#2149 - Sebastian Maniscalco

26:26So I should go for a walk. Go for a walk right in neighborhood. I just saw something online that's walking. I was going to share that. Oh, it was an agreement lab. Oh, yeah, there it is. That's from Andrew Huberman again. Brief post meal walks and blood sugar regulation. So they explain the simple yet large positive effect that a brief post meal walk as simple as it may sound, the date is impressive. And it is impressive stuff. I forget exactly what the numbers were, but you should, 3035 % the change in your blood sugar level is by taking a walk around the block after a meal. Pretty amazing. With all this stuff that's out, right?

27:05All this information of how to live your life. And you took me to a tour. You got the, you got the, the, the, the song on it. I feel like at this age of 50, all the stuff that you got to do to prepare for the day. By the time you're done with it, you got to go back to bed again, right? So by the time you work out, do the cold plunge, you're in the sun, you're in the tank, and then it's time to go to bed. You got to do, right? It used to be you just work out for an hour, you took a shower, and you went out with your day. Now I got to go submerge myself in water. I got to go sweat. Then I got to go float in the tank.

27:45The tank takes a lot of time, but the other things don't take the float tank takes a lot of time. But the other things like cold plunge adds three minutes to my day. So I'm going to add 20 minutes to my day. It's 25 extra minutes of my workout. That's it. I wasn't looking for the time breakdown, Joe. I was just saying, but it doesn't take the whole day. But I'm just saying the, the, the amount of shit with the, then you want to eat the vitamins, the half of the cup. But then, but, but, but, but, but it's all said done. It's time for dinner. No, no. You get things done, man. Just sit you exaggerating.

28:19I get you doing that. I don't, I don't, this is the way you do humor. I get it. I get it. It's plenty of time. It's plenty of time. You just don't waste your, like today I wasted an hour just scrolling through Instagram. It's one of the rare days I just felt like indulging myself. Like this? Fuckin' see what's going on in the world. A bunch of nonsense. Some interesting things. But just a bunch of nonsense for a whole hour. Just wasted, scrolling. Yeah, I mean, there's, there's time. There's mind numbing things that you do to kind of like, whatever carry yourself throughout the day. Yeah. I'm just saying 20 years ago, nobody knew about any of this shit about what you're sweating and what that does.

28:58No. You got now with the internet. You could throw up. You know, before the internet, if we were talking about walking, right? We would just go, oh yeah, now walk is good for you. Right. Next thing, you know, now we got, we got a whole study up on the screen of how walking is beneficial to you and this that and the other thing. I'm just saying with the amount of information out there, sometimes it feels a little bit overwhelmed going, how much do I, how much do I got to do to get through the day? Well, it depends on how you want to feel. If you want to have a lot of energy, like I do, you have to do a lot of things.

29:38And I firmly believe this is the reason why I'm so productive. And I think if I didn't do the cold punch in the song and the workouts and the vitamins and the eating healthy, I'd be a completely different human being. I know, that's why I wouldn't have the energy. No, I get it. I'm just, it's just, there's a lot you got to do. Yeah, there's a lot you got to do. Like I see people on internet sweating. So I'm like, then I'm like, okay, do I got to start sweating? Is the steam room that I got at home? Is that not enough to a couple you calyptics sprays breathe in, sweat a little bit, and then I come out, right?

30:12That's not bad. Okay, but now do I need an infrared sauna? Because now I got to get the sweat that's inside that's not coming out. Let's see what's happening. The infrared sauna is probably very good for you, but there's not a lot of data on it. Like there is with the traditional dry sauna. A traditional dry sauna, there's a lot of very beneficial data. And the thing about the difference between steam and sauna is you can't really get steam hot enough. Because you'll cook, because it's just too crazy. You know, you can't get a 190 degree steam shower. You'd literally go in there and scald your skin.

30:45But you can get a 190 degree dry sauna and you go in there and you really fucking sweat. And that's when your body develops all those heat shock proteins. Because your body's reacting to it overheating. So it has to do something to sort of mitigate that effect. And that effect of mitigating it is what's so beneficial for your life. I mean, there's a study out of Finland. They did a 20 year study that found that using the sauna four times a week for 20 minutes at a time, and I think it was 175 degrees, lowers your all cause mortality by 40%. That means strokes, heart attack, cancer, everything, lowers it by 40%.

31:25And this is a long term study of many, many people. So the 190 degrees is a lot more beneficial than the steam. As steam at 120, is that doing anything on the waste of energy? It's doing something with the waste of energy. Yeah, it's all good. A hot bath is good. Everything is good. Getting your body to heat up is good. Because it gets your body to react. And it's the same thing. It develops those heat shock proteins. A really hot bath is very good for you. If you can get it a nice hot, especially if you get some Epsom salts in there, you get that magnesium. You got a really hot bath. Very, very good for you.

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33:40No. Why did you do that? So I don't mind. Look at how I'm going to try this. I'm a guy. I'm telling you right now. This is what I do. I don't do research. None? None. I see that. I go, oh, okay, spray it in the magnesium. I was just be putting sacks on. I'm going to try that tonight. That's it. No Google search. No Google search. No, nothing. It could be killing me for all I know. I don't think it is. But I'm doing magnesium feet sack sleeps. Does it seem to have a change in the way you feel? Again, having done it consistently enough to even find out if this is helping me. Right. So I'm a guy that does things kind of on the whim and there's really no consistency with it.

34:25Right. Let's look into it for you because the magnesium foot spray, that's, I'm now interested. What is the deal behind that? There's definitely multiple products being sold for as magnesium oil for your feet. I didn't see anything necessarily saying need to keep socks on too. I throw the socks out just because I don't want to oil it. I don't want magnesium all over the bed. I'm trying to find my own. Yeah, that's a good move. That's what I'm doing. My wife is even looking at me going, Jesus Christ. I'm going to spray it. Come back there. You're the best. I'm just spraying my feet and my wife.

34:59She's like, really? You make magnesium on your feet. Is this sort of relationship?

35:07What the fuck? So I don't know if you get, the internet probably don't even have this information. I saw it like on a random, I think it was an Instagram video. Well, I would imagine it get absorbs through your skin just like the float tank does. The float tank is a great source of magnesium because there's a thousand pounds of Epsom salt. It's called the water and your skin absorbs it. So to imagine your skin's absorbing that stuff, you're spraying on your feet. Yeah, it just doesn't absorb it as well as like an oral supplement. Okay. That's about all it says. Yeah, so not good absorption. But it works a little bit.

35:40Okay. Full salt. I can help with cramps or some sort of nerve functions. Magnesium helps people sleep though, right? That's a good one for sleep. Yeah. Yeah. I notice sometimes when I get those IV and it's magnesium in there, I feel exhausted. Relaxed. Relaxed. The IV? Again, this is another thing people do. Right. Oh, you got to get a bag of whatever the hell's in the thing. Right. I don't even ask. Just give me the bag, whatever you, whatever you, and then I get it, right? Don't feel any different. No? I don't know. You will if you're sick. Yeah. Well, I tell everybody, if you are down, if you're feeling shit and you're run down, get an IV vitamin drip.

36:23It'll, it's a game changer, especially with a high dose of zinc and vitamin C. You get an IV vitamin bag and you will feel way better. Bill Burr was sick as a dog when I saw him last. I was like, how long you been sick for? He's like, two weeks. I can't shake this call. I go, please listen to me. I just do this. Get a vitamin IV and he texts me the other day. He's like, Dr. Rogan, he goes, he fixed me. I'm going to do that from now on. I'm like, from now on. Anytime you're sick, you feel like shit. Get a high dose of vitamin C, zinc, B12, the whole deal in a bag. You'll feel, you'll feel much, much better.

37:02Because it gives your body the tools it needs to fight off. Whatever the fuck is trying to get you. Yeah, Joe, listen. I've done the bag. Right. Well, ill. Has it hasn't helped? Well, it, it, it, it's helped, but not like where I came out of it. Like, this is what I'm thinking. If I take the bag and I got a cough after I take the bag, the cough should go away. I don't want the cough anymore. And if the cough is still there, I feel like, yeah, yeah. Have you ever done NAD? No. NAD is rough. How do you say it again? Nuclear tide, a DNA nine, what does it do? Nickatine nine. Yeah. Adenine. Adenine.

37:46Dynucleotides. Oh, yeah. What is it? So NAD is a supplement that you can take that actually helps your telomeres lengthen, which is a sign of healthy, healthy bodies and young people. Found in all living cells, NAD is called Dynucleotide because it consists of two nucleotides joined through their phosphorus groups. So you take that in an IV bag and generally most people do it over a long period of time. You do it over like two hours. So you just watch a movie because it's very uncomfortable. What? What they get in? Yeah, the NAD is very uncomfortable. It's very uncomfortable for your stomach. It makes you like crap.

38:26Oh, okay. If you do it quick, it's like it's an intense feeling that most people don't enjoy. What's the benefit? What does it do? There's a lot of benefits. It's a benefit for your immune system. It's a benefit cognitively. You feel much better. You just, you come out of it when your bodies replenish with that stuff. You just feel fantastic. Okay. Feel really good. That's something else I got to do. But that's one that needs some time. Unless you can go hardcore and just like deal with the uncomfortable feeling. I'm going to do anything hardcore, or nothing. Nothing in my life is hardcore. Interesting.

39:03Interesting. Do you have an aversion to hardcore things? Or is this how it all panned out? It's just how I'll panned out. Hardcore for me is... Hardcore is comedy. That's what I do. Okay. Hardcore is one thing. One thing we're all in on. All in on comedy. Other than that, outside, I wish I was more interested and dove into things a little bit more deeper than I have. Everything with me is a little bit on the surface. Do you really wish that? Because I feel like if you did wish that, you would just do it. Right? Yeah. I just wish I had the... I don't know what it is inside me that would make me want to learn more about.

39:42I like cooking, right? But I don't dive so into it where I'm coming up with recipes and doing this and that and the other thing. Right. Let's look at a YouTube video, make the fish and then here's the fish. But I don't take it to another level. I don't go get the beautiful knife or the pots and pans and all the stuff that goes along with cooking. My interest level is surface. Rarely does it go underneath the surface. You know what I really got into out here is cooking over wood. Like live, like actual hard wood. Not just lump charcoal, like getting wood and using an offset smoker and slowly searing the steaks or slowly like cooking the steaks rather and then searing them at the end over the end.

40:32I take the coals and I put the coals from the hard wood underneath the grill and then see the shit out of it. I hear that. I hear that. Yeah. And my brain is going to explode like that. That's too much. That's too much. But we're all different. Yeah. So I don't know what. Do you know the kind of wood that it live, you want oak generally alive oak or you want if you want to grill hotter, you like a lot of guys like Mesquite. I like Mesquite and oak. Those are my two favorite. But I'll try cherry. I'll try some different woods, some places you can go to get hard wood just for some, because there's so much barbecue out here.

41:12Yeah. There's companies that will just deliver cords of wood to your house. Okay. Speaking of wood. Right. I got a pizza oven. My goal is to make pizza. It's not as easy as people might think to make pizza from scratch. No. No, no. It's very hard. So I've tried multiple times. And you know, I'm the, again, I'm a guy that I'll try it again and hope for a different result, but I'll do the same, same thing I did before. Right. Just hoping magically, oh, it's going to come out. Is it? My pizza don't even look like pizza. It looks like the shapes are unrecognizable. All right. I can't even get a circle on the damn thing to work, you know, I work it out.

41:56It's not pliable enough. So when I put it in there, half of the cheese flies off into the stove and I bring it out. It's a mess. Why don't you get pre -made dough? You can get pre -made dough, Joe. And for whatever the reason, I cannot get a circle with the thing. I try this. I bet if you went to like a real Italian pizza real, they would show you how to do it. Again, you went there? Joe, listen, you teach me something. I come home. I forget half of the shit I learned. I don't have any retention or comprehension on anything. Is this always been the case? It's always been the case. But now it's comedy.

42:33Now it's like a win. That's what I was just thinking. The one thing that you're successful at, like super successful at, you've like focused entirely on that. I had no more focus. The focus I have is for comedy after that, the focus waned because I feel like I just don't have, you know, the focus. That's probably a good way to live. Yeah, just to be casual most of your life and be intense about one thing. That sounds like a good balance. I don't think it's anything wrong with that. Well, I would like to learn more things as I, you know, even when you got kids now, you could teach your kids how to do the archery, the archery thing, you know, hunting, you know, how to hunt.

43:13I'm trying to figure out what am I passing on to my kids as far as skill sets as a concern. Yeah, I probably talking shit. Talking shit. That's how we get it talking shit. My kids are real good at talking shit. They say some funny things, man. It's fun. We have a fun house. It's like a lot of fun shit talking. That's always, that's always good. Then they make fun of me too, which is fun. Like there's no, you know, I could never make fun of my parents. There was none of that growing up. They're fucking yellow, too. Oh, we had that relationship with my parents. Yeah, you can't be Italian parents.

43:50No, no, we did. Oh, you had a relationship joking around. Yeah, just goofing around. You know, my parents were not like that. No, they didn't. There was not a lot of joking around. No. So I love joking around. And so they make it fun of me all the time. Like it's hilarious. Your daughters? Yeah, they're funny. They talk shit. And they know that I like it. They know that I laugh. So everyone's like, we have a good time. They talk shit to each other. They talk shit to their friends. It's like, talking shit is fun. It's like, it's a fun activity. It's one of my favorite things about a green room at a comedy club.

44:22Is that everybody's talking shit. You go back there, everybody's bustin' balls, cracking on people, guys and girls. Everyone's laughing. Or I'll just, like, shit with each other. Yeah. And it's hilarious. It's such a beautiful environment. You know, like a green room of a comedy club where you're around a bunch of good people. And everyone's laughing. And we're all jazzed up because you're about to do shows. Oh, that's how I wanted it. I wish you were in last night. I wanted to take you to the club. Yeah, and I wish I would have came to the club. It's so much fun, man. It's such a great spot. But here's my thing with that.

44:55Here's my thing. Here's my take on the green room at a comedy club. I generally tend to retreat and just listen to everything that's going on when comedians get together. I'm never the guy like center of attention or contributing to the fun. I've always been the guy that just kind of comes in quiet and listen. Right. Because I don't know a lot of the comedians intimately enough to have that comfortable. So if I walk into a room like here, I just did the show with Seinfeld, Nate Bergazzi, and Jim Gaffigan. And we all backstage. I tend to be the one who's... I listen. And I chime in every now and again.

45:46Right. Right. Right. I don't have to be the guy that comes in and kind of like pisses on the room going on. That's actually good. That's a good trait. Yeah. Yeah. And also when you're around those guys like, hey, what a great time to sit back and listen. You got Seinfeld, Nate Bergazzi, and Jim Gaffigan and the room together? Look at that. Yeah. So we had a great time. But when did that's... That's crazy. When did what? I was gonna say, like, look at you. You look like an Arab. It doesn't even look like you. When did you turn into a guy from Palestine? I don't know. Where's that photo? What did some of the toys put a filter on you?

46:24What did you do? That does not look like you. Am I right, Jimmy? I just dark. No, no, no, no. Dark. He came off a yacht. There's no other way. Like, the screw... He looks like a guy in the Mediterranean who shows you how to get octopus. What does that say? I'm a Mediterranean one. You don't even look like you. Like, in that photo, you look handsome. Don't get me wrong. You look great. But you don't look like you. No, you know what it is. All the other... Everybody else is white. They got... That's what it is. When you're next to Jim Gaffigan, right? Right, right, right. Of course you're gonna look like you...

46:53That's the feeling of... The real face. He looks like a Palestinian. He looks like a normal color. And that, which is wrong. Yeah. Look at that. Well, that at least looks like you. That other photo did not look like you. Maybe it was the lighting, Joe. But that's me. I was there. I believe you. I 100 % believe you. I'm just saying that. Go to that last photo, Jamie. I'm not lying. Right? Go to that last photo. Get the fuck out of here. Isn't it you? That's something... That's something dude that works for the Saudi Arabian government. I mean, came over here. Make some sort of a deal to try to get comedy to come over the Middle East.

47:29I know a lot of guys do comedy in the Middle East. They give you a list of shit you can't talk about. I did it. Oh, wait. I went with a bunch of comedians. That scares me. A list of shit you can't talk about. Like, what if I slip up? Yeah. But there's a moment in the crowd with yells of the doubt. And I think it would be funny to say something. And whoopsies. Yeah, there's a lot of editing. Now you're in jail. Yeah. Yeah. Who had a problem with that? Who was it? Someone actually went to one of those Middle East countries and did a gig and almost got arrested. It was Eddie Ift. Yeah. The only thing that saved him, I believe the story was.

48:09I believe it's Eddie. I think the only thing that saved him is some of the royal family thought he was hilarious. They didn't have a problem with what he said at all. I think he called someone sir when he not supposed to call him sir. He was supposed to call him your highness or your ex -alency. And he was referring to people in the audience and talking to them and calling them sir. And then they were trying to arrest him afterwards. Geez. Yeah. Yo. Like sir's not good. That's not even like I thought it was something. No, wasn't even that's why I'm nervous. Like that's not even that I mean that's not even anything crazy.

48:42That's nothing. But your brand of humor. Did you take that and did you do corporates and that wasn't your style? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Everybody that I've ever known that's done a corporate after they do them they go why did they do that? Ron White just did one of those. His or his fucking experience in my life. But they offered me a shitload of money and I said yes. I kept saying no but they kept coming up with higher numbers. And eventually I said yes and he was fucking terrible. Tony Hanskiff just did one. He said it was fucking terrible. They're always terrible.

49:14You like him? Joe, I got to be honest. You like him. I don't mind a corporate. Really? I really don't mind a corporate. Yeah, I've even had those awful corporate gigs where you know. But what percentage of what? I just ran into Sandler. He told me he ate dick at a corporate gig. Yeah, I mean Adam Sandler. Yeah, they're not. They paid to see Adam Sandler. They knew Adam Sandler was going to be there and it's still sucked. It's the environment sometimes. It's like you're walking into whatever they just had their breakout meeting and then they're coming and they're, oh, it's comedy. But it's just a different vibe.

49:46They're all scamming about their careers. They're all networking. Yeah. Yeah, fucking making their little backstabby moves. But you call them out on that. You know, you kind of like do material about what they're going through during the three day sales meeting at the Venetian. Right. You know, so you kind of relate to, I actually, I don't mind them as much as other comedians, I'll corporate this. I actually don't mind. Jay Leno loves them. Yeah. I mean, that's where he's made the majority of his money. Jay Leno, all those fucking cars he has, never spent a dime of his tonight's your money. I know.

50:23Never spent a dime. Put it on the back. It's amazing. All those cars, it's all him doing gigs. Well, there. You didn't grow up with money, right? So, now you're super successful and you got this money. Was there someone that taught you how to manage money or how to look at money in a way where you're like, okay, I have a good grasp on this. Yeah, I mean, money, manager, what have you. But I'm just talking to your relationship with money. Is it like, yeah, we're here. You live it up, spend it. Or is it more like, do you ever think this is not going to be the most popular podcast ever? Or do you even think that way?

51:05I don't think that way. I never thought it would be popular in the first place. When I first started doing it, there was just me and Brian Redban in my fucking living room. Like, and then comedians, Joey Diaz come over. Eddie Bravo comes over. R .E. comes over. We're just having fun. Just talking shit. I never imagined. I didn't plan for it. Like, when everybody has those vision boards, like, this is how you become successful. You have to manifest it. I didn't manifest this at all. Zero. The most successful thing I've ever done by a long shot. And I've put zero management into it. The all I've done is just keep doing what I enjoy doing.

51:43And it turns out other people enjoy it too. That's it. It's just talk to people like yourself, talk to funny people, talk to interesting people, talk to people I agree with, talk to people I disagree with, have civil conversations with people. We disagree with things. It's good for you too. All I do is just do what I enjoy doing. If I could do this for free, I would still do it. Okay. I enjoy it. So you do this podcast. Yeah. You have no aspirations of this zero. The hugeest thing I've ever. I don't even have any aspirations for growth. I don't say, you know, when by this time next year, I'd like to have a.

52:17Nope. You just focus on what I'm doing. Yeah. I feel like everything else is a distraction. Like as long as you're making enough money, you know, Brian counts it something he wants. And I never forgot it. He said, and we were kids. We were in our 20s. He said the only amount of money you need is so that you can go to a restaurant and not care what things cost. Everything else is bullshit. If you got enough money, you can go to a restaurant. You don't worry. Just order a bottle of wine, order meat, order whatever you want to eat. You don't think about the price. He goes, that's real freedom. Because everything else, like all that other shit, you forget.

52:52That's all just becomes complicated. You don't need that. Which you just real freedom is the freedom to not worry about your bills. That's the real. Like I experienced that leap, that jump, when I got a development deal. So I was like, I guess I was 25, 26 maybe. 25? I got this development deal from Disney. And it was like $150 ,000. And I couldn't believe it. I had $150 ,000. This is nuts. And I felt like a physical weight lived over my shoulders. Because back then I was a road comic. You know, you do a gig on Thursday. It's $200 bucks. You do a gig here. It's $150. You know, you're scraping together enough money so that you could pay your bills and eat.

53:38And you were always worried about gigs. Always trying to fill my book. Always trying to call booking agents, drive to Connecticut, drive to Jersey. Where do I go to make some money? And it was all just trying to stay alive and trying to make it. Trying to become like a, like I really didn't think I was a legit professional comedian. I could all go away. And so I got that development deal and it was the nuttyest feeling in the world. It was like I felt lighter. Like I felt lighter. And then I was like, oh, that's the key. Like get the monkey off your back. Get the bill monkey off your back. And that's the real freedom.

54:14The real freedom is not being rich. You don't feel any different being really rich other than the stuff that you can do. But the way you feel in the day is the same way you feel if your bills are paid. That's what you want. All that other shit is like, the other thing I noticed when I moved to California was the first time I had a nice apartment. And I'll never forget this either. I was sitting in my apartment and it was a beautiful place in North Hollywood. I had a loft at a pool table in my apartment. I was like, this is amazing. How is this real? How is this mine? After a while, it just became my house.

54:47And then I realized like, oh, this is the same feeling I have when I'm home that I had in my shitty apartment in New York. It's the same feeling. It's like, oh, this is home. It's the same feeling. It's not better. It's not worth the amount of money that it costs. If you're renting a house, it's way over your budget and you're doing Uber just to try to pay your bills. It's not worth that. It's what's worth it is if it's comfortable. If you have a TV and you have a nice bed and you can cook your meals, you're good. That's what you need. That's all you need. Everything else is just like the amount of effort that you have to put in to make the amount of money to get all these other things.

55:28Leads you in this constant state of anxiety. I think people just get lost in this idea of constantly making more and getting more and chasing more. I just concentrate on what I do. That's all I concentrate on. I concentrate on work. I concentrate on comedy. I concentrate on UFC fights. I concentrate on podcasts. And I don't think about those other things. I don't think about the direction of my career at all. Well, that's a great way to look at things. Because the only thing you really have control of is... What you do. What you do. What you put out. Yeah. So you being a pioneer in the podcast world, right?

56:07You and Mark Merren, I feel like we're kind of... Adam Curry was the first. Adam Curry was the original. The MTV VJ. He's still got a podcast now. He's excellent. He's a good friend of mine. And he's the number one guy. He's the pod father. Okay. He's the pod father. He's three named it. They started it off together. Yeah. They started doing it years before I ever did it. And yeah, Mark had his a little bit before mine. Adam Corolla was the first. Because Adam did it off of radio. So Adam had that radio gig where he took over Howard Stern's slots when Howard Stern went over to serious. Remember that?

56:42So he had this morning show. And that morning show was doing real well until... Do you remember they used to have a talk radio station in LA? Before podcast. It was like Tom Likus was on there. And it was a bunch of good shows. Yeah. And that also made me think about doing podcasts too. I mean, I didn't know that a podcast was ever going to be a thing. But I was like, this is a talk radio station now. Like talk radio got so big, mostly because of Howard I think. But because there was a whole station where you could listen to the station. It was all talk radio all day long. There was a science guy on there late night.

57:19I forgot what the hell his name was. But yeah, you're right. There was like a station had all these kind of cool talk formats. And what I'm saying is for me, I'm not so versed on the history of podcasting. But for me, I just remember you as being one of the first guys... Yeah, we were the first. Okay. So now you're here. When you look at the landscape of podcasting from when you started to where it is now, do you go, wow, this is amazing and all these people are doing it. Could anybody do this? It feels like everybody has a podcast. I feel like there's a specific skill set to podcasting. Do you look at what you did early on and what you're doing now and go, wow, look at the growth?

58:07It's far. It's definitely a lot better. Yeah, I'm definitely better at talking to people. Yeah, it's a skill. You learn it. It makes you a better conversationalist in the real world for sure. It makes you more considerate. It's like comedy. Right? It makes like you weren't the podcaster you were... How long you been doing it? It's about 15 years. 15 years. Somewhere around there, closing in on 15 years? Yeah, so it took 15 years to get it to... Yeah. Obviously you've been successful for longer than... But it took a long time. It took a long time. And I think nowadays it's just... There's a amount of time you got to put into something in order for it to be a gem.

58:46Yes. But, you know, even just the entertainment landscape as I look at it, has entertainment changed? Where now we're looking at the phone and we're looking at somebody do something crazy at their house. There's a guy I've been watching this insane... His name is... He's catching eggs in his mouth, right? Do you see this guy insane... I forget the name of this... He's like insane shame. This guy... He catches eggs from how far away? 50 yards. They're throwing eggs in this guy's mouth. He's got the best mouth on the internet, right? Does he break the eggs or does he catch them and not have a break?

59:25Oh, they're like hard like... Hard boiled eggs. Or a meatball. Oh. This guy's chucking meatballs. And he's catching them in his mouth? 50 yards. That's a skill. So, I'm watching it and I can... Yeah, this is... This guy... Okay. The marshmallow combine.

59:47He's not catching all of them. No, he's catching all these... Oh, he's catching them and then spitting them out. Oh my god, that's insane. One of these guys throws a marshmallow 50 yards. Yeah, I think they're like ex... They're like ex football players or the guys that are throwing... That's a guy's doing routes. Catching marshmallows in his mouth. So, this is crazy. People who try to block them, that's crazy. He's catching the marshmallows. That's amazing. Okay, so... That's a skill. So, I'm watching this now. All right, this is entertainment now. Okay, he's got a million followers. He's saying Shane won.

1:00:23Yeah. He's diving off speedboats catching them in his mouth. I mean, look at this guy. Who would have ever thought that would be a thing? Oh, he dives into a ball. Has entertainment in your eyes change where... It's changing. Where this is now what people are watching instead of maybe a movie or a TV show. Well, it's definitely consuming a lot of your time. I mean, if you look at your screen time, like if you look at my screen time on my phone, on an average day, it'll be more than four hours. And how much of that is doom scrolling? A lot. So, that's entertainment. So, would I have been watching television during that time?

1:01:06No, probably not because you could take your entertainment with you now, which is even more distracting. Yeah, but you're not watching. You said you did an hour of Instagram. You're not watching like a movie or a documentary. Sometimes I am. Yeah. I mean, I spend a lot of time doing that too. But I do that in certain places. Like, I'll watch a documentary on an airplane. Or I'll watch something at home. But I generally don't take my phone. And I'm walking around a house watching documentaries. Because you would sit down and enjoy that. But this is something that I would probably, if I was on my phone from the kitchen to the bedroom, I'm watching a guy catch, catch, catch, yeah.

1:01:49My question to you is, if the internet or social media wasn't around, do you think that guy would be around? Do you think this wouldn't be doing that? But do you think this was existing 30 years ago where somebody was chucking marshmallows and catching them just for fun? Yeah. And we didn't see it. There's probably a guy in the neighborhood that could do it. And everybody would come over and watch Bob catch marshmallows with his face. Yeah. I'm sure. But it just never would have been the discipline that it is now. Where this guy's got like fucking guys blocking them. And he's juke and left and right.

1:02:22And catching marshmallows in the air with his mouth. It was pretty impressive stuff. So do you think the social media and internet spawns this type of stuff? 100%. Yeah, 100%. It is a new form. That's another thing you could say about podcasting too, because before podcasting, no one thought that the time when you're driving or the time when you're at the gym is time that you could be entertained by something other than music. Most of the time, unless you're listening to talk radio, of course. But now the podcast thing is like you could pause it any time. You could start any time. So if it's an interesting podcast and you got a two hour road trip, now you're occupied.

1:03:02Now the road trip's easy, because now you're driving, but now you're listening to some funny fucking shit and Joey Diaz is telling stories. And it's great. I mean, so this like this area of entertainment wasn't available. It wasn't being utilized before. And so what podcasts are really good for is it allows you to be entertained and occupied while you're doing other shit. I don't think most people who consume podcasts just sit there and listen or sit there and watch. I think a lot of times like maybe you're cooking and while you're cooking, you got your earbuds in, you're listening to a podcast or while you're driving or while you're on the fucking treadmill and you're bored, you get to listen to some interesting shit.

1:03:40And I get a lot of messages from my friends that will tell me, oh, I was at the gym and I was listening to Shane, it was hilarious. You guys are killing me. Like that kind of stuff is, or, hey, this is guy with that power plant, Egyptian pyramid guy, you believe that? What do you think about that? I was at the gym, it was kind of freaking me out. So it gives you this opportunity for entertainment that didn't exist before. That's not completely useless, right? Like the scrolling for stuff, the guy catching marshmallows in his mouth, I'm not getting anything out of that. It's fun. It's interesting.

1:04:11It's kind of useless. But podcasts are not. And you know, you do get to sit in on interesting conversations. You get to consider ideas that maybe you never considered before. So it wasn't available before. And because of phones, because everybody has, it's so easy to get a podcast. Everybody has access to them. Do you listen to podcasts? Yeah, all the time. Are you going to them for comedy or more informational podcasts? What's your forte? I listen to a lot of different podcasts. I listen to podcasts that are comedy podcasts. I listen to history podcasts. I listen to podcasts about science. I listen to podcasts about, you know, pretty much everything.

1:04:49Hunting podcast, you know, which are very valuable. Hunting podcast, because hunting is a, it seems easy. Like the idea seems easy to people. It's not. It's really hard. And there's a lot of things that people learn along the way on, in their journey of hunting, and they'll explain it to you. And so if you encounter that, I'll say, oh, Ravi Warren said, when you do this, be careful of that. Now that's in my head. You know, so it's just like a key, it's a way that you can accumulate information. Yeah. And I listen to this Huberman. Yeah, he's great. And half of the stuff goes over my head, you know, like there's a lot of things.

1:05:26He's hard. He's hard. You've got to make, you know, even when I do podcasts with him, I have to make notes. I make notes, then I ask him afterwards. And, you know, but he's very fact -based, and he's a great guy too. I have to ask you to talk about Huberman and you please. Do you ever have somebody come on the show where you're nervous to have him? Like, oh, man, this is... Oh, yeah, definitely. Like, who are you nervous to interview? Roger Penrose, Nobel Prize winner. He's just a brilliant mind and older, you know? So I'm like, how is this conversation going to go? How do I engage him? I don't want him to feel like he's wasting his time here.

1:06:05So I want to be prepared. I have good questions. Yeah, I don't know how much the experience those guys have on podcasts. Yeah. Or how much an experience they have at all with comedians. You know, I don't want to fuck around too much. I just want to just get the most out of him that I can get. Like, I just want to try to like massage his wheels and ask the right questions and be curious about all the right things and be informed enough to know what the right questions are. Yeah. And what I'm actually... And also, very fascinated by his research. So I really... It's like having an opportunity to talk to such a brilliant person.

1:06:38You know, like, he's done a lot of research in the Big Bang. He's got a very interesting thought about the Big Bang. That he doesn't think the Big Bang was the beginning of the universe. And that's something that a lot of physicists are considering now. It's very fascinating stuff. The idea that the universe is eternal or much older than we think it is. Yeah, that's crazy. I mean, he's got to be a chameleon. You got so many people different people coming in here. Yeah. He's got comedy to, you know, the doctors to what have you. And you got like a just. You do have to adjust. Yeah. To every different personality.

1:07:11It's just an art form. But it makes you more flexible as a person too. You know, conversations with all kinds of people. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. It's better. I like it. It's a lot better than the way I used to think before I started the podcast. You know, 2009, I was very close -minded. I was just doing it just for fun. I mean, I was open -minded, generally. But not like I am now. I wasn't aware of why I thought what I thought and what my biases are and why I think of things in certain ways. Instead of considering them from like a broader perspective. But when you do a podcast, you're kind of forced to do that.

1:07:43Because there's a lot of times when even if I agree with someone about something, I have to take the position of someone who's skeptical and ask them a question like, but what about this? Yeah. So instead of just confirming them and us existing in an echo chamber, I'll try to offer consideration like, okay, but why? Someone could think of it this way. Do you think of it this way ever? Have you ever tried to think of it this way? I just like see, you know, how their brain works. Because everybody's brain is, you know, they're different. You know, you have children. And one of the things you find out when you have children is, bro, right out of the box, they're different people.

1:08:19They are different people. It's fascinating. Yeah. Because you, you know, you meet a kid and he's four. He's like, look at that smart kid. He's like, what an interesting kid. But you don't, you didn't get to see that kid with his brother and his sister and all of them coming out of the same woman and going, this is all from the same father. Like, this is nuts. They're totally different things. They have different personalities, different likes, different, different strengths. You know, it's really interesting. Yeah, it's crazy to see. I mean, my daughter and my son, the differences between them.

1:08:48And you don't really notice it or don't really pay attention to it until you have kids of your own. And you actually see it go, oh, this one's outgoing, this one's shy. Yes, this one likes piano, this one likes tea ball. So it's like, even me and my sister, you have brothers and sisters? Yes, I mean, my sister and I, although very similar, also very different. And it's really crazy as a parent to, and also you want to, you know, you want to give them structure, you want to give them kind of the best things you grew up with. From your parents and then put them, you know, give them to your kids as well.

1:09:30But you also want to see them flourish in their own personality. So, you know, the parenting thing is, you know, I take it extremely serious. Like, I want to give, I want to be there for my kids. Yes. I want to, I don't want to work so much where, you know, like even, even coming to Austin, Texas for podcasts or going to Dallas for a show. Yeah, you have to think about that. Yeah, I would be like, bookie, just get it, just bookie. And now it's more like, hey, you know, are we coming to this run? Are you guys going to come to New York? Right, right. That helps a lot. Yeah, it helps me a lot. If I could take my family with me, you know, I take them with me a lot of times on Vegas, you have sea trips too.

1:10:16It's nice. Yeah, it's nice, especially now that the kids are getting older, that they could travel more. Also, Vegas is a fun place to do stuff. You know, there's other stuff we could do before the fights is start like, I don't know if you ever done escape rooms, you ever do escape rooms? No, escape rooms are fun. No, I'm claustrophobic. And this just happened to me recently. Don't get that tank then. Don't get that sensory deprivation tank. I don't know if I could do that. It happened to me on an airplane. Oh, no. Sitting at the window seat just overcame me. I get out of here. Oh, no. Ever since then, like I get, I have to have an aisle seat if I go to a theater and watch a show.

1:11:01I can't be confined. You just came out of nowhere? I didn't know where. I had an airplane. Wow. And I had to go in the back for two hours and hang out with the flight attendants and I was like standing on the rest of the time. Wow. So, did you tell them what was going on? Yeah, I said, listen. I'm freaking out. I'm crawling out of my skin. I'm sitting next to two people. I feel like I'm trapped. I can't get out. So, I'm very anxious now if I get out of an airplane. And here's one. Okay. Get out of an airplane. I hate to do this, but there's a family and the father's like, do you mind changing seats?

1:11:43So, my daughter could sit next to me. I said, where's the seat? It's the window seat. And I can't go over there because I'm claustrophobic. And of course, he was looking at me like I was making it up because I would have. Right. I mean, somebody told me that and I let this fucking ass over. Right. Let me sit with my daughter. Right. But it's so bad where I just, I can't sit at the window. Well, he could always ask somebody else. You know, he could just ask someone else. Yeah. But you were by yourself. I feel like I'm, I feel like I let him down. Yeah, I'm sure he did. Yeah. I'm never that guy.

1:12:18I'm always very cooperative. Whatever we need. I always move seats. Yeah. I'm always worried about other people freaking out. Like, there was a video that just went viral recently of some guy saying he was going to take the plane down. Dude, the guy stood up and then you see that guy, Jamie? I said, I feel like I'm not. It's a few lately. That's what I always worry about. I worry about someone freaking out. I worry about another person that you're going to have to deal with. I feel though if somebody's freaking out. I think he stabbed people. Didn't he stab someone? He had like a little knife on him and he stabbed a couple of people.

1:12:49Yeah, he was saying that he was going to take everybody out. Oh, God. I feel if you're on an airplane and that's happening, you would be one of these guys that would handle it. Right? Yeah, the problem with handling it is you're probably going to get sued. And you might even get arrested and depends on how much damage you do. You know, you could permanently damage someone. You could... people are very flippant about beating people up. But you could easily permanently damage someone. No, I believe me. I believe you can. I'm just saying you have that, I think that instinct. You know, like, what's the problem where I have more of an instinct of, is there a Joe Rogan on the plane?

1:13:33No. I was on a plane once the lady asked me if I would help her because these two guys were fighting. One guy got in first and he put his briefcase above this other guy's seat and then he sat down. And the guy who is right behind, he goes, no, no, that's my spot. That's my seat. That's spot over here. He goes, no, it's not. It's first come first serve. Put it somewhere else. It was open. I put it in there. And he goes, no, that belongs to my seat. And then they started getting like belligerent with each other. They started getting like to the point of like, oh my god, these kids kind of fight in first class.

1:14:08And so then this fucking lady who is the flight attendant, she came in and told them both, she was going to have the remove from the plane, sit down, shut up. And then she came to me and she goes, if anything goes down, you're going to help me, right? I was like, what do you want me to do? Because if I'm going to help you, it's going to get real messy. Are you going to say that you said it was okay for me to do that to that guy? I'm not going to play nice. If you're on a plane and you've got to take someone out, you have a very short amount of mood. It's got to be very violent. You've got to debilitate them.

1:14:46You've got to take them apart right there. You can't hope that you can hold on to them and then they relax. Then what you go back to your seat, then you've got to put them out. You've got to risk. You've got to risk. As you're talking to me, I feel like you're going through a bunch of different moves of what you could possibly do. It's got to be violent. If you've got a guy like that with a knife, you're not grabbing that guy. You're not just grabbing that guy and bringing him to the ground and holding him down. You're going to beat his fucking brains in. You're going to stop his body from moving.

1:15:25Otherwise, it's dangerous. You're in a position where you're being forced to use violence against some irrational, possibly schizophrenic. Who knows what the fuck's going on with this guy? It could kill everybody. Pastor Stabs fellow traveler with weapon of pens and rubber bands on Seattle to Vegas flight. What's going on? A fashion to handmade weapon before launching an unprovoked attack against a man seated across the aisle. Flying. Flying used to be his pen. He's so he developed, made a weapon out of his pens. He tied all his pens together and held onto them. Wow. I planned on attacking and killing him to defend and stay at Jesus Christ.

1:16:15Defendant felt the mafia had been chasing him the last few months. Yeah, so he just gets a frenic and you know they don't have fucking scans for that when they bring them in. During the interview, the defendant admitted to the FBI agent and said he was trying to stab CR in the eye to reach CR's brain to kill him. Okay. And he was protecting a seven year old son. The victim's wife was also hurt in the attack because she was shielding the couple seven year old son Jesus Christ man. So this guy just decided that this guy was in the mafia that was coming after him and he snaps and he wants to kill him.

1:16:48What's going on on airplanes? Why is there all this violence now? I think it's on airplanes. First of all, there's a lack of respect for authority that came with the whole defund the police thing. So there's like a people or more belligerent towards authority. So you have that. And then you have the general heightened level of anxiety of the population post COVID went up substantially. COVID fucked a lot of people's lives up. We got lucky. We were very fortunate. We make money. We were able to make money during the pandemic. We had enough money to be okay. A lot of people that's not the case. So so many people lost their businesses.

1:17:27So many people lost their livelihoods. So many people have a deep distrust for the government and the world now. And then there's this thing where people are being coddled for being mentally ill. Where you're you're you're almost like having a mental illness is something you can talk about. It makes you interesting. So I think people encourage mental illness. They encourage breakdowns. And they do it all the time in the real world. And so they think they could do it on fucking planes. And then you got genuinely mentally ill people who are just out of their fucking minds. You really shouldn't be out there in the world.

1:17:59And you know they think the mafia is after them. And they're making a fucking handmade shank while they're sitting in 16 A. You know the whole thing's nuts. And it's just like I think people are just much more on edge right now than they've ever been before. And I think a lot of it is a function of mainstream media. You're being fed every day. The worst shit that's happening in the world. Gaza. Ukraine. You know the fucking oceans boiling. Oh my god. What is happening? Putin's doing this and jeezing, paying is in control of that. And the fucking borders open. Ah, fentanyl. Ah. You know it's just like everyone's on edge.

1:18:38So you get all those people and you stick them in a fucking tube. And then you fly them through the air where there's no one that's really. There's no authority figure on that plane. There's these women, these poor women or men or whoever they are that's flight attendants. They don't have to fucking deal with these people. And most of them are just regular people. They're not, I mean, they do have those guys that hide undercover that are on planes occasionally. What do they call those guys? Yeah. Yeah, what do they call them? Air marshals. I think they stopped doing that. They stopped doing that?

1:19:10Oh great. Of course they did. All the security, right? They go to the airport. All the security to get on the plane. Once you're on the plane, no security. Yeah. They got security. I walk around whole foods making sure you don't steal an apple. Right. Yeah, you're a 35 ,000 feet up and what? Right. The flight attendant's gonna subdue a guy with, with pens, I mean. Exactly. And who's gonna get hurt along the way? What if he did stab that guy in the eye? You know, like Jesus Christ. You know, even Mike Tyson got in a fucking fight on a plane. Some guy kept fuck with him and he turned around and beat the shit out of the guy.

1:19:43And now Mike's getting sued. I saw that. Yeah. You think I should go to, they should ship that guy somewhere where it's terrible. You got to live here now. What's, what's, what's, what'd you take on this Tyson thing? I go back and forth. I don't generally like the idea of 58 year old men fighting. It seems crazy risky at this point in your life. You're definitely gonna be slower. You're definitely gonna be, you reflexes gonna be slower. You can't take shots as much. But I don't think that a 50 year old man today or a 58 year old man today is the same thing as what we thought of as a 50 or eight year old man.

1:20:22Well, we were kids because of hormone replacement. So because of nutrition, hormone replacement, science of recovery, and they've got Mike Tyson doing everything. He's doing all kinds of things. He's not a regular 57 year old guy. And then you see him hit the pads and he go, Jesus Christ, man. I mean, this is a terrifying human day. I mean, he's still fucking terrifying. He's still has the ability to deliver those punches. And if any one of those hits anybody, they're fucked. You're fucked. It's not like his punches are 30 % of what they used to be. They're like 80 to 90 % of what they used to be.

1:21:07Somewhere in that range, it's probably a little slower than he used to be. He used to be insanely fast. There's a video of Tyson hitting the bag as a 19 year old. And he's throwing these combinations like, he's 210 pounds, 215 pounds, throwing combinations like sugary Leonard. It's insane to watch. He was so fast. And that was a big factor in his success. He does not have that kind of speed anymore. But he's still fast. He's not slow. Joe, I mean, we're just watching a 58 year old man. Crazy. Now, if you 30, 40 years ago looked at a fit, I was watching the, we are the world documentary. And I'm looking at the people.

1:21:49Kenny Rogers is in that. And I'm going, I'm probably 60 years old here. And I look at, he's 47. 47 years old in the, we are the world. So the aging process has, I mean, there's no way 58 year. Yeah. It's guys 47. That's crazy. Younger than I am. That's crazy. He looks. He's 10 years old. He's 10 years younger than me in that video. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, the 58 year old man now. Look at young ass Billy Joel. Tina Turner. Billy Nelson look young. Damn. Hold William Nelson there. I know. He's a hundred. No. Holy shit. He's 90 now. I know how old he is. 52 years old in that video. Is he really? Yeah.

1:22:40It's amazing. So you're right. 58 years old is. It's very different. Different. What was four men when he came back? 45 when he won the title. He was 33. I think he was 33 or 36 when he was coming back. And everybody was mocking him. And then he beat Michael Moore when he was 45 years old. He's the oldest man to ever win the heavyweight title. And that was before, horror on the place. That's what I'm saying. I think Tyson is a 45 year old four man. No. Yeah. It's similar. I mean, four men wasn't as fast even back then as Tyson is now. Tyson's still faster. But he's smaller too. George is a very big man.

1:23:13George is enormous. He has hands that are like the size. His fists are like the sizes of cigar boxes. They're fucking giant fists, which is a big factor in punching power. You know, this was George at 45 years old. And Michael Moore, who was a sensational light heavyweight, was kind of undersized as a heavyweight. As a light heavyweight, he was a fucking assassin. But George caught him with a one two and put him out at 45 years. And a fight he was losing. Yeah. And Michael Moore was out boxing him. But here, here, even at 45, he don't look like that. Like a boom. He don't look like no Tyson at 58, though.

1:23:53No, no. He was much slower. But George was always kind of slow. He just has thunderous power. He was never like a real fast guy like Ali or any of those other guys. He was just thunderous, ridiculous power. George was just terrifying. And I don't know the ins and outs of boxing. But is this Logan Paul? Is he a legitimate boxer? A legitimate boxer. Yes. People mocked me when I was saying that before. But now I think people are coming around. And the way I look at it, I say, if this kid was not a YouTuber, if he wasn't some guy that you knew from the time he was like 16 years old on YouTube, and you just saw him box.

1:24:33And you saw him knock out former UFC champions. You saw him beat legitimate boxers or beat athletes and beat a bunch of MMA fighters. You'd go, this kid can fucking fight. He knows how to fight. Like it's not, it's not nothing he's doing looks wrong. He's not like sticking his head straight up in the air and winging punches with his eyes closed. He's fighting well. He looks good. And if he was just an up and coming boxer, there was this exciting, highly promotable, really good at selling fights, he'd be like, this kid's the future. He's really something special. And the fact that he's willing to fight Tyson, even if Tyson's 57, just the fact that he's willing to actually take a chance at Mike Tyson not being able to do what he used to do.

1:25:20Because that's what he's doing. The gamble is like there's not a fucking chance in hell that Jake Paul would survive against the Mike Tyson, the beat Marvis Frazier. You ever watched that fight? Yeah. That's my favorite Mike Tyson fight. Because that was Mike Tyson before he won the title. It was ABC Wild World of Sports. And Joe Frazier had been talking shit about Tyson that if he's in his prime, he'd beat Tyson. And so he had a son fight Tyson. And it was an execution. It was an execution. Is that the one in Atlantic City where it lasted one round? One round. Let's watch it because it's one of my favorite fights to watch Tyson.

1:25:57Because it's Tyson in his prime where he was fucking terrifying. He was so fast. And he would do angles and he was bobbing weave and you couldn't hit him. And he was just calm and at you. And he was young. He was 20 years old at the time. He couldn't be stopped. No one had the solution. And I submit that that Mike Tyson, the Mike Tyson, won the title against Trevor Burbick, the Mike Tyson, that beat Larry Holmes. I think that Mike Tyson is the best heavyweight of all time. I don't think anybody fucks with him. He just didn't maintain that form and he wound up losing the bus to Douglas. I look at fighters when they're in their absolute prime.

1:26:41What have you ever seen that was better than this? And with Mike Tyson, I've never seen anybody better. I've never seen any fighter, even Ali in his prime, even Ali when he was cashless Clay. I never saw anybody who looked like Mike Tyson in his prime. I think it just, you can't maintain the kind of focus that was required to be this guy. Look, I mean, Marvis looks fucking terrified and he should be. Because he kind of knows. I mean, Marvis was a good fighter. Marvis was a good fighter. But this is just a terrifying mismatch. Like, if I had, if I was a Vegas odds maker, I would put this at a million to one.

1:27:21I'm like, he has to break his leg. Like, he has to fall down and twist an ankle. Like, otherwise, he's, so Tyson was 20 and Frazier was 25. So do you think this is, this is the last we see of a guy like Tyson? Is there another Tyson out there or is it, they can always emerge. The combat sports always, so this is the beginning of the fight. Look, he's just moving forward. And Frazier's just trying to just bob and weave and find his openings. But Mike never gives you any time, man. He never gives you any time. He's always right in front of you. And he's just measuring you. And it's just a matter of time before he catches you.

1:27:56And here it is. Bing! Look at this. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Bro, he just puts him away. Just puts him away. It's an execution. It was just a matter of Mike Tyson closing the distance. This Mike Tyson as fast as he was, as hard as he hits, I maintain he's the greatest. Yeah, I know. The greatest heavyweight ever. Like that Mike Tyson, those fights were you wanted to see executions. You didn't think anybody was going to beat him. Everybody he fought looked like they were about to die when they were in that ring. I don't, I don't think we see this again, Joe. You never know. It can happen. Jake Paul's favorite.

1:28:34He's a favorite. Yeah. Well, he's 27 years old and he's a really good boxer. He's a very good boxer. Like he's a legitimate professional boxer. He fought Tommy Fury who's also a legitimate professional boxer, a real good one. He's, you know, he's Tyson Fury's younger brother and he lost a close decision. But it was a good fight, a real good fight against a good fighter. He can fight. Yeah. But that Mike Tyson from Marvis Frazier fought Jake Paul. Jake Paul's dead. He's dead. He's not going to make it. So you have to say how much has Mike Tyson lost from that 20 year old guy in the 37 years since then, which is, it'll be 38 by the time they fight.

1:29:16He'll have turned 58 by the time they actually fight. Yeah, but that's the best it gets, right? The best it gets. That's it gets. By 37 years, you got to feel like it's, you know, yeah, he's lost some. But he hasn't lost everything. He hasn't lost everything. Yeah. You see him hit those pads. Absolutely. He has not lost everything. But he's lost some, but coming from the best, he's now like maybe just normal, right? He's still not normal, but he's still like a professional heavyweight boxer. He's still terrifying. No, I'm not saying he's not, but I'm just saying even, even coming off the best, I still think he wins.

1:29:52You coming off, it's hard to say because you never bet against a 27 year old fighting a figure. I just, what I have in my brain and I can't get out is that, you know, I'm saying like it's also his mind. You know, like Mike Tyson's mind has switched over into war. Like he was doing this interview and someone said to him, he goes, he goes, you look like you're in your 20s. Like, what are you doing? He goes, I just see raw meat. Because I eat raw meat. He goes, you're eating raw meat. He goes, yeah, I'm eating raw meat. He goes because that's what I'm going to eat when I fight. I'm going to eat him.

1:30:29It's raw meat. Yeah, he's like, he's in this fucking mode. He's in that God of war mode and that he's still got that in him. And I'm telling you, if you keep giving that guy hormones and you keep giving that guy supplements and you keep, and he's constantly training his, look at this. What do you eat? Raw meat. Seriously, Mike. Do you eat raw meat? Are you swallowing it or remember, you used to spit that stuff out. I might have to eat it now because my opponent could be raw meat. That's right. Do you eat it like 20 years? Now, I saw the beginning of this interview where he had a shirt on, right?

1:31:05He was sweating so much he had to take the shirt off. And they just put the microphone on his shoulder. Yeah. Bro, he's in Savage mode right now. He's in Savage mode. If I was Jake Paul right now, I would be shitting my pants. Oh, bro. If I'm fighting this guy and he sees, eat more on me. I call the fucking thing off. It's all, it's all the experiences that he has had as a conqueror. You have to take those into consideration. When a man has smashed men before, just smashed men. Like when no one can stand in front of him, that is in his mind still. That's in there. There's a dark chamber in his mind that he can open up.

1:31:45Yeah. And I think he's got it open. The question is, can his body move along with it? But that part of his mind, like you're clearly seeing, he's terrifying when he's in the zone. I changed the shape of the table because of him. This table was, we had the table that was this size at the old studio and the new studio. I was like, maybe we'll make the table smaller. It'll be more intimate. It'll be closer to the guest. And so we had Mike Tyson in when he was 300 pounds. And he was just eating and having fun and smoke and weed. He goes, I don't even work out. He goes, if I work out, I'll excite myself.

1:32:23I'll excite my ego. And then I'll, I don't like that person. So he just decided that he was just going to be chill Mike Tyson. And then he got this offer to fight Roy Jones Jr. So he gets in insane shape. And the next time I see him, the second podcast we do, Mike now weighs 230 pounds. And he's got these muscles in his forearms. So he's sitting there. And he's a different human. He's so intense that I was like, if this table was closer to him, I would be nervous. Like I wouldn't be able to do my best job as a podcaster. I literally, this, the reason why this table is this width is to the second podcast I do with Mike Tyson.

1:33:02Even Jamie, Jamie, when Mike left, Jamie's like, that's a different person. It's a totally different person, right? I was nervous the whole time. I was so glad I was close to the door. I was so intense. He was so intense. And that was a fight with Roy Jones Jr. Where he just decided to have one more legends fight. And he got, like, look at him. Dude, he's just, what the hell? What do you need to get an exciting? You know, seriously, Mike. Oh, you got both things playing at the same time. Hold on a second. You had animosity towards so you could finally get your hands on them. Hey, what does it mean when fighting gets you, gets you wrecked?

1:33:49What does that mean? It's a good question. Gee. It means you're getting excited. Yeah. So that, that's going through your mind right now. Well, that's how I get one. I was a kid and I, you know, sometimes I get the twinkle. The twinkle. Yeah. Well, that's what I'm saying. It's like you reached a state as a human being, as a champion, as a ferocious fighter. You reached a state of, of, of ability and of accomplishment. Very few humans were, I don't know if you can hear him breathing. He's breathing. It's like, it's like a line. It's like running when you're hitting the bag, when that heart's beating again.

1:34:24Because I'm firing them up right now. You're Mike, mother fucking Tyson. So when you're doing all this shit again, you're still Mike Tyson. Those thoughts have got to be burning inside you again. It's got to be pretty wild. I don't know. It's, um, it's wild. But I believe it's, um, it's rightfully so to be that way. And I just know how to, um, I don't think I'm massive. I just wanted to deal with it. I don't let it overwhelm me. No. Well, of course, no. It's a strange conversation to have because he was like so focused and so intense. You know, it was, it was almost hard pulling conversation out of him.

1:35:03And at any time, did you feel afraid? I'm always afraid of the brother guy. Kevin Hart said it best. He goes, it's like being in a room with a lion. Like, even if the lion is like, Jamie Foxx is a little joke. It's like some of the people that loosen the room. They don't know who's it is.

1:35:21And that James got to play him in a movie, which is got to be terrifying. Like, don't piss that guy off. I never talk like that. Oh, sorry. Sorry, sir. I'm, I'm curious. I'm going to watch the fight. We're all going to watch the fight. Yeah. I'm going to watch it. I mean, it's brilliant move by Jake because like if he was going to fight anybody else, people would watch, but with the same amount of people watched. No, no. This is the one. And this is the one where the old heads are all sitting around like going, ah, well, back in wait until he gets a hold of Mike Tyson. Boy, he's going to regret that.

1:35:53All the old guys are like pulling for him like, come on, Mike. Come on. One more. You got one more in you. Well, I think we see a different Mike Tyson than we did when he fought Roy Jones, right? I think the Roy Jones fight they made an agreement, not the punch in the head. I'm pretty sure because I watched that fight carefully many times. And it never looked like he was targeting Roy's head, which makes sense why Roy agreed to the fight. You know, I think they probably made an agreement. It would be like a real boxing match, but just don't knock me out. Because he Roy is a smaller person, much smaller.

1:36:28Roy was the, at his very best, he was 168 pounds. And then when he was weighing 175 pounds, he, you know, he didn't even have to cut weight. He was playing, he Roy famously played a basketball game, a full basketball game, the day of his fight. Wow. Played a basketball game and then went and boxed the face off of somebody for 12 rounds. Wow. You know, that's how good Roy was in his prime, but Roy was 168 pounds in his prime. He wasn't Mike Tyson's size. Mike Tyson's fucking enormous. He's just a different mass. He's the width, the density. It's terrifying. And if they're older guys, I could imagine them making an agreement.

1:37:10Because if you watch the highlights, Mike never punches them in the face. And even if they do punch each other in the face, it seems like it's just like jabs and small punches. It does, you know, almost like sparring shots. It's not like anybody's like really like winding up, you know. But really like throwing everything at it. This fight doesn't have that stipulation. No, I do not believe that's the case. I think this fight is going to be a real full bore 100 % fight. It's not even an exhibition. It counts on their professional record. So it's a professional fight. Okay. Yeah. Is it eight rounds?

1:37:43Eight, two minutes rounds, the other two. Yeah. They made it two minute rounds because Tyson's old. And they were going to do 16 ounce gloves with a down to 14, I believe. Is that the case? I think they're 14 ounce gloves, which is not much bigger than a regular glove. You know, regular gloves 10 ounces in the heavyweight division, six ounces and lighter divisions. I think they use eight in some divisions too. But most like big guys use 10 ounce gloves. Yeah, it's, it's, again, talk about the change of entertainment, even in the boxing world. We interviewed Dana White on our podcast and he's got them sure you're aware of the slapping thing, right?

1:38:25Yeah. Yeah. Now, is that just, if I slapped you right now, right? Right. Is that different than taking a punch? Not at all. No. It's terrible for you. Yeah, you did. They're basically agreeing to brain damage. They're agreeing to let each other get slapped in the head. Because you have to get slapped. You have to stand there and get slapped. And the only thing they could save you is if your slap is so good. And you win the coin toss or whatever the fuck they do decide who slaps who first. Yeah. You slap that guy unconscious and then it's over. And that happens. Guys get slapped. I mean, it's, you're literally taking a full on blow to the face.

1:39:08Your hand can hit pretty hard if you just think, think of that. Yeah. Try doing that with your knuckles. It's hard to do. It hurts. Yeah, yeah. It doesn't hurt at all when you do that. You can slam. So you could really fucking slap someone. You know, guys have knock guys out slapping them many times. It's not hard to knock. You could KO someone. Boss Routin was one of the, you know, all time greats in MMA. And he started his fighting in an organization called pancrease. And pancrease in Japan, this is the early days. Like as the UFC was just emerging, they started doing fights with no gloves on.

1:39:46But they said instead of punching, you could only slap. So what boss Routin, he's got very flexible wrists. So he would pull his hands way back like this. And he was basically just punching you with the palm of his hands. So he wasn't throwing them like you were thinking like a bitch slap. Yeah. He was throwing punches with his palms. He was uppercutting guys and knocking them unconscious with his palms. So that is what you're agreeing to. When you're standing in front of a guy and you're letting a guy walk you in the head. You're agreeing to getting, you could easily get KOed, easily get your job broken.

1:40:21Easily get your eye socket shattered. Are these X -boss? This is boss. So look at how you see how he dropped that guy with that palm strike. With the way he throws it, it's like a punch. Boss was a fucking animal. He was an animal, like terrifying human being. Great guy. But man, in his prime, he was just destroying people. He was one of the first high level strikers that made his way into mixed martial arts. And he eventually became the UFC heavyweight champion. What was the kickboxer from Holland, the motherland? Of kickboxing? Oh yeah. Some of the all -time greats came out Holland. Yeah. For whatever strange reason, it was like, it was a background of Kyokushin.

1:41:09And a lot of them got into kickboxing and Muay Thai. And there was a guy named Ramon Decker. So he's like, to this day, one of the most legendary Muay Thai fighters of all times is dude who came out of Holland and went over to Thailand and just fucked everybody up. You ever seen, you ever heard of Ramon Decker? Show Ramon Decker's highlight reel. He was like, a mini kickboxing Mike Tyson. Yeah. It was a monster. Because a lot of the guys that went over to Thailand, they were bigger than the ties. But Ramon Decker's was the same size as the ties. But he was just fucking ferocious. Look at this motherfucker.

1:41:45Bro, he kicked guys so hard that he shattered his ankle so many times that he had to get it fused. Jesus. And his doctor was like, you have to stop fighting or you know, you're going to lose your foot. And he was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever. Just fucking bolt this thing down so I can get back at it again. I mean, his highlight reel is just fucking terrifying. It's just him bawling people. But these kicks, right? I mean, doesn't it hurt the kicker as much as it does? No, not as much, but it definitely hurts. I mean, especially if you hit the instep on like an elbow or something like that. Yeah.

1:42:24But shins, shins are pretty good at tolerating pain. Joe, come on. I mean, I hit my shin on my bed frame. I'm down. Yeah. That's just, well, you get conditioned, you know, you get conditioned to the point where you can, you can bang your shin against things. Don't these guys train on trees? Yeah, they train up banana trees. Fuck, man. In Thailand, they'll do the kick banana trees. But banana trees are pretty soft. You can kick a banana tree. And they give out the give a little bit when you hit them. It's not like a regular tree. I've never seen a banana tree. I've been around a banana tree in Thailand.

1:43:03I kicked one just to see what it was like because I've seen a lot of videos of these guys kicking them. Yeah, it's not the worst thing to kick. It gives a little bit. So there it is. See, because it gives. Oh, yeah. See how it gives when he's kicking it? It's flexible. Like, you could actually train on a banana tree. It's not a bad thing to train on. It's good to be on it right in half. Yeah, see, it moves. It's really not that much different than a heavy bag. It just looks crazy because you're like, my god, he's kicking a tree. Yeah, yeah. But there's heavy bag. Like, we have a heavy bag out there in the gym.

1:43:33That's my friend Kevin Ros gave it to me. And it's filled with sand. And that's just to condition your shins. That one's horrible. That one you kick. It's like, oh, what are you talking about? Usually it's cushioning. Like, there's foam. And then it depends on what the stuffing is. Sometimes they stuff it with rags and cloth and stuff like that. And the whole idea is it's really packed down tight. And it's heavy. So it's like 130, 150 pounds. And it's long. And you could do leg kicks on it. But the sand one is just hard as a rock. It's just thud, thud. And you do that just to condition your shins.

1:44:07That's the one you practice on just to condition yourself. Yeah, I wish I could do some of this stuff with the... I've always wanted to get into a fighting just for self -defense. Right. But I have detached my biceps. So I have holes in my arm. I have no biceps. Well, I have a bicep. But just the short one is gone. How did it detach? Poke up. And no bicep. What? Really? Yeah. Nothing happened? There's no trauma that I could pinpoint that this happened. Now, I have kids. I was putting them in the car. Maybe a kelp from them. No, it didn't feel nothing. Really? Looking in the mirror one day and I know I brought my wife over.

1:44:56And I go, is there a hole in my arm? It's not. No, I show you. Let me see. Oh, wow. I've seen guys have that before. My friend Matt Sarah has that. He is like his bicep. When he makes a bicep, like half of it is missing. Okay. It curled up on one side. Matt Sarah is a fighter? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a comedian. And I got a hole in my arm. That is a lot. I'm a bad guy. But you have most of your bicep. Yeah, but that's an unisside too. Same side? Did you go to a doctor? Yeah, he says nothing you could do about it. But he said it's detached. What's going on? And you don't know why. No, I don't know why.

1:45:41Both here. So then I'm thinking, do I got some weird Mediterranean type disease where like, shit starts detaching? My dad's got it. Really? But he put a luggage in the overhead compartment. That's what his snap. His bigger bicep is living in his elbow. Oh, Jesus. And you still get that fixed if you do it right away. Right away. I didn't catch it right away. So it seems like with you there was no trauma. No. Which doesn't even make any sense. No sense. Everybody that I know that's done that, like it's usually boxing or jujitsu or lifting weights or something like that. It's painful. It's fuck instantly.

1:46:18There's a video of a guy doing curls. And as he's doing curls, his biceps snaps and curls up and you see like, ah! Yeah. It's horrible. It's horrible. And I've heard the same thing. It's painful. But I have no pain, no nothing. Well, it doesn't seem like it affects your range of motion either. No, there's no, you can do everything. There's no problem. But now I'm thinking, can I even work out the bicep? Because I'm afraid that one's going to snap. No, you should. Because if you don't, the bicep is not going to be strong enough to do the extra work that's required missing that other one. Yeah, definitely.

1:46:52You're fine. You're fine. Yeah, you could do everything. You just got to get strong. Just strengthen all the surrounding tissue. You're fine.

1:47:03What's the ads of a guy who doesn't really do any strenuous, no tennis, no nothing like that to lose both of his biceps, right? By 50. Right. And now I got it in my head that... Everything's going to fall apart. Everything's going to snap. Yeah, but you haven't lost your biceps. Your biceps are there. It's like whatever that other thing is that attaches. That's not there anymore. But I don't think you need that. I think you're fine. I wouldn't worry about it. I legitimately. I wouldn't worry about it. I would just start working out. I would just like get really into like strengthening everything around it.

1:47:39That's what I have to do. Especially since you can't fix it. Can't fix it. But Matt does everything. I mean, Matt is a black belt in Jiu -Jitsu. And his biceps weigh worse in years. His is pulled all the way up to the top. So like at the bottom, like when you make a muscle like this part, he doesn't have this part. Yeah. It just flat. Yeah, it's meant to be. And it's like a little bit up here. I've seen a bunch of people who have that. Okay. That's a common thing. Yeah. I'm just shocked that it happened so early in life. It doesn't make sense that it didn't hurt at all. That seems weird. Strange.

1:48:10But you seem like you have full range of motion. Yeah, not at all. I'm a little bit more active. No way, man. I used to love biceps. I'm a palliant. They're still there. I used to, but listen. Along in a mirror, I put the shirt off. You don't like it? No. You used to love doing biceps like that. Oh, you used to love to look stereo -self? Yeah, doing biceps. That was my favorite exercise. That's funny. And oh, yeah. I literally never do that. And never do biceps. Ever. Well, the growing up, that's what we always just do. 20s, 30s, 40s. You doing it? Yeah. Bice. And curls for the girls. Curls for the girls, man.

1:48:54Right. And now I got holes in my arm. I don't think it'll affect you. I bet you can still do bicep curls. No problem at all. I bet your biceps will grow. I don't think it's a problem. I don't think it's a problem. Okay. I don't know what happened. I don't understand it. It seems weird. And maybe it felt like it happened when you were way younger. You just didn't notice it. Maybe you got older. Your body changed. No. Nothing? No, it's just a dramatic aesthetic. I mean, aesthetically you would have... So you just noticed it one day? One day doing my hair. Weird. Drop my arms. Looked in the mirror.

1:49:27I thought it was a shadow from the things. Oh, yeah. It must be a shadow. But no, it's a... There's a hole. So a hole. And I didn't catch it in time. And now I'm walking around with no biceps. That's so strong. But you do have biceps. Well, yeah. I miss in one of those things. One of the places. I don't think it's a big deal. You didn't need it. Obviously. I wasn't using it. Fell apart. It's like an appendicitis. Yeah, it's like this guy isn't even fucking interested in this muscle. It's just quit audio. Do you have a trainer? Yeah. So how often do you work out? I do about three or four days with a trainer.

1:49:59And I do two days Pilates. Oh, nice. Which has helped my sciatica. So I started three months ago. I have a sciatica two and a half years. Fecting everything, including my comedy. Because I'm physical. I like to move. But the pain was relentless. And I'm like, I got it. I didn't want to get the surgery. Was it a disac to me? They're trying to get you to do? It was spinal. I don't know what exactly. Because I don't listen. And I don't know anything. As far as like the research. Right. The guy told me what it was. I'm like, okay. But when you're out the other way. Right. But stenosis of the spine.

1:50:37That's what is happening and whatnot. So, and some L3, L4, L4. You know what you need to get? It'll help you a lot. A lot. There's a thing called the DEX. It's one of those teeter products. Where you hook your legs to this thing. And you lean your body forward. You know those ones you hang by your ankles? Those are good. Those are really good. They're great for a lot of reasons. But this one is my favorite for low back decompression. This thing right here. We have one out there. I'll show it to you. It's called the DEX DEX II. It's an inversion and core training system. But the thing that it does the best is when your legs are supported.

1:51:18You know, you can do like back extensions and stuff on it. But I really don't use it for that. Mostly what I use it for is just decompressing. So, I get on it. And all your weight is now on your thighs. And all the weight of your upper body from your hips down is just decompressing. And you feel it pop. Like I'll lie in it and it goes pop pop pop pop. Like I'll feel it decompressed. It's amazing. I love it. And it also you can do back extensions when you're on that same incline. And it's really good for strengthening those muscles. And also sometimes that helps me loosen them up even more. I'll do a set of back extensions on it.

1:51:54And I'll really like deeply relax and let it pop. And yeah, decompression of the back and spine is very important. That's why yoga is so good. Because you're stretching and decompressing things. And if you're tight and then everything's tight as you get older, like you just keep shrinking. You know, that's what happens to old people. They're fucking the space in between their spine goes away. And then they get this hunch and then they're immobile. You don't want to be immobile. No, no. And I felt like there's this lagre. Pilates have definitely changed my life. Pilates is amazing. They're very, very good for that.

1:52:26Yoga, very, very, very good for that. Anything you're using your whole body like that, you know. And it's for a lot of people, there's a lot of contributing factors that lead to sciatica. There's tightness of the hamstrings. There's tightness of the upper quads that also affects your lower back and compresses everything. Like when I have back pain, one of the things that I do is I sit on my hand. I feel the heels and I lean all the way back. So with my legs bent and it really stretches out my upper legs, my thighs, my quads. And when I do that, I feel it in my lower back. Like I feel my lower back relaxing.

1:53:02Like I feel stretching out. And then I'll do a bunch of other different exercises like that. But that's what keeps me from having back pain. Yeah, the importance of stretching, I've found is... Huge, huge. It's huge. And everybody's lazy. Nobody wants to stretch. Even me, even when I get done with the workout, I'm like, I could stretch, I should stretch. I want to go eat. And sometimes I'll just go eat. But most of the time I stretch. And when I do, I always feel way better. Like before a big show, I always stretch. Always. In the back? Yeah. I just lay down on the floor and start stretching. And when I do that, I was like, everything just feels better.

1:53:38Yeah. Because the physical tension that you carry in your body, if you can mitigate some of that, you just feel a little looser. You get out there, you feel loose. It's just age really crept up on me. It's a mother fucker. Really crept up on me. It's mother fucker. So I'm doing all I can to kind of combat that. How old do you now? When you see guys that are 50 that don't take care of themselves, though, you see the difference? That's scary. Yeah. That's scary when a guy's never taking care of himself, and then he's 50. And you really, like, you're in a state of total, I could pull your arm apart.

1:54:10I could just grab your arm and pull it away from your shoulder socket. There's nothing keeping that thing in there. Like you just, you made out of jello. Yeah. Your body doesn't have any need to be strong, because it ever gets used. So your body just deteriorates. And this like sunken lump. And now you're in pain all the time. And now you got problems all the time. Now you don't need to fucking energy to do things that you want to do. For me, the whole thing is mitigating mental illness, like mitigating anxiety and stress and anger. Get that out, clean your mind out, and then make sure you have energy.

1:54:46The only way you can get things done is if you have fucking energy, especially like writing. Like, if you don't consider writing a physical health thing. But if you're tired, you're not going to write as good. You're not going to have the enthusiasm. You're not going to have the energy. It's like for everything you need energy. And there's only one way to get that. You have to have a healthy body. You have to. It's like a part of the job. It should be a part of the job. I tried to tell it to fact comedians. I'm like, I know you're great. But look, we lost Patrice when he was in his 40s. If Patrice was alive today, he'd have the number one podcast in the world.

1:55:17Patrice was alive today. He'd be selling out arenas. We lost him because he just didn't take care of himself. That's it. That's the only reason why. No, it's super important. Not only for the comedy, but even looking at my kids now, I'm an older father. So I want to do those things with my kids. Yeah. Whether it be skiing. Right. I had fun. They went skiing. We went skiing in December. And my wife loves skiing. And of course, I'm at the fucking bottom of the hill waiting for the... I'm pitch... You know what I've become? Or was becoming? Say hi to daddy. You know, like we go to Disney, like, they're on the rides.

1:55:57You don't do the rides? Oh, fuck no. I never do rides. I throw up in my lap of the booties rides. Really? Yeah. All of them? Yeah. No space mountain. No. I don't know. It sounds amazing. So fun. I got a week's time, like, Joe. I barely take the pay -off on a flight. Let alone drop in... Custrophobia? Yeah. I'm a mess, bro. Custrophobia. No biceps and... At fear of rollercoaster. It needs to be a lot worse. No, I'm fine. I'm fine. I complain for the sake of comedy. I know. But I'm blessed. Yeah. You're back out here in August? What are you doing in August? I'm doing the Moody Center. Nice. Moody Center.

1:56:40That's a great venue. I've never been there. I heard it's brand new. But it's... Yeah, it's amazing. It's an amazing venue. Yeah. This is a great town for comedy right now. There's a lot of big -time comedy fans here now. Yeah. Well, I mean, your club, which I'm dying to do, and I'm sorry that I didn't get out here to do it, but I definitely want to do the ship. But here, great things about it. Yeah, next time you're in town, come by. Hang out with us for a couple of days. Yeah. You do shows Tuesday, Wednesdays, and Thursdays or my shows, and this shows seven nights a week? Great. Yeah, I want to make it more of a meal next time I come out.

1:57:16Yeah. This is kind of an in and out thing. I want to utilize the... I want to see if I get in the tank. Yeah? Yeah. Or you could do it. No, maybe... You want to take it inevitable first? You want to really do it? Yeah. Yeah. No. You know what? Baby steps. I want to do an edible, but I want to... I know some people come in here and go, Hey, you got an edible, like... Don't do that. I can't do anything unless they do a test run at home. Right, right, right. So, whatever you got here, what is this? Rogi? What is this? Oh, these are just nicotine. Oh, that's nicotine. What's the good... I'm looking to get into a maybe an edible every now and then.

1:57:57Well, California is the perfect place to do it because you can get those nice 10 milligram adipals. 10 milligram. You can eat the whole thing. We try five. Just try five. Eat half of it. And what is this... Is this the type of thing where you're like, Oh, hey, this is great. Or is this... Maybe... Or deep paranoia. Depends on how much you take. I don't need to be paranoid. Go down. Dark, dark, dark. I don't do dark. I think it's... I think about the solar flare. Do you hear about the solar flare? There's solar flare that is supposed to reach us on the 10th and the 11th to some mass coronal ejections that could play havoc with our communication systems or satellites.

1:58:37Could you shut down the power grid if one's big enough? You ever heard about this? Don't come on like I mean. I barely hear about this. A friend of mine who's actually a legitimate scientist actually warned me about this. He said it's really strange that we're not being told about the potential impact of this. Earth prepares for solar storm impact from 3CMEs this weekend. Solar activity has reached high levels in the past 24 to 36 hours with background flux at or near M10. I don't know what that means. The most significant developments from the Sun include the growth and merging of regions 3664 and 3668 as well as the production of numerous M -class solar flares and 2X -class solar flares from what CME is coronal mass ejection that are expected to arrive at Earth this weekend.

1:59:32Joe, no, keep this up there. If this was me and you sent me this article, so read this about solar flares. You know, would it turn me off right from just visually? 3664, I see that in a paragraph. I ain't reading it. Just the numbers alone. The regions. See, I'm not opposite. Whatever you read just now, didn't even register in my head, couldn't even comprehend it. Did you get any of that? For me, what I got is a deep respect for these people that are not just watching the Sun, but they've made regions of the Sun. So they can refer to these specific regions where the solar activity is taking. Yeah.

2:00:14So I was saying, the 10th and the 11th, that's what my friend was telling me. X2 .23b flare. He was actually concerned that his wife is going to be out of town while this was happening. He's like, you should have food, and you should be prepared. Yeah. Despite this, go back up. The region continued to produce optical flares, radio bursts, and an isolated emclin. That's one of the craziest things about the Sun. The Sun is not static. It's like, it's like, it's all over the place. It's got these giant ejections that happen and that could cook our satellites. And in the past, before we had the kind of infrastructure that we have today, there was a big mass ejection, I think, that they recorded in the 1800s that took out communications for whatever they had back then.

2:01:05You know, I like the Sun, Joe. You like a tan? Beautiful tan. Are you a beach guy? Do you like going on beach on vacations? I love the beach. A little margarita, sit there. Margarita, a little Mexico beach flying. Sit down, and my kids build a little sand castle. Go on the water. Mexico makes me nervous. Do you hear about the surfers that just got killed in Mexico? Why do you got to ruin a job? They found them in a well. Shot in the head in the well. They stole their car. Shot them in the head and threw them down a well. I'm at the beach with a margarita. And you're in a well with three gun wounds that I had.

2:01:45Why do you got to ruin the visual for a good job? Come on. I mean, I don't know what happened to these guys, but shit, go. Yeah, you should go sideways. You can go sideways when you're in Mexico. No, I know. Mexico's surfered death, man charged, confessed to girlfriend. Oh, wow. Kill these two dudes over a car. She's crazy. Their bodies are found dumped in a cliffside well. Six days after they disappeared, each with a gunshot to the head. It's terrible. There's shit that could... Yeah, there was a fourth body that had been there longer. It was unconnected to the case. All right, there goes the spot.

2:02:17There goes the family trip to Mexico. That's their spot. Most of the time people go to Mexico. It's no worries at all. Yeah, no. I went down there once and I was worried. And I saw Holly Barry there. I'm like, oh, she's here. No, I'm not worried. Yeah. I feel like she's going to Holly Barry anywhere. It's like it's okay. She's going to be fun. Yeah.

2:02:38I know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. It's just like it's controlled by the cartels. I mean, the country's essentially controlled by the illegal drug market. So you would not go to Mexico? I've gone to Mexico. I love Mexico. But it is what it is. Yeah. You know, it's a different kind of sketchy. And they're generally protective of tourists. Generally, you know, they don't want to come down. They don't want to come down. And then the government will come down on them if someone kills tourists. It could happen on Wilshire Boulevard. It will happen on Wilshire Boulevard in Los Angeles.

2:03:14That's why I don't live in Los Angeles. I know. I mean, it could happen anywhere really. Anywhere now. But Los Angeles is a higher likelihood of shit going sideways. No, I agree. What's it like? What's it like? You enjoying it? There's been many conversations over dinner. What are we doing here? Yeah. I'm sure you went through that prior to that. Well, I know you looked out here for a little bit. I looked out for a little bit. Now's a good time to look. Yeah. Now there's a lot of great houses that are available. A lot of money came here. A lot of people came here. A lot of building got done here.

2:03:43There's a lot of, I have a great real estate agent if you're still interested. The growth is exponential. Yeah. The quality of life is fantastic. It's much better. Okay. But I got off the airplane. The heat. And I was sweating right out of the gate. Can't take that. Yeah. I don't know. It's... I don't like heat. I don't like heat. You don't like heat. I don't like humidity. So that is a big, big factor of moving anywhere, whether it be Florida, Texas. Los Angeles gets pretty fucking hot, dude. It does get hot. I'm not saying it doesn't. I'm just saying this is like a different kind of heat for me.

2:04:23It's a wet heat. It's on some comfortable. Yeah, it's better for your skin though. But maybe. Yeah. And we've often tossed around to these Los Angeles de place for us. But with me is I got a family there. I got my mother there, my sister's there. What about San Diego? No. No, no, no, no, big San Diego. Really? No. I love it down there. I love Florida. Florida is great too. I thought about there. I have a family in Naples. Hot as fuck. Hot as fuck though. Yeah. Hotter than here. Yeah, I feel like if you go to one of these places that... People are dumb or two. They're dumb or in Florida? Yeah, they're dumb.

2:04:58Generally. There's some brilliant people in Florida that don't get me wrong. But I would... If you know... If you had to do like a statewide IQ test, it might be disturbing. Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. A lot of people escaped to go to Florida. Yeah. For as a place where people ran from their past. I just feel like if I go to Florida, I'm running from paying an exorbitant amount of money in taxes. That's true too. And quality of life might be better. It would be better. And that's Texas too. Texas doesn't have state taxes either. California has 14 % which is insane. It's insane. It's insane. I took...

2:05:37So high. This morning I took a beautiful walk along your... What is this? A river you guys running through the city? Ladybird Lake. Ladybird Lake, right? Right about the bats. Yeah. And at a night. And just let people... Hello. It's night. It's a nice vibe out there. I'm not gonna lie. But... I'm rooted over there. So I was rooted too. Yeah, I know. Yeah, but it's not worth it. It's not worth it to be rooted in a place that sucks. I understand. It's just the conflict of feeling like, why am I still here? I don't have any of that here. I had that feeling for a while in LA. Even before the pandemic, like do I really need to be here.

2:06:15But I just didn't know another way to do it. It was like there's no other way to do everything that I want to do. Podcast comedy. I mean LA. This is like, I guess, is where I live. From the time you started to think about moving to the time you moved, what was that year's vice? I've been thinking about it for a long time. I lived in Colorado for a little bit in 2009. But I had been thinking about it for a while, but it didn't seem possible. But then when the pandemic hit, it was like, okay, the whole world is different now. Now you gotta move. Like you gotta get the fuck out of here. Because LA was going sideways.

2:06:51And I'm of the opinion that once things start going bad, it takes a long time. Especially in a Democrat controlled state. Takes a long time for things to turn around. If they turn around at all. And everybody has this idea of, oh, this is LA. LA is like that. No, it's not like that anymore. They're burning cop cars in the military, looting businesses. They're letting people do it. They're smashing grabs. They're just telling you, you can't shop after 6 p .m. This is madness. We gotta get the fuck out of here. That was my take. My take was like, this is not the same LA anymore. You don't stay in your house while it's on fire.

2:07:26Just because like, phew, but it's my house. No, it's on fire. You gotta get out. No. So that was my take. And the family was on board? Yeah, they loved it. Well, the kids were young enough. You know, my youngest were 10 and 12 when we came here. And we got them to my real estate agent. She's brilliant. She took us to the lake. And the girls were on a boat. We're all hanging out. We were jumping in the water together. And swimming. And people were listening to the fucking Leonard Scanner. And people were singing and drinking. And it was like, everybody's having fun. And there was no masks. Whereas in LA, everyone was like terrified and locked down.

2:08:02And so this was in May of 2020. We were only, it was only two months into the pandemic. And I was already trying to get out. And then by August, I was already here. It was like, fuck you guys. And then by October, Dave and I started doing shows. We started doing shows at Stubbs. And then November, we started doing indoor shows here. Like Jesus Christ. And then it was crazy. And then the influx. Everybody started moving here. Scora moved here. Tony Hinchcliff moved here. Brian Simpson moved here. Derek Poston. Asana Maud. They moved here. William Montgomery moved here. Ron White was already here.

2:08:39Duncan Trussle moved here. Tim Dillon moved here. It's just started getting crazy. Joe DeRosa just got a spot here. Joey's coming next week. It's just, it's been amazing. But it had, all those things had to like take place in the exact right order. It's almost like, you had to hit every green light on the road. And just all the things had to happen the right way to be able to happen. Yeah. To make what actually took place. It's kind of crazy. It is not that, that this place, I mean, I just looked around the city. I mean, the amount of buildings that are going up is, it's crazy. The only thing I, I do see, do you think the infrastructure of the city can withstand the amount of people here, like the roads and the traffic and...

2:09:21They're doing work on that. They're expanding things. There's going to be growing pains for sure. There's obviously a lot more traffic now than there was 10 years ago. But there was, it had always been growing. Yeah. Because I remember, you know, my business honest on it was out here. And so we were coming out here for on it. And every time I would come out, like over the years, I'd notice like traffic was picking up more and more. Before the pandemic. You know, so, but then during the pandemic, obviously there was a massive flux of people like me. We're getting the fuck out of California. And that was the biggest factor.

2:09:52I'm not arguing with you, Joe. That's a great move. I know, it just takes, you have to decide. Because no place is going to be like, oh my god, this is perfect. Yeah. Every place is going to come with a thing. But this thing is like, also like way cheaper. It's way cheaper to live here. Yeah. You get more for your money if you're trying to buy a house and your state taxes are non -existent. Which is just way better. Because if California was perfect and I had to pay a lot of money, but they kept the streets clean. And there was no crime and everybody's having a good time. And there's great schools and great social programs like this feels good.

2:10:31I feel like I'm, yeah, I'm spending a lot of money in taxes. But man, I live in a fucking utopia. I love it. It doesn't feel like that at all. It feels like you're getting fucked by people who tell you they're going to fuck you. And they have to fuck you. And if you don't want to get fucked, you're a part of the problem. Like, oh, okay, I got to get out.

2:10:51I don't feel like that here, though. I don't feel like that here. I don't feel like that when I'm in Nashville. I don't feel like that when I'm in Florida. I think there's parts of this country that haven't lost their fucking minds. And people gravitate towards those parts where people realize like, hey, there's some real need for law and order. There's some real need for rules. There's some real need for, you know, you kind of have your fucking name. You can't let cycles take over the school systems, teach nonsense. Like, there's a real, there's a real, there's a good mixture. And I think Austin's the best mixture because it's a liberal city.

2:11:24It's a very, very progressive city that's surrounded by ranchers. It's surrounded by fucking people in the small towns that are all, you know, driving pickup trucks and shooting signs. It keeps everything balanced. It's a nice balance there. Because even the most liberal people here, they're so much more reasonable than liberal people that I would meet in LA. Liberal people in LA were cult members. And they felt like if you weren't on their team, you were some kind of a Nazi and, you know, you shouldn't be allowed to vote. You definitely should lose your job. It's a tough place to live, Joe. I'm not going to argue with you.

2:12:05Yeah. When you come back in August, I'll take you around. Yeah. And it'll be a good time to know if you hate it because it'll be hot as fuck. Oh, yeah. I'm going to burn my skin off. August is going to be sweaty and hot, but it's beautiful. And the food. Ooh, there's so much good food here. So much good food. So much good food. Now, I come back where we'll do a proper Austin run. All right. Do it for a few days. You got anything to tell people about? I got a major tour in July 11th called the In -Aid Right Tour. A lot of stuff in Los Angeles. They're right. So that starts July 11th at North Fork, Virginia.

2:12:45And currently shooting bookie. Oh, yeah. You're on a show with a Chuck Laurie show. Chuck Laurie show on Max, which winner of the second season we're shooting that. Who's in that with you? Omar Dorseys in it. Andrea Anders of Vanessa for lead. I've heard good things about it. I've heard it's a great show. Really fun show. I want to watch it. Yeah. And so it's on Max. It's on Max. We have eight episodes on there right now. And then we're filming. Well, that guy Chuck Laurie. That fucking guy's done it all. Hits, bro. Hits. Nothing but hits. My family's addicted to the Big Bang Theory right now.

2:13:24So my youngest, my wife, and I watched the Big Bang Theory. I've watched like 100 episodes over the last four months. Yeah, it's crazy. It's fucking great. I underestimated that show tremendously. Because I had seen clips online on my show socks. And then you watch it. This is a funny show. It's a really well made show. Really great writer. And you know, I don't... This is my first TV series. So to have this guy. Really? Yeah. Yeah. So I did a pile of years ago with Tony Danza playing my dad and I never got off the ground. How is it like being Tony Danza? Oh, great. It's a great, well, Tony Danza taxi.

2:13:58And he's the boss and I... He played my dad and he was really, really good. But that was a network show and I've picked it up. Are they making for camera? Like multi -camera sitcoms anymore? Yeah, they... I don't know about networks. But... Miss Pat. Miss Pat Show. Yeah, she's got a multi -camera show. But I mean, do any network tell... Like what is on? Like network TV on Thursday night now. Is it all like the bachelor show? Yeah, I think we're... That kind of shit. Like reality, maybe dating shows. Game shows, reality shows. Big, yeah. Yeah, there are a few. But yeah, no, it used to be all sitcoms.

2:14:38It used to be all sitcoms. I mean, you know you were part of that world. Well, that's why watching the Big Bang Theory make me say like, I enjoy sitcoms. It is a great way to consume entertainment. Yeah, I really enjoy it. Look at this, the game man. The next on the show is my wife. So it was like a talk to camera. So I would do a talk to camera and I would pop back into the scene. So the talk to camera from me would kind of... I was like, oh, I could show my comedy a little bit here and then I would go back into the scene. But yeah, man, I... I wonder if sitcoms are going to come back. I hope they do.

2:15:13If networks are smart, they'll put together some multi -cam sitcoms. Because it's still a fun art form. It's still a fun way to consume humor. Yeah, it is. And it'll come back. Okay, back. Maybe. I don't know. I don't know either. We'll see. We'll see you in the next. Maybe. And also I have a podcast, Pete and Sebastian Show, which we are now... So how to Pete for me. I haven't talked to Pete forever. Pete's a good dude. I can't believe that you said before I saw you here today that I haven't seen you in four years. Five, dude. Is it really five? It's 2019, I believe, was the last time I was on your show.

2:15:47But I've seen you since then. I hope that you've seen you. I don't know. At the store. In 2019, I think. But before the pandemic, I think I saw you. Yeah, that was 2019. It was... It was five years ago. Yeah. Almost. It'd be. I definitely haven't seen you out here as my first time. Right. Out here. But I want to tell you congratulations on all your success from even walking through this place before I came in to know, like, you know, I saw you at the comedy store hanging out in a parking lot. And now you've got a... Now you're floating in a tank in your own warehouse. Sumble it. Well, hey, congratulations to you too.

2:16:24Because I remember when you first started. I really do. I remember your first struggles at the store. Oh, yeah. And I remember I saw you. I was in Vegas. I was working in Vegas. And I was in my hotel room by myself, flippered to the channels. And I saw you're special. And I think it was a showtime special. And I remember tweeting it. Like, it was fucking great. No, it was great. You actually reached out to me and said, Hey, man, this is really good stuff. It's funny. Eleanor Carrigan was on a podcast and something sent it to me. And she's like, Oh, my God. It's a bad show. It was awful. It was awful when he first started.

2:16:57Everybody at the comedy store knew it. They're like, how did this guy get past? And I'm sitting there listening to this going, fuck, I didn't even... I didn't think I was bad. You know, like, it's funny. Like, what you think you are and what people are saying. I didn't know any of that. I thought, oh. Well, the problem was you started out as an open micer at the comedy store in Los Angeles, which is crazy. That's like learning how to play football with the Giants. Yeah. Like, it's nuts. Like, just the idea behind it is nuts. Like, it's a very, very difficult way to break into comedy. And so everybody's terrible in the beginning.

2:17:36If they've seen me six months in there, oh, my God. It fucking sucks. Like, how did he get past? I know, but to hear it. Oh, yeah. To hear it was like, oh, no. I had no idea. And not to even know you suck. It's awful. Like, I knew I was like learning, but I was like, I didn't know people were like, this guy should be pumping gas. You know what? I don't know if you've ever had this on your podcast of what, what do you guys, north of like, 2500 episodes? It's not my bad. I drank way too much water. Before the podcast. During. Oh, so you got to pee right now, real bad. It's unbelievable. Yeah, I see your face.

2:18:19We can wrap this up. The tour, all that. Where, where can the people find the information? SebastianLive .com. Get your tickets to the tour. Get your tickets. It's going to be, and I can't give anything away, but I'm into a lot. I like production at my shows. Not only the comedy, but the experience. So we got some surprises under the time. Nice. And coming to Austin, Texas. When is that August 9th? August 9th. If I'm here, I'm there. All right. I would love to see it. Great to see you again, and congratulations to all your success, too. It's been beautiful to watch. Thank you. You're very, very, very, very happy for you.

2:18:59I appreciate it. You have a man in your show. My pleasure, brother. Anytime. Next time, let's not wait for years. No. Come back. Come back in August. I guess we'll do it again. All right. Appreciate you, brother. Bye, everybody.