#2182 - Michael Malice

30 Jul 2024 · 3 h 8 min

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Podcast Notes: The Joe Rogan Experience - Episode #2182 with Michael Malice

Overview In this episode of *The Joe Rogan Experience*, Joe Rogan hosts cultural commentator Michael Malice, who is known for his provocative takes on various political and cultural topics. They cover a wide range of subjects including recent political events, societal changes, and personal anecdotes, all infused with humor and insightful commentary.

Key Themes and Discussions

  1. Joe Rogan's Comedy Special
  2. Rogan announces his upcoming Netflix special, his first in six years, reflecting on the challenges posed by the COVID-19 pandemic that delayed his performance.
  3. The joy of returning to stand-up comedy after a long hiatus is evident in his tone.
  1. Political Commentary on Joe Biden and Kamala Harris
  2. Discussion about Biden's recent performance and health during public appearances, with a focus on the debate and its implications.
  3. Malice speculates on Biden's mental state and the ramifications of his health on his presidency.
  4. The conversation shifts to Kamala Harris and the possibility of her taking up the mantle if Biden steps down.
  5. Concerns about Harris's capability and appeal to the electorate are raised.
  1. Environmental and Health Issues
  2. Malice emphasizes the environmental impact of human activities, particularly focusing on overfishing and climate change.
  3. They discuss the importance of addressing ecological disasters and how they are often neglected in political discourse.
  1. Animal Behavior and Intelligence
  2. A fascinating discussion about animal intelligence, showcasing examples from dolphins and chimps and their ability to communicate.
  3. The conversation explores human perceptions of intelligence and how they relate to various species.
  1. Public Perception and Media Dynamics
  2. Malice and Rogan delve into the role of media in shaping public perception, particularly regarding COVID-19 and political narratives.
  3. The duo criticizes mainstream media for their handling of issues, emphasizing the importance of skepticism and critical thinking.
  1. Cultural Commentary and Humor
  2. There is a light-hearted exchange about cultural figures, including a humorous analysis of individuals like Andrew Cuomo and various celebrities.
  3. Rogan and Malice joke about the absurdities in society, touching on contemporary culture and the entertainment industry.
  1. Conspiracy Theories and Skepticism
  2. Rogan and Malice touch upon various conspiracy theories, including speculation about body doubles for political figures, the influence of AI, and the nature of truth in the digital age.
  3. The need for a critical perspective on information and the motivations behind narratives is underlined.

Key Takeaways

  • The Importance of Critical Inquiry: The discussion emphasizes the necessity for individuals to question mainstream narratives and seek deeper truths.
  • Cultural Commentary: Both Rogan and Malice offer a fresh perspective on the absurdities of modern-day politics, entertainment, and society.
  • Humor as a Tool for Understanding: The use of humor throughout their conversation helps to unpack complex ideas and engage listeners in a relatable manner.

Closing Thoughts Michael Malice’s engaging and often controversial viewpoints, combined with Joe Rogan's conversational style, create a captivating episode that encourages listeners to think critically about the world around them. Their insights into politics, media, and societal norms resonate with those looking for deeper understanding and discourse.

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2:03The Joe Rogan Experience I have to announce because Netflix is making me announces that I have a Netflix special that's live Saturday night from San Antonio. Oh, so it's going to be live over the world. I'm going to see you tomorrow. Oh, yay. Oh, yeah, we're coming. Yeah, yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun. I've seen your said it's really funny. It's tight now. It's good. It's like I'm very happy with it. How long has it been since you dropped the special? Six years. We do seriously? Yeah, I was ready to do one in August of 2020 when the shit went down. So when the shit went down with the COVID stuff, I was preparing, so that was like March, right?

2:50I was preparing to do one in August. And then I didn't do stand up for like eight months. And then we started doing stand up out here again. And then I started changing a lot of bits and moving stuff around. And I'm like, I don't want to do one right now. And I sort of just really enjoyed fucking around and just doing comedy for doing comedy, and then doing it at the club. And when the club opened, it was so much fun. It was just such a fucking joy to be there all the time. It's like I get anxious to get back there. It can't wait. I was there opening night. Yeah. And I was there with my protege tray.

3:26We're in the green room. And I'm very much like, okay, this isn't your house. Like be respectful of the space, you know, because I'm not a comic Tim Dylan's there who I'm pals with Ron White. Oh my god, Ron White. Tony, you know, the crew. And then I hear the voice and Russ Anwax. And right. And I'm like, oh, fucking shit. And I'm like, all right, keep it cool. And I hear her say, yeah, when you get to be my age, you either have diarrhea or you're constipated. So when I was on Tucker Carlson, my son's like, mom, you've never been more personable. I go, yeah, that's because I shit myself. And I'm sitting there.

4:10I'm like, okay, here's your opening. And I go, you stole that line from the president. And she goes, what? No, who said I'd like her head to look around. And then I'm talking to her. She didn't know you. Of course she didn't know me. You know, she's a boomer, right? So I'm I'm sitting there. And the thing is, look, you hang out with like part of your act. You hang out with Elon, you hang out with like these major figures. Who do I get? I'm like the maker wish kid who's got a cold. And they're like, we can get you Dave Smith. Maybe Lex Friedman, right? So I'm chatting with her. And she's going on about how there's the book of Esther, which is a Jewish story from the Old Testament.

4:46So story of Purim, which I learned when I was in Yashiva. And she's going on about Vashdi's one. The character is his trans. And she's got a dick. And they didn't teach us this. She's school. I assure you. She's like, you didn't know Vashdi was trans. And I'm sitting there. I'm trying to keep up with her. I don't know what the hell she's talking about. She's off the rails. But the whole time I'm like, holy shit, Rosanna is yelling at me. One of my favorite videos from the store, you find on my Instagram, Jamie of Roseanne dancing. She's smoking a cigarette and dancing while they get it together, bitch, signs.

5:18It's illuminated in the background. It's such a fucking great video. I've been hanging out with her. And it's like one of the greatest things that ever happened. Oh, she's such a, such a character. Yeah, because the thing is if I make her laugh, it's like the show. Yeah. But if I don't make her laugh and she yells at me, well, Roseanne's yelling at me, which is also in. She believes from crazy stuff, but she's open to be like informed. Yeah. If you tell her that this is actually what's going to go. She doesn't like dig her heels in. Like she, I tried to explain to her contrails. Yeah. That they probably do spray things in the air.

5:51Sure. It probably does happen. But that's not what you're seeing all the time. What you're seeing all the time is a hot jet engine and counting encounters. It's a condensation. It literally creates clouds. It's a physical effect.

6:06You know, right? And it doesn't mean that they have it experimented with things because they're already talking to you about experimenting with weather modification. Like, first of all, they have some data. And one of the, some data that they have is actually from 9 .11 because of the contrails. So the contrails, when they stop being a thing because they shut the entire air travel system down in the United States for how long was it a couple of days? It was, yeah, it was, it was more than that. Yeah. It meant a bit of week. How long was it there? It was a while. So what happened was the earth's temperature actually increased.

6:39Are the temperature in the United States increased by a measurable amount, right? So it's very small, but it's measurable. And it's because there's no clouds. So those clouds that those planes create by flying overhead all the time, those things are consistently blocking out the sun to the point where it actually changes the temperature of the earth. So one of the things they found out about boat travel, you know, shipping containers, these gigantic ships, when NATO imposed two days, two days. Yeah. So when they imposed new and I don't know who was NATO, whoever it was, imposed new environmental restrictions on these giant cargo ships.

7:18Once they did that, they found that the surface temperature of the ocean actually increased because they weren't blowing pollution over the ocean so much so that it creates like a fog he haze that actually measurably blocks the amount of sunlight that goes through it. So ironically, like in trying to cool the ocean by decreasing our carbon footprint, they actually increased the surface temperature of the ocean. So that also gets them the whole thing about how it's not necessarily a bad thing if temperature increases because there's more life at the equator than at the poles. And it's not necessarily bad if you're going to get things slightly warmer and maybe it's the speed that's the issue, but they never even take that into consideration as long as there's any change it can only be for the worse.

7:59Well, it's also a business. This is where we have to be really careful with this stuff because I'm very environmentally conscious. I love wilderness and earth and the ocean. I will love all these things. There's a bunch of things that we should address as human beings. The biggest one, unfortunately, is that we've decimated all fish life in the ocean. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 94 % is that what it is? What's the number of 94? I think it's 94 % of all big fish are missing from the ocean. The difference is between the numbers of 100 years ago. Versus today. It's down 94%. Hold on. What do you mean by big fish?

8:37You mean like whale sharks? No, no, no, no, no, no. Tuna fish that we eat. All the sort fish, all these different fish that we commercially capture. Those things are decimated. Just decimated. It's a fucking disaster. And it's not a lot of these. 90%. Wow. 90 % of larger fish in the ocean are gone. We take through overfishing, unsustainable overfishing. The real fear is that if we keep going like this for another 100 years, there's nothing left. It's very difficult to impose these restrictions on these boats that are in the middle of the ocean that are from other countries. The other issue is bycatch where you're killing a lot of things that you didn't really want to capture.

9:22And also you have if you remove the predators, then the prey explode in population like with deer, and then that's as a whole cascade effect there. I that 90 % number seems because how would they have had that data 100 years ago though? Well fish markets. So if you talk to anybody who's a sushi chef that's ever been to the famous fish markets in Tokyo, they're so amazing that I was only in Tokyo for two days. It was I just flown in. We did the weigh -ins. I was out of it. I was like, God, I should get up at five in the morning, go to the fish market and I didn't do it. I'm fucking kicking myself.

9:54It's supposed to be incredible. I was just there. Like I came here to get, I came here to yell at you. Oh, no, I'm not even kidding. No, no, no, no. You know the guy who goes to Japan once and is like, you got to go to Japan. That's me. I've been to Japan. Unfortunately, I was very very very briefly. That's not going in Japan. Yeah. It was beautiful though. I loved it. I loved the audience. The audience at the fights were so respectful and they were so knowledgeable. Like if someone passed guard everyone would clap. I was like, wow, this is wild. I was really angry at all the misconceptions that I was taught about Japan and Japanese people.

10:31Like I thought that everyone would be like a robot. They were great sense of humor, very friendly. And the thing that they have there that we don't have here is like everyone really takes pride in what they do. And like you see it in like just regular stores and things like that restaurants, like they love their country. Do you know who Sakuraba is? Is any fighter? Yes, legendary fighter who used to smoke cigarettes and drink constantly and he beat everybody. He was like one of the greatest of all time. He's an incredible, incredible fighter. And mostly fought people way bigger than him. Way bigger than him.

11:03He fought a lot of absolute killers. And he is like one of the funniest guys like in all of combat sports. He's always like got this great sense of humor. He's always joking around with people. There's always videos of him joking around with fighters. He's a sweetheart of a guy and he's Japanese. Yeah. I went to Numazu, which is this little port town. And it looks like something out of lovecraft because it's clearly declining. So you go down the main street all the way to the ocean and everything's with the sea rather. Everything is closed. I'll board it up because that's the world's only deep sea aquarium.

11:36And I'm into that very much. And I'm like, all right, we got to go to Numazu over there. How do they do it? How's the deep sea aquarium where? How deep does water get it? Well, the thing is the fish are I guess they're caught with bycatch because the issue is the pressure right you bring them up their eyes explode their stomach explode. I don't know how they had the things that they had in those tanks. Like the tanks are not pressurized it's not possible but they had a lot of insanely cool shit there. Sort of the fish adapt, do you think? I maybe these are fish them. But no, some of the bad fish are like don't my vertically some fish vertically migrate, right?

12:06You've ever been to the one that's in the Mandalay Bay. Which in Vegas. No, I don't think I have fucking incredible. But it's not like this. This is the only one. This is the only one Yeah, that's the one that they thought was extinct. Right for what 65 million years. So it's just an amazing, amazing place. And the thing is right around the corner. How cool is that? It was so cool. What a cool fish that is. That is an old -ass fish. Yeah, because it's that fish is from like the beginning of life. And they've got lobed fins. There's only there's only two fish that still have lobed fins. What does that mean?

12:38You can see how there's like an aren't like the the fin is like like a ball. It has bones to stick out. Yeah, the the fin doesn't attach directly to the body. There's like a lobe. So them and lung fish are the only ones who have that anymore. See, look, I think it has bones in there because they're like, you know, there's a lot of these animals. One of the weirdest ones is like there was an animal that became a whale and it was a land animal. Right. You know what I'm about that one. Of course. It was like a hippo kind of thing. Yeah, weird fucking look at thing. And that thing became a whale. It was a carnivore.

13:06Yeah. Well, whales are carnivores. I know, which is nuts, right? But they kind of are. They're sweet about it. They only eat the little bitch ass. Not the squirrels. What are they? Giant squid. Do they? Oh, that's right. And they shoot sonic waves. Then like boil the water. What? Yeah, sperm whales. Sonic waves. And they boil the water really like a sperm whale can kill you by just vibrating. Like, like, there was a diver who was with him and you they can fuck you up really bad. Wow. No. Oh, yeah. Because they're what they're like what 80 feet and their shoe. Their entire like bulbous nose is to have this to yeah, there you go.

13:40Well, acoustic prey debilitation hypothesis or the big bank theory, the theory states that sperm whales can produce ultrasonic noises that are too high frequency for humans to hear and that these sounds can create shock waves that could injure prey. However, some studies have not found evidence to support this theory. There was a diver show more. So there was there was a diver who had it happen. Like, this is part of blue planet or one of those BBC shows. Well, I mean, it kind of makes sense. Yeah. I mean, especially when you look at the size of their mouth and the the noises they make whales can reach up to 200.

14:16How cool is that? I have a sperm whale tooth from my shaving brush and how wild is it that fucking thing breeze air and that thing used to be on land. And it's like, yeah, I'm gonna go hang out here and change everything. There is that meme about the fish went to the land and you evolved to go back to the sea, but you're not as good as you were before because you don't have gills and you become a penguin. It's a whole, but you can't do either. It's a whole thing. No, but it's it's you. So the thing I want to talk about Numazu, there was this little sushi place that I spent 15 minutes looking up this place because I want to give the guy shout out called eerie chi i r i i c h i it's in Japanese and Google maps.

14:51And it's just a dude and two tables and he's been there for 30 years and he goes to the fish market. He marinades the fish. It was one of the best experiences of my life, but they were having so much fun. The waitress, you know, this, it's like him and the waitress and she goes, and she's got her like broken English. She goes every morning, he goes to fish market. Serious face. Serious face and picks out the fish and he was delighted to be like, try my food. Like he puts joy into his world. You saw Jiro dreams of sushi. Well, I put in my phone. I like you better than Jiro and he lost it. Well, Jiro is probably like the guy now where all the other like sort of incognito sushi places that are legendary.

15:35They're like, hey, what the fuck? I think Jiro, the thing Jiro seems like it wouldn't be fun. It feels like you're taking a test because he's so serious. Because he's so serious. Yeah. I know what you're saying. So this guy was more fun. Yeah. And the thing I found is a lot of these high end places, you know, this better than I do, they're not all stuffy. A lot of times they know how to have a good time. Oh, yeah. Do you know Wagyu Mafia? Where's that? No. Okay. Wagyu Mafia is a Tokyo establishment and they did a pop in in Austin at Pasta Bar. So Pasta Bar, you know, Phillip Franklin Lee, he's the guy that owns sushi.

16:13He started here with sushi bar and then he became, he branched out into his own thing, which is sushi by scratch. And he also does this other thing in town called Pasta Bar. And it Pasta Bar, they brought in this Wagyu Mafia guy and they like put on a fucking show. Like this is, it was fun. Look, it's smiling, right? Yeah. Everyone's having a good time. Oh my God. It was so fun. It was so silly. Yeah. Yeah. Everything was silly. They feed you sometimes and it's like, it's like, they blow gold dust over the air. It's not stuffy at all. So he's like the complete opposite of Jiro dreams is sushi, but in saying experience.

16:46But Jiro is not when Japan, I thought Japan was going to be like Jiro and it wasn't. And I'm just making swords. Like if I don't like the foodiest stabs and stuff in this stuff. Double like dudes, like fucking hammering out swords. That's what I think about, you know, I think about like the craftsmanship and the seriousness. But do there's like the economics of the place, I don't understand because they have these big like built like office buildings like like in Harold Square in New York. And it'll be like 13 floors and each floor has like six rooms and you can take an elevator and it's a guy.

17:17No windows, two tables and a bar. And I grew up on like role playing games. It's like the guy in the armor shop. Like he's always there. Like I don't know what his life is. But he takes prying his cocktails. There's just room for five people. I don't know how he stays in business. But there's hundreds of them. It's still, it's and it's so everyone's the thing that angered me as a former New Yorker. You're out at night. Everyone's out in the streets. Everyone's plastered. Everyone's having fun. And it's perfectly safe. So when you look at New York and San Fran in LA, this is this is completely on purpose.

17:49Like it does not have to be this way. It was such a great time. Is it on purpose or is it neglect that no one steps in to correct? If you're arresting someone 30 times and putting him back on the street, like that's on purpose. Right. But that's the officer that's doing that. And that's the domestic department and the prosecutor and the district attorney. But then there's the politicians that are like in control of these these areas. And then there's a tone that these areas have that's being controlled by the district attorney. Yes. By how they prosecute things. And all this is all very, very political.

18:26Yes. So that part of the part that may looks like it looks like you want it to be like. Yes. Exactly. Course correcting at all. But I feel like at this stage, it's gotten it's so pervasive. Like the places where this crime and violence are so bad. And they've been that way for so fucking long. Like you would take a monumental effort that we just aren't capable of doing. Like we don't have $175 billion to fix all. Oh, wait a minute. We just gave all that money to Ukraine. Oh, wait, we could have fixed it. Yes. Very easily. That's the dumbest part of the argument. And it's not a lot of the resources for it.

19:03But we have all these resources for all these other things. Like what? And it's it's a small percent of people causing all the problems like a parade effect was like 20 % of people caused 80 % of the problems. It's not a big it's not like everyone in New York's a criminal. No, no, it's it's a lot of career criminals in New York. A lot of people that do the break ins and the cars and stuff like that, they get arrested all the time. What was that guy Jordan Ely who like tried to kidnap a girl. He punched her all leading the face for no reason. Broker Arbor socket. The one who was killed on the subway by that good Samaritan.

19:29It's like you punch an old lady in the face and break her orbital socket for no reason. Once that's a rap. Yeah. That guy he was prosecuted or he's been charged. Has he gone through the whole trial? I don't think he has at all. He should be mayor. This is the guy that choked the guy to death. Yeah. Looks like he got him in a really naked choke. It did let go. What was the guy the cause of death? The guy have a heart attack. That's a good question because a lot of times we're naked. It's hard to kill someone. You got to really hold on for a long time. You got to hold on for quite a while. Yeah.

19:59And but you can't have a heart attack if someone's choking you and you'll feel it. The guy will get loose. You know he's out. You remember the Eric Gardner case. Of course. That one made me sick. The only person who went to jail was the photographer. Oh, that's so crazy. Why do you go to jail? I don't remember what they got him for. But the cops didn't had barely any consequences. The guy died for no reason. No. The guy was just selling loose cigarettes. Right. I knew a dude who knew him. It's horrific. It's horrific. And it's also it's like they try to pretend that wasn't a choke. Like come on man.

20:30You know how to choke people. But even if it why are you choked them? He's selling cigarettes. It's a tough thing. Loose cigarettes. It's nothing. And it's like what is it? It's interfering with the business next to it where he buys the cigarettes. What are you going to do? Right. You know, is it and there isn't there worse problems in this fucking world? There's some guy who's an entrepreneur. You don't have to buy the cigarettes from that guy. Right. You don't have to. He wasn't in the store. He's just selling loose cigarettes. Right. Like if somebody doesn't have enough money for a packet cigarettes, but they have enough money for two cigarettes, this guy will sell them two cigarettes.

20:58And I also think it's insane to make cigarettes more expensive on purpose for it to screw with poor people. They do? That's the point. Wait a minute. The syntax is yes. Oh, oh, I see. They want to make it really hard to buy. Yeah. They want to. Well, just they just know that people are hooked and they get to steal money from you. That's really what it is. So they know your hooked on cigarettes. No, no, no. It's these good. It's not the tobacco companies that are selling these products prices. It's the governments. Right. They want it as expensive as possible because the idea like Bloomberg says it's so it's harder for people to keep to committed to this habit.

21:31Oh, that's interesting. I think it's that's a nice excuse for we know they are going to keep buying cigarettes. I don't think it's in general. This is the guy who banned big gulps. Do you think he banned big gulps because of insurance companies? No, I think he banned good big gulps because he's a goody to shoes and thinks he knows best for everybody. But when I hear things like that, I'm always like, okay, what's the financial incentive behind that? Because insurance companies could be like, you know what? People are dying all the time. And one of the big causes is obesity. And one of the big problems with obesity is people drink like big gulps.

22:04Like this is why you get it. Like this is why they made seat belt laws. They didn't make seat belt laws to make us safe. They make seat belt laws because of insurance companies. No, I thought you meant they're good. They're going to say they made seat belt laws because fatties can fit into them to wipe out the fatties. I'm like, all right, there's a eugenics thing going on here. I can see it. No, it's I mean, they're trying to outlaw big gulps. I feel like first of all, fuck you. Right. If I want a big gulp, I know it's bad for me. You know, if you outlaw big gulps, so you don't outlaw that Dunkin' Donuts Blizzard thing, you know that one?

22:35Oh god, what's it like? Is it another calories? No, no, no. It's probably like thousands, but it's 186 grams of sugar. Is that what it is? What is the it's so crazy. You see, it's a dude did a YouTube video and he shows the actual sugar. It's in the drink next to the drink. It's fucking half sugar. It's like three big backs and you think as you're drinking it can't be that bad. It's the thing. Big Macs are way better for you. Yes, which big backs are fucking like grass fed meat. Oh my, the thing that's insane is 14 donuts. I've had house that he's like, it's so crazy. He just filled it up with sugar.

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23:11So Jamie, see if you can find the video. That's the calories. It's only a thousand. That's not the blizzard though, is it? The blizzard's the big bad, big bad boy. See if you can find the video of the guy showing the sugar content in the blizzard. There's a video this dude does it online. I think it's the one. Yeah, that's it. Right there. Look at that fucking sugar. 181 grams of sugar. Look at all this sugar. Look, just imagine eating all that sugar in one session. Holy fuck, that's bad for you. Holy, it's just fucking. And dude, if you don't eat that way all the time, I had a milkshake, like a big ass chocolate milkshake.

23:59I don't really do that most of the time. And it was like, I hit with a tranquilizer dart. I was like, oh my gosh. Well, for me, I have the big sweet tooth. But if I sometimes I might go on a binge and you just eat bags of gummy candy, I am wired. Why for how long though? A while. It's a while. But you don't crash afterwards? No, I got a bad. I do this for if I'm bingeing, I'm like, that's right for that. Yeah, I don't binge anything today. I've heard people say that like eating a high carb meal before bed. I've heard people talk about doing that. They eat a high carb meal so that they're insulin spikes and then they just fucking crash afterwards.

24:32That I'm sleep issues. So I I feel bad people who do. It's a rough thing to have, man. I had honey smacks cereal. And the first ingredient is sugar. Yeah. And I'm thinking myself like, how are these being held together? Cause they don't look like sugar cubes. It's mostly sugar. How is that even physically possible? You used to be called sugar smacks. Oh yeah. Sugar bear was the name. They're so good. And then sugar golden crisp. Whatever they name. Well, we used to eat frosted flakes and then we would put sugar on the frosted flakes. Oh, oh, I like it. Charms still. They're really good. It's fucking good, man.

25:09It should be legal. And you mix it with your protein drinks. That way you get your protein. First of all, we people need access to real food primarily. But every now and then a fucking blizzard from Dunkin' Donuts should be on the menu. If you want to, you should be able to. It's ridiculous. But like, if you want to have a, you know what I love tiramisu. That's my favorite. And if I'm stuffed, it's the end of the meal. And they, you know, it's an Italian place and you open up the fucking tiramisu. But it's also kind of crazy. Because like tiramisu, I love ki -lampai. I love ki -lampai. I could have like three bags of candy.

25:43Like it looks like, because it's cake. You think, oh, it's not that bad for you. It's like, it's just, it's insane. Tirmisu. So much sugar. But it's so good. Oh my God. It's so good. Those lady fingers are dipped in espresso. What about in those, all those steak houses where their chocolate cake's like, 15m tall, it's a slice. And I'm like, how are you doing this mathematically? American steak houses. Like they are trying to kill you. They're trying to get you. Right, we have the tin fall hat. They're trying to stuff you as much as possible. Like if you, and I mean it in the best possible way.

26:17But if you go to like, in town, like say if you go to eddy -vis. Yeah. You go to eddy -vis and you get the lobster mashed potatoes and the real, you can't stop eating. You cannot stop eating. They have the calorie counts at eddy -vis. Do they? Which is useful. Well, my, if I don't have glasses on, I can't read that shit. They may get a little tiny little tiny numbers next to the food. The fuck out of here. But if, if you know, if you go to another country, they don't eat like us. Like we eat like slabs. Yeah. Yeah. We have giant -ass pizzas. That's why you should go to Japan. Oh, very, very much more discipline than us.

26:51I had, I had, I had whale eight ways. Oh, wow. You really? Oh, whoa, that's weird. Apparently whales like a poor people food there. Wow. But there are homies. Why are you eating our homies? Well, you're in Japan, you know? Got to do as the Japanese do. I wonder how smart they really are. They're pretty smart.

27:14They we have a weird definition of intelligence, right? Because we really favor things that can control their environment and change their environment like build houses and structures. Not necessarily ants do that. We don't think ants are smart. But we do. We do think they're smart. No, we don't. We think they're smart in a weird way. Well, they're skilled. It's not just they're skilled. They know how to make these chambers that ferment leaves and they have a, like the leaf cutter ants do. Yes. I was watching about them last night. That's pretty creepy. You're roughing up. Yeah. Yeah. Because there's a video about how to dis evolve because the fungus that's in the leaf cutter ant colony is not the same species any longer as the fungus that's outside.

27:50Right. So intelligence is not the right word. You're right. The right word is capable of incredible order and they have a pattern in their mind. They follow much like bees. Like you don't have to teach bees how to make beehives. They make beehives everywhere. Right. All over the fucking place. So it's so they're making a structure. What is it? There's some animal. Is it the pufferfish where they gave them like riddle in or they gave them like lexapro something and the patterns all changed. Oh, wow. Like they gave them some SSRI something or whatever it was and they changed how they like spider webs maybe it was and they changed how they oh yes.

28:25They definitely did that was spider webs. I saw them. There was a bunch of different things they did with spider webs and one of them they gave it LSD. Okay. They gave the spider webs. They the first spider is like wow. I got it legs and eight eyes. He remembers when he was like a shitty shopkeeper. Oh yeah, there it is. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. There it is. So normal marijuana marijuana sucks. It's terrible. Benzodine upper Benzodine. I don't know what is that. That's a good subject. It's a benzodiazepine right. Benzodiazepine is Xanax. What's a Benzodine Jamie? It's a good caffeine. Caffeine is all over the place.

29:02Chlorohydrate. Who's getting high on chlorohydrate? What is chlorohydrate? I have no idea. What's chlorohydrate, Jamie? What's Benzodine? How weird is that they pick chlorohydrate? You know, why wouldn't you pick alcohol? Well, you'd probably kill it right. Maybe, right? Yeah, I'll say it. Okay. Treat short term treatment of insomnia. So is benzodiazepine an upper? It must be. Benzos. That's a thing from the 70s. They were all. Well, I think that's benzodiazepine though. I think Benzodine. It's an effediment. Okay. Yeah. Benzodine. Okay. Yeah. I don't think that's Benzos though. What is a Benzodine?

29:38Benzos an upper. Is it? I thought it was Xanax. Because Benzodine is a real, we're like school moms. Yeah, there's extra. The diases. The benzes are depressants. That's interesting. That's the that's the that's the things. So that's Benzos and people say the term Benzos? Our downers. Okay. What's a black beauty? Because that's what they always take in the 70s. Is that speed? I think so. A lot of guys took speed and played pool. It was a big thing. The dies would play on effedemines. I know one time the gogos took a bunch of downers and they had to perform sitting down and chairs. Oh, that's a letter.

30:14Yeah. I'll lips and see how. Yeah. Black and half. Okay. Uppers. Yeah. Dextro and fetamine. Yeah. Okay. These guys who would play pool on it. They said they make some sea angles better. Well, because like speed. It's like riddling. I've never done riddling. No, but it were like a Adderol. Excuse me. I've never done Adderol. Neither of I, but you know, you're crazy focused. I'm scared of that. Why you scared focus? Well, the same reason why I don't do I've never done cocaine. We've never done cocaine. You haven't been in Japan. Haven't been done cocaine. First of all, sir, cocaine is illegal. Son of a bitch.

30:50Second of all, I think I'd like it. No, you wouldn't. Yeah. I'm sure it would. No, you wouldn't. Not to the extent that people ruin their lives. It's that I would ruin my life. Do put it's drug. Yeah, I'm not I'm not really interested in ruin my life. But I would recognize that this is probably a lot of fun. It's not. But how can some of you people say it is? I don't know. It's not fun at all for you. It's not it's it would not be fun for you. I promised. Have you ever heard the Buck Cherry song cocaine? All it up. Do you know that song? That song makes me want to do coke. The idea of coke is a lot.

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34:14There was a friend of mine told me a story. It was in alcohol synonymous meaning and the dude from Buck Cherry was there. This model went on stage and she was telling her sober stories and she was saying I was just doing coke and just fucking all these rock stars and he goes, yeah!

34:41I love these guys. Come on. I'm basically want to do blow. I interviewed Belinda Karler from the Go -Go's because she was a co -head and I said explain this to me because if it's a rock star who's a dude, he's having co -courts, he's with all these chicks. You're a girl. You're not having them run train on you. Literally, what would you do? As she said, I would go in my hotel room, take the phone off the hook, close the blinds, and pace like an animal. And I go, oh that sounds like a lot of fudge goes, oh yeah, I was a blast. So what I tell you, you're not going to like it. It's like giving yourself a panic attack.

35:20But some people love it. I know you well enough to tell you you're not going to like it. Good, thank you. It's not - I wasn't going to try it anyway. But not even at a bucket list thing? Nope. For the same reason why I won't try Adderall. That's different. Adderall you would like. That's the problem. Because that's upsides. Oh, okay. Yeah, the product is a lot of upsides. Yeah. And you're like, oh shit. Anything Adderall helps you like understand - I've never done it. Helps you understand your brain better. Because you're like, you see yourself like, oh this is how my brain's working and whatever.

35:50Coke is just like you just wait and do more coke. And I'm not, it's just I don't get it. Expand on that. So Adderall helps you know how your brain's working? You know how like when you're any kind of altered consciousness, you realize that your brain has a character of its own. And like most people aren't introspective and just take their thoughts for granted. But people who like work with psyched Alex, things like that realize, okay, there's ways I can have different perceptions, different focuses, different different senses of self in relation to the world, things like that. Adderall for my understanding, it's like that movie limitless.

36:23It was based on Adderall. Right. I thought that was based on - That other shit. New vigil? Yeah. Provigil and new vigil. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know either. Point being when you take it, you supposedly are super focused, but you realize, okay, I can fine tune like the speed of my thinking. So that's fascinating that your brain has like a bike has different speeds. If I'm using that metaphor correctly. I don't know way too many people that enjoy it on a regular basis. Yeah. And I had a friend who got hooked on it, and she was like, this is bad. It just seems to keep them going. Tee -ee -ee -ee -ee -ee -ee.

36:59All day. High achievers. Right. People really want to get them. Coke doesn't do that. A lot of journalists. And a lot of college kids now. A lot of college kids. Yeah. They used to be co -kids when we were kids now. They're an Adderall. I've asked friends who've done it in Gone Stages, I said never again. Anybody's ever like gone on stage on Adderall, they're like, no. What? Really? Well, yeah, like not having fun. Two tents. Yeah. Just not like silly. Not like you're at least. You're wired. You're a scratch of your jaw. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You're with like Coke. Yeah. I'm surprised you don't want to just try everything once.

37:31Yeah. What was that noise? It's the fun. Yeah. Yeah. I got a net fun special. You can't try everything once because you'd be trying too many things. There's not that many. You'd have to recover of responsibilities. But I do think that having all these things illegal or having most of them illegal is a fucking travesty. I agree with you as an anarchist, but then what happened in Portland or wherever Seattle it was was a real problem. Yeah, but that also coincided with terrible leadership, where the mayor was saying when they took over a giant swath of the city that it was the summer of love, remember that crazy shit?

38:12Those people were retarded. That all the fucking philosophy up there is so stupid. It's a suicide cult. It's legitimately are going to destroy their society. And they're all like, yay diversity. They'll be waving their fucking pride flags as the city sinks into the ocean. They're out of their fucking minds. So you can't look at that place and say, this is what happens. You make drugs legal. No, that's what happens. You make drugs legal in a place run by maniacs. A place run by people who think it's fine to have tents everywhere and give people money to shoot up and give them clean needles and give them money every month to stay homeless.

38:50I hear you, but my point is you and I both know a lot of people who are like, wait, you put the psychedelics, right? And if psychedelics become fully legal and corporations take over, there's going to be downsides. I think if the corporations do the psychedelics, they'll probably have a different approach to how they interact with humanity. If the CEOs and all these people realize, like you are going to die. And if you're wasting all your time trying to squeeze as much money as humanly possible at every person that interacts with your company, you're not living a harmonious life. And it doesn't mean that you can't make a lot of money and sell things.

39:24But you can make a lot of money and sell things with a psychedelic capitalist perspective where you're not trying to do evil. You're just trying to be fair about it. I agree with everything you said. I'll go ahead and talk to you. It's not you, but I'm saying this plenty of people who if they start getting on these drugs and being introspective, they're not going to like what they see. And there's going to be a lot of things that come up and it's not going to be an easy transition toward a better person for some of that. Much harder to get a good burger. That's just going to quit those jobs. I'm talking about like these corporate people.

39:58I understand. And also like you, maybe even the corporate people, like look what they did with housewives and all the speed that they were on. Oh yeah, but that's the housewives fault. They liked it too much. Yeah, but they were told this is a diet pill. Well, they better that or lobotomy. Like we only have a few options. I don't think that I don't think those with this little helper. Remember from Rolling Stone song? I mean, they stopped doing lobotomies in 67. So they were doing lobotomies for like 50 fucking years. Scramble and people. They did it to Rosemary Kennedy. Didn't they do it because she was promiscuous?

40:26Well, I also she was kind of a slow. And the thing with the lobotomy, did you know about this? You have to do one the person's conscious. Yeah. So she had to count backwards. And then she stopped being able to talk. And then they pretended she's on a physibatic for 50 years. And then they did the special Olympics to kind of because they felt bad. Oh my God. Evil, evil family. Well, it's an evil practice that that thing that they would do for people when they had troubles. I love the idea that I it's just so insane that like there's no precision really. You're stabbing them in the a scrambling brain.

40:58And hoping you hit the right spot. That's not a thing. I think they're going to look at that the same way they look at the way they will look at that now. They're going to look at sex chains for kids in the future. Yes. Oh, yes. They're going to look at all of this. Munchowsons by proxy. Hmm. Also, there's a clearly like a mind virus. And it is like a mind virus. I mean, that term mind virus. This sounds like you shouldn't say that because a virus doesn't exist in the mind. It's a different kind of thing than an actual biological virus. Ideas. It has the same function. It really does. Ideas go viral.

41:29Yeah, they do. That's the thing. The idea is going viral. Right. The thing is when you and I were kids as dinosaurs, every girl or 90 % of them had an eating disorder. Because she was uncomfortable. Her body is changing on one male attention. Having that sense of control. It was very common. Very common. A lot of people didn't grow out of it, but most of them did. Right. Now, if you're uncomfortable with your body, you're going to be shifted down in this direction in many cases. In many such cases. And it's really just, Carol Markowitz, who's a journalist, she's a neighbor of mine in Brooklyn.

42:00She said a majority of kids in her daughter's class were identifying as some variant of queer. So she's like, I'm out of here. I'm going to Florida. So strange. Stranges in the word. And the thing is, but it is also strange with eating disorders, you can get over it. Right. This is going to cause permanent damage. Did you see what this evil demon from the LA Times? There was a woman girl in Chloe Cole, who was a detransitioner. I've heard of her. And they had this whole hit piece on her. Oh, she's being come beloved by the right. It's like, this is someone telling, she's not unique telling her story about like, I wasn't old enough to make these decisions and I'm fucked for life.

42:39I'm never going to have sexual pleasure. And my body's changed. And I regret this enormously. And I thought I wanted this and I was wrong. And it's like, oh, there's just a hatchet piece. I think I forgot the girl's name. It's just so horrible. Could you imagine? I ratio that way. If it was instead the right that was promoting this, how the left would react. The right used to. It was a conversion therapy. This is their version. Right. Praying the gay way. Yeah. Yeah. But not as extreme in the sense that you're not doing surgery on people, especially on children and giving them hormone blockers.

43:10But imagine if that was the right perspective, was akin to Iran's perspective. So in Iran, you have a very high number of transsexuals. By law. Because it's illegal to be gay. Right. They know imagine if that was going on with the right here. They're saying, no, you can't be gay, but you can be trans and you can become a woman. Also. And so they're encouraging it and then profiting off it and then shaming anyone that detransitions like that person. Imagine if that was all being done by the right. But people would think it's so fucking evil. The thing that's also crazy is everyone who questions their gender is trans.

43:47No one just has issues with their gender. Not only that, there's a lot of data that shows that if you let them just leave them alone and let them go through puberty and become an adult, they usually become gay. And then a lot of gay people are like, hey, this is homophobic. This idea is homophobic. This idea that these people are actually in the wrong body. Like, no, they're gay. And I also talk about this a lot. There's this complete insane, insane pretence that taking hormones, even the hormones of your own gender has no downside. So if a male takes testosterone, he's not going to have any bad side effects.

44:22If a female takes estrogen, there's no bad side effects. When women are pregnant and their hormones are their mess, it's all upside. But they pretend that like, oh, we just give this person hormones, it's only going to be a good thing. It's like, not just a huge cost. But the blockers, the blockers are crazy thing. Because they are literally chemical castration drugs that they would use for pedophiles. So same drugs, but also Joe, the lie that you can just start puberty later. It's a lie. Absolutely a lie. You will be altered forever. As I never develop. As I improve, if your growth is stunted as a kid, you don't get to grow your full height later.

44:58There's a window. Same thing with learning language. These kids were feral and raised by wolves. They don't later become scholars. They lose the capacity to speak. So the brazen lies of, well, you can just start puberty later. If that's what you feel like. Look at Jim Ness. The dimension is coming from the right. Imagine. So this is why people are so weird. And why is this politicized? It's crazy. Right? It is crazy. Why is this? If there's kids who have mental illness of some kind, let's get them help. Right. And everyone's different. Right. Everyone's different. And the solution isn't necessarily give a girl a mastectomy when she's 14.

45:35That seems insane. Do you know there's a new one called Newter? What? And they remove, make you look like a Barbie or a Kendall? Oh. And Joe, you know why I made that why I win? Because you know it's here in Austin. The clinic is here. Oh my god. This is what happens when your friends with Deborah sell you learn about these things. Wait a minute. Really? It's called Newter. Yeah. How many people have they done this too? I don't know. I don't know. It's here in Austin. The guy's very proud of himself. Oh my god. Oh yeah. God, that's so weird. No, it's very normal.

46:18Yeah. Jesus Christ. Yep. So this is like when you go to visit the call, see him and you're like, what happened to these people? This is us. This is us. It's just we're very fortunate to be in the middle of it and watching it all play out. There's that meme of Jesus. Let's back to the car. He's like, he's flooded the asteroid. No, he got flooded again. Oh, that's funny. I saw it sending the asteroid. I saw it the other day. I guess there's a bunch of those. What the fuck, man? It's when you're dealing with the thing is the gas lighting is what bothers me. What all bothers me? It all bothers me the fragility of the human mind.

46:56You know that we're so everybody forever was like Kamala Harris is the worst vice president. She's the least popular vice president of all time. And then in a moment, a moment in time, all of a sudden she's our solution. She's our hero. Everybody's with her. All these social media posts about her. Try googling a negative story on her. You won't find one. So. Ta -da. You've got me started off as a Harris. So. They've been doing this live for a year. So in 2019, our pal Tulsi. Absolutely nuked her in that second debate. And if you looked at charts at the time, she's kind of off of her Harris is doing okay.

47:45First of it, she comes out, Joe Biden, your racist. The Democrats were looking for a turnip to Bernie Sanders that wasn't Biden. She starts going up in the polls, right? Second of it comes out, Tulsi being a good home. No wine knows how to roast the pig. This completely slams her. Not only that, she has no counter punch. She goes on Anderson Cooper and she's like, well, I'm a top tier candidate. So of course, people are going to take shots at me. That's her answer. She immediately starts going down in the polls. It's that day you can see it on the chart. I have in my Twitter. All the articles at the time that did a autopsy on Kamala Harris's failed campaign didn't mention Tulsi once.

48:19Yeah, it was BBC, LA Times, Reuters, New Yorker. A guy from the Washington Post just did a piece looking back on her campaign. Didn't mention Tulsi either. They completely pretend it didn't happen. Well, it just shows you that what they're looking for is not what they say they're looking for. Yes. Because she is a strong woman. She is a person who served overseas twice. She in a medical unit. She got to see people blown up by the war. She was a congresswoman for eight years. She is a person of course. She's everything you want. All those things you want. Maybe you don't want her. Because she's not for war.

48:57Yes. Well, she's also just not willing to play ball. There's a game that's being played. And if you're like, hey, you're not supposed to fucking move the ball. I'm like, oh, look at this bitch over here. Like, get out of here. You're going to fuck up our game. It's not real democracy. It's controlled parties. Did you see that piece by Seema Hirsch that dropped over the weekend about the coup? Yes. So it's explained to people. What Seema Hirsch. I don't know if he's right. It seems to be right a lot. And he was right about the Nord Stream pipeline, right? What he, so what I was saying and a lot of other people were saying is the big issue is how do you get Biden out of the White House?

49:35So here's Biden's case. He's like, look, I got Trump out of the White House last time. I'm only behind two or three points in the polls. Kamala's polling worse than me in like eight out of ten polls. I won these delegates. Why the hell should I back down? And that's a very solid case. Jill, for the first time in her life, people care about her. She matters. As Hunter put it, I have it exactly here. She's a selfish, silly, entitled content. That was how Hunter described her. Whoa. Yeah, yeah, we have the text. And then all the public pressure, Biden, you got to drop out. Biden got dropped out. Biden got dropped out.

50:08Nancy Pelosi is a gangster. I wouldn't want to fuck with her. I wouldn't want to fuck with Mitch McConnell. These people don't mess around. And everyone said, or a lot of people said, they're going to have to go to threats. Because why else would he step down? He's earned it. That presidency and he's earned the nomination. But if there was ever a time to invoke the 25th Amendment, wouldn't you think this is the time? Sure. But I don't think they, then, hold on. Hold on, here's the thing. Let's talk about this. So Seymour Hirsch who's been around DC since the 60s. I believe he wrote the dark side of Kamala if I'm mistaken.

50:38He had a thing on his sub -stack that goes, Biden got the call. And it was Obama. Pelosi, former security at the house. Chuck Schumer, a majority leader. I keep Jeffries current House Minorator leader of the Democrats in the House. And he said, we got Kamala on board to invoke the 25th. If you don't drop the nomination, you know, that's going to happen. The thing is, you were saying, they're not invoking the 25th. He's still president. Right. But I'm saying, if there was a time that they were going to do that, this would be that time. It was that time four years ago. Right. But it's been that time.

51:12But clearly now. Right. More than ever before. Like it's deteriorating. No, it's deteriorating. I don't think he's gotten that much worse. Oh, he's gotten a lot worse. There's a video that compares him from 2019 to 2024. It's a market difference. Yeah, but I don't think there's a big day between 2022 and 2024. There's like a two and a half hour compilation of the campaign in 2020, where he forgets Obama's name. Yeah, that's true. He had those gaps back then, but they're constant now. Like he's barely hanging on. I don't know. He was fine to stay the union. I think it's like sundowning, you know?

51:43Okay. Yeah. Yeah. What? Do you think there's a body double? That was, that guy walked very differently than Biden. Very different. He saw that. He saw that. He saw a taller. It's a Scott Adams Twitter. I saw that. I'm like, am I Alex Jonesing today? No, he's a lot taller. Yeah. No, he's physically taller. Yeah. Okay. He walks way better. Like as someone who, like you watch Biden walk, he had a stiffness. Like death was coming for him. And before everyone else. Freaks out has their math traps and their heads go off. I think there should be more presidential Biden doubles because one president almost got murdered.

52:15So if we have ways to keep them safe, let's use them. Okay. That's a good thing to say. We cover our ass there. And now here's another thing to say. In the interest of national security, like let's imagine a scenario where Biden is deathly ill and Kamala is not really capable of taking over as president right now. And there is, you know, like who's next speaker of the house? So Nancy Pelosi, no, who's it now? Mike Johnson. Mike Johnson, right? So that would be him next. So that's a dangerous moment in terms of national security. Even though everyone knows that Biden's, you know, really having problems and it's not actually running the show, you know, I could see why they would want to use some body doubles for that.

52:59Of course. You know, if the guy's in a hospital somewhere, but this guy, let's let's look at it. Because this guy, please play it. He don't walk like him. He's taller than him. It looks like he gained, like went back in time seven or eight years. This is the weekend of Bernie's like prequel. Well, this is like master gaslighting and propaganda. That's what it is. Like they show you that there's, you know, what was it in 2000? And I forget what year it was where I believe it was during the Obama administration. Look at the size of this guy. This isn't the split I saw. So much bigger. Look how big he is.

53:35He's so much bigger than Jill. He's so much bigger. Like he gained the legitimate six inches. Look how tall he looks. Look at it. What Jamie, there's the first one. She's wearing heels as well. Jamie, this one has Scott Adams Twitter. This is from his Twitter. Oh, but let's watch. It's the one he's walking to the helicopter. Let's watch this again. Yeah, that's another one. Yeah, it's another one. That's a similar one too. Where you see, let's see what more time. Let's see him walk walk again. So it looked how much bigger he is than Jill. Healthy shit. He towers over her. He didn't use to tower over her.

54:02See this guy flexed on the other one. And also, if you look, look at her. She's wearing high heels. See? Oh, wow. Okay, and he's towering over her. That is a much taller person. It is a picture. So maybe they hooked him up with some fucking secret sauce. It's going to keep him going and he'll be back. Maybe they have ability to go back, like biologically. Take you back. Oh, wow. Yeah. Giant, giant difference. Well, is that because she could be behind him? So they know this and she also has high heels on, man. No, no, but on the left. It could be that she's dead. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

54:33That's a different human. Look at the size difference of the torso. So then walking to the helicopter is the one where it looked really good. Go back to that please. Look at the size differences in the torso themselves from the top of his shoulders to where it's... Oh, look on the buttons. Yeah, look at the white of the shirt. Yes. Just look at the size difference. Look how much longer that human is on the left. Now, it may be Biden. Listen, they might have some wild shit that brings you back from the dead. But like medical science is getting, like there's some people out there working on some wild stuff.

55:02But maybe they just fucking jolted them up with some Wolverine juice. Oh, Wolverine juice is going to make it taller. But here's the thing. In the same way in the 60s, if you sat on the show and said, LeBerratchie's gay, people would yell at you because you've never seen him sucking a dick. Right. People right now will be like, it's impossible why would they do a body double? No, I don't think they would be. I don't think they would be anymore. I think so. No, you don't think there's a lot of people listening right now who think you're crazy. My parents were like regular people. You can't listen to the show.

55:30They got 50 now, they don't. But if they did, they're boopers. They're full on. They're full on. Listen, listen. You gotta keep Trump out of the White House. But this, what you're seeing right here, it really looks like a different person. Now, why are we saying that? Because it actually does look like a different person. We're not making something up. Okay, I don't do that. I don't pretend. I don't lie. I'm not a type of person that looks at something like that. And like, I have a propaganda thing I'm trying to push. Like, when people say, this version of Joe Biden is the best version ever. Intellectually, I'm telling you he's on point.

56:07That's not real, right? I don't do that. We were also told for years that these are selectively edited clips and deep fakes. That's what, no, they call them cheap fakes. Yeah, cheap fakes. That's the shoes go on them cheap first of all. It's a very expensive technology. What was the money to produce? The cope with the debate. First, I heard people say it was the fault of the lighting. I don't know what kind of lighting, unless it's some kind of space lasers. After his bedtime, but what kind of lighting makes you say we beat Medicare? Then people said the mic was fucked up. Well, if your mic is fucked up, why can't you breathe?

56:38So it was amazing how all the explanations didn't explain what we all saw with our eyes. Well, we can't gaslight. You know, we got on, I know everyone's doing this because this is how everyone's done this. I don't think you can do it this way anymore. I think this political gaslight and they do is genuinely bad for them. Not just bad for everyone and bad for the entire civilization, but genuinely bad for them. You can't do that anymore. You can't just say it. Everyone knows it's not true. Not everyone. God, so many people do. And so many people, your age and my age know. Yes. All right, I think everyone who, like right now, everyone who's 40 and under is fucking super skeptical of all that everyone.

57:23God damn a lot of people do. A lot, but not everyone. You're right. You're right. I'm exaggerating. But there's many more than during my parents age when they were in their 40s. Infinitely more. You know why? Yeah, social media. Elon. Elon. Yes. That's a big, big party. I always make this point. You don't need a majority. You only need an alternative. As long as there's one, like that little kid who said that emperor has no clothes. Yeah. As long as there's one outlet where you could be like, this seems a little weird than all of a sudden the truth can come out. Or at least in good questions. The dude has literally saved free speech.

57:57Yes. And that sounds so stupid to some people that are against it. Like, Oh my God, you think did not season hate speech and me? Listen, it's not good that people want to type racist things. It's not good. It's not good that people target specific human beings. It's not good. It's also not good. If you don't know those people exist and if people can't counter those people in those comments and if people can't highlight how egregious some of the things they're saying or how awful some of the things they're saying are and also get real information about like what's really going on in Venezuela what's really going on in El Salvador what's everywhere.

58:36And I'm also sitting here as a Jewish person who went to Jews school to tell you that the idea that you can criticize George fucking Soros who's a billionaire because it's anti -Semitic. Well, that's the old misogynist tactic, right? What do you... The misog... There was a guy who was a misogyn agent who talked about this like what they would do if they found out there was a journalist that was saying Israel is attacking this. You label him anti -Semite. Yeah, but the point is they don't do just anti -Semitism. They do it with racism. They do it with homophobia. And we're seeing it right now with Officer Soros.

59:01No, what I was saying is well for George Soros to be anti -Semitic you're anti -Semitic. If you're going after Officer Harris you're either racist or sexist or ablest. Right. So they will use... Just to retard. Oh, Jesus. She's literally retarded. I mean... Ukraine is a country in Europe and Russia is another country and a powerful country and Russia invaded Ukraine and that's wrong. What's really important is what can be unburdened by what has been. I think of her as America's wine mom which seems like she's 3D by noon and she's got the three faces of wine mom she's got happy drunk. Oh my god!

59:41This cereal's got to wrap it on it. It's so great! Cackling, cackling, cackling. Then there is trying to drunk at work where you're trying to make sense but you don't. Space is around a soul. And you're nights a soul and inspires a soul. And then there's... I'm being stern so you don't realize how plaster I am and I'm making a point. That little girl was me. Now I'm gonna go upstairs and don't knock on the door because I'm gonna pass out. So those are her three ways she talks and those are the wine mom faces. Do you think they have her medicated? Because there was a guy that was speculating that some of the things that she says the way she's sort of disconnected sometimes.

1:00:19And she goes on these rambles that it's indicative of certain anti -anxiety medication. I do not know if this is true. See if you can find that because it really shouldn't say that about my future president. Yeah, I feel she's gonna win. No, she's not. She can win. She absolutely can win. I do not think she's going to win because the more she talks like in 2020, she... How bad do you have to be that you can't even make Iowa? She couldn't even compete with the mayor of South Bend. I even... I feel like we are in this very bizarre time where people are giving in to the bullshit in a way that I'd never suspected people would before.

1:00:56And this is one... They just want no Trump, no matter what and they're willing to gaslight themselves to think that... And by the way, I think Hillary could win. If Hillary jumped back in... I'd been saying that for months. If Hillary jumped back in, I think the problem was also the money because there was the two... I was like $250 million in the campaign fund that has... It really works if she's on the ticket. Right. So that's part of the problem. But I feel like Hillary could win. She won the popular vote in 2020. Hillary, I was saying this for a year in different shows and she would win it one...

1:01:29Michelle Obama could win too. If she wanted to do it, you don't think so? I think that's kind of this... You sound like your parents. I think that says boom right here. She doesn't want it. I'm not saying that she would be awesome at it. But I think... I think anyone can win if either party... Whoever the nominee is. Like you pretty... Even Chris Christie could have won if he's the Republican nominee. It's possible. Thought that Trump getting shot would like... That's it. Elections over. But it's like... They... Memory hold that so quick. You would have thought Trump getting shot would have had four years, eight years, a corporate journalist talking about hate speech, causing violence to be like, let's take a step back.

1:02:03And that went for what? A week? They did take a step back for a little bit. For a week. And then they went right back out. You want to talk to this memory holding? Yeah. With the insanity of the... Who's that? That was Elon who put up. Like if you Google President Donald, it says President Donald Reagan. No, I tried it. What happened? Maybe they fixed it. It said President Donald Trump. Okay. Well, he had a screenshot. So I'm saying it in the phone. No, no. I mean, what... It's based on a lot of things, right? Like what people are searching for. I would imagine that the assassination attempt on Trump would be the first one that you would see.

1:02:36Yeah. The assassination attempt on President. Right. Maybe Trump, because that's the most recent. Yes. But it's not. And most newsworthy. But it does show it. You just have to type it all in, which is interesting. Because that little difference between what you can find and what you get presented immediately has a huge shift in the way people access information. And this is Robert Epstein's work. The creepy line. The documentary I've went to watch it. Yeah. And this thing is very real. And what it is is, like if you try to Google certain negative stories, like negative stories on people, it will overwhelm you with positive stories.

1:03:13It'll take a long time before you get to the negative stories. Yeah. He explained it is if you, here's how they can tip the scale. Yeah. If I Google Hillary Clinton, and I have it, so Google gives fairly positive stories about Hillary as the first 10 results. You're not going to go the second page. If I Google Donald Trump, and Google gives you seven negative stories, it's going to move the needle a little bit toward her. Quite a bit. Quite a bit. Like if you're a person who's on the fence, you're like, maybe Donald Trump's not a bad guy. And then you Google him. And then you start reading some of these like pieces that they've written about him.

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1:07:06Yeah. It's like, people are questioning whether or not he actually got shot because his ear healed. Can I, I gotta tell you something else about him. He was on, who's the Fox guy who just died with Stu Varnie a couple years ago? And he goes, Stu, that's the N word. You know what the N word is, right Stu? And Stu's like, oh, it goes nuclear, the nuclear word. And I was on the Blaze Glenbex network for midterms. And Trump calls in. And he's like, that's the N word nuclear. I'm like, are we really doing this right now? Like, Trump is talking about the N word and he needs nuclear. Yeah, it was, it was nuts.

1:07:41It's hilarious. What is this? Trump did not walk out to 50 cents. But rather do a country singer. So is that fake? Those videos are fake. We walked out.

1:07:55Oh. Yeah, these, these theaters go around the internet. Oh, wait, wait, no, post it. Or was, no, I thought the guy was saying it in this belief.

1:08:11That's him going out to that song. Wait, scroll down because it says under it, there was an explanation in text. What does it say there? Oh, it was not. It was a fake. Oh, they faked it. Oh, damn it. Well, now we know what he should do next. So he definitely should have came out to that. That's hilarious. Oh, my god, there would have been an epic. This Fiddy set was tweeting about him. Fiddy set have his face at his concert. So he had like, you know, he has that image of him in the back. And he put Donald Trump's head over his body. But do you know what? Maybe that's fake, too. There's a big sea change because even three years ago, if you had said Trump kind of sucks, I don't really like him.

1:08:47He had nobody's being president. Your Trump supporter. Because unless you say he's the worst thing happened to America, your Trump supporter, right? Right. So for Mark Zuckerberg to go on camera and be like, this guy was kind of a badass. And that was awesome. And not to have any, and to be feel safe to say that, not to have any negative consequences. That's a big deal in terms of the conversation moving. Well, I do not think that Mark Zuckerberg from my interactions with him was very comfortable with the FBI telling them to suppress the 100 Biden laptop story. Let's talk about this because there's a lot of people who I don't blame them think, oh, Boo, you're forced me to do it, but he's happy to do it anyway.

1:09:23So you were saying that he actually, it was like, well, he brought it up. Okay. When I asked him what they did with it, he told the whole story. He didn't try to hide from it at all. And he said they basically reduced its, the ability to spread it. Right. You could post it, you could read it, you could interact with it. But they reduced its reach by like 50 % or something like that or whatever the number was, which I don't understand how you do that or what are you doing? Well, I don't know. I'll let that go. You can understand because if you, on Facebook, which I might recommend it. No, no, not recommend it.

1:09:53I'm not a Facebook member for this reason. Your feed, I don't see all my friends posts. So if they just have it post 50 % less, it's very easy to do. Right. I think that's Instagram as well. Yes, correct. Same company. Same sort of deal. Yeah. Yeah. You see that with people. That's what Shadow Banting is. Right. It's difficult for people to see your shit. Right. They do that on purpose. Of course they do. And they can't do it by accident. No, I mean, it's a real thing. I don't know if he's comfortable with the government telling them to do something that turned out to be an actual true story. Is that what he said?

1:10:24No. I mean, I have to imagine about him saying that that's one of the most badass things that I've ever seen. He's got a reasonable perspective because it was one of those badass things. Whether you love Donald Trump or not, let's pretend he's from another country you have no stake in the game. That guy almost getting shot and raising his fist up like that. And there's so many fucking weird things about that story. The story of the assassination itself. You should be, everyone should be really uncomfortable with the fact that that happened and not like saying, even good shot. Yeah, I miss in the whole point.

1:10:58I tweeted this out. I got which the White House were freaking out about this as much there about climate change because this would be a big moment to be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like this can never happen again. But when Steve Scalise got shot, they were like, and then went back to business. Like didn't shit happen. Also, why were they streaming it? They don't stream his campaign things. They do a lot. Do they do it a lot? Oh, yeah. They do it a lot. Oh, yeah. Not CNN. CNN did this one. Yeah. Yeah, I kind of added some problems to this too. What are they saying? They said they were unclear on whether he was actually shot pierced by a bullet or a fragmented portion of one.

1:11:35Oh, so it could have been a ricochet. That's right. Yeah, because I know there was something that got hit. There was a video that I saw of a railing that got hit. So it might have been a piece of the bullet that hit his ear. But also, how are we not seeing this kid's social media? Right. Also, did you read the story about the examination of his house that it was completely scrubbed? There was a silverware. It was like spotless. Like a team went over it and scrubbed it. Biff. Oh, wow. Yeah. Also, did you hear the story about how someone using ad tracking? So they can find out where you're going, just based on ad tracking.

1:12:17And they found that someone from a building near the FBI offices was regularly visiting this kid back before. Oh, seriously? Yes. Yeah, find that, Jamie. I just got the video about the house. I'm trying to see. We also don't even know how many of the last videos of the house first. And then we'll go to the other. But also just the sidebar. We don't know. MK Ultra was a real thing. To think they don't do that anymore. Oh, come on. So I believe we had people that participated in that securing of it. There were bomb assets that we provided. Mr. Chairman, can I have 30 more seconds? Yeah, yeah. I've let everybody count.

1:12:58OK. On the night of, since then, none. Did you get any reports from any of your agents of anything fishy at the home? I was briefed on. Was there any silverware found in the home or trash? I have nothing in the briefing that I was given. I guess maybe he's reporting on that report that. Yeah, he must be reporting on that report. So that's not a very incomplete. Remember the Las Vegas shooter? Yeah. That's a weird one too. They just complete for it. Just stop talking about it. Yeah. There's a lot of those that you go, what the fuck is that? What is that? Why do they do that? The fact that we're talking about January 6th for years, and this is just like that?

1:13:35Yeah. That whole January 6th was a lot of people. And the thought of it is. But this is a presidential game. Did it come out? Oh, it's all fucked, man. It's fucked. It's weird. The whole thing is weird. This kid had these devices and remote controls for detonators, like very sophisticated stuff. He had three overseas bank accounts and cryptid accounts. Wait, is that true? That I didn't know. Yeah, find that out. It three encrypted accounts, I believe I read. Why? This is stuff I read. I hear you, but the point is, this should be what CNN and Fox lead with every night. Oh, yeah. Like this should be the scandal.

1:14:14Right. Remember, what is this? We knew about a judge, what was his name? Was it Judge's lead? Yeah, we knew about Judge Alito sneakers. Like every detail of that trial was success. But here, it's just a thing. Right. Well, we still don't know what's on the Epstein client list. Right. Or was it 80 Congress people had sexual harassment suits that are under seal? How about the 51 intelligence former intelligence agents? Zero cons. Zero cons. That the 100 Biden laptop was bullshit. And zero consequences for any of that. The, um, I think the account thing might not have been real. They might have backtrack on that.

1:14:50Oh, did they? It just says that it might have been linked to an online gaming site or something that might have been a fake account. So why he has accounts? I'm trying to, I'm trying to understand. Okay, see what you get. So it's hard to know what's true and what's not true. And it's hard to know what's bullshit, what's not bullshit. But what we definitely know is that they knew about this kid in advance that he had a range finder. They saw him walking around with a range finder that somehow I know that he got up onto that fucking roof that they knew he was on that roof and that they saw him with a rifle and didn't shoot him.

1:15:22Yeah. And he got off three shots before they shot him. I heard he took horse paste. No way. Some bitch. What a lunatic. He's definitely a right -winger. Interesting. Maybe he's a never -trumper. But he was registered for the Republican party, which doesn't mean anything. But he donated to some... Yeah, left thing. I donated to Biden, I believe. The whole thing is really squirrely and it just makes you wonder. What about that whole sloped roof bullshit? That's wild. What the fuck are you talking about? It's too dangerous to be on that sloped roof. Meanwhile, they had snipers on another roof that was sloped.

1:15:56Even if not, it's like figured out. It's the president. Yeah, I mean, they had that kid. They were looking at him. They saw what he was doing. Here's the thing, though. Okay, I gotta put this out there. He's going back to Butler to give another rally at the same place. It'd be really funny if, you know, at this point, it's kind of like what she's asking for it. You know what I mean? If they get him against the same spot. Yeah, it's like, come on. This time, he's a drone. That's the... The kid had iron sights on his rifle. Which is that mean. Which is interesting. You did not have a scope. Okay.

1:16:28So, iron sights are... You're lining it up like this. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, I think you said iron sights. Okay, yeah. Iron sights. So, you didn't have a scope. But it wasn't a long shot. It was like 150 yards. And if he went set a mass instead of a head shot, he probably would have killed him. I mean, I don't know if Trump wears a bulletproof vest. Oh, that's a good... Yeah, that's a good question. Yeah. Probably at this point, hopefully he does. Hopefully he does. But if that guy just shot center mass, he'd hit him. He would have hit him. I mean, you're dealing with the variance of this or variance of this, right?

1:17:00And so the bullet... That Trump's a big dude. If the bullet did nick his ear, it might have been a piece of shrapnel. Who knows? But it definitely shot someone behind him and killed him. Kill that one guy. I was a firefighter. Did you see Joy and Reed? What'd she say? Biden survived COVID. So it's basically kind of like the same. Yeah, they're so gaslit up. They don't even know what the fuck they're saying. They don't even know how ridiculous it is. And Jen Socky's there, it's nodding like a -ha. Oh, yeah. Same thing. Because she knows better. So she's just like, oh shit. Like, I got to kind of play ball.

1:17:31Yeah. Joy, we need to jam. She's a good dude. How does she have a worse hairline than Joe Biden? How is that fucking possible? The whole fucking online pundit thing is so strange. Or excuse me, on television pundit thing is so strange. What way? Well, it's just still like it's - It's a contrived clear. It's contrived. So obviously, it's not obvious. When we were in the 80s, when Haksa, Jim Duggan, got arrested with the Iron Sheik, people were like, what? He's not actually from Iran, it's not a terrorist. Like, that was a moment, don't you remember? Yes, I do remember that. So for a lot of people, or they'll tell you, you don't know that this celebrity takes steroids to gain 60 pounds in three months for this movie.

1:18:16Maybe he's just got great genetics. And it's just like guys. But that's how people think. Yeah. What's on their screen is they think their screen is a window. Right. And they've been infantalized. Yes. Over decades of this bullshit being pumped in their face. It's so funny how few people even know what MK Ultra was. The government really did try to make assassins and try to - They tried to - All of a sudden they're on their own people. Oh yeah. Try them all. It comes with people. I've said this, I think, on the show before. You can go after the president, the Republicans, the Democrats, the university's journalists, whatever you want.

1:18:52Only when you question CAA, you're a crazy person. Everything else is fine. It's on the table. CAA, you must be a crazy person. You're not like - Yeah, you must be. They're looking out for your best interests. And even if you told them Google MK Ultra or Mocha Bird and they look it up themselves, it still won't permeate. Well, they'll say that was that. That, yeah. They don't do that anymore. Those are 60s. People are just - There's a lot of oversight now. There's racism. Yes. A lot of racism. There's oversight now. You can't do that anymore. It's insane. You don't have to worry about it. Yeah.

1:19:22I mean, that's when people want to talk about what the deep state is. That's the deep state. The people that can pull the strings that aren't elected officials. Jager Hoover. Yeah. He was more powerful. Who's accountable to nobody? And you were - Did he really wear dresses and shit? That's bullshit, right? It's one of those things that they put out there and it's this bullshit. There's no source. He didn't forget to him. This is after he died. It came out. Supposedly. But you would think that someone's always going after someone's secrets who want to have a few secrets of his own. Well, yeah, I'm sure he has some - Especially back then.

1:19:52I'm sure he had some secrets. So that was the ultimate one. That he really is a cross -trusser. Which a good thing he didn't put him on hormones, right? Or maybe it's a bad thing. Maybe it's a bad thing. Yeah, because he would come to himself down. He would be a lot nicer. Maybe. Yeah. Or maybe we got hysterical. I got down to a hysterical. Like Nixon bitch laughing in the awful office. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Maybe we just start really using some of that information that he has. I want to make a plea. OK. To the president. Because I know he doesn't - Which one? Joe Biden. I know he doesn't list this show, but I know his staff does.

1:20:28So Donald Trump at the Libertarian Convention a couple months ago promised to Free Ross Albrich if he gets elected. Did he really? Yes. He made this - He made this commitment. So I'm saying to the Biden administration how you can make a full -out of Trump, you can take this issue off the table. It's probably going to be the margin you hamptured. There's a lot of people who are Ross supporters and tech circles. You can Free Ross Albrich today. You got Julian Assange out of jail with a lot of institutional opposition. No one has institutional opposition to Ross. Yep. He's not killed anyone. Not been accused of killing anyone.

1:21:04He's doing double life. Even though he's not a violent criminal, there's no concern or recidivism. So Mr. President, make an asshole out of Trump. You can say Republicans promise Democrats deliver and you could Free Ross Albrich today. Commute a sentence. There's a lot of weirdness in that case, too, right? Yes, there is. There's a lot of weirdness in terms of entrapment. Yes, and he's been, he's, he's, it's as if he killed a bunch of people that have double life. It's crazy. So this is something that's be very easy for him to do and get a lot of people to support or at least stay home and that's the poor Trump.

1:21:34So every vote counts. Silk Road was a way that you could buy pretty much anything. It was like a black market website. Yeah, you could buy pretty much anything. It's like Torrenting, but with drugs and weapons, whatever. Wasn't it worth their murders for hire and stuff, too? I think there were. Yeah, yeah. He's not been accused of that. We're charged, that certainly. But it's not one of the things that he had signed off on someone getting assassinated. That's one of these rumors. Is that it? That's not what they charged them with at all. No. And it's like, if that was the thing, why are you charging with that?

1:22:03What did they charge them with? I don't even remember. What was it, Jamie? It was some bullshit. Ulberg was charged with engaging in a continuing criminal enterprise narcotics conspiracy conspiracy to commit money laundering, conspiracy to commit computer hacking. On August 21, 2014, a superseding indictment added three additional charges of February 4, 2015, Ulberg was convicted on all counts after a jury trial that had taken place on January 15, 2015. So that's a double life. Plus 40 years. With that plus plus of the parole. Two life sentences plus 40 years. Nine years he's been in jail now.

1:22:39So just in case science comes along, and they could keep him alive forever. He's also ordered to pay about 183 million in restitution based on the total sales of illegal drugs and counterfeit IDs through Silk Road. Wow, that's crazy. So even if he gets out, he's got to pay $108 million in restitution. I don't know if he has to do that. Holy fuck. They just say it is federal prosecutors, alleged that Ulberg had paid $730 ,000 in a murder for higher deals targeting at least five people, allegedly because they threatened to reveal Silk Road to Silk Road enterprise. Prosecutors believed no contract to killing actually occurred.

1:23:19Ulberg was not charged. Was not charged in his trial in New York federal court with murder for higher, but evidence was introduced at trial supporting the allegations that District Court found a preponderance of the evidence that Ulberg did commission the murders. So it seems like he did commission them. The evidence that Ulberg had, according to them, had commissioned a murder as was considered by the judge in sentencing Ulberg to life and was a factor in the second circuit's decision to uphold the sentence. He wasn't charged with it. He's been there. Crazy though that they don't charge him with it, be it they use it as a consideration.

1:23:56That is kind of crazy. That is crazy. Are you allowed to do that? Apparently, if you have the evidence for that, put it up and let him be tried for it. And I gotta tell you, I don't think that's gonna get you double life in any other case. And isn't he like a yoga teacher now? He teaches people how to read. He's like a model prisoner. Yeah. He fucked up. Let him out. You know, this idea of like, you wanna have total freedom and we're gonna just circumvent the system and do it online. They just wanted to squash that and put as much water on that fire as is humanly possible. And the point's been made.

1:24:26Yeah. So he's served his time. Mr. President, please let him out right now. Why do you have the hell razor box on the table? I wanted to give me, and this is from Cabin the Woods. You have to see Cabin Woods? The movie? Yeah. That's pornicus's orb. Oh. I have fun movie. I have these normally in my bedroom, obviously. Oh, so you put them here for your vibe? Yeah. Oh, no. Really? That's so bizarre. Why do you have the hell razor box? Because it goes about what the orb? Is it functional? The hell razor box is moving around? This is functional. What does that do? Here. Careful though. It's not cheap.

1:25:00What does it do? Oh, it moves around. Yeah. And does it open? Careful, careful. You don't want to open a door. Oh, really? How does this work? You just do it. Is it running around? Yeah, and then doorways open. Oh, doorways. We don't need that. We don't need that area. Imagine if some wild shit goes down, like fucking mallets and broken. They opened up the doorway. I think it would be like a fucking mallet. They knew it opened up the fucking door. Yeah. The hell razor box. Yeah. Clearly Satanic. Lament configuration. That's it? That's the orb. Oh, wow. And it's like a conjuring type deal? Well, he was the Lord of, but bondage and pain from the movie.

1:25:38He's a scene of bite, obviously. Cabin, it was a fun fucking movie. I love that movie. That's Josh Reeden. It wasn't really. Yeah, it was like a love letter to horror movies. It was a good movie. Sigourney Weaver was excellent. Oh, so I don't want to spoil it, but Sigourney weaver's in and she's superb. It's also, it really straddles the line between silly and actually scary. It does really well. It's like a movie for the fans. Yeah. Like you watch, you're like, okay, this guy's talking to me through the screen. Right. It's like, yeah, it's like, it's like you have to love horror movies to really love that.

1:26:09Because there's so many Easter eggs. You got to sit down and be like, who's this? Like, oh, he's a scene of bite. That's what that reference is. Where are wolves? Yeah. Yeah, fun ass movie. Yeah, I love that. So that's why you brought these things just to get? I just want to have a good vibe. Yeah. So you always have that in front of you when you work? No, it's in my bedroom. Oh, okay. Right, what you sleep? That's right. We were in the restaurant, you put that on the one side. Listen to that. I do it. They're on the nightstand. The same nightstand or on opposite nightstand? The same nightstand.

1:26:34Is that the one you stare at before you close your eyes? I don't know. When you stare at your spells. I, I, I, I spells.

1:26:47And that's how I laugh. And then I got to sleep. Well, there's so many people online because everyone's so skeptical and because conspiracies are so fun. Everyone thinks that everything is satanic. Yes. You know, everything. Like, that was what people thought about the Prince Charles painting or King Charles. I like the King Charles painting. Like someone's fucking with him. Like that guy's like, that's a subtle dig on the history of the, the UK Empire. It looked like it was something on a hot topic. It looks crazy. Yeah. But like people try to find like Baffamette in there. If you're, you know, turn it upside down and fold it around.

1:27:20You know how you know the guy was fucking with him? Because he left his sausage fingers in there. You know how he's got really fucked up hands? He does? Like, Jamie, pull up King Charles' hands. It's insane. Oh, they're like inflamed. They're like sausage. It's like a, not movie with everything everywhere at all at once. Like, yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah. That's, he's probably got a disease, man. Yeah, you think? Jesus Christ, that's so inflamed. Yeah. God, that's so unhealthy. What's wrong with his hands? I don't know. Oh, sausage fingers. Wow. Let's just scroll up so you get a look at that. They didn't even show it.

1:27:53They just show a picture of him. Let me see the hands. That looks fairly okay. A little swollen. What caused a swollen hands? Cause of a variety of things that support to discuss symptoms with your doctor. Yeah. Does it show his hands down there? Yeah, there you go. Okay, right there. That looks crazy. That looks crazy. That looks like you're never getting that ring off. First of all, I feel bad for Camilla. They can't feel nice. You. You're gonna have, do you think they still do it? Of course, don't you? They've got to be, they're all perverts. You think so? The royal family? Are they all perverts?

1:28:25They're all perverts. Really? Of course. Oh, this is such a thing with like, I restock, I restock, I see. They're all per, that's why they're, they're not having sex with kids cause they like it. They're having sex with kids that they can.

1:28:38The air stockers, he has sex with kids. What's the thing? Prince Philip was on, was it Philip? No, no, no. Prince, you'll see the other one. Andrew. He was on, he was buddies with Epstein. We've got all the receipts. And then when they caught him, he goes, well, I don't sweat anymore. I don't sweat anymore. Yeah, he said, I was at the Falklands and I caught some thing and now I don't sweat anymore. So there you go. Look this up, Jamie, I'm not making this up. I'm not making this up. That was his excuse, I don't sweat anymore. It was some weird thing about like the story can't be true cause I don't sweat, yeah.

1:29:06One of the Duke of York's claims and his news night interview was that he cannot physically sweat. Let's find out, bro. Let's put that bitch in a song and see if he's a liar. Yeah, so there you go. Virginia Guffrey. Just grab dancing with you and you're profusely sweating and then she went on to have a bath possibly. Prince Andrew replies, there's a slight problem with the sweating because I have a peculiar medical condition which I don't sweat or I didn't sweat the time and that was it. But can you get the clip of him saying this because it sounds so crazy. It's his word time because I had suffered what I would describe as an overdose of adrenaline in the Falklands war when I was shot at.

1:29:45Oh, that's a good way to divert. That's crazy. You are around. You guys all the time. They're adrenaline through the roof cause they're like in a life and death situation. They all sweat. This isn't a thing. Right. But there is a medical condition where you don't the guy who does that sculpture out there that the sea monster you saw he can't sweat. It's really bad. He was in the Falklands? No, no, no. He just has a real condition. Yeah, but that's the thing but that's not something you develop. Right. Well, I don't know if you can develop. You can't develop a getting shot at you because there was what Trump can't sweat anymore.

1:30:18I mean, maybe this is rarely happens in someone blows a fuse. Okay. I'm not, I'm just, I'm not a doctor. I'm not like an apologist for this. You're a prescentripe. I think you're sweating right now. It's so simple to find out this is true though. Let's get interesting. These say that, sir. We have a sauna at 195 degrees. Or we just turn up the air in the room. We have this doctor and this article he says. Okay. A physician Dr. James Hambon wrote in the Atlantic at the time in case of the, in case the dubious claim, the dubiousness of this claim has not already evident from its context nested in a sea of dubious claims.

1:30:55This is a dubious claim. Okay. There are people who cannot sweat or who sweat very little such a propensity to appear cool and collected while everyone else is flushed and damp has been attributed to the inevitably and, inviably high status through, oh, to the inviably inviably high status throughout history. I'm sorry. I'm reading it while I'm thinking. But the medical condition of not producing sweat. Okay. This is the stuff that my friend has. Yeah. It's gross. Extremely undesirable. The function is vitally important and we had to cool the body down. McVader, the guy who does all the kiltony and fellowships up, he has that too.

1:31:30So two guys I know, both guys named Scott oddly enough, Scott who made the incredible artwork and then Scott, the McVader who does other incredible artwork. Both of the guys like legitimately can't sweat, but they didn't. You can't develop it. They didn't get it. And certainly enough from adrenaline. It's a thing. It's a gigantic thing. Like there's some people who can't feel pain, which is really bad. It's not a temporary condition such as handling as concludes a temporary inability to sweat with the five medical precedent. Okay. So it's bullshit. If it's bullshit, put your bullshit. Yes. He just wanted to make that as a nice look by the way I got shot at a fallen war.

1:32:02I'm sorry. I kind of ripped that girl I was shot in the war. I don't sweat. I also don't sleep with a shed out. Probably wasn't. They're not going to put in the prints and line of fire in the Falklands. Maybe he's like that dude from NBC. Brian Williams. Yeah. What about Hillary? Yeah, she was one too. Thomas on a sniper fire. Yeah, the first lady is going to a sniper fire. Yeah, okay. Yeah, that was a weird one, right? Yes. Weird. Yeah, the first lady is going to buzz. They're just going to let people take shots at her. Well, they did it to Trump. So maybe it's to her saying you can't sweat is so crazy because they could find out so easy if you sweat.

1:32:36Like it's not like a difficult thing. Well, sir, did you mind sitting in this on? But it's it's also like maybe she got let's pretend let's just take it a face value. She could have gotten that aspect the story wrong. Doesn't mean you weren't there with her. It's like she remiss remember that you're sweating. She's thinking stunk. Oh, yeah, you're right. She said she misspoke. And last week she gave a dramatic description of her rival in Bosnia 12 years ago. We're counting a landing under sniper fire. And she had to duck and run. Okay. She said so if I misspoke, that was just a misstatement. What does that mean?

1:33:10A lot of things millions of words a day. So if I misspoke, that was just a misstatement. So if I make an incantation that summons Beosibub and he rises from a crack in the earth. Well, you got that. That was just a misstatement. I say millions of words a day. If you put a million chimpanzees for a million years with typewriters, they'll make the works of she would be else above come from a crack in the earth. You know he's an Lord of the sky. I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of greeting ceremony at the airport. But instead we ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.

1:33:46And there is footage of her landing and they're like giving her flowers and its kids. It's it's not like it wasn't on video. Yeah, both Clintons held their heads up and did not appear rushed. So the video. Oh, yeah, presented her with a poem. Yeah, yeah. Eight year old Bosnia girl presented her with a poem and later greeting US troops. So it's just she. You believe that thing about all the monkeys? You leave them alone with the typewriter for a million years. They they compose all the works of Shakespeare. Yeah, that's mathematically definite. But what do you mean here? I don't believe it. What do you mean?

1:34:20I think it's going to be all fucked up. But if you do it long enough, infinitely every pervert. You're going to edit that. You have to find all the works of Shakespeare. You don't edit Shakespeare. You have to find all those words that's monkeys. There's no way they're going to write those letters in that order. If it's infinite, yes, infinite. Right, that's the whole point. I think infinitely it sucks. I think unless they evolve, if it's infinite and then the monkeys grow up to become humans, then they figure out the right way to Shakespeare. If you're hitting keys, if you're hitting keys that random, eventually you're going to write out Shakespeare's.

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1:36:47Just sort of like they do with us with spaceships when they just crash land. They just drop them off a typewriter. I just read a story of this monkey was in a zoo for a chimp for like 50 years. It just finally died. It was really sad. But I read the story and they said, well, it was originally being raised by someone in their house and then they took it to the zoo. And it's just like, and they bought it at pet store in New York. Oh my god. Like a chimp. Yeah, I used to be able to do that. Remember the lady in Connecticut? Yeah, that's what I was thinking about. I'm like, who thinks this is a good idea?

1:37:16Yeah, there's a lot of nutty people out there that don't understand what a chimpanzee is. There's a piece recently, Jamie, where they were studying old videos of chimpanzees. And they believe that some chimpanzees are capable of human words. See if you can find that. This is like a very new discovery. So they were examining some older videos. And they believe that some chimpanzees here, old videos of chimpanzees suggest they are capable of speech. So, these are some old videos that they had done. So a small team of speech specialists, psychologists, and Sweden, the UK, and Switzerland has found via study of old videos that at least three chimpanzees had learned to speak human words, suggesting that the animals are capable of learning this ability given the right circumstances.

1:38:05The work is published in the journal scientific reports. And that wild? Huh. So some of them know how to say some words. Papa or cup? Mama, Papa or cup? But their work was discredited over the years as unethical because the chim was taken from its natural mother. And this new effort, the research team wondered if the dismissal of these findings was done in absence of attempts to duplicate their efforts. To find out that might have been the case, they searched for the video evidence of such attempts at training and found three video showing evidence that chimpanzees can be taught to speak human words in a rudimentary way.

1:38:39But it's scary to hear this. It's scary. Can you say mama? Mama? Is this for mama? You love your mama? You love mama? Here, sweetie. This is for you. But that's just a grant. No, I'm saying mama, dude. Yeah, but it doesn't know what it means. Well, let's see how the other things. This cup. That sounded like mama, but it doesn't mean that you can treat it. Love you, Johnny. Do you like that? Is that good? You could teach Huskies to say I love you, too.

1:39:21I guess. That hurts the chimp. That's your noise, mama. The chimp doesn't think that the owner is its mother. Right. It doesn't understand what that means. It's just saying that. Yeah, absolutely. Right, right, right. So even if you speak, it's saying the noise. Right, right, right. It doesn't understand what it's saying. Yes. That is different. So they know that they can teach gorillas sign language, though, right? Right, but the interesting thing about I think with that, that might be overblown because my understanding is. They're a good boy. The gorillas never ask questions. Right. So it's always a response to a cue.

1:39:50And gorillas are extremely intelligent. Right. It's not a dispute, but like what are they actually? Are they mimicking knowing gets them what they want? Because I know that the most famous one, Coco, called it's it was mad ones, supposedly she. He was cocoa boy. Male. Well, that's a kindergarten teacher decide. Our next president. See that meme? Yes. And Coco called her like a dirty toilet devil. And I'm like, a gorilla doesn't know what a devil is. Right. You can't teach a gorilla the concept of devil. That's not a word. Right, right. Yeah, that's ridiculous. That is interesting. So maybe they don't know how to express themselves, but they can crudely interact with ideas.

1:40:30So it's not as simple as maybe they don't even have a sense of self to the point where they can express. Like I'm hungry. I'm very tired right now. I'm tired doing these tricks for you. I don't like this. I don't want to be in this cage anymore. The other thing that really blew my mind is they had a thing where they taught dogs. There's two pictures. Is it a boy? Sometimes. Yeah, he used the sign for devil as an insult. She also named a parent devil tooth after initially being frightened of it. And the famous joke, the aristocrats told by Coco the gorilla. Coco says devil ingrid. It was a girl.

1:41:00Okay. Coco was a gorilla who mastered sign language and raised kittens. She died at the age of 46. No. But you can't teach the concept of devil to an animal. That's not true. It's being trapped in a fucking building that's run by gorillas. And they tell you what to do. And they give you bananas. And they try to get you to grunted them. And you're like, oh my god. Is there any fucking people around here? And how about with that suck? Well, that's how bad it's suck for Coco. No, it didn't because they think of because dogs think of us as the same thing as them. How do you know the cocoa does? Maybe Coco would have been way more happy with a bunch of gorillas.

1:41:35Maybe. I would think so. Probably dogs are happy with dogs. Dogs are happy with people. They're a little happier with people. Dogs want to be around people, yes. So there's an experiment they ran and I still don't understand what's going on in the dogs head. Where they put up two pictures and the dogs were trained. If you see a picture of a dog, you hit this left or the dogs in the right, hit the right and you get a treat. So they had some concept of dog because it would be like the whole dog or the dog's head or whatever. So if you have two pictures, I want like the shape of a cat and the shape of a dog or a cow, they're the same shape.

1:42:09But the dogs knew to choose dog. And dogs look very different from each other. Right. So that was something I thought really fascinating. Well, dogs know what a dog is versus like martial hate squirrels. Try to kill squirrels. Sure. But when he sees Carl, you know, absolutely, even though Carl squirrels eyes, the Carl is a dog. Well, Carl's bigger than a squirrel a lot. When he was little, he wasn't. Okay. And he knew how big was Carl when Marshall first saw him five pounds. But that's got that could be his five pounds. That could be a squirrel. That could be a smell thing. I think it probably is.

1:42:39That's got to be a smell. The dogs do not smell the same as rodents. It's probably also the way the dog interacts with the other dogs. And the motion. The way to move. Yeah. This is a difference. But rodents probably smell delusious. But visually, how is it going to know that that's a dog on the screen? How's it going to know that Marshall's ever seen a French bulldog? How the fuck did he know? That's a little thing. But from a smell. Right. But I mean, he's probably like, what is this? This is a crazy thing. But he knows this little thing. That was a little dog. He does. Yeah, that's true. My older dog has a chihuahua.

1:43:07So he's like been around little dogs. But they know that like they know that there's a difference between all kind of like I had to teach him that he can't kill chickens. Okay. Because the chickens are in the fucking yeah, what are these things doing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They are pets. I still don't trust him totally. But he doesn't chase after them and go out. But when he first saw him, he wanted to snap him and say, hey, no, no, no, no. These are our friends. Like, he's like, what the fuck are you talking about? That was in the call of the wild, too. Was it? Yeah, like the dog like killed the chickens and the owners like don't do that.

1:43:39And the dog was safe around them. But at that point, they just showed us what the dog was. You can teach dogs to not do that. Yeah, of course. They just have to know that you will be very upset with them if they do it. They get it in their hand. They go, okay, I got it. It's not just that they're upset that they know in group versus our group. So they know to be a guardian like this, something I protect and something I eat. Yes, it's a part of the family. Yeah, yeah. And he doesn't even know like, bro, you get eggs. These are awesome. Eggs are good for you. Don't kill them. Stupid. For short term gratification, I went to the bathroom once and I just got home and opened the door, let him outside and I took a leak.

1:44:12And then I closed the bathroom door and flushed. He had a scroll in his mouth. I was like, dude, not anymore. Okay, but he just got it. Well, sometimes the dogs will bring you like a living thing they caught. They're just mouthing it like birds or whatever. He's a hunting, I mean, he's a golden retriever. But are they really hunting? Yeah, they're bird hunting dogs. I thought they're retrievers. That's what retrievers are for. I thought they retrieved it after you've killed it. Yes. Yeah, I mean, you use them in hunting to retrieve it. Okay. But they go after the animals too. Like if the animals wound you, or whatever, they go out.

1:44:40Got it, got it. But they want to bring it to you. Oh, yeah. It's like, it's instinct. It's just to bring this fucking open up the bathroom door. He's standing there with a scroll on his mouth. He's not proud of himself. Yeah. He got lunch. I don't know what to tell him. I mean, you can't bring it back to life. I'm not going to discourage him from this activity. Did you let him eat it? No. They do react to videos though, which wouldn't be smell. Because I've seen Carl even like watch a lot of hop up on YouTube. Oh, yeah. And he just started fucking freaking out. Yeah. It's like, what did he, what the fuck did he see?

1:45:09Yeah, I didn't know. If you bark in this room, Carl will go crazy. Is that true? Yeah, we won't do it. But I could do a really good dog. It sounds like I get a low ground. And Carl will like pop up. I don't want to do it. Because if I do it, he will go bananas. I was having so much fun with him waiting for it. He's the best. I love Frenchies. I love them so much. He throws himself at you too. I know he almost got my chin. He leaps through the air. He's a little frown. He's such a little character. They're only bred to be fun. Yeah. So if a dog could talk, they're probably annoying. Like, ooh. No, give me food.

1:45:47Give me food. If you're gonna play with the ball, and not right now, dude, I'm working. How about now? Yeah. And they think your whole day spent going hunting for dog food. Exactly. They think you least. They get dog food. That's what they think you're doing all day. What do you kind of do? In a way. It's not all day, but in a way. You have to go fun that stuff. But it is weird that like our thoughts of intelligence are based on communicating. Like I wonder if we could decide. So they think they're gonna be able to do that with AI. It's one of the more interesting things about AI. They think they're gonna be able to decipher dolphin languages.

1:46:22Because right now, we know they talk. We know they have accents. We know they have dialects. We don't know what they're saying. What if funny? They're like really racist against the killer whales. There was a bit on that. Like the spell show. Really? Yeah, about a dolphin that was racist. Wasn't it a spell show? It was someone on the sketch shows. But I mean, what are they saying? Well, they're also really horny. Oh, they're not just horny. They kill babies so that the mixture of the woman keeps breeding. Lines do that too. So the women fuck as many as the male dolphins as they can, just so that they're protect.

1:46:53Because it might be my kid. Who knows? It's not killed a kid. Yeah. Female lions do that too? Males. Males. And male cats. Oh, yeah, they kill. They kill those kids. But they'll female lions don't fuck as many males as they can, right? But dolphins do that. Because intellectually the dolphin realized, oh, I fucked her. That could be my thing. Wait, no, I think female cats can have more than one parent in their litter. Right. Yeah, I think so too. Yeah. Yeah, this, uh, it's so interesting. Like, I would wonder if in the absence of human beings, like imagine if something came, some magical switch got popped and human beings disappeared from the face of the earth.

1:47:33I wonder how long it would take for an equally intelligent animal to emerge, if ever. Oh, that's it. Because we have been around that long. That's really not this smart. No. But like 50 ,000 years, if that, like 200, 200 ,000. They push it back a little more now. And then there's also some new humans that are discovering like the Denisovans, which I don't think they'd even discovered them until I found it somewhere in the 2000s. And you know, we don't, we don't even have the full fossil record of human species. If you find something 10 years ago and it's a new kind of human, which the Denisovans are.

1:48:08Right. Like who fucking knows how long we really go back. But I think they think we go back in this form, roughly a couple hundred thousand years. Right. That's nothing. It's a blink of an eye. And then the Neanderthals, they lived a lot longer. They were around for like a half a million. Were they smart than us? No, necessarily. We don't know. We know they were a lot stronger than us than they ate primarily meat. And they were like much more rugged. I thought people who have hired Neanderthal DNA tend to be more intelligent. Yeah, I don't know if that's true. It's interesting. I don't know if that's why either because sometimes hybrids in parts.

1:48:46Hybrid vigor, yeah. Yeah, hybrid vigor. That's the term for it. That could be something along those lines. Or it could be like maybe the ones that interbred with Neanderthals. Like had to become much more intelligent in order to overcome them. Like we would just assume that Neanderthals were brutal. Because of a brutal then too. Exactly. Humans were brutal and Neanderthals like apparently they went after a big game. And they made weapons and tools. A lot of them had broken bones and they had much more dense bone structure than ours. Which only makes sense that they were brutal if they were doing that.

1:49:19Sure. So they're probably ruthless in every regard. And we probably had to kill them off. And we probably merged with them in some sort of a way too. But they think the merging was almost all Neanderthal males. And almost avian females. Okay. They think that's true. Because it's in like virtually everyone have a big chunk of Neanderthal DNA. Not everyone. Mostly white European people. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Africans generally don't know. Oh, okay. Yeah. It's just interesting that all these different kinds of human existed. Along with like that hobbit man. I was just going to say, yeah, I think they find out that he was actually just like a dwarf.

1:49:56No, that was some speculation by some haters. It was. The hobbit haters. There's some anthropology haters. Like you didn't discover this. It's bullshit. So if they get shot. I think it's pretty much been established because of the amount of bones that they found. This is a very specific animal. Okay. And they think that this very, also there's a legend of these things. And I think in his Vietnam they call them. They call them the Orang Pendeck. And that this small hairy man has been, this has been a legend forever. Well, I thought that was supposed to be what the orangutan was based because the orangutan was found fairly recently.

1:50:32It wasn't like the 1840s, something crazy. I think the rills were found in 1900s. Yeah. There's something. Something else. That's interesting. I think the Orang Pendeck though is an actual little tiny person. Little tiny hairy man. But I think orangutan means hairy man or the forest. Interesting. I think so. Maybe it's just like the etymology of the word. Who knows? Yeah, who knows. But that little creature, that little hairy creature had been talked about forever. And everybody thought it was just bullshit. But everyone has like owls and dwarves. Orangus. Yeah. You think dragons are real? I had this big argument with my friend Jesse not that long ago because it is, whenever here's a thing, when you have every culture on earth having the same kind of myth, it's like, there's gotta be some starting point.

1:51:15Like something's popped this off. Right. Yeah. And for us Galante, who's an actual biologist, who studies wildlife, and he actually, he's done a lot of work trying to find the Tasmanian tiger, the phyllisine. Oh, that's a scene. Yes, they're over in Australia trying to find that guy. They're trying to claw him again. I think they're in New Guinea or somewhere looking for live versions of it. But whatever. He thinks it might be a, there's a whole YouTube video of him describing it on this show that he thinks dragons. Dragons were a real thing. But what does he mean by track? He obviously doesn't mean flying giant lizards.

1:51:46He doesn't mean large lizard creature. Some large, you know, like probably terrifying predator that existed. Maybe a hold. Look, we have crocodiles, right? No, we have crocodiles. Yeah, or a holdover. And I was watching this video. I'm getting this guy on the podcast soon. But his video is about sightings in the 1800s of crocodiles in the Congo that might have been as money as 50 feet long. Okay. Yeah, but it's, I mean, those measurements are so easy to kind of exact. Especially scared. Some are chasing you. Sure. But they measured it up to the boat that they were on. Okay. And there's been a few of them like one of them they saw that they think was about 40 feet.

1:52:25They know they found them. I think the biggest one they ever found was like 28 feet. It makes sense that those things, especially back then. Yeah, look at the size of that fucker. This is the drawing of what it looked like. Yeah, because if don't crocodiles keep drawing their own lives? Yeah, they live forever. Yeah. They live forever. So they had one that died of exfixiation. He died in captivity. And I think he was 28 years long or excuse me, 28 feet long. But what would a dragon, how would it be a, like there's no question there were giant reptiles in this the lot on earth. So what is a dragon going to literally mean?

1:53:02It's not going to have wings, right? Who knows? I mean, it's not going to be a dinosaur. Terran's had wings. It probably doesn't really fire. No, that doesn't make any sense. Right. But if you thought about the history of large reptiles on this planet, look at the Anaconda. Yeah. That's no joke. That's, that'll kill you in two seconds. Paul Rosalie told me he was in the Congo and, or in the Amazon, rather, and he wrapped his arms around them and he couldn't get his hands touching. Yeah, they're checking my size. He couldn't get his arms around it. Think of how big that is, man. That's so insane.

1:53:31Right. He couldn't get his, he couldn't touch his hands around a snake. Right. And we know that the megafauna have been driven to extinction, so things used to be bigger. Yeah. There's also some sightings in the Congo back in the, I think the 1700s or the 1800s of enormous snakes. Snakes are like a hundred feet long, like huge snakes. There's an era of photograph that someone took of an enormous snake, an old photograph out of an airplane. And they also just recently made forest elephants the wrong thing. Forest elephants are different. Yeah, they're new species. They recategorized them as a new species now.

1:54:08And pig me hippos. Oh, yeah. People didn't think they were real. Like, oh, this hippo doesn't live in the water. So this is the photo. Oh, shit. But it's hard to figure out scale. This is from, what is it from? What's the fake? Oh, he says it's a fake. No, it's a fake. It's a crop photo of an anaconda, probably one close to 14 to 16 feet long, maybe 200 pounds. So this is someone answered it. Oh, so it's one of those. Perspective things. Like also like the Loch Ness Monster, the famous photo that turned out to be horseshit, and everybody shared it forever. So this is an old grainy photograph from 1950.

1:54:41So that's a fake. Yeah, it looks kind of fake. Now that I'm looking at it, it looks like a shitty. It looks real, but we don't know this. But look at it again. But no, the lines look too clean. The lines around it, like it's too defined. I see you're saying. The bottom of it, it's like way too defined. Like the snake's the outline of it. It looks like someone drew it. Like it's a tattoo. It doesn't look like an act like the ground underneath it. Why would it have like shadows like that? But what else is thing is like the colossal squid, which is like the biggest invertor bit was only discovered in like the 70s.

1:55:12The largest spider was only discovered like 1981. Well, some of those squids, those giant squids, they didn't get photographic evidence of them until fairly recently. Yeah, because they lived deep. Yeah. Is she that nutty one that looks like a crab that they found underneath one of those, it's like a new species that they found under a oil rig. What do you mean? They have this deep, deep camera under an oil rig and this fucking thing, look at this. Oh, that's mega. Oh, what's it called? Look at it. It's fucking length. It's a squid. Look at it's like crab like tentacles. And they have the elbows.

1:55:44They don't know what they're for. Mega pinna, it's called. Look at that fucking thing, man. There's better footage of them. I mean, that is an alien. If that was on another planet, if there was a planet that was filled with only water and we found that would be freaking out. We found alien life. Yeah. It looks like an alien. It is? Yeah. And they don't know why the fins are so, yeah, there it is, mega pinna. The wildest thing to me is octopus. Octopi are so bizarre. They're not like anything else. They can change their texture and their color to exactly match what's below them. You know, they put them on like a coddlefish too.

1:56:23They put them on like a checkerboard to see what happened. And they freak out. Yeah. It does really work. Do you see they have robot coddlefish now? The male coddlefish try to fuck them. Whoa. And they change gender. Of course they do. And then they change gender. The male coddlefish is a little sneaky like male feminists. There's two. There's the alphas and then the ones who pass this female and get them on the side. Yeah, a little male feminists. Yes. They sneak in. Yes. They sneak into the women's room. Yeah, it's like Madaglacious. Yeah. He's one of these shit lips on the internet. He was like, oh, Biden's not really dementia.

1:56:56It's just the footage. It's like, okay, buddy. Shit lips are awesome. Are they? Yeah. Have fun. You should only take their opinion if you go up a giant hill with them. It might push them off. Yeah, it's no. See when you get tired and when you quit. Oh, yeah. What do you have in your head? How much is your opinion worthwhile or how much are you just a weak person? Not just weak physically. Weak of spirit. There is a weak of will. I, this is a bit of hike. It's like toxic. That's the real toxic masculinity. It's these types with the glasses of the back of the line. Oh, it's very toxic because it's the kind of masculinity that attacks stronger masculinity by default.

1:57:31Yes. There's no objective analysis of anything that's strong. There's no, there's no acknowledgments of certain merits and there's no like looking at any positive. It's only negative. Yes. It's negative. Which gives rise to guys like Andrew Tate. Yeah. Like fuck you. They just stick it into your face. Suck my dick. Well, this was a lot of the reasons people were over Trump. It was just like, oh, I can't vote for him. Well, fuck you, I am. That was. Yeah. And what? This is the fear that people have of a lot of this, you know, overreach. The government has in schools and all these different things that it's going to give rise to like a very hardcore conservative uprising.

1:58:08It's not even, I would call it right wing, not conservative. Yeah. It's not conservative. Yeah. Irritical right wing. Right. That's the fear is that things always go like that. If you go so far left, things are going to go so far right to over correct. There's going to be a movement. We've known this since time immoral. If you tell kids you're not allowed to smoke, it's like, oh, now I get to smoke and be a badass. I get you can't have a drink. I get to drink and be a badass. You tell them you can't have these ideas. They're like, oh, yeah, watch me. Right. Exactly. And it's radicalizing a lot of young people, which I think is wonderful, frankly.

1:58:38Well, it's fascinating because out of rebellion comes some of the coolest shit sometimes. You know, out of rebellion comes some of the coolest ideas, the coolest music, real rebellion. Yes. Resonates with you. It's just sad when you watch those dudes used to be rebels. Like, like, like, get old and then they just fucking get them conformist. I tell you to go get vaccinated. Yeah, those guys. Yeah. Real punk is going to do what Pfizer says. So sad. When you get old, though, you get scared. All these kids are going to catch that disease and I'm going to die. You know who the worst one of this is.

1:59:10Who? Stern. I don't know anyone who's fallen as hard. That's shameless. That's how it started. He believes it. He believes all those things he's saying, which is crazy. You think so? Yeah, he believes all the vaccine stuff. Oh, that he believes. He believes all those things. They are fool to not do it. You shouldn't be a part of society. It's unfortunate because it's like, I don't know who he's talking to or what conversation he has or what he knows. You know, I know I'm not saying that I'm an expert in any way, shape or form, but I was very lucky that I had access to a lot of people. So you're no Sanjay Gupta.

1:59:43No, no Sanjay Gupta. I had access to a lot of people that explained things to me in a way that are like, oh, oh, why I thought nope. Oh, so how do they get that information? That what? Yeah. That's the rules. And the more you know about that stuff, the more you're going to question these things. Everything in our society, if there's a narrative, I guarantee you someone's making money off that narrative, whether it's green energy or whether it's pro vaccine or whatever it is, it's a money thing. It's not a public health thing. It's not, they're not really concerned about climate change. They want to make sure that you're concerned about climate change so you vote so that they can get these fucking things through and they can get more and more control over you.

2:00:23I had Dr. Drew on my show and a big moment for him because he's, he's not a Jill Biden doctor. He's a real doctor. He, when COVID was hitting, he was asking very basic medical questions because there's this like instant certainty and Randos were yelling at him on Twitter and he's like, I went to medical school. Right. I'm not a tinfoil hat jackass. I'm like, this is just basic medical 101 stuff and I'm not even saying they're wrong. I'm saying, how did you get to this conclusion? Like, what's the, is this, are we certain this is the best approach and the blowback, people already forgot how insane that blowback was and how sensorious the regime was in terms of, you know, just even just, and here's the thing.

2:01:04If there's an emergency, like let's, let's, let's, post this an asteroid in the earth. Let's brainstorm. Yeah. Like, let's, okay, what's going to work? Let's try this. Let's try that. Like, we got, we got an emergency. We're not going to know right away what's going to be the best solution, but the way they were acting was like, no, no, no, this is the only way. And I don't care if you have a negative vaccine test. You need to have a negative COVID test. You need to have a vaccine vaccination passed. That's a year old to get into this restaurant makes no sense. The whole thing was very strange.

2:01:30It must have been surreal for you being like the one of the targets. Oh, yeah, it was very weird. It was, what it was also so weird because the thing that they were targeting on me on was so dumb. It was so, I listed a list of things. Right. They were really stupid. Right. They all went after this one thing like boy, that seems odd. Here's the way they, you remember how they went after it. They went after it as if Joe Rogan goes to Petco, right? And you wore like a Dave Smith disguise. I don't want to recognize you. And you grabbed the horse pace and you just injected yourself. So injected is where it is to.

2:02:03But that's kind of like what the impression was. Right. It's like worst case scenario, your quack doctor told you to do this, right? Worst case scenario. But what's really crazy is that they did it with that particular drug. Right. Knowing the history of that drug, the fact that the guy won the Nobel Prize on it for humans, knowing the fact that it had been given to billions, billions of prescriptions had been filled. And here's the thing. If they cared about being honest and saving lives, there would have been consequences. Yeah. And there were no consequences for any of these people, other than you clowning Sandra Gupta in this chair.

2:02:33Well, there's also should be an understanding of why a person got through it easy and why some people don't. Right. Yeah. Because I want, I'm not that young. I got to ask you. I got to ask you. Okay. Let's get our 10, four, more 10, four hats. Do you think Biden really had COVID last week? Two weeks ago? It made him grow. If you get it, when you're in, it's called you one, you grow. It's called grow it.

2:02:58Maybe I got to get it. Hey, maybe we should get some of that shit. I wish. I know. I don't know what to believe anymore. I don't know. It's so hard when you saw the letter that was written. It didn't have the presidential seal on it. Right. And it wasn't his signature. No. So there's that. And then there's no video of him saying that until far later. Why would they even test him for it? Like if he had symptoms, like it would, you would think it's the flu. Let's treat him like the flu. It's a good thing to say. So he's got COVID. Like, oh, shut it down. But he wasn't wearing a mask. Shut it down.

2:03:30And this idea of COVID where you can't go on screen. Shut it down. He's got the COVID. He's going to give it to you through the screen. Well, also, it's like, if you're 81, you get COVID. It's not looking so good for you. Like I don't care if you're the president or somebody else. Like it's a bad scene. I read something again. Read it. My knob will be real. But they had given them 10 doses of Pax -Lovid. And then one of my friends who's a doctor was like, that is way more than you're supposed to use someone. Like why would they give them that? Find out if that's true, because that might have just been some.

2:04:01Here's the thing. We're dealing with so much misinformation, so many trolls, so much bullshit. It's so hard. Six dose of Pax -Lovid on Saturday. And according to his doctor, he's improving steadily. Biden 81 tested positive for COVID -19 while campaigning in Las Vegas on Wednesday. He self -isolated his home in Delaware by receiving the oral antiviral pill. How many are you supposed to take of those? Six doses. That seems like a - What is the side effects of Pax -Lovid? Does it have any side effects? You're turned your wife into a selfish, silly entitled content. Only according to your son. The rest of my favorite video was when after the debate, you answered all the questions.

2:04:46You did great, Joe. He's like, stand there. He's gone. We've all seen a guy like that. If you live long enough and you have grandparents or you have friends, grandparents, you're going to see someone like that. This is the end. And when she's talking to him and she's got power for the first time. Yes, that's what I was saying. She's doing talking at speeches and stuff. Dude, she's up there talking. It was like misery. She was Kathy Bates. She's like, I've got you in my house. You're staying here. Here's the other thing that's funny. How badly do you have to fuck up a debate to lose your house and your job?

2:05:20Like that is, I think, historically unprecedented. How do you lose your house? He's getting kicked out of the White House. Oh, yeah. But he's still, he's allowed to be there to the end, right? Yeah, but allegedly. They're tall guys. They're not renewing the lease. Once you got tall or I think he's going to change the links. Yeah. Yeah, because he got on these new drugs. He's going to say, listen, guys, give me another chance at this. This stuff that maybe grows six inches. Like, I fucking got it. Man, not only do I got it, I think I'm better than I've ever been before. I, you know, I sent away for this drug that would grow me by six inches.

2:05:49And it was a fraud. I'm still at four. Well, you can get those things done with a break your leg and stretch you out. Oh, there was a guy called, what was his name? He deleted his Instagram. He was like this power lifter. Oh, I saw that guy. Yeah, did he delete it? Yeah. Probably got tired of people shitting on him. Yeah, it was, he was a giant guy already. Yeah, he was like, what, 286, 2? Yeah, he wanted to be 68. And he thought he was small. So he got his legs. That's by dysmorphia. And he was away from his family for like a year. Oh my God. God, my knee's done. Was that his 10 -month thick?

2:06:19Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, that's great. There's a lot of people that have done that. They've got their legs and even their arms. They've got their arms lengthened. Well, if you're going to get the legs, otherwise you look like a penguin, right? He looked weird. Unless you were a dude with like crazy long arms. Isn't it? Isn't it the thing? Well, you can't ever walk. You can't run anymore. No, we thought that too. But you can. There was a guy that Jamie found that got it done. Okay. And he shows the difference. And then you see him sprinting. And that man's name is Joe Biden. No. It's so quick. He grew six inches in a week.

2:06:48This new one they have. It's just way better. It's just a pill. It's packed slow. Six dose to six inches. Imagine if it cures COVID, but you grow an inch. I was like, oh, I got COVID. It's a real experience. It's a lot of facts love it. It'll get you taller. Forget that horse face. At the end of the fucking five seasons from out my head scraped on the ceiling. Become a freak. Like that guy, that famous guy from the, you know that guy from the 1970s? There was like a beautiful handsome man. And then he kept injecting stuff into his face. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, hold on. I'll send it. I send it to Thompson.

2:07:23Me and Thompson. Girl, I send each other the most horrific shit that we can find. I got boover memes from you. Yeah. Those are fun. They are fun. I'm sitting here like Joe. It's just texting me a boover. I send you. If I can get a smile on my work. It works. I'm serious. I gotta find this dude. I send Tommy so much shit. We send each other so much shit. Our feed is just a gross disaster. I know. Oh, this is the old Thompson. Hold on. He's got a new phone over. The best text I ever got. I got a text from Rosanna. She said W2F with two question marks. And I thought, okay, she's a boomer. She sees something on her screen.

2:07:59She thinks I can see it too. And like, what do you mean? She goes, you don't call me. Like, what's going on with you? I'm worried. It was so sweet. All right, here it is, Jamie. Just going to send it to you. I don't know what the fuck this guy was doing. I guess this is all. Why is this not? There we go. I just found it, Jamie. So this is what he, well, I want you to see the whole thing. Because it starts out in 1969. He's a gorgeous man. Like, beautiful handsome man. And then over time, homeboy goes crazy. Go full screen so we can see like, oh. So, 19 days, beautiful handsome man. Now, so let's get a little weird in 88.

2:08:42But I think that's just age. That's 91. That's just age. Just age. Now, things start getting weird. Oh, no. This is the beginning, man. Oh, I know this guy. 2004. Now it gets crazy. Look at the chin. Something's going nutty. Now the cheeks, he's trying to avoid the wrinkles. So he's turning his face and he'll fucking balloon. And I guess it's just body dysmorphia. Now 2010, but it gets really great. Now he's done his lips. 2013, it starts getting really weird. It's really crazy. Look at that. 2015. I mean, now it's just nuts. Now it looks like you got attack wear. It's more like a beast. That's got to be a wig or something.

2:09:18Something. Look at that. I mean, Jesus Christ. And it gets worse. So the head keeps getting bigger. Look at 2019. I mean, that's just absolutely insane. Now, look at it. Now, if that guy just let himself age, he would just be an old, good -looking guy. But instead, he went nutty. Because that's body dysmorphia, where people can't see what they look like. Yeah, I had body dysmorphia. I got not facially, but body and it's gone away. Do you know what? Stopped it? Well, I'm not even kidding. I've talked to you about this a little bit. A few things did it, but this was like the moment where I was like, okay, this is done.

2:09:55I was at gold. And there was a young dude there at early 20s, I'd say, who had striated adults. And I was like, wow, that's so cool. And then my brain said to myself, I swear to God, this way, I go, you were just at the test of factory at two in the morning with Joe Rogan, Elon Musk and Jordan Peterson. And you go tell that kid that you think your jealous of his striated adults and he will look at you like you're a crazy person. And that was when it clicked like, holy shit, this is fucking insane. No one cares about your fucking striated adults. So be careful. No, they don't care. You don't think so?

2:10:29They don't fucking care. No, I think it's gross. Really? Yes. What's gross you banging? They don't like that bodybuilder build at all. When we were at... Chris Helmsworth. When we were a finlier of fowl over. Do you know what else it was? When we were at the mothership opening night, this guy came in and I've met him since I don't remember his name. He was a bodybuilder like in his 50s. The chillest dude, really nice, very friendly, no attitude. I'm sure you know who I'm talking about. Again, I don't remember his name. He's Chris maybe. Immediately everyone in the room is like this guy's out group.

2:11:03Outsider. It wasn't like this guy's cool. It was like he's not one of us. And I saw the energy change and like holy shit. If this was something people thought was awesome, everyone would be treating him very differently. Well, it depends on the group. Of course it depends on the group. But this was... The normal people don't look at... They look at that as freakish, not as admirable. Like when girls have those huge implants, at a certain point it's not hot. It's just like there's something wrong with you. Right, you went crazy. You went crazy. Yeah, and that's what happened to that guy. Yes, he went crazy.

2:11:33But it isn't interesting that there's something wrong with us. Where we can't see what we really look like. We can't perspective. It's very difficult to acquire. When you were in the middle of that... When you realized, like holy shit, my brain is lying to itself. It's very scary. Oh, it must be when you look in the mirror and you see your face, you're like, oh my god. Oh, Kim, I don't know what it's you see. Who knows, man? And I think once you've got to that point, like what are you gonna do? You're gonna get it removed? Well, then it becomes your thing, right? Well, I don't know. You're that guy.

2:12:03Oh, god damn. Because I could have just got a phrase left, buddy. Yeah. You get fucking crazy. What's her name? Just something. They're twins. So you were seeing maybe both of them during that. Oh, yeah, well they both do it. They both have the same thing. They both have the same issue. What about mag gates? Those mag gates. The congressman. Oh, yeah, he did his eyebrows. Not just. He got something with the cheek, too. Oh, did he? Yes. Who sees? Yeah, you can't do that if you're a public person and also your eyebrows are like... And a dude. A 45 year old housewife. It was from... Yeah. He looked like a real housewife.

2:12:36Yeah, like Miami. Yeah. He's got a frozen forehead. No, but the cheek implants and... I don't know if it's implants. Yeah, it was implants or fillers. It was something nuts. Isn't that crazy to get it from a photoshop? I don't know. A photoshop. A politician, like your wrinkles and your... The weathered look in your face is actually good for your career. What is it? You don't think so? No. Oh, I think so. I think if you look at a guy like RFK, the voice is a problem. But the way he looks, the fact that he's this like intelligent, worldly guy that's like seen a lot, had a lot of life. You don't want a smooth face, dude.

2:13:10Yeah, that's crazy. That is literally crazy. That's cheekbone stuff. Come on. Yeah, that's... And I know it's too. Well, it's hard to tell because it's a different angle. But there's definitely something... That's not a natural nose and I should know. You might be right.

2:13:26Wow. But the forehead and the eyebrows are crazy. Nah. Okay, maybe the nose is natural from that angle. I could be wrong. But that is a crazy look. That's a crazy look. But the thing is, like, he used to be like the chubby kid. So I'm sure in his head, he's still always going to be that chubby, slop kid, even though he looked fine before. Yeah. But it's like, again, with these bindability, it wasn't going to get bigger. They're never happy with, like, dude, you hit 240. You're just like, you're fine. You know how we could save society? We should have a... By electing conflaires, it's press. Yes.

2:14:00And then have a reality show where all the congresspeople have cameras that follow them and get to know the real them. Oh, God. Well, that's called deep. See them in their house. Right. Except that's not a reality show. Julia Louie Drive has blocked me because she was saying, go ahead and vote and I go, you won five Emmys for showing that politicians are all sociopaths blocked. She blocked? Yeah, but I don't blame her, but it's true. It is true. But is he don't blame me that she blocked you? I don't blame her. Really? I block people very liberally. Like, I'm not doing it. I'm not... Yeah, I don't hear it.

2:14:31He is blocked people? Yes, of course. Well, I'm not there to be annoyed. Right. They can disagree with me. That's fine. But if you're going to be playing gotcha games, I don't know how to hear it. Block. Blocked. That's Lex. Lex is a blocking fool. Lex? He's worse than me. All my people, can you get Lex done blocking me? I'm like, yeah. This is what's positive interactions only. Which is fine. I mean, but it's not the internet. I mean, but I guess you could cultivate a place where you only have positive influences. Or you could have negative in the sense of respectful. Right. Or negative in like...

2:15:06Right. Or like, the thing is with the internet, whenever there's a question mark, it instantly becomes like an improv show. And like, as any improv show, it's just torture. It's just like, these are not funny. Like everyone says the same stupid lines. It's rough. And don't get me started the boomers. My God. What do you mean by a question mark? Like, if I say, is it just me or is it blah, blah, blah? Or like, why is my body at my age still making you farts? And the things that they reply, some of them are going to be very funny because it's farts. But some of them was just going to be like, oh my God.

2:15:42Just relax. And so I avoid question marks as much as... Well, there's a lot of like very angry people out there in the world. Yeah. No shit. And they love to express themselves in this very strange way on social media. It's a strange way to interact with people. And they love it. I do, like if I go to someone's feed and all their comments are just hostility, you suck fuck you, you've got to block those people. You don't want that NG around you. Yeah, you don't want it. And it's not... I don't know how many of those people are even real people. I think there's a lot of real people like that. Come on.

2:16:14100%. But there's also, anytime there's a politically charged issue or a person who's engaging and politically charged issues like you do, you're going to have a bunch of bots that are attacking you. And a bunch of bots on your page and a bunch of people that aren't real people. There's a lot of them. I'm sure you're aware. I thought that that was nonsense and it's not. And I've seen enough receipts that it's like holy shit, this really is a thing. Well, you know that FBI guy, the former FBI analyst who said that it's... He estimated it is somewhere in the neighborhood of 80 % of all accounts on Twitter or bots.

2:16:4880? 80, 80, 80. Holy crap. Yeah, I don't know if he's right, but I know that they wouldn't supply Elon with the information necessary for him to find out whether or not it's more than five, which is what they were claiming. They were claiming somewhere in the neighborhood. But he said that they based that on like 100 accounts, like a random one on the accounts. Oh, okay. So that's a do small of a sample size. But 80 still like... FBI agent confirms Elon Musk claim of undercounting bots accounts on Twitter by conducting his own research. So what his estimation was 80 % I believe. Was it say where it says that?

2:17:20Yeah, right there. Get right at the top, Jamie. Oh, here it goes. When I consider the volume of velocity of automation we're seeing today, the sophistication of bots that a given set of incentives is likely to attract and the relative lack of countermeasures I saw in my own research, I can only come to one conclusion. All likelihood more than 80 % of Twitter accounts are actually bots. This of course is my opinion. But I mean, there are bots where like if you reply something, all the replies will be like, oh, check out Bitcoin blah, blah, blah. Sure. But then there's also those some more sophisticated bots where like if you're going to go after Trump or go after Biden against War, you'll be like actually blah, blah, blah.

2:17:56Yeah, 100%. And I bet all the candidates use them. I mean, I bet it's just... I bet it's legal right now. I mean, I don't know. I mean, it was essentially propaganda, right? But they have live bots made out of meat. You have people like Brooklyn dad and it was like, yeah, it's in their bots. Right. Essentially, right? What's that girl JoJo, whatever her name is? So how does that work? Are those people paid? Yes. Who pays them? These you can DNC or the campaigns. We have the receipts for these people. By the way, it's not at all just the Democrats. There's Republican operatives as well. Let's make that very clear.

2:18:24Oh, 100%. I have a friend who has a Republican Instagram page and he reached out to me to tell me that people were contacting him asking him to do videos. And that if he did those videos, they'd pay him money. There's like thousands of dollars. I want that. Like, give me that goo. Like, you can get that goo. I'm for sale. Oh, good. Yes. It's good to know, because I've been talking to some people and I was going to breach this with you, but I'm glad you brought it up on your own. Perfect. Yeah. Well, how much do you charge to lie? Oh, lying I do for free. It costs money for 15th -tell of truth.

2:18:56But propaganda, if you want to be a bot. Like, who would you be a bot for the libertarians? God, are you... No? Can I not tea? Who would I be a bot for? You know who I be a bot for? Who? Better, man. I kind of like him. I love him. I like him now. I used to think why I was not... I donates his campaign. I used to think why I was not going to put a suit on. Then I realized, why don't I put a suit on? You know, I have this fucking huge podcast and I wear hoodies. He wears hoodies. His whole point is... I can't see my people. I shouldn't be taking seriously just because I'm a sender. And I got to tell you, for me to say something positive, a politician takes a lot.

2:19:28The barriers so low for someone to go on public record and talk about his mental health problems. That could help a lot of people. And I thought I was very commendable him to do that. Also, watching him bounce back from his stroke. I know. I thought the dude was toast. Yes, we altered. Right? Because when you stumble with words that bad, you struggle with thinking that bad. But it was just post -stroke. But then, where here we are, Louis is like at least two years later. Yeah. Two years after... 2022, yeah. Seems fine and reasonable. And like, saying a lot of stuff that he's like, I'm a progressive.

2:20:00This is not what I stand for. No, he said I'm not a progressive anymore. Right. He used to be. And he used to be what a progressive, what he thought of. Yeah. The first one to tell Menendez to resign. And now Menendez is resigning from his own party. So I love him. By the way, sender -federman, if you want to join with me and do a remake of twins, I'm totally down. Do you think that guy would ever run for president? I hope so. See, he's a reasonable like actual... He'd win in two seconds. He left -winged person. He's a reason. He's a moderate. Right. But would they have a ladder guy like that, even get close?

2:20:30Like, would they Tulsi Gabbard him? Well, Tulsi was only a congresswoman from Hawaii. She didn't have a big... Right. And she ran against the... Drone in the govern. Right. And when Bernie was her guy and she ran against him at Elisabeth Warren. So, this splitting that ticket, that base three ways. I think he'd have a great shot, don't you? I do. I do now. But getting past the primary, we tough. Because the machine wouldn't like him. Right. Not reliable. Biden was reliable. He's a party hack. And he would do speeches with a hoodie on. Yeah. He was guy. Is it outrageous? No. His whole point is we work for you.

2:21:05Yes. No, no. He's very reasonable. I'm shocked because I used to make fun of him. I used to think, like, this is so crazy that this guy can't talk and he's gonna run for governor. And then he won. I was like, oh, well, that's... But he won against Dr. Oz. Who's the worst? Well, you know, the guy got brought up in front of Congress from making fake, weak, law's claims. You don't go from supporting Jesse Smollett to being a Trump supporter. Right. You're a complete phony and a clown. And what was even funnier was when Oprah came out and twisted the knife and endorsed Federman at the last minute.

2:21:33Did you remember that? Oh. And he was her boy. Oh, wow. Interesting. Oprah did that? Oh, yes, she did. Federman now, I wonder how many people that endorsed him back then will endorse him now that he's like outside of the... I don't think he got many endorsements. But I mean, how many people that were like, okay with him or still, you know, if he's speaking noise, speaking and talking about these issues. You know what could make it happen? What? If Trump wins again, there's gonna be a lot of soul searching in the Democratic Party about like, where we lose track that we're losing to who they perceive as this complete pots.

2:22:08And that would be an opportunity for some like Federman, like it was for Clinton in 92, to be like, okay, I'm gonna steer this party back to where Middle America is. Right. And we could win on that those terms. But if they were gonna do that, when they have done that after Trump's first term and said they ran with Biden, well, they could have, they didn't do that for Trump's first term because first of all, Hillary got millions more votes. Second of all, they were too busy losing their minds to think strategically. This would be a little after. I mean, after. Yeah. So, but after they ran with Biden, there was plenty of like young enthusiastic people they could have ran with.

2:22:39Yeah, but I think Biden for them, you knew he was safe. He's a safe Democratic vote. You know what he's gonna say? He's gonna play the party game and he's kind of tried and tested. Also, he knows how Washington works. It's kind of like one of those things where it's hard to hate him. It's hard to hate him because he's just this sad old man in a basement. It's gonna be a lot. It was a lot easier. I don't think he would have been as easy to put over Klobuchar or Buttigieg. They certainly don't want Sanders because he'd be a loose candidate. Yeah, they didn't want Sanders at all costs. But I don't believe Buttigieg would work either.

2:23:13He says a lot of salad. Yeah, he's a kid. You don't come from South Bend to pret. First of all, he also raised, here's another reason why I think she's in trouble. Up to Harris. Buttigieg raised more money than her. Yeah, how would you think they're all just gonna get behind her? No, no, I do. But my point is how, if you, when you're running a president in 2020, can't raise as much money as a sender from California. Right. As the mayor of South Bend, Indiana, your rolodex is not good. Right. But that is just trying to get through the primaries. Sure. But they weaseled her in there. Right. She wore her right in, which was always the fear when Biden was elected president.

2:23:51Yeah, but hey, if anything happens to him, look. I don't think it's a given that the people are gonna write the checks for her, that they would have done for him. Is it said and done that she's gonna be the candidate for president? No. It's not. The convention, she has enough delegates as of right now. But Harris raised 200 million. Now, do you know how that works though? Here's what's interesting about that. Do you know what astroturfing is? Yes, of course. Yeah. So explain to people how they do that. Well, there's different ways to do astroturfing. One of the things they do is they attribute the, attribute donations to people that didn't really donate them.

2:24:23But it's not only that. It's that there's no question that a lot of these donors led thanks to James Carville, who's a Democratic Stragist for many, many years. James Carville said, hold your donations if Biden's a nominee. That's the only pressure you have. And they did the donations trickle to a zero. And that's one of the reasons Pelosi and the others freaked out. Once they switch, they're ready to write those checks again. The question is, it's July. Are you gonna be able to sustain this fundraising through November? And I don't know that she will. Really? Because she didn't last time. Okay.

2:24:55So there's no question. There's no question that whoever is the nominee of either party is gonna get a fuck ton of money. That's not in dispute. The question is, is she gonna be as good as a Hillary? We had the Rolex, the favors, it's my turn. She had Wall Street, she had Hollywood, she had DC, she had everybody. Kamala Harris, no one likes her. That's a big difference. But then people don't like Trump either. So that's a big problem for him. So how could it work that they would get rid of her? How would that possibly happen? You mean the publicly or privately? All the above. Because it seems like...

2:25:33Well, privately you'd have to blackmail. You have to sit her down and be like, here's what's gonna happen. If you don't drop down yourself, then we're gonna do XYZ. Which is already said she's wrong. Yeah, but she could... Who knows what they got on her. Did you not see the phone call she had with the Obama's? It was amazing. It was so candid. It definitely wasn't planned at all. Yeah. Just they happen to have a camera on her while she got a phone call from the Obama's. It was beautiful. I am surprised. How quickly they flipped the candidate. Without any pretense of having us some kind of competition.

2:26:04Well, I think they were feeling like they couldn't win. Right, but the point is I'm shocked that they went immediately with her as plan B. Because she is the one that is in the administration now, which means all the people that have jobs keep their jobs. So they're all very motivated. That's some of that means? Doesn't? No. Well, she could get rid of some of them. That's what happened with Lyndon Johnson took over. When George Bush took over for Reagan. They cleaned house. They bring in the wrong guys, of course. I think she would do that. Are you kidding? She would make it look like a Benetan ad.

2:26:32She's not... She's the nominee from Netflix. She's going to make it all, you know, DEI. Who could possibly take over? Like, how would they do that? They would have had to have forced her not to declare. Which would have been a very tough move. Because if she's not the nominee now, here's my 4D chess. Okay. 4D chess with Michael Mell. Biden is like, alright, we put her up. We know she's going to lose. She can't go back to the... She's not going to be governor of California. She's not going to be senator. Her career is done. And that was his kind of legacy, like, you know, getting rid of her once and for all.

2:27:11Because otherwise, she's going to be the nominee or a very strong case for it in 2028. Right, but don't you think that if she runs in 2024, that's very likely... There's a possibility, like, more than 50 -50 that she wins. I don't think it's more than 50 -50. Oh, interesting, I do. I don't think it's more than 50 -50 that I think. I think there's so many people that are opposed to the idea of Trump. That's true. Quiet people, quiet people, they're quiet. They're not like the Trump people are loud. Like, in support of Trump, they go to the rallies. They fill up stadiums. And so people in their head, they go, oh, he's more popular.

2:27:43But the people that are not willing to vote for him, they're on the quiet tip. And they might talk amongst their friends, and they might talk at work, and they might, but they're not going to these rallies. She didn't even make Iowa last time. The last time. So we got us three months of her... This is a woman who cracks herself up because she sees a school bus and goes, the wheels and the bus go around and round. You know, you didn't just fall off a cook and a tree. Do you know that? Yeah, her mom says, Kamala, you didn't just fall off a cook and a tree. You didn't just fall off a cook and a tree.

2:28:13In the context of... Yeah. So I think this is going to be... And here's the other thing. How is it you're going up for that debate? And when Tulsi hits you with your record, you don't have a counter punch ready. That makes no sense. She didn't have to. She knew they were going to bury it. But she... They didn't bury it, and ruined her career. It ruined her career. It ruined her campaign. I think at the time she thought they were going to bury it. Well, yeah. They weren't going to bring it up. I mean, there was a lot of people that were very high on her. They thought she was going to be the one.

2:28:44That's true. Yeah. And they were wrong. Well, maybe they're right now. But they thought that about Biden, too. Remember? Back in the day, we got busted for plagiarism in 88. He was never the guy. But he was running for president in 1988. Sure. I mean, Delaware... But again, just like they took her out, they took him out. He came back and became president. Yeah, like what? 20 years later. Yeah, but this is... The 40 years accelerated. 40 years is four years now. Plus, she's got the experience, international experience, of being the vice president of the United States. And never the borders are.

2:29:17That never happened. That never happened. You're crazy. Despite the fact that people say she was the borders are. Newly appointed borders are. No, the Republicans made that up and had a time machine. It's a cheap fake. Those are cheap fake. It's just such a wild time. And most people don't even... The average person that's going about their job and occasionally watching the news and occasionally paying attention to the news feed on their phone, they have no idea what's going on. How nutty it all is. Yes. But until they do. It's like gradually and then suddenly. Yeah. Like with the Biden debate.

2:29:49If the corporate comedians had done like Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel and all the other... Unsteroots, other bastard children had done their job and made fun of Biden for four years about being an old fart, that debate wouldn't have landed as hard as it did. The fact that it was a complete 180 for what we were being told is what really did him in. So the more they're trying to hyper up now, and of course, she's the new nominee, she's the greatest thing that's ever happened. She's basically another Oprah. Once she starts opening her mouth, and once... Here's the thing that's going to... I predict, she's notoriously difficult to work for the New York Times, New York Post, cover this at the time.

2:30:23Wait until people who are trying to get her into the White House start leaking to the press. At what a nightmare she is to work with. That is going to undermine a lot of stuff for her too. She's not the Hillary. Everyone's Linda, Linda Bloodworth, went to jail for Hillary. People ride or die with her. Kamla is a different story. Well, she had a really high turnover of her staff. 90%. That's great. What's normal? I don't know, but it's not 90 in like a year. Whew. Yeah. It's not just that they left. It's that they left and went to the press and be like, I can't... She doesn't do her homework, and then she yells at me for not being prepared.

2:31:01Like, they went leaked. People leave these offices all the time, but they don't leak. But it's just so wild that the media is all behind her now. Why is it wild? Because it's interesting. It's just wild, see. It's 180? Yeah. The shamelessness? It's wild to see. Yeah, but what's even wilder is seeing it through Twitter. Yeah. Because you see there 180 switch and then people are like, you guys were just saying something different two weeks ago. Yeah. It's hilarious. Thank you, Elon again. Yeah. Oh my God, thank you, Elon. Because if it wasn't for him, first of all, he changes the watermark for all the other ones.

2:31:31The things that all the other social media companies would have blocked you for. More stuff is slipping through the cracks. Right. It's a... But less people are getting banned, I think, in these other social media networks, because it just... It highlights. And in their defense, broadly speaking, what's the point of me banning this person if they're going to be in these other nine sites? Or one other site that I... Right. It's not actually accomplishing the purpose. There's just a waste of time. Yeah. And I'm alienating potential subscribers or whatever... Users. Yeah, it's wild, man. It's a strange, strange time.

2:32:03Again, it's like the Coliseum people. But do you know what's even fun here? Is that blue -pilled people on the left have been told and believe that Trump is scared to debate her. Yeah, that's funny. They think this. Do you really think they think that? Yes. No, they don't have thoughts, but that's what they say. They think that because she's young. No, because she's a prosecutor and she's tough. Yeah, tough. Hashtag girlboss. Yeah. And she's a prosecutor and he's a crook. So she's going to put him in his place and everyone will clap. That's going to be interesting if they do debate. They're going to do debate.

2:32:40Health is several. If he lives. Yeah. Do you think they're going to try to take him out again? Yes. Yeah, I do too. Yes. I think if they did that, this is not the only time they're going to do that. And then also that one was so Lee Harvey Oswald. It was so...it was so perfect lone gunman... At a certain point. Taking out... If you're that sloppy you're in on it. Someone had at least know that he was under threat and didn't care. They didn't care. I don't think that literally they worked with this crook's kid at all. You don't think so? I don't think so. What about the data that shows that someone from the near the FBI office in DC was visiting this kid back?

2:33:20Being on their radar screen is not the same as colluding with him. Meeting with him. Right. I don't know that them checking him out is the same thing as he's working for. Because if he was worried they'd check him out. Who knows why. There's lots of reasons to check somebody out. Point B... You're working for the government right now? Yes, obviously. Did you already get paid? I'm a sod. Yeah, I got paid in my shop. I didn't get my sod. Yes, you did. I didn't know. I gave you the briefcase. I didn't know. I didn't know who else cared. Point B being if you... I think they just didn't care. Right.

2:33:51And if it's your job to protect someone's life and you don't really care. Right. At a certain point something's going to happen. The whole thing was very strange. It's just very strange. It's kids. It's also... It's also black water commercial. And yeah. And also the idea that again the media is like, yeah, whatever. Yeah, it's fine. Yeah. Well, it's also the new cycle today. It's so rapid. It's like working on an assembly line. Like, you don't have time to check parts. Yeah, put that fuck around. There's another one coming. They were talking about the debate for weeks. True. And they were not talking about this.

2:34:28Like they were talking about the debate. Do you think that they set him up? They knew... The Biden was compromised. No. They let him debate on purpose. No. You don't think... Because they could have said no debate. No. Because I think... First of all, I think again, he's fine to stay the union. He probably has good days and bad days. And even the bad days, that was probably exceptionally bad. And I think he has his people. I'm the president, Joe Biden. Who's going to tell Jill no? I think at a certain point you believe you're on bullshit, don't you? Could be. Yeah. I always wanted to... And they had Trumps.

2:34:57Because it was so early though. But in their head, we're going to put a nail in the Trump coffin once and for all. The guys, Hitler and a liar and all this other nonsense that they believe. So Joe is going to come out there. He was... Listen, look at his debate history. Paul Ryan, who was no dummy, he was very good against him. He was very good against Sarah Palin, no wait. He was good against Trump in 2020. Like, they're just going to nuke him. That's what they thought, I think. Interesting. I don't think so. You think Jill set him up to fail? No, no. I think she's probably delusional like that guy with the Trumps face.

2:35:32That's what I'm saying. She's delusional. She is. Yes. But I think the people behind the scenes knew exactly what was going to happen. I don't think that was... I think if they had a debate again, it's not 100 % that it would be that bad again. That's interesting. Because again, look at the state of the union. Like, sometimes he's bad but not that bad. But I think, right. But the state of the union was not live. Yes it was. No. No, just see that they found out that it wasn't, that they looked at his watch and his watch. Right, no. Yeah, yeah. Do state of the union analysis, Biden's watch. No way.

2:36:07Yeah, someone zoomed in on his watch and his watch was the wrong time. How could that even be? Well, it could be. He's blind. You can't see what time it's going to watch. What's on it? I don't know what they knew. How do you know what they knew? You just, you get a feed. You know? I don't think all the Republicans would agree to it too. Is that all they knew? They're all there alive. What is doing it? Yeah. You got Mike Johnson behind you. You got the wrongly audience crossing their hands. When they don't like what you say, it's got to be live. Let's see. I won't see anything. State of the union wasn't live.

2:36:45I added watch. It could be some troll shit. They got me. Yeah. They could have got me. Well, there was no Biden's watch. Look at Biden's watch. Incorrect time. State of the union. He has never watched his son dial. The guy's like, hey, the guy's the $1 ,000. He's looking at the stars. He's looking at the stars. He's a little sextant. That's how he has that face.

2:37:07No, President Biden's all of the officers. Wasn't pre -recorded. A fake image of the wrong time. That's the whole awful stuff to stay in the union. Yeah, there's a fake image. They got me. These sons of bitches. It's just amazing how much stuff is fake. Floating around. Say it again. Put it up. Yeah, it's not the state of the union. Wasn't? No, that was just him talking after... Whatever. When after he hadn't been seen for a few days. Well, that, I believe, was put up a pre -recorded. Oh, that wouldn't make a deal. What big deal one or another? Like, if you're giving a talk and you have something to say, you can take a use.

2:37:36Oh, so they use the wrong image from a different time. Yeah. These cock suckers. It's just like that stuff. Like, who's doing that stuff? And why are they doing that stuff? Why are they having people talk about that and share inaccurate information? I think it's to put everything into chaos. So you have no idea what's true or what's not true. And then, ultimately, you don't know what to trust or what not to trust, which is a great way to get things through because then preposterous things can happen. And you're like, what fucking happen? And then you can honestly say, there's a lot of misinformation so we got to crack down on it.

2:38:09Right. And they could probably be putting up some of that misinformation themselves. What they would do. Some stuff that's easily provable. What they would do in eastern Germany, the Stasi, they would infiltrate like some group, right, with the Stasi agent. And that's the agent being like, we should have with other government and everyone else to be like, you're crazy. We don't want that. And they had arrested for colluding with someone who wants to have with other government. Oh my god. He's part of the group. Yeah. Well, the graduate one. The graduate one. That one's nuts. 12 people were FBI agents out of the 14 that were going to kidnap her.

2:38:42But they still act as if it really happened. Oh, it's so nuts, man. It's so nuts. It even says there's pictures of his watch with the correct time on it that were taken inside the Oval Office. Yeah, these cock suckers, they got me. But I also don't think why would that be a big deal if it was pre -recorded? Do you know what I mean? Well, the idea is that if he's pretending to be live but really can't be trusted because he's so gone that they could get it this way. I don't believe for a second he had a cold. So you think they just pulled a coup essentially? I don't think the coup is because of COVID or it's good to win.

2:39:16No, it's good to win. Why would I... Okay, one thing that I think everyone, most people who would understand, is these politicians are power hungry people. Right? Why would I as president step down when I do have still a decent shot of being Trump again and I beat him last time? God, I'm out of the Oval Office. Especially when meeth is asistering. Right. Meeth is asistering when I let the ring go. Right. So, yeah, of course it was a coup. Meeth is getting juries of the bait. Right, am I wrong though? Meeth is so good at debating. Meeth is who's number one in his class. Number one. Right. Meeth is as a higher IQ than you.

2:39:58Don't you think they had to go to threats? Yeah, I wonder. What else would get him out of there? I mean, maybe they just talk sensibly to him. So, look, do you remember when I killed the whole party? Because you don't want to step down. Do you remember when Chuck Schumer told Diane Feinstein she's got a resign and she agreed and then forgot that they had the conversation. He had to talk to her three times. Well, at the end, like, she was having people behind her tell her what to do. Oh, yeah, yeah. That was not, they were wheeling her around. Yeah. It's like, you ever see that video of the lady in Brazil who brings a dead guy to the bank?

2:40:34No. She's like holding his hand. I tried to get him to sign the money over to her. You never seen that? No, holy shit. It's amazing. This lady brought a dead guy to the bank. No, oh my. Is that a person or a dummy? He's dead. He's a dead guy.

2:40:53He's fully dead. Try to get to secure a loan. She's like, no, no, no, it's fine. It's all good here. But put that in your hand. Sign this right here. And they're like, oh my god, look at this bitch. I mean, the guy is fully dead. Bank employees eventually call the police. Who arrests a woman. She could say, well, he died on the way over. I didn't know he's dead. I was just sleepy. Jesus. Just wanted to get some money. That's our president. That's the respect. That's not our president. Yes, it was. That's a dead guy. That was literally our president. Do you think Biden's alive? Yes. And if you think he wasn't alive, do you think they'd tell us?

2:41:27If they have this body double out there running around for national security reasons, don't you think they would just keep their mouth shut? No, because I think it would be who of them if she got to be president. Because she's a stronger nominee. So if he was dead, then they would be good. Because she would be the president then. And then who would then then they would, yeah. But now there were rumors going around that during this window of time where he vanished from the face of the earth, which is not a thing that happens with presidents. Where you don't know where they are, where he was like having a seizure.

2:42:00He was like, this internet stuff. He got abducted by aliens and they grew him. That's how he's better. Or be else about that. The aliens came along. They used the new tech. He opened the gateway. He gained six inches, spy pep in his step. I, I, here's the question I have. I don't know if he's going to be there in January through January. Right. Right. Yeah, he's got to make it. And I'm very worried about Taiwan. Yeah. Because if I'm China or if I'm Putin, now's the time to move. Right. We got a vacuum of leadership in the White House. Ooh.

2:42:39That's a scary one. You think he's going to serve out the term? I don't know. When I see that guy that supposedly is Biden, I'm like, I don't know what's going on now. I, since we live in a simulation, and I'm going to spoil the best comedy of all time, Veepe, at a certain point, Veepe becomes president, and then she's voted out like five months later. Oh. And since Officer Harris is basically Selena Meyer, just like dipped in chocolate, I don't think he's going to be president through January. Wow.

2:43:14So who becomes Vice President? She's gonna, what's she going to pick? One of these governors, right? She's going to pick. It's either what Roy Cooper of North Carolina, Andy Beshear of Kentucky, or Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania, is the short list is what I heard. You don't think they do. They do what, like, kind of an insecure comic does. That's the one I was talking about. Yeah. Look at him. What do you walk? We got to all he is. Look, he's towering over her. But also how quick, how quickly he's walking. Yeah, he's got, he doesn't understand. He thinks he's walking like an old man, because that's a 40 -year -old dude.

2:43:47Very strange. He definitely is walking way better. Yeah. Can you put a photo just as just by walking? There's also a kind of a power to his step, like he's trying to walk slowly. Yeah, well, there's an effortlessness to the way he's walking. This is again, armchair physiologist Joe Rodney. When I'm looking at... Oh, wait, look, side by side. Wow. Is this from a lot of tables? Okay, which is the fake one? Not sure. The tall one on the left. Choreography, acknowledging the guy's awkward on camera walks to the south -awn ring. His halting stiff gate. Well... That looks the same as the other one. The one on the left does.

2:44:30Yeah, that looks like this. Let's see again. No, that looks a little more effortless, dude. Look, he's much more casual. I mean, he's walking with a little bit of stiffness to his arms, but it's much more casual with his legs. Let me see it again. I don't know. I might be fucking with my own mind. He's definitely taller though. He looks taller than the fuck that is. Yeah, that's the thing. The big one is this one. That's the big one. Yeah. Yeah. That one's nuts. That one freaks me out. Because look, he's walking fine. He's walking fine, and he's so big. Look how big he is. Like, clearly bigger.

2:45:06Would you ever want to get a body double? Would you ever argue a body double? I have four of them right now. Do you? Yeah. They're doing sets all over the country. And open mic nights. Oh, shit. I just thought you were arguing with him. Imagine. Yeah. Well, the thing is about, like, you can find a tall, thin person. You might probably find some short jack eyes that can pretend if you miss. Of course, yeah. You just have to, and there's enough, this is a plant, like, especially if you're just watching video. Yeah. So that's a different one. Yes, see, okay. That one's very slow. But also, that could be the end of the day.

2:45:40But also, look at his posture, though, the heads at an angle is that have straight up. Right. That's the difference for me. Well, it's also, he looks like he's struggling there to walk. Whereas the other one of the new guy, the recent one, he doesn't look very struggling at all. So this is the, look how he's going up to stairs. Affertless man. Weird. He's going up to stairs like a regular person. Yeah. Not fallen. Well, he's not struggling. There's like a hitch to the gate. Like, you saw at the debate when he had to step down off the platform, we had to do it sideways. Can we, like, remember when she was asked to have a debate by Stephen Colbert?

2:46:16So look at this one right now. So this is him walking in that other one. He's really struggling there. But again, that could be just like his mental ability. Yeah. He could come and go, especially with that fucking juicy alien cocktail that jazzed in place. Or it could be jet lag. Imagine if he really did grow six inches. It really is budding. They do really do have some stuff. It rejuvenates you, but you also grow. Get on that shit in two minutes. It'll be a real problem. What? We're going to look like the honor knocking. Like that dude with the fucking rubber in his face. Yeah, yeah. We're all going to be 10 feet tall.

2:46:50It's like maybe that's what the honor knock you are. Because the whole thing is that they're supposed to wait taller than us. I was talking to Kurt Metzger about this. Oh boy. And I love Kurt. He's just. I know. I just. He will go off. He's easy and he gets to your face. He's looking. Suck it on a vape pad. And then he. It's so great. And I'm just giving, giving, giving. Oh, he's a bad guy. And he had this whole thing about the typography of the different aliens. And like these ones hate these ones. These ones look white. These ones look like aliens and. Kerrplus everything. He, Jimmy Dorsho wrecked him.

2:47:23Being on that show, he was normal before he started all of there. Yeah. Well, he was always crazy. But he was like a different kind of crazy. Yeah, but I don't think Kurt's crazy because everything he says, I look up and there's receipts. It's based on something. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't mean crazy, like incorrect. Right. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Like I'll show you the walls of text that he sends me. I'm sure he sends me to. Yeah, of course. He lives here now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I tracked him in the moon here. Yeah, good. But he's the best. And he's such a funny dude too.

2:47:49And his ability to like have jokes. He's like a joke machine. And for any situation that comes up, there are two things Kurt told me that I think about like once a week because they're so funny. And I'm just like, I'm in the presence of like comedy legend. One is he was talking to Patrice O 'Neil and Kurt had just seen Fight Club. And Patrice is like, oh, that's an ultimate white people movie. And Kurt's like, what do you mean? He goes, oh, I don't have enough violence in my life. I got to go seek it out and get, I want someone to punch me in the face. I don't know what that's like. He's like, yeah.

2:48:17So that was one. And then Kurt did his homework on Paul Adin who got canceled because she used the N -word once. And he looked it up. And it turned out that she said it when she was getting robbed at gunpoint as a bank clerk. And he goes, this is the most progressive old fat Southern white lady ever. He goes, they should build a statue to her. That's really when she said it. Yes. And dads will bring their sons. And the plaque will say she only said it once. It looked son. This is a progressive. I didn't know that's what happened. Yes. A part, a part, a part. Please double check this. Yeah, you never know.

2:48:52He also told me that that plane that disappeared gets sucked into a vortex. No, he didn't. Oh, yeah, send me videos. The Malaysian. Yeah, that one. Well, remember Don Lemon asked if it was a black hole on CNN, the dumbest man on four, four really dumbest man on television. What if it was a black hole? Is it an interesting watching guys like him without the whole production crew? With that Chris Cuomo. Yeah, yeah. Frado. Well, what Dave Smith did to him, holy shit. Those like Mike Tyson versus Marvis Frazier in the 80s. It was a beautiful, beautiful thing. And it couldn't happen to a better guy.

2:49:26And it's even funnier is, you know how Greeks like tantalists like in the afterlife, he's always reaching for water or food. And it's always out of his reach because he served his son to the gods as food. Like when you're on CNN, like Rogan and these podcasts, even the audience is 100 times bigger, it's like beneath you because they're like nothing and I'm the real guy. And now he's got to be a sidekick on Patrick, but David, no disrespect to Patrick at all. And he knows that every single person at CNN, the camera guy, the door guy is laughing at what a nothing in their eyes he's become. It's kind of genius by Patrick to put him on his own.

2:50:00Oh, it is. Personal hell. It's kind of genius because you really can't escape not just what you've said, but the tendencies you've developed and being on those broadcast networks. Kind of sneering. Yeah. So kind of sending it. It's the Patrick. It's kind of crazy. It's hilarious. Yeah. Well, Elon did it too with with lemon with one Joe. Well, lemon wanted ownership. Well, it's not just that. The way they had the conversation, he was trying to do CNN outside CNN. That's how Elon said it. He's doing CNN outside of CNN. It was and now bitch can't get arrested. Yeah. But that's like the quality of his discourse, right?

2:50:41That's where he deserves to be. It's not good conversations. It's not interesting. You know what I always say, I say the enemy class is not composed of impressive people. And now the biggest alpha male and CNN is Caitlin Collins. Yeah. They're all gone. Well, Jake Tapper still there. Yes, he did. He did. I Jake Tapper is an honest guy, I think. I, I, and who was the other woman? Martha, was it, who was the, uh, the female moderator? I don't know. Uh, Dana Bash, was that her name? I, and everyone else must give them credit for doing such an honest and fair job at the debate. They let them both speak.

2:51:18They didn't talk over them. The questions were reasonable and tough questions for both parties. I didn't think he had it in him. So Kudos to Jake Tapper. And I'm going to apologize for saying that he always looks like someone just farted. Yeah. Because he did a great job. And he also did a great job with Chris Coons, who's head of Barton's campaign. He was holding his feet to the fire about the debate. So I didn't know where, where this came from, but I was wrong about Jake Tapper. Yeah. It's, um, I think there's a lot of people that are in media that didn't want to do the thing that they're doing now.

2:51:50They didn't want to do it that way. But now they're in this machine. And this is what they want to do because this, they want to keep their career. Well, this is their only way to have status. These are mediocre people. Yeah. They don't have, they're not going to, if you're not writing for the New York Times, no one's reading a sub -stack. You're in nobody. I don't know. You're not interesting. They're not impressive or interesting people. Look at this guy, no opinion, who, like he's, if you look at his photo, he looks like Jared from Subway. Who? Exactly. Who are you talking about? No opinion.

2:52:17Who's that? He's one, he's nobody. Oh, is it no opinion? Yes. Not Noah. No, it's not. I thought you were saying Noah. I am. I am. No, A .H. P .I .N. I always. So it's like Mike Kant, like Mike Kant. It's just like that. Yeah. Except he would not like that. Does anybody see Mike Kant? And no one see no opinion. Interesting. Well, there's a lot of those guys, right? A lot of them. Yeah. And then you think they're just getting paid, just like this conservative guy that I know. I don't think it's an offer. That's how they're getting paid. It's that like they do not, they're violently anti -carrismatic.

2:52:50No one wants them at the party. So all they can do is go on these other, and I say to someone who does this a lot myself, go on like social media and try to kind of make Aaron Rupar make a name for yourself by just spouting complete nonsense. Who's the best at it? Best in what way? Keith O 'Brien. Oh.

2:53:14My favorite angry lesbian. She literally has brain damage. He's a gift, really? Oh, yeah. What happened? Traumatic brain injury. From what? Like got hit by like a Tinder block or something. Whoa. Look the sub Jamie, it's on his Wikipedia. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah. So he's, he's, he said, did you see that he said the CNN building should be burned down? Oh. He said, ever kick everyone out and burn down the building. For what? Because of the debate. Wow. Yeah. This is not someone who's well. So when did he get it in the head? I think the 80s. Whoa. It's been a minute. Yeah. Oh, man. And what's even funnier is that his Twitter, he used to have it a million Twitter followers and it's slowly been going down because he ate because at a certain point even the boomer's like, okay, dude, calm down.

2:53:57Trump isn't literally going to kill you tomorrow. He's amazing. Yeah, he's so great. He's a gift. Remember when you used to do that show from his basement? Oh, yeah. Like the resistance, you know, and any day now Donald Trump will be locked up. So I'm just going to shut the show down and then. Well, he was right. He's a get locked up. They eventually, yeah, they arrested him. Yeah, eventually. That's a crazy one, huh? The 34 counts of felony counts that were all misdemeanors. And did you see Andrew Cuomo? Yeah. Came out and it's like, this is bullshit. Yeah. And talked about it on Bill Maughan.

2:54:27Yeah. Yeah. That I was surprised at. Cuomo's a guy they shouldn't have got rid of because that guy could have won. He could have been the president. He, what about killing all the old people? Yeah, that was a little bit of a problem. Well, we didn't know. We didn't know. When you're president, you're supposed to kill young people, not old people. Right. And that's supposed to take COVID patients and throw back in the nursing homes and then put a bunch of people on ventilators. Whoops. Yeah. Whoopsies. But they didn't know. They thought ventilators were the way to go. But they knew. Sure. But the point is if you got something this bad wrong and then tried to cover it up, it's going to be hard to get through that White House.

2:54:59Yeah. That's a bit of an issue. Yeah. The nursing home. And also as a New York Jew, that New York Italian attitude, I know that works in middle America if you're trying to be president. You're going to have to do something deal with. Well, Chelsea Handler said she was Cuomo sexual. So that's how it was that. Chelsea Handler was that, but that dude's final form was. Everybody loved Cuomo when he was running New York at the beginning of the pandemic because he seemed so reasonable and measured and leader like. Well, he, I know. And his one thing I did like about him is that he would have those daily updates.

2:55:32So he was doing trying to do what he could to be as visible and, you know, have as much information as possible. The better than the guy, the lady they have now. Those black people don't know what computers are. Kathy Huckle. Jesus Christ. Get this bitch a broom and send her back where she came from. Holy crap. Oh, Jesus Christ. They're the wild. They don't know what computers are. New York is a New York is a rap. This is why I'm here. I still am. I'm fine. Oh, I want credit from your boy, Elon. What'd you do? I am the first person on earth, I believe, learning how to drive on a cyber truck. Really?

2:56:10Yes. You didn't know how to drive at all. I still don't really. My buddy Colin Rob's a professional car tester, whatever NASCAR. My buddy Sky King. They rented a cyber truck. They're like, all right, let's do it. It's like my fourth lesson. I only clipped one window, but I was doing what would you hit? I didn't. I wasn't told Colin that when you're going down these narrow streets, you're supposed to hug the median instead of imagining if there's two lanes. So I some park car had a window at a mirror. Excuse me. I clicked it. But it was fine. And the window popped off the cyber truck. The mirror and we popped it back on.

2:56:44Oh, so it just bent backwards. Not even like a little just right. Yeah, well, they they give in. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's what the way they're designed. Yeah, that's a crazy car to learn how to drive on. Yeah, it was wide. Yeah, big. And also like heavy as fuck. But I felt safe that if I got an accident, somebody else would have the consequences. That's true, which was the fear that people have about people driving those things. You're essentially driving a giant steel box. It's bulletproof. And you know that puts on a like a show? Oh, yeah, it'll dance for you, right? There's a laser show and there's also a megaphone.

2:57:18Really? Yeah. And also he's a Simpsons fan because when Homer Simpson designed a car for his brother and ruined his brother's company, Homer said there should be horns everywhere and they should all play like a caratja. And you can make the horn one of like 15 choices is like a caratja. Oh my god. And I know that's a Simpsons joke. That's hilarious. He's done a lot of wild things with that car with all of his cars. It's like though, you know, if you say you press the speak thing, it's a open butthole. The port opens up to charge us. Yes, does. I'll show you. It minds out here. Oh my god. That's hilarious.

2:57:51You say open butthole. And the port pops open. He's like 14. There's very few humans like him that are going to be able to run a social media site like that and also just be able to handle being attacked relentlessly and like complete teflon. Open butthole. See? Does someone say it? Open butthole. Yeah. Say it. Wow. Oh, hilarious. I still never, I've been around him a couple of times. I've never hung out with him. So I'm looking forward to it. He's a good dude. Yeah. He's fascinating character. When he's handling this very bizarre position in life, I was about as good as you can. When no one's going to handle that very well.

2:58:31I think he did it. He really stuck his neck out with Twitter. I'm dead naming it. $44 billion is a big stick your neck out. Because what's it worth now? I don't think it's the money it's a stick your neck out. It's like he's a target now. Right. He used to love him for the electric cars now. I think he's a fascist. Isn't that interesting? Like the people that loved him in California, if you drove a Tesla, it was a sign that you were environmentally conscious. You read the New Yorker. Yeah. You're a good person. Yeah. Yeah. You're driving a Tesla. I still think I don't think there's a stigma to it yet.

2:59:01Not yet. They haven't completely. They're too good. Yeah. Then they haven't completely marginalized him or tried to or stigmatized him rather, I should say. It just doesn't work. It just kind of trips off of them. Because there's so much support for him, you know, is just most people recognize that you really, especially when the Twitter files came out when Tai -Ebi and Sheldon Burger released all those Twitter files and you, you realize like there was like a real concerted effort to hide the truth from people. And then people being gasped to be like, we knew all this the whole time. No, no, we didn't.

2:59:31It's also the stuff about COVID with Jay about a chariot and all those other people that got unfairly maligned, you know, real experts, actual experts. And the government was telling them to suppress them. Which also tells me that they wouldn't be able to do it a second time. You think so? Because I think he, he's autistic enough that he dig in his heels. Right. And that's not a knock against him. That's a compliment. I wonder if someone's going to try to take him out. He's got great security and body doubles. Does he have body doubles? Let's get that Chinese guy. He's got to be like a robot. He's got to have like like a legs 100 clones of himself every single Chinese Elon.

3:00:08No. There's a guy who looks almost exactly like him who lives in China. So slightly off like if it was like you spliced him. Wait, you're saying there's a Chinese person who looks like somebody else? It looks almost exactly like Elon. Not like a regular Chinese guy. Let's, can you pull it off? Yeah, I can't tell if this is real or wrong. I think it's real because I just make sure I don't pull the wrong video up as well. Right. Yeah, because he's in fuck with you now. He's just going to pull up Jackie Chan. Bruce Lee. What was the seal on my skin? I think this is him. It doesn't look like a deep fake.

3:00:45Oh, yeah, that, yeah. Okay, I could see it. I mean, I think. Yeah, I think that's the one. I could see it. Yeah, I wish I could deep fake too. It does look a little deep fake. That's how Elon talks. God, that's pretty close. But the motions aren't correct. Yeah, but the, the, the face is, is lips. The eyes aren't moving right. They'll fake. Yeah. And the clothes are way off. That didn't right. The end of the look. One million followers. Oh, crap. There's a lot of videos of this guy up there. That's hard to say, man, because there's something about his face to me. I got that uncanny valley thing going on with this.

3:01:18Like it might, this looks like bullshit. Oh, by the way. He's got good dimples moving here. The muscles in the face are moving pretty good. You can't, that's pretty hard to say. The eyes are really creepy. Those are Elon's eyes. It's just the weird eyes as well. It's so close. But he doesn't look Asian. That's what's weird. That's Elon's face. That really does look like, that really does look like some AI. That looks like AI. That's gotta be AI. There's no way that's not AI. That's Elon's face. Google is the Asian Elon Musk fake. That's, that's Elon's face. The one that I saw that I remember seeing was from about two years ago.

3:01:54And it was much less obvious. It was like close. Like, oh, look at that guy looks just like him. Oh, look at this. It's suspended from... Oh, oh. It's been suspended. Wow. Why is he suspended? Chinese doppelganger suspended from China's TikTok. Huh.

3:02:18Interesting. So it's real.

3:02:25He's been dubbed by internet. Wait, I'm sorry. Why are we not calling him the Chinese knockoff? That's the line. He's the Chinese knockoff Elon. Let's cheaper. Shadya quality. He's been deleted on Weibo, all but three posts are left. He long musk. He count largely inactive as well. Local reports have noticed that Elon's doppelganger was banned for violating China's TikTok.

3:02:56And he's been called the Chinese knockoff. He's been called the Chinese knockoff. He's been called the Chinese knockoff. He's been called the Chinese knockoff. He's been called the Chinese knockoff. He's been called the Chinese knockoff. He's been called the Chinese knockoff. He's been called the Chinese knockoff. He's been called the Chinese knockoff. He's been called the Chinese knockoff. He's been called the Chinese knockoff. He's been called the Chinese knockoff. Do you want to say something to him? No. Gavin Newsom said that you shouldn't be posting this. We're going to make it illegal. And I'm going to sign a law.

3:03:28And he said, Professor Sagan, these nuts. No, he didn't. Yes, he did. Elon said that to Gavin Newsom? Yes, he did. Yeah. Pull that post up, Jamie. It's so hilarious. He said, Professor Sagan, these nuts. Says it's legit and that parody is legal. I forget what his exact quote was. I'm paraphrasing, but parody is allowed by law, which it should be. Yeah, no shit. Yeah. But the fact that they're using AI to generate her saying a bunch of stuff. Was it actually her voice, though? Yeah. I thought they clipped it. It wasn't AI. I thought it was like sound bites that they stitched together. Perhaps. Because it's not, it's choppy.

3:04:09Right. But yeah, I don't know how they did it. They most certainly could do it with AI, though. But that would also make it seem choppy because it doesn't really run in the cadence of a normal human's peak. But it seemed like the words were like, you know, they just added like not, the words were not anything fancy. Could, remember when they did that with Reagan? No. Yeah, they did that with Reagan. That was the first one they ever did. Way, way, way back in the day. I think it was Iran. I forget what country did it, but they made some fake audio recording of Reagan. And then upon analysis. And again, this is in the 80s, right?

3:04:47So the technology was very crude at the time. They just audio stitched it together and edited it. They found bits and pieces from each one of his speeches that they'd compiled this one thing to. But that was the first time that ever it happened. Elon retweets altered Kamala Harris campaign. She says, look at it. It says back up. It says manipulating voices in an ad like this should be illegal. I'll be signing a bill in a matter of weeks to make sure it is. And then he says on a note, I checked with renowned world authority. Professors, Suggon, D's nuts. And he said parody is legal in America. Oh my God.

3:05:21Hilarious. We don't deserve him. Hilarious. What a wild dude. Wow. What a wild dude. Because he's not scared of those folks. Because he's the richest man in the world. It's not like, it's not. Would you be scared of Gavin Newsom? No. But it's also like what Gavin Newsom represents. Right. He's a part of this machine. Right. You know, you attack him like that. They're going to attack you. Even if you're attacking that Reagan thing. Even if you don't attack him like that, they're going to attack you. The Reagan audio compilation. I forget what it was in reference to. But it was something, I mean, Reagan was saying something outrage that he would never say.

3:05:54And they... Well they have that for like, I ran. They have a bunch of people saying whatever they want them to say. But this was back in the day. And then they put it on television on the news, showing all the different pieces of different speeches of him wearing different suits of all the things that he had actually said and how they have pieced it together. This is like very early on indication that you got to be careful with technology. This was very rudimentary technology, relatively speaking. It was like, you have to pee. I did. I did. I'm trying to find it. A couple more minutes. They took a bunch of Ronald Reagan speeches and they spliced them together to make an inaccurate fake.

3:06:37Make him say something he never really said. But I remember it was on the news. It was like a big deal. I don't remember this at all. I feel like I'm Reagan. I don't remember it. Maybe it's one of those... Mendel Effect? Yeah. I'm having something with that right now. With what? My friend Michael Wolfe, he's a strength coach here in Austin. He's got a great dog named Chops. And I remember very distinctly that Chops looks like he's mostly great -dane. He's got the coat color. He's big. And I remember distinctly Michael telling me, oh, we did the DNA test. He's actually not great -dane at all. He's something else and has some radiation -rich back.

3:07:12And I'm hanging out with him in Chops and I go to him. I go, it's just so funny that there's no great -dane in him. And he goes, what are you talking about? And I go, the test goes, never did this. And I don't know any other dog where this could be. So I'm paying for him to do the DNA test to see if this is a Mendel Effect thing. Because I remember very specific of that conversation. That's bizarre. Yep. You think the simulation's real? Yes. I know it's real. Because it keeps winking. You've had it winking to you all the time. I'm sure. I was with you at the green room and I go, Joe, like all these things are happening.

3:07:49Like, is it ever getting normal? You go, no, no, no. You're just going to have to go with it. Like I talked to Jordan Peterson about this. He goes, at a certain point, you wake up and you're like, oh, the president's yelling at me today. And he's like, you just have to accept this is what your reality is. Yeah, when it happens to me, I just hear that Queen's of the Stone Age song. Go with the flow. Yeah. It's like, all right, this is this. So, yeah, Roseanne's texting me now. Okay, I guess this is my life. This is what we're dealing with. Yes. Of course, we're in a simulation. You don't think that this is a 3D projection of a 40 world.

3:08:17Who's running that? The machine elves? Right. That's more likely. Yes. Yeah. Trixters. That's why it's so silly. That's why it's so fun for me. Right. And for you, at any comedian. Right. A real comedian. Yeah. If you really embrace the chaos. Yeah. Not if you're just a can. Yeah. Double mask and tell people how to vote. Yes. And put on a song and dance for Pfizer. Yes. Good Lord. Good Lord. Stephen Colbert priest must be, but he wasn't really comedian. Colbert was never a standup. Yeah, but Stangeloot candy was one of the greatest shows of all time. It was one of the most transgressive shows of all time.

3:08:55And now. I don't know what Stangeloot candy is. Oh my god. I never watched. I only knew him from the Colbert Report and from being on the Daily Show. Stranger with candy is one of the greatest shows of all time. Really? I'll tell you what it's about. It's about starring Amosidaris, David Saras' sister. It's about a woman named Jerry Blank who returns to high school picking up her life where she left it off as a teenage runaway. And she became a user, a boozer, and a loser. So she's this 47 year old ex -junkie prostitute. Yeah. And Colbert was her teacher. 99. Yeah. Wow. Well, Colbert was amazing as that character.

3:09:34Yes. And then when you see him on the, the, the his actual show, you're like, hey. Is that really you? Like, who are you? He knows better. That's why he's not off the hook in my book. Mr. Noblet was the teacher, yeah. Mm -hmm. Jerry, I know that, you know, we have our tough times and you think that I hate you. But I want you to know that I hate you. She's like, I hate you too, Mr. Noblet. We probably shouldn't hug. No, no, no, no. I want to check that show out. Oh, it's season three. I mean, season three. When, when on a rider was in the last episode. No, Kim. Yeah. They got when on a rider on TV.

3:10:07I'm so weird that I never heard of it. The pilot episode. Maybe I didn't have forgot. The pilot episode, they try to get Jerry to spy in her locker mate because they suspect her locker mate might be retarded. And they're like, well, why do you want me to, you know, turn her in? And he's like, well, you've got those braces and they tend to be attracted to, you know, shiny objects. Oh, my God. So that was the pilot episode. Wow. I had three seasons, but it was only on TV for like a year and a half. No, no, it was three years. It wasn't a year. That's what this says. I'm looking at the Wikipedia.

3:10:40It says like season three started in July 2000 and ended October 2000. When it's season one start. April 99, ended July 9. Wow. There were that quick. So they were like, yeah, those six months seasons. It was, there was one episode. I have a side. What was it on? Comedy Central. Oh, okay. That makes sense. I have in my living reframed because I wrote to her, she's hooking up with the football player. And she's like, don't worry about getting me pregnant. My ovaries are diseased. So I have my ovaries to my ovaries to disease, Jerry Blank, signed by Amy. Oh, it's awesome. It's a great. So he was on this show.

3:11:15And like him and the other teacher are giving to the blow jobs in the bathroom. Like that kind of humor. And now look at him. You know, remember when he was dancing with Chuck Schumer and the high fives him. Did you ever see that? No. Oh yeah, they're all wearing masks. They're dancing around outside. And he's dancing. Chuck Schumer and he dances over and high fives Chuck Schumer. I hope it's worth it for him. However much money they give him. Maybe it's just, see they're all dancing. Look. No, no, no. Yeah, look at him. Look at him. All these people are mass on outside. They'll leave double masking.

3:11:47But he's not wearing a mask. Of course, he's a rebel. He's from Strangers with Candy. So wow, man, look at him. Well, he probably recently got vaccinated or something ridiculous. The mass days. Even when I look at videos and I see people wearing masks. I can't believe that's real. I can't believe that it was just a couple of years ago. What about you? You still see them in the airports? Yeah. Goofy people. Well, I was assumed now that they have like some disease. It's a good thing to assume. I used to assume they're from another country. Yeah. Yeah. People from other countries would wear masks all the time.

3:12:18There were a lot of masks. There's being polite. They just being polite. They don't spit on you. Yeah. These people over here are just nuts. You've got to go to Japan, dude. I will go. Michael Malos, you're the fuck a man. I appreciate you very much. It's always fun hanging out with you. Thank you so much, sir. My pleasure, brother. Let's hang out. Yep. Okay. Bye, everybody.

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Michael Malice is a cultural commentator, host of the PodcastOne podcast "YOUR WELCOME," and author of several books, including "Dear Reader: The Unauthorized Autobiography of Kim Jong Il," "The Anarchist Handbook," and "The White Pill: A Tale of Good & Evil."
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