#2097 - Jeff Dye

23:41It's stronger than concrete. It's crazy. It's a crazy plant, dude. And the fact that it's illegal because it makes people happy and makes food taste better. Shut the fuck up. It's stupid. It doesn't kill anybody. Alcohols killing people every day of the week. They're dying to live or poisoning. Everyone's dying of opiates. Fentonals killing everybody. Weed kills. Nobody. I've always said the best way to get killed by weed is you take a 35 pound bag of it and drop it on your head from a CIA drug plane. That's how people die. That's how you die from weed. Shut the fuck up. He was driving from Boston, Randy Villario.

24:25He was driving from Boston with marijuana products. But it was medicine in Boston. And he's moving to LA to live. And as he's driving through Texas, he gets pulled over. So it's legal in Boston. And it's legal in LA. And it's considered medicine in these two places. But if he takes his medicine through Texas, he can't. He fell any charges. Yeah, it's schedule one. It's a real drug. It's crazy. Well, it's a dumb thing, man. Look, this is not a dumb country. We're super educated now. We have amazing access to information. This is not 1930. This is not a confusing time. This is a time where we know exactly what things do.

25:04Now, this is also important to say. Some people should not smoke weed. Some people should not eat weed. Some people should not do any psychedelics at all. Some people have mental health problems already. Some people are prone to schizophrenia. And I've seen people fucking snap from weed. I think, yes. I've seen that. I think it's important to talk about. Look, it's just on me. But I've seen people like Alex Baronson wrote this book called Tell Your Children. And it's all about, there's like a certain percentage of people that take high dose THC that experience psychotic states. This is Lady in LA who stabbed her boyfriend.

25:43A hundred and eight times off one hit. He gave her some crazy super potent weed. She went wacky, stabbed him 108 times. And the fucked up part is she only got two years probation. Yeah, that's wild. Two years probation. That's a whole different problem. That's the way they say it. That's crazy. We were just like imaginative. It was a dude. Oh, God. And his excuse was I got high. Hey, yeah. He gave me a high. I had a stab or a hundred and eight times. Like, what the fuck? You're in jail forever. Women can blame about all these social issues. There's been nowhere women crush us. Courts. Dude, in the courtroom, there's no bigger privilege than being a woman.

26:19And by the way, no one, no one gives a fuck if your wife beats you up. All right, all at all. A baseball player in the 90s Chuck Finley got beat up by his wife and he's like, I don't want to hit her back. I'm a big guy, you know. So he just called the cops. He just takes chips. Yeah, he took it. He just called the cops. But then if you read all the people comments are like, oh, come on, dude, you can't. Yeah, just let her hit you. Yeah, like, just block. Yeah, block. The problem is you should never be around anyone who wants to hit you. Whether it's a friend or whether it's a girlfriend. She never would be around a person that wants to strike you.

26:51At all, yeah. At all. That's just the rules. It's like, we all have, we all sometimes are angry. But you don't express yourself that way. Right. It's stupid. You know my favorite Joe Rogan moment? One of. What? Yeah, everybody references your podcast. People reference here, you know, the UFC. The reference here comedy. The on fear factor when that guy tried, and he goes, no, no, you're looking to hit people to that girl. Oh, yeah. And then he tried to defend his wife's honor. And he's like, you go, no, no. If you guys want to hit each other at home, you can do whatever you want. But you don't get to hit people just because you're upset.

27:26And then he tried to come to you. Yeah. And you grabbed him. Yeah. And everyone realized real quick. I mean, maybe at that time it wasn't public knowledge how trained you were at like fighting and stuff. All those grab his neck. Yeah, but it was, you shut it down quick. Yeah. No TV host has ever shut down a conflict of like that fast. Well, that guy they'd warned me about. He had a history of violence. And he had done some violent things on some other reality. It was amazing. They were like fire the security on the show. Joe's God. There was no security. That was part of the problem. That was around maniacs.

27:58That was a big show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was zero security. There was zero security. There was me and a bunch of random maniacs. They were trying to eat bull dicks. Right. And jump off building security. And some of them were super sketchy. Yeah. That guy was, that guy was, he maybe could have hit me. He was thinking about hitting me. When he got into this, his body was so tense. And he got so close to me. I was like, he could, the thing about people have to realize about getting punched. This is very important to know. Sucker punching works because your reaction time is far slower than action time.

28:34Action time is very fast. It's probably five to ten times faster than reaction time. So if I go like that and I hit you, by the time you register that I've turned my shoulders and that my fist is heading in your direction, you're hit. Right. And you're going to get knocked out. You're going to be unready for it. Your jaw is going to slide back. Your head's going to snap sideways because you're not resisting it. Yeah. Your brain is going to wash around inside your head. And you're going out unless you're a tank. You know, it's your big fucking sly goes. And then he's going to look at you. You're going to might what a fucking terrible thing you've done.

29:11And then he's going to eat you. That's why Joe Rogan says sucker punch. That's what I got from that. I got a sucker punch if I'm going to win. Well, just sucker punching is something that people do. So if someone gets that close to you, even a trained fighter has to be prepared for a sucker punch. Didn't kill Houdini? No, no. He got punched in the stomach. He had a get - But he wasn't ready. He wouldn't do it. We would let people punch him. And yeah, this guy, but I think there was something else wrong with him too. I also think he was doing a lot of weird shit. I know I'm jumping around a lot, but that's...

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32:45That's not a magic trick. That sounds like something frat guy. Like a big someone guy would say, For someone punch you. But there's like no magic to it that really work. Like if someone says kick me, there is no magic that's going to save you. There's no magic. You can't tighten up your abs and let me kick you. This is my magic trick. You're going to get really injured. You think you punch good? I'm a magician. Stupid. I'm a good job. Francis and God will deliver punching you. I'm a good job. David Blaine, he'll do seven things that you're like, this guy's a witch or a warlock or something. But then he'll be like, and now I'm going to live in a box above New York City for a month.

33:24And you're like, don't do that. That's not magic. You made me stab him with an ice pick. And he's armed. He's armed with an ice pick. I went through his arm to the other side with an ice pick. Yeah, I saw that. He did that to Ricky Gervais or something. Ricky Gervais is just like, why? That's the best answer to the most magic. Why? This is the answer to the Houdini thing. It says Friday morning, October 22nd in his dressing room at the Princess Theatre in Montreal. He was punched hard in the stomach by an excitable McGill student, Jay Gordon Whitehead, who wanted to test the theory that Houdini was capable of withstanding hard blows to the abdomen.

33:57A week later, Houdini was dead. Exciting. Is that really what killed him or was it a pen to cite us? Did you say it was a pen to cite us, Jamie, that you read that? Yeah, yeah. Great headshot. Maybe you can rupture someone's appendix with a punch. Oh, so that's how it. Inflammation of the abdominal wall, his appendix was removed, but the poison from the rupture appendix was already in his bloodstream. Jeez. Maybe, I mean, it makes sense. I know guys lose their spleens from really bad accidents. You can, you know, if your body gets damaged, they could remove your spleen. It might be like it fucks your appendix up to.

34:38It makes sense. If something's hitting it. These UFC guys, I mean, the blows they take to this kind of stuff. Dude. You get to it, custom to it. It's so normal for me to see guys fight. It's weird. It's real weird. I'm super accustomed to it. But it really is shocking. It is. If you just step back and watch like a real high level fight, the impacts of it. Terrifying. If it was dogs, it'd be illegal. Right. Like you watch UFC fight, you go, you know, we couldn't do this. If this was dogs, like, I can't believe. I can't believe what. And there's people gather around people. I'm gamblers. You know, like, yeah.

35:17And you just go, I don't think that this should be allowed, but they do it. I know. It's wild. When every now and again, you mean, it always, I'm always aware of how dangerous it is for the fighters and how wild it is to see. And, but every now and then someone will get really injured. And when I'm like, oh shit, like when Chris Wyman broke his leg, I was like, oh shit. Or an Anderson Silva. That's the one I'm thinking of. Yeah, that clean break on his shin. They both had it. Both, this is the craziest thing. It's only happened four times the UFC and two times have been with Chris Wyman. Oh, really?

35:54Crazy. I don't know how that guy is. Oh, I don't watch a lot, but I saw the Silva one and I go, he was striking him and he broke his head. Wyman was the, yeah, one I saw a lot. Wyman was UFC middleweight champion at the time. That's Wyman and he was defending his title against Anderson, who he beat in the first fight. And then Anderson just, Anderson just threw that so gross. Oh, so disgusting, dude. And he had heard it on a check earlier. Boom. Yeah, it just gave out Chris said that he checked it earlier and he thinks that it, like, check means when Anderson throws a kick, you lift up your leg and you try to get it where his shin hits the top of your, like, right below your knee.

36:34Because that's like indestructible. Oh, okay. So it's like, what's the weakest point? The middle of your shin, if it hits that top area of the knee, that top area is not, it's not giving. Yeah. Because it's reinforced, it's, it's also, it's like, you can take a shot like that or like, pretty hard. Yeah. But in the middle of the shin, you got all that crazy leverage and down there where Anderson broke his, think of how thin that is compared to the bones of the top. So something had to give. Coming up that happens all the time. Well, not all the time, but you see it, it happened. It's happening a lot more now because so much stuff is filmed.

37:07I've seen a dozen of them at least. It does happen. I used to work at this moving company. Used to be super rare. And when you work at a place like a moving company or like any of these kind of jobs where they're just higher criminals, like people with criminal records, like you want to make 20 bucks an hour, just load up this big rig with frozen groceries. I've had a lot of those jobs when I was young because I didn't go to college. And you could tell me if this is real or not, but there, you know, it's an unreliable source. But this guy's like, I used to be in the Marine Corps and they used to tell us, you know, you're going to get punched.

37:38You want to get hit in the face, you want to get hit right here. And we always picked the face. Does that make fight sense? Or is this guy just trying to be cool at the warehouse? I don't think he knows what the fuck he's talking about. Okay. Fair enough. That's what I'm saying. These guys were like, you know, Yeah, I'd take it in the gut all day long over the face. Really? Yeah, but the thing about the face is it puts you out. If someone's going to like just hit you, if like you know you're going to get hit and you get to choose where you get hit, you take it in the stomach and you prepare for it.

38:04It's still going to suck, but you could take a few. If you get punched in the face by the right guy, he told us that like blue or mine. I don't think he knows what he's talking about. I think he was trying to be a tough guy because he's just telling us. If someone hits you in the liver, like if you get a, you know, someone who's really good, you know, like Ryan Garcia, he's got this nasty liver punch. Yeah. Oh God, he hits people. They just blap, you know, like Canelo Alvarez is a wicked liver punch. When you, when you have that shot, it's like a left hook that's kind of almost partially an upper cut.

38:37You know, instead of coming, it's like a body left hook and they'll slam it right here, right here with the rib cages and the liver's right below it. Oh my goodness. It's the worst feeling. You get like electrocuted. Like your whole body shuts off. It's so crazy. It is a kill switch. It really is. And some guys are masterful at hitting that kill switch. You know the sad part about this is Joe? Yeah. I've, you know, what it's been 30 years, probably 25 years. I've been telling that story. I heard, you know, I get, if you got to pick because in the face and the thing, you take the face because this one idiot, I don't want to punch in the face.

39:13Yeah, you're going conscious. You lose your vision. Yeah, you want to be able to see. You'll recover from a body shot. You know, you, you might not recover from getting a punch in the face. Yeah. There's a lot of blood on this. Like you've seen slap fighting. They get slapped unconscious. Yeah. Just a slap. Yeah. And they're ready for it. And they're like professional slappers. Are you shocked? That's a sport? Yes. Yeah. That comes up on my Instagram things and I'm going, what are we doing? Yeah. And the UFC owns it. So it's like, I'm like, okay. And there's like big guys that like, you know, they look like my neighbor, Rick, you know, who are just like, now they're pro athletes.

39:46I do have to admit to this. I do have to admit to this. I watch those fucking clips. I'm one of those idiots. The pro athletes. He's putting Chuck on his head. He's got like rubber bands. He's doing, he looks terrible. He's training it. It looks like he's at my dive bar. The chimney sweep just gone. All right. All right. One of the dudes, they were like, what are you going to do with the money? You're going to get my wife some new titties. Yeah. That's a good answer. What's the best answer you've heard? That's the best answer. You interview all these guys after that. What's the best one? What's your family ever ask what they're going to do with their money?

40:13I know. Like, what's a thing you heard afterwards? Really? Like, oh, I like that kind of. Oh. Derek Lewis. My balls was hot. It has to be number one. It has to be number one. Derek Lewis just beats his dude and then takes his. His pants off. Okay. And he's standing in the octagon with no pants on. And I'm interviewing him. Like, Derek, congratulations. Why did you take your pants off? I'm going, my balls was hot. I got to understand, sir. I'm going to win a Derek Lewis. Derek, why did you take your pants off? My balls was hot. I just stand. I just stand. I just stand. I wasn't ready for that. I was ready for that.

40:48I was ready for it. I mean, my job there is to just kind of, you know, I'm not in any way a comedian when I'm interviewing writers. That's a completely different role. I never try to make anything funny ever. I did. My job is there is just to get out of them the best expression that they can give. They're at the start. That's it. It's just me trying to get it out of them. That's all it is. Always. So like, I've never like. Connors is pretty good too. Yeah. Connors is amazing. Go for it. Go for it. Go for it. Go for it. Go for it. Go for it. Go for it. Go for it. Go for it. I remember this. Yeah.

41:26And he was right. Oh, yeah. I'm sure you'll get your second belt. Haha. I've spent a lot of time, Joe. Slaying everybody in the company backstage. I'm starting for everybody. I really killed everyone on the roster. I just want to say from the bottom of my heart, I'd like to take this chance to apologize. Absolutely nobody. Haha. Legendary. There it is.

42:02That's pretty solid. Yeah, because that was what he envisioned. He envisioned him standing there with those two belts. And he maybe. Got it. He really did it. Like, there's something to that fucking Oprah horse shit. No, it works. Like, manifesting things. Do you remember the secret? It else. Something to that. There's something to it, but it's not guaranteed. Oh, yeah. It's just, you know, you got to believe in it. It works. Yeah. There's something to it. There's something weird to it. You carry yourself in a different way. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I've noticed that just with getting off the bottle, just my comedy's gotten better.

42:37Things like that. But it's just me knowing. Oh, I'm in my right mind now. Yeah. Yeah. I got something now to prove kind of thing. Mm -hmm. Not to make Connor Greger about myself. But just get there is a thing about. Yeah, seeing and shaking it happen. You know, like, there's something to that. It's not again. It's not guaranteed. Right. It's like, it's a part of the equation. This is what I like to think about it. It's not like you live in a land of only fate. It's not like you can just make things happen with your mind and random things don't happen to people. It's all those things. Random things do happen to people.

43:12Some people are more fortunate to people. A lot of it is luck. A lot of this whole thing is luck. The energy you put out there in the world probably has an effect on the life that you live. And if you really truly believe that you can do something and you go for it, people applaud it. They love it. They love to watch it. They love to see it. And when you make it, it gives everybody else hope that they can do it. 100%. That's the reason I like basketball. Like Jordan. Oh, I mean, we saw someone accomplish something when we go, hey, fucking, they did that thing. Yeah. What could be my thing, you know?

43:46Yeah, there's part of just seeing someone who is the best at anything or just extraordinary at anything. It makes you realize that people can do wild shit, man. And it might not be the people that you're around. It might not be the people that you surround yourself with. But just knowing that those other people are out there in the world. You know that there's a higher bar to set. Yeah. You could do it. Like, something whatever in whatever field you're doing. You watch a Mike Tyson fight from the 1980s. Just the idea that someone could be that guy. Yeah. Was so crazy. It made you think that you could get better at everything you do.

44:23When it's not like Tyson had some silver spoon. The opposite. Yeah. So for you go, look at him. You know, this kid. The opposite. Remember that I don't, I'm sure you know everything about Tyson. Mike, I tell you anything you don't know. But just I love they do that documentary. He's like, he's being so sweet about his coach and he's gone. I'm nothing. I'm like a piece of shit, you know? Yeah. And they let me live in their house and these teaching me boxing. And they're being so nice to me and these white people. And they're letting me sleep with them in the house and they're feeding me. And I'm thinking, I'm going to rob these motherfuckers.

44:54His instinct was still like, they didn't lock the house up. Like I'm like, but like, I just love that his mentality. Like they took like a straight kid. You know, it's guarding pigeons from his buddies. And he could be that. Yeah. He could be that's pretty. It's a mix. I'm never going to be a boxer, but I could go. Maybe I could do something great. Do you ever see the movie The Color Money? It's Tom Cruise and Mary Elizabeth, Master Antonio. And she plays his girlfriend. She's so fucking hot. She's so young and hot. It's with Paul Newman. I hate watching movies that are old but with hot chicks.

45:26Oh, she was so hot back. Because now I know that they're not alive no more. I think she's still alive. Well, but anyway, but pornist, she's an amazing actress too. And she played his girlfriend. And she was talking to Paul Newman. And she had this chain around her neck. And the dad was like, or Paul Newman was like, where did you get it? And she's like, oh, it came from Vincent. You know, it was Vincent's mom. It was Vincent's mom's. And then he goes, did he give it to you? She goes, no. When I was with my ex boyfriend, we stole it from his house. So she was still wearing a stolen. Tom Cruise's mom's chain that she stole from his house while they were dating.

46:10It's insane. But it was cool. It was like, whoa, just another viper's like that out there. Yeah, we can all be the viper. Like in that situation, like Tom Cruise plays his genius pool player that's probably autistic. And this is the girlfriend. And the girlfriend is just like, like a total host. Like a wrestler. Yeah, crazy. Just controlling him, steering him, you know, completely in control of Vincent. And if she like leaves the room, he panics. It's really wild. I know some women like that. Oh, yeah. They're the fun ones. This is Mary Elizabeth, Master Antonio. It's great. She is. You know, I watched, I'm going to slaughter the name, but was it Terry Bradshaw's house on Christmas?

46:57And he likes these old movies. So he puts in like, it's something like I'll see you in St. Louis or meet me in St. Louis or something. It's an older movie. And I'm there. I got like, you know, some scars and we're just watching. He falls asleep. I'm watching this movie. This kind of goes back to what I say. I like to watch old films with beautiful women like that. Because Judy Garland's on the screen. And she's just so pretty and sweet and nice. I'm falling for Judy Garland in the movie. And then I was like, I'm going to look her up. You know, see what she's, and I was like, I'm about 40 years late.

47:28And she didn't, you know, just gone, oh yeah. But that's how dumb I am. I'm getting a crush on a woman that's been gone for 30 years and also didn't age great. Well, don't you ever imagine living life back then? It's like living with children, for sure. Like people back then were like culturally. But it's kind of sweet. Yeah. Kind of sweet. I know it's a mushrooms idea. I'm a big mushroom guy, but like I always, I don't know how, when you do mushrooms, when I do mushrooms, I'm with my friends. And it's a huge, we're not, we're just in the woods, camping or something. I don't like to go to concerts.

48:04I don't want to be on mushrooms. Too much randomness. Yeah, I can't do that. No, I don't want to hit her a guy. I don't know well. I want to be around some people I love, you know, I want to be around. But I was thinking about like, in the old days, you wrote, we'd ride our horses. You know, and we'd have like a little picture of our lady back home. And we'd clean up the horses and we'd make some food and we'd whatever. And we'd go, I wonder what's going on out there. You know, what do you think's going on out there? We may have my talk about it a little, call it a night. You know, we had our responsibilities, we had our little things.

48:32Yeah. You knew your girl, and you knew some girls in town, but you knew your woman that you loved and your family. And then it's like, now, now I don't wonder what anyone's doing. Yeah. Can't even escape my ex -girlfriends' breakfast post. You know, like, like, we know it's, there's got to be some happy medium. Those guys knew nothing, kind of a sweet time. Kind of a sweet time, but which one would you choose? I won't make thinking I want that because I got now. Yeah, it's nonsense. It's like, what do you want to do? Go back to being a champ and throw shit at each other? Maybe. Because they were probably like, what are these people going to live in houses?

49:04Yeah. But maybe. You know, that was one of the things that Ginghis Khan... You crushing as a champ, Joe. I don't know if you know that. You get to be Joe Rogan of the champs. I'm pretty sure. When Ginghis Khan, like, one of his titles was he who rules and all. There's like something about felt houses. So that they had such disdain for people who lived in houses. Look at them fat cats with their houses. Yeah, they all lived in tents. They lived in felt tents. So they never had houses. They thought you were a pussy. Yeah. If you lived in a house. Yeah, you were too protected. Yeah. So like, and you think about how horrific the Mongol Empire was and what they did.

49:46I mean, the Mongols killed. Somewhere around 50 to 70 million people during Ginghis Khan's life. They reduced the population, the population, the planet by 10%. They changed the carbon footprint, dude. I think Hitler gets too much credit. That's the one everyone knows. Everyone wants to reference Hitler. Nobody's talking about Napoleon or... What about what Stalin did? Mussolini or Stalin or even the Mongol. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, those ones don't get enough kind of like... You know what I'm saying? Well, I used to have a joke about it. Like, you could be a pirate for Halloween.

50:17Like, you know, crazy it is. Like pirates are the most fucking evil creatures that ever existed. They're the most famous rapists. That's what you go. What do pirates do? Yeah. Rap and pillage. Rap is the first thing. Yeah. You can't be a... You should be able to be synonymous with the title. It's like priest -chamelister. You think about it. Don't cancel the white girl with the Indian head dress at Halloween. You should be canceling the pirates. That was not a fair comparison. There's way more pirates raped than priests. Like, probably all pirates raped. Oh, for sure. Priest that are pedophiles, it's probably only like one out of a thousand.

50:50What are you gonna do? It can't be. Romance them? You're only in town for a couple days, Joe. I gotta get this stuff. I gotta bang somebody and I gotta get on the boat. Yeah. I don't have time to take it out to dinner. Well, they just took over things and killed everybody. That's what they did. So do you think you... The fact that that's a... Prefer the old times? You know, like... No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm a realist. The old times were horrific. But you died from everything. You would have been a man of that time. Yeah, for as long as I lived, there's no way I'd be like this at 56.

51:21I would be already murdered. And it's true. Somebody would have... Somebody would have got me. I would have been ziggin' when I should have zagged. They would have caught an arrow. So you would have fun. You know why? Because I'm a talker. I'd have been the... I wouldn't have been the fight challenge guy. I'd probably... I don't know his work, man. Sometimes they just cut off one of your hands. Oh, for sure. There'd be some props. After you talk too much, I'd just cut off one of your hands. Not even kill you yet. Shut that guy up. That's what they say. Cut off your hands. They just let you know.

51:46Like, bro, this is so serious. Well, like when I watch the cowboy movies, right, I really love cowboy stuff. When I watch those, I don't identify with the lead cowboy. I don't identify with the gunslinger. You don't identify with when they go into the saloon. And the guy's like, boy, what do you have? And he's like wiping down a glass. What do you guys add? Pour the whiskey for you guys. And then when you guys start fucking shoot, I just get you. I think I'd be that guy. And they'd be like, I like Jeff Barrie. You know that he's got, you want to swing by C. Jeff? He's always got a little joke for you.

52:15He's got the whiskey in the glass. Yeah. I identify with that guy. And that guy's life's not great. No. But I think I could do that. I think I'd survive that way. That's a good way to be. That's the best job in Old West. Is the bartender, girl? Yeah. As long as nobody breaks a bottle over your head. I got no problems with anybody. You guys try to find it. Go ahead. I'll clean it up when you guys leave. Your problem being a bartender in the Old West is your little too fucking handsome. That would be a shoot. The girls would be talking to you. Oh. And then the guys would want to kill you. Did you ever work the road?

52:44I don't know much about your comedy crew before you were very successful. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I have a joke that I put in my act whenever I'm in a small town. It's just a Norfolk. And I was like, I'm looking for a Norfolk experience. You guys know what it's like. A beautiful girl will flirt with me. Her big boyfriend will beat the shit out of me. And then I'll get out of here. Like that. That's every small town. That's how it works. You know. Some girl with a, she's hot, but she's got tattoos and a zanny problem. Yeah. And then you know, you were talking to me. So maybe that would happen. Well, there's girls that likes to sick their pit bulls.

53:17Unmen. That's what it is. One of those children is a pit bull. Yeah. And they get excited. They like that. They're man. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, that's real. Yeah. Yeah. Those girls get you in trouble. There was a girl that the best sexual chemistry I've ever had with a woman. And I hate cliches. I'll tell you this last night. I don't like anything I've heard before. So you know, the old stupid, like, the crazy ones are the best sexually. Right. That's cliche socks. I know. There's nice girls that are very, you know. Yeah, exactly. So, but this girl, I hate to say it. You know, she was easily the best sexual chemistry ever.

53:50But she broke into my house. And she, you know, and she also would climb the gate in like a vagus dress. You know, I mean, she was the best sexually, but like, she was a psycho. Yeah. A crazy person. And Tony says that exotic and neurotic are closely related or not, you know, psychotic rather. Psychotic and ex... Jesus Christ. What happened to my voice? Psychotic and erotic. Right. They're completely interconnected. They flirt with that one. Yeah. They're in there together. Tony's there. Shout out to Tony. Yeah. I'm like, he's dead right. Like, there's something about like the energy that someone would have that's so unique.

54:26Yeah. And so aggressive sexually. Like, you know, like some girls just behavior. Like, you know, like, you're leaving like a complete nympho psycho and you're like, oh my God. This is wild. And when you're a young guy. A wild sexy, yeah. You're a guy, you're free. You know, you can't believe this is how... But you don't have good preservation instincts because you wouldn't be friends with a guy like that. Right. That's a crazy person. Yeah, but we do... I'm a... We talk about we like crazy people. Yeah. They're fun. Yeah. Crazy people are fun. It's a problem. It's a problem. Legitimately crazy.

54:54But it's fun. Yeah. Yeah. It makes things... It's like, how much can you control the crazy? It's like, do you have a Ferrari? Yeah. That Ferrari has 700 doors, man. You know how to drive that? Like, how much can you control that crazy? Because occasionally you're going to fucking spin out around the... The Corona... One of my best friends is a crazy person who I love them. But, you know, I can't tell you how often there's some situation where I go, hey, bud. Right. You know, we can't do that again at a comedy club, you know. But he is the guy that I promise you. Probably my only friend who, if I went to his house and goes, hey, something bad happened, we got to get rid of this body.

55:29He would just be like, all right, let's do this. Yeah. And then, I mean, he really would. And that's scary a little. Yeah, it is. But that's the kind of humans you want. Because all these rules that we have are all just created by humans. We've agreed to them as if they're unbreakable, doctrine, listen to me, and listen very carefully. If the power goes out for too long. All those rules are bullshit. And that guy who will bury a body for you is the kind of person you want on your team. 100%. The power goes out. I'm probably going to show up to your place. I got a spot for you. Be in the gym. Yeah.

56:05Can I just be in your gym? I've thought about literally setting up a ranch out here. Yeah. Specifically for if things go sideways. Yeah. Why don't you just, you're pretty set up. This place is safe. It's not that safe. Dude, if things go sideways, it's not safe anywhere. We have to understand that this society that we have that stays civil and beautiful and equitable and we have all this change that's happening in the world. This is only possible if you can get goods and services to people and if people have access to information. It is not hard to shut that off. If the power went out in this country, if someone attacked the grid and just destroyed our power grid and destroyed our satellites, if there was a coordinated effort by multiple superpowers to just destroy our satellites, destroy our grid, we would be in chaos.

57:00Query fast, yeah. Wiggly, very quickly. And then if it lasts too long and there's some sort of a hostile military takeover of the country, you're living in a totally different world than the one you live in now. Now you live in China and you never thought that was possible. You thought that you would be able to just exist here and demand universal basic income and you would have all these ideas in your head about the border walls racist and then all of a sudden you live in a world that's unrecognizable. And that's just an example of what could happen if someone acts. If a human being does something which is very similar to what other human beings are doing right now all over the world.

57:49What's happening right now in Ukraine, what's happening right now in Israel, that is human beings launching bombs at people they've never met. That's happening for sure. The idea that that is not going to happen here is just stupid. It's stupid. If you're living in Gaza right now, think about that reality. Think about the reality of where you used to sleep at night is now rubble. Everything around it is rubble. If you're lucky and you can see that because you're alive. Yeah, but some women have to deal with cat calling. Listen, it's always good to move forward. It's always good to call out bullshit, but at a certain important time you need perspective.

58:32Don't clean your bathroom while your fucking house is on fire. Figure out what the fuck we need to do to make sure we don't blow ourselves up. That's just if humans act. The real thing is stuff from somewhere else. The real thing is asteroids. That's the real one, kids. If you look at the moon, that's us. The moon is pelted by asteroids. There's craters everywhere. You look at every other planet that we can see. They can all get hit. You look at the surface of our planet. There's craters everywhere, everywhere. This fucking place gets hit a lot. I don't like to think about space for those reasons.

59:19Nobody likes to think about it. Well, because I can't control anything but me. And so if I can't even control the people in my, you know, the governor. Can't even control that guy. The space, you seem so big going like, oh, an asteroid. What are you going to do? What's the plan for an asteroid? There's no plan right now. I think they've got some theories of how to do something. But last time I spoke to someone who's an expert on the subject, he said it was about 10 years away from them being able to actually successfully divert asteroids. And then also you got a spot em' all. Some of them are coming from behind the sun and apparently the way the gravity of the sun works is it's so massive.

1:00:01It distorts the view of things that are coming from behind it. Yeah, the asteroid goes, how about a sucker punch? You know, just a sucker punch, or they won't be ready. That's what it is. That's what it is. Bro, have you ever looked at the size of our sun in comparison to Earth? Yeah. And then looked at other suns in comparison to our sun, the biggest suns that are out there. I don't know there's other suns. That's where I'm at. Shit. Educational. I don't even know there's other suns. Well, stars, other stars. Stars are suns basically. But the really big ones are bigger in proportion to like what you see Earth and the sun.

1:00:37And they see the sun and it. They're bigger than that. Like these things are so big. I hate Neil, the grass Tyson, or Neil, whatever that guy's name is. I hate you. You suck in my opinion. I think you're a bozo. But he did say a really interesting thing once where he was talking about aliens. It might have been to you. Why do you hate him? Well, he said this thing. I'll get to that and I said, okay. He said, he goes, he's talking about life on other planets and he goes, saying that there isn't life, you know, other than us is like taking a thimble of ocean water and going, look, there's no whales.

1:01:11There's no whales in here. Yeah. And it's really like that's a great analogy. Like, of course, there's life out there. Yeah, most likely there's life. So this is just somewhere. This is just on the relative sizes. Oh my god. I'm showing. So you go all the way from earth to the sun and now serious A and then look at this one. Look at pollux. And look at this one. Arcturus. Now look how much bigger they are than the earth. Look at this one. Look at that one. Aldura. Look at this guy. No, no, no, no, no, wait. Just wait. Look at this motherfucker. What's that? That's a blue hyper giant star called pistol.

1:01:50Oh, I just called God. Oh, no, look he keeps going, dude. What is this one? No, these are the stars. This is how crazy the universe is. Look at that one. Stevenson. Now no, no, no, we're not done. Look at the size. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Look at the size of a black hole. Super massive black hole. No, look at the size of this one. This is blowing my mind. Bro, there's black holes out there. The size of galaxies. Joe, if we were on mushrooms right now, I would be quiet for about four minutes after this. Just go. Oh, yeah. Can you give me four minutes to just look at your roof first? I can.

1:02:28That's insane. Dude, look at the size of these galaxies, too. 220 light years across. 1 ,862 light years across. Yes, see if that one. 54 ,000 light years across. Oh, no, no, no, no, there's us. 105 Milky Way. Oh. Do you ever been to a place where you can really see the stars at night? Yeah, that's one of my favorite things about being like. Camping? Camping out in the dish that's dark and beautiful it is. It's really beautiful. It's wild, right? When you go, that's up there all the time. Do you think aliens are looking at us going? This guy's, he's all losing his mind over a slam dunk. You know, he's gone like, they're all, everyone on this planet's going, that guy's slam dunk's the best.

1:03:16When you look at the world like the universe like that and you go all these earthlings are wearing the same shirt as that guy that dunks the best. Not the guy that survives the best, not the guy that can feed the most or is the most noble or is the most, we're all losing our mind about the guy that, you know, made the most three pointers. Well, I think it all has to do with war. That's what I think. How so? I think the desire to be good at competitive athletics is the roots of it are all in war. It all started in war. That's what I think. I'm listening. And I think that that instinct to dominate and to get better at one -on -one competition or team competition all started from tactics and strategies in war.

1:04:07And that desire, that human reward system is still in our heads. And we know that we don't want to do that anymore. So we have to find other ways of doing it. A little game. Yeah. So I think the aliens would realize, like, oh, their human reward system got hijacked for something that doesn't even matter. Right. Like I play pool, right? I love pool. But when I play it, it's like, if you watch, it's like, why do you give a fuck of the ball goes in the hole? It's a goal. It's a goal. Right. But it's this coordinated mind, effort thing that ignites that part of the brain that wants you to be good at war.

1:04:46That's why we love competition. That's why we watch, like, watch it. It's like a built -in reward system in our mind. And then also, like, if we're a society that's constantly looking to innovate, we're constantly looking for people that are pushing the boundaries of whatever they do, whether it's music, whatever they do, comedy, pushing the boundary. Like someone who's at the front of the line just out there chasing it. Because that sort of applies to society as a whole. So if someone's doing that in a very public sphere, like playing in the NFL, that's that it excites the energy of the people to do more things.

1:05:24And I think it's like a tribal reward system that's in our mind. Like a little mini. Yeah. So I think the aliens would recognize that. I hope. I think they would say this is probably a normal progression of, you know, territorial apes, then territorial apes with nuclear weapons. And then territorial apes that eventually evolve and then go out into the stars. That's probably, it's probably how it always has to happen. Neither one of them died and that one's better. Because I don't think that's a competition. I don't think you ever get the kind of innovation that you have today or that you've probably had in the past.

1:05:58I don't think you build a pyramid without competition. Well, in fact, yeah. Yeah, there's something about that aspect of the human spirit that we want to compete. We want to win. Like that, that, that fuels us in a way that like people are embarrassed by I think sometimes. It's one of the things they hate about Trump. We're winning. We're always going to win. We're winners. Yeah. We're losers. I like that a bit. They're all losers. If you read his book, I don't read any books. I listen to books. Yeah, I listen to books most of them. About 10 ,000 books a year. That's what I'm doing. John Rian.

1:06:3410 books a day. I heard this another guy who does that too. Oh, yeah. Kindred spirit. Yeah. No, so I listen to about a, I listen to one book probably every week and a half, you know, because I'll be like playing video games or driving or on an airplane or something. So I just listen to a lot of books and trying to think why I brought that up. What we were saying before the book Trump winning. Oh, yeah, Trump's book. Thank you, Jim. The art of the deal. He's always talked like that. Even before it was a president. So if you know that that's just kind of how he is, you'd have totally understood that that's how real estate guys taught my building is the best.

1:07:09And it's the biggest. Yeah. They go, it's not the biggest and they go, it's the best hotel. That's like, that's how he is. So once you know that it's, it isn't like he's lying or anything. It's just that's what he, that's how the man is from a different era. Yeah. And by the way, he was celebrated forever, forever. For him. And then they turned him into a monster for the presidential campaign. Yeah. Before that, oh, they turned, he turned himself into a monster initially because he was claiming that Obama was Ken. Yeah. That was a tough hill to die on too. Like it would, here's my tip. Who gives a fuck what Patrick Dirt you're born on?

1:07:42Are we trying to pretend that he was like some embedded, it was a strange one that one. Yeah. Was he like an embedded enemy operative? Because I'm not an Obama guy. But I remember being like, I don't care where it is. It's a weird thing to care about. Like why do you care? Especially, I mean, Trump was a lifelong Democrat. Like most of his life, he was Democrat. Which is what a weird thing to care that this one guy who was, listen, put policy aside, I said, there's a thousand times I'll say it again. That's the best president we've ever had. Well, it's charming. Because he's the best representation of what we would hope.

1:08:15We would want the world to see of America. Yeah. Very highly educated, well spoken, even keeled, emotionally balanced, brilliant man. Not too black. Who was, who was, but also pulled himself up from hard times. Like single mother, very likable, very charismatic. So all those things, and you care what patch of dirty was born. What should you, you should really care? Like what are the policies? What's good, what's bad? What's good for business? What's bad for business? What's good for the, the world order, the economy? What's good for international relations? That's what you should be getting. And that's the adverse problem with Trump.

1:08:53Is that nobody's looking at the policies. They're just going unlikable, you know, talks from the hip. You know, and so like hits the reverse problem. We have a guy who I think I like, I like Trump for being America first. And I like that he's honest and unapologetic about the way he talks about other people. Like if you don't like a guy, don't like a guy, he'll tell you. But he's so unlikable. Well, that that's what works against media. Also, you got to realize that for all these years, all these years, they were pushing this bullshit about this Russia collusion. They were talking about the steel dossier.

1:09:27This fake thing that the Clinton campaign funded. They were doing all these things to demonize. At the same time, they were lying about the 100 Biden laptop. It's just you got spoon fed some bullshit, unfortunately. And on top of that, he's an easy guy to hate. So it's both of those things. He doesn't try to be, he never played the game. And so then the, yeah, he's got, you know, he's definitely got some stretches of the truth. You know if I show Rugg and you know who I try to hang out with all the time is? Who? George W. Bush. I think he a cool guy to hang out with. It might be depressed. It might be just painting, thinking about all the people that died.

1:10:04It's exact. I like the thing that he's doing. You know, just playing catch. He's thinking about a million dead Iraqis. Oh, but I mean, as a guy. That's one of those ones, dude. That's that one. Like, if I was president while the Iraq, you know, I was responsible for that and I was still alive. Heavy. I'd be like, check please. I don't want this fucking vibe on me. There's no way you're having good days. Yeah. If you're a, a, a consumable person, you think, look, we know that weapons of mass destruction shit was bullshit. Right. We know it now. It's universally accepted. Well, that's why that war was started for sure.

1:10:42And Obama, I mean, he's got a lot of deaths on his, a lot of drones. Yeah, a lot of drones. A different type of ramped up that. Yeah. He went for the number. He's scared robot. He went for the record. The sky robots with missiles were the scariest, dude. I don't know. Every Sam triply tweet that I see is a, of, you know, some robot chasing a soldier and then touching the soldier and blowing the man's and the Gary Yemen. Like a video game. Imagine being in Yemen and you're on your way to a wedding and there's a whole line of you driving towards this wedding and you're like, what are the odds? We get nuked from the sky.

1:11:16Pretty good. Pretty good. That's a scary. To be in a line of cars headed somewhere in Yemen. I just meant George W seems cool, you know, with the baseball and the cigars and the ears. I don't want to think about that part. You cousins a terrorist and he happens to be in the third car back. Can you do that? He's just here for the wedding. Don't let the cousin come. He's got metadata. You should stay home, Andre. You know, because that's what they did with some of those drone attacks. They attacked metadata. I know. So if you are. I don't want to. Metadata is this what it is. So if you are texting from a cell phone, if you're calling from a cell phone, they can locate that cell phone.

1:11:56They can triangulate the area where that cell phone is. There's been times where they just send a missile to that cell phone. Oh my God. He's in a cafe. You could be that cell phone. Your baby could be sitting in the crib playing a game on your phone. Yeah, I can. Legitimately. Yeah. And the number of people that are just innocent civilians versus the number of targets that get killed by drones is off the charts. You don't even know what your dad does for a living. You know, you don't even know what he's how he's making money. You're a baby. You're watching a YouTube video. Oh my gosh. You hit with a missile.

1:12:32Yeah. This is why America is great. Is that I don't, you know, you don't. We have the luxury of, I mean, at least I do. Yeah. I have the luxury of not thinking about that all day. Yeah. You know, the people that think about it, the drone operators. Yeah. They go through a very bizarre state of PTSD, apparently. I see if you can find anything on that because I was reading something about that. Like that's a weird PTSD that a drone operator's to be separated from it. Well, dude, it's like playing Call of Duty all day, but you're really killing people. Yeah. People are really done. I had a guy watching on a screen.

1:13:04I don't think he would want me to say his name. I won't say something. So, but he was like, I'm Joe, I'm at this guy for, I'm pretty good at making friends pretty quick. I'm just chatting him up at the bar in San Diego. Military guy, he's all jacked. He just seems like a cool guy. He's like, oh, I know your comedy man, your friends with Josh and blah, blah, blah. So I just chop it up with him. I'm probably talking to this guy for minimum five minutes. And I go, what do you do, man? He's like, oh, I'm in the military and I was like, you know, San Diego. So I go, oh, no, thanks for your service.

1:13:33I do the whole thing. I go, do you want to see? I'm like, yeah, yeah, I didn't think anything of it. He pulls up on his phone a drone attack that he did. And it looks like a video game to the, that's the only context I have is of what a video game would look like. And there's a guy here, a guy here, a guy here. And he gets the one guy, the two guys run away. And then a dog was like, right next to the guy, the dog's fine too. And he was gone and see that. Got that guy. And even the dog lived. And those two guys next to him, I got him. And in my, but I've never seen anything like this in my life.

1:14:05And I look at this guy and I go, wait, wait, that guy's dead now. He goes, yeah, that was, I did that. Like literally like last week. And he showed it to me on his phone. He's got like a saved file to a stranger that he met five minutes ago. I don't think that's legal. Really? I bet that footage is like highly classified. Really? Yeah, I bet you can get really fucked. Well, it's good. I didn't say his name. The conclusion of a study on it done in 2021. And right here, it says, because if they admit psychological issues, they're going to prop, they could lose their job. So there's not a lot of known.

1:14:39It's like the concussion thing in the NFL. Yeah, like they're saying in this whole study, like they know there is something here. But because it's really hard to study and it's all secret. I mean, I think it has to be a thing. Yeah. There's no way you could be able to launch missiles out of a robot in the sky and accidentally kill 80 % civilian. It feels nothing. Yeah. What is the actual numbers of civilians killed in drone strikes? I know we've done this before, but I can never remember. But it's kind of nuts. It's not like 50 -50. Yeah, yeah. That'd be great. 50 -50 is like negotiable. A half, you know.

1:15:14The guys are really bad guys. Going to kill a million people with a nuclear bomb. We could bomb as apartment building and kill a few unfortunate folks that happen to be in the vicinity, but we have to get them. That's why it's good to be a comedian. Oh my God. The decisions I have to make. So much better. Yeah. It's so much better. But also just the thinking about, you know, because the guy that I'm referencing, he didn't make those decisions. He's been trained to do that. Yeah. Someone else has to make that decision. I just don't think he's supposed to show people that video. It was right on the ground.

1:15:46I haven't shut the fuck up about it since it happened. That was like four years ago, five years ago. I was going. I just couldn't believe it. That's what it's fucking nuts. Yeah, there's so many of those videos now. You could see so much war footage now. How do you see all this stuff? I remember a long time ago they showed you two girls one cup. And you're in red bed. But your reaction was like, and this is nothing. I've seen, you know, and then what you referenced, we all as fans go, and what is he talking about? And then we find that stuff we're going, oh, shit. Yeah. But like, what is the, I don't even know what the dark web is.

1:16:18Well, you don't have to go, I don't do that. But just on Instagram alone, every day. Yeah, yeah. This is where I was bananas now. But back then, you knew where stuff was and you were. You were the air strikes. Okay, hold on a second. US air strikes killed at least 22 ,000 civilians since 9 -11. So what is the, that's the number of people that were killed. But like, what's the percentage? Because there was a crazy percentage of casualties that were not, you know, they're just civilians. Oh, no. Right, right. But I'm saying, what is the percentage? There was a percentage number. Something nuts, like over 80 % civilian deaths.

1:16:57You think it'd be like 400, right? You go, oops, 400. Not oops, 22 ,000. The death of this year was during Trump. 2017 would at least 4 ,931 civilians were likely killed. The vast majority in coalition bombings of Iraq and Syria. However, the, going by maximum estimates, 2017 emerges as the worst year for civilians with up to 19 ,623 killed, almost all in the bombing campaign against ISIS. Death toll from US air strikes, 387 ,000 civilians were believed to have been killed by all parties during the war on terror. Wow. I take it back. I get, I get why the aliens go. Oh, I get why he likes the guy that dunks.

1:17:45Yeah. That guy didn't weigh better than this. Yeah. Yeah, unfortunately, no one can imagine a world without that stuff. That's what's crazy. If you said to people, like, what are the odds? There would be no war in five years. Everyone's going to say, fucking zero. Oh, here it is. Suggest that civilians make up between 7 .27 % and 15 .47 % of the deaths in US drone strikes in Pakistan. Hmm. This isn't just those three places. This doesn't include like Afghanistan or Iraq or Iran. I've heard it like way skewed in the other direction. I'm also under the assumption that this data isn't going to be most prevalent in a search.

1:18:25Right. But it seems like there's got to be somebody who compiled that. I'm looking, but I still like getting lost in different websites that are old from 2014 when people were talking about this a lot more.

1:18:41And there's nothing just saying the number right up front. Hmm. It's a crazy way to kill people. It really is. It's just, I mean, and ultimately, we're probably going to look at this the way we look at cannonballs. You know, like, cannonballs now are ridiculous because we have missiles. Why would use a cannonball when I could just ball reckon through? We have hypersonic missiles. Hypersonic missiles are a real thing that human beings are created. They can change direction in the air. That's amazing. You can't figure out where the fuck they're going. And by the time you do, they've already hit.

1:19:16Yeah. They go fast in the speed of sound. Imagine a cannonball coming at you. You go, you go, you're still using this? What is this? Yeah. So Murphy misfired claim that eight out of 10 US drones missed their target. Eight out of 10. I'm just saying that this is not the correct quote that he fucked up by saying that. Oh, he just made it. Well, I'm glad they made it the headline, you know. That's good for guys like me.

1:19:42Either way, civilian death toll was calculated between. So here's the other problem too that I've been told. The problem is a lot of times when they get their death numbers, they're getting them from the ground. They're getting them from people on the ground. And whether it's ISIS or whoever will exaggerate the amount of civilian deaths. Oh, okay. And so to make it look terrible, I mean, this is one of the reasons why, you know, like Hamas does things in hospitals. Yeah. You know, they just killed those guys in hospitals the other day. So don't they live under the hospitals and stuff? Or like that's where the base is.

1:20:14That's supposedly, I don't know enough to comment on that. But I do know that that's what they've always said of these guys operate in places where you can't bomb like hospitals. Yeah, it turns out that was true in this case. They killed these three guys at a hospital. It was true over a five month period in Afghanistan over a decade ago. Wow. That eight out of 10. Eight out of 10. That was accurate. So what are you getting trouble for saying it for? Because he was talking, I don't know. So what were you mad at Neil deGrasse Tyson for? I'm not mad at him. I'm annoyed that a man of science would say things like, you know, I like to get my information from smart people.

1:20:48I like to think that a guy like him, who's very smart, would say a smart thing that has no emotions linked to it. You know, like you like to think like, give me the facts. You know, give me some stuff. Which it does with a lot of things. Yeah. I used to really like him a lot. And then you'll say something like, you know, someone will say, well, like biologically, we have a male and a female has chromosomes, different chromosomes than a man. You can look at the bones of a man and a bones of a female and despite what's going on in your emotions and in your soul or spirit or whatever we want to label it, if we're just talking about the biological makeup of something, we can put them into two categories.

1:21:26Yes. Forget what your spirit is or your essence or how you feel. If we're just looking at the meat and bones and cells and chromosomes of something, we can make biological arguments that there is a male and a female. And then his argument goes, why do you care? What do you mean why do I care? You're the man of science. You should tell me that that should be your argument is that with we're just looking at biology and not the spirit of someone or whatever, the feelings. And instead his argument is, why do you care? I care. You know, I want you to tell people facts about things scientifically, not just go, what does it matter?

1:22:04You go, well, when you go on about the cosmos, what people don't go, why do you care? We care. You're like, that's not a good scientific argument for things and he's really jump ship on science as a science guy. Yeah, it's bizarre, but it's a mind virus. And it's a mind virus that demands compliance. You have to comply to this ridiculous new ideology. And a part of that, and this is where it really annoyed me about his argument, was that that should apply somehow to sports. Oh, yeah. And this is where this is going. This is why it's so crazy. That is absolutely insane. That's absolutely insane.

1:22:43This is not saying that people shouldn't be allowed to be transgender, of course they should. Yeah, we can treat them nice, but then also have facts, but you cannot just say you're a woman and compete with women in sports. And if you support that, scientifically, that is untenable. Like that's just scientifically with the amount of data that we have about the differences between males and females in sports. The gap is so wide that you're going to have your outliers, their extraordinary females and your weak men and they're going to cross the line. I love to use those examples. Yeah, but those examples aren't valid, because if you take a biological male of normal athletic ability, competing against a biological female, who is elite of elite, the biological male has massive advantages, especially in things like combat sports.

1:23:30So they just passed a thing allowing biological males to identify as females and box females. That's crazy to me. And I don't know what parameters they have, you can't just be making weight, because if it's just making weight, like holy shit, are you testing testosterone levels? Are you making shit? What are you doing? Like what are you doing? You're no reason to be separated. It's so crazy to let them do this, because there are people that are legitimately transgender and they, again, should be able to do whatever they want to do. But there's also people that are out of their fucking mind. Be reasonable.

1:24:09That's all it is. And there's people that literally, if you allow them to pretend to be a woman and beat women up, they will do it. Yep. Well, it's funny. I use Brendan Shobb in the bit. I'm doing it on my special, the last cowboy. In LA, I have a bit where I talk about Fallen Fox. And I'm, because I used to be one of these guys. I'm a comedian. I want everyone to laugh. I want to be the clown. People go this. I saw the clown and made me happy. Yeah. Going to work tomorrow happy. So I used to be one of these guys that goes, I don't, you know, I don't know. Ask someone else, you know, that used to be me from Seattle going, hey, I don't know, I don't know.

1:24:44At this point, can you believe they're letting a woman fight in UFC? She's a biological male who... Wasn't the UFC. It wasn't a small... Oh, it wasn't a small organization. And I said, then I said, I saw, like, ah, you know, hey, I don't have no opinions. But then you watch it. And it's like, it's like the one girl in the car, I'm Domingo, you know. And then this, then they go versus Fallen Fox, like, ah, and I was like, oh, maybe I have some opinions. Like, I, wait, they're gonna let them fight? Like, that's when you start going, maybe I do have some and you saw the fight. Bob, Bob, I got it.

1:25:12All right, I formed a few opinions about this subject. It looked like domestic violence. It was crazy. You like that? We don't like it. We hear the voice. What the fuck? But you can't watch that. And then still be like a tepid guy who's like, oh, you know, I don't really have an opinion on this. Let them do what they want. But back then, Neil deGrasse Tyson wasn't chiming in like this. Ever. No. So this is, he got caught up in that same silly mind virus. Look, it doesn't mean you're not a compassionate person that recognizes that there's a whole wide variety of human beings that feel different than you.

1:25:46Sure. And we should be open -minded to that for sure. We should also protect women. We should protect women sports and protect women that are forced to in high school, in college, and even in some professional sports, forced to compete against people that have significant physical advantages. And I bet a lot of those people are out of their fucking minds. How about tell me what percentage of them have mental issues? What percentage of these people that are doing this have mental issues is probably a lot. And you're allowing them to get all this credit and all this extra love. Because people lean in.

1:26:21You've seen comics lean into their audience and become a different person because they develop a certain audience and they kind of, oh, this is, I'm gonna lean into that. People lean into everything. They'll lean in to being a woman. They're just decide. Look at all the love I get. You need a woman. You put the lipstick on. Oh, girl, you look so good. Thank you, baby. Yas queen. And then you're all cosplaying. And they lean into it. Well, but there's also legit trans people. Right. There's legit people that really should be a woman. Nature just fucked you. Yeah. You got to shithead hand of cards.

1:26:55I got all jumbled up or whatever it was. And you, why do you care? Oh my God. I'll tell you what, if I had a daughter that's trying to get a swimming scholarship, like then you care. Then you care. You start to say, well, I'd like someone smart and famous and someone who could be on a thing like this to maybe say these things instead of just going, well, why would you care? Some people care. There's people that care about these subjects. Ari sent me this karate fight the other day. Which is guy and a girl. It's so quick and so violent. It's so disturbing. It's so disturbing that someone let this happen in the first place.

1:27:31And I think they're both black belts. Okay. And this guy man handles this lady so quickly and so awfully, if you can't find it, I'll find it. I'm going to send it to you. Let me show you. Let me see. They're both wearing white karate geese and they're standing apart from each other. This is it. Look at this. Oh, that first one was, bro. This is like, and then you just shove one. He's a dick. He's a dick. What was the leg thing she's doing here? She just tapping. Yeah, but that last part, bitch slaps her to the ground. That's the difference to you males and females when it comes, especially to combat sports.

1:28:06It's not fair. It's, there's not a world where that's fair. Yeah, and if you do, and if you do think that this is fine, you know, let make men versus women NFL. Let's just do that. Let's do it. If you really think, you know, the men would win 60 years in a row. We'd be like, we won the championship again. The field would just be covered of broken women. Like I broke my finger. I'm waiting for trans men or trans women in the WNBA. Like when, when that starts, bro, that all of a sudden would be an exciting game. I'd watch. Yeah, we got dunks now. Not just that, but you got freaks. It's a wild freak show.

1:28:45And you know what it is? It's like seven foot dudes with lipstick on. Even if there was a woman who was so good at women's basketball, that she could compete in the NBA, I would say don't let her do it. Because. You gotta get knocked around. Yeah, because it's also like, well, that's not what we're doing here. Right. Otherwise, then the men could go play with you because they're good enough. Did you see this, I think he's a professor somewhere in Canada. He's a 50 year old man who identifies as a teenage girl. And so he's competing with teenage girls and swimming. I've not seen this. And they let him change in the same changing room.

1:29:19Yeah, those are the teenage girls. So they let this 50 year old man whip his cock out and be naked. That's wild. In the presence of teenage girls. So they had apparently they put curtains up to try to shield it. 50 year old trans swimmer shared locker room while competing against teens. The girls were terrified. And look at that crazy fuck. Yeah, this is. This is so nuts. I also like. I also like. Someone might be listening to this and go, oh, come on. This is like an isolate. Yeah, but even if it happens once, don't you think that's too much? This happens one time. This is just like the found fucks thing.

1:29:54When that happened, I was outraged. And I was like, this is ridiculous. That's a guy and people got so mad at me. And I was like, this is a wild thing to get mad at. I'm not getting mad at someone for being trans. Right. I'm getting mad at someone for lying and not saying they were trans for two fights. Two fights and look, if you're a trans woman and a biological female agrees to fight you, I feel the same way that I feel when someone's gonna ride a bull. Like I wouldn't recommend it. Oh, yeah, yeah. But if you wanna do it, I support you right to do whatever the fuck you wanna do. There's a woman who fought in the UFC, Ashley Evans Smith.

1:30:31And she actually beat found fox. Oh, okay. She beat her. She mounted her and pounded on her. But she's a really good fighter. And she made it to the UFC, where she lost to Raquel Pennington, who is the current UFC battleway champion. So she's a legit fighter. But it starts with that. And if it keeps going, if you can really, if there's enough people that promote this term, minor attracted person, that term is so crazy to me, that it almost feels like a forechan troll that just went a muck and just like free bleeding. You know, free bleeding was a forechan troll. Yeah. I think it was, right? Didn't start off as a forechan troll.

1:31:12So they decided to pretend that real feminism is just letting your vagina just leak blood into your pants and it's proudly showing off. On your chin and tear. It's ridiculous. It's the women started doing it. It's crazy. It's the women started doing it. But now imagine me going, why do you care, Joe? Yeah. So at 50 year olds change in front of a 16 year old than this. Why do you care? Why do you care? I think we should care. Yeah. If it happens even one time. Let's say it doesn't become this bigger social issue, it shouldn't happen once. Well, this is the question. Do pedophiles exist? 100%. Yes.

1:31:50Do perverts and sex offenders exist? They exist. These are real things that we know are in the human race. Yeah. If the possibility of someone that is one of those things, yeah, and all they have to do is say they're a woman, they've access to dishonesty, that's, you had a Willy Wonka golden ticket to go wherever you want. You just have to say you're a woman. You don't think that a serial pedophile would do that. If you have all the sudden, all I gotta do is lie, you can say it. You can just say I'm a woman. Yeah. Do you see the guy won the LPGA tournament? Stop. It's not an LPGA. Whatever it is.

1:32:33Yeah, I mean, it's, I'm sorry, women's golf. Yeah, it sort of matters, but that's also it was the, I was just reading about it. So this dude just decides he's a woman. Plits the skirt off. It doesn't change the appearance at all. It just murders this woman's woman's woman's woman's woman's girlfriend. No, no, no, I said it's a dangerous sign. I'm an surgery here. He had it. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, at least she's hot, you know, Haley Davidson. So you have to go through the surgery. That's the same. Wait a minute. Is that the same one? Yeah. Let me see the like of this story went back to 2022.

1:33:06I didn't know that it's been going on for a little while. I thought one just happened. This one just happened. Oh, this one just happened. This is an LPGA qualifying event. Oh, okay. That's when you get when they add the LPGA to the headline and makes more news than anything. And then next year. That's why you shouldn't believe everything you see on Instagram Reels. Yeah. That's where I'm guilty. I'll real well, here a guy tell me a thing in a warehouse 20 years ago and I'm going, is that true? That's where he always happens. So this is a, is this the first transgender woman to win golf tour? I believe so.

1:33:38It's winning a vent. Yeah. And then what happens though? By winning this event, she earns a opportunity to play more which could lead to LPGA qualifying spot. Yeah. Then she did win. Let me see. Yeah, that's the person. Yeah. There she is. Wild. Let's see your next. Let's see your next to some other gals. There you go. There you go. I think the claim also is that by after having all of the surgeries and stuff, lost 15 miles an hour on club head speed, which is a lot. Getting that back I guess, but I don't know. Yeah, well, that sounds like a lot, but also I bet. Why do you care? But don't you think it's still probably fashion the women's?

1:34:21Yeah, so that the average for a man that was saying is about 115 on the PGA tour and the average LPGA is about 95. And it doesn't say where they were before or after. Also, is that what he said or that was that what was measured? This is just average in general. It's not, you know, it's not here. You definitely lose something. If you're on estrogen and you have your testes removed, he claims. She lost 15 miles. Yeah, I thought she had her own math. Not gonna say, you're not gonna say, I have a fucking huge advantage. I've been to dude my whole life. Yeah, you're not gonna say that. They lost 15 miles an hour.

1:34:58I'm basically a woman now. I bet they love to say. I'm one that tournament just because I'm awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Courage. When I lack in head club speed, I gained in bravery. Yeah, and not having wide hips. There's a lot of things with hips, like the shape of hips. You don't generate the same amount of power. Like women kickers, there's such a vast difference between a woman kicker and a man kicker. It's kind of stunning. And I don't, I wonder if like a lot of that has to do with the shape of the hips. Because if you get a woman who is like 135 pounds and ever hit a bag, and then you have a man who's 135 pounds and hit the bag, the difference is so stark.

1:35:40Oh yeah. You're like, this is crazy because your legs are carrying around all day long. But there's a lot of other shit going on. There's tendon strength. There's bone density. There's the shape of the hips, I'm sure too. But it's also like, there's also something that happens to the human body when it evolves or it develops rather with testosterone. Like you're going to be stronger forever. Like you're never going to go back to what it would be like if you had been born a woman. Yeah. It's like taking steroids for 20 years, hardcore. Like they literally turn you into a guy. I know advantage. I'm done.

1:36:15I'm not taking steroids anymore. We're the same. That's crazy. You're cheating your whole life. Like if you got caught doing that in the UFC, you're fucking banned. You're banned for two years. And if you could caught again, I think you're banned for six years. It's something wild like that. So if you're just like taking testosterone, your whole life, your whole life, and all these other women are, you know, just fucking being normal and cheerleading and going to parties, you're being against them. It's insane. I know a girl who's a professional fuzball player, Kelsey Cook, the comedian, Chad Daniels Grofer.

1:36:48I don't know why I said that, but anyways, I love them. And she's talking about fuzball. I find it interesting because I don't know anything about fuzball. And I go, oh, this is probably one of the sports where the man can play with the women because it's fuzball. And she goes, I hate that I'm admitting this to you. Cause she knows a guy, a man's guy, and she goes, man, heaven, advantage in fuzball. And I go, even fuzball. And she goes, yes, because it's like that torque of the r... Like a man's arm versus a woman's arm. Even the arm of like a, she goes, the man can hit it harder, the spin ray.

1:37:22So even something as what we might think is a frivolous kind of thing like fuzball, even that there is just so much of a difference. How about chess? Man have an advantage in chess. Really? I did not know that. Yeah. How? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. But for whatever reason, maybe it's more men do it. I don't know what it is. Maybe it's the mind, the way the mind works. It's different, the competitive mind. Yeah. I don't know if that's actually showing it's coming from a different world. Men have a large and consistent advantage over women in spatial ability of which chess relies to a large extent.

1:37:57And this is a difference in average, not just at the high end. The male advantage is present pre -puberty. Is present across cultures and time. Another one is pool. The best professional female pool players never win male tour events. Interesting. They're allowed to enter them. Men can't enter women's events. But women enter like there's certain major events that women enter all the time, but they never win them. Well, a smart man would say, why do you care? Why do you care? Because it's a statistic and a sport I care about. It's important. I think it's interesting. Look, there's a lot of women that are really good and they can beat a lot of men.

1:38:34They beat a lot of men. But when they get to the very top, when you're playing through a pool bracket, say if there's 100 or so professionals that are in this tournament, they're playing in this double elimination bracket. So you lose once, go to the one lost side, you lose there, you're out of the tournament. So you running against killer after killer, because there's 100 professionals there. And there's a high likelihood that someone gets a bunch of good roles, you scratch on the break, a bunch of things happen, person runs out a lot, and you lose seven nothing to some person, and that person happens to be a chick.

1:39:08That's totally possible. You can lose to a woman. But over the course of the tournament, that luck will wear out and the elite male players will beat the elite female player. I don't know if you're so into pool. Where do you play pool? Like you play here, personally. Oh, you play. That's here, but also, I'll go places where I can play to Amsterdam, Billiards, when I'm in New York City. Yeah, I'll go to pool halls. Yeah, I don't want to, that's such a bar game. It is a bar game, but the type I play is like tournament professional style pool. It's different kind of pool. It's not like eight ball.

1:39:44I play mostly nine ball and 10 ball, and it's a replacement game. I have not, but it looks very difficult. It's fucking huge. The tables check in again, the balls are little, the holes are little. And it's confusing. Yeah, I don't understand it. We're in Thailand, but let's play pool. We walked over there, we're like, this is a different table here. Yeah, I don't even know what to do. I don't even know how it works. I like watching it though. It's cool when they're really good at it, because I know how hard it must be to be doing that. They used to make a shit ton of money, but there was one guy over there that was a big top guy that got busted fixing a game.

1:40:16How? They caught him on camera. They got like a hidden camera. See if you can find that story, because he was like, you like a top dog. Just put the ball in with his hand. Well, you just miss. Oh, I see. Yeah, it's not hard to do it all. Wait, what do you mean? So that's a fix a pool match. So say if I'm a gangster and you're a killer pool player, and you're going to play some guy, and I'll say Jeff Dye, I got a proposition for you. I am going to give you $100 ,000 to blow this game. So you're the favorite of the game. So maybe there's a lot of loose gambling. Yeah, I'd be good at losing. Yeah, you lose on purpose.

1:40:48Yeah, yeah, that's how it works. You can lose on purpose. So is this the story or is this the way you fix in it to win? Dennis Taylor has caught cheating. No, it's not him. What did he do? I don't know. I want to understand the game. I don't know how he could do this. Shark press guy. Yeah, they look at these guys. I wonder how he got caught cheating. Janne Million News, I figured it was it. Putting an extra red says, putting an extra red ball on the table. He just literally added a ball. That's hilarious. He glared on the table and still misses. You could do it. You a lot of climbing the table?

1:41:18I guess. And he touched the miss. Look at his goofy glasses. Are you allowed to climb on the table? This might have been a celebrity match. I feel like it's a better role. It looks like they're all laughing. Yeah, yeah. No, it's not that. It was like a bribery scheme. He was caught fixing snooker games and it became a criminal investigation because there's so many people that gamble on snooker. Sure. 10 people charged that kind of thing. Yeah, that's probably it. That's fixing scandal. Yeah. How long goes this? This last year. Oh, no, this is a new one. 10 Chinese players. Oh, wow. Listen, pool players are dirty.

1:41:53They're dirty people. Not all of them. It's about a lot of them. It's a game where dudes will dump you. If you have to have a really good relationship with your backers and you got to spread money around if you win, you got to make sure that people don't dump on you. Because if there's a lot of gambling involved, like say if you and I were in a match and we're two top players and you've got a bunch of people that are coming from fucking Cincinnati and Kansas City and Chicago, they're coming to watch this match and there might be a half a million dollars on the side. Sure. It might be more. Like it happens all the time with top place.

1:42:28John Higgins, that's the guy. Banned for six months, but cleared of match fixing. Not guilty. Hmm. Tough to prove, maybe. Isn't it where the gambling is so prevalent in sports? What did he say though? He said something like they were talking to him about fixing the game. There was a recording, right? I just saw for a look into this. He was also like a very beloved player. Interesting. But the point is that like, you know, that can cover reporter, discuss the possibility of throwing frames. Yeah. Okay. Mooney discussed the possibility of throwing frames, which is like fixing a game, like missing with the undercover reporter.

1:43:08The news of the world's Mazur Mamoud, Mamoud for weeks before the trip to Kiev. Unbeknownst to Higgins, Mooney had taken him to Kiev specifically to discuss the matter of throwing frames but had not raised the possibility of the subject might come up until minutes before the meeting started. Mill said he was unimpressed by Mooney as a witness and found much of his account highly implausible. Hmm, ruling that he should be banned from the sport for life. Woo. His lawyer said in a statement, Mr. Mooney bitterly regrets being caught up in the news of the world's entrapment and is unresolvably sorry for the impact.

1:43:46This sting, that sting had on snooker and Mr. Higgins in particular. Interesting. It is fascinating. There were some lies. How latent gambling is now, where it's like, I'm not that I'm not like an old man or anything, but I, you know, they used to act like nobody was gambling on football or their best. And now they'll just have the spreads right up on the screen. They'll just like, here's the betting line. I mean, it's pretty like, it's like weed, I guess. Like the way the government's like, we're just gonna get in on this. Yeah, you know. Well, that's the right way to do it, I'm especially in America.

1:44:23The gambling's dangerous. It's dangerous. I've seen people go fucking crazy gambling. I know people who are gambling addicts. It scares the shit out of me. But I think it should be legal. Just like I think we should be legal and I think alcohol should be legal. I think you should be able to be responsible with your own decisions and make your own choices and get your fucking shit together. The problem is not gambling. The problem is gambling addicts because I can go and gamble and I'm smart about knowing that this is very addictive and I do it and I get the fuck out of here. And it was kind of fun and then I live my life.

1:44:55You're not gonna lose your house. But I know people that gamble, Cones. I know some guys, yeah. Dana White's a maniac. Really? But Dana's not gonna lose his house, he either. So it's like, he can. Hey man, he, he's a real kid. Damn balls. I like guys like that. We went to visit him at the Red Rocks Casino. Yeah. And at one point in time, he was down $600 ,000 playing Blackjack. And he was even nervous. Really? A blackjack? When he was gambling on Blackjack? That's so weird. That shows you might have a problem. My buddy, Josh, I got, I think you have a gambling problem. He goes, no, I don't dude.

1:45:28Like you just bet four grand on women's, you know, Utah State College best could just cause it's on. And he's like, yeah, I think you got a point. Maybe I do have a problem. It's like that's like, if you're betting on this, you don't even know if these girls are good. But that makes watching a game so much better. Yeah, for sure. If you could just be reasonable about it. You know, if you bet on a game, and just bet, you know, whatever you can afford, if it's a hundred bucks, bet a hundred bucks, if it's gonna make it more exciting. For sure, yeah. And then it's, Come on you fuckers. Come on you fuckers.

1:45:57I'll pay a little, I'll pay a little to care. Yeah. And care so much more. If you have a stake in it, then you've done one. Yeah, I suck. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, If you can purchase a game they like get给我. But the extra thing, is there anything else you can do with a ticket? To create the villainy, the welcome things you buying up, the living things with you more than anything. you can get realize that if you fail for nothing, If you're not Baikai, a few hundred bucks for these cutters. You know, it's like, what's the nicest cutters for these to go?

1:46:46And I, he's like, thanks, man, hey, reads the car. Thanks, Bob, love you. And then like I go to, you know, later on I'm at the ranch, he's got this huge humidor, 40 of those cutters. He's like playing around. He's got the nicest of like everything. I've never seen nothing like this. This is wild. Yeah, that's a Calibri. It has a little cutter on the back. It's nice. Multi -purpose. You can't fly the fist though. No, you can't, right? They probably wouldn't let you. It lost a lot of torches at airports. Oh, you can't fly with a regular torch? Yeah. Or I'm hilarious. Yeah, just that. You can't. That's what the difference is.

1:47:17That a regular lighter. No idea. Maybe. Can you fly with it? No, I got it. Oh, you were about the light decided to cut. Oh, it was. I just cut it too deep. Yeah, why can you fly with a regular lighter and you can't fly with a torch? Can you fly with a regular lighter? Can you? Yeah. I think so. Yeah, Jamie says yes. I don't know. I don't think Jamie knows. I don't work at the TSA, but I don't, I've never heard of anything that got stopped before. You know, you used to drive me crazy. You're an information guy, you know, you're the, you know, you used to drive me crazy. You can't bring a pool queue.

1:47:47Is it out here? It might be out of gas. Thanks. You can't bring a pool queue on a fly, but you can bring a skateboard. I didn't know you couldn't bring a pool queue. No, no, it's a weapon. Did not know. I was like, did you know how easy you could kill someone with a skateboard? Skateboard's heavier. You could fuck somebody up with a skateboard. You can bring two lighters. Uh -huh. Zippo lighters without fuel. Don't check them. Disposable and Zippo lighters without fuel are allowed in check bags. Oh, check bags. Yeah, lighters with fuel are prohibited in check bags unless they adhere to the Department of Transportation's exemption, which allows up to two fueled lighters if properly enclosed in a DOT approved case.

1:48:28You have to put your fucking lighters in a bomb case. Yeah. How often do lighters throw them out randomly? They get $1. What was less about a big lighter just randomly lit on fire? Fucking never. More Tesla's blow up on fire than, uh, then, uh, then, yeah, I've never heard of single instance. Well, but I didn't, uh, like, I think, and I don't think you can carry it on. Maybe that's all I know. I don't check bags. I think you, I remember you used to be the case. I just thought they'd relax that. The fucking shoe thing is so stupid. I can't believe they're still doing that. One dickhead tries to blow his shoes up.

1:49:03One guy. I was, uh, I was laughing about, this is an old, current event. But when it was a new thing that we had to take our shoes off for TSA, like after 9 -11, George Bush is like, even I will be going through TSA checkpoints for Air Force one. I was like, no, not you. Fucking liar. We're just being able to trust you. That's a lie. He was gone. Even me. No, you want that so crazy. If I can't trust the president, imagine, imagine, yeah, imagine that you have to have the president checked because he might be a terrorist secretly. Having done George. That's just the visual of it. It was ridiculous.

1:49:37Yeah. Yeah. Do you see the ones that they scan your whole body, whether you see your hog and everything? Oh, no. There's some that the TSA people can literally see the size of your dick. I don't think they use them. How do I get the job of just being there? You know, do you want to see the bill? Yes. You go to see if you can find that because they show the images of what it looks like for a human. So you don't see their face, but you see their dick. Oh, wow. How crazy is that? Uh, I got to see a billburbit in real life. Look at that. Oh, yeah, that is weird. See the man's dick. Yeah, that's me actually.

1:50:06Crazy. Yeah, that's weird. Crazy. So I was at LAX. This is years ago and it's when the big scan, the thing went around your body. And I see Bill and he's at CSA and I've known him for, I've known of him and he's known of me since like 2008. He played Giggles' comic club in Seattle when I was like a young comic. I go, hey, Bill, he's like, hey, Jeff. And he's like, clearly irritable. And he's like, he's just waiting at the side and I'm going to the thing and a guy comes over to him and he goes, hey, if I could just get you to stand over here next to the machine because he was refusing the big scan around thing.

1:50:40And he's like, yeah, no, I know you don't want to do the machine, but just stand. He goes, what kind of defeats the purpose to go stand by the fucking machine? You know, like he's like, that's the machine. I don't want to be it now. You want me to stand by it, but I got to watch the whole thing happen. I'm kind of like, this is like a billburbit in real life. Getting to watch it happen. I'm sure he's going to talk about this like on stage. It's kind of fun to like just kind of see a bit formulate. Yeah, Ari used to do that too. He made them all check him down. He refused it. Yeah, he would not go through the machine.

1:51:10I mean, I don't think it's great for you. It's not. It can't be. And we fly all the time. It can't be good for you. If you're doing it three or four times a week, I think the radio one is different. The one they do now is not an X -ray. I don't know what I don't know what it used to be. What did it used to be? Like, what was the original ones? Metal. The thing about those kind of things is they really don't know how bad they are for you until it's too late. Sure. Yeah, we want to know. Until 10 years down the line, you realize like, oh, that stuff kills you. Well, cigarettes was like on, you know, doctors would be like a calmer.

1:51:43When I'm a millimeter wave, I've never really. Millimeter wave unit. Hard. Millimeter wave body scanner was developed. The Pacific Northwest National Laboratory. So what's the dangers? Privacy concerns. That's because you can see your painter. It's possible health effects. Here we go. Millimeter wavelength radiation is the subject to subset of the microwave radio frequency spectrum, even at its high energy end. It is still more than three orders of magnitude lower in energy than its nearest radio toxic neighbor ultraviolet in the electromagnetic spectrum. As such, millimeter wave radiation is non ionizing and incapable of causing cancers by radio lactic DNA bound cleavage due to the shallow penetration depth of millimeter waves into tissue, typically less than one millimeter acute biological effects of irradiation are localized in the epidermal and dermal layers and manifest primarily as thermal effects.

1:52:45There's no clear evidence to date of harmful effects of the vaccine. I'm sorry. I mean, other than those caused by local. Localized heating and ensuing chemical changes. Yeah. And maybe. And the funny one. Maybe. Yeah, maybe. Hopefully, hopefully it doesn't hurt you. Sounds like they think it doesn't. But what did they use to use? A lot of words. What was the original one? Were the original TSA radiation machines? I mean, I think it was just a metal detector, right? I mean, they were just like. I got our ex. Bro, have you ever seen the hands of the X -ray technicians from back in the day? Oh, yeah, just from operating it?

1:53:26No, they, yeah, the the the women used to run it. So back then when you were an X -ray technician, you'd have to test the X -ray to make sure it's calibrated, make sure it's working right. So the way they would do, they would X -ray their own hand. Oh my gosh. Yeah, with no. And then time over time. They did it a lot. They did it a lot. They got little fingernails are falling off. Like, look at that. Oh my gosh. Yeah, hand of an X -ray technician at the Royal London Hospital showing damage of radiation exposure. So this is from 1900. Why does it say, oh, I see. Bro, they didn't know any better.

1:54:00Right. That'll be us someday with something cell phones or. Have you ever seen those, um, something those ladies that used to put loom on watches? Uh, no, you know, when you, when you, you know, cyanide is used for that, right? No, no, no, no. It's, uh, it's radioactive. Oh, I think it's, um, radium, right? Another called the radium girls. Yeah. So they sound hot. They're using it in tubes. So what happened was these women, they would lick their paintbrush, you know, because you lick your paintbrush sometimes. And they would lick their paintbrush to try to form a better tips. They could do it better.

1:54:39And every time they did it, they got radium in their mouth. Oh my gosh. And they would get horrible cancers and they're fucking, you know, a lot of them died like, see that image of that lady where her jaw was rotting off? Oh yeah. Yeah. That's from radium. This from my girls who licked radioactive paint. You just remind me of the funniest thing I've ever seen on morning television. What? Yeah. So, you know, when you have to play a common club, sometimes they, this remind me of it. Okay. Jai, you know, I'm like, you know, in the mornings, they make you do these morning television sometimes to go promote.

1:55:10And no, it never brings anyone to the club. Right. And morning TV is so corny. Everything they say is like, you know, you'll be, they're like, we got funny guy Jeff Dye here. And then you say something really vanilla. And they're like, whoa, like they're always so, so easy to offend the morning. Oh yeah. Show people. So you're, it sucks. It's a terrible thing we have to do. And so they, I'm waiting. I'm a hungover. I've got like sunglass. I'm just like a gambler. I have to do this stupid show, you know. And they cut to a thing. So I'm watching on the TV what the morning things is in San Francisco.

1:55:38And they cut to like these art vendors that are out on the side of the, the thing. And she's like, I'm here with a local San Francisco artist, probably he's glass blower. And he's got all of his like glass blowing things behind him. It's a funny thing I've ever seen on mornings television. Lady goes, she goes, isn't it true that glass blowing is like really hard on your lungs? And it's hard on your vision. And it's very dangerous. It takes years off of your life. And this guy without missing a beat, he goes, yeah, but to die a little sooner, to put my ardent to the world is worth it. It's like, wow, that's beautiful, right?

1:56:09That's like really beautiful. And then she goes, what do you make? He's like mostly bongs and dildos. And she's like, back to you in the studio, it was the funniest. Like he went from being profound to just drop in. Oh, he's hard for his bongs and dildos. But just the idea of saying that to die sooner, that's hilarious. Yeah, it was a beautiful one to punch if I just have my art in the world. Bongs and dildos. That's like a dude from a movie. Like he probably heard something like that in a movie. It's like super profound. I think these poor girls are going, yeah, but you know, I painted a lot of clocks.

1:56:47Yeah, no one told them either. I think that radium that loom on clocks and watches, it was like, no, what have you ever done that before? Was it like glow in the dark or something? Yeah, it goes in the dark. They do it now in glass tubes. So like if you get a tactical watch, that's like, it could examples marathon. Marathon makes these like military grade tactical watches that are like super durable. And they have radium tubes in it. So no matter what time of night in his pitch blackness, you look down at that watch. And it doesn't have to be glowing in the dark. It just glows. It's lit up. So like, like loom on a regular watch, like when it has a loom painted into it, what happens is when you're in the sunlight and in the, you know, flashlights and, you know, and studio lighting and whatever fluorescent lighting, it charges that paint.

1:57:38And so then when you go in the dark, then it glows and it glows for like a little while, like a few hours maybe. This shit never goes out. But it's these little glass tubes. So you can find like what's there? What's that called? Marathon watch. I think it's radium. Radium. I think it's that same radioactive shit. It's just in a gas form that's encased in a tube. And I think it has a half life of 20 years. So I think it glows for 20 years on your wrist. It's pretty sweet. No wonder it's a jacking up their chins and noses and stuff. Oh, dude. It has to, it has to wreck havoc if you're licking that thing every day.

1:58:11Like that is just some fucking nuclear space dust. One of the articles I was just reading about it said that they liked it so much. They would also painting it on their face fingernails. Oh gosh. Oh god damn it. Yeah, they're like, I get free radium at work. I don't, I make up anymore in their fucking eyes. Yeah, they go, look at my, isn't it funny? I have so much radium. I made it eyeliner. Show me a marathon watch. That's just trying to find, I don't know. I couldn't find that. Marathon divers watch. Loom. Just write divers watch. You have a big watch, I noticed last night. This is just, this is a digital watch.

1:58:47So that's what it looks like. And then we see it at nighttime. That's what it looks like. So it's always lit. It's pretty fucking dope. I think I actually, I don't think I've owned one, but I've seen that for sure. It's just, I love those things. I love watch. And there's another company called Ball, B -A -L -L. And they make way cooler looking watches. Like this, like the marathon watch is like tactical, military style watch, but ball watches, they make these killer dress watches. But that's all got the loom too. So that looks like that. And that's great. Oh yeah, and it's a dope watch. Yeah, like how cool that looks.

1:59:22Ooh, it's, yeah, and it's also radioactive. Do do do do. But apparently it's completely, it's encased. You have no fear of it hurting you. And if it breaks, it just dissipates in the atmosphere. It breaks, you lick it a bunch. Just sniff it. Just sniff it and get superpowers. Hey, my tongue's glowing. Yeah, I can see through walls. I know things now. Free radio. You were telling me you're a big foot guy. Big, big foot guy. Tell me about this. Here's the problem. You grew up in an area. Yeah. You're in the Pacific Northwest. That's big foot country. That is. I think that's the only reason I'm so into it.

1:59:53Yeah. Also, here's the thing you gotta know about talking about me. It's not ever funny. And it's not, it's just, it's something I like so much that it ends up me giving you the same arguments. You've heard a billion times. Yes. Oh, it's gigantic. A pithic is. Came over the engine plane. It's a bipedal prominent. It's just, you know, uh, and then at the end, and everyone, my friends have experienced it. Harlan Williams just experienced it when I was on his podcast. Anytime I talk about big foot, it ends up with me just going, please, Joe, can you just say it's maybe a possibility? Like that's always ends up being.

2:00:25You said it's, I remember you one time going, there's nothing out there. Yeah. Didn't you say that about a big foot? I just don't see it. That's why I don't believe in it. Some hunters do. No, not many. People that see it are usually loggers, hunters, natives, people that are out of the world. There's another problem. Another problem is dusk. You see things at dusk or at dawn. It's very confusing. Bears walk on two legs all the time. I have personally watched bears. Walk on two legs. And if I didn't know any better, and if it was a dark environment, like it was dusk, you know, barely can see, I would think it's big foot.

2:01:02Right. Yeah. But I do think big foot existed. Yeah. There's the some insane number of Native American words for big foot. Sasquatch is just one of them. There's a bunch of them. There's a bunch of Native American words for this one animal that's fake. But all the other words they have are for real animals. They don't have a bunch of dragons. They don't have like mythical creatures in Native American mythology. But they do have this one giant man thing that definitely existed. At some point, at 100 percent, Gigantopithecus was a real animal. It was eight to ten feet tall, bipedal hominid. It was a huge gorilla looking primate that died off somewhere around 100 ,000.

2:01:50But they don't know real animals. 100 ,000. Yeah, but they don't know for sure. The thing about it is it's like, if you only find fossils from 100 ,000 years ago, you could assume that that's, that this animal at least lived then. But you don't know when it went extinct. Right. You might find some new fossil like 10 years from now. They might find some new site. And wait a minute, these are 20 ,000 years old. Or these are 30 ,000 years old. Or these are 50 ,000 years old. But we either way, and anatomically identical human beings have been around for 500 ,000 plus years, maybe even more. So, or similar human beings.

2:02:24So then we definitely interact with them. Or they were around when we were around. I think there's still around. I think there's hundreds, maybe thousands of them. That's what I believe. I think they're in caves or something. Or maybe it's... You know what the problem with that is? What? They're too big. The amount of food that they would need to eat. You'd have to be grazing all day long. See, if you're... Bigfoot. Posted in the journal of zoology this month. If it's there, could it be a bear? They're saying it's black bear, American black bear. Yeah, American black bear that stands up. But is it even a little...

2:02:59No, it's a difference between a monkey and a bear. No, no, no, no, no. First of all, let me tell you something. If you're in the woods and you're in a heightened state because you're looking around, you don't know what's out there. It's a thick wood. It's weird. We're weird. And you see something. You could trick your brain. I saw squirrel and for like two or three seconds, I thought it was a wolf. Really? Yeah. Yeah. That's a wolf? That's real between here. I'm seeing something moving in between thick trees and I see gray fur. I'm like, oh my god, it's on a wolf. Yeah. Because there's wolves out there.

2:03:29Right. It was... I'm in Canada. I'm like, oh no, it's a fucking squirrel. What the fuck is wrong with me? What the fuck is wrong with me? Shoot it. Yeah. It's like people see what they want to see. Yeah. And the problem is you get something into someone's head, a mythological thing. Whether it's a UFO or whether it's Bigfoot. I think... I think the world is way more slippery than we like to think. And I think there's states of consciousness that people can achieve during high anxiety levels, definitely during the use of psychedelic drugs. Yes. Sometimes during weird states in their lives, like near death experiences, loss of a loved one, extreme emotion, a lot going on, a lot of anxiety and fear, like you would have if you were in the woods.

2:04:12Sure. And then you see a light across the sky. And light about just a meteorite. Right. But you're in the wrong's headspace to see that meteorite. And you just fucking... You just freak. You just freak. And maybe for a brief moment, you can see something that's been there all along. You know what defeated I am right now? I just want you to tell me, like, dude, there's some crazy stuff out there. I've interviewed a lot of Bigfoot people. I had one bit joke I used to do about Bigfoot. Here's what you don't find when you go looking for Bigfoot. Black people. You're more likely to find Bigfoot than you are Black people looking for Bigfoot.

2:04:48It's a bunch of unfuckable white guys out camping. That's like... That is a thing. It's a community of people that want to believe something that there's zero evidence for and they're fucking locked in. Yeah. They're hitting a tree with a stick going like, we're going to wait for a knockback and it's different Bigfoot researchers hitting a different tree talking back to them. Yeah, it's like if you go to public land, elk hunting, there's a bunch of people elk calling, you think, I heard elk. It's a dude with another guy. Two men doing elk calls. To each other. That does create literally happens.

2:05:17It does 100%. It's one of those things where I wish it was real. I wish it was Bobcat Goldway believes. Yeah, he loves it. He's all in. Did you ever watch Willow Creek? I didn't piss me off because of the end, it turns out to be, I'm going to spoil a Willow Creek. But at the end, it's just a bunch of like, hillbillies out there killing and blaming it on Bigfoot. That's like the end is like... Wait a minute. Which one are you talking about? You don't have to go to a big movie. I think that's what the end is that like, it's just some crazy people that live in the woods. It's not really a Bigfoot.

2:05:45Is that true? I think that's the end of Willow Creek. I don't remember how it ends. Because they kind of have this one kind of like, Blair Witch like shot. And it's just a bunch of, you know, mountain people. Which is the scariest thing you'll find in the woods. People. Well, that's that. People that want to be off that grid. People that documentary, Sasquatch. Do you ever see that? It's like a documentary series. Yeah, and it turns out just to be the cartel. Yeah. Blame. Not the cartel, but like weed people. Weed people killing a lot. Blameing it on a Bigfoot. Framing it to look like a Bigfoot's out there.

2:06:14Yeah. Yeah, they killed somebody. And apparently when marijuana was, you know, when they were grown it up there, these hippies started arming themselves. Yeah. And then they had rival gang wars with people that would come in and try to steal their crop. Sure. So they started shooting at each other and killing each other. Yeah. That's what that's all about. We're also like, you know, some cute girl that's like, oh, I'm going to clip weed all summer and make five grand and hang out with other potheads who like, you don't realize how terrible that job is. Well, you're involved in this illegal business.

2:06:46Yeah. And the cartels in that business. Like I had a friend who found a cartel grow operation on a ranch. Yeah, they were. It's scary. They were, he works on a ranch in California and he was doing his thing out in the ranch and he found some water piping. And he followed the water piping and, you know, it was pretty considerable distance. And they found this grow up. So this guy had diverted water or many guys. They didn't see the humans. They did it. They took their shit and then they never caught the guys. I don't think. But they would set up these camps in like, they would go to like national forests.

2:07:24Apparently it's big in Northern California where they go deep, deep, deep in the woods. They backpack in. And then they have a massive grow up in on public land. And they just get it till the time it's, you know, ready to harvest. And then they get out of there. But if someone interrupts that, if they get in the middle of that, they'll kill them. Right. Like these are cartel guys. So my friend John Norris, he's been on the podcast before. He was a game warden. And he found a creek that had been redirected. And he thought like maybe a farmer had did this. Like what's going on? Maybe someone put an illegal dam on this.

2:07:59They follow it. And they find this crazy grow up with the cartel and guns. So he winds up instead of just being a game warden. Now all of a sudden he's got a tactical team with the tacked dogs. Crazy. And they're running in fully armed to flack jackets on having gun fights with the cartel in the woods over weed. Yeah. I will say that that's like the most frustrating part about the big foot subject is you got guys like who really like, I think an ape could like a fam a pot of apes could like live out here and this thing. And so you'll start to guys like me. I'll be like, yeah, this makes good sense.

2:08:38And then they'll get like a native American to talk about it. And he'll be like, it's the magic man of the woods. And you're like, no. And like he disappears. He flies. You can stop the rain. And you're going to get this is cash dang it. We were making real good ground here. Making arguments for it to be an ape. I think the Native Americans are right. I think that's what it is. I think the paranormal woods. Yeah, I do. I think it's like, listen, if you have, listen, let's imagine that states of consciousness can interface with other things that are around us all the time that we don't necessarily see.

2:09:15Now we know that's true if you take psychedelics. And we know that psychedelics are produced in the brain. I can imagine a moment where you are in such a state that you could see something that you would not be able to see under normal conditions. It's not outside the realm of possibility. I'm not married to it, but it's not outside the realm of possibility. Now, if that is what we're seeing with UFOs, if what we're seeing is our future, is if what we're seeing with those beings is the eventual shape that human beings will take as evolution progresses. We become these genderless little spin -leaf things and giant heads, skab, flying spaceships with our minds.

2:09:56That kind of makes sense to me. If that makes sense, why wouldn't I be able to also see what we used to be or what we could have been or what other things used to live with us? And maybe it's almost like a ghost, almost like a memory that you can add to us of a different timeline, a different dimension where this thing does exist. And that's why it's so elusive and it comes and goes because it's not a real material thing. It's a construct of the human psyche, but these people that are seeing it, like they might even literally be seeing footprints. It might literally leave footprints. It might exist for brief moments.

2:10:37Makes that passing in and out of this dimension kind of thing? There's so many wacky stories about it. So then you have to apply the wacky stories to human psychology and say, okay, people are in a heightened state, they're in the woods, they're alone, they're nervous, there's cats out there and fucking bear it. Ah, so you're kind of freaking out already. You're in this like weird mind state already, where it seems like more things are possible out there because there's no one to help you. There's no city, there's no hospital. Can't call the cops on a big foot. You got no fucking cell phone signal and you're out there alone.

2:11:09Like there's so many possibilities. It's terrifying. And that, to me, makes sense. Like if there's a mindset that can be achieved, is a mind state to be achieved, where you interact with things that aren't there all the time, like UFOs. That would be when it would happen. Well, there's tons of interesting stories that you'll just read about, like a thing just walking behind the tree. But if it was a massive 10 foot thing, you probably be able to see it come out on the other side of that tree and you see a lot of those kind of, I read a lot of those kind of stories and I'm like, I don't know the heck that.

2:11:45Yeah, it could be that, but it could also be black bears. It could be that you're just seeing things so they're freaking out. Yeah. Bears freaking out, man. You see a bear in the wild, it freaks you out. And if you see a bear in between trees, you can just convince yourself that something, and then your brain plays tricks on you. The memory is a slippery bitch. Yeah, I know. Especially under heightened circumstances like that, like in the woods, your memory's weird. And it's more exciting to believe that it's real. So that's what you want to, you know, my biggest, I think what I'm holding on to so much is they're like, I think it's so boring if we just know all the stuff on our planet.

2:12:19I don't think we do. That's my point. It's way more exciting to think. Yeah, there's big foods. And there's, yeah, teradactyls is one of my favorites. Sure. Wolf, Wolfman or Dogman or Mothman or any of these kind of like exciting things. I want to believe that. You know about that, Hobbit man that they found that Island of Flores. No. Hobbit man. Yeah, this is a good one for you. This is a thing that absolutely lived alongside people. And I think they, they don't know the timeline of this fucker either. But they think it might have been as recently as like 50 ,000, 30 ,000 years ago. And they were little tiny people.

2:12:55Three foot tall, like almost like ape like creatures. That's what they look like. Oh, yeah, see? Like a little baby big food. Yeah, well, like little Hobbits man. And they lived on this island. And they were like a different branch of the human chain that lived alongside Homo sapiens. Yeah, see that? You just think you see a juvenile big foot or something. Well, there's people that have cited these things in other parts of the world still to this day. They still claim that they exist. You seen that video recently where it's like these guys, I'm going to make up a place, but it's someplace like, but not necessarily Thailand.

2:13:30And they're on these motorcycles. And this little man comes out with like a spear and then they chase it into the high grass. What runs across the road, right? Doesn't look like run across the road. Well, it has a spear because it's kind of startled by their motorcycles. And then they're going, wow, wow, they kind of chase it down this little trail. But then this is it. Yeah, this little guy, like a tiny person. Yeah. And then it runs into the grass and they lose it. But it's tiny little guy. Yeah. And he's got like some sort of spear. Do you see a spear? You'll see it in the very beginning before, because one guy gets off his bike in the very beginning.

2:14:04When it first comes out, it has like a little spear. Maybe even before this. So they're riding the bike. I think this video will replace itself a lot. Oh, sorry. It's like on loop. Oh, okay. Yeah, so this one they chase him into the grass. This is when they lose them. They pop around looking for it. But they see him again. No, no, this is where they, when they first stumble upon him, he has like a spray here. There you go. He's holding something. I mean, whether I get, if this is a real video, it definitely looks like there's something in the sand. There you go. Yeah, it's like dragging something.

2:14:36Jamie, does that look real to you? You're good at this. Let me see it. Let it go again. I'd first, first, send it to him. No, that's not real.

2:14:53And that guy dumps because he's like, what the hell? First instinct says this is someone in that side of the world playing around with computer graphics. And that's just a, they just shrunk a person. Hmm. But that's just being cynical. Right. And that seems the most likely scenario. I would like to hear their voices. Are they speaking in English? This no sound doesn't seem like. Yeah. On this one, probably. I've heard it before, but it just sounds like a lot of motorcycles. Yeah. It's like, I don't know. Because they're all on motorcycles. It's like a 12 year old GoPro video. So the thing about that is fascinating.

2:15:28Because you're dealing with insane jungle, like insane dense terrain. There's a, where the orange pendant is, where do they think that thing exists? It's like Vietnam and some other area. But it just, if the island of Flores had these creatures on them, like the idea that there would be just a small population of them that still existed, that seems to me to be more likely than Bigfoot. Yeah. Because that one gets slits in the lot. And that looks, the lighting on it is so strange to me. Yeah. That looks unnatural. It definitely looks weird. But also the, everything's color. Everything's color. It's thumbnail.

2:16:05Yeah, definitely. Because I watch these, uh, Sir Spoon. It looks like group. It looks like a version of groups. Right, but everything looks blurry there. The motorcycle looks like shit. Everything is fucked up. And on, on all these like videos like this, when you try to get it, you should have click on it. They doctor the thumbnail up so that you'll click on it. Yeah. Yeah. That looks jazzed up, right? Right. But that's the, so it was Indonesia. Yeah. So that's, that's where they claimed to have cited this thing. But most likely it's bullshit. You know, so many people have cell phones. Oh, that's an bullshit.

2:16:36So many people have cell phones. The idea that no one's filmed one yet. But for sure we know it did exist. And how long ago did the, uh, homo, florescensis? How long ago did that one live? They used to think it was like much more recent. I think they were thinking at one point in time. It was only 10 ,000 years ago. But I think they think it's quite a bit older than that now. 50 ,000. So here it goes. Okay. So initially thought to be only 12 ,000 years ago. However, more extensive stratigraphic and chronological work has been pushed, pushed dating of the most recent evidence of its existence back to 50 ,000 years ago.

2:17:19So that's the most recent evidence. 50 ,000 years ago. And homo, florecensis skeletal materials now dated from 60 ,000 to 100 ,000 years ago. Stone tools recovered alongside the skeletal remains were from archaeological horizons ranging from 50 ,000 to 190 ,000 years ago. That's for the stone tools. How about this? They found quite a few of them. You're out shooting these elks, right, with your bow and arrow, right? And let's say you see what you see a big foot. You go like, I had this psycho comedian on the podcast. Who believes in big foot and you got only a bit, only crap. There it is. You shooting that thing?

2:17:58No. No. No, no, no, no, no, no. Why would I do that? Because then you proved that it's... Because now if you try to tell the story if he was like, Jo, you saw him there. So what? So your sanity. I'll be fine. You know what you did? No fucking way. No fucking way. Why would you shoot? Yeah, would you kill it? Oh yeah. I'll kill it quick, dude. I would just... What if you only wound it? That's the problem. I think more likely it's going to go, you piece it and break it off. And if it is a... No, it'd have to be a mythical creature taking a good shot with an arrow. I'd try to kill it. You shoot that sucker with it.

2:18:35And then tell everybody, like you guys all said I was wrong. For cut, broad head. Yeah, look at this head. Look at his face. I bring it right here. That's what I do. I text you. I say I got to something I want to show you on the podcast. Put his big stupid head here. Dude, did you see that guy who killed his dad? Instead of his dad was a traitor. And then like put his dad's head on the table. No. Oh my god. Was this an America? Yeah. You know, you're a fucking crazy psycho militia type dude. This guy. And he looks so smiling. Oh, he's smiling. I'm proud. You want to see the video? Yeah. I think they took the video down, but I saved it.

2:19:10I'm going to send it to you, Jamie. I'll just send you the clip where the guy cuts or shows the head. Oh my goodness. So... Is the video available? I just sent it to you. It's disturbing. Don't show it on camera. But I just want you to see. Yeah. And give me some volume so you can see how casual this fucking guy is about having this guy's head. Put it... Oh my... Look at that. This is the head of Mike Moon. That's not the first one. A federal employee of over 20 years. And my father. Yikes. For eternity as a traitor to a... I don't want to listen to that. No, no, no. I want to listen to that. That's why I wanted to tell you.

2:19:48A treason and betray others occupy the lowest pits of hell for all time. The federal government of America has declared war on America's citizens and the American states. This is a guy who just beheaded his dad. He's out as far left. Woke mobs, rampage our ones prosperous cities. Okay. Kill it. I mean, that might be like a manchuring candidate thing. China might have like hypnotized that dude. Like that guy looks out of his fucking mind. And he wrote it out a little thing. He might be on like a new trial medication. He tied up his little speech. What he's going to say. I use all these buzzwords and then I'll show the head.

2:20:26Like that's the fourth take or something. His doctor prescribed a new medication called murderous polisher. Kill this. Like the way you can't. He held it up like I'm holding one of these little fish. Like, yeah, look at this. This is Gary. It's like this is the brisket we're going to cook. Here's before I show it. That's wild. This is dad's head in a plastic bag. That's so crazy. The thing is like how calm he is. When he's reading his manifesto and talking with this is my dad. He was a trader, puts it down, then just goes right back to work. Like what the fuck? Yeah, that is insane. That was interesting.

2:21:00Because you all read a thing like this soccer player came out and beheaded a referee or something like that. It's always in some sort of place. You know, you don't think that it's in like Ohio. Yeah. That was like a normal bedroom. Like you see people zoom call from. What is that guy's background? They got him, right? He's alive, right? That was a mug shot we were looking at. That was a mug shot. Jesus Christ. He didn't even fight the cops. Try to go down with the ship. What a crazy world. What a warged with at least abuse of a corpse amongst other crimes. At least abuse of a corpse. At least other crimes.

2:21:37Yeah, I think so. No, my dad was already dead. Just cut his head off. Imagine if that turns out to be the case. Dad died and said, you know what? I'm going to get some street cred. I'm going to hack it. Cut it out. I killed him and he's a traitor. Like, that's possible. Weirdest stolen valor ever. There's the strangest. One time I saw a fist fight in Seattle, Washington at this bar. And this kid just jumped up. Got this big guy, sucker punch, you know. But he knocks him out. And then fleed because he realized, oh, I'm going to get in trouble. Or maybe someone's going to beat me up and he ran from the cops.

2:22:07But we all saw the fight. So the police were like, would you recognize him if you saw him? I go, yeah, recognize. So they put me in the back of the cop car. And I'm going to drive me around and see if I could spot him. But I figured, because I'm in the back of the cop car, you know, I look like I'm a bad ass. So I kept like, when we ever we'd drive by girls like it, I put my hands like this and I'd be like kissing at the window like, you know, like, like, and they're like, oh, that guy's nuts. You know, hands him out. Stole the valor of the fight kid. But it's a good move. What a weird, that shook me a little bit.

2:22:36What is that guy's background, Jamie? He also, so they found the wife called it in. He didn't drove 100 miles and broke into a Fort Indian town gap base and stole a gun. National Pennsylvania National Guard headquarters. She was found with the gun, but he didn't resist the rest. Holy shit. I wonder if this guy, like, do you think he, he didn't before that. There was just like, he's just a guy. And then he's like, well, cut the head off. Now it's time to write. Do you think there was things leading up to that? Or is that just that's the, I would imagine there were signs. Right. 2016 as a college roommate said he thought the government was out to get him.

2:23:10Oh, paranoid kids of Francia. What do you think the rule is on? Or maybe they were out to get him. Or maybe they maybe they did mentoring. They're looking at him for a while when I heard first heard the story. They're looking at him. Yeah, we're looking at him. Yeah, we're just taking a look. We're obsessed. Maybe it's like some new MK Ultra project. I will say the signs thing. So like, let's say this kid does this, right? And then people go, oh, we looked at this. They always do those serial killers. They'll say, look, we looked at his Facebook and there were signs. And no one did anything about it.

2:23:39Right. It's because people don't want to believe that that's possible. Well, also you don't want to look for it everywhere. Maybe the guys just having a rough week. Right. Yeah, maybe he's not going to find my top of a fucking church tower with a rifle. There's a guy who I got banned from the improv in Hollywood. And it's because while he was sitting there, he's a lower level comic. So he's not like past. It's not like he would be working at the improv. But he goes, hangs out at the improv because he wants to be a successful comedian.

2:24:08I don't know. I could chalk it up to alcohol. I could check it up to like whatever these excuses are. But what he was saying was so problematic. The way he was like, you know what? It's coming. The day is coming. Oh boy. And I'll tell you what. I've killed before. Oh boy. And he's, you know, military guys used to be a military guy. And he goes, he's like kind of taunting me a little bit. Because I, you know, I went and I always just on the lineup. You know, so I'm one of the comedians that he thinks whatever. And he goes, he goes, you know, and guys like you are worth extra points. And I was like, what does that mean?

2:24:40And I said that my manager was sitting there listening to it. I go, what are you like threatening me? Like, so like, I don't understand what you're doing. Like, because I just want to be friends with everyone. You know, just trying to break bread. And he's like, he's like, no, you guys will all see. You guys will all see it, dude. It's all he's doing this kind of like cryptic. I took it as like, this is a sign. Yeah. So I told the Hollywood, I, the next day I called and say, you know, maybe don't have a guy that's bragging about how he's going to shoot up everybody eventually. Because you always hear these signs go, why didn't I do anything?

2:25:09Well, the thing about comedy is mental ill people. Yes. Sign up for open mics. Yep. All the time. So I got him banned. And then the girl bartender who works there, who's a great woman. She's really great. She's like, I can't believe you did that. He would never heard of fly. I know him really well. I go, yeah, but you might be enabling a guy like this until he pops. Yeah. Like, we always say like, why didn't you say anything? You know, like, there's signs there. I saw the signs and I told, whereas like, she's, she's to this day. She's like, I just can't believe you got it. Like, he might not have any other place to go.

2:25:41And he comes here. And he comes and ruins this place. Yeah, you don't want him doing that. I was like, I was fine with telling on him and you can't talk like that. Even if you're never going to do anything. Was it funny? No. Oh, there you go. Done by the way. Probably wasn't going to work out anyway. Probably why it was upset with you. That's what he said to me. He goes, I bet you made everybody laugh. Yeah, that's kind of the idea. Yeah. He goes, I don't even care if they laugh. I don't give a shit about any of that. And I was like, that's the little point like he was romanticizing about being the guy who doesn't.

2:26:13Well, those are those people who can't do it. Need the crowd to like him. And I was like, well, but that is the job. I want them to laugh. Yeah, it's you're in the entertainment business. It makes no sense. Like, he thinks he's better, like more cerebral because he doesn't get laughs. What people do when they don't have an option, you know, that's the only way they can find, you know, any kind of status. Their status is that they don't give a fuck. Yeah, but it's so tired. So stupid. Yeah. Of course you give a fuck. Right. Also, we don't need people that don't give fucks. Yeah. We want you to give some fucks.

2:26:44It's also, it's not powerful to not give a fuck. It's stupid. It's lazy. Yeah. Yeah, it's stupid. The image is like, what babies do? Yeah. You're trying to do something. You're involved. You're at the place of where it gets performed. You're involved. Yeah. You're involved. Did you suck at it? Right. And so you're trying to find some way to sort of make you the more, you know, whatever. And reachuous. More, someone is like cooler. Yeah. And that's all in a need to be like, we talked about a guy last night that's like, he would treat people terribly. But then when you hear him talk about people that he liked, he would say like, he was a real jerk to me.

2:27:26Yeah. See how that made you feel? That's what you do to people. Like, you think that that, you know, it makes no sense. Well, people are just trapped in their own head. Silly. So many people are not aware of how other people are perceiving them. They're trapped in their own head. And they just know what they want. And they get upset of other people are getting things. That's, it's just so toxic. It's so bad for you. But it's, I think like you can learn that are pretty low, like a pretty young age to go, do you know how, yeah, do you know how you feel when people are nice to you? That's how they're going to feel if you're nice.

2:27:56It's such a child like kindergarten lesson. And there's grown people that you have to go, you should treat people good. That's kind of the idea. I'm an artist. I'm an artist. They're artists. They're artists, man. That's how you go. You can't be an artist. You're too handsome. Yeah, you should, you should wanted them at all to not like you. Should be depressed. I mean, not depressed. No way to live. No way to live. It isn't any way to live. Yeah. That is a powerful statement to just like with people like, how you doing? I'm happy. They go, what? Yeah. What do you mean you're happy? Well, that's the really annoying thing about this perception of comedians.

2:28:33We're not supposed to be happy. So dumb. Like, says who? Right. We literally make people happy for a living. You shouldn't be enjoying yourself like, like last night hanging around the green room. That to me is like ultimate playground. Right? Everyone's just having fun and laughing. Yeah. And we're just talking shit and having a good time. And the idea that that wouldn't make you happy. Right. And then you go on stage and then people laugh. That doesn't make you happy? Yeah, yeah. You know, it's better or it's a lot better than pouring concrete for 10 hours. Yeah. Like you're at work. Yeah. And we're having fun and talking and like, yeah, I think that's why podcasts are so huge.

2:29:09By the way. Sure. Because it's the green room hang. Yes. Holding court telling stories. Get it on it. They listen to it. Yeah. And then they get inspired to kind of have those kind of conversations with their friends. Sure. If you're not around anybody interesting, it sucks. It sucks. It sucks. It's like a kind of, it's like a social starvation. Yeah. Part of you just talking with withers. Part of you that likes to have a good time and have fun with cool people. Yeah. And it's also like I love the idea that if I say something to my comedy buddies, they know me well enough to go, he's a comedian.

2:29:47Yeah. It's trying to be funny. Yeah. Dude, I say a lot of stinkers. There's going to be in the comments. You see Jeff tried to make Joe laugh right there. Yeah. But Joe knows I'm just trying to make you laugh. Listen, we don't, we have no conversation at all about what we're going to talk about. Right. Every podcast is like this. We just sit down and have a good time. Yeah. Some of them are going to like it. You take some swings. Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of how it goes. How about all of them? Also, I might say something horrific. Yeah. And you go. Yeah, that's what Jeff was just talking. That's what talking is.

2:30:12Yeah. Yeah, especially talking and thinking in public out loud. Yeah. Yeah. You bounce off each other. Right. I remember one time I said something terrible that a woman that was just walking by the car. You know, to my guy, friends who aren't comics, we're pretty like junior college at age. And my friends were like, what the fuck, dude? And I was like, I don't know, I thought it'd be funny. And they just totally didn't get it. And it was really horrific. You tried. Yeah, I tried. And but that's, I think about that moment a lot. Now that I'm with comics and I mean, these circles because they would just go, yeah, I know exactly what he's trying to do.

2:30:45I did one of those jokes five minutes ago. It's like the open mic or trying the abortion joke. Yep. You know, get it up for this. Swing, yeah. You got to learn. And one of the ways you learn is by swinging and missing. That's why a lot of comics will say, um, and I don't know, again, what name names, but they'll be like, I just went in there. I did my set and I got the fuck out of there. Barry Katz used to tell comics to do that. Don't hang around. You don't want to be in these circles, you know. What is it? And it's like, well, one, that's how you make friends. Yeah. When I love friends. And they're the friends that are going to most relate to your life.

2:31:18You were doing the same stuff. Yeah, exactly. And we're the same. We're cut from the same cloth. It's our only group. Yeah. And that's why you use those comics. If I work today in their names, they don't do podcasts. And they don't go because they've never done the hang part. Right. They've only done the jokes and the Judy Carter comedy Bible of like, you write this thing. And the so it's like, this job isn't about going up there and then leave. It's about the community of standup comedy. It's about both. And part of the enjoyment is the camaraderie. That's part of the enjoyment. Why would you want less enjoyment?

2:31:50Yeah, it's no sense. Also, like that socially, they're the most fun people to hang out with for me. So why would you want to deny yourself of the most fun people to hang out with socially? That's why it's like, I have to keep going to these meetings and stuff for like, for boo for booze. Yeah, for the drinking. And I just sit in that gun and listen to these hacks. I know some of the funniest people in the world. These guys telling me some stupid stories. Like I'm just listening to stories. I'm so judgmental of people's stories because I'm going to get out. There's no punch line here. What's the point of this story?

2:32:22Yeah. And he's like, the guy's just got a disease. You know, like he's just trying to, he has to share or whatever. But then a lot of people go up in front of those things and they learn how to stand up because they tell funny stories. Yeah. You know, it doesn't tell a funny story, Joe. Who? The mother's against drunk driving. Talking about a buzzkill, you know? Yeah, that was a good deal. I'm just watching them going on. Yeah, you don't want to be on those conversations. Bad story, Dylan. Those are bad stories. Yeah. But it is. It's just like, I've become such a snob about the company because I get to be around such funny people.

2:32:57Yeah. You know, that it's like now I'm having to listen to a girl I like's friend talk about, you know, shopping that day or so. And I'm being irritable about it like. Yeah. It's brutal. Assault on your attention span. Yeah. I'm just going to get into this. Well, you just got to filter those people out of your life. Yeah, I try. Yeah, as much as you can. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to circle tight, Joe. Sometimes you have to be around them. Yeah. Well, listen, man, it's been very fun getting to know you hanging out with you last night. It was really fun. You were very funny on stage. It was a cool hang in the green room.

2:33:27Yeah. It was great. I enjoyed talking to you, man. So tell everybody social media where they can find you website. Yeah, the, um, so all my dates will be on JeffDye .com. I literally work every week and all of her. So I'm coming to Charlotte, North folks, Han and Tony O'Dallis, Jacksonville, Orlando, Rowley. Never come off the road. I love it. I love it. I can do stand up every night five times a night. Beautiful. So that's all it JeffDye .com. I love it. And then I have a few podcasts. One's called Wrestling with Freddie, where me and Freddie Prince Jr. talk about wrestling once a week. And it's like you have C but choreographed, you know, pro wrestling.

2:34:00Yeah, pro wrestling. And then I've one called everybody's got a price. Me and Josh Nelson. We just play a simple game with our guest. Like how much to eat the hottest pepper in the world. And then the people that listen can say, I'd pay Joe Rogan whatever they make a pot of money. And then we film you doing whatever the thing is. Oh, wow. So and I guess like you who would be like, I would never do that. I have money. You can then say, I'll put this much in to watch someone do it. But anyways, so that's called everybody's got a price. Me and Josh Nelson. And then I have a podcast called JeffDye's Friendship.

2:34:31Oh, dude. It's my friend's repot cast simultaneously. Wow. I like it. It's fun. Go for it. Yeah, it's fun. Yeah, right? Like it. Beautiful. All right. Thank you very much. Thanks, friends. A lot of fun. Appreciate you, bye, everybody.