#2119 - James Lindsay

14 Mar 2024 · 3 h 6 min

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The Joe Rogan Experience Podcast Episode #2119 - James Lindsay

Episode Overview In this episode, Joe Rogan invites James Lindsay, a writer, political commentator, mathematician, and podcaster, to discuss various socio-political topics, including border policies, global politics, ideological movements, and the influence of communism in modern society. Lindsay's latest book, "The Queering of the American Child," co-authored with Logan Lancing, is highlighted during the conversation.

Key Discussion Points

Border and Immigration Issues

  • Chinese Infiltration Concerns: Lindsay and Rogan discuss the possibility of Chinese military-age men crossing the U.S. border, raising concerns about national security.
  • Cloward-Piven Strategy: Lindsay explains the strategy to overwhelm systems like social services and border enforcement, potentially leading to a societal collapse to justify new policies.

Global Power Dynamics

  • U.S. vs. China: Concerns are raised about China's rise as a global superpower and the potential decline of the U.S. due to strategic geopolitical moves.
  • Belt and Road Initiative: The conversation touches on China's strategy to dominate global trade routes and influence developing nations.

Ideological Influence and Social Movements

  • Queer Theory and Education: Lindsay critiques the influence of queer theory in education, suggesting it leads children into personal crises to indoctrinate them into social justice ideologies.
  • Religious Cult Dynamics: The discussion explores how movements like queer theory might function like religious cults, targeting childhood innocence and promoting radical ideologies.

Economic and Corporate Influence

  • ESG and Corporate Control: Environmental, Social, and Governance (ESG) criteria are scrutinized as tools for corporate control and potentially stifling economic growth in favor of environmental activism.
  • Degrowth Strategy: Lindsay suggests a strategic movement to "degrow" Western economies in favor of rising powers like China.

Cultural and Societal Observations

  • Health and Fitness as Right-Wing Extremism: The conversation humorously critiques how health and fitness are sometimes portrayed as right-wing extremism.
  • Influence of Historical Figures: The influence of figures like Klaus Schwab and George Soros is debated, particularly concerning their roles in shaping global policies and ideologies.

Personal Insights and Experiences

  • Lindsay's Political Journey: Lindsay shares his personal political evolution, including overcoming Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) and finding value in religious teachings.
  • Rogan's Observations: Joe Rogan provides his perspective on societal changes, the role of media, and the balance between freedom and control in society.

Notable Concepts

  • Ideological Transformation in China: The podcast delves into the historical and present-day ideological strategies implemented in China and their global impact.
  • The Role of Religion: Discussions on how religious beliefs can serve as a counterbalance to totalitarian ideologies and provide moral guidance.

Conclusion The episode offers a thought-provoking analysis of current socio-political issues, emphasizing the need for awareness and critical thinking in the face of complex global dynamics. Lindsay's insights provide a roadmap for understanding the influence of ideological movements and the potential consequences of unchecked power and control.

Resources

  • James Lindsay's latest book, "The Queering of the American Child"
  • Websites: [New Discourses](http://www.newdiscourses.com), [Queering Book](http://www.queeringbook.com)

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0:03The Joe Rogan Experience. Showing my day Joe Rogan podcast my night all day. That's a power, sir. I'm good, Joe. It's American, that's too many. Sure. We both, we didn't even coordinate, we're both more in American flags. Yeah, well, I mean, it's that kind of, it's that time, right? Yeah. It's time to start saying, you know what, I'm an American and that's cool. Before you say that, I mean, if you don't, we're on the way to saying I'm Chinese. Yeah. Well, how's your Mandarin? Yeah, it might be a good time to learn it as they're all sneaking in across the border. That's one of the more disturbing things.

0:44I want to talk to Brett Weinstein, he's talking about how many Chinese military age men are sneaking across the border. And you want to, you want to look at it the best way possible. He said, well, it's probably a bunch of people that are looking for work and it's probably a bunch of people that are, you know, there's not as many Chinese women and they're trying to looking for a girlfriend or something. Yeah. Why do they have military haircuts? Well, they're probably, you know, it's just like a young man thing. Yeah. I mean, I've heard more specifically, I can't vet it, so I can't prove it. So like, there's the grain of salt up front, but I have, I've heard that even Chinese special forces, if I was a special forces of a hostile country, I'd try to sneak across and do infiltration.

1:25So I've heard that there might be even, you know, hundreds or thousands of those, not hundreds of thousands, hundreds or thousands, but I don't know if that's true. Well, I wouldn't, it's not even really sneaking in anymore, is it? No, you just kind of walk across and, I mean, there's even memes that are like, I'm going to go to Honduras and give up my American citizenship and come back across, so everything will be paid for for me. You know, it's like, no, it's not sneaking across. It's like, as they are saying, full -scale invasion. Well, it's just weird. It's weird that we've just kind of going, well, well, we've always, I mean, there was always customs.

2:00There's always a land. They check out your stuff. They look at your paperwork. They go through your passport. They ask you questions. Why are you in this country? You know, and it's always been that way. Like, I was watching this video with, you know, Deadmouses. Yeah. Deadmouses, the musician, the DJ. He was trying to come into the country to visit his friend and they said, no, you're coming into work. He's like, no, no, I'm coming because he's famous. He works. He's like, no, I'd get paperwork. And they kicked him out of the country for like seven years. Well, he should have just walked through.

2:38Yeah, right. You should have known. I'm just going to do whatever I want. But what a bizarre thing. If you're undocumented, if you are poor, and if you're going to do cheap labor, walk right in. But if you're a highly skilled, world famous DJ, and you want to go visit a friend, we're concerned that you might actually be working there. Yeah, or like a super pro tennis player who's going to go play in the US open, but no, maybe not. Well, that was the Vax. That was the Vax. By the way, Neil Young came back to Spotify. Congratulations, Neil. Yeah, well, that's good news. And his excuse was he said that because all of the platforms are now allowing my disinformation.

3:22So that he's just go back on Spotify too. Oh, yeah. Great to know. You've got some ethics. Yeah. Well, everybody's doing it these days. This information. But yeah, I mean, there's a strategy. The reason the border is the way it is is that there's a strategy. I don't know who's playing the strategy for sure, but the the cloud piv in strategy. I'm sure you've heard of that. Somebody's got to have talked to you about the cloud piv in. You explain. Yeah, it's pretty simple. The idea is that you, you take advantage of a system in the way that it's set up so that you overwhelm it. In particular, in this case, you're going to overwhelm self social services.

3:55You're going to overwhelm, you know, border enforcement. You're going to overwhelm whatever they're doing in the cities. You know, it's like tens of thousands of dollars per taxpayer or whatever per year going to dealing with what they're calling the migrant crisis. So you try to overwhelm the system in order to basically collapse it so that you can create a crisis. And the crisis creates the excuse to bring in new policies. Oh, well, maybe what we need is what do they call it e -verifier something. So we need a digital system where we can track who everybody is, but then they get their digital system and then you're off to the races.

4:24Yeah, but yeah, it's, this is an old strategy well documented. Who do you think is implementing this strategy and what are the conversations do you think? Well, it's not possible to deny that the Biden administration is implementing it because they went to, they tried to fight Texas on securing its own border to protect its own citizens. That blew up. What was that end of January? Is that when they, that all blew up very recently? Yeah, it was pretty, pretty recent. And so certainly they are. We know historically that the Open Society Foundation or the Soros Foundation, which is Open Society, has been funding that and has been helping out.

5:01We know that the UN is involved now. Like these aren't, these aren't mysteries. The UN is coming and doing, you know, aid and coaching them and somebody's organizing. Not just, it's like it's not just a bunch of people from South America and China or wherever else or Mexicans wandering up to the border and like just, hey, I'm here. There's like roots. There are, it's caravans. There's, there's help. It's coordinated with a lot of money behind it. And we know that those organizations for the United Nations, particularly is helping this. So big players. So what do you think the strategy is? The strategy is to implement some sort of a worldwide verification system and the way to get these freedom -loving shitheads in America on board is to turn America into a crime -ridden place of immigrants coming from very hostile places where their life has been very hard.

5:57Yeah. And they've been in prison or whatever. And they're escaping that and they're coming to America and then they're off to the races. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's a plausible motive, right? Is let's overwhelm this system because these freedom -loving shitheads here in America, which I think I am for sure. Look at your shirts. Look at me. Yeah. But no, I really am. Like that's, I'm still at the end of the day. I just kind of want to be left alone to live my life. Like, you do your thing. I'll do my thing. Like, I really, if you understand the two, there are two lines. Let's be real clear. Before I say, do whatever you want, as long as you don't hurt anybody, it's not clear enough.

6:33There are two lines. Do you understand the difference between public and private and do you understand the difference between adult and child? If you understand those two lines and you're on the right side of those, I don't care what you do in private as long as this was adults. I don't care what you do. Leave me alone. I'll leave you alone. You're cool. I'm cool. Like, let's not interfere with one another. Which is how we all should be. Right. That's what real freedom is. But we don't want a system tying us like the Chinese social credit systems real. Right. We're not, this isn't some conspiracy out in the world.

7:00Whether or not it's coming to the United States as a question, whether Americans would want it as a question, but it's in China. It's real in China. It's been there for a decade. I've been to China. I've experienced life there. And the fact of the matter is that this worldwide verification system would set something like that up. You can also overwhelm the US system so that all of a sudden, you know, it has to start taking some kind of an emergency measure to deal with whatever problems. You know, we can talk about the crisis here in the United States, but holy crap. Look at what's going on in the UK.

7:37I was over there right after, right at the end of October. So in October 7th, we all know what happened in Israel. And then all these huge protests broke out like pro -Palestine. So I had some places to go. I don't really give a shit about my surroundings all that much. I'm going to do what I want to do as long as I'm not like cause. So I'm walking against the grain up this, whatever they said, like 150 ,000 or something like that people waving the Palestinian flag walking down the street the other way on their march and London, because I had to get where I was going. London's in trouble, right?

8:07Like the UK is in trouble. When we start talking about this overwhelming the system, we're looking at these kind of, you know, much more generous social democracies, Sweden, Germany's host, I mean, their economies, possibly in free fall, the UK. And what are the, what at that point, what does the solution look like? Right. How could they fix that problem now? Belgium's a big one. I was riding with this guy. I went to spoke at the EU parliament this time last year. So I'm riding with this dude and it turns out he's like the European James Bond. He's like driving me from the airport and he's like, oh, yeah, you know, we've got to deal with this problem.

8:42I do all the security stuff or whatever. And he's talking to me about how you can get arrested if one of them starts a fight with you and you do anything about it. It's racism and you'll end up hauled before a tribunal. And it's happened to him. And it's like, we've got to start figuring our way to get him out. But it's like, how do you get him out? And I don't mean everybody. I mean the people who are causing criminal problems, the people who aren't trying to follow Belgian law or UK law or whatever else. And they're going on TV saying this like, you know, there's that in mom or whatever the other day that famously went on and was like in London, it was like, you know, we're going to take this country.

9:17Like we're not going to follow your rules or not follow your law. I don't remember what he said. So that's not exactly right. Lot of information passes between these years these days. But the fact of the matter is the question becomes when you have a crisis at that scale, what are your options for fixing it? And I think that that's part of the cloud -piven strategies. How do you end up fixing a problem that's at that scale? I think they're doing the same thing. To be honest with you, sounds all crazy conspiratorial. But I think this is why I was been peddled to the metal with the transition stuff, the trans stuff.

9:48If you end up with a million kids, you've got a million kids like that really are on the medical system. What do you do with them? What do you do with a million kids? And then their parents and their aunts and uncles. Everybody, the whole system has to start bending around a reality that was kind of manufactured. And you can get some major changes. But it seems like this. If you want to go full tinfoil hat, there has to be a plan. So that means there has to be conversations. There has to be a bunch of people that agree to this. Like who would those people and how do those conversations take place?

10:22Well, I mean, we do who are the people? Well, again, I just point back the Biden administration has to have had conversations. They petition the Supreme Court to stop Texas from enforcing its border. I would love to know what those conversations look like. Whoever's funding it, at some point had to sit down at a table, probably not exactly like this. It might not have as much cool stuff on it, but they sat down and they signed some contracts and said this is where the money is going to go. Do you think it could be that it's the federal government putting power over state governments to make sure that state governments don't say we can do what we want?

11:00Well, I mean, that's the fight between Texas and the federal government. So for sure, that's that's part of it. But I think there's the United Nations that's kicking this too. That's pushing this. I mean, so a lot of people don't understand this. And I'm skipping around the United Nations sees itself as a kind of global entity, 193 member states, blah, blah, blah, 17 sustainable development goals to transform our world, all that. But I'm going to skip over and talk about like sorrows for a second, because we know that the Open Society Foundation has pushed a lot of this kind of stuff too. And it's a lot of people don't understand sorrows or what is the Open Society that he's talking about.

11:36Well, that's based off of a lot of people don't know. Soros's mentor was the famous Carl Popper and Carl Popper wrote a book in 1945 called Open Society and its enemies. And so the Open Society is what we've been taking for granted, basically in the post -World War II era. And what we want, that's where it's a free society, it's a high trust society, it's a, you know, people can do what they want. They don't have to worry about, you know, whether they're going to get car jacked all the time or whatever else. And soros is like, well, you could have that in the nation or you could have that where there's kind of one Open Society in the globe.

12:10So a lot of people start thinking that he's working with China, but he doesn't like China, because China doesn't have an Open Society that's not what he wants. But the idea that there's this line that comes across to south of Texas and New Mexico and Arizona and California where arbitrarily so to speak. The United States says this is our land and Mexicans have to stay out. He would be against that. That's not an, this should be like an open Pan American kind of mega continent, kind of in his mind with one society. So what do you have to do? Well, you have to dissolve a border and how can you dissolve a border?

12:43Well, make so many people be able to cross that border through changes legally and through flooding the system. So that the border doesn't really mean anything anymore, because borders are simple, right? What is a border? It's a, it's a line we drawn a map and we say laws on this side of this border mean this and laws on the other side of this border are different. Right, US has law, Mexico has law and this line is where we have US law versus Mexican law on either, you know, one step across and now you're in another set of laws. That's what they mean. That's what borders are as a political entity.

13:15But if you can water that down, so it's like, well, there's so many people coming across, like, is there really a border? Right, that's the idea because source is idea as a global open society. Everything in the whole globe, you know, you know, maybe I don't know if it's that extreme, but maybe you don't need passports, you don't cry. It's like the EU, but for the whole world. Wouldn't a better option be America, but for the whole world? I would say so because you can look at Europe and see if the EU is not doing really well. Well, we're not sneaking into Mexico. In fact, you can just drive into Mexico.

13:52Mariana Vanzella, who does that fantastic show traffic. Yeah, if you watch that show. No. That lady is a gangster. Oh, man, she goes to the craziest places. She goes to Columbia and watches them make cocaine and then goes through the jungle with them when they have it on their backs. So she did one in Los Angeles where it turns out that cops, dirty cops in LA are confiscating weapons and then selling them to the cartel and they just drive into Mexico with them because nobody checks you when you go into Mexico. So these guys have trunk fulls of AKs and they're just driving into Mexico and she goes with them.

14:29Holy crap. The whole episode is documenting this and that's the, we'll see, we're not sneaking into there. You could just go right into there. They're sneaking into here. Would the best case scenario? Is it even possible to have this everywhere? Well, that's what we wanted, right? And that was the whole idea of spreading democracy, but it doesn't totally seem like it worked. Yeah, no, it doesn't seem like it worked. And there are some some big reasons for that. Well, powers, the power is a big one. And the fact is when you start getting, you know, divorced too far away from Mexican issues being ruled by, ruled over and say, Ottawa is a little bit difficult, right?

15:09Right. But so there's that kind of stuff. But there's also a huge geo political. I hate misusing that word. I learned what the word geopolitical really means. It wasn't really. It means politics of earth things like waterways, oceans, and so it's like, I vote you use it wrong too. I go totally like autistic every time I say the word now. And I'm like, damn it. I know it means something different because we all use it wrong, but I mean, use it wrong. Anyway, there's a geopolitical move from China right now called the Belt and Road Initiative. And the Belt and Road Initiative, that's tied to the bricks.

15:39That's the idea is that the entire global south with China as its head is going to become the new epicenter of the superpower of the world. And it's going to be not just trade. I mean, China doesn't exactly trade on fair terms. They're going to go and basically exploit places. We'll build you a nice airport. We'll build you a nice port. We'll build you some highways. By the way, they all go straight to the mine and we're taking all of your lithium when we come in. That's your deal. And now you're economically dependent on us. Pretty standard game that they're playing in that Belt and Road Initiative actually is a competing interest to spreading democracy around the world.

16:14So I know Vivek Ramaswamy really hit this out of the park where he said, we went over to China and said, let's spread democracy to China. So in the sense, we bid off way more than we could chew if you want to think of it that way. Let's spread democracy to China. And China was like, ha ha ha, yeah, let's see. And they flipped the table on us and made it so that if you want to play in, if you want to get in the Chinese market. So first they become the manufacturing base of the world. But then if you want to play in the Chinese market, what do you have to do? Well, the CCP puts up a firewall. And if you don't, don't play by the Chinese rules, you don't get into China.

16:45So now Nike and all these big corporations and all these other NBA, I named Nike because it just keeps coming to mind. But there's a huge consumer market over there that's buying up stuff like crazy. That's one of the things I witnessed in China. Everybody started to have money. So they're buying up brand name stuff everywhere that they can all the time to show that they have some money now. And huge market. So they want into the market, the market's gigantic. It's the manufacturing base. So it's, you know, relationships are built. But if you want to play, you play by Chinese rules. So spreading democracy partly didn't work because we have to play by China's rules.

17:21And that's their Belt and Road initiative is meant to create a global, global South network. So we're the global North that's, you know, South America, parts of Africa, a lot of like Indonesia, India. And then China, of course, bricks just throws Russia into that mix. But otherwise that's who you're talking about. And China is setting itself up to be the kind of global superpower or hegemon of that entire project. And we're talking about, you know, the flow of trillions of dollars of goods and oil and energy and whatever every year. So that's a huge thing to play with. And it turns out, I don't think if we take the Vex line, we got out foxed in the deal.

18:02So spreading democracy, you know, there are lots of these cultural reasons. Oh, they're not ready for democracy. I don't know. Maybe, maybe some places, maybe not some places. But there are other pressures too that we've been asleep to. We're not, we have not been paying attention as a country. Maybe some of our like state department people have been to China for the way that we should have been like we should have ended in the 80s and 90s like, oh no, China. Right. But we were like, oh yeah, China. Okay, cool. Yeah, go like make all of our cheap stuff for us. Well, they've done an amazing thing in combining communism with capitalism.

18:34That's right. If you just have North Korea, you never develop a real superpower. Thank you. Thank you, Joe. I, I beat this drum and I get called crazy all the time. Because what I'm trying to tell people is that communism is what's happening to this country. Okay. But it doesn't look like communism. Because it's like, how is Nike communist. Right. And I'm picking on Nike. How is Boeing? Let's become Boeing instead. How is Boeing communist? You know, they've all these. How is Disney communist? Right. The huge mega corporations. What did, what did Google just lose over its stupid AI? 90 billion dollars or something?

19:08It's something insane. Like, I didn't even know they had that much money to lose. And it's like, holy crap, you know, and stockholder value or whatever. Your shareholder value. So it was only nine billion. I thought that was Bud Light. That was not. No, no, Bud Light was 27. But it was like, we're like, haggling over like insane amounts of 11 12 figure, you know, I know, right? Yeah. And so it's like at least 10 figure numbers of money. Like Elon kind of rolls in that department, but nobody else does. So anyways, what, where was I going with this? Because this is huge. Oh, the communist. Why? How in the world these huge things communist, right?

19:44So communism didn't work, right? Soviet Union sucked North Korea sucked Cuba sucks. Like, I'm sure it's like geographically beautiful. But we know those places are dysfunctional as hell. Right. We can go to the Eastern block. They're still devastated in a lot of ways. They're still not all the way together. Like communism didn't work. But if we think of like what Marx did leading up to say 1917 when Lenin kind of took over as communism 1 .0, that never really even got off the ground. Then Lenin got it off the ground and you get the Soviet model, which is Soviet just means committee. By the way, if you didn't know that it's like a ruling council or committee.

20:20So Soviet model takes over with what they called Marxism Leninism and that worked kind of it worked. It's a still had it in China till Mao died. They had it in Soviet Union until what 89 90 91 something like that when it fell. But what happened was when Mao died like the Soviet Union wasn't doing great. It was starting to fall apart. A new model got picked up and nobody's we talk about Mao Zedong sometimes. And I would love to talk to you all day about Mao. That's my new research project. But we don't talk about his successor. His successor was Deng Xiaoping. And this is where I actually disagree with Vivek about what I was just saying.

20:55Deng Xiaoping had a saying that was I don't care if the cat is black or white as long as it catches mice. And what he was talking about is I don't care if we use markets or use a Soviet style central committee to organize our society as long as China's economy comes back. That's what he really meant. And so Deng didn't come up with this new model to open the markets on his own. We didn't go to China to spread necessarily just a spread democracy. We went to build China. And who's we? Well, let's name the names. Who was in the meeting. And there's a movie about some of these meetings were in China.

21:27And there's not a movie. But there's a movie called Mr. Deng goes to Washington. That took place in Washington DC. So you can go watch the movie. I'm not making this up. Deng Xiaoping was the leader of China. He's already networking with with Klaus Schwab from the World Economic Forum in his space suit. But he meets with. And the list of people were Henry Kissinger, Jibonu Brzezinski allegedly TH Chan David Rockefeller and the sitting new emperor or whatever CCP chairman of China. Deng Xiaoping. And they cook up this plan to open Chinese markets. And the plan was to maybe to spread democracy into America, but I suspect it was mostly to get really rich.

22:07We open those markets, huge amount of money, giant multinational corporations are not tied to any geographical place. And they can get rich off their balls. Now, some of these guys, I think, were also ideologically motivated. The Rockefeller's if funded communist crap all over the world for a very long time. China was communist. Deng Xiaoping said, I'm not opening the market for the market. I'm opening the market for socialism to make socialism productive. And so they had a, I think there was more of a plan there than we take, take into account, which means Vivek gives. I need a Timfoil hat. Vivek sees that our money is going to be in the market.

22:45And the motivations in building China were necessarily good. I think the motivations for building China were to create the pincher of a trap that's called the Cittity's trap in ancient kind of military strategy that the only escape from would be to facilitate China's rise and decimate the West in order to avoid a nuclear tip war war three. I think they knew what they were doing. So you think by spreading democracy, their idea was to reinvigorate China's economy so that China becomes a threat. Yeah, really. Yeah, so it's trying to get so the, how did it be so for D chess? The back pages of Reddit conspiracy.

23:24Well, listen, we know that we know that Klaus Schwab is kind of if there are conspiracies, the James Bond villain, kind of not quite out of central casting. See the photo we have them in the bathroom. Yeah, with the Darth Vader. I'm the one who told you about his space suit. We put it up on screen. Yes. Yes. Yes. Do you know who Klaus Schwab's mentor was? I do, but I forgot Henry Kissinger. That's right. Who was in the same meeting? This was Harvard. Well, his whole father was a Nazi. That's I can't vet that for positive sure, but that's what I have heard. But what is this? What is the truth of that?

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24:00Let's find out who is Klaus Schwab's father? At least his father did something like he was like bringing like the nuclear technology for the Nazis to South Africa or something. Something crazy like that. I mean, I know the story vaguely. I knew it at one point. Like you can't help but your father is. That's correct. And you know, unfortunately you get born. Your dad's a nice man. I'm much less worried about Klaus being a Nazi than I am. Like he has an interview he gave where he's in his office and behind him up on the bookshelf. It's a bust of Lenin. How to held a that get there? Like other than Jordan Peterson, who puts one of those up?

24:34Communists. The Jordan studying them. And that's why he puts them up as a reminder. Not no shade at Jordan. Obviously. But like Klaus has got some, you know, big ambitions, I think. And his mentor was Kissinger. He's such a strange guy the way he talks about it too. It's so right out of a movie like this cannot be real. No one is really you are all nothing. And you would be happy with that accent. And no one's freaking out. I think that my favorite ones are example the conversation is like yes. And some years Vival all have the chips and all brains. And so you will be sitting there and I will be sitting here and Vival be having a conversation.

25:10There is a false attribution attribution. So it's fake inaccurate WF. This is from a book I read. Yeah, this is writer founder. Klaus Schwab family tree shared online. So what is the inaccuracies? He was related to the Rothschild family. Oh, that was the fake one. Oh, yeah, that because his mother is my super secret. Okay. So that's fake. That's not true. But the thing about his father. That's why I was getting admitted. This is explaining what his father was to. Okay. There was Jewish. And his father did what? Well, if his father was open that can. Well, that's the whole thing with Soros though, you know Soros was Jewish and his uncle took him around as a young boy when they confiscated property from the Jews.

25:54And he had to pretend that he was a Christian. Yeah. Did you ever see the interview with what is so who is his dad? I mean, I'm trying to get to something that says it. Okay. We should really clarify that. No, miss it. Okay. So who is this gentleman? Wilhelm. What did he do? Wilhelm? What did you do? Okay. Did Soros is or clash fobs faza work for Hitler? Claim George Soros work for Hitler. Okay. But what is what did his dad do? I got a reason. This book was this book that I read was about elite power structures and one of the going to the world economic former. I wish I could remember exactly what they were saying, but it was something to the tune of who's dad worked with.

26:40Well, just be clear since you have the Tim Foil hat right now, Joe, that my source for his mentor being Kissinger is a book called that was published by the world economic form called the world economic form the first 40 years, which was published in 2011 to brag about how cool they've been. He also brags that in 78 he started making connections to Deng Xiaoping and trying to bring the stakeholder as he called it capitalism model into China. Which is what China actually installed? It's this dirty fusion of neoliberalism, which is basically how do you get huge corporations to basically suck off of the government.

27:14That's the thing the left has been mad about for 50 years. How do you fuse that to communism and China's the answer. And what I think is all this ESG stuff was constructed around it to make the West have it too. So environmentalism social what is it environmental social governance. That's right. Yeah, ESG. Yeah. And that stands for exactly what is the goal of ESG corporate control. But the stated so it is to create the it is to create a metric a measurement tool to assess the likely long term viability of a corporation based on its environmental social and internal corporate governance. Long term viability for the nation.

27:58No, for the corporation. The corporation says here's what's going on is ESG was created at the United Nations in 2003 by a guy named James Gifford. And the point was he said, well, there's at that point about $6 trillion of money that's sitting out there. It's people's pensions. It's like passive, right mutual funds index fund all this mutual funds, particularly for one case. There's state pension funds in particular $6 trillion in the world. Sitting out there that's just people's retirement funds gaining interest playing in the market through this money management. And the question James Gifford asked was how he was a forest guy.

28:35He was like, how do we apply that to saving the forest save the trees. Right. And so he came up with this idea that if we had environmental assessments, anytime you have a metric, you can use that metric in some way or another or you can game that metric. If we had metrics to say, well, how environmentally compliant are companies like kind of an extension of corporate social responsibility. They used to call it if we can measure that, then what we can do is we can start directing, you know, we can say, well, companies that have a long term or that have good environmental policy have a better long term portfolio.

29:07But these are 30 year investments because they're people's pensions. So that's long term success that we're interested in not boom and bust cycles in the market. So the stated ambition, not just to do what I said, but specifically to do that to bring that passively invested money into what they call impact investing. In other words, to do activism with investor money by investing in, you know, green energy companies or green other environmental companies or socially just companies or, you know, companies with good governance. And in principle, at least the good governance thing should work, but the thing is is corruption exists.

29:44I don't know how they neglected the account for that if we give them all the credit in the world. So like right now, it's super corrupt. I just did a podcast about this where I had this document. This episode is brought to you by LifeLock. Tax season is already stressful. You shouldn't have to worry about identity theft on top of everything else. And trust me, it's a big worry, especially since during tax season, your sensitive info does a lot of traveling to places you can't control. It goes through payroll, your accountant or your tax consultant and countless other data centers on its way to the IRS.

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31:50They say, well, if you want a good ESG score, you need to put an activist on your board or 30 % women on your board or DEI requirements on your Boeing board. Or you have to have a good corporate equality index score, which is published by the Human Rights Campaign, which means that you're not just having a non -discriminatory workplace for LGBT, but you're also promoting LGBT agendas. You're lobbying on behalf of bills one way or the other in the legislature. We'll tell you which ones, a couple of years ago, they told the airlines they needed to fly around activists to the Pride Parade, so they'd have more people with them for rent and price.

32:25Oh, yeah, why do you think Dylan Mulvaney's face was on a beer can? The whole fallout of the Dylan Mulvaney explosion at Bud Light, all of it was about the C .E .I. score because then the Human Rights Campaign came out and said, well, you didn't stand up for Dylan, so we're going to lower your score anyway. And they were like, oh no, and then everything got all tossed up. These numbers mean a lot to people. So the stated goal was to take, to create a set of measurements that they could use to justify taking trillions of dollars of other people's money and doing activist investing with it. And then I'll turn into the S is now D .E .I.

33:01It's woke, it's woke social justice is not social responsibility. It's whatever they want. Elon Musk bought Twitter and a social score for Tesla went through the floor. Like what did they have to do? And then all of a sudden, Tesla's a racist company, they accused him of like, what are you talking about? Right? They didn't like that he bought Twitter. Weapons manufacturers like Dick Chinese Halliburton were, you know, social bad, bad, bad, bad. And then all of a sudden the conflict and Ukraine like breaks out and they're like, oh, we need, we need missiles. And they changed the score basically overnight that that's a because the social environment of the world changed.

33:32These are real things like this is all verifiable. So I think it's an instrument maybe it wasn't meant to be in 2003. Maybe the guy just wanted to save the trees. But it's become an instrument of control and effectively a social credit system for corporations to force corporations. And that's what Larry think said about it on TV. He said, you could pull up the, I'm sure we can find the video and pull it up where he says that we're interested in forcing behaviors. And that's what we're doing. I want to get to that, but I still I don't want to gloss over cloud. Well, no, of course, I want to remember that and I got a George Soros.

34:01I'd love to not gloss over too. Okay, because he had a crazy interview in 2004. Nobody knows about and I think you get a kick out of it. So hold what you were just saying saying about Larry think we'll put that. Yeah, we're pilot Jamie. That's like to find is this news week. And what is it say about whether he's linked to Nazi Germany? This is I'll get down to here. There's a post. Get this. Look at that's not him. That's not his dad. So that's a fake photo. Right. So that starts there. Okay. There is he was he worked at this company. I sure vice. Mm -hmm. Yeah. Yeah. This is where like there's like there's no proof.

34:37But it also says it's not definitive. But there's no actual like it says Hitler's father on the other hand was the managing director of a subsidiary of Zurich based engineering firm. I sure vice the history of eugen's relationship with Nazism in general is complex. But there's no substantive substantive evidence of ties to high ranking German leadership, particularly Hitler. No evidence. A fact check published by accredited German journalist DPA used denotification records to uncover that Eugen Schwab was a member Schwab was a member of some national social organizations. But that alone does not prove prove prove any relationship to German high command or a belief in Nazi ideology.

35:23But wait a minute. But the the German national socialist organizations back then essentially were Nazis. Right. That is what it means. That's what it means. Like that's what Nazi means. Right. National Socialist. Yeah. So this is a weird sort of. It feels a little bit. Yeah. It's dodging right. Yeah. It says he doesn't have evidence of ties to high ranking leadership. But that he says he was a member of organizations tied to the party. Well, just not. But hold this. But hold this while the Escherweiss branch in Ravensburg, Germany, which Eugen managed used prisoners of war and forced laborers.

36:03It's not clear whether the company was forced to do so by the Nazis or because of a lack of workers. Wait a minute. You just that you just admitted 100 % that he's a Nazi because that's what Nazis did. They use prisoners of war and forced laborers. So they ran prison camps with with probably Jews. So what does that mean? That mean that's what the Nazis did. Are we arguing over some antics? Well, they are. I don't know that we are. But that's an incredible argument to say that he managed to do that. He managed a plant. He managed the branch that used prisoners of war and forced laborers. But we're not clear whether he's a Nazi.

36:48This is a weird article. It's super weird. Newsweek. Well, maybe newsweek was like you got to be real careful with what you said. I mean, it's a bit of a damning. I think they're just saying there's not proof that he was that close to him. Okay, okay, let's but this is weird. Right. They're discrediting it by saying maybe wasn't that close to Hitler's no proof. But what they're not discrediting is that he did exactly what was horrific about what the Nazis did in World War II. Yeah. And I saw the word plutonium up there. So the nuclear stuff that we were talking about is connected to the weird article.

37:27That's how much power is at the end of the day. Yeah, well, you have to write weird articles like that. Oh, well, there's no real proof that he and Hitler will be. Yeah, he was just a member of some national. Hitler was not unlike reports. His Hitler was not his top nine on my speech. That would be like you think that they would write the article like about me because I've said like make America great again before. But I've never met Trump. So like, would they write the article like James has never met Trump. No, I got an SPLC profile that sort of the other way around. I did you know I'm an extremist now, by the way, Jim.

37:59I think I am. Oh, well, I think I've been labeled that they put me in a category called general hate. So I sent them a, I sent a letter formally thanking them for the title. I'm general hate. Like it's like a war, you know, general. Yeah, I totally miss it. Anyway, I'm funny. Well, it's let's just ridiculous. You're, you're a brilliant guy. And you, you're pointing out really important stuff. Do you know what it's the one of the first things they go after me for on there is? It's like the second thing that they go after me that I made a series of tweets. So you're a comedian. You get it right.

38:32I made a series of tweets mocking George Floyd on January 6th. On January 6th. Yeah, I pretended that George Floyd is like, you know, leftist Santa Claus. So I was like, if you fight for justice for George Floyd, the spirit of George Floyd will bring you presents on January 6th. Oh boy. Just stupid jokes. I do. I totally had forgotten that I had done it. And then it was on my SPLC profile. I'm like, oh my god, these people jokes are on your well. Did you see about that Flemish guy who is a part of the government who's just got sentenced to one year in jail for sharing racist memes in a private chat.

39:09I saw that last night. Yeah. Holy crap. A private chat. So if you got like, you know, fucking I message chat group. Is that a private chat? Is it they're talking about that? Are they talking about social media platforms? Either way. Yeah, this guy shared racist memes. Well, that was like when Tucker went to Tucker Carlson went to Russia, which I'm kind of like, I don't know what that's about for sure, but Tucker Carlson went to Russia. And he finds out while he's there that the NSA is reading his encrypted signal chat. I have a theory about that. I don't think if I was the government and there was a bunch of these companies that do something like that, I would make my own company.

39:51Yeah, right. Of course. I'd infiltrate all of them. Yeah. I don't know what come on guys. It's not really encrypted, right? Yeah. Totally. Now the fuck do you know? I know a lot of people that trust those things. They'll say, wild shit on those things. They talk to me on WeChat or we have to go to my Facebook. Yeah, it's fucking get the fuck out of here, bitch. Yeah, let's make a WhatsApp group. Oh, yeah, that's that we chat. The one doesn't want to see. We chat. That's the Chinese one. Yeah. But Jamie, so what was the story behind that? Yes. I'm reading it right now trying to find out where they found what the tweets, what the memes were if they're any good.

40:25It says they were accused of using a chat group to exchange racist, any Semitic and other extremist comments. But I'm not fine with that. But is it, but they saying memes. The problem with memes is it could just be funny. It could be like the Jews in the tunnel in New York City. Yeah, right. It's something crazy like they're encountering gollum down there and that's a racist meme. It wasn't like the Pepe frog alone like a racist meme or something. It's like a frog. Exactly. But the thing is like you could take that frog and put a Hitler arm band on them. And now all of a sudden the frog is tied to Hitler.

40:55Yeah, exactly. Which is what they do. Yeah, that's exactly right. It's also people do use that frog for crazy shit for funsies. Yeah, because they're talking they're shit posting. Yeah, shit posting is totally a thing. And shit posting is a thing. And you have to understand these people don't even mean what they're saying. They're saying something out some of them might. But a lot of them are just making something that's so outrageously offensive that it's funny. Right. And they're doing it anonymously. And they're sharing with people just for the lows. Yeah, shock comedy. It's a whole new thing.

41:28And then you got some some dude, you know, that passes physical fitness test wearing a polo and some khakis like we've got we've got an extremist here guys. Right, you know, it's it's weird that physical fitness and an exercise and health is being tied to right wing extreme extremity now. Yeah, I saw your gym. You're totally a lunatic. I must be a lunatic. Yeah, but that's that was there's many times they've tried to push things like that. You're like, what is the motivation behind this is just for clicks and outrage. It could be is there like someone who's actually saying that it would be a good idea if we connected health and fitness to right wing extremism so that you would be scared to be fit and healthy.

42:11Well, that's the full you want to go full tinfoil hat. Who do you want to have a war with? Do you want to do want to have a war with Trump supporters or do you want to have a war with the people who wear pink hats and or or mad like our health ministers. Yeah, exactly. What do you which which ward do you want to go to the people that are unhealthy. I'll fight them all day long. Yeah, they're going to quit. Yeah, right. You don't have any training. Just walk up a hill. Like they're going to give you had to fight them from the top of a large mountain. That's when you make your base. No one's making it up there except fit people.

42:43I mean, that's probably what the reason why they put civilizations up high, you know, make it really hard to get them. Yeah, lots of advantages. This is stupid. It's a stupid thing. Everybody should be healthy. You fucking idiot. Like what what are you saying? Well, I'm going to I get to take the tinfoil hat back. I think there's a strategy. I call us the politics of compliance. And I think that we've gone through it with everything. In fact, I think it's the it's all they do. It's the same thing over and over again, right? Whether it's COVID, whether it's magas as deplorables, which worked kind of backfired big time, right?

43:16And then whether it's all the identity politics, whether it's the environmental stuff, even with this though, what they do. And this is the politics of compliance. I just did this for Robert Maloney. I mean, come speak at his international crisis summit. And I'm sitting there and I'm up to talk. It's like nine in the morning. I'm not awake yet. I'm not a morning person. Like what the hell am I going to talk about? And so I get an idea comes up. I had a politics of compliance. So what it is is that you start off by saying, look, we're going to have this glorious better world. But there are people who are keeping us from getting there.

43:46Right. So there are the people who want to move forward into the glorious better world. But then there's the enemies of the people who are dragging their feet, the deplorables, the climate deniers, the doesn't matter if the climate change thing is true or not because there's a label now, right? The Christian nationalists. There's a label now. The racist, the transphobes. So we could do that. We could have unity, but we can't have unity. You were making the sacrifice. You got the shot in your arm. You did what you're supposed to, but we can't open up society yet because these other people are dragging their feet or resisting.

44:16So you have to have ways then why, why the fitness thing, right? You have to have ways to identify who the people are that aren't going along with the program. So it's like you, you got blown up for this. You're like, well, I got COVID. I feel like shit. I feel really, really bad. Did you know by the way last time I was here, I went home with COVID, even though we did the test. You got COVID? Yeah, I went home. I had COVID. How'd you get it? You think I think from when I went out to dinner after this because I felt fine until I got home. So right from dinner, like a couple hours later, there was somebody at dinner that had like a cold or something.

44:46Oh, they got, but the COVID is like so I did I barely got sick. So I didn't know that it was like like the person I would have gone out to dinner. I wouldn't have thought I was sick. I didn't even say I really got really sick. That's part of the problem too. But the thing is that you became an emblem of the thing that you're not allowed to talk about, right? The Apple pectin, the horse paste, right? And so there's all those articles. That's why you got like all that drama. You got like kicked off stuff or whatever all happened to you. I don't remember exactly what happened, but you were you were the pariah man.

45:16Why? Well, one of the things I remember you talking about was health and fitness. Like I'm healthy. I'm fit. I got this set of drugs. I took it seems to work. I felt way better real quick. And they can have that if they're trying to create this dynamic that all the people who are staying home and wearing a mask and you know, cowering in fear primarily or later, get more properly complying to the pharmaceutical. That's why I call it the politics of compliance. Yeah. So all of a sudden you became an emblem of well, you know, maybe you should go outside and exercise sometimes. Yeah. And that's a huge problem for that group of compliant people.

45:54And if you can whip them up or create conditions with misuses of power like our many of our state governments and national federal government did Canada really did and say, well, we have to keep everything closed down for your safety. And we could open it back back up except disinformation, right wing extremists like Joe Rogan are out there pushing the wrong ideas. Well, in that case, you can get people to hate the person who's not going along with the program. That's why I call it the politics of compliance. This is what I could find about the flammish story. Okay. So Belgium's far right prodigy gets prison term for inciting violence.

46:29So it's going to be like a 2018. So I'll sort of walk you through. Okay. Okay. This is the sentencing that happened. You guys they showed him he got a year. Five other people in his group got suspended prison sentences. They are charges included hatred racism holocaust denial and reaching local gun law. It's the only notice of that. What is local gun laws that like depicting guns in a favorable way. Like what is their law? It could be that if it's a meme. That's why in that wild like gun law of meme. I love how good you're getting it picking apart. Or BS though it said here. It showed them posting pictures of themselves holding weapons saying they're totally ready.

47:13Oh, okay. So posting photos. Is it illegal to hold the guns? Like I want to know if they're illegally possessing the guns. Is that what they're saying with gun law? Or is it just photographs of the guns? This is the report from the 2018 documentary that got me about them. Some guy got infiltrated and got into their discord. I think is where they were sharing some of the so these are far right allegedly far right people. And I'm sure you are not showing the audience this but this shows some of the memes I guess. Okay. Showing ourselves as yeah, which ones are illegal apparently that Muhammad is a Lego puppet and then a Lego toy.

47:56And this is this what do you Islamic harassment reward the heroic man with sex? Obviously not to me when you go full gas.

48:09So these are problematic. You can be racist if there's only you can't be racist if there's only one race. Okay. That's that's like an anti -hitler. Like that with the guns. I might have been the problem just holding the gun. Maybe so here's the thing is that gun illegal there. I don't know which one could that's this that didn't let's go. Let's Google just pause for a second and open up a new tab and Google Belgian gun laws. I want to know if they have laws similar to some some countries that have a high population of people having guns firearms are generally not allowed in Belgium. But good such as switch blades and pepper spray are also considered a prohibited weapon.

48:52Okay. So you can't carry a gun click on that considers and carry gun Belgium see if there's any see what where it says it right there. Just click on it. Whether an arm is legal or illegal mainly depends on who owns it sells it or uses it while most people are prohibited from owning or using automatic firearms. They are not illegal per se. The armed forces in the police may use them traders may procure these arms for them and arms collectors can own them. So if these guys were an armed collector they could own them but that gun was an automatic weapon. I think. I'm not really a gun expert and I only got a quick glance at it but it looked like an automatic weapon at the very least semi automatic weapon could have been that large large magazine go to the photo again of the gun let me take a look at it.

49:38So either way it seems like unless you're a security person yeah that's an automatic weapon unless you're a security person it might not be it could be an AR could be a semi automatic weapon. I don't know but at the end of the day it seems like unless you're military or police you're not supposed to own that right. So that could be the gun law like they had a photo of it that that makes me feel a little bit better than if it's just like a gun meme the because what if there's a meme that'd be insane. Well those memes that they're those are insane that they're using the Hitler one as an example because it's really like showing that like Hitler was crazy.

50:18Like you can't be right this is my thing we'll have only one race so no one can be racist like that's fucking ridiculous. I mean that's one of the things that the SPLC accuses me of though is that I promoted the white genocide theory which that is not true but what are you going to do about these things. Well there's plenty of people that have said crazy things about white people lately that you're allowed to say that just try and not. That's the logic of CRT was played out to its conclusion that it would end in a genocide of whites which is a completely different thing that word if means a lot.

50:51If it was taken to its fullest extent I think there's also a problem with you know when you tell people that a group of people are responsible for things or a group of people like just completely composed of individuals with completely different lives. Everyone's got different experiences and we say that that group of people is either bad or that group of people is responsible for everything like as soon as you do that you allow other. That's right other is the number one problem we have tribally culturally that we can look at other human beings as if they're not us and this is what's going on in Gaza in Israel right now.

51:28That's what's going on with this guy I'm not going to defend whatever but this dude like the counter reaction eventually to relentless identity politics is for a different. The other side to start saying okay identity politics right or wrong what it does is it creates more of itself and it's like it's contagious. It makes people more racist yeah it does it does and when they feel like there's racism allowed against white people that there's this double standard then they get racist there's a lot of people that do that man and it fuels it it's fucking horrible. We should we should a bore racism with everything with all with all we should just treat everyone as individuals that's right.

52:07Any arbitrary power especially when it's applied corporately to groups we should oppose it the tendency it's in our state constitution the second article or whatever section one article one or I got that backwards article one section two is that the non resistance I think I can almost do it for memory the non resistance against arbitrary power is to be considered slave slave is absurd and against the good and happiness of mankind or something like that so we should resist racism's arbitrary power you don't know that guy this can color it's arbitrary to dislike him or to exclude him or whatever whether he's white whether he's black whether he's you know Hispanic it doesn't matter.

52:45Same thing with like sexism you don't know what that woman's capable of for sure let her try doesn't mean you change the standards right and so this is the pattern that has been exploited and this is where the double standards came from it's you should give us access and our sensibilities are like hell yeah we should give people access let him try let him in you know don't don't exclude people racism sucks homophobia sucks. The sexism sucks misogynist awful let him in but then what happens is they say well you're not accommodating us you're not accommodating so it's like firefighters like well we got a lower the standard or military we got a lower the standard so more women can pass the test well now we've got a problem right and so after you make the accommodation then you've changed the political structure and if you it's one thing if that's just about people but what it's like almost all this stuff seems to forget the manipulators and you know what I'm saying is that you're not going to be a woman and you're not going to be a woman and you're not going to be a woman and you're not going to be a woman and you're not going to be a woman and you're not going to be a woman and you're not going to be a woman and you're not going to be a woman and you're not going to be a woman and you're not going to be a woman and you're not going to be a woman and you're not going to be a woman and then what happens when it happens when it happens when it happens when it happens when it happens when it happens when it happens person dissolve in the earth is where it burns and it will definitely become like be a woman and that's sheer unprecedented and that's super positive.

54:09Fine, let's look at it. Some percentage, I would guess it's probably three or four, not very big of the population, just to throw a guess out there, because that's roughly where you start, what's the total number of psychopaths, borderline personality, and so on. It's about three or four percent of the population. They're gonna be like, oh, I can get away with this. Oh, I'm not gonna get in trouble if I bust some other kids head at school. I just have to sit in a talk circle and say, oh, I'm sorry, okay, whatever. And then it's all over and we've healed. Like, they're gonna game, there are people who will game a system.

54:39And it's like this kind of like empathy -driven, airy, fairy, if we just gave everybody money, there would be no crime. Nonsense is driving us off of a cliff. And it's causing these fights in our schools through terrible policies, like restorative justice policies. A lot of it's in criminals. I remember all these articles back a year or two ago. I don't know if they're still publishing it. It was like, if we just paid people not to commit crime, they wouldn't commit crime. Yeah, I've seen that. Like, what the hell are you talking about? It's like, have you ever done something edgy? It's fun. I'm not a criminal.

55:13It's a part of their identity. That, for real. Like, if you're in a gang, that's how you like validate yourself too. Wasn't there something they were trying to do this recently? They were trying to give people money to not commit violent crimes? There was like an actual policy that was being proposed. Somewhere. Like Maryland or something. Somewhere with nutty. Yeah. Like, what the fuck did you just say? And the root of it, it's like, if you don't have, everyone wants a meritocracy. We all agree to that. We want a meritocracy. We want the best people to end. We want competition, which is a little allows people to get better and it allows us to have the best products and the best thing and the best music and the best art.

55:53But what is this? I don't know. I think people money, it's not commit crimes. That's a pop topic. This is a Dream Keeper Foundation, Fellowship will pay participants. I think this is it. A new program out of San Francisco, aims to decrease gun violence by paying high -risk individuals at least $300 a month to stay out of trouble. Yeah. That just means don't get caught. That just means don't get caught. And also, how do you make your money? You 300 bucks is not gonna cover if you're selling it for us. It's gonna go especially. If you're selling math, you're making a lot more than 300 bucks. That's right.

56:25Like, what are they gonna do? That's ridiculous. But my point was where I was getting to is like, everybody wants a meritocracy. But if you can keep it so, there's no equality of opportunity. If you can keep it that way, you're never gonna really get a meritocracy, and that would be a better way to control it. Yeah, sure. I mean, this is full tinfoil hat. Like, the reason why all these social justice people are like so excited about pumping billions of dollars into Ukraine and billions of dollars into whatever's happening with Israel and Palestine. But zero talk about doing that to Baltimore. Zero talk about doing that to Detroit.

57:04Like Maui. That's the own, well Maui is a, you know, that's a different thing, but that is also another thing. But not if you're upset about it. But not if you're upset about it. Yeah, the crime. Like, hey, there's gotta be a way to fix this. There's gotta be some sort of a solution. But if you don't, if we never get, not in 10 or 20 years, never get to equality of opportunity, you're always gonna have a certain amount of disenfranchised people. You have a portion of your population for sure that's gonna be in trouble. That's gonna have problems. Then you always got solutions. You've always got, you've got opportunities.

57:39You've got like this little moving game. Yeah. If everything is even, and then it's just competition, and then America thrives to be the greatest utopian idea of what we would hope it would be. Well, then it's really difficult to control people because they recognize that freedom is one of the most important aspects of having this kind of amazing opportunity to do whatever the fuck you want. Brother, this is why I wear a tinfoil hat now all the time, basically, except I'm not really afraid of the radio wave, so I don't really wear a tinfoil hat at all. I'm more afraid that this is intentional in a lot of places.

58:12But who are we? But this is, we know in those cities, we know. But if they played it out this much, if they thought about it and said, you know what, we want more crime, we want more illegal news. And if we keep the chaos, let me keep passing laws. Let me get further down the road. If you read the Marxist literature, which is unfortunately my damn job, you can derive a number of different conclusions. One of these conclusions that you can derive absolutely is do you know what repels a revolution in a country better than anything? Stability, social stability. So if you can destabilize a population, then you can get them to crave a revolution, or you can, like with the Patriot Act, you can get them to a cent to sacrificing their liberties for security.

58:52So if you can destabilize an area, then you can cause them to want to have radical political change. We just saw this. This woman who's in the Fox News this morning, so I had to double check, but she's talking about, was she from Maryland? She's in the government. She says that she wants to, she wants to burn the country to the ground, so her ideology can rise out of it, out of the ashes. Right, so she said this publicly and her, she's the equity coordinator in one of these cities. If you can find it, Jamie, you can pull it up, I don't know. There's on Fox News, equity coordinator, burn city, rise from the ashes, you'll probably find it.

59:28So this, we know who's causing these crime problems. There's those DAs. We know who ran the DAs, who paid the money to run them, is the Open Society Foundation. They call them Soros DAs. We finally broke the spell that, saying that this very, very rich man and now his very, very rich son are using their very large amounts of money to do things that aren't necessarily great politically. Well, they used to be able to say, if you criticize George Soros, you're an anti -Semite and that was what they always went with. We got always went with that. Like you got to see this thing, I don't want to overload Jamie again, but in 2004 Soros gave an interview to the LA Times and you actually looked this up.

1:00:05I thought that can't be real. It's real. He said that he thinks he's a God. He said that he always suspected that he might be a God and he kind of controlled it for a long time. And then finally, finally, he just kind of realized he is and he kind of gave into it. Is it possible that he was doing exactly what you were doing when you were making jokes about George Floyd in January 6th? I mean, maybe I'm trying to think of a time where I would have talked to the Los Angeles Times in a deliberate interview and said, I'm, you know, I'm Zool. Maybe he was a little drunk and he was just like, why am I doing this bullshit interview?

1:00:38I'm worth $30 billion. I mean, he just talked some shit. He reads pretty intentionally, but it's possible. Maybe George Floyd was doing some shit posting to the LA Times. I mean, I would shit post. I would love to shit post these big journalistic outlets now, but 20 years ago, I don't know. Well, now they're all falling apart. If you want a shit post, you better do it quick. I mean, you know what I did in the past. I did my shit posting. You did a lot of shit posting. I did some epic shit posting. What was the thing that we were just looking up before that, though? Where we look, the Fox thing?

1:01:06Yes. Yeah, because like you should see this is for real. I was like, I thought this morning, I was like, I had an idea of what society should do. It's unfortunately, I took a screenshot and I can pull it on my phone with nobody to see that. Well, there's a lot of people that don't have anything, that haven't accomplished anything, where that sounds like a good idea. That's right. So if you can make these people, I'm just trying to find the video. My idea, so my ideology can rise from the ashes, the equity officer. Well, I mean, it's like, okay, like equity, but if you've created a whole industry based on equity, but also says, I don't want to work.

1:01:40I know what you were. Yeah, she also says, I don't want to work. She doesn't want to work. So we've got to ask the question, 100 % for real though, right? Equity official wants her ideology to rise from the ashes. What ideology is it that she wants to, it's the equity one, or what is that? Do you know the definition of equity? What is it? It is an administered system in which, in which what's the order I'm looking for? It's an administered system in which shares are adjusted so that citizens or participants are made equal. So it's not equality of opportunity. It's shares are adjusted so people are made equal.

1:02:11So that's what you and I go to the range and I shoot the bow and I suck, and you shoot the bow and you put it through the hole, then Jamie goes over and pulls my arrow out, moves it over three inches and sticks it in, and like, James tied you. I can't beat you, I have to tie you. Or we pull your arrow out of the bullseye, and we move it over and like put it like right below mine, and like the third or fourth ring out. Actually, I missed the target. Let's not brag about my Twitter account. It's worded slightly different. I can't wait for society to collapse so my ideology can rise from the ashes.

1:02:41What's different about that? Burn, I mean the word burn is different. Rise from the ashes? It says the same thing, that's what we read. No, they're in the Southern quote in 2020. So it's a different, Fox has stitched some things together here. Okay, so different quotes is already planning, been planning for how we will eat and live and grow after we burned it all down. Well, I think the idea is that like there's enough money if you take away the money from the billionaires and distribute it evenly, no one has to work. But yeah, that's right. It's like a 12 year old's idea of what to do with money.

1:03:15It's exactly what it is. And it's also like, what do you like phones? Okay, who do you think makes those phones? Who do you think designs those phones? Who do you think works really fucking hard to make sure that the new Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra is better than the iPhone? Who the fuck do you need competition? Yeah, the person who does that is somebody who's willing to lay it on the line for a huge reward if it works out. They want a yacht. They want a yacht. They want a yacht. That guy wants a yacht. That's right. He's like, I can see myself right now in the fucking British Virgin Islands, party with my friends on this yacht.

1:03:50That's what he wants. So that's why he's willing to work so hard. If you fucking get free money, you're not going to work that hard. And you're not going to get the Samsung S24 Ultra. No, you're not going to get that. As in the thing is not going to exist. It's not going to exist. Nobody has the drive to make it. No one's going to make it. You're going to be forced to have a, imagine that person who said that. Imagine if that person had to design electric cars, had to put together a manufacturing plant, had to figure out, imagine, imagine. Some fucking person who says, I don't want to work. I want to burn it all down.

1:04:23I don't want to work. So my ideology can rise. And you take them seriously. And this is a person that's in charge of, this is a thought person, a person who's in charge of ideas, and a person who's in charge of implementing some sort of a better system for society, for real. Yeah, no, an ideology is a word people don't understand. I had to read in this. It's a cult. That's the word I was going for. Thank you. It is. It's a cult. It's a cult. So what it is, ideology is a fancy word for a mythology that the society buys into. It has a direction and it has activity. It's a cult. What we're looking at is the dynamics of a cult.

1:05:00Everything will work out if everybody believes it. We know how it'll work. Nobody else knows how it'll work. It put us in charge. Obviously, when it doesn't work, somebody else's it fault. That's actually, do you know that that's actually, you can talk to people who still believe that Soviet Union could have worked out and they say the reason the communist countries failed? Because obviously, there are catastrophes. Hundreds of millions dead. Nothing works. They collapse. They say that it was because there are capitalist countries pressuring them from the outside that prevent them from working.

1:05:26So you can say, I've had this conversation. So it can only work if every country is communist and they're like, that's right. That's a global cult is what that is. That's not real. That's fantasy land. And that's the, I think, because equity means socialism as I just told you, I think that that redistribute shares to make participants equal. I think that that actually kind of shows that this is cult mentality that we're dealing with. It is cult mentality, but it's ingenious. This is what's ingenious. This is the ingenious aspect of it is that they've managed to cast such a wide net over what it means to be progressive, that they've included all these radical Marxist ideas that everybody dismissed forever.

1:06:15And they threw them all in with this gender stuff and LBGTQ stuff, and then they threw that all in with race. And then they threw that all in with immigration. And then somehow attach it to funding international conflicts. That's right. At the expense of the people, the poorest people who could benefit the most from that money. That's right. And using other people's pension money to fund a lot of it or to get it off the ground. And if you oppose it, you're fascist. It's kind of brilliant. It's sort of brilliant. It's kind of brilliant. Yeah. It's either intentional or we're just so vulnerable to ideologies which seems to also be the case.

1:07:01It's why there's so many different sex of religions, even sex of Christianity, the fucking Protestants, hated the Catholics forever. The what happened in Iraq with the Sunnis and the Shias. This is always the case. It's always the case. People have like really rigid ideologies and the punishment for abandoning them or the punishment for stepping outside is death. Yeah, that's right. You're fucking dead, you bitch. You're not one of us. You're not one. And that is what we're seeing in this country. We're seeing this weird leftist, progressive ideology with a super wide net that covers so many things, including all these industries that are set up to make it look like they want a better world.

1:07:48Where really they just want to dominate a sector of the market, whether it's green energy or agriculture or food or plant -based meat or any of this fucking psychoshit that they're trying to push all the time, they're doing it for profit and they're doing this super wide net of being a good person, being a progressive. That's why I call it neoliberal communism. And I say that the Deng Xiaoping character we were talking about earlier is like, he's the guy that nobody knows about, except I mean the Chinese do obviously, but we really need to pay attention to what he cooked up and how what they have, whether it's World Economic Forum or UN or the WHO or their God -awful treaty to the health sovereignty thing if you see what I'm talking about, right?

1:08:29What is that? Well, let me finish the thought. Okay, yeah, to it. They're copying that same model. It's neoliberalism, which is how do you get huge corporations to be able to basically get tons of money and have monopoly power and make it off of the government? That's why the Rockefeller guy would have been interested in all this. And how do you do it with a communist ideology at the same time? China is the model. We're seeing it build out in the West. This stuff like we now are seeing proof, it just came out the other day that the Chinese are like funding the trans stuff. They're like pushing it, right?

1:08:58I just wrote a book. I didn't even know that to put it in the book. I wrote a book about the trans stuff. It just came out on the 29th, called the queering of the American child to talk about how schools have been turned into like indoctrination centers. It all goes back to the not just Marxist, but Maoist strategy to make the world conform that politics and compliance to make the world conform to this new ideological vision that they have. And it's gotta be like, we were saying, it's gotta be religious to the people who believe it. It is religious to the people of the values. They even say that.

1:09:30Klaus Schwab said, you can't rationalize, or how did they say it? You can't rationalize values to the intellectual process alone it requires faith. We've all seen children that grow up in religious cults. We've all seen the horror stories of children that come from these radical religious cults. And they escape when they get older and they tell the story of the indoctrination and what all they believed. When I see a woman and she's got three trans kids, that is what I think of. I think of someone who is a full adherent and ideologically captured by this cult, to the point where they see value in having their child be a part of the LGBTQ movement because it looks good for them socially.

1:10:16It's like they have a flag on their fucking porch. And they wave their kids around and it's weird. And it's not everybody. It's not everybody. But it's not everybody that has trans kids or someone who thinks he's trans, it's probably gay. And probably if you leave them alone and don't encourage them to capture it. Or a young woman with trauma or autism. Autism going through her period. It's like what's going on in my body? I don't like it. If you have girls that's a traumatic experience for them, it's very difficult. It's confusing, it's weird. That's why we wrote this book, man. It's that the whole book is like queer theory is the doctrine of her religious cult.

1:10:55It's based on sex. It primarily targets kids. And it's got barely anything to do with gay people. Almost nothing. And so. Also this idea that the only way to fix what's bothering you is surgery. Surgery. Surgery. Or hormones. Oh my god. It's insane. Well, in Europe, they've already in the UK, rather, they've banned these hormone blockers now for children. Yeah, the NHS just backed off of that completely. It's like, okay, you're moved, United States, because this is serious. It is serious. And what scares me is that they have a socialized medicine system. And they can back off of things, I think a little bit easier than we can in America when they've opened up how many gender affirming care clinics.

1:11:35There's a path. And I mean, I don't know how many legislators pay attention to the show, but they should take it seriously. Missouri has kind of tread the way. A lot of these states, there's 26 states that have tried to ban transgender care so far. And they're getting sued. Of course, they're getting sued, right? Of course, they're getting sued. Some plaintiff comes in, the ACLU shows up with an army of lawyers, and they're like, no, it's civil rights, it's medically necessary blah, blah, blah. And then it's a battle in the court, and it depends on who the judge is. There's another way. And Missouri actually more or less stopped this stuff with one simple change to the law.

1:12:06They changed the statute of limitations for medical harm. So my thought is, if you're under 20, and you undergo some of this medical treatment, you have a 20 year statute of limitations. Anybody who gets the surgery done under, you know, surgeries, hormones, whatever, under 20 years old, they have till their 40th birthday, if they decide they regret it to file a malpractice suit, not to win the malpractice suit, but to file one. The statute of limitations in Missouri previous that was either two or three years, and they extended it, and I don't know exactly how long. And it basically shut it down.

1:12:38We could shut a lot of this down by, because America, like you said, works differently, we don't have socializing medicine, we could shut this down through litigation. And that litigation, all you have to do is open the, open the, what do they call rights to action. So, you know, let's say I'm in my 40s, so it's not like that, but if I'm 19 year old, or 17 year old, or 15 year old, like Chloe Cole was, and I go and I get surgery, say I get my breast removed or my, you know, genitals cut up or whatever. And then come my 27th, 28th birthday, I'm like, woof. I got talked into that, I shouldn't have done it.

1:13:13I feel like I was misled by my doctors. I want to file a lawsuit. Right now, usually you cannot. I mean, some of these detransition teenagers are suing, you know, Chloe was, and some of the, you know, Chloe, right, Chloe Cole? I've seen the story, yeah. So some of these detransitioners, it's horrible how they get treated, too. Oh yeah, like they're, people attack them, like they're tractors. Like traders, like, well, because they left occult. Exactly. Listen to how they talk. They talk like I was in occult. Like I was completely convinced I had other problems. This would solve all my problems.

1:13:43I was affirmed at every step. This love bombing. So in this, so there's this queer educator, which is a fucking weird thing to even say, right? His name's Kevin Kumishiro. And Kevin Kumishiro wrote his paper back in 20, or 2002 titled Against Repetition. And in this paper, he actually says that the point of social justice and specifically queer education is to lead children into personal crisis and then structure their environment so they resolve the crisis toward social justice. That's trauma bonding. That's cult recruitment. That should be a prison sentence. Whew. And they know they're doing it.

1:14:26They're leading them, I'm, they're leading them into personal crisis. It's like hard to even say the sentencing and you get mad. Because these children, but it's so crazy that we've always protected children from influence. We've always protected children from bad decisions. That's why you can't get a tattoo. No, you have to give our kids a kid's. They have to. Because they're soft targets. You're 100 % right, but they're after childhood innocence. They say that, too, there are papers against childhood innocence, saying that it's a social construct meant to protect some kids and not others and meant to preserve normalcy and white heteronormativity and all of this other crap.

1:15:02That's why the term minor attracted persons freaks me the fuck out. Yeah. When you're trying to normalize pedophilia, you're trying to normalize people want to fuck kids. That's crazy. And there's, and by the way, it's almost always men. Like you are empowering the creepiest of creeps. The creepy creeps. The monsters of the male species. The ones, if you want to talk about men like men being toxic, the most toxic. Yeah. You're empowering the zero point zero one for once. The ones infected by demons. Yeah. They want them to go fuck kids. You're empowering them by telling them that it's an identity.

1:15:45Yeah, and I'll tell you, queer theory has, it is actually, it doesn't not have limiting principles. It's opposed limiting principles on principle. Let me give you another definition. This is a book called St. Foucault, naming the Michelle Foucault, the postmodern guy. We made fun of back in agreement studies papers. And so Michelle Foucault is lionized in this book. And this is the book where queer in queer theory gets defined. David Halperen wrote it, 95 is the date. And it's, it's right there in the paragraph that he writes defining queer. It starts with these three words, unlike gay identity.

1:16:16Has virtually nothing you do with gay people. Why? He says, because that's rooted in a positive truth. You're gay, right? That's a truth. You're gay. He says queer need not be grounded. He says in any positive truth or any stable reality, it is whatever is opposed to the normal, the legitimate and the dominant. What? So normal and legitimate. I mean, they're always after the dominant. So we can just put that. But isn't that local? Because like if you're in West Hollywood, the dominant is gay. Well, they don't want normal, they don't like, they don't like that either. It's not about gay. So you'd have to be opposed to the gay.

1:16:54It'd be straight. They literally, it's, I hate using huge words on shows. It's homo normativity is what they call that. If you consider being gay normal as a normal part of society, that's homo normativity. It's as bad as heteronormativity. It's no better. Because again, it's real simple. We said it earlier, stability repelled revolutions. They need radical people. They need queer activists who want to destabilize the normal and undermine the legitimate every turn. Jesus. And that like, I don't have to have a timfoil half for this. We can just crumple that up and throw it in the trash. This is black and white in their literature.

1:17:26This is what they, they're like, hey, look what we're gonna do. Let's protect the boy lovers. Yeah. Galerubin 1984. I mean, you want the citation. Like, these people are dead serious and they are opposed to the idea. So this started by me saying, they're opposed to limiting principles on principle. What does that mean? It means, at some point, somebody's gonna say, you know what, you wanna hump kids? No. That's a limiting principle. We draw the line at kids. That's a limiting principle. They're opposed actually to anything that tells them no. Anything in the world, including the world itself, telling them no.

1:18:02Oh yeah, you know, you technically can't be a man who becomes a woman, but let's just chop you up until you're close enough. The world's telling you no, but we're gonna keep doing surgeries and hormones until it's kinda like yes. Jesus Christ. Dude, it's, you, I told, I know, I know you're probably not the biggest fan of Charlie Kirk, but I was on stage of Charlie Kirk talking about this. He wanted to talk about critical race theory for it with me and I'm like, damn it Charlie. Now I'm getting frustrated sitting there and I'm like, why would you say I'm not the biggest fan of Charlie Kirk? I don't know, I figured that, maybe you are.

1:18:31I think he's very smart. He's frickin smart. Nobody gives him credit for that. No, because they associate him with the white nationalist sort of right when he's a different guy. He is quick. He's not who they label him to be. He's very smart. He's very, very smart. And so Charlie and I were sitting on stage, and I'm getting pissed at him, right? Because it's like, I don't wanna talk about critical race theory again. And so I'm like, okay Charlie, we need to talk about queer theories. Like what's queer theory? And I kind of explain the normal thing. Like he's like, whoa, he didn't swear because he's a good Christian boy, but I'm like Charlie, let's put it real simple.

1:19:03Queer theory opens the gates to hell. And I think that that's the best way to put it. This stuff they're pushing on the kids opens the gates to hell. Of course, this is why I'm in trouble because I started saying okay, groomer, you know I got kicked off Twitter for okay groomer for like five months, till Elon brought me back. And thanks, Elon. But why was I calling them groomers? I get challenged on this. People drag me in these interviews. Well, you were part of that groomer thing. Well, there's a paper that they wrote. Everything I do is I read their stuff and I said something and people were like, that can't be real.

1:19:32Turns out it is. And so this paper is the drag queen story hour paper. It's called drag pedagogy. It's free access. You can go look it up. The title is drag pedagogy. Read it for yourself. It's written by a drag queen named Luma's hot mess and a trans educator named Harper Keenan. Came out in curriculum inquiry, which is a serious academic journal in curriculum for schools. And at the end, they say that they're talking about the family friendly aspect, right? The branding that it's family friendly. And what they say is that it's not so much that family friendly is to sanitize drag. That's not what it is.

1:20:11It's actually, and this is their exact word. So I asked people and they challenged me this. What word do I use for this? They say it is a preparatory introduction to alternate modes of kinship. That's a direct quote. Then they say a preparative introduction to alternate modes of kinship. Yeah. I don't know if you want to get that pulled up and on screen and show it, but it's for real. The paper's called drag pedagogy. It's easy to find. It's the first paragraph in the conclusion if you need to scroll. Then it goes on to say that the family and family friendly actually refers to a queer code for the queer family you meet on the street.

1:20:47There were words. I'm not exaggerating. The queer community. The you abandon your real family for a queer family. The last sentence in the paper says that they're going to leave a trail of glitter that will never come out of the carpet. You know I'm funny and I could make stuff up. I didn't make this up. I'm like, so these guys are like, you can't say, okay, groomer. And I'm like, what word do I use for that? And I've yet to have somebody tell me what word is better. Of course that's the word for the alternate mode of kinship. And they say it's all about queer world making. Same paragraph. Queer world making has always been a project based in desire.

1:21:26So for them, let's try to steal man this. Imagine if you're a gay person and you were picked on in school. You always felt out of place. There was no one that was there that you could turn to that could say, hey, it's okay, you're just gay. And you know, these kids are cruel, but the reality is there's a beautiful gay community that will accept you. Yeah. And to tell other kids, hey, this is just how this kid is born. And this is picking on him for that is no different than picking on someone for their skin color or where they're from. It's all gross. Don't do it. Yeah. And you could look at it that way.

1:22:10They wish that there was a path for someone like them. Yeah, I have three actual responses to that. So first, we're not talking about sitting down and having the, hey, buddy talk with your kid who just did a jerk thing. We're talking about drag queens in a classroom, which is a little bit more, which they call in fact a generative introduction to queer world making in the paper, which is pretty insane. But secondly, in the paper, the immediate section before the conclusion, the last section before the conclusion. So right before what I just told you, there's a section titled from empathy to embodied kinship.

1:22:44And that's their title for it. That's the title of the thing. And they explain that this empathy root is a marketing strategy. They use that for marketing to justify its inclusion, but it's real purpose is to lead children to discover queer aspects of themselves. So that's not what they're doing it for. That's not the purpose. So there must be another purpose. And what's the other purpose? I think it's a cult initiation ritual. I think the point of the drag queen is to get the kids, exactly what they say in the paper, start asking questions. Why is that man dressed as a woman? Do we always have to follow rules?

1:23:17Can we do whatever we want? Isn't this more fun? And they start asking the questions and having the conversation. And then the kids who show interest end up going off into the club after school where they get affirmed. And I think that's where the cult initiation's going on. And I'm a dead serious. I think the drag queen story hour was a cult initiation ritual for queer activism for our kids. But then let's do the medical approach. And I'm not talking about, I got a PhD in math. That's was my background. And so one of the things that I was shocked when I was learning math back in the 20 years ago was here's a question for you, just ask.

1:23:53Do you know why we don't do universal cancer screenings? Why everybody doesn't go to the doctor every year? Because of course they'd be able to make Bukku bucks off this, right? So wouldn't it be good if we did universal cancer screenings? Everybody goes, they get the check, whatever it is, universal mammograms, whatever it happens to be. There's a reason, there are a few reasons we don't do that. It's the same reason sort of that we don't just give everybody say riddle in because some kids have ADHD. But what it is is that if we tested everybody for cancer, that test has a false positive and a true positive and a false negative and a true negative rate.

1:24:26There's a called the specificity and sensitivity of the test. And if we screen everybody, what happens is you actually end up with way more false positives because there are way more healthy people than sick people and the some percentage of them turns out to be a far larger number. So that if you do that, what you end up doing is telling thousands of people per year that they have cancer when they don't. Freaking them out, causing them to rearrange their lives plus it's expensive. And then some of them will have a false positive twice. And depending on the specificity and sensitivity of the test, it can be almost three times before you hit 50 -50 as to whether you got a positive test.

1:25:03So imagine you go and you get tested for cancer, screened for cancer, and it says you have cancer. And then you get tested for cancer again, and it says you have cancer. And you go a third time and you have, but you only have a 50 -50 shot of actually having cancer because of the way the populations break down. You're gonna be shedding your pants. You're gonna rearrange your life. You're gonna make some bad decisions. This is, so what don't you do in the schools? You don't assume that a large population of the children are gay kids who are getting bullied and treat the entire population of school kids like they're gay kids who are being bullied.

1:25:34You figure out when somebody's being bullied and you deal with the person individually and you figure out when somebody's doing the bullying and you deal with the people individually. And we've known this since time immemorial until, in my opinion, we've reinvented our policies in the schools to do this broad cult initiation. We treat everybody like they're sick, which is exactly the opposite. So there's the paper itself lying about it. There's the logical understanding of it. But then there's also, you don't broadcast or universally screen to deal with low -prepensity sicknesses. It's just a terrible idea.

1:26:14Well, that's very logical. Turns out it was from PhD math program. So the logic is strong there. Jesus Christ. Yeah, because I was getting prep to teach statistics and it's like these are the things you want to teach people in a statistics class so they don't go make dumb ass decisions because they don't understand how numbers work. There's also this issue with the influence that people have on kids just in general. We're so flippant about who teaches kids. And it should be a really difficult job to get and it should pay really well. They, and it's almost, if you wanted to go full tin foil hat again, you would think by design, you would want the least motivated, weirdest fucking shitheads to be teaching your kids.

1:27:01Because you would ensure that their education would suck. And especially if those kids, if those people, if you push the type of people to teach that we're a part of this ideology that you're trying to push, then what's the best, well, these people aren't doing well anyway for the most part. They don't look super financially successful if they're looking to push these agendas in general. They're not like really excellent capitalists. So you could probably pay them less. And you can get these people, they want that job because they think they're a part of a movement. That's right. And so this has been something that's been going on for a very long time.

1:27:40There's a couple of explanations. One thing to say is even without the tin foil hat, right? Queer theory and its own, imagine that you have the hiring body, the administration at the school gets infected with queer theory. Oh, well, I don't want to, you know, that guy might like kids, but I don't want to like assume, right? You know, I don't want to judge him. It lowers the potential to say, wait a minute, ringing in this weirdo, who's throwing off red flags everywhere, might be a bad idea. Or in this case, I guess rainbow flags with the triangle cut out of it. That might be a bad idea, right?

1:28:10All of, queer theory overrides your common sense. So it lowers the screening potential. It just makes the whole, like it's like the fence is like wider open. So good people will make more mistakes when queer theory has come in. But then there's the fact that this actually was, a lot of people don't understand, we don't need a tin foil hat to understand that the universities are fucked up. Nobody does, look at him, holy shit. Harvard, you know, let's name some more universities. They're all messed up. And the fact is, there's a, I know I'm keep throwing out sources, but there's this book, I read, it's called The Critical Turn in Education.

1:28:45It was published by a Marxist at Iowa State University, named Isaac Gaudesman in 2016, 15, one or the other. And right from the beginning, one of the things he's explaining is that people with their ideology, which is called critical pedagogy, actually had captured our schools of education virtually entirely by 1992. That's the date the Marxists themselves say, this is when we got the schools of education. So I tried to explain this in this documentary that I've got coming out in May called Beneath Sheeps Clothing. And it's very simple. If you get the colleges of education, then you're gonna get the teachers.

1:29:23And if you get the teachers, then you get the kids. And if you get the kids in a generational strategy, you get the future. And that was, they own the schools. Like they own the manufacturing plant where we build teachers and administrators, they're called colleges of education. They have a virtual monopoly on producing them. And they have said, then their own words, that their ideology has run the schools, since 1992. That's, you know, if we're keeping track on our fingers 32 years ago. Well, this is what Yuri Besmanov talked about in that case. Yeah, that's why it's like, I say what I just said, and then Yuri and the trailer to that film, which is at the top of my Twitter, if anyone wants to see it.

1:30:02Let's see it. We go back and forth. Yeah, it's like right at the top after my school. Let's see the trailer. When does this come out? And in May. Most people are blissfully unaware that all this is going on. That's why I'm writing books and making movies where I could be going out and enjoying my life. Oh. Like I do like traveling around. I like getting to meet people. I've got, like I one of my, you know, I don't know if you know Tiffany Justices with Monster Liberty. No, well, yeah, this is it. But she says all the time, who knew we were gonna make so many cool friends in our 40s. Right. Is this the trailer right here?

1:30:31Yeah, with the blonde lady. That's Julie Beeling. She wrote the book, it's based on.

1:30:43Even in the future, nothing works. We'll see here. It's spinning. Oh, did I post it twice? I'm an idiot. Here's the thing about communism. When it comes knocking at your door, it doesn't say hi. I'm here to impoverish and slave and murder you. It says, I'm here to liberate you from oppression. I thought of myself as a advocate. I had no idea that I was being brainwashed.

1:31:14So the KGB agents would go into the version and rise in. This right. All of them is infiltrated. This was a rape of the body of Christ.

1:31:29When you take over the colleges of education, then you take over all the teachers, then you take over all the students, and thus you get the future. He said the ultimate objective of having government school was to destroy Christianity. Those were his words. People's war means to destroy the opposing country through unconventional methods and Christchurch and brag about it. You will take America without firing a shot. In other words, Marxism, Leninism, ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of American standards. Without being challenged, the result, the result you can see.

1:32:16Oh, that looks good. What is that going to be on? It's going to be, you got to deal with rumble, so it's primarily going to be on rumble. And we'll spread it from there. I was going to ask, it must be exclusively on rumble. I don't know that it's totally exclusive, because we're talking about that. Can you tube host something like that? Well, if I hope you can demonetize this thing. Let me just tell you tube what I think about that. I hope we do. I hope we can put it on YouTube. And I hope we get demonetized. And we'll put up a YouTube edit where we literally just put up the YouTube emblem over the scenes they don't want shown and do the Charlie Brown won't, won't, won't, won't, won't voice so the people they don't want to hear will put up a YouTube edit with a link to send to people to the real thing.

1:33:00Like to hell with them. Like we can get around this censorship and turn it to our advantage these days. It's very bizarre that they would choose to demonetize something that someone's legitimate opinion about a very worrisome trend. I mean, this is something that people should discuss. And to be able to discuss these things, especially in this wonderful world of open communication that we find ourselves in, you should be able to have both perspectives. You should have the perspective of the queer theorist. That's right. And you should have the perspective of the people who say this is where all this comes from.

1:33:30That's right. And if you don't do that, then you limit information. And some of that information, especially the stuff that you're talking about that seems to be absolutely true and provable, that's, you're letting that stuff go through because it opposes your ideology in that by definition makes you a cult member. That's exactly, right? So the cult, and I don't know if you know who Robert Lichten is. Robert Lichten is, he's kind of weird now. He's still alive, but he was like a, you can talk about gangsters doing infiltration. This dude was in Hong Kong in the 1950s. And he started interviewing guys that were going through Mao Zedong's brainwashing prisons.

1:34:06And then when we get thrown out of China after they'd get out of the prison after three, four years of getting brainwashed, sort of interviewing them, like, what did Mao do? How did he, like, literally the title of his book that he wrote off of this is called Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism, a study of brainwashing in China, which is she now in Mandarin, I know a little Mandarin. And so the idea is that they were doing what Mao called ideological transformation or ideological remolding in these prisons. And he wanted to know how it worked. What's the psychological dynamic? And he said there are eight primary characteristics.

1:34:36And God only knows if I could rattle off eight things from memory. But the first one is mealoo control. In other words, you have to completely control the environment of the people that are within it. And so you can't let them have outside information. You can't let them get near people who are raising uncomfortable questions. You have to say that those people are a danger to what Mao called democratic centralism, or we would say it's a Joe Rogan's a danger to our democracy. I think they said when you took Ivory Mechton or something like that. Right? And so you have to control the environment people are in.

1:35:04And then there's other things like mystical manipulation into a sacred science and all this other. There's eight of them he has, which is finally at the end, which it's got doctrine over person. But he calls it like the expiration. It's not that it's not the right word. But it's the dispensing of the person. So the people who go along with it who are in the cult are treated as people. And the people who don't go along with it have to be treated as non people. And that space Mao Zedong gave a famous speech in 1957 where he actually said to not have a correct political orientation is like not having a soul.

1:35:42So you're no better than what capitalist running dogs. You're no better than the dogs. Well, I mean, we like dogs, but you know what I mean? You know how he would have meant it. And so it's like you're no better than an animal if you don't go along with this. And that's what you're saying. That's a cult. And all this bears the hallmarks of a cult. And it feels like that is a natural pattern that humans fall into. And I think particularly if you're not religious. I think one of the things about religious people's, they've already got their thing. And hopefully it's one that promotes good values and it's a good thing.

1:36:17But there's a part in the brain that wants that thing. And atheists, they don't have a religion. And so they find a social religion. That's a social religion. That's exactly right. That's exactly right. So they find it in their social circumstances, politics, economics. And it always goes demonic when they do that. I've been spending a lot of time, thanks to Charlie primarily, Charlie Kirk. I've been spending a lot of time paying attention to the tenants of Christianity and studying it. And it's got a lot of good advice in there. But you're 100 % right that if you try to lack a religion. And the primary thing with the religion, why?

1:36:52So if you lack a religion, then it'll get filled in with other things for very many people. I think there's a small percentage of people for maybe that doesn't apply, but... There's a spot in your brain for it. But the thing that, why do they go after Christians and Jews so hard everywhere they go? And the reason is because they are completely committed to it. They're not... When you say, you know, they already have their thing. For Christians and Jews, that's not how they think about God. It's not their thing. That's something that's above everything else. But the Muslims... Well, Muslims too.

1:37:24But Muslims, Islam is a little bit different because it's got a political element worked into it. And I'm not trying to like throw shade. I'm just saying that with all there is no... The state is never above God in Christianity and Judaism. Ever. The state and God are somewhat intertwined or can be in Islam. But it's not... So they're not quite identical. But it's true. The God is above state. No question. So when the state shows up and says to you, Hey, you're going to do XYZ or else. And it goes against your religion. If you're a Christian or Jew and to... Many... If it's not Islam, a Muslim, you're going to say, no, I have a higher duty.

1:38:05And it's not to the state. And if you kill me, I'm going to a better place so I don't care. And that... The enemy of totalitarianism in a way that nothing else is. The confusion, virtues of China don't have that. Buddhism actually kind of doesn't have that. But you can't tell the CIA this because anything that co -op the churches. Well, that's what the documentary is actually about. It's how the co -opping of the churches to place in the Soviet Union actually. Yes. And so, and then how... Okay, so you put it on the table. I think that's what this whole stupid Christian nationalism thing. I think that's part of the purpose of the Christian nationalist dialogue.

1:38:41And I'm not exactly a Christian nationalist. I'm probably one of the most vocal opponents. You think it's like Agent Provocatour's? That's right. I think that they want to recreate something that looks like Charlotteville. You know the very fine people on both sides incident. Or like January 6th, they get somebody to do something stupid or violent. Or maybe they just run a narrative. Well, there's always been people that when they see these well -uniformed people walking around with Nazi flags with their face covered, they're like their feds. Uh -huh. People always think that. They always think that.

1:39:09Which is a terrible thing to think that your own federal government is involved in doing something to stir racial hatred. Or at least give the image that racial hatred is being stirred and then connect that racial hatred with people that just don't believe what you believe and believe in God. Right. And that's why this Christian nationalist thing, you know, it's a leap that's not very far in most minds from Christian nationalists to white Christian nationalists. Right. And it's so easy for them to say then that independent conservative churches, and I would say those in particular, are a hot house for domestic extremism.

1:39:44And then they start cracking down on that. Maybe it's the FBI agents are going to church every week and they're writing down every single thing you say or every single thing you do. Maybe it's that, you know, they start messing with the IRS status. Maybe it's that they create other pressures, um, was zoning or whatever else to make it so that independent church is very difficult to do. Because what they had in Soviet Union, and I learned it, I actually didn't know it until the Timothy guy, the, uh, the Russian guy in the film, was telling us they had what's called a registered church in the Soviet Union.

1:40:11So the Soviets didn't get rid of the churches. The Soviets created a fake church that was like, you know, Lenin Stalin, Jesus. They have a church in China. It's called the Three Selfs Church right now where it's like, if you see pictures of it, it's super weird. It's like there's a cross and there's like, Mao. And it's like President Xi. And it's like, what am I looking? It's so weird. What is it called the three what? Three selfs church or three self church. I'd have to remember if there's an essay. Oh, I need to see this. And so they have a fake church and they funnel people into it and then they persecute everybody that's got religion outside of the fake church.

1:40:47And that was really the impetus for making the film. And we said, well, we've got to talk about the schools too. Well, is that what's fueling the Weger Muslim thing where they're... Well, Communists don't like competing religion. So they also do like slave labor. And they like making examples of people to keep things under control. So if we just take a face value that the C and the CCP stands for Communists, this is perfectly in line with the way Communists behave. That's what they would do with the Christian dissidents in Soviet Union. They sent them into Gulags where their job would be like to carve a canal out of bedrock, working themselves to death and freezing conditions.

1:41:28And then only for not only the canal to not actually be deep enough or wide enough to do what it had to do. So it's demoralizing it failed. But then it drains whichever, I forget which lake it was, Aral seer, whatever gets drained because their idiots, they don't know how things work. They think that it can be the masters of nature. But that's what they would do. They would round up these dissidents and send them off to Gulag. Gulag wasn't a concentration camp like the Nazi said. It was a reeducation camp where they were trying to reeducate you through doctrine combined with hard labor. And if you died, you died.

1:42:01Jesus Christ. Yeah. And that's where Communism leads to kids. That, and that's where Communism leads to. And that's why other places too. So here's, you know who I feel bad for? And they get real mad. I did this at Northwestern. I told them this to their faces. I did a talk at Northwestern University last year. And they let a bunch of woke protesters in and they carried on and yelled at me. And like we're like mocking me doing the loser sign on their faces while I was talking. That's really effective. It's hard to keep your train of thought while that's going on. Yeah. And they started cheering when I started talking about Mao so they know what it is.

1:42:35And I was like cheer for your dictator. And they started clapping and it was like really creepy. But then, so I did this at Northwestern and I told them something and they laughed at me. But okay. So Mao created in the mid 1960s a thing called the red guard. People all know about this. It was young people. It was mostly college and high school students. But it went down to little kids. She Van Fleet was in China during the red guard. For example, and she's got that book Mao's America out talking about what that was like surviving that. And the red guard went around destroyed property, harassed, turned in people.

1:43:09They ended up rounding up the sitting president of the CCP, Liu Xiaochie, pulled him out, humiliated him, kicked him out to the countryside to die. Right. He came out. He said, he's a, he's a chairman of the CCP. He comes out. He says, I'm not a citizen. Can I not speak? And these teenagers by the thousands were out there protesting him and said, no, you're not a citizen. You're not a person. You cannot speak. And they ended up guarding him off to die in the countryside. Mao takes his power back. So that's the end of 1967. Took about a year and a half. So as soon as Mao gets back on the throne, we cornered around in 1968.

1:43:43What does he do with that red guard that was so loyal that God invented? Did he give him trophies? Does he give him a spot in the party? No. He said the red guard has become too radical and too left. So he rounded him up and sent him off to the gulag to die. And some of them were so brainwashed, they said shit like going to work with the peasants in the fields will make my brain even more red as they got on the trains. So I told these kids at Northwestern, I said, listen, you woke kids. Cheer all you want from Mao. This is your future. Stability is what repels revolutions. So if they need destabilizing forces now, that's you.

1:44:18But once they destabilize things enough to take power, that's a Mao phrased it. That's a new phase of the revolution. That's called building socialism. They don't need destabilizers anymore. They got to get rid of you. And I'm like, if you win, you get your revolution, you lose. And I feel bad, I honestly, I mean, I talk big, but I feel bad for these kids. I got caught up in this because if I'm not, if I'm right, that's their future. It's probably a digital gulag, not a physical gulag. Maybe they're going to have to go farm corn or something, but probably they're going to have to sit in their apartment.

1:44:51It's like 200 square feet with their Oculus on pretending that they're going nice places as long as they fill out enough surveys to give data so that whatever the data machine is can collect the data that justifies. That and sell their by participating zero in real life, they build up carbon credits that the rich people can buy because this whole fake carbon economy or sustainable economy that they're trying to build around it. I think that's really, I like, I legit think that that's these kids' future. They go woke, they break themselves, they go on service of revolution, and then the revolution turns around and eats them too.

1:45:23Snake eating its own tail. Jesus Christ. And I'm like, I wish I could wake them up, but man, they're in a cult. I seriously think they're disposable. And now people are going to hear what you're saying that it's going to cause a stir, and then more people are going to share it and be aware of it. And that'll help some. But the problem is there's not many people like you out there that are saying this in an articulate and very well informed way where it resonates with people. And then realize like, oh, this is what's going on. I think I'm just trying to be a good person. I think I'm trying to be open -minded.

1:45:56I think I'm trying to be kind and compassionate and really I'm in a cult. I mean, I've had it happen. I've had it happen. I had this one young lady at one point reach out to me and say something I said made her so mad that she went and she blocked me on social media and she went months trying to prove that I was wrong and then ended up concluding that I was right and it de -radicalized her. Well, the the problems people are so married to their ideas that it's almost impossible for them to look at something that is opposed to it without being angry at it or trying to pick holes at it. Instead of just like objectively trying to analyze it.

1:46:31Is this possible that this is true? And isn't it something that governments and dictators and kings have done throughout history? Haven't they done things in order to initiate more power? Haven't they had false flags? Haven't they created conflict that wasn't real in order for them to gain more power or start wars? Yeah, they have. What would make us think they don't do that anymore? And if you're doing it in this digital battlefield that we're all currently involved in, that's what you would use. You would use social media platforms and you would control them. Like the FBI was trying to control Twitter.

1:47:07Yeah, they were infiltrating social media organizations to suppress legitimate opinions and thoughts of actual experts. Yeah, and they were doing that at the behest of the government, which is fucking terrifying. Yeah, and illegal, but they found workarounds and you know, this is a huge, huge risk. But I mean, look for these kids or whatever. Like let's look at three populations and say maybe this will wake somebody up. How are they going to treat you? So the three populations are the revolutionaries themselves, the communists will just look historically and then say American classical liberals, right?

1:47:44And then Christians. So what's going to happen? So you go woke, right? And you're in this. And then the revolution succeeds. What if communists always historically done? They always eat their own. Yuri says Yuri Besnimo says that too, right? He says don't deal with those political prostitutes. They know too much will line them up against the wall and shoot them. That's what he says. So your chances are bad at best under the revolution. What, what, what are American, you know, good old Americans going to do if you know, you come out of being woke? Well, actually we don't have to talk about the revolution.

1:48:16What are other woke people going to do to you if you stop being woke? They're going to treat you like a traitor. They're going to hate you. They're going to destroy your social life. Maybe your professional life. What are normal Americans going to do? Like cool, you do you, right? Live your life. Glad that you got that sorted out. What are Christians going to do? I forgive you. That's literally their religion. I forgive you. If you repent, come join our church if you want to. If you don't, I understand. Right. You're welcome. No big deal. Like if they're Christians who are Christians, I mean, I know that there's these Christian fascists dudes who are thinking they can pound their chest and like be big tough guys.

1:48:49But even the other Christians are like, that's not biblically sound. Like Jesus didn't do that. Right. So it's like the woke are going to treat you like crap if you leave. So you're locked in. If you come over and be an American again, just a normal American dude, we're going to be like cool. Welcome back. And the Christians are if you go and like repent of your errors or whatever you decided to convert are going to be like, they're going to celebrate you. They're going to be like praise God. It's night and day different. So revolutionaries destroy their own and everybody else, like you're saying, like just normal people who value like what what what productive thing can you do?

1:49:26Love you. Great. Welcome. Are completely the other story. Well, that's an ideology to live your life by the problem is if that ideology gets manipulated by the people in power as well. It's all dangerous. It's all dangerous because it's just what human beings do when they get into power. And if there was a radical right wing religious sect that was in control of this country, we'd be just as scared. Yeah. As if there's a radical left wing progressive woke organization like there is currently. Joe, that's the history of the 1930s right there in Europe. You had the communists who were screwing everything up and everybody was scared of the radical left.

1:50:08And what was their answer was fascism. I read all this Mussolini a couple of months ago. I was like, well, I better read the other side. And I'm like, this guy is he's supposed to be the answer, but he's making an idol of the state. Yeah. Like the state is God in both situations and who are you? You're a subject is who you are. Yeah. You know, my friend Duncan Trussel when the George Floyd riots were happening in California. He was like, dude, we're going to get a radical right wing president. Those as thought is like this is what's scary to me. That's scary to me. Yeah. That's just that's as scary if not more when when Christians, the really crazy ones that we were talking about that don't represent the actual teachings of Christ.

1:50:47Yeah. When those people think that there's like a holy war that they're a part of and that you know, they have to oppose all the other people and they're the ones who get to enforce the rules and they're the ones who get to enforce what people say and can't do and if you say God damn it, you go to jail for a year. Yeah. That kind of shit's real. It is. And that's that's what you see in some countries that have radical Islam. That's that which you see in some countries. Right. Art open societies air quotes. Well, I mean legitimately ones not, you know, you know, George Horos is weird fantasy about it.

1:51:18So it's like that's that's so important for people to understand because the the line, you know, Solcheneachin said the line of good and evil cuts through every human heart. But so does the line of tyranny than that people who are afraid or they're angry or they feel like they've been robbed or cheated or oppressed can be radicalized really easily and become very angry German. German World War II. Right. And what a lot of people need to understand is that if we put our tinfoil hat back on and we believe that there are people pulling strings. I promise you, they do not care whether a radical left or a radical right breaks the constitution as long as the constitution gets broken.

1:51:58Well, especially if you can get the radical left to behave in a way that was completely opposed to what the radical left was like 20 years ago. The full trust of the pharmaceutical drug companies support of the military industrial complex support of international wars as long as they're being supported by the Democrats huge banks. It's like I'm sure Larry think has best of intentions. You know, it's like what are you talking? Was Larry was Larry think no Larry Silverstein was the guy who owned the big conspiracy theory about world trade center tower. Oh, yeah, something like that. No, Larry think owns black rock.

1:52:35Right. That's right. Yeah. I get my Larry's confused. Yeah. Well, the there's a lot of Larry's. But the idea that we could live in this world where if this stuff takes over that eventually didn't come for you. It's so silly. They keep they eat their own every if it keeps going further and further down what you thought was acceptable and it changes the norms and it just keeps going. It's just like with the S. G. They can change the rules tomorrow. The real danger of ESG isn't that it's stupid and that it's control. It's at its arbitrary. Somebody in some room. Maybe it's Larry think maybe he's got a little committee.

1:53:10I don't know. It gets to decide that today Elon Musk is okay with ESG and then tomorrow we bought Twitter and is for free speech and now he's not okay with ESG or that Hal Burton is bad and now it's good. Like overnight somebody gets to decide so maybe what you know the Hootry we stopped talking about the WHO and I talked about that. They're in May at the end of May. They are the WHO is meeting it's some kind of an assembly and they are deciding upon whether or not the WHO will have total they just screwed up one pandemic and then they say that they need to have total control of pandemic preparedness and public health.

1:53:50But the thing is is they it's not even just about diseases right because we know about like they screwed up COVID it was total global tyranny. Imagine if they had the power where there is no Florida there's no free state there's no difference between Texas and California. It's all whatever the World Health Organization says there's no difference between Florida and Canada or there's no Sweden which you know did something different everything has to be on the same page. But then they go further and they declare other things matters of public health like gun violence is a public health threat racial injustice inadequate food systems.

1:54:22It's a it's a it's literally a recipe for them to be able to declare total total tyranny but particularly over matters anything that they can can can can skew as a public health. And so one of the things that they consider to be another kind of pandemic that's a public health risk is misinformation and disinformation. So it explicitly calls for censorship of what would be misinformation and disinformation. So now all of these hundred and whatever 93 or whatever his country's are supposed to sign over to the World Health Organization the ability through a treaty that's not being ratified in the Senate like a treaty.

1:55:00It's probably Joe Biden will do it as an executive agreement rather than as passing two thirds majority in the Senate. So we have this treaty now the hands over the control of the states and of the United States as a federal entity to the World Health Organization which is led by I mean Tedros is openly a Marxist like what the hell's going on with that. Where they have this total blanket control over anything they can declare public health including misinformation and disinformation one of the things they say and I don't know if it's in the proposal or if it's in the documentation around it. Is that we have a pandemic of too much information.

1:55:39We have to limit how much information that people actually are getting and this is like that's like living in China. This is proposed as any country signed off on this. I think Canada is like already gung ho on it but I think the meat I don't know exactly how it works but I think the meeting is at the end of May and there is no full signing off until the meeting at the end of May. So we are like 11 weeks to if for example if we could get just make it through you know whatever Congress or whatever apparatuses where it has to be ratified in the United States as a treaty according to the Constitution.

1:56:14It's dead in the water for the US because the United States two thirds of the senators are not going to go for this unless we're in a lot bigger trouble than I think we are 50 50 wood. The fuck is going to go for that Joe Biden or whoever tells Joe Biden what to do. Yeah whoever gives Joe Biden his shots. What do you think cocktail they got him on when he goes and give those speeches. I don't know but it's got to be something good. I want to know. I really want to know. I want to know what he's doing. Dude I barely catch up to you on baby IVs of NAD plus Lincoln. I'm not ready for these cocktails.

1:56:50Well I mean whatever they give him must be extraordinary because you could tell he's ramped up. Oh yeah totally ramped up. Yeah he's ramped up. And otherwise doesn't know where he is. It's so strange. It's one of my favorite you know Trump whatever else he's funny. One of the favorite things I think I think I know maybe not the top five favorite things he ever said was he was in an interview and they said what do you think Joe Biden and he said Joe Biden doesn't know he's alive on TV. Yeah. It was the funniest thing. Oh the Trump's hilarious. He does speeches and he does stand up in them where he did like his impression of Joe Biden not know where to go.

1:57:25Have you seen that? You gotta see this bit because I swear to God it's like a fucking comic. He's doing this impression of Joe Biden. He always does this thing. He always does this thing. Like you watch him like the guy's a comic. He's hilarious. Well he's been on TV forever. He knows how to shoot back. He knows how to talk shit. He knows zingers. He knows how to work a crowd. So you think about it. If he is a smart man regardless of what you think about him you gotta realize the guy's been very successful right. Yeah. Don't lie. So this guy is also hosted the apprentice forever. He's been on television forever and then he goes on tour.

1:58:03So he starts doing stand up for essentially for four years. Yeah. He's been doing stand up without the job as the president or at least three years. And then before that there was four years during the time he's president. He's kind of doing stand up. Yeah. And then before that it's a year and a half that he's running for president that he's kind of doing stand up. Yeah. So you've basically got a guy who's been doing stand up for nine years. Put it off for the beginning. But if I walk left there's a stair. And if I walk right there's a stair. And this guy gets up. Where am I? I mean he's looking dude stand up.

1:58:48Where the hell am I? So now new records are being set like gasoline. Gavin has become Crooked Joe Biden's top serigate I think because he doesn't think Biden's gonna make it. That's why he's doing it. He doesn't think he's gonna make it and it won't be him so easy. He's gonna have a big fight. However, because there will be a lot of Democrats competing is gonna be very interesting. But let's see. Some people say Biden's gonna make it. Does anybody think he's gonna make it to the starting game? I mean the guy can't find his way off of the stage. Look here's the stage. It goes a little further than that.

1:59:30I've seen this stupid stage before. I've never seen it. But if I walk left there's a stair. And if I walk right there's a stair. And this guy gets up. Where am I?

1:59:50Where the hell am I? Where am I?

2:00:02Nice, terrible. You know I much tougher than him than I used to be. At a respect for the office I was never like. He's the most corrupt president. The most incompetent president. But when they indicted me and then again and again and again, I was never indicted. Now I'm setting records. Al Capone was not indicted so much. Al Fons Capone. If you looked at Al Capone in the wrong way he'd kill you. He was not indicted like me. I was never indicted. I didn't know when they taught me at the Wharton School of Finance. They didn't talk about indictment. No it's a disgrace what's happening. The weaponized elections have done everything.

2:00:42I mean these are very bad people. But I used to talk relatively nicely about them. I wouldn't go out of my way. I wouldn't say the things I say now. Now I'm just all in because these people are bad and they're dangerous. How we have to stop it. Okay that's not it. There's a thing where he does a thing about. He's probably doing it at multiple speeches. Yeah yeah yeah. He talks about who's like pointing at somewhere. But it's not like that Wharton thing was pretty good too. It's pretty funny. It is kind of crazy. Only times they've indicted him. Yeah. It's pretty wild. I actually hear like I fly a lot.

2:01:15So I'm on planes a lot and sometimes people talk. And they like I've heard several times people are like well I'm a Democrat. But I don't know why does this keep happening. It's kind of crazy because it seems like what happens in ban republics. Uh huh. But just somehow or another it's okay. The exact same thing. Well because protecting democracy. Well did you see when that guy from Shark Tank, Kevin O 'Leary, when he was discussing this whole thing, is like you're going to ruin real estate development in New York. People are not going to want to do real estate deals there. Because this is how they do it.

2:01:50Yeah. When they say my building is worth $400 million. You're supposed to say no it's worth $300 million. Here's a loan on $300 million. Like to say that that's fraud when he paid the loans back. Yeah. This is a credit. You mean that is like the epitome of like what are you doing? Like what are you chasing? And what have you not chased? What have you not chased down? Can we go over what you have not chased down? And you're chasing this down? Is it possible that you're doing this because this guy's running for president? Right. Because it kind of seems like it's in the world. Yeah. It looks real suspicious.

2:02:23It looks real like you're trying to prosecute your political opponents. With these gigantic, let's just change with these gigantic, you know, I don't even know what it is a settlement. It's not $360 million. That's insane. It's a lot of money for someone that does, where's it go? Because there's no victims. Right. It's a problem. Like Elon tweeted that. Yeah. It's like, okay, where does it go? It goes to her brag sheet is where it's just kind of bonkers. And then you get the fucking Georgia one with that fanny lady. Yeah. The ladies in trouble. She's in a trouble. She's in hot water. She's in real trouble.

2:02:58She's in real trouble. I was actually, I was actually in Fulton County the day where Trump came in and got indicted and did his mug shot or whatever. It's pretty wild. I mean, it's just nothing. There's not a story, but I was there, not at the courthouse. I was just nearby. And I was like, holy shit. I came here on this day of all days. But yeah, she's in trouble. She's host. The whole story is amazing. I was here on the trial getting sassy.

2:03:24The seer on the stand getting sassy and the seed that her explanation was cash. She keeps a lot of cash around that. I was like, where did you get this cash? Yeah, really. What do you have so much cash to pay for all these vacations and all that? You paid them back? Okay. Yeah. And. What? I was like, that's like another, it's like a little kids' explanation. Oh, I paid them back and cash. Yeah. But I just had laying around. I just happened to have it, you know. Well, the idea that it's a black thing, too. I could kind of. That's what I was going to say. It's a cash round. They tried to come out and say, well, this is, you know, they're scrutinizing her because she's a black woman.

2:04:00Everybody, this is encouraging, though, because like two years ago, I think that would have worked. Well, now it's like people like stop. The other thing she tried was I am not about to emasculate a black man. Mm -hmm. What does that mean? That is not an answer to a question. That is not an answer. But that is a, that's a way to throw up that race card and get out of this question. That's right. Get out of jail for a gas. Emasculate a black man. Look, he just happens to be black. We're just talking about what you did with the money. Yeah. Like tell us about the money. Who the people are. Just who did the money.

2:04:27What the fuck happened here? Yeah. Like what's going on? I call it the iron law of woke corruption. It's a wild. Totally. It's so wild to see. It's just very strange. And it's very, what, here's what drives me crazy. Like how is, how is all this DEI stuff getting into airplanes? Like. Yeah. Isn't that scary as hell? You not, isn't United run by a drag queen? Well, he did that at least drag. He just got Kirby's the guy's name. Um, which sucks because I fly and you knighted a lot. Bup. Yeah. And, um, but don't you want to make the absolute best people regardless of their sexual orientation, their gender, their color, their race, the very best people that you can get to fly the fucking planes?

2:05:14I do. And fix the fucking planes. Wouldn't you like, I'd like it to be sweet if we had the best people for the job? You want to put the tinfoil hat back on? I got an explanation. Okay. Okay. So earlier, I said that the goal is to degrow the West and facilitate China's rise. Okay. So what's happening? Boeing 737 Boeing 737 Boeing Boeing Boeing Boeing. We see all this DEI stuff at Boeing. We see all these problems. We just see this guy that committed suicide. The whistleblower. The whistleblower. Yeah. And Boeing who was saying some deep stuff like that they were intentionally fitting bogus parts.

2:05:50I don't know if this is true, but this way he was alleging. And then all of a sudden he, you know, decided there was a good day to kill himself right before his deposition he was supposed to go to. And so I mean it's weird timing. But what's going to he saying that that Boeing could be construed? Let's suggest as though it's deliberately committing suicide as an organization. It's cutting corners. It's locked in by this ESG DEI stuff. That's the easy question is why is DEI because ESG? It's the SNESG. But little do most Americans realize in addition to scaring the hell out of people and getting people to fly less.

2:06:31China just released a new jet like two years ago called the KOMAC C919 that is a direct competitor to the Boeing 737. So maybe you kill Boeing and you allow American manufacturing of high quality aircraft to fall. And then the Chinese competitor is now the thing on the market that doesn't have this bad rap sheet and this risk factor. Maybe it's big dirty international business that's actually happening. Nobody knows about the KOMAC because how much do we pay attention to Chinese stuff? They literally it launched last year for commercial production. That seems like such a hat you're wearing. I know.

2:07:12I know, but the one problem is that's how ESG works. The big growth strategy of the West and the trapeze. I put someone at Boeing must know this is going on and why would they ever allow that to happen if they're a corporation? Well, shareholders. Oh, but we're exiting shareholder capitalism for stakeholder capitalism now. In other words, to answer to the ESG cartel, they are, I mean, the Harvard document, this Harvard corporate law document that I was talking about earlier explicitly says that your governance score can go up for giving yourself corporate bonuses for installing ESG. So you're the CEO, you're the C suite of of Boeing and you're like, well, my business is going to get attacked on the market.

2:07:59It's going to be hard to get capital lines of capital through these banks unless I'm ESG compliant. And I get a gigantic bonus if I'm ESG compliant. Well, it's just the ESG compliant. ESG compliant starts telling you you have all of these expensive regulations that you have to go through and you have all of these DEI social justice things you have to install all these administrators you have to hire, commasars you have to hire DEI officers ESG officers, those are like six seven figure jobs. So you have all this stuff. So what is it to cut corners on the costs a little bit to pull a broken piece out of the scrap and screw it on to the back of an airplane or to hire people who are not really like they don't know what kind of profits over everything.

2:08:54Well, what if the market that they're running in is actually controlled in this ESG sense to where they have very few options and they get to reward themselves for installing it and are punished if they don't. And I will wear this. I will put the biggest let's fold a tricorn revolutionary war tinfoil hat and go Joe. Yeah, that's what I'm looking at now. I'm looking at one of them sailboat looking for. Hell, yes. But that would mean they're intentionally destroying a company by sabotage and by a slow infiltration of these ideas to the point where you can get them to fit inferior parts on an aircraft.

2:09:39That doesn't it seems like there's got to be inspectors right. So that's part of the watching is that that's what this guy that what is he saying that's what he was saying is that they were not inspecting correctly and the part of the video that went viral of him talking was that him and his team went out there and they inspect and they found all these violations. Let's see his video. Let's see his video because I've only seen him speak very briefly, but I saw the store and I was like Jesus Christ. Yeah, and my first initial thought was this man was so embarrassed by the fact that he incorrectly said that Boeing was an evil corporation that he decided to take his own life because he knew that Boeing was amazing and that he had generally genuinely done a terrible thing.

2:10:23So he decided to take his life. Yeah, that's a possible. It seems most likely. Yeah, because the other other possibilities they killed him. Yeah, that's he's telling the truth. Yeah, that was going to be a problem. That's a dark story right there. That's the dark story is that they killed him because if he's dead, then they make billions of dollars. And if he's alive, he could fuck them up and cause the stock to crash and all kinds of other problems to happen and a lot of investigations and all kinds of other stuff. If he's right. Have you heard of this thing degrowth, by the way? No, I haven't.

2:10:53Do we have that video of that? I want to hear it though. I want to hear about this degrowth thing because this is also for D -Chest that scares the shit out of me. It scares the shit out of me to think that the really is a puppet master. Well, a group. Yeah, a committee probably. Yeah, but council, Soviet means council. Yeah, but that it's actually effective. But then if you think about who the actual president is, you know he's not in charge. So well, who is it then? That's right. We've agreed to let a bunch of people that were not exactly sure who they are run the country. And once you get that sort of a system in place, they'll do whatever the fuck they can to make sure that they keep that.

2:11:28Well, people should just keep him in there alive for four more years. He's going to be even crazier three years from now. People should look up the council for inclusive capitalism while they're at while they're wearing their tinfoil. I almost want him to be president for three more years just for stand up. Well, there is that. I mean, I don't know how much longer he can go. Yeah, there is. Yeah, so let's listen to this guy. One, this is not a seven, three, seven problem. It's a bowling problem. I know that they've gone in and they've done due diligence and inspections to assure that the door plugs of the seven three seven are installed properly in the fasteners and door properly.

2:12:10The my concern is what's the rest of their plane? What's the rest of the condition of their plane? And the reason my concern for that is back in 2012, going started removing inspection operations off their jobs. So it left the mechanics to buy off their own work. So what we're seeing with the door plug blow out is what I have seen with the rest of their plane as far as jobs not being completed properly inspection steps, being removed issues being ignored. My concerns are with the seven three seven and seven eight seven because those programs have really embraced the theory that quality is overhead and non value added.

2:12:58So those two programs have really put a strong effort into removing quality from the process. When I first started working at Charleston, I was in charge with pushing back defects to our suppliers. And what that meant was I'd take a group of inspectors and actually go to the supplier and inspect their product before they send it in. Well, I've taken a team before inspectors to spirit aerosystems to inspect the 41 section before they send it to Charleston. And we found 300 defects. Some of them were significant that needed engineering intervention. When I returned to Charleston, my senior manager told me we've found too many defects and he was going to take the next trip.

2:13:42So the next trip he went on to two of my inspectors. And when they got back, they were given accolades for only finding 50 defects. So I pulled that inspector side and I said, did spirit really clean up their act that quick? I don't sound right. And she was mad. She said, no, said the two inspectors were given two hours to inspect the whole 41 section and they were kicked out their blood. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. So there are inspectors sort of. Well, that seems like a money thing, right? They're saying that quality is overhead delivery. Yeah, well, that's profits. This was a whistleblower statement was made in 2017, I think.

2:14:22Yeah. He was doing like a deposition or something the other day when he was found dead in his car in the parking lot of a hotel. So what you said to the profit. So I mentioned the KOMAC C919. That's the direct competitor Chinese manufacturer or new Chinese manufacturer to the 737. Well, there's a KOMAC 929 as well, which is a direct competitor to the 777 and 787 and the 787 is the other one that you just mentioned. And so if we, I don't like I said, I don't know if you've heard of degrowth and degrowth is actually a model that kind of can avoid being communist, but I read this book called Marx in the Anthropocene by this Japanese Marxist named Cohe Saito and it's called toward the idea of a degrowth communism.

2:15:12And it talks about how what we need to do is, then as matches the Marxists of the 60s, by the way, is that what capitalists need to do Americans, capitalism needs to shrink. We produce too much stuff that nobody really needs. So what we need to do, well, I'll just tell you what Herbert Marcusa said in the 60s was socialism has the right ideology, but it can't produce. So we have to figure out how to make a productive socialism and I'm arguing that's what happened in China. They figured out the code. Well, how by opening up a kind of Potemkin market that the government really controls. Well, then on the other hand, he said, well, capitalism produces his own words where it delivers the goods.

2:15:48However, it's not sustainable. It makes too much stuff, too much junk. And so what we need is a reduction in our standard of living, a reduction in our amount of stuff, a reduction in energy and everything in the West. And if you could somehow figure out how to make a more sustainable capitalism, then you have, then you're off to the races. So what I was saying earlier is that when Kissinger and Brzynski and Dang and Chan and Rockefeller were meeting, they were erecting the idea of this productive socialism for China for China to take off with a Potemkin -contained market. Meanwhile, eventually the West would have to degrow so that we could have a system that's not going to outstrip the world's resources.

2:16:34This is at the time when limits to growth from the club of Rome was really big and really hot. Klaus Schwab put that platform to the world economic form in 73. These guys are still around that Paul Ehrlich and his population bomb was like a big thing. And so these guys were thinking along these terms and it was how do we degrow the West. And so what I think we're looking at is well, there's a Chinese manufacturer that can rise while the American manufacturer shrinks. America might not be able to make its own jets, but we can buy them from China and China becomes more and more secure as the manufacturer from the world.

2:17:05Meanwhile, the degrowth initiative, there's this program, there's this research project that was called UK Fires, FI -RES, like Fires. And this was Oxford University Cambridge, the government, the British government. This is serious. And so this thing that came out published in 2019 was called Absolute Zero. It's not called Net Zero. It's Absolute Zero. And it says that Net Zero is not enough. We are not going to save the climate change problem if we only go for net zero carbon emissions. We have to go to Absolute Zero carbon emissions. And so it openly says, what are the initiatives? No new concrete production, no new steel manufacturing, no container shipping.

2:17:48I mean, you can actually look on the document and see it's like zero by 2050. But it also says no fossil fuels and no air travel by 2050. Zero, absolutely zero air travel by 2050. And so how do you get to zero air travel by 2050? How do you create a massive reduction? Well, what else is going on besides the Chinese market go up, Boeing look bad. Media of course is amplifying stories that are pretty routine. Little things go wrong with aircraft all the time. I've taken off a few times a flapper or something gets stuck. We have turned around land and they have to fix it. This is national news when it happens.

2:18:24So they're creating this image that is really scary. But what are the airlines doing at the same time? What is the new aircraft? Do you know have you heard of the boom supersonic? Made in Colorado. So it's like the new Concorde. Right. Well, you can't fly those over land. Those are transatlantic only. Right. So the UK fire thing actually says no domestic flights whatsoever. But international travel will be reserved. Well, turns out the boom supersonic is a Concorde replacement. It's really, really fuel efficient. It's really well designed. Not going to throw shade at it. So it's operating costs are approximately similar to like a 777 or 747.

2:18:58Right. For the same distance. The Concorde was a disaster in terms of how inefficient it was. So now you have by 2029, 140 something 150 or something like that orders for the boom supersonic. So they're planning on flying boom supersonic internationally. But they see the bigger one seats 60 and the smaller one seats 45. Well, a 747 or a 767 might see 360. So that's either six or eight times as many people flying at roughly the same operation cost. So you do the math and the tickets are going to go up by six to eight times over. That's not a difficult calculation to figure out if they want to make the same profit.

2:19:34Which means who's flying? People who can pay eight times as much for a plane ticket or as who's flying. Nobody else is flying. So what you end up doing is for the sake of the climate you degrow commercial travel that's going to kill off a ton of business. But you don't need that. You can do it by zoom. Wouldn't this podcast be so much more engaging if we were on the Zoom screens? Wouldn't we be having a great time and great relationship? And don't you, if you ever watched zoom, like they're doing an I do a ton of them. So I watch these interviews on Zoom. It's like five minutes in and I'm having like suicidal ideation.

2:20:03Like do I really have to watch this? I don't really have suicidal ideation. My God, I'm going to get a million things. I'm just kidding. It's a joke. It's a joke. Good. It's there now. Like you're funny. You have to say that now. Dude, if you make a like I swear to God, if I have to watch one more zoom, if I have to be on one more Zoom call this week, I'm going to KMS. Right? If you say that on like any social media, you start getting emails that are like suicide hotline prevention, blah, blah, blah, blah. But it used to be a thing that people just said. Yeah. For sure. This movie doesn't end soon.

2:20:33I'm going to kill myself. Yeah. It's fun. Yeah. Like nobody's going to kill themselves because a movie went 45 minutes too long. But no, I think this degro thing is serious. The what's it called the monthly is monthly review, monthly standard one of these. It's a social smagging. Publish this article about degroath. And they have their drawing of what it's supposed to look like. And it's supposed to go down to this thing that Klaus Schwab talks about called the circular economy. Bill Gates talks about a circular economy. But literally they're drawing is a spiral down to this little circle in the middle.

2:21:01It looks like your society going down the drain. And it's like, how do you not make fun of this? But I think that they're very serious to try to shrink the economy. And I have my Tim Foyle hat, but I can tell you why that's the strategy also. And it's to avoid the war. It's to avoid China rising. This is that Thucydides trap. We've kind of started there. Thucydides trap was the idea that when you have a rising power, in that case it was from Thucydides, it was Sparta. Going up against an existing power, which would be Athens in our day though. It's China and the United States. If the thing rises, eventually it's going to try to get regional or in this case global dominance.

2:21:39China is going to try to become when it becomes strong enough the global superpower. Well, if you want access to that market, which they did, you have to open that up and China is going to rise. So that you get trapped into the threat of power struggle between two very wealthy superpowers eventually. Well, how do you avoid the war? Simple. You take the existing power and sunset it while the other one rises. So the sun is no longer rising in the west. It's now setting over America. And it gets to rise over the east. We have a century of Asia. So we build up Chinese markets. We diminish American markets.

2:22:10And I think that the whole ESG program, which by the way China's exempt from, is designed to do that. How's that exempt from that? Because they're a developing nation in the global south. So the policies don't apply to them because climate change is super global or something. How are they developing nation? Because they keep developing? Well, imagine what would happen if you told them no. They are the manufacturing base for the world. What if you said you have to like start following decent human rights protocols. You can't not pay people to further labor. Maybe don't kill people. Don't disappear people anymore.

2:22:46And at the same time, you know, instead of building something like 300 new coal plants, which is I think what they're doing. They're building a couple of coal plants a week in China. They're building 57 nuclear power plants. The US is taking some offline, but we're building one in Georgia right now. So you're creating the state of energy dominance for China because you've released them from all these expensive protocols. And all you hear is when people try to start a big company that could compete in the US. Well, let's get the, you know, manufacturing for X, Y, or Z. Take it out of the hands of China.

2:23:17Bring it back to America. Let's unoffshore some stuff. Bring some American manufacturing back. They're like, whoops, too expensive. DEI ESG makes it too complicated, too expensive. Everybody complains about it in the business world. So if you don't comply with DEI and ESG, you can't get loans. You have a diminished access to or worse interest rates for your... Short term lines of capital. Here it's Jamie, Jamie Poole, this up says, the benefits of the UN's designation extend beyond the institution itself. For example, the World Trade Organization allows developing nations to have longer periods of time to meet various financial and trade obligations.

2:23:56The World Bank provides China billions in loans, even though China's income level with otherwise make it ineligible for such financing. And then add in. So again, imagine the World Bank said, no, China, that's it. We're cutting you off. What would China do? China would say pound sand. China's going to be like, we're huge ha ha ha. We're going to do what we want, probably in Mandarin, because they're going to make everybody answer in Mandarin from that note. God damn, man. And I'm like, I'm not going to say that... I mean, we talked about the Tim Fowl hat. I can't think of a cleaner explanation that this is deliberate.

2:24:34I've tried really hard to think of an explanation other than that this is on purpose. And they all start like spinning wheels. It's like really weird. But the tools are there. ESG, social credit, and China, the whole thing. But I think the bowing thing is just another piece of this same puzzle. It's destroy a menu, the manufacturing base in the wealth of the West, and hand it off to what they call the Global South, and China, through its Belt and Road initiative. God, I hope you're wrong about this one. I've spent my entire life hoping I'm wrong about everything, I think. How often do you write?

2:25:07I write a lot. No, are you? What do you mean? How often are you writing? Oh, how often am I writing? Correct, I should. Sorry, I thought you were like... So in my own life, in my own stupid head, I thought you meant WRIT. No, I'm writing two books at the same time right now. I really am. One about Maoism, but how woke is Mao. But at any rate, I'm right. Well, it's easier to identify when I'm wrong. I do overcook the books occasionally, but it's not very frequently. There's a whole joke online, James Lindsay was right. What have you been wrong about? Well, the far right likes to lord over me. I thought that they were setting up, and I'm going to totally give myself an escape hatch for this.

2:25:48But I thought that there was for sure going to be a clash of violent clash between probably conservative Christians and the LGBT thing somewhere around pride last year. I was talking about that leading up to, you know, through the spring of 23. And there was obviously no incident of violence. I was particularly concerned when all those Christians went to LA, to Dodger Stadium, and they protested the weird... What were they, the sisters of perpetual indulgence, or whatever they called themselves, the drag queens that looked like nuns? And I thought, well, this is going to be it, right? So I was wrong.

2:26:24I overcook there. I did not... Now here's my escape hatch. I think that when that shooter, who was trans in Nashville, was it Covington? Is that the name of the school? Covington school shooter? I think that that changed the entire calculation. I think Covington was that Florida? Yeah, I might have this wrong. It's the one that was in Nashville, though. Right. And there were six people were shot, three kids, three teachers. But the one where they haven't released the manifesto yet, but Stephen Crowder ended up leaking allegedly three pages of it. When that happened, I think the entire country had like a...

2:26:59Take a breath moment, because you had this very disturbed young person, who was in the transgender universe, who went on a rampage. And you very frequently see... She was biologically female, young women, going on rampages. So why in the world is it was she hopped up on testosterone? Was she... You know, it was the test, converting to estradiol through, you know, aromatacea, or whatever, and driving her into like, you know, rage, because that's the thing. Right. Why did this happen? Or is she just so frustrated by her ideology and stuff not going her way, and she decided she flipped out, was going to get revenge?

2:27:33I think that changed the calculation. I think that they were priming the situation for violence, and then the violence didn't come. So I overestimated the potential for that circumstance. And I was wrong about that. See if I can think of some more instances. But that's like a bold prediction. Right. To predict violence is a bold prediction. You could be wrong about that. But I mean like specific things that you believe to be true that weren't.

2:28:01Other than the fact that I thought that it would be better to live without religion than with it in the past. Isn't that fascinating? I've had the same sort of battle. You know, that was a little luxury belief of like 90s kids. Well, the idea that the Atheists were smart, and the other people were superstitious. Yeah, that was totally dead wrong about that. I had TDS. I had straight up. I was like on the floor like a Trump arrangement syndrome. That's right. I thought Trump was the end of the world. This is 2016. 1617, yeah. When did you guys come on the podcast with those fake papers? That would have been very beginning of 19 or very end of 18.

2:28:36Yeah. Because that came out in October 18 and you were fast. Right. Yeah. I was fucking looted. To this day, we've talked about the dog park one like 100 times. That dog park paper is on another level. God damn genius. It's God damn genius. But it's so crazy that so many of the things that you talked about in these fake papers were appreciated and applauded. And it just makes you realize the lunacy of these fucking people that are supposed to be in charge of higher education that they didn't pick up on that this is insane. You're talking about hetero normity in dog parks? Yeah. Fuck are you saying?

2:29:11Yeah. You get the fuck did you study? Yeah. You know? They won an award, dude. That's so funny. They won an award. Yeah. What was the total title of the paper? It was, um, queer human reactions to queer performativity and rape culture and urban dog parks in Portland, Oregon. Jesus Christ. Oh, dude. Some of those other ones though, like we had the one that was called it's called in through the back door where we said that straight men would become more feminist and more sensitive and less transphobic if they practice putting things up their own asses. Oh, that's right. That was called an important contribution to knowledge.

2:29:43That's still my favorite thing ever. An important contribution to knowledge. I just love the titles. We have the fat bodybuilding paper and we called it Who Are They To Judge? Because like bodybuilders are huge and fat people are huge and who are they to judge that one big body is bad and one big body is good. Well, there's, I don't think that that merits a scientific paper but if you wanted to do that and people wanted to see it, I would have no problem with it. Like if you decided that we're going to go back to like the days of, you know, when you see these Ruben -esque women and these paintings that are obese, eaten grapes, this was considered hot because it was really difficult to get fat back that.

2:30:24Yeah. You want to go back to that? That's what your choice is? I have no problem with that. Yeah. You do what you want to do. Yeah. Well, but best of luck to your dating pool. But yeah, but the thing is like to study that for a scientific paper and then to submit it and then have people give it a fucking award? Like what? My favorite part of that actually is in the title, but in the way after math of that, this real neuroscientist wrote this paper like, no, there's no way that anybody could actually say that's absurd. And so we wrote a paper back and we're like, no, it's really absurd. And then he wrote another paper like there's no basis upon which anybody could say the fat bodybuilding is an absurdity.

2:31:04His name is Jeffrey Cole. Do you remember that weird phobia that came out and it went viral like 10, 15 years ago where he was like they discovered a new phobia of things where like little holes in it all over the place, trips of phobia, I don't know something like that. No, there's like honeycombs or whatever and it like weirds some people out. Oh, really? It's the guy who discovered that. Oh. Went off on us. Oh my God. That's hilarious. So there's no way it could be absurd that fat bodybuilding. There's no basis upon which we could conclude that it's absurd. Some people might think it's totally normal.

2:31:35So it couldn't possibly be considered absurd. Well, some people could think it's totally normal. Well, you could imagine that someone could get to a point where they appreciated fat bodies. And they want to see different fat bodies and like, how did you build your fat? You know, only large. I'd only large. That's in the paper. It says it takes a long time to build a fat body. It takes even longer to build a politicized fat body. Yeah, but it does take long to build a fat body. Oh, no, man. I hate you. If you were interested in doing that, like if you're interested in drinking yourself to death, like, I don't think you should do it.

2:32:06You should. But you're allowed to. And it's a project. Yeah, it's a project. And if you decide to fat bodybuild yourself into a state of total... I did over the week. Biological decay. I went off my diet and I'm like, like, because I'm doing that like meat thing now. So I'm like, three days of just, you know, okay, I'll eat breakfast. Okay, I'll have the dessert. And I'm like, what the? How did I gain six pounds? Like, what the hell is this? Yeah, you can cheat and get going pretty quick. I'm on it 90. I'd say like 95 % of the time. That's about me too. But last night I cheated. Last night Joe DeRosa brought me a sub.

2:32:39He's got this sub shop in New York City called Joey Roses. Yeah. And he just put in, like, I guess he's got a stand out here or something. He's got a pop up out here. And so he brought over some sandwiches for the club. Dude, it'd be hard to follow that diet in this city. There's a lot of food here. There is a lot of great steak houses though. That's true too. It's not that hard to follow. The thing is, like, that's what my body craves for the most part. Me too. I feel like a thousand times better. Yeah. Yeah, I just think for most people high protein diets are they just feel better. High protein diet food.

2:33:12And it's the most important thing is real food. Real food, that's right. I ate a lot of eggs. Nothing comes out of them. Yeah, it comes out of a chicken. It doesn't come out of a box. Yeah. And I always feel way better. I've done a bunch of different diets. I've tried a bunch of different things. Well, thereafter that too, right? No beef consumption. Yeah. Well, that's another one. That's in the absolute zero paper too. No beef, no lamb. Zero. Absolute zero. Because apparently, that's really bad for the environment or whatever. And the question is, like, how are you going to get people to go along with that?

2:33:39The Salt Lake Tribune just put on an article yesterday. I made fun of it on Twitter talking about the same thing. It's like, we need to get no meat, no dairy. And then we can have like better diets or whatever. How are you going to kill all those cows? It's up to you. You go do it. Jordan Peterson says that it's proof that it's earth worshiping or guia worship cult. Because they're sacrificing cows to the weather. That is wild. That's a very good point. Jordan, you got a point, brother. That's a very good point. Sacrificing cows to the weather. Like in Ireland, they pass some law where they had to kill like 200 ,000 cows.

2:34:12That was what we were talking about. Me and Jordan were talking about that. And what the fuck are you guys talking about? Yeah. Well, you're out of your mind. You're stopping people from making food. Are you fucking crazy? It's in, well, me while China is making thousands or how many coal plants they have? 300 something. I don't know how many they have. I know how many they're making. Well, I'll totally. And I've gone over and breed the air. Yeah, I've been over there and breed the air like on a bad day. Like on a nice day, it's a nice day. It's the same as usual. Like here. But three days of the week, it's like blade runner.

2:34:41It's like, what the hell's going on? It depends on which way the wind is blowing. And otherwise, and like your life is literally poison. Jesus Christ. Like your eyes are burning for no reason. Here's the worst part. So you get off the plane. If you're going to China, don't waste your time. No. Okay, you get off the plane and immediately you can smell it. It smells kind of like glue and dirty cardboard and petro. You can smell a pollution immediately. So, but you know, about an hour in, you can't smell it anymore. You're used to it. Right. Until the first time you go take a piss and you smell it again.

2:35:09Because it's in your blood. Oh, wow. And you're like, oh no. Oh, wow. You smell the pollution in your piss. Like the first time. Yeah, like the first time. Oh my god. Then you just kind of like, then you become completely used to it. And you don't notice it anymore. That's the thing about all factory senses. Like you become accustomed to smells. That's why people that live in places that have like, if you go past like a slaughterhouse. Yeah. Like have you ever done that? Yeah. That fucking smell. Yeah. Like how do these people live with this? I got lost in the smokestack quarter of Texas one time.

2:35:41And there are some smells on the road even. Yeah, used to be New Jersey when you go past the factories in Jersey. You'd be like, what the fuck? And they're just billowing smoke out into the sky. Just billowing smoke out into the sky. You know, this is a fucking smell. Imagine this is your town, dude. You got to get out of here. I'll tell you what. That's China. So what I said when I went over there first time. So this is kind of relevant. It's this whole like ESG model. The first time I went over there. As I said, I came home and people like, well, what's it like? And I was like, well, I looked around.

2:36:10And it's obviously communist because you see weird shit where like people are like fake doing fake jobs. Like it's obvious that they just are getting paid in income to look busy. Like stuff like a dude like sitting on his hands and knees hitting the ground with a hammer when the boss is around. Like doing nothing. Like I went to a bank one time when I was over there to change like $200. So I could have some cash. And they were like, oh yeah, the bank doesn't change money on Tuesdays. And I was like, what? And then I got bumped into by this janitor. And that's like, I guess taboo or something because he was way too worried about having bumped into a customer than I thought he should have been.

2:36:46Maybe I just don't know the culture. So I was like, he was like, he bumps into me. And I know like 10 things in Chinese. So it's like, may one tea, which means like no problem. And all of a sudden you could see, you know, they all did the little like, you know, you're not supposed to do racial microaggressions, but they did the little face. They're like, you know, because I did the whole like Asian surprise face because I spoke Chinese. Right. So all of a sudden the lady behind the desk was like, oh, I just remembered. We do change money on Tuesday because now she thought I could go tell on her in Chinese.

2:37:14Whoa. I went to, that was a Starbucks and they were a white man on my cup, Byron. I'm my cup. So interesting. Ireland isn't calling cows for climate, but maybe it should be. What the fuck? Oh my god. It's not happening. It's not a true story. It's not true story. It's not the same thing. It was something that came from something else and then when looked into, oh, here you go. Like, the rumors started here. Okay, here it goes. The rumors of Ireland's dairy cow landed in a media and online context primed by the Dutch case for outrage. Case in point. Must -comment was in response to a tweet by a right wing provocateur about a story in an obscure Wyoming publication called Cowboy State Daily that accused Ireland's government of bovine -sidal intentions.

2:38:02That article, in turn, cited an op -ed from the British newspaper The Telegraph railing against Ireland's alleged mooted cow massacre and warned in apocalyptic terms of an eco -modernist agenda to do away with conventional meat altogether. The Telegraph did not cite its sources, but it likely drew on an article published the previous day in the Irish newspaper The Independent. That story reported on the internal government document discussed above, including the proposal that 195 ,000 cows be called over three years at the government's expense to help achieve its ambitious climate goals. But hold on a second.

2:38:43That goes on to continue about how it would be so hard to even do it. But hold on, go back there. That story reported on the internal government document. What is the internal government document? They would need to call 65 ,000 cows every year in order to meet the proposed chemicals. So they're just saying that if there's no way to meet these goals, the only way to meet these goals in terms of what the impact agriculture would have, we'd have to kill 65 ,000 cows a year. So they're not saying we should do that. But they are at least saying that's on the table. That's what I talked to these ranchers out in New Mexico not that long ago.

2:39:20And they were telling me that that's the way all the policies are. It's that to meet whatever the new environmental standard is so that you don't get somebody breathing down your neck or maybe you don't get fines or whatever that they're actually impossible. He said that the only way you could meet some of these is to have no cows and no people on the land whatsoever. And I don't know if they're actually going to like move on that, but that's this is what I'm talking about with because it's not not in the UK fires absolute zero document. It's 100 % in there that this is no beef, no lamb at all.

2:39:53So those have got to go by 20, I guess 50, there will be zero consumption of beef and lamb under the ambitious net zero or absolute zero should say client. 20 50 zero zero. And so do they plan on making cows extinct? Do they plan on keeping a breeding population that you could fucking just keep the species alive with? What the fuck are they going to do? I don't know, but they talk a lot about the emissions of those within. They also say that when there was the massacre of the bison that that was really bad and bison to make a lot of emissions, but there was no like climate emergency from all the bison.

2:40:27So I mean, I don't know. Well, the climate science is also a religion. If you have anyone that goes over the actual data and differs with what the narrative is, that person is a crazy person and a climate denier that's right. You can't even have discussions about the actual, like the real numbers. You can't talk about the real history of the climate of earth. You can't talk about the dangers of global cooling. If you just talk about the dangers of global cooling, you're a climate to none. Yeah, you can't talk about whether we're in a natural warming cycle or if it's got, you know, or whatever.

2:41:05Not saying that we are, I don't know, but you can't talk about it. This is one fact, for sure. Or we know 100%. The temperature of earth has never been static. That's right. It goes over and down. Ever, ever, ever. When they do those core samples and they go back thousands and thousands and thousands of years, it's never been static. It's always been all over the fucking place. And there's a bunch of variables that cause it to change. They know that. And they know that humans are having some impact. We're having some impact. What is the impact? And how much of it should we throw the fucking society that we all live in into the gutter to try to fix?

2:41:44Right. Or hand over all of the power to a handful of unilitated, yeah, unilected dictators. Yeah. These so -called stakeholders. And the dude Bill Gates knows more about all of this than everybody. Like I get it. He built Microsoft. He can do something. He knows something. Like I'm not going to take that away from him. But like, why is he like the god of vaccines and then climate and like every other thing because he built fucking computer? It's very weird. It's all very weird because it's just like you don't want to think it's that on the nose. You don't want to think it's like that on the nose that they're engineering that demise.

2:42:17I actually get hopeful when I think that they are. I'm much more afraid of it being just some random organic shit going off the rails than it is that there's some number of people who could be identified. I worry about that. Because criminals. I worry about that. I worry about it. There is a lot of it is a random thing that just happens with human beings that are tribally opposed to each other. Then maybe too wealthy or whatever. And there's a lot of that. A lot of free time and a lot of easy living. And then it all just wraps up like everything does. Like nothing stays like this is a good way to behave.

2:42:49That's where religion comes in. Because religion does tell you this is a good way to behave. These are the tenants that you should live by. And it's not like this thing that you should be escalating and pushing it further and further and further. So I cannot get all like churchy because what I have been I've seriously been I said earlier that I've been looking at the Bible a lot looking at the Gospels not just particularly but especially I was reading the Gospel Matthew the other day. It's Evans chapter. And I bet you never thought you're going to have this conversation with me. But I was reading it and I'm reading about the narrow the way is narrow than straight narrow way where he has that in Matthew 70's like you know why does the path that leads the destruction but the way that leads to life is straight and narrow.

2:43:26And it's like well what is that talking about? It's like you have to live well you have to treat each other well. It's like you have to also repent when you mess up and people don't like to do that. You can't just go along with the crowd because the crowd is going in some direction. That's the wide path and that leads to destruction. But the way is straight and narrow when he says straight it's not like straight like straight line it's straight like like this like a waterway. So that means that the edges are like right there. And if you don't run the boat just right you know you're going to crash into the sides and it's a weird kind of pun or whatever in English but it turns out that that's the word that he uses for Greek is what it means is a narrow waterway.

2:44:05And so it's like you got to it's very important that we you know we live like that. And so what does religion do? Well religion teaches people to like at least contemplate this crap. Like why don't you stop for five minutes of your week and think maybe there's some like ways to be a good person. Right and if you don't have a structure for that that it's dependent entirely upon the ideology subscribe to. Right. If it's an out of control ideology that may very well be controlled by foreign powers that are using it to disrupt this country. And then like you've got to it's crazy thing to think but that might really be what's going on.

2:44:41I I think it is. I mean I'll put the hat back on or whatever but I'm not afraid of the radio waves as the problem I've got to put it like a something else on. Timfoil hats find though. It suits its purpose. Yeah it suits the purpose. It's it's seriously but but then even that gets infiltrated so people have got to take it really seriously. I like to tell people this is my little like bit right so I'll waste one of my bits but I tell people it's like the here's how communism is. This is how freaking seductive it is. So in again Matthew chapter 10 Jesus is talking and he says that I send you out and you have to be wisest serpents and gentle as doves.

2:45:19It's very famous. This is Matthew 10 16. It's very famous first. So you have to be wise and wary like a snake right. Testing the tongue testing the air knowing where you're going. If I'm going to send you out into the world you've got to be wise and judicious and discerning but you also have to be gentle right and so what do the communists do. This is how this is how subtle they are Joe. They come along and say did you hear that? Jesus said be gentle. And they leave out the other part and you're like yeah he did and then you got a bunch of like weak nambi pambi pastors who think it's about being winsome and being cool for their congregation and like not standing up for for the truth any longer and that's bad and then what happens is stuff starts to go shitty and then you have Mussolini comes along the fascist guy comes along and he's like the problem is being gentle but no the problem was that you're not being discerning and wise anymore so what happens is the communists take away half the commandment to suck you in and marries a truth to a liar whatever and then the fascists overreact by throwing the principle out entirely but if people were grounded in their fathes and taking it seriously they would realize no no no no I have to be kind and gentle but I also have to be wise as a serpent when the serpent's in danger it doesn't hesitate to strike but it's only going to do that when it's in danger so it's like that's that's crafty man and then look at like that's crafty to an adult now imagine them when they do that to like a five year old like with the stuff in schools or whatever right like oh well people who look like you had a long history of causing a lot of problems in this country and they didn't say you're a bad kid right to the kid but they said people who look like you or your ancestors speaking of my ancestors will let the world know because when my reparations bill will go through the roof I found out recently I'm seventh cousins with Robert E.

2:47:06Lee whoa yeah like some of my family is doing the genealogy and so now I'm my reparation bill just went up to like Elon Musk level wow yeah that's crazy yeah I didn't know the guy oh of course never met him of course which is like we're not mad at cloud Schwab for his dad no no we're not in cloud Schwab for other reasons yeah it wasn't his choice it wasn't your choice that Robert E. Lee was how many generations seven seven yeah apparently my line and he had a common grandfather is the way that the seventh cousins math works out it is kind of wild to imagine that just a couple hundred years ago less the United States just involved with the war with each other yeah that's right like just that's how nuts we are we're so fucking nuts we'll fight each other well the freedom's important yeah right yeah I mean liberty or death yeah and that was the ultimate one right yeah just think about that all the time now man like give me liberty give me a phase I think when I was a kid like that's crazy that sounds ridiculous because there's so much no real issues yeah but now it's like no that's I'm that's legit right I'm I'm in yeah they said it for a reason because back then it was a whole different ballgame they were playing imagine someone trying to start a new country today yeah you're gonna have a hard time getting off the ground good fucking luck you think it's hard to get a DEI loan yeah no kidding just start a manufacturing corporation in America imagine trying to start a country yeah you had to be compliant with like everything but you're like some crazy rogue state or whatever right imagine if like Iceland was for sale or someone with some country Greenland like Greenland you could buy Greenland imagine you bought Greenland you're like we're just gonna fucking let people be cool yeah really cool actually let people have a good time yeah live it well that's a good spot to buy if the global warming fanaticists are true if they're right now well they're correct Greenland's the spot so are they buying up that property no there also the thing is that a lot of these people that are pushing all this climate change agenda have homes on the beach yeah and they're not getting rid of those and by the way the shoreline hasn't changed yeah Plymouth Rock is like just barely above the surface you can still see where they wrote 1620 on it look the surface has changed throughout human history we know that folks and you don't want to change it the most when there's a fucking ice age uh -huh that's the scary shit kids yeah there's these weird things because it doesn't like change tomorrow it's like that stupid movie it's like you can build these things called seawalls but it's also like every single thing that happens is being used as a device to control people and the fact that some people reluctant to see that is very disturbing to me it's like hey guys someone something's happening here in same formula every time yep it could be that we're all gonna have a better future but there's these deniers that won't come along with us so hate them yeah because it would be great and you're sacrificing you're dry you're riding a bike to work instead of driving your car you're a good person and those those assholes with their their truck you know or you know big diesel truck are ruining the planet I was watching this lady talk about this she was talking about how she loves having an electric car because she knows that it makes it means I'm being a good person yeah that's right tripping to the environment hmm I just saw this thing that said that the environmental impact of electric cars is actually worse overall than the environmental impact of a traditional combustion engine is that true because that sounds crazy I read the same thing as you so my depth of knowing that it's true is equal to yours just an all fairness I drove here an electric car I drive an electric car all the time do you yeah I've a test let's awesome okay is it fucking rules I've seen a couple of those cyber trucks you guys I would truck now I have the model s oh yeah those are fun it's great it's so comfortable it's easy it's fast it's shit it's ridiculous it's like it makes other cars feel stupid they feel dumb because they don't move like that thing then the thing moves like it's like teleporting it's bizarre it's bizarre what it can do it did it's it's easy to drive I don't like the fact the horns not in the middle this is probably what we saw electric vehicles release more toxic commissions are worse for the environment than gas powered cars study this is in the New York Post and it says it's amazing that they didn't ban this story yeah right from the New York Post remember when they did that with Twitter with the hundred by and how wild is that electric vehicles release more toxic particles into the atmosphere and are worse for the environment than their gas powered counterparts according to a resurface study study published by emissions data from emissions analytics was released in 2022 but has attracted a wave of attention this week by being cited in a Wall Street Journal op -ed on Sunday it found breaks and tires on EVs release 1 ,850 times more particle pollution compared to modern tailpipes which have efficient exhaust filters bringing gas powered vehicles emissions to new lows today most vehicle related pollution comes from tire wear whoa as heavy cars drive on light duty tires most often made with synthetic rubber made from crude oil and other fillers and additives they deteriorate and release harmful chemicals into the air according to emission i do know they're heavier and they wear it on the roads faster wow because EVs are an average of 30 percent heavier breaks and tires in the battery powered cars wear out faster than on standard cars emission analytics found the tire wear emissions on half a metric ton of battery weight in an EV are more than 400 times as great as direct exhaust particulate emissions for reference half a metric ton is equivalent to roughly 1 ,100 pounds that's something that someone had told me a long time ago about cities but the thing about the pollution is it's not just the the emissions it's break dust yeah you're breathing and break dust because if you've ever like touched your car like your wheels after you drive it for a while when you're cleaning your car you get break dust everyone's just dust it's all over the inside that goes out in the air oh yeah totally and that's that's fucking you know what it doesn't on carbon breaks when you have um like uh those uh what is it carbon carbon ceramic disc brakes uh -huh they don't seem to do that are they like more environmentally friendly or carbon ceramic disc brakes more environmentally friendly than regular because your wheels don't get all fucked up like that you don't get break dust all your wheels like nasty black no no it's interesting it's it's more expensive and they put them on high performance cars yeah but is it more environmentally friendly because it seems like it would be if you're not getting the brake dust I'm like where is it going is it just not making dust yeah because it's a carbon fiber pad and then the brake so does it just work without making dust does that even make sense whatever I write about these EVs besides getting the materials to make the batteries is that they don't they're not like reusable you know there's like no used EV market right like nobody wants to buy a used one and then replacing the batteries if they you know where out is a disaster it's very expensive yeah it's just close to the price of the car itself sometimes is what I've heard I don't know really yeah they can be extremely expensive so there's no like that much there's zero after market so like where do they go do they have like electric car graveyards like the windmill blades where they just kind of bury them in the dirt like I don't just compared to metal blend pads significant reduction but they are way more expensive aren't they yes they're way more expensive yeah it's like everybody's got to ride around like expensive Porsche brakes yeah yeah but I mean if you think about all the other things that we do for the environment if carbon ceramic brakes are a possibility like how much more expensive does it make a car $500 more like what is there a way that they can produce them in mass is there a reason why they haven't done that I mean that seems to be alone a solution at least for electric cars if you'd say you're spending the money to get a Tesla they're fucking expensive already if someone's gonna spend 120 grand on a car you won't spend 122 right get carbon ceramic brakes that won't pollute the atmosphere nearly as much down well it would seem to make reason yeah that's a wild statistic but that lady was not aware of that yeah yeah I'm doing really amazing this quick thing I just pulled up it says it'll must take some months to make each one holy shit whoa that's probably why that's a lot a lot of investment build well ceramics are complicated if they're high tech wow holy shit average of I don't know $10 ,000 per break is that on right whoa I don't know if that's right but it's just yeah you're looking somewhere in a 10 ,000 range per set of rotors wow wow holy shit maybe it's a little bit more than that yeah damn damn yeah seems isn't there another way if they have carbon ceramics and they're doing it for that isn't there some other kind of compound that they could do that's comparable doesn't it seem like someone should be able to figure that out if that's literally the source of our major form of pollution I bet they trying to figure that out yeah what am I retarded some guys just to figure that out as wrong with me I'm like why doesn't anybody figure it out but R &D but like it still doesn't like answer the question if people want to drive an electric vehicle like okay fine who cares right but it's like why do we have to get rid of gas ones if they if the emissions are negligible compared to their breaks whatever the breaks happen to be right right so if their breaks are most of the pollution and the emissions are like basically nothing I think that emissions is one of those words that they just say it and then everybody has to do what they say because they said emissions think about the emissions think about the emissions right and they're not taking to account break dust like yeah there's so much else going on it's tired where seems just a little bit fake well it's definitely fake if that's true that's true that's something to really we need but the scary thing is and they say then we must take all cars off zeroed well yeah everyone stays in the 15 minutes it didn't bicycle everywhere it's good for you so the bootage said a year or two years ago that their goal was by 2030 to get to net zero that's the buzzword automobile deaths how you get to zero automobile deaths Pete stop people driving cars it's the best way yeah basically it like turns out that stuff happens good lower yeah so it's like good lower James Lindsay don't come here with good thoughts and tidings for the future I am the most optimistic person in this stupid culture wardrobe you're the actually think like I see these guys bungling so much like Joe Biden's bunk not he's a bungler he is a bungal yeah like I got to ask at this Christian event one time this kind of person's like wailing and they're like you know if God is real is almost like if God is real why do we have to have Joe Biden and like the only answer I could think of on the spot was because people have to be able to see like dudes pulling the curtain back for a awful like what the hell is going on having that guy's president is fascinating and when they expose it like when Korean Jean Pierre have your say your name yeah when she tweeted accidentally from her own account that's Joe Biden's like oh look how about that and when you see that lady who when she's the White House Secretary answering questions it's so ridiculous it is a master's imagine that that's the person that's pulling strings and then it's like they invite like well what was that guy that was stealing women's luggage like Sam Brinton like the whole administration yeah that's the fucking mind like you know whatever shade is deserved and no more but we got the admiral Levine and we just see the pictures and you're like what the hell and she's in charge of health he he he's in charge of health will be in trouble for that but whatever yeah person that that crazy person at the admiral that unhealthy looking person yeah is in charge of health that for I mean whoa hey hey maybe there's a problem yeah and China must be laughing oh I look I kind of admire their long game I think it's very impressive what it is you know listen I am not Chinese but if I was in China I would be proud of what my country's doing to America a generational strategy I think they're killing it my experience on the ground in China is that roughly half like what's going on with not with against America but with that system and roughly half would very quietly whisper when I was there do everything you can because if we lose America we lose everything good so there's there's a sizable portion of Chinese that know that they can bug out to America but if America goes there's nowhere to bug out to in that wild that wearing a make America great again hat on can get you punched yeah that's how and it happens to be red which seems at least slightly symbolic yeah the whole thing is bananas we are in we are in like the pinnacle of bananas time James Lindsay I'm grad I'm very very glad you're out there I'm glad that you know as much as you know and you can talk about these things the way in that you have a personality that seems to enjoy some of this conflict well I like a little bit and I like the I like the absurdity I'm not going to lie I think at the end of the day it's easy to remember this is all really funny it is very funny unless it's tearing your life apart and then it's not so funny for you but it's human the human folly of it all at scale at the scale that we're witnessing is kind of amazing it's tremendously it's it's also kind of amazing when we know as much as we know about human nature you know we know as much as we know about the benefits of hard work and work ethic and discipline and all these things that we've always praised people for in the past as now being dismissed as being racist or sexist or Islamophobic or whatever the fuck is it's a supremacy whatever the fuck they can label it with it's like they're trying to diminish strength and through a very obvious sort of ideological scheme and it's weird it's weird to watch it's weird to watch human folly like play out like that so many people accept it and adopt it yeah it's a fun project is that what the Bible was talking about when they said the meek shell and herathy earth yeah it might be it was definitely what the Bible's talking about where one prophet after another stands up in the Old Testament is like listen you screw heads you're way off the track and if you don't get in line God's gonna punish you and so what did they do in almost every case not quite every case they go after the prophet right yeah like the prophets didn't have a nice easy ride maybe a couple of exceptions to that but the prophets got you know we're like hey guys we got to get back to you know living the correct way and they bullied the prophet instead so it feels kind of like living in Bible stories sometimes it does I feel like if we were on Spotify I would ask you to queue up Johnny Cash God's gonna cut you down so can we just play that just for the Spotify people and say goodbye to the YouTube people we can't do that not really all right I'll listen to it when I get out of here you should do what was that I just won't play for everybody else who's everybody else I'll play it for us just for us all right let me hear a little bit no Chris Rock was in that video all right let it that out yeah hey thank you appreciate you thanks for being here man and thanks thanks for having so much information that you can just give people a road map that I really don't think is available in a lot of places well thank you very much all right bye everybody you

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James Lindsay is a writer, political commentator, mathematician and podcaster. His latest book, "The Queering of the American Child," co-authored with Logan Lancing, is available now.
www.newdiscourses.com
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