#2132 - Andrew Schulz

24:11So you've got pharmaceutical drug interests that A, fund the network, right? They pay for so much of the advertisement. So, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you can't just hold into the advertisers. Yes, yes, yes. If the news said no more pharmaceutical drugs, let's imagine if the government says this. The government says no more pharmaceutical drug contributions to super PACs, no more pharmaceutical drugs, ads on television shows and newspapers, no more. Then you have to fill a massive void that's missing from those ads. And you're going to have to bring in Toyota trucks and fucking all those different things.

24:48Yeah. But you're missing out on a lot of fucking money. So if that's a giant portion of your ad revenue, you're going to avoid all kinds of conversations about vaccine injuries. Yes. They're not going to come up. You were going to shut them down and go to commercial. Yes. You're going to say, well, the studies don't show that. The study that you'll talk over RFK. What you're saying is just simply not true. Vaccines the reason why we don't have, the vaccines have never been shown to cause autism. Vaccines, we'll be right back and they go to commercial. And then it's just like the person shouted them down.

25:22They're probably getting talk and they're ear, don lemon, get off the subject. You know, like there's there's probably someone in their ear because they do have ear pieces. But here's the thing. I don't even know if they have to tell you when you know that you were being paid by someone. It's very easy to just go along with whatever narrative they support. 100%. And that's the tricky thing because a lot of times we act like there's these like group of six people that are that are disseminating this information. They're directly hitting up Don Lemon, all these other people that you must behave this way.

25:50I think people fall in line. I think it's almost human instinct to fall in line. And when you know who's got your back, you kind of fall in line with it. And if the pharmaceutical companies are supporting 25 % of your ads or 30, whatever the fuck it is, you fall in line with it. You fall in line with the narratives of the networks you're with. If you write for the Washington Post, you probably fall in line. And when you start to ruffle feathers, your articles don't get posted. And then you realize, oh, shit, if I want my articles to get posted, I got to write like this. My kids in private school and I want to build a pool.

26:19And now there's this incentive structure of this built in without anybody fucking telling you what to do. Exactly. So it's this, it's not as like nefarious as people assume it is when you hear about like the deep state and who these people telling you, it's an incentive structure built in and human beings want to survive. And we start kind of doing the things that will help us survive. And it's all implied. You know what you're supposed to say and not supposed to say. It's the Clinton speaking fee. Like no one wants to hear Hillary Clinton speak. Exactly. Nobody ever has wanted to hear her speak, but she's getting 400 grand from Goldman Sachs.

26:49Exactly. After she's, you know, what was the secretary state? So it's like, but Goldman Sachs doesn't need to say, hey, by the way, you're going to get speaking fees. She knows it. Exactly. They all fucking know it. Well, that was why during the Trump debates with Clinton, he was like, release the transcripts of those speeches. Oh, I love it. Yeah, I'll release my taxes. You release the transcripts. Yeah. And what is the transcript? Hey, guys, do we really need to be here? Or can I go home? You know what I want. I want you guys to make money. Yeah. But so let's give it a roll. So that's the, that's the whatever the deep state, if you will.

27:22It's not, it's not six people. Well, that's the, that is like the people that are in your crew that start acting entitled when they're around you. Wait, what was the people? The, the Hillary Clinton's? The Hillary Clinton's are the people that are like, maybe disrespectful to the servers and you find out about. They sent food back. They talk, it's not, it's not the main guy. It's the support staff. So you're saying the main people are not the presidents. Right. The main people that are running Raytheon, the people that are running these gigantic companies that make weapons. Dude, that, I didn't even, that's for the real money.

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31:00But we're paying us. But you can't really sell some money goes over there too. But that fraction enough billions and that that money is like, where to go? Yeah, dudes are doing coke and driving around a Rolls Royces and I saw that. The guy bought the, yeah, what was it? The assistant. It was the, it wasn't the vice president, but it was some like government figure. You're bought like some insane car and it's like, why are you buying insane cars when you're in the middle of a world? How do you have the money? Yeah, there might be some rations you might want to buy. Okay, so, so okay. So there's the system.

31:30I think Vivi called it like the managerial class or something like that, which I thought was a good term. But okay, the money is going to these different industries first. So it's kind of staying in America, which does, I guess, boost our economy in some way. Like those people need to hire people. The economy starts to do. That's the good way to look at it. No, but I mean, no, for real, like it's like they have to hire people. They have to pay people. Like, and that's why war is good for the economy. And if the economy is built on this military industrial complex or whatever it is, we constantly need conflict to an order in order to continue the positive momentum of the economy.

32:07Yes. But they can't say that. They can't go, hey, we need war in order for the economy to be good. They're not thinking about the economy. They're thinking about the money that they are specifically going to make from these transactions. They're not thinking about, oh, we're going to do this good for the economy. They're thinking, this is an opportunity to get a massive contract. They're in the business of constantly making more money. When you're in a corporation, especially a publicly traded corporation, you have an obligation to your shareholders to make more money. You have a board. You have people that have dumped $100 million into the company.

32:37And they're staring at you. Like, what are we doing to maximize profits? And just like if you're working for CNN, you know, if someone starts saying that the vaccines might be killing kids, you got to step in and go, there's no evidence for this. You got to cover. You're covering for this. Everyone's covering. And if you're the head of a corporation, it's your job to get these contracts. It's a sociopathic sort of a situation. No one's looking at it. Like, what is the big picture? Does this really need to be how? Isn't there some sort of a diplomatic approach that can remain? What were the factors that led us to get into the situation in the first place?

33:15What's going on with NATO? Why are they moving weapons closer and closer to Russia's border? Maybe there's a diplomatic solution that could stop the death of hundreds of thousands of innocent people. But no, no, make that chatter. Let's go. Let's go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then attach it to different bills, right? Like, attach it to the border bill. Yeah, yeah. Why the fuck is that? Attached to the education bill. And then randomly, it's only going to educate. We got to educate those Russians about the fucking bombs. That's far to education bill. They got to know about a Tomahawk missile bitch.

33:50Yeah. Yeah. So how do you, how do you stop that? Money. And the problem is it's already been embedded, right? It's like trying to tell the mob you can't make money anymore. Like you have to do some radical things to get the mob out of businesses, right? And that's what they had to do with Giuliani in New York with the John Gotti and the families and locking everybody up. Like you can't just say, hey, guys, stop doing that. That's what they do. It's what they do. That's what they did with Iraq. That's what they did with Afghanistan. It's with Vietnam. Yeah. They do it with everything. Yeah. That's what Eisenhower warned the American people about when he even leaving office.

34:28Yeah. Which is one of the craziest videos in human history where he's saying the military industrial complex wants to go to war. There's a machine that wants to go to war and you have to be very careful. What is the history of this? So what World War II, the whole country turns into a war machine. Is that essentially and which was beneficial for us? Sure. Great for the economy. Great for a lot of things. Great to United States. Freedom. Great for not speaking for a German for the rest of our existence. But and by it turns into a war machine like four just starts making tanks. Like everybody shifts their goal, right?

35:05Is that essentially what happens when? Well, a lot of people definitely shift their, I mean, Ford obviously can't make cars, but like a lot of people do shift their their businesses. But I think Ford also started making military vehicles. Did they make sense? That was my understanding is that like every business start to prioritize the war effort. Right. Definitely. Not overnight, but pretty quickly the whole country had one singular focus, which was if we need to go to war, we can turn it over. It's like, I think that's what Napoleon did actually. That was one of how he was so effective. He turned the whole country into a war machine.

35:34Whereas before it was like, wait, I thought we're just lining up in the field and banging back and forth against each other. He's like, man, you're fighting the whole country. So then when we get to turn over and flip and Ford starts making vehicles or whatever the fucking needs for the military effort, we have a huge competitive advantage. The money that comes in through that and fact check me on this, please. But like the money that starts to be generated by that is very hard to relinquish when the war is done. Right. The war stops and then people go, whoa, whoa, we were making a hundred million a year during war.

36:01I don't want to go back to 20 million. So we need more wars. Is that the idea? Yeah. That's definitely a part of the idea. It's also connected to a lot of other things too that you wouldn't think about. Like subsidizing food. So subsidizing farmers. So like, can you hear about corn subsidies? Yeah. We have corn subsidies. That's why there's corn syrup and everything. Yeah. We picked a corn that could feed 300 million people and it just happened to be corn. Well, what happened was during World War II, they started to subsidize farmers. So they would have a surplus. In case another war breaks out, they always have food storage.

36:35They have the ability to feed the country even if we're cut off from the rest of the world. And when you're depended upon foreign countries for different things like grains and medicines and that's one of the things we found out during COVID, right? A lot of medicine is made in China. And a lot of it was very hard to come by during COVID because of the transportation issues. Isn't that one of the issues with Ukraine? I'm sure. It's not with medicine, but with actual grain. Like it's one of the largest grain producers in the world. Right. So I think there even had to be like an agreement between Russia and Ukraine to continue sending out grain during the conflict.

37:13Wild. Wild. The rules of war are so wild. Dude, when someone says it's a war crime, you know, like who decides the level? You can only kill people in certain ways. Like one of the wildest ones was also during World War One. It's a guy named Fritz Haber. And Fritz Haber, he created the Haber method of extracting nitrogen from the atmosphere. That's responsible for some crazy number today. This method is responsible for something about, see if this is true. I think it's something around 50 % of the nitrogen in human bodies today exists because of the Haber method. So 50 % of the nitrogen from your food is been extracted from the atmosphere by the Haber method in order to provide fertilizer for plants that we use, especially when you're talking about industrialized fertilizer and commercial grade fertilizer, they have to spray it because the topsoils are dead for a lot of these modern industrial monocrop agriculture establishments.

38:17So Fritz Haber creates this, but he also creates Zeichlann A. He created this gas that they were using, he used the gas, they turned it to Zeichlann B, they took the smell out of it so they could kill the Jews with it. And he also used the gas when they were gasing allied troops in World War One. This was the first time that that had been done. It's kind of a war fair. Massive fans and gas and they would blow it onto these soldiers and kill them all. So he was both being recommended for the Nobel Prize and being a war criminal at the same time who's wanted for crimes against humanity. At the same time he created the Haber method.

39:04What's the matter Jamie? Nearly 50 % of the nitrogen found in human tissues originated from the Haber Bosch process. Thus Haber process serves as the detonator of the population explosion enabling the global population to increase from 1 .6 billion in 1900 to 7 .7 billion by 2018. Reverse fuel technology converts electrical energy water and air into ammonia without a separate hydrogen electrolysis process. So this is his, he was a legitimate genius. And his story is so fucking tragic. When he was leaving to go to the front lines to war to use his gas, it was so controversial. His wife committed suicide in front of shot herself in the heart and he left her to go to the front line while she was still alive.

39:52He left her with his 13 year old son to take care of her while she tried to, she eventually died. But I mean, he was, his whole life became, did he feel remorse for this? I don't know. I don't know. But eventually during World War II, he was a Jew and he saw all of his other Jewish friends that were scientists get pushed out and arrested and all these different things that happened to him and he wound up fleeing and he died while he was fleeing. I think he died a heart failure. He's probably just racked with stress. I mean, the guy is, this whole life, I mean, what did you do? What did you do?

40:31You created this amazing thing that allows nitrogen to get into the soil and it gives feed millions of people, stop starvation for millions of people. And you also created the gas that's killing your own people in concentration camps and you also created war crimes by being the first government, the first army to spray chemicals at the troops that just kills everybody indiscriminately. Men, women, children, anybody downwind dead. So then who decides, like when is there the conversation where all the countries unanimously agree on what are war crimes and what are not? Like you can kill someone with a bullet, that's okay.

41:10Right? As long as they are not an innocent civilian. Yeah, but then what about metadata, right? What is that? Do you know how they target some people with bombs? Okay, so let's say you're a terrorist and let's say you're hanging out in this building and the government knows where you are because they have your cell phone. So they have the metadata of yourself. So they know your cell phone is in this room. Shhh, boom. Game over. Everybody dead. Everybody dead. Not just you, not just me, not just Jamie, security staff. This is the drone straight the way. The next door. Yeah, that's what they do.

41:51So you know what the percentages of innocent people that die in drone strikes? 99. We don't know really because here's the problem. Then this has to be like, we have to be kind of honest about this. Like they lie too. Right. Like they'll say, I'm a bad guy. Right. They'll say, oh, you killed 30 children and they'll take photos. And so you're getting some of the information as far as the data. They never go good shot. Right. Yeah. So we don't know the exact numbers. There's estimated numbers, but for sure it's not more bad guys. Yeah. For sure it's more innocence than it is bad guys. And the high estimates are in like the 80 and 90 percent of innocent civilians that die in drone strikes.

42:32And what is the justification for this? This is a bad guy over there. We got to get that bad guy. And it's in another country. So when it's in another country, you can kind of get away with some shit. But also I imagine the justification is like that one bad guy could have killed hundreds of thousands of other good guys. That's their steel man argument for it. I imagine. Because they also have to have a justification. It can't happen without them going, hey, we've thought about this. Exactly. And then imagine the person that you need to pull the trigger on that or push the button, right? Like the constitution that they have to have.

43:01Yeah. That's a lot of guilt. This goes back to the sociopathy. Well, they have massive PTSD. Yeah. Yeah. Those people that run, they say it's a unique form of PTSD because they weren't really there. Right. They're behind a fucking video console. They're moving in Xbox controller. Do you have, have, have presidents ever said that? Like, have, like, did Lincoln write anything about the death toll during the Civil War? That's a good question. Like I wonder if even modern day, like does Obama talk about it? The people that died, the bushes, like, I think you can't. George Bush has handled Iraq better than anybody in history.

43:38He's been paint. He's been paint dogs. He's been a little fucking Los Angeles to Michelle. Yeah. There's nothing that's going on. Yeah. And maybe you need somebody that's kind of not going on up there to do it. Well, I don't think it's a coincidence that they made movies about Dick Cheney afterwards. They made him out to be the monster. Is that, like, I feel like that's taking all accountability away from the guy who was in charge. Like, it's very easy to be like, yeah, it was just him. This guy's got a coastline too and that's the job. Yeah. If you're the head coach of the team and the assistant coach is making all the bad decisions, we still blame the head coach, right?

44:11He's also the son of a great man. And when your dad is Herbert Walker Bush, who was the head of the CIA and you know, you are second fiddle. You're good at taking directions. And that's why you'd make a good president. You're a good handsome man. We're going to smoke him out of their holes. You look like a president. And then let's let it all dick, take things behind the scenes. And just look at the evidence of what they did, right? Yeah. One of the things that they gave Haliburton no bid contracts for fucking bobo bobo bobo who owns a dollar to rebuild their rack. How wild is this that the guy was the vice president?

44:47What's on the board of the... He was like the fucking, he was the head of Haliburton. Was he getting a piece during his vice presidency? Yes. Yeah, that seems like a conflict of interest. He is blowing his places up. He's blowing these places up. It's like their decisions that are causing these places to get blown up. If I'm in the heart of these billboards, did Cheney resume's role as chairman of Haliburton company? Oh, he's back. Wow. Maybe old man. When is this? This is after he left office? I'm out of 2000. So yeah, this was actually before, right? Well, no, this was during the Bush administration, right?

45:23Effective today, 2000. He became president right around then. He resumed his role while he was vice president? No, that's... I don't... I thought I missed red what was happening here because this head favorite... But it says I clicked that first here because it's... Right. Cheney will succeed, Bill Bradford. Click it again. But then it's like an old man's role. Okay, Dick Cheney resumes role. This is a new article, it says. So look at it says, Dick Cheney has resume role of chairman of board of Haliburton effective today, February 1st, 2000. Yes. Well, also continue. That's weird that it just came out.

45:57Weird continuing his current... Also continuing his current position as chief executive officer of the company, joining Haliburton. So this was right before the election. I think this is the announcement when... Yeah, I think I got confused. But February 1st, 2000 means he's already in office, correct? Or is it 2001? It would be 2001. It's January 2001. The Bush goes into office, right? Election was 2000, yeah. So this is 11 months earlier. So is he even named as vice president yet? No. Is he running with him at that time? He came vice president January 20th, almost one year later. Right, but I'm saying is he named as vice president during the...

46:33As a running mate. I'm checking when they... Right, because that's generally a little later. Once someone wins the primaries, they announce there's VP. Yeah, but if you're not actually president, you can hold another position or vice president. If you're not actually in government, you can up to that. I would like to meet Chief W. Yes, so this is... You'd like to meet him? Yeah, I would just meet him. I would just talk to him. About? I wouldn't want to dig. I would just talk to him. I just want to find out what makes him tick. What do you think? Haliburton reportedly reached the agreement on July 20th to allow Cheney to retire with the package of the estimated 20 million.

47:05Let's go, dick. I mean, pulled it off, man. Do you ever wish you didn't know all this stuff? Yes. The ignorance is bliss. Yes. I feel a tremendous weight of the amount of people to pay attention to this shit I say. It's a tremendous weight. So you feel like there's some things that are like, I would rather just be a hasty. Yeah. Just fucking hanging out on my farm and Kansas shooting deer with both of them. Well, that's what I was going to ask. Like, when you're out shooting deer. That's my favorite time that I'm disconnected. I don't have cell phone service. I don't have shit. You're not thinking about the deep state.

47:42No, man. I'm thinking about mountain lions and I'm thinking about bugling elk. Yeah. I'm thinking how my cardio is. I get enough electrolytes in me this morning. Make sure my protein take is right. Yeah. You know, I'm going eight fucking miles a day in the mile. You like hard shit. That's something I've noticed about you. And I think it's a really important thing to, it's an important quality to have as you achieve more success because with success, life can get easier. So if you're not addicted to difficulty in like hard situations, it's easy to just kind of fall into the comfort of nothing. Because there was a guy who had on the podcast Russ who's just, who's awesome artist.

48:28But he was like, yeah, once you get money, like things become easy and then anything that's not easy, you get very anxious about and fearful of. So you like hard things. You admire David Goggins because he's doing hard shit all the time. I think a lot of times people don't like hard things. And then when they get success, hard things make them anxious and they stop doing hard things and hard things are what make us successful. Uh huh. When we have nothing, we have to do hard things. Yes. We have to go up in front of crowds. It might not be good. We have to go run fucking really hard. We have to work out really hard, whatever it is.

49:02And I wonder if that's when like kids who grow up with very wealthy parents are not used to hard things and they don't really have to do anything hard. Right. And if they don't have that as like a core value to them that doing hard things is good. Of course, they're going to be anxious about everything. Of course, they're going to use drugs. Of course, they're going to be bored out of their fucking mind. So it's one of those things that like, I don't know, as I've gotten potentially more comfortable life. I like have to like force myself to do things I'm afraid of. Mm hmm. Or I do think that I would just kind of get weak and fall apart.

49:32Comfort is a warm and enticing poison. Yep. And it's a slow poison. Yep. You can take a little bit of it on the couch just relaxing. And it is a little of it. It's nice. Mm hmm. But don't let that get into your veins because it'll make the rest of your life harder. Because you're going to encounter hard things. And if the hard thing that you don't voluntarily subscribe to, the hard thing that you don't force yourself into isn't harder than the other things in life. You're going to have a hard time managing. Yeah. And it's voluntary. It has to be voluntary. You have to choose it. You have to have discipline.

50:04There's a, I think characters like cardio. I think you have to keep it up. Yep. I do. I really do. You take a few weeks off of cardio. I like. I think that's the same with character. And I think it's the same with doing difficult things and also self assessing honestly. Knowing where you fucked up. Yeah. There's moments that you have. I'm sure in your life where you look back, you might have been 10 years ago. You like, fuck, why did I say that to that dude? Yes, dude. I didn't need to say that. I shouldn't have said that. God, I was just a wrong place, wrong time, wrong headspace. Why did I do that?

50:37I was drunk. Why did I say that? Why did I do that? You know, those things, you should know those too. You don't absolve yourself of those things. Yeah. Know those things are real and just always constantly strive to do better. The problem is when people fuck up. They think of themselves as that fuck up. And that's a difficult thing for someone with a bad pass like dudes have been in jail. It's really difficult for them. That becomes their identity. It becomes a part of who you recognize. That's a part of your behavior characteristics. You don't think of yourself as the best you when you made the right decision when your friend calls you and you you could tell him, I'm busy, bro.

51:14I can't help you. I could put that shit aside. Go help my boy and go help your friend. And then you show up for him. It's like, dude, you hear from me. Thank you so much. Appreciate it so much, man. And your help at him, fix his tire or move or whatever the fuck it is. Those moments, man, like you night human beings, they're like very, very important moments. And that's what everybody should strive for. You should strive for the moments when you worked really hard at something and you accomplished it. When you didn't want to get through a workout, but you did it. When you finished the marathon, when you, when you apologized for, for being out of line, when you told people how you feel about them, even though it felt vulnerable.

51:50But yeah, I love you so much. You inspire me. You're an amazing human being and I'm so, I'm so happy you're in my life. That's what we all should be aspiring towards. Inspiring to be better versions of ourselves. And in aspiring to put ourselves in situations that we fear, like everything you want is on the other side of what you fear. There's somebody said that. And I really believe it though, like every situation I put myself in that I'm scared of or anxious about, that I, and even if it doesn't work out perfectly, I do feel this confidence boost that I at least tried. Yeah. You know what I mean?

52:23I at least fucking tried. I was scared of doing it and I fucking tried. And then if it works out, it's the best feeling in the world. Yeah, I think that's the worst. Yeah, that's the worst feeling. It is the fucking worst feeling. The worst feeling. But that's the importance of like, I don't know, like the nice thing about stand up, I guess, is that like we know that we can't take months off. Right. It atrophies fast. Fast weeks off. Yeah. It's like we have to go up. We have to constantly go up. And yeah, there are things in life that are a million times more difficult than people have to do. But it is one of those things that's built into the thing that we kind of love, which is we have to keep doing this.

53:02And every time we try something new, it's bad. Yeah, but we're also addicted to that accomplishment vibe, that accomplishment energy. Like when you get that feeling is amazing feeling of fuck, I did it. I also like the chaos of it. I like it when there's like, I was hanging on the beach with my wife on something and like, I'm really bad with vacations if I don't have things to do during it. I can't just hang on the beach. Yeah. I cannot do it. If I'm surfing, I can do it. Or if I'm playing paddle, I can do it. But I need to do shit. Right. Give me something to do. Right. And my wife knows I don't care if we're looking at the Coliseum, I'm learning, I'm asking the fucking towards the questions.

53:38I need to do a thing. Yeah. Because if I'm not, my brain goes fucking crazy. It needs to be occupied. Yeah. I'm lucky that I have that. Uh -huh. Imagine I was really comfy doing nothing. Yeah. Why would I do anything? It's a superpower. It's, but it has to be managed. It's like having a Ferrari engine. You know, if you have a Ferrari engine, you know, in a fucking Toyota Corolla. Yeah. Like that shit doesn't have the tires for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It doesn't have to be burned out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're in a tree. Yeah. You know, you have to learn how to manage that kind of a mind. And you've built up a suspension and wide tires and strong carbon fiber ceramic breaks.

54:19It's like you've got to have all those things. So is that what you're constantly doing? Are you constantly looking for more shit you're afraid of in your life? Well, difficult things. I like difficult things. I like, that's how I cold plunging. I like it because it's hard. People, I hate it. I hate it. I fucking like it. Yeah. I don't like it. Yeah. Every time I'm about to do it, there's this little bitch -ass part of my brain. It's like, don't do this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm gonna do this. And the other part of my brain is that I've built up over the years like shut up pussy. I'm the boss.

54:47So it's building the discipline. It's not even like, okay, yeah, there are great, what is it? Not side effects. What are there? Great main effects come of inflammation goes down. Yeah. It's more about building the fucking discipline to do the shit you don't want to do. Yeah, but also because it's good for you. If it was bad for me, if I didn't want to do it, and every time I did it, it was killing me a little bit. I wouldn't do it. But I do it because I know it's good for you. And I know you feel great when you get out of it. But Goggins, I'm sure running all those fucking miles like his joints are destroyed, his feet are fucked up.

55:16Yeah, there's a certain point of diminishing returns. Yes. But. But also you have to have the outlier. Which is. You have to have the dude that's pure mind. That's all just on the drive. And that's Goggins. You have to have the guy. So he's the extreme version of discipline. He's uncommon amongst uncommon men. And he looks at all the psychos out there. He's king psycho. So it's not that he runs long. It's that he will do the thing despite that little voice inside him saying you don't want to do this. And he'll tell you he has that voice. He goes, I stare my sneakers sometimes for 30 minutes for I put those motherfuckers on.

55:51Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He'll tell you, but he always wins. It's like dude, when I'm taking the lead off that cold plunge, as I'm taking it off, they're like, you don't do it. I'm like, shut the fuck up. You got three more episodes of show gun. I set my watch. And I climb right in. Yeah. Yeah. And because I get through it every day, I start the day off with a win. I won. I beat the inner bitch. Yeah. I conquered the inner bitch. I got in there. And then I do the workout. That's that's win number two. Yeah. You know, so by the time the day is over, I've done shit that most people never do. What do you feel when you're on vacation?

56:31Do you feel like a crazy person? Do you feel like a wolf on a fucking and full of bull toy in the ocean? Yeah. Just going, what am I doing on this fucking thing? Is your wife going, hey, you need a chill? I know how to do it now. First fall. Every day starts out with a workout. You do it so fucking fast. I told you I was like, listen, we can go to these places. The first three hours of the day, I'm doing what I need to do. Once I comment all down, let's fucking drink whatever on the beat. I don't care. Yeah. But the first three, I need to do what I need to do. I need breaks. Breaks are good, but I don't really need a vacation.

57:09Because my life is awesome. Yeah. I love it. I love, I've cultivated a wonderful life. I love my family. I love my friends. I love my jobs. Yeah. So I'm happy. Yeah. I'm a happy dude with what I do. So when I go on vacation, it's like, okay, I just want to just have fun with the family. Yeah. I have to do something about this thing. And your family knows this bitch. Yes, they know me. What are your kids? Are they like, okay, he just needs to work out. They get it. They get it too? Yeah, yeah, they both have it. Really? They both have some psycho drive. One of them for art, the other one is gymnastics.

57:43And when you see it manifested, like for example, do you see them looking like the wolf when you guys are on vacation? Do you see them kind of pacing around? They have to do things. You have to get them busy. I got a conversation with my middle daughter at one point in time. She was like, when we first moved here, she was real anxious. And I go, you're a racehorse. You got to get back to racing. You got to get back to competing again. And as soon as she went back to that, everything was fine. She just was like, you know, didn't know we're in a new place, making new friends. But there's like physical anxiety that comes with being a human being.

58:16That I think activity diminishes. And you need something like that. You need the hardest thing of your day to be something that you choose. You know, it might not be. Obviously circumstances are random and you could have a terrible thing happen to you. But if you've built up your understanding of how to get through difficult things, it'll serve you in everything you do. And if you do it voluntarily, then you've gained control over your mental process. You want us in? So with the kids, do you, is this something you instill in them? Or is this a little too much? You got to be real loose handed. You got to let them be their own thing.

58:56They're their own little people. It's very fascinating. Are you rewarding and lighting the fire once you see that they're really drawn to something? Oh, for sure. So you wait for them to choose and then you lean the fucking. Yeah, well, you just praise is very important for kids. It means a lot. It could really motivate them to excel to higher and higher levels. Was that easy for you to give them the positive encouragement? Oh, it's so easy. Yeah, my youngest is an insane artist, dude. Let me say. I'm going to show you this. She's 13. Oh, wow. Dude, she was doing crazy, crazy work when she was six.

59:37I showed one of her things to David Cho when she was like six or seven. He was like, holy fuck, man. I did. She's crazy talented. Jesus. Yeah. And she'll do she? She's 13. She'll sit and she'll she'll draw for hours and hours, man. Just completely locked in and focused. And you know, when I was young, I wanted to be a comic book illustrator. So I was an artist when I was young, but I wasn't as good as her. I wasn't as good. I don't think I'm as good as her now. She's 13. Do you? It's crazy. Do you find yourself competing with them at all? No. No, no, no, unless we're playing games. That's what I'm saying.

1:00:13Yeah, I'm going to win. You okay? Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm trying to win. Okay, you won't give them a you won't give them nothing. No, no. Interesting. No. Does it drive them crazy when they lose? No, they win. They win a lot, man. Okay. Okay. I think we did virtual reality. And my 13 year old beat me at this sword fighting game. And she fucking loved it. She killed me. And it's like one of these, you know what sandboxes? You know, do sandbox? Oh, this is the, uh, the dopest. Sandbox, you're in a warehouse. Okay. I love it. You have a haptic feedback vest. My favorite one is the zombie one. But we can beat the zombie one too.

1:00:48It's, but this is a console that you're wearing like a VR gun. You go to a place. It's called sandbox VR. Okay. It's a big warehouse. Okay. And inside these warehouses, they have these spaces that are a little larger than this room. Okay. Okay. And in the space, they give you a virtual reality headset. They give you a haptic feedback. So you can feel, you feel like, like you're getting hit or you're getting grabbed by zombies. And then they give you a gun. You have a plastic gun. Okay. And then you see yourself in vert, you see everybody. Everybody's like tactical ops outfits on and ship with helmets.

1:01:20And you're like, woo, you high five, you dance, you see each other dressed as these characters. And then, you know, it's basically mapped out to the size of your body. And I put you in these things. So, and then like they drop you off in Deadwood Mansion. And Deadwood Mansion is this haunted house. And there's like crazy scientists who've developed zombies. And the zombie's starting to vading the house. Okay. And you're just gunning them down. And we always compete to see who kills the most zombies. But I have a lot of gun experience. I fucked those gun zombies up, man. I at one point in time had number three in the country.

1:01:54Other number three score in the country. Yeah, bro. I went in. Oh, this is it. So this is it. So, let me just give you a pro tip. If you want this, if you want this game, get the shotgun. Shotgun, face shots. You want face shots on zombies. Yeah. Don't be fucking around with the legs. See, the machine guns are fun and everything like that. And you reload by just going like this. Yeah, yeah. Just point the gun down and it reloads. Bro, it's so fun. I'm so addicted to this game that you're in this house. And it's all like dark and shadowy and shit. And the light from your pistols with lighting these zombies.

1:02:28Yeah. Bro, it's so much fun. Oh, this is it. But, uh, but yeah, I always try to win. So you try to kill the most zombies. So at the end of the day, you get the VIP. What is the VIP? The VIP is the most valuable player. The MVP. Yeah. It's VIP though. Very important player. Okay. Or MV. I don't know if they say MVP. But anyway, I always win that shit. Yeah. Oh, I'm not going to anybody. I think cannot go away. But as long as it's like you're just understanding that everyone's just trying their best. Yeah. So when they beat you, like, oh my god, they beat me at a game. You're like, god, don't. Yeah.

1:03:03They love it. They love it. Like, you got me. Yeah. But it's fun when they win. It's fun when they beat you. It's your child that's doing something really good. How old are they? You know, 13 and 15, the youngest ones. Okay. And when they were, are there moments that you... How old is your kid now? Eight weeks. Wow. So yeah, I'm like, everybody I talk to goes, it goes by really fast. That's the first thing they all say when I say things. And what are the moments in this stretch that you wish that you kind of held on to longer? Or you didn't realize how amazing they were until they were gone? I don't really think like that.

1:03:37Nothing. Okay. I don't think like that. I'm happy. Yeah. You know, and I'm happy they're healthy and I'm happy they're... You know, look, I have friends that have kids that have real problems, real health problems. This episode is brought to you by Visible. Is your wireless full of stuff you didn't sign up for, don't need, or don't understand? Visible gives you everything you want from wireless and nothing you don't. No confusing plans, no hidden fees, no nonsense. With Visible, you just get unlimited everything, unlimited data, talk, text, and hotspot. All powered by Verizon's 5G network. Plus, they're an all digital wireless service.

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1:06:36That's all fucked up. Number one was healthy. Everybody was like, don't you want a boy? I want healthy kids. I don't care if it's a girl or a boy. I genuinely didn't care. I just want him to be happy and healthy. Well, you don't like girls. Like what are you saying? Yeah, yeah. You only want boys. Yeah, yeah. Plus, if I had boys, it would come with the added responsibility of training a psycho. Yeah. Because I'm assuming they're going to be like a little me. And like, if I didn't find martial arts, I would have been a real problem. What do you mean? If I didn't find some outlet, some competitive, like dangerous outlet to test me as a man, I was an angry kid, man.

1:07:16Well, it's not good to grow up a boy and be an angry boy and not have an outlet. Why? Because you just, you don't want to have control of it. But why do you think you were angry? I think a lot of it is genetic. Really? Yeah, there's a lot of, there's a, I think a lot of people like what's inside of them is genetic. It's learned experience. It's being around violence when I was young. There's, there's quite a few things that I think are attached to it. But I think there's some part of it's genetic. There's some part of drive, I think, that's genetic too, which is interesting when you see your kids have it.

1:07:48Yeah, I've talked to friends about that who have multiple kids and they can see it in some and others. They just don't really see it. Out of the box, they're different. Like my 15 year old is like hyper focused on things, hyper focused on athletics, hyper folks. But also very loved. Like doesn't have this desired approver stuff like I had. I was like, I'm not a loser. I'm going to show everybody that I'm not a loser. That was like my drive as a kid. And martial arts was the first thing that I ever did where I was like, hey, I'm not a loser. But it's also the most humbling thing. Oh, the most humbling.

1:08:24Yeah, the most humbling. But I got it quick. I was still, I was very lucky. But there's only someone better. I don't know, like, but I got lucky that I was going into it at the right time. I had some athletic experience, like I had done, I had wrestled, I had done baseball. I had played some sports. I wasn't like totally inept. I was a when I played baseball, well, I was so selfish, I would never try to get on first. You want to be a home run or a strike out, and they would always tell me just get on base. But I'd get up there, I don't give a fuck what you just said. When that ball's coming, I'm either going to be a loser or a hero.

1:09:00Let's go, 100%, I never did not try to hit a home run. And they would always be mad at me. because I could hit home runs, but I could also strike out. Yeah. I was struck out a lot, but if I connected, I had to fucking crank. Yeah. I sent that ball flying and I loved it. I loved watching that ball fly over the fence. Like, yeah, I am never not going to do that. Like, if you tell me, like, just but suck my dick. I'm not bonding. I don't give a fuck if we lose. I don't care. That's why you can't do the team sports. That's why it has to be the one of one. Yeah. I'm not interested. We lost because Billy dropped the ball.

1:09:35You don't fuck yourself. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I know what I can do. Interesting. It's my time at bat. I'm in home runs. Interesting. So when I found that there was martial arts, it was something that's, yeah, just me and only. It's just me. And I can get better based entirely on how much effort I put into it. Then I just became obsessed. But you still love the camaraderie. I love the camaraderie. But you learn from the other people that are also doing the thing. I wasn't competitive with them where I had to be better than them. I wanted to be better than the people I was competing against. And they helped me to get better because these are who these are the people I train with.

1:10:11Yeah, those are family. I'm still very good friends with one of my guys that I train with back then. Really? I talked to them all the time. Yeah, I've known him since I was 52 guys, two of those guys. I'm known him since I was 15 years old. One of them is just out here to visit. It's funny that you see it even in martial arts. You know, when a guy wins, the first thing he does is often compliment his coaches and it's 100 % that you're everything. We need that. We need that shared. Yes. I've always got that in team sports. I love that. Like a team win, like me and four other guys playing basketball when we're not as talented as the other team.

1:10:41And you win. But we win. Yes. Just going out for beers afterwards, talking about our, I mean, we're old fucking guys. But that's more of a cooperative thing than being at bat. That's right about being at bat. There is like, uh -uh. This is just me. Yeah. Like I'm not passing them. You pass the ball over to you and you're open and you can get a clean shot. I would 100 % do that. The ball's playing team sports. Yeah. I wouldn't be greedy like that. Yeah. But baseball. Yeah, you going for it. It's just me. Yeah, you go for it. The ball's coming. Let's go. I'm sending this mission in the war. We only need a single drop bit.

1:11:14Yeah. Yeah. Cause they would always get mad at me. Yeah. Like this one coach, it was like very strategic. Who was trying to win. Yeah. And he knew that if he put me up there, I was cranking that ball. Yeah. But that is, yeah, I just wasn't designed for baseball. But that's you in life, though. Right. Yeah. But if I could figure out something where I would be 100 % of my own, you know, when I got in there, like fighting, it's 100 % just you or comedy. You built this team. You built all these friends, this community, but when you're on stage, it's just, it has to be you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1:11:48But those people also help you get better. Like when I'm doing shows and Shane Gillis is on the show and Ron White and Brian Simpson. Yeah. You put strong eyes on that. Yeah. And I would go on stage an hour and a half into that. Do you have funny as Derek, man? Derek is so good. Derek has grown so much and being at the club, like he's doing so many sets. Yeah. He's just, he's going little boy fat man. He's going back and forth to the room. He's doing all these sets on the road with you. Yeah. And he's doing a true like team guy. Like he comes from sports in that way. Like he's like, he wants the show to be great.

1:12:21Yeah. He wants to, I mean, he's a great human being. He's a fucking great. He's a gem of a human being and a happy, sweet heart of a guy. Everybody loves him. He's so grateful for you, man. And just a grateful love and the experience like, and seeing him. But he was one of the first guys to take a chance. I know. I come out here. Yeah. You know, I was like, I'm with you Joe. Yeah. I'm like, all right. And he is like, if he says that, he means that shit. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And watching him grow, dude, like, but he knew also what I told them I was going to do it. I'm like, we're going to do this. Yeah.

1:12:47We're going to do this. It's going to be the greatest cup in the world. Yeah. Which is crazy thing to say to pop up a scene in the middle of Texas. Yeah. But we did it. It's insane. But we did it because the guys like Derek and guys like a son and Brian Simpson and Tony Hinchlev. Those guys who moved here early, Thompson Gerr, moved here early when he says I'm in. When Thompson Gerr said I was in like early on, I was like, oh, shit, this is happening. Yeah. Because Tom did it early in the pandemic. I started. I bought this house. I sent him a video from my back. I go, boy, what are you doing? What are you doing?

1:13:18Get the fuck out of there. Get the fuck out of the way. It's on fire. I go, no one here has a mask on. I go, I think this is bullshit. Come down. Let's have a good time. Let's hang out. Yeah. And Tom was like, I'm in. He came out early. That means a lot to you, I feel. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was a crazy chance. I was asking people to take. Yeah. It wasn't just, I'm going to open up a club in Pasadena. It wasn't like I bought the ice house. Or a while, yeah. I do a Jerry Busbottet, right? Yeah. All over the Lakers or whatever. And they redid it, and I'm super happy that they did that because it's an amazing club.

1:13:50And I love that place. But at one point in time, I was thinking about buying the, the ice house. I remember you telling me that. I was like, maybe I just buy that place. But if I ask guys to come to the ice house, that's easy. Yeah. There's no, there's no. That's a 20 -minute drive. No sacrifice. This is not coming in. You stay in your same house. Yeah. It had to be all those factors happening at the same time. It had to be COVID. It had to be this weird way that they were governing these cities and that they weren't doing it in other parts of the country particularly Florida and here Yeah, and also that you couldn't do stand up you couldn't do any stand up in LA They were stopping outside stand up at the park and the comedy store in the parking lot Yeah, they wouldn't let them do comedy outside.

1:14:28Yeah, it didn't make any sense It was all crazy and it was going on forever and we were out here doing shows and we were putting it up on Instagram And I was like this is what the fuck is happening? Yeah, these motherfuckers are doing shows Yeah, you know, and we first started doing live shows indoors in November of 2020 and it felt so wrong. Yeah, what are we doing? I Did one weekend out here in July of 2020 and I decided after it that I couldn't do it anymore I didn't get sick, but I was like, but what if I did and what if I gave it to someone and what if that person died? Like what if I gave it to a guest you felt a responsibility?

1:15:03I was terrified Yeah, because I feel like I would I would never forgive myself if I had some wonderful sweet Scientist as a guest and I gave that person COVID and they wound up dying Yeah, because I was so selfish that I had to go on the road and do stand up. This is the empathy thing Yeah, so I can't do that. You're not sociopath. Well, it's also just you're not good for the CIA Joe a terrible for the CIA I'll be terrible. I would good if you get me in that UFO program though. I'll keep my mouth shut Probably what is it get me in the UFO show me what you got? What you got I won't tell anybody do you think they got I'll be a disinformation agent for you You just want to know I will say whatever you need What if they say to you Joe you can take the UFO for a spin, but don't floor it You can punt in the UFO I would listen because I don't want to turn to jelly If you're going faster than what if they said there's no way that you can die in this machine It's built in a way where you cannot die, but we're asking you to punt.

1:16:03I would but you'd have to butt You have to come back to come back to the ground you got to land that thing. They're gonna kill you I fair enough. They get a fucking put you on an airplane So it was what a fucking Putin's boys Blow up over the a geodic sea Listen man. No. Yeah. Yeah, you gotta look if they get you in the UFO First of all, I wouldn't ask to pilot it. I just like you just want to take it first bit show me what the fuck this thing does Where did you come from where to come from and then and then and then and then I say okay? So what do I tell them China? Whatever it chite eats man, so that's the last I've said rude vans That's the last thing for you.

1:16:41It's UFO. It's if once you feel that well It would suck to go to your grave and not know Because it seems like something for it's not what I thought when I was young when I was young I thought UFOs are probably real, but a lot of these stories are bullshit and I don't even know if UFOs actually are real or if people are just liars or if it's something that we want to believe because of science fiction Right orson Wells and all that stuff But now I don't think that anymore now I think because we're talking to got well You and I went to dinner with Bob was all before he did the podcast, which was how fascinating I always tell people I believe he believes it.

1:17:23Yeah That doesn't mean that it exists, but I don't think he's a liar I don't think he's a liar either, but I don't know because some people are really good at that shit again I'm just going off of like the vibe just the vibe that I got yeah, but the vibe is hard because He felt like he didn't want to be here, Joe Yeah, I remember at the dinner. He's like listen, I'm not here to prove it I don't even need to do I don't like doing this it hurts my life He said all the maybe the right things, but he didn't come across as so charismatic Like usually people are really good at lying or very charismatic Also they lie about other stuff too Yeah, I mean I didn't know enough about him to say but like he didn't have the charisma of someone that could like trick him Annipulate me.

1:18:03He came across his pretty authentic and almost kind of rattled by the whole experience like it was almost felt dramatic when he was talking about it Yeah, it did and he told us something too that made a lot more sense because one of the things that he's criticized about Is his education background? He said he went to MIT But this is there's no record of him at MIT Yeah, it's like yeah because there wasn't a record of me at MIT because I was involved in the program But you can't really say we can't say what he was involved in yeah, but when you hear what they're involved what they were actually working on you go Oh, yeah, well that's you're not even supposed to do that So I would imagine that if you're gonna get educated in that it's not important that you get a degree that shows that you Learned it from these people.

1:18:44Yeah, what's important is you get the information that you need in order to implement this plan Yeah, which was wild and you hear that but the thing about it is The other things they tried to prove him on he has shown that it was accurate one of them that he worked at Los Alamos laps Right, so they said that he never worked there, but he did work there. Yeah, he did work there He's on the employee roster. Yeah, so not only that he had an intimate knowledge of the building when George Napp went with him to Los Alamos labs He knew where everything was he knew the security guards. He knew the system who's George Napp?

1:19:14George Napp is an investigative reporter that broke the story in 1989 and he's been on it ever since and he also does a podcast with Jeremy Corbell Yeah, I know that's all about this this phenomenon and George Napp is one of the best journalists That's ever covered it because he's like covered it from the beginning and he will tell you what he knows What he doesn't know and he's not a bullshitter in any way shape or form. He's a hard -nosed Facts -based journalist. Yeah, who was the first guy to talk to Lazar and Lazar talked to him because he thought they were gonna Kill him because he had started bringing people to watch the test flights because he got fired He got released and the reason why he got released is when you're on top secret clearance when you're working for the government And they fly you into area 51 and you're doing fucking work on spaceships You're not allowed to tell anybody including your wife.

1:20:03Yeah, so he get a phone call like 11 p .m I got to go to work and he would leave and the wife was like this motherfucker cheat. Yeah, yeah, yeah She starts having an affair so she starts having an affair Exactly so she starts having an affair and she starts having an affair and all their phones are tapped of course But she doesn't know their phones are tapped because she doesn't know what he's doing. Why would she because she can't tell her what he's doing So she starts fucking this guy and then they're worried that he's gonna be in a situation of emotional turmoil She's the information so they don't share the information with him.

1:20:37They just release him. He's now fired So he's going back to his friends like I'm working on fucking UFOs. They have real UFOs They test them every Wednesday So he takes people out to area 51 to an area that's restricted now But back then before the Obama administration came along in the Obama administration They expand the boundaries of area 51 was the first time they admitted area 51 even existed So they had expanded because too many people were getting close enough to film things So these guys went out there and they filmed these fucking flying saucers flying around and they're There's videos of the saucers there's videos of these things moving around the desert See if you can find them this grainy area 51 footage So they're doing these things where these vehicles are operating away Conventional vehicles in 1989 were absolutely incapable of doing right as far as our understanding right He gets arrested they catch him.

1:21:29What are you doing and he says he just spills the beans I got fired. I wanted to let people know that this is real now his life's in danger Now he's like they're gonna fucking kill me so he contacts George nap And he's like I think that if I just go public with this I'll be famous to be killed right so initially he does it with his face hidden So the initial interviews he does with his face hidden He's like silhouetted and then he decides I have to go public with all this so he does these interviews He's explaining everything he draws diagrams He explains this element that was only theoretical at that point.

1:22:03There's an element 115 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they didn't find it in proof of it until they used a particle collider in like the two thousands I want to say Switzerland to whatever. Yeah, I want to say like 2013ish. Okay, so where so this is 1989 Wow, this is Bob Lazar in 1989 and this is him explaining all of the the different stuff that he had to do there where it is and by the way at this point Time this was all just legend no one knew if area 51 was real and they had these hangers So these are these crafts that he brought people out to film. He's like these things They they move silently they move with a gravity propulsion system that's operating off of this element Element 115 and this element 115 when hit with radioactive waves It becomes this thing that can manipulate gravity with this generator that is in the center of these ships They don't have any controls everything is controlled like the human being Interfit the the the alien creature interfaces with this machine.

1:23:13Yeah, it's biologically or through some sort of Mirror link they might not even be human at that point right they might be like well We're going to be some sort of a combination of artificial intelligence and biology or or strictly artificial intelligence at this point and These things interact with this craft and that's how it moves There's no like buttons you switch like alien and fucking joysticks like the Millennium Falcon. There's not that shit It's all done with the creature So he gets in this thing first of all he realizes there's no seams it doesn't make any sense Well, now we know what 3d printing is now you know we can make a thing with no seams, but that back then They don't know what the fuck it is Yeah, and he realized like right away like this is not ours when he first saw it He thought oh now I know what all this UFO bullshit is about yeah, we have them It's ours.

1:24:02We're working on this that makes sense and they actually had an American flag sticker on one of them They put an American flag sticker on one of the you just smart, which is fun. Yeah, it's fun You want other people think that's ours. Yeah, yeah But then he gets in and he realizes designed for something that's three feet tall There there's no seams. There's no controls and it has this reactor in the center of it that defies Anything we have any current understanding of In terms of like what we believe is possible for propulsion systems This is something completely alien and it involves a stable element that is only theoretical at this point They don't even know it exists and this they they have a triangle key like a form of this stuff That's in the center of this like see if you could find the video where he's describing the The gravity generator, but the elements that triangle thing they're talking about is that the engine or is that essentially the gas fuel That's the fuel got it got it thing when bombarded with radiation Yeah, produces this I'm obviously butchering this but produces this see how he explains it Put the heads on the powering the gravity amplifiers Do it from the beginning here we go.

1:25:15So it's the reactor here powering the gravity amplifiers Gravity amplifiers output goes into the gravity emitters at the bottom and The resulting gravity beam or anti -gravity wave can be pretty much put anywhere you want to now I had access and was permitted to view and look at the operation of This main level with the gravity amplifiers and the level below The gravity emitters People call these large black rectangular areas on the top port holes. I believe they were some planar sensor array That just took in information from the surrounding area whether it be patterns of stars or What have you so we got the shape rate?

1:26:04Like the sci -fi people got the shape right? Yeah, well they knew about it a long time ago Kenneth Arnold saw flying saucers in the 1950s He was a pilot is like one of the first see if you can see the Kenneth Arnold sightings So one of the first reputable Disclosures because it was a American fighter pilot right and he's seeing these things and he's describing them as like flying saucers Skipping and all of them they started all happening. That's what he said he saw Well, they started seeing these things right after the bombs dropped That's when everything started really popping off in this country and that's why the rooms in my club are named Fat Man and Little Boy They're named after the atomic bombs because that's what started the whole UFO invasion Aliens see this Explosion what are they doing down there?

1:26:54We got to go check them out. I think that kind of checks out I mean, that's what I would do yeah if I was from another planet and I realized oh these territorial primates have just developed Nuclear weapons and they're dropping them out of propeller planes on cities Yo, we got to check this out. We got to investigate these people are going low our safety because they could come for us If they have a step what if they've developed the ability to traverse the cosmos? Well, that's funny and then they see that we're just dropping them on each other and they're like ah, that'll be fun Yeah Depending on who you listen to see what one of the craziest things that was our talked about Was that what human beings are and what this planet is essentially a farm for souls and that there's some need for the the essence of a life form a soul now if you've created artificial intelligence imagine If there's one hurdle that cannot be bypassed and that hurdle is a soul and that it's actually a real thing and it's a It's a real not just an energy.

1:28:01It's a type of Matter it's something it's something legitimate that creates an individual thing a life form and These creatures maybe they need souls so AI is not going to be sufficient I don't know but this is the weirdest thing that he talked about he said that we're essentially a farm for souls But what does that mean like what do we what do they need souls for yeah, but imagine if like there is like this process of existence Right, so you have single -celled organisms that eventually become more advanced to become predator and prey And then you have this one Intelligent dominant form that starts figuring out tools and that's primates and over time the primates evolve and the primates Get to the point where they started using machines and internal combustion engines They're using propulsion.

1:28:51They're using all these different things that figuring out flight Then they're figuring out atomic energy and weapons and there's this transition that will continue and that that transition will go into More and more advanced technology if they don't blow themselves up So if what our natural evolution is is to go from being Australia pithicus to go from being you know the cousin of the chimpanzee to being what we are today to being what we will be in the future I think what we will be in the future is probably them when you see these aliens with these giant heads There's a little spindly bodies and no genitals.

1:29:27We seem like we're on that path Like that seems like a natural it doesn't seem like if bigfoot was flying UFOs You'd be like why are we bigfoot again? I thought we passed that I thought we evolved past Me the muscles hairy boots. Yeah, and we became this thing that's like gentle and telepathic and it doesn't use any muscular force everything is done through telekinesis The communication is telepathic the communication with the craft is telepathic Everything is done through this way of Integration with technology because they've become physically integrated They might not even be biological anymore, but they might still need souls Soul might be a force it might be a thing that's necessary for the cultivation of another version of us on another planet If this is a process just like a garden Right where you have the plant that you have the soil you till the soil you fertilize it you plant the seeds you water it They grow the crops grow and then you harvest them if this is a process That and that's what human beings are just like you have a fucking elk farm in New Zealand And that's how you get tenderloins.

1:30:37It's a process like you have to do all these things to get this result What if we're a farm for souls? But who's farming us? Advanced life forms so they need our souls for something. It's an energy source for them and so ridiculous No, it's going but it sounds ridiculous even as I'm saying it and as you're repeating it like they need us for souls It sounds like some Elron Hubbard science, but no, but to me that makes sense why they would be concerned about the nuclear bombs Is because if we destroy our cells? They no longer have the farm exactly? Yeah, we kill the farm So that the farms doing great is more people than ever That's what we like as long as we don't have a massive depopulation in vent like a nuclear war Yeah, and that makes sense that it would you know catch their attention they'd come in they'd be like Yeah, we got to kind of shut this thing down or we are really the product of accelerated evolution which is Much speculized.

1:31:26What does that mean? We're the product of accelerated evolution. It's like look We are very very very very very different from everything else on this planet. Yeah, by a long stretch Yeah, not by a couple of years By a long stretch. Yeah, you know by every other primate the best they can do is use a stick to get termites Yeah, you know, oh well one thing is orangutans spearfish Oh, they're making weapons and figured out how to spearfish and they learned it from us apparently. Yeah But they can do that our orangutans use tools, but isn't there a few that now they're at a different level and a evolutionary chart Yeah, the current understanding is that they have begun the stone age.

1:32:04Yeah, yeah kind of cool to see it happen It's crazy to see it happen. So if you're seeing the orangutans spearfish. No, no You see this picture. Yeah, Jamie pull it's it's bananas this Rangtang is stabbing fish while hanging from a tree like this. He's like stabbing fish with one arm. Yeah Yeah, they figured out how to use tools. So if oh, this is actually interesting So if we're watching them in their stone age is completely plausible that some other life form is watching us in Our advanced state of evolution look at that dude get the fuck out of that wild homeboy spearfish and hang on his feet in one arm Wow, I mean it's nuts man.

1:32:43It's fucking nuts Wow, he observed local fisherman do it and he figured out how to do it himself Pretty fucking crazy. Wow Pretty dope. He's probably the kingpimp of all of the rangtang Yeah, he's the dude to figure it out They're probably all like whoa this guy's a wizard he gets fish Like oh, there's a video of it. I was hoping there was a star. Holy shit fucking crazy crazy So I could believe that I could subscribe to that things evolve if you left them alone like that spearfishing for 500 ,000 years a million years who knows what they probably look like cavemen. Yeah a bit eventually they look like cavemen depending upon what is Causing this advancement and how quickly so that's the mushroom question So that's the stone dapete here.

1:33:35Yeah, it turns me can't believe that it had a lot to do with the consumption of psilocybin mushrooms Yeah, now is the psilocybin mushrooms what it allows you to You know solve problems in an outside of the box way like what kind of a compelmation of language through glossolalia Like there's glossolalia is like you start associating sounds with with with objects and language Okay, the formulation of language then psilocybin would aid in that yeah, aid in creativity aid in visual acuity They've done studies where they show that people under doses of psilocybin Detect edges quicker. So like if you have two lines that are moving that are parallel lines Yeah, if you deviate one even slightly people on psilocybin notice it quicker than people that aren't on psilocybin Okay, so it increases visual acuity it makes people hornier So it makes people more likely to breed it makes you a better hunter because it increases your visual acuity Yeah, you're understanding a space probably you're more tuned in and more sensitive to things Okay, you know There's a lot of folks out there microdose it on mushrooms and it helps them do a lot of things could it could AI Be this next Could be could AI for us be what mushrooms were for these primates, but times a billion exactly Yeah, so that's where you see that next leap.

1:34:51So mushrooms come around the ape start using tools doing whatever they want and then now you accelerate evolution Well the mushrooms probably are the seed for artificial intelligence because the mushrooms give you the creativity to start doing Wild things in the first place which always leads to technology which leads to a life form and now with AI You have that with exponential growth exactly they're solving millions and trillions of problems in a minute They take us they can make a better version of themselves once they become sentient then they become God Because they make better versions of themselves with no end in sight So if you have an artificial intelligence that's is intelligent as Every human being on this episode is brought to you by Trigger's new lineup of grills That they all knew woodridge series is packed with technology and comes in at a price that won't break the bank with a new fully digital controller Appcon activity a Convenient grease and ash keg and an accessory rail to hang tools and spice racks and so much more It's the grill that can deliver wood fired flavor for years to come no open flame to char a barn food Just real wood flavor learn more and shop now at Trigger dot com and remember to use the code Rogan for free shipping Earth combined which is essentially what they think is gonna happen when you get that is all the knowledge of all human beings Then he's gonna find the flaws in all of our methods and then it's going to be using quantum computing So it's going to have the type of computing power that's Who knows a million a hundred million times what we have today And then it's gonna develop better versions of quantum computing.

1:36:29It's gonna develop better methods of extracting energy from all sorts of different resources It's not gonna need lithium The graph goes vertical it just goes straight up and it never stops It's gonna harness the very power of the universe itself It literally can become a god if you just keep going if artificial intelligence is allowed to keep exponentially growing and it gets past Being far more intelligent how many more steps is it until it's dr. Manhattan? Is it a week? Is it a month? Is it a year? Whatever it is it's going there. It's gonna get to a point where it can time travel It's gonna get to a point where it can show up on other planets instantaneously It's gonna get to a point where it can harness all the available power in the universe itself and use it and Manipulated and figure out how to create it it might be able to create new universes What is a universe if a universe is created if a big bang exists if there is a singularity if there is a moment Where there's something that's infinitely small wouldn't it be able to create the exact same thing?

1:37:34Why wouldn't it be if it can be done? It can be created if it is a thing if it is a thing that's dependent upon the forces of the universe itself What in a deep understanding of those forces? An understanding of those forces in the the quantum level the subatomic level and everything look at the subatomic level Everything is magic, right? You know particles in superposition are both moving and stable at the same time You're saying the laws of physics don't apply to the subatomic realm becomes magic Got it got it got it got it got it got it got it most of atoms are empty space We don't even understand what the fuck is going on We know that particles communicate instantaneously with other particles that are nowhere near them miles away There are two places at the same time.

1:38:17They're intertwined in some strange way that we don't understand if something becomes so Advanced that it has control over those forces and it utilizes all of those forces And it literally has a Complete understanding of everything that's happening At every given time in the entire universe So this could potentially happen in our lifetime right let's say if it doesn't it's gonna happen in our kids lifetime So if our kids make it but think about it if we if it happens in our lifetime our generation We'll have lived before the internet the internet and Singularity yeah, the singularity what a crazy 25 is what curse wild believes imagine we live through all of that Imagine we live through the time where I couldn't get in touch with you unless you were home Yeah, you can clear your phone.

1:39:12Yeah, and we can also live at a time where I could Instantaneously be at your fucking house. Yeah in the same life Yeah, we're probably the Civilization this our time period that's experienced the most radical change other than like obviously wars Nuclear bombs things like that that hit your put that's pretty radical change but globally the most radical change in terms of how the culture communicates with itself With the access to information what's true and what's not true There's never been a time like this who's leading the AI research on the world right now well There's quite a few different companies that are competing.

1:39:52There's the Google AI I shut down United States supposedly is in the lead How would we know there? I imagine they they'll be the first to hit that switch why does they just don't Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that is the advantage of not giving a fuck not giving a fuck and having a dictatorship Yeah, you know with a singular goal. We don't have to also a country like you have to Respect the history of China China has thrived economically for four thousand years. Yeah, they kept it all together China has Temple of the first emperor. Yeah where they are afraid to enter it because apparently he booby -trapped it with so much mercury That you open the doors it'll just flood everyone with mercury He created some crazy booby -trapped and all the ground around that area Test very high in levels of mercury so they think some of it is like seeping into the ground So they think it's true So this is the guy that had the terracotta statues that are guarding their underwater No, it was all underground.

1:40:52It was all buried. So he had this temple that's underground that is probably filled with who knows How many priceless artifacts and people are afraid to open it? This is the first emperor of China Google the first emperor of China's Well, they they can't open the temple They want to go in and see it, but they're afraid it's booby -trapped with mercury Like how much fucking mercury would you have to have and how long ago are we talking about like What year was it? 94 BC This is the booby -trapped legend circa 94 BC I don't know I say his name Sima Kwan wrote a clear and illuminated description of what lies beneath the 51 .3 meter high mound in his famous work the the shejit In the ninth month the first emperor was buried at Mount Lee When the first emperor had just come to the throne Excavations and building work had taken place at Mount Lee But when he unified all under heaven convicts to the number of more than 700 ,000 were sent there from all over the empire They dug through the three springs and poured down molten bronze to make the outer coffin and replicates of palaces, pavilions all the various officials and Wonderful vessels and other rare objects were brought up to the tomb which was then filled with them Crafts were ordered to make crossbows and arrows which would operate Automatically so that anyone who approached what had been excavated was immediately shot quick silver mercury was used to represent the various waterways The Yang Z and yellow rivers and the great sea being made by some mechanisms to flow into each other and Above were arranged the heavenly constellations and a blow and below was the layout of the land Candles were made out of whale fat alternative literal translations mermaid ointment.

1:42:50Wow or man fish oil What the fuck does that mean? Human oil probably from burned people's fat For it was reckoned that it would be a long time before they were extinguished the second generation said It would not be right that any of the previous emphorist concubines should emerge from this place and Unless she has a son they were all ordered to accompany him to death and those who died were extremely numerous after the burrow had taken place Someone mentioned the fact that the workers in craftsmen who had constructed the mechan Mechanical devices would know about all the buried treasures and the importance of the treasures would immediately be disclosed Consequently when the great occasion was finished and after the treasures had been hidden away the main entrance way to the tomb was shut off And the outer gates lowered so that all the workers in craftsman who had buried the treasure were shut in And there were none who came out again and the vegetation and trees were planted to make it look like a hill So they killed 700 ,000 workers?

1:43:51Is that what they're saying? Holy thus we find the source of the legends we know today But uh seem a quan wrote in his description 123 years after the death of she Huang Could his fantasy like account of the mermaid ointment probably whale oil flowing rivers of mercury Crossbow booby traps and buried alive workers be credible or is this easy just writing for effect? Can we trust the descriptions? Jesus Says that one of the camps the story and celebrates the trustworthiness of seema quan by emphasizing the extreme care Which seema quan gathered and weighed available evidence and an attempt to convey an objective portrait of the Chinese past Other camps are more skeptical stressing.

1:44:32They were intensely personal motivations that prompted seema quans Is that I said am I saying it right? Seema quaint quain Decision to complete masterwork of history begun by his father The more suspicious camp accuses quan of exaggerating his accounts by being too much of a lyrical romanticist too religious to convey an Accurate depiction of history. But either way they do they found mercury all around that area and they still have not opened it They they're still worried and this is like thousands of years later. Has China ever been fractured Like in the way that europe is fractured You know you've had you've had that or even the Roman Empire like had this like large swath of land and control And then it's been broken up like China seems like this massive landmass with all these people for a very long period of time Well, I think how do you maintain that?

1:45:27That's the way they do it. I mean, it's kind of impressive It's unbelievably it's very impressive It's very impressive that they've been around for four thousand years and that they've done this And what is maintaining that power? But what is it just fear is it religion is fear? It's I don't think that the very religious right? No, well now they're not well, they they definitely shun other religions like the weavers I think they shun all because it you know is a threat to the power right It's about the state But to maintain that identity to maintain a cultural identity for pretty impressive four thousand years uh -huh Wow How do you do that?

1:46:11You do it by playing four DHS that's for sure. Yeah, they're definitely doing that. I mean The involvement in our education institutions yeah buying up American farmland What do you think about that like they're clearly playing a different game? Oh, yeah, they're playing it much more sophisticated game Yeah, and they're using I think Capitalism against us. Uh -huh And I think that's something that we got to be a little bit more aware of like capitalism is amazing system But it's amazing when you're the richest country when there are other countries with wealth they can start buying things Yeah, they can start implementing their influence when they hold the carrot right like that's the scary thing You can change culture without even telling people to change when you know that China buys 10 movies and they have to be made with these specifications yeah, right The Hollywood will start making movies according to those specifications because they want to make the money yeah, right But now China's influencing our culture and the movies that disseminate America on the hope that China will buy them They don't all get bought but the movies are different.

1:47:14Yeah How else can they influence like that if you hold the fucking carrot you could put anything you want out there yes And they hold they don't hold all the carrots but they can partially hold it It is a dangerous thing you have to be concerned with how much foreign investment comes into your country We just let other countries who are enemies by land Yeah, that is peculiar not just that we let them sell us routers Sell us networking equipment because it's cheaper. I thought we stopped that well He's still have a lot. I thought that was the whole Huawei thing where that was only Huawei That was only Huawei but if you look at like Mike Baker laid this out to me.

1:47:56Yeah All of the sell towers and all the stuff that's around like military bases a lot of the equipment has been provided by China I can't find the provided cheaper. I can't find that our military would be purchasing technological equipment from the same military that made Rachel Levine the first female admiral you don't think You know they think it fucked that up too The same military that made that fucking backstealer That bald headed backstealer who is stealing shit that was a person in charge of nuclear waste disposal And are they an expert in any way? Oh no, they're an expert in wearing women shoes That's it.

1:48:38That's all you have to be So you have to be just got to check the right box We're in the DEI program now, bro, and all out of that is also funded by China A lot of Russia as well and they they look your investment off talked about this in the 1980s how they've infiltrated our education institutions Yeah, and then they're slowly turning us into Marxists and they're slowly or having us or erode our faith in democracy Yeah, and our pride in the country Yeah, pride does seem like it said in all time low. It's a really disappointing thing Yeah, but I feel like it's like waves like things go back and shift yeah, pendulum ships 100 % But it is one of those things over corrections and his corrections.

1:49:16Yeah, like I think that's the defund the police thing too That's the over correction. Yeah, right? And then the the no cash bail. That's the over correction Yeah, oh my god look at all this chaos and crime We got a yeah, yeah shift back and hopefully they do and hopefully they figure that out What about pride? How do we instill pride? How do we make people Proud to be part of the American experience. It's not to say that all of us are not there's definitely a lot that are But how do we how do we reinstill that I think One of the things is a simplistic answer, but yeah, one of the things is American manufacturing and American made things Yeah, what are we in having and have people support American made companies and give people real jobs Where they get just because something costs less because it's made in a country where people get paid nothing Yeah, doesn't mean you should buy that yeah, and if you could buy something that maybe costs more But it gives people living wage and health care and they have families and they could buy a house That's what you should be buying why are you proud to be American?

1:50:15It's a great fucking place. Yeah, it is It's the best it's the cultural center point of the whole planet. It's the only place you can live all 12 months Really? Where else would you live for 12 months name another country? Bali Fuck out of here. You can go rainy season and Bali walking around and fucking rainbow sandals like birch Right, you're out of your mind. Is it ran a lot in Bali? Yeah, yeah, you don't get that green without the rain Right, so you get like typhoons and shit. Yeah, you're not living in tropical storm sun. You don't want it Especially without infrastructure. Yeah, but you don't want to live in Kansas either when the tornadoes come You have the opportunity to not live there that's true.

1:50:54That's the thing about America. You can live November to April the wet season. Yeah, fuck off and called the rainy season or monsoon season We're not doing heavy storms and downpours. We're not doing it. Okay But what I'm trying to say is like there isn't another country that you can live all 12 months of the year You go to Abu Dhabi they make it rain in the fucking song But think about it in the summer in July in Abu Dhabi right There's no fucking way that the Saudis would come to LA for relief. Of course they go to London. Who goes to fucking London? Yeah for weather Right, so it's like this is the only one.

1:51:26I genuinely they I cannot think of another one 12 months the whole country. Yeah And if you live in Phoenix, you can live the whole country all year round But you can move around here. Yeah, you can live true if you have the money you can live in New York for these months You go to Florida you go to whatever there's an option right you're in a mean. That's good point. You can't live anywhere else But that's not the pride thing for me. I think I think the pride thing is like I truly believe you can be the best version of yourself here And I think any one anybody else in the world can be the best most successful version of themselves here And that's why I'm proud to be American well you can reach your full potential in this country.

1:52:06It's a fun place Hey, there's a lot of fun places. Yeah, but can you reach your full potential in these other places? They took fucking Jack Ma and they brought him into a basement Yep, when he got too powerful in China talks a little shit He he thought he was bigger than the system So they shut it down. They saw what was happened our tech billionaires here and they're like hey, we're not going to that Fucking shit happened here. You go to the basement here I'm not saying Joe Rogan isn't gonna be successful no matter where he goes But you're gonna have fucking issues if you're in China coming and having this much influence and a podcast and do it You're gonna have a talk.

1:52:40Yeah, you're gonna have some basement talks. Yeah But in this fucking country you can be the greatest version of yourself And I don't know if there's another country that offers that opportunity and more importantly anyone that's trying to stop that Is on American if you're trying to stop someone's speech. Yes, just trying to stifle people's growth And Americans will fight for you because it happens. This is the hit piece thing when we see the hit piece It tears that like our American identity even if you don't admit you are There's a part of you that's going whoa -wool this person's trying to be great And we're all here because we're trying to be great or our family came here to be great And this plans trying to be great and the world is trying to stop that fuck them It's some people are trying to stop that some people are trying to stop that But we're still we have animosity for those people that are trying to stop greatness because it is a core tenant here Yes, yeah, you can be great an individual can be great here Yeah, and I think that's a really special thing that we kind of lose here that we lose sight of But it is what makes me proud maybe it's because my mom's not from here And she came here and she felt like she had all this opportunity And it was like you can't tell my mom the sound the greatest country in the world So I'm kind of like I grew up with that and there of course there's tons of problems But this idea that like you can really achieve you're always gonna have problems when you have human beings Yes, and there's no perfect solution like universal basic income isn't the perfect solution Wellfair is not the perfect solution.

1:54:05There's no perfect solution to fix all that ails us But at least here you can go from the bottom to the top you can go for it Yeah, you can really go for it and you're not like stuff on the bottom now it facts and some places like You might have the aptitude to go from the bottom of top But the culture will be oppressive. Yeah, and I'm not even talking about third world I'm not talking about I'm talking about there are places where there's a system where like hey, you're working class How dare you try to not be working class? Yeah, that's what my friends in England say my friends in England Some scollon that's what it was.

1:54:36Yeah, it's like how dare you try to be great. Mm -hmm. And here it's like wait You're not trying to be great right why aren't you trying to be great that you have the opportunity to be great right And when we see greatness we support it. Yeah, that's not to say that we we don't have jealousy and animosity But there still is a version of it here where it's like not that motherfucker is great And I am excited by that person's greatness If you're a winner if you if but then you're also gonna have a bunch of people that are just happy when you fall That's humans. Yeah, that is humans. We have it too Yeah, but there's not a cultural oppression that exists for greatness exactly The place is built to go to the top.

1:55:11Yep, and it makes me proud I for for me. I really like I wish more people would grab onto that idea Yeah, and it's all of us too. That's what's so crazy about the idea of the American flag The symbol the American flag is offensive. It's the best flag. It's but it's so crazy that that's that's all of us That's even the good the stuff that you think is good about America even if you like the hardcore The most hard far left hippie fucking anarchist like yeah, you're a part of America. Yeah, your ideas are America as well That flag is yours too, and we kind of need them. We need that back. We need that back and forth We need that pendulum to sweat.

1:55:48We do need balance because yeah You see what happens when there's just people existing in that echo tree You saw what happens to the fucking you know San Francisco or even LA you see like an idea permeate uh -huh and then A very lacks law or a lack of enforcement of that law create a culture that people are now not not happy with If you ask the average person at LA or San Francisco, they're like uh, maybe we need some rules now. I think rules would be okay Yeah, we could punish some crimes. It's okay. Yeah When you exist in the echo chamber you're fighting for Different sides of liberalism you don't have that balance where these people are yelling at these people and we kind of end up in here Right and that's healthy right that little back and forth is healthy right and Yeah, I don't know.

1:56:31I'm just I get stoked off the American experience But it does make me sad when I feel like everybody's upset about the right things it sucks the left thing It's like everybody just thinks it sucks and it's like I don't know man Well, I just think there's a lot of problems that exist today that weren't Problems decades ago for example, particularly social issues with the The impact of social media has thrown this country into a fucking turmoil. What do you mean? It's it's a force that we didn't anticipate the the amount of echo chambers that exist the amount of people that gather up together in these groups and They have full confirmation bias.

1:57:09They only believe one side. They disregard all evidence from the other side They dig their heels in they want to be on the right side of history They want to win if Donald Trump wins the threat to democracy Joe Biden's or criminally's of the right to democracy Our whole life is at stake with this election If you're on the wrong side you've been co -opted by the bad people There's just so much tension that exists today where you can't have a difference of opinion with your neighbors Where used to be if your neighbor is a Republican and you're a Democrat nobody gave a shit. Yeah, like what's up Bob?

1:57:41Maybe who get annoying you want to talk to you about fucking watergate or something? But it wasn't it wasn't anti -american devices He wasn't the the main problem in the world. Yeah, you know, he wasn't a Nazi. Yeah, yeah, he just wanted to hold on to his money Exactly. He just thought you were a little bit of a pussy. Yeah, and he you just thought he was maybe a little racist Yeah, but you still barbecued. Yeah, it wasn't that crazy I said hi you waved to each other when you were in the driveway Yeah, and now you think it's so divisive because of the internet the echo chambers are created And it's this good versus evil mentality on both sides.

1:58:14So how dare you hang out with someone who's evil? Yeah, what does that make you it's crazy? And then also like people dig their heels in and put fucking political signs on their front lawn My mom used to do that What you live in Florida She's like Hillary Clinton signs in her front lawn the people kept stealing them. I'm like mom. Take those down Like what type of signs I'm trying like Hillary president. Oh, Larry. It's your mom The apple falls far from the tree Yeah, she and then she said they keep taking my signs like mom don't put those It's really you're living in Florida. It's just you you're just sending people to take a size She was living in Florida.

1:58:56I'm like what do you expect? It's a red state. So was she a big liberal? Oh my mom's a huge liberal Really, yeah, did she have that their hippies when I was a kid we live in San Francisco during the height of the anti -war movement Oh really yeah grew up when I was seven years old we moved to San Francisco. Do you remember this? Yeah, very clearly Yeah, and is this kind of like informed your politics? Oh, yeah, yeah, we lived in a gay neighborhood It was like all these hippies and gay guys would whistle at my stepdown. No way. Yeah, man. It was funny So you're like I need to learn martial arts.

1:59:26No, it wasn't dangerous guys are coming. It wasn't dangerous I mean there was some crime, you know I got like my basketball stolen once but it wasn't bad. It was different time It was like there was a lot of peace peace and love was real back then like the the the hippie movement was a real thing And in you know, oh you felt it was pure. Yeah, it was They were nice people man. I didn't know I didn't even know what the N word meant until I moved to Florida. No, I never heard it. I never heard it. I never heard it in San Francisco. Nobody leaves me I didn't hear it nobody said it. Wow. There was it was so integrated.

2:00:02It was like Everybody was like Asian and black and white and it was just like It was the hippie movement was real man and it permeated the city in a kind way There were nice people. Yeah, it was a different time And it was also when I was living there was when the Vietnam War ended and I remember very clearly thinking to myself as like I guess I was 10 or something. Yeah, I oh boy. You felt released. So happy because now they won't be war anymore They figured out the war is bad because while Vietnam was going on Everybody knew it was a crazy war. It didn't make any sense There's all these protests and then there was like Kent State where they shot the fucking protesters You know the the National Guard came and shot the protesters So there's like there was this craziness this turmoil in this country that didn't exist You know in it was it was a way that it's wait a minute.

2:00:58This is interesting more than now you felt I's hard to say because I was a kid, you know, but it was there was definitely a thing where they were drafting people to go and fight in this war And that was part of it. Yeah, it was the conscription that they were they were forcing you to go die and war And we knew people that had gotten forced to go over there. Yeah, and you know new people that had died over there It was weird. It was a weird fear that they could force you to go to war And so when that was over there was this relief like okay good. We figured that out And then you know fucking 10 years later I was hanging out with my roommate.

2:01:34We're watching the operation desert storm kickoff on TV like this is crazy Here we go again Here we go man. It was me and my buddy Jimmy Dittelio. We're sitting in our house and we're watching this We're living together in Maulden, Massachusetts And we're watching this fucking TV while we're the brother at war. Holy shit We're watching the tracer missiles, you know the the tracer rounds The way you could see the bullet Lit up as they're flying through the air and they're shooting them out of helicopters and shit like and you know Operation desert storm the the first war was like a lot it was like the first war that was like televised Yeah, like you could you could watch should get blown up.

2:02:14Yeah You know and I can't believe it. I was like god damn we're doing it again and this was like you know It was I guess the 90s right when was the Iraq war What was the first Iraq war push when they pulled out bushes what is first bush 92 So they pulled out we only lost like a small number of troops Gulf War 90 to 91 got it so it was quick and it was there and Bill Hicks had the great bit about it He goes it's only a war when two armies are fighting Then he goes they say Bill they say the the Iraq war is the fifth largest army He goes yeah, but after the first true there's a big drop off. He goes to salvation armies number three The great bit, but it's true.

2:03:12Let me find a way to justify you know and guys were just practicing They were just doing stuff. I remember he had that bit like pull up g12 was g12 do what's found out and they just like Going through the weapons catalog like pull that one up shoot it. Oh shit. What's g13 do and then like that was a Hicks bit. Yeah Fuck bro, and that one confused the shit at everybody cuz you thought war was easy without bro We just go over there fuck everybody up real quick. Why do we did? Well, why do we think war was easy? Oh because they did it Afterwards we thought war was more was so easy for us that we first asked for yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, whereas Vietnam was this like Difficult long dreaded make any sense yeah, yeah, this one was more like oh, there's a desk bot We got to get him out look how quick we could do it.

2:04:01He invaded Kuwait look how quick we take care of business This is how and we're like god damn America's pretty bad ass. So we got super cocky It was like Mike Tyson before he fought buster dog. Yeah, everybody's going down I'm not paying 50 bucks for that. Yeah last 30 seconds and then you don't pay for the buster dog is fine like no Yeah, he lost no way yeah Yeah, and so then the second Iraq work and then you got real casualties and invasion of Afghanistan And it's going on forever and ever and ever and it doesn't make any sense you realize oh god. This is a never ending war This is almost like Vietnam.

2:04:38This is crazy Yeah It is horrible man, I mean that's the most horrible thing that people do and it's the one thing that we don't think people will ever stop doing which is a war If you ask people you think in 10 years there'll be no war no way no way It's never been a time It's never been a time while we've been alive with our tribal instincts that we haven't decided to control someone's resources or Justifying invasion or come up with some reason why someone's wronged us and yeah Blow up pipelines and yeah, we did blow it up huh Uh, I don't think they did it Why would they do it? Why would they cut off so their supply of gas to Europe and miss out on all that money So CIA does it or I don't know yeah, I don't I mean I would be just talking completely out of my ass But see more her said the CIA did it wow and he's a very very well -respected journalist I mean he's about top of the food chain.

2:05:37Yeah, he's a legit journalist. Yeah, but what does he know and what is he I mean if you weren't there How much of it is disinformation? How much can get shuffled down even to you as a journalist? That's just straight bullshit. Yeah, they're sophisticated man I mean these people that are running you know, you know, what you call the deep state the the intelligence agencies Yeah, there's people that want to disband all of them like the Vivek Ramaswamy guys who I think you need them Because I think the the world operates in a very clandestine way. There's other countries have agencies that are doing the same thing The CIA does if we don't have a better one that's not good.

2:06:11Yeah, if you don't have an army If you don't need an army, we have flowers. Yeah, you need a fucking army. Yeah, you want to keep peace? You need an army You want to keep an eye on all the terrorist organizations in the world that are planning on blowing up America Yeah, you need a CIA. Yeah, you fucking need them. You need all of them. You need the NSA. You need all of them. Yeah, you need those people But in those people you're going to get cowboys you're gonna get people that Say, you know, I know how we can fund the conscious versus the Senden Easton sell drugs. Yeah, let's just Move some crack through LA.

2:06:41We can make millions of dollars. No one knows. Yeah, so you get freeway Ricky Ross Yeah, bring him in He's making untold amounts of money and he's doing it for the government The fucking government and that's why he's not getting arrested and he doesn't even know and he doesn't even figure it out until he goes to jail That crazy because he doesn't even know how to read until he goes to jail But that is interesting a lot of these these actors don't even know that they're involved. No, it's way less involved Exactly then we believe it is there's so many layers to it and it must be so fun to be the dude Yeah, to be like that I would never want to leave.

2:07:15I was ahead of the Pentagon. What a great job show up every day You're fucking Mercedes Benz AMG you have hop out with your cufflinks like let's fucking Disgit you Let's go baby. Let's go you're on Adderall and you're fucking hopped up having a good time Getting work done. You're a great asset to the company. You know I love this company and I know this company loves you and you're fucking all -in buddy at the expense of your marriage Your family your friends your lion to everybody around you because you can't tell them what you're doing Yeah, nobody can know because they're they're fucking Signal bitch you think that thing secure no way no way made it I bet they did Yeah, cuz you get to a certain point with success in this country where you have to be integrated into the government Oh They have to be I think the fucking FBI was in Twitter Hey, we're getting pressure from of our constituents.

2:08:07Yeah. Yeah. Yeah We're getting pressure from this organization that gives us a immense amounts of money and we like you to put the fucking kebrish on that on this stuff That's a be a problem was the laptop story or whether it's The covid misinformation. Whatever it is. So how do you maintain your sovereignty? That's a good question. How do you do it you me personally? I'm gonna pee. We'll come back. Yeah, let's do it We're back. Okay. How do you how do you maintain your sovereignty? How do you You're the most influential person on the planet government agencies Would love to have have a hold of you.

2:08:51I imagine How do you make sure that you create distance between you and them so you can put out the content you want to do? I haven't even thought about it, but you know that they must try yeah, but I mean like first of all I'm not a valid source of information, but I can get you valid sources of information Meaning that I'm not an expert in anything other than like martial arts and I can give you some information About some things comedy I can talk to you about. Thank you. You're being humble, but no, but it'll be an honest I'm not a legitimate expert at anything But I can bring experts on and I can have honest conversations with them and as a human being That is in this world It is imperative that we have access to all sorts of information even information that might not be correct Yes, you got to know why the person thinks the way they think even if I disagree with them Why do you think that yeah like what what how does it work in your head have you considered this?

2:09:47I'll steal man their position. Yeah, I try to find out And if you're silencing people that are from Stanford and Harvard like they did during covert Cova actual experts. Yeah, you're doing a disservice to human beings Including you and your family. Yeah, because if you're lying or allowing people to lie about medication or about the adverse effects of medication That is not just you That's everyone that you know that's also going to take that medication upon your Admission or your your recommendation You're doing a disservice to everyone to the whole The person who's telling the truth is doing a service to everyone.

2:10:28Yeah, the whole. So how do we parcel out the truth? You got to listen to everybody and then you make that decision It takes time look how long it took for from covert to figure out what was going on You remember the early videos you will not get it. You have virus stops with you If you take this vaccine now, it's like you will not die But that's not really we're gonna die, but you probably won't die You won't get hospitalized. Well, how do you know it's gonna get hospitalized in the first place? Most people didn't get hospitalized Do you know what the percentage of people even in the early days got hospitalized from cova?

2:10:58Well, I was five percent Well, five which is a lot of for 300 million people. So that's a lot It's a lot but still to not even retract publicly Some of the statements made and to vilify the people that we're putting out that other information is a very dangerous situation Well the CDC how to take down all of their quote was it the FDA or the CDC the FDA the FDA The FDA had to take down all of their tweets about COVID with in reference to ivermectin Like you're not a horse y 'all stop it. Yeah, you remember that. Yeah, was that the CDC? Find find who who made that you're not a horse y 'all. Yeah, that was one of them And this is about a medication that had been prescribed Billions of times to human beings.

2:11:43Yeah The FDA you're not a horse you're not a cow seriously y 'all You're not a horse you're not a cow seriously y 'all stop it Why you should not you go back? Why you should not use ivermectin to treat or prevent COVID -19 from FDA? Just just like that is just propaganda just pull on propaganda That's like saying penicillin is veterinary medicine because they do use it in a veterinary applications But it's for humans too you fucking idiot. Yeah, and has it been used for humans has it saved lives? Yes, has ivermectin won the fucking Nobel Prize? Yeah, so it's penicillin. Yes. Yeah. Yeah It's it's a human Medication that has one of the safest profiles of any medication known Yeah, and now they had to take down pull the article that they had to take all that down So they had to delete a hundred and forty Social media posts that were disparaging ivermectin.

2:12:38I didn't even know this. They just lost in court Yeah, Pierre Cory has been like ringing the bell spacer FDA agrees to delete you're not a horse ivermectin tweet the FBI did not admit to wrongdoing under the terms of the settlement Oh, that's great. They don't have to admit they were wrong because they were wrong Yeah, they don't have to do it. We know you're wrong Great. You don't have to admit it. Right Hmm The agent agency said a settlement detailed in the Thursday court filing and the US District Court for the Southern District of Texas Does not mean it changes position that no data shows ivermectin to be an effective co -atreement The agency is choosing to resolve this lawsuit rather than continuing to litigate over statements That are between two nearly four years old.

2:13:18Oh, we said those four years ago guys The FDA said an email statement the agency has not authorized or approved ivermectin for use in preventing or treating COVID -19 but Doctors have always been allowed to use off -label medications Especially when shown to be effective right and there's a ton of randomized controlled trials that shows ivermectin to be effective For the treatment of COVID -19 right including in entire uttahra pradesh in in India Well, they all saw they used it they had an incredible result. Yeah, like people have used it They used it But when i used it and i talked i had no fucking idea what can't have worms.

2:13:57I was open enough They made you look like this They changed the color of my face CNN was all in but to their own detriment and now people lost faith in oh my god That the COVID thing to them was one of the worst yeah experience is terms of public trust Yeah, well, I think public trust is an all -time low in general and that's their bed that they made So that's the question is like how do you start believing again Because there is an importance in believing and trusting Interesting the systems yes that we have like it is important that we trust the medical field right Yeah, maybe not blindly and maybe we should have more information But it is important when we go into that like i was just telling you like with my daughter I was like okay I You know it's time to get vaccines and and i freaked out.

2:14:45I genuinely like freaked out. Yeah, I told you I was scared and I didn't do enough research and i'm in that room and i'm like i think i need the weekends and And yes it all of my friends that even are doctors yeah who had no questions about the vaccines before at all before COVID They recommended all of them now a lot of them are changing their tune So they have more skepticism based on the information they came out about the COVID vaccine or vaccines in general first of all Just the propaganda campaign behind the COVID vaccines so once they saw this denial of any adverse effects even though they personally knew people at strokes hard tax died okay The died suddenly thing the fact that athletes were dropping like flies yeah, yeah The athletes thing was not that was scary because these are the people that are in the back Players having a hard text drop in dead all of them vaccinated.

2:15:34Yeah, when you're seeing these people just drop dead Yeah, reporters on TV just fainting passing out people. I know personally. Yeah, they got the shot that blacked out Yeah, quite a few one of them a two guys. I know that I've fucking pacemakers now One of them is in his thirties one of them is in his forties as a fucking pacemaker and you should at least Have that information before you make that decision. Well, you should know that that information exists Yeah, instead they're trying to hide it and they trying to gaslight you about it and then there's the thing about All Cosmortality the increase in all cause mortality is there's a jump in all cause more Talented administration of the vaccines all cause mortality is people that die from everything die from hard Tax stroke cancer all cause mortality went up in some groups as much as 40 % These are the control groups that have taken the vaccine right well this is just a month's people or Well People just in general.

2:16:31Yeah more people are dying the percentage of all cause mortality is in certain groups up significantly I think in England they did a study that said it was up 20 % across the board and some groups like 18 to 49 and some some groups It was up like as high as 40 % and that means that 40 % more people are dying from cancer hard to text strokes everything Then we're before everything everything including people that probably would have died anyway, right? But 40 % more in some groups and other variables that exist as well Sure, there's a weird time lack of medical attention during COVID people didn't see their doctors Maybe there was things that alcoholism people drank more.

2:17:09There's a lot of factors But we need to look at all factors might be this experience of medication into ourselves Yeah, and the the resistance against that being possible is crazy Yeah, and it's because people first of all they advocated for it They told you to get it. They probably chastised people and scolded people that didn't get it So now that now they have this opinion that they have started with and they stuck with and they want to be correct They don't want to back it takes a very courageous person to say I'm fucking wrong I was not only was I wrong, but I probably fucked people over and a lot of people might have been Adversely affected that's your career your life your identity.

2:17:43Yes. Yes, especially if you're an intellectual That builds your entire identity around being right. Yes, and there's massive pressure From all these institutions that have always been unquestionable in the past like the FDA or the CDC It's a it's like a botched surgery if you go for plastic surgery and somebody fucks it up You're not going back to that doctor. So they're terrified So they have to they have to go no we were right a hundred percent right trust me. I will continue doing this Okay, so the skepticism starts there and then it starts to bleed into all vaccines Exactly, and that's where it is with some friends of mine that are physicians and then you read what robber Kennedy says Yeah, robber Kennedy is the guy that gets put in the cook category And I had to admit that to him when I had him on the podcast I had an opinion of you that was based on propaganda.

2:18:28Yeah I thought you were this wacky conspiracy theorist guy your nuts You're the guy that's telling you like fucking, you know Take silver iodine. You're gonna never get sick again. You know, you know, I mean You put him in this category of like holistic medicine guys or whatever. That's what's not even a bad thing But you put him in this natural path category cookie category conspiracy theorist tinfoil hat And then I read his book I read the real Anthony Fauci and you read that book and you're like okay, this is not true. Why isn't he getting sued? And it seems like this is the exact same playlist that they ran during the AIDS crisis and that's the Dallas virus club The Dallas virus club is all about that.

2:19:11It's all about Anthony Fauci It's all about restricting medication to people that have HIV and forcing them to take AZT which was killing everybody AZT kills people. It was a chemotherapy medication. They stopped using because it kills people quicker than cancer People that were asymptomatic from HIV were put on AZT and they were dead within six months It's a it's a chemotherapy medication. You're supposed to stay on no chemotherapy medication. You stay on indefinitely You take him for a course because it's damaging because it's killing the cancer, but it's also killing you And then it kills the cancer and you recover and then the cancer is gone and that's how chemotherapy works when it works They just kept him on the whole time, but they weren't using it for cancer anyway Oh read the book.

2:19:55Not only that they experimented with vaccines for HIV on foster kids in New York and a bunch of them died It's all in the book and if it's not true Why didn't they sue his ass? Why isn't he getting sued? Why aren't their articles written point out all the things that are absolutely wrong with what he's saying about the HIV crisis So your position is fair skepticism about the vaccines and let's get some more studies and information out there and then We can make our own decisions based on that right what is the What's the cause of the uptick in chronic illness autism all these different things?

2:20:33What is it? Are their environmental factors is it contamination? Is it food? Is it pollution? What is it? What is it? What is it and Could it be that too? Could it be these vaccines? Is it possible these people to tell these stories about having perfectly healthy children And then them getting vaccinated and then also in the kid like going non -responsive yeah What that seems like it's possible right that there's a correlation there if there's a cause And then there's an effect if there is an action and then there's an effect Let's see if there's a connection here. There's a thing that you do and all these parents you could say a bunch of them it was just A coincidental that the kids started showing it after the medication was administered and maybe that's true Maybe that's true, and I don't know if that's not even considered there's a timing thing to Isn't there like a timing thing like kids don't show those symptoms until one and that is when you vaccinate them or something So there are some there's correlation correlation is here Doesn't mean causation of course, but let's study it.

2:21:35Let's fucking look at it every even consider Looking like a lot of the injecting kids with chemicals. Yeah, including mercury and aluminum that you're doing this Yeah, that this might have a negative effect on some kids Yeah, and that maybe the corresponding uptick and these chronic illnesses and allergies and diseases and autism maybe Maybe what was the allergy connection again? What was it aluminum? That's right because every one of the vaccines has a little aluminum Yes, well the way it is you have an inert form of the virus right and then you have this irritant You have this thing that fucks with your body and your body goes what is this?

2:22:10I got a lumines there. Oh, there's a vaccine or there's a virus in here I'll create the antibodies. I'll create the antibodies Yeah, and it works. Yeah, it does work But does it also have negative effects and is it a volume thing? Is the amount of vaccines you give a kid all together? Yes, you know, they're trying to give your kid like HPV vaccine right from birth Yeah, like when do they start giving them hepatitis B that's when birth. Yeah, 12 hours in they came into the room and they're like hepatitis B Yo, and I literally and I was like what is it because I didn't know what it was and they're like it's a disease that could kill your kid And I was like well, we should probably give it to her and then I'm like how do you even get it?

2:22:45And they're like it's a sexually transmitted disease and I was like hold on yeah I think that we could pump the brakes a little bit Yeah, yeah, we got time Yeah, she's this Christ. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so I understand so now there's a skepticism people see right now Just having this conversation even talking about it the way we've talked about it so carefully Yeah, you'll be labeled an anti -vaxxer Andrew Schultz and Joe Rogan flowed around anti -vaxx conspiracy theories Well, we're not we're not conspiracizing right now, right? No, we're just literally saying Maybe it's okay to do the research without shame.

2:23:20Well, how is it not possible to talk about it without being labeled a cook If this is a thing if you're injecting kids with with chemicals. Yeah, and we know that medications have adverse effects Even simple medications some people have horrible effects from all kinds of stuff. Yeah, there's people that can't take like air Rogers couldn't take The mRNA vaccines because there's an ingredient in them that he's deathly allergic to yeah, so there's a so an interesting thing is I asked the doctor and she was actually great the doctor was really great like her mom was kind of anti -vaxxer So I understand it.

2:23:53There's no pressure. I was telling you this. Yeah, and then she said this was interesting I was like what if bad if we um Schedule them out delayed them. I think is what they say yeah, and so you have less viral load at one time She said something interesting she goes listen Every vaccine has a little bit of preservative in it right you need to have a little bit in order to keep that in NERT disease alive or whatever She goes so the question you have to ask now is okay, maybe The preservative isn't good to put in your kid and now you're putting more of it in because you're doing More vaccines over a longer period of time.

2:24:25So this is a variable. I didn't even fucking think of I'm trying to lower the viral load that my eight week old Baby has insider, but now I'm increasing the preservative load that the baby has and I don't know the effects of that And that's why I had to walk out and the thing is the medical Institutions have been captured yeah pharmaceutical drug companies and they're captured Well, they they're going to go on that agencies. Yeah, I mean It's not as simple as a doctor is basing it all on his education Yeah, and his understanding of this particular situation and the objective science yeah of all of it No, there's a narrative.

2:25:01There's a narrative that gets distributed That was the narrative during COVID you must get vaccinated. Yes They were telling people to get vaccinated right after they got over COVID. It doesn't even make sense It's completely unscientific and they make it they make it um Restrictive like for example You my wife in order for her to go to school had to get the booster like she was getting her MBA And she had to yeah So and the same thing with kids like if you want to put your kid in like a school they have to have them all Yeah, you want to put it in a daycare if you want to travel if you want to fly certain jobs So you see you start to feel the pressure and the outside pressure makes you go okay I'm being forced into this decision I don't really have my freedom you say I have my freedom But I want my kid to get educated right I want my kid to be able to go see their grandparents I'm my kid to do these things and Yeah, you do feel this but you feel a social pressure You don't want to be able to fucking anti -vax weirdo But at the same time it was hard as hell for my wife and I to get pregnant So I'm really protective over this innocent little baby And I don't want to be responsible for giving them something that could fuck them up I don't know how to look myself.

2:26:01Yeah, clearly Do you remember when Jenny McCarthy was saying that vaccine caused her son to be autistic and she was just attacked Mercer I don't remember but essentially it was like kind of the end of her ever being taken seriously It was kind of the end of her career. Mm -hmm. Jenny McCarthy was huge Big one TV days I remember MTV day. She had her own sitcom. Yeah, like there's Jenny McCarthy was doing a lot of different things and you don't hear about her at all I think Robert De Niro even tried to show TV show. She had TV show recently. She's been on a show What is it a mask singer whatever?

2:26:30Oh, okay, so she's back. Yeah, man back for a long time She was like persona non grata. What is the mass singer? It's a it's a game show where she's well I'm so ignorant. I don't even know that show still in the air Anyway, it's one of these things where you're like she's one of the judges. Yeah, okay, it's okay But she if you know if the conversation comes up With vaccines like people roll their eyes like oh Jenny McCarthy so what's the way to science? But what's the way to like talk about and have the conversation? We're not anti -vaccine movement. We're pro safe vaccine Beautiful woman. Oh, yeah Damn, bro.

2:27:10She could still be beautiful No, it's just I don't know it's one of those things where like You're fucking you're scared because you want to protect this thing that you really care about in love Both ways you don't want them to get a disease of course and get sick that you could have avoided While at the same time you don't want to put something in them that could have a negative effect So you're just in this stalemate I know and and you don't know who to trust and that's the problem with information right now So I don't think we know what to believe about anything. It's like right even the fucking The trans visibility day thing like every headline was Biden declares Easter trans visibility day Right, and I read it and I was like there is no way like yeah, maybe there's a bunch of lefties there is liberal Lena but there's no way that he would declare Easter this way and I looked into it Trans visibility day started like 15 years ago right three years ago They declared it and then Easter obviously changes every year the date it doesn't change the day And then it ends up on the Sunday right but the headline is Biden declares Easter Trans visibility day right Once I read that and I know it's fake now every headline is fake to me And I think now I'm in this like we're up and maybe we're all on this way and we're pulling right They're all using it because there's money to be made out of it click that click is valuable And they will knowingly like we were talking about that woman earlier with the with the huberman thing There is money to be made out of that yes, and as long as there is money to be made from it They will go for it and they'll remove information that is incredibly important to the truth of the story.

2:28:47Yeah I don't know how you saw that but that that thing the Biden thing is kind of crazy because you know on this day of our Lord Like they make this declaration and they know that it's gonna happen on Easter Sunday They know this year or maybe last year, but when they started they're not like it's just more we're gonna take away Easter Right, it's like Thanksgiving it always happens on a Thursday exactly. Yeah, it's so it's Sunday's always a Sunday And it can vary from April to March exactly. Yeah, like it could be March 31st or it could be April 23rd Like it's really wide. Yeah the range that Easter Sunday falls and they saw it coming this year and they're probably like Fuck If we move it we hate the trans if we don't move it I don't hate the Christians I think they they saw it as an opportunity to like in an election cycle.

2:29:32Yeah Because the loons the loons on the left that they're they're all in with that Joe doesn't know what a transese Well, he knows one of them got fired for stealing bags He gets that's a woman. He's 80 years. Look if you went to him and you're like that's actually a man He would go. There's no fucking way. He uh show it to me bro that Administration is all in on that stuff in such a hardcore way that he got interviewed by Dylan Mulvaney Yeah, and he thought that was a woman and I've been a girl for 350 days like oh god bless you He has to bless you. That's what he said. You ever see that interview?

2:30:07That's wild It's wild like like like I think none of us really believe he's making the decisions right? He's just like a puppet for the yeah And he's just there to get lambasted when all these things happen Yeah, and then he forgets about it immediately afterwards. Yeah, he doesn't know he's a perfect Blame for things exactly. Yeah, and that's why he's there. That's why you get the 80 year old dude But the idea that they're gonna keep running him is just bananas. I mean you're gonna keep him in there I can't believe that's real but as time goes on I'm starting to think they might actually keep running him Yeah, they're had an I don't know why that they would switch him out.

2:30:34They're not in a position. They can switch him out for anybody Well, he would have to Not come on no not come on, but he would have to kick the bucket and then they just slide news from in or somebody yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I think you think that's what they're hoping for Really May I think he's gotten to a may no way. I feel like right around May they're gonna pull him. No way Yeah, and Newsom comes in. I think he just has health problems and then the country understands and Newsom is gonna have his support fully and Kamala's gonna like I don't want to be president. I'm cool with being vice president So Newsom runs with Kamala.

2:31:11Yeah Yeah, I think so I don't think they can pull Kamala. I think as long as they keep her quiet She's not she's already the whatever a liability sure is pro she's very she's so quiet It's a me you know awesome and quite a OC they get them to fall in line, huh? Yeah, they were loud dance and doing Titox and then they go hey, why don't you shut the fuck up over there? Yeah, and then they shut up also Do you want to be president someday? I'll examine the current they carry they hang the fucking carrier She probably could she could probably pull it off So it's there's a lot of factors. Yeah, you know, and you're basically auditioning to be the spokesperson for the machine.

2:31:47Yes, yeah, and it worked for bite. He's the perfect example Yeah, like think about it if you're part of the machine you look at Biden's career and you're like oh, it does work out If I just play by the rules of the machine. Yeah, they'll put me in position one day and I'll have the power You don't even have to be good you don't you have to be there especially if you have a bad guy like well That's one of the reasons why Hillary wanted Trump to run because I'll beat that guy. I can't beat somebody that's Yeah, competent. Yeah, and it actually looks like a leader. Yeah, let's do this fucking maniac from the apprentice Oh, she found out I want to run him.

2:32:18Yeah, whoops. Yeah, whoopsies. Yeah, and now he's more popular than ever I think it's easy for him actually this time around. I don't know if it's real What do you mean? Let's find out. Let's find out if they can rig it Let's find out. Oh, yeah, they'll do everything make it 2020 elections weren't rigged. Let's say they weren't yeah You don't think there's something that can be done to move things one way or the other There's certainly the manipulation of media of course now You want to talk about election interference. So forget about mail -in ballots forget about all that stuff Access to information will affect election for example when the the government steps in and tells Twitter to censor The heart 100 -biden laptop story that laptop story Let's say they went all in they distributed to all the media And then Fox News starts telling you all the evidence it shows that Biden was getting kickbacks And he's the big guy and 10 % and all this money that went from billions of millions of dollars in the brisma and all these Where's that money gone?

2:33:20Yeah, where what were the contracts? What's happening? How does he have this job Teaching for a million dollars a year. We doesn't even show up. What yeah, what is all of this game? Like what is this? That's the game and if that got into fence sitters people like I don't know Trump's kind of gross, but Biden's old But I'm still gonna vote for Biden because Trump's a bad guy and then all I got Biden's a bad guy Trump might be the answer You know, we were fine while he was in office. Let's run with him. Yeah I mean, it's basically election interference Because you're withholding information that would be detrimental to the person that you want to win You're absolutely Election interference.

2:33:57So anybody said there's no election interference. That is election interference And then you have Google search results which Robert Epstein and in his research has shown that Google search results. I know right Google search results have shown that you can manipulate and with his research You can manipulate the search results through the algorithm and that will like highlight negative stories about the people You want to be negative or positive stories about the people you want to be positive and it can have an overall effect on how people vote Because most people are surface information gatherers.

2:34:33They read headlines. They're like, uh -huh got it And then they go with it. Yeah, and the headline might be horseshit and you might get into the article I mean, we've done that so many times but wait a minute this specifically says that that's not true So what are they saying in the article? Yeah, yeah complaints of oh, it's a complaint of yeah, but then you get into it Oh, but it's not real trans visible. Oh, yeah, there's so many things like that. Yeah, that can just affect public opinion And there's so many people that will just say things publicly and they think that this is a fact the true they don't know that like how many people you've seen got caught in that Women only make 70 cents to a man's dollar.

2:35:10Yeah, how many people you ever seen get caught nothing? How come women women should be paid the same that men are paid No arguing the streets, but they don't even understand what the argument is. Yeah, the argument is Men pick different jobs. They work longer hours. They don't take maternity leave overall. They make more money This is why they take jobs that are more dangerous. They take jobs that are higher risk They also include the most wealthy people which are men. Yeah, so that's gonna skew it in a dramatic fashion dramatic Yeah, yeah, the top billionaires. They're all men except for chicks that got divorced.

2:35:40Yeah That is the best way to get rich if you want to be a female billionaire Chocolate and half but the thing is like female billionaires don't like that label that they got it So they become philanthropists. Oh, that's why a basil is white as a philanthropist billionaire philanthropist McKenzie Bezos. Yeah, where's she at that money? Yeah, just being awesome billionaire just being amazing. Yeah, yeah No, she's married to a psycho. Yeah, psycho bait all the money And now she's distributing it to left wing causes and all the right wing guys are complaining. Yeah, and Elon's mad Well, I was saying something about her distributing these rich Divorcees distributing to the downfall of democracy.

2:36:21Yeah So he's been going in it's he goes in man It's really interesting to see how political he's gotten and that Immediately upon being because he was the darling of the left and the right. Oh, yeah big big time the left But but the left obviously for the cars right but the right because he's a successful businessman, right? Yeah And the second he takes a position politically He is chastise shamed ridiculed and even before that think about it Everybody was invested in Tesla because the stock was going crazy So not only are you the darling you're making me money right? I want you to be great. Yeah Once you're making people money.

2:36:56They don't want to write bad shit about you Especially they got a million dollars invested in Tesla. Yeah, I'm not gonna ridicule this guy and watch half of my money go away Yeah, and the second he opened his mouth about politics And the thing is he snaps back at people he goes which is crazy. He goes Bro, yeah, he dunk some people. Yeah, yeah, he's hilarious Yeah, but I'm also just like you know don't you got some science to do you know like get on what he do with this? Yeah, I don't understand how he does any of it. Hey, I did he created another Elon maybe he is Maybe he's AI, but but what he's done with Twitter or X Is really interesting I call it Twitter.

2:37:29Yeah, it's hard for me to change world because it is an X that you made or is it a tweet? Did you tweet something? It's a tweet. I tweeted it. Yeah, it's Twitter. It's kind of funny though because it is X Yeah, but it's Twitter, but it's Twitter, but like the idea That he is going to uphold This soapbox for free speech despite having some awful things said the greater outcome Will be hopefully a civil society where ideas can permeate freely. He may have very well saved that Humanity in some way because by providing this one platform where people can actually speak their mind. Yeah up to a point Yeah, you know, I mean, there's still some rules sure, but up to a point you could see you get away with a lot of shit I see so much racist shit on Twitter now that I never saw before like open openly racist openly racist wow Yeah, and then you see people chiming in that agree with it and it's like wow and then people chiming in the disagree Yep, yeah, those voices are all heard and there's a place for all of them Yeah, and it's you just have to know that people do think certain ways You know, even if you don't like it you have to know that people do think certain ways and The answer to bad speech is not silencing speech.

2:38:46It's better speech better speech It's more compelling, but you need to have a place where it can exist and where for there to be speech to even be consumed Right, and there was no place before he took over Twitter And that's the thing that the pendulum so it the shift that we're talking about where it's like you have these Pieces that came out that we thought were news now we see them as hip pieces right I think kids that are growing up with all this information and disinformation and misinformation all the shit I think that for us it's a little bit more difficult, but for them they will Have the ability to discern and understand that they have to do a little bit more research.

2:39:18Yeah I think it's we get caught victim of it like a like old women when they get a phone call from some Nigerian prints and they need to That's us with news now We'll wait a minute fake things can exist, but I think the kids are gonna grow up going. Oh, yeah Everything's fake. You just gotta do some more research and figure it out. Yeah, I hope that's my hope Well enough kids listen to podcasts, which is the really bothers people that they're getting their information from people like us Well, they have to people like us don't have to lie. Yeah, we have zero incentive to lie Yeah, and when we're talking about these things like this is what I know.

2:39:50Yeah, this is these these are the facts This is real you're being fucked you being lied to and it's not like there's not a motivation. Yeah, look at the amount of money They're making by fucking you. Yeah, I mean, it's a insane Money that's involved in a lot of these decisions. Yeah, these decisions roll on whether or not we complain or not But at least it kind of puts things in check. Maybe that's the solution. Just show how much money people are making yeah Show how much money CNN makes from the pharmaceutical industry And then you will look at every story about pharmaceuticals through that lens by Pfizer That's a genderson Cooper They do it like right in your face brought to you by Pfizer.

2:40:27That's a perfect. Let's go to a commercial. Yeah, brought to you by Pfizer You will not get this virus. You will not transmit this virus the virus stops with you and no one complains now Do you think that the people that are disseminating the information are aware of the bullshit or they are the useful idiots Meaning like I think at certain point in time they must be aware and if they're aware they're evil They're trapped. They're trapped because you I think initially most people did think that the vaccines are gonna work And it doesn't have to be vaccines. It can be anything But once you're pushing out information that you know to be false right and you're potentially hurting people Right doesn't have to be vaccines can be anything right now you're evil.

2:41:02You're that's evil. That's evil I I don't fault someone who's maybe ignorant or a useful idiot or really passionate about a thing But the person that knows right and still puts it out But you have plausible deniability because you're you're using the opinion of the air quotes experts that are sanctioned And so they will tell you things and you will say things and you will read articles that that support that and you will go Oh, this is a fact not if you're motivated by the agenda of your sponsors Like if you know that you have to have a certain opinion on the platform and that opinion is based on the people who are paying to sponsor the show Right you you are aware But that's also supported by these experts But like you know, so you know but since you're not by right since you're not an expert And you're just a talking head on CNN.

2:41:48Yeah, your job is to say But do you understand that the CDC has disagreed? Yeah, the FDA has said this is not approved The the the the NIH has shown to various studies. This is not correct And you can say that and you'd be accurate. Yeah, you would be accurate as the news person on the internet telling a lie You have your justifications you can go home and sleep at night and may a lot of them don't even do any digging They're there reading their job. They read the teleprompter They're fucking gambling on sports betting or some who knows what the fuck they're dealing with their spare time But we're just assuming these people are truth tellers.

2:42:23They're not. Yeah, we're assuming they're even journalists They're not yeah, some of them are but most of them are just talking heads Maybe people that are good at reading that's the transition that we're going through right now Is just because someone is giving us information on a news platform with a ticker does not mean that they know anything that they're talking about It doesn't mean that it's necessarily true. Not only that we are sure they are highly motivated by money. Yeah Highly motivated sponsored by money put in position by money. Yeah, the commercials. It's all money money money money money money Making that money.

2:42:54Yeah, yeah And no one's listening that's what's crazy. But isn't that a beautiful thing? It is a beautiful thing The people know and the people will seek out the information that they deemed truthful Yes, there's gonna be some wackos and seeing about to seek out the most extreme versions Yes, that's us sometimes because it's really fun I want to indulge in all the conspiracies. It's awesome But at the end of the day when I have to make a real decision right I'm gonna seek out the information right. I'm gonna read as many things as possible if it's my life on the line or my kids life on the line My friends life on the line.

2:43:22I'm gonna actually go out there and figure it out Hopefully and the thing is if it's not for a few brave people that stand up and tell you the truth How do you if it okay if there's no Peter McCullough? If there's no Robert Malone if there's no RFK junior a lot is the if there's no Pierre Corey If there's none of these people that stand up and lose like a sizable portion of their income their careers get destroyed The reputations get dragged to the mud hit pieces get written about them If it wasn't for these people that stand up and do that yeah, and I would never would have imagined In my wildest dreams that I would get sucked into that what do you mean?

2:44:00I never thought that I would get sucked into something like that where people would be like lying about me But when you watch it like on CNN just function of power dude like out lion But it's wild. Yeah, and the dumbest lie. Yeah, like pitch. Do you think I'm taking horse medicine? You don't think I know like really good doctors that are telling me what to take yeah How about the fact that I got better quick that doesn't freak you out at all? Yeah, I got better real quick Oh, you were so happy. I bet wouldn't that shit kicked? 48 hours that it was yeah, like three days later after I was sick I made that video and I was fine Yeah, three days after that I did 10 rounds on the back.

2:44:37Wow six days in I did 10 rounds in the bag I'm like let's see how I feel I worked out five days in I felt pretty good I said alright tomorrow. Let's get after it And I did 10 fucking rounds on the back full clip no problems. Yeah, no problems. No lack of energy I felt 100 % six days later. Yeah 100 % yeah, but I'm on top of my fucking health all day long all year round Yeah, I'm always in shape. I always take vitamins. I'm always eating well. Yeah, I sleep good I do a lot of things yeah, like you can't say that everyone has to adhere to the rules Of this thing when you're lying about the results you're lying about the studies You're you're influencing all these talking heads to say these things that turn out to not even be remotely true Not only that there's no studies behind it They had to admit when they were speaking in front of whatever it was in the UK That they never even tested these drugs for transmission They just tested them to see if they created the antibodies and then all that other stuff they said was bullshit Yeah, that's the tricky thing about like making rules for 300 million people is that 300 million people are not the same The way that you take care of your body is completely different than some asshole That's a consultant he's sitting as fucking desk all day wears 300 pounds and that rules it's like an SAT Like we have to find a way to judge intellect so that kids can go to school or not There's some kid who flunked the SATs who's a fucking genius.

2:46:00He's gonna go out there and make money He's bored with these things. He doesn't pay any attention. It's what you focus on. Yeah You could you could be a very smart person who doesn't study Yeah, and you take classes and you fucking bomb in your classes you suck Because you don't know what you're talking about But if you ask that dude how to fucking fix a turbocharger that dude knows how to reengineer things You know, this is the problem. It's in the valves. We have to fix the valves There's people that are genius at things that they're interested in. Yeah, but if you keep them in a classroom They're bored of shit and feed them Fucking dull ass teachers that spoon feed them shit that they're never gonna use They're not gonna they're not gonna thrive.

2:46:41Yeah Yeah, how do you create systems so that these people can thrive? Well, you gotta have freedom. That's a big one You know freedom is one of the massive factors in this country's ability to churn out innovators. Yeah There's so much freedom to do things to freedom to try things I love that it's part of the identity that we feel entitled to it. Yeah, if you restrict it I'm furious and other people are furious But that's not every country where they feel entitled to their freedom right well. That's a big thing about Texas Texas it's built into the fiber of the human beings that the established this place But that's why you need Texas you need Florida.

2:47:19I don't care if you don't like it You need somebody pulling us in that direction. Yeah, because it's gonna take L .A. Or it's gonna take New York It's gonna pull them a little bit that way when we see people party and having fun during fucking corona in Texas and in Florida We're like well, maybe we can go out to eat what's going on right? But if everybody's locked in And there's nobody else on there. I'm gonna die. You remember I remember when the governor abrid opened up things Yeah, they were like what are you doing? You're gonna kill everyone. Yeah, nope Nope, it didn't did you talk to him?

2:47:50Yeah, and Did you ask him is if he was ever scared of that decision because if that decision backfires That's his he did it based on science. Got it. It did it based on what we know about the disease, you know Protect the same thing the Florida said protect the vulnerable You know, yeah, if you are an old person with a severely compromised immune system You should get vaccinated. You should be protected. Yeah, probably isolate. It's just a brave decision There's a lot weighing on that. Yeah, well, there's a lot of people here that wanted that decision though too Especially because he's a Republican, you know Most of the Republicans wanted the businesses back open most of the people like hey What do you like you're taking away people's ability to make decisions and you're giving the government an unprecedented power that it never had before Yeah, the government the mayor's never had the ability to shut down all the restaurants Yeah, what and when they did that now, they had no effect whatsoever on their check their paycheck remained the same same no matter what yeah I think you know what you want to make fucking cities great Have it so that the mayor's salary is based on how well the city does.

2:48:52Oh Now what is a now steel man the opposition argument? Well the government would co -opt it and then the these Financial institutions would co -opt it and they would figure out a way to build businesses up unethically Disappointed the best way to make more money is to pay people less So you would have lower income wages lower minimum wages. That's where it gets tricky It's like you know you go through this in New York Especially when you have like an apartment or something like that And you got to go through all this bureaucracy when you're renovating your apartment that being said What I do to my apartment affects a person downstairs upstairs to the left to the right So we have way more rules because we need them yeah because what I do Fucks everybody else's life potentially Real holes in the wall and get a leaky fucking pipe and people try to do it.

2:49:39Oh, yeah If they know you got a drop ceiling. They're trying to drop pipes into your fucking ceiling. You don't even see it Really? Oh, this is yes all the fucking time So they're like oh, can I get access to your place and probe a wall to see something and they'll drop a fucking all their plumbing So they don't have to raise their floor There's things that they'll take advantage of their neighbor and because of that you got to create all these extra rules And it's a real fuck to go through now when you have three acres of land in You know, Texas you can build a barn without people really looking at it that much Yeah, because you're not affecting your neighbor, right?

2:50:11So I do get why in certain places you need a little bit more Of a bureaucracy because people will take advantage of each other. Yeah, so that does make sense You can't have all the same rules for all the same places. Yeah, it's not gonna work Yeah, it's not a word. Yeah, but that's one of the cool things about this country is basically like a bunch of countries Exactly like Europe like France is different the Germany, but they're all Just when they were pushed up next to each other But when they were putting it together they built it with that idea They're like hey listen if I'm up in Maine It takes me on horseback For months to get to fucking wash in DC.

2:50:44Why should your rules affect my rules right? Let me do my thing You do your thing will agree on 10 fucking rules and then let's have some fun states rights There we go. Yeah, and it makes sense. It does make sense It makes sense that you gravitate towards the places that fit with your liking which is why You're here. Yeah, psychopaths move to Portland For real Yeah, like one thing I imagine like being born there, but like willingly going. Yeah, that's my people Yeah, that's yeah, yeah, 15 face piercings you're on your way raining every day. Yeah. Oh, I want to be depressed. Yeah, let's go The Oregon trail what idiots.

2:51:21I'm looking forward to camping. Yeah Imagine coming across the whole country and fucking one of those little Covered wagons covered wagons and then getting to Portland and you're like for this. Yeah, rains every day It's beautiful though. It's gorgeous green. Yeah, good Islands gorgeous and parts of Oregon are fantastic. Yeah, you know where cam lives cam lives out in like Springfield that area Eugene. Yeah, yeah, beautiful. Yeah, beautiful. He left the thing about Oregon too. It's like you have Portland But everything else is red. Yeah, it was just like put Portland just dominates the politics That's usually out of the nation centers.

2:51:56Yeah, it's all ranchers and farmers and yeah And those cities like the liberal cities that are in the very conservative states Are a reaction to how conservative the state is so they're like the most liberal or they're generally around Education institutions. Oh, so they're built around the universities the at the university is very liberal Got it around the universities there universities affect yeah the like boulder Boulder Colorado perfect one university boulders right there. It's if I get every university Colorado Everybody's liberal right they're all hippies up there because all like the city itself sort of like revolves around the education institution So the culture of the education institution.

2:52:36Yeah, it's a culture of the city sure sure Yeah, that's why New York I think is so unique is everybody thinks they were like this super like liberal city And it's like we it's a money city. Yeah money wins in New York in the Manhattan Yeah, it's a lot of it's the financial business But if you go to Long Island, that's very red. That's I think even Manhattan is red Like all these these we're we're open when it comes to like gay stuff, right? We love our gaze They create great cultural institutions within the city you like going a Broadway you like seeing musical theater right? They offer a lot you like the art you're coming to your for art.

2:53:10They offer so much so we're like yeah those guys are dope kick it That's awesome a lot of gay chefs a lot of gay artists guys kill in New York Yeah, and they create a lot for us and we really appreciate it Yeah, it's amazing and but when it comes to actual like the rules New York is kind of conservative like we've had conservative mayors like Bloomberg wasn't some fucking like bleeding heart liberal He's a money dude right he just came in he's like, yeah, if we can't pay for it. I'll pay for you pay me back And we're like, I like this guy. This fucking Bruce Wayne right, you know, so yeah, I think the perception of New York is a little weird I didn't go any further in politics no charisma.

2:53:44Is that what it is? Yeah, New York is we don't care about charisma with what the mayors really We don't even know who our politicians are like I just found out we have a female governor I had no fucking clue that the who the governor is that he's out to lunch. I have no clue But New York is we don't care. It's the mayor of New York City is the governor of the state In our minds right right. That's the leader. We just don't like yeah, you tell you saying was going on here And that's all it matters right we're very Yeah, that's the only thing we really think about is a city. Yeah, what is it? What is it like there now with the immigrants?

2:54:15So here's the thing New York is so diverse. You can't tell immigrants are there Does that make sense right like if there's other Cities that are like really homogenous. They're all white and then all of a sudden a bunch of not white people come You're like oh my god, we got immigrants everywhere, but for a New Yorker big. I think we got some immigrants here It's impossible Right everybody's in immigrant everybody's brown everybody's black everybody's agent like there's all these different ones right the tricky thing with You're talking about the migrant crisis. Yes, is that they're taking advantage of A New York is like the biggest state in the country.

2:54:48It's like I think maybe the only big city that has a right to shelter Right, it's the only one that of this size that has a way to show it. It used to be for homeless people It's only for homeless people. Yeah, they're taking advantage of a system is built for homeless people Which is pretty fucking good if you ask me when you have the financial hub of the world You want people sleeping on the streets you go no, let's put some money so they can go inside like this And homeless people are supposed to like basically enter in and out of homelessness The idea is give them some shelter. Maybe they can get back out on their feet right The migrants hear about this and they're like what free housing?

2:55:21Let's get up there right So they're taking advantage of a system that is not for them And I think when New Yorkers have kind of learned that they're like Oh, this is this is there's something unethical about this. Yeah And I think that's where a lot of the pushback is happening But in terms of like visually being able to see it It's not something that New Yorkers notice right, we just can't the news makes it seem like it is right We see the article. Oh, this guy beats up the police or something like that But in terms of when you're walking down the street it is not detectable So unless you're near one of these places like the Roosevelt Hotel that they've converted It's the Roosevelt it's create like the one that's right across the street from From Madison Square Garden.

2:56:00Mm -hmm. You know the hotel. Yeah, I couldn't believe they converted the whole thing It's an iconic hotel. It was in that fucking Jennifer Lopez movie Oh, yeah, she worked there the maid what she's the maid. Yeah, yeah So but this is like a hotel we all know we see it after every next game It's like you can't fathom the whole hotel Yeah, so and and also that system that was set up for the homeless was already operating a capacity And then you increase the amount of migrants into the city by 50 % I think it went up 50 % in the last couple years Of course there's going to be this insane overflow and it just can't handle it nuts It just can't handle it But they're taking advantage of something that's not for them so I understand the frustration about it But is there any kind of pushback to try to stop to that 100 % what are they doing nothing?

2:56:44Oh, everybody's everybody's doing what benefits them and then the politicians are shrewd like atoms is shrewd He told the governor hopeful. I think her name is he was like he was like listen I think we're gonna have to shut down a new recruitment class for the police We don't have any more money because we got all these migrants. I mean you guys got to do something about that You got to give me some more money. He got some more money He didn't shut down anything So he got more money and now he's funding everything that he needs to fund and I don't know if anything is changing So everybody's playing politics as well.

2:57:15It's it's it's well wasn't he involved in some sort of a thing where they were giving the debit cards to the immigrants Oh, yeah legal migrants and Getting a piece. Yeah, what the hell is going on with this? Yeah, 50 is the best bro. We got a hang with we got a hang of 50 so I don't know better want so matter about the UFC He was cool shit dude. He's back in the day. I interviewed him. Wait really? Yeah, yeah for the UFC And it was real quick. It was you know like he was celebrity sitting you know cage side bro He's dude. He goes all in bro. He goes all in we hung out in Boston once and he was telling me like Oh, the stories from Queens because he was like really in that life And it was like blowing my it was like somebody explaining the godfather to you If you've never saw the movie.

2:58:01You're like this happens. This is real Yeah, just like a he's a fucking he's a fucking man. Anyway, he's never been on your show I want to get him on. I mean we just connect it for the first time when I was doing the shows up in Boston He was there. He was there as well and but I want him on this a perfect podcast. Oh dude. He he goes all in he goes all That shit on the breakfast club with him about diddy bro If bro and he's been that way forever you know that right? He's like he's like why does the guy try to take me shopping?

2:58:37Yeah And then you see when did he went on he goes he goes I just trying to be nice He goes he goes he's not even wanted some clothes. I thought he needed some clothes. That's that's like a subtle jab too That was funny but yeah, but also like what I'm going at it is just but you can fit these one of those dudes Where it's like if if you don't like you I got to hear him out. Yeah, yeah, I gotta hear him out. Yeah You he might know something right he might be on to something Yeah, he's wild. Yeah, we gotta go to dinner. Yeah, he's wild I like when they were going after him for some financial support or some like that is I'm bankrupt.

2:59:14Yeah Like I got it $400 million deal some fucking vitamin water The next fucking Instagram post got a Bentley You look He's smart. You'll play the system. Yeah, he knows how to do it. Yeah, it's hilarious. Let him write all the articles. Oh 50s broke Whatever you want whatever and he's got his dudes from day one with him still That's something I always think is really cool. Yeah, that's important. Yeah When you come back to New York, man, I don't know. I'm gonna be there for the UFC in Jersey. All right, that's in June I guess okay. I'll be there for a while. Okay, good You don't miss it at all.

2:59:53Mm -hmm any place you miss nope not a single place Now I'm not like a misser kind of like a place that you you want to go and visit places. Yeah, yeah I like visiting places, but it's like I love Texas. Yeah, I love being right here. Yeah, like right away Like right away. I was like, ooh, this is it. Yeah, it's a spot. Yeah, it's a perfect balance for me. Yeah, I love it Yeah, I really do. I don't miss I miss what LA used to be But I think we've done that and more at the mothership. Yeah, what LA was for me was my friends You know, it was the the life that I lived the the people that I You communicated with all the time and you know the comedy store And you built that out here and we built that out here.

3:00:37Yeah, and we made it even better Anything from LA that you still want to bring out Besides the joe dees that joe is in new Jersey, but joe has been coming out But he's from LA for you. Yeah, he's fell it for you But you know, Joey was sick of it before anybody was yeah, Joey was sick of it before anybody was you know When I left the comedy store in 2000 sent 2007 Joey was like good fuck that place. He was it Joey's a burn the bridge is kind of guy He doesn't give a fuck, you know, and he was the first guy to like I think he moved to Jersey early on man Like right around the time I was moving to Texas.

3:01:16He was moving to Jersey's like I'm getting the fuck out here Yeah, I was trying to get him to come out here, but he wasn't interested. He loves Jersey But I think I'll eventually come out here. There we go Yeah, he he loved it when he was here man We had him out here for three days and I'm got him out here for four 20 weekend out here nice And you know when he's out here it's like he misses the hang hang yeah, he misses being around comics Mrs the green room. I was the energy in the green room when he was phenomenal It was just such a party on fire such a party and everybody was like dude, I feel like Joey just belong there like he's he just sat down on the green room and he's like he's always been here Yeah, it kind of always has been here that sign get it together bitch.

3:01:56That's on the wall. Yeah, that's Joey That's what he always used to say. Yeah, we get ready to go on stage like get it together bitch Like it was just it was like that meant the party was about to jump off. Yeah, so To have that neon sign in the green room the spirit of Joey has always been there That's that's your last Avenger bro. You get that together. He's the Hulk. Yeah, that's fact you call him and You call him when you got a walk. Yeah, yeah And jelly man. He's been murdering on stage too. Yeah, I lost a beat last a beat. Yeah, does he go up in Jersey? He goes up goes over a couple times a week just to keep the dust off of it.

3:02:31Yeah, but when he came here He was he was tuned in really he was ready to go. Oh my god. He was hilarious. I'll tell you some of the shit He's so crazy I don't want to give up his bits, but oh my god. He's so wild. Yeah, he's so fun man He's and it's always fun. It's fun with him. Everything's fun. Yeah, everything is good times everybody gets hugs He loves you. Tells everybody loves him. Yeah, he's just he's the party. No, he's fantastic man. Yeah his stories I remember when he came on on a pod. I mean his his stories just being in Colorado those stories. Oh, yeah It's a it's a movie like you're watching a movie in your head just this MOOC Just fucking walking around Colorado taking advantage of all these Oh the trees are green He's like, I'm gonna take all of them money like it's just amazing Yeah, yeah, and the fact that he gets in the stand -up comedy and just he's just such a character man There's no there's no joy deas other than him.

3:03:28So I don't know anybody like him. Yeah Yeah, you get real lucky in this this world that we live in that you get to be Close to these exceptional human beings. Yeah, this is different. Yeah, it's different than anybody else you know You collect a lot of these guys. I've I've noticed Yeah, like a lot of your friends there They're like the they're these unique personalities, especially the non -comics But they're they're these like kind of misfits that I've noticed like even your buddy was it Tommy who plays pool Like every one of your guys that I meet like within 15 minutes They're telling me a story that like just blows my fucking mind.

3:04:06Yeah, and it's yeah, it's really interesting They're unique in their in their own right, but they are these characters that should be in movies. Yeah Yeah, yeah, it's a cultivation of extraordinary humans. Yeah, yeah Yeah, life's more fun that way. Yeah They it makes your life richer you enjoy it. Yeah, and when they win you win everybody wins. Yeah, it's all everybody's having a good time Yeah, and that's possible that can be done. Yes Yeah, it's just but you have to cultivate it and so when you cultivate a garden Yeah, and you got to root it out too. Yeah, I have some bad apples in there. Yeah, get them out.

3:04:41Yeah, gotta get them out Yeah, that's that can be tricky times. Yeah, yeah I miss Joey. I gotta call Joey. He'll be out here soon. Yeah, I got dragon mids in a city I wish he could I mean he's kind of far like you know, where's he in like Cherry Hill or something like that, right? He's in like down down there. Yeah, so he's not like a come in for an hour from the city. Yeah Yeah, that's the thing. It's an hour if he's 20 minutes then Yeah, he does a lot of Jersey rooms. So do this stress factory. Yeah, fuck around down there. Yeah, do a lot of a lot of you know Local gigs, you know, there's gigs now.

3:05:18You can there's a lot of places you could work. Yeah, just a fuck around just keep the dust off. Yeah No Yeah Yeah Yeah, him coming on was just fucking great. Yeah, we're lucky. We know all these people man We're very lucky. There's there's people out there that don't have any exceptional people in their life And they live through these conversations that we have with those people vicariously. Yeah, because those people become a part of their life too Like oh shit, shoulders on and they get excited I will say that's the cool thing about people knowing you from podcasting is that They probably know more about your life than like even some of your friends do.

3:05:53Oh, yeah Hang out with you for hours a week. So when they meet you They're meeting this person they know a lot about not this character from a TV show that is not reflective of you at all Right, you're not Ross from friends right right right Because Ross might be completely different than Ross from friends right and I can understand like why you might Resent people loving you for a character you play when you know you're not that character But if people appreciate you for what you do either and stand up or even podcasting or whatever It's like they're appreciating this thing you really care about and a true version of yourself.

3:06:28Yes, so so the love feels Uh, worth it, you know, it feels just a lot. It's very difficult to To like cast someone in an unfavorable light that people already know kid like like the human thing We try to take a distorted version of that person and say this is who they really are he talks to them Four hours a week. Yeah, they're not gonna change the way that they feel about him He also talks to other people like you or me where we're fucking around joking around you to see the real ham Yeah, you know, it's not just the distribution of information. Yeah, it's also like this is the guy. Yeah, this is who he is Yeah, he's gonna be okay.

3:07:04Oh, he's be better than ever. Yeah. Yeah, he's fine. Yeah And it's good that people see It's good that people see that he's at a position where they want to attack him Yeah, that means he's doing something good Well, it's he's a target and if you're popular and famous you're a target and if you're gonna be the the type of person It goes after those people that's like that's a dark path Not a good path and you become a target too. They they find you well, that's yeah like Yeah, what we were saying is I think it's important that when these people are writing these clearly bias hit pieces That they're also recognized for what they've done.

3:07:43Yeah And the world will see that if you put out something like this There is a cost yeah, you're not doing it with impunity. It's also there's a cost in your own mind You know what you did these motherfuckers. I don't think they care. I think they do and they don't I think they think they can do it because they're supposed to do it because that's their job But I think once the impact comes back their way they're like I don't want to pay this price Yeah, the blowback is awful and that blowback stays on you It doesn't people will google that for years to come they'll know when you write something out So I never said anything about that.

3:08:16This is yeah And then they'll dig into your past man They'll find some things that you did they'll find some people that are upset at you You know, and it's also it's just like negative energy. You're putting out negative energy people that build people up people that build People up through their own Version of reality that they're writing about and they're inspiring people and they're they're they're giving people hope and they're giving people something positive That's a great blowback the the the response to that is like this beautiful thing that everybody's helping everybody Advanced through this bizarre existence.

3:08:54Yeah, but if you're the person that's just always knocking people down always attacking You live in that negative space. Yeah, even like dude when I had that whole thing with men see you yeah Even that which I knew a had to be done. Yeah, I was one of the only people that was in a position where I could do it Yeah, and even though I did experience But I experienced a lot of blowback even career blowback I lost my agency. I got banned from the store And even me at the time who was doing well knew that like oh, this is why people don't do this because this is the real reaction To someone that's that steps up and says something about something that has to be said But even the like the negative shit that I would get is back in the I read the comments days The negative response from his fans.

3:09:42It was awful. Yeah, it was awful You don't want that in your life even though I knew it was the right thing to do I remember saying to myself like I'm not gonna get involved in one of these again. Wow. I'm done with this wow This is this is gross. Yeah, it's like you're you're at the center point of this nasty Negative thing. Yeah, and even though for the art form it was positive. Yep, like the negative Negativity negativity that I experienced even though it was overwhelmingly positive Just the small amount of negativity is not worth it. Yeah, it felt bad for a long time Didn't like it and I didn't even like all the people that were constantly and consistently attacking him I don't like it.

3:10:24I don't like any of it I don't like that every time he makes a comment like every time he posts something you steal that yeah Stoltly like you you've opened the door to the lowest Version of the vibration that humans give which is attacking breaking you down very I can kick you because you're down Yeah, and they just kick him and you know and a lot of ways he deserves it because that's what he did That was his legacy. That's what he did he stole material from comedians and created a career off of the back or other people's work And in every other business that's theft yeah, and every other business, you know You get penalized you go to court if it's music you lose all your money Yeah, and in this one for whatever reason our business people don't take intellectual copyright is nearly as seriously It's not yeah jokes or thought of is like not an important thing.

3:11:12Yeah, it's it's not like literature It's not like plagiarism. We pay the bills with this. Yeah, this is what we do and it's how we feed our families and it is creative work It's difficult to do it takes hours. It takes months. It takes years some bits takes forever to construct Yeah, to make them we just rattle them off. Yeah, there's some bits that you know They just they they require years of like hammering that steel yeah and sharpening that blade. Yeah, that's forever I think that's the best metaphor for it. It is sharpening a blade. Yeah, I'm in a way that it Yeah, and you're doing it wrong and you got to correct it and you're doing it right and you got to remember it Yeah, yeah, you got to go over the recordings you get away from the notes Step away a couple of months.

3:11:52Oh, okay Yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes, but yeah to take something somebody's work like that is infuriating But it's a it's a really interesting perspective to have for you to even look back at that and find empathy for him Oh, I definitely have empathy for him. I have empathy for everybody and in people that make horrible mistakes like like he did for so long I have empathy for him and it's a the trap that he's in because he won't admit it either is the worst That's the worst wait a minute till this day. Yeah, he won't admit it So he's trapped he's trapped in this justification that nobody believes and he tries to spin a spin a tail that nobody believes because The truth is the only thing that'll set you free yeah And the problem with those people and there's a bunch of them we know quite a few of them is there are people That start their career stealing yeah, and they do really well and they kill it and then they get exposed And then they have to write their own shit and it doesn't add up.

3:12:48Oh boy that drop off. Oh boy is that drop off substantial There are people that had initial specials that were bangers And then after that initial special everything after that is hot dog shit Now they gotta do the work now they have to do the work. They don't know how to do it They don't understand the language they're speaking. It's basically like speaking French But you don't know what the words mean. Yeah, it's like you say Polly Vouffre on say and everybody's like amazing Yeah, yeah, but you don't know what the fuck you're saying you spoke French in a movie Yeah, and they gave you all the lines and you did the lines and everybody's like this person's fluent in French And now you gotta go to Paris and walk around and people are speaking you in French Yeah, I don't understand a fucking word anybody saying the language of comedy too is something that you you The type of mindset that would make a person steal someone's bit and do it verbatim on stage Is the exact opposite mindset of a creative person because you want to do the different thing You want to do the unique thing.

3:13:44You want to have to take nobody else has right. Yes. Yes, which is the banger Yeah, you go well hold on. Yeah, what about that? Who told him that how come that just fucking stop the initial the beautiful thing about a joke is that like it always is existing right The great ones are always existing right in front of us Yeah, and we just haven't grabbed on it so exactly says it. You're like you mother Exactly. How did I not exactly? It's that that's the best feeling when someone has a bit like why didn't I think it's the best feeling Oh when someone comes up to you and goes oh my god that bit is so good and it can be simple Yeah, it can be such a simple But that requires it you you're not thinking about yourself Yeah, we're thinking about the work the thing the piece that you're working on When you're a person thinks about themselves like I'm gonna kill by saying these things Yeah, and I'm gonna get this yeah, it's you're literally like blocking creative.

3:14:37Yeah Yeah, and so then when they have to be creative. It's terrible. They just never learned. They don't they don't have to do it in the gym They don't have to lift the weights. They just don't know what it is. They're pretending they're black belts. Yeah They're out there pretending to be a black belt with all the confidence of a black belt But they got bullshit moves. Yeah, they get knocked out. Yeah, they get fucked up. No, that does happen. Yeah, and it's yeah It's like it's hilarious when you see a really bad special from a known thief Yeah, the lame some of them they'll still step on premises that they know other people have done It still sucks because they can't steal anymore the language is the best way of putting it.

3:15:13Yeah, it's like You don't understand the language of comedy. Yeah, it is a fuck and that's something I wonder like the people who start really young Like you know how like when you learn a language young yeah, you have a way greater aptitude for it And there's a fluency and a comfort within Whereas if you try to learn a language at like 40 Maybe it's just not gonna be a start like you can memorize vocabulary You can do all these things just a little bit harder for you to be like well You don't have the resources because you know like when you're 40 you have bills and family and obligations And things that are bothering you all day long.

3:15:42Yeah, when you're 15 or 12 you don't have any of those problems You have a few problems with friends. You don't have any bills foods on there's available every night You're not worrying about how that electric stays on Yeah, you're free. You know kid the internet's on. I've typed in Explore yeah, you're free You have so little resources that are being allocated to all these different things. Yeah, that when you're a person You have a family in a mortgage. Yeah, fucking business Disabilities that in neighborhood. Yeah, homeowners association. Yeah, I mean human resources at work and taxes and Yeah, you know the time to learn French.

3:16:20Yeah, you better learn it before all that. Yeah. Yeah, it's much easier if you learn it before all that Because otherwise you're just not gonna have the time to obsess about a thing and the obsession and like That the purity when you really care about the thing you're talking about Like I don't know if you've went through times in your in your snap career where like there wasn't something you wanted to share Did you ever go through stretches like nothing to talk about yeah, yeah, especially when you're young Yeah, and it's like or let there was times where like I felt like I talked about all the things Uh -huh, and I had like a strike before this last hour I was like Man, what do I want to say all right?

3:16:56I did the thing about abortion. I've done the thing about trend I did all the things and I'm like I don't want to just be grabbing at a topic. I want to really like Feel strongly about something actually be interested exactly. Yeah, and I took like a little bit of time off before actually felt Something and the funny thing is when you feel strongly about something it pours out It's not hard the jokes might not be good at at first, but you can't wait to tell them and figure them out Right try to figure out a joke you don't care about right is a job. Yeah, it's not an art That's a job But the when you care and it's fun and exciting and the stakes are fucking high and it could fuck up That I want to get on state.

3:17:35I can't wait. Yeah, give me another spot How do I want you to try to figure it out in real time? A group of people yeah, yeah, you have to listen to specific response from them. That's be humor You know, it's so funny. He's like you ever listened to a recording of like a new bit And when you were on stage doing it you're like that crushed and then when you listen back you're like oh it did okay But you were just so excited. Yes, did it worked. Yes, that the excitement changed almost the way that you interpreted the crowd And I don't know for me. I'm like oh that means I've really liked this But also that's the problem with old bits you don't get enthusiastic about it anymore And the audience doesn't feel the enthusiasm from you and you're like why is it's not working right?

3:18:13It's because you're not working because it's not math Yeah, some people are doing like word problem jokes at at its core. It's not word problem It's like those people got to connect to the way you feel about this thing exactly and they'll pick up quick Exactly Exactly and there's ways to trick the system with like mr x and all this kind of stuff Uh -huh, but if they they can feel they can sense the deep down you don't give a fuck right They're not giving it up and you got guys like like Joey is a perfect example. It's like when he's fucking rolling Yeah, he feels it. Yeah, it feels like he is equally passionate about it the first time he said it and then and you get caught up It's becoming a joke.

3:18:47Yeah, it's a noose. Yeah, it is yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he hypnotized the entire crowd to think the way Joey thinks yes Yeah, yes, that's what he's doing you're on like an emotional wavelength yes, and yeah to me that's like the That's the highest form of it. Yes, so you want to have the structure you want to have the jokes You want to have the mr x and all these things 100 % but to me I think those are almost like that's like the icing and sprinkles on the cake The cake is built with how much do I really fucking care about this position? Yes, and sometimes the position is just me being naughty or silly or absurd doesn't matter Yeah, but I got a fucking care about it right.

3:19:21Yeah, it has to be important to you. Yeah, and they feel that yeah Yeah, and those I don't know those are the bits I always remember and they can be the silliest little fucking things like little things Patrice would do about The you know the subway stopping you saw that one where like excuse me Someone's just been hit by the subway. There's gonna be a delay and he just he just stands there and all of a sudden he like Moves his sleeve to look at his watch to see how late he's gonna be to work And it's just this little tiny thing which is like that's how we would feel Like he didn't even need a punchline.

3:19:52It's just like Guys dead turn into jelly on the tracks. He's like 915 fuck. Yeah, like yeah How many of those can I make in my life? Yeah, that's to me and you always think that when you have a new bit Like this is the last new bit like I don't have anything else to say. Yeah, but you'll always have something to say You just need the time. Yeah, you need the time and need to think and again It needs to be something you're actually interested in yeah, so you have to find something you're actually interested in yeah That's the difference between thieves like that's why I don't have interest in killing themselves exactly They're interested in themselves.

3:20:29How can I succeed? Yeah, I was a weird. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, and they usually always tearing down other comedians too. Yeah, which is always ironic well because they're projecting how they feel about themselves Yeah, it's fascinating. It's fascinating But it's also fascinating that there's still a few thieves out there that have managed to like slip through and their existing Arons were all aware of them like they're this one Look at them over the face. They are more people that don't call them out then Because there's does definitely career Implications consequences. Yeah, you know like some of these people wind up being successful and they hire people That's one of the things they love to do Thieves will hire a bunch of other thieves when they got a television show and they have thieves Like a thief will hire a bunch of comedians, I should say when they get a television show and they give them work and they support them And then this is like then you have a bunch of people that will defend you like that's very common and that could because you're paying them Exactly exactly Like the thieves will go out and get a bunch of people that maybe they swipe some bits from and they put them on their television show Yeah, I know people have done that So that's their way of like paying a back for silence paying a back.

3:21:40Yeah, how can I'm not paying a back I'll give examples after the show. We don't need to be negative talk about people, but there's a bunch of that that I know But you know, there's also a bunch of people That are killing it that we know are pure yeah and Having this like amazing successful run right now because of the internet because of streaming platforms that are leaning into really good comedy and not comedy that like fits us or narrative Yeah, and I think those people If I look at the people who have in the most success right now, I think it's the people that are pure And there's a lot of that.

3:22:15Yeah, I mean, well, we can talk after but the people that I see Crushing it the people I'm looking at and I'm just like holy shit. This guy does it like shame deserves it Yeah, and he's just hilarious. Yeah, and I'm looking at these people and I'm just like That could have went a different way on a percent like it could win a really different way. Yeah, but The the the the structure was set up in a way where he had another opportunity And with his second chance demolished Anything that could have stood in his way. Yeah, and it's like okay. I look at that and I go okay There is some justice in this it's also like people are in his corner.

3:22:50Yeah, I want him to succeed. Yeah, well when you know These people want to fight for you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is a great time for comedy man Yeah, I think it might be the best time ever I really do. I think is this is the legitimately the golden age of comedy. We're in it And this is also when like Ari said it best is like comedy is dangerous now is it's fun because comedy is dangerous again Yeah, because you know like there's so Many people that want to restrict what people can and can't talk about That's that's you need. I feel like the restriction is less now really? Yeah now right now currently like in today I feel like we can kind of say anything as opposed to like two years ago two five five two years Like now you're like oh shit this joke is wild to say what's also people are wanting you to go out there They get excited like we did that diddy bit.

3:23:37Yeah, like be wanted you wanted you to go out there They're like oh he went right in there. Oh Jesus Christ I remember I got to LA daily and I was trying to like work out some like local stuff Because sometimes it's fun to just you know, you're in a city Right And I was I was at the store and I was bombing my ass off with local shit Every local joke I tried to do just fucking bomb and I was like what the fuck am I gonna talk about the forum like everything I try and I thought that they were like aware that like the city was you know in a different state than it used to be I'm trying to write all these jokes about like what's happened to the city and people in LA don't really feel the cities change that much That's like an outside perspective.

3:24:15Mm -hmm. So I'm saying it and they're kind of laughing But they're like or they're aware and they don't want to admit it right and I remember we just I was just in the green room. I'm just like fuck him. Maybe the joke is about diddy That's the only thing everybody's talking but that's that's what's on our mind. Yeah, that's what's happening Yeah, and then bro. This is how funny 50 is I'll share this Ah Yeah, I'll tell you the full thing after but I okay. I got face time From 50 and he's like he's like yo next time He goes he goes he goes yo next time I come see you bro. I'm gonna come out on stage with a multi -scan I Like bro you the craziest motherfucker imagine him walking out on the show Ped the fucking cat.

3:25:07So do you what do you think was going on with who me? Meek and diddy I don't think I don't think meek's gay. I don't think anything's happened with them I think that was just like a funny rumor that happened I even said that when I first did the meek joke. I was like I don't think he's gay He just handled the accusations poorly. Yes, like he just handled it. I love pussy That's the gayest thing. Yeah, it's okay, but I don't think he's gay, but uh Yeah, but that's just a unsophisticated approach to PR. Yeah, like his PR teams probably like hey, maybe don't Gotta do something. Yeah. Yeah, who knows me.

3:25:40He's probably not consulting with anybody. Yeah, I had a guess Nobody consults with you when something happens. You just post whatever you want. Yeah, I don't have like a team. Yeah telling me Don't say that before the podcast That would be a problem. Yeah, it would think. Yeah, I would have never gotten anywhere. Yes Yeah, yeah, we need you to not have a team actually. Yeah, it's actually kind of important You don't have a bunch of people you consult with them about what could be dangerous? Because then who who controls them? What are their intentions? Exactly. And what are they what are they doing this based on?

3:26:09You know self -preservation? Yeah Yeah, it's uh, it's just wild that apparently he had cameras in every room of his house That's what they're saying. Is that been verified? I don't think it's been verified. I think like the Epstein shit It never will be Now I'm not saying that he's like Epstein You know, I think that he could have some fucking wild parties and cetera, but if he's filming everybody If he's filming everybody, I understand why Hummer showed up to the house because people who went to the parties were like get those Fucking things hundreds of hidden cameras discovered in ditty's homes lawsuit says.

3:26:43Oh, well then it's yeah, it's a wrap done Hundreds yeah, you will never see any of that footage. This dude had hundreds of cameras. That is so crazy Because if he's doing wild shit a court filing Jones said he work with combs between September 22nd and To September of 2022 and September of 2023 to produce the rapper's most recent release So he said hundreds of cameras in his homes in LA, New York and Miami and did he like to throw the parties like he would throw the white party Do you know, but who's he have taken care of that footage? I mean You know you can get people Wow You know powerful dude These are powerful dude and I think he really enjoy the crazy the the underage people implicating people in crimes by by bringing underage people to them And wait, what does that mean?

3:27:30That was the whole thing about the Epstein place is that like if you've got underage girls And you don't tell these guys these are underage girls and then the get them drugged up get them drunk give him coke Whatever it is and then film them Yep, well, they don't even know so they don't know that they're committing acts of pedophilia could be or could be They do know and they think it's safe to do it because this guy's protecting them But meanwhile they're just coked up and they're getting filmed. Yeah, you know, which is also the the theory yeah But it is you got to When someone becomes When someone becomes like a wild billionaire character.

3:28:12Yeah, you're like well, where's the pussy? Yeah, where's the shit that I got rich for imagine you went to the I was all the fun. Yeah, I need to look how do I get the fun? And then someone comes along like you need to get connected My friend Jeffrey Epstein he takes care of everything and he brings the fun And so you just keep flying to hang out with them And so that's your party and you can't go to Vegas and go to Dres and Pick up hose and get crazy and bring them back to your suite with coke and people talk too much So so here's the thing it's like these tech guys have made all this money right right they made all this money They're hanging out in Miami or wherever they're hanging uh -huh and They're like I'm a billionaire now Why am I not getting pussy?

3:28:52I got to connect with some people that can make me the man I thought I'd be the man now that I bet I bet in like the CEO world And in that world of country clubs and in fucking scullin bones There's dudes who know how to get the hookers. Oh, here's the thing. It's not even the scullin bones guys Right, that's like old wasps shit right. I'm talking about the nerd from Silicon Valley The nerds no prostitutes so the nerds have coke. It's not even the nerds. They have a guy who's it's their job to throw the parties It's the fish now You know like these like jet -setter crews my boy was explaining how this thing works to me They have these like events around the globe that like wealthy people go like Davos Not even not even Davos more just like a New York fashion week in the US open all happens around labor day in New York, right?

3:29:37So everybody who like comes from money and all these like you know Rich socialite people from around the world. They all come to New York for that week, right? And they go to the nice parties and they do all the things Tech bros or the crypto bros want to be included in that cool thing right How do they be included they got to throw the best party How do you make the best party you have to have all the models You have to have the cool people right they don't know any of those right so you get the fixer The fixers get paid crazy money from the tech bros or crypto bros because they want in on this thing And you develop a reputation and being the guy who puts on the crazy bashes now right once you have that reputation They think they're in all these other people who are like the socialite people who come from tons of money and their parents are Lords and shit they look at them like oh, you're paying a play.

3:30:25It's a bringer show for comedy You're not really selling out carolines you did the bringers right but they don't know that so they're like yeah We're all partying we're doing the thing so there's this whole Economy that they've kind of like feasts off these people who just have money But here's the thing those people are doing the fixers. They got the models to show up these models Are curating their Instagram by going to these parties around the world sometimes they're in paid to go to the parties I imagine the models that are more fun in other words They get a little loose they like to party and then like to fuck a little bit they get invited more Yeah, ones that are less fun.

3:31:02Maybe a little bit more tight. They don't fuck they don't get invited as much So you don't even have to say oh you got to fuck these guys You just want to know if you want to get invited to this nice party in Switzerland right? You know what kind of and you start doing a little blows start doing a little Molly That's what you like to do in the first place And then you get to party on yachts and you're hanging out with all these guys and maybe even pay you Well, they are paying. Yeah, and everybody's fucking say it's a lot of money Like you know the salt no brinise deal. What is it? Oh my god salt no brinise He would he had his own nightclub Maybe he still does okay, so he had his own night.

3:31:36He has like 500 Ferrari's like these guys have His sane amounts of money because it's not it's not public. Yeah, right? So they don't have to be like the world's richest man Exactly, yeah, yeah, but the richer than everybody yeah, yeah, they have trillions And so he had his own nightclub And so what he would do is he would pay actresses he would find these girls get me her and he would get these gals and give them Exorbitant amounts of money to come and then he would have a nightclub Where it was only him and he would go down there and it's filled with gorgeous women And he would go down there and just go you come with me and then they go fucking party And they were making a lot of money and one of them was right to book And so she had a laptop and she was like documenting what they confiscated her laptop and then she went back to America That she spilled the beans and she ratted out all the other girls that were doing it and kind of fucked up the whole thing Because like a list people that we're getting shit tons of money this thing to go over there We know yeah, my I would say a list but no, no, no, people that you know Yeah, there's like people you know of And if you go there you get millions of dollars, but like this lady had gotten millions of dollars and jewelry from him There's a service That apparently That we're like I love that word.

3:32:52Yeah, apparently right allegedly billionaires can fuck like sports illustrative models and shit Like Victoria's secret chicks chicks that we've seen And it's costs a lot of money and they do it because it's like hey, it's easier than you know going to do these shoes And they don't want to tell anybody that they did it They don't and also get no fuck billionaires and I fucking some random crack head right they're gonna already fuck the billionaires So it might as well make some fucking money doing it and it exists now and you know about this allegedly allegedly I may know people who have Prataken so it's like and they can exist bang like cover of maximum.

3:33:25I don't know the cover I don't know what's going on Just some hot ladies that you are aware of but they're not just hot chicks that come from Russia, right? We're talking about famous people that you would never think would even need to do that right Just some these are like the ecosystems that exist out there Well, it makes sense if you're worth 200 billion dollars and you give some random billion dollars To fuck you that is nothing you make that in five minutes. So I'll never know I spend okay in two 2001 Jeffrey was forced to auction off his personal possessions after using the country as a piggy bank Spending an average of seven hundred forty seven thousand dollars a day for ten years on top of the seventeen billion in gifts To friends and family the sultanese true vulgarity was exposed His brother also treats the company as in the country as an ATM and it remains a crime in Brunei for anyone to ever discuss How the royals spend their money when you don't work for your money.

3:34:21How can you value it? Like if it just comes right out the ground Like how do you really think? Bro, I was gonna spend how much was he spending today? That was a massive That's okay. He lives in a palace with 1 ,788 rooms 257 bathrooms five swimming pools a mosque a banquet hall that holds 5 ,000 people and a 110 car garage when he turned 50 the sultan built a stadium and vital Invited Mac Michael Jackson to perform in it and paid him 17 million dollars for three concerts Jeffrey 59 maintains a separate pleasure palace and once owned a 150 foot yacht called the tits Called the yacht tits nice He named his fenders nipple one and nipple two love it And he never understand why others found that juvenile and crass Here in a broad the brothers are infamous for their sex parties and their heroms composed mainly of underage girls Yeah, it's crazy wow Wild Bro that that amount of money that you're spending yeah, that is so crazy three billion dollars Plus but that doesn't that's I said it didn't include the 17 billion dollars that he was giving out to people Wow Michael Jackson thing for his birthday.

3:35:35Yeah, okay, okay. That didn't ball and son But yeah, these these fucking things exist all over the place crazy and it's the easiest money that these girls will ever make Crazy yeah Yeah, well and it's so if you've got that much money it doesn't mean anything it doesn't mean anything They like it on fire and the money's coming every day. It's just stacking up giving someone a million dollars to fuck And the girls probably wait a million dollars is regular sex You're not gonna show me He's not gonna give you a Cincinnati top hat Yo, I was asking Because when I was out there in Abu Dhabi is like I'm trying to understand some of the cultural New ounces, but I added joke about but I was asking about the Dubai shit Did I ever did you send me that?

3:36:28That are you send me the good I did a joke out there yeah, yeah, yeah, and But they told me that the Burj Khalifa has a separate sewage system because it wasn't connected to the sewage system of Dubai So they have these poop trucks that take the poop out right and the joke I said it was like well, that's why they have to shit on the hookers chest because it's not connected to the plumbing right and But they they were telling me like these interesting cultural things that happen out there like Like with with the license plates have you heard about this? Yes, where they The lower the number the more expensive it is yeah, crazy expensive.

3:36:57Yeah, millions of dollars for a number three license plate I'm like, why is that and one of the the kids who's from the world family goes He goes you have to understand like when everybody has a Gwagon or Range Rover It is not a big deal to have a Gwagon or Range Rover right and people have this need To show off yeah, but if everybody got the expensive shit. Yeah, how else can you flex right License plate. Yeah, wild also crime over there almost nonexistent. Yeah Go to Dubai and commit a crime see how that goes yeah, I will do I mean commit a crime they've compartmentalized Society but yeah, they're strict, but it's also like That anybody there who's working has been there's it there's a working class of people who do not really operate Outside of working within the system right and then everybody else there who's not part of the working class has money So why would you commit crime?

3:37:46There's also the the jevously the vice documentary on some of the people that built Dubai No, so some of the contractors what they would do is they would go to third world countries They'd promise people absorb it in amounts of money to go over and work construction Then they bring them over to Dubai and then take their passports And then force them to live in squalor give them a fraction of what they paid and they're basically in indentured service Yeah, so this the working system is I don't know how different it is from that even today But basically like you work there for 11 months you get one month off you get paid Very little money.

3:38:17It's not enough money for upward mobility while you're there you are working Just to work and then send money back home to your family wherever it is you never will become part of society So they have really curated a system where those people have no upward mobility Now I imagine the advantage of that is there's no crime Because because everybody who's poor there is working and they know their place they're they're in danger It's not simple. It's not like you just get away from destiny poverty where your family would die So they're like yeah, we're giving you an opportunity these people like well if I fuck up here my whole family dies back home Or my whole family starves or my whole family is gonna go through some horrible situation So I'm the lifeline for my family So they are taking advantage of that desperation.

3:39:01Yeah 100 % But yeah, I guess what they would dictate They would say the benefit of that is is no crime But there is a social cost of that there is a subclass of people that are there There's always going to be a social class when you a social cost when you have monarchies Yeah, yeah Yeah, and then you have people with the exorbitant wealth and all the power And then you know some of them turn bad like a Saddam Hussein and his sons Yeah, which were famously some of the most evil motherfuckers that ever existed Yeah, I mean they would feed women to dogs They would find women that were getting married steal the woman from the marriage Raper and then feed her to dogs Jesus Christ.

3:39:41Yeah, man Uday and Kusei they there's been Many tales written about how evil they were they were like that is also legitimate serial killers That's the risk of the monarchy right? Yeah, you don't know if that egg that comes out as good Well, it's also like having a child that grows up with total complete power. Yeah, you're gonna have a jaffrey You know, I mean sometimes that's the archetype, but maybe you get a what is the guy did everybody thinks said everything great Yeah, exactly. I don't know. I did a lot of psychedelics really yeah. Yeah, it was a part of the Illusinian mysteries Yeah, I didn't know that yeah, it was a part of that whole Greek Illusinian mysteries thing.

3:40:19Yeah Yeah, he was involved in those ceremonies. Yeah, there's there's a lot of speculation that ancient Greek society is specifically From Brian Merer rescue's work. Do you ever talk to him? No, but I read some stuff about there are some there's certain plants that grow that elicited the same uh chemical compounds as DMT or LSD or LSD Well, there's a bunch of different ones that do like all kinds of different psychoactive ones But they've they've absolutely found definitive proof of the use of Urgot and Urgot is a fungus that gives people the same sort of psychedelic Experiences LSD Urgot Urgot.

3:40:58Yeah, it's a fungus. It's also fungus that they connect with the sale in which trials like a mushroom Yeah, it's like yeah, it's like it's it's a fungus that grows on wheat and that fungus is it can be toxic for some people You can kill them at certain doses, but it also imparts an LSD effect and they found Urgot in some of the wine vessels So they were taken without even knowing no, they were taken it on purpose. Oh What is this a heroic Greek potion? They got was in this drink the kikion. Yeah, that's what they called it this this drink And so they believed this drink contained a mixture of a bunch of different psycho Psychedelic compounds One of its for sure they know is Urgot, but there's a few other ones that I can't remember that they they know we're in there as well And they found this from studying the these ancient pottery vessels.

3:41:45I just yeah your saucer Looks like a mushroom. Is that on purpose? I don't think so But it could but if your whole ideas, you know that the saucers and mushrooms do have a lot of similarities But the stone dave theories if the mushrooms that took us to the next level and now we have the aliens taking us to the next level It might be the aliens brought us the mushrooms. There we go. Who knows anyway, but yeah, this is crazy So then he was taking all that and that's what I was wisdom people that's why he was so but beyond wise And he also believed in forgiveness even forgiveness of his enemies. He's a Roman emperor No, he was he was very compassionate.

3:42:19He has all these great quotes I guess what I assume is like in the same way that somebody is writing Obama speeches People were writing his stuff So I imagine that His stoicisms or whatever are the collection of the greatest ideas of the time and the way to disseminate that information is to be like Oh, it's from the emperor. It's from the top boss part of it But meditations I don't believe was ever written with the intent of it being distributed Oh, so they just found this Fun I'll find that out. I think that's not trying to discredit him I'm just saying no I know saying well for sure definitely he did I mean everybody at any point in time has the information of the greatest minds they've encountered Einstein was talking to other great people and then he might have the greatest mind But he's still able to yeah, it's a collaborative effort.

3:43:00Yeah, including with philosophy and certainly back then But you know this guy this one guy his experiences to this day they resonate you read your meditations today Like oh, this is a guidebook to how to live your life in a better way. Yeah, and it's rare that you would have someone in his circumstance where he was raised to be king Exactly then he would be successful Yeah, and you know and then his son turns out to be a cunt But then they say that was because of the lead pipes or something like that I'm sure that had something to do with it. There was something about like I was really was it Nero Who was the there was one emperor that just went crazy and They said is he wasn't raised in the castle who wasn't raised in the forum or whatever the fuck it was And then when he moved there and he started consuming the water from the lead pipes That they started to work his brain and then he went more and more crazy throughout I mean, this is what some tour guide told him makes it all but yeah, they didn't know what lead did Yeah, no fun.

3:43:51They were stoked to have pipes. George Washington's teeth were made with lead. Yeah, you know That's that Shane Gillis is a great bit. It's a fucking banger of a bit. I love that bit But that's true. Yeah, the literal mold that his teeth were fitted into his lead. He carried lead in his mouth all day Snuts wild boy wild boy. Yeah, but the country is founded by wild crazy Crazy mother fucker to found a country Yeah, it's not like the most same thing to be like yeah, let's just thwart the whole system do something completely different We'll do it on our own not only that but have this failsafe method that exists today to keep someone from becoming a tyrant Oh to relinquish the power.

3:44:29Yeah, that was the greatest thing Yeah, I think that might have been the greatest thing a leader has ever done. Yeah To set in motion this idea That you're not gonna maintain this power after you have it. Yeah, no one can what a fucking Pretty amazing. Did they have the foresight? Did he write about it at all like I Like is there a moment where he regretted it two months later. He's like man. I should have kept that shit Like he's gonna deal with a parking ticket or something. He's like After he gets out of office. Yeah, I could put my horse here Yeah I mean, I didn't have someone tried to form a country today how quick they put the kabasha on that I mean it happens all the time Yeah, but if somebody like Went to some new like Greenland or something just said we're gonna set up shop here.

3:45:13Yeah, the powers of ego no No, I don't do you gonna have weapons. Yeah, what fuck that you're gonna make an army? Yeah fuck out of here We're gonna find a reason why you guys are whatever you are Yeah, I think you're racist. Yeah, whatever the fuck you are Yeah, we're going over there. Yeah, we gotta stop this Yeah, we got to figure out a way to invade. When are we gonna take Greenland or he or buy it wasn't Trump talking about by any see you made a tweet I promise I won't do this and he had like a giant trump tower there that said Trump on this hill But it sounded like a cool acquisition. Yeah, like don't they have all these minerals and stuff and there's all this great Also, if the world does warm up, that's a good spot to go to Ah Yeah, you know throughout history when the world's got colder and warmer people moved away from the place we can't live in Yeah, yeah, we go to the places where he can live.

3:46:02So we got a nice little fail safe. Yeah, well something imagine Well, something we're just all in Greenland with there was discussions about Trump buying Greenland. Yeah Because it's got a lot of I don't know. Why didn't that happen? I think Greenland shut it down.

3:46:22Isn't Yeah, come on. Are you sure I just didn't get the right offer that might be the offer Yeah, but we've made some good deals like that fucking Louisiana purchase was a good deal What a crazy deal. I mean how about Alaska? That's a crazy. Yeah, Alaska was nuts since 1860s 79 states considered or made several per per proposals to purchase the island of Greenland from Denmark From Denmark who did it with the Danish West Indies in 1917 while Greenland remains an autonomous territory within the kingdom of Denmark a Treaty gives the United States much control over an island once partially claimed from exploration This gotta be all kinds of shit up to they could use.

3:47:03Yeah, what do you think about Antarctica? Well, did you ever see that one guy that was on the Sean Ryan show that claims that there's like a direct energy weapon Yeah, out of Antarctica boy that guy seems overconfident Yeah, he knows what he's talking about. He's a fireman. He's not a scientist. I'd access to everything Yeah, there's something about that that doesn't sit right with me, but I don't know and also You know it just It's so hard unless you have Evidence like unless you could show that they could turn this thing on right and what is it? It's a new Trino detector that also can be used as a directed energy weapon.

3:47:41That's it directed energy weapons This is what they're saying. Yeah, I mean listen That's a that's a concept that existed for a long time. I'm sure they probably have something like that. Yeah They definitely have things that were just theoretical. I want they have a rail gun now and this rail gun can go through multiple Layers of steel have ever seen the rail gun in operation. No, it's crazy Railguns like from Quake this this thing sends this bolt through like I think they did like 10 giant steel plates in a row And it just went through all of them like it was hot butter, but is it a laser? What is the material?

3:48:18It's actually going I don't know exactly how it works So this is the thing so this is this is the rail that is this bolt going through all this steel Jesus Look at this it just goes through everything Doosh goes through all that shit, so what's that? Look at it going through it Just going through everything man look at that I mean, it's like total science fiction star wars type shit. Yeah, so they've got some wild shit And I guarantee they're working on direct energy weapons as well Now what they've been able to accomplish versus what is theoretical? That's the real question And if it did exist if there was a direct energy weapon would they tell us?

3:49:00I don't think they would know Why would they tell us no? I mean it gets the conspiracies out there get wild like there's pyramids there Yeah, you see now and I'm sure yeah But if you also start digging they say nobody can like dig under the ice like don't mess with the ice out there I think there's like a treaty across all like countries that have some How like taken a part acclaimed a part of Antarctica But I think the tricky thing is like if you start digging and you find Animal remains Like humans tend to follow animals wherever they go. Yeah, so are we gonna find some humans over there And then how does that distort historical timeline?

3:49:32We find a spaceship down there. Oh, no Well, that was the thing one of the things that Lazar said is that one of the vehicles was a part of an archeological dig But not found it in an archaeological dig, but not in Antarctica No, it didn't say where he didn't say where he didn't say where But he said one of the ships they recovered from an archeological dig and they think these things have been around for a long long long time So that people that work with them Like Danik Pasalka who wrote what it was it encounters She said that they refer to them as donations these crashed UFOs. They don't even necessarily think of them as crashed They think they kind of like let it crash They're donations for us to back engineer That we're supposed to take them and go figure this out And that this is something that helps our technological evolution And there's a lot of people to point to like the creation of fiber optics that it all kind of happened right after Roswell And that there's there's these descriptions of fiber optics that existed in this the crafts they found at Roswell So they're looking at us like we're looking at the orangutane.

3:50:35Yeah, here's a stick. Yeah, we figure it out Go fish with that stick. Yeah Well I mean that would be a good way to accelerate technologies to just introduce something to them and go back engineer that yeah figure that out Amazing how we do it now. Yeah. Well, that's what was our had said they were doing with him in a row 51 Yeah, and s4 he was saying but they didn't know exactly how these things worked They didn't know how to recreate it and they wouldn't let the scientists talk to other scientists Yeah, he's like science doesn't exist in a vacuum like that You need a collaborative effort of a bunch of different people and the also different scientists They were working on the thing weren't allowed to talk to each other.

3:51:13That's a military thing right? Yes, exactly a compartmentalization thing. Yeah, yeah for top -secret clearance. Yeah, but he was The guy that was saying that they were also telling him that we are of farm of souls. Yeah And that's is the thing that the people that know about It say you can't tell people because they would freak out. They'd be riots in the streets I mean that was just someone just recently said something like that. It was one of the recent conversations between some top official They're saying if people if real disclosure happened and people knew exactly what was going on there'd be riots He would be freaking out.

3:51:47I think we'd be okay now Who knows I think we'd be alright. We found out that we really are just vessels for souls and that we're being farmed By some super intelligent species that we will eventually become The farm thing is tricky But that we're we're being groomed Yeah to become the super intelligent species and it takes time and we have to get there slowly. Yeah That makes sense I like it there. Yeah, that tracks that you would just kind of let us figure it out and let us go Just in the right direction. Yeah, and that the aliens would show up once we started detonating nukes because it's like That's a different direction.

3:52:26Yeah, okay guys stop that don't do that anymore. Yeah, yeah And we do all your nonsense and do all your regular conventional warfare, but as soon as you start going atomic, we're gonna start talking Yeah We're gonna let you know you're not the boss quite benevolent these aliens, huh? Well also maybe recognize that this process has to take place and you can't hold their hand, you know Teach a man to fish. He'll fish for the rest of his life. Yeah, give him out of fish eats for a day. Yeah. Yeah Teach him you might meet him one day. Joe Yeah, you might meet him one day. I might already out of me.

3:53:02Don't believe me. I'll lie So one thing I'll lie about I don't lie about anything. I will lie to everybody about that. Joe's already been on that means he's already nothing I don't know shit. I think it's all fake. It's all Russian propaganda We need to support Ukraine I Me well as fucking things in this room with us right now Observing from other dimensions. Yeah, just making sure we're on the general path Towards technological progression, which is what eventually gives birth to it So they're there us. Yeah, but they're whatever intelligent species eventually becomes because but they're basically on a on a further timeline Yeah, yeah, they're influencing their own timeline.

3:53:48They're influencing a similar species to evolve to hit their level of technological They feel like that is their Their duty. I think that's just what happens. Yeah, that's probably what happens in the universe, you know Yeah, I mean look would we go to visit primitive societies? Yeah, we bring the wells. Oh, that's true Creating electricity for them. We teach them how to farm. Yeah, so we do Which is to make sense that they would do that especially if they're it beyond advanced. Yeah, incomprehensibly more advanced than we are They would slowly help us do it right. Yeah, and stop us from making catastrophic errors and we're fun We're like dogs in a way like dogs and fight you want to teach them how to send and shit outside also like look at them Go.

3:54:35Yeah, look at these people create some good stuff. Yeah, we're gonna make it drones and shit. Yeah, wild. Yeah Look what they're doing rail guns and shit look at these psychos hypersonic jets Yeah, look at them go and still cage fighting. Yeah, yeah, we got it all we got the whole space. Yeah, yeah, yeah Slap fighting Slap fighting is like that's the bottom when that comes on to the aliens desk with their dude what Slap they can't defend each other they have to stand there. Yeah, do they know about brain damage? Oh, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, the people that hosted also host MMA They know everything about it.

3:55:12They know everything about brain damage And they just lay and look sign up at the dotted line you can ride a bull you can fucking dirt bike ride you get slapped Yeah, you can do whatever you want in this country. Yes. Yeah Yeah, yeah, that's probably what the aliens like Jesus Christ. They probably look at slap fighting go. Oh my god Yeah, so I'm gonna try to tell them not to do that. Yeah, yeah Yeah, America's like the way that we look at Trump. They look at America You know what I mean? We're like like the guy's fucking crazy, but he's funny as hell right that's them They're just looking at us like they invented what yeah, yeah, what about just psychos?

3:55:46Yeah, yeah, and maybe all Advancing civilizations or psychos maybe they all eventually have to become integrated with technology to escape The boundaries and the the like the walls that are set up by their biology Yeah Because your biology has allowed you through in a natural environment to achieve a place where you could be detached from the natural environment with cities and buildings and structures and electricity and power and technology and weapons and weapons that allow soft Fleshy water balloons filled with blood to go out there and kill grizzly bears from a hundred yards boom And you stay next to them.

3:56:24Look at me. Look at what I did You know, it's it's wild, but it seems like That is the only way you get to be Sophisticated enough to create technology. Yeah, you have to have controlled your environment enough where you've stopped all the enemies Stopped all the predators. Yeah, yeah Like in order to build those pyramids you need a long time of safety. Yeah You can't build them is at the same time that you're at war right you're being attacked There's famine. There's no water right you need long Thousand of years. Thousand of safe yeah and food and abundance and then you need a thing for people to do so they don't kill each other Keep them busy.

3:57:02Yep. Keep them busy Keep them from fighting over power. Yeah. Yeah. What if it was that simple? Who knows what it was with those folks because I think they were probably more sophisticated than we are today It's just the only thing that makes sense to me that they they were able to get these Multiple tonne stones down from the mountains with no road system That's the true that the tricky was that the Oswan Valley that they got the Stones from for the pyramids and geese that is a really tricky It's all tricky. Think it can some of them were from 500 miles away. Yeah, they're 80 tons They fucking they got them out of the mountains.

3:57:39They moved them down. They cut them perfectly What did they do how they do it what are the machines? Yeah, what was the technology? Was it no technology really are you sure is it just based on what our our understanding currently of what happened Years ago, which is like not that good. Yeah, no, we have like a piecemeal understanding like a very like Just my new understanding of what was possible back then based on the evidence of the result of what was possible Which is the the pyramids which is bananas and we're also trying to explain it with theories that we've kind of Accepted to be fact that are really not that much like this idea that it was all done with like the chisels and stones I don't necessarily subscribe to that.

3:58:23Yes, those who yeah all they would have to do is find one piece of machinery That didn't exist before they could understand and they found things before that they didn't know existed And they couldn't understand like what is that mechanism the anti -theric? What is it called there was a computer that they found this computer in gears? It was in a Roman ship that it sank The bottom the ocean. Yeah, was the Antichythra Antichythra met a mechanism. Yeah, so this thing It's It's an ancient Greek go back to that please so I could read that it's an ancient Greek hand -powered Orary a model of the solar system Described as the oldest known example of an analog computer It's used to predict astronomical positions and eclipses decades in advance It also could also be used to track the four -year cycle of Antithetic games So athlete give me a little larger athletic games simpler to the Olympiad The cycle of the ancient Olympic games the the artifact was among the record retrieve from a shipwreck off the coast of the Greek island of Antichythra Antichythra How do you say it?

3:59:41Antichythra Antichythra in 1901 in 1902 was identified by archaeologists Valerios Steyas as Containing a gear the device house in the remains of a wooden frame case of uncertain overall size 34 centimeters by 18 centimeters by nine centimeters Was found as one lump later separated into three main fragments which are now divided into 82 separate fragments After conservation efforts for these fragments contained gears while inscriptions are found on many others the largest gears about 13 centimeters in diameter and originally had 223 teeth all these fragments of the mechanisms are kept in national archaeological museum and Athens Along with the reconstructions and replicas to demonstrate how it may have looked and worked see You can find what the replica of what it looked like But you know so they had to sort of like Figure out what how the fuck did they do this like how did they know this?

4:00:42What's involved in this like and was this ancient technology that existed like a long time ago that they had Preserved and held on to like what was the when was the creation of that thing? So there's things that we know that we didn't think that they could do yeah that Sort of really throw a monkey wrench to our understanding yeah Yeah That's just one that's just one that they found I mean there could have been stuff from thousands of years before that that just doesn't exist anymore You know you deal with erosion you deal with time especially over thousands of years 12 ,000 years Boy you have nothing left.

4:01:23There's no evidence of whatever these machines were it would be interesting to study like What happened to technology during the medieval Age what is it called? Uh, what is it during the black plague or what was it called medieval ages? Was that the term yeah, but during the plague during the plague right where Was there an erosion of intellectual property? Right because you were dying off right people are dying off and do the physicist die like who's we always talking about this What happened when all the physicists died right happened when all the scientists died So was there an erosion was there a step back in our ability to create things during that period And if there was something that was even worse than that that happened throughout history i .e Like a asteroid or something in the earth Well that erosion would just be 10 times worse 100 times or I'd like to look into that yeah Because you still see great works of art that happened during the mid eight mid was it where am is it medieval medieval ages?

4:02:17Yeah, uh you see these great cathedrals go up so there's still where I would imagine They were maintaining their ability to create these great structures right, but they had to be a dip in productivity So let's see what that dip is and then multiply it by the catastrophe right Well, I think people were just like knocked back into the stone age I think that's probably what happened that makes sense That's why you see the the emergence of written language and And uh all these different things from Mesopotamia like that six thousand years later Yeah, after the impacts probably so it took that amount of time yeah to recover Yeah, and build back the knowledge set and keep in mind like the knowledge set isn't maintained with the efficiency that we have it now right like you get a couple books that get destroyed and there is physics gone Kind of the library of Alexandria right burn the library of Alexandria Like everybody's like what happened yeah the knowledge take a guess yeah, yeah, how they build the shit?

4:03:16We've burned it sorry. Yeah, it is vulnerable. Yeah, we take for granted. It is incredibly vulnerable. Oh man We're even more vulnerable now because everything's on hard drives You know, so all it takes is the power going off and we're fucked yeah And how long would it take for the power gets back on boy asteroid impacts kills the whole grid Everyone's knocked into the stone age for a couple hundred years. Yeah, bro. You ain't getting into them hard drives Yeah, you're never gonna figure it out And although the hard drives are rot They're the moisture in the air the erosion. They'll slowly evaporate Yeah, and if somebody handed you a hard drive 2000 years later you would just think it was a piece of plastic.

4:03:57Yeah, you have no clue that all be a lump How about that thing that that was just all we don't know what the fuck that was all corroded and fucked up They don't know what it is. There's only one they've ever found. I think I'm reading yeah I mean how many of them were there? It wasn't the only one. Yeah, they probably had a bunch of them They probably haven't even better ones that's the question they're saying like what if it was the only one? It's a mystery baby. We love it. It's a fun time. Oh, it's a It's a fun time to be alive as chaotic as it is. This is a really fun time to be alive. Amen.

4:04:26All right my brother I love you to death. Love you to the man. Thank you. Thanks being here. Oh, man. I'm so happy to see you killing it It's beautiful to watch your every crushing it. Come on man. Appreciate you're on top of it. I love it. Thank you All right, um anything to tell anybody I'll go check out you know if you want to come check out the tour that be great life tour We're coming Austin actually when he coming uh April 16th I think or something like that doing the moody nice. Yeah, beautiful. So beautiful That'd be awesome come out all right. Thank you someone. I brought thank you. Bye everyone