts and stage talks and things are like that for me to be speaking to my peers. Right. I feel like the woke biohacking crowd has enough woke biohackers that are doing a great job out there that so many needs to just talk to the masses. There's a bunch of fucking grifters in that woke biohacking crowd. Yeah. There's a bunch of unhealthy looking douchebags.

1:34:57Yeah. It's crazy. It's just selling nonsense. Yeah. I know a few of them. And I know they're frauds. Really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's a bunch of fucking people that are just sort of reiterating shit that people like you have actually done research on. Right. They say it wrong sometimes. Yeah. Switch things around and fuck things up because they don't really have an education in it. Yeah. But yeah, their business is selling you products that are supposedly beneficial. Oh, gosh. There's a lot of these. That's why I always try to like every. I'm like, look, here's things you can do for free. Right?

1:35:27I mean, yes. I always sell them in line. You can buy my supplements. But peer encapsulations are great supplements. Thorne and Thorne is a great supplement. I would rather people take the information and put it to work in their life than, you know, buy my e -book card. So the number one thing, probably number one thing is let's start from the top because we've got a great list of stuff. Get rid of folic acid. Get that shit out of your diet. Get rid of folic acid. Number two, if you can afford it, get a genetic methylation test once in your life. How much does one of those cost? About five, six hundred bucks.

1:36:01Oh, okay. Six hundred bucks to do it through me. And you'll do it once in your lifetime. But you don't have to do it through me. There's other great companies. But do a genetic methylation test? Give five specific genes looked at. M -T -H -F -R, M -T -R -R, M -T -R -A -H -C -Y, and C -O -M -T. And you do this for a cheek swab? You do it with a cheek swab. You swab your cheek. You put it in a little test tube. You send it to the lab. And then the results come back to you. For the balance of your lifetime, you will never guess on what your body is deficient in. Because you will know what it can methylate in what it can't.

1:36:36And then just start supplementing for the sake of deficiency. Not the sake of supplementation. And step back and watch what happens. Forget all the fancy Amazon roots and rare supplements that only one company has that they have patented and trademarked. And it's the secret to optimal health. Because by the time you get way down the road to all of the, I would say, enhancement type supplements, like I'm a huge fan of NMN. I'm a massive fan of risk -vera -trol. You know, stem cell stimulatory supplements and things like that. You've got to cover the basics. You've got to get to foundation right.

1:37:11The soil has to have the right nutrients so the body can perform its basic functions. And then you can start targeting things with misalized tumoric and corkumin and NMN. And you can start taking creatine to help with muscles. You can do all of those additional things. But to get the basics, where does the rubber meet the road? What does this tree need to grow and survive? And then what can I do to make it thrive? Because I think a lot of people are skipping that step. They're just not doing the basics. They don't have just a basic morning routine. A basic, free morning routine. So they actually lack a lot of confidence in themselves.

1:37:48Right? And I use that David Goggins method of stop negotiating with yourself. Like discipline is better than motivation. Because a lot of mornings, you know, you're not motivated. But you just say, okay, here's the four things I'm going to do. I'm going to wake up. I'm going to try to wake up with the sun. But I'm going to wake up in the morning. I'm going to do eight minutes of breath work. I'm going to expose my skin to sunlight. And I'm going to touch the surface of the earth. Just those things right there. Just earthing, grounding, breath work, and sunlight exposure, which cost you zero, zero, and zero.

1:38:19What is grounding? Like why does that do anything? So if you look at, you know, when you contact the surface of the earth, you actually discharge into the earth. You're talking barefoot. Barefoot, right? So bare feet touching bare soil. Earthing grounding is a very real thing. So when you touch the surface of the earth, you discharge into the earth. So what does that mean? You actually change the surface polarity in the body. Remember that pH stands for potential hydrogen. It's a charge, right? So we know that being slightly, the pH range of the body is very narrow. It's probably four tenths of a point, five tenths of a point, the pH of the blood.

1:38:55And the way that we become more alkaline contrary to popular belief is not by drinking alkaline water. That's one of the biggest marketing myths ever sold to the public. You cannot change the pH of the blood by changing the pH of the water that you put into the stomach because it's buffered. So alkaline water is bullshit? Well, I mean, it's good because it's filtered. But it's bullshit that it won't, that it will change the pH of your blood. That's complete nonsense. So I think the best kind of water you can put into the human body is hydrogen water by a landslide, right? I mean, if you're going to drink spring water, drink mountain valley, but if you, by the way, don't have any deal with mountain valley, you have no particular reason to push them.

1:39:32But if you can, hydrogen water by all of the clinical studies, it's probably 1400 published peer review clinical studies on hydrogen water, more than any other type of water on the planet. And, you know, there's a whole class of a bacteria in your gut called hydrofiles. You can actually increase the absorption of all of your nutrients. So I just want to get hydrogen water. I have a link to the one that I use on my Instagram, the name of it. But I think it's the echo, echo water filtration. So it's something that you have to do at home that converts your water to hydrogen water. Well, you can add hydrogen to your water when you're done.

1:40:11I actually have a little hydrogen bottle. I'll bring you one. And you fill it with, you know, your bottle water and you just hit a little button and it adds hydrogen ions to the water. I never travel and never go anywhere without it. So I got it with me in your studio here. And the benefits of hydrogen water are... So you put hydrogen ions into the water. So it not only feeds the hydrofiles in your bloodstream, but it will improve your... It will improve the absorption of nutrients and supplements in your stomach. It actually helps enzymes further break down. They complete what's called this lock -in -key method in your stomach.

1:40:50The studies on hydrogen water and neural inflammatory disease and chronic inflammation are astounding. I put them all on my Instagram, so people can actually just go and click through them and read the conclusion sections of these. But if I, again, could drink only one type of water, it would be hydrogenated water. You can't overdo it with hydrogen water either. The second of that would probably be spring water, like a mountain valley spring water. And then after that, I would, you know, look at the alkaline waters and some of these... Some of these other reverse osmosis. And so this hydrogen water thing, this is only something that you do with a process once you have spring water.

1:41:29This is not something you can buy already hydrogenated. You know, I have seen... I haven't personally seen the studies when there's a lot of hydrogen water companies out there and I don't have an opinion about them one way or another because I never actually tested them. So everything that I, like, speak about or plummogate, I've usually third party tested myself. And I'll experiment on myself too. So like, I'll go into a red light bed and say, okay, if I lay in this red light bed and it's supposed to release nitric oxide from my mitochondria and throw it into the serum, my blood, well then if it's actually working and it's increasing the nitric oxide in my blood, I should be able to test that.

1:42:07So I would get nitric oxide saliva test strips and I would put it in my mouth and then I would get... Before I got in the bed, and I would see that it was like a pale pinkish color. And then I would get in the bed for 20 minutes and about 10 minutes after I get in the bed, I'd test it again and see that it was like a dark blood red cavernet just showing that my nitric oxide level spiked. And I'm like, okay, now I can see that the claims that this was making is having a physiologic response because there's no way for my nitric oxide level to spike. I didn't supplement with it, I just laid in the bed.

1:42:36I do the same thing with, like, these PEMF mats, these pulse -electromagnetic field mats that run low -gouse current through the body. You know, supposedly what they will do is they'll change the surface polarity of your cell. So if you, like, were to prick your finger and put it on a slide and look at your blood under a microscope, you'd see that most of your red blood cells are kind of stuck together and clumped up. They're sort of traveling around the bloodstream impacts, almost like too many cars trying to take the same exit. But then when you run a low -gouse current through the body, like contacting the surface of the earth, when you're asking me what does grounding do, you contact the surface of the earth or lay on a PEMF mat.

1:43:16And when you're done, prick your blood again, put it back on the same slide, look at it under a microscope and you'll see all your red blood cells have separated. And they no longer can touch. Because on the surface of the red blood cell, you have a charge. And if the surface of cells have the same charge, they can't touch. As soon as they get opposite charges, they attract. Right? And wherever they attract and touch and clump up, you lose that surface area. So now waste elimination, detoxification, repair, all of these things are impeded because the cells are clumped up. If you just walked on the surface of the earth, you would see the changes, physiologic changes in your blood.

1:43:57Try it, don't take my word for it. You can get a microscope online for about 400 bucks. You get dark field, something called dark field. And you can put your blood on a slide and watch what happens after you've been sleeping all night before you go out and touch the surface of the earth and then prick your finger 10 minutes later after you come in. Or 10 minutes after you get off a PMF net. And what is more beneficial, PMF mat or the grounding of the earth? I think they're about equal. The problem is that most people just don't have the time or they'll wear with all the touch and surface of the earth.

1:44:25You know, they're in Michigan or Canada or it's dark when they leave in the morning, dark when they come home in the morning or they live in a condo high rise or they're in New York City. It's hard to find actual dirt, grass sand that you'd want to walk on without hyperderming needles and dogs. So, you know, I live in downtown Miami. And, you know, in the mornings, I would take my elevator down and walk across the street, take my shoes off. And I called it four corners. It was a little park across the right next to the American Airlines Arena downtown with a heat play. And I would just walk the four corners of that park.

1:44:58You know, in the morning with my shirt off, just getting sunlight and doing some breath work. I would go back inside to my mood, my emotional state, my energy, everything through the roof. And then take a cold shower. That's it. I mean, most people, you know, again, not the super ultra woke biohacker, but the basic humanity we have, you know, we have subscribed to the fact, or I've subscribed to the fact that aging is the aggressive pursuit of comfort. I really think aging is the aggressive pursuit of comfort to more aggressively pursue comfort the faster we age. And, you know, and so most people just don't want to wake up in the morning, expose their skin to sunlight, do a little breath work, ground touch the surface of the earth, and then take a cold shower.

1:45:44None of which would add a penny to their budget, and would absolutely change the trajectory of their life. And then as you get more money, then you can add a red light therapy bed, you can add a PMF mat, you can do a cold plunge, and start to really amp up the benefits of these things. And when you use a PMF mat, it has the same effect as grounding on the air. If you lose a low -gouse PMF mat, low -gouse current, it has the same effect as lying on the surface. Do you lay on it naked? No, you actually just put it, you put it underneath your, you put it on top of your mattress, it looks like a yoga mat.

1:46:19Okay. And so you plug it into the wall, you put it underneath your mattress, and then when you go to bed, you hit two buttons, and for 30 minutes, it will run a low -gouse current through your body. And just lay on it. You'll wake up alkaline every morning. Every morning that you wake up all of your, your blood cells will be repolarized. They'll all be slitting around in your bloodstream. You'll have all that surface area for waist elimination, for repair, for detoxification, for exchange with the serum of the blood. So healthy for you. And if you don't want to drop the money on a PMF mat, then wake up and take your shoes off and touch the surface of the earth.

1:46:52Right? I mean, I think if you look at some of the, you know, the ancestral books on mankind, you'll see that we were really designed to spend more than 85 % of our time outside. We spent 95 % of our time indoors right now. In fact, most people spend more than 97 % of their time indoors. They go from a covered house to a covered garage to a covered car to a covered office to a covered gym. We just don't expose our, you know, we say, well, grandma, don't go outside. It's too hot. Don't go outside. It's too cold. Just lay down. Just relax. Eat at the very first pang of hunger. This is collapsing all of our natural defense mechanisms.

1:47:32That's why things like cold water immersion that we don't want to adapt to, that shock the body, tap into all of these, you know, primal mechanisms to protect us. You know, we call it Hermesis, right? You know, the body gets stressed and it's strengthens. So we got to think of some forms of stress as strengthening the body, right? Like cold water immersion. Water is 29 times more thermogenic than air, right? So, you know, all about cold punches. But so water pulls heat out of the body at 29 times the rate of air. That's why you can die in 72 degree water, but you can't die in 72 degree air. But when you shock the body like that, you cause the liver to secrete cold shock proteins.

1:48:13You cause the activation of brown fat, you know, thermogenesis and contrary to popular belief, there is a cost to thermogenesis. There is a caloric cost to thermogenesis so it can actually improve weight loss if you don't increase your caloric intake. It actually helps improve insulin sensitivity. It reduces insulin. It reduces blood sugar. It actually can improve the sensitivity of your body to blood sugar. It causes a massive vasoconstriction. It forces blood to your core and up to your brain. I mean, you know, good you feel when you get out of a cold punch. It sucks going in. You feel fucking amazing going out.

1:48:50Yeah, I'm religious with that. I call it my drug of choice. I wasn't kid when you came in today and you were like, what's up bro, can I get you anything? I was like, I was going to ask for a cold punch. I wasn't fucking with you dude. I was like, where is the cold punch? It's out here. Yeah, all right. Well, I may ask if I could jump in when I leave. You certainly can. I got it. Yeah, I've gotten my friends to do it now. It's hilarious. Like they've never done it before. The first time they get it, they barely can do a minute. And now I've got a bunch of them doing three minutes. Yeah, you got the one that circulates while you're...

1:49:19Yeah, I have two different ones. I have the moroscow at home, which gets down to 33 degrees. And then I have the one here that's a little higher. It's in the low 40s. I think it's 43 degrees. But you could crank that pitch up like a raging river. That's the blue cube. You don't get any thermal layer at all. You just suck it the entire time. You just can't hide. You just suck. You just get in there. I actually like getting that little thermal layer. Yeah, thermal layer is nice. Because I just... The blue cube does not give you that thermal layer. But you have the option to lower it. It's like it's variable.

1:49:52Like you could crank it up to a raging river. Or you could have it just like a gentle stream. Okay. Yeah. That's a man's game with the raging river on it. Oh, it's a motherfucker. Yeah, that's a man's game. But I still think physically I feel cold. Colder in the moroscow. Just because the temperature is quite a bit colder. Yeah. You know, I haven't seen a lot of evidence that colder is better as long as better. You know, it sucks more. And that's why I like it. Oh, okay. Well, there is evidence that it sucks worse. Okay. It's the mind game. I like climbing and seeing all the ice and pushing the ice aside.

1:50:23I enjoy that. You do? Yeah, I do. How long does it take you to get to that place where you're like, all right, I'm all right. I do it so often. I do it every day. So for me, it is like brushing my teeth or taking a shower. It's not something I don't do. When do you do it? It depends. Most of the time I do it first thing in the morning. My regular routine is first thing I do is get in there and then work out. So I get in there and then I have a series of bodyweight routines that I do to heat my body back up. Simple stuff that I'm not going to get hurt with. I'll do 100 pushups and 100 bodyweight squats.

1:50:57And by the time I'm done with those, generally, I'm heated up. I do them in sets of 20. So I'll do 20 pushups, 20 bodyweight squats, 20 pushups, 20 bodyweight squats, then I take a little break, and then I do it again, and then I do it one more time. So it's about 10 minutes. Yes. 10 minutes roughly. And so at the end of 10 minutes, I'm kind of warm. I'm not sweating, but I'm kind of warmed up a little. And then I'll start my routine. So then I'll do whatever else I'm doing. If it's kettlebells, if it's, you know, whatever different type of routine that I have set for the day. I'm careful if I'm doing kickboxing.

1:51:33Like I don't, I let myself really warm up before I start blasting. Yeah, because I feel like, you know. Especially for likes. Yeah, you're so cold. I can't crack a sweat. Like it takes me, well, like when I do rounds in the bag, even if I do my bodyweight squats, my, my setups, my pushups, by the time I get to hitting the bag, I'm still not sweating. You know, because it's so fucking cold. Yeah. So then I will do like two rounds on the bag, and then by the end of two rounds, then I... Two easy rounds. Two rounds of like tapping. I'm tapping it. I'm moving constantly, but I'm just tapping it. I'm never just...

1:52:10I'm never like going crazy. But then the third round, I start ramping up the power. And so for the last seven rounds, it's assault. The last seven rounds, it's like it gets hard. Does it something you do by yourself just on the bag? About a trainer. So how long is your training routine taken? Generally two hours. A regular day for me is two hours. So... But it depends. One of the things I do is I use... When it comes to training like with weights and kettlebells, I treat kettlebells like it's a skill. And I think that is something that I learned from Pavel Tatsuleen and studying his strong first protocol.

1:52:45He advocates a long, long rest period in between workout sets and more repetitions in terms of volume by virtue of the fact they have larger rest periods. And a lot of people feel like they're being lazy when they do that because they're not pushing themselves. But I push myself doing other things. Right, right. So when I'm straight back... Right. So if I'm strength training, like the heaviest kettlebell, I occasionally lift a 90 pound kettlebell. I'll do my cleans and presses with a 90. But the vast majority of my work is warm -up sets are done with a 35. And that's generally like one arm swings both sides, 10 reps, two sets.

1:53:25Then I move into a 50 pound kettlebell, 10 reps, two sides. And then I move to 70. So you're doing single arm with 50 pounds? Yes. And then I do 70 with single arm. And then when I get to 70, now I'm moving into clean press and then I'm moving into windmills, and I'm moving into between the legs. All that is with 70s. And but I take breaks. So like when I do a set of, a set of clean presses with 10 reps, 70 pounds, I will wait five minutes before I do another set. Five solid minutes. I'll watch TV, I'll fuck around on my phone. And I feel like I'm being a lazy piece of shit. But I know I'm not, because I'm going to get those, I have a routine.

1:54:11So like I have a whiteboard. I'll ride it out. I take a photo on my phone with the whiteboard. So I know that I, you know. Who's programming that for you? You're doing it yourself. I do it myself. And so over time I've developed this where I know that if I do it this way, I get pretty significant strength gains. And so now when I go to things that I don't do, like bench press and things like that, I'm significantly stronger. I've never was before. But I'm not doing bench press. I don't ever do that. Wow. I don't do it. But I can bang out 225 for 15 reps. And I don't, it's not hard for me to do, because I do so much with all these other muscle groups with kettlebells.

1:54:48You know, are you fasted or are you? Yes. Okay. My first workout of the day is fasted. Okay. And you don't even take like an amino acid blender or anything. No, I don't take shit. Okay. But I do take alpha brain pre workout, which is got beta aline, B12, some caffeine, it's blocking. Woo! That sucks. Got a lot of weight. How do you take it? Is it a powder? Yeah, it's a powder that I mix into water. There's a question I forgot to ask earlier. With electrolytes and with this hydrogen water, is there any incompatibility? No. No, it's actually highly compatible. Okay. So electrolytes and hydrogen water, even amino acids and hydrogen water.

1:55:23And do you take those before you work out? Yeah. I work out fasted, but I work out fasted and I take amino acids. I take a full spectrum of amino acid blend. Because... Branch chains. Yeah. Not just branch chains. So the branch chains are three of the nine. You know, that's the loose, nice, loose, and valine. But the... But I think the branch chain of amino acid theory has really been, you know, debunked now that you just need to take branch chain of amino acids. BCAAs before work out. The old theory used to be that, well, those amino acids that are really metabolized at the muscle level, so they're not cleaved through the liver.

1:55:56But the truth is that you really need a full spectrum of amino acid. So you need all... Minimum all nine of the, you know, essential amino acids. You have all this stuff for sale in your site? Yeah. Okay. And then... About the place in order. Okay. So... Joe Rogan's becoming my client now. So when you take that stuff, you mix it with water. Do you... I just mix it with water, or I also take them in capsule form sometimes. I'll take five of them in a capsule form, or I'll just mix it with water. And I'm telling you, that's a game changer for your workout brother. Okay. Just try that, and it won't break your fast.

1:56:29I'm gonna try that. Now, the other thing is electrolytes. Like, what do you have specific electrolytes used? Do you use a brand? Sodium. Well, I have my own brand of electrolytes. You know, prior to that, I was using an element T. Yeah, I like that stuff. Yeah, I like that stuff too. Please, I'll provide V2. But now, liquid IV? Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, what's the cyanocobalmin? What we just talked about? The cyanobase V12. That's in liquid IV? Oh, no. Yeah. So, watch out. No. But hopefully, I'll switch that to methylcobalmin. So, I make a formulated a 10x health form of electrolytes, but high levels of sodium, magnesium, potassium.

1:57:11And contrary to popular belief, I mean, so many people are afraid of sodium. And we've seen blood work on thousands and thousands and thousands of people. And, you know, there have been clinical studies that show an inverse relationship between sodium and migraine headaches. Meaning, as sodium levels go down, the incidence of migraine headaches go up. As sodium levels go up, the incidence of migraine headaches go down. And by no means saying that all migraine headaches are caused by sodium, nor am I saying that everybody that has a sodium sensitivity should take sodium for a migraine headache.

1:57:43I'm well aware that sodium is implicated, cardiovascular conditions and blood pressure. However, when you do a blood test, and you see that your sodium levels are low, let's say, 134, 135, 136, 137, or 138 in that range on your blood test. And almost every blood test that has a comprehensive metabolic panel will give you the sodium level. If you are waking up three, four, five days a month with a headache, or you get regular migraine headaches, watch what happens when you start to add Celtic sea salt to your drinking water, or something like an electrolyte blend that I make or an LMNT to your morning routine, watch what happens to those headaches.

1:58:24They will eviscerate. And so, most of us are clinically deficient in sodium. There's this theory that sodium is very dehydrating, and nothing could be further from the truth. We are not hydrated when we have water in our blood. We're hydrated when we have water in our tissues. And what determines whether or not water leaves the blood and enters the tissue is the osmotic gradient and osmosis, right? So, if we are deficient in sodium, we have an imbalance in this gradient. And so, it's amazing what happens to performance and headaches in migraines when people just add a little bit of sodium to their drinking water.

1:59:09So, if you don't want to buy one of these packets, just get Celtic sea salt, which has all kinds of extra minerals in it, has none of the potential downside of heavy metals, like pink Himalayan sea salt dose. So, pink Himalayan sea salt is dangerous? Pink Himalayan sea salt is great, but I saw a study where they actually tested several different varieties of pink Himalayan sea salt, and they actually found mercury and heavy metals in a lot of them. They found heavy metals in the pink Himalayan sea salt, never in the Celtic salt. And how are they finding it, and why is it in there? I don't know how they're finding their whites in there.

1:59:45Like, I saw Paul Saladino posted something on the day that showed that half of the chocolate brands that I was eating were that heavy metals in our home. Oh, Jesus Christ. I was like, damn, Paul, what'd you do that? I mean, in the really good eco -friendly brands and human, which was the brand that I love, that really high levels of metal, and I was like, shit, how did these... I only eat that really, really high percentage cow cow ones once in a while, but they seem to have high amounts of heavy metals. The Celtic sea salt, which is inexpensive, is probably the best salt you can put in the body.

2:00:16By far. And why is it Celtic sea salt? Like, what is specific about that salt? Well, because of the mineral content in it, right? And there are 92 minerals that human beings need. There are three essential fatty acids that we need. There's nine essential amino acids that we need. There is no such thing, by the way, as an essential carbohydrate. I get into people about this all the time. Carbohydrates are necessary for life. And I'm like, well, then, name an essential carbohydrate, because it doesn't exist. We have a central fatty acids. We have a central amino acids. And we have a central nutrients.

2:00:51But carbohydrates are not necessarily necessary for life. I'm not saying everybody needs to be on a keto -diabendium. It means either, but they are not necessary for life. We can sustain very prolonged periods of time without carbohydrate intake. That's why when you choose your carbohydrate, you should choose them very wisely. Like, you know, berries, natural honey, things like that. So, what you did with DNA white, the first thing you did was you got them on a ketogenic diet. Yeah, I put them on what I called a prescription ketogenic diet, which meant that I wrote a diet right down to a grocery list, and said, Dana, if it's not on this list, you cannot eat it.

2:01:29You have zero leeway. We're going to take away all your free choice for 12 weeks, right? I mean, aside from water, if it's not on this list, here's the week one grocery list, you're going to go to the grocery store. You're going to buy this. You're going to make this week two. You're going to go to the grocery store and buy this and make that. And so, you know, you gave that to a chef. And then we used a very potent Pisces form of resveratrol. We started... What does that word Pisces? Pisces form of resveratrol. It's a special extraction method for resveratrol that hyper concentrates the resveratrol.

2:02:04Really, you know, resveratrol is kind of known for its, you know, effect on telomere lengthening, you know, on telomerase. So, telomeres are kind of a measure of your biological age. And... But Pisces eat resveratrol. Very specific. But spell that. P -I -C -I -E -D. Pisces eat. Pisces eat. Pisces eat. Yeah, resveratrol. Okay. I think I have a link to it on my Instagram as well. That damn it. iPhone. You try to change the autocorrection. Oh, yeah, yeah. Say it again. P -I -C -I -E -D. Pisces eat. Okay. Resverat... There you go. Pisces eat resveratrol. There it is. Look, reduced viability of tumor cells to the cell cycle or rest in apoptosis induction.

2:02:54With that Pisces eat resveratrol did not induce the apoptosis concentration. Hmm. Pisces eat resveratrol. Where would someone get resveratrol? What does it say there? I see a resveratrol. Showing higher scavenging activity against hydroxyl radicals. See. They both exhibited the capacity of scavenging hydroxyl radicals. So Pisces showed higher scavenging activity against hydroxyl radicals than resveratrol. And where would someone get that? I've got a link to the one that I take on my... You know, my Instagram if they want to... I put everything that I take on there and people can just go... And where do you get yours?

2:03:32I get it from vignarest virtual. And it's a... I actually had the CEO of the company and their lead... Their lead PhD on my podcast. He's a guy from Johns Hopkins. And it's astounding. Yeah. It is astounding the... The clinical outcomes that we see in patients that we put on this stuff. I mean, increased circulation in the brain. Renaled syndrome and circulation. And even peripheral neuropathies that are related to circulation seem to eviscerate. Are you taking this with food or no food? I take it on an empty stomach. Is that I supposed to take it or can you take it with food? You can take it with food.

2:04:17It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. So I put a note on a Pisces Respiratory. I'll put them on a... Because people are... He's like, tell me exactly what he did. You know, he's on hormone therapy. He's been very vocal about that. He's not on growth hormone. He's not on DECA. He's not on antivore. He's not on natural loan. He's not on anabolic steroids. You know, there's a lot of nonsense about that on the web too. And then he went on a strict ketogenic diet. He did get a red light therapy bed. He did get a PMF mat. He did start doing cold plunging. And he does use something called hypermax multi -step oxygen therapy.

2:04:52Again, all of which you can do for no cost just what we talked about earlier. And he got really regimented about it. He didn't drink. We cut all the white flour, white rice, white bread, white pasta, white flour completely out of his diet. And sugars of all kinds, which you can't have on a keto diet anyway. One of the interesting things about putting your body into a state of ketosis is that, and I'm kind of surprised that Paul Saladino doesn't talk about this because he's big. He's obviously the carnivore diet. But grass -fed meats and grass -fed animal products, eggs and dairy, when these fats are broken down and turned into water in the crebs cycle, what happens is it produces a type of water in the cell called deuterium depleted water.

2:05:41If you really want to blow your mind sometime, look up deuterium depleted water. It is astounding the number of pathologies and diseases that are linked to deuterium water. Deuterium water is, you know, water's two hydrogens in one oxygen. But when you actually have an extra neutron, which doesn't sound like a big deal, molecularly, when you have an extra neutron, what happens is when that water molecule enters the crebs cycle, it breaks the crebs cycle. It actually wrecks the mitochondrial metabolism. When you eat a diet high in grass -fed animal fats, eggs, dairy, fatty fish, the type of water that the body creates is called deuterium depleted water.

2:06:28It's light water. It is actually more efficient, doesn't break the mitochondria. Do you know that a human that our bodies produce about 100 gallons of intracellular water every day? And when I say that people freak out there, like that's impossible. I only drink a half a gallon of water. So how does my body produce a gallon of water? You produce water inside your cells the same way we produce it in space. You take two hydrogens, one oxygen, you put them together, you have a water molecule. You're not capable of drinking enough water in two weeks to power your mitochondria for 50 minutes. You have to create intracellular water.

2:07:02So we take these gases, we put them together, we create cellular water, and then we break it apart and inside of the crebs cycle. So when that water becomes heavy deuterium, some of the water that's entering that crebs cycle starts to break the crebs cycle and reduce its efficiency. When that water is light like when it's generated when you're in ketosis or from grass -fed animal fats, eggs, dairy, things like that, or even plant -based fats like shelled hemp seeds, that water is light and when it powers the mitochondria it doesn't break any of the crebs cycle. And deuterium depleto water is now being used in cancer treatments in all kinds of oncology treatments for difficult to treat cancers like glioblastomas and other things.

2:07:58So look up deuterium depleto water. You'll just be blown away by how much evidence there is for how healthy this type of light water is for us. You can also buy it and drink it, but it's retardedly expensive. You might as well have your body produce it by eating healthy saturated animal fats from grass -fed sources. So you put them on this prescribed ketogenic diet, and what were the foods? And so other than grass -fed. So he ate meat, fish, chicken, eggs, avocado, coconut oil, olive oil, nuts. Basically I said there are, there's going to be five oils in your kitchen, grass -fed butter or ghee butter, a tallow or coconut oil for cooking, period.

2:08:46So we only had a tallow, grass -fed butter, ghee butter or coconut oil, and those were for cooking. The only oil that he used at room temperature was olive oil. We didn't use that for cooking, but we used an extra virgin olive oil. So, so that we made sure that he didn't get into a dirty keto diet, right? Because there are a lot of fats and fried foods and seed oils that you could drink, you know, eat that would be keto, right? But they would, we would, I would call it dirty keto. And then we also put them on a peptide. At the time it was a growth hormone peptide. It's in Moorlin and Ipa Moorlin.

2:09:22One is a GHRP, growth hormone releasing peptide. The other one is a GHRH, growth hormone releasing hormone. We use these in combination to make sure that when you take this at night to try to capture that circadian pulse of growth hormone that you stimulate both the hypothalamus and the pituitary, just in the off chance that your pituitary had recently secreted growth hormone, we could actually override that negative feedback loop and make sure that every time that he took it, he got an excretion of nighttime growth hormone. Because I also wanted to deepen, you know, deepen a sleep. Then I went aggressively after the inflammation with one of the products I make myself, which is called 10x brain and immune boost.

2:10:03But I also put them on a misalized tumeric and corkumin drops. So these are nanoparticle tumeric and corkumin with biolalo that you put under the tongue that go right into the bloodstream and immediately knock down inflammation. For like people that have problems urinating because their prostate is swollen. A few drops of misalized tumeric and corkumin, that problem just, you know, we viscerate. So I was really aggressive after inflammation circulation. I didn't actually have them exercising intensely at first because, you know, with insulin resistance and being pre -diabetic and just two or three tens of a point away from being actually diabetic, with a triglyceride level at that life -threatening level and also having that abdominal adiposity and then very severe hypertension with this very elevated hyperhomocystinemia.

2:11:01Then I put them on a 10x multivitamin. It's called optimize. It's actually a vitamin I designed myself. It took me about two and a half years to get all the methylated nutrients into the right formulation so that I could address all of these genetic breaks that he had. One of which was particularly his inability to methylate homocystine. So I put them on a vitamin called 10x optimize that I formulated myself and then I got a trimethoglycein. I think I got that from life extension, but I got trimethoglycein. He took two capsules of trimethoglycein in the morning. And I'm telling you Joe, week over week over week, if you ask him, he will tell you every week my average blood pressure reading started to come down every week.

2:11:45Each week my sleep score started to marginally improve. I wasn't sleeping longer. I started sleeping more deeply. Every week my body fat percentage began to drop and I was muscle protecting him with a peptide so he wouldn't muscle waste. He would just fat waste because most people when they say I want to lose weight, they really mean I want to lose fat. They don't mean I just want to lose weight. This is the problem with ozemping and tears appetite and wagovi and a lot of these other other drugs is they don't put the patient on a peptide to protect the muscle. So a third of the weight that they lose is lean muscle mass.

2:12:18If we put them on a peptide with some of these weight loss drugs, it would protect their muscle and they'd have propensity to lose more fat. And they'd still get all the benefits of the blood sugar control and everything else. And week over week we used data. I pulled his blood 10 weeks later, his triglyceride levels were in the 300s. He was down over 25, 28 pounds. I think his blood pressure was already normalizing by week five my clinical team. Again, I'm not licensed practice medicine, but Dr. Sardar had titrated him down off of all of his cardiovascular medication. So he was completely off his cardiovascular medication.

2:12:58He was completely off of the blood thinner. He was off of the diuretic that he was on. He was off of one other medication that he was on for a week's taken. But he was completely off of all medications. Blood pressure was normal. He was down 48 pounds. He was sleeping the deepest he'd ever slept in his entire life. The whites of his eyes cleared up. His homocysteine had gone from in the 30s down to the single digits. He gone from being diabetic almost insulin dependent to now normal pathic blood sugar. He gone from hyper insulinemic to normal levels of blood sugar. His hemoglobin A1C had normalized the thyroid has stabilized.

2:13:42That was the other thing. I think he was on thyroid medication, thyroid has stabilized. It was astounding what happened to his blood work. And he and I actually went on to Instagram and he was like, man, you get so much hate online. I'm like, well, it's because I'm not a doctor. I don't tell people when doctor is like, but he's like, we should do a we should do a post and just throw my blood work out there. And let people try to poke holes in it because here's where we started. Here's where we ended. So we did it and we threw his blood work up on there. And we just we showed where does insulin start?

2:14:11Where did it end? Where does triglyceride start? Where did it end? If what you did to him was available as a pharmaceutical medication, it'd be the most popular thing available. Unbelievable. Yeah, if there was something that they sold from Pfizer that you can just inject into somebody that would provide those results. Holy shit, everybody be lined up to take it. Dude, and now he feels like he's 25 years old again. Yeah, he looks fantastic. Yeah, I mean, he looks he looks amazing. He's driving his staff up a wall. Yeah, it's pretty nuts. All that inflammation went down in his nasopharynx, too.

2:14:39He got off the CPAP machine. And he had tinnitus in his ear. He'd had tinnitus for decades. Yeah. And the tinnitus was gone. So no tinnitus, no sleep apnea, no cardiovascular medication. I'm actually very very close with his cardiothoracic surgeon now, Dr. Dandelaya from from C. Dr. Sinai. You know, I've worked on some other things together. You know, if his UFC medical director, Dr. David Sinai is part time joining our clinical team now because like all of these allopathic physicians have said, I mean, like this has really worked. I mean, when you have when you have data to show what works, not just the subjective data, oh, I look better, I feel better, I sleep better.

2:15:20Right. When you have real objective data, you're, you're almost an insulin dependent diabetic and now you have normal pathic blood sugar on your own. You had hyper triglyceridemia. Now it's normal. When your HDL cholesterol was floored out, now it's in the upper end of the range and your LDL cholesterol is normal. Like you, you can't fake those numbers. Right. You know, and the same thing happened with the thyroid because, you know, he thought he had hypothyroid, which a lot of people think they have. Because, you know, the thyroid produces these two hormones, right? It produces T4 and it produces T3.

2:15:53And the majority of the time when when hypothyroid is diagnosed, we diagnose it because people have low T3, right? But the little known fact about the thyroid is that it only produces 20 % of the T3 in your blood. So the question is, where does the other 80 % of thyroid hormone T3 come from? Because when it's low, we still Medicaid the thyroid. I mean, you want to talk about a pandemic. We have a pandemic in this country of holding organs responsible for crimes they're not committing and then pounding them with medication and and and chemicals. So if you look at the thyroid, and this happened in Daniel's case too, he had low T3.

2:16:28So, you know, again, the question is where does the rest of the T3 hormone come from? Well, it is methylated from T4. We take T4 and we when we break it down into T3 and this happens in the gut, right? So, low T3 is not usually a problem with the thyroid. It's usually a problem with methylation in the gut. And so, when he got on that 10X optimize, when he started taking the B complex and the specific form of B12, the trimethyl glycine and methylfolate, that's what he was on. It turned the methylation cycle back on. He started breaking T4 down into T3, then T3 hormone rose back into the normal range and he was like, holy shit dude, you fixed my thyroid and I go, no, no, I didn't fix your thyroid.

2:17:08I fixed your methylation in your gut, which occurs outside of the thyroid. Yes, you were on thyroid medication, but that organ was being held responsible for a crime that wasn't committing. So, we didn't actually fix the thyroid and there's millions of people listening to this podcast right now that have been diagnosed with hypothyroidism. That's me. Back into your, we should do that. Yeah, I want to do it. We're going to do the test. Okay. And I'll come back in a week and a half and I'll read the results and without knowing anything about you and it'll blow your mind when I can tell you about yourself, how you think, how you go to bed, how you wake up, what your short term recalls like, you know, what's going on in your blood work without seeing your blood work, you know, your family medical history, whether or not, or mother or father as hypertension or hypothyroid because we have just been fed this nonsense that so much disease and pathology is passed from generation to generation.

2:18:02And the sad thing is if I can get you to subscribe to the fact that you have a disease, I can get you to subscribe to a lifetime of medication. Right. Right. But if it's a nutrient deficiency, well, then I supplement a client into no longer being a client. Right. And that's why I want to spend a balance on my lifetime telling people like, how do you find the raw material that's missing in your body? How do you put it back and go on about your life? At least that is a starting point. Right. And it's astounding how many pathological conditions or conditions that we call consequences of aging. We are just accepting as consequences of aging, not realizing that they are nutrient deficiencies in the body.

2:18:43Well, listen, dude, this is what we're going to do. We're going to do that test on me. I'm buying one of those fucking light beds. Okay. I'm going to get getting these supplements. And we're going to see what's up. And then let's do come back on. I'd love it. We'll see what my results are and how much different things. Because I'm pretty fit. I'm pretty healthy. You're fit. I work out hard. I've no problem with energy. Right. I'm constantly going. I do a lot of stuff. But I would always like to improve. Yeah. And I'm never satisfied. Neither. If I'm in this state right now, and maybe there's a bunch of shit that I could fix, particularly I'm excited about this idea that hypothyroidism is something that could be fixed.

2:19:18Because I've always been told that it's not. That it's something that you just have. It's genetic. Someone else in your family has it. Yeah. You're fucked. Next time somebody tells you you have a genetically inherited condition. Look to doctor right in the eye and say, what gene did I inherit from my ancestor that causes this condition? Oh, it causes me conflict. Yeah, the last thing you want to do is just not go to that doctor. Yeah. That's one of the things that Dana said. He'll never go to a doctor ever again for general health after his experiences with you. Because it's just been so life changing.

2:19:47I mean, just unequivocally. I mean, if you just look at his results and me as a good friend of his, seeing him before, I was always kind of worried about him. He's always so stressed out. He never fucking sleeps. He's always going. And he, you know, he looked unhealthy. And now he looks fucking great. I know. He's ripped. He's got a six pack. He's got all this energy. And people like he paid that $5 millions of dollars. I'm like, I wish he paid millions of dollars. Well, I don't think, I think this information is super, super valuable. I think it's hard to digest all of it. So I'd encourage everybody to do what I didn't write a bunch of shit down.

2:20:21So we'll do this again. And when we do it again, we'll do it after I follow this protocol. And we'll see what's up. It's amazing. Gary, you're the fucking man. Thank you brother. Really, really appreciate it. I super appreciate you too. And tell everybody your website, social media, all that stuff we're to go to. Yeah. So you can find me on social media at Gary Brecker. It's just my first and last name. And, or you can go to theultimatehuman .com. This is my podcast, theultimatehuman .com. And on there, you can see the 10x health genetic test. All the supplements that I manufacture myself and get any of those supplements.

2:20:54You can even do the gene test from there. All right. Thank you very much, sir. Appreciate you. Awesome. Goodbye everybody. Stay healthy bitches. Stay healthy bitches.