#2142 - Christopher Dunn

44:48What do you say? began at the 12th century BC in India Anatolia or the Caucasus iron used in smelting and forging for tools appeared in sub -Saharan Africa by 1200 BC so It could be that um these pharaohs that the the one that had the iron Dagger made out of a meteorite maybe that was later. Yeah, absolutely Yeah, two tongue common. Okay, so for sure it was look at that meteoric iron dagger. Wow So that's 1334 to 1325 BC interesting Well, that's earlier That's earlier than they said people were smelting Yeah, but they found it. I don't know when they made it Yeah, but that's different But that but if it's too tongue common that's his time.

45:33Yeah, but that iron came from mouth space Right, but so they could have hammered it into that position. Yeah, it's melted um So we know they're aware of it at least at least at this at 1300 BC We know they're aware of iron But there's just no evidence of tools. Yeah, I mean, I I can't I wouldn't I wouldn't say I don't know if they knew what the metallurgy of these materials that they found but Yet they had a material that they could shape and they shaped it into a dagger But we don't know if they shaped it into tools or shaped it into some other things as the iron plate right here It says it was unlikely that it was a byproduct of copper smelting operations It was badly corroded the outer layer of the iron have been badly corroded and now forms of standard iron oxide significant proportions of gold were found in one of the oxidized layers And the plate may originally have been gold plated new data come coupled with the original archaeological information Stronglings suggest the iron plate is contemporary with the building of the pyramid and that it is therefore one of the oldest known pieces of iron Yeah, I think patreon described it as having a new malice that had Somehow been deposited on the surface.

46:54So at least that's some evidence of iron Right, but you know, sorry what iron was it smelted right? You know, it's the question Did they have the capability of doing that and when right and when right right? So So the so it's just pure speculation as to what they use for the core What is the conventional thought as to how they made these vases? um, I mean there are So there are demonstrations of crafting ancient ancient vases But I think This this recent research and the discovery of the precision of them which it always been a question mark until just recently People were going would go through the chiro museum or you know in a Any museum in the world and they would see these beautiful finally crafted Artifacts made out of big news rock and they look extraordinarily precise And I've done that the same the same.

48:00I mean I look at them and I was like wow. I'd like to get one of those in my shop and Just check it out, you know quality inspection And until for years that was that was a for me. It was like always a question. I love to know how precise those vases are and then in 2018 Uh, I know the owner of that original vase Adam Young He came on the tour and he befriended my son Alex And they were talking about the he uh the vases and Alex was a quality inspector quality engineer To the company that I worked at since he he worked at Another company in Indianapolis now. I think he's he's a working in the metrology lab at Rolls Royce in Indianapolis and so he's like well we should Scan them.

49:01I'll do it do an inspection. Mm -hmm So Adam brought his vase down to Indianapolis and uh to where Alex was working and the he got permission from the managers at the shop To do an inspection of them and he seems like you know you talk to people shop people right people who are actually out there every day Making quality parts that people do people's lives depend on you know if you fly on an airplane and You And I told one of the other there's another owner of vases. He's got a lot of them And I told him I said you know, I said you know you're carrying in your hand a loud effect That is more precise than some of the parts that were installed in the engine That was on the plane that you flew That's he's going and he's like wow Okay, I mean that's where you bring it home And so all these guys who are making these artifacts right and they're held to exacting standards every day They can't slip up they can't make mistakes You know, there's no fudging or faking anything Otherwise you'd be out on your ear or people will be falling out the skies Right, so that's for those parts and these artifacts were more precise than that which is just Well, not all of them.

50:23I mean there are parts in an airplane engine or aircraft engine That are more precise. I mean off Features features of the parts of more more precise and and that's where And can I could I I want to explain something here because I think it's a very very important point and it has confused a lot of people Really confused a lot of people the apart any part that you You have You know, whether it's a something for your car You know say a Crank shaft or something like that right Take a crankshaft. It's got very precise Features on it and then there are features that are not so precise Because that's don't they don't need to be it all depends on what the the customer requirements are So they don't they don't build precision or or or require precision in a product where it's not needed That's just that just waste of time right it just makes it more expensive But now you have you know people who are Looking at some of these artifacts like the boxes in the syrupy and And they are finding imprecise areas of the boxes The photograph of me inside one of those boxes with a with a tool maker's precision square.

52:04I mean there's nothing Nothing simpler right you take a square you stick it out and you look you check Check to see if the if it's square or the surface is flat is it square yeah, that's fine And now you've got guys going up around on the outside of the box and Finding inaccuracies Some areas inside boxes that's how inaccuracies and Now they're calling me a liar they say that I faked and furniture measurements Right, it's like I don't know the council culture they want to So get away from what is there the beef like you use to square Yeah, and you measure things and you found to be precise and I said holy shit look at this and what are they using?

52:54Before what equipment are they using that's showing that your equipment with that what your measurements are were inaccurate Ah They are not They don't they don't go to the area and show that the area that I was checking is imprecise They will find some other area that is less precise point to that Uh and and lead the viewer to believe That that defines everything right so everything is not precise but much of it is Yes, okay, yeah, and the areas that aren't necessary to be precise like the outside of the box are not as precise as the inside So we're saying they don't have to be right they don't have to be right So When it comes to precision like the the precision of the faces for instance yeah, um and some of the sculptures right what what is the conventional explanation for how precise they are Because these are massive faces that were supposedly carved by hand But the accuracy on either side of the face is so phenomenal yeah Like bizarrely so like how accurate well It exactly We don't know But I mean as far as the The methods that I used which are is like 2d photography and then comparing features in the computer For symmetry, you know and some geometric features Nobody had done that before and and so I come along, you know, I say wow this is actually You kind of hit me was in my the first time I went to Egypt and I was at Sikara and I was looking down the length of the The statue of Ramsey's at the open air museum there and they said well those Denostrels are extraordinarily Symmetrical I mean they match right and most people's nostrils are different if you look at them and and so the Yeah, that's my photograph.

55:09That's my there's the measurements right on each side. They're exact. Yeah, they're very exact as exact as I could make it but I you know I I qualify The work that I did by saying this this is not the final answer there there needs to be uh more sophisticated measurements taken more accurate measurements taken they need to be scanned and and then they need to be analyzed Where you have a precise scan where you're not you know you're not trusting your eyes You know you're actually trusting you know the tried and true development of uh laser scanners but at the very least the amount of symmetry that exists in these massive statues is spectacular It's blind blowing.

56:08I I can't I can't even express it. It's absolutely mind -blowing I mean you look at the one with the how large of these that we're talking about um well The one that I measured was uh the first one was at the Luxor Museum and it's out outside I would say it's probably four feet something uh But there's very large ones too right? Just the fake like the face and the headrest uh There are larger ones yes the uh I think the one at the that was taken from the Ramacim and is now in the British Museum was a large statue how big was that uh I think well they say that the statues that the statues at the Ramacim were up to thousand tons i'm not sure but they're really big really big A thousand tons look at that well I want but I wouldn't want to say yeah the thousand tons but I would say They were extremely heavy now.

57:18What is the conventional speculations to how this symmetry was achieved? um i've heard uh different ideas where you take a uh Amera and then you kind of match it to you know when you It guides your hand and another one where you You take a pointer and you set a depth and then you Transfer that from one side to the other um and those uh you know i mean I I don't know anybody who is a you know precision manufacturer who Would accept such an explanation uh and and really at the end of the day you have to say okay well show me And uh we'll match you know he show me and uh We'll uh Check yours and compare it to the original That's the only way to solve the problem And so this is just one example of one of the mind -blowing mysteries involved in this culture that they had Some kind of capability of not just doing that and not just making the vases but also making the pyramids themselves Which which are beyond your comprehension.

58:38They're huge I mean you know the thing is is that you have i don't think i want to say not all engineers think right but uh I don't i've never been with an engineer who has examined this this object from bento Egypt uh That is not Absolutely blown away by what they're seeing and it and and i saying no No you can't do it by hand you can't hold those kind of tolerances by hand Are you look at the Ramsey statue and you look at the symmetry is not Two -dimensional symmetry. I mean i was just measuring a two -dimensional photograph Not two -dimensional it's three -dimensional So that radius that you see going around the jawline is moving in three axes right xyz Mm -hmm, and you're still coming up with a radius perfect radius crazy nuts Yeah And so don't let's go to the pyramid itself So you have a very fascinating hypothesis as to what the pyramid or theory as to what the pyramid actually was and It's based on where the supposed kings chamber is where those passages go through into it and What do you think that thing was?

1:00:06uh Well my first book pretty much describes what I thought it was in 1998 which was a power plant the book is entitled the Gees of Power Plant my second book is evolved and And i described it as an electron harvest so you know it's kind of like He could describe it as both but and and today When you do all you know people it anything any any any decade They think of a power plant and then they see these huge chimneys with you know smoke stacks or new them plant Yeah, or a new plant you know power plant 13 nasty unclean But an electron harvester clean pollution -free Not a problem. Has that been achieved conventionally.

1:01:02I mean today Is there a thing called an electron harvester? I I think that actually When you look at a generator that's an electron harvester because we don't create electrons We just harvest them. It's just how we do it and and so you know when it when you say An electron harvester you could you could say that you know Say a wind genome We have a windmill you have a generator inside it and then you collect an electrons off the commutator in a generator And that's where the electricity comes in and that's where that's your electricity right or hydroelectric The water yeah, you don't you don't create the like you just Release them you harvest it from a process.

1:01:52Yeah, obviously through a process and the process That you think they use in the great pyramid involve those shafts It involves a lot of things. Yeah, it's not just one single thing is the system Not not a single thing. So when you look at we show a photo of that Do we have a photo of the pyramids and the shafts and where the kings chambers where you I know you've described this before Mm -hmm. Do you have a photo of I do I I certainly I think I wish one you wanted this perfect is this works So it works These names the kings chamber and the queens chamber you don't think that that's actually a kings chamber or queens chamber You think it's something else well out of respect to the Egyptians are caught what they call them Yeah, okay, but I do have a different terminology for them as they function Now the initial surface of the great pyramid is covered in smooth limestone, right?

1:02:53So it's polished and shiny and apparently it would collect insane amounts of light The well the outer surface of the the great pyramid mostly is messing Right, but it has been described as if if it was finished and Depending on the polish that it received. Yeah, he could It could reflect a lot of light the Do you think that that had something to do with the design of this Power plant I don't think I don't there. I don't think there's any part of that pyramid that did not have Did not serve a practical function? Okay, so so this is the image that you have here and what this image shows us is the kings chamber The the various shafts the southern shaft the northern shaft and these shafts have been described as portals to stars Because people have looked up through there and you go through the shaft you see stars But what you're saying is something entirely different.

1:03:54What do you think these shafts were for? Well, I think they serve two different purposes um Actually four different purposes if you will because um and the The theory that I propose which is I don't know it's a speculation of there. It's well The whole process is kind of like a heuristic Process where you're grabbing information you moving a you doesn't matter what What source you you get you get an if from right because when you are looking for answers, you know You look everywhere you try and find you know you look everywhere. So When I was going through the the process of it like trying to figure it out.

1:04:42I was collecting information from memory the um And one of you know for the southern shaft and the northern shaft of the queen's chamber That was a huge mystery to me and uh I And I tried to to fit it into the What were they doing? I mean if you look at the details the facts Of their design and what the ancient Egyptians were doing why they designed them that way you have Two conduits coming into a chamber, but they're not connected to the chamber and uh we didn't even know they existed until 1872 or for uh Wayman Dixon show me that image again, please So they're coming into the chamber, but they don't enter into the chamber so they stop their original their original design had the The shafts ending five inches before Coming into the chamber.

1:05:50So you had like five inches of limestone That was left in the block So did someone remove that limestone? Yes Why did they do that? Wayman Dixon because they were examining the chamber and they were poking around And uh Wayman Dixon it is reported so the legend goes Notice the crack in the wall and so he took a rod and pushed it through the crack And the rod he didn't meet any resistors he kept going So he um had his uh worker a worker come in Bill Grande with a hammer and chisel and say chisel chisel the limestone around that people stupid So Well they they did Yeah, they didn't have ultrasonic thickness.

1:06:40No, but still god damn to have the arrogance to go and chip away at the pyramid because you're Look at how it you know I don't care for revisionist historians because you know you have to consider What people were doing Their mindset in the day and then you I try to look at the on the bright side, right? It's like I don't look at his a negative thing because If somebody hadn't opened up those yass we wouldn't know about them right and uh and it's the same with the same with the the chambers above the kings chamber without how is what how advise and his military expedition blasting his way up Into the pyramid we won't we won't know about them either you won't be up I mean with there's a lot there I think there's a lot there right now And it's been investigated now um But there's things that have been revealed through Scanning like move off of group moveography the more the scam pyramid project Uh, and they found that large void above the grand gallery Right and so you know which is larger than the kings chamber, right?

1:07:51Uh, it's longer than the kings chamber, yeah, and so is that that's not even represented here on this It's about the size of the cabin on a bowing seven old seven Wow So if these shafts came through and then they met limestone at the end what do you think was going on? Um In order to answer that question Uh, I had to look at the rest of The pyramid okay What was it doing and uh, how was it functioning and so one of the key pieces of evidence that I used to propose a process that was going on is the northern shaft and the northern shaft uh has dimensions and and has an appearance Uh, that is similar to a wave guide that you would use for microwaves And the dimensions of it Uh, would be It would be a approximate uh, wavelength of hydrogen It's a what explain a wave guide?

1:09:04How does that work? Yes, it's like a wave guide is uh, to transmit white microwaves Uh Electromagnetic energy, you know in the microwave region and it uh, it is past more efficiently through uh Like a tube or wave guide and that's what they use. I mean that's they're very complicated uh, systems, you know, and so how did this represent in your mind what a wave guide looks like? Actually, you know the uh The idea of a wave guide came to me from a guy um We were talking we were talking about the the pyramids and I I was I carried I used to carry a You know schematic of the great pyramid in my back pocket and I Meal an engineer and I go hey, hey, come here Let's start going through so what do you think about this because you know, I was like I was looking for answers to Justin Brainstorming anything right And and it's like so and these these these uh these shafts right here and he looks at it and he was into electronics electronic engineering and he's left Hmm, they look like waveguides to me and I thought Well, that's interesting.

1:10:25Uh, they look like waveguides. Uh, okay What if they are waveguides? How do they function? I mean what what would they you saw what would they use in waveguides for in you know ancient Egypt? and And so I started to go down that rabbit hole uh, and that led me to the quince chamber and I say okay waveguides uh, you need a medium you need wave you know You microwaves to go through a waveguide what Uh What frequency of microwave was it right and you look at the dimensions and you come up you come up with a matched for hydrogen How do you do that? How do you come up with a mass for hydrogen through the dimensions?

1:11:07Yeah Yeah, the the wavelength of hydrogen is uh, 8 .309 inches and the uh the width of the the northern shaft is 8 .4 inches and a waveguide generally has the the wave length and then about half of the wavelength in height so it's a rectangular shaft just like all the shafts are yeah and the well that yeah the quince chamber shaft is a little more square than the king's chamber shaft So that a different function different function. Yeah, so these waveguides you believe what what are they connect collected and where are they getting it from? um Good question Joe you know They uh they had uh We are bombarded with uh With microwaves every every day.

1:12:11I mean it's the the signal from they say the big bang and you know there's a comes from atomic uh hydrogen and out in the universe in outer space but so we're being bombarded and you believe that this passage is So collecting this yeah, so Anyway, so then you say okay, uh if we build a device and we say okay and we want to energize hydrogen We bring it to a higher energy state and just like you know in a laser uh where you have uh The microwave amplification through stimulated emission right so uh So if we want to collect energy that is in a gaseous medium Say that is hydrogen medium and the electrons in the hydrogen are pumped up to a higher energy state and we want to collect the energy in that Introduce a microwave signal Directed through that gas and stimulate the emission of the energy collect that energy and chewed it up the sudden shaft And so that was like okay that not my work So what kind of gas hydrogen and so where are you getting the hydrogen from?

1:13:29Queen's chamber So there's hydrogen in the Queen's chamber and how does it get in there The shafts But they doesn't command as hydrogen that's that's a part of the uh The theory in the geyser power plant was it you know eight There are two chemicals That are introduced into the chamber and The chemicals mix and they boil of hydrogen And these chemicals are just coming from the radioactive waves of space? No, no no the chemicals I believe are manufactured and delivered To those shafts and coming okay, so they add some sort of chemicals to it And what function does the limestone have at the end that keeps it from going into the king's chamber?

1:14:18It keeps it blocked off well to answer that question. I was having a chat with a Civil engineer who was putting in a septic system for me and And so with a leach field and he was doing a percolation test, right Uh, this is an Indiana and Indiana is known for its fine limestone His name was roll and dove city engineer and I asked him I said well What how what do you do? How does this function? If you are in a area where the top where there's not much top soil You know you scrape away maybe a foot of top soil and then you're you're on the bedrock um What do you do then and he said well? If you are limestone is permeable and Basically you follow the same steps that you were as if you were dig it into earth You know just dirt Uh, you dig a hole you've got a hole in the in the limestone and you determine how quickly the The water would disperse or would actually see seep out And I was like wow, okay Slow wine stone acts as a filter Not a well, I mean it would have filter yes, but uh definitely the uh The only water would not just stay there right it would go through it But it would go through it in a certain rate and I said okay.

1:16:00I said get let me ask you this Um, what How do you determine the the flow rate how would you determine the flow rate of Over column of water? Right going through limestone and he said well that would depend on the head pressure Uh, how much pressure what weight is pushing against the limestone right And I go aha, okay That's interesting. So then I go back to the drawing boards. I go back to my uh Blueprints of the great pyramid and I'm looking at the uh The southern northern shaft of the Queen's chamber and I see that they Both both of these shafts go up to an area that Nobody knows where it goes At that time when I was doing research Uh, nobody knew where they ended No, so but I was thinking well they If they are feeding a call a whoop you know a chemical They would need to be assured that they can maintain a particular head pressure that would be calculated the weight of the column of fluid And essentially as these are on an angle, you know you Your calculations may get a little more complicated, but you'd have to you would figure it out or you could do it by trial and error the uh But not all the evidence was in to really Kind of solidify that theory, right?

1:17:50It's like okay. I've got this much data. This is what I'm working with There's a lot of unknowns. I don't know So what do what do we do and then in 1993? uh, they uh German a German engineer Rudolph Gantanbrink He uh was invited to Egypt and he was working under the the German The German mission in In Cairo and uh He had permission to Oh, they wanted him to actually Examine get a robot examine all those shafts that both the King's chamber and the Queen's chamber uh Actually, no mostly the King's chamber they wanted to ventilate the pyramid and so they wanted to make sure that the the shafts were clear and that When they installed their fans That there won't be any obstruction And so he built a robot to go through these clean clean the shafts out and then install fans in the in the King's chamber But he'd always been a mystery in the uh as far as the Queen's chamber shafts where did they end?

1:19:08Uh, oh, but he knew nobody had explored them now. So he proposed That uh they allow him to build another robot and examine the uh The shafts in the Queen's chamber which he did that He had a robot they called it uport to Which means the opening of the ways, uh, right And so uh with his robot he had a uh You know, he had a tether behind it and you know and a camera lights and it crawled its way it was like a track vehicle And there was a mechanism for the upper track that caused it to grip the ceiling And they uh it was able to climb up Climb up the shaft and they were looking for where it ended And they found where it ended after a you know a few uh Kind of obstacles one being a What they what he called a tank trap Which was like a depression in the floor of the shaft About a drop of about two inches Uh, which is another story entirely.

1:20:24I don't think I don't think the uh the full truth of why that is there has has been figured out yet or explained but They're working on it And so his uh robot when got so far up the shaft and they discovered That it there was a block Uh at the end of the shaft and through the block uh two metal fittings Metal what kind of metal Uh We don't I don't know so a person hasn't gone over there and gotten a sample of it So I don't really know it's just published I don't know there's some kind of metal fits They assumed that they were copper and how far is it from the outside edge of the pyramid? Uh Well, you do ask them all good questions.

1:21:10I don't have that information in front of me but I would say that if you are wanting to reach the the end of the Where that southern shaft is the the shortest route that you could take would be Through a horizontal passage that goes directly out to the outer surface of the great pyramid Just a horizontal passage. Okay, going up going down So what we're looking at when you're seeing the shafts Oh No worries I want to see what it looks like on the outside. They had that one. Yeah, so So say it again what would be the best way to access? Yeah, I mean if you go to the end of the shaft and just have a short horizontal shaft going or passage going out to the uh Going out to the outer face You would have a shorter distance and if you went uh You know or down So that would be the ideal place Uh to have access to it But it doesn't go this makes it look like it goes all the way to the outside edge of the pyramid.

1:22:35That's not the case Well, the here queen's chamber shaft. No, the king's chamber shaft. Well the king's chamber shaft does go to the outside It goes all the way outside Okay, and so the queen's chamber shaft It stops quite a bit before the outside edge of the pyramid right All right, so both of them function in a different way. Yes, and so you feel like in the king's chamber shaft that something was poured in some kind of chemicals This poured into those shafts queen's chamber shaft. Yeah, but not the king's chamber shaft Not the king's chamber shaft. Okay, so the queen's chamber shaft What is the difference and why do you think that there was chemicals poured in that and not into the king's chamber?

1:23:13uh because the The queen's chamber was the reaction chamber. So that's where the cut the hydrogen was produced The hydrogen filled the interior spaces of the uh the great pyramids and also Which included the king's chamber and then through the action different actions whether it be uh the frowned effect which we can talk about and that's the release of electrons from the lithosphere or the accumulation of vibration or the collection of vibration and uh and the And how it was centered or focused into the king's chamber It created a highly energized atmosphere so So have they found access to the northern and southern shafts in in the queen's chamber?

1:24:11To the to the shafts and they found access where the Egyptians would have been able to pour chemicals into those No, not yet. Not yet. No Um, but they have found something that's not represented represented on this image another chamber Right, which is more recent. Right. I mean the uh my my new book has updated images in it to describe The what is what new has been discovered and that new chamber is above the king's chambers are correct It's actually above the the grand gallery. Okay, and it's kind of wraps around or is You know close to the northern shaft That's an interesting Uh Place for it to be too Which prompted my research associate Eric Wilson who is a aerospace engineer to suggest that That actually feature if it is what he thinks it is would complete my theory Uh because it would serve uh as a Uh preamp for the microwave so the microwave he said that was the thing that was missing in my my theory was that I didn't There was no preamp So is there an image that we can look at that shows where this new chamber that newly discovered I should say chamber Can I take a break?

1:25:36Yes, we're sure sure. I need to go to yeah, absolutely. We'll be right back. All right So you were just discussing The chambers and how you believe fluid was in the shafts of the queen's chamber And that it somehow another created hydrogen with these chemicals How is the microwave going through those chambers if it's blocked off from the outside? Is it penetrating through the stone? Well, um it doesn't go into the queen's chamber so it's Through the king's chambers shafts which are open. Okay, so the king's chamber shafts is what's collecting the microwaves The queen's chamber shafts have the the you believe some chemicals in there Right And then what is happening with those chemicals there?

1:26:28I'm saying I'm baling off hydrogen Okay, so they're creating hydrogen right and what is the function of the space in those shafts? Is that help the chemical process? Is that what it is? The space in the shafts where they're filling them up with liquid Oh, yes, I'm that that is that the uh that is predetermined To make sure that they maintain their head pressure the The fittings are the metal fittings I describe as switches like fluid switches so if once when the the fluid or the chemical was covering those those uh metal fittings I call them electrodes the There would be a closed circuit when the When the fluid level drops It would open the circuit and sink and signal the need for more chemicals to be pumped in in order to maintain the head pressure in order to make sure that there is an accurate supply of that chemical And so that chemical would pull up inside of the queen's chamber?

1:27:42That it would probably yes, I mean that we don't there's a lot that is missing from the queen's chamber You have a the niche in the uh east wall Uh, we we don't know what that was for. I suspect that it had something to do with They may have been an evaporation tower or something like that where The the chemicals mixed and wicked up Through some materials and you know, it may it was maybe it dried Did you show me the image again, please? Yeah, and so so here we have the so there's the chemicals that are in the the shafts Um, you have the queen's chamber which is collecting the hydrogen and then what happens Into the king's chamber Oh, well, land is going on the queen the king's chamber is vibrating In sympathy with the earth um, and It has it becomes it is actually a coupled oscillator with the earth Also, how does that work?

1:28:54Well a couple oscillator is a device that's attached to a larger vibrating device and Is it sympathy what is causing the king's chamber to vibrate? the uh the passage of vibration through the pyramid of the earth of the earth which is assisted It's coupled by using what I call a tesla device in the in the subterranean chamber Because you've got you've got three four you got several systems in there, right? So if you got the subterranean chamber uh That's that serves one function you go up to the queen's chamber that serves another function you go up to the king's chamber That serves another function and in between You have the gran gallery the ascending passage got the descending passage all of these things uh Are there for a reason and so the subterranean chamber How do you think that worked?

1:30:00I I I would speculate that and actually if you if you read tesla and some of his writings he suggests that uh With a very little energy you could Uh, you could build a device that imparts uh Energy or thrusts into a structure And if it is in Harmony or The exact frequency with that structure it could bring the structure down just by an accumulation of of energy of vibration the amplitude would keep And if you kept pounding it and pounding it and pounding it eventually it'll come down The uh, I mean that was That's why they uh They instructed soldiers when they're on the march to break step when they cross a bridge because that footsteps might uh Cause the bridge to oscillate Mm -hmm and destroy it's a very destructive force is the is the this uh This you know frequency though Oscillating vibration so What would caught what kind of device in the subterranean chamber would do that He built a device that delivers thrusts Uh powers it was electromagnetic earthquake machine this called Right?

1:31:31Mm -hmm. Uh, you could do it with a electro mechanical you could i electro hydraulic or you know Anything but it had you have to be able to time The action and so okay, you think of it like you've got you're gonna device you're gonna sell under you got a shaft coming out of it and You got a hammer or you got a you know copper pan or whatever the end of it and You designed it so that that shaft is going to push out At a particular frequency, so you're gonna like a pest boom boom boom boom and so you put it again say structure that structure has a natural frequency Right all structures do Uh, you might hit one with the first and don't think it had you know it would resonate at all, but if you go the first the first strike May impart enough energy to move something maybe a couple of angstroms, right?

1:32:38Mm -hmm and so it's like very very binding you movement right the next one will move it a little more Then you just keep pounding it just keep pounding it and as you pound it the oscillations become bigger The amplitude becomes bigger and if you keep doing it You can bring it bring the uh the whole thing down so the key is to Do it at a rate that is able to utilize the hydrogen? Well at this point hydrogen has nothing to do with it. I mean this is this is just a totally separate sub system It doesn't care if there's hydrogen in the pyramid, but this is the sub system exists to vibrate the king's just just to Connect the pyramid with the uh, right, okay, so it's it's vibrating the pyramid yeah and The the hydrogen in the queen's chamber now It Makes its way into the king's chamber Well, yes, I mean it's it flows up through the grant the along the horizontal passage Through the grand gallery and up into the king's chamber.

1:33:51So all this is connected. Oh, that's connected So the the hydrogen goes up it goes in the king's chamber. Which is a phenomenal structure right? Carved out of granite from 500 miles away massive stones the biggest stones in the pyramid correct right and so What happens with the vibration of the pyramid? Through this this thing that's connected to the earth and subterranean chamber constantly hitting boom boom boom vibrating The hydrogen flows into the great chamber the great the the the king's chamber or the king's chambers of vibrating And then you have these shafts that come from the outside of the king's chamber into it.

1:34:30So what's happening there? Okay, well, let's let's go back to the subterranean right okay, and let's talk about not what happens in the pyramid But while he's happening in the earth okay, and this is where We introduced Tesla technology and also the work of a NASA physicist Called freedom and fraud just keep that thing up there, chair So freedom and fraud has done a did research on earthquake lights and His objective was to try to determine If we could detect or we could have an early warning system for earthquakes and he was using NASA satellites to survey the earth and to observe for where when earthquake lights show up and his His theory it's not really a theory it's a scientific fact Is that in the in the minerals in ignus rock That you have these positive charge carriers that when they are stressed Um, they will shoot to the surface and the positive charge carries like the column holes He describes it as a new physics, but it's kind of related to semiconductor physics, which is a little bit my head But the but still he's talking about releasing electrons from deep within the earth And those electrons when they're stimulated to move they move very very quickly Through the pyramid, I mean, no, through the earth and and they seek the highest point On the surface of the earth So you have Tesla on one side and he's saying that if if you could put a like an earthquake machine and just drive You know frequency into the planet you might be able to release the stresses in the earth's crust And also reduce the possibility of An earthquake I'm not saying eliminated entirely But at least You would release some pressure.

1:37:05Yeah, you would release some creature And so you know with with that it's um It becomes you put in these little bits of disparate information together and you Combine them you say oh maybe there is something here I think of you know the The biggest discovery which is not talked about very much is a As freedom of friends discovery of the Of how the physics Behind earthquake lines and he actually uh He actually Experimented in his lab you want that he has a YouTube. There's a YouTube video with him He explains it a lot better. Do you want to pull that up and watch it? Well, we could be promise we'll get flagged Oh, okay then uses YouTube video Oh, okay, all right So for those you know listening uh, you can search freedom and fraud And that are just fraud F R E N E F R E U N D And uh TEDx talk in uh Christchurch, New Zealand So that's an excellent video Okay explains it so something is happening in the subterranean chamber yeah And this something Is causing the pyramid and the earth around it to vibrate Mm -hmm And how is that affecting the hydrogen and how is that affecting what's what's happening in the king's chamber?

1:38:46Okay, so you have a combination of uh, you got two different Kinds of energy now flowing through the great pyramid you've got Electromagnetic energy and also got mechanical energy Right, okay, so you've got the mechanical energy of this thing that's striking right you have the passages that are filled with chemicals It's causing the accumulation of hydrogen the hydrogen is making its way into the king's chamber right and then what is the function of these passage ways that go into the king's chamber from the outside? Well the northern shaft carries a microwave signal that signal Passes through a amplifier And then the the signal enters into the chamber Uh and collects the energy that has been Accumulating in in that space and it's like uh it's like a laser Or maze it you know, so the chambers are collecting microwave energy from space.

1:39:50Yeah, it's going through them and it's going Excuse the passageways rather it's going into the chamber which is vibrating and it's filled with hydrogen So what what is this reaction that happens when these two things meet? Okay, the action of that is the same as a laser where you where you have uh the introduction of uh a A photon in a laser right that photon Passes through an energized medium Where the electrons are pumped to a higher energy state then the uh That photon collects another photon And then another one and it just builds and builds and builds and builds But it does it at a speed of light obviously And so that's why when you you say you have a laser point that process is what Happens with but before you before the light appears on your on your slide or whatever You press the button and it's kind of instant, right?

1:41:01But there's a lot been a lot going on since Uh when you when you press that button to create that laser light. I see but it just happens. It's so fast. Right. Yeah. So This Kings chamber when it Has the hydrogen in it the You have the electrons you have the vibration of the thing you have the microwaves coming in what do you think this other? You have microwaves coming in but then you have power output power output. Yeah, so the power output is the the cell -in shaft and This is where you there's another piece of key evidence Uh Jamie could you show the slide that shows the opening of the seven shaft please?

1:41:51Uh, it's crazy that this makes sense Well That's how I was trying to get there's a bunch of slides in here that are really interesting, but we haven't got to them yet Well, we got time We'll get those What it said you know, I don't know about me. I You're doing great. I made pass out Have a cup of coffee here's the northern shaft, but oh, that's an all that you have. Okay, wait a minute go go to the newer slides There I think there are better images on those Yeah, these were created back in the day Okay, hold on go. Yeah, nothing's that selling See okay here. Okay, just stop here. Okay. Okay. All right, so Uh my first book I didn't have a really accurate description of the northern shaft okay, and and so Since then we got the The CAD drawings of Rudolph Gantanbring but when he did an examination and he did a great great job measuring everything every angle distance all the way to the outside and so this is Taken from his CAD drawing and I just kind of you know made it a little more Striking clear or people could understand the complexity of that shaft and also to point out some of the details that are Pretty mind blowing you have four bends one two three four Before it goes into the The King's Chamber Okay Now where is that opening it is at the quarter wave location and in a in a resonant cavity uh The highest amplitude Could be found at a quarter wave so it's like if you got a standing wave in a resonant cavity It's the quarter wave that's with the quarter of the distance along the length of the cavity.

1:44:05That's where Your amplitude that's where your energy is the highest so at least in this placement in a frontier theory That's where it would be right okay, but the other thing is and this is this information of course is Uh Common I mean I've talked to people who worked on weight guides Eric Wilson is very familiar with them And he he did a A study of a gantan brings drawings and he said yeah, there's there's this and he's pointing out different unusual features in the shaft that seem to appear in The design of modern weight guys because you have Changes in dimension you have these steps there is a like a bump in an area and it's all to kind of massage Manipulate the beam as it comes into the the pyramid But then when it when it comes to entering into the great the the king's chamber Uh They go through four bends.

1:45:10He said that's that's uh to be able to correct the beam So that when it does enter the pyramid it is coherent and it goes in straight Wow So it's literally how you would design it Uh the other thing yeah the other thing is that the uh And this this is mind blowing and And it will tell you a lot there is another Another drawing of a plan view of the uh of that shaft Jamie um Hold on I think Uh Yeah, no below the one with the below that one directly. Yeah, nope you passed it. Yeah that one Okay, so you know the uh The commonly held theory About why those shaft exists is to ventilate the great pyramid right?

1:46:18Okay, and And that the reason why they They have those bends Is for it to encircle the grand gallery so there doesn't interfere or You know with with the grand gallery Now if you're just gonna ventilate the place You know you would would you need that that many bends But look at the distance between the grand gallery wall and the and the north shaft It is 13 .6 feet Right if you take Where the uh the level where the shaft enters the king's chamber And you take it straight past The uh the grand gallery You're looking at dimension e Which is 41 inches So it would clear the grand gallery it didn't have to go through all those bends unless The uh wall blocks of the grand gallery was so large That they didn't want to interfere with them And so does that suggest that the wall block thickness because we don't know how thick they are We don't know how thick they are But that suggests that they are maybe just a little less than 13 feet thick That is mind blowing Oh heavier those things Yeah So So this the way it's set up here now especially when you're looking at it from this It really does kind of make sense that this is a passageway for gases and energy Like the way I'm looking I mean it looks like if you're looking at it like this looks like Like a system.

1:48:26There's a machine You were you were pointing about you were talking about the southern shaft All right um and that the southern shaft there's an outside image yeah, I see it in the outside Yeah, could you show that one Which image is it? Oh, it's coming I think Well, I think you're going the wrong way, do you mean there wasn't another picture the other way? I can google it if you want me to find it but I don't know if it was It's in there Uh go down How many images are in here Hundreds how many did you want? Oh, hold on wait a minute no just just above right it was right below the previous Picture that we were talking about number 47 there that's no just below that yeah there okay Okay Okay, so the bottom left a photograph Is the opening of the southern shaft I mean yeah the southern shaft of the King's Chamber I took a photograph of it in 1986, okay To one on the right I took in 1995 and that was after Rudolph Gantanbrink had installed the fan But if you look at that opening you see that you have like a bulbous opening almost looks like a microwave horn antenna Right So it's not it's not just a straight simple shaft is it's like it's like a catchers mitt, okay?

1:50:11Yeah All right, I mean it's it's just all of these different features of this chamber that Most I mean you would overlook them right, but you would design it that way if you were trying to oh yeah catch microwaves yeah and so The southern shaft and the northern shaft have different functions And you believe that the northern shaft is collecting the microwave energy It is channeling the channeling the microwave. Yeah, I mean they would have some system on the outside to collect them You know, I mean they may have a very large area Uh actually collecting microwaves and feeding it to a Reflector that is directed down the northern shaft I mean if you look you know that the there are eight sides to the pyramid right You each side it dips in so it's not they they doesn't go straight across it dips in I'm not I don't know where that reflector would have been positioned, but they could have been to Reflecting microwaves off the surface of the great pyramid to a reflective Um at a distance away and that reflector Channel it down the the northern shaft that would be one way to do that be one way to do it So either way you believe that the northern shaft was somehow or another collecting microwave energy and the southern shaft Do you What would they do with that energy?

1:51:44This is the question like well? Yeah, that's the your signal input That that's what enters the King's chamber and stimulates the mission of other photons right but one is once this energy's Connected right once it's once they have it collected How are they? Disperse how are they using it? How are they utilizing it? Uh Your your guesses as good as mine I Can only I mean I could only imagine if they can dream up uh, how to Build this system uh, how they you How they machine those precision phases how they built the boxes and the cerepium how they created the statue uh, and Knowing that there is so much missing from That culture not only that but knowing that you have to have something Yeah, you can use to make this in the first place.

1:52:46Yes, like what kind of material Are you using to carry these things? There's so much missing and you know, it's kind of like All right, so you're saying that you use the pyramid to Create energy and with that energy you You do a powered your power tools to build the great pyramid That doesn't make any sense Doesn't make any sense at all right, so there was probably some other methods that we're not aware of Yeah, obviously I mean you build a you build any power plant you're gonna have You you know, you're gonna have generators on site. They're gonna wheel them in and also This is not gonna be your first project You're not gonna you know you you already have some understanding of how the stuff works if you're making something at this scale Well, I mean our Industrial development about 200 years of development Imagine if it's 500 years of development 1000 years from now.

1:53:46Yeah, right Jamie go back to that image which showed the cross section that he said We'll stop at this one that no there was one earlier, but that's fine Either one of them There was another one that showed like sort of a cross section that's it. That's it. Thank you so this Gives us an understanding of what it would look like originally there was a gold cap on the top smooth limestone on the sides What do you think the function of that gold cap was because gold is used in electricity? It's go in electronic components. It's a great conductor of electricity. Well, this is where you combine the Teslas technology And also Freund's laboratory experiments and in the laboratory What frying did is he Got a granite slab Couple of me that feet locked few feet long and he put it in a hydraulic press in order to test his theory that if If you know igneous rock is put under pressure it releases electrons So he wanted to test that and he said said it the ground it up in is a concrete press.

1:55:06I mean concrete press hydraulic press And then he ran a wire You know through a enough In a oscilloscope or you know and then attached it to a copper cap on the other end Of the of the granite so there has to be some kind of a connection All right, so you got Electrons moving you know you got positive charge carries shooting through the granite and then the hand shaking at the end with the Negative electrons and everybody does a happy dance and fires up there there microwaves Just kidding But that that is seriously and then you combine that with Tesla and his proposal to build a System that where you can transmit electricity wirelessly without wires through the through the earth And you built the Walden cliff tower which was like a you know structure that Would radiate that power So that's the inspiration for this image right here So the idea would be that this whole thing would be emitting wireless electricity yes And so that they would be able to utilize that somehow Like Tesla had theorized Tesla We actually implemented it right in tests, right?

1:56:43Yeah, I mean Tesla power Tesla Tesla cars to probably um, so Is have you debated anyone about this as any Egyptologist or any person who doesn't agree with your theory sat down with you and and tried to pick it apart I am not a fan of debates um Myself, I mean, I know it's good theater and some people are really good at it. Mm -hmm and I And you were able to demonstrate that the other week Um, but I'm not a big fan of them. I'm not sure um as far as Scientists go or science or you know Uh Putting work out there for examination by your peers. I'm not sure that it is um helpful to You know, you know set up a uh Faciality matriolary You know, I'm just curious But I'm just interested to see what other people have to think about your theory because this this is really fascinating to me I'm looking at all this and I'm like wow This makes so much more sense than having this thing there as just a tomb For a dead guy which there's not a lot of evidence that that's the case because they've never actually found No No, I I mean, I you know if you ask me What was it well?

1:58:14Chris what What the hell were you thinking when you came what was thinking? You know, I mean and that is actually a key question because you know if you're you're an examiner or if you are pleading pleading you something or somebody is Challenging you What your state of mind was when Something happened and event happened. What was your state of mind at the time? is important and my state of mind at the time was The tomb theory is a dead theory. I don't accept it the pyramid because of its Design his features its precision it looked like a machine perhaps it's a machine And if it is a machine how did the machine operate?

1:59:06So that's basically what my state of mind was and the evidence that I was looking at was evidence of a level of sophistication and a structure that actually demonstrated the highest level state of the art that that civilization or that that culture produced um or any culture any culture and and they yeah it hasn't been replicated since I'm sure how was that possible How was it possible the whole thing is so impossible like if you wanted to have the the best evidence that we don't know shit He's got it right you got it right there. It's like what do we how much do we know about what they knew if they could make that?

1:59:58Yeah, I don't people ask me he's like well Why haven't you built a model why and I was like You don't understand the you know because I can't even before Water the blocks that goes into the king's chamber Well the thousand of and also like how much time would it take you to build that good lord and not only that It's like you know if you're gonna if you're gonna replicate I Was asked that question when I was in Egypt in 2021 and I was with uh Hamada and war and dr. Hayney holol Who is the used to be the minister of science and higher education both extremely extremely good guys and they are both on the scam pyramid mission team so I I had a meeting with them and uh I gave I gave my book to dr allow and Hamada already had one he'd arranged the meeting I gave my book to Hailey holol and I described it briefly And he asked me a question.

2:01:09I never thought I would hear in Egypt and he says well Could the great pyramid be restored and function as you envisioned that it did? And I was like I ponder that question before and I thought Can't see that happening You know, I mean if you if you were going to If you're gonna you know replicate it or create another one I would do another one you know Uh because of the political climate Right of course. It's there is so much focus under great pyramid and everybody who's focused on It is an expert and most of them have YouTube channels so yeah So you have you have a oh hyper focus on that area.

2:02:05I mean just Just the simple thing like okay, we're gonna recover the third pyramid Uh, we're gonna restore it. We're gonna recover it and blah blah blah I mean it was a whole shit storm that came after that. I mean they finally they finally killed the project I saw do you think that it's good they killed the project? I mean, isn't it good to leave that stuff in the state in which we found it? I think you know people With the best of intentions and Working with the information that they have Uh can make mistakes and A lot of times and I've made them myself a lot of times it's because Uh, I I'm a making decisions Not having sufficient information right, so it's kind of like they were There was the new The new chief of the supreme council of antiquities the director of the Chairman of the supreme council of antiquities and so he was He had a Gentleman who was going to help him restore the Third pyramid and so He goes out and calls a press conference and tells everybody what they're gonna do and then there was a Firestorm of criticism.

2:03:38Okay, I mean just flooded in and and And then finally the I think it was that Zaihawaii pulled Is an influence to shut the project down and and Then So they backed up on it, but You know if he had touched all the bases. I mean you just never know because relationships in any culture you don't understand them You know you don't know who knows who is related to right, you know, you got all these all this activity But but I think people rightly so were upset the idea of covering that thing just like they covered up the pause of this Thanks, well, it wasn't very controversial right not necessarily covering it, but restoring it, but you are covering it right because you're doing Modern human Yeah, you're ruining what is left?

2:04:40Well, but in the state that it is it represents the erosion and the earthquakes the looting of the limestone This is what it is so this is yeah, but they cover it up with 2024 Work seems gross Right, I'm that's what a lot of people think because that right it is it is not Respecting history or you know, right, so if they did that with the great pyramid and covered the whole thing well I mean yeah, I mean that that would certainly be more possible than building another one. Yeah Oh right well you certainly a lot easier one half the quarry as much limestone not even close So if they did that let's just imagine a world where people say hey Um, we're gonna do this, but we could always reverse it We're gonna do any permanent damage to the pyramid But it's possible to restore it to the exact state and find out if the theory's correct Yeah, but how do you do that?

2:05:39I mean I I don't think You would have to have a lot more research and evidence produced The national state to convince people to invest so much money right because I mean this is a process Okay, the the gaze of power plant and Gives the Tesla connection is a process right and I'm pretty much at the end of Of that process so I put you put it out in the universe and then right other people are picking it up like I'm a deadly Uh, you know, I sure have to be any of the kind of new university But let's imagine let's imagine we enter into a world where people say you know what it's better if we know And there's only one way to know and it's possible to do so it's let's cover that thing the way it was done before Let's put a gold cap on it.

2:06:35Let's let's let's follow the plans as if this is a power plant right but first you have to qualify verify All the sub all the systems the subsystems right and their function right and it's complicated in would you qualify that could it be more possible today? You would be you would have to you would need a well Whoever is in control of the AI who's driving right but it'd be let's look at best case scenario Let's pretend there's some objective scientists that are not ideologically driven at all and they're in control of this AI And they utilize it the exact way we would like it to be utilized what I would love Is for some PhD student to take on as a dissertation project the acoustic modeling of the interior of the great pyramid Get all the dimensions scan everything find out all the dimensions what they are And then you start to simulate The behavior of the movements of sound within that space.

2:07:49I mean we we have You know we're using human instruments to de to detect resonance and report on On the vibrations and how they feel when they hear it and you know, there's a lot of like magical experiences that are happening but But the magic I mean if you if you've ever read Othsy Clark is kind of like sufficiently advanced technology is Is first seen as magic right so if you have an alien race and they have sufficiently advanced Technology you was located as magic right our cell phones sure if they appeared in in our culture a hundred years ago Magic magic yeah People wouldn't know what to do with them and if this culture had something that's not where we are but 500 years more advanced than us which is why they were able to create some point time right I mean it looks like magic.

2:08:57I talk about the the recent disclosure by the ODI on the UAPs and here Really yeah, I think they're connected as an example as an example of What is possible physically Because if you consider that you know those let UAPs can descend from 80 ,000 feet To see level in a few seconds That the GeForces that they would pull on a 90 degree turn will be like a thousand g's but would destroy any of our craft and the people inside If it was even possible to make such a turn that which is not we don't have anything To match it and then you see how they function you see what what can we observe on how they are propelled You know unless 16 they've got afterburners and we see these afterburners kick on and fire belching out of the back Those UAPs they just seem to have some kind of aura around them and they Defeat gravity and move through space in a way that appears like magic But sufficiently advanced technology would be magical right almost less impressive than a cell phone Right because all of them flying around My cell phone is sending instantaneous video to the other side of the world.

2:10:26Well that little UAP could be doing the same Yeah, so except to other planets, right. We just don't see all the mothership which is Or we don't see it. It might be American. It's also high as pictured right? I really wonder how much of that stuff is ours. How much of that stuff is black ops projects? I don't think they've been I don't think so. You think it's from somewhere else I mean I can't prove where it's from but if it is from somewhere else, I'd like to follow it home You and me both I'd like to I'd like to see the uh I'd like to observe the the civilization and the culture that created go in the manufacturing plant say how you're making this and You know say okay, well you're getting your power from I don't see any any you know Train cars carrying tons of coal and belching yeah chimneys out in the distance right?

2:11:22Well if there's a time machine If there was ever a time machine I've always said if I could go back to one place I would be I'd go back to Africa when they were doing that. I go to Egypt. Oh, good girl. What the what were you doing? pressure. What were you doing? How were you guys doing this? What the hell is going on over here? All right, where did it all go? I mean, I know the burning of the library of Alexandria they lost so much right and we have no idea like what was in there and what What knowledge they had preserved right? So now it's all lost and if you're correct and if they really did have some sort of of a Machine that makes electricity that to this day when we're let me you want renewable electricity there you go kids Right It's right there and some other someone did it 4 ,500 years ago.

2:12:07Right how What did you what did you guys do and how are you so much more advanced than all the other humans on earth? I'm so much more I'm digging through an article right now of some audio engineers that Got access to the great pyramid They took in a bunch of high -powered speakers and whatnot very first thing this guy recognized here he says He noticed that there's a very specific precise frequency when the wind blows across some of the air shafts and it's a F sharp Yeah, and that it that appears in the I think Tom Danley Who was a nasser engineer and he was on the uh A team and did acoustic testing inside the great pyramid he Measured the frequencies in the King's chamber and reported that even with all his equipment turned off the King's chamber was still vibrating and he He Actually go back to you.

2:13:06No, sir Look at this this right here. It says ancient Egyptian text indicate that this f sharp was the resident harmonic center of planet earth Yes, yeah, that's the connection. That's the uh That's the seismic connection the the uh f sharp is also coincidentally it says in question marks the tuning reference for the sacred flutes of many North American shaman's yeah the hope is yeah So the f sharp is very important. It's also it's also uh found in human DNA believe yeah And uh there was a uh dr. David Deemer who actually mapped the frequencies of DNA as an engineer I will note 16 Hertz is just below the human threshold of hearing The best you can hear is 20 interesting so no one can dogs hear that Carl hear that uh they're known for hearing higher I suppose they could probably hear lower to you.

2:14:01What is this tan Well, uh, uh in the uh like there on 2003. I was contacted by a very talented um physicist his name is Dustin Kerr you could google Dustin Kerr if you like he uh got his PhD at Cornell University and and his uh his thesis of dissertation was actually creating a nano guitar Well Yeah, the nano guitar the the strings are just about a hundred atoms wide well and you have to have a electron micr for telling electron microscope to be able to see it And so uh anyway he contacted me and i i'm really impressed with this guy How did you strum that guitar uh with laser light wow Whoa, it's two microns oh my god that that scale is two micron wow that's bananas And so and so used a laser To play this guitar you would need yeah, I mean just a very very subtle uh laser which you know is like micro heat Expand expand the strings and you would you would get they would vibrate But you couldn't hear of course right of course so way right but it but it exists So the the frequency that's in the great chamber is below the threshold for humans to hear Yeah, it's uh Emphrasonic yeah, right, but if this machine was running it would probably a different frequency right um That all those frequencies would uh would be uh Played apart plus more I would say um the you know and besides his nano guitar when We we were communicating uh Dr.

2:16:06Carr Uh did a model model the uh finite element element analysis of the great pyramid And uh guess what what 16 hertz showed up in that Wow Fascinating so Wow the whole thing is just so crazy that it blows your mind you know it really does is there's so many questions and so many places to To take it to it's yeah the real question is like How did they do it? Where did they learn all this stuff from and did they implement this somewhere else? Is this the only power plant they ever created? The other pyramids do they have similar function? I think the fundamentally um perhaps they You know the science Of uh tapping into a harvesting electrons through uh And the lithosphere Was probably known and uh and that That knowledge was Advanced and developed right but if you have what this design would you believe the great pyramid how it was used as a power plant What do you think is going on with the other two pyramids that are near it?

2:17:22Same thing except they have different interior designs. They're all powered of the system So oh so it's all connected all three of them are connected somehow yeah And have you observed similar situations in those smaller pyramids where it seems like they would be utilized in a similar fashion Is there shafts and I just I just think you know if you are If you are considering it as a uh As a project. Okay, so you you you you you design a project you Propose a project you gather the resources to complete the project uh, you describe it to uh You know your investors I mean, I but it ultimately is about Followed the money.

2:18:18How much is it going to cost and what's the return on investment? And so you have okay, I want to build a great pyramid and we're going to have all this you know, we're gonna have all this energy and I'll build another Few pyramids around it and they'll just be tourist attractions No, no, no, I mean You if you if you've got the whole Plateau and the lithosphere beneath it. I mean point said that the The lithosphere is actually a giant battery it can it can turn into a giant battery if it is stimulated right right and So if you got that that condition you got all that potential energy under your feet All you've got to do is shake it a little bit You know and just go hey send me a few more electrons and uh and you build a system on the surface Uh, perhaps you survey the area just like you know, NASA satellite surveyed the area for freedom of frying and You build a Pulse generator deep under the geese a plateau Uh, and you start that system up and you survey the area and you look for the hot spots, right for where the The maximum number of electrons are coming are coming through from the lithosphere and then you say okay We'll build a pyramid there Build one there we'll build one there those are your hot spots You know you got a hot spot ink in Texas, right?

2:20:00Oh really? Yeah, Marfa Marfa, Texas. What is it? It's a town I think you know I know Marfa, but how's it a hot spot? They're Marfa lights if you heard of those now Yeah, pull up the Marfa lights. Is that ball lightning? No, it's kind of like a light show Really yeah Yeah, it's very famous and it's from the 11th Well, I know Marfa. I have a friend who has a house in Marfa. Really? Yeah, he loves it there. It's like a kind of an artist community, right? Probably the energies right? Mm -hmm like Sedona, right? Yeah, it's all the weirdos. Yeah I'm one of those weirdos. I kind of want to lift that.

2:20:41Oh, it's gorgeous place. Sedona's gorgeous. Gorgeous So what is this? So there's this interview I think I'm imagining what they're trying to say here without listening to everything. What is so these lights? What's going on with these lights? What is this? It's a Marfa lights interview on the Marfa lights. Oh, okay. Okay. I don't know exactly So when you see those things flying around the sky, what are they? Is that like ball lightning? Yeah, I mean it's like drones going from the earth and ionizing the air It says according to Judith Bruezk the Marfa lights of West Texas have been called many names over the years such as ghost lights weird lights strange lights car lights mystery lights or Keonti lights my favorite place from which to view the lights is a widened shoulder on highway 90 about nine miles east of Marfa The lights are almost are most often reported at distant spots of brightness distinguishable from branch lights and automotive headlights on 67 So primarily distinguished by their aberrant movements So these things just sort of fly around Mm -hmm the first historical record of the Marfa lights was 1883 when the young cowhand Robert Reed Ellison saw flickering light while he was driving cattle through the Pizano pass and wanted to visit campfire of the Apache Other settlers told him the offense on the lights, but when they investigated they found no ashes or evidence of a campsite So what is happening again with these lights?

2:22:11How's it? It's electrons going through the earth if you if you consider Primes theory from the prime effect It's the release of positive charge carriers from the lithosphere shooting up to the surface and ionizing the air Ah, okay, and so it creates a light that way creates a light that way Um a lot of people have speculated that it could be like a piece of electric activity and Caught sparing rock, but But it really doesn't support that idea. I don't think but it would sort of support this theory that if you could find places where that is happening naturally Yeah, like Marfa and you established the pyramid there, right You had one other thing that you just said to me when we took a break that there was some evidence that You knew about this dibble handcock debate that it comes the light.

2:23:07Oh Yeah, that's it that was interesting um a fellow researcher Manu Safeday he wrote the bug Under this things he had posted on Facebook uh A paper that have been published. I mean I think the the discussion was The existence of industrial activity during the ice age right okay and so um You know, I talked to him and he sent me several papers Where other studies have been done uh And uh that show The same kind of markers that you see in that period of time In the paper that he presented on the podcast Uh, so You know Everybody should have a chance to fix their mistakes, right? But They are could you pull them up jamey and we could just go through them Uh, and then they will be on record Okay, so what is wrong?

2:24:30So what what you're saying is that what he was saying is that the evidence of industrialization Only occurs after a specific time in the course samples right that they they weren't uh There's no evidence of them in the ice age and is this led what is it in right right? So I mean I this is out of my wheelhouse, right? I I'm not an expert with this gentleman posted this in response. I'm just saying that if there is You know, I know there a body of evidence or other papers Uh that have been conducted that my research has been conducted to go further back into the past in the period of time that nibbles paper Uh Dails with Then they should be introduced into the record and how far in the past of these go 150 ,000 years and how far in the past did the ones that did want to do this go?

2:25:31Between 1000 AD is up. It is just like a narrow window. Okay, so did you find it jamey? Well, I have I don't have clint stuff because that was on his computer Well, there his paper his paper is the paper that he referenced is in there the one that you brought? Yeah, okay Well, I have then what I have what you brought. This is what you have I don't know that's not the one that he presented. I don't know which one that was It was the 2000 I think it was the 2018 paper Yeah, any five just I mean just uh pull them up Atmospheric lead and air order guys during the last climax cycle Yeah, is that it?

2:26:19Now that's one of them. I don't think it's the one that dibble presented But what are the one the one that you're presenting the one that you the one that my news sent me Let's see what she's that one See that one I think it goes back 149 ,000 years so yeah, just in the just oh this is the one. Yeah, this is the one. I think that What date is on that I don't know 2018 maybe 20 yeah, I think it's 20k right So it said the the title of this is for anybody wants to find it is led pollution recorded in Greenland ice indicates European emissions track Plagues wars and imperial expansion during antiquity right, okay?

2:27:01Okay So if you look up the other papers they treat a different period of time and when you go back to The ice age you do find um That the same kind of evidence Is that what this paper showing? This is Which one is this the same this is the one we're just looking at oh no this is this is that short time period So this is 1100 bc to 800 This is the one that dibble presented that yeah, okay, so what's the one that you're presenting? I'm not presenting What it was the one that you're the ones that the ones that I that was sent to be Okay, where are those there on there in the fall though Jamie? Okay, and what is that one called?

2:27:48Okay, go down to the next one Really, but this one right for it says highlighted. This is like the high -losing area. Yeah, I mean, okay I think they're all they're all kind of similar Yeah, well the two the first two you send me five things the first two are the same as just this this was highlighted in Oh, actually, okay, okay, let's go that and make a little bigger I sent them to you. I get they're on there. I was saying it was sent to me so So it says very low during the hall of scenario probably during the last interglacial and part of the last ice age There were very high during the last glacial maximum and at the end of the penultimate I love that word penultimate I love that word don't you it's great work.

2:28:30Yeah um So the the concentrations were high of lead during the ice age it's saying yeah So this does counter what he was saying see too Okay, but I'm not the expert I read I I understand where you say it but this goes far Far back but past when he was talking about so the the possibility could be that What Graham was saying might actually have some weight to it that there was a highly advanced civilization before the ice age And that it went away and then when you see lead in the future You're just seeing sort of a re -understanding of this process That that's one way to put it Yeah, I mean he doesn't have to be a really highly advanced civilization like ours Which means that there is Industrial activity whatever that shape of form that takes well the real fascinating thing is if the Egyptians had figured out how to generate power without any damage to the environment They Which is really wild we haven't yet No, but if they if they figured that out with that great pyramid if that that process is how they generated electricity I mean that's about as green as you're ever going to get Mm -hmm.

2:29:47I mean pretty amazing yeah There's a little factoid for you, but do you know in 2021 they quarried enough coal By weight to build a pyramid 76 times bigger than the great pyramid wow Well, so we know how to extract extract rock yeah Right they're collectively at least yeah Yeah, especially in China right oh, yeah, which is hilarious very efficient not the not not just that they're really good at making coal plants They're making they've got hundreds of new ones opening up. Yeah Well, we're over here freaking out Anything else before we get out of here Jamie you said that there was a couple other slides you thought were really interesting Oh, I mean, I just we kind of ended up getting to them.

2:30:38I was kind of really curious what that fan was all about but he described Yeah, there was one other thing I would like to Okay, if you don't please okay, so the other thing that The dr. Dibble mentioned Was when you raised the question about the core drilling right right and dr. Dibble Said that well, that's bendy bonked. I'm just paraphrasing now That's been bendy bonked and he referenced two sources. He referenced scientists against math and World of antiquity okay, so Scientists This is where you know the if you don't give it Enough information people will fill in the gaps you know the right of course you leave a back vacuum Engineers are very well known for leaving all kinds of vacuums.

2:31:39They don't explain Everything completely because they assume everybody knows it because they know it right And so it's the simplest thing and basically scientists against math they they sent me that paper on the methods that they used which um contradicted my methods and What they did is they went to they got these photographs two dimensional photographs of the of the ptry core and And they rejected the method that I used which was just a simple string or cotton thread with magnification with magnification and With the artifact in my hand so you've got best evidence in your hand and against evidence second hand with take them with folicus So what's wrong?

2:32:40What what is the problem with that And when I saw what method they use I didn't take it seriously Perhaps I should and then we won't be here Talking about it, but I didn't take it seriously and it's like It kind of failed on its face just after the first two pages plus it was very Insulting and mocking right? not very professional and But basically what they did is they took a 2D photograph of a 3D comb okay. I want to show you two things This is a flat blank and this is a comb um, okay So Aerospace manufacturing engineers know all about how how cones are made and they know How to measure them and they know how to transmit geometric data to the customer right our customers would never accept a 2D photograph of a 3D object As evidence of geometric accuracy or precision I mean a 3D camera with you know like a scanner or something like that, but just a simple To the maximum to the mention you won't want right two limited two limited But what happens to the what happens to the evidence when you take a I can't a 2D 2D photograph.

2:34:09I'll show you You have a corruption Of the evidence right away What happens with a 2D photograph taking a 3D object Go through these series of cones that are made these this is a A cone that has horizontal lines around it right? and You can see that there are horizontal. So you can assume okay. You take it I took a 2D photograph of this Okay I took 2D photograph of that And then I brought it into my computer But there are there are some things that happen uh to the arc length uh the arc length uh on the original If you take a 2D photograph You are using the cord length as the arc length you got all that on camera jimmy is it on both cameras another one pick it up Okay, right But there's another problem with it and it's not just geometry Well, it is ultimately is geometry, but it's more uh more involved with how the i works and how a camera functions and that's the lens And basically what you're doing is you're capturing an image and what of a cone And if you focus your camera here Right mm -hmm The lines here the curve that way the lines down here Curve this way okay, right?

2:36:04So you take those and you You Lay them out flat you've got corrupted evidence You project those images onto a cone in the computer And this is what happens you've got a bunch of Wavy lines Did you get that? Which indicates that it's a spiral No, it doesn't it this this is not to this is not to prove that it's a spiral This is to prove that the evidence that they have produced is not the best evidence right because it's only too dimensional Because they're right to really get the to refute your evidence. They should look at the thing and measure it Right accurately scan it, but it also it's too limited It also describes the state of mind of the investigators Who are working on this?

2:37:02And that is they are driving to a conclusion That is Directly opposite to mine So they're not acting in good faith With you read a scientific paper Or if you are working on On a scientific project if you're in school or if you're anywhere And so you prepare your report you publish your report You describe the methods that you use And the tools that you use How you did it and then you publish your results I did that And then somebody comes along behind you and they say Well, I Want to I want to see that for myself That's what you call falsification Process where you know a science who has Any theory has has to be falsifiable So somebody's if they said confide anything wrong with what you did Then you know they have to follow the same steps you did right to the letter right But they didn't do that they didn't do that clearly And also they didn't have access to the actual physical object.

2:38:22It's it doesn't indicate that they did They were just the only way you could really test they were just drawing down photographs from the internet So they were just trying to debunk it exactly and they were doing and what they're doing is silly but Then you have a college professor who scoops up all that research and they become cited sources in that work Well, he probably was just respecting their work and thinking that your work is one of those alternative Guys that's uh not not him a part of the system not a part of the academic system Yeah, and yeah, and so he just yeah, and he obviously he he works with seeds and things along those lines And that's his uh his Yeah, area of archaeology so he'd trust the other Yeah, yeah, you know, I'm not saying that uh I'm not saying that but what he said is his own You know, right you just say that the sources of I'm just saying that I mean he was he was certainly well -school and had the answers to some of these mysteries, right?

2:39:23And he had been given information uh and pretty much he Reeled it out when the question was raised The other thing that I thought of after the fact and we are actually kind of covered it But I never connected the dots was that one of the things that we were talking about when we were talking about go back to the Tepi The go back to Tepi was created by these people that didn't need agriculture because the place they lived was so bountiful Yeah, but what if they just didn't What if agriculture to them wasn't plants? What if agriculture was animal agriculture and they fed their animals with wild plants If the wild plants were in such abundance that they could just go out and chop down the wild plants and use them to feed their animals That's still agriculture, but it's not it's not plant agriculture.

2:40:16Yeah, I don't I so that's the difference I I forgot that while was happening and then after was like, ah, what did I connect those dots? Because go back to Tepi no one is disputing the time period of it It's 11 ,000 years ago, right? That's when it was covered intentionally 11 ,000 years ago So no one's disputing that but that puts it into the term of pre -agriculture And so what he was saying was that maybe where they lived was so bountiful With with food that they didn't need agriculture at the time possible But also are we only thinking of agriculture as plant agriculture and do we have to Grow plants in an agricultural setting to feed animals well doesn't that Entirely depend on how we're raising these animals because if these animals are free -ranging And you have an enormous area Then no, all right then you could harvest them Out free -ranging you could have Agriculture in terms of animals and you could have These animals that you're farming you're just farming them with wild plants And if you could do that for go to go back to Tepi which is what they're saying At least they're saying that Either they just hunted all the animals that were around there There were so many animals around them they could hunt them very easily to feed everybody So they'd have enough resources to build this thing Or maybe they had some kind of agriculture in terms of animal agriculture But just hadn't planted things Yeah Or hadn't had the need to plant things if they're living in such abundance Yeah, I don't know I don't know Uh, it's a good question though It is a good question Yeah All of it is good questions All of these good questions Yeah Citizen's coming forward and asking Raising their hands and saying Oh wait a minute what about this What about this and that's what you've done And listen I think you've done an amazing job of it And the way you explained it today uh, I really I really appreciate it It's it's great for a person like myself to be able to ask a person like you questions and get to this The heart of how this whole thing would work And I think you laid it out amazingly It's it's it's such a fascinating subject And so many mysteries and so many questions And I just want to thank you for putting in so much time And uh, having so much energy of your life dedicated to trying to figure this thing out Yeah, not All right Can I go take a nap now Yes you can go take a nap you did great Um tell everybody about your books though um so they could get them So anyway uh, yeah The first one was The Giza Power Plant Okay Technology is a ancient Egypt And then the newest one The newest one Is what does it say on that one Giza the Tesla Can they see it from there?

2:43:01Yeah, okay cool Giza the Tesla connection All right And those are available now Acoustical science and harvesting of clean energy All right Well thank you sir, I really appreciate you coming here I really enjoyed it And uh, it's uh, you're doing a great service You should uh, give those to Elon Musk Why he needs them? Well, if he's going to build electric cars He's going to need electricity for him All right, I'll um know I'll um know All right, thank you Thank you