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The Joe Rogan Experience - Episode #2158: Harland Williams
Episode Overview In this episode of "The Joe Rogan Experience," comedian Joe Rogan sits down with the multi-talented Harland Williams. They discuss an array of topics ranging from comedic memories, wildlife, cultural observations, and ponder the mysteries of life. The conversation is filled with humor, personal anecdotes, and insightful discussions on various subjects.
Key Topics Discussed
- Comedic Beginnings and Memories
- Joe and Harland reminisce about meeting 31 years ago, sharing light-hearted banter about their early days in comedy.
- They joke about memory and deception, referencing Mary Lou Henner's extraordinary memory as a humorous segue.
- Wildlife Hijinks and Hypotheticals
- Harland and Joe dive into a series of humorous hypotheticals involving animals, such as elephants remembering where they parked their cars and chimpanzees developing weapons.
- They discuss the ecosystem, focusing on the role of predators like bears and wolves in maintaining balance in nature.
- Twilight Zone and Pop Culture References
- The conversation shifts to the influence of "The Twilight Zone" on modern media, highlighting episodes that have inspired films like "Chucky."
- Harland and Joe recall iconic episodes like "To Serve Man" and discuss the cultural impact of the show.
- Unconventional Dietary Practices
- Harland shares a bizarre story about his friend making placenta smoothies, humorously speculating about the line between nourishment and extreme dietary choices.
- The discussion extends to carnivorous animals and their instinctual food choices.
- Fishing and Wildlife Mysteries
- They ponder the evolution of fish populations in newly formed lakes post-Ice Age, questioning how fish ended up in the Great Lakes.
- Harland shares a story about a Nazi POW camp on Lake Superior where soldiers allegedly trained a bear to box.
- Comedy, Theft, and Creative Process
- The duo discusses the prevalence of joke theft in comedy, referencing Robin Williams as a known joke thief who nevertheless had a significant impact on comedy.
- Joe emphasizes the importance of originality and the pitfalls of relying on stolen material in the comedy world.
- Personal Anecdotes and Life Reflections
- Joe recounts a dream about Phil Hartman, which gave him a sense of closure following Hartman's tragic death.
- The conversation touches on the emotional impact of losing loved ones and the nature of dreams in processing grief.
- Technology and The Future
- Joe and Harland speculate on the future of cell phones and communication, touching on concepts like neuro-link and wearable tech.
- They critique the dominance of Apple in the smartphone market and discuss the societal implications of technological advancements.
- Philosophical Musings on Destiny and Life Choices
- The episode delves into the philosophical realm, considering the possibility of a matrix or simulation governing existence.
- They discuss the idea of living the same life repeatedly until mastering it and ponder the implications of such a theory.
- Adventures and Anecdotal Humor
- Harland shares adventurous tales, including narrowly escaping a charging bear and creatively escaping dangerous wildlife scenarios.
- The episode is peppered with Harland's unique brand of humor, blending absurdity with reflections on reality.
Key Takeaways
- Humor as a Coping Mechanism: Throughout the episode, humor serves as a way to explore complex topics, from existential questions to personal loss.
- Nature's Intricacies: The conversation highlights the complexity of natural ecosystems and the often-overlooked mysteries surrounding wildlife evolution.
- Creativity vs. Theft in Comedy: Joe and Harland underscore the importance of authenticity in comedy, discussing the ethical ramifications of joke theft.
- Technology's Impact: The dialogue reflects on how rapidly evolving technology influences human interaction and societal norms.
- Philosophical Exploration: The discussion ventures into speculative philosophy, questioning the nature of reality and human existence.
Final Thoughts This episode of "The Joe Rogan Experience" is a perfect blend of humor, nostalgia, and philosophical inquiry. Joe and Harland's conversation offers listeners a comedic yet thought-provoking exploration of life's many mysteries, underscored by their genuine camaraderie and shared history in the world of comedy.
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Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:03The Joe Rogan Experience. Shrink my day Joe Rogan podcast my night all day. Oh boy, I think I've known you for 30 years. You know crazy about this? 31. Is it really? Yeah. Wow. I remember the day we met. Really? Pascal Robbins on Melrose. Really? Yeah. Do we meet at Pascal Robbins? I'm at Pascal Robbins. I got one of those memories like the girl from Taxi. Oh, do you really? We got a mint chocolate chip, double scoop, and I had peanut butter and chocolate. I think you're making this up. Well, I think you're making this up. He's making this up. I was like, let's see how this goes. I was like, yeah, as soon as he was saying, he's got a memory like the lady from Taxi.
0:43I think I'm going to remember a name.
0:50That lady's got a crazy memory. She does. She can tell you like dates in 1972 what day it was. Dude, I bumped into her to sushi joint once. And she re -enacted the day I lost my virginity. It's unbelievable. Wow. She remembered it. I'll show you now. It was her. It was her. Oh, really? Yeah. She popped my chair. It was hot back in the day. She drove my taxi. Oh. Yeah. She acted as your depot. Wait, what's her name? Mary Lou Retina? No. What is it? It's close. Mary Lou Iris? No. Cornia. Cornia. Mary Lou, Cornia. What was her name? Retina. That's the gymnast. She's the gymnast. That's the gymnast.
1:30What was her name? Marley Matlin. That's the deaf check. Yeah. That's the one that everybody had to pretend was really good at acting. But she did win an Oscar, didn't she? Mary Lou Henner. Oh, that's the... She did the tampon commercial. Did she? Yeah. And who better to do them than a Tumblr? They get guys to do them now. Yeah. That's a new world. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, there she is. Back in the day when she was on taxi, she was hot. But you can't ever lie to her. Yeah. She knows everything. You didn't... I didn't say that. Not only did you say that, you were wearing this. Yeah. Yeah. She just knows it all.
2:13Yeah. I believe it blow. That's probably a real issue in relationships. Yeah. You can't... You can never argue with her about who is right. She remembers it. Yeah. 100%. You got a foggy ass bullshit normal human. Like, how good's your memory? My memory is not that good. Maybe she's an elephant. I don't think their memory is that good. They say they are. Yeah, but like shit that you would remember too. Right. Like how often you watch one of those nature shows and you see like elephants wandering around aimlessly and you know they're looking for their car. Because they can't remember where they parked.
2:49Idiots. Magic elephants can drive. That would be a real problem. I'll be with their fucking carpe. How big would it roads have to be? Wow. If anybody else, any other animals, start developing electronics, I think we just kill them. Yeah. I'm like, what the fuck are you doing over there? Like we wouldn't be cool with chips fastening their own weapons. If they start making guns, if the chips start smelting iron, they'll figure out ballistics. You see chips on the range. Yeah. You're like, hey, hey, hey, only us. Yeah. Well, this is not what planet of the apes is all about. Like, Timor. They evolved to the point where...
3:22Wasn't it, one like experiments? Wasn't it like some kind of experiments? On how it's like, like, take off. Like, they would do, like, back in the day, it was like a time machine thing. Like, they went, right? Like the really old ones first one. Yeah, the first time machine. And you go forward in time and you realize, like, oh my god, the apes are now humans. Yeah, they landed so far in the future on Earth. You know who wrote that one, Rod Serlick? Oh, did it really? He was the twilight fucking man. He was way ahead of his time. With everything. Genius. So many good episodes. You go back to watch the twilight zones, like, no production value, no money for special effects.
4:05Incredible show. And that's what was part of their charm. But the music, everything worked. And if you look at a lot of modern day movies, they were predicated on those old shows. Like, Chuckie, there's an old episode. With Tully Sivalis, Tocque Tina. Hi, I'm Tocque Tina. And I'm going to kill you. This was a doll, remember? Fast forward to Chuckie that demented red -headed, freckle -faced freak. Look at that. There she is, Tocque Tina. You know my favorite one was to serve man. Oh, yeah, it's a cookbook. Yeah. And then Juliet Childs walks out of the UFO. Yeah. How are we everybody? And we're going to serve your children.
4:51What did the aliens look like on to serve man? Oh, very bizarre. Yeah, they had giant bulbous heads. Yeah, there it is. Yeah. They look like Herman Munster without the hair. Well, how bad does fucking make up is? You can see where he's included in the cheek. You can see everything. He's so shitty. Like, you could better than that in a high school musical. Speaking of human cookbooks, I have a buddy who just had a kid. And he told me him and his wife made placenta smoothies. And I'm sitting here going, what if you love them? What if you love the taste your own kid? And one day you're with Billy at the park and you're just looking at him and you're like, you know, you start licking your lips like, he sure did taste good.
5:40And then cannibalism. You eat your own kid? I don't think it's actually eating your own kid. I think it's eating the nutrients that provide nourishment to the kid while it's in the womb. It's not you're not eating the kid. The kid is separate from the placenta. It is? Yeah, the kid is natural. Oh, I thought it was covered like, you know, when a gazelle drops its baby on the calahari and it like licks all that film off it, isn't that placenta? Or is that just like a pastasauce? It's like carbonara. I think that is placenta, right? I mean, it probably must be. So isn't that what human kids have?
6:16Yeah, but it's not the kid itself. It's the nutrients that the kid was consuming while they were in the womb. I believe, obviously, I'm not a doctor. Yeah, look at this. They eat that. They eat that. She about to drop. Boy, how vulnerable are they when they're giving birth? Oh, yeah. And half of those kids get snatched up immediately. Really? Yeah. Some cats are wild dogs or something come run over and steal your baby and that's it. You carry that thing around inside of you for months. You love it more than anything in life. They'll protect it like, obviously they have this insane connection with that baby and then it gets snatched away by a cat.
6:55It literally doesn't get its first bleat out. Like it lifts its head, and then bonk. Well, that's one of the things that people have to be very aware about North America. What? Bears. What bears are doing to deer and moose, same thing. Like the half of the, like if you really love deer and moose and elk and stuff like that. Half of those animals, babies got eaten by bears. Yeah. They eat like half of the babies that come out. Half. Half. Yeah, like, you know, it's a good thing in a good ecosystem. To call the herd. Yeah, well, it's just, it's not even just a call to herd. It's just to, that's how, that's what they're there for.
7:35Like, it's a system. We look at it like it's this beautiful thing because it is beautiful. You see these animals in the wild and nature. But what it is, it's a system. It's got a mathematical system. You have numbers. And the amount of predators is based on the amount of prey and the amount of babies they have. And the amount of babies that survive. And, you know, animals that have less babies don't survive as well. Animals that are bigger, fight off the wolves better. It's like, there's a whole system. And it trickles down right to the vegetation. Yep. And the ecosystem, you know this, like, if they remove the wolves, then the elk and caribou herds expand and they start eating all the growth on the river banks, causing erosion.
8:19The river is flat. Now, it just, so you have to have those predators. So I'm glad they're eating half. And I'm going to, if they're listening, eat three quarters. If they were any eat half, we would be overrun by deer and elk. And you, like, you'd have a situation where you have like a New Zealand where they have to fly over the hills and just gun them down. Moose, the New Zealand. No, they have the New Zealand, New Zealand's a wild place. Yeah. Literally, but it's beautiful. It's beautiful. So beautiful. Both. They got there in, I get the 1700s or something like that. Maybe the 1800s. And these European settlers, these European explorers, like this place is so beautiful, but it doesn't have any things for us to kill.
8:59Why don't we bring in a bunch of wild animals from Europe that we like to kill? And so they turned them into like a wild game safari park for hunting. Jesus. Yeah, so there's all these animals like stags and all these different kinds of deer, all these animals that are not supposed to be in New Zealand. Yeah. This is overwhelmed. Like, if you buy elk, like, if you go to a restaurant and you buy an tenderloin, okay. Most likely that elk is coming from New Zealand. No. Yeah. There's alken New Zealand. A lot of alken New Zealand. And it's probably, they probably can are allowed to consider stag. This episode is brought to you by Buffalo Trace Distillery.
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11:11Have you ever heard of stag roar? Yeah. It's really fucking cool. And when they mate, the male Elks do that whistle. You know that sounds like a pickle.
11:29What a weird noise. Yeah.
11:38Look at his penis growing up and down. Oh yeah, they jizzled over themselves. Wow. I've seen elk do it where they just piss all over themselves while they're screaming. They're screaming. Elks are even cooler. Give me an elk and elk bugle. Elk bugle, I think, is the coolest sound in the world. Oh, me? Bro, if you didn't know, if you didn't know, if you were in the dark and you were in the encamping and you knew to elk bugle. And you didn't know what that was, you'd think, oh my god, there's monsters out here. Yeah. Yeah, there it is. Couldn't you imagine that being a monster? Yeah. It's sort of like an instrument.
12:17Imagine if it's dark out here and you hear that. You'll be like fuck. Yeah. It's demons.
12:26Yeah, that's what kind of haunting and scary. That's the greatest animal. And then they go and do the big cats go into a flamen. You know this? Flamen? I ran into problems with girlfriends because of this. It's like when the female lions are the leopards, they get ripe. You know what I mean? Ready to party? Let it go. The lions and the cheetahs and they do this thing where they smell the female scent and they go. They do this thing where they curl their lip up. And it's like a sexual thing. And that, for some reason, I don't know why, but I do that when I'm about to get into some love -making.
13:05You do a little bit of that? And do you like embody the lion? I don't know. I just have the thing. They flick and they never stick around. Yeah. Flamen response takes place when one lion of either sex sniffs or smells the urine of another. Chemicals and hormones contain the urine elicit the flamen response. Usually after smelling the urine patch on the ground or vegetation, the cat is doing the smelling. Well, lift his head, his or her head and hold their lips back in a strong grimace. Let me see it. Yeah. You know, and I got it. It's just like, yeah, look. I got to start dating girls that wipe, I guess.
13:41Look at that face that urine. Yeah. Just looking at that right before it fucking closes down on your neck. And go, oh yeah, I'm not getting out of this. Here's fucking no escape. There's no hip escape. There's no jiu -jitsu move. There's no poking in the eye. That's a wrap. It's a wrap. Look at that mouth. That is a wrap, a wrap. I had a moment when I was on Safari in Africa where it's the only time in my life I started shaking. We were on a private land rover. We came up on two male lions that had just made a kill. We're literally probably, I'd say, 25 feet from them. And one of them got up and we're in the open land rover, right?
14:26Right. No protection. No windows. That is such bullshit. So we got the guy driving from our camp and this thing, one of them got up walked a half way to us and just did that burning stare with its golden eyes. Oh my god. And I was holding the, and my hand, because it is one of the few times in my life I felt like I was in death's door. That lion could have been on me in two seconds and it was terrifying but exhilarating at the same time. Do they know that the lions won't jump into the cab and pull people out? They get acclimated to these kind of clunky things and look, I believe me, I know nature's unpredictable.
15:10What's the crust do you have to have? Well, I said to our driver, he was parked in front of a stump. I said to him, I said, dude, I know you do this every day. Get away from the stump. We need to have an exit strategy. Yeah. And so we'll be fine. I said, no, move from the stump. Because nature, you don't know when nature's going to do that. Did you know that it was going to be an open air thing? Yeah, yeah. And you were cool with that? Yeah, it's beautiful. But I didn't know we were going to come up on two male lions that were in the middle of eating a wildebeest and be the only ones there and like 25 feet away and one of them was going to shorten the distance by half.
15:48Oh, God. Was this before or after the lady from Game of Thrones, who was the video editor? She's one of the video editors of Game of Thrones. She got pulled out of a car by a line. Oh, she did? Well, there you go. There's your answer. Yeah, it can happen. I think it was a different situation though. I don't think they were acclimated to the open air ones because in this one, it was cars. And she rolled her window down to reach out to take a picture. Oh. And the catch is snatched her. Oh, yeah. It's like a toy. I mean, you're basically rolling a piece of yarn. If you see, if a cat sees a thing that he couldn't get, but now he can get it, their instinct is just to get it.
16:28Yeah. Like even if they never would do that if the windows were rolled down from the beginning, the moment they see you peeking out, like you're basically like dangling. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's just a video of it. No, so I just a picture of it. I guess this is how it happened. Oh, God, that's so horrible, man. Oh, my God. Look how big that thing is. Imagine that pulling you out of the fucking car. Oh, my God. So I was in Florida on. And I was doing a gig like on one side of Florida and had to cross over to the other side. And in between. Are you walking? No, no, no. Daddy had a... Here's where it got clunky, right?
17:07I rented a convertible, right? Oh, boy. It's Florida. Right. So I had time to kill. So I looked on the thing halfway across. There's a lion safari where you can drive through, right? And you drove through in a convertible? No, so I pulled up and they said, sir, you can't go through the convertible. But for $10 extra dollars, we'll rent you one of our little junkers. And the junkers were painted like a zebra because it was a lion park. So they painted them with stripe. It was like a piece of crap that was just meant to go through the two mile park and out. So it's like a million degrees. It's Florida.
17:43It's Tuesday on one in the afternoon. No one's there because I'm cutting across the country. This is like a weekend place. They put me in this zebra mobile. I'm all alone in this park. I get right in the middle of the lion thing. There's like 60 lions. The carcunks out. 300 degrees. No AC because it's an old junker. And I just got 60 lions just going. Zebra. And I'm just sitting there. No one's coming. Daddy's sitting there in the project. I just sit there for. I sat there for about 15, 20 minutes until they came. And I got to crack the window because it's like a dog and a Walmart parking lot.
18:27And it was, and I'm sitting there going, I'm a zebra. I'm sitting there. I'm a zebra. You could die of heat exposure in there. Or by getting mulled by a pride of lions. Does that mean they're gay if it's a pride of lions, by the way? No, pride isn't always gay. Okay, they look gay to me. Pride didn't used to be gay. Used to be like you're proud of something. One of them had their hair fluffed out. It looks pretty gay. It's actually in the Bible. Lions? They're gay. Pride. Pride. It's not good. Wait. What do we say? Is it the same thing? I don't know. It's in the Bible. It's one of the sins. What?
19:00Pride? Oh, yeah. It's one of the other six like... So why would you make a thing that is like... I have American pride. I love America. I do have American pride. I'm a patriot. I think this is an amazing place. Yeah. So I have pride. So does that mean I'm gay? Or does it mean I'm sinning? Well, if it's just the verb, you're just... You know what I'm saying? It's like, what a flexible word. If you're trying to learn American English, like how we use things, like just English, and you spoke another language that was more logical, you'd be like, what the fuck? Why don't you have different words? Why do you have the same word that means such different things?
19:43Like the word rose. Isn't there like seven different meanings for the word rose? Well, there's the flower. The rose up. The rose of corn. Right. Yeah, yeah. Like it's just like... Right. I didn't think of rose of corn. Yeah. Yeah, rose the boat. Yeah. Oh my God, there's so many. Yeah. That's so stupid. Well, there's two there. There's ROSC and ROWS. Same sound. Did you want out of sounds? Yeah, you could have called... Obviously you didn't. You could have... They're making new pronoun sounds every day. Yeah. You could have called rose of corn, like clonk of corn. Yeah. Something that doesn't make me fucking confused.
20:18Especially if I'm learning the language, like I speak Portuguese or something like, hold on my friend. This is the same word. Like what the fuck are you saying? What a goofy... Yeah. You need so much context to be able to like figure out. I think English is supposed to be one of the most difficult languages to learn. I think Russian is very hard. Chinese is very hard. Man is very hard. Manity? Is that what you said? Man -Dren. Like Chinese. Oh God. Imagine like you can speak it, but you can't read it or write it. Because that happens with a lot of Asian languages. Like to learn Japanese. It's like speaking Japanese is hard.
20:54But now you have to learn how to read it and write it. Like that's extra hard. I got a story for you about that a little later. Do you learn Japanese? I sort of, well, Vietnamese. I sort of had to. Were you in Nome?
21:10Possibly. I did two tours in Nome. And I got to say, Sunquest Bus Lines. The best tours. Oh God. Air -conditioned buses. The other thing. Two tours. Yeah. Right? Tours. Yeah. Very different meaning. If you're talking about called Vietnam in 1967. Huge difference. Big difference. I found out. Do you mind if I just dip into, uh, I brought a little something I have to do it about every 20 minutes. I do apologize. What is it? I have to have an eating thing I have to do. Really? Well, if you don't mind. No, no, not at all. Thank you. Oh, God. What is your eating thing? Uh, a little bearist.
22:00I have a tapeworm. For real? Yeah. Like, it's about almost four feet. Have you ever had one? You really do? Yeah. I never know with you, you know. I don't know if I should feel bad or start mocking you. Well, you can do whatever. I don't even want to bring it up. I don't like to feel bad if it's true. You have a real tapeworm. I do. How'd you get it? You think? I was in the Galapagos Islands recently. And we, they have a road and over there called the Bermuda eel rat. And it's not a documented species. It's the local jargon. Everything evolves in, as you know, through Darwin, everything evolved over in the Galapagos.
22:46The tortoises, everything. It's a unique place where evolution took place. And I guess this wrap became a bit elongated, it's spined. And so they call it the, came off originally off of a Bermuda, like transport ship or something. Right. And so they eat it over there. And I ate the damn thing and I got a parasite that led to a tapeworm. And she's about a four footer. What do they do to get out? Get it out. Well, they have pills.
23:21But this is, I don't even know if I should talk about this, but I, there's a little odd. I sort of got attached to the little fella. Are you like having it now? Well, you know, we hear all this talk about, you know, women and men and men can have babies. They're telling men they can have children. They're going to a baby tapeworm. Well, let's just say I have something living inside me. And I sort of like it. I sort of like sometimes I can feel it moving around. Sometimes I'll put a piece of cheese in the bed at night and it'll come out and I feel like I have a tail. And so what I have to do is I have to, I have to eat celery.
24:02Well, what it does it reacts to the vibration of sound and celery's kind of got the best kind of crunch and it kind of settles the guy down. Okay. Just I just need to take a couple of bites. Are you? Go ahead, sure.
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24:28Well, if you're going to laugh.
24:33You have to do this about every 20 minutes. For the tapeworm. Yeah, settles them down. I think you go into a bad doctor. I think you're getting bad advice. No, I just mean for me. For you. This is like a self -medicating. Yeah, I think they can get rid of those things, man. No, but what I'm saying, I've grown attached to demeatry. I like going to demeatry. It's probably like, you know, I have a forced labor. But I like demeatry. Yeah, but you can't keep a baby inside you forever. The whole idea is the baby gets born and then it goes out. Hold on, doctor Spock. These suckers can grow up to 30 feet long.
25:13Mine's a four footer. Can they really get that big? How do they know how big is this? Would they do an MRI or something? Well, we did an ultrasound. And they could see the tapeworm inside of you. Can you see it? Do you got a picture of that? I don't have a picture handy. How do you not have a picture on your phone of that? I've got my kid of a little demeatry. Yeah. Seems like you'd be really sad if you didn't have a picture of him. I got to bring one in. When I come back next week, I'll bring one in. Tapeworms are test toad. Test toad, test toads can range and length one meter up to 50 feet. 50 feet, dude.
25:4915 meters, the length and width of the tapeworms can vary depending upon the species. Wow. Pork beef, fish, tapeworms can grow to be 15 to 30 feet long. Permute a eel rat. Do they have that there? How'd that rat taste? You know, it's kind of good. They season it up with the Galapagos seasoning and it's kind of like blackened catfish, but it's like Galapagos seasoning. Seashing all those people that live there probably have tapeworms. I don't know if they have it, but I sure got it. They have to have it. If you got it, that must mean everybody has it. Unbelievable. There's places in the world that like, especially like tropical places where most people have some kind of parasite.
26:31It just becomes a part of like your body. You now exist with that thing in you forever. You know? Have you ever had a tapeworm? No, I have not. You want one? No, thanks. What's the worst thing you've ever had? Like the worst weird ailment? Staff infection. No way how many people on your staff? It was a small business. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, just one employee. What's a staff infection? It's an infection that you get on your skin. It's like a bacterial infection? Exactly. It's really common in Jiu -Jitsu, and a lot of people get it, and they don't recognize it. Ari actually had it, and Ari didn't know he had it until I pointed it out.
27:19We got him to the hospital right away. Ari and I were playing pool and he was limping. I'm like, why are you limping? What? And he goes, I got a spider bite, and I go, let me see it. And he pulls his pants up and his knee, he has this swollen pimple on his knee, and the pus at the end of it. I go, dude, you have a staff infection. I go, we got to get you to the hospital right now. He goes, are you serious? Is it lethal? Yeah. It's lethal. Yeah, people die. If they get systemic, if staff infections get systemic, if your body becomes septic, you could die. Yeah, people have died from staff, and happens all the time.
27:50Yeah, people get it, and hospitals a lot, don't they? Yes. And unfortunately, in hospitals, they get something called merse. And merse is medication -resistant staff infection. Wow. A lot of black gospel singers get that out here. Merse? Oh, that's mercy, I'm sorry. What were you saying, Jim? Didn't you say something? Oh, I thought I heard you. I thought I'd talk about numbers being a dying staff infection. I thought I heard about that. Yeah, too. How many people a year die from staff infections? I think it's a big number. Wow. I know quite a few people that have been, have been deathly ill from staff infections.
28:27So how do you go to the hospital and get their legs cut open and get their legs drained? Yeah. Yeah, it's a horrible, horrible thing to watch. Like it eats holes in people. You've watched staff infection surgeries? No, no, no. I've seen them online. 2017, the Center of Disease Control Prevention reported that almost 20 ,000 people in the staff. That's 2017. He killed 20 ,000 people. Yeah, so that's the worst thing I've had for sure. How long did it last? Didn't it didn't last very long because I caught it. I got real lucky. I caught it quick. I was at an airport with my friend Tate and I had this little pimples on my calf and he goes, he goes, hey, what is out of your calf?
29:12I go, I don't know, something. And he goes, did I think that staff I go really? He goes, yeah, he should get it looked at. So immediately I went to dermatologist and he's like, yeah, it looks like staff. And he put me in antibiotics before they even got the results of the test back. He put you on it, not your cow? My cow. I thought you said your calf. Calf, like leg. Part of your leg. That one, you really went out there with that one.
29:41That's the worst thing. Have you ever, do you really have a tapeworm? I do. For real. Yes. Please. What do they have you on Ivermectin? What do they have you on? They don't have, they just, you can't get it, all they do is kill it. It can live in your system. They told me for your whole life. Right. Yeah, you ever seen bears, they have them like sticking out of their ass? Oh, yeah. Like a fucking hose, like a garden hose just hanging. You ever seen the worms that come out of praying mantises? Oh, yes. They're like, cute. Cute, cute. They put a praying mantis in water and that bastard must not have been praying enough.
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33:12Distilled, aged, and bottled by Buffalo Trace Distillery, 90 proof. Franklin County, Kentucky, Buffalo Trace, American, family -owned, independent, and perfectly untamed. Well, I don't want the meat tree to get upset. You need to reach into your asshole and pull the meat tree out. Wow, you need to like, you know, like with your shoulders down the ground, ask up here, just get it in there. Joseph and give birth. Joseph, dial it down. I'm not gonna... Is he ever turtle on you? Yes! Does he? That's why I call him Demetri. One night I put out a piece of fetiches, the Greek stuff, and he went nuts, came out.
33:59Came out. Have you ever seen a Burmese python? Yes. I had a lady friend over, and I guess little Demetri got jealous, and I woke up all I heard just... And he looked over. He was, yeah, unbelievable. How are you laying? Spooning? Like, where's her face? Is it like right where your ass is? Well, we spoon upside down, so her feeling, it makes sense. She uses her, my nose, like a bicycle rack. You have to come out.
34:37Yeah, it's not pretty, but he's my boy. How long is it gonna take to kill him? I don't want to kill him. This is why I'm... No, but for real, for real. How long is it gonna take to kill it? Well, once you take those pills, you can kill it within about three days. And you're not taking the pills? No. I'm telling you, a guy, you know, I feel like I have a boy inside me. Wow, wait a minute. Like a child. Well, good luck with that. Thank you. If you see, I want to see a photo of those bears. The bears that have it, it's so disgusting. It looks like enormous spaghetti. Oh, it's a 10 -year -old. I never asked.
35:17Have you ever been attacked by a bear? No. Oh, like here. I'm here, right? Well, you'd... Look at that. There are survivors and I can... Look at all that tapeworm coming out of his asshole. How crazy is that? Whoa, it looks like he just got married. You should put 10 cans on the end of those. He just opened someone's steps on it, so he could pull it out of his ass. Yeah. Looks like he was parachuting and he landed and he just dragged the parachute. I mean, how insane is that? Wow. I mean, their whole body is just a disgusting mess. Yeah. Like when you eat bears, you eat bear? Yeah, I've eaten bear.
35:54Gris, black bear, polar. Black bear. Black bear. Black bear, not gris. No, I've never had one else. What's the... Why'd you eat black bear? Well, hunted them. Yeah. Yeah, they have to. But I heard it's kind of a musky kind of weird taste. No, it really depends on what they've been eating. But most... Unfortunately, most of those bears are probably eating calves, moose calves and fawns, deer fawns. They taste good. Black bears are kind of like goats though. They'll eat just about anything. They'd eat a lot. Do you know then the early days, the pioneers used to eat bear and they used deer for skin?
36:31They just used deer skins. They just used the hide from deer. They were eating bear. Oh, I see. They ate bear more than they ate anything else. Is that right? Yeah, am that crazy? Well, maybe there was a reason for that because the bear was a threat to them. So maybe it's like, let's kill the thing that could kill our cattle or kill our children. And let's eat that versus the docile. This is just a theory. I just cannot... That's a good theory. That makes sense. Yeah, we definitely want to kill the thing that's killing your food. And if you could eat it too, all the better. And apparently they thought it tasted the most like beef.
37:08Whereas like venice is different. Yeah, venison has its own taste. Mm -hmm. Yeah. So they ate a lot of bear. Black bears are dangerous, but grises are the one you got to be careful about. They're all dangerous, man. They're all bears. I don't know if it... Can I share something with you? Please do. I'm a blueberry nut. Like I might like blueberries. When blueberry season hits in early spring, I'm nuts about it. How's the meat you feel about that? Well, you like celery. He'll give them berries. There you make fun of my boy. Joe. Anyway, blueberries. So this was about seven years ago. I'm up on a hill in Bamp, out in Canada, in the Rocky Mountains.
37:57Gris, you know, gris. And I'll use a line from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. Remember, a caracadus pot? He was the father to Dick Van Dyke. And he used this line where he's singing. He's doing a song in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. And he doesn't line where he goes. And the bear came a lullipin over the mountain. And I'm sitting there picking blueberries. And this behemoth comes flying over the hill. So that was a grizzly bear. It was a gris. When they attack, they roll you. They roll and claw. And I've never done this, but...
38:41You're such a dork. Hey, fuck it. What do you mean?
38:49Well... I'm just not a real fucking dad, too. Should I see that again? Let me see that again. Dude, this is not easy for me to talk about. Let me see it. The bear came a lullipin over the mountain. And... That tattoo belongs to a mechanic and Idaho. And you need to give it back to him.
39:16So... Let me see it again. What the... Let me see it again. The bear came a lullipin over the mountain. What? How dare you say that? Is that the longest anyone's ever gone for a gag? That's... That is... Yeah, that's the furthest anyone's ever gone. You actually got a tattooed on your chest. Well, hang on, guy. I'm trying to tell you I got attacked by a gris. No. You know what? No.
39:50No. No. No. No. No. Oh my god. No. No. No. Probably the bear hurt his shoe and celery. And you know what I did? I did a thing. I've meant to call the jelly roll. Because I'm in the blue berries. The only way to evade the gris. I rolled down the hill. He's ripping my chest straight down the hill into a river. Boom. Bouncing around like Moses. Blueberry jelly. Burculosis teeth. You making jelly as you roll through the surface. Yeah, I'm crushing the... Yeah. And this bear was just befuddled. Just stood there, looked like forest gump with a Chinese dildo up his ass.
40:35Now a mountain lion on the other hand. Can I share something with you? No. This is involved with another tattoo. Well, no, the mountain lion. What the fuck is that? He... The star. Did you glue those on? He... What the fuck is wrong with the mountain lion? Scrapes. He digs in with his claws. What? What is wrong with you? Can a guy have adventure stories in nature? Yeah, those that make up artists who ever did that. They're like from the Twilight Zone. Same person. Same person. Did that fucking... That alien's head. Hey, you're healing by the power of Jesus. Oh, God. That's hilarious. You're healing.
41:27Yeah. That's helping. But here's where I talked to you earlier about learning Mandarin. Here's the difference between the evolution of nature, mammals, critters, and human beings. Cut to about eight years ago. I'm on the McKenzie River. And there's white water like you wouldn't believe. Little Vietnamese boy, can name Kimmy Long Wow. Freckles on his face. Unbelievable. Tips. Okay. Bears, wild cats. They just scratch. The ingenuity, the intelligence of a human. I jump in, grab little Kimmy Long Wow. He starts scratching me. Can I show you something? Look at this. This kid scratched the shit out of me.
42:29And even in a panic state, I had to learn Mandarin. This is towards the night before Christmas.
42:42Well... She means, man. I don't believe a blow. What was his name again? Little Kimmy Long Wow. He had freckles on his face. It looked like Dolly Parton serving Apple Cobbler. If he joined them. He was Vietnamese. Vietnamese boy. Kimmy Long Wow. Why would a Vietnamese kid have freckles? It seems uncommon. That's what was so weird. That's how he stood out amongst all the other boys. A child of an American GI. I don't know. But just unbelievable kid. To see a little Vietnamese boy with freckles, you don't get that. How many American... That was always a thing. Those Chuck Norris action movies. Remember, missing an action?
43:26There was always about guys that were still stuck over there. We had to go get them. We really kind of forgot about that. Are those the guys that inspired you? Like Norris? Oh yeah, Bruce Lee. When you were a kid, did you sneak into the movies? I went to the movies. It was on television too when I was a kid. The first Bruce Lee movie I ever saw was on television. I couldn't believe it. I was like, look at that guy. That's insane. How's he doing that? But those missing and action movies was all about missing POWs. Then we always... That was always a thing. The POWs from Vietnam got left behind.
44:02Chuck Norris can go back and get them and set them free. How many POWs got left behind in Vietnam? Because that's a fucking real thing. Now it was a bullshit war. But people went over there and they left them there. John McCain, remember him? The Paul W. Pitch. Yeah, he was a prisoner for years. His shoulders were all fucked up. Yeah, he couldn't put his arms down. Like I remember I went on a roller coaster with him once. At the end of it, I was like, guy, it's done. And he was still... That's how crazy Trump made a fun of him getting caught. Yeah. No, he Trump said, well, I like guys that didn't get caught.
44:43Yeah, one more. Fuck, are you saying? Like you were gonna run away. You would run away? Which would be... Yeah. If you're his enemy, he doesn't give a fuck. He'll do something. You're scared. You're scared. Even if it doesn't make any sense, he'll say, like, what? Guys, you don't get caught. What? How can you fucking say that about a war hero? It's Jesus Christ. That's true. Wild. Crazy, but he's my enemy. Fuck him. No, no holes barred. Battle mode. How many American soldiers got left behind? Maybe it, um... I was trying to find out. And this is by the way, they're not gonna tell you the real number, right?
45:22They're not? No, they didn't tell you why we're going into the war in the first place. I'm sure that even the death count is probably disputed. Who knows? Have you ever romanticized being in combat like that? Even though it's the death zone of you ever like, because you're a hunter, you're skilled with the rifle. Have you ever sort of imaginary, like, immersed yourself into a Vietnamese like battle scene? No. No, nor could I imagine those guys who got conscripted. You know, they got drafted. Right. So you didn't even want to do it. Maybe you just wanted to build cars. Maybe you wanted to be a painter.
45:59Now I'll say, and you're over there with a rifle, and you're in the dark, in the jungle. But does the hunter side of you go in there and imagine like you could excel in that environment? No. The hunter is a totally different experience. The hunting side of me is like dipping my toe into the natural world, like getting my food the hard way. Yeah. That's the hunter in me is going out and finding food and interacting with nature. But the, the, the Elk are not my enemy. I love them. Right, but is there a thrill to the kill though? There has to be a moment of sort of adrenaline and jubulation when you man conquer's beast.
46:41Does that exist? The thrill is that you pulled off a difficult thing. It's very hard to do, and it's very hard to make a shot with a bow and arrow on an animal. Yeah. In a lethal shot. And to be able to do it consistently. To do it every time you hunt, to be able to make a lethal shot. And I'm talking about it like 50 yards, 60 yards. Oh wow. Do you strictly use bow and arrow? Yes. Oh, I didn't know that. I thought you were right. I shoot with rifles. Okay. I killed a pig last year with a rifle. Wow, the farmer's sausage. It was a wild one. Oh, how big. They actually had to kill it. It was pretty big, 200 pounds.
47:14Texas. No, this was in California. And so I ate him just the other day. Was she sagged? That was a boy. It's a boy pig. No, I said was she sagged. I know what you're saying. California, is that a joke and actor joke? Yeah. I got you. I got you. What was I saying though? What was I on about? Well, you were talking about the hunting and the hunting versus the war. War to me is insane. I don't know what I mean. It's like I don't want to have nothing to do with that. I wouldn't really know. There's no little piece of you that you're in the dark jungle. Someone's boy. That's someone's baby boy. I don't think of it even as a man.
47:51That's someone's baby boy that I don't know. That guy has parents and they probably love him. And he probably has a wife and she loves him. And he probably has friends and they love him. I like it. And they just said that. And then some fucking politician is telling me that that guy's my enemy. I bet that guy and I, if we could speak the language we'd have a beer together and have a good time. What a great answer. He thought it doesn't want to have anything to do with killing me and I don't want to have anything to do with killing him. And we're both being suckered into this thing by a bunch of assholes who are just making money.
48:17I love that answer, Joe. If I could fly over this table and hug you, I would. Oh, we hug a lot. But it reminds me of a movie. Did you ever see this old movie with Lee Marvin? And I can't remember the other actor. He was a Japanese actor. But this was a movie I think in the 60s where they're both in the war. The Japanese pilot and Lee Marvin. They both crashed on a remote island. Supreme enemies. And they only had each other. And a box of sake somehow got stranded on the island. And they became the best friends in the world. And I think if everyone looked through that prison in life, they would forget about all the war and the violence.
48:59When you realize someone else is exactly like you. Exactly. And that you need someone else. And they have the same fears, desires, passions, and wants as you. It's such a beautiful movie. You know, it's where all the freaking same. Whenever you get into an altercation with someone, you feel disliked towards someone. You should always just pitch yourself, trapped on an island with that person and go, you know what? If I were alone with them, I would love them. They'd be my best friend. You'd figure it out. It's a mental thing. If everyone kind of adopted that mentality, I think we'd, things would be nice.
49:33Things could be a lot better. We're just, we're divided by so many things in this world. We're divided by politics. We're doing, you hear like Robert De Niro screaming and trying to people about Trump like, horrible. What are you doing? Like what is this? Like this is like silly behavior. All this is so silly. Not only that, labeling them, calling them clowns and denigrating them saying, you're less than me because I like this and you like that. It's all insane. Do you remember that there was a beautiful experiment done by Jane Elliott in the 1960s, where she took a classroom of children. And she said, all the children with brown eyes raise your hands and all the children with blue eyes raise your hands.
50:15And she separated them. And she, she, if you can find it on YouTube, she told all the blue eyed children that they were, they were beautiful. They were smarter. They were, they were, they were, they were more superior than the brown eyed children. And she conducted this experiment for a week. And over the course of the days, the blue eyed children started denigrating and looking down on the brown eyed children and acting superior. And then halfway through the experiment, Jane Elliott goes, oh, I made a mistake. It's the brown eyed children that are more superior. And so the whole thing shifted.
50:55And all the children in that class got to feel what it was like to be put down to, you know, have racism towards them. It was a fascinating experiment. It's, it's on YouTube if you ever want to watch it. It's, it's mesmerizing. It's an interesting experiment. Like, what the fuck, lady, you're playing tricks on kids? Well, I think she was trying to damp, she should. I get your demonstrate. Yeah. But you're also tricking these kids in a thinking that way. Well, I think she was setting the table for them in life, saying, hey, maybe don't think you're better than anyone. We're all the same. And don't let people tell you you're better than everyone.
51:34And, and it was also a social experiment that was documented too. So there was a, would you let your kid do that? Do that kind of experiment? Yeah, if they didn't know. Yeah. Would you let them sign up for that? Yeah. And talk shit to the blue eyed kids. Uh, you know what? I'd let my kid do that. I would have told my kid a long time ago that that would be nonsense and that they wouldn't believe that. Right. I would teach my kid that. But, uh, it's one thing to tell a kid something and then to let something play out in the real world is, it's a different thing. People, humans have a tendency to get caught up in the fever of things, you know?
52:10Like COVID. Like COVID? Yeah. Like, like politics. Politics. Like all of this stuff. Yeah, people. Anytime, anytime there's any sort of international conflict in Palestine and Israel, go out, Ukraine and Russia. You have a sect of people that sort of know what's what and then you have a large sect of people that just get caught up in the furor of it. Mm -hmm. And it's, it's scary to see how quickly people are absorbed by it and, and caught up in it. It's frightening. Well, that's, you have been to a protest? No. Protest feel like, like a mob. It feels dangerous. When there's a bunch of people walk around even if it's peaceful and they're cheering, especially if they're cheering about something that happened that was violent.
52:55Yeah. And they're angry. And they're demanding something. And they're all marching. It's like you, that, I think that ignites in human beings the same feelings of war. Yeah. There's my, there's my cough button still busted, Jamie, reduce, swap that out. You're okay? It's gonna be okay. Yeah. Payton, he has to swap that out. We had a cough button. There. Working there. Should I try? No. No, it's just a flamm. Well, I'm good to go. I don't need celery. Please. For no, thank you. Why? I don't have any tapeworms and I don't enjoy celery. We're kidding. You're excited to get a butter. Do you have any peanut butter?
53:37This motherfucker might have peanut butter. How about a cauliflower? No, that's not the same thing. Well, it's got the same letters in it. It doesn't have all of them. It's missing the bee. I thought you like cauliflower. No. Well, now what am I gonna do? Just put it down. Well, what were we just talking about before that? Vietnam. Are you okay, guy? Yeah, I just got this flamm thing. Maybe you've got flammin. Maybe. Whoa. I like that. Oh, imagine what they can smell. You ever do that noise when you're making love? No. Why not? What the fuck are you doing? Dude, it's primal. Women love it. Should make fun of me.
54:18Should get up and leave. No, I'm... Here is an experiment from me to you. Okay, just want you to try that. I want you to try that. Next time you're making love, not to get into your purse, I respect your personal space, but doggie style, right by her ear.
54:34Carl just started barking. Listen to Carl. Listen to Carl. Carl.
54:48Wow. Have you ever seen Carl do that? It's Carl I've done that before. Wow. So, a few noises in here. I've been open up, please. Wow. He's fired up. That is crazy. Look, he really believes. I have a, like, if calling dogs was a thing, yeah, I'd have a, like, a really good career and call dog call. What's your your growl?
55:17Yeah. Yeah. Dude, you got, Carl believes it. You got to try that with your wife. This is your Carl. Carl. Sorry, Carl. Poor Carl. Oh, god. He thinks he's, walked into a wolf pack. Yeah, he's like, someone's going to eat me. This is bullshit. These guys have been pretending to be my friends. They've been letting me bite their fingers the whole time. They're setting me up. Dude, I'm telling you try that. Try that with the wife. Oh, okay. We got to try it. Poor Carl. Poor, dude, a Carl. Poor Carl. He's like, what the fuck? That's a good, good noise. Thank you. Where'd you, where'd you acquire that skill?
55:55Because I learned it when we had, when I had a puppy, I would, I would try to, I like to communicate to animals in their own language if you can. Right. Do you have dogs, right? Yeah. Do you want to just talk to him? You don't do that. Hardly ever barks. He very, very, very rarely barks. Hill bark if he has to go outside, like if he has diarrhea, Hill bark, like, right, you get by the door and go, oh, fuck, Chad help me out. Whoa. Or Hill bark if he sees something. He used to, you know what he used to bark. Carl's done, huh? He's fired, Carl. He's tied. No, he wants to bite us, man. Ooh. Little gangster.
56:30He'll, remember those inflatable snowmen that people would have on their front lawn? Yeah. Around Christmas time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He barks at those. What? Your dog? Yeah. Why? I don't know. He thinks it's a thing. He like, like, what's the tell me? There's a big animal there. He's like letting me know. Yeah. He's like, Dad, what the fuck is that, Dad? He thinks it's a Yeti, like, one of those abonable snowmen. I bet he thinks it's a bear. I bet it's just like, I bet in a dog's mind, there's a shape that has two arms, that stands up big, and you go bark. Bark bark. Yeah. And like, when I have to go do, Dad, it's just, that's a snowman.
57:03Don't worry about it. I love that your dog has a diarrhea bark. He has a, I gotta go out now bark. But you said diarrhea. Yeah, yeah. What's that one sound like? Same thing. Whoa. It's basically, Hey! I got to ride. Hey! Let's go to Taco Bell. I got a funny video that I'll send to Jamie, and then we go watch it, because it was him last night. Because last night he hadn't gone out in like four hours, and there was thunderstorms outside. And when there's thunderstorms outside, he fucking freaks out. He freaks out like, I can't watch TV with him when there's thunderstorms. He just like, when we watch TV together, we sit on the couch, and we cuddle.
57:48So I sit like this, and he puts his head on my lap. What kind of dog is a golden retriever? Oh yeah. Sweetest dog of all time. But sometimes, I don't even hear it, you know, because I'm watching the movie. But all of a sudden, he'll just go, oh yeah. Yeah. Oh, he starts like spinning around. I started like, dude, chill out. And then he just jumps off the couch, jumps back on the couch, kisses me off the couch, back on the couch, like, oh yeah. So last night, Jamie, I just sent this to you. Last night, he had a pee. I'm like, I know you have to pee. It's like midnight. Come on, bro. Like look at this.
58:21He kept jumping at me. Oh yeah, he kept jumping at me. He's going to the pot. This is all just because of the lightning. Oh wow. Oh, I should for bass. He's shine bussy. When it comes to lightning, dude, please go clean. Go clean four hours. I love you too. Come to pot. He keeps jumping at me. He's just, all he does is just jump at me. You got a pee. I know it's not. But normally, he'd just go out and pee. 100 % the lightning was literally never does this wow, but he's wagon his tail He loves it. I mean he's excited right? He's does tails not between his legs, but he's just freaked out Maybe he's got the diarrhea, but he's afraid to start so he doesn't get electrocuted.
59:09Yeah Wow He wouldn't be I had to bring him back in the house. He just wouldn't not pee He just was just wanted to jump up and just freaked out. He wanted to make sure that I was okay I'm with him you're okay like he wants to be on top of you when the lightning's happening weird Yeah, he's just like who are we okay? I'm like we're okay like as long as I'm okay Yeah, it's okay. Yeah, we gotta get the fuck out of here like his instincts are like we're not supposed to be out in the open This is dangerous. Wait. How old is he seven? Oh, so you think by now he'd sort of have it figured out the way animals do Well, the thing is when he was young until he was I guess three Ish we moved here four years ago and he'd never really saw lightning Like very rarely do you see lightning in California?
1:00:06Yeah, you're right. I work here thunder. Yeah Very very very rarely do you have crazy storms? Yeah, the storms they have out here are fucking wild Yeah, some guy posted a video yesterday Jamie on Instagram of his car getting destroyed by hail In Texas like some insane like four inch hail chunks You see his windshield shattering his back windshield windshield windshield got blown out While he's driving. He's like this is saying he's watching his car just get destroyed It's rocks just rocks dropping out of the sky. Yeah, sometimes I think they actually puncture right through the roof like through the metal Oh, yeah, you got to think of how far if you got a four inch chunk of ice that's hurling from space Yeah, like it's basically in the clouds.
1:00:55Yeah, look at that. Oh Fuck dude, that looks like Jeff Kennedy's car. He had a convertible Yeah, it broke windows. Wow. Yeah, fucks these cars up. Whoa. He's fingering it a guy It's I wonder how many people get killed by hail every year. There's a good question looks like they got it What kills more staff or hail? I Don't know, but I know they say about I Think they say 12 to 30 people a year. This is for real yet killed by a falling coconut 150 well or 150 people a year 150. No. Yeah, I got up We were talking about like things that kill people, but they like inflate numbers like marijuana kills zero coconuts Falling on people's it's 150 people.
1:01:41We're not out long coconuts. Yeah, you know, I'm saying can you imagine getting killed by a coconut? It was suck. What a way to go. It's not good It's not good way to go especially if you're like an accomplished person. Yeah, everything's going great Like if Steve Jobs had gotten killed by a coconut or his little Rothersk, yeah, I must get killed by a coconut. Yeah, you would know what believe it like. Yeah, I made that coconut. Yeah, yeah, well Wild dangerous it according to the NOAA Since 2000 only four people have been killed by hail wow. Oh wow how many people could kill the year by lightning Let's guess okay 60 I'll say I don't know why I said 600 200 worldwide globally globally.
1:02:27Yeah, you're probably right 20 in the US 20 in the US Wow Every year. So what is a globally? Got a figure that Chinese are getting picked off by because they got billion, right? You got the odds are and they have skyscrapers the other one's got one of Kimmy Long. Why was gonna get it 24 ,000? Wow 24 ,000 a year. Yeah killed by lightning. Well, we were both way off. Wow Whoa, it was a lot less than I thought would be in America Yeah, 60 is what I thought in America Wow, have you ever been hit by lightning? No, but my friend Remi has Remi did he live? Yeah, he lived he was here on the podcast a couple days ago.
1:03:13Oh, oh, He got hit by lightning. I think when he was in high school. I think it made him deaf for a little bit I really fucked him up. Wow. Yeah, he didn't realize what happened. He just woke up on the ground and That a piece of together that he got hit by lightning Yeah, electronic charge going through the air Unbelievable. Have you seen what's going on right now in Where is it where there's these insides? You're going where is it where there's insane Lightning storms that are coming out of that volcano. Oh, yeah It's a different kind of light. Yeah, so it's the it's the the particles the charge particles that are being released by the lava ignites with the air somehow will get the Explanation the smoke so it's a different kind of light the steam that the particles get caught the steam the Translucent same lightning shows like look at this.
1:04:09Yeah Indonesia Yeah, but it was it's been going on like a lot lately like even during the day There's a lot of films on Tik Tok and and Instagram and stuff about it Bro, that is so bonkers. That mean if you were alive 5 ,000 years ago and you saw that you're like oh Satan. That's where Satan. Yeah, Satan's back Fuck he's back dude. I got news everybody. We're fucked man. Satan's back look look at the mountain Satan landed on the top of the mountain. He's there with lightning and shit like you just over home. Yeah, if you saw this You'd be like okay, that's where Satan is 100 % you think that's where Thor is.
1:04:50That's where the God of thunder is that's where the bells above lives Yeah, look at that what you would 100 % Sauron lives up there What you know I have Sauron people don't know that lightning comes up out of the ground too Did you know that Joe doesn't really yeah lightning comes people just think all lightning comes from and I'm not talking of Alcano I'm talking regular time so you could get it right There's you could get a bolt up your arse but for real He imagined you could just your nuts blasted by lightning or demetry how bad would that suck? Just be walking along in the field going wow, what a beautiful night bang from the ground.
1:05:29Yeah, it's true right to your sack Yeah, do you have any pictures of that Out to your head Three balls out to your head. Yeah Just cooked Never be the same again cooked What's that noise you do? The nuts like you gotta think the electricity's going through the ground in your nuts and like out the top of your head Just imagine your whole body like captured by this lightning Through It would be like stepping on a land mine, but you didn't blow up you just it just can't look at that I'm out of the ground lightning trailing from ground to clouds in slow motion now wow That's insane. It's like an etch a sketch People don't really know these things and that's why it's important you have me on the show I'm really glad twice a month type of deal.
1:06:28I'm really glad you're here for this Yeah, how cool that looks in slow motion. That's what's really happening Fuck that's right out of the ground. That's as big as any lightning strike. You'll see coming out of the sky God damn that's amazing. Yeah That looks a lot like the meat tree. I gotta say a little branches And this is on slow motion look how quick those little branches flicker off in the corners in the size I looks a lot like the meat trees alter salmon by the way. I bet yeah Just so we're clear Lightning is fucking cool. Yeah, that's one of the interesting things about living years We have these lightning storms you get to watch lightning.
1:07:04Yeah, Florida. I think it's one of the most lightning Lightning active places on the planet. Oh, yeah, yeah, Florida is like this is light care cancees in there Yeah, like if you're planning to trip to Florida now like Yeah, check that weather. Yeah, but it can be stunningly beautiful though I've been in scenarios where I've been in Florida at night and you got celery juice on me and You look out like two three miles out and there will be active storms going on in the cumulus right? the degenerative molecular charged Transfixiation particles are light are lighting up the clouds and it's like you're at a you're at a Judas priest concert Covered in mayonnaise.
1:07:52Got another thing And it's like all over Do you believe in the matrix? I? Don't disbelieve in it because if you ever want to have it I've got this chemically reversed inverse magnet magnetron camera and One of the things we associate with the matrix is what the numbers coming down in green So if you can take a picture think of it. Where does that exist in reality? But if you can go out on a stormy night like that rain coming down With your magnetized nitronic reverse camera and take a picture while lightnings flashing Think of it. What are what are rain drops? Water right, but not when you take them with an infrared Metronica camera.
1:08:43What are they then you'll see numbers in them in the rain? Yeah, if you believe in that stuff Well, the person got to believe in something. Do you believe in it? What the matrix? I don't disbelieve in it. You know, I can tell you that you've experienced it in real time. How can you do that? A little term Joe Rogan called Deja Vu Have you ever experienced Deja Vu? Yes, so think of it How can you be in a place that you've never been before? You're standing somewhere foreign somewhere new and all of a sudden your brain computes That you've been in this exact moment and it's undeniable Right how how is that happening?
1:09:29What's not really undeniable Well, it is undeniable because you're in it right? It's a it's probably a glitch in how you interface through reality Therefore glitch in the matrix. Well, it's probably how your brain's firing your brain has just like Brain is essentially just like a computer in a way like there's a lot of calculations are going on simultaneously a lot of sensors are being considered Different senses are affecting the way you view the world and I think it's very possible They you can have a situation where things just get a little wonky for a second and you think have I Done this before have I done it before?
1:10:06But how are you or or You have done it before and Every go time you do this you try to do it better And you live the same life over and over and over again until you get it right A lot of people believe that That's a good theory that plays into what I'm going for here. Yeah, I had a moment in time where I had deja vu I'm not going to say where and when because I don't want anyone to interfere with it But I've never told anyone this before I had a place in time where I was walking I was going under a bridge a Pigeon flew out okay, right a Child was laughing in the background You know like a child like he you know like a giggle a playground giggle And a red car went by and I was like I've been here before a place I'd never been So I documented the experience the time the place and I've gone back to that same place for nine years To the exact same place at the same time Check this out red car goes by bird flies out pigeon Kid laughing in the background But this year Something different happened that I'd never seen a feather Fell off of the bird when it flew out So check this out you say the feather Don't get ahead of me So the matrix must be real well hold on I Got this exam and I have a lot of friends in the science community I know a bunch of Scientologists and I had them analyze this Pigeon flew out here.
1:12:04I'm good This this is a feather from a great ock You know what that is? It's an extinct species of bird From South America Please that's okay. He's put it down. Well, I think you'd like to touch it. No, I'm good So how does an extinct species of bird drop a feather from a common pigeon? Who knows man That's it that's the animal looks like looks like that animal did really have feathers It did believe me and I'm holding one right here What extinct 350 years ago? Is that what it was?
1:12:45Matrix oh when from healthy to extinct in 350 years They probably taste delicious. They're probably stupid and they taste delicious. That's what happens The great ock Little cutie can that thing even fly? No, it sounds like a bullshit story if the How's that feather get there? Well, this is what I'm saying. This thing lives near the ocean the matrix You just found a feather that it floated off of the pigeon that for nine years Maybe not maybe it just was near where the pigeon was and it was flying through the air because someone had a ock Like taxidermy in the apartment building and that feather just kept drifting the way and just coincidentally as the pigeon was passing That feather was making its way Like oh my god look what fell off the pigeon and ancient extinct Ock feather but meanwhile was just someone was in an apartment building with taxidermy of the ock And they had the window open the fan on two Shay You never know Could could be magic though.
1:13:46I like what I'm hearing. Do you think this is the matrix? Like if this is a simulation what does it say about your choice? I'd like how you've chosen to exist in the simulation I don't know that we have a choice you don't think so well the matrix is numbers. It's mathematical So do we really have a choice? Did we have a choice that we were conceived? Did we have a choice that are we don't think we did right? Maybe we do or maybe it's inevitable You know, maybe there's just this mathematical cycle of atoms and protons and Molecules interacting with each other Yeah, just this is the way it's always going to go It's going to go this way the same way over and over and over again And the only thing different is that you Get to learn from your past mistakes at least some way in the essence of your being and do a better job of existing this next go around I don't know that we have to do a better job Well, I don't think we have a choice.
1:14:43I think evolution just takes us We're just hanging on to bears tapeworms at this point, you know Yeah, but if you live the same life over and over and over again you're gonna go through the same Nature interaction over and over again. It's not gonna be like a differently evolved world You're gonna live the same thing over and over again I give you thought about it like you and I how old do you? Wow I'm 56 how old do you 61 are you really yeah for real? Yeah, you look really good. Thank you. You do you look really good Except except the scars you're a little beat up Um, the world by a gr is we have gone through one of the weirdest lives You know, and if if the simulation is real and if you wanted If the simulation wanted you to go through the most profound changes the human beings have ever experienced In the time of their life just just in how people interface with the world you and I've done that Yeah, we we exist we're born in a time where there is no internet And you got your news from television and everybody had a sort of a limited understanding of the world You could bullshit your way through most things because nobody could google you Nobody could get a book on you You couldn't just run to the library and find out if Mike was telling the truth about his war stories Yeah, you had to just believe the microfiche things everything was possible Yeah, the world was a different place You know then there's answering machines and cell phones and then the internet comes along and now we're living in a Fucking insane world where AI's about to take over yeah, like if you were gonna pick a timeline to go through if it wasn't real And you wanted the most profound adventure.
1:16:22Yeah, you've chosen that yeah You've chosen the most profound changes that people will experience in A relatively safe timeline relatively safe in comparison to like the Ginghis con days or the You know the days of the Roman Empire like yeah, just relatively safe in comparison But profound changes for this moment. Yeah, and we're accelerating so rapidly Joe that Things are going to be at a whole nother level quickly where we're going to be looking in the rearview mirror and going Oh, yeah AI remember that yeah, there's gonna be something that takes us to the next level And and then another level after that we are going to transcend So far that I don't even know what humans and humanity looks like in a thousand years if not less Oh, not I don't think it's even 50 years.
1:17:16Yeah, that's what's crazy You and I are living through the weirdest time ever yeah because it started like we kind of had In high school for us. It was the Texas instrument calculator. Yep. Was the mind blower. Yep Then we got a fax machine like 15 years later insane and then we got The the laptop the home computer and then the internet and that was again like a decade in between yeah and cut to smartphones and it's been about what 15 years with them now yeah now AI and it's just like Everything's happening exponentially quicker. I remember I was on news radio with Dave Foley in the 90s Dave always he's a big You know computer internet technology is nut.
1:18:04He loves that stuff. Yeah And at the time he's the first person I ever met who had a laptop Okay, so he had a laptop back then was a one of those Mac laptops the Platt you know black plastic ones back in the day. Oh, yeah he had this app running in the background where it gave him constant news He's like look if I keep it connected to the internet it constantly gives me news. Yeah, I was like whoa You get your news from the internet. This is crazy. So it's like all the news stories of world events And so when I look back now and how we're just inundated like constantly inundated with like world conflict stories world events world problems World environmental crisis is world starvation world floods like world volcanoes with lightning like oh It's got you never fucking time.
1:18:53I remember that moment that very moment when I was looking at Dave's laptop and I was like wow The internet just gonna feed you the nose and did news in real time You don't have to tune into the news you don't have to go buy a newspaper. Yeah, this was like this profound Moment for me where I still look back at that day, and I thought that was the first time I ever saw like a baby A baby supercomputer. Oh, look to the baby the news And I brought it on a show called news radio crazy very Very hot. Yeah Yeah, I'm excited to see where Where it goes because I think the next The next evolution of this could be tractor beams.
1:19:34It could be particle movers. It could be You know as ridiculous as it sounds the transporter beam on star track. Mm -hmm. I feel like you know Maybe 50 years maybe a hundred years people are gonna look back and go wait you went to a place called an airport You got on a tube and flew 18 hours to Australia Like I think we're gonna be at a place one day where maybe they can rearrange our molecules and particles and be must I feel like if we can imagine it it's gonna happen. Yeah, I bet it's gonna happen I mean because think it's funny that star track figured that out Yeah, they didn't figure out computers and they didn't figure out cell phones.
1:20:16They had walkie -talkies remember Well, they had they had the communicator over Yeah, but it was a was a walkie -talks It wasn't got diarrhea something some pepped up. It's small. I'm eight. But it wasn't you couldn't both talk like if you and I were on a phone call Oh, yeah, it's up Harlan. Hey, it's up dude. It's not it's like hey Harlan. How are you over? Yeah, and there was no video component Yeah, those idiots didn't have face down. They got to get back to the future didn't have nothing dumbasses Yeah, yeah, that's a twirling thing Look at that Like kaleidoscope and who knows what those buttons we even thought it doesn't even label I think I think I think I'm the beach I know what to do with it.
1:20:54I think it's an electric razor if you ask me I think it's straight bullshit. Yeah, I think it's a garage door opener. I like how it had to flip closed though Yeah, I love that about old phones when you can hang up. Oh, I love that Shut the fuck off you Yeah, like those razor phone's door. I remember I had one of those razor phones I thought I was James Bond. Yeah, you could express yourself with them No razor phone was the shit. Yeah, what did that one do? It was just this thin little beautiful piece of metal And it didn't it a terrible battery life Unfortunately, yeah, because most phones had insane battery life back then you get phone would last for days Right, you know, because like the phones now they just have so much electronics And this is this beautiful screen and high resolution is doing things you're playing games on it And you know you're taking pictures like your battery, you know, but still your battery's good for like a day That was this shit.
1:21:47I had one of those I thought I was in space Well, I also liked the little side saddle. Did you have the holster on your belt? I tried that I couldn't do it I felt like such a dork. Oh, it's coming from a guy. Where's a fanny back? Yeah, right? I knew you like to play with guns. You have guns. I don't play with guns, sir But this this phone right here for me was the fucking shit I could never imagine seeing somebody with one of those today I would be like what are you doing with that thing? But aren't they bringing the back? Debit everyone, but the new one is like a new phone. It's like a modern phone the new one folds.
1:22:22Yeah But it has like apps. It's essentially a regular phone. Yeah, but it does Close and it's real slim like look it looks pretty similar. Oh, I think I don't want Would you do it? I thought about switching to Android just because I don't like being trapped in the Apple ecosystem I don't like the idea of it, but Google does a lot of like really shady stuff with with Different things they do that I don't like and one of the things they do is Like if you look at what was their most recent Declaration They were talking about censoring things in a time of social problems remember that Jamie They they reserved the right to censor information under certain circumstances Had something to do with Google ads.
1:23:18Yeah There's This things that I don't like in terms of search results Curation because that's the thing that Google does that Robert Epstein has been working on for a long time Like showing that when you like say if you Google a presidential candidate right If you Google a candidate that's Democrat you'll get You know, especially someone who they want to win you'll get like a lot of positive stories that come up first And you have to go deep if you want to find something about corruption or accusations or anything like that But if you do Google or a public in it'll go right to that now I'm not saying this is just an example.
1:23:58I'm not saying you could find that But his research shows this and I'm doing a bad job of paraphrasing because they don't remember exactly what it said But essentially his claim was that incurating search results you can have an impact on elections incurating search results and putting positive things for the people that you want to be elected In the prominence of the search result if it's not an organic search result If you actually are curating it you can affect the way people feel about candidate and that will affect the election results Okay, and so that's an issue that's Google yeah, yeah, so I have an issue with that and Google is Andrew I agree.
1:24:33I hate that I also have an issue with the Apple walled garden And I think there's a lawsuit going on right now about that whether we're trying to get people to You know because of i -message and you know face time and all this stuff doesn't work on other phones All right, right, right face time does sort of but you have to take a few steps and that's a new thing A new thing is like if you face time someone on an android phone They have to take a few steps to do it. Okay. I wonder how that works. I've never tried that. Have you ever tried that? I haven't tried it. Let's try right now. Okay. I'm a face time Brian Simpson Okay, face time Brian Simpson.
1:25:07I'm in a face time. Oh Jay Simpson. Yeah, it gives you like a length to send him or something Okay, this is still alive Look at said it said I haven't seen oh Jay Simpson It's just yeah, it's answering questions What that thought it thought we're really asking Should reach out to them Is it it didn't give me a link to send Where's the link? I think it's up on the top like with the other buttons are no hold on So I didn't work so I have to how do I do it if I want to send him a text? Face time Brian Simpson Face time oh Jay Simpson. Okay, send That's a fucking piece of shit. Oh wow Was ready to hurt surrender car hold on be quiet for a second.
1:25:52Well shut the fuck up. Well Face time Brian Simpson Okay, all right. I said join my FaceTime. All right. I sent it to him. Let's see if it works So let's see what he has to do. Who's Brian Simpson? He's a hilarious stand -up comedian. It is performing tonight the comedy mother ship. Oh, oh, he Just released a special on that flick so that's amazing. Wow filmed at the mother ship. So it's uh it says invite sent We should call him and tell him what's going on who Brian yeah Okay, this is just holding me up here. It's not done Call Brian Simpson All right Hey, brother. It's Joe. I'm on a podcast right now.
1:26:51You're you're live on the podcast with Harlan Williams I we were talking about how uh apple keeps people from being able to use certain features like i message and FaceTime And I was saying that you can FaceTime someone that has an Android phone, but there's a bunch of steps they have to take I don't know how to do it. So we're trying to figure out how to do it. I'm gonna FaceTime you right now, okay All right, I'll FaceTime you in like two seconds. Bye Cool FaceTime Brian Simpson All right, I sent him join my FaceTime. Let's see how that works. So here it goes We'll see how this feature works Now, and I know all you Android dorks.
1:27:31I know that there's other shit that you could use to do this like what's app And I guess you could use Instagram, right Don't people use Instagram for video calls This is not so fluid. Yeah, if I wanted to FaceTime you because you're a little apple fanboy over there You're a little bootlicker. Hell yeah, yeah, um, I can just FaceTime you and it would work instantly see he's got this invite Yeah, this takes so long like it ruins the spontaneity about a fun FaceTime call a fun FaceTime call you're at a concert Dude, what's up look where we are? And ironically as initials are BS because this is BS bullshit.
1:28:11Yeah, this is like straight bullshit Would you ever shoot your cell phone like just to get your front of them like with a full high powered rifle Yeah, we should take them out to the range and shoot hard drives and cell phones. No, it's a good way to get rid of stuff Cheek boom 300 wind mag at 100 yards. Oh, it's amazing what it does to a cell phone Oh Do you line it up in a scope of course? Yeah, I can't see that far right how far accurate hundred yards Wow Yeah There's a video of it I think that didn't red band have a video Yeah, give her shot a machine gun Yes, and Elation It's kind of interesting.
1:28:55It's scary. It says I'm waiting to be let in. Oh, this piece of shit. Yeah, I forget it I'm gonna tell him forget it. Yeah Wait a minute. Where's it doing here? It says join is it working? Waiting for others. No, this is a more shit. It doesn't work I'm telling forget it brother So See that but this is the thing that people are complaining about yeah that it forces people to think you're a fool for having an Android phone So you just go out and get an iPhone and iPhones have dominated the market because of that yeah, so like I think the numbers are with young kids The numbers is like it's something like 80 something percent of kids have iPhones Yeah, the kids that don't have iPhones They get left out of iMessage group chats.
1:29:46Yeah, talk shit to Oh, you poor you got an Android phone. Yeah, it's a class thing. It's class thing. It's weird. It's a weird thing I don't like it. What do you think the evolution of cell phones already? I think it's like neuro -length where we we're just like yeah We're thinking Our communicative thoughts or what what's your thought on that? Yeah, 100 % or really? Yeah, that are awareable Maybe something that like you wear and it touches your temples right because the concept that we're we're like this goes back So I was saying about flight mm -hmm like wait you guys carried these boxes around and yeah, held them to your head Yeah, well, I mean just this alone was magic a hundred years ago If you brought this a hundred years back people think you're the craziest wizard Oh, yeah, I have the answers to all questions.
1:30:33Yeah, and they would say oh my god people in 2024 must be so smart And then he comes to 2024 to like a maggot convention. Yeah, you see Robert's in here. We get yelled at it Like doing a fucking press conference He'll never leave Yeah, like what is this is he pointed this is to I don't know But this is people in 2024 whereas if you gave this to people in 1924 there'd be like there's no way Everyone will have the world solved once they have these oh my god Then they have all the information and then people will know exactly what everybody looks like. There'll be no more catfish. Okay, awesome And now like there's filters that you could use where I From just a small snippet of your conversation on this podcast I think they need about 30 seconds 30 seconds of your voice and then I Could pretend to be you like just talk like this and the audience would see you with what you're wearing the way your hair is everything In your voice so everything that I say like me saying this right now.
1:31:32Yeah, it would be you saying this right now Your voice your face your body everything looks like you all through AI Whoa, so there's no fucking way to to know what anybody is saying that's not true And then there's a big issue right now with celebrities especially women. They're making porns with them Oh, they're they're they're they're just changed super imposing like like celebrities face on With AI so this porn stars having sex with this person you face swap Natalie Portman or fucking So I can lean a joley and now you have a real Realistic looking sex tape of famous people getting fucked so I could see judge Judy plow on the face of the Just sucking cock like it's going out of style.
1:32:22Wow the closing sale Wow, imagine imagine Judy Dent in a pool boys video remember the from the the The British actress I do not M from What's her name? Judy Dentch bench Dentch. Oh there she has imagine her in a pool boy. Oh, she was young. No, I mean now, but look at her She's so pretty imagine her rubbing chlorine all over a pool boy time is a ruthless bitch, isn't it? She puts the net over his head. I'm trying not to imagine. I'm trying to power through this She's 89 years old give the woman her do give her her respect son of a bitch. How about I give her a check for clean in the pool Wow getting stuck in the dryer.
1:33:08Whoa, I'm looking for something I can't pull me pull me pull me pull me I can't get out pull The dry is my favorite you've stuck in the dryer porns are my favorite because it's so ridiculous You can get out of the dryer like anyway. I love it when they told her when they pulled her head out And there's a cling -free sheet on their head Yeah They got a mouthful of lint looks like they've been blowing an elf I was tucking here. Thank you for saving me. You know what I tried the dryer sex once and I accidentally I was so impassioned I hit the tumble cycle. Oh wow and so imagine being in your woman And she starts swirling around and you're holding on like a horse a rodeo horse That's it was some of the best sex I've ever had.
1:33:56Did you stay still while she spun? That would be the moon. I just held on to her to her muffin top And we swirled around like did you get any concussions? She did Yeah, holy god banging around there. Oh her head came out. She looked like this Cauliflower but I had one of the best orgasms I've ever had in my life. That's a one -time deal right? It's hard to really to do in that again. Well Women like adventure Yeah What's the weirdest place you've ever Done it your house That was you Wow Thought I heard that dog growling under the bed Yeah, I was doing it under the bed while you were on top of bed to sleep.
1:34:41Okay, pre -marriage because I don't want to get in trouble Where was the wildest place we were only 15 remember? Yeah, where'd you do it? Wildest place I guess in the woods We're kids there was nowhere to go She'd go in the woods one time. We got eaten up by mosquitoes like our whole body Both of our bodies is covered in mosquitoes. Yeah, we're so retarded. We got naked in the woods Yeah in July in Massachusetts Wow Yeah, but you're fucking 17. Yeah, you're doing you're crazy. Yeah wild kids a lot in the woods Yeah, well there was always Woods were always there. Yeah, there's a place when you were kids you could just go to the woods Yeah, just bring a tower blanket or something Just love it.
1:35:21Yeah, but the woods are scary because anything in the woods is scary Things in the woods become scary even if they're not scary anywhere else like a baby a naked baby in the woods Just staring at you. It's fucking terrifying Yeah, no other place where a naked baby is scary like a if you walk it out of the street You see a naked baby like oh my god whose babies this. Yeah, does anybody knows babies? Yeah, hold on you know, and then you'll call the police you pick up the baby in the woods like I'm gonna die. It's a fucking naked baby. Just staring at us if it's hanging upside down from a you know red pine Staring at you.
1:35:55That's pretty creepy. Yeah holding on by its feet. Yeah, like a bag If you saw a baby in the woods just staring at you you'd be fucking terrifying. Yeah any other place But baby so the woods are automatically scary. Yeah, it's you're scared that you're gonna get caught That's exciting We're not gonna get caught. Don't worry. We're gonna go deep in the woods What about the city though? You ever do it in a crazy place in the city? Yeah, not really you Sears you ever going to sewer you ever going to a manhole. How little fire in a farris wheel once really? Yeah Oh, yeah You were gonna let me at the bottom and wouldn't be well that was was cool We we would we would time it So that when we when we came down was like hands off and then we'd swirl So it was like kind of this really fun sort of start and stop thing And then one time I'm not kidding the guy sort of recognized me And we were having for the guy here the carny who ran it like when I got I was oh dude I love you right and so we were having so much fun But we weren't finished and so it's weird he was letting it Everyone off I said just leave us on just please said you go.
1:37:03Okay. I got in we just like Finish swirl up. Yeah. Yeah, congratulations. Do you ever do it in the swirling teacups at Disney Land Imagine if you did how boy imagine throwing it up like right when you come oh I feel amazing Because even though throwing up sucks it feels amazing when you have to throw up and you finally do Purging. Oh, you know that feeling like last time I threw up was about a year ago And it was in the middle of the night. I got up and I was like I feel like I'm gonna fucking puke I just I didn't feel good going to bed and in the middle of the night I was like whoa and I woke up and I got Went to the bathroom to pee or throw up and I was like oh boy.
1:37:43They might both happen at the same time Oh, and I held the pee Yeah, just like yeah, yeah, and then I peed right over my throw up. I don't give a fuck dude. Wow That's a wild wow I didn't even about a match. I just pissed on the throw up much just left it. Yeah, you're right turn Just a little throw up. Did you do the thing when you barfed like right after you just curled up on the bathroom floor in the fetal position And felt the cool tiles on your naked skin. Never done that me either I do lay down on the bathroom floor sometimes when I get out of the sauna though. Oh, yeah, because this tile floor Like right when you get out of the sauna.
1:38:23It's 185 fucking degrees or whatever it is. Yeah I like to lay down that cool. Can you do the ice soaking? Yeah, I mean inside my house Inside my house. I have one outside too. I'd love to come over later and sit in it with you. Yeah, hang out We got one here. We got one here. I'd rather do the one at your house. I think then you We can have dinner too. Okay. What do you want to sleep over? I want mine. I bet you do Well, we're gonna work out in the morning. No You can you get the cold plunge? No, I'd sit nice cream in a hot day the cold plunge feels good for about five seconds Yeah hot day you get in there like oh Oh fuck I jumped in Lake Superior once and It was one of those things.
1:39:11I probably stayed in about five minutes And I've never experienced it but when I got out for about 40 minutes after I was shaking Like it was so cold here's a question Lake Superior massive lake used to have glacier, right? Yeah, okay Biggest to the Great Lakes most of North America at one point in time least half of North America was covered by like a mile high Sheat of ice okay, right? So you have this time period after the ice age where all that melts How the fuck do the fish get in there? Yeah, how the fuck did those fish get in there? It's a mystery That's a really good question how those lake trout get in there in the middle of the country Yeah, this big ass giant lake trout how the fuck did they get in there?
1:39:56What did they just evolve once the water melted yeah where they're Where they're seeds of the fish and the ice waiting to be melted for real though. Yeah, that's all ice Yeah, the fish ain't getting in there How do they get in the middle of the lake the lake is fucking huge. It's filled with fish. There is a possibility It's an extreme one, but I'm trying to answer your question That a predatory bird like an osprey or a gall or some kind of fish eating bird Flies from the ocean Caught a fish in a local river or a nearby lake A Jason to where are those nearby lakes if the entire continent is covered in ice?
1:40:39Yeah Well, have you ever been to a a like a farm or anything like that and sometimes they have those Water troughs that they leave out for the cows But they've been abandoned You you come to a place where there's like a little puddle in a field or something right and somehow there's fish in it And there's there's there's noots and there's aquatic creatures and you go how how did they get here? How did a newt get up and aluminum Ben and get down into this ecosystem that's evolved here. It's fascinating And your question kind of raises the questions for all of creation It's it's it's we can look at evolution.
1:41:24We can look at at the dawn of time But it's it's really is it ever been answered Not totally I mean they don't have an exact time by time like day by day timeline but Do they have an answer to how fish got into the great lakes? I can't believe I never asked that before I never even thought of it before Well, this is a huge body of water of course, there's fish in there But if the whole content was covered 10 ,000 years ago in ice what the fuck happened? Well, you might have to say okay somewhere there was a tributary that came from the ocean No, it would be from north it would be from up north right but where the fish down from that Hudson's Bay Down into superior and the ocean fish Maybe they probably swim up river from the warm areas Well, that's what salmon do yeah about they swim up area that makes the most sense We got in those lakes.
1:42:18So those lakes must be connected to rivers, right? Oh, yeah, I have to be so I'll are They probably swim up into the lake and then evolve to become like these big lake creatures like Lake trouts. Yeah Because lake trouts are fucking huge lake trout can get huge. Oh man. Yeah people ice fish them Yeah, that's like a big way of it. It's they're fucking crazy looking yeah, so that thing you don't really find Them I mean in the southern areas, right? Those are in northern fish, aren't they lake trout? Yeah They're sort of a deep water really cold fish. They don't necessarily have to be way up north right?
1:42:54So if they evolved so these lake lakes and streams from the lower part of the country Yeah, right? So if you're talking about like New Mexico or some places. Yeah, what some area that wasn't covered in ice These things swim all the way up the river and then they evolve in this lake to become bigger and to become adapted to the cold deep water Different species. Yeah, it's crazy. This is the mystery of crazy where we are Yeah, and this how about sturgeon where they're like Fuckers come from these things are what the thousand pounds or more huge monsters. They look like dinosaurs prehistoric Yeah, they look prehistoric have you ever seen that thing that's in the the Amazon that has it has essentially bulletproof scales Yeah, the black what it's called I've seen papaya.
1:43:40Yeah, what's up Jim? Well just This the way the fish got into the Great Lakes is a way deeper store than I've uncovered so far, but the way Sam and got there Specific spawn in these people brought them there. Yeah, I had to bring them there. Mm -hmm. That makes sense fishing became very popular back then So a lot of dead fish swimming like on the shores for some reason. I was trying to find out But were there any fish in there before the salmon? That's the there had to have been that's I was trying to first asking it I've no I've seen this image recently like the depth of lake superior specific holy shit very deep I've fished out like 333 feet fuck so there could maybe yeah, then something under there Waiting for the ice to melt that came back up There's a bunch of stuff saying what he said to was like a fish eggs get dropped by other birds and end up in the water.
1:44:30Mm -hmm I gotta think the river has a lot to do with it, but that was so there was this is like you can't go up Niagara Falls Mm -hmm. That's true. Right? You can go. Yeah, good point Jamie That's a very good point right how the fuck does it get past those god damn it What a mystery. Yeah, this is we've maybe cracked or uncovered one of the biggest mysteries in humankind and no one's talking about it buddy Yeah, isn't that credible? Yeah, I got a showed up busted it out. Wow. We're the ones who are the ones Imagine tomorrow like front page every newspaper Harlan Williams and Joe Rogan pose serious question as to how Fish got in the Great Lakes and scientists are baffled and they also are talking to us coming to us like how did you guys?
1:45:16Realize that fish had to get into the Great Lakes when the Great Lakes used to be covered in a glacier Yeah, you guys are geniuses untouched geniuses of nature Yeah, and then maybe when Trump gets in for a second term He appoints us to some sort of a nature advisory board and we give uh we can be the master ecthologist Yes, we can be the people telling everybody how to fix all these problems with animals and people and but see Here's the other layer of this lasagna that we're not talking about you're talking about Lake trout right how about the Lake Superior probably has 60 70 different species of fish I fished lakes up here.
1:45:53I've got white fish. I've got Lake trout There's all kinds of fish in there right how they get in there by the way I used to work on the shores of Lake Superior and there's a plate you'd like this because I know you like bears and you like guns and you like There's a Believe it or not there's a place on the shores of lakes appear called nays provincial park Whereas such a desolate place In a world war two they had a German Nazi prisoner of war camp on the shores Whoa, and the prisoners it was so remote no one could escape because they would have gone into the Canadian wilderness But the German soldiers captured somehow a black bear and trained it to box They put boxing gloves on it and the Nazi soldiers For entertainment purposes would box with this black bear Jesus Christ and they and they sunk a whole bunch of of wartime vehicles in in Lake Superior.
1:46:49Wow. Yeah How many bodies you think of in Lake Superior? I don't know, but they might be preserved. It's so cold That's what I'm thinking if you went down yeah, if you dropped them all the way the 1 ,300 feet just as creepy skeleton with his 1970s genes on Well, he might not even be a skeleton. That's what I'm saying. It's so cold He might still have flash and just be like your baby in the woods just like hi Joe Would you like some cauliflower? Don't you think something would eat them? Uh, maybe more a lamprey eels this thing's alive down there. The lamprey never seen a lamprey Saltwater creature no fresh water.
1:47:28They're in Lake Ontario. Oh really? Yeah, I know they're they're cleaned the back bottom of sharks a lot right They feed off of what those are remoras. Oh, that's right. More as by the way similar to a lamprey is one of the more horrific It has a round. It's like an eel with a round suction cup with circular like buzz saw teeth It affixes itself on the fish and slowly sucks their interiors out Jesus Christ look at what if that was in a movie You would say oh my god. Yeah, glad that's not real. Yeah, that's like dune right? That's like the worm and dune There is a movie what's a call? Let me see that one where they dudes holding it again.
1:48:05That's so creepy. Yeah, the lamprey Fucking mouth man. Well, what's what's amazing is it sucks your insides out and slowly eats you alive So it pulls the skin apart and then just sucks out no it literally creates a hole Look at biting that dude's hand. Yeah, it puts a hole in the fish and just stays a fix to the same spot And eats its insides out. They're older than dinosaurs. Yeah, now they're in there in Lake Inal if the great lakes That's crazy how the fuck did they get in there? So that's uh want to attach to a fish. Yeah, that's on a lake trout right there Can you show me that fix the photo?
1:48:42Oh, so that's the hole where it was uh, no, that's it hanging See invasive. Oh, those are the ones hanging. Yeah, and then see the hole You can see a hole where one let go and they just they just click on that link. Please consume the fish where they from originally It says it's an invasive species. I don't know. Maybe the Amazon. Does it type? Wow Right, right, but where they from it says it's invasive It's a sea lamprey. Yeah, they're in the great lakes the sea Sea ramping is invasive and it can cause problems in the local ecosystems So I'd do with its size. Sea lamprims are big compared to native species.
1:49:21So it comes from the ocean somehow or another And they can live in the in fresh water. That's crazy Well, apparently the girl I think her name's Maria Bell was the first person to ever swim across Lake Ontario And she had to swim through schools of those apparently When she swam across Lake Ontario. Oh my god. Imagine those little fuckers Oh, yeah, I'm a hulier asshole Yeah, they're the perfect they almost got assholes suckers for mouths. Yeah, like they're perfect Jesus hate to see Demetri around one of those So in the 19 fishes us and Canada teamed up for population control measures and they have worked several strategies including traps to capture adult Lamperies Lampersides poison target sea lamprey larva and installing barriers or few tactics to use.
1:50:12So they're gonna working Was this it That's a good thing left multiple I see lamprey's significant damage to the region's seven billion dollar fishing industry Huh Lampries yeah creep you little fuckers. Yeah, and then the Ramora Yeah, where that thing is the Ramora has a suction cup on its head So the top of its head Is a suction cup look at that And I was sexually assaulted in Florida. I had been eating a bacon sandwich and spilled some on my lap and went swimming and that thing Sucked me for about an hour and a half Look at that top of its head. Well, someone's not paying attention. I'm paying attention Why does sexual assault and you glazed your eye didn't believe you well?
1:50:57It lasted too long I can show you the suck my like 30 seconds. I said oh my god that thing clung to his leg for 30 seconds But I maybe I wanted to last remember you're talking to the dryer sex guy here right the guy with the the baby Do you know that the Spanish is a sucker fish latches to swimmer? Whoa Let's just hot But you know the Spanish fisherman you know, there was a time when you could eat sea turtles right and the Ramora Will swim to whatever's moving because they feed off of the they're like they're like parasitic fish when the shark eats They'll catch all the right all the scraps so Spanish fishermen They're to their ingenuity they used to eat sea turtles and when they'd catch a Ramora They'd keep it alive in the boat and when they saw a sea turtle They'd put it on their line throw it in the water This Ramora's would go to the sea turtles stick on the shell and they'd reel in sea turtles.
1:51:54It used to be able to eat them Yeah, that's how they get now you're making this up. No, that's for real. This was this was in the past They clung to the sea turtle and that's how they pulled this they used it like a magnet Right. Yeah, you saw the size of the sucker on its head, right? So it would stick to the sea turtle and then they can in essence Pull in the yeah, see there's Yeah, so if you want to go fishing for sea turtles later let me know that's crazy. Yeah Some good suck and going on in the ocean they should take the sea turtles and flip them on their back and put them in the bottom of the ship And then when they wanted to eat one they just pick it up because if you flip them on their back they can't turn over So they just lay there yeah, and they could stay alive for a long time without food or water.
1:52:35Yeah, because they're air -breathers Yeah, so you just leave them in there. So you leave one yeah throw a leave over it pick it up It's like fresh food. I've seen a bunch of videos of people cooking and eating sea turtles in other countries Because there's like some cooking show or fishing show or some guy went with them And you're not allowed to do it, but you can be there while people are doing it You know if you're an American you're not allowed to kill sea turtles But in some parts of the world like their local culture you know like in some like some places yeah, Enuids are allowed to eat whale they can kill whale that can kill walrus seals all that stuff So these people are allowed to kill sea turtles, but there's something like really disturbing about watching a sea turtle get hacked apart Yeah, cuz they're so gentle.
1:53:17I know and they're so like what is happening? Yeah, they're just like little dummies A fish I got fish fish is just like their eyes don't move that good They just move around a little like you're so removed from me. I'm gonna cut your head off and serve you this sweet I was just in the Galapagos island swimming underwater with sea turtles holding their flippers Also so sweet that's cute also sea turtles kind of seem tough, but turtles are always good guys Yeah, in movies and like ninja turtles. They're the good guys. Yeah, right? There's like turtles are like your friend. Yeah, they're buddies.
1:53:53Yeah, they're your wise pal the turtles never cuts It's never really a country turtle In like movie depictions. Yeah, do you think of a country turtle?
1:54:05God, I remember that giant turtle that fought Godzilla and he like fire There's your go fly. He's dead around. What was his name? country no, I don't think so well But like turtles that's like one of those things that happens with people. That's why people like love bears Because you have teddy bears Yeah, you have teddy bears and you know you got yogi and you know Only you can prevent for as fires all that stuff like well bears your friends. They're sweet Yeah, and it's what a great PR campaign these murderous assassins have pulled off Yeah, getting us to like reintroduce them into areas where people are like They're monsters big ass monsters.
1:54:46Yeah with a good PR campaign polar bears a leech a fast to them. No Do anything else here's a here's a fact owls are dumb I thought they were wise. I did too. I talked to a woman who trains birds And she had all these different birds had hawks and paragogen falcons and all she said owls are the dumbest There's only one animal dumber than them. That's one of those big animals one of those big birds rather That's dumber than them when the big birds from Australia. What are those things called? That's it that that one's dumber really? The only animal that's dumber than an owl. She's like owls are so dumb I thought they were wise I had one going outside of my house about two weeks ago.
1:55:28Keep them me awake all night And I'm like how do you deal with the wisest of all the birds right? So I go outside I throw a rubix cube up into the tree It comes back 30 seconds later perfectly done. So I don't think they're that dumb I had to be an autistic kid living in your tree Johnny I'm trying to sleep come down Johnny He's up there counting out loud So check this out Joe He's not doing long math in his head. He's up there eating celery 5 ,000 divided by 16. He's a beautiful mind Throw it back to you. He keeps going on with his math. I did I did do a movie once where I played a wizard and I had a Eurasian eagle owl.
1:56:25I think they're the biggest of all the owls And they trained it to land on my arm on the big leather glove. Yeah, and I'd never worked with owls up close like that and the trainer He was sitting like this with his talons And the trainer said grab the back talent and pull it And I said well, I don't want to hurt the thing. You know, I see he said no pull it So I I grabbed the back and I you know, I gave it a tug and it didn't move and he goes no pull it as hard as you can And you know, these are these big claws. I grab it. I could not Move it and he goes this is what an owl's death grip feels like when it clanks on to something.
1:57:05It's over I could not believe the strength In in that talent. It was crazy. Yeah, I mean the raptors. Yeah, they're just wild They're claws when you see an eagle's claw when they give you a close -up and you know, it's like a human hand But with spears of the fingers But I didn't understand the strength of the strong just like much stronger than your hands. Yeah. Oh, yeah Well, imagine what they do when they just snatch a salmon out of the water and fly away with it I tried it. Yeah That's insane. I mean that is straight up dinosaur tools Yeah, that's crazy and look at all the texture to it. Yeah, all the muscles and tail up What a monster and way more powerful than you would you would think just by looking at it.
1:57:50Oh, yeah I actually that the if you look at the claws of the osprey look at that owls those are fake That's he's got two hands, bro. That's real. No, those are no way that's the wise owl. That's the real wise owl that can't be I don't know He reads books with those yeah, he's up there in the tree reading books Oh, yeah Yeah, look up to the internet But I was so shocked that owls are dumb. Yeah, why did Look at those claws. Is that the Eurasian eagle owl? Oh my god Great horned owl look at those things. That's so amazing. That's what took my Chihuahua Did really yeah, I had a Chihuahua and one of those bastards because they're big too.
1:58:37Oh those are fairly big So we get a lot of cats imagine my little Chihuahua getting picked apart by that I I Have a friend and he was telling I think Stephen L. was telling us on the podcast wasn't about the like they found this one owls nest Then it's filled with like cats little colors. Oh wow. Yeah, it's like 30 different cat colors. Oh, yeah Yeah, that's the fun man. They just snatching cats out of people's back. Yeah, like they said it's a happy yeah Do I have red? God gone You hear if you hear this if you're who And there you ever heard like the difference between the sound and owl makes when it flies they've done like these Like with they record the noise.
1:59:24There is no sound. It's insane. It's silent when you see an hawk do it or you will do it There's always different different birds have noise in the now. It makes like no fucking the aerodynamics of an owl. They're like stealth bombers Just silent you know the other wild one is tuna when tuna goes through the water They can go through the water to grab someone and and grab something and they don't even make a ripple Like when they go over the wall. It's crazy. I watch video of it. It's bizarre when they jump Yeah, no when they're going through the top of the water. Oh, I slide through like a night.
1:59:57Yeah So that's a hawk. Yeah I know I was the owl. It's Kansas too Nothing silent silent silent nighttime killer the dumbest shit big stupid head with giant eyes dumbie shit Just fucking killing everything again Are they not that dumb are they gonna be dumb murdered on a woodpecker? I think woodpeckers are way smarter really I don't know what about a blue hair? I don't think you'd train a woodpecker So this lady probably has a limited database to work with everything like she's got on her arm It's like a raptor except for the owl like the like the falcons. She said the hardest Hawks and falcons she goes they just kill everything You let them go they just go find things they'll kill squirrels They just they just can't stop killing okay, she goes these these things just like they're killing machine Yeah, she'll let them go they just find things and kill it like immediately Find a bird kill it fly up to the bird kill it they come back to her But they just go kill things first.
2:01:05Oh, this is a trained yeah, yeah, this is what they're all trained But it doesn't matter like if you let a hawk go hawks just go find something to kill yeah like what what I got to kill They just fly around like what oh bird yeah boom dead. Yeah, not even trying to eat it squirrel. Fuck you Bam kill that squirrel so sport killer sport killing really they're just designed to kill because not a lot of animals do that Some animals can't help themselves lions do it to hyenas. Yeah, but I bet that lion did it to that lady in that car I bet she wasn't eating that I bet that was a little bit of sport There's another old video where some like Danish guys going through a lion safari with his wife and kids And he got out he was with his camera And literally the kids and the wife you see them in the car going berserk and his legs are kicking in the air and the lion Just came into voward of right in front of the wife and kids Like the idiot got out Some people are just fucking stupid.
2:02:02Yeah, that's Darwin right yeah, that's that's the whole idea is like those people are not supposed to make it Yeah, you're not supposed to make it but they've already breed bread. That's a problem Yeah, at least the kid has the benefit of seeing his dad get like my dad was so dumb like you know You can have a dumb dad and get through things and be a different person than your dad was And if you're a dumb kid and your dad is dumb as shit your dad gets out and gets eaten by a lion in front of you That has a profound effect. I gotta be honest though Not even saying that kid's dumb or that you know, maybe the kids are genius.
2:02:34Yeah, you could be you could have a genius kid be stupid I gotta be honest though Joe in this world we live in where you know humans expire primarily You know in a hospital bed or at home and round their loved ones With a disease with whatever cancer right I Really would rather die like jumping a lion Like you know at the family function how do you die he attacked a lion you went out on his shield huh? Yeah, you went out on your shield Yeah, yeah, like I want to know bull the death of like like a warrior right yeah And I'll go back to that story. This is gonna sound ridiculous No way yeah But going back to the story where I told you I saw the lion when my hand was shaking There was that terrified part of me.
2:03:31This is for real. There were two male lions. No one else in the middle of Africa Part of me wanted to jump out of the truck and just run it the tie the lion and attack it Knowing that I die but knowing that it would be the most glorious death of a a man with courage or stupidity But at least I would die in a fashion where Spectacular way in the real world organic nature man versus beast beast versus beast because I don't like to think of us as superior to other creatures But it just that actually popped into my head. I thought I don't want to I don't want to expire in the leukemia ward. I don't want to be a hospice right I've lived a good life.
2:04:21Yeah, so imagine I just run it a lion And that last moment I get to see the shock in its face of a human Daring to jump on it and grab it's yeah, and they would have been on me in a second, but I don't know is that weird no like if you ever thought how you want to die well if you're gonna die Yeah, you know, especially if you're older and you know it's soon What do you say just run at that line? Would it if you ever thought about that? No Would you would you be fine just expiring in a hospital bed like yeah, that's better than being torn apart in front of your family Yeah, I'm not saying do about that family other people that are there with you Not for under your family, but if you just have to get one at one moment like to take you to the line Let's say you're out hunting a gris No one day you just go you know what you put the rifle down and you just run out of them and go Hmm.
2:05:17This is how I want to go Punching punching a gris in the face no one you're gonna die, but you go out in that That wild punching a gris in the face is like an ant punching you Yeah, like being attacked by a kitten with no claws. It is like but you get that moment of being a man Of feeling that power. No, you'd rather just that's a stupid way to have a heart attack. Yeah Okay, yeah, that's a stupid way to die. Well I mean, it's one thing if you get attacked by an animal when you're out in the woods right It's like hey, this is the price you pay for being in nature, but see that's a thing you're ever they attack That's why can't we attack them now flip it around okay?
2:06:01I like you yeah, okay, maybe I'm even inviting you to come with me to do it If you ever find out that you're gonna die and that's how you want to go I'll go you can't go with me Yeah, definitely I'll bring a right phone case to change your mind You wouldn't like if you like as you're running like George is my mind boom. I'll have my cross hairs on him You wouldn't run to the animal with me. No, no, I'll be there to watch I'm just showing me to You know, I love that okay. It'll be a special moment with share I'll be there when you pass over into the next stage of what and but you got to do me a favor.
2:06:35Yeah, if like Heaven's real if like there is an afterlife or whatever it is just let me know. Oh, I will come back and tell me Come in a dream tell me in a dream. Yeah If you've got a dream of someone who died and it seemed like super realistic Oh Yes, I think I have what was it it might have been my dad Oh, yeah, I just I just remember being really sad like he's gone and there was like this wave of emptiness Because my mother did die and are your parents still with us? Yes so When my mother died like this whole formed in my heart like it literally felt like a hole And it can't close like I can come to peace with it.
2:07:22I can yeah I can be at harmony with the fact that she's gone, but and I wasn't even super close with my mom But the whole that got left in my heart is like whoa I can if I focus on it I can feel it immediately And it's that that just that connection to the mother that the person that brought you into this world You know is really really powerful and so in the dream what happened with your dad? I can't remember its foggy what I remember more than the actual moments is that feeling that feeling of emptiness that oh They're they're gone, you know just Gone forever and and it was really Sort of this sad crushing feeling on my soul It's it's powerful.
2:08:09I had a dream after Phil Hartman died. Oh and it wasn't that long after his death and in the dream I ran into him and it was very realistic Because we were outside and he had like one of those folding lawn chairs and it was on the ground and I said I said hello and He was explaining to me that him and his wife had worked it out You know this is after his wife killed it. Yeah, you know you were right there too, right? I wasn't there when it happened No, but you were yeah work in the show and it happened right yeah, yeah, yeah She's He laughed about it like yeah, we had a lot to work through like but we're good now Something along those lines and then he sat down on the lawn chair and like fell backwards like it stumbled backwards And then I looked and he was gone It was really weird Because then I realized it was a dream and then I woke up But I remember thinking like in the moment that seems so realistic like he was like telling me he's okay because I tried to get him to divorce that lady A bunch of times really it's working with him.
2:09:25Yeah, because he would they would fight like crazy fights where he would just Disappeared for a couple he would leave the house and and he was telling me wanted to get divorced But he did want the lawyers to take a third because it's like I was like just Half no, no, no, the it's two thirds. So the lawyer takes a third This is what he was telling me it's like I go just give her half. You're always gonna make money Just get out be free just be here, you know, and he was terrified of that He was terrified of leaving and so when he finally decided to leave she murdered him in his sleep She shot him and then she shot herself and my friend was actually my friend who was a cop was actually there when she shot herself Oh, so that happened when the police approached the house.
2:10:04Yes. Yes. Oh wow Yeah, the police broke into the house to try to save the kids and she shot herself The kids ran away from their mom. He told me so he too He told I hadn't done I hadn't done stand -up in two weeks after the murder. I was just yeah I just couldn't imagine anything being funny And then I decided two weeks later to try to go to the comedy store So I'm at the gas station and while I was at the gas station my friend who was a cop was there And I was like hey, what's up? How are you doing? He goes like hey, how are you doing? You good? I go yeah, he goes, you know, I was there I go really and then he told me the whole story about how he was there And they saw the the mom in the bathroom with the gun And the kids ran away from the mom when the cops broke down the door because the cops saw her with the in the bathroom with the gun Yeah, and a lot of times in murder suicides the mother will kill her children.
2:10:54Yeah, of course Yeah, and so they were she was in there with the gun talking to the kids and the kids freaked out And then when they broke down the front door the kids ran away from the mom and she just blew her brains out The only good side is they didn't see her do that. I'm guessing I'm hoping it didn't say that there's no good side. I mean there's no good side You lose your mother and your father in a murder homicide in one night and you're like what You mean there's no good side with your intuition like obviously you were advising Phil to get away. Yeah Was there ever a four -site in your head that she would murder him?
2:11:31Wow, no, no, no, no, no, that's funny how we just don't know But first of all she was also on Zoloft and cocaine and the family won some sort of a settlement with Zoloft um Not much, but you There's instances where people mix Zoloft with cocaine that they have psychotic reactions. Yeah, and I suspect that's what was going on And she was actually they hated each other They love they loved each other and they hated each other You know, it's one of those deals like she would insult him publicly It was it was rough man and you know I was just saying like you're a great guy like you don't need to be going through this Yeah, like you need to get divorced and have you know share custody your kids and and try to set an example And just not you can't do this like the fighting was so bad it was And he hated it.
2:12:27He didn't want to be married to her. He was he was stuck And I told him like you can't just stay stuck and just let these circumstances over Your existence. Yeah, you no matter how hard it is you have to push through so we had a break We were done filming for a bit to we went back for the next season and One day I woke up and someone called me and told me and then I saw on the news and it's just like what and then everybody was calling everybody and we all got together We're like fuck It's just so hard to believe it doesn't make sense. It's like yeah, how Was he your buddy like were you friends with him off set like did you jump around and stuff?
2:13:10Yeah, he actually took me up in his plane once To find where I wound up buying a house because I was he goes one of the cool things about flying It's like I can show you because he had just got he had gotten his pilot license while we were on the show together Yeah, and the ink and so he was always practicing that he bought One of these single engine plans. It was pretty cool And so he said you want to come up for a flight a flight. I'll show you around Like yeah, let's do it and so we flew around the valley and showed me all these different areas And it's like he was a he was a great guy man.
2:13:43Did you sweet sweet guy? Given the turmoil in his relationship Were you privy to the knowledge that they had a gun in the house? No, no, I'm doing do because you got a when you're going through something bad with a spouse I mean, I don't think it's good having a gun in the house because someone could flip like that, you know I guess yeah, that's a horrible thing to think but I don't even know who's gone it was. I don't know anything Yeah, I don't know if it was her gun. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know Damn yeah, but the dream the dream was so strange because the dream was like him letting me know he's fine It was he was Phil he was laughing.
2:14:20Yeah, he was like he made some sort of a joke about his wife killing him And that we got through that now and then he sat down on the lawn chair and fell backwards like it slipped back And like I think I looked down at the ground and I looked at him and he was gone And I was like oh, this is a dream and then I woke up Did you feel like closure? Yeah, weirdly weirdly felt like it was him letting me know not to freak out about it Yeah, like let it go. Yeah Dude, you're always gonna freak out about it. You freak out about the kids Yeah, the kids is a big one that you just can't imagine would it be like if that was you if you were a kid And then also your mom shoots your dad and shoots herself and then it's public It's not just it's not just that it's just thing that you have to deal with it's the thing that everybody wants to talk to you about because the whole world knows about it Because he was a famous guy.
2:15:10Yeah, you know, well not only famous, but what really he was loved but what really kind of Was hard to get your head around as you have this guy who's an extreme comedy force, right? Yeah, and you don't think of joy Sort of comedy people that elicit laughter and violence like that right? So the fact here is this funny sort of Ha ha ha guy that yeah, I brought so much left and then that kind of ending it's like that it just doesn't fit Not only that it's like when does the wife kill the husband with a guy? Yeah, how often is it? That's so rare an execution style in the sleep Yeah, oh my god What must have been going through her head so loft and cocaine?
2:15:55Yeah, what's zoloft? It's an antidepressant SSRI. Oh, yeah Yeah, Google the results of side effects of mixing zoloft with cocaine I think there's a few psychiatric medications that you if you mix with alcohol or if you mix with cocaine You get really crazy behavior like people just go off the fucking rails Yeah, I don't know Even how much control they have I don't know what that feels like like what does that feel like you're on zoloft and cocaine You might be fucking a raving maniac. Yeah, you know, just that you got anything on that So love yeah, like just that name sounds like it's crazy time sounds like it's from the Star Trek Yeah, it sounds like it's a planet.
2:16:46They landed on right? Yeah, there's a lot of that comforting. There's all of our hair I wonder if they named it that to make it seem like it's super advanced like you're gonna take zoloft. Yeah, it's fucking Yeah, it just sounds like nutty time. It's gonna fix it. Yeah, that's gonna fix it Like if there was a legitimate happy pill that worked like that with everybody that gave you like sort of like a low dose of mdma All throughout the day. Yeah, it's probably a good thing for everybody Yeah, I mixed on that yeah Because I think we were bioengineered To have what we have and when you yeah on a daily basis if you start tinkering with what what the structure was how it was already the architecture of the structure I feel like it's not maybe necessarily a good thing Taking cocaine and anti -depressants can interfere with your medications ability to balance the levels of neurotransmitters in your brain making them ineffective And possibly worsening your symptoms Essentially anti -depressants are meant to correct any chemical imbalances that make contributed depression such as low serotonin cocaine on the other hand is abused to spike dope when you say abused how about used buddy to spike dope I mean in serotonin levels producing an energetic and euphoric high Although this rush of dope mean the serotonin makes them feel great for a few minutes Mixing anti -depressants in cocaine can produce serotonin syndrome Which is marked by symptoms like confusion anxiety fear diarrhea vomiting seizures and coma Additionally taking cocaine with other drugs also increases the individual's risk of addiction chronic users often require cocaine ejection treatment and treatment for cocaine withdrawal symptoms to recover Do you um is there zoloft mixing zoloft and cocaine psychotic behavior google that Oh, it's gotta be because I think that was something that like in limited Numbers of people they observed some like craziness.
2:18:44Yeah, that's uh poor guy. I mean sorry dude. That's a traumatic story That's a rough story But you know it happened 25 years ago or whatever it was still it's just like Crazy crazy to believe it's hard to believe you know It's hard to believe that someone could do that to someone that they marry to that they have children with and that they love Supposedly well, it's all you would lose your mind that far they would shoot them. Yeah, it's fucking well It's the Jimmy Hendrix Jim Morrison from the doors, you know, Janice Joplin syndrome They were cut down. They left us with who knows what else to offer us, right?
2:19:25You know like right so many untold jokes stories moments like Yeah, Phil Harman was obviously multi -talented as an actor too. He was an artist as well. Yeah album covers like to see What would still cut because I think didn't he get killed in his third late 30s? Nice in his 40s 40s So I don't think he even made it on to set our life until he was in his late 30s That was like the thing of him is like he was a grinder for so long and he was so talented and just didn't make it until he did And then everybody's like oh my god. This guy's amazing. Yeah, he was fucking great on news radio too Such a good at comedic actors so funny man.
2:20:02Yeah, so good at delivering a line like oh such a professional Yeah, and it was interesting because he came over from saturday night live Which is like this really competitive like shitty environment. They're sniping each other and the terrible things to each other behind the scenes They do yeah, you're told it was terrible like and so when he came to news radio to the sitcom which was opposite everybody was Very loose ever silly. We'd all go out drinking together and it was a good time Like there wasn't any like weird shittiness. Oh good. And he didn't he had it like a just like him We wouldn't so tell me about it like the the like he's like the smoke a little weed So hang out with him and he'd smoke this back when I wasn't smoking weed and he'd smoke a little weed We'd talk about stuff and just like you know like you hated being there.
2:20:47It's like it was just all backstabbers And yeah, I've heard I've heard that story at SNL Yeah, they'll steal your ideas for your sketches and you know Jim Brewer had horrible stories about that Where they he had sketch ideas and he'd put them in like the spreadsheet and they could read the spreadsheet of what you're gonna do The sketches on so other senior writers would steal those sketches and say we're doing something on them Yeah, and just like fuck you man. Yeah, it was just like this constant Battle and he said he had it with cast members. He had it with a writers and so Phil was like Eugh that's not conducive for comedy.
2:21:23That's just the worst. Yeah, so worse for comedy, but that's like that really weak man Like backstabbing shit when they get power that that happens and some when they have too much power unchecked and no one's watching them And they get away from with things like stealing younger writers premises and it's all dog eat dog everybody's just trying to get to the top That's always been a part of stand -up always been a part of comedies like people stealing people's bits and the The famous person steals them and the the unfamous person's fucked and that destroys their lives like you've seen it happen before Has anyone ripped you off ever?
2:22:01Yeah sure bunch tops Yeah, yeah, I confronted people and they told me they wouldn't do it again Then I heard they were doing it again like there's there's certain people that have always been bucking ears There's always been joke bucking ears, you know, it's it's a probably and you know, they don't have any friends those those people They have they sometimes have like Like a vampire familiar opening act so this opening act will go with them and they'll steal bits from them too There was a bunch of guys that got away with that before the internet rolled around There was there's a predatory type of comedian that would just Poach other people's premises and sort of reworked them.
2:22:39They didn't have any There was nothing that they did that was creative on their own Everything was derivative of somebody else's work everything. I always heard and I'm sure he could do a You know anything you wanted on his own volition But I had always heard stories that Robin Williams was that guy. Yeah, did you ever hear anything about that? I heard a lot of stories that he was that guy Yeah, and I think Robin Williams was so like part of that manic sort of style It's like this constant need to have a bit about anything that you're talking about ever and Killing I think was more important and filling that hole inside of him was more important than anything And so he would just do other people stuff if he didn't have anything to say Did you get confronted by all the comedians?
2:23:22Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of stories. Canis and got mad at them Oh really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he stole from canis. Yeah, he stole from everybody. He stole from a lot of people So it is true. I know he's heard that. Yeah, yeah, it's true If you ask any of those comics from back then there's always instances of Robin going on a talk show and doing your bit or going on this And doing your bit and yeah doing your bit of club. Yeah, with him Do you think it was because he was just so spontaneous? He was just like puke it out or no way You know you've had I think he wanted to kill more than he wanted to be ethical so at any cost Any cost and especially back then when no one was really watching you other than comedians Like even up into the two thousands like them and see a thing happen in 2007, right?
2:24:06Yeah, even then They were more willing to side with someone who they thought was more profitable than The truth than the truth about what is this person doing and how are they getting this material? This is pretty clear that they're plagiarizing and if it's any other form of entertainment like music Like they'll they'll bring it to court and you lose Like you and then all the money from those songs Has to come to the original person because you copied their song like that's a that's a classic thing Happens in literature all the time That woman who was the president of Harvard got busted plagiarizing.
2:24:44She's not a president of Harvard anymore There's oh that's there's consequences always but in comedy It's always been self -policed yeah, you know, and so that was it was a so it's a weird thing that thing that people do Where they try to pawn off other people's Bit says their own like it's a vampire thing because you're around all these creative people And you're just stealing a little bit from this guy a little bit from that guy and people are scared Did you ever put a guy up against the wall and no I didn't have to do that how come Because I just said things like you just Verbal like man don't do my fucking material anymore.
2:25:22You know that's my material. Yeah, just like that And you know they're probably still gonna do it unless you want to hurt them But it's like the thing about those people's they always get caught and when they get caught they They everything after that sucks. This is how you know if a thief is legitimately a thief If they're being unjustly accused, they're always gonna come up with new material They're always gonna be creative. They're always gonna have new great jokes because they're they're actually writing and working on it But if they're but if it's true What you see is an initial Special or something or a few things they do that are really funny And then you see this massive drop off in Like the concepts that they talk about the what the the irony that they discover They don't have any like legitimate points where you're like wow that is crazy There's none of that it all goes away And it becomes almost like a person doing an impression of the original successful person Because they have no creative and now they're exposed So now they have to be really careful So you see that with every thief you see a couple early like big specials or something And then you see massive drop off in terrible performances after that It's because they're not real.
2:26:36Yeah, I think I can think of a their their parasites. That's what they are their vampires And they they're they're stealing from artists and They're tolerated a lot of times because they're very successful And one of the creepy things they do is they start hiring people to work for them Like they'll have a television show or something they'll hire legitimate people to work for them And those people now become like they become like confidence And so they kind of keep it under wraps They try to like defend that person publicly. It's a very slick PR move for scumbags And some of those people working for them could be writers that will steal for them too on their behalf It becomes a problem too one of the things that we noticed in the early days of the store is that the guys who are thieves They're opening acts would become thieves Because even if the opening acts had potential and some of them got out of it and actually became like legit comics eventually But they were seeing the shortcuts that this guy was taking they were seeing this guy driving number sades And they're like I want to take shortcuts too.
2:27:33This is how you do it if you want to get by this is my mentor If that's your mentor if your mentor is a buck in here. Yeah, and you know you like okay. I guess this is a fucking do I thought it was an artist. I guess it's a doggy dog world Eventually I'll stop stealing but right now I got to make it that approach crazy kind of crazy Did anyone ever approach you and say hey Rogan? That's my bet. No I have had people approach me where I know that it wasn't their bit And I know they were trying to steal a bit. Oh really one of things that thieves will do I say I actually do a bit on that too Yeah, and you're like that's really interesting because I've been doing this bit for two years You've seen me do comedy.
2:28:10Yeah, so what do we do in here? Yeah, so there's like a thing they do to let you know Hey, I didn't steal this from you, but I have a bit on that too, but you kind of did didn't yet. Yeah, you know There's those moments that little kind of poke the cage And then there's also like a public events like some big thing that happens Everyone's gonna have a bit on it. You know like that summerine But you can't say hey I do a bit on the summer wall the border wall Everybody's got it on the border wall like this is like there's certain things where it's just you know But you just know we know who's writing we see them.
2:28:45We see them go up You know if you go to the mothership on any given night someone's gonna do a joke the bombs and then that joke Maybe next time they'll tweak it, you know, maybe they come up into the green room as many times it happened Well, one of us will say a joke. I'll say a joke. I'm like this joke is just fucking I can't go anywhere with it I got I know there's something there, but I can't and we'll fuck around we'll bounce off each other We'll network yeah, and then like someone will go up with the version of it. That's like tightened up And then it starts killing And so it's like this like cooperative project Yeah, but it's just if you're not doing that then you're not creating new material because the new materials never perfect It's always like sometimes sometimes it is sometimes you have a bit like every now and then came to you And it's hilarious right away, and it kind of stays in that same form But then a lot of times like you know there's something there, but you don't know how you're gonna extract it Yeah, some of my favorite moments is I'm one of these guys.
2:29:43I don't know why I do this. I think it's for the thrill of the kill But I love to go to the show early like at the store or whatever I'll go like you know two comics early and I'll sit in the back And I don't know what my opening bits gonna be And I realize those two comics have between them about I don't know 25 minutes. They're doing 12 minutes each And I go between them and me going up. I got to come up with my opening bit And I'll create it As I'm in the back of the room. I call it kind of sort of like swimming, you know Reaching for air when you're drowning right? Well, you know you have to say something To do it forces your brain to come up with something funny to say it off the top right and I'll go up and do it as it and again The opening bit is always the hardest like right so if you can lay a new bomb As your opening bit that you just came up with I love doing that That's a great way to put yourself under pressure.
2:30:45Oh, I love it. Yeah, have you done bottom of the barrel yet at the mothership We did it last night Next time you're in town Tuesday night Brian Simpson who we just called oh you're reaching the bucket. Yeah, I did it last I about a month ago That's the best yeah, yeah back is against what Shane and I did it last night for a half an hour We do it together sometimes so Shane and I went up at the end of the show Oh my god, we had so much that's it. It's fun It's so much fun. It was so much. We're laughing. We're laughing so hard and we're I'm laughing in him We're laughing at each other we're laughing at the audience audience is laughing It was like such a party because they know we're just pulling these things out.
2:31:23Yeah, you pull out words, right? Yeah You pull out words you got it. Oh, yeah, so like it was cool as a team thing too because sometimes he's ranting about something We're all laughing and I'll just while it's happening I'll pull in the bucket try to find another good one like what's the next one gonna be so we got one on deck and so But it's like having that thing where you're forced to come up with something funny in the moment It's like it's it's a good little exercise for creativity Yeah, and what I'm getting at to is when it hits like when you know you know when you do that It's kind of like a 40 60 ratio a lot of the time 40 % success when you get that one that you just came up with and it's a 100 % maybe even 110 The rare but it's like oh, yeah, did you see the Andrew Schultz thing that he did about Los Angeles where he's like, you know Everybody's saying that you guys are a bunch of drug addicts and perverts and psychopaths, but That's just one part of LA called diddy's house Like he was in this ditty bit.
2:32:25He came up with that in the green room. Oh see before the show Yeah, he was that they were Derek was there while he was like getting ready He was like trying to and Nails it. Yeah in front of everybody's first time he did it kills It's a great exercise because You know you've got the rest of your whole act. Yes, so in my brain. I go Let's go up and dive on the sword see if I can you know Mind some gold and if I don't I don't because I got 12 minutes or 30 minutes in the chamber that I know works So I just I love that opening few minutes where you just like throw it out there. Yeah, it's good Exciting yeah, just putting yourself in a situation like sometimes when you're on stage and you're doing a bit You ever go like it in other direction just to see where it goes Just take a little turn.
2:33:18Oh, yeah, just see never know and maybe that turn becomes like the best part of the bit Oh, absolutely, but if you don't do that. Yeah, so like that's how you tell the difference gene thieves and comments These don't they don't do that like all of a sudden they just have bits. Yeah. Yeah. No switching gears in the moment is amazing And back to what you're saying about SNL. That's One of the reasons I love the purity of what we do is because You can deviate you can Create your own meandering pathway as opposed to structured sketches and stuff like that. It's really I don't know. It's it's just let you soar man.
2:33:57Yeah I mean you're great in sketches. You're great in dumber dumber. That was fucking awesome. Oh, thank you I was I was funny seeing you in there because like you were like one of my first friends. It was in a giant movie I was like damn look at Harlan. Yeah, it was rate when I probably rate around when I met you like it was my first movie and it was like oh No, don't you want some celery? Does that help? I think it just makes it if you rub it Jamie tuck me those um paper towels. What is that tea? No coffee Oh I like this t -shirt. I don't want to fuck it up Um Yeah, I mean we're lucky as fuck dude.
2:34:35We're lucky that we get to do this for a living and you and I been doing it for so fucking long Jesus. I'm sorry. What are you doing you dick? No, it's just Ah, what are you doing over there? God. You pulling tape or amount? Yeah, bitch. Demetri God more preparation show show Oh, it's to me. You said just say fuck you really should go to jail. You should go to jail. We should deport you You send you back to Canada. Well, you're done to me You have to see it's warm. It's been in my groin for two hours. You had this in his pants. You touched the cauliflower This lover you'll touch my groin boy. I'm not in the fl - plants, but I really like snake Heartland Williams you the fucking man.
2:35:22I love you to death. Thank you. I'm so honored. Thanks for having me We'll do it again great. Do it again. I'm gonna need a recover for a few months, but then we'll do that Take to me too. Okay. I'll leave them on the table. Yeah, they'll stay here forever. Okay. Good. This is his new home He'll live amongst the arrowheads and skulls and shit. Thank you, Joe. I pledge to see you great to your friend Know you all these you know. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, buddy. You too. Bye everybody You
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