#2115 - Riley Gaines

28:43Because I mean, really what we're applauding is our own erasure, our own demolition. And so it was right then and there that again, like a slap across the face. I was like, how in the world can we as women, as female athletes, expect someone to stand up for us? If we aren't even willing to stand up for us. Like this has to come from us. Um, so again, I knew all season, the unfair competition was wrong. I knew all season that the locker room aspect was wrong. I knew that the silencing that we were facing from our universities. I knew all that was wrong. We all did. But it wasn't until this official reduced everything that we had worked our entire lives for, down to a photo op, to validate the feelings and the identity of a man at the expense of our own.

29:36That's really when I decided that I couldn't continue being silent. And so what was the first thing you did? Um, as you can imagine, there was a ton of reporters there, like I said, which swimming is not a sport that garners media attention. But this meet was unique because there was. And so my inbox was filled with different reporters who had been reaching out to me from all the different outlets, left leaning, right leaning, everything in between, uh, who were desperately hoping to get a quote or an interview that they could take back to their editor. Um, so they could have this story because up until this point, remember, really no one had spoken about this, at least not with their, their face and their name to it.

30:18Um, some people anonymously, even some of his teammates had spoken anonymously at this point. Um, and so we had been this training that we went to previously. I mentioned where we had to use learn how to use she her pronouns. Uh, we were also told that any media, uh, opportunity that came our way, we had to forward on to our sports information director. Now this has been the case in the past. They had never addressed this in the past because again, swimming is just not a sport where this is ever. So you had never been contacted by the media previously in your career? Uh, I mean, I had done some stuff with the SPN and, and you know, uh, I broke the SEC record and all that stuff.

30:58And so that was a pretty big deal. And, and so there had been other stuff, but all mild, like softball kind of thing. But there was nothing where you had to run it. No training before you were allowed to have these conversations. Correct. So this was the first time. Correct. And so, um, they told us though, like, will help you coordinate. Right. Can I ask you, can I pause there? Come on. Do they have the right to do that? Is it anywhere established that they can dictate who you're allowed to communicate with in the media? Has this ever been an issue before where they can restrict your ability to communicate?

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33:52Go to robinhood .com -boost over 8x the national average saving account interest rate claim. It's based on data from the FDIC as of November 18th, 2024. Robinhood Financial LLC, member SIPC, Gold Membership is offered by Robinhood Gold LLC. Not that I know of. I will say, like, and I'll be honest here, like my school University of Kentucky, the athletic side of the university and of this space treated me awesome. Like my athletic director, Mitch Barnhart at Kentucky, who's been there for 20 plus years. An incredible Christian, just an incredible stand up guy who leads with, by example, he's a wonderful human.

34:43He's always been supportive of me. Not even necessarily my stance, but supportive of me, which means a lot. And my coach, Lars Orgensen, who had coached there for 10 years at the time, amazing and supportive of me. But a lot of the kind of silencing and submission stuff came from the academic, academia side, or the compliance side of things. So my athletic side of my university was wonderful. But yeah, the compliant side. I was even told specifically, Riley, remember, you signed a scholarship, and when you signed that scholarship, they went as far to say, you gave away your rights to speak in your own personal capacity.

35:26Remember, you represent us. Remember whose name is across your chest and across your cap, because it's not your own, it's ours. This is specifically said. Yeah. They said, we have already taken your stance for it. And you signed away your rights to have your opinions on something that deeply affects your life's work. Right. For a university that's terrified of pushback. And understand, this is not specific to just the University of Kentucky. This is why there are so few voices really speaking out in my position, right, like young college -aged girls who have been impacted or affected by this. This is why so few are willing to take a stand.

36:07It's because it works. Look at what happened at Roanoke College in Virginia. It's the same story because it's always the same story where this mediocre man, who swims three years on the men's team, decides his senior year he wants to join the women's team to become a record smasher. Same thing happened there. These girls, they're getting in contact with me saying, hey, this boy on the boys' team wants to join the women's team. But they told me that they got to vote on if they wanted him on the team or not. And so these girls, you know, they're talking to me. They're like, yeah, they're 17 of us on the team.

36:43And all 17 of us are going to say no. And I was like, that's great. You know, we haven't seen really unity in this topic amongst the whole team. So that's wonderful. And so they'll, they go into their meeting where they were told they got to anonymously vote. The coach walks in, has the boy with them. He says, hey, I know I told you the vote was going to be anonymous, but it's actually going to be by show of hands. And I'm going to let the boy here give a speech before. So the boy gets up, gives us talk and he says, hey, if you don't vote, yes, I will kill myself and it will be your fault. So as you can imagine, 13 of those 17 girls changed their vote to yes.

37:23And it's because they were told they were going to be a murderer. And three of them are like, go ahead, kill yourself. But honestly, like, think about that. That's a crazy thing to say. They're equating, advocating for fair play and privacy in areas of undressing with having blood on your hands. Yeah. Same thing that Lea Thomas' school, you pin, told those girls that if they do speak out in any harm whatsoever comes towards their his way, right, whether it's through social media, through, I mean, emotional harm, physical harm, self -inflicted for that matter. They told these girls that they would solely be responsible, that would make them a potential murderer, and you don't want to be a potential murderer.

38:06Do you? No, so I suggest you be kind and I suggest you be inclusive. God, that is so insane. It had to feel like a twilight zone. It did. I mean, this whole process, even looking back now, and maybe at the time, like, I didn't necessarily see it for exactly what it is, having really removed myself from the situation now, and looking back, it's like, whoa, how did they get us all to not that I ever conformed? Again, I never thought this was right, but I mean, we went along with it. Right. And how in the world did they manage to achieve that? And I think a lot of this, truly, again, being a college athlete during the time of COVID, I think that's when they learned they could control us.

38:54Because again, our universities told us during that time, my junior year, the vaccines were mandatory. You had to get the vaccine. Me, look, at this point, I'd already had COVID, right? I had the natural, I had the antibodies, which I thought was the best natural immunity. Yes. I'm young, I'm healthy, I'm not anti -vax or anything like that, but I just didn't really see the point of me getting the COVID -19. And so I said, no, I said, I'm not getting that. They said, Riley, remember, you're the team captain. You're going to be hurting your team if you don't get it. And you're supposed to be the leader, Riley.

39:34And so I really struggled with this because I didn't want to be hurting my team. Before my own personal success, I cared about how my team did, how my teammates did. And so I really struggled with this. But finally, I realized, you know, mandatory didn't actually mean law. It doesn't actually mean required. And so I stood my ground. But truthfully, I think that's the first time that I learned how to stand up for myself. And I think that incident and really the whole COVID thing helped me stand up for myself. My senior year went, again, the same tactics, the same emotional blackmail and gaslighting, really, that they were using.

40:12I think it helped me my senior year too. Well, I'm sure it helped you see the world now that you're out in a different light. Definitely. It's a cult. I mean, and that's really what it is. And it doesn't make sense to anybody who's not in the cult. But the people in the cult, they'll use terms. Like when that person said, if you don't vote for me, I'm going to kill myself. They use these very sneaky terms, like life -saving gender -affirming care in regards to castrating children and putting them on hormone blockers and removing their breasts. They use this crazy term that seems like, well, it's got to be good.

40:52It's life -saving, gender -affirming. But really, like, think about the message that even just the verbiage of gender -affirming care sins, whether it's to a minor or anyone for that matter, we're telling them, especially kids, we're telling them that they're correct to feel as if they were born in the wrong body. Which, what a terrible message. We should be telling them that they're perfect just the way God created them. That's what we should be telling these kids, but that's not the message that they're being sent. No, it's one of the most bizarre things. And even, like, sorry to it, but even this verbiage of sex reassignment surgery, it sounds harmless.

41:38But when you say it, it's as if you're subconsciously admitting that you can, in fact, reassign your sex, which is so detrimental to the English language. And we're playing into their game when we use that verbiage, even the verbiage of biological woman. I've got such a problem with. And I didn't always, because, again, I thought I had to make the distinction, right? I am a biological female. Thomas is a biological male. I had to take a lot of math courses, upper -level math courses in college. And so I'm saying there one day, and I'm like, if this was an algebra equation, wouldn't those words biological just like cancel each other out?

42:16Like, why are we saying that? And then it hit me. I'm like, how silly and redundant, as if I have to add that prerequisite of biological to declare I'm a biological being. That's so dumb, quite frankly. And when we say it, it says if we're subconsciously admitting that there's an unbiological alternative to being a man or woman or a male or a female or a girl or boy. And there's not. Right. There's no... Yeah. Did you ever see that interview where that bike racer is talking to one of the late -night hosts? And they were asking about... We're on the cut IV. Biological women. And she's like, well, I am a biological human being, and I am a woman.

42:58So I'm a biological woman. And the host is just like... Yep. Fucking cowards. You're not saying anything? Totally. None of that seems nuts to you. Totally. And that's the game that's being played here, right? Yeah. Give an inch. They take a mile, which is why I've really realized now how powerful language our language is in the words that we use. Like, I'm very particular about what I say. Like, I won't call... I'll call... I try and just call Thomas. But people can legally change their name and like, whatever. But that's a guy. But I'm not calling him she. I'm not calling him her. It's silly.

43:40It's silly. And I won't say trans woman. Because again, that's admitting that this is some sort of subcategory of a woman. He's just a man. The ties have had it right forever. They don't pretend that they're women. They say, I'm a lady boy. I'm a lady boy. Yeah. And that's like, okay. It's like an accepted category. Yeah. No. Exactly. Transparency. So yeah. All of that to say... To get back to the very first question. Never in my short 23 years, would I have imagined that it's necessary to take the steps and the actions that we're taking. To even have to define this word woman. Right. But we've reached a point now.

44:24We're not only is it necessary, I would argue that it's urgent we define this word. And the nearly 250 -ish years we've been established as a country. We have never struggled to define this word. Right. Yet here in 2024, we have a sitting Supreme Court justice who can't even answer what a woman is because she claims she's not a biologist. Right. Well guess what? I'm not a veterinarian, but I know what a dog is. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life. It's a very dumb conversation. It is. And so, a big piece of what I've been working on. I've been working with Independent Women's Forum to develop and create a new piece of legislation that does just that define the word woman, woman, and other sex based terms in statute.

45:10It's been passed now in four different states. Kansas, Tennessee, Oklahoma, and Nebraska, both Oklahoma and Nebraska, by executive order, which a great leadership by Governor Pillen and Governor Stit of Oklahoma. It's tracking in like 13 different states right now. So again, all of that to say it's a tell -tell sign of where we are as a nation when we have to do what we're doing. Well, it's requiring a lot more pushback than most people are willing to do. Yeah. Because the activists on the side of promoting this nonsense are very loud and they've made it their entire identity to get this across.

45:49And they also connect themselves to the idea of this air quotes progress being ubiquitous, that it spreads across the country. And this is for them a sign that the world is moving in the right direction. So they're like vehemently opposed to any pushback against this. And they're really aggressive. But everyone on the side, it's like this is fucking crazy. Most of those people have jobs and families and obligations, and they're fucking busy. And they do not have time to sit at a council meeting with these fucking lunatics. It's 12 p .m. on a Monday, right? And have them scream into microphones, you're committing trans genocide.

46:33And you're like, oh, okay, what is this? What is this and how do I, how did this get started? It's like a zombie disease that made its way across the entire country. And they're like, oh, who got bit first? Exactly. Can we figure out what the fuck happened here? Who's doing this? How is it possible that anyone with children, anyone who's a father, who has daughters, is okay with this? How is that possible? This is nonsense at the highest level. And even though it's completely, it's not like close. You know, it's not like, well, I kind of see their point. No. It's not even remotely close. And yet it has been taken up by a giant swath of the greatest country the world has ever known.

47:17Like that is very bizarre. What I was going to say earlier is Douglas Murray, who's the British intellectual, who's a brilliant guy. And he said this. And when he first, he started saying it years ago, he's like, whenever a civilization is in collapse, they become obsessed with gender. It becomes a thing. It was with the Greeks and the Romans. It's like, it seems to be like a symptom. Step in the process. Yeah, it's a thing like, oh, see those hives that you have? Oh, you're infected. Oh, you're sick. Oh, you're, you're, you're, everyone's like changing their gender. And you got 50 % of kids in some colleges or LGBTQ, two, Q, I, A, S.

47:59What? How does it 50 %? This is a fucking mind virus. Like, what is going on here? And what Douglas has said is that this, you could find this throughout history. Of course. And honestly, if you take all of the different little pieces of what we're seeing, especially as it pertains to like the cultural issues that are really plaguing this country. Yeah. Right, if you look at the denial of objective truth, the shift in our language, like we mentioned, the breakdown of faith, we used to be a country that proudly said in God we trust, in one nation under God, you look at the breakdown of the nuclear family and really pinning parents and kids against each other.

48:39You look at the breakdown of our freedoms, such as the freedom of speech. You look at the propaganda that's being spread through the media. I mean, the list goes on of all of these different little things. If you put them together, it points in one direction. And that direction, not to sound conspiracist or crazy, here is truly Marxism. Or, or, right, like you talked to someone from North Korea, or China, or Germany, or Cuba, or Brazil, or Venezuela, or Russia, or any of these countries that have once embraced the socialist communist Marxist regime, and they will tell you that it's a slippery slope.

49:19And it's a slippery slope, but by the hands and feet of our own leaders, the people in the White House, we are actively being led down. And like you said, sex, the most basic of truth, the sheer essence of humanity, hate to break it to you, myself, every single person watching and listening, you're all here for man and woman. And so being asked to deny that is as if we're being asked to deny that the sky is blue. Or being told to say two plus two is five. And if anyone has read 1984, or look at a brief understanding of history, like you said, you will understand what it means when we start saying two plus two is five.

50:07It's a pretty scary, chilling thought, really. Well, if they can get you to give up one of the most basic things. There's no limits. Yes, there's no limits. Exactly. And then look, and I agree with you that it did start during COVID, because it started during this exercise of control and mandating things. They realized. Yeah, and they didn't do it based on any data. They didn't do it especially with young athletes, especially with young athletes. What they did to do is do that so that if you can get compliance with absolutely everybody. So if you can get the people who don't need this medication at all to mandate it for children, for young healthy athletes, for people that have zero fear of dying from COVID.

50:56And if you can force them into doing it, you can kind of force them to do a lot of things. If you can force them to accept the most chaotic notion, like that we shouldn't have a border and just let people run through. And if it's terrorists, well, hey, maybe they want a better life. Come on, come on. You're not going to vet anybody. You're going to let them in. And now you're saying that some of them should be allowed to vote. And you're going to give some of the money. And then New York City has the scam, where they're giving them debit cards with up to $10 ,000. And then meanwhile, poor people who live in New York City or citizens of the United States, they're shit out of luck.

51:33Sorry. My husband who's an immigrant, he came over from England, but did it the right way. We've been married for almost two years. And Joe, he still doesn't have his green card. Yet you have people walking over the border and they obtain it with ease. It makes it harder for people like my husband and my family where it's harder to travel. It's harder for job purposes when you don't have your documentation that you need. So you're right. It makes it harder on not only Americans, but the people who want to do it the right way. Do you think about it? Like, why are they doing that? Do you think they're doing it to import voters?

52:14Do you think they're doing it because some industries want encouraged cheap labor that this can break unions? Because if you've got a bunch of people that are undocumented, it's legal to hire them and you could pay them less. Why would you need a union when these people are just happy with whatever you give them? Exactly. Here's what I think. Joe Biden has every, he has the power right now to secure the border. He has that power, but he won't do it. So to me, what this looks like is the planned and controlled destruction of this nation. The reason why? I don't know if it's to get voters. I don't know if it's to what really the purpose is, but make no mistake.

52:59This is planned and it's controlled. Again, by the people leading this nation, which is a terrifying thought. Well, it makes sense. It sounds nuts. And if you had said this 20 years ago, I was like this, but it's not a mod. What are we doing in fighting royally here? Control, control, destruction of our United States. But now you look at it and you go, well, hold on. They learned anything from COVID. One of the things they learned is that during a period of destabilization, people are much more compliant. And COVID was a massive period of destabilization to the point where they put into place illogical laws that restricted people's ability to keep their businesses open, while leaving gigantic businesses wide open, walk through target, no one gets sick there.

53:45But if you go to mom and pops, candle shop, everyone's going to die. And none of that made any sense. None of it made any sense. And they got us to get through with that. If they can destabilize the country in the form of letting violence into the country. And then also, by the same time simultaneously, cracking down on gun laws in America and imposing more gun control in the citizens. I mean, I don't want to flunk in secure my tinfoil hat on. But if I was going to do it, if I was an evil person who had this goal of the destruction of America, that's how I would do it. I would get everybody involved in the most nonsensical bullshit arguments, like use 78 different gender pronouns.

54:30And if you go and call some of the Z -Zer, we have this conversation with Christopher Rufo. The other day, I saw the Z -Zer thing. Like he's literally got to go to court because he was not willing to call someone Z -Zer. So he's got to be charged with a crime. And they have to see whether or not he committed some hate crime. Well, that's why he didn't use a made up pronoun. This whole new Title IX rewrite that the Biden administration is pursuing. That will be, I believe, announced in the next couple of weeks. And under this new rewrite, it is sexual harassment. You would be guilty and charged with sexual harassment.

55:14If you, a 17 -year -old girl who's housed with a male in your dorm room, if you go to your administration and complain expressing that you feel uncomfortable being housed with a male, you're charged with sexual harassment. Not the man who's parading around your locker room or your bathroom. No, that's brave or stunning or inspiring or whatever other virtuous word they want to use. But you calling a spade a spade is grounds for sexual harassment. Bananas. Bananas. Like not even... Like a whole bunch of bananas. Yeah, like if you saw it in a fucking movie, you'd be like, no way. If there was a movie that someone put out in 2003 and this was the plot, you'd be like, sure, that's a fuck up, that's never gonna fly.

55:57That's so ridiculous. And here we are and it's moving further and further in that direction. You're seeing gaslighting on an unprecedented level. There was this group of people that got interviewed by the New York Times that are super fans of Joe Biden.

56:18It's wild. I mean, it's wild. It's wild to see these people. I think he's amazing. I think what he's doing is the greatest one that any president has done. He's got more. Karin Jean -Pierre, whatever the fuck her name is, said that the other day. She said that he... This has administration. They asked him, why does Biden need cue cards for everything? Why does he need cue cards when he sits down? Why does he need cue? Like, why does he need those things? So, this is the question. And she just rattles off how, what Joe Biden has done more in these three years than most presidents doing to him. Literally, let...

56:50Let's get it. That's the economy. Fun to fucking crazy wars. But that's what you'll find, too, when... Pull out of Afghanistan. When you have these Biden super fans, you'll ask him, okay, well, what is it that you like that Biden has done? He's amazing. Well, I just like what he stands for. He's inclusive. Yeah. They can't list anything. It's just nonsense. It's like, I like the 49ers. That's all it is. They're on a team and they'll fucking support that team full stop, no matter what. And it's that same sort of behavior that exists in any group of people that's ideologically captured. Whether, you know, you're a fucking lifelong Red Sox fan or you're a Democrat to the death.

57:33Blue, no matter who. And there's people that just do that proudly. That's true. And they announce it on Twitter and they get a bunch of people with 30 cats in their comments all commenting, yay. That's on both sides. And these people... Oh, 100%. It's on both sides. Oh, yeah. And that's what I've been. You know, I've always been my whole life. Like, I would say before being conservative, I've always been a Christian. And so my values as a Christian align more conservative. But what I've noticed these past two years, I really I opened to the amount of corruption, to the amount of string pulling, to the amount of really crazy people on both sides.

58:18So we talk a lot about the left because they don't try and mask theirs. At least the like very extreme radical left, like those protesters or the people who protest me, which like, psycho. I was in Milwaukee recently. And I had protesters stand outside my hotel room for hours, Joe. Hours chanting, Riley can't swim. I'm like, that's the best you got. Riley can't swim. That's kind of good. It is. I love that. When you're so good, that that's all they could say. I would challenge any of them to erase. So we see the left being crazy. Yeah. But there are some crazy people on it. Oh, 100%. It's a human characteristic.

58:59And people, they jump into these ideologies, not because they're well thought out and because it makes sense. It's because human beings are tribal by nature. And when we find a group, look, I see people talk about cultism. And I'm like, that's sometimes like in a documentary. I'm like, that seems like fun. Like, and I'm not. And I'm a grown man. If I was an 18 year old boy in that habit or a 16 year old boy, and I encountered them, I'm young and impressionable. 100 % like you get sucked into it. You can get sucked into the left. You could get sucked into the right. Right. And then you're around like minded people and the nuttiest, most ambitious and most fucking psychotic of that group are the ones on the far outlines.

59:37It's the patriot front on one side and it's antifa on the other side. And this is what happens. And this is what happens with human beings. And those people, they'll allow the antifa people to fucking blow up things and light things on fire. Like, well, some violence is necessary to achieve a means. It's like the strong arm of the democratic party. And then for the right, they've got to come ignore the really loony right wing fucking confederate flag dudes. Like you got to like kind of push those aside too. But it's, it's just a who's in charge, the Democrats, they're in charge. Who's running the media, the Democrats, almost universal.

1:00:15They've over taken every public square. Whether it's academia, whether it's corporate America, whether it's, yeah, our government, the media. I mean, every, every public square, which is why now, honestly, I feel like a lot of people who maybe would have considered themselves previously as kind of like apolitical or, or, you know, someone who didn't really look at what's going on around the world. Like you said, have jobs and families. They have their heads down. They don't look at the outside noise. I think it's waking a lot of people up, which is a good thing. Yeah. That's the beauty of a democracy really.

1:00:51The American Republic is having the people as the power we do have the power. And I feel like we're, we're engaging those people. Yeah, I think so. I mean, I think there's enough people that are realizing that this whole system is like completely fucked. And that it's really just about money and power and control. And they use all these social issues as, you know, it's like a galvanizing force to get whatever their financial agenda is pushed through. That's all it is. Like when the Biden administration is talking about DEI and all this, it's just tied into banks. It's how they can fund businesses and give them loans.

1:01:28If you have more people that are this will give you more of that. And it's just a way to control businesses. And the whole thing is just all about money. It's all a gigantic con game. And the more, like I said, if I was a fucking tinfoil hot guy, if I was thinking, this is someone trying to destroy the country. This is how I would do it. I would have people willing to vote for their own demise, not advocating for freedom. If that freedom gives freedom to the people that are opposed to them, we're so stupid and close minded, we're willing to burn it all down just to silence people. Right. Take away everyone's freedom because I don't want that person just agrees with me to have freedom.

1:02:10Crazy. And you put it that way. Exactly what's happening. It is exactly what's happening. And it's not the case when I was a kid. When I was a young guy, like you could like I had friends whose parents were conservative. And my parents were hippies and they hung out together. Everybody would go to dinner together. Like no one cared. Yeah, there's no more gray area. So it seems they could talk about stuff. You know, like they could have a agreement of what Reagan was good at. Like there was a conversation as well. You know one thing Reagan really did good. Like my fucking dad was saying that. Yeah.

1:02:39Watching these people today, it's like you're the orcs are fighting against the Hobbit. It's like this is crazy. Very real. It's so opposed. It's like so polarized. And again, if I was from another country and I was trying to ruin America and I was like how could I do this? That's how I do it. I would do it this way. And then I would do it through social media and I would have the Democrats almost universally control social media. I'm gonna say do. Except this one wild African American. This one wild genius dude decides to buy Twitter. And then amazing. And amazing. If he didn't do that, we would genuinely be fucked.

1:03:14Totally. We would be real pickle. Honestly, Twitter or X now is really where I get like all my news. Like I don't even resort to a lot of the mainstream media places, at least for breaking news. Like I'll find it on X. So God bless Elon Musk. I really think that he has almost single -handedly. There's been, there's been I would say some pivotal people or groups in this culture who have really helped turn some things around. I think the Babylon B has done a phenomenal job of - But they were banned from Twitter. Yeah. And that was one of the breaking points for Elon. Exactly. When he found out they were banned from Twitter, he's like, okay, what the fuck?

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1:06:42No. If you're Elon Musk, you can do it. But there's like maybe five of those guys on Earth that could just buy something for $44 billion. That's crazy. That's really probably worth half that. Right. So you could never justify it on paper. No. So he's an insane person. And who's dedicated to free speech just happens to have $200 billion dollars. So he can step in and do that. And when they tell them about advertising, that was one of my favorite speeches ever. Who is like, go fuck yourself. Isn't that awesome? It was amazing. It was perfect. If you're going to blackmail me with money, you're going to do that, go fuck yourself.

1:07:19It's amazing. It's that. It's hilarious. But honestly, that right there is what this nation, again, really this world is lacking, is strong leadership. Strong male leadership in particular. We don't see a lot of these men, right? We picture men as these dominant, aggressive, assertive leaders who protect and provide. Our nation is failing because we don't have those male leaders. We don't have people who have backbones and a moral compass. But Elon Musk has the perfect combination of a backbone and a moral compass, which is sad when you think about it. Also, he's smarter than everybody. He's rich.

1:08:04And he sees where all this is going. He's like, you people are out of your fucking minds. Like, what are you doing? Exactly. So he literally has to step in and buy a social media platform. And then upon doing so, they release all these emails to these journalists, like Michael Schellenberger, Matt Taiibi, and you find out through all this that they've been in contact with the FBI. And the FBI has been telling them to delete accounts and get rid of posts and... My count was deleted prior, I guess prior to the Elon Musk era. What did you write that was the big offense? There are two sexes. I know it got for a bit, right?

1:08:41Isn't that amazing? Put me in jail. A biological truth. Can I get a review? Can we go to a textbook, please? Yeah. How many sexes does it say? In the textbook. I think it says two. Does that say two? It says two sexes, male and female. So I was right. Let's ban the book, too. What is that? No, yeah. So... But I was able to make a new account under Elon Musk's Twitter. Yeah, luckily. And it's the only platform that I found where I don't get my videos or posts removed. Yeah, of course. TikTok. Right? I was hesitant for TikTok for a long time, for a lot of reasons. We hear that the Chinese are spying on us.

1:09:21I'm going to take our information and blah, blah, blah. So I didn't want to post on TikTok for a long time. But I had a profile. I'd sometimes view videos, again, never really posting. And then one day I go to my profile and I have 20 ,000 followers having never posted. I'm like, this is crazy. Clearly there's an audience here on TikTok. And it's unique because it's a younger audience, which has been a big push of mine is to target younger people, people my age, to really engage them and help them see what's going on. So I was like, maybe I will start posting a TikTok. My videos went viral. And every single video is deleted now.

1:10:04But I have almost, I think, 400 ,000 followers having only posted a couple of times. It's crazy. And so they'll delete you if you talk about gender issues. Anything. I could report like a factual, real story that had happened saying nothing outlandish, nothing. And it's deleted. Now again, let's go back to my theory that someone's trying to destroy the country. If I was the Chinese government and I was in control of a social media platform that's the most addictive and the most used by young kids, I would have as much confusion on there as possible. And I would have as much men with beards and lipsticks and long nails telling you that all your kids are going to be trans and have that shit everywhere.

1:10:48And never take it down. And anyone who combats this, anyone that starts making sense and resonates with people, get them out of here. Just get them the fuck out of here. This is a propaganda machine. And they're laughing the whole time. And it is owned by China. And it is some of the most fucking troublesome spyware that they've ever examined. When guys have back engineered the Twitter code, the fucking coder guys have gone over that. They were like, oh my god, this isn't crazy. This is the most invasive we have ever seen. It has access to your keystrokes. So like say if you're using TikTok and then you're also like sending emails, it's going to know what your emails are.

1:11:27It's going to be able to listen to your voice. It's going to be able to videotape you. It's going to have access to all sorts of aspects of your phone. Not necessarily saying it's going to use those things. But it's going to have the access to it. All that's in there. Now imagine a scenario where China attacks Taiwan. China attacks Taiwan and all of a sudden we're in this weird proxy hot war with China as well as a weird proxy hot war with Russia. And then China starts fucking with the phones. All these people that have TikTok on their phones. How many accounts are there? How many different people can they target that have children and then these people are high level political people?

1:12:07How many people that are in board meetings? How many people that are coming home on their phone having conversations in private with their wife about the real problems that we have right now with corruption and the Biden laptop is real? That kind of shit. They're going to have all those recordings. They're going to literally be able to listen to anybody they want. They've paid people what they've done is really fascinating. They've gotten high speed internet routers and cell phone routers and they sell them cheaper. And so people buy them. And they've already found that some of these have third party accessibility.

1:12:45And they're putting them near like nuclear facilities. The Chinese people like like we'll sell you these cell phone towers cheaper and just put them over there where you fucking test jets. And we're like wow, it saves the money. What a great idea. And so we buy all their shit and their infrastructure is everywhere. They own farmland everywhere all over the country. And they own a lot of farmland land that's around military bases. Right. Is this you saying I should delete TikTok? I'm saying I'm putting my fucking tinfoil on. I think it's like we were like no they would never do that. If you think about all the times in history that governments have overthrown other countries, that have invaded other countries.

1:13:28And they've done it with the only methods that were available then. The only methods were available then. You need tanks and guns and planes and weapons and bombs and shit or both. Not anymore. Not anymore. You need fucking cyber stuff. And with that you could literally destroy the way the morals and the ethics of an entire generation of people. Cast aside any ideas. They're trying to do things now where they're talking about minor attracted persons. Crazy. And you're seeing elected politicians, elected officials talking about being very clear that this is an identity. That these are minor attracted persons.

1:14:06It's sick. It's really that right. You have people talking about pedophiles being maps they'll call them. Whether it's this video recently that Libs Tiktok posted of these children and I think Oklahoma may be sucking on toes. Did you see that? Yeah. Of teachers or adults or whoever these people are sick. Is that what it was? Yes, it was a fundraiser. With the the children sucked on the toes of the adults. No car wash. Sucking toes was going to be their fundraiser. It's definitely adults. Yeah. Definitely adults. Or whether it's now you have these men, the CDC that says men can produce breast milk and lactate.

1:14:50I got news for you. Any man, any man who forces a baby to latch on to his nipple and suck it is using that baby as an erotic prop. And right, they do this under the guise of human rights. It is not a human right for anyone to sexually abuse a child. So all of that to say there's this big push. So it seems whether it's the gender ideology movement. There's this big push to seemingly normalize pedophilia. Which is grotesque. It is perverse. It's disgusting. Parents who are okay with this. Democrats who are okay with this. Who vote in favor of a lot of this nonsense stuff. You're a sell out to your own child.

1:15:38And honestly, I think there's a separate conversation that needs to be had. If you are an elected official voting in favor of this stuff with kids. I think there's a separate conversation that needs to be had involving CPS. Because again, that's disgusting to say the least. And it's always been morally reprehensible. It's always been a thing that we wanted to kill before. And now all of a sudden we're saying that it's an identity. Again, if I was trying to destroy a country, I would throw that into the educational system. And I'd make it seem virtuous to discuss this in an open -minded and objective way.

1:16:11Like they can't help who they identify with. Well, and honestly, right, like, again, being a Christian, the Bible tells us that we will reach a point. And Paul says it in Acts and Romans in different places. He tells us that we will reach a point where bitter is seen as sweet, dark is seen as light, and evil is seen as moral. It's undeniable that that's not what we're seeing now. And look, that's not to say that people who identify as trans are evil. I don't necessarily think that. But what is evil is deception. Manipulation is evil. Temptation is evil. Lying and affirming delusions. That's evil.

1:16:54And that's exactly how Satan works and how he operates is in the darkness. But now a lot of it is coming to light. Again, thanks to people like Elon Musk. It sounds loony when we start having these kind of conversations about like Satan and evil and good and, you know, and biblical stories. But I, as more as time goes on, I think that what the Bible is, is I think, at one point in time, there was a very sophisticated society that got wiped out by some sort of a massive natural disaster. And then over time, they told the stories that they had learned since they stopped writing things down. And they probably had to live like barbarians for thousands of years.

1:17:36But they always had the stories. Like literally the big bang in the beginning there was light. If you told that for thousands of years, that's what that would be. Right. The Adam and even the garden, the creation that someone created this. Like that they were trying to tell us and that men can go down evil wicked ways. And it can lead to destruction. And these are some of the symptoms that you'll see when it leads to destruction. It's like this is like a map of civilization. Right. It's just so old and it's been translated so many times from ancient Hebrew and Aramaic and all these different languages down to Greek and Latin and English finally.

1:18:14It's like there's so much like what was really said? What was really going on? Because a lot of it seems too on the money. Like if we wanted to try to put this through some sort of a logical filter or figure out like is someone really trying to warn us about the natural progression that all societies and all civilizations go down if you don't have a moral compass. And if you don't follow in adhere to the rules of God. Well, there's still stuff that hasn't yet. Right. Like what has been prophesied that hasn't yet happened. So time will tell, right? I think Jesus's his return is past due. Like Dr.

1:18:57Manhattan. Yeah. If that would be the wildest forget about UFOs. UFOs would be pretty wild. UFOs in the White House lawn would be wild. Jesus in the White House lawn. Wow. That would be the game changer. I pray for that. But God, people didn't even believe it. They would think, oh my God, this is luminaughty. Our media would spin it so. Well, our fucking just people on Reddit. Like the people that are like what a full -chain people. What a platform. What a platform. Oh my gosh, I have seen some of the craziest stuff on Reddit. And I don't have a Reddit account. That's not my space. But you go in and look at things sometimes.

1:19:37But people will post like other Reddit clips. And I speak a lot on these on college campuses. Again, with the intention of really trying to garner support from the youth, but also encouraging them to find their own voice and to be bold and to be leaders themselves. All done through the leadership institute, which is just a phenomenal group. But a lot of these college campuses, I speak on the protesters when they hear I'm coming. They'll go to Reddit and they'll start going off, which is hilarious to look at. But honestly, it's kind of scary. Like a lot of these people, for instance, I was at San Francisco State a few months back.

1:20:25Which was my first mistake going to freaking San Francisco. But I went there with the intention of right, like talking about what you and I have talked about. At least from that national championship standpoint, everything that we went through, why it's important. I went there and what a naive thought to think that these people, these students would come with an open mind and the willingness to have their hearts soften, because they did not. They came with their pitchforks and fire. And upon me delivering my speech in a classroom setting, right? So like a podium at the front, there's seats in the class.

1:21:04Upon delivering my speech afterwards, a group of protesters entered into the room, hundreds of them. Okay, turned off the lights. Rush to the front. I'm being like shoved and hit and jostled. I'm like so confused what's going on. Punched right, but fortunately for me, men and dresses, their punches don't hurt that bad. But ultimately, these protesters ended up holding me through for ransom. Throughout the night, demanding that if I wanted to make it home to see my family safely again, I had to pay them money. All the while, you might be wondering, okay, well where are the police? Joe at San Francisco, the police are being held for ransom in the same room with me.

1:21:47I'm looking at the police like pretty sure I'm being held against my will. Pretty sure we call that kidnapping. Isn't there something you can do to like alleviate what's going on here to deescalate and get me home safely?

1:22:07No, actually, we can't. We're not allowed to be seen as anything other than an ally to that community. The same community who's on the other side of that door calling them racist pigs for protecting a white girl like me. Say that again, they're not allowed to be seen as anything other than an ally. This is like a mandate from the police department. So anything that involves anyone who's trans, you have to automatically support regardless of whether or not that person is the aggressor. Let me tell you, even... Is that fair to say that? Well, that's what was communicated to me, even now, where there is an ample amount of video footage of this happening.

1:22:48There is audio evidence, there are eyewitness testimonies. Again, the police were in the room with me. There's footage that I requested that they never sent me, whether it was CCTV footage or their body cam footage. There's an ample amount of evidence to charge whoever is responsible, whether it's the students, whether it's the university, whether it's honestly the police department at this point. They have come back now and said that the charges are alleged. There's nothing they can do. There's no evidence to prosecute or press charges against anyone. I'm looking at this. Keep in mind, right?

1:23:21The Dean of Students shows up when I'm being held in this room for hours and hours, four hours through the middle of the night in this room. The Dean of Students shows up. He's negotiating with the students how much I owe each of them to get out. The price that I had heard was agreed upon through the side of the door was $10 each, which I'm mad about. Because I think I'm worth more than $10. They all went $10. Granite, there's a lot of them. Oh my God, you know, but how funny is that? Give us all $10. We're hungry. We'll leave. We want to go get subway. But anyways, the university the next day, sent out a university wide email to their, I mean, you know, I mean staff, professors, students, everybody, and said, we are so proud of our brave students for handling Riley Gaines in the manner that they did.

1:24:11We know how deeply traumatic her presence is on this campus. And so here are some counseling resources for you guys. Oh my God. You know, just know we see you. We stand with you. We see here. Or we see you. We hear you. We love you again. No, we're in there. They condemn violence against women for that matter. No, we're in there. Did they say we uphold our first amendment and the freedom of speech? No, of course not. You're right to civil discourse. No, forget it. So. It's so crazy. And that's just the San Francisco's fallen. Oh, beyond. I was in San Francisco. I mean, that's, that's really like again, if I was going to ruin a country, that's how I would do it.

1:24:53I would tell the children, everyone's amazing. And that assault you did, that was warranted. And I know how deeply traumatic that must have been for you. So here's some counseling because you need counseling. You need to be able to talk about it. So further fuel your narcissism and get involved with someone who constantly wants to talk about you all day. Here's some counseling. Let's talk about you. Great. I really need to focus on me. And then more about you and our amazing you are. You hit this lady who said that men shouldn't be able to compete with women. Fucking duh. Yeah. And then there's nothing that can be done about it.

1:25:25Nothing, zero. So which is why it's hard like for us. And when I say us, I really just mean sane people. I'm not making this conservative versus, you know, Republican versus Democrat type thing. It makes it harder for us in this space to push back when we have district courts or our department of justice. That really is corrupt. It's incredibly too tiered. Yeah. Dispanney wills thing is awesome though. Yeah, right. I love it. Isn't it just fun watching her get sassy? Let's help him. And that's so telling right when she starts freaking out and yelling. And it's like, baby, if you just wanted to be this or to have this guy be your like booty call or vice versa.

1:26:14Yeah, you're not supposed to hire him. What the fuck? No. I'm obvious is that also you can't say that you fucking paid for everything in cash. Like, why? Imagine that like this. What will say? Right. This time again, I'm going to get him right. Yeah, that'll work. I'm going to tell him I paid it all in cash. Sorry. No records. All in cash. Where'd you get the cash? I had cash. I just get the fucking cash. You got $50 ,000 later on. That's good. Who does that? But they do that because they know there's a chance of it working. Not really. Well, I think she thought the system is more rigged than it is because I think most people have never been exposed to national attention.

1:26:54No, you can speak to this. Exactly. They have no idea what the pressure like that you've experienced. Right. Like you've experienced some at a young age of as a person who had no desire to be famous other than be a great athlete. Out of nowhere, you get hit with this barrage of attention where you're on Fox News and this and that, newspapers and some people are labeling you in the horrible, most horrible way. And some people were proud that she's standing up for women in sports and you got this conflict and you're in the fucking center of it. And you got crazy people who rush the stage and hit you.

1:27:26And the cops say we can't do anything that doesn't show us as an ally to that community. Like that's not even America. Like where are that's Lala land. They're living in the Willy Wonka chocolate factory. Those people are out of their fucking minds. The Willy Wonka chocolate factory sounds better. That sounds way better. But they're literally out of their minds. Like and this is unsustainable. It is. At some point in time. And we realize that because honestly truth and sanity, they always prevail. Yeah. It's just kind of a matter of time. Unfortunately, it takes unfortunate circumstances like the Holy Atomis thing.

1:28:00Like the San Francisco state thing. Like the things that continue to happen. It takes those to really see the harm and the severity and the likelihood that they continue at an exponential rate. So again, I kind of look at what's going on or in particular what happened to me as a lemon saliminate thing. You take something that should have never happened to anyone. But you do go with it. And that's certainly what I've been trying to do over these past again two years. And it has. There's been a lot of good stuff that's been done. We see a lot of the negative. We see a lot of the bad. And certainly that's what's highlighted because that's what that's what gets attention.

1:28:44That's what gets clicks. That's what gets likes. But now in just two short years, 24 states have some sort of fairness. A moment sports bill. One only I think three years ago, only one state did. So that's pretty incredible. Lots of traction, lots of momentum. Like I said, four states implementing a bill now that defines the word woman. We've seen lots of pushback at the IOC, the International Olympic Committee. So there's been lots of good things that have been done. And I certainly choose to celebrate the little ones when we get them. Well, what you've done is very courageous because I know the kind of pressure that you must have experienced.

1:29:24I know the hate that's come your way. And you handle it with class. And that is not a learned thing. And I think that speaks to one of the things that I think is like one of the most important things that kids can ever get involved in in that sports. Definitely. I know people think of sports as being like if you're an intellectual, you think it was being like a jock or a meathead thing. But it teaches you a resolve. It teaches you when you have to swim six hours a day. Like you have to be strong. And it transcends beyond just your athletic achievement. Which is my point is how you can handle this the way you can handle it.

1:30:02And honestly now like I love pressure. I love it. I love setting goals and achieving those goals, which sets me up perfectly for this position. And you're right. Like I would highly encourage my parents did it. My parents made me play sports. And when my dad being a professional football player, he did not. I won't say he didn't. He never really cared what sport I played. But when I started swimming he's like, Riley come on that's not sport. I'm like dad it is the sport. Like it's hard. Like we work hard. He's like no rather that's not sport. Then I started dating a swimmer and my dad was like Riley.

1:30:43Any sport his justification was any sport where a man has to wear panties and competes. Like they're gay Riley. He's like you're dating someone who's gay. I'm like dad and now he's my husband. And now of course he knows he's not gay and he's the best. But it's just but that's funny. It sounds funny. Yeah. He's I had to refrain him from going in the locker room at that national championships. I called him like dad. There's a man in our locker room because we didn't know this was going to be their arrangement until we saw it until like we were actually in there with this again six foot four man stripping down fully intact exposing himself inches away from where we were simultaneously fully undressed right like.

1:31:24I can't even put into words like the feeling of having your back turned and all of a sudden like again naked hearing a man's voice in locker room. It's like it was a Nate inherent for every girl in that changing space to cover themselves like whether it was with their hands or their towels or their clothes like it was inherent. Um that's so psychotic. So I called my dad and like dad there's a man in this locker room. He's like Riley. I'm coming down there and I'm going to handle this myself. And I really was like dad like like he would like he would do that. And I'm like no we already have one man locker room.

1:32:00We don't need to. And secondly like you'll go to jail and I don't want you there. So I got this I can handle it which again the things that I think set me apart from some of my teammates or competitors or other people in my same position. Um is right playing sports. I credit so much of my success and impact that's been had to playing sports. Secondly it's having a strong family foundation. I have two parents to amazing parents who love each other. Um everyone around me like my grandparents. Um all in very healthy loving relationships. I don't have a lot of divorce around me or in my family or anything like that.

1:32:40I have got lots of siblings. We're all so close. So I think my family foundation is a huge aspect to. Um again what kind of set me apart. And third again is my faith. Um just knowing the outcome like we've. We just previously spoke about like knowing how this all ends and really trusting that and having faith in that and. It just knowing the battle is already one. That's certainly what keeps me grounded and keeps you know a smile on my face and an incredibly light heart. Even when these crazy freaks at San Francisco are like. Like running at me the first thing I do is pray for them. I'm like oh my gosh you look miserable and I can't imagine having that much hatred in my heart.

1:33:24So I think all of those things. Um are kind of what maybe. Made me a little different the combination of those things. No one thing over the other but. Set me apart from some of my peers either right woman for the job when it came along. That's what it is. It's really like the universe put you in that position because most people wouldn't be. As uniquely disciplined about chasing this down as you are. And it's a big task like there's always something. There's always some story. There's always someone you die actually I know you're similar right where like. The messages I get daily. From parents from coaches from young female athletes.

1:34:08Who this is happening to who they don't know what to do. Yeah. I should talk to the girl. I don't know if you saw this video. It was the basketball game in Massachusetts recently where you've got this like. Yeah I did see six foot something guy who injured three girls before half time. Of this game causing the team to have to for because they didn't have enough players left. To play the game. Talking with this team and this girl like she's 13 years old and she's getting pummeled to the ground by this guy. And she's online reading the comments and stuff and which I never advise. But she is and there's people calling you know this girl was saying that she's being a baby and she's fine and she reads that and it's.

1:34:52It's really hard for her. Guarantee those people don't play sports. Of course not right. They're just nuts. You know what clip I loved. It was of on this show talking about Keith Olberman. That guy's the gift that keeps giving. He's the gift that keeps giving and he is the Babylon B version of a Democrat. He really is. It's I want to know if he's still crying urine. Did you see all that? What was going on with him? This episode is brought to you by Netflix. In Netflix new series zero day, the country is devastated by a catastrophic cyber attack that downs a mayor. America's infrastructure a respected former president played by Robert De Niro is called out of retirement to find the perpetrators of the cyber attack only to discover.

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1:36:21I'm so confused. It's crazy to say that's fascist too. But I saw this clip on your show where you were you were highlighting. You know how he came for me. Yeah. And I'm like, dude, who are you? I don't even know who you are. You say anything. And I'm, I'm, yeah, that's hilarious, right? Being I very proudly finished my career as a 12 time all American five time SEC champion. The SEC record holder, the fastest person ever come out of the SEC in the 200 Butterfly, making me one of the fastest Americans of all time. SEC scholar athlete of the year, SEC community service leader of the year. Like, I mean, I could keep going on.

1:36:58And it's like this, you know, old man wants to attack me. He still lives with his mom and his, and her basement. I asked my dad, I'm like, who is this guy? I don't even know who he is. I think he has his own place, but he's definitely insane. Yeah, you know, but he's insane in a very unique way. He used to be a really good baseball broadcaster. You know, he was, yeah, my dad, real baseball. He loved him, but then he got, he got really nutty during the Trump administration. And that trumped the arrangement syndrome. That's a real thing. It's a real thing. And I think there's some people that are fragile already.

1:37:31The world is just like the anxiety in this and that. And also this position of being the person of virtue, the angry, loud voice of reason. That's a weird banner to carry when you don't have your own shit together. When your own life is chaos, your, your, your fucking mental health is very unsteady. And you're out there preaching and telling people what to do. And as you start losing and, and Trump's the president now. And you're like, he's gonna get arrested. He's gonna get arrested. And he never gets arrested. And then he's, they're gonna take him off the ballot. Take him off the ballot. He's an insurrectionist.

1:38:01Nope. Supreme Court says unanimously. No. It's like it's just like you further compounds it and you never get a win. You never get a win. You get a little bit of a win when Biden won and then the chaos after the Biden administration and all the things that we knew were true that he was mentally comparable. All those things come not to be. And that's not a win. So then you're just in this constant state of like anxiety and chaos and saying nonsense things. Like almost like you would want you to come after him. Because you could, you came after him so hard it was so funny. When you show it like all your medals and all your shalee, the fuck are you talking about stupid?

1:38:33And my motto is like, truly, like, and I feel like I for the most part pretty much live by this. Like, don't punch down. Like don't give someone attention when that's clearly what they're vying for is attention. But I literally could not resist myself when it came to him. And it was so tragic because I'm showing them like all the accolades and stuff. And as I picked one of them up, it's a glass trophy. I drop it and I broke it. But let me tell you it was so cool because the SEC saw this video that I had made and dropping one of my like all SEC first team honors. And they sent me a new one and they're like, we're so sorry that you had to waste your time and break a trophy over Keith Olverman.

1:39:15We wanted to send you a new one. Good for them. Totally. Good for them. That's funny though. Even the way you handle it when you dropped it. Like whatever. I've got more of them. Who cares Keith Olverman? I don't care about this trophy. I don't want this trophy. The people like him are really fascinating because it's the social media. Interaction. It compounds mental illness in a way that I have never seen in my life with anything. There's nothing like it. It is a zombie apocalypse. It's weird. There's so many people that are just like deeply involved in social media interaction all day long. And look, social media of course is a blessing.

1:39:56I would argue it's a bigger curse than it is a blessing. And you're right. We see people like on my ex -feed who are on their posting all day long. I'm like, what do you do? Do you have a family? Do you have a life? Like do you work? Like I'm so confused how you have time all day long every hour of every day to be posting something. That's their life. It is their life. There's a lot of people like that that is their life. And they sort of accumulate these bubbles of people that they communicate with. Right. They stay in these echo chambers and they exist there. Forever and they don't go outside and they wonder whether they're depressed.

1:40:32It's so true. It is so true. It is. It's what it is. Yeah. Human bodies I firmly believe have a physical requirement. And if you don't meet that physical requirement, you've got enough sleep. You've got to drink enough water. You've got to exercise. You have to. If you don't. And you're right to people. You feel it shit. Aren't doing these things. Right. Yeah. You're on Twitter all day. And they're just like, it's compounding their mental illness. They're probably already medicated. Definitely. And then here they are just getting after it with strangers, getting fuck you. It's your Hitler. Are you fucking Nazi?

1:41:03It's like, it's so wild to see. And it's all getting accentuated by algorithms specifically to try to extend your engagement and keep you hooked. And then when you see something like TikTok that will not let opposing viewpoints, even viewpoints that are you question, even if you question the narrative. Let me move off. You go to China. Their TikTok is all about scientific achievements, athletic achievements, martial arts. It's all about positive role models, exercise routines. It's all like super. And you can't be on after 10 p .m. Go to sleep. Go to sleep. Crazy. Get ready for war. Yeah. No, they're laughing at us.

1:41:42Oh, 100%. I'm laughing at us. How are they not laughing at us? Totally. When I see Rachel Levine standing in front of everybody and give advice on health. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? It's so true. Right? Not only the fact that this is someone who is injecting themselves with foreign and unnatural hormones and substances. Rachel Levine is obese. I'm like, why are you our assistant secretary of health or whatever the name is when you're quite literally overweight? Yeah. Like, are you sure I should be listening to you on anything? Well, the administration, they've stuffed some of these like very questionable people that happen to be non -binary or trans or whatever.

1:42:21All of these roles. Just for optics. That's what they did with that Sam Brinton guy. The guy that was stealing women's clothes. That's looking good. The killer. He had some job with nuclear waste disposal or something. Like, he looks like a doctor, a Manhattan character. Totally. He literally looked, like, you look at him with his shaved head and his lips. It looks like a bad guy in a superhero movie. Totally. Yeah. No. No, he's stealing women's clothes. And you're right. They've sprinkled that throughout. Yeah. And all of the different departments and realms and here we are suffering the consequences.

1:42:53It's so bizarre because, again, in other wars, you had to use weapons. That's the way to do it. They had espionage. They definitely did steal information and find out strategies and tactics. But, that like today, like where you can literally infiltrate a whole section of the country and have them believe that they have to adhere. If you're going to be left, if you're going to be on the side of the good people that want a social safety net and they want welfare and free education, if you're going to be on that side, you also have to be on the side where a pervert doesn't exist anymore. There's no more sex offenders.

1:43:30There's no more pedophiles. There's minor attracted people and trans men and gender dysphoria is just problematic and transphobic. And what it really is is just your identity. And there's a spectrum of genders. And if you don't use Zezer, we're going to put you in a cage. Crazy. But it's not true. But this is... It's reality. But this is 2024. This didn't exist in 2004. No. What does 2044 look like? And that's honestly what we should be asking ourselves. I think too often we get kind of wrapped up in like the here and the now. And ultimately, that's how we've gotten to this point, right? You give an inch to take a mile type thing.

1:44:07And we don't see the harm in it at the time. But yeah, we should be looking ahead 20 plus years. 10 to 5 years at this matter. Things are so expedited. We should be looking at 5 years. And again, if we're willing to deny man and woman, what's the next thing they're going to ask us to deny? And it sounds crazy. But like age. We've seen some people who identify as trans age out of Canada in different places, even some here in the states who write this story of this like 55 year old, some man, competing with the 1314 girls. Yeah, he identifies as a 15 year old girl, which sounds crazy. And change in the locker room with them.

1:44:47It sounds crazy, but that denying age is the exact same premise as denying sex. You can't deny race yet. No, not yet. That's the line. Not yet. But some people have tried it with Korean. Yeah. And that one dude, he said that he was trans -racial. He believes he's Korean. So he got his face like operated on. So he'd look with more Korean like features. He's come around now. And not anymore. Yeah. Well, I don't know the status of like surgical procedures, but I think he has a book out now that talks about kind of like how he was totally enthralled in like K -pop and all the stuff and really believed to be a part of this.

1:45:24But now is like, and like all the the the woke gender ideology stuff. And now he's totally like, whoa, what did I do? Now he's going to go to CPAC. That's what he's doing there. That would be a good move for a guy like that strategically for a career. You want more attention? Just go hard right. All the way. No looking back. I want to be a man again. It says. Oh, his D -transitioning journey. Yeah, but it says I want to be a man again. Was he ever a woman? Yeah, I don't know what the title was. This is just like the beginning of the thing. Yeah, there's always been crazy people folks. And when you give crazy people the opposite.

1:46:04The opportunity to be protected under the walled garden of the LGBTQTAI plus. You're you're you're inviting crazy people to infiltrate your organization, which will fuck up any legitimate concerns that people have of letting people live, whatever the way they want to live. The way I look at this and the way I look at all things is I don't ever want to tell people what to do. I don't want to tell anyone to. But I'm always very concerned when people do want to tell people what to do. Because I know what that thought process. Yeah, it sets off alarms. Yeah. It's like I don't want to control people.

1:46:41Why are you trying to control people? Right. What is your thing about? Some people like to control people. It's a natural inclination that human beings have had since the beginning of time. They do it through gossip and rumor and try to destroy people's character. Right. They do it through subterfuge and sabotage and espionage. Because they want fucking power. Of course. It's normal and natural. And if you just operate on that principle, always look at the people that are trying to restrict your rights. And why are they doing that? Why are they doing that? Because people do that. That's a thing people, you might not do that because you're a good person.

1:47:18Right. Maybe just a normal person wants to just live a normal life and play golf on the weekends and have a family and be normal. There's people out there that's not their game. That's not their game. Their game is a different game. And you've got to be able to see that. And if you can't see that, you're just going to go along with it because you're a good person. And you will life offending, affirming, saving, gender, affirming, care. Or you just say the words. They don't even mean anything to you. You're just saying what everybody in your cult says. Totally. And I could not agree more. Write these people who say, you know, you're transphobic or you're anti -trans.

1:47:52First of all, that doesn't hurt my feelings. I don't really care if someone says that about me. But second of all, look, my stance isn't anti -trans. Just like you said, what someone else does behind closed doors? What Lea Thomas does behind closed doors? No, I don't support it. No, I don't agree with it. But live your life. Just like I'm going to live my life. Like you said, I don't want someone telling me how to live. So no, I don't agree or support. But do as you do. It shouldn't cost my taxpayer dollars. It shouldn't affect my rights. But if it doesn't, by all means. So really, the stance that I'm taking, that I feel like majority of Americans have taken, is advocating for transparency more than anything.

1:48:38Right? Like if something is advertised for women, boom, it's for women. That's not to say you can't have a co -ed. But it's only women that are getting harmed by this. It's only women. The whole thing. And it was always to protect women until women became less oppressed than someone else. So that is trans women. That's what they did. It was the Depression Olympics. It really is. There was the regional college track and field meet where a male runner competing on the women's team at Rochester Institute of Technology, RIT, in New York. This past week competed, broke the regional meet record, of course.

1:49:19The girl who got second was an African -American female. Let's call this what this is. This is a white man standing atop the podium, left crickets. Nothing. Nothing. So I think a Depression Olympics is actually a great way to put it. The really what it is because no matter who you are, trans trumps that. It's the ace. It's the top. It's the top. And if you're a black trans man, or I guess what I'm saying, what they would call, I guess a black trans identifying male. You're the king. Black trans woman or black trans man. See, it's a male. So you buy a black woman, but I don't like saying all that.

1:49:58Oh, okay. Right, right. So trans. A trans identifying male who's black, who's a man who identifies as a woman. You win. You are the winner. You are the most oppressed, which ought to odd worlds we live in to where you want to be a victim. You want to be marginalized. You want to be an oppressed because what's the alternative? An oppressor. And we have learned as a society that there is nothing worse than being an oppressor. Right. So you'll do anything and not to dilute what it means to be trans or people who genuinely struggle with gender dysphoria. Not to dilute this, but people would much rather be oppressed than be an oppressor.

1:50:39And the white man has always been the oppressor or not anymore. They found a way to really curb that. To say you're a woman. Grouch your hair. Put some lipstick on. And you can dominate women. And you can get into women's prisons. That's a big push we've seen. 47 biological males are in California prisons right now. Crazy. You know how many went into it? You know how many to your point? How many women went into men's prisons in California? How many? One. She had three months left of first sentence. So no time. But yeah, we've seen in New Jersey, Ohio, California, Kansas, New York, and New York they have posted placards in all women's prisons talking about pregnancy prevention.

1:51:22And you know what they did in California prisons? Over Super Bowl on Super Bowl Sunday where everyone's distracted. Right. Like no one's paying attention. They had supervisors come in working overtime to implement in women's facilities. Women's prisons. Condom, dispensers, and dental dams. So not only look, look sex in prisons is not allowed. It's not. I mean, you're not allowed to do that or not supposed to do that anyways. But by putting condoms in all women's facilities. Not only are you essentially allowing it, it's as if you're encouraging it. Yeah. Crazy. It's not, but it means how many pregnancies did they have before they had to do that?

1:52:07How many instances of STDs did they have before they had to do that? And that's a thing I've seen in California prisons. Now we're AIDS and HIV is running rampant in women's prisons. I know it. That's crazy. But again, to your point, like even the whole language thing we talked about, like we don't see men's language being infiltrated and taken over like a couple of years ago. We have this attack on the word woman or the word female. There was just a bill in California again last week where it would replace female in all state statute with the word person. We're not seeing that go the other way.

1:52:44I think for a couple of reasons. First and foremost, men wouldn't put up with it for a second. Could you imagine, right, like women are now called cervix avarice or uterus owners or menstruators or bleeders or chest feeders or burthing person. Could you imagine the equivalent, right, to to egg producer? If we started calling men sperm producers or we started calling men erection havers. Could you imagine the outrage from men, but it shows you too like the minute men felt threatened with the whole Bud Light thing. Bud Light essentially lost 27 billion dollars overnight. But their next commercial, which shows you how money moves a lot of this stuff, their next commercial was a big burly man on a motorcycle with the camel can.

1:53:34Like they're not following red or blue. They're following green. But it shows you too, like we talk a lot especially in this space that I've kind of been involved in of the physical differences between men and women. But I think how the whole language seen, how I portray it is we see the innate characteristic differences between men and women. Because the same assertive dominant men who have always and will always be men are the same men claiming to be women demanding the language that we use. And the same apologetic, emotionally driven empathetic women who have been and will always be women when they enter into a man's space.

1:54:16They're not demanding anything because again, they're the same women they always have been and it shows the differences that we possess within our characteristics almost innately. Without a doubt. And it's such an important point to point out because this is the problem that a lot of feminists are having where these biological males are calling themselves women and entering into these women spaces and then dominating the way men dominate things and behaving the way men behave. Of course. And it's unfortunately a lot of it is supported by a lot of these older liberal women, which is really strange.

1:54:51We, um, they can't see like this is you. This is your group. I am for being virtuous for the sake of like signaling to the tribe that you're willing to be a fucking loon and buy into this where it makes no sense whatsoever. It's a it's a tribal thing. It's a cult thing. I testified before Congress last month or whenever it was, um, about the importance of, or I guess really urging the Biden administration to halt with their illegal administrative rewrite of title line. I've testified before Congress in the Senate many times and so which it's unfathomable to me that a 23 year old recent college graduate college swimmer at that has to go to DC to sit in front of our members of Congress again.

1:55:39The beating heart of the American Republic and explain to them that many women are different and then to be on the other side of that table and watches they have the super confused looks on their faces. And so I'm there testifying, uh, one of the Democrat witnesses. Um, I forget her name, but she was the president of the National Women's Law Center and her testimony she says that women should just learn how to lose more gracefully. I'm like, did you really just say that and you are the president of the National Women's Law Center? What a disgrace you are. What a crazy thing. And it was it was hilarious because, um, representative Lee, a Democrat from Pennsylvania.

1:56:21She was the ranking member, a supposed to be, I believe Katie Porter who didn't show up. But anyways, ranking member Lee. She starts reading her opening monologue. The first words that come out of her mouth. And she says, I can't believe that I'm forced to sit here and listen to this transphobic bigotry. And really I felt so sad when I heard that because again, a sitting member of Congress and she resorts to name calling not dissuading from my side with facts or logic or reasoning or common sense or science. What happened to follow the science, right? Name calling. And so it's my turn to read my testimony.

1:56:59And I, I read it. I finish it and I didn't even mean to say this, but it just kind of came out of my mouth. And I looked at her and I said, representative Lee. If my opening testimony makes me transphobic, then understand by your own logic, your opening monologue makes you a misogynist, which as you can imagine, sent the hearing into a tailspin. I don't think she has ever actually heard this word misogynist accurately used an assinence because about 60 seconds later after her staff ran over to her and showed her the definition about 60 seconds later, she raises her hand and she says, I want her words removed from the record on the grounds of engaging in personalities is what she said, which Marjorie Taylor green was in that hearing.

1:57:45And so she buzzes in and she says, I would call a man posing as a woman, someone who's engaging in personalities. And then it's like, then it's really easy. Like I'm like, oh gosh, what have I done? No, it's a Jerry Springer show. Totally. I'm like, oh gosh, people are about to start jumping over like tables. But anyways, let it be known congressional records still stands. There was no grounds to remove my words. She is, in fact, still listed as a misogynist. Her Wikipedia page even says it because someone sent it to me the other day, which I think is hilarious. But anyways, all that to show the hate when their own intersectional language is used against them.

1:58:19Am I thinking behind that right? Like if being, pro woman, because that's my stance, it's pro reality, pro fairness, pro truth, pro common sense, pro woman. If being pro woman is seen as anti trans, then wouldn't being seen as being pro trans inherently be anti woman. And what do we call someone who's anti woman? I'm a sergeant. We call them misogynists. Yeah. It's just, it's so strange. The language has been twisted so far that just saying what you were saying about protecting women sports. This person, their, their first response is to call it bigoted transphobia. It's so strange. Like if you don't agree with me, you're Hitler.

1:59:02It's that far off. It is. It is. The names I've been called write everything under the sun. Transphobic homophobic racist white supremacist domestic terrorist fascists. The list goes on. Which again, it makes those words lose their meaning. It does. Like being a racist is a terrible thing. But you're going to call me a racist for saying that women deserve equal opportunities. Not really sure how that equates. And when you say that, the word racist loses its its meaning. Yeah, it's just people playing a game. It's a lot of. They're just, they just find a target and they think they can go after it and they throw all their stupid.

1:59:38And there's a giant percentage of this country that's mentally ill and also unstable in the sense of how they view the future. They see what's going on in Gaza. They see what's going on in Ukraine. They see President Biden getting tripped by ghosts. And they're like, what the fuck are we doing? Like what is this? And they're all terrified. Right. And they're engaged in all this online nonsense all day long arguing with people and they think they're activists and they're blocking the highway for climate change. They're just like a giant swath of our populations out of their fucking minds. And I don't fault them.

2:00:15You're being raised through this coddling university system. You're being introduced as a young influential person to these preposterous Marxist ideas that have never worked anywhere that I always equate with rabies. It's like rabies kills like 99 % of the people imagine being someone who's like, yeah, but it's just like no one's figured out how to do rabies right. Like I'm going to do rabies right. That's a communism is it's ruined every single fucking country. It's ever been implemented. And we're like, yeah, but we got to do it right. But we can do it. It's the dumbest fucking idea of all time.

2:00:48But young people are easily suggestible or easily influenced. They don't they don't have life experiences. They don't have a especially if you've never engaged anything good, truly difficult. One thing I notice about like high level athletes in particular is that there there's no room for bullshit. There's no room for bullshit. If you're in the pool six hours a day, there's no room for bullshit. There's no room for your fake talk and nonsense. And this is what it is. And if I don't appreciate it for what it is that I'm losing time that I'm that I'm fucked and I'm behind like it's like there's a level of discipline that's involved.

2:01:23And it's one of the reasons why high level athletes make great leaders because they have the ability to discern what's real and what's not real because they've had to deal with it with themselves. Where's a lot of people just don't and so they just find other people online that can affirm their feelings and then they I developed a new neo pronoun and they're like, oh, you're amazing. I get fucking cattiers of the book on Twitch all day. We're like, this is the future. This is our future. It is. And I find that to be very true. There's a, I think an Ernst & Young study that showed I think 94 % of female executives.

2:02:00So C level executives. So like a CEO, CMO, whatever 94 % of those women were female athletes, which is to your point like yeah. It's because they understand leadership. They understand having a sense of self that's bigger than yourself. Like it's these people who haven't played sports or really haven't been involved in anything other than like their weird activism. Like they don't understand what being on a team and working together towards a goal, a tangible real goal is like. And that's why they're all selfish and narcissistic and entitled and little babies. But it's a much more difficult path and most people aren't going to be willing to do it.

2:02:42They're not going to have the willpower. They're not going to have the discipline. And they're not going to continue, especially when you think about like your athletic career and how many accomplishments you achieved and then kept going and kept going and kept going. It's a very different mindset, but it's a mindset that if you can acquire at a young age and it does come with sacrifice and it comes with you're going to miss a lot of stuff. If you can acquire that, it will be a superpower for the rest of your life. Of course. And there's people that appreciate that and there's people that don't understand that they're malnourished.

2:03:12They don't understand they're malnourished emotionally, physically, psychologically. They're malnourished. They haven't experienced enough truly difficult things like where they've had to power through and develop confidence and understand themselves to the point where they don't even know what that means. So they're just out there screaming out the window and the lady with the beanie on the street. She's my favorite. She's my favorite. That fucking meme comes up so often. I love that lady. You like it every time. I bet she's a Republican now. She's been red -filled. She's been red -filled. Yeah, she's been red -filled.

2:03:48She's been red -filled. She's been red -filled. She's been red -filled. Yeah, she's been red -filled. Yeah, she's been red -filled. Yeah, she's been red -filled. She's been red -filled. Yeah. But here we are. Yeah, at least we can talk about it. Find the fun. Find the fun. And I think there's more people that are listening now than ever before because there's outlets where you can actually have these conversations instead of being trapped in some fucking MSNBC bubble. And it's real now. Yeah, that's real. It's reality now. It's not just people saying things that sound like we were mentioning. I never want to sound like some big conspiracist or doomsday person who's preparing for the end of the world, right?

2:04:26But. But. But. But it's like the stuff that maybe like we've said five years ago, ten years ago, like we thought, oh, that will never happen. Right. We've arrived. Yeah, we've arrived. We're here. And I went off the train. I went off the roller coaster. But it's not that easy. And people are realizing that, like I said. So I think, do time. It's hard to experience something and not be aware that this is very unusual. And it's just normal life for us. It's like, God, life is so crazy. But yeah, but if you could look at this from an overhead perspective, if you had like a graph and showing what's happening in the world from 2004 to 2024, you'd be like, whoa.

2:05:11And I honestly think about that with myself. Like I was one of those people, right? Like again, always been Christian, always have aligned with conservative values. But I had my head down. I was focused on my success. More importantly, my team success. I was focused on my career. I was focused on my personal relationships, getting married at a young age in college. Like I was focused on not the cultural stuff going around the world. So I think to myself, like it is so unfortunate that I had to be directly impacted before I cared. But I did. Like I honestly did. And if all of us have that same mindset that unfortunately I had, like it's too late or screwed quite frankly, like that's why it's crucial that you find your voice.

2:06:02You speak up about stuff. You call out an injustice when you see it. You hold their feet to the fire. Yes. Before you're directly impacted. Because again, if we all wait just like I did. And I wonder to myself, like, obviously this is not the path I would be on if I hadn't spoken up about it at the time. But like what I, I shouldn't say what I care. I think I would always care. But like what I take action to do something about it. If it hadn't impacted me. Probably not. Like being real here. Like I know myself. I know. Again, I always would have seen it as wrong. And something that's harmful to society for sure.

2:06:39But not enough harm being done that I would feel compelled to speak about it. But it took me being impacted. So if it can be of encouragement to anyone else and why it's crucial that we do find our voices. And we do act boldly and courageously, which I hate to say. It even requires courage to say the things that you and I say. Like that shouldn't be courageous. That shouldn't be brave. No, you know who's brave. What about those three soldiers who were just transferred back from Jordan a couple weeks ago. Or our law enforcement officers or first responders. Or our veterans or our active duty officers.

2:07:17Like those people are brave. Not me for saying there are two sexes. You can't change your sex. And each sex is deserving of equal opportunity privacy and safety. But it is. I understand that it does require a sense of courage. So if that can be. I agree with everything you said about soldiers. There's first responders, but you're being brave as well. It's like there's a real social pushback that's very difficult for a lot of people to handle. And in the time where people are so concerned with mental health. Why are you not concerned with the mental health of people that you attack? Because you're not.

2:07:54Because you treat them as non -humans. And right, they do it under the guise of tolerance. Yeah. And acceptance. But that is not what I see. It's nonsense. And it's a trap. It's a trap for them too. You're not supposed to be behaving like that. You should be embarrassed yourself if this is the way you engage with ideas. If your ideas were strong enough to stand on their own, they should be debated with a bunch of people that are rational and level -headed and can talk about the pros and cons of each one of those things. And if they did that, this trans thing would have never gotten into women's sports.

2:08:26Not a single fucking time. If all the data, every single piece of data, shows that men have an advantage. They have an advantage in like spatial geometry. They have an advantage in long size, heart size. They have an advantage in the shape of the hips. They have an advantage pretty much across the board in bone density, except some populations of African -American women. But then some men, you know, like weightlifters are different. Like there's a bunch of variabilities. But reaction times way faster. There's a bunch of things. And there's also the male mind, like the hunter gather a mind. That's a real thing.

2:08:59Right. There's something to that. And it's why men win at chess. Doesn't make any fucking sense. Like why aren't women better at chess? Why do men win at pool? What is it about like the high level competitors in a bunch of these different things that don't seem to require physical strength, where men still win? Because there's some creepy advantage that men have. And I get pushed back for this all the time, especially on the chess thing. Like I say, if it's a woman's chess tournament, men shouldn't play them. And people will come for me and the trans rights activists and they'll say, oh my gosh, like you're saying that women are stupider than men.

2:09:37And I'm like, hold on. First of all, it's not what I'm saying. Second of all, I don't care if it's chess, I don't care if it's poker, I don't care. I don't care what it is. Again, if it's for women, it's for women bottom line. Right. So, yeah. If it's women's tea party. It's for women. It's for women. Yeah, it's like they just want a place where they get... And you have no men. That should be okay. Yeah. And it should be okay if men want to have a men's only cigar bar. Totally. That should be okay. Yeah, and that's your business. It's a good point. It goes both ways. Like we talk a lot about the perspective from women's privacy and safety and different things being threatened.

2:10:15But men are just as deserving of a single sex basis. But here's the difference. Men don't feel physically threatened if a trans man is in the locker room with me. No. Like if a trans man is in the locker room with me, I'm like, what's up, dude? Like, I don't care. Right. It does not get a... I'm not nervous. You're gonna rape me. Right. I'm not nervous so you can see my dick. This is normal stuff. Right. But if a woman is in a locker room with a fully intact man who's six foot fours walking around pretending he's a woman, that's madness. Now you're like, oh my god. Like the no rules apply. Exactly.

2:10:46What happened to perverts? They're still there. Yeah. They're still there. But now they're amazing. But now they're beautiful. It's just a weird fucking thing that everyone's accepted and that to push back on it like this is seen as so problematic. It's so... Hunter, first one. It's so... It's just so confusing. But I think it's shifting the other way. I really do. Because I see it with young kids today. I see it with like high school kids. I see it with most people that I interact with on a daily basis are happy that someone is saying something about this. Instead of just what they see in the New York Times and what they see in all the mainstream...

2:11:28Which if you had to like make a list of all mainstream media, whether it is newspapers, magazines, television channels, what's the ratio of liberal to conservative? Is it like 10 to 1, 8 to 1? What is it? I mean, probably about right, especially if you're looking at a lot of the local... Yeah. ...local outlets, local papers, right? There's a ton more liberal outlets. I think from mainstream media, like we have CNN and we have Fox. But in terms of who controls the media, definitely. I mean, probably 10 to 1, I don't know. If I wanted to destroy the country, and I was some evil person from another planet or whatever, and I had my Tim Foil, and I was looking at this, like I would say, well this is a good way to do it.

2:12:20Like just control all the media and have all the media say all these things, like life -saving, saving, gender, affirming care. Say those statements a lot, and you know, trans rights and this administration is committed to trans rights. Oh, trans rights, that's important. Yeah. And like everybody else is a Nazi, so you got to be on board with this. I want to know, you know, I hear all the time, trans rights are human rights. Literally what right do you or I possess that a trans person or someone who identifies as trans doesn't possess? It's a good point. They, I've never heard exactly, but honestly it's so true, like the whole, exactly.

2:12:54Like the whole like idea of all the like DEI, affirmative action stuff, like we are living in a time the most diverse and inclusive as a nation we have ever been. Yet people are still acting like this is the most oppressed they've ever been. What shows you truly like these people aren't happy with themselves. Like if you have to demand what someone else calls you to feel affirmed, you're clearly not secure enough with yourself. And I'm not going to affirm that. If you don't even know what you are, you expect me to know what you are? No way. You don't even know what you are. Well, it's a compliance thing.

2:13:36But it's like, look, there's always going to be people taking advantage of any sort of discourse, any sort of like open subject of discussion that's hot on everybody's mind, which is whether it's race or anything, when it's race, you're always going to have race oscillars. You're always going to have these outsharp and type characters, and slide on in, and they act as a spokesperson, and there's always going to be business behind that. Like Jesse Jackson had a whole business behind that. Of course. And you're always going to have these folks. You're always going to have these folks that maybe provide some good, but also make a lot of money.

2:14:18And they're at the forefront of all these things. And you're going to have that with trans rights, you're going to have that with gay rights, you're always going to have some people that capitalize on something, and they interject themselves into it, and they use it to stir people up. And they always call people either racist or transphobic or homophobic, and they use all those pejoratives. You're always going to have those people, but we have to learn how to ignore those morons. We have to learn how to just recognize that person. And honestly, like what I've realized, because again, like initially taking that first step, it was hard for me to read a lot of the things that were written and like, because again, a very natural woman, I think, thing, I think a pretty human thing.

2:15:02Like, I don't, I don't want to ruffle feathers. I don't want to step on toes. I don't want to be disrespectful. So it's hard for me to read a lot of what was being said about me online. But I realized pretty quickly, honestly, that the hate and the attacks that I were getting, they kind of fell into three categories, one of three. One, it was calling me some sort of phobia orrorism. And like I said, those words lost their meaning pretty quickly to me. Two, it was some sort of personal attack, like your ugly or like your hair extensions look bad. And I'm like, this is my real hair. Thank you. Question mark.

2:15:41Or something to the effect of maybe you should have just trained harder, which is the government. That someone eaten Cheetos. Exactly. And once you realize, once you realize there's no substance to anything these people are saying, really. And understanding the profiles, because again, all of this is pretty much done through social media. I will tell you, other than protesters I've had, like at campuses or events or something, like I have never once had someone in my day to day life come up to me and say something negative. But I've had thousands say something positive. So again, most of this is done through social media.

2:16:16What I've noticed about the profiles it's coming from. They don't have a profile picture a lot of time. They're scared to put their own face and name to it. Two, they are someone who you can tell has never played a sport in their entire life and who has no grasp of the importance of playing sports. And honestly, the importance of winning and succeeding in your sport. And how hard that is to do it. It is to do. Exactly. Once you, once I realized this conglomerate of things, I thought to myself, gosh, this speaks a whole lot more to their own insecurities than it does my own. And now I have no problem reading these comments.

2:16:58And most of them I don't read them. And people that you would never communicate with in the world. Exactly. And also a bunch of those burner accounts, they're probably not even American. No. It's probably a lot of troll farms or attacks to it because it's a socially viable issue. And understanding like social media is so not representative of reality of real life. So where you get these influx of negative comments, that's not representative of any normal population. Even in like your most liberal states, like this issue consistently polls at 75 % plus percent of Americans. Even San Francisco. Oh, I don't know about San Francisco.

2:17:37San Francisco, but it's 75 the other way. Yeah, honestly. No, but really like trans. Yeah, right. You know what I'm hoping? I'm really genuinely hoping. This is the cure for all this. If genetic engineering reaches a point where someone actually can become a woman. Okay, but what's the qualifications for that? What would you say? What would you say a man who fully became a woman? What would that mean? Like a uterus? Everything. Well, what is it? Is it like a uterus implant? No. Like we switch it all up. So. You put them in a box. You hit the button. Whoooo. You come out, Matilda. I'll wait for that.

2:18:16You get to be a woman. But that's the only way it's ever going to really work. Because this idea of like surgery. I don't know if I'm... Like all you're doing is art. You're doing art under person's body. But wouldn't that be a machine that did that too? No, no, no. It's cellular. It's molecular. Oh. Okay, so you were talking about changing like chromosomes. Yeah. Well, in the future, they're going to be able to do something probably pretty similar to that. They're already developing ways to edit genes. They're in China. These guys got arrested because they made these kids smarter. They literally edited.

2:18:48They said they were just doing it to prevent HIV. I go, oh, we made them smarter. Whoops. Accidental. Sorry. And this is all just by the way what we know about. I'm sure there's some top secret stuff that they've tried on human beings. There's no way they happen. They in the HIV era, they in the AIDS epidemic, they experimented on foster kids. They experimented with vaccines on foster kids and killed some of them. It's documented. You could read all about it. The idea that they wouldn't clone people, shut the fuck up. Come on. They would do whatever they want. Whatever they want. Especially in China, someone they can get away with it.

2:19:22So they're going to get to a point where they understand how to create a human being. And they'll probably say, listen. You're crying, you know, as you get older, it wouldn't be nice to take your 80 year old brain, stuck it in 20 year old Riley's body. Let's go. I like that. It would be dope, right? And then people are going to go, you know, it's really effective. I haunted it and she's incredible now. And you're an 80 year old person, a 20 year old body. And eventually they'll just get to be able to turn you into whatever they want. It's going to be very bizarre. They're going to be able to change your height, change your intellect, change if they find certain things that would lead you to maybe have tuberculosis, they'll delete that, change their state of life.

2:20:02Yeah, we're going to be editing human being. But sounds crazy, but this is what we're living through. What have sounded crazy. This is crazy. I mean, you and I could face time. I could be in Hawaii and you could be on Mount Everest. And if there's surface up there, you could face time. You could just talk to someone on the side of the planet. It's spontaneously. It's bananas. And we just take it for granted. We take for granted that we all have like, we make a movie with this stupid little thing that sits in our pocket. Crazy. And we have access to any, any answer to any question we can have as long as Google approves.

2:20:35As long as Google approves. You know one of things that Google didn't approve? Tell me. That story about the trans woman who, through Canadian services, so it's paid for by the Canadian government, decides that they want a breastfeed. And breast feeds and develops milk through these medication and breast feeds. They're nine month old baby. I tried Google in this. I couldn't find it. I go page after page after page after page. I go straight to duck .go. Bam. It's the second article. Crazy. I'm like, they're hiding this. Of course. They're hiding this story that is relevant. No. Did it? Maybe it's me.

2:21:14Maybe it's something that's not a big deal. There's not a bending you. Algorithm. Um, no, but it's true. Like, no, but this is February 2018. This is a new one. The new one is a 50 year old man who, uh, there's something creepy about him. This is, there's a new one, Jamie. This, this is in the one. See, this is why I couldn't find it. Go to duck, duck, go. Is it right there? Oh, that's right. They're HIV positive. That's right. This is an HIV positive man. But two, by the way, his breast feeding is baby. Super cool. Super. Super cool. Okay. How innovative. You can find it. I couldn't find it, Jamie.

2:21:50Maybe they changed after we complained about it. I think they're complaining about it more than once. And, um, but I found it on duck, duck, go like that. Oh my gosh. Like that. But that story is insane. And if, if you have a hard time and Google does, they curate, they curate searches. It's a fact. Of course. And Robert Epstein, who's a guy who's sort of documented how this affects elections, says this is essentially election manipulation and to point where it likes statistically, you can prove that due to search engine results, you can move a candidate one way or the other. That it's possible.

2:22:27Because if you can only, if you Google, right, if you Google Donald Trump and you only find the most horrendous, negative things, Donald Trump's success. And then you find corruption and scandal and that's all you can find. And it takes forever and ever. And here's everything's going great. Look at the inclusiveness. Look at how many lesbians are in the office. And when you do that, if that's all you find, of course, a certain percentage of low information voters are going to go to that. And it's enough to move the needle by like 10%, 13%. Probably more than honestly with how, how much people rely on social media.

2:23:04Yeah. Honestly. And when you saw what Google did with their fucking wacky AI, where their wacky AI would not show white men. I don't even, I can't even. It's so crazy. The founding fathers. Do they realize they're creating like when they do stuff like that, they create more of a divide. Again, under the guise of unity. I don't think they realized how nutty they are. Or again, maybe they want the divide. I don't think they realized how nutty they had programmed it. Nor do I think even though they're in the internet, I think they're in the internet in this very leftist liberal bubble. And I don't think they truly comprehend like forechan.

2:23:41And truly comprehend all the people that are going to be very suspicious of Google's AI and ask it trick questions. I want to know what Google's AI says about you. Oh God. I don't know. It's can be good. It can't be good. It can't be good. But I mean, you know, fortunately, if I've achieved, I've achieved, I've achieved, escaped velocity. Yeah. Or it's like it's big enough for like people actually know who I am. Whatever. Yeah. You can talk all the shit you want. It's like a point. Yeah. But that's what it is. It's like, but it takes a while to get there. Yeah. And they'll try to stop you every step of the way.

2:24:12And if you do achieve escape velocity, then they kind of shut up about you. Because then they realize every time they talk about you, it actually makes it bigger. Yeah. Which is this whole stuff with Donald Trump. Yeah. Like everything that's going on with taking him off the ballots. And I mean, all the different attacks they've had on him, trying to indict them and arrest them and blah, blah, blah. It's significantly helping him. Again, are they that stupid or they don't realize it? Or like, are we, are we being naive? Is this something they're going for? Like, I just, it's hard to, it's hard to grasp.

2:24:47It's hard to fathom. Well, it's people in a spiral. And it's like, you know, people that are really emotional, they don't realize that what they're doing is actually hurting it. You know, just screaming out of car window. It's like, fuck you. No, fuck you. Like, you're not getting anything done. You're not getting anything done here. No. But they're just caught up in it. And they just want him to lose and they had hope. They saw that he was being removed from ballots. Like, yes, justice has served. It's all those Biden super fans. The New York Times interviewed all these fucking zombies who are watching around New York City with their little dogs.

2:25:15Like, he's the best. Like, they tried to fucking minds. They're out of their fucking minds. No disrespect to little dogs. I was going to say, justice for Carl. Yeah. Justice for Carl. We love Carl. But these people are literal zombies. And there's a lot of them. And too many. Enough people that aren't that have to recognize that this is what you're dealing with. You're dealing with a giant percentage of the population that's literally lost its marbles. So what do we do? Keep talking. Keep talking, Riley. Yeah. Because people will listen to you. That's something you can do me something more profound because I don't think that...

2:25:57I'm numbing to a degree to have to keep saying the same thing. Right. Like, I'm sick of saying that women are different. Yeah. It will. But it is. I do. I agree. Like, you have to understand, like, not everyone hears that. So many people are deceived. Like, it's... You can't even blame them because they don't know right from wrong. You can't blame them for not doing right if they don't... If they were never really taught right. Right. And they don't know what right is. So... They've probably been taught something completely different than that. And they've probably been taught some very skewed version of reality.

2:26:33And, you know, unfortunately, there's no like mental health test to see if you should be raising children. You just get to raise them. And you're a... If you're a loon, your kids are probably going to be loony too. And the only thing that's going to get them out of this... Most of them are at least castrating themselves. Or not reproducing. I just don't know how those people get out of this. I think for the logical sane people, there's enough of us talking that we're just going, this is insane. Like, what you're doing, you're leading us down this road to demise and there's no road map. No one knows where we're going.

2:27:06And if you're going to change the definitions of everything and what Vivek wisely calls the tyranny of the oppressed, the oppressed are forcing everyone else to comply with their desires and needs. And they just write about that because that is what it is. And they feel because they have that title, they're above all the tyranny of the oppressed. Exactly. Yeah. But if people listen to you, actually listen to you. And not just read the bullshit in the clickbait and listen to you talk, they see a very accomplished woman who's done amazing things in the world of athletics, who's confronted by this very unique challenge and you're uniquely qualified to handle it.

2:27:47And so, I think that's what they're going to get out of this. I hope so because again, that's really all this is. I just wanted to swim. I just wanted to compete fairly. And then boom, that was impacted. And here we are, just trying to make a difference when and where we can. So that's certainly what I hope people see me as. You're right, getting past the headlines, anti -trans, swimmers, slams, Leah Thomas. But it's all that reductionist view of a human being. It is trying to paint you in the worst possible light, the bigotry, the transphobia. Like, stop using those words and just talk about the reality of the facts of what we're talking about here.

2:28:29And you realize you don't have an argument. No. Your argument is based on nonsense. Exactly. That's what every parent needs to wake up and recognize. That's what every person hearing this is. That every person that works in the schools needs to recognize. You're talking nonsense. And you're likely encouraging people who are mentally ill and maybe narcissists to dominate women's sports. Mostly narcissists. A lot of them. A ton of them. More than one. More than one. A ton of them. And they're encouraging this and they're making this person go from being a mediocre male swimmer to being a fucking hero.

2:29:04Exactly. And that's nonsense. And if we want to embrace nonsense, that's the road to demise. Because nonsense does not stop there. If we can get away with that nonsense, it's going to go further and further and further. And on the next thing. Bring on the next thing. Minor attracted persons. And it sounds nuts. If you had told me this a long time ago, I'd have said, dude, don't bring that up. That sounds insane. No one's really going to accept that. But when you see people openly on film who are... This lady from Kentucky, this Democrat representative or senator or whatever she is in Kentucky, who...

2:29:36Who was mentioning in their state... In their state legislature. Said something to the effect of, look, you know, these minor attracted persons. There's a lot of benefit to having child sex dolls. Because it can help decrease their appeal and desires for actually, you know, pursuing young children. So there was a bill introduced that would do just that. And I see this and I'm like, this lady is evil. There's really no other word for it. She's evil. And then the next day she comes out after it got national attention of what she had said and what she was advocating for is helping... I wouldn't even say it's helping curb these sexual predators' desires.

2:30:26It's feeding into it, honestly. Bro, because if you have that desire, but never did it. And then you get a robot doll. It's a little boy. Well, that's the sickest thing I've ever heard. But she came out the next day and said, you know, I just feel like we should have room as adults for open discussions. There is no open discussion for pedophiles. There is no open discussions. I guess unless it's electric chair or life in prison, maybe we can have that discussion. But other than that, there is no discussion for pedophiles in this country, in this world. I wonder if that woman has children. Probably.

2:31:02That's scary. Isn't it? That's scary. And again, it's just this cult thinking. And I don't know how it got into the education system. And I don't know how it got into these people's mouths where they got so confident in saying it. They could say it in front of cameras. Well, it's because they're teaching it. Even if you look at something like scholastic, right? Like they put on these big book fairs and different things. Like, obviously we've seen the books that they're bringing in to school... I mean, to grades as young as kindergarten is crazy, which is why it's important to find alternatives.

2:31:37Like there's an alternative for everything, whether it's skincare. Okay, don't use dove. We just saw their Super Bowl commercial, which was... It was so funny. It was... The protagonist was a young girl swimmer in a locker room. And the punchline of the whole commercial was about keeping girls in girl sports. So I see this watching the Super Bowl. And I'm like, oh my gosh, this is like the first big organization who is like standing with women. And like defending women's sports and saying no men in women's sports. I'm like, this is great. So I go to their like social media profiles because I'm like really trying to look into this and see if anyone else caught onto this or if it was just me and I was being hyper vigilant.

2:32:21They were hiding all the replies that had mentioned keeping men out of women's sports. So I was like, oh my gosh, what virtue signaling fools, really? So instead of using dove, use something like... So they were hiding the replies. So they made that ad and they made that ad presumably for pro women in women's sports. Right? Yeah. But then they're hiding... Their hook to it was speaking to like the mental health of female athletes. But I saw it and was like, oh, the best way to keep girls in girl sport. Yeah, but dove has outwardly expressed like the last Olympics in 2020 when Laurel Hubbard or 2016, Laurel Hubbard, a man, power lifter from New Zealand.

2:33:08They were like, we love you Laurel Hubbard. Here's our products, be an ambassador, whatever. So they really don't. They do, but the best way to keep girls in girl sports is to keep boys and men out of girl sports. So don't use dove, use something like Neemyskincare or don't shop at Target, use something like Yakima Pearl or United S or Scholastic back to Scholastic. Don't use Scholastic. Don't buy your books from Scholastic. Use something like Brave Books, which is a phenomenal group and organization that produced these like... Pro -God, pro -country, pro -America, pro -family, wholesome books that aren't political, they're not partisan.

2:33:51But again, virtuous and I think what kids need to read. So I think there's alternatives for everything and I think that's how we make a difference ultimately because like we've said, this movement really is driven by dollar signs and by money. And so while of course not everyone can give financially what everyone can do is stop giving your money to organizations and companies that hate you. I think people woke up to that with Bud Light. Definitely. That's a real factor. And it works. And then they also woke up to it with Google after Google's AI. They're stock crashed hard. People are like, what the fuck are you doing?

2:34:28Because it's so nutty. Like how could anybody invest in this? Like let's get out of this now. And what do they lose? How much did Google lose from that? It was something like $9 billion. Crazy. And that's, you got lucky there. Yeah. No much trust you ever again. No. If I was thinking about using a Google phone I see that and I'm like, what? Fuck out of here. What you've done is most importantly you become like a logical face of all this. A reasonable face of all this. And a person who can handle it. And you're really good at like confronting people that oppose it. And it's an interesting thing to watch and navigate it but you're doing it really well.

2:35:03Well, it's worth it. It's worth it and it's necessary. So bring it on. Bring it on. Bring on the men and dresses. I'm ready for them. There's a lot of things that scare me. But a man in a dress will never be one of them. Okay. Well listen Riley, I really enjoyed talking to you. I appreciate what you're doing. And again, your courage. And now you don't like to think about it that way but it is courageous. And it's important. And it's important to see for people to see the real you. Well, thank you. And I hope we did that. Definitely. I've got a book that has just dropped. It is being released in May.

2:35:41But believe it or not, of course, this is this is the short to kind of, I guess, the how and the why, right? Like the how I got here, the why I got here. It's called Swimming Against the Current Fighting for Common Sense in a world that's lost its mind. Also have a podcast of my own without kick called Games for Girls. Which has been super fun to be on the other side of things. But really, I couldn't appreciate you more. Giving the opportunity on a very large scale. And really important for me too, like it's not just preaching to the choir. A lot of the rooms I find myself in, it's talking to people who agree with me.

2:36:22Which is great. Like, but that's not who we need to reach. That's not who we need to persuade. Because again, they already agree. So I could not be more grateful for the opportunity to reach some people who aren't Fox News Watchers. Pretty incredible. So very grateful. My pleasure. Thank you very much. Yes, thank you. Bye everybody.