#2173 - Jimmy Dore

24:57And you have to have one, one narrative. And that's it. And then, but none of the, like, they're supposed to stand up for these. Why didn't Rachel Maddell say something? Why didn't Chris Hayes, they, none of them said anything, none of a fake, tough guy, Lawrence O'Donnell, none of them said anything. They just, okay, we'll keep your head down and keep taking it. You know, you know, Rachel Maddell gets paid $100 ,000 a day. Like to me, I don't know, that's a lot of money. Good for her. That's a good, you buy a lot of man suits with that money. I love, I love what she was being interviewed by Ben, who's the, what's his name?

25:30Ben, the guy who did Tropic Thunder, Ben, what's it? Ben Stiller. Oh, Ben Stiller. They weren't the exact same. Of course. Of course. They, that's one way that, for whatever reason, hardcore lesbians, when they want to be taken seriously, they dress like a man. And they dress like a man in a business outfit. Yeah. Like Hannah Gatsby. Oh, okay. Look how she dresses. She puts a suit jacket on. She's fantastic. I'm serious. I'm here for the meeting. I'm here to explain things to you people. Kirk Katsby. Look at Joe's car, bro. Look at what does he say. Is this the one that you're looking for? Yeah, yeah.

26:05Let me hear it. Yeah. Start your tape right now, because I'm about to tell you the truth. It's a few. A few. If you can't handle this. It's six in the morning. It's six in the morning. A few. Version of Biden. Intellectually. Analytically. Is the best Biden ever. Not a close second. Not a close second. The presents use of knowledge for 50 years. And we're all fucking liars. I wouldn't say it. Yeah. And these people say that Trump's a liar. That's a. I mean, Trump's a huge bullshit or for sure. But we're in a Cohen Brothers movie. Yeah, this is unbelievable. And so how could if you. Can you imagine the people?

26:49I don't know how many people watch that show. But 45 people. Can you imagine still tuning in after that? Yes. It's time to fucking wake and bake. And let's go. Tell me about the world, Joe. I used to watch. I used to. Before I went to sleep. I used to. I would. I would be up. I was. I used to be a night owl. When I was just a comedian before my show. And. So I like it. I would wait till three in the morning. I'd be up late. I'm like, oh, I can't. I can wait. I can watch Joe Scarborough before I go to bed morning. Joe was told. And the joke I used to do is I. I watch it. Before I go to bed because I like to go to bed angry.

27:24And. That. I don't know how anybody could watch that again after that. How could you. Could you. And have any self respect. Unless it's, you know, you're. You're high and you're enjoying it. So I have to be high and enjoying it. And then it becomes high comedy. I mean, because it's so good. That was so good. That. That was so good. That. You. If you put that in a movie, people wouldn't buy it. I know. They would go, come on. No, that's not real. No one would do that. This is stupid. I've lost my disbelief in your. A few. He's going to tell his own audience. A few. If you don't believe Joe Biden's not to me.

27:57Yeah. If I was in a movie theater. My suspension of disbelief would go. Come on. This is. I'm. That's why I was confusing. I was looking. There's other videos I'm seeing. That might have been a different. Time. And. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That was just a few weeks ago. No, no, no, no. This is saying right here post the debate. And he's saying like they should replace. No, after the debate. And after the book. That's part of the thing. So that was right before that. Yeah, I thought this was after. Okay. That was weeks before the debate. He's saying that. I'm like, can you believe the balls on these people?

28:26Crazy balls. And so then after the debate, he does this 180. Yeah. And there's all these videos that show him before and after. So that the greatest 180 turn around of all times. So if you go to the one up there with the black and white Joe. And then I just. Yes. That's the one show that it's only 30 seconds. Yes. But I understood when I said he's coach. Coach. He's far beyond coach. Oh, he's being. He's. I think he's better than he's ever been. This is a battle for the future of American democracy. And now is a good time in June. Thank God. In June and not October in June. This is the last chance for Democrats to decide.

29:07Whether this man we've known and loved for a very long time. That would just up to the past. So that's that's just a matter of weeks in between those two jokes. Yeah. F you. And I wouldn't say it wasn't true. Okay. Now we can thank God. We can replace them. But well, here's why I have a theory about this, by the way. Okay. So they've never done presidential debates this early in the election season before. Right. And so my theory is that his his own team sabotaged them. They knew this. So they wanted to get Joe Biden through the primary because now all the delegates are beholden to Joe Biden means they're beholden to the Democratic Party donor class.

29:43Yes. So there's no there isn't no 50 % Bernie Sanders delegates out there. Right. They're not going to have any trouble getting them to all coalesce at the convention and pick a new person. So they wanted to get Joe Biden to go through. And then as soon as he got through the thing, they're like, oh, let's have a debate. And then they knew he would look like this. So then they can have enough time to get rid of them. That's that seems pretty plausible that that's what's going to happen. And guess what's going to happen now. So they're going to have a person at the top of the ticket who nobody voted for.

30:12Because they're going to choose them at the convention. And nobody voted for this person. And they're saying democracies on the ballot. That's the irony. Isn't that wild? Yeah. Well, not only that, but what did they do to keep RFK Jr. out of the primers to the point where he had to go independent? So yeah, they were making it impossible for him to get on ballots. They were, they were, they were, they were, they were. You know what? I had, he told me, but I can't remember, but they were making it. Well, when I remember the first time I had him on my show, I was, I was, it was like a joke. I'm like, dude, you're running as a Democrat.

30:48I go, why do you think they have super delegates? They have super delegates for people like you. It's not going to happen. I can't get excited about your candidacy. And so what anything he said, I just didn't get into it, right? I was appreciative of the stuff he was saying around COVID and things like that. But it was just the, I told him it's a false errand, right? And he's like, I'm a Democrat. I've always been a Democrat. I'm a Democrat. And I'm like, yeah, the Democrats are going to screw you. And they did. And so I don't know exactly how, but it got so untenable that he couldn't run inside the, because they would have these different rules that they were just making up just to screw him.

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32:53That guy being in office. Not just a democratic party, but that guy. So if a new guy comes in, like a varf k junior comes in, if he wins, then everyone's out of a job. Oh, yeah. Well, the whole machine's out of a job. So it's very clear, watching Joe Biden talk, very clear, that he's not making all his decisions. And someone writes this stuff down. We've seen the cue cards that he has. They tell him what to say. We see him read teleprompters and say, end of quote. He says things like that. Just did it again. This is again. That's it all the time. So we know that there's no fucking way he's the man behind the machine.

33:31So that means there's a bunch of people that work for him that are essentially running the country. And those people don't want to lose that position, including his wife. His wife apparently, by all takes, and she did an interview afterwards, where she said he's smarter than he's ever been. I know him. I see him buying clothes. She doesn't want him to stop. Pure evil. What is that? That's pure evil. I mean, you think it's just like a power thing. She's in power. She doesn't want to not be the first lady anymore. Like, what is it? Yeah. Of course. I think that's what I think it is. Well, how could you not have compassion for your own freaking husband?

34:03I mean, Jesus Christ. I mean, he should have had his keys taken away years ago. And here she is trying. And you did a good job. You answered all the questions. That was crazy. That's how you talk to a three year old. She answered all the questions. I could see answering one or two, but all of them. If my wife talks to me like that, I would just start laughing. Because I think, oh, she's fucking with me. I wouldn't just stand there. But you would be saying, yes, I did. It's a wild video. I'll play that video. Play the video of Jill saying that to Joe, because it's I saved it. And by the way, I listened to the debate again on the plane.

34:34You don't even fucking get the pertinent information from round one. He's like, I need to go over this to the fine tooth cone. Because they kept saying that, oh, because the line now is that Joe might not have answered the questions, you know, like quickly or loudly, but he was telling the truth. The his first answer, he lied three times. Joe Biden, he lied about the Medicare. So it was it's $2 ,000. He said it was 200. He lied about the diabetes. And he lied about Trump saying the bleach thing. Trump never said the bleach thing. He was talking about ultraviolet erudation, which is a real thing that actually works.

35:09It actually works. And not only that, they've used it for decades. Yeah, but they were talking about using it for respiratory diseases. And what's shining light into the lungs? So I talked to a doctor who told me that that worked well. And so the people like the medical association, they came to them, they go, hey, you have to sell this technology to us. And he said, no, and they said, well, if you don't, we're going to have a bullshit study that says this doesn't work. And that's exactly what they did. Wow. And they do that to everything that's played this real quick. You did such a great job.

35:48You answered every question. You knew all the questions. Bro, let me ask the crowd. Look at him standing there. Trump do. Oh, bro, he looks so baffled. First of all, if I was in his corner, the first thing I want to do is give him a hair piece. Let's go, bro. I wish you can't compete with Trump's wacky hair. You need fake hair. You need fully fake hair. I think they'll buy it. Don't even sweat it. We're going to glue a nice piece on you. You're going to have a distinguished head of hair. Second of all, whoever the fuck is giving your Botox back off a little. Let the guy move the forehead a little bit.

36:27This is ridiculous. You're not tricking me to think that he's young. I know exactly how old he is. Go to the watch house. Oh, no, that's not it. Or would you help some opposition? Yes, this is it. Watch, she has to walk him down the steps. Are they going to show it, show it? Yeah, he's got some bad knees. Show it, Joe. Old war injuries, bro. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's defending the Girl Scouts from the Taliban. Look at this. Yeah. Look at this. I know, it's crazy. You have to go sideways. And if you don't think that's the best version, fuck you, Joe. F you. Fuck F you. I love that guy because he's the tough guy Democrat.

37:00Yeah. He's a Republican. But no, no, no, he's a Democrat. He's on TV. Oh, yeah. MSNBC. Whatever it is. Yeah. Well, that this goes to show you that there is no difference between the parties. And I remember when Donnie Deutsch accidentally let it slip out on Joe Scarborough's show. Is Joe Scarborough actually a Republican? He was a Republican congressman. What is he considered himself one now? I think so. For real? I mean, he's like a never Trump Republican. Never Trump Republican. Yeah. And Donnie Deutsch said that, I remember, if Bernie Sanders wins, this was in back in 2020. If Bernie Sanders wins, I have to vote for Trump.

37:38And Joe Scarborough was like, oh, Donnie, do you hear what you're saying? And Donnie was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know why I said that. I know why you said that because you fucking would. That's why they they they they they they scared of Bernie people who Bernie Sanders presents as being turns out Bernie Sanders isn't that guy Bernie Sanders is a lapdog to power. But but he didn't need just seem to become that as of recently. Yeah. I mean, I think he always was just tired when you go back in time. And you know, he didn't he stopped talking to Ralph Nader. He stopped talking to Michael Parente.

38:11He was for the bombing of Kosovo. He's always been a little bitch for the military industrial complex. And he it's disgusting. And so if you really look, yeah, I got so excited about Bernie Sanders. Right? I mean, that was so I've never been more excited about a politician in my life. And I've never been more let down by a politician in my mind. They lied about the CARES Act and he lied about putting, oh, we had to do it for the unemployment. I like that was just the largest. You know, that was the largest upward transfer of wealth in the human history was the CARES Act. And they that's a nobody talks about that.

38:41Explain the CARES Act. So that was when right when COVID hit and they passed that $5 trillion bill. $5 trillion. Just out of nowhere. They didn't go they didn't go tax people for it. They just fucking printed it. $5 trillion. And that was considered the largest upward trend. So that's remember. And none of them there was no money in there for the for pay people salaries. Remember like that's what other countries did. What did the $5 trillion go towards? Went towards the thousand richest motherfuckers in the country basically. That's what you know, that's where you got the you kick. If you had a business you could apply for a peep was some kind of PPE loan and stuff like that.

39:15A lot of people scam those loans. A lot of people. I've seen so many arrests. I got one Lamborghini's and you got one. I was like fuck everybody else is getting one. I better get one. Wow. And I was like I told my staff and everything like that. Yeah, I told my wife I go I don't know. I we don't know what's going to happen. So I said hey apply see what happens. They gave it they gave it to us. I was like what? I can fucking believe it. So you have to pay it back. Is that what it is? No. It's just free money. No, if you don't if you don't lay off anybody like for a certain amount of time, then you get to keep it.

39:47But if you did. Yes. You just get free money. Yeah. Whoa. Yes. That's crazy. It was five trillion dollars they gave up. Joe. Yeah. And they gave it out probably the companies that didn't lose profit. I bet. Yeah. Right. So they didn't they didn't fire companies and they didn't stop operations. I wonder if I look somebody should look in how much an Amazon get. Did they get money? Did they get that kind of money? Even though they're smart. They got paid. Yeah. There's a dirty corrupt system. They're a part of it. Let's go. Let's party. I think we bust this move out. Everybody sick. But don't you think it's called a cares act called the cares act like the Patriot act.

40:27What aren't you a patriot? And they say, yeah. Are you a patriot? You don't care about America. Why do you care about America? No. Why do you hate freedom? Yeah. Why do you hate freedom? You won't sign the Patriot act. It's called the Patriot act. The most Nazi -like thing ever. The government can spy on you. That's the Patriot act too. Okay. You think it is a Patriot act too. Okay. Electric Boogaloo. Or the National Defense Authorization Act. Oh, yeah. Those ones would pass through this. In the 2011 NDAA Section 1021, Barack Obama got rid of habeas corpus. That's not important. What's really important is that we get these trillionaires all their money for COVID.

41:06Get rid of habeas corpus, Joe. So now habeas corpus was in the Magna Carta. So now we're operating on a liberty view from somewhere around the 1100s. That's what people do. And democracy is on the ballot that you fucking more. Democracy hasn't been on the ballot for decades and decades. You don't live in a democracy. You live in an oligarchy which was proven by a Princeton study over 10 years ago. And what are you going to get pissed off about that? No, no. Because the TV guy says, no, no, it's the Joe Biden's democracy and Trump isn't. And don't you love all that shit about how, oh, he'll never leave office.

41:40I didn't know that was an option. I didn't know a president could just decide to not. So every president has left office just because they're good people. Just because they decided to. Oh, he's going to be a dictator. I didn't know what president. I thought we had co -equal branches of government. How is this all shit? They just say this shit. And it's none of it's true. And they all just make it. He was already president one time. He left office. Yeah, we don't even live through it. Everybody's pretending that if he gets into office, he's going to be the horrible thing that they predicted that didn't take place when he was in office for four years.

42:09Why would he? What evidence are you basing this on? The evidence that when he was in print, when he was actually the president and he was for four fucking years. Right. Like, you're, he didn't none of those things. He didn't prosecute his political rivals. He didn't go after Hillary Clinton. He didn't lie. Even though she was a super criminal. Remember the FBI, the comie guy came out and he said, yeah, this is going to sound crazy in a couple of different ways. But yes, we found hundreds of high level documents, secret classified documents on her server. But, you know, we're not going to prosecute her.

42:40I know this is going to sound weird. Do you remember that? Yeah, I do. That made somebody made a hilarious video out of it. They put it to music. It was weird at the beginning because a lot of people, myself, included saw him firing Comey. I'm like, whoa, you're going to fire the head of the FBI because it doesn't like you. Like, that's crazy. That's crazy. And a piece of piece of shit. Well, because of that, what I was going to say is because of that happening, it caused so many people to start going, what is the FBI done? Like, what are they doing? And then you start reading stories and you start understanding the history of it.

43:14And you're like, oh, what? What did they do? What have they been involved in? I know what I know. Good things. A lot of good things. There's a few, but like, whatever, within any kind of large organization, there's a lot of competitive people trying to rise to the top. You're going to get unscrupulous fellows. Social paths. Social paths to the top. Yeah. And they're going to do some things. And if they're in high positions of power and they can manipulate everyone around them to go with it, that's what you get. So you get in every human situation. Yeah. You know what you get? You get January 6th.

43:45That's what you get. You get, uh, you get, uh, rush a gate. I know the, I know that the FBI lied to the Pfizer court 17 times so they could get a tap on Brock, uh, on, uh, Donald Trump's phones. That happened. They lied to the Pfizer court 17 times. Nobody talks about that. Nobody pays a price for that. Uh, they did it to the goddamn, you know, you know, I'm sure you saw the video of when Chuck Schumer was on with, uh, Rachel Maddow. And he says, well, talking about Trump. Yeah. That, uh, he's being really dumb to, uh, to criticize the intelligence community, meaning the CIA and the FBI. And Rachel Maddow says why?

44:17And he says, cause, uh, they've got six ways this Sunday to mess with you back. So what he really was saying there, that that was the leading Democrat in the Senate, the leader of the party. He was telling people in it into a camera that the president, that the CIA and the FBI doesn't work for the president, that he has to worry about them. And if they don't work for the president, who the fuck do they work for Joe? Right. And of course, Rachel Maddow never asked that question. She's never going to do that because, you know, she's a, uh, lap dog of the military, industrial complex, Wall Street, big farm, uh, all of them.

44:51It's just the same. It was, it's a natural thing that takes place when any organization gets extreme power. And that was supposed to be mitigated, right? And that this is like the problem that Kennedy had with secret societies. This is the problem that Kennedy had with the CIA and with Kennedy had with the NSA. This, these, you, when you ever get people that are above everything, like this concept of the deep state, you put your tinfoil hat on when you just say the word deep state. Everybody who is not paying attention, people that are just reading mainstream news, you say deep state, they go, oh god, he's a QAnon guy.

45:22Yeah. They're not here. The deep state's real. And it's 100%. It's real. It's the intelligence community. And Chuck Schumer said they don't work for the president. Oh, well, what? They don't. They don't. And they don't. And so they, I mean, they would even brag about it when Trump first became president. They would go on, Komi and other people would go on interviews and they would say, you know, Mr. President, we're going to be here a lot. We were here before you. We're going to be here after you. Yeah. So they don't give a shit about the, I mean, they're just saying it out loud. They would say it out loud.

45:50And so, yeah, so people are conditioned. But isn't that just what happens when you have competitive human beings locked into these organizations that have extreme power? It's just you, you're always going to have that with human beings. These are like human behavior patterns. Yeah. That they always follow. It's just like our country is ending the way all empires end. We overextend ourselves militarily, which is, brings me to, what is that? You're smoking. It's a cigar. Oh, really? When I don't want a full cigar, I smoke one of these little tiny Monte Christos. Oh. It's a little baby cigar. Want a cigar?

46:24No. I smoke a real one with you. No, I did that once. And it made, cause I used to smoke cigarettes. And I'm like, oh, I could, everybody started smoking cigars at one time when I moved first move to Los Angeles. I was like, oh, I could smoke cigars. These are nice ones. Because Ron White turned me onto these. It woke up the beast and I started smoking cigarettes again. Yeah. No good. So I can't do it. I even quit smoking pot recently. Last September. I heard. You did? Yeah. Watch that video. It makes people sad when I say it on the stage. Oh, that's silly. That's silly. People go, oh, it makes them upset.

46:55And I'm like, you know, it really woke me up to a lot of things. I don't know. I don't even, people go, why? Why did you quit? I don't even know why I quit. Like, I feel like it was, I think it came from a higher power. Yeah. I know you were saying that too. I'm going to get a cigar. While we're talking. You're going to get a real cigar? A real cigar. Oh, okay. What made you go from the, I want a little one to a big one just now. I'm going to talk about something serious. Oh, okay. I like it. God damn it. Well, the thing that why I stopped is because it smells so fucking good. Yeah, but I see what your point is, though.

47:28And I see what you're saying. And there's a thing that can happen with marijuana or with anything that alters your state of consciousness. Including coffee, cigarettes, alcohol, everything. Is you're using that to sort of cope and exist. And you're not, you're not really being present. You're always being present under the influence of these things. And I've been guilty of that myself. You know, just sometimes you just want to catch a buzz. Just don't want to be here. I just want to have a couple of whiskeys. I don't want to be here. I want to be here, but just be. You know, sometimes the world's overwhelming.

48:03And I think you miss a lot if you live in that state. You miss a lot. Like one of the things that happens with people that have drug problems when they're young is they don't really mature properly. Because they spent, you know, 15, 16, 17 doing math, doing coke, party, and then by the time they get clean and sober, like they're grown up babies. Yes, that's well, they say that. They say that when your addiction starts, you stop, you get locked into that level of maturity that you're in until your addiction ends. Yes, and then you start growing. But now you're growing in a confused state. And you've also got this anxiety that's sometimes crippling.

48:42Because if you wasted a giant chunk of your life and not made any progress. And here you are a beginner at 35 years old. And you're out here in the world trying to like get a regular job at 35. And nobody wants to hire you because you've been in 15 rehabilitation centers. And you got locked up for stealing hubcaps, catalytic converters or whatever. It's like the thing that it does to you is it separates you from normal reality. And that could be a positive or a negative. If you have discipline and control in your present, and you really spend a lot of time thinking alone by yourself, and meditating, you can use things to alter your state of consciousness to achieve new thoughts.

49:22You tap into new ideas. Pot helped me a lot comedically. It helped me. It's comedy steroids. Yeah, it was a big deal for me. It took me from being, I was a very narrow and rigid comedian. And then it opened me up and it made me a much better comedian. So I can say, and it worked for a long time. And it didn't like take away my discipline. Like I still had lots of discipline comedically. And then doing my, when I started my podcast in 2008 or nine, and then my radio show and then the, so it never, I always always. You're OG, 2008 or nine. Yeah, yeah. You're up there with me then. We were like at the same time.

50:00Yeah. I started with Todd Glass. I started a show called Comedy and Everything Else. And we would interview comedians. And then I did like a hundred and fifty two episodes of that. And I just got tired of it. And then I started doing the Jimmy Dorshow, because I got a radio show on KPFK in Los Angeles, which is a public radio show. So it was all politics and comedy, you know. And so I just shifted over to that. And it was, it was a pretty popular. It still is the pop. I mean, it would get like 50 to 60 ,000 downloads per episode. But never sold tickets. Is the weirdest thing. And when I went on YouTube, that was immediately, I started selling tickets, immediately, immediately.

50:42And that's, you know, as you know, that changes your whole life. Yeah, the YouTube things, that's a different world. Everybody has it. It's on every phone. It's on everybody. If you have Apple TV, people, I watch YouTube more than I watch Netflix. Oh, no doubt. Oh, no doubt. Yeah, because if I watch Netflix, it's like, I want to watch Peaky Blinders. I sit down and watch it. You know, but if YouTube is like, let me just fuck around and see what's going on in the world of ancient archaeology. Let me watch a professional pool match. Let me see this new muscle car build. I get lost for hours. If I want to zone out, if I'm exhausted, and I just want to zone out.

51:17I've did everything that I have to do. I just want to just chill. YouTube. I go right to YouTube. Yeah. So, hey, Jimmy Doar. What's he talking about? Oh, I didn't know that. And then I'm watching you yell at Cornell Westerns. So, what the fucking person? And I'm like, this is a, Jimmy's a mad dog. I love how mad. I love having Kurt on the show because he gets upset for, you know, in some place. And then like, I get to be amused by it instead of me getting up. Yes. Oh, it's a perfect balance. Kurt's sitting there going, that's everything's a fucking sign up. Everything. Your whole life. Everything in the world.

51:46Okay. Everything. That's like at the two and a half hour mark in the show. Everything. Everything. Everything. And it just, it gives me joy. So, you were saying before I interrupt to do it, that you think that it was a higher calling that like quitting, quitting pot. So, I started, and when COVID happened, I started getting into Carl Jung and my unconscious and analyzing my dreams. And then I realized that the, that there is what Carl Jung calls God is a trans -personal self. And then he's the one who kind of figured out we have a collective unconscious. That's where all, so they're only his one conscious.

52:28I mean, you've done DMT and all sorts of you get all that. But he, he was able to give himself like a mushroom trip when he was conscious without taking mushrooms, right? And he would call it active imagination. So, he could go into his unconscious and confront all these things that, like archetypes and God that lives in your unconscious. And he had to have a person that was there to make sure he didn't go crazy. And so, he did this for like four years from like 1913 to 1917. And he wrote it down on a thing called the red book, which he would not allow to be published for 50 years after he died.

53:06Because he knew if people read it, it would discredit his work in psychology. Because it sounds crazy, all the shit. It's like, it's like he had mushroom trips and he would write it down, right? But it was real. And so, what he did, so, during those four years, he then spent the rest of his life trying to explain to people what he had learned in those four years in ways that they could understand it. And so, that's what the rest of his life was about. And they asked him, I remember they asked him, do you believe in God? He said, I don't believe in God. I know. And I was like, that's badass. And you could say shit like that.

53:44And so, anyway, I started to get into this. And so, he figured out that we have a collective unconscious because he would see these symbols in his dreams. And he knew that they were like meaningful, but he didn't know what they meant. And then he started to study alchemy, which alchemy isn't what you think it is. Alchemy was about turning a psychological lead into psychological gold. And they were onto a lot of shit. And they had to keep it secret because of the church, I guess. And so, they had to speak in code kind of. And so, he started to read alchemy and he started to see these symbols that were in his dreams that they had written about and they had already figured out what it meant.

54:20And he was like, well, how the fuck could I have a dream about something? I didn't know any, I never read this book before. I don't know what, how does, and that's how he started to figure that out. And so, that shit has happened to me. I'll see symbols in my dreams. This happened. So, I was, this is going to sound crazy. So, I'm in a jungle, in a clearing. And this creature comes over to me. It looks like a big ape. His body is like a big gorilla. But his head is like half of a lion, half human. And I'm like, what the fuck? And he puts his hand out. And I'm like, oh, he's going to crush me. But I put my hand in his hand.

55:00And he took my hand gently. And he walked me into the jungle. And I was like, what the fuck? So, I tell this to my, I have an analyst who, Jungian analyst, who helps me decipher what my dreams mean. And he said, you know, that's an archetypal God and that that was them telling you it's time for you to go into the jungle of your unconscious. But you'll be safe if you long. And I was like, oh, so then like a month later, I'm reading this book. And there's that fucking thing, the ape with the lie. I'm like, there's a public, what? That's the thing I saw in my dream. Like, how did that show up in my dream before I ever saw it before?

55:38I knew. I had the, so I'm having the exact same. Is there a drawing of this? It's a book or is it just description in Jung's book? It's called a Mithre God. That's what, that's what I, where I can't, I come to know. I was like, that's the fucking thing that was in my dream. So, there's also another thing called the Old Man. So Carl Jung talked about this a lot. Like, he would meet the Old Man in his dream, which was like a trans person herself for God. Yeah, like that. That's it. Wow.

56:10Yeah. So that's an archetypal character. Yeah. I'm like, how the fuck did that? You had no idea. And that thing showed up in your dream. Never seen it. Yeah. Wow. And so that's depicted all throughout history it looks like. I had no idea. So. How bizarre. I had this big decision to make in my life. And it was, so what Carl Jung says is that, you're unconscious, your trans -personal self, will create a scenario for you where there's no way out. There's no matter which way you go, you lose. So I was in one of those. And I had a dream. And I'm standing in line at a Starbucks at an airport. And this guy taps me and I see a shortcut.

56:56So whenever there's a shortcut, I'm going to get, I'm going to, because it's a long line. And so I figured out I can go over here and I can sneak and get in and get my coffee first, you know. And so I'm like doing that. And all of a sudden this taps and it's the old man with the gray hair that Carl Jung had talked about. I didn't know it at the time. And I just thought this, and this old man, he didn't say anything to me. He just grabs my hand and he points to the end of the long line. And I go, fuck you old man. Get away from me. What the fuck do you know? And, uh, whoa. Yeah. Well, now I, so I eventually did take the long line.

57:32In my, in my, not in the dream, but in my life. And as soon as I did every, so Carl Jung has another saying, he says you, the biggest problems in your life can never be solved. They can only be outgrown. And so I grew that. I was like, oh, so it happened. And so I've had these experiences. So what, but you didn't finish that thought. Like, what was wrong with the back of the line? Like, what did you realize by going to the back of the line? It's like, I don't want, it's, it's a little personal. So about the situation in my waking life. But I just knew that I had, what I had to do then. Right? Once I realized that that, oh, the old man, that was my transpersonal self telling me, you got to do this.

58:19And so it, I had an awakening. I grew this problem. Because it, you know, it was like they, you know, my, my, my, Jungian allows Allen's analysts to refer to it as, you know, you're on a crucifix right now. And the only thing you can do is hold, maintain, don't make a decision. Don't do one thing or the other. Just hold and then something will appear. And that, that, that's what appeared. It was in my dream. It coincided with the synchronicity in me reading a book about what I was supposed to do. I'm like, holy fuck. What do you think dreams are? So I think it's a mistake to dismiss them. I think dreams are the same consciousness that creates this waking life creates your, your dream life, right?

59:00And they're important. And if the more attention you pay to them, they're more, you'll get out of them. And the more it'll rise up to meet you. And so I keep a dream journal. I write down every dream I have. And you'll start to see patterns. And it's, I've had, so I was reading this book called The Undiscovered Self by Carl Jung. And it's amazing how it fits what's happening right now today. Right? And I tried to get to Bobby Kennedy to read it with me. But he says in there, you know how during COVID, how comedians flipped and all of a sudden you weren't allowed to question, you know, I did that bit about that you quoted before and you're not allowed to question and think for yourself.

59:43You used to be called reading. Yeah, you used to be called reading. Don't do your own research. Just reading. So now they're shaming me for reading, right? So Carl Jung talks about that you have a need. You have a psychological need for it to have an experience of the divine and a deity and all that stuff. And if you don't have that, you're going to create it. And so that's how those people, when I'm reading this book, I'm like, oh, that's what they did with COVID. They turned Fauci into a God. They turned science into a religion. Right. You can't question it. Right? So that I'm like, what? So they just projected.

1:00:19So Carl Jung's all about projection that we're projecting all the time. And that's how we get to know ourselves, right? So like when you fall in love with someone, that's the big, his big one is that you have a feminine side and inside of you. And it's called your anima. If you're a guy and if you're a female, you have a male. And that's called your animus. And when you fall in love with someone, like, oh, you know that thing. Like, oh, my God, I can't live without this person. This is the thing that I've been looking for. That's when you project that part of yourself. It's in your unconscious onto that person.

1:00:47And so that's a real religious experience. Because you're rejoining religion, meaning to rejoin. You're joining your conscious self with your unconscious self. And that's why it feels like you're being stimulated from the inside. Because you are. And you feel this oneness and this wholeness. And if I lose this person, I'll die. Right. And so that is what most people, that's why guys, and they're, and happens to guys in their fifties. And that's why a lot of guys leave their wife and they go for it. That's, it's fucking amazing how that happens, right? So that's, so that's all projection. And then eventually the projection falls off.

1:01:22And then people get divorced, right? Yeah. Interesting. So the religious experience is the combining of the two souls. The combining of your conscious self and your unconscious self, right? In someone else. And yeah, so you, in you experience it by projecting it on someone else. So, and that's, that's the phenomena. And nobody knows it. That's the phenomena of love, of the more romantic love, of romantic love, right? And there's this whole book. There's this, there's this old myth about Tristan and Isolt. And I read this whole book by this Jungian scholar that explains what it's all about. And you have to give up.

1:02:01And so by the way, I meet my anima in my dreams all the time. And it's unbelievable. It's fucking unbelievable. Yeah. So they have different people. How often do you remember your dreams? Every day. Really? Yeah. And so like to the point where if I'm going to have a session with my Jungian analysis, I'll take a nap. And I know I'll have a dream or two. And I'll wake up and we talk about it. I'm a good dreamer, especially when you quit smoking pot. And is that when the dream started? Or did you have dreams while you were smoking pot? I had dreams while I was smoking pot. But they're just more intense than that.

1:02:32Then they get, yeah, after you quit smoking pot, your dreams become vivid and intense. And over the top almost, almost too much, you know. But now it's gone back to normal level. So let me ask you this again, what do you think dreams are? I think dreams are spiritual. Whatever is in your spirit, whatever is, it's a God for lack of a better term. Trying to communicate with you and talk to you through symbols. Wow. That's what I think. I mean, I'm not an expert on this stuff. I just been into it for like the last four years. And I just know my experience. And so it is very strange. And so if you don't have an experience of the divine, you are going to create it.

1:03:18And that's what people did during COVID with science and Fauci and all that shit. They projected it onto that. And luckily enough, I've been having experiences of the divine through my dreams and my dream analysis. And then I also see it when you see synchronicities. Carl Jung talked about synchronicities, which are coincidences that have meaning. They're not just coincidences, right? And once you start to look for them, you see, you know, it's like when you buy a new car, you see that car everywhere. It's like once you start to look for synchronicities, they start to happen. So then it's like I'm constantly in communication with God.

1:04:00That's how I, that's how I, for lack of a better word, that's how I feel about it, right? And so everything happened that happens in my dreams and in my waking life comes from the same consciousness. Carl Jung said that the future can be set up, is set up by your unconscious long in advance, which is why it can be guessed that by clear avoidance. So anyway, so this book, the red book that he wrote down his experiences of those four years where he could give himself like a mushroom trip. He finally got published in 2010. And I'm not even able to read it. Like I just look at it, it's just like super confusing.

1:04:34And it looks like crazy talk. So what I do is I read books that he wrote up, trying, you know, after he had that experience. And I read books by other Jungian scholars explaining shit because it's, he's dense, man. He's very, he puts a lot of info in a little bit. Like it took me a week, just though, I was reading a book called the the Mysterium Canoncho that he wrote. And it took me like a week, just this opening paragraph, just to keep going on. Like, what the fuck? Yeah, I tried reading his book on flying saucers. Oh, really? Yeah, what does Carl Jung's book on flying saucers called? But he had this concept about flying saucers.

1:05:11He thinks they're, they're constructs of the mind. But not necessarily that they're not real. Is it very strange flying saucer? No, it's a modern myth. If you go to the back, like go back to where he was, a modern myth of things seeing this guy. Oh, really? Yeah. I've heard about this. See if you could find just a synopsis. What did, just right, what did Carl Jung believe about UFOs? See, does it say here? Okay. This is a late 50s, the high of the popular fascination with UFOs. Flying saucers is the great psychologist, brilliant, prescient meditation on the phenomenon that gripped the world. A self -confessed skeptic in such matters, Jung was nevertheless intrigued not so much by the reality or unreality, but by their psychic aspect.

1:05:58He saw flying saucers as a modern myth in the making to be passed down the generations just as we have received such myths from our ancestors. In this wonderful and enlightening book, Jung sees UFOs as visionary rumors. The center of a quasi -religious cult and carriers of our technological and salvationist fantasies. 40 years later, with entire religions based on the writings of science fiction authors, is remarkable to see just how right he has proven as proved to be. Wow. I'll have to read that book. Yeah. I think the best book to start with Carl Jung is Memory Streams Reflections, which is his biography, and he wrote.

1:06:38And that he lets you in on a little, because he was more than a psychologist. He was a mystic. Right. And it's made all the difference. I was, you know, I considered myself a Sam Harris atheist. I used to call myself, you know, because, and that was mostly a reaction to being brought up Catholic. And so I was rejecting religion. But at the same time, I was also rejecting spirituality. And I didn't realize it. But now because of this experience, I realize, oh, no, that, you know, it's just terminology. God is real. There is the, you know, your ego doesn't control things. Your ego needs, once you can make your ego subservient to the transpersonal self and you're unconscious, that's the key to life, realizing that you're just in the way.

1:07:31The way I describe it to people is that, you know, we're all part of consciousness. Consciousness is an ocean. And then there's a huge way, the part of the consciousness we see is the, is the wave. Right. And all I can do is surf that wave. I can't create that wave. I can't control it. I can't, all I can do is try to surf it as best I can. And by making yourself, you know, your ego subservient and keeping your eye on the transpersonal center, this is what Carl Jung talks about. That's kind of the key. It's very, unless you experience it, it's hard to understand. It's even hard for me to explain it.

1:08:08But it does make sense. It's like trying to explain a DMT trip I'm guessing. I've never done DMT. It does make sense that a person like that that is trying to understand how the human mind works, would have to take into account all sorts of bizarre things like UFO sightings, psychic experiences, dream states, endogenous psychedelic experiences through, like there's a bunch of different ways you can reliably achieve psychedelic states without any drugs. One of them that I've done recently, even, is holotropic breathing. And if you do holotropic breathing, you have what's like almost like a mushroom trip.

1:08:46What is that? It's Google holotropic breathing so you can get, I don't butcher the definition of it. But also a lot of people do breathing exercises in sensory deprivation tanks, which provides very vivid psychedelic experiences with no drugs at all. I did my first breathing exercise ever this morning. This is just talking about the study of it. There's a way to do, maybe I said the wrong word. So, a psychic breathing to induce psychedelic states. Just right, just right, breathing to induce psychedelic states. I'm going to use the wrong word.

1:09:31All right, here we go. Breathing their way to an altered state. Oh, yeah. Look at it. Yes. Right there in the festival. New York Times, January 10th, so you know it's a lie. Okay, what does this say here? So, do they call it holotropic breathing? Or am I using the wrong terminology? Okay, there it is. Vigorous modality known as holotropic breathwork is offered at the end of an eight month training. Eight months before they get you the holotropic breathing. To provide a lawful taste of the therapeutic potential and pitfalls of altered states of consciousness. So, Dr. J .J. Purcell, a naturopathic doctor from Oregon, was amongst the trainees who walked into the early October session skeptical that a couple hours of intense breathing could induce anything close to a psychedelic trip, but she was stunned.

1:10:19The depth of what I experienced was so similar to psilocybin, Dr. Purcell Marvel, referring to the psychoactive compound in magic mushrooms. It was trippy. So, you did that? Yeah, I've done that a bunch of times. And does it work? Yeah, it definitely works. Especially works in a tank or when you're lying in bed, when you're quiet. So, you just did a certain kind of breathing for hours? Yeah, Google, like what is the protocol for psych, for holotropic breathing? There's just like a specific way you're supposed to do it. But I can achieve some reasonable form of a psychedelic state by just concentrating on breath.

1:10:57I have this thing that I do, and I do it when I can't sleep. My mind is racing, right? So, I force my mind to concentrate on one thing, and that's in with the good, out with the bad. Those are the only words I allow in my head. So, as I breathe in, I go in, I lose track. I start thinking about, oh, I forgot to call that guy back. I start thinking, but then I get back to it. In with the good, out with the bad. In with the good, out with the bad. In long breaths.

1:11:34When I'm doing that, I'm only allowing those words in my head. The other ones are getting in there, but I'm pushing them out. Get out of the door. I'm the bouncer. And then, eventually, I can achieve this very strange state. It's a very strange state that with your eyes closed, you start seeing patterns. You see this weird, sort of, like, matrix, like, for lack of a better turn, almost like a geometric grid of the world. And you just keep calm. And usually, I fall asleep when I'm doing that. But I can stay awake and have, it takes a while. You might take 15, 20 minutes of doing that. But you get in there.

1:12:11And I know that people that do Kundalini yoga, I have a friend who did Kundalini yoga and he said, and he has also done TMT, he said, it is the exact same place. You can absolutely get there. You just have to be rigorous. You have to practice it for a long time. But they have a specific type of, like, nodding and bobbin they do with intense breath work that gets you to this endogenous dump of psychedelic chemicals. So one of the reasons why it's so insane that that sweeping 1970s psychedelic drug act took place, is not just that they used it to target civil rights leaders and anti -war movement people and the black panthers and anybody that was inconvenient.

1:12:50But also that it stopped us from being able to explore what these things are. So one of the terms that psychedelics use that people, they talk about psychedelics, it's one of the more lofty terms, is entheogen. And what entheogen means essentially, it's like this is something that connects you to God. Like what is the term entheogen? What is the actual, what is the literal translation of entheogen? But that this is what they think, here it is. A chemical substance is typically a plant origin that is ingested to produce a non -ordinary state of consciousness for religious or spiritual purposes.

1:13:29I think that's what most religions are based on. I think they're based on either an understanding of how to achieve psychedelic states endogenously, or people coming into contact with psilocybin, amadieta, mascaria, there's a variety of different things that they probably came in contact with. There's scholars out of Jerusalem now that believe that the interpretation from Moses in the burning bush, that the burning bush was probably the Akashitri, and the Akashitri is rich in DMT. Now it just completely makes sense that burning a bush that is rich in DMT would connect Moses to God, and God would give Moses these commandments for how mankind should live, that completely makes sense.

1:14:17Well, it's probably a psychedelic experience, and there's probably a bunch of different ways to get them. I think that's what monks are doing when they're spending the entire day, isolated, and meditating. I think they're achieving, I think that's why they're willing to keep doing it. I think that's why they're willing to stay. It's like, oh, those poor bastards, look at them, no pussy, dress like a retard. Look at them, this stupid fucking orange robe. But those people I think are connecting to something, some other state that is more exciting than this one that we're kind of trapped in. Well, I've had the experience of...

1:14:52I've only done mild doses of mushrooms in my life, maybe five or six times. And the last time I did it, I remember when I would close my eyes, it would seem more real than when I opened my eyes, was like, oh, everything seemed flat and really interesting. And when I close my eyes, I was like, this is the real thing. I'd like to stay here longer. So it's got to be what you said. That's why people are willing to sit in a cave and meditate every day. And because it's more real, it's a more... It's a more like a rich experience. I think we operate under the biological dimension. That's where our thing moves around under the biological dimension.

1:15:32And all of our senses are tuned into the biological dimension because it involves injury, and death, and illness, and crime, and injustice, and all these different things that can get you all ramped up in the biological dimension. But we're also connected to something else. And you can define that thing. You can call it things. You can call it heaven, the well of souls. You can call it a bunch of different things. I think calling it anything is a problem because we don't know what the fuck it is. But whatever it is, I think there's a bunch of different ones. And Terence, we kind of described it as a mandala.

1:16:04Like that there's like a mandala of different psychedelic experiences that the human body and the human mind is capable of experiencing. And that there's all sorts of different ones. You're going to a different neighborhood. And that these chemical gateways that get you into these states. That's what these psychedelic drugs are. We're looking at it like, oh, he's just escaping reality. I think they're chemical gateways. I think they're chemical gateways into other dimensions. And to some other realm that you cannot get there with this thing that's worried about, oh, I'm getting a belly. It's because you're ego.

1:16:43Yeah, ego. And just the reality of having to pay your bills and keep the lights on. There's just like too much weird shit here that distracts you. Joe Biden's fine. He's the best version of Joe Biden ever seen. And you're driving a work on it. I mean, the upside down world. This is like fucking stranger things. What is happening here? You're losing your fucking mind. And that all this does, all this chaos. This is like if the devil and God were real. This is the chaos. This is hell. The hell is this confusion. And this constant lack of peace. No one is there. Everyone's filled with anxiety. Well, Jesus said there's a quote that the kingdom of my father is laid upon the earth.

1:17:24But the eyes of men don't see it. So yeah, so we're creating our own hell. Right. And it's I think over identification with the ego mind, you know, which is different than, you know, you got you got a big ego. That's different. The ego mind is like what you're conscious of. Your idea of who you are. And then the things that you don't like, according to young, you split them off and you put them into your unconscious. So when people who hate Trump, like when you see people who have Trump to arrangement syndrome, that's because they're projecting that part of themselves that is like Trump onto him.

1:18:01And so then they can hate that. And that when you when you have a big reaction to something external, whether it's you love something intensely or you hate something intensely, that tells you it's about you. That's about because and so like I never hated Trump. I hated the system that got us Trump. Like that. So I tried to keep my focus on, you know, it was because Barack Obama bailed out the banks and kicked 5 .1 million families out of their homes. And then went on to give us a right wing fucking healthcare plan. It was a give away to big farm and insurance company. And he didn't really help.

1:18:30That's what let me laid the groundwork for people to go for someone like Trump that always does. So that that's what I show one. So when people hate the people who hate Trump the most are people who have split off that part of themselves that is Trump and put it in their unconscious. And then they're experiencing themselves as they projected onto him. We you know those people. I know a lot of those people. You know, like like Rob Rob Reiner, you know, like Bill Marr. Like there's lots of those people everywhere. And they you know, and then they just tell these fantasies about him. He's never going to leave.

1:19:06Oh, Robert's a Neuro. Yeah. Now Kurt Kurt's convinced that Robert's a Neuros on some kind of Epstein list or some kind of thing like that. And then he's afraid that when if Trump does get power, he's got to expose him. And he is actually going to come at him. Of course Kurt thinks that. That's a great thing. Good things about every fucking thing that happens in the world. I think that I think Rob Reiner was just a got Trump to Ranger and syndrome. I think he's old too. There's a thing about old men. And he's completely they want to yell at everybody. And he's completely that did you see when he went and gave that speech outside of the trial?

1:19:36That was bizarre. That was a good idea. And then he starts yelling at regular people. It's crazy. You're a gangster. Fuck go fuck you. It's crazy. That's the guy who attacks you driver. Yeah. You know what I also I think? I think those guys have no friends. I think the only friends they have are Hollywood phonies. And so you're in this weird world where everybody you talk to is a phony. And you become a phony and everyone's a phony. And your grasp on reality is very slippery. And your eyes are going, right? So your vision of the world, your actual vision of the world, your ability to read a phone.

1:20:07You ever see old people's text messages? The fucking text on their phone is like as big as my hand. It's crazy. And so your vision of the world is blurring literally and figuratively. And then you're getting old. And when old people are tired and cranky, they just want everyone to listen to them. And they don't have time to have a calm conversation and you state out your opinion. I'll state my opinion. Let's see where we have common ground. Get off my lawn. And that's what he's doing. That's what he's doing. He's being this old grumpy man that is so lost that he thinks it's a good idea to stand in front of a bunch of people on the street and give a speech on camera about how bad Donald Trump is.

1:20:46With all the shit that's going in the world. I know. All the craziness in the world. Right now the guy you're voting for, a lot of people consider is funding a genocide. Right? So you don't think that's horrible? Look what's, again, if he knew what was happening in Ukraine, people or people being slaughtered in Ukraine for what? And we just signed another 10 years of that. Yeah. Signed on for another 10 years worth what? $800 billion? So this is all money funneling operation. That's what Afghanistan was. And as Julian Assange proved or taught us that these wars aren't meant to be won, they're meant to be ongoing.

1:21:22Because they had a peace agreement. You know that. They had a peace agreement almost immediately after the invasion Russia invaded. They had a peace agreement. And that Ukraine agreed to it. Zelensky agreed to it. And they flew Boris Johnson out there and said, don't fuck, you can't do this or we're going to kill you. And so that's why you can't do it. And so that's why this war is ongoing. And they have to rip people off corners and put them in vans to go fight in this fucking war. The average age of the Ukraine military is over 40 years old. Have you seen the videos of guys getting kidnapped?

1:21:49Yes. I can't even watch it. Guys with their families. They just grab a guy. They just grab him. Grab him and people are screaming. They're throwing him in a van. You're going to go fight in the war. I think you lost the war when we already did. So they did. And then of course nobody knows how this war started. You've had Dave Smith on. He explained it. Yeah. You know, nobody, nobody still to the state knows about the Maidan coup that the United States got in bed with the right wing Nazis in Ukraine to overthrow democratically elected government. And then they started bombing the people in the east of Ukraine on the called the Donbass.

1:22:19And they wouldn't stop. They had two peace agreements called the Minsk Accords. Guess who violated them? Ukraine. It wasn't that. And so, you know, I've heard people say that. And of course it was the expansion of NATO, right? The threat of putting NATO on the border of Russia, which everybody from Kissinger to Chomsky and everybody in between said, that's a mistake. Don't do that. That's of course what they're doing. And so there's no, what's the point of NATO anymore? And then this whole idea they're doing the domino theory again. Oh, well, if he, if we allow him to do this to Ukraine, he's going to go to Poland next.

1:22:47And he goes, it's the same fucking shit they said all the time. It's the domino theory. And again, the world's terrorists are the United States. Look who we did to Iraq. Look who we did to Libya. Libya, the most successful country in all of Africa. The guy created the eighth wonder of the world with their, the way how he delivered water and turned deserts into farmland. And everybody had a house and everybody had education and a health care. And we turned it into a failed state run by terrorists with open slave markets. Who did that? Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton did that. And they'll never have to pay a price for that.

1:23:19Barack Obama, the most they'll do is go, that was a mistake. But why did they get rid of Gaddafi? Because he was going to start a currency of Africa just for, that was going to compete with the US dollar and the euro. And they can't have that. Because the way the United States controls the world is because the United States dollar is the reserve currency of the world. So that's why they can put sanctions on all these countries. And so what they're doing, which they shouldn't do, they're weaponizing the US dollar. And so, so like when countries want to trade with each other, they have to go take their currency, change it into US dollars so they can trade.

1:23:52And that was all, a lot of it was based on the petrol dollar, which by the way, Saudi Arabia is just quit. They didn't renew it. I don't know if you heard about that. Yeah, I did hear about that. So, and all of a sudden CBS News is starting to do news stories about how Saudi Arabia was involved in 9 -11. All of a sudden, 24 years later, all of a sudden, oh, you know what? Turns out it was talking about her. And they're like, she made two weeks after they decided to not renew the fucking petrol dollar. Now CBS News is allowed to talk about that and investigate, which when I talked about it, it got demonetized.

1:24:21But anyway, so that's why, because Qaddafi was doing that. He was going to set up a currency for all of Africa. And it was going to be based on, you could have a gold standard. And so they're like, no, you're not, you're not fucking doing that. And they made up a bullshit thing. Like, we got to save the people. They don't give a fuck about the people in America. They got veterans and everybody else living under every goddamn bridge in this country. You think if they gave a shit about those people, don't you think they'd start helping the people right outside the front door? Instead of, no, we got to go help people in Libya.

1:24:57And we got to help people. It's about helping people in Ukraine. And it's about helping people in Taiwan. And it's about, no, this is all about an upward transfer of money. This is about Balkanizing countries and turning it over to BlackRock and Vanguard. That's what this is about. Yeah. And we'll be right back. That's a good red. That's a solid red. Biden is sending 61 billion to Ukraine. Much of it will pass through the U .S. economy first. You mean, in weapons manufacturing and things like that? By the way, there's no oversight. Isn't it better to just say the U .S. economy? Why do you have to look at the bad side of things?

1:25:30But this is how they sell it to us. Like, no, no, we're actually investing in our own country. If you want to invest in our own country, why wouldn't you build fucking bullet trains? Why wouldn't you do that? Why wouldn't you build affordable housing for people? Because people can't afford. Now, you know, the new generation can't afford fucking houses. Why wouldn't you do things for people? Why wouldn't you give people health care that doesn't bankrupt them? Or an education that doesn't bankrupt them? Excuse me, I don't think you've read that our military aid to Ukraine is revitalizing manufacturing communities across the United States.

1:26:00The most inefficient way to stimulate economy is military spending. Now, I've known that for a long time. It's the lowest return on your dollar. It is a crazy spin. Because, yes, that is a great, that's how they're doing it. Now, that's how they're doing it. Well, you saw Lindsey Graham, I don't know if you saw this. He said that there's, you know, $15 trillion in natural and rare earth minerals in Ukraine. And if we don't get it, China's going to get it. And Russia's going to get it. So now, three years into this war, you're telling me it's about, why can't we just do regular economic shit and try to outcompete people?

1:26:37Because that's all this is. These are economic wars that they turn into. Fred Hampton said that politics is war without violence. War is politics with violence. Yeah. And so that's what these wars are. None of them are real. There's not what you think, therefore, that's all made up. And we keep falling. I can't believe people still fall for the Ukraine war. Well, they went into that so quick, they got rid of the... Well, Russia Gates set it up. And I was at the young Turks. I would tell those people, those knuckleheads at the young Turks, when they were Russia gaining... I go, you know, they're going to use this for a war.

1:27:12And that's exactly what... They knew they were doing that. They knew that they were doing... They were getting people mentally ready for a war with Russia. And by this... Right now, it's a proxy war with Russia. That's what this is. And of course, they did it. And of course, if you say something, they call you a Putin puppet. Just like you were at a sod toti. If you said something, the truth about Syria, like Tulsi Gabbard was saying. Or if you said the truth... I mean, if you said there weren't weapons of mass destruction, you were called a traitor. It's the fucking... It's the same playbook, and people fall for it every time.

1:27:46And it's because we are the most propagandized country in the world. You think China is... You know, when people in China watch the news, they know it's propaganda. And the old Soviet Union, people knew that was propaganda. The difference between that and now is people in America. They think they're watching the news when they turn on Fox, CNN, MSNBC. And isn't it weird? It doesn't... It never clicks to anybody that when Rachel Maddow and Sean Hannity are telling you the same thing about Ukraine. Does that... Something will go open. My spidey sense is like, oh, this is fucking bullshit. Yes, it is.

1:28:16Yes. When they're telling you the same thing about COVID or vaccines or lockdown. Does your spidey sense go up that this has got to be bullshit? So they all agree again, just like the Republicans and Democrats. They all agree on the worst of things, right? They all agree on war. They all agree on screwing workers. They all agree on keeping us having the most expensive healthcare in the world. They all agree on not doing anything to fix homelessness and not vaccinating or investing our own infrastructure. But they... So they agree on all the worst things. It's like having two divorced parents. But they both agree on sending you to military school.

1:28:53Yeah, it's a conundrum, for sure. But don't you think that more people are aware that it's bullshit than ever before? I hope so. I think COVID woke up a lot of people. I think it did too. And I think it shows like yours and these shows that are online now that aren't beholden to a corporation that are independent shows that can actually connect the dots with knowledgeable people that actually understand the history behind everything. It's just a different world now. You know, even with YouTube, Joe, it's amazing how many people tow the company line. They towed the company around one Ukraine war.

1:29:25They towed the establishment line around COVID and vaccines and shamed anybody for it. It was just amazing. I'm like, what the fuck is going? So there's like, there's only maybe a couple of places that you can get reliable news even in independent news, right? Yeah. The Grey Zone had to debunk. They debunk everything and... The Grey Zone? Yeah, this Max Blumenthal and Aaron Mate. Okay. Yeah. And they helped to bunk Russia gate. They helped to bunk the Syria gas attacks. Aaron Mate did extensive work on that. I was first. But, you know, I'm a dumb guy. I have to take credit where I can, you know.

1:30:06And... How did you debunk that? I knew because Robert Fisk had done reporting on the ground. He was one of the most decorated war reporters in Europe. And it didn't make any sense on its face. That Assad, who was winning the war at the time, would do the one thing Barack Obama said if he crossed that red line and used chemical weapons. He would then go do it. And he only killed like 50 people at a time with a chemical weapon. So why the fuck would he do that? Of course, that was a false flag done by... And then the OPCW whistleblow. So the OPCW, which is the organization for the prevention of chemical weapons, right?

1:30:39And so they used to... We used to be considered, you know, nonpartisan and non -captured. And they would go in and they would... If there was a chemical weapon used, they would go in and they would give do a report. Well, they... Of course, they got captured, right, by NATO in the billionaire class. And so they go in and they do their report. And they're like, oh yeah, it was Assad, he did it. But then whistleblowers came out and said, no, that's not what happened. They suppressed the engineers report. They suppress this report. These canisters were laid there. This wasn't dropped from a helicopter.

1:31:10So it was all bullshit, right? So, of course, Assad didn't do that, right? And so I was on to that first. And then Aaron Matek came back and he did meticulous reporting on it. He's written at least 10 articles on it, which nobody will ever debunk. Nobody... Because they can't, right? And he... So anyway, so... And Rechegate... I knew immediately Rechegate was bullshit. Because I brought on Bill Benny, who was the number... NSA's number one code breaker for decades and decades. And he came on and he explained to me that there's... They didn't hack into that DNC server that was downloaded locally, right?

1:31:49And now we know that's... How much shit... They wrote a smear piece about me and watched him post because I was asking logical questions about what happened with Seth Rich. Hey, like, where was he? Well, from the time he left the bar to the time he got home... You're not allowed to ask ethical questions about a guy that WikiLeaks said... ...leaked them in formation. DNC was conspiring to keep Bernie Sanders out of the primary. You're not allowed to. I remember I was... So they wrote a sm... The Jeff Bezos hired a guy at the watched and post to smear me over that, right? And they did... I have Jeff personally involved.

1:32:24And... Well... I think Jeff's busy. I mean, it was his paper, but I mean... How much time do you think he's spending at his paper? I don't... I don't... But why do you think he bought that paper? You think he bought that paper because he wants to inform people about what the billionaire class is up to, Joe? Super profitable. It's not. It's not. It makes billions of dollars a year. No, in fact... No, it does really well. It only tells the truth. In fact, the... The head of the watched and post went into the... Additor... All right, went into the newsroom. Just like a month ago. And I don't know how...

1:32:56I got leaked out that he said, Hey, nobody's reading your shit anymore. People are done with the corporate news, hopefully. Yeah. Right? And they're... Well, that's why you saw that... Oh, I can't think of her name. That idiot for the watched and post who covers social media. She's the... Kill the rents. Yeah, the 40 -year -old teenager. Yeah. And she did a TikTok about how... I don't know... People... You don't know what the... People don't understand what the country is going to look like without these corporate journalists. Because they just fired like 10 ,000 of them. And I go, I know what the country is going to look like.

1:33:27I'm going to wake up every morning. And an animated blue bird is going to land on my shoulder. And we're all going to break out into song. Okay. Yeah. Because corporate news is fucking nothing but bullshit propaganda. We've known this forever. Right. And if you can... But people keep falling for it. I think... People don't think that independent news can replace it, but I 100 % think it can. And I think there... It has more of a likelihood of doing that. Because if you can get independent journalists that now they can develop substacks and podcasts, and they can go and do things on their own. And they get funded.

1:33:59They don't need anyone else anymore. But you see how... So then they can tell the truth, right? So they're not beholden to some enormous corporation. If a podcast had a building like CNN's building in Atlanta, I'd start getting nervous. I'd be like, hey, how much overhead is this? Yeah. How are you guys paying the bills? Right. You get so many people working here and you show sucks. You have nobody watching and there's so many... This is a fucking disaster. Like, what are you guys doing? They just closed their Atlanta building. Did they? Yeah. Yeah, of course they did. How would they have another building open?

1:34:29How do they have any buildings open? I don't know how to... Imagine a show that gets a podcast, that gets that few views. But as... Who knows how many hundreds of employees, giant buildings, on an airport so you get zero views. Nobody gives a fuck. I mean, it's a crazy business model. And Don Lemon started his own YouTube channel and... It's wonderful. Nobody's watching. It's wonderful. So I got invited on that show. So I got invited on that show. And I turned it down a few times and my assistant was like, hey, look, they really want you to do this show. And so I was talking to my friend, Jackson Hinkel, and I said, yeah, Don Lemon keeps inviting me on the show.

1:35:05He goes, you gotta go! And I'm like, it would just be me trying to insult him. You know, it would just be me saying how shitty he is and how he's the... You know, because I just got done doing a rant about Chris Cuomo talking about Ivermectin, but still lying about it. And he goes, yeah, that would be fun to watch you do that. And I go, okay, I'll do it. So I told my assistant, I could tell him I'll do the show. So we set it up and I go, just me, I go, I'm not going on with anyone else. I'm not having a debate with another asshole, and Don Lemon. I go, I'll just go on with Don Lemon. And they agreed to it.

1:35:35And so the morning we were supposed to do this show, and our show, just me, they canceled. Really? Yes. Interesting. Yeah. And so I, maybe because Don Lemon's like, oh, who am I interviewing today? And then he Googled me, he's like, no, we're not. And that was right. When I did a video, you know, calling out Chris Cuomo for being a lying piece of shit, that went kind of viral. All right. So Chris Cuomo probably called up. They probably talked. They probably homies. He probably saw that video. Yeah. He probably went to, you know, put, put in Jimmy Dora on Twitter and that comes up. Well, he should be, if he wants to become successful, being an independent person, he's going to have to engage in conversations that people he disagrees with.

1:36:18He still, he still calls the truth about COVID conspiracy theories. Yeah, he's a fool. He's a fool. He's a genuine fool. He's one of the, he's one of those guys, hypermectants, horse paste. Uh, he's, uh, the, the, the lab theory is racist against Chinese people. Uh, the. So he had a whole episode with Sanjay Gupta after Sanjay Gupta came out here. Admitted that they were lying about hypermectant. And then they tried to pretend that they were. But it is horse medicine. It was used for human beings for 12 fucking years before they ever used it for veterans. Before they ever used it for veteran medicine, Don Lemon, you fucking moron.

1:36:53It's just so the, the, the, the idea that these talking heads who they had on CNN should be some sort of a moral compass and an ethical compass for the rest of us is so fucking stupid and so insulting, especially when you see these people on their own. So when you see these people on your own, their own, like when you see Dave Smith, debating Chris Cuomo and just fucking nuking him. And then you see Don Lemon doing his show and you go, okay, this is who you guys are for real for real. Yeah, this is the real for real. When you see fucking Brian Stelter doing that W .E. Hiking up his skirt for those lizard people.

1:37:30The whole thing is like, this is who you really were. This is, this is you guys. And you surviving on your own in this independent platform. Good luck because this platform is transparent. They're going to see you for who you are. No producers, no fucking scripts that you're going to read off of. That shit won't even work in this realm. It doesn't work. So, so that's my, so I have this dream to produce a show that would compete with Bill Marr. Cause I, I don't know if you've ever seen, I do live shows, right, with a panel and, and a live audience, right? So it's kind of like Bill Marr, but it's funny and it's accurate.

1:38:04You know, so it's the, and so that's why I'm like, and so I've been pitching it to rumble. You know, rumble is great. Sure. And so thank God for rumble because I don't have to ever worry about being censored. Right. The rumble's great. They've been out in front on the free, like we're not going to censor you whatever the fuck you want. That's, that's up to you. They're great. It's up to you and your audience. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, but God. And so I travel around the country and nobody's fucking heard of rumble. I mean, I mean, except more people have now than ever before. People are starting.

1:38:30And so I tried to talk to them and they're like, hey, why don't you finance a show and a sound stage for me. And we could compete with Bill Marr. And instead of real time, we'll call it rumble time. And put it, we'll put a billboard up in Times Square and right across the street from where Bill does his fucking show. And we'll, and this is, you know, it's a be like a mark. It's a good idea. And for, and they were on board and the, but I guess there was too much money. I don't know. I don't know how much money they have. It wasn't that much. It's like, I got it down to like 90 ,000 in episode for like a real thing that would look exactly as good as Bill Marr.

1:38:59Would you know that cost a couple million dollars in episode? And would you do it in front of an audience? Yes. Of course. I've got your show. Like your standup shows. Yeah. So I, so I do those. I travel with that show. I do a video show hooked up to my computer. And it's kind of, it's kind of a mixture of the daily show and Bill Marr show. I have a panel. And we have the comedy. I've seen it. It's very funny. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I do that. I'm going to, uh, the next time I'm doing it in Chicago in August, right before the convention, I got press credentials.

1:39:35Oh my God. I can't. I shouldn't say anything. Yeah. I probably shouldn't totally. I said to say anything. Oh my God. It's done. Well, you're a real journalist. You should get press credentials. Uh, I was there in 2016. Of course, they didn't have any conventions in 2020 because of COVID, right? So, but 2016, I went to the Republican and the Democrat. And that's where I met Alex Jones. Yeah. That's hilarious. That video is hilarious. Um, it's hilarious in retrospect. Um, it was, I guess at the time too, but, um, yeah, it's nice that we've made up and, um, yeah, the Alex Jones thing is strange. It's amazing how, how right he is about shit.

1:40:12How he's right. He's way more accurate than corporate news. That's for sure. But he got that one thing wrong. The one thing wrong thing. Well, he's got another things wrong, but that one thing was a big one. Yeah. That one thing changed. Maybe they did. I mean, it could have been that they did. I mean, I do think that that is something that does happen. One of the things when something happens is people. And then I don't know if it's human beings or if it's groups, or if it's foreign groups, they will concoct a fake narrative and try to get people to share it. Like they'll try to fool people into sharing a fake version of some real thing that happened.

1:40:51And I think they do that to undermine people that are conspiracy theorists that are occasionally correct. So if you can get a conspiracy theorist who's occasionally correct and get them a bunch of bad information, foolish information and convince them on a website, polls get a bunch of people involved that also believe it. I think that's where Flat Earth got started. And you get all these people sharing things and believing things. And then if this person, they take the bait. And they'll go, this is what we're hearing. We're hearing this as a false flag. And then next thing, we got them. We got them.

1:41:25And if you're a guy like Alex Jones, who at the time was legitimately experiencing what you would call a psychotic break. He was breaking. You know, the guy was drinking like crazy. And you know, when you're uncovering real conspiracies all day long every day, which is what he does. Nothing seems crazy. Everything seems possible. The whole fucking world seems topsy -turvy. Nothing makes sense. He fucked up. But he's right. So often, if you look at what CNN is fucked up on, how come they're not in trouble for the weapons of mass destruction? Which, which, which, how come that in trouble for rushigate?

1:41:58How the, how come not in trouble for so many? Which fuck up do you think is bigger? The one that Hillary and Barack Obama did in Libya? Yeah. Or Alex Jones. Which one do you think is bigger and worse? Yeah, one of them seems bigger. Yeah. But it's also like the news. The news. When they were lying about certain things. How much damage did they do? I've always said this, that imagine if the news people were skeptical about the vaccine. The news people were skeptical about not being able to use off -label medications at a doctor's discretion. Especially ones that have been actually shown to stop viral replication in vitro.

1:42:36And there's a history of success in using these things in other countries. Like Erder Pradesh in India. There's a bunch of different things that were going on simultaneously. And yet, there's still being stopped. Wouldn't the real news, the real news, imagine? If the real news is like, hold on, it seems like there's special interests involved here. And there's a financial incentive to push this one thing. Which is what they have to do in order to get the Emergency Use Authorization Act. They can't be any valid pharmaceutical drugs that are available currently that we could prescribe. That's the only way you can get some new thing to pass through.

1:43:09Imagine if that was the news and podcasters were like, it's safe and effective. If you get it, you won't get sick. If you get it, you won't share it to anybody else. The virus stops with you. And then there are no, there's none. All these talk about side effects, it's not true. It's not true. I've never seen a single person that had a bad reaction to this new experimental gene therapy. Imagine if it was the podcasters, we would all be in the news. We would all be getting sued. They would use it to shut us down. That would be the misinformation that they would feed us to get us to say stupid shit.

1:43:47So that we would endanger people's lives and ruin people's health. And they would shut us down. 100%. And I just, how are they not suspect of an industry that has immunity from lawsuits if their product harms people? In the history of the humanity, that's the only one. And you go, well, why did they pass the law? That's good. Well, because they're safe. Well, that doesn't make any sense. That's not true. If they were safe, you wouldn't need to fucking pass that law that gave immunity from lawsuits. But literally when they were trying to figure out why they needed this and they were saying, why don't you make vaccines safe?

1:44:25The literal explanation was it is impossible to make them entirely safe. So what you're saying is they're not entirely safe. Well, you're going to injure some people. Almost all medications. Of course. If you give them to enough people, you're going to have side effects. And then when you have a new one, and then when you understand how they're allowed to do studies, and how they're allowed to throw out all the studies that show it does harm, or it doesn't work, or it's not effective, and then you fucking finagle the numbers in a way that you can push it. I think we're going to see a real improvement here.

1:44:55They're like, OK, run with it. Go! And then the money starts rolling in. Yeah, and that's how they capture the news because Bill Clinton let them in 1997. I think they passed the law that let big farmers. Now, most of the funding for news comes from... So of course, they get to... So they're not... So what I'll say is that when you see Boeing advertising on Meet the Press, or Pfizer advertising on CNN, they're not funding the news organization's investigation. They're funding their non -investigation, right? They're like, but this is money, so you don't fucking investigate us. Exactly. And the people who do, like my friend Anita Krishnan and Canada A, she worked for a...

1:45:35I forget the name of the global news. There's some big news network in Canada A. And so she started to ask just regular questions. And she got fired. And she videotaped her session where they fire her, you know, like they... Hey, why are you... She's like, isn't that what we're supposed to be doing? We're a news organization. Aren't we supposed to be asking the questions? Why there's all these miscarriages that are happening at the... Aren't we supposed to be asking about the explosion of... Aren't we supposed to be asking these questions? Isn't that what we do as a news organization? And she got fired for that, of course.

1:46:08Yeah. And so... Here's the latest thing. But don't you think that this craziness is good for us? Oh, yeah. Well, I wouldn't have a show if the new... If CNN and MSNBC... Not just us, but us as a population. Because it's so stupid that we get through it and then more people wake up. I hope so. Because I think... I think it's the only way we are going to really know who's pulling the strings. I keep bumping in the... You know, I go to comedy clubs and... You live in LA. That's the problem. You've got to get out. Texas is a different world. Is it really? A hundred percent. Wait till you come to the community tonight.

1:46:38The comedy community here. Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. You just wait, sir. Really? Yeah, you're in for a time of your life tonight. Yeah, it's wild out here. All right. It's wild. It's different world. Like I said, I didn't say that in Hollywood just last week and the comedian after me called me an anti -vaxxer. I was like, you're fucking kidding me. It's so dumb. It's so dumb. What does that even mean? It's such a dumb... I took the fucking back, asshole. It's so dumb. Anyway, but there's this new thing, Joe, so I found out. So when I quit smoking pot, I couldn't sleep and I thought I was going to die.

1:47:14But for some reason, I didn't go back because if you don't get sleep, it's the worst thing in the world. I would sleep for two hours. I would fall asleep and wake up. Whoa. And I was like, and so I was told about this thing called H -G -B. H -C -G? No. H -G -B. I guess it was... It brought... It came to America in the 90s. I just did a video about it.

1:47:39And it's the ultimate sleep medicine. So the problem with the sleep medicines now is that they don't... They don't give you a restorative sleep. They just kind of knock you out like an anesthetic, right? So when you wake up, you're still fucking groggy and tired and you don't have that. You don't have all the shit that sleep does for you, right? That's the problem. But this wasn't patented and it was easily made. You can compound it easily and compounding pharmacies and... Wait, bodybuilders should use it. Oh, yeah, yeah. And then they said it was a date rape drug. Yeah, G -H -B. G -H -B. Yeah.

1:48:09That's it. And they've used this treatment for narcolepsy. Yes. So that's the only thing it's approved for now. You have to only certain doctors can prescribe it. So what they did, this is what they did. So not only did it help you with sleep, restorative sleep, but it helped you with human growth hormones. You got older and it helped you with bone. It's almost like a miracle drug, kind of like Ivermectin, right? And it's the same thing. In fact, I just read this. It's very potent, right? If you take too much of it, you get bonked out, right? I guess, hey, if you drink a kega whiskey, you'll do the same thing.

1:48:38I would say take the right dose. Yeah, I think people said that to me. They go, you know, if you take an overdose of it, it's bad. Well, then I would not take an overdose. I think people have drugged women with this before. So this is the date rape drug. This is the propaganda, Joe. So I just read this article. There's this guy called a Midwestern doctor. He's got this sub -stack. He's fucking awesome. A pure quarry tweets him out all the time. And I don't know if it's a guy or a girl, actually. It's just called a Midwestern doctor. And he did deep dive into GHB. Yeah. That stuff. And that's how I know all about it.

1:49:08Right. And they did the same thing. In fact, in one of the subtitles of his article, it says they did the same thing that Ivermectin, what they did to Ivermectin, they did this. And so they all got together and said, hey, this is a rape drug. Even though we're HIPNOL was the rape drug. It wasn't. Yeah. Yeah. And guess which one got banned? This one, because it actually works. So you can't get GHB? You could still get the roofies because the people that made it lobbied the government to not get it made illegal. Isn't that fucking ironic? Yes. What is roofing all for? Who knows? Legitimate use. But that, I don't know.

1:49:45But that's what I read in that Midwestern doctor's article. And he explains it all. It is mind -blowing. And so I was trying to get some of this, right? You can only get it underground, right? So there's certain doctors that make it in certain parts of the country and they give it to soldiers who have PTSD. And they do it, but if they get caught there in trouble, because they made it a Schedule One drug. Wow. Yeah. Cocaine Schedule Two, right? So it's even worse. So, and I've asked my doctor for it like I can't do that. Wow. I can't even tell you where to get it, because I'll get in trouble. And so I found a guy who said he could get it for me, but I had to put a, I had to set up a proton male, then I had to get Bitcoin, and I had to do this.

1:50:24Jesus. And by the time all of that kind of came together, my sleep had come back. So now. So now, I don't, but they, gay guys would use it. It's illegal. It is. No, it is illegal. Oh, is it? It's sold in some countries. I'm saying it wrong. It's Rohipnall. Rohipnall, yeah. It's sold in some countries as a sleeping pill, but it's illegal in the United States, because it can cause extreme drowsiness or blackouts, often used in date rapes. Oh, okay. Yeah. So it's illegal. It's sold under the brand name Rohipnall. Benzo diazepine. Oh. Hmm. It's a benzo. Uh -huh. Okay. And so this GHB bodybuilder is using it because it helps him recover.

1:51:04Yeah. And help, and again, create, creates growth hormone. Makes sense. And it's great for people who are aging, and so now, now you can't get it. And because they couldn't. These mother fuckers. These were the same thing with them. Someone needs to give that to Biden. Maybe I'll help him. Don't you love that. Don't you love the bullshit they would say about? Like Chris Cuomo said this when he was talking to Dave. But he goes, well, the people who make Ivermectin, they say it doesn't treat COVID. You know why? Because it's off patent. You fucking asshole. And they can't make money off it. So now anybody could make it.

1:51:35And it's pennies. Yeah. That's why you don't know that newsman. Yeah. How the fuck did Dave Smith? I guess Dave Smith didn't know, but I mean, sitting next to that guy, how did he keep his cool? I wanted to just Dave Smith was such a, like, he's so level -headed while that was going on. I was like, how the fuck did Dave Smith not lose his fucking mind? Talking to that guy. It was glad that it's good that there was a live audience there. Yeah. But in the live audience, it's like bullshit. Bullshit, dude. And when you see him say, I didn't do it. I didn't say that. And then there's a video clip of him saying.

1:52:06I'm saying it. How does he not know that? And then he goes, well, this was, he says that this was the information that we were being given. Yeah. And you're supposed to go out there and debunk the information you're being given by the government and big pharma. You know, it's just supposed to fucking repeat it. If you just did one Google search of what is everything. Oh, fuck. They said he wouldn't do that. That's all you had to do. One Google search. It doesn't take five minutes. It takes 30 seconds. And you're like, oh, it won a Nobel Prize for that event. For human medicine? Oh, my God. It's one of the safest drug profiles ever observed.

1:52:34Oh. Ever. Ever. Safeer than Tylenol. How crazy was it when Rolling Stone had that article about... Oh, Rolling Stone is the worst. Waiting in line at the emergency room for gunshot wounds because so many people were overdosing on horse medication. And they were all wearing coats in August and Kentucky. How are those people not in trouble? How are they not in trouble for that? Because how many people... Well, it's just like... You could have gotten Ivermectin and gotten over COVID and didn't get it. Well, it's not even saying that it works. Well, it's just saying some people think it works. Some people that are fucking doctors like Pierre Quarry.

1:53:06Certainly. It's certainly working. 87 different... I mean, there's like a bunch of different randomized controlled trials that shows efficacy. And that's another thing I learned is that they... The people who do the test. So the medical journals are also corrupted by Big Pharma. And so what they'll do is... Oh, we're gonna do a study on Ivermectin. Turns out it doesn't work. Well, you look, they do the study. They set it up to fail. Right? They give it to a person a week after they already got sick. You're supposed to give it to him right away. They give it to him in way smaller doses than they're supposed to.

1:53:36And then they did one. Where they gave him to way higher doses. So they were toxic. So they were doing... So that's what... It's a fucking scam. So the medical field is just as bought by the same people as your corporate news is. So we're all walking around in a big propaganda fucking machine. And nobody knows it. They think they know... And they get so righteous. And they come... You know, it's... The crazy thing is doctors buying into it. And when you realize that you can't trust them for medical advice, you're like, wait, what? When you have a doctor telling you that you should get vaccinated after you just got over being sick.

1:54:08And you were only sick for a couple of days. And you have two people that you know that had strokes from the vaccine. And you're like, wait, what? Who gets vaccinated for a virus they already had and got over? Nobody. That's in the history of whoever. Right? Yeah, nobody. My parents. But nobody else. I know people, I know comedians. And that's... Oh, I know a bunch of comedians. That was the heartbreak. The heartbreak. I was always so proud to be part of the comedy community or the brotherhood and whatever. You know, we... It's a certain kind of thing, right? We talk in dark terms to each other.

1:54:36We say the most inappropriate shit to each other. But it's just all flipped. I mean, some of my favorite comedians, some of my best friends. They just fucking went mental. And then they attacked me. Yeah. And they just... They're not really your friends anyway. They're a bunch of narcissists that all live in this stupid bubble where they're trying to get validation from people by virtue signaling. That's all those people were. A bunch of cowards and weirdos. And they all turned on everybody. And they generally turned on people that are more successful than them. That's what they... That's what it's really all about.

1:55:06The heart of it. It's signaling to your tribe that you are compliant, you're a part of the group think. And then attacking the people that are above you that are doing more successfully, that are more successful with their career than you. That's all it was. Well, all the people that did it are all terrible comedians. They're all mediocre, sad, narcissists that wish they got more attention than they got. They think they got... They didn't get what they deserved. They think they should be getting more. They're angry at people that are getting attention. They don't understand success of other people.

1:55:37And they get... He's an anti -vaxxer. He's an anti -vaxxer. Oh, that's what's going on. That's why he's got millions of views. Is that sort of... Is it really that what it is? It is an amazing that every day there's a new study... There's a new study from South Korea that just came out that said the Vax is... There's a link between the Vax, the COVID Vax and Alzheimer's. So... And still to... And nobody will talk about it. Where are the comedians coming out with the... Like the same people who always were debunking the COVID narrative are still... There's no one that's jumping on board. It's just that I'm telling you, brother.

1:56:08It's just LA. Is it? Yeah, you come to Texas. That green room's lit. We talk about everything. Okay. No, there's no political correctness. It died here. It's dead. Really? It's dead. I thought it was being read in Austin. It doesn't exist. Austin... Like my friend Brian Simpson has a brilliant joke about it. And I'm not going to quote it. But it's... What he's essentially saying is that this... It appears that this is a liberal city. Because you're surrounded by red Texas. But the liberal here is regular or liberal. It's like what we are. Yeah. What you and I are. Like regular, reasonable people who are kind.

1:56:46Not like crazy, like... Narrative and force. Yeah. Maybe it should be trans. You know, all that shit. That's not here. Like this is a different version. Because it's so tempered. Like one of the things they always say about Austin is keep Austin weird and surrounded. So when people say weird, weird is okay. But keep it weird and surrounded. You're surrounded by ranchers with guns. You know this fucking hard working people that aren't buying any bullshit because they get up at 5 .30 in the morning and take care of their cows. Like they're not fucking around here, man. These are... There's a different kind of people.

1:57:21And they're nice and they're informed. And that's the thing about this town. That's different. It's like... It's... They're much more informed. You're gonna get your liberal loonies here. You get your people walking on this street with masks on. You get a lot of crazy shit here. You get your free Palestine marches. And you know, you get a lot of nutty people. But it's a more tempered environment. Like people are more reasonable. How about the... So there are comedians in Los Angeles who wear a mask into the green room. And then they take it off when they go on stage. Right. They're all terrible.

1:57:54They're all terrible. Do you think the coronavirus is respectful of stage time? No, it is. No, it is. It's the lights. The lights. They kill the virus. So here's the one good thing. You know, I'm talking about my dreams. So I've had this happen more than once. I'll have a dream. We're one of my biggest haters. Someone who attacks me on public and social media and stuff like that. I'll meet them in my dream. And I don't have any animosity. But what I can see in them is where their hatred for me comes from. And it comes from their pain. And their insecurity. And a lot of time it's jealousy. Like you were saying.

1:58:34And I can see it. And so I don't have any animosity towards them in my dream. And I have compassion for them. Having compassion for someone who hates you. I have it. And then when I wake up, it doesn't go away. It stays with me. And it's like this gift from my unconscious. My transpersonal self got. It's a gift. Yeah. And so it's like. That is a gift too. It really is. I literally have compassion for the people who hate me the most. What a fucking gift. It's beautiful. Because it'll eat you up. It's still sad. I'm not a hunter. You know me. I'm not 100%. It's no bothers me sometimes. Yeah. But I've had it.

1:59:11I've had a dream about that guy. Yeah. That guy just said, I had a dream about him. Yeah, that guy. I give him a hug if I saw him. Despite he said awful things about me. He's just a sad man. Just a sad pathetic man. And that's okay. That's your burden in this life. You're going to go to the grave as that guy. And everyone's going to know. You're this irritant that's in the air. You're a fart. That's in a locker room. You're a problem. This is your choice. You've decided to be this very unpleasant, very anxiety -ridden, very mediocre artist who's out there yelling and screaming into the abyss on Twitter.

1:59:51Well, that's your burden. This is what you're going to have to go through your life with. And I don't envy you. And I'm not even mad at that guy. I feel sad. Yeah. They wear that mask, bro. It's a fucking mega hat. That's a mega hat for Democrats. It's unbelievable. And then you see people. I'll still see people today that choose to wear a mask. And then they wear it under their nose. That's my favorite. Are you going to be fucking? It doesn't work anyway. If you want to be anti -science wear a mask. That shit does not work, especially a surgical mask. Get the fuck out of here, you moron. It's so stupid.

2:00:28A surgical mask. It's so stupid. You don't even know what a surgical mask is for. It's to keep particulates from people's mouths when dropping into wounds. That's what it's for. Yeah. It doesn't stop anything from respiratory, like a respiratory virus and going in. They go, I've had people say, oh, why did you go tell the doctors? Because all the doctors wear a mask. I go, yeah, in the operating room. So shit doesn't fall out of their mouth into an open wound. When you know when they come over before you go into the operating room, the doctor comes over to talk to you. He takes his mask off. He talks to you.

2:00:57Remember that? They don't fucking have it. It's so stupid. It's so stupid. It's like it's so childish. But yet it became official doctrine. Just like the six foot distance thing. Just made up. And so all I wanted to say. So we've seen Fauci lied to Rand Paul twice about funding the gain of function research. I've been down the chain. You mean the people you hired? And so he lied to Congress twice at least about that, right? And then everything else he just lied about. But there will be no consequence. That's the thing that's unsatisfying. It's good just to watch them confront them. The congressman that we're confronting him.

2:01:35Isn't it interesting though that the same thing happened to him with AIDS, right? So if people forget there's that movie called The Dallas Buyers Club. Yes. And Matthew McConaughey won the goddamn Oscar for that movie. Yes. And the bad guy in that movie, Dr. Fucking Fauci. And so you know Matthew McConaughey knows that. Yeah. Why does it he say something? I think he wants to keep working. That's exactly it. That's exactly it. You got to keep your head down. You can't go with it. If you go Woody Housen, people... Yeah. They automatically write hip pieces on you. I love that guy. I love that guy too.

2:02:04When he did that thing on Saturday Night Live, they started writing hip pieces. Yes. Immediately. Immediately. Yeah. They know what they're doing. They know what they're doing. They're little lap dogs. But also nobody believes those hip pieces. The people that read it. That hate Woody Housen. They already hated them. It's like you're not going to get those people back. You're going to have a certain amount of people that don't like you no matter what. So those hip pieces don't really work anymore. They just inform your haters that, oh, I'm on the right track. I knew he was a retard. That's all it is.

2:02:30It's just...it's not real. The whole thing's not real. And everyone knows it's not real. When a guy goes on Saturday Night Live and has a funny monologue, that's essentially realistic. It's about... That was so perfectly said. Amazing. It was amazing. It was amazing. Of course they attacked them. But all that does really is show you where the demons are. Who's attacking him for that? Who are the people that have sold their soul? Who are the people that are willing to go after this guy for saying something that we all know to be true? You're going to go after him for that? Remember when they went after Eric Clapton?

2:03:04Oh, my God. They went after him so hard. And Eric Clapton, who was vaccinated? He was vaccinated. He was vaccinated. He was a horrible reaction to the vaccine. He was a racist. They found some black guy who worked with him 20 years ago said he was a racist. He's a racist. He's a racist. Everything. They went after him. Anti -vaxxer racist responsible to the death of millions with his poor choice of words, describing his personal illness. But that's how transparent everything is. You know? I mean, obviously I experienced it. It's fascinating to watch it happen when they turn on you. It's weird, it's weird.

2:03:40Because for me the weirdest thing about it was like, the play was so stupid because I was obviously okay. It was obviously healthy really quickly. Well you did look green. I should have filmed it. Because I worked out six days later, I did 10 rounds on the heavy back because I wanted to find out if I felt good. And I felt fine. Wouldn't you be more interested in how someone got better if you really wanted the world to be a healthier place? You'd be like, what did that guy do? That's different. He's just telling you what he did and he got better and he wasn't vaccinated. So what did he do that's different?

2:04:11And wouldn't that be what the news wants? But no, when the news is controlled by giant corporations, that is an uncomfortable truth. That is a real problem. Having that narrative out there, that there's someone out there that can get healthy without taking this thing, that we're telling everybody they have to take. But if it worked, why would you care if I took it if you took it? You can't get it. So let me get sick. Let me be a dummy that just gets sick and recovers. Which most people did. That's the other thing. They wanted to pretend like 10 % of the people were dying and the hospitals were over on notes.

2:04:41I was like 99 .7 % of the people survived and the people that didn't survive had a... Three core mobridities. Four core mobridities. Four. And then as soon as Bill Gates cashed in his stock. Yup, he started to shit. He starts shitting on the facts. Well, we didn't know that it had a low fatality rate. The virus had a low fatality rate and that the vaccine was along lasting and it didn't block transmission or contraction. And so we got to do better. We got this new thing. It's a nasal thing. He literally does that. We got this new thing and this actually works better. I look into it. He's fucking funding that nasal thing.

2:05:19Of course he is. Of course he is. And now he's buying up all the farmland. He's smart. He's a megalomaniac. That's the thing. He's also a guy that people don't realize at one important time was very hated. He was hated. In the 90s. Yeah. Anti -trust. Yeah, because he was monopolist and he knew how to crush people who had innovation and so they would throw pies in his face. Yup. And then he got smart and he was like, oh, I'm gonna buy the media. Yeah, that's exactly. He spent hundreds of millions of dollars buying media corporations off. And so like when you see a PBS news hour do us thing on vaccines.

2:05:57It's being funded by Bill Gates. Yeah. And it's about a vaccine that he's invested in. And so he's funding the vaccine. He's funding the NGOs that's gonna distribute it. He's funding the media coverage of the thing. It's like every which way he's got it. And because he wears a crew neck and he looks like a nerd, people think nerds wouldn't lie. Yeah. That's why people think Chris Hayes and MSNBC. He's a nerd. He wouldn't lie. Rachel Maddler's a homosexuals. They don't lie. They're naturally good people. Especially she's wearing a business suit. She's so serious. Well, I'd like to say she wears those fake Megan Kelly eyelashes.

2:06:32And she wears jeans. Yes. And then she wears jeans that are three times too big for her. That's talking about someone in conflict. Oh, does she really? Oh yes. She wears the man jeans that are gigantic. And then she wears the Megan Kelly eyelashes. Interesting. The man jeans is an interesting choice. Yes. Wonder what that's saying. That's someone in deep conflict with themselves. Yeah. Interesting. So that's nice. But $100 ,000 a day smooths that over again. That's a lot of money. You could spend that also to fun ways. $100 ,000 a day. I think a day. You buy a Porsche a day. And that was her reward that was.

2:07:04Wow. One Porsche a day. That was have a 9 -11 for every day of the week. All right, it's worth lying. Go around a quarter of sideways. Wee. And listen to good tunes. Rod Stewart. Wake up Maggie. Let's go. Drive down the Malibu coast. Sorry. So that's the example. That's the, so they put Julian Assange in prison, right? In Belmarsh. And Rachel Maddow does rush a gate. Lies about Ukraine. Lies about Libya. Lies about Syria. And she gets $100 ,000 a day. I'm glad you brought up Julian Assange because what did he have to do to get free? So he had to admit that he committed one felony. But didn't he have to delete things?

2:07:45All right. He did turns out, I didn't know. Yeah, it turns out they did delete some, some shit. It was like 20 ,000 documents or something. Oh, that's only 20 ,000. It's no big deal. But man, oh man. What was it about? Man, oh man, that guy. I mean, what a hero. What an unbelievable absolute hero. I thought he was going to die. I thought he was going to die in that prison too. What do you think happens to him now? And it looks like they knew they were going to let him out because when they let him out, he had a little bit of weight on him. It looked like he wasn't as frail as he once was. Oh, look, they think they're feeding him good.

2:08:13They looked like, hey, start sending them three meals a day, get him all the steak and everything. So when we let him go, he doesn't look horrible. Oh, was he eating poorly before that? Well, he was, I mean, I saw pictures of him. He looked horrible. He, well, he's not getting any vitamin D, right? Right. He's indoors all day long for 10 years. Like how long was he in jail for? Or locked up? So he was in that prison for six years, but he was in that embassy for, I think, eight years before that or something like that? God damn. Yeah. He was in prison for six years. I'm pretty sure six years. So you know, Jamie'll find out.

2:08:45Didn't he go in? Was it 2019? It's a seven and a half years total, but I don't. Seven and a half, seven and a half years of self -imposed confinement and then five years of enforced detention. Okay. So five years in Belmars, seven and a half years in that, in that Ecuadorian embassy. Jesus Christ. Where? How did he not go crazy? I don't know how he didn't go crazy. And then they made him pay for his flight home. Half a million dollars. Half a million dollars. Too private, though. Probably had champagne, strawberries. Could I just think? Why wouldn't someone like Mark Cuban who brags about, he brags about he loves his jet collection?

2:09:18Like why wouldn't he just send a jet over there to take care of him? He's busy arguing with people on Twitter. Oh, see, he's another fucking maniac. Yeah, he likes arguing on Twitter. Yeah. It's interesting to watch people wrong about almost everything. He's wrong about quite a bit. Ravavora, this young kid who's a journalist, he's really good. And he's gone back and forth with them at the point of Mark Cuban has to step out of the chat. He just gets clowned. It's just weird that a person that that busy would choose to engage with people. And like the one of the poorest ways to communicate. Like to go back and forth and argument with people on Twitter.

2:09:55You should want to post things. And you know, you have something that you feel like it's on your mind, like I'll post that, but you should argue with people on Twitter. Like I go, how much time do you have? No kidding. How do you have the time to do that? Don't you own 85 million companies that you have to run? It's like a sign of mental illness to be arguing with people all day on Twitter, in my opinion. I think when I see people arguing with people on Twitter, I'm like, oh, that's a person that's rack with anxiety. That's like a truly unhealthy person. There's no way you can't be. You're going back and forth with people.

2:10:23You feel it. You're a human being. If you're in conflict and you're trying to get one up on the person, every fucking tweet, you're checking your Twitter every five minutes to see who's responded and how it's doing. Did you get ratioed? Oh, my God, I got ratioed. Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. And then your wife's upset. And your kid's daddy, can we play? Hold on, hold on. You're in the middle of tweeting. It's fucking, it's manic stuff. It's not good for you. It's bad for you. It's a bad way to communicate. The best way to communicate is civilly in front of a person. That's the best way. What are you yelling at screaming at a person right in front of you?

2:10:52That feels bad too. You should be able to, as a grown adult, have a civil conversation with people where you can really disagree with something. But just keep like a professional polite tone. But there's this, you know what's interesting? As I just interviewed this woman called Blair White. I don't know if you had a Blair on. So I told her, I said, you know when... Right winged trans person. Yeah. What are the odds? Right? So I've had trans, I've had trans fans come to the show, right? Card fucks them in the green room. But I don't know who they're kidding. Depending. Depending how they look. And they have guns.

2:11:32Like I've had a couple of trans fans come up there and they're like, hey, you want to see my gun? And I was like, they're kidding. That's hilarious. So, but anyway, when I was talking to her, I was like, you know, I feel like you're a woman. Like I get the energy of a female from you. And whereas Dylan Mulvaney seems like a gay guy doing an unbelievable caricature of a woman. Right. And... Agreed. And she agreed. And she said, yeah, he has gay boy energy. Yeah. And so she went to these LGBTQ, the pride parades, right? And she would ask people how many genders do you think there are? And when do you think kids should be allowed to have gender affirming care and have hormones and stuff?

2:12:16So she's asking these questions, right? Which we're all talking about. Right. And she's doing it in a polite way. And the fucking way people turn. Now they had security following her. She basically got kicked out of the algae, the pride fest. And people are like, fuck you. Like they found out that she says to one guy, you know, what do you think about Donald Trump? He was the first president in the United States to go into the White House supporting gay marriage. And like I never looked at all the thought of it like that. And they're like, oh, you're a Trump supporter. Fuck you. I'm like, I always thought that the gay pride movement was about tolerance and diversity.

2:12:56And let me be my thing. And you can do your thing. Now it's like, no, you're only allowed to have one opinion. You're only allowed to have one political view. And if you step out, it's like, it's fuck you. Yeah, exactly. Isn't it that's the opposite of what I thought the gay movement was all about? Well, it's the opposite of what the progressive movement is supposed to be all about. The progressive movement is also supposed to be about intelligent, well educated, compassionate people that have a better perspective of how things are and what causes people to live in unfortunate circumstances and the inefficiencies of so many government organizations and the importance of the working class community.

2:13:33That's what it's supposed to be about. It's supposed to be about like being kind and helping people and supporting workers and rights and all those things, that's what it originally was. But the problem is with any ideology, if you have to have a rigid adherence to whatever the ideology states, whatever the doctrine is, that can shift to the point where it's no longer even a progressive value and you call yourself a progressive yet you support all these ideas. Like you support the war in Ukraine. You support all these different things that are fucking insane. It's censorship. Yeah, the FBI. The hallmark of authoritarian dictators is censorship.

2:14:10And they got people who consider themselves progressive to be so like I say, I've never changed. I'm for bodily autonomy, my body, my choice, which you don't hear people say anymore. What they'll say is I'm pro -abortion. No, you say I'm a woman's right to choose. Yeah, that's what they say. That's what people like to say the most. Okay, I've heard people start saying they're pro -abortion. No one's pro -abortion. But anyway, so I've stayed my body, my choice, bodily autonomy, I'm anti -war, I'm pro -worker, and I'm anti -censorship for free speech. Those are all considered right -wing positions now.

2:14:44It's crazy. It's crazy. But it just shows you that what we're talking about, that's just the ideology. It's just a cult and there's two cults in this country. There's the right -wing cult and the left -wing cult. And there's a bunch of people that are centrist. There's a bunch of people that have like a little bit of this and a little bit of that and they're kind of in the middle and they're kind of like a left -wing leaning conservative or right -leaning progressive and they're confused and they don't know what to think. And I think the majority of people are kind of really if you isolated them and get them out of their tribal thinking.

2:15:14The way they look at the world, and if they could be explained to them in a kind way, most people are in the center, most people. I think I generally think most people are. But the people on the far left are so fucking crazy and the people that are on the far right are so fucking crazy that if you're on the left, you see the people on the far right, well, I'm not that fucking person. So I must be on the left. And then if you're on the right and you go, you know, I'm kind of like pretty open -minded when it comes to a lot of social issues. But then you see Antifa, you go, well, what the fuck, I'm not with those people, I must be right -wing.

2:15:45And then you have this chaos that we have currently. That the whole left, I just, I don't call them, you know, people, oh, the far left. I just call them Democrats, right? Because they became, they're not, that's not left if you're for war. It's not left if you're for censorship. It's not left if you're for mandating experimental medical treatments. Right. That's there's nothing left about that, right? You just vote Democrat. And so, and these are two bullshit constructs being left right. I don't think it matters that much. I've got way more in common with people who are considered right -wing than I do with Joe fucking Biden.

2:16:20Right. Do you know what I mean? And the thing is the people don't realize, if when they say Oregon, I've told you this before, when people say, we have to organize along class lines. That means organizing with Trumpers, the workers. That's what they, Christian Smalls did on Staten Island when he organized the first union in Amazon, right? He didn't go down there and go, hey, who here is for LGBTQ? Hey, who here is a gun nut? You're out. Who's not, who's for freedom of speech? You're out. He just went, who's here to get together? We have an economic interest to oppose the man. You're with me? That's how you fucking organize.

2:16:54You come around and you don't, you don't have all these things that exclude. It's all about excluding people. And by the way, I found out that all this trans stuff, all this, it's all come from the top down. It doesn't come from the bottom up. I figured this out when I saw that Larry Fink, the head of BlackRock, talk about him enforcing ESG and DEI. And so that's because those companies are the ones who are raping the planet and screwing everybody, but then they stick a gay pride flag on what they're doing so they can wrap themselves in a patina of virtue. And that's all that is. And that's coming and it's also great because it keeps us divided.

2:17:25So if we're fighting over bathrooms and people competing in sports and swimming and all that, then we're not eyes off the ball. Our eyes off the $200 or $600 billion are sending to the military industrial complex and enough for transfer of, well, we're not talking about the CARES Act. We're not talking about things that actually matter that people are still living under bridges. People don't have healthcare. That doesn't bankrupt them. People can't go bankrupt just trying to go to college. People don't have a decent 80 % of workers live in paycheck to paycheck half the country can't afford a $500.

2:17:54Emergency, all that shit. We're not talking about any of that stuff. If we're talking about all that other stuff. Exactly, exactly. And that's part of the playbook. The playbook is key to people distracted and divided. That's always been the playbook. And then while we're in the middle of these international conflicts that are baffling to everybody involved and you're wondering how they have all this money to do that, but they don't have any money to address all the problems that we have. How about the people in Maui? Imagine being a person in Maui, the boss at home, they give you $700. And then you still can't rebuild.

2:18:25It's a year later, nothing's been built. And if the blink of an eye, they give $100 billion to Zelensky and... Well, even worse, they accidentally sent Ukraine $6 billion. They sent an accidental $6 billion. So then we looked up, how much would it cost to rebuild every house they got destroyed in the fire? $5 billion. So they could've done that. So why wouldn't they do that? Why wouldn't they do that? Why wouldn't they do that? I don't understand. Those people are devastated. And then there's all this talk about taking over that land. Well, you go to Maui, I was in Maui, and you see people have put graffiti on the side of Billingsay, and this is a land grab.

2:18:58Yeah, you see that a lot. It is a land grab. It's a pretty transparent land grab, right? It's happened in front of our eyes, and no one's doing anything about it because it's five hours in a jet across the ocean. And we're watching this shit take place where these people, in first of all, just horrible mismanagement of water rights, horrible mismanagement of power lines. The fact that they have horrible winds, crazy winds there, and they've had these fucking power lines that are above ground. When I lived in California, my fucking lines were underground. They figured it out there. How come they didn't figure it out in Hawaii?

2:19:31You know how much money could've been saved? They just put the power lines underground. It was so unfortunate that they're, our alarm system malfunctioned. Yeah, how about that? And that the water got turned off, so the firefighter didn't. They wouldn't let them turn the water on. There's people, the water's very valuable commodity there. The whole thing is fucking insane. And that the cops are turning people back into the fire. It's just, the whole thing is insane. These are all just unfortunate things. It's unfortunate things. How about that mayor who goes on TV, like what, two weeks after the fires, talks about how they're gonna like try to figure out how to turn into a monument?

2:20:04Oh, I didn't see that. You ever see that speech? Was it the mayor of the governor? I forgot which guy it was. But he was talking about how they're talking about erecting a monument and like turning into a park or something like the stone. It's super valuable land where these people are. Yeah. That's the problem that everybody recognizes. These people have these modest homes on this super valuable piece of land. And if something should happen, some looms, whoopsies, whoopsies. And that whoopsies happens, and then they can figure out a way to take it. Yeah, you know, have you ever seen a fire that melted the wheels off of cars?

2:20:43And it does. I mean, fires do do that. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, extreme heat is fucking insane when it does to cars. And also cars are filled with oil. Oil and gasoline, the kind of heat that you get off of a burning vehicle's extraordinary. You know, when your fires are one thing, like a wood fire, but a fire of a car that's filled with 30 gallons of gas and as rubber tires, that heat is fucking extraordinary. Extraordinary. That don't believe you. I mean, fire can do wild things, man. It really can, but the real problem is how they handled everything. It's so poorly done. By the way, they've had wildfires there commonly because of the fact that they have like, see?

2:21:28Yeah. This is Tennessee. Yeah, liquid aluminum. So the wheels melt. So that's all liquid aluminum. Oh, really? That's the wheels melting. Yeah. Fire from gasoline and everything in a car is made out of plastic. Think about if you have vinyl seats and plastic grommets and all these different plastic pieces that are on your sides, you know, your A columns and all this, all that's plastic. The fucking steering wheel's plastic. The dashboard's plastic. All that shit goes up and bro, you better get the fuck out of the way and 30 gallons of gasoline. Like that's heat, man. That melts everything. Melt melts mufflers.

2:22:06Melt's everything. Anything aluminum is fucked. So there's no way to vote our way out of these problems. It doesn't seem like in America that we're at this. What do you think we can do? What do you think is the real solution to try to get us on the right path? What is the thing that can be done? I think there has to be, you know, like you say, there's an awakening of people realizing that they're being screwed over by a billionaire class. That's, it's international, right? Like so the border being open. So that's not only happening in America, that's also happening in Europe, right? You've seen that and you see what's happening to London, France, with their Dune in Scotland, places like that.

2:22:43And Poland said no, right? They closed their border. But I think this is some kind of bigger plan to, and so I think if people wake up to that, which I think they are starting to, it's gonna look, it looks something like the trucker protest in Canada, eh? You always say, eh, every time? That tick.

2:23:10I think it's gonna look like something like that that we have to have a way to, we've got to make, you know, like January 6th, which was, you know, a freaking instigated by the FBI. We know that. I'd love to see the guy who was the congressman. He was interviewing the head, Christopher Ray, the head of the FBI. And he said, did you have any FBI assets inside the Capitol before the breach dressed up like MAGA people? And he says, I can't answer that. And the congressman goes, the answer should be no. It should be no. So what? So again, and so that was an attempt to criminalize Trump and criminalize his political movement.

2:23:49The same grand jury, the same Rico statue that they used to indict Donald Trump and Atlanta. They used to also, same Rico statue, same grand jury to indict the stop cop city protesters. And, you know, when I made that case to Cornel West, I go, do you see the game that's being played now? Because then they're not only criminalizing their political opponents in the United States. They're doing that all around the world. They did that in Pakistan. So Imran Khan, the guy who stood up and said, people of Pakistan do not want to go along with NATO's wars anymore. He immediately threw him in jail. That was a criminal.

2:24:18They did the same, the same thing they did in Brazil. They didn't want Lula to be president. So they threw him in jail, right? And so they thought the center right guy was going to win. But then the far right guy, Bolsonaro won the Trump of Brazil. They're like, oh, fuck, what do we do? So they had to let Lula back out of prison because he's the only one who could beat him. And then once they beat him, they then made it illegal for Bolsonaro to have a run for president again. And it's the same shit they're doing. How are they making it illegal for Bolsonaro and not run for president? They, they, they're, they're like, they're trying to do the Trump right now.

2:24:44Give the, the four different, you know, 92 felony. But so they bullshit charges against him. I don't know the ins and outs. I know they did, I know they did that. So, so that's what, so I think people need to wake up to that and wake up to, if anybody, you know, if anybody catches on fire and that is a problem for the establishment, they criminal, look what they did to the goddamn Brussels brand for fuck's sake. So, immediately if you get a voice and you become a problem for the establishment, that's the new game. They just criminalize you now. And everybody goes along with it. Can you believe how people go along with the, they say that what they are currently doing to Donald Trump, they say he's gonna do that to us.

2:25:26But you're already fucking doing it. We've already, this whole idea that somehow he's, isn't that kind of mind blowing? How do people not, well, Andrew Cuomo was on the Bill Mahers show and he admitted that they should have never brought that case and that if he was the attorney general, he would have never did it. And the only reason that case was ever brought was because it was Donald Trump was the center of it. This is how dumb they are. They went after that guy, Andrew Cuomo, which if you are gonna be strategic about who is your tough guy, Democrat, that could be president. Why would they?

2:25:59It's that guy. Andrew Cuomo. They gave him an Emmy for his bullshit coverage of COVID. Yeah, hilarious. Then they took it away. But listen, you know, he's not a virologist. He's acting on a bunch of different experts and telling him what to do, including letting people that have COVID back in a nursing home so it turns out to be devastating. And then also the use of ventilators, which they thought was important. They needed, we thought we needed a bunch of them. Turns out it killed people. Killed some bizarre number, like 80 % of the people they put on ventilators, one up dying. Yeah. And then they would give you drugs that slowed down your breathing.

2:26:32But my point is, if that doesn't happen, that guy's your guy against Trump. Yeah. That guy's your guy. I mean, that's a big tough guy who speaks well. He's charismatic. He's big Italian guy who's gonna lay it. I mean, great speaker. You heard him on Bill Maher. I'm like, boy, if it wasn't for this one scandal of him liking a hug, ladies. Oh, we just, you know, I'm Italian. We do. I like the, you know, we play a little grab ass. You know what? That was a big deal. Come on. Bo, you know, I mean, Joe Biden has been, is that your phone that keeps ringing? Joe Biden has been sniffing kids and hugging people forever.

2:27:07This is crazy. You know, I mean, he's, is maybe it's me. No, it's me. I mean, he's a fucking weird guy. And they just decided for whatever reason that they were gonna take Cuomo out. And I never understood that, that strategic move. I mean, it must have been some sort of an inside power grab play. But then they were placing with that cultural lady who's out of her fucking mind. God has brought us this vaccine. This vaccine's brought by God. Like, what are you even fucking talking about? And then she fired 100 ,000 in healthcare workers. How long she said that, black people? I don't know what a computer is.

2:27:41How crazy is that? Yeah. How crazy is that to even say? Imagine anyone else. So yeah, that's how you know how corrupt and media is, because they did make a big deal out of that. No, everybody was like, what the fuck did you just, do you see the memes or the videos that kids made? No. Oh my God, so many funny videos of black kids who were moving around a computer like confused like a caveman. Oh, look at they see a computer. Oh, open it up. Well, I mean, your phone is a computer. Dude, everyone knows what a fucking computer is. It's 2024. That's like Joe Biden in the primary in 2020. Play the record player.

2:28:18They need to hear words. They're not the TV. Don't know the idea. What do you poor black people don't have a laptop? What the fuck are you talking about? Everyone's online. You moron. Everyone literally the whole country's online. Did you see the mayor of New York? He said that the, so they're trying to get these immigrants jobs. And he's like, well, a lot of them are real good swimmers. We can't, you didn't see that? Yeah, I did see that. Oh yeah, insane. It's like when you want to be lifeguards. When you want to call them wet backs, but you want to be politically corrected. Jesus Christ. That's what that was.

2:28:46It's so crazy. It's the whole thing is so crazy. It's so crazy to watch all the gaslighting chaos. And it's also amazing to see that the Democratic Party is now the establishment party. And it used to be the other way. The Democratic Party used to be the party that represented workers and was against the billionaire class. But then Bill Clinton and Al Gore, no friend of the working man, they saw Reagan are like, hey, if you can't beat him, join him. And so they decided like, hey, they said Wall Street. We got it. Give us the money, military. Give it, they started a thing called the Democratic Leadership Council, the DLC.

2:29:20Do you know who was on the board of the DLC? Koch brothers, they were out of the fucking board. Well, they want the world to be a better place too. And so that, and so this one to help people. That's what it's about. They want to bring democracy. That's what I've been saying. I'm glad you came around. Thank you. That's why I brought you here. I brought you here to educate you. I'm an educator. Breaking President Biden says that a conference call he's staying in. Yes. I'm running. I am the leader of the Democratic Party. No one is pushing me out. I've been knocked down before and counted out my whole life when you get knocked down.

2:29:54You get back up. Yo, I think I got a, I bet my phone was like nothing. I like his moxie. I like it. I've been told by, I have a billionaire friend who's like a donor. They go, hey, they had a big donor meeting in Denver, like 40 of the top Democratic donors. And they said, who here wants to get rid of Joe Biden and every hand went up? So that's. I think Jill Biden is a secret Trump fan. That's what I think. And I think she knows the way to get Trump back in the White House and straighten this country out is to keep her husband, Joe Biden running. There's no way she thinks he's okay. So something's going on.

2:30:32What could spiritually, pretend to be Kurt Metzger for a moment. And what do you think? If you had to say, why would she want him in? You would say, well, because she thinks maybe he can win, even though he's demented, and maybe she can stay in power, but also maybe he doesn't get prosecuted. So this is my question about the recent Supreme Court ruling about the presidential immunity. If I was in the Democratic Party and I looked at what's going on with Donald Trump, and I looked at the very real possibility that Donald Trump might get back into the White House, I would say, listen, all this barisma stuff, all this, this is big time shit.

2:31:12There's a lot of evidence, not a little bit of evidence like the Trump thing, not 34 charges of felonies, which is just a misdemeanor that's just 34 different checks he wrote for a porn star, which is what a cheap bastard. He paid her over 34 different times, like payments. I give you installments, I give her installments, a little bit here, a little bit there. She doesn't get it all in one lump. Well, did you ever see the video on how Bill Clinton paid off Paula Jones back when he was running for president? When she had the big check, when we said the big check, she wanted a game show. Oh, really?

2:31:43There was $850 ,000 he paid her off. Right, and back then. And they admitted it. They go, okay, now this is over. We paid her off. Yep. How? Well, the thing was like riding it down on a ledger. Yeah, that's the, but in normal cases, as Andrew Cuomo said on Bill Marshall, that's just, you get a fine. I'm telling you, he fucked up with that Cuomo guy. That guy could have been the president, and he'd probably be a good president. He was a good mayor. I mean, he's a good governor. Like, wasn't he? He's better than Hocho, right? I mean, I don't know. Like, everybody loved him at the beginning of COVID.

2:32:18They loved him. You know, Chelsea Handler was saying she's Cuomo sexual number. Yeah, remember that? Remember that? That was sexual. Everybody loved him. Everybody loved him. Because he was the stern, like straight forward, practical, anti -traumatic, yeah, he was a leader. He seemed like a leader. Big handsome guy. He speaks very well. He also seems like a mob boss. You know, it's like, yeah, he took care of it. Mr. Cuomo. Mr. Cuomo's got it all in the control. Are they fucked up? Like that? You're so charismatic people that are experienced in politics that could have actually gone against Trump.

2:32:58That was the main guy, in my opinion. Yeah, and I was hoping for it because the guy who does the voices on my show, Mike McCree, he does an Andrew Cuomo. Does he do a good one? He does a very funny one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like what he have people calling it. It's been on to people. And a lot of people are like, what? People think it's him. Yeah, who do you have calling it? Like what different people? Well, the first time I had Bill O 'Reilly call it, that the people at KPFK were like, and they go, Bill O 'Reilly just called someone a whore. And I'm like, no, that's not. So is that? He did an amazing Mitt Romney.

2:33:29He was hoping for Mitt Romney to get elected. Remember on Howard Stern had that guy that would call in as a letterman? It was dead on. Oh, and I never listened to Howard Stern. Oh my God. Howard Stern used to have this letterman guy with calling dead on. Oh, really? Dead on. Just saying wild shit. And he would say it was David Letterman. Oh, David Letterman's on the phone. That's what I do. I just pretend, at this pretend. Oh, he, Mike also does Jeff Bridges. Oh, really? He does Jeff Bridges. That's a weird one. Hey, I can't do it. I can't do it. He's like, for our out, man. Oh, he does Jeff Bridges is libousky?

2:33:59Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's one of the greatest movies of all time. All time. All time. And he does him, who else does he do that nobody else does? Oh, he does a great Kevin Spacey. Oh, wow. Oh, it's fucking, everything he says is like that. That's right. Tell me about your lesbian niece. Anyway, so he does a, yeah, he's brilliant. So he was, he was hoping for Mitt Romney because nobody else did it, Mitt Romney. Did you see the contrast between the debate in 2012 with Barack Obama and Mitt Romney? And so many put it aside by sight, no, no, no, no, no, just the, the way they spoke with each other. There's a video that shows the contrast between Mitt Romney and Barack Obama speaking so cordially and professionally and graciously to each other in 2012.

2:34:53And then 2024 with Trump and Biden going at each other. You're a sucker. You're a loser. You know, and then he's like, he can't play golf. He's got no golf game. How much? Six handy cam. He goes, I have a six handy cam. And that's how wild that dude is. And then he changes to again. Immediately goes, it was an eight. You just switched it. He's a bullsharist. And the worst, but the, I love what, when Trump says to you, let's not be children here. Like holy shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's hilarious. Here, I'll play golf with you but you got to carry your own bag. You think you can carry your own bags?

2:35:32You can't walk down a fucking flight of stairs. This is crazy. You can't even carry the onload in your pants. Ah, it's just what a wild time. Do you think he shit is himself? People were saying he shit himself when he was with McCrogan. Remember, he bent over. Perhaps maybe he was preventing himself. I've shit myself before. Things happen. Things go wrong. Things go wrong. That's what I say about Mitch McConnell. People go, do you see him have a stroke? I go, no, he shit his pants. Look at his face. I know that face. I've made that face. The Mitch McConnell one. I think he said, I think he wins those 95.

2:36:02I think he locked up. Yeah, he clicked. Someone need to control all the lead. Yeah. That poor guy. All those people. There's like, you shouldn't, you know, we have the oldest fucking people in the wild. And because the young people are all, you know, there's a bunch of ex -girlfriends and ex -husbands out there that are talking shit about them and they're terrified to run. And if they have real leadership qualities, they probably have a bunch of disgruntled former employees and a bunch of people they can call upon, they can make up stories, they can concoct narratives. If you're not chosen to be in that position, you want to buck the system.

2:36:34That's what we're seeing with Trump. They come for you. They come for you in very, very... Look how they came for RFK Jr. Yep. Look it out and they're still doing it. They just brought up a thing about a nanny from the late 90s. Did you see that? No, I didn't see it. Yeah. But here's the thing about RFK Jr. They don't think he can win right now. What is this thing? Look it up a Biden farting or shit in himself and found this store I never heard. Was it Joe Biden or the new Mr. Trump? Kamila hasn't stopped talking about hearing the president break wind during the chat at COP26 climate summit in Glasgow.

2:37:04Right here. So Biden farted himself? It was a long and possible to ignore. It was a long and possible to ignore. Kamila hasn't stopped talking about it. That Biden just fart started in a meeting, yeah. He produced a little natural gas of his own at the COP 26 summit. It's audible enough to make the Duchess of Cornwall blush. But is this the daily mail? Yeah, they can just kind of say things, can't they? Oh, okay. Over there, they can just kind of say things. You know, that's why from political. Oh, they say it too? They were reporting Mary, oh my goodness. Maybe it is true. Let's go with it. Old people fart.

2:37:38It happens. Yeah, that guy's not in control of anything. You think he's in control of his farts? So do you think someone mixed up and gave Joe Biden the real vaccine? I don't think that's what happened. I think he's dying. I mean, he had two brain surgeries. He had a brain surgery where they literally cut the top of your head off. He had aneurysms. Like he had like, see, but like, look, I just told you this study from South Korea. Like it helped the Alzheimer's thing. Yeah, it's person. I mean, I don't think any of that stuff's gonna help. I mean, I think he was already deteriorating state. Yeah, he was definitely.

2:38:10So I saw a guy, this guy, Dr. John Campbell. Sure. So he's great. Yeah, he says, although he pretends I don't exist. He wouldn't respond to me. What do you mean? He wouldn't come on my show. We would talk to him anyway. Wonder why? He goes at everybody else's show. But including Russell Brand. I mean, I'm like, but he just the other day I saw a video. I tweeted it out up that he says he thinks he has Louis body disorder, which is what I think Robert Williams. Yes, he did, yeah. And so and he talks about all the different things that people will mistake it for Alzheimer's and will mistake it for Parkinson's and the felt, but it's really this Louis body disorder thing.

2:38:51So he might be right. He's been right for the, through the entire pandemic, very reasonable and very right when he's talking about it. But once he realized that it was a lie. Yeah. And then he's like, he got duped. It's like all these people, like even like peer quarries, like I didn't realize how corrupt a medical field is and how they control the medical journals and they can just make a study that will just prove a drug is good and they'll just do it wrong, say it's bad. And so yeah, he was, he found this out through COVID to that like, wow, the medical journals all corrupt. And we'll be saying that he was, so he thinks that Biden has Louis body dementia.

2:39:30Yeah, that's it. Wow. Yeah. I mean, it's just shocking that he can say that. I'm not going anywhere. He got knocked down and you get back up. Like, there's no, no one knocked you down. But no one has the ability, that's what's crazy. No one has the ability and the democratic party to pull him aside and say it's over. Like, who would be that person? This is the question, right? Yeah. Obama was the one who got everybody to drop out in the primary in 2020, except for Elizabeth Warren, so they could split the vote of Bernie. Right. So I think it's Obama. So why wouldn't Obama have that power over him now?

2:40:06You think once he's president, he's like, I'm president. I think he's getting replaced. I think he's still, I think he's getting replaced. I don't care what he says. But do you think there's a possibility that they would come across through it? Someone, I think, possibly, if they needed to, you get assassinated him with a balloon. I mean, you know, you get assassinated with a mosquito bite. Yeah, you don't have to be a scary movie. If he stands, over takes Joe Biden is the favorite to be the democratic candidate. It's like a betting site though. So like she became the top odds. Well, bro, you want Trump to win.

2:40:38Again, I would have her run against Trump. What we know about what has been and what will be based on what we know about what has already existed. This time that we're living in and time is a, time just passes by. What can be unburdened by what has been? What can be unburdened by what has been? And the crazy thing is, she said it more than once. She said it a million times. She didn't even tighten it up. And then she does it with like different takes. Like, give me a different take. What can be unburdened by what has been? Like just the stuff, dude, like you're doing a read. Like you're doing a fucking audition.

2:41:13What can be unburdened? And then she'll do it. And then she'll do it laughing. Give me one laughing. Oh my God. Give me what we are about to cry. Give me, give me one of your overseas. Be overreleasing seer. Give me one of your throat. Just throw it away, throw it away. Have you watched idiocracy recently? I haven't watched it. It's like a documentary. It's what watch it. Watch it now and you're like, oh my God. I just, I just so wish that George Carler was still alive. Yeah. Yeah, I would've been fine. He was getting more contankerous. Oh, yeah. He would've went crazy. They would've killed him.

2:41:46They maybe killed him anyway. Maybe that's what happened. Maybe we still have him. The government saw it coming. When did he die? 2018, I believe? And how about he, I don't know. But how about how they're, again, it's because the media is controlled that nobody cares that Jeffrey Epstein's list. 2008. Oh, it was off by 10 years. Wow. He was only 71. Yeah, see? They killed him. Told you. Well, if you see this, right? If he, if he, but he had a lot of heart attacks. He did a lot of, oh, get a lot of pills too. Yeah, remember there was a few years back where even in his elder years, he went to rehab for pills.

2:42:2671 is does not seem that old, right? Especially now that, no. No, wow. It's 14 years older than me. Yeah, that's, I can't do the math. But yeah, drinking 20 beers a day in 1973 says he was smoking joints before breakfast, drinking 20 beers a day and sharing a heavy cocaine habit with Brenda, a freelance talent coordinated coordinator for Hollywood production companies. Wow. Yeah, he was going hard. So he blew his ticker out. Yeah, it happens. Yeah, well, it was a lot of the greats that way. And you know, if you see, I saw the one person show his daughter did about it about him. Yeah. And she talks about how his last special, when she walked into the green room, and he turned around, it was like he had aged 10 years from the last time she had seen him.

2:43:13And he looked like this old man and he was shorter and he was bent over. And yeah, he did look, he did seem like, like bite and how bite and age like that. It seemed like that happened with him. Well, everybody that I know that did heavy coke in the seventies, by the time the nineties rolled around, they were fucked. Yeah, they were fucked. Mitzie, allegedly, God rest her soul. Oh, yeah. Yeah, she used to like, like the party. And you know, so many others, Richard Pryor, of course, you know, love cocaine. And you know, by the end, he was very hard to do it. He used to go up at the comedy store.

2:43:47I worked with him. Yeah. If you saw him at the comedy store, you probably saw me open for him. Excuse me, me going after him, rather. I used to have to bomb going after him. He also, whether it's serious tax problems, a heart attack and two open heart surgeries. Jesus Christ. His health problems cost him five years of productivity between 77 and 82. Oh, wow, even back then, he was having a heart attack in 77, though he had been able to taper his cocaine use on his own. He said, he continued to abuse alcohol and also became addicted to viking. Oh, that's hard. 2004 into the rehabilitation center.

2:44:19No, kidding. Yeah, so he was so and so if that was, so if he died, that was four years before he died. Yeah, he wanted to rehab for viking in. Yeah. Wow. That was probably in bad shape. Wow. Sucks, sucks. Sucks that so many of those greats just get hooked on these. I was so lucky to dodge that bullet. When I was sick and I was going through my bone disease, I used to have to take a handful of viking and just to get out of bed. I'd have to set my alarm for like a half hour before I had to get out of bed and then take them and then wait from the kick in so I could get out of bed. It was tough. And I, but I didn't get addicted.

2:44:53And then, and you know, all the, the only I ever got addicted to was cigarettes. Wow, that's crazy. And, you know, when I was younger in my, before I became a comedian, I used to drink gin. Oh, it was just, I mean, just drinking it. We finished off a bottle, you know? I mean, it was crazy. I can't believe I didn't become an alcoholic. I mean, maybe people would say you were back then, but I, you know, I just drank on the weekends. And then you just stopped. And then, yeah, when I became a comedian, I was like, oh, that was, I pretty much stopped because I didn't want to go on stage drunk. Right.

2:45:26And whereas now, I like to have one or two drinks before I go on stage. Loosing you up a little bit. I become a different, it takes away a little bit of a sensor. Yeah. So it's funny, like, I'll do two shows. And so the first show is sober. And the second show, I remember I was still, I was in Chicago doing a live show with the video. And the second show, I was a little hammered. And it was a totally different show. More fun, right? It was more fun. Yeah, there you go. It was, I was like, wow. Alcohol is its place. It just doesn't have its place for everybody. And it doesn't have its place if you're using it every day.

2:46:03It's just like everything else. Yeah, yeah. I gotta wrap this up and bring it home. Jimmy, you're a fucking gem. You're a gem of a human being. I appreciate you very much. And I'm glad you're out there. I really am. I love your show. I love the courage you have and your ability to chase down stories and find the truth of it. And also, I think what's really important is you get it out there in a funny way. I think that it helps people accept it more. Well, I'm flat at Joe. I really appreciate you saying that. I appreciate you. As always, I'm glad you have this show. Thank you. Okay, good to see you.

2:46:34We're gonna have fun tonight. Yeah, we're going to record to it. Bye everybody.