#2127 - Eleanor Kerrigan

25:57And that wildness exists in football players. It exists in former fighters. It exists in, there's a lot of people that are running around out there that have brain injuries. And if you get someone a brain injury and then you dope them up with Ambien and then Marijuana and then who knows what the fuck out. You're taking ketamine and rockin' them. Fox moves. And she's just mainline in Fox moves. She just fuckered. Tower seven. Tower seven. She's just taking it. You have a device that you can tell everybody what you're feeling in that moment. That's crazy. And you're, you know, it's like you're trying to give responses out of people.

26:41Yeah. It's like testing an audience for some people. If they don't understand how to manage it, like psychologically. How many comics are we seeing just get addicted to like being on Twitter all day? Like get out of there, man. You're losing your life in that box. It's insane. It's insane. I don't know how people do it. It's so bad for you. I'm a little addicted to TikTok. Yeah, TikTok. I wonder if TikTok is, I wonder if TikTok is, I wonder if it's better for you. So you just scroll at videos of things happening that are nonsense. Sometimes there's news, but maybe that's better because that doesn't like, I don't have TikTok, but I have Instagram.

27:21Instagram does not make me feel the way that Twitter makes me feel. Twitter makes me feel like I'm watching a fight. Oh, yeah. Cats. Like it's a cat fighting a house. I just want to get the fuck out of here. I don't want to be a part of this. Yeah. Yeah. And it's also like a very poor, it's a very clearly poor management of time and resources. If you're using your time and resources to argue constantly on Twitter, but your life has to be a mess. It has to. It has to be a mess. It's impossible for you to only be disciplined in this area where you like, contain yourself in this area. The rest of your life, though, everything's locked down.

28:04You don't have any problems. But when you go after Twitter, it doesn't affect you. It doesn't affect the rest of your life. Bullshit. Bullshit. You're fighting with the invisible man, but that stuff is out there forever. It's out there forever. It's out there forever and it's also just a, it's 100 % proof that you are engaging in a foolish waste of your resources. Exactly. 100 % undeniable proof. Dice would have been in as much trouble as Roseanne if Twitter was, it might have been a thing, but he probably didn't know how to use it. But no, because we, he had been so many controversies. But I'm saying with the ambience, backed it from Dice, though.

28:42Maybe. Roseanne was like America's controversial. She's called her sweetheart for the longest time when she was on TV. Right. She was beloved. And then she grabbed her pussy and spanked with the natural anthem. I was going to say she did some shit. The natural anthem. Who knows what she was on back then? Right. Listen, this lady, they've been medicating this lady, left and right her whole life. And she's always, she's always like, I don't know if they got the formula right this time. Let's, let's move around a little. She's still working it. And it's so good. She got a lot of money and I'm sure those doctors, sure those doctors are helping out.

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30:55They can pull deals. We'll see if you're not making any money anymore, but you own a piece of a television show. And also, we're dealing with, it's 2024. I'm not in the TV business anymore, but I kind of know how it works. In 2024, I don't know how many people are buying old sitcoms. I'm sure netflix and streaming sites, maybe they could do it. But if they just decide, hey, we don't want Roseanne on the platform. There's shows you can't get. Like 90 sitcoms, you can't find. I think three -sunderfire. Try finding that show. No, and I love that. I loved her, I should say. She used to work at the store.

31:32She was wild, but she was funny. I think towards the end of her tenure there, she might have lost the plot. She got, I remember her showing up. She was crazy. I heard she's got a little, little nuts. And she had, she had such things. But she was so fucking funny. Yeah, she was very funny. She was very funny comic, too. Yeah, yeah. She would call and ask me to do her like, bizarre old favors at the store. And yeah, just to see if certain comics were there. She would have crushes on certain comics, so she's like, hey, so call me if they come in on my screen. I was like, are you coming in? Because you're hilarious.

32:08You're one of the ones I laugh at. So are you coming in? That's hilarious. But then she just stopped coming. But I think she did have some, but there's a thing called TV land, which goes way back, I believe. Because I have like, nieces and nephews that are like, Jeremy, I love Lucy. I'm like, yeah, I'm reruns. And I'm like, that's my favorite show. But they watch it now on like TV land. Is TV land, is that? I think it's a channel or could be on an app. I don't know. I can't keep up with the kids. I think the most. I still have cable. It's most. But most things have to be both now. You can't just be a channel anymore.

32:45You kind of have to be a channel and an app. I think you're right. If you're just a channel. But they've merged with the apps. Yeah. My niece is watch the oldest shows. And I don't see like nobody comes up and says like the bunker, the what's that got? Aren't you all in the family? All in the family. That's my favorite. But people don't say that one to me. So I wonder if that's available. It's definitely available because people send me little videos like Instagram videos. You see the clips on TikTok. You see them on TikTok. I don't use that Chinese spyware. I will get out of it. My spyware to be American.

33:18Oh, yeah. Good for you. I want people in this country sneaking around in my data and finding out what I'm researching. I'm so lonely. I want them all to know where I'm at. And every moment. Come on. Let's go. Bring it on, bitches. Yeah, it's just weird. It's TikTok. My niece was like, you have to get on TikTok. So I did, but I stink at it. I don't know. I don't know how to excel at it. I do watch the video. So well, you got to be trans. First of all, can you? Can you please fake it? No, it's not fair. I wanted to transition when I was a kid and my mom wouldn't let me. I begged. I begged. I think I was like seven or eight.

33:56I wanted to be a male body builder. Really? And my mom was like, imagine if that was around today and you lived in Santa Monica. Oh, I would be halfway somewhere. At least if I was a kid now. I'd have one nut maybe. Yeah, but we'll see. But I'm saying like, I begged. I told my mom I wanted to. I took a picture out of a male bodybuilder's magazine. Why? I ripped it out and I was like, this is what I want. And my mom was like, the guy. I like, no, I want to be a male bodybuilder and I want to, I didn't know transition. I just said I want to be a boy. And she was so mad because she had four boys in a row and she begged for a little girl.

34:33And then I came out and I'm like, what's up, motherfucker? You know, like how much of that you, what's up, mother fuckers was affected by the fact that you have all those brothers? Sure, just around. I didn't know. It has to be right. Yeah, of course. Because my little sister, Edie, is she's not girly by any means, but she's not as but she as I was. If you, but she still played the sports and stuff and fought whatever, but she didn't, she wasn't at, we were just surrounded. You know, the two of us, if we had doll, they'd rip their heads off, you know, so I'd be like, oh, cool, it looks better.

35:06And then we'd color it in and just do dumb shit. So I don't remember girly stuff. I know my mom would beg me to do it or wear a dress. And then I played rumble fumble in my communion dress. She was pissed. Well, just the amount of boy behavior and you were trying to fit in and you're the youngest. Yeah. And not the youngest. Well, at the time. Yeah. And then I remember this boy saying to me, because I liked boys, but I was very boy. How many older brothers do you have? I have five older brothers. Okay. So when you were born, you're born into a home with five boys. Surround them. Yeah. So that's the early developmental time where you're kind of like forming your view of the world.

35:50Yeah. And if you don't have no evidence, the girls are even real for years. For years. My sisters say, why am I locked to me? Why am I not like these? I did. I had to share a room with my sisters and they, my mom put this big like canopy bed in there and it's a little tiny row home and the middle room is like a glorified closet. And so she put this canopy bed in there. You can barely open the door. And then when I slept in there, I wet the bed for a long time. So they kicked me out. Oh my God. So I had a sleep in my brother's room. So there was seven of us in the front room. I don't know why I'm pointing like it's over there, but you know what I'm saying?

36:24So I was now in the room with that. And that's all I know. That's it. So I'm doing everything they do. I'm playing football. I'm outside with a helmet. She's slow. No, she's got a game. And you know what I mean? Like I was joking on the, I did the RU garbage podcast with those guys. They're so funny. And I remember the story because they were asking questions and I remembered when I would play like Hamble or Stickball, I take my shirt off and tuck it in the back of my pants and spit and everything like no shirt like my mother's song. Jesus Christ, you know, but I was eight or something. I don't know, but I didn't get I was like, that's what they do.

37:06Isn't it funny that a woman's nipples mean something? Why? Yeah, it's very, it's funny. I mean, it's so, it's so odd because even a woman that has the smallest of breasts, yeah, her nipples are like, you can see that's like it literally is the same form as a young boy. Like if you have a 13 year old boy and a very thin woman who has no breasts, they're very similar. Yeah. But one of them, when you realize it's a woman, you're like, oh, and that crazy. It is where you're essentially literally looking at the same organ is the same part of the body. It's not like you're looking at a vagina or a dick.

37:51Yeah, those are significantly different. Yeah. You're just looking at nipples. Nipples make you go, ooh. Because there's a slight drop behind it. I don't know. Have you seen the hack these holes have found how to do on Instagram? They breastfeed fake babies. You can breastfeed. So they got a tie belt. They got a rubber baby and these hoties, these hoties are pulling out giant melons and they like shake in front of the audience and squeeze them and then they stuff them in the face of a fake baby. And there's one girl. She's got her other tipped out too. Like, fuck it. What if he gets hungry on the other side?

38:25So she's just getting both tipped out. And it's a fake baby. Fake tits too. Big giant ass fake tits and fake baby and it's, oh, you're allowed to do it because you're allowed to show breastfeeding for educational purposes. Oh, this is how I'm going to get more fun. Oh my gosh. You just gave me the insight. These holes are scandalous. They know. They know. Wow. I don't know about the tiktok thing. I bet it'll probably get you kicked off tiktok. There. There they go. Oh, look at the baby. Oh, Jesus, Mary and Joseph. That fake baby and a big ass fake tiktok. There's a lot of fake things on there.

38:58What a filter, by the way. This is not a lot of attention, but that's the one I'd watch with the football like an idiot. Quite a few of these going around. Wow. Yeah. That's what you knew about it. The most obvious. That's a shitty fake baby. It is, it is. That's a dead baby. That's a doll. People are writing your baby's dead. No, but people. Your milk is poisonous, lady. There's some people that get really good fake babies. Wow. You have to look at the baby real quick. I think that's a rubber baby. So they're just getting away with showing their tits. Got it. Okay. I think essentially it's an ad for only fans.

39:30I was going to say, yeah, oh, that's, oh, God. So that's somebody's fetish. Yeah. It's, well, it's just the fact that they get the shoulder tipped. I don't even think it's someone's fetish. It's probably definitely someone's fetish. Let me let's be clear. Yeah. Someone, there's, at all the freaks in the world, some guys out there jerking off to women breastfeeding, for sure. But it's not that. It's just an opportunity to show your tits. Oh, absolutely. But now my boobs are starting to grow. I don't know why. How? Late life. I don't know if it's normal. I don't know. But for years, like, nothing.

40:05And now all of a sudden, I'm like, this doesn't fit. What's happening? So I'm going to start. These guys just came in. I didn't even know I was a girl. Let them let them go. I'm free to nipple. That was a nipple. They're in New York City where they're like, legally arguing that women. Oh, I've seen the protests. I've seen the protests. They should be able to walk round topless because men can walk round topless. Yeah. I saw a protest in Asheville one time. And I was having lunch with Carl LeBault. We were doing a festival down there. And it was packed. And we were both like, I'm not gay, but watching them flap while you're walking, it's just, I was like, oh, wow.

40:40That's what they're supposed to look like. And Carl's just on the floor, like, holy shit. I'm going to live here. Isn't it interesting that that's controversial that like there's laws that will tell you? So look, if there's laws about a man exposing himself in public, that makes sense because that's like a public health danger. And it's danger because the vast majority of like sexual predators, especially for like younger people are men, right? Right. So a guy with his dick out in public is like a public safety hazard. Yeah. A woman with her tits out is really no one scared. What is because of the predators probably.

41:19Right. Trying to keep them off. That's my point. That's my point. It's like it's the only time where a law is in that where you don't have any fear whatsoever about that person harming someone with their body. But yet you make their body a crime. Right. You make showing parts of their body a crime. Like you get a ticket or you get. Right. I think you probably even arrest you for public safety. But you get a lot of security in this exposure. But meanwhile, I could walk right next to that lady with my shirt off and there's no problems at all. But didn't before I think the men got the right to take their shirt off wasn't until like the 50s or 40 for a long time they weren't allowed to either.

41:57Real? I believe so. That's hilarious. Yeah. So would they do on construction sites? Would it just arrest everybody? I would mean they can't be shirtless at a construction site. It's like a job. You can't wear it. You can't be shirtless. They only wear shirtless when they were having lunch maybe. Have you ever worked at construction site? Are you out of your fucking mind? Wait a minute. Are you talking crazy? I'm seeing them in the vest and the shirt. Maybe today. Because I'd sit there and watch for a long time if that was true. If we were working outside, I did mostly construction jobs when I was in high school.

42:28Okay. So my stepfather was an architect. So I got a lot of jobs on building sites. And so I just get jobs as a laborer. It was a good job to get because you could always get them in there. It's hard work. But you would be outside topless constantly. 91 court -let -stand law bearing topless men. Supreme court Monday, let's stand a local ordinance prohibiting, this is in Washington, prohibiting males from jogging topless or otherwise appearing in public without wearing shirts. The court refused to review the constitutionality of a statute from the village of Southampton New York making it illegal for anyone to appear on a public street shirtless.

43:04That's a very specific area. So that's like, this is Southampton, New York. It's what they're talking about. I know when I lived in Boston, when we were working in the summer, we always had shirts off. You get a great tan. I can see it as a rougher, of course, like things like that, but like, I don't know, I'm just picturing maybe two -wool. It's fucking hot. Of course, it's crazy hot. It's hot, you're carrying lumber. And the building that you're building has no ventilate. There's nothing. It's just frames. You're basically helping carpenters frame shit. Sure. I'm my head. I'm seeing them like right now with the vest on, but maybe that's just my fantasy.

43:40The summer time, no shirt is easy. Oh, yeah. The hard one is winter time, no heat. Yeah. Because I had winter time, no heat gags. Whoa, those are out. Yeah, that's tough, especially in Boston. Yeah, I had some of those right after I graduated from high school. They were awake, up, call. Yeah, yeah. Cause like, hey, fuck, face. You better figure out what you want to do with your life. Or this is going to be you forever. Being in the winter with numb feet, moving shit around on a construction site. Mm -hmm. Fingers being frozen. I hate that. And you would have like a little public, a little public portable heater that we would all gather around to eat lunch.

44:19So you'd all stand around this blowtorch where you're eating lunch. Oh, my God. It's so dangerous, but amazing. Yeah, it wasn't really a blowtorch. It's like, you ever seen one of those? Like they have them on set sometimes. I know. Yeah, yeah. When you hot, shappelle and I did a fear factor. We did, I did fear factor on the shappelle show. So I came in and tie around bigams. Oh, yeah, yeah. Was it on fear factor? Hey, Joe Rogan. They filmed that in the dead of winter in New York in this warehouse, which is space, where they whatever they were filming at. And they had one of them heaters. So they would have them on set sometimes.

44:50Got it. It's like this big tube. Yeah, and it gets hot. And it gets hot. But you basically can go through a bunch of sandwiches in front of it. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you get the light on fire. Very dangerous. So we would gather around in front of one of those fucking things and just be like, just freezing our dicks off and then go right back out there. You got to carry in the cement, carrying the lumber. That was your motivation. Well, it was just a wake up call. You don't want to be doing no hard labor, son. But the point is, we could have no shirts on, walk around, no one cared. But if we were a bunch of gals, framing rooftops with our tits out, all the local tents.

45:27That's why girls now think big dicks were a bra. Didn't want to wear a bra. They just wanted to let their tits out like a guy doing his all the local hands. But your tits on, you dirty bitch. You fucking dirty bitch, my husband's looking at your dirty tits. Sometimes I'll see like on Melrose and stuff. You see them walking around and they have like these short shorts. One time me and Andrew were like, just at Starbucks hanging out, Marmelrose in LA and these kids were walking by. I mean, they were kids and he just like turned away and I go, what happened? And it was a girl like her entire ass was out.

46:02It was the shorts were all the way out and he just turned away like, that's a baby. I'm not looking at that. Classic. Yeah, I know. I know, but that's what they do. I don't know if that's a teaming thing. Well, I mean, I think that's again, there's always been girls that dress like that or close to that, right? You can go way back to the age. I tried. I tried. I wore cute little hot pants in the 80s. Yeah, I wore it used to wear a Boostier. He was I started clubbing like when I was 14. Oh my God. Illinois. What a fucking back. Hey, what the perfect background to be a comic. True. Well, once that this is what happened with the boy like me wanting to be a boy, I liked boys and this one really good looking kid that played football.

46:45He was like, and I'm like standing there. I remember like I'm wearing pat shoulder pads, idiot. And he goes, are you ever going to be a girl? And I was like, oh. And then I asked another guy friend, they go, how come someone so doesn't like me? And they're like, because he thinks you could beat him up. Like he didn't know. Nobody's a try to to the girl who may or may not be able to knock him out. Right. So I stopped. And I was like, oh, and then boys started to like me. And I was like, oh. You had to learn the new pattern of behavior. Yes. But I still am like, watch it. Like when guys start wearing cologne.

47:18Right. Like, oh, okay. Clean up. I stink. Yeah. I still. I still am like not have not so grateful to be a woman. Like I bothers me a lot. Does it? Because I still have that in me. Like, I'd so it would be so much easier to just be a dude. Do you think they could have talked you into being trans if you were like 12? Absolutely. 100%. And that crazy. And I'm good friends with Dylan, Mulvaney. We did a pilot together. That's hilarious. Dylan was not trans when I met them. How do you say it? I don't know. Be careful. You're going to get in trouble. She knows I love her. So I can't say anything wrong.

47:59But I live. So you knew her when she was a hero. Right. And we had the best time. But meeting her when I did, I was like, oh, she's more woman than I ever was. Ever will be. Like I know I have the parts. Even with a dick. I'm telling you more girly than I mean girly. And my best friend growing up was like that. You're a very kind person. You're a very kind person. And I just want to introduce this thought in your mind. People are performative occasionally. Oh, absolutely. And sometimes when people want you to think of them in one way or another, they will behave that way. And people can keep that up for.

48:42I didn't know them from anybody. We just met. Right. So you're saying she was performing well, I think he'd be deciding that you're a woman. Right. And then performing like a woman. Oh, I see. Okay. The thing that we can all do is you met me Eleanor if you met me. And you're like, oh my god, Joe Rogan is a woman. Like thinks like a woman behaves like a woman has off this. He's all feminine. Women energy like so sweet, so amazing. It's performative. I see. Like you're a biological man. Well, you don't think you could be. And there's a lot of social value in being trans today. There's a lot of you get attention.

49:26I agree with you on that. I think I think. You get attention for having nothing interesting about you. Other than the fact that you're a boy who wants to be a girl, right? That's it. And that is like a crazy low barrier to entry to be a part of a protected class and to be celebrated for people that will never be celebrated. But you don't believe people can be born and have like mixed up things. I do. I believe both things. I believe both things. I believe yes. This is what we have to be wary about because when you see these cluster cases, like particularly like young girls, we get like 10 girls that are on the spectrum and they all go trans and the school together, that's crazy.

50:06And you have to realize that people are motivated just like you were when you were a young girl and you were dressing like a boy and acting like a boy and then you go, oh, I got to not do that anymore. And then now boys like me, people are motivated by behaviors that get them positive reinforcement. And there's this in this time and this day and age, there's immense amount of positive reinforcement of being a part of the LBGT pride, whatever it is, reinforcement. And that makes sense because it's a natural reaction to the times when we were kids where gay people were shunned and shit on and it was up until 2013.

50:49Hillary Clinton was saying that she didn't think that marriage should be between gay men. It should be between a man and a woman. Barack Obama used to say that. They all used to say it. So imagine being a gay person, and so there's like this natural over correction. So we're in this over correction right now. But this over correction gets co -opted by opportunists who are just narcissists, just people with mental illness and people who realize that they can get a tremendous amount of attention by just fitting into this new, and it's also a great way for perverts and sex offenders. Sure. Yeah, you see that a lot too.

51:29To weasel in. Like, if you were a guy and you're really into dogs, you get a job as a dog trainer. Okay. Right? Guys really into dogs. Yeah. He loves working with dogs. You're a Patophile. When you get a job in Nickelodeon. Right. You would, right? Yeah. Who isn't there like a scandal that's going on right now? Yeah, bad. What is the Nickelodeon scandal? The Dan guy. I mean, I'm pretty excited. There's another one too. Oh, really? I'm just like a new one. I just like kids. I just like working with kids. I just like being around them and being alone with them. Priests. Being alone with them. I like being alone with them.

52:07Yeah. Just me and the kid. Camp counselors. Shhh. Let's keep a secret. What the fuck? That's fucked up. But there's humans that recognize that there's like patterns that they can fall into, where they can get more attention, get more praise. So, this is the Nickelodeon thing. It says, the actor has claimed he was sexually abused by dialogue and acting coach Brian Peck, who pleaded no contest to performing a lute act with a 14 or 15 year old and to oral copulation with a minor under 16 in 2004. Ultimately, sentenced to 16 months in prison in order to register as a sex offender in October 2004. His first interview since the release of the dog Bella shared his thoughts on Nickelodeon's response to the allegations.

52:54Yeah. I mean, how do you know when someone, I mean, if you hire, you're hoping you're hiring people that just like like making kid shows. Maybe they have kids. Yeah. But why can't the parent be present? Like this, this kind of ship, like they say kids that get molested and stuff like that. A lot of times it's parents just being like giving them off, you know, like, and not being present. Right. There was, I mean, I feel like I think about it. I'm like, why didn't we get molested? We were on our own for a long time. I thought it was a couple of bullets for all the kids. Did you really? Yeah, but it's your, you're trusting people.

53:28And most people you can trust and you hope you can trust these people. Yeah. You do know about UFC Heavyweight Champion, former Heavyweight Champion, Kane Velasquez? What happened? His son was apparently by, yeah, by daycare. And he went after the guy and shot at him from his car and got arrested and was in jail for a kid. Yeah. You think he's still a waiting trial. But it was literally one of those things where everybody that hears that, that's a father. If you ask them, what would you do if that happened? Like everyone says the same thing. If you can get away with sleep walking and killing your mother and mother, you should be able to be away with fucking blind rage that makes you shoot at some guy who molested your kid.

54:11Listen, I don't have children. And if that happened to one of my nieces, I'd be the one who's sad. I'd lose it. It's the most evil. It's disgusting. But it's also, it's one of the weird ones that today they're trying to normalize. They're trying to call it minor, attracted persons. When I say they, I want to be really clear. Yeah, it's just a few fringe psychos. But the problem is that a fringe that fringe psycho dialogue winds up on social media and then gets amplified by places like TikTok that want us to be upset at these kind of things, whether it's to program us or whether it's just to keep us like fighting and then engaging in the algorithm, which is ultimately beneficial for them, because that's really what they want is more views and more interactions.

54:57And so you'll have these wacky fucking people that give these speeches in public with cameras on them, whether they're talking about we have to understand this is an identity and this is a, it should be a protected identity, a minor, attracted person. It's like, this is not one person saying this. It's multiple people saying this. But it falls into that same thing. Like some people are fucking insane. I agree. I agree. I just like my best friend growing up, he was flamboyant from the gift. And I mean, we were friends when we were six, seven. So he and he would always be like, and he made me get into cheerleading because he like cheerleading.

55:35Yeah. I'm like cheerleading. And then I was like, can we just do something? How can we play football? You know, and then he started like, we would fight. And then we always used to say that we wished we had a button or we wanted to, there was a cartoon where you can run into each other. Wonder power is activated or something like that. Run into each other and you become something different. We were going to run into each other and become. And you would be a boy. Yeah. It's nice. And it never worked. But so he weighed it till both his parents passed and then he transitioned. Oh, wow. But he wanted that his whole life.

56:09He just didn't want to disrespect his parents. It's, it's 100 % a real thing. It is. It's the problem is, but I agree that there's always people that jump in and act. There is that. And then there's this other thing, the other thing is money. So you have to realize how many gender affirming care clinics have opened up just since 2007. If you look at the map of 2007 versus 2023, it's crazy. The difference. Yeah. I mean, it's probably now or in 2024. It's probably even more. But the, the, the number of those things that they, the, by the way, they're just like a body shop. Yeah. They bring a car into a body shop.

56:47They're going to want to fix the car. Okay. You, you bring a kid into a gender affirming care. They're not going to go, Billy, you don't just need to find yourself, man. Maybe you're just a gay man. They're not going to just tell them like just like there's a lot of social pressure on this. And you're very uncomfortable with your own skin and your own life. And you're thinking that this is going to be the solution to make you whole. Right. And also if you're a woman, if they give you testosterone, you are going to feel better. So think about the testosterone. It makes them alleviate anxiety. It does all sorts of difficult.

57:16It creates a sense of euphoria when girls take it and high doses. And my friend, his, someone in his immediate vicinity is transitioning from a girl to a boy. And he found out like what the dose was. The dose of testosterone. He goes, this is like a hardcore body builder, steroid dose of testosterone. He's like, this person was banging, banging like a lot of tests every week. Holy shit. And it was just changing everything, changing their voice, changing the facial structure, growing a mustache like weird shit, like knowing someone their whole life as a girl. Then also they have a fucking beard.

58:05What's happening here? Yeah. It's, so of course it's going to make you feel different. But is that who you really were? Is that who you really are? That's a hard part. I think about a lot because I think if I did it, if I, you know, what, how would I feel? Because there are people that do it and then say, I want to go back. But yeah, de -transition. And they get shamed by the way. Well, that's what's really scary. Those people get attacked, but because they're, they're fucking it up because here's the thing. And you just have to look at it like, look at it like a system. Groups of people always want more people in their group.

58:41Always. Like people that use Windows PCs will try to convince you that Apple sucks. Like they will. I know I have heard it. I've heard the argument. Now, trans people, unless they're actively trying to reproduce by going to a clinic. So if, unless you're a trans woman who has a fully functional dick, and you're having sex with a trans man who has a fully functional vagina and hasn't taken so much testosterone that they're no longer fertile. And then even so, like, what's going on there? Yeah. But, but that's like, it's not the regular way that people have kids. So you, and there's no guarantee that you're going to have a trans kid.

59:25So there's only one way to get more trans people. You got to recruit. Exactly. You got to recruit everybody needs a recruit. If you can't draft, you must recruit. That's what they would say about gay people. They're recruiting. Well, some of them do. Some do. But that's what I'm saying. There's always a percentage. I have this friend who is gay and he would always talk about how we could fence straight guys and let them suck their dick. Oh my God. I have so many friends. I love it. He thought it was so funny. He's like the all these straight guys. Yeah. Just get him a little drunk and tell him you suck their dick.

59:56It's amazing how many of them let you. It's unbelievable. And then there's, I know women that are gay and so forceful. One is like, was so, she would turn women, if you will, for a period of time, date them, drop them like a bad habit. Now they're all fucking confused. They don't know who they are. You know, I'm like, hey, am I straight? Who am I? What? And then go through all this crazy mental breakdowns. I have two really good friends that like went crazy over this shit. And I'm like, they got turned out by a lesbian. Turned out and turned down. Say a, a by bitch. Like, sometimes lesbians comes the hardest guy.

1:00:37You know what I mean? Like, three kind of behavior. Yeah. Drop you just, cut you off. Like you're out. Well, also you're, you're recognizing if you're in that dating game, right? There's like two players in that dating game. Yeah. There's the strong, like successful, like, dominator, which could be a woman. Yeah. And then there's the person's like, well, sure, I'd love to come to work with you. You know, like, more in New York. Yeah. It doesn't even have to be male or female, it just has to be, like, there's guys like that, they wind up with these boss ladies. Like, how many boss ladies do you know that have like these really like bag of milk, husbands?

1:01:18Like, these guys have zero will. That's a great one. They just have no will. There's no drive. If someone breaks into their house, they're going to faint like a possum. Like, they just, they just, there's no, there's no animal in there. You know, it's just, it's all gone. He's under the covers. You got a punny. Yeah. If it wasn't gone because of environmental conditions or biology, it's gone by the circumstances they find themselves and they have a dominant woman. And she, she yells at them and they get no sex. I try to not be that way, but I have done that. I have. I have. I have done that like a, I remember Andrew, Dice getting angry.

1:01:57I always call Andrew, whatever. Well, when he got angry at me because there was like a fight, he got an argument with this guy at 7 -11. And I got in between and I, and he was just like, what are you doing? And I was like, I'll kill something. What? You know, you don't want me to help. Like, I thought we were on the same team. That's hilarious. But he got mad and I was like, okay, you got to calm down with your brootness. Okay. And not, you know, throw a man through something because I'm an idiot like that. I just, again, like it comes a growing up with the wrestling and like, even like you and when I physically start, really literally start at wrestling and my mom was like furious at that.

1:02:36Like, what are you doing? We used to love going to watch you. But you was mad. You always saw you at the forum. It was awesome. You're a fucking pro wrestler. It was incredible. It was amazing. I loved it. I was like, this is so good. Yeah, you were really good at it too. It was fun. It was fun. My mom started giving me notes. That's hilarious. But it was entertaining. Sure. And that's what it's supposed to be, you know? And so, yeah, I would have like, you know, now physically in the ring fighting with people. Like, she was so embarrassed. But there was a point I was going to make in Elastix, my brain.

1:03:09No worries. But yeah, it's just, I'm saying like that whole trajectory of like, I'm still doing boy -like things in a girl's body. And I do believe where you're saying like it's, it's like my brother, Charlie joking, I'm talking about like it's hitting everywhere. He went to the doctors and they were asking him questions and she said, what are you identifying at? Now, Charlie's in his 50s and he goes, the fuck are you talking about? You know what I mean? I know. It's funny when they bring it up out of nowhere. What are you saying? What are you saying? I mean, bitch, like, how do you identify? But they, you're mustache and you're gray chest hair.

1:03:43Daddy's sitting there, you know, he's rubbing one out. Like, what are you saying? You know, like, but he looked at her because it's so foreign to him and the lady apologized, she goes, I'm sorry, I have to ask. Like, because they, people get, it's like, it's like, people get. Yeah, it's like, it was probably a DEI thing that they have that's attached to their business. It's so crazy. Yeah, it's, well, it's, you know, Vivek Ramaswamy, that guy was running for president. He's a brilliant guy and he said some very interesting things. When he said, he called it the tyranny of the oppressed. He goes, yeah, it's not good to oppress people.

1:04:18Sure, you should be, everyone should be free, but it's also not good to give the oppressed so much power that they can just run rampant over everyone else and everybody has to like adhere to their rules because they were at one point dime a part of the oppressed class. And I think that's the over correction that we're talking about with like the trans stuff. The problem is today, it can be pushed in a way that's so different than when we were kids. When we were kids, if you were a gay guy, you became a priest. You have a gay guy in high school that became a priest. Yeah, we did. And he's not a pedophile.

1:04:57No, I got a pedophile, unless he turned into one, but when I knew him, he was a regular kid. He was my friend's sister or my friend's brother, whoops, Freudian. My friend's brother, she like, you know, they would always talk about it. He's going to be a priest. So we were in high school riding the bus together. And we, oh, I think people even back then were calling him father. He was fucking 15. That's amazing. Yeah, but everyone knew he was going to be a priest. Yeah, my friend that did it, he's now out of it. Now the priesthood or the gayness? The priesthood, he's still gay. Still queer as they come.

1:05:34But he left the priesthood, which was weird because we were like, whoa, is he coming out? Is he? Yeah. And he left and now he just said they were changing too many things. Like the literal religion messed him up to get him out. Interesting. What would they change it? The Catholic church, my mom, please, she doesn't know how to listen to podcast. Anyway, the Catholic church changes on a dime. Like even something lent right now we're in lent, right? Right. There were so many rules that my mom had that we don't have, like my generation didn't have. And now it's a whole nother. Like lent is not, now I'm looking at kids like, what?

1:06:16You could do that. It's lent. You're not allowed to, you have to do this, this and this. But they've changed, they just changed so that they can recruit. That's why the Muslims are going to win. They don't give a fuck who joins. That's Ramadan is, you got a month and nobody's eating. All day long, no water, no food. We were in downtown the other day driving downtown LA and there's an alleyway. And this dude was in the alleyway. In LA? No, in Austin. Okay. Did I? I'm just in Austin. And there was this dude that was in an alleyway and he was, it was the sun was going down. So he's praying. Oh, I saw that wherever the fuck you are, you got to pray.

1:06:58I saw it in the York City. I mean, he was like, it was so hard to find a space in New York City. So I was like, wow, that is impressive. That's the whole issue. Exactly. He was behind like a pillar that like went into, there was a little bit of room to go into these offices. And he was literally just behind the pillar, just doing that. And I was like, wow, that is. Right in Times Square. Have you ever seen the one from Toronto? Uh -huh. You remember to tell us, do I have wacky candidates? Oh, yeah. Toronto, it was Toronto, right? Call to prayer in the street. It's bananas. Really? The street is filled.

1:07:34They just do the call to prayer and people just come out of their houses or. They don't know where this is. I don't know why they were there. I just saw the video and I'm like, whoa, this is Canada. It just, it just seems like. Canada is a mess. I don't know if you've been there in a while. I'm sorry. I know they have health care, but it's not working. It's a mess. They're, they're, their president sucks. They, they need some sort of no nonsense president. The straight and everything out or prime minister or whatever you want to call them. Yeah, the nerve of them. Get a better king. Yeah. What you're doing is nuts.

1:08:03Like the way you're, they're every week. There's some new strike on rights and laws and freedom of speech and. They, they just keep cracking. They stop people from being able to get guns. You can't have a handgun anymore. They're cracking down on all sorts of different things in regards to what, what can constitutes hate speech online. Whether or not they can filter your internet access and just. It's not good. They're homeless. I was in Vancouver. Did you find that video? Oh, it's, it's really crazy. They're in this. I want to see it. There's thousands of people in the street. This is all I can find is this part of a news.

1:08:46Oh, there it is. Give me this. Look at this. Look at this. This is in Toronto. Wow. This is in Toronto. So this is a protest for something. Oh, there it is. But it's still. It's still. Oh, it's a protest. Okay. I thought. Even if it's a protest, you get that many people that are doing that. There's not another religion that would do that. That would do that. They are so much more devout in their belief. Because they're praying. Like the Catholics would just wave a cross in your face. They do like a half -hazard. And a lot of people will come out and there's more Muslims are out there in the street on their fucking knees.

1:09:24Fuck your traffic. Where we're praying. You know, which is, this is, that's a different thing. It's Toronto. It's busy. Yeah. And Toronto and Canada, like their approach to immigrants was not assimilate. And assimilate and become a part of America. Right. Like that's what we do. We like, become one of us, become a part of it. Their thing was like, no, keep your culture. Do we say? Keep your culture and keep it here. Okay, what is your culture, Sharia law? Like what are you guys saying? Like you know there's parts of the world that are living like the 1200s. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that, but that doesn't look like that.

1:10:01Like it's hard to figure out. Like you look at a priest, you go bed of aisle, right? And then you look at a Muslim, you tear it. Like that's so bad. Like it's not, it's, again, it's a small portion. You see the thing about, and it's also like our version of it is like, oh, you see them there, so why? Yeah. What did we do? What is the thing? What was your part in it, little lady? What's, how many bombs have gone off in Yemen? Like what have we done? What have we done? What have we done in Iraq? What have we done in Afghanistan? What did we do? Yeah. What have we do to deserve? There's nobody to accountability is lost everywhere in the world.

1:10:36Yeah. We are like, like what we're doing is like so bonkers all over the world with so many different bases. We're the only country that has bases. How many, how many countries does the United States have military bases? Let's just take them. How many have they had a band in? Let's say yes. Let's take yes. Oh, I guess. I guess how many active military bases in how many countries? I'm trying to see if I'm smart. I know multiple military bases probably exist in some countries of strategic importance. Sure. But if we add a guess, how many countries have US military bases? I'm going to guess. Countries.

1:11:17I know there's like so many. I'm not smart. I'm going to say 15. 15. Okay. I'm going to go a little higher. I'm going to say 30. Oh, shit. Really? Yeah. It's probably higher than that. How many countries have military, US military bases in them? According to Al Jazeera, the number is not published by the Pentagon, but it is known to be around 750 bases in at least 80 countries. 80. 80. I was because I was thinking of the main ones that I hear. Imagine there's 750 Apple stores. I think they're in. I got to be honest. In countries that we invade and put an Apple store in. Wow. We're like, what is Apple trying to do?

1:12:03Apple and Starbucks. Side by side. They're everywhere. McDonald's just made up a little bit of Congo. McDonald's. But that's nuts. 80 countries. 80 countries. 70 countries. 70 countries. 70 countries. 70 countries. Plus military bases. Holy shit. So, you know, when you see terrorists and you go, why are they mad at us? Oh, yeah, I never. There's 520 Apple stores. Oh, there you go. So, there's more military bases in other countries than there are Apple stores. Apple, you're slacking. Get it together. In that wild. Wow. That's crazy. Wild. We're a bigger business. And people are still talking about Microsoft.

1:12:40Yeah. The US military is a bigger business than Microsoft. That's why they had to recruit the trans. They're like, we need just need bodies. Get that admiral. That fucking dude. Put him in a dress. Put him in a fucking make him an admiral. Yeah. Get everybody excited. You can become an admiral if you're a girl. You win one of the year. Get one of the year. Get one of the year. You're gonna look at you. I know you're a loser as a guy, but listen. You're a loser as a woman. Nobody wants to fuck you anyway. Why don't you just pretend you're a woman for a little bit and move up that goddamn ladder leotard.

1:13:06That's what you have to do. Swim it out. Bitch. Swim it out. That's the world we're living in. So these, and then also you have China, which is so much more clever than the United States. They've been around and they've thrived economically for 4 ,000 years. So China has been infiltrating all of our education systems. Easily. Infiltrating, buying up stock and businesses, buying up land. They have their fucking tentacles in the entire system in this country and they run the most addictive social media app. Like they always, and Adam Curry said this best. He's the original pod father. He's the first podcaster.

1:13:48The guy from MTV. Remember, I'm the current, yeah. I got named. Yeah. No agenda podcast. He's the best. I love him. But Adam pointed it out. He's like, this is the only time where there's been a thing that the United States makes where China dominates in what is ordinarily thought of as like a creative thing. Right. Like tech things. Like for like a social media app, that ticktocks the most addictive. And he thinks that all of this attacks on ticktock. He's like, they're not doing anything different than we're doing. He goes, all the attacks is all just really designed to shut out the competition or break it up.

1:14:26Yeah. And then make other countries like China, if they have an app like ticktock, you have to sell to America. Mm -hmm. And then you're going to keep doing the same thing. But now we'll have the data. We don't want the data in those other people that are shifty. We want to know our shifty people. That's right. We're going to keep an eye on you. We're shifting our own. We want to check your microphone and look at all your fucking text messages. Do you send to your friends? Yeah. We want to check your memes folder for fucking dangerous things. See how much makeup you really have. That's all they do.

1:14:58This guy in Belgium, they sent him to a year in jail because he's been sharing racist memes with his friends in a private chat. And then we went and saw the memes. Oh my god. They're like nothing. Oh yeah. Mine got out. But I mean, they're nothing in that like they were talking about like Nazi ones. But did we ever find that? The Nazi we did. We showed it on the show. See if you can find his memes. I find it funny. We found it again. But remember the one had guns in it and we were like maybe it was something to do with the guns. Yeah, there definitely was a gun thing. But the guns one was like they were in another country taking photos with guns saying something like we're going to take back our country or some crazy sh**.

1:15:38Well anyway, they arrested this dude. Okay. Yeah. But they're allowed to look in your private chats and then sentence you for memes, you send your friends. But that's how slippery this sh** can get. Yeah. When you give people control over what you can and can't say and then you acknowledge that you're getting influenced constantly by foreign governments and foreign agents that are trying to sow the seeds of chaos. Yeah. There's no gun charges. Maybe not. That's the charges. Just straight racism. Racism, Holocaust denial and relation to material shared amongst private group chats. Although Van Leaver goes to the Nies sending the material himself.

1:16:21So he was on the chat. He was on the chat that got all these things shared. Let's see what the actual memes are trying to find them. I've been trying to find them every time we talk about it. I can't find them again. That's insane. I bet it has it for four chance. I bet four chance got it. I don't even know how to look at it. You don't know how to look up on four chance. What do you do? A fake internet guy. You know what I do. I called Duncan. By the way, I'm all done all day long. No, hey man, I'll use my burner account. I'll ask the guys. I'm obsessed with Duncan. He's the best. The greatest human being ever.

1:17:02We forced him in to be in the talent coordinator at the comedy store. Yeah. Well, that's how Duncan and I became friends. Talent coordinator? Yeah, I used to call up and leave my avails. We'd have these crazy conversations about Alan Watts and some speech that he gave. He's the smartest person in the world. Well, he's a fascinating guy because he's so uniquely him. Duncan, he doesn't change who he is to be around other people. He's just, he's always been this really odd kind of hippie guy, but also very objective about things. And he'll see people getting sucked into a certain pattern of thinking and be like, hey, what?

1:17:42Hold on. He'll be one of the first to, and he's really great at satire too. He's really great at pretending. He's really into something. He uses Twitter for that all the time. If you look at some of his tweets and you didn't know, you think he's serious. He says, I read this is the greatest. He did one recently, something about the CIA. He's just fucking hilarious. I don't understand how people can't read the sarcasm. Because they're dumb. But I guess you're right. But what he's saying, I'm not smart, but what he's saying. You had to survive though. You had to develop some kind of smarts. All these brothers.

1:18:16But laughing at what he's saying, like it's so bizarre that you know it's fucking crazy. No, not if you're one of them illuminati people. I believe in everybody's eating babies and getting a dream of Chrome. Yeah. I'm looking for those babies. Well, there's a thing. If you're on this podcast, there's a certain group of people that will think you're in with the illuminati. They will think that I'm in. I'm in. I'm here to tell you folks. Me, the guy who has the number one podcast in the world, this fucking thing is like, it's all in my head. It's all me getting text messages. It's all me, like the emailing guys to get them to come on.

1:18:55It's all in my head. There's no CIA. That's what I would say. If I was a guy who is like influenced by the NSA and I was like an undercover spy, sort of like this. So that strip search was normal. I do. I don't know what you got in your pussy. Got a cavity search. That was the thing about the rock and roll movement in Laurel Canyon in the 1970s. Eddie Bravo made me read a book on it. Yeah. What the, the, the, the, the, I watched the documentary, I think. Yeah. There's, there's like a crazy fucking conspiracy that the CIA created like Jim Morrison, the doors and the rock and roll movement of the 60s, all the decadent rock and roll.

1:19:38Yeah. And it's, there's weird connections. It's like you got to go like, whoa, this is it. You got to go. There are some connections there. Here's the thing. I don't think you can create a Jim Morrison. You need to have a guy who's that guy. But Jim Morrison's dad was like a federal agent. Jim Morrison's dad was, what was Jim Morrison's dad? A general. It was a general. We get to have that. Wasn't he in the CIA as well? I don't think so. No, just a general. He was like the one that gave the orders that started the golf attack or something like Oh, Jesus Christ. Whoa. Okay. So imagine that. So his dad, deep state, right?

1:20:15So that's a connection. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Well, look at that rear admiral. It's not what I expected. It's not luckily. So he's not a general. So he's heavy duty military man. And then his son goes on and becomes one of the biggest rock and roll stars of all time. And like a complete counter culture figure, drugs and chaos and pulling his dick out in front of people. Right. Madness driving a 67 GT 500 Mustang in the desert and fucking hair and sunglasses. Yeah. And there's people that think that that sort of image, the rock and roll star, the decadent depraved rock and roll star image was calculated by the CIA.

1:21:00And that this was all part of the same anti -war movement. What they were trying to do is stop the anti -war movement. They were trying to stop the hippie movement. And they think that what they did was encourage a chaos that came out of worshiping these degenerate rock and roll stars, the world's drug addicts and saying crazy shit. Right. But ask it like you're taking away his talent. No, but you're not though. You're not. You're essentially saying that they promoted that. Like the town already existed. But they realized if you can get this crazy chaotic guy, sign them to a major record label and then push him everywhere and have these young kids see this guy.

1:21:42Worship this guy with the saying. Worship this weird, the lizard king. Right. It's fucking wild dude that you know, Val Kilmer played in that movie. Absolutely. Yeah, Val Kilmer like thought he was Jim Morrison. He lost his fucking marbles. I believe that. It seemed like Jim Morrison in that movie. But that like this documentary, this book is all about that the CIA had a hand in this. This is different. I think a different. I don't know exactly what they said he did in it, but this is an explanation of what happened. The details of the incident would distorted perhaps intentionally between Morrison and the other commanders on the scene, the Pentagon and the White House.

1:22:20That night, President Johnson interrupted primetime TV a very big deal in those days and told the American public that two US Navy warships had been attacked on the high seas. They was asking Congress for support to counter the North Vietnamese aggression. At the same time, Morrison and his staff told Navy headquarters in Hawaii that the radar returns that are destroyed, the destroyers had targeted were probably false returns generated by the rough seas. Headquarters relayed the information to the Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara, but he failed to give those details to President Johnson. So he held the details back.

1:22:55So based on Johnson's testimony that the destroyers had suffered an unprovoked attack in international waters, Congress approved of the Gulf of Tonkin resolution, giving the President the authority to conduct military operations in Southeast Asia without a declaration of war. So that was Morrison's dad was a part of that. So the thing is it sounds super far fetched, but when you look at what they definitely did with the Manson family, what they definitely did with Operation MK Ultra and Operation Midnight Climax and all these different crazy mind control experiments that they did and what they did with the Harvard LSD studies and what they did with the they were dosing people with acid and trying to make them do things and trying to turn them into psychopaths and they did it with the Manson family.

1:23:49They got Manson when he was in prison and dosed him up with acid and taught allegedly taught him how to be a cult leader allegedly and then provided him with acid and then repeatedly let him out of jail every time he got arrested for things. Yeah, because he was a lot. Yeah, and someone would step in and say this is above your pay grade and he would be out. Yeah, and they know that he worked with Jolly West who was the guy who was running MK Ultra for the CIA. So if they were doing that, you think they're going to leave rock and roll alone. No, right, right. No, they probably would do it. And then there's also some people now that are saying they were a part of funding the gangster rap movement of the 80s and the 90s.

1:24:26That was another way to so discord in society and when society is unstable, you can like control people. Sure. When society is stable, then they want to go, hey, let's fucking get rid of some of these bureaucrats that are useless. Let's fucking clean up the streets. That's a stable society with a great economy. Yeah. Now, you want things in chaos. And so that's the way you stay in power and stay in control. Yeah. What was it? It was a movie or something silly where they would play in the, it was a music. There were musicians, whatever they had an album out. And in the album, they were putting something to like get people to buy certain things or do something.

1:25:05Oh, so the bloominal messages. Yeah, but I do that in movies. I forget what it was. They would show like one frame and said hungry, eat popcorn. Yeah. They would show like a photo. Is it a silly, will, feral movie? I can't. It's like, drive me crazy, like Ben Stiller. And so they, but it was getting people to do things. It was crazy. And I was like, that probably fucking happens. Like you just movies and the pussy cats. Josie and the pussy cats. I know there's something stupid. Find themselves in the middle of a conspiracy to deliver some liminal messages through the popular music. It's so silly.

1:25:36Find themselves in the middle of a conspiracy through. So that was the TV show. Oh, no, this is later. This is way later. Yeah. Josie and the pussy cats was an actual animated show. Right. That's why I was thinking about the movie from 2001. Yeah. Is that Will Ferrell? I don't know if he's in it. I just remember it being quirky. I never saw this. I love, she's my favorite. Look, I love that dude too. I think I watched it because Parker Pauzi was in it. That dude from Shits Creek. Yeah. Shits Creek is hilarious. You ever watched that show? Oh my god. Oh my god. My mom loved that. Such a good show.

1:26:12She's like, put that shit on again. I'm like, it's Shits Creek. You know what's a good show that I used to shit on. For no reason at all. Because I just never watched it. The Big Bang Theory. Oh. Big Bang Theory is a fucking funny show. It is funny. It's a funny show. Yeah. People say it's canned laughter, but I think they did do it in front of the studio audience. They did. Well, some of it is canned laughter, but that's the case in every single sitcom. So what happens is, in any single sitcom, you'll have takes that someone flubs a line or something fucks up and you have to redo it. Sometimes you redo it without the audience.

1:26:46So you have pickups. Yeah. So after the sitcom's filmed, the audience leaves and they say, oh, Joe, you have two pickups, Dave, you have two pickups. And so you'll just wear whatever you wore in that scene again and redo the scene. So you'll do it with no audience. Yeah. I didn't think of that. I thought they redo it with the audience. No. Sometimes they do that too. We did that too, but you don't want to beat the audience up. Right. Sometimes if you're just a real quick second take, they'll do a second take. We'll do one more time, folks. But if there's like a real pickup or maybe they need a writing fix, like maybe someone comes along and sometimes they'll be watching it live and they'll go, you know, we need a better line here.

1:27:25And so, okay, let's get it in post. So then they wait until after the show and then they do it. So if you watch like an episode of the Big Bang Theory and no one's laughing, and the reason why is because they probably filmed that without an audience. Sure. It's part of the process of making a sitcom. Also, it's a funny fucking show. It's funny. And what they're talking about is Bizarro. Like that, we call my nephew Brandon Sheldon because he's like, Sheldon, you know, everything's a ritual, like you have to do it a certain way. It's incredible. But the way he shits on people and the way he does like saying things and then like they'll have to remind him, hey, that's sarcasm.

1:28:02And he's like, oh, that, like you people. Like you're so minimal. Yeah, well, he's also not that competent, you know? He's bizarrely smart. Bizarly overestimates his work. So even amongst other physicists, he falls short. It's very complicated character. It's very funny. I think it's great. I think he did a great job with it, too. No, it's a great show, but I was watching the other day. The reason why I found that show actually is a show that I think is even better than that, which is Young Sheldon, which is an Netflix show, which is no audience. I've seen that's new, right? Yeah. And Young Sheldon is about him when he was a little boy and it's hilarious.

1:28:36Oh, that's cool. It's not new. I think there's like several seasons. Oh, new Earth. I can't. Yeah, new Earth. Yeah, but I think there's like six seasons. I think they started making it after Big Bang Theory was done. So then they did Young Sheldon. Right. But it's a really funny show. And I was like, God, damn, this is about the Big Bang Theory. And then we started watching the Big Bang Theory. And I'm like, it's a good sitcom. And it made me think like, man, other than Miss Pat, Miss Pat who has a regular sitcom, she has an actual which it's filming about. And it's hilarious. It's hilarious. Yes.

1:29:08But you have to have the BET app to get it. And maybe it's on something else too now. Right. What else is Miss Pat? I see it on BET. So other than that, like, dude, they don't exist anymore. No. The audience sitcoms. There's to be a hundred of them. Not good ones. There used to be on the WB and the UPN and the fucking ABC and NBC and CBS and Fox. And there was so many fucking sitcoms. Yeah, I think now everything's not possible. Oh, okay. You can get it on everything now. Oh, yeah. So you can get it on Roku, Amazon Prime, YouTube, Google Play, Apple TV and BET Plus. Well, Apple TV's real good about that.

1:29:49They most shit you can get even stuff that's like, you know, I'm watching show guns, show guns on FX. Somebody just told me about that. I got to get into it. They said it's really good. It's very good. But you can watch that on Apple. Yeah. You just get on Apple TV. Apple TV's the shit. I love Apple TV. I have that. They just turned you into a fucking Apple robot. You buy everything. You get sucked into the ecosystem and they make it easy. Like you resist, but you're like, why am I resisting? It's so much better. Like my phone is a remote control. You use your phone as a fucking room. And it's a better remote control than the one that's on your feet.

1:30:22Absolutely. It's a stupid thing that the guy programmed. Wait a minute. This could be a remote. I'm kidding. My phone is remote. It's incredible. Yeah. It's the best. The Apple TV, I mean, go back to the TikTok thing. I would see a lot of clips from Miss Pat. People love it. It's a great show. So it's great to see. Because then this is another thing. They'll play clips from TV shows. So you're like, oh, what is that show? And then you kind of get into that. Or I never watched that whatever show was out a long time ago. And then I'm like, oh, I should check that out. And you'll find it on the apps.

1:30:54And so now I'm like watching it. So they are TikTok is telling me what to do. Yeah. They're definitely moving you in a direction. Yeah. I mean, it's not good. It's not bad. But the thing is the question is, should we protect people from the kind of influence that can scramble their brains? Sure. Because you can't, like, remember when a few years, a few months back, all the TikTokers, TikTokers had got a hold of what the fuck's his name? Oh, some have been lawn. Oh, some have been lawns led up to America. And they were all like, oh, my God. I saw them being lawn. He was the good guy. Like America is the bad guy.

1:31:38And he was like, oh, he's fucking cobrac chai. What is this shit? No, I'm telling you, it's his foreign influence. I guarantee you, there's some of that that's a part of like the accentuating that. And then there's also like the radical left today that wants to, you know, attack everything that's America and thinks that American flags are racist, you know? People are out of their fucking minds. Well, anybody that wears an American flag, they're considered like this, you know, Trump or whatever. It's a left, right? Is that the left? I'm not good. Look at that right there. I don't know. That's a guy in the American flag right next to Missy.

1:32:12Fuck yeah, it is. Oh, I was literally looking at my shelf like, hi. And then I'm looking at Missy's nipple. And yeah, that flag is gorgeous. See, my, I grew up, my mom worked for the Philadelphia Navy shipyard. So she had rules. You weren't like, when I see people with flags like bikinis, we weren't allowed to wear that. My mom was like, that's disgraceful. That's not how you wear the flag. I'm like, oh, okay. Like you couldn't have shorts with it on it. You had a folded a certain way. We drive down the street and she teard her flags and those people are un -American. Like she had a folded a certain way.

1:32:46You had to take it in when there was a storm. Like she is a little crazy about the flag. So when I see it, I'm like, oh, like I stand up straight because I'm gonna, you know, get yelled at by my mom. So I get nervous. But yeah, I do, I don't look at a flag and think, oh, that's, have you watched it over time? But it's bizarre to say, I watched it for a little while. I gave it a little more. Okay, but you see what I'm saying? They made Johnny like, no. No, but they made him, like he was, wait, no, he's the good guy in Ralph Munch, who was the bad guy. Right. And it was hilarious. I was like, this is, and then I'm like, is that really what happened?

1:33:17Like now I'm starting to think it. So the Osama bin Laden, people are probably like, fuck, we've all been lied to. Yeah. Cause we do get lied to a lot. So the second you see one thing, you could be like, say, we're right. Also Osama bin Laden was a CIA asset. Osama bin Laden trained the Mujahadin to fight the Soviets. He was a part of that. Yeah. So when he turned on America, it's not like we didn't do anything. Like, we're like a crazy girlfriend. Like I didn't fucking do, he just fucking lied. I didn't do anything. It's no big deal that I shot it with no out. Why, why'd you guys get kicked out?

1:33:56We were just laughing. Oh yeah. We're doing anything. I just laughing and they kicked us out. Like, I mean, times I've heard that. I was helping this show. How many times have you heard that? A billion. I was so disappointed in Don El yesterday. Don El was telling me he started his career as a heckler. Shut the fuck up. Don El wrongs. What? Start his career, heckling. He's like, son, I was moving tickets as a heckler. He was saying that people would come to see him heckle. They would heckle the comedians. That's how you got to started. Well, I don't know how to feel about that. That's how he got it started.

1:34:29He got his career started as a heckler. Our enemy. I could just feel bad about that now. Yeah, yeah. You feel terrible about that now? Yeah, I mean, that's awful. So how would he move tickets? Like, he would go to shows and prove he was better than the comics. It's Don El. It's all like, it's Gonzo journalism. You're not sure what's real. What's not. I do love him. He's the best. I love him too. He was looking sharp yesterday. He got a three piece. He does dress so nice. Sometimes he does. He's like changed his look. He had a three piece with a tie and a like a pocket square. Oh, good. Yeah. Netflix special and a pocket square.

1:35:05My man slim cut. He looked good. He looked like using a good shape when he was lost weight. I like it. My specials on YouTube. So I'm wearing a sweatshirt. Yeah. But specials on YouTube are great because they're accessible to everybody. No, I love it. It's a good move. I was a little bit like a discipline. Like, oh, I should try to shop it. And I sent it to a few people. You know, did a little bit of the shopping. But then I was like, no. I think the YouTube is the better option. It's a great way because you're going to ensure that people will find it easy and be able to get a hold of it instantaneously.

1:35:39Everybody has a YouTube account. Or if you don't have a YouTube account, you just use YouTube with no account. Exactly. YouTube is like the only thing that'll let you watch stuff with no account. Well, I knew that when I saw my brother, Charlie watching it. And I was like, wow, like he can't work Netflix, but he's got YouTube. Even things like Instagram or TikTok. Like people send me TikTok links all the time. I don't have TikTok. So I'm not going to click on it. So then I'll have to sign up or I'd have to watch on the website. It's like, it's annoying. I don't want to do that. And I don't want to sign up for TikTok.

1:36:07So I don't have it. And so I don't click those links. But if someone sends you a YouTube link, it just starts working instantly. You just, you don't have to have a YouTube app on your phone. It just shows you the thing. You can go to YouTube from other websites. And like it'll be like a embedded link. And you can watch YouTube without ever opening up a YouTube app. I don't think I knew that about the TikTok thing because I do send them to my brother, Jimmy, a lot. He doesn't know about it. He doesn't have TikTok face, nothing. You can kind of watch them, but you got to go to the website and ask you to download the app.

1:36:36You're like, no, thanks, China. So fuck off. Yeah, my brother, China. I buy it on the American propaganda. I'm not going to your Chinese website to watch an open letter to America from Osama bin Laden. By the way, I'm going to Google that later. Want to hear? Want to hear the open letter to America? How does that? Because they translate it. See, this thing is through AI, one of the really wild things about AI is it can seamlessly translate your voice and even your lip movements to other languages. So they're going to do that with this podcast where they're going to translate this podcast to Spanish, German, and what was the other one, Jimmy?

1:37:17Was it India? Was it Hindu? No. That's great. French. I think it's Spanish, German, and French. I think that's it. Is that right? I think those are the three at first. That's all that's up. Right. So what they can do now though, is they can translate like Hitler's speech. So they've got Hitler's speeches that Hitler gave in German. You put up what that's not, and you get to see it in English. And you're like, oh, he sounds like Trump. Like he's not nearly as radical as he thought he did. And I'm just kidding. He doesn't sound like Trump, but he doesn't sound, he doesn't brag about himself. But he's he's he's he doesn't.

1:37:56No, he's not funny. Like Trump is Trump is definitely funny. He says funny things. He no one's like him. But what he what he's doing is not like, we got to kill the Jews. Like that's what I thought it was all. I thought it was all like, we got to exterminate the Jews and killed when you see those things, those speeches. That's not what he's saying. You can't convince somebody just to say it outright. You have to manipulate them first. So he brought them in. He really brainwashed them for sure. And also he's methed out of his mind. Like, think, oh yeah, Hitler was Hitler was on all kinds of amphetamines.

1:38:26Literally the only you didn't know that. I heard it, but I didn't believe like, you can see proof of it. There's a video of him in the, I think it was the 1936 Olympic Games. And he's in Moscow and he's just rocking. Just sitting there rock. Look at this. Look at him. Oh yeah, but I see I'll look at that and I'll think it's the film from back there. I made off Hitler 1936 Olympics. I mean, well, did say this is sped up a bit, but he's still one. Yeah, I've heard dude, whatever. Dude, I'm doing that now and I'm not on meth. I'm like, I guess. Just look at all the other people in the audience. They're not moving like that.

1:39:03Yeah, that's weird. Bro, that guy's methed out. Even if it's sped up, but it doesn't look sped up. The guy next to him does not look like he's moving faster than normal at all. Well, maybe he does. That's not what it is. Maybe he does. That's creepy. Look at the way that guy lifted up his binoculars. It looks a little bit sped up. Like maybe one and a half speed. Something's off. You know, sometimes people watch podcasts at one and a half speed. Yeah, I see that. I was watching this pot. I was watching this YouTube video where these guys were watching another YouTube video, but they were watching it at one and a half speed and I was like, wow, that sounds weird.

1:39:37And then I realized what they were doing. I'm like, oh, they just speed it up to get the point quicker. Yeah, when I was in high school, I got a little bit obsessed with Hitler. It was literally I was a bad student, terrible student. The only thing that peaked my interest is this creepy guy was able to run five countries, get five countries to believe what he was saying and do what he was saying. He was conquering these people. And I'm like, this is, this was a real person. Like I was oblivious to everything. So I started getting like good grades because I was paying attention. And my mom was like, just like during the pandemic, she's like, never when you loved Hitler.

1:40:14No, no one loved Hitler. I was just, well, listen, also back then when you were a kid, that was 50 years after the war, which is like it just happened. Yeah. So you're looking at like your grandpa's age, your grandpa was alive when this happened. Like what? Yeah, he was in the war. Yeah. So it's like, wait, what? This is a real person. Like I just didn't, because it would seem so far away. And then you're like, this just happened. It's completely insane. It seems completely insane that that just happened. Yeah. But so the point is like, so now they can take this al -Sama bin Laden speeches and they can translate that into English.

1:40:56Do you use AI for anything else? I don't use it. My friend is trying to get me to download this app. And chat GPT. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, she says it every day. I know a lot of Duncan uses it constantly. Duncan. Because it fixes her letters. If you hate someone, say if you hate someone, Duncan will make an audio recording of you praising that person and talking about how you want to go down on her. And I'm not even gay, but there's something about the sweet smell for fermones that excites me on a cellular level. Like, he'll anytime anybody is mad at somebody, he will make some ridiculous audio recording, some satirical audio recording of Duncanisms.

1:41:40Because it's almost the smartest Duncan. Almost. To me, I just put him on a pedestal. I just, even like he would torture me when we were working together because he's the talent coordinator. We called him the chic because he came in after Princess Corey. So he hated the nickname, he hated the whole job. Well, he's just a comic to want to a job. Exactly. And he says that, you know, when I was waiting tables at the store, I would be very harsh to comics, right? And especially if I liked them, I would fuck with them a lot. And he said that he got off stage. And I said to him, I don't know what that was, but it wasn't comedy.

1:42:24I'm like, I did not. Because I thought it was my favorite. But I probably did. You did as fun for fun. Probably did. We all did that to each other. It was a good time. It was part of the fun of performing together. Yeah. But it's like what Duncan was, was like this, like just a complete unique person. Like, why, how are you doing here? Yeah. You should be in an ash rom somewhere. What's in the box? Little hobo. Oh, you fucking doll everywhere. Someone stole Little Hobo and he replaced it with a better little hobo. I know, I was very upset when I heard Little Hobo was stolen because that was like one of my favorite things to watch in the original room.

1:43:02Because it would do the music, you know, the whole thing was so good. And dice would sit in the back and just be screaming. It's his favorite thing ever. Because I was like, you have to see this. And then he came in to see it. And he's like, like this to Duncan worships him. No, it's incredible. It's, but Duncan is just a unique guy. There's no other Duncan's. I don't know anybody like him. I know people that like try to pretend that's that guy, but that's really him. He did call me an old mayor for a while. A mayor, not the fucker. Fucking kill you, Duncan. But you were always really good to go to like if I could always ask you if someone was coming in from out of town.

1:43:37If there were any good, you were the one who would give because a lot of people would bullshit. Because they were thinking maybe this guy's gonna get a sit calm, maybe I'll be on a sit calm. I'll probably say, oh, he was great. It's good, so solid material. And I go to you, you're like, fucking hack. He's a hack. I go, really? Yeah, he sucks. Like wow, really? You're like, yeah, yeah, terrible. As a comic, I feel like when people ask me, like, hey, someone's coming in from New York, I think, and I'm like, oh wow. Like I just, because I don't want to lie. Right, but I'm also, when I was waiting tables, I had no stake.

1:44:11Like I wasn't a comic. Exactly. So it's like, okay, I could say whatever I want, because I'm in a different field that, you know, but now I'm in the same field. So what if I'm coming to New York? Somebody's like, she kind of sucks, you know? Well, whatever. But then be undeniable. I'm just the same. So I get nervous that it's going to backfire. But so. Well, that's how it works. It will. If you talk shit, people will look at you. You know, like if you watch groups of people that have developed like a hater community, that hater community will always target them. They'll eventually turn on them.

1:44:47Because you've developed a bunch of attack dogs. Yeah, but now people like, in a text read, they'll ask about people and, you know, we always fuck with each other in the text threads. And you can be very vicious and, you know, send horrible shit to each other. And so, you know, somebody brought up some comic from New York. And I go, oh, they're really good. Oh, that's the new Eleanor. Oh, they're really good. And I'm like, you know, fuck yourself. Because now watching people in a different light. Yeah, you know, I don't know. Yeah, but there are people that are objectively hacks. Like you see.

1:45:19Oh, and you still see them clear as a fucking. I mean, anything. They're just like plug and play. Yeah. They like find a topic that everyone's talking about and talk about that topic. That topic. That you take. No, zero unique take. But also like, sometimes it's internet jokes. And I'm like, dude, you're getting away with this. Like Rick Ingram said something about a comic that getting a lot of press right now, whatever you want to say, for their special. And he was like, this is Vod Villian. Oh my God, it does go that far back. Because I'm like, yes, that is accurate. That is accurate. But I didn't, I don't try to shit on as many people, but I do see it still.

1:46:04Yeah, just it's sometimes better to keep moving. But sometimes you have to be honest. Like, sure. There's a problem when you're running a club, you know? Oh, god, yeah. My situation, thank God I had that. By the way, that club is so fucking amazing. It's pretty fun. I can't. Yeah, I love it. I mean, two weeks, whenever I was here, I'm still not off that high. Yeah. Still not off that high and getting a deal with down my rare, even fucking better. Yeah, it's a fun place. Yeah. So I give up all the power to add them. I basically say, like, you know what you're doing? You're really good at it. You decide who's booked here or not.

1:46:37And we talk about it. We talk about certain things. But, you know, when someone hits me up and they think, you know, this is not the level that we're working for. It's hard to say. Like, when you say to that person, like, you're, you've lost the way. Like, I don't know what you got, but it's not good. Whatever you just did, it wasn't comedy. It's so hard. I don't know what that was. But the thing is, it's like, if you, especially if you're in a scene that sucks, like if you're out there, that's one of the things that's the most beneficial thing about the club is that you're involved with a bunch of other comics now.

1:47:12Sure. You know, it's a scene of like -minded people. Yeah. And everyone's kind of doing the same kind of thing, you know, and you get to like, you get to feed off of each other's success and energy. And there's a lot of comics out there that do not have access to that. And then they get stagnant. Get stuck in this little, like I thought about this job. I didn't get a long time ago. And then I saw a person who got the job. And I was like, oh, I'm glad I didn't get that job. It was a writing thing. But now they're stuck in that little - That's the velvet prison. Right. And they can't get out. That's the velvet prison.

1:47:47It's a bad person to get in. Because you get a good living. And then all of a sudden during the pandemic, all that shit got shut down. And all those guys were like, oh, no. Yeah. And I can't go on the road anymore because nobody knows who I am. Because I've been working in a writer's room for 20 years. And now watching that person like try to bring themselves back. And you're like, the paddles aren't work. And you also have a family now. And you have a mortgage. You can't get in the - Not a 21 year old guy on the road. Where you could just kind of like sleep with two other dudes in a hotel room and crash on the floor.

1:48:16Yeah. On the sleep with the tub. Because everybody snores. Right. You know what it's like? We did wild things back then. I stopped in a storage room once. I did a gig on an island. And they had cots in a storage room. This is like canned tomatoes and shit. Where we had a bathroom that we could shit in. And then there was like, there's nothing there. Yeah. There was no hotel. It didn't exist. Yeah. There's so many gigs like that. But those, they build character. Those are important. Oh, certainly. I can't do those. Certainly, build character. No, but I will say this. I do kick myself in the ass a lot.

1:48:49Because I didn't start when I first moved to LA. I waited tables 12 years. Then left came back a year and a half later as a comic. That's mental illness. I know. But it's not. You just didn't jump. But that's weird. Like all those years, no interest in it. No, nothing. That's the weird part. Because you didn't have an interest. Well, no. And I think it was Freddie. When Freddie Soto passed, that was the jarring moment. That was like, what are you doing? And he would say it constantly. You should be doing standup. Come on the road. That kind of shit. And so a lot of comics said it. But it was, because we would fuck around in the kitchen.

1:49:25I mean, I'm doing bits in the kitchen with you. With the first stand. Now, I know you still is do this thing. Well, I would say, hey, I got to send a letter. Do you have a stamp? And she had an apron. She would put her hand in her apron and just start fingering herself. And I'm like, are you finding the stamp? What? What? What? What? People around us would be like, what the fuck are you guys doing? I'm like, are you OK? Yeah. And it's just like this running gag that we did for like five years. Stupid. When you're bored, you're doing comedy in the kitchen. But we're just fucking trying to find things that would entertain our brains.

1:50:05Right. But you were always doing it with us. So like, then you did the pro wrestling. And then you just stand up after the pro wrestling. Yeah. Oh, OK. It was a big sum. But it worked. Like, now you're a headliner. Like, it worked. And that's what I'm saying. I'm loving it. I mean, probably the, I got lucky with like going on the road with dice. We only had a few uncomfortable encounters where I had a share of room with him and his ex -wife. Ah! That was hilarious. I've been on the couch. I'm not listening. I swear. La, la, la, la, la. I've never heard any of this before. That's crazy. Dice made you share a room with us.

1:50:37Well, just it was, they'll, I'll tell you when I have it. He's already diced. He already sold out Marises Quigard. It was doing great. It was my fault. It was I, I was supposed to leave at a certain time and the playing got delayed, not my fault. But whatever. So it was like, oh shit, or immediate like that, that was the only uncomfortable other than that. We're in five -star hotel. So I'm spoiled. Right. You know, I get that little one thing. And it was, you know, oh god, what is this? You know, yeah. Then I go on the road as I headliner by myself. And I'm like, oh, this is different. Yeah. Not as bougie, but we're getting there.

1:51:10Are you bringing people with you? Not yet. That's why I want to make this like my special. I needed to go up because I think that's a great asset to be like me and Andrew have so much fun on the road because we're such good friends. And we fuck around to those videos all day. And so we make the most of it. But when you are on the road and you have to use people you don't know and they're fine, but having your friends is really a, it's a great way to do it. It's the only way. It's really it's, but you got to get to a certain level to be able to pay them to do that. Yeah. I started doing it before I really could afford it because I realized at a certain important time, it's better to have people on the road with you then to make, well, I could afford it.

1:51:53I should, when we correct myself, I could afford it, but it was cost me money. Yeah. That's what you're losing money in your gig. Yeah. Because it wasn't, I was only getting a lot of money back then either. So it's like, if I knew that the club wasn't willing to pay airfare in hotel and pay an opening act like a good amount of money, like more than they're getting normally when they would be working on their club. So then I started bringing guys in the road with me and I was like, oh, this is so much better because then we're going out to dinner together. We're laughing. We're in the green room together.

1:52:24We're laughing. We do shows. We're laughing. We go to the airport. We're laughing. It's fun. It changes the entire gig. And it makes the gig a great time. And I'm out there with Duncan and Joey and Ari and so their family. So we're having a great time. It was a great time. Yeah. It was just fun. It was just fun. And it just makes the whole thing more of an experience and then you're getting to watch them grow as well. And now they're headlight. They're doing it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Everybody is moving up and that's a positive. Exactly. Everybody's learning from the road and it's also, it's like, it's just the experience.

1:53:01And the experience of the job is we're all like, oh, we're so lucky we get to do this. We do that all the time at the club here. It's like, well, God, it's so lucky. We're so lucky. Last night me and Steve Small were like, we're so lucky to be here. We're just in the green room loving it because it's just so great to see. It's family. It is. It's family. And when you meet somebody on the road, like you go to another city and you see somebody that you kind of came up with, they're like, hey, you're like a dog. Let me hang out. Let's go hang out. No, there's something extra special about being on the road with some friends from a different city.

1:53:33Like one guy's working at a local club. When did you show over? 10 o 'clock. All right, let's meet up. Oh, you have two shows. What a pussy. I'm sorry. I'm still. Yeah. But those days are, you know, like it's hard to appreciate it while it's happening. But that's the rarest of rare in the world of occupations because you do a thing that is really fun to do. You love doing it and other people get a great joy out of it. Yeah. Like the people go and they feel better and you're doing it with other friends who are also doing it and also enjoying it and everybody's just having a party. And you're just making the whole journey just more fun.

1:54:14Yeah. Just about better experience. Like it's just what I'm lucky for another fortune of thing is dice loves doing clubs, right? And I mean, he can do theaters, whatever, but he loves doing these little clubs. So what he'll do is he does the early shows. He doesn't like to do two shows. So I headline the late shows. Nice. So it's like we're still getting hang out and then I'm meeting a lot of cool like locals from different areas. So that's a little easier in that like I'm still hanging out with my buddy and then I'm meeting new people. That is nice. Yeah. So I am very, very fortunate not what to work with.

1:54:46I haven't got that kind of go up in LA nowadays. I'm always at the store, of course, but I do the laugh factory, the improv. And sometimes I'll even go like do the ha ha. I haven't done it in a while. The ha ha is a good break, but I love the ha ha too. It's good. I never fucked with flappers. I think I only went up on flappers. Yeah, I haven't. Yeah, somebody wants there, I think the ice house they say is like all revamped. I haven't done it. I heard it's honest. To be honest, since you were there. Yeah, that was a great spot. Well, that's where I used to go when I could kicked out of the store.

1:55:18It's been a lot of a time with I. I f**king nerves with that. Yeah, it was a fun time. It was fun, piece of history. It was fun. No, but yeah, what was it that you were doing the Friday night chronicles or the ice house chronicles? I'm sorry, but we did the ice house and did the improv quite a bit too in Provin Town. But I always miss the hang of the store. The hang of the store was always the different thing. We had that quite a bit of the ice house. We had a good hang of the ice house. Well, say you built that with your club for sure. The hang is phenomenal. The show itself great as well, but it's like that hang is so cool too.

1:55:54It's important. But you brought that important because I do feel like, even if I work the other clubs, I do wind up back at the store because they have more of the space to hang. But you know, some nights you go, oh, it's not tonight. And then some nights you're like, oh, okay, this is like an old, you know. Yeah, well, that was always how it was even back in the day. You'd go down there and know it. I'd be there, but you were a few haters. Waiting for you. Yeah, and as a waitress, I'd be waiting for eight people so we could start the show. So it was fucking rough times. Yeah. But those nights sometimes were like the best because everybody would show up and they're be, you know, we just hang in the kitchen.

1:56:36Well, that's where I like the whole. It's been developed, you know, oh god. Yeah, those crazy late night sets. I remember him showcasing. Oh, he, I did his show when I was here. I came in a little bit early and I did his show on the Thursday night and it was the crowd was phenomenal. They love him. And I realized I said something a little like, you know, out of control. And then I got a big, I go, oh, this is a Holtzman show. Okay, because for a second, I was like, yo, you're not opening for that chill out. This isn't a crowd that expect. And then I realized, oh, it's Holtzman. Yeah. And I remember him showcasing for Mitzie and, you know, she was passing on him, like not passing him, if you will.

1:57:18And he'd come in the back and he crawled, like murder and he'd come right in her face to me and be like, was that good enough? Was that good enough? I'm like, why are you yelling at Mitzie, sure? And she passed him in the belly room. That's where she passed him. Oh, because she, it was like a whole thing she put him through. She really put him through the ringer, but it was great. And he just would come in and come in. We had so much fun with him. Remember after September 11th, she would let him go off for two weeks? Because he would bring it up. Bring it up. He was going to open with it. Of course.

1:57:53He did it with the Oklahoma City Bombers. Yeah, bombing. And he did it with the women who drowned our kids, Susan Smith. We talked about the night after like all the Harvey Weinstein shit came out. Mm -hmm. I don't know if I should say what I should say. I'm not going to say what the baby is. Don't say what he said. But what I was saying. Me and Adam were in the back like, they're going to lock the doors. We're done. I didn't see what he said about Israel after October 7th. I was not there, but I could only imagine. He did not leave that alone. No, he didn't. He's a wildfucker. And he's putting these road gigs up.

1:58:29He's going to do road gigs and then puts videos up of people leaving a show. It's a lot of people getting upset. Oh, it's a star. It's my new favorite thing. Watch. Because you know, I had to deal with it. And a lot of them back in the day, like they would walk out. Can I see the manager? Like it became a thing I used to fuck with Holtzman. And he'd say he was like, you'd see he's saying stuff. People aren't like loving it. And I'd be in the back of it like, can I see a manager? Please. And you shut up bitch. And he crazy. But it was like a, I feel like Donnell. I used to heckle. I'm a bit. But it was a bit.

1:59:01It was a running gag. We did at the store a lot. We used to do a running gag with Brian Oats. So tell us about your gay son. Of course. My favorite thing to say. But people would say it too early. I'm like, not yet. No, you got to wait on that one. Yeah, yeah. And he would go, I'm proud of my boy. And he just told me that's my boy. And we just go into this bit and you just like, what the fuck are you saying? Sometimes you would add crazy shit to it. Like we were at dinner. Yeah. We were at Mityshow's house. Aunt Link Letter was there. Who? Ellen are carrying it. Like he put random people in there.

1:59:35With Bizarreau historian. And then I remember Mitys used to fuck with them and make him follow certain people. So he would follow Tonya Lee Davis. I don't know if you remember her. Yes. Very funny. I don't know. A little person. Thank you. I couldn't remember the proper term. And she'd crushed, right? And then she'd get off. And she had a chair on stage and everything. And Mitys would be sitting in the back, Holtman go up, throw the chair down. What kind of shit is it? What is this? A circus? Who's up next? The bearded woman. Like he just did it. He could handle that like Tonya Lee was in front of him.

2:00:10And Tony knew he was doing it. So she laughed too. She didn't care. But he'd throw the chair down and just yell at Mitys for booking little people. And Mitys loved it. She thought it was the greatest thing ever. And Tony would laugh too. So she didn't care. She loved chaos. She really did. But it was fun to even make it more fun like a drama. Yeah. Tony was walking away like fuck. But she knew it was a gag. So she didn't care. And she's killing it. She's still torres. But it's just so funny. Like I would love to put them back together. Just like a bunch of years later. Because it's got to be like 20 some years.

2:00:44I've been doing this 16 years. That's crazy. I know. That's legit. Every when you get over 10, it's like getting your PhD. Really? Yeah, 10 years is like your real comic. I cannot. It seems like. I mean, people have done it quicker. But you got to be really obsessed. And maybe you have a special talent. And maybe. Pretty lucky to. Could be lucky. But it also could be you are used to talking in front of people. Like maybe you were an AA. Like a lot of guys from AA became really good comics. Yeah. Especially in Boston. Because they go up in front of people and tell stories about being hammered and all the shit they did.

2:01:18So now I got to find my car. And everybody's laughing. And it's funny, but it's sad. But it's hilarious at the same time. A lot of really good comics started out in AA. Yeah. And so that was like a thing. And also they had a lot of experiences to draw from. Because they had this crazy life. But now they're sober. So they had sort of a theme on the launch stage. That was like a cheat code. And I saw some guys get good really quick that way. But it seems like 10 years is the number. That's the spot. That's a lot of. And even then, at 10 years, you're still like, oh, are you any good? But you're trying to like sort it out.

2:01:51You're trying to figure out what it is that you do exactly. I feel like that at 16 years. Yeah. It takes a while. I still feel like that sometimes. I still sometimes I just reevaluate my stuff. And really, I love to be inspired. And when I'm inspired, the key is acting on that. If I get inspired, if someone really funnies at the club, and I see him like, that was great. Now I want to go right. Right. But you got to really go act on that. Right while the inspiration is still. Why do I got that ember? Keep it lit. Yeah, keep going. And then go with it. But, you know, it's like, you always should be fucking with it.

2:02:33You're always like looking at it and tweaking it. That's like me and Norman were talking about that the other day. He's like, does it ever get to Groundhog Day? And I was like, not if you're writing new shit, it doesn't. Because you're always getting scared constantly. So there's always like some new thing you're fucking with. We do a lot of shows in New York together. And I see him at every show, like if I'm at New York comedy club, if I'm at the seller, wherever I'm at marks on the show, I'm like, this is great. Like no matter what, he's still out that like, I think the night before he did, he just did a big one in New York.

2:03:09Not the Carnegie because that's where I did. But I was with Tyson. He was doing a big one and he was like, you know, how do I, do I take the subway like a normal? And I'm like, take the car, get a nice car or something and take it there. I forget what venue he was doing, but it was giant. And it was a big deal for him. And he, he's still at the stand the night before, like doing shows. And he's like, well, see you guys after the big shot. You know, he's so, yeah, he's so down to earth, which I love. Because you're still out there grinding. And I remember one night I was at the seller and I was, I was mad at myself because I didn't do a new or bit.

2:03:42And he goes, plus he, like, he didn't even, like, he was like, he bought the fucker, but, but he's right. Like, do the bit, take the chance. He's just always on to. And then when we do protect our parks, he's just like, he's like, just a pun machine. Half of it, like, you can't even address him because it would just like throw everything off. You'd never get a sentence out. Just like, he just, he just, he thinks it is such a different way. He really is silly. He's a clear sign of mental illness. Unbelievable. Those things are insane. Yeah. It's like that, the stat you can see in his back pocket.

2:04:14I thought he had a booty from one side. I mean, that's what he doing. It's all flat on the other side. They're all curved and sweated on and shit. It's been sitting on him for years. I believe it. Very strange guy. We were going from the stand to the comedy seller. And so we all piled in our body. This guy Greg Stone also hilarious comic. And we jump in his car. He's got kids. So me and Mark were like wedged in baby seats kind of things. Like, we moved them, but we were like, wedge, and he's like, is this good for you? Always on. And we're just literally on each other's laps, like squished in poor Greg Stone's car.

2:04:49Yeah. And then we all did the sets at the seller after. But I was like, I hope he doesn't watch because, you know, I don't want him to judge. Call me a pussy for not doing my new shit. But I worry about because I talk so much shit about comics that's right. Yeah. Well, that's why you got to really make sure you dot your eyes and cross your teeth. Yeah. So you can watch my special and you can see that I work really hard. And where is the special tell people how to get it? It's on YouTube. It's called no country for old women. That's a great name. I know. And it came out March 1st. Or it was like women's month.

2:05:24And I was like, you don't watch it. You hate women. No, it's getting. Is that March women's month is longer than black history month? Well, we're women. That's how they spelled my name. No country for old women.

2:05:37Do you fucking believe that? That's how my name looked. Was that on purpose or was it a joke? No, they didn't know. We had a wind storm the night before and it blew those letters off. Oh, no. How fucking crazy. That's hilarious. Yeah. And I did it in the OR. We kept the lights on. We did good. It looks beautiful. Lights are incredible. My friend Lexi Shoemaker was a director. And she really see the light on the bottom of the stage. It kind of brightens it up a little bit. There she is. Pop in the coach. The nerve of her to do this. Somebody. It's really good. I'm very, very proud of it. And I love the name, of course, because I love being silly.

2:06:15The name is awesome. But it's you know what it is because we were talking about women, you know, people said if you talk about sex, if you talk about this, politics, whatever it is, they do tend to show. Oh, she always talks about her, you know, sex. She always talks about this. She always talks about that. Fine. So I'm and they always say, you're old. Yeah, I know. And I'm fucking fine with it. Like I'm happy to almost be dead. Like I don't know what else you want me to do. Well, it's just people are just always trying to find some way to shit on you. Yeah, the person on stage. Get attention.

2:06:45I'm old in my title. Yeah, deal with it. Yeah, deal with it, fucker. All right, Eleanor. Am I going to see you tonight? Yes. Okay. I'm excited. All right. Thank you, my friend. Oh, you got more things exciting. No. Oh, what are the comedy store podcasts still? We're still doing that comedy store podcast. Nice. And hopefully what's up Doc with Jeff Danish? We'll be back where we watch documentaries and reveal them. We have so much fun doing it. Oh, beautiful. Yeah, yeah. All right. Give everybody your Instagram. Instagram, EJ Carrigan. And I think it's just EJ Carrigan across the board. Somebody else.

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