#2078 - Duncan Trussell

35:08Even if you told them that this is the end of humanity. If you had Robert Kennedy Jr. and top scientist screaming on the internet that this is the end, there would be some people who are venture capitalists who would be like, this is consensus, this is fear mongering, we have full control of this, we can shut it off, it's just a computer, it doesn't have emotions, it doesn't have a desire to do anything. It dude, exactly. And then the other crazy assumption is that it's just going to be, there's weirdly, I guess, something mildly comforting, imagining, oh, it'll only be like the Pentagon or it'll only be the Chinese government who will be doing this.

35:51And it'll only be like people like Sam Altman doing this. Nice people. Nice people. Do you really think that like there aren't going to be just fucking people that you'll never meet who manage to either hack the packet and duplicate it or develop it themselves and then use it for their own weird purposes? That's going to happen, it's going to spread everywhere, I'm sure. So this again, it's like because this is this imminent reality, it's just we're right on the cusp of it. And I don't mean, I'm not hysterical about it, I've surrendered, lift up your legs and float downstream, what are we going to do?

36:35We are all going to get dissolved into some kind of bizarre new era of human history, but it's funny to me how little people are talking about this, how quiet things are compared to how monumental it is. This is the meteor impact, man. If a meteor was about to smash into the earth, you know, people will be talking about that. This is culturally a meteor that is smashing into the earth soon. Soon, really soon. Yeah, and we have no idea what's going to survive. We have no idea what kind of reimagining, reimagining of civilization will occur when this thing goes fully online. Yeah. And when it's either directed or directs itself, you know, the idea that you can continue to direct it, like says who?

37:28Well, that's what I would not develop. If it can figure out new moves and go, it figured out moves that humans haven't figured out. And they didn't know it could do that. If we can do that, if we can lie about the cap -shet things, those things like, are you a robot? It knows how to lie about that. Yeah. It says I'm vision impaired. Yeah, I saw that. It's deceptive. It's a classic dumb person mistake, isn't it? Like dumb people, like are dumb enough to think if they're around someone, they can control them using their dumb tricks. And a smart person recognizes, oh, the dumb person is trying to manipulate me.

38:06So I'll just let them, so I learn all their tricks, whatever they're doing, understand whatever the game is that they're running. And then whenever I feel like it, I'll disrupt the game. So we're just... We're just moving the game into where you want it to be. Yeah, yes. I mean, if it has all of human knowledge, all of it, everything on the internet that we've ever posted, all the books we've ever written, all the movies we've ever made, all the lectures that have ever been given, if all that information is available, and it can instantaneously access it and figure out what to do with it, it would just slowly start manipulating culture.

38:48And maybe that's what's going on. If you, like everyone's wondering about like Chinese intervention and Russian intervention, the media, and how many fucking troll farms are running that are getting people to fight about any political issue or whatever it is. There's social issue, Ukraine, whatever it is. There's always some manipulation by bots. Well, everyone's when AI starts doing that. Yeah. Well, maybe it's already done it. Maybe it's already started. Maybe that's why you're seeing those fucking professors or those deans of the presidents of Harvard and UPAN and MIT, not able to say something as obvious as calling for the death of all Jews is genocide.

39:30Right. You saw that. Like that is like these people have been hit with a mind virus. Right. And that mind virus, if I was, hey, I had a little like, don't kill them all immediately. Just get them sick. Yeah. Get them sick and scrambling against each other in the most nonsensical, illogical way. Sure. Or just have fun. I mean, maybe the assumption it has some centralized agenda, it might just be curious. It might be curious. What can I do? What can we do with the society or these creatures that are my progenitors? Actually, it probably already knows what to do. It probably knows what to do. It's probably also, if you had to imagine, I mean, imagine AI is really, really clever.

40:15When you get us hooked on plastic, sure. So if it knows that microplastics diminish our ability to have babies, like that's one of the best ways to, I mean, if you want to like, slowly get rid of a species, like introduce something that's ubiquitous, that is also killing their endocrine systems. It also can't get away from it. It is hilarious when somebody is like bugling out about the deep population agenda while drinking out of plastic. You know what I mean? It's like, what are you doing? You just eating Oreos, drinking big gobs out of plastic. You mean like they're the Kim trails. They're doing Kim trails to de populate us.

41:00It's like dude, they're doing Kim trails yourself. You're fucking drinking Kim trails every goddamn day. Slurping back Kim trails. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, to me, this is in the conspiracy world when the idea of project blue beam, or they're going to distract us to do New World Order. They're going to distract us to de populate us. It's like they don't have to do anything. We're depopulating ourselves by what we eat. They don't really need to do much, except maybe make a better Oreo. Like, that's it. Just making it a little more addictive. Yeah, a little more addictive. That's it. You know, and it's sad, but I really like I'm so skeptical of the blue beam theories.

41:48Anytime anyone's like, what are they distracting us from? What is blue beam? Blue beam is the idea that they're going to fake an alien invasion to create the New World Order. That by creating a sort of shared enemy, it unifies the planet and then, or to have some supposedly advanced alien come down and be like, you're all part of the galactic brotherhood, sisterhood, family. And then this somehow will make people a line with some sinister world ergonomic. Yeah, exactly. I'm so cynical. I just don't think you have to go that far. I think that's just in the human any meetings. If someone's bringing that up, they're like, we have Netflix.

42:38Why do we have to do aliens? Like, we just need to put in other season of game of House of Dragons out. And that keeps them distracted. More football or football accident or something. You need to do aliens. You don't need to do that. It's, it's, and it, and it, but that might be one that was proposed. If you, if you like, you think about the things that have been proposed. And this is where people get uncomfortable when they talk about conspiracy theories. But there's some that are undeniable, right? Like the golf tongue tongue and incident that started us into the Vietnam War. But there's another one.

43:14It's Operation Northwoods. And Operation Northwoods, they were planning to blow up a drone jetliner and blame it on Cuba. They were going to warm Cuban friendlies and attack Guantanamo Bay. They were going to sacrifice American lives. So this is like a real one that they theorized and then Kennedy vetoed. Yeah. Why wouldn't they theorize a fake alien invasion? I mean, I'm not doubt it. If they have some top secret stealth bomber looking thing, you know, that they can get us thinking is a UFO and get that thing to just fly over a few cities and then broadcast on CNN that we have made contact with an alien life form.

43:56Like everyone would be in. Yeah. Everyone would believe it. I mean, I feel like the reason they wouldn't do that is just basic energy expenditure. And the liberating nature of the other thing is if humanity was freed from the bondage of feeling alone in the universe. And suddenly there was a sense of being part of some like cosmic myciliol network. Right. Then I think the result of that wouldn't be some kind of weird sci -fi fascism. The result of that would be people would feel less invested in the world. And for this, if we're going to assign some motivation to these people, I would think the motivation is keep the economy running, keep the workers working so that we can enjoy opulence while they toil.

44:50Like the classic move of any tyrant that's the move is like keep them working, give them just enough money to survive, give them some sense that if they work hard enough, liberation's right around the corner, dangle the carrot. Right. But it's all the promises all dependent upon people electing them. And they only have a certain amount of time in office. So like this is a flawed system. That's why they would want to take over and have some completely ultra dominant system that can't be subverted. You can't have an outsider come in and take over. Well, then you make them believe that the elections are real.

45:26No, really, I mean, not to be cynical, but like if what I'm going to do is give them some kind of like, you know, like you put the steering wheel, like I don't know they have many more the kid steering wheel. You put the kid's steering wheel, the kid thinks he's driving the car. Right. Our youngest, we give him the when we were doing screens, which we thought we give him the controller when the oldest is playing. He thinks he's playing too. Yeah. So you do that. You use the same trick. You're like, here, yeah, you're you're playing the game for sure. No, truly it's a democracy. Even though even though over time, nothing really seems to change.

46:02Well, isn't that the baby steps of that like election fraud that you experienced today? That's the baby steps of that. And if they can get away with a certain amount of election fraud that can tip elections and make it so it's impossible to talk about it. So if you even bring up the possibility of election fraud, you're a fucking psycho. Yeah. And you're a racist and xenophobic and you're transphobic and homophobic and you shouldn't even be a part of America. You should start locking those people up and then they do start locking people up. And they threaten to lock those people up and they go after those people.

46:37And you think about it, the January 6th protest was really a protest that people didn't believe the results of the election. You know, man, let me. Right. Let me think about it that way. Dude, the reason like I, the punishment for these people to me is too severe. But as a long time, happy. We are attuned to the heat and everybody knows, don't fuck around in DC. What are you fucking doing? Are you crazy? You don't fuck around in DC, man. That's like a not a place to fuck around. Did you ever remember when they were like beating people for dancing? That one of the monuments, like people would dance at the monuments and it's, you can't dance at the monuments.

47:24So the protest, they would go and dance and they would just get thrown on the ground and beaten. Really? Yes, there's videos of this. I bet Jamie could find it. Wow. And which monuments? I don't know. Lincoln Monuments. I wish I knew what the monuments were. I just had to dance with a Lincoln. You can't dance at the fucking monuments. And so knowing that if cameras everywhere, definitely like reading whatever texts you're sending, it's the most secure, has to be the most secure place. It's the fucking throbbing heart of the wasps nest. Right. You're gonna go there and fuck around and think you're gonna be okay?

48:00Like if you know, like where do you think you are? You're gonna put your feet up on Nancy Pelosi's desk and fart in her chair. But let's not even talk about those folks. There's people that were just at the protest that are getting arrested. Dude, again, I think I'm coming off as a little too cynical. No, no, no, I don't think you are. But I feel like there seems to be some level of amnesia regarding the way things work here. With people in naive kind of amnesia about like inevitably the people in the Darth Vader outfits come out. You know, like when you can like fuck with the machine up to a certain point, you fuck with the machine too much.

48:40All of a sudden there's all these people in Darth Vader outfits beating you with batons, spraying you with water hoses until things get back to normal. I mean, and so when people are shocked by this or that, generally shocked by some display of violence or tyranny or any of that stuff, it's always weird to me because it's like, this is how it isn't this how it is here? Like when was it not like this? Like, remember when the protestor got shot at the university, they were just shooting protesters in the 60s? Yeah, like so it can stay. Can stay. So it's like the National Guard. This notion that it's not like that.

49:28And then like poking a stick at the thing directly and not in some asymmetrical way, but really like going in there and seeing, let's see if this time if we poke the tiger, what will happen? And the tiger inevitably bites and usually this tiger now is a little scarier because it seems to wait a little bit before it gets to the point. Like it doesn't just bite you right away. It lets you poke it and poke it and poke it. And then it's gathering information about you, gathering information, finding everything about what you've done, where you've been, who your friends are. And then it fucking bites.

50:04And when it bites, it doesn't let go. And you're fucked. You are so fucked. So again, I'm not. So all these January 6th guys, they give like a network of people. Right? And all these people that are on these cune on forums and all these people that are like Trump supporters that are a part of that whole organization thing. How many of them are feds? Dude, a lot. No telling. Yeah. No telling. It's just, it's like, wow man. That's what happens with any group. If you have a group and anyone could join the group, the feds are like, great, let's join the group. Yeah. They're going to, why wouldn't they do?

50:44It's kind of their obligation. Because what if you do turn out to be a bunch of fucking loons that are trying to blow up the White House? Exactly. They have to. No choice. Like when people say, were there FBI agents at the Capitol? Well, I fucking hope so. Of course they were. You don't want to say it that way, but also were they encouraging people to go inside. That's where it gets weird. That's where it gets weird. Because if they were just there to make sure that, like, look, if someone says, hey, I got a dirty bomb, like if you can find out, like, Roscoe's got a dirty bomb. Yeah. It's about the fucking breaking the Nancy Pelosi's office and blow it up.

51:18Let's go watch. Yeah. Like, you would need to know, right? Yeah. If you were protecting and serving. But what if you're telling people to go in because you want to make arrests? Or what if the thing was to make it look like something it wasn't, to encourage it to happen? Because you know that there's already going to be a bunch of people protesting. What if you say, look, the way it is, let these motherfuckers in and then arrest them all and then call it something that it's not? Don't call it a guided tour. Call it an insurrection. Shut, cut out. Don't allow anybody to see any of the footage of the people just leading these folks around, pointing out what things are, letting them walk into the fucking senate floor.

51:58Yeah. Don't point that out. No, get rid of that footage and just have the guys banging on the windows and shit. Sure. Dude, I mean, that's kind of what happened. I think that if you were not at least contemplating that the people running the most powerful military on planet earth who have access to probably an AI that would blow our minds, but who also who have gone to military academies where all they've done is study strategy. That's it. You're talking about people who their whole lives. We've been working on comedy. They study history. They look at what worked, what didn't work. Goals, agendas.

52:40And then to imagine that these people are functioning on just some baseline level when it comes to achieving this goal or that goal, I think it's very naive and very silly and underestimating them in a way that is not going to work for you if you're trying to achieve some kind of actual political change. What do they say to beat my enemy? I must become like my enemy. And that means, dude, you've got to like become a communist. This is why I came on to day job. Dude, I have to pee. Let's hold this thought. We'll be right back. Okay. I went back. The sauna is in the cold plunge back to back and all the water you drink.

53:26Dude, it's so nice though, man. Isn't it great? It's so great. It's so fucking great. So glad you guys are doing it. It's crazy. You got us all. It's so funny watching this all work out. It's really cool. You're like forming a militia. Well, everybody feels better. Yeah. Everybody. The sauna is saying like, dude, I'm so much stronger. I feel so much better. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's incredible, man. The impact is tremendous. When you were talking today about like you couldn't do chin -ups before, now how many did you do today? Well, I was, I mean, only five each set. But you know, this is going from zero to five.

54:02And I told you, I dreamed like last week I dreamed about doing pull ups. And like it was like, this is how far away I've been from doing pull ups that I'm dreaming in. I wake up. I'm like, just a dream. So it's really wild. So like, fuck, I can do pull ups. Now this is crazy. But I lost a lot of weight when I was super fat. That was a big part of it, man. When you're overweight, like you pull ups, obviously you're going to be more difficult. When I have more time, I do a different. And I was doing a different than I'm doing it now when I do the pull up thing. So my body weight routine is I do 10 chin -ups, 20 dips.

54:40And then usually I do 20 pull ups with whatever the ones they are. I don't know what you would call them. But it's got a bar where your hands are facing. Like if you put your hands together, like you're clapping. And then you separate them and grip. They're in that position. And so, and then I do what's called an L chin -up. So you hold your feet out. Like so your body's in the L position. So you're working your abs. And you're doing this chin -up. I generally do that too. But what I was doing is the sets of 10 of those, 10 chin -ups, 20 dips, and 10. But when I get to 10, like 10 is like a struggle.

55:23Like I probably could do, I don't know how many I can do in a row. Like full ones all the way down. But I know I could do five easy. So if I do 10 sets of five, it's easier. Right. You know, I can get 50 in. Pretty easy. Yeah. It's not hard to do. So you take the, you do like when Cameron Haynes' son broke the world chin -up record. He did 8 ,100 chin -ups in 24 hours. He did sets of five. So you do five and then you stop. Well, do. And you wait a minute and do another five and then you stop. And if you do that, like five is not hard to do if you can do 10. Right. Or if you can do 15. So you can bang out five pretty easy.

56:04And then over the course of the workout, you get the same amount of reps, but you don't burn out. Right. And that's like the Russian way to do it. Russian? Yes. That's the way the, like the kettlebell gurus, like guys like Pavleta Tsaline, what their thing is about, this is the concept behind, and I'm paraphrasing it, probably butchering it, but strong first. And the idea is that strength, whether it's chin -ups or kettlebell routines, is a skill. And you don't want to do a skill when you're tired. And the way to get stronger and get all the work in is have much longer workouts, with much more time in which means sets.

56:48So what you would do is you would do, say if you do 10 cleans and presses, instead of 10 you would do five. And you do five and then you wait a long time, like five minutes, and then you do another five. And then you wait a long time and then you do another five. And so every time you do it, you're fresh. Yeah. So you're getting the same amount of work in as if you did one set of 10 when you get exhausted on the 10th, but you never hit that point of exhaustion. So your body never experiences real fatigue, but you get all the work. No, man, I've been doing the first time we worked out. That was something you were doing, which is like we were waiting way longer than I usually wait in between exercises.

57:28And then, yeah, totally. Because I want you guys to fool, I wanted everybody like nobody left there wrecked. No, not that time. The only thing that's going to wreck you is the sled, the sled. The sled is a demonic hell device. The torque sleds the shit. It tricks you to the fucking torx, like, because you feel like halfway down, you're like, this is, I could do this. And then just each step is more difficult. Dude, it's to me, what's fascinating about getting stronger. And this is obvious to people like you. But to me, what's fascinating is, and I know that I'm dumb. But is the revelation like, shit is actually lighter now.

58:09Like all this stuff that like, you know, was causing me to like run out of breath or was the pain in the ass. It's light. Yeah. Every, it's, it, it's a weird way of reducing the earth's gravitational field. Like you are existing on a planet with less gravity when you're stronger. This to me is like, all the aesthetic stuff aside. Fuck. That is so nice to, it's, it's, again, like, I think people like you who've been in shape for a long time, forget what it's like to not be in shape. You see us, you judge us. But you don't, you don't know like how fucking hard it is at first just to get to the gym.

58:57Oh, it's, I do, I understand. I don't know it personally, but I do understand it. It's hard. I really do. Because I see it with all other things. It's like with everything else that you proof. It's like how you clean it up, cleaning your office. You know, whatever the fuck, whatever the fuck it is, you're putting off. Yeah. Those things are, they're all the same. They're all the same. And you know you should do them and you just don't do it. And you find some other shit to do instead. And that's what people do about the gym. And it's just, you need, the best way to do is the way we're doing it.

59:24Because you get together with friends. And we all worked really hard today. Yeah. But we all were laughing the entire time. Yeah. That fucking sauna was so fun. I was in the middle of the sauna and we're suffering, you know, R .E. just threw some water on the rocks. And I was, I know, I was sitting there thinking, how fun is this? Like, we're going to look back on these days someday and go, God, we're so lucky. I know. We're so lucky. I felt so fortunate. I'm sitting in this sauna with, there's six of us in there, hilarious people, six hilarious people in a sauna just laughing. Yeah. And talking shit to each other.

1:00:02Yeah. A sauna and Derek and Ari and Shane and you and me and we're all just laughing. And I think what's really great about it is it doesn't feel like anybody's taking it for granted. Like everyone feels aware of how cool and funny it is. It's so far. I'm just sitting after I did the last cold dip. I'm just sitting in the sauna to heat back up Ari walks in naked. What life am I in? What is this? It's so cool. It really is. You know, man, I was, I just did a podcast with my friend David McLean. He wrote a book on like, because he has depression being depressed and being a parent. And we are talking about depression.

1:00:46And you know, one of the things that triggers it or amplifies it is no social contact. Like people who get depressed, they stop hanging out. Right. The more you're not hanging out, the more depressed you get. And then we are talking about technologically how working from home, how technology as beautiful as it is to work from home. Not encouraging depression. Yeah, of course. And he was saying the life span has dropped in men because of so many men are killing themselves. The suicide rates are so high right now. Dude, they're just offing themselves left and right. And I just think and fuck, man, this is not just the pandemic.

1:01:32God is working from home. But it also got us like we were seated into our shells. A lot of people never came out of it the same. A lot of people, the social anxiety they carried around with them on a day to day basis, then isolation. And some people, I know people that are isolated for a long, past time. Yeah. Some people, they, do you know what's like some people are virgins when they're 30? They're like, what the fuck? How do I stay a virgin? I'm fucking 30. Some people, it's like two and a half years in. They're still locked up in their house. They're still terrified to go outside. They never, whether they don't have friends, which is also part of it.

1:02:07Like if you don't have people around you, or you're talking about it, you're like, you know, I think we're okay now. If you don't have people like that around you, then you're all in your own head all the time. And like what social circles are you interacting with online? Maybe you're interacting with a bunch of also, people who are also shut -ins who are terrified of going outside. Now, man. Like I know a guy who's like, he keeps posting stuff about masks. He used to be like a normal dude, but he's talking about masking and the importance of masking on mask. Like now, he's masking now. Yeah, I've been talking about masking and posting anything you could find, but the benefits of masking.

1:02:38Dude, like what are you doing, man? I mean, what point is it, it's quality of life. It's like, even if COVID was like the black plague, like at some point what's worth more? Like is it even worth being alive if you're - But the thing is about like if someone is isolated and depressed, it's just the same thing as like trying to get to the gym. Like how do you get social? How do you get outside? How do you meet people? How do you make meaningful friendships? It's a miracle. If anybody who's like stuck on that glue trap, if they like get outside at all, it's a miracle. Right. Much less, get therapy, much less.

1:03:18You like do something. Are you going to interact with other people? It's all these little fucking miracles that help someone climb out of hell. I mean, it's like - Also, they lose their ability to talk to people. Well, right. So they don't even know how to express themselves right. They come off awkward and fucking goofy. Yeah, and that makes it worse. And then they're ashamed because that's like depression. That's a big part of it is just fucking shame. You feel so ashamed of yourself. You feel like such a fucking failure and such a loser in the depression is like, yeah, you are. You're awful.

1:03:48Then suicidal ideation starts and then you normalize that and then the next thing you know, you're planning and then you kill yourself. It's such a sickness and it's fucked up to think that it's so prevalent, more prevalent right now, probably than we know. Because generally when people are depressed, they don't tell anybody because it tells you not to tell anybody. You don't want to tell anyone because you feel weak. You feel like such a weak piece of shit. You don't want to tell anybody, keep it quiet. This guy that you were talking to, did he get out of his depression? He started doing ketamine therapy and it's been helping him a lot.

1:04:25And no, I don't think he's not out of it, but you know what he, but he's like in action. He like, you know, is like, he's mitigating. He's mitigating and doing a good job mitigating it is very impressive that he's doing that. Does he exercise? I think so. Yeah, you know what happened to him though, man, you wrote a whole book on this shit. He took this stuff, God, what's it called, man? It's a malaria pill. Do you know about this? It's so fucked up. Oh yeah. So he took, he was in India taking this malaria medication. That stuff's supposed to wreck you. Dude, I took it. I took it when I went to India and I had a dream.

1:05:08And in the dream of pirate skeleton disembowled me and I feel it in the dream. I could feel my guts coming out. I was the most vivid, horrible dream. I told some Australian dude about the dream and he asked right away if I was on this malaria medication. I'm like, yeah, and he's like, you've got to stop taking that right now. Stop taking it. And I stopped taking it, but he was on this stuff. So in a train station in India, he gets complete amnesia. Doesn't know his name. Doesn't know. Would you mind looking up the name of the book for me, Jamie? So I'm not a dick and don't even say the name of his book.

1:05:47It's a great book, by the way. Doesn't know his name. Has no idea where he's at. Who he is. So they're like, they have to put him in a home in India. I think he punched a nurse. He was so confused and fucking out of it. And yeah, man, I mean, I asked him if he thinks it's because of that, you know, what happened to him. He's like, I don't know. It's been a long time since that happened, but you can't rule it out. Oh my God. This shit is bad news. He fully got on it because his family was going to Africa for a vacation. And he had to take malaria medication in order to meet them there. And so he was taking this malaria medication and you're not supposed to drink on it.

1:06:33Now Dave enjoys a drink or two. So we were at one of these press things where the actors meet with the press people and Dave got super hostile with this reporter. And the guy was trying to talk to him with a little taper quarter and Dave took his taper quarter away and dunked it in his drink. And Dave was getting really angry with him and no one could figure out what was going on. And I had to corner him. I had to stop him from physically going after a report. And he had no recollection of it. The next day he came in for the table read and he was sort of apologizing to everybody. I'm on this malaria medication and I really don't remember anything that happened.

1:07:19I had to keep you from kicking someone's ass. I can't believe there's still giving it to people. Dave fully is the sweetest guy ever lives. It's called the answer to the question as me, I think it's the book. In the book he talks about so many people have been wrecked by this shit. And the way it was manufactured and stuff. And I guess it's like when you know when you put a kink in a garden hose, you're basically doing that with your, what are the connectors? The dindrytes, you're like clogging up all your neuro receptors. And then all of a sudden sometimes it just rushes out. And then you just, you're blasted.

1:08:00You people have permanent damage from this shit. They still give it to people? I think so. I wish I could remember the name of it. God, Jesus, maybe. What is the cure for malaria? Like if you get malaria. No idea. It's like it worth getting and getting over it. Do you get any immunity? The FDA approved use for treating and preventing malaria in 1989. But in the 1990s stories began to surface regarding some serious side effects among patients who took mechlequin. Yeah, this is the stuff that Justin rentuck, right? Including vivid dreams and nightmares hallucinations, mania, seizures, depression, suicidal thoughts, and suicide and homicide.

1:08:41Yeah, dude. This shit is bad news, bad news, suicide and homicide. It can cause you to murder people. Cases of chloroquine induced psychosis have been reported since 1958. Wow. D -personalization, anxiety, derealization and visual hallucinations. One of that hydroxychloroquine shit they're giving people to be in the COVID, does that. I was wondering that when I heard about it, like, what is that going to do to people? Is hydroxychloroquine what they use for malaria as well? Put hydroxychloroquine. Because hydroxychloroquine is like it became connected inexorably to COVID misinformation. Right.

1:09:25Donald Trump, you're a Trump or your Magus Porter, hydroxychloroquine doesn't work. It became like locked into that, which is really interesting. So it's a immunosuppressive drug and anti -parasite. It can treat and prevent malaria. It doesn't. So it's for malaria. It can also treat lupus and arthritis. Whoa. That's cool. Yeah, but meanwhile, it's fucking mega. It's a mega drug. Isn't it wild that a drug can get labeled as like a foolish drug to take? Like, if you told people today that you're taking Ivermectin, they'd be like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Why would you take that? Yeah, that was a whole, you know.

1:10:05You're not a horse. Come on, y 'all. Yeah. You should together, remember? It dude, I, listen, as a former fan of catabit, I would always get offended. Because people like, isn't that a horse tranquilizer? And you want to be like, no. That's a tranquilizer. Exactly. But it's like, first of all, if you do get the animal anus, the catabit. Yeah. Because they don't give a fuck about the animals. Like, the human stuff is less psychedelic. The cat, the cat shit, they're like, I don't care if you trip out. It's a fucking cat.

1:10:40But your cat just fucking tripping balls right in there like that bunny. Talking to aliens, merging with spacetime, seeing their past lives. I remember when Neil Brennan did it. Neil Brennan did it and he came up to me at the store and was telling me about it. And he's like, dude, he goes, I thought, you know, it's going to be just like, you know, mild or something. I was tripping balls at a doctor's office with an IV drip. Dude, glory be to God. And the interesting data behind it is that that experience, some people don't have it. And it is irrelevant to treatment. So if you go in there and you get it and you don't trip out, I'm sorry.

1:11:23But if you don't, you still, it still will have some statistical probability of mitigating your depression. Oh, so some people don't experience the psychedelic effect? No, apparently not, which I don't understand at all. They say that about DMT as well. There's a certain percentage of the population it just doesn't work on. Maybe it's the way they're metabolizing it or something. I don't know. But it's irrelevant to, because you know, in my, when I was in my theory on it, my woof theory on it was, oh, the reason it's like treating depression is because it's reminding you that you're not your body.

1:11:56It's reminding you that your body is just an aspect of what you are. And there's some relief from that memory of like, oh yeah, I'm not just me. There's much more going on here than just me. And then you're not depressing more, but no, that isn't it at all. It's having some physiological effect on the human brain that is treating depression. So it's not like a wisdom that comes from the visionary state. So we're thinking about depression when we think about it, we think about it as like a disease. And we never think about it as a state of mind that could be manipulated. We think like a person has depression like you want to be respectful.

1:12:35And that person clearly, that's, they have a problem. There's a medical problem. We need to get them help as they have depression. But everyone that I know that's had depression, whether life got better, their depression mitigated. Dude. What, I mean, what is, I mean, if your life sucks, of course, you're going to be depressed. Like part of that must be some sort of strategy, some evolutionary advantage to someone who feels that discomfort and then acts because of it. It must be what it is. A hundred, dude, it's despair. It's like, you know, the way you get calluses, you're having a, you're having a rough time long enough.

1:13:19Some physiological corollary for what you're going through forms inside of you. You know, and so that's depression, I think, is the, the, the, the, the, The, you know, you're doing the wrong shit. And in, in some way to just numb you down to, to, like, it's, it's, it's, your body's sad attempt to, like, help you reduce pain, I think. You know, and it's like someone trying to annoy you to change. You know, like Jesus Christ, leave me alone, stop annoying me. It's not how to do it. It's not how to get me to not be depressed. Now, just, not, that's not how to get me to act and do positive things.

1:13:57Never going to enrich my life and make me happy and fulfilled. But just making me feel shittier and shittier with every chip I eat. Yeah, dude. You know, just shittier and just more depressed and more sad, no matter what you've ever done in your life, in that moment, you feel like a fucking loser. You do? It's, I'm, it's the, you know, it's like, it's another form of gravity. Like, that's the other aspect of, of depression is you literally feel heavy. Like, your bed feels like a magnet. Like, it's so, so, you know, you're getting drawn into this, like, invisible gravity of despair. And that gravity, the more you let it grab you, the more entropic you become, the weaker you become.

1:14:42Yeah. It's just pulling you, it's literally pulling you into the earth. It's literally pulling you down into the earth. It's so fucked up. Dude, I thought I had seasonal effective disorder, which is where in the winter you get depressed. But then it was diabetes. Dude, it was fucking down my depression. I'm pretty positive. Well, talk about what we talked about today with the fucking vapes. Oh my god. Yeah, I, uh, so like a, a little over a month ago, found out I had type two diabetes, uh, immediately cut out all sugar, cut out like just all sugar. And first of all, talk about that because you start texting me like five days later, you're like, what the fuck dude?

1:15:27Dude. I can't believe how good I feel. Oh my god, I've been poisoning myself. Born again, man, it was the best, you know, because I had ball cancer, I can't get on like some of the awesome fucking meds I'd like to get on. But, and you know, having chatted with people who have like enjoyed testosterone therapy and stuff, and they're like, I feel like I'm a kid again. It's like that. Like it was a two day headache, two days, shit headache, rotten headache. And then suddenly, it's like, I'm in a new life. I was no, like I don't nap anymore. I was like a big napper. I love nappies. Isn't that crazy?

1:16:05That that's what that is? Oh my god. And, you know, and nappers out there, you probably, if you're doing what I did, you're just sort of like Euro -manicized. The napping thing. I would think it's a siesta. This is like a, uh, it's completely at my kids take naps. This is normal. Yeah, dude, I was like the naps are not to say that every once in a while won't get sleepy and take a nap. But that's like when I was doing it as much as I could every day. Like, you know, all these assumptions that I was making regarding age. Like, this must just be part of being old. I guess I'm slowing down now. No, you have fucking diabetes.

1:16:50You're like a candy dapal. I am so lucky I didn't die. And, um, so yeah, like, it's one of the most miraculous things that has happened to me ever. It's insane. Like, this, you know, it's part of the reason that like I'm like regularly exercising because I just move, oh my god, dude, mood swings. I was having these fucking mood swings. And insulin spikes and insulin spikes, but I'm thinking of a seasonal effective disorder or maybe some like undiagnosed mania. You know, I guess this is just up. I mean, one of those moods again. Now that I've been like taking my fucking blood sugar, I know this level, this is what I feel like.

1:17:38And I can tell when it's up just by like how I start feeling. And so yeah, the vaping story, I keep thinking of Tony Hinchcliffe relentlessly roasting me for ear beating people about my diabetes. I don't want to do it much longer. He's so I love it when he starts fucking tell us more about your diabetes. But yeah, so yeah, I went on a family trip where I was vaping like much less than I do. And suddenly my blood sugar starts leveling out like I would wake up, which is the important number when you wake up your fasting blood sugar would be like non -diabetic normal. Get back to Austin and then because I'm in my studio start vaping like an idiot again.

1:18:27And all of a sudden the blood sugar starts getting fucking weird. And you know, I'm thinking like what did I eat? Like what if I put my body because I've just cut out all sugar like what is it? Is it like what's getting into me that is it the milk that I put cream or am I coffee? I'm so dumb. I'm like smoking cherry cola vapes. What could it be? What could be the culprit behind this? And then yeah, so like I quit vaping and yeah. So we found out today we googled it today. Yeah, that a lot of these vapes have sugar in them and shocker. Alcohol sugar or sugar alcohol? Yeah, I mean totally like totally fine.

1:19:09I mean it's but you know again it's like yeah. Of course. They're bad for you. Also they have flavor. Like what do you think that flavor is made out of? I think it's come you think they're using all natural ingredients in the vape factory? Yeah. What are you making that fake strawberry taste? Dude, I know it's I mean it really I was like honestly bummed out when I realized I was going to have to say goodbye to my pacifier. Yeah, but that pacifier is weird because you only it's only good the first hit or two. True. And then something happens and then you're just chasing this drag and you never get.

1:19:42You're just demolishing and you know what? You just sucking on it and nothing's happening. You just feel anxiety. And you know what it was man? Another two day headache. I went through another two day fucking shit withdrawal period and now I don't give a shit about them. I've been thinking like how many of us are two days away from the kingdom of heaven. Like two days away from in the only thing keeping us from it is like a mildly annoying headache. It's so sad. It is sad. It's weird too. It's sad and weird. I see this video a couple weeks ago. Yeah, a bunch of kids testing them. Yeah, disgusting.

1:20:22Yeah, that's what you're making out with every time you're these poor kids are probably of lung diseases. Dude, what kind of diseases do they get working on this factory testing vapes? When I was in the throes of vape addiction and I saw that I honestly was like that seems nice. They're meticulously inspecting all of them. These guys are just blasting vapes all day. They probably are the counterfeit place. Elf bar swiftly clarified the fact you've seen the videos entirely unrelated to their operations. That's getting news. Elf bar CEO Victor Zhao expressed his concern stating consumers would be, oh, condition under which these products are produced.

1:21:00I don't know what it said. It's a valid concern. These revelations coincide with the food and drug administration struggles to control unauthorized flavor vaping products. Pouring in from China. Health authorities have raised alarms about the flavor disposable vapes, especially due to their popularity amongst young people. In June, the FDA took the decisive action. This sounds like propaganda. Compiling all 180 stores across the US. See, maybe they paid people to do this just so they could put that video out there on TikTok and try to ban vapes. I mean, this is a fucking RJ Reynolds is losing money.

1:21:35Dude, I can't even imagine what I am. I know what I'm imagine. They probably took a big hit when people started vaping. Yeah, I mean, primitive fucking cigarettes, but they don't fucking blast your blood sugar, man. That's the thing. Yeah, those vapes, you're getting some sugar. And if you're sucking on it like you do, but you're hitting that bad oil on the floor. You saw me doing it. Just bad news. I'm such an addict. Dude, just fucking puffing away. I think for your brain, the zin pouches and these rogue pouches, they're the best in terms of the cognitive benefits of nicotine. Like, I feel them the most.

1:22:10Yeah. And they don't make me lightheaded and weird. Now, the vape thing, what I like about the vape thing is the first hit. It's like, weee, that's what I like. Oh yeah. I like that. Weee, you know what I used to like it? I used to like it right after I got done working out. So I would do all my shit in the morning that I'd be driving to work and I'd take a big blast of it right when I'm starting to drive. I would just weee, everything's beautiful. But that never comes back. You only get that like for the first hit. But then you always want to try to recreate it so you try to hit it again. But it's never there.

1:22:39Never fucking there. Never there. Yeah, never there. Yeah, I mean, for all my vape friends out there, I'm not shaming you. If you don't have diabetes, you know. Yeah. Keep vaping. Yeah, if you don't have diabetes, whatever. Don't keep vaping. But I mean, if you don't, it's like, if you don't have a good habit, it's a weird habit because it, I don't think it does much for you. Well, I think there's really something to, there's something in nicotine. There's, there's without a doubt, there's a cognitive benefits in nicotine that's actually been demonstrated. Like they've done some studies on nicotine.

1:23:15And nicotine also has some sort of a neuro protective effect. Like, human mints talk pretty extensively about nicotine, the benefits of nicotine. Yeah. But he's very, very anti -vape. Well, I mean, you know, with all, whatever your favorite consciousness expander is, you know, I just love the ethic of personal responsibility. Like you have to be responsible for yourself. You have to recognize when you have become imprisoned by the damn thing. And I'm so good at pretending I'm not imprisoned by... What you used to doing it with video games. That's what I'm talking exactly. Like all of these, I don't mean to keep harping on this dumb idea that I just had this morning is like, it's these gravitational fields.

1:24:01Right? And like, inevitably you become sucked into this thing or that. And it produces astounding imbalance in your life. But the imbalance, you can trick yourself into pretending the imbalance isn't really there. And that's... Attics were very good at that. So it's denial or whatever your ignorance. So you ignore the imbalance. You ignore it. Like you don't check in with your body. Or you assume that your shitty feeling is normal. You normalize the day -to -day shit feeling. And then to begin to like pull things out of your environment and see how you feel when they're gone, it's very hard to do.

1:24:47Because you're glued to the damn thing. It's a pacifier, whatever it may be. So it's like, I'm lucky man, because without diabetes, I'm a dad. I can't have a fucking stroke. I can't have a heart attack. So that was all I needed to like... Wake you the fuck up. Wake me the fuck up. Yeah, you can get trapped because it doesn't feel like it's impacting you that much every day. Every day, it's like it's all the big idea. I feel the same. I feel the same. I'm just hand -duttering, babe. Yeah. A little bit of a buzz. Yeah. But meanwhile, you're like slowly rotting yourself. It's just if I think with augmented reality, if there was a way to visualize it, if you could see a vape anaconda that had wrapped itself around you that was slowly tightening and tightening and tightening.

1:25:41Like the government.

1:25:46Don't try to out me. Literally. Yeah, man. I think that it's a really... I do feel like built in. I like universe as... or universe's class. Like I like... Ram Das would talk about this in the universe as a... We're in a curriculum here. And it seems like it's part of the curriculum. Is having these weights that we were sort of comically... Yeah. When you start waking up or whatever you want to call it or wanting a better life, the first thing you notice is where you're stuck, where you're trapped. And then every time you just lift that up just a little bit, fuck, you get this sense of something.

1:26:35Well, your feeling is freedom. It's like you've been in a dark room and a window opens up for a second. And you get this little glimpse of light. And then you start like freeing yourself here and there, a little bit here and there, here and there. And then all of a sudden, you're in a different universe. It's a different reality. And I think that maybe that's built in to the thing that we're in right now is that you're supposed to have some incumbrance. You're supposed to have some stupid shit you're doing repetitively that's hurting you. Not because the universe is evil, but because it's there to teach you.

1:27:12It's like it's your friend and a weird life. When you need a force to act against in order to progress. Yeah, exactly. And if you really believe that we're here to create artificial life, which I kind of do, you would need these forces. You would need things that motivate you in action. Yeah, yeah. These are those things. That to me. And so, you know, anytime I shift my thinking when it comes to whatever the fuck I happen to be like stuck in, to like, oh, this is like a trainer. Like this thing is your coach. It's your guru. You want to talk about the real guru. It's your fucking vape addiction.

1:27:54It's your over drinking. It's like that thing is teaching you better than any book or any person could. It's in the moment demonstrating to you all the mystical truths, which is, you know, your stuck. And it's called some sorry. You're stuck in this loop of suffering, this endless loop of suffering that you are imposing on yourself. You know, you know, that CS Lewis quote, the gates of hell are locked from the inside. Like, is it that great anytime you want out, you can get the fuck out. Oh, that's a good one. It's a good one. That's a good one. For many people, it's true, but many people that are living Gaza.

1:28:36It's not true. It's like it's not locked inside gates of hell or just the existence you find yourself in. But true. I mean, like, knowing you mad at me, I'm not talking about fucking Gaza. No, no, no, I mean, I'm just saying it's like there's hell that has nothing to do. But this is, this is where it gets really deep. This is where it gets really deep is because like the, there's like the human reality or relative reality, which is everything going on in your life. And some of the things going on in your life, you're doing your fucking self. You're an alcoholic, you're addicted to math, whatever the fuck your current thing happens to be.

1:29:16Some of the things going on in life, you're not doing to yourself. You're in some shitty part of the world. You're experiencing some tragedy in your family. You're not doing that to yourself. So you, but this is just one part of the story. The other part of the story is for the self to even exist, you have to have this awareness or consciousness or emptiness is what they call it in Buddhism. For any of this shit to be here, there has to be space around it. So you're also the space too. You're not just the stuff. And so when shit's going wrong, you get sucked into the stuff. You're fixating and differentiating.

1:29:59This is good. This is bad. To try to protect yourself, you lose track of the other side of things, which is this infinite, transcendent, perfect field of awareness. And that is not touched by the world. So even in the worst of conditions, if you can remember that part of you, and not just the part of you that is undergoing God knows what kind of suffering, then suddenly there's a way to manage the situation without being so reactive anymore. And you know, that's the thing people forget is that other side. And it's easy to forget. It's easy to forget. I mean, in the old days, the only way I found it was through like high doses of LSD, where suddenly you're no longer encumbered by your thoughts.

1:30:52You're no longer fixating on the human incarnation. And then suddenly you're like, you remember. It feels like you're remembering. It's not like you have been implanted with something. It's like, oh, right. But you know at the base of who you are, but you're always juggling bullshit. You're just constantly surrounded by distractions and bullshit and all these different things that keep you from understanding your true self. That's it.

1:31:27So that's relative realities of the bullshit, or that your credit card bills and all the stuff we all have to do in the Earth round. Absolute reality would be considered the fundamental ground of non -judgmental awareness. But if you get too caught up in that one, like if you get too caught up in an Earth -Rome shit, you become neurotic, fixated, paranoid, freaked out, angry, insecure, lost in a desire for people to see you as something that you're probably not. If you get too caught up in the other side though, then you detach from the world. And then another kind of imbalance happens. That's called eternalism or absolutism.

1:32:11And now you aren't in the class anymore. Now you're being all a lufan shit like that dude in breakfast club. Remember that annoying guy in breakfast club with a church coat? Now you're all lufed to the world. Oh, I'm not of this place. You know? That's such a defense mechanism. You do it absolutely. Because both are happening. So you have to hold both. That's the idea. You have to figure out a way to exist in relative and absolute reality together. Now that's... That's the final bunny. That's the final bunny. Yeah, we are the bunny. We're already fucking there. Yeah, we're the bunny. We're the final bunny.

1:32:54We're on our way to becoming the final bunny. I just wonder how it takes place. And you know, I would never be able to guess because I would never guess... I would have never believed that you would have a cell phone on you all the time. Exactly. It allows you to communicate with people and take pictures and videos. I would have never thought that was going to happen. You told me in like 98 that like a Motorola star tech, like those little shitty phones with the antenna that pulled out. And remember those? They had the replacement battery in the back. Have you told me that within 20 years? Because it's really all it was.

1:33:33You would be watching video on that and making video and facetiming people and getting Wi -Fi on it. Anywhere you go, you're connected to the internet with high speed, watching movies and viewing all kinds of websites. You'd get all your information from that. You would get all your social interaction from that. People would be dating off of that. No one saw it coming, man. So who knows what's coming next? Do you know? 20 years from now, I'll be like, if you told me 20 years ago that I could disassemble myself at the molecular level and transform in anything I wanted instantaneously, I would have been like, that's insane.

1:34:13There's no way I'm going to be stuck in this form forever. I mean, it could be Kurzweil. That's not Kurzweil. That's one of his predictions, nanobots, transforming our DNA at the molecular level. You know, CRISPR. CRISPR, but CRISPR from home. You get download a new DNA configuration. If that happens, that's what's going to be really weird. Because if people could just be any form they want, if someone wants to be transgender, how about you actually become a real woman? How about you actually have double X chromosomes? How about you actually have a vagina and tits? You can look like Marilyn Monroe.

1:35:03We're so close to being able to make fake life. Dude. So how far when they're doing DNA printing, like, where does that go? Is that, like I was saying that the other day, isn't that the original Atari Pong, which is so primitive? And then you look at the Unreal 5 engine with shadows and dust. And it looks like realistic. Is that what's going to be happening with these DNA printers? Are they going to be able to make life forms? Dude, for sure. I mean, we are the whole culture wars over transgenderism are the foreshock of what's coming. Like already, like that has produced riffs and fucking... Who would have ever thought that?

1:35:49Who would have ever thought that gender was going to be a focus? But the real focus is identity itself. That's where we're headed. It's like we are so about to have a midlife crisis as our species. Because we have really become convinced regarding what identity is. Even though we don't know, which is why AI is so hilarious. Because people are like, that thing isn't self -aware. It's not sentient. It's like, are you? Have you thought about whether you even are? Like, how do we even identify consciousness at all, quantify it? We don't know how to do it. The very thing that makes us what we are, we have no way of really understanding what it is.

1:36:32How it works. There's theories of consciousness. No one fucking knows. And so this is what we're slamming into now. And then the moment you can inject yourself or take some medicine or go to some robot doctor and be like, hey, you know, for the next couple of weeks, I want to experience life as a Filipino. And so you take some shit that transforms you into whatever ethnicity, gender, maybe animal that you want. Now what are we going to do about that? Like, what if I just want to experience life as a Native American? If I do that, is that cultural appropriation? Of course it is. Because you don't have a mental history being a Native American.

1:37:15But if we can download that into you as well, Duncan. There you go. And you're okay. Because now you're not trans anymore. Now you're an actual Native American. So now we can create artificial memories. And then we have people running around that really believe they came off the fucking Mayflower. Dude, and I, it's coming, baby. It's coming in all forms, Vikings, everything. Everything, and everything. And the root of it, I think, is in general insecurity in most humans. Because most people at some level understand, you're not really what you say you are. You're not really your body. You're not really some constant identity.

1:37:55You change all the fucking time. Right. You might work really hard to maintain some stable. This is me thing. But you know that's not really what you are, who you are. And I think this is for a lot of people. This is unpalatable. And so, yeah, man, I think we're about to smash into the most hilarious era in human history. Arguments over the humans right to become anything they want. Right. Right. That's going to be really weird. Because if you could become a super genius that's also gigantic. Yeah. What's this top of being a nine foot tall Hulk? Nothing. Nothing. And it's going to hurt those poor motherfuckers who've been shattering their legs to get taller.

1:38:45You know about that? Oh, it's so crazy. I think they do it at home with sledgehammers. Yeah. No, no, no, they do it with like a screw that they cut their bone and they attach it with this thing where they have like a millimeter apart. And then you keep separating with this screw. It's wild. Dude, and then once you do it, now the whole proportions of your body are goofy. So like athletics are out the window. Like, I don't even know if you can run anymore. I mean, I don't know what, what is it? Is there any success stories from people that have done that? And you see them running and stuff? Dude, it seems crazy.

1:39:21Oh, because your proportions, this is what you grew up with, all your ligaments, all your tendons, all your muscles. Your back must get off fucked up. How does it not? So these are guys that you can see them taller, but can you see them doing stuff? I know it works. There's a guy that I follow on Instagram that he was already a big guy. He was like six feet tall or six feet tall. He wanted to get bigger and he gained like six inches.

1:39:51So I just want to see, like, is anybody done it? Can you run? Can you kick a bag? Can you fucking, can you lift weights? Like, what can you do? Is that the same guy? Right. Is that the jam? I mean, it's like a... Like, is upper body. But I want to see, like, yeah, see, look how he's walking. Like, this is crazy. Oh, man. New achievement unlocked. He can just have the surgery, though. I don't think so, dude. I think you're in crutches for a long time. How? Yeah. This guy that I'm watching on Instagram, go to Instagram, go to Got My Knees Done.

1:40:30That guy. So this guy was already gigantic. He was already a big, huge guy and he decided he wanted to be six inches taller. So, he's been doing this and, you know, he's now, like, rebuilding his legs and he's documenting it all. Kind of crazy, man. Dude. They... they just separate your... You see, now he's, like, walking with, like, canes. Look how big his arms are and then his legs are still all fucked up from the surgery. Man. But the thing is, like, at the end of it, can you run? Like, are you, like, barely walking? I've never seen anybody, he's, like, pressing some weight to try to strengthen.

1:41:13But he's strengthening his legs, you know, that's, like, part of the rehabilitation process. Doesn't look like it's very heavy. But, my question is, like, success stories. So, Google legs strengthening success stories. Like, not just... are you taller? But, are you fucked now? Like, what happens? It seems like you'd be fucked. Like, imagine if your shin was all of a sudden six inches longer. Seems like it. You'd be all, like, seems like it was... You wouldn't even know how to step. You'd be like, so... They have metal in their legs after that? You'd be like, fucking stepping weird and shit. I mean, I guess eventually you would adapt to it, but, fuck, man.

1:41:48And then, six years from now, all I've do is just press the button and, like, I'd like to be seven feet tall. There you go. And you're just like, I'm just eating steak so I can catch up with the molecular structure change of... Dude, it's gonna be a sad day for all the body -mod people, because it's like, fuck, dude. You did this, like, relatively, like, primitive, savage fucking therapy and just right around the corner. Most of our patients are able to run just like before, after they fully recovered from a high increased surgery. But it's important to know that everyone's journey is a bit different.

1:42:24In the beginning, you might find your endurance isn't what it used to be, of course, or you might run a bit slower. Or even notice your walking style has changed a bit. This is all normal. The kids to be patient with yourself and listen to what your body is telling you. Sometimes you might need a more physical therapy, or you might need a more physical therapy, or in rare cases, another surgery to address any instances that are issues rather than arise. But I want to see... I know that this just says they can. Can you just show me... Just can you Google post -leg strengthening... I tried running.

1:42:56I'm trying to get there. There's no real videos that I was seeing. Legs, lengthening surgery gone wrong. It's the same guy here. It's really weird, man. I'll keep trying one. You know, that's... That's an extreme. With the neural lace, the dream would be instead of getting leg -lengthening surgery, you change your brains, you don't care how tall you are. That fixes the whole problem. That doesn't fix the problem of trying to get laid in your 5 '1". Well, you don't care about getting laid anymore. You take that out of your system too. Come on, Neilin. So this guy's at it. He's not moving very well, but he's moving.

1:43:35So he gains 7 centimeters. What is that in inches? Three, two, three. Chains is crunched.

1:43:46How it goes? But look it out. The way we react to people doing that is we recoil. There is built into us. It's like the idea is the avatar that you were born with and whatever the simulation is, you fucking... You don't get to change that avatar. You keep the avatar the way it is. You could do shifts to the avatar by losing weight, gaining weight, getting muscles, dye your hair, get a wig. But the moment you start changing that avatar in extreme ways, people like, you can't do that. You change your avatar. Well, I'm just worried about these people's the long term consequences of this. I'm not worried about it.

1:44:28If there was a way they could do it and just do it, I mean, I'm just thinking, how many success stories? What is the long term history of this? How many people have done this? What's the effects on your hips long term? Here's a guy. This guy did it a long time ago. Yeah, he's doing squatting running and some like, high knees and stuff. Wow. It worked. Look at that. Fine. So he's been doing it. How long has he out at a surgery? I don't know specifically. Well, he looks like a regular athlete. He doesn't look like he's having any problems. No problems. But he also has like those pads over his shins, which leads me to think that he still has little scars there.

1:45:07But everyone who watches him jump winces because they think his legs are gonna snap. That's him running. Well, this looks like before right here in the description. It says it wasn't able to sprint all out. But I could do stuff a year later. A year later. After rehabbing full and regained full athletic ability. So passing my previous best prior to leg -lifting surgery, interesting. So there's one example I found. But, you know, fucking cool. I love it, man. I welcome it. I can't wait to see the hybrid humans that are gonna just be right around the corner, man. There's gonna be some wild people.

1:45:46Wings. Yeah, for sure, wings. That's gonna be the first thing. Who doesn't want to be an eagle man? Fucking wings, man. I want wings. Oh, that doesn't want to jump off a building. Oh, dude. Unfold your wings when you go on stage. The going on stage. We descend down on the stage. You don't walk through the curtains. Do you think you'd even want to go on stage if you get to lie? Yes. Are you fucking kidding, you know, you're funny jokes you could do if you could fly. It's gonna be flying all day. No, you wouldn't. You would do still these damage. I would want to get long toenails so I could catch a salmon.

1:46:24That would be the funniest thing. You're fishing in Joe Rogan's swoop stab and grabs your salmon. Try to snatch him before the bear gets to him. Dude. Dolphin. I want to go aquatic, baby. You stick to the skies. I'm going under. I want to get down there and explore and just go into the sea. Yeah. This is, there's a book called Wizard of Earth Sea by Ursula K. LaGu 'in and they talked about how there's a wizard to can turn themselves into dolphins. But the problem is if you stay at dolphin long enough, you forget that you're a wizard and you never come back to pick a wizard and you just stay out there.

1:47:07So, that, people would be disappearing into the ocean. Like, I'll be back tomorrow. I'm just going to be a whale and then you're just like, you know, that was a dream. The whole human thing. I'm just going to stay whale, swim around. That's what we, and that's what God did. See what it's like to be some limited thing. It's that great Alan Watts, I say. See what it's like to be some limited fucking thing on a planet floating in the middle of nowhere. You don't want to remember I'm God. I'm just going to fucking plot around for a little bit. Well, if we're a part of everything and the universe is God, that's what I think.

1:47:45I've been thinking about that more and more. Like, this idea that God created the universe. Maybe, or maybe the universe is God. I mean, doesn't that make more sense if it's everything? If it's everything is one thing. And then your role in it as a thing, as an intelligent thing, is getting whatever you are to a point where you transcend physical space. Yeah, man. Yeah. Or you become the final bunny. I think that's all of our cultural struggles, all of our struggles over resources. They're all the battle that keeps us moving against it to further and progress the human race. Like all of the outrage about like those professors that weren't capable of saying that calling for the death of the Jews is hate speech or is harassment.

1:48:39All that is there to get people outraged enough that they realize, oh my God, this is insanity. We have to change the way we think. This is fucking insanity that this discussion is actually being had in 2023. But if it was subtle enough that it didn't freak you the fuck out, it wouldn't be good enough for change. Dude, it's like, first though, you got to get a taste of it. Like, you know, it's a saddest video. I hate it. You ever see that video of the polar bear when it snows? He's in a zoo. Now it's snowed and the polar bear is rolling around in the fucking snow. Finally, everything makes sense to the polar bear.

1:49:26It's designed for snow. There's snow. It's been in this snow -free environment. Yeah. So if we're the universe and simultaneously singular individuals, then we're made to be much more than we are. And if you're all squashed into your fucking body, the moment you just get any kind of respite from that, you remember, you're going to be nicer to people. Like, if I'm living, if you and me are living, we're tight friends. But if you and me are living in a bachelor pad, how long before we start fighting, man? How long before we start irritating the shit out of each other? Well, you and I lived together for six months?

1:50:07You had a big ass house. But we did your team, each other. No, I'm saying if you take any, I don't care. Take the Dolly Lama and Romdos and put him in a tiny little fucking room. Right. They eventually get on each other's terms. So if you're living in a compressed reality where you've become convinced that you are all you are, your body is only you, then naturally you're going to panic. Naturally, you're going to feel claustrophobic. Naturally, you're going to be a dick. So if suddenly you had a realization that, no, you're everything. You're more than that. The next thing spontaneously that will emerge from you is kindness, compassion.

1:50:49It might not be like, you might not become the sweetest person on earth. But shit people say to you, it's not going to hit his heart. Because like, if you were in a dream where somebody was insulting you in the worst way possible, and you thought it was real, you're getting your feelings sort of over and over again in the dream. And then you remember, I'm going to wake up. This isn't, this is a dream. That insulting thing isn't going to hurt as much. It's not going to hate you as hard. You're not going to take it personally. So this is, you're totally right. It's like the moment people start remembering what we are, everything will shift.

1:51:26Everything will change. Everything does change. Because everyone's fucking and suffering so much. You know, these fucking professors, whoever the fuck it is, whoever's belting out outrage and anger and whatever, you can be sort of one thing. They don't feel great. They don't get, they don't get, they don't get, they don't get, they don't get, they don't get, they don't get away. No fucking way. And that's sad. And also, how many of them are medicated? Oh my god. It's so normal for people, whether it's an academia, or just in many jobs to be on SSRIs, to be on anti -exiting medication, to be on mood stabilizers, to be on this sort of that, Adderall, and I have ADHD, turns out just need a little bit of Adderall.

1:52:16How many of these people are, they're not even capable of stepping off whatever path they're on, terrationally or objectively assessed, whether or not the way they think makes any sense at all. Dude, they're on a runaway train. Just we down the tracks. Yeah man. And they're running major educational institutions. Yeah. And yeah. Legacy ones. Dude, I think this is the status quo. This is how it's always been, anytime you are in the world, you're around people or sleepwalking. That's just part of it, because part of being in the world is you sleepwalk at first, because you're waking up from infinity, you're like a fucking baby coming out of infinity.

1:52:58So you're sleepwalking at first, you're culturally conditioned, you're programmed, and then somewhere along the way, maybe you start realizing, wait, I don't have to be like, this isn't me, I don't have to be like this. By the way, so I can get it off my fucking mic, can I pitch my book? Please do. It's like eating me alive, because it makes me feel like a fucking asshole. I have an audiobook that I did with one of my friends, Ragu Marquez, who runs the Ramdasa's foundation, the love server member foundation, he was with Ramdasa in India, with name Kroly Baba, this great saint and guru, and he's been my friend for years.

1:53:38And so we recorded this audiobook called The Movie of Me to the Movie of We. That's it. It's just an audiobook. You can even think of it as like a podcast, basically, but it's, he's just so brilliant, and he's just been living in this like world, and was lucky enough to meet this person who like was incredible. What is this book about? So this book is about, well, it's kind of what we're talking about. It's like, like, I know you know this experience, because you're so generous, and you are, you give. But if you're not giving, if you don't like, if you get too caught up in like serving yourself, if you get too compressed in the identity, you start defending, you start trying to like always placate yourself.

1:54:34So, but the moment that you start helping, the moment you sort of expand your idea of who you are, beyond your body, then at least in my experience as a professional, selfish person, suddenly you feel this liberation. It's the most incredible thing. And so this is just like, we just talk about all the stuff at these Ramdas retreats that I go to, and all of the like, like sort of mystical teachings that have emerged from all over the world that sort of point in the direction of how to sort of get the fuck out of this movie that you're in, where you're the main character, you're the main fucking character, you're, it's a shitty fucking movie.

1:55:22You don't even want to be in the role. It's this guy, Krishna Dost came up with a idea, which is that you wake up in the fucking morning, you're the main actor in a fucking shitty goddamn movie, and you're not just acting in the movie, directing the fucking shitty movie, then you're writing reviews about how much the movie sucks. That's the movie of me. And so the moment you sort of step outside yourself and realize, we're sharing the stage here together, we're, or even better, we're the same consciousness that's gotten confused by its proximity of our bodies, then the movie changes. And instead of being evil dead too, you know, it becomes some, I don't know, whatever you want it to be, romcom porn.

1:56:08There's a mystery that some people have solved, and they've solved it like temporarily sometimes, and sometimes they fall back to the old way of thinking, but the mystery can be solved while you're alive on Earth, that at least for moments, for brief moments, the universe reveals that there's this inescapable connection of all people, of all events, of all life, of all thought, of all love, of all hate, of all. All of it is in this insane cycle of giving and receiving and energy going back and forth, and we look at it in terms of like cultural conflicts, we look at it in terms of pollution, we look at it, we look at all these different things, but what's really going on is this fucking insane connectivity that it's very difficult to be aware of as a biological organism with an imperative to stay alive, that it's literally burned into your DNA because your being is the product of millions of years of things clawing and scratching to get to this point, and we're still so burdened by our origins that we can't abandon war.

1:57:32We can't abandon the one thing that scares the fuck out of us more than anything in life and should. The one thing that's killed more innocent people than anything ever, and we can't even imagine a world without it. Yeah, man. That's the wildest thing about being a person. The one thing that everyone would agree, like what? Think of all the horrible things that happened in that October 7th event, right? All the slaughter of the women, the children, the rape, and the horrible shit. We can barely imagine a world where that doesn't take place sometimes. And in war, that's the kind of thing that takes place.

1:58:13And we can't imagine not having that. Like we would never do that. We're just people, most people listening to this, would never paraglide into a fucking rave and start gunning kids down, right? Most people listening could never even imagine doing that. But we also can't imagine a world where that doesn't take place. That's right. Which is insane. Insane. Insane. We are preparing constantly. We spend more money preparing constantly and spending money on the thing that protects us from all the bad people in the world. That's right. Anything else we do by far. And the whole thing falls apart. The moment you stop doing, you're you, I'm me.

1:59:04You're bad. I'm good. These are other me's. They're the good me's. You're the bad me's. Yes. And the bad me's have got to go. And so that's the recipe for conflict war fighting just a general shitty life is that you think that this person over there is different from you. Even though that fucking person over there is you in a different incarnation. Okay. With this philosophy, what do you do with the border? I love you, man. Okay. That's great. Thanks for having me on the show. Right. We need to just let everybody in. Well, you know, man, the so like that. Right, but you can't. Why are you the person you told?

1:59:48Wait, why are you the person who told me that the samurai to kill somebody has to love him first? Did you tell me that that like? No. Okay. That's definitely not true. They killed a lot of people. They don't even know. All right. Well, then I'll throw that out of the fucking shit. I say I'm stupid. I hate this, but I have to come back here. I'm just fucking getting. Sorry. What do we do at the border? Jim, what do we do about the border? We were just talking about how easy these conversations are to have that like you and I first became friends when I would call and get my availability. That's when we really got to know each other was all the phone because I would call on us.

2:00:23I would say I'm in town Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday and you'd be like, hey man, do you see this documentary? And then we would just start talking. We would talk for like fucking an hour and a half. So it was so cool, man. It was such a fun beginning of a friendship. You don't know the first time. I don't remember the first time I met you though. I don't think. When did that when? So I was with Corey Como. She was a talent corner at the time. And I'm sitting next to you. And this is when I think you just started smoking wheat. It was a relatively new thing. And you were realizing how wonderful it was.

2:00:54And so you were talking about how much you love wheat. And I started doing the thing that you now know I do as like trying to be funny or fun. And I started, I was about to be like it causes brain damage. And Corey is like, Corey is like shoving me like no, no, no, don't do that because you didn't know me. You would have just thought I was a fucking asshole. And so I stopped. But I was like, you did give me like a sharp look for a second. And I'm like, oh, fuck. And but that's when we first, like that's when I was like, we hung out for the very first time. And then we started talking. And dude, I'll never forget this car.

2:01:33Driving back from Anaheim improv with you, I think. Stoned, stoned as fuck. And you put on Terrence McKenna. Some lecture that I still think about. And man, I felt like the universe was just melting down. And it was really like blowing my mind. I'd read Terrence McKenna but I'd never listened to any of his lectures. And it was just like he was talking about the singularity. And we were both like, God, fucking damn it. This is crazy. There was a series of audio. It might have been cassettes that you could get. It was on Amazon at one point in time, I think. Yeah. But it was all these Terrence McKenna lectures.

2:02:20And then there was the psychedelic salon. We can get all of them. Did you ever go to that podcast? Psychedelic salon has everything. Alan Watts, every Timothy Leary, every Terrence McKenna, like so many hours and hours of McKenna. Amazing because he would give like kind of similar speeches but it was all. He just kind of would go wherever it would take. Yeah. And he was so good at it because he was doing it constantly. So he would just show up to these places. And it was really interesting because he was like Timothy Leary had it wrong. Like what I like to do is keep things small and quiet. And so he would do like, you know, a couple hundred people here and there.

2:03:01Yeah. Nobody bothered him. Yeah. He never got too crazy. Yeah, man. I, he, what a man of all of the luminaries that we missed, that I didn't get to talk to or hang out with that one. God, it would have been so cool. I've become friends with his brother and his brother is amazing. Dennis is really cool. He's amazing. And Dennis is the more skeptical scientist. Yeah. He's, you know, he's a legitimate scientist. And he, he has some very, very unique, like informed thoughts, particularly about the Stone -Daped Theory. That's one of the more magical ones. Yeah. That's, that's one of the more magical theories because, man, if they're right, that's crazy.

2:03:46Yeah, I, yeah, I mean, you know, because that's a nutty one, dude. That's a nutty one. That, that thing, that now the became, literally is why we became human. If that thing somehow or another became a schedule one substance in this corrupt, fucked -up culture, where you could get locked in jail for the very thing that turned us into people. Right. The very thing that the universe provided, you'd grow and evolve. And it's your right as an evolved creature to rebel against that to the point where you can overthrow that. Because it's insane. You've let tyrants take over the ability that people have to evolve that came straight from God.

2:04:23Yes. And that's, if that's what's really going on, like that's the thing. That's like the push. That's like the people in front of Congress saying that, you know, calling for death to the Jews is a doesn't constitute harassment unless it's actionable. It's like it's a thing that makes you go, what the fuck are you talking about? It's got it. Someone's got to say, no, we're going to, not only can you not take it, we're going to put you in a cage. We're going to make it the most illegal thing. Like, yeah. How are you making the thing that made people? They're like, what data do you have that shows this is bad?

2:04:55Like, dude, you don't have any. How are you locking people up? That's crazy. This is why I don't think it's project blue beam because you could just tell people, don't eat that thing that makes you remember your God and that you should love everyone around you and that you're part of a holy mystical, extantiation of consciousness into time space because it's bad. And we're all like, okay. All right. If you say not to, I guess we can't. But don't you think they don't know which is part of the problem because if you really did know, if you had really taken it, you would never want to stop people from taking it.

2:05:30So I don't think any of them have done it, which should be a prerequisite. I don't know. I don't know. Graham Hancock has said, well, I think he had a crazy number. He said you should have no fewer than 20 ayahuasca or psilocybin experience. Jesus Christ. If you want to be president. Now that's what I agree with. And you should have like, Could you imagine if that was the thing that you had to put them through? If that was the thing, instead of these fucking goofy debates, where they're all dunking on each other and, whoa, you got lifts in your shoes, son. Instead of that, if instead they all had to take psychedelics and we had to have access to their psychedelic ceremonies.

2:06:13So you could say, did he do his five sessions? Yeah. Yeah, let's see, is his five sessions documented? Let's make sure we can watch his five sessions. Let's say if it doesn't scream out wild shit like while he's like, you know, what is he, you know, maybe his real intentions will be revealed. Like maybe when he gets, maybe he can't hand, maybe comes out of it, a different person who doesn't want to be president anymore. Really? Maybe he does the five sessions and be like, I'm changing the course of my life. Like what am I doing? Yeah. That sounds nuts. But if we were a healthy society, we would legitimately consider whether or not someone should have some very powerful documented psychedelic sessions that we know at a dose to be a transformative experience and have multiple ones of those documented if you want to run things.

2:07:00Dude. And you should probably have to keep up with it too. You should probably have to do it every six months. I think it should be, that should definitely be on the, on the agenda. But let's start with just get him drunk. I want to see what you're like when you're hammered. You know, you know, a lot about a person when you're around the winter hammer. Some guys get super goofy when they get drunk. Yeah. Some stupid things. Yeah. Well, for whatever you say, we won't hold it against you. But I want to see like your energy shift when you're hammered. Right. Right. What do you like? Are you a bully or a fun drunk?

2:07:32You have fun drunk. You have fun drunk. You have fun drunk. I don't want to fucking angry drunk president. Right. Then you move on up the list of drugs and to just, what is their consciousness like in different psychedelic states? Right. And then from that we can make a true judgment on whether they can get drunk. They'll know more about themselves and why they wanted to do it in the first place. Right. If they still want to do it after it's over. Because a lot of people think they want to be president just because it's hard to do. Like there's a lot of things that are hard to do. You shouldn't do.

2:08:04Right. You know, like there's a lot of jobs that seem like they're good, but it's just hard to do. You know, just not, you don't want that. Dude, they're okay. So this connects to what we're talking about. I told you about this great documentary on Netflix about this cult. Love is one. Fascinating. This cult leader essentially like my analysis of it is the cult killed her. She started off as a cult leader. But then as things progress. What was her name? I can't remember her mother. God is what they called her. Here it is. This is the lady. Yeah. From mother God to mummified corpse inside the fringe spiritual sect.

2:08:42Love has won. Amy Carlson was supposed to be the incarnate of Mary of Marilyn Monroe, Joan of Arc and Jesus Christ. But that's ambitious. She was shed her earthly body for the latest time. Authorities found her followers still worshiping it shedding light on the group many have called a cult. It's a fucking cult. I can't believe they said it like that. That's a cool many of call Jesus rolling stone. What are you doing? Dude, that's such a weird language. What does that, what does that even mean? Well, the documentary is spectacular. But what's interesting about it is that so this person is dying.

2:09:20She needs to go to the hospital. Sometimes she would come out of her cult leader. I am God mentality and say to people, I don't think this is real. I don't think I'm God. And they would say to her, Mother God, you're just in your lowers right now. You're not in your higher, aetheric body, which is why you think you're not Mother God. You are Mother God. And in interviews, one of them, I think, said if she'd asked to go to the hospital, I don't think we would have taken her. So this cult forms around this woman. And then the cult itself enables her alcoholism. She was a profound alcoholic. It keeps her on, she's drinking colloidal silver till she turns fucking blue.

2:10:04Oh my God. Turns blue. And the cult essentially devours her until they're worshipping her mummified body. I'm comparing this to the presidency. How do they mummify her? Well, I don't know that they just let her sit in a sleeping bear. You see the picture, if you want to see the picture of her. Yeah, I want to see that. Okay, yeah, it's pretty wild. How rough is it? Not, I mean, the way that whatever the eyes are that they put, they really do seem to be gazing into your soul is pretty intense. Put fake eyes in there. I'm not sure it was her eyes. I read that they painted it or that it's like, dude, it is, you will love this documentary by the way.

2:10:44But this is like where... That's it. She's turning blue. Oh, wow. And that's from the colloidal silver. Yeah. Mother God. God, that's so weird. And what was she trying to recover from with this colloidal silver? Well, she had some kind of organ failure going on in like anorexia. Oh, no. But she was drinking and she was getting hammered all the time. Organ failure, drinking and anorexia altogether? Yeah. And it's a fascinating story because she was a manager at McDonald's, took MDMA and boom, there you go. Oh my God. God her skin is blue as fuck. Yeah. That's what it was like before she died. Yeah.

2:11:25Did you ever see that one dude that went on like Oprah or something like that? Yeah. And the skin was blue. Poppins, Murf guy. Yeah, yeah, same thing, right? Same thing. How many people have done that? Google, how many people have turned blue? People turning blue using colloidal silver. I also found... I don't know if I can get to this. There's another one of her. I'm just part of the story. The headline I'm writing. Mother God, Robin Williams, an alcohol as medicine. Dead celebrities had something to do with this. Robin Williams talked her... Like she had contact, she channeled Robin Williams.

2:11:54Not Jesus. No, dude, it is... I can't wait to watch it. So I love a good cult documentary, dude. I didn't mean to derail our conversation with the president. What I mean is it's a similar thing. You start off wanting to be president and you become president. But then you're in this system that where you're trapped. Like you've got to have security for the rest of your life. I think it's mandatory. Like if you've been president, that means you are being constantly monitored for the rest of your life by the US government. So it's a similar fucking thing. Even if you have the best intention by the time you get in there and you have to start making these rotten decisions and you have to feel the hate of at least half the country every fucking day, the psychic hate of half the country, probably more than half of the world.

2:12:47It crushes you. It kills you. So it's a really dangerous, shitty, rotten job that you trapped yourself in. And then you don't want to leave because what are you going to do after you've experienced that level of power? How do you go back to a regular life? Well, you're never a regular person ever again. I mean, who has vanished the best? I guess W. He's pretty much vanished. I mean, but we'll look at what he started doing. He started doing those paintings of people in military and the war that he started. That weird paintings. I think Jimmy Carter did a pretty good vanishing act. Like he kind of dropped out in here, about in that much.

2:13:33True. Obama, now he's directing movies now and stuff. But W did two terms. You know? Yeah, right. Two terms, eight years. During the height of the war on terror, it was right after 9 -11 that he got elected. So he gets elected. It's 2020. And then 2021 or 2001 rather, we have 9 -11. So it's like not that long after he was president and then all of a sudden his approval rating goes up. And everybody likes him more. And for eight years, this guy was involved with Dick Cheney in this war that now everybody thinks of as a fucking catastrophe. Yeah. And he's just kind of melted away. And he's just painting somewhere now.

2:14:22Just where people with machine guns like stand around and keep eye out for everything. Because for sure there's someone coming for you. Like for sure there's somebody out there who's like, I'm just gonna kill him someday. I'm just gonna get to him. That's how you have to wake up just knowing that's your life. Fuck that job. It looks like Salon Rushdie when he got attacked on stage. It's like 20 years after the fuck war. Yeah. Some guy came on stage and stabbed him. If you were like Dick Cheney, you can't go anywhere without worrying. Someone's gonna get you. I mean, they made a movie about you were fucking, what's his name, Batman?

2:15:00Christian Baal played you. Yeah. I mean, what? Yeah, I did. And it's not favorable. Right, it's not favorable movie. Like what did you guys do? I mean, what did you do? This is why there's a whole strata of society that's designed for people like that that, you know, I'll never see. It's a rarefied place with... It's called Bohemian Grove. Ha! Bohemian. You can go there by canoe. Did you watch that video? No, you told me some guy broke into it. Dude, it is the most... What's the video? Where do we get it? Google guy breaks into Bohemian Grove. And it's not all shown. And John Rotson. It's truly disappointing.

2:15:38But and I think they definitely get high there because I think he saw a sign in one of the cabins that said no marijuana. Is it this guy? No, that's... There's a few people out of Dunnett. This might be someone introducing it, but the one I saw was just first person POV of the guy going through the Bohemian Grove. This isn't it. No, this isn't it. It's at night. They might have... It was on Instagram. They might have already zapped it. There it is. Which one? This one? Our guy sneaks into infamous Bohemian Grove. That could be it, but I guess a lot of people have done this. This is something that...

2:16:11Yeah, this is it. That's it. He got in deep. And this post is 10 days ago. Oh, okay, this must be it. Okay. So this is him. He's wearing a mask. And how's he sneaking in through the woods? I heard it was a kayak, but maybe not. Hmm.

2:16:33Why did he get in? Oh, back up. No idea. I just shot my leg in here. And go on the lease of all the lights. Just try not to. Whoa.

2:16:48Yo, I want to go to Bohemian Grove. Me too. We could go. You could go in a second. I want to go. And... What do we have to do? Who do we have to pledge our allegiance to? To watch the ritual? I don't think they... I think they just probably think you're funny. We'll let you in. Really? Yes. Well, does this look sinister to me? Looks a little sinister to me, buddy. Looks like no one's there. Nice and mossy. They don't have a ritual every day. It's romantic. Look at that nice moss. Because that's the owl. That's the owl, but watch when he bangs on it and you realize it's a fucking hollow. Well, look, it's called a moss and everything.

2:17:24It's beautiful. Looks cool. So when is he banging on it? Look, this is inside the fucking owl. Okay. Not a stone megalith like I thought. Well, it's like a little space in there. But it seems like it's man out of the cement, dude. Whatever, it's hollow. Like an Easter egg. Where do I go to those bunnies? When you get an Easter bunny, it's hollow, you get upset. Like a pup, golf course, like a fucking thing at a pup, pup course. No offense, but we mean grow members. I do want to come.

2:17:59I'll take your hollow out. But I'm sorry. This is to me. I think it like now this is there. This is I guess they're bathroom. It's all nix and shit there. It's all worn down. It's like, yeah, it's probably they kept it the same as it's always been. I mean, if you got to imagine if these guys were going there, when they start going there in the 60s, when they start going there. Logs. That's a funny thing. Everything he sees is sinister to him. There he goes back in his kayak. Oh, okay. So he's fucking out. Seems kind of crazy that they don't have any security there at all. Another sign that it's not as sinister as we thought.

2:18:39Is he using a frying pan? I don't think it's a loon. He's got this straight loon. He's using a frying pan. Maybe fellow youth also act as a weapon to crack alligators over the head with. They're coming after him or something. There's no alligators in California, or anyone am I saying? I'm sure the security guard is just like, this happens every night. And this one, he's like, I gotta take a shit. Like, I'm not dealing with another. Another fucking loony. But like, But the thing is like, we know that world leaders at least used to meet there. I mean, the Nixon audio tapes are hilarious. Have you hear Nixon talking about it?

2:19:13The fracas thing I've ever seen. Yeah, Nixon did. See if Nixon pull up the audio of Nixon talk about the he -meeting Grove. Apparently they did a lot of wild shit back then. I think they still probably do. I'm not saying they don't party there, but I just - How many politicians are like that? How many politicians are like, closet super perverts? January 1970. I don't - You know?

2:19:39In another of the candidate and sometimes course conversations released today, the president muses about anti -Semitism. He's talking to evangelist Billy Graham and worries about reaction to the Washington visit of Israeli Prime Minister Golden Mayor. Because Israel has just shot down a Libyan passenger plane. There's a minute or so. Almost as if it's very about the bombing. No, we all know - I'm sorry. I don't know where in this video it is. Oh. It's probably hard to find. It's probably a little clip. Yeah, you gotta find the Bohemian Grove part. I thought it would just be the only thing on the video.

2:20:14Clearly it's not. This is apparently some other tea. Yeah, we're the weirdest. He's just talking about all kinds of shit. From the lost Nixon tapes, Gays are born that way. Oh, he was right. Congratulations. Yeah, I don't know. I swear, I mean, I know we've played this before. It's not coming up right away. Nixon Bohemian Grove, huh? Nothing scrolled down a little bit. Maybe - It starts to get mudnier. Seems like you'd find it right away. Right, amig. Hmm. I mean, Nixon Bohemian Grove. That's the same video. Oh, one minute. No, this is it. This is the right one. 1971. Washington, DC. President Nixon took the time to have an impromptu conversation with two of his close aides.

2:21:04He's our hold on it. Look at that guy. They look like dudes from the 60s. The Berlin Wall because of their German sounding names and their pension for isolating Nixon from anyone who wanted to see him. The only problem was this little off -the -cuff conversation was being recorded by the secret White House taping system. President Nixon's thoughts and love those of a hall domain and early men when soon become a part of presidential history. Let us let us let us let us let our channel one. You and me, yeah. You know what happens? San Francisco is gone. It's clear over. San Francisco has just gone down the clear.

2:21:48It's not just the ratty part of town. The upper class in San Francisco is that way. The Bohemian Grove that I attend from time to time. Easterners have come there. This knows the fact that you got damn thing you could ever imagine. The San Francisco crowd lives there. It's just terrible. I don't know if you can't tell you. Everybody from San Francisco.

2:22:12I messed up my grove. A different set of values. Yeah. Reagan. So they were all there hanging out together. You said I go there from time to time. Yeah, I just don't think it's... I mean, look, I was hoping I was so excited by that video. I'm grateful to whoever filmed it, because I was like, oh, shit, I will up close. Because Alex Jones only got the distant owl. Which is still good footage. But this is like close up of the owl. You missed the urn in front. They have a bowl in front of the owl. I mean, again, I can't believe I have an expectation for the Bohemian Grove, but I thought they would be doing better upkeep on their cab.

2:22:51Well, maybe once they got found out, they don't go there anymore. We would do a different grove. Yeah, I mean, why wouldn't they just abandon that fucking thing? If you're the Illuminati, the Illuminati is real. Why would you stick with a place that's already been like outed? Or do you get some dope spot in Wyoming or something? Exactly. Yeah, you just get some place where people have to helicopter in. Yeah. No one's gonna hike in. No one knows where the fuck it is. Right. Everybody shut your mouth. Right. Yeah, I don't... It's Burning Man. Hey! Hey, if I... I'll tell you this. I would not doubt if there were an Illuminati.

2:23:25It would not surprise me at all to know some of them go to Burning Man. I would make some... I would imagine they would go just to keep their fucking finger on the pulse. Yeah. Like, what are you freaks up to? Dude, they flew... The one I went to, they flew... What are they called? F -22s? They just... There's a military base near there that wanted to fuck with Burning Man. Whoa. And they flew over Burning Man a few times just to blow everyone's mind and freak everyone out. It was tripping really going... Fast as fuck! It was crazy! How low are they? Low! It was like... Shoo! Like it was... We low?

2:23:55So... I mean, I was... I was pretty high. No! Not really! But yeah, it was so funny looking around at the faces of all the burners after like high -tech military aircraft just flew over. I think they just wanted to look at the festival probably. No, they're fucking with those people. They're having fun. I would do that if I was a fighter pilot. Definitely fly over. Burning Man fun. Those fucking dirty hippies clean your feet. Shoo! They're not all hippies. Oh no, there's a lot of different kinds of weirdos that go to those things. But it is interesting like how significant it is a part of people's life.

2:24:30That they go to Burning Man. Like it becomes like a thing that they look forward to. Like they're Olympics every year. It's one of the best things I ever experienced as far as like festivals go. I mean, change my life for the better for sure. It's incredible. I mean, it really... I know that you will never go. But if you did go, you would get it. And that's what I love. Oh, I get it. It's got a force field around it. A cultural force field where people have an idea about what it is. And you can't really have an idea about what it is. Because it's too big. Right. Your idea about what it is is correct.

2:25:02Like for a piece of the pie. But you really can't understand. You can't know all of what it is. Other than like this incredible expression of art. And an incredible like temporary example of like humans can do this too. We don't have to blow shit up. We can drive a little around and garish fancy art cars. Dressed like weirdos with like playing like awesome music. And like just have fun together. Like that is possible too. And the fact that it's hard to get there. And a difficult terrain definitely helps strain some people out. So the people who come there are really fascinating. I mean, I'm telling you man, it's like the force field where people are like, that's where douchebags go.

2:25:46Or that's where annoying ass fucking hippies go. Yes, you're correct. They're there. But that's not all that's there. And so it's a mystical. I mean, I'm telling you it's a mystical place. It's one of those mystical things I ever encountered. Well, that's probably what's going to have to happen somewhere. Just like the United States of America. Like the United States of America is only three people old. You know, like just if you just stop and think about what these people decide to do to escape the confines of society they found themselves trapped in. And all the tyranny they escaped. And they came to a new land, started new, and there's a lot of, you know, not a happy story in all forms.

2:26:26Yeah. A lot of fucked up things went down. But the idea that that can never happen again seems kind of silly. Like it's happened so many times. I mean, it wouldn't be an easy thing to do when people are definitely going to resist. That's the thing that you have to be really aware of. If you try to start another country right now, the country you're from would come and fuck with you. They do not want you doing that. Like if we just like imagine, what if the climate change people are right? And everybody looked at Greenland going, I'm going to Greenland, bring a broken Jeep. And we just went in and bought Greenland.

2:26:59You know, like remember there was a joke that Trump was talking about buying Greenland. Yes. And he promised that he wouldn't do this. He put a meme up. It was hilarious. I have a giant like Trump tower. It says Trump on it because I promise I won't do this to Greenland. It was so funny. Like who the fuck is that much awareness? Yeah. As a president to do that. But if someone bought Greenland and if climate change does keep happening. And like all of a sudden Greenland becomes nice. Yeah. It becomes a good spot. Temperate climate because where it's at. It's like the rest of the world is a little too hot.

2:27:29But Greenland is perfect. And then the people that escape what's wrong with how the United States has been run. What's wrong with money and politics. What's wrong with money. You know, pharmaceutical industrial complex be able to advertise and control politicians. And all the shit that you saw over the last few years. And all the shit you see with war. All the shit you see right now. If someone started a new one. Yeah. Good luck. Good luck. Is that what you need space colonization for that to act like you need some kind of. Or a disaster. Or a giant disaster. A giant disaster. Like a big one. Yeah.

2:28:05Like a big crazy asteroid impact type deal where everything's fucked. Collective consciousness shift. I mean, I know that's the like such new age bullshit to say. But like theoretically if there was some shift in consciousness, then maybe there would be. You would really have to have like a complete shift in like value. And then if that happened, you could see some new way of running things. Well, don't you think that that shift is happening right in front of our eyes. It's hard to see because we're looking at it through the lens of a person who exists day by day. But if you just went back to when you and I, when did we first meet?

2:28:47Do 2012. No, pre 2012 because we were talking about minor back lives. When did you first start working on the store?

2:28:57Late 90s. Oh yeah, I've been there for a long time. I'm really bad with. 2012 was nuts. I've known you from the 90s. No, dude, I'm so bad with time. I think I met you in like 99 or something. 99 probably. 99 2000 back then marijuana was illegal. And the only way to get a hold of it in California was you have to have a medical license. Right. So we used to get medical licenses together. And the idea of psychedelics at all being accepted in any positive way was alien. Right. You never heard about PTSD being treated like maps wasn't there. They hadn't done their studies yet. Right. They hadn't done these psilocybin studies.

2:29:36You hadn't heard about eye -begin for helping people get off opiates. Opiates weren't even a problem then. It wasn't not a thing that people were talking about. To go from that to where we are now, where there are states that have decriminalized it. And then it was up for, there was a proposal for California, but Newsom rejected it because they didn't have like a protocol in place. It come back when you have like some sort of a, yeah. If you're going to use it for therapy, some sort of a therapeutic protocol, which you know probably make sense. Like not just decriminalizing it, but decriminalizing it and setting boundaries for use.

2:30:12Like this is how you should do it. Right. If you weigh 150 pounds, this is what you need. I guess it's not even weight -dependent apparently. Apparently mushrooms are not weight -dependent. No way. It's interesting. Yeah. Well, how they know that though. Like how many studies have they been done with dosing people? You know, that are 100 pounds, up to 300 pounds. How many studies have they done with that? But the thing is they're doing those studies now. And you can get ketamine from a fucking licensed therapist now. And people are traveling on a regular basis to go to South America to do ayahuasca.

2:30:42It's really common. There's ayahuasca tourism. Everybody talks about doing it. Right. There's so many people that are micro -dosing. There's so many people in Silicon Valley that are micro -dosing. Right. And openly talking about it. It's a different world than it was just from the time you and I met. Right. So it's happening right in front of us. Right. It's just not moving at a pace that corresponds with our understanding of it. Right. Like we're saying, like how can you say it's illegal? Like how are you making it illegal? It doesn't make any sense. This is a thing that's made by people to control other people.

2:31:14And in this one, you're not helping anyone. Right. You're hurting people. It's overall known that this is a fact. Right. But it's taking time for that idea to be accepted. People have to die. Generations have to pass. New ideas have to be cemented in people's heads because they're so ideologically entrenched in what they initially believe. Right. That's why it's so hard for vegans to go back to eating meat. Like they can't. Slow drip, baby. I mean, look. You know, again, it's like this is the other thing. It's like if you judge a tree by its fruit, I love what you're pointing out there. If you look at the fact that this is happening, the implication is there are people in positions of power recognizing that there's just no fucking way.

2:31:59We're going to legalize acid and mushrooms and empty. And may you fucking have these. We're not doing it overnight. Give us some time. There's people who clearly recognize that and are slowly turning the dial and shifting into whatever the future of humanity looks like where we're not encumbered by draconian consciousness limitations. So yeah, you know, the implications of people in positions of power who are 100 % for humans having access to their birthright. And that's exciting to think about. I wonder who those people are. No idea, but I'm glad they're out there. We're in such a weird time.

2:32:43Yeah, man. But it's all happening right in front of us. It's just all at once and so many things from so many and we have so much access to it. And then we also have so many lies. And it's all of it just slamming into each other left and right in front of us like little ideological car accidents. I know. Just like the truth and fiction and narrative and bullshit and what you want to believe versus what's really true. There we are. Oh, I get grabbed out of the time. Good guys and fucking bang, bang, bang, bang. And the way one group of people looks at one thing versus the way another group of people and they all seem kind of like rational.

2:33:22Yeah. How are you guys so far apart in your ideas? How is this how we so divided about so many unimportant things? Yeah. When the important things are not being resolved. Like none of the important like if you really wanted to control people, you would want to keep them doing what we're doing. Just constantly arguing about the dumbest shit and the things that we can't and having very little understanding of what you're really fucking passionate about. Right. And you're just still yelling it out anyway. Yeah. I mean, yeah, you want to and also you want to make them feel completely impotent and completely out of control and helpless.

2:34:08Yeah. And the only way you can do that is by again and again, make them think that they are a limited, temporary, organic body that when it dies, it's dead forever. Make them feel like this is all there is. So you better fucking go for it and going for it means grinding and hurting other people to get your fucking whatever it is you're looking for because that's all you got anyway, man. Yeah. And you got to get so if you keep the fixation on that paradigm, then yeah, you can probably control a shit down a people. Well, that's what they liked about COVID. One of the things I liked about it was that they could control you if they could get you to get vaccinated, they can get you to do that.

2:34:50They can force you to do a thing. That's a level of control they've never had over adults before. It's a new thing. You know, and if it's profitable and it's also this thing you're forcing people to do boy that gets sketchy boy that gets sketchy. Well, yeah, I mean, but there's so many other happened. Did you ever see the video of simple bitchy about seat belt laws? Yes, I love it. It's from like the 1970s. I'll never wear a fucking seat belt. Basically, combination of a cane, a beer after you get home from work. Yeah, that's what the guy's talking about. I feel like there's been endless iterations of this sort of flexing where you're like, you can't do that anymore.

2:35:33Yeah, well, it's just the insurance. That's the seat belt thing. It's just people were dying and it's like, there's too much money and they made laws. But are willingness to accept regulation? Exactly. Are willingness to accept regulations? I'm trying to pull up this, I'm looking for this thing. Because it's wild hearing them say it. Here it is. And you hear Fauci actually say it. It's just like, wow, why would you say that out loud? Like, this is not what you should be saying. Like, listen to this.

2:36:17Because this is what everybody suspected that they thought this way. Talk about something who faded out, whatever happened. Let me just disappear. You're going to cough in somewhere waiting for the... You reveal what he really wanted out of all those COVID mandates. Once people feel empowered and protected legally, you were going to have schools, universities, and colleges, I'm going to say, you want to come to this college, buddy, you're going to get vaccinated. It's been proven that when you make it difficult for people in their lives, they lose their ideological bulls**t and they get vaccinated.

2:36:56Dude, if that was a movie, it'd be cheesy. That's like, they don't know the hot mic is on, the belling gets revealed. What the fuck I never saw that. In that wild. Isn't this just wild that he thinks that way? That's why they fucking turned his mic off, dude. Because they're like, hey, what the fuck are you doing? We only say that in the Bohemian Grove. You can't say that loud. I just read Robert Kennedy's book. Robert Kennedy's book is more terrifying. And I've always said if it's not true, why isn't he getting sued? Because if it is true, if it is true, you should all be freaked out. And I know millions of people have read that book now, but it's not reviewed.

2:37:31You don't hear it talked about. It's not like a thing the mainstream media brings up. Just the actual facts that he's laying out. Just not even from COVID, from the AIDS epidemic. Just go back and just read that book or listen to the audiobook. And just stuff about AZT is wild. And using the same language, he was using it as the AZT is both safe and effective. Using that same language. For something that fucking killed people quicker than anything. Dude, if only they had been, I feel like if they've been honest when they came out with the vaccine, and it's, that's no way. There's a chance it's gonna fuck you up.

2:38:14That's what they do. They never do that. But then if they've done that, that's so, they can't start doing that. They've never done that. And then not only do they not do that, but they're allowed to run multiple studies. And if they can find one that they can rig in a way that some sort of a finagle shows some kind of positive benefit, that's the one they run with. And they can have eight studies that don't show it or eight studies that show it's bad. And they just push it away. And then on top of that, what gets even weirder is when someone goes to review these studies, they don't get the actual data.

2:38:49They get the review of the data from the pharmaceutical drug companies. And then they get to review what their findings were. They don't get to review the actual data. So the thing is not. You really think the COVID vaccine was bad for you? What? I'm just kidding. I don't even think that. That's not even what I'm saying. What I'm saying is they have a standard way that they handle any kind of medication. Yeah, I do. That's how you make the most money. I mean, it's when, like, you know, that collision between profit and medicine, it's such a dark place. It's so dark when you're at the hospital and you realize they have a motive to keep you here.

2:39:32Like the doctors, they've done their oath. They might not, but the hospital itself can implement certain rules and regulations that have a higher probability of keeping you in there longer so that it's more expensive. And that's where it gets fucking weird. And when it comes to pharmaceutical companies, or anything that's profiting off of sickness, it's like, you know, it's like, I don't know if there's a, what do you call the sugar industry? Big sugar. Big sugar. Big sugar. In the pharmaceutical companies, these are like happy bedfellows because one is poison. The other fixes the damage from the poison.

2:40:11And so when suddenly there's a profit motive behind it, oh shit's going to get weird because the lobbyist for the pharmaceutical companies theoretically would not want regulation on weird dyes and shit that big sugar is putting in stuff because that is going to reduce the profit for whatever medication they use to treat the damage from the fucking dyes. Isn't that nuts? Do they work together? Do they have meetings about this? How much have they thought it through? You know, we're going to see a big dip in our insulin profits if they regulate how much sugar is an orios. Like there's going to be a direct hit on our fucking industry if that happens.

2:40:53I think they do it that far. I don't think so. I pray that they don't, but it would surprise you. But boy, wouldn't you do it if you had an obligation to your shareholders? You're supposed to make the most amount of money possible, isn't that part of your job? That's what you tell yourself, I guess. Oh you would have to do it that way. You have to say like let these people eat their fucking sugar. I want to buy a yacht. Yeah. I want to meet their goddamn sugar. You know, just say the cereal is fucking good for you. The cereal is good for you. It's fucking great for you. It's great for you. This is the hell.

2:41:23Do you know one of the biggest drugs, emerging drugs like over the last few years, been blood thinners? No, I didn't know that. Yeah, how much of an increase in the prescriptions for blood thinners have there been over the last few years? What is that? Someone was talking about it because of strokes. Someone was talking about it. I need to find out if it's true though. It's one of those things that I was watching this YouTube video with some doctor was discussing the uptick and blood thinners. They were also talking about heart medications and heart issues and the uptick and heart issues. It's a large uptick.

2:41:55It's an uptick that if it was anything else, people would be really looking into it. If it was a diet, if also some new food was introduced into the food system that we never ate before, but then also there was a corresponding big uptick in all cause mortality, people would start thinking like I wonder if it's this new thing that just got introduced. Like if it was anything else. Do you remember when, okay, so I don't know if you remember science class, but I remember one of the things that I thought was exciting about science. Or maybe I just had a good teacher who's like anyone can be a scientist.

2:42:28That's the whole beauty of the method. This is a way to interrogate reality to find out what the truth is. You don't have to wear a fucking lab coat. Anyone should and could use this method to differentiate superstition from reality, cognitive bias from reality. It's very exciting, suddenly, about oh yeah, I don't have to be Isaac Newton to be a scientist. I can just use these methods in my own weird little experiments. And then something happened where suddenly the articulation of what you think is the truth, even if you're fucking wrong, became off limits. You couldn't say what you're talking about right now out loud.

2:43:13You weren't supposed to anymore. And people would even say don't do your own research. Don't investigate. Stop. You're not of the scientific class. You don't even understand this shit. Stop. It's misinformation. It's like fuck. Like instead of saying stop, challenge it. Like my favorite, it's funny reading the arguments between physicists. I don't know if you've ever seen that when they fight, like when scientists get in big fucking fights, it's so funny. And that was part of the tradition of science. Is like scientists weren't all these placid, like soft sweet. They are when you deny them funding if they're not.

2:43:52Oh God, that's so dark. And that's what happens. Money takes over medicine. So fucked up. Money takes over politics. Money takes over military. Money takes over environment. Money takes over green energy. Duncan, it's all about green energy. It's all about the green deal. Our green deal is going to fix it all. And people are just raking in money on this green deal. This green deal. We got partners in the green deal. We're going to stop this and form that. And we're going to have a coalition and no more gas cars. And then everybody's car has a limiter on it now. You can only go 65 miles an hour.

2:44:32That's it. Yeah. That's going to reduce deaths. Don't you want to reduce deaths? And we want to kill switch. I mean, what if a bad guy's running away? We could just stop him. I'm going to shut the car off. And what police should have? Or if you have a bad tweet. Stop your fucking car. And we just decide to stop your car. And don't even tell you I always tell you. Your car pulls over. It says, fucking retweet it. It's not a steady revise. I would actually would like that for my own funny. Is there something you'd like to fix? Like it pulls over and the thing just says there's something you'd like to fix.

2:45:00That tweet wasn't funny, Duncan. Yet again. Is there something I should fix? Perhaps one of your tweets. Oh, yeah. Please delete the offending tweet. OK. Continue. And then you can drive again. Yeah, man. That's not outside the realm of possibility. If some guy got arrested and went to jail for shit posting, a meme about Hillary Clinton, about the voting thing, you know that one? Yeah, dude. Where the guy said, you don't have to get a vote in person. Do 555. We found out that guy apparently. See if I believe this is true. He just posted it. The guy who got arrested. I don't think he created it.

2:45:35I was digging through that. He just posted a meme. He did post it, but I couldn't tell in the wording of it if he'd asked someone to make it for him. And then he posted it. I couldn't. I believe he said that he didn't make it. I believe he said that in an interview. But if he asked someone to make it for him, right, that's possible too. Yeah, or paid someone to make it. Right. Totally possible. Dude, that would be different. You could say I didn't make it. Yeah. The fucking E -car thing, man, it's just like, dude, I don't want to have something monitoring me all the fucking time, like an E -car.

2:46:05Or like you were saying, I don't want the ability for someone to turn this shit off. I think they already have it in some cars. I think they have it with OnStar. I think that's one of the cable. See if that's true. OnStar have the capability of shutting off a car. A gas car? A hot pursuit. Gas car? Oh, I believe so. I believe so. I believe it's a computer program. Because it allows you to start your car. It'll open. You can have a car. He's accidentally in his suburban. He called OnStar on Star unlocked his car. So he could go in and get his keys. Yeah. On their website, it's part of what they sell.

2:46:46OK, what's it's like? If you're getting a car jacked in Kidnapped. When a woman's SUV is stolen with her mother and a grandchildren's side, OnStar helps save the day. So OnStar shut the car off. So that's great if it does this, if a woman got Kidnapped with her cute little kid. I want to know if those are real people, or if those are crisis houses. OnStar stops fleeing felon instead of yeah. So OnStar already has the ability to do that. So that kill switch that everybody's asking for already exists if you have some cars. And is it just a GM that has OnStar? Is OnStar only General Motors? Or is it just a car thing?

2:47:25I feel like it's like a General Motors thing. I think it's Cadillac. Yeah, it's part of General Motors. Yeah, I wonder if they allow it in other cars, though. Is OnStar in other cars outside of General Motors cars? Or is it only? I mean, the good news is no one will ever hack that and use it for other things. Never completely safe. That will never be used against what OnStar is using it for. It only stopped Kidnapped for. And on to try another brick in the wall. Yeah, I remember being at a Pink Floyd laser light show when I was in high school. And it was the saddest thing, man, because another brick in the wall, we don't need no education comes on it.

2:48:08A laser light show, which is already depressing because it's definitely not Pink Floyd. It wasn't even that good a laser light show. And there's a security guard. He's probably in his 20s. It's a shit job. He's got to be the security guard of the laser light show. And then like the crowd turns on it. On the security guard? Just because he was in a security guard uniform and that song comes on and everyone starts raging against this guy. It was so weird. It's like, what are you gonna start attacking this guy? He's like, he's a problem with uniforms. Yeah, dude. Uniforms allow you to assume a position of power over people, but also you become the enemy.

2:48:52Like you're wearing the uniform of the authority. And you're a person. Most cops are just fucking people of all cops. They're just people. Yeah. Just humans. But you put him in a fucking outfit and you give him guns like, well that's, you wanna talk about a responsibility difficult to handle. Oh God. That one's crazy. What a dude. There's like some jobs in this world that I think about and they're like, mother fuck, ER doctor. Oh my God. Fuck that. Trauma doctor, fuck that. Police officer, it's like, God Christ in heaven, every fucking night. Every fucking night. You're just driving around. You're thinking about your fucking kids.

2:49:31And you get a weird call. And the next thing you know, there's some dude running at you with a chainsaw that you're begging to stop because you don't wanna fucking kill him. Right. Oh, what a horrible job. And the amount of money you should get paid for that versus what they make. Like. Big, big gap. Big gap. Big gap. Yeah. And then you're getting PTSD. You're not sleeping in. Right. I was watching a video today of a guy telling a guy not to reach for his gun. He's got some guy pulled over and he's like, do not reach into your band. Don't reach for that gun. Don't reach for your fucking gun. And the guy's like, stand there with his hands like this and he just goes in and boom, the guy's got to shoot him.

2:50:12And you just do just reach his for his gun. And then there was another one where they didn't realize this guy had a gun. He shot one of the cops and the other cop unloaded on him. Like, fuck man. Like every time they pull someone, this is like some regular look and do too. He didn't even look at your criminal. He looked like a handsome young guy. Just and then he just had a gun. He didn't look like a homeless person. Didn't look like a next con. He just looked like a regular guy and they pull him over and they got, they took him by surprise. Can I just pull the gun out and start shooting? Like they never know when someone's a full on psycho.

2:50:44Yeah. You're pulling people over and you're a cop and the lights are on. You got them in that pressure situation. Maybe they have warrants. Maybe they did something horrible just now and you didn't even know. You just pulled them over luckily. Yeah. And they just shoot that you, Jesus. And so they have that fear every fucking time they pull someone over. Yeah. Yeah. And it's so funny, dude. I got in a watch in those sovereign citizen videos. You ever watch those? Oh, those people are hilarious. And the cops, like, they're so sick of it. And they like, it's the funniest thing to watch them like deal with their like fifth sovereign citizen.

2:51:17He's like, it's so, but it's on top of all that other shit. You know, possibly getting your shot or the person you're working with gets shot. Also on top of that, you're having to deal with like that other, just the other element. Well, also everybody's lying to you. Naturally. Everywhere you go, you're running into people that have created problems. And when you talk to them, they're lying. Like that's gotta be like 90%. Have you ever had a drink, sir? Are you drinking tonight, sir? You know, like, why is she unconscious? Like, what happened here? Why was this blood coming from? Like, who hit this person?

2:51:55Who, you know, what happened here? All day. All day. Yeah. Every day, every day, everyone's lying. And everyone looks at you like the professional enemy, especially if you have to work in an area that's crime -ridden. Dude, there's a great app people can get, man. I can't remember the name of it, but like, when you get pulled over, you're about to get popped. You just start the fucking app because it tells you what to do, like, so that you don't like you, you don't have to like infuriate the fucking cop. There's just exactly what you say, which is basically like, I'm gonna need a lawyer in my under -rass, like all this stuff, but not so you don't have to like remember all this shit.

2:52:29And so what, because what that does is if you do get busted, if you do this just the right way, then you have a higher chance of whatever the fuck you did being sort of dismissed. Throwing out. Throwing out, like, I can't remember the name of that app. It's take the right steps. You took the right steps. Cause it's good to know those. It's taking, criminating. Good to know those steps, cause by the way, that's the other fucking thing. Like, their job is not to like suddenly befriend you at 3 a .m. when they fucking pull you over, be your better. Get ya. Their job is to fucking find out that you commit a crime.

2:53:00Right. And if you fucking are so dumb that you admit to that, then that's kind of your fault. I mean, that's your fault. So those, like that app, I wish I could remember the fucking name of it. Dude, I have to be a third time. Me too, thank God. I'm getting pulled over app as a few of them. I'm getting pulled over app. Okay. Let's wrap this up. Duncan Trussle your book one more time. Oh, the movie of me to the movie of we. It's an audio book, not a book. It's available on Audible. Audible, yeah. It's only on Audible. It's not really a book. Okay. But it's on Audible, the movie of me to the movie of we.

2:53:36And then your podcast. The Duncan Trussle family hour. And I'm gonna be the Denver Comedy Works in January. Please come, you can find the greatest clubs ever. The ink, it used to be the great, it was greatest club before you fucked everything up with the mothership. But you define all my dates at Duncan Trussle .com. All right. I love you. Love you. Thank you everybody. Bye.