#2146 - Deric Poston

41:19This is what it's important The selfish feeling that you want no you want no one to do better than you and you want to be like number one And then if you see people doing better than you you get angry that selfish feeling is it ruins you Because it ruins your relationships with people you could have the exact same circumstances happen and be super happy For everybody for you and for you there's no tension. There's no need to it. There's no need for it And if someone makes you feel bad I give you watch someone like they're so good they make you feel bad go to work Good work. It's a good feeling.

41:51That's a good. That's good when the tell was in town I want to watch it to tell be like I want to go home and write. I want to go home and write this this fucking guy is like He's like a Zen master up there. He's like effortlessly killing yes in a way that's like so and so ridiculous and so unique I was like God is this so good, but if you're a hater That's poison you're watching you're getting the exact opposite feeling from the same Exact scene the same scene you there's guys that well I've seen guys sitting in the back room. They were watching Chris rock and they're watching Chris rock with their arms cross like this like Watton him to suck wanting him to suck not wanting him to do well not not just enjoying it enjoy him This is why you get a great guess aren't you a fan of this?

42:37Well, no one has to be you. You're the only one to be funny. That's crazy. That's crazy You can't have a good time so you're missing out on having a good time just so you could be selfish There's a zero upside and it ruins your light like now you're at home at like it's just ruins your day You're all white like everything's ruined and if someone does fail that you wanted to fail and you feel good You should be embarrassed you should be embarrassed by that feeling What a weak bitch. I got you with the Sebastian you should be You should be embarrassed You really should 100 % but I think this is all like People need to learn this you need to learn this and learn it in a way where it doesn't feel bad if you take it on You don't feel like a fool because we've all been fools.

43:27I've been a fool Everyone's in this room. Everyone listening has been a fool. Yeah, we've all been in fucking moron That's how you learn and grow in life But if you stick to the old ways you'll just be unhappy and mentally ill Yeah, yeah, your therapist not gonna save you I mean, I learned you might even remember this I learned a young a lesson a young that in comedy being young and just talk Too much and just being kind of angry and wanting more as a door and you talked to me I don't know if you remember that you got on me one time. Hey, Derek. You got a shut up, man I don't even remember you telling me to do this.

44:00What was this was at the store? This was at the store I'll just run it on mouth complaining about I want more. I just wanted more I just want to more and I was talking too much and the day I you know Want to get all of this if I was talking too much and you did that and it was that was good. I Needed that yeah, sometimes we get wrapped up in our own shit like the the process is long Like if I was trying to tell someone right now to be a comic and they were like 26 years old I'd be like Okay, you ain't gonna be famous until you're 40 If you make it if you if you make it you know You got to be willing to throw it all away and you got to be willing to go through this weird path Where you want things and they're not happening and you get angry and that's where you were yes You were you wanted things and I was like Derek you got to be undeniable.

44:52Yes You got to be undeniable when you're undeniable. It's all gonna come your way But all this talk it's not good for anybody Didn't it's crazy. You just don't it. But it's I'm glad I went through that you know what I mean? I'm glad that I that happened to me because it was at the time it felt like you know You're like, oh, but man I'm glad I went through it because now it's just so much better to Enjoy appreciate it. Yeah, and it's almost like you have to go through I had those feelings I remember being in an open mic night and I wasn't on the list. I couldn't get on the list I was angry like why can't I go up this bullshit?

45:22Yeah, I'm funny. I'm this person. You start saying things like that and it's like What is it stupid? It's just like you just have to deal with the grind. It's like the part It's part of the thing part of the thing. It's like what makes you better It's like those uncomfortable things they build inside of you those uncomfortable moments and feelings they add Inspiration they add determination they add discipline they make you focus more. Yes, make you listen to tapes They make you go over your go through your notebook You know man I really appreciate those comedy store times I think everyone should be not a dog I have a man.

45:55It's just it's good. I think it's just good for you to just Sit and learn you have no choice. You're there dope about the comedy store, too Was the fact that there was a real attitude that everyone was a comic including the door piece. Yes The door people to me were me when I was 23. I was like, what's up? What's going on man? Yeah, everything cool? You mentioned big hug first thing you said yo, what's up? I remember like it's yesterday, dude. All you guys oh, man. Yeah The coolest thing I one of the coolest things about stand up that I learned from you Joe It was so when I got there you were finishing trigger like you were you were that was about to come out So you were doing the on the stool bit in the cave and gin.

46:34I mean it was so tight You were going crass standing. Oh, every time you did it. It was not then the special came out and then you start Gearing up for strange times and the only person I've ever heard they say would do this was Richard prior where he would come in after you Drop a special and he would bang out material and you'd see it for the first time you're like, okay I kind of see the skeleton. I saw the skeleton of strange times I was like, oh, yeah, I guess and then the next day you'd see the little bit of muscle on it and the next you didn't You never abandoned it even though it wasn't hitting like how the other stuff was hitting or something I said wasn't going as well as maybe you wanted it to you never abandoned it You never were like oh my do crowd work.

47:07I'm gonna say an old bit and get out of this no and then ever and then I saw Strange times but come strange times and that was amazing to see you take so long time to get a bit going And if you bail on it when you throw every one of my bits except for a few sucked in the beginning There's just they're clunky. Yes, you don't know how to do it right you can see you were trying to find it You know a terrible process terrible. It's terrible process. It really is it's terrible process Brian Simpson did it the smartest way well Brian did was he had his whole hour laid out and then before he filmed his hour He created a new hour So he started adding Material to set over the course of a year till you had another hour and so then he films the special and he's got an extra hour That's Brian Simpson Brian Simpson plans to the future.

47:58He has a socks laid out by his bed He's playing for the future Brian gave me a book on what to do if the world collapses He gave us all that book. Yeah Like the book of manners. Yeah, whatever is the book. It's called I think it's called the book It's how to rebuild society. I'm like what the fuck are you planning Brian's got books planned on how to save society. Yeah, he's one of one man. Yeah We're real lucky. We're real lucky and he's another guy that came out here really early. Yeah, so when everybody was out here early You know, I had gone through this thing where I had the first club and The the deal fell apart the cult house the cold house.

48:42Yeah, it's got down glad we didn't get that one That would have ruined everything. Yeah, that would not have been as no because the placement of this one It's perfect. The fact that it's on that maniac street. Yeah. Yeah, that street's a lot Yeah, I like that because that's an audience member when you get there you're like You're now awake. You don't get the wandered in like it's not in a mall or some shit It's like no, you're awake now But when the deal fell through with the cult place and then we walked into that movie theater when it was a movie theater still I remember walking in I go oh shit I got okay.

49:15This is it was so clear It was like you hear a sound in the distance of the direction you're supposed to go till you're bone Okay, here we go That's how felt the really felt like that felt like god damn man. This place is alive This place has like it's got memories Yes, Stevie Ray Stevie Ray Vaughn was on that stage. Willie Nelson was on that stage. Willie Nelson was on that stage Yeah, man. All those dudes in the green room all those posters are in the green room. Yeah, those are all real shows from the ritz Yeah, I did not know that. Yeah, man a lot a lot of bands played there a lot of bands Yeah, so you could feel it in the walls.

49:54There's a lot of things happen in that place It used to be a pool hall. It used to be a newty movie theater at one point in a row Buckets there's Use a movie theater for the longest time where it was a almo draft house. That was like more than 10 years It was a it was a lot of things, you know, it was a punk rock bar at one point in time Yeah, it was a that place has got history. It's from 1827 I'm 19 1927 right is that right? Yeah, 1927. Yeah 1927 1927. It's 100 years old essentially or close to it I mean, it's very comedy store vibes in that because the commissaries to be zeros And it was like where the mafia would be like all this cool weird stories and feel the building you can feel it Yeah, and that you know, this does have that mitsies feels feel in a mitsies late night.

50:44It's far like yeah energy in that Well, it's also the energy has been baked in just in the year that we've been open. Yeah bro that year flew by Okay, you're flew by If you live by flew by it makes me think I'm gonna be dead real How much time do you have go this time if I go through 50 more of those it'll be a miracle So it's not that's not gonna happen. I know go through 50 of them. It's not possible Wow, and did you think that when you set it up like I'm setting this up for when I'm gone this baby that this like the comedy story It'll just run well. Well, I want I didn't think that no I just thought to set up the best thing you can set up.

51:25That's all I thought I thought like I have this Crazy unique moment where not only did the world shut down in Texas didn't but also all these comedians came out here to do shows And I got this Spotify deal And I'm like, okay, I'm supposed to do this like if anybody's supposed to do this like if you were a kid and they said to you If you got all this money, what would you you know what I do I make the ultimate of using park Just a man my friends, but nobody ever does that You know like people get fuck you money and they never say fuck you and I don't get that Like if you have fuck you money and you don't say fuck you What you're doing is it's a crime against fortune You have the incredible fortune to have fuck you money The incredible luck the incredible fortune To be in this weird position where all these comedians decided to come to this place because you and your friends were there I mean we like Ron whites the he's the fucking leader of the pack.

52:28Hi, Piper. He's the pipe Piper because Ron was out here before COVID Ron was out here in like 2017 I think or 18 was he retired yet already or no he wasn't retired He was like I fly out of Austin. It's much easier. You're in the middle You can fight fucking two and a half hours in New York two and a half hours L .A. Fucking people are nice foods amazing. I was like damn maybe I could because I had always entertained leaving L .A But the store just always kept me there the store and my friends. Yeah, jujitsu I mean I tried for a while tried moving to Colorado for a little bit But the store always pulled me back.

53:05It's like that. There's you can't replicate that He's just you did Yeah, well, it's not like there's no other way could have ever happened It had all those things had to happen in place where the comedy store had to get shut down So we can get all the people that worked at the comedy store to come over and start the mothership people that like Eric Curtis and Adam Yeah, and Jody and and Carrie Carrie Carrie's the shit like it wasn't for Carrie the mom She's the best but she was always the best at the store So when she's over there. It's like oh, this is wonderful You know and then she knew all the right servers and then you know we get this vibe going and then the whole idea and Adams It was Adam's idea to do it the same way the store was I was a little apprehensive like man comics cause problems in their employees Like a lot of us are dirt bags a lot of us are crazy Joe I robbed the communist I robbed that fucking place I'm sure you would just I mean I mean we're hustling cuz it's like well.

54:11I'm only making a couple bucks. I didn't get up I'm gonna fucking hustle this door trying to stay alive trying to say a lot Yeah, I mean, but there was that problem Those like but Adam was like yeah, but you know what there's something really cool about people like auditioning And because now Adam is running it so we didn't have to have this like We just one of the things that I told him because there's a pressure that he had an LA to to have like X amount of women and X amount of gay people like people talked about it and they would email him They'd complain to him people would confront him, you know how can we have more women on your lineup girls?

54:48Girl comics to say I said listen man This is 100 % meritocracy. I know you're not sexist. I know you're not racist. I know you're not a homophobic You don't care. Oh you care what you speak the language of funny This will be a pure meritocracy and if you're really good you're gonna get through and if you're bullshitting and just using Whatever the fuck group you're a part of as like a willy -wank a golden ticket It's gonna get you a career fuck you. Okay. That shit doesn't work here. Yep. You know I love that and with that there is a the best way to make a diverse show is just like you said put the funniest people up the show will naturally It will naturally diversify itself baby.

55:30We have so many different people working there everybody's different And different in all kinds of ways there's gay and straight and there's black and white and action no one fucking cares Yep, I'm even noticing because I would think of this funny no one cares. Yeah, no one cares all the cares. Are you funny? Yep Can you go up there and do the damn thing? I saw I did 9 -11 no one gives a fuck. He's just a funny dude We all just forgive him. It's how funny you that piece of shit is Boy, he's coming a long way man that Joey Diaz was just telling me on the phone yesterday I was on the phone with Joey.

56:04Yes, he's like a son blew my mind. He goes he blew my mind I remember that game when he was just start now Yeah, he's out there. He's fucking Joey's coming. He's coming. Joey's moving. He's coming again in a couple weeks He's gonna be back. He's gonna be back for quite a while and then we're gonna get him a place He's gonna get a place on just in the neighborhood He's moving. He's got a move here. He can't stay in New Jersey And I'll do your suspect in New Jersey, but I'll do respect He needs to be around his peers. You saw it when he was here He's feeling on a man and at the days went how much more comfortable like he oh he started moving like Joey When Joey be in the main room and it was like that when he left that man He's he's in he's back.

56:44Oh shit. His wife's down to she gets it. She's the best She's the best so it's perfect So when Joey gets here that'll change everything god damn. That's gonna change everything Joey's working on Theo. Theo's coming soon. He's gonna be here What's to the it's gonna be here in 10 days Yeah, so we'll have Theo here for a couple weeks and then Theo said he might come down for the whole month of July You're fucking Samuel Jackson with the Avengers baby I'm recruiting man. I'm recruiting But I only want people that want to be here like if you don't want to be here. It's like I get it I get it. I get it.

57:23There's no pressure. You don't have to come here, but it would be nice It's fun with Joe DeRose. We got a place here. Joe DeRose. Let's go The man Everyone you're saying but everyone you're saying also great phenomenal beast of a comic Yeah, and nice people great that's the big thing The big thing is all real friendly real nice people and the more more that the better and there's plenty of spots There's so many clubs and red bands clubs killing it. Yes, you get how was it 13 second walk from my club to red bands club You can get up. Yeah, you got three times right right next door Creek in the cave always a great room.

57:56Yep right right down the street this little place black rabbit Which I love right there. You'll get up. I mean they're all within a black rabbit to and stand up now How long have they been doing stand up? I don't know how long they've been open, but uh That's a remain as I mean, it's just such a little 50 seat box. Mm -hmm So me and a son just love that little smile and bro the Vulcan is still a banger of a club shout out to the Vulcan Yep, if you can get up there, that's a great fucking show. Oh, the Vulcan is a great room And then you can drive over to cap city. I mean, it's kept us alive Joe right?

58:25It's the deal. It kept blood in his throat. That place was like a mask that we were all sharing like scuba diving Just We give it to each other. Yeah, we're staying alive, you know, that shows us a lot those two's they Wednesday Thursdays Just yeah, that place kept us alive and then of course kill Tony Haven't killed Tony in a town changes the town because now all that There's all these temptations to go down the road of fuckery when you're first on stage You want to try to like Make yourself out to be something you wish you were you want people to think you're smart You know how people think you're cool and if you have five minutes Sometimes five minutes is too much in the beginning.

59:08You really don't deserve five minutes. You deserve a minute Is everyone minute? There should be a bunch of people doing one minute and this should be like belts Like you're a white belt. You just started out. Okay, you've been doing comedy six months eight months Maybe you're ready for your blue belt depends on how much you get on stage And then a couple years after that now you're purple belt now you're opening up for really good comics when they're on the road You know this guy's in town you can open forum Colin Quinn wants you to open forum. Oh shit now you're purple belt Now you start going on the road as a middle act now your brown belt You know now you might have 20 murderous minutes, you know You might be doing stand -up six seven years.

59:43You're a brown belt now And then eventually you move into headlining and then you get your black belt and then you realize like oh people are coming to see me Okay, I gotta work. You know they're coming to see me That's a different thing sit down, you know like it has to take probably like I will run away from a conversation if I get an idea because I know they're slippery They're slippery. They slip through your fingers sometimes sometimes you just have a great idea Like like my family gets it my wife gets I'll go hang on. I got an idea. I have an idea I just have to say I have an idea and everybody leaves me around and I just run away I run away so no one could talk to me and I grab my phone and I just start either talking into it Which is the best because then I can keep it quicker or I start writing it That's beautiful, bro.

1:00:27I've seen you do that where you're just completely You know what Neil Brennan said to me once he said I think of my notebook is like a net that I catch my ideas in I was like oh Oh Neil Brennan's a smart motherfucker. That's a great. That's a great quote. That is because it's exactly what it is It's the moment you do the thing where you're like oh you think of something like I'm gonna write it down later Yeah, it's gone bro. You know why I've been thinking about going to Android because Samsung phones when you If you record your sets. Yeah transcribes them Really? Yeah with AI and it'll summarize it for you Crazy that's fucking Brian Simpson's right about that too That fucking galaxy phone Tony's always making fun of him and I'm like Tony Do you understand what that phone can do that phone can translate like built into the phone can translate you talking to a ton of different languages Like instantaneously translate Why are we still on iPhones because we're trapped Also, it's a safer operating system.

1:01:26That's the thing that I've been really getting into I've been really like researching like exploits and I watched a watch quite a few videos, but I also read a story Where they were talking about when they were trying to see they had an iPhone and an Android phone And they checked to see which one was contacting foreign servers based on the apps And it was like way more the Android the Android was contacting foreign servers way more contacting China and Russia and the iPhone one was like One or two a day and it's based on There's a lot of shit going on that we're not thinking about right What you're what you're interested in is valuable So if you're scrolling through Google and you're looking at a bunch of different products You're looking at a bunch of different things Google gets that information and then it search those ads into your browser So then when you go to a website and you say like oh, I was looking at those shoes.

1:02:23How do those shoes for sale right here? It's just click here, you know tells you the price. Yeah, what a bargain and you think about it That's valuable right and so that's what they're constantly trying to scoop up they're trying to scoop up your data They want to know what you're doing what you're listening to what you're watching What do you what do you what you got Netflix? What do you got this you got that you got YouTube premium? What do you got you got money? Are you broke you got a Tesla? Oh, who's got a Tesla? You got a Tesla app There's so there's all this data that your phone carries and iPhone is pretty good at keeping that data They're like a closed system right and that what they call them.

1:02:57Yeah, a walled garden. Yeah Android is not so good at that. Android is the opposite seems like it's it's got open source which is really good So a bunch of different people can make apps But the problem with that is you could get apps that are malware you can get apps that will get that will in fact You're a wild motherfucker just downloading every app that's on the play store I don't think they do as good job and I think you can't you side load on Android as well So this pros and cons man this pros to like if you make an Android app like you could just say you know Why is there a fucking app for this and you could design an app that does it and then just throw it up on the play store And people could just download it and put it but you could be a criminal and you could put some shit on On you know either side loading or put some shit on you know One of these places where you can download apps and inside that is someone could just steal all your credit card information on your phone If you're using like You know Google pay some good random Google thing yeah pay power some shit There's apps that can they can when you sign up for tiktok they can They know your keystrokes they know all your keystrokes so everything you type it knows Not only that it has access to computers that don't have Tiktok on them that are on the network So if you you have a computer but your computer doesn't have tiktok but you have tiktok on your phone They have access to your computer I know that sounds crazy that sounds like that couldn't be real Joe why would they do that?

1:04:31I think it's more than them and this is what Adam Curry said like Adam Curry saying like this is a tiktok band He goes believe me he goes the real problem with tiktok is that they're doing a better job of keeping people addicted And that they don't like the idea that China is dominating this social media games. Yeah Tiktok is good. It's good. They figured out her way to make it very very very addictive but They're getting data constant data of what you like what you're interested in What you get mad about what you comment on how you comment what you like with hearts, you know what you Yeah, what you keep going back to and don't tell anybody about Yeah If you look in your fucking if you're looking your your your search And it's all but it's all that but it's all fat butts And they know you like fat butts, you know Yeah, look at other people's feeds are very very different than mine if you look in that like search.

1:05:29Oh, yeah Area on Instagram like it's basically they know me they know what I like. Yep animal tax Fast cars Nice butts Yeah, it's like But that data is super super super valuable and it's all on like how does one get access to that data You know, do you get to access through some sneaky backdoor shit or do you get access the normal way And but Apple does a better job of protecting your information, I think yeah And you know, I think too Joe while we don't want to change. It's something about the blue Mm -hmm. I don't know what it's something about I send the blue to you. I get a blue back. I like that Yeah, we're on the same team.

1:06:14We're on the same fucking With the fuck is wrong with us, Joe Those group workout texts and we send and we have they have to go green because of fucking Brian Brian We have multiple jets even though Apple is adopting this rcs platform. So rcs It's not platform. What would you call it? Protocol. Thank you. Rcs is What is it called rich something I forget what it stands for but but it basically is is like most of the way to an i message But through text message because right now a text messaging rich communication services So that's the standard that everybody else is operating on that Google's operating on so if if I have a Google phone And I text you to a Samsung phone it will be like that rcs.

1:07:04It's encrypted Green bubbles may not be going anywhere, but they're still hope for less archaic messaging experience So rcs is now going to be on iPhones with I think iOS 18 Is that what it is? I think it comes out By the end of the year so by the end of the year like right now if a Brian sends me a text message And it is a picture in it that picture is going to look very dark shit. Yes, it's gonna be compressed if he sends me a video It's nonsense. I can't barely see it. It's like a little tiny square We have to go on WhatsApp or signal and on signal he can send me the whole video And I just I got the video now But there's so many things you can't do the the big one is facetime facetime is big I love I get random facetimes from friends sometimes and I love it.

1:07:54Yeah, I love it Bert will send me a random one. I was uh, we were um, I was hanging with Brian This is a big moment to a school moment. I was hanging with Brian at the black keys We want to see the black keys at stubs And we're chilling backstage in that outside area You know that outside the cool area and we're hanging out with the black keys and Dave Shepel facetimes me So uh, so I'm I'm hanging out with Dave and Dave sees Brian and he goes oh What's up dog and they start talking he goes hey, I love you man. I think you're really fun So they're like going back if I'm like this is amazing like Brian is getting recognized by Dave And he was like he was beaming afterwards.

1:08:33You see Brian was like, you know, I can't imagine It was great. I love those fucking random facetime calls Love the births times we don't all the time. I love a random facetime call from a friend. It's a beautiful It's like calls from people random calls from people annoying me like why you call me bro? Yeah, what do you want? A facetime it's usually just something funny. It's just some fun someone cool cool people Like when cool people send you a facetime. It's like wow, that's pretty badass. That's pretty badass. Can I Dave Shepel? Yeah Can he introduce me to you my introduction to Joe Rogan was Joe Rogan.

1:09:08We're gonna look for a pair of New York I never heard of you before dog I was like, who the fuck is that Rogan? You know, that was a accident What I wasn't supposed to be on that yeah, I was walking down the street and I saw Dave with a fake mustache on I'm like, what are you doing man? I was in New York doing stand -up. So I was doing a club And I was walking down the street and I ran into Bobcat gold weight You know Bobcat's the best and Bobcat was directing Dave on his first episode and so Bobcat was there I go, what are you guys doing? I go, what's Dave? I'm a fucking mustache man He's like, hey Joe, you want to be on my show?

1:09:46I go, what do I have to do? He's like we're gonna hand out Ribbons for the best New York boobs. I go, yeah, I got like an hour And then I have to meet some people for dinner and then we're gonna go to do my show Yeah, you know, so let's yeah, let's do it So for one hour like walked around with Dave where I carried around a bunch of buttons, I think Dave has his crazy fake mustache So this is awesome Looking for great New York boobs now. I want you to think of this. This is 2002, I guess yeah has to be 2002 or 2003 whatever I guess to imagine how crazy different New York is Wow in just 22 years.

1:10:30I was there the other day. I don't yeah, this guy is dangerous now and this same area. Look at me with the full head air Crazy oh, they blurred someone out because he didn't sign the release see that one person with their face blurred out see that no release Yeah, they blurred that lady out She's interesting. They blur people. Oh, I saw his face. I know that guy He's like these should too. They did a shitty job.

1:10:57Oh That's illegal now. Oh, they would be so mad. Oh my god. Are you kidding me that BS off? Yeah That's slavery that'd be everything to be everything. I have you going to jail. I got one interaction with Dave's failed I'm gonna hold on to this forever. This is why being a dog as the best show. I'm parking cars one night All right, and it's my turn. I'm waiting to go up in the belly room. It's two people in that motherfucker too But I'm what you know, I'm wait finally my turn one of my other dog friends. Shut up matlock. What he's bringing on station He does it's only two people in the room. He's fucking around this next comic used to sleep on my cow.

1:11:27She's a piece of shit I think he smoked all my weed you know, you know Dave walks in during the during the and it's going to go on as he's still bringing me up and the date and I'm like looking now like Bring me up bring me up. Come on like Dave's in the room bring me up, right? He keeps going and the day goes all right I'm going out Dave walks up He's like my friends like oh shit guys Dave should help two people are like what the fuck He grabs a mic and he goes. I don't know who Derek Poston was, but that niggas credits were terrible and I Then I go down cuz now I'm going watching them and then of course the room filled up as the night went on It's Dave he's there for a couple hours and then I'm downstairs parking cars again It's like Dave's looking for you I run back up and he Dave's going, you know yada yada, you know d 'areg I'm gonna bring you up.

1:12:18You know, you deserve a shot. You deserve a chance and all that stuff and I'm like yo Thank you man. He goes oh shit. Making you black. I wouldn't have bought you To people that's a little bit by the end though it was told out and it was crazy I've seen people come in the room. Yeah, and it just that was just such a like man I'm so glad that had crazy memory Dave is a real artist in that like he embraces this process of just Exploring things on stage and it's how he writes so like people will complain about it Yeah, that's a plane that he goes for so long like you don't understand you're watching like you're watching George St.

1:13:05Pierre lift weights, okay? That's what you're watching like you you're gonna see the fight eventually right now you're watching George do squats Yeah, it looks more yeah, but you're getting a rare opportunity and it's not it's Not the same experience right like if you see Dave with a tight set. He's filming an epic special He's gonna murder he's gonna murder son. Oh murder murder murder death kill Right, but the process of creating that murder death kill is like a boiling down process you start off with an idea Dave will just run that idea raw. Yeah, yeah, someone film him and then he goes over it He pieces it apart and tries to figure out what was good and what was bad and why it worked and why it didn't work Yeah, and operate on that level of doing it for four hours and doing it at three in the morning where it's like no They're done.

1:13:54Yeah, they're beyond tired. They've been beat to shit. It's two a .m But if he can get 10 minutes out of that or five minutes or one minute It's worth it because you do 50 of those shows you got a new hour Yeah That's the thing I mean nobody wants a bomb Chris Rock used to do it all the time He used to tell people like someone would kill at the store and Chris would show up and he would like purposely Bring the audience down he goes real acts. He's saying gonna be very good He would tell them I've seen him once do that where he straight up off the notepad and he was like What do you say he's I'm going over the skeleton of it right now guys like he was pretty much like him This is the you're getting the bare bones mm -hmm It was like whoa Yeah, and that's the way to do it Damon Wayne's just do that too.

1:14:35Damon was great at that man Damon is the most unsung of the greats. Yeah, yeah, my opinion. I remember Damon's HBO special Lat the last stand was fucking excellent Excellent dude, and he was one of the first dudes that I saw on stage when I came to LA that was like a famous guy That's not by was like oh shit Damon Wayne's is here dude. He was excellent Excellent and he would do that too. He would explore ideas He would just go up there and just fuck around for a long -ass time. Wow. Yeah And you know back then like Damon doesn't get the respect that he deserves He doesn't get the love anymore people don't because he did sit comms and shit He kind of got out of the comedy loop did movies people forgot but dude I am telling you man when he was on who he was a it was a master very like Shepelle very very much that level masterful is this dirty is like in living color time Wow, bro Damon wayans is one of the all -time greats.

1:15:35He just doesn't get appreciated the way he should Wow my opinion I mean I've seen these guys live like when they were in their prime and Damon was he was just so clever and so silly and he would be laughing It was genuine laughter and he was having a good -ass time on stage and talking about ridiculous shit He was great man He was great and he was another one of those guys that would just take his time He would just go up there with some bear he would show up on fucking Wednesday night 11 o 'clock. Oh Damon's here Damon's gonna go up and they'd let him up and if 15 fucking people in the crowd He'll be on stage for an hour For an hour just fucking around and just trying to come up with bits Trying to find out if there's something there and put digging a little hole so he has to dig himself out Yeah, you know trying to laugh at stuff You you have interesting process because you do that to yourself you'd be like all right Who's the most famous who the best comics in the world?

1:16:30Let me do an hour and a half of that and then I'll go up They've been beat to shit my shame Gillis and Ron white Tony and split prime Simpson a sign of mine Yeah, then you go up and it's like what the fuck is running with wait on That's what it is. Yeah, you run with wait on you gotta hit that stage running You know I learned that going on after Joey Because Joey Joe and it fit for 15 minutes Joey Diaz will punch a hole in the space time Joey Diaz get punched a fucking hole in reality and 15 20 minutes of Joey Diaz is just like following that is you got to come on stage like fully engaged Yeah, and one of the things you see from guys that tour with soft acts The tour with like weak opening acts and that's all the comedy they do they they get soft You get soft in like your appreciation for the audience's attention span or soft for have you made that bit the best that it could be or is it just Attiquit is it working but it or is it like optimized like where's it at is it where you're happy with it Or if you just kind of accepted that's the form it's in because you do it that way every night you know and When you go on after murderers, there's no room for anything but tight yet everything has to be tight You have to be really there and engaged people have seen an hour and a half of comedy before you even go on stage Yeah, an hour and a half of murderers murderers Yeah murderers I get so jealous to have sitting in the back god damn.

1:18:03Why can I go on now? Half an hour in the show You're doing it to yourself. That's amazing But I think that's the best way to do it. It's the best way for me. Yeah, I don't think I've ever been sharper like right now It's sharp. Yeah, if then that's what it is I think it's just concentrating. It's like everything else. Man. It's like how much do you think about it? You know, I would say that like doing stand -up is like let's say if you have What is a value? Let's give a value of doing stand -up be given a value of 100 Okay, if you watch yourself to stand up That's like 50 or 60 So it's like an extra set almost if you do two watches and one performance It's like you did two sets.

1:18:47That's what I think listening to it listening to it is like 40 or 50 But it's better than zero. It's definitely better than zero So if you could force yourself to listen and your forces have to watch Those add up like in terms of the overall amount of effort you've put into what you're doing Right, so it's not just the time you're on stage But it's also how much do you think about it afterwards because if you could just grab it after It's I don't want to do it when I get home when I got home I want to like watch YouTube videos on ancient civilization. Yeah, yeah, you know Yeah, I don't want to write but if I force myself then I get fired up and then I and then once I'm in it Now I get it now I feel it and if I could force myself to listen to recordings or Watch a recording after I do it.

1:19:35I'm so much more engaged the next time I do it It like everything Everything like moves up a notch so instead of it being a value of 100 because I just did a show I did the show and then I listened to it and then I wrote more so that now it's almost like I did two shows Yeah, where you watching yourself? You're right because it makes you Completely live the set over again. You're doing it again. Yeah, and seeing all the holes Seeing the yeah, and you don't have to carry the psychic weight of keeping the set going right so you have no anticipation you know what I already went well I already saw it I was there so let me watch it like like just chill and just watching I'm just saying it like that.

1:20:13That's too long. I could cut that out like everybody knows what I'm saying I'm gonna cut it out get to a quicker, you know, yeah, like figure out this that like you learn how to get to things quicker when you work with killers too You learn the right like one of the things that I love about Joey is he sneaks he sneaks up on you like his is punch on it Sneak up on you like you don't know where they're coming and then they nail you and he's moving fast He's moving fast. So you're not gonna you're not gonna keep up with them already and then on top of that He's sneaky with how he works in the punchline.

1:20:43Yeah, it's a great way to describe it. Yeah, it's like a Economy of words economy of words Joey Deez is the very best at it I was telling this one joke. Here's my favorite Joey Deez joke goes. I like transvestites They cook they clean you can beat him every once in a while the cops come who's gonna believe me? So I'm doing a wig and a black eye Yeah, that's a Joey Deez Like what that's a great point cuz it's like it keeps going but it's also it's like it's absurd You know, he's not really beating up transvestites. You know, it's like it's not real like when he talks about He'll say the most ridiculous shit and it's outrageous and it's exaggerating But it's part of the fun of the Joey Deez show you don't think he's really out there beating up transvestites like that It's like the whole thing.

1:21:30It's like he's a cartoon. It's amazing. He's so fun man He's my favorite person to watch ever. Yeah, oh my god. I think I don't I mean there's great comedians Yeah, yeah, I don't want to say like who's the goat because I don't like it I don't like the talk. I think we're very fortunate today that we have guys like Chappelle and a tell and Shane and you and everybody and Tony Sholt's sholt's sholt's he's killing it right now. Oh god on that roast that guy Oh my god, he's so likable too even when he was shitting all over Danaway He's got a big smile on his face. Oh My god, he's funny. He's a great person to man.

1:22:08He's a great person like a great human being I look at him like an actual big brother. That guy's beautiful. I got I love him to death But it's like we're real fortunate that we have all these people together We're real fortunate, but for me like Where I've laughed where I can't stay in my seat and I'm on the ground or I'm slapping tables or we'll hug at each other It's Joey. Yeah, it's Joey Joey hits he hits an RPM that I don't think anybody else hits It's a it's a because of who he is his background The chaos of his life this Phoenix emerging from the ashes of Co -cudiction and all that like he's just got a wildness in a love about him too That's the other thing he's a loving Beautiful person like he hugs everybody.

1:22:55He's a beautiful person and when he gets wild on stage man There's nothing like it. It's like a family reunion laugh It's like from your spirit when he gets you laughing. Yeah, yeah, you love him You want to hug him when you're laughing with them. Yeah, yeah, yeah And that so he was like the best guy to take on the road too Because it was like the party was with us Everywhere, you know, it was a party. Yeah, we're going to nice restaurants. We dinner Joey Dizz is telling stories about Robin people You tell you a story about kidnapping a drug deal with machine gun and you're fucking crying laughing Like oh my god, you're not disturbed like why would you do that?

1:23:34Did you plan on shooting him? Yeah Just none of that just fun. Yeah, the road is where you like I truly think I'm the most lucky dude in comedy right now Ever I mean my weeks Joe I'm with Tuesday Wednesday Thursday I'm with you Shane Gillis Brian Simpson in the wrong way Don't ask me and my weekends. I'm with Andrew shows. Yeah, and that's it. I'm just I'm full on in a masterclass 24 -7 but you you're lucky But you also did all the work to get you to that place You did all it's like you can't just be lucky because you have to also There's no shortcuts to creating bits like this you have they have to be made you have to do them You have to perform you have you did the work man if you weren't ready when Tony recommended you to Andrew it wouldn't work You had to have done all that work if you half -stepped at any point in your career you took time off Start to try a job for a little bit you did this you did that you got married you kids you can't go on the road now Because now you have a mortgage Bro you went down the path and you could do anything now because now you're in But the beginning is sketchy man.

1:24:47You're just going to get it. That's what I'm saying if I had it It was a 26 year old today and they're like I'm gonna go to open mic night. So must start stand up We're like okay All right, I'll see you at mile one hundred My oh Run ultra marathon. You don't need people finish those Dude I know way more hey finish stand -up careers way more way way way way way more way more way way way way Way more people finish one hundred mile races that start them then have become a comic that start doing stand -up and finish I'm realizing this as you're saying it when you're doing the math you're hit of like yeah people do finish those races Yeah, they finish up my friend cam's run like a dozen of them at least.

1:25:32He's probably run 20 of them Goggins he ran I think Goggins did something crazy where we ran like 20 of them in a month What it was his record he had some crazy fucking record. I might be selling it short It a month he just he just sent me a text message yesterday about how he climbed Mount Everest with his fucking Versa climber Do you know what a Versa climber? No, they're horrible. We have one out there But even the in the gym. It's an amazing workout. This is that thing whoa this motherfucker climbed Mount Everest And he sent me he sent me an image of it hold on a second. This is how many date they would take him days, right?

1:26:10I don't think so what no, he's the he'll do it in one session. He's out of his fucking mind man He did eight one hundred mile races in a row That's insane That's insane in over how long I'm trying to see But he did more than that because over a year There was some crazy number that he did in one year. There's another this isn't two This is from ultra runner magazine 2005 he decided to take on the ultra marathon challenge which involved running over 3 ,100 miles across the United States from San Francisco To New York without taking any days off Jeez, my the fuck no one had ever achieved before did he do it?

1:26:51I'm trying to find that out because I was trying to answer both questions the same time That seems like you died before you decide that Despite having never running more than 13 miles prior to this challenge. You completed it in just over 65 days What the fuck man 13 miles that's all he ever done fuck man 13 across the whole country by the way, he did it with destroyed knees His knees are all fucked up his knees are like he's got no cartilage and shit from me and a seal From all sorts of things But I think he was born with like he's one of his knees was kind of fucked up like malformed and then the years and years and years of punishment Yeah injuries from being a seal from growing through buds Just from the years of training like his knees are destroyed.

1:27:39They're destroyed. He's had crazy operations on his knees Is that him? That was a hundred about how jacked he was Damn son look at that fucking build shoulders dude That's crazy little to no food Wow, he finished the race in 19 hours on broken legs and in kidney failure There's also that story where he was doing one and he went off track and so got like off pace And then the next day he woke up and did it again bro look out jacked There kid kid am I wrong kid me failure can kill you right 100 % what the fuck look out jacked He was Jesus Christ I'm jealous I want to be like that. That's ridiculous He looks like fucking yo He's incredible I'm jealous of jealous of that body I bet do you know he's jacked?

1:28:31I'm at 50 cents this week. Oh 50 cents a big Pro remember when he was young rock when he was he'd be on stage shirtless shirtless is shredded I mean yeah, I was I was looking at him. I think he's I think 50 cents 50 And he's fucking shredded. Yeah, he's a big fella boy this this whole rap world the rap beef. I'm glad. I'm I'm ignorant to it I'm on the outside I'm on the outside like people keep bringing it up and Tony keeps trying to get him No, you're not dragging me into this nonsense. No, it's a at this point. It's great I've never seen a rap beat like this. This is they're going to the back and forth I saw a great drake release another one yesterday because they've gone back and forth now four times a piece So what does someone have to tap out here?

1:29:11So is this to the death? I don't I saw a great comment and say that this point these niggas are just doing an album together like after after eight songs Going back a foot that would be the way to wrap it up. That's what you do to break bread hug it out What you got me with that one you got me without I mean, but it's I'm not gonna lie so I because I love both these guys. This is my era of rap. So I love these guys man him j cool Drake Kendrick but Joe It is pointing out the so personal the things they're saying because you know he's calling them a pen of file in the song literally Kendrick calling Drake a pedophile and all this stuff and you have a illegitimate daughter Brian has such a good joke As he said you have illegitimate daughter your pedophile you grew women and then Drake's come back was I don't have an 11 -year -old daughter and Brian's and hey bro address the other shit Nobody use a fuck about the what he caught your pedophile man.

1:30:02Yeah, a dad is not a bad thing to be buddy. That's okay When you hear the rest of the song, I mean, but it's that point where it's like well, okay, what is this man? This is Crazy this is crazy two -pock just did it once hey man. I fucked your wife. Yeah, all right That's it. Yeah, that was it and then there was Nas and Jay Z the ether yep Jay Z said this shit Nas ether them. Yeah Jay Z said I I'm done and then they made up right make their friends out their friends now. Yeah, so that could happen It can happen, but I've never seen that like this the back of fourth to this extreme is like man kind of sucks There was the early days of ice ice cube and easy eat That was great.

1:30:43Yeah, that was real beef. That was probably first beef and then there was Tim dog and NWA Fuck Compton you don't know about fuck Compton this before your time Tim dog was good and Tim dog was a he was good But Tim dog was a guy who unfortunately kind of His identity became the man who went after NWA when everyone was scared of NWA And everybody was scared of Compton. Yeah, he was a crazy New York dude Interesting you never heard of Tim dog. I've never heard of Tim dog show me some Tim dog because I love fucking I mean, I love rap so much and I love Tim dog did the scariest thing he went after NWA We're in the prime of NWA row days.

1:31:25Oh, yeah, and when everyone was scared of them. It was just all guns and ruthless records Raiders had Yeah, that's Tim dog I had so New York the fucking change like that go back to it. Was the name of the album? It's something on wax click on that. That's the album. I just picked it because it was a good picture of him Penisillin on wax. That's the name of his CD. It's good man. It's good like he was a really good rapper But the thing was like that if that's how you break out Then your identity gets connected to beefing with these very famous rappers where I think like if he just went like The cool G rap way just did his own shit.

1:32:10There's people would just love him for his own shit But he went after NWA That's all you know for your trouble. I mean, yeah, Nas ether Jay Z We all were there for that happen and Jay Z is still Jay Z bro. Yeah, Jay Z is still Jay Z But not that's fucking man his leader. I was listening to rewind the other day While we're playing pool. I was like god damn that song is genius. Man genius. Joe Literally, I got to do the garden with Shulti this past weekend and I took the subway to the show because I wanted to feel it I wanted to be in New York put on ill -matic. Oh, yeah, oh New York state of mind Joe.

1:32:44Oh my god. I was ready to go. Oh my god On the subway listen there. That beat. Oh my god Oh And what year is that well year we talk about two ninety three I could be wrong ninety two ninety three He's the best lyricist in my opinion. Yeah, he's number one. He's yeah man Kendrick Lamar is two but man Nas is you got our you know Not just like that. No man for me from my money like first of all I'm old. So I like that 90s rap Yeah, but it's also like for me Nas was one of the first guys that I listened to him was like oh Oh You know like oh these fucking lyrics are so tight man. I love lyrics man I love someone is like really fucking good and like piecing together a story and that's why rewind is so good Yes, not only is it a great story.

1:33:36He does it backwards. It's crazy fucking crazy Joe that is basically like pulling out your 14 -inch dick Just laying on the dinner table like what's up every other rapper? But he shut the fuck up. Yeah, that's made of song backwards and it's a perfect story murderous Yeah, it makes sense. It's it's genius and you make sure you want to listen to it again because you're like Bro and even his new shit he put out an album like like two years ago. Yeah, it's bangin man. It's bangin Oh my god. Just old school 90s hip -hop still not lost any of the pace, you know No, yeah, he did him with one of the new best producers.

1:34:12Oh my god. I can't think of his neck fucking Some of my name, but thank God he made the beef like niggas and Paris and stuff But he's like I like that. He's still in the game. Yeah, bro when you hear hip -hop is dead if you're anywhere Come on No, no, no, he's got some bangers over the years man. He's some real bangers man. Yeah, now you you do I do notice hanging out you do like lyrics you're a lyric like whether it be rap or anything Like it's what the person's kind of talking about Usually they get you going. I just love clever lyrics later. I love a clever joke, you know, it's the same kind of shit like we always listen to Cool G rap and brand new heavies that death threat.

1:34:56Oh, yeah, that's what don't Don't know when that song starts popping like oh Ha ha ha Let's go My favorite one you play is not even a rap but you got me in the country, but that people say I got a drink and That's a great song Oh, my favorite greener memories show yet you had a plan and Shane's got a bloodline is sitting there and he's like Joe The song is making me sad I look over you and you're like people say like you just kept dancing and Shane's Well, I think about that shit right just like we laugh well our green room playlist is so interesting because there's so many different kinds of music in it And it's like it's all random so it's on random eyes.

1:35:37So it'll just one Janice joblin out of nowhere You know, you don't even know you wanted to hear that but you hear that beginning of take a little piece of my heart Like oh shit baby sing what that what that one that sing baby hot white cum lady. Oh my god That's a crazy fair. Yeah, I love her. Yeah That's on hot white cum is crazy That song is crazy because she was a huge artist when she made that song whatever fast was so nuts 2000 -ish early 2000s 2003 yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember seeing here and that's on like Jesus That lady away from me She's too wild that's a wild lady That famous singing that song she's cool as fuck to I had her on the podcast really cool as fuck very cool.

1:36:29We've got to hide together. It's fun Sing how we're getting getting how it looks for you, but she's just cool. Just fun fun person fun person to talk to You know most Artists like they got something inside of them, you know, there's something going on in there Yeah, you know, it's fun. Hey, we're like jelly roll. He's fun. Hey with fun. Yeah Gary Clark. Yeah, he's so good. He's so fun. I'm with he's just the coolest He's just uh He's a like he's a real artist like Gary locks himself in his studio for like 18 hours Drives his wife crazy drives every crazy. He's just sitting there smoking. We drink a whiskey and just playing music Yeah, I mean, he just he he goes for it sometimes I'll text him.

1:37:12He's like I'm in the middle of everything man I like to Out that's hot. Well, I I like to do it like that man. Just lock in completely They do think so much different than us because they can create create in a vacuum You know, you can create a song in a vacuum you can be by yourself and you create a banger of a song We can't really do that. No, you need it because in your head you can hear the joke sometimes you're like I'm pretty sure This will go, but you're not it's yeah, you need the audience you need to know it's like you need a translator Like you need like you kind of get it, but you need to like You need to like how am I saying this right?

1:37:48Like you need to like have someone translate the words to the crowd that speaks a different language You gotta like it's home You know with music I envy that that they could practice on their own, you know They could just sit alone, but even then I think like performing live is a different animal Yeah, like if you're read a Malcolm Gladwell's book the outlaw Now like you know, I bought it. I haven't ready it but I do have it It's good to read it's good to listen to too. I've listened to the audiobook the audiobook is amazing because Malcolm reads it and He talks about the Beatles when they were in Germany So the Beatles went away they left Liverpool they go to Germany and Hamburg and they're doing shows like every night Every night they're doing like six seven nights a week.

1:38:29They're doing shows like hours and hours now They come back two years later and everybody's like what the fuck happened Like how are you guys so good like what the fuck happened is because these guys were tight As a drum just constantly constantly doing shows just constantly working on it. I've heard Kobe say that in one of the about how like if if you work out every day at like you know 9 a .m. And then you work out again at 4 p .m. That's you know That's like a regular NBA player, but what I'm doing is I'm waking up at 3 a .m And then I'm working out then and then I'm gonna work out again at 6 a .m And then I'm gonna work out again at 9 a .m So by the time you got your first workout I got in 3 And he said and after I do that for years I'm the best player basketball Yeah, it's like and he was right He was right.

1:39:14It literally just work. That's all it was. He wasn't like oh night There's guys who was better than me completely born and born better all that but I outworked them Wow, I think that's the case with everything. I think that's the case with music I think that's the case with sports up until the point where you're being detrimental to your body with sports Because I think you definitely can overuse You could work out too hard where your body is just too broken down and then you start getting injured That's that's real possible because at a certain point in time You're putting in too much work for your biology to heal the sessions You know for fighting.

1:39:51That must be the hardest. Oh, yeah, that Those are what's too much. That's the toughest thing in all of athletics in my opinion is like world championship fighting Because just getting to this Getting into the octagon without an injury good luck everybody's hurt because you fight you got to fight to get ready That's the crazy part. Yeah, you got to fight and guys get staff infections tweak knees fucked up backs and rib injuries And and they fight with those things. Yeah Yeah, they fight they fight off fucked up Now you always hear that like after a guy wins will be like and I won with like Priera One with a broken in a broken toe.

1:40:28Yeah, the fuck the fuck Got kicked them in nuts Crazy crazy. Yeah, those guys are always hurt. How about Ben Wassand and he had fucking staff infection on his head When he fought Dustin Porje and he couldn't he knew he had like one good round in him So just went after Dustin the first round try to take him out and he got knocked out in the second round And then afterwards you say and like the the staff infection just drained him. There was nothing left That's what happens is that the more it does to kept trying to do the guilty? Yeah, that was the best I found big kill Tony is five years after I after winning a fight is thinking about will you fucking my government?

1:41:12No, it's crazy kill Tony has emerged man. It's emerged when Tony was in the cover of variety magazine. I was like whoa That's undeniable That's undeniable. I do wonder cuz it's like man What it's only gonna get bigger because I don't think that show is that I like oh, it's I think that show is like This might be the beginning of what this show might be. Oh, it's not it's not nearly where it's going to be Yeah, it's gonna be even bigger. It's gonna continue to grow I thought Tony's like bro you're gonna have some open mic are doing their first set and that got him football stadium in Texas Yeah, yeah legitimately.

1:41:44Yeah easily it could be that and also he when they do the live show You know they they put on a production. I mean, there's a lot going on, you know They had jelly roll singing Jelly roll is a crazy comedy fan. He was a mother shit this weekend There to hang out with Steve burn when we were in Nashville He pulled up just came to the show we were at the Grand Ole Opry and he came out and sang some songs with it was like They were singing Garth Brooks with jelly roll with the Grand Ole Opry Tony told me that he took him out to clubs afterwards and That they were playing and Tony would play the drums and jelly roll was singing Yeah And that's a thing simple man With Tony on drums.

1:42:25Yeah, can you imagine you just at some bar in Nashville just hanging out and jelly roll rolls up And he goes on stage and sings a Leonard Skinner song with Tony Hinch cliff playing the drums Sounds like a fucking madly that even sound real doesn't sound real the Tony came into the he's like what kind of life are we living He was how is this real man job? He's thinking that shit all the time. I do too. I can't Yeah, I think it all the time. Doesn't make any sense It just this week Joey win it by it went with Mad Square Garden Mad Square Garden here. Yeah to do this pot It was this three days have been like what the fuck yeah, what the fuck what the fuck?

1:43:04What the fuck just from an open mic just from decided to an open mic one night 12 years ago And it's gonna sing on the path how many years it's been now? 12 just be 12 Staying on the path. It's just staying on the path That's the thing. Just stay on the path Stay on the path. Yeah, but just like would Kobe Bryant was saying same thing work Yeah, just get in that work stay on the path and the difference between the guys who work and the guys just kind of half -ass it like we've seen guys come through that They have one foot in and one foot out. You can see it. Yeah, he said you see it when they bomb too Who you see it when they bomb is like oh, you're not doing this you're not getting up You're not really getting up and you're not really putting yourself around the best communities you could put yourself around You can see it.

1:43:41You're not either there are your openers or whatever it is, but you're not around it Yeah, and you're all in your head You're not free. Yeah Those guys that are free like a tell a tells free he's free when he's up there. He's free He's not shane shane's free. Yeah, that's uh, that's like a place that you can get to everybody can get there If you're good if you can get laughs, you can get there. You just need to keep keep working on it Yeah, but that's the thing is like it really is it's it's it's a skill that can be developed It's not as simple as you're you're the talented or you're not It's like yeah, you have to have something like there's some some people that just they can't make anybody laugh ever They're just not funny.

1:44:19They're just not fun. It's I've seen these people and usually they're mentally ill Usually the people that aren't funny, but they try really hard to be funny They're usually like really mentally ill and some of them somehow or another develop careers Like they have like a Monika of a career But if you like go to their Instagram It's all weird like signaling. It's all pretending. You're something you're not it's like this weird thing where they're just trying to like Find something that sticks. Yeah, like a formless jellyfish trying to pretend that it's uh, that's a tree It's something about them.

1:44:59That's like weird and but if they can ask if they look the right way and they say the right things They can kind of eek out some bizarre existence Where they can pretend that they're a comedian and it can last for the year some of them stick around They host shows and do things that's like what are you doing? That is the one thing I did love about sports is that you can't pretend fight Right, you can't pretend hit a baseball joke right you either guy you got to hit the baseball right But you do have fighters that are professional fighters that are not good Yeah, like in boxing there's guys that they will call because they know this guy's a dumbass and they'll fight Mike Tyson I mean, that's what how they built Mike Tyson's career.

1:45:42They took a bunch of guys are kind of like You know not they're not Kobe Bryant mentality, you know, they're kind of like just sort of professionally boxing and losing a bunch And maybe they have losing records like a lot of them have like they'll lost more than they want But they're a professional boxer and they're willing to fight this 19 year old kid from Brownsville It's gonna take your fucking head off And so that's how they kid it from hell from hell look at bore from hell So that that's how they develop like careers and so with stand -up you get those guys too Because some comics they like weak comics going on in front of them So they'll take this person who's like barely Should be a comedian they really barely should be doing stand -up and they'll have them open in front of crowd and torture this audience So they can come on stage 20 minutes later and look like a hero hero This looks totally unchallenged so smooth and polished and so confident Yeah, that's shit You have that weirdness in in anything even in fighting you have that weirdness where someone's kind of they're doing it But they're kind of like half doing it and they can still have a career though So kind of sort of you know, but same thing they're not making any real money.

1:46:54Yeah You know, you just kind of like getting by or even just a lasting impression just like yeah, I like You know because there are some comics you can tell they you can tell that They operate outside of the world of like peers They operate kind of on their own like and they don't Really want that you know, I like my the idea of my peers thinking I'm funny And being in this group that we have and like everyone making each other better But you can tell some kind of like don't want to operate in that world I think they get isolated and usually they get isolated by success And especially if they're old school guys because the old school guys people did root for your downfall And if they didn't come up with us in the store Which is I think the first time where that sort of attitude of camaraderie like really got polished and developed yeah, whereas it existed in small pockets where they had friends But there's so many stories of one friend getting something and the other friend turning on them Because they were jealous there's so many with guys that we know Super fake.

1:47:52They've done podcasts about it. Yeah So there was always that you know, but I think When some guys make it and then they start doing touring and clubs and then doing theaters They just bring their opening act everywhere So they have an opening act that they work with they bring that person everywhere and they rarely do sets in town And then they become isolated and then you become like an island I refer to these people as islands It's great. You know exactly what I'm talking about. Yeah, islands. They're islands And so they're not connected to the mainland and so it's a sadness to that existence.

1:48:23Yes, it's weird It's not good and you can tell they act like or you can see it on them They'd like to pretend like they don't care But it's like I think you do I think we lay your head down a night you want Friends but I like that we work out together. I like it like we are all friends outside of this as well I like that feeling. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's everything. It's it's a big part of it the clubhouse Clubhouse. It's a big part of why it's so entertaining and why it's so fun to like you we we're laughing as much In the room as we are watching people on stage. It's like in that room. It's like there's and everybody's free It's like everybody knows everybody loves them.

1:48:59Yeah free Whenever we're walks in everybody hugs each other ask my friend. You're a Ronald come in and then you know Tony comes in We're all like oh, everybody starts talking shit. Yeah, man, bro. We're very very very very lucky very lucky The luckiest though, but we also did the thing we actually took the chance and we came out here You know fucking 40 minutes. That's what I feel like I think the universe wanted it to happen I know that sounds corny. I know that sounds ridiculous. I know that sounds like new AG But it just don't I don't know how everything else could have lined up so perfectly like if you had If you had a calculation to what are the odds of a new comedy scene emerging in the middle of the country And emerging in a way that all the young people are moving here all the young people that want to have a career And then have it connected to something like kill Tony Which is the very best platform ever for someone to develop a career if you if you have a good few minutes You can go on kill Tony you could become a real look at cam batterson look at cam batterson Killin it every week new minute killing it killin monster But killing it when Tucker Carlson was on just killing it just killing it all the time You can develop a career look you're William Montgomery killing it I'm in the road Casey rocket all these guys you can you could really develop a career and the way this the club is set up I'm gonna call it the store the way the mother ship is set up It's like you have a real path like guys will take you on the road.

1:50:28Yep They'll you do get spots if you're a door person you get people watch you Yeah, if you're coming up people will watch you and you can't think you deserve more than you get either Like everybody gets what they deserve. It's just it's a long -ass fucking brutal process. Yes, but you have a possibility There's a path. There's a real path the light. It's lit. You know, you can Not everybody finishes that a hundred mile race, but you can get on that path Not everybody finishes that. Oh, it's brutal man, especially in that stage The stage where you got like five good minutes This is where you're banking your life on look.

1:51:02Oh my god I gotta go to school. I wish sometimes I've got a healthcare plan I could have had Alexis fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck. Yeah, fuck. If I could back I wish we could sometimes game along comedy I would if I had stock man, I'd put in a camp address. Oh, yeah, right song. I was like oh, that's one of them things He's one of them things that is very rare I think yeah, you know where it's 100 where it's this is not That's a hundred percent by 100 percent. That's a hundred percent Yeah, there's uh there's guys where you like man I don't know like William in the beginning like I don't know if you're gonna work out because it's so crazy Like what it's gonna work out now it's like a hundred percent Well, yeah, if you were early adopter of William Montgomery stock you'd be like wow, I fucking called that bitch Yeah, Tony's yeah rich man That's a hard one to call but K.

1:51:53Paterson is one of those few me where I I mean I wasn't around for Eddie Murphy, but that's how I look at him like me. You really are special man You are special, dude. Well, he's just so friendly in real life and so silly, you know and fun and yeah, yeah Authentically him and he could do that on stage And that that exercise of doing a new minute every week is crazy That's crazy. Could you imagine doing it five years in joke so hard to do man so hard to do Kim Congdon and Sarah Sarah Wanchank. They were like the first to do. Yep Kim's killing out. They're both killing. I mean, yeah And they're out here all the time too That's that's the the coolest thing is to see how many people decided to cut join us, you know But if you had to put odds on that what are the odds the odds are like Fucking million to one like what are the what are the possibilities that all those things are gonna happen in that order?

1:52:45You know Spotify pandemic Uh, George Floyd come out here Everyone's cool do indoor shows everything's locked down everywhere else Everyone's out of job all the employees of the comic store are all fired. No one has jobs. No, there's no club You can hire people bring them out here and everybody starts coming like what are you guys doing? What are y 'all up to? The fuck are y 'all up to over here? Oh Come join Not a real code, but it does feel like man, it's our it's our like family. It's our it's a the people who came early it does feel that way And it could help shape the way comedy is done in the whole country because it's done for the comedians Like it's a club that's set up for the comedians and it recognizes that the comedians the reason why people are there They're not just there to buy drinks they're not just there cuz the club is cool.

1:53:38They're there for the talent So give the talent money First thing I did oh, bro. I've never had money Joe, but the first thing I did brother I took all the door guys to get sushi. We balled the fuck I never asked the most money I've ever spent on anything Joe And I'm talking I spent the whole check I got Oh sushi for the boys Never oh, I felt great. I went he was there with your wife was there too literally Whitney your wife or there We show Whitney's like what are y 'all doing here? We're about to get some fucking sushi. She was like Joe Rogan's fucking paying y 'all Yeah I'm making That's my favorite thing, though, bro.

1:54:16It's being able to have money and just go out with the door guys and be able to pay for dinner Like they don't have to pay for dinner. I could pay for dinner. No, that's nice. It's nice. Woo Yeah, it's nice that you feel that way too. That's what's important that you want to do that That's just important and it makes everybody feel what people do for me you yeah it shows So it's like man the idea of how nice and I know what it's like to just be like man, bro It's either not eat tonight or eat like a McDonald's thing or Derek's taking us to get a steak Yeah, yeah, when we first started doing that I remember are it was like super poor I've taken on the road and be like we're gonna order.

1:54:52I'm like order whatever the fuck you want man Let's go. Let's have some steaks Let's have fun. Yeah, it's like It's did anyone ever do it for you Joe did you just start doing it? No, I just started doing that nobody I didn't nobody took me on the road Really? Yeah, I mean I had a couple guys that I opened for in the early days like Lenny Clark was the big one Because Lenny Clark are open for Lenny. I've been doing comedy for one year and Mark Clark just started he tried me out at this one place It was called Jays in Pittsfield, Massachusetts and Lenny was just coming off of the HBO young comedian special with Rodney Wouldn't like say I'm kittison Yeah, so Lenny was and Lenny was a legend in Boston.

1:55:34So and Lenny was like kid you're funny He goes I fucking love did he was like Talking to me about different bits. It was real fun And so this is me that was like a giant boost that I got from Lenny Clark. I was like holy shit This is incredible and then I became friends with Lenny and so I would you know I did quite a few shows with Lenny in Boston in and around Boston, but nobody ever took me on the road Wow, no, I came out here to LA Came out there to LA and I started doing the store and I was mostly just doing the store and then Dice told me I should do the road Yeah, Andrew dice Clay dice told me in the back of the comedy store dice is always cool to me And he he was always one of those ones where I just couldn't believe I was talking to dice I was like this is just so weird Because I was listening to his cassette in my car when I was 19 years old I remember this girl's date and we were howling lab.

1:56:28We're sitting in front of my house I'll never forget I can picture the scene We're sitting in front of my house in the car and we're both like Oh, just crying laughing and then all sudden I'm in the parking lot of the comedy store and dice is giving me advice It's like you should do the road. I'm like really? It's like yeah It goes you don't need these fucking jerk offs to tell you where your money comes from Do the road he goes you have a real career you'll always have that He goes you you can make a lot of money out there. I was like catch you do the road So I had just been doing the store like I done I had done the road when I lived in New York You know, cuz like that's how you made a living I would go places and you know I'd go to Connecticut and Jersey I do road gigs do weekends places That's how I was making money But then when I came to LA I was basically just doing the comedy store and the lab factory and working on sitcom news radio.

1:57:22Yeah, and then dice was like you should do the road And I was like I should do the road and then I started going on the road. So I was headlined So wow that didn't so I just took guys from the store So I realized early on like this is like when I really had a really hard time following Joey But I realized that Joey was so funny that if I knew that I could follow him I was like this will like really pick up my comedy because he's so hard to follow it was so scary I can't imagine but I was like this is the only way to do it because I knew the Joey didn't want to headline Joey was crazy back then Joey was so wild That I started hiring Ari to come with us as well in case Joey didn't show up So if Joey showed up it was a three -man show and if Joey didn't show up it was a two -man show Because Ari could go up and he won't be I was like I don't want to not have Joey But Joey was so crazy back then, but I didn't want to put pressure on him either So it was like let's just come if you come you don't I fucking eat your plane ticket or whatever And so Ari doesn't know if he's featuring or else then please he he's assuming that we always did a tag team anyway So he's assuming he's always gonna go on first, which is correct.

1:58:33Yes, assuming he's gonna bring up Joey But he might not be bringing up Joey But it was fine. Yeah, it was fine But I started taking them on the road because I was like it's way more fun when you bring people It's way more I figured that out early on like you want to travel with your friends Like you don't want to just it was lonely You just try travel to Pittsburgh and you're like hanging out with the people that work there like okay Guess I'm gonna go to my hotel and go to sleep and go jerk off and go to sleep Fuck kind of life is this this is weird and they just look forward to the show the next day and you're alone in the gym Fucking lifting weights feeling weird as opposed to if I bring those guys we were just laughing everywhere So it was just laughs we just go have a good time go eat together hang out at the park together Fucking do whatever go to the pool.

1:59:19I'm always here. Come explain it to you. I'm not I mean one definitely hope to be headline as soon but you hear comments me like oh man You know you want to bring somebody but it just costs a little too much money or cost money It's like to me. That's what you're paying for it, right? 100 % I'm paying so I can have a good comfortable time I think to this day my photo of Joey when I call him is Joey at the pool in Austin Yeah, that photo right there That's Joey with Ari in the background. Oh, shit. We're hanging out at the pool when we're on the road together That's fucking you know what I call him.

1:59:56I'll call him right now. So fuck yeah, everybody can see it Oh, it doesn't show the image. Why doesn't show the image. It's an old -ass image Hmm Sometimes when you call people it shows you the full picture. Yeah, I'll come in doesn't do that. I don't know either way That's the picture That was us people made shirts. I think we were in Austin Pretty sure we were in Austin Look at Ari look at that. Well, that was young Ari. Yeah, that was Ari when he was a door guy Wow, yeah, when he just lost his religion just a few years earlier Ari was like radical, you know like What what sect of would you call him fundamentalist Judaism?

2:00:37What what was it? What would you call it?

2:00:42Orthodox he was all in. Oh, Ari was all in. Nobody's 19 or 20s like those bullshit Things 21 those bullshit You met him coming off religious conservative Jewish and then his parents adopted or Orthodox Jewish beliefs this according to the Wikipedia Okay, so that's when he moved to Israel Yeah, yeah, and he's like reading the Talmud 12 hours a day like he was all in And then became this chaotic amazing crazy So hilarious crazy. Yeah, and I met him when he was at the store just working in the door And then you know watch him do a few sets and said you want to come on the road Take him on the road.

2:01:19We did a bunch of sets together. How did great fucking time? Door guy. Yeah, door guys Yeah, and it's also just like You know given lighting the path letting letting people know that this is a real path here You can you go from doing open mic nights to putting together sets you do guest spots And then you do a little bit of sets in town and then someone comes along and says hey you want to try Opening up on the road you do 15 minutes. Can you do 15? You know and some guys I asked them. Can you do 15 minutes? And they really can't because they have really they have three five -minute sets of the same jokes Mmm, but you don't know because you're only doing five minutes sets at a time exactly So they don't know that the problem is if you cover that same subject three different times You can't you can't piece that together and make 15 minutes You're just covering the subject in one way where you really should be doing is Condensing that shit cutting it up and and attaching them all together and don't try to make it like Three five minutes.

2:02:15You're just lazy. Yeah, it should be one chunk exactly Exactly, and that's that's what makes you Brian Simpson That is what makes you a great topic. That's what you can make it. It's a joy. It's not 15 minutes anymore. It's four minutes You know, it's one chunk and it's bang bang bang bang burrs Yeah, so there's you know, there's a few guys you take them in the road. They just they didn't But if whatever it is they didn't have the extra horsepower to make it up the hill It's like listen man. You got to get up that hill. Yeah, no one's gonna help you. I can't hold your hand You got to get up that hill in your own see only way to do this Damn some people don't make it up the hill bro Yeah, even though you love them you love them.

2:02:51They don't make it up the hill You love them you think they're great guys. They want you to still take them on the road and like hey man You got to get up the hill you got to make it up the hill. I think you have you bombing everywhere You know after people ask you try to go up on the road and friends and like I you try you have some people it's just but and then they It's just when they bomb it's awful. It's awful. Yeah Yeah Especially when the crowds so like a sunchess murder Brian just murdered you know, you know, it's like oh no Yeah, you got to make it up the hill But you can and just because you have a bad set that night It doesn't mean everybody's writing you off, but if you don't adjust if you don't course correct You're gonna continue to have bad sets you know you got to figure out what is what am I doing wrong?

2:03:35Like what is different about what I'm doing than these people that are doing it really good Ha ha ha that's the best part of watching it But the thing is comedy is a weird art form in that there's no real Place where you can learn it other than doing it. Yeah, you could learn how to play guitar You know, I mean some of the great guitar players they're self -taught But you could you could learn you could go to a place they can teach you how to play guitar You know they can teach you online you can there's those tons of tutorials on how to learn how to play guitar They're free you can get them on YouTube learn how to play guitar You're not gonna learn how to do comedy you can't Yeah, you gotta do it.

2:04:15It's so personal. That's what makes it so beautiful. It's so personal And there's a lot of really funny people and aren't funny on stage That's weird. How does that it's weird? It doesn't make sense sometimes right? It's weird It's weird when you see them bomb on stage and they see them in real life in their funny like what is going on And then they go it almost like the great like you'll see them in the green room and they'll be this the comedian And then they go on stage and they like But let me give me to come a no a comedic like what I think a comedian is so aware It's so aware that they're performing so aware Not locked into the thought at all, but instead hoping for a good result with every word that comes out of their mouth Yeah, hoping for a good result.

2:04:57Yeah, is that feeling in the air of desperation? You know You get the crowd can taste you ever see a desperate dude trying to hit out a girl It's the saddest shit of all time It's like he smells like shit, but she's just trying to get away with him get away from him You know because desperation stinks it does it stinks on girls too. It stinks on everybody it stinks on comedians stinks Desperation stinks We don't like it. It's uncomfortable. I don't want to feel that way So if you're I want you to be having fun, you know when I see someone like with shouts at the roast he's having fun Yeah, I want to be watching the person who's having fun.

2:05:31I don't want to be watching in someone who's like even if your comedy is really well written It's gonna suck if you're desperate. Yes. Yeah, yeah, watch someone have fun. God watch that fucking guy shouts Yeah, he has a good ass time man, and he's enjoying all the success You know, he's enjoying every step of the way That's very important too because you know a lot of people get upset That people promote things and show them on stage killing it, but you got to understand like that That is That's you let's on that's on you. That's like you he's celebrating success This is like this is gratitude in a physical form if that bothers you that's you Which one is doing it?

2:06:14That's your problem. This is him with the guy We were there. Oh look at the point Joe watching this guy watching this guy I swear to God Joe and I've told him this a hundred times I'll be watching them. I'll think I'll get off stage my second show with the garden I thought I had one of the best sets of my head in my life Joe in my life I watched his first 10 minutes just riffing about New York and I'll be like I don't even I don't even do the same thing I'm not even doing the same thing. He's killing so hard and he brought 50 Cent out too at the end He brought him out did 50 sing oh he did Joe I got the we got the rap we wrapped hit her to love it together.

2:06:46Oh my god You know my body that's amazing. That's amazing, but I like that he he lives like this I like that he's like bigger better let's let's let's everybody let's be bigger better bigger We can all be bigger and better and I like that That's why I gravitate towards him. I feel like because he makes me want to be bigger and better and do better I felt like that the moment I met him Moment I met him was I'd seen him do some stuff on online I guess it was probably YouTube or Instagram or I forget what it was and then I Came to the store and I heard he was doing a show. So I came to stop by to watch him.

2:07:19I remember this night. Yeah I remember this night. I met him in the back. Yep Made him he went up. He fucking killed and he did the pot. I remember. Yeah, it was fun. I didn't even know him yet Yeah, just being a flower and a wall watching these moments. You know guys out there man There's good guys out there and there's a lot of people that would be good guys if you're in the right group of people And they don't feel like they can be good guys because they're all like shielded and protected And some guys are good guys when things go great for them when things aren't going great than they're cuts and all of a sudden And that's because they weren't good guys.

2:07:50So that's who they really were. Yeah. Well, they're just narcissists And they feel it's the same that old school thing where they only want them to be successful And they only celebrate people that are way less successful than them if they do celebrate people Yeah, it's always someone is like kind of okay, and then they pretend they're really amazing That shit so oh my god And then they'll tell people like a son or somebody that they can't over for you know, they'll give him excuses a while Like oh, I just you know where this or that and he just murdered that's why yeah Well, when you kick a guy off the tour because he's killing too hard.

2:08:22That's when it's a real problem. I've seen that happen It happened to your boy Yeah, we know the names come on. Yeah, but you know that's on them. They have to they have to live with that. That's not good That's you know take your medicine. Yeah, also don't you want the show to be good? That's what I be thinking about like don't you want The people in the show to also leave going. I love the whole show. Not just the main guy I love the whole thing, but I think we were people could take out of this that don't give a fuck about comedy or stand up Is that that my the mentality of like doing it the right way you could apply that to everything in your life To everything you apply that to whatever you do for living apply that to your friendships apply that to everything You'll have a better life.

2:09:02It's a better way to live Fuck it right and you can do it everybody could do it. It's not hard to do. It's hard to do But it's not it's not like it's not like it's impossible It just requires a readjustment of the way you think about things Yeah, man loving is so much more fun. Oh, it's just loving is so much more fun. Hey, look at the dog bro They have it a good time. Just love. Yeah, just stop trying to be the man Even if you are the man don't don't think about it. Just just keep going Just have fun. Just have a good time Even where you are. Yeah, don't think about it. Yeah, never dwell I'm dwell on that shit think think about what's important.

2:09:39What's important is friendship fun This thing that you're trying to get better at, you know community. I love The community we have yeah, and the the we're all we all have very different versions of the same idea Like we're trying to develop great bits and trying to have a great set We're all trying to do a different version of that same idea So we're all just all of us are working on shit. We all have good advice for each other like you know Every now and then Tony will like hit you with a tagline You know someone will come up with Brian and I'll say hey, you know you do it like this But I feel like one time I heard you did a different.

2:10:15Yes, oh, yeah, that's right, you know Having guys like that is watch your shit and talk to you about it Well, you said that to me just like try to open it with this just move just sometimes just moving something you know, huh? Yeah, Joey did say that to me also on the phone yesterday He was talking about this guy who went up and he he said something kind of fucked up like right away He goes he goes you can't just do that to him because they got to get him to fall in love with you first Don't just fucking dive into this stupid shit get him the phone love with you first. He was then you can get away with it later You went everything.

2:10:46Yeah, yeah, and it's also like you you know them now They know you know each other. We like each other now. I could be free now. I can get loose and you know Like Tony smile. Yeah, have a good time smile Happy Tony's best time when the Tony's happy is the hardest murder. It's great. Yeah mean Tony is like Like settle down Tony. Can you go to the gym? Okay, don't be so mean But it's you know, that's like the that intensity of is also like that could be harnessed like you You could be you have the same intensity, but you don't focus it in like this angry mean way You know, yeah, just Focus it. What's the best way?

2:11:25What's the best way to use this energy? Don't just give in to the gluttony You know, yeah the gluttony of anger Meanness or whatever the fuck it is. It just Have fun. It comes up in a solo. God comes up quick where you just feel something Got what did you say that day we were working out and we were about to talk shit and then Marshall came up and Marshall's like And he was like look at Marshall. She's like no daddy. Stop fucking shit You're like I know Marshall, but I can't help it. I know yeah, we were talking shit, but we were right That's crazy Now after we were talking that shit that it was confirmed I knew it.

2:12:04I knew it, but that's that's again. That's that old school Stupid way of thinking that my dog does not participate in Marshall's like Everybody is funny man hanging out. We're doing kettlebell swings. I know she's just running in between legs Miss gender my dog There's the problem. It's a good time for you. Oh, bro. The world is changing my favorite It's for your boy. I feel like I'm a part of it. How did you develop a like of trans porn? Honestly, honestly just scrolling through porn one one regular day just like any other guy Nothing's wrong with you. Nothing wrong. I didn't get struck by lightning.

2:12:49Nope. Just scrolling through. I saw a woman with a fucking hog Yeah, and was like And She was beautiful. She was actually beautiful. Did you get confused? No, I was finally not confused I was a me oh you liked it told my wife. I said, yo, what the fuck is this? What she said? It's wrong with you Fuck is wrong with you man. The fuck is wrong with you and I was like, I liked it because That's also what I don't like is the guys who don't want to brag like they don't watch it 20 million views every video it ain't just me being right. It ain't just your boy It's a lot you know what I saw that was real disturbing Someone posted this video this is totally unrelated so no one thinks I'm connection these two but someone posted this thing on Instagram of a video of showing children Dancing around like the people posting their children dancing around and then they went and saw like who is liking this video And who is who's following this video who's following this person and then they went to those accounts And they went to some of those accounts and some of those accounts are for straight -up pedophiles Yeah straight -up pedophiles who are like Watching your kid dance around and they're watching your kid and they're they're they're fucking legit sex offenders and they're online Yeah, that's fucking why you shouldn't have your kids online.

2:14:13Yeah, and some of them have a Different language so you like use a translator and you can translate it and see what they're saying. Yeah Yeah, they're real man. It's like this like don't put your kids online kids. No, don't do that. There's transport on there Don't you can't you can't you can't see that young yeah you can't Kids today are just being inundated with images and things that we never saw when we were kids Well, I'm obviously a lot older than you, but even you never saw no This is what was the first time you saw someone get murdered on Instagram great question. I would say 20s probably like mid 20s where you're like whoa I just see somebody like a video of just somebody like fall or somebody getting hit by something or you're like What the fuck is where you're like that person's dead.

2:15:06Yeah, so I'd say yeah around mid when I was like 28 mid late 20s when you started seeing people just die scrolling through your phone dude I see it all the time almost every day. I see people die Almost every day. Yeah, I was on Twitter Yesterday and I saw this video of this dude this lady was complaining that this dude was too loud She was trying to go to sleep so the guy beat her to death in the hallway. He hit he I don't know what he had in his hands It's like a kind of a blurry security camera But he he keeps hitting her with this thing and then she pleads for him and then he hits her in the head And she goes unconscious and then he gets on top of her It's just beating her to death Bro, and then they had him according to this post they had him in jail They had him in trial and he said she said she wanted to go to sleep But now now she sleeps real good Like after he beat her to death.

2:15:58I don't know if he actually said that if something's right Yeah, the fucking movie was the video of him doing it though It's the most disturbing shit you'll ever see it's like this lady. It's like overweight lady who can't defend herself at all And she's got her hands up. She's getting beaten. I can't watch that shit I like I scroll by it. I can't watch it's impossible. It's horrible. It's horrible to watch and there's so many of them So many people get stabbed and shot ran over by cars like fuck man and people have posted casually That's what I don't to post it so casually is wow there was one street take over yesterday in Chicago And I guess it was a cop that had just gotten off duty and he was driving through and he tried to drive through the street Take over and they shot him multiple times So this cops it is car and he hit some people there's like, you know They're trying to block the road and shit they're trying and he's trying to get through and you know He thinks he's a cop so he's gonna be able to do this and he just Let me just unloads it But that shit makes me sick because like you'll hear like about like a rapper dying and then two seconds later to see the video and it's like Well, I don't think I'm supposed to live like like I don't think I'm supposed to live like that What happens if Kendrick Lamar and Drake run into each other in the wild?

2:17:16Drake would fucking destroy that little guy. Yeah, he's a tiny little dude But what if Kendrick is expecting that? So he comes prepared with I mean the nice thing I like about this era is everyone's way gay or Finger nails painted and everybody's gonna talk shit. They're not gonna Just yeah, this isn't I don't believe this is a two -pack biggie era. This is not I think that ended I think that's honestly when that ended a far as far as rappers still get killed But I think the idea of rappers killing each other. I feel like that was like oh man It's made me win a little too far. I feel like cats are killing each other They're confident that no one's gonna use the nuclear bomb today just because they just thought they were using the nuclear bombs It's 1945.

2:17:56Derek relax. We're not we're not we're not new to each other You say that you say that but it happened it happened in history, you know Tyranny has always taken place. There's tyranny right now in the world right this North Korea You go there's run by a dictator. Yeah, full on communism that that shit exists. It's real. It's today 2024 you wake up normal in America living in Texas. Yee haw land of the free Not there not there same timeline same time on earth it exists this a human natural human pattern and To think that the rappers can't shoot each other today is crazy. I know, but I don't want them to they're so fucking They're so not tough because like what I like about two -packing biggie They were fucking real man not to say that Drake and Kendrick didn't come up I'm sure Kendrick from Compton.

2:18:40He's probably seen some fucking shit But what he wraps about is that he's a literally a good kid from this mad city Drake wraps about how he's a sensitive guy We just want to fall in love, you know what I mean like you can't put those words back in a bottle You know you say some dark shit about people's families like why There you can't but why also it's like Do you want to engage in that for what reason yeah? What is the what's the end goal? Don't you like you know one of things people do like in a street fight People don't think where does this go they just think I want to punch this guy fuck this dude I'm a punches guy and you think you just punch that guy But now you've created a real problem because if that guy's still alive He's gonna remember that you punched him and he's gonna want to get it back And he's gonna figure out a way to do it, you know Maybe if he's the type of dude is getting involved in street fights It probably makes bad decisions and so you set off a chain of events that could lead to your death other people's deaths Prison time all kinds of crazy shit that can happen just cuz you couldn't keep your emotions controlled in one moment And you didn't think it out you think I'm just gonna fuck this guy up.

2:19:43No, it's not that simple like they're not nobody likes getting fucked up They're gonna come back tomorrow with some friends. They're gonna get a gun Someone's gonna do something yeah, these motherfuckers are talking about each other's kids on songs talking about each other's actual children So it can't be that they're thinking about where this goes because if you thought about where this goes Just it don't go to anywhere good it goes only one place You know what's funny? I said because right now everyone's like oh Kendrick's killing him and we were talking about this for sure So I was like yeah, I say Kendrick is up right now.

2:20:09He's probably winning this battle right now He's being right way meter the clever all that stuff But I don't think when he went to bed he felt good no No, no can't can't be while you won't got into this business There's no way and also for YouTube to be the two biggest rappers in the world and doing this It can't feel good because you know funny. I wanted it I'm one of the people that when it first happened I was like gas. Yeah, but two best are going at it This is what we want and now that it's happened. I'm like wow. I didn't want this at all and this is dark And it seems like this one how many songs are they released so far?

2:20:39They both I think they're both at like three or four I think about the three four four the Four each cheese. Let's Christ eight. That's so crazy Now imagine if they put that much creativity into positivity Imagine they just released new bangers all the time that they created based on world events, you know They have eight songs together. Yeah, they're about eight right now together If Nas was mounted Israel and Palestine going to war and just went at them the way he went at Jay Z How genius would that be Wouldn't it be I bet Nas could do that It's not the only thing that war looks stupid. Yeah, he's in it.

2:21:21Yeah, he eat her the war The whole thing mouth it out both sides all the stupid shit that is being said by both sides Both sides justifying the death of innocent. I mean, even Jay Z lived on that thing's living off. Yeah Yeah, like oh my god all the college protests kids are gonna rest bro. It's crazy They're not just that but they're like spray painting up schools and Camping out kids are camping out on that they're just looking for this cause that somehow or another is gonna elevate their status That's a part of it and also being outraged at what is happening in Palestine Which is legitimate, but it's also been a part of Anti -war protests forever and what scary is if you know what happened at Kent State no in Ohio Kent State was a cause that was having an anti -war protest and they sent in the National Guard and the National Guard wound up shooting people so they were shooting kids So it was Neil Young wrote a song about it.

2:22:22It became Like a cultural moment or realized how fucking insane things had gotten that the army or the National Guard was shooting shooting students for anti -war protests I mean they just fucking shot four kills in Kent State shooting the fuck yeah, they broke up They broke up this peaceful protest by students with guns and the army they sent the army in and They shot people It was crazy fucking crazy. What year was this this is 74 what year was this? 70 1970 sorry 70 they shot people killed kids Of course, there's a wounding nine others men and women Killed them. Oh a college with rifles with rifles like their armed combatants trying to kill women and children No, it's a fucking people.

2:23:18Baby. Yeah, exactly kids young people who didn't know any better being shot by young people who don't know any better Yeah, it's horrible man. It's fucking horrible Yeah, what's going on that image of that lady screaming? Yeah, that's so visceral, bro This this can happen here look at the blood pouring out of her that is so crazy or him I don't know that this can happen here today, man This is this is why conflict is not good in any way shape or form and anybody that encourages conflict is foolish Yes, man I mean my wife we live a next door to the Jewish fraternity on UT's campus and they have 24 hour armed guards outside now That's a new thing that we live by them for the last three years in the last since that happened at the on the UT campus That's what it's like over there now so you can tell it's like just at their friend not at the other ones So it's like what the fuck yeah, and so there are resting kids that are on campuses and then the kids become more emboldened And now there's more of them and more colleges are having this now where kids are setting up these camps You know they're launching these camps.

2:24:22They're all sleeping on the lawn on the lawns and the tents. I should yeah Yeah, and then if you stop it they say you're stopping their freedom speech But no because like freedom of speech is you have the ability to protest and to say things and to go out there with signs and You know to express yourself online But you don't have the ability to can't place it You can't just set up a house on the school lawn and keep it there until you decide that it's time to go Like now you're violating the school's property. Yeah, because if you can do it, the white can't homeless people just do it now What do we do everybody do?

2:24:58Yeah, I think that we have to address climate change I'm gonna set up a tent and if you open up the door for that Look regardless of how you feel about whether or not people should be outraged and I think they should You can't just let people can't places and it doesn't say that in the first amendment You just take over places. Yeah yell at Jewish students that didn't have nothing to do with it and demand compliance and And you know, it's a lot of people that like all of a sudden they have something to look forward to this like something important in their life You can feel it my friend Concentrate from trigonometry he went to one of those protests.

2:25:35Well, what college was that? What do you want to Jamie? And it was talking to these kids it was in New York, right? The Columbia that that was I think it was that one No, most of them had no idea what the fuck they were there for they didn't understand the conflict They didn't understand anything they were given signs by people He interviewed a bunch of people that like he tried to ask them and they would get upset at him He's like I'm not just genuinely curious It's no way you're present. They didn't really know what was going on. They didn't have a real position They didn't know the river to the sea means they didn't know they didn't know any of that stuff You know how did this soldier started?

2:26:05Do you know the history of Israel? You know when it started, you know when the first Jews arrived there like what is this conflict? We go on for fucking ever forever. Yeah, and it takes such a like I'm gonna get arrested on school campus for it And you don't even know what's going on. That's wild to me. Yeah, it's wild the whole thing is wild Do you think it's because of just internet people want that community? I want to feel like I got a tribe I got a I got not alone and you're a good person if you want to stop genocide That's true. Yeah, try to stop genocide over here dirt camp and camp in stop genocide It looks like he's in London because that's where they live right?

2:26:41Could be New York to though bro I could be I'm just a hat on judge by where they're at I What it says palatine to you know guys are West Bank then people to be free Yeah, yeah, all Palestinians in general, you know because we know that was going on all of them are being oppressed So for them to be free, you know, it's nothing nothing. You know, it's clear today Yeah, yeah, I was just asking them which bit of the land they was in a college protest This was just Israel. That was just a Palestine protest He's done quite a few of these and they've done about a bunch of different people have done as well on college campuses Asking kids but a lot of these are they were a bunch of college kids that he interviewed in this one of one of these protests They don't know what they're protesting or some of them do but a lot of them don't they're there because they think you're supposed to be a good person And one of them actually said all my friends said do you want to go protest?

2:27:29I was like okay, so I came That yeah, that makes more sense that makes more sense to me why kids right cuz I was I talked to a sign about it Because I just don't really understand I was like why are the kids why are kids from colleges? I noticed isn't affecting your life I've been in college before just here and then I was like oh, well, maybe I played football I had a tribe of friends and I was already oh think so the idea of trying to get into another group of friends That's what I think it really is like you want to feel some community. Yeah, that's a big part of it and also Genocide and If you watch they did some drone footage that showed a drone flying over Gaza before October 7th and then that same drone flying over Gaza today.

2:28:11It's It's crazy. It's crazy. They've erased just Giant blocks of the city. It's just erased before October 7th, there was like ships they flew the drone see if you can find it if not I could probably find it But they flew the drone over the sea so you see the ships in the sea Not the exact same way, but yeah, I see how The universities have been destroyed look at this university. It was destroyed. It was gorgeous. Yeah Look at it everything's just Targeted educational facilities under false permit look at that So they targeted educational institutions because well, I don't know if it's false premises So the problem the problem is you don't know Unless you are there.

2:29:04You don't know like they do have tunnels They do embed themselves in hospitals. They do embed themselves in different places and Israel doesn't give a fuck They're just gonna bomb wherever the bad people are no matter what's there whether it's a school or whether it's a mosque and They're just bombing and if you watch the the what it used to look like versus what it looks like now It's fucking terrifying man. It's terrifying Look at that. Yeah, that's the same. Mm -hmm It's crazy man It's everything's just blown the fuck up and no one's there and the streets are empty. I mean look at this I mean imagine if you used to live there that's what because in your head in America You're like oh that wouldn't happen to me, but it's like why wouldn't it?

2:29:44That's the it looks like a nice building in America Yeah, it looks like a regular nice building that's that's human beings doing that to other human beings That can happen anywhere in the world that can happen right here and if we didn't have a strong military and we didn't have Intelligence agencies that keep terrorist attacks from taking place and all the shit, you know, but then again How much are we doing in other countries that is like getting people to want to do something like that here? You know it's scary stuff man scary stuff because it's not you and it's not me It's it's leaders that are telling gigantic groups of people that you're opposed to these people over here and you get them to Be a part of that community be a part of the tribe whatever side whether you're an IDF soldier or whether you're a mosque You feel like you're on the right side You're gonna fuck those people up It's a horrible instinct that human beings have we've had since the beginning of civilization Just tribal warfare.

2:30:37It's just tribal warfare on a global scale with insanely sophisticated technology At least on one side you're right because it's like if it was happening when we were cavemen or when we were you know In tribes the what there is it's not like it's any difference the same thing just on them Yeah, we can communicate now we can yeah, and what the whole world's watching it and then it also gives People an opportunity like these college kids to to protest it and to feel like they're virtuous by camping out and they're not gonna take their studies and One girl just there was an interview that she found that she wasn't gonna graduate because she got arrested for Protests and so her family's flying in to see her graduate and she wasn't gonna graduate She's like oh shit You feel like what the fuck I thought this was fun.

2:31:28I just wanted to graduate and you know, John my parents paid for this Fuck right and that's a lot of it to a lot of us like young rich kids you have to be a young rich kid I feel like those kids that glue themselves to like paintings and stuff to stop oil now. Yeah almost all from wealthy families All almost all of them from at least upper middle class highly educated people that grew up in a struggle They don't have time to glue themselves to the fucking wall of the museum, okay? You know you have to pay for your mom your mom doesn't have any money and you have a side job while you're at school It's like you guys got a injury shit.

2:32:01Yeah real shit real shit real shit You don't have time to glue yourself to a wall or cut up paintings See these fucking psychopaths cut up these paintings from like the 1800s slice them up with a razor blade priceless paintings Hundreds of years old well, I don't understand because you would think those people would be the people who love art That you're so you would love aren't yeah, but they don't love art by colonizers and slave owners And the thing is if you go back far enough in history everyone's a piece of shit You go back far enough in history. You don't listen to Socrates because he's a pedophile You go back in history.

2:32:34You don't you don't worship the Spartans They all fucked each other and fuck the fuck their kids. They fucked everybody. Yeah These are wild people man if you use like petter -assty like pedophiles back then it was so common They talked about like having young boy lovers. It was like open an open thing You know in other parts of the world right now and these were Stan my friends that have gone to Afghanistan served there They'll do it's crazy Some of the shit you see in Afghanistan With these young boys they get swapped around oh Dude dark shit that's fucked up dark shit and young boys that they they use for sex and these guys don't shave their face Or they shave their face or other where everybody else grows out of beard.

2:33:17Yeah, and they know it and they have like gay guys and they just Toss them around so they use women for procreation some of these people and they use the boys for fun Yeah, what the fuck dude and If you go back far enough in history like that's why you have to take down Thomas Jefferson statue You know, that's why even Abraham Lincoln's piece of shit because Abraham Lincoln even though he freed the slaves And even though Abraham Lincoln was the president of the United States during the Civil War Abraham Lincoln also wrote about black people that they were less than A hundred percent of a human being.

2:33:52He didn't consider them like the same as white people Yeah, so you got to go well he's a piece of shit too And then you go back to George Washington founded this country with a fucking fuck that guy So it's fuck everybody I remember Trump said this once when they were taking down statues of Confederate soldiers They were taking down a statue of like Robert E Lee and He said what's next you're gonna take down George Washington never was like no way meanwhile a couple years later They're taking down George Washington statues damn. Yeah, bro. Everybody was a piece of shit back then And people will bring up like you know Marlou the king Jr.

2:34:27Cheat it on his wife. It's like man That's not the point Yeah, I don't like what people do that when they try to race art or history because people were women He did and they recorded him so like they probably set him up too So they probably brought in a hot lady's to fucking yeah, he was probably like yeah, yeah, I like Let's see. I'm tired. I'm trying to stop racism all day trying to stop you from dying Trying to get everybody get along. I need to get along Yeah, so it's like if you go back far enough like JFK was a notorious womanizer Doesn't mean they should have shot him you know like hey, they fucking murdered the president Don't stop concentrating on the fact that he fucked Marilyn Monroe Like this a lot other shit going on But if you go like way way back like everybody's a piece of shit Human beings were horrible to each other a thousand years ago two thousand years ago three thousand years Your murder was normal that Aztec shit just rolling bodies down my steps come on.

2:35:24Oh my god, dude Then I pocket lip -doh movie ever seen that that kind of that shit. Oh man What is that temple again teo -to -acon the the temple to nochit lawn to nochit lawn the temple of to nochit lawn by the Aztecs They don't even know how many people they slaughtered afterwards, but they sacrificed Thousands and thousands of slaves the upper numbers like 80 ,000 some people to say it might have been as low as 20 ,000 Whatever the fuck it was a moment. They were Finished with the the the temples that they built okay time to die When I get a feed you anymore you finished your work. We're gonna fucking sacrifice you to the gods but they had like The mions had this really creepy when I went to Cheechanita they have this human sacrifice Like tray.

2:36:11It's like a guy who's like lying on his back And there's like a flat thing in front where they would cut people's fucking heads off in front of everybody So it's at the top of the stairs of this pyramid you see this thing and they would fucking lace. I went down there Ever in the city just yeah, and just throw that head down the stairs Head would bounce down the stairs They don't even know sometimes they there's speculation that sometimes they use heads to play games These human heads to play like ball games with Those were fucking why old dude they had ball games where the winning team was slaughtered The winning team was sex.

2:36:51I've heard about that and then that was let the honor right you still you wanted to win This is one of those things where the guide told me this when we were we were really good guide in Cheechanita You pay for a professional guide and this guy was cool as fuck and he also told me that There was something that they were doing some sort of psychedelic compound that they were doing in this one very specific area It was like there was a certain things that they did that mimicked or that had lycurgic acid in it which is like LSD And so he was explaining all that stuff to me They're just talking about the nature of like a lot of these sacrifices and that They used to think that they would sacrifice the losing team But then they switched it and they think no, I think they sacrificed the winning team Which is crazy You win the NBA and everybody gets their head caught off in front of everybody One now it's time to go to the gods Bro me mom they thought it was a way to go like this is gonna be amazing.

2:37:45I'm going to heaven People that come back as a moth I was bad as athlete now. I'm just going towards the flames Fuck this bullshit. Oh my god. I was so cocky. Oh, I thought I was gonna make it. Joe yeah Even if he's not true though that they sacrificed the winning team. I've heard that Could google that because I've heard that I heard that from that guy who's the guide, but this is you know 2000 then people didn't know much back then You know, I was like I don't know I don't know to this day how much they know About what what they don't know what what happened where everybody went with yeah, where are they?

2:38:25I think we died from disease I think they died from the same diseases that Most of the Native Americans were killed with when the Europeans showed up with smallpox syphilis and like syphilis they actually got from Native Americans speculative But a lot of diseases they brought over here and just no one had an immunity to them these European diseases They just ran through it killed 90 % of the population With the real genocide in North America is a disease. How come that didn't happen to uh How come we didn't like some of whatever their diseases we didn't get so affected We did we did with syphilis apparently this was the but this is very speculative and it's disputed But I'll just say it um there's more than one version of syphilis right So there's like one syphilis and again, I've read different accounts of this But there's a syphilis that existed in Europe and then there was a syphilis they believe came from North America that These people that came over on the Mayflower and all that shit they Were fucking some of the Native American people and got their VD and then brought their VD back to Europe and they think that this is why this rash of syphilis This is one theory about why this rash of syphilis went through like European royalty To the point where that's where the term bigwig comes from really yeah the term bigwig is These there's these brothers that were French They were some royalty and they got syphilis and when you get syphilis Your fucking hair falls out you develop like holes in your skin your face has holes in it and to cover up the fact They lost their hair.

2:39:58They got wigs and uh and they were so popular that it's like you know what someone Where something stupid you like how is that work? Yeah, everybody's wearing this thing because Kanye wore it You know, so everybody's wearing the same shit that Kanye wore Well, that's how they were they were so influential that when they got wigs everybody wanted wigs And then since there everyone's fucking everybody everyone's getting syphilis So they all have like holes in their faces and shit and they got wigs and the more money you had the bigger the wig So if you're rich dude, you're a bigwig That is so crazy in that crazy because like when you heard that term and I heard that term as a kid Oh, he's a bigwig like the bigwig is like oh, he's a banker.

2:40:37He's a bigwig. He's a big. Yeah, big shot. That's what it is Okay, well the hoops Sometimes the ball will go through the hoop located at the alley's midpoint if that happened the whole group would stop And the person who put the ball through the hoop would be hailed as a victor Helmke said but he didn't say that that was the point of the game He said that might happen once in a while that it was truly exceptional Moreover the vast majority of ball courts in the Maya do not have hoops And then here's the second one. Oh human sacrifice Well, there's this part too So like I think the sacrifice part came over when the Europeans came and saw what was happening They probably did not understand what was going down.

2:41:12Oh, this is interesting. This is probably not really part of it Interesting although it did happen, but they definitely sacrificed a lot of people right and not maybe I in association with this game That was oh I see I see I see interesting interesting Um, so what does this say there? Um, given how popular and well -attended the ball games were sometimes a captive might be executed at the game just for funzies Helmke said but these sacrifices weren't integral part of the game that person would have been expedited executed anyway Oh, so they would do it for fun So when you ask this question I was looking through this article which comes from a tabloid I'll add the Sun But uh talks about these skull towers they found mm -hmm Uh, they had found upwards of 200, but the experts say that that means that there might have been thousands and thousands and thousands of skulls Embedded embedded in these towers, but they were destroyed and covered up When the Europeans came Oh, so they already had these skulls embedded in the these walls?

2:42:10Yeah, not then then you asked if they were coming from like the game I was trying to find out if that's oh my god. Look at this one historical report claimed one rat contained more than 130 ,000 skulls And that could be you know like some guy saw it and he was like it was so big there was There was a hundred thousand and thousands of them and then maybe there was but bro imagine being back then Imagine going back then before the Europeans conquered them and to see what the fuck were you guys doing How did you go back up to that image of the what the the outside looked like a little higher up that one Imagine just showing up one day to this place going what the fuck are you guys taking Why What are you doing?

2:42:54Why did you guys do this? Why don't you just make huts? You made these the steps. They're they're all skulls inside bro. They don't even have horses They didn't even have horses. They didn't have horses. No No, they didn't have horses when the Europeans showed up in horses. They thought they were gods Like you look at these guys they're riding horses. They're fucking gods Yeah, that was part of the problem. They didn't understand how someone could ride a horse like oh my god These must be the gods. They must be just like the prophecies they've come On these beasts right and beast yeah, and show up in boats like what the fuck you guys have a boat I need to show it up with horses hoppin horses out of the boat like this is crazy These two that would be like alien showing up in spacecraft because we would be like what the what is this Jamie?

2:43:37Three quarters of the skulls analyzed but long -dement aged 20 to 35 when they were all said to have been in relatively good health before they were sacrificed Oh my god, so it's all sacrifices. Oh my god 130 ,000 sacrifices at least in one wall And good health is crazy. Oh those people were wild. They were wild man building those structures no horses and killing everybody just sacrificing people What were they taking man? What would they have to be on say we're on some hardcore trucks They probably had their own version of meth just methed out Spanish conkeys stores were appalled at the skull rack when they entered to nochit lawn in 1519 two years later they destroyed the city and paved over its ruins leaving the Aztec sacrificial sacrificial remains below the streets of what later became the Mexican capital holy fucking shit man That's where Mexico City is right to live on top of it because Mexico City like when they're doing Construction they have to stop all the time like oh hold on we found a temple They'll find some shit down there.

2:44:44They find ruins. They find all kinds of things for a long time Many historians and anthropologists questioned whether descriptions by Spanish I witnessed is exaggerated the number of skulls on the skull rack as well as a number of victim sacrifice by the Aztecs He told Fox News this discovery now makes those early accounts much more believable. Oh my god. What's the new discovery? I think just that like this whole article is the discovery that they found all the skulls Fuck dude. Look at this evil mother fuckers Fact what what are they doing? Why would they do it convincing me in good health you're right?

2:45:18They had to be on some kind of math some kind of I wonder if that's why God sent the Europeans to them Like you guys are just out of control. We got a teach you Spanish. We got to get you guys spoons Did you spoons teach you Spanish and bring you horses? Which is horrible if you think about it at the time I mean we think about it as a terrible thing that happened You know the Europeans came here brought disease killed everybody and slaved everybody turn the whole country Spanish speaking Like Mexico speaks Spanish, bro Spain ain't nowhere near Mexico. What it ain't even close to Mexico That's a long journey I don't know raffed It took over the whole mother fucker took over the whole mother fucker Took over the whole mother fucker and the people that were in control of it before then probably worse Probably worse than them sacrifice in young able bodied men Yeah, and relatively good health off with your fucking head you're become a part of the column Congratulations, and you're like yeah, yes imagine you're a 25 year old guy like how I'm gonna fucking aspirations one day I'd like to run this thing nope You can't run this you can't be a king give no chance No, you gotta be born in this shit The born into it is the worst because you can't escape that cast system right The worst the most evil trick that anybody ever played on the man the most evil trick I seen it first.

2:46:49Hey, we went to Abu Dhabi. I seen it. I seen what it was like. Oh over here You can't ain't no coming out of ain't no Joe Rogan ain't no coming out of the Boston swarms and making it to this Hey from the bottom now. Oh, come on See But yeah, no no there's none of that there's none of that there and that's one of the things about England too I mean even in modern England my friends who've come over from England say in England They don't want you to change your status in society. They don't want you to rise up if you're lower class you stay lower class you're that forever Yeah, I like America only fans.

2:47:27It's the best come on. It's the best You got some big titties you read it. You want to show them you can be a fucking star bro I ain't getting a job an insurance company if I got these big titties Yeah, fuck that I feel you ladies go for it. Oh my daughter doing it, but go for it Do whatever you want to do. I want you to be free. Oh, if you're you know, everybody has different circumstances if you're trapped Yeah, what is this you talked about how the horses came with The end of your pins, but I was like what did they else did they not use anything to now have nothing anything? They brought donkeys also donkeys weren't here either.

2:48:01Mm -hmm interesting. Yeah, that makes sense 1490 and then mules are the the cross of donkeys and horses. We should the best that didn't exist probably well They probably existed in North in Europe Okay, I don't know. Let's find out when did they start first start breeding mules Emules are non -viable meaning a mule can't make another mule You need a donkey and a horse to make a mule Wow 3000 BC. Yeah, but they're the most durable. They're the sturdiest of animals like the guys who go backpack hunting like deep into the mountains my friend Clay Newcombe came on this podcast. He raises mules and He talks about like flashy mules a good looking mule like but mules are like better than horses because mules won't go over the cliff Horses is like oh, it's glue with the cliff mules like fuck you.

2:48:49I'm not going this way. This is dangerous It's an edge. Yeah, when the when the mule gets to a place where it doesn't like it is like That's why the term stubborn is a mule. That's where that comes from because mules are smart That's they're smart. Yeah They figured out that that's the animal to run because they they they require less water less food They're more durable. They can last longer without water and food How many animals are like that in order that it takes two things to make them but they can't make themselves There's quite a few hybrids like that. That's a ligar like those lions and tigers and the burritos together and they make that one thing huge Yeah, well the thing about the ligar is I think what happens is Whether it's the male lion or the female tiger one of them is missing the gene that regulates growth So when you combine it coy wolf.

2:49:37Yeah, the thing about coy wolf though grisly polar bear hybrid. Yeah A Walpin. It's a whale of the dolphin. What is that real? That must be the smartest animal alive What a whale in a dolphin a Walpin is extremely rare Cestation hybrid Born from a mating of a female common bottle nose dolphin with a male false killer whale Wow the name applies to a hybrid of a whale in a dolphin although taxonomically Both are within the oceanic dolphin family Which is within the toothed whale Provedor there's a lot of fish that are hybrids There's hybrid bass that are like a hybrid between small mouth and large mouth that happens a jaggolion.

2:50:20Oh shit Jaggol a bee below a buffalo that fucked a cow Interesting. There's quite a few. Yeah, but most of them can't breathe any end result That's crazy Most of them can't breed like by themselves. They can't you can't take like two two mules and they won't make a mule They just fuck they just get wild. There's gonna crazy. There's nothing happening just cases Just bad loads just useless loads Nothing in there. Yeah Just dead loads Yeah, because nature's like no, no, no, you can't be fucking around like this. Yeah, just like you try once and then you're done This one's not viable. It's interesting like nature is it coded that way or it doesn't like the idea of a dog being able to fuck a horse and make a dog horse like no Too crazy too crazy.

2:51:10It knows yeah, you have to stay within your species and if you're different things in this species like a cat like a lion and a tiger No babies for you. You can make a you can fuck and make one, but that one not making any new ones That's what that is. Yeah, somehow or another nature just like built -in like a system It's like no, no, it's too crazy. Is it like I guess like Down syndrome? How they can't have kids they can we can have it. No, they can they can't have kids. Yeah, not only can they have kids they can have kids that are normal Yeah, yeah, I'm 99 % sure that every Christian this kind of dog What is that?

2:51:48I say it Whoa 3000 year old boy xol L .O. I .Z C U I N T L I pronounced Show low eats queen T. Lee Quinkly show you show low eats queen T. Lee show show yo show low eats queen T. Lee you didn't have to call You don't have to call that I fucked multiple girls with that name ah The ancient Aztec dog of the gods is today a loving companion and vigilant watchdog the alert in loyal X low comes in three sizes and he's either hairless or oh coated varieties wow that hair is awesome That's a 3000 year old dog That's the wildest shit that all dogs come from wolves So that thing at one point in time was a wolf and the bitch ass wolves made their way to the campfire and Drop their ears a little bit and kind of relaxed and became friends with the people because the people gave them food Yep, and then they became dogs All dogs even little car over there little tiny carl at one point in time many many many many thousands of years ago Carls a wolf They don't even know like exactly how long ago that process started there's like guesses, but they you know they vary by The humans did this we did that 100 % yeah, we did that cats do or no Um cats are like a lot of wild cats.

2:53:17There's a lot of different kinds of cats that bred But the domestic cat of today is very different than most wild cats But it's like they did this thing with foxes In Russia where they took wild foxes and the ones that were aggressive that like showed any aggression towards people All they killed them and the ones that didn't show aggressive they let them breed and they kept doing this over many many generations and In within like a few decades the fox had completely changed its form They had droopy ears. They had big soft sweet eyes. They had smaller mouths It changed the fox like quick quick like in the the course of this study So not something that took place over thousands of years But by any by killing any one of them that was aggressive They made only the ones that were like sweet and passive survive.

2:54:02That's how you get like my dog That's how you get martial he just like Any one of those golden retrievers that was mean they didn't let them breed So what you get is it's like this big sweet loving dog. It just loves everybody And that's how that was a wolf There was a wolf But over many many many generations of selective breeding they turned it into this crazy thing I don't know how the fuck they did it But it just shows you how bizarre nature is that nature can make those adaptations I think about humans. I mean we were just about the Aztecs or like gangas, con people or Vikings to yeah to now Yeah to now yeah Like we clearly just pacified it.

2:54:40It's chilling it out Yeah, and especially these kids on college campuses They don't even know what gender they are anymore like there's no need A lot of them are saying there's no need for gender or it's all bullshit like they they're trying there That's the direction that things are moving things are moving into a genderless direction What whether it's being influenced by who what how or when that's irrelevant what's what's what I'm saying is It's clearly moving in that direction and if you didn't have anything to do with the population If you were something that was completely outside of society looking at us He'd be like oh, they're like feminizing.

2:55:14They're feminizing everything Yeah, they're also feminizing in terms of even men are behaving like bitches. Yeah They're behaving like like caddy wenches And uh, and it's also rewarded. It's rewarded and it's not disgusting Whereas it would be disgusting behavior for a man to behave like that in a tribal society that requires those men to be strong It's stoic like you have to be able to sword fight stupid. Yeah, they rid of that man. Yeah, you can't that guy's a bitch a caddy man in a tribe Yeah, the fuck are we doing? Yeah Yeah, he's talking to your girl while he was on a raiding party. I Think I long to survive as a male feminist in the tribal society Oh, you I because I come home my wife said that to that you said that and I kill you right yeah I feel like it's hard you'd be a part of that column immediately.

2:56:05Yeah, immediately we have to get rid of you Yeah, you have to get rid of you and everyone else in the tribe like oh thank god you got rid of that guy Yeah, that guy was a problem Yeah, the problem dark but if you do that over time And there's enough safety we become just like dogs We become some sort of a domesticated version of what was once wolves And I know if that's good about it. Yeah, because it's you were resisting it in some ways because it's that there's still the problem is There's these passive people are not overall kind They're very aggressive with trying to enforce their ideas on everybody else and you must comply So it's very much like I'm gonna get back at you thing It's being picked on when you were a young thing an outsider that's finally a part of a gang And you're like you're gonna enforce these ideas on other people So The ideology is not rooted in compassion even though it pretends to be it's in rooted like all the ideologies It's rooted in control and people are just trying to control people and get everyone else to comply with the way they now see the world And when you're weak and you're doing that it's not good because you're also like you're angry at the world You're angry at the way you were mistreated or you were an outsider and now you're not now you're a part of a group And so now you're gonna and do the exact same thing to people that they did to you You're gonna hurt them just like you got hurt.

2:57:23Yeah, bro. It's the worst mentality. Is that happened to me Happened to me that's what you're being said. Happy to me. That's how it's for me. Yeah, it's like what don't you want it to not be that way? Yeah, people don't man Yeah, it's just a natural human instinct for fucking whatever bizarre reason man So it's it's a control thing that's the scary thing you can't let people control it doesn't mean that you shouldn't let people Drift off into this genderless direction like you do whatever you want to do I think this is happening whether we like it or not. I think it's happening with it There's a lot of like chemical influences There's microplastics that are influencing the way testosterone levels are in young people the development of their sex organs And this this this gonna be doing something.

2:58:04It's gonna be doing something There's propaganda that's actually getting through your phone too. That's affecting the way People reward certain types of behavior and people like to gravitate towards behaviors that are rewarding You know if you're a loser and then also you're amazing because now you're wearing a dress You're like I'm gonna keep wearing this dress everybody like fucking hugs me when they see me the thing I'm cool. These things are a loser Yeah, and that's and that you hear that you're like damn I understand that I understand it I want to be hugged too like but if I was objective and I was it wasn't A part of the human race which I clearly am if I was looking at it from outside I would say like what is the end goal of this like where does this go?

2:58:39Well, it's clearly going to some genderless alien -looking direction. I think that's what the aliens are When we see that archetypal alien the big head the genderless body. Yeah, I think that's where we're going I think that's just I think even if aliens aren't real even if you don't really see them I think that's an archetype in our head because it's almost like a like a light On the path that showing us this is where you're going you're going to that this futuristic. Yeah, everyone is one being Vikings Genderless Slowly but surely right caveman Vikings genderless Yeah, but the thing is they're not nice You know you can go that way if you want but don't try to force it me and you don't force it on people that were born Biologically male.

2:59:25There's nothing wrong with that. That's not this is a whole reason why you're not speaking German Shut the fuck up like like this whole idea of like toxic masculinity That's all great until you need someone to help you so you need it That's all great until you need someone to open up a jar of mayonnaise You know Listen, you need all those things you just need people to be nice You need to be people to be nice that are like savages and people that are nice that are pacifists Everyone should just be nice and we can live like that. Just don't fuck with each other Yeah, you never see him not never but it is crazy that they make such a big deal about gender stuff sometimes It's like well, you don't look happy though.

3:00:00You don't look We're not being nice about it, which is you're not being nice what you would want But it's because they also feel like they're embattled right there in this thing They're fighting for their cause and then they exaggerated like there's a trans genocide like What stop? Okay, you getting away with too much because you're in a university setting and everybody like saying you're amazing You know once a question. No, let's go shot the fuck off Because you that's the other problem with kids today. It's like they only have one thought process is one ideology It's not a bunch of right -wing people that are fucking camping and I'm making sure they can carry guns at school because this school shooter We're gonna camp out until we can carry guns and fucking building.

3:00:39No, that's not that's not gonna happen So it's like you've got one ideology and the crazy thing is like There's two sides that ideology because the left wing is always Jewish too This is not a lot of like really hard Wings Leslie thinking about like Ben Shapiro and a few other Dennis Prager right -wing Jewish folks a lot of Jewish people that we know They're Democrats. They've always been kind of traditionally like what what percentage let's find this out What percentage of Jewish people vote Democrat? This is that's even a Pole I bet you have to be and I bet you the No, so group could tell you.

3:01:14They won't they don't want to tell you that they know they'd be fucking track Yeah, they know they know But I would guarantee it's a very high number So now you have a conflict amongst that side because you have one side that says that what's happening in God? Is genocide and the other side that says Israel has the right to defend itself and that this is you know What we did in Iraq after 9 -11 what we did in did it after that what we did in Japan All no one knows mad at any of them Got a son told me recently 7 -10 Jewish adults identify with or lean towards a Democratic party and have described their political views as liberal Yeah So 7 -10 70 % and so inside that party You've got people that are literally on college campus is saying death to the Jews and supporting Hamas and You're supposed to be left wing too.

3:02:10So now you're like if I was a country that was trying to destroy America I would I would push these ideas Interesting subsect the orthodox Jews which is one in 10 of Jewish adults is 60 to 75 % conservative of a Republican that makes sense right because they're like strictly religious Which would make you much more conservative? 75 % identifies Republicans or lean towards the GOP and 81 % approved the Trump's job performance at the time of the survey Everybody's making money. We're making money Trump You're stupid Derek let's wrap this up. You're a fucking man. It's been a pleasure getting to know you becoming friends with you Either at the store and I just want thank you for being one of the early adopters coming out here early on and It's been beautiful man.

3:02:56We're having a good fucking time. I have a joke. Thank you for changing my life brother Appreciate you. Love you too. All right. Goodbye everybody You