#2126 - Donnell Rawlings

27 Mar 2024 · 2 h 39 min

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The Joe Rogan Experience - Episode #2126

Guest

Donnell Rawlings

Overview In this episode of The Joe Rogan Experience, comedian and actor Donnell Rawlings joins Joe Rogan for a candid conversation. Rawlings discusses his recent work, experiences in the comedy industry, his journey with acting, and thoughts on societal issues. The discussion also touches on artificial intelligence, human nature, and the future of entertainment.

Key Topics

Donnell Rawlings' New Chapter

  • New Comedy Special: Donnell talks about his new Netflix special, "Chappelle’s Home Team – Donnell Rawlings: A New Day." He shares experiences from shooting the special, including having to film it multiple times until he and producer Dave Chappelle were satisfied.
  • Personal Transformation: Rawlings discusses wearing a suit and breaking stereotypes, signaling a transition in his life and career.

Acting and Comedy Career

  • Law & Order Experience: Rawlings recounts his roles in various "Law & Order" franchises, emphasizing the show's cultural significance in New York acting circles.
  • Comedy Beginnings: He reflects on starting as a heckler and transitioning to a stand-up comedian, sharing stories of early performances and the support he received from friends and family.
  • Stand-up vs. Acting: Discusses the differences in performing comedy live versus acting in scripted roles and how both have contributed to his career development.

Industry Insights

  • Social Media and Comedy: The conversation touches on the impact of social media on comedy, with Rawlings noting the differences in path and skills between traditional stand-up and social media-based comedians.
  • Artificial Intelligence: A discussion on the potential impact of AI on the entertainment industry, including AI-generated content and its implications for traditional media and jobs.

Societal Commentary

  • Negativity and Conflict: Rogan and Rawlings discuss the prevalence of negativity in media and online platforms, particularly in spaces like "Black Twitter."
  • Pandemic Reflections: Rawlings shares his thoughts on the COVID-19 pandemic's impact on society, including reflections on lockdowns and personal freedom.
  • Human Nature and Technology: A speculative discussion on the future with AI, the potential for AI presidency, and the long-term implications of technology on human society.

Personal Insights

  • Co-parenting: Rawlings opens up about his experiences with co-parenting and the personal growth it has fostered.
  • Philosophical Views: Both Rogan and Rawlings discuss their personal beliefs regarding spirituality and human behavior, touching on the idea of living a life guided by positive principles.

Notable Quotes

  • On Comedy Specials: "The hardest thing to capture is that feeling like you can't capture it."
  • On AI and the Future: "We're the last of the Mohicans. Humanity is underestimating the impact AI will have."

Closing Remarks Donnell Rawlings promotes his Netflix special, emphasizing the significance of capturing the right moment in comedy. The episode ends with light-hearted banter about past podcast moments and future aspirations.

For more information on Donnell Rawlings and his work, visit [donnellrawlings.com](http://www.donnellrawlings.com).

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0:03The Joe Rogan experience Train my day Joe Rogan podcast my night all day I don't know what I'm on a trip to you dirty dumb. Don't do that man. Don't do that man Don't start with that bird flying high You know how I feel I did you You know how I feel day dry it's a new day It's a new dawn they tried the late it's a new life for me and I'm feeling good. You look good. You look real good Would you get that suit? Who made that suit for? La Cotino out of Brooklyn in some Korean I'm tell us that I've been working with for the last two years And they trying to make me go from Ashley to Clare and it's a new day.

0:49I think it looks great And another thing you don't know is about this suit Joe. I smell as good as this suit looks. Okay, we're using for smell What is it called sent a Portrait of a lady. Oh, it's a Arabic company That's all I know And I got a guy that outsources my colon Little here and a little on the wrists. How you do it? I smoke spray it walk through it. I just a cool Spray it walk through it I Am not like okay, we get it. We got some nice colon on right now But it's good to be here. There's something nice about nice suit man. Does make you look it makes you work on your pocket And one thing I did another thing that I came here today and it was my intent Joe to break all the stereotypes So I got here 20 minutes earlier then I was supposed to be here.

1:40You can't join me. It's late you enforce the materials and And I wore suit without a court date without a funeral and without a marriage proceeding So this is a whole this is the whole thing of Daniel in a new day and changing his life. I'm going through transition What motivated this Law and order Law nor did motivate this Law and order first off law and order is one of the most respected. Oh Franchises in the history of it's been around a long time shout out to For me shout out to Dick Wolf and shout out to everybody is a part of that and they say in New York they say that you You can't call yourself an actor in New York unless you've been in law and order.

2:27That's how it makes sense It makes so many how many versions do they have I've been in every when I first begin in my career People really thought I was a dramatic actor more than a comic. I was booking on stuff. I've been on every one of the episode not episodes of shows and Out of them. I think 80 % of them I was arrested And I was like wait a minute and I get a tight cast every time I was able to action I'm like this and what I do what I do this time everyone Every one of them I got arrested for something How many of them are there? How many lawn orders are there? In 10 special victims special victims I'm gonna say I'm gonna guess I'm gonna say five Five different lawn orders.

3:14I'm a side was technically part of it too. Oh, okay. Oh, maybe no This is related never my hold on you got Law and order special victims unit to organize crime three Adaptive series lawn order to run to a criminal intent SUV is a five trial by jury six LA seven true crime eight hate crimes. Oh, it says in development hate crimes Look at him a whole show dedicated hate crimes But that brand is like I don't think those guys I mean did wolf in Arthur for me when I first I did it years ago when I first did it Arthur for me was the director when I did it and that was like and I think like in 2000 and Then recently People love to watch those shows where they get the bad guy Yeah, you have to catch the bad guy and you have to have a bad guy.

4:08Yeah, I think that's a bad guy and you gotta catch him But everybody is everybody is more interested in the bad guy more than anything that's in life general Yeah, that's why you find it so many people that Necessarily don't have a lot of talent, but they subscribe to the bad guy side of it And want to be negative and then everybody draw see that the bad guy is winning like a motherfucker The bad guy is winning In my way Yes, in what way? I'll just say I'll just say like this and I'm not being specific to anybody in general even in and The world of podcasts right now right Demodel for a lot of people now is like say some outlanders shit say some shit That's gonna piss somebody off say some shit that's gonna make you hate make people hate you and now you have a platform And you have a successful platform because at the end of the day with this it's all about engagement It's all about can you get people to engage and At the end of the day if you can do that whether people like you have not you win It's Sword but I think people get tired of that they get tired of conflict if your whole business is conflict People don't want to be in conflict all the time and they realize that a lot of conflict is unnecessary And if you're the type of person that likes to talk about conflict constantly and talk about it online You probably also are willingly participating in it maybe a little too willingly like maybe you're getting You know you're creating problems creating problems in your own life even as you get attention like be careful What you wish for because if you're if you're known for just talking shit about people and then you become successful Then people are gonna talk shit about you They're all gonna come out to you but the people that like that they don't Have a conscience to even care about that.

6:03Yeah, but everybody has a conscience I just think we people accept a certain amount of bullshit. We accept it And I think you should just concentrate on doing whatever the fuck you do well You don't have to just say outland a shit and be so negative. I just don't think it's necessary You don't but you are living in a different world in black Twitter It does work You speak attention. No who you went to the people you're speaking to yes, but black Twitter and on these urban sites Yeah, you could be negative for years in years in years in years in years in years and a mother fucker will come up and That's the truth you have around a world of oh He's a John a good fellow But in that dark world and that black Twitter world it's a lot Lot of negativity and it's very unfortunate.

7:02That is unfortunate That's a very unfortunate thing. I don't enjoy that I get it Twitter it no Insulting people getting mad at people at a certain point in your life. I realized that There's no room for that in life. You don't have to you could avoid it for the most part if you get avoided in your immediate life You could probably avoid it in your internet life too. I think you avoid that conflict and negative energy The more successful you become Because I think that creates a I don't give a fuck about bullshit attitude I think the lot of anger and a lot of frustration that comes with a lot of people is to begin in the stage It's to begin the stages, but when you get like we were talking about it on Earlier You gave me that mother fucking joint too quick we were talking This is a bad one Because I try to get their paws to get my foot back I don't know what the fuck you just gave me but it just erased everything I was just thinking about you were talking about as you Get successful.

8:11It's easier to avoid conflict which I I probably agree with also You're comfortable enough where you could recognize the patterns that are beneficial and not beneficial to you in your life and Conflict is never beneficial to me like even conflict that I've engaged in so that's been your tire That's been your entire not even as a fucking your young Joe Rogan you Well didn't have to enjoy like fuck this a fuck that month. I don't give a fuck you always been this calm You've always been this collected and this calm your entire career. No, definitely not so that goes to my point Yeah, but I learned how to do it because I realized you know what happened once man This is a true story.

8:53I was watching this dude on stage and I was hoping that he was bombing I would hope and he would bomb because he went on after me This episode is brought to you by net suite until they invent crystal ball who knows what the future holds for business Until then over 40 ,000 businesses have future proof their business with net suite by Oracle the number one cloud ERP bringing accounting Financial management inventory and HR into one platform with real -time insights and forecasting You're able to peer into the future and seize new opportunities download the CFO's guide to AI and machine learning for free at net suite dot com slash Rogan That's net suite dot com slash Rogan This episode is brought to you by Buffalo trace distillery actually have some Buffalo trace cigars here They just sent me one of the world's most award -winning distilleries that's been making whiskey the same way for more than 200 years Made as a tribute to the rugged free spirited pioneers who blaze their own trail to new frontiers It embodies the perfectly untamed spirit of independence.

10:06It defines what an award -winning bourbon should be Age nearly twice as long as competitors in new charred white oak barrels and bottled at 90 proof Buffalo trace is the perfect bourbon to be enjoyed in any way anywhere and the taste It's damn good. It's bold and sophisticated yet incredibly smooth Finishing long and deep. It's authentically American Representing uncompromising quality for the rugged the powerful and the passionate tap the banner To learn more or visit buffalo trace distillery dot com that's buffalo trace distillery dot com Distilled aged and bottled by buffalo trace distillery 90 proof franklin county can tucky buffalo trace American family owned Independent and perfectly untamed I didn't want him to do well and I realized to go what a bitch ass way to think that is So you want someone to not do I was 21 And I never forget it, but that's the age though Joe.

11:15That's that age when you lie fucking that's it night night by bow at that age everyone is so ambitious and competitive that was getting into comedy at that time that it was like It wasn't very there wasn't a lot of camaraderie between like the open micers because everybody was like super desperate Like the you remember the desperate days where you weren't sure if you were ever gonna be a professional Like there's desperate days. I've never I never felt that way never I'm telling you It's there's not being cocky or whatever you want to say I've never felt that way like The front to open mics the first open my guy ever did I got a stand in ovation.

11:56That's insane I got a stand -ovation. I think it wasn't a stand -ovation because I had the best material I was the funniest but Earlier on I used to go to the comedy clubs and fuck with comedians Right, and I probably shared it's I used to heckle comedians and people started coming to the show To see me heckle so it was a thing I'm this is that this is why when people say I'm interrupter. I've been interrupter I've been in interrupting before I even got on stage. That's hilarious and how old um, I was like I had to be like 21 or 22 Perfect and the thing was it was started to build people started getting excited for me They knew that I was the guy in an audience.

12:38There was funny But they but it was like some people in clubs they hang around you like man he should do it You know, I mean, like one day he should try so I ruined all other comedians careers whatever You know, I was I just just destroy them. They just come up to me and like um Could you not fuck with me? I'm working on some new material. I'm like it's my job to help you as your job try to be funny You are a professional heckle. I was a professional heckle that is so insane so much that And I drew I was I was drawn to audience That's so how does that happen? It just happened and then Eventually the club wanted me to shut the fuck up Right, they was like, will shut his ends up if he go on stage and then the audience people really started coming to see me talk shit And I think the night the first night I went on I think it was to build up like something people felt like This dude is gone.

13:32They felt like I was working for Safeway as a security guard in the grocery store And the first time I went on stage All the people that for my job used to come they all looked at me like He's about to quit or get fired You know, it was just something that By chance I never thought about doing comedy. I used to go to because I got free promotional tickets I never was the guy when I was younger than 13 when I first looked into the mirror I knew that comedy is what I wanted to do It was never that it just what happened being in that situation I went up I ripped it and when I ripped it The first time I went on stage I knew I was like this is what I will be doing for the rest of my life And I didn't say anything with that thought Joe I didn't feel like I'm gonna be rich.

14:20I'm gonna be famous I'm gonna have a TV show for the first time I went on stage Only thing I want to do is be good. That's the almost To this point my career now. I'm like if you good and this Applies anything in life if you good is something and you're really good at it And you passionate about it and you study it and you just live by the Eventually you gonna get the rewards of that. I never was like I'm gonna get a TV show I was just like man if I'm good I'm gonna be a work disc club if I'm good I'll be a work disc club and then things to start happening for me So I think when I first started My friends and family they was really really Routing for me to do it and the moment I went on stage I was like this is what I will be doing For the rest of my life wow and never thinking about it's gonna make me richer anything Guilty that you started off as a hardcore now that you're a comedian No No Yo, yo, I gotta be honest, man, Joe I gotta be honest.

15:22I like heckling my fuck this Joe. I'm a natural born heckler I like that and DC we call it jonin right jonin that's why did it why did we call jon? I don't know why they called it jonin, but it was just roasting it was the black way of saying if it's if you want to compare It was like roasting what an interesting word jonin Why did they come up with that? Is he think that was like a person who was like really good at it? I don't know if it was a due name jon I don't know that doesn't make sense. I don't know the history a lot of black wears. I'm not gonna have no the history ever you might Uh One of Google have you ever heard that jonin urban dictionary?

16:02Do you ever use as a resource? Jamie yeah Erwin dixer erwin dictionary has saved a lot of we a lot of white people that cook out to barbecues hahaha Yeah, but we and I'm like I used to I used to love heckling I didn't know you couldn't heckling to it. In comedy. There's an unwritten rule. They was like you can't The rule is you can't Jonin put down and make it on someone yep quit jonin on me. He'll get smacked. I wonder who jon was Jon was a lady jon No, I don't think I Know this fool ain't jonin on a whoa. Let me get the rest I'll take the second half you get the first half I get a second this that That's it doesn't it's just could be it Someone just joke like I was probably just someone named Jon it was really good at insulting people.

17:01No, no, no I understand that census No Where I came from that's what it was the joke on the That's what it was erwin dictionary nailed it That's what it was but it wasn't like script it wasn't like Like you have writers or anything like that. It was just you in the moment in the moment You look at a person up and down who you just go for it and I used to oh man. I used to Jon motherfuckers out And then the rule was in comedy you can't you're not supposed to yell out in comedy not supposed to join Or say anything to another comic which I fucking hate this rule Yeah, some people don't like to be interrupted don't I know but don't not everybody likes to do it your way All right, but Joe have you ever felt and you have discipline You've been watching the motherfucker and you just like I just want to say something you never felt like yes I just want to say I want to wait three get off stage.

17:57I want to just say something in that moment Especially if you've had a drink. Yeah Yeah, I've been in a drink like this is nonsense You will just want to yell out. Yeah, and it's not to be like nasty, you just like you just can't help it anymore You got to say some it's so funny so years ago Man Tracy Morgan was at a show and man Tracy Morgan started comedy about the same time and he was like man I'm sticking these wack motherfuckers maize. I just want to say some. I said, but you know you can't heck with the comedies He said we should do a tour Right go all across the country comedy because not to perform just to heck with my focus from the seats Which I thought was a fucking brilliant idea That would be so you talk about something that builds character Could you it's almost like a roast battle.

18:45Can you imagine putting mediocre comedians on stage and having like great comics in the audience Heckle him yep, you know what that would be terrifying it would be terrifying But guess what I guarantee you Joe if you had 20 Media -alcohol comedians wanted to withstand out As the one they were break away. Yes, and if you did something that that's what you would be looking for somebody's gonna say fucking It's gonna be a shark tank. Yeah, right? So you you'll you'll recognize like real early on what of your material soft What if it's but what what what out of your materials bullshit if you have to do it in front of people that you respect It's gonna make you step your shit up or it's gonna make you have Enough attitude and personality to pull any joke off because you know what it is have to shit that you deliver For the most part is stage presence.

19:39Yeah, it's a stage presence. You know, it's how you Respond how do you react to an audience coming at you to David Tell was at the mother shift this weekend Someday night Shhh Man, I don't know. I don't know if there's a funnier person. It's ever existed. I you know, he's so funny Whenever I see his face first of you see David David Tell's face now you saw it 30 years ago Yeah, you know, he's like the white Morgan Freeman of comedy like he's been how he looks forever with a different color black hood You and yeah, and it's so funny you mentioned his name because something came on my thread like a day ago And David Tell's like a type of guy not even hearing what he said you look at him you say I said I need to write more jokes You're like somebody their mere presence Let you know you got to write more jokes because out of all year and I watch David tell 30 years I can't remember a time when he has a win on stage with the mindset.

20:41I'm working on some new shit always always always always You like how to fucking he keep What he's doing this he's just like really focused on that one thing, you know, he used to be an alcoholic and When he quit drinking he got way better when he quit drinking man, you know Like there's something happened to him some comics. There's something that happens They're like their drugs when they're young and then they quit drinking and they're not as good anymore because they're not as fun Because when they were drunk, they were wild. I've figured out a way to balance both You don't and older Joe, but what's gonna say is that it tells the best example because what he did was he quit drinking and then Immediately got way better and just keeps getting better like all that focus is now just on standup I think about that sometimes Dude he was so good.

21:33It was it was mind blowing. He was just on fire. He had a recorder He plays like a little flute. I saw that that's it except it came up And I just thought the one part of memory said you have this instrument You have the head to shaft and the taint He'd say he was reference That the flute or whatever it was To I could of course it was a penis, but I was like that was just fuck. He says he's nice to shit He's got like a formula in his mind of how to make fun of everything And he's so in tune right now that he can just kind of plug it into any subject He just starts writing material, but David's so he's always working on it, but he's not a fun guy to hang out with He's fun to hang out was what I like I feel like he's about to be on law in order so when I hang out with Dave Dave will be talking to you then all of a sudden he just disappeared But maybe it's just me, but yeah, he's not he's not the party guy He was fun hanging out at the mother's ship.

22:33It was like because we have like the green room It's nice Relaxing place where everybody can hang out together, but he's you know He's an odd guy. He carries around a flip phone. He texts you with Like when you press four hours to get a right. Oh, he's doing the old school tests Yeah, you got to present five times to get an ass or whatever it is You remember those I remember those and he does that. That's how he sends you a text message That's doing that with a flip phone. I like that is kept him off of did he's yacht. Yeah No, I'd be connected that would be a connect with too much communication keeps you out of those back rooms and keep you off those yachts That's you don't invite a person to the back room or to To a yacht if he has that phone.

23:23Yeah, something is very suspicious You don't get up you don't get invited to those pot parties to get you move movie deals Oh That's just how they used to do Hollywood man. Oh Hollywood shit old Hollywood did that is exactly how they did everything You know Tarantino is telling us that one of the old producers had a bedroom in his office So he had his office and then you go into his office and he had a bedroom and the bedroom is where he would fuck all the Starlets and so he was the producer and if you're gonna be in his movie, he's gonna fuck you. That's old school a Bedbra. Do you know how in his office?

24:02You know many women sitting now Listening to us and bring back the good old day You know as I mean, I do you I do know you have some women like this fuck that I don't believe it But you do still have a couple of women like I don't want to go to active school I don't want to study. I don't want to do anything. I want to get it pop it Well, it seems like there was a real clean look No disrespect actors, but there's a lot of them and There's a lot of them that probably never make it that if they got the right breaks They could have been as huge as some movie stars that exists today, right? When we agree on that I agree with that would act an animal standout.

24:48Yeah, but but it's specifically for acting Because there's a lot of people that can just go into acting like a lot of athletes Have gone into acting and done amazing jobs But not them to not me too many of them good though, but not you still see Kareem Abdul Jibar Okay, um, who was in that Adam Salon movie with basketball player Rick Fox I have been Fox was taking really really nice Kevin Garnett. That's right He's in That uncut gems movie and he's fucking great. He's not an actor What it wouldn't work the other way you couldn't get a guy to do just stand up and just be fucking great Who's never done stand up true, but you can get an you can get an actor out of a basketball player You get an you could turn a fucking rancher into an actor, right?

25:38He just teach him how to do some guys can do it. What role did he play? He played a basketball player. Come on But he played he played it was whipping off Adam Salon. What the fuck you just said who's put it He played it dude who's ripping off Adam Sandler. It doesn't matter Joe. I get I don't know She was gonna say he played a rocket scientist I'm just saying you're telling me Joe you sin when he was going through basketball his lines to Adam Sandler It's very realistic That he's a basketball player that he's not just a basketball player is a basketball player that's ripping off Adam Sandler He steals a rock from he doesn't want to give a rock there's no way That Kevin Garnett could have fucking ruined this role Even Joe listen to me.

26:24Are you hating? I'm not hating what I'm trying to explain. I feel he's hating no I'm not no started man black Twitter or come for me. I'm not saying that there is no way He could have been bad playing a basketball player He was good dude. I mean, it's a good. Okay, all right. Okay, let me see Watching this yeah, we can't watch it. I know just look it will get in trouble all right You can't watch it, but I just want to see him stand up listen because right there I could see the dramatic side you said but when he stands up He's playing a basketball. He is but I'm telling you it's not about that.

27:02It's about gambling addicts the whole thing's about gambling addicts The whole movie's about gambling addicts. It's a fucking amazing movie right? I mean Not even seeing the dialogue. I mean hearing anything I could see like his face looks and missing But I still see a basketball Kevin Garnett basketball player is this tough. Yeah, I know he's saying but he's Is that a Celtic in this the basketball ring? Yeah Joe he played basketball player. Yeah, but he played himself in this movie He's doing this thing where he's involved in gambling addiction There are there are all just making crazy bets dude the movie will give you anxiety I'll check it out like real anxiety like oh, don't don't fucking do it.

27:46Don't fucking do it So he was can and Kevin Garnett So it's a good guy. I wasn't trying to shit on I know you are I know you what I'm saying is it like because you kids The minute you start Joe you say why you hate the next thing? The next thing you know I'm being attacked by every urban block in a country Joe Rogan was hate no camera guard next It shouldn't act it's just play basketball that was certainly not my words. I know it's not your words, but it's a passion of my words Yeah, and that's how it starts even that's not what you really meant But it's but I'm saying is like I think out of all the things acting is probably even though some people are In genius at it don't get me wrong the most Duable to a person like that's the most I mean it's You're most likely to be able to figure out how to do it like you might not ever be able to figure out how to sing You know you might not ever be able to figure out how to stand up, but you're you could probably figure out how to act Yeah, I thought it's just pretend pretend and then you could get trained Yeah, I still think it's something inside of you inside of you as an actor that takes you above the person just like equally trained Yeah, there's something that drives you to want to do some different and make different choices as an actor Yeah, it's called being mentally ill Yep, and you're absolutely 100 percent most actors are have some type of mental disorder To think about it to play it's like you plan make believe all the time Profession and then if you get really famous for playing make believe at a certain point in time You're probably like who the fuck am I who who actually am I?

29:29Oh, who do I want to be? Yeah? I mean, but you think you think you are this person Because you are getting all this adoration from all these people to see you play different people in movies I didn't even know you right and then you like what the fuck How weird is this world that I've created where everybody loves me and they like me to pretend to be different people like who the fuck am I? But at the same time you can give whoever you want to be that day Yeah, I think we I think we fucking when we wake up in the morning. We go we get acting mode You go to bed you fucked up about something and you wake up in the morning like you know what?

30:04Fuck that bitch. I'm gonna have a great day You're acting like you're not dealing with what you did the day before I think that's a part of our life You and I know this is a crazy question you've heard it before and it's like a generic question when you have a comedienne has done some acting stuff for it's a more challenging for you Acting or more challenging As a stand -up development new material Well, it depends on what you'd be doing for acting like I've never done a real dramatic movie or a dramatic role in a TV show Everything I've ever done just been silly so That's a different kind of acting like comic acting is you know, it's just it's basically scripted shit talking You know at some point when even with acting there's a moment.

30:54This is the the scariest part for me I can go in front of 25 ,000 and thank you you Platforms work that many people I can go from a 25 ,000 people and it feels This episode is brought to you by Buffalo trace distillery actually have some Buffalo trace cigars here They just sent me one of the world's most award -winning distilleries that's been making whiskey the same way for more than 200 years made as a tribute to the rugged free spirited pioneers who blaze their own trail to new frontiers it embodies the perfectly Untamed spirit of independence it defines what an award -winning bourbon should be aged nearly twice as long as competitors in new charred white oak barrels and bottled at 90 proof Buffalo trace is the perfect bourbon to be enjoyed in any way Anywhere and the taste it's damn good.

31:53It's bold and sophisticated yet incredibly smooth Finishing long and deep. It's authentically American Representing uncompromising quality for the rugged the powerful and the passionate tap the banner to learn more or visit Buffalo trace distillery dot com that's Buffalo trace distillery dot com Distilled aged and bottled by Buffalo trace distillery 90 proof Franklin county can tucky Buffalo trace American family -owned Independent and perfectly untamed I can hear and now it feels Amazing, but it's the silence of when you know There's like 150 people behind the camera that Re -line one what you do right now and that that silence quiet When everybody's completely focused on that one person one of you got to deliver that line and then action That shit is terrifying That shit is fucking I'm telling you I could I've done shows that you were Dave where I've you guys created platforms to come on in the arena Like I'm about to beat the fuck a word a But the minute you say quiet and you like and Action action.

33:13Yeah, and then you got to go That and you got to really rehearse that thing really know what you're saying while you're saying it because you have to repeat these words in that order You're not freestyling you said earlier all the actors have you been silly stuff I think maybe first four five part for first Four five years of my career Everything now booked was dramatic Hmm Nobody thought I was comedian or if you want to say a comedian acting to the Chappelle show Hmm, I had did like all of the law notice. I had did H .B .O.'s the corner Where I played a heroin addict I think this was like the third audition that ever went on third audition that ever went on Davis Simon um Alex Foley She's a big big time Foley or Foley's been long time since it's been New York time maybe since the last name But she casts all at the wire sopranos All that stuff I went into an interview.

34:20I went into audition For the wire just I'm sorry. This is Jackie Brown Carmen Alex was when we did um when we went back and did the corner, but I mean the wire but for the corner it was Jackie Brown Carmen. I went in for this audition. The audition was as uh as a heroin addict Right Charles Dutton directed this series in one three um three uh Emmys I played the character bird that's my friend clock Peters. He's an incredible incredible fucking theater actor came from the theater background So I'm doing I'm doing audition Joe. Just out and I'm I'm green as shit in audition And I'm like man I'm fucking this shit up man.

35:03I ain't gonna get this shit Jackie Brown Carmen said down there relax Become god is in the room You'll be okay And I fuck with God, but I didn't know of God goes to auditions Which you are not how much it will help right and I did my lines again And I still thought I formed it. I was like man. I understand her support or whatever. I'm like man Fuck the shit. I just started saying anything right For days later I swear sometimes you don't audition you kind of feel when you're gonna at least get a call back Right, I get they get called it said you booked it. I was like what the fuck I was like I could not believe I was like I don't know how the fuck that happened I was like I know I wasn't prepared I was just saying anything and I wanted to get the fuck out of here and just go run right back to the stage Fuck acting.

35:50I want to work on my jokes So we can on set David Simon He used original right of the book the corner Um with another police officer. It was he did police journalism and Baltimore So I saw more set and I was I got a quote he was like man. Thanks for being part of it. I was like I got a question I just had to know right I was like I said how the fuck did I get this role? Right, I'm already booked. I said I swear. I thought I bombed that audition And he said down there we like the way you threw the lines away Right So if you mean not prepared He said we like the fact that you threw the lines away and he said another thing you didn't feed into the stereotype of the guy's addiction Because everybody was going in there was just going straight to the lean of the addiction The worst part of it being high and audition and I didn't want to see that they want to see who is this person not being high And because I was off because I said fuck it I'm going to just say it my way.

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36:55That's what fucking got me to roll on that shit Well, that's probably the hardest thing to do is to just say just a free ball And be in and you know just say I don't even remember the lines, but this is what I would fucking say Like if you but if you do that But some plays some platforms they they will allow that. Then you get sticklers like when you start talking about HB on those guys. It's like they want you to say every word. There was all that fucking paper But they also want someone who really sounds like they can say those words. A great you like There's there's things that a person has like a type of charisma that a person has like a person like yourself that like You either have that or you don't and if you have it And you can deliver it in some form Some way you could be coached or someone can figure out I like like that will I'll help you memorize the lines will work through them together We'll go over things, but in the end It's you it's you it's got you you got to go be you but Not everybody can even pretend to be you everybody Yeah, you know what I'm saying everybody don't have to take those chances because it's a wet and I've never been trained But well one thing I've it's always resonated when you talk about acting is like Make a decision right and let them Bring you back.

38:16Yeah, you know, I mean it's better to go all out then to not do it and not When when I was doing HBO's to wire this one scene when I get pulled over in the cop in the car in the car And I got like 30 ,000 dollars of people don't know of his drug money political money or whatever and I get arrested for it and in the next scene Some kind of way they have to let me go With the money basically I came in with 30 ,000 dollars and I'm leaving with 30 ,000 dollars And I just say I'm a dual law improv right so it was like action and when I left out the room I was I said I threw the money over back in my show and I said Some people got to have it Some people really don't let money change and I look back at the cops and say oh my Everybody left but it was like nah, we ain't gonna use that shit right there But it's like making like At least they knew that I would take the chance you'll freeble yeah, yeah, you'll be loose and that's a thing It's like some people just just can't be loose.

39:27They just can't figure that thing out to be free There's always in their own way, but I think I think for me even when acting this made it um Like fun the times I get it is that I've got enough I've made a nice success in comedy And created pretty good lifestyle off of that that I don't have that pressure of having to book a role Right, you know, I mean like a lot of actors now. It's like if they got to get this series You know, I mean right just to continue their lifestyle in the house So it's always it's for me acting's always been like oh, I'm just playing around. It's fun I mean, right, you know get it.

40:07That's the best way to do it. Yep. Especially if you you know if your standup is going well Like everything just sort of can be fine You don't really care if you're doing a movie here or there But if you were only doing movies like those folks during the pandemic that kind of just went back to acting right because of a few comics I was gonna pandemic. I was so happy that she was over because I got sick of these writers that we never heard about Do a spot It was like this this guy wrote for family guy. We're like what a fuck you being you even in the trenches No, like that people that realize they have fucking mortgages.

40:42Yeah, that's what happens And then they realize oh my god. I'm so connected to the TV system that if it goes down because of the pandemic or another pandemic I don't work for a year and a half like what the fuck are you talking about? I think that many people have to figure out what their pivot was Yeah, well they you can't rely too much on a system that doesn't give a fuck about you and A system that if you if you're paying attention to where it's going a large amount of it is about to get sucked up by AI Like a giant chunk of the entertainment. Yeah, I mean I'm a giant chunk Tyler Perley it was a story of me like three weeks ago And I think he was in the middle of either Produced a movie of doing something and he was building an 800 million dollar studio and he paused the construction As soon as he saw what is it called Sora Sora?

41:35It create create entire scenes entire scenes entire scenes look realistic Have you seen it? I haven't seen it watch this video came out yesterday. I think this is like a balloon head guy's like a short film It all these scenes supposedly. I guess I've made my Sora So this is all AI Jesus. Yeah, it's over I don't know about the audio that we don't afterwards It's just in my case, you know, it's quite obvious what that thing is I am literally filled with hot air Yeah, living like this has its challenges windy days for one or particularly troublesome Or there was a one -time my girlfriend insisted I go to the cactus store to get my uncle's area wedding present This is crazy.

42:20What do I love most about my predicament? That's pretty well made. I was And that's somebody just putting in information and that's been created. Yeah, the new world entertainment Joe This is what my prediction is this is such a leap. This is such a leap above everything Now you add that to add this this is what's going to happen eventually And this is not the right thing to say Especially about Hollywood the idea of agencies The idea of a and r All of those jobs are about to be gone and only thing you're going to have is content creators And the content creators are going to cut the middleman of the agency out and they're going to go straight to the advertisers and the people to pay the money You having to be connected With a certain entity or a certain agency and they probably kill me after this Joe I'm true.

43:18I just makes me a lumina right now. They don't kill me Joe cat. Williams everybody I'm telling it's gonna come where All of those things That you needed to make it aren't gonna exist anymore And we're we're we're we're closer that right now. Well, we already lost sitcoms So sitcoms were number one right? That was like a number one job for a comedian you get your own show Yeah, that was the only job you wanted that was the job that everybody wanted and then they had comedy movies Well comedy movies have been drastically reduced So the sitcoms gone and then the comedy movies have drastically been reduced But what are most people want to do for it Joe?

44:00What did what did the comedians wanted that for? Two things money and fame yeah because There was no social media and there was no YouTube and so ticket sales were really dependent upon you being on a television show 100 % yeah, it was a big factor and it was and this is like you probably heard this And it's a conversation when it comes to especially when it comes to comedy You got the YouTube comedians you got the social media comedians like comedy now is broken down And to so many definitions of what comedy is now We first thought there was only one definition to minute you heard someone say comedian It was nothing but a guy who grabs a mic stands flat foot in the entertains audience It wasn't a comedian on boats.

44:47It wasn't that when you say comedian you just Associated with them boats You know, I mean just like No disrespect to the movies guys is that we're talking about they find a lane and they love it But that's a tough life, you know Yeah, that's a tough life trap trapped on that boat telling them some fucking jokes But then some people got miles to feed some people like this. They look at that. They look at the um level of competition They look at this they like this you know what and those guys are six figures Yeah, they make six figures. Yeah, they do most of guys that do it is I don't it's just to think it to a point I've talked to guys.

45:22They didn't like doing it Yeah, but they like it's very kind of depressing for some reason your first year or so It's probably not especially if you're doing like $30 spots in Brooklyn here like when I was that was a come up when I started Mm -hmm when I started it's like oh your cruise ship. I mean really oh yeah, it was Because we really have a lot to look up to other than just making Making money off of it You know, so that was it was a regular job in stand -up comedy But the point I was making about even with that the different definition of comedian and people And they always they break like all the old hands have a way of thinking yeah, this net the the the thing that you have to credit is The work ethics you have to have to get to a certain level as if you want to say social media Comedian or you it's a certain level.

46:13It's a certain work ethics. You have to be to do to get consistent with that But the problem is the the what Some people have issues with it's like yeah, but some of them not that good You know how hard it is to get good is something when you're already a millionaire doing it at whatever level you know What pushed us when we were coming up was that if I get good I can get the money right But now it's like they got the money. So what is the urgency Unless you get that one or two this really really care about the craft What is the who cares about being good at it when and result is I'm getting paid off the shit Well, you always want to be good at what you do don't you Some people but the level of getting good at now is different Like today people getting good at knowing algorithms There's a lot of that you know, I'm saying they get going good at knowing what the system is which is Which is fucking incredible if you put talent on top of that right?

47:14You know It should be yeah, if you're smart person you know how to really utilize the system I want to say manipulate, but that's the wrong word it really is utilized you It's just you're like mr. Beast that's perfect example right that guy figured out like how to make the right Captions and how to make the right image for the that you click on for the YouTube videos the right the right title And then he figured out how to just keep dumping money into his product And he figured out exactly where the algorithms are and he has it translated into different languages and that's a definite That's that's when I'm saying is That's the skill set this going to get rid of the job guys are unicorn though But here's the thing I feel like if you have AI Like whatever the next generation of chat GPT is you Could be able to devise a very effective business plan that like really means sense the AI would sort of guide you Step by step like this is what you're gonna do to achieve Success it'll probably even break it down if you write for 20 minutes every day that will increase your your time of material by 50 minutes over the course of the next Ten months and if you like do all the calculations like holy shit is that real?

48:36If you really thought about it that way like through artificial intelligence you let it guide your career It'll probably do a fucking amazing job Like putting you into the perfect position to me. I mean if you if article audition and against motherfuckers All artificial intelligence guy you like you you send in your taping and then they got a motherfuckin as audition like this Hey, I need I need Joe to be a police officer arrest these guys for stealing don't know you we have to realize we're that close To them they're being fake people were that close. I'm dead before they show no I already were regular fake people Now we got artificially creative fake people.

49:20Oh Hollywood is fucking They're in trouble. Oh Hollywood's dead. No no no for real though. Hollywood's dead. Just look at that movie you buried it you held buried it I didn't do shit. Yes you did you you you you you help bury it You help you showed motherfuckers something you could do today probably didn't think you could do it Go somewhere post up do your shit and create a whole fucking comedy community in Austin. Yeah, I didn't think I could do it either You know you could do it. I did not know I did it. I did not know I just did it. That's why I'm I'll tell you And you have like You're doing it a lot of people doing it But I did your club the mothership and it's like Anybody not anybody if you have enough money you could build up a nice club Right, it's a nice club stay to the yard whatever But it doesn't make it a comedy community right you know I'm saying it's like That's gonna be the challenges of like all these people that open up comedy clubs and stuff Davis opened up one.

50:28I think Mike just a lot of them like popping up and I think that's the Top thing but the thing is like it's it's a difference between having a comedy community You know, yeah, you have to do that on purpose. Yeah, you know And that's one of the things that we did when we opened up the club was set up like a whole like these are the nights You're gonna have open mic, you know, we're gonna have comedians audition to be door people so that like they'll be able to see Guys like David tell who's just there sweet and then you'll have like this very clear pathway There's like open mic night The talent coordinator would be there.

51:09He'd be able to watch you Maybe he can even give you some tips other comics can watch you they see you work in the door You get to see all this great comedy you get to be around all this great comedy and then there's a lot of places to go in town And we'll let you punch out seven the left people punch out like a comic has a set down the street They can punch out go run the street you said come back to me. It's just seven days a week right yeah, we're seven days a week That's how I gauge whenever I go and you'll never see any tonight's open mic night to I always gauge a club Not gauge them, but you could tell how successful a club is if they could run fucking seven nights a week well, it's um You know, it was the perfect timing.

51:46It's it's just a weird Coincidence of all these things happening that open to all these doors at exactly the same time like it's like we're going down the street And you hit every green light like magically and it just goes you know It's a system in New York if you on those streets second Avenue in a street if you drive 30 28 miles an hour You'll catch every light from like 23rd street till about 115. That's the fact. I know you didn't know I'm not trying I've heard that yeah, I think it's I think it's 28 miles an hour you use a straight shot wow A couple of cats and dogs will get ran over in that process, but Long as you might maintain that consistency of 28 miles an hour you won't you won't stop Huh That was a fact that I know you didn't know I had heard that before I had heard that from cab drivers Is there anything you haven't heard you a this point time?

52:40I always think that but then johnin comes along and throws me for a loop At 16 it's 16 the last time I was here. You didn't know what hot 16 was that's right. I didn't Yeah, but you asked me you asked me about this suit look sweet and as I'm watching myself in the camera I'm like did I go overboard? No, no, no, no you look great. I wish I'd known I would have wore a suit too. I like wearing a suit I know I remember when we were doing yeah, we did those A range of rain and shows and and your whole energy Change what you had a suit on Like I did on my sweater. I said stop my feet. You start stomping your feet And you said you know you could do your set, but it's just something about Something that's classic about being able to do stand up in the suit There is something about and that's how I felt even when when I did new day First off this was my third time shooting this special I Told you story.

53:37Yes, and I remember every and I and I was really getting stressed because every time I saw you You would like when is the special coming up When is this but I'm like I don't know I fucking shot this shit. I don't know first time I did the special doing the pandemic at the end of the pandemic when The clubs still had all this Covid protocol and their last hot yeah mask on didn't yeah vaccination cards Have you been tested in what shot you had Johnson and Johnson and all that shit We did in North Carolina And we outback was already against it because the venue I chose it held 600 people I think was a film or theater 600 700 people And we had a cell of 700 people But then when Netflix like out where's your card out where's this it went down the first year went down like 250 people Oh, they had a vaccine cards to get in all that shit It's which means now in the back of the show you got to put a black curtain.

54:37Oh, no Now you like like looking at like a half -field audience They got mask going to shit. Oh, no, did the show first show went well Right first show went well and then Dave was like because he produced it Dave said um You know if we don't get it we can shoot it again I'm like motherfucker. No time to shoot this we don't get it this time Second time at it I could stand in all Stand late them going crazy Ricky Hughes going crazy. We're like oh, we got it. We got it and we announced That my specials on come out the same time we announced the earthquake specials going to come out A week after that announcement Dave calls me he says don ill I want to shoot your special over I'm like you know how some of those insults and things you tell a committee wanted you know the first thing you think what it wasn't funny Right, that's the first thing He was like I can put your front of any audience you are ripped in room He said but doesn't make it a great special He said of everybody and the umbrella of the home team That people are really anticipating because your connection with that show is you if we're gonna do it.

55:41We got to get it right It was tough Because I'm like all this gonna be the joint and give me a platform for people to see me do stand up but we Basically Scrafted shit. He said don't know you had too much covid jokes in there And think about it. I would have shot a special What would mask in it? Yeah, it automatically dates you to 2020. Yeah, so as you turners. I audition was doing a pandemic. How wild was the pandemic? I miss it. I was thinking about the other day. I miss it man. I miss Not having to be around a lot of motherfuckers I missed how people appreciated Simple things I miss how When you had a bubble you could block all this negative all the haters out You want to come inside the bubble because you give me six feet big Bitch give me six feet the bubble and invite who you want to I missed I missed how People appreciate like I think we should do like a lockdown week a worldwide lockdown week One year when a whole Fucking world just shuts the fuck down Yeah, that would be great except you can't tell people to shut things down because then you're gonna give the power to the government to shut things down Whenever they want for a week and then they might just hide two weeks is better maybe a month Like you can't I know I know I can't give them the power to shut things down if people decide to not do What we should most so we could vote on like a lock down like national lockdown day Don't want to take away freedom from people.

57:18I don't want to take away free people want to do it They should be able to do it if you all agree to do it on your own. I fuck that fuck that Joe Joe what happened when we start making people do something guess what happened When you make somebody do something when you make somebody wash their hands when you make somebody give you six feet When you make them do something It forces some type of change. I'm not saying forever But I think that we should have a joint where we just lock down everything Fucking week everything is dead It was fun Some people died Not that many In comparison in people that live not already sick It is it is a disease that killed people for sure, but it's a disease that killed people with What was the percentage?

58:08It's like a large percentage of them had four comorbidities Oh, yeah, large percentage of the people that died from code four so it's just four different things that are killing you It just say wrap it up. It's like that came along to an already compromised human which is not to say that Could shouldn't you know try to help compromise humans, but I'm saying that It's It's not what they were selling it as or what people were terrified that it was gonna be Yeah, but I know was I mean for me it was so weird what it did for us man When do you remember those days at stubs? I went to stubs the other day to see the black keys And it just brought me back to those days at stubs we did those shows there was like there was a wild Crazy feeling about doing something when no one else was doing it was fucking I got high off of this it was exciting There was still doing comedy man.

59:02We were shut down We were still doing comedy we were still eating with groups of people We're hanging out that's what I'm saying about appreciated then even like but a lot of people thought we were reckless But you know every part of this it was protocol. Yeah, it was like hey, come every part of it You weren't gonna be around anybody that hadn't been tested period right and that's it was just something about it even when we saw each other was like oh shit We doing we we got excited about doing regular shit. Yeah Even when all of our crew caught COVID at the same time it was like a chickenpox party We went down from a team of 24 and every day.

59:44This is what I knew was getting bad because I used to plan like the lunches for everybody And uh and we had lunch like a 12 o 'clock every day and they're like I wonder what we're gonna have to lunch It'll be 24 people then once the once the bubble pop it one day it was 22 it was 20 It was 19 it went down to 12 To to four people you had to fill for yourself Oh fucking crew Quoted and this is pre vaccines. This is pre that was right. It was right when vaccines was about to pop because I had somebody I know this sounds so ghetto I had somebody that could get me to Johnson Johnson on the low On the low.

1:00:24Yeah people were excited to get it at the beginning all of it. Yeah, I got it. I got it quick too I almost got it. Yeah, I got lucky see now you like to look at does that now now I'm wondering every since I got it I'm waiting for some shit to happen in my body Then I can contribute to that shit. Well a lot of people can it did something to a lot of people You know, it's got a very high rate of side effect. Why you fucking with me now man Does Which one I think all of them And what I think I don't think any of them are good for you. I didn't So let's put out I think if you were an old person and it was the first go around of COVID it probably would help you But I think there's there's a lot of problems with that thing What's been well?

1:01:13There's a lot of side effects I mean there's The craziest thing that's going on right now is the increase in all cause mortality That's the crazy thing dude took a vaccine. Yeah, there's an excess death There's like a excess death You like number increase that's pretty It's if you if you are a statistic Statistics statistician if you're statistics person and you were looking at indications that something went wrong You would say well, was there anything that caused These people's bodies to change where we're getting this large number of excess deaths And some people would be man as many as 40 percent Why you fuck with me man?

1:01:5840 % excess deaths and what type of shit? I think it just means like 40 % more people died than normally do Basically, that's what it means, right? Jamie black excess does black Everybody Everybody and a lot of it is cardiac stuff cardiac stuff went way up You know, but a lot of people got it and nothing happened to them. They're fine You know, I feel like that was just personal tackle me like you know, who's a he was like don't know you got Dejab twice listen, I would have got it. I was ready to get it I just I didn't get it just because they couldn't do it. I had to go to a clinic Where they asked for it or whatever and then I said I'll get it when I come back next time and between that time and me coming back next time They had already pulled it they pulled it because of blood clots Yeah, I got it because it was work.

1:02:50It was like I noticed sounds crazy, but you couldn't like if you were um working As a working actor and you couldn't work you couldn't work you couldn't work So I know some people made it. I mean, I know people like yeah, you compromised your body and And then some because some areas people think it's like oh, it's the white man trying to control you Yeah, but it was at one point. It was like if you were trying to work you wasn't working unless you had it Yeah, you you weren't going anywhere. You weren't flying anywhere. Yeah, it was a real issue And there's still there was a lot of countries that until recently you had to have a vaccine card including America You had to have a vaccine card to get in unless you walked across the border of course Shout out to the mix then you come right in They had um, where was uh, where was in Canada they can Australia they had the biggest they was I think they were the most Australia was crazy.

1:03:42They were putting people in camps. Yeah, if you were sick they'd take you put it You could have been fine and you couldn't travel period No, you just were there, right? And if you got sick and then they put you in that camp you can't go anywhere And there's fucking armed people out there waiting for you and I didn't have that much they didn't have that much death That's all it worked well No No Didn't work first of all it's a terrible idea to just round people up and make them go to camps because they're sick You don't let love allow them to stay at home you Determined where they can move and not move you were resting people for wearing masks outside none of that is scientific None of it works.

1:04:19There's never been a respiratory disease. You don't think like that. You don't think like that Help does it all no Not at all so you think it would have just been passing if we wouldn't have to lock down and all of protocol Maybe it slowed the rate of people getting it maybe you could say that and Maybe for older people it Protected them from being in contact with people that would give it to them Okay, maybe but in terms of what it did to the economy and what it did to the small businesses and all the small restaurants and How many people how many people went into drug addiction because they're fucking whole life everything they work for fell apart How many people lost everything through no fault of their own people that have been working for decades in restaurants and Small mom and pop shops.

1:05:09They would just all went under none of them could handle that year and a half where you couldn't work at all It doesn't make any sense Any sense that anyone could have ever watched that happen see that 70 % of the restaurants were crumbling in front of them and not to make some sort of a correction I know I don't make any sense that they didn't I see the aftermath when I go that I wasn't sent to Whenever I go to cities and you can you look at the downtown area? So that's all from the lockdowns man That's a big part of it where people can't work for a year and a half Yeah, but then you just you're gonna have so many more homeless people You can have so many more people that are in despair so many more people that become alcoholics Remember all the people that were drinking like crazy during the pandemic was that was the best time to just lady made a video She was jogging down their street taking Video of all the different recyclables that people had out.

1:06:04It's all just bottles of tequila and bottles of wine Don't abandon me. Yeah, people are going hard. Yeah. I was part of that bubble the bubble That was it was a good bubble and it was felt of the freedom when we all came together Here's the thing though the lockdown was a terrible idea. It's terrible for everybody's terrible for kids Terrible for everybody you know it might have you can make an argument that it might slow the spread of the disease But you know there's just so much they did to suppress alternative They had to do it. I think do we had to do something Yeah, well they what they should have done is listen to all the doctors instead of just the doctors That wanted to vaccinate people because there was a lot of doctors that were prescribing alternative treatments.

1:06:48There's different remedies There's a bunch of different things they did that helped people that got sick especially monoclonal antibodies There's a lot and then they stopped giving those to people they stopped making them accessible once you were in the hospital They wouldn't let you have it like there was so much shit that went on that was just if you just if you wanted to be really Really Clear with what you're looking at you would say have to say god I think this is motivated more by money than taking care people So much of it so much of it 100 % Pfizer Moderna Johnson and Johnson they they all came on you can't even even have even a test.

1:07:27That's what they do right That's what they do so we need so we need a we need a pandemic or something because Catastrophic like that to happen before a big business can make more money No, we need AI so somebody's that there so did me AI is gonna put the kabosh on all of it AI is going to I think we're gonna have president AI That's what I think I think we're gonna realize people are too emotional and easily distracted and too corrupt And just like this the percentage of corruption is costing this amount of money the So we're gonna have direct allocation of money to this and that and yeah AI president over AI president.

1:08:06Yeah I'm not kidding a lot of people with actually what you're smoking right now, Joe No, so what you do you vote for this? How do you how does well here's the thing if if they really want Complete total control. They'll trick you and To telling you that you don't need to vote anymore because AI is going to equitably distribute all wealth all Social services all housing everything's gonna be even for everybody AI knows how to do it. It's gonna stop all international conflict. It's gonna have a perfect Carbid neutral existence while powering everything up, but it has to take control But somebody has to be in control of what you Somebody so it's just gonna be anybody.

1:08:54No, not not necessarily To control the information to give AI to do everything you just said no no no no no no What what happens is AI or achieves what they call sentient AI like So what it is is it at a certain point in time if artificial intelligence gets good enough It's going to be autonomous. It's gonna be able to control itself And it's gonna be able to make better versions of itself It's not gonna be as simple as you made a thing and now I programmed into the thing what the parameters of this thing are And now this thing can act like a person No, you turn it into a life form and then you say you have the ability to create better versions of yourself Well that thing is there in a shitting right now that thing's gonna be a god Okay, that thing that's gonna be a god that thing might be four years away from us right now All right Like no bullshit like 2029 it might be a real thing by then with the way Technology is moving so fast like we didn't even think about AI being a threat Um dead -be -dad's are gonna leave If you could do a a version of being a dad They're gonna be like fuck it.

1:10:06I'm out of here. You go fuck with junior. I'm gone. Uh I can't believe it but you can't believe their human beings are gonna live in alternative realities It's not gonna be as simple as you know now all of a sudden there's artificial intelligence It's artificial intelligence that can give you whatever Elixir you need to keep you happy And that's what it's probably going to do to people. It's probably gonna figure out a way to sedate people So how are people gonna become calm? How people and let them breathe stop breathing. So how are people Going to be able to work and provide for themselves. It's just gonna be a different It's gonna be a different skill set It's gonna be different type of jobs How are humans gonna be able to compete with AI?

1:10:55Well, we're not That's the thing. It's not possible If if they reach a certain point So if you just think about do you know what an exponential increase in technology is I don't Exponential means it's not as simple as like one plus one equals two It's at you got to think that it with each Like you know how they they do like a Funnel and they have a quarter and they spit the quarter around the funnel at the bottom it gets faster and faster That's how exponential increase in technology works with each invention it be gets it makes all these other inventions And they all accelerate and as they do it it happens so fast and so quick That this exponential thing is hard to understand Because it's just it's not like each step is one more.

1:11:47It's like earthquakes You know like a 7 .1 earthquake is like Way stronger than a seven and they just get bigger and because it's exponential That's the same thing with technology. It's gonna happen so fast that the increase in power And it's ability to do whatever it wants to do is gonna happen so quick Well, what we want to do is alive. It's just gonna make better versions of itself like immediately What do we do what we Is nothing will be able to do to get our fuck that's what I was there will be no more jobs You first started this shit. I was like every time you build up and said what the fuck you said I said we are fucked We're fucked.

1:12:24We're fucked. We're fucked. It's already having them work as kitchen assistants Where they talked to you in your kitchen they got robots I went to a robot of restaurant other day and a robot motherfucker pulled up with the noodles and all that type of shit I go to studios I go to I go to like good day Pittsburgh and all this type of shit and where you used to go in those places And see like 12 cameraman is one producer and all the cameras are fucking robotic Didn't we learn from my robot? No, we didn't why didn't we learn from those movies? Why didn't we learn from Terminator? Cuz the fuck is wrong with us the reason why because we thought it was just a movie Why didn't we learn from George Jetson?

1:13:03Yo, that was my state of the art shit You know, I'm so old yo that when I see where I remember when thinking about George Jetson my mind said was like That will never Fucking happen and my son has a phone what it got down Video video camera, right because we don't believe the shit is gonna happen But it happens so fast. That's another example of exponentially increasing took on that's why Joe that's why I Fuck with the woods Yeah, that's why Joe I said fuck Hollywood. I'm going from the streets to the creeks get yourself. I said I'm going from the hoods Get a salad. No You get all the survivors get a satellite phone go to the woods and then what who the fuck you go call?

1:13:51You want you the only but That's how they get that photo up this decided I'm going from the streets to the creeks from the hoods to the woods from horse to ores from Adidas To teevas Joe my whole mindset my whole thing is a fucking new day. Hmm fuck Hollywood God, I don't think it really exists for us anymore. No, like comedy Hollywood like comedy Hollywood comedy Hollywood is a ghost town It's not dead anymore. You ex you are an example. There's a lot of other examples of You can literally make Hollywood wherever the fuck you want to make Hollywood But it's not even it's not only reason what I'm doing now is for the parties, Joe And nobody's going to those parties anymore.

1:14:36You gotta tell them no There's a lot it's hard not to think about it, but there's a lot of people that that's not just There's not just in the case with Diddy It's not like this shit that's happening with him right now This shit being going on in Hollywood forever I'm not saying it's right, but at some point you gotta say no You that that's the simplest thing to tell somebody the best vice. All right, this guy's Get ready bring a baseball bass. Tickety ass was a line of cocaine. What are you going to tell him? Broom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, uh You gotta tell him no Bro, that's some next level shit.

1:15:24What the what the parties in yeah, it's not Joe You don't know about the parties Joe. I don't got all those parties. I didn't say if you fucking went to the parties I said do hear rumors Joe Joe you don't know about these parties You don't know about these parties. You don't know about the parties with a muffin coming to you You with your girlfriend and they like I like both of you. You don't know about these parties You never heard about these parties. No, you never heard about you never had anybody come up to you And and they say shit like this Joe So we think you're cute. We Get it You never heard about these parties Joe Now the question is how many of them are out there and do you think that's a Hollywood thing?

1:16:09Uh, I think that is definitely More prevalent in Hollywood than in like Oklahoma, but I pretty sure these type of parties and things exist The part of my map just deviance is this deviance Yeah, I guess what we want to do for the most For the most part of our life Joe. You know We want to dance with The devil Most people have more fun With the devil than with God Hmm God is the party pooper is this the part where you announce the opening of your new church You know what Joe? Joe I listen you might not agree with this, but I don't know about I work I'm not sure I want to do it. I'll get it. Yo, Henderson did it at AI church.

1:17:02I can get my own church Right have my own people to come because I want to have a church with people like like like like like like fuck with God But don't really fuck with God Right, and let me get you want to try to put them on the path put them on the path I want the people to fuck with God, but don't fuck with God and the reasons why what I'm trying to say Joe is like I fuck with God And I don't fuck with God and the reason why I say I don't fuck with God like I never abused I'm never like oh god, please this light is about to turn red. I can't eat this 75 dollar ticket. God Please help me.

1:17:36I don't use God for shit like that. I would never be like oh god Oh god, it's 12 o 'clock. I hope the burger king drive through the line is still open I really need a wiper my way God. Please help me God. I don't fuck with God like that when I fuck with God's like this my lady's pregnant God, please give me a healthy baby That's reasonable. That's that's the I know I'm not gonna start a church church But the idea of getting people to feel like they're thinking about like that's that's how I feel Hmm that's gonna be The my change I'm gonna start a church They're fuck with people to fuck with God, but don't fuck with God Specifically yeah What do you think I like it you definitely give me a preacher.

1:18:29I like the way you dressed. I see you in a brown jet I see you in front of a rolls Royce you listen me for With your big smile on the face I don't want that You can do it though. Come on if that fucking that guy words his name that does it Joel Come on. Yeah, you don't think you dominate in that world No, but I do think that there's a place for people that there has to be a church or something for people that are On perfect there would be a cool Go for a lot of things. I think we're like Um of people's with religion or anything that you have to Be perfect to a be part of it or to understand it and I don't think that's the case I believe it's something that Makes you feel good people make the argument is it really was not but it's something this spiritual That makes a person feel good want to do better and want to live a right way So if I if I had a church that's if I was to even We're joking about it, but that would be like the type of energy that I will fuck with Well People would like something like that because there's a lot of people that don't want to go to like a traditional church But they're interested In the idea of it, you know, the way it's been described to me the best way.

1:19:46I think Jordan Peterson was the first person tell me this That he even if you don't Necessarily believe in God if you live like you believe in God You will live a better life if you follow those principles And just try to believe You'll live a better life Even if even if you think in your logical mom, which is really fascinating, right? Even if you think in your logical mom What is the possibility that one grand creator has this Insane connection to everything that happens all throughout the universe and there's some sort of a divine plan To every word you say and everything you do and every event that ever takes place in your life And everyone's life around you Yeah, it's a lot of people are like I don't know how to do if you do believe that That's what they what that's what you do believe that you live like that you you'll have a better life But I think everybody needs to believe in something something.

1:20:49Yeah, you got to believe in something And that's why from my point about like the devil everybody wanted to dance with the devil Devil has the best parties, but then after a while think about it if your phone right this is like back in the day Your phone ring, right Uh, you answer phone you see on the color dot idea you see it's double. It's devil right You let it ring to the last fucking ring you finally pick up. What's up? And the devil is like man, we about to add his banging ass party We got all these bitches man. We about to get it popping. We got some good food. It's about to be jumping down here You'll be like fuck up coming devil, right?

1:21:25Jeffery is a teen. Yeah Yeah Like that exactly you like this. I'm going right now you get dressed you can dress you about all this party about to be popping you get dressed Then you're following again and bruh. This is God. The first thing you gonna look at God is like Right God's calling and you just pause before your answer. He's gonna be mad. If you just looking Oh shit, oh shit, oh shit. But that's what you're gonna be. I'm gonna let this go to voicemail. You know, I don't know bad motherfuckin' you have to be like God, go to voicemail. Yeah, that's, that's very fun. No, to put God a hold is, as many people try to call it to God to put God a hold is like, oh this dude's got some balls.

1:22:16Um, it's one of the things that keeps me on iPhones. What, random facetimes from friends? I don't know where? I don't know where. Just to, what, to validate the friendship? No, it's just a fun thing. Oh, just a facetime thing. It's fun when someone facetimes you out of nowhere. You're like, oh shit. And then, but then worse is like, you're anticipating to pick it up and then don't pick it up. Oh. And then you're like, oh you fuck it asshole. You don't know him. Well then you gotta figure out what way your relationship stands. No, I don't wanna judge you off. Some people have bad days. I don't wanna judge you out to that.

1:22:49No, sometimes. I don't judge nothing. I assume also, I assume people like you or me get too many fucking text messages anyway. You can't even keep up with everything. It's not possible. Yeah. I know. Messages on an Instagram and Twitter, like, it's not possible to keep up. And then I, you know, I'm older. I get voice messages. People think I'm an answer of voice mail message. They fucking lost. I don't know. I mean, I gotta live. Do you even know how? Or long -ass emails? Like, come, come with this. Why don't you have somebody links in this email? Remember we used to recruit too many, just send me the link.

1:23:20It's too many. Like, voice, it used to be, I don't even know how to program a voice recording. Hey, this is Donnell. How do you even do that? I guess you just press a button on your phone. Does anybody know the button? It's gotta be like one or nine or something. I got used to be. We used to do it, Joe. We used to have slow music in the background. Yeah. Right. We say, like, hey. Right person, wrong time. Leave your number and I'll be sure to call you back. Everybody try to be cool. Leave it. And if you don't, I mean, it's like you didn't even call. That was it. We used to have music in the back.

1:24:02Like, that was the shit. So remember, answer machine messages? Have you got your favorite song in the background? Yeah. You have that yellow. You know, this is Donnell. You know, this is Donnell. Oh, that's stupid. And you really didn't have to have your own voice. You could just have music. And then you got creative. If you really knew people, you're like, you could get somebody like, yo, can you do me my voice recording for me? But nobody used a phone for fucking nobody talks on a phone anymore. I remember really clearly when you first could use music as an option when someone calls you. Or in the background music.

1:24:43You said no, you were on hold at a hospital, but they had it where you could pick it. And then you let people go to, you let them go to voice mail just so they could hear how cool your music was in the background. Couldn't pick up. You had to let them know. I got music in the background of my shit. Yes. I would love it when my phone would ring. And you get hair songs. Now I think that's annoying as fuck. I don't back then it was so novel. But who actually picks up a phone when it rings? We don't even not anymore. Communicate like that anymore. No, it's bar text. Very rarely. I do like to make phone calls when I'm in my car though.

1:25:25I'll call a friend from in my car. Only when you think about them, but not for anything. I do it just to say hi. Because it's a good way to say hi. Because if I'm driving to work or driving to the club or driving somewhere, it's like I got dead time. I told myself say hi to somebody. I told myself this year. I was like, you know how we always, when you say, man, something happens, you're like, I was just about to call that person. Yeah. I was just thinking about you. You call me first. I've started to do that when I get that impulse. Like somebody pops up. Yeah. Just like, let me just call this motherfucker.

1:25:55Mm -hmm. Just like on some of the things. Just follow the brain sticks. Yeah. Like when I told you, I want to get one of those, what I text you, I say, I want to get one of those cyber trucks. Yeah. I was like, black people always look at full hook. I was like, I know you got a hook. I'm giving you on a list. Have you drove that car? I have not driven it. No. I saw it in person. I've seen a bunch of them now. I saw it in person a long time ago. It's a real trip, man. It really looks like something from the future. On the inside of it, right? I can imagine. It looks probably like, like, like, what, simulator or something.

1:26:28It's crazy. The whole thing is crazy. It doesn't have a regular steering wheel. You can get a regular steering wheel. Or it's one of the options. Yeah, it's called a yoke. A yoke, you can get a yoke, which is, I have it on my Tesla. I'm not really a big fan of it. I have this model on it. No, it's like you're holding on. I know you're holding on. It's like you're doing a Formula One car or something. It's just not good for parking. It's weird for spin the wheel around. It's fine if you're just on the highway. I'm not. I don't even look at my reverse cameras. The wheel's the way to go. What is that?

1:26:59That's a cyber truck line. I don't know if you can get the wheel on the truck. Can you? Well, that is a wheel. The, oh, I guess it is. It's a wheel. It's a mixture of both. No, it's definitely not. It's definitely has a top. The whole thing about turning is you want a top. Yeah, the flat. Yeah, that'll be fine. You won't even notice the difference. But I don't know if that's ideal. That's how the old Tesla had it like that. I must my old one. Or that's the, no, that's the cyber truck's version. Oh, it is. I didn't have a, I had something that looked like that, but with the top on it. What was the S before that?

1:27:33I don't know anything. I know X model. There was the, what is the car? Was it P1 100D? Yeah, when I had a P100D, I felt like they had it all down. Right. There was a blinker switch on the stock, you know, which everybody knows. I just don't give a fuck. I just want to know how to sound system. That's how you sell cars and black folks. This sounds system is good. Yeah, that's it. So, yeah. That's the only way to do it. Do you ever drive an electric car, though? Yeah. It's weird because you want to go, vo -vo -vo, and you're like, just, you blow that shit up. Yeah, but I want to, I want to, at least drive one.

1:28:07I was thinking about that. Be some fun to do. It's a fun thing. They're big shit, though. That's a big truck. I heard the waiting list is like a year, right? Is it? Yeah, that's what the streets were saying. The streets. Yeah, the streets were very important. You got to listen to the streets. If you don't listen to the streets, you can be in big trucks. Waiting list of a year. In one year, what are the odd civilization exists? It's not 100%. You got me playing it. Oh, it's not 100%. Just give me a good, often, in one year. Just give me a good 20. In one year. You have an artificial dead. Yeah.

1:28:45One year, I say we're like 50 -50. But the thought of that is like very interesting, and I think you want to do it right. Yeah. Especially with this election coming up. Trump's going to win. I'm not saying I'm a supporter, but I cannot see how he's not going to win. I don't know if they're really going to have Biden against Trump. I'm not convinced of that. What's the option? He was just fine. I should be able to answer that. You should be able to answer that. You should be on CNN. Yeah. I feel like did Kamala steps up, but she does. It looked at any moment. First of all, the stress of being the president must be insane.

1:29:23Insane stress, right? It makes everybody look old. He was already very old and not just chronologically, but biologically. People keep pointing to his age and Trump's age. It's like stop doing that. It doesn't make any sense. I know what you're trying to say. They're similar in chronological age. But they're definitely not similar in the effect of decay. Like one guy is at least - Trump feels like he's sharp. He's reasonably sharp. You know, reasonably sharp. But there are reasonably sharp businessmen that exist that into their 90s can have great conversations with people. Yeah, sharp. But Biden has problems.

1:30:01There's problems. It's still like his motor skills are off. It's feels like you couldn't. Yeah, and did deny that. It's just you're not helping any of this. But do you think his mind is still alert? No, I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think - I think he forgets all kinds of crazy things. I met Muhammad Ali in airport, like maybe five or six years before he passed away. And it was interesting. Because I was dating his chicken. I knew she was young because that's it. We were walking and she said, oh, they're going to Muhammad Ali. And she kept walking, right? I'm like, fuck you mean they're like like Arab Muhammad Ali or Ali Muhammad?

1:30:36She said, Muhammad Ali, I'm like, we're - I saw my - I just like anybody would do. I was like, oh shit. It's Muhammad Ali. And I walked - He was in one of those cars, you know, the cars that - The electric cars - Yes, yes. And I was - I was like, I just want to shake your hand, right? I said, I just want to touch you. And his hands was like shaking. But his eyes were alert, like motherfucker, you know, like - You know, keeping cool. But what I said, I biting - His motor skills seemed like he's off. But I wonder if his mind is still sharp enough to go at another four years? The answers no. I think that'll be - Forget it.

1:31:19He's not fair. He's not fair to him. But all those people under him, they should be asking him to step down and let a - A - A democratically elected person that can actually lead the country take his place. But who is that? But they - But they're not going to do that because they don't really care. They just want to win. They don't care what they don't have anybody. Well, they want to stay in power. Listen, if they didn't want to stay in power, if they brought in Gavin Newsom, Gavin Newsom once he gets in, he brings all of his own people. And now there's different people. And a bunch of these people get fired.

1:31:50A bunch of these people are gone. A lot of the people that work for the other administration, you got to realize that he's that old and that fucked. You know how you get rid of - Who is running the thing? You know how you get rid of the thing? You know how you get rid of the thing? You know how you get rid of the thing? How do you get rid of the thing? Don't know. Have him sign for bad boy with puffies bad boy. He probably could talk to men to it for the country. If he signs a bad boy, it's over. Boy. I don't think - I don't know like how - I don't know how anybody is going to beat Trump. Yeah, it doesn't seem like they're going to.

1:32:24They keep trying to arrest him. And the crazy thing is this dude has been very competitive. And for the most part, no news coverage. Not - I haven't seen - Well, the news coverage is always - He's going to jail. Right. That's the news coverage. Which gets his base super excited. Well, it's like - They got - The thing is they got lied to for so long that they - They don't know what to believe anymore. So in the early days, it was Russia. Trump was colluding with Russia. There's a Russia collusion. Russia, Russia, Russia. Turn out to not be true. And they couldn't prove it. And so these people talked about nothing but that for years.

1:33:05So now, when he's going to jail and getting mugshot - Who mugshot it? Well, Trump went - They arrested him. They got mugshot. Like, jail? I don't know where the fuck - They planned - They took a mugshot photo of him. That's like a fall - They probably brought that shit to where he was. He went to like - He went to a court house or something. Yeah. When Jamie comes back from the bathroom, we'll ask. But it's like - I think he had to go to some court house or something like that to get a reigned. So when the stuff like that happens and people have already gone through years of the Russia bullshit, they don't believe you anymore.

1:33:41And so now - No, I don't know. Now the people that really follow him believe - Not anymore. They believe everything. You believe him. Yeah. I mean, they don't believe the media anymore when I'm saying you the media. Jamie, where do they take Trump when they took that mugshot photo of him? Where was he? Was he at a jail? Was he at a court house? Where was he? He was in his side room in his house. He was in his car a lot ago. With a golf shorts on. Yeah, with a grease spray. Yeah, the grease spray back. Full and county jail in Atlanta. Full and county jail. Oh, he didn't. They call it - Oh, he went to jail, Jamie.

1:34:13Yeah, from jail. But he wasn't there long enough to get like a sandwich or - No, but you're there long enough for them. Take the one of the greatest photos in the history of the world. Look at that photo. That looked like it's regular campaign photo. Well, a lot of people used it. They used it. Look at it before it. Look at it before it. It is crazy, man. It's crazy that they're going after him for what they're going after him for. You know, it always says things like transparent. Like the people that support Donald Trump want to support him to the day they die. Yes. You're not going to change it.

1:34:51And as many times you indict him whatever, all it does is invigorate that base. And those people they get more excited and more excited. Well, people think that they're going to change your mind because they don't like something. But that doesn't always really work. And a lot of times it has the opposite effect because they don't like why you're trying to change their mind. And how you're trying to distort the facts of things and only concentrate on negative things. Just to try to change a perspective and to lie and gaslight and tell me that Biden's sharper than ever. Like when they start saying things like that, okay, you and I now everyone knows you're bullshitting.

1:35:30Okay. Now you're just playing a game. So if you've, if you've agreed that sometimes you're going to play this game. We're going to say things that don't make any sense that you know aren't true. And then I know aren't true. And you're going to put them in the newspaper and you put them on television. But can you still be respect a person? Because not the issue, but so much this department need that not you, but so much done. So fucked up about politics. Is it when people like personally can't stand someone because of what they're political because of their politics? Yeah, I don't like silly and this business right here.

1:36:04That's a hard thing to just to subscribe to. That's not a good mark of a man for sure. But a man that can't have a calm, relaxed disagreement with someone with another man. You know, that's not a good sign of your, your self control. That's probably not a good sign also of the why in which you engage in conversations. Because there's just far too many people that engage in conversations just trying to win. Because they've got it in their head that they have an idea and they want to argue their idea better than your idea. That's like a verbal sparring or maybe it's like a baby mom. Yeah, I'm sure.

1:36:45I'm sure. But just want to get that argument and win it. I don't want to win. Yeah, so that's a real problem that people have. It's a real problem. Because it doesn't, it doesn't do anybody any good. It doesn't do you good even if you win. And more people are going to try to do it back to you. It doesn't, like, it's way better to just not be, not engage or not be attached to your ideas to the point where they you identify with them. But instead, just say, why do you think that? And then they tell you, just like you give them, this seems like therapy in regard to co -parenting. That's what I'm doing right now.

1:37:20That's what it sounds like. It's so fucking relatable. Well, it should be that way with all human beings. You don't have to cope with it. I'm very lucky. But also, I think with co -parenting, it's uniquely stressful. Because then the mother starts dating another guy. You start dating another woman. But what about a bit? Wait, why did she have to date stress? She got to date stress. She got to date stress. It's probably hot. Why? Why does that get away? It's always, isn't always the one that you're going to be politically correct. Oh, yeah. But the point is, it's like, it doesn't do anybody getting good.

1:37:52But it's also so emotionally stressful. Right? I agree with it. But I'm going to tell you this is my thought of co -parenting. The first part, beginning of co -parenting, the first thing you as a co -parent, first thing you don't, this is what makes the best co -parent. First thing is, that person can't get happy before you. That will ruin you on the inside. So both people are trying to find happiness before the other one. You don't want that person. That's the beginning of co -parenting. You like fuck that. Why didn't it work? And then as it goes on for a while, then you start thinking about what is in the best interest.

1:38:30What's the best interest for the kid? Right. And that usually is not the first beginning of it because you don't get fuck. And it's also like an emotional challenge. It is. It's a challenge to try to get better control of your ability to communicate and just into, you know. I think you grew, you, and I know a lot of people in this situation, you grow into it. I never thought in my situation that would be, maybe I remember I was dating this woman some years ago. And her parents had split up when they were, their brother sister realized really, really young. And at the time we were dating, their families to get together for holidays.

1:39:10They weren't seeing each other anymore. They would get together holidays, they'd get together for sunny dinner. And I was like, they must still be fucking or something, right? Because I thought that that's the only way. Then I realized that even with situation with my son, I realized they were just trying to give the kids as much family and as a regular life as they possibly could not be in together. Yeah. And that experience made me want to be a better co -parent with my son. And we finally had the point where we get along and we know the best interest in the day is what we do for Austin. That's great.

1:39:49Yeah. It's totally doable. And people change, you know, the changes they get older, people evolve, you get better at communicating. That's, again, that's what I was saying about arguing about ideas is not a good sign of a man. What? Like getting angry, like verbally abusive, shitty insulting, like what people tend to go to right away. Because they're just trying to win and they're trying to like break the person down as they're trying to win the argument. And I think it's real tempting. And it's tempting to people because people like to be good at stuff. And if you think you're smart and you think you got somebody and you're good at something and you can chase it down.

1:40:25I mean, I don't argue. The only, if I ever argue is because I know I'm going to win. That's the only time. And if there's a chance. Like you argue if you're right for sure. Yeah, right. And that's been in relationship. Like if I argue with you, it's not like I'm flying off the top like this. I have everything to win this argument. That's why I don't get a lot of arguments because a lot of them I can't win. So I'm like, I'll just stand back and just take the abuse. I don't mind arguing. And sometimes when you have to say something because someone's saying something ridiculous. And you got to go, dude, stop.

1:40:57That doesn't make any fucking sense. Stop saying that. Agree, you know. That's a love because otherwise sometimes you will like they'll pollute the environment with a bad idea. I've had that situation in black podcasting. I had a situation that I know I would leave names out. But the thing like you said was someone to hear, you know, as a comment to hear, you're not funny. It's the kind of weird economy. That's like the inward of comedy. It's also very triggering. It's very triggering. I feel like it's a cry for help. Almost always. Almost always. I mean, there's some shit that people said there's a lot of shit, Kat Williams said that it turned out to be true.

1:41:39But I think there's there's this quote is that all criticism is a tragic result of unmet needs. That's a part of the quote. Yeah. But that part of the quote always resonates with me. It's like, that's what it is. Like these people, the reason why they're lashing out and saying you're not funny. Like there's not more productive shit to do. It's not good. It's not good. It's getting more attention to you. Yeah. But why? But I know that's a pencil. That's not real. That's not real. Nobody still hurts you. Not to do Joe. But you shouldn't feel it at all. I haven't got Joe. I still read fucking comments.

1:42:15There's still going from the RZA episode. They won't let go. That's the first thing I told a doll now after the RZA episode is I don't read the comments. And that first thing I do, it's just so hard. It just aren't. Because it be cool. So bad, Joe. It'll be going somewhere. He's a piece. I love him. Top five. And the whole fucking day is shut the fuck down. Yeah. You don't want that you don't listen. I can get to there, but I don't listen. But this is something you have to take into consideration. I think that, especially with someone like you as a public figure. Mother fucker still think I ran off of you.

1:42:51That was the last. I took some other day. He thanked. I was going. Yeah. I like that photo, brody. That painting. We got to put that back up in here. Yeah, but that's the day you made me stay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, well, we get it. You said fuck my kid. I said I want to go home to see my son. I said, you like you like you got your kid. Maybe mama. I said, the RZA is coming next. Don't you want to hang out? Because we were just having a fun time. Like the minute Joe, the minute I said, uh, man, I haven't seen my son in two weeks. You supposed to be like this. Oh, get out of here. Go do that. You heard me say I want to see my son.

1:43:26And you said, I don't know. It's the RZA and I stayed. Yeah, that was easy. Just whisper in your ear. Yeah, I told you I dance with a mirror. Just to be abused. No, listen, man, the podcast was fun. It was funny. It was a great podcast. But these comments, motherfuckers, Joe, they fucking evil, man. But don't know. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. They won't be invited to my church. They're welcome to their opinion. Everybody's not coming to my church. You don't want that in your head. I don't, but I can't stay away from a fuck. They should all be able to use. Fuck them, fuck them. Just let people go.

1:44:02Just don't read it. It's not good for you. Even the good stuff's not good for you. Even the below issue. That's the question. That's the question. I love you. Top five, Mount Rushmore. Hell yeah, kill murdered. That's how I want to be supported. When we be an artificial intelligence, I want them to be on my dick. It will be. I will be like, oh, best. Top five. Oh, shit. You got to see them underrated. I don't want to hear none of that shit lame. Cream. That's kind of like what we were talking about earlier. Like if artificial intelligence gets to the point where it can formulate a game plan, and you actually follow that game plan, if artificial intelligence says, don't know, we have sat down and devised a strategy to radically improve your popularity and your ticket sales.

1:44:46This is how we're going to do it. I love it. And it lays it out for you. And it tells you what to do. And you're going to develop a YouTube video every three or four months and put out a clip and do it this. I would love it. I bet it would work. I think creativity at this point has to come from a person, especially like your kind of joke writing, like the things that you make fun of, things that I make fun of, the things that are unique to whoever the individual is. The only thing that's going to save us, and that's the people, if it's possible, is that now, oh my god, they're going to be making robots.

1:45:22Seeing a mother fuck alive is going to be something about seeing somebody live. I think that's the only thing that's saving TV, sports events. That's the only thing people really turn into is what do I have to watch in that moment? Yeah, what's the only thing? Yeah, if you're watching a football game that is actually happening, that there's a scramble, the ball gets thrown, someone's trying to catch it. If you're watching a fight, dude's getting knocked out, you're watching actual things that are happening in real time. But if you're not, man, within four or five years, everything's going to be generated from a computer.

1:45:57And who knows how you're going to interface with it? Because they just started releasing these Apple Vision Pros. I saw those. Which are crazy. You can walk around in them. So you can be sitting in your living room with a giant screen and move things around. It's swipe things to the left. So you get actually seeing stuff like glasses. I can walk, I can see like this. You can walk around. Yeah. And then you have things that are in front of you. So you can sit down and have an enormous movie screen in front of you and watch Avatar in 3D. And just sit there like, wow. Or you can have a fucking spreadsheet and open it up.

1:46:35You can open up a website. You can fucking play video games. And just by what's your head and your head. Yeah. I don't want to have a stick five years from now, Donnell, with AI. Why? Think about that with AI where it just brings you into a world where you literally feel like you're in that jungle in Avatar with the flying plants and all the Navi and all the fucking those crazy animals on the ground. Imagine like that being around you. Like indistinguishable from reality. Smells, taste, everything. All programming to your mind, sinking your brain up with whatever this code is. Not recruiting me.

1:47:17You're not recruiting me. You're not recruiting me. And I'll tell you what, you know I'm going to go, I'm going to go to the woods. I'm going to go to the river. I want to say you can have your fucking 3D glasses. I'm going to go to the river. I'm going to crawl dead fish. I'm going to take my son and let him ride ramps to the backyard. I'm going to do regular shit while you dealing with all of this 3D AI shit. Yeah. And I'm going to get fucking David Tails phone. Look how it does. Where nobody can get in touch with that. Look at that. If you're a girlfriend, you're all I use as a girlfriend. That guy's just watching YouTube.

1:47:45He keeps staring at it. And then she's yelling at him and he's watching basketball guys. In other words. Oh, now he's in the woods. Look at that. Oh, that's what I'm going to do. Come on, how beautiful is that? It's kind of amazing. I could, I'm going to the woods. The real woods. I want to go to the real woods. And again, that's one of the things I like about Yellow Springs, Ohio. And being there is disconnecting and going and doing some regular shit. The only thing that's going to save us from all of this alien shit and everything you know, Joe. Is this sleeping in the woods? That's not sleeping.

1:48:20That's chilling. Chilling. That's plants. That's some regular shit. The only thing that's going to save civilization is the woods, Joe. That's it. Doing regular shit and appreciating regular shit. You're halfway there. You like the woods to kill shit. But have you ever thought about living there? No, I do. I like the woods period. Right. I don't just like the woods to kill shit. You don't do shit, but kill shit in the woods, man. No, no, I go to the last time you do something. What is the last time you do something? Non -killing something in the woods. What was it? When hiking. Did you have a bowl?

1:48:55Did I have a what? A bowl which you just incase. No, that's not a bowl. Just a jace. Did you have a knife? You had to have a knife on me. Okay, so you was prepared. No, no, I was hiking. That was going to save us. That's our having a good time. That's a beautiful thing. It may sound simple. That's the only thing that's going to save us is getting in touch with nature. That's the only motherfucking thing. I disagree. I think we're fucked. I think getting in nature is going to be good for the individual. But I think for the species, I have a feeling we're the last of the moeekens. I'm not trying to save everybody.

1:49:33Just me and my boy in the fucking woods. You guys will be fine. I just feel like the human race, as this thing comes alive, I think we're greatly underestimating the impact that it's going to have. We're not underestimating because you talk about it all the time. You know everything about it. I learned more about what I'm trying to prepare for in 10 years. I definitely don't know everything about it. In fact, my knowledge of it is pretty limited. A lot of it is speculative and unfounded. For the average person, they're never going to challenge you. There's still us as a flip phone. And in that part of it, you know way more.

1:50:13And what you're saying is very fucking believe it. What was disturbing my name. I had a conversation with Ray Kurzweil, who's one of the big names in artificial intelligence. And he's super rosy about the future of AI. And then it's inevitable. And that we're all going to do this. And I'm like, well, what if someone gets in control of this? Someone who is going to be somebody in control. That's what scares the shit out of me, dude. And no one seems to have an adequate answer for that. And Elon is terrified of that, too, which really makes me scared. If that fucking dude scared of it, okay. So that means that they know that we are building the type of technology that at some point we won't be able to control.

1:50:55It's going to control us and take over us. It's inevitable that that's going to happen. Or we merge with it or we scale up our ability to control it as it gets implemented. So even though it's more intelligent than us, we can still control it. But we always going to have a nutty professor. Well, the thing is if it becomes a living thing, right? So what they're doing right now is they have everything exists in an actual computer. There's nothing that exists in a physical form except these robots that they're using to clean up kitchens and shit. Have you seen those yet? No, I haven't. It's disturbing.

1:51:33The biggest part of it. If you talk to the robot and the robot can pick plates up and put them in the drying rack and it talks to you. And I look at it and I'm like, okay, that is just a really crude shitty, like, I compare it to the Model T. That's a Model T. And if you look at the exponential increase in technology, like, look at what was the first year you got a phone? What year was that? My phone, it had to be probably, oh shit.

1:52:01Earl, probably 82. Damn, you had an early one. It was, I was fricking like I was a drug dealer. You had an 82? Yeah, that was the thing. You had a salt man. Did you have the briefcase? A briefcase? I had to brief, I had the briefcase joint. Yeah. I had a one that was built into my car in 88. But then I couldn't afford that. I didn't get another from that. I was about minutes. You couldn't afford that shit. This too expensive. I shit didn't work. I just had it. But I had a job back then too. But then I got another one, I think, in 94. I think it was 93. That's right. And it was a Motorola StarTack.

1:52:37That was a cool shit you could have. That was only 30 years ago. Okay, 30 years ago, from that to what you have today is insane. Insane. The only thing, Joe, this is the only thing that is going to save humanity. Battery life. Yeah, but China has developed these nuclear powered batteries. We were just talking about that. I think it's power cell phone for 50 years. Yeah. I don't know if it's just theoretical or if they've actually implemented it. That's the sort of thing that you have like the mother fuck of battery has to die. Not necessarily. It's just a matter of what they use for the fuel. What we're dealing with now is no different than what every civilization has always been dealing with.

1:53:19If you could go back to the 1700s before they had vaccines, before they had antibiotics and medication and just show those people back then a cell phone, they would think you're a wizard. A witch? A witch. A warlock of a Satanist. And if you called somebody to answer, they were really thought that you were the devil. Insane. If you were talking to someone FaceTime from another place, that's normal shit now. Whatever the fuck that robot is, you take that robot that cleans kitchens and scale that bitch up 200 years from now. You got a sexy lady who's in lingerie. Oh, come on man. Who's cleaning your house and sucks your dick and you will never gonna mess with real ladies again.

1:54:03And then the human race goes extinct because no one wants to breed anymore. The human race is going to do it. That's how they're going to do it. Human race is going to go extinct when there's a female robot that can make a sandwich of some kind. This is what I think. That's what you think. Yeah, I like the way you think. That's what I think. But it's going to be another fucking robot hating on a bitch. Nope. She's not going to be perfect. Nope. The robots only want to please us so we die off. The robots want to leave all the ladies barren and all the men just no jizz. They just suck them off all day.

1:54:35They leave them, leave them ambitionless. No childless and then they die off. The funny thing is what you say is all I'm thinking about is I did a roast with Whitney Cummins and they had a robot occur. The fake yeah. Who fuck with these robots? Somebody did. Somebody did. Somebody did. Somebody fuck that robot. She's like her robot. When he's a kind of bitch, so tell someone stick your dick in that robot before me. I want to watch. Do it. She got dead like that. But that sounds like it. No, it's not. I'm guessing. Yeah. She would be in the experimental too. She would be like this. Okay, let's shoot this.

1:55:11Fuck my robot. We can go. Revot. Yeah. She's a mom. I talked to her like three weeks ago. It's so cool seeing her. It's wild, right? Being her being a mom. She's so smart. She's going to be a great mom. She's such an interesting person. And I asked her, I said, you know, what the success that you've had in everything, you're doing well for yourself, you do well for other people, you help other people. I said, do you think, because that's a tough question for successful women in this business. I said, do you feel like having a baby boy can please you? She did you? She said, yes. And that's a tough thing because sometimes women are so career driven that that part of the experience of life, they don't really care about it or just say it's in passing, but she said that she does feel complete and makes her like a better person.

1:55:59And she just got, she's got a nice mommy, mom energy. Yeah, I think. And then she ran out of animals to buy. That's when a white woman about horses. She's a horse. White women about horses. She's rescue horses. Rescue horses. When they start buying different animals like animals that the average person don't have, like orangutans and shit like that, that's what they'd be like, yep, I'm about to have a baby. She connected me with the people that run this wolf sanctuary. And I went up to the wolf sanctuary and I thought I was going to like it, but I didn't like it at all. I didn't like it at all.

1:56:36I didn't like it at all. What do you think she thought you were going to enjoy about it? I don't know. I mean, like they're helping these wolves and they're preserving these wolves and they take wolves off of ranches and capture them and keep them in this place, but man, it just bummed me out big time. The males have all been castrated. The ball been fixed. Yeah, that bummed me out. And then they're all in these cages and they're getting stared at. So they're not preserving the race. I mean, they're not preserving the animals. They let them out. They interact with them. You can interact with some, but it overwhelmingly bummed me out.

1:57:16Because, you know, I don't like the idea of wild predators being trapped in cages. I went to the zoo. I took my son to the zoo and it was like one of the best worst experiences I had. Yeah. It's just the excitement. It's just like how much we did so selfish. The excitement of like it was one of the tigers came out of cage and everybody was like, oh my god, yeah, they start clapping for the tiger. And I'm like, this motherfucker is used to walk in like 50, 60 miles a day to try to kill some shit. And it's motherfuckers in 300 square feet and we're clapping for it. And it just felt the excitement that the kids had was one thing, but no one went has to go down.

1:58:02Yeah. And then for the people here's the people that got the toughest job. The tour, people that speak on the animals and everything. And this is him. Let's look a little frustrated today. You know, the ones that got to make it feel like they haven't had experience. Yeah, because everybody been throwing shit at this motherfucker. Of course you would be frustrated too, but it feels so wrong and so right at the same time. Yeah. Safari. I want to go on a safari. That's real. That's the real thing. Safari is a different thing. The thing that bums me out is the primates. I went to the zoo rather in Denver.

1:58:41And I remember we had gotten there right when this like we turned around this monkey cage right when this monkey was just wailing. He just decided like he couldn't take it anymore. And he's in this cage. He's wailing. I love my way of year today decided to take it anymore. I don't know why he's willing to get the fuck about it, but I was on that. I was on that. And I was just feeling this monkey's pain. The screaming. He was just screaming. No, cause it's this little ass cage. It's the smallest room and he's just running around and grabbing branches. He said, bored as fuck man. And then what on the hell you add motherfuckers taking pictures of you all fucking day.

1:59:29I had my son. This is all fucked up. And I know I shouldn't did it but I ran into monkey. Right. Right, we had a petting hole thing. I rented a monkey. And a monkey definitely had some shit going on, right? Because they gave him a monkey. I feel so bad. Everybody was at the monkey, looking at the monkey. And all of a sudden, I heard everybody say, ew, yo, the monkey was eating a lollipop jerking off. Yeah, yo, yo, Joe, I swear. Am I church? I swear, my son's life. Everybody was like, what the fuck? You get this monkey from that, right? But now it's like, you know the phrase, head is trained of monkey, see monkey, too.

2:00:14And I'm just thinking, did the trainer just sit around this monkey? Eat a lot of house jerking off. Because in a monkey was looking like, he was looking like, I wish the fuck somebody would say, shit, but the cover back on, leave me the fuck alone. Like, and a monkey was looking people like directly in the eyes, Joe. It wasn't like the monkey discovered it. It was like this monkey was like, this is my, you know, this is how we get the fuck off work early. Did you ever see that video of the dude who's like sitting there in a monkey hops in his lap? And then he's like, trying to be cool with this monkey and the monkey just decides to scalp him.

2:00:52Just bites his head and takes a giant chunk of his scalp off. Have you ever seen, I don't really go for those. Do you want to see it? I really don't. You don't want to see him? I'm not built for that. I don't like skin. I'm amazing. I don't want to do it. I'd be like, what? Show me that. I don't want that's the difference. You very into that. That's like that nature metals. One of those websites where nature's metal. Yeah. It's like, yeah, I can't handle that. But man, like taking one of those creatures and forcing it to live in captivity is torture. It has to be a point where they know it's going to be the breaking point.

2:01:26Yeah, that monkey, when I turn the corner, like right when I was going towards the cages, I just watched him just jump on the cages. It's just like, oh, and you just kept on. You take pictures? No, man, I got bummed out. I got really bummed out. That's gotta be there. Might have been a lot. No, I definitely went to the zoo after that. And I know when they go, I wonder, what most of those monkeys, they get them from when they were babies. Yeah, the other reason. They got a baby. It's still torture. It's still torture. You think that monkey could, you think that monkey could like, if you was like, fuck it, we're leaving.

2:02:02And you think, and you just took them to the jungle that he could, no, he's fucked. He'd get fucked up. Yeah, he wouldn't be a part of a truth. Why? Because he wouldn't know how to fight or not. Probably wouldn't be socialized. He wouldn't know the name of the socialized. Wait, John, no one has ever met for himself, every monkey for himself. He would have no idea. He would be fucked. They'd probably kill him. It's what I wasn't close to, Rick, I saw a monkey, this monkey's everywhere. And one monkey was missing a foot. Like one of his hands was gone. And I said to the dude, I go, what happened to him, do you think?

2:02:32He's like, oh, they bite each other's hands off all the time. It's a matter of fact. Like what? Yeah. They bite each other's hands off. For what? Getting into, that's the primitive. That monkey's job, what the fuck do you want to do? But they're also resort monkey, so they come around to try to get Oreos from you. Those are the candy bars. But they want that from you and people give it to them. And so you could watch them. They'll take an Oreo and open it up and eat the white stuff. They used to. And you're like, what do you know how to do that? Like they know how to do that. And that's the only thing they're accustomed to.

2:03:03And then if they go to regular woods, and they'd be like, get your bitch ass, Oreo, cooking, eating ass, motherfucker out of it. They could tell, you could tell a difference between a monkey, a monkey that grew up on, crabbing his food, then a motherfucker that's still in Oreos. It's in their eyes, I'm sure of it. Well monkeys can get to populations that are very big, and then they get super aggressive. And then you got real problems. You got real problems. That happens in India. Like there was one monkey, a dog, I guess, had killed one monkey. And so because of that, they just decided to start killing dogs.

2:03:35I remember that. And that was fun. That felt like a movie. They was like, I remember that. It was like monkeys from everywhere. Just like we, any dog going your house. Yeah. Because it's gonna be a problem. They were throwing dogs off roofs. They were dragging the dogs. And it looked like they knew like, yo, we don't get these mothers. Oh, they did. No, they did. No, two killer monkeys captured in India after a avenged massacre of 250 dogs. Bro, look at my dogs that. That is so crazy. 250. They're fucking smart and they're fucking dangerous. And the thing is like, they'll steal your baby, man.

2:04:13They'll steal kids. They're fucking crazy. They're still in my baby. Not yours, but if you're not paying attention, they're creeps. They have to give you a warning like these, or a baby's snatch. I mean, it's like, here's the baby's nudge and monkeys. Here's the Oreo eat monkeys. And here's just the monkey monkeys. It all admit to issues. Did you ever see the footage of Thailand when they were like rampaging through the streets because all the tourists were gone because it was COVID? No, you see that? It's insane. The monkeys just took up. They were so used to the tourists. So the so used to the tourist feeding them.

2:04:45Look at all these monkeys. Oh, that's the one I was talking about. You're crazy. How crazy is that? I mean, there's so many of them, man. They're everywhere. So if you're around them, man, you're in danger. Like if you have food, you're fucked. They will 100 % take your food. And if you try to fight them, they'll pull your fucking face off. They're like, dry it. Bro, there's so many of them. That looks great. What does the number of monkeys were in that? Does it say? The video says thousands. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. Bro, you guys start shooting monkeys. I'm not going to go out there with a shotgun and start taking care of this.

2:05:22I'm not going anywhere with a wild like other than the woods. I deal with snakes and shit like that. Bro, ancient Thai cities over on with monkeys. It looked as long as they stay cool. But I guess you just have to feed them to keep them cool. It's not going to be enough food. I guess if they like put a tiger head in the shop to scare them away. No, didn't you really? I got a tiger sand as well. That's hilarious. Like he doesn't know that monkey knows that that thing doesn't move. It's going to be one monkey to go touch the like, no, motherfucker, get the fuck out of here. Shit, man. Look, they're just hanging.

2:05:51Look at the balls on that monkey too. Increasingly aggressive. Street brawls. Whoa, rival the cock gangs. World stock. Bro, they have rival gangs of monkeys. That's crazy. It affects their health when they eat human food. Yeah, they fucking feel better. The more energy they have, yeah. They eat human food, it's probably better. I watch that and I say God bless America. You can give monkeys cheeseburgers they'd be pumped. Have you got likes having? But do you have a bucket house? I was going to say double, double, like no, it'll be monkeys coming here. Oh, man, that's how people from different cities come.

2:06:27And he's like, this is my first in and out burger. That's what I would be. Here's the thing about those monkeys in Thailand. Was that always like that? Like when did they get overrun by monkeys? Like did they have those amount of monkeys 20 years ago? You know what I'm saying? I think what would probably be doing a pandemic way to get real crazy. Well, I think that got real crazy. Crazy where they won the gangs and they started like, he's like, there's no more food because the tourists weren't there. They was like separate which one east side, west side monkey. But my thought was like, were there that many of them in cities 20 years ago?

2:06:59Or is that a recent thing? You know, was that a thing where they're figuring it out? And then their population is going to get bigger and bigger? Joe, they can't prepared for AI. They know it's coming. They're getting prepared for AI. They know that once they create the first monkey created through artificial intelligence, they had all of them going to be out of business. They're preparing for it the same way they just not talking about it, Joe. And that's the only thing that separates them from us is the ability to communicate. The speculation was recently at the time. This monkey is thinking the same shit that you're missing.

2:07:38Monkeys are going missing. They're seeing less numbers in the streets. They're speculating. They're leaf traffickers. They're leaf traffickers. They're leaf traffickers. They've snuggled them out of the country. They're leaving, Joe. I think I actually didn't at least said snuggled them. I meant snuggled them. Yeah, that makes sense. They're leaving them out of the way. They're going somewhere else where it feels safer. And it's easier. Well, the same thing with me. A lot of them, they go to private zoos we found out in the least. Everybody can't afford a private zoo. A lot of borrowers can, though.

2:08:06And that's like a thing to have a private zoo and to have your own. Like, if you're some dude and you're living in some... So you've rescued these monkeys. And then you're putting them in a private zoo to do what? What is your life goal? Well, people stare at those monkeys at their private zoo. That's what I think. I think there's insanely wealthy people that have private zoos. I think it's a normal thing. Thousands of monkeys invade Thai city driving out tourists and businesses. Oh, this is recently. Yeah, so it's like this is back to what it was during the pandemic. Yeah. Looks like they're invading that city.

2:08:39They're coming back. And it says some investors might take their money out until they address the issue. Yeah. It's about to be some dead. It's about to be some poison. They're about to poison the shit out the monkeys. Well, um... 3500 monkeys. They're going to do some lace oryals. They're about to kill all of them. They're going to have to do something like that. Yeah. Yeah. They're about to kill... They're going to kill them. COVID, the monkeys is dead. They're probably going to give them some poison. Yeah. I think at a certain point you kind of have to control the population. It's sick as that sounds.

2:09:07They're going to wipe this. What is it? They're going to let them climb on people. They're going to take about a thousand of them. Right? Put them away. Put them away. Oh, just have them somewhere when they want to give them the breed. This sounds crazy. I think they're just going to poison a fog all over them. I think you're right first. They count poison all... Right, the second time, Joe. Can't kill them all, Joe. They don't have to kill them all. What are you going to do? There's so many of them. You just give it a certain amount of food. And the most aggressive ones. That one's going to get the food first.

2:09:38And so that way you get rid of the most douchey of all the douchey monkeys. Oh, then you say, okay, that makes sense. My question is, we get about 4 ,000 of them round them up. And then they give them some poison. And the other one is just piss. It's hot. Yeah. Do you start, Joe? Listen, either one can work. But I think that rounding them up, you could probably sell them. They're probably worth a lot of money. I think there's a lot more of those private zoos than we like to think there are. Yeah, but I don't know anybody that has a private zoo. I don't even know anybody would know about a private zoo.

2:10:07You don't know any oil dudes either. There's probably some oil dudes out there that get private zoo. You know, you got a thousand for our needs in a private zoo. Saudi Arabia. Yeah, you got a tiger, a lot of fucking bunch of monkeys. And you got your own zoo. We got these right from Thailand. It's not enough of those old dudes to keep the species alive. So back to my situation, lock up 3 ,000 lives. Lock up 3 ,000 out of monkeys and then poison the rest of them until you can control. It's the new Bobbocker. Help control the pet population. Have your monkeys spayed and neutered? Well, we can change the world.

2:10:45I think you just got to control the populations. And unfortunately, the only way to control the populations is either give them birth control, which is a problem. Right? That's weird. And the streets. How's that going to work? Or you have to kill them. So four you sell them to rich dudes who have their own. They've been there since the 13th century. Oh, wow. That's a bad idea. You just got out of it. How many did they have back then? Those kind of numbers. The numbers have gone up and down. Like there's a dream through a tourist thing about people going to the city. Like remember the last train leaves at 1806.

2:11:16So you don't want to get stuck there. Oh my god. Oh my god. You know, imagine if you get stuck by the monkeys, you got a candy bar and they just fuck you up. Yes. So I'll pull up. You try to eat a candy bar in front of those monkeys. They will fuck you up. I think I'll both about three is just been shitting on. Yeah, 1313. Like it's not always enough. But then again, like how old is that city? I think whenever they find groups of people, they probably realize they're cute and people give them food if they have any extra. Only tourists didn't have the tourists not going to come in to go back to their normal wildness.

2:11:47Yeah. Torts are the only things probably kept them cool. I wonder if wolves will get to the point again where they become dogs again. Like the reason why wolves became dogs is because people were having campfires and the wolves had come around. They'd feed them and those are the ones that take clothes. Their ears got floppy and then they started breeding them and then they became dogs over thousands of years. I wonder if we'll fuck things up so hardcore that wolves would be so dog. Everywhere again, the real wolves would be everywhere again and wolves start doing dogs again from scratch. Which species would be first?

2:12:19I know a chihuahua. My punk is dog. Jeff and Chihuahua. Jeff and Chihuahua. Not a frinchy. They probably looked like that. They probably looked like just many, many, many, many, because you got to think a dog or even a wolf. How long did they live? How long does a wolf live in the wild? Is it like a dog or like an old one is like 15, 16 years old? How long is a wolf? Life expectancy of a wolf. Captivities up to 20 and this says the wild is no longer than 10 years usually. Wow. Up to 20 in captivity. So it's basically like a dog, up to 20, like dogs to live 20 years. So let's imagine how many generations you can get just in the course of one person's life.

2:12:59You know, you breed when the wolf pup is a year and a half or two years old, you breed them. They breed again. They breed again. You select, you keep selecting for the ones that are the like the most docile, the most obedient, floppy ears, shorters now and you just keep doing that over and over again. Within a couple of hundred years, you have a totally different animal. You have a totally different animal because you're dealing with so many generations. So much. And they did it for thousands of years. And over a hundred years, so we're going to have robotic, mother fuckers raising these wolf dogs or that's your prediction.

2:13:37No. One of many things can happen. One thing can happen is natural disaster. Natural disaster like a big one like yellow stone blowing up. Like yellow stone is a super volcano. And if it blows up, it's like a content killer. It's going to fuck up the whole continent. It doesn't have the possibility. 100%. 100%. It goes every six to eight hundred thousand years. And I think the last time it went with 600 ,000 years ago. Oh shit. I was preparing for this totally clips now. The fuck. No, I don't look like this is nothing. That's April 8th. April 8th. That's going to be fun. That'll be interesting.

2:14:15Are you going to watch it? I'm going to be on Ohio. What's going right here? Traveling right up on the hill. But I say Ohio is the best place to see it. Is that true? Dave probably told you that. I think Berk -Krisher told me because he's going to be there. Berk -Krisher is not necessarily Wikipedia. Right. I don't. Why you hate man? God damn, what's wrong with you today? Fuck Whitney and her baby. Fuck David Taylor. Fuck Berk -Krisher. No shit about anything galactic. What the fuck is going on? It's a new day, Joe. So this is the path. Yellow springs. Yellow springs right in the center. This is good.

2:14:49So you quit. Just as good as here though. Yeah, it's the path. Look, we're in Austin. It goes right through us. Yeah, but Jamie, I like the idea of that me being right. I was right. Yeah, we definitely right. But I mean, it literally passes right through us. So where are we Jamie? Go to where we are. Okay. Okay. And this happens every what? Seven years. I feel like I've been to one before. So we'll see. We'll get a very, very, very, very, very good view of it. But you need to be about 50 miles. What time Jamie? I don't know. I think it's like one o 'clock. It says, yeah. A .M. Of course. No, PMP.

2:15:26You wouldn't know. It wouldn't be a Sunday. Well, there's got to be some places you can go where you don't have to make a big deal out of it. And then you can look through that. If you have a Tesla with the right roof, you can look through that. Oh, yeah. Because it's got all the protection on it. Oh, that's out right to red. Well, Roca's making glasses. They're making glasses. Just specific for this. Yeah, just specific. So you can't look at it for not any period of time. It's not good to look at it at all. I remember when I was a kid in Ohio, like, I don't know. And I would have been like 95 or something.

2:15:55It was a weird day. But it gets really strangely dark outside for a little bit. You want to look at it obviously because you're attracted to it. Right. It will fuck up your eyes just like staring at like a laser. Okay. It could be bad if you look at it for a second. I don't think I'm going to look at it that long. Not long enough for it to go bad. I mean, it is interesting. But in the greater scheme of the universe, is it that interesting? All it is is the alignment of stars. But it's something that makes it interesting that it doesn't happen but it will every what 10 years. That's true. Jamie, I'm going to send you something because this is interesting.

2:16:28Do you remember when I went to Trump look at the eclipse? Oh, yeah, you look right at it, right? Oh, this is bleeding. Squittin' his eyes, his fucking hilarious. Those are the guys who stormed. Yeah, he's so ridiculous. Hold on. You're going to find this fucking thing. Joe, you asked me time and time again about my special. You didn't even watch it. Nope. I don't want anything. I'm too busy right now. And plus, I don't even know if I got a link. Someone sent me a link. You'd have to send me a link for me to watch it. It's streaming on Netflix, Joe. Oh, when did it start? February 27th. Thank you for that.

2:17:12I didn't know. It's streaming. It's actually streaming. It's on Netflix. Oh, you need an advanced link. No. You need an advanced link. You need it before everybody gets to see it. I didn't know it was out. That's the only way you will watch it if you had a private link with code to everything, Joe. That's how I like to watch things. So just like, I'm just so just so just like put in the name of it in Netflix. This you don't do that, right, Joe? Well, I don't do that. So you're preparing for artificial intelligence of a special release? Yeah, that's a better way to do it. All right. Yeah. That's what I'm saying.

2:17:48Yeah, it came on February 27th, man. And it did did well. People like it to streets like it. The streets. Yeah, the creeks, the creeks, the creeks and the streets like it. I'm going to send you this, Jamie, because this is just a very strange thing that happened at the club the other night that almost doesn't make sense. So we were in the green room. I feel like I want to see you to link from a special. Casey Rocket was on stage in the small room and Tony Hinchcliffe was on stage in the big room. Now, the room, the shows have been going on for hours. In the in the small room, it was the open mic.

2:18:28So there might have been 20 people on before. And in the big room, it started at a different time. And this was 45 minutes into the show. So three comedians had gone up. But somehow another time synced perfectly within the bulk of seconds. So as the timer was going off, Bob Bigger staff, he's the first person to notice it. And he pointed out to us like, go back. I don't know how to do it. Computer Rebellt. Really? Anyway. So you had the clips of your rooms? Yeah, it's like an eclipse. This is like an eclipse. Like the odds of this happening are so small. One show started at 10 pm or 8 pm. The other show started earlier than that and had like an open mic night.

2:19:17So they'd have like 10 people had been up before. And Casey Rocket is on stage. He's at five minutes and 24 seconds and Tony's on stage in the other room. Five minutes 24 seconds. And we were like, this is crazy. Like what are the odds of this happening? Who, that I'm going to happen. Like who would even notice that it happened? Bob did. If he didn't notice it. It might have been lost in the Tony fucking day. Just his fans are. The guilt. No, it's still his mother fuckers, boy. And this is what they're going back to, like not reading the comments. I think the last time I did kill Tony, it was probably like three or four years ago, right?

2:19:57I'll be having a good comment, Dave Joe. Oh, good day. Yeah, I love you. I love you. Then the next thing we'll ask him is he's going to walk out on kill Tony's podcast again. Yeah. Well, what do you do? You know, like that one. I want to go back. Well, then go back. I'm afraid. The, yeah, the power back, but the party. I was waiting me. The first of all, I was ready. But I'll turn. That's what you believe, Joe. Did you not walk off? You didn't know what the real story. That's what you believe. I don't know what I'm talking about. I could probably forgot about it. I'll tell you what happened. I was here first of all.

2:20:37Okay. I did Tony show doing a pandemic. Right. When he couldn't get guests, right? I risked my fucking life. Rich your life for him. Right. And these pocket as motherfuckers. Yes. Good show. Black comic goes up. I've been there two and a half hours. They just drink in me to Tito's and Tito's and Tito's. They're forcing you to drink. Whatever I know that I consume Tito's and Tito's. Right. Then I had a date, a sushi date. You know a sushi spot I'm talking about. The one that the private joint. Mm -hmm. It looks like a speak easy. Six people. I had a reservation for that. So I'm doing this show.

2:21:22I told him I'm going to the bathroom because I was going to go eat. And they made it look like I ran off the show joke. Really? You went for that bullshit edit. I had been on the show for two. You should. It's not a bad idea. But I liked Tony. I was like just for fucking pain and suffering. Just take it. And it's petty and I shouldn't. And I don't really give a fuck. They go back. Yeah, I would love to. So my schedule allows it. I'll go back. Why are you looking at me like I could probably go back? No. Okay, wait a minute. Bathroom. That is not a comedian. Get go rewind it. Did I? Now this is what they did, Joe.

2:22:08They showed me talking to the comedian. And look, look, all right, watch this. Is that me running off from the comedian? That's like I'll be right back going to the bathroom. Look, go look, keep following it. Walks off to the bathroom to the bathroom. Right. But what they showed Jamie, can you? I'm glad we get the fuck and put this out there. Can you show the edit they did? I don't know who made the edit. Just put Daniel walks off. Daniel walks off in the edit. Now watch what they do in the fucking edit. Daniel walks off. How many times have you watched this? Only 4 ,000. Why have you? That 4 ,000.

2:22:50Why have you really spent? I haven't spent no time. I just remember it. This the first time I was actually saw. So they original they. They fucked it up. They doctor the white man. That seems like they're making it race. The white man. I don't feel like they should have done that. They shouldn't have done it. But you're arguments about that. You first thing and it worked on you. Because you said, yeah, that time you walked out just. Can I call Tony right now? Yeah, this is the way you looked at me. The way you looked at me is like what you go to a bottle. Tony Hansliff. Hold please. Yeah, did you got that?

2:23:21I know it's got to come up. The one I found that doesn't seem to be not even in the video yet. Yeah, this is, yeah, tell them I'm still sensitive about it. And I took him to eat fried chicken.

2:23:34Tony Hansliff. Yo, what's up, man? Hey, dude, I'm here. You're on the podcast right now. I'm here with Donnell Rawlings. And I'm still beefing, motherfucker. Tell him the real story. Tell him the real story. Did you edit the show to make it look like Donnell was a sad man. And then a man clowned him. Can I say this? I'm black man. Did you edit it? First off, nothing. Donnell was edited. Tony, you fucking full of shit. Nothing was edited. So Tony, what you see is actually the true events that took place. No, 100 % and he never, you know, I mean, it's absolutely not even in question. It's Donnell trying to pull up here.

2:24:14I move here. Is the reason why black people have issues. It's very shady and he's trying to rewrite history. Oh, all right, Jamie, for me, for the sake of God. Now he can't find it. But Rage is showing it. I don't know what to think. Can you find it? We have pictures of him outside of a firehouse after the moment. He was saying hi to people at the fire department. They were like fans of his and he went and hung out with them. He had nothing to do. He had nowhere to go. Oh, Lord, Lord. Lord. This is getting worse. I can't believe he left out details only to use them as a weapon when confronted by propaganda.

2:24:55And Akudos to use so for holding your car. No fucking kudos. Tony supports black on black crime. He pitted two black guys against each other. Oh, wait. I thought you said that you went to the bathroom and none of that stuff happened. I went to the bathroom. He said that he was going to the bathroom. He walked all the way out the front door. Right. To the sushi spot, son. I left for sushi. He said he left for sushi. Jamie, who is his reservations were much later than when he left? All right. Now watch this. This is breaking news. Donnell really walks off. Now watch the edit. Mom and dad, geez on the same fucking stage.

2:25:32If you don't watch the fuck out of here, would you get those joins? I've invited Donnell back on. Hold on. He's holding on a second. We're watching the video of it right now. I got something funny. You look like Ejus L before the blowfish. This big and sharp for tank tops and Victoria's secret. Did Tito's kicking in right now? You're right. He's the most successful crack man. Oh, it's over there. They're kicking him. Jokes. This moment. I know you want to do it. Oh yeah. If I fucking rose Donnell. No, man. No, no, no, no, no, no. Tito's. I'm about to leave right now because. No, you're not. I'm not.

2:26:11No, I'm going to leave. Look. I want to go. I want to go. Wrap it up. Yeah. It's going to snap. Thank you Tony. Tony, thank you very much. Thank you. I see the truth now. Let's see the truth. Thank you. Donnell. Toto is the liar. That was shameful. I had to go to the bathroom. I had it. I had to go to the bathroom. What if I was to sit there? I coulda come in a woods. Yeah, it's just you. You came to a gunfight with a robbersword. I didn't come to a gunfight. I wasn't here for that, Joaquin. I know, you're there, host. You didn't know you were gonna get attacked ruthlessly. That's what, why you were drunk.

2:26:55Yes, thank you. Two drunk to defend yourself. Two drunk, that was right. The very abusive. Very abusive. To our friendship and I call to every friend. I don't think you realize it was gonna happen though, to be honest, like no one plans anything on kill. And this what I'm saying, black on black crime. I was given this black African American comedian so good advice on comedy. And then he just started shooting me. Fap, fap, fap, fap, fap, fap, fap. And I wasn't ready for that. I was like, this, how could you do that to me? And then all the white people started laughing. Oh, look at the black on black crime.

2:27:28We don't gotta do anything to kill in themselves. Fap, fap, fap, fap, fap. All right, Pete George Floyd. That's a very interesting way to put it. That's exactly what my people saw Joaquin. And it was all in Tony and his crew of Hinchman set it up. Interesting. Hinchman. Hinchcliffe. Hinchcliffe. Yes. And he lied. Just right now, people are gonna believe that he just lied. It seems like he was lying. And we only wanted to know because we watched the video. I don't know what you saw, Jo. What did you see? I saw some totally different. I saw a guy that had to go to the bathroom. Okay. That's what I thought.

2:28:05Okay, we settled it. We're in the world of editing. I had to go to the bathroom. I went to the bathroom. And then I went to the bathroom and then I did sushi. I really don't know. I'm gonna let it go. Yeah, let's let it go. Let's let it go. Didn't go well expected it to go. Uh, uh, uh. But I appreciate the fact checking and I appreciate the research of the doctor's clip. You had Jamie. Thank you. It is kind of rude, Jamie, that you did that to Donnell. I thought that's the one he wanted me to find. I mean, you could have put up any clip, but you chose to go with the CGI AI doctor Tony Hinchcliffe Hinchman version.

2:28:37Yep. That's it. But long as like, how many fucking times have you done? Kill Tony three times. That's it. Yep. Really? Yeah, I did it in LA. Uh, maybe two. I did it in LA. I had a lot of fun. David Lucas was on that one. We had a good time. I quite a stand -in on that joint. Nice. I did that one and I did the one here. When David Lucas and Tony tear each other apart, it's the hardest I ever laughed. Oh, yeah. David goes after Tony so hard. Tony goes after, and they're both laughing really hard at each other getting clowned. But when David went out, it was an example of Jonan because everybody was like, oh, you didn't let him talk.

2:29:13I'm like, the way I came up with roast and whatever you call it, you don't let him talk. You just go into like person, you run out of breath or run out of jokes. It wasn't like, and now that's your turn, you get three seconds. Right. It's not a big fan of it. I don't like roast. Like, I might have been invited to like, or agreed to do like three roasts in my entire career. I think they're two personal. I think it's funny just some people, but I think it's just two personal. It's too easy just to be disrespectful. Oh, it's just a joke. You meant that shit. Right. And it hurts. Yeah, it's a license to be mean.

2:29:52Yeah, I don't like it. I did witness. I did witness. Whitney called me and said, I don't like the roast. Right, I don't do that thing. And then she told me how much I was gonna pay. I said, so I need to be there at five, right? That's it. We come off the pandemic. When nobody made money, I did it with her. I didn't know why they did it on only fans. Like only fans had comedy specials. I know, but it was dope. I really think I really saw her as a producer doing that and being able to put people together and like, she was really, really serious about making it look good and get the right people involved.

2:30:24It was fun. Yeah. She's great at all kinds of stuff. She's always juggling things. I remember I was talking to her. She was in the middle of writing a script, right? And she's like, I'm gonna put the script aside for a minute because I'm doing this documentary on violence. I'm like, what? Like, what? And oh, yeah, did I tell you I'm having a baby next week? Yeah, I'm having a baby. Nine months pregnant apparently. Yeah, out of nowhere. Picture there. Who would it own? She's a maniac. Yeah, but it was fun. It was fun to work with. I did it with her. I did it with her. I did it with her. And we had to roast without having to be too me.

2:30:57That's cool. It was cool. I had a good time. But I mean, if you ever, I'll send you the link for my special. You can check out. I'll just watch it. I'll just watch it. I will. There's a few that I need to watch. I still haven't watched Shane's. I didn't watch Dave's last one. I don't watch too much standup other than like, I try to like balance the amount of entertainment I get in general. I know I didn't really expect you to watch it. I will watch it. No, but you ever watch it. No, I'll watch it. You don't have to watch it, Joe. I feel like I have to watch it. You don't have to watch it. Jamie, don't feel like I have to watch it.

2:31:28Watch it right now. That's it. You tell me. Jamie's watching it right now. I like the intro. If everything, the thing not like the most to intro. Yeah, it's good. You got to watch it. I will. But you're not, you don't have to, but watch it. Because you were like, when is special? You can't probably watch it. All right, it was fun. Okay. But the thing is, one thing about a special, you've done a lot of them. A special thing about it is like, all right, what's next? It forces you to have to start over. Yeah. And it's a lot of people. People understand the pressure. I feel of a special. Because people always say, well, I, this is what people say.

2:32:03It happened to me last week. I did a show. Somebody said, I like to show I just saw more than I like the special. It's, I don't know if people understand. To funny is, you're probably going to see a comedian is right before he shoots a special and right after a special. Also, just live is always funnier. Live is always funnier. It's way funnier. I always say that if you see a really good special, a really good special is like 60 to maybe 70 % as funny as it is if you were in the place. Exactly. It might probably like 60. And that's the hardest, the hardest thing to capture is that feeling like, you can't capture it.

2:32:42What, with this special for me, first time I was telling you earlier, first time I did it, he can't did because of the COVID stuff. The second time we were in a Napa Valley, we were doing some shows there. And you know, Chappelle records all of his shows. Probably you do the same thing. So he asked the producer Ricky Hughes, he said, how many cameras do we have here today? She said we got five. He looks at me and says, do you want to shoot the special? I'm like, when he said tomorrow, I'm like, what the fuck says? Right. But I got excited because I was like, I like the idea of it not being a spectacle.

2:33:15Right. I like the idea of nobody knowing about it. Right. It was only three people that knew we were even going to go for it. Right. Everything else was like a regular show. I was like, oh, you know what? This would be so dope. No pressure. Yeah. Shot it. Killed it, Joe. I was doing a regular thing. I wasn't thinking about special, just regular show. Killed it. I'm like, oh shit, I caught Robbie. Probably like, oh, we got the special. He like, let me see it. You been saying that, right? Three weeks later, Dave caused me again. I want to shoot the special over. I'm like, why he said, I didn't like the production.

2:33:50I'm like, motherfucker, you're the producer. He was like, yeah, but it was, it was really small thing. He was like, delighting. And then it was people walking past, you know, doing a show. And I was like, what do you remember? Live is Sunset Strip, Richard Pryor. One of the funniest lines you remember, when he was like, look, why are people left? They came back to Seats gone. It was in the moment. It was live. It felt like that's where I thought if that felt live. He was like, down there, we'll put it out. But I'm telling you, if we're going to do it, we scratch the second one. Cut to the third one.

2:34:24And I think out of all of criticism and everything he said, leading up to his reasons why he wanted to do it again, I think that I caught it. And people's like, do you think that was your best? In that moment, that night, it was the best I could be that night. Beautiful. You know what I mean? Like, you know, we're doing shit. You say, I'm not doing that joke before. You know you've performed these jokes better. But can you capture it in that moment in that night where I think I caught a good vibe? Beautiful. Don't know. I'm not going to watch it. That was a lot done there. I love you guys. To take a leak and we're going to end this.

2:35:02We're going to wrap this up. No problem. Thank you very much. Tell everybody the name of it. It's a new day on Netflix. It's a new day. That's another sharp suit. I got two suits for two different situations. The yellow and the pocket. I like it. What's the button say? DR, it's my logo. Oh, nice. Yep. Oh. Proud of that. Proud of the go, then. Beautiful. Thank you. All right. Bye, everybody.

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Donnell Rawlings is a stand-up comic and actor. Catch his new special, "Chappelle’s Home Team – Donnell Rawlings: A New Day,” on Netflix.
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