#2160 - Billy Carson

25:08Yeah. I mean, so I used to talk about what kind of gigations and everything. Fuck me up for like three days. I left his podcast for three days. I was like, damn. First of all, how the fuck is he so smart? Like how would you ever imagine that a dude who's an actor on a television show or in a movie is that smart? Like like freaky smart. But but his theory about the creation of planets, I was like, oh, that makes sense. Oh, it makes a lot of sense. We watch stuff fly off the sun all the time. And if that this matter over time would coalesce and become a planet. Yeah, creates an accretion disk and everything in space creates a creation disk.

25:46So once that matter, a creation disk. Yeah, it's a reason this. So once you have a certain amount of mass in space, it instantaneously on its own wants to create this circular like the shape of our Milky Way galaxy wants to start circling and swirving around itself. And then as it does that, it creates begins to create friction and is that correct that friction increases the matter begins to collapse into each other, all right, based on its own energy. And then it then forms a ball. And that then builds and attracts more mass until it builds into a moon or a planet or whatever. Yeah, what do you do when you encounter flat earth people?

26:22Oh, man, I just I just try to be quiet. I just tell them look, it's not my thing. You know, I remember flat earth society offered me money years and years ago. And I was like, no, I don't believe you're earth is flat. I'm not getting involved with this. They really attack me hard. Death threats and everything else. They get very upset. Yeah, I do not understand. I just think it's people committing to an idea. Yeah, it just doesn't make sense. Well, it's a religion now. They turn it into a religion. Any time that people can attack you so brutally over that. I mean, you're talking online, talking about quantum physics and they're in the chat.

26:52The blur of this flat, the earth is, I mean, today, that's like coming one guy. Fascinated by it because the thing. Yeah, because it's the ultimate conspiracy theory. Yeah, the ultimate conspiracy theory is that we are all on a set. And that the world, the earth is flat. It's a disc is a wall. The government's aware of it. They won't let you pass distance. Yeah, there's ice walls. Yeah. And that space is just lights in the sky. Right. That's it. And the sun is a bulb. And it's attached to a version of Christianity, which is very interesting. It is. It's tied into Christianity. The six thousand year old theme.

27:30There was only six thousand year old. The reason why people think they're up to six thousand years old is because most of the tablets are six thousand years old. And the Bible was written from the information they came from tablets. So that's as far back as anybody's quote unquote knowledge seems to extend. That's what a six thousand year old theory comes from, but they've taken that thing and turned it into a religion. I remember one guy DM me and he was going off and telling me he was going to shoot me in the head and all this stuff. And I said, let me ask you a question. If there's no atmosphere, then what are you breathing right now?

27:54He goes, what do you mean? I'm breathing oxygen. I said, well, that's a gas. Gas doesn't exist. I said, well, then you should be dead then because you're breathing a gas. And what else are you inhaling when you breathe? He goes oxygen. I said, well, no, you're breathing in helium, Krypton, you know, nitrogen. Yeah, nitrogen. I said, you're breathing in all these other gases. Oxygen is only about 21 % of that. Otherwise, you'd be dead. Yeah. So he didn't. He couldn't say, I said, did you graduate from high school? He said, no, I said, stop talking. That's what I realized. Don't waste your energy on these people.

28:23Well, there's a lot of dudes, unfortunately, who just get on YouTube and they listen to very charismatic people talk. They don't know what they're talking about, which I do all the time. But they, but they, they do it the way where they pretend they know something is true. That's not true. Yeah. And people get sucked into it. I know. And I just don't understand why you would think that earth is the only one out of all these things that we've observed that's flat. Yeah. It just doesn't make any sense. And I think this is respectfully to all these people that believe that I think it's a giant waste of time.

28:52I think concentrating on the shape of the earth, even if it was flat, who fucking cares? Look at what's going on out there. It would be kind of crazy to be flat. That would kind of like bolster the idea that we're the shit. We're just so much more powerful in advance and special than everything else in the universe, because we're the only ones that exist on a flat plane. Right. But the whole thing is just so insane. Just what we know about the physical universe itself and about atoms. And just just what we know about all the matter that exists in our lives is insane. Yeah, it's insane. I mean, obviously they haven't they haven't tapped into it.

29:33Even forget quantum. They standard physics. They don't they don't comprehend it. And so because of that, you know, they're lost. I mean satellites don't exist obviously to them. So I remember I remember. I remember. I like this is a cookie like bro, you can watch them. I mean, it's crazy. Hurricane Maria comes and destroys the Caribbean. And I unfortunately have some loved ones that were involved in that. And I posted a picture of the hurricane because I was raising money for hurricane supplies. And they were commenting and attacking. That's a fake image. It doesn't exist. I'm like. How much about how let me ask you this?

30:04How much of that is bullshit? Like how much of that is government? Either entities from other foreign governments where they're they jump into these subjects to make people seem really stupid. And when people say something really stupid, if they have one of the things they like to do is put a foreign flag like American flag rather in their little. Yeah, yeah. They're processing that. Yeah. And they're just saying that dumb as shit. Yeah. And I'm going, I don't know if this is a real person. I think it's not. I think it's one of those person one of those things that's designed to muddy up any discourse about anything.

30:35Yes, a sia up. I'm telling you, I told people a long time ago this whole letter of thing was a CIA sia up. I think it was drop it in there. It wasn't CIA sia up. It was someone from 4chan who just wanted to be silly. Yeah. And went so hard with explanations that a lot of gullible people without science degrees like me. They went along with it. And it's just one of those things where it's just man, what a giant waste of time. It is. It's a waste of energy. And there's so much more we can learn like these ancient texts and people say why you were focused on the ancient past. Well, because the past is prologue.

31:06If we don't understand what happened back then, we're doomed to continue to repeat these cycles of time that we've been in for quite some time for eons. It's just direct evidence that civilizations don't last when they go kooky. Yes. And on the things go sideways and there's natural disasters and wars that reshape landscapes like look that's all there. And it's happening right now. If we're not aware of it, it'll happen us. And then we'll be a footnote of history. We'll be one of those things. There was this amazing country called America. They got crazy. They created all this art and culture.

31:35And they did amazing things that they went fucking sideways. They sold out the money they got involved in wars. And then the next thing you know, the world is operating essentially like communist China, the whole world. Yeah. That's possible. Two kids. Right. You got to be you got to fight for this. Whatever this thing is that we have. This is like super fucking unique. But if you don't want to look at the past, this episode is brought to you by Buffalo trace distillery. Actually have some Buffalo trace cigars here. They just sent me one of the world's most award -winning distilleries that's been making whiskey the same way for more than 200 years made as a tribute to the rugged free spirited pioneers who blaze their own trail to new frontiers.

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33:13Franklin County Kentucky Buffalo trace American family owned independent and perfectly untamed. If you're not fascinated by ancient structures, if you're not fascinated by what kind of technology and knowledge that they have, 4 ,500 plus years ago to make the bearerments. Who are these people? What were they doing? How did they do that? And what was that thing? Was that a power plant? I mean, I know you know that. That is a crazy theory that sounds so it sounds completely wackado. But then when you have it laid out, Christopher, what's his last name? I just had a couple of weeks ago. I just had a brain fart.

34:00His depiction of the mechanisms that would be involved in turning this giant structure into some sort of a power plant. You hear about you a wait a minute. Whoa. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. And him and I have very similar theories on how the power generation occurred. And I believe that the Nile, you know, when it used to run up close to the pyramids and the water would run underneath the bridge. And that would create something called physiostatic electricity as it ran underneath that magnetized crystal granite. Those ions would pour up into the chamber, move up the grand gallery where there used to be resonating rods with you can see the slots where the rods used to be.

34:39They're removed now, but the slots are still there. Then it would be pushed into the king's chamber where it would be amplified and some type of fusion would take place then forced up through the apex. And then the crystal granite obelisks around the region would capture that ambient wireless electricity. And then if you had something called a jet, which looks like a Tesla coil, you can you can capture that energy and you can transfer it into a device for gold electrplating for any of the electrical tools you need like some of the tools they had to have used to create some of these incredible works of art.

35:09We can see the tool marks, so we know they had the tools. But they had wireless electricity way back then. That's insane. That is if that's true, that's insane. Because you would think there would be some kind of physical evidence of a device, like something left over some sort of, you know, ancient chainsaw, like something. They did a great job cleaning up. I mean, they poured sand over Giza to bury another couple hundred pyramids there at Giza. Do you think they poured sand? Do you think that's just natural erosion over time? Because when Giza, when the pyramids existed, it was a very different place, right?

35:45Like if you go back before the pyramids, like 9 ,000 years ago, it was a lush rainforest, right? And then over time it became sand. And the same with the entire Sahara desert, which is really crazy. We're talking about the other day, they find whale bones in the Sahara desert. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to the Valley of the Whales in a few weeks in Egypt, actually. It's incredible that there's whale bones out there also. So we're going out there to the Valley of the Whales. Whale bones. Yeah. Whoa. But so the point being that this place has changed radically, like absolutely radically over time. So who knows what's, do you know why those things were covered up?

36:25Is it possible that it was just sand over time? Well, if you look at the tablets again, they talk about this war, right? And this war that occurred, there's a lot of wars obviously. But this one particular war, it seems like the same one that damaged the area or the region of Giza Plateau, also Mohenjandara in the Indus Valley, up there by Pakistan. And the reason why it's interesting is if you look at the war in the Texan and go to those areas, it looks now almost you can begin to see, oh wait a minute, it looks like war Mohenjandara in this valley, the buildings turned to glass. The sand turned to glass and the bodies are still laying in the street right now today, holding hands, never been scavenged by animals.

37:02Wait a minute, where is this? Mohenjandara. Are there photos that we can look at? Oh, yeah, look it up. Mohenjandara in this valley, dead bodies still laying in the street thousands of years later. No, they just lay there, no one's covered them up. No one's covered them up. Yeah, when you put a tiger counter over them, hire them background level radiation. Really? Yeah. But aren't stones higher than background level radiation? Some stones are, some stones are especially like diorite and crystal granite. But these bodies, these are just bones, how come they're hired in background level level radiation?

37:33Look, I can't wait to see this. Why haven't I ever heard of this? Mohenjandara, Mohenjandara, there you go. Wow. Yeah. This is evidence of a nuclear war or nuclear typhoon. Go back to the other one, that one there, that one's insane. Yeah. There's bodies that are sitting on the edge of steps next to their own buildings that they lived in, the building is turned to glass. That's 3000 plus degree temperature weapons fire. So there's a bunch of people that seem to die all at once, to scatter it around? Yeah. And what's the conventional explanation for how these people died? They have no idea. They have zero idea.

38:06The only thing that you can... That was just a couple, Jamie. Go to the other, there's the Mohenjandara mythical massacre. Yeah. So did they think it's a massacre? Did there, is there any, yeah, there's just laying there. And that building, those stones are vitrified, which means 3000 plus degree temperature. Oh, shit. What kind of, you know, what could have caused that level of temperature, energetic release? Well, it could have been a low atmosphere asteroid. It could have been. It could have been, it could have been, that's possible. Tunguska. Yeah, it could have been a little bit, but then their bones would have been splattered apart and broken into pieces.

38:44Good call. Yeah, that's good call. Yeah, because they don't seem to be broken apart. No, they're not broken apart. Right. That impact would have shattered the bones and spread them out over, like just... Right, without impact, even if you just look at the one that burst in the atmosphere in Tunguska, just flattened trees. Flattened everything. I think it's some insane, like a million acres or something crazy. Yeah, that's incredible. So those bodies would be there. How big was the Tunguska explosion? That one's... Yeah, so those bodies would be toast, because the trees were ripped apart. And the buildings would have been flattened.

39:13The legs would have flown off. Right. There's no way they would just be laying there like that. Exactly. That's interesting. And they don't seem to be like chopped up. No. Did they have any evidence of stab wounds or anything on them? They don't have any evidence of any injury of any kind of attack or any cutting or like swords or anything. They just all got cooked. Right. And then in the tablets it says that the evil wind moved over to land after they released these weapons. And then Anki goes to his father. I mean, Anki goes to his father and he says, hey, can you stop the evil wind? Because he had fallen in love with some people, you know, and down there.

39:45And he's like, there's nothing I can do. He said, getting your sky shipment for a boat. That means get the hell out of here. And he said that people's hair was falling out. Their eyes were bleeding, their nose were bleeding, their fingernails were curling off. That sounds like radiation sickness. So you think it's radiation sickness that did this to all these people or was it an impact that did this to all these people? Nobody, nobody knows. Nobody knows, you know. But they're not blown apart. Right. They're not blown apart. It seems like whatever, whatever, whatever struck or whatever energetic weapon it was, it could have been not, might not have been a weapon.

40:15Whatever it was, it seems like that shock wave reached them at some point and whatever was in that wave. This killed everybody. That's what it did. Yeah. And they just don't know what it is. So how does a conventional archaeologist describe it? They just say it's a massacre. They just call it a mythical massacre and they stay away from it. When you look in the other text, the Mahabharata and the Bhagavad Gita, you find out about these wars also. They're recorded. They have weapons called the Brahma Astra and the Brahma Honda weapon. And these weapons, they describe what they describe them as doing, duplicate what you saw there.

40:49How do they describe them? They describe them as weapons that once released can't be revolted or can't be turned back and that they will obliterate any area, any city. And they say that some of the one or the weapons can destroy any man on three worlds. It's crazy stuff. This is where Oppenheimer got his famous quote when he obviously tested the nuke. Right. Now I have become death destroyer of worlds. He got that from the Mahabharata. Yeah. What a great quote to say after you detonate the firsteworth of the wall, man. What a great quote. So the idea is that there were beings that were having wars on this planet.

41:25Do you believe they were having wars with people that were revolting or were they having wars with other beings? They were fighting with each other. And epinus of these wars can be found in the book of Deuteronomy in the modern day Bible. These gods, and they do mean gods with the ask, because everywhere in the Bible verse is God singular. It's actually a mis -translation. The actual, if you backwards look up the translation in Arabic and down to Arabic and everything else you find out that it's God's plural. They were fighting each other over resources and people and control the planet. And so that's why in the book of Deuteronomy God tells people, go to this city and it's like a far city way.

42:04They don't even know that these people exist. They go over there to kill him. He says kill the women, kill the children and bring the spoils of war back to me. And you see these wars in the Mahabharata, the Bhagavad Gita, the Bible, the Samaritan Tablets. And these wars are just non -safety, Indian Vedas. And it's always about attacking another city and even talk about Trojan horse methods to get behind the gates and then to utilize that to attack and kill and bring back these spoils. Which is pretty crazy stuff. It's like they were attacking each other. They had gone awry. They had gone rogue out here on this planet and then began to fight over people and populations and resources.

42:42And we would hope that we would get past that. But there's no evidence that we have so far. So like why would we think that as AI gets implemented and technology escalates and all we're going to be able to do in the future in terms of being able to go visit other planets and duke it out on other planets. Like there was a whole story today about China just landed on the far side of the moon. So they landed a probe over there. Yeah, they did. You know, the China America war on the moon. Like what if America claims a spot in China lands and plants a flag there and they're like, hey, fuck you, that's ours.

43:17Now that's what happened. Especially if there's like something on the moon they can mine. It's very valuable. Oh, this stuff up there. I researched the Clementine mission years ago. NASA and United States military sent a military at that time. It was a top secret mission called Clementine. It was a low lunar orbiting satellite to go to the dark side of the moon. And when I saw the name Clementine, I knew right away this thing and coming back. And as I began to dig deeper into the declassified documents, of course it never came back. Oh my god. Oh my god in Clementine. You were lost and gone forever.

43:47Wow. And I was right and so enough. It hit something on the dark side of the moon, which is really just a backside. It's not really dark there, but it hits something. But it sent the back sent back about 20 gigs of data. And these images are available to the general public. They've been declassified. And there are strange anomalies on those image. This is pre -photo shot, pre -everything. Things that shouldn't be there that look like broken structures and junk and things that just seem to be laying around. So I think it was a reconnaissance mission together until and data, which is probably why China's gone to that far side of the moon as well, because they're probably going to it's the race to see who can correct capture ancient technology and then reverse engineer it and then weaponize it.

44:29Well that's the most fun theory ever. The most fun theory ever is that there's bases on the moon and the dark side of the moon that aliens of abandoned. Jamie, is there any photos of these anomalies? That's the most fun. I can provide you some with links to the sources too. Okay. Yeah, that'd be cool. But Jamie will probably find something cool. So what are these structures look like to you when you look at them? Just dome structures there. Like a dome. Just domes. And in fact, one of the astronauts, I think it was Neil Armstrong. And if you get the declassified from the Freedom of Information Act documents that are the Black Box audio and the Black Box redacted text statement from NASA, which is available to the general public, Neil says, look at those convex structures down there.

45:12I bet that people in there never get out. And he's talking about dome structures on the moon. And this is an exact statement that was made that's in the Black Box audio, which I can provide you to link to that as well. Okay, so where are these structures? Do you see any of these that you find? You can look for anomalies on the backs out of the moon. We utilize a lot of these on our Facebook groups. On Facebook, we have these groups, anomaly hunting groups. We formed the United Family of Anomaly Hunters. And we've cataloged about 60 ,000 anomalies now. A lot of them are on the dark side of the moon.

45:47But to your type in Clementine Moon photos anomaly, you may be able to find some. If not, I'll send you the link to some resources where you can look them up. And you can take a look at some of these crazy objects that are there. Is that one right there in the upper right hand corner? Yeah, that one's there. It's some structure. It looks like two pyramids on to the left of it. And then another structure which almost seems like has geometry. And underneath that, you see the blur. That looks like obfuscation directly. If you go back to that top right. Top right. Yeah, top right. B. Okay, you see that where his hand is?

46:19I move to the left going down slowly. See that? See that? Go back up again? See that? What is hand is over right now? It looks like obfuscation. Sometimes you can take these images and put them into a Photoshop and take away the contrast and all of a sudden structures pop right out. But right above that, you see those shadows of those pyramid structures? Right above that. Yeah, you see those pyramids? You can see this dark shadow. I see two lines. Well, I see the arrow that's pointing to that one straight line. And then I see what looks like two superimposed arrows. Okay, do you see? Yeah, those things.

46:52Okay, yeah. Those are superimposed, right? No, those are shadows. But look, those are the same things that are in the bottom. Are they just pointing at something? Are those pointers? I think they're maybe highlighting something. Right, I think it's a cursor mark or something. So what they're saying, I see what they're pointing to. They're pointing to that thing in the upper right anchor. You see it kind of looks like a pyramid. Yeah, you see that? You see that right there? Yeah. Yeah. It kind of looks like a pyramid. It's cleaned up a little bit there and seek. See is more clean. But those structures, those things don't look like they belong there.

47:20Well, it's hard to tell. Yeah, it's hard to tell. But now we have really, that pyramid, there's very famous. That's a very cool image. That's on the moon. There's a, there should be a link to that. There's a lot of, a lot of that particular one's been around for years and years and years. It's kind of hard to think that they were formed by natural. Now, and what, what happens is, we're not saying we know exactly what these things are. We're just saying that we feel like they don't belong there. Jamie, go back to that image that you were just looking at, the thing that we were appearing at. That one, yeah.

47:48Yeah, yeah, get that one big. Hmm. That one's crazy. Yeah. That one's very strange looking because the way it points at the top and has flat sides like, yeah, you're like, yeah. Right. So if that's real, that's interesting. But it, I'll tell all that is, one chance. That's a good question. There's a, there's a measuring tool. We don't have it, obviously, access to it by here. But there's a, but there is a measuring tool. You can see the shadow, which gives you an idea of the height. I'd like to see in real life, though. You know what I mean? Like sometimes things fuck with you. It's just, but the angles so unnatural looking.

48:20Yeah, definitely looks unnatural. We just try to catalog things that appear to be anomalous, things that appear to be out of place. Right. It could be anything. And if, in the, in the Samaritan tab, it's just time where Enlil takes his son to the moon. And he says, we'll grab your eagle's mask because you're going to need it. They were referencing that the atmosphere was harsh. Oh, you know, when you see that, when you see the anternutcu with the eagle's head, that's actually their helmet. It's a helmet. It's like a breather. Exactly. They talk about it twice, once to go to the moon in the second time to go to Mars.

48:50Yeah. And there's been other depictions of ancient gods and people that look like they're wearing some kind of mask, too. Right. Yeah, exactly. I mean, one of the cooler ones is the bubble space head looking guys in the cave. Yes. And you're like, what did you guys say? Right. Like, what did you guys say in the middle of like hunting gazelles, trying to stay alive, trying to make a fire. And then you decided to draw that thing. What is that? And we know they can draw because they can show you what a gazelle is. They can show you what a cat was catalyzed. They can show you what a person looks like.

49:17Yes. Yes. But then they draw that and you have to think, well, why? Right. Why is that the only thing you drew that's fake? Right. Exactly. It looks like a dude in a suit with a helmet on. Right. And how, here's the question. How many different things are visiting us? Like, and from how many different places? Oh, a lot. If we can't just think everything's going to look exactly the same. That seems just as silly as thinking that all of our animals should look exactly the same. Correct. I think we have three different levels of visitation going on simultaneously. One is caporial beings in a physical body, most likely anatomically similar to us, you know, a bilateral bipedal organism but two -fort -facing eyes, maybe one, two, six, and six.

50:02Do you think it's what we eventually become? That's correct. That what they are? It's possible that maybe we already are them, just the, you know, Earth could be an abandoned sea colony. We, every culture that I've talked to, indigenously, around the planet, all say they were seated on this planet by Pleiadians or other beings. Star brothers in various different places. Like the Dogen. Like the Dogen. Like the Dogen, the Nomo, the Hopi, and the Lakota tribe, the Star Brothers. The Aboriginal elders say that they were seated here by Pleiadians. All of a sudden, why is everybody having the same story that we were brought here?

50:31We could be genetically, I don't believe we're even from Earth to be quite honest with you. Our sci -cotic rhythm doesn't even match Earth's rotation on its axis, we're slightly off. It's actually better tuned to Mars orbit on its rotation on its own axis than it is Earth. What do you mean, how's that work? The sci -cotic rhythm of a human body, the wake and sleep cycle, is actually more tuned to Mars rotation on its own axis, a Mars day versus a Earth day, which is pretty weird, that we aren't synced to our own planet after all these thousands, maybe hundreds of years. Is that the same as our circadian rhythm?

51:01Circadian rhythm, right. So, how do they calculate its more tuned to Mars? How does that work? Well, it's just, they geneticists and scientists discovered that our perfect wake and sleep cycle is more tuned to Mars rotation on its axis, which is about 23 and something minute hours and versus Earth being 24 hours. And so, they said, wow, this is incredible. And they're more tested and more they studied, they realized we're more tuned to the Mars than we are to Earth, which is pretty strange. We are weird, we have a weak step shit like leap here. Right. Like, what kind of whack calendar do you have where?

51:43Here's makeup stuff. Some years, the month is longer. What the fuck are you doing? I know. For what? Make a better calendar. Isn't there a better calendar? Yeah. Shouldn't there be like a digital calendar that represents exactly what's going on and not go January? And you come on. Fuck out of here. I know it's pretty bizarre. But you know what's interesting, if you want to say, well, human beings could be aliens, well, actually every person on this planet is an alien, even our planet itself is an alien. Scientists just discovered something interesting. I've never talked about this shit on the podcast and you guys will look this up.

52:13So our Milky Way galaxy is pretty interesting because it's absorbing another galaxy at this exact moment called the Sagittarius dwarf galaxy. Not the Sagittarius constellation, that's something totally different. We are absorbing the Sagittarius dwarf galaxy at this exact moment. People thought for all these decades, looking up, even hundreds of years, looking up in the night sky, seeing that swath of stars going across, that's the Milky Way. Guess what? We've been wrong the whole time. This is now being taught in universities and astrophysics. So what you're looking at, you're looking at the absorption or the merging of the Sagittarius with the Milky Way galaxy.

52:51And the exact point where it merges and drops into the Milky Way is right where our solar system is located, which would explain the rogue planets that we know that are out there. There's millions of rogue planets that have no sun that are just floating free around. There's planets and solar systems that are orbiting far beyond the orbiter Pluto in our inner or cloud, admitted by astronomers now, that there's other solar systems within this inner or cloud area orbiting our Sun of the 4200 years. So all of a sudden, that's Cory Powell, the astronomer at Discovery magazine, by the way, who said that.

53:25So this is pretty interesting. We're talking about the fact that our solar system itself is an implant into the Milky Way that we come from Sagittarius. We're not even part of the Milky Way galaxy. Okay. So when they're looking at our own solar system, they have an understanding that there's a thing called the Kuiper Belt that's out there. And there's so many objects in there that are small. And that's one of the reasons why they decided to declassify Pluto as a planet because there's other objects, real similar in size. Yeah, I'll keep on key in all those other planets. But they think there's something large out there.

54:01They think there's something large out there that they haven't yet identified because of the way that gravity is responding. What is the reason for it? Well, what happens is they discovered that in some way millions of years ago something moved through our solar system and captured its own weird orbit around our Sun. And what's crazy is the evidence is in our solar system. So Saturn and Neptune switch locations because of a gravitational field. Uranus is flipped on its side and orbits its equator is orbiting north and south, not east and west. And they know that like you got hit or something gravitationally just tugged at it so hard that it flipped sideways.

54:38It never stops. Never stop. And it moved through our solar system way out beyond orbit of Pluto and this thing captured its own orbit. This is in the enumination of seven types of creation. This exact process that's been described now by astrophysicists and astronomers is an ancient text that we can read and we can see, oh my god, this is exactly what this text is saying. It's talking about the creation of our solar system. It even talks about the creation of Earth in that text. It says that when a Marduk aka Nimburu, a moon of Nimburu crashed into Tiamat, it broke into pieces and became the hammered bracelet.

55:12That's the asteroid belt. One giant chunk swung away, recoalesce with everything. Water, land, and organic material needed for life and became the Earth, tugging with it the moon. So it's pretty crazy that the creation of this planet itself and it says that it pushed the net force, pushed Mercury closer to the Sun and pushed Venus closer to the Sun. And then we took the third spot in place around our orbit, around our Sun. And then, of course, we have Mars which used to be a moon, a habitable moon of Tiamat, a planet that was 46 times larger than Earth. And it slung into this crazy orbit. That's why Mars has this weird orbit.

55:50And you have to rendezvous with it if you're NASA or anybody trying to rendezvous with Mars every two years, doing this in Apigee or Paragee. You have to, Apigee or Paragee, one of them is further away than the other. One is 80 million miles and the other one is closer. So if you're rendezvous with rendezvous every two years, you can capture the orbit of Mars and you can actually get there in four months. And then they looked at it and said, wow, they meaning astrophysicists. This looks like this Mars wasn't originally in this type of orbit. It must have been orbiting something else in our solar system, which it was.

56:19One side is charred black and the other side is smooth. So the side where Tiamat exploded, those chunks hit Mars on one side, created a very charged side. And the other side is smooth this surface in the solar system, which is because of the global flood that that created. And then Mars is axis on its equator, is tilted 45 degrees on its axis, which means the mass shifted it down 45 degrees. They had a major global catastrophe there on that one Mars. And then after Mars, you have another little planet that survived called series, C -E -R -E -S, which is also a result of this Tiamat exploding. People don't even talk about series.

56:55It has the most fresh water of any other planet in our solar system. And where is this location? That's the next planet after Mars series C -E -R -E -S. How big is it? It's about maybe two -thirds smaller than Mars. It's a dwarf planet. So they don't, it's falls an orbit between Mars and Jupiter near the middle of the asteroid belt with an orbital period. Click on that, Jamie. When they flew by it about... You heard about this before? I didn't know there was another planet out there. Listen, when they flew by it a few years ago, the lights were on. They sent the probe out there. What? The lights were on.

57:30And so they tried to say it was ice particles, glistening in the sunlight. So when they got to the dark side, guess what? The lights were on on the dark side. So they couldn't use the ice particle explanation anymore. So they just said we don't know what it is. What? A series small size means that even at its brightest it's too dim to be seen by the naked eye, seven under extremely dark skies. It's a parent magnitude ranges from 6 .7 to 9 .3, peaking in opposition, what's closest to Earth. Once every 15 to 16 months, and how do you say that word? Sinodic. Sinodic? I don't know where you're at now.

58:0316th month, Sinodic period. Oh, yeah, Sinodic. Sinodic period. As a result... As a result, its surface features are barely visible even with the most powerful telescopes and little was known about it until the robotic NASA spacecraft dawn approach series for its orbital mission in 2015. And we have high resolution images of the surface. There are strange things there as well, which is pretty crazy. So what are the images of the surface? You have to go to NASA .gov and go to the dawn images and you can download or sometimes the European Space Agency has them as well. Yes, and then you can grab those images.

58:41It's pretty crazy. Some things just don't look right there. What doesn't look right? Well, if you look at Mohenjindara or areas of Egypt, or even Iraq where it used to be Sumeria, structures that used to be there that are now worn down and weathered, they have similar looks there. Similar things that they look similar there. Not saying that they are. I'm just saying that they look strange. Some things look strange. We have a lot of strange things on Earth that are natural. That's true. We sure do. We even have octagons and straight lines on Earth that are natural as well. That was one of the craziest ones that Terence brought up was the octagon Saturn.

59:18Was it Saturn? Yes, Saturn. That when you look at the octagon Saturn, it's mimicked in the model that they created by using the whole idea that he really blew my mind with was the Goldilocks Zone idea. That planet's reach a certain distance from the Sun and that's when life starts happening. This is a normal force that happens everywhere in the universe. As time goes on, that planet is going to get further and further from the Sun. It's going to lose its ability to do that and then a new planet will move into the Goldilocks Zone. That is also going to become like us. If you are following this idea of this idea makes sense.

59:56This is just this sort of natural process that these intelligent creatures go through. Even though we are looking at AI and technology, we are looking at people anymore. Guess what? We can't be people anymore because we are not going to make it if we don't. There is a timeline. It seems like you are only going to live 100 years so it is no big deal. Humans, if we keep going a few million years, we are going to have a real problem. A billion years from now, we are not going to be around anymore. There is going to come a time where the Sun doesn't exist anymore. If you get so intelligent that you can escape the boundaries of the physical world and you can move throughout the cosmos wherever you want, then you have escaped.

1:00:37You have escaped this fear. There is an intelligent test. Intelligence test that life goes through. We are going to give you all the tools just like you are in the womb. You are in the womb of Mother Earth. You want to give you all the tools but you have to get out of the house. A certain point of time, you have to get out of the house. You are 24, you are still living at home? Get the fuck out of the house. They are waiting for us to grow up. Human beings are babies right now. It is a civilization trying to learn how to walk. Right now we are barely crawling and then we plop down on our stomach and everybody screams and cries.

1:01:11But we are getting to the point and eventually we will go to the edge of a table and pull ourselves up. Then we will take a couple of steps and then we will fall again. Everybody will think it is all over. We are doing so good in the collapse again but no, that is just a fall. The baby will pull itself back up. It will cry less and it will take more steps until it falls again until it can get this controlled fall. That is the definition of walking, controlling your fall. We are in that process now. This is a proven ground for us to be able to develop consciously, spiritually, ascend to higher levels.

1:01:40I believe I am pretty optimistic for mankind that we will get through this period. Well, that is a beautiful thing to hear. I love when people are optimistic because I am always like, I don't know which one. I tend to be optimistic. It proves what these ancient beings were doing. They were creating breakaway civilizations throughout the entire Milky Way galaxy because of what you just said. The fact that planets won't be habitable forever. Even Earth, let us say Earth never moved and stayed right where it is at in the Goldilocks zone. We are going to lose our control over the weather because the moon is moving away at a few centimeters every single year.

1:02:12As the moon backs off of Earth, our weather patterns are going to get more hectic and chaotic and the wobble is going to be uncontrollable. So the point where life won't be able to exist, not our kind of life won't be able to exist on this planet. So just losing the moon alone in a few million years is going to destroy us. So we have to create breakaway civilizations. We have to get out of here, which is what all these other advanced civilizations in these ancient texts have done. It only makes sense if Terence is correct about this idea of the Goldilocks zone. It only makes sense. And if there are other planets somewhere in another galaxy or ours that have the same exact sort of features, water, the same temperature, the same mixture of amino acids and whatever the hell else is here that makes life.

1:02:56And then it happens there too. It just makes sense that some places are going to be more stable. So they are going to have less natural disasters. So people will evolve faster and longer. But then there is the argument that the natural disasters are actually good. Because the natural disasters knock us back down. If we are about to destroy everything, knock us back down to some much more primitive version of ourselves. And then we have to rebuild society again over thousands of years. Which to the universe is the blink of an eye. That's the blink of an eye. You're right. That's exactly what happened in the animal tablets.

1:03:28You know, 36 ,000 years ago, though, this heat arrives in this place called the Land of Kim, ancient chemit before it was known as Egypt. His father sent them one mission to rebuild civilization back up to a higher level. Meaning that it already wasn't a high level prior to this flood situation. And he says he gets into the great ship of the master and he takes off into the sky until the earth disappears. And then he goes to the point appointed and he sees beneath him the children of the land of Kim. And he descends down. He isn't sail in. He descends down. And when his ship lands, he opens his doors and he comes out with his crew.

1:04:03And he says the barbarians came at him to attack him with cludges and spears. He says, I raise my staff and sent out a ray of vibrations, stopping him still as fragments of stone of the mountain. So he had a stun gun. He had a weapon that there was, you know, not Ruth, not lethal, non -lethal weapon that can freeze you in your tracks. And we have something just like that now in the military called the active denial system. They can send a beam at a crowd coming to attack and make them stop still right in their tracks. They can make you feel like you want fire, make you feel like you want to vomit.

1:04:34They can even put voices in your head. They can make you be an extreme extreme pain. It's called the active denial system. So he's talking about technology back then that we have right now. Could do. Look at, look at that. Because is that, do you think that's what that Havana syndrome thing is? It's possible, man. This thing, if this, if you put it above like in the sky and aiming at an area and it beams spreads a little bit, you can create mass illness, mass sickness, mass, mass hysteria. You can have everyone running around thinking that they've got somebody talking to them and telling commanding them to do certain things.

1:05:05It's out of control. This weapon can be fully weaponized in a lethal way. In a way that can make people become psychotic, you can make somebody think they're burning it on fire. Whoa. Active denial system demo. Can we listen with this guy saying? It can deter individuals on a military perimeter all the way up to a riotous crowd. All without permanent harm. It only penetrates one six and four to the nunchy of your skin. Those very shallow into where your nervous sectors are. I can't take the pain. Whoa. No permanent entry caused by it. So what does it do to them? It's in a frequency, a beam of frequency.

1:05:51It's just like those in the animal tablets. I put this in my books because it's important. He is the guest's volunteer to test out its effectiveness and safety, including the assistant comodant of the Marine Corps. Wow. He said fuck it. He said fuck it. The most described it as feeling like a hot oven or grill being opened up. Wow. So that's what he used on them. Thousands of years ago. Holy shit. 2012. Now they turned into statue. Absolutely. Now it's over in Medusa. Yeah. Medusa. What do you think Medusa was? Frequency technology. Imagine that story. We always thought that was just some crazy story.

1:06:39Imagine there's a technology back then that can actually turn you into stone. Right. Now that we know that people can do things like that. And then we would imagine a thousand years of evolution. Ten thousand, five hundred thousand. Whatever these people are. Yeah. Whatever these things are that have the ability. It's kind of disappointing that there's still a wage in the war. I gotta tell you that. Yeah. It's crazy. That's a bummer. That's a real archaic mindset. You know, we have to find a way to rise above. This is why we need to understand exactly what happened. And how do we overcome what's been embedded into our epigenetic memories?

1:07:08Because we're suffering from epigenetic mental hysteria. Which is psychosis in this war psychosis. We've been programmed as human beings to have consumption and fighting and competition over collaboration. Yeah. Everything is designed to keep us separate, dividing conquerors the main mission and it works so well for so many thousands of years. And this dividing conquer tactic that's been burnt into our DNA and our code has put us in a situation where we are not advancing as we should be. We're getting now this technology leaked out to us. And yes, that's advancing pretty fast. But consciously and spiritually, it's holding us back.

1:07:43Because everyone's putting themselves in boxes and saying, I'm a part of this thing. And I'm a part of that thing. And then we don't work together. No, that's such an important point. And it needs to be drilled into people's heads. Yeah. We're distracting ourselves by getting involved in these stupid arguments over stupid things. Right. There's really important issues with the world. And those aren't being addressed. And one of the big ones is, how do you stop people from killing each other? How do you stop war? How do we stop this insane practice of having groups of people go up against groups people they'd never even met and killing them?

1:08:12Exactly. And then we're all okay with this. We talk about how this is normal and this has to be done. And these war is ugly and it's unfortunate, but we have to do it. Are you fucking sure who's pulling the strings here? People with $10 ,000 suits that don't get on the front line. They send poor kids and young kids, young men and women to die. Yeah. And it's all about money. And it's all about money. And you know, Smetley Butler wrote about it in 1933. War is a racket. Yeah. And that's right. You read that. Read that from 1933 folks. And this was a general. Was he a general? He was his right? Yeah.

1:08:47Who's retiring and he wrote this piece about how he thought he was preserving democracy. He was really just making the place safe for bankers. Yeah. It's just it's an ugly business that Eisenhower tried to warn us about and is leaving from office speech. That's right. When he stepped down or when he was no longer the president, he left office and gave a speech about warning about the military industrial complex. And it's influence. He sure did. And I don't think they knew back then that people would be able to have YouTube and just watch that. Yeah. And if that's how they did it back then, imagine how good they are at it now.

1:09:23Oh man, they're masters at neuroscience. Applying neuroscience to the general population, they are masters at it. And they know how to get into the psyche of a human being. And they know how to turn them again, turn us against each other while they themselves chop it all up. Like I always say, there is no Democrat or Republican. It doesn't exist. The only thing that exists is a group of elite oligarchs that torture men, women, and children worldwide. That exists. They capitalize and monetize us and they put their boot on our neck. But the think that there's left wing and a right wing, I think it's the same bird.

1:09:53Yeah, it's all just money. Yeah. It's all money. And they use social issues, whatever they are, whether it's Christianity or abortion rights or whatever it is. They just use those. It's like little moves that they put in their little game. And really what it's about is enriching themselves and staying in power. And the best way to stay in power is control narratives and control influence. And make people believe a very specific thing and drill it into their head. But the problem is like, I think human beings are more awake now than ever before. And they know this game now. At least a large number of us know this game.

1:10:28It's shifting so fast. It's shifting like incredibly fast, which is great. How old are you, Billy? I'll be 53 in September. You look great. Thanks, man. So you and I are basically close to the same age. I'm 56. And when we were kids, this version of the world was never discussed. You would have to be a complete cook to think that money is what, why wars are started? Oh, come on. No one would ever do that. Right. You would be a complete cook to think that the pharmaceutical drug companies lie about their drugs. What are you talking about? They can't do that. They would be arrested. Yeah. You'd be a cook.

1:11:01Yeah. And now, especially after the pandemic, that's how everybody feels. And then watching these wars go on between Ukraine and Russia and Palestine and Israel, you're like, what the fuck is going on? In the 21st century, this is still happening right now. In large scale. And people are having debate over the acceptable amount of numbers of women and children that are allowed to die in a war. Right. It's insane. It's insane. Earth is, you know, partly it's a giant mental facility. Mental health is a major issue on this planet. Yeah. When a person can look at someone and say they deserve to die because of their beliefs or their non -belief, that's a major problem.

1:11:38That's a sign of mental illness. It's also a sign of like a spoiled child. It's almost like we skipped the line, right? We didn't really do what we didn't pay our dues to become people. We got turned into people. You know, like it's like the right because if we there's anthropologists are looking at chimpanzees now. And they're looking at them saying they're entering into the stone age. Like they're using tools now. Now if you watch that same chimpanzee and you went a few million years in the future, who knows what it looks like? Probably looks like an upward -looking human that has much more intricate tools.

1:12:14Who knows if it's created stone weapons, structures, houses, they make develop a language. True. You could watch chimpanzees over the course of evolution, but that's too slow. Yeah. And so if you were another highly intelligent being for another planet, they're going to get there. Give them a little something. Give them a little something. And the evidence of that is that in the first tab, it's called the myth of Adapta, which means first man. The myth of Adapta and ancient Sumerian text. It's a tablet. And in this tablet, you can buy the book, Myth of Adapta on Amazon. You can read it for yourself, completely translated.

1:12:48And it's translated by scholars, by the way. And it's talking about the fact that according to the Anunnaki, human beings were created in a way. That genetically, we were supposed to become more superior than them. They didn't know this was going to happen. And Lil was angry at his brother Anunnaki because Anunnaki put a little extra in the sauce. Yeah, a little extra. And he said that the mysteries to unlock the secrets of the universe is hidden within our bodies. And that we ourselves can rise to be even higher than them. This is a major thing to be putting into texts like this. Now, who sits around and writes this?

1:13:22How do they specifically describe this? They describe it just like that. It says that human beings, or a man, called Man Adapta, Adapta was created to be even higher than us. And that all the secrets of the universe, the mysteries, are within our body. And I believe that because when I started studying DNA, that took me into a whole DNA study. I discovered this scientist called George Church. And he created this ebook that he was able to take from a digital format. And he was able to download it onto one drop, one gram of DNA, a digital book. He converted it from A, C, T, and Gs into from zeroes and ones.

1:14:01I'm sorry, he converted it from zeroes and ones into A, C, T, and Gs. Read, write, read, write, put it on the DNA. Then he said, wow, this is incredible. DNA can store information in a volume. Then he said, okay, this is what we're going to do. Let's replicate this book. So he replicated the book 80 billion times on one gram of DNA. And this is a, this is not just a regular ebook. This book had graphics and images and everything else in it. So then he said, let's see, we can get it back. So he converted, he created a read right again. He converted it from A, C, T, and Gs back to zeroes and ones and uploaded it back to the server.

1:14:31So now he knows that DNA can upload and download information. Crazy. Whoa. So now they said, okay, well, how much data can store, he stored on one drop over 433 petabytes of data. A petabyte is a thousand terabytes. What an unfortunate name. I know, right? That's a crazy name. I was like, why do you all name it this? That's a byte. But anyway, so that's so insane. Now they discovered recently on Holmium Adams, scientists have now written information data onto an individual Holmium atom. And they discovered that we can store information they can read right directly onto the surface of an actual atom.

1:15:13Now, think about that for a second. Oh my god. So they're saying that a human body can store 13 .5 billion years of roughly of data, which is roughly around the time they believe the universe probably exists. So that myth of a Dopa text could be accurate. The secrets of the universe is probably encoded into our body because we're just recycled atoms. Right. And then as we evolve technologically and biologically, we develop a higher and higher ability to access that information. Exactly. That's exactly what it is. The longer we go, the more we're able to tap in to this information, tap into who we truly are.

1:15:49We'll begin to walk in our power, look inside, go to interspace, not outer space. We'll begin to tap into this and they discovered now that junk DNA is no longer junk. They're taking the term junk off of it that it really has function. It always had function. It was never junk. That's just the word to keep us programmed to thinking that we are junk. Well, I think it was a way for them to explain something that they couldn't explain. Right. But when you use the word junk, if you're a weird word, if you understand affirmations, you know, I would never call myself junk. So that's a weird way to do it.

1:16:18But now they're finding out that that's, you know, and again, in the myth of a Dopa, it's saying that we're going to tap into this. So I believe that all of our innate abilities that we used to have are going to start to come back over time, like accessing Earth's magnetic field with the magnetite crystals in our brains. We all have billions of magnetite crystals in our brains and they put a guy into a laboratory and they put a giant bar magnet and moved it around the room and they put an EEG cap on them and a scanner. And they saw that they were orienting themselves to the magnetic field. So we still have the ability to navigate magnetic fields.

1:16:48We just don't, don't even know. We're unaware of it. Well, we know it exists in animals. Yeah. So we have it in our body as well. So all these things are going to begin to come back. There's so little true understanding of like how birds migrate, like how they all know when to do it. What is calling them, what a very specific direction? Are they using landmarks on the ground? Are they just using some sort of a magnetic field? Are they just tuned in to where the North Pole is and what are they doing? How are they doing it? What is the organ that's allowing them to do it? Yeah. Is that something that humans have?

1:17:24And we just, we went away just like I can't remember anybody's phone number anymore. Right. I stepped so many phone numbers in my head. We had to happen because we're, you know, we're sevenies babies. Yeah. You're, you're, you may be 60, not 60, yeah, I'm 70s, 71. But yeah, but what happened was, if you look at the tablets again, this is why I love these tablets, man. They talk about the fact that, you know, they had created this, this being, not created from scratch, but genetically modified. They add their essence to it is what they say added our essence. So by adding the essence, you can see where all of a sudden, maybe our ancestors were in tune with the magnetic field.

1:17:58And we're able to communicate psychopathically, maybe even had telekinesis and these other innate abilities weren't technologically advanced, but maybe more spiritually advanced. And they tinkered with us and took away our memory, took away our ability to tap into that. So we can focus solely on them. Hmm.

1:18:16I guess if you were going to, you know, if you ever seen the movie Prometheus. Oh, yeah. When the alien dies and DNA goes into the water. Yeah. If you were going to play a real long game and seed life in the universe, and then you were going to, I mean, especially with us, you were going to create something that's very sophisticated and encode inside of it, enough information that they could figure out everything. Just just going to take time. I was like, you have to earn this information, but it's in there. Mm -hmm. Yeah. It's such a compelling theory. The problem is I get so wrapped up in these that I hope they're true.

1:18:52And when I hope they're true, I stop thinking critically. Because I'm like, that's the most fun. It's the most fun to think that we were created by aliens. The most fun to think there's a base on the north side of the moon. But the undeniable stuff that to me is equally compelling, I think, even then the aliens is like, how did they make the pyramids? Like, who did that? Yeah. Who did that? What was that culture like? Right. Like, if I could go one place, I would go to Egypt, Giza, when it's thriving. You know what the number is? You know, I don't know if it's a John Anthony West number or if it's a, you know, a more conventional number of 4 ,000, whatever it is.

1:19:33Just get me there. Let me see what that was. Yeah. What were you guys doing? Right. How the fuck did you make that thing? How did you get those stones from 500 miles away? How did you cut them so perfectly? How did you get them all the way up in the ceiling of this giant king's chamber? Yeah. What was that damn thing? Why didn't I have a gold cap on the top? Right. Like, what did you guys do? How did you make the gold cap? Yeah. Like, what did you guys do? It's wild. I go with the John Anthony West theory. I'm closer to his timeframes. Yeah. Rest in peace, John Anthony West. He was amazing. Amazing, amazing man.

1:20:03Wow. Yeah, magical Egypt folks. It's a, I think there's two versions of the video series that you can get online. Go find it. It's incredible. The first one I watched like 10 times. Yeah. Like, this is just the, I mean, forget about speculation. Forget about like timelines. Just the undeniable majesty of the construction of those structures and the statues and like, what they built was like, my God, like nothing else. Yeah. Like, nothing else in the world. No one's even in a distant second place. No, not even close. Egypt can, I mean, Egypt can just stand above all of it and it was so long ago.

1:20:44Yeah. It's super ancient. And what I like about John Anthony West, his theory aligns with the animal tablets date range because you know, when he talks about the great sphinx being built to processional periods back, it takes it back to around 36, 38 ,000 years ago around the same time that though claims to have written the animal tablets. And in these tablets, he talks about building the great pyramid. He said, build it eye the great pyramid pattern after Earth's force so that it too might remain through the ages. So he claims to be the master architect of the structure of the great pyramid. And what he did was he incorporated into it advanced science.

1:21:18It's not just a power generator. It's also, in my opinion, it also could be a multi -functional stone computer. Okay. And this thing calculates the orbits of the planets and the inner solar system, which is crazy. How's it do that? Well, if I have some, can I open up this? There's some notes. I guess some incredible notes that I did some math that I did yesterday. I'm amazing. How much you don't need notes. There's a few people that come on this podcast that blow me away without notes. Like, Tara's one of them. Yeah, she's one of me. Ronda Patrick, she's another one of them. I just want to get the numbers exact, you know.

1:21:50So one thing, the equatorial circumference of the Earth can be calculated by the great pyramid because the great pyramid itself is one by 43 ,200 scale down. So if you take the great pyramid and scale it up 43 ,200 times, it fits directly inside the sphere of the Earth and it touches the equator. Meaning the dimensions of how the angles of it would fit inside of a sphere. Inside of a sphere. It's a representation of the Earth in a period middle format. That's crazy. If you multiply that by the base perimeter, you get 24 ,734 .94 miles, which is roughly within 170 miles of the circumference of the planet Earth itself, which is wild.

1:22:34You can also calculate the speed of the Earth around the Sun. So the great pyramid, basically you take a pyramid inch times 10 to the eighth power, it equals the speed of Earth around the Sun. That's wild. The problem with these kind of calculations is Flint Dibble made note of this that you could take that and you could do that with a lot of different things. Like, what was the one he used for 420? Yeah, he had 420 inside of it. Yeah, he had a bunch of different funny ones. 420, oh, we did. Yeah, yeah. He was explaining how you take these arbitrary procession of the equinox numbers and you could multiply them times like whatever you want.

1:23:13You could get a bunch of different results based on what you wanted the result to be, not based on the actual calculations. Some of them are hard to do. Check this out. Forget about multiplying things. What about taking the fact that the great pyramid is located at the center of landmass on Earth, not the center of the Earth, the center of landmass? Now the only way you can put the pyramid at the center of landmass is you have to have a polar orbiting satellite. If we were to do it today, a polar orbiting satellite that's orbiting this way and as Earth spins on its axis, you're taking swaths of data and you're calculating the landmass and then you're going to say, okay, this is the center point for landmass and you put it there.

1:23:47So the center point for landmass being you take the surface of the Earth, what percentage of it is covered with water, where the ground is, and then you find the center of where the most ground is and that's where the pyramid is. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. It's taking all the average heights of all the peaks on Earth and then dividing that to get the average height and making that the height of the great pyramid. Now you can't just randomly calculate those numbers, okay. That's the average height of all the mountains and the peaks on Earth. That's right. Wow. That's right and that's an absolute fact.

1:24:21The Grand Gallery, the latitude of the Grand Gallery inside the great pyramid leading into the King's Chamber, the latitude are the exact digits of the speed of light in meters per second. You can't just randomly calculate that one. Well, you can't just get those stones down. I mean, there's not one thing about it. You can get real crazy with numbers and mathematics but there's not one thing about it that's not completely insane. Like every single aspect of it is completely insane. The fact that we still will try to pretend today that it's not impressive or that it was impressive but that they did it with sand and they did it with like, how do you know?

1:24:59Well, you would need more mud. If you were the mud ramp theory, you would need more mud and mass than the pyramid itself. So that's a farce. The mud thing, I mean, it's like just show me one. Show me one. Here's the problem with that mud ramp theory. I don't think people realize. I take people on tour to the pyramid every single year. I take people on a huge tour. Last year we had 140 people on tour in Egypt for 12 days or whatever it was. But the pyramid itself, each individual stone at the pyramid, excuse me, each individual stone at the pyramid is a different shape and size. There are no two stones that are perfectly the same.

1:25:34Each stone fits in an interlocking format. So you can't say go over here and cut these stones. We're going to bring them up here and we're going to throw up this pyramid. It doesn't work that way. Each stone is made individually specifically for the location that it's exactly in. Because they all have to be in an angle. Because they're all going up towards this angle. And they're going to be cut perfect. Exactly. So they're interlocking stones and there's no way to say just cut this cookie cutter out and we're going to bring them in hoist them and all of them are perfect. And if you accidentally cut the wrong size or you're off five few inches, you can't make the prayer.

1:26:08You can spend a week or two getting a stone to a location that don't fit. It doesn't make any sense. They had four knowledge. People don't take their amount of resources, energy, effort that it took to build that structure and then guessing that it will work out in the end. You only build that if you have a complete blueprint and you've got proven facts, right? You have proof of concept that it works and you've done this before. Now what do you think about the other pyramids that are wonky? Like the ones that aren't perfect. Do you think that they were trying to duplicate the great pyramid? Do you think they were trying to make their own?

1:26:39The deeper you go into antiquity, the more perfect construction was. The further you come forward in time, the more wonky and crazy things are on begin to fall apart. So do you think they just forgot how to do it? The knowledge was lost. You can see the evidence of the knowledge. By the time we got to Alexander the Great, have you ever been to Alexandria? No. I thought I was going to go see this incredible place. It looks like a bunch of crap, a bunch of piled up rocks, buildings leaning on each other, even the people living in apartments that are leaning, buildings leaning. Everything there looks just, what the stones are, I can pick up those stones with my own hands.

1:27:11They try to duplicate the majesty of ancient Egypt, but they didn't even come close. It's just so bizarre that one civilization got so much further than everybody else. And no one really knows exactly how they did it. Right, light years ahead. Now when you hear the carbon dating of the great pyramid, what does your take on that? Because the radio carbon dating is 2500 BC, right? That's what they think. I just don't believe it. Why is that? Well, first of all, the way that the structure is made, if you look at other structures, made it in that same timeframe, they don't have the same majesty. They don't have the same level of construction.

1:27:49They don't have the same capability of withstanding time. Right. So why are these falling apart, but this one isn't falling apart? And I don't, you know, but that's not necessarily because, look, you could have a shitty house today and you could live right next to Jeff Bezos' house. That's very true. I mean, it's just, there's going to be different cultures and different abilities and, you know, different craftsmen. Yeah. Within the same region, I'm talking about the same area. Yeah, but even in the same area, you're always going to have people that suck. If you look at the subterranean shaft, I don't know if you've ever been there.

1:28:22It descends beneath the great pyramid down into the ground on a specific angle, about 65 meters. And there's another 30 meter drop straight beneath that. And this is where Christopher Dunn is hypothesized there was something that was creating a frequency down there, something like pounds on the earth, creates a very specific frequency, in a very specific vibration that goes through the entire stone structure, which theoretically could work. Oh, yeah, absolutely. And then this whole thing about using different chemicals in these shafts that leak through the limestone and that limestone is porous and you would have a specific amount of thickness with limestone so you'd know exactly how much chemicals to put in the shafts.

1:29:00And the shafts did exist and they did have openings to them and they were sealed. You could open them up and dump things into them. And then the passageway that goes into the King's Chamber, the so -called King's Chamber, and that it has opening shafts that go to the heavens. Yes, they do. And I think I know why. My hypothesis on those shafts is, well, you look at the way the pyramid is designed, the Queen's Chamber is technology. It seems to be like an electrolysis generating machine to extract hydrogen from water. And Christopher Dunn had the same, pretty close to the same hypothesis I had with that.

1:29:33Now why hydrogen? It's the most abundant element in the universe. And right now today we try to communicate with ET on the hydrogen frequency. Now those shafts, imagine on certain linements we know for a fact that pyramid aligns with specific planets, or stars, Orion, El Debron, Draco, these alignments. And then these shafts would send out this hydrogen frequency potentially on my hypothesis around those alignments. That's why, for communication purposes, updates on this breakaway civilization. Because I believe there was an ancient galactic war, which I talk about in my show, my docu -series, Anunnaki.

1:30:10And this ancient war created these space refugees, which then spread out around the Milky Way. Earth just happens to be one of the breakaway civilizations. It's not outside the realm of possibility when you think about what we're doing. And if we get more advance and do this better, that we could be still involved in very similar types of activities throughout the galaxy. It sounds terrible, but that just might be how things get done, unfortunately. War might just be a part of our essence, and it might be a part of the whole cosmic balance of good and evil, that the shifting of the winds and the tides coming in and coming out.

1:30:44It's like this, it needs good and bad. It needs all these things. Yeah. Well, in the biblical text, God says in Isaiah, I create the good and I create the evil. Do what I say at the Lord. Right. The most I've ever said. He's saying he creates good and evil. Yinn and Yang is what they call in ancient cultures. Good and evil, dark and light, it's all the same thing. It's the most fascinating subject to me. It really is. The most fascinating subject is when I hear stories from the Bible or the Bhagavad Gita or the Talmud or any of these stories, what was the origin? What were they trying to say? What were they documenting?

1:31:20What were they sharing in an oral tradition of the history of people and of the earth and of the heavens themselves? Like, what were they sharing? What were those things? How much of it was myth? How much of it was someone misinterpreted the original story and watered it down. But at the beginning of it, even at the beginning there was light. Just that it's literally like the big bang. It's literally describing what the current scientists believe happened. And then you think about these stories of floods. And then we know there's evidence, like the Randall Carlson work, all his work on the flooding that existed where you could see these enormous channels cut through that it's indicative of just insane amounts of water over a short period of time.

1:32:10And when he describes that, you're like, what? Yeah, it's incredible. And then the fact that we know that there's asteroid impacts, there's comet impacts, and that the ice age ended abruptly. And that all these areas. Like, this is where it was. This is where it went down. And this might be every fucking story that you've heard from the beginning of time. Epic of Gilgamesh, no one the ark, all these stories. Yeah, all of them. I mean, obviously, the Noah story is inside of the Epic of Gilgamesh. Yes. I believe that is a result of the younger, driest incident. And the Epic of Atraha's cease, there is this strike of this either an asteroid or whatever it is, it doesn't specifically say.

1:32:51But they had the ability to stop it. And there's this other disc that has cuneiform writing on it, which is supposedly the direction that this thing took course through space to hit earth. And so it was kind of known that this was going to happen. And every way you look on the earth around that same time period that this is estimated to happen, make megalithic construction stopped. What happened that everyone stopped at the same time unfinished in the quarry, unfinished in the quarry will be unfinished in the quarry all of a sudden around the entire planet, but everything is unfinished. Something happened globally that made people stop working on these structures and go to maybe Darren Cooley, underground base or in the Americas that, you know, they say that the people, the hope he say the ant people took them under.

1:33:32If you couldn't go under and save yourself, you had a ship. We know that Zia Zidra in the Epic of Gilgamesh was told how to build the ship. But it wasn't a boat like what we know was said in the Bible. It was actually a disc. He was told to build. We found the tablet for that. So we have the tablet in the British Museum. It was an actual disc that looked like pi sections on the inside. And he was told to collect his local floor in Fauna and his local livestock, not two of every kind in the world. It didn't get two ticks and two fleas and two. It didn't happen. You know, he had local livestock, but he built a disc, not a ship, which is pretty interesting.

1:34:05But yeah, these stories are everywhere, you know, it's pretty crazy. It is crazy. And it's just so strange when you see resistance to the idea while there's still real evidence of this impact. Once there was real evidence of the impact, once the younger triacy impact theory started being discussed by legitimate scientists. And they recognized when they were doing these core samples that they find nuclear glass and they find all of these things like a radium that are very common in space, very rare on earth, all this very thin layer. It's like, it's real clear. There's a time where all this shit goes down.

1:34:41Yeah, it happened. And there's also mass diopts in places. And my friend, John Reeves, have you ever seen the Alaska bone yard on Instagram? No, I have seen that one. Wow. Jamie, pull that up. So he has this piece of land and he's a gold miner in Alaska. He's a fucking great character. And he has this amazing piece of land that they've pulled out thousands of bones and tusks and woolly mammoths and animals that aren't the bone yard Alaska is his Instagram. That things that weren't even supposed to exist in that area. They have absolute proof of these things existed. Different cats and short face bears and all kinds of shit.

1:35:25So they're pulling things out every day. He just texted me the other day asking me to come out and blow out a massacred bone. I can't make it, bro. I can't make it. I'm busy, but I love this, dude. And what he's doing up there is all his. His property. Incredible. So he's got it all documented. He's got warehouses. He spent millions of dollars doing all this stuff. And his one area is only a few acres, man. Wow. It's only a few acres. Imagine what's really up there. And what he thinks is that there was a mass die -off that probably happened instantaneously and all these things got swept in the water and washed down into this one particular area where they collected and that's where he's finding them.

1:36:04Gotcha. That makes sense. So he's got two very specific areas that aren't that big. Just a few acres each. I think the biggest one is like six acres. It's crazy. And so they use in these high -pressure hoses and they shoot into the permafrost. And they look, because it's cold. It's cold. It's cold up there. So everything is just frozen into the ground. So they blast into the permafrost and start to loosen things up and show some of the images of the warehouses that he has. I mean insane amounts of tusks and bones. And there's even more than this. What is the museum in New York that has his bones?

1:36:43Natural History Museum from the previous owners of this property. They took a bunch of these bones and they wind up dumping some of them in the East River because they had too many of them. So then they've sent out people. What is his name? Dirty Water Dan? Don. Dirty Water Don. Dirty Water Dan, who's this fucking scuba diver guy who goes into the East River, who found Wolly Mammoth bones. Wow. And what would the other one? Bison bones. All these different bones at the bottom of the fucking East River. Exactly. Exactly where he said they would be dumped off. Wow. So they dumped them because they had so much of them and then they have a bunch of them that are still there.

1:37:18So now they have a last -can -politicians who are pressuring the museum to release these things back to these people. So they can get them in the hands of people that could fucking study them. Right. Because they just have them locked up and they're just trying to say that they're theirs. Yeah. Yeah. First they tried to deny they have them, then he provided paperwork and there's proof and then they denied there was ever any dumped into the East River. They want to keep them out of the East River. Now they know. It's real. So look at this. That's incredible. That's incredible. Incredible. This is insane.

1:37:44Wow. Boning. He calls them when you help your, it's a bone yard. So if you go there, you become a boner. So he wants to make me an official boner. So all these bones. I mean, this is just a small sampling of what this guy has. We have one out there. We have a bison head that he gave me. Well, I thought I'd do that. Yeah, that's what that is. That's probably 15 ,000 years old as well. Yeah, that's crazy. The whole thing is insane. Look at all this stuff he's got. I mean, it's just, and this is just one small area that they're chipping away at. A few acres. So, and there's charred surface. There's a layer that they go through that's all completely charred.

1:38:21And he's documented this too. Like, what the fuck happened here? Look at this layer. This layer is insane. This whole place was up in flames. See, the char, he's got it in his hand. There's thick layers of that. Can we scroll up to his caption? What does it say? Something came in hot from out of this world I'm thinking. What you're looking at is what we found on the bedrock and we're digging the drain. The bedrock is burned. The gravel is burned and nobody knows why yet. That's okay. We'll figure it out someday. So there's a whole layer of this. It's clearly something was on fucking fire. Definitely.

1:38:53Well, we found charred stones just like that at the base, ejected out from the base of the bent pyramid of Dozier. Really? And if you look at this, we've been documenting this. I'm putting in my TV show, you know, the internautical series. There's areas of the bent pyramid that look like they've been blown out. Something hit it and blew out the stones and charred them black, like just like that. And there's like a debris field out there. And nobody is studying this stuff. So we started studying these charred stones and these charred rocks. And up above the area where you kind of walk in to go down into the bent pyramid, there's more.

1:39:28Look like an impact point where there's more stones blown away. And as you walk out away from the face, you discover that's where they lay and you put your hand in the sand and pull up these charred burnt stones, which is just wild. So can we see something like that? Look at the bent pyramid. The bent pyramid. If anybody goes to those corners, they'll be able to show. So, in theory, this theory of being hit by something? Nobody's talked about it yet. That's why I'm trying to analyze and see what could have happened. A piece hit there, but like the bigger impact where somewhere else just wiped it out.

1:40:00When something comes in, it breaks into chunks. And then a piece hits over here. See that corner there? You see that corner? Now that corner, I wish we could get a better color picture, but there's a debris field there. All those stones, it looks like an impact and there's out away from it. There's charred burnt rocks in the sand. You pick up a regular piece of rock. You can see what that is. A geo. You put it up. These, it looks like charred burnt stone that came from the pyramids zone. I like to see the image of the charkers. To me, when I'm looking at that, it's just like people are stealing rocks.

1:40:31Yeah, but that's exactly what it looks like, but that's not stealing rocks there. The guy, the homegrown archaeologist that was with it, Mahamadi Brahim, has the same exact belief because we are able to see the broken, those areas there, the mass of what's missing, the majority of it's in the sand, which is why I would send you the photo. Oh, okay. So it wasn't stolen. Yeah, they're knocked off. Yeah, it's there. It's still there. Oh, okay. So I'll send you the photo that we have. Jamie, could you please click on the one to the left of your cursor? Yeah, that one. Thank you. Can you make that one bigger?

1:41:03I see. Yeah. So all that got blown apart. It's blown apart and the mass is still there. A lot of it turned into dust and powder, but the black pieces are further toward, would be further toward me. Can you tell us where we could find images of those, the charred? I have some. Can you show them to Jamie or send them to Jamie? I'll send them to you right away. Absolutely. You can't air -dry it because you're using foreign technology, not even. Yeah, we'll just download them and email them to you. But we want to be able to do it now. There are no photo drive right now. Could you just send it to him?

1:41:33Yeah. If you got you an email, we'll do it right now. Absolutely. Okay, Jamie, will you give me an email? We'll pause here for a second. We can find these images. We don't have a board you would need. Okay. Okay, so we left off with the burnt pyramid areas that look like they've been hit. So we got the photographs from your wife. So let's take a look at them here.

1:41:55So this is a video? Yeah, I just had the videos because they were going to give me screenshots from the videos. So I figured we just look at the videos instead. There's one that's kind of more zoomed in. Yeah, sorry to get the idea of the coloration, the discoloration there from the color resolution. So, you know, phone video. Do we have any other videos? Is it just videos, Jamie, or we have photo? Oh, okay. You can see those areas here. That's those black areas on the stone. If you rub them, they get very black underneath. There's also other pieces that are smaller laying further out. So there's charred areas that have been covered with dust and sand over time.

1:42:30Right, exactly. But if you brush it off, you see a char. You see those dark areas there on those stones? Yeah. Pause that. Pause that. Check it out. That's not the natural color at all. Those colors there and the geologists and the homegrown guide that we use in the archaeologist also said that's not the normal coloration. They don't know what energetically happened here. Okay, so now I see it. I see it in that. Stop right there. I see it in that stone right there as well. So charred and then over the thousands of years covered with dust and sand. Right. But if you dust off the dust and sand, you see this.

1:43:03Yes, charred surface. Right. Yeah. Which is crazy. Well, that does kind of make sense of a little chunk hit that. Yeah. And a bunch hit some other spots and that was just, yeah. And it also makes sense if you think about how an advanced civilization like that can just disappear. What would have to be the moment? It just doesn't make any sense. I know there's the burning of the library of Alexandria where they lost a lot of the information. I think that might have been a book heist. Really? Yeah, I think the burning of the library of Alexandria was the heist. The burning did happen. Don't get me wrong.

1:43:39But that was just a distraction to steal the knowledge and that the majority of that knowledge ended up in the Vatican archives. That's what I believe. Vatican is one of my favorites. Yeah. That's one of my favorites. I went there with my family a few years back and I was blown away and I highly recommended to anybody that gets to go to Rome. If you go to Rome, please go to the Vatican. It's stunning. Yeah. It's stunning all the artwork they have and they also have an Egyptian obelisk. Yes, right. It's the center. And you know, that obelisk, that courtyard is the same courtyard as Tio Tuacan. If you look at Tio Tuacan.

1:44:16Not the dimensions, but just the actual shape of that courtyard. It matches the courtyard of Tio Tuacan. Really? Yeah, it's an incredible coincidence that they built it based on the Tio Tuacan where the avenue of the dead has those platforms. And then you have the pyramid of the sun on the right and the pyramid of the moon straight ahead. That area resembles the courtyard of the Vatican. Wow. The Vatican is so insane. It really, I didn't know. I knew that it had a lot of art. I didn't know. It's outrageous. When you go to St. Peter's Basilica, you're just like, what? What did you do? Yeah. How much time did this take?

1:44:57This is so intricate and so incredible. It's one of the most spectacular things I think I've ever seen in my life in terms of like what human beings can do with ingenuity and time and artisans and craftsmen and people that artisans that just create the most insane ceiling you've ever seen in your life. So intricate. I mean, and perfect for a house of worship because you walk in there and you believe in God, like immediately. Right. Like, this is obviously a shrine to God. Right. Exactly. And the fact that they did it for so long, hundreds of years to make that place. I know. It's incredible. It's so amazing.

1:45:34Unless you know that the time periods where people would operate within a golden age in certain regions of the planet and have time to do that type of extensive art and craft and beauty, create that kind of beauty. Right. And the only way you do that is when you got your resources covered in your army strong. That's it. And that was Rome. I mean, that's what they were back then. They tried to take over the world. Yeah. And the thing about what they have is they don't have to kind of tell you. So if they do like there's archives that they have in Rome that haven't been searched, like we're not they're not just opening them up to everyone.

1:46:09Right. So everyone could look in and see what they have. So there's always been speculation that they have some wild shit written down in there. Yeah. Some wild stuff. I mean, they're investigating aliens, you know. Right. I mean, one of the Pope's most recent speeches, you know, they were talking about years ago though, here we're talking about years ago that they wanted the Pope wanted to baptize the first alien. Now, that's incredible. That's an incredible statement. That would be like turning Michio Kaku into a scientist. Right. It's like that would be hilarious. I know. That would be hilarious.

1:46:42And then they built this telescope called Lucifer to look for alien life. That's not a good name. You would think of it. Anybody who would know better. Right. The lightbearers that, you know, what Lucifer means supposedly, but yeah, they built the telescope named Lucifer. Right. But the swastika used to be a sign of peace. Right. You can't really use it anymore. No, you can't use it anymore. I know. I know. I know. Yeah. It's like things can be stolen forever. No one's rocking that Hitler mustache. No, that's a wrap. It's over. Hitler mustache is over. No one's getting called Adolf. That's over.

1:47:12That's over. You know, that name. That's right. I guess they didn't want to, you know, cut that name Lucifer, but they utilized that name for that, the name of that. And it's actually in America. I believe it's in Arizona. Really? Yeah. No kidding. Wow. Lucifer telescope. Oh, kooky. I know. All of the telescopes are fascinating. But what's really the most interesting to me is the James Webb and the information that's coming out about the birth of the cosmos and about how they're looking at these galaxies that seem too big that they form too quickly and that they're starting to reexamine the timeline of the Big Bang and that they're reconsidering whether or not they were correct with this 13 point.

1:47:51What is it? 13 .5 to 13 .8 billion year. Yeah. And they think these galaxies should not exist in this. I was just watching a documentary on it yesterday or a couple days ago where they were getting into why this doesn't make sense and the size of these galaxies and they were too formed. I believe it was 500 million years after the Big Bang. Right. So this doesn't make sense. Yeah. According to us now. According to us. According to us. We're still trying to figure out what dark matter is. Right. Well, I'm just the Terrence Howard, the concept of stars creating planets and the planets eventually getting to a goalie -lock zone and then eventually getting out and that this is how life propagates through the universe.

1:48:34It makes so much sense and with our limited understanding of the cosmos and our adherence to very specific ideas of how it all was created and the resistance to things like even the James Webb telescopes discoveries. Yeah. You realize that like science, like everything else, it's when it's practiced by humans, humans fuck everything up. They use their ego, they use arrogance, they don't want to be corrected, they want their initial ideas to be correct. And then there's a lot of great scientists that are just looking at it and going, this is amazing. Let's keep doing this and let's get an even better telescope out there that maybe could see even further and maybe we'll have to re -examine what we think about the birth of the universe.

1:49:20Exactly. It just keeps getting better, technology keeps getting better. I remember Hubble when it came back with the two trillion skybook, two trillion galaxies is what it estimated exists within our known universe and then the web comes out and it's just showing this stuff in much more clarity and it's probably going to make discoveries that are even going to surpass obviously Hubble in terms of the quantity of galaxies and just keeps getting better and better. We're getting a bigger and better understanding of our place in the universe as a whole. And some people are scared of that. This is why they don't want it to get out.

1:49:50They don't want the information to be put forth that's going to change the paradigm. But the paradigm is not to be afraid, the paradigm shift is about to be embraced. Embrace this new huge part of us that's connected directly to us. We're part of it in this part of us intrinsically, energetically. And I think people are just afraid of what they think is the unknown because it makes them feel small. When I hear all this stuff going on out there, it makes me feel bigger because I know that I am part of it. Yeah, we are part of it. But we like to think as individuals. Right. You know, oh my god, I'm not important.

1:50:24The universe is infinite. Exactly. The universe is not just infinite. It's so infinite that the infinite nature of the universe might be a part of an atom. Right. And another infinite universe. That's the fractal heart. It's just like universe. Yeah. When you go fractals on things and you start thinking about it in that terms, you just know, what? Yeah. It's never ending. It's just this constant thing that's in you in subatomic particles and deeper than that and then further out than that, it just never ends. It goes both ways forever. Yeah. Yeah. Oh boy. It's hard to take yourself too seriously.

1:50:55It's this and it's hard because I think individuality, I think individuality is an illusion. We appear to be separate in individuals, but energetically we're really all the same entity, the same consciousness, experience in itself differently, subjectively through different bodies. Yes. Different life experiences, different genetics, different places in the world. Correct. Yeah, but we're all the same thing. Yeah. And you know, that's the hardest thing for people to get in their head. Anyone that you run into is you living another life. Right. We're all the concept of me. When you think about it, everyone has that same feeling of me.

1:51:31Everyone has me inside of them. And just me with less information, more information, better brain, better this, better that, shittier, the shittier that, and there's an infinite number of examples of it. And then it probably exists everywhere in the cosmos. And it's probably what facilitates change and growth is that there is this imbalance. And if there is this constant struggle amongst human beings, that's probably what makes us constantly try to improve. Exactly. It's very disheartening to think that we improve to the point where we can travel other planets and have a war. I know. I know. We don't want that to happen.

1:52:01We don't want it to happen, but just if it really did happen here, it just makes you think, like, is that just what we do forever? And is this just when we have this utopian perspective of being able to eliminate war on Earth someday, which no one thinks is going to happen, and not with this current version of human beings? And then you think, well, if we surpassed Earth, if we passed out, if we passed our genes and our civilization out into the universe, are we still going to be behaving the same way? Right. And if we were, if I was an alien, I'd be like, don't let those dudes in. You know, if we get to a point where we're us now, but 500 years from now, we're with the same genes, same wacky, ass crazy genes.

1:52:43But now we have time travel. Now we have interplanetary travels like that. And then we show up with nuclear bombs to give us all your titanium. Right. You know, like, fuck. You know, like, that's a problem. Yeah. That could be a problem. I would be really trying hard to stop us if I was from another planet. I think a lot of a lot of these suppression and oppression of technologies, potentially, this hypothesis could be that there's a hand in the background holding us back a little bit. It's quite possible. But then there's a theory like the Diana Pasolka's books where they talk about these discs that they have found in the recovery program that apparently does exist.

1:53:19They call them donations. They think that these things are kind of left here so that we can just go, oh, fiber optics. What a great idea. Velcro. Oh, yeah. There's a lot of these things that seem to like transistors. Microchips. Right. Yeah. A lot of these things seem to have come very quickly after Roswell, which is interesting. That's the fact. I believe in the ARVs, Alien Reproduction Vehicles. I believe that exactly is what's really going on with a lot of these UAPs. I think that there are a lot of them hours. I believe that there's UFOs out there, but a lot of these objects that we see in the sky are probably made by us by reengineering existing alien technology.

1:53:59But it comes to the point, are we going to be able to advance as a civilization to get beyond war? I just saw they release an AI fighter jet that went into a dog fight just a few weeks ago. Yeah. Mike Baker was on here showing us that. Right. It beats the human piloted planes 100 % of the time. Yeah. That's a wrap. That's kind of. Yeah. That's kind of a line. And then on top of that, instead of just AI -powered fighter jet, you could develop a fighter jet that no longer has a person in it, so you have to worry about G -forces. Right. You could do wild shit. Yes. And it's fully AI -controlled vehicle, especially as these technology scale up.

1:54:34Like I have a Tesla. And my Tesla has Auto Drive. And I can set it in a destination like a restaurant I like to go to. Press Auto Drive in Navigation. And it does everything. It hits the blinkers. It stops at stop signs. It stops at red lights. It takes turns. It changes lanes. It moves around park vehicles. It's fucking wild, man. And it's not done yet. And this is the beginning. Yeah, it does hit curbs or. I heard it hits curbs. I heard like when you take in turns like for overpasses or underpasses. Oh, man. Like a few people have curbed up. So keep your hands on the wheels kids. But it's not there yet.

1:55:11But it's a lot better than what when I first got it. I remember I was driving down Laurel Canyon. And I was with my wife and I was playing around. I was like, we're like, we're listening to Led Zeppelin. And I'm like, moving my hand around the steering wheel. I'm like, look at this car's driving itself. This is crazy. But that was primitive back then. I didn't totally trust it. It was probably better than I thought it was. But like every now and then it would get a little wonky. Now it's smooth. Now it's you use it all Jamie? No. You're here and there. I kind of almost forget sometimes where that's like, oh yeah, this car drives this fucking cell.

1:55:45I do it for a goof sometimes. Yes, just randomly. I've been doing it a lot lately though. It's shockingly good. A lot of grandkids are going to, that's all they're going to know. 100%. They won't have to drive at all. Yeah, but right now like people joke around about manual cars that it's a good theft deterrent device. Have a manual transmission. Nobody knows how to drive that fucking thing. This is hard. Yeah, well used to be the only way you could get a car. That was it. I learned to buy accident, you know, because I was an emergency situation. And I had to drive up my friend's car. That was a manual.

1:56:12I had to learn within the distance between where I was to where I had to go. Oh wow, cause one of my kids had got hurt doing something. And the only car available manual. That was it. Yeah, it's hard. I mean, you could learn it quick, but most people don't know how to do it. But the thing is like, that's going away. Like they're now saying that the next version of Porsche is just going to be the last version that they have with the manual transmission. And all, yeah, which is crazy because Porsche, that was the one thing that people held onto was that you could get that stick shift. People love that engagement of the car.

1:56:40Right. But that's going to be the thing of the past. Everything's going to be automated because your freedom to drive that, people are going to, you know, the communist nature of especially California, they'll do it first probably. Your freedom to drive that is not worth, you know, the potential of you taking someone's life in an accident. Right. You know, and this is makes sense. That's part of the problem. It does make sense. You can see the argument. Oh yeah, it makes sense. And that's where everything is going to come in. There's going to be so many, I mean, drivers are going to disappear like, you know, show first and so forth.

1:57:09Oh yeah. It's all going to go away. There's a lot of that in here. They cause traffic jams. These wacky driverless cars, you know, they have them here. And they're not quite there yet, but they're good enough to take people around, which is crazy, you know, take me to red astrot, drive you to the restaurant, drop you off. Bye, thank you. All in an app, everything's done simple. Yeah. It's kind of nuts and it's just the beginning. I mean, we didn't have any of this 10 years ago. 10 years in most time periods is not that big of a deal technology with technologically rather. Yeah, right now it's very fast.

1:57:39Well, Chattachee BT 5, when they release that, it's going to be as big a leap, if not bigger than three to four, and three to four was nuts. Yeah. I mean, in a hundred years, we went from a horse bugging carriage all the way to putting remote control cars on Mars. So we're moving at an extremely fast pace right now, and they just released this Chattachee BT and other robotics on humanity, which is great. It's going to do a lot of good for us, but at the same time, if you're going to replace somebody's job, you have to then take away their financial responsibility. You can't expect them to still have the financial responsibility and take away the job.

1:58:10So that's going to be the conundrum. I'm waiting to see how that's going to pan out. How many of us are going to stand up and say, look, wait a minute now. I'm a single mother of three, and I can't wait for this anymore. So what's going to happen? Or even attorneys are at risk. Nurses are at risk now. So what are they going to do? There's enough money in this country, just in this country alone. To, if you did replace jobs, you'd make it so that whatever controls that industry has to give a certain percentage to ensure not just like a living wage, but a good wage. Where people live well, and they don't have to think about it.

1:58:49But then you've got to give people a purpose. Because you can't just have them laying around, getting free money and not having a life. Because a lot of people, their purpose is their job. That's what they look forward to. They get engaged with something. They have a community there. They have tasks that they do. They succeed. They go out to dinner and celebrate. That's a big part of life for people. You can't just take that away. So then how does that get replaced? I think it's video games. I think they're going to go into cyber world. When you look into the ancient texts, they had similar situations in these golden ages.

1:59:20But people spent time working for things like servers to others, traveling, arts and crafts, exploring inner peace. So it's about teaching people new ways to define and develop their passions and how to explore those passions. Well, that would be a big yoga explosion. A closer country. That would be cool. That would be great. People get into fitness, martial arts, and just be able to do stuff. But you have to do something. Right. If you become stagnant, you die. Yeah. And you still should have the ability to possibly work if you want to. Right? It shouldn't be mutually exclusive. You don't get this money unless if everybody got like 200 grand a year, just to imagine the entire country just gets a 300 -200 -year year.

2:00:01You're never going to have to worry about food. You never going to have to worry about a place to live. You're good. You got $200 ,000 a year because everything's automated. Everything's done by the government. Then you're going to have to find something. You're going to have to find a purpose. You're going to be a thing whether it's art or writing or whatever it is. Whatever it is. You better find something. You're going to go crazy. And then there's going to be a percentage of our population that's active. They're going to be working out. And there's going to be a bunch of us that just fuck off and drink beer and play, call a dude.

2:00:30Just sit down. Yeah, just get hammered and fucking order pizza and never have to do anything. Yeah, living in a nice place. You don't have to worry about money ever. You could always buy a good laptop and you get together with your buddies and you all play games. But you better have something, go bowling. You better have something. You better have something you like to do. Yeah, yeah. Because that's where it's going though. But wouldn't that be better than work? Because for most people, there's a great satisfaction working and accomplishing a hard day's work. You get your paycheck and you feel like you've accomplished something.

2:01:02But wouldn't it be better if you just all of your needs were met? And we put an emphasis in our culture on creating and doing things that interest you and whether it's competition or whatever it is. But this will be financed, essentially, by this ability to just get free money. Because robots control everything. They have plenty of money. No more jobs. No more jobs. They don't have to pay a salary to these robots. Only the care costs. Exactly. And management costs, obviously. So yeah, it would be great. And the $200 ,000 that everybody gets, they're getting it anyway, because they were going to buy stuff from them.

2:01:38Exactly. It would be a wild change and shift in how human beings interact it. And if there was a way for us to channel that in a positive manner, it could ultimately be beneficial. And we could be looking back on these days where people had to work at Wendy's. And what the fuck was that about? Well, most people are working in jobs that are not passionate about these jobs. Right. And it's evident in their work, their effort and their work ethics. It's also evident in their success, right? And their happiness. Right. Like a guy like you who likes to do what you like. You enjoy this. You pursue this.

2:02:10You talk about this. You're very good at it. This is a great way to live. Yeah. And other people can find other similar things or different things that similarly excite them. Yeah. And if we were under that new scenario of 200 ,000 a year, whatever it was, I would still do this, of course. Of course. People will work. It's like Star Trek. They work for free on Star Trek. They don't, you know, that's just a TV series, but they don't have a paycheck. Kirk didn't get paid. No, they never got paid any money. Wow. It was all for free. Communists. They were trying to send us in the communists. And it's all for free.

2:02:38But they did it because they were passionate about it. They believed in it so much. And so there's things that people can still do if they're passionate about those things. And, you know, it's just work, but you don't act for a paycheck. Right. If there was a base paycheck for the whole country, just a base paycheck based on, I'm wonder if 200 grand is even possible. What is $200 ,000 times $333 million? Check that out, Jamie. What's... That's all you do. And only 190 million are adults. 190 million adults. Right. That's right. Let's just make, let's be generous. Let's make it 200 million adults.

2:03:12Yeah. So 200 million times 200 ,000 is what? Well, yeah, it's sad. So it'd be... Two times two is four. I'd add all the zeros from the 200 ,000 onto the 4 million. Right. What is that in like the word? Is it trillions? 200 ,000. 200 ,000 times 200 million. 200 ,000 ,000's got eight zeros. Shit. So six zeros. Six zeros is a billion. Nine zeros is... No, six zeros a million. Nine zeros is a trillion. It's giving me four E 13. So it's four 13 zeros. 13 zeros. Four 13 zeros. Four 13 zeros. Four 13 zeros. Four 13 zeros. It's a lot of money, folks. Yeah. Good enough to drain these oligarchs. Well, tax the rich.

2:04:05What was the numbers? 200 ,000 times 200 million. 40 billion, that doesn't sound right. That is going to be... Do you have a 40 billion or 400 billion? It's a 40 billion dollars. 40 billion, that's it. That's it. That's so reasonable. That's so reasonable. That's less than the military industrial complex budget for the year. 100%. Imagine that, folks. I just want you to think about that. We could give 200 million people 200 ,000 dollars a year. That's a good amount of money. 200 ,000 dollars is nice. You can live in a nice house. Go on vacation. You can eat well. 200 ,000 dollars. Yeah, not bad at all.

2:04:47Not bad at all. And if you did that, you could also still work. You could also still make money. But everybody, if we just elevated every adult in this country to that amount of money. It will do. You're talking communist. No, I'm talking. Everything's going to be automated, folks. And there should be some sort of attacks on the result that this has on society, particularly when... If everything is automated, the people who run the automation and they're going to be making staggering amounts of money. So if a tax of 40 billion dollars a year to keep everybody happy, keep everybody from going, fucking crazy, I mean, that might be...

2:05:24It sounds crazy. Because it goes against human instincts, right? Like human nature is... Go against our program. Yes. What we've been programmed to believe is correct. And is that because we were designed to mind for gold. That's right. Designed to work hard, right? Designed to work hard, man. Because it's kind of in our head that we have to work hard. Listen, we're so programmed to believe what happened in ancient times that we believe the government is a control of us. And we're in control of the government. Right. We allow them to tell us what to do when we should be telling them what to do and what we want.

2:05:52But we sit back and allow them to put rules in place, laws on us, and even lock us up and do things to us. And there's nothing we can do about it, but people think there's nothing we can do. There is something we can do. We've given up our power. We've relinquished our power to an outside source. Because of dividing concrete, it allows it to work. Once we realize that dividing concrete is just a distraction that we should coordinate together and organize, then we can take back control of this planet. Yeah. And this idea of the government being in control of you is literally how it works with every single country in the world.

2:06:25It's just a natural course of human nature that the people in power want more power. When you're selling skateboards, you want to sell more skateboards next year. When you're in power, you don't want to relinquish some of your power and make it better on the people. No, you want to clamp down that power more. We had to get on Facebook and stop these people from tweeting about things or posting about things. We have to become a problem. Let's put pressure on this company to censor certain voices on YouTube. Exactly. And that's the shit that happens. That's really what happens. Because they're not acting in the best interests of humanity.

2:06:57They're acting in their best interests, which is what every industry does when it's just trying to make money. Exactly. Well, the United States is a company. It's a corporation. Right. And so they're acting like a corporation. That's the reality of it. I agree with you too about this UAP thing, UFO, UAP. I just, many people have said this, but I'll repeat it. There's something about them doing it always near -ward military bases on a two -dits super suspicious. Come on. Listen, to me, what's going to happen or what potentially could happen? Another Gulf of Tunkin incident. You know, the incident that created the Vietnamese War, they lied about an attack at the Gulf of Tunkin.

2:07:32False flag. To create the Vietnamese War. Yeah, exactly. So all of a sudden, you see one of these UAPs that are going to call it one of these nine hours. We don't know who it is. And then it attacks a Navy vessel. Yep. And now they've got the right to say, we need $10 trillion a year, whatever the number is, to create these weapons. You'll have to be wrong. Yeah. And then it generates more money. Yeah. So, you know, could this be why the formation of the Space Force is here? So they can find a way to channel money into something else, whether these private corporations can create these black budget projects that we've approved because we're afraid we're going to be attacked by aliens now.

2:08:07And then they take that money and they develop these projects that never see the light of day. And they all chop up the money behind the scenes. Yeah. That's the reality of the world we live in, folks. And if you're clinging on to this left versus right, this are these cultural war arguments. Yeah. You are getting caught up in their bullshit game. Most people want the same thing. They want to be healthy. They want their family to be healthy and happy. They want to have a pursuit that they enjoy. They want to enjoy their community. Enjoy their loved ones. That's what most people want. Most people want the same thing.

2:08:39Yeah. Most of the shit that you're seeing has all been stirred up by foreign governments and special interest groups and a bunch of shit. And if you're online, they're spoon feeding it to you. If you're online and you're engaging on social media, they are shoving that down your throat. But gaslighting every day. Gaslighting you every day. And it's more and more obvious now that it's ever been before because people at least are aware of it. They know what's going on, but it is shocking how much of it is going on. And it's allowing us to fight with each other why all this shit is going on behind the scenes and all these hundreds of billions of dollars.

2:09:12I mean, we talked about $40 billion a year. Yeah. What is the amount of money we spent so far in Ukraine? What's the... They continue to raise it, right? They just approved a new batch of money that's headed over there. It's insane amounts of money. No numbers are incredible. And we have infrastructure falling apart here. People on the... I just came from LA a few weeks ago. People on the streets of LA. OK. You know? So Congress passed five bills appropriating 175 billion in response to Russia's February 22nd of the Asian of Ukraine. So this is the May 9th of 2024, which is the most recent. So 175 billion, that could have solved all poverty in America.

2:09:56Yeah. Literally solved poverty. Yeah. Which is wild. Yeah. If poverty and crime are number one problem in this country, which I would say they are, that would solve our number one problem. The crime is a side effect. 100 % of the poverty. Yes. And, you know, I always said this, if Hal Burton can get these no bid contracts to clean up Iraq after we bomb it, and it's for profit. So they make a lot of money doing that. How about a no bid contract to clean up terrible neighborhoods? Exactly. No bid contract to a no bid contract, rather to develop community programs. And they'll be funded through the stay.

2:10:34You'll make a ton of money. You can do this. And also you'll have a ripple effect. You'll have a less crime. You'll have more people that are out there in the workforce. You'll have more people that are being productive. More people that are inventing things and creating music and culture and art and all kinds of other things that people like to do. And they're not getting locked up and fucking jail. Exactly. And then you just have to figure out a way to get off the grip of the military or the rather prison industrial complex. Which has a vested interest in keeping people locked up because that's what the idea that we let that happen.

2:11:02I know. We let it be profitable to put people in fucking jail. And then we let the prison guards actively campaign to make sure that certain laws stay in place so that people keep getting locked up for non -violent crimes. Yeah. Forty percent of the people that are locked up in America are locked up on victimless crimes. Yeah. They only hurt themselves. It's so nuts. Yeah. And the amount of money that's generated by private prisons, that should be zero. Yeah. It should be zero dollars. Right. There should be no incentive to put people in a cage. Yeah, you can't have capitalism and everything. Capitalism has to be broken into pieces.

2:11:35You can't have it in medicine, health care, prison systems. Yeah. Right. Imagine if that was the way with the fire department. Oh, man. Imagine if you had to pay to get your house put out. Right. Right. That's the one thing that we exist that we rather accept rather universally that we pay for. Yeah. It's a socialist idea. The fire department is paid for by the state. Yeah. And we need fire department people. We need everybody well trained and all the equipment to be working perfectly. We all agree to that. Why? Because it's a real dilemma. Yeah. It makes sense. It's logic. So's poverty. Yeah.

2:12:06So's crime. And mental health. And mental health. Yeah. And people on the street are mentally ill. And giving kids guidance, having community programs and having education programs and giving people like an avenue where they can get out from where they are and see a path to success so they don't feel despair. Yeah. They have a possibility. Yeah. And show and have it be run by people who have already made it through. I can help you just like you could teach someone out of the play piano. Yeah. Or you could teach someone out of Duke Karate. You could teach people out of live life. That's right. Yeah.

2:12:35And it costs a lot less than what it's costing you. And how much would it benefit our economy? How much would it benefit our culture or society? How much more would get done if there was less crime? A lot more. And then those people have all, instead of being criminals, now they're contributors. Yeah. There's enough for everybody. And the civilization grows, the way it should grow. Yes. The way it should grow. The problem is it's been captured. It's been captured by elites that want to keep draining money. And they keep draining money and using it for their own needs and their own means. And it's terrifying.

2:13:07That's why I call it polytrics. Mmm. Polytrics. That's what it's called. Yeah. We made a pretty bad math error. Oh, 200 trillion. 40 trillion. 40 trillion. Oh, thank you sir. That's a much more than a shoe. A Malaysian gentleman, I retrained my word, bucked. We're never going to have enough money to fix this problem. I forgot what I said. Which is our GDP? What is our, yeah, but that's a problem too. Because that creates inflation. What's our GDP? Fort boy, there's a big dentistry of 40 trillion and 40 billion. How many people are yelling at the computer? Oh, no. You're flunking the idiots. I worked backwards.

2:13:38One of the things it did says $875 is like, wait, that is not enough to get everybody out of here. That's hilarious. GDP increased in 2023 to 27 .36 trillion. That's our GDP every year. Yeah. Oh, so we don't even have enough money. Man, it's so short. Double our GDP. That's the 200K. If you want to go to 200K. Well, you have to give people, it's only 200 million people. It's not even everybody. Right. That's why. So we're fucked. Back to we're fucked. You just cut it down. You cut it in half. You could do it. If you do it, you cut it even then. If you have it like $80 ,000 and then people worked to earn their own money and other things.

2:14:17200 ,000 was a little off the business. Okay, so if it was 40 trillion, you could get it down to 15 trillion. It's still most of the money we make. It's still a lot. It's going to increase though significantly in the next 10 years because of the AI. Right. Yeah, all the chips and robots. When a company can lay off like Amazon lay off a thousand people and replace them with a thousand robots. Right. Their profit, but their profit margin goes up significantly within the first eight to 10 years. Yeah, what if anything is being done to provide a safety net because you can't give people 200 bucks a week.

2:14:50Right. You know, whatever it is, it's got to be a significant amount of money to actually get by. Yeah. Whatever that number is, whatever we decide that number is. The number could be less if things are covered. Like if AI becomes so efficient at creating power, we have it in our head that power must be paid for. Yeah. But if AI becomes so efficient and eliminates jobs that we decide that we're going to nationalize all of our power. And then we'll look at power the same way we were looking at the fire department. Right. And we'll be set it up as a socialist power system, which is not the worst idea in the world if you consider that most power is being generated by the use of natural resources, which really belong to the earth.

2:15:31And like that individuals are pulling these out and profiting from them wildly, especially when they're doing like offshore oil drills. Like who owns that spot? Yeah, I know. How are you able to just suck all that oil and make billions of dollars out of the ground that we all live on? Like it seems like that should be everybody's right. But then you lose the incentive for profit that allows you to go drip, dig and. You lose incentive, yeah. I think that everything is going to move, not everything, but a lot of power is going to move towards hydrogen. That's the big new push. The Navy has vessels now that run off of hydrogen that they never have to go refuel.

2:16:02Do you know that Bob is army to hydrogen Corvette in like 1990? Wow. Incredible. That's psycho. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, I mean, he was such a freak. Wow. He is such a freak. But Bob, I love that dude. I'm fascinated by him and I don't know if he's telling the truth, but boy, I hope he does. He is. But you know, one of the crazy stories about him was in the Los Alamos Labs days when he was living there in New Mexico. He developed a rocket -powered Honda. So he put a jet engine on a fucking Honda. Wow. A lot of time on his hands here. Well, he's just a genius. He's an absolute genius. Look, he talked about element 115 before we discovered element 115.

2:16:40Yes. So that's what sold me on him. Well, he also has never really varied from his story. And to tell a story for more than 30 years until the exact same story is pretty strange. Yeah. And also didn't really profit off of it. No. It's not like a thing that he's like selling Bob Lazar T shirts and you know, Bob Lazar was right baseball hats and constantly going on podcast. No, he did my podcast. Yeah. I don't even know if he's done another one. I don't know. I know he got a lot of hell for it. Yeah. I'll try to get him right back on again, but he's working on it. Well, during the Jeremy Corbell documentary, the FBI rated him, which is insane.

2:17:16It's insane. And he thinks that they believe that he has a stable version of element 115 that he has a sample of. Wow. Yeah. And so he thinks that's what they went looking for. They love to get their hands on that because it, right. The decay rate so fast. Well, the video that George Napp had, there's a video that George Napp had from a long time ago where he was demonstrating with George Napp how this element when bombarded with radio activity could distort gravity. And he showed some, he had some experiment that they did that we could show with light. I don't exactly remember what the parameters of the experiment were, but that thing is one of the things that could Vince George Napp that maybe is telling the truth.

2:17:55And this whole thing is crazy. And then when you see like these images where it shows these crafts behaving as he described, that this gravity projection generator or whatever it is, this gravity generator, whatever this thing is, whatever they weren't exactly sure. Right. Because they, at least back then in 89, but that you would turn towards where you wanted to go sideways. And that's how it would travel. Wow. And they saw these videos of these crafts doing that, of rotating. Same thing. By fighter jets. So fighter jets are locked in on them with these high speed sensors and they're locking in on the, and there's like a video where they go, finally I got it locked in.

2:18:33Right. And they're like, look at it go. Yeah, I heard that. Yeah. Yeah. See we find that video because that video is one of my favorites because the pilots are so genuinely excited about this. When they finally lock it in, I think that's the go fast. Go fast. The go fast one. And they're like, we got it. We got it locked in like, what the fuck is this thing? So have you researched any of the bananas from the ancient text? Yes. That's very, very fascinating because they, in the Bhagavad -Kita and, is this the one? Yeah, this is it. And in the Mahabharata, they talk about these flying crafts. What is this?

2:19:16Which about to, here's actually US fighter pilots. Powerful Raytheon. A displayer, pod display. I can't hear any voices.

2:19:31Oh, there it goes. Yeah. There it goes. Oh, there's just explaining how the display works. It's great, Raytheon display and how these fighter jets are using this to try to lock in on this thing. So look how it zooms in. Yeah. They see it pass by. It's going so fast they're trying to lock in on it. But they're having a hard time. So they keep adjusting and they're trying to get their sensors. Boom. So they got it. Yeah. So now they're excited. Yeah.

2:20:01What the fuck is that?

2:20:14What is that? Like what the fuck is that? That's right. It's wild man. Like I said, I just see these things and I go back to the like, you know, the Vamanis. They ran on a ferro fluid vortex engine. That's how it was described. Yeah. Ferro fluid. So they had liquid metal. Ferro fluid. Ferro fluid, which is liquid metal. And so they put liquid metal in. Is this cutie spell that? F -E -R -R -O. Ferro. Ferro. I just have a ferro fluid lamp. Yeah, really? I bought you that one thing. You like put a magnet on it and the. Oh, yeah. Where is that? Is that in storage? So you put. Oh. If you take a torus.

2:20:47We did a new one, Jamie. Orson, we were. If you take a torus and you put a ferro fluid like mercury inside of it and you magnetize the torus in a way that creates this rotation, this RPM of the mercury moving around that field and you get it up to about 60 ,000 RPMs and then you actually pressurize the torus to about 250 ,000 atmospheres. And you electrify it, you get anti -gravity properties. What? Yeah. Whoa. So you can create a anti -gravity flying device utilizing that technique and this is really, you know, well known. And how do they describe it in the text? And the text I talk about the fact that it used mercury in a rotating disc.

2:21:28Really? Yeah. And then they have some of the, you know, the flight plans and some of the layout of actually the plans of the actual ship itself, one of the ships. And so from that, you can almost hypothesize or backward engineer what it might have been able to do. And then the text says they used to take a compliment of men to many worlds. So this is incredible technology. A compliment of men to many worlds. Wow. Yeah. So do you think that the government has access to something similar to that? Oh, I believe so. 1000%. I believe they've been backwards engineering information from ancient text and, of course, any artifacts that they've found from anywhere in the world.

2:22:05They might have even gotten information from, you know, Saddam Hussein's museum because that's the first place we went. And the Gulf, after the whole situation happened with, you know, wanting to go take him out of power and kill him. They went straight to the museum. So this is the gym. We just pulled this up. It says flying with Pharaoh fluids to solve this problem. El Brad King, Ron and Elaine star professor in space systems at Michigan Tech is creating a new kind of micro thruster that assembles itself out of its own propellant when excited by a magnetic field. The tiny thruster requires no fragile needles and is essentially indestructible.

2:22:38We're working with unique material called ionic fluid, Pharaoh fluid. King says explaining that it's both magnetic and ionic, a liquid salt. When we put a magnet underneath a small pool of Pharaoh fluid, it turns into a beautiful hedgehog structure of aligned peaks when we apply a strong electric field to that array of peaks. Each one emits an individual microjet of ions. Yes, exactly. You have to electrify it. You create this electromagnetic activity. This is what it looks like. Yeah, that's just on two screws. I think it's just transverse. It's just giving you how to transfer it to yourself.

2:23:16Wow. And so you could use that as something that could propel a device. Yes, absolutely. Wow. And you don't get to reduce the gravity, the weight of an object to zero, but you significantly reduce the weight of an object. And the fact that they figure this out and that it's in the Mahabharata or the Bhagavad Gita. And the Mahabharata. Wow. And then also I think we just want to count the betas. Like what is the definition? What's the explanation for how they figure that out? Help me out. Help me out. They just say they have flying cities. They said they say they have flying cities and these cities would go to a battle sometimes against each other in the sky.

2:23:54Oh my God. Yeah. So you're talking about massive objects flying around. Right. And how do they explain that away? That's what I want to know. How do you explain that away? How do you explain somebody thousands of years ago sitting down and write a sci -fi epic? Well, not just that, but writing about a process of creating this field that now has been documented all these thousands of years later. It works now. How did you figure that out? And what are you guys doing? This happens over and over again in text. In the animal tab, it's just the book I wrote. Those talks about using thematic frequencies and light waves to create manifest solid matter.

2:24:32And what happened about four years ago in a laboratory? They used sci -matic frequencies and photons to create solid matter out of nothing. Just happened about four years ago. What did they create? They just create a few particles, you know. But the fact that we can do it, it was already in ancient text. Wow. So now we can do it on a very small scale. It's just like we can create element 115 with a collider. Correct. Same kind of thing. And it's a very small, unstable version of element 115 that only exists for a fraction of a second, but they can measure it. So but with sufficiently advanced technology, you could create it and then form a stable version of that.

2:25:07Right. Imagine being able to build an entire city by manifesting the matter needed to build the city instead of harvesting. Jesus. Instead of harvesting the city from right. 3D print the city with nanobots. With nanobots. With nanobots to build the whole city. It would manifest as it went. And you could also use that to repair things. Absolutely. So you would never have to have like construction again. Everything would be self -repairable. Correct. Self -repairable. Correct. Wow. Well, of course, if you just scale up, just think about what we can do now and keep going, make it much better and much more efficient.

2:25:41We're talking about programmable matter now. Programble matter. And what you were saying about DNA, the fact that you can encode into DNA. And that you could actually hold information in DNA. Yeah. Microsoft has created the very first DNA hard drive. So it's a molecular hard drive that works on hard technology that's hardware and also biological software. And so a device, a hard drive, decides on my cell phone, can store any enormous amount of petabytes of data. So things like teleportation are going to be possible in the near future. We've already teleported, I think, a couple of particles from Earth to the space station.

2:26:20But what's stopping us from teleporting a human being? Understanding and knowing the location of every atom and the rotation and the spirumator of every atom. That's a lot of information, a lot of storage space. Now with DNA hard drives, the storage space problem goes away. We'll be able to teleport biological beings or objects, big objects into space or wherever we want on the planet. Like Star Trek. Like Star Trek. Whoa. Who's going to be the first guy to get beamed up? Haha. Somebody's going to be a real guinea pig with that one. Yeah, we're going to have to find some petafloids. Because when you teleport, you die.

2:26:50I don't know if people know that. Oh. Yeah. Well, that's a bit of an issue. I mean, you're reborn again instantly in the other location, but it's a facsimile of you. And at the time you teleport, even the molecules that we teleport now, the original version, the original molecule, the starting matter, it's destroyed and the data is then transmitted and then it's reformulated. So a teleportation is actually the death of you and the reformation of you. Maybe they could do a better job looking at Instagram filter. You know, maybe it's just like tone a few things up, clean up a little bit, get rid of some scars or whatever.

2:27:27Get rid of some body fat. Right. Maybe they can make a better version of you. It's boss. But you have to be willing to die. Yeah. Yeah, but maybe that's hell. Maybe you come back and you have no soul. Well, they're transmitting your consciousness. So everything is safe. All of you information is safe. And we know that was done also in ancient times. Both talks in the animal tablets about being able to go into these halls of a mentee where he had rejuvenation chambers, which is what I believe is the syrupyam and sacra. And he would go into these gigantic stone boxes and he would then transfer his consciousness from his body into another body.

2:28:01And he would leave the other body that he left inside of one of those gigantic boxes, one of those gigantic, gigantic, diorite stone boxes for a hundred years while it recharged itself and rejuvenated while he said he walks amongst men, but unlike a man. What? Yeah. And he would do this for eons. He would transfer from body to body, not bodies he stole, bodies he created that he didn't create it himself through probably some of the advanced form of stem cell technology. And he would walk amongst men, but unlike a man. And he was known all around the planet because this guy lived for, he's according to the ancient Egyptians, he ruled over them for 16 ,000 years, one person.

2:28:37What? Yeah. Yeah. So was this those ancient texts like the ancient hyperglifts that show kings going back like 30 ,000 years? Well, that's these Sumerian kings list located in the Oshmoli Museum in Oxford, England. I was there myself in person to check out this stone work. And it's an incredible tablet that talks about the reigns of kings. Some kings ruled for 28 ,800 years, 14 ,000 years. I mean, 20 ,000 if the numbers are insane. These are not Egyptian? This is this is no, not Egyptian. This is these are anarchy. This is pre flood. This is postal up, sorry, anti -deluvial. And then when the flood comes, it talks about and then the flood swept over the land.

2:29:17After the flood happens, then they, they, they descend kingship from heaven back down to humans. And then the reigns of humans begin, but they're, or they're not really full humans, they're demigods, they're half human, half anarchy. And then their life spans are like, you know, much shorter because their broodling times are only like a thousand years and 800 years and 700 years, and it starts to go down, down, down, down. This is why I like know I was 600 years old. Right. Exactly. So this, this, these tablets, what do they call them again? Are you talking about the, the Sumerian kings list? Can you show me that, you know?

2:29:52I want to see what that looks like. It's a giant, four -sided tablet located in the Oshmoli Museum in Oxford, England. Yeah. And so what exactly does it say? Like, it gives you the, Is it right here? That's it right there. Those are all four sides. And how old is this? Oh, this is, you know, they're saying 6 ,000, but can you make a bigger jam? Believe me, it's much older than that. I just want to look at it. Yeah. This is a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy over tens of thousands of years in my opinion. But this text gives the reigns of kings in Shars, SHAR, a Sharris, 3600 years. So one Sharr would be 3600.

2:30:31See, 241 ,000 years of rule. On that stone right there. The Sumerian kings list. Now, if this is right, if this is all true, what a mind -blowing idea that humans have been around, that were engineered hundreds of thousands of years ago. And that this is the reason why there's this bizarre shift between lower primates and us, which you don't see in any other animal. There's nothing like it. No. There's nothing like us. Look, we have 46 chromosomes, right? Right. What happens if 48? Exactly. They describe what their chromosome number two was taken out. They call it an artificial mutation. They, they mean geneticists, fused together and two telomere caps put on, one telomere cap on each side.

2:31:20Who in the world took chromosome number two out, fused it together and put telomere caps on it. And they say that it happened as an estimated 200 ,000 years ago. Right at the time that the Sumerians have a say, they decided to make mankind to do the labor. There's no coincidence that the tablets are lining with modern science. And this, this means that a couple of things. The first thing it means that we were genetically modified. The second thing that it means is, the telomere caps limit our lifespan to about 120 years max, according to Harvard scientists. Now, in the Bible, what does it say?

2:31:52It says that my seed should not abide in man forever. His years should be 120. That was taken from the Sumerian tablets, even further back than that. Thousands of years before the Bible was written, when, when Yahweh, aka and Lil shows back up, sees the human beings building a tower into the heavens, copying a tower that they themselves had built, it pissed them off. And he said, wherever their hearts decide to do the illship, they shall achieve it. My seed should not abide in man. His years would be 120. And then he did a genetic modification at that point, I believe, with the telomeres. And he spread mankind out around the planet, and he confused their languages.

2:32:25He had a speaking different language. So we couldn't collaborate. Now we're in competition, no collaboration, dividing conqueror. And this is the tower, but that's it. That's it, man. So it was all done just to keep us from rising? Yes. We were advancing too fast, and he had to slow us down. If we shorten their lifespan, then they won't have enough time. But the time they realized who they are and what power they have, they'll be dead. And see, that's what's happened to us. So if the Anunnaki are real and Nibero is real, and Nibero is on an elliptical cycle that comes between, it's like Mars and Jupiter, right?

2:33:02Somewhere around there? Well, it's further out now. It's over time, this orbit has been pushed out. And that's just one planet that these Anunnaki people come from. They come from many planets. But do you think that this planet, Nibero, that's on an elliptical orbit, if it's coming every 3 ,600 years, wouldn't there be some sort of documentation 3 ,600 years ago at the very least? Well, you have to look for geological disasters as marker points. This object, this Nibero planet, which is mentioned by the way in the Nume Elisha, it's not a fabricated name, just so people know it's a real name in the Nume Elisha, the oldest version of the Nume Elisha says Nibero as one of the planets.

2:33:38But you look at the time frame when this thing gets close. It orbits another star. So it orbits a brown dwarf star. This brown dwarf star has the same amount of masses are sun, but it's much smaller, right? But it generates enough heat through friction and or it's orbiting planets. You can see it in two mass infrared mode coming out of the constellation of Leo if you go to a world wide telescope and download the software and all that. But the fact that modern science now admit that there's an object out there that they say orbit our sun every 40 to 100 years. That's Cory Powell from Discovery Magazine.

2:34:17He's a real astronomer. Been on Fox News. He said that on Fox News. If I can find a clip, I'll send it to you, might of fact. And so we'll find it. Yeah, we'll find it. Yeah, Fox News, Cory Powell. And so what's happening is we are seeing evidence that there is something out there that's orbiting our sun. And then our sun is a binary star system. So we used to think that our sun, one sun, and the solar system is normal. But as they looked out into space with Hubble and now the web, they discovered no, binary is more of the normal and even trinary. And so it's like, wait a minute. If binary is normal, they start looking for this object that gravitation should exist.

2:34:57And they believe that it's out there far beyond the orbit of Pluto. And that Cory Powell says, our solar system exists within our solar system. And he goes on to say, we come from there on Fox News, which is just crazy. So the idea, if you follow Terrence Howard's theory, is that matter comes from the sun, it moves away, coalesces into planets, it gets to a Goldilocks zone, life comes out of that, life becomes far more intelligent as time goes on, develops more capabilities, and then is also assisted by other beings that have been through this process already. And then if this scales out for hundreds of millions of years, you get to a point where this Nebero is, or billions of years, or whatever it takes for it to get all the way to the fuck out.

2:35:43Well, I estimate that there are about a million years ahead of us technologically. Now it could be, and then there's things that are millions of years ahead of them. Oh, way ahead of them. There's things that are far, far ahead of them. Which is, this was hard for us to scale out. We like to think that aliens of flying spaceships, that's the top of the food chain. Right. But not even close. Yeah, like I was saying before, I never got to it. Really, there's three types of beings, I think that exist. One is the physical corporeal being that could be what we see flying around in these UFOs, not all of them some of them, that visit us, that interact with us in ancient past.

2:36:12Not all are little green men, but they have very different body types. The second kind that I believe is potentially multi -dimensional beings. Okay. That there's life in every different dimension. And you know, Michio Kaku was famous for saying that the universe, they believe, has 11 dimensions. So that's 11 dimensions. We're only in the third. There's 4th, 5th, 6th, all the way up to 11, at least, or the universe, he says, would collapse. So if you're in a being in a higher dimension, you can see the past, present, and future all at once in the third. And if you say, that's an interesting place, I'd like to visit it.

2:36:43If you can actually create a phase shift in your atomic frequency, to match the atomic frequency of this dimension, you can walk right in, and then you can walk right back. And then you probably have something else that's outside of this entire universe that has the capability, maybe this is the creators of the universe itself, which is why I wrote the book, Fractal Hall Graphic Universe. Maybe there's a creator or creator outside of this entire universe that has a hand in creating this ancestral universe itself. Well, it also makes sense that if you scaled intelligent life up infinitely, you're going to reach a point where you have God -like powers.

2:37:18This being or collection of beings is hive mind, whatever it is. Yeah. It could essentially, if given 100 million years, harness the very power of the universe itself or maybe even create the universe. Create up the universe itself. Yeah. Yeah. Which is the ultimate mind -blower that intelligent life is the reason why this thing exists, that it creates this thing. We're creating universes right now as human beings on this planet. 14 college kids created a video game called No Man's Sky. No Man's Sky is on one DVD disc, and it has 80 quadrillion planets and unlimited life forms and the game never ends.

2:37:56We've talked about that, right? Yeah. That one's a weird one. Yeah, you put, but you put AI in it. Then what's going to happen? Scale up to a quantum computer. Now all of a sudden, we're going to have a virtual reality set headset. Boom. Yeah. The people in there, who are we? Where are we from? What is the big bang when we turn to console? That's the big bang for you. Sims, the Sims are going to get AI now. They're going to be asking questions. They're going to be creating their own software within the software and trying to build their own copy of a universe. We're not even close to base reality.

2:38:25We're literally living in a stacked reality. We're just one reality out of who knows Googles of actual realities that exist. Do you think the simulation theory has weight? Oh, I believe so. I just wrote a book about it. That book is about the fratco holographic universe, and I believe that we're living in a simulation. One of these books, you got a stack of it. No, I just - My books have you read? A written rather. Four. The one just came out today to fratco holographic universe. This is the Animal Tablets, the Epic of Humanity, and my financial book, woke doesn't mean broke. Financial literacy book, not the political woke either of the real woke.

2:38:58When did you start going down this road of exploring all these interesting subjects? Well, it was a long time ago. 1977 in Miami, Florida. We moved from New York to Miami next to the Opalaka Airport, living in the hood. I used to go out in the backyard, you know how it is back then. No cable TV, no cell phones, no tablets. You just go outside and play. So I'm outside in the backyard playing, but I'm looking at the airplanes go over. And this one day, this plane goes over, but it's not really a plane. It clears the horizon in seconds, not minutes. It just goes straight across. I know from as a little kid, the planes take a long time to go from one point to the other.

2:39:34It went straight across. And it was more like not a full size, not like cigar, but not an egg, kind of in between the two glowing. A attack. Almost like a tick -tack glowing metal. Yes. And then it came back and it stopped right over me, completely silent, about now I can estimate about 250 meters. And then it just went, phew, gone. And I ran into the house when I told my mom, I told her, hey, I can't believe what I just saw. And my mom said to me, son, back in the day, there were advanced beings that came to this plane. This is 1977. My mom told me. My mom's? Yeah. That's why I dedicated the book to her.

2:40:09And she said they used to live on top of mountains like in Peru and Matthew Pichu, which is why one of the greatest places I ever went, I had to go there. And so I went to the library at Rainbow Park Elementary, the next morning and I told the teacher, I have to go to the library inside the school. Rainbow Park, and I said, I need to get all the encyclopedias on space, on aerospace. And she gave me the encyclopedias on aerospace. And that's when I started researching from that exact moment. Wow. And I haven't stopped since. So you were, how old? Eight? Seven. Seven years old. Oh my god. You just got locked in.

2:40:39I got locked in. I started researching sweat -wing, delta -wing, ballistics, intercontinental ballistics. I'm looking at submarines, I'm looking at hovercraft that existed way back then, flying just that we had created in the military way back then. SR -71s and all this stuff. And I'm trying to figure out what the hell did I see. And I couldn't find it. But it took me down the path of technologies and advanced technologies and aerospace information. And I kind of became a quasi -error space historian. And that led me in further on down the line to studying architecture and seeing a connection between the two.

2:41:09And you studied both Harvard and MIT? Harvard was for ancient civilizations. I took a class and got a certificate in ancient civilizations. And MIT, I took a class in applied neuroscience and got a certificate in applied neuroscience. And do you just do this for your own edification? Just as you're interested in it? Yeah, yeah. All right, now I'm enrolled again in MIT right now for a class in AI. And when you first got down this road, we're talking about a time where there's no internet and there's no, you're just like trying to make sense of some things. Just trying to make sense, man. And this one, if you've ever seen anything since then?

2:41:43Yeah, yeah. It's actually Eddie Settie Ranch. And 2017, I believe it was. We were out there, I was out there to do a speak at this ranch in Washington State. And it's down from the basin of Mount Shasta and that's where you're at. It's called the Settie Ranch. G -Settie. Oh, okay. Yeah, E -Settie. E -C -E -T -I. It's like a private kingdom in America, actually. It's a private, they've got registered as a small kingdom. They don't even have mail or anything there. It's a weird place. I had to stay in a yard. It's really crazy out there. But I spoke there for a whole week. I had to get used to it because nobody told me about this before I got there.

2:42:16You had to stay in a yard for a week? Stay in a yard for a week. Did they have running water? And at the community bathroom. Oh, boy. S -Settie. Yeah, he said. Enlightened contact with extraterrestrial intelligence. Oh, boy. And they're just out there with no technology trying to talk to aliens. No, just out there every night sky watching basically. Really? And the video that we recorded. That's some rich, crazy person's idea. Yeah. The video that we created that night watching those UFOs in the sky actually made it onto an episode that I'm in on ancient aliens. Oh, yeah. That shows the best show to get high, too.

2:42:49You see action broughtson's show where he'd watch ancient aliens. They would just get stoned and watch ancient aliens. That shows crazy. But yeah, so we recorded some crazy footage in the skies there. What did you see? Well, they were giant disc flying around. Some were changing colors somewhere. You have video footage? It's on the episode. I sent it to ancient aliens and you know. See if you can find that. It's on show. James Gilliland, their eye who owns the ranch, licensed it and improved ancient. But if you go to East Eddie Ranch YouTube videos, you could probably find one right on YouTube right now.

2:43:20Wow. Yeah. It was incredible. So these folks are just out there trying to make contact? Not trying to make contact. Just watching. Just watching. Just like an in -amazement. There's no contact attempt there. And what? Yeah, there you go. That's it. I was there that night. That video I was standing there that night. And you know, there was a lot of activity that night. There was some crazy stuff going on. And what does this thing look like to the naked eye? We're seeing very blurry looks like zoomed in footage. Yeah. What year is this from? This is probably 2018. 2018. So you're now the outing.

2:43:54Samsung Galaxy S20. No, we didn't have. We didn't have. No, no, no. We didn't have that one back then. But from the naked eye, it looks like these giant glowing balls moving around. Sometimes they expand and get. They change colors. Sometimes they descend right down by Mount Shasta. And then they you can see they're lighting in the tree line. And then they would go back up into space again. It was just crazy stuff. Have you seen that ball lightning that they get in Texas that comes out of the mountains? No, I saw one on a railroad track. They'll ball lightning. There's this phenomenon that happens in this one particular area in Texas.

2:44:29What was it called? Marfa? Was that what it's called, Jamie? I think it's Marfa. It's like this bizarre artist community town. And they have like frequent instances of what they call the Marfa lights. And it's ball lightning that flies around out there. Wow, this is better. You don't think that could be that? No, because sometimes they would keep going until they just went out into space. And there was so many. Sometimes they would too would come and they wouldn't stir up each other. And then one would change direction and drop down by the mountain. And one would just take off in another direction.

2:44:58So someone would go slow and then go, pff, and just go, gone. How frequent does this take place? I don't know. I was only there for those seven nights. I'd say the first night we were there with that was when we saw like a 10 in the sky moving around and doing things. The second night, not too much. The third night was a little bit more, maybe four or five. So do you think that what it is is that this place has no light pollution. And they picked a very specific area that they knew these things occurred in? It's possible. No light pollution. And plus also maybe that's an area where they have an opening or access.

2:45:26I don't know who knows. I'm just now speculating now. But I don't know why. That people came from all over the world to that location. The date the week I was there to just camp out and look up at the sky. Wow. Yeah. Listen man, we covered a lot. Three hours. I really appreciate your time and appreciate all the stuff you put out there. It's so fun, so fascinating. And it's so interesting. And thank you very much for being here, man. I really had a good time. I'm really excited, man. Thank you. Please tell everybody how to find your website, all your social media, all that stuff. Yeah, well, first of all, I have my own streaming TV network called Forbidden Knowledge TV.

2:46:03It's an app on the App Store. So they can just go get there for Bidden Knowledge TV app with the number four for Bidden Knowledge. And they can get access to a lot of videos. It's stuff that you can't find on YouTube or anywhere else. You know, produce shows like the one you watched, my inner knocky series is on the on the Forbidden Knowledge TV app. And of course, I have all my books on our website for Bidden Knowledge TV on Amazon as well. And just everything for Bidden Knowledge with the number four for BIDD and Forbidden. There it is. Yes, that's my news again, man. I think we could talk for like 50 days.

2:46:33I know. I know. For sure. Thank you, Billy. Appreciate you, man. Bye, everybody.