#2162 - Tim Dillon

11 Jun 2024 · 2 h 27 min

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The Joe Rogan Experience #2162 - Tim Dillon

Guest

Tim Dillon Tim Dillon is a stand-up comic, actor, and host of "The Tim Dillon Show" podcast. His latest comedy special, "Tim Dillon: A Real Hero," is available on Netflix. He is also working on a book titled "Death by Boomers: How the Worst Generation Destroyed the Planet, but First a Child," expected in 2024.

Topics Discussed

Sunglasses and Celebrity Culture

  • Sunglasses as a Shield: Joe and Tim discuss how wearing sunglasses creates a barrier between individuals, a tactic used by celebrities to avoid interaction.
  • Fashion Trends: Conversation about the cyclical nature of trends, such as mullets and baggy clothing, how these trends re-emerge over time.

Political Commentary

  • John Fetterman: Discussion on the political landscape, focusing on John Fetterman's recovery from a stroke and potential role in politics.
  • Joe Biden: The conversation critiques President Biden's leadership, suggesting that his age and cognitive state may be liabilities. Tim jokes that Biden might not "exist" in a meaningful way, a critique of his perceived detachment.

Media and Culture

  • Hollywood and Weinstein: Tim and Joe delve into the cultural environment of Hollywood, touching on the abuses of power by figures like Harvey Weinstein. They discuss how Weinstein's actions were an open secret in Hollywood and the industry's complicity.
  • Art and Money Laundering: Explore how modern art could potentially be used as a method for money laundering due to the exorbitant prices of seemingly simplistic pieces.

Technology and Society

  • Automation and Future of Work: Discussion on how automation might affect jobs and society, with the potential for increased unemployment and societal change.
  • Role of Technology in Cultural Shifts: Analyze how technology, particularly social media and the internet, influences cultural shifts and individual behavior.

Conspiracy Theories and Truth

  • Deep State and Elections: The conversation includes speculation about potential election fraud, government manipulation, and how the 'deep state' might influence politics.
  • Assange and Whistleblowers: They discuss Julian Assange's plight and the dangers faced by whistleblowers, interspersed with a critique of government transparency.

War and International Relations

  • Conflict with China and Russia: The potential for global conflict, particularly with China and Russia, is discussed, along with speculation about geopolitical strategies and the military-industrial complex.
  • Middle East Tensions: The conversation touches on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, exploring the complexities and varied narratives from both sides.

Humor and Social Commentary

  • Pride and Social Movements: Tim discusses the commercialization of social movements like Pride, adding his comedic take on societal trends and behaviors.
  • Cultural Observations: Tim's humorous take on societal trends, such as the way people dress and live, and how it reflects broader cultural phenomena.

Key Takeaways

  • Cultural Critique: Tim Dillon offers a comedic yet poignant critique of cultural, political, and social issues, reflecting on how they shape public consciousness.
  • Political Satire: Through humor, Tim and Joe highlight the absurdities they perceive in the political landscape.
  • Interplay of Technology and Culture: The discussion underscores the significant impact of technology on modern culture, individual behavior, and societal norms.
  • Cyclical Nature of Trends: Both hosts reflect on how trends and public attitudes cycle through phases, impacting everything from fashion to geopolitical strategies.

Conclusion The episode weaves together humor and serious commentary, providing listeners with both laughs and food for thought on current events and cultural phenomena. As always, Joe Rogan and Tim Dillon offer their unique perspectives, encouraging listeners to question the status quo and think critically about the world around them.

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0:03The Joe Rogan Experience Show me my day Joe Rogan podcast my night all day You got it. I get it. I get I get I get the whole thing. You're powerful. You feel yeah You feel like you can talk shit like you're in another dimension It all the things that you do like working out and and succeeding you don't need to really do a lot of that if you put these on Yeah, you get a lot of the effects of like yours You know like being a train fighter and all that crap if you just put these on you kind of get the idea of that until someone Close you out and kills you. Yeah, you got to avoid like actual conflict.

0:43You got to run away But you do feel superior to people all for sure like you have a suit on or something Yeah, it's it keeps you away There's a distance between you and other people now that must be why celebrities wear them when they go out Prima like like we'll see like at concerts or UFC fights. You'll see celebrities with full -on sunglasses Interesting. Yeah, they're like a cat hiding underneath the chair and the tail hanging out You can't see me that can see you stupid. Yeah, no people they do give you some and a lot of people I guess are on drugs. Yeah, that's probably why and then their eyes are bugged out of their head I just think they're trying to avoid eye contact with people because then people are gonna give them a script Yeah, I think that's true.

1:28They just don't want to be left alone Yeah, I mean if you want to be left alone in public, maybe that's the only way to do it You just got to these things and they're getting bigger and bigger and these are so huge. They're crazy This is like a rich lady who gets out of a car with a small dog They're crazy and you wear them and when I got them I got them as a joke, but then you just keep doing it Because they're good because they're good They're actually fun and people come up to you and say nice things about the sunglasses Which is weird which is weird. They'll go these sunglasses are really cool and like cool people Like black people and that was you know what I mean like a black guy I'll go those shades are cool.

2:06I'll go that's great like if a guy like me says it means nothing I would throw them out, but what was for for this is like a bad sunglasses from the 80s Yeah, like what Brian Bosworth used to wear do you remember the boss? I don't who is the guy who's famous for his sunglasses He was a big -time football player. Interesting. He was one of those you know every now and then one of those fellows like What's his name the one that's dating Taylor Swift Travis Kelsey that guy like when one of those guys breaks through yeah It becomes famous. That was the boss. Oh wow see Those are I mean those are corny as shit in 2000, but here we are in 2024 They're back invest in Bell bottoms.

2:46They're absolutely back. They're absolutely back. Yeah Yeah, I had a mullet too everything comes back. Mullets are back. Yeah, Mullets are back Theo probably helped yeah, and lesbians The oh there's not enough new ideas you got to recycle certain ideas after a while you go the mohawk's not that bad Yeah, of course, what's the problem? Everything was baggy and then everything was tight and now everything's getting baggy again Yeah, the ladies are wearing baggy pants a lot of people weren't baggy stuff, but then that'll probably swing Yeah, I thought the whole idea of the tight pants is to show your body That's what it's for right for sure Yeah, what happened ladies?

3:27I don't know. Why'd you go baggy something happened? I don't get it go back to the tight stuff Yeah, that looks better well they feel No one can objectify them in a in a bay if they were a bag yet. They'll go to the gym in yoga pants that are So thin you you mean you could literally like read braille through them right and you see You see your full vagina And how and a lot of these gals are not wearing panties because they don't want the line And I want that to be a line so they have just raw pussy Yeah covered by yoga pants out there in the wild we're kind of lucky is comedians to wear Pretty much we don't like you dress up and a suit for UFC and for other stuff Yeah, but most of us don't Yeah, you know, I don't mind a suit.

4:16I like it I work if I have to go somewhere special. Yeah, throw suit on right You know, I don't mind it Sebastian's into it boy that guy they wear it I saw a sign fell to Gotham. He's in it. Oh, yeah, yeah people wear them. Blaney wears one Yeah, I think yeah, it gives you a certain you feel like you're some sort of an expert for sure You know, you're you're definitely better than the guy in the hoodie Yeah, I agree but I'm the guy the hoodie and I agree with that. Yeah, I agree to what I see sign fell Like I agree that you are and it's it's you know, it's not even fashion. He's better in every way I wear a hoodie three days a week.

4:52It's fun to wear a hoodie in jeans. Yeah, it's casual. It's a great loose I feel comfortable to great thing to just soft and to be able to make money in a hoodies grade Yes, that's the cool thing about us to have to have jeans on and go I'm gonna make money In a hoodie and jeans. I think that's what John Federman was getting into when he went into the Congress That's what he was doing. If I'm gonna be rich now. Yeah, I'm gonna dress like like what I would dress like if I like Rick Rubin He's kind of an interesting guy now because now he's starting to make sense Which is what the fuck is going on?

5:24Did the stroke knock some sense? I don't know what happened But he's like actually coming out of the gate with some like very rational things. Yeah hot good takes on everything Yeah, yeah on everything and I'm like if that's what sweatpants does Let's do it. I wonder if like when we when he was running he was recovering from the stroke And so that was why he would have those moments where his brain would sink off and we were like this guy's fucked He can't be a senator, right, but maybe what it really is is just takes a while for everything to come back And now it's all back right now. He's making sense because I haven't seen any of those videos since of him You know, there was a few videos where it was like Me if I eat like a 500 milligram edible.

6:04He was out of it. Yeah, for a period of time. Yeah, he's gone He was he was in this place where it just didn't make sense what he was saying Yeah, but now he's back and it feels like From my perspective that the things he's saying are pretty logical. What a crazy political move. Yeah, recover from a stroke publicly Right while in the middle of a campaign in a sweatsuit against a guy who's famous right in still win and still win And then get Progressively better and make more sense because our guy that's the president is getting worse And Federman's getting better. I I'm of the opinion. I think you are too.

6:45Yeah Biden doesn't exist I believe it could be the first AI thing I think he's a living human being don't get me wrong, but there's nothing there. It doesn't exist So I think every I don't think there's a question about this right So everything around him is with supporting the country which is kind of crazy Right kind of shows you that the system kind of works. Sure You know when you got a guy like that. It's a great kind of stress test to see like what happens Yeah, you get a guy that's just go and also how much you can gaslight people Into vote and form again. Yes How much you can gaslight people into voting for the people around him again It's what it really is the people you don't even know like this mysterious cabal of humans It's actually running the country well It's such a weird thing because he came out at the state of the union.

7:32He was pretty good But he was heavily drugged like something and that you might know more than I know about Like certain types of things that you can do like what you've had all these doctors on itself is there a way to make that guy Like that for the debates is he gonna be able to because now he wasn't great what I would recommend Yeah, I would find I would time it correctly, right? So I'd recommend that he got lots of sleep I would cut all the ice cream out of his diet for several days right all the bullshit of his diet then I would give him NAD infusions and IV vitamin infusions multiple days in a row like three or four days in a row Yeah, then the day of I would make sure that he eats really well Gets a lot of sleep and then I would fill him up.

8:23I'd fill him up with Adderall I'd give him testosterone. I would give him human growth hormone. I'd give him neutropics. I'd give him Everything that we know that creatine yeah It helps with it actually doesn't I'm sure it's creatine is a cognitive enhancer I'm thinking of him getting all these injections in that Just just supple just that purple skin from all the marks. Oh god that that skin that's just wound So thin it's spun so thin on his body all of the bruising from all of these needles of stuff that they need to shoot him up with to just Be coherent for an hour isn't it crazy like when Obama was president.

9:02Yeah, the worst they could get on him is remember when he wore that tan suit right Yeah, he never had a single moment publicly where he stumbled where he said something really stupid This is insane. It's insane. It's much worse than even you know remember George W. Bush And he would like you know say silly things. Yeah, it was this is like so This episode is brought to you by net suite until they invent a crystal ball who knows what the future holds for business Until then over 40 ,000 businesses have future proof their business with net suite by Oracle the number one cloud ERP bringing accounting financial management inventory and HR into one platform with real time insights and forecasting You're able to peer into the future and seize new opportunities Download the CFO's guide to AI and machine learning for free at net suite .com slash rogan that's net suite .com slash rogan Far down the road from that yet so far down the road It's so far down the road that it's like I think it's elder abuse.

10:14I really do I mean if I I mean if it was any other job it would be elder abuse Yeah, if there was a guy who is running the corner grocery store in his family was making him run it And he was that old and they had money you'd be like what the fuck are you doing your dad? Why are you making your dad work your dad's out of it? Yeah, why would you do yeah? It's there was a guy in New York this legendary guy Dom who ran this pizzeria called de faras, which is like widely thought of as the best pizza in New York And he was so old and at the very end He was just Over the pie with the oil and cutting basil and it was like you're what you felt bad Because the pie was amazing, but you're watching a guy at the end of his life Making pizza making pizza very old and he would struggle He'd put it in the thing it was hard He was like you kind of gasped and that's what we have now except it's with Russia You've been how but however if I went to a pizza place and there's a guy who loves making pizza so much and here He's fucking dying right this last days.

11:14He's still mama. I'm making nice pie. Yes. I'm gonna make He's gonna die and he fought he must love the fact that he loves his awesome. Yes. He loved it If you if you make good food, it's probably a lot like killing yeah for sure You know like you kill on stage everybody love it. Great. We had a great time. Thank you I'm so happy you don't wonder what the reward is for Biden like is it even fun? It can't be fun It can't be fun. Why does he even want to do this that guy making that pizza when someone folds a slice of that pie and go yeah Oh my god. They're on to it. It's like they're killing that guy goes I've made all of these people happy Yes, but this guy I mean this just came out in the Wall Street Journal where they're saying that he's like showing signs like behind closed doors Wait, what are you saying?

11:57I know it's crazy. It's shocking. It's what When President Biden met with congressional leaders in the West Wing in January and negotiate you crane funding deal He spoke so softly at times as some participants struggled to hear him According to five people similar familiar rather with the meeting He read from notes to make obvious points pause for extended periods and sometimes closes eyes for so long That's some of the room wondered whether he had tuned out or died But are they they can't change him out now right You you and I both thought it was gonna happen in May we were convinced I remember texting you I was convinced I actually heard from people That were in kind of you know Around the Trump campaign that thought they were also preparing to run against somebody who wasn't Biden right and They had believed that they were like it's gonna be new sum or somebody And it hasn't been so why not to sound like a nut but why are they so Why are they so committed to this guy There's something weird about there's something strange about it.

13:07Do you think that's it? I think he's the sitting president and they gaslit everybody and the thinking was fine So now they would have to change course radically to justify getting him out of office If they just had they just published an article I think it was in the times that was talking about Biden saying that his age is his superpower. Did you see that? Yes, and then Seth what's his name the guy from the fucking family guy? Seth McFarland that guy yeah retweeted it right and was like this is an amazing. I couldn't have written this better Thing Right right. Yeah, what his age is a superpower so you'd have to turn that back So you'd have to get all these people do you remember when there was a whole list of A bunch of celebrities they used to make videos where they would tell you what to do right, you know what we need to do We need to do the end of democracy remember the bunch of them did that before the 2016 election right.

14:04Yeah. Yeah Those people of all You'd have to do something like that. Yeah with Biden Well, what's interesting about Biden is they put him in kind of because they kind of stacked the democratic primary They killed the momentum of Sanders And there was a lot of people Biden was like very behind and then sprung out at the end. They manipulated it Just like they did with Hillary. Yeah, just like they this like don't Brazil rule of nerve book they manipulated it to get him in And it's just weird to me that When everyone sees it so clearly and Trump is up in every poll Why they wouldn't just have him go out give a very patriotic speech about you know what I thought I could do it But now I can't I thought I was okay because there's no one other than her so if you try to put her in again If you try to promote her as president to against Trump Democrats are gonna vote for Trump.

15:07She should lose one more time But she's gonna lose in a way that's not crazy. No, they have nobody else. That's the other thing But the thing is he should lose in a way that's crazy if you're looking at like competence because he's so old But people will vote for him just because the machine behind him has kept the country It's still relatively okay. Yeah, you're still going out to dinner. He's taking plane flights For the time of the year no aliens have landed not yet, you know You crane hasn't spilled over in New America. It's all okay. Yeah kind of kind of right? So you would probably if you're especially if you're one of those celebrities that made that video about Trump right?

15:45You can't turn course now. No, those people that's out there forever Yeah, remember those well, so that's all there's no heaven. Yeah So that remember that one I think older people kind of like some of them like it because they go Yeah, well good for him. There's a lot of older people that don't I'm gonna step down like when white guys want a white heavyweight That's exactly right and there's a lot of old people that go I'm not gonna retire Right, I'm not gonna step down. I don't want to go into a assisted living He made that pie till a day he died Yeah, he died. Yeah, he's a hundred two years old.

16:20He put the basil on drop dead. Yeah, I think they want They look at this guy and they say good for him. He's one of us. There's a little bit of that going on He's one of us. I definitely think there's a little bit of that going on. I don't think that Trump will be to my think from jail Yet 100 present trouble win. Yeah, but I don't know if it's real. Yeah, I don't know. I mean look I don't want to cry election fraud But why would I imagine that they would manipulate everything openly except the election But this is what I you know what I'm saying? But this is what I'm saying to you. Is it not possible that they haven't gone off Joe Biden because there was some fuckery In the last election well, is it not possible to some degree that they have this rabid insistence on this clearly dementia -ridden guy because There's promises have been made and there are people in positions of power that could speak I don't know anything.

17:23I'm just that's a possibility I'm just I mean, it's just a guess right who knows I'm just asking the kinds of questions that people on twitter will Yeah, call me a name for asking but we're gonna stop reading that yeah, that's true That's why don't read it boy. That's a nice Once you once you break your soul. No, I know. I'm not on it as much you feel so much better Lex goes into a dark hole every few days. I know well, it's you know I hope he doesn't read the stuff about the Kevin Spacey interview life is dark. Oh he's interviewing Spacey Yeah, god damn it. We wanted spacey I wanted spacey you can get spacey.

17:57I know, but then you're on the fifth person to have spacey You'll be the most fun. I know Weinstein's coming here first. I know you're gonna have him as soon as he gets out of jail He's never getting out jail. I hope he does. I don't think he's ever getting out of it By the way, he should isn't he in jail for the rest of his life? No, it's turning around. Joe. What do you mean? It's turning around? What are you talking about? Oh, you don't know what what's going on? They just overturned all of his convictions What well get some of what I'm what but are you fucking killing you? The prosecutors in the Harvey Weinstein case were encouraging the Whatever you want to call them right the people victims the victims and yes, and they are victims but She was encouraging them to just Went I was a juror on a murder trial and they're and you're instructed as a juror this was years ago But I was you're instructed to only consider the facts of the case.

18:51You can only discuss the facts of the case These victims were out there and they were permitted and encouraged by a very overzealous prosecutor to share things that weren't related to the case and the fact that the jury could have based their Here here it is Wednesday's hearing ahead of Weinstein's retrial comes just over a month after the New York Court of Appeals by a four to three vote ruled the testimony of prior bad acts Witnesses should not have been allowed because it was unnecessary to establish defendants intent and served only to a Stab us defendants propensity to commit the crimes charged He was convicted in the 2020 of first degree criminal sexual assault and third degree rape And then he was sentenced to 23 years in prison.

19:35He has maintained his innocence. So what are they saying now? They ever get a deal retrial How old is he now? Because he looked fucking terrible before he was going into jail. He was walking around with a cane He's in his early 70s, but this is when directors do their best work Not truly, but he's not a director Right producers whatever I have confidence in him is what I'm saying. I think you think that's gonna get out and take some ass I think he gets out. He's got a lot to prove Do you think they'll let him work? Hollywood believes in nothing. They will absolutely let him work They will let him work and he should work if they if listen if the retrial happens and they let him and it doesn't work It is what it is, you know Wow, I you know he gets out Imagine if it was all bullshit Well, I don't know how I don't it's like it couldn't be that time Well, they all did live through.

20:31Yeah was so it was this moral panic All right, right the time of you need to time watch me exactly. Yeah, everything that got you know that happened there Was originally happened. It says here. Yeah, that's separate 16 -year sentence that is not affected by this decision In California. Oh, so there's another case which who's also sentenced to so the New York trial has been So he'll be transferred to a California present. Oh, he's fucked some matter no matter where he's fucked Unless they do that one so those guys that was what they did But the crazy thing about him is he looked like that guy that would do that He looked exactly like the guy that behaved the way that he behaved.

21:10Yes. Yes, like Dave. Dave Should pal had a bit about it. Yeah, that's oh he raped right like look at him like you look at a guy It's the other thing about him It's like it's so crazy is how many photographs of famous people Were with him and how many people thanked him when they won the award of course It's so and how it was this open secret But it's just like they accepted this deal with the devil like the devil's gonna make your star if he suck as dick And apparently that's what he would do. Yeah, Whitney told me that there was girls and he knew That girls that she knew rather that did the deal and it was a deal like you suck his dick He's gonna get you in this movie and they sucked his dick and they got in the movie like you would hold up his end of the bargain Which is one of the reasons why he was so powerful because you really could he wasn't just banging everybody He really was well, let's say this though and making people families.

22:01We think that's negative But let's say him upholding his end of the deal is something Like if he puts you in the movie I think a lot of these by the way all the famous people he did it too didn't really come out Against him. No because they can't because then if they tell the truth Yeah, they were kind of because that was kind of a deal that was made not good But that was a deal and he made good on some of those promises. He made good on a lot of them apparently Yeah, this is just from what I heard But you know Tarantino was telling us about this old school Hollywood producer who had a bedroom in his office.

22:38Sure So you would go into his office and this is like you know the 60s or whatever So he had his office and then he had an a whole bedroom right in his studio. Yeah, where he would bang all the starlets Like if you wanted to be a star you had a bang that guy Which is just the deal with the devil that has always been that business that's always been there. There's always been there It's like why people start cults They always end up being sex cults right? All these 100 % of the time all of these guys on Netflix. It ends up being creepy and sexual. Yep all of them That's part of it and I think if you have that kind of power and people and you've got a steady stream of people walking in your door Yeah, and you you're also doing this very specific thing where you're choosing the most beautiful people To be in these incredible incredible films right me think about the movies that fucking guy made kill Bill some of the best in the world All fiction.

23:33Oh you need just go down the line him out so many times. I've seen a movie all mirror acts of course. Yeah They made insane movies and they were like the wine scene company those they were the best yeah, and they some of the best and they just did it with the devil They did it with the devil. Yeah, they did it with the devil like the devil. I you know you watch an old Woody Allen movie I don't know if he's guilty. I don't know what happened I go I don't want to believe he's guilty But can I still enjoy the movie or or not and then some of them It is a little different you watch it and you go it is I hope he's not guilty, but you know there's a good chance he's guilty and There's a documentary that's all of it's not good all of it's not good If I mean even if it's like your neighbor's daughter yes, you know in person she was too And then you want it Mariner that's kind of crazy.

24:23It's not great enough adult with children and your neighbor how to touch is But then again, you know part of your brain goes okay But like what if you really were in love like what if really right she really was the next her neighbor and really you were 60 and she was 30 and she loved you Right or if you're a wine had adopted her from Cambodia that makes it more complicated and you raised her but that Her still that's the next level that is what I was gonna say that I deal that you can't yeah We'll say that you can't you can look at the neighbor and sure maybe You weren't close with the neighbor's daughter now she's a grown woman.

25:01She has agency. She's a woman. She loves you But you know, it's funny about you can't say that about a kid that you fucking raise you can't marry a kid you raised No, you can't marry a kid you raised but did he raise her? Did he see her like every couple days? I don't know whichever however we can still watch Annie Hall. I can't there any way to still watch Annie Hall. No, I don't know probably not it's hard you can but you're gonna know the whole time It's like watching House of cards you like what yeah But I can watch House of cards because he's playing the guy he was right that's perfect I like that Kevin space.

25:38He doesn't even exist. He's barely a person. He's such a good actor. He's become the thing He always plays people kind of like that Kaiser Soze You know Frank Underwood he's become the thing and he's so good at it that it doesn't ruin it for me I can watch House of cards. There's an arrogance That some stars had like particularly in the 90s when I first came to Hollywood and this is like really evident for me Because I was not a star but I was on a television show So I got to be around a lot of stars and there was a way that some of them would treat you They would let you know that you are subhuman you are below them They would communicate with you in the most disrespectful and dismissive ways Like weird fucking weird got like mousey guys that I could kill right like instantly And they would just just be rude to you in a really weird way because they had power that power and then when the An executive would come over they would turn on the charm They'd be smiling and laughing and then you would talk to them at the craft service and they would fucking dismiss you in the shittiest ways I encountered a bunch of that yeah It was common place and it was I think a thing that they aspire to Especially a lot of the guys that came from Saturn and alive Like uh when Phil came over from Saturn and live Phil Hartman when he was on news radio Those the first thing he did after Saturn and live and He had like his defenses up like our member He was like a little like standoffish in the beginning kind of shitty does like he was the big star And he was and you know day follow was a pretty big star too and the rest of us were kind of no one really knew who we were and uh after a while he relaxed and he would tell me about it And he was like you know, it's great here.

27:30We all have fun, but God in Saturn alive everybody was Stabbing everybody in the back and it was all yeah Oh everybody was well you people were getting people fire that were like his assistance Just because they wanted to fuck him over they would steal people's things and it was just like really shitty And it took a while for him to chill out And then I got to meet some of those people that he was talking about and interact with them And they did the same thing to me. Yeah, there was some shitty fucking people out of that This this this star culture Yeah, and they would be the ones that were the royalty and everyone else was a peasant Was really fucking creepy interesting So I think if you're like an old school dick grabber and you're also on a Hollywood icon right You know you probably are doing that you're probably doing that Hollywood thing where everybody else is just there for you Everybody else is just should we maybe wall off Hollywood and just go listen let him go wild.

28:29They're just all sexual predators like Jurassic Park Can't we do that can't we say Entering your own risk they make great movies, but occasionally they're gonna goose you they may throw you against a wall Yeah, I mean if you train for the Navy seals some people drown Can't we just do that because the other way is it working where everyone's nice and good yeah everyone can't be nice and good And have really good art. I don't think I'm not saying everyone has to be killing everyone. No, you don't mean brawn Howard seems to be really nice and good But I want to space he's documentary by the way and some of it is like okay He's clearly did the wrong thing and then some of it these guys are like because they wanted things from him They're like we went to the movies and he started jerking off next to me It's like okay, dude.

29:21Well then you know This is not a guy to hang with and then the next thing they say is and then he invited me to a party at his hotel And he said Bruce Willis would be there so I went HAHAHAHA He go well we can't feel bad for you right because you're trying to climb On the basis of knowing this guy. You are playing the game that's right. You're playing the game You're playing the game you're dancing with the devil you dance with the devil going a lunch with Harvey You're going a lunch with Harvey. You want it You know So to me, it's like they're not sympathetic in the way that like you know, other people are, whether it's sexual assault in the military or in the workplace or whatever.

30:01Where people are not actively trying to better their chances of being famous by knowing this guy. Right. It's a complicated thing with Spacey, right? Because apparently some of the alleged people are like people that he worked, like, you know, like a grip on a sad or a guy who has to drive him to, you know, it was just wild. Apparently. Yes. This is allegedly. Right. And then some of those people died before they could testify. Do you think you play a guy like Frank Underwood, if there's not a little bit of that inside of you somewhere? No. Probably not. Probably not. You know, you know, he had a really rough life.

30:43Did it? And you know his brother, his father was a Nazi pedophile. Oh my God. This is true. Oh my God. And his father was all of Twitter, but no, he was a Nazi pedophile. He was, he would rape them and make them watch the Nazi stuff. This is, I know I sound like I'm lying a lot and I am a lot, but this is true. You can look this up. Oh God. His brother is a Rod Stewart impersonator. Oh God. It wasn't great. The way that it went for anybody over there. Jesus Christ. According to Kevin Spacey, he was raised by a relentlessly abusive neo -Nazi father. Wow. Spent his dinners making anti -seminic comments which terrified his children.

31:20What? Yes, and worse than beating and raping them, he was anti -seminic. Wow. So he was really bad. Is that, say that in here? The, the raping part? I believe, for when I know, that's his brother, the Rod Stewart impression. That he was a very abusive. The brother's fucking got it nailed. The brother is really dialed. Boy, if I saw that dude, he's fucking, he's dialed. Yeah, if I was like somewhere, I'd be like, oh, he's shit, Rod Stewart. Look at this. He alleges his father frequently raped him. I mean, I'm not making it up. Oh my God. I'm freakingly raped and beat him. Oh, why didn't they put that in the title?

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31:53Like just the anti -seminic comments, that seems like the least of the problem. For the way they grew up, let's be charitable. They turned out good. Right. They turned out well. Multiple Academy Awards. He's a very talented man, and his brother, I'm sure, does a great Maggy May. Yeah. For the way they were raped. Everybody has to be judged a little bit with a backstory. I loved it. Lex Friedman has the courage to interview anybody. Well, Lex is one of those guys who genuinely is like, you know, he knows what his intentions are. Yes. And he's very comfortable with himself, and that's why he can talk to all these people.

32:34Yeah, because he's always coming from a good place. Even Kanye and the heat of everything, Lex had him on. Yeah. No, it'd be good. Bill Mard, like did a whole episode and said I'm not releasing it. That's crazy. Yeah. That's crazy. I can't wait. Kanye, space, can we do an election? Cause there's going to be an election. Yeah, yeah. I'm angling to get back in here with Kanye and spacey and Weinstein from jail. I would get you in here with Kanye, but it would probably turn bad because you talked too much. I know. With Kanye, you got to let him talk. I know. Because like, there was moments where I was talking.

33:08There was moments where I was talking. You can see Kanye was like, bleep. He has so much to say. I mean, listen, that madness inside of him was why his fucking songs are bangers. They're just banger after banger. His fucking new album is amazing. It's amazing, dude. We play in the green room all the time. In all my Spotify playlist, I think there's more Kanye songs than anything. He's a genius. And what you have to realize with people that are incredibly gifted is a lot of that comes with some real downsides. Yeah. And they can't be judged maybe the same way you judge every other person. Well, I know that that sounds bad.

33:50You can't be out there murdering people. They can't do it. They got to follow the laws. But if he goes says something crazy, it's also like, you know, you got to look at like what you've gotten from him and all of this great music. You have to have a tie rate every now and then. Yeah. Well, it's like he says his own enemy. Yeah, it's just like he can't. The rants just go. I know. They just come flying out and who knows how much of it he's really been committed to until he says it. And then once he's saying it, then he's really committed. You know, and then, you know, he puts, he shows up statistics like he held up this thing about it was showing on his phone all of the different people that are running all the different music companies and how many of them are Jewish.

34:33Right. You know, he's like, they run, they run the media. They run this and they run that. Like, okay. Right. Yeah. I mean, what are you going to say about that? If they are facts, if these people are all Jewish, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're doing something evil, just, you know, if you buy pizza, a lot of the people selling it are Italian. You know, like, they may have been. Jews seem to have made better choices than the Irish. My people. Well, they're really good at running show business. Yeah. I can't point to any list of people and go and there, and there are. I is not one group and go and look and McDonald and O 'Brien, right, right?

35:10Like Italians, like my people, what other than food? Someone said a teacher I had in community college, you take it with a grain of salt, but said that Italians were very focused on the family. And they were skeptical of institutions. So they started small businesses, whereas Jewish people were more open to institutions and that's why a lot of them are overrepresented in academia, politics and media. Well, Italians are fleeing communism too. Right. So the Italians were skeptical of the government. They were skeptical. And they wanted to have their, you know, little pork stores and stuff. And that's good.

35:45And it's also Catholic, very family oriented. Catholic, you know, if you date an Italian girl, you gotta meet everybody. That's right. You can't be just showing up at her house, like some regular white guy. And the Irish were drunks and sexually abused. A little bit. And they did the best they could. They did the best they could. They did the best they could. Everyone's doing the best they can. Yeah. Well, we're all coming out of chaos. The reality of human beings in this country is this fucking country is three people's old. Right. That's it. Three people. That's crazy to think about. Three people, you know, that's the reality of this country.

36:20China is 400 people old. Right. You know, that's real. Yeah. That's a difference. Yeah. You know, like we don't have our shit together yet. And we started off with a really good idea that didn't anticipate technology. And then technology got involved in terms of like stock trading. And then influences of campaigns. Nobody anticipated the lobbyists, special interest groups. Nobody anticipated the military industrial complex until Eisenhower talked about it on TV. Just all these things got in the way of the original idea that they just, they had a great fucking idea of how to make sure that no one ever becomes a dictator and that the will of the people get served.

37:00They had a great idea. And now they have an idea where everyone can kind of be a dictator. So that's not the worst idea. You can be a little dictator. Well, what they really didn't anticipate is the power the technology companies have. Yeah. That's what they own your thoughts, dreams, hopes, fears. They have, they've burned into your life more than any of the robber barons could, more than any of those guys. More again, a Rockefeller Carnegie. They've gotten insanely wealthy just from your data. Absolutely. And then convincing you you have to buy a new phone every week of your year. And they're helping you.

37:33And that's the scary part, right? There you toe bands and they believe they're creating a truly better world. And they're helping you. And they're helping you. And they make your life better. And you do and these are things that make your life more convenient and easier. How great is Google Maps or ways? So when they tell you it's more convenient to just not have this discussion or not have be able to say a certain term or not be able to then you, you know, you just comply. You comply and you go, okay, I don't want to start any trouble. I don't want to start an issue. I like postmates. Yeah. Whatever it is.

38:05I like Airbnb. Well, sure. What's failing now? It's over now. It's all over now. I met one of the guys. What did I fuck? Well, someone I don't know if it was you, but someone said, and this was really nice, someone tried to get me back and they were like, no. Someone met a big guy and it might have been you. Someone was like, think it was me. Yeah, somebody's like, what about getting like a guy and Tim Dylan back on it and they were like, no, they're fucking up. They're making a big mistake. Well, that issue that I had was all about the redundancy of cleaning fees. Why would I pay a fee and then clean?

38:39This has now become a rallying call from millions of brave Americans to hold Airbnb accountable for what they've been to. Forget the trafficking people showing up to the house in the middle of the night trying to rip you out of it. This is true. Single women go on bachelor parties all the time. Guys, knock on the door at 3 a .m. It's not safe. A lot of the people who host like had Airbnb's have weird cameras set up. Yeah, there's been a bunch of that. It is strange. There's also someone had an interesting scam where they were renting a house and they were using that house as an Airbnb house. Of course.

39:17When they're probably making money off of the rental. You see, you think about how much a house cost a rent if it's like $2 ,000 a month. And you could Airbnb it for $500 a night. Or what's Airbnb cost for a house? I've been here the other day. But it's by about 400 something. So you would probably make a lot of money. Yeah, there's a lot of that. Pay your mortgage easy. And then you could do that with multiple houses. You got income constantly coming in. And I think they interviewed the CEO recently. They interviewed him and he was basically like, listen, we're trying to design your trips. Like they're trying to figure out ways to get competitive again.

39:51Because they're like, we know people are going back to hotels. We know it's gotten too expensive. Is that what it is? Yeah, it's gotten too expensive. People are like, we don't understand why we'd pay all of this money to have all of these rules. When we could just go to a hotel, it's easy. Right. And we don't have to worry about, you got a report card. Airbnb is a report card. Nobody wants that on a trip. You got a report card for like, how good you did or bad you do. Whether or not you're using it or not. People writing with views about you. Is that fun? You're going to vacation. Somebody's going to write a review, some psychopath.

40:25Oh, so like you could like take a giant shit and forget to flush it and then you get a review. Then they trash just a simple mistake, a simple mistake. And then stay out of people's homes. This is the real reality. Yeah, stay out of people. If you're over 30, you can no longer stay with people. Put it this way. Let's give them till 35 or 40. You have to get a hotel. Yeah, you can't get a hotel. You cannot stay with a friend. And you don't need to get an Airbnb with seven people. Yeah, I always get weirder than I want people like to just stay with different friends and every time. No, no. Do you like being annoying?

40:59Yeah, that's done now. You can't stay with anyone anymore. You go to a hotel. That's nice. We're like an adult. It's like an adult. You go, this was nice. Goodbye. You need to say the word goodbye. And then you got to go to a hotel. Otherwise, people are like, they feel uncomfortable in their own home. They do not want you there. It's kind of crazy that Airbnb, that's another thing that popped up out of nowhere that nobody saw coming. That was a disruptor. That and Uber, right? Yeah. Uber was a big one. Popped up. But no one would have thought that everybody would become a cab driver for extra money.

41:30Well, it coincided with this rise of the gig economy where people are like, I'll just be, I can work, I own a car, I can work, and I can make money through this app. And you can not have a boss boss. Exactly. Like one of the things I loved about delivering newspapers when I was a kid was, you know, I did it when I was in my teens and 20s. It's like you could just go to the place, pick up the paper. You did your work, but you could listen to the radio. You can, no one's in your ear. No one's talking to you. You buy yourself. As long as you get your job done, you're good. And if you're an Uber guy, you don't have, you don't just, like, I don't have to go to a fucking office somewhere.

42:09I just picked this dude up and take him to the airport. Oh yeah, it's perfect. Thank you. Thanks for the tip. Drive away, be a nice guy. You know, try to keep your car clean. That's right. You can make money, and you don't have to listen anybody. And they're having fun. Some of those guys are having fun all day. Listen to hateful podcasts. Me. Perhaps mindless. Listen to smoking sigs. People listening to this right now. Yeah, people listening to it right now going, I'm enjoying my life. I'm having fun. Somewhere there's someone in the back seat going, fucking Tim Dylan. Shut up. I hate it. What he did to Megan McCain was so rude.

42:38Well, he did to all of these people. All of these so rude. Innocent people. Innocent. So fucking rude. Innocent good billionaire. Speaking of innocent, just see Fauci. Did you see the, or he came out. Did you see the, the, the leaked tapes? Oh, that's not just the leaked tapes, but him getting grilled. Oh, I said, oh my god. Was it bad? Was it brutal? It's horrible. Yeah, I think Jim Jordan got him lying under oath. They, he's just, no matter what they catch him with, he tries to find a way to wheeze a lot of saying that he said that, including saying mandating masks, shutting down schools, locking everything down, closing businesses, forcing people to get the vaccine.

43:17All of it is on tape. Well, it's it seems to be, again, it's the gaslighting thing where people go, we can just now come out and say that we never actually said any of that. It's crazy him saying that though. Yeah, not, not just saying that, but even when they catch him saying that, that's not what I was referring to. Right. But it does exactly what you were saying. There's no ambiguity at all about anything you're saying. And then also the gain of function research. They, they're deleted a bunch of emails. There's all these emails from his assistant talking about how to go in separate channels to talk about this stuff and how to skirt around the Freedom of Information Act.

43:53And then fucking Peter Hotez talking about deleting emails. Yeah. They all knew what the fuck they were doing, man. They were, they were all very aware that they were going to be investigated eventually. There should be a commission on this whole thing, but just like the 9 -11 commission would probably be set up to fail. And that's what the commissioner said. That's not what I'm saying. Well, even if Trent gets into office, how could it be? Because he was the guy. Right. He put warp speed in place. That's right. He, Fauci was behind him at press conferences. I think that's his biggest vulnerability.

44:24Ironically, Trump is that a lot of people don't trust him because of that period. Well, he has a vaccine. He hasn't corrected course. Right. Because it's very difficult for him to ever say that he's wrong, right? So he doesn't like saying he's wrong. So for him to correct course, for him to look at the studies that are coming out of the UK and Europe about access deaths and where they're a little bit more honest about what the fuck is going on because they have socialized medicine. Right. There's a lot more going on over there than it's going on over here. There's so much about protecting pharma here.

44:57Yeah, but it's so much money. Right. I mean, so much money invested in advertising. I mean, everything gets advertised by it. Whether it's internet shows, there's fucking so many television shows. I mean, that montage I'm sure you've seen it brought to you by Pfizer. Right. CNN one. That's fucking nuts, my crazy. It's nuts. It's so much, there's so much money involved in this that these people just keep their fucking mouth shut because the people that are, these people aren't real journalists on television. You see that when Chris Cuomo has to debate Dave Smith, right? What they are is mouthpieces for whatever the fuck is the network.

45:36They're actors. Yeah, they're doing like actors. And they think they're journalists, which is hilarious. Like when you see, like when Elon Musk sat down with Don Lemon, yeah, and he realized, I need you know, and like Don said it, or Elon said it best, brother. He said, Don is doing CNN outside of CNN. Right. That's like what he thinks talking to people is. Yeah. No, they're actors. They're show pieces and their mouthpieces for usually corporate America and quite often whatever party makes corporate America feel cozy at the moment. Yeah. Yeah, it's a bizarre, bizarre merging of commerce and the news.

46:14You know, that should have never, that's another thing that one saw coming, right? The founding fathers, they never saw that level of propaganda being possible that you would have funded propaganda that was working step by step with the government. It's gotten to be, but you know what? It's watching it fall apart over the last few years has been really interesting. Yeah. Because it is falling apart. Oh, well, it has to. You are watching these guys and you go, they are convincing nobody. I mean, I'm sure they're still convincing some people, but most free thinking people, most people that don't have an investment in it are looking at it, it feels fake.

46:54Yeah. It all feels fake. I think people are starting to question it more than they ever have. I don't think the government will ever fully recover from the pandemic in terms of trust levels with all those kids who had to do proms in a car or wear masks jogging on a track. I don't think those kids ever look at the government the same way and that's probably good. It's good. I think that's good. It's good. And the thing is, like, young kids are paying attention to what is going on now in a way that they know that it's going to affect their life. They pay attention to the government like these fucking idiots, they're going to affect my life because they affected their life.

47:35That's right. And they did it to their parents. Like, how many of these young kids saw parents lose jobs, saw divorces happen, suicides in the family, breakups, drug addiction, so many fucking things happen, they didn't have to happen, that we're brought on because of the lockdowns and because of the pandemic and the government's mandating things. And how many people that they know that got health problems because of the vaccine? How many people that they know died young? Everybody knows something. No, and I think they're more likely now to have a skeptical view of the government. Which is good.

48:05And I think they understand more probably the value of... Now, I don't know if they're going to understand this in every area, but what propaganda is how it kind of functions and, you know, how to be aware and cognizant of the fact that there are people that are shaping and sculpting the narrative and then shoving it down your throat. Yeah. I think there's more people now questioning things, especially young kids are questioning stuff about the war machine and the war economy more than they ever have before and going like, what is, why are we involved here? And why are we funding this? And why are we doing that?

48:45And I think people are... And that doesn't mean they're sloppy, obviously. They're not getting everything right, but they're out there. And they're also being heavily manipulated. Yeah. Which is, you know, something that's been discussed with a bunch of people on the show where we talked about like, you know, with Gadsad in particular, like who is behind all these protests at the universities? Like they're organized. Sure. And they're organized a lot of... By Soros funded groups and a bunch of different groups that... They organize these things to get a narrative very popular. Yes. You know, and that it's all...

49:22The whole thing is just disruptive. That's the key. The key is to get people upset. Right. To keep people disrupted. And to further erode our idea that we have any kind of control whatsoever about what goes on. I went to one of those protests at UCLA. And I was... It was fun. You know, it is...it's young people. They're trying to enjoy themselves. Is that what it was? It kind of felt like that. Like a little festive. It didn't feel like Hamas had taken over the college. Like, I know that... It felt like there were people there that were clearly probably pro -Hamas. As whatever you want to call them as a group.

50:06Right. But then it felt like there was a lot of kids there that just saw what was going on in Gaza. And they were like, we are against America funding that. And they went out to do that. And they wanted to, in the best way, that they knew how express, how upset they were. Now, you know, you can't destroy property. You can't common -deer areas. These are all areas where in a civil society you can't do those things. But I think a lot of the people, their reaction or a lot of what was going on was probably heavily manipulated. But some of it was organic. Some of them were. It's also they're just trying to be good people.

50:46Seeing it on TikTok going like, there's kids being killed. Yeah. And we're paying for it. Yeah. And we should do something. And the more people I spoke to, I was like, yeah, I didn't think that they were... I thought probably a lot of them were a little naive about certain things, but they're in college. Right. So that's okay. Everybody's not even college. That's right. Yeah. And it's a thing to be a good person. You want to go out and support the good thing. What's the good thing? Free Palestine. Yeah. That's right. They should be free. Yeah. From the river to sea. Which river would sea? No one knows.

51:23No one knows. That's not what's important. What's important is I'm out here because Debbie's really progressive and she's hot. Want some coffee? Yeah, please. Debbie's really progressive and she's hot. Right. Well, listen, there's a... I enjoyed it. They had... You know, it seemed fun. I took a few selfies with them. They were good people. And then they were like the cops. Yeah, I recognized. Yeah, a few times. Yeah. And then the kids were like, they were like, you had Abby Morton. And I was like, thank you, you know, whatever. Thank you. And they were very nice. And then I... And then they were like, well, the cops are coming in.

51:55They think they go. We think they're coming in with rubber bullets. And... You know, there's no other... Houses and everything. And I said, I got at the Beverly Hills hotel, you have to put your breakfast order on the door by 1 a .m. And I explained that to the kids. I said, I... And they... they'll know to bring the egg and everything. I said, I can't be here during the onslaught of the police activity. But you guys should. I even said that. I go, you guys should. And lock arms. Do that stuff. Because you only live once and you're only a kid once. And make these cops work. Who cares? Lock arms, but I had to go.

52:29I can't be. Did you see what happened in Philly when the gay pride parade met free Palestine? And they... Oh, it was a flash. Yeah, it was a clash. They clashed. Kurt Matschger would call that. The great Kurt Matschger would call that. I believe an intersectional car crash. It was funny. They were saying you can't march because Palestine is not free. You guys stop right here. Yeah. We're more important. This is more important than you can be happy. It was weird watching it because it was like, there's no joy. There should... No one should be happy. I think pride is very silly. There's a whole month.

52:58That's very silly. If you look at what was done to black people and you look at what was done to gay people, it's insane that pride is a full month. A couple of weekends, maybe one or two, the idea that it's a full month is nuts. How about there's only veterans day? Right. There's one day for veterans. And there's an entire life. There's a long day. There's veterans day and memorial day. And what the month of pride allows people to do is it allows corporations to just talk about, you know, how down they are with fisting. That's really all it is. It's just capital one going, we come, it's like, it's like, we will.

53:42You can... And I say that as an out gay guy who has no problem with people going to pride parade and having fun, I don't think nine -year -old should be there. How old do you think is those cut off? I mean, when your kids are in their teens, perhaps, if they're in their older teens, I just think kids should be legal teens, you mean? No, I mean, I don't think a 13 -year -old needs to be there either. I think it's a 17 -year -old. 17 and no is gay. 17 or they could just 17 and they're like mature enough to handle what's going on. Are they though? I don't know, but I mean, it depends, like again, I'm not mature enough to handle what's going on in the pride parades.

54:22Well, I don't know, the pride parades have gone off to chain. They've gone off to chain. But, you know, people dressing up like dogs and stuff is crazy. Congressman. But, like, to me, I've always felt that, like, if you're going to go out and have a party where people are getting drunk and hucking up and dancing, anybody who's legally underage shouldn't be there. So, 17 is right on the cosp and then 18 and everything is fine. But, to me, it's like, I don't think it belongs for kids. That's clearly, it doesn't belong for kids. Well, people want to do it to show their kids tolerance and acceptance.

54:52But, you don't have that's not. That's not what I want to do. It's very sexualized. It's very sexualized. It's very sexualized. Yeah, sure. You should celebrate the fact that Gays are free to get married and they have all the same rights as everybody else as they should. But, like, it's sexual. It's like a lot of guys with thongs on. Well, it's like spring break. No, it's wild. It's like, would you take your ten year old to spring break to show, to teach them tolerance? No. Right. You wouldn't do that. That's kind of straight pride. Spring break is a bunch of people going to get fucked up in Florida.

55:28Right. And they're going to fight each other and have sex. And you wouldn't take your young children to see that. I don't see the reason to take your kids to a highly sexualized parade. Yeah. No. You want to take them to an event that's not as sexualized? Like, maybe a mother would tell her kids like your father is getting an award. He's gay. He's getting an award. That's why it didn't work out with us. Your father's gay. He's a faggot and we're watching him get an award tonight. How many of those? Because he wrote a book. Poor bastards are out there in marriages right now. Probably a lot. There's probably a lot of this trap.

56:09Just can't get it. But you know what it is? Nothing's great. You probably have a fine wife. Nothing's great. It's, listen, continue to do things on the DL. Just don't give a raise. I, and this is not a popular thing to say it. During Pride, there's so many political attachments to being gay now. If you're a closeted guy, just fuck your wife once a month. She'd on her don't give her a raise and just keep the family tight. And I know that that's probably not popular. But I mean, now is not the, I mean, it's just if you're 60, are you going to come out? I mean, do we really need people coming out in their 70s?

56:52Do we need this to be very honest? There's a window of which you can get honest. If you don't, double down on the lie. I think that's a great strategy for all of life. I think there's a window to be honest. It's not forever. Right. Nobody wants somebody coming out in their 50s, 60s. It's like, I'm not ready. Oh, I'm not ready. Yeah, it's on their deathbed. Oh, so now you've lied the whole time. Right. Just keep it a secret. Just keep it a secret. Not a bad piece of advice. It's not a bad piece of advice. Happy pride. But it is. I do feel that way. I think that like for some people, yeah. Some people probably can't handle a change.

57:33Yeah, some people, it's like shift. Yeah, sure. Yeah. It's just, you know, I mean, it's also weird now because people, it's like, what are you coming out as? If you just, you want to have sex with dudes, you want to sexual women. And then you're like, okay, so then, okay, I want, I'm gay or lesbian. But then you're like, what is LGBTQIA2 thing? What are the, what is that flag? You be a two -spirit. Two -spirit. Yeah, that's what it is. That's what it is. The fact that we allow that is hilarious. No, no, it's amazing. It's amazing. And A, I like how A's in there. That is incredible. You're asexual.

58:03Yeah. You know I'm a fucking dog in this race. She go, if you go, okay, so I have this. And then I have a flag. I don't understand. Nobody understands the flag. She's getting bigger. Indigenous. She's changing. What a white gay people. And I'm not saying indigenous people don't have issues. But what a white gay people have anything to do with the Indigenous. Can you be like, why would they... They just try to develop a gang. Yeah, it's right. It's like, why would they pretend to understand like what indigenous people go through? Right. How did the eye get in there? It used to be we were making fun of putting the trans people and the lesbians in with the gays.

58:33Yes. Which are very different things. Well, lesbians are going away. Barry Weiss. And I be, is the final lesbian. Did you know that? No. She's the final one. That's it. The final countdown. That's it. Barry Weiss. And do you know in Israel that canceled the Pride parade this year? Why? Because they're gay pride flag. They made the yellow, I think, bigger because of the hostages. Oh, wow. So they didn't... They would not have a gay pride parade. And they're also using all the material that they would have used in the Pride parade to carpet bomb. Civilian areas of Rafa. But here's the point. There's...

59:12All of the fireworks and stuff are directly being shot at babies faces who were homophobic and should go. Because by the way, you know that's the whole thing they're doing over there. Yeah. Where they go, they go... If like they just bomb the school. And the Israel's got to stop doing this all the time. Every now and then, when I grew up, Israel had bomb school every now and then and people would go, Oh! It was not all the time. Now they're doing it too much. And it's making people upset. When I grew up, it was a nice thing every now and then, never nice thing. But every now and then, it would be like, you wouldn't know what Israel's doing.

59:42Israel's just bomb the school and you go, Ha! It was rare. Now they're doing it so much. And if you go, this might be a lot. And I support them and they're right to exist. But this seems to be every human rights organization in the world, every country, everybody's going, this is guys, please. Even America, even Biden. Even Biden is going, guys, please. And the response to maybe let's not bomb these refugee camps is, do you know what Hamas does to gay people and women? Yeah. And it's like, guys, come on. Yeah, that's not, but you're killing people. You're killing children. Yeah, and women. And women.

1:00:22Yeah, a lot. So a lot. You're right. You're killing terrorists. Yeah, we got to figure out a way to make this, you know, a better situation. That's another one that's so wild too, because the left has always been, like, kind of clear on where it would look at, like, conflicts. Yeah. Like, with Ukraine, the left is all in for Ukraine, right? There's some people on the right that are in for Ukraine, but the left is pretty much all in. They're all in. Putin's bad. The far left isn't. Yeah. The mainstream left that we all know about is. But with Israel, you have people on the left that are pro -Israel.

1:01:01A lot. Hardcore. Hardcore, we just will find a way to rationalize the human shield argument, no matter what it is. And no one is, like, being straight up about it. Everyone's being ideological about it. No one is saying the whole thing is chaos. No one is saying, you know, no one's talking about the history of the region, like the real history of the region, which is really complex. It's very complex. It goes back forever. And then no one is looking at this, like, there's any kind of fucking solution that makes any sense. No. So you're either, so there's no, like, clear path. Like, this guy's dead on, and this is the way we have to treat this, and this has to be handled.

1:01:43No, it's either Hamas is, you know, using human shields. Right. Israel has a right to exist, and they want to wipe Israel out. And if Israel laid down their arms, they would slaughter them. If Hamas laid down their arms, they would be fine. Like, yeah, fuck, man. It's hard. And it's like, there's definitely, I think, naeavate on both sides. The people that the Hamas as like a high school theater group are insane. Yeah. But the people also that think that you can bomb your way to the peace over there, I don't know. Yeah, you're not going to do that. You're not going to do that. What are they going to do with all those people that survive?

1:02:22I mean, yeah. Imagine how many future Hamas people they've created. They're going to build hotels in Gaza. They're going to turn it into a, because I think that's maybe the end game is to like, eventually put a bunch of money into it. That's perhaps the end game. Well, it is expensive real estate. It's really state by the sea. They're going to put hotels in it, and then white people, you know, white checks from America are going to go to trips. Well, whenever there's land that something happens to, that's close to water. People like hang on, hang on, before making decisions. You know, this area of Maui is really valuable.

1:03:01Yeah. Like we can do wild things here. If we can figure out a way to appropriate, if we just hang on long enough for all these people lose their mortgages, and we do have like, figure out what's slow down construction, slow down rebuilding. They're going to hire her. I mean, look, as a terrible tragedy, this happened, but look, we can't go back in times. What are we going to do? I mean, what are you going to do? What are these people rebuild? They're going to hire the people that are left to work at the hotels that the people who bombed them are going to visit. That is exactly what is going to happen.

1:03:31And there's going to be a woman. There's going to be a kid who goes, here's your ex -bana dex, and she's going to go, hi, are you from here? And he's going to go, yes. And she's going to go to your family to live here, and he's going to go, no. And she's going to go, why did they move? And he's going to go, they would have killed in the war. And she's going to go, oh, anyway, can we have some ice lattes, too? Like, that's what's going to happen. That's my guess, I guess. Do you think that there's any... Is there a way that they could sell Israel taking over Gaza? Is there a way they could actually sell that?

1:04:05Yes, the way you sell everything is by saying humanitarian reasons, and you're going to pump in a lot of money, and you're going to make things a lot better. I don't know the last administration that truly tried to get a Palestinian state. People talk about Clinton, but it was really HW Bush. George HW Bush tried to curb a lot of the settlement building, and try to say, listen, guys, we need to come to the table and have a Palestinian state. There was another attempt during Clinton. It didn't work for various reasons. People can argue about why. It does feel like no one's talked about it recently, and it's just kind of been a thing that everybody ignored.

1:04:49So the idea that it won't exist is more likely now, I think, than it was. I mean, and it should exist. People should have the right to have a home. But I feel like they would sell it in the sense that in order to provide economic and security guarantees, it has to be an occupied region forever. I think that. And then the idea is like, listen, they're preparing. I mean, look at military times. Just wrote an editorial they want to bring back the draft. They want to bring it back in Germany. They're all preparing for something. There is a very big push right now to militarize certain areas of the world to bring back the draft, to, you know, see this as a cold war that could turn hot.

1:05:37Biden basically said to the Ukraine, use American weapons in Russia. You can use American weapons for cross, but not in a defensive capacity, for cross -border attacks into Russia. Russia is now doing war games in the Caribbean. You know, we are ratcheting all of this stuff up at a time when it is, we should be completely going the other way. We should be trying to figure out how to live on the planet with China. And we should not be getting involved in a, we should not be encouraging countries to join NATO to antagonize Russia and getting involved in proxy wars. That's crazy. Trump said that he was going to pull out a NATO.

1:06:20He said that. He also said he would have bought, you know, at a fundraiser the other day, he said he would have bombed Russia in China like, what? He's very big. No, he said that. You can look at it. Yeah, absolutely. So he's saying all kinds of wild stuff now. I don't think he would have, but I think it might also help to be that bellicose and say all those wild things. Saying that you had bombed China in Russia? He said it a fundraiser recently. And the people in the fundraiser were kind of shocked. He was basically like, yeah, we would have hit him. And now we would have done it. Yeah, he's been, you know, I got to see this.

1:06:51No, he's right here. Trump at Fundraise says we would have bombed Russia in China. What? What? What did he say? Where did he say it? What the fuck did he say? I believe that President Trump would be supportive of Taiwan when he becomes president. He was there the first term. So where does it say that he would bomb?

1:07:19Buzz this right here during a rally in Bronx. We're referring several authoritarian leaders, including Vladimir Putin, saying they were at the top of their game, whether you like it or not, the world is going to respect us again if he's reelected. He claims the bomb revelation was made in a Washington Post report on Trump's recent fundraising toward during which he tested the boundaries of federal campaign finance laws, according to experts. At a fundraiser in New York earlier this month, Mr. Trump told the attendees he wanted to hear what they had on their minds, hearing options from on former UN ambassador.

1:07:50And his final Republican primary opponent, Nikki Haley, and several issues connected to Israel. Mr. Trump is routinely, what is it? Where does it say about the bomb thing? Where does it say that? I don't see any of this. That should be like front and center. If it's in the head long. No, for sure. Like why you making me get go all the, where does it say bomb them? How did it, and quotes right here says the bomb revelation was made, but... Right, but what does that mean? Amongst the people talking. What does that mean? Like they're not saying it's quote. That's a real sneaky thing to do. Yeah. The bomb revelation was made in a Washington Post report on Trump's recent fundraising tour.

1:08:26But what was it? Let me find a different article on it. Yeah. See if they have a quote. Yeah, that seems Trump would bomb Moscow. Allegedly said he would. Allegedly. Right. Allegedly. Well, he says a lot of stuff. Right, he might not have said this. But that's a crazy Yahoo title. Right. Trump suggested that fundraiser he would have bombed. Like that seems to me, like unless you have the fucking quote, you shouldn't be saying that. It is kind of funny. Trump turns out crazy Putin.

1:08:58That's a great headline. Oh my god, the Hill said that. But this doesn't say he was going to bomb it here. It says, was it according to the Kiev independent, which is what Yahoo reposted. The formerly, and possibly future president. Let me say this. In what Trump said a few days before, according to the Kiev independent, independence retelling of a May 28 story in the Washington Post. The former and possibly future president suggested at a fundraising event that he would have bombed Moscow in response to Russia full scale invasion of Ukraine. But this is not saying his actual quote. He also said in quotes he would attack Beijing if China invaded Taiwan on his watch.

1:09:39But is that it's got an asterisk? Is that no, it's quote. So is that his, that his quote? Did he say that though? Because it's weird. It's saying the quote is that he said he would attack Beijing. And so in quotes that way, is that his quote though? Attack Beijing if China invaded Taiwan on his watch. Did he actually say that? Or is this a retelling of what this person is saying? And they're putting that in quotes. The whole thing is a little slippery. It is slippery. Because if you're not, it is suggested at a fundraising event, he would have bombed Moscow. Like that seems like you should have that quote.

1:10:13Yeah, you would think. Trump makes sweeping promises to donors on audacious fundraising tours. It doesn't say anything in there about bombing. Does it? In the Washington Post. Google just do a find on this big ass article and look for bomb. Here it goes. Okay, for example, in one event he suggested he would have bombed Moscow in Beijing if Russian invaded Ukraine in China or China invaded Taiwan, surprising some of the donors. But you don't have the quote. Now he said it before with John Delay with the golfer. He did say I told Vladimir I'd hit Moscow. He did say that. And he did say that. He said, and you can get this.

1:10:54He did say to John Delay. He basically said, like, listen, I told him, I say, if you go in, we'll hit Moscow. And Trump said, I don't know if he believes in me or not, but you just got to say these things. You know, he was kind of telegraphing in. But listen, I think that, you know, there's probably a value to some of that talk. He was a friend of mine. I got along great with him. I said, Vladimir, if you're doing with a hitting Moscow, I said, look at a hit Moscow. I believe he made like 5 % 10 % that's what you need. He never did it during my time, John. No. No, it's funny. He's doing the last four years because he knew he couldn't.

1:11:32It's funny how she didn't bother you either. Yeah, no, she didn't bother me. I told him the sense that you, John Delay, getting hammered, chatted up with the president. Guys got an amazing life. I gotta get that guy in here. Yeah, John Delay, if you're out there. Let's get hammered. Yeah, but so I mean, who knows if he said it, the fun race run on, they are slippery and they do a tribute thing to him. And there's maybe more context to it. Yeah, it's real hard to know, but just saying that's crazy. Yeah, I believe me, maybe 5%. I think maybe that's good. There's something good about a maniac. When you have a maniac in there who is a guy that's unpredictable, I think maybe Kim Jong -un.

1:12:13When he would do that and then Trump was on the other end of that, maybe that was perhaps helpful. I don't know, but do you really want to be playing chicken with fucking Russia? No, I think we got a chill. I think we got a chill across the board. It doesn't feel like we're chilling. It feels like every, and it feels like we're on this inevitable course towards World War III. It's every article and headline. It's like, guys, let's pull it back. Yeah. Let's have a summer here. Yeah, let's relax a little bit. You know? But it's not going to relax because it's getting close to November. And everybody's got to be terrified.

1:12:43Oh my God, aren't you? Well, depending on which, you know, Article I read or media I consume, I don't know. It feels like they're doing a lot to keep him from running. You know? I mean, you have the Stormy Daniels thing, which was Mr. Meener. It was elevated to this felony. It would have never been prosecuted had he not been running for a president. And that scares the shit out of me. That's terrible. And then that stuff's crazy. Absolutely. And the Republicans are going to do it back. So now you're going to have, because they weaponized the government against, you know, when you had like the steel dossier and Hillary Clinton, you had all of this, what ended up being, you know, faulty intelligence about him being controlled by Russia.

1:13:32And then they had all of these investigations and spent all of this time and energy trying to get him and couldn't. And then they tried to get him on like inflating the prices of the buildings he owns. And now they finally got him on paying a hush money to someone to a porn star. Well, what they got him on was the inappropriate way they put it in the ledger. Right. The way they put it in the ledger. The way they enter it. Right. Yeah, exactly. 34 times. And I know people that hate Trump that go, we shouldn't, they shouldn't have done that. Well, that's scary if someone's scary. If he gets into office, you don't think that judges and prosecutors that are sympathetic to him would do the same thing.

1:14:13Absolutely. That's probably what's scary in the Biden people more than anything is the retribution. I mean, this guy is a, I mean, he's an addictive guy. He's always been a guy that goes after people go after him. You know, he gets back harder than they hit him. And if they're doing this to him and he knows all the people that did it, well, you have all the guys now, his guys, right back in Stephen Miller, all these guys, they are all saying, hey, where are you? D .A. is all over the country. Start bringing cases against prominent Democrats. Yeah, they're worried. They're worried. You know, they're worried because if Trump doesn't get in, then, do you remember what happened when Trump lost?

1:14:49And then all these people are saying, everybody who supported him, they should be on a list like, right? Whoa. No, it's insane. Whoa. Are they willing to start a world war before this election? That's interesting. That's interesting. Are they willing to start a world war before this election? What are they willing to do? What are they not willing to do? Well, maybe a world war gets started because they don't want to. Like, you know, Trump is not going to be the only Trump in our country that's going to be in Trump's office. Maybe someone else don't. I'm wondering how far they're willing to go.

1:15:19I'm also wondering how other countries, like you just said, might take advantage. Yeah, maybe they would take advantage of it because they know that's the best way to keep Trump from being the president. Yeah. If Trump is promising all these embargoes and all this different shit that he's going to do to China and everything he's going to do around the world, I mean, I think that's the thing that I think that's the thing that I think that's the thing that I think is that if I was in another country, I'd be like, we don't want that. No. Like, that's going to be the thing. You know, right around October and Vade Taiwan, taking it over.

1:15:48Yeah. You see what happens? I mean, that's the thing a lot of people are thinking that there is a possibility that you see somebody makes a move. Yeah. You know, but what a better time to make a move than the chaos of us right now. Right. You got a choice of China, you know, what the Democrats keep calling it convicted felon. You know, convicted felon. He's a convicted felon. And they, you know, there's been all this talk about repeating that over and over again. Right. Like, make sure we get that message out. No one cares. Convicted felon. Yeah. I mean, it's just such a stupid thing. Well, he's got a lot of people voting for him now that wouldn't have voted for him before.

1:16:22There's a lot of people I think that are also seeing the, you know, it would be one thing. I mean, listen, I have nothing good to say about Gavin Newsom. But if you had a guy that was, uh, had his faculties, could speak. Yeah. Was of a reasonable age or whatever. Could gaslight better. Could gaslight better. But the fact that you have this guy who's so old that to me does suggest for whatever reason, they're terrified of replacing him with someone else. I do not know why. I don't know why. But it feels like who's ever running things right now is does not want to, does not want anybody coming in and looking under the hood.

1:17:02Yeah. Right. That does feel like that. I could be wrong. If you're in business with someone, they won't let you look at the list. Why are they killing a sange every day? Why are they torturing and killing Julian a sange? What are they? What are Julian a sange unleashed that has made them do this to him where they're slowly and methodically killing him? And in front of everybody, well, they can't stop now. Right. They've been doing it for so long. They can't stop now because then he becomes a martyr with no consequence. And the same people go and talk about a lexene of only and try to get you to be upset that Vladimir Putin, which made no sense.

1:17:40Why would Putin kill a guy who was, no, I'm not saying Putin's an angel, but the volume was never a threat to Putin in any way. He was in a Siberian prison. And the week that we were having that vote about 60 billion for the Ukraine, Putin kills his biggest critic publicly. That's insane. That makes no sense to anybody. And what do you think happened? Well, if I had to guess, there's two ways, an Alexian of only might have just died. People can't just die. But it seems like if there was any group of people that had a benefit from a lexene of only dying when he did, it's not Russia. It's would be us.

1:18:27If we're trying to pass to a country that's a little war weary and a little tired, we don't really need why we in this, what is the end game in Ukraine? What does it look like? How much money should we be kicking over there? We're trying to pass that bill, get that through Congress. It's, we have to pour trade, Vladimir Putin is a monster who's unwilling to negotiate. We have to do that. In order to fund that war, we have to present him as a guy whose hell bent on taking over Europe. And that war is in our vital national security interest. And the more we can paint him as that person, the better it is and the more likely we are to be able to pass that bill.

1:19:14And it's just very weird if he wanted to get rid of Alexian of only that he would have done it that. But wasn't that guy in a terrible prison? And he was in a bad prison. And I mean, obviously Putin hated him. Putin hated him, but Putin they had tried to poison him already. The FSB had already tried to poison to Volny. So why wouldn't you think they just did it again? Why would they? Why? What would be the point? He's in that prison. Because they want him dead. Because Putin just wants him dead. The weak, the weak, the weak that America, Alexian of only never had widespread support in Russia. By the way, this is not true.

1:19:48He had certain people that liked what he was doing. He never had widespread support in Russia. This is a Western narrative that's cooked up that's completely untrue. Alexian of only started his life as a guy who was, would criticize Jews. He had a lot of fascist tendencies. And then after a little trip to Europe, and maybe a meeting with, I don't know, who knows? Who knows who people meet with? He decided to go back to Russia with a very pro -Western attitude and he changed course. I'm not saying why people do that. People see the light in all different ways. The point is, the guy's in a Siberian prison, America's about to pass a huge bill.

1:20:25If you're the president of Russia, are you killing him that week? That just to me is a question. How did he die? What are they saying? But now they said something recently. They said they found that he wasn't killed. They came out with something they conducted. No, I don't know. I don't know who's conducting this, whether it's a human rights watch or an international. You're dying slow in jail no matter what. If you're in Russia. Yes, that's a bad jail. Yeah, you're in Russia and jail. What are you eating? And I'm not saying the volume wasn't a patriot or whatever, but I'm just saying that the idea that killing him, you know, maybe the guy did love Russia.

1:21:04I don't know. Maybe the guy was an ego maniacal guy who just wanted to lead. He wanted to be the leader. Maybe he was working with us. I don't know. But if you just look at it from a logical standpoint, it's weird that they killed him that week. That's strange to me. Does it make any sense? Interesting. I don't know enough about it to comment. Well, I would imagine if you wanted to go ahead. That should never limit any of us. How did you die? Sudden death syndrome. Oh. I give a notice of a dead Navalny's spokesperson, Kira Yarm -Yish, said the time of his death. Notice at 2 .17 pm local time when Alexey's lawyer and mother arrived at the colony this morning, they were told that the cause of Navalny's death was sudden death syndrome.

1:21:51That's a vague term for different cardiac syndromes that cause sudden cardiac arrest and death. Yeah. Maybe they just killed him. They might listen. Of course they might be killed. I don't know. Well for a walk, almost immediately losing consciousness. He also just might have died in a jail. He might, wait, how old was he?

1:22:14Oh, that's pretty young. Just dropped out of a hundred times. It's certainly possible that it killed him. It's just all of these events that were told very little about you have to then just rest on your own. You go, well, I don't know. It's very possible that killed him. I don't know. I don't live there. What do I know? It's very possible that killed him. That's how you're thinking though. You're thinking like 4D chess. Well, no, I'm thinking like, you know, this, you know, the way when he dies, people go, he was a big threat and put night evankers on a guy. He was, I don't know. I don't know.

1:22:45Does anyone consume Russian media or listen to Russian pod? I've listened to Russian pod. I hear the way Russians talk like I know people that live there. Like, it's not, we hear a lot of stuff. And then there's what we hear and then what's happening. Doesn't mean that it's great. I'd rather live here. But it does mean that like this idea that there was a movement, like remember when the hot dog warlord guy, pregozion was going through and then everybody was salivating on social media being like, no, no, no, he's about to overthrow the Kremlin. It's going to happen and it didn't happen. No, he didn't happen.

1:23:20He's a fucking warlord. He's a warlord. If he did, he's going to be worse. But it didn't happen because nobody has a fucking clue what's going on over there. So it's just you have to, and then a sange, they're killing this guy in slow motion. And then telling us how outraged we should be about Navalny. When a sange comes out, leaks a bunch of emails. We find out we're committing war crimes. We find out the CIA can remotely hijack your car. We find out that they can use all kinds of smartphone features to record you, you know, all that stuff. He releases, I forget what it's called vault seven or vault five.

1:23:57I forget what I think it's seven, but I don't know. I forgot the name of the vault, but he releases all of these things. Troves of Clint Neemills. You know, and I'm not saying pizza through it gets murdered. It's a through it gets murdered. I'm not saying pizza gate was real, but I've never in my life been like, we have 50 hot dogs ready for the guy when he come. Like no one talks like, I don't know what they were talking about. But no one dogs in pizza. No one has ever communicated like that. No, ever once is emails. The most bizarre read those emails. Nobody has ever communicated like that ever ago.

1:24:31Well, I hope there's 50 hot dogs or something. They're presidents going to love some of these good hot dogs. Like, maybe we shouldn't have our hot dog parties at the White House. Things that are so crazy when you read them, you don't know. You go, this doesn't seem to be. Yeah. Doesn't seem to make any sense. And they're talking about kids. And some of the kids. And they're talking about weird shit. It seems coded. It seems weirdly coded. It's like it seems so coded that I would assume that it's misinformation. That it's fake. That it's property that someone released and it's like, who knows? Sort of a fake.

1:25:06But I don't think it is. No. I don't think it's ever been claimed. I don't think it's ever been claimed to not have been there actually. It's very strange and they have these emails that are all very, weird and strange. Seth Rich gets killed. And anybody who thinks that Seth Rich might have got murdered because of leaking to WikiLeaks, even though a sange alluded to it. Right. You're a conspiracy theorist. You're a nut. Well, wait a minute. Do you or do you not think that sometimes people kill people? Do you? Yeah. I mean, these people are crazy. And you see it clear motive here. You see a thing here.

1:25:43Absolutely. It's a real big thing. And if you pursue that at all, if you even question that at all, if you look into it at all, they left his wall, they left his phone, they didn't steal anything from him. It was not a mugging. Just murdered him. It was not a mugging. It was a murder. You don't think that's weird? It's very strange. People always a bad area. It was whatever. Yes, but there was no economic crime happen. Like there you were. Not only that, they left his stuff. That's right. They shot him and just left whatever he had. They left all that. Even if it wasn't a robbery. Yeah. But you have the type of person who's going to shoot someone you're going to leave their money with them.

1:26:12You had all of that happening at the same time that high up members of the National Security Apparatus in this country were coming out going, we have information that the president of the United States is either working for Russia, conspiring, has conspired with Russia, had girls peon. Had girls peon him. They were accusing him of treason. And I remember this. They were accusing the guy of treason. This was not like he got a blowjob in the Oval Office. This was, he's, this is treason. And his supporters enabled a coup in our country backed by Russia. None of that. Two years, three years on TV and everybody repeated it.

1:26:52Everyone repeated it. No one has since apologized. Nobody has said we were wrong. Nobody has shown any interest in getting to the bottom of how that happened. They cook up this fake steel dossier, claiming all these things, the p tape, all of that stuff. All of this intelligence ends up being, you know, for lack of a better word, pretty unsourced. And the Clinton campaign paid for that dossier. And so all of that stuff, unreal, how corrupt. Now when you zoom out and you look and then you go, well, there's this old guy with dementia that they don't want to give up on and then you zoom out and you go, oh, maybe there is something else happening.

1:27:32I don't know. Jesus. Who the fuck knows? You can only say this if you have these glasses on. Yeah, you feel better. If you take them off, you immediately become a normie and you can't. And you feel nervous about that. You feel nervous. You start going, I like Biden. I like that he's a family man with someone said the other day. He's a good man. A family man. He's a good man. The family. The sons, the son right now, our president's son right now is in court trying to convince a judge that he was not smoking crack when he bought a gun. Hmm. Is he the first guy to ever get arrested for that? I don't know.

1:28:09But that's such a funny thing that that's literally what the son of the president's doing right now is he's, they've got his ex -wife testifying ex -girlfriend. Yeah, not just like smoking. He was saying he was smoking crack every hour on the hour. Yeah. And then one of them, I think his ex -wife, ex -girlfriend said she was witnessing him through it every 20 minutes, which is kind of impressive. How do you stay alive? Yeah. But all the people who have died of overdoses, that guy's out there, keep on trucking. That's right. Dropping accidental packages in the white house. Well, he's fit. He's kind of built for it.

1:28:39He's built to smoke crack. You know what I mean? He has spots. He can handle it. He can handle it. Like Shane Gill's can handle beer. Absolutely. Some people can just handle stuff. And, you know, I don't even want him to stop smoking crack. I don't want. I think he stopped. Sure. And I hope he's. I'm not not sure. I mean, listen, what do we do? Whatever, whatever. That's great. He's great. They're all great. They found Coke in the white house. You know, I had a chance to get him on the podcast. Oh, Joe. I know. Early, early, early on when he was releasing a book before the laptop stuff for all the shit hit the fan.

1:29:14Oh, well, then that might have sucked. I don't know. I think I could have, you could have opened them. Whenever they were, he was going to go on, I think they canceled all of it, though. Yeah. I think when the shit started, I probably never would have happened because I think once things started to go inside, I think I did a couple of interviews before things went completely sideways. I think it was because of a book. It was before he was selling those paintings. Yeah, it's an artist for like half a billion bucks each. He's a sensitive soul. He's a sensitive soul. He lives in Malibu's and artists.

1:29:43Paintings are a crazy way to fund the fuck around with the money. It's great money laundering scheme. It really is. It's the best. It's a great way to do it. And, you know, it's interesting. It's like the CIA. There's real evidence now that CIA was involved in Jackson Pollock. Oh, yeah. You know that, right? Which makes sense. Of course. Paintings were terrible. They're not only were they bad, but all of that whole era of art, they were kind of, and that was, it was also like, it was, it also fucked with people's heads because people looking at those paintings going, I could do that. Right? Easily.

1:30:18And capitalism only works if you have respect for the accomplishments of other people. Like, you've got to be able to look at people and go, I can't do that. Bro, there's some work like that that is insanely expensive. Yeah. And it's just splatters. And you're like, what, what is this? Well, it's a great way to get over on the rent. People that rich people always get over. It's not true. Rich people get beat all the time by other rich people. Oh, yeah. Because they all agree that there are certain kinds of bullshit that they tolerate. And one of them is like, they buy this crap art that is like this modern art that, you know, one was a blank canvas once, it's sold to 200 grand.

1:30:54Like, all this stuff. How much do you think that went for? Um, five billion dollars. Ten? Any guess? Uh, what is, is it Pollock? Yeah. An original? No, no, it's not Pollock. I don't think so. Someone else? I'll show you the answer if I look to you. Um, I say five billion dollars. I'll say, I'll say two million. Three hundred million. Yes. Two weeks of the Ukraine war. That's two weeks of the Ukraine war. That painting. That is so crazy. Can we just give the Ukraine that and have them set? Can we just give them art like that and have them repurposed? What is it? William DeCooning. Oh, yeah. Okay.

1:31:32So it's 55. Is the head of the, in the middle of the CIA. Yeah, this is when they were doing this. So was this American guy who did it? The CEO of Citadel bought it. Oh my God. What a fucking hell. You need, you know, you made a great point about chaos. You just need a certain amount of chaos. But with this crap, it just starts driving people crazy. Yeah. And I think that chaos ends up becoming the point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's a factor. That's right. That's right. It's like noise. Like if you want to kill somebody, turn off the music. So no one hears them scream. That's right. Yeah. So that's interesting.

1:32:02When you see them really get involved in culture in the 60s. Mm -hmm. And they are in Laurel Canyon. Mm -hmm. They're in Haydash, Barry. Oh, they were involved in everything. And they're working with everybody. You've had that guy in your show, wrote that great book. Mm -hmm. About Manson and all that stuff. Um, and they're involved with cults. They're involved with everybody. That's actually the painting. The one I had up that it showed was not the correct one. Oh, this is the one. Oh, that one's still sucked. I know. That's 300 million. That's even less impressive. That's too much. That's worse.

1:32:29That one's less good. If I bought the other one for $400, I'd feel better. That's like something a guy like me picks out. The other one was 27 .6. Jesus Christ. That's reasonable. Yeah. Good Lord. Is the same artist? No, I don't think so. So this guy, what is the big deal about this guy? I didn't. I don't know. I was just looking through another. God, these are garbage. It's a garbage painting. The top 15 from 2020. And like, I was like the very first one I chose was the one I just showed you. Oh, but that's number 15. Yeah. And that's 27 million. Yeah. So this is the most expensive works of art.

1:33:03Oh, look at this one. How much does that be? Shit. Bro, that's something my daughter would have done. She was four. 28 .7. 28 .7. 28 .7. 28. What? Yeah. So this is money laundering. This is money laundering. Well, then there's Picasso. Picasso is actually kind of cool, though. Look at that one. Let me see the Picasso one. Look at this one. That's different. Picasso one's kind of cool. But it's destroying the difference. By elevating a lot of the other stuff, there are also muddying the waters. Look at this one. It's all blue. Yeah. Except that one line. There's the line down the middle. How much is that one?

1:33:3230 million dollars. That's the 10 .60 million dollars. That's the cent blue line. For 30 million dollars. This one's a black cow yeah red with a black square at the bottom $21 million. This is insane. Oh, that's a dinosaur though Skeleton yeah, that's for you. That's pretty dope. Well, that's fun. That's pretty dope that belongs in a Miami penthouse first floor I looked at a house in Beverly Hills when I was thinking about living in Beverly Hills Yeah, I had a dinosaur in it see that's cool. I buy the dinosaur for like an extra million the Persians are fun Yes, cuz they own those places. I have a dinosaur.

1:34:02There's one guy There's one guy there that has white tigers in a backyard. What's he has? He has like a white tiger thing in his backyard actual white Tigers. Yes, you're allowed to do that. No So it's not allowed. He's just bowling. He doesn't care. He doesn't even fuck and and and but it's a different kind of well known That's what nobody has tigers Maybe not amongst the people that would it is now. Yeah, yeah Now people go with the address. Oh, I don't know. I've never they don't invite me I'm gonna be standing there with the tiger. Do you ever see that show the the shaw's of sunset? Yes It's all the rich Persians.

1:34:34Yes, tyrangilus Well, I like tyrangilus Which is fun there say there is something fun about those people. I like the gold and the quality and the glitter and the The wasps To me they're like the fading wasp empire where they're loaded, but they drive like a shitty beater car I don't like that and they wear loafers. I like how you do it. I like how I do it Which is disgusting and vulgar and it shows people that money isn't even good right the way I live proves that money isn't even good I buy things at the or when I walk in these stores I buy a dumb hoodie or it's something that looks crazy or a feathered code or whatever And people see me and I they go you know what so what so what we don't have a lot Look at this idiot capitalism needs people like me to go out and do things that are so buffoonish It apps it makes people go you know what this whole thing money ain't it right money ain't it.

1:35:31Let's just go to the lake But it is something gross about I like when people That don't have money because I never had money in the 37 I like had money like 36 and then you do dumb shit No one like parents had no money. Yeah, no no one smart. It does what I do But that's okay the only smart thing I've done is I have some houses are like I can't Pick them up and you know snort them or whatever like right but nobody's Bies to kind of dumb sunglasses or dumb Bentley's like nobody does that if they have a clue right But my parents my mother was a swim teacher and my father was a wine salesman They were good people, but we didn't know anything about money.

1:36:13We never learned about money We had no idea about money So I just you know I just when you get money you go I should do things like go to Beverly Hills and get a like a very Shiny gross grotesque car Because that's what it is that's all point of Beverly Hills you get a nice car you drive up to one of these restaurants the Valais Park it They go that's a nice car Um, and then you just go thank you That's the whole interaction Thank you so much. Good. Thank you You want to get that? Thank you. You want to get the what you should tell them you should go I live in hell and then just walk in you should go.

1:36:52I'm owned Because a lot of those people are you should just go So if you're like at the margins. Oh, yeah, we really shouldn't have that car. That's right. Oh There's a lot of you out there living like that. Well a real estate agent told me once that New York was a $50 million house cash in LA was a $50 million house with a $48 million mortgage. She said people in the West Coast are just leveraged The money's newer it's different. It's not you know, it's old I guess so then a people just there and you there's more like keeping up with the Joneses attitude perhaps Well L .A. is filled with that filled filled with that.

1:37:28That's all the whole things like fake it till you make it right It's the influencer culture right people are renting houses and cars that's right and taking pictures in front of them like Blast and now I think it's just not even fake it till you make it is just fake it till you fake it Yeah, just keep faking yeah, just keep faking it. You gotta keep you make it fake it harder. That's right Yeah, and you know, we were just talking about the average price of a home in LA Is it California itself or L .A. California itself? Yeah, the average price of a home is one million dollars Which is absurd so crazy.

1:38:00It's so crazy. That's so much money and then the average income is like 60 ,000 right 62 is the thing I saw 62 is the average income one million is the average home. It's unsustainable the whole that's beyond yeah You could you imagine the fucking fear that you would have if you had a One million dollar mortgage and you made $60 ,000 a year the worst what's worse about this whole thing go look The houses for million bucks their dumps. Yeah, they're not even nice. No like they it's crazy What you don't get right you'd have to live in like Palmdale to get a nice house for a million dollars You know what it is it's pretty California's the girl that's just hot and forever has been hot but ruins your life right I mean, it's just pretty it's stunningly beautiful.

1:38:46There are parts of it Like Montecito or Santa Barbara. Yeah, you know, this is so pretty But everybody there's houses burned out four times They're on their third divorce. There's been mudslides their kids and rehab like But it's pretty a lady I looked at with a house up there. Yeah, she did Died in a month's line the real estate lady that showed us the house. This is what happens But they'll tell you that in the way they talk yeah Santa Barbara it's always sunset and have this voice and they tell you the worst things about something in the very nice Comway and they go they go this is beautiful.

1:39:19It's a remodel because it burned down and the family was in it but it burned down and it's a remodel and they did a great job and the finishers are beautiful and you know You're not in the path of the mudslide you're not in the direct path But you're in you know, you're in an area that can have seismic activity We don't love that you know the fire department and they got a cold on this Like did the vegetation or something so that when the floods hit Montecito was kind of spared Like they tried and they got cold out of us Like the the LA fire department or whatever was like they had to do certain things Were like they prioritize like that area overall the other areas well the problem is like the fire hits The vegetation gets burned down and then they get the mudslides because they don't have anything protecting the erosion anymore Right, right and that's what happened they had a big -ass fire up there with just they have all the time I mean when I lived in LA where I lived I was we were evacuated three times wow three times one time Maybe to burnt the fucking next door neighbor's house to a very it's by 2030, but it's still in 900 ,000 now.

1:40:28I just saw okay Only nine underground it's a bargain. It's crazy It's a bargain for someone to make $62 ,000 a year. Yeah, just imagine being in the whole like that This is the whole process you can't make Even if you made $62 ,000 a year and had zero expenses Right and didn't have to pay taxes. Yeah, it's still is gonna take you this fucking forever to pay that off You're never gonna be able to pay off before we build we engineered this crisis we chose we allowed this to happen We let foreign billionaires buy stuff we let our own companies buy residential real estate We we let it all happen and it's right before we could enact laws we could stop it anything that's happening could be stopped But it's right before they start telling people okay, live in a pod live in this pod This is right before they start introducing like Okay, you know what's too expensive for you.

1:41:16Guess what we got here's the good news We've got and they're just gonna three D printed housing everywhere in the middle of the desert One is funds right funds buying up houses residential houses. They do it all the time Yeah, they're doing a lot now they do it all the time But I do feel like we are right there where it's gonna get so bad where they're just gonna start whether it's 3D print to go whatever They're doing where they're just gonna have Houses and go here we go Here we go they're all together. They're all you know You're not crazy. There's no reason for you to go out of here City you have it you have a little park over here go to your park and you're gonna live in that and they're gonna have an app And your whole life will be an app.

1:41:54They'll be an app with your city Yeah, everything will be on the app checking when you get outside there You won't need to own a car you won't need to own a house It won't you count down that's right when you leave the 15 minutes that's right you have 40 hours That's right to return and then climate change is gonna be the big reason they'll use Yeah, they'll say because of climate we're limiting a automobile ownership We're limiting this we're limiting that and that seems to be the next step Yeah, that's scary one the climate things are scary one because they're they're using it just like they use everything else And you have to be a good person so you want to support climate change You want to support those right the measures you want to do your part?

1:42:36You don't want to be a psychopath You know, we got to kill these cows they're making methane these people are bad people You know that are doing these things like leaving their home They're sick Do you want to be sick? So that's inevitably I think what happens is all of these because all of these things are it's like it's a crisis that's not This is not organic right. It's not organic that all of these cities are being bought up None of this was inevitable all of this could have been stopped Mm, and it is right now not being stopped Yeah, average income 62 ,000 average house 900 ,000 and they response to that is And then what happens when automation takes over 80 % of the jobs then there's got it then they got to do the world War then we they got to get rid of everybody.

1:43:22What do you think or a lot of people? Do you think when automation takes over There's some sort of a massive decrease in population. Do you think they they provide universal basic income? What do you think they do? I don't know what they do. I think that um It seems like right now they're they're preparing for a world war That genuinely if you if you were to zoom out and read the news Dispassionally like without wanting any answer to come float to the surface It seems like they are preparing for a world war Every article is like conflict with China inevitable within five years say many generals Yeah, every article now every nationals get every leak panic on leak is US readiness needs to be you know within five years a conflict is inevitable, you know Um the draft, you know, but military times we should bring the draft back like you know You're up the future of Europe is in doubt So the military time said that yeah, if we could certainly recently they had a um article Arguing I believe for the return of selective service for the draft And it's definitely something that um It's being talked about you know germany talked about it recently because the ukrain russia thing And there's this idea now that yeah lawmakers moved to automate selective service registration for all men whoa New plan from the house lawmakers would automatically register men for potential military draft when they hit 18 Avoiding potential legal consequences connected to failing to file the paperwork at the proper time Jesus christ mandate automatic registration of all males between 18 and 26 living in america and the selective service system federal database used for a military draft in case of national emergency oh It's fun with the male male part.

1:45:23Yeah male What about trans men trans men trans men trans men are men get them in yeah time to be men now That's what i'm saying Let's go so it does seem like they're preparing for something Fuck and it does seem like It's weird. It's weird. There's a weirdness in the air 100 % there's a weirdness in the air yeah, this is late stage Civilization vibes for sure It gives we got late stage civilization vibes no matter how we slice it. Yeah, you might make it through this Yeah, we might look back at this god dude Tim and Joe were so crazy. Yeah, they're making a big deal out of it nothing happened Or this could be one of those things that people play if you can find a power source.

1:46:06I saved it on my phone Yeah, let's watch they were talking about it. Well, it's also like what scares me more than anything Is the people who aren't feeling this way? Did you see what they did where they gave uh starlink internet to us tribe in the amazon and they all started jerking off? I talked about it on my show this week. They're addicted to porn and social media Yeah Instantly and they overnight the elders tribe elders are freaking out because they're losing control Yeah, they thought it was gonna be great at first But now everyone's lazy knowing what's to work. They'll just flip into their phones all day They're in the jungle and they're going through their show because at first it's great to like look at picture of a flower Yeah, and then three days later.

1:46:45It's like there's guys watching women get choked and You know kicked and whatever and now they're like losing control Yeah, they're on TikTok all day and that's what you you look at you go You know all of the it's that's why it's so important That the tech people will be on the same page for the most part because That's the way you lose control the quickest Mm -hmm, and it seems to be very important and somewhat engineered Maybe not top down, but somewhat coincidental that 90 % of the tech people are all on the same page. Yeah, well about most things those are the type of people though They're all ideologically captured that's all the left the tech is all the left There's a libertarians, but very few very few those are the rebels to have those people in charge of everything It's just so weird because we we had Republicans and Democratic bankers for a long time and no one really came But there's something where the tech people were it's like we can't it seems like They don't want to let There be any diversity in thought with that group because they're they the levers they hold are two Consequential, but they were that way before the levers were consequential sure except for Microsoft right if you think about Microsoft They were like liberal but not financially like they were very very shrewd right financially They're all liberal if you can be liberal and have a $25 million house in Athens, California If that's part of it and then I think that's part of the way we've designed liberal yeah in America then Well, they're just so removed.

1:48:21They're very removed from the consequences of what they're interested in and when you talk to them They you don't you do get the feeling that They are fully in they fully believe and for good reason that they control the country now Yeah, and they think they should that's where the smart ones and they're on the right side That's correct and we have to do everything we can yeah And so when they complied with the government, you know when they Eliminated things from social media that were problematic to the narrative Whether it was on YouTube or Twitter or whatever they did like they thought they were doing the right thing And that they should be doing this because the people they these people are stupid I think everyone thinks they're doing the right thing and I think the thing that surprises me the most is how A lot of those people those positions of power aren't cynical.

1:49:09They aren't you know you you really Would like them to just go. Yeah, it's all bullshit. We're doing what we have to do You you don't most rather that right, but they truly believe they believe what they're saying they really do They do and I think that's if you're in the deep cover CIA agent you believe I think if you're high up in the military You believe I think if you're in the tech Industry you believe I think no matter where you are you believe because so much of your identity That comes dependent on that yes for sure. Yeah also like I experienced that when I was working on a television show When people used to try to tell me you know, oh the government is programming it They're programming these shows to make these shows that we're stupid right people to believe that I'm like you don't understand the people making these shows like these shows and watch these shows They try to make these shows there.

1:49:59There's no one telling them to make these shows this way other than the people that are saying this Way this would make us money right that's all they're doing that's right like you've got this idea that like this is like Design like fear factors designed to make people stupid right no everybody had a good time the people making it had a good time The people making it watch those shows. Yeah, like have you seen some rival? They're all watching them Well, it's like in the culture every time Sam Smith, you know Or somebody dresses up like a devil or tries to do something edgy Everyone talks about well.

1:50:29This is like this engineer thing and I'm like listen a lot of it is people are trying to get attention 100 what they're trying to do Samsmith folk right and that you can't be And I talked about it when they're people are like really enraged about it And I'm like if you are Like gonna be a non -binary I'm different. I'm you know, I'm gonna sell sex you can't look like my uncle And that's what Sam Smith look and they were like well. No, he's a satanist like oh if Satan saw him And said that's who's my representative on a same Smith looks like my uncle at Halloween party. He's drunk That's what he looked like.

1:51:12It's really does he looks like the guy like me or somebody where you're wrong No, so he doesn't have that bowie thing. He doesn't have that sexy thing. I think it's far less They're putting messages into corrupt people. I think Maybe there's people that certainly do that I think overall it's that people Are lazy and want attention. Yeah, it's a lot easier to get attention that way than to keep being good at something Oh Dressing up like the devil is one of the best ways to get attention. That's right. It's one of the oldest ways You remember the outrage for the little da's ex video of course Satan elaptance.

1:51:50Yes Yeah, give a say in the end the blood Anyhow, I'm not saying it's great for a five -year -old, but it's like focus more on the houses being a million bucks Focus more on all that stuff because that's the stuff I think that and long -term the potential draft Focus more on the potential draft in the long in the long term. That's what seems to matter Yeah, but nobody is you know people are just so easily distracted by a good draking Kendrick Lamar beef sure It's so easily. It's so it's so exciting now. All these things happening all the time. It's fun It's fun. It's just a weird fucking time that doesn't seem like it has any Like any there's no patterns that I could see from the past because everything's so accelerated by technology Like you can look at the chaos in the 1960s and then they threw water on that in the 70s in the 80s It was all cocaine and the 90s and it took till like the 2000 the internet comes around for people start exploring some of the ideas that people were You know really connected to in the 60s.

1:52:52Yeah, but now here we are no road map no road map and everything is fucking chaotic Everything's chaotic, but also maybe we'll get like a nice Abatement like maybe for whatever reason It doesn't go in the direction that it seems like it's going yeah, and that It has like a dead cat bounce where I said You know what I mean like we're like, you know you get 20 or 30 years out of this place or more right before Because you don't want a war and you don't want nukes to fly and you don't want all this stuff happening No, and you're ha you're doing all this while they can AI operate weapons now. Yes, including jets Fighter jets that are used AI.

1:53:38We have drones now that are Insanely common. We probably have UFOs sure I think a good percentage of that shit these people are saying when can you charter a UFO? That'll be fun soon you can charter private jet. You should be able to charter a UFO. Yeah There's already people that are doing space X flights right yeah, you can go you can leave our flat earth Wow, you can see the firm sphere Firmament there should be a flat earth tour that will take you to space and only show you part of it Yeah, they should give you special glasses where it looks flat my friend's mother's a flat earther He goes what is what is she do?

1:54:14I got he goes how do we help? I got I don't know One of my friends Eddie Bravo thinks you're flat. Yeah, I love him to death. Yeah What are you gonna do he watches too many YouTube videos? There's quite a few people that think it's flat The problem is like there's it's it's a biblical thing There's a lot of it is based on the depictions of earth and the firmament and all these different things in the body Which by the way was written by people you You lie this idea that people back then had it all laid out perfectly And that the word of God was a translated absolutely perfectly and nobody ever added their own special sauce to the mix Like they do with everything.

1:54:50Yeah, it's crazy everything ever No, it's it's definitely interesting and I think seeing the battle between These ancient texts and the most modern technology and seeing how they fuse together Has is gonna make the planet very interesting sure ancient texts used together with YouTube That's right. What is this Japanese billionaire pulls plug on private deer moon lunar starship mission, huh Why I know about this just got announced uh this week Well, how much money would it cost? I mean You go to the moon. Is that what the idea was? Yeah, they remember like steve okey was gonna be on this oh I was trying to tell Steve don't do that.

1:55:30Yeah, it's this plan. Can we go to the moon? No no one's ever been so how could we go? Well, there's got to be first person. Do you think people went to the moon? I have no idea I had Bart Sabrell on the podcast and do you think he's yeah, yeah Of course you do you're deep in the conspiracy world. Well, I'm deep in the truth that guy He that guy's been on that forever. I had dinner with him. Yeah, like 20 years ago right at least yeah somewhere around 20 years ago I met with him in an Italian restaurant in Beverly Hills Yeah, and he was just laying out his case. Yeah, why the moon landing? I mean, dude There was a book called penetration by this guy Ignacio Suan who's one of these remote viewing guys And that's what got me into that stuff like some of that more stuff he wrote this book And it was about remote viewing and how like the government was was using remote viewing They definitely were trying to you would trying to use it whether they succeeded or not, but You know, I don't know.

1:56:24I mean, I don't know is it is it is it pretty accepted that we didn't go to the moon? No, no I mean, it's controversial still it's Amongst conspiracy conspiracy theorists amongst those folks. Yeah No, none of those folks thinks we think we went to the moon. They think it was all horseshit Some people think we went to the moon, but we fake the footage right because That's so us radiation of space So yeah, and also such an us thing to do to do it and then actually a fuck it. We got to film something There's also like yeah, there is precedent that they did use certain photos that were from obviously from training missions Right, and then they blacked out the background and tried to pretend these are photos of space walks right Because if someone's like doing a space walk like um, there's one of What's his name?

1:57:13Neil Armstrong Buzz Aldrin. Who's the other guy? Michael Collins. Okay. There's Michael Collins in the Gemini 15 and what they did was But this could be overzealous PR people that are doing this right? Sure They took a photograph of a mission where he was in a training mission and you know He's suspended by cables with the inner teaching him how to use the space walk stuff and then they Reverse the image and blacked it out blacked out the background See if you see if you can find that so those types of things give people An indication that there's a problem well They give you an indication that there's a pattern of deception they're willing to lie that they're willing to at least Fuck with the truth for publicity purposes.

1:57:53They want good photographs of something Is there ever like a NASA whistleblower? Yeah, I'm sure so that's it So they took the photo on the left and then they just reversed it to the photo on the right and blacked out the screen So the one on the left obviously they're in training mission the one on the right. They're pretending at space Which is pretty wild I mean really pretty fucking wild they did that that is wild. It's wild But it's then you know Boeing more whistleblowers came out More yeah, there's two more whistleblowers two of them were murdered right? Well, yeah, but I love you they're murdered Oh, did they commit suicide what happened those folks?

1:58:31I think they were murdered What's the story it was the official story about the two Boeing whistleblowers who got whacked Boeing's a national security company. It's an American defense contractor You you're working for Boeing. You're working for the government. You come out and whistleblow How did the fucking FBI like that? They'll get ready to do if you start in whistle blowing What's the official cause of death for the two folks? I don't know that guy was sitting in his car. He shot himself One was suicide because he was sad Obviously, too if I disparaged a great company like Boeing. I love Boeing I realized what have I done to this Probably great company.

1:59:09He probably sucked as a guy. No whistleblowers aren't fun right There's never been a whistleblower that's fun. Maybe he was a fake whistleblower. He knew the house of cards was coming down You probably went out with him and he always talked about how unsafe these planes were and he liked to shut up right shut up I'd fly all the time a lot of people do He's basically like a flat -earther. Oh yeah I don't want to know how bad the planes are. Let them crash Let one of them here's the deal No one's gonna fix it So just don't bother me 50 Boeing whistleblowers still want to talk safety fears despite two informants dying after speaking out Don't kill 50 of them too.

1:59:43Don't think they won't 50 people can commit suicide for all people can absolutely As far as disparaging a great company like Boeing What's this thing here John Barnett 62 quality control engineer just begun testimony in a lawsuit against Boeing in March When he was found in his truck at a South Carolina motel with a fatal self -inflicted gunshot wound Yeah, that's a little fishy Joshua Dean 45 died unexpectedly in early May the quality auditor at spirit arrow systems one of Boeing's biggest suppliers passed away in the hospital following the onset of a fast -moving infection Yeah, they can do that to you sure they can do that to you they can give you an Absolutely, and they certainly can shoot you in the head They can do all of that.

2:00:28Yeah, they get there definitely shoot you in the head and their their attitude is like hey, you know Can you can you not? Fuck up our thing. Yeah, we're trying to fix it. We don't need you whistle blowing. We're trying to fix it You're not helping. Yeah, what are you doing to kill yourself? You want attention? Do you think there's a like James Lindsay has a very interesting take on this he thinks that China um is They they own a competitor to the Boeing plans. I think the strategy is to destabilize Boeing and have the Chinese plans take over So they're killing the whistleblowers? No, that there's a some sort of a push to get this Chinese Jet company to get their products.

2:01:13They're more safe. They're better. Let's just take those Maybe but Boeing is so deeply enmeshed to the national security apparatus. I can't see that ever happening Right, there's no way that we but if you want to do something like that Then you would do it you would like that you would fuck with the safety protocols I mean we do depend on too much For national security we do depend on too many things from China already. Oh, yeah What's medicine like all of that like not only medicine, but like chips, you know, what's that thing that what? What do they do? It's is it reactors or what what are they bought?

2:01:46What are they what are we? They basically said we're not selling you these anymore. Well, they're in charge of so many the minds That's right, you know so many the minds in the Congo are being run by China So I don't I don't know if we'd be so stupid to just start buying all their stuff, but maybe Hmm it's a possibility China's homegrown 737 competitor has to wait a while To fill the vacuum left by Boeing Europe says the COMA comac C19 is too new to approve by 2026 so they have their own version So if they're playing a long game What better way to destabilize the competitor then just listen we need to save money Let's cut back on some of these safety inspectors to have the mechanics do their own safety and absolutely done We're done.

2:02:34We're just put that little piece in place if you just did that And you just take into account people's laziness and how people stuff their job already And then there's no oversight for the mechanics What's the possibility that mistakes gonna be made 100 % yeah Well corporate espionage is probably one of the strongest talents and One of the things they've excelled at man's of that's how they do it though Yeah, Lindsey's right when he said that to me. I was like Jesus Christ. He might be right He might be right. Yeah, I just don't want to sit in a plane and be fucking nervous. Oh, yeah for no reason Yeah, so I want to ask I want the Boeing people to shut their fucking mouths Let this thing go down the runway Let me feel like it's okay And if it happens it happens you know with the ultimate conspiracy theory is yeah that trump has a Boeing plane and that's why they're doing this Whoa, I got you without that's something why that one guy you excited that isn't just saying yeah Imagine that imagine that's what they did what would you do what happens if he dies?

2:03:38I imagine that I don't know Raisies are gonna be if he gets whacked I don't know if they're gonna do that. I think they're gonna try to go to war with China Like I think they're gonna go to war or something. Yeah, I think they're gonna it if They are gonna do anything I think they just fucking try to do something That either Delays an election or makes an election harder to have or something I don't know, but if they were gonna do something It might have been it might be that and I don't know and they may do nothing they may just you know have a fair election. I don't know This is the question this is what we're talking about earlier if with they're willing to deceive us with the steel dossier They're willing to deceive us with what they did with Bernie and yes What they did with RFKG in the primary if they willing to do all that Why would we think that they wouldn't fuck with the election like this is the one thing that they wouldn't fuck with and then if you Question it at all.

2:04:40Yeah, especially Trump because nobody really cared when everybody else questioned the elections right nobody cared when Hillary went around forever Questioning the elections nobody cared every everybody has questioned elections in this country for a very long time Standard moves Bush v Gore Yes, yes, remember the yes, it's kind of a standard move standard move It's been getting more and more Malevolent in the sense that you know people you know after Trump won it was it was a whole thing with Russia Yeah, and then I don't know I haven't looked at any specific evidence for the fuckery But I think there's probably fuckery all over the place is probably fuckery in every election There's got to be some that's not zero The amount of election fraud isn't zero this one they have to do something big This one will have to be if something's gonna happen It's probably gonna have to be something big They're gonna have to wag the dog on such a You know in such a way That America's like whoa And they're ready they're ready there's some articles coming out being like you know could a foreign government perhaps take advantage of you know Yeah, so who knows what they're playing.

2:05:52I just know that They don't want him in in a way that I've never seen never never been more transparent never been more transparent how much they do not want him in Uh, and I'm not even saying that You can't criticize him or you have to love him or anything. I'm just speaking simply again from looking at The measures taken since he announced a candidate city and here's what's really crazy Yeah, I think they thought they did enough propaganda wise before 2016 for him to lose yes, so when you watch all the News reports and all their coverage. It was like 90 % Hillary was gonna win that's right And then as the night went on everybody's like holy shit.

2:06:37He won So they went through the egg on their face. They went through all that. They're not gonna let that happen again and now He's an overwhelming favorite. Yes, well, he's a favorite if the election happened now in the election was fair he would win Right. Yes, like he's several points ahead of Biden right that's right what's the latest polls? Because he went up in the polls after the conviction which was such a mistake for them to try to do that because he raised 40 million dollars Something like that. There's way more than that maybe more I think it's like a hundred million crash his campaign website.

2:07:11Yeah Yeah, what is that poll? How do they like question everybody real quick like when some new break some news breaks to like What do you think now right who the question PM how do they get a new well? I always say this They're only getting results from people dumb enough to answer polls So that by the way is a skewed response for sure To polls in today's day and age There's no reason to answer them. Why are you doing that social stigma to sang Trump? Oh, yeah So I think that you have to weigh the numbers like that right So there is a little bit of a social stigma to saying Trump mm -hmm Or certainly there was maybe it's going away, but there was so you might want to wait the poll To that as well that's a hundred percent true and go there's a certain percentage of people that are lying in saying Biden who aren't gonna vote for Biden right So a close race might really mean that Trump is up a few percentage points I think he's up a few percentage points already I think we're just like six and I think I talked to a lot of hard -quart leftists that are Really resigned to him winning and don't care because they say Maybe we did not well.

2:08:17They said we did not vote for Biden to Go to war with you create you know to go to war with Russia through Ukraine. We didn't vote for jackup inflation jackup inflation We didn't vote for an unending commitment to whatever Israel wants to do in Gaza. We didn't vote for House prices being higher than they've ever been interest rates being higher than they've ever been We didn't vote for any of that There uh he's done a lot for the environment Biden supposedly But also a lot of people didn't vote for All the taxes that come along with that what is the new one they're doing they're they're going after the guy from the epoch times For a vessel mentor something epoch times hard core right wing side What is which is hilarious epoch times is hilarious that is me for every so this is the addon Welcome to the end Money laundering yeah charges alleges 67 million dollar global money laundering scheme So what's see this is the headline Right what's the actual story?

2:09:17What's a good place to go probably ap's probably the bit more balanced Go to ap just for the fuck of it all right. What will become the epoch times is chief financial officer accused of money laundering Okay, what is the accusation? What is epoch times? Dude federal prosecutors in New York charged Boy say that dudes name waydong guan of C. Carcass new jersey chief financial officer of the epoch times of steering at least 67 million dollars in criminal proceeds Much from fraudulently obtained unemployment insurance benefits to the company its affiliates and himself guan pleaded not guilty But was suspended by the epoch times which agreed to cooperate with prosecutors Case falls into question future for company that will that was a key online supporter of trump and a spreader of conspiracy theories Hmm, so what is the 67 million dollars of unemployment?

2:10:12That's what it's saying How do they do it? How do they do that? What is this is all just like what does it mean for the for the epoch times? But what is like how did he do it? How would have to come out in the trial? You'd have to wait for the trial They don't say what they're accusing them of That I think that was I mean they're accusing them of Stealing money stealing money laundering money. I guess and that's you think the top executive epoch times So he's just a guy that worked there a right wing media company has been arrested and charged with laundering at least 67 million dollars and stole so he might have actually done it and they might just mean he they're not Trying to close the company right he's not the he's just the chief financial officer Right, right, so he might have actually done it.

2:11:00I don't know chief financial officer was arrested Monday and the indictment headed up on May 23rd was unsealed The enter to plea of not guilty his lawyer federal public public defender. Why does he have a public defender? I guess he lost all his money is that that seems crazy is that That seems crazy The cliente comment and if convicted mr Guan faces a maximum sentence of 20 years for the money laundering charge and 30 years for each bank for oh Jesus He's fucked epoch times affiliated with Falun Gong a spiritual movement banned in China and was for years and obscure Free print newspaper dedicated largely to criticizing the Chinese Communist Party and recent years the outlet transformed itself in To a prominent supporter of Donald J Trump and his allies on the right.

2:11:50Oh, they're probably grifting It's probably a drink to make a couple of bucks. It's a grifty company. Yeah, according to prosecutors mr Guan ran a sprawling trends national scheme over four years to buy prepaid debit cards on the internet at a discount Using cryptocurrency and then deposit the cards money into both personal and company accounts The debit cards were loaded with illegally obtained funds prosecutors said some of which was fraudulent E -lip -tained unemployment insurance benefits Oh, wow, this seems deep Who but I be talent gum but hold please because if you're fucking the type of dude Yeah, who has a website that's basically dedicated to criticizing the Chinese Communist Party And then all of a sudden you flip and become a pro Trump supporter That sounds to me like one of those fucking Facebook pages that rushes.

2:12:40Yes Yes, I did take like a Christian, but they used to have a meme and then it's a black lives matter page And then it becomes a trans rights page. Yeah, they're just there's a ton of those folks out there grifting And if one of those guys was also involved in illegal monitoring laundry Yeah, that seems like go and sell some chaos probably what they do go so some chaos. It's a great job I'd like to do it in China for us. I mean if they're hiring these but why can't America? Let's get an army of lunatics People like me send me into China. I'll start problem. They'd kill me quickly Yeah, you couldn't do it there.

2:13:14That's why we did we lacked the advantages because you can come here and really start some shit Do you think that our government is doing that here too? I think elements of it probably are for sure they have to be they have to be why they must be if China is doing that And we know that Russia's doing that if that we know that they're doing that well That what would Navalny have been let's think about this right now Navalny might be he might be a great Russian patriot who was discussible Vladimir, but I do know we started his career with very different views than the views he began espousing after He seems like a guy that the CIA has a conversation with and then becomes Mm -hmm a prominent crap.

2:14:01I'm not saying that it's possible, but so We're doing things like that one hundred probably and then they're doing things to us where they're like making my aunt kind of more racist They're starting with a pretty racist person, but They're twisting her and they're getting her more racist with memes with memes and with all kinds of crap I mean things they share that might not even be true. Yeah, she's like a long eye because he's long Island boomers now They're just they're like they're just with throwing stuff at him and they're just like catching with their teeth like a dog They share it to their honor based book share it and they don't know what's going on And they're just kind of like it's all you know, it's all not my mom's my friends mother thinks McDonald's is serving human meat So that's where we know you know a certain percentage of the population is kids are friend because they can't handle all this stuff We talked about here.

2:14:58Yeah, it's hard for people to realize how corrupt things are but how they've always been yeah So if you learn all of this in an hour Your mind melts right and then you start going is Chrissy Teague and a vampire Because every other sec up is down and black is white. Yeah. Yeah. There's too much information It's too much information, but if you know about JFK or rfk or martin Luther King or Quintelper anything Yeah, you have the context to put a lot of this stuff in right so you're not like Oh, your mind doesn't melt immediately Right it melts slowly real slow yeah Yeah, you have if you just can keep people fighting about everything and everything being something that they have to uncover and all this chaos You can get a lot done behind the scenes you need to you have to have people completely scattered have no Yeah, you can have people like yeah calm no and everybody fine and paying attention to what you're doing and then you got a bless You got to go every now and then you got to go um, you know me and then then there's like an NFT party Everybody has like a time with a crypto is killing it and everybody gets a little money and then they go Okay, well, we got a clamp down on this right and then the internet's free and then like man Let's clamp down on this and it's just they oscillate between clamping down on things and then letting people run with them for a little bit God damn it To delicate balance you imagine being in charge of chaos.

2:16:26Oh, you think there's a guy that's like runs a chaos department in the deep state Well, I think there's a there's many guys that do and ladies and do you think that they forgot that what is their view of the world If they're the ones that are instigating all this chaos and they're the ones that are fueling it online if they're working to actively do that and Comment on things on Twitter and get things crazy What is their view of the world? I think I think the the only view those people have ever had is the alternative is worse Right if we don't think that's the only view they've had I think when they were doing MK ultra On people I think they were going the alternative is worse It's worse and you can justify a lot of things when they were carpet bombing Vietnam It's the alternative is worse.

2:17:17I think that's kind of the only view that those guys can have in in In that echelon of the national security apparatus. They can't I don't think they're analyzing it too much outside of that Jesus Christ. Yeah This is not leaving me feeling good. Damn well. I was hoping to be more Well, we're gonna tell jokes Tonight tonight should be fun Such fun to tell jokes We are you splitting your time you're all over the place now? I'm all over the place I spend most of my time in the French protectorate Monaco Where I find honest people And It's so good to have honest people around you. I'm very susceptible to environments a lot of people that live on boats over No, no, no, I'm all over the place.

2:18:04You mean Sam talent. We're just in Europe for like three weeks. It was amazing I'm here sandwiches here I'm gonna spend a lot of time here. I think in the summer fall because not off the road So it's like I'm gonna be here. I'll be popping in LA a little bit nice, you know, I'll be around We're doing something cool with Netflix. We can't say it. It's not a stand -up special something cool It's like an election type special thing. Oh, that's exciting. Yeah, it's it's you know, it'll be fun and I'm excited about that and You know, it's just fun to do fun stuff and who knows we don't know yeah fun.

2:18:37It could all Work out It could all work out. It probably will all work out. That's right. I mean you can look back on there's a an Assyrian tablet I think yeah fucking 4 ,000 years ago or something like that where I'm seeing I'm pretty sure I saved it where they were talking about the end of the world Yeah I think I saved it. It's just one of those things. It's like human beings always have that feeling that it's all falling apart They always have that feeling that at a certain point in time all of our luck's gonna run out And it has that's the other thing that's the other thing like it actually at one point is a great Eddie Pepaton joke where he goes You know every generation thinks There's is the one where the world ends he goes, but we are right Here it is a Syrian clay tablet dating to around 2 ,800 BC bears the inscription our earth is degenerative in these later days there are signs that the world is speedily coming to an end bribery and corruption are common Children no longer obey their parents every man wants to write a book and the What happened?

2:19:46I tried to get the book or it kind of also but I had it right there Yeah, and the end of the world is evidently approaching That's amazing So this is like this is a good way to end this To just explain to people This fear that we have had is just we are in a constant state of change and a constant battle of Truth and propaganda and it's always been that way and that this tablet from 4 ,800 years ago and it'll always be that one it's always gonna be it's always gonna be that we're monkeys We're crazy monkeys so find find something fun out there to do yeah, like come to the mothership if you can come to the mothership and and not this week and it's sold out Um, are you here this weekend?

2:20:26I'm here this weekend. Oh shit. I'm here to be can nice. I am here baby. I'm in less exciting So we're gonna do fallen gun. Yeah, the spirit Chinese spiritual warfare. If you like Chinese spiritual warfare These shells will be for you the text message. I'm gonna be sending you in the future gonna be green Oh, you're going to yeah, I'm gonna try to I'm trying to switch over you're going to andrade I'm gonna see what up. I don't like being trapped. I fell goes trap I got anxiety about switching. I don't like it either I get anxiety about switching when I see that crazy when that green text message comes in It's gonna be so weird though, but it is weird the whole thing.

2:21:04It's weird that we're so trapped Yes, and in this wonderful apple bubble did you a great job make a great phone? It's great great job. Everything works great It's great. I love the way you can send videos and air drop people and FaceTime people. I love it But I also don't let you have the new charger all the time. Well, no, not anymore Now it's usbc everything is you see because of Europe is actually forcing apple to comply all of these all of these like You know social media sites they or whatever it is the apples not social media But like all these tech companies they have downsides. Mm -hmm And then they have things that are really good Facebook had things that were really good But they also sell maids in the Philippines I was watching there was an Instagram page It was all dedicated to finding people in prison that you could date when they get out Thank God Thank God I was looking at it's like how many people yeah, or just like captain save a hoe Or just right home looking at these people going It's a redeemable country meet an inmate lonely inmates in the u .s.

2:22:11Seek pen pals I just typed an hot single inmates Oh I see the videos of this girl around where they're like making like a singles video There's gotta be guys and gals that are interested in that like that's their thing you're gonna love a person Get someone right look they can't they don't have nowhere to stay they can stay with me hop you know Yeah, me to hot prison pal you'll be glad you did exclamation point Well if you want to meet people that have been in jail come to one of my shows And it's a very good chance. It's a highlight. We all meet them. Yeah, I like the hood Um, all right. Let's wrap this bitch.

2:22:46You're the best. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate you. I'm gonna come see you this weekend I hope so I want to I'm gonna see you set thank you buddy. Um tell everybody don't tell me which night. I'll be nervous. Okay. I won't okay Tell um tell it's just Tim J Dylan. It's Tim Dylan J. Dylan right? Oh, yeah, I'm Instagram Tim J Dylan on Instagram and And X and then Tim Dylan show if you like podcasts. Yeah, where people yell is the best you're the best Rantor on earth. Well, it's really sweet of you. It's I really your show you by yourself talking about things. Yeah, I appreciate it One of the great joys and like thank you so much.

2:23:21My pleasure. Thank you. Bye buddy

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