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The Joe Rogan Experience - Episode #2110 with Fahim Anwar
Episode Overview In this episode of "The Joe Rogan Experience," Joe Rogan welcomes stand-up comedian, actor, and podcast host Fahim Anwar. The discussion dives into Fahim's career journey, his move to Austin during the pandemic, and the unique comedy scene in the city. They explore Fahim's new comedy special "House Money," his creative process, and the evolving landscape of stand-up comedy. Throughout the episode, Rogan and Anwar discuss a range of topics from the evolution of comedy clubs to the challenges of managing fame in the digital age.
Key Topics and Discussions
Fahim Anwar's Journey in Comedy
- Fahim recounts moving to Austin during the pandemic to continue performing stand-up amidst restrictions.
- Discusses his early career, including his parents' reaction to his profession and the impact of being booed at the Apollo Theatre.
- Shares the significance of his "Tonight Show" performance as a therapeutic moment for him and his family.
The Austin Comedy Scene
- Joe and Fahim delve into the vibrant comedy scene in Austin, emphasizing the scene's growth and the supportive community.
- Discussion of Joe Rogan's comedy club, The Mothership, and its impact on the local and national comedy scenes.
- Exploration of the unique features and setup of The Mothership, designed with input from comedians to enhance the performance experience.
The Evolution of Stand-Up Comedy
- The shift from traditional media like Comedy Central and Netflix specials to platforms like YouTube and social media for comedy exposure.
- Fahim's approach to developing and promoting his comedy special via non-traditional means.
- The importance of clips and social media in reaching new audiences and the implications of being shadowbanned on platforms like Instagram.
Creative Process and Performing
- Fahim discusses his writing process, emphasizing the importance of systems and being adaptable.
- The development of his show "Fahim Works on Stuff & His Friends Drop By" as a creative outlet during the pandemic.
- Joe and Fahim discuss the significance of bombing in comedy and how it helps comedians refine their craft.
The Impact of Technology and Social Media
- The role of technology in comedy and communication, especially during and post-pandemic.
- Discussion on the balance between using social media for promotion and managing personal well-being.
- Fahim's experience with having one of his dance routines used in the game Fortnite.
Additional Insights
- Reflections on how evolving platforms have changed the trajectory and opportunities for comedians.
- Discussions on past gigs and the different avenues comedians use to gain exposure and connect with audiences.
- Joe and Fahim exchange thoughts on various entertainment forms and their personal experiences in the industry.
Memorable Quotes
- "I love when people love things." – Fahim Anwar
- "Fame should be a byproduct, not the goal." – Fahim Anwar
- "Comedy's the only art form that's below jazz on Spotify." – Fahim Anwar
Conclusion This episode provides a deep dive into Fahim Anwar's journey in comedy, highlighting his resilience and adaptability in an ever-changing industry. Joe and Fahim explore the essence of stand-up comedy, the impact of technology, and the evolving nature of fame and success in the digital age. The episode is a blend of humor, insightful reflections, and discussions about the future of comedy, making it a compelling listen for comedy enthusiasts and creators alike.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:03The Joe Rogan Experience Showing my day Joe Rogan podcast my night all day My man. How are you? Good to see you brother. Good to be back. Thank you for having me. I miss you too. I used to get to see you every week. I thought about that the other day like yeah. Yeah. You forget that that that's like a period of time and it's not gonna be forever sometimes you know. Yeah well It almost was you were the one of the first people to take the trip out here was it was clear as day when I first came out I'm like why wouldn't you be out here? Because I remember I had this writing job right and saw this like on zoom every day and Life kind of sucked because you couldn't go out so I was just trapped in my house right and then in between a lunch break I'm on Instagram and I see Tony you know Tony Hincheless Post.
0:48He's this is like in the infancy of him him coming out here He's like sold out Anton's you know what I mean? It seemed like this Bizarre universe where like life is still happening and I love stand -up so much Mm -hmm, and I just kind of miserable and I'm like if this is happening out there I can do stand -up so then I started asking questions I hit up the EPs. I'm like, yeah, cuz we're on zoom could I Could I just write from Austin just zoom by day and then do stand -up out here with like all you guys at night? And they're like we don't see why not so it was awesome. I got an apartment out here.
1:21I would zoom by day I would just be doing awesome shows at Vulcan and stuff at night. It was it felt like a life hack It was a life hack. Yeah, it was great. I'm so glad I did that. Have you been to the mothership yet? Of course do yeah, it's amazing I got to do um I think you're on vacation then Adam had me do where you normally do in the middle of the week Oh, yeah, the Tuesday Wednesday Thursday so I got to do like six shows and that beautiful big room both rooms are great, you know, I like that small one for Working on stuff. It's kind of like the belly. It's very much like it the small rooms in combination of the belly and the OR It's a little bit bigger than the belly room and a little more Locked in yeah, the belly room and then the big room is like combination of the OR in the main room That's what I tell everybody cuz to go what's it like and it is it's like if those rooms had babies like they're in the middle of both of all three of those rooms.
2:15They're both perfect. Yeah, they're the perfect size You know, it's kind of funny. I think the store has started to like get a facelift because of what you've done at mothership Because so many comics would come back and be like yeah, they just give you all your sets You know what I mean the sounds amazing like cuz it's so state of the art Well, there's also the screens in the green room that show you what's going on on stage and the time you can't miss your spot Yeah, you can't miss your spot and there's lights everywhere Yeah, so let you know there's lights and there's two sets of lights in the hallway one in the beginning of the hallway one of the top of the stairs You always know when the guys got the light.
2:48Yeah, so I think and if you have any suggestions by the way Just throw them out. We'll use them. Okay half of the Club is built on suggestions What you can tell you know, I think it was Tony's idea to have the lights in the green room It might have been Tony's idea also to have the monitors in the green room. It was Louis idea to lower the ceiling It was Louis idea to change the size of the stage in the little room and lower the ceiling in the little room to How big was the stage before Louis suggested the chain? It was like four feet more on each side too big Yeah, it was too big. It was too big.
3:22He was right. Yeah, it's like why do you have all this extra stage? You don't release the intimate room like yeah, you're right, but it was just You know, we just kind of like walked into this empty space when it was just a movie theater So when it was a movie theater It was we had to change everything right so we changed the way the stairs are so in the movie theater the stairs slant way down at a steep angle Right, so you could all watch the big screen We raised the floor up so we had to build a concrete Like a rebar and concrete floor so it's a totally different floor. Yeah, it's crazy We raised it up until and then Louis wanted me to lower the ceiling even more so I did that as well after the fact It was all said and done.
4:00No, it wasn't all said and done. We were in the middle of everything luckily We we did have to recut the stage in the small room because we it was the but the concrete hadn't been poured yet So they just had to recut the steel and put it on but it's very interesting It's very interesting. I've never been a part of building anything like that before Yeah, you could tell though because you're a stand -up of several years You could tell it was designed by a comedian. It's all done with comics Yeah, because comics input and also Richard the architect who was amazing Shout out to Richard. Why he's the man.
4:32He's the man. He's so good. I'll have him on the podcast some days a really interesting guy and He he also came up with the idea of making the tunnel. Oh the tunnels. The shit. Yeah, yeah It's such a cool hangout the whole thing's just such. It's all just set up just for a hang Uh -huh, you know, but it feels good the most valuable asset to comedians especially nowadays is getting that footage dude The footage is big. Yeah, it's uh and then also it's like really high quality Yeah, it's 8k the sounds great So I've been pushing for that at the store and I think they're starting to it's just it's just a process but I also have to put people's phones and bags so they pay attention People are so goddamn distracted me included.
5:11It's so hard just sit there It's one of the things that I love about podcasts is there's four three hours. I'm not gonna see what's going on the world I'm locked in I don't have to think about other things and I'm really lucky I think it's a form of therapy in a weird way in this bizarre digitally sort of Intertwined world you can't escape it and I can never escape it It's so hard to get away from emails and text messages and it's just I cannot keep up I have 185 unanswered text messages. Are you good about clearing them or do you just you have all that red? I have to clear them. I have this OCD thing where I need to have a clean.
5:50I can't have red. Okay, it's 183 183 unanswered How how do I do well? You're a popular guy do no no how do you keep up? You can't oh It's hard for you. I can keep up. I can keep I'm always surprised like for how busy you are and like what a figure you are Like how quickly you respond still You I will thank you. Thank you But I have friends and people who are much lower than you in the pantheon of things who take so much longer Sometimes I do take long though for my doing something. Yeah, there's there's times well come home There's 60 text messages and there's not a chance in hell that I can just bang all those out Right, just otherwise I'll go insane.
6:29That's that's what I'm saying. It's just like It's not that I have too many people contacting me. It's not that's how it is It's you find a fucking excuse to use that thing Oh the phone is the phone you find excuse. It's cool to be in contact with people. It's fun I like that. I love the text messages. I have between friends Send in each other memes talking shit. It's fun. Yeah silly. It's silly fun It's it's a nice relief when RE sends me a funny thing, you know or says something funny It's a nice little relief the text thread. You're in their grid. You live for the text thread Yeah, we got a few of those text threads going on between me and comics and it's the most fun thing man All right, it's just yeah the fucking phone runs your goddamn life dude It does and it's like it's made it so Especially if you're a person who like if you're booking shows you have to you know You've been contact with your agent you have to be in contact with with the opening acts.
7:27You got it, you know It's a tool for everything. It's like I got I got a doc you sign something. I have to edit a video I have to post it on tiktok have to post it on Facebook. I've to post it on it's literally a computer It's like you have to never ends. You know what's the most hilarious thing to me is when you have to sign things online Like it's such bullshit. It's an exercise in everyone's believing fake signature It's not even my real signature. It's a fake signature like a doc you sign. Yeah, and you just agree that you're gonna accept that as your signature You say okay, and you click it and then it's your signature is just Joe Rogan in text.
7:59There's one That's a signature. There's one way around that. It's um if you have like a Samsung Galaxy S24 ultra They're new phone it has a stylus that's built into the phone and you can use it to sign PDFs Somebody care enough to be buying that phone just to sign documents. No, but you can sign all kinds of stuff Like you can write on it like a notepad. It's really fascinating. It's a very fast and any piece of text We're going back to Palm Pilot. We've gone full circle a little bit But it also allows you to take photographs so you could use it as a shutter So you could like stand across the room and take a photo yourself or a video and you press that button and it starts recording and it starts Or it's like an old timey.
8:39Yeah, whatever. Just put a blanket over you Do they still do that? Do they have like a Graze - I think there's some some kid in silver lake who's like yo pose everybody. It's some cool barn. He has to flash Yeah, I used to get fascinated by this one dude who would make old timey wooden farm tools This episode is brought to you by Buffalo trace distillery actually have some Buffalo trace cigars here They just sent me one of the world's most award -winning distilleries that's been making whiskey the same way for more than two Hundred years made as a tribute to the rugged free spirited pioneers who blaze their own trail to new frontiers It embodies the perfectly untamed spirit of independence It defines what an award -winning bourbon should be aged nearly twice as long as competitors in new charred White oak barrels and bottled at 90 proof Buffalo trace is the perfect bourbon to be enjoyed in any way Anywhere and the taste it's damn good.
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10:37He made all of his tools. Who's the market for that me? I watched that show. I couldn't stop watching it is but like when he makes the tools is there a market to buy those or is it novel? Sure, I think it's novelty. I bet went at the time This was pre -internet or maybe like the internet was just starting But this guy had a cool show and I just watched it all the time. I love when people love things That's what I figured out about me. It doesn't even have to be something that I love But I love when people love things and that's when I've really got into Bourdain show because I was like god damn this dude loves food He loves cooking loves cuisine.
11:17Is that me or you're the distinct? I think to you I'm an airplane man. I respect the format. I usually do bro Come on. I think I'd be so bold to know Instagram makes the photos that way with a truck He turned a whole truck into a a camera essentially Oh, that's the process of it is crazy. So like it could be a miss sometimes because I how much work he's doing this Imagine trying to convince these women it's a camera and not some creepy. Oh, yeah No, no, it's a camera. Psycho just come into the woods and pose for me So he turned his truck into a camera. Yeah, he built his own camera and it like it the whole thing is like the the dark room You know everything and then just a chemical process.
11:55It makes really cool photos on like on metal He's printing them right to metal. Whoa, that is kind of the most of photos we have is like a transfer to metal These are directly to metal. Is that how they first started making photos? They put them on metal I don't think it was metal oil plates. Yeah, I think it would be plates nice returning. Oh, that one didn't work Yeah, so he's just throwing it. Yeah, hey dude don't litter Yeah, he's down on the face. I know you're mad that you're fucking homemade camera doesn't work But better pick that up bitch. That's the beauty of you. Do you know imagine that the edges littered?
12:23Yeah You think that's not true? You can't litter in those places, bro. There's too many people visit think about how many people visit like national parks It looks so important not litter No one's going in there cleaning up after you fucking animals Don't do it. Don't litter and you're in the woods man my friend Adam Greentree He goes on these big backpacking hunts where he'll go into the like Montana mountains Colorado mountains for like a month at a time and he's just picking up bags of people's shit that they left behind bags of empty water bottles bags of trash and he just brings a bag with them and he collects it while he's out there hunting He's it's disgusting nice of him to do It's fun to stuff out there.
13:04So disturbing though that people do that It's it's the worst aspect of us this just total willingness Through completely being selfish of just destroying one of the most amazing things we have in this country Which is national parks and public lands and place where you could just walk out into the woods Yeah, there's tons of places in this country where you can just go on a hike in the fucking woods With bears and moose and all kinds of shit you can just go out there man Hopefully you know what you're doing but nobody really tests you No one says hey for him how long can you hike before you die?
13:46Let's find out hey for him Did you do you do you do an any cardio at all hey for him? Do you know how to use a compass? Hey for him. Do you guys have fucking something to start fire with? Well, that's when you make the local news and then there's a file photo of me and like the search has been on for six days Bro, it's so hard to stay alive It's so hard. Yeah, I've never like stayed alive You know, I'm obviously just talking on my ass, but I have been camping and one of the things that you realize when you go camping If you just go camping just a few nights in a row you're like like what? Fucked bitches people are these animals.
14:20They sleep on the ground every night. They don't give a fuck Yeah, they're out there wild. There's no doors. There's no borders and they have all these defense mechanisms They developed to protect them from predators because of that because there's no hiding Every day is war if you're fucking dear every day is like listening for branches snapping. Yeah, that's just life Every day, we're I was like I was snorkeling at Hawaii and you get to see all that marine life down there And I just saw the sea turtle so peaceful and then part of me was like He doesn't have to worry about rent or any you know, he doesn't have to make money to exist Which was like an interesting concept, but he has so many other problems too He's got problems.
15:00He's got problems But there's just something about like that being enough for this turtle. It's just kind of floating Whereas like I got to get a job. I got to go on tour. I got to make money. I have to have an apartment I have to you know, I mean all these things humans need to do to exist The turtles are residual effective evolution. It's no longer necessary But we think they're beautiful. I think they're beautiful man. We think they're cool. Cool guys They live on turtle you like hey bro. This design is not gonna survive man I can watch a turtle eat lettuce forever. Doesn't still own still have his turtle from Rocky Who's it that old it's old man.
15:33They've had a long time. I had turtles. I had to get rid of them when I had babies Because turtles are dirty little creatures. Yeah, I don't want to have that stuff around but they were ruthless I would slowly ruthless no, I would feed them goldfish Dude I had piranhas at one point in time Of course you did. That's like the most joe -rogan pet and uh They were not nearly as ruthless as these fucking turtles. Yeah Look at that. Rocky's still got the same turtle 44 years old Wow Turtle looks great. He looks 10. I'm sure they're not dead yet They think that right I bet they do because tortoises live like a thousand years don't they?
16:12Something I think sea turtles live a long fucking time too, which is like the saddest thing We see people kill him and eat him and he'll be like oh But how do you know how how tasty if they're doing that? I think so. It's another thing with like shark fin soup and you're like how good must it be? Uh aquatic turtles will can commonly live 20 to 30 years in captivity But many commit live much longer tortoises are alone. Oh some estimated to live 100 to 150 years So it's not tortoises. Is it sea turtles that live forever? Who the old ones? So some of them can live up to 250 years What about uh sea turtles?
16:50Maybe it's sea turtles. Do you think there's like They're really old a family that has a turtle. It's been in the family for generations Like it's 249 years old. Wow. That's a great great grandfather. That's a solid question. That'd be awesome I think there's sharks that are alive today that are the oldest living creatures I think there's sharks They estimated up to oh, sorry good 10 ,000, 1000 years right? Okay, that's surviving. I was reading it wrong. Sorry Too many words. Life span five 100 years, but there's one turtle. There's some fucking turtle that they think it's really old Estimate up to 500 years old.
17:31Oh, okay. Here's one right here. I don't know. I mean that's look old. No, you know You never see a turtle. You're like this large turtles. That's what I'm talking about 500 years old. That's fucking bonkers man That's like pre -George Washington wrap your head around that you're a baby turtle You're just fucking chill and all of these boats pull up. Yeah, this isn't gonna be anything Do you think some of these turtles are not that progressive because they're pretty old and they they have a bandage? Super conservative. Yeah, yeah, they probably watch Fox News. They're like women are wearing pants.
18:02What is it? This isn't happening when I when I came up. Yeah, you ever see uh There's a snapping turtle. What do they what do they call them? The really crazy looking ones. It's like a dinosaur looking thing It's a type of snapping turtle, but there's like a gator snapping turtle I think maybe that's what they call an alligator snapping turtle. It's crazy looking to you can't believe it's a real creature And these assholes are big and up and you're like, bro If you fuck up that thing's taking your hand It's take a man literally taking your hand. They're big. Yeah, I wouldn't do that. Jesus Look at that fucking mouth, but there's some big ones.
18:41Look at that one in the look at the size of that one That's what I'm talking about like that guy has that guy's out of his fucking mind If that mark gets a hold of one of those fingers that shit is so gone You're trusting your grip. Look at that thing man. You're trusting your grip. It's nose Bro Fuck all that that is a monster if that was big and storming into a village in Mongolia A thousand years ago in some crazy movie He'd be like, oh my god. You have some Lord of the Rings type movie. Yeah, that would exactly Would it would look like and dude be guys with straps around that thing riding it.
19:18Oh, yeah That's that like those scenes in the movies. Yeah, where the heroes are against the wall But then the people riding these things come in from the side. Yeah But we're so weak. What is humans? Humans. Yeah, we're so weak. It's what an amazing trade off though But we have bombs. Yeah, we have guns. We have everything. We have houses. We have cars. We have so many different things We way made up for it But isn't it interesting that as you make up for it You have to give away your physical defenses We're the most vulnerable a good house cat could fuck you up A house For sure a rat the size of a house cat could fuck you up.
20:00You'd be so scared of that. I thought this video You know, you see videos on Twitter and stuff this guy in New York. There's a possum just on the side of this building And then and then this this white guy helps the neighborhood out. He just grabs it off the wall and it's like And everyone's just thanking this guy and he just knows how to handle the possum and he walks it down the street And he just like throws it into an alley Yeah, my dog Marshall likes possums. That's that's a person to grow up in a farm. That lady just grabs it This is a sub -genre on the internet That's just awesome. She knew exactly what the fuck she was doing look at her walk out confidently Look at her she's not confident and shit hold it out of that wild rat like does she have experience?
20:39I would she must She must unless it's hers. That's true. Maybe it's like a youtube guy like my bad guys. She's got it He's like possums like up. You got a little crazy Roscoe Out Roscoe weren't in Applebee's come on Roscoe they have a disease a very specific disease, right? Don't don't possums have like something nasty I think they have something that I was worried because my dogs got them a couple of times. Yeah, they just lock up They don't even fight back. They get scared. Yeah, no, they've lock up. They play possum Also, that's where it comes from yeah, it's a weird response. So mean the possums have the same They don't know if it's a response to escape coyotes because coyotes sometimes will kill you and not eat you immediately and Maybe there's some sort of an evolutionary advantage to playing dead and they leave you there But you're not actually dead and so they give up on trying to eat you yet She got a toxoplasmosis toxoplasmosis and then something called leptos Yeah All kinds of bad shit Coxidisus how do you say that first one?
21:47Coxid Deosis is come on dude. Do you want to college? I mean I'm studying this. I'm studying possums I just heard that Cox Coxidiosus Microscopic parasite found an opossum feces spreads a disease known as Coxy diocese When opossums are immune to this disease there are carriers and spread it to other animals Hmm diarrhea Bloody diarrhea dehydration weight loss general decline in health if untreated can result in complications or death Oh shit Death by parasites you know what they give you when you get parasites what I've wrecked. Oh really? Yeah Um, yeah, that's what it's originally for Oh dogs are susceptible this one dogs are susceptible to lepto leptoslerosis Yep leptosporosis bacterial infection Through contact with a possum urine or contaminated water both pets and humans can so it doesn't I wonder if that means if they bite them If they bite them, they definitely can get toxophe eat them So the moral of stories just stay away from possums if you can right?
22:52I would imagine toxos the wildest yeah Do you know that they think that somewhere um in some places like at France at one point time 50 % of the population was positive for toxo? No, why from what cats? Uh from feral cats feral cats leave cat shit around and that's why they tell pregnant women never touch cat litter It's it could read it's really bad for the kid if the woman's pregnant and she gets toxo But it's a parasite that infects your brain and The wildest thing about is what it does to rats Because it rewires the rat sexual reward system this parasite does and gets the rat horny for cat piss So the cat is like pissing somewhere the rat finds where the cat's pissing and he's literally erect Is he has fucking the liquid or what?
23:39No fear of cats Zero fear of cats their fear of cats completely goes away to the point where they pursue cats So the cats eat the rats because toxo can only grow and can only reproduce inside the cats digestive tract So inside inside the cats gut it's reproducing the cat shits it out And then the cycle repeats itself the rats eat it the rats eat the cat shit rats always eat shit They get toxo they give it to other cats There's just cycle and it gets to people and it makes people reckless It makes it's a disproportionate amount of high instances of toxo are connected to successful soccer teams How do you know so much about toxo like I'm fascinated by it.
24:22There's this guy Robert Sapolsky out of Stanford see at Stanford Brilliant guy, but he did all this work on toxo plasma So it's one of the things they found when he was a resident or maybe one of his friends. It was a resident They found that there was a disproportionate amount of motorcycle victims who tested positive for toxo So they started testing motorcycle victims for toxo and they found that there's a disproportionate amount Enough to indicate that there's probably something going on there that maybe the toxo makes people more reckless That's a weird how that can make you do that It's not stupid.
24:58You know, it's thinking how many people have feral cats how many people probably have it You can have it and not even have any idea have no inclination that you have it I'm gonna get tested for toxo. He's just a little cook. Look dude. I had it the whole time. He's just a little cuckoo It's a 40 % population in America 40 % so much 40 % as toxo up to could be 16 to 40 % Let's just say it's only 16 you know nuts that is it's it's a parasite that affects your affects your behavior That's so bananas. I know How nuts is that pretty and most people aren't even aware of that Get tested guys. This is a good PSA get tested for toxo.
25:36Yeah, it's uh What are the side effects or what are the effects? I know there's like a loss of Inhibition. I think it comes with it something along those long maybe that's good More you have the stage toxo just makes you fearless as a comedian. Well, that you know Good head injuries good for that too. Yeah, good injury. Good head injury We're in a younger Like you wouldn't recommend it but two of the all -time great said like big head injuries and they turned it into Kinesen and Rose and Rose and I don't know she had a head injury. She had hit by a car. Yeah Uh -huh Adam the vine got hit by a car too.
26:10Oh Jesus. Yeah. Yeah. I think he broke his bones. Oh my god. He's a kid. That's so scary Yeah, I've been watching more car accidents because of Instagram than at any other time in my life Instagram just wants to show you people dying well X2 man X2 it will X is everything X has porn on it which is So wild that during the time where they were trying to take people take their accounts away for COVID Information that they didn't think was correct at the time They were allowing like hardcore point right now you forget it's the wild while west on there And I'm not saying they shouldn't sure. I'd love it.
26:47It's the wild while it's such a whiplash like I'll be watching a cat video And then it's just some guy You know getting hit by a car. I'm like Jesus. Yeah, give me a minute. Let me brace myself and Instagram knows that I watch those It's serving you up knows your house. Yeah, there's a lot of these I'm not even following these accounts You like this guy dying you may like this guy Yeah, it's like it's weird like should your feed be only people you follow or should they show you a bunch of shit Well, that's what these companies are struggling with because when it was all just your circle People weren't consuming as much as the suggested videos You know, it's funny is like I got shadow banned on Instagram for like around Thanksgiving What did you do hardly anything?
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27:29And it's it sucks because I'm trying to do a special via non -traditional means You know like it's not Netflix. It's not Comedy Central like this is a model now because of like you and you to like This is a viable alternative to like the Netflix Comedy Central special whatever So it's like you need the power of these social media companies to reach people So like doing podcasts and you do the YouTube special that's like an arm of it And then you disseminate RAs you feel it's like been very helpful with like trying to suffer Lisa special So you like chop it up in the clips like this is what I did in my last one, you know And you just chop up because most people are gonna Access you via clips like everyone has time for 30 seconds Right because the hour long specials kind of for jazz heads You got to be a real stand -up comedy nerd to like sit down and watch an hour.
28:17It's for real I was talking to this good vinyl. I swear it is because like I was talking to Roy Wood Jr And like sometimes because we're in stand -up we just think it's the world Because it is our world and we think that it translates to the rest and he kind of He like birds. I viewed it for me. He's like, yeah, when you go on Spotify Stand -up is under jazz You know what I mean? He goes as an art form. It's under jazz Jazz is more popular and I'm like It kind of put everything into focus for me where you know, I don't have to be as invested I'm like, okay, there's a ceiling to what you can do.
28:55But anyway you I need the clips like I need the arm of the clips because Uh, I had some clips to like 12 mil and stuff and people were able to find me via Instagram Reels So when they shadow band me like it tells you you can look at your account status and there'll be marks on there It'll say um there's like three strikes and stuff and then one of the things that said is Your content will not be shown to non followers and that's kind of how the machine works like your stuff gets suggested To people who may not have known about you. So you need that as an artist if you want to grow Like to see your special and your stand -up.
29:34So you're you're being suppressed. You're being limited How do you know you were shadow band? Cause uh it tells you on your account status and then I had people talking to people who work IG or meta or whatever and they're like yeah, it's shadow band. Um, what did you do? I think it's because it's an election cycle or something like it's not even a human doing it I think it just scrapes for buzzwords and just blank it Has these suppression on it. So I had this joke sounds so creepy Well, it's a it sucks because there's no nuance to it. It was just a joke You know my feed him works on stuff show.
30:09I do it on YouTube sometime where I'm just working on material I just do it to feed the algo and sometimes there's a great joke that works And I just post it on a real because it's like 80 % of the way there and I'm just feeding the algo so this joke I post I posted on all of them, you know, I do a clip and then I post it on all the social media platforms So it remained on TikTok and all the other ones was fine and usually TikTok is very draconian like they don't like because it's mostly kids So the joke it's a I just go it's a non -sequitur, you know, just I don't know where I'm like I just I just want to let you guys know Hamas is hiding in my ex -girlfriend's house That's the joke.
30:46It's like saying something without saying something. Yeah, it's just you know It's a joke and like oh my god, we can't have jokes about that. Yeah, well, that's all I said Oh my god, and then I think it just saw Hamas on the thumbnail This episode is brought to you by Life Lock Tax season is already stressful. You shouldn't have to worry about identity theft on top of everything else And trust me it's a big worry Especially since during tax season your sensitive info does a lot of traveling to places you can't control It goes through payroll your accountant or your tax consultant and countless other data centers on its way to the IRS Any of them can expose you to identity theft because they all have the info on your W2 Just the ticket for criminals to steal your identity.
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33:56So any mention of Hamas gets you shot a bit as always? Yes, yeah pretty much. I think it just it's this machine learning or whatever it is Just scraping the internet for like buzzwords So that was like a hot button issue and stuff and there's no new wants applied to the situation or the joke So it just sees Hamas and then my account got hit like that. So is it any joke about Hamas or just mentioning? I don't think The joke was even taken into consideration. I think they just saw Hamas on a thumbnail or Hamas on a caption Not knowing that it's a guy on stage doing a joke right and there's layers to the yes I tried to appeal it and then it was just stuck in review forever.
34:35So Nothing was gonna happen like I was I was pretty much fucked I know influencers in LA and stuff and I was like and sometimes when they're pretty high up on IG They have a contact or something more than a nebulous Because you can't these companies are so there's no point person. I think it's like that for a reason So They tried to help me out. They had a guy and we're going back and forth and nothing was getting done And luckily I met a large agency like a talent agency and they were going at it too trying to help And like just a week ago it got lifted Because yes, and then so the joke is up whereas before it wasn't so it's like it didn't even happen It's like I had someone voucher me and then they like hands were off.
35:17It was fine But only because I had the might of this talent agency if I was like a regular guy I would just be fucked. Well that is the thing about an agency can get in contact with someone who you know There's a value in that for sure. Yeah so much But you also have to realize from their perspective they're managing at scale literally billions of people Yes, so I mean Facebook and Instagram are all the same company writes all meta So like how many how many meta customers are there? Let's just guess so many. Well isn't like a small nation When you add up how many face I don't think it's very small nation.
35:51I think it's I think it's a really big one I think it's a really big one. I want to say it's north of two billion. Yeah That's a big -ass country, but it's it's it's an imperfect solution Active users users on meta products. Yeah, 3 .19 billion Yeah, that's so many people so you have to think from their perspective That they think they have an obligation somehow to maintain a certain level of discourse on their platform This is how you get established initially But then when you get people in there that are very politically biased and you get people in there that are socially biased and you and they Only want one perspective being heard and then you get a lot of people self -sensoring Because they self -sensor because they're like hey, I don't know what I can say what I can't say Well now I'm now I'm like that right exactly Twitter does not do that X -trips.
36:54Right. I don't like calling it X. I can still call it Twitter. I know. I'm old school bro It's it's because it's not an X you can't make an X you make a tweet right? Yeah, I tweeted it you've asked it. No, I say X it I ride hard for you and I'm like I was on X and I was just drafting a bunch of X's No, I just I can't I asked it. What do you call it tweet? Oh that's that's that's that's jack Dorsey Yeah, the old days kids It just so it's nice to have my count back, but I love that it's wild. That's the Twitter things It's I mean some of it is disturbing when people get comfortable enough to just like really speak their mind about things Like oh my god.
37:33Well, that's the thing about social media too is Sometimes when you're a close knit circle your buddies kind of check you like hey, what are you doing? Put social media that some people have a lot of rope and you're like oh no Yeah, and especially like isolated people yes, I see my friends get nutty on the road Like I'll get nut you could tell your buddy has been on the road for too long Like they do a video in a hotel room or something. Oh, no, no, they're losing their mind. Yeah, I've been guilty of that too Just when you're not surrounded by Community and people and you're just a brain floating on the road the number one key that I found very early is going the road with your friends I'm lucky.
38:10Oh, I've entered a phase of my career where now I'm starting to be able to do that whereas before you're not making enough money So you're just beholden to whoever they book as a feature and you're just stuck in a hotel You're walking across a freeway to go to a cracker barrel and kill time. I decided a long time ago I'm like 98 to do that just bring just pay more money. Yeah, give them the money Just make less money, but have a good time. It's worth it dude. It's everything. It's everything. Yeah, make less money Have a good time make more money. Have a bad time not fun. You don't like that. That's not a good feeling Make less money have a good time and have everybody else have a good time too.
38:52Yeah So it's a bunch of guys who are really good friends who love each other have been on the road forever Going to dinners forever. I've had hundreds of dinners with Ari and Joey Diaz and Duncan and so we get together. It's just joy. It's the best It's just joy. It's just being with your favorite people Having a good time and doing a thing that you can't believe you get paid to do Yeah, I'm I'm able to do that now. I think you know, I mean, I have to say thank you for Know you're able to do it for me talent. I know, but I mean this is a platform Because like I wasn't a Netflix guy. I wasn't a comedy central guy and which doesn't make any sense to me Well, it just shows me comedy central Netflix Well, look at how much how many of my friends and peers are just skyrocketing and they weren't the guys they picked You know what I mean?
39:38So it's kind of validating and refreshing and it's cool to see comedy policing itself and just promoting Guys who are in the trenches and know what's up? Not some guy who's a communications degree I think there's a lot of comedy nerds now too That are really into comedy. They're really because they get to see how the sausage is made from all the podcasts Yeah, you know, it's still like really before that I always said this like there's so few conversations with great stand -ups That exist like from the George Carlin days or Richard prior days There's not hours and hours of prior just sitting around talking about things which would have been amazing Amazing can measure Richard prior or George Carlin had a podcast.
40:22It's pretty nuts. I know. Oh my god It'd be insane. It'd be insane and George has done some conversations where he talked about his writing process He talked about you know the art form itself, but he had a very specific way of doing it The most people don't do it that way. He would write a monologue Yeah, and then you would just sort of punch it up a little bit that monologue would be his monologue for these years amazing But it was rigid and he knew he knew his beads and stuff, but yeah, really Totally different process because in the end he became this guy who was A comic as much as he was a social critic It was like both things were this it was still a great comic clearly, but he was also a great social critic And he had because he didn't have a podcast His view of the world Came out in a standup when he had to figure out a way to make that funny and that was like his great challenge Well, it gets so distilled when that's here because like we can talk at length and approximate it and we have And you can go back on what you said and go you know actually now that I'm thinking about it right I could see how you would look at it the other way too, which is so goddamn important Comedy fans are getting very granular.
41:32It's kind of cool. I think Comedy's always been popular, but not like this and I I almost feel like it's People are discovering standup this day and age sort of like the way they used to discover music People are taking ownership of discovering comedians because Even me I'm kind of like under the radar. I'm pretty niche and when a comedy fan likes me. They're just like a level of fandom It's like they found a cool record at a record shop because of the advent of YouTube and Instagram People aren't just accepting whatever is being fed to them through corporate pipe right which used to be the case like if you weren't picked before you couldn't you couldn't do anything That was the only way to even get in front of people is like you had to be the corporate pick otherwise You were just toiling an obscurity.
42:20There's nobody to even be seen But now there's all these ways to circumvent the traditional like shouts was saying something is like Like younger generations and stuff. They don't know Where they saw it or like what the medium is of the branding They just know they saw it on a TV whether it's YouTube whether it's Netflix whether it's Amazon Like that type of branding is almost like legacy thinking from when I was coming up and you were coming up and there was a way To do it. Yeah, people just like good now Well, they like what they like too and there's plenty of variety There's all sorts of different comics out there now that are really popular.
42:56It's really interesting time I think like force stand up like for the art form. I don't think there's ever been a better time There's never been more of it. There's never been more good ones. There's never been more good ones coming up That's one of the more interesting things about watching the club as occasionally I get to see these people that audition to be door people those are all comics. Yeah, and I get to see them grow It's fun. It's fun to watch man. It's fun to watch people inspired and that energy is in the whole room You know because there's all these different levels This guy's like a song Derek.
43:29We're now going on the road. Yeah great guys on the road David Lucas is killing on the road William McCummery's killing it on the road And then there's like the headliners are coming there. They're all the time like Shane and Duncan and Thompson girl and all these people They come in to fuck around but There's this feeling that starts at the bottom. It starts with the base It starts with the people that are inspired about making it still And then there's the people that are just getting in and there's the people that are in and then there's the people that are on television And everybody knows that they are on the screen when they go on stage then there's Ron.
44:00Yeah, yeah, you know, there's those people So it's like you get to see how we're all just the same thing. We're all just artists For lack of a pretend to keep on just different evolution weird art form We're doing a weird art form that hasn't really until now Been documented as to how to go about doing the process and how each one of us went about doing the process And I think people are interested in that just like I'm interested in that motherfucker that makes wood Wood tools I love when people love things. Yeah, I do when even if it's something that I don't do. I love when people love things It's anything man anything.
44:37Well, it's so interesting how The blueprint is to make it whatever you want to call it in comedy has shifted so fast in the past couple years Because when I was coming up it was snl. It was doing like a late night set It was doing premium blend like these smaller showcase typesets And then you do a half hour like a half hour on comedy central was huge like dain had a monster half hour Just gaff again you would Louie, you know, these were like people's entry points to these people and then now there's really Those things don't exist. I was taking um, what's the viral clip down? Yes, so I you know, it's on the road And I took uh, I was doing cobs and I brought Matt Lockwood.
45:18He's a community from the store And we're just sitting eating ice cream on the bench and um, you know talking to the young comics and I'm like What what do you guys pine for now like what is the thing because when I was coming up I knew what the thing was like what we all wanted right it was like a JFL uh, yeah showcase it was a late night For the actual no, yeah, the biggest set of your life is in French canner It is and then you make an RV's joke and you're like, oh, you don't have Arbise? That would have been good that would have been good to know in front of all these suits Uh, what else is in the news?
45:49Um, so I go what's your thing? What are you and he's like there's really nothing That was weird to me that they had no touchdown. He goes Maybe like a clip goes viral or a podcast. It's just so nebulous now. Right There's no hard blueprint or well the blueprint before was kind of The problem is it involved other stuff the blueprint involved like getting a sitcom getting a talk show getting a something Yes, it always involved that a means to an end a springboard like you couldn't just be a comic You have to be a wacky neighbor. Well, that was the thing that always bum me out the most about Richard Jenny You know Richard Jenny when he died um was one of the best comics ever But was felt like a failure because he didn't become Jim Carrey Because he didn't become the guy who did the movies he had a TV show was called platypus man It was on like one of those burgeoning networks one of those new networks like what was it WB one of those is the 2b of it today It was one of those weird networks where like they started offering people deals to do shows That maybe wouldn't have got a show at NBC or ABC But he was a great comic man a great fucking comic and He never liked the fact that He was just a comic.
47:04It was crazy. Is if you plug him in today he'd be a guy. Yeah, it's a nut like you're enough as a comic Yeah, you're enough. Where is that used to never be the case? Who's like what else do you do? What's such a disrespected art form? It's such like it's something that everybody loves but nobody Nobody takes that seriously because because it seems like the person on stage is doing what you can do They're just talking. I know. I know, but they get up there and they learn very quickly Oh, if they get up there. Well, you ever have a drunk person who's like yeah, I'll do it sometimes I'm like all right.
47:33Let's try let's do you get and then everyone hates them You wanted this dude. Yeah, well, it's just people think and then there's people that want to do it And just don't know how to do it. Yeah, there's a lot of that. I'll get that after shows some like young comments What do I do? I've been writing stuff. I'm like you've got to get up. You've got to walk in the fire Yeah, you just got to do that first open mic night after the first one. It'll be a lot easier The first one's the hardest one for sure. I always tell her I was fucking terrified Yeah, but the fact if you even do it do three minutes and even if it's terrible that is 99 % further than most people ever do so many people talk But they never even like bomb for three minutes that is a win even for real Because you know what it feels like at least if you have gotten laughs and then you bomb.
48:20I think that's better Because at least you know you can get laughs, but if you start off bombing yeah the road to actually getting let like if you bomb out of the gate first time on stage Just death right not even a chuckle Well, if you come back if you come back after that happens Yeah, yeah, yeah, then crazy for sure you can be those are those are both great assets as it's they don't come here occasionally I guess crazy person isn't always You know the crazy person isn't always that's not really right you have to harness the crazy. Yeah, some people It's not harnessable. Mm -hmm. You know, it's a thousand horsepower engine on the fucking kids Like I do with this devil like a little kids bike with a fucking giant.
49:02What a ride that engine on it Oh, I also got a thank you because I mean it reminds me um I brought my parents a tonight. Joe and that's because of your podcast. I remember I was doing I forget which one I've been on a few times, but like You're like have your parents seen you before and I'm like No, I go they they saw me do the Apollo when I was 18 And then I got booted the Apollo and that was the first the I was like a few months in the Doing stand -up and they're from Afghanistan and this is not a thing you do and right they wanted me to Quit and it was just very disgraceful me doing this and they seem to get booed by four thousand people I'm telling the story on the I think The I'm one or two of us so I get boot off stage and all that and then you're like they got to come see you again, man You're great and I'll go I just have this mental block right because that was so bad right that um I just it's like an emotional thing you just put in a closet and you just ignore it Yeah, cuz I just wanted to keep on Uh doing comedy on my own and keeping my my parents and stuff like separate and then you like they got to come see you And then on the podcast I was like uh, I just always had this fantasy of like it When they see me it being so good To counteract how bad that experience was that it would be like a celebration that Everything's okay your son turned out okay right so the worries you had Uh, you don't have to worry anymore So I think after I spoke it into existence on your pod I actually went about doing it so I hit up the book or the tonight show and I'm like I mean, I guess I could have always done it.
50:45I just never I know the booker. I go Can I do the tonight show like I love to do it? I told him the whole story of like my parents have never seen me since that thing This is like an emotional thing I need to take care of like this isn't even about comedy anymore This is just like healing It's been this monkey on my back for 20 years 21 years, you know And then he's like send me a tape I sent him a tape So I actually did the work. I finally just went about doing the work. I went to the improv. I put a tape together I sent it to him. He's like this is great come and do it So then I flew my parents out to New York and It was just very therapeutic to be able to give this to my parents because they know what the tonight show is It was a celebration.
51:27It was like This is way bigger than I got to this night show. Thank you for letting me do it and all that stuff In the grand scheme of like entertainment and needle moving It's not what it used to be, you know, used a new tonight show when people like honking and shouting your name from cars and shit That's how I found out about Richard Jimmy. Oh, just a night show Yeah, it's almost a match. Oh But this was just to give my parents a night out and a memory and a story for the parents. So I wore a suit I brought them out. They got to meet Jimmy. They got to meet the roots the roots came in And the because I'm like friends with the roots somehow So like yeah, they're like all your your son is amazing with a blow you're you raised a good kid and all that So it was everything I would I could ever dream of it being and and I that's that stems from Your pod, you know, well stems from you, dude.
52:16I know But still it's just um When you talk about things and you speak something into existence. I think that's valuable, you know, just sure We also have to work at it think about it. You had to put that set together. You had to work at it Yeah, be real careful with that speak things into existence talk Because you're a very dedicated and disciplined writer right you write all the time you're always working on new material You're always working on your material you put a lot of time and effort to understand up comedy People say that that's nice. Thank you But I mean I just developed systems where it doesn't feel because when people are like oh you write a lot It doesn't feel like I write a lot because I just have systems and processes where Over time I look at my notes and I just have a bunch of stuff If it's not right I think people have such an aversion or writing they think that you have to go to a log cabin You know what I mean and there's a typewriter and then you like do a pipe and you're like yeah, what's funny Whereas I've gotten my process to a point where I just live life and if something happens I jotted it my phone and you jot enough things in your phone that list is pretty long Yeah, and then I developed that faheem works on stuff and his friends drop by show I developed in a in during COVID on accident like the jam in the van was the only venue doing shows And I had already headlined there they go you want to do another one I'm like uh how about this for an idea I go I just have all these bits that I never get around to trying I emcee the show.
53:41I have a piece of paper up there. I'm just kind of like a reading. I'm just Expigating against a wall. Mm -hmm. This goes back to people comedy fans being savvy now where they know the process And I have enough fans at this point now where like they want to see How the sausage gets made. Yeah, yes, yes, so I do like 10 minutes in between acts Just trying stuff out and then I bring up people doing great sets, you know what I mean? So the bulk of The integrity of the show isn't based on me trying new stuff because I have great comics interspersed So it's a very low stakes way for me to try much of new material So after the great act goes I do 10 more minutes of bullshit or whatever bring up the next comic So it's a safe space for me to be able to try new stuff and they know what you're doing too Yeah, the show is called He works on stuff his friends drop by so I think a damn show.
54:28Yeah, and it mitigates expectations I think a lot of times comics when they're like, oh man, I'm so afraid. I can't write stuff. It's like Make the show where you can Because I'm Bobby sometime first of all is very cool to see Bobby on the pod. I'm surprised it took I know it took forever It took forever. I told Bobby. I'm like I'm so glad that you finally did it like I want to do it forever forever Like that sometimes I don't even we talked about do to it like a hundred times Whenever I'd see him at the store. I know I just know Well, what made him want to do it this time what put him over the top.
55:04I don't know. I should ask him You know it's gonna be into times right We hooked it up. It was fun. It was fun hanging out with him Yeah, he's awesome. I love bought he was the first comic to take me on the road like a headliner to actually take me on the road with him He's a genuinely sweet guy Genuinely sweet guy always has been yeah, he's always good with other comics too hilarious So hilarious to hang out with too She's a fair all cat dude. She's I had him on my pod one time and like I had an idea of where I wanted the pod to go And I'm just kind of like mentally trying to corral Bobby and you know way you can't that silly you need a you need to like a red Red cape.
55:43Yeah, I need a possum guy just to grab Bobby off the wall. I You know spent this is how's to but I am I spent 20 minutes today watching dudes do flips over bowls. Yeah Because there's dudes this is a new sport where the bowls run at them and they flip over the bowls They do like front flips so they're acrobat this the red cloth isn't enough not enough. You're now Is the next evolution you're counting on your knees and your ankles These guys Oh, I gotta get hit. Well, look at this motherfucker the leaping of the bowls look at this shit Do they watch us for 20 minutes today? I can't do that without the bowl Bro, this is you have to be so good so athletic.
56:23You're avoiding horns That that goes up your asshole. You're a dead person. Yeah, and it happens all the time man Do you think one of these guys is undefeated? Nope I guarantee you father time catches them just like it catches great fighters I bet there's a few of those guys that hang in there a little too long The bullfighter. Yeah, front flip gets a little sloppy. Maybe you're you got that one bad ankle But y 'all compensate with my right ankle. Uh -uh not this time. It's not even a flip at the summer salt this time Just time you're going head button a fucking bowl It's just a I mean, but it's such a weird listen I prefer it to the other thing the other bullfighting thing they do What do they tell it?
57:04Yeah, yeah, and They compromise it flipping is just good fun Well, it's just the whole bullfighting thing. I get it back in the disay You ever try to flip? No, I've never tried to flip. I used to be able to flip really? Oh, yeah, I believe you Yeah, I learned for the high school musical That's like the least male story like you for flip. Yeah, I do learn Uh, you know during the summertime you just have so much free time that I had my best friend across the street I'm like, yeah, come over. I'm gonna try to do it back flip tell me what I'm doing wrong So he just had eyes on me And I would try to just do it on the side yard my parents house I would run grass is pretty soft, you know, I'm not doing on concrete.
57:47It's soft enough But you're 18 you have rubber bones, right? So I would just run do a roundoff To back flip and then but I was doing it sideways. I think when you first start you want to see the ground the whole time Right, because you're too afraid to Totally let go. Yeah, so he's like stop going diagonal go more and then finally I got So I was doing I wasn't doing a standing back flip. I was doing a roundoff to back flip And then I learned how to go off a wall Whoa, and then that's actually easier because you just like push off the wall It takes a lot of that rotation out and then I learned how to Have uh my buddy launch me actually posted on my Instagram because when I was shadow band.
58:28I was just posting dancing You know what I mean because I was in jail I was in jail So I just like how band were you did I still still see your stuff? I'm unsbanded. I'm but at the time when you're shadow band Would that mean I would have a hard time seeing yourself? Is it people that follow you? New people wouldn't be able to see me but some I would be able to reach some of Follows you could see. Yes, everybody maybe not the entire pie, but I If my ceiling was gonna be people who already follow me. I wasn't gonna reach any new people Um, that's weird, isn't it? Yeah So then I didn't want to because I had all these jokes and stuff and I go I don't want to burn these clips on a suppressed audience Right, you know, so I just went into my archives and just reposted dance shit But what's funny is like Sometimes when you post dance stuff it brings people who like dance that you wouldn't think like sometimes you'll like a dance thing and it throws me It throws me for a loop because I wouldn't think Joe Rogan likes a dancing video from me I like all kinds of things man Yeah, and then julia blue has started liking some of this that was like a crazy world And then she she asked a question and one of the iGs and I'm like she's like oh yeah, did you used to do this for talent shows and stuff?
59:40And I'm like, I did it for the high school musical So is there can you pull it up on? It's uh I mean there's two I have too many dance videos. Let me let's explore this. Yeah, why is musicals not manly? Probably the singing and dancing right why if I had to get dancing not manly particularly Evolutionarily speaking because women have always been impressed by singing and dancing Yeah, but you think about Saturday night fever Yes, right, but think about all the jealous guys and they just call travel to Gay or whatever what because the if the girls like if the girls like something that kind of blends feminine Haters is gonna say he's gay blends feminine.
1:00:27Yeah, why singing and dancing right but why again if if women like it and If it's difficult to do What makes those two things that are difficult to do that women like because it's not a masculine watching it too though If it was rock like if it's leather Guys can get behind that right, but if a guy can really dance That's shit's impressive. Yeah, but it has to be next level has to be like Michael Jackson or prince Interesting or like like like When's Lance coming back, you know when's Lance coming back land. Yeah, I don't know for him does a character on stage called Can stop a list and it was always a favorite of the comic stories you doing last tonight.
1:01:13Is he doing last night tonight? I think he irritated you well No, I mean it's fun Here for heaps right here like Lance is cannibal. Lance is cannibalizing for him. It's like that movie What was it the dark half was that book the Stephen King book with the writer like this? He's got like an evil writer in his brain that writes all the hits yeah, and he comes to life Well, there I mean Lance is a part of me the thing is I almost feel like Lance is who I would be if I didn't have parents I swear to God Because my parents raised me a certain way right and even when I have thoughts and stuff there are so many gates before I kind of say You know what I say right.
1:01:58I'm careful sometimes and then Lance is just pure id And it's dancing and it's it's it's it's candy right and it's so fun also as an artist too Stand up because when I when I write jokes and shit. I'm like there's it's intricate you know, okay What goes here? Well blah right it's mentally taxing right but Lance there's no jokes. It's just you show up They played dance music And I'm going out of the comedy store where they've seen so much high -level Yeah cerebral great jokes and stuff and then they're like way it's against the opal is Yeah, here Bert bringing Lance up like Like pure nonsense no amazing.
1:02:52I know I know amazing, but it really sets the wig with you. I I packed Lance is going on station Oh shit Lance is going on station. I just love the phrase I packed Lance Lance is going on station It's like I get mad if Duncan doesn't bring little hobo. Oh, yeah, it's a little hobo So one time when Adam was still at the store he was you know the the manager there I went up earlier in the night in the OR as me And then my set's done and Whitney's running late and then Adam tracks me in the hallway He like grabs me by the shoulders and he goes Whitney's running late get Lance So I'm like Superman so I go I go to the trunk of my car And then and then I you know I turn the lamp and so this is like three or four comics later and they they bring they go Who's next go Lance the comics like what the fuck they got all right Lance against Albus then I go I go back up for the same audience But I'm as Lance this time and I dance and shit and then I sit on the stool and I'm like You guys look strangely familiar So then I'm like I do it a 10 minute Lancet and then I see Whitney in the back and then I'm like listen to them and Whitney come in And so I so I got them out of a pinch That's amazing, but I've never done I guess one other time I did do Lance on the same show like as for him bro Lance will become dice Yeah, I can see that because it's so much fun to do do you know the die story?
1:04:22So no, what was that? Dice name is Andrew Silverstein right I know he was like a great impressionist and He's a lot of stage this do all these characters. He's do John Travolta. He does an amazing John Travolta Right and then he would do this character called the dice man And then the dice man became him. What's it Keep making fun of my car This car is automatic It's automatic It's time's romantic I do slide news Oh This is Elvis and for like Madison Square Garden. I mean how you not love him so good. It's amazing. He's amazing dice amazing, but anyway, um that became him. Oh He became that character.
1:05:17That's him This is it man your Lance. This is my evolution. I was a catapillian. You are Lance. I am this is this is my my suggestion for you next special After this one that you just did yeah Half hour of you Short break. Yeah half hour of Lance. So it's like speaker box and love below like they outcast album like half this half that That's pretty great you you leave the stage the stage goes black for like three minutes You fucking swap out clothes put the wig on Hit yourself a little deor. Oh, yeah What are they wear wait for the people that like to wear clothes? What is what is dude? A guy who goes to clubs guys like what's up girls like what's that guy wearing?
1:06:09Oh, yeah, what's gold chains? What's that guy wearing gene jacket? Obviously wife beater underneath right? What is the smell though probably drive type and cheesy guy clone in the this bottle? Some people really into Cologne man did you get no When I was a kid I had dracar noir. Oh, that was a big one car was the guy heard all the guys. Hey, you got to get dracar Girls love it. Do you know good. I have no idea some girls like No, no, what the fuck he's doing water was big in the night. Yeah Otami was big for me growing up and then a polo sport was was a hot fragrance. I used to do the old spice and After shave you fucking splash your hands you sting your face.
1:06:52Oh Functional though too because if I don't do that and I shave with a razor you'll get ingrown so you functional Yeah You know it burned by the seal good you fucking splashed it on your face. Yeah, it's what I'm saying you're like Kevin McAllister Dude, I think Lance it's fun like I'm bringing him back. I've been doing it more at the store Would you do that though that that my idea for first one I I would I'll produce it. Oh, yeah How about that also because this is my third traditional special like I've done it You know what I mean? So it's kind of you get bored and there's enough Digital IP out there of me doing straight stand -up Well, you can do both though.
1:07:32That's the beauty of what you've got going on So you could just do an entire Lance tour if you wanted to or an entire faheme. Yeah, you do whatever you want I also had this idea too because Like Lance just loves everything. He thinks he can do everything. He can be an actor He wants me in action movies. He wants to he wants to sing and do music So like I might want to do like where it's like a documentary of like Lance putting out an album and an EP and so So so he like tours America doing like shitty venues But he has like three songs on an album and then the in between of doing songs He's just like doing crowd work like thank you for supporting live music and everything and like how I came up with this song I was like taking a shit at your both And like just the chords came to me.
1:08:17Hit it. You know, so it's like half music half comedy right that could be a fun different type of special to do Yeah, I just love I love when some bus out of character, you know, yeah Because a few things you don't see that much in stand -up anymore. You don't see like a character because it's scary You'll get shit on a lot when you're a young comic if you do something kind of non -traditional You can get shit. Oh, so like luckily the Lance happened after I was really established the comedy store like already had Lance is good. It doesn't I know I know even if you weren't established if you came and just hit Sure, I'm gonna go to hilarious, but Lance was able to thrive because I already had the For real Lance is another person.
1:08:58He is he is that Stevie King book. He is Is it dark half? Well Lance was able to thrive because I was already beloved at the store like I had earned their Respect and stuff right and so because if you start killing with a character and no one knows who you are Right, you're gonna get shit on by the like elders and stuff like so it might take a whole not at this store Uh, it's it's a harder sell than if you have no history as a traditional comic Yeah, like it seems like hacky or a trick So the fact that I can do straight, but it's not if it's good the dark half. Yeah Bad Beaumont a parasitic twin removed from inside his skull when he was 12 what It's since then has become a critically acclaimed literary writer and a blockbuster crime writer under the pseudonym George Stark Who goes on a murderous rampage when Thad kills him off Yeah, that's yeah, that's the book It's crazy crazy book.
1:09:49I mean, it's fun doing different character music stuff I did a prom can you pull it up because I uploaded it to need to feed Lance. I will feed Lance. I'm sure this is this is gonna be sort of The way that tonight show thing was spoken in existence. This is the new and do the new thing. Can you pull up? I did a promo like a music video for my special This is just reminded me of the music I think comics are open to anybody trying anything as long as it's Really good, but the prop we don't put that same scrutiny on someone try and stand up for the first time You know like we see someone do it at open mic night.
1:10:26You expect him to suck. It's just so fucking hard Yeah, but if you see someone doing an open mic night and sucking as a character you like you ain't never gonna make a bitch Right, keep her up What is this? I have a special promo for you comedy special house money Instead of doing a trailer for my special. I'm like let me just do a music video So This kid macone you directed it. He does a lot of bad friends stuff too So we bang this out in a day You know what's disturbing that that That guy could be a very popular music artist that could be your third career Your third career is your British actor emo is so thick and satirical British emo Songs I'm not kidding.
1:11:16I was listening to tears for fears and I'm like this has to be my promo bro If you go like way over the top tears for fears like over to the next level of dismay so British yeah over the top So you could be that's your next career bro. This is my I'm a stacking careers today. Yeah, you're gonna stack careers You're gonna be a mock emo singer from the UK So somewhere where it never is sunny. So on a stoplanter some shit on a lineup who goes where obviously I can't follow land So Lance closes up so it'd be me This guy open oh he's guy open. He opens with his corny songs right right you have these songs Everybody goes nuts right short break you come back as fiam and then everyone's getting shot hard for short break You kind of hear like yeah Like on the bleachers And the first one's probably a bad idea the singing is probably right right but the other two are really good Those are real but the singing could make it if you really like I don't want it to make it It was just a fun promo to do wanted to prove a point if you had like this thing in the back your head and you're like you know what I don't I don't like get my Eddie Murphy on yeah, I party all the time that's a jam that is a fucking jam Let's put that on the green room playlist my girl What up my own time That was a produced by Rick James, right?
1:12:40Joey Diaz you're on the podcast. Yeah I love you brother way you think you don't call you don't write I called you yesterday. Hey, I'm here with fiam I love you Joey. How are you? You got to talk loud he can't hear you doesn't have you I love you man. How are you? I love you brother. I can hear you listen Oh, don't tell everybody they'll know now the whole world's gonna know yes. I love you. I'll talk to you soon Bye he's such a sweet guy man like I can get it. I can get it. I can get it. Oh muted I want people to know what it's coming. Okay. Alright muted One of the fun things about the club is no one knows who's gonna be on stage I see it because I follow the Instagram account obviously.
1:13:21It's fun So any pun who like who's in town and especially when we do protect our parks And it's re norm and it's fun seeing that pop because the audience is losing their fucking mind. Yeah, it's fun The crowd's like oh my god. It's just a it's a fun place man and You were a part of the beginning of this you really work Because you were like one of the first comics it took a chance to move down here Thanks man. I mean, it's very cool to see the scene grow and continue to grow And part of you thinks like how big can get and it can get pretty fun Pretty big man and get pretty big because there's a lot of new people that are doing it And they're really dedicated.
1:13:55Well, and if you're a young comic this this seems way more viable than Uh, a place like New York or LA that's super saturated and even if you're funny It's hard it's hard to get on stage whereas there's more stage time out here There's a ton of stage time and it's just like it's just different environment and I always say that this is my James remember give me some vauntlet. Yeah, come on. Oh, I love this shit. Oh, we get kicked off Really? Oh, yeah, well congrats on uh, you know being back and the deal. Yeah, so we can't play music anymore So do you think that we should Do It's the road mix day if I do it too good to pick up on the algorithm um Is there a way we can just say Put the full things on Spotify and just cut out the music chunks and tell people we're doing it Just trying to figure out on the fly we might have to tell people uh, I don't like being hindered by this nonsense We want to hear part of the time, but it's also it's like what is fair use?
1:15:00You know, how does that work? I don't know the rulings on stuff If you should be able to talk about one of the greatest fucking things of Talked by a community. How many entertainers have ever done as many things as any Murphy has that's nuts Well, that's what's crazy. He did wonder how many specials two two or three in his all -time great All -time great Beverly Hills cop comes out. I think oh That's so cool dude if you want to do stand up right now If he just wanted to jump back on stage right now, he was start murdering of course right away murdering Even watching his comedians and cars just being Yeah, it's talking to Jerry.
1:15:34There's so many great bits and in conversation with him great tragedy that guy doesn't do stand up But he doesn't want to so whatever Did you uh watch snl? I watched Shane's monologue. Yeah, and I watched the Trump sneakers bit. That's great man. He's such a good sketch performer Like yeah, it's rare that someone is really good at stand up and his great at sketch like that too He said he had a good time. He said they were for the most part. They were cool to him. Yeah Yeah, he said it was a it was a good experience. He's glad he did it. I'm glad he did too It's one of the few times that it's been appointment viewing for snl, you know For especially for comics and stuff every everyone I'll probably through the roof bananas.
1:16:15Yeah, I bet the ratings from bananas my favorite from there When he was on is that limo eemoo sketch, but it got cut for time and I'm watching on the internet I go they didn't air this. This is the best sketch uh Well Yeah, they have you know they run their show. There's a certain Order and maybe they got cut for time or something, but when I'm watching like this is the best imagine putting together a new show every week and it not sucking right what are the odds? The odds it's so hard to do I know put together a new show every week. That's so hard to do. Did that show mean anything to you growing up?
1:16:50Yes, yeah, definitely um The John Balushi days man. I used to watch that If you watch some of those episodes now you could never do any of what they were doing they had some of the wildest shows Those shows were great the old -town art lives were fucking great They were really fun. Well, that was the only place to see something like that too. Only place. It was nuts You know and then in living color came around man. I loved in living color. I love that's an L2 In living color was insane people forgot how good that was I remember I was at a pool hall the first time I saw it was like um I think it was one of those super bowl days where like they put had in living color on like during halftime I think it was that was the deal because everybody was watching in living color It was a good it was a we were what I was like I was watching Jim Carrey's far -em -alshable with his face all burned up I'm like this is insane.
1:17:43What is that? There was nothing like that that it had ever been on television before and it was on Fox, right? Fox took like more chances back then they had the simpsons they had like a little wilder stuff married with children Right? Oh, yeah, Racy Yeah, I saw that I was like are you out of your fucking mind? It's crazy. This is you're mocking a bird victim. I know on TV He that he auditioned for us in the show is not man. How about a handyman? Oh my god A handy cap super hero Damon Wayans as handyman was hilarious. He did a movie called handyman. I forgot they did a bro Are you saying they couldn't do handyman today?
1:18:21These guys are you saying they couldn't do men on film? Yeah, men on film was hilariously oh Oh, I got to work with David Allen Greer when I did like a small guest star on Jorod's show when it was on NBC that Carmichael show And I was just so star struck as like you're watching But he's this this lesbian guy man even before living color you just this tremendous actor But he has this crazy comedy gear as well, right, but that was so cool. Oh my god Oh my god, you could never out of fucking million years Did you see him come in the short story? I'll talk to about this, but it is a real thing what Why do they in so many scripts want masculine black men to dress like women How many times that happened?
1:19:13It's the thing you know, it's a trope right? That's a crazy trope Crazy trope when I think I don't remember who David's talking to I forget who he's talking to when he's explaining this Wasn't cat talking about that too or is like oh can't we just rewrite it to where that's not in there Well, it's a real thing. I mean how many examples are there And who's writing it you would think at this point it's such a cliche that you would censor yourself be like Okay, this is almost hack at this point like let me not put this in here It's it's a weird thing to ask someone to do It's a weird thing to say hey that guy with all the big muscles.
1:19:59Let's put him in a dress It'll be fun lip stick and give him a wig And give my heels and calm Wanda It's gotta be tough to where you go Because it's a big break for some people and you go I don't want to do this Right, well the Jamie Foxx one guaranteed was their idea because it's just a funny character It's just you couldn't do that today. Yeah, right you couldn't do that say that what would that be? I'm kind of like that when it comes to like terrorist shit, you know Like what cuz you know when you're a young Performer and actor sometimes the opportunities come through they go hey will you say a lock bar on CSI or some shit?
1:20:35Yeah, I go I don't know how much this helps my career, you know Like how am I gonna level up from saying a lot bar and just like disappearing right so It's really not net positive and I'm trying to be a stand -up comedian So if I was just trying to be an actor, right then sometimes you're stuck doing Like Samuel Jackson how to do some parts that maybe he didn't love doing early on the show? Yeah, for sure, but it's just that that particular one Getting black men to dress up like women. Yeah That's a fucking weird one man That's a real one and a weird one so weird like there's so many examples of it And if you think about white men like muscular white men how many times have muscular white men Been asked to dress up like women for funny Way less right fucking way less way more white men in movies Way less white men wearing dresses That's crazy you got Mrs.
1:21:28Doubtfire, but that's a character that he's doing right that's kind of different because he's not he's immersed He will like this is no fire. He's not a bad. Yeah, you don't even know that's Robin Williams under right, but what was the two -one food? Oh, yeah, yeah, that was like they were all John Leguizamo That's drag queens okay little different right because they're all drag queens right so Wesley Snipes gets a pass Because he's one of the drag queens. Yeah, I love this But it was just Wesley and address. He'd be like what the fuck is going on with this? Do you think it was initially? Do you think it was initially Wesley and I got the he needs let's let's surround himself.
1:22:02It's not so obvious Exactly. That's how you pull it off It's like when you get condoms at the store, but then you have a banana and then like some candy just throw you off the sand That's hilarious like was a homo man. I love him. He's so good. He's great in John Wick. Oh, he's in that. Is that the latest one? No, he's he was in the first one. He's the guy that tells John Wick who killed his dog I always think it's so funny man like that's how much Americans just for just people in general love dogs where This guy's dog gets killed and then he John Wick murders like People and then everyone the movie it is like yeah, that checks out.
1:22:41Yeah, that's what you get Uh -huh a thousand human lives for a puppy piece of shit It's a fucking puppy. I'm gonna show his car too. Don't forget that. I was trying to watch that movie with my girlfriend because I had heard it That's hilarious. Yeah, and then she's like no, I don't want to want to like a puppy gets hurt. I go They don't show it. It's like the whole like they don't show it like yet You know what I mean? There also it's just a jumping off point for the movie right? It's not like it's a puppy's getting worked over for two hours You know like where the diamonds puppy I'll tell you when the parts over right and she just didn't even like the thought that a puppy gets hurt right so she mentally couldn't ever get into John Wick Oh my god.
1:23:23Yeah, you gotta get fast forward To that part right. I'd be like no the puppy lives in this version Just pass the puppy part Yeah, even that wasn't enough. I couldn't trick her into watching it I had to do a solo but that's like the Barbie movie for dudes That's a good point. Yeah, it's basically the same thing Because girls you not want to sit there and watch this handsome man assassinated But every guy does you're like babe wake up come on You're missing dude. There's a scene where John Wick goes into the bathhouse and he's trying to kill Vigo's son and he Essentially assassinate all the assassins in the bath the bathhouse.
1:24:03It's like one of the most intense scenes in the history of fucking action movies It's so good that when I was doing the sober October challenge with Tom and Ari and Bert And we had a fitness challenge and I just stayed on the elliptical machine watching that scene like over and over and over again This fucking scene is intense man The first John Wick is absolutely my favorite John Wick. How many are there to know there's four they get a little cartoony They're still fun, but it's a different thing right. Well once you get deep on franchise. It's gets cartoony Yeah, the first John Wick was the shit It was the shit Such a good movie.
1:24:42It's just fun. Yeah, yeehaw Take me away brainless for two hours. Oh, there's a place for that. Yeah Oppenheimer I'm like learning all this stuff, you know right Like I feel like when if they wheel I mean they don't wheel TV's in anymore But when the teachers turn on Oppenheimer and you know the classes are fucking lit. Oh, yeah Because that's that's like educational and awesome. Educational awesome and today. Yeah I think a lot of kids are gonna get into science because of the fucking that's the crazy thing about Scientists man is that they were all like intellectual rock stars. They're like these wild renegade people Yeah, and a lot of them does some fucking and I think that was also part of the appeal of being a great scientist is that you had like groupies You know just like singers.
1:25:28Well, I've noticed that about any profession or art form form if you're a guy you just excel in whatever field it is you are There are gonna be women who are attracted to that field even if it's stamp collecting just women are attracted to excellence and and no matter how niche a thing might be Professional pool players would always bat way over the heads with girls who played pool Like guys who are really good pool players. They always did way better with girls than they should have Even stand up like if I didn't have stand up. I don't think I would bet if I was still an engineer bowing Here and some guy But comedy comedy family by now.
1:26:04I would you have a bunch of kids and I think about that How to get the dog train because it runs on this train pretty much Like entertainment is such a recent development because All that all the trappings of a traditional life are weight If you're trying to make it with a certain thing So I think we hit these benchmarks later in life and it's hard especially when you have like parents who There's a certain time to be doing certain things Yeah, right like I should have a house. I should have a wife. I should have kids. I should have a dog But to do what we do is so labor intensive and hard and yeah, so you it delays your life a few years Or at least for these traditional benchmarks Yeah, you can't if you're gonna go down this road.
1:26:49It's 10 years before you're any good Yeah, it's a long -ass road. I mean you can get pretty good before then But to really like get say like I think that's okay. I think other people can listen to this I think other people can watch this. It's like 10 years and also to get some footing career wise and financially Only in the last couple of years have I felt kind of comfortable in this as a profession because when I left Boeing It just felt like did I make a mistake because you can't see the other end of the shore. Yeah, so It's hard operating from that space of like is this a viable career um Am I have I do I have I plan enough roots in the comedy game and and like things are better now, so if you're good And you believe you're good you got to burn the boats.
1:27:34Yeah You got to burn the boat. I wouldn't have been doing it if I didn't believe That I had the aptitude if you have a boat To get back to your air conditioned house and eat mangoes. You're gonna get back on the fucking boat You got to burn the boat. Yeah, 100 % I like that boat in Gatica. You ever watch Gatica? It's a little bit of it. It's so good. Ethan hung up. That's yes. It's uma thermon. I think yes about genetics and stuff I was confusing it with a television show. Oh, but there's this poignancy I'll start to act. No, I watched all that. That's great to That's great to act as a fucking guy is both are is that that is one of the most underrated series the second I was watching it when it was on sci -fi and they're shooting the movie about Christopher Christopher existed Gatica that's so good, man.
1:28:20That's right. Um, so There's two brothers one of them's gennit genetically designed and everything He has all the gifts of technology and then Ethan hawk is like a natural baby Which is kind of a second class citizen So they're kind of shut they get they clean. They're like janitors and stuff and there's this point in the movie where They used to race or they used to swim and The genetically superior brother would always beat the The natural baby Ethan hawk and then when they kind of lose touch and at the end they do it one last time, you know And so Ethan hawk is winning and and this isn't supposed to be happening And it's like how are you doing this and he's like I never saved anything for the swim back and just that quote It just fucking hits me Because he's doing what's not supposed to be happening, you know, Jesus It's my favorite.
1:29:12I mean if there's one takeaway from me doing Joe Rogan pocket. It's watch Gatica One time I showed it to a girl. I don't think I've seen my soul movie I think this is one of those movies that I started and something happened. I got distracted and I stopped please watch it I will I saw many of them and I can't keep up. I can't keep up. I did watch Oppenheimer though Fucking fascinating. Yeah, I didn't know him in Einstein were boys. That was cool. I don't know they talked it upon that much Yeah, I wonder how much that's legit, you know, you can write a lot of it looks good You can write a lot of nonsense into a movie right someone's dead And then he said bitches ain't shit.
1:29:50I never said that. I never fucking I mean, you can really you can kind of like paint a person for sure, you know That was the thing that a big criticism that people had from the Bruce Lee scene in Once upon a time in Hollywood, but that was obviously comedy. That was interesting when that that really no I read it as comedy. Tantino kind of defended it And they said that Bruce Lee was like known for being very arrogant And he said something about he would he'd beat Muhammad Ali in a fight I'm like that's crazy if you really say that that's so insane Is it coffee? He was 135 pounds Muhammad Ali at the time was 220 to 25 the greatest boxer of all time.
1:30:33Yeah, if you wait Knock it out heavyweight. Yeah, that would have been a great USC match I'll leave it if you're talking about him in like 1967 before they made him retire For three years he was insanely good Like if you want to watch how good Muhammad Ali was watch Muhammad Ali in 1967 when he fights Cleveland big cat Williams I was telling watch that fight because Cleveland Williams is this murderous puncher and Muhammad Ali is putting on a show He's dancing and moving like you can't believe like no heavyweight before him Remotely moved like him. It's so hard to put it in perspective now Because we think about fighters now like we've seen so many great heavyweights We've seen so many great welter weights and light heavyweights in this the world of boxing We have so much footage, but back then in 1967 Thierryson nobody doing that.
1:31:24Where's your footage where you want you you're gonna get a projecting screen and sit down If it's not on TV you're not gonna see it So you watch whatever the fuck they show you on TV and knowing it ever seen a guy move like that Especially in the heavyweight division. He moved like sugar a Robinson who was 147 pounder. Is there anyone comparable? You would say no, it's like that. No, there's no one There's no one comparable in terms of like how different they were than everyone before them He was so different You can you show me some of the Cleveland big cat Williams Muhammad Ali highlights Bro, he was so different.
1:32:03He would not guys out moving backwards You know, he he decided when he would take it up a notch He'd he put put different paces on you pop the jab on you move Make you miss a bunch of times make you feel stupid drop his hands pop you again pop you again move around move around You can't catch him and when you're thinking about boxing in 1967 There's no heavyweights that move like this. They don't exist man This guy is a freak So everybody before him moves like Cleveland does you know moving forward looking to land the big power shots And look how big Cleveland was Jesus Christ as he jacked look at the fucking arms on that guy murderous puncher Very dangerous guy and Ali's just dancing in front of him just shuffling and dancing Just out of range and then eventually he starts catching up just starts tuning him up Scoot your head a little bit here So once he gets loose he starts opening up with combinations and he moves away And then Cleveland moves forward and he pops him with the jab pops him with the hook And now Cleveland's befuddled right because now you know I can't hit this fucking guy and he can hit me anytime he wants Which is just that's not how boxing is in the heavyweight division.
1:33:20Yeah You have big power punchers with big jabs and guys with great technique You got Joe Lewis and you know you got Floyd Patterson you got all these different great heavyweights But none of them fight like this fucking guy none of them fight like this guy Kind of was a style before Ali just sort of like slow and steady Well everybody was just power punchers in the heavyweight division They're just move forward they would throw good jabs They had good boxing fundamentals But they didn't move with the footwork like that that footwork was insane So if you're standing in front of them The realization after three or four rounds of this is like I can't take too many more of these He's not hitting me with one knockout punch But he's hitting me 150 times in the face And he's hitting me in a way that I can't hit him back Look at his pop in this jab just moving and effortlessly He would run miles backwards.
1:34:07Here's the one two. That's it. That's the beginning of it He would run miles backwards Backwards run backwards. So just insane cardio too Insane cardio insane dedication So this is the one of the most tragic From a boxer's a boxing fans perspective one of the most tragic things in boxing is that They took it away from him for three years and he was never really this guy again This guy that you see here in 60 -70 stop training When he came back and and fought after that he just didn't look like the same guy He wasn't the same guy physically He didn't you know maintain his training during those three years off look at that dude Look how good he was I mean you fucking kidding me Are you fucking kidding me?
1:34:53So that was like the most revolutionary thing in boxing like that guy in 1967 Like one of the most revolutionary things ever see a heavyweight move like that And then he got Tyson in the 80s. Yeah, and then he was out of his prime too for a bit right? Yep Yeah, but he had already No, it's not he gets up Bro, they just let people fucking they let people just be out cold There's like a famous photo of the right where you stand and over him or something No, no, that's a sunny listed photo That's when he knocked sunny listing out in loosed in Maine and they said it was a fixed fight And it looks a little suspicious.
1:35:31Yeah, we've ever seen that one Knowing that a lot of people suspect that this is a fake fight and that list and really wasn't hurt that bad That he took a dive watch this okay, because you watch like how he's trying to get up You're like as a person who's seen a lot of people getting knocked out I've seen probably more people get knocked out watch here's the right hand. It's a solid right hand Absolutely jit no doubt about it But watch how listing goes down. So a lot of people said that it was a phantom punch. It's not a phantom punch It's an absolute watch this over the top boom see the jaw shift.
1:36:01That's a real punch. That's a real knockdown That's not a dive, but what happens is when listing goes down See throws this jab. Olli comes over the top and bang That's a 100 % legit punch, but when listing goes down that's when it gets Shenanigans see if they scoot ahead to watch if they as this just Okay, should just show me the actual knockout There it is at it It's you got it. So you got to see when he gets up because when he gets up that's when it looks fake When he gets up When he's down No, this is like a bunch of different fights See if you can find it Did you box or you're always doing uh, I did some kickboxing.
1:36:51Here it is here it is right here So he not he hit some he knocks him down now watch watch he goes down now this is where it gets a little shenanigan Let's see if I'm watching a roll around he gets to his knees and he falls back down again It just looks a little like he's not trying to stop himself from going but to his back It looks a little funky. It looks a little funky So like he gets up and look he's looking away. He's not even looking at Ali So they're not deciding yet whether or not the fight is stopped and now Ali is fucking tee and off on him And then they stopped the fight It was very shenanigan, you know It look a little shenanigan.
1:37:38He made contact though. I don't know But it's also like the humiliation that Liston suffered from the first fight the first fight was 100 % legit The first fight when he fought sunny Liston sunny Liston was this murderous puncher man He was one of the most murderous punches ever He fucked up Floyd Patterson so bad. He was so dangerous. He was so scary And he was a thug like he was a crazy dude like during one of the press conferences. See if you can find this Ali was talking crazy shit. Liston pulled out a fucking gun He pulled out a gun shot through the fucking ceiling Are these people? Everybody scrambled are they legit nutty like that or is this partly PR for the fight like if I shoot a gun This will draw eyeballs.
1:38:17No, no, no, no, no, that was who sunny Liston was and what Muhammad Ali was doing was trying to get into his head She's blank Here it is The desert in Las Vegas where the champ was shooting crap and losing Liston was in no move. He ran by the mouth from the south. Oh Shit Yeah He just put it in his in his coat pocket. It's a blank. I'd be terrified by the way Those kids still kill you like people that put blanks up to their head the force of the gas coming out of the barrel the gun Can kill you and it has killed people a guy did it on a set once He you know, he's just fucking around with a blank.
1:39:16They have so much protocol whenever there's a gun. Oh, that's so scary Quick Yeah, look how fast his fucking reflexes were he dodged a bullet. Yeah, like legitimately I'm just saying it's not fast Bro, but he would constantly talk shit at every press conference It got so bad to the point where when they did his like the weigh -in thing like after the weigh -in his heart rate was so high His blood pressure was so high that they had a calm him down or they weren't gonna let him fight Because he'd just like worked himself up into a frenzy to fuck with Liston He would show up in front of Liston's house and yell on his front lawn like he Climbed into that dude's head.
1:39:57Oh, I'm sure how crazy to be through that gifted as a fighter and that gifted as a shit talker as well Unprecedented shit talker. No one before him did poetry No one did rhymes like you don't understand it is work to get inside that my parents were hippies and they had to watch When Muhammad Ali was rematching Leon Spinks because on television That's how much of like a cultural icon that guy was because he stood against the Vietnam war and that's why he lost three years of his career when he was in his prime In 1967 he's like I'm not going to Vietnam. He goes no Viet Cong ever did shit to me. Yeah, I'm not doing this and they took away his ability to box for three years and You know my parents are like very anti -war they were like This is our guy the whole country was like this made this is a person who represented sense He made sense when the world was going crazy and they were talking people into fighting this nonsense war in Vietnam and you could possibly lose your life or lose a leg or lose a friend or lose your father or lose your what And he was like fuck that and he was right Yeah, was it one of those things that it took years to get clarity on it as a collective whole society where it's at the time He's probably raked over the cold right 100 % there's a lot of people that didn't Look you you we had associated wars before Vietnam with these just wars like World War I and World War II We thought of those as just wars like you're trying to stop evil There's a guy who's hopped up on meth in Germany and he literally literally hopped up on meth Was a simple try to take over the world.
1:41:38That's a simple one. These are just wars right By the way, they're not simple. They're super complicated and there's a lot of In terms of cartoony bad guys bad guy good guy We're the good guys and and we'd like to think of ourselves like that So when we're at war if we're at war to stop communism in Vietnam We at the time I think collectively there was a lot of like hardcore fucking Blue collar Republican type people that were like yeah You got to do what the fuck you have to do to protect freedom right and you got but then they didn't know that the whole thing was staged They didn't know that that golfer Tonkin incident was a false flag Just to justify as getting into that crazy ass war for who knows what reason But there's a lot of them a lot of reasons so now people have a different sort of feeling when it comes to war So you think that was the first time I would like to play fuck a war by the ghetto boys But spotify will allow this And Do you know that song?
1:42:39And maybe if I heard it bro give me a little bit of will he wrote that in 45 minutes? That's crazy like how do you fucking great song man? It's a great song and it's so it's right. He's right Yeah, he's right and you know, it's interesting to see the evolution of rap, you know like when it started It was like very socially conscious and stuff. I know they're still They're still doing that but in terms of what becomes popular on a like pop scale for rap Do you know Russ at all? It's interesting here him talk about he's this hip -hop artist who's like independent He was on the flagrant talking about rap and like what happens is a certain type of rap gets popular and then it move it becomes uncool Or you move to the next thing like being socially conscious is cool And then just happened fun and while I'm out is cool and then what's the next phase, you know?
1:43:26Yeah, so it's not like it doesn't exist It just becomes smaller piece of the larger genre pie And now rap is so big. There's sub genres of it like rock, you know, there's indie rock there's and now there's Emorep there's well There always kind of was the different genres even back in the day like I was always a big day last soul fan Yes, I'm threes the magic number. That's a jam. So that's a jam and that was very different very different kind of hip -hop But now it's getting so granular like even more so mm -hmm. Yeah So that's just kind of interesting. I was like oh, yeah, it's not a third base Where they like I was the weasel goes the weasel goes pop Yeah, they're white guys you don't remember that did one of the flat top they had like a diss track against vanilla ice I like that bad.
1:44:14That's fun hop goes the weasel In vanilla is the weasel is people that go pop people you know they were hardcore Third base. Oh, Yannis is talking about this interesting is that dude eventually went on to hot host a daytime talk show What was it which is like the poppiest thing of all time like a Ricky Lake type thing. Yeah, like one of them things Did you have the flat top? I believe you kept the flat top. You've been your host in the show. That's impressive Though that's an impressive flat top is a serious flat top. I don't even know how you get that going on as a white guy There must be some products involved MC search MC search.
1:44:49They're good though, man third base was good. Oh, yeah They had some great jams and MC search had a great great album himself too. It was great They were good, but for whatever reason the white guy rapper there's only one Well, I mean the big one what Eminem. Yeah, there's other ones You know there's other great white rappers don't get me wrong, but uh he had to be so Technically proficient and it's amazing what he had to do to be able to be accepted He needed the voucher. He needed to have the skill set that he has right because before him I think young people don't realize that's what's kind of cool about the younger generation like Gen Z and stuff is yeah They just like art.
1:45:28They don't care what your vessel is right like there's a rapper Rich Brian He's he's Asian and like he's great at rapping, you know, but he's like an Asian kid whereas before you weren't able to receive Music from a vessel that looks different than what the line is Well, and then there was uh my man Everlast House of pain That was the best of like the white rap bands by far house of pain was awesome Do jump around oh jump around to this day when that song comes out for the UFC when someone comes out as that song for a walking song That is a great fucking walking song. That's a great. I'm in the gym song You know, that's a great driving song.
1:46:10Well, that's a let's fucking go song. That's a let's fucking go song Oh, just hearing you know, it is immediately And then that's it Oh, god damn it YouTube This is the beautiful freedom that we have on Spotify I think we're gonna start doing that Jamie. I'm not gonna just spotify exclusive. Yeah, just have little clips cut it out for YouTube People know yeah, we'll know we'll put the full one out on Spotify the vibe corner god damn these rules So what is fucking rules? How is the new deal different than like your boss talk? The new deal it's a big part of it That makes sense. Yeah after the election cycle then yeah, then I can discuss go back to it the bombings right Yeah It's just gonna be everywhere now.
1:46:59Well, it's gonna be on apple Amazon and YouTube as well as on Spotify. That's pretty great. That's awesome. It's cool So it's kind of like the way it was before the movie Spotify like you're getting pretty much Yeah, pretty much, but my deals with Spotify right so Spotify and our like it's instead of You know They have a vested interest in being it being successful everywhere. Uh -huh. So we're all in it together Oh, is that the thought like okay? We're drawing people in via Apple podcasts these different YouTube right just and they'll make money off of it being on the other shows too Okay, it's all good.
1:47:37It's good for everybody. Yeah, it's good And it's wider distribution is good and it's just like look people get attached to certain platforms Some people are super attached to Apple and I used to be as well I used to get all my podcasts on Apple. It was uh, it's super convenient. It uploads automatically You know you can set it like that so you know in the new episodes or it's perfect works great Um, so I get if they didn't want to switch over and listen to this Spotify I mean, I knew that when we first started doing I was like a lot of people are going to be like Sorry, yeah a lot of shit to listen to which is great, right?
1:48:10It's fucking great time if you're interested in Listening to stuff. I mean the amount of audiobooks available are fucking insane. It's insane There's you could never go board you will always get entertained or educated or something. There's so many of them But the amount of Podcasts now are it's bonkers. There's like five million podcasts. Yeah, I remember years ago talking to a are at the store This is maybe like when podcasting was two point or I'm like, oh everyone has a podcast And he's like everyone has a TV show. They don't stop making TV shows and that was really eye -opening to me too Like just because there's a lot of them Doesn't mean there's no place for new ones and so I used to tell so many people to do a podcast that it was a meme that was annoying Was telling everyone to do a podcast and I wasn't right You you I want to apologize to society I But I felt like and I do feel like I don't think it's I don't think it's the easiest road But I think if you're a person who's interesting to talk to you could find other people that are also interesting to talk to and sit down and people enjoy it It's like you can do it, right, but it's gonna take some work So if you dedicate yourself to it and try to figure out what you're doing wrong what you're doing right?
1:49:29What makes you annoying? What's what's more interesting? If you do it right like treat it like having any other thing You'll get better at it, but it's not gonna come easy. There's too many of them out there But it does it's free. It's free. You could just do it. You could just upload it to YouTube It doesn't cost that much right and it's not like you're filming a sitcom and it costs so much a soundstage the overhead is so low to do a podcast So it's it's worth the trial of doing it and also I think just in the stand -up space It's a great to -hander look cuz You don't always put a special out all the time and like being able to check in with your fans a week to week Yeah, they like that Just being a part of your life and stuff and then they kind of want to know what your baseline is offstage as well Because then they feel closer to use a performer, you know, yeah, like access is the new mystery I feel like an entertainment whereas before it was like oh Humphrey Bogart or these starlets You only got glimpses of what they were and but now that's almost like a kiss of death You have to be like hey guys here.
1:50:27I am um, you know, I'm at Whole Foods. I'm getting you like access They want to feel like oh, I know them, you know, that's valuable. Yeah, the only guy who's not who doesn't have to play that game anymore Is like Daniel DeLuas. He can make shoes like no one's telling Daniel DeLuas to live tweet Well, there's certain actors that are on the fringes right not on the fringes meaning the like everybody knows who they are But they might not be the first pick for a big project Right and the only way they think they can keep their name out there is to do stuff So they have to get photographed on red carpets and they have to sometimes the like tell the proper odds You're they're gonna be yeah, they like work think they have publicists that set things up So you can casually see them, you know doing something, you know, like you're looking into me like working out on the beach Yeah, yeah, you guys are here How crazy look great?
1:51:18I'm oiled up Just what are the odds? Yeah, there's some silliness to it, but I get it. It's a business Your your business is you and this is a business decision that you're making I get it But it's just like that's a different thing than comics You know with with us the best Like the best thing that we have going on is like this network of all of us That's the best thing we have going on because now instead of relying on like comedy central to tell you who's good or It's it's a total meritocracy and it's almost always entirely based on are you funny and are you fun? Are you fun to hang around one?
1:51:53Yeah, and if you're funny and fun to hang around with yay We're all gonna have fun and that's great for everybody. It's awesome. Yeah listening. It's great for us I'm so for you are for poppin that that it's shifted this way And now this is like a viable release route for me like I have the special coming out I get to do this I get to do bad friends. I get to be chosen You don't have to be chosen and also like who better than other comedians to know what's what in the field right It we don't have any agenda. We're in the streets. We see what's going on Whereas sometimes you get so high up at these corporations.
1:52:27They just they're like okay. We need this demo We need this person this guy's from this agency. That's a favor. There's all this fuckery a lot of fuckery So much they should not be in control of this art form well It's not their art form. It's our art form. You're the audience is art form. You're seeing the cracks now It's crumbling. I mean, I have no management now like I like it that way. I just have an agency and I'm getting approached sometimes, but like we're to point in entertainment and culture and stuff where like what value It does like a 90s type manager have anymore because like the blueprint is different now Like these Hollywood opportunities don't help me as a stand -up comedian anymore It depends on what kind of a manager you have Yeah, so if you have a really good manager a really good manager is very beneficial because they can strategize with you about what you do And what the pros and cons of what you do are and what's the best business decision and How do you feel artistically about your set now?
1:53:27Have we thought about holding off for six months? You have people that are confident. Yeah There's there's value in that if you find the right person and they're keyed into what you're doing But sometimes you go places you're just part of a roster. Yes, like they're just There's a problem in the same thing. It's like factory farming. They're factory farming comedy Yeah, try to get as many comics as they're collecting you they're collecting you and hoping you pop exactly and And then they just siphon off some 10 % But when you're a young comic and you're coming up the idea being in a management company is a fucking huge deal So yeah, and it is an opportunity too because they can get you some things that you're not gonna get without it For sure also you booked it improvs.
1:54:04They'll get you some good gigs So it like also where you are in your career like I've I'm deep. I'm like I have a lot of connections like deep I'm deep dude. I know you I'm you know, I'm texting you should you should write that that should be a new special I'm deep I'm deep bro. That's it. What are making this happen? I'm deep bro. I'm deep bro the the bro instantly negates the I'm deep Is what I love I mean Elon Musk and say it Yeah, people believe him though. Yeah, but you know, I'm saying like he can say I'm deep. I'm deep bro He can say but some people still mock him slur is to me. Yeah, they come to stupidest mark.
1:54:42I live like okay Are you gonna get a no link? Are you gonna be like a height these just no sitting in line? I will when I know that it's inevitable I will give up just like all of us will just like the people that wouldn't wear shoes forever And then why are I choose a pretty good? They're way better than yeah, fucking stepping on rocks and shit right I think it's just funny die from infection the guy who's waiting it out like I'll do shoes now Yeah, look I get to a certain point. He's like yeah, they were right. You can run away from cats I don't have talks though. I don't have talks I think at a certain point in time everyone's gonna get something There's gonna be some benefits to whatever it is that some interface whether you wear it or whether it's a part of your body There's gonna be benefits that you can't get without it Haven't had he done the apple vision pro yet.
1:55:28I have none. I am scared about that. I am scared of apple vision pro Oh, how so I don't want to be walking around my fucking house are you afraid you're gonna like it? 100 % I'm afraid I'm gonna be sitting in my office watching movies instead of doing shit that I should be doing They show images of people on a plane with an apple vision pro I would just be so mortified to have that Strap to my head on a plane. Oh, I would definitely strap it to my head on a plane really Yeah, man, you're on a fucking plane. Wouldn't you rather watch a giant 3d movie? It's just so it's just looking so Avatar in 3d on this fucking plane.
1:56:02Yeah, why are you smelling that guys next to use farts right? It's pretty cool You're in the fucking jungle and all of a sudden you like Jesus Christ Is this the thing about apple vision pro than really oh Bro smelling people's farts on planes One of the worst parts about flying well you ever get a seat. That's right. I mean not anymore for you But like your next little laboratory Right, you're right. I'm a poop party. It's the whole fucking time. Just breathing in poop steam Yeah, sometimes I don't I don't book a seat because it'll be extra if you do it ahead of time And then you just if you leave it to the machine sometimes you get fucked bro drop in a log on a public flight is a nightmare Yeah, that's a joker shit.
1:56:43It's a nightmare. You get in there and you gotta drop a log It's kind of a waiting to get in. It's kind of thrilling if you've ever shit on a plane It's the pinnacle of technology Kind of you like fuck the wheel being able to shit in the sky. Yeah, sometimes I think about like Man, what if the plane was see through or something? You know, it's wild is that sometimes When that shit, you know, it basically freezes until like a brick And sometimes like people have been hit by it. They just drop it I don't know how they dispose of it normally But I know that like people's houses have been hit by shit bricks, but they get a nice little payout, huh?
1:57:18I would hope you get a good payoff if frozen shit from 250 passengers falls from the sky and hits your fucking house Have a neck brace. Oh my god. Yeah, frozen pieces shit from a Delta flight Rocked me, but I got I got the money. I just normally get rid of that stuff. Chameen They probably imagine they pump it when they land. I would imagine that's what they do it now Yeah, but I do know that there's at least one store that I read about a house that got hit with a rock of shit Oh Look at my mouth. They're responsible fucking cargo plane. They like they they they've Matthews it You remember that story when they dropped a bunch of shit like from the tour bus and it landed on some people That Dave Matthews tour bus they got they got trouble for that.
1:58:02Yeah, they don't shit from their tour bus I don't think Dave Matthews green lit it, but whoever was writing over the Chicago River. I think Like they emptied the builds tube and it just like I might even gotten people that were one of those boats that went underneath it. I'll do what an honor though Dave Matthews Shit drenching you look if you're a huge fan. Bro, I hope that got fired. That's the crazy roadie that gets some pills I'd be like I'm going to fucking don't Yeah, she right here in the river bro. There's a plaque there. There you go The pro that's what happened it shows it the afternoon of August 8th 2004 at this very location the Dave Matthews band tour bus emptied the septic tank over the Chicago River Drenching passengers on a boat tour with 800 pounds of human poop No one died that day, but many wish they had Wow Oh, who phone from the sky thing here is interesting But hold on the but just that one that's real.
1:59:02I've been on that boat tour. Could you imagine you just open the pipe over the water On a bridge Well, just bad timing what if those people weren't there would they have gotten away with it? Even check That's a good point. How do you not know? How do you not know? There's not a boat filled with a tour of people Because it's an art it's an architectural tour you're you're taking in all these wonderful buildings You get drenched with shit From the sky Do you think you feel better when you find out at the Dave Matthews though because you just think it's a rando shit What do you think you get paid that's a good point how did that go down there how to be a loss it right?
1:59:42I thought I had something to go you can come to a concert you got 18 months of probation on 50 hours Me service Stefan wall bro $10 ,000 fine, which is paid to the friends that's not a river. That's it. I would do it again for that price The the bus which is reportedly being used by the band violinist boy Tinsley was not occupied at the time of the incident The Dave Matthews band eventually agreed to pay $200 ,000 to settle a lawsuit filed by state attorney general Lisa Madigan Will never drove a bus for the band again I would feel like we're watching a movie and it's like the end of the text is like will never drove a bus again Uh -huh, and then you see the credits after that So one please do a biopic on this bus driver bro imagine If they didn't fire them Imagine they're like hey people make mistakes.
2:00:32Yeah, you got good pills. Yeah You drive that bus bro. I vouch for him. He had one slip up. He it was a mistake He's great in every other regard. He pressed the wrong button. Don't judge this poop thing and dump poop 800 pounds of it. Oh bro. How about drain that thing for it gets to 800 pounds I mean people are shitting in there. He's got a reading the thing about the planes I've never even thought of this and this is disgusting cruise lines Oh That's so much emotion that there's apparently a law for example Sewage needs to be treated if it's going to be flushed within three miles of the coastline Oh my god wonder out in the middle of nowhere And ever thought about average cruise ship generates an average of 21 ,000 gallons of sewage in 170 ,000 gallons of what they call gray water Oh my god drains of sink showers laundry machines And has all sorts of stuff.
2:01:27It's a mini Fukushima All over the ocean. They just send in the Japanese people have to fix the septic league in there. That's a mini Fukushima everywhere in the ocean Oh, and on the spacious station since urine is 90 % water they kind of reuse some of it. It says oh good Recycle it they re recycle the water since to a process or that's less disgusting. I know it is but but the man Have you done cruise ship stand up on cruise ship? No No, yeah, you want to hear something crazy? They took cargo boats and for the UN climate change standards They changed the emission standards of these cargo boats and a very unexpected thing happened the water temperature got warmer Because there's less haze in the sky so the haze in the sky was actually cooling things off So they're fucking pollution from these cargo ships the The diminishing of the pollution from the cargo ships actually made the water warmer Hmm.
2:02:26They're the total opposite thing that they wanted to happen happen And then what do they do just like whoops? whoops whoops We had a theory which is what's a lot of this like climate change speculation is all about whoops There's a lot of oh well we didn't see that coming. Yeah, you know What scares the fuck out of me dude is a ice age and ice age Scared the fuck out of me because that's not a there's not god damn thing you could do about it I'm not happy if the world gets warmer and we lose California, but You know, mm -hmm move in move in fucking this is the reason why Atlantis is at the bottom of the ocean kids Okay, things change these change adjust and move I was here when there was that the Blizzard in Austin I was out there let's not bring in a god damn ice age When these crazy fuckers are talking about spraying things in the sky to cool the earth down like hey hey hey hey Let's talk this through first the whole fucking planet not you wacky dudes Talking to strange scientists in the middle of the Pentagon like let's all talk this through Before we do anything.
2:03:35Let's all talk this through before you spray the sky to cool the earth off And bring in hell bring in the white walkers What it's gonna turn into game of thrones the last thing you want is it to get colder that is the fucking last thing you want Take it from a guy's been camping in Montana. Yeah, you do not want to be in the cold You don't you don't want it you don't want fucking mile high caps of ice over most of North America like it was 10 ,000 years ago. Are you stupid? It gets to like 50 in LA, and I'm like this is cold. This is not bad Like what we got going on if this is like This is not bad if he gets a little warmer.
2:04:15It's not as good But we're gonna be okay We can sort out warming right and the fucking the ocean levels is kind of the same like what happened to all that Al Gore stuff remember from that movie I thought Miami's gonna be under one All right, I thought we were watching that dog what were the predictions because they were kind of crazy and none of them came true Like we'd be swimming in this podcast We'd be done. We'd be done Yeah, this is too low. We're only at like 1500 feet above sea level I can tell you I'm not wearing my car watch Have a watch they'll tell you where you're at really pretty dope.
2:04:52I just do the apple watch Doped and apple watch is kind of like the Prius of watches like people can't tell if you're rich or poor Well apple watch is a great watch in the ultra is the shit that apple watch ultra red Oh, yeah, that is the shit. How is it different than like what I got it's just bigger more battery More features a larger screen. It's a little bit more like I'm a robot This is so dumb, but like the biggest feature I use on this watch is like what I'm cooking and I'm like Set timer for two minutes like I'm Dictrazy right. I use it for laundry. I just use it as a timer That's like the big sell to me.
2:05:24Well, you know red band is like a giant I imagine he's on an apple vision right now. Most likely the most earliest adopter. He has an early link right now I'm sure he'll get that for sure Yeah He'll he'll be the first to take the try it out. He's like He's like it's got some king I'm gonna wait. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, push it away until they're gonna fix it I'm giving some notes to Elon. But it's good. I'm glad I did it. If you do get it You will have such an advantage. That's the problem if it does work The thing is like if it works and what are the side effects and how long is it last and what if it breaks and what if Russia hacks it You're speaking Russian What is the hack it would have like the moment it gets to a certain number of people that have it China flips a switch.
2:06:06I mean just something happening in your brain is such a big sell right Like it's not a hard sell. It's a hard sell That's a fucking hard sell But then there's toxoplasmosis which is in there for 40 % of us. What is plasmosis? It's tough. We talked about earlier the cat thing. Ah toxo Fuck you're just willing to get willing to get toxo. Yeah, maybe the the cell phone thing will be like a Neurological Toxo what what is the promise of neural link? Well, initially the first person that they did it on which is fairly recently is a person who's paralyzed and through neural link He can now move a cursor around and he can do things and and he's going to be able to like express himself The way Elon said at the speed of a carnival Barker.
2:06:53Wow. Yeah, he'll be able to those guys are fast Very fast. My fast. Yeah, so the idea is that he'll be able to communicate which is for a person who's been paralyzed and can't Operate a cursor or computer is huge, right? So that's one thing the they're eventually think they may be able to use it to Let people who have been paralyzed move like a walk again. Yeah What is the work that's been done on that specifically Jamie? We'll see. I don't want to talk about school The people being able to eventually they hope that it'd be able to restore movement to people with Nerve damage right now. I think there's still When I look to stop online, there's a little bit of a pushback from some people Because the only way that this has been announced that it works is just Elon's tweet.
2:07:40There hasn't been any other Proof I guess if you will I'm all in If Elon tweeted it's got to be legit. Yeah He's a wild boy. He's so wild. He just tweets. Does it come by the club a lot? He's been the club Has he been the club? I imagine he's so busy a lot of it's got he's like hanging there every day. No, I don't think he has been I might have what came down when Dave was here. Oh But uh, it's awesome having him around. He's a fascinating dude. I mean how exciting for the comics like Well, he came to a bunch of our shows when it stubs. Oh cool. Yeah Uh It's like that was when there was nothing to do.
2:08:18Well, I got to do one of those stubs shows So I was just so want had that writing job. It was like Willy Wonka. You're like, hey, I'm doing a show Me and shapel at stubs. Do you want to I'm literally like writing a sitcom? You know, I'm in a writers room And it's like kind of boring and to get this awesome like call call to the you know, Bolton like yo, do you want to come? Like yeah, let me ask them real quick. I go and I still have to add I'm like hey guy I might do a show Joe Rogan and Dave she pelled Can I leave like 30 minutes early and they're so cool. They're like yeah, yeah go it's like a rom comedy like What are you doing go after her Rom You know because like This is very cool for them.
2:08:57I'm like very fortunate. They're very supportive and stuff and stand -ups can like rock starry And they were very cool like yeah, please take the Leaf 30 minutes early do the show tell us how it is Yeah, so envious like have fun right and then you pick me up in your fucking muscle car like You get better and better and better You know it gets more absurd like I told you I was gonna pick you up in the coolest car. Yeah, yeah, you go You'll hear it coming and literally you show either Smells like a boat that thinks America. Yeah, and then should pal you showed him the car I remember after the show and he says he's just like floored If he's like what all let me check out let me check this thing out And he was loving the car and then we drove to the after pretty yeah This was just such a surreal night for me um Because we do the show.
2:09:45It's amazing. It's an alternate universe where comedy is happening and it's not happening in LA You know the show's amazing. It's fun and then and then we I'm just laying in the cut. I don't want to overextend. Yeah, I'm just so grateful to be doing to be asked to do the show and you already drove me So all the comics and Dave's friends stuff are piled in the car Dave is in the passenger seat and then you're like hey, he didn't get in like I wasn't even gonna ask I was gonna Uber I was just gonna be forgotten, you know, right? You're like, hey him get in So Dave Chappelle has to like do the human thing of of like Pushing his seat up.
2:10:21So I'm like excuse me mr. Chappelle. Can I? You know So I'm having a squish chappelle to get into the back of this car and then you just like you're ripping You're ripping in this thing and I just thought like man if I died in this car I would not make the article It would say Joe Rogan Dave Chappelle and like two other guys died, you know what I mean they probably mentioned your name I don't know I don't know but at that moment at that moment no, I would be a guy But that was such a fun experience. Just like what a wild night. Yeah, it was very fun those shows at stubs were like Medicine, you know, I didn't really realize how much we needed well have a good time and the crowds too They were so appreciative that's one of the things I noticed when I was doing stand -up out here Is the thirst and like it was human nature for as much as we needed it the audience needed it too Yeah, to have that kind of release.
2:11:18Yeah, and something to go to rather than just being in your house all day Yeah Yeah, people felt trapped and they didn't It didn't make sense when a bunch of them one of the things we did at the shows the Vulcan Like how many guys had COVID and like more than half the crowd would raise their hands You know, you go who wants to get it tonight? You get a long stage open your mouth. Oh Like you've been baptized. Yeah, it was weird the power of the compels you People started treating it like a regular cold You know, that's I feel like I sort of does now Okay, definitely is now unless you're insane You're one of those people that talks outside with a fucking mask on like there's still some people that are insane They're just insane, but it's also a leftist flag.
2:12:03I say it's like the Democrats mega hat Yeah, where that mask Unless you're an old person and you're really scared and you have a bad immune system When I see it the grocery store. It's like it's like seeing someone in a throwback jersey You know, you're like, okay, it's like a cool old mariners Jersey a lot of people that still believe in it They still believe that you could breathe or something and it protects you from a terrible disease Could you imagine like thinking that the plague is in this neighborhood like like some fucking 28 days later disease in this neighborhood You can just pull paper mask over your face.
2:12:35You're good. You feel comfortable. How about what's going in your eyes stupid Because that's one of the major ways that people get infected. It's through eye contact through hand to eye Like you your eyes like where people sneeze you get in your eyes you ever see You tell me you're breathing air. How's it getting into your face? You'll see um like rapid COVID testing places on corners And I almost look at those is like a psychic spot. You know what I mean? It kind of has the same feel like Who's going into these? Oh Yeah, I know a bunch of people who tested negative turned out to be positive It's uh, it's tricky man that fucking disease keeps mutating.
2:13:13It's a bunch of 100 different fucking strains now Who knows how many how many different variants are there now? Yeah, I'm an it's like look at six how many variants are there seven How many how many COVID variants have been identified? Let's find that out. Let's say yes. This is the COVID in my years I say there's 14 I say 14 15 I'm gonna price is right you 15 I hope it's 14 Come on. What's the low number you think it is? eight I think seven I'm gonna prices right you bitch fuck I got to walk behind the set of prices right while it was taping real it was kind of not yeah because like my girlfriend this time was you carry doing it?
2:13:58Yeah, oh that's true care. Well, he's a great dude like during during the strike He was paying every like there's that Diner Swingers he was paying everybody's bill so it you can get a free meal. Oh wow It's a nice guy just as part of the writer strike like if you were in the WGA or whatever All your meals were covered. That's amazing. Yeah, good for him. That's beautiful. He's everybody says that just a guy He came by the Hollywood improv one time. That was kind of cool because he's not a guy like pops in a ton Yeah, I met him at the improv one night and he was given really good advice to some young comic What was the advice who's saying just if you could write one minute joke every day just write one joke every day Over time.
2:14:39Yeah, like you'd be surprised and how much material you can write that's how I feel about writing totally You just kind of build it in pieces and then if you are regimented regimented about it When you look back at your notes. It's it's you've done all the work. I always feel like it's like mining You know that like sometimes I just hit rocks. I'm just hitting rocks But every now and then if I keep mining I find something cool Variance of concern Hmm, so that's there's classifications right I guess we could play this game. How many variants of concern? Yeah, let's be concerned Okay, let's okay.
2:15:13Let's let's start with that. How many variants of concern are there? There's Three three variants of concern your way off. There are Omicron variants. Okay. There's a Under monitoring which has got two so we're at five. So it's five under my and now de escalated over 50 of that Oh Over 50 holy shit, dude. I don't know how they classify them. I'm sure that's crazy. There's 50 variants no longer circulating like it's not hip anymore Yeah, it's just there's different spike mutations of interest. Oh god. Yeah, I don't know how scary is all that stuff How scary is it they keep doing this gain of function research?
2:15:56They're like let's just keep oh is that is that how come it started the gain of function? That's the primary theory. What is gain of function? Gain of function is when you take a virus and you engineer it to make it So that it works on humans So they'll take a virus that works on bats and they'll engineer it so that human beings can catch it like let us get it idea Yeah, and they make it look super contagious also a great idea hahaha For those familiar unfamiliar with gain of function research This essentially means juicing up naturally occurring animal viruses in a lab to make them more infectious amongst humans It's practice is nothing new scientists in the United States have long known how to mutate animal viruses to infect Humans sure Yeah, the practice is nothing new.
2:16:40It doesn't mean it's not a fucking terrible idea Like what good has come out of it? That's my question Do you guys know how to stop these things from happening because it seems like you didn't stop that last one So what benefit are we getting from the potential of you unleashing deadly super viruses to the world? And is this a thing where because you can do it you do it because you can get funding because that's where you studied in school They just got bored. I think it's like what is that thing? What's with your businesses? Right? What's your business? My business is studying viruses. Can I get research to study virus?
2:17:15Can I get funds? Well if you agree with what we say and publicly will give you funds and you can do research and oh, it's not legal for us to fund that research Why don't we fund this company and then can we fund the research? We could say I don't know what you're talking about And then you know you could change what you describe as gain of function and you could say I am the expert I am science and that's what we went through we went through that for three fucking years It's all about funding man. And at the end of the day, it's Pretty clear that shit came from a lab. It's pretty clear to all the people that are making any fucking sense that aren't Gaslighting the fuck out of you I always thought about like what if you're the guy who loved bat wing soup and and it was getting a bad rap unnecessarily Like guys, it's not the bat wing soup and now he's vindicated like yes, it's the lab.
2:18:03I can continue eating this soup. I can keep eating pangolin stew Ha Yeah, you gave me stew a bad name. Yeah, remember they were trying to pin it on the pangolin. That was a lot of that self -park episode is amazing Oh freakiest freakiest little animal Like a little dinosaur kind of a cute guy though Again, just like that fucking turtle if that thing was gigantic storming through a village Imagine I mean imagine a monster like it's eating ants here, but imagine just eating humans Imagine just plowing through some fucking fat chuts that tongue just slicing you and just ripping people's legs apart in front of their families Just chewing them choking them down.
2:18:44You have eaten bugs giant pangolin. Yeah, I've eaten a bunch of bugs. I hosted fear factors Oh, so is that part of it you had to eat it as big host? I did it because like I did it to get people to do it Like they were like I can't do it and like you can look I'll do it. I'll do it easy Like grab a roach and I just chocked on me. I did it to a couple different things. I ate a few different things Any what's your take on the bugs and we're some of them pretty good or they're grosses are surprisingly tasteless Yeah, yeah, when it was a big one a Madagascar hissing cockroach alive or dead alive. I just grabbed the baby Um, they're surprisingly tasteless you get over the fact that you're eating a bug and the squish in your mouth But it doesn't taste like much and the thing about bugs is people have been eating bugs forever animals have been eating bugs forever I mean bugs.
2:19:29This is me looking. Oh So cutie back then Watch my choked this thing down. Oh bro The crunching yeah, it was very crunchy.
2:19:43Oh Jesus let's laugh at this same time too. We're the crew people like you don't have to do this No, I do it try to get this girl to do it. Did you do it? She want to be eating worms instead, which I thought was worse We made a deal with her two worms two worms are a roach What was the thought when you did fear factor? I heard it was uh you like you didn't love acting as much Is that what it was? Well The process of sitcoms is great when it's up and running But it's brutal to begin like the the early days of news radio. I love that show by the way Like I love the watching good. That was like 16 hour days Like you work crazy long days and the writers are busing their ass and the actors or everyone's tired the crews tired It's hard to put together those fucking shows.
2:20:27I thought sitcom was a better schedule like I heard these 16 hour days or with single cams and stuff once they get going The thing is you have to figure out a way to make it a well -oiled machine and that takes a long time It take the actors have to be in line they have to figure out who whose strengths are the writers have to be in line The they have to get support from the network. It's a grind man. Did you guys eventually get to a strange line to the point where we didn't even have to work five days a week we only work four days a week and one of the days was just a table read So we'd come in there would be a table read then there'd be some revisions the writers would get together and they'd come up with new scripts And the writers are crazy they would they would write like really late at night like that was their thing to get silly to like be exhausted Yeah, yeah, just the lyrics.
2:21:10Yeah, they just get completely delirious and write the most ridiculous shit was really fun They would come stumbling in like barely awake at like nine in the morning and we're all there They had just finished you know and some of them sometimes they didn't finish sometimes they had like one half of the script And they were still tightening up to second half so they'd give you the first half of the script you'd work on it until lunch Everybody lunch and then they would come back with the second half of the script and you'd work the rest of it out And in the beginning it was exciting and it was fun and everything but I was like I this is not my jam You know, this is really fun to do you're great fun to do.
2:21:44Thanks. Yeah, it's fun acting's fun with fun people but Eventually, I was like I just like doing stand -up and I like doing other things and then this show If your factor was like I was like this is gonna get canceled immediately Like you're sick and dogs on people on television and making them eat animal dicks like I'm in let's go You're gonna make them ride bowls. Okay. I'm like, okay So they came to you first you were first option they go do you want to host this show? Well, they didn't know who's gonna host it. They they met with a bunch of people in his NBC, right? It was NBC so I had just been on NBC for news radio and so I had a relationship with them And so then when this came up it was just like They they said you know, there was two thoughts one have someone hosted that was like Like a sports guy, you know like fear is not a factor for them yeah Like down the middle or someone who was like laughing while this crazy shit was going on so they chose me So that's I think it worked better.
2:22:39It worked out. Yeah Well, you had to make fun of some of it because it was so crazy that you were doing this and some of the things I was like don't do it. I would tell people don't do it like the bull riding like don't do it. They're not paying you enough for this No one's paying you enough to ride a fucking bowl you kicked in the head by a bowl your life has changed forever I'm like I'm not gonna do whatever you want but you don't have often sure I wouldn't do it I told them all my I wouldn't do it They were trying to tell me that was stunt bowls like that bowl does not know it's a stunt bowl That bowl thinks it's a fucking bowl doesn't even know what a stunt bowl is that's a giant fucking angry animal That doesn't want you on its back and you're getting like untrained people and you're putting a helmet on them Yeah, and a chest place and a whole entry guy hopping on a bowl Hoping their arm doesn't get shattered into a fucking million pieces if they're lucky.
2:23:21That's a good TV joke kicked in the face Yeah, terrifying Someone that shows like white belt even I'm like I Why would I risk this? Yeah, you think it was a giant race Really yeah, they just love people get him fucked up. Yeah Well, it's like hey, this is the game we play I guess and then also you we saw that guy jumping over the bowls guys have a But he's he's willingly doing that and he's in he's in control He's not being thrust into it. Yeah, this is his life But in their defense there are people that go on fear factor or they're one of fear factor Well like serious fucking athletes And and they excelled at a lot of these things and you look oh well if you're like a real athlete You could do some of this shit and you could do it better than everybody else just like you could play football better than everybody else or Wrestle better than everybody else.
2:24:09So it wasn't all eating shit No, there's a lot of physical stunts like we had a celebrity one one and the Miz WWE the Miz he was on it. He won. Oh that fucking dudes an athlete like a real athlete like he held his breath under water Why are you swimming for like two fucking minutes or three minutes it was something crazy He was doing some stunt they had to dive into water and do a bunch of shit and come out Forget what it was, but I was like that guy's a stud because like that is hard like me as a person who's like I've tried to hold my breath for long periods of time under water. I've swam I'm like that's fucking hard to do that water's cold as shit Which really freaks you out when you get in there everything like tightens up if you're not accustomed to jumping into cold Water's very difficult to stay relaxed and it's dude swimming around in there for like three minutes.
2:24:54I'm like that's an animal so there's like Yeah, you shouldn't ride a ball But some of those fucking things that people do It's like if you're a real athlete you can excel at a lot of these things Well, it's a grand prize for these things depends on the show. I mean some shows we gave away a million dollars But that was only a couple of them. Most of the time they got like I think it was 50 grand But then after taxes it's only like 34 the government's like I eat those dicks. We eat those dicks Yeah, the government's like where's my mom? Where's my mom? Where's my cut? The government did need any dicks and they get 16 grand Yeah, Uncle Sam didn't eat dicks.
2:25:29Yeah, they zero dick and they get 16. I gotta give my dick my biggest guy all the dick you get 34 Yeah, fortunately, you know praise the baby Jesus nobody got hurt. Oh, that's good. Nobody got really hurt I mean people get like spring dangles. I'm sure it was an iron clad contract with these people sign I'm sure it was nuts. I'm sure it was nuts But I legitimately thought it was gonna be canceled immediately and it lasted how long six fucking years 148 episodes and then we came back and did it six more and then it got canceled the second time because people had a drink jizz Because you can't release You got released on TMZ they They got a whole of the video and the photo somebody re leaked it.
2:26:09What kind of jizz donkey jizz Which is just useless jizz How so? Was it mule jizz or donkey jizz I think it was they had a choice donkey jizz. I think it's what you like the mule jizz? It's sterile jizz It's the you can't like mules you can't they can um impregnate anyone. Yeah, I don't think they call it donkey jizz though Well, I think it might have been actually mule jizz Because that was the cheapest stuff. That's the budget. You know, there's a budget when you're working on a show Yeah, we can't get the thoroughbred jizz yeah thoroughbred jizz is super expensive. It's a gold. What is that?
2:26:41It's like a dollar? Yeah, right under that guy that yoga guy like Oh, you ever see that That donkey on him when he's like people will pay one million dollars for one drop of my sperm It sounds like a lance bit It does so this is donkey juice. So They called it donkey juice, but I think that's because donkey's a funnier name than mule juice That's a good point And so yeah, so they had to do it and there was twins So one had a drink urine and one had a drink Jizz and depending upon your score depending on how many ounces you had a drink ruff stuff ladies and gentlemen and I that's another show where I said don't do it and they're like NBC signed off on it I don't give a fuck.
2:27:26I'm like this is first of all this is outrageous and I've seen a lot of stuff high as a kite Okay, I'd never did that show sober from episode like four on I would take pot edibles before every show I was like let's go. I made it fun. I'm sure it enhanced the oh my experience got it made it so much more fun But that was one day where I was like you guys are freaking me out like don't do this. This is a terrible idea Did you know that this could be the end like doing this stunt 100 % You're making people drink jizz. Yeah, I couldn't believe that I was the one the voice of reason Yeah, I was the one.
2:28:00It was stepping in and go hey guys the guy on the edible. You can't make people drink jizz on Television while people are eating dinner And the writers are like we think it's good We workshop you imagine trying to explain that to little kids all over the world. What's jizz? I think in other countries they did play it. That's why it's still available on YouTube I could still find that that banned episode. I think in some countries. I think they played it in Holland They played in some European countries. Well, they're way more chill with eulges out there. They're like hey Yeah, it's like nudity in France.
2:28:29Like they're very cool with mule jizz. Well, if your factor actually started out in Holland What was it called? I think it was called now or neverland Prisha was Holland and then they bought it and they changed it to fear factor I brought it to America I guess every every game show is just a remix of something overseas. You know, we do that a lot But what it was for me dude was like my escape package your parachute. Yeah, like the my fuck you package Did you know? Did you do whatever I wanted and that's when the podcast came after I was done with that Yeah, you have a great sixth sense for just like Not even stumbling, but just like knowing what the next thing is, you know like fear factor Give you a nice parachute away from sitcom and all that stuff you didn't like and then podcasting was a nice run way to get into that And then you were so early to UFC too, you know You but the UFC thing was that that was the craziest because I was into the UFC when it was in 1997 I remember when you had to go through a beaded curtain to watch you see Yeah, you have to I had a video I had to go through a beaded curtain.
2:29:34Yeah, you have to go to the dirty side. Yeah, I remember it was Yeah, you had to like walk by porno and shit to get to UFC tapes. I was at my my friend Leo Mariana I believe this is last night this Japanese kid He had a UFC tape for his birthday party and he popped that in and this was like wild This is really yeah, you couldn't believe it was real. Yeah, these guys are beating the shit out of each other This is crazy. So you couldn't just get it. It was hard to get yeah I started working so I started working for them in 97 you have see 12 And dothin alabama and it was just crazy It was like a half -filled like high school auditorium looking place.
2:30:11What do you think the biggest jump was TV? Getting on spike TV. It's one of those things where people just needed to see it They needed to see it to know how exciting it is You know, there's certain things that people just don't know yet And then they got it on spike TV. It was all day in a white and the fritita brothers If they didn't they were like 40 million dollars in debt before it it really hit what was their venture? Do they have a venture before UFC like what they don't just he knows So they were wealthy, but they were fucking hemorrhaging money. I mean hemorrhaging money doing that that program and I but I You know, I was like god damn just the world the world needs to see if the world could see it's so entertaining It it transcends all cultural boundaries what fighting is is something that's in human beings DNA and when you see a really great fight between two highly skilled At the peak of condition just warriors the best in the world and we see them going a war inside of a cage with these little gloves on And shorts no shoes on just fucking tee and off on each other.
2:31:21It is wild to see There's nothing like it in all sports Nothing like it man a real high -level championship fight. There's nothing like it man And I knew people just had to see it and if they could see it they could see what I see Because this is universal. It's not like a game like cricket. You could be awesome at cricket I don't know what the fuck's going on. I know you're trying to hit that thing with the paddle. It doesn't make any sense to me I don't know the rules. I'm not interested They're fighting any fighting anyone knows what's going on You know everyone goes knows what's going on you wheel kick somebody in the head everybody saw that That's crazy.
2:31:56What the fuck just happened you get that guy an arm -bar and break his arm like what he just broke his arm This is crazy. This is nuts. What is this? It's just universal. I knew it'd be universal. Yeah fighting is pretty universal like I'll watch these Wrestling documentaries. They're so good like every wrestling documentary is amazing And I think that's part of the appeal of wrestling they talk about because it's such a it's a play It's so simple fighting you know everyone knows this yeah, and there's so many elements you can have on top of like going heel and It's it's dramatic. It's inherently dramatic.
2:32:28Yeah, it's almost the simplest form of entertainment fighting right Well in a lot of ways. Yeah, it's also such a dangerous game man such a dangerous game You know, and it's hard for guys to know when to stop playing it You know it's hard for guys to know when to get out And you see all the great ones man all the great ones fall And it's just part of the game. Has anyone got out at the right time or a year? Yeah He did it the most intelligently Better than anybody he went out as a champion He retired after defending his belt and then he came back and he fought Michael Bissping for the middleweight title and beat him And then retired again.
2:33:07So that's it And he's got all his faculties. He talked to him. He's great. He's super happy Still very healthy and fit still constantly trains martial arts comes to Austin all the time to train with Gordon Ryan and John Donahair So he's here all the time And he's just a martial artist. I mean in a great spokesperson He had a great example of what is possible like that you can Be one of the greatest of all time without a doubt George St. Pierre will go down in history is one of the greatest Makes martial artists of all time for sure. He's definitely in the conversation of the goat You know there's a few people that are in that conversation, but he's definitely in there But that guy's totally fine today He figured it out.
2:33:50He's very smart one of the rare people. He's one of the rarest of rare checked out Yeah, he's he's smart He got out at the right time and he's got all his faculties and he's doing great And that's a beautiful example But for every one of George St. Pierre this guy's That leave and you can tell they're slow you tell their compromise you can tell they've been they've been in some wars And that sucks too. That sucks to say yeah It sucks. It sucks to see old guys that are just like we're just broken down man and a lot of them physically broken down Like they can't move well. I mean I can't imagine The bags are all fucked up Punch -a -back surgeries knee surgeries, you know, it's just such a brutal brutal way to make a living But yeah, when I started getting into that man It was like doing porn Like people like what are you doing the fuck are you doing?
2:34:37Why are you getting involved? You have a sitcom career. Yeah, I was on news right you're like you'll see in a few years you'll see I don't think anybody believed it Nobody believed it But I was like look I can't help you Well, it's a great lesson. It's a great lesson is just following what your passion is and then the rest can like falls into place If you're lucky Just wind up a car thief Things can go bad. You really love it. You really love stealing cars though. Yeah, some people do remember that movie with Charlie Sheen and Some other dude I forgot the other dude. They were just steel porches That dude DB Sweeney's how do it is?
2:35:13Who's the other dude was in it the fun movie? What was it around the era of gone in 60 seconds or oh for that man? It's an old -ass movie It was this dude would just steal porches. It was like 1980s porches, which were really cool little cars man It's such a different thing than a Porsche of today those little like minimized little sporty cars and he would steal these sporty cars And the whole movie it's just like a love affair. I love this poster. Yeah, it's great. Who's the other dude? Is that ice man? Is it DB Sweeney? Yeah, it is no man's land It's just a it's just a Porsche Infomercial the whole movies about you if you get this movie and watch it you don't want to buy old Porsche Just something wrong.
2:35:58Yeah, go to a doctor Remember Italian Italian job where it was just like a mini commercial see look at this got a little what what Look at that is that cranking They got the The toothpick come on Bro those cars are the shit. I want a portion of toothpick right now Those cars are very difficult to handle. They'll see if they saw a car like let's get it and they hop out and Charlie Sheen was a cop who's undercover Right isn't that the plot pretty sure This guy's got a cabrio leg Oh, I think that's an alarm. Oh, I think it's one of them alarm jobs. Yeah see because it's flashing It's like oh, there's an alarm on this car.
2:36:43It's gonna be harder Yeah, so you had a look around Do you know what you're doing man? Yeah, bro. I'm a steal his Porsche. Oh shit. Is he gonna use? Okay? By the way if you have a convertible can you just cut the top? Oh Here comes the knife. So this is how you do it Is he gonna cut the top? He is gonna cut the top this slide bastard look how slick he is Oh nice one looking for the spot This is very sensual. Yeah, it's very This is why you shouldn't have a convertible. Yeah, I try to steal it. Get a cloth house So Charlie Sheen's gonna cut that right. What's he gonna do pop it? Okay, that's simple.
2:37:25Yeah, he's gonna pop the convertible. Oh, what do you do? That's my Porsche. Oh Shit, oh god, just shoots at him All right now we're oh now we're getting into yeah Yeah, so here we go. They're just shooting at him Jesus Really failed on that red one. Yeah, and I can't chase him. I'm gonna trans am a lot of great cars in this movie spoilers Tata town. It's a dumbass movie, but every guy loved it. I'm sure. Oh, yeah the porches are awesome Awesome to watch some speed away. It's a little porches Carly Charlie Sheen car movie How many's got another one came up. I've never heard of sci -fi movie called the race Well, what is that it's like night rider?
2:38:141986 Man, I love old trailers Give him another chance Yeah Oh, he's mad. Oh, look at that sweet. What is that cyber truck? Yeah Oh, what is this? Oh my god Yeah, they're using this car to kill people He's in it He's kind of going off the rails right is is he yeah, he went a little off the rails. Yeah boy. This movie looks dumb as shit He know he was in a one good movie that people Sleep on it was a science fiction movie No, no Charlie Sheen the arrival no I love that movie well is that it was called Isn't the arrival the one there's two of them I just the arrival. I love there's the Dennis There's a new one that were the space you'll see a coffee bean the oh cuz they're both the same name.
2:39:25I love this So this is the this is the Charlie Sheen one. This is really good This one is like underrated I agree very underrated sci -fi movie the aliens are weird like the leg thing. Yeah, such a great reveal It's cool. It's a cool movie. It's like it doesn't get the credit it deserves. It's actually a cool movie But then there's the other arrival which is really I like that one too That one's amazing. Yeah, cuz that one to me feels more like what it probably like how do we communicate with these right right right that guy who did Sikario he did he did he's doing dune too. He didn't the first one That oh that's just Arrival and the other one is the arrival Arrivals a fucking great movie.
2:40:07That's a great movie. Yeah. What's the best alien movie of all time? It has to be alien. I mean it's right there. That has to be number one. That's the best what's in contention you think Nothing alien and that's it. It's alien and that is everybody else playing for second best. What about independence day? That's kind of like It's not like Got damn good too close encounters is pretty fucking amazing That might be the best UFO alien movie, but the best like in space alien movie is alien Try to be serious because it meant in black is a good movie. That's a good point. That's a comedy It's fun to fun movie.
2:40:45It's a fun movie But as far as movies we'd say you have to see this movie like the original alien really Scott That movie is fucking incredible that movie so good And that was a movie where Sigourney Weaver was the lead badass woman. Yeah, which was a rare thing Was that the first of that archetype that I believe so? I believe so if I if I didn't think like of successful mainstream movie super heroine Who the bias natures is Can I pee real quick? Yeah, yeah, we'll pee we're right back Everybody you know and we're back and we're back. What are we just talking about? Sigourney Weaver in aliens so she had to be the first super heroine.
2:41:27Yeah, the first lead Action movie badass woman who is before her. I don't know who would be before her Jackie Brown No, that was after that was after Oh, he Brown That's character. Do you know about a lot because alien was 79 That one but yeah, there'd be no Michelle Rodriguez without Sigourney Weaver the tank top. She was in aliens too. She was in aliens too with Sigourney Weaver. How many aliens are there? Five or set with a bunch now because the alien the covenant. That's a really good one Was the was the last one there was Prometheus and then the covenant covenant was the last one right? Is that correct?
2:42:05You see the new predator. Yes, is it good? We're talking about the one with the Native American lady. It's on I think it's on a little bit. That's dope. Okay. Okay. That's fun. Check it out. That's fun. That's ridiculous It's fun. It's good. Is it as good as the Charlie Sheen Porsche Heist movie almost almost okay. It's close. If it's close. I'm game. It's fun It's fun movie so female John Wick with aliens I'm sold When they even went like when they gave up they'd went predator versus alien remember that I feel like there's a Taco Bell tie in Yeah, why not why wouldn't it be? Oh, there was one before she was playing she was in movies in the 70s.
2:42:51Right. Why she was Jackie Brown? I think right what moves when she in the 70s though Foxy Brown The thing about it is though. I don't think they were big action movies like when you got a budget like a Sigourney Weaver Is the lead of a Ripley Scott film And it's a giant budget. It's a crazy movie. That was a huge hit. That movie was a huge hit. He did gladiator too. Yes. They're doing gladiator Scott has done he did one of the aliens There's only 11 million budget. That's it. Yeah damn So it was but but it had big actors right like that one dude Tom Sherrick whatever the fucks knows What's his name in retro spec maybe I don't know that guy was big at the time.
2:43:35I was like this is five years before his name Tom what? Skirt Tom scirt. Yeah, he played the captain. That's it's a crazy ass fucking movie man. That's a good movie Because that's probably what it's gonna be like yeah, it's probably gonna be like parasites just like parasites on earth I mean, there's a lot of different instances in the wild of creatures doing that like there's that wasp That uh injects tarantulas with its uh with its babies It kills spiders and injects them with its babies and the babies like feed off the carcass of the of the spider That's crazy. They're so evil. Isn't there one where there's like this parasite that grows out of an ants head?
2:44:15Oh, yeah Yeah, it's cordyceps mushrooms That's what's that movie uh the last of us. Oh, dude. That's so good. I love that show. It's great Someone maybe it was a reddit thread. They're saying because they tried to Port over video game movies for so long and they could never get it right and I think the person in this thread was saying Like the kids are finally old enough and becoming directors where they can do it the source material justice Whereas before is just these people who are like trying to make a mortal combat film But they didn't grow up with they don't have a love letter to it, you know Yes, yes, and now we're getting to see great video game IP flourish like the last of us is phenomenal Yeah, but it also has to be something like HBO or someone's willing to let someone you know get really wild yeah You know like that would be hard that was HBO right yeah, they'd be hard to do anywhere else like HBO game of thrones Prano's right they'll they'll go out there with a show You know, yeah when I was coming up, I mean just the video game movies that existed there was street fighter with Van Damme There was there was moral combat So as a kid you were you loved watching these movies, but they weren't good dragons layer.
2:45:24Wasn't there dragons layer moving? I don't know if there is that a game I don't know Dragons layer was a game that everybody's a player Mario brothers Dragons layer was a game that everybody used to play in like the 1980s and it was like a cartoon Of each thing that you did you get to see whether or not you were successful So you would do this little move and if you slipped and fell or if the the night got your dragon got you You would die, but you get to see how you would die So instead of it being like an interactive cartoon. It was like semi -interactive like you've made the right choices It would do the right thing and the character would do the right thing and then you would you would be hitting your joystick Getting it to go through these doors and then every time you did it like this little video would play out It was very addictive and it was the first time there was ever anything like this Where there was like a game that you could Watch like a cartoon movie and Depending upon whether you did the right thing or the wrong thing you would see this happen or see you get killed Well, that's 1983 Full playthrough So this is all the things that you would have to do to to be successful and every time you do it you this little video Is it kind of Prince of Persia?
2:46:39But it's like you know dragons and knights and shit. It was fun But you know compare that to world of warcraft or compare that to You know what what's the big one that Diablo the new Diablo or compare that to call a duty. That's the big one That's just crack. That's just straight. Oh, and Did you ever see this game? This was an arcade game that was like dragons layer This was the only thing that was really cool about this is this was holograms So this was like floating above your controllers You controlled it a lot like dragons. That's how it worked. There's like these weird little videos that would play Like an old west character, but it was all holograms like this doesn't do any justice why how cool it was Oh, so in real life when you're watching it on the video screen.
2:47:23It's a hologram. Yeah, it was very strange Whoa sick in the 90s and arcades. It's all I remember it That's how I remember dragons layer bus of that blank a little too close that dude's body from my liking Oh, you didn't you know they didn't edit that out. It's not like they have one guy and they spliced in the second guy How much you think I was right in front he got paid four dollars I got paid by fortnight they they used my dancing in a emo Really and they they paid me they paid me like five grand nice. Which buy with it Uh, just like more fortnight stuff. No, I'm just gonna not I have no idea what I spent with it, but It's kind of cool because I post the dance video sometimes and I guess their programmers found what on my YouTube like it had no views Maybe they're comedy fans.
2:48:04That's how they found out But like they just hit me up and they go hey the game's gonna use This excerpt of you dancing is like a skin organ emope will give you five grand and I was like fuck yeah Wow, it's still one of my favorite credits in Hollywood because it's just so weird and bizarre So you're in fortnight. I have a fortnight dance. It's called it's called no, but I know it's really popular So it's called the vibin emote So if you look at the vibin emote that's me dancing. Oh shit. Let me see that yeah So they just took an excerpt from like me when I was dancing in my apartment in career town Sometimes if I like really like a song.
2:48:38I'll just set the camera up and dance to it. Yeah, that's me There's somebody little kids that's right another shit. Oh this dance It looks very different than you bro. That's true. They could have just done that. They didn't have to pay you No, you needed me to you needed me is the story. They could have just paid you No, I just want to put this out there fortnight. I have more dances if you need more moves. Yeah, I don't think they needed to pay you I think they could have just got that in if they were like less grouply probably But I think they were under hot water because it was a moment in time where people were kind of upset that they were lifting some of the dances like Remember that backpack kid the floss dance Remember that little kid.
2:49:19Yeah, I remember his name is backpack kid. I guess as a meme. You talking about the kid on the boat No, you know this this is so dumb. You're seeing the little kid on the boat. No, but remember this dance Mm -hmm. Yeah, some kid in the backpack invented it really and then they Fortnight used the dance and then there was some sort of hey people should be getting paid the Carlton They put in there and there was this gray area of like should we pay these people So this kid is saying that that was his move and they stole it? Well, they probably patched it up and played nice and everything But he's the inventor of that dance really invented it himself.
2:49:53Yeah There's no dispute I don't know if anybody else claimed it or tried to say that that was them. What's that called flossing? Yeah It's a strange move too. So I don't know how he wouldn't have it's pretty cool Yeah, I like watching people do silly dances some dude did this Michael Jackson thing the other day Like he high five this dude and then immediately started moon walking And it was really good. Yeah, it's like very impressive It's so interesting seeing social media get to a place where there are Like viable careers in in these spaces that didn't exist before like Charlie Demelio or whatever like you could just be A cute girl dancing on tiktok and that's used to have to be able to sing and They would send you to acting school if you were just like a pretty person like they had to give you these other skill sets And now you can just like dance to certain songs What do you think that's like psychologically?
2:50:46Because at least if you're a person is singing songs like people really love my songs She probably sings now, you know like but it was a springboard like she got famous for her dancing does she sing? Probably I don't know. Well imagine someone who doesn't sing right just imagine being famous just for being alive That's a that's a that's available to you now. That's a new thing. That's a new thing. Yeah It's also interesting because like when I got in the comedy and like fame was a byproduct But I think with younger people sometimes they just want to be famous And then really care or know what for I don't remember we were shooting a thing we're shooting the sonic commercial years ago And kids saw camera did so many of them would say make me famous It wasn't I want to do a thing that I love and then become famous.
2:51:30It's wanted to be fame famous fame is a byproduct not I don't know if it should be the goal. Yeah, I don't know if that's the healthiest. No, it's not a good. It's not a good goal Because it's you'll never Happy yeah, yeah, should be happy if you're doing what you like to do You know the the the idea of just being happy just by fame. That's a trick and that's that's gonna come with a lot of problems of its own And you don't want them You you're better off just Constraint in what you love to do and just try to get good at it. Yeah. Yeah Trying to just get famous you're gonna do some stuff that you wish you hadn't done You're gonna say some things you wish hadn't said you're gonna try to get a lot of attention It's gonna come with a lot of extra baggage Yeah, and the fame isn't exactly the fun.
2:52:14There are some parts of it that are Fun, but then it also impedes your life like well depends on if that's all you do right? Like there's people out there that are you know air quotes influencers all they do is like Either you know, you're the Kardashians or you're whoever you are You're doing something and you're making videos and you're that's your whole thing is you getting out there It's not like exceptional content. It's not like they're doing Crazy backflips and you know climbing mountains they're not doing anything crazy. Yeah, they're just being a lot right being alive with a lot of money And big ass being beautiful that helps that helps But it's also being around famous people and you know, oh my god It's the glamorous life and then people are sucked in and if you edit it correctly We do a nice fast keep my attention span moving you can suck me in for years Yeah, you forget editing is such a strong Uh, necessity nowadays too.
2:53:08Yeah, it's almost more important than a performer I mean, it's hyperbole, but a great editor can really elevate some content Yes, like Shultz is guys amazing. I mean what Shultz is fantastic to begin with But editing when you're trying to grab people's attention in 20 30 seconds with all the zooms and though all these psychological tricks too Like shaking it having the text come in Mm -hmm So now even to promote as a younger comic people coming up you have to be aware of You might have a great bit, but you have to have it be a little cutier than it would be live Right, you have to use a certain type of Captions you have to maybe zoom in so you have to give yourself Uh, I don't know the benefit of the doubt or set yourself up for success via editing.
2:53:49Yeah Yeah, and there's so many different ways to do it now too, you know, it's like So many people found different avenues to make viral things like remember during the pandemic when Shultz had to turn your phone Oh, yeah, brilliant. Yeah, he had a totally different style of comedy than he does because he you know on stage He'll let things cook he'll have a long pause to give you the time to think about some ridiculous shit that he just said That's yeah, that's the fun of the live show right, but in the the These Instagram videos sideways videos. He was very fast -paced. It was very fast -paced.
2:54:23Yeah, and It's punchline after punchline after punchline. He does the Netflix thing, you know, Shultz saves America punchline punchline punchline punchline Right, it's very fast. It's it's really interesting because he adapted yeah found like some new pathway That's a real sign of intelligence right if you could find like a new way to do it and did the right and don't do zoom stand -ups on I mean, of course, yeah, I should but find a way there's a there's another pathway There's gotta be something else a lot of people did they they found ways to do funny clips and you learn just by seeing what is being propagated What how people's behaviors?
2:54:57Even when I edit my stand -up, I take the air out if I get a laugh I'll cut the laugh short just to get to the next part. You're just competing against people's thumbs swiping up So sometimes because if you um You you can make your joke a little tighter via editing Mm -hmm, you know anything because if you're an unknown and you're just competing about people You're competing with people swiping their thumb and watching something else. Yeah You can't really worry about that. Yeah Well, it's all trial and error too. It's people still love stand -up dude They're still gonna love it and if it if it's below jazz In the so be it so be it.
2:55:36I love it. It's it's fine. It doesn't need any more attention than it gets It's fine. Yeah, and the people that love it love it and the people that don't that's fine too It's all fine. Don't worry about Who swipes and who doesn't? Why worry about doing what you enjoy do that thing and make it so that something you like I like it. This is good. Well, that's the way I want to do it. Bam That's where I'm at now with stand -up. Perfect. Very happy Especially after doing that last special I'm gonna place where I'm comfortable I called the special this new one house money Because things are great um, you know with my parents and financially and The pressure of your parents.
2:56:11Yeah, overwhelming blanket. It's a cliche You know the whole immigrant be a doctor or whatever. Yeah, they want you to be successful It's hard to get over here, but I love them and I know what it was rooted in it was just rooted in their offspring wanting of course You love that they can yeah, yeah, it's rooted in love. It's a little smothering But you made it out. Yeah, I think it allowed me to be where I'm at now So it's rocket fuel and yeah, there's something to be said for that There's something to be said for some uncomfortable shit that makes you work harder You know because the the worst situation is you're too comfortable and you don't work hard enough And then you're then you don't have a career because you've just been lazy you could have had a career We've know a lot of guys like that Right, we know a lot of guys that just for whatever reason they didn't Fuckin put it together, right?
2:56:55They didn't work as hard as everybody else did They just didn't try as hard the for whatever reason they just fucking cashed out, you know, yeah, it sucks It's a real bummer because you learned at an early age of the value of hard work in discipline And I think a lot of people just don't know the value of that and they just rather just indulge Because indulging is fun. We all love to do it and stand up comics are you know most of us are pretty indulgent silly So you've got to find a way to harness that like you're the boss of you You got to figure out a way to say like hey, I'm the boss of me I will sit my ass down and I'm fucking work on the shit There's a level of entrepreneurship that I think is great about stand up too And I think that's why it works so hard is because I knew what my life would be like if I just stayed up Boeing It was a means to an end.
2:57:43It's not like I did engineering just so I can get a legit job and be able to move out to LA and and drive up to Hollywood So it was always a means to an end But I would always when I'm in that cubicle I knew what my life would be like if I just stayed up Boeing Whereas I didn't know what it would be like I knew what I wanted it to be and that drove me Whereas okay, I know this movie. I don't know this movie and I love this right so that was the fire for me Right just not wanting to live for tomorrow Yeah And when you pursue something and When you pursue something like that It's exciting. It's fulfilling.
2:58:22It's very exciting, but it's also very daunting right especially in the beginning God I remember the early days where I wasn't sure what it was gonna make it was just when they're I was gonna be able to make a living It was it's so weird. It's such a weird feeling, you know You're so everything's like open ended. You never know You know, you don't know the one the the next set you have where you bomb. Oh my god. Am I gonna have to quit? Do I suck forever? Yeah, am I gonna figure this out? Those are the best moments when I was young when I was for starting out was after bombs after bombs You learn a lot So much sharper it sucks, but you either get better or you quit Yeah, you get better.
2:58:59You quit. I always think about that whenever people get in a standup if they bomb And they don't love standup. They're out pretty fast. Yeah, because that's not a fun feeling unless you have a screw loose And you love it and I'm that way Whereas I was more emboldened after a bomb. I was like, okay, why didn't it work? How do I tweak this? I took it as is the audience being editor. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was fuel. Mm -hmm It's on to an Iable either laugh or they don't And you know people used to say like I think Bill Cosby says there's no bad crowds just bad comedians But he's out of his fucking mind clearly And I used to say by that when he never had to work the places that I had to work I had to work bars in the middle of Massachusetts and Rhode Island and fucking Connecticut like shut your mouth.
2:59:39There's bad Bad audiences But through those bad audiences you learn Cloud, you know crowd Control mitigation shit. You learn how to work the crowd you learn how to like capture people's attention So you don't let them drift off. You don't like you can't they're not all good crowds You learn how to corral energy Also if someone is being disruptive do they do they have a good heart? Do they mean well? It's a little too tipsy and kind of harness that back into your set and be playful Cos some comics don't realize and they just go nuclear on the person And then it's like beating up a toddler Because then you've lost the good will of the crowd everyone's like, yeah, you just fuck this chick up For no reason and then you try to do a joke and they go no you're a monster dude Yeah, it's basically like having road rage like you're in the car.
3:00:25You're like shut the fuck up You know like what the fuck you doing bro? Fuck you. No fucking right right you're you're so amped up because you're already in a car You're driving fast when you're on stage your brain is amped up when someone chimes in you like what? Shut up you stupid bitch Even though he's technically oh my god. Yeah, yeah, there's a nicer way to say keep it down And you may have lost the crowd by saying you Some people that you just have to address yeah to get rid of them They're gonna ruin your show no matter what you do and they do it on purpose Sometimes they're so malicious and mean That you have car blanche to fucking lay into this guy And it's kind of fun because sometimes these people are so Singular minded and they think the world revolves around them when the crowd starts booing the person And you see that switch in their eyes like oh, they've been perceiving the whole situation wrong right Like a why is this entire room booing you if you're the good guy right?
3:01:17You know what I mean everyone's like get the fuck shut fuck you They got babysitters and shit, you know they hate this guy Yeah, so I kind of like teaching a lesson sometimes when that happens I'm like I do a million sets. This is fun for me to to teach a grown man a lesson Good you hear all these booze why are they hissing at you dude Yeah, it's fun to educate sometimes while some people just they're drunk and they don't even realize what the consequences of what they're doing There's just being so selfish. They don't care about the other 300 people in the room. Yeah, I just want to yell out But most of the time they just they mean well, but they've had a few drinks and you can reign them in booze is The best and the worst thing for comedy.
3:01:56Yeah, for real Ideally you want everyone who's great on it. Yeah, you want it people can handle their liquor But every now and then you'll get that's not true. How is it a mother ship because you run a tight ship? No pun intended It cuz you have put the phone in the bag. Yeah, we have to kick people out that are disrupting the show Is that happens still yeah, it's happened. It happens. It's gonna happen No matter if you have live comedy you're gonna have people that are just hammered. We had a lady go into a K hole She's on ketamine. She went into a K hole in the middle of the crowd. How's the K hole audience member?
3:02:27What's that like? The She took it opiates or what she took where you like this joke's really good She's fucking organizing. I wasn't there And it was the night that I was off. I think or I wasn't on the show. I don't remember what it was But either way the lady went into a K hole And they had the Narcan ready they thought she'd you know overdose, but no she's just Fucking gone because a lot of people take this nasal spray of ketamine and they take it like as a therapist Quasi -dimensional traveling in the middle of a comedy show I don't understand when people go to that hard and then pay tickets to an expensive show Like some people will go to a concert and just be fucked up beyond believe yeah, yeah You know you that's our experience You're not even mentally here to enjoy Beyonce or whatever it is.
3:03:19Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think it's the experience sometimes people say I'm gonna take an edible and go see a show you're like How do you finesse that though like that lady on K? I don't know she was really processing the jokes right? Oh, she definitely wasn't she means she was gone I mean she collapsed. She was gone Yeah, I've never done ketamine like that I don't know what happens, but the the way they do it if you do a lot of it you go into what they call a K hole Whatever that means But I know that people have like hallucinations and they have like these weird Experiences where they're interacting with interdimensional beings.
3:03:53They're in empty apartment buildings and space and shit Well weird stuff weird stuff. Yeah, yeah, it seems like you don't need a show for that. It seems like a heavy drug Well, it seems like one that you could Don't be out in the town on that stuff. Yeah, but I guess people microdose it. I think I guess that's the thing This girl the the anti -depression effects from microdosing They used to have a ketamine drip thing that Neil did. Oh, yeah, Brennan did. Yeah, he said he thought that he would go to a doctor's office And it would be like my old. He's like no, it's tripping balls at the doctor's office an IV drip of ketamine just like Interacting with space beings.
3:04:33You shit. Yeah, I remember when he was going through a phase of like trying different things for Depression he's doing it. He showed me a video of the magnet thing And then K I guess and then I Alaska. Yeah, you tell me about it He was doing a lot. I didn't know that you could do I Alaska that frequently Probably not supposed to He's a pioneer. He's a wild dude, but it did help him. It definitely did help. Yeah, I've noticed I've no difference Yeah, he talked about it. It's like yeah, forget what percent he believes in dog now stuff just like yeah It might be real It might be something to it. I'm so scared of I Alaska.
3:05:08He actually asked me because the I like control right you had a bad mushroom trip. Yeah, because you like control well Yeah, exactly and you can't control when you're on drugs, you know not when those not mushrooms. That's for damn sure If you try it'll take you down a very bad road. Yes, you gotta learn how to let go I know our shuffier was Because Ari was living in LA at the time. Paul short as I was go. Oh, you just did it he talked about it. Let's go I mean, I don't know He's like I everyone said like what you did if he starts wearing wooden beads on the strangle As soon as you do too much I was he start me wearing wooden beads.
3:05:45I'm always like bro. No, you're taping You okay bro. Do you have an eagle feather in your hair because I'll kill you Have you done I was good no, so then what's your why haven't you? Uh, I haven't had the opportunity. I haven't had people that I want to do it with having had a It's illegal in America. So oh it is. You do it illegally here. You go somewhere else Um, yeah, it shouldn't be but also maybe you should know who the fuck is making it and how they're doing it and I've done DMT though, which is the The what that's the active ingredient. I saw a guy take a hit from a DMT pen at a party And it was like unsettling to watch him Because you just see him blast off in a chair.
3:06:31I'm like this is a two personal someone like singing a geigeric off or something Very weird to do that for everybody. He just blasts off for like five minutes and you just like I go okay Jesus kind of weird. Yeah, it's a potent drug like it's a hit off of a vape pen I think it's a portal into another dimension I really do. I know that sounds completely insane especially from the host of fear factor Right, but I think it's in your mind. I mean they know that your brain produces those chemicals Why would your brain produce chemicals that let you interact with beings And other dimensions that are giving you wisdom.
3:07:03Why why would that be something your brain makes? I don't know what the speculation is that your brain makes it when it thinks it's gonna die And that you when you interact with that dimension that's your spirit. That's your soul That's what the essence of you not your your physical being and your life experiences and your memories That's the essence of you goes to this place and that's the only way to access it or maybe some people say you can access it through kundalini Yoga this I've never done it that way, but there's I have done what they call holotropic breathing I've had psychedelic experiences just from breathing you can get to like an acid state just breathing.
3:07:42It's really wild but The the physical process of dying Like when people have near death experiences it sounds a lot like a psychedelic trip Like a lot of these people that go to the light and then come back like they they die for like 30 seconds Then they come back and they have this crazy experience of interacting with beings and interacting with angels and interacting with devils and Weird shit man and a lot of them have these weird stories and They've tried to like map out what the fuck is happening with the human mind while that's going on But it's it's just a lot of speculation in terms of like They didn't even know like what part of the brain is producing this chemical They knew it's produced by the liver and I think it's produced by the lungs But like they think it's produced by the whole brain now.
3:08:39Isn't that what Strasmond said the last time he was here But your brain makes the most potent psychedelic drug known to man That's one of the reasons why that stuff is such a short Like the time that you're if you take DMT your body brings it back to baseline very quickly Like how long you're blasted for 10 15 minutes and then you're back and your stone colds over And you were just in another dimension. That's crazy. It's but in your back is a party and nothing else It's even more crazy. You have a really hard time remembering it You had one of the most insane experiences you could ever possibly imagine you remember little snippets of it Just like a dream.
3:09:16Yeah, I'm like that. I'm bad at remembering remembering dreams. Yeah, she could enjoy something Yeah, everybody is and that that is like a function of that same thing That when you take the actual chemical when you take the actual DMT molecules the same thing that happens You have very difficult time holding on to those memories because memories are weird anyway You know, we all have false memories well distorted memories you have an approximation of things I'm jealous some people have iron trap memories. I'll talk to a buddy and he he'll bring up an event from Six years ago and like I don't work that way.
3:09:51I'm so jealous some people just have super memories like that They definitely do with some things You know, I always wonder like do they have less experiences in their life So is that like more memorable because they don't have anything that stands out from the norm I think it's the way their brain processes information and events like it Has a better filing system or something? Well some people definitely have photographic memories Like they can remember everything absolutely perfectly. You know that lady from taxi. Yeah I was just thinking about that 60 minutes piece that She was on there talking about like she's one of these people like a With super memory super memory.
3:10:25Yeah, like very different than normal good memory even people who can remember lines Very easily. I'm so jealous of oh, yeah, you know, cuz what a leg up you have over the competition If you could just read a thing be like got it. Yeah, and you could do it. I know that's crazy That's probably hurt Mary Lou Henner. Yeah highly superior auto biographical memory a rare condition identified And only a hundred people worldwide this trait drives her to advocate for more funding for brain research That's insane That's incredible. It's a super when you hear her like recite things that she can remember.
3:10:56It's bananas. Yeah It's bananas, but that would be an amazing advantage to be an actor for sure You read the script once and like I got it I know exactly what you're gonna say and then I know exactly what I'm gonna say. How are you one news radio with lines? That was okay. Yeah, you know That was okay It's it's a complicated little thing to remember everyone's process is different to how to retain that just going over me Was always just repetition he have to do a lot of repetition over and over and over again say that a lot right down I was here get on your feet so like pace and see the words.
3:11:27So it's in your body I heard Riz Ahmed you know him as an actor no grays. He's been sound of music or sound of metal Um the two very different movies He was in the sound of music or the sound of metal one of those pretty sure is sound of metal But he's a super talented actor and I heard he like runs while he does his lines and just He himself out of his Was he I feel like everyone was in Oppenheimer. I'm a damn good movie How crazy is it they went after him for communism? What was that how crazy is they went after him for communism? Oh, that's what they got him on well. That's what they're going after him for that was the thing good They get you yeah, but I mean the guy who invented the fucking bomb blame along.
3:12:12Yeah What if the movie ended after they dropped the bomb in everyone's years and then you see the credits? But it's funny. Good. Yeah, but you saw they have to do that back end where he felt bad and shit He's like what have I done one of my favorite all -time videos. Let's leave it on this Is the Oppenheimer video of him describing what he said when the first bomb went off when he quoted the Bogavart Gita Let's watch we'll leave with this for him Yeah, I appreciate you. Love you death. Thank you so much Your new comedy special. Yeah, it's called house money. It's on my YouTube channel So if you go to youtube .com slash for he man or and for free It's for free and for he man war on Instagram and all the other social media platforms and always the comedy store.
3:12:57Yeah Oppenheimer Shit Few people Few people cried Most people were silent I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture the Bhagavad Gita Vishnu Just trying to persuade the prince that He should do his duty and To impress him Takes on multi armed form When says now I am to come death the destroyer of worlds I suppose we all thought that one way or another That's a quote that's a bar that's a bar somebody put some hip hop beat underneath. Yeah, I probably is already in a song That should be in a Wu time song. All right. Goodbye everybody. Thank you. Bye You
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Fahim Anwar is a stand-up comic, actor, and host of "The Fahim Anwar Dance Hour" podcast. His new special, "Fahim Anwar: House Money," is free to watch on YouTube.
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