#2168 - Tyler Fischer

25 Jun 2024 · 2 h 30 min

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Podcast Episode Summary: The Joe Rogan Experience

Episode Title: #2168 - Tyler Fischer Guest: Tyler Fischer, Stand-up Comic, Actor, Filmmaker Podcast Host: Joe Rogan Platform: [YouTube](https://youtu.be/FmvJjMGX7hw?si=PyOsFVH4as8HMHBD)

Introduction

  • Joe Rogan kicks off the podcast with stand-up comic Tyler Fischer, discussing his career and experiences as a performer.
  • Tyler Fischer shares insights on his latest comedy special, "The Election Special | LIVE at Comedy Mothership," available on YouTube.

Tyler Fischer's Background

  • Began performing at 17/18 years old, started with improv and stand-up.
  • Discusses transformative high school experiences with his acting teacher, who encouraged him to pursue comedy.

The Comedy Scene

  • Fischer talks about the current state of the New York comedy scene versus Texas, emphasizing the freedom and vibrancy in Texas.
  • Discussion about how different environments impact comic performances and growth.

Personal Growth and Comedy

  • Fischer narrates his early life challenges, gang involvement, and how comedy served as a positive outlet.
  • The importance of a mentor and pivotal moments that shape one's career path.

The Influence of Notable Comedians

  • Mentions Brian Holtzman as a comedic influence and discusses the dynamics of his performances.
  • The importance of having a space like the Comedy Mothership, which provides freedom for comics to explore humor without restrictions.

Joe Rogan and Tyler Fischer on Career Risks

  • Conversation about the risks and rewards of taking chances in both personal and professional life.
  • Rogan shares insights from his move to Texas and opening the Comedy Mothership, emphasizing the value of following one's instincts.

Challenges in the Industry

  • Fischer shares experiences of discrimination against white male comics in the industry, recording instances of being denied opportunities.
  • Discusses ongoing legal actions and the broader issue of identity politics impacting the comedy scene.

The Role of Social Media and Expression

  • Discussion on the impact of social media censorship on comedy and creative expression.
  • Fischer shares stories of his experiences with platform bans and how it affected his career.

Political and Cultural Commentary

  • Rogan and Fischer discuss cultural swings in America, the role of comedy in social issues, and the impact of political correctness.
  • Commentary on current political figures, media narratives, and the changing landscape of public discourse.

Technological Advancements and Concerns

  • Rogan mentions AI's potential role in bypassing encryption and privacy concerns, as discussed by experts.
  • The implications of technology on personal freedoms and governmental overreach.

Conclusion

  • Tyler Fischer outlines his upcoming tour and projects.
  • Expresses gratitude for the opportunities and support at the Comedy Mothership.

Links

  • [Tyler Fischer's Website](www.tylerfischer.com)
  • [Election Special on YouTube](https://youtu.be/FmvJjMGX7hw?si=PyOsFVH4as8HMHBD)

Final Thoughts

  • Rogan and Fischer emphasize the importance of maintaining authenticity and courage in creative pursuits.
  • The episode closes with mutual appreciation for the thriving comedy environment in Austin, Texas, and the promising future it holds for comedians.

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0:03The Joe Rogan Experience Show me my day, Joe Rogan podcast my night, all day!

0:13Oh, hey, Joe Rogan. Is there a left or right here? No, it's all mono. What's crackin' brother? Ah, yeah, let me just get a little uh, little confidence here. I'm so small, this is like a large coffee to me. They'll make you pee, they'll make you pee. That's one thing in this process, too. I'm peeing right now, dude. I'm just gonna do the bite and just let it out. R -E -P'd in that seat three or four times yesterday. Yesterday? Yeah, he pissed into bud -like cans. He's so disgusting. Are you here? Oh, yeah, every time he's here. I didn't know he's here. He pees into things. I'm trying to get him to move here.

0:51He's not going to. He's a New Yorker. Yeah. But he's here all the time. I mean, he might as well live here. He's here like four or five times a year. Yeah, just good enough. Good enough. He should, he should move here. He's so funny, man. I love watching him at the Comedy Cellar. Because he's one of the guys that just fuckin' goes for it. Yeah, he definitely goes for it. It's got him in a lot of trouble. It all comes down the wash, though. Well, if you're talented, yeah. Yeah. And he's definitely talented. He's just a wild boy. I watch the crowd when he's on. Because I like to see the crowd just slowly kind of.

1:28He's working through stuff. He gets messy. I like that. Yeah. They put me and him on at the late, late shows now. In the show? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. What is New York's scene like these days? Well, I'm here now. We'll say that. With an American flag on. This is what it does to you, man. Dude, before I moved here, I was a six -year -old Jamaican woman. Look what Texas does to you. It gets you. It's bones. It's just a fun thing to be. It's fun to be a Texan. Someone's the other day on the street said it goes, you look like Kid Rock, fuck, Zach Elephanakis. I was like, yeah, that works. Yeah, that tracks.

2:11How long have you been out here now? Oh, like two weeks. Wow. It's like a dream. This has been a weird, including this. It's all a weird dream. How long have you been doing stand -up now? I mean, I got on stage when I was 17 or 18 in high school, started doing improv and stand -up on stage. That's almost 20 years. Oh, wow. And then I went to college. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was failing on a high school. I needed like a B to pass. And I was friends with the acting teacher. We would drink together. What? In public school? In public school. Wow. Yeah, we would drink together and smoke. And I thought if I take his class, he's got to give me an A or I can get him sent to jail probably for all this bad behavior.

2:52And so I took this acting class and I got on stage. And he pulls me aside. Like day one, he goes, this is what you need to do with your life. Wow. And I go, okay. Okay. Stop drinking. Stop smoking. I was like in a gang. I was growing wheat. Yeah, I was a nightmare kid. People think I'm just this nice little guy. I was a fucking monster. And getting on stage. And I got all that energy out. And it's what I've been doing every day since. Wow. Yeah. That's cool that someone recognized that because most of the time they take one person. Yeah. It's insane. It takes one person and, you know, that one person literally can change your life because you're in this part of your life where you're not, you don't know what the fuck you're going to do.

3:37No. And then someone gives you a direction and they say, hey, you're really good at this. This is your thing. That's, oh my god, I found my thing. That day you go home, you're like, I found my thing. Yeah. He had his first class. We had to dance on stage. He was like, he was wild. He was wild. Oh, he was wild, dude. He was a playwright. He'd take the metronorthon from Connecticut, New Haven to put on little plays. And I just thought, I just thought it was the sexiest thing. It was like this guy was like living in the 1920s or something. Like a real artist. Yeah. Yeah. And he goes, he goes, we're going to humiliate ourselves day one.

4:13He goes, it's going to be so bad. So everything you do after this is going to be a breeze. And I've, I've still used that to this day with standup. You got to get messy. You got to, so he said, we're going to go do the silliest dances in the way I went home. I was practicing in the, in the bathroom. Just sweating turner. I've never performed. And I get on stage. You'd be like, sillier, weirder, weirder. Until you just had a mental breakdown. And then after that, doing a little shake spear was fine. Oh, that's an interesting strategy. It makes someone break you down and go, you're allowed to fuck up.

4:48You're allowed to get messy. Yeah. And that's why I got a place here. Because I went to your club and I saw Brian Holtsman. And I go, wait a minute, you're allowed to do this? There's a place where you're allowed to say whatever you want. Well, Brian Holtsman was like a hero of comedians in Los Angeles. But he didn't get good spots. Unfortunately, they put him on really late at the end of the show. And it was a wild thing to watch. You know, you watch like 20, 30 people in the audience. This guy's saying, the most hilarious, but yet horrific things. And he just never got the respect that he deserves.

5:27I've known Brian for, I guess, around 30 years now. When we first started at the store, we were like young hot shots. He was like this young, dark haired, slick back. Like really interesting guy. Like really, like same style that he has now he had back then. I can't imagine him with any more energy than he has now though. It was the same guy. Oh, his energy has not waned at all. Which is why he's so good. You know, like some people slow down. It sucks. It sucks to say. Yeah. You know, cause they slow down. You don't want to say anything to them. You know, like, hey man, you got to pick it up. Yeah.

6:09Whatever the fuck you used to be, you got to bring that back. Cause it turned up a little bit. Yeah, you're a little too casual up there. I want to say lazy. But there's like, you're too tired. Yeah. You got to fire the fuck up. Hulsman never lost that kind of, that fucker. You know that fucking crazy. But he didn't have a show, like a real showcase. He didn't have like a real, you know, like a real awesome spot where he could perform in front of crowds that weren't tired and hadn't seen three hours of comedy. But so now we've got him headlining. Yeah. You know, and people come to see him. They know who he is.

6:47They get excited. People have seen him multiple times. Yeah, cult following here. It's great. It definitely does, yeah. So that was it. I saw him once and then I was like, I went to like the open mic or whatever. You know? It was in town doing the vulcan, I think. And then I go, I'm going to try to get him an audition. Adam wasn't here. Flew back. Got the audition. Then did a couple spots. Then did a guest spot on Hulsman show. And then I was in the car in New York. I pull over. I'm just looking at apartments in Texas. I just call the guy. I go, hey, can I move there? I made him an offer. I made him an offer.

7:19That was like insane. I'm renting. He literally goes, are you fucking with me, dude? And the next day he goes, they took your offer. And that was it. Wow. And it was like, I know Ron White calls it comedy camp. It feels like that. When I'm landing here, it feels like Camp David or something. Yeah. Are you said it yesterday? He said, you made a festival here every week. It's like a festival. It's a festival. Yeah. I wasn't sure if I'd made the right move. And then I'm on the plane. And it's Rose and Barr. The next row back, Sebastian Manescalco. And I'm right behind him. Wow. And I was losing my fucking mind.

7:58I was like, I'll go, this is it. Yeah. Well, whenever you don't know if you should do something. And you're like, you want to do something. But then you have that little, oh, I don't know. Is this right? You got to always go for it. You got to do it. You got to go for it. And you get better at that as you age, you know? Yeah. It's like you have to, you got to fuck up a lot. And they go, I don't fuck up a little less this time. Yeah. The fuck up thing. But it's also just like taking chances, going for things. It's very important. Every time I've ever done it, it's been good. My whole life. Every single time.

8:29Whether it's first time going on stage, you know, even this, even like moving here. Sure. You know, because I have a family. And I had a business, you know, this podcast that requires guests. And yeah. I had all these people that already lived in LA. I had this built in, you know, group of people that I would have on. And it's just like, coming out here was, but I was like, this is, this is the move. And then opening the club is like, this is the move. Yeah. And it's going to be fucking annoying. It's going to be a lot of energy, a lot of stuff going on. A lot of things to be attention to, but that's what really needs to happen.

9:01You get to practice your hour a couple of times a week and the road comes to you. That's great. That definitely helps a lot. It's just like, you see so much healthier. It's crazy. How much better you feel when you don't travel every week. Yeah. It's nuts. I just started touring this year. It wears you. Holy shit. Yeah, it gets, it's like getting drunk. Yeah. It's like getting drunk and then you have a show that night. And then you have another show and then you fly home and you get drunk flying home. Because it feels like when you land, like you're hungover. Yeah. You're just like, oh, why am I so worn the fuck out?

9:36And with the heat here, man. Yeah. You get used to that. Kind of, well, I understand Biden a little more. I've been walking around. He's like, where am I? Where am I? Where am I? Shit in my - This episode is brought to you by Buffalo Trace Distillery. I actually have some Buffalo Trace cigars here. They just sent me. One of the world's most award -winning distilleries that's been making whiskey the same way for more than 200 years, made as a tribute to the rugged, free spirited pioneers who blaze their own trail to new frontiers. It embodies the perfectly untamed spirit of independence. It defines what an award -winning bourbon should be.

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11:10Pants? Ha. He's silly boy. Did you, I was telling you before this, this mayoral race in San Francisco, this might be the end. This might be like San Francisco is a failed city. I mean, it really is. But there's no better indication of how failed it is than listening to this debate. Listening to these people argue about what's important in San Francisco. This was on the Jesse Waters show. You got to listen to this. Because how many drag queens do you know? You were at the debate last week and couldn't name any drag queens on your own. I was wondering if you today, this is an opportunity to redeem yourself.

11:58And if you could name three LGBTQ advisers for your campaign and three drag queens in San Francisco. The San Francisco. It's just a match. Shut the fuck up. And that was the thing she was going to sit down on. This is the actual current mayor of San Francisco, London breed, that's her right. And she's like, can you name three drag queens? Can you name three mentally ill men who address up like the most tartish caricatures? Like famous or just like pixie that does the, you know, the kid's story hour down in the luxury. I know Lexus. Yeah. Lexus down at the club. Does the burlesque show? What the fuck are you talking about?

12:45Yeah. Now sit back and enjoy. This is sit back and enjoy the show. When woke, wokeism just takes on this energy and it gets crazier and crazier. I mean, look at the sexuality acronym. It used to be gay and lesbian. Yeah. Yeah. It is watching politicians have to recite that. Oh, it's so. It's like. Trudeau is going to the head. Yeah. Yeah. Trudeau has them all down. But the, my favorite is two A .I. Plus. Two S. Plus is like everybody's in this gang. That's not a white male. Like it's basically, you mean the American flag? That would be a great flag to represent everybody. By racial people of color.

13:26Like there's so many different things. Indigenous. There's two spirits. Two spirits in there, which is my favorite. Yeah. I'm a two -spirit. Yeah. What the fuck are you? Why not three? Why not four? Why not 45? You're limiting yourself. And then A, which is hilarious too, because how do they have any say? They're asexual. Asexual. Like how are they in there with the perverts? How are they in there with the freaks? How are they in there with the transgender people? How are they in there with fucking guys wearing leather thongs and G -strings walking down the street? We're like, we don't want any part of this.

14:02How does the A's, how are the A's in that? They just don't want to fuck. My friend came out as bisexual. This guy in New York. And he goes, well, I've been so oppressed. I'm like, am I supposed to feel bad that you get the fuck everybody? Really? He's been oppressed, how so? I don't know. I don't know. I mean, it's a fun thing to say. It's a fun thing to say. Yeah. And it also gives you like a position where people have to go, oh my God. I'm so sorry. You know, what did I do? George Bush was like talking about pride the other day. And I was like, if he was, if he was, yeah, he was on some interview.

14:39And I was like, if he was president today having to, you know, the L, the LMA of foes, the HTVs, the PB and J's. These are tasty folks, you know. My cousins are translistened. Now watch this draft. But think about how much has changed since him. Well, he is so reasonable now in compare. I used to have a joke about Bush getting elected about the Iraq war and that there's people in the back of the room. And their idea was the only way to find out how dumb people really are is to have a dumb president and see if everybody freaks out. Because the only way they know that he's dumb is if they're smarter than him.

15:20Yeah. So the only way to find out is put a dumb president and see how everybody responds. And then it was all about the Iraq war and then all these things happen like what they bleed and then at the end of it, I go, I think the people in the back of the room were going, I think we can go to the Dumber. And they were right. Yeah. They were so right. Well, people act like Trump and Biden are the first, like, when a weird, we had an autistic cowboy run in the country for eight years. We wanted eight years of that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but people didn't want it at the end, which is why Obama won. Yeah.

15:52You know, which is what this country always does. We swing hard one way and then we swing the other way. And Duncan Trussell said this when they were smashing windows and looting during the George Floyd protests. Duncan said, dude, this is going to be so bad because we're going to have a right wing authoritarian president next. And I thought about it. I was like, God damn, he's probably right. Because that's really what happens. There's like an over correction one way and it'll like the San Francisco London breed mayor thing. This is an over correction to discrimination. So there is some discrimination of gay people.

16:30There's discrimination of all kinds of people. How now though? Well, they're still, they're still with gay people for sure. There's still people that are homophobic, especially religious people. It's too complicated now because it's like, well, there's that. And then there's, you know, gay guys who dress up as women who want to read the kids. And then there's those who cut their dicks. It's too. My dad came out of the closet when I was seven. So I was raised in this stuff. Came out as racist. But he. No, he's gay. I got to get that. I have to do that. Mom remarried. And then my dad with a husband.

17:02And so it's funny. I try to talk about this like, well, shut up straight white guy. You know, this isn't your lived experience. I'm like, no, it is. It is. Do you say what? Do you say this on stage? I talk about it on stage. I talk about it everywhere. Yeah, people started booing me when I started talking about this in New York City a long time ago. It was the first time where I talked about my personal life because I have a crazy, everyone is a crazy life. What were they booing? Well, they're just like, you can't talk, you can't talk about, you can't, that's their life. You can't talk about what it's like to be a gay person.

17:31And it's like, when I was seven, I was hiding it from my friends. So I was living like a closeted gay guy. I went to insane lengths to hide my dad having a boyfriend because back this was 1993. That's when it was, you know, and prior, that's when it was bad. But I imagine what guys like that think of what's going on now. To be like, you're like a two -spirit hetero, whatever this shit is. Yeah. And back then it was bad. But when I was in middle school, my friend Josh, his mom was gay. And he didn't tell us. And nobody talked about it. But I... Let's be your mom's a little cooler though. She made, she had the whole thing.

18:17Like she was wearing the sleeveless vest with her back arms. She was a big lady and she had a girlfriend with short hair. There was always over the house. It was like the whole, like, you'd go, who's that lady? Oh, that's my mom's friend. Why is she always over here? She lived with you? That's exactly what happened. It was one of them things. Yeah. But I lived in San Francisco. And so when I moved to Boston, I moved to Florida for a few years, then we moved to Boston. Like, I had been around K people from the time I was seven to eleven. Like my neighbors were gay. My aunt used to go over and play bongos with them naked.

18:47They would smoke pot and play bongos. I remember I was like, I was just... Play cooler. Yeah. And she just loved the fact she could just be naked around guys and no one cared. But it was just this thing where like the whole neighborhood was gay. Everybody was gay. So gay was super normal to me. I did... But so my friend was like hiding the fact that his mom was gay. You know, we never really pressed him on it. But me and my other friend were like, yeah, it was mom's gay, right? Like, yeah, yeah. Obviously. But yeah, we were 13. Like, what are you gonna do? For men, I think it was associated with AIDS.

19:20So I remember I was in the car. And, you know, we would like raise money for AIDS runs and all this stuff. And my friends like, that's the AIDS thing, right? And I would tell them, my dad's an attorney. I would tell him, because he goes to my partner. And I would tell my friends, they go, why is your dad's partner sleeping? That's his law partner. I go, they're working on a case. They're gonna be up all night, fellas. You know, if you hear some banging and moaning, and sit there recreating the murder, they're in there. I would come up with this. It's probably why I'm good writer. Because back then, it was not accepted at all.

19:54When did everybody figure it out? I never told anybody. Wow. Yeah, I think I was in college the first time I told somebody. Because I was a theater major. So it was like, I was safe. Yeah. I was the weird one being stressed. And it also gives you like social props. It does, yeah. Straight street cred. Yeah. I'll take whatever I can get now. When you got resting January 6th, man, you need something. Do you think you have January 6th? Well, you do with that hat. Resting January 6th, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I don't care. I was raised to hate America. All that bullshit. I fucking love this country, man.

20:29It's real love it. There's no reason to hate America. No. We should always hate bad behavior in all groups of people. Left and right. Yeah. Shitty, evil people on both sides. That's what we're supposed to hate. We're not supposed to hate America. In the history, it's history. Got to honor it. Even like the stuff growing up with my dad and stuff. I had a lot of resentment about that. But I thought, you know what? That was my burden to bear. And I have friends who, you know, who saw my, you know, gay was bad back then. But they'd see my dad being a great dad. And cookin' this dinner. And so their introduction to a homosexual was this normal guy.

21:09My dad, he looks like he was like, it looks like Bruce Willis and fucking, he's just a normal dude. He's not a feminine. He doesn't do the like, yeah, it's like, you know. Which is interesting, right? There's different groups of gay people. We associate gay with people who behave in a very specific, exaggerated way. Yeah. But, you know. Well, they're the loudest ones on the floats with their dick out in a four -year -old's face. But that's what's weird. It's like, it's not just gay pride. It's overtly sexual behavior pride, you know? Those things should have nothing to do with it. They're so different.

21:48Like, I know so many gay guys that are just like, you would never know unless they told you they were gay. They just seemed like men. Do you think people are actually homophobic? Or did they're just, they have an issue with it getting sort of convoluted into this sexual thing that our kids are seeing? I think people who are homophobic just lack nuance. They don't understand that there's weird people in every group. Like, would you be heterophobic if you found out about people that are child molesters? You know, like, if there was men that wanted to date 14 -year -old girls and have sex with 14 -year -old girls, you wouldn't be heterophobic because of that.

22:31Just like, you shouldn't be homophobic if there's gay men that want to groom young boys. It's not about the gay. It's about assholes. It's about shitty members of society. And it's about a lot of them are people who are victims themselves. And then they perpetuated, again, later in life. It's almost like being bitten by a vampire. One of the things that happens with a lot of these molested guys. That's how you become gay, by the way. Blah! Bitten by vampire. Yeah. But a lot of these molested guys wind up doing it to other kids, which is fucking insanely evil. Like, their life got destroyed. Yeah.

23:09And then they wound up destroying other people's lives. I think it's something like 30 % become molesters. Crazy. My priest, and I don't know the backstory on this, but he blew his brains out when I was eight years old. Jesus, dude. Seven and eight was rough for you. Seven was dad coming out. And then... What did the priest do that he wanted to blow his brains out? I don't know, but I always think about it, because I'm like, were my blow jobs that bad? You know what I mean? Were they that bad? Was it cats? I don't know. He didn't touch me, because I wasn't a part of it. Catholic Methodist. Methodist.

23:44Interesting. Are they allowed to get married? Yeah, I think so. Huh. The Catholics blow their brains out. He did it at the altar. Oh my God. Yeah. In front of everybody? No. Off day. Thank God. But I remember going back in like the next day, and we just had a new guy, and he had a mustache. He looked like Ned Flanders, and I'm like, no, I can't do this in it. Did they tell everybody what happened? Yeah. Did he leave a note? Uh, give me prop, maybe. I don't know. Does anybody know, like, what was wrong? No, I googled it. It's been wiped. I can't even find the story. Oh, boy. I know. Yeah. They're good at wiping that.

24:21Well, there's a fucking, there's a horrible thing that you, people connect priest with chameleasters, because, you know, like, just like we're talking about other things, there's a group of them. Well, I wonder if bi -occupation, that they're, if it's the most. I can't say for sure, but it's certainly associated the most, like, it's not like NASCAR drivers. Imagine if that many NASCAR drivers were molesting kids, they'd shut NASCAR down into fucking heartbeat. Sure. They would go slow. But meanwhile, the Catholic Church gets tax exempt status. Right. You know, they're literally guilty of moving people who are molesters to another place where they can molest new people, instead of turning them in.

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25:00That's what a Pope Benedict got in trouble for. That's one of the reasons why he stepped down. Really? Yeah, he was responsible for moving this one guy that went on to molest 100 deaf kids. Yeah. Yeah, they, they would move these people to places where they could get away with it, instead of turning them in. And I don't know if they gave him counsel. I mean, what the fuck? The thing about that particular evil, the evil of child molesters is that he don't, it doesn't seem to be able to be fixed. Like no one, you know, if you were a guy who was like a like a wolf or wall street guy, he did a lot of crazy shit with the stock market, but then he realized, look, I fucked up.

25:44You know, I should have never done that. I was doing drugs. I fucked up. People kind of accept that you're not a thief anymore. Yeah. You can go do talk shows. You know, you can write a book. And people go, wow, that guy, they made a movie out of them. You know, Leonardo Caprio. Yeah, Leonardo Caprio played him at a fucking movie. And now he's out there. He's back. But we don't think that way about child molesters. It's the one, like if you murdered somebody like I was young, I was stupid. I hate that person. I didn't think. I murdered them. You do 25 years in jail. You come out. Maybe with think like that guys were formed.

26:19There's no feeling like that ever would go out with you. Go out and make midnight at Paris after that. Yes. You know what to do? No, I don't know if he did, you know, well, he did something. I went out with a girl who told, she goes, I feel like I'm with, hanging out with Woody Allen when I'm hanging out with you. And I was like, I don't know if that was a, what year Woody Allen? Yeah. Yeah. Any haul. You give me an existential crisis. You know, you're not even Asian. You know, I'm trying something different. Have you ever listened to his old standup? Yeah, like it. It's so pervy. Yeah, he's very pervy.

26:50Yeah. But it's, it's hilarious how openly pervy is. Yeah, yeah. And then you have to think of the time in which he was doing the standup. This is the 1960s. Yeah. So he's doing this like weird sexual, I was fucking a moose, you know, the moose had me mounted on the wall. I was, you know, well, he's talking about girls. Yeah, yeah. The way girls talk about girls. I loved girls. His voice is so, to be him, you know, you know, he really, this is really, what is voices, you know, you're a knockout show. You really are. Oh, dude. Yeah. When you're funny, though, you can be, that's your currency. He's an ugly, weird looking guy.

27:27But if you're funny, you, that's, that's what you do. Yeah. Up until the whole child molesting your accusations. Yeah. She was a bit of a batshit crazy lady. I mean, they, both of them deserve whatever happened. They both deserve it. She was adopting kids and returning them. What? Yeah. Oh, yeah. She returned them. She kind of liked this one. You know, she would get like mangled kids and all these, you know, they'd have all these disabilities and stuff. And then she would return them. Wow. Yeah. I mean, all, all the kids have come out with different stories, but, you know, well, if you're, they deserve each other.

28:06If you're fostering kids and taking care of kids, you're taking care of kids that have already experienced like some crazy shit. You know, these kids are probably already fucked up. Yeah. They're all, I'm didn't speak English. They'd bring them in from different countries, China and stuff that didn't speak English. They'd be like disabled and then Woody Allen's like, you want to go for a walk, you know, even.

28:31But his movies are so good. They're pretty good. They're not good. They're not that good. But what I love about it is a different, nobody could do that now and go, I can go, go make a movie a year. You're going, I'm going to see the Rogan movie. I'm going to see the, uh, I'm seeing the Shane Gillis. Plus movie. Did he really make one a year? Yeah. Wow. He made him real cheap. Didn't pay himself. And, uh, that will never have that again. I even remember when I was in my teens going, I'm seeing the Woody Allen movie. You didn't even care what it was. It's like a new comedian special coming out. You just go, like, there were always good, right?

29:02Like, how many does he have? Oh my God. Look how many movies he has. Absolutely. He's still making them. That one's good. Right in New York. It's good. Where does he live now? He lives in Manhattan. Still? Yeah. Yeah. Same place. Upper East Side. I wonder if he gets fucked with. Like, can he just walk around? Probably. He's dead. He's old, man. Yeah. He is old. I don't think people would recognize him. Really? Oh, come on. Not the younger generation. I think they know who he is. He never lived with me a Pharaoh. I found out. So they never lived. They never even slept over each other's house. They were never married.

29:39Oh, no kidding. Yeah. Doesn't make it less weird that he started fucking her daughter. But no. He does not. You know. He's supposed to see Newerson. She was like two. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, not good. Yeah. Yeah, that's what he looks like now. Yeah. Yeah. They'd recognize him in a heartbeat, dude. Well, she's older now. Yeah. He's 88. Wow. God damn. He's done the pandemic. I think finished him. He's 88. He finished him. Well, I mean, just life is finishing him. He's 88 years old, man. This episode is brought to you by LifeLock. Tax season is already stressful. You shouldn't have to worry about identity theft on top of everything else.

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33:29Yeah, there were people that were barely hanging on. Oh, yeah. They were riddled with anxiety. Yeah, I was one of them, but it was more because I, because I didn't get the vaccine and couldn't take part in society. That was a fun little experiment we did that we're just gonna pretend like never happened. Yeah, that was an interesting thing. Interesting little thing, yeah. Yeah. We had segregation in this country based on medicine and then we're back to pretending like it never fucking happened. Well, at least now they're having hearings on it. Yeah, nine years later. Fought she was on TV the other day going, you know, it could have come from the lab.

34:03It may have been a leak. I want to stay open -minded and unseen and they're like, yeah, okay. Like, what? Did you see all that leaked stuff coming out? Okay. Is audio? Yeah. You got to make, you make pressure people. You got to, yeah, they'll drop their ideological bullshit when they can't work. True. And show when you make their life's difficult, they'll drop their ideological bullshit. Just give them another booster. Imagine saying that about people's jobs that you're gonna force them into making a decision with their own body. And not only that, but mandate it and not only that as a doctor know that some people are allergic to some of the components, some of the actually ingredients in these facts.

34:44Sure. Aaron Rodgers is one of them. Yeah. He's allergic to one of the chemicals that's in it. Yeah. You can't take it. And some people have immune systems that work pretty well and maybe you don't need to start jabbing them with experimental stuff. I mean, yeah, it's a wild thing that happened. And so many people are still defending it because they defended it previously. They're not defending it from a position of objectivity. Like here we are, 2024. Let's look at the data. No, they're defending it from this weird place of I defended it three years ago and I've shamed people three years ago and we were right.

35:20We were right. We were right, you were wrong. We were right. It saved millions. They always say that. Save millions. Which is, by the way, there's no way to tell if that's true. There's no way to tell. The number of people that actually die from COVID is so grossly exaggerated. Most people think it's a very high number of people that died from COVID. It's less than 1%. It's like, was it 0 .3? Is it like one third of 1 %? Is that what it is? Something like that? And I don't know one part. I mean, I know people do. I know a couple of people that died from it. But it's not what I remember. I was watching CNN.

35:56I was kind of like a brainwashed woke person until the pandemic. Every day I was on CNN watching, watching that death ticker, that like the stock market. And then when I made my decision not to get the vaccine and I lost almost every friend, every job, and was called like a far right Trump supporter, I go, okay, this is, we've never done this before. What was your decision? Why did you decide not to take it? Well, I mean, I'm not getting something, first of all, it wouldn't have been made that. Trump's really good at pushing things through regulations very fast. If we had any other president, there's no way.

36:34That's what whoopspeed. You remember whoopspeed, Joe, right? Nobody can do that. I call it whoopspeed. Edison couldn't do it with lightning speed, but I did whoopspeed. I mean, they should certainly take 15 years. I made it in two days. He's bragging about how quick he did it. And I'm not gonna fucking get that. I'm young, I'm healthy. I had COVID, I had natural immunity. I was doing what everybody has done throughout history. Right, you already had COVID, which is really important. Yeah, so why risk that? And what was the, what version of COVID did you have the earliest one? I had the first, the first, the OG, the original.

37:08How bad was it for you? It was, it was like, I get the flu every year. I'm tiny, I'm a sickly person, you know? I'm allergic to fucking cigarettes. Can I, yeah, can I get one of those fucking things here? I did, why not? I quit smoking when I was 12, but... But you smoke a cigar? I started when I was 10. Oh, okay. Yeah, 10 to 21, I smoked for 11 years. Nice. So let's start now. Sorry, I would have, and... No, it's fine, it's fine. I just got down. How did I know that you had quit cigarettes? No, you wouldn't know that. Somebody, I think somebody brought it up. Well, I put up a sign when I was filming the special that, like, a no smoking sign.

37:45Pulled that down. Oh, yeah. A no smoking sign? Like a Mark's brother when I fucking... Well, I had a, when I was filming the special last week and we were live editing it. So I put up a no smoking sign in the green room because I had all these, I had all this camera crew and stuff.

38:03What do you hit this thing? The other side, the top that's flipped, the way I handed it to, turn it towards you. Turn towards you? No, no, no, the other way. You see that? That's the top. And you pulled that thing down. That's it. There you go. But you've got it backwards. You should do it the other way so you can see what you're doing. Oh, like this? Yeah, there you go. This is a car. Oh, I was good at this when I was 12. Where? Oh, yeah. I used to steal cigars. I was in, like, a skateboard gang and I was so small they'd send me under the counter and I would steal, like, thousands of dollars of cigars.

38:33Under counters? Yeah, it'd sneak under the counter of a drug store. Oh, God. Because I was so small and then I'd come out with, and we would sell them on the street. You're gang -sold stolen cigars? So stolen cigars and we grew weed in my backyard. Yeah, yeah. It was a real gang. I mean, somebody stole our weed once. We went and flipped their car over and burnt it. Wow. Yeah. Jesus. Yeah, yeah. So that's, you know, the privilege of growing up in Connecticut. It was a privilege. A part of Connecticut? A New Haven. I love the New Haven. It's called Gun Blazing. Everyone's like, oh, you're so privileged.

39:08It was a good new haven. It was a given sketchy place. Sketchy, yeah, we're gunshots every night. Every single night. I used to do the Joker's Wild Comedy Club in New Haven. You did? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Is that still around? I don't know. It's where I did my first open mic. No shit. You did your first open mic there? Wow. Yeah. Actually, no. First one was the cafeteria college. Yeah, it was in a play. I was playing George Bush. The first acting role I ever did. Stuff happens. Did you ever hear about that play? No. Stuff happens. It was in the West End in London. It was all actual quotes from George Bush and his administration, the whole thing.

39:48And it's fucking amazing. Really? Yeah. Yeah. The War and Terror, which weapons of mass destruction. All the whole, the way they, it was almost like the pandemic, the way they scared people. Weapons of mass destruction. We got to take them out. We got to do what we got to do. And we went in there. And what came of that? Yeah. Biden pulling out, leaving billions of dollars of... Ship behind, yeah. If you just compared Biden to George Bush, George Bush looks like a fucking Rhodes scholar. Yeah, that's crazy. We thought that he was an idiot. We thought, God, a camp does such an embarrassment that that guy is the president.

40:30Yeah. And now look at the two choices we have. You're like, yo. Bush would be like the, like, the wise choice. At this point, you know? Oh, yeah. Did you ever watch the clip when they're like, ask on them, but I think about Ben Lawden or something? So I think we're gonna find Ben Lawden. But first, watch his drive. I watch that every day. It was a good drive. Yeah. And it was a way of keeping people calm and like, he's so American. He just is. We're dumb. We're fucking stupid. Yeah. He's a transport to Texas, you know. They're from Maine. He was born in New Haven, you know? Wasn't really, and he denies it.

41:08Oh, he denies. The bridge that goes into New Haven is the George W. Bush bridge. And he denies. He was born in Yale, New Haven hospital. Where? Why would he lie about that? Because he wants to be Texas, you know? Red, white, and blue. I believe it. Yeah, but everybody knows that from Kenna Bunkport, Maine. Born in New Haven. Really? Oh, yeah. Interesting. They're like, fuck you. We're naming the bridge after it. Is it American? Hey, baby. New Haven. Yeah, New Haven, Connecticut. So at one point in time, he was hiding this. Is that what it is? Isn't that funny? He's younger than both fucking Trump and Biden.

41:39Ha, ha, ha. He's, Jesus Christ. He hasn't been the president in like 20 fucking years. That's so crazy. He's younger than both of them. That's so nuts. Look at that. That is so nuts. That's so nuts. I would vote for him for a third term. Oh, 100%. In a second. Come on back, George. Yeah. We need a laugh, buddy. And bring that Darth Vader, a fucking fake heart motherfucker with you. Yeah, Dick Cheney. Yeah. Is he stuck in his life? Yeah, he's literally in the Bible. He had no pulse at one point in time, no pulse because he had an artificial heart put in while they were waiting to put a replacement heart in an artificial pump put in.

42:19So this pump continually circulated blood. It didn't have a pulse. So he had no pulse. Tell me that's not in the Bible. Isn't that in the Bible? I don't know. I don't know what. Maybe you heard my priest blew his brains out when I was eight. I kind of stopped reading. But I mean, if you're going to have like a demon incarnate, like I probably have no pulse, you know? Jesus. I mean, watching Biden, like when he's freezes up now. Oh, yes. You think he's gone, man? Well, he's going to go. But it's also he's freezing up, medicated to the tits, like whatever they're doing to keep him alive. Ivy, vitamin transfusions and fucking hormones and phatomines, whatever they're doing.

43:01I don't know what they're doing. Neutropics, I don't know what they're doing. He could be the first president to be assassinated by time. Yeah. I mean, I just, he's not going to make it. I just can't believe they're running him. It doesn't even make sense. The more he flails about in these speeches, the more he fucks up, and more it's almost like he feels like he doesn't want to do it. So he's trying to get out of it. How did I say this didn't happen? This did not happen. White House denies claims Biden froze at fundraiser event. They're calling them cheap fakes now. But wait a minute. There's a video of the show where, look, I don't think that's a big deal.

43:36The thing's over, he gets led off the stage. Like, who cares? That's nothing. Some of the other stuff, like, what was that one where he was like yelling at people? Like, completely... Yeah. Just yelling at him with a big smile on his face. He always does that. Yeah, but this was a wild one. That's just him walking off with Joe Biden with Obama. Like, who cares? That doesn't... I think it was the like, he gave him a little pinch on the arm like you do to your grandma. Oh, he's looking at the crowd. Let's go. He's just looking out at the crowd, which is odd to the little frozen though. Yeah, he's frozen.

44:08Yeah, but whatever. That's the least of the things that I've gone wrong. The thing of... Have you seen the video of him yelling, Jamie? There's this crazy video. He's like... Like, he's not saying it. Someone says something to him and he yells something back, but it's literally no words. And then he has a big smile on his face. He yells and then he does that whisper. He's like, we're forever sure he's tired. Yeah, sure. I wrote the bill there. It's hard to believe it's real. It's almost like we're being punked by China. Yeah, they're punctuously doing that. They're definitely doing that. But...

44:46The COVID was a bit of a punk. A little bit. A little... Yeah. Minor worldwide punk. That we funded. That we want to go? Yeah, our tax dollars. How about reparations for everybody who got fired for not getting the COVID vaccine? I think everyone should get a fat check. $100 ,000. That's not a bad idea. It's not even enough. How many people lost their fucking jobs? Dude, people are lost their jobs. It's destroyed people. This isn't it. Well, we hear this though. We hear what this one is. Donald Trump, when he was commander in chief, refused to visit a cemetery, US cemetery outside of Paris. For fall in American soldiers.

45:26And he referred to those heroes, and I quote, as suckers and losers. He actually said that. Oh. He said that. How dare he say that. How dare he talk about my son and all of us, just like that. What? How dare you? Sweet old man, though. Yeah. Is that how his son died? Why is he saying his son? His son, the death of his son changes by the day. It's like. Yeah, but what is he saying there? Is he saying his son died as a military person? Yeah, I don't think he died in war. He mixes it up. Let's say how he died. He died from cancer. Biden had radiation in chemotherapy treatments. Cancer remains stable.

46:11May 22, 2015 has been at the Walter Reed National Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland, because of recurrence of brain cancer. He died there 10 days later. Okay. What is, what does that have to do? What is he saying? How dare they talk about my son? He'll link everything to his son. Oh, no, no, no. Exposure to military burn pits in Iraq. Okay, that makes sense. Okay. Oh, so what did he do? According to his father, Bo was diagnosed with, say that word.

46:49Ankle low, ankle, ankle, ankylosing spawn, delitis, delitis. Ankylosing spawn, spawn, delitis. After returning from service in Kosovo, he was later diagnosed with brain cancer. His father believes as a possible, possibly consequence of exposure to military burn pits. Well, those burn pits 100 % fuck people up. That's so crazy. They did that too. They had soldiers over there and they had all this waste and they just burned it all and Then so the wind would just blow it right into the camp so these soldiers are just breathing in toxic chemical waste Yeah X yeah, what the fuck man? What was the sun doing?

47:35Where some was in Kosovo was the sun serving? Think I think so Is that what happened?

47:45It's my amazing how Trump oh, he he looks like he looks so young and energized compared to Biden now Yeah, but it's just compared just compare to it. He was in Kosovo after 1998 1999 Kosovo war working on behalf of the OSCE to train judges and prosecutors for the local judicial system 2004 became a partner in law firm of bit to Farato Gen to Lodi Biden and Baylick where he worked for two years before being elected attorney general of Delaware He was nominated John one Joe Biden was nominated for vice president Bo introduced him many delegates webbed at his speech which were crowned the auto accent that killed his mother and sister and the subsequent commitment his father made to his sons So his active duty Deployed to Iraq sent to Fort Bliss for pre -deployment training this day I've just father participated 2008 presidential campaigns only vice presidential debate father was on record saying I don't want him going, but I'll tell you what I don't want my grandson or my granddaughter is going back in 15 years So I can't see it all Jamie.

48:56It's cut off Oh, so how we leave makes a big difference whoa that didn't age well So how we leave makes a big difference name to think about what they did in Afghanistan Hey, man, fuck that job Fuck fuck that job you you literally have to be a crazy person to want that job Like you imagine wanting the stress of being either the vice president or the president I'm Brian Reagan as a joke about being president every morning you wake up someone's like problems Sir lots and lots of problems Any of those jobs is not one day where everything's like fucking yeah Do you think they should have an age cap on the politicians?

49:35Well, they got a minimal right 35 to run If you want to be a fireman You have to show that you're physically competent. Yeah, you have to complete a physical fitness course sure You have to you know because you might be able to have to do things if you are a president I think you should have to commit a mental fitness course Like they should have to test you with puzzles. They should have to ask you. Yeah Legitimately like it sounds stupid, but that's a good way to find out whether someone's brain works well sure Test people with puzzles and quizzes and ask some questions about history and they shouldn't be able to prepare for it I think it should be something that you just you just announce today's the day We're gonna pull them into this room and we're gonna Film it all and ask him a bunch of questions about all kinds of things and then let's find out how that guy How is brain works?

50:26I mean, I think Mitch McConnell had two strokes and a very short amount of time he locks up whatever that is I don't think it's a stroke, but it's He definitely locks up like windows 95. Yeah, yeah, it's not good. It's not good. And he's not stepping down Yeah, these people are so old They're so old and they shouldn't be doing anything They certainly shouldn't be running the world for future generations that they are absolutely not gonna witness Mitch McConnell is actually stepping down. Oh, he will step down when did he decide? Not too long ago. It was just a couple of months ago. They said oh, okay Finally, yeah, 82, but he should have stepped down fucking immediately He sounds like mr.

51:07McGill and Jimmy store I mean, you're gg ping or whatever watching these politicians just having a good chuckle I think they that gg ping knows those politicians don't really run jack shit It's the you know what trump likes to go the deep state The deep state real. It's real because there's a bunch of people that run the government from who are they though? Well, there's a lot of money. There's heads of immense corporations that have incredible financial control and Influence on politicians. This is the reason why lobbyists are some of the richest fucking people in the country Like some of the richest real estate is in Virginia right inside a DC and it's a lot of its lobbyists The amount of money that they pour into campaigns and pouring to making sure that their agendas are being met and that their businesses get to grow because of regulations or lack of regulations or tariffs or lack of tariffs or whatever the fuck they're trying to do That's that's who runs things really and makes decisions and then the politicians keep us embattled in these social squabbles You know, it's like when they have when Kamala Harris had this guy in a dress with a beard come to the White House recently She's like oh my god for pride month.

52:25Come on in you're in the White House like that is To accentuate this the social squabbling. It's so people get fired up Yay, queers in the White House and then other people go what the fuck are queers doing in the White House It's like that it is a this is a part of the grand plan to keep people not paying attention to the really important issues And to just constantly that's like these These fucking Beach balls so they throw up at a concert. They constantly get thrown up. There's working gay marriage. They're gonna take away gay marriage now They're gonna take away abortion. They're gonna take away this Guns the border and they just keeps throwing these things in the air.

53:10So you're just like looking left from right and look and left and right and while this is going on There's all sorts of laws being passed that allow them to look at any computer any laptop any any phone You're gonna be able to bypass encryption with AI. I was just watching a video where a security expert was talking about that He was talking about What's that guy's name Rob Braxman? He was talking about um how AI In your operating system like once they get AI in your operating system all this stuff like signal and WhatsApp Encrypted end to end encrypted devices. That's nonsense. It's not gonna work anymore.

53:50It's not gonna do anything They're they're gonna be able to get your information before it's encrypted as you're typing it before you send it Everything is going to be transparent. They'll have access to anything they want anything you have on any device It doesn't matter what kind of encryption and we're kind of bullshit you're using All that's hot the window and he was explaining that Fuck what about Elon's neural link chip is that do you think people are gonna have those yeah And they can just go open up, you know, they don't have to say it that you just think it open up Google, you know That's gonna happen.

54:25There's gonna be versions of that and it's gonna get but we had um, what's no one's last name Say it again. Arbok. Arbok. You say the right way. Arbok or ball. Arbok. Arbok Um, he's the first neural link patient. We had him in uh the other day and uh, I think the episode comes at today Yeah, it's out now and yeah, he's the first guy. Oh my god. Does he sound like Elon? He's like you know, so it's working pretty well Very very smart Very smart Very interesting person to talk to completely paralyzed woman neck down Except for a few movements in his hands and like he can kind of move a little bit his spinal cord's not totally severed But it's very badly damaged from a fuck an accident in the river and now with this neural link He can play video games.

55:13He can do all kinds of shit And he said the cursor goes where his His eyes go the cursor goes like exactly where he wants it to go So he's like I have a built -in aim bot if I'm playing video games because I could just I don't miss He's like come back and look right at him. Yeah, I could shoot at things Which is pretty wild and it makes you think like okay, well for soldiers. That's a must. Yeah, you have to give him that You know and that's You know some of the fighter jets The new helmets that they have on now are augmented reality helmets and When they're flying the jets as they're looking at a specific spot.

55:51That's where the crosshairs go So the the crosshairs are connected to this We're gonna be doing that with jokes like you just like hit the punch line I think comedy's probably gonna be one of the last places where the actual human experience exists in a pure form You know It's one of a several reasons why at the mothership we make people put their phones in the back Like get that out of your head. Yeah, stop looking at that Just sit down and watch a huge difference. It's a giant difference But if we could still have things like that it'll remind us of what it's like to be a human You know, it's like the movies have kind of gone away.

56:32Go into the movie theater. I stopped Well, I stopped during the pandemic because you couldn't go and then I was like oh, this is way better if you have a nice TV at home and no one's gonna interrupt and You know, there's something about that kind of taking a girl on a date But oh, yeah, I remember I went everybody had to be six feet apart and you know, it's two people in each row and that's all made up When they found a six oh, he's like It was out there. I didn't I didn't make up the rules. It was out there from this flu when we didn't even have fucking electricity back then Well, it's there's no it doesn't make sense.

57:06It's in the air. It's a respiratory virus They've never ever in the history of human beings been able to contain a respiratory virus. You can't do it If a respiratory virus gets out to a certain number of people and it starts spreading through certain pub It's just gonna and it also has Animal reservoirs. So one of the things to find it actually can exist in certain animals in fact in deer They tested a bunch of white tail deer just wild deer and a bunch of them tested positive for COVID -19 I want to look back at this that six there's still six feet stand six feet apart at the airport It's so fucking stupid It's so stupid, but it was all a thing where people looked for something to make them feel better, right?

57:52So even though masks didn't work Even though six foot distancing didn't work If you were out in public and you knew that COVID was a thing and there wasn't Some sort of fake measure that made you at least feel safe Like you have to stand a little bit apart from each other you have to wear the mask We're gonna be okay if we follow these rules We took the vaccine we're standing six feet away. We're wearing a mask And so all those things even though none of those things kept you from getting COVID zero of those things kept you from getting COVID In fact, there's more evidence now that the more of those shots you take the more you get COVID There's a bunch of different reasons for that, but I'm not a virologist or biologist, but All those things at least kept people thinking that they were doing the right thing and that maybe they're gonna be safe Instead of just a freak out of a bunch of people with no masks and a wild disease That we've been told is gonna kill everybody.

58:46I saw the clip of him saying you know mask through they'll make you feel better And so I thought okay That makes sense nobody said in that clip. Yeah, it's not gonna help it's not gonna help and then where one then you People start wearing two. Yeah, he was wearing two. Yeah, you gotta wear two then we're a face shield and put a fucking diaper over your Filkin head the where two is just like the woke shit in San Francisco It never stops it would go to where a beekeeper's outfit it would go further. Yeah, if they let it stay on I wear two masks now. I feel more protected. Yeah, wrap yourself in plastic and just stay underwater It's amazing how that guy can gaslight It's amazing.

59:26He does it and he's his hands fidget and the most I'll be his body language. Oh, he's fucking I love watching him when he's in Congress when they're when they're you know interrogating him. It's a political theater Ron It's all misinformation and disinformation. Yeah, oh he's well prepared to gaslight But how can people still watch him and go yeah, you know, we did the right thing even in that Audio that you were talking about. Yeah, you said would you make people's lives difficult? Yeah, they will drop their ideological bullshit and get vaccinated fucking worked He said in when they were When they were quizzing him on this when they were asking him about this and confronting him with this He said that's not what I meant Yeah, he's a sick.

1:00:13He's a sick man. Why could you possibly have meant other than what you said He if you were that guy. Yeah, this is not like a thought experiment. You're hanging out with buddies You're like imagine if you were a guy You would tell people no, that's not what that was that was you the head of the NIH You the head of our America's Coronavirus Task Force you're the big guy. You're the one America looks to for the answers and you're saying that Yeah, shame him and it but God did that work man That was what I when I learned from that was how hard it is to stand up for something you believe in God damn To go I'm gonna do this and that I'm gonna you start to see your friends disappear your family I mean, I wasn't allowed for home for Christmas.

1:01:00Yeah, I had to sit outside on a porch with half my family outside wearing masks on And I'm standing on the other side. It's 38 degrees out Wow, and I'm going what am I like like the first AIDS patient here? How they respond to that now they apologize No, that's it. Well, no, she's everything's just backed. We're just back. We're back open You know, it's um, but that's do you think that's just human nature like yeah people are cowards people are cowards and there's like a mass Psychosis that happens or like everybody to collectively panicked in the face of this fear that we'd never experienced before Like a global pandemic in our lifetime and then People fell apart like that's what happens to people when they get pressured There's a lot of people out there that have never really experienced actual pressure in their life So when something scary like a virus comes into their life They fold up like a house of cards.

1:02:00They just can't take it They don't know what the fuck to do and they don't have any personal sovereignty So they don't have the ability to go Wait, what what is everyone saying? That doesn't make any sense. Why am I going to do that? What are the consequences? How much do we know about pharmaceutical drug companies? Have they ever lied before? Oh, they have have they ever been fine. Oh the most fines in medical history Okay, what are these studies like how long did they take to do these studies like it's a hundred percent effective What does that mean? How do they define a hundred percent effective?

1:02:31Is that mean if you take it you definitely won't get Covid because that's what I thought it meant Do you know what it meant in a hundred percent effective in stopping death? In the vaccine that Robert Kennedy explains this to me Um, this is his words not mine, but if he's right It's the craziest fucking thing I've ever heard in my life. I think he's right In the placebo group I'm gonna do it while you talk if you don't mind don't do that In the placebo group two people died from Covid in the vaccine group one person Two is a hundred percent more than one. So it's one hundred percent effective

1:03:11Imagine yeah, imagine that kind of math that's that's Fauci kind of nobody really knew nobody knew It's like a hundred percent effective. So you get people like Rachel Maddo on TV telling you that the virus stops with you You can't get infected can't transmit and then they never even they had to admit later in European court They never even tested it for transmission. It was never tested for transmission. Who who hears that ends gonna go Well, I fuck it so no everyone's like yeah, yeah, I get I get to be the hero I get to get the shot. Yeah, and I get to end it I end that's for people who are on your phone in Instagram.

1:03:46Yeah, I got vaccine today Fucking fine, but don't shame the people who just made the decision That it's not for me. I never said one negative thing about the vaccine or who got it And goddamn dude even in the in the stand -up scene. I was a far -right Queue -in -on all the fucking things. Yeah horse medicine got you know, you know, it's like listen man. I got it on CNN I know it more than anybody knows it Chris Cuoma would not did you see the Dave Smith dude Dave Smith Lid him on fire god. He lit him on fire on his corpse that piece of shit That that clip actually I made I did an impression of you doing an impression of Don Lemon Dude wait, you know, don't get the vaccine.

1:04:30Can't get a work. Yeah, don't get the vaccine You can't take a poop. Don't get the vaccine Unbelievable that that is on national television and that clip lives on and they get to just get away with it Not only that him and Chris Cuoma when he's talking about people injecting veterinary medicine and then Chris Cuoma was saying I've remecting a dewormer Like the stupidity in which they were describing on Cable television like first of all you're not injecting anything you fucking idiot You're taking a small pill that's one of the safest drug profiles of any drug in recorded history That's been prescribed to human beings billions of times And the fact that they had the balls to go on TV and frame it that way And then Chris Cuoma with with Dave Smith saying like this is what we were being told that they were taking like you don't have Google Like you just go out and CNN you spit out what they're telling you like you didn't look at it at all Even at the same token even if you wanted to go experiment with an actual Why don't you get to do that?

1:05:35So you everybody has to take this experimental fucking rushed vaccine that Trump pushed the regulations Yeah, but you're missing the point the point is I was already better That's the dumbest part about sure the dumbest part about the let him experiment let him not experiment That's not the point the point was I got better really quick, which is hooray Yeah, but they didn't want that so that's when the machine moved and you know They went with this horse dewormer narrative because they were worried that other people were going to start taking ivermectin I took a bunch of things and I talked about all I didn't say ivermectin by itself I said i v vitamins monoclotal out of anybody z packs I said I literally gave the list of different things there was um Some corduster what is that stuff called There was some sort of a steroid that I took to What was your better like in two days or something right quick holy shit like quick like it was gone 56 god damn I was I was working I did 10 rounds on the bag six days later I'm like let's see what's going on because the only way to really see what's going on see if I have endurance yeah I did 10 rounds on the bag.

1:06:42I was nothing I have five days in I did a workout and I was I tried it I was like I feel pretty good. I don't want to like relapse because I kept hearing that people would work out too quick and they'd relapse So I said let me just go through like a decent workout and see how I feel if I feel at all drained or tired I'm pretty in tune which is you know How I knew something was wrong in the first place. I'm pretty tuned in to my body and then the next day I said all right Let's fucking push it. Let's see what's up and I pushed it and I felt 100 % I was 100 % six days later And I think I was on 100 % five days later.

1:07:17I just didn't try So that was bad for the narrative because the narrative was this thing was super dangerous You know you need to take a vaccine. This is the only way through it and my doctor was saying no No, it's not as dangerous as they're saying especially someone like you who works out every day and takes vitamins every day And always eats healthy. This is not the thing that's going to get you He's like with the people that are dying what I'm seeing is people with comorbidities. He was explaining everything to me And he recommended a series of nutrients to take to prepare yourself to like To pump up your immune system and he's like but there's a bunch of things that you can take if you do get infected That will help you recover and that's what it took and it worked Yeah, thank you.

1:08:04How many people could have Perhaps yeah, they didn't want that in order to have the emergency use authorization so that they could Make sure that everybody gets vaccinated. They had to have no other treatments That's why they demonized Ivermectin. That's why they demonized hydroxychloroquine That's why they they kept a lot of people from getting monoclonal antibodies They didn't want any solution other than the one that was going to make them insane amounts of money And that's they pushed for and we went through that Yeah, and the thing is like are did we learn that's the question did we learn?

1:08:33I don't think so. I don't know. I don't know. I think a lot of people learned a lot of people and I think and I think but a lot of people learned I learned but I almost didn't survive it to go through that and I had no I had no bank account I had no money the the money I was getting was from comedy club cash And I had just gotten to the clubs in New York City and I decided I'm not I'm not going here's my papers to get in right not doing it Not doing it. I fucking performed outside during those shows. I was performing for free outside Outside of comedy clubs and then once the vaccine I said we need your papers and I just said I can't do it.

1:09:09I said okay. Take care Wow and and did you go from that to not doing stand -up how many how many months did you not do stand -up? Well, I started just doing videos in my living room. I lost my fucking mind That's the thing is I and when I tore a lot of my fans, you know Went through a similar thing and so when I meet them after it's it's It's it's painful Because everybody tells me this story. I'm a firefighter. I lost my job. I'm a nurse. I lost my job I lost my family. I was isolated my my just met a guy his daughter killed herself because she couldn't Practice her sports. She was locked in her bedroom It's like the fucking damage that was done And to be able to stay steady during that and go all right.

1:09:54I'm gonna go through this without any friends And being labeled this far right crazy person for just saying no thanks to the shot Yeah, it you can't believe you know what that does to you And so I just feel I feel so I feel so much for these people that did it and who's who stuck up to it Yeah, I do too and I also feel for the people that got suckered into taking it and now they have like serious consequences Serious health problems, you know, I was ready to get vaccinated the UFC had allocated a bunch of vaccines for their employees This is because they were doing shows during the pandemic We did shows in the height of the pandemic with no crowds So the UFC has this place called the apex center and the apex center is a small arena that the UFC built And they built it to do like the day and why Tuesday night contender series and a bunch of different other fights that they filmed there And so we went there And they said we've got the vaccine so you can get vaccinated We we saved one for if you want to get it.

1:10:56I said okay great a lot of the UFC employees get it was the Johnson and Johnson vaccine And so I called up the doctor. Hey, uh, can I get it today? It was like the day of the fight. He said I can't do it today You got to you have to come to the clinic. Can you come on Monday? And I said I can't come on Monday I got to go back Sunday. I said, but I'll be back in two weeks for the next fights. We'll do it then In the time that I left the the vaccine got pulled for blood clots And I knew two people that had strokes One guy that I met and another guy who's a friend of a guy that I met and they they told me that they had strokes like within five days Again vaccinated and I was like wait what and then They were saying I was reading the news story about it.

1:11:39They're polly. They're pulling it because of blood clots Yeah, remember that these guys that got headstrong and I'm like holy shit and I think I talked to the you say I go, Hey man, I don't want to take that and you know they one of the guys that I talked to There was like I agree with it like you know, I took it. I don't know. I think I'm but I feel okay, but I know a guy. I know a guy. Everybody knew a guy. They got fucked up. Everybody knew somebody who got fucked up by it But it was like all of a sudden The genie had come out of the bottle because before that I was all in I was I was not in any way shape or form anti -vax And but it doesn't make the anti -vax for not wanting to get one point is in fact.

1:12:17I was at a I was having a conversation with One of the scientists that I talked to about this and I was like maybe this would be good to get people that are these crazy people that are Anti -vaccine to like wake up and recognize the importance of these things. So this was my mindset back then and so When that happened I had decided like I'm not taking a chance with this thing like this is too weird And then I knew another guy who had some sort of a heart problem from the Moderna one allegedly And then it just got it just started getting weirder and weirder and then When a couple of my friends got COVID one of the things that happened is my whole family got COVID And I was like well, I I should probably just get it And I was like if I get I was getting tested every day because we were doing the podcast Yeah, so the way we would do the podcast to keep everybody safe is all the employees got tested security got tested I got tested everybody got tested and a couple of times we had to cancel shows Because someone someone test positive and then we all everybody had to keep getting tested We were very diligent about it But my whole family got it my kids got it and they were fine like they skated through it like one day two days They felt great like this was early early days like no vaccine no one knew what the fuck the treat was My wife got it she took Ivermectin because they were actually prescribing it back then and her doctor prescribed it Back then this is the early early days.

1:13:41Yeah, I didn't get it But I did feel not good But I was in the house man I hugged the kids and they were like you're gonna get it. I'm not gonna get it I was like it was a we were joking around because like they weren't even that sick and my my wife got it worse to them for sure But I didn't get it and I kept working out. I was working out and I remember one day I worked out and I didn't feel good I was like man, I feel fucking weak And I was like I'm just gonna do I'm like Use like lighter weights and just go through Like three series of this routine that I do just light and easy Don't push it.

1:14:18Just just get the blood flowing a little bit And then the next day I went back to the gym and I did the same thing. I started working I was like yeah, I don't fucking feel that good like it still feel a little off like let's just do the same thing Nice and light just go through the motions not pushing anything And then the next day I went in and I felt fucking great. I'm like okay. It's gone. Whatever it was gone damn I tested every day never tested positive for it But my body clearly was fighting something like there's something going on And I because I'm so in tune with it I recognize that I didn't push I do have some friends though that are meat heads and they also felt that same thing And they were doing jujitsu and they just kept training really hard and they got real sick Because if you get sick while you're broken down from training Like if you have a really hard really hard workout is The whole thing is it makes your body stronger because it breaks you down And then your body has to build back up again.

1:15:14I gotta have strong help help help build a body here We can if you can help me jump a son's been working out We can have you come in there. I do laps in my hot tub, man. That's as much as I do I don't need much Well, you should do a little something. You don't have to do anything rigorous You actually I heard you say once do 100 push -ups a day and it'll change your life and it fucking did Just I couldn't do you know I did 15 now I could do 100 no problem Yeah, in my whole everything. It's like you gotta be able to you gotta do what you're willing to do We gotta have some activity Yeah, your body needs activity You know what you your body the so the my point is If you break yourself down from really hard workouts, you will get fucking sick sick Like the sickest I've ever been is when I got sick because I was working out really hard Because when that happens then it hits you and you just fucking get wrecked And I knew a bunch of people that did that But just gotta be smart.

1:16:12Yeah, and so like a lot of tough guys are not smart Because they're just too tough or too tough and they make these decisions like I'll just fucking power through Our ape brain our man cave brain, you know It takes over it does, but that's also what makes you successful That's stupid part of your brain that could just power through things That's what makes you get up in the morning. That's it gives you discipline Yeah, yeah, but that also can fuck you up. You can fuck you up Yeah, it can fuck you have to know you have to be the general of the army Yeah, you have to understand what's going on You can't always just be the soldier Sometimes you have to be strategic about like no, no, no hold Is not the time to attack.

1:16:52Well, you need people you you really trust who can tell you I mean I the weekend that I've just filmed I've stayed up for three days straight to finish editing it So I've never done that and I remember doing it going this is I don't know if this is really stupid or really smart But Biden can die any day and half of your set is about Biden The wind could take him out man And so I just did three days You know a couple hours of sleep. It's hilarious. It's like a race to see if I was supposed to film in and um End of August in Chicago and I go no if he dies. This is useless This three years of honing these fucking jokes in And um, that's a crazy mindset.

1:17:35I gotta get it out before the president dies. I got to beat his funeral Oh my god. Do you think you do you think that they're gonna put in Gavin Newsom? Oh, that's what I think god. I keep thinking it like every day. I'm waiting Waiting for the big announcement in the news. He is so repulsive man. He's repulsive, but he knows how to talk That's all that and he's attractive. God damn it. He's got that nice hair hot privilege. Yeah, he's a he's a smooth gas lighter And uh, he's got that serial killer face though. Super good at running estate into the ground I he talks like he's wrapping you know, you like yeah, we're gonna shut down.

1:18:10Yeah, well it scares me It's very practiced. He's a he's a performer, you know But that's what half this country wants. They want someone who's just gonna make him feel good enough to go to work every day Sure, well as as their rights get eroded. Yeah, slowly but surely come on Harris That would be interesting even a half her for one day as president brother. They've been hiding that lady that would be interesting. No No, no, no That's what rest is gonna attack. You know, I got kicked out of a comedy clip for doing an impression of her No, yeah, but they said it it's no longer okay for a straight white guy to do an impression of a retarded hyena Wow, yeah, what was the club?

1:18:50Uh, it was like I make shift thing during covid Hmm it was this outdoor thing and I got thrown out they go your racist I was like making fun of her and I got thrown to the curb Wow, because I couldn't do the club. So I was unvaccinated. I hate saying unvaccinated. That makes it sound like the vaccine It's like being I'm I didn't get circumcised. I don't like being called uncircumcised. Right. Yeah, so you can't un -something that just is right And then the chop the chop dick. Yeah, yeah, I hate that. It is weird. Be careful with the way we phrase you're unvaxed It's like go fuck it. I'm just a human with blood regular blood And you got Fauci juice trump Fauci juice Float around your body warp speed juice inside of your son warp speed And so did the the joke go over well?

1:19:37Did it get a good laugh? I was just kind of talking about race and stuff and Your racist and slow the manager came and Physically threw me to the curb and I just remember what the what is going on when I started comedy You know, I started around the time of like samurai and mark normand and I started two years after them And we were still doing open mics you'd see mark normand on the tonight show and then back at the club Hey, comedy. All right. You're gay. I'm fat braze. I lie Yeah And we would say this crazy a shit and it made you good and then suddenly it was like you can't say this you can't say that You can't say that yeah, and it's all made up It's all made up it all happened during the Obama administration It was a wave of it and like Dave Smith has tracked it.

1:20:25It's really interesting really describe it Yeah, he describes like when the phrase is all the different catch That all of it's around 2012 that's like this just this big ramp up of all these things racism all these I did transphobia All this big ramp up of all these issues happened around 2012 I don't I'm I'm transphobic, but that just means because I'm I'm afraid of them Joe, I'm going out with two by accident. Yeah, yeah, I used to do online dating and you show you know that they would they would have good angles The surgery's getting good too. And if they're Asian Game over. Oh game over So I was on a date with the it was a is a black woman.

1:21:08It turned out to be a man And I had a complete mental breakdown. I ran in the bathroom. I called my friend. I got I'm out with a dude And he wants to fuck me. He wants to take me home. Yeah. Yeah, that happened twice So did they explain to you that they have a dick? No, no If you're dealing with someone who has a man I'm not saying all people that I don't even think trans is it's all fucking just makes you have a seizure But but no, they don't a lot of them don't tell you Well, it's a lot of them Feel like you don't have to tell I was actually watching a podcast where Comic was arguing that you shouldn't have to tell someone That your trans if you're dating them you'd if you're having sex with them Hmm, well, you got to find out a comic was arguing that when they're fucking vagina and they were doing it in just this woke Compliant way.

1:22:03It wasn't like they had a well thought out point It was just like yeah, why should you have to tell people like what the fuck are you talking about? What are you talking about you should tell people if you have bad credit You're gonna get involved in a romantic relationship with someone and you you owe the government $100 ,000 in taxes You should have to fucking tell people that like I might be in trouble. I might have to run to Costa Rica Yeah, you should have to tell people a lot of things Yeah, well, it's all that that's the new way It's it's just this compliance for all this new shit that didn't exist a couple of years ago Well, that's the thing is that they want to say that trans women are women.

1:22:40So watch their tell you I think it's transphobic to call somebody trans Because if they're an actual woman, they're just a woman So why you calling them trans? You can't transition if you were born a woman and you feel like a woman You really want to support people like this Trans shouldn't be on the fucking table. That's a woman with a dick though With the dick. Yeah, so that's how you say trans woman the woman with the dick so let everybody know just say woman with a dick A dick person. Yeah A dick holding person dick holding person for now. They might decide to get rid of the dick. Oh, man Which I wonder what that's that's the thing.

1:23:17I wonder if I've ever even know Yeah Yeah, they should show the surgery you want kids to get involved They should show the surgery of taking your forearm skin and building a penis Well, it's hard enough having god -given penis imagine one built by a bunch of like arteries and that one scary But that one doesn't take away your vagina That's the scary one is the penis to a vagina or they take it off They fold it in really and make an opening in your body and then you have to keep it Dialated all the times they have to shove something up there to make sure it doesn't close up like a fucking ear piercing Yo, man, yo One day they're going to be able to do gene therapy and they're going to be able to literally transform someone into a woman That's not that's not off the table.

1:24:10They're going to be able to do that And you know some animals can do that. That's one of the funniest things that Alex Jones got called out for the turn of the frogs gay But that's a real thing atrazine. It's uh, it's pesticide or herbicide It they they got it in with these frogs and Half of the frogs change their gender Like here it is Atrazine is a herbicide and endocrine disruptor that can harm the sexual development of frogs by altering their hormone cycles Exposure to atrazine concentrations as low as 0 .1 parts or billion can cause gonadal malformations including hermaphrodites and males with multiple testes Atrazine can also chemically castrate male frogs turning them into females or demasculizing them I mean, that's kind of happening anyways in the New York City But they're doing it to men you see so I walk around and you see these couples where the female looks like the guy and the the man looks More feminine men are just being a masculated if they allow it if they look but but a lot of them a lot of them allow it It's I I was one of those guys because when when the whole with the when the options are all of these women And this is the options.

1:25:30I mean women create the sexual marketplace and men kind of dictate their behavior Imagine if you and I were left to our own devices with no kind of woman to kind of keep you in check So men have been adapting that's what Vikings came from yeah, that's where pirates came from Yeah, you leave men alone and not have a bunch of women around going hey slow the fuck down slow down then you have battle axes It's full of savages storming villages. Yeah, the capital. Yeah, and so that's the over correction That's the the over correction as you get these like incredibly feminized men and one of the ways that happens is jobs Right, so you have a job and you are in this social structure for eight hours a day That is very unnatural and weird and most Companies have DEI scores and most companies have all these different requirements and they're openly allowed to discriminate Against especially heterosexual white men.

1:26:30I'm a nodal wonder two things about that. Yeah, there was a a thing that Elon tweeted I think today or yesterday he in response to one of these things at Disney where One of the guys at Disney like openly said I would never hire a straight white man Like I have that on tape. You know, I've lost it. Well, that's why I'm bringing yeah, yeah, I mean So you and I talked about it in the green room and tell your story like tell what happened and how this all this Yeah, yeah, it's quite it's quite a long story I mean it I started and when I started comedy and started I've been doing it 20 years So I've been I've been on TV TV shows guest stars co stars.

1:27:16You never really heard You know, that's too many white guys or you know, it's getting a little too white and then I remember like At comedy clubs, you just start to hear people say you know, there's too many white guys too many fucking white guys And then it it became um it became quite popular to just start to Say there's too many of you guys So what do you do we got to get rid of them? You know, um the first time it happened to me I was invited to do a podcast. So woman she was a lesbian she wanted me to come on and tell the story of being raised by gay men She goes I think this will be good the bridge are two fanbases so people can hear it from a straight guy's point of view of what it's like to kind of grow up And around you know, I grew up in gay bars and piano bars and drag shows and I'm kind of the long -term study for what it does to you It fucks you up You know, I started to think maybe I'm gay maybe um, you know, I tried to in college actually I was going home to visit my family.

1:28:20I tried kissing a guy just because I felt like I needed to fit in This shit really it really how that go? Oh, he's like get the fuck away from me I remember I was in the car and just going like Fuck maybe I'm gay my dad's gay. I got a gay brother one of my dad's brothers gay. I think my grandfather It's you know, it's genetic. Yeah, it's sure and I just I lean it because get the fuck away from me Because I just wanted to fit in I wanted something to talk about it Thanksgiving dinner. Right. I wanted to be the gate You know, yeah, it's so um peer pressure peer pressure this this girl invited me on to talk about this and she was a friend She texts me and she goes I think this was after the George Floyd thing maybe and she goes um I can't have a straight white guy on anymore and I remember just going like what the fuck You can't have me on just cuz I my skin color what changed It was the during the BLM stuff that stuff really ramped up It became kind of I think celebratory to go fuck white people fucking white women white, you know Um, right I think it became normalized a little way to know any amount is too much, but it became celebrated in a way And so that happened and then it happened another podcast and then I was uh, I had an acting agent who uh Whenever whenever I would do stand I used to host Mark Norman show hot soup and all the agents would come and Every eight, you know every couple months.

1:29:47I'm gonna go. Why aren't you on SNL? We got to get you and Holly Why don't you and I'd go well sure what sign me get sent you need auditions And so this guy saw him and he brought me in it was the biggest agency at the time Abrams it was called and um I'm waiting around going. What's going on? No auditions? Is SNL coming out to check me out and he any emails and he goes Too tough out there for white guys He kind of was like we're done here the next day fires me removes me right when I'm on the next day It was soon after removed me from the roster. I got an email Some more time went by and then another manager scouted me brought me in it's called AGI entertainment, I think and um He goes dude, but you're you're a killer.

1:30:33He goes you got an acting resume He goes we're gonna get you on curb your enthusiasm You know and I was like okay, maybe this is finally somebody who's got the balls to to fight this shit months go by he calls me and he goes um We hit a snag he said We we don't we can't have any more white guys or we're not hiring white guys We're not representing white guys and I and I just was like what the fuck is going on? How could you say that? And I go is it company policy and he goes Yeah So halfway through the conversation I take my phone out because this happened so many times I was literally I was losing my fucking mind my therapist goes dude you got to start recording this You have to record this stuff because it was happening every month I got a commercial campaign they go you've been replaced with the black woman He goes you're the you're the guy for the job It was like a hosting thing where you got to do impressions.

1:31:31I was perfect for it They replaced me so I started you know being prepared and I recorded it And I got it on tape and I just what did you get on tape? What do you say? I got him I got him literally saying We will not represent white men and it's company policy He said it in plain it's not it couldn't be any more clear Wow, he said we cannot work with you just because your skin color and where were you when you recorded this were you in New York? Yeah, I was in New York, so you're allowed you're allowed to do it. Yeah, yeah, I didn't even know that You have to tell them that you're recording no, no, wow Now I was sitting at my pie.

1:32:07I did like a little because I Couldn't work because of the vaccine stuff So I was just locked in my room for two years making Instagram videos I mean I went from zero to a million over a million followers just from That was doing Fauci every day doing cameos going on the radio is Fauci is wow and it was just bizarre and and but it did it it it fuck me up because It was so it's so confusing to have someone go you are the man for the job. I had a great resume I mean, I was I was being considered for big Hollywood roles I was brought in for a sneaky Pete Giovanni Robissi. I was up for that role and making my own films and Yeah, it fucked me up.

1:32:52I got really depressed. I lost my mind and so When you recorded this on tape what happened after you recorded on tape? After that I was too afraid because when I would tell people about this they would go well whatever white guys have had it good You know, I'm going. I just fucking got here But isn't that one of the things that someone said to you like why guys have had a good run? People said to me all the time, but wasn't that one of the things that one of the agents that said to you? Ah, pro. I mean, yeah, mate. I don't know if an agent said that but but you were telling me that someone said it to you comedy Yeah comedy Clubs a lot of what not not necessarily clubs, but like the independent run shows There would be no there would be like no white people allowed shows What yeah, oh, yeah.

1:33:36Oh, yeah. Yeah. I was at a club and I did a spot guy goes you going on the next show And I go, yeah, he goes I didn't know you were in the LGBT plus two RQR community and I go what he goes Yeah, it's only no straight people allowed as like what the fuck What the fuck is going on and uh So I after that I waited a while um I talked to my therapist. I just didn't know what to do because like because I didn't want that to become A force of its own. I wanted to to Have my talent lead the way which it had always been doing And it's tough to have people call it you say you're oh you're you're just being a victim or whatever And it's like yes, sometimes you're a victim and you have to fight it to heal from it and to move on from it And so I thought if I don't fight this I'm gonna kill myself because it was so it's so humiliating to have someone go your skin colors Just it's just not the time for it and so I I just thought I'm gonna go for it and I just put it on Instagram.

1:34:38I said hey I just got turned down for being white any attorneys out there and one guy reached out and goes I'm a discrimination attorney. He goes this is one of the most clear Acts of discrimination. I've ever seen. He said it's so clear cut And uh, so that was a couple years ago. So it's an ongoing thing these things take a long time But um and so what are you you're suing for discrimination? Is that what you're suing for? Yeah, yeah Yeah, every every race is protected under the civil you know civil rights laws if there's no Isn't that crazy though that they would think they're so Incaptured by this fucking mind virus that they would think it's okay to be racist to white people Not only okay, but like sell celebratory.

1:35:22Yeah, you know While yeah, and I don't let people fucking do that to me people think I'm just this nice little I'm a fucking animal When you grow up in a crazy environment and you survive it man It's like fucking come at me and I ride to said I'm gonna it. It's a hill. I'll die on I don't care I was like this is war we're in a full blown culture war and uh and all I would give up everything for it because I also owe it to You know people that can't fight for themselves I had this 10 -year period where this shit wasn't going on I built up my acting chops my comedy chops with nobody saying you can't do that You can't say that and so I had this kind of you know this um This energy I go I have to no one's gonna do it for you, you know, I saw Jordan Peterson You know fight for that bill C16 thing Yeah, and I go holy shit watching if if it it's worth watching The congressional hearing in Canada where he's explaining you can't compel speech you can't tell somebody you have to say my pronouns Or you go to jail He's like this is gonna get out of fucking control everything he said came true Yeah, I had him on Went in the beginning of that stuff and I remember people saying to me like why do you care about what happens These obscure moments that happen in these universities.

1:36:46Yeah, and I had Brett Weinstein on after the evergreen college things same kind of thing And I was saying like do you know these people are gonna graduate? Do you not understand what this is the future? Yeah, like these attitudes that are being in these kids are being indoctrinated into These mindsets they're gonna Expand and they're gonna be involved in the workplace and they're gonna be involved in politics and culture But this mind virus is going to go everywhere and you got to say what it is You got to you got to call it out what when you see it that this is kind of kind of crazy and Obviously all these years later.

1:37:22I mean this was like 2016. I guess yeah, so here we are, you know Well, he's part of the reason I pursue this Jordan because I just he could he's like you have to tell the truth That's it. Tell the truth or tell the truth or at least don't lie You know, it's like well. It's like you can't bloody can tell my speech, you know That's pretty good. Clean your damn room. You know, it's like finger a cat rescue your father from the bell. It's like well You know, it's like you know, I don't develop that one. That's a good one You know why? Because I was in a little a masculated little he -him living in New York And I would sit in my room and watch his lectures with my fucking head would explode I go, oh, this is all the shit that I think and feel but I haven't been able to articulate his brilliant guy and my life The my life changed forever once I heard him say that tell the truth at least don't lie and my life has changed It that video of him with Kathy Newman.

1:38:16Have you seen that? That's amazing. I watch that every week Yeah, it's amazing. It's a master class and how people will try to bend your way and he does not Ben have like well, you know women need to like contend in the workplace So what you're saying is women should just be raped in the break room It's like no, it's like I'm not saying that It's a funny conversation because it's all that gotcha shit gone wrong Because you're doing it with a skilled person a skilled linguist and so it really understands what he's saying And has a deep understanding of the history of Marxists and Leninist philosophy and what what it leads to What communism and socialism actually leads to what you're actually saying is you by In by forcing people to comply There's only one way you force people to comply and that's violence That is the only way ultimately it will we're gonna put you in jail what happens if I resist We're gonna kill you it gets to that it gets to violence We're gonna grab you we're gonna hunt you down We're gonna put you in a cage and then we're gonna force everybody else to comply as well And this is what he's saying is like you cannot go down this path if you do not know where it leads to You can't think you're being virtuous by standing up for this disenfranchise and imposing This especially the gender pronoun thing which at that point in time there was 78 different Recognized gender pronouns.

1:39:35Yeah, who knows how many there are now like now it's nuts It's just like people just make things up and that's what's the fun thing about tiktok China is so clever. Oh my god. They're so good with tiktok is so good It's so they're so smart what they did and then to show you these outrageous people Over and over again with fake eyelashes reading stories to kids just freaking everybody out with a bunch of different You know, I'm too spirit and I'm this and that and I'm trans masculine with the like a fucking the whole thing is just nuts And then shutting down Free speech. I mean, I've been I've been banned for shut down for three years.

1:40:12They froze my I was going All my endemic shit. Oh, they talked. Yeah, they banned you. Would you do they well? They don't have to tell you why they don't have to be in white boy. I was texting one white They don't have to tell you that's part of when you sign up right especially tiktok and it's common It's a communist Chinese we are let it's an act of war living in our pocket. I don't I can't believe it's the one I don't use like I was telling you I changed my name to queer disabled comedian And suddenly they let me I started getting add -offers from tiktok They just like And then when I did the the the bit about where I come out on stages gay That was the first video that they let kind of through Because the algorithm let it through probably did it get reviewed eventually Yeah, it just got removed again I just posted it again because I'm like fuck you so I keep posting these things over and over Just posted under different names.

1:41:10Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, my youngest daughter's obsessed with the vegan teacher The vegan teachers is crazy lady on tiktok That's like this crazy vegan lady and she keeps getting banned And so they keep bringing her she keeps making up new accounts and coming back

1:41:27So that's what I do on stage. I keep coming up with new identities to see what I can get away with what is this Oh, this is his uh, yeah, that's been frozen for three years Wow, yeah, and look at the first video like that's how many views all of my videos used to get 3 .1 million Yeah, I was blowing up like I was getting like 10 -20 ,000 followers a day and then uh wow And that's the difference between a comic selling out a theater and Half -filling a club. Yeah, you know that type of exposure. Oh for sure Especially comic like he was actually very funny when you have these Messages that come and say that your accounts being frozen.

1:42:06They didn't won't give you any reason to they say Non -compliance or community standards. They say disinformation hateful behavior Each one is different, you know, I mean like each video was when they pulled your account with they said Oh, yeah, hateful behavior hate my my Instagram got pulled too No, oh bro. That's when I lost it. When did that was the only back now, right? It's back I by the grace of God I met somebody outside the comedy seller And she goes can I follow you on Instagram? I said no, I'm like they just they just banned my account And that was the only way I was making money was selling tickets from my Instagram videos and going on the road And this girl said I she goes I just quit working there and and uh I said can they just turn you off and on she goes Yeah, I go can you have my account turned back on she was absolutely She gave I gave my information she sent it to somebody in Instagram.

1:43:01They just flipped the switch switch back on the next day. I was back So is it just completely subjective based on what an employee decides You're offensive. Yes, they have a whole fucking department and if they go well They got two complaints or whatever. He's being transphobic or raise whatever the fuck bullshit is going on at the time And that you can't have that with art No, especially not comedy especially not com I mean the whole idea is to push limits and the whole idea is to like walk that crazy line and say wild shit for fun It's just fun fun. These aren't like you can't put them in the same categories as hate speech Because no one's trying to be hateful.

1:43:43They're just trying to get laughs and they're getting laughs Oftentimes by saying something that the audience knows they don't mean They're saying it because it's funny not because it's true Not because they want you to think it's true because it's a ridiculous thing to say and it's a funny thing to say And when you hear the audience laugh that means it worked. Yeah, it was effective It doesn't mean you can then put that in print and say that this is an anti -LBGTQT Who gets to decide AI to Who gets to decide it's like it'd be like pointing to a random person in the crowd at the mothership going You get to pick what's hateful and what's not what comedians exactly But also to like to have random people working at Instagram that get to get to decide that or tick -tock They just get to decide that Yeah, so crazy and you know, we know well Thank God for Elon Musk and and Twitter and X now whatever.

1:44:35I'm never calling it. I hate that Well porn pops every time you know, it's kind of crazy But that was always no, but I mean X all every porn site is like X X X so you type it in and usually a porn site pops up Well, that's maybe your browsing history while that's some talking about a friend of mine But at least on that site you don't have to worry about that shit You could you can get wild you could do whatever the fuck you want there. I got banned the day or week He actually had his attorney reach out to him personally because I was banned right before he started And and I go oh Elon's taking over.

1:45:09I'm they're gonna give me my account back And you know, it just didn't happen And I ran I was doing an RFK fundraiser. I was doing stand -up with RFK Jr And his attorney Ewan's attorney was there Oh wow, and he and she texted him or something. So I look pretty cool. We'll turn it back on So it's pretty funny. We'll get about get it going again. So well, there's no way he could have known I mean, there's so no there's so many fucking I can't tell them about bunch of people that got had gotten unfairly banned Including Megan Murphy who got unfairly banned for saying that a man is never a woman. They banned her forever Well, good But the she's a feminist.

1:45:52That's was so crazy She was just arguing about that trans men or trans women are invading women spaces and imposing masculine behavior and masculine character They're acting like men and taking over women spaces Well, that was the actually the only way to get a movie role for me. I was in that daily wire Oh, yeah, yeah, and I thought how funny that I get kind of canceled for being a white guy And now the first role actually no, I was in the the Western Regina Crono Oh, the white cowboy. Yeah, I'm not sure I had to kick him in the fucking nuts. Did you? I had to beat the shit out of him. That's hilarious.

1:46:28That must have been terrifying. Oh, we fought every day. Yeah, he almost killed me There was a scene where fake hit that guy Not fake he goes fucking get me in the nuts get and he goes So he had me actually kicked me the nuts and I have a cup on no And I was like dude if you're fucking with me and I do this and you kill me This is not and he's like fucking and I ran and kicked him in the nuts. We had to do it like five times Oh my god that guy is an animal. Oh, he's a savage. He would be like let's just improvise the the the fight scenes I'm like I'm a Lego next to you dude Yeah He's too wild He's so crazy and Gina man.

1:47:08She is a monster I mean the stuff she had to do in that film every day get fucking killed and raped and beat up and She that they found me on Instagram. Wow. I was in my I'm my couch depressed and I got a I got a DMs do you want to interview or audition for the new Gina Crono movie? That's great And she just she's suing Disney right now. Yeah I think she she should win. I hope so. I mean what she did was to mean the whole thing is just so everyone's so crazy The everybody got so nuts and it happened so fast It's a a wild ride from like 2017 on it's like once Trump got into office. There's like all the women's marches.

1:47:52Remember those? Yes, where I got pussy. Yeah, but those were like everybody They're women It's just women. Yeah, it wasn't like what's a woman. No, it's like there they are. No women are marching pussy hats on there's no need to wigs a couple years this mass wave of confusion Just goes through the culture and everybody's at each other's throats on social media. I never Um, like interact on social media. I just don't do it. You can't I don't think it's good for you can't Yeah, I think I've taken the bait a couple times. I mean, you know, it's if you're just a regular person and then suddenly start blowing up or whatever and people are calling you are all the worst possible names in the world like It's a little alarming at first.

1:48:39Yeah, you want to defend yourself, but now I mean you can't I think if you wanted to really engage people on actual ideas You'd have to do it anonymously. I think if you really want to like on if you want to have honest discussions with with people publicly about stuff You're really better off doing it anonymously because if you did it anonymously and I don't have any desire to do this either But if you do it anonymously, at least you could there's no personal attacks no one knows who you are no one knows anything about you You can just talk about this issue, you know, whatever the issue is like AI whatever it is Whatever it is is people are debating online you could have discussions about it You know like like people do on like 4chan or something like that or read it Like you have a fucking crazy fake screen name no one has to know who you are and you can talk about things But if you're a public person like you are and you're going like I see people arguing with people back and forth about the quality of their work Musicians arguing with fans or trolls about with another last album was good.

1:49:39I'm like, what are you doing man? You are inviting mental illness into your home You got a disconnect disconnect disconnect and every most people are not disconnected because it is the One form of conflict that they can engage in that doesn't really have consequences Unless you say something really crazy and then it goes public But that's pretty rare most people are just attacking people like randomly getting out their aggression Just attacking people and engaging in arguments online is like my god. It's a great distraction though It's to make it in our industry. It takes a hundred percent of your time and effort Yeah, I mean, I'm in I'm in almost 20 years to the point where I can now like not worry about Feeding myself Well, you came to my attention because of the videos.

1:50:25That's what I found out about you And then comics comics will all have very high praise of you So that's a nice thing to know it's a nice thing. I know and so hey comedy That was actually mark Norman laughing at your jokes when you were new was like the first tonight show Oh, yeah, and he would just go So all the comics that became The way to let somebody know you were good everyone would do the mark Norman laugh So nobody would actually give a genuine laugh, but if you're hey Ha ha you're like all right, right someone says that's a good one Yeah, but there's a lot of times when someone has a really funny joke.

1:51:01I'm always like oh, it's good That's good, you know, that's the same thing. Yeah, and you know what I did actually because I was so afraid to Say what I actually thought I started doing impressions because I would do my joke my I would get my real thoughts out through My impressions and people would link it to them So like I'd be talking about feminism doing bill burby like right I went out with this girl last night. This fucking cun right actually Toxic masculine right fucking brutal right. I got to listen to that shit on a fucking Monday And everybody would erupt and I'd go oh my god. They think that was bill burst thought that was me Right, and so my whole act became you know, just doing Trump just all sorts of stuff and I'm pulling back from that a little now that I have some balls.

1:51:46I've grown some But it's still a fun way to do it. It's still fun way to do. Yeah, it's a fun. It's it's a nice little way to you can sneak things in You know, yeah, do you do it? Do you you're pretty good at them? I heard you impressions. Yeah, I have a limited range The ones that I do I can do good, but I have a limited range Have you ever done uh, have you ever done them on stage? Yeah, I do still Mike Tyson impression Because Mike Tyson yelled at some guy on the audience that he would fuck until until he loved them And I was like do you have any idea how long that would take And he would have to decide he would have to decide if you love it.

1:52:21Oh, yeah I remember that I could do Tyson I could do a few different people It's so funny when people say it's cheap or stupid. I go you just did an impression of your mom or the mailman Everybody's doing you know the fuck those people. Yeah, it's funny. It's funny. It's funny. It's funny If it's good. It's good. It's not good. You won't laugh. That's it end of story in this later. Yeah, thanks Anybody who says it's cheap is like there's cheap stuff. We all know cheap stuff But cheap stuff is not impressions some great people do great impressions and it's it's part of the fun of watching them on stage Like when Shane does Trump.

1:52:54Yeah, it's like it's so good. It's so crazy good. Where he does Conor McGregor It's like I haven't heard it's fun Conor McGregor. Yeah, it does Just Conor McGregor in Roadhouse. It's very funny But it's just it's fun and the crowd loves it and you're you're there to please the crowd. I'm one of the crowd I love it. Yeah, you know this idea this this It's all perpetrated by artists. Yeah, who can't either can't do the impressions or under this False idea that there's like a way that you're supposed to comedy like there was an all way that you're supposed to comedy Where you are supposed to try hard.

1:53:28Oh, there was a lot of that and if you acted things out or you have too much energy They didn't like you like you were supposed to not try and you're supposed to just stand there and be kind of monotone -ish Yeah, that's why I didn't really I don't really hang out with comedians or I am now a little bit because it's a little more comfortable at the Mother'ship, but I didn't like those things getting in my head and then thinking are these comic judge in me in the back or Who cares? No, they all the ones who do suck, but when you're new when you're fresh and you're you're malleable, you know You need to you need to grow like a foundation.

1:54:01Oh a lot of people get sucked down that road They get sucked down that road in life and not just in comedy, but in pretty much every world Every community you get sucked into the ideas of the peers. You want to fit in you want to be one? You got to lift the top member. Oh pop the top It's like the ideas of your peers. You get sucked into this idea that this is the way I'm supposed to think and behave This is the way I'm supposed to perform my art. This is supposed to weigh them like when I first started out Everybody had to be clean. You had to be a clean comedian Yeah, isn't I started out was the 80s the lady I was starting 88 and that was the time where everybody wanted to get on The tonight show and everybody wanted to get a sitcom So you develop this like squeaky clean Television friendly act and if you didn't have a squeaky clean kit television friendly act Oh, this fucking idiot.

1:54:51He's just gonna do the road. You're just gonna be a road act And that's what I was I barely got work in town to do Carson or anything. No No, I I never did any of those talk shows until I became a guest because I was on a television show like a fear factor Something like that. I just sat down and talked to like Conan O 'Brien like that kind of thing But I didn't do stand up on it first of all because I didn't like that kind of stand up I didn't like five minutes that that drove me nuts I had done a couple of things like I did the MTV half -hour comedy hour and a couple those other TV type shows But that wasn't I wanted to be a club comic.

1:55:26That's all I wanted to do I wanted to be a professional club comic and I remember everybody saying you're never gonna get work You're never gonna get work and Part of me was like I don't I mean I remember how did this conversation once with this comic And he was the host of open mic night And he said listen you got to change your act or you're never gonna work and he was a professional And he was like doing okay. He's pretty good like a professional like a local middle act type guy that had like a competent 20 minutes. It was not bad. It wasn't good, but back then I thought it was really good even now.

1:55:57I was 21 I actually saw him live Before I ever got paid into comedy. I went to see Don Myrera and he was one of the opening acts And when he told me that he was like you're never gonna get any work You got to stop swearing here's and I go but all my favorite comedians are like entry dice clay. He goes you're not dice clay I go I was like okay, but at one point in time dice clay my he's like look you don't have to listen But you're not gonna have a career and you're like fucking stormed away left. He feeling like shit and then Four or five years later. I came back to the club headlining Because I was on news radio.

1:56:33Yeah, and the place was sold out and He said what do you want me to say? I go tell them You gave me the worst advice that anybody ever gave me and then tell them all the TV credits that I have that you don't have And he just like like Shook his head a little bit and just walked away because he was right. He was still the same guy He was still trapped. He was still a shitty mediocre And you know barely funny act that was possible under the best conditions possible only But like you would never repeat his jokes at a party. Yeah, I think he said it was ever fun And I went up and killed and it was it was so good.

1:57:09It was fun and I was sweet little dirty and but this like There was like a lot of the comedians back then like the or or established guys were actually angry That I had succeeded with a dirty act because I was on television like I remember one of them saying I can't believe they gave him a job with fucking Disney. Disney hired him Because Disney was where I got my first development deal And they're like fucking Disney if they've ever seen his blowjob jokes like Disney And Well, that shit's on Disney now. Yeah, it's come full circle Where kids are learning but back then it was Everybody wanted to be clean and so there was a lot of peer pressure.

1:57:47So I tried I tried I tried to like conform my act. I tried to like write like material that was not me Can't do it. You know, I was a 21 year old animal who was a kickboxer That's all I was doing. I was my whole childhood from 15 to 21 was me Traveling around the country trying to kick people unconscious and then all of a sudden I'm in this new environment where everybody's Hyper -sensitive and everybody wants you to be clean and everybody wants you to do these jokes that to me We're just like I want to hear wild shit. I like wild shit like I got into comedy because I saw Kinnison Yeah, I got into comedy so I want to do wild shit.

1:58:25That's what I want to do. I want things to make fucking animal on stage It's it's like watching a wild animal But it's just you just letting your fucking self come out. It's just who I am. I mean, that's just me being like what I think is funny Like my kind of comedy you don't have to like it a lot of people don't that's okay That's what I like but that's like all music man, you know like there's people that don't like the black keys I don't understand them Because I love them So I listen to black keys. I'm like fuck yeah, and some people like oh Okay, just don't watch it But this is just life But when you're in an environment where people are telling you like it's an old environment and all of your peers and all the people that are so desperately trying to succeed because You you've achieved a level of comfort now so you can look back on it because it's not that long ago Well, you didn't know if it was gonna work out and that moment when you're starting out whether it's comedy or anything martial arts fucking everything I would imagine when you're Inevering when you're you're entering into this like Crazy world of possibilities.

1:59:31This might not work Like what are the odds that it were how many comedians who do an open mic night ever become a professional headliner God damn it. It's not even one out of a thousand. No It's a nutty number So if that was your child or a really good friend you would say oh my god don't do this like this is not He's not gonna work out for you. Yeah, you're gonna be that 40 -year -old loser staying on people's couches with no future Fuck man, don't do this So when you're in that environment like the all -seeing when no one's really quite sure and then there's a few people that have made it a little bit And those are the ones that kind of set the standards and they behave that way and everybody else wants to be like that And they just want to be liked by everybody else.

2:00:12Everybody conforms everybody becomes like this same thing It's that group identity thing. I mean, which is really what why things are crumbling right? Yeah, you can't have it There is no there's no community any person that tells me I'm in a community You're a child if your community is not your close friends and your family Yeah, and you say you're in a community. You're a child. Mm -hmm. There isn't there's no comedy community They're a bunch of them. Yeah, they're little microcosms of groups of people. Yeah, but once you have said this is our group identity Like this is what white men are. This is what black woman women are.

2:00:49It's Well, one of the nice things about the club is that when we hired Adam E. Get to take over and be the talent quarter one of the things that we were real clear because he was experiencing a lot of pressure in L .A Like you get pressure like why don't you have more women on the lineup? Why don't you have more this on the lineup? How can we not have any gay people? How can we know this? I said listen man This is going to be this club is going to be 100 % of meritocracy I do not give a fuck about any mandates. I don't give a fuck all I care is if you're funny If you're a funny trans person you're funny gay person you're funny white guy you're a funny black lady who Fucking cares.

2:01:26Are you funny? And if you're funny, you're in and because of that look how fucking diverse the lineup is What happens especially with the people coming up There's all kinds of different kinds of people from all kinds of different walks of life with Totally different styles on stage. There's so many different styles and complete freedom Complete freedom to try and Adam is so smart that he'll have these conversations with these people And he'll be like I see what you're trying to do You know, just you just got to like got to hone it in figure it out like I see you're trying to say it like this But maybe like there's a way to say it that like makes the same point, but it's not it's clunky So valuable that doesn't happen in New York It's like you're out if you're not doing what we want and you don't know what they want because it changes.

2:02:16So Well, it's good for us. It is it is it's like helping recruiting tremendously when I met Adam I was like in shock. I go This is so foreign to me a booker who who's like wants to work with you and like and and we'll take A risk and in like invest in your talent. And he was one of Norman McDonald's best friends He did a show with Norman. The guy knows comedy inside and out. I've known Adam for at least 20 years At least I knew Adam when he was working at the Tempe improv Back when I would just do the road there and I became friends of them then and then he came to me when I was banned from the comedy store Uh, he came to me and tried 2007.

2:02:57I was I left the comedy store in 2007 over that Carlsman sea thing Oh, and so I told him I'm like I'm never coming back. I'm like I'm gone. You've never gone back No, I did I went back in 2014. Okay, but one of the reasons I went back is the guy that was running it was fired They caught him stealing money He got fired and then Adam he get to Grover and when Adam took over Adam came to visit me at the improv And I was performing at the improv and he's like I'd really love to have you back at the store I'm like dude. I don't know if I could fucking go back there man I just like I said I was never going back that the whole thing was so fucked up He's like, you know, but that guy's gone and it's different now and we're we're trying to bring the comedy store back And so the reason why did go back though was because Ari Shafir was feeling a special there And I had been friends with Ari when Ari was a door man I met Ari when Ari was just starting out who's a young fresh -faced door man who just abandoned religion really recently And so he was like this young kid and he was funny And I became friends with him and then I started taking him on the road with me After a couple years of him, you know, like seen him perform I gave him some spots outside of town.

2:04:02I took him to Denver. He killed. I'm like God damn And so I helped you know, Ari like I brought him in front of all these crowds. I gave him like the kind of advice that I would want someone to give to me and Him performing at the comedy store having a comedy central special and doing it at the comedy store to me was like I have to be there. Yeah, I have to I have to see that I have to be there. I have to support him I'm so proud of him. I'm so happy. I had to go there So I went there the day before and I the the day I went I saw roast battle and I was like this is amazing It was so vibrant and so alive and the place was packed We're upstairs and I was one of the judges like you would have a judge like they gets to judge the roasts and And we had so much fun and Jeff Ross was hosting it and And it was just the whole thing the whole thing was just it was so It was so vibrant.

2:05:05I was like this is like a writing exercise. This is like I mean, it's a roast bat roast roast battles are you're picking on someone? Yes But it's really just a writing exercise with one specific target That's all it is one topic. Yeah, and Brian Moses is an amazing host of that too He's so good because he's so likable. He's so fun and he even makes people hug it out You know like go wherever at the end. We're all gonna hug like you know, it's nice He does a great job of like keeping it peaceful and playful and then I remember being there for that I'm going. Okay. I think I got to come back And then the next day Ari did a special was amazing.

2:05:48That couldn't believe us like this is just so crazy to see him Filming a special at the comedy store from knowing him from being a doorman. Yeah, you know, and that here he is See people get so good so fast. Yeah, because I only know him as a killer I have no concept of Ari or you know any of those guys when they start. Yeah It's one of the cool things about getting to see someone from the very beginning, you know When I saw Tony Hinchcliffe, I think he'd been doing comedy five or six years when I first met him Yeah, I look at him He's the best Tony is the best roaster on planet earth There's no one better and he'll do it off the cuff He can do it off the cuff better than anybody alive.

2:06:30Yeah, it's so good. You think oh, this is all pretty written And then you go no, he just picked all this you know, I watch him in the mothership dude He does it in the green room all the time him and David Lucas. I keep telling him this god damn it you mother fuckers Do a show together. Yeah, the two of them together are magic It brings out the absolute best in David Lucas because David Lucas goes savage on Tony and Tony goes savage on and they're both laughing at each other's lines So like he'll clown Tony and Tony will be dying laughing like no one gets angry and he'll clown David and David will be dying laughing like personal shit like about the way he looks and you know dying of diabetes and dying laughing Imagine that happening with like young jenzy yoke a woke people like experiencing something They should have to go to the mothership and sit and watch that and go look You can tear somebody down and and it's all fun.

2:07:24It's just fun Z's and the one of the things about the mothership That's so important is kill Tony because what kill Tony shows everyone is that in one minute All you have the time for is to be funny and And everything funny is rewarded you could say outrageous things people say outrageous things on kill Tony all the time But if you do well in that one minute and they give you a big notebook and they say we're gonna bring you back And then you get to get a chance to go back or you get a golden ticket you get to perform again or then you become the newest regular And now guys have careers yeah Camp Patterson has a fucking thriving career Hans came as a thriving career William Montgomery thriving career David Lucas These guys are killing it on the road killing fuck.

2:08:07I should have moved to your five years No, no, no perfect time dude. You're doing great and the new special that you just film there is coming out. It is yeah When you get to put it out. It's It'll be out probably tonight. Oh, yeah, so fast and it was it's all election stuff And I I'm not a big fan of themed comedy specials, but it was just like Why not? I don't know. Nobody even why not for now Well, that's why I changed I changed course in it and I saw that Biden thing where he's sitting on the imaginary chair And I go I got to get this out now And the weekend was so fun man that room is magical.

2:08:44It's great room. I think that building is alive, dude It feels like it's been there for 20 years. Yeah, it felt like that right away The building felt like that right away that building's been there for since 1927 And I have this thought about things that have been around a long time I think memories get baked into buildings. I really do sure when I go to the comedy store every time I go to the comedy store I have this feeling you walk in the hallway you get this feeling like wow so much has happened here There's so many experiences baked into that even when no one's in that building I used to like when we were leaving late at night You know, we'd be hanging out in the back bar in missies bar And we'd be drinking and talking and everybody's like all right time to go home and we'd go out in the hallway And you just feel the building the building that buildings alive It wouldn't have been the same if you just built a new construction It wouldn't have it would have had that kind of fresh kind of We would have made it alive We would have eventually it would have it would have taken a little time We would have we brought the right spirit we brought the spirit of the comedy store to the mothership You know, we knew what we needed we knew we needed because we already had it.

2:09:56We had it in LA We had that We had a home base and that's what we needed here Like when we first moved here, I was like god, we don't have a home base We had the Vulcan which is great But it wasn't set up the way I would set it up. It wasn't ideal Like there was a lot of problems with the dynamics of the and I was like it's also not it's not quite big enough Like this isn't ideal like so we started looking for other places and then when we found the mothership When we walked when I walked into the Ritz theater and looked around It was like the place was talking to me Was it just one feet? What was it?

2:10:33What did it look like when you walked in? Well, it's been a bunch of things since 1927. It was a pool hall. It was a punk rock club I guess it was a nudie movie theater at one point in time. I can still feel the vibe. Yeah And the sexual energy in there. We're done energy in that place and then From I think 2007 on it was the Alamo draft house So that's what it used to look like. Oh my god. Yeah So it used to be like that but was it that the whole thing though or is that just what the the fat man is now That's the fat man. So the little boy was always there too. That was a smaller theater So the Alamo draft house had two theaters one theater that sat like 120 people and one theater that sat like whatever this seats We we have it set up for 250 people now So you see how it angles up like that.

2:11:19Yeah, so what we did was we right where Jamie's cursor is we cut the floor Oh shit, and so we lifted From all the way back to like the second row We lifted the floor up to that height so it's flat and then So it doesn't angle downward So that's the little room right so we we lifted the floor up to make it closer to the ceiling and then we changed the dynamics of the stage So instead of being like this steep angle like a movie theater where everybody has a nice shot at the screen It's flat like a comedy club and then we lowered the ceiling and then so you could see where the balcony is the ceilings lower Even then the balcony because that that was Louis idea to lower it Louis idea was like can you lower the ceiling even more and I'm like I think we can and so I brought it to work New York everything's just so fucking low.

2:12:11Yeah, it is, but it's also Louis because he's not just a comic He's also a producer like he's done a lot of films and he understands like sets and he deeply understands like recording and dynamics He's like he goes cover everything with cloth like good muffle all the the the back is that the old what was this one? Wow, they're definitely watching something on this so that was they had one solid balcony back then interesting Instead of two box balconies That's the fat man to yeah Crazy look at all of them back then look at them. I've found a picture of Henry Rollins there. What yeah Henry Rollins was on stage there in 1983 Look at that what here is that from That's crazy over there watching a talky there a colored film.

2:13:02That's what it looked like back then dude in that nuts Yeah, so it's been there for so long and It was the the queen that used to be called wow River in front of it. What is that that's the dirt? Oh? That's the brown man. That's probably before it was paved where they had pavement. Yeah, they probably didn't pave it yet and so When we got there. Oh, here's another funny story when we got there We had to tear some of the stuff off the walls and a swastika was painted on the brick whoopsie daisy Yeah, it cuz you know, it's be a punk rock club. I guess someone painted a swastika on the wall. He's just and I'm sure there.

2:13:43Yeah, there's a punctual there. I show you that photo of Henry Rollins. I send that to you. I think I did so That we're doing all the construction and I figured someone would fucking remove the swastika But it was like months before we opened I go hey Why is the fucking swastika still here? And so they go I will take it we'll remove it So they remove the paint which made a clear white swastika I go hey retards Get rid of the design Don't accept because now it's even more obvious because now that the where all the fucking swastika was was sandblasted off in the exact same design Let's cleaner. We think you know, but that's what happens when you you hire laborers who don't really necessarily know what that fucking thing they could Ascent to Columbia University.

2:14:32Is that Henry Rollins on stage there? Yeah black flag 1982 rich theater. Yeah Oh shit. I sent you one. Did I show you the one? I'll say it's you right now. I got a better photo of it the better photo. It was pretty fucking crazy I A whole lot of circuit. I'll get it here I know I got it in this little pile. That's 1980 black and white 1982 Well, you probably hired to put it in black and white do it in black and white. It's funny Things really do feel old -timey and black and white. I can't find it I give up but anyway point is We have photos in the the downstairs for you go on stage There's those photos of Steve Ray Vaughan.

2:15:16That's him on stage in that club in 83 Damn. Yeah, so there's like this crazy history that's baked into that place and think about just think about the history in the last year You've been open. I know how much has happened in that room Well, how much has happened in the Austin comedy scene the fucking scene is exploded It's pretty wild. It's just a neat. It's a it was an empty void that was needed because you go on the coasts And there's great clubs, but that group identity shit this race can say this and that it has every night You got to sift through that bullshit There's also a history of wild comedy here Because this is where Bill Hicks started.

2:15:54This is where kennis and started they both started in Texas And when I had heard about Texas like Jeanine Garoflo was out here at one point in Houston There was a bunch of comics are out here in in in Houston and I was like what is going on in Houston I remember hearing about that when I lived in Boston because I lived in Boston comedy stores Mecca. That was a place you had to get to I remember everyones like you got to get to the comic stories were richer priors started It's where Sam kennis and started dice clay was there all these comedians were at the comedy store Like you had to get to the comedy store.

2:16:24It was the place then I kept hearing about Houston And then when I saw kennis and and Hicks people like you know they came from Houston. I was like what Kennis he came from Houston like from Texas Texas made comedians. Where was it performing though? What was available the last stop the last stop and river oaks was a fucking amazing club I don't think it's there anymore I don't think the clubs not there anymore because the club moved to a new location And I think that club went under but the original place where the last stop was was a great club low ceiling Perfect little stage and then there was also a little side area where they had an open mic They would go to like two o 'clock in the morning vibrant scene Like really vibrant scene and everybody loved to come through Houston and work that club And when you work that club, you know, you do like whatever Wednesday Thursday Friday side or whatever days You do you would go there and you'd see the open mics and we packed in the local comics were no idea They were good man local comics were fucking good like you know You'd get to see these guys like Jimmy Pineapple these guys like you probably never heard of no solid fucking comedians You know when Sean Rousers there at the time and Ralphie May there was a lot of comics coming out of that area That was like this is nuts man.

2:17:43I did not know that like Houston like Texas and specifically mostly Houston had this scene And Austin had a bit of a scene but you know a little bit smaller But nothing was like what it is now you should have something in the middle of the country you can't just have Comedy on the on the liberal coasts. You need something in the in the middle of the country I think that has something to do with it. It helps for sanity. Yeah, but it also helps that it's run by comics Like that club's run by us. It's our club. It's there's no one else. There's no management You know, there's no like there's no overseer.

2:18:17There's no executives that are making decisions based on money Everything's made based on comedy so yeah, yeah I know I know some some places if they get a couple complaints about a joke they want you to I'm not gonna mention where but I kind of got a little talking to like we got some complaints about this one joke And I'm thinking like who gives a fuck yeah the joke kills every time Yeah, they don't get it. They're they're working against themselves. Yeah, they don't even understand what they're doing They're they're literally poisoning their own business with this stupidity You just gotta like let people know you can be free and you'll have more audience members And you will get rid of these people that are looking to be offended constantly because it won't be effective Oh, that shit only works if people comply if people don't comply and then other people go This is just comedy just like when you go to see Quentin Tarantino movies.

2:19:08Nobody's really getting killed You know Bob Marley Bob Marley never really shot the sheriff. I don't know if you know that that was not real Come on. I know come on crazy It's comedy and the problem is these fucking idiots that are running these clubs are giving into the very thing that's gonna kill their business Uh, this has given me like a second birth really Because I hit this wall where I kind of you know I've developed this act and then you need to experiment Yeah, and once I started getting challenged when I would try to like veer off and experiment a little and I'm never gonna bomb I will end strong.

2:19:42I'm there to entertain the crowd That's that's my thing. I'm willing to do crazy shit and experiment But they're everybody's paying and they're there and then you know, I'm gonna end strong and so Yeah, that was enough to get my ass to Texas. I never thought you could be Texas. You could be free here You could be free here and you could be free where we are like it's uh, we've set it up that way We want it to be it's like an actual safe space, you know for real like yeah, but but safe for everybody Yeah, I mean you can be whatever the fuck you want as long as what you're saying is funny It's it's all it is.

2:20:12There's no room for any horse shit. No ideology. No nonsense. It's just you could have an ideology But it's just gotta be funny that that is is palpable there or maybe the opposite of that you there's no like The meritocracy that you set up you can feel that there you go in there and it's you're funny or not Yeah, and you're supporting this very supportive identity politics stuff, which is just Killin the business man, the scene everywhere. Well, it's just bad for some a business that's about taking risks and saying outrageous things and pushing the envelope and That's all the greats all the imagine setting up Like what what a comedy club essentially is in this world in the in the world of stand -up comedy a comedy club is a place Where you can hone your craft and perform so you go to clubs you learn how to do it Then you go to clubs and you make a living doing it and then eventually if you get big enough Then you start branching out into theaters and arenas So it's literally the the gym.

2:21:15It's literally the dojo. It's the personal. It's the place where you learn Imagine having a place where you learn where you can't take chances In a business that's wrapped around taking chances where all the greats whether it's Don Rickles Lenny Bruce George Carlin Richard prior all of them said wild shit. Yeah, all of them and The only way you develop wild shit is by performing it on stage in front of people with freedom We get a chance. I just watched the George Carlin documentary. Do you see that? I was on HBO or whatever is so good And I'm almost like man. He almost had more freedom than then we he's talking about seven words You can't say shit is fuck concocksucker motherfuckin tits.

2:21:58Yeah, the seven were now. It's like The seven million topics you can't talk about race gender gender. I but you can you can you just have to do it And if you have a club that has that established like the mother ship anybody could do it You don't have to have a big audience. They'll let you do it Anyone will let you do it and no one's gonna complain and then they will come see you again Sure, and then you'll develop and then the people coming to see you know what you do and there's no worries That's how comedy should be done. That's the right way to develop both offensive and non -offensive acts Sure, you know some of my favorite acts are not Nate Bargazzi's hilarious.

2:22:34Yeah, completely non -offensive hilarious But that's Nate's act. Yeah, Brian Regan Sebastian same thing great comedians But that's their thing and that's great There's no I ever want to see a clean person just go I want to see him do an hour of the filthiest fucking shit It'll be funny Sebastian, you know it you're gonna get you're taking this job Yeah, I take a girl home in a night. She goes Gonna give you a rim job. I go Hey, she starts pecking at me like like a baby bird. I go I don't want my girlfriend to have the same lingo as my mechanic Okay, what are you gonna start tweaking my nipples, right?

2:23:12Give me a I just want to see him fucking get Seinfeld yeah, talking about fucking trans stuff and all that Well, even Seinfeld's pushing back and all this woke shit. Well, he's getting fruit. Have you seen the protest? Well, they're a show now. It's palestine protests It is but it's still kind of linked up with like we're gonna shut down comedy and for our you know, cause So he's he's getting caught up in that stuff Well, you got a lot of really dumb young people that are very entitled and think they can shut things down because they have a cost You think they I mean you think they would learn but they're not going to and they're gonna keep doing it And there's the more attention they get every time they do it see the stop oil now people they just They vandalize stonehenge What the fuck does stonehenge have to do with oil?

2:23:59It's it's an amazing Monument that's thousands of years old and you just spray paint all over it because you want people to stop using oil It's a mental illness and you're wearing clothes made out of oil You fucking idiot. Everything you own was shipped on a truck that was used oil Every fucking thing you eat every fucking thing in your house Everything your house is made out of the the electronics on your phone. Yeah, the wires in your wall Everything uses plastic you fucking idiot. Everything uses oil They're not stopping shit. No Yeah, a little tomato soup on the van go. It's always rich kids too.

2:24:36It's entitled kids It's posh kids that think that this is the thing that they should be doing with their life because they don't have any purpose They're taught that from element now I mean for me it started popping up in college a little bit these kids like oh yeah age three Anti -racist baby. That's a real book. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, my kid when we were in school Right after the George Floyd thing. They sent an email saying to young kids like some of them as young as like six and seven Went there Saying that it's not enough that you not be racist You have to be anti -racist. They're telling us the kids who don't have any concept of race They have black friends Indian friends Asian friends.

2:25:18These are friends. Who's nice to me? Who who likes playing the toys that I play with Who likes playing the games that I play? Let's let's hang out You know, they don't care and you're making them Focus on this for no fucking reason It's gonna fuck them up. Yeah, so fired the person at the school and then became like a big lawsuit But they realized they were getting grifted on But Jesus fucking Christ you idiots like how did you not see through and the parents were freaking out like what the fuck are you teaching them? Like why are you doing this like why are you introducing all these ideas? Is there a if there's a problem?

2:25:50Let's talk about the problem. There's no fucking problem This is not an issue at all and you're making it an issue to make yourself important And that's the problem with these positions when people have these positions of equity and inclusiveness Oh my god, they have these positions in universities. They have these positions in corporations. It's like God damn the whole equity thing that's that happened overnight the word equality was switched with equity the Equal outcome and that's so you you have to for that's the only way to do it is to force it We have to force it we have to have this person and this person in this race But all the identities are becoming infinite now.

2:26:28Yeah, so it's like you're gonna. Okay. We're it with Kamala Harris I mean they had to discriminate against every other type of person because they said we're having a black woman So they had to discriminate against black men. Yeah, and Asian women and everybody Yeah, well, it's definitely not a meritocracy if you got her No, no, none of it makes any sense. No, the whole thing's bonkers man. It's a fascinating fascinating time to be alive But it's good for comedy good for comedy. I'm actually playing a DEI officer a Jedi He's called justice equity inclusion officer in Adam Corolla has a new cartoon Mr.

2:27:05Birchham which she's been which he um He pitched that like 10 15 years ago to Fox and they said no and daily wire who's just like scooping stuff up They produced it and I think a lot of that was a response to what we were talking about once We're saying you can't make a good comedy movie right now because no one will go off Jeremy saw I saw that and was like fuck dude keep they wrote that thing in like two weeks They flew me out to punch it up We filmed it in like three weeks and it was out That's why but this is mr. Birchham Kyle's in it Megan Kelly's in it and Kelly. It's got a cast man nice It's got Jay Moore nice That's my little diversity officer guy Ha ha ha Alonzo.

2:27:47Yeah, I love Alonzo Nice yeah, it's uh, it's like um You know, it's like a family. It's a fun time to push back. Yeah It's a fun time to push back the things have gone a little bit haywire But we're gonna be all right for a comedian. Oh my god I just wait wake up and I just look at the headlines and one thing that comedy does do is it highlights how ridiculous These things are and it takes some of the weight off of them Yeah, it's the only way the what even look with the word woke Woke used to be a cool thing and it with because of comedy. It's fool. It's now. It's a clown world word Yeah, it's a clown world word that you can't use on the other side You can't say I'm woke because I was like You fucking idiot.

2:28:33Yeah, you fucking idiot. So it becomes a pejorative It becomes something that someone points to it says oh you're infected with the woke mind virus like yeah Yeah, like no one who is woke claims woke. No, you can't do it. They used to that's from comedy Yeah, that is from it just from memes. It's from the internet. Yeah, that's what it is, man incredible Well, listen dude. I'm happy you're here. Hey, thank you very very funny guys We're really fun watching you perform at the club. I appreciate that your specials gonna fucking destroy I saw some clips. It's really funny. Thanks. It's really good building this thing that that is so needed my pleasure Thanks for joining the team now from around the cold the world now.

2:29:12We're showing up. Yeah. Yeah, it's fun We're having a good time awesome. We're gonna keep rolling man. We got more plans. Can't wait. I'm doing weeks in here. So yeah, we're gonna expand get me buff Please Let's do it. Let's do it. All right, tell everybody your Instagram while before they take it. Yeah, tie the fish T. Y. The fish F. I. S. C. H. and I'm on tour right now all over the country What's the website Tyler Fisher calm and yeah specials out now. It's called the election special And I have a pandemic special too that I filmed when I was canceled Kind of illegally I filmed in a comedy club that wasn't allowed in nice so nice all right, dude Thank you brother.

2:29:47Thank you. My pleasure brother welcome aboard All right, thank you. Bye everybody

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