#2099 - Aaron Rodgers

25:36I'm like, all right, just take me. I didn't think it was going to be a big deal. And then they said, well, in two weeks when you're back, just come early and you come to the clinic, I said, okay, we'll do that. And then within that two weeks, you got pulled. Luckily, you know, but it's not just those two guys. I know a lot of people now, it's pretty severe vaccine injuries. So I know. And so many people have reached out to me because of what happened to me, celebrities that wanted to be quiet about it. People that are like really hesitant about talking about it openly and publicly, but they were really scared.

26:08People that have like real serious problems. I have two friends that have pacemakers now. Yeah, I remember exactly about that. They're like one of them in their 30s, right? Yeah. We said, Adentance. That's not fucking normal. No, it's not normal. It's not normal.

26:45But the first off we recorded with my last one, Lazier , Pixelist 25, I mean that you were kind of in shock that our friend that had to stay, ser Pretzah loved us. I mean I had just a couple of trip to Algonquin. But they didn't have, they were extremely uncomfortable with anything. had racked up about setting up these maioria babies. this is going to get us out of the pandemic. Because the news media was being used by these pharmaceutical drug companies to push a very specific narrative. And they didn't do any critical thinking. They didn't step outside the box. They didn't talk to any scientists that differed.

27:05They all just stuck with whatever Fouchy said, whatever the NIH said. And they also demonized people who were saying things that had been proven to be absolutely correct, like the fucking lab leak theory. If you brought up the lab leak theory, you used to get banned from YouTube. Now it's widely accepted by everyone. Every. So was all the conspiracies that got people censored and kicked off. So many of them have been proven to be true. And I agree with you. So many people thought they were doing the right thing. They thought, I'm doing my part. This is what we're supposed to do. Too we stop the spread.

27:38You know, I'm full on board. We're all together. But let's look at what happened. And people are always like, why do you keep fucking bringing up the vaccine for multiple reasons? But listen, this is a playbook that now we have. For the next time they fucking try and do this shit. Right. Don't forget about this. Don't forget about disease. Disease -ass. What is that? When was the last time they were talking about a disease that doesn't exist? That's not affecting anybody. That's literally, there's no one sick. There's no one dying. And they're talking about how it's coming. We'll just watch what Bill Gates does because the last time he invested $50 million in a company, he made a pretty good score and then he pulled all his money out.

28:14And then he started disparaging the effectiveness of the vaccine. After he pulled his money out, though. After he pulled his money out. And he also started saying that the virus wasn't as bad as we thought it was. Oh gee. How convenient. Yeah, what happened to the flu? Yeah. Flu went away. Zero cases. It's crazy. I mean, it is pretty crazy. But we cannot forget about what happened. No. Because this is what they're going to do next time. Well, the big loser in this, besides the people that lost their jobs and their businesses closed and people lost their lives. The big loser is been mainstream media.

28:51Because the trusted mainstream media is at an all time low. I mean, they're laying off journalists left and right. No one wants to read the newspaper anymore. No one believes them. CNN lost all their big hosts. It's like they lost. And they lost their streaming service? Yeah. Well, that was hilarious. They dumped money into something to get people to pay for something that no one wants for free. And it was like Anderson Cooper's book club. Like, what the fuck are you doing? If I was a shareholder in CNN. How much? Only $10 a month? I was like, what the fuck are you guys doing? Do you really think anybody's going to pay for CNN?

29:29Like, what do you offer? Nobody watches now. The Trumps and the numbers they get are so small. That's why, you know, it's platforms like this that are actually bringing the information that people want to watch. Instead of watching the fucking news, like people used to trust in you and it's six o 'clock night they news. And I'm going to get the story. You know, there's no more Walter Cronkite's out there. Right. It's long form conversations that are actually informing people on what's going on. It's that and it's people steering you to legitimate journalists that are independent. The Michael Schellenberger, the Glenn Greenwalls, the people that are experts in their field, the Bret Weinstein's, the people that actually know what they're talking about.

30:04But it's just a weird landscape that we're in now that didn't exist before, where we're absolutely sure that you can't trust the mainstream media anymore. We're absolutely sure that. And even boomers know that now. Even the people that have been trusting the mainstream media their whole life, they're like, well, they're definitely something's wrong. They don't know how to use what's wrong. They're too much wrong. Yeah, those are amazing. Those compilations. Anderson Cooper brought to you by Pfizer. That was what's in the playoff game of their day. And it said, you know, I got a football brought to you by Pfizer.

30:36I was like, yeah, I knew that. Yikes. Yeah. Well, they made a lot of money and they'd like to do that again. You know, and that's what you have to be really careful about. But what they're doing that again now with is ozempic. And they're making a shit load of money off of this drug that essentially paralyzes your fucking stomach. It slows your body's ability to digest. It causes a host of gastrointestinal issues for some people. All sorts of weird side effects. People have died taking it. And they're pushing it. And they're pushing it even on kids. It's like a primary weight loss strategy for obesity.

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34:11See how you got fat? Yeah, too many calories. This is how you gotta lose weight. So you have to have less calories in than you're burning. And you gotta exercise. And you go, how about start drinking water? Stop drinking soda. We had this chart up yesterday of how many people on food stamps by soda. Like how much of food stamps has spent on soda? It's fucking crazy. It's like poor people, just drinking poison, drinking sugary poison. Let's see, that's part of the problem, too. You look at not just what they pushed, you know, what they closed down during the lockdowns. You know, you had what was open.

34:45You had fast food restaurants. Yeah. Like you had fucking processed food places open. But the food that's actually the best for you, oftentimes is the most expensive. So you have to find a way to whether it's doing all out, you know, tariffs on certain extra taxes on certain types of products or, you know, I don't know how you're gonna change the farming system, especially with Bill Gates being one of the biggest farm landowners there. And he's pushing, you know, insects and his, what's it called, appeal, thing that he's putting on all the fruit and stuff. But the problem is that in order to eat healthier, you have to spend more money because the shitty food is the least expensive.

35:26What scares the shit out of me is what they're doing to farmers in Europe, like the Dutch farmers. Like in Ireland, they're telling farmers that they have killed cows because they have too many cows and they're contributing to the global warming. See, the guy I think he was in Congress who was interviewing somebody and asking these, you know, climate change people about how much CO2 was, you know, and they don't know. Way off. Yeah, they're way off. And they're making the decisions. And they literally are just, it's completely ideological. The ideological battle, the demon that you're fighting is climate change.

35:59And we must do something to stop climate change. Meanwhile, India and China aren't doing a fucking thing and they're contributing to most of it. Literally most of the carbon that's being released, like if you look at the amount of fucking coal plants that China has, they're opening up new ones. They have hundreds of them in construction. Wasn't that the whole point of the, was it in Paris? They had some sort of climate court. Yeah. And, but it wasn't taking effect or there was different rules for other countries, but we had to hear it as something that nobody else was adhering to. It's control.

36:32But that's what we've been doing with the last, if you look at, I saw some, you know, some on X about like what they were telling us in the 60s and the 70s and the 80s, the world was always going to end based on something, you know, and they, and now it's, it's this climate change. We got to change the, you know, the way we live in order for us to keep going. It's like they've been doing this for the last five decades. They would like to control the food system and there's a tremendous amount of money in controlling the food system. And if they could get you to only buy their food and they can convince you that their food is somehow another, it's less carbon and come up with some fucking Hollywood math that shows you that this is the only way to do it and this is the way out of this.

37:13Well, I just learned something online that if you grow your own food, actually, your carbon footprint is much greater than that. I posted that on Instagram. And he got facts check. He got fact check. Yeah, not, I don't see the fact check, but if someone goes to my page and sees that, it says something about like partially true or not. Like listen, it's a fucking article that was in whatever newspaper it was that I saw and I was like, this is hilarious. Like there to how is it even possible? How is it even possible that it emits more carbon? You're literally growing plants in the ground which take carbon dioxide and convert them to oxygen.

37:57That's all you're doing. You don't have any heavy machinery. You're growing your own food. So you just got a little garden. So you growing your own food. Don't do this. You're not doing it. I don't even know how they did the math. Like how the fuck did they even say that? What does it say if you go to my page and it says it's fact check? I don't see a fact check. Oh, it's definitely fact checked. I just checked. My wife showed it to me. I'm just saying I didn't see it. I just checked on my phone too. I don't see it. Well, maybe they took it down because people freaked out. Yeah, there it is. Five times greater.

38:25Bleh! How's it possible? You're literally growing something that takes oxygen and puts it out into the air. It converts carbon dioxide to oxygen through photosynthesis. It's literally what it does. It's literally what plants do. They make oxygen. Think about that. What if you didn't have, everybody's got lawns, right? What if you had your own fucking garden? Yeah. Like how different would things be? Well, you'd be a lot fucking healthier. You'd be a lot healthier. If you're eating stuff that doesn't have fucking, all kinds of herbicides and pesticides sprayed all over it. You know, when they've done these tests, when they check people's blood, some insane number, what is it?

39:04Like 90 something percent of people they tested had glyphosate at detectable levels. Yeah. And glyphosate's nuts. Like they fucking spray that shit on everything and it's crazy. That's really bad for you. I mean, you know who owns a monsanta, right? It's bear, right? Yeah. Bear the same people that during the Holocaust were, I mean, the Brigham talked about that on my podcast where they took these people that were in the concentration camps. They took 150 women. And they tried their drugs on them, killed them. And they said, we need more. We need more. And they sent them more. So they sent them more.

39:41So that company bear did that. Yeah, Bob was on it, which was taking a bunch of heat because they're round up as killing people. Yeah. Yeah, it's how do you change that? Well, you need a guy like Bobby Kennedy in office. Yeah, but boy, they would put him in a convertible and take him through a ride through Dallas quick. I don't know. I think at some point though, that's wouldn't that start, well, I think at some point in time people are waking, they're waking up to certain things. There's still the loudest group is not the majority. I really don't believe it. I think there's a silent majority that's like, fuck the media, legacy media lies, nonstop.

40:23Yeah. Big pharma doesn't have our best interests in mind. Politicians are all corrupted, the majority of them. Like, people are waking up, I think, slowly. It's just, they're not the loudest, like, like I was telling a friend, I said, who do you know in your life that spends their days online, trolling accounts, commenting on posts, commenting on X? Nobody. I don't know anybody like that who'd like, spends their life negative, commenting, but those are the ones that get amplified and talked about, like that's not, that's not the swath of the population that's like, the majority. That's a very unhealthy, small minority people, plus a lot of them are paid.

41:01There's a lot of them that are, whether it's from our government or other governments, much more foreign countries that are, we know that it's been documented that they have these internet troll farms, that they're specifically designed to get people upset and riled them up and get them fighting with each other. And diminish our appreciation and our respect for democracy. What was the quote you've talked about that was, what was it, 1950s, the Russian guy? Oh, Yuri Besmanoff? Yeah, 1984. Hey, oh yeah, 1984. Yeah, I think it was he too. But whatever it was, 84 sounds better, because it's perfect, Lorelia.

41:40Yeah, Yuri Besmanoff, he explained the subversion, he explained how it works. And it was a multi -decade plan, right? To slowly turn the country in. And back then it was, it looked like nonsense. Like what are you talking about? But now it absolutely, everything he said out of the 1980s has come to be true. Yeah, and the Soviet Union has done it. They did it to us. They, they fucking injected the universities with Marxism. What do you think's gonna happen with this, if Tucker really did interview Putin? I think he did. Yeah, he's over there. He's a tweet recent, something like a wide deal. It's not out though.

42:18But what's crazy is the way CNN is already trying to spin it. Like, you know, the Tucker Carl, you know, Putin's biggest fan, Tucker Carlson, a fan of Russia. You know, they're trying to spell. They're some McCarthyism tactics. Yeah, no, he's over there here, interview, push, okay, yeah. Do you know that he said that the NSA or the CIA whoever it was got into his signal account? His second, that was scary because. Yeah, that's supposed to be encrypted. Yeah. But nothing's encrypted anymore. I don't think there's a goddamn thing that you could do on your phone. Unless you have some wacky fucking crazy operating system that, you know, maybe only fucking Jeff Bezos knows.

43:00You know, I don't think you can VPN, right? That I don't think you can. I don't, I don't, I think with Pegasus, the way it was explained to me by Gavin DeBecker, who's a security expert. He's, he's awesome. Yeah. Gavin said that the first Pegasus, which they got, that's how they got all Bezos's dick picks and all that shit, all the letters to his girlfriend that apparently her brother was doing something to try blackmail Bezos, it's because he got ahold of it somehow or another. Those, that was through Pegasus. Pegasus one, he got a WhatsApp link, supposedly from MBS, from Saudi Arabia. And he got this WhatsApp link, he clicks on the link and that puts Pegasus on his phone and now they have full access to your phone.

43:43He said with Pegasus two, all he needs your number. They have your phone number, they can see everything. What? Yeah. Yeah, so I mean, I don't know how it works. So I don't know how they would be able to access your signal account and understand that. I've had the guy who created signal here and you know, he seemed to think it was pretty rock solid but that was back then. You know, it's like there's always one step ahead of this and before we know about it, there has to be some whistleblower that comes out and says, hey, the NSA can do this now. Ed Snowden tried to do that. Yeah. Yeah. My biggest problem with, with kind of a counter argument to that where a common sentiment is, why don't you have nothing to hide?

44:23It's like you're missing the fucking point. The point is that there should be some freedom of privacy. Yeah. Then not have to have fucking people looking at your shit. Yeah, it's not. And I don't care you have nothing to fucking hide. This country was founded as a constitutional republic to protect personal freedoms and I shouldn't have to worry about somebody fucking in my shit all the time. Well, that's one of the things that they did that was very insidious after 9 -11. Because after 9 -11, they passed the Patriot Act and they ended up, yeah. Oh, they had it ready because they had tried to push that before and nobody wanted it.

44:58And then when 9 -11 came around, they just rolled all those bills, everything that they wanted to do, they just chucked it into the Patriot Act. And then the Patriot Act too, which is even more draconian. And now all that stuff's in place, indefinite detention, like for people that aren't tried for anything, they could just keep you in jail forever. I mean, look what they're doing with Julian Assange. I mean, Julian Assange, he's not really tried with a crime. Like the crime was surprise sex. Like that's what they were trying to get him. Like they said that he was having sex with a woman and then without her knowing it, he didn't have the condom on.

45:33It's, and then she didn't want to press charges. Like I don't know what the extent of that case is now or what they're going after him for now, but that was what they were initially trying to get him on. Yeah, but I mean, what's his ultimate crime? His ultimate crime is letting people know that what the hell's going on. Yeah, there's a lot of, well, it was also that the collateral murder video, the people had a really hard time with that, where they gun down those reporters and then you could hear the soldiers saying, yeah, he shouldn't have kids there when they're shooting up that van. Like the whole thing is very, very difficult to watch.

46:11And it's one of the cold, hard realities of the evil that is war. And you know, you're seeing that right now, what's going on in Gaza? You're seeing the same fucking thing. You know, it's just, that's what war is. And there's people that'll justify that all day long and saying they shouldn't have done this. And you know, and that's how it goes. But man, if you live in Gaza, what the fuck do you do? Like you didn't do anything. You just got the wrong role the dice and you're stuck in this place that's controlled by Hamas with abject poverty and no sanitation. And now it's getting bombed into oblivion.

46:47I mean, the videos, we see what Gaza looked like and what it looks like now, it's fucking insane. And they're not stopping. They're not stopping. They're just gonna keep bombing it into oblivion. Some of that has to change. I mean, like there has to be something that turn, I don't know what it is. I mean, it might be the only thing. It might be. I mean, that's, it's interesting to see how much has changed. You know, in that over the last, I don't know, 15 years, just how people can talk about it now without being called crazy. There's some disclosure. I actually went back to the day I was watching an old, I think it was from 2018 or 19 when he had Bob Lazar in Jarmion.

47:31And I mean, he's been talking about this forever. Yeah. But like what, what's gonna happen with that? There's gotta be something, you know, there's been conspiracies about Project Bluebleam. And there's obviously a lot of these doms around the country where there's interesting technology and stuff. But I gotta think that something, I think this is gonna be a crazy year. I think something, especially if it gets down to it. And it looks like the Trump wave is gonna, you know, because they can't roll out weekend at Bernie's and expect him to be able to debate or actually carry conversation. That's the plan.

48:07I think the plan is you wait until it becomes extremely obvious that Biden can't do it. And then they pull them out. And I think they probably put in Gavin Newsom. That's what I hate it though. In California. Yeah, but there's enough zombies out there that'll just blue no matter who and he's our guy. They don't care. They'd be like, no one could have had, California's just the population is too high and it's like, what are you gonna do? And they'll come up with some sort of a reason and he'll move a little bit towards the middle. He'll do some common sense things and get people go, all right, I like that.

48:41And that'll be enough. Well, anyone but Trump people, you know, look at the fucking view. What'd he go for saying that he's gonna put, you might be poor and you might be saying, well, maybe Donald Trump would be better for the guy. He's gonna put you in camps. You see her saying that? No, but I'm not surprised. Put you in camps. Nobody watches it. Who watches it? Crazy old ladies. Crazy old ladies are at home right now. But instead of like, if you look at this two party system and go, who's the lesser of the two evils? I would say, how about let's fuck the two party system and let's have some more options.

49:20And one of them in my opinion is RFK, who's phenomenal. Oh, they kept him off the ballot. They did a phenomenal job of making sure that he wasn't in the primaries the same way they were gonna do it with Bernie Sanders. That's why he went independent. But get him in a debate. Yeah. Why do we have to wait till fucking September for a debate? Well, how about the fact that he won't debate, normal Biden, no one's debating. This is the first time we've ever had a presidential election where neither the incumbent nor the main guy on the opposition is so big. Trump said he's not gonna debate. He's not debating anybody.

49:51Why? He'd mop the floor with his - It doesn't have to. Yeah, I guess that's true. So he's like, fuck you, I'm not debating. And also because they keep trying him. They keep bringing him into court. There's all these cases that they keep bringing up. They just lawsuit into oblivion. It's the whole thing is wild. In boldings, his followers though. Yeah, it does. It has the exact opposite effect. I mean, it's a similar sort of playbook in a lot of ways to what they did during the pandemic where the more they attack him, the more people like, what the fuck is true? Yeah. Because I don't believe you guys anymore.

50:25And when you're going after him, I kind of think that you're just doing this because you don't want him to win. And that's banana republic shit. When you're prosecuting your political opponents, specifically because you don't want your political opponents to be able to make it to the vote, that's banana republic shit. But that's what we're living in. Yeah. We have a captured media system. We have a captured medicine system. Yeah. We have captured education system. Yeah. Like, and we're team America world police with bases all over the world. It's every country on the southern and the eastern border of Russia.

51:03What I'm hoping is one of the things that's happened over the last few years, specifically, is the deterioration of the trust of media because of the access to information that people have now, where it's just undeniable. At a certain point in time, they have to admit certain things like lab leak theory. They have to admit certain things. They're avoiding the plague. This all caused mortality increase, but enough people are aware of it. Enough people know people that have been vaccine injured. Enough people know people that have died. Enough people know young people that have had heart attacks.

51:36Where there's enough suspicion and there's enough pause where people are reconsidering and then there's been this silent shift to the center of people that were like radically left. Friends of mine that I had in California that were fucking so left, far left. And now they're like ready to vote Republican. They're literally ready to vote Republican because they don't want this anymore because they see where this is going. My hope is that with AI and with even more access to information because the information just streams and it moves on and innovation moves on no matter what we do, that it's gonna get to a point where lying is virtually impossible.

52:18And I think that's where this kind of emergent technology leads us to unless some other superpower gets a hold of it before we do. But don't you think one of the, I agree with the other person, I would just say, with AI, haven't we seen enough examples already of some hardwired coding of information that is like a little bit woke? Yeah, we have. We have, but then there's GROC, which is Elon's AI, which is the opposite of that. I haven't seen that. Yeah, I haven't used it either, but the idea is that it's supposedly the antidote to that. I think there's enough people that don't want that. And it just, as time goes on, look, even the fucking New York Times wrote a major story about detransitioners.

53:03So people that were convinced at an early age that they were trans and now they're detransitioning and their lives are ruined, their bodies ruined. They can't have children anymore. They'll lost their breasts, they'll lost their penis. It's in fucking sanity. They just took, they just had an eight year old kid that was taken away from his father because the father doesn't want the boy to be on a hormone blocker, so the mother does. It was happening in Canada for a while and now I've seen some cases in the States, which is, this is what Jordan Peterson was warning people about in 2016 when I first met him.

53:35And everybody was like, why do you care about what's happening in colleges? This is just a fringe things that are happening in colleges. Like, those people are gonna graduate and they're gonna enter into the workforce and it's a new mentality that exists. It's not a objective reality mentality. It's an ideologically based mentality that's gonna change the world at large unless we stop it in its tracks. Like, they're not looking at reality. The fucking detransitioner thing, the fact that it's in the New York Times is big, but do you know why? And there's a whole story that somebody wrote about it.

54:06It's because of trial lawyers. Everyone's going to get sued and it's gonna be a big fucking problem because you've thousands of people that have unfortunately given into this, kids are extremely malleable. They're extremely easy to manipulate. They're extremely easy to influence. We've always known this. It's one of the reasons why you don't let children get tattoos. It's one of the reasons why you don't let children join the military. It's one of the reason why you don't let children have children. It's one of the reasons why we have ages of consent because we know they're not young enough. They're not smart enough.

54:42They're not old enough to make their own decisions. They can be manipulated. So if they can be manipulated that way, why the fuck would we think they can't be manipulated by this emerging market, which is gender care, this gender affirming care? Have you ever seen the map of gender care from 2007 versus 2022? Have you ever seen that? Yeah, I saw it somewhere. I'll send it to you, Jamie, so you can take a look at it. But it's fucking bananas. It's a business. My friend who is a doctor told me that his friend who is a plastic surgeon who moved into gender transition care, he told me the difference between what that person gets paid for an orthoscopic surgery versus what they get paid for a gender transition.

55:24I forget what the number was for orthoscopic surgery, but for the gender transition, he gets $70 ,000. Every time he does this and he goes, and this guy is raking it in. He's doing them all week. It's so scary. It's the cure to all that ails for a lot of people. They think, oh, well, this is what's going to fix me. I'm fucked up. Why am I fucked up? What's wrong with me? What's my problem? Oh, I'm really a girl or oh, I'm really a boy. And you know, kids want to be an outsider. They want to be an outsider. It's kind of invoked to be non -binary or whatever the 30 % of kids today recognize themselves either as trans, gay, bi, or non -binary.

56:1230%. Look at this. The pediatric gender clinics in 2007, there was two. One was in Virginia and one, it looks like it was in Massachusetts and now look at them. They're all over the country. And this is in 2022. I mean, that's crazy. The idea that this is just, they're recognizing there's a problem that didn't exist, that existed all the time but wasn't being treated. That's nuts. That doesn't make sense. Especially when you're talking about children. They're fucking kids. Yeah, they're kids. And there's a thing called munchowsons by proxy. You know, where women, sick women, will make their children ill.

56:51They will do it on purpose so that they get attention for the children. There's been women out there, evil, crazy people that have poisoned their children. Yeah, I've seen a couple of documentaries about it. It's nuts. Yeah. It's a psychological disorder, just like gender dysphoria. It's a psychological disorder. It's always been listed as a psychological disorder. And now in 2024, everyone who is a man who thinks he's a woman is brave and amazing. No one's sick. So you're allowing people that are absolutely perverts and sex offenders to go into women's locker rooms with a heart on. And no one can say anything.

57:28And if you say something, they will protest your business and shut you down. There's no room for any nuance. There's no room for someone to say, hey, listen, for some people, there's clearly this thing in them that makes them feel like they're in the wrong body. And if we are compassionate and if we are kind, we would want that person to be able to express themselves in any way that they want that makes them feel better that helps everybody. But also, there's perverts. But also, there's people that if they find out all they have to do is pretend they're a woman and they can go in the women's locker room and watch women change, they'll do that too.

58:04You see, I'm sure you've seen the guy in Canada, the 50 year old man that identifies as a 15 year old girl and got to change in the young girl's locker room and got to compete with these young girls. It's utter, complete insanity. Psychosis. Yeah. First of all, you're 50, you're not 15, period, period. That's fucking, that's not negotiable. You know, you live a certain amount of time period. You can't say I identify as a baby and then wear diapers and have everybody take care of you. That's fucking crazy. But the fact that they're letting that, we are one step away from minor attracted persons being something that everybody's cool with.

58:45Because that's also on the agenda. And every now and then, they sneak that out there. Every now and then, you'll see it in universities, he people talking about it. We have these, this is one malign group that has no support, minor attracted persons. Yeah. Sick. It's sick. It's sick. And the rest of the world is fucking laughing at us. They're laughing at how crazy, especially Russia. They think it's hilarious. They're laughing at how ridiculous. I bet you Putin's probably going to say something about that in this interview. I hope he does. And he would be right. I just don't, I don't know why they're just so hell -bent on going after the kids.

59:21Obviously there's, I think it's money. There's huge money in it. I think it's money. And it's also the waving the flag of woke, you know? I mean, it's just, it's crazy. It's really weird. But you've had people on you talk about the development of the brain, right? And then, and it's all the way to what? 25 for men. Yeah. Women develop earlier. They get their shit together quicker, but we know that in real life. Yeah. There's something about men. We don't get it. I think back to the time when I was 21, yeah, I was fucking idiot. Yeah. Just popped up full of hormones and just driving too fast and doing stupid shit.

59:58Yeah, that's why they get young men to go to war. They don't know any better. Yeah. Yeah. But leave the kids alone. Leave the fucking kids alone. Especially, you know, what's really hilarious? There's this guy that interviewed all these people and said, do you believe that it's okay to encourage young people to transition? And all these blue hair people like, yes, I do. To Catholicism? And they're like, no.

1:00:27I love it. And they were doing the same thing with tattoos. Do you think 12 -year -old is too young to get a tattoo? Yeah, they don't know any better. But what about change their gender? Yes, they know. Okay, okay. It's just ideology, man. It's just like, you might as well be a Scientologist. You might as well be a Mooney. It's the same thing. It's the same sort of religious -like thinking that exists in all sorts of groups of people that we call cults. But we don't want to call these hardcore leftists. We don't want to call it cult. But Mark Andreessen had a really good analysis of it on the podcast where he said it has everything that every cult has.

1:01:04It has stricter adherence to the rules. It has excommunication. When you get kicked out, how they fucking go after you. And it's devastating socially. So all the same things that Scientology does. All the same things that a lot of other cults do. But we don't want to look at it as a cult. Because you see the rainbow flag, you see the LBG. What is the two, the I, the A and the plus? What's the I? I don't know. Some of them are asexual. I think they should stay the fuck out of it. If you're asexual, stay out of it. If you say you're asexual, good. That's fine. That's why I believe it. I believe there's some people that are asexual.

1:01:41Stay out of it. Stay out of it. You're not in a malign group. Nobody's fucking going after asexuals. Nobody's discriminates against asexuals. So if they're in there, is that the A? Yeah. Fuck off asexuals. The fuck out of here. Okay, what's the two? Two spirit. Oh, like Foxkin. Yeah, that's me, bro. I got a wolf spirit. I know. I know some. I think two spirit has to do with Native Americans. Oh, okay. What do I think? Oh, look at the LBGTQ flag. It pulsates. Does any other flag pulsate? No, I don't think so. Two spirit. A modern pan -Indian umbrella used by some indigenous North Americans to describe Native people in their communities who fulfill a traditional third general ceremonial and social role in their cultures.

1:02:32Yeah, but that's also that's what the Lakota's had. So the Lakota recognized transgender people as someone who is a revered member of society because they understood both men and women. You know, like they also had something called the Hiyoko, which was a sacred clown. They had this one guy who made fun of everything. Because if you couldn't make fun of things, they were bullshit. Right. And so that's the way they would test things. You get mad, they're making fun of that. Oh, that's bullshit. You're bullshit. You know, like if someone made fun of you for being really good at football, you'd be like, okay.

1:03:04You can't make fun of that. Like, what do you say all you want? You know, I can hurt my feelings. You know, you're Aaron Rogers. You're really fucking good at football. Like if someone makes fun of that, but if someone made fun of, you know, your mustache and you're like, hey, man, fuck off. I'm like, oh, you got to be out with that mustache. You think that mustache is stupid. And so that's how they would test things in their culture that were bullshit. But that's what we need, we need comedy to be able to, I mean, that's what I've loved about South Park for so many years. They're the tip of the spear.

1:03:34Yeah, just how they're able to like go, hey. Society. What the fuck are we doing? They're the best. They're a national treasure. They really are. They, no matter what, they can get away with it. They go so hard in the pain. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. We'll be with the South Park. I mean, where would we be without South Park for real? God damn. And how about the Simpsons? How about the Simpsons keep fucking calling it? They predicted the Apple Vision Pro. There's an old Simpsons episode where people are walking around with those goggles and they're falling into manholes. And now you're seeing people out there in the street, swiping things and moving away and wearing these goggles on the street.

1:04:16I can't believe they got Trump on the escalator though. That to me is one of the craziest ones when they got him right in the escalator down like he did in that one moment where I think he had just declared for the presidency and he kind of rode this elevator down. Yeah, how did this even happen? Do you, this is what I think? Time traveler? I don't think time traveler. But I think that if you're so into it, here it is. Look at this, they have literally had Trump waving. It's the same photo. It's so crazy. God, that's so nuts. Oh, wait a minute, people think the Simpsons predicted Trump's win, but it's what?

1:04:54What does that say, Jamie? On the right hand side? What are they saying? It's not true. It's not true. Viral image claiming the show, scroll back up, called the 2016 electoral map has nothing to do with Trump. The claim is Simpsons not only for saw Donald Trump's run for president, but also predicted which states he'd care making the rounds. The claim is wrong. Oh, they're just saying they claim too much, I believe, but that picture is they had Trump coming down the escalator and he was going down the escalator and he did wave his right hand. I mean, like the thing is it's the same image. Like no matter what, the fact that he did that and they predicted it, I feel like some people, if you're intensely creative and clearly those guys are, if you're constantly, you have your thumb on the pulse of satire and culture and where things are headed, I think you can see things.

1:05:50I think you get whispers from the muse. I think the universe sends you messages. There's like, there's been talk about that in Diana Pouscalco's book, American Cosmic, the first time he gave me the rack before he gave me the rack. She's fascinating. I'm gonna read that. But in that book, one of the things that they go into is 2001 and the monolith, like that these, whatever it is that brings this monolith to these primitive primates and they see this thing and this thing sort of represents where they're going to and what the future is. It's kind of, it's, I mean, in the book they theorize whether or not that's a television or it's a screen or it's a cell phone, but it's at this something that's pulling us towards it and that Kubrick recognized that.

1:06:46But Kubrick was a fucking genius, like a real scary genius. Like he would do complex mathematics in his spare time and all of his movies were encoded with all this weird like Easter eggy stuff. Like the shining, it's all about the moon landing. Even the amount of miles to the moon is the exact same number as the room that was haunted, the kid wearing the NASA shirt. Like there's so many things that people connect with the moon landing. And then the ultimate conspiracy theory was that Kubrick faked the moon landing. Oh, that yeah. That's the best one. I love that one. That's my favorite. Yeah, like that one too.

1:07:30Yeah. Eyes wide shut's pretty. Oh my god. That is pretty crazy. Because back when eyes wide shut first came out, everybody's like, well, that's not real. And then you hear about Epstein's Island, like, maybe it was. Maybe there are parties like that. Well, that's conspiracy that he was killed because of that movie. Real, you know about this. So supposedly he showed the movie to the executives and they wanted to take out 15 minutes of the movie. Everybody got kicked out of the theater. I mean, again, I don't probably get fact checked on this, but and then a few days later. We're going to read this.

1:08:01Is it a Reddit? Let's see it. Come on. Here it is. Kubrick died of a heart attack. Six days after showing the final cut of eyes wide shut to Warner Brothers, making it the final family direct that he reportedly considered his greatest contribution to the art of cinema. Wow. But he's supposed to got into a yelling match with the executives about some of the stuff that was in it. Was he murdered because of eyes wide shut? But what was so egregious about that film that they would murder him, though? I mean, exposing too much sex cults. Yeah, I don't trust. With the ad -court, I don't trust any fact checking organizations anymore.

1:08:35I don't trust anything that the bond is on. Yeah, that's, I mean, that's, I don't know, he would've thought so. I guess it was crazy. Yeah. But that's a crazy movie, the fact that he did, you know, he kind of showed some stuff. There's weird stuff like at the end of the movie too when those two guys and come get, they come and get their daughter and stuff. There's a weird stuff. Well, that weird stuff, it used to be so easy to dismiss. But now, you know, it's the Alex Jones was right, meme. Like, you realize how many times that guy's been right? Like, Jesus Christ. Like, how is he so good at predicting all these things that are happening?

1:09:10Because the guys balls deep in it all day long. Yeah, you could call him right now. It's like I'm doing a document, some of the research right now, it's just sick. This is what they're doing, this is the plan. I talk to him all the time. We text each other every time something's crazy. I'll text him, like, what is this? And he'll send me all these fucking documents. He's talking about, I saw something he said the other day about, you know, he got abs, you shit ready in case they, yeah, turn the, turn the power off, turn the water off, do something like that. Well, there's a lot of people that think that, including me.

1:09:40Because if I was a foreign government and I wanted to cripple America, I would kill the power grid. We'd go feral in two weeks. It would be chaos in two weeks. As soon as people don't have water and food and their children are starving, people go crazy. They start eating dogs, they start shooting deer in their neighborhood, and then that runs out. And then they realize they don't know how to keep food good. You know, when it's hot out, they don't know how to get water, they know how to treat water. It could get real bad real quick. Like we are not self -sufficient even remotely. There's small pockets of human beings in this country, they're self -sufficient.

1:10:14But if you had to guess how many people could survive off grid if everything went haywire, it's like 1%, which is probably what happens when there's a massive catastrophe, when some sort of a global catastrophic event, like a super volcano or something along those lines. Another younger, yeah. Yeah, it's probably 1 % of the people survive. It's probably what happened back then too. Yeah. Well, that's what I've always said as a reason why if you go back, look at like ancient Egypt, look at how insanely sophisticated they were. And if you subscribe to the Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson's perspective, which I do, which is that at one point in time, there was an incredibly sophisticated society, probably more sophisticated than we are that lived in Africa in Egypt.

1:11:01And that those people were probably in a different direction, but far more advanced than we are today. And then they were wiped out. And then go after that. So if you're talking about 11 ,000 years ago, 11 ,800 years ago when they got wiped out, and that just, you know, we're down to like 1 % of the population, think about what history looks like when you go back 4 ,000 years, 3 ,000. It's fucking barbarians. Just the most horrible instances of brutality and murder and chaos and what Genghis Khan did and what the Mongols did and what, I mean, the pirates and the crusades and all the fucking horrible shit that people did back then, because those were the descendants of the people that were so barbaric that they survived.

1:11:49Those are the descendants of the 1 % that made it through that catastrophe. And you had to be fucking horrible to do that. You probably had to be horrible. You're probably killing your neighbors, probably eating people. I mean, what percentage of our population if you go back 10 ,000 years ago were cannibals? It's probably pretty high. 50? It's probably pretty high. Which you had to do what you got to do. We know what happens to the Donner party. We know what happens to people that get stuck on a boat. They're off at sea and one guy dies. They just start eating them. We know that. The movie Alive.

1:12:19Tabs, like always happens. It always happens. I want to ask you a question about what you just said, but I didn't need to take a piss. Oh, okay, let's piss. We'll be right back folks. Okay, and we're back. Marshall, come say hi. Kimmy, come on up here. Come on up here. Kimmy, come say hi to everybody. Wanna be on camera? Come on. You guys are. Come on. I don't know what you're doing. I don't know what you're doing. You get sad when we're not here. Is the best. Jamie, do we plug that out? Yeah. Oh, okay. You want me to get Carl on camera?

1:13:00Marshall looks at Carl as an attention thief. He's like, that guy's got to steal my attention. I don't see anybody. What was the question we were looking at? So sorry, I had something else put up. Oh, we're going to look at whatever this fucking thing means under the Carl Schwab, Klaus Schwab, a photograph. You know that wacky photograph that we have out there? It has something in Latin underneath it. I'm a senator to you.

1:13:26Okay, I sent it. He's standing at that podium dress like Darth Vader. They're so out in the open with it. Yeah, it almost makes you feel like you're being punked. Science in the engine, I'm virtue. So it's like, I'll look it up. This is to have something with virtue and science. Trust the science. Yeah, trust me. Science. He's the thing that he said recently, we would no longer have to have elections, because we can predict the results. Knowledge is the virtue of talent. Direct translation. Know what translation they're using could be a little different. Knowledge is the virtue of talent.

1:14:12That's a fucking cone. That's like the sound of one hand clapping. Here's my found out. College motto of count us university of technology in Lithuania. The act of honoring or something else. Hmm. Okay. That fucking dude though. When he was literally he was talking to one of the Google guys and he was saying that with these the ability to predict things that will no longer need elections. Like, oh, how convenient. Why don't we just let you and the WF for the UN just tell us who's going to be in charge. The fact that that is a place where people go by private jet. So they fly in these jets to tell everybody that they're going to stop pumping out carbon.

1:15:02Yeah. Love it. Keep it up, man. But that's honestly, but that's the waking up is this hypocrisy is everywhere. It's a fucking people who are telling us, cut your carbon footprint. Don't grow your own food. Eat fucking insects. Stop eating meat. Yeah. It's like, you know, you know that hearing any of this shit. No, of course not. They were serving meat at the WF. Yeah. What people want there. Yeah. What I want to ask you before, because I'm fascinated by Egypt, is when you had Randall and Graham on, Randall alluded to technologies that I've actually done some research, even though you should do your own research.

1:15:39I've done some research on and thought about how they move those fucking stones. And there's a lot of people with theories about using frequency to build them with stones. And Randall mentioned on that podcast that he'd been working with a company for like seven years. Yeah. And that there was technologies about to come out. There was actually somebody who did something similar in Florida, I believe, built a structure. Oh, the coral gables. Yeah, the coral castle, right? Has anything come from that? Do you know it? No. I mean, because they still can't, I mean, they talk about slave labor or log rolling.

1:16:15But these mega -toned stones that were used to build the pyramids, like what they'd say, how it was moved and the time it would have taken and the manpower to me is complete bullshit. It's also how far they had to take them through the mountains. Where the quarries were. They were machinery. Yeah. It's almost like it's so immense and so incredible that it's there as a reminder that something was different. But I just think there's ancient technology like that that could have been used. Oh, I'm sure of it. You know, I'm sure they had something because they do find things that are indicative of drills.

1:16:57Diamond. Diamond tip drills. They've cord in a way that had to be insanely high speed, diamond tip drills that corded different. Stuff that we can barely do. Barely do. Yeah. And then it's just the sheer mass. I mean, the amount of stones, two million, three hundred thousand stones, the great pyramid. And, you know, they're perfectly aligned to true North -South East and West. It's just the whole thing about the quarries being hundreds of miles away. The whole thing is nuts. It's not primitive people. It's super advanced people that did that. And it's super advanced people that lived in a society that's very different than what we think of as existed 10 ,000 plus years ago.

1:17:35Speaking of the super advanced society, what do you think about, and be looked into the Tarterian? I was watching a video today about it. Yeah. I think that's pretty fascinating, you know. Yeah, it is fascinating that there was an advanced society, but there's also a lot of cooks. A lot of cooks involved in that. You know, I think everything goes. And I think that's some of the, maybe some of that's controlled to keep people from... Exactly. ...looking at some of that stuff. But you just look at the world's fear. There are the 1900s. There's some really weird shit around that. Like what? The structures that they built over them, they were supposed to take down in some of these cities about some of the technologies that were used in some of the architecture.

1:18:13And now some of that architecture isn't standard with many of the other buildings of the same era. What they're doing on top with free energy, possibly on some of these buildings. It's pretty wild stuff. So like free energy, like Tesla, what would Tesla... Like they were able to extract energy from the atmosphere that electricity for everybody. I think they had, and you can maybe bring something up, Jamie. But they had, I believe they had mercury in these... Was it copper? Kind of balls on top of the buildings and they figured out a way to extract energy just from the air. Really? Yeah. So where'd you read this?

1:18:56Just online. A lot of interesting comments about it. A lot of nuttiness. Marshall, get out of there, buddy. There's a shred of truth in Marshall. He went over there and stole Carl's toy. You little thief. How dare you, buddy. Jamie, get a back me up on some of this Tarterian. Yeah, I'm gonna try to find it. Is there like a really good reliable source of Tarteria information? I haven't. I mean, wouldn't Granby be one, has he? I don't know if he's into that. So what is the theory? The theory is that even more recently... There was more recently. An advanced dream. The theory is there was an advanced civilization that had certain technologies and that some of the recent history is bullshit.

1:19:39And that the world's fair builds structures over the top of these. Well, some of the world's fair stuff can be explained by like... Universal Studios style. Right. It's just facades to look, but they were covering certain buildings. Because there were people who were coming to see stuff. That's just some of them. The Q and on of Art. The Q and on of Art. Any time you want to disgrace it, just put fucking Q and on. Or MAGA. Q and on or MAGA. Those are great. 1908, artist or architect or Ernest Flagg completed the singer building in Lower Manhattan. A bow art showstopper made for the singer -song machine company from a wide -based.

1:20:18A slender 27 story tower rose top with a man -sard roof and a delicate lantern spire. Every inch dripped with sumptuous detail inside and out, vaulted roofs, marble columns with bronze trim, window, millions with spiral... I don't even know what a million is. With spiral fluting, the lobby was said to have a celestial radiance, a book written about its construction. For a year, it was the tallest building in the world, the 612 feet, and a celebrated landmark for decades after that. But not too much longer, despite its great height. The pencil -thin tower lacked office space. In the 1960s, the company sold it.

1:20:54Its ornate headquarters, demolition proceeded in 1967. It's the tallest building to ever be peacefully demolished. Peacefully, interesting. By any account, it's a fantastic tale. Once the tallest building in the world, their New York City icon knocked down just a handful of decades. It's like the part of the bottom here. That's the adherence to the theory of belief. Yeah, blah, blah. Yeah. So you need to find something about the top of these buildings, what they had. Tartaria rises. Tartarian theme content is produced for YouTube videos that get picked over on Reddit. Our Tartarian Architecture sub, which began in 2018.

1:21:33December has 3 ,300 members, though not everyone who posts and comments appears to be a true believer. A larger and more general sub that appeared around the same time, our Tartaria, has 8 ,700 members. This conspiracy theories go. Tartaria remains obscure. Twitter user Cinema shoebox brought it to many people's attention last year with this thread. A pseudo -science debunking writer, Brian Dunning. Oh, I remember Brian. Remember that guy? Recently devoted an episode of his podcast, Steps Skeptoy, to the Tartaria story, which appears to have emerged in 2016 and 2017. Tartaria story. This is where he ends.

1:22:14Yeah, he's explaining a lot of the stuff. But I want to find the energy stuff that he was asking. Yeah. I just think the architecture is pretty fascinating. Some of these. Scroll back up. I just went a little too fast there. Yeah, this guy wrote slightly more. I think it was one worldwide civilization. It says, Watkeam Scar, a 26 year old Norwegian who runs a Tartarian meltdown YouTube channel. It was all based on unity, oneness, peace, love, and harmony. Okay. Which we don't see in today's society. Well, that is very utopian. Sure, I'd love to believe that that was the case. It's an interesting, interesting idea.

1:22:55Well, there was probably some technology that got squashed because competitors didn't want people to use. I mean, that's the whole theory about the electric or the water car. Remember that one guy who created the water -based car and then he got whacked? Yep. He yelled out, they poisoned me, ran out of the restaurant and died. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if I was an oil company and I was evil and some fuckhead came along and developed a car that runs on tap water, I'd be like, what? Wasn't there a guy who walked back there? He was a technology to clean drinking water. He was a part of what shooting? There was a supposed random shooting that happened in Buffalo.

1:23:42He was a leaf. So what technology? And he created some sort of filtration system to provide clean drinking water. Jamie, I need some backing on this. I don't see any. I vaguely remember this shooting. These are so fun. Wacky conspiracies are so fun. They are so fun. Whenever I talk to Sam Tripoli, I just have a big smile on my face. Sam's the master of these things. But this is the first one to introduce me to Tartaria. There's too many that, you know, like the water car. Like the water car is a wild one. Because where's that technology? Like what happened with that? How come nobody figured that out?

1:24:20But I believe there was one before that too, like in the early 1900s. Well, they did have steam -powered engines. Steam -powered engines have always existed. And essentially those were on water, right? But I think they, I think, if I want to say they were powered by coal. If I remember correctly. Like the coal, and then the coal boiled the water and the steam. I don't remember, though. But if that happens, like there was a documentary that existed in... Oh, God. It was like the 90s or the early 2000s called Who Killed the Electric Car? Do you remember that? Yeah, well now, my buddy. Now the electric car is everywhere.

1:25:00So, like some technologies you can't keep down. But if it wasn't for Elon Musk, how long would it take before we figured out an electric car? You know? I mean, Elon was a part of Tesla early on. And Tesla's been around... I mean, I remember the first time I saw a Tesla, God, I feel like it was like early 2000s. I think Bill Mar was probably the first one that I saw driving with us. He had one that said, fuck OPEC, I think, was his license plate. I think that was Bill. I know there was definitely a Tesla that was around... Bill's hilarious. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's one of the rare liberals that pushes back and gets attacked for it.

1:25:42Pushes back on some of the crazy nonsense. I think he's able to just call things what they are. I think that's the worst. Yeah, but we're able to... We're able to get in our bubble of identity politics where if you're on one side, you only pop it specific narratives where he's kind of like, no, I don't know. This doesn't make sense to me. Well, he's a...it's hard. He's a comic. Yeah. And comics, generally, especially good ones, generally resist these cultural trends toward ideological thinking. Because they're like, wait a minute. That's why the woke comedians are all terrible. Because like to adhere to that ideology, like without any change at all, without any pushback at all, it's preposterous.

1:26:25And to be a comedian, you're always pushing back. You're pushing back on everything, all the societal norms, all the things that are taboo, all the things that are bizarre that you can't discuss. Comedians are always bringing up the things that people are talking about that they don't have a seat, buddy. But we need that. We need that. Yes. Otherwise... It's the Hi -O -Ka. Yeah. It's the Sacred Clown of Society. And they're the only ones that are allowed to do that between them and the Simpsons. And there's a few people that are allowed to publish literature that's in that direction. But for the most part, most people are scared.

1:26:58Most people don't want to lose their jobs. They don't want to be exiled from their communities. They don't want to be out of their friend group. Like you were saying about just the vaccine. Just a simple medical decision would alienate a...there's a lot of people that I'd lost friends with. But the same as you. I'm just not friends with them anymore. They attacked me during the pandemic. A lot of them I've seen since then. They apologize and I forgive them. But I'm never going to trust you again. If the shit goes sideways, you know, you're...you fold. You fold too quick. You're not a critical thinker.

1:27:28You're not someone who goes, hey, maybe this isn't all what I've been told. And if you don't know the history of Fauci and if you don't know the history of the NIH, please... Read Robert Kennedy's book, The Real Anthony Fauci. Please read it. Even if you think Robert Kennedy's a cuck, because by the way, I did. I used to think he was this anti -vax cuck because I was... And I apologize to him when I first met him and I had him on the podcast. I told him, I go, I have to be honest with you. When I first heard of you, all I'd heard was the narrative. The narrative that they have so successfully spun that he is this anti -science, anti -you know, whatever conspiracy theorist that is, you know, the embarrassment of the Kennedy family.

1:28:10And that was the narrative. Oh, this crazy guy. And then all these people that I trust that are brilliant, like one of my friends is a PhD. So genius. He's like, you must read this book. I'm like, really? He goes, just please read the book, just for the facts. Because regardless of what you think about that guy, read the book. So I was like two paragraphs in before I called him. I was like, what the fuck? Is this shit real? How much of this is real? Well, he hasn't got sued. Yeah, he hasn't got sued. And then you got to read dissolving illusions. Yes, I read that as well. That's a mind -blower, right?

1:28:45Wow. That's a mind -blower. Yeah. Aaron Salter Jr. was killed by a mass shooter because he was working on creating a water -powered car engine. Oh, that's what the bullet -a -fact fact check on it. What's very interesting in this is that it's false. Well, so it says that. Right. But then I was reading through it. It's saying that there's no truth that he was killed because of that work. Which I don't know how you would know that. But he was working on a water -powered car. It's true that Salter was working on a water -powered, working to power vehicles with water. But there's no evidence that work made him a target in a mass shooting.

1:29:19Could be just a coincidence. Yeah, he was working as a security guard at that grocery store. But there's a video from a couple months before where he's showing his work on a car like. This is a rafely motivated hate crime, though, right? I mean, he didn't the guy admit that it was a racially motivated hate crime. Was he black? Was the guy who got killed black as well? Or did this guy kill everybody that was at the grocery store? And it was racially motivated. Yeah, I don't know the details of the shooting off the top.

1:29:50Yeah, again, it's just interesting. It's all interesting. Well, there's also mentoring candidates. Like, if you go back to the MK Ultra days and you go back to... Wait, those have stopped? I do not think they have stopped. No. I think they've got much more sophisticated now. Black, two or white of the 13 people that were shot. And his name is Marcus D. Morrison? No, no, no. I was looking up to people to find out who exactly was the one and there was this guy here. Aaron Salter, one of the two. So get a photograph of Aaron Salter. I think he's a black man. That's who I was talking about with this.

1:30:21Right. But I mean, is there a photo of him? We could find if he's black or white? No, he is black, yeah. He is black. Okay. Well, I mean, there are... Look, mind control experiments have been documented. They've existed since the 1940s, 1950s, 1960s MK Ultra. A great example of that. I bring it up all the time, but it's an amazing book. Tom O 'Neill's book chaos on the Manson Family Murders. The Manson Family Murders were almost absolutely a CIA operation that went sideways. What they did was they got that guy, when he was in prison, Jolly West visited him in prison. And it seems like they coached him on mind control using LSD.

1:31:08It was well known that he would give them LSD and not take it himself. And he was coercing them, convincing them, hypnotizing them, fucking with their mind, and getting them to commit murders. And they kept letting Manson out every time they caught him. And the sheriff said would let him out, would say it's above my pay grade. They were told to let him out. So he had violated Pearl multiple times. He had been connected to murders, and they still kept letting him out. They wanted him out there because that was how they were going to discredit the anti -war movement. There's the same thing that they did with the sweeping psychedelics act of 1970.

1:31:41The reason why they did it wasn't because psychedelics were a real problem was because it was a great way to target civil rights activists. It was a great way to target the Black Panthers, a great way to target any anti -war people because those people were all involved with psychedelic drugs. So you would cut their supply off, arrest the people that were involved in it, find them, get them, prosecute them, make things that people had used since the beginning of time, like Silas -Iban. Turn them into schedule one, terrible drugs that are a scourge of humanity, meanwhile you're pushing vikens and volumes and fucking antidepressants and oxies.

1:32:15And all the shit that we know is not schedule one. That's out there right now on the streets. And that's real. So if we know that they did that, they operated the hate ashberry clinic in the 1960s, which by the way, my wife's mom used to go to that you met today. She was a hippie in the 1960s. I knew I liked her. And she lived in the hate ashberry and she used to go to the hate ashberry clinic, which was run by the CIA. Wow. They fucking ran a clinic. They ran a free clinic. And Manson was a regular visitor to that place. And these are the same people that also ran operation midnight climax, where they ran brothels and they would give the Johns, they would come into mingle with the prostitutes, they'd give them LSD and study them through two -way mirrors.

1:33:00Wow. This is a fucking dessert government. Our government was like running all kinds of wild studies on human beings and how to manipulate them and how to use psychedelic drugs specifically LSD to influence their mind. Also, Ted Kaczynski. Ted Kaczynski was a part of that program that was out of Harvard. He was one of those people that got dosed up with LSD and they did all sorts of horrific psychological tests on human studies and all these weird experiments, whether they would humiliate him and torture him. And then the guy went on to decide that technology was going to be the end of mankind and he needed to kill all the people that were creating technology.

1:33:38Meanwhile, he's probably right. He was probably right. On acid, he probably saw where all this technology is going. Oh my God, if we keep going, this would be the end of the human race. It'll take us over and it'll be our demise and I have to stop this. He's obviously fucking insane. But also, obviously, a part of a mind control experiment gone terribly wrong or terribly right. Yeah, it started out of what they did in Operation Paperclip. Yeah. Yeah. When they forgot about it. What the hell they were doing over there. Yeah. And gave them a lot of them government jobs, high paying jobs. Oh, it's turning into the CIA and Alan Delas, working his back door stuff with Prescott Bush into the CIA, getting fired by JFK, very interesting connections all the way down.

1:34:33Yeah. It's, there's a dark history, a really dark history to these organizations of what they've done and the amount of manipulation that they were successful at. It's pretty, pretty wild stuff. And still do. And have to still be doing it. Why would they abandon something that's so successful? After he shot Lee Harvey Oswald, Jack Ruby psychosis was diagnosed by the same CIA doctor at once killed an elephant with psychedelics. That's a jolly West, Louis Jolion West. Figure equally infamous for allegedly killing an elephant with LSD and for his work with an MK Ultra. The Central Intelligence Agency's infamous interrogation hypnosis and mind control program.

1:35:14An analysis of available documents from the CIA's declassified archives and the recovered MK Ultra file shows not only did West want to continue his work with the agency during the period he was treating Ruby, the university he researched at thought that's exactly what he was doing. Yeah, he went to visit Jack Ruby in the hospital and Jack Ruby freaked out and was saying that there were killing Jews and Satan was here and he was hiding under the bed like he went nuts. And there was no indication that before that meeting that he was ever in some sort of a fragile psychics state or some sort of a fragile mental condition where he would just go nuts like that.

1:35:54Like this was just all after Jolly West visited him. Of course, Jolly West doseed him up. Of course. Why would I mean, how did they even convince him to go shoot Lee Harvey Oswald like that and how did no one check people for guns? How did they wheel out this guy who's probably the most important defendant in the history of... They changed the formation walking out. And they probably allowed him to enter through the loading dock because he was... Yeah, Jews stand with some of the people and the... We have that photo out here too. Yep. It's in the hallway. That's why we're getting shot. Yeah. Yeah.

1:36:30The walk in is Jack Ruby getting shot. Or Lee Harvey Oswald getting shot by Jack Ruby. Well that, I mean, that whole thing is wild. I mean, it just goes so fucking deep. It goes so deep. And you're seeing it right now with Trump. Why the fuck haven't they released the files? Why haven't they released any of the files? Why is all the COVID information kept for 75 years? Why is that stuff locked up forever? Why does nobody give a fuck about that? It's not that they don't give a fuck. They don't. There's too much to pay attention to. There's climate change. There's UFOs. There's Ukraine. There's Hamas.

1:37:05There's terrorists. I think we just know more money. We just sent some more money, I think. That's what it is. See Ukraine. Yeah. Meanwhile, this border bill that they're just... They're trying to pass. 80 % of the money does not go to the border. Yeah. What a great idea, guys. It's not like there's a crisis of people. We have no idea who these people are. What is the whole bullshit about wanting to cut the fuck in fence? I don't know. And Abbott's sending the... I don't know, but here's some more bullshit. A lot of this seems like it's a manufacturing on both sides. Because there was a gentleman who went down to the border and said...

1:37:45I saw this. All y 'all talking about how there's a fucking fight about the holes in the border. Let me show you how many holes in the border there are. Like, what they're talking about is blocking this one thing. You can go a half a mile this way and there's an open door. Half a mile this way. There's another open door. It's like it's wide open. All they would have to do is go further down that way and then... So it's a fucking talking point just to sting the one side. I would imagine that it is a great point of contention that is used as a political volleyball. And they're just knocking it over the fence back and forth towards each other.

1:38:18But the real problem is like, what's in there a guy that's on a terrorist watch list? That's one that they have that said you'll know who I am. Yeah, not just one. That was one guy. But they've caught guys. And there's a lot of like... And there's a lot of like... ...of those like of age, you know, military age. But you can just miss some of that because those are the people that they send. Because those are the young people that can get jobs. They can send money back home. I understand. People that are deeply impoverished. Yeah. Look, I get it, man. And I think you probably are the same way. If you were living in Guatemala on a dirt floor and they told you that if you go to America, they give you free food and they put you up at the Roosevelt Hotel in New York City.

1:38:56Give me a thousand of them. Yeah. Credit card. And if you beat up cops, they let you go. They beat the shit out of two cops. And they...no bail. Just right out. And you see them walking out? Yeah. Giving the two bucks. Giving the double fingers to the camera. Yeah. The whole thing is wild. And it's almost like there's an engineered decision. Like it's a decision to destroy so much of what makes America great. Wow. There's one individual who's worked pretty damn hard at that. George Soros. Oh, yeah. He's a fascinating character. He's fascinating. Millions of dollars. Billions. Billions of dollars.

1:39:34On local elections. Yeah. On local DAs, including the DA in Austin. Yeah. California, that's a big problem. People are theft, crazy theft, and get let out same day. The commanding crimes get let out. There's no prosecution. There's no nothing. Yeah, and it seems to be a decision, a conscious decision, to destroy things. And I don't know what the end game is. I don't know what they're trying to do. Well, destabilization. Yeah. I mean, I think that's like a deep conspiracy about the deep state and the cabal and people pulling the strings. Yeah. But I think that's why if there is a way that RFK could get elected, you know, to me, that's where the hope starts, that things can change and get better.

1:40:20But is it even possible, is there a real path for an independent to become the president? Well, if... Because the Trumpers are not going to vote for RFK. The Trumpers are going to vote for Trump. And that's a giant percentage of the population that is not really hip to what RFK is talking about. And they like him over Biden, but they don't like him over Trump. And Trump is their man. Trump is the guy that's been in there before. He understands how it works. When you see what he was doing in terms of the economy was doing much better, we weren't involved in all these world conflicts. You know, whether you like him, like, Chimath from Facebook.

1:40:58What was this guy's name? How do you say his name again? Brilliant guy who was doing this thing, you say, the right message, but the wrong messenger. Like Trump's policies were good, but coming from him, nobody wanted to listen to it. But the things that he was talking about with deregulation, things he was talking about in terms of dealing with international conflicts. And he was right. He was right about how to handle ISIS. He was right about a lot of these things. But the people that believe in him, they're not going to vote for anybody else. They're all in on Trump. And they think that it's just...

1:41:29Yeah, but what if it's Wikenham Bernays, Nikki Haley and... RFK, Jim. Well, that happens. RFK's got a chance. If that happens. But there's a lot of dummies out there that they think that Nikki Haley's the solution. No. And she's not...no, there are a lot. And I've seen a lot of like left -wing pundits that are talking up Nikki Haley. Well, they don't want Trump. No, they don't want Trump. But also... They went to New Hampshire and voted in the party. Yeah. It's all fucking wild, man. It's just... Politics is...it's like you said. I mean, unless you take the money out, we're fucked. It's a two -party system.

1:42:04Yeah. It's going to be the same bullshit. You can't... I don't know why... Tell me why election day isn't a national holiday. And why is it racist to say you have to have some form of identification? Yeah. It doesn't make any sense. Why can't you have a day? It's a fucking national holiday. Everybody go vote. We're going to tally it up on the same day. We have some faith in the voting machines. You know, unless you're a veteran overseas, there's no male in ballots. Or unless you're... You know, you can't... You're bedridden, does that make sense? Jamie, I'm going to send you something, little errors.

1:42:42I love memes. They're the best. Meme's my favorite thing of all time. But this one, I saw this one, it made me laugh so hard. Was it from Tom? No, no, no. This one wasn't from Tom. This one's just from randomly from the Internet. But it's so perfect. Don't let Trump cheat. Demand voter ID and paper ballots.

1:43:04So let Trump cheat. It's so funny. The Internet is so funny. They're so funny. It's undefeated. Oh my god, they're so good. They're so good. We need them. God damn it, we need them. Thank God they exist. Thank God that they weren't able to put a stop to that. They weren't able to put a stop to people just talking shit and posting and doing whatever they want. They tried. They tried. Yeah. I think they ever saw this coming though. I think when they first rolled out the Internet in the late 80s or early 90s, I think they had no fucking idea what this was going to be. If they did, they would have stopped it right away.

1:43:40Don't you think that's interesting when you look back at like the idea of an Atlanta society and the Latin society or even, you know, this silliness about the torturing? When there was a point where there wasn't technology. Yeah. And as it starts to filter in, you have decisions to be made on which direction to go. And we seemed to take all of our technology into the form of business and profits. What about a society that would take it in a different direction? You know, I think a lot about Tesla, right? And the inventions that he had and his idea about a society. And there's been some interesting comments about the type of society we would live in that had some of his inventions.

1:44:25And you know the rivalry between him and Edison. But like a society that isn't driven strictly on profits and advancement. The problem is innovation requires dedication and ambition. And oftentimes dedication and ambition is driven by profits. I understand. A competition has never, it's always been a part of things. But how many times in the history of this world, because as Graham talks about, there could be hundreds of thousands of years in multi -younger driest events? How many times did we get to this point? You know, was there other societies that they weren't strictly motivated by profits and advancement and competition in the form of division that actually figured the shit out?

1:45:15Well, if you had a time machine, if you could exist in like a bulletproof sphere that was invisible to all the people around you and just observe a time, I would want to observe Egypt and its prime. I just would go, what were you guys doing? What were they doing? Like, what was it like? I need one of these jellyfish UAPs. So, go back. That one is the least interesting to me. I'll go. I just don't, I'm not interested in it. It just doesn't seem like anything. It's flying around. It just goes in the water, it comes out of the water like, okay. Like, so what? Which ones do you like? I like the ones that move off at insane rates of speed and that like the TickTack one.

1:46:00The TickTack one, I was watching this documentary on it the other day. And they were saying that the footage was released because it wasn't supposed to be released. Someone recorded it. Someone recorded the flair footage. Yeah. And someone released it. And if it wasn't for that video footage that people have tried to debunk and they try to come up. But whatever the fuck that thing is, it's showing no visible means of repulsion. It moves off at an insane rate of speed. It's documented on radar. It's documented by eyewitness accounts from multiple jets. It's documented by the instrumentation that's in the jets.

1:46:35They saw this thing. They know that this thing is operating in some way that we have no idea how to do that using conventional propulsion methods. And they said that it's a much longer video. That what they got was only a small piece of it and that there's actually much more of it that the government has. Whatever the fuck that thing is, like that to me, those are the kind of UFOs I'm fascinated by. Something that can go from above 50 ,000 feet above sea level to 50 feet in less than a second. What is that? What is that? Is that ours? Is that why it's always near military bases? Is that why it's over in San Diego off the coast of the Nimitz, where the Nimitz was?

1:47:16Was that? Is that why it's over in the East Coast where they have restricted airspace? Is that why these things are always in these places? Is it ours? I mean, if I had some sort of a super sophisticated drone technology that is above and beyond what we think of in terms of what's technologically available today, I would say it's UFOs 2. I would say, you know, we've out of this world craft. Yeah. Yeah, but some of that is reverse engineer stuff. Could be. Right. That's what I'm sorry. Or there could be a branch of physics. This is what Eric Weinstein has theorized. And the way he talks about it, it's quite brilliant.

1:47:59And he talks about this one particular college in New York, one particular university that has an insane physics department. And it's also connected to this hedge fund that does like Bernie made off numbers. That like don't seem to make sense. But so that would be a great way to get money for these things. And that you have this insane physics department. And so you have these people they if you talk like that's one of the things that Diana Pissolka talked about in her book about the people that are documents that are involved in these crash retrieval programs and supposedly involved in these back engineering programs.

1:48:31The the amount of secrecy and their adherence to secrecy is spectacular. And this idea that people can't keep secrets for the fuck they can't. Yeah. People that could keep secrets. What do you what do you think is the ultimate reason for that? Because there's a lot of ideas on why they can't release it. Because like Roswell and there's been a number of different types of Roswells, which whether that was ETs that we interacted with, whether there's some sort of alliance between other, you know, alien extraterrestrial races and what what do you think is the major fear around that releasing that?

1:49:05Well, I think there's a bunch of fears. First of all, someone is going to be held responsible for misallocation of funds. So let's say that you have defense spending, you have some private company, which is by the way, which they all think it's private companies that are involved in defense companies that are involved in this research. Like the lucky more or less or a lot. Yeah, which are much better at keeping secrets. Right. You know, then the government is and that if you have a misallocation of funds and you've lied to Congress, like someone goes to jail for that, you could, we're talking about laundering essentially could be hundreds of millions, if not billions and billions of dollars over decades.

1:49:50So who made these decisions? Did it make the decisions? Did Congress not know about it? So if they didn't know about it, they're going to want to know about it. And if they find out that you've been lying to them all this time, well, guess what? You're going to jail. So who's going to jail? Who misallocated funds? Where did the funds go? Was any of that funds filtered? Did anybody get wildly rich during this time? Was there some skimming like we think is going on in Ukraine? It was there, you know, when you have a shit load of money. But who went to jail when Rumsfeld said on September 10th, 2001, there's $2 trillion missing.

1:50:22Yeah. We're on a count for nobody. Well, they couldn't account for right? Is it interesting way of saying it? Yeah. Yeah. Nobody. Yeah. Well, also what a okay. So yeah, the Pentagon fails. It's audit every year. Yeah. It's amazing. It's great. But they just hired all those IRS agents to go after. Yeah. You have to everybody who spends more than 300 bucks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's also conversations around how it can fuck with religion, you know. And, you know, the ideologies that so many people have and belief systems, if there's, you know, say there is extra treasure life. And, you know, how many planets in the galaxy have we found now that could sustain life even in a close proximity to us?

1:51:11Yeah. Quite a few. Yeah. But Dan and Pusolka's work, what they're talking about is not even necessarily something from another planet. Perhaps something from another planet. And maybe something. No, maybe something that's from another dimension. Maybe something that's hyper advanced that has the ability to access us and can come and go as it pleases, can go in and out. So it's basically here all the time. We just can't see it because it's multi -dimension. Yeah. It's fifth dimension. It's something. And then also, I mean, some, again, this is what Bob Lazar talked about when he was on the show.

1:51:46He said, if you had brought a nuclear reactor to, you know, the 1400s, showed it to people, it'd be indistinguishable from magic. They'd be like, what the fuck is that? This is sorcery. This is crazy. But now it's just normal. As time goes on, a million years, two million years from now, if somehow or another, there's intelligent beings that have continued this evolution of technology and innovation, they're going to get to a place where it's, they have the ability to do things that are unfathomable. You can't even imagine it. Your mind is not capable of it because you don't have a point of reference.

1:52:20You don't have context. There's not pre -existing technology that leads you to make a logical bridge towards this potential. That's not the words. They talk about some of the stories in the ancient texts and then Bible. They don't have the words to explain. What a spaceship is. It's like, no, it's like a chariot in the sky. Ezekiel. When you pull up the description that Ezekiel had of the wheel within a wheel, my god, it sounds like a UFO. What a lot of people, I would like to talk to Tucker Carlson about this. Tucker Carlson has this belief too. He is talked to people about this and he thinks that it's always been here and that it's a part of existence.

1:53:04This is a part of these biblical stories of angels and devils. That's what they're really talking about. They're talking about these inter -dimensional beings and the darkest theory is one that Lazara talked about. They said something that they talked to him about when he was working on these back -engineered crafts is that what they use us as is vessels that we are souls. We hold souls and that this is essentially a farm and this is how they develop souls through us and that what our soul is. I mean, if you had to imagine what our soul is is some force, something that they farm here with us. When we die, it transcends and becomes whatever they are in whatever space they exist in.

1:53:56That's what Bob said. This is what he's talking about. This is one of the crazier stories that has to do with religion that's attached to the UFO phenomenon. It's talked to about the demonic world. What did Diana say? This is what some of these people think is that these things have always been here and they are a part of our history and that this idea that they're coming here on these metal crafts from another plant is not necessarily the whole picture. It might be some of that because we do that. We said drones to Mars. If we get to the point where we have artificial intelligence or I should say created intelligence, digital intelligence that exists in some sort of physical form that we can use in a physical craft that doesn't have the biological limitations of tissue, need oxygen, and all the things that would prevent us from being able to travel in deep space.

1:54:48You can send this thing out into the cosmos and this thing behaves like a life form. We're essentially on our way to doing that. We have a rover that's moving around on Mars right now as we speak. What is the Zekials?

1:55:05I looked. I saw an immense dust storm coming from the North and immense cloud with lightning flashing from it, a huge ball of fire glowing like bronze. Within the fire, what looked like four creatures vibrant with life, each had the form of a human being, but each also had four faces and four wings. Their legs were sturdy and straight as columns, but their feet were hoved. Like those of a calf, sparkled with the fire like burnished bronze. On all four sides under the wings, they had human hands. All four had both faces and wings with the wings touching one another. They had neither one way nor the other.

1:55:46They went straight forward. They turned neither one way nor the other. They went straight forward. Their faces looked like this in front of human face, on the right side of the face of a lion, on the left the face of an ox, and in the back the face of an eagle. So much for the faces, the wings were spread out with the tips of one pair touching the creature on either side. The other pair of wings covered its body. Each creature went straight ahead. Wherever the spirit went, they went. They didn't turn as they want. The four creatures looked like blazing fire or like fiery torches. Tunges of fire shot back and forth between the creatures.

1:56:21And out of the fire, bolts of lightning, the creatures flashed back and forth like strikes of lightning. As I watched the four creatures, I saw something that looked like a wheel on the ground beside each of the four face creatures. This is what the wheels looked like. They were identical wheels, sparkling like diamonds in the sun. They looked like they were wheels within wheels, like a gyroscope. I mean, that sounds like if you're living thousands of years ago, and by the way, you tell this story forever before it ever gets written down. I mean, there's a thousand years of oral tradition of speaking these stories before these things get written down.

1:57:00They went in any one of four directions they faced, but straight not veering off. The rims were immense, circled with eyes. When the living creatures went, the wheels went. When the living creatures lifted off, the wheels lifted off. Wherever the spirit went, they went. The wheels sticking right with them. For the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels. When the creatures went, the wheels went, when the creatures stopped, the wheels stopped. When the creatures lifted off, the wheels lifted off. Because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels. One of the things that Lazar had said, there's no instrumentation inside these things.

1:57:38They're piloting them with their minds. Think about what they're saying. When the creatures lifted off, the wheels lifted off. Because the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels. Over the heads of the living creatures was something like a dome, shimmering like a sky full of cut glass, vaulted over their heads. Under the dome, one set of wings was extended toward the others, with another wings covering their bodies. When they moved, I heard their wings. It was like the roar of a great waterfall, like the voice of the strong God, like the noise of a battlefield. When they stopped, they folded their wings.

1:58:15I mean, God damn it. That sounds like... That sounds like a UFO. Yeah, it sounds like a UFO. It sounds like some fucking insane vision that's beyond comprehension that happens to people that live in a prehistoric civilization. That's probably how you would describe it. And especially if you're telling the story over and over, and it's passed down generation to generation, and then someone writes it down in ancient Hebrew or in Aramaic, and then it has to get translated into Latin and in Greek, and then eventually to English. I mean, the whole thing is nuts. And the Vimanas, the ancient Hindu texts to talk about them.

1:58:51And the Hyalimps too. Yeah. There's a ton of examples of that. Yeah, it's likely that they've always been here. And it might be connected somehow and other to our minds. The mind which produces psychedelic chemicals might also be a gateway to other dimensions. Whatever you experience, when you experience dimethyl trip to me, which we know is produced by the brain, which is the key component of ayahuasca, you experience entities. You experience exactly what they're talking about there. Yeah. So what is that? Do we just dismiss that as hallucination? I think we legalize it and promote it and encourage people to do this.

1:59:28The aliens come. And then we realize they've been here all along. I think they've probably been here all along. I think they're probably here right now. They're just not here here. Just not here here. But they're part of this. Yeah, I agree. We just have a very limited ability to see. Do you think they're benevolent? Probably not. No. No, I don't think so. I think progress requires a lot of chaos. I think human beings, in particular, innovative creative creatures, have to have something to battle against to become their better selves. We find that in human beings. I think we probably find this probably a universal rule as far as how progress gets perpetrated.

2:00:09It probably probably gets created through battle. And not just like battle like war. I mean like battle like conflict, like competition. It seems to be that's the key driver of innovation in our world is this sort of competition with each other, which is a form of conflict in a lot of ways. You're battling the other competitors to see who can push each other the furthest and get the greatest discovery quickest. There's got to be some benevolent races though. If there's multiple races of... Perhaps benevolence is just like our desire for ultimate peace. We have this ridiculous idea that you can have good with no evil.

2:00:51And there's no real evidence for that. No, I agree. There's no real evidence as far as human society. There's been utopian groups of people that have figured it out for short periods of time. But there's circumstances that lead to utopian groups of primates. Robert Sapolsky discovered this group of orangutans that had been eating out of garbage that was in a resort. And the alpha males, the most vicious, got to eat the food first. Then they might point out. They're poisoned. So the only ones that survived were the beta males. And the beta males created this really peaceful society. And it lasted for a long time.

2:01:29So we got to wipe out the alpha male. The meek will inherit the earth. I mean, that might be with all this fucking LBGTIQA. But that's not true necessarily because they're not peaceful. Like Antifa and all this people are some of the most violent counterculture groups that we've ever seen. Yeah, I don't know about the meek inherit in the earth. I think that might be taken quite. Yeah, that a context. But it's sort of like kind of what's going on with the creators of technology. You think about who's controlling the narrative in this world. The narrative is essentially being controlled other than by X.

2:02:03Because Elon has essentially thrown a monkey wrench into the gears of where all this stuff was going. It was all adhering to a very specific ideology. There was no real like no real prevalent right wing online technological creation. Like a Google or a Facebook or a YouTube or a Twitter or all these things. Instagram. All these things are controlled by leftists. Every single one of them. And they tend to be the most feminized, the least masculine, the least at least outwardly aggressive. They promote things like toxic masculinity and they demonize what's characteristic of masculine behavior. That's the meek.

2:02:54Yeah, I mean they're kind of the meek right? They're the nerds. And the nerds are the ones who create this kind of technology and they're the ones that are in control of this technology. It's not sustainable. Well, it's definitely not because China's not that way. And they're ruthless. And if they get control of the same type of technology, we will see the same sort of results that they have in their society, which is a centralized digital currency. Social credit score. Exactly. And then we're fucked. How do you feel talking about all this stuff, being this prominent public figure who's a revered athlete, you know, like less revered now.

2:03:32Well, not really not when you kick ass. They let all that shit go. All their covish. They let go as soon as you got back on the field. I was coven MVP. I was two time MVP during coven. Exactly. They had to shut the fuck up when it comes down to the performance. Yeah. You know, and then over time, I think a lot of people that demonized you, especially the fans, they realized you were right. Yeah. Well, I don't think all of them will entirely admit that. Right. In the back of their head, they know you weren't nearly as nutty as they thought you were. Yeah. I mean, I think it's more research comes out.

2:04:00There's more papers published in very reputable scientific publications that talk about, you know, all the things that I was kind of stopping for and talking about. I think in the end, there's a you're on a decision. You stand for something. You stand courageously for what you believe in. Or the opposite side of that is either saying nothing or being a coward. And I wasn't willing to do that. Now, say whatever you want about the way I went about doing it. In the end, I made a decision. It was best for me. And I'm going to continue talking about this stuff because it's important to me. And I don't want the memories to be lost.

2:04:45I don't want what I went through to get to brushed over. And also, I don't give a fuck. You know, I've been able to make a ton of money playing the sport that I'm really good at. And I'm thankful for that. I have a platform. Some people want you to just shut up and be throw a football. And that's fine. But I think there has to be certain voices of reason. And many people say I'm an idiot. I don't have I'm not smart. I got a tack for my intelligence levels, which is interesting angle to attack me on. There's a lot of things you can say about me. But that's that's an interesting angle to go. But in the end, I believe that what I did and what I stand for is, is a tough position to be in.

2:05:29But I think it's important responsibility to continue to speak up and use my voice to give other people the permission to stand up as well. Because there's a lot of people that believe a lot of the things that I believe in. They don't have the opportunity to do it. Don't have the courage to do it. Don't have the platform to do it in. And I feel like I can speak for some of those people and hold the line for some of those people regardless of what kind of cross here. Because that puts me in with certain media members. You know, they want to shut me down on being on Mac fee. They want to shut me up from.

2:06:00Well, that was the Kimmel thing, right? Well, I would know they were talking for that. If you ever talked to him. I've been on the show. Yeah, years ago. Yeah.

2:06:10Would you would you ever have a conversation with him in person? Of course. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. I mean, they wanted me on the beyond the show in the summertime after I got traded. Really? Um, they're, you know, obviously been some things that he had said about me that made me go, I don't know if I want to do that. I'd rather, you know, maybe I have a side conversation first, iron some things out. Well, also, I don't think that conversation is a conversation that should be held in front of an audience in five minute chunks. Like they do on television. Yeah. That's a conversation that you have to let air out.

2:06:44I want to know why you think the way you think him. You know, sit down with Jimmy. Why do you think the way you think? Why would you think that it's okay to say that it's a real simple thing. The people that have been vaccinated, you treat them. And the people that took horse goo, you know, resting piece, weasy. Really? Is that really how you feel? Like people that are sick from a disease that was created in a fucking lab that was funded by our own tax dollars? That's how you feel like those people should just die because they don't trust the government or they don't trust the pharmaceutical and just real complex.

2:07:21That's been responsible for lying so many fucking times. They're literally criminal organizations. They have the, some of the biggest criminal fines in the industry of this country. Yeah. And that all of a sudden, they're the ones we're supposed to trust. The liberals were always the ones that were anti big pharma. They were the always the ones that had no trust anti big banks. Yeah. Anti big banks. All that. And then all of a sudden, yeah, all of a sudden, the ideology shifts because so many people are compromised by this very thing that we were talking about before. The very thing that they use to control the media in terms of the news, they use it to control the media in terms of late night talk shows and monologues as well.

2:08:03It's the same influence because there's the same sponsors, the same people are spending the same money on the same networks. And it has an impact. If it affects your livelihood and affects your future and your ability to do this thing that you love doing, which is hosting a talk show, and you're doing it on a network that is paid for by that money. Guess what? That affects you. If you don't think it affects you, look what they did with the number one guy on TV news. Talk across him. They fired him. He was the number one guy. And they're like, you're getting too crazy. See ya. You're asking too many questions.

2:08:43Too many questions. You're getting a little too nutty. All this talk about the CIA definitely killed Kennedy and all the talk. All the things and now you look at that guy. Now he's wild. What they've done now is it's like, what a fucking mistake firing that guy. You should have kept him there and contained him. Like letting that guy go loose and do his own show because it's not like unless you kill him. It's not like people are going to stop listening. They're going to be fast. And the impressions, you know, the people watching this stuff. It's crazy. It's way bigger now. His show is way bigger than the access.

2:09:18Nobody fucking most a lot of people are they only have cable packets. Right. They have a couple streaming services. Now you got a fucking app. You can watch. Yeah. He shit whenever you want anytime you want. Imagine that conversation that he had with that guy about Ozentvik. Imagine that being on Fox News. Yeah. You can't imagine it. No chance. Impossible. There's no fucking way. But it goes back to what he said in it. Is it they pay to control the message? Exactly. They don't, you know, they get some other advantages about pushing their medicine. But like they don't need any other help. No. You know, they have doctors who can write prescriptions about it forever.

2:09:50He keeps them from mass media or corporate media. Be careful. Because we're I mean, if you look at the amount of percentage of the, you know, of of their budgets that are paid for by pharma, it's pretty wild. It's a lot of money. And then you look at the how much bill gates has put into all the different media. Yeah. Hundreds of millions of dollars. Pretty wild too. Yeah. So why would they? So he knows, hey, unless you want the money train to turn off. But I'm sure you say the right. We're the hundred billion dollars. Oh, shit. It's a throw a few hundred million around and drop on the bucket. Don't talk shit about you.

2:10:23Yeah. That's great. Yeah. Yeah. But it's a wild world. We live in the fact that all this is true. And that this is a, this is like an arguably true. All the things we're saying is an arguably true. And that you still get labeled a conspiracy theorist for discussing it. Like, yeah, I am. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a real conspiracy theorist. Some conspiracies are really fucking idiots. And a lot of them have been fucking proven true. Yes. I mean, oh, why the fuck did that term even come into existence to dissuade questioning the JFK? Yeah. By a warrant commission basically run by Alan Delas, who was fired by JFK.

2:11:05Yeah. Well, they named the fucking airport after. I mean, come on people. Fucking. It's pretty easy to connect. It's pretty wild. It's wild stuff. I mean, if you, if you look at the real dark history, this country going back to MK Ultra and that KOS book by Tom O 'Neil, if you just get into any of that and then then then delve into the Kennedy assassin, you lose all faith. You lose all faith in the system. You just could be fucking just petrified frozen in fear. So, so that's my question is what? I mean, obviously this gives me a lot of hope like what you do and the people you have on the podcast and it's not just great conversations with the boner from Alaska or what's your name?

2:11:48Who does the traffic show, which is fucking awesome, but you give a platform of people. Yeah, she's amazing. She's amazing. But, but this gives me hope because more people listen to this and fucking watch any news stuff. So they're getting real information from interesting people who are experts in their field about stuff. But what hope can we have that shit's going to get better like serious. My hope is literally that technology will make it impossible a lot. I really think that's the battle. The battle is between people that are trying to limit our access to the truth and technology, which essentially illuminates all ignorance.

2:12:26As this technology progresses and is essentially right now at a runaway train pace, kind of out of control. And it's been there's this understanding that we have to continue in this path because if we don't try to get their first were fucked, if Russia gets their first were fucked. And so we're guns blazing towards this thing that will dissolve all access to information. It will dissolve all boundaries rather to access to information. They won't exist anymore. You'll you'll have the ability to understand the inner workings of everything. And that transparency will make it increasingly difficult for them to fuck us.

2:13:07And they're going to have to adjust accordingly. And then also people are going to die. The old people, the old guard they're going to die off. You know, when you see what's the fucking dude's name that looks like a turtle. Soros. No, the old dude. Mitch McConnell. When he fucking when he locked up. Those guys are going to die. Like it's a human reality. You're a finite life form. You only have so much time. You can only rob the world of so much before eventually your heart stops ticking. And then the new people as they come into place, these are people that are they're they're growing up with the internet.

2:13:41It's a different understanding and reality of life itself. But does you think that has to be some sort of field of value that can orient people into like, hey, let's do things a little bit better because these things actually matter. There is right and wrong. There is reality. There is certain like. Well, unfortunately, the problem with living in a secular society and living in a society that has a lot of people that are atheists that have no belief system at all is you find a belief system. And that's a lot of these people that call themselves atheists or they've subscribed to the religion of woke.

2:14:17You know, their god is equity and inclusiveness. Their god is this ideology that they think that you have to subscribe to. And that's why it's spooky because people human beings seem to have a very strong desire for some sort of order and form and some sort of pattern that they can follow. So it seems to be the right way to go and they can be led. They can be led by cults. They can be led by groups of people. They can be led by, you know, intolerant governments and evil armies and corrupt politicians. They can be led. But I think as time rolls on, people are going to understand the need to have some sort of divine structure to things, some sort of belief in the sanctity of love and of truth.

2:15:07And a lot of that comes from religion. A lot of people's moral compass and the guidelines that they've used to follow to live a just and righteous life has come from religion. And unfortunately, a lot of very intelligent people, they dismiss all the positive aspects of religion because they think that the stories are mere superstitious fairy tales that, you know, they have no place in this modern world. And, you know, we're inherently good and your ethics are based on your old moral compass. And we all have one and that's not necessarily true because you see the way people behave in war, they don't have any moral compass.

2:15:48They just fucking murders and killers. And they, we've asked people in service of our country to go to these places and behave like murders and killers and then reintegrate in society, right back into society and be a good person again. And they don't know how to do it and they go crazy. And there's a lot of them. A lot of them will come back and they don't, their down is up and up is down. They don't know what the fuck we don't help them out. We don't help them out on the suicide rate. Suicide is the, I think, is it the number one killer of veterans? Pretty sure. Yeah. But, yeah, it's a fucked up world we live in.

2:16:23We need to do, we need Jesus. I think for real. Like, if he came back now, be great. Like, Jesus, if you're thinking about coming back right now, now's a good time. Pretty soon. Yeah. Now's a good time. We're kind of fucked. Well, there's a lot of people I think that that might be coming. Well, it might be mark of the beast. That might be the aliens. I mean, that might be, that might be what all this stuff is. It might be we reach a certain point where we're so unmanageable and so chaotic that something comes down and gives us a guideline. I mean, this is what Moses essentially experienced supposedly, right?

2:16:58When he came back with his 10 commandments, this is supposedly what, you know, these people that have had these religious visions, what are they? What are the, none of the religious visions, but oh, oh my god, we're fucked. All the religious visions were, there's a way to do this. There's a guide. There's a way, a way to follow. And there's a greater power that's above everything that controls this whole thing and keeps it all together. And there's laws to adhere that will make for a much better life for all humans and all, all life on Earth. Yeah, it's hope. Hope is a, hope is a memory of the future.

2:17:34You know, it's this shit matters. Yeah. It does matter. Yeah, everything we do matters. I think if you know, atheists, I think can find their own religion. It might be religion of science or religion of climate change or whatever it might be. But, but to not believe in a higher power means that really nothing I do matters. Ultimately, I live, I die. That's it. You know, so whatever purpose you might have, it's a short lived. It's just for this. There's, there's nothing else going on. I have a hard time with that because I believe there's a scene world and an unseen world. And there's forces of good and forces of evil.

2:18:07And that there's a purpose for all this. And there's, you know, there's a lot of reasons why we're doing this. There's a lot of opportunities to do this. I'd like to get it right this time around. Yeah. That'd be nice. That'd be nice. But if, if there is the Christianity part and Jesus wants to come back and save everything. It'd be good. Right around now. Yeah. Like, don't wait till the election. Don't wait until China invades Taiwan. Don't wait until Klaus Schwab puts on his suit again. Yeah, don't wait till he gets on the Darth Vader outfit. Why was you wearing that outfit? Is there an explanation for why Klaus Schwab was dressed up?

2:18:48I think it was on Epstein's Island. Was he? No, he probably is his own island. Yeah. Yeah, it's probably under the ocean. Sorry, I'm not accusing Mr. Klaus Schwab of being on Epstein's Island. Why did you bring up Jimmy Kimmel when that whole thing was going on? I had said on the Maccabee show before they had talked about, you know, forever, they talked about releasing the Epstein list or whatever. And I had said that on the show. And he had gone on his show and called me a 10, 10 foil hat wearing, you know, Dufus who is talking about, you know, I thought he had said that I'm an idiot for even thinking that a list that's out there.

2:19:28What was he saying you're a Dufus for thinking? That there was a list was going to get released, I guess. I don't know. I don't know what it was. Why would anybody defend the people that apparently were on that list? Because it is a real list. There was something about. Yeah, there was something that a conversation that Pat was having about about this list coming out. And we were talking about as a distraction to something else. And I was referring to the list being that they're being a list and it coming out. He might have said, might have been thinking that I'm not going to be able to do that.

2:20:00I was trying to connect a distraction that was going on with the list being released. So I just said, you know, so when you were saying that he doesn't want that list to come out, you weren't saying that he was on that list. No, no. Okay. See, that was a lot of people. If they saw it out of context, they know nobody watched the fucking clip. That's why they just saw a headlock very. Oh, it's the anti -abac sky again. Let's fucking hammer. Right. But if someone saw that out of context, you could see how an I thought that you were saying. Oh, yeah. I saw it out of context. I was like, I'm not sure if I was going to be able to do that.

2:20:30I'm not sure if I was going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if I was going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if I was going to be able to do that. I'm not sure if I was going to be able to do that. There's a lot of corporate offices going into the unfavailable pattern designed to treat the corrupt lipopularies out of context. I thought that you were saying that Jimmy Kimmel's on that list, because a lot of celebrities were on that list. Well, the list hasn't even been released yet. But whatever he was one task, one text of like one victim, there's a hundred victims. Nobody's gotten right.

2:20:46You're talking about people going to jail. No one's gotten a jail you know, who who, I mean, Elaine Maxwell was charged in and then jail for trafficking to nobody. Right. Which is wild. Yeah, like, look, and I said this when I, when I back on the show, like, that's a big fucking accusation that I wouldn't make. And I said, Jimmy, I'm glad you're not on the list. And all I'm asking is, let's have the same energy for you talking about the Vax and people, if you're not Vax, just being left to die about these people on the list because it's fucked up. And what goes on at the top of this shit and why people were going to Epstein's Island and all the conspiracies about whether he was a Mossad member and Galein and her father and all the weird connections.

2:21:31Like, I'm for all corruption in all forms being taken down. I don't give a fuck if you're on the right side on the left side, whatever. Like, expose it. And especially if you're doing crazy, you should like to that the kids like fucking. It seems like it was an intelligence operation. It seems like, of course. You had the gas, they were compromising, powerful and influential people and they could use that to control all sorts of narratives and to make all sorts of decisions. I mean, how many people, those guys that are CEOs that had given him money, hundreds of millions of dollars, the fact that you would walk in the foyer of his house in New York City and Bill Clinton's wearing a fucking dress and a painting.

2:22:11You know, and Bill Clinton was in a flying bush painting. Yeah, yeah. It's some weird shit. It's weird. It's very weird. It's all very creepy. And the fact that it was a real place, I told you, like, I was telling people that Alex Jones told me about that a long time ago. I thought it was out of his fuck mind. There's a place they take him, they compromise him, they have sex with kids and look, what? You're fucking impressed. It's so good. I'm not that guy forever. I know that guy before he talked like that. He did voice over this, scraggly, all the years of tequila and vodka. But I thought it was nuts and it turned out to be true.

2:22:45It turned out to absolutely be true. And it's still, there's no effort whatsoever to try to get to the bottom of it. Find out who the people were and why they were there. And there's no, like, real, hardcore congressional investigation of what was being done, how are they being influenced to what was it about? Why do you think that is? Some fucking powerful people on that list, Jack. And also, they don't want to fuck with this mechanism that they have that has been proven to be effective. If there was an Epstein's Island, which there was, and if they could be other ones, Steve, for sure, for sure, why wouldn't there be?

2:23:25He didn't kill himself either. He definitely didn't. No, I don't think he did. Did you ever see that congressional hearing? What is this? Elaine Maxwell could make millions from Jeffrey Epstein's scandal. How's that? Right in the book. How is that lady alive? She says any, she can take all profits, including any documentary's podcasts and films that come from the book. She only has a 20 -year sentence. Does she get out, how many years she's been in there? Good behavior. Yeah. In two years. Or if someone comes along and fucking pardons her? Hmm, she's appealed. She's maintained her innocent. Has appealed her conviction.

2:24:02It isn't she in light to a real nice cushy jail where you get to do yoga and stuff and stuff that bad? Probably. The whole thing's confusing. Did you ever see the congressional hearing or whatever it was when they had the head of the prison in there talking about what was going on to like, how come nobody was guarding itself? How come the cameras were off? How come he has a fractured neck? That's indicative of ligature strangulation. Yeah. Well, the one famous Dr. Michael Baton. Yeah, did the autopsy. He said he's been murdered. By the way, your dog's been farting like crazy. Is he? He smells so bad.

2:24:38He's doing pretty farting. I don't want you to think that was me. He smells like he farts some sort of. He's a dog. Yeah. He's a dog's farting. No, he didn't need any agent food. He eats raw food. Boy, that changed. By the way, folks, feed your dog real food. So many people are feeding their dog kibble. That's tough. The reason why I can sit on the shelf for so long, it's because it's not real food. It's garbage. What do you feed them? Is that I'm about to get a dog? I want to. I feed them something called Mave, M -A -E -V. It's frozen raw food. So it's frozen meat, and it has vegetables in it, and blueberries, and stuff like that.

2:25:19And man, he gobbles it up, and it's changed his body. He lost a ton of weight. He was getting kind of thick, unfortunately. And I'd exercise him a lot. But you know, give him what he wants to eat, and he eats a lot of it. And then you're like, is this stuff good for you? It's expensive. It's the best dog food. It says dog food. It says the purest ingredients. But if you could just sit on a shelf, you wouldn't eat that? Like if you had poptarts forever, your body's going to fall apart. And a lot of dogs are getting cancer these days. So this is a company called Farmer's Dog, and Jamie Feets is Dog That.

2:25:52It's all real food, too. There's quite a few companies that do that now. And what it is is just real food, real meat, and real vegetables and stuff. And man, it's changed his energy level. He was getting like gray hairs in his face. They went away. It's like he went backwards in time. Have you got him on the red light bed yet? No, no, no, no. He gets a lot of exercise, though. He's got a nice big yard. We, I was throw the ball to him for quite a while before I take him here. So he's tire amount a little bit. Yeah, whenever he takes him somewhere, he got to like wear him out first. He's, unfortunately, he's not good on a leash.

2:26:27Marshall's quite a polar. But I can see that. He's just fucking, it's got a lot of energies. It's enthusiastic dog. But he's the best. He's such a sweet dog. And we see him like everybody who meets his best friend. Yeah. And everybody loves him. So he's just used to him. We bonded. Really quick. Rub my belly. Yeah, as soon as he sees me, he drops down. I was like, I know you want to rub me. Yeah. A big smile on his face. He's got a ground with this too. I'm sorry he's farting on you, though. That's all good. I love dogs. Well, listen, brother, I appreciate you, appreciate you out there. I appreciate your courage to talk about these things that are important.

2:26:59And for you, and obviously, it doesn't hurt that you're fucking awesome at football. Well, I'm going to be back this year, hopefully back to my always. Hope that gets you, you and Jamie out to them. Yeah, we'll go for sure. Yeah, as soon as you're back, man. But I appreciate you having me on again. My pleasure, brother. I fucking love, love the show. Love the episodes. Love what you're all about. And appreciate having you as an ally in this whole thing. Thank you. I appreciate you too. All right. Goodbye, everybody.