#2090 - Bobby Lee

28:03Yeah, but I don't want them to feel bad like they're not hot It has nothing to do with them. I get it right. I'm just being like a nice guy. Yeah It's so sweet. Yeah, I'm super sensitive But it's like because I was in a 10 year thing and now I'm like single. So I'm just experimenting. Yeah, yeah I get it you do yeah It's still fun. Yeah, you're having a good time Bobby. Yeah, I am as long as you're enjoying life That's what you should be doing. You should be enjoying life. You know Joe wait where say yes, I am That's beautiful because when you weren't enjoying life, it bothered me It bothered me because I love you and like you're such a nice guy and you get weirded out by so many different things And like like what I would you you were just always paranoid that people didn't like you and you're you know You're always weirded out by stuff And well even me and you like we hadn't seen each other for six months like you still like me.

28:50I love you I'm talking about give me a hug Because we have history. Yeah, but a history is all beautiful. It's a beautiful history We have history of we've never been in an argument. No, we've never yelled at each other. No, we've always had good times Yeah, I've had a lot of laughs. We have oh my god some great laugh. Oh my god. If we had laughs. Yeah, oh my god We've had moments where I even recall that you probably don't even remember Like one time you and I were at the comedy store We're in the patio and Eddie Griffin bumped us Right and we were talking shit. So this must be early days early days back in the 90s right And then I remember there was a black guy near us listening And then he told Eddie Griffin that we were talking shit about him and he confronted us Yeah, I remember that and we were like fuck off ear man But it was like because you know what he used to do hours.

29:38Yeah Well, he would do three hours he would go on at nine o 'clock and your spot would be at 9 .15 and he would do three hours he was him dice would do it sometimes Men's here would do it all my god. Oh my god. Yeah, but it was the thing is it was the kind of the culture of the comedy store in Eddie's defense Is that if you reach a certain level of fame and at the time Eddie was definitely more famous than us and he was When I'd still to this day maintained that Eddie Griffin set on deaf jam was one of the best fucking I don't know was 10 minutes 15 minutes whatever he did is one of the best sets.

30:14I've ever seen he had shorts on Remember and he has so much energy man I remember why I pretty sure I was in New York at the time when I watched it I was like god damn this fucking dude is talented. Yeah, I'm not questioning a skill set It's the culture thing. This is what I was gonna say. Yeah, there was a thing at the store when you reach a certain level of prominence You were allowed to just do whatever the fuck you wanted and people would show up and apparently can't us and used to do that And a lot of guys used to do that who's scoring big in the NBA this season You are playing daily fantasy at draft kings an official partner of the NBA playing daily fantasy is easy Draft a lineup stay under the salary cap and watch your team rack up the points for baskets rebounds assist and more Take it to the rack with draft king sports book new customers download the draft king zapp and use code rogan for a free shot at a share of millions and prizes with your first five dollar deposit That's code rogan only on draft kings the crown is yours Gambling problem call 1 800 gambler in New York called 877 8 hope in y or text hope in y at 467 369 in Connecticut Help is available for problem gambling called 888 888 977 777 7 or visit ccpg .org 18 and over in most eligible states but age varies by jurisdiction eligibility restrictions apply new customers only minimum five dollar deposit required one single use three dollar ticket rewarded that expires in 14 days and February 28 See terms at draft kings dot com slash promotions this episode is brought to you by visible is your wireless full of stuff you didn't sign up for Don't need or don't understand visible gives you everything you want from wireless and nothing you don't No confusing plans no hidden fees no nonsense with visible you just get unlimited everything unlimited data talk text and hotspot All powered by Verizon's 5G network plus they're an all digital wireless service So you can easily switch within a matter of minutes from your phone either in their app or online ready to switch Visible has an offer for you the Joe Rogan experience listeners joined by March 24th and new members can get the visible plus plan for just $30 per month for 25 months That's visible's best plan with premium data for $15 off each month for 25 months get visible's fastest network now with even more savings Switch at visible dot com slash Rogan with the promo code Rogan for this offer from visible Didn't think wireless could be so transparent so visible well now you know switch today at visible dot com slash Rogan terms apply see visible dot com for network management details But do hours I get it man.

33:06I don't I don't agree with it you wouldn't do it. No, but there's certain guys did He's certain guys that are really good did Chappelle did it. There's a bunch of guys who did it It was a thing that you allowed to do there You know what I'm saying and it was like I don't I think we probably all should have talked about it Yeah, and said it is kind of crazy. Yeah, but I Still to this day went to Emily and I go give me a list right now of who the people that are allowed to bump me right Right, right because I'll get back to you right nobody should be allowed to bump you if someone wants to do a set If a like a famous person is in town they should ask you if it's okay.

33:42Yeah, that's that what I feel I never bump anybody But it still happens. No, I know, but it's I don't I don't I don't it's a also It's a thing that was the comedy stores like mark that you had made it to a certain level if you could show up And some guys would try to get it they would try to bump people and like you're nobody Some people are crazy crazy crazy Delusional. Yeah, they're like a YouTube person or someone who's on some show literally. Yeah, someone who's on that some show that you've never heard of That was on like the WB Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, what are you talking about? Yeah, there's a few guys that like wanted to try that juice before because it was that thing Like when someone would show up whoever it was some Chris Rock would show up he would just go on stage That's it Chris Rock goes on the list.

34:27I have a list People that are like yeah, you're on the list. Okay, you wouldn't do it, but you're on it. Yeah, I don't do it Yeah, Chris rocks on the list. She'll pause on the list. They'll burst on the list makes sense Right, but then there are people you're I mean that aren't and they do it and it drives me fucking crazy Well, it's a weird thing. It's like you're trying to appease the talent You don't you never know who's really gonna make it big and you don't want to piss them off now Oh I'm so glad I don't deal with that. I know I was told people be nice to comedy club owners because you don't want to be one That was my advice always to comics because they always get mad at comedy club owners I go listen man you do not want to be one of these people and we fucking need them This is a crazy job.

35:07You're dealing with maniacs that may or may not take their flight might show up drunk Yeah, might might get arrested Friday night after the first show. Yeah, like you don't like imagine you're you're feeding your family Based on these fucking maniacs Regular people I would go to comedy clubs and I would look at the go to the office the calendar And it would always say it would always say Pablo Francisco with a question mark. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's like I get it Yeah, like Pablo's fucking insanely town. He's so town. Oh my god Pablo goes to the basement He goes and looks around those dark corners, son You know, I he goes out there.

35:44He goes into the tunnel and I've you know I just feel so sad about it, but he could have been the biggest thing He should have been yeah, he should have been that's how tell should have been huge in the 90s. Oh my god Crusher destroyer and so fun to be around. Yeah, sweetheart of a guy like a just nobody hated Pablo Sweetheart of a sweetheart every time people around you want to hug him. Yeah, but he had that skill set on stage That was like a combination between impressions and act out and he had everything and funny jokes Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all of it all of it together and just so likable.

36:18So great. That's a nice guy. Yeah, yeah But yeah, I see that still to the same Yeah, I was really lucky that the thing that I was into is weed and that the thing I was into made me terrified and gave me it made me paranoid It was the opposite of making giving me courage. It gave me no courage I Wanda was a courage killer. Yeah, yeah, you made me feel encouraged just foolish. You're so vulnerable Yeah, it's vulnerable you just and you made me appreciate people more like legitimately when you when you're Do you perform when you're high sometimes all the time right do you ever lose your place or no?

36:58No, that's what I find I take a lot of neutropics. That's one of the keys. Can I have one? Yeah, you take take four of those That's alpha brain black label that stuff is this shit I've always got whenever I say a show on on your online. I always want to try your little things That's a good one to try and this is you know, I'm affiliated with this company obviously, but it's this is not the only one that I try I'll tell people about some stuff that I have no affiliation with neuro gum is one of them We have we always keep neuro gum in the studio. Can I have a packet of neuro gum? We can get one right now.

37:28Yeah, yeah, you get back at least one the mic. It's I'm not gonna do it I'll do it plenty. We should get some more. We're probably running dry We we go through four or five Fucking boxes of that stuff and you really neuro gum really works. Oh, yeah, 100 % oh wow It's got theoning in it and caffeine and a couple other things and what it does is it enhances your memory It enhances your your brain's ability to form sentences and wall yeah Well without a brain we did two double blind placebo controlled studies at the Boston Center for Memory memory and it showed Increasing alpha flow state it showed Increasing verbal memory increase in I think it was a reaction time But it does something and it and we did it out of dose that's half of what I take I take for it Sometimes I think six from feel I'm talking to a side right away or no no, okay, okay If I'm talking to a scientist I'll take a share load of them.

38:21I'll take six like Lex Lex mm -hmm. Yeah, yeah. I love that guy He's awesome. He's awesome, but I mean any scientist like any any time I'm talking to someone who's like explaining to me some very complicated things about the universe. Yeah, I don't want any foggy this. I want to be like locked in See that was one of my fears Of junior show Is science and the things that you guys talk about? I know I'm just saying. Yeah, I got was like I don't know nothing about anything You don't have to okay. No, no, no, no, no, no, this is I know film. I know film you You're my friend and we have had conversations Thousands of times.

38:57Yeah, yeah, yeah, you and I having a conversation. Yeah, do you remember when we first met? I remember when we first met the strip You can I say can I say say something? But can I just see something about it? Yeah, yeah, I think I might be wrong the way you're saying it maybe how so Well, I don't let's go by so okay, I meant you were headlining low boy. Yes. I was a door man. Yes, right and I think Diaz was Diaz was there I believe so yeah, I think it was there right. Yeah, I knew Diaz right so he goes a let's go to the strip club with Joe And I was like I was trying to be a host was this 95 yeah 95 96 okay, right?

39:35Wow, and I was a kid right I was enamored by you. You know, I mean not enamored but I was like I wasn't even famous back then No, but still you were a headliner. I was at MC right right right right so then we go to the strip club Okay, right and it's deja vu Okay, okay, okay, and I wanted to go like I'm from San Diego. I know the ropes. I know the people I didn't okay, of course I didn't that's not really what happened No, but we sat there okay, and then there were gang members there right And then we I don't know what the problem was with those a problem between I'll tell you the problem Okay, there's one of the gang members was dating one of the strippers Okay, and when he was over there talking to the stripper you went over and tried to get the stripper to give you a lap dance And when you did that I saw the look in his eyes and he had long I'll never forget he had long straight black hair Yes, Mexican dude with tattoos on his face in 95 two cheer drops.

40:30That's fine. Okay. That's only two people Okay, and this is 95 okay, and You went over and I said Bobby what the fuck are you doing with the fuck you doing? Did you take a look at that guy's eyes? Yeah, I go Bobby these are like dangerous real people and you're like oh shut the fuck off This nothing's gonna happen. They're gonna do shit if I'm okay. I'm out of here So I said I'm leaving you get either come with me or not and I got up and left I saw where this is going. They were getting up Bobby. They were moving around They're thinking about coming over to you and I got us right out the door and you barely got in my car You barely got in my car in time you were dilly dally in and someone had a yell at you And then we got you in the car we took off Hey, Bobby you were gonna get a shot like for you say my life I don't know if I saved your life, but I definitely save you an ask it but but also If she's working there.

41:19She's on the clock No, just hear me out. No, you're if I'm at McDonald's right and some womanically correct. I'm technically correct Technically you're correct, but she was over there talking to her gang member boyfriend and you and over asking for a lap dance and you You just like Stormed your way into their conversation and you were gonna die. Can I say something? Yes, please may I want to say something Okay, at the time I found this out later. I thought the tear drops meant that he was emotional or something I didn't know about death. Okay If I saw you even if he didn't have tear drops on his face.

41:51Yeah, the look in that guy's eyes Like the whole group of them. They were serious people. I don't want to make assumptions about people. Okay Do you have any self -preservation instincts? Whatever what do you mean? Did you have any self -preservation instincts? We don't know we don't know they danger that way We had no homeless with surfers. You should be just inherently like a child sees a dog's teeth and scared of them You can see that guy. Yeah, yeah Growling and go okay. This is real Joe. I'm 52 now. I've never had anything happen to me So I feel like my instincts right are on the point. You're also very likable I'm like I'm all decided not to kill you smile.

42:28Yeah, so what the fuck dog? I go yeah, yeah That's a good move. That's a good move. Yeah, yeah, but that that was our introduction. That's how we became friends. Okay It didn't right right fuck up our relations. You know, I came to LA And then I think that would grow a grew what year did you come to LA 97 or 98 like in that time period? I was at a weird time at the store that was huh the dark ages It was but it was really good for us Yes, you would go on stage in the OR and it'd be half full and it was it was like a real good place to fuck around and practice Oh, so the people that Did it really did it because there was no like light at the end of the tunnel not anymore I think this store goes through eras and it had gone through the kines in era and when kines and died I think there was a big drop off.

43:18It was terrible times dude dude at a saturday night in the OR They couldn't start the show without four people living in the audience and there would be sometimes no shout Yeah on a Saturday fucking night. Yeah, it was crazy to but then it came back It came back when the internet came around came back and like in the early 2000s. Yeah Yeah, yeah, and then back and we I reaped the reward. I'm so glad it didn't quit Yeah, I'm so glad you didn't quit too. Yeah, I saw dude. I saw some great I saw one time at two in the morning. I was working the door there. Yeah, and I saw people in purple robes Oh go up into the belly room.

43:52Uh -oh with candles. Oh Jesus, right? So now you know you can sneak up to the belly room through the green room Those offices and stuff right where they supposed to be up there. Yeah. Oh I'm not lying. This is the 90s. Yeah, okay, right. I peek through They formed a circle and it candles up. What? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, baby eating Yeah, I got to report that okay, and they were doing say ounces The comedy store if any places haunted. Yeah, comedy stores haunted They were trying to say ounce Andy Kaufman's Ghost oh and when I went back downstairs The people that went with the robes they came back down and they were in the regular clothes Lily Tomlin Bob Samuda.

44:38Whoa I saw it with my own eyes. Whoa, it was fucking crazy. Whoa. Yeah. Well, why not? You know, yeah, you get a little high Yeah, yeah, why do we have to wear the robes because it'd be fun And then you get Yeah, nice robes probably too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, really Tom. Yeah, he's stuck in a more some bullshit robe Yeah, yeah, but have some respect. So if you get a dunk in When I got sober when I had that 17 years chunk and anyone out there listening, right I needed to get all my drugs out of my house So he was the only one I wanted. I think he's the only one that could do it So when I called him he came under my house in five minutes He cleaned out my apartment in like 20 minutes and then he made me a fish dinner Oh And then he took all my drugs and went away, but I want it's dunking if you're listening.

45:28Thank you for that. He's the best Yeah, we lived together once for a while Where in my house here six months, you know, I'll say for you. Oh really? Yeah, wow he got kicked out of his apartment He was or the house he was dating this lady and she got tired of him playing video games all day Really he calls me and he goes dude, I don't know what to do. I'm in a hotel. She kicked me out. I go come live with me Yeah, I got this big ass house. Yeah, so dunking live with me for like six months and that was I had a sensory deprivation tank in the basement I I saw that yeah, I could get dunking would go down the basement Trip balls and all sorts of life out.

46:07Was he messy? No, no dunking was a great roommate really he was awesome Yeah, did you have to kick him out or no? No, no, no, he eventually got back on his feet again And you know, we had a great time like he had his stayed there for years. We had a wonderful time Wow, it's like dunk is one of my best friends So like having one of my best friends in my house and the house is big So it's not like we're on top of each other I could be way the fuck the phone didn't even work in the whole house I have to transfer phones to go to other parts of the house. Wow. It's a big ass house. Yeah So if Duncan's over in that side amount of on over in this side like we're not even in each other's hair Yeah, didn't even bother each other So it was really cool man.

46:46It was cool like having meals with them hanging out with them So for like six months we were roommates and to think that he was not even a stand -up at mobile. He was a the talent coordinator Well, he was a stand -up. He was trying to do stand -up when he was the talent coordinator We became friends because I would call up and give my veils and then we would have crazy conversations Yeah, he's like did you see this thing with Ram Das newly And we would talk to while like you have phones. Yeah big foot. Yeah That's why when that Joe Rogan questions everything show that's why I did it with him Oh, that's the perfect guy.

47:18Yeah, and Ari too. Ari did some of the episodes. Wow But like you know Duncan was always trying to do stand -up. He was just you know, you're just unorthodox You know, yeah, but then he got good like that the fucking doll. Oh my god. Oh my little hobo is one of the best sets One of the best bits of ever seen it was so good. It's so good. Yeah You get it the other night at the mother's ship. Oh, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's incredible Yeah, he's got a new little hobo too somebody stole little hobo. No, yeah some piece of shit Because a little hobo was like an antique doll dude, right? Yeah, so how do you fuck?

47:53I don't know I don't remember how someone stole it. Yeah, but where do you get another little hobo? Oh, you go on eBay? Oh, you can get little hobos on the yeah The new one. He's got it's creepy. It's fuck oh really. I want to get a little hobo Yeah, you can go online and get antique puppets Oh really yeah, yeah, thousands of dollars probably I don't know yeah, like there's there is Is that the new little hobo? Oh my god. He's cute He's fucking creepy he lives here now, right? Yeah, Duncan lives here. Everyone's asking me to come You should come. I know you were talking shit about moving to Austin, but listen no, no, yeah, you did I watched the video No, I didn't don't lie You did you did what I said fucking move to Austin.

48:34I don't leave my neighborhood. I don't go to Compton. I stay right here Could I say something what? You know what man? No, you know You know what man what Listen, you have to understand what you guys did what did we do You guys took half of the talent out yeah, so I was just but hurt. We brought another bunch in too Like Shane Gillis lives here. I know I know we don't do great. I know you guys are killing it The club last night come move here. I know, but you're more than Paul's thinking about it Paul's here a lot I know Yeah, they're all just worried that like people that really move their suck on Rogan's nuts.

49:18I would never suck your nuts I don't ask I wouldn't do it if you did it with your problem. Yeah, I'd be like why are you doing this? I'd have to be asleep me Oh, okay, we were camping if I woke up and you were sucking You what I would yell at you like you yeah, I'd be like what's still fucked dude? I was in the middle of a dream. We're fuzz in the middle of a second. Yeah, yeah Be so mindful to that would be a real problem for the rest of my life right the hardest I ever came I would do it. I was sleeping. Yeah, I was on the next dream. Yeah, I believe it's sucking my nuts I don't know why he's doing it was just for fun.

49:55He didn't know I've said nuts before but like you know I get yeah But um, yeah, I'm going to be in Santino. Well, maybe think talk about it Listen man. It's a great place to live. It's a great place tax wise great place traffic wise It's a great place the most important thing is people wise the people here are so friendly Austin people are great people. They're really nice. They're nice. They're not shitheads They're not Hollywood people. They're not lost in this fake world of leftist ideology that everybody's trapped in They're just people just regular people man and those people exist outside of these These blue bubbles where everyone's gone insane.

50:33Why used to be a part of the blue bubble? I was 100 % a left -leaning person who lived in Los Angeles. I was 100 % I never voted Republican my whole life. I was very left -leaning Especially with like any social issues when it comes to financial things. I'm a little bit more conservative, but at the end of the day Way more left than I am right, but California went nuts man It's gone like full communist. It's out of its fucking mind and their approach to law enforcement is so insane It's so insane the no cash bail the letting people out for committing violent crimes the fucking Not stopping people for stealing up to whatever money it is was at $900 now.

51:18I think they raised it I think they made it a little higher San Francisco is non -existent San Francisco most of San Francisco is emptied out of like big chain stores and big department stores I wonder what you stand up there anymore It's crazy. They ruined it. They ruined the city Yeah, you can bring it back the structure still there Yeah, you have to have some hardcore Rudy Giuliani type mother fucker to come in there and knock heads Wow, and nobody wants that nobody wants that their peace love and granola and fucking wear a mask I'm in the middle now. I'm in the middle I'm never I never thought I would ever never never never never it only happened to last year right exactly I just went I can't do it anymore You know it people that you thought were aligned with you are like now now like mad at you about Shed their in a cult.

52:04They're in a cult. It's it's got all I mean Mark Andreessen who's a brilliant venture capitalist guy explained it to me in in in very clear terms Like what the definition of a cult is how you can get excommunicated how you get shamed for having differing opinions The group thing the whole he's like it's a cult and he's right. Yeah, 100 % right. Yeah. Yeah It's just hard to say because then people in the cult will attack you But they're not attacking you for a reasonable It's not logical yeah the way they're attacking you they're attacking like some of the tax religious beliefs Yeah, and some of these religious police so to get it gets into these weird gray areas like like trans people in women's bathrooms like Says who you guys who how do you know that's a real trans person?

52:52How do you not know that's a fucking creep They don't want to pull his dick out in front of kids. Yes, those are real we spot Yeah, and if all you that guy was a convicted sex offent. Yeah, yeah, and he was doing that Look those guys are real. It doesn't mean trans people aren't real also But those guys are fucking real yeah, and to even say that those guys are real you get excommunicated You get treated like your a Nazi I never even cared about it didn't care at all. Yeah, I mean I would ever you are I'll give a shit You're a man, but it's like I can't do it anymore. I think it's engineered a really By who by China and by Russia.

53:29Oh, no Chinese. Yeah, I think what they're doing By manipulating social media manipulating algorithms I think some of it is natural don't don't get me wrong I think some of it would have happened either way it happened during the 70s with the hippie movement There's always like there's always these people that are they want to live completely outside of the norm of conformity of society And there's always people like that But what's going on now is very different and it's accentuated by social media And I think it's accentuated by algorithms naturally because people are inclined to go towards things that upset them But also it's it's done purposely and I think it's done if you have enough stuff About like whatever the thing is whether it's black lives matter or whether it's Ukraine or whether it's pala free Palestine from the river to the sea If you have enough of that online it moves the needle and the way I describe it the other day is like if two ships I go in a certain direction This is a ship where people logically work through things and this is a ship that's adjusted by the algorithm affected by the algorithm Just moves that much over time This is what we're seeing so over time you and I who used to be on the left are now like where's the left?

54:45Where are you guys? You guys are so far right I can't even see you yeah you're out of your mind you're you're fucking chopping dicks off and Give it a little kids yeah warm -on blockers. You have no idea what the long -term consequences are you ignoring the health risks You won't even talk about the health risks. Yeah, you use things like Gender affirming care. What are you saying? Yeah, what are you saying when you're talking about children? Yeah, why you just accepting this? It's a it's a noble thing to blur it out so everybody goes you're on the right team That's what it is. It's not like oh my god.

55:19What are we doing the kids? It's not like oh my god What are we doing to San Francisco? It's not like oh my god? Why are we letting these violent criminals out of jail? Yeah, why are we defunding the fucking police? Yeah, what are you doing? Yeah, you can't say any of those things Is he standing those things you're not yeah, are you getting nervous? No, okay? I live here Right is this Texas Texas 99 % of the people agree with me even the left -leaning people here are way more reasonable Even less lying there's a joke that I tell that if I say it in a liberal city it dies You know and it's a joke about you know, I mean Down syndrome people making love and they make up their own moves Right and they have to they know traditional moves and I did it last night it crushed my shows and I felt like Oh, this is you know, I mean what I've been I think maybe looking for well that club is Specifically designed and nurtured just for what's funny?

56:14That's it. Yeah, there is no Message here unless you have a message and it's funny and it's in there. Yeah, you want to do it? That's fine But what's valued is comedy just like if you go to a music show you don't want those in between the music speeches about climate change Shut the fuck up shut the fuck up and play the song entertain me we Want to develop stand -up comedy like real stand -up comedy because I think it's a worthy art form I think it's very valuable to people in terms of enjoyment and in terms of mental health and in terms of society It's it's it's an important part of society like the Lakota had a person in their tribe that was called the Hayoka And Hayoka was the sacred clown and that this was the person that made fun of everything because if you couldn't make fun of something It was bullshit like if this is one guy.

57:06Oh, you can't make fun of him. Well, that's probably bullshit He probably has a and a disappropriate amount or an inappropriate amount of power. Yeah a disproportionate amount of influence It's like probably some ego going on here too if you can't make fun of something Yeah, because if you can make fun of something and it's not funny then you're not funny But if you can make fun of something and it's funny and people laugh and someone gets mad they're the problem Yeah, they're the problem and I want to say something I never said this before. I would have said no Right is I just for my personal life Some of the bullying that I received was necessary for me to get to where I am now Well, you don't want it.

57:42I don't want it. No, I didn't ever want it But I wouldn't like go back in my past and change anything right? I wouldn't either yeah, yeah, because I feel like everything like my dad was Fucking violent as fucked in like he would knock my mom's tooth out. She has a missing tooth right here You're mean and we witnessed all this trauma. Yeah, right and he was like dude. It was like He was fucking terrible. I had done EMDR on just him Trauma therapy, right and it's like and then you know I was a little guy in in an American high school and people would bully me I lived in Minnesota. He was I thought I was an Eskimo.

58:18They threw ice chunks at my head Croz would tell anyway my point is is that all those little things and even in comedy It was hard being me this little guy, you know me doing it people your comics with black comics would sometimes come back to me Asians are funny You're mean Well, there was always that knock on Asians. Yeah, let's be honest like Henry Cho was like the first guy that went mainstream I love him. He was the first guy that went mainstream. I love him wasn't he? Yes, Ronnie Chang's fucking hilarious I love Ronnie that dude is so funny. He's so funny. He's got so much attitude on stage.

58:52John you knew and was before him That's right Johnny you. He's funny too. Yeah, he's very funny There's there but there was a knock You know, but dude nobody thought that when you saw you on stage like you're you're a really funny guy You're very good. Thank you. Very good. Thank you. Thank you. You're very good comic Yeah, and I also want to tell you the reason why I didn't want to do this now It because I'm doing a special and I want to promote it. Okay And I thought maybe I could only do it once every five years But then your people said that I could do it when I you could do this and tell me one I feel that now you have my number.

59:27I'm gonna call you. I'm gonna text you. I'm gonna do it I'm gonna tell you what it's gonna be it's gonna be great listen. Yeah, I love you too Yeah, I get it all right. Yeah, I get it now. I know now how it works. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, I was like um I have to do one I have to do a special and the reason it also forced you to write more and fuck around more And but you need a place to do that and that's why you should move here Well, that's why I'm gonna show so much stage time here dude That's why in March I talked to Adam. I'll go. I'm gonna do shows here in the little room to do a poppy lead new joke night Let's go, bubbly.

1:00:02Yeah, let's go and then me and Adam are gonna do a um star truck podcast. Oh boy Yeah, and at that point you're gonna watch the interlite That's a big ask you gotta ask 40 minutes You really think that's the best science fiction ever better than alien the first alien movie. It's a Gorni Weaver But you have to think though that it's the you know because obviously the budget isn't an alien budget, right? So it's cheesy television, right? But it the concept, you know, I mean was mind blowing at the time when I saw that in my early 20s it blew my fucking mind Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's like I don't want to give it away now, you know, I mean maybe I could kind of try to sell it to you real quick or no Why not I'm sure it's okay.

1:00:44Yeah All right, I wasn't bet you're gonna watch it. I'll watch that one episode that you told me thank you Thank you, and then make fun of me about it. I will yeah most certainly, but you also that's not the best science fiction That's crazy if you google if you google the best television sci -fi episode It's the interlite is in the top three. You know, it's a super underrated television sci -fi show what Battlestar galactica the new version so good so good I've seen it twice already all the incredible. It's incredible. It's a really good show. Yeah, yeah Like you think of it as a science fiction show, but it's a really good like psychology show It's like the way they had it set up.

1:01:23It's fucking terrifying. I just got goosebumps when you said it. It's so good And it's so appropriate to watch today And because jumping every hour and they're so scared. Oh my god. It was so good And also the combination of artificial people and real people. Oh my god. It's really dude because that's something that we're gonna have to navigate They didn't have AI then they didn't have that aspect of it worked out You know, there wasn't like a terrifying force that they were dealing with as well But the sirens were awesome. The robot murderers. Yeah. Oh my god And they also kept some of the old school sirens or two, but they got the new schools were like you couldn't tell Yeah, yeah, yeah, there was new school sirens.

1:02:02Yeah, old school sirens. That's a great fucking show. I can't believe I'll grind it and you know I love it What's it the pop pop face guy with what does it? Oh, this guy. Yeah, that was shit almost And we're James almost. Yeah, yeah, so good and that's amazing. Yeah, it's a great fucking show like great acting great stories great special effects. They really flew under the radar. I think it was on like FX or something like that sci -fi channel sci -fi Sci -fi channel was so people like not enough people were on that channel But now you know that I saw it right. I'm telling you the inner light rivals it This episode is brought to you by zippercruder the hiring process is stressful There are so many different things to consider and on top of it all you need to get it done quickly It's like when you're trying to find a decent contractor for a home renovation project or even a new primary care doctor You don't want just anyone you probably want a person who knows their shit and will take your concerns seriously but also Need to find them like yesterday If you're an employer struggling to find that perfect fit I've got one word for you zippercruder They work fast to find you great talent tried for free at zippercruder .com slash rogue and they're so fast Four out of five employers who post on zippercruder find a quality candidate within the first day That might be why hiring site employers prefer zippercruder the most based on G2 ratings They get the work done without wasting your time or money So relax and let zippercruder speed up your hiring see for yourself Just go to zip recruder .com slash rogan to try it right now for free That's the same price as a genuine smile from a stranger a picture perfect sunset or a cute dog running up to you and looking your hand Again, that's zip recruder .com slash rogan zip recruder the smartest way to hire This episode is brought to you by robinhood gold with robinhood gold You can now enjoy the VIP treatment receiving 3 % IRA match on retirement contributions The privileges of the very privilege are no longer exclusive with robinhood gold your annual IRA contributions are boosted by 3 % plus you also get 4 % APY on your cash in non -retirement accounts That's over 8x the national savings average The perks of the high net worth are now available for any net worth the new gold standard is here with robinhood gold To receive your 3 % boost on annual IRA contributions sign up at robinhood .com slash gold Investing involves risk rate subject to change 3 % match requires robinhood gold at $5 a month for one year from first match Must keep funds in IRA for five years go to robinhood .com slash boost over 8x the national average saving account interest rate claim Is based on data from the FDIC as of November 18th 2024 robinhood financial LLC member sIPC gold membership is offered by robinhood gold LLC rivals okay, that's why you'll watch and go okay, that's like the same kind of feel rise rivals is reasonable Yeah, what's your favorite sci -fi movie?

1:05:27Oh, shit in terms of like entertainment Yeah, what's something like all that's loved my favorite sci -fi aliens is one of the original alien was good Yeah, because you know a heredine statin who was granted on my the cat Here's what I loved about it the cast was so believable. Oh, yeah Yeah, and that was also the first time there was like a female action star That you didn't feel like they were shoe -horning it in your face. They did she's female. She was stuck in that role That's not the role she wanted. Yeah, she wasn't some like badass. Yeah, she was someone rising to the occasion becoming a badass in the face of this horrific thing.

1:06:05Yeah, it killed everybody else on her spaceship spoiler It's like yeah, yeah, they also felt like real truckers almost like yeah You know that the ship lived lived in right right orily almost yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was a fucking amazing It's a great movie, but aliens to not as good but still entertaining different kind of movie that was like the aliens were easy to kill all the sudden And there was like a lot of them all right. Yeah, well, they're Marines. Oh, yeah, but it doesn't matter though the aliens were so the alien the first one was so clever and so fast and so sneaky Yeah, yeah, and then also they're not all sudden they're just fucking idiots Just running at you like like the the British with the fucking white Ross on their chest target.

1:06:46Yeah, yeah, yeah, did make any sense Their characteristics were completely different. They were the dumb aliens. Yeah And then the big one the big female the mama the the queen. That was fun She should have fucks. Agority weaver up like that. It didn't make any sense. Okay, well that's to you bitch With the robot thing. Yeah, your whole body's exposed Now you're dead. Yeah, you're talking about okay, okay, and why is it moving so slow all the all the above it should be Babies that are belly over. You ever see a praying mantis Kill a hummingbird and watch stuff like that. Yeah, you should watch that because the praying mantis is like the A human or the earth like equivalent of what one of those alien things are and maybe the alien things an enormous praying mantis probably even more violent and more deadly and And I just don't buy Sigornie weaver the stupid fucking robot crane suit on kick him to ask Does it make me a pussy when I watch planet earth and I see a lion chase like gazelle or whatever and I fast forward No, you just don't want to see this suffering.

1:07:48I don't want to see it. But does that make me weak though? No No, it's not weak. You just don't want experience it. Yeah, I don't want to experience that you know what it is You've seen it before. Yeah, I've seen it happen. You don't have to see a lion eating a fucking gazelle guts first Over and over and over again. Yeah or hyenas though the hyenas ones are the wild dog ones those are the ruthless ones Yeah, they're pulling the guts out while things trying to stand up good. It's good Yeah, man Yeah, at least the lions kill you first lion the cats always kill you. They don't just eat you Cats grab you by the neck and they fucking kill you wow, but dogs wild dogs and hyenas and bears.

1:08:25They just start eating you And then the alligator you have to do twirl with them. Yeah, you might not you might not die for an hour With an alligator with a lot of different creatures. Well, all really depends on what well Algate is will take you underwater. They'll drown you because they want to they want to stuff you under a log so you can rot Yeah, easier to consume What animal could I think I could survive you think a mouse maybe Maybe no a really angry mouse you'd probably you'd probably run into a wall Well, with a bear maybe Hmm, you know, thanks a bear. Yeah, but I was just not freeze.

1:09:01I don't think that works. freezing doesn't work Depends on why they're there. All right. They're there to eat you. No, that's not gonna work right if they're there to scare you away from their children Yeah, maybe maybe do you know what to do? No, there's no one what to do there's not a lot to do Because when you go to Hawaii, you swim with the shark to give you rules You don't don't splash here by that kid that was just in the shark tank was in the Bahamas. Yeah, a bit They they they had some shark tank experience and some kid got bit by shark Some kid I think from Maryland really yeah, don't fuck around man They don't know that it's a shark tank.

1:09:35They just they're sharks. They're sharks Yeah, and a bear is like to think you know what to do maybe Maybe if you spray it with pepper spray to run away, maybe maybe it won't Maybe if you shoot it you'll stop it in tracks or maybe you only have like a nine millimeter and you could pump it 4456 holes and it still tears you apart Wow, yeah, you if you're gonna shoot it with a gun you want a large caliber rifle You want like a 300 main mag. Yeah, you want something big something boom boom Yeah, put large holes in that gigantic monster predator. What about so hard no, no, you're fuck fuck's gonna That one you know, okay, you want to be you'll fucking bounce it off its nose and Yeah, you'll miss you panic.

1:10:25It's just hard. The speed that it moves that will astound all your senses You'll you'll panic because you'll realize you don't have the reaction time You don't have the physical movement time capable of dealing with how fast it's coming at you Yeah, your your body doesn't work good enough to do that. You know, I would go I would run toward it and just get it over with That might work. I'll just run and I'll just jump right into the head maybe it depends on where bites you the thing about those things is They don't necessarily kill they just hold down and eat They just hold you down okay, you know grizzly man that document.

1:10:58I saw yeah, yeah, wow that that video with the lens cap was on But they have an audio of him dying. It's like it's so horrifying. I know. It's like five minutes long Yeah, five minutes of that thing eating him alive Five minutes is so long before you're dead. Yeah, you gotta think of how long it is something just weighs a thousand pounds putting its paw on your chest and just pulling your guts out Screaming For five minutes and that seems like 20 minutes. Imagine getting eating. Oh my god forever. Yeah. Oh my god. Do you bomb anymore? I'll bomb a joker bomb. Yeah, yeah, we also do bottom of the barrel You know bottom of the barrel is like one of those shows where the audience has suggestions and you're reaching the barrel and pull out the suggestions And then you just riff Why bomb the no -shows oh really?

1:11:48Sometimes the there's no suggestion Sometimes it's like green sneakers Oh my god, the fuck am I gonna do with this? Yeah, because sometimes people are trying to trip you up Sometimes people have good suggestions. Yeah, some of them are actually like almost in the form of jokes like someone really funny Wow, yeah, so they eat you just randomly pull out of randomly and the audience fills it out exactly Wow, and it's like sometimes it's an amazing premise factory because sometimes because you're on the spot like that Every now and then and I deal with popping your head you're like, oh shit. That's a bit.

1:12:18Yeah, and then that bit You get home and you listen to it and you write it down like there's three or four bits that I've gotten that are actual bits now because of that show I want to admit to something to you right now if I may I Do I want to admit to something to you right now if I may okay the reason why I haven't done a special Is because of the fear of doing new shit? Yeah Of course Of course, but it's shameful. I get yeah, but this idea that you have of a Bobby Lee new joke night. I'm forcing myself to do it. Perfect. Yeah, perfect. Perfect Because you know when you guys left the store And I don't want to make fun of I love all the comics dude, but it's like You know sometimes when the headline is like the guys with names leave town for the weekends You look some of the lineups there, you know what I mean?

1:13:08And so when I'm they're not as strong So when I'm in town. I'm in the main room. I have the private spot. It's packed. I have this fucking pressure to crush Of course You know because I just know that they're there to see me and I want to give them a good show Well, you could do sets other places too, you know do sets other places go to the ha ha Fuck around with their ice house go to Flappers don't fuck around another spots flappers. Yeah, I know you're saying that, but it's like you know go up there It's a it's a crowd. Yeah, you know, yeah, you know, yeah, her fucks around there. Oh well. Yeah, Burlux do that He looks to go to the ice house.

1:13:47He'll fuck around there. Yeah, you got to kind of fuck around You got to you got to like come up with ideas and sit down like like last night I was I told myself I'm gonna go to bed early I was in front of the computer at 10 o 'clock and I was like I'll stop at 12 and all go to bed But I caught an idea I caught an idea and I wrote it out till like 3 30 in the morning. I was just writing And when I do that, I'm like, okay, that was productive even though I'm tired and I woke up late today Even though I'm tired. I'm like, but that was productive Wow, and if I can force myself to do that three four times a week And sometimes dude, I'll just sit in front of that fucking computer and it's just nonsense It's just nonsense.

1:14:26It's nothing. It's embarrassing. It's terrible. So yeah, nothing to this. I'm trying to work it out You know, I'll fucking take a little of that go over it again But when you sometimes nothing sometimes I got nothing but when you write something though and you look at it right Do you go? Okay, this is like a 60 % Like you do that totally depends it depends sometimes. It's like a hundred percent some some bits like as I write them That's exactly how I perform them. It's not normal not normal, but it happens. Yeah, and then some bits are just seeds It's just a seed and I gotta throw that bitch on stage and see where it goes Yeah, and sometimes it doesn't go anywhere Right, I think it's for like Ron white was telling the story the other day about this joke that he had that he thought was really funny Yeah, and he had planned I had it planned in my mind when it was gonna be a plausible He goes he got fucking nothing.

1:15:14Yeah, yeah, it happens. Yeah, yeah, but that's the beauty of creation because Every now and then I have this new bit that's killing and it's so exciting to get to it because it's like this is like this Bit is alive. It's like it just it was just born. Yeah, it's just flexing You know, it's fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's fine, but it's it's also it's hard But you gotta you know you gotta Pay devotion to the muse to sit down and try to like let the ideas come to you If you don't have a moment where you're just sitting down and just letting the ideas come to you You're gonna miss those ideas and some people say oh I only write on stage.

1:15:52I only write with my friends That's great. You should do that too But there's nothing wrong with like sitting it's not gonna hurt you to sit in front of a computer and go over your ideas and every now and then Maybe every two times or five times every ten times you sit in front of that computer or that notebook Something pops up that wouldn't have popped up without it Yeah, and you gotta like suffer through the ones that suck that drudge of Not being able to come up with anything My problem is I do I have these second addictions I have Like video games right in your front of the computer. You start playing video games Yeah, and I'll just start playing starfield or something 16 hours later I'm on a planet and I'm making an outpost right yeah, and I feel guilt right?

1:16:38Well, I'll play stardew valley up create a farm. Yeah, right? And it's but it's a haunting thing like what the fuck are you doing? What the fuck are you doing? What the fuck are you doing? Right? You're wasting your time. I'm wasting my time I know this yeah, but for simbriza I can convince myself Well, here's the thing yeah, if you do the work first like say if you sit down you say I can only play computer games if I write a thousand words So when you get to a thousand on a word document you look at the bottom. It'll tell you how many words you've written And then you can stop That's what I wouldn't do yeah just earn it earn it that way you'll actually enjoy it That way when you're playing the games that won't be in your head.

1:17:15Oh my god. I should be writing That's what I should be doing something else and by the way, it doesn't have to be you write something funny You could just write something about something and then try to extract funny things out of it Like you could just write a story about like how violent your dad was like that Well, you just told me which is horrific right yeah, you if you wrote that out The I guarantee you there's gonna be a seed of something in there something It might even not even be about your dad being violent it'd be maybe be about how you react to violence or maybe how you react to You know angry people.

1:17:51I just want everybody to be nice. You could find like a premise in there So just write an essay just write an essay and write an essay with no expectation of whether or not it's gonna be funny Yeah, I used to do morning pages Never do that. No, just get up in the morning right right when you wake up apparently when you just it just start writing that's supposed to be the best time to write Yeah, well, you don't have those like filters and stuff like the sucks Just freely write it and then just pages of it completely be a couple you know And then later you look at it, you know, I mean maybe I'll start doing that again.

1:18:23I don't fucking know that That's how most writers do when they write they write in the morning and then they go for a walk a lot of them do and they listen To some of their notes and they'll they'll go over the idea that they wrote down and they'll take voice notes while they're walking There's some about walking they say because it's like a very mild erode exercise So it stimulates your circulation and gets everything flowing and you actually think a little bit better when you're walking Okay, it's real it's um, it's you're not tired. It's a mild thing So you just out there walking and your heart is pumping and you're not sitting there sedentary just trying to think you're actually walking around Okay, I'll try hiking done.

1:18:59Yeah, hiking is good. Yeah, yeah hike after you Then you're really have earned your video games right right? Yeah, I'm hike and think think about what you write and then you when you play you'll be playing for fun. You'll be enjoying it this day fourth From this day fourth. I'm gonna wake up. I'm making an announcement. I'm gonna wake up. I'm gonna write for an hour Okay, right hike and then I'm gonna play video games. I'm gonna see you four months from now. You're gonna be cracked out with a cling on knife Yeah You went off the rails it was too much pressure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was getting up.

1:19:34If the morning I was riding it I was hiking and it was just too much. Yeah, no, I my fish died I have to do it because now it's it's incredible like you know when I do shows with cigar or me and Andrew You know because I'm on a podcast called bad friends. It's funny podcast. Thank you. You guys are good together I want to talk to you about an episode that I saw But you you haven't even Israel was that on that or was that somewhere else? It was that What was that like Tell me what happened You not want to talk about it. I can do it because I'm not saying anything that's like wrong It's just something that happened.

1:20:08I get a call from Steve burn. Okay, and Steve goes you want to go to Israel. How long does this?

1:20:1714 years ago, maybe oh, oh, okay. Yeah, okay 12 14 I don't know and I go why I don't want to do a show there and he goes no You know, I got a call and he they're flying out a bunch of comedians and actors and it's a free trip And I go why I don't like just want to show us the country and their culture And you get nice hotels Freemials and you get a tour of like he's not performing nothing. Okay, so I went there with Jamie Chung Brian Greenberg their actors and Steve low -pads went out George Lopez And we went out there and then when we got there. They were like Welcome we're like thanks and they're like but every day you have to tweet how great Israel is Every day.

1:21:05Yeah, like put out a tweet. They told you you have to and they didn't say anything about that before you left I don't remember them saying it before But they might have they could have Maybe they said Steve and Steve conveniently left it out. I don't know But I just I do know that I fit yeah, I feel like if they did say it that I would have questioned it Right, you know, man. Yeah, I don't know where So this is the early days of Twitter right yeah when was Twitter's only like 12 years old They was 10 years ago that I don't know how old Twitter Oh, there it is Israel unfiltered Yeah, yeah, look at that so 2006 what was that look at your face?

1:21:45Yeah I like I like I have to tweet Yeah, yeah, but here's what happened As soon as I tweeted the first thing I already knew like oh my god. I think I'm in trouble. Why would you say I just said Israel's great There were beautiful people you know, I mean Okay, and then like it would just like and they flew us out here for free And then you would just get a thousand like you're a man That we that were like, you know Palestinian you know And go you mother, you know, and just it was a negative negative negative And there was these gigantic wars that would go on on the comment section. Oh boy It's got really uncomfortable and then I just remember you know, yeah, there I get you Nice hat Yeah, she wear that all the time.

1:22:30I look cute with it. Is that the famous wall? That's the wall. Yeah Would it feel like to be around that wall the walls all this fuck right? Yeah, I put a note in it Wow, you could write little letter of You know, man, I'm not interested Jesus. Yeah, yeah, and I just you put it in there I think I was like let me get more pussy or whatever but yeah, yeah, yeah, but like that wall how old is that wall 19 BC yeah, but then toward the end. I was just like I got to get the fuck out of here I think I was like how many tweets did you make and Did you keep going after they were attacking you? Yeah, I think so yeah, you have to Yeah, why don't you get your hotel?

1:23:07Yeah, it was like a free tale And I didn't know this significance of it until later almost like you know, I mean or the significance But like what the impact of it, you know, right? Because I you know, obviously, you know I mean, obviously I have my opinions about it. You know, I mean that I I'm keeping it to myself, but it's like You know, it's not I'll fully aligned you know, me with what people think that I should be you know You have to be careful because I live in LA and you know, oh, I hear you look. It's a complicated issue It's so complicated and it's terrifying. Yeah, it's terrible you look at the video of when they do an overhead of what Gaza You still look like and what it looks like now.

1:23:45I just I mean, it's insane It's fucking insane It's gonna take over a year to clean up just the rubble. Oh my god, but it's like 25 ,000 now at least at least They don't know how many people are dead. They have no idea and just the half of the population is women and children And the trauma and the fucking you know famine It's just it's just I just can't even comprehend it really Yeah, and these railies tell you that it's necessary And then they they have to get rid of Hamas and this is the way to do it But just I mean, I believe that I believe I believe that I believe that maybe that that should be but I think the approach could be different Yeah, right.

1:24:31I don't have any expertise in war neither So they're just so terrified That they can just shoot missiles into buildings and they tell people to get out but then they bomb the areas where they're going to I mean the whole thing's nuts man. It's nuts and it's so dangerous. It's so dangerous These free Palestine marches that are happening all over the world those are all organized too by the way When you get on social media and you see the free Palestine people and the pro -Israel people What percentage of those people are bots? Right, it's not zero. It's not zero There's a lot of what's getting stirred up a lot of the hateful things that are being said a lot of the crazy things that are being said I guarantee you a lot of that's being instigated by foreign countries and that's what's scary about social media And the influence it has on people and the way they feel about a particular issue And that's on top of the horrific nature of the issue itself Bolta of October 7th, which is undeniably horrific perfect and then this and then on top of that You have this open anti -semitism that we never saw before where it's just open everywhere It's wild It's fucking terrible.

1:25:42It's so scary man, but it's also an issue that will never be resolved But it's not just that it'll never be resolved like I never thought it was going to be an issue where the presidents of like major universities We're standing in front of Congress and they were justifying people saying death to the Jews that it wasn't harassment unless it was actionable that's insane. Yeah, like what Like what and then when the congresswoman was trying to get them to expand on that do you mean Actual genocide then it's harassment when they can't actually just yeah, what the fuck are you saying? Yeah, but it's the same thing We were talking about it's the cult.

1:26:17They're in that leftist cult and it's not reasonable. It doesn't make any sense It's all crazy. Oh, and when they were like Osama bin Lon and could have been Ryan or whatever that do you remember that fucking trend? Oh, yeah fucking insane What are you talking about and these are people right that weren't that I was there. That's a TikTok thing too, but yeah Osama bin Lon in 2000 right or two when 2001 I was on mad tv 9 -11 happened I went to work the next day Andrew daily one of the actors his cousin was on one of the flights. Oh jeez right and I could feel the pain Right and you know we were inundated with the the fucking footage yeah, and just in the moment it was fucking horrifying Yeah, it changed America 100 % and now people that weren't even around then Kids which is fine, but now they have these grand ideas about It's insane.

1:27:14Well, it's also what where did Osama bin Laden come from? Well, he came from the CIA funding them the Mujahadin to fight against the Soviet Union They're trained they're trained by America. Yeah, yeah look There's a certain reality to American imperialism that doesn't do anybody any good to deny it. Yeah, you have military bases You're right everywhere right now if you were a foreign country in a nationalistic foreign country Of course you'd hate America. Of course you'd hate what we do. I mean look at what's going on right now with this Ukraine Russia thing Look at how much money is being funneled through that How much insane amounts of money yeah, and most of it's like in bezels right who fucking knows But again, it's not zero.

1:27:57It's not zero percent. It's getting in bezel And the fact that all of a sudden no one wanted to admit that Ukraine had always been a very corrupt country There's a crazy Twitter exchange between Candace Owens and the New York Times where Candace Owens was Talking about how corrupt Ukraine is and then the New York Times says to her Like what evidence do you have that Ukraine is corrupt? She goes oh you mean their links from your fucking newspaper And just from like 2016 and before that there's all these fucking stories about how corrupt Ukraine is in the New York Times They didn't even bother looking it up because when you're in the cult the cult says you support Ukraine Do you want Ukraine to win or do you want Russia to win like what the fuck are you even saying yeah?

1:28:40How much do you know about why this thing was instigated in the first place? How much do you know about NATO about how much they're moving arms closer to the Soviet Union about how Ukraine joining NATO was always a red flag Do you do know I don't know nothing most people that are talking about it don't know either That was the red line that you could not cross you Ukraine joining Russia or joining NATO rather The whole thing is fucking terrifying because we're dealing with nuclear superpowers When Xi Jinping tells Biden that Taiwan will join China again Like that means they're gonna take Taiwan.

1:29:15What are we gonna do if they take Taiwan? Are we gonna and then Biden says we're not gonna do anything Like okay first he said we're gonna stop them now he says we're not gonna do anything like oh my god And he's only saying whatever the fuck they write down for him The whole thing's nuts. It's like who's deciding what happens and doesn't happen. It's not that guy Right, so if it's not him who the fuck is it is it the secretary state? Is it is it the press secretary who's who's is it the military industrial complex? Are they completely at the helm? Will they ever let control of that wheel to anybody else now if they have it?

1:29:49Is it the shit you think about where you lay in bed at night? Mm -hmm Yeah, how the fuck do you sleep sometimes I don't yeah, that's a real problem at night Yeah, at night I have my most anxiety filled moments about this stuff I've talked about it openly. Wow, but I'll really freak out at night because I I legitimately think We are one or two events away from living in the Stone Age again And I think it could happen in our lifetime and it could happen to you and I like I'm I'm really convinced that the fabric of society Is way more fragile than anyone appreciates. Yeah, that most people appreciate rather I mean, I feel it in the air.

1:30:28Yeah, well you saw during the George Floyd times in LA. Oh, yeah, I felt that Yeah, it was mad max times right when they were burning those cop cars on the highway And I remember seeing that going I got to get the fuck out of here. Yeah, this ain't gonna get better Was it that or covert that maybe we both those and the money probably like taxes? No, that was not even a consideration It was nice, but it was the freedom. It was these fucking dipshits like the mayor of Los Angeles Telling everybody what businesses they can and can't have open what's essential and non -essential like says who yeah And after a while when a bunch of people had had COVID and then gotten over it and they were fine I was like, well, wait a minute like how how scary is this and why are we closing everything down?

1:31:09Why aren't we giving people choice? I never I bought into it. Of course. You leave the house for two fucking years. Mm -hmm I didn't even go to the grocery store and I had to spray I had to spray everything down Doritos spraying it with it was insane. Well my whole family got it early on yeah, or there was anything for there was a vaccine for Anything and I didn't get it and I didn't do anything different. I hugged my kids. I fucked my wife. I hung out with them I just could took care of myself. Yeah, you've had a COVID though, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I got it when the Delta variant was around I got it when I was doing arenas in Florida And I was gone got it because I was hanging out with my friend John showman my friend John showman is a buddy of mine makes pool cues and he lives right there And I got to see him after the show and we played pool till like 3 30 in the morning and I was exhausted I had like fucking five margaritas and then I got sick But yeah, then it wasn't that bad But my point is like my whole family got it and I didn't get it.

1:32:07They they they weren't vaccinated No, no, there was no vaccine back okay, so yeah, and I didn't do anything different Yeah, I remember I worked out two days where I was tired and I realized I was fighting something off Like there's two days where I was in the gym I was like, you know what? I'm just gonna go through the motions here I'm just gonna lift light weights and just like let my body like break a little bit of a sweat But no exertion just get some circulation going so I did like some some kettlebell exercises like 35 pounds Nothing's strenuous like yeah, just nice and light and just get the body moving and then the next day I went back in the gym.

1:32:41I feel the same same thing today same thing. Did some pushups did some chinups Nothing crazy like five reps reps of five chinups. Not just a little bit of exercise Nothing extraneous and then the next day I felt great the next day had a full regular workout So whatever it was I fought it off and so then I was like well what what is that play here? How much of it how much of can your immune system stop this or is it something that you 100 % get? No, it seems very infectious, but also things seems like if you have a healthy immune system This isn't a death sentence. This isn't a bowl. This isn't So what the fuck is going on and then the vaccine came out and I signed up to get vaccinated The UFC had this whole allotment of vaccines But I was there on a Friday for the UFC and they said you have to go to the clinic and I said I can't on the time They say can you come back Monday?

1:33:31I said no, but I'll be back in two weeks So I was gonna get vaccinated in two weeks and in the two weeks they pulled it They pulled the Johnson and Johnson for blood clots and two people I knew got strokes two people. Oh my god two people Within the 10 days of taking that vaccine two people I knew had strokes. Yeah, a healthy people Like weird blood clots people were getting blood clots. I mean it is true that if you were older though Like it's 70 and you had some sort of like you know, I mean core morbidity. What's the word co -morbidity? Cormorbidity right that they could die right? I mean that's a true thing right?

1:34:06Like a hermit can he died Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, look they die the flu too. I mean, it's a bad cold Yeah, yeah, not dismissing what it is But it's dismissing this control that all of a sudden the mel - the medical industrial complex and the government has over you And your job and your choices in your life for something that now they admit they could have never contained That it was never gonna stop transmission that it was never gonna stop infection. It was all just lies They lied about the efficacy they lied about the protection in parts they put they put it out on MSNBC Rachel Maddo the virus stops with you you can't get it I mean, it's not true.

1:34:42It was not true. There was no evidence that it did that. Yeah, not only was there no evidence They never even tested it for transmission. Wow They just tested it tried to see if it makes anybody but what scared me was when Michael yo where you know Michael yo? Oh, yeah when he was in the ICU Because of COVID in my mind I don't know why because I know that Michael yo is athletic. Yeah, yeah, I thought to myself Oh, if if he's in the ICU, I would have died, you know, I mean like I fucking my his mom got it. She was fine It's Michael yo. He's weak. I don't know what it is, man He could have caught him absolutely exhausted.

1:35:16Yeah, that's what I've heard of people getting it really bad It catches them when they go on a bender and that's what happened with me. I was I was drinking till 3 30 in the morning I think when drinking first of all is absolutely terrible for your body and terrible for your immune system And if you're drinking like I was drinking these five super sweet super potent margaritas. We were hammered You know, and then I was actually I came from a show too, so I did a show that not I probably had a couple of drinks at the show So it's like you're not in a good place to fight off anything like that You're exhausted and drunk and then I've been sick that way many times times in my past when I've caught a cold or caught the flu Almost always when I'm run down.

1:35:59Um almost always so I don't know Maybe Michael yo was really run down when he got it I know the guy who got COVID really bad because him and his buddies were drinking They were drinking and they're partying and they he was really fucked up And then the next day COVID hit him bad, but he was weak Yeah, his his body was weakened by a bender Like they were drunk all night and then in the morning started feeling like shit and then it caught him bad Yeah, but when I got I was really bad, but I lived through it and it was fine Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of different things that were a play there First of all, there was just general metabolic health that was completely ignored people told you all you have to do is get vaccinated That's horse shit Your your immune system is complex and it relies on a bunch of different things to keep it effective relies on good nutrition and relies on sleep it relies on low stress It relies on vitamins and nutrients healthy diet Exercise all those things were huge factors and they ignored every single one of them When you look at the number of people that died of COVID something like 90 plus percent had four plus comorbidities four plus Cancer diabetes heart attack risk filling the blank four Comorbidities 90 plus percent of them.

1:37:15Yeah, it's not that it's not bad Of course, it's bad, but it's you know, it's worse you mother fuckers telling everybody what they have to do and not have to do You you mother fuckers telling people they could shut their businesses down and they have to take this experimental medication Regardless of why they're not they have natural immunity Dude he was Gestapo. I'm with you, but I with you. It was yeah, it was fucking mind control It was totalitarian authoritarian tactics They were limiting people's livelihood limiting people's ability to travel Shaming people the fucking government released during Omicron, which is nothing but a cold They released this thing for the people who have been vaccinated You did your job for those unvaccinated you experience a winter What is the severe illness and death?

1:38:03Oh, you're looking towards a winter of severe illness and death When I'll when Biden's on TV our patients is wearing thin We've been patient, but our patients is where hey mother fucker our patients is wearing thin with you You can't even form a goddamn sense. Yeah, you fucking zombie. Yeah, what are you talking about your patients is wearing thin You're not even looking at data. You're not talking about reality. You're talking to the cult Can I ask you? Why are they so reluctant to not give us a different option there because it's control Because the whenever there's anything that happens in the world Yeah, whether it's 9 -11 and through 9 -11 they pass the Patriot Act And there was a devastating blow to free speech and control and just your ability to have privacy Yeah government had full rain to listen to all your phone calls Listen to read all your emails and they're doing it right now and the the NSA is doing it right now They can listen to any any time you make a phone call to someone.

1:38:58It's all really recorded Yeah, but when we can play like I buy this a little too old maybe can we find a different option? There's just not even they're not even open to the idea of it It's just like no he's the guy he's not in control right now, right? So if the people who are in control are in control right now, why would they want to swap out a new person Deep state. Oh, for real. Is it deep state? Listen? Yeah, you could put whatever words you want But if you don't think that these corporations that donate Insane amounts of money to political campaigns have an influence on what happens in the world You're naive.

1:39:29That's a silly way to think of things now if you've got a guy who basically has no mind And he is your figure head if you can keep him alive for four years You just run it the way you're running it right now. Wow all you have to do is get that other guy arrested a ton of times Just keep keep arresting them keep trumping up new trumping up new charges. Yeah Put him out there in the fucking news every day terrible things he's done. He's an authoritarian. He's gonna lock all the gaze up If you just say that enough the the people that are uninformed and aren't paying attention They're going to listen and then if you have mail -in ballots and if you have a voter machine shenanigans if you can fucking Swathings one way or another then you stay in power Do you you stay in power?

1:40:13So you believe same person stays as the figurehead and the same people run it now Do you believe the election was stolen then no, okay? I believe that there are without a doubt in every election There's election fraud sure. It's like what's the number. Yeah, so that's what I say. I don't know what the number is I know trump apparently released a whole bunch of documents showing irregularities showing that the mail -in ballots were in Great. There's a mail -in ballots is something Putin talked about recently said the 2020 electors are stolen They use mail -in ballots, but who knows why he said but these things happen every cycle right every election these things happen Regularities Hillary claimed that she won right?

1:40:51Yeah, I mean John Kerry claimed that he won. Yeah, Gore claimed that he won Remember the dangling If lord I'm sure yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the idea That the Al though went okay. I'm gonna concede and sort of took a long time Okay, you know the the Al Gore George Bush won how long did that go on before he conceded? I want to say it was a few months I don't think it was as simple as just conceding okay. I think the Al Gore George Bush won went on for quite a while if I remember correctly because I remember being confused like wow Let's never have him a month or so a month. I'm on that's okay So so think of that think of like a whole month where they're trying to decide if it's true right It's fucking weird and there was a documentary that HBO did back when Bush was president during these times Well, this was when it was okay to deny the election because it was Republican.

1:41:44It was an office And there was a documentary called hacking democracy in in that documentary They were using I think they were using die -bold machines and die -bold They also make a lot of ATM machines they make various machines But what they had found in this documentary was that there was the ability to have a third party input So first party input is you you're the voter second party is me. I collect the vote third party input was also there And so they use that on the documentary to change the vote So they use it to change the numbers Wow, they show that they can do it wow. I'll send you something Jamie.

1:42:22I don't know if this is true, but someone said That someone had just done this Recently Here I'll send you this because this is just something that someone tweeted Um, I don't I don't know if it's true, but I wanted to send it to Jamie so Jamie could research it um But what this says is that in federal court in lana, Georgia computer scientist an engineering professor j Alex alderman was able to hack a dominion voting tabulator in front of us district judge Amy Tottenberg using only a pen to change the vote totals That happened this time supposedly wow now. This is a this is a tweet from just a couple of days ago Wow, I was a tweet from actually a tweet from When was it?

1:43:12Anyway, I don't know if that's true Uh, but that's crazy if it is Yeah, this is this is actually from two days ago. Wow. This person tweeted this now We'll we'll look see if that's worship and see what but here's the thing when you have computers If you have a phone like with Pegasus Pegasus was the first one that by the way the Israelis created Pegasus And Pegasus was a software that that's what they used to get Jeff Bezos when they got his dick pics and all that shit Oh, yeah, good ones good ones good ones good ones. Yeah, you got to solve it When they did that with him what they did was someone sent him a link in WhatsApp I think it was uh the head of Saudi Arabia Send him allegedly send him a link in WhatsApp He clicked the link and then Pegasus was downloaded on his phone Now you don't even have to click a link anymore Now they can get Pegasus on your phone all they need is your phone number I could have Pegasus now they probably do you probably do you love it?

1:44:10I'm sure oh no If we detect it is there an app? I don't believe so okay. I don't I think According to Gavin DeBecker who's a securities expert These things are constantly evolving and they get better all the time They don't tell you when they're better. Yeah, they just they just have better technology Yeah, and but but he's aware of Pegasus too and he said with Pegasus too all they need is your phone number Yeah, but hey, but Joe but Joe Can I ask you something? What Can't you just shut it off and not I mean there's so many people in this country just walk around And they just don't all these things that we're talking about right now they don't think about it They just live their lives.

1:44:50Don't you think that that's a happier life or no? Um Depends on whether or not Your voice actually matters So if you can change the way people think and you can change the way people look at things and then those people vote In such mass numbers that you can't make stealing the vote possible Because enough people realize it's horseshit to the point where the overwhelming which you you would have to like Have fraud that's so apparent that no one would buy into it to be a national scandal We need whistleblowers that we have them we play a jail Yeah, you'll get Edward Snowden. Oh, yes, I live in Russia now.

1:45:31Look at Julie and Assange. She's fucked Yeah, they've been prosecuting that guy forever and if you ask what the crime is it's Nothing. Yeah, he's a journalist. I just feel so stressed out right now. I should You're stressing me out. That's the reality. Yeah, that we live in we live in a very dangerous complicated world Yeah, how there been a university in Michigan computer scientist change results of a hypothetical referendum on Sunday alcohol sales He flipped the winner in a theoretical election between president George Washington and Benedict Arnold the revolutionary war general who defected to the British He rigged the machine to print out as many ballots as he wanted wow As he needed all he needed excuse me was a pen to reach a button inside the touchscreen a fake ten dollar voter card that he had programmed or a $100 USB device that he plugged into a cord connected to a printer rewriting rewriting the touchscreen's code Halderman delivered his presentation during an election security trial evaluating whether Georgia's voting system is vulnerable to manipulation or programming errors All in person voters in Georgia make their choices on touch screens that print out paper ballots I believe Georgia was supposed to update their Machines and then there was a talk of when they were going to do it and that I think it's a it's it's also you've taken the consideration other than just corruption It might also be a budget issue Oh, but the headlines says election officials say these vulnerabilities are merely speculative.

1:47:00Oh merely speculative It's safe and effective our election is safe and effective. Yeah, these people dropping dead. Yeah, 40 % increase in all cause mortalities. Yeah, ages 18 to 34 It's nothing to concern yourself with. Yeah, that's normal. Yeah But it's merely speculated. Yeah, these people all have your best interest in mind. Is that a cigar? These are little babies. Could I have one? Yeah, sure Okay, you're okay with make nicotine Yeah, I don't like it in hell. You want a real cigar big one? No, I know little ones. You want to like a real cigar Cuban yeah, no, these are they're from Nicaragua.

1:47:35These are JRE cigars. Oh, fuck they're actually really good. Yeah, yeah, I'll open it for you This is what I think man. Okay, I think evil's real and I think evil exists in many forms and it exists in callus disregard for loss of life for profit That's evil right and that's a real thing like you could say evil is the devil here's a little lighter here buddy You could say evil is Satan and evil is demons and evil is you know Exorcisms and shit. Oh, look at that baby But also evil is profit over human life which is real evil is cobalt minds and in the Congo when you watch pregnant women Mining for cobalt getting toxic fumes in the lungs whether some of them have babies on their back.

1:48:21That's evil That's evil. They're living in dirt floors with no sanitation It's horrific conditions and that is in everybody's cell phone and everyone's cell phone is the labor of essentially people so poor They don't get to choose whether slaves are not they just had there's no other option for them to work But there's a power powerlessness that one feels like what is little Bobby Lee gonna do about any of this So it's like a lot of time. I'm just like you know everything that you said I'm with you But I'm just saying that like it stresses me out it should yeah And I walk and I want to walk around a little bit more free and you know And you deserve that yeah your comedian man.

1:49:02You do you provide Hat laughter and you help people and if if it's fucking you up Knowing about all this shit that's happening in the world that can get in the way of your job. Yeah Yeah, look you it's it's not an obligation to pay attention everything Okay, but it is something that I think would help people break out of the cult Because that call it's like you think you're a good person if you go buy hook line and sinker everything that the left says That's crazy These are the same people that want war these are the same people that are encouraging censorship These are the same people that are trying to silence descent That's that's all totalitarian shit and just because it's done for trans kids or for black lives matter or for any social Cause that you think is like Undeniably worthy.

1:49:53It's still the same thing at the end of the day the Patriot Act still controlled People in a way that was never allowed before and it did it under the guys. We have to stop a terrorist attack So even if they don't do evil shit to make these things happen once these things happen They take advantage by doing evil shit and they and act control over the people that they never had before That's what they did during covid And the redistribution of wealth was insane. Yeah, that we did redistribution of wealth a big corporations like companies Profited that. Oh my god. So many people the billions of dollars was moved.

1:50:28Yeah Well, it just stresses me out. You want to talk about the movie? Can we talk can we talk about the movie of promoting? Yeah. Yeah. What's your movie Bobby? Oh I'm barely in it And they're making me you know me but it's like but they're making you do promo and you're barely in it Why are four scenes what's it called? It's called drugstore June What's it about? It's about um a girl Esther Right and she was she works at a pharmacy I play a farm the main pharmacist and it's basically she plays sort of like a gen Z You know, I mean girl that's kind of out of touch. It's kind of like a Juno You know, I mean puts more modern and it's what I like about a show is this okay is is that you know I um Okay, let me kind of talk about Hollywood real quick sure There's still gay keepers right and for me it's like I think I'm perceived as dangerous.

1:51:27I don't know why because I'm on a podcast. I say shit. Yeah, right And it's like I'm always the fourth option It goes Ronnie Jimmy Kenjong right and I like acting right so it's like I think this is cool because it's like Everyone that's involved in it are dear friends of mine You know, I mean pretty much everyone in the movie are people like miss Pat and people like now. Oh cool And it's cool to like yeah, it's cool. Let's watch the trailer. Okay We're gonna give you a Consultation for plastic surgery. It's not what I do here, but just if you were What do you think you would do to my face? I probably start with your mouth Big lip filler.

1:52:06No, I would so that sucker shut I'm a loser your Facebook group is right. I have no life. Did you ever see in the psycho?

1:52:28I messed up. I need a coffee break. You don't even clocked in yet. I haven't been getting paid for any of this. Oh I brought you some chocolate Thank you You Miss pot June Oh Oh, I got a poor man that ends up with her I think I'm gonna start doing some investigatory work I don't watch the news. Oh, I'm doing slow. Where do you feel safe here? I'm looking for information. Hey, baby boo. June squad has a lot of time on their hands. Take it easy I'll tell you what you want What are you doing here? I'm collecting evidence. You watch too many movies You are not a police officer. Help us out here God muck shots are so sexy.

1:53:52Can I take this home? No, not Did you watch it? No, so that's the first time you've seen the clip. Yeah, what happy? You know, Abby Levitton my manager She saw it. She was like, it's pretty good and when she said that I was like, I don't want to watch it. Yeah, yeah But you know, no, I got to promote it. I got to show you great I'm sure you didn't yeah, hilarious, but I want to say though that it's like, you know, it's all our friends So it's like, you know, you and your friends got together and we made a movie and I heard it's great And it's gonna go into theaters. Yeah, there's all these things.

1:54:32You're I'm gonna see it. I'm gonna eventually see it Yeah, I can't watch myself. I mean, I'm just something. I've been in movies. I can invited premieres. I leave Yeah, I don't want to watch me. Yeah, this was pretty good. Oh, that's me and uh Death and Roman. Yeah, I'm pretty good in this. In the short that just came out on YouTube. It's like 15 minutes long. Oh, yeah But I'm okay in that. Yeah, you want to get in acting you're enjoying it Can I ask you you don't like it? No, I don't like the process. I love movies. You're a great news radio. Thank you very much Huge laughs. It's fun. Yeah, stand up some more fun It is, but why can't you do all of it because I don't want to deal with all those people Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's why I did fear factor.

1:55:09I don't want to deal with actors anymore When fear factor came along. I was like, oh, this is perfect Not there's anything wrong with that and the cast on news radio are amazing Incredible. It's just you you deal with a certain kind of person that is 60 % insane 60 % of them are insane. Yeah, 40 % of them are cool as fuck. Yeah, yeah, but it's just like that. I don't They can't they're not fun to joke around with the shitty they backstab they fucking they undermine you They go to producers and you know try to rewrite your words and say it conflicts with my line Yeah, it's like weird ego shit goes on with them.

1:55:44They're weird man. They're weird people They are weird, but what the jobs I have now like I did at reservation dogs. I did um I'm on sex in the city the new one. Oh, how's that? It's I said no to it for the first couple of times They were like you want to do it because I just didn't think that it was on the right fit I had never seen it. I know it's a big cultural thing Yeah, but I just basically says all I want to do is feel comfortable dude I said that to MPK that showrunner because I don't want to go in there and feel like Like people are mean and I'm stressed out and I don't need it. Yeah, and he he was he was comforted me It's like no, we want you on the show and I you know, I would go to New York and everyone was super sweet like I'm I put myself in situations that Aren't that I've had fucking Directors call me a pan -faced gook What yeah, I had a director call me that was he also no use of white what yeah, how long ago in the 90s Wow, I don't want to call the director.

1:56:42I use a big director holy shit, and he called the other actress a whore Oh my god, he's a kid on your mark. You pan -faced gook. Yeah, yeah, this is back. You know when it was on well Is he alive? Yeah, he's doing movies still. I want to so badly tell you what is what's his name rhyme with I'm not playing this game We tell me later. Oh, yeah, okay. Oh, yeah, he was gonna go through your IMDB and they're gonna find some likely candidates Maybe we should do that. Yeah, let the internet do it. Maybe we could play warmer. Yeah, yeah One time this director Sandra I worked for the C Italian. No, I'm not playing this game.

1:57:18Fuck deal. Okay One time I fucked up on a line and he he made the whole uh Everyone like the cameraman everyone in the wardrobe former circle They put me in the middle of the circle and he goes point your finger and they all pointed their finger at me And he goes repeat after me. You're the worst actor on planet earth Oh my god, and they all did that and tears rolled up in my eyes And I remember a wardrobe lady looked at me she goes. I'm so sorry. Oh my god. Yeah, I mean I had I've had I had Michael bass do something to me I don't know why I don't find it. He grabbed my face aggressively. Whoa Why would you do to him to grab his balls?

1:57:58Can you wake up and do the game sucking out of the balls? I don't do that. I do that for comics. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I don't do it when I'm like on a No, I did this so I booked this commercial with Eric Stone Street Right, you know Eric's Eric. He's a modern family. Okay. You know, he plays the fat gay guy. Sure. Sure So we played tower boys with um Kim Ketrell So it was a I forgot it was a Pepsi commercial I think and she was in this bathtub And I had never acted before you know Joe like I'm a stand. I come from the same place you come Which is open mics and I yeah, I didn't learn How to add I don't know the fuck that right.

1:58:34I don't know what a jib cameras were mark or any of that shit right So I had the scene where I had to bring these oh fuck I had to bring these towels into a fuck you know, you're like stacked. It's that was a joke And he would go your face needs to be in the light And I go oh, I don't know so I try to tilt He every take the light The light right and then like by the eighth one he came from behind the thing and he grabbed my face like this He goes here here and like tears Well, no don't feel bad for me. I'm a survivor You know, that's your holocaust That was your Movie Michael Bay tells you to put your face towards the light but in the 90s I experience that shit right Well, that seems like you really weren't putting your face towards the light and he was freaking out Because they could only do that take so many times.

1:59:27I'm kind of on team Bay You're really yeah, he just turned your face. Oh, you're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right Beat your ass. You're absolutely but also when you When you come when you come from a background like me. Yes With your dad fucking acting crazy. Yeah, when people scream right it fuck triggers if you feel it you got triggered Yeah, like term what's a robot cop? What's his name the original robot cop Peter Peter we're we're yeah, he's a screamer Screams. Yeah, yeah, so I was on mad at you. Yeah, I was on Magnum. He does it to everyone Right. Oh, yeah back in the day.

2:00:06We wouldn't have sides You can't remember one line. He would like y 'all start like that right And every time he would do it, I would like tense up I'm not pussy dude. I get it. I'm a warrior. Okay. Wow. Yeah, and then right I just went to the show and I go I just next time I'm on the side of maybe not him So they just did it, you know, but anyway now I do shit. That's like what where I feel like I'm wanted Right, and I'll do it right so it's not like that crazy bullshit where I need back then I needed it right What someone would say something horrible to you just have absorb it But there's also no recourse back then.

2:00:43I mean, that's how you get to like a Harvey Weinstein Guy who has just ultimate control Can do whatever the fuck he wants. Yeah, and does ruins people's lives and careers if they don't accept his advances That's where I mean that whole business has always been about powerful people Abusing the people that they that had to listen to them from casting directors all the way up to producers. Yeah Look Tarantino was in here and he's talking about this old school director who had his office had a bedroom Where he take the starlets all the starlets had to fuck them Oh my god, a bedroom in his fucking office So everyone just assumed of a casting You know, thing was going on and a girl came into his office.

2:01:31He fucked her and 20 years ago I would have done it. I think you think so I think that if I know I think that it was a huge director Right, you know, I wouldn't fuck you. No, I would suck his dick maybe really I think I wouldn't say I wouldn't tell you Well, there's definitely I would just cry you could have felt like some offers if that was out there What you could have gotten some offers if that was out there Yeah, yeah, weren't like Yeah, you're a desire to make it. Yeah, I just think that back then. I was like so like No money right and then in my mind I'll be like oh, this is the way it's supposed to happen right?

2:02:07Yeah, yeah So I mean if imagine if you're an actress right and you you come out the Hollywood from fucking Kansas You're 20 years old and you are all of a sudden in this producer's office and he's 50 and he's been banging stars for 20 fucking years and you don't know how it all works and he explains to you listen honey This is how it works in this business. You're like well, I mean, okay Do you want to be an actress and you're kind of mentally ill anyway? All right, and you're like yeah, I do Yeah, yeah, no one has to know about this. Oh, okay, you won't tell anybody terrible old fucking terrible Yeah, and yeah, that's probably what they did forever It's so fucking terrible.

2:02:45Yeah, and I mean, I mean, I know you know, we have problems with the word woke, but you know, I think in many ways All Hollywood wokeness is also good Yeah, that way I think now in a stopping the abuse way, but the problem is there's like in Hollywood particular There was an over correction and crazy people like Amber herd got involved right manipulating the truth to sort of gain sympathy You're you've got a lot of those cases too the Chris Hardwood case There's there's a lot of those where the the reality is so different than the truth right and everybody just Assumes that the woman's not insane and that she's she's telling the truth See but you're gonna have to have a few of those if you're gonna have to have real change like a real correction of actual abuse You're going to it's just like if you're gonna like accept trans people You're going to have a bunch of instances of perverse pretending to be trans If you're going to say hey, we have to stop abuse you're gonna get fake abuse You're gonna get people to come out I know man, and that's the way Hollywood is like Bad it's the way humans are yeah, but in the sense of like a show like beef getting green lit Which are mostly all Korean or Asian cast I think in that way it's good right But there is an over correction in terms of like it's good because that shows good right?

2:04:02That's why it's good yeah, you're right. It's good when the shows good Even if the show was good back then 20 years ago, they would never be true. Yeah, they would have eroded better about acceptance Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's still I think art has to be in Particularly stand up is the best example I can speak about that has to be a meritocracy It has to be what is actually funny? At the mothership we have a fucking very clear mandate no one gives a fuck if you're gay if you're straight If you're trans if you're black of your Asian if you're white. They don't give a fuck Are you funny? That's all it is.

2:04:35Are you funny? And that's our goal The goal is and that's what comedy used to be I had this conversation with Ali Wong once and she was like do you think comedy's meritocracy? I was like ultimately has to be Because at the end of the day What's funny is what people gonna come see again? You know, and you could pander and you can get away You can kind of like be half -assed and be treated like you're better than you are You see that all the time when they make those lists of the best stand -up specials of the year and some of them like what the fuck Yeah, are you You're so crazy. I know this is good and they're only saying it because it's the right demographic Yeah, and you can say that if it's they're talking about the right points even if the stand -up is clunky and awful and Unoriginal and just garbage.

2:05:20They still they'll tell you it's amazing And I don't want to kiss your ass, man. I for a second though Just accept it. Okay. All right. I feel like Here we go I love it. I love it. I love just he just hear me out. Okay. I just feel like you know in a way You carved the way for me specifically Because before I did Tiger Ballet and bad friends. I mean Joe I'll be honest with you. I mean I would do half rooms You know, I mean even though the eight years of mad TV and all the things I had done right and I couldn't get an audience Right and now I mean it's just like it's night and day. I mean it's you you I mean the path that you laid down And even back then when you used to do when we used to do at the ice house It used to pop in back in the day, right?

2:06:16Yeah, it's sort of like I think it just kind of like subconsciously absorbed it and it became a path for me and it changed my life Because now what's beautiful here and when I go on the road now It's like I get people that are like really They know me. Yeah, they're they love me and I love them as well You know, and it's it's a different fucking deal. You are a creature of the internet I am yeah, and you should be and the internet changed the game the internet also made it instead of a famine thing people had an abundance mentality Because when we first started in the 90s there was only a few shows you could get on you got on mad TV I got a news radio.

2:06:54There's only a few shows and you were really lucky if you were on a show I remember we were talking about it all the time. Oh my god. It's so lucky miracle crazy. We're on TV. Oh my god We're so lucky But there was other people that didn't get your spot and they hated it and they were mad at you Like they like if you cast from mad tv and other comics at the club You know, I know you experienced that. Oh, yeah, and they were fucking jealous and bitter and they would talk shit about you He fucking sucks on the show. He just knew anything and they just angry that it didn't happen to them because it could have happened to them Yeah Now instead of that now we're valuable to each other because now we're a community of podcasts And comedians and instead of us being like in competition with each other We all feed off of each other and we all support each other It's a much better environment for stand -up.

2:07:43It's a much better environment for comedy clubs It's like everything's better now. It's also the connection with East Coast too. It's like before I felt that there was like a rival real mouse right and now it's like when I go to New York and like as soon as I land I don't even call the The the seller will call me and go what spots do you want? Yeah, and then like all the comics will come by that's pot You know, it's like a family. It's fucking amazing. Yeah, that happened during the podcast revolution. That's what changed everything. It's going down now Going down the podcast revolution. Yeah, we still happening.

2:08:18I know we're in downswing or upswing No, it's not a downswing at all If you pay attention to the numbers more people are listening now than ever. Yeah, all the podcasts. Yeah, it's awesome And it's it's awesome because you get to see people for who they really are no bullshit no filter no nonsense You can't nonsense people for three hours You know at a certain point in time your fucking demons will show their It's really who you are Yeah, it also shapes who you are because you get to kind of like experience feedback and examine How you think about things and why you say the things you say And how much of the in the early days like how much of what we used to say was just for shock value Like you were you would go on a morning radio show.

2:08:59Yeah, I know We would try to say shocking things as we could because that was the way to get attention Especially like opian Anthony. I know I know I know we don't have to talk about it I know it's no I could vaguely go around it. I'm just like at the time. We all did it Yeah, I was a survivor. Yeah, and I'm like oh, this is the culture. Yeah, this is the culture I'm like a LA comic. I'm in open -air with beasts Paturies, you know, all the guys were fucking beasts. Yeah, and it's like You know, and then you know at the time, you know, and then later and then now, you know It's but it's like but now it's a much more honest thing.

2:09:36Yeah, because now you do your own thing Right and the people want to see Bobby. They know how to find Bobby and they go they seek you out So it's not like some random person's tuning in like who's this guy? And then you have to say something crazy to get attention. Yeah, now. It's just you could be yourself You know, that's the difference like if you got a million views on tiger belly That's a million people that really want to watch your show. Wow. Yeah, that's not random You know, if you get a million people that are on like some comedy central show a million people watching that they're flipping channels Yeah, they like how many of them are looking forward to it.

2:10:08How many of them just stumbled upon it? Yeah, probably Quite a bit most shows Don't have like loyal dedicated viewers unless they're like streaming shows Yeah, mostly if you're watching strange things that's what you want to watch But there's a lot of things that are just not that popular and the numbers are like still not as good I know the podcast thing is a wild guy tried on the street LA and I see a show. I'm like who the fucker Who's on that? No, what's gonna watch man? I mean maybe maybe but like good. Yeah. Yeah I mean, I liked that they're still doing them. I don't want them to go away They try to kill that man.

2:10:43This fucking last strike Dude, I had so many friends. I know. I stopped doing stand -up and just been writing that went into a panic Because they have mortgages and they just started Can we start doing stand -up again, right? Wow. It was hot. He hadn't done stand -up in seven years. Wow And I know Owen Smith was getting back at the road again. We had him at the mothership But he's a guy that I was always saying like that guy that's a velvet prison for that guy He's too good. Yeah, he's too good. I love that stand -up. Yeah, not be huge. Yeah. I love him He's one of the best comics in the country.

2:11:13Yeah top 20 in the country without a doubt. No question at all I was Smith. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If I'm making a list of top 20 in the country, Owen Smith's on that list He should have wore sweatpants on stage, though. Who gives a fuck? He's got a more swept. He got a big big dick. Let him have him. Yeah, you're right He's funny man. He's so funny that guy. He's so good. Big dick dude. That's a good thing. He was in town Yeah, he's a couple weeks ago. Yeah, we all sat in the balcony and watched his set. Yeah, he did my show And then he did my show on Thursday and then he did The week in he had blind.

2:11:41Yeah, it was awesome. I just also want to tell your fans. I have a pretty medium sized dick It's regular thank you. I've seen it again. I know I'm lying there like it's like like a minion No, it's no one's a regular it works. It's great squirts. The whole thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you so much every other day It's squirts. Yeah, everything is It works. It's great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got that out there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah Judgy by something you can't control. Yeah, but it's been a real blessing man It really has and I the podcast things a blessing for all of us obviously Yeah, it's in a change standup.

2:12:15It really did it created way more theater acts There's so many more theater acts and arena acts guys like sholts and all these guys and they just releasing their stuff on the internet Doing podcast becoming popular through podcasts. Yeah, it's an amazing way to live I mean, I was in Hawaii with cigar was in town. I was just there vacationing in cigar goes. I'm doing a show Do it so they announced me. Oh, that's great. Right. It was like six thousand cities, whatever right And when they I'm and I don't want it's not a bragging thing But when they said my name. Yeah, and they walked up there I had never felt that before my life.

2:12:47It was a cure. I'm in town for I leave tomorrow morning. Shit. I know once you change your flight do do my show tomorrow night at seven really? Yeah, yeah Okay, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll change. I'm birds gonna do it too. Oh, he is yeah, be the town Crystians in town. Oh, I do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it'll be fun. Oh my god. They're gonna go bananas. Okay, good. That'd be great The beautiful thing about those show Shane will be on the show too. Oh, it's gonna be awesome. Okay Yeah, I'm good.

2:13:16Here's a thing Yeah, and this is what's great about it. I'm not afraid. No, you shouldn't be afraid. I'll follow you. It would be hard Very difficult. You don't have to do that. Yeah, yeah, but I wouldn't be afraid of doing it. Listen to the show's gonna be amazing Yeah, it's gonna be amazing. All right, pinch clips on the show. It's gonna be amazing. Okay, Simpsons here. I love him. Oh, he's the best Yeah, yeah, he's so good dude. It was good to see also old friends last night. It was great. Yeah, yeah, like I missed them Yeah, man. Yeah, yeah, we took all the good people You fucked this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't I made life better for these folks.

2:13:46It's a better place to be man It really is. It's a better place to live this less traffic and so many people last night after the show We're like moving here and I'm like I'm gonna talk to Andrew about it. You should be we have to move together Yeah, but look we can have a maybe like a house that we come every once in a while Yeah, yeah, yeah, look Santina would love it here. I know you would love it here. He likes doing TV shows too though that fucking idiot Yeah, but this is I know but it's a different craft and it's you know I'll tell you something. He always wanted to show you know, but guys like shultz and these young guys right?

2:14:18It's not a part of their dream Right, but when I came to LA. I was like I want to do movies. I love movies. I get it. I love watching it But here's the thing Bobby. Yeah, you can always still do movies. I still get offers for movies. Yeah, you can still do them I know I am doing yeah, one percent could go back and do them. Yeah, you're a free man. I know and you've got some cash I know but you get it makes fun of me about it. I don't cliff's apartment. Oh my god His house is fucking insane apartment. I know this giant balcony which you can get here in Austin would cost you 20 million dollars in New York Wow, oh my god.

2:14:53It's incredible. Yeah, life there is amazing the life in downtown Austin. Yeah There's so many great restaurants. I know or cool tonight. What are the pasta bar? It's gonna great. Oh, that plays great. Yeah, dude It's incredible here. I know it is so much live music here Well, I'm Gary Clark Jr. Has a club. He has Anton's. He's one of the owners there. He's there all the time Last night after the show this tall blonde that would never talk to me in LA Came out to me. Give me a side hug And we had we could connect to eyeballs And I if I lived here, I think I could right and I'm like that also is an incentive You know, I mean because I'm single I love Texas.

2:15:31I know there's so womanly. I love womenly womenly. Yeah, I love it too Anyway, really good to be here great. You can bail if you want you're gonna do you gonna keep going. Yeah, keep going Why what we can stop I yeah, it doesn't matter. It doesn't know we're talking about hours is that's good enough That's huge. It's plenty. Yeah, yeah, but if I leave you're gonna keep going no, no, all right I'll stop now. Okay, so the next time I have all the things I want to talk about perfect. All right perfect We're thanks for having me on a full podcast. It was beautiful. Thank you so much for having my pleasure brother watch The drugstore June so now that we cracked our ice and we did this we'll do them more often right?

2:16:11Yeah, 100 % Yeah, consider moving here, man It's a thing like I said Theo's considering Paul is considering we have some totally sure is a different human being now I know sure is so loose and so friendly and so silly on stage. Oh, I love him and he's killing I love him. He went up in the in the little in the little boy the little room And I hadn't seen him in years and I go do that was so funny. You were so loose. Yeah, he's like at the commister I was always tense. Yeah, it's like it's hard for me to be free. He's Is a different person? I also I wouldn't be in this business without him and that family Oh, her I mean, that's why she's here.

2:16:47She said two things to me as a young comic. Okay Okay, she's a it's a sin to support mediocrity Right, I still don't know what it means. But I still have it in my heart But then one day I was at bullies restaurant You mean in in lohoya whether I was when Freddie Soda used to drive her down He would go come eat with us. I miss Freddie so much. I did too Yeah, yeah, and so one day we were sitting there at bullies restaurant in lohoya and she goes Do you know what makes a star? I go what she goes 50 % of the people have to love you But it's okay with that other they other have hate you. It's all in the same Right And it's like when I read bad comments now on you know, cuz I get some because I'm like I've risen right?

2:17:31I just take that into the thing that it's like it's attention Right, it's not personal. You know what I would tell you to do what don't read them. Yeah, I haven't don't read it Yeah, yeah, you don't read no no Yeah, yeah, I don't read articles about me. I don't read shit But if you read it would it hurt your feelings it could yeah, it could okay, it could bother you all right You're a human being yeah, yeah, someone says something especially is not true And it's and it's influencing people on a fucked up wear paints the least charitable version of you People also don't realize that I'm a sensitive guy.

2:18:01We're all sensitive right sensitive to that's why they're lashing out The reason why they're writing mean shit is because they know what hurts them A kind person a happy person wouldn't be writing shitty things about you They're doing it because they're it's that old expression hurt people hurt people But when they make shit up do the other day I read I'm sorry. She I read this is what I read I heard Bobby Lee abuses his animals Okay, like why are the because they want to hurt your feelings. They want you to get angry. I can't know boo. I believe you She she knew dude. Yeah, I get them the best I go what's the most expensive shit the healthier shit Should they have all those oils and stuff on this is not all every day You know every other Yeah, I mean We're the cats hate water, but they love fish It's kind of crazy.

2:18:50Yeah, yeah, they love fish. They love fish. Yeah, they don't want you to know where near that fucking water. Yeah, yeah Yeah, anyway, I don't abuse my animal. I love animals more. Yeah, I know, but it's like insane of course you don't of course Yeah, yeah, so I don't read it and don't just don't read it because Even if you read a hundred things that are awesome one that sucks is gonna like stick in your head Because that's how a human mind is designed designed to find danger in conflict and look out for it Because it could hurt you and so when you see that one thing That's the thing you're gonna concentrate on is the one person that hates you.

2:19:23Why do they hate me? Yeah Oh my god. What if they're near me that feeling of hate Is the same feeling that you would get if there's someone that's dangerous. It's from another tribe That's looking at you over the hill and you think they might want to kill you like oh fuck and you have to think about them You don't think about your friends that love you you think about the danger and that's natural It's a natural inclination of the human mind right, so you do that with social media too You don't see got the danger that no don't do it and don't spread it either the people that spread it You you don't realize what you're doing But you're also affecting yourself because you know that what you're doing unless it's like the person you're going after some legitimate Nazi or something.

2:20:01I mean like most of the time when people are attacking They're they're attacking someone to try to hurt them because they know that they can be hurt too It's like a lot of the people that are doing this shit on social media all day long there we know them They're mentally ill people. I don't need a name any names. I can't But there's some of our severely mentally ill people. Yeah, that are just liars. They're insane. They're full of shit They're they're on medication and in therapy and then just lashing out at other people's behavior And it's like they don't realize it like To be a good person also means to be nice to everybody It doesn't just because someone has a differing view on something you can't demonize them and turn them into a non -human But people do that because they're terrified of that happening to them.

2:20:48Yeah And I also don't like when people try to do things like that. I'm not mad at them either I don't have like a thoughts of revenge or you know, I mean, you know I just you know I just feel bummed that like they feel that way or whatever you know, but I have no I have I love for people I know you do yeah, I do yeah, I love you, okay anyway. Thank you. Bye everybody. Bye. Bye. Thank you Be