#2088 - Yannis Pappas

25:16Right. Why didn't they do the rewiring? All they had to figure it out. Yeah. Yeah. But that, the fucked up thing is that trauma that you experience as a child or those bad, what the traumas of very overused work, some people experience real trauma. So let me say this, the negative experiences that you've had, both as an adult and as a child, those also made you, who you are, if you're happy with the result. Like, if you're happy with how you're living, you're happy with what you're doing, those things were important to go through, unfortunately. Well, it's not you could do about them. It happened.

25:52You got to make the best out of them. And a lot, you know, a lot of people do make the best out of them and turn them into something. A lot of people do. Yeah, it is possible. And trauma's not necessarily the thing that happened to you. It's how you react to the thing that happened to you. I think everyone's different. Everyone has a different level of sensitivity and that circumstance and genetic code. I can't really judge anyone's trauma. So you could never know how another person feels. You just can't know. You just can't know. And last year on TikTok. Then you could know. But yeah, I mean, if the human race has a chance, I think people need to start looking inward.

26:27Why am I really doing what I'm doing? Who am I really? What is this really about? Also, this is so temporary. We're treating it like it's permanent. It's so temporary. You're treating your own life like it's permanent. And it's so temporary. I've noticed a lot of successful friends I have. And a lot of successful people are so scared to just be happy because I think there's like this deep fear of losing it. Yeah, that's real. So it's like if I stay miserable, I don't got to focus on the fear of losing it. Yeah, that's really it. Because we all lose it at the end. It's that and it's also you have a real fear of not being able to keep doing what you do.

27:04Like whatever it is that you've done that's successful, you just lose the magic. You lose the thing. What is it? Now I suck. You know, like whatever it is. Now I'm not interested. Now I'm not interested. Now I can't talk. Now I can't do this anymore. I can't do that anymore. Nobody likes my music. You know, my movie suck. Like, yeah, that fear is crippling. It's crippling fear. Well, it's such a crazy fear. Yeah, it's funny the way things are set up here. It's just funny. It's like, hey, enjoy yourself. Accumulate all this stuff and then but you have to have this you have this knowledge because we have these big brains that like I you lose it all It's all going away.

27:38It's all gone. So not just that about everything it has. You know, they were they were given a hard time forgiving away so much money and giving people things. Yeah, it's like there's this is not mine. I'm renting this. Yeah, and it's you know, confony make comedy makes it everything okay. Yeah, that's why I think makes it more fun. It makes everything okay. It just it conquers everything. Yeah, it just it means you're when you have a good sense of humor and when you're laughing in the right way not just cackling by yourself in a room But it just means you're mentally healthy. It's a sign of mental health and strength when you can laugh at horrible things.

28:13That's the way you conquer them. Yeah, it's also a sign that you're recognizing nuance and you're playing with it. Yeah, like it doesn't mean that you really think that this tragedy is great. Right. You just find something horrible to say that's hilarious about the tragedy. And sometimes you can only do that with your friends. You can only do that at a deli. Yeah, you can only do that having dinner. One o 'clock at the board, just talking shit. Yeah, making each other laugh. Yeah, but that's also a thing that I think we have really that we're really lucky about. That's our big gift. Our big gift is each other.

28:46Like as comedians, you know, I spend time with a lot of different people and a lot of, you know, different occupations. And I always can't wait to get back to comedians. I always can't wait to get back to the green room with the mothership. Can't wait to do sets on the road. It's just the conversations are so much more fun. They're so fun. Yeah, you can say anything. And it's just fun. Everyone's just being funny and smiling and realizing, wow, we're so lucky. We used to be open mic night comedians. And now here we are about to go do a sold out show. We're having dinner together at a restaurant and laughing.

29:22And then you go have fun. Yeah, you know, the people have fun. Yeah, yeah. It's beautiful. It's the ultimate connection. And the amount of love that you get back and forth, like the amount of love a comic gets, the amount of love they give, the positive energy, both, four and back, that's like very few people get to experience that in life. Yeah. You know, and it's the only place that comedians can get it. It's the mother comedians. Yeah, because we're jaded and you can't, it's harder for a wheat. Also, we can speak so freely. You know, you can go, there's this fucking bit. It's just dead. It's got a thing and it goes somewhere and then it drops off.

30:00And I don't know what the fuck to do with it. I've been trying to bunk you around with different ways to say it and switch. And they're like, hmm, and then everybody will sit around and analyze it. And while like analyze each other's bits. And like, you know, you don't have to say that part. Everybody already knows that. If you cut that out, it's shorter. You're right. What did I say that part? And then, you know, everybody just starts tinkering with stuff. And you can just like, openly tinker with like phrases and ideas and setups. Yeah. It's like a, it's so much fun. It's like architects sitting with their contractors figuring it out.

30:34Yeah. If you got a good relationship with the contractor, I would imagine the architects and the contractors squabble a lot. They do. I'm going through that right now. Oh, you're putting an addition on our house and yeah, they squabble. And I'm like, who do I trust? The architect of the contract. Oh no. It's a power struggle for the honest poppies. You get in the middle and it's funny because you, I don't know anything. So you just got, you're at the mercy. You're just so vulnerable. Yeah. I don't know anything about what they're talking about. And I'm like, just trying to look in their eyes and figure out which one's more honest.

31:04And I have no clue. It's just a guess. Yeah. That was someone who was telling me that about the World Trade Center. They were saying, you know, the World Trade Center was designed to be hit by a jet plane. And I don't know if they're right. But what they were saying is, do you know how much corruption there is in construction? Yeah. And I was like, no, how much? They go, oh, say if it's supposed to get five bolts, if you only use four, then much money you save over a whole building? If you make the steel that thick and stuff that thick, do you know what money's safe? If it calls for like half inch this, but you use quarter inch that, you know what money's safe?

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33:17But my point was always like, how the fuck do you know what's going to happen to a building until a plane slams into it and you get to watch? Right. Because there's never been a skyscraper that could hit by a plane before. Which makes me interesting. This is not how it should have happened. Like we have zero idea. Well, the, what it looks like other than 9 -11, when it's a plane. A plane. A plane into skyscraper. A plane hit the Empire State Building. Big one. What was that? The 40? Was it a propeller plane? No, it was a big plane. Like a jet? Yeah. Really? Yeah. How about it to fuck it up? It slammed right into it.

33:55Didn't you shit to it? No. B25 and 1945. Wow, that's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. So listen to pictures. I guess it would be viral. And the buildings fell not because of the plane hitters. Oh, shit. Yeah. Yeah. So that's a big -ass old -school plane. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's a propeller plane. Wow. Where did it hit? Bang right there. Wow. 79th floor. And it didn't take it out. No. They're built not to it. Is that commensurate though? Like how did it hit? Did it hit just the wing? Was it got trying to pull out? No, he, but look at that. No jet fuel in there. What's not? No, no jet fuel. Yeah. No jet fuel.

34:38Because the jet fuel, the heat from the jet fuels, what took down the trade center, not the plane impact, or they say. So they say. But that. So they say. Yeah. Well, you know what they are, right? I mean, well, they, you know, they did. I don't know what they are. I was, I was hoping I could just sleep that in. I don't want to get into that real soon with some like, Alux, the time is that depending on what you're talking about. Let's go to did it with Alex. Let's go to did it with Alex. He's been freaking me out lately. The 9 -11 is, it's, it's interesting to me. People ruin it by coming up with what they think happened instead.

35:06It just stopping at, hey, it's fishy. It's a little weird. Just stopping there. Because you can't know, you can't know what, what the actual conspiracy was. But there's a lot of stuff that doesn't make sense. I'm not 11. Well, whenever you run into a situation where there's a gigantic world -wide disastrous event, like that's, that's an event that the whole world knew about. But you lie about some aspects of it. Like one of the things was, what are the United States get caught lying about Saudi Arabia, about their involvement early on with funding? Yeah, they ignored it. I mean, the bin Laden family was flown out before.

35:49Weird stuff, yeah. Weird stuff. Weird stuff. Weird stuff. Like, what if I wanted to do that? Would you be mad? But if I had some fucking dudes from Afghanistan staying in my house, and right after some shit went down, I illegally flew them out of the country. Listen, it's cool. Yeah. It's cool. That sounds like what a criminal would do. That's right. That's right. But it just sounds like what a criminal would do. Yeah. Look, if I was running cocaine with the Colombians and right before the FBI came, I fucking shot some planes illegally, fell with coke back to Colombia. I'm like, listen, don't, it's time.

36:22Don't worry about it. Yeah. It's okay. It's guys good. But you know a lot of fly right now. It's okay. It's okay. It's just, yeah, it's criminal. It's just criminal enterprise. Yeah. It's okay. It's okay. We're just going to fly. We're not going to tell you. Yeah. We're going to take the family of the dude who set this up and we're going to just fly. We're going to get them all out. You should the fuck up. Yeah. Shut the fuck up. Hey, shouldn't we keep them here and investigate? Yeah. It seems like there was some sort of a connection with Saudi Arabia. Shut the fuck up. Yeah. What about Iraq? That weapons of war.

36:51They're going to kill us all. We're going to all be dead unless we get in there right now. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah. It's sort of like with the Epstein thing. It's like, isn't Gat, I just call it gasoline because like, hey, pronouncing your first name, just line. Just line. Yeah. Why not? How come there's no, they're not interrogating her. How come they're not? She's just sitting there and they're like leaking these slow leaks about. Oh, it's even crazy. It's like you talked to her. They have. Is nobody asking her any questions? Like she knows everything. Torture her. We can't ask her. She says everything.

37:21Any questions. It's not, it's not proper. And how is she just sitting in her man? She's like, while this was all going down, she's just sitting there. They can't find her. She has a bit of rest. She's in a cabin in New Hampshire. Yeah. You can't find Ben Laden, but you can't find just a lame Maxwell. Well, they found her. Yeah. They found her a while. Well, she's so low. You know, Ben Laden had the whole network of people protecting him. Yeah. I guess. Yeah. Well, the craziest theory is that they didn't shoot Ben Laden. They shot Ben Laden's double. That's why they got rid of that. Like, there's so many.

37:53Waco, fucking flat earth conspiracy theories out there about everything. Yeah, but some of them are not. Yeah. Some of them are just because people have access to information now and they go, wait a second. You know, I also think. Seneca. Yeah. I think there's a lot of really dumb ones. And there's a lot of ones that are like a little smarter than dumb. And then there's a lot of ones that are really smart. And there's a lot of ones that are like, oh my God, if this is true, this changes everything. And they all lump them in together. It's genius. It's genius. Because if you only look at the ones that like the Federal Reserve isn't federal, wait a minute.

38:27Where's it? Right. What the fuck's going on? Yeah. You know, like when you just look at one or two of those, it's so confounding that that's actually taking place right now. That you need like a little flat earth road in there, a little fucking pizza gate, a little Hillary Clinton's laptop. They're eating babies a little, you know. So you can sneak in Epstein's Island. Like that was a real place, man. Yeah. That was a real place. And the way a place like that can kind of fly under the radar is if there's a bunch of fake stuff. So you don't go to an article. There's an alien base. You know, there's like the more nutty shit they can get you to think about.

39:06The more real things you should be really concerned about sneak through. Yeah. Do you think that's intentional? 100 % spiral with others. Both. Yeah. Both. I think it's both probably. Yeah. It's both. Yeah. But it's they're playing on the fact. Even if the government wasn't encouraging people to go insane, they would still go insane. They would still have conspiracy theories. But without a doubt, foreign governments are on TikTok and on Instagram and on Facebook. And they are influencing people to go in a very specific direction. And how much of a percentage is it? If their algorithm encourages like trans positive content, how much does that move the public narrative?

39:48It's not zero. It's not zero. No. So if you got two ships and they're both going in the same direction, parallel lines, and I could turn this one ship just like that. Just a little bit. I just need like a couple of degrees of turn over time. That motherfucker's going to be way off course. Yeah. I think that's happening for that fucking shore. That's the way war is waged now. Yeah. It's also being it's also happening with people that think they're doing the right thing. Like we were talking about Google the other day and like how YouTube censors things. Like what they think they're doing it. They think they're doing the right thing.

40:24Right. I was reading. Did is this true that gas digitals all their stuff got taken off the air? I think they got taken down again on YouTube. I think yeah. I don't know if you mean like their website and everything. No, the they're YouTube page. Yeah. They got taken down again. Yeah. There's one video where this comic that works at Lewis was saying that all they were doing in this podcast is talking about how big a guy's dick was. This guy had a giant hog. They were talking about this guy and they got they're shit removed for that. It's up now. It's back. It's a different page. Toads back. The specials and stuff.

41:00Yeah. So what were they saying? Oh, is it maybe I'm looking at something maybe it was a clip of something that happened in the past. Yeah, I don't know the specifics of it at all. It was one of those. It was either an Instagram reel or one of them YouTube shorts. You know, one of those things like that. Yeah. He was talking about how they took it down because he was talking about how big a dude's hog was. Yeah, that doesn't seem. Oh, it's bullying. Yeah. It is big day. We're talking about Jeffrey Epstein Island. All the people don't talk about his ranch in New Mexico. Yeah. And his mansion. I mean, it was it was popping off at all his spots.

41:33He built a 26 ,700 square foot mansion with a sprawling courtyard in the living room roughly the size of the American home. Nearby was a private airstrip with a hanger and helipad. The property also included a ranch office of firehouse and a seven bay heated garage. Yeah, that sounds like an intelligence agent right out of a fucking movie. Yeah. And we're ordering all the politicians into the honey pot. Yeah. And how many people died because of that? I hate we're never going to know they're never going to let us will never know what a fucking genius con. Yeah. What a genius con. You get some guy saying he's a billionaire.

42:12He just given like a fucking blank checkbook, which when you're spending 170 billion on Ukraine and 136 billion here and 40. We got to upgrade that and this is let these people in at that cost 30 trillion like fucking what's a billion that's right. Yeah. What's a billion to control literally the greatest scientists and entertainers and politicians and just get them all convinced. Yeah. Look bills here. Look. Look who's here. Stephen Hawking's here. Look. This guy's here. Look at this Nobel laureates here. Look at all these brilliant esteemed scientists. Look at these amazing conversations. Look how beautiful these women are.

42:51So like everybody says that you know if you went there, you'd be a real piece of shit. If you're going to a place where I mean what is the actual list? Who's on the actual list? You know, there's there's some pretty fascinating people. If you got invited to that party, you didn't know what the fuck is going on. Magician David Copperfield reappears Jeffrey Epstein court. He appeared with lawyers suggesting he traded tickets for girls tickets for his shows. Is it show that hot? Jesus Christ. How cheap are these girls? Because like what how much is this tickets to his show cost? And I don't know.

43:29I don't know the magic magic hierarchy. Talk about overvaluing what you're worse. Yeah. If you give me a sex slave, I'll give you tickets to my show. Take a sip of my magic show. Not even a Chris Angel show either. But what a brilliant move. If you can. I mean, here's a question one. Number one, were they all underage or some of them of age? Like do we know how that worked? Because even if they weren't under underage is the best. If you want to get some blackmail, that's the best. But you still bust quite a few guys with others. Oh yeah. Especially if you give them a little. Yeah, yo. Yeah. We're on an island.

44:07You're in the new world. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. With the elite. We're the fucking a little minority, too. Yeah. Just cheating on your wife is enough enough. That's enough. Yeah. Just we're publicly having it so that they can like trot it out there. Anytime there's an election anytime there's a this or there's a vote they want you to vote in one way or another way. They always have that. Always have that. Just a little reminder. You just keep that fucking thing in the back of your head. Like I got to shut the fuck up and tell the line. I got to shut the fuck up and tell the line. There's no better way to control someone.

44:41No better way. And it's. It's so brilliant and ancient. It's like an ancient strategy. You know, and it it was. First of all, is there another one going on right now that we don't know about? Of course. Like that at that level. Of course. It seems like that. So effective. Why would you stop? Like you. Yeah. I think you need a combination of things to do it at that guy's level. By all accounts, he was a brilliant guy, which is wild. Right. And you have to be also a sick fuck, which he obviously was. And also an intelligence agent. So do you just become that sick fuck over the course of like, you know, you hear about D .A.

45:23agents, they start dealing drugs. Once they get in there, they're like undercover and then they fucking live the life. And they start actually dealing drugs. It happens. Yeah. Do you think like maybe the guy just became a fucking sociopath psychopath so fast in just dealing with the life that he was that's his job. His job is to trick politicians, the fucking underage girls and get him coped up and bring him into this place. It's cameras everywhere. These fucking idiots don't know that there's going to be cameras everywhere. And you can you set this up. And this is what you do for a living for 30 years or however long he did it.

45:59It's fascinating to think about. I think two things. I think everyone wants to be someone. Right. Everyone wants to be someone, have an exciting life. And then I think people have a myriad of they have a, you know, just your moral compass from your family, whatever's on a scale. So that's a factor. And then but the more important factor is everyone has those moments in the life where things are offered to them. You know, and you know, you go this way. You're going to get some exciting stuff, but you're going to have to compromise your moral compass and yeah, people make that, you know, make that decision.

46:36Fame and power. It's like the ultimate elixir. It's also the people that you're around because like we were talking about like we love being around comics. It's it's fun. It's our lifestyle. It's how we like to talk. They like being around other sociopaths. They like being around other people that are taking over businesses hostile takeovers. They like to be around the guys who influence foreign governments, the guys who fly over in private jets and sit with their legs crossed with Italian shoes off. You know, and they have conversations about clean energy and you know what they really want to do is control the fucking food control the farmlands.

47:19You know, we have to reduce the methane from these cows and the best way to do is just take the cows away for the farmers. If we just control the cows. If we have a climate change mandate and we control the farms, that means basically game over. That's literally doing that all bad guys have a bridge access. There's no reason why you would say we shouldn't have cows unless you're a fucking complete so size sociopath. You you're not going after the coal plants first. No, you want people to get rid of cows. Are you sure this is a good strategy? Do you understand starvation? Do you understand how that works?

47:56You're not going to grow cows. Are you? No, you need someone to grow cows and you're going to take their cows away? The fuck out of here. Yeah, why would they want to get rid of cows? Because they want you to be completely dependent on them. The more you're dependent on them and the more they can tell you what's good and what's bad and what you shouldn't be doing. And, y 'all, as we looked at your carbon footprint, your carbon footprint is very problematic. It seems like in your job of stand -up comedy, you travel more than the average person and you contribute more CO2 and they show you a video of all and we're going to have to get you to stop.

48:35It's like for the greater good, for the greater good. It has some benefits. Social credit scores have a benefit. Things are cleaner. They run a little more orderly. Sure. You have to listen or you can't eat. It's horrible. It's a nightmare. But, you know, there is some things do run better. Well, it runs better for the government. Yeah, you have less dissent because you kill people. I mean China's doing a great job of showing how you can run it. You can run it. Yeah, they're just doing it. It's a nice tight ship over there. Nobody's J walking. Yeah, I tell you make an iPhone. That's how you make an iPhone over there.

49:08You get people to follow rules. Yeah. Nate, you know, if that comes over here, that's the end of creativity. That's the end of everything. Because you're just going to have to shut the fuck up. You're going to have to tow the line. And we already know that the line is nonsense. We know that the line is not really intelligent people that are assessing objectively what's going on in the world and giving you a reasonable version of the events. We know that's not really what we're seeing in the media. Right. We're seeing people that are deeply influenced by advertising budgets, by what kind of companies advertise on their shows, by the investors who own stock in the company.

49:51I mean, there's narratives and they're not necessarily even remotely honest. Right. Like sometimes they're off the charts fake. Right. Right. And they get printed in like major newspapers. Like some of the propaganda in the beginning of the Israeli Hamas war was that these Israelis bombed a hospital and 500 people were killed. It was printed in the New York Times. I remember that. Yeah. They didn't hit the hospital. They hit the parking lot next to the hospital. I think a lot of that is the rush to to get to the story first. Like because there's so much competition. Everyone's just putting things out.

50:27Nobody cares about the retraction anyway. Well, the right also. That's a juicy story. Yeah. If Israel really did bomb a hospital. Oh my God. This is genocide. Yeah. You know, it really helps that narrative. Yeah. Like I was watching this documentary last night. And the media did that to this couple. They just because the movie Gone Girl was out at the time. So they just started calling her Gone Girl and she made up this whole story of being kidnapped. She did get kidnapped. She did get raped. But the media was just making fun of her calling her Gone Girl because it's a juicier story. They just ran with it.

50:59The police department too was all convinced that she was a Gone Girl. People just marketing and an advertising and subterfugit works. It just works. That's why advertisers spend billions of dollars on it. You know, Nancy Pelosi talking about it openly. Talk about the wrap up smear. No. You know, Nancy's been in politics for a long time. And she's genius with her money. She's very good. She beats the market a lot. It's amazing that someone who's never made more than $170 ,000 a year is worth $150 million. Yeah. And she does better investing in this stock market than Warren Buffett or George Soros.

51:35Yeah. She's always beating the market. So I don't know what happened. Maybe she had a senior moment and she just started explaining how you lie. And she. I mean, this can't be AI. Is it? I think it's real because it's from a couple of years ago. It's called the wrap up smear. Yeah. There's an AP that. Assessment that says it's been taken out of context. I was trying to get to what the context. What context could it be? She's describing a wrap up smear. So she was. Assessment says she was describing a tactic she used or she accused Republicans of against Democrats and other portions of her response not showing the clip Pelosi makes it clear she is not talking about her own party.

52:12Oh, I don't think I don't necessarily think she's talking about anyone in particular. What I'm saying is that what she revealed right is that there's a straight. It's a play. You don't like if you're a football player and they call a play. You know that play. You know like like our call back and stand up. This is what she's doing. She's talking business. She's talking business. I'm not saying she's even accusing anybody. I just claim was that it was the claim saying that it's how the Democrats get the media to. Oh, okay. But what it was fascinating to me about it was just this open admittance that it's all bullshit.

52:47Just just saying like not decrying this thing and saying it's a genuine problem with communication that we have deception. And it's tolerated and that it's not punished and that like a willful deception like this. And there's a thing called a wrap up smear and this is a horrible thing that they do. Wasn't that it was like this is how it's done. Right. Watch it. You go play for the beginning video. I think.

53:15You smear somebody with falsehoods and all the rest and then you merchandise it and then you write it and I'll say see it's reported in the press that this, this, this and this. So they have that validation. What's going on? The news person was talking about. I was trying to cut it off. Listen to her. The assault allegations against Brett Cavitt is where I was trying to not get too confused on what. Okay, so they were connecting it to the assault allegations against Brett Cavitt on the try to keep the Supreme Court, right? Is that what the Fox news story was turned into five years ago when this was posted?

53:50Yeah. But what I was getting at was just that she's describing a tactic. This is what we do. We, you know, we fake and then Johnny comes into the right. I pass off the football to him. He sneaks around behind. We run through the fucking line. Let's go. Yeah, she's talking business. Yeah. Even if she's not saying that the Democrats do it. This is how we do it. She's talking business. Yes. Yes. And that's how it works. And you're not, she's not horrified. Imagine if you were in that same position and you had been given information for whatever reason. The current administration thinks Janis Pope is let's have a very smart, funny guy.

54:28And he's going to be the guy that kind of explains what's going on. And you have to explain what a wrap up smear is. Would you not feel like morally obligated to say something about how atrocious activity like this is when it comes to critical decisions that people are making. People that are probably not that informed people that are going through their day busy. They have jobs. They have bills. They have stress. They have all kinds of stuff going on. They don't have enough time to pay attention to what's going on with us. A pretty good guy. So if you're like openly discussing strategies where you would deceive people in order to get a narrative pass.

55:09That's clearly untrue because you don't want that guy in office politically. And that's not horrific to people. That is anti -American. It really is. And you can think you're doing it because you're a good American. But that's how communism gets started. That's how dictators take over. They come up with justification for why they can bend the rules. The rules are the fucking rules. Yeah, once you compromise rules, that's what you got to let people vote. You got to let people. There should be. I think there's got to be a good news. What is that 1440 news? Is that what it's called? There's some news site that is a company.

55:53I think that's the name that I signed up for it. I don't remember what it is. They're trying to just give you facts with no narrative. Like here's the events of the day. Ground news. I love ground news. I don't know what the sources are. Look if they're on the ground. Well, what they're doing is they're trying to do it without a left wing or a right wing spin. Well ground news tells you it. That's it. 1440. I don't know. Is it? Yeah, that's it. Difficine up for it. I don't even know. I can't tell if this is a subset. 100 plus sources. You don't have to culture science sports politics, business and more all in a five minute read.

56:29It's people are if you're a fox news fucking zombie. You're a fox news zombie. You're not you're not checking what MSNBC has to say. You know, what's that? That Rachel Matt out lady. What's her take on this? Is there some fucking is there room in the middle here? You know what's what's you don't want to live in that living that where you live in the fox reality. You know, every time you know when has any fucking time, you honest. Yeah. Did it have time to be sorting this out so if you're fucking lying and you're doing it because you think it's a good strategy to get your politician in place. That's dirty.

57:08That's anti -American. Yeah, it is, but I'm sure it's the way it's worked. Bro, from the beginning. Think about what they took Nixon out for. Just spying. Just a little spying. Just a little spying. Not that big a deal. Yeah. And they don't want to do anything about the Epstein client list and they don't want to do anything about whatever the fuck Hunter Biden was doing with Russia. And Ukraine. Yeah, and China. Yeah. Yeah. What were you doing, bro? They're selective about what were you doing over there? Yeah. Hey, Joe, why does everybody have millions of dollars? Yeah. Where all that come from?

57:51Yeah. Why are you on the board of a major energy company? And you're a crack head. Why did is it's a curry favor with the vice president? Why did you buy and get a million dollar a year job teaching at you pen? Yeah. That was funded by a Chinese grant. Yeah. He also is funded by a Chinese grant. It happened right after China gave him a bunch of money. This fucking dude doesn't even have to show their these tell their what he's teaching there. Yeah. And he also plagiarized got caught in no consequences. Dude, we had Joe Biden night at stitches comedy club in Boston in 1988 when he was running for president.

58:35He got busted. I think it was Robert Kennedy's speech and someone else's speech. He used like big chunks of people stuff and he got busted pre internet. Yeah. And it was so egregious and so bad that we did Joe Biden night at the stitches comedy club where like you would go up and do my act and I would go up and do your act. We would just go up and do acts of our friends. If you just you know, we've said fit Simmons and I used to go and watch it. It was hilarious. Yeah. There's no consequences. There's no consequences. It's not just no consequences, but there's so many videos of him. People keep on talking about Trump lying and you know, Trump being bullied.

59:15It's like I'm not saying he's not. I'm not saying he's not crazy individual a bombastic individual. But why are you ignoring the other guys lies? Right. Because if you care about truth, we should be going shit. Look at this mess. That's what we should be doing. It's the same reason why those people won't say that Trump did anything good. He did do some good things when he was in office. He was right about some things. And he did do some things that were effective. But they'll never admit it because it's it's all team ball. The guy who's the head of Google. How do you say his name? Chimoff? I don't want to fuck his name up.

59:49Brilliant guy. But his take on it was he troubles the wrong guy with the right strategies. Wrong guy with the right message. Wrong guy socially, politically, lightning rod for the wrong kind of people. The right guy in terms of seems like those policies were more effective. There's just so many things that are fucking weird right now. That's a good point. Yeah. That's a good point. Yeah. Well, he's brilliant. Yeah. He's a brilliant guy. And you have to be brilliant to be someone who was at Google, which is an incredibly left wing organization. Like heavy, like most super genius tech people are very like left wing.

1:00:28And then to look at that in a nuanced way and to be able to step outside of the ideology and say that because that's the truth. That is the truth. Yeah. He was a early second Facebook. I'm sorry Facebook. And that again, same kind of thing. Yeah, same. Yeah, super genius tech guy. And but the way he describes, you can find him saying it because the way he describes it, you like thank God he's saying that and not a moron. Yeah. Because what he's describing is the actual points and he's making very good points about it. Yeah. It's like, well, I mean, we're less dependent on foreign oil. I mean, he was right about the border.

1:01:05Look at the border now. The border. Yeah. The border now seems to be on purpose. It seems to be on purpose. It seems to be like there's some sort of a strategy to either flood the country. Tim Dylan thinks it's cheap labor for construction. He's like, that's gotta be true. It's gotta be a factor. It's gotta be a factor. Cheap labor is probably a factor. And then another factor is this push to have them be able to vote. You know, it's it's a weird one. Like they're doing that New York City. They're pushing to give illegals the right to vote. But then the wildest thing the Texas is doing is just shipping all the people that show up because the these states want they want sanctuary cities like, yeah, because you're not on the border.

1:01:48Okay, we'll just ship them to you. Yeah. So Texas is just shipping bus loads of illegal immigrants in New York. Like this is your mask. It's the perfect example of the difference between theory and reality. It's like everyone up there is in theory. Oh, love everybody. Everyone's great. There's no such thing as an illegal. And then when it becomes your problem. And that's why Texas is doing it. They're going, okay, now you're going to deal with what we're dealing with. So you're going to feel what it's like. And now you guys got to pay for it. And you have to figure out what to do and change your policies.

1:02:16Yeah. So it's it's it has. There's a lot of people in the left in the center. They're going just like make it go away. They're just going out and I just throw them in the water. Just make it go away. But don't tell anyone. Is this it? Yeah, that's it. Talk about Trump to arrangement syndrome. Yeah. Okay.

1:02:39Hillary Clinton. I voted for Joe Biden. But this is the honest assessment. The guy did for the things that he was supposed to do a good job. And for where every other president found a way to frankly make our situation a little bit worse specifically around wars. He did not do that. And that is a huge accomplishment that I think needs to be acknowledged as a Democrat who has been left homeless who is now definitely in the center, but probably leaning increasingly right. I'm left yet again with an appreciation despite the messenger of the message of the Trump administration because what those guys did was pretty incredible in hindsight.

1:03:23These Abraham Accords, the Accords with Israel and the GCC, the almost accord between Israel and Saudi. To really be able to like find a long lasting peace is just a real example for the world. And those guys still a lot of really good work. And it's it's a miracle actually when you look at it. What they did, you know, despite the fact, listen, no fan of Trump and I am too homeless. But this is where it's up. And I say, but if you want to objectively look at what they did that you have to it was you have to you have to and in fact, this is a moment where you have to start to reunderwrite like is one's Trump to range been syndrome causing more damage than anything that Trump could have actually done.

1:04:08And I think the answer is yes because like it's now causing us to not see that good work and then embrace and extend it so much of the work that happened to that administration turns out to have been right. And that's what's so frustrating for me the work on the border wall. We didn't like the messenger. So we killed the message turned out it was right issuing long term debt to refinance when creates were zero. We didn't like the messenger. So we killed the message. A structural piece in the Middle East. We didn't like the messenger. So we killed the message. When are we going to stop shooting ourselves in the foot and when are going to actually see and take the time to look past who was saying things and actually listen to them work for work.

1:04:56Boom. So good. Well, that's why he's going to win this election. If they let him run. He's going to win. Well, I think the abortion thing really shot the Republicans in the foot. I think a lot of women are not happy about that whether they publicly say it or not. I think it's a gamble. It's like what percentage of people are pro and what percentage of people are against and how many of the like the people that are actually going to vote the real hard core. Right. You know, red to lump dead. How many of those people are pro life, probably a good number. And the other ones are the other ones are not going to vote Democrat just for that issue.

1:05:35If you don't like I believe would trump everything except killing babies. I'm not going to vote for them in that. Just think you should be able to do that. Like well, very few people are going to do that unless you currently need one right now. You know, and then I sway your judgment. But very few people if like most of the chips are stacked in this one direction, but there's just one. Yeah, the thing is that the thing about it is the control thing. The thing about it that is it's kind of crazy is being able to tell someone what they can and can't do. And to say there's no debate. Right. Well, it's clearly debate because people have been having abortions all over the place and we're not putting them a jail.

1:06:11Right. So there's clearly a debate as to what that is. Yeah. And it's also that it's one of those things where it's like you're morally against it. So then if you're morally against it, then you don't do it and be morally against it. But it's one of those things that's going to happen. It's like being morally against something doesn't change anything in the real world. It's like with Israel and Palestine, like I'm morally against it. It's like, okay, what's that going to do? Right, but we're going to stop people from dying to an extent to an extent because once the baby is born, then we all agree you can't kill it.

1:06:40Right. So but that's so there's a number. But most of the world does like what? First term after first term is not good. Yeah, I think there's got to be a compromise. It's interesting because abortions aren't good. Even if you're on the left abortions, you can't say abortions are good. When the people that want them are, you know, like this, you see the video that trans guy, a trans woman rather who wants to be the first person to get a transplanted uterus, get pregnant and have an abortion. It's got to be a joke. It's good. He can't add comedy to comedy. It's probably a dude. Yeah. It's probably just a regular dude.

1:07:12Just thought it would be funny. Start tick tock page say the wildest shit for coming for your kids. I was thinking about the guy with a stubble in the lipstick. I'm like, that's probably not even real. Yeah, this one. But because they want to get an abortion trans woman to have a successful uterus transplant. Overs and eggs included. And I want to be the first trans woman to have an abortion. If this is true, it's comedy. If it's not, it's also comedy. It's China's victory cry. Yeah, we got them. That's what I think. I think China tick tock us into a fucking coma. They certainly have. Yeah. I think we did it to ourselves partially.

1:07:55But I also think for sure, just like I said, like it has an effect on narratives about which way people believe what they agree with and don't agree with. Whatever they can show you on that algorithm that shapes things in a certain direction. Well, I think they saw what our culture is about, what our weakness was and they used it against us. You know, fame, what we worship, Tom Cruise, fame. And then once they democratize fame, they were like, oh, let's use this. Let's promote. Let's make stupid people famous. Let's make simple things famous. Let's push these in the algorithm. So people see it because then Americans will go, oh, I can get famous too.

1:08:35And then everyone started becoming their own Madison Avenue agency marketing wacky, zany versions of themselves. If you know actors and you know actors, I know actors, not all of them. But there's a percentage of them that aren't even people. No, they're like vows of their fucking mind. And if you can convince that guy that wearing a dress to the golden globes is going to get him more attention, he's going to do it. Oh, yeah. He's going to do it. Yeah. He's going to wear high heels and you're going to tell him he looks fabulous. And this guy is straight as an arrow. And it doesn't matter. He's just gaming the system.

1:09:12Yeah. The people who are really in the fame, you can really convince them to do anything. Yeah. Because they want the fame. They want the attention. They want it bad. They want it so bad. That's the question. They want it so bad. They're obsessed with being huge. Yeah. And I, you know, I've met people like that. They're just they're obsessed with it. That's what they want. It's it's just what they want. It's how they're built. It's what they're into. And the producer puts his hand in your leg and grabs your hog. Yeah. Oh, I put I want the movie. And you do it. And you do it. And you do it. And you do it.

1:09:44It's so important. He grabs you by your hand. Takes you into the room. Oh, how bad do you want to be Iron Man? Yeah. How bad? How bad? How bad? How bad do you want to be Peter Parker? Yeah. It's so crazy. That's probably what tips and scales whoever is willing to do that the most. What Quentin Tarantino was telling us about this old director that literally had a bed room built into his office where he had bed the starlets. So he had his office. They'd go into his office and there was a bed in a room. And you take them in there and bang them all of them. You got to be in the movie. You got to fuck the producer.

1:10:22Yeah. Fuck you talking about. Yeah. Especially once you get that system up and running and you've created a few stars and you know how to do it. And they'll it's Frank. He's the guy who runs the office. He can make you famous. And he can. And he can. And he can. And he will. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting now because the world knows that that's the way it works because it does. It does work that way. Harvey Weinstein thinks. He's open up. That can't. It opens up. That is how it works. Yeah. That is how it works. A lot of times people who rise up in the system are bad people. Especially those kind of systems.

1:10:55Systems of power and influence. But I would say that that's like why was always talking about Hollywood in that way that that is like. It's a perfect proving ground for like the absolute worst way to develop a human being. You take people that are already fucked up and they need extra attention. And then they move to a place where they're surrounded by people who are fucked up and need extra attention. And then you make them compete to see who's worthy. And you go in there and pretend to be someone else and they decide whether or not they like you or someone else or his someone else. And you have to figure out what they like and try to be their friend and maybe bring them chocolates and maybe talk to them about the latest Roe v.

1:11:36Wade issue. I for one. I've always been with the woman's right to choose. And they'll like formulate their ideology based on whatever this group. So this group of people achieves ultimate power. And you know, like if you step out a line politically with any of those people, you're on that shit list and you're not going to be in that movie. 100 % you either keep your fucking mouth shut or you go and you worry about getting pink ribbon and you do all the things you're supposed to do. The black square on Tuesday. You do everything you're supposed to do or you're not getting in. And so everybody is just like this like weird shell of a person trying to figure out what's the thing they're supposed to say and what's the thing they're supposed to support.

1:12:21Yeah, it's a miserable way to live, but but it's a whole industry. That's how you make fake stuff. Yeah. That's the only way to make fake stuff. You got to get those fucking crazy people to pretend they're a minor. Yeah. There's plenty of those people willing to step up and act that way. It's just a terrible place to like be a human. And in that environment, it's so hard. Like I so admire actors who are cool. I so admire them. Because like, oh, you're just a guy. I can just hang out like Chris Pratt. Bro, he was if he was right here. He's like my friend from high school or something. Yeah, he's like a regular guy.

1:12:56Just happens to be a giant movie star. Yeah. Like how did you do it? You got through. You're all right. Well, his looks didn't hurt. It helps. Yeah, it helps. But you can also be a douche with looks like that. You can't be. Yeah. Yeah. If you are, it's like why? Right. You're one the lot of. You look like that. You're like, well, it's good. He's a fucking easy. Sweet heart of a guy. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of guys like that. Like I've always loved Ethan Hawke. He says a lot of profound things. He seems like a real normal guy lives in Brooklyn. Yeah. He seems brilliant. Did you see that new movie?

1:13:25The... I haven't seen it yet. What is it called? The new Netflix movie. It's an apocalyptic. Oh, it sucks. I didn't like it. Yeah, I didn't see it. No, I did not like it. Was it called the world behind you? The world behind you thought it's like I didn't like it. What did you not like about it? I just thought it. I don't know. It just didn't. I loved it. You loved it. Yeah, I didn't like it. Yeah. The only thing I didn't love is the animal showing up in the backyard. I'm like, just doesn't. That seemed a little over the top. It seemed a little over the top. If I think what I didn't like about it, it seemed a little over the top.

1:13:52Well, that was the theme of it. I liked how they kind of turned on each other a little bit. Yeah, but not too much. Not too much. But it's common. Yeah. Yeah. You think they're preparing us? Well, for sure they set up a book and a fair. For sure, Ethan's week and the other dude is strong. And you know, that's going to work out well. You know, I mean, there's not enough people. Yeah. Julia Roberts still looks great. Yeah. Yeah. You know, the thing that threw me off in that movie was the fake animals, the CGI animals. Like that does. You know, like you just took me away. You've developed this intense psychological thriller.

1:14:25You don't need to have this weird animal mystery thing. And it didn't even go anywhere. Exactly. Yeah. Well, there's no logic behind it. Yeah. There's no reason why the animals would all just show up in your backyard like that. And they never explained it or nothing ever happened unless you live in Texas. There are everywhere. But they're everywhere every day. Yeah. This. This. This movie was great and not so great in the same time. Like that part was not so great. Yeah. It didn't make any sense. But the rest of it did make sense that people do go sideways. You know, yeah. I thought that who was who played the guy that Oh, Kevin Bacon, the crazy guy underrated actor.

1:15:01He's so good. He's such a good actor. Very good. I would have liked to see him more. Yeah. That's the thing. There was one scene. I agree with you. This fascinating guy was already prepared. I agree with you. It was it seemed like that hole in the house stuff was like a little. We got it. Like you know, I'm not sure if you're going to be able to see it. I'm not sure if you're going to see it. I'm not sure if you're going to see it. I'm not sure if you're going to see it. I'm not sure if you're going to see it. I'm not sure if you're going to see it. I'm not sure if you're going to see it. I'm not sure if you're going to see it.

1:15:16Yeah. We got it. We got that part. Yeah. And also the tension didn't go anywhere. They want to be friends. Yeah. You know, like the girl and Julia Roberts, like they, they hate each other. they're bitching each other. Then they're hugging each other at one point. I'm like, what are we doing? Yeah. What why'd you make them fucking country to each other? Yeah. You know, that was just that. Yeah. I didn't love. I didn't think it was it could have been better. Why did he not have his wallet on him? Like, what is all about? This drives it with. Oh, I must have left it in my jacket. It looks fake. You're setting me up.

1:15:44Yeah. There's real drama. Yeah. The world is over. There's real drama. Why do you get this weird interpersonal drama? There it is. It was good, didn't it? Yeah, there was really fastening. There was this one weird moment where the daughter and what is the gentleman's name? Same guy that's playing bleed, right? I'm not sure. All the, I'm not saying that. How do you say his name? He's awesome. He was great, didn't it? He's awesome. He was great. It just like when the daughter said to him, you can't trust white people. Everybody got so mad. Everybody got so mad. Isn't this a movie where two black people are in a house with white people at the end of the world?

1:16:23You don't think that's a reasonable thing to say? No. It's also part of the black psyche. It's narrow, I'll be. They're always thinking like, can I trust this guy? Why wouldn't you say that you're a young girl? That's on brand. You're a young girl with tattoos and nose rings and you say don't trust white people. Yeah. Yeah. Why would people be upset at that? Yeah. You know, Obama made this movie. This is the agenda. No, that's not, watch the movie. That's not what it's about. Or hang out with black people. It's always a little something where they're, they always have it in their head a little bit.

1:16:53Or they always have a story. Yeah. What did he say to you? They went to some trauma. That's what he said to me. You're like, whoa. That one on one racism when no one's around is going to be the scariest shit. Yeah. That's going to be the scariest shit. Yeah, you can't just wash away that trauma. It happened. Yeah, but it's also, it's a movie. It's a movie about people that are experiencing heavy levels of anxiety. Yeah. Where the world is over. Yeah. There's war going on. No one knows what happened. Plains are falling from the sky. This girl's mom's dead probably. Spoiler alert. Well, everyone's like overreacting now to the, yeah, how that's been politicized, right?

1:17:30Like the race stuff and the DEI. So if they see any glimpse of that, they just attach. They get mad. Even if it's just a reasonable part of a story. Right. I mean, you got to give people room and fiction to make realistic human beings. If you don't think a realistic 20 something year old girl, who's with her dad, whether in a guest bedroom of their own fucking house, because these other people are being beat, but the end of the world is here. You don't think you'd have some fucking shitty things to say, especially if there's no one around. Especially if the woman who's Julie Roberts is acting like shitty.

1:18:01Yes. Yeah, it doesn't trust you. Yeah, everything everyone's so charged now on the culture war. You can't avoid. I just posted this clip on my Instagram where I made fun of, you know, because Trump came up in the releases and Clinton came up in the releases. Of course, they say it's all been, they go, oh, that's all been debunked. That's what the media says. Oh, I've been debunked. It's all been debunked. Even though they were, both of them were hanging out with that scene. It's like, what were you hanging out with them? Got what you guys golfing? What were you guys? There's photos of them all.

1:18:27Yeah, they were out. And Trump was at Clinton's wedding. Was that Trump? The Clinton's red Trump's wedding. They're all like, Clinton was at Clinton's daughter's wedding. Exactly. So, but I posted this clip and the comments are just people yelling at the other, he wasn't on it. They're just, they just can't see past. Also, those people, a percentage of them are bots. You think so? A hundred percent. A hundred percent. One hundred percent. One hundred percent. A certain percentage of those, one hundred percent, a certain percent. There's a certain number that are not real people. That's true. That is all what we were talking about earlier.

1:19:06Foreign governments, they found so many of these sites. They found so many of these troll farms. There's videos of them. The internet research agency in Russia is completely dedicated to trolling America online and dissolving our faith in democracy. That must be a fun job to wake up to do. Amazing. You wake up. And they're just like, those are funny. I had Renee DeResta on. She is one of the people that investigated it. And she said there was hundreds and thousands of memes. She was in some of them. Really funny. Like a really laughing. Well, I'm like fucking documenting these things. It makes sense because I was thought like, who's sitting around making these memes?

1:19:41Like, well, there's got to be somebody's job to do it. There's definitely some of them are just funny people. Because my friends have made memes. They sent me memes. Because it's about something that we did. Yeah, yeah, it's very funny. I love memes. It's my favorite. It's my favorite kind of comment. I know you sent me sometimes, sometimes. Yeah, they're great. I don't send you enough. I get a lot of good ones here. I'm like, you should one that we could never use on the air. Because it's... But I'm gonna just show it to you real quick. Because it made me laugh so hard.

1:20:11It's horrible. It's horrible. It's horrible. It gets the point across. It's horrible. Oh my god, there's so many of them. You just laugh so hard. There's no victim. No, there's no victim. Yeah. It's just... It's just... It's a one -on -one thing I've sent to my friends. And they sent it to their friends. And we're all sending to each other. And I don't know where it came from. You might've come from a troll farm in Macedonia. No, that word it seems because it has no political implications. That seems like it was probably made by somebody. Well, I have really funny sets of humor. One of the things that they detailed is that they developed pages.

1:20:47So they would develop like an Instagram page or Facebook page based on something that was popular. So maybe they would use Janus Popus clips, right? Use a bunch of clips of you and your characters and all your bits. And then they do it without your consent. And then they develop a channel. They did one with a Barbie channel, like fans of Barbie dolls. They did one with like Legos. Like they'll... And then once they accumulated a following, then they'll switch it over and have it become a meme page. And I've seen this before. I went to one that I found the other day because sometimes if a meme just stumbles across my Instagram, I'm very curious about this whole process.

1:21:22Like who's making these, where are they coming from? So I clicked on the link and I went to their Instagram page and I saw a bunch of memes, but also a bunch of weird stuff and some weird political stuff. And I'm like, what is this? So I scroll way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way back. And in the very beginning, it was just like a regular page. It was like they were promoting something, like some gaming thing or something like that. And it was just a regular page. And I think they'll do things like that just to try to get some traction of following going and then they'll start launching things.

1:21:55Well, that you could hack the algorithm just because the algorithm picks up on the engagement. It's all computers. Story in the Rolls -Tree Journal from a few years ago talks about a Los Angeles marketing company that got a bunch of smaller Instagram accounts to give them control. They do that. Then they started posting a bunch of Russian troll propaganda. Yeah, they'll do that. They'll trick you until like giving up your passwords and we'll handle this for you. We'll manage things. And yeah, I have a friend who was, she was gonna do like a podcast with this, she's a musician, Suzanne Santo. And she was doing this interview and they were gonna do it live on like Facebook live.

1:22:38So you get like a video stream. And so she's like, I'm not sure how to set it up. They're like, oh, just give us control and we'll do it and we'll do it on your screen. So she, you know, files all the stuff and enters in her code and her password and sends it to them and then they just shut off. Wow. And then they just took over her account. And they've been doing it to a bunch of different artists. So if you have 100 ,000 followers or 150 ,000 followers, now they just take over your account and then they sell Viagra or fucking, you know, Bitcoin or whatever it is. You can't get it back or... Well, she got it back.

1:23:10Yeah, she got it back. Luckily, she, you know, protest and she knew people and she got it back. But you could lose it forever easily. Russian trolls made fake kid rock fan accounts in full Donald Trump Jr. That's what I'm saying, man. It's like, it's not a small number of people. No. I think it's a lot. Yeah. Like, I think Renée de Resta was speaking about this from the 2016 elections. Yeah. Well, remember that whole, the kid, the Covington kids. It was some account in Brazil that edited the video to start it. So it looked like the... Like he came up to them. The guy, the kid came up to the...

1:23:47Is that what it was? Yeah. It was some account in Brazil, some fake account in Brazil. Interesting. And yeah, they look for moments to try to so discord. 100%. Yeah. The more they can get us at each other's throats, it's... It almost seems engineered. It is engineered. But I mean, it almost seems engineered that we fall for it. Well, I think... Our government doesn't step in and say, hey, look at what's going on here. We need to figure out a way to mitigate this. I think they have been. I think they've been bringing it up. They've been trying to. What they've really been doing is trying to get at people that criticize the government.

1:24:19That's what they really try to do. They try to ban accounts that do things that they don't like. That's what that's been doing. They do show in the Twitter files. They, for sure. But there's not the same kind of emphasis in going after Russian trolls that are trying to so discord and try to encourage reasonable conversations. There's not emphasis on that. Well, I think that's more the social media company's response. Billi, I don't think they wanted to do it because it inflated engagement and they could go to their shareholders and say, look how popular our pages are. We got a trillion members in half of them are fake and look at all this engagement and half of it's fake.

1:24:53They don't want to say half of it's fake because it looked good for the stock. We've talked about this before, but this is guy who is a former. Was he an FBI security analyst? Is that what he was, Jimmy? That said that 80 % of the accounts on Twitter may be fake. That makes sense. 80. It's a lot. Because you always meet regular people and they're like, what? Did you see what happened on Twitter? They're like, what are you talking about? But I don't know what that means. Does that mean 80 % of the accounts where people have burner accounts or what percentage of them are just burner accounts? Because there's a bunch of, I know some comics that have burner accounts or say, wild shit.

1:25:24Just on, it's logging through a fucking VPN and say some wild shit. Yeah, I don't have any burners. I don't have any burn, I don't have any time for my own accounts. Yeah. I don't want to do a burner account. But if I did, you have some fun. I'd have some fun. There's a few I follow on that. They get people on the ESPN and the repost of fake tweet all the time. Yeah. Like daily. They just ward it or make the meme or the picture looks so good or so right. And it just sounds outrageous enough. So and so is fighting about something crazy and they just repost it without checking into it. That sounds like me.

1:25:59How many times have we had something that I heard? And I'm like, what is this I heard? And then Jamie has to look at it. But oh, this is what it's actually done. Oh. That happens. Yeah, that's the world we live in. Listen, that's what happens when you, if you want to do the show for real, like this, like if you want the show to be what it is, which is just talking shit in real time, you're gonna make some mistakes. I'm gonna say some things that I heard about. They might not be true. Yeah. But is that really my fault? Like, should we really be paying attention to that or should we be paying attention to?

1:26:30How are we so fucking confused? How are there so many trolls? How much money is being spent to make us mad at each other all day long? A lot of money. Yeah, and from how do you develop immunity to that? How do you develop antibodies to that? How do you develop an ability to just not be affected by that? And to have some sort of a moral, ethical personality compass where you know where north is? Well, this is all new. Never before has so much information been available to people in so many different versions of reality presented. So it's new. Whatever is gonna emerge, it will be like some sort of superhuman who can be able to have unbelievable intuition and just know maybe like this will force humans to evolve to a point where we can like mind read or any little face tick will be able to tell if you're lying or something like that.

1:27:24Everyone else will get fooled, but the ones who be able to tell the truth will be able to just like really, like, ah, his eye move, they know he's lying. Yeah, like think about like voice memos. You know how you say voice memos? Like you could say into your phone, call Janus Popus today at four o 'clock. And it writes it down in text. That's kind of how a computer is at picking up whether you're full of shit. But you're a lot better than that. If you're talking to someone, like why didn't you meet us there? He's like, oh, there's this thing I had to do was like, I forgot to tell Mike. I left my keys in my house.

1:28:00You know, like there's something about the way they're talking. You're like, oh, he seems full of shit. Like you just pick up at it. Or like, are you mad? No, I'm not mad. Okay. And there's something. You're like, no, you do your mad. Tell me what's going on. Why are you mad? What's going on? Just let's talk. Why you mad? Computers are not mad. Computers are going to say, I'm not mad. Okay, good. It's not mad. But you're like, dude, you're upset. Let me ask you this. Do you think it matters? Do you think the truth matters? Does it matter? In what way? Like is there like massive consequences to living in a fantasy world, or believing lies, or making up stories, or stealing stuff, or plagiarizing?

1:28:44Like, you know, Biden was caught doing like, you know, he was the Claudine Gay was a big story. Now they're going after Aikman's wife. Like does it matter? Does originality matter? Does being genuine matter? And why and why not? Like it's an interesting thing. Because I think this is definitely not the era for being genuine. This is the era of like, I want to make you believe what I want you to believe for my benefit. I tend to be a glass half full guy. So I say, no, this is the age of being genuine because that other stuff is everywhere. And if you want to really just have actual connections with humans, just actually be a real human.

1:29:24Like be there. And the only way you could do that is if you're being truthful. Now, if you're plagiarizing, and you're also trying to connect with people, and you're trying to pretend that you're the person that figured these things out, I don't know you. I don't know your capabilities now because they've been greatly inflated by you repeating someone else's work and trying to pawn it off as your own. But that's rewarded. It seems to be rewarded. It's also a blast. But it's being busted now. But we're being busted. And when you step out a line like Claudine Gay did at that when they're speaking, was it a congresswoman they're speaking to?

1:29:59They were asking her about like, is saying death to the Jews, is that harassment? And they're like, is it if it's actionable? They're like, well, it's the craziest thing about this. What were they wearing when they said it? How did they say it? It just shows how far this mind virus is taking people in academia. They're literally out of their fucking minds and they're shaping young minds. And they're influenced heavily by foreign governments that has always been the case. That is what Yuri Besmanov talked about in the 1980s. That's right. I've seen that video. That video is wild. And he talks about introducing Marxism and Leninism into universities and education and making, changing the narrative for young people, destroying their faith in democracy.

1:30:48And it's exactly what's happening. And these people are a part of that system. And they don't realize how fucking crazy it is. How fucking crazy it is that you're doing this. Yeah, they just, they don't realize you're being manipulated. They don't know what the source is. They don't know what the intention is. There's people in San Francisco with the mass on, dancing around. Because that's their world. That's their environment. Their environment is fucking crazy. Everyone's kind of in a bubble. It's interesting. And as comics, we meet, we see the different bubbles by going from this city to that city.

1:31:21And you're like, well, a lot of people, most people don't get the opportunity to do that. So they just think their bubble is the way it is. Yeah. And they don't see the other perspective. Yeah, if you don't travel a little, you don't meet different kinds of people. You don't know the different kinds of people exist. When I lived in Boston, you get used to that kind of people. You know, like fucking hot ass, if I can just hard working, no bullshit. I got to shovel snow people. Is there a version of you that stays in Boston, meet some wrong Italian kids? You get a nickname like Joey Mulekicks? Yeah, I could have said fuck you, kid.

1:31:58Hey, if I didn't do stand up, I would probably still be there. Yeah, I don't know how I would have figured out a way to travel the country without stand up. Yeah. I don't know if I would have gone anywhere. I probably just stayed in Boston, complained about the winter every year. Yeah. Maybe a bunch of my friends as we got older, we decided to escape to Florida. Yeah, you got all inclusive, maybe a little can't -cune action. No, I'm not gonna live in can't -cune. No, doing all the vacations. Yeah, I'm talking about moving. Oh, moving. Oh, that's the dream. I'm gonna stay. Oh, yeah. But most likely, I'm gonna stay in Boston.

1:32:29You're not gonna move to Florida. And I'm not gonna be going on the road, like as a comic, you do ridiculous year in Ohio, then you're in Mississippi, then you're in Florida, then you're in Michigan, then you're in Nevada, then you're in Utah. Yeah. You're going all over the fucking place. You're a comedian. Yeah. That's an education in humans. Such an education. Yeah. Such an education. I speak to my brother all the time about that. Like he doesn't see the world. He lives in DC. And sometimes I'll send him stuff, like, you know, making fun of Nancy Pelosi or whatever. And he like, just can't.

1:33:05He can't process it. And I'm like, you live in a bubble. You just sit on it. And at one point, he was like, I do, and I want to stay in it. I want to stay in that bubble. Well, if you're busy, I get it. Yeah. For them, the answer is truth important? No. No. Can they get Uber Eats? That's where Netflix is on. Is Netflix on? Are they getting a raise at work? And we're not really a truth -seeking animal. The truth is uncomfortable. The truth is uncomfortable. It's tedious. It can be vicious. It can be mean. We're not a... Depends on... That's why I think we're so susceptible to marketing and advertising.

1:33:38Nobody wants to know the real truth. Nobody wants to know the sausage is made. Everyone wants to just believe the image that they see on the screen. Nobody wants to know the truth. That's why I think there's often not a lot of consequences when people are caught being inauthentic because people want to believe it. Like, who do you blame, really? I mean, the Connor or the Cond? I mean, the Conder complicit. You want to believe. I think we're about five years away from mind reading. I think it all goes out the window. Once we can mind read? God. Yeah. I think within five years, it's all out the window.

1:34:11That's going to be interesting. Have you seen the new Galaxy AI phone? I'm not scared of it. I've been in these new Galaxy AI phones that translate in real time. No. They translate in real time in language, audio rather, and in text. So you have a phone. You set the phone down. We would have a phone with set it down here. And one half would be facing you. The other half would be facing me. The text is upside down so that you could read the text. And I would say into it, in whatever language. Hey, you honestly want to go to lunch. And it would translate into whatever language you have. And then say it out in real time.

1:34:46So the way it's when it sets up, to do it like where you see. So you can do it a couple different ways. One, you can do it when you're calling people. That's not a call that one on the screen. Yeah. So you're calling people. And as they're talking back, it will translate it in real time. And it will also translate if you're wearing, I think the Galaxy earbuds, it'll translate it in audio. So it'll give you whatever that person saying in English. Wow. And then you say it back to them. And it will translate it in Thai or whatever they're speaking. Wow. Yeah. We're headed into an interesting play.

1:35:23Right. So once you get to that, once you get to this, language is no longer barrier. So this is the beginning, right? This, this Galaxy I, this is like the best smartphone that you could buy right now. This is the beginning. And then what this is really is like Atari, right? This is like some shitty pixelated version of a video game that you play. Within 10, 15 years, it's going to be the Unreal 5 engine. It's going to be some insanely sophisticated way where the moment you and I talk, we're going to have earbuds in and we're going to be able to speak all languages. I'll know exactly what you're saying.

1:35:58You'll know exactly what I'm saying. And it'll be razor focused. It'll have it down to, there'll be a few confusions and words and stuff like that, but they'll iron that shit out over time. And then there'll be universal discussions. Universal talk. And then we'll all be connected into some sort of a hive mind, some sort of a matrix of frequencies that the brain is interacting with with all the other people around it. So you're going to be able to do all this without using words. And we're all going to be reading each other's minds. You're going to know intentions. You're going to know truth. You're going to know deception.

1:36:32You're going to know hate, anger, lust. You're going to know when someone wants to fuck you. You're going to know when someone wants to run away from you. You're going to know everything. Wow, that's going to be, that's going to, it's going to be a different kind of person. It's going to be a different kind of world. People would say, oh my god, that, I mean, what would we even be then? How could I live like that? How could you live the way you live now in a metal box with rubber tires going 70 miles an hour down on a hardened surface they threw over the grass? So you can get to your air conditioned house where you got a refrigerator with food in it and sit in front of a television that just like pumps in other people's artwork into your fucking brain and see it pass out.

1:37:10And then you wake up in the morning and do it all again. You don't think that's crazy? It's a great description of it. That's fucking insane. That's insane and that's everyday life. That's normal. It's normal to be completely connected to your phone. It's un -incapable of leaving it in the house and going for a walk. Yeah, yeah. And we live like that now and we figure it out. So we'll figure it out. It's common. It's going to be a totally different way of thinking just like right now with the internet and with the access to information that we have now. It's a completely different way of finding out what's true or what's not true.

1:37:47Yeah, even if you think about the way the world's changed just by how criminals can't get away with doing crime. There's cameras everywhere. There's DNA everywhere. I think that's probably why serial killers have gone away is because they have a... Well, I mean, they've lessened a lot, right? Yeah, but there's a lot of random. You could do random stuff. Robot, reimagine, re -imagines the digital experience with AI -powered R1 device, what is that? Oh, rabbit. What is it? I'll show it at CES. I'll show you the video that Lewis made from Unbox Therapy describes it pretty quickly. I'll show you to find a better video, but this I think does a really good job.

1:38:20This kind of replaces the phone and we'll see if people really figure it out. It's easier on their new AI -powered device. It's got a grill on it. It could be for the speaker. It could be for the mic. Oh, it's definitely a hardware device. Oh, there's the mics on the top. It is like voice as the primary input. It has a rotating camera, and I saw a little SIM door as well, so it was cellular, so stand alone. Start my morning routine. Order me an Uber. Check the fridge. Order the ingredients to make that again tomorrow. Watch what I'm doing here. Process all my new photos today, just linked us. Okay.

1:38:54Massage my prostate. Yeah. Well, I mean, feed me cake. Massage my prostate. It growled my wife once a day. And it goes, can't compute. It costs 200 bucks, and it's coming out very soon. Mm -hmm. But I can't do stuff for you. And how - Right, but the thing about phones is social media. It's TikTok. It's YouTube. It's Instagram. It's being able to see things over and over and over and over again. If that doesn't have a screen or that little bitch -ass screen, and it's mostly just talking into it. That's - There's other devices that are coming out now to replacing that. There's these very simple, they're cheap to 27 inch screens that will follow you around your house.

1:39:31What? It's all the time. 27 inches. Yeah, touch screen. It follows you. It's full of apps and shirts and Android device. So, wait a minute, does it float? It sucks. Like a robot? Right now, it's like a little Rumba robot that can charge for seven hours. You imagine everywhere you walk you with giant screen. With you, you get nothing done. Yeah. Yeah. How about the Apple goggles are coming out? That's the other part of it too, is there - You're going to decide if you want to wear these goggles, or here's the LG one. So, what I was saying though about that Galaxy phone is AI that allows you to translate like that.

1:40:00Now, it allows you to do a bunch of other different things. One of the things that allows you to do, like if there's a photo, like if someone sends you something, you just circle it and it'll do an immediate Google search of what that thing is. It'll tell you what that thing is. It'll either, you can buy it. It'll give you like links worth for sale. It'll give you a history on it. It'll take you to a Wikipedia page and whatever that thing is. Yeah, it's like ChatGBT does that pretty well now. But it's in your phone. It's in your phone, yeah. You just circle things. Yeah. It just goes right to them.

1:40:27Yeah, it's crazy. And it's also able to summarize things now. Like see, like say if you sit down with your phone and you make a bunch of voice notes, like you're going to rant about something. You're like, I know there's something funny in this. I don't want to work it out totally on stage. Let me work it out in my office. And you just go on a rant about this thing. It will then transcribe it. And then you could say, summarize this for me. Wow. It will summarize it into bullet points and paragraphs. Yeah, well I know now. I can phone! Yeah. With ChatGBT, you could go on there now and go, give me a joke in the style of Joe Rogan.

1:41:02Yeah. And it'll give you a joke. And then people could probably just change a few things. It's going to, I don't know what being genuine is going to mean in the future. Well, I think it's going to lead us to be more inclined to give into this mind reading thing. Because the opposite is going to be too much chaos. It's one or the other. It's either a complete chaos. You never know what's true or you know everything is true. And we all have to agree that this is the best way. The thing about that is if you know, if everybody has to wear it, dictators, everyone, that ruins the entire hustle. It ruins everything.

1:41:39Instantaneously, you can't pull off anything anymore. Right. All the people in Congress that are committing insider trading, all the people that are in the military industrial complex that are inflating dangers to try to get us involved in a military conflict that's going to get them involved. They're going to make a giant fat contract. They're going to make large dollars. And then if you try it all, if you try to persecute somebody for a thought that they had, then they'll find out that if you had the same thought, then you're full of shit. Or they'll also give why they mounted you for that. Are they really upset?

1:42:12Are they being charitable with their assessment of the way you think in behave? Or are they just trying to play some stupid social game and win some little conflict with you and just get... You think it'll get that sophisticated? We'll understand the context of your feelings. 100%. Yeah, I think it'll be a new language. I think it'll eventually evolve into a universal language. So if we're going to be interconnected with AI, which with this new Galaxy phone, the S24 Ultra, you clearly are interconnected with AI in your phone. It's actually built in your phone. They've engineered the chip to work specifically with AI in that phone.

1:42:55This stuff is only going to get better, man. Right. It's only going to get better. And I see it getting better to a point where we're probably going to be integrated physically with these things, whether it's something that you wear, like a little headset that you wear, or something that they put in your body. And it's going to be way better with it than it is without it. In the beginning, most people aren't going to do it, but once they get it dialed in and they've developed some sort of whether it's neural link and there's a bunch of different competitors that are doing similar sorts of technology, once they figure out a way to really enhance your brain and really enhance your ability to gather information and process information and supercharge it, everybody that has that will have such a significant advantage over everybody that doesn't, that everybody is going to do.

1:43:48We have a real risk of people not doing it. Right, people are going to have to do it. Right, because what if Kim Jong -un does it and just takes over the world? What if the people that do it just are the worst people alive and they just use that as to, we're going to lock everything down, starve the world out, central bank digital currency, fucking drones everywhere. No one gets away with anything, no one gets a chip but me. Right, right. You become a god. And there's no way to stop the progression of technology. The only way is an asteroid. Yeah. Something big. We'd have to have a natural disaster that sends us back into the Stone Age.

1:44:25That might be the only way to stop AI. Right. Well, hopefully we can. Or nuclear war. We can divert that with nuclear weapons or something. Maybe that will come in handy. I don't think they can do that. For something. Yeah, they probably can. Hopefully they will be able to. Maybe. Someday. But right now, I don't think they can do that. I think we're pretty far out. Yeah. I think some is going to hit us eventually. Oh, 100%. Yeah. Something was going to hit us. And look at the moon. It's just been fucking hit for some time. Yeah. Yeah. It was like a teenage kid with terrible acne. Yeah. Looks like it's bad.

1:44:57Accutane commercial. Yeah. Yeah. We've been hit, man. 100%. And then we're going to get hit again. We're in a shooting gallery. Yeah. Flying around to the universe. Shooting gallery. There's things just flying out there. But they can mad race. It's a mad race to get to the point where you can defend it. Have the technology and the ability to manipulate whether it's asteroids, comets, natural disasters, super volcanoes, being able to manipulate things in real time. Once you have kids, you root for them. You're like, let's do it. Let's keep going. Yeah. I can understand people don't have kids. Like, what's who cares?

1:45:31Let it blow up. What'd you have kids? You're like, no, survive. Let's all survive. Keep it going. I get the, I don't want to have kids. I don't want the responsibility. I get it. But what I don't get is that, you know, we don't, the world doesn't need more people. Do you like people? Because I like people. Love people. My favorite friends are people. Yeah, that's what we're doing here is making people. Yeah, that's what we're supposed to do. I love people. I love people. The idea that we shouldn't make more people seems fucking insane. It's crazy, especially when you do it, and then you feel the love that you have for your kids, and you're like, this is the greatest thing, and then you just become a better person.

1:46:06Yeah. You just become everything about it is positive. Everything about having kids is positive. For most people. I can't see how it's negative unless you're fucked up person. Yeah, but if you're a little bit of a fucked up person, having kids makes you a better person. I've definitely seen that happen before, where people experience the love of their child, and they just straighten their life out. Yeah. But I've also seen people fall apart. Yeah. Well, you know, some people just, they fall apart and some people fall apart. But they were going to fall apart over something else anyway. Yeah, anything.

1:46:40Yeah. Some people just, they want, they get addicted also to being picked up. They want to fall apart, because they want all the attention that comes with falling apart. Yeah. Because you've got your borderline personalities, and yeah, people like that. Yeah. It's, humans are fascinating. So fascinating. So they're more fascinating than the universe. So complex. It's, it's why like one dimensional politically minded ideology driven people online are so insane to me. Like so insane to have that view of humans. You have this completely binary view of humans. This, the good people and the bad people, the right and the left, and like, you know, the morons and the smart people in the room.

1:47:25Like, okay. Well, we have these loopholes in our, like the confirmation bias. We have these, just these loopholes where we can be manipulated. It's just, it's how cults get started. Yeah, it's just, it's there. It's a weakness. It's a vulnerability that people have that they're almost defenseless to. Like they're subconscious and there's, there's people can't, there's manipulative people know how to hack that shit. They know how to manipulate. They do it. They do it very effectively. Marketers do it all the time. Advertisers do it all the time. And it works. There's this guy, Darren Brown. Nobody explained it better than Darren Brown, who's this medium.

1:48:00You know who he is? I've had him on. Oh man, he's the, he's, if everyone just watched him manipulate, and then explain how he did it, you'd be like, yeah, we're, we're all prey to this. Nobody can see it coming. Yeah. That one episode where he convinces that, I think he's a famous comedian in England. It was the craziest thing. He brings him in. He makes him write a week ago what his ideal gift would be. And then he makes a put it in envelope and his ideal present and seal it up. And then he brings it in. And then he brings it in a room. He puts him through this whole thing and he goes, okay, now what's your ideal present?

1:48:39And he changes it to the thing that he wanted it to be. Like it's a red bike. I want a red bike. And then he opens the box. It's a red bike. And then they opened the letter to see what he said. And it was a leather jacket. And he even, he forgot what he wanted. And he said, I walked into the room going, it's going to leather jacket, leather jacket. But he manipulated him with suggestion and images and words that he said. And he changed what his actual ideal gift would be. And it's like, and you go, and then he explains to you how he did it. He shows you how he did it. You're like, none of us have the defenses to stop that.

1:49:14That's crazy. Well, it's just like that thing that you were saying that you do for your mind. EDMR. Like there's a, you can kind of like hack it. You hack the brain. And then reprocess the memories, which essentially after you reprocess the memories, you end up remembering them that way. And the emotional charge gets removed. And that's how it goes. Now, imagine AI hacking it. Yeah. And that's what these chips are going to be. That's what these things, whatever these things are that are going to be in your brain. They're going to map it out. They're going to find out why things do this and why things do that.

1:49:49And then just reprogram the whole thing. It's going to be crazy. And it's going to happen in our lifetime. It's crazy. We're the last of the meat humans.

1:50:01We're going to have metal in us. Yeah, not just metal, silicone, technology, batteries. We're the last of the meat humans. Do you think our body is going to reject it at first? People will get like infections, cancers, like you can't just put something in the brain. The body rejects foreign objects. Yeah, it does, but it doesn't. Pacemakers work. A lot of things. True. You just have to find something that's hypoallergenic and find something that's maybe organic. Something that the body will integrate just like it integrates with titanium neck discs. True. It backs and... Well, you got to take like the malt, diaphyiotics and shit.

1:50:36No, you don't have to if you get like plates in your arms and shit. No. Like if you get a broken arm and they put screws in there and plates, you don't have to take antibiotics forever. You do initially. Yeah, not just because you've been cut. It's really as nothing to do with the metal. It's you've just been cut open and you're exposed and you get immersed in medication, resistance, staff infections. No good. Those put people in the hospital for months. They kill you too. They kill people. Yeah, that's some sketchy shit. Yeah. So like if you can put like a titanium rod in your shin, they could put a little fucking thing in your spinal cord.

1:51:11That's good. That's a little fucking little thing that you screw in place every day. You leave it charging by the bed when you go to sleep. You screw it back in place. It's good to get into the real nature. What would a conversation be like if we knew what was going, you'd be like, yeah, it's calm down. I know you're nervous. Just relax. No, no, no, that's, you'd be like, no, no, no. Well, the argument is we're going to create an artificial life. And I'd be like, Joe, pay attention. I know you're thinking about Marshall. Stop it. I'm here. It would be like, it may be weird at first. At first? Probably annoying.

1:51:43Yeah. It'd be the end of our. I'd say thank you and be, and Jamie would be like, for what? Well, Joe just thought that my hair looks good. We just said thank you with your mind. Yeah, you would go like that. So we just sit in silence. Yeah. We just sit and make facial expressions at each other. That was one of the first things he launched about it. He said he's going to be able to talk with that words. Yeah. Do you think he'll be more like a socially good when you're, yeah. You think his mind version will be like really on it? Like as far as like timing and socially. Because sometimes he'll pause, you know, you ever, he, but he pauses because he actually think he's thinking he's not bullshitting you.

1:52:23Yeah. If you ask him a question, no, it's a complex question. He'll, he'll sit there. Yeah. And he'll run it through his head and really think that's, that's it. The sign of a genuine and genuine person. Yeah. That's not a person who's just bullshitting from the masses. I, it's, it's understandable that he's socially a little weird because his brain is doing a lot of fucking shit. Yeah. His brain's going through a lot of things. Yeah. I asked about it. I'm like, what's the like being you? You know, see what it wouldn't be me. His brain is just going. Because I thought everybody was like that when I was young that everyone just had these ideas just running through their head all day long.

1:52:55Yeah. They took him a while to realize. Yeah. Some people, some people don't. Some people don't. Most people don't. But I mean, that's the kind of guy you need if you want someone to make some extra cars and rockets and fucking satellite internet. Yeah. And buys Twitter. And that's why you need a system like we have that allows those people to rise. Yeah. Yeah. Well, also you need a guy with balls. Like Elon had the balls to step in and buy Twitter. Yeah. And reinstating the law. How the fuck it's shaky ass people. Yeah. I mean, that's a loss there because the average guy is probably like, hey, who are you putting back on?

1:53:32Yeah. And then he said when they were like, you're going to blackmail me with money? Fuck you. Yeah. Go fuck yourself. Go fuck yourself. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's really how he feels. Yeah. When you've got that kind of scratch and he just keeps making more money, you know, how much the SpaceX is going to be worth. You know, how much is, how much is the boring company going to work once they start actually fixing traffic with tunnels shooting cars on the ground? I mean, this is an insane guy. Well, he's essentially done what like Walmart does to small businesses, but he did it for a good reason to try to promote free speech because Walmart just goes in, loses money for a bit until they, they charge you cheaper, lose money for a bit until they put you out of business and then they recoup their losses.

1:54:12Well, I wouldn't connect it to that. I wouldn't compare it to that. What I would say is this is probably for what I've read. I haven't actually discussed this with him. But what I've read is that this is one step in a multi -step process of turning Twitter now X into an app you use for everything. Oh. Use for banking. They already have an AI that's attached to it. Was it called GROC? Yeah. Why is it called GROC? What was GROC stand for? GROC means like do you understand? Because the word GROC means like do you understand, do you fathom it, do you? Oh, really? Yeah. Like do you grow in English?

1:54:46Oh, really? GROC. Oh, shit. Yeah. Whoa. Oh, that's a perfect name for AI then. Yeah. That's the... That's so cool. I've literally never heard that word. It's not a word used a lot. It's not a word used a lot. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. So they have the AI, right? So they have GROC. Now just think about how much open AI is worth. The AI model called GRO... Oh, you son of a bitch. She's mother fuckers. Yeah, they always make you try to subscribe. Mother fuckers and you're... God damn. The AI model called GROC and name that means to understand and tech circles is designed to answer questions with a bit of wit and has a rebellious streak.

1:55:24So please don't use it if you hate humor. Or you can announce it in the company's website. Okay. But how much is open AI worth? And how much is that company worth? How much is chat GPT worth? Just Google that. What's chat GPT worth? So chat GPT is the one that people have been using and talking about more than any of the other ones. I do know that Microsoft has one. So it's worth what? How much? What is the value of chat GPT worth? What is... How much is chat? Yeah. 29 billion. Okay. According to Zach Johnson .com. Open AI is an American research organization with a current net worth of approximately 29 billion.

1:56:12This one says 100 billion. This is December 23rd. So this is really recently. Open AI valuation 100 billion in site with funding round and that's from Fortune. Okay. So it's in site. So let's just call it 80 billion. Well, he bought for Twitter for 44. So even if Twitter is only worth 19 now, if this grok takes off, it is a potential to be a competitor to something like this and to be just as big. Yeah. If people really start using AI for everything and it seems like they're going to start using it and they can incorporate it into devices and a bunch of different things and different ways to use it.

1:56:46So you have that. Then you have multimedia streaming. He's doing the Tucker Carlson show, which is there. And I think you made a deal with... Don Lemon. Yeah. Who's going to watch that? Maybe it'll be a wild version of Don Lemon. I mean, it's a wild version of Tucker Carlson. Lickered up. Lickered up Don Lemon talking shit. Yeah. I mean, Tucker's not the same Tucker. I mean, he's interviewing the guy that con man who said he fucking blew Obama or whatever. Yeah. So he's having fun. That one's wild. Yeah. That one's wild. Yeah. What are you doing? What are you doing, bro? It's a little different.

1:57:21What are you interviewing the guy who blew Obama? That's crazy. Who had like a huge record of conning and being a liar. Did he have a huge record of being conned? Huge. Why do I want to believe him, though? Huh? Because it's fun. Because it's fun as fuck. But when you look into the guy, he's got like charges all, like his whole background is conning. Well, he's a hustler. Yeah. He's a gay hustler. I mean, that's basically what he's saying openly that he did with Obama. Yeah. The money he got Coke and gave him sex. Yeah. Yeah. And Tucker's like, I believe it. Tucker's like, I believe this guy. Yeah.

1:57:57He's so crazy to have that guy on your show. Especially when just googling his background. And like he's not a new guy. He's been around for a while. He's come up in other political campaigns and stuff. I think what Tucker's doing is brilliant. First of all, I think going over to Twitter was brilliant because like so many people were paying attention to it then. And the numbers were giant, like crazy numbers for some of the episodes. Then you go to a subscription model. Like $9 a month or something like that. Whatever it is. You know what people are going to sign up for that? Yeah. The subscription model is the best way to stay free.

1:58:28You got to stay free. Yeah. If you're not free, you're fucked. Yeah. The only way in the future is going to be the subscription models. Most of these companies, like if you're on YouTube right now, you have to watch what you're saying. I don't really want to Spotify. Spotify is pretty fucking good. Yeah. But for the most part with a lot of these social media companies and these companies that are producing these things, they have a very clear mindset as to what is acceptable and not acceptable. Yeah. Spotify kind of stuck by you during all these controversies. I want you to imagine if Tucker Carlson had a YouTube show and he brought on the guy that blew Obama.

1:59:03It was just a YouTube show. I'm tuning in even though I know it's a joke. Though you think they'd pull it? Though you think they'd mad at it? Well, let's imagine that Theo Vaughn has the guy on the blew Obama. Now it's over. Yeah. They're going to yank him. 100%. Probably yank Tucker more because Tucker was, Theo would probably have a lot more fun with that. Yeah, but you can get rid of Theo. And getting rid of Tucker is more of a stink. Right. You know, like Theo Peloton contacted him when he had Robert Kennedy Jr. on. Peloton was like, get rid of that episode. Right. And then Dana White found out about it throughout all the Peloton's.

1:59:40I heard about that. Yeah. Just like companies have a very clear idea of what you should be able to say and not be able to say. And for comics in particular, that's a real problem. Yeah, well, you can't blame the companies. They're just thinking about their bottom line. Yeah. I mean, we would do the same if we worked for those companies. Sure. Yeah. If you're just a numbers guy. Yeah, you're just another company. Hey, we don't want to be attached to that. Yeah, we need to advertise a revenue. It's not even about going like, hey, pro -con. They're like, we know Pete. It's a hot button topic for people or whatever.

2:00:11And we don't want to get into it. We want to sell bikes. That's why what Elon did is so wild. You know, that's really why it's so wild. I mean, everybody's back on X. Everybody. Hollywood Hogan. Hollywood Hogan. He's like Hollywood Hogan. He switched from old Hogan to Hollywood Hogan. And W .O. X. Everybody's back. Everybody. Everybody. You see everything up there. Mm -hmm. Yeah. It's pretty interesting in it. Well, yeah, there's a lot of good. But yeah, then, you know, I do. So I'm not so good. I follow some people who are straight Nazis. Oh, there's definitely a straight Nazi. Straight Nazis.

2:00:45Straight Nazis. The Taliban's on there. Yeah, I mean, everybody. Taliban's on there. The Nazis are on there. Maybe that's good, though, because then you can see them. And you know what they're doing as opposed to having them hide. And then you're not, you don't know what they're up to. Well, that was my argument about the feds infiltrating these terrorist organizations. Like, especially even things like, well, they couldn't even say if the feds were involved in January 6th. Of course they can't say. Because sometimes they have to be involved. Like, whether or not they did instigate getting people to go into the Capitol, and I don't think they wouldn't do that.

2:01:20But what's more important is, if you've got something that might be an insurrection, you kind of have to be there. Like, you have to, you're a part of the federal bureau of investigation. You have to look in that. But when it gets to like the plot to kidnap Governor Whitmer, and you find out that there's 14 people involved and 12 of them are FBI informants. 12? 12 out of 14? And these two fucking dopes get railroaded for the rest of their fucking life. For some cosplay scheme in their head. There's stupid 84 IQ head of going and kidnapping the governor. And you find out it's all set up by federal informants.

2:02:00Like, I think you do it at rock. Is that what happened? Yep. I'm not aware of that at all. Yeah. This is the greatest story. What has that? That's verified. Oh yeah. That's all it up. Jamie. Crazy. 12 of them were informants. Well, the head of the proud boys was an FBI informant. The head of the proud boys. That's crazy. He was an FBI informant. Yes. Wow. And they still put him in jail. It's dirty. Dude, they in dirty. There was a story, a whole white bull journey dirty. Yeah. They did that. Yeah. That's another one. Body Bulger was a fucking murderer. And he was working for the vets. And he continued to murder as an FBI informant.

2:02:40I think 12 of them were actually informants. But they may have actually worked with the FBI in some form. I don't know if it makes them an informant though. This is only four. Jamie, are you an informant apologize? That's what I'm getting out of here. It says only four. No, there's more. I know there's more. I was reading this very detailed breakdown of how many of the men had no connection to the FBI. Here, go to the AP news. FBI Lord Men says four though. I know. That's the thing. The four men charged with planning to kidnap. How many other people were there that weren't those men that weren't charged?

2:03:15Oh, the FBI informants weren't charged. They said they were swayed by informants. Exactly. How many informants were there though?

2:03:25Why don't you write how many FBI informants wit Merkidnapping? How many FBI informants?

2:03:4012 informants were ultimately involved in the investigation. That's what I'm saying. That's the number that I'd heard. A total of 12 informants. According to Buzzfeed. Well, I mean, this is right here is the New York Times. Let's see what they say. Sometimes we don't believe in New York Times. Sometimes they were wrong about that fucking bombing of the hospital. Yeah, they were. I'm pretty sure that's the story. I'm pretty sure there's 12 informants. I think I'm not the informant. Here you go. Here you go. The FBI deployed at least 12 informants as well as several undercover as well as several undercover agents according to defense filings.

2:04:16On the nighttime surveillance operation of the government's cottage, for example, the defense described Big Dan as the main organizer. Stephen Robison, with a long history of both past crimes and work as an informant, was there too. The explosives expert who could topple a bridge was actually an undercover FBI agent as was the man in another vehicle. The defense lawyer is using the same trove evidence material have built an entirely different scenario of what happened. They depict and accused as a reluctant puppets in trap by the FBI agents and informants, whom they say came up with the kidnapped.

2:04:50Oh, so it's a he said she said about whether they the informants were like just going along, getting the information or actually pushing them to do it. Well, they also had actual FBI agents that were pretending they were bomb experts. We're going to blow up a fucking bridge. Look, it's a scam. Yeah. It's a scam. You got to put out fire, so you start a fire. Well, there's firefighters that have done that. It's suspicious that the FBI was heavily involved the whole way through this. It seems weird as, yeah, that's an unwavered statement. Why didn't he just arrest them if you thought they were planning on that?

2:05:25So if you see them there doing that, then you could easily say on January 6th, they were there also rallying up morons. Right. The same type of people they would do that would do that. Yeah, and they probably were because there are videos of people opening doors and shit. Yeah. So those videos are not also telling people let's go. Let's go in there. Let's go in. People still went in there. They still did that. They don't do that. Yeah, you still have agency. You're an adult. They did it. Yes. But yeah, it doesn't seem as clean as people think. No. No, no, no, no, no. Because they definitely wanted to make Trump look bad.

2:06:00Oh, yeah. They were constantly trying to make Trump look bad. They tried to do it with Russia. They've tried a lot of things to try to get that guy. Yeah. And the videos that they show are like, like it's getting stormed by barbarians. And then you see that dude getting a tour. The shaman dude with a buffalo hat on. That's right. Getting a tour. The guards are taking them around showing them around. I thought he was violent. A lot of different things happen in different places. I thought there was an insurrection. Yeah. It seemed like a bunch of dopes just wandered into a building. No, what? They didn't know what to do.

2:06:28One guy though. One guy had zip ties on him. Yeah. I think it was different people had different motivations. 100%. And I think there might have been, if, I mean, there's your evidence right there. They were doing that there. There's a good chance they were doing that on January 6th as well. Kevin Bacon from the Netflix movie. He would have zip ties. Yeah. Right? Yeah. You're going to have different fucking people. You got different people. Yeah. And they're all going to that thing because they think that the election has been stolen. Yeah. Some guys are going to show up with zip ties. Yeah. And that's when it gets scary.

2:06:55Yeah. That's when it gets scary. That's when it's been interesting. And knowing what's true and what's not true is just, it's not as easy as it used to be. Nope. And it's only going to get worse with AI. AI is going to make things super confusing. Well, the scary thing about AI. The only, I'm more still more scared of people than AI. AI has been nothing but helpful to me. For now. For now. Yeah. I'm scared of people. People are do bad things. But where it can get very dangerous is if you do like an AI video of Putin saying we're launching nukes and then you think it's real and then we launch the nukes and yeah.

2:07:30Yeah, or fake, like actual fake footage of an attack. Yeah. We got to stop war somehow. Somehow. Somehow we got to fucking. How do we do that? Yeah, honest pop. Just like that. God. I don't know. Maybe get people to do this thing with the eyeball. Maybe the EDMR. Maybe sitting Putin down and be like, what's this really? What did your mother did? What? Let's talk about your mom. What's it about? And then sit down. I don't know. Because like you said, yeah. Obviously, NATO was interested in Ukraine. NATO's, it was interested in the former Eastern block as well. But the Eastern block is very interested in joining NATO.

2:08:09Finland's interested in joining NATO. So not because NATO's manipulating them. Like a lot of these theories just forget that these countries have agency. Oh, for sure. But that's not the theory about the red line. No, no, I'm just saying Ukraine. That's very specific. Ukraine wants to be part of NATO. They want to be a democracy. The majority of them do. That's why they're fighting. I mean, they're fighting. We're not forcing them to fight. Right. And they are fighting and dying. They don't want to be part of Putin's world. They don't want to be part of Russia's influence. Putin doesn't like that.

2:08:41And you know, all those other former Soviet republics too that are now, you know, part of NATO or aligned with NATO. They're aligned with NATO as a precautionary measure to against Soviet expansion or former Soviet expansion or the threat of it or they just don't. They just don't suck that you don't have to think about this. It does suck. But we see it from here. But when you go and you talk to people in Finland and places that the Soviet Union has. They didn't invade and didn't conquer and did force into their republic, you know, the USSR. They have a different view of it. I mean, you know, it's like it depends on who you talk to.

2:09:19Yeah. Right. So it's like, to your point, it's very complicated over there. It's like Israel and Palestine. It's, it is complicated. You have to go all the way back to the beginning because the Jews made that land important to them for religious reasons because they used to be there. So it's like you have to go all the way back to that in order to understand the conflict now. Isn't it wild though that from October 7th to January 18th, just a few months, it goes from horror and outrage at this terrorist attack on a, on a rave, on a music festival, entering these people's homes and shooting them and killing them and torturing them, sending them cell phone videos, are you killing and torturing people to their families?

2:10:01It goes from that to death to the Jews. Just a couple of months. I mean, the Jews, the Jews got sympathy for about a minute and 30 seconds. For years of ago we're lost. Yeah. But then you, you see what they did to Gaza and you go, yeah, that seems kind of crazy. That's the little heavy, that's bad. That's very bad. And I make sure you're raising it. And I make sure you're raising it. It seems like they erased the city. Yeah. Like when you, when you look at it now like from an overhead, what it used to be versus what it is now, have you seen that lately? It's horrific. It's crazy. It's a horrific and it's bad.

2:10:34And those people could never, I don't think, live together. And, like, that's a, that's a blow that you don't shake off. You don't turn the other cheek. And that's what they're doing and that's why they're doing it. They're doing that going like, but it also I think makes Israel look really bad. Look at this. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, the whole place. I mean, this is like, wait, are you sure it's not a lepago? Because I know a lot of times videos say it's Gaza and then sometimes it'll be Syria. I think this is what I thought it was. Either way, they're bad. This is the guardian.

2:11:04Yeah. So it's bad. This is the guardian. Sometimes you just got to make sure. I think the guardian's on it. Yeah. This is insane, dude. It's insane. No, they leveled the whole place. It's so much. Yeah. So much damage. And it looks like apartment buildings. I mean, bro, that is crazy. That's crazy. And if you watch the footage, if you've seen some of the bombs go off, yeah, it's brutal. It's so crazy what they can do now with these bombs. They're so powerful. Well, that's the, you, from the river to the sea or trying to say like that Palestinians are going to be repatriated. It's just, unfortunately, it's not going to happen.

2:11:39Like it, and you can't pick and choose, right? You can't go, hey, you know, we want the Palestinians to get their homes back and get rid of the occupier. But then what about the Kurds? What about the Armenians? What about the Greeks in Antolia? I mean, the list goes on and on and on of people who've been pushed out of their homes. And population exchanges. And what about the Jews in Medina during the Muslim expansions? What about the Jews in all the Muslim countries that were forced to flee when Israel founded? You got, you just go on and on and on. It sucks. What about northern, what about Cyprus, northern Cyprus?

2:12:11That was illegally, it's still, it was illegally invaded by Turkey after the, Turkey was formed. And then population exchanges happen there. Like people hate each other. And there's a UN line of a peacekeeping zone between North and South Cyprus. They hate each other. The Greeks want them out. But innocent people aren't dying anymore. So it's like you got to find a real world solution. You can't just keep yelling about who's right and wrong. And, and in dieting Israel for things that other countries have done. Are we going to give back Texas now? I mean, the list can go on and on and on. It's wrong, but it was wrong when the Romans kicked them out.

2:12:46You're going, oh, you're going 2000 years back. Well, you're only going 400 years. I mean, so what's the difference? We're all going back. I mean, the Jews were there. Right. I mean, yeah, the crazy religious zealots are fucking wanted because of Jerusalem. Jerusalem. And all these religions want, Christians, Jerusalem's important. Islam is important. You ever seen those radical Christians that go on that journey to Jerusalem? Yeah. And I seen the radical Jews who spit on them though. Wow, stop. Wow, shit. Yeah. But you got to find a real world solution. You can spit on them as they walk by. Yeah, they just spit on the ground.

2:13:19Yeah. Yeah. People are fucking nuts. They're fucking out of their minds. Do you think that my thought about mind reading software, universal language fixes a lot of that stuff? Yes, it does. It fixes a lot of it. I does, because I think what's happening to the Palestinians, unfortunately, is they're being used by surrounding powers as sort of like frontline Marines to keep this issue going to keep fighting against Israel and America's encroachment in the Middle East. And they just use these people and have you seen the border? Have you seen the border to Egypt? Yeah, it's more sealed than the one in Israel.

2:14:00Show the border to Egypt. Yeah, they don't let them in there either. But it's so over the top. It's crazy. We need that in Mexico. That was a dope out there. Get that going. Get Trump to look at that. Yeah. Because that's a real wall. Yeah. Good luck getting through that fucking wall. Yeah. Can you see if you can find that, Jamie? I just saw an article about it, where they were talking about how strict I don't know the one I saw it barbed wire all over it.

2:14:33Yeah, they got that motherfucker locked up. How long is how long is it? Good question. It's a significant border. I mean, it's not how big is ours? We got a bullshit wall. I mean, our wall or our border? Our wall. I don't know. The wall is bullshit. It's not a topsy. If that many people can walk through your wall, I mean, imagine those are the white walkers. Yeah, they would fucking kill everybody in Game of Thrones. The boundary between Egypt and Israel stretches 206 kilometers, 128 miles along the eastern edge of the Sinai Peninsula from the de facto trip point with Palestine, Gaza to the Gulf of, how do you say that?

2:15:12Acaba. Acaba. Acaba, AQABA in the Red Sea. Egypt and Israel made peace a long time ago, right? Like the 70s. They looked like I think Egypt was the first country to go like, all right, we're done fighting to make peace with Saudi Arabia. Yes, that was happening. Yeah. I think they have peace with Jordan too, right? So it's impossible. It takes four months. In 10 ,954 miles. So I think. But how much wall do we have up? 20 miles. We have such a bullshit wall. The wall is such bullshit. Dude, the left was so against the wall. And now I think a lot of the left is going like, yeah, it's built that wall.

2:15:50Just don't tell anybody I told you. Especially the people that are living in New York were at Governor Abbott's bus and Ecuadorians in by the fucking truck. Oh, dude, you see them. You see them. I've seen them. I've seen migrants. Yeah, I see them. Nobody's in. Nobody's in to it. Yeah, nobody's in to it. The most left people. Nobody's in. Well, that's reality. They're in four star hotels. They don't know what to do with. I know a guy who works on it. I know, you know, he's a, you know, he's a top level guy who is in the military and also NYPD and he's working on that. And he goes the scariest part is there's no plan.

2:16:27There's no plan. So they put him in hotels. Some of them are in the lobbies. They give him these food stipends. They go across the street, the arbys they eat. But there's no plan. There's no, they're just holding him. There's no coming in. They just keep coming in. Some of them are going back now because they're going like, we're not fucking getting them cold as fuck. Let's cold as fuck. They're going to Chicago. Yeah, the winner. But and there's just, and he goes, here's the taxpayers are paying for them and he goes on, the taxpayers are also paying for me doing overtime. Like I was assigned to this in addition to my usual assignments.

2:16:59I was assigned to this. A lot of people who are doing this on an ad hoc basis. It's an emergency situation. And so the taxpayers are paying us all this overtime money. So the taxpayers are getting looted. And it's happened so fast. And he's not a quacky guy. I mean, he's not a quacky. He's not a quacky. He's not a quacky. He's a very reasonable smart guy. And what is the solution? And this is how fast it's happened. I was, we did movie night the other night. We watched Made in Manhattan. Did you ever watch that? No. It's Jennifer Lopez. I know. I was not made. And Ralph Fines is a handsome politician.

2:17:37And she pretends that she's some socially accidentally. It's like something. Anyway, it happens in the Roosevelt Hotel. The Roosevelt Hotel is where they have these immigrants. That's right. So that hotel is not a hotel anymore. It's a ritzy hotel in this film where like it's a nice hotel. It's a four -star hotel. Beautiful hotel. Beautiful hotel. Well, now this hotel is flooded with immigrants. Yeah. Imagine you own that hotel. It's crazy. I mean, how does that work? Does the government just give you a contract? You say I'll take it? No, this may give you money. Not great either. Oh, he's terrible.

2:18:10He's better than the last guy, which is even wilder. Yeah, I mean, who knows? That's the blasio. He was out of his fucking mind. But this guy's turning it, I mean, talk about plagiarism. His book, he had to remove his book. So he wrote a book. And, you know, I guess people are looking for this now. So it's like half the book is plagiarized or made up. None of it's true. So he actually had to like pull his book. Oh, my God. Because it's like all lies. It's just happened. He was all in favor for the sanctuary in the beginning. The rich history of the Pakistani owned Pakistan owned Roosevelt Hotel in New York.

2:18:48Pakistan International Airlines has leased one of its most valuable assets, Roosevelt Hotel. In New York, the city's administration for a period of three years in order to raise money for its struggling economy. What's happened in 2020? So they're for Pakistan's struggling economy. So they're leasing out the Roosevelt to the city so that they can have money? Yeah, because the city pays them. Yeah, the city pays them. But what about just running it as a hotel? Is that less profitable? It closed. So that, it all started with COVID. Oh. It's going to be going to them. So they had to find a way to make some money off the bill.

2:19:22Also Airbnb has really hurt hotels. Yeah, in general. I bet. But not in Manhattan. In Manhattan, if you're in Manhattan, you get to stay in Manhattan. Yeah. COVID, you know, I'm going to see guns and roses at the garden. You're not going to fucking stay in a Airbnb in Long Island. Or a Kiltoni. Or a Kiltoni. A lot of my friends do that. They prefer Airbnb's over hotels. And I find it crazy. Like almost up the majority. I'd say 95%. Tim Dylan, until they banned them. Yeah. I mean, I'm in one right now. And Airbnb is a nice one. I'm in a nice one. Yeah, they're great. They really have hurt the hotel business big time.

2:19:56Just like Uber hurt the taxi. Huge. Huge. I mean, it's also it's a very interesting way to make money off of property. Yeah. And it's significantly more. And you could just rent it out to different people on weekends. And if you have a really nice place, you can make a ton of loot. You can cover your nut. Yeah. That's right. There's people that make money off Airbnb houses. Yes. It's a side business. That's right. It's the only thing preventing a black rock tape cover. And then you'll stay in weirdos, set up cameras to watch you shit. I'm actually was thinking that when I was in the Airbnb, I was looking for cameras.

2:20:27I was like, I know a guy who could sweep it for you. Well, I'm only there one more night. One more night. Enough of you to be whacking off of your shop. I haven't jerked off in five days just because I'm worried about it. Crazy. I did think about that though. Yeah, you got to do in the shower. Yeah, if you got a camera in the shower, they're real piece of shit. Yeah. But that's where you'd want to put it. Yeah, you'd want to put it in the bathroom. Or in the bedroom, like overlooking the bed. That's right. Yeah, there's an odd sprinkler above me. I'm like, what is that? It was one of the sons of one of the owners of Bucky's, which is the craziest station ever.

2:21:03I know, Bucky's. One of the sons got busted with a camera in the women's room. Oh, no. Was it the women's changing room? What was it? It would change your room at Bucky's. Me and my employees maybe? Dude, what don't they have at Bucky's? Yeah, exactly. You can buy lawn furniture, brisket sandwich. You buy everything. Anything. What happened? 28 counts of recording.

2:21:27CREATES PULED UP. Basically recording following disturbance at multiple residences associated with them. What is he filming? Camera, let's contain memory card loaded with dozens of videos capturing individuals in various states of undress in bedrooms and bathrooms. It wasn't at Bucky's. It was just that's just his link as he's the guy. Oh, so he did it somewhere else? At his properties he has all over the city. Oh, Dallas apartment, tell you right Colorado, on one Austin. So Airbnb's in. So he was doing that. That's it. There's other companies other than Airbnb that have that same service. Yeah, so brutal.

2:22:04Illarious. Creep. It's creepy. But the camera's just so small, man. Son of a rich man. Yeah, how do you make someone grow up normal when they grow up rich in a privilege? It's tough. Good luck. You know, the fate is usually DJ or drug addict for rich famous kids. Uh -huh. Scary. Yeah. Well, just being a regular person, it's hard. Yeah. Being a person when, you know, you grow up and your dad has a private jet and a yacht and owns an island. It's tough. And he hangs out with Clinton. Yeah. You don't want to work for anything. You don't know what the value of anything is. Yeah. It's been given here for free.

2:22:38Yeah. You don't know how to work hard. Yeah. I think athletics is a good way to teach kids how to do things. It's do difficult things and you learn from them. Art, anything where you have to actually work at something. You develop character from working at something. You teach your kids that, right? You're so good with time and balance. Like, because you're an involved dad. Yeah. How do you do it? Is it like... Well, I always plan it that way or like, yeah. You have to work. You have to plan it. But I also only do stand up for the most part three nights a week. Yeah. So four nights a week I'm always home.

2:23:14Unless I have to do road stuff. And sometimes I take them with me. And we go on vacations together. We spend time together specifically. We have like family days specifically. It's hard. And it's also they want space too. They're in school all day. And they come home. They want to decompress. And you got to know how to not be imposing but also talk to them about stuff, organize stuff to do. Make it fun. Yeah. We have a lot of fun together. Being a dad is the... It's just overwhelming. Yeah. It's overwhelming how great it is. It is great. It made me like be like, do I want it still do come? Like I just want to be home with my kids.

2:23:51And so the road got a little like... I had this real crisis where I was like, I want to be home. I don't want to miss time with my kids because that's where my parents did to me. And I'm like, it's hard. The balance is hard. It's hard. It's hard. And I remember I even asked you privately and you were like, no, that is hard. And you need to give you a solution. I was like, fuck, I was hoping for an easy answer. And you were just like, no, it is hard. A friend of mine... The other day was telling me that his son had some athletic event and he got it offered to do a gig in Calgary. Am I, because it important to him?

2:24:20He could work anywhere. You don't do that weekend. I could give it a second. I'll give it a minute. I don't give a fuck about the money. The thing is, if you're barely getting by, if you're kind of like scratching and scraping and you've got to pick and choose, is this advancing my career? Is this fucking me up? Is me not chasing my career gonna be a detriment to my family? Cause now we're gonna have a financial crisis. Yeah. So there's that. Just like you were talking about, people start making money and becoming famous. There's terrified it's all gonna go away. There's also when you're barely getting by, you realize, or you're getting by, but just like you're above water, but you realize one catastrophic thing and you're under and you're fucked.

2:25:02And then the house gets repossessed. And then you stay with your mom. Your kids are together in one room. It's a real fear. If you got a mom, if you got a mom, you know, what if you're in a shelter? What if, you know, what the fuck band? So it's like you have this intense desire to be a provider and you know that you have to put in the work. You have to, you have to be successful. It can make me way more successful. Like being responsible for little people and a wife and just the family thing. Like being responsible for stuff. And then now I'm responsible for like employees. You know, I can't just quit.

2:25:37Yeah, well I just quit. Right. You know, I have this whole club now, the podcast. What the fuck would Jamie do if I wasn't here? He'd be so bored. He'd be so bored. He'd get bored, he'd miss it. Of course he would. He'd be googling in the air. I don't know where with one hand. It's a real thing. It's a real transition when you have kids to, and it's a real pressure. What's a real, yeah. Reckon, life is finite. You have a finite time. There's a, you have a finite amount of time that's available to you living as an organism on earth. That's a fact. And I am already more than halfway through that.

2:26:15I'm halfway towards the end. And you have to maximize your time to the benefit of both yourself and everybody else around you. That's what you gotta do. You gotta be as good a friend as you could be. You gotta be as good a husband and as good of a father and as good of an employer, as good of an employee, as good of a neighbor. You gotta be the best. You can be at all these different things. Just do your best to have the most positive impact on the people around you. You're gonna fuck up. Everybody fucks up. We're humans. Correct that as much as you can. Express yourself as best as you can. Be as nice as you can.

2:26:51Try to facilitate and try to encourage fun and happiness. And love. And that's possible. It's possible in the community of people that you find yourself in. And if you can't, you need to find a better community. Or you gotta be a better person. Or you gotta be a better person. And that's all you have to be a better person to attract a better community. Yeah, whenever I see someone single and they're like, oh, okay, if I'm a better person, what do you have to offer? Like who are you? Like are you a person that someone would gravitate towards? Are you particularly kind? Are you particularly friendly and generous?

2:27:23Like what is it about you that you think you should have someone that makes your life better? Cause you probably ruin their life. You're fucking dower. You can play in all the time. You're so lazy. You never say that to somebody. But it wouldn't go that way. Get out of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at you, dude. The reason why you struggle is because you. And also your stuck because you're struggling. You're probably tired all the time. Cause you're depressed. So it's very difficult to gather up the energy to make change, to make like a radical change in life. To say today I'm gonna get up at 6 a .m.

2:27:53And I'm gonna go to that fucking yoga class. And I'm always saying, how am I gonna get to that 630 yoga? And then the alarm goes off and I like, fuck that, I don't really have to get up to eight. And I'm just going back to sleep. Or just go to that yoga class. And then eight o 'clock rolls around and you're leaving. You're leaving the yoga studio. You got your rolled up mat. You're with those other people. They're all fucking did it. Everybody did it. We fucking did it. We got up early. We did the 90 minute class. And now I'm gonna go to work. And now I got some momentum. But it's hard to just make that first step.

2:28:20And that's one tiny little step in this gigantic journey of self improvement. And if you don't take those steps at all, if you're that fucking dude that just gets at home and just medicated, watching Netflix, Uber Eats, Wake Up, do it all over again, you're gonna feel like shit. Well I think it's hard for people to take the first step. I think because a big part of depression is feeling like it's gonna last forever. It's kind of the delusion that that feeling pitches you. Yeah. It's a weird mindset where you, everything is poison. Every thought you have is poisoned with this negativity and you start to actually think back at your life and think that it was all that way when it wasn't.

2:29:01And that's it's hard to remember the good time. And yeah, when you're in a dark place, I think the thing to remember is that it doesn't, like the suicide comes in your brain as like an escape hatch. It's like you fight a flight thing going like this is an escape. It's trying to help. It's like when your immune system is overactive. It's like your fight a flight is overactive. So you have to remember that and just getting help. People sometimes just don't get help because of shame or whatever, but it always ends. The bad always ends if you put the work in and remember that it doesn't last forever and that.

2:29:39Your thoughts are not, it's a delusion you're in right now. It's not real. Like it's, your brain is playing a trick on you. It's not a real, it's not a reflection of reality. It's a reflection of the way you feel and the way you feel is fucked up right now. And that's changeable. But it's hard to realize that when you're in it and that's why people struggle with it and they make unfortunate decisions and some people take their lives and stuff like that. It's because they mistake it for something that's unchangeable, that's ever present because that's the way it feels. But feelings are now facts as bench -epiro.

2:30:16Ah! He's usually getting his feelings a lot. Yeah. But it depends on if Israel comes up. He's feeling, he's a good lot of feelings. Oh boy, he's all in. He's all in on feelings. When it comes to that. What a crazy world we're living in, Janis Popus. It's gotten crazy, man. It's gotten crazy. You got a couple of conflicts that you hope don't escalate and don't spill over. At least we still got shit talking. At least we still got a little stand -up comedy and some cigars.

2:30:49Comedy helps people. Helps me. Yeah, I hang out with Tim Dillon for three hours. Even though he has a doom scenario that he's painting, it's hilarious. He's so funny with it. And I'm just so good at it. I love to listen to him and let him go. Oh yeah. He just goes. We have great things. He's the absolute best ranter about current issues with no audience. Sunglasses on. Out of his fucking mind, making great points and also being hilarious. He is the best and he's original. He's absolutely original. He's been that way since the moment I met him. I met him when he first started doing comedy. One of the first shows he did was my room.

2:31:31And he's been that way. That's who he is off stage. That's who he is on. All his material comes from inside. A lot of people get there. I'm talking about it. It looks like cool, mo -day. Scull and bone sucks now. Give me some of this. They're doing diversity, equity, and inclusion in the illuminati. Scull and bones. Which is used to be just let's get a bunch of people that show that they can carry on the tradition of being a sociopath. That's what Scull and Bone's is about. It's like finding rich people that have a skill set that makes them look like maybe they can be sociopaths. And it's in Yale University.

2:32:18The CIA started. It was taken right out of Scull and bones. So many bones men have risen to positions of prominence and power, presidents, CEOs. We got it. A lot of white guys, a lot of white guys. It would jerk off in the coffins. It was very like Nazi. I think George W. Bush stole Jeronimo Scull and it was in the tomb. And there's all this secret in the tomb. And he bleeped it. Now it's a connoisseur. Yeah, he did because it's a short soul. Oh yeah, yeah. So if you bleep it, it cuts through the algorithm. Is that what it is? Yeah, oh my gosh. Curseing in the first 10 or 15 minutes. Yes. They're fucking you.

2:33:03They're getting you to self -sensor, even Tim Dylan. It's to beep things. Yeah. He's the guy. He sits. He thinks the material comes from his perspective. Yeah. It's inside. A lot of guys search around. They look outside and they go, I like that idea. And then they go, let me change it a little bit this way. He's actually got opinions. He's got opinions. He's got a form. And he could come up with material on his own. A lot of guys who end up taking stuff, they struggle. They're very good performers, but they struggle with coming up with material on their own. Well, it's because the very mindset that allows you to be creative is the opposite of the mindset that would make you play drugs.

2:33:35That's right. Yeah. And some guys are really good at marketing. And that's a big thing now. Yeah. And I've known a lot of people in advertising, mostly advertisers, they look at creative people, get the ideas, and then make a commercial about it. And a lot of it's borrowed from actual artists. So it's the same kind of mindset. Yeah. And it works. And then when you take an idea, it's easier because you can see it works. So you don't have confidence in it. You don't have confidence in it when it's going in. Well, that's why the comics get busted. They're specials after that. Always terrible. Right.

2:34:05Because the material falls off a cliff. They come up with their own stuff. They're fucked. Yeah. So they always think like if you make it and you're a fraud, you don't really make it because it's not you. Right. That must not feel great. It sucks. They're living hell. Janus Poppins, you're the fucking man. I love you to death. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Tell everybody where they can find you, social media, or the jazz. Yeah, please follow me. Janus Papis, wherever you do, also come see me on the road. Please, do you mind if I plug a data to? Plug some motherfucking days. Yes, please. JanusPapas .com.

2:34:37Oh, I put it on the airplane mode at a respect. Oh, here we go. Miami Improv, January 19th, 2021, Cobbs Comedy, and San Francisco. Good luck, fucker. February 19th and 10th. How you been there lately? I haven't, but I'm going to get it. I'm having the plane land in the club and then sleeping in the club. There's a shitload of stuff at land. And a San Diego, Stanford Connecticut, a Vick Theater in Chicago, Denver Improv. Toronto, I'm going to shoot my special. I'm shooting my special at the Royal Theater in Toronto, March 23rd, 24th. Oh, shit. Yeah, Cleveland and then the rest. That's good. San Francisco comes see me.

2:35:10Yeah, please rational people. And my podcast, the JanusPapas Hour. Yes, sir. Yeah, thanks, brother. Thank you. All right. Bye, everybody.

2:35:30All right.