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The Joe Rogan Experience: Episode #2189 - Dennis Quaid
Episode Overview This episode features Dennis Quaid, a renowned actor and musician. The discussion touches upon Quaid's career, his new gospel album, "Fallen: A Gospel Record for Sinners," and his latest role as Ronald Reagan in an upcoming biopic, "Reagan." The conversation also dives into Quaid's thoughts on politics, the film industry, and societal issues.
Key Discussions
Dennis Quaid's Gospel Album
- Album Title: "Fallen: A Gospel Record for Sinners"
- Concept: Quaid describes it as a reflection of his spiritual journey through gospel music, featuring both traditional Baptist hymns and original songs.
- Motivation: Inspired by personal experiences, including writing a song for his mother after overcoming addiction.
Acting Journey and Hollywood in the 70s
- Quaid reminisces about his early days in Hollywood, noting the influence of his brother and the distinct cultural landscape of the 70s.
- Reflects on the transition from aspiring veterinarian to actor due to an impactful experience during a vet assistant job.
Political Views and Reflections
- Hollywood and Politics: Discusses the transformation of Hollywood from its rebellious roots to its current status as part of the establishment.
- Polarization: Expresses concerns about the current political climate and the lack of bipartisan cooperation, comparing it to past decades.
- Trump and Reagan Comparisons: Quaid shares his views on Donald Trump and historical perspectives on Ronald Reagan, emphasizing the importance of a strong leader.
Reagan Biopic
- Film Content: Covers Reagan's life from childhood to post-presidency, focusing on his fight against communism and political journey.
- Challenges in Portrayal: Quaid talks about the challenges and responsibilities of portraying such a well-known figure.
- Release Date: Scheduled for release on August 30.
Societal Issues and Controversies
The Role of Media and Technology
- Media Bias: Discussion on the influence of media and tech companies on public opinion and politics.
- AI and Film Industry: Concerns about AI's impact on the film industry, including potential job losses and ethical considerations.
Transgender Issues in Sports
- Quaid and Rogan discuss the complexities and controversies around transgender athletes competing in women's sports, highlighting science and fairness concerns.
Border and Immigration Policies
- Open Borders: Critiques current immigration policies, emphasizing the security risks and societal impacts.
- Venezuelan Gangs: References to gangs exploiting lax immigration policies, leading to law and order challenges in cities like Aurora, Colorado.
Historical Parallels and Government Trust
- Quaid reflects on historical events like the JFK assassination and Watergate, drawing parallels to modern-day political issues and public distrust in government institutions.
Personal Reflections and Future Outlook
- Quaid's Career: Shares insights into balancing acting with personal convictions and the importance of speaking out on political issues.
- Hope for America: Expresses faith in the American people to navigate current challenges and the potential for positive change.
Conclusion Dennis Quaid provides a multifaceted discussion that touches upon his artistic endeavors, political insights, and concerns about societal issues, punctuated by reflections on history and contemporary challenges. The episode serves as both a personal narrative and a broader commentary on the state of the nation and the film industry.
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Transcript
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1:28It's bold and sophisticated yet incredibly smooth Finishing long and deep. It's authentically American Representing uncompromising quality for the rugged the powerful and the passionate tap the banner to learn more or visit Buffalo trace distillery dot com That's Buffalo trace distillery dot com distilled aged and bottled by Buffalo trace distillery 90 proof Franklin County Kentucky Buffalo trace American family owned Independent and perfectly untamed The Joe Rogan experience Nice to meet you man you too man really pleasure. I've seen so many of your fucking movies It's always weird when you meet someone that you've seen so many times and movies.
2:25Yeah, there he is real person Yeah, there they are I didn't know you do you you released a gospel album though. Yeah last last year. That's wild. Yeah, it's Called fallen a gospel record for centers because I wanted the biggest possible audience Gospel record for centers. Yeah How long you've been singing gospel? Well, you know Basically I grew up at the Baptist Church And so it's five songs that I grew up with and it's five songs that I wrote before and during the making of the record It's got to like my spiritual journey, I guess that's wait turned out in the end my wife she put the Order together and that's what it seems to be kind of my Journey in life was this something that you had thought about for a while or they just kind of Yeah Yeah, I wrote this song called on my way to heaven and wrote it from my mom to let her know that I was okay after I got out of like rehab and for cocaine in 1990 and then I Then I wrote the fallen which is kind of like taken from Remember that movie Thunder Road with Robert Mitchum, you know It's kind of like in that vein or that that kind of feel to it and there's this highway called the devil's backbone up near Bandera and so it's it's a ride with a devil Wind up Getting left for dead on the side of the road.
4:04So this was just something that you felt like Like fuck it. I've done everything else. Why not do a gospel? Yeah, you know of Recorded I've always been a songwriter. I got a guitar when I was 12 years old my grandfather bought being you know Western auto It's a great place to buy guitars and You know, I didn't realize I was never gonna shred a guitar So I a songwriting became like a defense, you know, somebody you could bring to a band right and so I've always done it and But I got this offer from Gether because they heard Bill Gether had heard the song on my way to heaven Asked me to do a gospel record.
4:46So said yeah, wow. Yeah, it was a great experience early really and on my way to heaven in fact um 10 you Tucker heard it and She called me up out of the blue I hadn't seen her like in 30 years and said she wanted to do it So I said okay, and then she called me 15 minutes later as she said Chris Christoffer wants to do it whoa and Wow, you know, so And Brandy Carlisle is doing a Backup singing on it and it's in myself and we're gonna put that out this year is a single wow That's awesome. Yeah, Chris is just the greatest. I love that guy. I love him one of the highway man Yeah, come on. Yeah, okay, I think wow so you would tell me that you you got a Hollywood in the 70s Yeah, I went I went out there.
5:44I was born in Houston, you know and grew up there and I was in acting class Mr. Pickett will always bring him up because the so many people actually started working my brother was you know his student as well and My brother was already out there and in California and he had been nominated for the last detail and stuff It's so I got to realize hey, he can actually do this stuff, you know get paid for it and I went out there at 75 and You know uh Just driven and got an agent after about a year. Wow. Did you have any previous acting experience? Or something? Yeah, I drummed in in college. I wouldn't serious about it in high school.
6:31I was gonna be a veteran area And that's what I wanted to be Really? Yeah, I was a vets assistant Up in East Texas. I'd spend summers up in East Texas, you know Jacksonville Frankston and I worked for a vet what a you know 1415 and that's what I was gonna do until one day we Did like a house call out to this guy's farm to castrate his horse and the farmer did want to sit out there in the field Weight for him to wake up from a full anesthetics. They only gave him half of it and since just since it is legs up like this And that horse stood up on two legs and it was just man it was horrific and that kind of uh, I think that's what Change my mind.
7:24Maybe I should be an actor Had a play of veteran area the horse. Yeah, I'm sure the horse was not enjoying that. No, that's yeah That's it got to be a bad feel also as a man like I don't want to do that. I don't I didn't do that to my dog No, I don't do that to any my dog. No, you can get that done for free in California if you Even your person What the fuck yeah very different in the 70s, huh? Yeah Yeah, you went through it like 70s in Hollywood must have been a weird experience man. Oh, it was fantastic It was it was amazing man that that whole era of the 70s, you know, which started with Bonnie and Clyde and and Easy writer great film.
8:08Yeah, great film. The French new wave You know, what they called it, you know kind of more handheld the grittier And it was the return of the the anti hero and the rebel hero and because Hollywood had lost touch with their audience, you know, they were making movies like Toby Tyler and you know these bloated musicals which but and So it It became like the inmates had taken over the asylum. There was really new exciting stuff getting done like, you know badlands and The conversation and you know, which led to the godfather and it's That was I think the golden age of filmmaking. Well certainly some amazing films came out of that era It's just just seeing Los Angeles today and imagining what it was like in the 70s It had to be because it really movies If you really think about it, there were only a few decades old back then.
9:09Yeah, so a new thing essentially Yeah, they just like perfected it. I mean really It was only like 10 years into where Uh, all the movies were color that they were making black and white movies up till like 63, you know, right like the hustler was black and white Yeah, that was 63. Yeah, yeah and uh It was an exciting time like I said in the inmates to take it over the asylum and it was a feeling like you could do Just about anything and music too was really happening in Los Angeles as well. I mean record deals were getting signed left and right and uh, it You know, there was this It's kind of turned upside down now because all that rebellious Attitude of the 70s and everybody you did it sort of became the establishment I think yeah bizarre right It's it's really kind of turned up on its ear because the way it started to kind of really turn politically correct in the 90s and It became kind of a nobody stays that a party after 11 o 'clock You know You wanted to rehab no After that no matter where you're going You know you asked where he's been getting for 10 you were going to bed Oh look at the time yeah, I was looking at the hole I guess everybody had kids too at that point but then it just it got to where Of where we are today that you know you're getting Warned to keep your mouth shut because of It turned upside down.
10:57You know, it's also one ideology dominates especially in Hollywood dominates the entire business You know one of the things that I said that drove me crazy about Hollywood was there's people that had differing opinions about things But they would never speak out because it could damage their career right and it really can't they will fucking blackball you I mean they tried to you know There were a couple of attempts to cancel me while we were making Reagan in fact You know kind of half -hearted I guess But uh it's It has become that you know and That ain't right. I mean back then Few people really were I guess conservative Let's throw out parties and just call it conservative.
11:46I mean you had John Wayne Yeah, but he you didn't know if John Boyd was conservative back It wasn't vocal about it. Not back in the 70s. No and But it was basically John Wayne and Charlton tested right and That you that was pretty much about it but or anybody wearing a tie Well, how did the rebels because like what the fuck happened? How did the rebels become the establishment? That's That is Uh, we went through an era where we're remember tolerance that was what we were trying to do like back in the teens I think in the tens we tolerate other groups and all that and That didn't last very long and Seems like one had it over the other but if you ask me were this great divide really started politically, I think Of course there was watergate but You come up to like when the Republicans had their contract with America Think it was like 94 in you know the year that Clinton was going to be a lame duck president had that those midterms and um Then it started to become just along party lines Where there was no you know you were a traitor if you went to the other side or because we had conservative conservative Democrats we had liberal Republicans up until that point, you know, that's what what I grew up with and uh That wasn't good enough anymore and so He started there and you know and then continued and the you know then the Democrats really took over and They really do it really well uh as far as as that stuff of turning things on their head and um Uh, you know they're I feel like today they're you know they were using the judicial system Against Trump yeah, for sure really off the reservation Well, they're using the judicial system of against Trump the entire media establishment other than Fox news right completely against Anything Republican right and it's full filled did you see On co bear the other day Kristen Collins, I don't know yeah, yeah, I saw that she said co bear says the Fox just reports or CNN just reports the facts the whole audience starts laughing Yeah, was that a laugh line?
14:22Yeah, he'll say I guess it is. Yeah, which is so people people get it Oh, they don't get it. That's what you know, well the pandemic is being is that people do get it Sometimes I think everybody just swallowing this There's a lot of people that are still swallowing a lot of boomers a lot of older folks that are just swallowing whatever's in the newspaper and whatever's on television and a lot of people aren't newswalkies like you and I Yeah, they just get the sound bites and that's exactly that's what they do it for and What's disheartening the more you do a deep dive on the actual facts about a thing You know like I've heard people repeat I've had conversations with people they go well, you know Trump's a felon He's he's convicted of 34 felonies.
15:03I go okay. Do you know what those things are? Do you know do you know that they're misdemeanors? misdemeanors do you know that that you know the statute of limitations had had brought out on this little misdemeanor Yeah, the whole thing is the same campaign contribution that they just did all kind of gymnastics to make it happen and then the third person in the In line in the justice department comes back to New York to oversee this case and You know just It's just incredibly dangerous. It's incredibly dangerous because it can also be turned around yes, you know And there has to come a point where we go stop yeah, you know, we have to stop this or we're losing her country Yeah, I think they're more concerned with being empowered than they are with preserving the idea of democracy That's yeah, I totally agree with that and I think For some of that was certainly they were emboldened by the fact They're essentially running the country without a president for the last three years.
16:04Yes, because he's he's not It's not there not there really and since he's decided that he's not gonna run again He's gone. He's vanished. It makes me who's running it now exactly You know and then the thing is how much I like that who's gonna who's will be run it then because the Really can't see her like being in charge. No That it's a figurehead. It's all it is and what's really wild is the Babylon bee had a hilarious Little caption they said when I get in office. I'm gonna change things says the woman who's in office right now Because she's in office. Yeah, she's talking about fixing all these things like hey from day one On day one.
16:45I'm gonna really do something about the border Says the borders are essentially the president right now. Yeah, this is so fucking crazy You'll be the president for five more months. Yeah, this is so nuts. Yeah Just she's flipped on everything except for plastic straws She still wants to get rid of those Did you see the thing where Trump came out and said that he was going to stop taxes for tips? Yeah of hospitality workers and yeah, you wouldn't tax them on tips anymore That was like a month and a half ago. Yeah, and then she came out and said she's gonna do it She's gonna stop tips and everybody cheered as if it was her idea.
17:22Well, here's the problem in 2022 She was one of the siding votes to go after people. Yeah, that we're not Reporting their tips was that on the inflation reduction act or the green new deal The grip well that thing was one of the same right she was the she was the tiebreaker. Yeah, exactly So they've got to tax the business Instead which in turn Taxes the the workers yeah, but it's hilarious that two years later. She's acting like this is her idea now Yeah, like you had a chance You could you could have swung it the other way two years ago Yeah, could have been right in there. It's just or that you know she was All the the brags that she was the last person in the room when it came to the withdrawal in Afghanistan Yeah, and You know we left 87 billion dollars of military equipment there 13 soldiers that were killed and we we still there's still people over there in hiding Yeah, and also the people that work with us all the people that work with all the translators How the Afghans that helped us they're all fucked.
18:31Well, it's trump had all that stuff I he had he was doing it right Yeah, he had that you know that meeting that he had With the Taliban leadership and where he So what We're gonna leave but if one soldier's head is touched we're gonna be back and And just to show you how we can do it Here's your address to the photo graph of his house. Yeah, they give it give him to him and that's when they went okay At Really the only thing I liked about trump was Everything that he did I would cringe it so much stuff that he said right But I think his his heart was really in the right place and and not like that we We need a really strong leader like that to deal with these assholes that Run the run the third while I want third world the other world You know there's some bad actors out there yeah unquestionably and the wireless thing is that People are pretending that if he gets in the office He's gonna become a dictator as if he wasn't in office for four years.
19:47Yeah, it was never a dictator right like the whole thing It's like we're just being a gaslit and lied to on a scale that I've never seen in my life to the point where it's CNN on television Saying that there's support the news becomes a huge laugh right or that they're just speak the news objectively Yeah, and It's it's incredible like I said that the democrats are really good at doing it because they say it's so bold face Yeah, yeah, well they have so much money the thing if you ever seen the difference between democrat donors versus republican donors Like there was a chart that someone made about the amount of people that donate to democratic party versus the amount of people that vote that Donate to the republican party.
20:29It's shocking big donors big donors It's that's where it's completely turned upside down because it used to be republicans were known as the fat cats and big oil and you know big business and all that would Would uh would be the big supporters and donors of the republicans and it was like those five and ten dollar donations were Of the democratic party because they're really a coalition of groups But then I think starting with Obama especially it started with social media. It really started to Uh get it into more of a corporate type of Tech oligarchy. Yes. Yeah, yeah, tech going on. It's a great way to put it.
21:14That's really what it is right Yeah, yeah, it's a tech oligarchy The tech things nuts because nobody anticipated That these corporations were gonna have this insane amount of influence and power over people You know, I've had this guy Robert Epstein on my podcast before I've never seen his work, but he basically does a statistical analysis of google search results and what google does to change People's opinions and how much of an effect it can have on swaying an election because if you go look for Trump rally You'll see a bunch of Kamala Harris things if you go to try to find something negative about Kamala You'll find something all these positive things about Kamala so these Quick searches where which most people do most people aren't doing deep dives for hours where they're going and you know Reading and finding other Alternative sources of information they get their information from a google search and that google search If you can curate it and make sure that all the positive stuff about the people that you want is upfront And all the negative stuff about the people you don't want is upfront.
22:15You could shift people's opinions by 20 30 percent Of course you can Yeah, and it's where were the algorithms that they have They already know your preferences. They know basically you know who you are to begin with yes, and They can maneuver that way. It should be illegal. It's not just the Russians We should have search results which search results should be Completely unbiased like that should be I should be a law because if you can curate searches if you can curate people's access to information And hide things that should be illegal that there should be nothing that has Anything to do with political ideology when it comes to searching for information It should just be whatever the information is I completely agree with you as well for one thing is run And frigid said democracy can handle it yeah, you know And yeah, he was he testified before the health subcommittee back back of the day, you know House of un -American activities and it said basically just let the comedy yeah let the communist go ahead and state their Causes it's okay to have a communist party in this country Because the exchange of ideas and it everything will Play out and democracy can handle it.
23:30Yeah, but we're kind of Excuse me. We're kind of going through with Reagan right now the movie we're going through a We're being censorship is happening to us through Facebook they Facebook banned Advertising and a lot of the podcast this won't probably be banned on Facebook As well that's over the last couple of months really just because it's a positive film about Reagan's out with the ideas that's bothering them It's uh I see it as it's a it's a my you know, it's a bio pick is really what it is it follows him from When he was a boy in Dixon all the way through when he second -by to the American people When he was diagnosed for Alzheimer's, you know after he was president and It's fight against communism, you know, which he fought all of his life and But they the reason being was that the the content in it was a an attempt to sway an election A A movie.
24:40I mean the last time I heard you know Reagan was on the ballot 40 years ago with with the last time do you think if you made a positive Obama movie it would be to sway an election? Both there wasn't Obama movie that came out during an election year 2020 and you know nothing about that and To me, I mean just the act of Of banning or censoring that material as you you were talking about is is an attempt to sway an election yeah and Reagan was a Democrat before he was a Republican by the way as was Trump. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Well, that's yes, and Facebook has said they made a mistake They said they yesterday because we we put out a letter to it in an article in Newsweek and They said they made a mistake.
25:29It was their automatic systems had detected it Oh Yeah, I don't know what those automatic systems are But there was a mistake in that yeah, I don't understand it. Yeah, I I don't know what's going on over there of its rogue employees If the problem is like so many of those people are so ideologically captured so many of the people that are working for any tech company There are kids coming out of the universities. They're all left wing Very few right wing people involved. It's a tiny tiny percentage, and they all feel like it's their duty They feel like they're activists before they're even to save America Yeah, which is like from what?
26:10Totally drank the cool aid. Yeah, if you ask me Yes, it's um that's what's unfortunate about the way Trump talks Because the way Trump talks it's easy to make him the enemy because he seems like a mean old rich man Yeah, and so in their eyes that is that's everything that's wrong in the world. Yes, they'll go after Yeah, make fun of you personally or whatever Yeah, but he didn't talk about those terms. You see he's you know Feels like a school yard bully or whatever, but it's it's he's You know with You know all the things they did to Trump. I do believe that when he as far as revenge and all that stuff that The success in the election would be his revenge.
26:55Yeah, and I really believe that uh Uh, if if it was Biden who was you know impeach or going to jail or whatever I think Trump would pardon him. Tell you the truth. I don't think he wants anybody to I see a president in jail because that really changes our country Well, he has said that openly about Hillary. Yeah, like when he got into office There was a lot of people that were pressing him to prosecute her to go after her Yeah for the email thing for a lot of different things and he said no That'd be a terrible luck and be terrible for our country the wife of the former president of the United States No way yeah, and he didn't do it So all these things that people think he's going to do.
27:34Well, he had the opportunity to do those things four years ago And they're thinking now they've done so many egregious things to him now with all the prosecutions and then the the years and years of rush a gate Every fucking news started saying one thing. Yeah, it started a day even before he even before I got in I got into office, you know, they were But you know, I wasn't I myself I wasn't Going to vote for Trump. I This time around I was wanting them to find another candidate You know that would kind of calm things down, but that's because that's I thought that's what we need we need to to calm things down But then when they went after him with the judicial system uh, these like stupid charges.
28:20Yeah, but that uh That that's that's when things change for me because then you're messing with the Constitution right and You know, we can't go back from that right after after something like that happens right and so that's why I'm jumping in All for Trump and the other thing is people need to understand that even if you hate Trump if you Normalize weaponizing the judicial system against a political candidate that can be used Against your party too exactly and if someone gets in like if the vague ramaswami gets in or if rendezvous Santa skits in and he starts doing the same things that they did to Trump then we have chaos.
29:04Yeah, then we're a fucking banana republic We're Venezuela where you can you can go down the line on how that works exactly. Yeah, it's terrifying We're like the last hope For this whole idea of this experiment in self -government Ronald Reagan said that that you know these freedoms that we take for granted They can be lost in a generation and I always thought well, it's kind of really high -talk and all that stuff but It's true. It's true. It's true. These are the craziest times. Yeah, that's the craziest and fascinating by the way that I've I've ever lived in it it I mean It makes the 60s look like a sandbox play.
29:49Yep. Yeah, they're they dead well, it's because tax involved and AI and Deepfakes and and just so much so many shenanigans are going on simultaneously It's just it's a such a bizarre. It's a great time for comedy so much shit Because it's almost like true things that are real. They're so funny. They write themselves. Yeah, it's true You can't make this stuff up. It's so nuts the whole thing is so nuts and the fact that these people are so Ideologically captured they can't recognize the danger of doing the things that they're doing in order to win and That you can't fix that stuff once you put it in motion and I just don't I don't know how this is gonna turn out But I'm I'm glue if this was a show I'd be like holy shit.
30:32What a great show? Like the writing on this show is fucking incredible. They're getting yeah cliffhanger. This for sure Yeah, the assassination attempt him going fight fight fight putting his fist. I was like what the fuck is this real This crazy. It was the whole thing's crazy and then not a press conference about the shooter. Yeah Not a press conference. It's like not a month later This episode is brought to you by Buffalo trace distillery actually have some Buffalo trace cigars here They just sent me one of the world's most award -winning distilleries that's been making whiskey the same way for more than 200 years made as a tribute to the rugged free spirited pioneers who blaze their own trail to new frontiers It embodies the perfectly untamed spirit of independence It defines what an award -winning bourbon should be aged nearly twice as long as competitors in new charred white oak barrels and bottled at 90 proof Buffalo trace is the perfect bourbon to be enjoyed in any way anywhere and the taste It's damn good.
31:41It's bold and sophisticated yet incredibly smooth Finishing long and deep. It's authentically American representing uncompromising quality for the rugged the powerful and the passionate tap the banner to learn more or visit Buffalo trace distillery dot com that's buffalo trace distillery dot com Distilled aged and bottled by Buffalo trace distillery 90 proof Franklin County can tucky Buffalo trace American family owned independent and perfectly untamed It's how do they do it that that nobody remembers it right they well the memory hold it yeah Memory hold that it's like it as if it never happened well There was so little reporting on how it happened how it could have happened Who the who the shooter was they get to the kids house and it's completely scrubbed It doesn't have any silverware in his home like someone was it and you know that it's found it takes them what a week and a half even to like Open it.
32:45Oh, we can't get into his phone. Yeah. Oh Yeah, well how about the stranger by you know my my son the 17 year old son get into your phone But they can't get a new Well also the fact that this kid someone from Outside the FBI's office in DC had been visiting On oh they they tracked the you know, well they have phoned They have a ad oh right, you know, so they can check their phone off that train you'll it on those so there was a phone that was going From outside of DC to this kid and multiple times So what what's going on this kid's training for quite a while for over a year it seems like he was Involved in like shooting training and preparing for it's like he was being there at least like 40 times they said I don't know how many times right was quite a few.
33:40Yeah, but the whole thing is very strange It's like how How is this not like a deep investigation that's on the front page of every newspaper where people trying to figure out Outrage from was this a government conspiracy to kill the presidential candidate. Yeah, what happened? Right Was it right you know go back to the Kennedy no go ahead I thought the moment he got shot and live and he was fight fight fight my It's over Yeah, he's gonna win this me too. He's gonna win that's it. Yeah, it happens fist like that is like And then next thing you know Kamala Harris has one good speech and everybody's cheering you like wow It's just completely flip flop all the talk shows everyone's with her a person who just a month prior Was being hidden because she would say so many dumb things and she would blame every time she had a talk openly with no script She would blunder and fuck things up Now all of a sudden she's the perfect candidate.
34:36Yeah, it's kind of wild it's Superwild, you know, they did have and disenfranchised All those voters who had voted for Biden. Yeah, you know talking about democracy right and then all of a sudden they have no say it No primary there's no one no one else gets to choose and They get the they use the FEC filing for Biden's Money so like she gets to access that war chest so the whole thing's crazy The and the fact that no one's freaking out about the dangers of this and the fact that this is the first time ever that someone who nobody voted for Nobody voted for in the primaries had zero delegates is now Being the person who is at the front there's a point of that polls.
35:25Yeah, I allegedly I always say with the polls like Says who here's the thing about polls who the fuck are you asking and who's who's talking to you? Yeah, the people that have the like the least amount to do the people that are willing to answer polls The people that when you call them up say do you have a few minutes of my time like well, you're sorry Do most people say get the fuck out of here and they hang up the phone the vast majority people don't answer polls. Yeah, so you have One point ahead of the people dumb enough to answer polls Everybody else. It's like we don't know and so that's why the gaslighting continues Well, let's put it this way though.
36:03They've done a very good job because they do have The Republicans back on their heels About it. Oh, yeah, and I didn't think it was gonna happen. I didn't think so either I thought well leading up to it I thought he's gonna steamroll Biden the administration It's a terrible job over the last three years the borders wide open everyone's freaking out There's two wars going on simultaneously that at least in the world war three at any moment everybody's freaking out I'm like when Trump was in office. There was no wars There was no one new wars. There was nothing new that he was doing that was putting people in jeopardy and then all of a sudden It was this fucking complete total turnaround Orchestrated by the media and it happened right in front of our eyes and now Kamala is this darling of everybody So like this is wild like the least popular vice president of all time is now one of the most popular presidential candidates of all time like that Incredible and You know, they're gonna What we're talking about right now.
37:03We're gonna sound like conspiracy theorists. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm used to that. Yeah I'm just getting used to it's super comfortable with it super comfortable with it one of Reagan's greatest phrases in my opinion is the nine most terrifying words. I'm from the government and I'm here to help him here to help It's like it's so true These people are just like any other person in any position of power They want to maintain power and they want to make as much money as possible It's in every corporation when corporations get in trouble from lying about their products. It's the same thing The same thing in every business.
37:44We got a risk management. Yeah, they show up at at the door and and uh You know, it's amazing how the the times today are so much like when Reagan was elected, you know, we had inflation You know the south we know we have 20 % interest rates that I remember that because I bought a house actually do it during that time there was a feeling of malaise in the country that it Carter even spoke of you know, we had hostages in our ran. I mean we have hostages Over there in Israel and the gods the strip that nobody's even speaking about how's how's that possible? Right. Where's the outrage on that? at and uh You know, it uh, it's so much like that time and Reagan came along and said, you know, we're going this way That we're not on nation -end decline Like we've been told that we are today and you know, America came back from that.
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38:44I still have Really great faith in the American people when it When it comes down where the rubber meets the road. I have a great faith in a certain percentage of the American people Yeah, I think there's a certain percentage of the American people who vote. Yeah, I hope so yeah I think there's a certain percentage of the American people that are living in a movie they they have No real understanding of all the mechanisms that are involved that make this world work And why it's working in the way it's working and what the dangers are of it They just they just there's so many people that are they only fed by the mainstream media Which is completely corporate controlled.
39:23Yeah, they don't know what's going on in a sound bite Yeah, that's all it. That's all it is soundbite and headlines. I've been an independent all my life really You know, I voted for Carter. I voted for Reagan twice. I voted for Ross Perot I voted for Clinton once You know, I voted for Bush once. I voted for Ross pro too. Yeah. I voted for I voted for Obama once And I the second the second lecture of that when I sat out because the words I just didn't have a choice but You know what I voted for Trump the first time because they went in there and it was Hillary or Trump or Hillary or Trump and I voted for Trump and voted for him again, but I've always believed like in the pendulum of of politics and culture and in the world about what is it that we need right now and in fact Republicans and Democrats need each other They keep each other from going too far One way or the other and you know our nation is based on compromised which winds up being kind of the best Way forward Not everybody gets what they want, but the important stuff it shakes out in the end.
40:35Yes, but That doesn't seem to be the way things are working right now Or maybe it maybe it is in the overall picture, but I just can't see it Well, I think what happened was I don't think in 2016 they ever anticipated that Trump was gonna win All the projections were that Hillary was gonna win by a landslide That was all the polls that was all the things he saw on television And then when Trump started winning on television You could see it in the look of the faces of the pundits of people that were on TV that were calling the The election they were baffled Couldn't believe it and then when it was over.
41:09There's that famous Uh, video of the lady with the sock hat and the glasses in the street on her knees go You see that like yeah, and then when it's announced Yeah, the glass ceiling still existed That had not been broke. Oh, it was crazy times and then what's really funny is right after that jim Brewer had a great joke about this that There was those women march those marches because you know, Trump had said that grabbed him by the pussy thing and But he's an anti -women so there's these women marches and jim Brewer goes isn't it funny? They knew what a woman was then yeah, which is crazy because that was only 2016 yeah 2016 there was no Trans women this way right that kind of conversation was Not on the table at all the me to move back all of that just completely gone Now the window and it in favor of what zero point 0 0 0 0 point Whatever of the population.
42:09I know it's nuts and it's also it's like now women sports are in peril Yeah, it's now you're having biological men with mental disease mental disorders competing as women saying that they're women women winning weightlifting events women winning cycling events The box you would compliment me really dangerous. I have nothing against trans people The box on trans in the drama department, you know, I was a drama mama You know right most of the drama department was gay at stuff it grew up in that way I used to Used to play golf with Caitlin You know back when it was Caitlin or Bruce really back when he was Bruce Just be us because sure what it was very there weren't many people around it Just you know, I love the guy and I when he came out like that I was really happy for him to tell you the truth because to have to like carry that around right with what you feel inside That's really important.
43:06Yeah, you know But that doesn't mean that the entire nation has to like Flip over and change to to accommodate right that yes, there could be Uh a mall for you and you know, in fact our system already accommodates everybody Yes, it does yeah, it does but I just don't like being Beat over the head and told what to think and what to feel and To pretend this and pretend that no no, it's terrible. It's terrible for everybody And it's just this very loud vocal minority that's very invested in pushing this agenda and everybody else is just Scratch their heads and going what the fuck and if you have a daughter that is to do some sort of a sport and there's trans athletes on that team Like Jesus Christ like this is why title dime was created in the first place like to give women an opportunity to compete with women Exactly, so you can't say I feel like a woman So I'm a woman and I'm gonna compete with women with all the male biological advantages Like we're you want to talk about science denying there's your science denying right there.
44:14You're denying biological science Yeah, a man just by his body mask can hit three times harder. Yeah, then a woman And that Olympic match. I mean she's the girl stopped after like 45 seconds See that's a different story that doesn't have a disease that male boxer Who what's allegedly male who's allegedly has x -y chromosomes? This is there's a complicated issue with that. This is like a genetic disorder that this person has where they have very high testosterone and allegedly have x -y chromosome They should do chromosome I mean this is one of things. Do you know what the enhanced games is? Uh, I think I know what you're getting at the enhanced games that they're putting together this new form of athletic competition.
45:00It's gonna be this enormous event where they're gonna let people take performance enhancing drugs But and so I asked them I had them on the podcast I said what are you gonna do about trans athletes? They said I think we're gonna go along chromosomes So if you have x -y chromosomes on no matter what you're competing with other people that have x -y chromosomes males people who grew went through male puberty. That's it end of discussion. Yeah, now socially I'll call you a woman. I'll call you whatever your name it you want to be called. I don't care at all But if you want to compete athletically, we're gonna pretend that the shape of the hips the density of the bones size of the lungs size of the heart the ability to react quicker all these different advantages that we know exist Mm -hmm that that's this is this is stupid right and this is now you're putting ideology instead of a head of facts And ahead of science and ahead of the the biological reality we know about the advantages that men have yeah Ideology it's like It's like don't look behind the curtain.
45:58Yes, it's like odds. Yeah, well Don't look over there. It's people that don't have religion is what it is And they have a new religion and that religion is this woke ideology. Yeah, that is they're they're acting that way the same way A religious zealot would act yeah, I get yeah Complete with the doctrine and everything that goes with it to spout and There is no argument There is no exchange of ideas right with exactly well They can't debate because if you debate about it then the facts Outweigh their ideology right you look at the biological facts of this stuff it outweighs the ideology and then you look at the Transitioning children.
46:40I mean you have you ever seen of these interviews where people go up to people and they say Do you think that a child of 12 years old is old enough to get a tattoo? No, no, no, no Do you think you know they start asking those? Do you think they're old enough to know their gender? Yes Yes, oh that oh that Yeah, okay puberty blockers are fine literally chemical castration drugs that were used on pedophiles in the past Those are fine. Yeah, those are fine to give to kids that are pulling the pair so yeah, yeah The whole thing is having no say about it. Yeah I think people in a way Do know their gender when they're young in a way maybe later they look back and realize that they were that way when you know They were either gay or the From you know a A place of hindsight in a way, but to to let someone who was You know under at least 18 really I mean even in 18 Didn't how much do we really know ourselves back then and then you can go back right from back very easily influenced very Yeah, and if they're taught by the people around them that they get positive reinforcement if they go in a particular direction People do that.
47:57I mean how many fucking Hollywood kid how many people in Hollywood have trans kids and how is that possible all of a sudden There's an epidemic of it. How is that possible? Yeah, how's it possible? Is it just the openness? It's always been there or is it that this is some sort of a fucking mind virus? And these people are being influenced by the positive reaction they get from saying that they're lbgtq2 plus AI Whatever the fuck it is now. It's like there's there's a social contagion going on and there's an aspect of that that's real Yeah, these are educated people. Yeah, we're talking about well, that's what's nuts, right?
48:32But educated people that Are not paying attention to this thing called gender dysphoria that has always existed How do you think we get back how do you think we get back to being able to have an exchange of ideas and And not just you don't try to put the other one in jail or try to dismiss them from society It sounds ridiculous, but I think the only way is to do what we're doing right now and to continue talking about it as reasonable people And have people listen to it and it shapes people's opinions and things they go. Yeah, they're making sense It is reasonable and to pretend that these psychological conditions There's a psychological condition called auto -gonnaphelia where men get sexually aroused Dressing up as women and but they're usually attracted to women So now these men are pretending that they're lesbians So they're calling themselves lesbians and they're getting on lesbian apps and lesbians are fucked now Because now these these men that are pretending to be lesbian that are occupying these lesbian apps They're a sconda.
49:32They're agenda and if you don't want to date them then your transphobic they'll attack you And this is like holy shit. Wow. These are the people that were perverts in the past and now all of a sudden they're a part of a protected class It's very strange. It's very strange and it's not good and it's not sustainable And I don't know when people are going to fully recognize the harm that they've done to all these children that they've had Masectomies and forced These fucking drugs on that kill their body's ability to produce testosterone and they try to say that they're reversible There's not there's no fucking reversing Damaging someone's puberty that's not true if you put puberty blockers and a boy that is not reversible is not true Not only is it not true There's a tremendous amount of evidence that shows that there's significant danger to taking those drugs There's blood clots and strokes and all sorts of other and then there's a fact that natural not natural Not of it's natural right even injecting them with estrogen like to so they could be their true self If you're your fucking true self Chemicals are not involved.
50:41It's not injecting chemicals are not involved in maintaining your true self That's nonsense. Yeah, it's a crazy sort of a leap a mental leap that you have to have to make that well We've got to get we've got to get back to a place I mean I look back at the 60s and you know, we've always been kind of a nation at least in the century of experiments You know that uh that go on is you know as a society as a whole you know You had the flower children to back then of and that whole Counterculture sure the right on the ground. Yeah, yeah, you know back then You knew who the leaders were It seems to be leaderless today You know you had either you had Abby Hoffman you had You know the black panthers we had Malcolm acts you had had you knew who Martin Luther King you had leaders of all these movements that You could have this dialogue with or this debate with uh and now it's Who who are the leaders of black lives matter who are the lead leaders and spokesman for uh This whole trans movement that's going on you know as some of it is It's It is political and but where are the leaders for that?
52:03Well, I think the leaders of the tech businesses. Yeah, I think that's what it is. I think the tech businesses have become a de facto form of government Yeah, yeah, and the only To me that the only motivation could of that could be control 100 % Confirc to control the bottom line, you know of you of the money, but then you know the more people that you get have kind of you know acquiesced control over the Then the more your bottom line is going to go on and then it's about power. Yeah And You know, I think we've been shown in this Getting back to what we were talking about before that that really is What is going on Uh, and what was going on in 2020 if you ask me with with the tech companies deciding to You know what we were going to see and what we were going to hear and It's it pretty much exposed Yeah, and dangerous.
53:06It is dangerous and it's um, we're not we're not prepared for that influence We we didn't know it was going to exist before there's no laws in place to keep it in check Which is why Google's allowed to curate the search results and and why they're allowed to censor conservative voices on social media and in fact The one of the things we found out like thank god for Elon Musk because if Elon Musk had not bought Twitter We would not have known the extent of the government's meddling into information distribution No, wouldn't have known that they were literally trying to get them to ban Legitimate news stories and they were successful with a hundred buy and laptop story But other legitimate conservative Perspectives and points of view and people that were legitimate doctors and scientists that had questions about the way we're handling the pandemic It also turns out to be true.
53:53Yeah, there's also a hundred percent turned out to be true And then when it gets there is no kind of okay, we were wrong about this and this you know They just kind of dismiss it. I got in a conversation with a guy. It was like well, you know what about you? These are not ideological issues that you're talking about That wouldn't it comes to medicine especially because everything gets turned into a political That's what's crazy that Vaccines and pharmaceutical drug companies became a democratic liberal perspective Supporting that like these corporations that have the biggest criminal fines in the history of medicine It's all of these companies these these pharmaceutical drug companies for Doing things that were illegal.
54:35They were fine billions of dollars And people still wholesale bought everything they said and if you disagreed You were some sort of a fringe conspiracy theorist who was a danger to everyone around you and right I know a little bit about that because I'm from when my twins were overdosed when they were 12 days old with happen In a hospital that turned their blood to the consistency of water And they were off the measurable scale in fact for coagulation of their blood for more than 48 hours and It was Scariest moment of our lives, but really about what I learned about We did not sue the hospital.
55:15It was a you know a human error in that But it was the drug company also which was got a liable and that the the 10 Milligram unit the 10 unit bottle that the kids were supposed to get was light blue and that the adult was dark blue and that was 10 ,000 so they got 10 ,000 three times. Oh my god. Yeah, it was it was horrific But after that, you know, it uh I Testified before congress in the oversight committee there You know about what had happened and as far as the drug company sits impossible to sue the drug companies Just about it's very difficult or to get them to to change anything. They're all Located for the most part in Illinois and they have that system wrapped up But uh, it's you know everybody at the FDA I'm gonna say everybody, but there's so many people at the FDA positions that are either uh former and poor employees of drug companies are future employees Yeah, because they know there's a golden basket waiting for them at the end of the journey So to get any kind of You know that's that's wrong in itself and to get Anything real done is is clouded, you know by self -interest.
56:39Yeah So um What happened you know during COVID was That's they still These boys that are you know drop in dead. Yeah, you know at 17 of heart attacks and uh It's People don't trust their government anymore Well, even that's out there same it was back in the late 70s before that election people didn't since watergate hadn't trusted their government What's bizarre to me is that even with all the evidence of these people dropping dead the people that are around the people dropping dead or in denial about it Because they all Advocated for a very specific thing and when that's very specific thing may be causing a bunch of deaths They don't want to take credit for it.
57:29They don't want to be in trouble for it. They don't want to be beholden to their To this idea that they had the pharmaceutical drug companies are telling you the truth and that this is the only way out of this And if you didn't do it we're all gonna die and everybody went into this with this terrible fear and because They stated that early now they're committed to it and they they're defending it because it's a part of Themselves their ideas are a part of themselves and so you're seeing like the This if you look at the Just if you look at what insurance companies are dealing with now with excess deaths That's some of the best data that we have this excess mortality right and the excess mortality is extraordinary at any other time in history If there was a thing that was rolled out where all the sudden everybody's taking it and all the sudden you have this amazing increase in excess deaths and cancers that are what they're calling turbo cancer and that if you listen to Peter McCullough he explains how this could be causing that that the mRNA vaccines could be causing these turbo cancers actually changes are Molecular structure down to you know the chromosomes and the DNA that that it's it's uh It's a man -made thing which is affecting your body in a bad way Yeah, and It's killing people that took it that were advocating for it that were tech people Those tech people that are dropping dead left and right and they're still they're still on this bandwagon And they're still letting the CDC saying you should vaccinate anyone under 12 like what the fuck are you talking about right?
59:03What are you talking about that's just insane wasn't it was never dangerous for kids my kids got it They were over it in a couple of days. It was nothing Yeah, I got the vaccine twice. I had to when we were uh When we were doing Reagan we were shooting the movie so it was uh Still at that point and it was required in order to work. Did you have any side effects? Um, no, but you know, I do note and I actually got COVID we were Of course it does stop the vaccination sick actually oh really? Oh no, we're working at a base, but if we had like 50 extras, you know, and it was just oh of course it did Just about everybody got it But I had I had a bad I was lucky to hit my it hit me in the guts instead of the lungs and I had I had a hundred and uh four temperature for a couple of nights, but uh You know, I was over it in a couple of weeks and then you know getting the vaccine I did have kind of a reaction to that like a little mini version But I've noticed that when I get a cold now it's Harder to get over Everything's a little bit harder to get over now.
1:00:11Yeah, and I don't think it's just me as you know A friend's you know, we we talk about it and the the same thing is going on that just Uh, and you know it coming from China and all that you know, what could have happened is Could have been in exchange a real exchange of how it had really happened uh and But what the process was of how it happened to make sure that it doesn't happen again or to During the research of the vaccine to to put that out where uh You could have helped there as well. There's no It just winds up being you know, everybody lines up on the side of ideology exactly. I mean, I wonder you know if If Uh, Trump does come into office.
1:01:02Are they going to say oh, I won't take Trump's vaccine again? Well, that's how it was That's the one that's the same as you was saying. I'm not going to take his vaccine when it comes out Then as soon as they got it get into office They the very same vaccine. They said yes, you should we should take our vaccine. Yeah, it's not Yeah, very bizarre That's one of the things that's so interesting because we have more access to information now than we've ever had In all of human history and yet people are more divided by ideology than they are by facts than any other time industry A lot of it has to do I think with cable news to people have You know separated themselves.
1:01:43I myself. I watch all of them You know on direct TV. There's channel 200 where you got like six boxes You're good. You're good watch all the news that it flip back and forth and it's like watching a different story right A completely different story. Yeah, where you go. It's somewhere in the middle there Is the real thing one of my favorite moments was enjoy read was comparing Biden getting COVID and to Trump getting shot Yeah, yeah, he got over COVID right over co you got over 2024 Cova, which is basically a fucking cough yeah and Reagan I mean, excuse me Trump got shot in the fucking head. Yeah, it only grazed his ear But that was just a miraculous turn of the head.
1:02:26Yeah, the exact right moment. Not a ball Which is not an actual actual or you know, maybe it kicks up dust up I'm just starting something new Literal photo of the bullet passing by his head. Yeah, you know, so but there were a lot of people that denied that he even got shot They were saying there's three that came very close to yes One who is a just an inch away from from that too. Yeah Man You know If his head had blown up There in front of everybody We were in a situation civil war. Yeah, yeah, he could have very very well been civil war. I'm afraid I'm afraid it could have been Yeah, there's those Trump people would have fucking loaded up their pick up.
1:03:07Do you think they would have done a more thorough investigation now? If it if he had no no because that's listen This is Lee Harvey Oswald all over again, but less complicated or actually more complicated right because this is a very young kid How did they get to him? We don't know anything about him. We don't know why he was willing to do this We don't know we also know he's a registered Republican, which is crazy Well, you know one could be swayed from that to or sure especially at 20. Yeah, you know like who fucking knows One is in they're gonna have to get you another Republican in there just you know, but uh Yeah, I've been reading this Unspoken I forgot in the author's name, but it was endorsed by rfk jr You know about the assassination of of his uncle, you know the president John Kennedy and it takes Every piece of information that is known and puts it in a book and tells a story from it and It was our government.
1:04:13I think that Came to that kill that killed Kennedy and You know through the CIA can you know the dark forces within within our government and if that can happen then How about today I'm it's of course. Yeah sure whose running things if you the only thing you can draw is uh Conclusion you can draw is it's it's it's got to be something like that only I can't I can't understand why the CIA would Want us out of Afghanistan that way or or you know why All the other stuff is going on, but I guess again that's for control Yeah, it's for control, but it's also so multi -layered and so hard to figure out what's going on I mean we know that they had mk ultra in the 1960s.
1:05:09They did my my control experiments on people. Yeah And the idea that they just stopped that is silly. Yeah, that's silly. They went further That's that's how we got all those other drugs that yeah turned up at parties right Well, it's part of it. There's a what was that just guy Norman Oler he wrote About drugs during the third Reich and about how they experimented with LSD on concentration camp Prisoners yeah, and all the stuff that they were giving Hitler like while he was in the middle and all the stuff they were getting the Nazis. They're giving the Nazis meth Yeah, they were all on meth. It was crystal meth.
1:05:47Yeah, uh that That's what they were so fanatical and going out there staying up for days and that was Essential to the blitzkrieg. Yes, you can't stop and take a nap over that. Yeah, three days on road like a trucker Yep, wild out of their fucking minds And he was in normal was explaining that they had different levels of Meth that they would give to the people at the front lines like the guys that ran the tanks had the most meth So they were just jacked out of their fucking mind. Yeah, storming through the night Yeah, and then the French would drink and wine They're just like hanging out drinking they were they got like a leader of wine a three quarters of a leader of wine a day As a ration so they're drunk in the streets and then the Nazis come through on meth Yeah, which is a way better drug for war Yeah, when right pass that Imagine a line like like nothing flat Fucking nuts really great nuts three days through Poland the whole thing is insane but that they Took that knowledge from the Nazis and they started applying it and then they started using some of those drugs and using These mk ultra experiments and the idea that they stopped that and they don't do that now Well, what happened with this kid?
1:06:56I want did they do an autopsy? Did they find there's any chemicals in this kid's body? We don't know we haven't heard a fucking peep. We have not heard a single press conference the first thing that I would have done But besides like try to figure out how the fuck this kid was on the roof for 30 minutes without anybody doing anything How he got a rifle there how he got a ladder there how the snipers didn't shoot him how they didn't go up there and and take him out before this happened Seagrass service was supposed to be in those windows. I mean they were had a you know A fantastic look at him.
1:07:25Yeah, but they were downstairs drinking coffee or whatever they how they were Not only that a lot of those people are department of Homeland Security. They weren't even secret service weren't even lined up and who runs the department of Homeland Security No, they work it's not because I would have want to know what that kid was on I Guarantee there was some sort of psychotropic medicine involved. There's something involved I do not think if you're gonna Let's let's assume that someone trained him told him how to do this. Let's assume this wasn't a young 20 -year -old kid with very sophisticated detonators and remote controls and all these different things that we know that he possessed had this rifle brought the rifle onto the roof The also why did he have iron sights that's that's baffling to me who was this who was this gun instructor?
1:08:17Uh, there was teaching there were a lot of federal officers over there went to training I'm not saying that any of them were like you know the ones they probably had no idea what he was gonna do Anybody in this country we have the second amendment anyone can go and learn how to shoot a gun. Yeah It's you know this course as you can take I've taken them you could even go and learn how to shoot guns exactly But you wind up having kind of a mentor with things like that. Yeah, there's just like this. Well, there's probably a fight box You know you're you're you wind up having somebody kind of becomes your mentor.
1:08:48Yes, you know, and that's how you Get kind of indoctrinated into right. Where's that guy? Where is that guy? Yeah, you know The kid was really smart. He won all the science fairs For what I understand so he was he was very adept at all that but it's to uh To get into the kid there's still some stuff supposedly that's encrypted that they can't touch Like you know, it sources over to Europe and or whatever what they're saying and I don't know what I'm talking about that because with that because it's only been inferred but What are they doing why are they not just inferred? Wait are they not still on it like a daily thing with like Uh nightline uh daily uh, yeah, it reports about it Why didn't they test his blood?
1:09:41Yeah, why didn't they tell us whether or not he was on any kind of medication Like where they ties to Iran or or or or to China or to Russia or to Venezuela but Where How is it just memory hold? Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy the whole thing's crazy And then there's like allegations of second gunman which is always the case with any kind of an assassination Yeah, of course the thing that would have been horrific if he if he had want if he had a successfully shot trump If he killed him and then they killed him That would have been it yeah, it would have no idea what happened And they were probably able to memory hold it all the exact same way they did it now And then they would have said the country has to heal and move on right And yeah, our long national and nightmare is over Like that you know, what if he what if the kid just been wounded Right, I don't think he would have made it to jail alive They weren't gonna move you know, they had a clear shot on that dude I just I'm just amazed that they let him get off those shots.
1:10:44That's just the craziest thing to me that they knew he was there I'm running across the roof we had all Trump is speaking. He had a fucking rangefinder. Yeah, like I use engulf Yeah, yeah, they're quite good. I use an archery. Yeah, they he wanted to know what the yardage was so he could hold for particular Height right and but I don't understand the iron sights thing the only thing that makes what are iron sights? Okay, so rifles either have a scope which is a magnification scope which is extremely accurate But you have to adjust it or they can have iron sights and iron sights. I like oh you have a pistol You have a pistol.
1:11:17Oh, yeah, between the two are exactly two four iron sights. Yes, he did I thought he did have a scope. He didn't I don't believe he did see if that's been proven because there's a photograph of the gun and the gun it looks Very clear from the photograph that it does not have a scope on it scope is You know, it's a large tube that sits on the top of the rifle and you you have to adjust that scope It takes a little doing to even attach that does it not I mean some can click in but I would imagine you really have to It's not that complicated You could do it and then you would need to go to a range and sight it in the problem with a scope would be That if things are getting jostled around and knocked around if you bang the scope on something it can get moved Just a fraction of a millimeter to the left or to the right and then your zero point at whatever he's got it zero That if it's a hundred yards or 150 yards The angle gets yeah, exactly the angle with the distance will get further away.
1:12:21Yes, so you have to probably redo it I've had personal experience with that. I was a deer hunt. I fell with a rifle and I fell going up a snowy slope and The rifle got banged and my scope was off. Well like six inches at a hundred yards. Yeah, so I could see how maybe But that was because my scope wasn't tightened somebody had not tightened it down properly I could see how maybe you would say iron sights because it's not that far of a shot Because I've practiced with the iron sights right now the iron sights That's not going to be it's one factor you can take out that is right I could have been a variable exactly with some competition shooters the old school guys they don't like red dots because they want to use iron sights Because it's so reliable if as long as you can line it up correctly As long as you have proper technique and you're accustomed to it.
1:13:10It's not going to move Go left or right whereas you can actually see Everything around you. Yes, even better than Then looking through this yeah, but if you're looking through a scope you get magnification. So you can put that cross here right on it and then At 150 yards with a magnification and a scope that's on that's a easy shot really easy. It's very easy Especially in a prone position like he was on top of a roof. Yeah, but there's so many questions How the fuck did they let him do that? How'd they let him get up there? How what kind of security breach is involved and how about the lady who was in charge of secret service?
1:13:44She didn't want to step down Like yeah, they're questioning her the whole thing is I mean she didn't even go to the site of even a week later She went to you know before Congress To explain some things and she hadn't even been to the site. Yeah It's the guy the guy the the head the head agent not being fired That yeah, it's like he wasn't available for comment because he's still part of the you know, he's still running the investigation This is the guy who's responsible for all this happening and he's the one that's running the investigation Are you out of your mind? Oh, things crazy It's crazy and it's it's it's gonna be a footnote in history that people are gonna be baffled by in the just like they're baffled by the JFJ Assignation well because he wasn't killed and his head didn't blow up in front you know in front of on national television It's it's uh Yeah, it's just that it's just a footnote.
1:14:42It's not like They got him missed yeah, like I could say I know got him. Well who knows what would have happened to the country? So there's the gun so I'm looking at that gun right now and that gun to me looks like it as iron sights This is why I say that you see the handle at the bottom you see the magazine so the handle is in the far that's the magazine Yeah, the further further one forward and the one behind it That's the handle and then you see above those are iron sights so there's no scope on it and less Also that is it's kind of it as far as regular sites go that's Those are a little bigger than the regular site ego on a right.
1:15:20It's an AR. It is an AR rifle So it maybe maybe that's a red dot Maybe it's a very miniature red dot I mean there are little bubble magazine, but it doesn't look like it it looks like And it's not a scope someone on the picture said that the iron sights are set up at a 90 degree angle so like It could be shot from prone to like sideways There's amazing Well, it's a really hard to say I mean you had the Yeah, the cops like carrying the rifle down the hallways right everybody the whole public could see it right the murder weapon right and You know, this is what Americans have have gotten used to They've gotten used to the idea that We're not allowed to see information That we have a right to see right as a public the country this country is supposedly we're the boss the people are and we deserve Information so that we can make a decision about it Yeah, or we can have the people that we've elected make a decision about it by giving them the power to do so Given to them by us right and now that we get Information is either distorted or it's fake or it's just withheld yeah, and you know Withheld and like that's just the way things are people have gotten used to that idea yeah And that's how that's how we lose our country in Our Our republic right is that's how we lose it yeah See google whether or not there's a definitive answer so whether or not he had iron science Nothing that's so crazy that we don't know I don't know where to look either but I hadn't find any updates did Just google this did the trump shooter have a scope on his rifle Did Thomas Crookes rifle have a scope and what does it say there's no I mean Nothing I would have found the answer didn't wait from people that always cop Trait you know in the In the coverage after it was kind of at least at first portrayed as Like a rifle with a scope yeah a couple of places.
1:17:40I thought it did have a scope but It's possible that is a very small adventure scope, but like a red dot like on a pistol Generally doesn't have magnification. It's just just the dot What was he doing with the here's another question Those explosive devices I think which were in the car yeah, what were they for right and how did he learn how to do that Like where do you when you get those when you're 20 years old? You know like I said he won science fairs. I think he was you know quite adept at At getting that info Well, wouldn't we know that this kid had google search how to use explosive devices and figured out how to get the detonators Yeah, figured out how to wire it how he learned we don't know anything sure we don't know anything Or bomb and all that's that's so even Remember they for right what would he had to have an intent right for that right And You can figure it out even though he's he's not here You could figure out an intent You know certainly wouldn't get away otherwise.
1:18:43He would have had him on him right do you think he thought he was gonna survive I mean was it a suicide run for this kid. That's why I want to know what drugs was beyond We don't have any toxicology report on this kid Right, which is crazy. That is crazy. They have it for every school shooter. Yeah the government the people Are entitled to go yeah toxicology report I mean they Jim Belushi died right and they told everybody his toxicology report right within you know three weeks for it's because he died of it Right, yeah, but still I'm still right. I'm talking about the right to privacy versus Versus the public's right to know.
1:19:23Yeah, well in this particular Situation the right to know is imperative. Yeah, I give to is there something that was given to this kid that made him do something that insane Because there are things that they can give you that will completely distort your understanding of reality and Which is why they gave the Nazis meth? Yeah, you know This is the the whole reason for it because you would do wild shit when you're hopped up on amphedymies Yeah, you can give somebody clonipen and start this anxiety and you know, you don't know whether you're You could make one decision one minute and angst about it the next right and be very influenced right there's all But also the idea that we know all the psychotope tropic drugs that the government is experimenting on that's ridiculous too Well, I guarantee you experiment with them a couple of Will would you take all of the since 1990 of you?
1:20:20That's they got some stuff coming out now right here Well, you got off the cocaine trade the exact right time, you know, because now it's you know, it's what it rolls in the dice with you know fettinol but um it's it's uh I You know, it hasn't always been like this leave you the way you're You and I are talking and it's been a very very long time since it seems at common sense uh prevailed in the end in this country and uh I so want it back uh for Not just I'm not even talking about having everything go the way I wanted to go I get it's To get back to a time when Whoever was in the White House and who and At least we were a people that could at least agree 70 % of the time And I think we are a people that agree 70 % of the time as a whole but That's impossible now right we're being manipulated too much and most people are just not savvy enough to understand the effect of this manipulation You know, which is uh, I think that's a big factor.
1:21:49We're experiencing There's just a lot of people that aren't even aware of all the things that we're talking about There's a lot of people out there think oh Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone lone gunman crazy guy well I thought that for a very long time myself really yeah, you know after You know after about 12 15 years, you know, it's starting to sound like conspiracy theories to me and stuff and then I completely switched over again Because the because of evidence really that's coming out and I Uh, I really want to see the rest of the the files and why are they Not releasing the files. I know Trump released a bunch of them, but I guess there's people living Yeah, that well There's also the complete erosion of faith in the intelligence agencies if if it turns out that the CIA did kill JFK or that they were involved in killing of JFK and it could be proven Which is what Tucker Carlson's been saying if that is the truth that would be I mean we'd throw the whole country into a tailspin We would know what the fuck to do because if you really found out that in 1963 They organized an assassination on the president pulled it off killed them lied to the public Publish as bullshit warm warm commission report tried to pass off this nonsense of the magic bullet all that stuff all that stuff John Foster dollars to who ran the CIA you know they had been They just pulled off one A month before with DM in South Vietnam where the you know he was assassinated And Kennedy was shot and then the the Warren port John he was the head of the CIA was the head of the of the uh, yeah, yeah, I don't tell us of the I said John Foster Alan Dallas was it was the head of Of the Warren commission, which is an odds because Kennedy acquired him.
1:23:42Yeah, which has he fired him because That he was doing things behind his back and so then that guy becomes the head of the Warren commission report And then Gerald Ford Also on the warm commission report then takes over when Nixon gets kicked out office right and then you find out through I mean Tucker Carlson explained to us that the whole Nixon thing was essentially An FBI CIA op to get Nixon out of office and Nixon was apparently like very interested in finding out who had shot JFK Yeah, and also the Vietnam war that was going on the CIA was very that fact that's kind of where it started along with the Bay of pigs Uh, which Kennedy inherited that was operation going on but the Cuban Missile Crisis was another one So Kennedy having actually see a secret dialogue with Khrushchev that was going on that I guess today They would call collusion.
1:24:35I don't know But uh, they were making great progress in that but Vietnam he had he had gotten The Russians to agree to make Laos a neutral country in that and they were We had American GIs you know even before it was an actual war which it never was but uh getting killed over there and Kennedy was wanting to Do the same thing with Vietnam have it be a neutral country and was making progress with Khrushchev In a way towards that but the CIA's involvement over there They you know the open they openly and uh were the joint chiefs and in in meetings Kennedy had lost control of of his of the joint chiefs and and and Decisions that were being made there They were Totally going against him and I If yeah, I believe too that it was the CIA that took it out because of their agenda and uh the mood that was in the country It's crazy the whole thing's crazy.
1:25:51It's crazy to look back on it and think about it and even the fact that we know Now for a fact that the Gulf of Tonkin incident was a false flag. Yeah, which is what got us in the Vietnam in the first place And that no one went to jail for that. Yeah, I went when Johnson came in I don't think Johnson had was involved in the assassination of Kennedy But when Johnson did come in you know he had a different kind of uh Bend on that and said you guys will get your war right after You know the election is what he told the joint chiefs because they really wanted it And uh, you know low and behold after he was elected then Gulf of Tonkin incident happens.
1:26:31Yeah, where you go where you go. Yeah, it's wild and then we're dealing with a more sophisticated Much better concealed version of that apparatus right now. Yes. That's what that's where That's what this book really got me to thinking okay, all this was going on then How much more sophisticated is it now right? And especially after 9 -11 when we just handed them the keys To be able yeah, the CIA was created by Truman They haven't just been around it was created by Truman and they were supposed to be Do you act as you know foreign agents in other countries and they were basically given You know like James Bond license to kill and do it also the license to lie before Congress They were given to keep things secret as they could and Truman came to like done even a year after you'd created it Came to regret it at that he'd even created that that office because of it turns into a government within a government That is you know deciding that has its fingers in every pie especially you know the military yeah, and um Of dangerous place can any himself was you know Uh wanted to get rid of the CIA in fact and um, so Later after 9 -11 we just really gave them the keys to the kingdom because they were you know You're allowed in the homeland to do the same thing and then the Patriot Act and NDA all those different things that gave them the ability to spy on people And then what we found from Edward Snowden about the NSA and all of it It's just wild stuff man and most people aren't even aware of it That's really crazy, you know go to what we were told about With a rack before we went in there and the weapons of mass destruction and right and the like you know, which everybody believed Yeah no matter what side you were on right So uh, it's pretty crazy.
1:28:36Yeah, it's literally what Truman was warning everybody out about when he left office. Yeah That famous speech about the military industrial well that was Eisenhower. I'm sorry Eisenhower came in and gave and gave that same speech and had a meeting with Kennedy about the Beware the military industrial established especially Eisenhower because he was such a respected person So for him to say that and it but it was one of those things that you say it on television People hear it and then you never saw it again Because it wasn't the time where there was the internet it wasn't there was no one watching that clip on YouTube saying what the fuck Is he talking about exactly yeah well Kennedys Speech at the American University which was about peace and and about this you know the Soviet Union in the and United States You know learning to Live together in fact He the test band treaty uh came out of that which was hardly covered in the news actually back then Because uh everybody was so pro war.
1:29:35I mean I grew up. We were getting under our Arts school desk. Yep. Like at least it once every two weeks in case of a nuclear war It was gonna happen I lived within the circle of zoning used to there that the you know the Cubans were gonna send Send the missiles. I got kept home from school. It was happening. We the yeah, we lived with that until you know uh Reagan the Pope and like Valenza along with Margaret Thatcher ended the end of the Cold War yeah and uh You know it's But I digress I remember those days I remember those days in school where they would make you do drills And then they would play videos showing you how to get under your desk Yeah, that's gonna protect you from a fucking nuclear bomb.
1:30:22Yeah a desk Yeah, it's uh We were terrified like we grew up with an existential fear of a nuclear war with Russia Yeah, and it was it was It was real it was there was about a 90 % chance that it was going to happen In the especially during the 60s and then again with uh during the Carter administration and and into uh Into Reagan because We'd we'd appease them we'd given him away given away so much and they were building their military up and it was It really was a like a chess game, but there was a very there was a hawk that pro war that us You know survive ability after a Nuclear attack was a big topic sure.
1:31:17That's not just range love. Yeah like Curtis LeMay You know one of the joint Chiefs you know, who was a big uh abril during During World War II and ran the Pacific campaign basically, but you know he was saying well, you know We could survive this is you know 50 million people yes would be killed, but We will survive Survive to what right was the mentality in that crazy. That's how much they wanted to defeat communism right Could it it's literally a comedy in dr. Strangelove him explaining that yes, it's literally a comedy because people are like what yeah Yeah, yeah, I encourage anybody to watch a nation mandarin.
1:32:00Yeah It's crazy. They were like well, we might lose 50 million people will be okay. We'll still have a hundred yeah We might lose out third of the country because back then it was probably that was probably the population right it's probably a hundred Uh, it was about 150 million back then. Yeah, so a third third we gone. I think yeah Yeah, it's strange. It's such a great movie to still watch yeah, you know, they they had the tunnels they had um built ahead of time yeah and I think it was like Eight females to every uh to one male So we could get it in the mid -babies Repopper you're very popular right very quickly.
1:32:41What the fuck Or how about no war guys? How about that? Is that possible? Yeah possible just fucking make friends with their real Jesus Christ. Can't we all get along it's big ass world? Yeah Is there a way to do this without killing hundreds of millions of people you fucking it is? Yeah, Rodney King actually he was right Can't we all just get along? Yeah, but that's the first thing it comes up in my mind these days. Yeah Can't we all just get along? Yeah, yeah And then that's Rodney King voice a reason Yeah, yeah, voice a reason and Ronald Reagan Well, yeah, the Ronald Reagan if you listen to his speeches today he's incredibly reasonable I mean we were told like I grew up in a very liberal household and Reagan was the bad guy Like everybody hated Reagan trickle down economics.
1:33:29It's bad for the country. It's a bunch of greedy people Hunger yeah, let them control the kind you listen to him talk now You know one of the great speeches he gave in front of the UN It Really got all the crazy UFO conspiracy theories Those those guys went nuts because he said how quickly we would put aside our differences if we were face from an alien threat from outside this world It's great perspective because it's so true. It's so true. We come together like that Yeah, and we should be a community on on a planet and it is possible And an alternative universe with with different circumstances that we could have evolved into a community And it's possible I think in the future if if Big tech and these ideologies don't get a hold of us so we can communicate as individuals and realize that most of our differences are bullshit and most of what's going on is the battle of control of resources and if instead Human beings had the ability to communicate with each other and have real true access to information and know exactly what's going on And be able to relay what their concerns and needs are most people just want to be happy instead of keeping secrets Yes, you know, it's the it's the keeping a secrets, you know from them.
1:34:42It's us and them. I mean Kennedy himself was he was He wanted To for the Russians to Soviets To join our space program and do a joint venture to send a man to the moon That's where he'd come to with this was during the the test band Treaty because you know, it's the rocket secrets and all the rest of that stuff Imagine putting their minds at our minds together. Yeah, and Doing this is a joint venture There have to be relinquishing of secrets because it's military. That's why of course it All they wouldn't allow that to happen right, but once you start doing that and and having that shared A technology without keeping secrets from each other that's That's where people and nations do come together because We don't mistrust each other because we're armed we're armed because we mistrust each other right right And that's what Reagan said to Gorbachev in Vienna which got the conversation going yeah and Um Well now there's the same conversations going on right now with AI Because AI weaponry and the ability to have weapons that don't rely at all on human Human interaction.
1:36:14Yeah, no no people making decisions or pressing buttons Completely powered by AI. Yeah, if that happens This is a very very dangerous situation. Again, it's gonna happen. Yeah, no No ethics. Yeah, and this mad race is again. This is the height of tech right because you have tech people that are Communicating about things to Congress where the people that are asking the questions really have no understanding of what these guys are doing or what what's really possible and what's capable and yeah, there's There's there's problems because they lose information like information gets stolen and they're dealing with that right now Well, they think that China has access to the the top level AI that we're producing right now Right, there's a real concern about those where the where do those attacks really come from sometimes you even you know Concerned about that is it Korea is China or whatever right because you can you can mask all that but yeah AI is It does scare me but then you know it's called progress and there is no going back from progress.
1:37:21No, we just got to keep up Yeah, we really got to keep up now. How do you keep up with that though? That's the question everything having so much faster than it that But they had a little they had a kind of a running start with the nuclear nuclear nuclear bombs the you know and the that because it took a while to develop over time and now things come along so quickly and You know the more we know the more we can More we can know you know it's Scary world So is the reluctance that people have to Allow like the the the resistance against this Reagan film do you think it's as the resistance about Conservatism in general or is it the idea that you're going to change people's perceptions about history Because there's a lot of people again that have this very peripheral low information view of who Reagan was And so they want to have this negative spin on Reagan in history because he's a conservative.
1:38:28I think you know Reagan was a great president and I think it gets perceived It compared to Trump You know because there are comparisons that Trump and the things that If you get down to policy There's you know, there's a really good comparison to Trump and Maybe they see this is influencing an election by You know by that comparison or whatever but You know the free society here. It's about ideas. We're able to express and we're able to like Make up your own mind about it rather than deciding for people right about what it was and The Reagan movie is it's not about I ideology at all. I mean Reagan was a Democrat for 40 years until the last 40 years of his life Or 35 he was a Republican and uh It's about the Cold War and about His fight against come come in as I mean You know, we won the Cold War under Reagan and it was uh Before that appeasement had been practiced in this Country Jimmy Carter god bless him.
1:39:46You know, uh, he did really well with the Egyptians and Israel and in making peace in the Middle East Great about that. He wasn't so great with the the Iran hostage thing You remember the the FOIL disastrous Rescue attempt you know back then it seemed like Everything failed and uh, but with the Soviets he'd appeased it like You know gave away the B1 bomber. He gave away A lot of things without getting anything in return from the Soviets as far as we're Ducing the threat of war and they took that of course as weakness and started to really build up their military to and their missile Strength to unprecedented into level Yeah, Americans were There's a lot about American that it's kind of sweet in a way And that you know the Kuhn Bayyat thing, you know, why can't all when can't we be friends and just don't yeah You know that humanity have it that's the good -hearted Fantastic thing about America, but that's not the way the world works.
1:41:01We we were all a product of the way that we grew up We basically grown up in this country with relative safety and we have you know this a nation that has Uh Had laws that you know form of law and you do things the right way in the wrong way at which you consider but you know Can you imagine what it was like for Saddam to grow up in Iraq or Our Chi or our Putin right in the way they grew up that makes them the way they are in the Russians people had grown up the same way so It you start to get a sense of The how The rest of the world doesn't operate on the same rules that we are right they actually have a more realistic way of looking at things the way man has Actually been from the tribal stage on you know You got the water and we want the water right we don't want to share it we want it hours Because you'll piss in it and yeah, it'll destroy it.
1:42:04So we want it for ourselves and but uh Reagan came along and You know he had He had the idea to bankrupt them to make them spend your star wars He came out with Star Wars. He really got that name from the movie the whole Star Wars thing Which is now the patriot defense system you know over in Israel it didn't exist at that time it was decades away from it But he made the Russians think at least 10 % that it might be real Reagan even offered to share it with him It you know in exchange for let's take our missiles down to zero and You know I got mad at him in in Iceland when I think he thought he was acting like an old codger because they came up and said we're offering you this You know half the missiles or this or that and he said no He would because they wanted us to get rid of Star Wars which didn't exist I said well, you know you have to get rid of Star Wars And if we've done that the Soviets would have just gone on their merry way and Been doing what they would have had been doing but Reagan said no and The Soviet Union came top -line down, but it was it was great progress that he made and it took a cold warrior Hard -assed cold warrior To be able to negotiate with them And that's what we don't have today right Yeah, did you how much research did you have to do on Reagan before you did this film did you Did you do a deep dive?
1:43:52Yeah, well for one thing I lived through it I remember every single thing because even back then I was I was a big news walk even though well you had three channels three Three news channels and and also What I what I was offered the part I he was my favorite president, okay, and I Didn't say yes, but I didn't say no. He's like Muhammad Ali he's Known you know all over the world People know what he looks like sounds like and the like and I didn't want to do an impression personation like Saturday night live Because when I play a real person I want to play it from their point of view And sometimes that mean that that means words and all you know What are not just like what you did, but what are your insecurities?
1:44:42What are your What do you really care about how did had you feel when you got jilted did you know or Whatever that make us up who we are in the end yet, and it took me a long time to to say yes, but I went to I got invited to the Reagan ranch Which was the western White House back then and When he when Reagan died some friends bought it and left it exactly as it is he and Nancy's closer in the closet Whoa, yeah, he expect them to come back. They didn't change a thing and The only guy that was up there was John Bartlett who was Reagan's secret service guy rode with road horses with every day So but it got five miles of the worst road in California And get to the top of the mountain and come through the gate and I could feel him I could just feel him in every square inch of that place You know and it could feel he was a humble guy His his library with every book is that a big bookcase with every book going back to like nine years old the printer of Udel is there and and And they had a king size bed But it was two single beds zip tied together Huh the house is 1100 square feet, you know maybe two rooms of this and very simple and You know, it's the western White House All the you know the appliances are GE Because he he was a spokesman for GE back then he bought that place after he was governor But either he didn't have much money or he was really cheap but But boy, but it lives him.
1:46:27Yeah, he knew how to live simply was it you know was this person and I felt I felt him And then you know in the research he was an actor and He had a sunny we both have sunny dispositions to I think naturally and But I I don't think One of the things about Reagan is I don't think he ever got to where he wanted to get as an actor I think was one of the disappointments for him and You know his career was going at the towards at the end Uh, when he married Jane Wyman who was you know Who wanted a cat to be a ward like the next year and I think his self -esteem was at was Actually pretty low at that point because he was looking for a purpose in his life that he never found Till he got the uh He uh ran for and was elected vice president of the screen actress guilt And then president of the screen actors guild and that's not a job that anybody It was an actor you aspire to be right right, but it's like when God Shots a door he opens a window somewhere and this was his entry into politics And you know that's where that road started and uh At the time that he was that he was President The Soviet Union they found the files after they fell by the way in the Soviet Union They were trying to infiltrate the media of course in into movies and through the unions To for control of that and that was his in earnest uh I mean there were fist fights in union halls over it that he was that he was involved in And uh He did a lot of great with reason we actors have great health insurance is because Ronald Reagan by the way Yeah, no kidding.
1:48:27He was a in fact that happened That happened in I think it's 60 or 61 and he wasn't even president of the screen actress guild then He had been uh, I think like six years later. It's it termed run out But he came back and got that ramped because that was the right thing to do that was winning was a Democrat Wow, yeah, he got us I mean we have the best health insurance Of Any union I can think of and that was because of Ronald Reagan That's wild yeah The the whole film industry is in deep trouble with AI That that's gonna be a real problem Mm -hmm. That's gonna do some major jobs Or it could be a future source of revenue for my kids and grandkids and After that Well, they want Dennis Gweide to do a movie they just Oh, that's true.
1:49:27That is true. Well, didn't Bruce Willis sign off on something like that I think he signed off on allowing them to use it because Bruce obviously yes that horrible condition aphasia Yeah, and he can't act anymore Yeah, I think he signed off on the digital rights for something some Limited aspect of that. Mm -hmm. I was uh cash was What is the name of that the boy band thing that's a dirty dirty uh It's it's a documentary about the the guy Peter something is that that started the boy bands Uh, little in sync and uh, uh, uh, uh, they had a documentary on him No, Bruce Willis didn't sell s like this dude deep fake company.
1:50:12That's a deep face. By Initial reports so what did he do? He was uh, they did something like that but like the company didn't own his likeness or anything He did a commercial or something with it. Oh, so he only signed off on this one thing. Yeah. Oh, so they're saying that he signed up Sure, yeah, interesting. Well anyway, this documentary they take this guy and they take old footage of him and They put other words in his mouth talking to the camera That you know and you believe it. I mean it seamless right you can't So Yeah, it is scary in that way. It's also could me for great things, you know as well begins you know we can Before computing ability yet, you know that would take years and years You know to take a couple of minutes or if you're making a movie and you want to you can go out in an empty stadium And just created a crowd that doesn't look like cut out pictures.
1:51:13Yeah, which was you know I think of course it takes away extras You know ability to earn it during earn a living But it also means that you can make it like a four billion dollar movie instead of a forty billion dollar movie You know and get smaller movies and more people have access to making movies. That's true, you know That's one way of looking at it. So it's also it might eliminate actors That's possible to that would be such a bad idea That's like The stab is like I can play golf and somebody else comes to the set digitally. Okay, do you think that Do you think that Expressing your conservative viewpoints and doing this film on Reagan?
1:52:01Do you think this ultimately has a potential to hurt your career? It'll care anymore You know, what's it? Time that I was kind of concerned to kind of like speak my mind or speak up but in this really in the last couple of years that I feel it's really important that we we do all of us speak up in this election everybody's got to choose the side and we have to in order to have this exchange of of ideas and dialogue we have to speak up and so Like I said they they what I was doing Reagan they There was a story that was that came out that I was taking Money from the CDC $400 ,000 you know the Trump administration had arranged so I could do a commercial on For the vaccine that was coming out None of which was true, but you know, it's like my son even called me like freaking out You know because they were just like I was gonna get canceled over this stuff because I was taking I guess taxpayer money from CDC, you know Making money off this None of it was true where to come from did they find I really have I really have no idea and It's something that circulated in social media.
1:53:34So I really don't know but that and I remember when Trump Would COVID first started I think I did a I think it was political that I did a phone conversation with because I was involved with this podcast company that you know we were that we were promoting and And it was you know just happened to be a COVID and the guy asked me what what I thought about the way Trump was handling handling the COVID and I said well at least he's there every day, you know He's there every day trying to do something and I Think when it comes to things like this we need to get behind our president as a whole You know to come together to fight this thing just like you know Just like Franklin Roosevelt getting behind you know during World War at the start of World War II in order to Well anyway, that became that I was a you know right wing Trump stirred and that you know Supposedly in danger of getting canceled over that and And then I also gave a speech about Reagan to the group in Florida after I we'd made the movie and I Think there were two people that were January 6th people just happened to be there and By association, you know that was gonna be my agents called me like freaking out over over That like it was gonna be canceled.
1:55:12It's like being told you you're just be quiet and let things go by you know and No No, I Just can't I'm not a very good rule follower to begin with, you know That's one of those faults I've had but good for you. Yeah, but I think that kind of makes you a good actor too Well, I just it's a rebellious nature. Yeah, well, maybe that's debatable, but it's There's a lot of a rebellious people. I know a really bad actress but Too Jay yeah, there's a lot of that yeah, I just I don't know I just I think we all have kind of an Obligation you want to call it or a duty or whatever were mayor were citizens of America were citizens of the United States We the country is ours.
1:56:10It's the people of the United States who were supposed to run things And so we have to speak out I hated when actors spoke out about politics. I remember the days like Richard Dreyfus or you know Whoever would you know talk shows and so always just sounded like so stupid because Of course they didn't know anything, but So what little I know I do have to speak out about and I'm sorry Richard First saying that about you, but He's very vocal now. Yeah, he always has been and but um You know, I just if they have the right to if go on TV and talk about how Who's ever seen several actors go on there and talk about how Biden is like I saw him He was in great shape, and why no yeah, but I have the right to go on and Yeah, they talk about that I'm voting for Trump because you know People might call him an asshole, but he's my asshole Yeah, well, we don't have the best choices today You know, it's uh, and it's interesting that we put so much weight on famous people We put so much weight on their opinion and perspective some things We want a guy like George Clooney to be out there endorsing Kamala Harris and talking about the threat to democracy that is Donald Trump and all that right Look at he does.
1:57:38It's a well in the movies You notice Tom Hanks has been very silent. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, and just you know blight. I don't blame him, you know uh, and uh You know It's uh, yeah, we do I also think that presidents are reflection of Who we are as a people and what our culture has become You know It's You know, you can go back like Reagan reflected his time say he probably couldn't He probably he probably couldn't get elected today because it Uh Come off like camping, you know, they're just kind of solid, but you know a long comes Trump Trump swears, you know, it's it's okay, you know Over time to say Shit fuck piss whatever you want on on on TV, you know before that with cable news and so uh You know now you can say it, but it took somebody like Trump to actually say it yeah He was really the first one that opened up that door.
1:58:47Yeah, he was speech that he gave about how you deal with China You don't say we're gonna attack you 20 % and then you say listen mother fuckers. Yeah, and everybody's like whoa I loved it. I was Plain speaking just like you said before like an actual human being. Yeah, because that's how actual human beings talk about Yeah, this is what the emotions it brings up in you. Yeah, that's what you feel I mean I guess Obama was the one first one to really truly use social media Yeah, you know and in a way because you understood it I had started Trump. I mean he was tweeting Right, you know, it's probably Why the polls didn't really reflect what was going on because people just reading his tweets right Well the treats are so ridiculous.
1:59:36He just he can't help himself. Yeah, he's got to insult people and go after people and like that's how Yeah, he made his career. I mean that was him yeah In the public with Rosie O'Donnell. Yeah, which is yeah, I remember in that feud that got him that was like so ridiculous about that Lady alone, you know, I do cringe sometimes it's stuff But I know where he is at the bottom of it that he really does care about the American people and he really loves this country and he's really smart really smart and He knows how to deal with foreign policy wise Which is a huge thing with me because it It could it has an effect on everything and also culture our economy that you know Just the way we feel inside yeah, and You know, I think he's so much he's he's best for that You know, I just hope he I'd like to see a focus more on the issues.
2:00:39Yes, it'd be very disciplined about doing that because everybody goes off that They Love that yeah He chance they can make it personal. They love that. I also think that he gets sucked into some things that I think are traps I think one of the traps that's been set least recently is the use of Computer -generated imagery with a calmer Harris's campaign. I think he got sucked into a trap Because he how is that because he made a post about how the crowds That were at the airport to need her were fake right that it was CGI right and a lot of people thought that they were CGI And there was a lot of people tweeting about it that it was CGI And I was looking at I was like this is interesting because it's so obvious Why would they do that well the one of the ways they would do that is to put out fake images or put out the idea that they were fake images So that he makes this pose by darn it he bites on it Yeah, and then they go actually There's video and they can go back and really Sceniel and the crowd would all that prove that it was exactly because they're so used to like Biden doing a rally and you never see the size of the crowd And you can feel that there's nobody there and Yeah, there's a tepid applause.
2:01:59You know you hear also individual hands Fire people to go to those things. Yeah, it's not difficult to hire a crowd You can get a crowd to go to a comedy show if you wanted to yeah, you can get a crowd to do almost And you I mean also they did this very wise thing that the Harris campaign would do it have famous singers They'd have famous singers and entertainers Perform there and then she would be there as well. So people would be especially a free concert Exactly not hard to get not hard to do especially of a bigger but environment You want to get 10 ,000 people to go to a place nothing like and granted you know what it did energize Oh the Democrats uh When Joe stepped down.
2:02:42Oh, yeah, because there was They knew they were fucked if you stayed in it and knew it every time we talked it was getting his array of hope and somebody young And so all the all the people that you know they don't want they got volunteers and they You know, they're going all in. Mm -hmm. Yeah supposedly unless they Really Episcarne the Republic at agenda, which it seems like she's trying to do You know, that's what we you know Clinton did that actually in 94. He was going to be a lame duck president. He was going down and He his response was in the state of union is uh Address he said the age of welfare is over And he basically Took over the Republican agenda and we had like six years of just incredible Uh If the economy was it was amazing It you know, it was a force and There's you know she started with Uh, Kamala now is you know take it over the whole No tax on tips.
2:03:50Yeah try to take that over Trying to say that she's Never was the borders are and that from day one she's going to do something about it when she I think there's like What four or five months left in the administration right yeah Uh, you know, once you do about something about it. Also the denying she was the borders are when there's Hundreds of people talking on television calling her the borders are. Oh, yeah, it's nuts. Yeah, that's the Creations you're by himself. Yeah said border Zar yeah, they said it on CNN and then CNN later saying she was never the borders are. Yeah. Oh, she wasn't Yeah, well, why'd you say it back then you guys are misinformation?
2:04:29Yeah So or they she didn't go to the border she went to the border of Nicaragua and then in the The a border in country or whatever you know talking about the root cause and all that stuff wealth. Yeah root cause It's well, it seems very coordinated doesn't it the border thing yeah that that that one I really want to know like what are they trying to do? What's the end goal here? I mean it seemed the obvious thing would be for The old idea that that that's for voters that people coming into this country are naturally Democrats, but that's not really true You know, I have so many Latino friends and the people that came here The right way They can't stand what's going on because they they really can't and they have a tendency to really kind of get families and church It's tough to be you know become conservative and believe in the American dream and That's so that's not true.
2:05:30I mean the other only other thing would be the power. I guess and you create Kind of you have definitely have less Republican votes. I guess they think with that and you create chaos and you Which is kind of another kind of like Kind of Soviet tactic that they you know if you want to foment revolution. That's what you do create chaos Yeah, so You know if that's really get into a conspiracy theory for that But I just I don't see the sense of it and then I have people like my housekeeper Josie You know who was over here illegally for so long in her life but then Finally I said we you know In fact when Trump was going to get elected in 2016 she was like really really afraid and I said You know what is is We have to do this the right way.
2:06:29I was gonna You're gonna apply for citizenship, and I'm gonna sponsor you and So we started the process then you know got her green card and everything to do it and she's uh She went through her citizenship test With me what she was doing. She's failed twice But I went through the citizenship test whether she got everything perfect But she goes over there. She gets treated like Like dirt, you know really Uh, which is crazy that people try to do it the right way. Get you know she gets treated like she you know She's doing something wrong or whatever and um, I know she's she can pass it because I went through the whole thing with her randomly And yet if you come into this country illegally they're gonna pay for your hotel They're gonna give me a thousand dollars to spend they're gonna get it.
2:07:22I was saying fleet. Well, what state do you want to go to yeah, and uh, you know We don't get those rights. Well, it's just insane when we have so many poor people in this country that are US citizens Yeah, that aren't being taken care of and you just letting people come here. Yeah veterans That many people come here illegally and giving them all this money like what's the end game? Yeah What is the end game and also come on In New York is is complaining about it. Yeah, well he fucked up. Yeah, he's called it a sanctuary city We're welcome anybody and they're like great. Yeah Come on down. Yeah, well also common Harris has said that terrorists aren't coming in through the border It's not true.
2:08:00They've arrested terrorists. Of course it is. That's been going on for a very long time I mean even back to the Bush administration where they would send floods of like kids that the cartel would come down to You know people way down in Mexico. I said we're taking your kids and that's it And you couldn't say a single thing about it cartel runs Mexico. I believe You know That's a fact I just bring them to the border and in a flood of sending in a flood of kids or Whoever to get across the border and embedded in that or are terrorists You send you know, he's sending a thousand with four terrorists and it the odds are a lot better of getting in here Yeah, and that's been going on for a very long time and But it's just never been its poorest as it is now right because now it's not just poorest It's like an open invitation.
2:08:52Yeah, which is just insane And then if you want to come here from Europe like say if you're a mathematician or something like that or even a friend of mine from Estonia is a comedian is trying very hard to get his green card. It's very it's a difficult process Yeah, if you want to come here illegally all you have to just walk right They'll let you in they'll give you a cell phone you give you money They'll put you up in a hotel to give you free food Just back that they throw away their ideas and everything. Yep. Yeah, before they come across the border You can say you're anybody. Yeah from any country.
2:09:20Yeah, no genetics testing No questions asked. Oh, hey come to a future court date. Maybe yeah It's not in your mirror. What state would you like to go to right? And then the court dates are years ahead So you get to live in this country illegally subsidized for years And you would assume that those people are gonna vote for the people that did that for them And I think that's part of it. Yeah, and you know a lot of There's deals made with the cartel all of a sudden the cartel is just like the cartel is charging them with a $5 ,000 ahead Uh, you know, five thousand dollars ahead times 15 million.
2:09:59What does that come to that's a lot of money that Jesus Christ You know that I think basically our government has been paying for a lot You know subsidizing them over there and dealing with the cartel and It's the world has turned upside down. It really is from At least for the world I I want to but you know, I'm old and so Uh Maybe not so relevant, but Not true. I don't think that I don't think that common sense. I think it's always relevant if you ask me It's relevant. Yeah, it's very relevant Everything's relevant. It's it's also everybody recognizes that this is not the best course for everybody for the whole country Regardless of if you're you're a left -wing person you do not want terrorists sneaking into this country No blowing up cities.
2:10:52You don't you of course you don't know So if there's an option where they can get here easily and quickly you would want to seal that up For everybody even if you're a kind person that thinks we should make some sort of a path to citizenship Which I agree like your housekeeper I agree. Yeah Absolutely, there should be some sort of a path where people who are here Look, I'm the grandchild of immigrants people people came across because they wanted a better life But it was easier to do back then the 20s. Yeah, not hard get over here. What's your hair? You can settle down Yeah, I mean there should be a path and that's one of the things that made America so interesting because it's a melting pot of all these ambitious people They came here from a place that sucked and they they carved out a life Yeah, yeah, there should be a path But all four immigrants it should be everywhere.
2:11:38Yeah, yeah, yeah everywhere just Do it the right way right? It's better for everybody. Yes better for everybody You know, that's just that's just the way it is. I mean as it is now. It's just that you know, Venezuela and gangs or Yep, you know all or all moving into the same neighborhood and it's very much Would you see the fun point you know back in the New York days? What the Aurora Colorado apartment building? Do you know that issue? No? Okay, there's a apartment building in a Aurora, Colorado that has been taken over by Venezuelan gangs Yeah, and so they essentially no one can collect rent anymore the gangs correct collecting rent They're victing everyone out of the building and they're controlling this building and everyone's aware of it Yeah, and it's been squawting Or using the laws of the United Exactly because Colorado is incredibly liberal right that area is incredibly liberal.
2:12:33Yeah, so See if you can find that story on the Venezuelan gangs taken over the apartment building in Colorado There was I was watching a news piece on it today where they were you know expressing this Real confusion and frustration that there was nothing that they could be doing about this and that they have different doors Have x's on them the red x's are when people have been evacuated from the apartment They shut it down they shut down slum lord apart with wait a minute Slum lord, were they saying anything about the the gangs? Other colleges slum lord's down Oh, Aurora evictions draw attention to owners neglect at other apartments.
2:13:16Yeah, maybe that's true But what about the gangs that's what I Google and this is what pops up Yeah, see that's the problem with Google there's some stories Okay, special task force and that check that out. Okay. Here we go. Yeah special task force investigating Venezuelan gangs Allegitized to Aurora Aurora City Council officials say that apartment complex on domes tree is closing to the code violations But some councilmembers alleged there's more to the story So this is what I've been reading what I've been reading is that these Venezuelan gangs have occupied this thing the gang known as trendy Aragua Started out as a prison gang in Venezuela as expanded throughout the Western hemisphere last month the Biden administration designated the gang as a Transnational criminal organization accusative engaging in human smuggling and trafficking gender -based violence money laundering and illicit drug trafficking Aurora police department in partnership with the Raven Task Force is assigned four dep detectives to a special task force That includes additional local state and federal partners to investigate the violent crime impacting our migrant community Set Aurora PD spokesperson late Thursday Yeah, well they take it over to the public's complex.
2:14:28Yeah, the city is closing their cold facts and puria Interesting, so they just basically take over department complex and there's ain't nothing you can do about it Yeah type of situation. Yeah, you can go through the courts all you want well, especially if our laws are so lax yeah Yeah Yeah, that's not good and if they're all flooding into the border and these are the type of people that are flooding and those guys aren't coming over legally The Venezuelan gang members, so that is that is an effect of what this basically especially that is wail I mean, you know that's been going on for a while people trying to leave the country and then they empty the jails Yeah, Castro dead Empty the jails and let them come out because The gangs are their political force at you know at some point they become a political force.
2:15:19Yeah Because how many that takes but You know, that's what they're doing especially when you have warfare almost you have things like defunding the police and this lack of appreciation for law enforcement. Yeah, no cash bail Just a slap on the wrist all of it is crazy. It's all up cops and it's okay You beat up cops as an illegal immigrant on on film. Yeah, and you just get let out of jail and the kids given the two -pock double fingers to the yeah Yeah, yeah, oh man, crazy. Well, this is this is what is the end game of this type of behavior and how is there no course correction That's what's scary to people and what should be scary to people because this seems like if I if I wanted to throw the country into complete chaos That's how I would do it.
2:16:04I'd have gangs come in through the border. That's why Stalin did it, you know They were involved in bank stalled in this earlier earlier his career that they rob banks Wow, that's what they did they you know, they were gang and basically may him, but they you know they rob banks to finance You know the cause crazy What a wear time. Yeah Well, this is Dennis. I appreciate you very much. I've always loved your movies. I really enjoy talking to you Yeah, really it's a lot of fun a couple of conspiracy theorists just get together talking it over couple of loans get that adrenaline When does Reagan come out?
2:16:43Reagan comes out August the 30th all right, and I'll be watching quite a few theaters actually there it is I'm very proud of it. I I love the movie and I Number one out people entertained and Also if you were born before 1985 you can go to Remember how great this country used to be and if you're after 1985 you can see it and you can realize how great this country still could be All right. Thank you very much, brother. Appreciate you. Thank you. Bye, everybody
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