#2093 - Sober October Crew

26 Jan 2024 · 3 h 42 min

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The Joe Rogan Experience: Episode #2093 - Sober October Crew

Episode Overview

This episode of The Joe Rogan Experience features guests Bert Kreischer, Tom Segura, and Ari Shaffir. The conversation spans a wide array of topics, from personal anecdotes and comedy to discussions on societal issues and personal reflections.

Guests

  • Bert Kreischer: Stand-up comic, podcaster, actor, host of "The Bertcast" and "Something's Burning," co-host of "2 Bears, 1 Cave."
  • Tom Segura: Stand-up comic, actor, podcaster, author, co-host of "Your Mom's House" and "Two Bears, One Cave," and host of "Tom Segura en Español."
  • Ari Shaffir: Host of "The Skeptic Tank" and "You Be Trippin'."

Key Discussions

Comedy and Influence

  • Andrew Dice Clay: Discussed as a comedic influence and his unique brand of performance art.
  • Social Media and Pranks: The impact and legality of public pranks on social media, with examples involving celebrities like Matt Damon.

Risk and Adventure

  • Extreme Activities: The group shares experiences involving skiing, snowboarding, and the risks involved, including personal injuries and near-death experiences.
  • Skydiving and Other Thrills: Conversations about the thrill and danger of extreme sports and the mindset needed to engage in them safely.

Technology and Privacy

  • AI and Technology: The potential of AI in creating content and its implications for privacy and content creation.
  • Social Media Algorithms: Discussion about how algorithms drive content visibility and the impact on user experience.

Personal Health and Lifestyle

  • Cold Plunges and Fitness: Joe discusses his fitness routine, including cold plunges and kettlebell workouts.
  • Sober October Reflections: The impact of taking a month off from substances and the personal growth experienced during this period.

Philosophical and Societal Issues

  • Historical Civilizations: Discussion on ancient civilizations possibly being more advanced than currently understood.
  • War and Human Nature: Reflections on the nature of war, power dynamics, and human behavior in extreme conditions.

Miscellaneous Topics

  • Food and Travel: The guests share experiences from traveling and dining at high-end restaurants around the world.
  • Cultural Observations: Reflections on various cultures and how they handle technology, food, and societal norms.

Episode Highlights

  • Anecdotes and Humor: The episode is filled with humorous stories and personal anecdotes, showcasing the camaraderie among the guests.
  • Deep Dives into Complex Topics: Joe and his guests delve into complex topics like ancient civilizations and AI, providing thought-provoking insights.
  • Personal Reflections: Each guest shares personal insights and reflections on their careers, health, and life choices.

Conclusion This episode of The Joe Rogan Experience provides a blend of humor, personal stories, and deep discussions on a variety of topics. It highlights the unique perspectives of each guest while engaging in meaningful conversations about life, technology, and society.

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0:03The Joe Rogan experience trained by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day looking for me you go out at the picture you want to be your picture no one wants to talk to anybody is that the one? his dice plays his Instagram is performance art they don't appreciate it because performance art is snobby and you think like you have to be left leaning you know libral, super fucking progressive like that's the only way you can have performance art but no what Andrew Dice Clay is doing some of the best the funniest thing on his life why don't you give him the hat? the king's hat? that's one the king's hat?

0:47what about the hat? my hat the king's hat? no, what I'm saying I can see that you're a film I'm talking about my goal over here oh no if you want to the picture I would you know I would you see that? no you want to the picture with me? no yes? you want me to take you a picture? no I thought you were the one who did I'm just a super person alright I just said the king's hat I haven't even worn it for years alright take care he does this so many unsuspecting people first of all is this even legal? did you see the one with Matt Damon? no he just got Matt Damon he got Matt Damon? get Matt Damon no, Matt Damon no, Matt Damon's at the fucking airport no, having a beer and a burger no, and he goes okay, then he's like he's gonna see it it's so fucking bad it's so fucking bad it's so and Matt Damon is the sweetest animal alive he just looks at him like huh?

1:54huh? and by the way, Matt Damon's at fucking L .A .X. in the in delta just having a burger and a beer like a regular fucking dude and he is just hanging out you gotta find the video he seems like a very normal guy but he's like this is why I do this this is how to call you this is it a couple interactions I think that's fucking self -wise this is even a lounge no, it's not lounge alright and the face with the glasses is the picture the picture with the face no, no who's this? Matt Damon has no fucking idea no, no, no fucking idea no, here's the question is that legal? sort of a f**k and is that legal?

2:34you can just take some guy who's working in a poultry shop in Andrew Dice Clays he wanted the picture he does it a shit he does it a shit he's fucking guy so like you're in public right? and if you're in public, you can be filmed which is also wild which is a wild which is a wild it's kind of wild and you can be filmed against your knowledge yes my favorite is when those young white kids do it to just black dudes and then they're like hey did you want me to kiss me on the lips and the guy goes no, you're talking to the wrong motherfucker and he's like in a second and then he just jaws the dude and knocks him unconscious and you're like there's a bunch of these that go sideways they're stupid they're not really thought out or there's the fart prank you know like there's people that do fart elevators no, the fart like in public but they'll go to like the hood and then like walk up where people are hanging out and then just fart and you see black people like a nut and like get up and like chase you it's because it's like it's your trying to elicit this do you remember could you react to this?

3:33yeah it's very super dangerous to do that it's very dangerous it's very dangerous because they don't know that you're doing a prank like they don't they think you're a crazy person and they think they can't get stuck if someone's that nuts they just get right in your face out of nowhere with some goofy thing to say like if you're doing the fart one they think you're like you're coming over so we're people just a fart yeah yeah it doesn't go well no it's for a prank from my youtube who's what are you talking about? you just pick the wrong people and they just instantly go into violence did you see the fucking guy oh my god this isn't Europe where his prank was he pours liquefied dog shit on people oh my god yeah yeah yeah he just got arrested so you're on the subway and he has a bucket on a no dog shit that he's putting the bucket and put water in and then he's dog gonna rest it on people yeah he's on the head just kill him you two were arrested for throwing bucket of poo on train past he's done it many times like satis filming he's got just a prank oh my god oh fuck this guy oh my god that's a bucket of shit oh psycho path yeah and then he's just like what a psycho path he just dumps a bucket of shit on this guy's back hellgum have heard another's crap and that's an easy way to be dead oh my god the throw you in front of the train that is so crazy yeah there's a lot of people that is so crazy just dumped it on the guy's neck i feel like water for a second then you got to realize oh shit all over your hours from home look at that little black check going what she's like i'm going to be a prankster it's insane this is the most insane thing I've seen but that is like he's not being charged with a soul bad you know well I think it's like a bio -terrorism too there's something like human shit falls into a weird category yeah sitting on someone is like super - almost like hitting them yeah there was a guy in New York who's rubbing shit in people's faces in the subways really?

5:38yeah just coming behind with pick -up dog shit and then just rubbing on people to Native Americans he's adept at our heads and shit just to ensure that you'd be infected yeah wow yeah the poison people when you get hit right because immediately you're getting yeah you're getting infected they knew about that shit is what caused all the plagues yeah so it caused all the plague we saw that guy that was shit in his hand Tom and I have an offer out to Mark Cuban to rub shit on our faces for $1 .75 million his shit you're shit on your face no no no he's no now listen we're hoping that Elon hears this and then ups the ant it says Mark if you shit on your face I'll give another 1 .75 but yeah Tom and I Tom's fans of this guy that shit's on his face there's a guy that you're a fan of there's this guy oh he's trying to let Tom his guy that will like he'll do like a birthday wish naked he just stands there naked and then he flops his dick around but if you pay him more he'll shit in his hand you're not going to believe this is actually worse when you see it it's pretty bad it's pretty bad it's naked Martin oh my guys worse you see it it's pretty bad Joe Joe Joe Joe you haven't even heard the worst oh Joe you got a surprise coming your way you got a surprise coming your way so worried Joe you'll get it I'm going to have to watch this so you get it hey hey you're going to make me watch this what it looks just like do the one with the oranges Wait I'm pleased do the one with the oranges Bob's house dude I had a really hard time not throwing up there's multiple times I had to look oh this guy looks like old Joe if you go to his naked mart -twitter you might be able to find it naked mart -and -dot -co -dot -uk is that what it is this for the folks at home this is if you want a book a video oh my god this is 12th of folks if you want to get yourself a video but usually this gentleman is a naked mart yeah Martin naked mart -and -dot -uk naked mart -and -dot -uk naked mart -and -dot -uk it's all about showing it's hogg which by the way is by the way hold on hold on stop stop he's magic that's the reverse video yeah that's the reverse video that's the promo video I would have done it all fucking what can I still some fucking take this pause to point something out here how wild is Twitter how can you have full porn on Twitter Twitter goes full porn but no but for some reason that is like outside of the conversation when it comes to advertising boycotts that's totally true isn't that interesting it's like they're saying if you allow certain kinds of conversations we won't advertise you're going to cover his go back to the glasses go back to the glasses go back to the glasses oh my god what are you going to do what are you going to do fucker don't wear a murder yeah but the fact that I do that this guy is going to I'm gonna check juice Oh fucker fucker I legit just wretched legit just wretched I almost lost it you got to find a smate stop it Hey, we're in the gym.

9:06Please stop on your own face Don't do it. Don't do it. Jamie bring it back. I think I need smell exhaust okay, but I wanted to ask you didn't pause you've had like I remember you had Jack doors Jamie talk to me I need a drink I need a cigar and he's something clean the Prices so crazy that's someone's baby boy. Oh fuck no no no more come on buddy Wait, hold on so When you've had like back in the you had Jack Dorsey on yeah, you've had Zuckerberg on This episode is brought to you by Buffalo trace distillery actually have some Buffalo trace cigars here. They just sent me one of the world's most award -winning Distilleries that's been making whiskey the same way for more than 200 years Made as a tribute to the rugged free spirited pioneers who blaze their own trail To new frontiers it embodies the perfectly Untamed spirit of independence it defines what an award -winning bourbon should be aged nearly twice as long as competitors in new charred white oak barrels and Bottleed at 90 proof Buffalo trace is the perfect bourbon to be enjoyed in any way anywhere and the taste It's damn good.

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11:20Oh if it's this and this could be misinformation or we don't know if we can verify You know it never feels like oh, that's the clear answer But on Instagram. There's this thing where like you know somebody could say something about Whatever a political candidate maybe co -vitter and then people go like that account is gone, right? Or it's like yeah, but you and I have a text thread that is Pretty horrific It is fueled only by Instagram. Yeah, and you're like wait. Why is all this okay? Tom and I every day Tom and I every day send each other the most horrific shit. We find on Instagram. Right Every day.

11:58It's bad. It's people getting run over by trains every day. It's people getting all What are they say what they say? Fucking electrocuted hit by lightning dump trucks fall on top of them. It's so I asked so I actually ran into an engineer at Metta two days ago Mm -hmm, and he was talking to me and and I I kind of like was like what's up with this? He's like yeah, there's just so many accounts. It's hard to and I'm like no Yeah, I go these are accounts that have been up forever and they just have murders well here not only that They just show up in my feed and I'm not following them. Oh, yeah Oh, yeah, that's the thing.

12:34It's like they said he said two seconds watch that shit He said if you look at something for two seconds that knows you like it. They will start So does the algorithm recognize do you like car accidents? For sure or that you're watching them It's just saying this guy will watch it's like don't click on that cuz it'll lead to more It's point is that that means that the algorithm algorithm recognizes what that video is right? So if the algorithm recognizes what that video isn't it doesn't flag it then it can it could take it off if it Right, it's a one exactly But if they wanted to just like not only like let the algorithm encourage you to watch it Yeah, but leave the videos up because the baseline goal of all those is keep you on the platform We should go back in our text thread like six months and see if any of those videos are still up I bet you a lot are that would be wild.

13:25Yeah, cuz some of the ones There's there's so many war ones. Oh, so many ones of like drones dropping down on people you're watching their legs blow off I was a bit of a sinkhole. Oh, yeah, I saw four black teeth fall into a sinkhole. I thought guys St. Coles are crazy like one day your house can just fall into a bottomless pit Yeah, I didn't know where the earth collapses underneath where your structure is a car in an intersection Yeah swallowed up while you realize that like who do you call do you think you like hey? I'm at the mayor Yeah, there's nothing you just did it well the the reality is asphalt is Propostrous it's a ridiculous idea it fucks up erosion It does so many thing like it fucks up absorption of the water naturally into the ground Covering everything with rock.

14:18Yeah, they're gonna call your antifalter and then underneath that What's happening what's happening underneath all that rock? I would imagine a lot of that water is moving around in there And if it creates a nice little pocket and then you get the weight of all these buildings and then one day just Just go under dude Blockes have you ever seen like those crazy giant sinkholes? We're like a whole block is falling into it. Yeah, I think I'm gonna get a giant sinkhole That's not real. That's not real No, that's the shop is that photoshop? Yeah, he used to be look at it Read the caption. Oh, no, it's real.

14:53That might be after after imploded. Oh, man It might be real so deep though Yeah, let's let Jamie double check what I think that I think that one was real They did a good job with the overhang if it's okay if you're looking at the ground You you're you're thinking the ground if you're looking down right? You're thinking the ground I think it's real this real that was the original nine 11 It's insane because it looks like a fucking UFO just went through the earth It looks like a black hole went through the earth. Yeah, it looks so perfectly cut How lucky are you if you're the house on the corner that now has a beautiful view so lucky Well, how are you thinking about moving?

15:34How much you think about moving Hey, be careful coming out be careful leaving It came out of almost a perfect circle. Yeah, that's so weird How that make you feel so like so small in the world I would like you hey just falling and falling and falling away from there of course I would want to get the fuck away from that spot that spot spot might fall into the earth But it just makes you feel like you're so arrogant for the oh the any of this is yours the arrogance when the big waves were coming in To California like a month ago about Why drove the girls out to go look at the big waves? They were fucking massive 20 feet You know, it's really impressive.

16:13It sounds like thunder and I look at Sweeped out by a wave she got there's a video of it. It's not bad. She's fine, but It's funny. There's it's on a How swept out? I just you can see it. It's not she can get taken out to see she got overtaken by a wave and It was it's funny because it's very lighthearted But then as and I don't even think I handed it well as a parent I was like yeah, you filmed it in help. I filmed and then said you Did your cell phone is your cell phone in your pocket and so But what's crazy is the moment of clarity after that we go hold on We're not safe here like this is oh that hang on this is actually really dangerous.

16:55This is Ila and She just like she was just fucking around and then oh boy and It's like aggressive Of course we're all laughing She's far enough away where I'm not scared. Yeah, sort of but if she's like for the back That's all coming back. What I'm saying is that like that's one of those, you know 50 50 feet here 50 feet there things like if you fuck up and you're 50 feet in front of that and you think you can get away I've had multiple ocean scares now like the ones where you're like crying on the beach Well, no just like in the moment. Yeah, I keep telling myself don't panic don't panic don't panic You know and one I want to remember wasn't Hawaii where we rented a Jeep and then we were like what we want to go see something You know, so they tell you I'll take this road and it takes you to this single road that goes up where there used to be volcanoes and we come up on this beach and they had mentioned the beach but not really too much about it and so when we parked I Was like I love the ocean water.

17:56I'm gonna get in the ocean, you know So I get in the ocean and I remember that going in the beach into the water was a decline, right? So like you go down And I was just like knee deep in there about and and I was like man this current is pulling back hard like really hard And I kind of take like a step back and I I feel Myself going further down a decline into the ocean. Oh, right? And when I I decide to get out I have to really push hard like all legs like boom boom like run like you're running up a hill To get out and I was like that was fucking That way of hitch you there was kind of that was a guy a W W Wristler they tell me though when I get back to the hotel they go I go yeah We took I go that that that that beach was that was a little scary they go did you get in the water and I go Yeah, and they go oh you can't get in that water like you'll drown in that water No one did you notice there was nobody swimming there?

18:53I got yeah, I noticed They didn't tell me they're like do not swim in that water They're like you can't swim out of that if you would like they're like if you would swim 10 feet in there like you're just gone Oh my god panic you feel especially in retrospect because you remember the feeling of being like I think I'm stuck here You know, I think I'm stuck right fit Simon saved a lady in Thailand really yeah someone was drowning and fit Simon's Swam out and saved them really yeah pretty sure it was Thailand somewhere crazy like that Yeah, it's on vacation I'm out of made up Thailand That's a place for Simon to go Thailand and oh he would go he's a world friend.

19:37He's a Hawaii guy He surfs in Hawaii wherever it was what Fitzsimmons went in the ocean saved no shit. Yeah, I saw my dad save a lady That's a scary thing it was at the bottom of the pool Just laying at the bottom of the water. Oh my god, and I was like nine years old It was like father -son he took me to resort and there's a slide You ever go on a slide where the water that comes off the slide that like so in other words like like when you hit the water It's like high impact. Yeah, holy shit, and it pushes you down. I'm nine years old So this is many years ago and I remember like I could swim I was on swim team like as a little kid But I'd remember being like fuck that is powerful like it pushes you down, right?

20:18And you just swim up and we're all people are you know at the resort and And then look down and my dad Swims at the bottom of the out of the pool and pulls up this lifeless body and then they do CPR and she came back And they would write letters to our house for years really she was 19 She see the guy oh my god snowboarder upside down when the random skier comes by yes Just sees us. No board sticking this far out of the snow Is this the one where the guy was buried under the snow? What the fuck he stops it? Go save the guys life randomly is this that is this separate? Have you seen the footage where the guys wearing the GoPro?

21:00Right and then he's like falls into the ditch like a hole. Yeah, yeah that you can is visceral that And they just like we'll see what happens Obviously he got out because there's footage Yeah, but when you're watching that you're like oh my god You could just fall in there forever and apparently that's something that happens tree wells That's something happens So this guy just falls and then watch this row What I know birch feeling this no, I've had a couple experiences like this. I mean man just to stop himself Yeah, what the fuck how the fuck do you get out of that how the fuck do you get out of that fuck the skis?

21:37It's over Joe, but no, he's that he's no no No, they they had to I think I've read read about this They had to get search and rescue he had to hang out down there for a while search and rescue had to come up Holy shit. They're more of the cheap. I think you see though. So lucky that he stopped right there But the way he right here. He's not flailing. He's like putting his arm in his ski out to try to like so this guy Was able to keep some composure Which is like kind of the crazy it's part. Oh my god. So this is the snowboarder that's buried upside down So this guy just sees that little blue piece bro Just this happened to me ski right over.

22:12Yeah, he can me easily To make that dude there's not much blue soft snow. He's in a tree well is what it is. So the tree wells It's really soft soft snow. So if you get stuck in a tree well, you are fucking dead a lot of people die in tree wells God damn yeah, I'm thinking again with this GPS thing I won't be one we went snowboarding and Matterhorn yeah, hella skiing and the guy put a beacon on us And the first he said he puts beacons like four feet of powder and he says This is so it can find the body And I was like what he's like my this is a crevasse or an abalanch So we put the beacon on to find the body That feeling this happened to me that feeling is terrifying this guys like thank you He's panic the panic.

23:02No, he was dead. I feel panic watching the panic So what happens is like what happened to me and when we were hella skiing is I felt face forward in powder I and we I just I'd never snow skiing snowboarding in powder four feet of powder is very different than snowboarding It's like you have to have your bindings reset You have to really know how to ride the powder and and I could not turn right and the guys hold me is like don't go within Five feet of my tracks stay within my tracks. So the whole time I can only turn left So at the time I really wasn't that could have a snowboarder and I but I could snowboard but not powder and so he's going like this And all I can do is go left and I'm just going off the track Oh, no, and I'm fucking panicking We're but by the way, we're like 13 ,000 feet 14 ,000 feet.

23:46It's very little oxygen I'm gassed. I'm fat. I'm hung over it's the day after the national championship that we went to so we eat netables It was like after that it was it was the day after that I flew to fucking I flew to Switzerland and immediately landed and went Hella skiing I don't remember that and so no no no when we went to Florida State versus Alabama 2013 you're 2013 so All of a sudden I go to turn cut right and I catch it my nose and I fucking go face for its snow and at first I'm like fine I push my arms in and they just do not touch anything. It just goes like this and now snows impacted on my face so I can't really breathe and I'm first of all I deal with panic but panic it kicks in Immediately and I'm like this is why I have the fucking beacon on and so I try to clear the snow out of my face But I'm like pulling all the muscles in my back trying to turn over and then the guy just comes up behind me grabs me on the back Flips me over and he goes you should see a sound guy my sound guy's upside down skis kicking Upside down in the snow and we just got the fuck out We got on a helicopter and got the fuck out.

24:53I was like this isn't safe. Yeah, I'm not interested in any of that nonsense Yeah, I tell you about my last ski experience. I only used to ski with my family You this resonates every time I go skiing because you go it's not worth it When I would go skiing because they wanted to go skiing and I would be like this is fun It's good for kids to learn early because they're really good at it and my wife likes it But I would be like don't get hurt don't get hurt don't get hurt didn't get hurt back up Don't get hurt don't get hurt don't get hurt didn't get hurt good So all I'm doing is mitigating risk the entire time I'm skiing because I've had fucking three knee operations I really know what it's like to blow your shit apart and they're like naïve To how vulnerable your knees are and kids are fucking rubber They just fucking bounce off rocks and they're fine.

25:46They fall down. They only weigh 80 pounds They fall down to get right back up right back up But so this last time I was going around this turn and this lady didn't know how to ski and it looked like she was just a fresh beginner And she was like doing the pizza thing, but she was sliding right into the trail And it's a it's a narrow trail and I'm like I have two options I'm wiping this lady out or I'm gonna catastrophically fall down. I went with option two And I fucking tried to slide around this lady and my skis went up in the air and I banged the back of my hand Hard oh, oh and I fractured my leg Yeah, it was it's called an insufficiency fracture.

26:28It's a fracture at the top of the the Fibula where the or the tibia rather where the tibia like touches the cartilage. I had a fracture and I was 100 % concussed Because I got on hold on excuse me helmet. Yeah, helmet on it. It didn't matter. It was hard snow Headfirst Bam and I remember thinking like wow that was a big one I remember thinking that like when I got hit I was like that's a big one and I got on the ski lift afterwards and I just miscalculated like I wasn't coordinated And I fell down and I couldn't get up what like I couldn't get up with Without help the lady had to help me get up She had to reach out and grab my hand and he had a concussion 100 % Yeah, 100 % so I'm I'm just Dizzy I'm off how long ago is this?

27:22A couple years ago was more than that more than that. It's pre -pandemic Joe I think about this every time I go fucking snow was three years ago. No, I think it was three years ago after pandemic Yeah, I think it was during pandemic. I know people started seeing again. It was definitely before I don't think so Joe this story resonates maybe It's four years old But I was like when did we go that's just and then Shane Dorian tore his fucking Neaport World champion big wave surfer tears is Neaport snowboarding just slammed into a tree and Well, you got a ski folks You want to hear story about I don't like no worry.

28:01Oh, no, no, no, no, no, let me let me share the story of skiing with Ari Shafir So first of all Ari gets this app that tracks how fast you're going So the entire ski trip is based on how fast you get it and Ari's like I think I got up to 70 I've been like a break 75 I'm gonna get 75 very right so I'm a 75 miles an hour on a skis That's trying to yeah, so we go our last run in there is on it's a blue And Ari is Absolutely reckless off trail. Well, cuz I'm better than me. I'm telling I was like let's race and I'm like go And I just got the one second head start so we got Sean Patten Mark Norman O 'Neal Relacies Yeah, and we're all just all we're doing is skiing to a bar.

28:43Okay, we're all gonna go get drunk and ski to a bar I just hear Ari fucking basketball. He dresses again fucking 13 year old basketball jersey. Fuckin He's got the Viking horn helmet on like a fucking lunatic This isn't that's my master that's my manager's either and look at like I got my sweatpants over the And so are you damn faries worth the top of the mountain. He's like let's see how fast we can go before you go to the bar And I was like I'm on a snowboard the fastest I'm getting is 37 miles per hour That's the fastest I'm going and I'm terrified because I hear you in my head going snow worth it It's not worth it because he'd already stopped Ari decides to break the sound barrier Pins his feet together and like a goddamn bullet starts fucking flying Literally feet in front of the bar wipes out and breaks his wrist snowboard it turned back too fast He was making nice wide look your wrist and then he like made his sharp one flew yeah demolished it He's gonna be constructed.

29:38Yeah, it's a pin in there really yeah And all I heard was Joe Rogan is not worth it We killed four years. I was going pretty fast. I was winning. I thought our knee was right up I mean he had stopped immediately you have to think about it this way for this momentary thrill of adrenaline and excitement You potentially risk a life of Catastrophic it's every time I come on this podcast Look I get it because life is finite. I get it. You want to live and experience everything you want But I believe you should mitigate risk and I believe people are I yeah, but I'm telling you I mitigate risk And the risk of skiing to me is like that one is like there's too many variables.

30:28What do you think the most dangerous? Around you do Well, when I'm training and I'm not doing jiu jitsu right now, but that's for sure the most Because of the potential damage yeah, you're practicing strangling each other Yeah, and you're doing it with people are really good at strangling people. Yeah, I love skiing so much grabbing your legs and yanking them apart Yeah, it's this last trip was a lot of some house. How is this king as a fact as a less packer as a sober person less I posted I didn't I did a weird thing this year This episode is brought to you by life lock Tax season is already stressful.

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33:49I didn't record anything. I just hadn't lived just lived wow My girls loved it They were like this is great. We're not on Instagram for fucking people to see But I and I wasn't drinking and I was perwalt and I was skinny and I was like I said the only thing I recorded was I only show you my favorite trick I could touch my foot. I could ever touch my foot snowboarding so getting my bindings on was so fucking tough So I know you know you got the way I got was in the way and it was so uncomfortable you were on stage Tuesday night. I was like you're too jacked Too jacked to take your shirt off now.

34:22You look great. It's not funny anymore. It is I don't I can't you know There are people that really believe that yeah, there are people that really believe it. Oh, no, it's not funny You're like it's your freedom of you being you as you taking your shirt off If you're freedom of you being you and now you no longer have a gut and you got jack shoulders You got traps and shit. It's like that's a celebration of still who you are also you're still fatter than you were when you were the Fat guy. Yeah, I'm still fat. I'm still fat. You got so fat that he lost weight I was like that's amazing when he started playing the fat guy Playing the fact you're the fat guy.

34:56You mean when Tom started fat shaming me. Yes, when Tom was fatter than me And decided to start fashion I And I evenly thought that when we did the first challenge which was the weight loss challenge that led to sober October group Yeah, I really thought like you'd like stay on that path. You got so skinny. I didn't care I didn't care You have to you have to want to do it. November first. I tell you right now sober October was an interesting experiment But I will tell you Having done like three months or whatever I did that one month is you and you and the big differences I stopped drinking on planes because I wasn't not drinking on a plane because of you three assholes Like I was not drinking because of you guys and then when you're not drinking you go I'm not drinking for me It's very fucking different.

35:40Mm -hmm. And then that was then I got really comfortable on planes And I was like oh, I can get through this. I can't scientists Like it just make a booze that doesn't kill you. Yeah, can't you fucking out there there has to be there has to make a booze that doesn't kill you So this is not a long way to if you can make synthetic marijuana and turn into pills There's gotta be a way to take whatever the fuck it is that alcohol does good. Yeah, it gives you that fun Carefree So fucking cool Right it's gotta be boys You the sun sets and the day goes away And just like in a good mood you get that buzz you ride it a nice meal like how many times we had meals on the road We're having a couple of drinks.

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36:34We're eating nice. Well, he goes. We're talking and we're laughing Lubricant enjoying ourselves God damn it's the best. It's the best the best such a fucking tool the Dude I was doing the Wilbur. I'll do it again this weekend But she asked a bloom rash stars. I drink it. You say ours. If you're just gonna be at the Wilbur in Boston this weekend Thursday and Friday the most in there. So funny. I thought you were in shy and Wyoming next week. How many shows? Is that you oh? Three shows so two shout any once one Friday through Friday one Thursday. Oh, no shit You're not gonna be at Atlantic City Hard Rock.

37:11No, who's that way? I saw no no. I'm there in the somehow You know, tell me what coming first of all he goes if I see you wearing those glasses, I'm gonna fucking break What he calls me like I'm in Hawaii. I'm like what like a happy new year and he's like you gotta take those off I go I need them to see though. I put them on to see. No, sir. He goes can't be those I go why he goes fucking doing the news and I go no That's when people read I go well, dude. I it's okay. Am I allowed I go can I wear another pair of glasses that are approved? And he's like he goes yeah, he goes but I he can't be those and I go okay And then he goes it takes his buddy Holly over here.

38:01Yeah, he goes. I'll see you in two weeks And I go where you gonna see me two weeks? He goes when you come to Jersey when you're in Atlantic City and I go Oh great. He goes I noticed the last last time you went to Jersey. You didn't give me a call You're hanging out with your white friends I go He goes don't think I forgot you're fucking Hispanic You give me a call every time you come to Jersey. I go okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm thinking of you Jersey. Yeah Joey's open to a residency here in Austin. Yeah, we're talking about doing it once a month Joey will come down for like three days. Great.

38:35Yeah, Joey and I should get a house together. I'm here for three days Dude he he loosened up On the podcast like like having a podcast with Joey like you forget Like what that dude is. I don't what a special unicorn here. There's no one even remotely like him He was there when already drugged me he came into my life He came he came I was having a story he goes I call him up I'm having a panic attack I go Joey. I already just drugged me. He's like I'll be there in five cocksucker Walks through the house goes Mrs. K don't come out back bad shit's happening out there Come out come out what's going on cocksuckers I go already just drugged me He goes let me he was let me see it Are you pulls out the other Molly Joey takes it eats it and goes we're all seeing the devil's dick tonight cocksucker No one's on my watch If you die I die we're all done He's the fucking best we're all see the devil's dick tonight.

39:41He's the best I see he's funny human being I have a house with Joey in a heartbeat. Yeah, well, I think that's one of the ways to do it I think I'm gonna make it I'm thinking about that I've been thinking about that anyway because I've been thinking about doing a studio in downtown Austin with a view because there's a like a park and instead of a view If you could do a studio in an apartment out there You could have nighttime podcasts right after doing a comic truck So you do a show at the comedy just like we do at the ice house So you do a show at the mother ship and then go straight up to the condo, which is like three minutes away I'm gonna I'm gonna make sense right I'm gonna problem solve this and after doing now I think seven sets it in this couple days at your club I think that's a horrible idea the amount of freedom that is at your club the amount of free speech at your club It's so dangerous Yesterday I went up and I was like wait.

40:37I didn't realize I can say anything. I want you should have seen his face light up Is it what is what is bags on our rice tables? Oh? Oh, you didn't know I didn't know oh, yeah, well, I was like wow Shane Gillis is really taking some chances And then how communism is good yeah Yeah, oh god And so I got up I was I was hosting and then did an hour at the end of the ship when we did like three hours at the end of the show But wild shit and I didn't realize you can say whatever you want you really can just take chances Yeah, I felt like I wasn't doing my due diligence as a comic So I wrote the worst joke I could think of like just insider joke just like a I was just and it was and it did well and I was like fuck This is crazy You want to take that energy up to that studio and do a fight and then and then I get off your thing And I'm I'm talking wild and then I go up to yours and I'm like, you know, what about Hitler?

41:27Here's the deal His dad wasn't a bad guy It kind of from good people because he was a beekeeper. You know that show you interviewed a beekeeper. I did interview I basically interviewed almost every walk of life. Thank you. Yeah. How many how many episodes have you done? Wow Wow Yeah, and then there's the fight companions which is like 100 and how many of those 60 to 70 of those in one of those Yeah, so that's another 200 what's your worst one? I don't think I have a lot of bad ones. Oh wow We can go around and nail our stinkers. Yeah, the early ones definitely I sucked at it. No, you didn't that's not what it was wild It's wild.

42:11Yeah, nobody knew you just but but if you're having conversations with people You're not good at like facilitating the conversation especially if you're talking to a scientist and you're trying to Get as much information into as many people's minds as possible It's if there's any confusion about what they're saying you have to know when to interrupt them or when to lay back When to you got a bookmark like a thought like I don't want to interrupt But I got a bookmarked this because I got to understand what do you mean exactly? Yeah You're gonna saying that way wait that wasn't clear to me can you say that like yeah I make that clear to me am I sure you can't pretend you understand something if you don't you know you have to You have to just like you're almost like Like a cattle herder a little bit for the conversation You're just kind of trying to keep the conversation You're trying to let it flow as much as possible But you're also trying to like you have to interact with it like safe to figure like what am I not absorbing about this?

43:05Do you feel like there's somebody looking back that you understood the least in other words you were like Fuck I don't get what is going on no matter how hard I try The simulation theory is the big one Because I have this conversation with what what what was that gentleman? Remember we had a lot he was I was hoping it was a subject I'd understand It's it's like swimming. It's about probability theory Probably yeah, so what his argument was was like simulation theory That that's it. Thank you. He's brilliant brilliant guy But when when we're having this conversation he was in he wasn't talking about simulation theory And saying that simulation theory the idea that this whole thing we're experiencing is just a simulation Because of probability theory because of the probability of extraterrestrial civilizations Just give the amount of planets that are out there the amount of time that is gone on This is an inevitable thing that's going to happen And that it's probably already happened that it's it's probable that this is a simulation if it's not It's going to happen and it probably already has The idea through If you're a real expert salute Oh, it's finished it.

44:20I know I'm butchering this But the the the I believe the concept in the layman's terms is that It given the sheer number of planets that probably have intelligent life and given the amount of time if they can develop Technologies to the point where we have and then further on to the point where you literally create Some sort of a simulation that all time and all experiences exist in And that this was something that was possible through technology Eventually and if you look at all these planets you look at the direction that human beings are going You look at how far our technologies progress in a relatively short period of time It's inevitable give it a thousand years 10 ,000 years from now if we don't blow the earth up We will have a simulation theory that's indesernable From the reality you're experiencing right now and that may be how life is experienced Sometime in the future when we integrate with computers.

45:18That might be like one step into that integration Well, so yeah, they haven't that conversation. Yeah, it's like what that also gives you I think you might have a better Perspective than people when you try to when you really Breakdown how Brilliant some people are like yeah, scale. Do you know? I mean like we're all of like moderate intelligence and you go like You can understand these things like I can have this conversation with you. No, no And then you know you you you meet people who you are notably not there And then people who are Existing on yeah, looking at a child. Yeah, you go out those people are really operating on another wavelength Right, like it's just like athletes athletic.

46:05I was about to say it's like athletic ability Yeah, some people who you go holy shit. Yeah, 40 inch vertical. Yeah, like just don't get like what? There's there's some people that are just I mean we've all met guys that don't even work out and they're just Ridiculously strong. Yeah, they just have superior genetics You know, there's there's a lot of folks like that that are just country strong the guy that will do the the Tomahawk Dunk and jeans and you're like You came came came came hands as children run marathons in jeans. Yeah, they're different. They're different people Yeah, I and his other sons a ranger.

46:40Yeah, they're yeah, I mean different. Yeah, different humans that that D1 body where you're like Oh, this is different. Well cam's dad was an athlete too really harder runner his book is amazing I think cam's it wasn't he had a jumper. I what did he do he was so modest He was like a very high level athlete his father was cam's modest is shit about it. He's so modest Yeah, he's like you're like how the fuck he like well, you know, you just gotta you know what man that guy is Always tired But I mean, that's why he's like so chill. Yeah, he's conserving energy knows this run 18 miles in the morning sleeps like a baby though I bet he sleeps like a brick.

47:20I think he's Christian. So then he doesn't worry about death Did you ever go to heaven? Yeah, he shoes. Have you run with his shoes? Oh, they're going over here. Those shoes are great I wanted to put a toast out or a post -out today. It's her that good. Oh, they're great He's sponsored for a long time He's a bi - on a armor and then he went for a second tried out Solomon and then he said fuck it I'm just gonna make mine. I think it's his own clothing brand But he's doing his very own shoe and when you get a mother fucker that can run like he does who develops technology in the Shit that makes him comfortable.

47:53This shoe is amazing. These bowelaces keep your heel in place blood splattered on it Yeah, that's blood That's blood you can say it's mud, but it's red shut the fuck up. You know what that is. I love that Tom's pouring a drink This is the time I love sneakers and they're super comfortable. They're amazing and the thing about so the thing about Planner fasciitis and a lot of people have is your foot moves around in your shoe Laces do that but with cam shoe those bowel things lock your heel in and I've been running every single day No, planar fasciitis and it's they're very fucking comfortable. Yeah, they're great You know, I think planar fasciitis probably is a lot about a foot strength and foot endurance, isn't it?

48:32I used to have it I think so like you just go too far Everybody also it's like the pTs will tell you that a lot of that originates from your big toes movement though Really if you start if you start to because you can feel planar fasciitis starting a lot of times You're like oh this is starting to get uncomfortable. It's not full bloom in the mornings And they'll tell you to train your big toe to work on strength your big toe Move to the york guy because you're walking constantly. Yeah, you guys walk so much more and then it's just like what the fuck's my heel Do you remember when you told me to get rafed from my planar fasciitis?

49:05Yeah, what does that mean? So comment over disaster hey, no, that's that's that's make a mark This is felching the whole world is gonna listen to show How many fucking people are gonna book a video With that guy right now. Oh so many He's rich right now order. Oh, yeah, it's gonna be rich. You know, in a perfect world. He would be rich Yeah, that's an oddity that like if you're gonna go that far We serve us. You deserve money. That's that's the only fans. I'm sorry That guy ate his own shit covered in come and we watched any smile. They smiled Who hosted fear factor for six years? I almost threw up Well from watching that screen we're so excited for you to get your What's the present nothing you'll see it'll be it'll be in the group thread haha That feeling of That's such a horrible film with a You know I do wait for you, yeah here's what's fascinating I lost it when I was filming fear factor Nothing can make me puke Completely desensitized before I was the kid in high school that like if you throw up in the hallway I would throw up I do You like you smell throw up like that's a YMH rich I think that's evolutionary I think that when you smell smell throw up no no no It's letting you know that someone around you has consumed something that's bad Yeah, and that you should purge too Right.

50:44Yeah, so it's it's like a survival in yeah, it's a protective in it's not a weakness to want a Throw up when you smell throw up. It's actually a strength. So what happens when people cry and I cry too It's good to because you're commiserating your showing your good person I Christ So much your sweetheart really cuz you're supposed to weed more Yeah, well weed weed is really beautiful. We look at the cry. It allows you to appreciate the emotional guy I get I cried the other day on our podcast you did he's grown tits. Nobody cries more I mean more he cries I cry I cry a lot I regret a couple cries Shults is I regret that one cry not shults as a podcast of course would you cry about fucking nothing?

51:22Bambi no He's tough no he fucked me out Park you is down no marketing. I think it is he marketing No, he brought out a clown and some balloons and it's fucking fuck me out And balloons made you cry no no no no no it gave me a panic attack And then I was yeah, I don't like clowns I'm just What What he really I let it in yeah What for real shults gave me the opportunity to not put don't need don't play it. No, no, no, no, no, there's no reason to play it Okay, no, you have a real issue with clowns and then you became one Technically, you know crazy yeah, I Have a real issue with clowns and a real real issue with balloons like if I smell balloons I fucking freak out.

52:16They freaked me out wasn't there a Jerry Lewis movie that was never released where he was like a clown in the Holocaust What oh really no No, no, no, Pat just the clown Pat that was no was Robin Williams Pat Adams Pat Adams, no, no, no, no, he was a doctor who was a clown for kids good morning Who's that The day that laughter cried yeah, there was a there that's what there is a Jerry Lewis movie There's some weird Jerry Lewis movie that never got released. Oh, that's weird long buried Holocaust movie the day the clown cried May finally be viewable one year today. So they barely buried it. Yeah, they buried it It's like One place everybody get me up in one of few people have seen even a rough cut of the film Can be a voice over artist Harry Sheer of the Simpsons told spy magazines in 1992 that the movie is so drastically wrong It's pathos and its comedy are so wildly misplaced that you could not in your fantasy of what it might be like and Prove on what it really is.

53:31Oh my god. That's all you can say This movie was so bad. I want to see so bad. They buried it forever holy shit. Oh wow They buried it forever and when did this movie get released? 72 so this is a movie from 1972 that was so bad that never saw the Like they put it in a vault in the bottom of the earth. I paid it. I paid a buy it Even if it's bad I want to see it. I want to see it more than I want to listen to that We'll take out that Martin Scroo Big J has it. What do you mean? Big J has it He went on Legion of Skanks. It's one of the most frustrating episodes to listen to because it's Legion of Skanks And you have Martin Scroo Lee and Shane Gillis is grilling him.

54:14Yeah, and then but you got Legion of Skanks being Legion of Skanks Yeah, they don't really care about the information. They just want to fucking talk about whatever and yet come and everything But Martin Scroo Lee set up the album you want it and all of them are like fuck. Yes So how to give it to them? You're playing. You're playing. You're playing. Like just sent them in the library. No, no, no, no, Legion of Skanks didn't know. No one ever shared it Wait a minute. Well, so what's Martin doing with it? He bought it. It's I got it Send everyone the episode. It's one of the most fascinating episodes of ever listen to have you listened to?

54:48No, I don't have it They have it. He had some good information where he's like you know, he was like got the thing for the AIDS It's so interesting. He's he's jacking the price. He goes you know what? No one ever said There's also a generic version of the same drug for $40 for $40. I don't know why you've always mad at me You can still get it. You just can't get the name brand thing. It's the best way you can get the generic version. Yeah What does the generic version mean? It's like Viagra versus whatever to the fuck. But wait you can hear it? No, no, no, no, no, no, no of the AIDS medication Oh Generic version was like what's that mean?

55:20That's finished. I was so I'm so confused about generic drugs That's hilarious Just went to like wait is it without Risa? This is a real conversant, but this is a real conversation because with AI they're gonna do that Yeah, you're gonna make new versions of Wu Tang songs. I can already did it with Drake I think that the thing too is you know how they go oh likeness and right like the stars like hey, you know I want to this movies without Tom Cruise will be like No, you cannot use my likeness like I'm protecting it. That's like with some of this like Labor union stuff is about protecting your your image and likeness.

55:55Yes, but they're I just feel like there's you know There's just gonna be One of these offers to one of these people where they go. Okay go for it right like it's good. Oh Bruce Willis has a neurological right. Yes, I forget I forget what it's called. Yes, we called aphasia. I think I might have yeah, you're right I'm talking about it. Not just bring it back to yourself. Of course, which is you're talking about I can't look at a post and not think about me He's Bruce Willis sold his likeliness So you can like this sorry you for the purpose of AI he did yes Yeah But in his position, I mean he's incapable of making money more.

56:42He has a real issue He's actually very advanced and they think this is towards the we're at the close to the end. Oh my god I follow his daughter to Lula So no Bruce Willis didn't sell his likeness to a deep fake company despite initial reports the deep fake company does not own the rights to Bruce Willis likely likeness partially because that's literally not possible the company said Willis appeared in a recent advertisement Through deep cake which managed to create a digital twin of Willis that can appear in new content despite the actual Willis retiring from acting as a result of aphasia A brain disorder that hinders cognition and speech abilities.

57:22I like the precision of my character will set of the process according to the quote and deep deep cake website It's a great opportunity for me to go back in time the neural network was trained on content of die hard and fifth element So my character is similar to the images of that time Whoo, so it's young Bruce Willis doing ads I sent you guys That's what they're saying. I sent you guys George Carlin's new special. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah That seems like That is what we're saying. Yeah, it feels like this is and also this is literal phase one of the yeah a list celebrity Yeah, being like you can use it for this.

58:06Sure like barris pricing gets to be a certain age right? When Trump's president again. Yeah, she might say you know what for just $1 million So it's my young face. So what about the people who it's not a major movie making it just some YouTube account Oh, when happens to many people, you know, what happens like to their state their estate can go with you would have the estate decides to The Maryland or Iowa state. Yeah, Charles Bronson sell and soap. Yeah, this is the George Carlin one that came out a couple weeks ago. Yeah. Yeah, how many views? It says change the cover center 500k They keep getting pulled down Really it keeps getting pulled down.

58:41Yeah, because George Carlin's daughter Kelly, I think keeps it doesn't want it up Oh, I disagree with that. This is it's put on a well YouTube account called dudes. Yeah, dude. She says I'm a comedy AI I like they wrote this as though dudes. He made it Yeah, if you will, uh -huh when you look at what dudes he is dudes is a Accountable it's will sass though, but they have an AI No, we'll see you in a way in a way in a way in a way in a way that's where it becomes like how would Will sassos have this super secret AI? Hold on will sassos will sassos has a podcast if I'm not mistaken where he has AI bring up the subjects of the podcast And that's what they talk about theoretically thinking this will based on research be one of the best podcasts out there Well, there's a podcast on it.

59:26Look click on that that's a George Carlin resurrected. That's what this is So this that's what I'm trying to say is like when I was looking into like what is this George Carlin thing? It's on this account right called dudes. Yeah, and they're saying like dudes. He made this. Oh, so they made it through AI It's most likely like that Kanye song we play with Tony where someone wrote in the in the in the like work in how George Carlin went right and then Performed at all and then got George Carlin's voice to go over top of that. Well, it's like a version of this voice Oh, wait a minute. So me. I didn't write the jokes.

59:55No, I heard a I wrote the jokes That's of that's taught that's what becomes very talk. You think you're saying that he that AI didn't write the joke? In this case, I don't know but it seems a lot more like the fake thing like the Drake song and the Kanye song where it's not a 100 % done by AI What you're hearing is like an AI doing a deep fake video like and who was right? I'll write it The in that case it was the rapper who wrote the rap song in this case. It's probably comedians who know how to write like on skates this week they played AI versions of their stand -ups to this to the Soda J Lewis Dave and One other guy forget and they were like here's your AI version of your stand -up and they just played it for them And they all broke it down.

1:00:35How was it? They said there's a lot of fun. It's hard to be worse. Yeah, butterly Hopefully it's not amazing I feel like we're joking around about the first rain shower that comes before the torrential flood that caused I think it's going to get bad. I think it's going to be a new world Like the world is going to be built in a very hazy way all this stuff about AI Everybody like we all thought it's scary and you see you know, I understand why writers were like writers guild was like really concerned about this And they're they're concerned by version one dude like this just started this Imagine the next first fucking iPhone and you're like also it's gonna get rid of a lot of shitty writers Stop All those Make something all those people keep making the same cop show over and over and get the fuck out doing mr.

1:01:39Mrs. Smith It'll replace it will replace a lot of low -level basic shit and you'll still need you still need your Christopher Nolan Yeah, but Christopher Nolan had to be a shitty writer first 100 percent. Yeah, you got to be a shitty writer first to become Christopher Nolan. Yeah, yeah, you got to be unless you're some wizard that comes out of golf and Charlie But that's very rare very rare the only thing I think that would be beneficial is be great If I could do my podcast with AI and then type in yo Can you take all the annoying parts of me out of there like when I talk over you or I talk like I would love Not talk over people.

1:02:13I don't need a kind of robot. It's kind of fucking tough. You don't need a robot. I finally I told you So Bert has this thing or anybody Anybody with any level of celebrity. He fucking geeks out Like like a tick -tock He's like on the biggest oh my god. I saw the video. Oh my god. I'm the biggest fan. I love you so much I saw thing and then he goes and then he waits to tell them about him He tells Mrs. Smith Imposter syndrome. Of course if you don't I am curious why I Didn't say I don't okay. Yeah, yeah, of course So aggressive Faley calm no, but in poster syndrome is kind of find out what he was feeling in poster syndrome has been Loaded is like a is like a slur is like I don't think it's a slur at all.

1:03:02I have it. It's a hard no No, I think it's a hard no no. I don't think it comes close. I think in poster syndrome is a sign of an introspective person He's trying to navigate a very bizarre situation. I think it's completely 100 % natural and normal And if you didn't have it again like what you said I would be curious And I think it comes in waves like you there's day. What do I feel it? Yeah, but what I the whole reason I brought you up doing that because you're You're ridiculous with it like you I'm really good to everyone. I didn't do it to Joe Oh, I did it Joe, but you told me you didn't do it to me.

1:03:37Yeah, I didn't see it It didn't well Oh Joe when I met you was that your front door I was I'd already zillowed how much you pay for your house I'm fucking said to you. I said you real quick. I said him and I'm such a big family. I need to meet your dog I need to see your deprivation tank I want to play pool and we get high and then we can do the podcast and you were very generous You're like cool. I'm gonna be walking in your door You said him and if you stand on this thing and you work out it like shakes your body whatever that thing was And you know come on. We'll go down see this and you took me out We saw John Johnny Cash.

1:04:09You say you told me like I just got this property to the dogs be out there Can we have them? We got the kids come on. We'll go back. We'll show you the swings that we'll get high We got high and then we did the podcast and I was like man that is deemed here's my thing is there is generous celebrities Like generous who give you their time and they don't maybe they don't notice and I was like this guy's a real fucking guy Like he's cool as fuck and then we did the podcast had a fucking blast And I remember going home going like Man, oh, I don't want to say this out loud I was like I want to be like that guy like I want to be like that guy like cool as fuck and real I remember Little things in my life where I've Pim pointed things in your life where I go.

1:04:45Oh, I got a thing that Joe had your closet was a fucking mess There were there were dildos or not dildos There was flasites everywhere and you had flasks so much sponsor we had we would give flesh lights away The early And you're Feels great, but I remember they gave us a fucking I had a perverts box Large large box like that Boxing is kind I got the alien butthole the blue one But you I remember you had so much stuff in there and you had this generosity go yeah grab whatever you want man It's all stuff from people that want me to check it out And I remember I took a bunch of vitamins. I like grab shit.

1:05:29I was I was when poor but I was like free stuff And I grabbed a bunch of shit and went home and I was like But I look at life and when you talk about imposter syndrome I highlight we talked about the other day I highlight cool people and I kind of want to be like them Because I go man, I want to be a better person, you know like But he does just like I met the lead singer of you know, welcome. I humiliated myself I humiliated myself I humiliated myself. He just tells him how much he loves them and then he's like have you seen my stuff? Dude, uh, he tells me he tells me he's our martin. Oh, yeah Food on Martin.

1:06:07How'd you be?

1:06:14It's when a bunch of foods out He's on a website. He's an app buffets near every duck. I saw him in a grateful dead concert. Oh really? Yeah, and I I clocked him like three times three times Thursday night Friday night Saturday night He went a bunch of and then Sunday night Here there's that sauce Sunday night I fucking I couldn't control myself man. I was a junkie. I was like the way a pedophile must feel when he sees good right Like best part is that's hurt tells him You know, shut up And then George stop George reveals things about the show that like nobody knows and then when they leave Leanne's like he believed he told you all that and he's like told us what he's like We told you all like those insights like secrets about game at Therese and he's like what secrets And he's like I just wasn't listening because I was I wanted to talk Okay, he's just waiting He told me secrets about Right he just embraced this aspect of yourself.

1:07:15It seems like it don't like it It makes you angry when it comes out you get upset at yourself But yet you also embrace it Yeah, it's so gross though. It's so gross It's like you're playing you playing tic tac toe against yourself. You're on it It's but here's the thing I wanted to confess to you because you go you told me That you admired the way that I am around celebrities. I love it. I want to be that you're the guy in an orgy You're the guy in the porn who's jerking off before he fucks her Like I'm the guy in the porn going I might be a worsen algae Clearly ever that one makes no sense no one's like no one listened to that was like yeah I Yeah Cool call but here's the thing I would I told him was the truth which was that I would say 90 % of the time when I meet a famous person I don't care that I'm meeting them In other words like they just I'm just like yeah, all right.

1:08:11What's up? How you doing? So it looks like I'm being cool or a loop But I just don't give a shit. He really genuinely does. I just don't care. He really does right because if you go like hey This is yeah guy from the show. I'm like what's up any time I've ever met a famous person I text Tommy immediately and go guess why I just met a center of picture and then and then Tommy has hung out legit His friends with Brad Pitt and Jason Mamoah and didn't fucking tell me and then I go Why wouldn't you tell me this immediately and he goes? I don't know I didn't think about it It just didn't really but then he goes well, what would it take and I'm like I don't know and then I text you last night I go I guess it's Snoop Dogg because I fucking went in days We were on Kimmel and I was in his dressing room and I was like I'm going I guess I'm going but I did my version wow I was like I was like it's so admirable that your career has lasted You didn't I'm gonna suck it great.

1:09:03You know what the top one is so nice. He's so nice He's so nice and all I did was I was like I couldn't believe I'm on with him I met him first first. He told me he's like good to see you again I was like we've never And then I went back into his dressing room and I was just like it was great to be on the show with you And I had to tell him I was like you know, it's just crazy to me that I bought your album I bought it in 93 right the year before in 92 was a deep cover I bought that and you're still like you're still Snoop it's fucking it's crazy It's 30 fucking whatever years. Yeah, he's got the best longevity And you know I just I just admired that like so much and then he like he said you know he says everything cool Yeah, wait try to guess try to guess what I'll make the fuck up She's the right He goes let me get a flick with you and I go oh That means picture like Let me get a flick and I was like yeah So he asked for the photo and then I was like yeah, this is I mean he goes yeah I want to be a movie star too.

1:10:06I'm like I'm not in any movie You're in a very big movie Mark Walbert So no, he is all day long. Do you know how he was there? So he lives in an alternative dimension. Yeah, and he really is not where we are It's very cool to be because you I know you've been on the park but like to be around someone and be around other people who you're like Dude everyone every age group every generation loves him Everyone says some history. It's fun. It's fun to be a Show the monster Stewart. Yeah, yeah, the only time I ever saw him serious is on this podcast when he was talking about how he had to switch to Backwards rolling papers And he was like the young kids are telling me and I really had to make a change Mm -hmm.

1:10:46Yeah, the blood is fucking show road blunts the entire time. Wasn't that like yeah crazy to be on a Shoe I live with Snoop for three a month. We lived in a hotel together Wow, we were cross a hall and I worked with him every day, but but I have to say and you know this I was really nervous about meeting Snoop second -over -well people sometimes like I'll just I have a right -wide large way Self -awareness that's advanced. Yeah, that's advanced right? I'm trying by said to Tommy Can you tell me how to meet Snoop? Because like I know how you do it you do it cool Tell me how to do it cool because I want to be friends with them Yeah, yeah, and you said and you said I Like you snoop will like you be yourself So I was myself and of course I fucking lost my goddamn shit and snoop stop Snoop stop and real quick like in the middle of me being me.

1:11:38He just facetimes red grant and he goes hey You know this guy and he flips it around and I go and red goes he's cool when he goes all right cool And he's like you're cool. It is me and Snoop facetime with Dave Chappelle and Donnell Rollins But that was the night we got high and fucking Snoop's the best man. He's like you got him to the point. Where's like maybe I don't want to be in this conversation He had to check my credibility He had to check my credibility. Yeah, we were talking about cat Williams and I was talking about print pimp pimp conicals and then I was and then It's embarrassing It's embarrassing, but I knew this snoop new red and I knew that if I brought up red Snoop would think maybe Okay, he might know people I know how smart but then immediately snoop called me on my shit and in the middle of my story Just facetime red you know him and then red's like yeah, he's great.

1:12:32I love bird. Yeah, but having you ever had conversations with people You know you don't know them and they pretend they know you all the time also bring up people that supposedly they know References you know you're not gonna check. Oh, you know Chris man. You know Chris. My boy Chris Yeah, I met this dude and he was like yeah, he goes we met before we met before with Mark Walberg I go cool never met Mark Walberg Oh Great I was like yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember. Yeah, I remember. Oh, you're crazy Crazy crazy liar person a lot of people say you bring your name up Yeah, that's a stounding yeah, I'm friends with Joe This is a guy.

1:13:10I'm not and I do it too. His dentist told me his dentist told him he played golf with Oh, yeah, what the golf? Guys, I'm a dance place golf with you. I just fuck every day. Yeah, but you're dead. It's crazy. Don't let him operate on you bro We put you under it's take his beard A thing to about the Joe connection is people being like can you give this to Joe? Oh, I get that all the time That's the thing I get They're like I wrote this can you give this to him? What is it another manifesto? Yeah, sure I'll definitely if the type is really little they write really small and get scared or you get the scariest is You're like two sentences in one line You know like one on top of each other.

1:13:54I'll be fucking terrified. You've seen writing on writing. Yeah Let's get some friends. It's a friend. Tell tell us. Get some friend. Yeah writing on top of writing What do we have on top of right? So like you write something in the right right right on top of it So like it's it's it's you can't read it. I'll you yeah, yeah, and then they'll be like check this out And so you immediately you're just like oh, yeah, no, this is good Okay, let's do it. Oh, yeah, this is really just people yeah There's some people that for whatever reason whatever fucking happens whether it's chemical or neurons whatever it is that makes that shift They're seeing things completely different from you.

1:14:28Yeah, by the way gentlemen. You all look very sharp Thank you. Hey, by the way, cheers to Burke because it was his idea for us all the way suits Cheers So the first one was the three of us and that was the weight loss challenge. That's 2017 17 I left there I left right I left yeah, you guys did it right before I took off it was there before you became a New York Comedian Bestie ever did bestie ever what shut the Yeah, I'm giving my heart. Ari. Ari changed. Ari changed the scope of comedy I'm a bird's cop Yeah, all right. You know what fuck you changed the scope of comedy. He did I did a United scenes you did I did the scenes.

1:15:11Well you were not no and results without Ari You would not know Chris the staff and I know you might you may not know Tim Dylan without Ari branching Ari, no, I reached out to Tim Dylan. No, I showed you a tweet of his and you're like that's good Hey, let's do you know doubt you 100 % introduced me to very funny Communities hold on James Joe. He's Joe you do not know the back tweets we back text we have when we want to introduce you to people Why because because you are the biggest you know like maybe a brand in the world What recommendations? I just like to find them I own and so it's like I do like to find as many things organically as possible I recommend that Brian Simpson.

1:15:52Yeah, he definitely did Yeah, well Tommy's recommendations are different than me and Ari's we recommended Shane Gillis for a year How long did we text back and forth Ari one time? I've taken this guy and we're like and we're like yo, we got to send him send him the Toyota ISIS And then and then Ari's like I'll send it you reply and be like how fucking funny is this Ari? Listen, I get the things oh my god. You're right. Yeah, I get to think about it. You do No, you know, it's all I It's too overwhelming the numb the wave that comes at me is too overwhelming So what I do is I just do my best just stay present Think about what I want a lot of information It's actually free because people like can you get me on Joe's podcast, but he's not gonna listen to me So no, I had there's no point the I had a guy.

1:16:37I'll say his name guy reached out on to be on Joe's podcast So fucking bad. You want to say his name sure? I don't care. I love I got it. I don't need to who is it? The oven Wanted to be on Joe's podcast before you would have ever like clocked him and he was like hey, man Can you help me get on Joe's and I said to Theo? At you know what it's not good if I take you to him trust me I go trust me. You're so fucking funny Joe's gonna find you and when you do his podcast You'll murder because Joe loves you and and and Theo's first appearance on this podcast Was a monster and and I'm trust you if I had said like Joe Can you take my buddy you would have you would have and Theo so bizarre that if you don't know who he is I must always take comic recommendations like if Ari recommends someone almost always 100 % hatred This Joe we're saying yeah, yeah, we're Joe.

1:17:25We love you. We love you. What? No, yeah, I do. I just don't I I filtered them in when I see fit I have Scientists and athletes and authors and movies time so there's there's this funnel of people and I have to keep it in the realm of What do I want to do yeah true? I got to ask you one That and there might not be one answer, but maybe there's a few Have you ever had the most like okay? I'll have them on like like yeah I'll have this person on isn't and you're the most impressed like most blown away by them You know like they were great. Yeah, like where you like and it doesn't have to be a comedian It could be athlete actor as scientists where you're just like holy shit That was amazing and you weren't expecting it.

1:18:12You know what if I mentioned one I would do a disservice to so many Of that I don't that way yeah, okay. Yeah, there's just so many there's so many the people recommend me wrongs Holy shit. Oh, he was amazing He was like a couple of times mom and that was like one of those ones where I was like I would worry that we wouldn't get along. Yeah, you know Henry he's very volatile. Yeah, he's very volatile I grow yeah, but like in a weird way that I feel like I'd you struggle to I feel like if you if you can Front him with any aggression He comes back at you tenfold and feels justified You know like I was on a radio station once in Austin and they put they had this conversation with them and they said something and it went He interpreted what they said really badly and then he went off on them and just fucking attack them and just talking about how Successful he is and it was a weird conversation.

1:19:09I was like here on those but I know guys like that I know guys like that from fighting. There's certain guys that you just have to Massage your relationship with them. Mm -hmm And I'm not saying that's Henry wrongs, but I'm saying it's guys to get angry really quickly and like maybe miss You know, I don't navigate that really well though and the dude first of all He was like Henry wrongs at one point time was like a fucking serious power lifter You're see like when yeah, when he did that video. I'm a liar. Do you ever see how jacked he is? Yes Put up put up I'm a liar but Come on a lot now, you know, he's like he's like settled into his older years He mostly does body weight stuff.

1:19:48We actually had a conversation about it But he wrote an amazing essay No, that's Franco Colombo No, there's the there's a video. There's a music video. That's it. That's it I was like he had a bullet in it You see how he's screaming in that that snapshot that is that's from the video. That's from the music video the music video is Has nothing to do with this essay, but he wrote an essay about lifting weights. What is it called Jamie? Something about truth is in the iron It's fucking great Truth is in the iron's the iron that's what it is Does he say it here? Give me volume? Did you mediation of teachers calling me garbage can and telling me I'd be mowing lawns for a living?

1:20:36Yeah, this is a kid reading Henry Rollins book. That's what that is. I'll put the job. Just get to the Go to the essay itself kind of like Henry Because it's an essay that he wrote Henry Rollins by the way writes constantly He writes for a bunch of different publications. He writes essays all the time and he listens to a shit ton of fucking a Shit ton of music like on vinyl is this insane setup in his house where it's like $250 ,000 speakers. It's madness. He's just a music fiend So this is it. I believe that by definition of definition Oh, I believe that the definition of definition is reinvention To not be like your parents to not be like your friends to be yourself completely when I was young I had no sense of myself All I was was a product of all the fear and humiliation that I suffered fear of my parents the humiliation Of teachers calling me garbage can and telling me that I'd be mowing lawns for a living in the very real terror of my fellow students I was threatened and beaten up for the color of my skin in my size I was skinny and clumsy and when others would tease me.

1:21:46I didn't run home crying Wondering why I knew all too well. I was there to be antagonized and sports I was laughed at a spaz I was pretty good at boxing But only because of the rage that filled my every waking moment made me wild and unpredictable I thought was some strange fury the other boys thought I was crazy I hated myself all the time as stupid as it seems now I wanted to talk like them dress like them carry myself with the ease of knowing that I wasn't going to get pounded in the hallways between classes years past and learn to keep it all inside I only talked to a few boys in my grade other losers some of them are to this day the greatest people I have ever known Hang out with a guy who has head his head flushed down a toilet a few times Treat him with respect and you'll find a faithful friend forever But even with friends school sucked teachers gave me hard times.

1:22:40I can't read this forever This is gonna boy. Yeah, let's get to the weight part Oh my god, have you ever had your head flushed in a toilet me? Yeah, no Okay, have you of course really? Yeah, I love that you brought Henry Rawls again back to you Yeah, I prefer it's a pivotal moment and the thing is have you ever had been violated like that? I mean that's what he's writing about his violation. Is there anything that's what yeah? No, no, no, it was it forced those baseball. I mean it's being violated You have to be held up by a group of boys and then they put your head in a toilet which Flustre not flushed.

1:23:17It's a violation. That's I don't mean it's a healing. I'm not bringing it back to me I'm just saying like that's a very fucking powerful thing. They were called swaries through the years Yeah, through the years I have combined meditation action and the iron into a single strength I believe that when the body is strong the mind thinks strong thoughts time spent away from the iron makes my mind to generate A wallow and a thick depression my body shuts down my mind the iron is the best antidepressant I have ever found There is no better way to fight weakness than with strength once the mind body have been awakened to their true potential It's impossible to turn back the iron never lies to you That's bad ass fucking perfect.

1:23:57That's about us. That's perfect. That's 100 % true. I feel that yeah That's you and body of that yeah, yeah, but you were bullied as a kid. Oh, yeah for sure. Yeah, yeah I was little so I didn't like it and I didn't also moved in to like new neighborhoods all the time I moved into new neighborhoods like three or four times when I was a kid So it was like it was so every time I was the new guy and I wasn't a big guy and dude was a fucking with me It's like team. I got to learn how to fight That was the the 100 % my motivation like I didn't I wasn't like a kid that looked for fights ever I was just terrified I was like okay, I'm tired of this.

1:24:33What's the solution? I got to learn martial arts Watch Bruce Lee movies. I'm like alright. I don't want to be like that guy Is that physically possible? What about because what we were talking about right before was like asking people things Because you've had so many fighters like you love MMA Yeah, and you and you your great commentator. I think you're a great analyst You break you really know so much about it you like it's fun to talk to you like to learn I think it's fun to learn but Do has you ever had a fighter that you know because you give you're not like you give honest takes on things when you're watching You're like this guy's ground game is not as strong or this guy striking is what it is like yeah You're honest about it has a fighter ever carried that like Comment and then come in here and been like you know, I don't know I saw once I saw once dinner Where he's hearing when he's like hey you said some stuff about me.

1:25:24Whatever. Just you know I was injured But during that fight I was never a nursing and knee injury. I know just see you are what I have to comment on what's happening. Yeah, I Would normal like I always give if someone's like you got an unusually bad Performance I will say I will I will try to like give this kind of qualify I never know what's going on. Yeah, if you see a guy the carrying a little bit of extra weight You'll be like sometimes you see a little bit of love handles like hmm. That's weird his camp It may be a strong. Yeah, there might have been something wrong. Yeah, and that's so fucking comment That's a it's literally no fighter at a world -class level goes into that octagon 100 % They just don't they just don't someone's got a fucked up elbow someone's next kind of weird someone doesn't want to wrestle They're knees bad their ankles fucked they got their ankle taped wise is ankle taped There's so many guys go in there with like real fucking injuries man They ever bring a hostage like any hostility to a comment made like no I've had conversations with guys But I over the years I've learned to express as much respect as I have You know, like sometimes you just comment again the moment like you will with friends like oh he's breaking He's breaking you know, but you have to be careful like how you say that when a guy is in a fight If the guy's gonna watch it and he knows he's breaking and you're just kind of compounding his awful moment Yeah, yeah guys break sure they do break, you know But it's not my place to say that necessarily it's it is my place to comment on the technical aspects of how the exchange is going Sure if I see them folding yeah, if I see certain characteristics where they're not engaging They're just moving in a defensive way and they seem to be looking for a way out Mm -hmm Greg Jackson's only that he sees fighters except that they're not gonna win 100 % then they're just fighting not to get knocked out Exactly, I think he was at the UFC Austin that like he was 40 and like he's been fighting for like Benille Darryush man That was a great guy.

1:27:28He thought though is a fucking assassin He has one loss to Gamrott and he has one loss to Ismail Makachev who's the world champion and By most people's eyes at least number one or number two pound for pound in the world. Oh, is that the what are you showing? So that guy Armand Sarukin he's a fucking assassin and Benille Darryush who's a very good fighter at this stage of his life is you know He's I don't know how old Benille is, but he I think he's close to 40. Yeah, that's gray hair That was a Nate that was the thing that stood out like man. Can you imagine doing this at 40? But he's also he's also a very elite fighter Benille Darryush is fucking elite.

1:28:20He's very good. Yeah But the UFC is a clean sport right now with you saw to gone and now What is it the new company called? Clean sport no so what so they still drug test to there is still a governing Body yeah, and if you're gonna be 40 years old you're fighting at a disadvantage So the advantage would be that you know more right which isn't advantage like old Captain America There's an advantage of knowing more, but it's not enough of an advantage to deal with people who also know a lot Yeah, yeah, and the young people there's an acceleration that comes from watching things on YouTube and watching things streaming The young people are way better than the people that are older now were when they were that young sure sure It's there's a there's a one drug free sport, but the guy the guy he fought it the guy you're saying sorry You can wasn't he like 22 or so.

1:29:16Yeah, he's world class and he was world class when he was 20 and the fight with mockachav was It was a very close decision. I don't remember if it was split it might have been unanimous But it was a super close decision You're not sure bring him up so Benille's only 34 no way why did you bring him up Tom Benille's only 34 I'm sorry Benille. It's your hair brother Benille's gonna be mad at me no, but he was a very good guy. He's a very very smart guy He's gonna take his walk over here. He's you with it. He's also elit at It was we were talking about the fight just saying something god damn. Why did I think he was 40?

1:29:52It was just I think that I think I think at that fight someone had said 40 and I was just like that is insane Oh, that's what it is like that's insane to be like if if that were true Yeah, imagine jumping in the outcome like at 40 with a guy who's 21 22 It's just but Randy cooked tour was world class when he was 40. Yeah, yeah heavyweights are different Randy could towards about us. His world class when he's 40 but also There was no you saw it back then There's a few things. How do you measure? How do you measure? I mean Alistar over him is an Alistar over him right with you saw it. This is not the same thing It's not what they did have any testing it is it fucking intelligence.

1:30:34He looks like he's not Yeah, he's Wait, we don't also fought that night. He's 42 could have been him. Oh, yeah, Clay Gweed The wild man. Yeah, you know talking about the guy got knocked out. No, no, I'm talking about this. That's where our conversation That's where yeah, no Clay is He's And you said he said joseph said something about him or something like that Well, it was I forget I forget I forget the origin I've been drinking I forget the origin How does it measure when you are a legit fan of someone and you kind of want them to win? Yeah, you can't well that was a real problem with being sharp when sharp would fight because I also knew that shot I know when someone has one foot in and one foot out because I had one foot in one foot out when I started doing standup I was still fighting when I was doing standup and I know when you're not 100 % focused That's a dangerous place to be because you can get over confident and you think that you're still at the same level that you were at if you're 100 % all -in but you're not You're not you're not you the the people that are 100 % all -in on big world champion are not also thinking about I'm gonna start this podcast and we're gonna go do a tour and do standup and now make it more money doing podcasts That I was doing fighting and you know now they're taking the the promotions away I had more money from at he shot had more money from ads on his shorts than he would get from his UFC paycheck So I knew he was one foot in one foot out So with that situation it's like you got to stop like I've seen this you got to stop But some guys you can't tell them to stop it's like they have this thing in their head and They want to figure out how to get to where they used to be one more time they think they can do it They don't understand up, but I'm a I'm a root for a guy though.

1:32:23I'd be like come on. I like that would come out That's Tony Ferguson. That's Tony Ferguson everybody roots for Tony everybody loves Yeah, everybody roots for Tony to go back to when he was the boogeyman because you know Elka Kui when That fucking guy he just seemed impenetrable It didn't matter if you heard him what you weren't gonna stop him He was coming forward and he has a series of losses in a row now right well It was really all from that one knee injury that he got backstage he tripped over wires and just No, no, it is that's how you got to mitigate risk. He was he was Elka Kui He was the interim lightweight champion.

1:33:01He was supposed to fight Kabeobner Numerga Mattov in Madison Square Garden And he tripped over wires in the promo leading up to the show He was doing one of those you know ESPN things wherever and there was some wires on the ground He didn't seem and he tripped on him and he wrecked his knee that wrecked his knee tore it apart Had to have surgery that would be that part would piss me off so much. Let's get that's the way Yeah, that's how it happened and then he comes back or like don't know basketball beats Anthony Pettis That would bother me less are you 100 % now on the knee? Yes in the arm now Real is the opposite of what they tell you you jerk off me when they don't jerk off last time You fucking psycho you don't fucking when they when you're in the hospital.

1:33:47They point to your arm They go good volley they go. This is not gonna be a problem This is gonna be a problem and you're like, okay, cuz you think oh now your knees 100 % 100 % But I have nerve damage in my arm so it might never ever ever be where it was damn So where's it at now? Well, it's just that I for life. It's fine like fun like you know I can do anything yeah, so with like heavy like I don't know if I'll ever be able to lift anything heavy again Because it's honest as see external rotation It's it really is bad But even when you're like have a heavy weight in your hand well first of all I get wrist collapse at a certain weight So like this handle be fine and at a certain weight this list just it'll collapse You know and then you feel things all in the elbow area with heavy weight so I can I can I don't know if I'll ever I'm not that I need to it's the thing it's like you go.

1:34:44I don't need to be a power lifter Right, but it's still kind of yeah, it sucks when you're in there and you're like oh my my whole arm has like these Crazy vibrations and pains going on with heavy weight. So you just have to like shift what you do Yeah, that's why I stopped doing jujitsu for a whole year I had I started getting these nerve pains in my fingers If you push if you push on my forearm my whole hand will go numb what yeah They took a nerve thing is super they took it out of here. You know, I have no nerve here what yeah I've none they took it out and they put it in here. Do you mean tendon?

1:35:18No, it took the nerve out So what happened to your nerve out? They took the nerve because yeah, it's it was like it was a state of the art surgery at the time So when the guy did it I was like how many of these have you done he goes one? He goes because you have two nerves and two muscles here to let you pronate so they take it out Explain what was happening that the fingers the the last fingers were coming back This is what I like watch they would go It was It was The injuries isn't December and in like in like March They do a nerve test and they go everything is not firing like are you how are you functioning?

1:35:59And I'm like yeah, you know and there were things that were notable like if I went to pick something up you might not notice Right, but I would just like grab it and then grab like my hand didn't open all the way So if you go like go like this I would go like this with my healthy hand and I would go like this Oh, that was the most I could do and they told me they go if you wait a year Do you wait a week a year and the nerve doesn't? Fire and reconnect on its own your body consumes a nodules It just consumes them. It just is like you've ever seen somebody who has like a hand that just doesn't work anymore That's it.

1:36:34It's got a lot of people. That's that Oh my god, so they go if you elect to just wait it out just know that where you are could be just where you are forever Oh shit, and so when he told me that he's like or I could do this surgery that's like It's it was actually a Brazilian surgeon who came up with this idea like this process the surgery and he goes it works You know 100 % confident in it to host her surgery And Would it start to hurt you turn your fucking card over the red More neat, but then he did it and dude like you know I can yeah, I go all the way Yeah, and I can pick things up, but there's things where so you'll think you would think it's strength But it's not strength.

1:37:26It's the nerve firing like if I pick up something heavy I got pick it up and with my right arm pull it up and my left arm is here and you go Oh, I guess you're just not strong. It's not strength. It's that the nerve isn't firing It's just not setting to sick. Tell it to go it won't tell it to go all the way. Wow dude in the lone Laws in my career where I got TKO'd I got hit with a left hook and I could hit with a left hook and my legs shut off Totally shut off. It's the weirdest sensation of all time. Wow. I got hit with this hook Hit my arm at chin and my legs just stop working just stop working.

1:37:59I'm conscious My legs just stopped working. They just completely collapsed and so the referee starts counting one two and I'm like whoa Totally new experience all my years of competing never had that I ever had that so then I stand up But I'm like these things are working right and then this dude's like throwing punches at me and they stopped the fight but it was a It was a fascinating experience because it was like It's not about heart and will it's about they just stop working having you had Zach better on before yeah, and he just did that thing where you know He's a elite elite ultra marathon runner.

1:38:36Yeah, and he was out on one of these like hundred miles and At like 80 miles. He was like I felt sick. I had to lay down. I tried to rest he posted about it You know and he's like my my legs They just shut down so he's like I just had to at a certain point He just goes I'm tapping out of this one and it wasn't like you know It's different than obviously getting hit but his body just was like that's enough. That's it. It's just like that's enough Not happy. Yeah, that's kind of like this is the wildest thing about these people that are pushing themselves like Zach Bitters does or David Goggins does is that like Inevitably they're gonna get damaged that body David has to No, he's not bad.

1:39:17He shared it. He shared it. He said me videos of his leg where he takes his leg and he compresses his fingers around it And the edema around his shin is so thick that his fingers are embedded in his shin He had his knee severed what and and then reconnected he has no cartilage. He's bone on bone. What's that gonna be like it's Doctor's it's he's gonna get replacements 100 % his doctor looked at his knee said I can't believe you can fucking walk on this never mind run thousands of miles thousands. Yeah, that's his leg That's a demon on his leg that's from him just putting his fingers on his leg and that's after one of multiple surgeries He's had what is a demon if you don't mind me asking it's the swelling.

1:40:02It's like all this like Fluid it's it's basically just Rift chest and torn me while he's doing it. I don't get bitch Bro, he's an animal when he came to my podcast. He got there early when I walked in he was already doing chin -ups Yeah, when I first met him we went I went into the gym, you know the podcast starts it whatever it started out of that I get there and it comes like I Don't want to put it. I meet his wife. I meet some, you know I go back and he's back there doing chin -ups with a shirt off It's like there's no reason to rest why my resting right here is a whole full gym Can I use this gym?

1:40:37Let's go Go out there. He's doing chin -ups. He's crazy. What a great way to maximize your time Yeah, he's he's just sit there like, you know, I guess we're early, you know What do you do? There's a gym right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's get some ice the most toast water Look at his toes. No, no, the water. I want to scream. No, Tom That's Goggins toe eat it. That's for running He ran some insane amount of 100 miles in like a short period of time. Can I tell you the most human thing about him is that he He reads negative comments Like when you see that he gets record some he gets upset about them.

1:41:14He listens to them when he runs That's where I connect with the guy where I go I go Like I got nothing but inspiration Gotta let that go there's people are gonna hate on every fucking thing that has ever existed And it's not an honest perspective. It's flavored by their own inadequacy It's got a big part of it is flavored by their own fucking disastrous life Is what I listen to when I if I'm hungover I go to the gym I throw on David Goggins They got a thing on him. Oh, yeah, I'm gonna fucking throw one of those then too One this is the way this one's a six. I think I six no six row I like Tommy Charmere on his Tommy Turmion in them too.

1:41:57Yeah, the roads are good. They're very tasty And I don't take as many of them in as I do with the Zins I'll take those any day over people fucking dipping So sexy you're wrong you're wrong. You're my friend Perry. He was a the stunt coordinator on fear factor. Yeah, he was a He was stunt coordinator on so many movies that back in the day, you know, we're talking about like the early 2000s And it for him like deep into the 90s and probably the 80s You weren't Encourage to be spitting on set. Yeah, you had got it. So he would just swallow it So Perry got accustomed to swallowing his own tobacco just like that's a fucking man Is a shot a job John Krunk got it.

1:42:40He had dip in his like slid into first cut his whole lip up And he was like on that side he took it all out and pushed the other side Good which one is this I'm gonna take some media. They're good. This is a experiment. All right. What is this month? You're doing would you just need it some time off? Why didn't you just do it on October like we were supposed to do it? Yeah, because we never do who you're doing it? We don't do it myself or do it are we doing it by yourself. Yeah, this year we didn't do it. I didn't I'm just doing it to do it I did it this year. Congratulations. I did it by myself.

1:43:12No weed nothing. No, come on I'm not saying that's not so good. No, no, no, I did October without weed and then I started doing weed No, it's like we'd fucking best it really is the past. I'm doing no weed no coffee weed is essentially steroids for comedy Weed is great. Right it is or it's a help you hurts you. I I heard you if you're like I don't feel like I think I think we Is the at its best? Yeah? When you get off stage and you take a couple hits it almost just goes hey man, we're good Yeah, like let's get in bed watch a documentary on tarp and physical sit on it and you're like Yeah, it's the coolest man.

1:43:51Oh, I never finished telling you this so I say say do what do you want after your set at the Wilbur? And I was like I'm cool Sometimes after I get off I like glasses scotch and I finished the last time I was like thank you Goodnight, and I took one step down and she just hands me a glass of scotch Oh, I was like I've never been treated like this in my life. That's it was so fucking fucking awful Yeah, a nice glass of scotch after you just did what you need to do Yeah, I was thinking about you in the shower this morning. Oh really? Yeah, oh boy. Oh boy. Oh boy Well, position. Oh, just I was watching my armpits and I thought oh normal.

1:44:29Oh, yeah I Know you wanted me I tell you why sometimes I think about everyone to watch my armpits. Yes I'm loved here the amount of do you know what I put on no no I do think about you when I put on do you know I lost enough weight that I have an armpit again Before I got no, it was just it was just fat. You couldn't feel the tendons in your in your pack in your bag So like it's just a fool. It's not like an armpit Yeah, it's now you're like oh he's gonna be jealous. No, no, no, no, I was thinking I'm a little buzz while share it but I was thinking how cool is it that you've had moments in your career Where everyone's like fucking right that guy off?

1:45:11You're killing it and you kill it and then you and then you start thinking that's doing armpits But no no armpits thought of our and then I thought of our I've been thinking about our y 'all day because of what happened last night Okay, and so and I thought I You know with what happened last night. I thought I Love that I love that there's forgiveness in this world And I love that he's got a I love that he's killing it right now people that don't want to forgive people that are actively trying to be better people are bad people. Yes. Yes. There's a there's a negative aspect to this non -forgiveness mindset that is Inescapable it's not good for the person that perpetuates it It's definitely not good for the people that receive it if you have this fear that you'll be cast out of the kingdom Forever for a thing that you deeply regret and you might have done in deras You might have done for whatever fucking reason, but you realize as a human being How could I have done that if you're not willing to say I get it?

1:46:13We're all human and I believe your intention. Give me a hug. Let's work this out if you can't do that You're the problem the problem is you are the problem forgiving mindset The least charitable Perspective on every person you run into because you think that somehow or another that elevates you but it doesn't They make you stick to this mystery when Kevin Hart was like trying to be nice about gaze and they're like well Where was that then I'm like he's being nice and this is your moment to shit on them also Kevin Hart was trying to be famous Yeah, and trying to get laughs trying to get laughs and when you try to get laughs You will say things you don't believe but you think will be effective and it's a sign of a comedian.

1:46:56It's not that good yet It's a normal thing that we all did yeah, we all and still do I watch people fucking pussy's I watch people take wild cancers at the mother's Like wild chances and I know the audience sometimes goes why why does he care about that? And you know it's his thing in his head. He's trying to find something. Yeah, well I think the audience the mother ship is more aware of that than most clubs because we talk about it so much that the process of Creating a bit is sometimes you have to trot it out there and while you're saying it you're freeballing and you might go down The wrong path and get committed to it.

1:47:34Yeah, and then you like stuck on a route. Yeah, I just like well Let me try to get out of this but that's how new bits are created. Yeah, there's new bits. They get created because of that That's why people push yourself into it. Yeah, see somebody like that guy's not good. He's trying something Yeah Infuriated me Infuriated me about Louis CK's leak set Oh After him I'm like, are you Flying to the normies about the process. It's also one of those things where I remember when that happened and you're like We should not lose this list of names I've never lost that list of names Readers, but stand up where you like it's so obvious by the way that this is a pop -in We're like I'm working this shit.

1:48:23It's a workout. He hasn't done stand up in 10 months It's so crazy. No stand up at 10 months and every one of those premises had promised Also, yeah, they were good every related to people when they were like what's going on? I would tell they laugh at me retelling that joke It's literally like a farmer you need literally like a farmer being criticized for not having a crop to take the market right after he plans to see Yeah, yeah, he might be your fucking tomatoes He he might be the most fun person to watch work out period to like he He's so he's dude. He's so good at it. And he just takes he takes chances and he goes for it And he and the thing is he actually sits in suffering More than other comics like what meaning like if it starts to not work so many people bail out like that and he'll sit in the suffering But you know we were talking about this last night at the club that there is a giant group of fans that want to see that happen Yeah, we're talking about guys like guys are coming up to Duncan and saying hey, I love how you change that Yeah, now you're like oh shit now you've watched me multiple times do this thing But they like the pro like I like music.

1:49:38I can't play music. I can't play anything But I love watching live music. Yeah, I love watching people perform and if there was a way that I can go watch them Develop live songs Defel of them like if I knew that like Gary Clark Jr Is gonna start out with like this sort of melody and put it together in front of crowds than one day It's gonna be on Spotify. Yeah, but for now. I'm getting a watch it happen. Yeah, that's comedy fans now Yes, that is comedy fans. What percentage though in it in a room 37 no 37 I say like less than a mother ship less than half The mother ship that are wanting to watch that I bet at the mother ship There's a lot more than most because I bet at the mother ship there's they've at least listen to one Conversation between comedians, but I've just seen the standup set of times see how it's right lighter that is a little bitch What up?

1:50:29I'm a leader to your family. I need to get it later. Someone make a lighter that looks like an eagle What are you got? Me eagle lighter for my cigarettes? Yeah, this is the best Best guy ever with a chopper on it. It's great. Yeah, shout out to Cleaver I'm the only time I'd ever flex a fucking police hook me up one of those two again. I showed you this yesterday Yeah, love Florida, Manica. I love to and allusion bull This is the best cigar you'll ever have in your fucking life really that cigar is next fucking level This is next boy who cried wolf personified. No, no, it's the way I live life.

1:51:08I tell you how I feel you tell me you can do the splits Buddy, I did a marathon You know how hard it was to bite my tongue when you show me David Goggins foot and I was like that's what we do You should have just said it. That's what we do Joe. You did a marathon. What do you want? I know the cutter? It's way in for a bird Joe What part of my shoulders do you like? They're very firm. They also they they look like a guy who could pick up some heavy shit I'm talking about in the green room when you got on stage I was like damn look at birds fucking shoulders. You got traps. You got shoulders. You look jacked You remember that one day we did so broctober it went back there and Everybody's like how much can you bench?

1:51:46That was one of those how much of your bench things and we put two 25 on the bar and No one could bench it But I just saw you benching at the other day and how many did you do? I mean reps ten reps. By the way The fruit progress like to be clear you got pinned The first time I got a pin pinned on one pin down. I remember we all I don't I don't bench press and when I did I was like this is like really stupid, but we were drunk. I love it. I think I did 12 or 13 But I can do 15 now Every now and then I try it you know I'm gonna blow out my packs trying to do 15 to do it blow them out If you do I'll do 20 You guys love this about you.

1:52:27We'll take it to the I love this about you. You don't I love that you own a little territory in my head You don't love it. I do you don't I do you think you love it You love it until we're actually engaged in competition And it's an anxiety when you get up to piss in the middle of the night. I know you think about it But for real what were you doing so I could do double them now I double them with pushups No, that's ridiculous couldn't I definitely could you do double them in batch? No, you do 30 reps? No, 30s top no It's a lot of dogs of no no my friend can't handle it at 15 I'm struggling at 15 every struggling But I did when I did when I did with you guys I had no idea what if I could even do it I literally hadn't benched in forever.

1:53:08Yeah, all I do is kettlebells the heaviest way to do is 70 pounds Hey, would you ever think about posting when you program for your workout? I would love to know what you do You ever post a list? Yeah, yeah, I do circuits, but I'm I think there's a real value to doing like There's a bunch of exercises that are standards like Straight leg dead lifts Clean and press there's these things are start with swings. You do like I start with pushups and body weight squats and start with cold plunge Every workout is three minutes 34 degrees boom go from there 20 body weight squats 20 pushups 20 body weight squats 20 pushups you do two sets in a row So that you get two sets of legs two sets of pushups So you get warm up then you do the the final three you get to a hundred pushups hundred body weight squats Then it's kettlebells and if I'm on a regular schedule it's 70 pounds So I go to 70 pounds 70 pounds 10 swings each arm Three sets 10 presses each arm three sets 10 windmills each arm Three sets 10 renegade rows each arm Renegade rows with 70 pounds at the end of that is rough Fallen you go to the sled then you go to the sled.

1:54:24Oh, it's less than it's the torque sled pushing it You're pushing it about 35 meters and then you're pushing it and you pulling it back and we do that We'll do that for three sets you work on someone now It's get it I just do it in my head and then I have the comics good do it with me Oh, I've been there for those so then we go from there to Tabata's on the heavy bag Tabata's are 20 seconds sprint followed by 10 second rest So we do that and we blast out the end of the workout we put the rock through this yeah And the end the end of the workout you quit no the rock is fucking he was cool man. He's humble He didn't he's not a kettlebell guy.

1:55:04He had never done cold plunge before before he did it with us What yeah never done it so he is super humble He was it he there was no guys built like a fucking superhero, right? But I think he's also doing a lot of stuff to increase like the aesthetics Yeah, you know, so you do a lot of machines if you look at his iron paradise that insane Jimmy I set up Yes, by the way American flag fucking prominently displayed when you look at that setup that setup is a setup It's perfect for a guy wants to look at a superhero in a movie. It's perfect Yeah, but I'm concerned with like functional strength. I'm concerned with like I want to be able to move my body like an Athlete as long as I can and so we did a bunch of like wild shit that he had never done before really yeah Windmills are hard, man.

1:55:53Those are really hard. It's hard, you know But I've been doing that whole routine for so long that my body is like just fucking You pretty much at that every morning is that you're is that roughly where you're at? That's one workout that I do twice a week. You know, you know a guy like me would love to Come work out. No, but I'd love to get a morning and I buddy. Oh, I gotta fly that at eight. That's cool. I texted you I can't five am work. I texted Sorry, no fucking idea I'll shoot my testosterone at fucking 430. Let's do it. No 330 you wanted to get a couple hours in it We're really gets in your system.

1:56:30I love getting information like that and then we'll co plunge first Cold plunge first was dark out with your big cock you'll hear Not that big it's right buddy. I hate the video you showed up your yourself getting the cold plunge of the day I had to stop myself for going is anyone looking at his cock Only Bert only Bert a couple of checks. They call me a hog watcher If you have a big cock coming to know there's something fun about getting in that cold when it's raining out Oh 32 when you got in that video no 21 21 outside and 34 inside how much do you think it's worse? What like like what what no I'm getting the cold when it when it's cold out No, it feels like you want to relief from something.

1:57:14No, no, no, it's so much better after the sauna Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, but it doesn't matter if it's hot out once you get in it's still fucking so cold Do you do box breathing? I just breathe. I mean really accustomed to being in there now. I love so I can just sort of It's after those first 20 seconds then it's like I just shut up. Unless you use the blue cube the blue cube There's an option to have it like a raging river and you never get what's called a thermal barrier Purple how yeah, yeah, thermal barrier you realize how in the weeds you are about cold plunging Yeah, I'm in the weeds if you want to be a guy who torches yourself Blue cube is the way to go.

1:57:49I'd love to open up rogue It's YouTube on his computer just see what it's suggesting to him. I can't wait till the North Korea fine Fucking fine, but the amount of guns I research And the amount of animal attacks Yeah, the polar punch is is badass But I the do you do the light thing? Yeah, do that red light therapy. I do that in the head. Yeah, I got it What's that? I got a great? Well one of things is happening is as you get older your face Your skin starts to get thinner because you have a lack of collagen and you start looking like you like Looks sick even feel good. Yeah, your skin has more laxity in the one and a half months that I've been using it my skin looks better What is it?

1:58:35What is it? What is it? It's red light therapy. What is it just like? We could we could talk about it, but I don't know what I'm saying. So I'd be It shoots light at you. Yeah, it's it it helps your body It helps you Rehabilitate from injuries. There's a lot of there's a lot of things I'm not the guy to do you still But I do every day Yeah, you have a bear yeah, you have one. Yeah, I want to do this And I have a flotation tank. I don't know which one is better for you because both of them are really good for you The flotation tank is there's a reset that I think you can achieve from that It's just like doing psychedelics without any of the weird Fuckery of recovering and coming back to normal you get out of there and you're fine.

1:59:22You're out It's if you could if you could take what you get from a sensory deprivation tank in a pill with With just as a drug everybody would take it. It's called Xanax. No It's the best I bet Xanax is awesome It's great. I think what that is is the opposite that's like instead of like pretending your house isn't wrecked Check out that's like going in your house and examining all the cracks in your foundation I had to jack off In a flotation tank whatever shout out to Kooja anyway, you jacked off and No, I didn't jack off in there fucking things. It's no joke. I feel like he did. I probably did Tom You jerk off I took off a lot How much I'll try to jerk off once every day?

2:00:09Now Leon's on testosterone to not supposed to share that you did she won't let you just went she just went secret time She just went to a secret time for 11 million people good luck Careful Nope, nope, nope, no because I like what ways to well is doing I do yeah They're awesome and they got her on testosterone progesterone and I'll share that because I think Really yeah Cowboys man after your apologies after your apologies my wife's friend My leg and my wife's friend is my wife's friend is English my leg go my wife's friend is English about you go ahead my wife's friend is English and she got on testosterone and she she's telling my wife.

2:00:52I was I feel like a bloke She was English lady. She was I feel like a bloke Leanne leanne wants to fuck all the time and I'm telling you it's ways to wellness God bless ways to well She's on progesterone in testosterone. I told it to Shane Tora Shane Gillis and he fucking could not stop making fun of it in the most hilarious way he's fucking so good, but it's changed our relationship. We're fucking nonstop I don't need I can't even I don't want to remember how I say noise again What What throw up noise? Oh no, oh what my land I just joking no if you saw us fuck I think I would jagger off in the corner I don't think you would what I do you'd be mad about what I get you thinking about you'd be that same face whether you Like open your eyes, but she's getting confused.

2:01:45What's your favorite position? What's very position? Bert? Tell you a question. I thought you're gonna say pegged. I'm so glad you didn't say pegged. No I like I like from behind. Yeah, it's really fucking that's a good one. I never was in the ass That's a good one. I was never in the ass. It is a real category. Yeah, you were never in the asses No, I was a tick guy and I'm still a tick guy, but it's funny. I look at a rass and it's it's like it's perfect It's not like sell your lady. Yeah, and it's just a big ass. It's a big Cellulady Cellulady, but it's just a Cellulady That sounds like it should be a Cellulady That should be a fucking cool band like pussy riot Cellulady By like I like a doggy style's fucking hot.

2:02:29It's so fucking hot And I like and I don't know if it's testosterone, but she's check she's like Checked off barriers that were previously in our relationship. But fucking no, no, no, we have an anal sex Congratulations, we have an anal sex. Do you want it? Yeah Yeah, obviously Hans Kim on No, no, you're your girls podcast Kill Tom kill Laura kill Laura. Yeah, yeah, Laura come first date. Yeah, yeah, you said what I don't know buddy Hans cam, and what's the podcast called first date first date he had a really funny I'm confident. Yeah, Hans. Yeah, I'm sorry. Lauren Compton. You guys sure Yeah, he said I don't want to I do want to have it only so I know where I stand with you that you'll let me do dirty shit to you Or something like that Some similar, but it's like sounds like a guy who shouldn't be allowed to have a gun Sing where I stand I fucked it up.

2:03:33Sorry Hans. I fucked it up, but it was very funny. Yeah, I was very funny I can't stop thinking about I know this is a weird transition, but that's six hour MPX that Terran has Good gun. I want to get one of this. What's this? I get you one really? Yeah, where are we telling us things? We can't stop talking about I just kept thinking about I keep thinking about like I've been thinking about that gun for two years Can I tell you what I can? Can't tell you what I stopped him. Yeah, did you mention the snoop? You knew me. I got a piece. That's what you wanted to know. I have to know. Oh my gosh. No, but I'll tell you what you mother fuck I'll tell you why though.

2:04:04You didn't bring my name up. I'll tell you why what yes Compton it wasn't a He didn't want to own up to you. No, it wasn't a long conversation. Oh, okay, and it wasn't like it wasn't settling in to talk It was the first time I met him and then I for three seconds. Yeah, I thought that was it And at the end of the night when I went in there It was I had a major hesitation about walking into his dressing room With his bodyguards and everything around Papa, you mean Papa and I just went into say it and big wall I just went into say it was fun to be on the show with you and I thought it was that and he asked for a pick It was very very fast.

2:04:42It wasn't long. I went to see Danny Brown If I if I had stayed to talk if he was like pull up a seat. Yeah, it would have been something I want to see Danny Brown and perhaps just not my genre like it is yours He's cool. We become friendly Danny's fantastic. I'm Simon's in that's his number one guy really What that's time. It's like date. I you what do you mean? I was sure and we're having a conversation Oh cool. What's it? What about the weather? I don't know whatever and I look over at Daniel's like Really? Yeah, really he's trying to be cool. Yeah, I was trying to navigate The conversation yeah without looking like you realize I would have been like if you had worked with him for a year I would have walked in and be like I know Tom Sgrove I just I was so I saw who I am.

2:05:21Yeah, but I was I mean here's the thing you say that like because you were in my mind And the fact that you guys worked together was a natural thing to bring up But it was also I think when you're in sometimes in the situations You're like when's the time to say this you're kind of nervous about how you say it And you're looking for the end to say it So if I if I talk to him for longer it would have been a normal thing to bring up cheers. I love drinking with you I'm Powery So fucking cute the cutest thing I've ever seen I think we should so fucking cute I just swallow his face. Hey Joe. Can I ask you a question?

2:06:03So when you watch Conor McGregor and ADS fight did you want one of them to win? No Okay, really For real I want to start I want the main problem I had during commentary was sharp That was the only problem I really ever had yeah You know, I love I love Donald cowboy soroni. I fucking love that dude. I love him I wish there was more men like that in this world. I love him to death But when he's fighting Conor McGregor I can't have a favorite. I just have to let it happen. This guys of all They're all official. That's impossible. You know I do it. I do it I swear to god I do it even when Sean Strickland fought Israel out of Sony is my friend.

2:06:44I love it I love it. Yeah, he's a shit. He's the mother fucker. He defended me with a whole n -word video came out Yeah, dude. I made made me tear up. Yeah, I love this by the way as a personal favorite 100 % as a human being He's one of my favorite people that I've ever met. He's an extraordinary human being so fun But when he fought Sean Strickland, I you know, I have to be neutral. I have to be like wow The job you can't be like it's the job But even that was during that was during fight companion. That was during fight companion. Oh right Yeah, so that was I wasn't even working. I was just hanging out here watching the fight I still have to be neutral.

2:07:20I have to be I have to have a neutral mindset Well, I don't like a fight. I think no no no no no no when when people are fighting That's just like from my own mind. I don't allow my mind to go into like this avenue where I want someone to win And someone lose because you'll get a bias perspective and I know I've been I've been guilty of that in the past What I when I was in the early days of my commentary and I realized that's a flaw. It's a flaw like I could have pre Like I have friends that fight and I love them to death and I want them to win But if they don't win, I can't be attached to that.

2:07:53I have to be attached as a person who's Appreciating the sport. I'll check in on them. How you doing you alright? Yeah, you know, but the reality of what they're doing is I have to be a Clear objective viewer of the transaction. That's the same winning the exchange. I think what I'm here in MMA commentary I definitely want we were saying when I hear like football or sports commentary I want to hear the Yankees brought. I want to hear the go come on. You can't let that out Yeah, but the thing is there's a giant difference between a sport and a fight right A spite a fight you're exposing a man's soul and you got to be respectful of that You're a sport you're exposing everything about what he's capable of right?

2:08:33He's literally this is a This is a they're fighting to the death. They're just not letting them finish it. That's what that is That's true. That's true. I think by the way that Kirk Kirk Street does that so well. What he's an Ohio State graduate Like he played there and he commentates on all the biggest games and he can comment on Ohio State game and be neutral In my opinion. Yes, oh see I want somebody I would turn the Redsons games on mute and let the radio Like the hometown radio guys. Yeah, I think he's very good at it. Yeah, sweet sweet my favorite Nate Diaz clip ever ever is the coolest thing especially if you're a been bullied Do you ever see Nate Diaz when they go hey, we ever bullied as a kid And he just looks and he goes no I had a big brother And you're like in your heart swells you go fuck Yes, brother was nick Nick fucking Diaz Nick Diaz one of the all -time greats I asked this You You never that never happened to you and I had a big brother man Fox is big brother yeah, his big brother is a savage savage the real legit savage I remember when when Nick Diaz fought Robbie Lawler Robbie Lawler was the man He was like 20 years old.

2:09:49He was an assassin just smashing people and Nick Diaz went into the octagon and as he walked into the octagon he was like stomping on the floor What part of California's you front again? Stockton. He's serious. Yeah, for a second the worst and he was yelling out Stockton Stockton motherfucker stockton. I love it. I was like what is going on here? Yeah, I was confused like as a commentator I'm like what's happening here? He's like Stockton motherfucker stockton. I can't believe I forgot Stockton. Yeah You're the one that brought it up the only reason I know today. Okay. Oh, I've had his alcohol.

2:10:26Really? Yeah, you wait I've got a rib eye. I was up late at nine. I wrote late at night till four in the morning. Oh, fuck Got up got in the cold Go back to the story stocked him other fuckers. Yeah, he yells out stocked him other fuckers stocked it And you see Robbie Lawler going what? I don't know what that means and when we thought Nick could beat him like we knew Nick was a jiu jitsu guy But he beat him with boxing he knocked him out. He knocked out Robbie Lawler when he hit him on the right hook and Robbie dropped like face plans And we're like what it was nonsense like no way somebody bullied ruthless Robbie Lawler Oh, look at that.

2:11:05He just talked I mean I mean Robbie was an animal Robbie was throwing back But Nick was just he got to understand that that talking shit Is a 100 % legit psychological tactic. Yeah, yeah, yeah, if fucks with your mind and impedes your performance 100 % it's a brilliant move. It's in all sports too. Well high level sports. It is and in fighting I think it's he did it better than anybody in the beginning nobody did it better in fight He would talk someone shit to them Frank Shamrock said that he couldn't believe it was happening to him Because when Nick go to Nick Diaz versus Frank Shamrock. I want to see it too Okay, is this one it makes one that flicked off the cameras right?

2:11:47Yeah, I was that that fight. I'm the one too Yeah, but that this is Nick was better All due respect to Nate Nate will tell you that Nick is better than Nate Nick was we killed Nate Nick was one of the oh man. I thought he stopped fighting because he wouldn't get tested. No, no, no, no, no Nobody got killed because of weed. I thought he stopped fighting because he's like I'm not cleaning Nick. Yeah, no, no There's no testing now in the UFC now. He's just had some real injuries man Like if you you got to go to Nick Diaz like right there boom face plant You got to go to Nick Diaz in strike force If you want to see Nick Diaz at the elite of the elite level where you achieved like real true greatness When by the time he got to the UFC, he was still great.

2:12:29He went and fought go me and pride. He was still great in strike for An elite athlete in combat sports has a small window of time where they can perform at their best level And when Nick Diaz was in strike force when he's a champ he was fucking everybody up He would just walk you down and beat your ass And if you went to the ground he would fucking strangle you 100 % of the time he beat everybody's asses God damn it The thing is like he would let guys take him down like shut up. You can't knock me out Like you never knocked him out no one knocked him out. He always survived He always figured out a way to turn into a grappling exchange and then slowly but surely he would beat you out Nick Diaz swam from Alcatraz that's the gangster thing five Times really five the mainline great white shark five time might be more Nick I'm sorry if it's more since then it's probably more since then he beat everybody down Beat everybody down eventually you just withered and he never got tired and he just kept put it on you And at the end of the fight it was always like this He was basically hitting a fucking punching bag a person who couldn't believe the amount of pressure The Nick Diaz put on them just beating the fuck out of them with not even breathing heavy Not stop.

2:13:47He did not stop and you're standing on top and like what that's it. That's over I want you to go to Nick Diaz versus Frank Shamrock Because Frank Shamrock was a legend. He was a UFC champion He was the first complete mixed martial artist. He could wrestle. He could submit you He could do anything and Nick Diaz the entire time was like what bitch what bitch? What are you gonna do bitch? He was just constantly talking to him and Frank was like I couldn't believe he was talking to me Hey, don't talk right now always Give me some volume see if you can hear it With this boy you need these kind of characters martial arts I think they both like talking Frank's trying to focus right now though you can tell What you think that straight right hand of the body and the thing is he's just touching you He's hitting you with like 50 % 60 % But he's he's so relaxed look how relaxed his style is He's not getting tired look how easy he's hitting him why because he's just wearing him out He's cooking his food and he's holding back.

2:14:58Yeah. Oh, no, Nick is 100 % holding back look how he's punching him He's not punching him full force at all He's just trying to like slowly. Yeah So the thing is without where if you can fight at that style where you just 50 % in guys You don't get tired and if you can do 20 punches at 50 % it's almost as good as a 50 punches at 100 % yeah Or not or rather 10 punches at 100 % it's like if you go cut it in half The volume also keeps you from being able to take a good breath. All right The guys on you all the time you never get a breather Frank's not getting any breathers And Nick's not tired look he's just piecing him look even that kick.

2:15:40There's no real power in it Everything is just touching you touching until he starts to really see you will and look at him Look at him look at his stomach look at his stomach. There's no breathing heavy at all He's probably at 120 beats a minute right now That's insane. This is a fucking guy runs triathlon's look at it so he can stand in front of you And you are fucking cooked so he's cooking his chicken right now He's got his chicken on the fire right now. Oh, damn He's cooking chicken breasts He's just piecing them up and look not tired not not exhausted not hitting him that there's a That's a dig first dig wow that right hand of the body he dug into so right now He's a hundred percent going now he's going after see the difference Yeah, like these punches have a lot more fury behind the right because he's ending the fight He's he's more Frank's already at 180 beats a minute He's wilting and he's beating the fuck out of them and then he helps them up because your legend get up He said that your legend get up And he holds his hand up Does that's how he feels about that's legitimately how he feels about him Is there anyone better than Diaz brothers?

2:16:52Yeah brothers. No, the brothers man that legend look There's a lot of like are they better than Peyton Manning and Archie man or those you know, I'm ending Yeah, of course sports are saying yeah, like the brothers now Peyton any liar better I don't know man world titles. Yeah, it's multiple rings. Yeah, I don't know Yeah, yeah, Nate's biggest win. That's his big win. You said though that that elite guys when they get in there They go to late they do the most of the fight at like 60 70 percent right unless like Matt It's one of the reasons one of the max hollow is top sparring um max decided at one point in time that he's spotted enough he understands it and just as drills and trains and does A bunch of strength and conditioning work and when he goes into a fight.

2:17:40He hasn't been hit a long time. Mm -hmm And that's his philosophy but he's also a world champion at the top of you know There's a top five pound for pound max hallway should be in there. Yeah, he's one of the greatest of all time That's a thing like if you're amateur you always start going like I'm going 100 percent dude Yeah, like you know you step in yeah, whether you're doing jiu -jitsu or you're boxing or something You're just like I'm gonna go all out and then you realize this this is not sustainable. Mm -hmm Yeah, and but those elite guys are like oh you gotta make this Well, that's Nick Diaz was the best at that because you understood endurance from the perspective of someone who's swam from Alcatraz Someone to just try Atholons when you do try Atholons your fucking swimming you're running and you're biking There's three different things you're doing all of them are exhausting at any one of them when it's over it should be over Yeah, like wow what a workout, but then you got another one and then after that you got another one Where does he take the he takes a tourist boat out there and it's like I'll catch up with your guy No, no, no, no, they do that specifically endurance athletes do it they swim back from Alcatraz If you don't make it to the shore you're dead and there's also great whites.

2:18:44They've nest out there They nest San Francisco that that area out there is famous You can't No, you're dead. That's like what are you doing? There's like a follow -boat kind of kind of like I don't even know how they did it They did okay Um either way he made it all the way five times I'm not gonna follow up. I'm gonna help you. How far are you doing when you do that? I just say it's more than a mile. No, no, it's I think it's if I'm not mistaken Well the current's always yeah, they do they time it out with a current. They don't they don't go with like But the distance just the distance has the crow flies.

2:19:20What's the distance? Trin Alcatraz in the sky to be at least two miles No, yeah, there is a lot at least at least a mile I have done Alcatraz five times so during the Conor Gregor Hafele dos Anjos anyway, during one of the fights I said they did it twice and he corrected me He corrected me. He said he did it five times. How far he's to this but this was by the way 2016 he's probably done it five times since then. Yeah, he's a fucking psycho This is a story like I remember how hot this story was what's the distance Trin Alcatraz? It's gotta be at least I'm just telling you on marathon on triophilons It's gotta be a mile.

2:19:57Yeah, it's more than a mile. It's I know it is But I'm just saying yeah to be safe. It's over a fucking mile. Whatever like like what happened with the cane story Can you have a last quest? He hasn't been convicted and um 1 .25 1 .25 miles. Okay, um long swim. It's a long swim. Can't has not been convicted. He's still locked up No, he's free. They they released him on bail Can I ask you to pause for a second is came balasque as a kid the guy in Hawaii whose son? No, he's a guy in northern California whose son was molested by someone who was running the daycare same same thing. I thought it was why he's from a K .A He's one of the greatest heavyweights of all time in his prime.

2:20:41Maybe the best And he found out that his son had been molested by a daycare worker and he went after that guy and drove his car in a rage and shot a gun at him and They arrested him either kept him in jail for a long time and they finally let him out on bond and now he's coaching at a K .A. And I don't know what the status of his cases, but Cane is in an exceptional human being totally amazing human being. I feel like that was a story where like every No, we're all yeah every dad who heard that was like I fucking get it. I got it. I got to be careful Stray bullets, but yeah, I got the guy who the guy who did that is out What yeah, the guy who did that is out on bail so he's out and Kane was in jail at the same time.

2:21:29It's one of the most terrifying situations a father could ever find themselves in and not just Know that that guy is out, but that you're in prison and that your wife is home with your children and this guy Who has already targeted your kid Who knows how fucking sick he is he might try to target him again while you're in jail because you're you're and you might be in jail forever Who knows he might be in jail for 30 years who knows it's attempted murder. He was shooting a gun at the guy. Yeah, allegedly You know, but I'm on team Kane all the city go find me. I don't know, but if he is I'm don't find out there's a good R.

2:22:12He was a kid, but even R. He's dog No, I totally on board. I know, but there's a feeling that you when you have kids man This is a fucking protection feeling that's Jim Bruce said it to me goes. I never understood murder Who goes now I get murder? He goes I'd murder for my kids. Yeah Go fund me shut down What go fund me shut down Kane Velasquez fund raisers says donors issued refunds. Oh my god Oh Violation of terms of service What's your terms of Violent crime. Okay, prohibits raising money for the legal the yeah Not a violent crime what do you mean human beings what? Hurricane no, no, no hurricane Carter Yeah I'm glad I you know, I just added Bob Dylan's hurricane to my Spotify Rear -room playlist would push now be available.

2:23:15That's why I'm hardcore N word using that Bob Dylan should be okay. Yeah, of course The Bob Dylan's that hurricane story is complicated Yeah, but so you couldn't raise money for that defense with the new Go fund. Yeah, but that did the The story's complicated Whether or not that person was guilty or not is complicated. The hurricane story. Yeah, yeah, it's a little complicated and the The version in the movie is 100 % horseshit. Oh well the version in the movie of the guy who's like targeting him horseshit They always in the movies. They always do it with like fruitvale station They have a they can't make him a drug deal is it was like here take on my weed.

2:23:54I'm done It's like you can be a drug dealer not deserved to be a shot Yeah, well also When drugs are legal and some drugs will get you put in a cage and the people that Own the patents to those drugs or funding politicians like what Yes, there he what yeah, you know, you just don't want entrepreneurs. You know what drug dealers on a street level Yeah, the drug dealers everywhere every time you get a wall grades is a fucking plexiglass wall behind you and the drug dealer true We were filled with people stuff me and Kevin iso are driving through Arizona And we passed by some prisons. We're just looking them up.

2:24:31They all renamed rebrand and we were like they made since the 85 86 they made two billion dollars And if you told them hey one of your big funding things is weed arrests. We're gonna make that not a prop They're gonna go full on like make that illegal You know that that prison guard our business prison guard unions lobby to keep marijuana from being you're taking away I really were of our business. Yeah, just keep them employed basically Yeah, because it's like if you're if you're a business person that's what you're supposed to do if you have shareholders Yeah, if you have union memory you're supposed you're not supposed to do it morally you're supposed to do it like what's the benefit of this Shareholders these group of people that are represent.

2:25:10Oh, you wise enough to do it about corporation But are you wise enough to not do that like say say you're the what's the family that jelly roll just talked about on At congress build the birds? Well The Clintons nobody talked about a family that did all opioids Oh, the family yeah I'm just saying be fair the kids are saying you are this could you could you Could you walk away from millions who you as a person and say like you like to say you could But so I think I like to say I'm just standing hand you were if you were In the family the sack or family the kid's ship was going down The kids are like shut it down you think you would have kept your mouth shut.

2:25:54Yeah, if you knew that everybody was dying You justified everyone would everyone would everyone would line. I think Facebook started Johnny yacht and fucking no, this is this is what I think Facebook started nice and it was all friendly I think one sucker broke one sucker broke realized. Oh people are turning on each other hard for your thing He's like keep it running just keep it running. We got a machine. Yeah, it's about It's so hard intended to walk away from money. Uh -huh, no not everyone not everyone has a sweet thing in life Philo horse to the like man bird how much money we talking about you you're willing to let people die for this money You're saying I'm just saying I'm not better than the average person.

2:26:32You know what? I'm well. I don't stop you right here. What you're saying this is what I'll stop you okay? You're you Yes, and those people that work for the sackers are a different thing There if you take Uh flower and sugar and chocolate and you mix it up and you make it a fucking cake That's how you make a cake If you want to make sourdough bread you need different ingredients If you want to make a really nice guy who's a good dad and a good husband a funny guy and does a tour and does stand up comedy You go through your life. I disagree. And you make bird christre You make you if you want to make a sackler You have to have disconnected parents you have to have this weird privilege of insane financial wealth You have to have a pharmaceutical gigantic company that's been bribing politicians and manipulating narratives and shaping the public's view of pharmaceutical drugs by hiding negative side effects and Accentuating the positive benefits of it all for money, but also all the lawyers The environment that you grow up in Yeah, you're a different thing.

2:27:50It'll be hard. You're a different thing. You right now Would pass up on the money? No, no I'm running right now, but I'm saying no I'm saying if you got a fucking phone call and the sackler said this is gonna sound crazy It turns out you're a part of the fucking sackler family and you I'll have a seat on the board and you can come in and you're a part We didn't know but you're a part of the family and you know we have to give you a piece and you got to come in You're worth 10 billion dollars now. No, that's never that's that's inheriting it What if you're a comedy? What if something you do now you realize that but your family inherited their wealth Already that's why this is valid.

2:28:27He didn't he built up his life. That's why he wouldn't do it now You would do it if you were trying to do an environment with that The people that's what determinism is the idea behind it is you're shaped by all of the different circumstances You encounter and to compare your circumstances to another circumstances are crazy, but they don't make any sense But I'm wondering I'm wondering Just arguments sake if they had said to me At a young age you'll get out of comedy the sacklers have this thing called oxy cotton And it's really helping with cancer and it's like because that's how you get into it right?

2:29:06Right good. Yeah, but for sure you would have got out at an early age There's like if someone give you a lottery ticket if you if you got a lottery ticket and you won a hundred million dollars She thought about this all time. I'll probably ruin your career when you were 21 ,000 100 % oh yeah I had a 21 it would have for you wouldn't have gotten out of it. You would have taken it No, you would have taken the money and you would have become a loser. No, I'm saying you wouldn't got out of the money You would have taken the money. Yeah, if you're if you don't have any money when you get money It is the panacea it is the elixir There's a thing that exists that you didn't think was possible now all the sudden you're not worrying about bills Which is 35 % of everybody's fucking stress those wars those prisons are are they're convincing themselves?

2:29:49No, no, these are dangerous drug addicts. We can't have them on the street. They're convincing themselves. Not lying They're like yeah, but you don't even have to convince yourself man That's a human dynamic that was exposed in the Stanford prison experiments Yeah, if you get people they have power over other people they started abusing them almost Instantly like you have to have like a very Especially if somebody tells you yes To do it Yes, but at the same time it's like no, they're not totally debunked are you the end of it These people decided that they'd wanted to get out of it and they got out of it But the the reality is the way they behaved with each other was documented It was like leading them.

2:30:29Yeah, but you couldn't lead me to do that You can you catch my that's my problem. You couldn't right now, but you could with if I was 20 He was like they weren't really convinced and they were like push hard or go And it's like okay, they were convinced they were actually doing there's been a lot of weird Things about people in power and one of the weirdest ones the one the weirdest ones is There was people that were administrating A electrical shock to a person and they were told to do it by someone else So they did it and it got to the point where they thought the person might be dying and some people kept Doing it and some people some people did not and there is there is a power dynamic that I think Allows people to torture people It allows people to kill people whether they're you know whatever the fuck it you are if you're in israelia Palestinian if you're a Palestinian israeli you can kill someone They're not even a human that is the other yeah, there's a fucking programming that exists in our mind because of all the tribal warfare Human beings have gone through over hundreds of thousands of years When the time we were prehistoric humans time we were fucking modern humans We have been killing each other for so fucking long that we have a program in us where it's easy to other people That's how the Holocaust happened That's how what's happening in Ukraine is happening what's happening israel is happening you can decide that someone is Something other than a human being and they can get you to do that pretty fucking quickly If they tap into that mindset they tap into that programming they can give you a button they go hit them But he said he said he's dying hit him hit him And they would have been screaming I had to say I say this would love Tom's dad was in the Vietnam war I don't think Tom's dad was a guy that wanted to ever kill anyone But he had to in that programming the thing I think is there's a disconnect with where we as Americans look at things on social medium We think we're not that Karen we're not that person.

2:32:34We'd never do it. But until you're in that moment You don't know you really don't know a lot of normal GIs of Vietnam. We're raping fucking villagers You know probably they didn't go in his monsters, but they they We don't make you can't connect if you can't connect to the fact that that's in you. Yeah, that's in you Then I think you're lying. It's a possibility When you go into that one one when you show up. Oh, you know what just go well Love them the training You you do get trained to be killed right that that whole Speech of like Richard they are training you To see the enemy as the enemy and somebody you have to kill Right, so you're it's not day one you're prepared over a series of months and it's a version of a brainwashing They brainwash you to become a killer like this is good.

2:33:25Do it? Well, there's a there's a pattern that you can follow in your head. We can destroy another human being That's you know, and that's what you have to have in me Mike Tyson Yeah, he taught Mike Tyson that through hypnosis He taught him the most effective way to to to think and to view you don't exist He was telling them you're just the task is the only thing that's important you don't exist What this the task of smashing this person is all that it is And if you can think like that that alleviates so much brain power Maybe it's the guilt and if you tell that to a soldier you can get him to do some wild shit and they're dead they do you're dead Talk to you about that Yeah, and later years.

2:34:08Yeah, I'm curious. I would love to hear like the insight your dad had about that as a son Hearing a dad kid like going like yeah, I just had to kill people My dad's never killed me one But he was like he had asthma But like but no, no, but I'm curious because we're talking about this like like What was that as a son here in the rationale you have to accept you have to figure it out Yeah, and he was a great dad and he was a really kind loving guy, but I mean If I can first of all you love the Marine Corps Yeah, love the Marine Corps. Well, it imagine the bonds you make when you're literally fighting for life and death Yeah, and he had you know if your lute's he's a lieutenant So he has a platoon of 70 men under his command.

2:34:52So you feel also The responsibility the responsibility you take and like You know, he told me in that right before he died like in the last year of his life that he thought about The men who died his platoon every day and I had never told me that before. I was like what? He goes every day. I think about those guys that I lost and I was like I had because I had no idea You never spoke about it And he would tell me like stories about different like guys dying next to him Stepping on a mine next to him exploding three feet from him Getting shot and the worst one he said was a guy that To watch to watch movies back then you'd have to go to like a base Get a film canister and bring it back And in a monsoon season one of those guys went to get films just for entertainment And he drowned in a monsoon on the way back what So it felt like a more Meetingless death.

2:35:46Yeah, it wasn't in combat right things like that he talked about that and then Also, they do become they just they do they do get this disconnect if you're in if you're in combat Like it's not like you talking about could you kill someone? It's like you're in a World of killing that's all that's happening around you. It's not could you have to you have to and so Then he was just like yeah, yeah, that's when he started telling like so I asked him as a kid I'm ended up doing a bit about it. It's trying to But I just ask him as a kid because you see wars you see wars And you're like you see movies and you're like did you do that and as a kid you're not gonna tell a kid So he was like now it didn't work like that.

2:36:27I was in charge like I was a lieutenant It was like and then later years He's like well, I threw grenades in the bunkers. I was like were there people in the bunkers? He was like yeah That's why we're screaming. Yeah He's like oh yeah, and then he also said I mean it became like this Joke but it was truly said, you know, there's no there's no better feeling than killing the enemy right like in in combat Because they're all trying to kill the people around and they aren't killing people around right so yeah He said you know he said they would pull bodies out of these whole that the Vietnamese are small people stature wise So they would hide in holes a lot of times like holes in the ground kuchi tunnel And they would throw grenades into there and then when they'd pull them out they'd be in half So these pull like a torso out, you know and But he also said, you know Losing men left and right like in your platoon.

2:37:20I mean it's devastating to you So the person you bonded with and and here's the training you're over there for a lie Yeah, I think that's the part that they don't a lot of people don't ever reconcile with if if they're That's gotta be the hardest yeah, you're over there committing atrocities for a lie There's no reason for you to be there Like they're not here over there the golf a tonk and incident wasn't real To the golf a tonk and two is something that even Active duty people at the time didn't realize Till 2030 you know, I mean they're not yeah, well that's smendly butler the war war is a racket.

2:37:59That's his whole That article that he wrote from 1933 who's a You know very established general The end of his career he writes What he was really doing what he thought he was doing It was really just like making things safer bankers Wow controlling resources. This is 33 Wow, it's called war is a racket really I recommend taking things say you talked about that before I've talked about every time I can because people need to understand these patterns are They're repeating themselves forever because they're a part of a human behavior patterns They're these natural patterns that exist in order to enable us to survive To survive you have to conquer your enemies control resources establish Safegrounds and that stuff can get out of hand if that's your whole business if that's your whole business You've been doing that forever then you find reasons to go to war that war machine The war machine.

2:38:56Yeah, but eyes now are talked about at the end of his presence. Yeah, that's how you get the Hillary Clinton It's still it's still own him. Yeah, wait is your dad's soul love. Yeah, is your dad's soul off Yeah, allegedly You know my my uncle you know my dad was active duty on the ground my uncle flew over 600 missions in Vietnam Yeah, dropping bombs on your mom's feet. I mean think about I think about Jesus Christ imagine being the guy in the plane that drops the fucking nuke No, they never see the guy that did and he was like it fucked him up. Oh, no one of them was like to That's just what it is like you know, you know the big thing is they didn't just killed 100 ,000 But they didn't know if their plane was gonna let it be able to It like get away from the bomb go over so they'd like fucking fly crazy Altitudes try to get out of the bomb.

2:39:58Isn't that crazy like first time you're not exactly sure Yeah, you see Oppenheimer. Yeah, amazing. I read the book shut up I don't even read I do read Okay, of course you do if I read I read like 10 % of what I listen to books on tape. I wish you read for less Huh, I wish you read less. Why be easier to hang out with you My heart ring I read this Joe you know It's like I can't you're like new me when I was stupid. Yeah, I know I wish I got that Joe I got the early Joe the dumb Joe those that my favorite Joe this Joe like before you discovered a book. Oh, fuck I remember when you got curious I remember it.

2:40:42I didn't have a platform where I can get people to talk to as long as you can keep from moon landings or aliens or pyramids you're good Leanne's always wondered what's it like hanging out with Joe and I was like I don't know it's really hard to explain And then you hung out with it the night. I don't know what you're talking about. I just stopped listening so you were like About uh inclusions and and and Bob Lazar and and the fuck yeah, we were talking about this lady I don't know Pasoca who was on the podcast who is she's a religious scholar and she was talking about how There is a growing theory that these experienced people having with UFOs UAPs alien abductions This is not something from another planet.

2:41:28It's something that's always been here. Oh, it's an inter inter -dimensional being That there's a bunch of different variables that have to come into play for these things to be able to pass forth into our realm But that they're somehow or another monitoring us and have always been and that these crash retrievals they call them donations Hmm best post sex conversation I've ever had Hope programs right. I want to be angels with you up in heaven. Yeah, it might does it cool. It's fucking yeah Chungawajou for fucking ten minutes and then we had sex and she was like Jesus. She was like Hey, I love that idea.

2:42:06Yeah, but there's angels were real. That's cool. I I think if you stopped and thought about how many cultures believe in some greater power That's above everything that they intuitively know is guided you in a moral and ethical direction There's gotta be something to it. Yeah, there's something to it agree Suck my dick Louis CK you're right He can suck my dick. He doesn't look because he didn't believe in anything You know, that's a fair way to believe No, you want to just do it based entirely on evidence. That's a very reasonable Because he's like you're just making up a reason it's this yeah, but I like that more like that more I think the universe is god That's what I think keep going.

2:42:51I think this idea of God creating the universe is silly I think the whole thing is God. I think it's it's God in the fact that it's the entire creation of everything that exists that we can measure all of that is the universe And if you read the Bible the Bible talks about in the beginning there was light Boy, that sounds a lot like the Big Bang Boy, that sounds a lot like the birth of the universe I think these fucking people that wrote the Bible were recounting stories that were told down through people that had a Scientific understanding of the birth and death universe just like we do now Maybe even more than we do now and then they got hit by asteroids And then it was thousands of years for civilization reestablished itself and the stories had been told down Handed down forever and ever and by the time people wrote them down They were goofy and they were goofy and there's like God created the earth in six days and the whole story of Adam and Eve and There's probably a lot To all of it.

2:43:44That's true and it's probably a historical record that was told To people that were essentially barbarians that were surviving from the collapse of a Superior civilization Superior to what we have today and there's a lot of real physical evidence of that There's a lot of archaeological evidence of that and it seems to be a Direction than a lot of people are headed into when they understand how often we get hit with asteroids Somewhere around 11 ,800 years ago we got pelted and it stopped civilization in its tracks And we had a rebuild from scratch and the people that survived were probably monsters Monsters the Mongols and the fucking hordes and the barbarians They were the most harsh people because that was the only way you survived because there was no longer a technologically advanced civilization It was all just barbarism and there's very few animals to eat because there's a nuclear winter Because the sky is filled with what the the impact of this massive meteor that slams into earth and kills 70 % of all the people And then about 6000 years later they start figuring out mathematics again.

2:44:53Wow. This is why this podcast That's what I think what do you think as a you grew up religious? Uh -huh. What is your take on God you gave up your reward. Yeah, they said they said the years were different So when they said it was created 5 ,000 years ago that like that's our understanding of the years They're like this guy's this this guy left to 260 but like that's just I don't know some seasons past when they wrote that They didn't even have a son right to the like how old you like I don't know if calendar study you believe you're in a higher power. No, no, why What do you why what happens?

2:45:27No, why do I believe what why do you when what happens when you die when you die? I want to forget you I'll be a man Harold you know I've worked really hard so that doesn't happen You know that's one one of my biggest things about working is I wonder Because you they say you die twice you die when you die and then you die when the last person that remembers you dies I try to get a great I try to look at the graveyard and see who they are try to nates say their name and keep my life a little longer. Whoa. Yeah, yeah, it's creepy So there's no sometimes I call my dead friends on their cell phone numbers They were answer.

2:46:00Nope. They never got that number again. That's interesting. Yeah, I why I don't like The death thing I don't believe in it, but I don't leave it death. Yeah I have one phone that I keep active because I have a text message chain from Anthony Bourdain and a voicemail from a buddy might have died Who player? No, Dave Dolan my in the private investigator friend It was the funniest guy I ever met that never did stand up Hmm, I was a amateur comic and he was a Private investigator that lost his driver's license because he was drunk driving So he needed an assistant and so yes, we really just needed someone to drive him And so I was like private investigators assistant that'd be a cool job So I just start working for this guy and he died a few years back.

2:46:48We need to left me a voicemail It's fucking awesome. What was the last text Anthony Bourdain sent you? That's a good question. Please let him call you No, there was a there was a restaurant and I I took a photo of this chef that was prominently figured on the wall I go who's this guy and it's Marco Pierre White No, he is Google that guy he's One of the most extraordinary chefs that's like ever existed He's like a true artistic genius. That's a chef. Where's he based out of? He's inspired. He's in spot. Yeah, he's English. He's amazing He's a really fast -ending guy. There's a ton of videos of him talking about food and talking The way he approaches food is the way you know Rembrandt approach paintings I mean he's a guy.

2:47:42He's a wizard. I mean he's legitimate. He's 100 % all -in I believe now the way he sets up these insane restaurants and I think one of them he's using now from a farm If I remember correctly that like he runs He's certainly done that in the past where they source all of their ingredients from that love every love it love it And you know, they set the they set the menu and I mean It's just it's cuisine taken to a level of precision that it just does and It's not just food the food experience that had in Asia by the way it was unbelievable. Yeah, I saw your post It was unbelievable. So how did you know to go a lot of it was that Philip Lee was there or friend Philip Lee Oh, he was in Tokyo.

2:48:28Oh, that's amazing. They're a month. Oh, that's amazing So he like we went to an omakase sushi place for lunch that I was like this is Absolutely insane a tap and yaki place at a hotel. Here's that well That's one of the things oh my dick's horn. Oh my god. So tap and yaki like oh he said this thing that I was like Oh, I didn't realize this that in the states a lot of times when you stay at a hotel You go we got to get out of the hotel to find something good to eat right the hotel restaurant. You're like the world shit but the The thing in Tokyo is that hotels like you're you're fucking high at hotel Has a restaurant that you're like I wish I could eat here every night like the food The you know, it's that thing of like the ingredient is the star.

2:49:18So like a salad You have a basic salad that's a little is like the best tomato you've ever had the lettuce. Yeah We had king crab. They go do you want king crab at this tap and yaki place? And I was like yeah, like king crab and I'm thinking of it all the times. I've had it before And they bring it out raw it had just been brought in From a ship earlier that day And then they just season it put a little butter on the like the griddle there and prepare it It was the best I never had anything like that before the Wagyu Mafia, which is like a Theater performance it's six top six tabletop and it's just 13 different variations of Wagyu beef I mean, and then we went to Hong Kong and we had There's this place called new Poon job club It's a one -star Michelin place Indian food that was It's one star meme So one star is level.

2:50:12It's like yeah, there's three star possibilities So one star is that this is if it's if it's accessible to you, it's worth going to eat here Okay, two stars is like it's worth going out of your way to eat here Three stars is it's worth making a trip to go to this place just to eat here I want to one of those so the ones yeah, we went to a three -star Singapore that was called zen that was just unbelieved but in Hong Kong that Indian place their kitchen Was smaller than the space we're in right now. Whoa, and they had a how many seats they had probably six tables And they had a cylinder like a ceramic cylinder and they brought us into the kitchen with coal down there And they just take sticks and they put them in there with chicken and beef and everything and it gets to life I don't know I'm a thousand degrees in there, but every dish came out and you're like this is every everything We ate was like this is the best thing I've ever eaten You know, but the three star in Singapore really was one of those Experiences where the experience starts when you walk in you walk there, you know see it waiting room experience Did you ever see the movie the menu?

2:51:18Yes, isn't it amazing?

2:51:25I love that Or right? Yeah, it was like best restaurant three out of five years and the guy was like we were on a festival Is it let's just go see it they're not gonna get you in and they go hey these guys are coming from comedians visiting wait Hold on is this pre -lapped band surgery? Oh, yeah, oh fuck yeah, and anyway I'm taking it now. I'm taking an app get a call. We got a cancellation for lunch. You want to come in and I was like Yeah, call Bobby. He's with the promoter Bobby's like now we're short of pizza and the guys hit him in the face That pizza down and go with it right now and Bobby said I'll eat the pizza also 26 course lunch They don't have lemons because it's not local.

2:52:02They don't want everything's local So use ants that give you that lemony zest ants a fried moss And there was it's ants ants and there was a pairing a booze pairing fried moss. We have it's great There was a booze pairing Bobby's like I'm an alcoholic canning because we have a juice pairing for you There's no level that they won't accommodate to make a comment experience where we were in the kitchen There were three guys peeling walnuts the little brown Casing on a walnut and I was like who are those guys like they're high level chefs. I'm like what are they doing? They don't want that shit getting you stuck in your teeth That's the thing.

2:52:35This is one of the things you wish you could share Right there and you wish you could share this experience with everybody like just so they get to Oh, that's fucking ants. Yeah, and you didn't you just do it. You don't think twice. It's amazing All right, what's better? It's a she into plan or like that high and sushi or pasta in Europe When you're in Italy Food's good too. No, but I mean, I mean like what like if you had everything have to be a competition with you Oh, I'm trying to start a conversation I want to get a big team. Yeah, some of that shit's great too a local small body Ham and pasta which and Ham and tortillas Listen man, if I had two foods to choose for the rest of my life only based on flavor.

2:53:21It's Italian in Mexican Yeah, it's great, but I like to get drunk. I like a fucking burrito. Yeah, I like it. You serve those Remember those chicken burritos we used to get in San Diego when we go to La Jolla. Our Carlos. Oh Yeah, that's like That really watery red sauce that was on the chicken. Oh my god. You cuz I know what what you cuz on Vermont LA No, it's a parking lot with a Like a hut like a stand look like a like where you would go to get a parking ticket. Yeah, I'm kitchen Whoa, and she got the James Beard award really yeah really and it's like Just tacos the way she made them and you go And I guarantee that's high level chess from that would love to eat it you cuz Bro, if it wasn't for the fact that it's not good for you I'd be cuz I'd beat Mexican food every day Mexican food in a time food.

2:54:17I'd be linguine Yeah, if food was just calories purely and there was no nutrition at all restaurant dude There was no concern. Well, what's good for your body and bad for your body. Yeah. Oh my god Being eaten pasta all the wrong Ah, that's what I beat in lasagna. It was if food was all just just every food was equal a rigatoni norcina Uh, what's the one with it with the egg yolk in it right now? Oh, yeah, they mix it up carbonara Carbonara is the fucking great. It's Felix and Venice. No, I've never pulled up hold up I heard many pull up pull up Evan funky. He's got three restaurants now. He's got mother wolf.

2:54:57He's got funky I'm in a mother wolf. Oh, my god. I don't even think about going gluten free when I go to that job No, mother wolf is the shit real yeah, I go I let that carnivore diet go fuck itself Like we're here from mouth pleasure Evan is a wizard. He's been on the podcast before he has Yeah, he's a wizard. It's just where you see it like there artists about it. Oh thinking about another level. Yes brother Roy Choi friend of Tom and we Tom and I used to do breakfast dinner with Roy Choi all the time in the next door to me He revolutionized taco trucks good from the important He said to me one time we went to dinner for his daughter's birthday and he said So what do you have for dinner?

2:55:36He said I'm going vegan. I said really so I'm going vegan for a year. So I feel like Meat has dominated my palate and I want it. I want to really challenge my palate to find flavor of those guys do it for you And then and then you go wow that's that's dedication to the craft. That's fucking next level man That's the fucking thing. I could do Like hard dog go eat squash for years too, but I can eat ribeye steaks 365 days here You gave me twosons. Yeah, let's go. No, they're rogues. They're too rough. Tommy. Turn me on the other best of the best guys Pass me to I'm into 24 milligrams. Hey It's a pocket drop on the ground Don't be scared with your mouth.

2:56:24Do it with your mouth. There's only random people from all walks of life I Have that see many times. Yeah, it's not the safest Love the seating toys for protect my parks I love the seating toys first protect my box. Why I don't know. I like you where you are right here. Yeah, and normally Switches up. I'm not in love with sunglasses either Oh, no, they have to go sunglasses where they get fucked up. They let shame be shane. Hey, let's Tim Dylan be Tim Dylan You got to give a band the option of sunglasses. You have to really yeah A lot of people Here, let me show you mine. He's gonna be gonna piss into a jar Wait, are you closer?

2:57:08Are you are you? No, it's not closer one No, don't do that How to great dick your sack looks like you lost 500 pounds Thank you So let's go viral. Let's go viral. I'm not showing my dick. I'm a grown man. What are your balls bigger than you dick? No, they're regular. Yeah It's not hard to come coming nope real. No, what do you think about when you come? Ah, I really don't have a thing man don't piss in the fucking Why don't you go to the bathroom just take this kid go out there Right there take your take your headphones off and go walk out Ari. Oh, go walk. Don't piss in my mug. I'll take it Just walk them both out now like you should have just left before I should How much piss you have left in you do you really have a good gauge?

2:58:04Yeah, it's done I was gonna work the top the bubble I just tell you that like when you have to piss and you do piss It's one of the great feelings of life. It's so good It's so good and it's one of those things we're ashamed of you know, so we don't talk about it like we really appreciate a good solid piss If you even drink it beer Don't zip your dick in you how many times you done that cut your dick in your zipper? Yeah, that's that's stopped me from going bearback I thought like bearback was like a wild person's way to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't need no fucking underwear I'm not pushing you that way to wear a couple times.

2:58:36I cut my dick and my zip never does I know I pull your dick out in front of everybody at Vulcan. I know You did I pants them. I pants some dirty kill Tony his ass was hanging out. I was like let's go Let's go you get you get a little shaft caught in a zipper that'll change you that'll do no no It's a good fucking you gotta wear you need underwear I know where I'm important keep together no no, okay, what do you just feel you just feel great though, huh? It's basically in a suit pant It's one of those seek things you feel like a wild person you ditches If I have must feel good with no one to remember those days where the girls were getting caught Getting out of limos with their pussy.

2:59:19Yeah, yeah I'm purpose on purpose on a percent because the camera's down. Yeah, it can't was literally like focused on their vagina Yeah, like from like download like like Imagine it's like a wildlife photographer Yeah, yeah I'm gonna go and move it over see if this Jaguars are gonna come out of that. Yeah, they did it was like so good. They figured out how to be viral or early on Yeah, just show your pussy. That was so fascinating to me when I learned that a lot of those people that are always in pop rod that they Give a heads up to the pop rod. Oh, yeah, you know, I didn't know that originally.

2:59:55Yeah. Oh, they call Like I'm having a beard and then they go Oh, yeah, exactly. How do you deal with paparazzi? How do I deal with them? Do you engage or do you just tap out? I mean the only thing I think I deal with is probably autograph people that just are ever they go never had like paparazzi come up to you Yeah, I did it on Melrose and in LA, but they're not like you are you generous or are you just like Ago myself the TMZ guys are good guys The comics that you know, we're just headphones. Yeah, they're good trying to make them they're good guys just to make it money And I was talking to some hot foreign chick at the patio the store and I was coming up and the guy was like hey Man, we're dumb at the day.

3:00:36Can I get an interview with you TMZ? I was like, yeah sure They talked her for about 20 minutes than she left and I was like you don't really want anything No, I'm trying to make you look cool That's like nice There's a good move there was like 20 of them outside of a store once and then they all surrounded me And I was like you're not here for me and they're like no so and so is shopping They're just nice Most of them are just people man, and then they're also get abused all the time, but some of my friends and cramps Some of them are like yeah invading privacy Yeah, I mean this people the developers and fed up to the people's phones.

3:01:15It's crazy tapped in their emails. You worried about that? No Not really I assume everyone is listening to every phone call. Do you think of that when you text? 100 % I think of that yeah, and I still send memes shut the fuck up. I'll defend these in court bitch. These are funny What's what's his name? Pete Lee? Yeah, Pete Lee You know the story maybe better than I do. No, Pete Lee the comic comic. He had a stalker who was trying to kill him Oh boy, and it was really bad It had to go to court and he had talked apparently about a stalker on Legion's Sqanks And they read the transcripts of Legion's Sqanks in court no And it murdered Oh my god Everyone's laughing hysterically and they're like fuck this guy's guilty Yo, do you hear that sword Norton told on the podcast?

3:02:08Who? Norton had a legal issue with this guy that he'd criticized on the podcast. Oh, and he read the state We go into detail. Go into detail. I'm doing that They read the this transcript during the podcast and people were laughing and the the guy got humiliated So he decided to settle the case That guy went on to shoot a judge's son She went he went to the house pretend he was like a delivery guy and shot the son of this judge And he was trying to kill the judge and then she got away or she wasn't there. I don't remember what happened But this this is the same guy that Norton was involved in a lawsuit with for making fun of he was he was a woman's advocate Or a man's advocate man's right now.

3:02:54Yeah, so he I think he's the same person that protested Eliza From not mistaken Suspect and fatal shooting at home of judge Esther Salas described himself as an anti -feminist lawyer once argued a case before the judge He's a female name. Yeah, well, she was a she was a female judge. He showed up in her house and the fucking kill her son It's so crazy man. That's really scary. Yeah, that's terrible. I love that Norman or that Jim Norton is happy And glad you love that he's happy. I love it. I love it. I love seeing him happy man. It makes me so happy I love the glass of water for you. I just worried you were gonna go pissing that.

3:03:37Yeah, Jesus Christ Guys grow the fuck up. Whoa grow the fuck up. I'm weird You know, it kind of like Everybody pees with a solid glass of piss right next to your right arm Yeah, the the thing he's doing with his wife on YouTube. Yeah, I love it I'm glad you love it. I love it man. I love I love I love I'll say this out loud. I love seeing people succeed. I Love seeing people win. I love flowers. Jim's underrated Hardcore he's underrated. He's one of the best comics of our generation his hey day on open Anthony He made an open Anthony. He made him made that's an understatement right there. He made it It was weird to me that it was open Anthony and Jim was on it.

3:04:26I was like it seems kind of weird I know I know they're show for years before and then I know I know wasn't what it was until Joe Jim showed up Yeah, they were at Boston They were they never had the comedians. They had all I mean respectfully. I love open Anthony I love those guys. I was fans show But that group of comics that was on it the reason this podcast is what it is today and in all fairness Is because of that fucking show, but it's also because of Jim Yeah, it's because that show gave people the opportunity to just hang out and I remember when Aureon I used to do it in the early days It was just like this is a place where you could just hang out with comics.

3:05:00There was no script There's a lot of stuff around and also they were cool about like you were a headliner in a name And they were like who's this like is it my openers come was comic up? Give him like yeah I would tell them I got a funny guy was coming with me. I'm gonna bring him in They'd be like cool. Okay, Tommy Tommy So hard How'd you bomb I was totally not ready for it. I was not a fan of the show. Oh, you didn't know I was I knew about the show But I didn't listen to it. I didn't know I went in there and I was just I said a couple words and I just kind of sat in the pocket And then Ricky's your vase came in oh wow and then I started talking to Ricky As the show was going on just like hey what's going on?

3:05:44Oh, no, while the show was happening. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you realize your mic was on kind of and then Yeah, Ricky and I just kept talking and then I'd look over and I'd see the guys like What are you fucking do? Yeah, you might be the most epically in retrospect horrific comic taber do radio Without a doubt because Tom is never even a fuck about anything ever in his life ever So when you did Tom when you to Bob and Tom they're like right out your things you want to say it Tom was like I'll just figure it out Yeah, they never give a fuck they asked me to do that too. I'm like I'm not doing that.

3:06:23I do It's a really upset. I got them so upset like And I go we're gonna figure it out I'm not that kind of comic. This is like it. This is nonsense. You're doing some 1985 nonsense I didn't like that at all and this is not 1985 get out of here They're not but they were Tom was doing that before anyone else Like I with absolute love when you see all the comics coming on and fucking up radio and and TV that they're doing now It's a little bit based on the fact that you really did not give a fuck hang on A lot of guys didn't including Tracy Morgan. Oh Tracey This belly was like someone's getting pregnant So I'll get pregnant.

3:07:06He would be slapping his butt. That's what I'm making call my philosophy on it was basically I think Podcasts radio television all go can go really well based on the host's interest Yeah, and so what I had was I had a real Like personal fuck you to a host That was like I don't really care who you are or what you're doing here. I'm just this is what we do And so if they were like You're at the club this week. I would go yeah For it and then they were like be funny. I'd be like once you go suck your fucking mom's dick And then they would go what's that's a business partner? So that's why you came out with That's what that was why DJ that amount came out was like so it came out to this specific person that came out just because I was like I don't want to do this Um, I see you never doing I don't want to do this I never have only we always actually obligated they just make it so what they would end up doing is the funny bones would go Hey, if you would if you would do this You know, we bring people every week no matter whether they're Big or small sell tickets or not.

3:08:16So like when I started to sell tickets They'd be like oh, they go oh your shows are sold out this week I'd be like cool like and you're doing good morning heart for tomorrow on I'd be like why and like because we do it every week I'd go with but it's not to sell tickets Right because the tickets are sold it's just to promote the club. Yeah, so they're like no but get up at five And go do it and I'm like all right So that kind of came from that but before that I'm saying like like even like I did Kimmel last night You when you go there you're like all right, I'm gonna like you know you do a pre -interview with a producer It still rides on the fact that he's engaged and wants it to go well Yeah, right and so and he totally was and it was really fun and it went well But in the radio days a lot of times those radio hosts Sometimes there's like the the the filly guys precedence these So they they come in like you come in and they're like they they know Questions they know what you've been doing yeah, so that makes the experience fun They're happy to see you great, but you go into places where they're just like they're literally like you're born Cincinnati and you go yeah and there go Trying to leave like yeah, so tell us something about that you're like what So I I didn't go oh, Ohio if I left that place and you the hosts were like I didn't really like you I'd be like I don't give a shit that you don't like me.

3:09:35I'm not here to fucking dance You have ridden that horse into the grave. I love that about you is that you got to remember this is before when you were doing that the Only white no one white white person was doing that Tracy Morgan was a famous person will go in and be wild on on Then and everyone will be fucking love we share with each other Tracy was the time was doing it In earnest Like everyone can find you at the same time I was going at the same places and being like oh god, please play a Tracy Morgan one Look at me on I'm handsome I got so many kids Texas your past so I'm telling you now with the jaguars last night.

3:10:20I love my ladies here. Wow. Oh my god Yeah, so again not family That's always these guys you know, it's it's the same guy in every boy. Yeah, but they're loving it They're loving it and Tom will go in and do that But he would do it his own way, you know, and it was so fucking Awesome, man, cuz so many of us myself included would just suck a dick and be like We're not sweet to you in above the rest of my mind. No, I just agree what you would do is you would go in you go with fun energy You go and you go. I'm gonna make this fun. I would drink on those you go. Yeah, I love it You go already do it already do it already do it already do it Get out already got a hard month coming what's your hard month?

3:11:09I'm going hard celebrating Tommy what February Fuck don't bring it to me. We're trying to do in February. I'm doing stuff I'm trying to move to London to let those bitches know hey guys are you guys gonna run our five K What is it a specific place or just wherever you are? I want to bike it five K by May Where is it jelly rolls doing it camhain's doing is it a specific place just anywhere? They're gonna we're gonna do a five K where we're picking a spot. We have an agreement. I'll say yeah Let's do it. I'll show you. Louis doing it great call Tim Dylan is doing it. No Tim Dylan's not gonna kill big time right now.

3:11:50He'll probably have a head Tim Dylan's doing it planning on doing it. Tim Dylan's doing it. Uh, not doing gillus is doing it. Jamie K is doing that three and a half miles. They're not doing it. It's a 3 .1 buddy. Tim Dylan's not doing it. He said he was great No, it's just completed I think it's the good. Oh, but it's all I just remember this the best radio one Was when I went in do you ever have somebody and they go sit here And they're doing the thing. There's like we're coming. Yeah, just waiting Yeah, we're coming back from break All right, so then he walked you in the room. They sit you here Then the guy could not be less interested.

3:12:30He's like reading the paper. What radio station Tell it. So he's uh, it's in the northeast but he goes He goes all right. We'll be back from the break in 30 seconds and I go okay. He goes to just take over And I go what? He goes just take over and I go what are you talking about? He goes it's just your show you have shows to speak and just do whatever you want to do and I go I'm not gonna do anything and then it's like 10 seconds. He's like what do you mean you're not gonna do anything? I go I'm not gonna do anything Like if you don't ask me something I'm not gonna say a single fucking word and he goes Uh, and he goes uh, you know, this is always things he goes uh Bobby Lee was here Uh, last week.

3:13:07He took all his clothes off and I go had that play on radio And then it was like you're on and this guy was fucking scrambling like Freaking out he read my fake bio So I had a fake bio. Yeah, that's his internet So it was all like made up and it was like you played for the Bengals and yeah He was like So he's asking me all the fake questions and he's a full start sweating He starts sweating and he has his co -host who doesn't know how to also navigate But they were just to me they embodied like lazy disinterested and you know, yeah, they were like unhappy in this market doing what they do And they were just like takeover I was like fuck you.

3:13:52Yeah, that's the best thing about him I would have scrapped. He really doesn't give a fuck you just go Not as nice you realize how many times me and you yeah, maybe maybe I'm saying maybe not me and you but like Just went in and did the dance. Yeah, and that's why I'm I look up to because it's the coolest thing about you is that you really don't give a fuck. That is nice It's so cool to not give a fuck It's so sexy like it's not when you give a fuck it's a little sad sometimes You know think I give a fuck about sir you don't give a yeah, yeah, right, but what you don't give a fuck about I really read the comments you do not give a fuck I do not give a fuck you're the perfect amount of fucks.

3:14:34Yeah, I think it's like a balance. No, it's the right balance. No, it's detrimental To what him? How so I've I read his comments. I'd be like start giving a fuck. Yeah, but who's writing those comments? You can't read comments. I do the people that are writing them you get a disproportionate amount of failures You're getting a disproportionate amount of people that are just yeah for sure But it's not it's not if you're trying to get like a control study of the population general population if you do Pharmaceutical study you have a bunch of old people bunch of young people different walks alive.

3:15:06You're gonna do it right You do with a bunch of biological variability The variability of people that are wanting to comment negatively online is like you can find those people They don't have to shit together. That's people with dizziness. Some of them are kids ignore them. Yeah a lot of them are kids They're really young some of them they think it's fun. They don't they're trying to get a reaction They don't know what to do. They just try to like shit on you and see if you respond It's a nonsense way to communicate You don't know who they are. You don't know what their background is. You don't know whether their opinion is valid You're accepting negativity and human beings have a natural propensity to look towards negative things Because your brain is programmed to look for intruders and dangerous things.

3:15:51Yeah, so you could look at a hundred people in your village That you love but you see one person that doesn't love you to stand on a hillside, you know 50 yards away you get scared sure like oh shit What's that and that's what that is that's what comments are Just you're you're hijacking your natural system. That's why I think you're the positive ones are that's what I love I mean no no because I remember I there was a time I was getting negative when the movie came out I was getting a lot of negative shit and I texted Tommy. I was like can you just take a look at it and see if it's real you know, I don't I can't look at it It fucks me up.

3:16:25So I just stopped looking at it. I heard someone do it for me, but I don't trust them No, no, no, no, no, just like Monitored of them and then Tommy read them and he's like, it's actually kind of sweet You're like it's not that bad. I was like oh for real. He's like yeah, I love that You got to find a you got a you're gonna have a certain amount of people They fucking hate everything because you're big hey, we were talking in the green room Do the night. I was talking about this person wrote this uh They were talking about all -time Gregor Tarrist and he said Hendrix was mostly noise. Yeah, like that is the craziest fucking thing I've ever heard it's trying to be a race of it's like now you like him.

3:17:05You just don't like him as much as everyone else does No, it's just it's a contrarian perspective A lot of people like to do that too. Yeah, this guy shit on the thing is the best. They don't suck. They're just you think they're a B -plus It's also fun. Don't you think it's fun sometimes sometimes just to provoke yeah, it is Me not me not me you definitely you are. Yeah, it's fun. Yeah, you're number one at that. You love it Just to provoke just like let me get a rise Yeah, it's a fun way to initiate a conversation. Yeah, yeah Not not me. I like I just I cruise by Try to keep my head down read those comments on Yes, you do you just said you don't know no, no, Tommy's comments.

3:17:43Right Tommy's you don't read yours. No, I do never Not ever never ever now and then never late at night taking a shit three in the morning Never, so I never read yours. I never I'm happy about this post so that I can see if it's positive Let me see if people have a good to read it all Well, so wait, why would you believe I didn't guess I'm different than you How so don't you think? Oh, you don't think you think we're the same. I think we're so similar. That's fascinating buddy me and you If we sub in bed together, we fight over the sheets. I don't think so. I'm not a sheet fighter We're gonna be up.

3:18:19I would want you to have an equitable amount of the sheets is if I was soon There's enough sheets for two people what part of you you know twin what part of you you have to identify with me a little bit I know I drive you nuts. That's interesting. I know I drive you nuts at times I know I feel about what he's saying Uh about you guys being the same thing. I mean No, I think there's similarities in everyone, but I think you're pretty different people But I think as far removed as can stay in my friend group Here's I told you what I think you what I think I tell you how I feel about you I tell you how I feel When nadios says I didn't get bullied.

3:19:09I had a big brother. Right. I think you're my big brother. Oh Sweetie. I do. I feel like I have a big brother I've said that to you and I've said that to you. I think you guys approach things very differently We do and I think I think I drive you fucking nuts I have to I know I mean you know you drove me nuts during sober October you bring out his competitive spirit You bring that just have fucking monster in there and you let him have the case But I love your monster. Yeah, like the way a younger brother would like Needling as big brother. I like your monster. Here's the big that one of the big things.

3:19:41I think it's super different Is that he approaches things of like all right, if I want to Be proficient at this thing. I'm gonna do it all the every day because that's how you get good the consistency in the discipline And you go You know what? I think I can win this shit And that's one of the big like philosophical differences of how you approach life. Yeah But I but I listen a listen to podcasts all the time and I love the way your brain thinks I would never listen to my podcast But like I like the way your brain thinks. I'm just curious That's the way my brain thinks. I'm always just trying to figure out why I think what I think and why this other person thinks what they think But I do that.

3:20:24I do the same in a flip flop Like I like the way your brain thinks, but it's not the way my brain thinks. I have no discipline I don't like discipline one of the cool things about hanging out with different walks of life You obviously become very successful Claiming you have no discipline. You do as in this place You know in secret time that I go to you I lean on you For like in times of real need like when I what I was with my cardiologist and I was like hey man I'm lost. I don't want to do and you were like card Carnival And so I do that I do that But the problem is and I would say this honestly just to R .E.

3:21:01with privately but like We knew you before you or you like we knew you before this thing So like I know I know I know you and I know who you've become And and I obviously respect that I really do but I but like My my Joe guy I knew is you is you and I don't think I've changed that You see it's a perception of you this changed yeah, I'd say everyone else Falls into that with a lot of famous people they fall into what they think of someone But then and so they don't get treated us who they really are I think I've improved my perspective on things and the way I treat people But you've grown in the center you're a better person.

3:21:44I mean, honestly you're an amazing person But but I will always know you as the dude that walked me into his house I will never know you as this thing like this thing is pretty fucking insane. It's just like cool for you But that's not but my version of it is fairly small you've been pretty good at keeping I hang around the same people I go to the club I go to the key ring I work out I do all things I have to do it's not just that I have new friends It's just like I I fucking torture myself So like my perspective is balanced. Yeah, like the worst thing that happens during my day It's probably not as bad as what I've done to myself So like I go into every day with like a baseline.

3:22:27I like I can handle shit That hasn't changed in you at all No, it's the best way to regulate things like what Henry Rawlings was saying in that essay It's the best way to regulate things It's the best way to keep a perspective on things You don't want to become a tyrant you don't want to become like enamored with power and enamored influence I'm not interested you're not a guy who says do you know who I am I'm not interested you don't need to I say if you don't know I if you don't know I am I'm happy. I love the talk to it. Do you just know me? They're shocking. It's gonna be fun talk talk when was the last time you had that or someone was like you can tell What do you do for a living what Sometimes people bullshit you it's great.

3:23:08Yeah, sometimes people This is who you are Tommy's got friends that I've met that I go what do you do for living and I get fucking angry I go How do you not know who I am? Dennis or whatever the guy lives next to you. Yeah, so this what do you do for living? Oh fucking Shut down. I had this fancy fancy lunch once with Eric Von Dan. I love it Eric Weinstein invited me to this lunch with Eric Von Daniken Danikins the one who wrote the chair to the gods He wrote that book about ancient aliens coming down here and building the pyramids and all this while shit and He knew that I was gonna He knew I knew everything about this guy.

3:23:49I knew everything about his book I knew I watched his documentary multiple times. I've seen all the criticisms about it I want to have this conversation with him. I'll find out why he thinks the way things But when he said what do you do for a living? Because he didn't know I was I was like I'm a comedian and Weinstein started laughing and and he goes well, he's you know, I go I'm a comedian And he did it started explaining the podcast and all the different stuff But I was like I just just tell me what you think you really think of why you think sure if you ask me what I do Through change the answer.

3:24:20Yeah, it's also it's like I like that. He didn't know I was like this is wonderful Yeah, this is wonderful. This is a nice conversation totally and I and respectfully why do you believe this and why do you ignore all the evidence That seems to lean to an advanced civilization that built this and that we're we've have a rebuilding of advanced civilizations today That's much more plausible But he's his whole business is sort of once you have an initial assertion You write a book about it. You make a documentary about it. Everybody's gonna say like that's you can't change your opinion Because that book's still on the shelf.

3:24:53I bought your fucking book your books bullshit The books what I thought back then I didn't know any better But that was a good one. It's funny. You don't know who they are. I know everything about him Yeah, I had studied him for so long. I had studied his field I'd watched his film multiple times because his film asks real questions Like how the fuck did they do this? There's some some stones and Lebanon and some fucking crazy Quarried stones like how the fuck were they planning on moving this? Where they had a band in the stone because it was a crack in it And so they moved on so they have the evidence of how they actually quarried these things understand those all those ancient Quarries uh like structures When you think about what it takes how we build things today and you see these things built and it's like a hundred thousand pounds Stone it's the best evidence that people were more advanced back exactly and then you go and that not only is it like Together, whereas it's seamless between two you can't put a piece of paper between They what they did What they did was probably follow a line of Innovation that's different from the line we follow one that we can't really right relate to We followed we followed combustion engines industrial evolution Manufacturing in a large scale.

3:26:16That's what we follow. Yeah, what they followed is probably something very different that we yeah So we just probably had to do with frequencies and sound and how you could pour through bore through stone They had diamond drills. Do you think if they saw our stuff they'd be like what the fuck? Yeah, they'd probably like weird out by the internet. Oh, yeah If they didn't have it but the thing is like if you have electronics and you leave them on the ground They're they don't exist in a hundred years. They will be get absorbed by the earth within a thousand years There's no trace You'll find the minerals that are in the the batteries and all that stuff that'll all break down There'll be nothing left.

3:26:52It's nothing if you watched buildings That were in Detroit that people abandoned and you see trees growing through those buildings quickly man Houses cars you see a car that gets left in the woods It just gets broken down to rust and within a thousand years. There will be nothing So if there was some shit that existed like the conventional dating of the great pyramids 2005 at our BC that's under heavy speculation the real belief it's it's probably the guys from John Anthony West and Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson They point towards a possibility of a super sophisticated civilization more than 11 ,000 BC So I think that's the thing that I've never really No really considered is that you always go oh they had like an archaic System that just worked right like levies and pull is no you know, I mean like they had like full electronics and like I never Never said that never consider right right you think we're we have to be at the best we have to be instead of The way they move things they move things that were Thousands of pounds.

3:28:03It's crazy through the mountains if another 500 years passed from here How much technology will this if that all gets wiped out? It'll get started over and will be at our level and be like well they were best events I'm the same way as you it's like doesn't make sense exactly so you have because you think of like everything Carrying Iraq right yeah If we just had to live from now on the human race evolves from the the genes of the preppers If that's it preppers people that are fucking bonkers and they're fucking backyards and canned peaches and that fucking You know that who's that that religious guy that sells Survival food on TV, you know those that they have Jim Baker.

3:28:45Oh, yeah, yeah bucket buckets buckets of survival food you could use this as a stand for your table They're eating at the dinner table with like buckets of survival food at the time bucket prep. Yeah, yeah If you know if you're one of those dudes man, and that's all that lives Yeah, these survival pro. I mean how long would it take one of these dollars in the crowd look at these dull -minded gray -brained people Look at what are these with the chance that those people get to invent the fucking As a joke if I like if I dropped off in the middle of woods with a hatchet how long so you could send me an email?

3:29:19Yeah, it'll be millions of years if you had access to all the tools that people have ever created. Yeah Look at that stuff Where is that the Jamie you dipped at the unfinished obelisk like in theory they would have raised it up Taken it out somehow so there was an obelisk they cut into the stone And they have the technology to not only cut that but unfortunately some of that stone would crack and they would have to abandon it But they have to pick it up and move it 100s of miles Wow, and they did it routinely. There's no way to like Grasp that unless you think the technology was other level like not only that dude There's a lot of evidence that even the great pyramid is a more recent creation to some of the older kingdom work The deeper they go into the sand on some of the structures they'll find like as they they start excavating that there's another Structure underneath it and then they uncover that and the older they uncover them It seems like the larger the stones were the more complex the systems were It's why you'll shit man these people were doing something a long fucking time ago And if you listen to guys like Robert Chock who's a geologist from Boston University He studied the erosion marks on the outside of the temple of the Sphinx He said this is indicative of thousands of years of rainfall that created this That's is what you get these kind of fissures in the stones The only time there was rainfall in the Nile Valley was like 9 ,000 BC So you got to go back Thousands of years that predate that because you got a thousands of years of rainfall when it's a rainforest All that area like the Sahara desert used to be a fucking tropical rainforest Wow Like all this shit happened before we were fucking driving diesel trucks and yeah Colp plants the world has been in a constant state of flux forever In that area where they initially established the kingdom of Of where we were Giza was and Cairo is and all those areas that area was lush with resources That's probably why they advanced there for so long They they did some wild shit in this one area that this wild structures all over the earth that they found Nothing compares to what they did in Africa Nothing not a one thing is anything like the great pyramid of two million three hundred thousand stones Move from quarries hundreds of miles away cut in a perfect position true north -south east and west It's fucking wild what they did and I think they were probably more advanced than we are that's what I have to be I know when you go and when you see it first like yeah, no no go into Machu Picchu, you know up in the andes You're like what how do they build this up in the mountain just imagine if Everything collapse right now what people would be like 200 years from now They'd be fucking barbarians They'd be walking dead walking dead people like living in little groups and tribes trying to stay alive and eventually they would rebuild I think it would take forever and I think that's what happened you ever think about that like Like you go technology Exists with the same Things that were available like hundreds of years before thousands of years Hundreds of times same like yes, there is nothing new put here.

3:32:44We just what is what to develop a phone and every technology Based on the previous technologies someone's invented this radio way Yeah, then that civilization had never had radio you know some an event something quicker that's different But some events nuclear fission like way early And everybody's like whoa or some events cold fusion Way early you're like okay, well now we've solved this energy problem now we can move in a different direction or stops play Early yeah early that allows you to like you know all the technological stuff that has evolved is with that The theory that we're borrowing from what you've taken from Basically alien life leaving technology here or giving us hints.

3:33:27Oh Jesus. No, I think the alien technology thing is fascinating But it might be also be bullshit you always have to look at all these things that are public and that are talked about in the Pentagon releases things about Might be bullshit you always have to think it might be bullshit every time I look at any phenomenon whether it's UFOs UAPs whatever the fuck you want to call them I always say to myself if I was the military and I had some top secret drone program that moved Through a totally unique and novel propulsion system that operated on gravity and that we figured out to do this We can move it around and I would be testing and exactly the same places these people were testing They were testing and all this restricted airspace where they would run these Military drills they did it off the east coast and they did it off the west coast So where they're seeing these things is exactly where the military runs their tests.

3:34:26Oh I would assume that if I was the military that's how I would things I would hide things I would hide things by saying their UFOs and saying we have no idea what this is and if you have top secret programs Which we 100 % know they do and if you have a theory of propulsion that's based on gravity and not on igniting combustible fluids Like rocket fuel which we definitely have and they have had since though I believe the 1950s They first started theorizing about magnetic propulsion systems They probably have been developing this forever They probably been doing it in secrecy and probably China is doing it as well And the best way to hide it I would imagine would be to say that this is something from another world Also We might be visited by other worlds Also, we might be visited by things from other dimensions I think it might be all the above and I don't think you can count out any of it Just because the fact that we know there's planets if we know there's planets They're far enough away from the Sun that the water doesn't boil and nothing freezes If they're in that Goldilocks zone, maybe life can develop and we know that there's a shit load of those out there We've found a bunch of them already So if they're out there we would assume that something would be like us plus 100 years plus 500 years And they would want to go to these other planets and say look at these crazy fox with flint tools Trying to start fires by knocking sticks together And we would say let's run and leave on radio You know, that's what I think that's what they do And that's what this diandiposalco was saying about researchers were describing these crashed UFOs as donations So if I was from somewhere else Whether it was another dimension or another planet And I wanted to accelerate the technological innovation by these beings I would give them fiber optics Yeah, go figure that out Crashed this thing back engineer it figured out get your brightest minds Lock everybody down shoot everybody with a big mouth and figure out how the fucking make this How it is And I think that's what the Bob Lazzar story is all about Right I was not listening I got lost I got lost Yeah It sounds cool.

3:36:38Would you get lost? Buddy when you started with propulsion I was like It's funny I felt like I was listening to your podcast I know you should I should learn you are while it's happening I I love you I love your brain It's just tired you're gonna take a nap so I'll take a nap So now you're gonna see When is the intro chosen all about naps? Is everybody coming to show tonight? Yeah, what time are you showing? 7 o 'clock I just gotta walk the dog Yeah What time's it now? That's 643 Oh, I can't see it It's basically Let's Fucking Go Let's fucking go It's been fun Denver I'm coming first week of March Seven show at it Bray you like depressed No, not No, not No, are we gonna wear this to the shows?

3:37:25Yeah, it's worth the show Yeah, we're just gonna wear this to the show We're doing a show tonight for real Yeah It's having a clock Are you don't wanna do a show? I die so bad What are you talking about? You're perfect Comedy drunk I've never done comedy drunk Yeah, I have done comedy drunk You definitely have done comedy Come a long way to admit that past Yeah, what is this? This is a drink What is that? That is a fiddle with that That is a BAMF Ivory Handle for a 1911 Which is a type of pistol Oh, it goes in like that Yeah, you have to get it uh Fit For a 1911 Are we really doing a spot tonight?

3:38:00What is this really? Are you a professional? Uh, I am You can come and just watch us He's watching us do it That'll be fun for you I'm gonna I can't get on stage How you gonna take all that shit off In the time of the day Take a second No, can we try it I started off like John Mulaney Like very Uh, like tactile Well, you're gonna keep it on, right? No No No, I realized in taking it off I'm a different person with my short off Keep it on Keep it on Keep it on Keep it on for the show tonight Keep it on for the spot Listen Clark Kent Well, I'm gonna wear it Clark Kent, we use stupid glasses I know where you are, bitch Clark Kent was the alter ego Clark Kent, we use stupid glasses I know, it's Superman We use Superman's this real person Yeah Yeah, duh What the fuck is this guy doing Come on Don't you think I've watched the TV show Don't you think I've read the comic book Same thing with Hulk Come on, dude Yeah, what are you saying?

3:38:53Don't change I had a really good set with a suit on You already have shoulders, bro You jacked You don't even have to take your shirt off You can still kill You can kill with a suit and a tie on Yeah, stuff your shoulders I know you love that pop When you take your shirt off And it is a wild pop That's a wild pop, buddy We were watching it last The Tuesday night It's a big pop I had a last recorded uh They're like, is he gonna take a shirt off You can see there's a Is he gonna take a shirt off I remember when he wouldn't take a shirt off in the OR I can't want to take a shirt off I have no secret This is not in the OR Not in the OR What is your...

3:39:25It's you would not like it Do you do it now? She would not like it Yeah Oh, cuz you have something to eat The only one there Let's get something to eat Yeah, you don't You only want to get something to eat and go You want to get somebody to eat And go, yeah, it's 5 .45 Whatever you want I love it Let's go to adivis Let's go to adivis I love adivis I love adivis I love adivis Let's go, let's go right now Let's go, all right This podcast is over Thank you guys I love you too Listen, this has been For all these years of us doing this It's been a fucking It's been fun We've had a good time It's been a wild fun New civilizations will never have this Yeah, I mean, they're gonna lock this down You know, no network would ever allow it No fucking producers would ever bank their mortgage On this being Something They would be like, guys, guys, guys, guys Let's talk about what you said there Adivis?

3:40:11You guys have met it a lot Thanks, all right We're all adivis right now Let's go eat some steak All right I love you guys Love you guys Bye, everyone

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Bert Kreischer is a stand-up comic, podcaster, and actor. He's the host of "The Bertcast" podcast and YouTube cooking program "Something's Burning." He's also the co-host of the "2 Bears, 1 Cave" podcast with fellow comedian Tom Segura. Watch his latest special, "Bert Kreischer: Razzle Dazzle," on Netflix.  www.bertbertbert.com Tom Segura is a stand-up comic, actor, podcaster, and author. He co-hosts two podcasts, "Your Mom's House," with his wife, comic Christina Pazsitsky, and "Two Bears, One Cave," with comic Bert Kreischer. He's also the host of his own podcast, "Tom Segura en Español," and is the author of "I'd Like to Play Alone, Please: Essays." Watch his latest special, "Tom Segura: Sledgehammer," on Netflix.  www.ymhstudios.com Ari Shaffir is the host of "The Skeptic Tank" and "You Be Trippin'" podcasts. Watch his latest comedy special, "Ari Shaffir: Jew," on YouTube.  www.arishaffir.com
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