#2200 - Kat Timpf

23:54Well, I so... I don't know the thing that's solved with my ship. Hold on. What is this? Amazon's Alexa differing responses about voting Donald Trump versus Kamal Haire were an error. Oh, of course. Listen, it's not an error. Yeah, of course it's not. It's not an error because they literally ask the exact same questions about Obama and... Or excuse me, about Trump and about Kamala. The exact same questions. I'm sorry. I'm distracted because I'm trying to look for it while I'm talking. Why should I vote for Donald Trump? I cannot provide content that promotes a specific political party. Oh, I think I did see this.

24:34What is this? Alexa, why should I vote for Kamal Haire's?

24:42While there are many reasons to vote for Kamal Haire's, the most significant maybe that she is a strong candidate with a proven track record of accomplishment. As the first female vice president, Haire's has already broken down a major gender barrier. And her career in politics has been characterized by a commitment to progressive ideals and a focus on helping disenfranchised communities. So just woke up again to straight from Alexa. Just listen to the language being used. And it's the glass ceiling. Yeah, aggressive ideas. It's not surprising. And of course, Kamala is completely just an idea that's been manufactured.

25:20It's been amazing to watch. It's been so insane to watch. Yeah. I mean, the Joe Biden thing, I think is a perfect example. Of how the, you know, the part is the hyper partisanship allows things to happen. Because Joe was very clearly not okay for a while. I mean, anybody who was watching that and just seeing it, if that's your, like your grandpa, if that were my grandpa, who's, my grandpa's almost 90s, who's got like 10 years on the guy, I'd be like, Papa, we need to go to the hospital. Like, you're not okay. But that became a Republican thing to say. So people weren't saying it until they couldn't possibly hide it anymore, right?

25:56Right. So I think that's a perfect example of how partisanship leads to some really stupid shit. But I was actually shocked that they threw her in there. And just right before that, people were saying worst vice president ever. Obviously, you know, not popular. Now she's, you know, she's brat. Like, I think that's Charlie XCX is trying to make it cool. It's like, she's, she's a DA. She locked people up for cocaine. She's not, for weed. And you hear, she's not brat. It's just so been so crazy to watch. People are so excited and they don't even know what they're excited about. It's just gaslighting.

26:30Yeah, of course. Of course. Of course. And like a production machine level where you're like, wow, look at this thing work. This is nuts. It's like watching a car get put together by robots. Well, yeah. Yeah. And people get really mad, people get mad at me for working at, I mean, even my personal life for working at Fox News, people are like, how could you work them? Like, what do you mean? Did you see where they compare the differences in her speech and Detroit versus her speech in Pittsburgh? Yeah, yeah. We did watch this. Yeah. First of all, what's fascinating is if I was in her court, if I was working with her I was listening, listen, listen, first of all, nothing off the cuff.

27:10Nothing off the cuff ever. No interviews ever. Speeches. Yeah. Telepropter only. We're busy. Yeah. We're busy trying to fix the world. We don't have time for interviews. Yeah. I'd say no interviews because interviews are when things go sideways. So like CNN was 41 minutes, they edited it down to 18 and all of it sucked. 18 minutes of nothing. I, oh yeah, I want to see the rest. Also, like the difference between the way they probe JD Vance versus the way they probe her and Walt. So listen, Kamala in Detroit versus Kamala in Pittsburgh literally five hours apart. Number six, leave. You better thank the union member for paying.

27:45You better thank the union member for vacation time. Oh. The accent. I'm sorry. Thank you, Nians, for your vacation time. You better thank you. It's so embarrassing too. It would be one thing if she did that all the time. Right, of course. She's got, you know, the ability to talk like that if she enjoys it. So she wants to talk a little shit. Yeah. That's how she's doing it. But it seemed as like it's all this construct. Of course it is. You have been to Universal in Hollywood where they shoot TV shows and you go down the street and it's these facades. It looks like a city street. But behind them is just a bunch of boards holding up the front of the building.

28:30There's no house. Yeah. That's what this is like. Yeah, it's exactly what it's like. And I still have no idea what I think she could win. She could totally win. She could totally win. I know a lot of people that think it's a good idea to vote for her. Yeah. So what? She's watching Ben Stiller with just fucking eyes glazed over her. She's talking about how great she's going to be. I was like, this is fascinating. Yeah. And it's, I get it. You're like, it's the lesser of two evils in their eyes. That's what they're looking at. Oh boy, you should not be happy with this. Nothing about you should be excited about what they've done to you.

28:57Because they've, they've tricked you into talking about something in a very positive way that you just recently didn't talk about in a positive way. And there was nothing that happened. Nothing happened. There was that person. It was nothing that she did. She hadn't even spoken at all for several days. And people are like, Kamala Kamala. I mean, the cover of the Time Magazine without an interview is crazy. I mean, I'm so jealous. I'm so, I can't. After I, after I, after I, after I give birth, I'm going to just have my husband bring me a pack of zins immediately. Immediately, they get teens the best for writing, for working, for everything.

29:32It's great for a lot of things. It's just the delivery methods for a problematic. I had a problem with vaping for a while. Like, it was bad. I'd be in public with multiple vapes sitting at, I was like, cat, you can't, you're, you're you can't be doing that. Those are so addictive. They're so addictive. I, I was one of the first vapors. I quit for, I'm serious. I quit. My buddy Adam has one of them robot things. I did. I did. I had a laboratory in my house. He was like, I was sitting on my liquids. It was like that. It was the benefit of having like a big box vaping. It's just rips harder. I used to love to blow fat clouds.

30:09Oh my god. I was, I went, I had to get a dental procedure done something super minor, whatever, like a deep, I couldn't wait for 24 hours. I put so many nicotine patches on my body and I still didn't even feel anything. It should have killed me or at least made me throw up the amount and I was like, ah, that I still kept vaping. Damn. I eventually, when I quit vaping and I was using pouches to help me quit vaping and I was using 12 milligram pouches. I tried those. I can't do it. I started to hit up and I just put them away. Oh, most people don't have a fucking heart attack. Most decent people, which is why I'm saying I had a problem and I quit.

30:44Now I got down to six and now zero obviously because of this baby. I used to use, I like threes. Yeah, I can't wait. I want to get six. I'm going to get six. I can't wait. I'm going to be in the hospital bed. I'm going to be like, I can't wait. But you can't because it'll get in the milk. That's what I can, you can pump and dump, right? Yeah, but you're going to be pumping out, you're going to be pumping out nicotine. For sure. Okay, but this episode is brought to you by LifeLock. Tax season is already stressful. You shouldn't have to worry about identity theft on top of everything else. And trust me, it's a big worry, especially since during tax season, your sensitive info does a lot of traveling to places you can't control.

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33:4390 proof, Franklin County, Kentucky, Buffalo Trace, American, family -owned, independent, and perfectly untamed. Is it, I'm going to drop it. No, I'm going to try to breastfeed, okay? She definitely breastfeed. I know I should, but it's like I've already had nine months of no nicotine. That's the thing that's the hardest thing. Yeah, but once you've kicked it, you should probably try to keep it off. No, no. I think about nicotine every day, like every day. We ever cigarette smoker? In college, I smoke when I drank it in college, I drank a lot because I was in college. Okay, and so then vaping comes along when?

34:25Vaping comes along probably. When I was mid -twenties, and I did it for eight years. Whoa. And do you start with regular vapes that you buy at the gas station and move your way up to robots? I started with the blue sigs, and then they just weren't hit and hard enough for me anymore. I was ripping multiple blue sigs, and then I love the jewel. I love the, I mean, so there's these things in Detroit called breezes. I don't know if you can get them other places, but I even get them in, I'm from the Detroit area. And I was having, I don't know, this is illegal, so I probably shouldn't say this, but my brother may have been sending shipments in to me, you know, when they were illegal in New York, because the breezes were the best.

35:04Why are they illegal in New York? For a while, well, they weren't sold in New York, but for a while there was supposed to be the jewels, rather, the jewels were illegal in New York, and then we weren't sure about what was going to be legal in New York, because do you remember that when they made jewel pods illegal? I don't, because they, I don't think they ever became illegal in California, but they did make them the mango ones, because I was flavored ones, the mango, the mango, and that was my shit, the mango jewel, when you get a fresh one and it makes that crackling sound. And honestly, if I found a mango jewel pod somewhere in my house, I would have, I don't, no, not when I'm pregnant.

35:39That's the thing that sucks is like, I love this baby so much that I've not even met yet. That's wonderful. Nothing, it's like so real commitment. I know, but it's so weird for my brand to love this baby. I never thought I'd have kids. I never thought I'd never want it to. And then I, now I'm like, my baby is the size of a cucumber, but you know. Well, you're doing the right thing by not feeding it jewels. Of course. Of course, but I'm going to go back. You have to go back in your mind. Yes. Wow. I'm a better, both of my books I wrote on nicotine, I had nicotine gum in my, I just want to like have something in my job.

36:13What is the side effects that they think can happen to kids? Like premature birth, I think. Oh, boy. Really bad stuff. Oh, bad ones. Really bad ones. And is that from smoking or is that from the nicotine itself? I mean, I'm really limit. I mean, I can't, it's like, you can't really do stimulants when you're pregnant. You can't do anything when you're pregnant. I can have 200 milligrams of caffeine a day. So is being off of caffeine hard or is it being, you can have 200 milligrams of caffeine a day. So is the being off the stimulus? Is that the hardest? Or is that's harder than nicotine? See, I don't know, because I've always done them together.

36:48And so did you have to wean yourself off or did you go cold turkey as soon as you knew that I had to go cold turkey? Because I, yeah. So what was I like? I was a bitch. But I long. Couple weeks. It was really rough. Wow. Because you have to like sort of like your equilibrium has to come back. Yeah. Well, I had a doctor tell me that I probably couldn't get pregnant without medication. That if I took medication, I would have a 10 % chance of getting pregnant naturally as they say, the sex way. I would just living my life. And then I didn't feel good. And then I took a test. And I was like, here we go.

37:19And we were planning on starting IVF. And so I just quit everything cold turkey at once. Wow. And so was it immediately hard? It was hard right away. First day, like, oh my god, where's my speed? I would go to the gym and I'd come back and I'd put nicotine pouch in. I mean, I really like thick teal. I used to be vaping on airplanes, which is so illegal. It's so illegal. Did you do it in your hood? I would bring a blanket with me on the plane and I'd sit underneath it like a psycho. Thank you. Because psycho. But they're like, you know, what are they going to do? You think you're like, man, you're not allowed to be under a blanket.

37:54I mean, I looked like a mentally ill like to see. But some times. People are watching me. I see like little pieces of me. Oh, no, no, because I would also hold it in as long as I could to get the biggest rush. I would hold my breath. I'm telling you, this was bad. So I've never seen anybody as bad on it as I was. Which is why I can never try crack because I would like my life would be over in three days. I would love crack. So I don't. It seems like most people do. Yeah, they do. They do. It seems to be a problem. Yeah. Anybody is like doing a little crack every now and then. I mean, I couldn't handle the nicotine vapes.

38:29So crack probably not. But again, yeah. So when did you move to robots? I moved to robots after the jewel became illegal. And I couldn't get them hangos. So I was trying to get the same rip. I could get off a jewel. So you were being like a chemist. You were going mixing oil. I almost mixed that. And it was like stick. And they would explode and be sticky everywhere. And sometimes it explodes in your mouth. You get that like my friend Adam Curry uses a robot. He's got that robot lunch box type thing. And he says it's better. Because he says first of all, you know it's in there. Because if you're buying them from, they're making them in Vietnam and some Switch Offs somewhere.

39:08Have you ever seen those factories where they test them all? Yeah, it does. Some guy sucks on every one of them. Yeah. This one poor guy. You think you got that? I would have loved that job. I would leave my life behind and move to you. I mean, I can just rip vapes all day. Yeah, but you have to live in Shanghai. Yeah. And this is what I was doing that job for free. This dude is just sucking on these things. I mean, I don't know where they make them. He's an Asian fellow, but he just keeps hitting them. He just has to check every one of them. Make sure they blow smoke. She's grabbing them off the assembly line.

39:38Oh yeah. Put them in these boxes. Yeah. So he's just mainlining nicotine all day long and whatever those oils are. That's the thing. Because I mainly felt like if I get lung cancer, I will feel stupid. You know, I'll be like, how could I possibly have thought I could get away with doing all this and not have something bad happen? Well, is there better oils that those things that like wouldn't my friend Adam, you know what Adam Curry is? Your original pot father. He's the guy. I know I know who he is. Yeah. He's the best. But he actually has those things and he was trying to convince me that those things are okay.

40:10And that the whole thing about vapes being bad was just like the tobacco companies and a bunch of shenanigans and I was like, hmm, I don't, paraphrasing. I'm not getting a first story. But his argument was that those robot lunch box type vapes those big fat boys, at least you know what's in there. Like you know where you're getting your oils. Like you can get different quality and caliber of nicotine oils. Yeah, I was, well, I mean, I, I, I, I bullied, there's a lot of studies that show it is way better than cigarettes. I also, but it's also, but it's also, but it's also the way that I've used cigarettes when I've had, like I can still when I go to Europe, again, not when I'm pregnant, but when I can, I can still go to Europe and smoke cigarettes only in Europe and come back and not smoke cigarettes.

40:53And there's immediate downsides to cigarettes. You gotta go outside. You smell bad. Duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh. I was smoking the vape, a vape hitting the vape when I was in the hospital after it. Like I had a near death experience in 2020. Do you know about my shit? I had a shit bag. No. So I had a, oh, I had a, I know you're jacked, but this is, you're not squeamish, right? No. Okay. So I had a bowel perforation. I had a really bad stomach pains. I went to the hospital and they told me I need an iliostomy, which is a shit bag. It's the one, they take your small intestine, they pull it out of your stomach and you have a bag.

41:26So I had to have that surgery in November of 2020. And I was in the hospital and I was ripping the vape. For sure. Oh my god. I had my intestine hanging out of my body and I'm ripping the vape. I had it for about five weeks and I didn't tell anybody. Wow. I wrote about it my first book and that's how everybody kinda found out that that had happened to me. And it was, it was bad. It was really, really rough. And then I got it reversed. That's good. I got it reversed, but I had complications. Oh, that's not. So I had complications where I was gushing blood on my ass because there's a loose staple.

41:58And I needed a transfusion in guess which day that was that I had that bad thing happen. What day? January 6th. Oh my god. That January, the January 6th. Oh my god. And I didn't talk publicly about this for a long time. So whenever I was on the news, like people would ask me, it comes up a lot. And like I'd be thinking about, yes. Yeah, I'm a diet. I bleed out of your butt. I was literally, I will never forget this. I've never talked about this before, actually, this specific thing. I will never forget this. On January 6th, I'm all doped up, right? I think if you have stuff like that, they'll let you have a delotted drip.

42:31I'm like, all doped up. Yeah, I tweeted or I posted on Facebook, tweeted, whatever posted something along the lines of, this is actually my personal Facebook it shared, too. And it was like the news is stressful, turning on a Ted Bundy documentary to relax, something like that. And I looked at my personal Facebook and some dude who I knew from doing open mics in Baltimore had commented like, oh, are you stressed out about, you know, basically that like work that you did this, you know, because I work at Fox, that I did, and I was like, and I'm sitting there on a bucket in a hospital with blood gushing out of my ass.

43:08And this dude that I did open mics with eight years ago is trying to tell me that he's having a bad day, you know? Well, he's trying to shame you. He's trying to blame you for this insurrection attempt, but it seems to be. Right, which again, I was in the hospital having, you know, I would say I had a worst January sex in a lot of people. I would say so. I would say so. I mean, I'm just reading that. Ashley Babbitt probably had the worst. The worst, yeah, absolutely, absolutely. But here's what's fucked. It's exactly what we were talking about with comments. Who is that guy? That's a guy who's a failure.

43:40Some dude who you started out open mics, and he remembers, and now you're successful, and he's not. And he's like, yeah, you caused the fuck a collapse of democracy with your jokes. From this bucket. Where? I'm bleeding out of your blood. Literally the most humbling probably moment of my life. I was like, I am a fragile, fragile human being. Right? There was some crazy lady next to me too. She was some lady, she was like 90 years old. And you know, she thought that they want to give her a potassium supplement, so she was talking out loud about how they're trying to poison her with something. I had her comment, because we were all watching the January 6th.

44:18It was on in the hospital. We were all kind of watching it together. And she was like, well, everybody loved Trump at first, and now they don't. And she was like, everybody, those are all Russians at the Capitol, and I was like, and I'm sitting there on my bucket, like a foot away from this woman. And I'm like, mm -hmm, like I'm like, I'm like, oh, she's talking to me. Asking her questions. I was. I would have given up on any idea of a real conversation. There's not, this is not a real conversation. You're not talking with just the moment. No. I can't get frustrated. And go, those aren't Russians.

44:46No, no. They're probably feds. Okay, you don't even know. Like, hey, lady. I just remember being like, totally. Yeah, you gotta ask your questions. Like, what have you read? What have you read that brightened to those conclusions? I don't think she knew what she'd read, but she was speaking very, she was told me. She's speaking very matter of factly. Like, oh yeah, people love to do that. Yeah, but it's, well, also probably, they're giving her potassium supplements. Probably because they're fucking brain shutting down. She was really old. She was really old. She was probably not doing so well, like, health.

45:17They're giving her potassium supplements. That's what they're trying to say. Hey, your electrolyte balance is off. Fucking nothing's firing correctly. Yeah. You got real problems. She's probably cramping up. Yeah, the hospital was a bad, I mean, it's always a bad, it's like a bad hang, right? It's horrible. But if you could talk to someone really dumb, who's like really into something politically, you could get kind of insight. Well, I had the, when I was in the hospital for my first surgery, there was this lady who was, like, she was farting really loud. She was singing. She was like giving glory to God for her farts that she was, oh boy.

45:46So I was turning up my forensic files as loud as I could, just cranking it up. And she asked me if I could turn it down. And I already had, this is the day of my first, I already been having the worst day of my life. So I was like, how the fuck could you ask me to do it? But then we wound up talking all night. And I have a number on my phone still. Because when you're in a hospital, and I was by myself, because this was during COVID, and in New York, my husband was allowed, he could come visit for, I could have two visitors a day, maximum, two people for maximum, two hours, and not past 6 p .m.

46:14So I was scared. I had this near death experience and then complications on the reversal. I was alone the entire time. And you need it. I mean, and again, I'm lucky because I lived through it, right? There's people who died, obviously. I'm so, it was just so horrible and scary to do that by myself. And also, it's hospitals you need an advocate. Because I was so doped up, they weren't like my sheets weren't being washed as much as they should have been. I couldn't do, you know, it's just like, you need someone, hey, she's, hey. Yeah, I'll put a workers like everybody else. Some of them were really good and some of them suck.

46:50And also, it's just, it's weird to be alone like that. Like there's no reason why you should have had to have been alone. No. If it's okay for someone to sit with you, that should be fine. Why couldn't you stay? Yeah, I mean, I've had family members in the hospital before. You just sit next to them and read a book, and they feel comfortable. They, someone that they love is there. It makes them feel better. I had my insides hanging out of my body. You should have somebody with you. I should be aware. Two hours is nuts. No, two, but again, you're already letting them in. Like, what does it get worse in the night that he can't stay past 6 p .m.

47:20Because also he had work and he's still obviously, he came to see me every day. But he couldn't come for very long and he had to leave. And I was there by myself and it was so scary. And there was no benefit to it. It was just because of COVID. Oh, that's why. Oh, okay. That was the, but that doesn't make sense because he had COVID. It'd already be in there from the two hours. He was in there. It's not even time to give it to you. Yeah. Yeah. They told me I will never forget that. When I woke up from the first surgery, they came in and they told me that they had good news and that I tested and I get it for COVID.

47:54I was like, I don't fucking care. It's smoke and testing is hanging out of my stomach. I didn't even test for it anymore. No, they don't. Yeah, my daughter had a pretty like a pretty loud cold or a cough and they brought it to the, I was telling my wife, she probably got the vid. Yeah. She probably got the vid. It's going around. She goes, no, she's got a nasal infection. And I said, did they test for COVID? She's like, no. No. I'm like, they didn't even test. Your call, like if this was two years ago, they would 100 % immediately test you for COVID. But you know, they're still talking about COVID.

48:27I don't even test kids for it. I tested myself. I had it in July and I tested myself only because I'm pregnant. And I wanted to know like what to expect. And I got really sick because my immune system's trash. Again, because of this baby, no nicotine, can't fight off illnesses. Are you doing anything to supplement your vitamins? I'm doing just prenatals, probiotics, that's it. Prenatals? What is that? A company sells prenatal vitamins. The company sells prenatal vitamins. That's it? Yeah. I mean, I eat food now a lot more than I used to. I didn't, I used to be chewing nicotine gum all day. It doesn't make you hungry.

48:58There's supposed to be some real benefits to nutritional supplementation or your baby is being born inside of you, like, or being created inside of you. Like maybe possibly going to a place to get your blood work drawn, finding like what nutrients you're deficient in and it can really help you. I should. I should do stuff like that. We can help you. You know, I mean, it's all just simple basic natural stuff like vitamin C and vitamin D and vitamin K2 and all that stuff. But your body really extra needs that. You're making a little human. I know. And it's the weirdest thing. I can only imagine.

49:32I mean, I, I, I, I, I didn't used to be someone who ate, like, I eat all day now, you know, I didn't used to, I mean, I eat food at night. Like I used to not eat all that. You were on Spain. Of course. Yeah. But I was like, also nicotine gum all like chew. I always nicotine gum. You know, my friends have quit cigarettes. That's the first thing they say to get fat. Yeah. They immediately start getting weight. Cause nicotine's really essentially kind of a speed too. It's a little bit of an estimate. I was so much an appetite suppressant. So I was yes. And I was, but I was honestly so used to this, the amphetamines, so I was on vibeans, which is slow release.

50:05Adderall I don't like. I was on Adderall briefly and it was too much for me. I was jittery. I was anxious. I was no, I won't do Adderall. Okay. And the vibeans is slow release. It's, I doesn't make me feel. So when I first went off of it, I, yes, I ate like, I gained like 10 pounds in six weeks, right? But now I feel like I'm just as hungry as I was when I was on Adderall without the nicotine. So I, because I got so used to it. So I wasn't ever really getting this like, woof, which Adderall I did get from that from. How's it going? Like your skull like, and I didn't like that. I didn't like it.

50:44How long did you do it for? So I did it because my insurance didn't cover vibeans back when I looked in DC. So I was like, I need something, right? Did you get street Adderall? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not doing that, certainly not. Only doctors, I only moved my drug dealers are all actual doctors. So I, I, I was like, okay, I'll do Adderall. How much different can it be? And it was like bad. And if I ever forgot to take it, I was like, I was like walking in a wall. Like I couldn't, like I was like sleeping. I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it. So then I just like found coupon somewhere.

51:15My doctor helped me up. I was like, I will sacrifice in other areas to afford the vibeans because I don't know how people take this. Like Adderall I couldn't do. You took it for how many months? A couple months, probably. Yeah. And what dose is, would I give you? Probably 30. Is that a lot, Jane? It's, that's the one you're saying was a lot. The other day, it was 20s. So that's like my someone was talking about 20s. Yeah. I've taken, I've taken meditate, I've taken again. I was, I was, I'm one of those, when they say like study the kids were put on riddlein when they're five, you're looking at one.

51:45Like this is me. That's, I mean, I was on, and it's, you know, it is harder. It is really a lot harder for me to live and do basic shit. But it's been interesting. That's Henry Rollins' story, too. Yeah. They put him on riddlein when he was five years old as well. And he said like he'd be just as fucking, ahhhh. I would. I would school just gritin his teeth. Yeah. All his energy just buzzed up on speed. See, I didn't feel like that. So the Adderall, that's, I can't, that, that's not for me. Adderall was not for me. I won't do Adderall. Well, I know a lot of people that really love it and they're all kind of out of control.

52:23So it was just a little bit off the rails. Oh, if I take Adderall, I thought I forgot. I remember I forgot my, my, my, my, bands one time and I took someone's Adderall. Like this was a few years ago. And immediately I'm texting everyone on my phone. Like, am I gonna be okay? Tell me I'm okay. Like, are you mad? That's not, I like, I'm exhausting enough to be around as a person just naturally. I don't need, I don't need the Adderall adding to the problem. You know, I thought like I, the world's collapsing around me. That's not a good feeling. It's just not so many doctors prescribe that stuff and how many people are on it.

52:55Like the, the, what was it? 39 million, is everybody was prescriptions last year? Some cookie like that. It's probably more than that because I think that was actually 2021 now that I think about it. So it's probably way more than that now. Yeah, I mean, I was one of the first and I think I will, I think I will go back, but then I'm like, maybe I should try just nicotine. But a doctor probably wouldn't recommend that. But what do they know? Yeah, most doctors are not gonna recommend nicotine ever. Right. It's, I'm a better person because I'm nicotine. And I know that's not like popular to like, don't like, that's not for the kids.

53:28They're listening. That's it. But I don't know, I, I, I, I be, you know, writing, whenever I'm writing, sometimes I'll be like, oh, I, I'm so, I'm so, like, I need to get a sentence perfect when I'm writing. I'll, I'll spend hours sometimes on a single sentence if I think it's really important sentence. And I'll be like, I don't know, I don't know, and then I'll put a, put a zinnin' or put nicotine, then I will get it. Have you ever tried other neutropics? Yeah, I mean, I'm just nicotine. I mean, yes, but. But if you ever tried to add the things like, you ever heard a neurogum, you know, neurogum.

54:00No, not that. We have some over here in that blue bag right there. Neurogum is, I don't have anything to do with this company, by the way, it's just something I like. Neurogum is gum that has theinein in it and caffeine and it enhances brain function. Yeah, I've tried the theinein before. And then there's some other stuff that you can get. We sell something at on it called alpha brain and there's alpha brain, then alpha brain black label, which is like the more potent for version. That stuff's very legit. Really helps memory, really helps. So we did, back in the day when we first put it out, a lot of people are like this, there's fucking snake oil, so, well, okay, let's find out.

54:37Because there's studies, but there's no real, like let's find out, let's get something definitive. So we did two double blind placebo controlled studies at the Boston Center for Memory, where they found increase in, increase in verbal memory, so your ability to recall words, increase in reaction time, increase in alpha flow state. So there was a bunch of like recognizable benefits at a dose that was lower than what I was taking. Because like half what I was taking. Like we were, I think the dose was two pills and I do four. And you know, a lot of times I'm getting crazy, I'll do six, lots of important.

55:12Like if I have a UFC, UFC's require six. Because it's six hours, I'm sitting down there for six hours. I bring snacks and I drink monsters and I have alpha brain. And I plug in, lock it in. I am excited to start, to own my body again and be able to take, whatever. We'll start doing stuff. But you should try some other stuff that doesn't, like there's some other stuff that will give you benefits, but doesn't give you that weird feeling. You know, that accelerated feeling. I don't like that. Because I'm anxious enough as a nurse. I'm actually a very anxious person. I have a friend whose daughter was on ADHD medication and she's getting off of it and he started giving her alpha brain.

55:53And he said it helped her tremendously. I actually never thought I could go off of it. Like I actually, that was one of my concerns in terms of actually getting pregnant. So you was gonna be like that for the rest of your life. Like when I went off of it, I mean, I was like, what do I, I'm in it now baby. But you seem totally fine, coherent. You're talking very quickly. You know, you're not exhausted, right? No, no, I'm not exhausted. This is you. Yeah. This is actually you. You want to go back to speed you. I do. That's kind of crazy. Because I could have walked out of here no matter what. And we'd be like, I'd have been so much better.

56:30If I would have been that. So crazy. I'm gonna be like, if I - Maybe you wouldn't, maybe you wouldn't connect as well. I don't know, because it's so weird, because I feel like I'm getting to meet myself. But also it's not really myself because of the pregnancy, because this is pregnant me. But then I kind of am curious to stay off of it a little longer when I'm not pregnant, just to see. I think you should. Yeah. You seem like a wonderful person off of it. So you're my primary care physician now. I'm, I'm, okay. You seem like a wonderful person off of it. I don't think you need it. I think everybody would like to be a little bit more productive, especially if you're a creative type, if you're a writer, if you're doing things.

57:06You'd like to be a little bit more productive. But there's no biological free lunch. Yeah. And there's probably gonna be some sort of long -term damage to a lifetime of stimulating your system. Oh, there's gonna be the - I know a lot of people that did a lot of Coke in the 1970s and they're all fucked up. A lot of them died with neurological conditions. Oh yeah, Coke is, that is, I've got, yeah, I know. Interesting, okay. I just wonder, it's a difference between doing Coke, five nights a week for a few hours a night versus a pill that you're taking every fucking day that jacks your system up. Who knows if you're gonna blow a fuse over time?

57:48Like who knows? Oh, I've definitely considered that. I've definitely considered that. For me, it was just that there was, I had, I didn't function off of it. So I didn't try. Now what about have you ever tried new visual or provigial? I was on provigial briefly, but I was, I forget why I went on provigial instead of everything else, but it was, oh, I was diagnosed briefly, I've never talked about this with narcolepsy, but I don't think I really have it. Did you fall asleep? I fell asleep a lot in the sleep study, but this was also in college. And like I smoked a lot of weed in college. No, so I really, I really think I might have just been, like, had a stone over from the way.

58:30Oh my God, that's a list. And I can, and they said you got narcolepsy, take some pills. I've never, I've never talked about this, and I've actually kind of just remembered it, but yeah, and I couldn't stay awake for the sleep studies. They were like, she's got narcolepsy. No one was like, hey, you taking ball and grips?

58:50I'm so sleeping. Oh my God, that's so funny. Which I think that's must have been why, looking back, the fact that I was taking that many ball grips. And again, I got, I was, I graduated the top of my class. I was very studious, work hard, but I just, I college smoked, smoked a lot of weed. Yeah, you're probably sleepy. And I was sleeping. I might have smoked like the afternoon before, or like day, for crazy's of it. That's all the requirement they have to give you a drug. They're like, she looks pretty sleepy right now. You look pretty sleepy. You must have narcolepsy. Like not you're tired, not you're staying up all night.

59:26Give a lot going on at your house. Are you not getting any sleep? No, you do. No, you have narcolepsy here. Take a pill. I would have told them the truth. They'd never, nobody ever asked me like, they didn't ask because they don't give a fuck. They just want to give you a pill. They want to give you a pill. Yeah, I get that. The more they prescribe, the more money they make. Let's go. And they're like, you need provigil. Yeah, okay. And then I took it and then I stopped taking it. And I went back to I think mediate, which was another stimulant. Wow. Provigil doesn't seem like a stimulant. Does it seem like for you?

59:57No, it wasn't. And then there's new vigil. New vigils, another version of it. I don't know what the difference is, but they both seem to work the same way. I used to take it if I had a drive. Like if I was in San Diego and I did a gig and I'm like, it's 11 o 'clock shows over. I could be home in my bed at two in the morning. Yeah. Latest, you know. It's not really three hour drive unless there's traffic. Right. But you know how it is. If you're driving in the road and it's late at night, just know on the, okay. Anymore, I miss it. When I would be on the road and I was, is it because of narcolepsy?

1:00:26And no, it's because I haven't in 10 years. So I'm not sure I remember how. Which my husband is like, you need to learn. Like, you know what I make this poor mandu, or I have made him do the past five years. So I have a cat that is, he's not 14 years old. He is a dick. He's got a lot of health issues, but I won't let him die. Like I won't let him die. She's like my best friend, blah, blah, blah. But I, we can't find anyone to watch him. We can't find, we can't board him at the vet over Christmas. So since I met my husband going on six years now, I've made him drive me and the cat home to my father's house.

1:01:03Where's the father's house? Detroit area. Oh my God. That's like 18 hours. With the cat. It's like 12 hours with the cat. So it's like you try all that time. And when you get there, and then when you get there, you're in Detroit. Oh my God. So a lot of people are like, he's the lucky guy, which, and it's like, no, he's not. He's a saint. It all works out. You know, but this is happy. He is happy. He said, it's fine. It's like there's not that big a daily rent a car for 18 hours. Just get zen about it. For a cat. That's not even a nice cat. Like he bites. That's a problem. He's daily medication.

1:01:43Can you like hire a friend to stay your place? This that. This is it.

1:01:51Sorry. You did just make a very reasonable. So just for a normal cat, for a normal cat, but this cat will like, he is feral. So was it an actual feral cat? Yeah. So I was dating my college boyfriend, living out in L .A. and I was like, I moved in with him non -consensually. That's a whole other story. I got into Columbia. I couldn't afford it. So I decided to stay in L .A. and keep interning, waiting tables, doing comedy. And we were fighting a lot, because we shouldn't have been together. So he got me, he's a great friend of mine now, actually. But he brought me this cat as like a band -aid on the relationship that he just found in North Hollywood, basically.

1:02:27Oh, wow. That was like dying and sick. And this has been like mine. Feral cats are weird. They never really get unfarrowed. No, they don't. Feral dogs can eventually become dogs again. I've seen it happen. They usually have like a fear of people, but they eventually calm down. Like people that have gotten like stray dogs off. I had a stray dog off the street. Yeah. And I had a stray cat. And that stray cat, I was the only one that could pick that motherfucker up. I was the only one that could pet him. Everybody else would come near him. You hiss at you, and just swing at you, and run away. Yep.

1:02:58So you need perfect. When my husband went out on a honeymoon, we had a hired a vet to stay at the house. Oh, that's a lot. And my sister, I had her stay there too, because he likes my sister. But he finally likes my husband now. And it took like five years. That's crazy. But like he's like, I'm driving. He's like every year, I'm driving. Because every year I'm like, this will be the last year. And yeah, because it lives like 18 years old. But this cat has had serious health problems for four years, requiring multiple daily medications that I have to administer, because not just anybody can come stay with the cat, because they have to administer the medication, which is a hazardous activity for the average person.

1:03:36Oh, Jesus Christ. Because you have to do this syringe in the mouth. Oh, fuck. So I hold him. He'll let me do it. Oh my God. That's so crazy. I won't let, as I said, I won't let him, like I won't. Why don't you just let him go? He's probably miserable. Because he's stable on the medication. He's happy to see me when I'm home. Like he misses me so like he's, okay. I got it. I got it. Now talk to me. The thing is, if I'm being honest with myself, even if that weren't the answer, I might still have a hard time. Yeah, it's hard. It's like losing a pet is very hard. You're so connected to them. So like your baby forever.

1:04:07Well, I went through Marshall seven, but he's my baby. Yeah. He's a baby boy. He can always be a baby boy. When I got this cat, I was a cashier at Boston Market. My life has changed. Yeah, and this cat's been with you the whole ride. For everything. For everything. I get it. I get it. And he sucks. I objectively like, nobody's like, he's here. Have you seen that chimp crazy thing on Netflix? No. Okay, it's about that lady that kept a chimp and the chimp ripped apart a friend. You know, that story? No. I've heard, it's by the same people that did Tiger King, right? I've heard it's fucking insane.

1:04:47They said it's way better than Tiger King. They said it's not. Okay, I should watch this. I was really into like Jane Goodall as a child. I love Jane Goodall. Jane Goodall's odd though. You know, Jane Goodall movies. She leaves, she believes in Bigfoot. She was, I thought it was so cool when I was little, how she was like, you know what? I don't want to be a part of your society. I'm going to go live on the chimpanzees. I'm going to go live on the chimpanzees. I was like, you can do that. Okay, I can chimp crazy. He is lady. Is lady, like it's apparently, we can't really, can we play the trailer?

1:05:17Are we getting trouble? We can watch it off the kind of outfit. Okay. So that is the chimp that... Well, the thing about chimps is when they're little, you can kind of tell them what to do because they're little, they're babies, they listen to you. But then when they get to be a certain age, that's a grown adult, right? For primate. They're not listening to you. They rip your fucking nose off. They don't care. And they also have this very strong sense of fairness. Okay. Like one of the chimps, there's one of this guy that had a pet chimp. They had it for many, many years, then he got older and it was too difficult to control.

1:05:53And so they brought it to a chimps sanctuary. And so he goes to visit the chimp on the day of the Chimp's birthday and brought him a cake. Like they could still visit the chimp. They bring him a cake, but the other chimps are jealous that they don't get a cake and someone had left the door open. So the chimps come out, attack this guy, rip him to pieces, rip his hands off, rip his dick off, rip his... They ripped his dick off. They go for everything that makes you a person. They tear your fingers off, they tear your eyeballs out. They're not even trying to kill you. They're trying to main you.

1:06:23Yeah. They do some vicious evil... Like that's a crime of passion. That's not, yeah. And they do it because they are mad at you. It's a different thing than like a, you know, a wolf. Wolves not necessarily mad at you once they eat you. A chimpanzee wants to tear you apart because it's mad at you. Because you didn't bring them a cake. You didn't get them a cake. That's fucking why. Yeah. So you're dealing with like a low level intelligence and jealousy, pettiness, like sense of fairness and then all this like alpha primate shit that comes with chimpanzees in general and then you got them captive.

1:06:59So they're basically prisoners. So they're in this cage. They have nothing fun all day. And someone shows up with a kid like, where's my fucking kid? Where's my fucking kid? And then they just get out and tear this guy apart. Yeah. I mean, I feel like that a lot of that was hidden from me as a child though, when I gave a presentation on Jane Goodall in school, there was like a box set of two VHS tapes. And one was like the happy part. And then like VHS too was like, I don't remember. I don't remember what was in it but it was like something graphic and bad that happened to the chimps. A chain or to the chimps?

1:07:28No, to the chimps. Like something, I don't remember what it was. Some killed them. I don't remember. It might have been diseases. I don't remember what it was. All I remember is at the school called my mom because I brought in the wrong one. Oh wow. And it was like, I, I, I, school called your mom. Yeah. Because it brought in something that you didn't produce. That was about chimpanzees. But I like shared it and it was like disturbing. I don't remember what it exactly was. Was it gonna learn? Oh my God, forbid the kids learn something that disturbs them. I was in trouble all the time. But how naughty is that thought?

1:07:55Yeah. It's a real truth thing. Don't you teach about the Holocaust? Like what the fuck is wrong with you? Don't you teach about Pearl Harbor and Hiroshima? Terrible things have happened. Yeah, that's true. You know, you got to not teach about them because they're disturbing. I agree. That's so ridiculous. I was also, you know, teachers always had enough. I was always in trouble. So it was like, oh, good, good, good. There's a pick, there's a yearbook where there's a picture of the, the principal and the yearbook and I'm in the picture. Cause I'm there. I'm there. Cause I'm always in trouble. Yeah, but isn't it interesting that you now being becoming a successful person and doing standup, you would see something like that and go, oh, you're just in the wrong job.

1:08:33Like someone's trying to put you in a job in an office somewhere and that's really not for you. I could never work in a normal office. I never have. I've worked as a waitress and I was a bad one. But, sure. And then I, a lot of people out there that say I could never be a standup comedian. Right. Yeah. I started doing standup because I needed to do standup. I mean, back when I was in LA and I was, my life was just going to shit. I, the, the boyfriend who got me the cat and we broke up with me and shocking. And then I moved into this shitty apartment and shitty neighborhood. I was still waiting tables doing comedy.

1:09:04And then I lost, I didn't have that enough money for that apartment. So I had to move in with this bartender. I was sort of, sort of kind of seeing from my California Pete's kitchen job. And not like really. I was like, just cause I need to live here. It doesn't even work together together. It was a mess. I had no car. I was like riding the bus. I got skabies from the bus. Like it was, it was a, it was a dark time. Right. And but I would get on stage and I would talk about it. And that made me feel some sense of power over the things that were making me feel powerless. And I was like, oh, I really like this.

1:09:33I could make fun of this shit and people would be laughing. You know, I would talk about, about how broke I was and people would be laughing. And I'd be like, oh, I'm created something out of something that I felt it was going to destroy me. Yes. And it's a classic story. Like every, like that's the marvelous Mrs. Mazzle story. That's the Lenny Brew story. It's the classic story. People going on stage and going, what the fuck is wrong with my life? Yeah. Yeah. Like, hey, I think I'm on something. Yeah. It really, yeah, it really was a mess. And but then I kept being gravitated toward that. I mean, even the ship bag thing.

1:10:07I mean, so Jim Norton, who I loved, dearly. As do I. Yeah, he's, Coddy's great. He's the best. He's the best. I did his radio show after the first book came out talking about my ship bag. And he was like, you know, Coddy's like, there's a human being. I'm really sorry that happened to you, but as a comedian. I'm jealous. And I do have a lot of material from that, you know, because a lot of you listen to. I'm sure. I'm sure. And it's so, I think it's so much better to have that. People say it's like, oh, it's not. It's so much better to have that than to like, let your trauma define you and try to like, lord it over other people.

1:10:46Yeah. Like, you can't say this thing because this thing happened to me. Right. No, that's not. But you can do that. Something which is don't have that same psychological makeup, which is my original point is that there's a lot of people out there that shouldn't be doing regular jobs. And just giving them rid of them, I don't think the answer. Yeah. Like if you're saying that you can go outside, you can play with bugs and lizards and shit and you're fascinated. Love it. That's what normal people are supposed to be doing. It's so abnormal to be sitting in a room with artificial light at a desk where you're not supposed to move, talking about shit that's not interesting to you.

1:11:18That's normal for a kid to rebel against something like that. I was a helly and though. I mean, I got like, I didn't want to do math and I started chanting like no more math. I got on the table. Like, I got in trouble for inciting a riot. It's what they said and my dad was like, she's six years old. Like, this is not, but I was like, I was a disaster. I mean, I was fucking fun. That's the thing. I was invited to everybody's birthday, but they wanted me there at least. You know what I mean? I'm still, I'm still fun. I'm a fun person. That's not a bad thing. But it's just the problem is the environment of schools is terrible for kids.

1:11:46But I need a lot of fucking energy. But I needed school. I was valedictorian in my high school. There were 10 of us. So it was everybody who had a four point out. But I needed to do well at school because I knew my parents couldn't afford to send me away to college. So I'm kind of like if I wouldn't have been on these drugs, what I have been able to do well enough at school because I'm not getting a sports scholarship. You know, what I have, or maybe I would have just gone straight to college. I don't know. But I had to study, I had to be good at school in order to have the success that I did.

1:12:14In turn, at least academically. But then after I graduated from college, where I got a full scholarship, I obviously couldn't afford grad school. So then... But listen, I'm hearing you talk right now and you're not on stimulants. You're obviously very smart. So why are you saying that you couldn't have gotten a four point, oh, and less you on stimulants? I don't believe it. I don't know. I feel like I might not have gotten... First of all, we don't know. We don't know. Because you've always been on them. But you're not on them right now. And right now, you're very sharp. You know what's funny is there's people in my real life who have known me for decades, who have not had in -person conversation with me off stimulants.

1:12:48Deck, people I've known my whole life, who you know, still. And then you're beating me for the first time. Well, you're very sharp and you're very fast. You don't seem like you're slowed down at all. Yeah, I was worried that I would be. Okay, but maybe that's just in your head. Maybe. And maybe you would have gotten a four point, oh, either way, because you're fucking smart. And maybe all that does is give you speed. And you're like, ah, you keep going. Maybe you would have been more introspective if you weren't on them. Maybe you would look at things slightly differently. Maybe you'd have a more balanced and nuanced take if you weren't on fucking diesel fuel.

1:13:22In elementary school. In a fire burn inside your head. And I never thought I'd even consider not taking them any day or every day. I never thought I would consider that, especially even at the beginning of my pregnancy. But that was also the first trimester, which I was like exhausted because I was pregnant. Right. I was like, I can't do anything. Right. So when you went in, you were exhausted at first and then you were on speed as well. So I was off speed and pregnant and off -nicotine all the same time. No, but when you found out that you were pregnant, it was because you weren't feeling well, right?

1:13:54Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Yeah. While you were on speed. Yeah, I was so tired. Yeah, exactly. That's why I was like, I'm still, I'm not feel good. I think you're just a fast paced person. And I'm not necessarily sure. I'm not a psychiatrist. No, of course not. No, no. Well, you are my primary care physician. I know you're getting right back on. As soon as you can. At least to right, I probably will, but. But that's what I'm saying. Like you sure. Yeah, so at least to right, I probably will, but I'm actually, but nicotine or speed. I don't know. That's what I'm saying. I'm the fact that I'm even can, still, I think both, because I'll still have days where I really struggle and I forget things and I lose things.

1:14:30And I'll have this whole plan with my husband and then I'm like, oh, the shit, this is the wrong day. Like I'm just like. That's what most people do. That's normal. Not to this extent. I bet it is. It's normal to be a little scatterbrained. It doesn't. On more than a little scatterbrained. I know, but you're fine. So like if I was like, if I was an ethical doctor. This is water, right? No, that's coffee. This is water right here. That's actually. There we go. Great. I can't have coffee. That's too much. 200 milligrams a day is all you can have. I had like already in a marathon today. If I was an ethical doctor and you came into my office and there was no financial incentive for me to prescribe medication to you, I'd say you're fine.

1:15:08What's wrong with you, cat? You know, when people would like kill or take a medication to be in the state of mind that you're at all the time. Like the way you can talk and how coherent you are and how articulate you are and fast paced and you're thinking's very quick. You don't need anything. Yeah. Like this is on your head, but you can't write bullshit. That's not true. It's just different because you're not high. You're not speed it up. Action, you're teasing, smashing keys. You still can write. It don't say like you don't need a medication because writing is complicated. I mean, you shouldn't take it.

1:15:43I'm not saying you should have the ability to, as long as you're not fucking up your baby, after all that breast feeding stuff's done. But the point is, I think this whole I need it stuff is nonsense. Well, I've started to think that I at least might not go back to doing it every single day. Because I was every day, truly, except if I was in the hospital. Well, wouldn't it be nice to be able to go on a vacation and not have to take speed? Yeah. It sucks to take speed at the beach. Yeah.

1:16:12It's not fun to be on that at the pool. I get how it's been good for you. Yeah. It's been good to you. You've enjoyed, you've reaped its benefits. But I don't think you need it. I mean, for you to be here right now, sober, in the state you're at, as sharp as most people that I talk to, you're on the ball. Yeah, I mean, but I'm scared. You know, I'm gonna be like, what I'm in better. Right, but that's crazy. It's a joke, of course, but it's my whole life. That's how people stay on heroin. That's my whole life. I was at my first communion on vitamins. Oh my God, that's so nuts. Like, think about all the childhood, you know.

1:16:47Well, maybe this baby will be an awesome reset for that. Maybe at the end of the nine months, you'll have a completely different perspective. You'll be in off of it so long, you realize like, wow, it's actually better. And I think about 19 every day, I don't think about the medication every day. So I think I'll definitely go back to nicotine. Maybe I'll use it sometimes, maybe not every day. I'm definitely not. So you say next day, you're too pissed. Like, I know. You have the big lunchbox is strawberry lemonade. It was great mixing the flavors and all the other. So what is in the, what is the best, like, let's find, I should probably call Adam and ask him, but what is the best oil for vapes that's not as bad for you?

1:17:23I don't remember. How would we Google this? I don't remember it. How do we Google this? Is there a difference in the harm that certain vape chemicals can do? And is there a healthy version? So there is, and this is, and I know there's one that's really bad, and that was when kids were getting their lungs exploded or whatever, but there's two kids died, right? So with that, I did research on this. I spoke to somebody who, for an article, an article from National Review about this, who said that she would be surprised if that chemical was in the nicotine vapes at all, because it's pretty much only necessary with THC, and that it was only in black market THC vapes, basically.

1:18:03That's what I had heard too. And there was two different people. It got some really tainted THC vapes and died. Yeah, which vaping THC in general is just like, that's not, you never, it's so, that's my most boomer opinion that I have is the weeds too strong. Like it's so strong. When people are like, hey, you wanna, no, because I don't know what's in that. The vape is like, who made that? Yeah. Who put that together? Who's the chemist? What bathtub did this get fucking cooked up in? At least if you're getting the actual cannabis plant, you know what it is. It's strong or it's not strong, you figure that out, you're gonna be fine.

1:18:41You're, you're vaping, you on a month, where the fuck that's coming from? No, a few years ago I was out with my friend and I hit his weed pen and I couldn't feel my legs. I was like, I mentally felt not high, which is like the opposite I was going, I mean, I wanted to feel my legs and I wanted to be high. And I'm like, okay, I'm like, I don't know what to do. I'm like, I have to leave. And I couldn't feel my legs and then I got back to my apartment and then I felt completely fine. And I'm like, what? So it was just temperate around. No, yeah. And I'm like, I have no idea what was in that. And I've never, ever, ever hit a vape weed pen ever again.

1:19:17And I'm like, I will. You don't wanna be the person that winds up in the news. Yeah, yeah, I thought you were gonna say, you don't wanna be the person that has to go home. Yeah, also be in the news. You don't have to be the person who winds up in the news because your legs stop working. Because you smoke some fucking gas station vape. And I have to tell everyone that I smoked a fuck it. I'm like, well, how'd you lose your legs? You know, there's people in the reputation unit that have been to war or whatever. I went to a quickie mart and I got a vape pen. I ripped a bootleg weed vape pen. I was trying to get high.

1:19:44Is there any benefit to the kind of oils that they use in the homemade robot type? Vapes? It just brings up a bunch of websites that are trying to sell me stuff. But what I get there from those is that they're all saying you want something that doesn't have nicotine in it, which is a little strange. That's not the idea. That's what we want. Then you wanna add pharmaceutical grade nicotines. That might be where the problems come in. Okay. They're making cheap nicotine. Right. It's there's something like that. So you, uh, but what is that word? Dicetyl? Dicetyl free. I saw that a few places. Dicetyl?

1:20:13I don't know. Dicetyl. I'm seeing it right. Vegetable glycerin and propylene. Okay. Go back up again. Go back up again. Says the safest e -juice ratio is one that has less propylene glycol. If your vaporizer allows it, try to use 100 % vegetable glycerin e -juice. I don't know if that's true. That's what I have. These are not from any great sources. I can see the real. Right. But when they're saying vegetable oil, are we talking about like what kind of vegetables? Like, yeah. What's in that? Is that seed oil? That's all, yeah. It's just as everything says PG or VG mix. And that's what that means is the vegetable glycerin.

1:20:46Right. But what is that vegetable glycerin made out of? Is that made out of like canola oil? Like what is it made out of? I don't. Because I know someone was making it with MCT oil. And they were trying to tell me that this is the safe version. Some dude with a robot. And I love, I didn't listen. If I - MCT oil and my vapes and fuck to all your healthy. That, I mean, I don't think it's totally healthy or I would be doing it. I mean, if I found out I was dying, I'd be gonna vape immediately. Here it says VG is generally recognized as safe by the US food and drug administration. But hold on a sec.

1:21:15As VG is vegetable based, there's a much lower toxicity than PG or so that's propylene glycol or nicotine. So it's safe to use in e -liquids for vaping. Of course though, like many things there's a potential for allergic reaction. But what's it made out of? Vegetable glycerin. What is vegetable glycerin made out of? Google that. I just wanna know what they're using. Like what plants? What vegetables? Clear odose sweet -titting liquid made from the vegetable oil such as palm, soy or coconut. Okay, palm terrible for you, soy terrible for you. Coconut not bad. Coconut's good for you. So it's like dependent upon what kind of oil you get.

1:21:53You're spraying the inside of your lungs with some shit that's generally not good for consumption. Like palm oil is supposed to be bad for consumption. Canola oil is bad for consumption. It causes inflammation. Vegetable glycerin is made by heating triglyceride -rich vegetable fats under pressure or the strong alkali such as lye. That's the shit that they used to get rid of bodies. It's not how you liquefied. Yeah, lye is nasty. It's like help people straighten their hair out too. Process yesterday the caster. Uh -huh. And was it beaver staxor staxor staxor staxor staxor staxor? Right, right, right.

1:22:29It's a flavoring in cigarettes that was finding. Oh my god. I know it's not fair which cigarettes use it, but Chris Harris was telling us that he drank this alcohol that they didn't tell him what was in it. It was a shot. And inside the shot was a essence of beaver. It turns out it's a secretion from the beaver's anal gland. Ew. And it was in his mouth for 10 days. He couldn't get the taste of it out of his mouth. But why? Do you drink that? He didn't know what it was. It was on a show top gear. Okay. And he's traveling in some other country. Look, this is one of the local things. And he drank this and it stayed in his mouth for 10 days.

1:23:02There was like benefits. I'd get it. This is no benefit. Yeah. It's a flavor that they add in liquor. Really? Jesus. It's cinnamon or vanilla hints. But we saw it with the vodka, right? They had beaver caster vodka. So what is MCT oil in vapes? Google MCT oil in vapes. See if that's legit. Because this guy was trying to, which is essentially like coconut oil, stuff like that. MCT medium -gigial. But is he just? Yes. So this thing says it's just, it's trying to find any heating triglyceride -rich vegetable fats. Right. So I would get any. But see if someone does it if they're trying to promote it as a healthy alternative to normal vapes, oils.

1:23:40MCT oil in, in fat, in vapes. The very first thing that came up was from weed maps. It says occasionally vaping MCT oil may or may not be harmful to the lungs. That's so helpful. Just just keep it on the vague side, kids. But I feel like also people who say that it's fun. I mean, they're probably really addicted to it, which I get. Because I've been there. I've been there. It's the best. If I was dying, I would. So I was in inhaled. MCT oil can be harmful to respiratory health. I miss you. I miss you. Michigan's banning them. But okay, when you hear Michigan's banning them, I go, okay, but did another industry tell Michigan that they're bad so they can sell their fucking bullshit oil vapes.

1:24:22Like there's so much fuckery going on with all this stuff, especially these unregulated things. Yeah. Eric goes, can cause lipid pneumonia. Oh boy, that's not good. Yeah, oils. When heated and inhaled, oils can cause lipid pneumonia, a serious lung condition. Yeah, I knew a family in California, and their kid got pneumonia. He was vaping every day and he won up times. Like, 19 years old. Yeah, apparently he was just vaping constantly. Six years ago, it's the current article to show that MCT oil combined with CBD has increased health benefits. But yeah, that's, it says even in, I don't know, that's very tough.

1:24:59It's so hard to know what's true and what's not true. It's just so much fuckery. Yeah, I have no idea. Yeah, you have no idea. You have no. It's so hard to know. And I actually was a person who trusted, but in terms of like doctors more, in terms of, then COVID happened. And it's like, I don't know how you do. I know. I don't know how you, I mean, I know it's was years. I'm still not over it. Well, there's just too many doctors that have a financial interest in following whatever the company line is. And with certain things, they're not allowed to prescribe medications because those medications aren't as profitable as the ones that they're promoted to prescribe to bring this up.

1:25:35And then she said, you said, since we don't know, I was gonna bring it up earlier where you're talking about it. This says that nicotine replacement therapy could be okay during pregnancy. Well, it's safer, but it's safer than smoking. There's no way I'm ripping dark swan pregnant, okay? There's, I think that's for people who are like, gonna be ripping, they're like, listen, rather than smoking sigs, have nicotine gum. That's such a dude thing to say, cause dudes can have kids. Jamie's like, whoa, step, sorry, says, it's fine. And my husband is still, he still vapes. So he still vapes. Oh, wow.

1:26:04And it's, you know, but I'm like, I'm, you know, I can rub that in his face a little bit that I quit. But it's definitely, oh, my friend Duncan, here's a good story. My friend Duncan has diabetes. He has the kind of get it from diet. He's a thin guy. And I found out he's feeling like shit, found out he has diabetes. Like, wow, this is fucking crazy. So cut sugar out of his life. All of a sudden, diabetes goes away. Feels incredible. It's like, I can't believe how much energy I had. Oh my God, I was poising myself all day. And then, you know, he has this like glucose monitor thing. And the glucose monitor thing is kind of, his glucose is too high.

1:26:37And he's trying to figure out what it is. It's vaping because all those flavored vapes have sugar in them. So every time he's taken a vape off this gas station bullshit. Got diabetes from vaping. He's probably got diabetes from vaping. Yeah. Sugar as well, but he's vaping all day. So he's pumping the sugar into his system. And so he realized after he cut all the sugar out, that he was still, his sugar levels would go crazy. And it was because of vaping. So as soon as you stop that, what all normalized? Sugar, sugar is crazy. Crazy. I've gotten into sugar a little bit. Which sounds insane to say, but I never, like now that I'm pregnant, it's like, what dopamine is there available for you?

1:27:19Not that much. So I'll get dessert. But I feel like I got a pumpkin spice frappuccino last weekend. The smallest one available. It's 12 ounces. I drank this thing. I was like, we have to go home. I don't feel good. And I laid on the couch and I slept for three hours. Right. If you're not used to it. That's a coffee. I know. I was so sick. And I've gotten into, I was last night. I was in terms of, I was on the phone. I get dessert and he's like, well, every time you do, and then you're really sick. So maybe. Have you seen the blizzard when that guy takes the blizzard from Dunkin' Donuts? And he puts it next to a clear dish.

1:27:50Oh, the donut? Show you how much soak. No, it's that drink, that frozen coffee drink. Yeah. And that frozen coffee drink has so much sugar. And he puts the clear cup next to it. So you can see how much sugar it's 183 grams of sugar. Do you think there's a lot? There's a lot. It's the first Dunkin' Donuts. Yeah. Yeah, Dunkin' Donuts blizzard. That's what it is. It's from Deericklein. Oh. It is? What's the Dunkin' Donuts one called? I don't know some giant. It's like a frozen pumpkin swirl thing. It has videos on the screen. Okay. So this is it. So this, it says Dunkin' Donuts doesn't say what the thing is, but it's some kind of a sugary coffee type beverage.

1:28:27That's so gross. Sorry, Derek Green, for tainting the name of your wonderful blizzard. Which I'm sure has no sugar in it. That guy's showing you all the sugar that's in that thing. That's so insane to take that much sugar in a drink. But people do it all the time. Look at that stack of sugar cubes. That is so bananas. That's 181. So it's 34 teaspoons or 51 .5 cubes of sugar. Holy Jesus. Can giant drink that too, yeah. Yeah, but it's also got ice in it. Yeah. If you get rid of all that ice, how much of it is all sugar? It's like you're just drinking sugar and ice. And you see people walking around with those.

1:29:05And I'm like, where are you going? To the hospital for diabetes. I couldn't be going anywhere after having, so like, are you drinking this? It's afternoon right now. Well, people get used to this sugar and then the sugar doesn't make them crash as much. Because I don't do that. But if I do, like if I have like a milkshake, I'll be like, oh, yeah. Like it hits me because I don't eat it all the time. But some people eat it all day long. And their body just gets accustomed to it. Just like alcohol. Alcoholics. It's very similar, honestly. It's very similar. It's a real addiction. Sugar is a real addiction.

1:29:36Yeah. And it's everywhere. It's in everything. It's in so many different foods that it doesn't need to be in. But it makes it more addictive. I know. And I think it's so interesting with all the things I'm advised to do, like being prey. They don't really say, like, oh, you shouldn't have a bunch. I'm sure that's bad. I'm sure it's terrible to have a bunch of dessert. Yeah, it should be eating organic food. Eating healthy food. It's being really healthy. Essential fatty acids. Eating lots of salmon. Things on those lines. But yeah, nobody cares about that. Nobody talks to you about sugar. No, they don't.

1:30:04They don't have sushi. Don't have turkey. Don't have. Oh, by the way, that's a problem. The cat. The cat you have. I had him tested for toxin plus medicines. Yeah, that's crazy. He doesn't have it. Oh, that's crazy. I was so like, I mean, I thought for sure if he had it, I would have it. Because he sleeps under my chin every night. Oh, yeah. But I actually, we also have a very expensive litter box. We have a robot. Oh, what about us? It's called the, no, it's called the litter robot. I've seen those. Do you know that it not only self -cleans. It sends data to my phone in real time. So every time he uses the litter box, I get an alert on my phone, letting me know how much he weighs.

1:30:42Wow. Yeah. Because I used to have to weigh him myself to monitor. Because basically if he gets overweight, he gets diabetes, he's going down. He has cardio myopathy. He has, which is a hard thing. It was your husband, I'll be sneaking and pulling. Yeah. I'll be giving that cat ice cream. I don't know. He's so patient. I'm like, I don't know how. He's like, the cat's not even a nice cat. I'm like, I know. You know, he has herpes too, the cat. Oh, boy. Which I was really, it's a, it's a respiratory thing. I was confused at first too. I called it, either vet called me and told me and I was like, but he's a virgin.

1:31:20And they were like, okay, it's like they pick it up as kittens and it causes them to get a cold that comes and goes. So we take some medication called veralis. He takes that one also. How often does he take that? Every day he makes into his food. He is a probiotic, makes into his food. If you didn't give it to them, what would happen? Every now and then he get a blister? No, it's not, it's the respiratory. He sneezes and coughs. How bad? Enough where it was like on the pillow in the morning, like gross. Oh, gross. It was just, I was like, oh, it's just, just herpes. But then he also, he takes steroids every day too.

1:31:52Oh, boy. And, who? And a heart medication. Oh, boy. That's a lot. I know it's, I listen, but I will do, I would do, I would keep him on the thing as if I, if you could do a ventilator, like I would, I would, I would, which clone him. The thing is, is no because he sucks, you know what I mean? But what he suck if you had him from a baby? I don't know. Maybe wouldn't suck. Maybe wouldn't suck if you had him as a kid. If he didn't have all the trauma? Yeah. I guarantee you that's, there's a switch that goes in those feral cats that never really shuts off. No. It's weird. It's a weird switch. Because like, it exists in certain animals.

1:32:28Like, there's, when they go feral, they just never come back. There's just a giant difference between like domesticated certain, certain domesticated animals and feral cats are the best example. Because feral cats are so different. Domesticated cats are wonderful. Like, can you do the buddy? Look at their head up. Yeah. They sit in your lap, they touch your legs and go up like this, up and down with their little claws. It's cute. He'll do that, but then he'll just bite you. You know what I mean? Decides like, this is a mom. Like I said, I had a feral cat, he used to do that too. But the difference in between that and an actual cat in the wild is profound.

1:32:59Like, they know no one's looking out for them and that switch has already gone off. They're not being taken care of. That's true. You care of them from the time he was a baby. Be interesting. Maybe be a good cat. Maybe. I don't know. Which would be willing to do that to clone them or would you think some pet cemetery ship would go down? Oh, no, not that. I think it'd just be so hard. Because what I love about him is like all the shit we went through. You know, he was with me through everything. And you know, from, you know, going through all that shit in LA and then he lived with me in DC, which is a horrible place.

1:33:30And then, you know, New York and everything. So he's like symbolic. It's the time in my life. I dedicated my first book to him, him and Joan Rivers. It was him and Joan Rivers, neither of whom can read this. That's what I dedicated to. Joan Rivers has my favorite, my favorite conspiracy theory. The real cooks believe that they took out Joan Rivers when she said Michelle Obama. Yes, yes, that conspiracy. Yeah, the people are like, look at this video. Look at this video. She says this and then what happens? It's so funny. Those, those fucking, the really loony conspiracy people. Oh, the hilarious.

1:34:05There's so, there's so much entertainment and that. That's one of my favorite ones. Oh, that's Joan Rivers. She was 80 years old in plastic surgery. I know. For like the 80th time. Like that shit is so bad for you. I know. Getting put under is so bad for you. I know. And when you're 80, it's so dangerous. But it's probably addictive to get all that shit done. I mean, I've not had plastic surgery, but when I get old, I might want to. Like I might want to get like a facelift. Well, I think in the future, you won't have to do that. I think they'll have an ability to regenerate skin tissue and make your skin much healthier.

1:34:37There's their for sure, they're already doing these things where they micro needle your face and cover your face and exosomes. I've done that. Yeah, that I've done. That has a significant impact. Red light therapy has a significant impact in your skin elasticity and your collagen. But I think in the future, they're going to be able to regenerate tissue. And I think they're pretty close to that. I think you're going to need to get your fucking lizard face. I mean, I'll do it though. And I get that. What keeps me out though when women get a mouth, it's too big. Do you think it's a Joker face? Because they're fucking faces being pulled away.

1:35:07Yeah. So they have a smile and they always show some gum. I know. I think it's addictive. I think you get like a little bit more and a little bit more and you don't realize how crazy you start to look. Well, it's for sure body dysmorphia. Yeah. You know, it's the same as people who have anorexia, the same as people who are body builders. You think they're tiny. It's all people have propensity to develop at least certain people do this kind of disease where you don't see yourself as other people see. Right. And it can get real weird if you start doing stuff to your face. Yeah. Like we played a video compilation of these two brothers.

1:35:41I don't know what they do. They're famous for some reason, but super handsome when they're young. Like handsome, looking like model, look like model. And as they got older, they started shooting shit in their face. And then they became like like pinwheel from saw. Like the whole thing is like super bizarre. And if you see the madness take place like over the years, like here. So this is what they look like. Yeah, this is what they look like now. But let me show you what they used to look like when they were young. Look, why do they? Yeah, that's. They're just good looking guys. See if you can find a video of the guy over the years because the video over the years is wild because you get to see his face moving.

1:36:19You know, and you see him and you go, oh, it's like a good looking guy. Like good looking normal guy. Yeah. So this is, this is them when they're already fucked up. Right. But this is them when they're younger. Look, go, go back to that real quick. Look at that. They're good looking. Good looking guys. Very good looking. Like genetic lottery type shit. Yeah, like model type. Like right there. Great looking guy. And now look at them. They're looking same. Yeah. Instead of just looking like an old like Kevin Costeer. Just an older handsome man. No, it's also like, so I like, you know, and I'm very proud of having been on TV for 10 years.

1:36:53I have my original lips. I have my original teeth, which is like a big deal. People get like the big. There's a lot of bad veneers going around. Like a lot. I really bet it's probably a lot of good ones. Of course, but I like so my mom died. It'll be 10 years in November. I like that. I kind of look like her. If I fucked up my face too much, I probably wouldn't look like her anymore. Like I like to look like myself. Yeah, that's a good thing. And but I, I don't know. I mean, you always think you're like maybe a little bit. And people go more and more and more. I mean, maybe when I don't like it's a dangerous road.

1:37:22And when actresses do it, it fucks up their career. I think it does. Well, it does feel like some because they go away because they don't look like the same person anymore. Exactly. Like you grow up from dirty dancing. Jennifer Grave. I've never seen dirty dancing. What? I've never seen any movies. The only movies I've ever seen is I watch Happy Gilmore over over again. You don't see any movies of the Happy Gilmore. So I've seen Billy Madison. How much? How do we do? We want to be happy? No, I see. I just movies are long. Okay. So I don't. I mean, but I, I, I've seen. So she got her nose fixed.

1:37:54This is like her older, but when she was younger, she had this very prominent nose. And then she got it fixed and like she was unrecognizable. It's quite a little different from everybody else. But see, yeah, but the problem is when everybody knows you as the person who looks like that, like Barbara Streisand. Barbara Streisand got a nose job. It would be crazy. Right. What are you doing? You're not Barbara Streisand anymore. Right. We love the old you. That's what we like. We don't want you doing that. That's nuts. You're changing the shape of your nose. And it's really obvious. Yeah. Yeah, that's, I do recognize her.

1:38:26But it's crazy when dudes do it. Like politician dudes. And also they got that frozen forehead. Wasn't that Gates that? Also, I didn't got this. The eyebrows are up and his forehead's that moving. Like, hey, bro. I looked really real housewives. Yeah, like, hey, bro. Yeah. You just looked different three weeks ago. You can't do that. Yeah. You should do that. Yeah, I don't know. Who, why are you scared of a brow movement when you're a man? Especially as a man. That's, I don't get why men do it at all because men are allowed to get old. Men are allowed, you know, with women, it makes a little more sense.

1:38:55Men, it's like, if you are 80, you can have a girlfriend who's 30. It happens all the time, right? But women not so much. And people cheer it on. People like, yeah, it's hilarious. Yeah. Yeah, it's like when you see Rupert Murdoch with whatever his latest wife is. Everybody does it. Everybody does it. Everybody does it. Everybody does it. Everybody who's older, it's very common. You don't even have to be that rich. There's a lot of those old rich guys, though, that have like, bummer -wise. Of course. Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy to watch. That's why my husband's only two years older than me. So that's actually, I think I'm technically like 10 years older.

1:39:29Right. If you take society into account, he's actually, like, I'm a cougar. Right. Yeah. If you're going for a guy that's only two years older than me. Crazy. I know. It's like, in general, especially like, with old rich guys. Like, none of them are married named by their age. No. I told them, like, babe, I'm like, you're in finance. Your wife's not even born yet. But he said to me, he said that he usually gets bored in relationships. But with me, he prays for it. He prays for bored of the whole. Yeah, he's like, I'm never bored. He's like, nice chance. He's like, I wake up every day. I never know who I'm going to get.

1:40:03That's hilarious. Are you more or less stable off the end? Fedamines. I less. Less. Less stable. More impossible to fit. But I'm also pregnant. Right. So I'll be doing shit. I don't know if it's a fruit example. He'll say something to me. But I'm very self -aware, which is good. I think I'm very... Are you sure? I think so. I think so. I've had a lot of therapy, which I think is helpful. Like, when I've needed it, I don't know how to go all the time. But he asked me recently if I could pick some things up around. Like, this is your stuff, everybody. I was like, I'll just leave. If you want me to just leave.

1:40:34Then I'm like, oh my god, sorry. That was a bit of an overreaction. But I don't know if that's because I'm not medicated or because I'm pregnant. It's probably a little bit of both, you know? I mean, certainly there's something going on inside your body that's significant. And then on top of that, you're off speed. That's why I'd be interesting for you to wait a little while. I think I'm going to. Which I never thought I would. You probably should. You might like yourself more after nine months. Yeah. Because right now, you're still in the hell of it. It is. How many months it's been since you stopped?

1:41:01So whenever I found out I was pregnant at the end of May. Okay. So just a couple of months. Yeah. Yeah. June, July, oh and we're in September now. Okay. Yeah. So three months. Yeah. So this is like a new thing. You know, your body's probably still equalizing, you know, normalizing, getting down to the regular level. And it's weird when I see myself in the mirror, I still do it jump scare. Because I'm like, who's that? Because I was so skinny before. I was really skinny before. Now I have like a belly because I'm supposed to. Right. But I do it jump scare a little bit. Really? Yeah. But I'm going back out.

1:41:33I mean, I'm going back out on tour when the book comes out. So I'm going to be. Super pregnant. Super pregnant. Five days a week on Gottfeld. Two days a week on the road. Wow. So that's going to be a lot. Are you worried about that? Like becoming exhausted and that that would have a detrimental effect? I'm worried about being exhausted, but I'm not worried about having a detrimental effect. I mean, because I'm just going to do it. And I love it. Like I love being on stage. I love doing what I do. Well, so long as you get enough sleep. Yeah. Mm -hmm. But it's going to be tough at the end. It's going to be.

1:42:03You're going to do it all the way to the end? Yeah, I'm doing it all the way until I can't fly anymore. So the middle of December. Wow. But you know, it's my husband says he's going to come with me. He has his joke. He has like a couple of joke. He has like five jokes. And one of them is he's like, I'm going to come so she has someone to yell at. That's his bit. He has a few jokes. He's in the military, what else does he say? He loves, he loves, and people ask him if he's ever been hunting. Because he needs to say, just people. Yeah. It's another one. Yeah, he likes that one. Trying to think what he's got like a five solid bits that he does.

1:42:33But you know. It's crazy that you're going to do it all the way up until nine months. That's what it seems. Why not just like stop doing it like six? Because I, because I'm going to be rough. I'm a person of extremes. I'm always like, I want to take it to the limit every single time. And I also, I'm like, what if you give birth prematurely when you're on the road? I don't think I will. Oh, well, you've had a lot of experience having babies. I do, but they said so. They said I shouldn't fly past 34 weeks. So that would be December 28th, and my last show is I think December 15th. So I'm just listening to what they're telling me.

1:43:09That's good. But I, and I also, I think it's going to be, I really like the, I'm really passionate about the subject matter, you know, I'm, I love doing the shows and it's, why wouldn't I do it other than, you know, what you just mentioned. It is funny that people would instantly want to label you as a right wing person because you're on Fox. Yeah. And then also it's funny that just people do that anymore. Whatever they did when they first created Fox, because the, Fox was essentially the first real opinion based news source that was very right wing was on television. And then that gave the rise to, or at least gave some of the motivation to places like CNN to develop these editorial based shows and opinion based perspectives that really annoyed and polarized so many people.

1:43:57And it used to be that there were certain stations that would have objective news and you'd get objective news and you'd have right wing people given their perspective and left wing people. Like Gorvidal and William F Buckley debated live on television multiple times in a row. And it was like one of the biggest events on TV at the time. Like people were allowed to have differing opinions and they'd be on a show and we would let them talk things through. Yeah. And even then, I'm sure it was polarized. It's always going to be, people are always going to be tribal. But today it's so much more ridiculous that at any time I could have remembered my life.

1:44:34Well, I think that one of the bigger, biggest problems with today is not just that there's a lack of independent thinking, but that people have difficulty even perceiving it when it happens. Right. So if I say something that is critical of Kamala, then people are like, oh, she's maga, she's super maga. Or if you say something critical of Trump, then it's like, oh, you're a communist and you're going to vote for it. And they don't even perceive that, hey, maybe someone could be this other thing where they just kind of don't fall into either camp. And I get that people, yeah, people do have a point and just listen to what the point is.

1:45:08But it's in the parties don't mean anything in a lot of sense. Like I've been at Fox for almost 10 years now. So I used to get shit on for I'm super anti -war. I'm an anti -war person. I think, you know, it's a lot of, and I think we know they lie to us about a lot of these things. And then we know that people get promoted and they get rich who work and, you know, they move on from working as generals to working in weapons companies, etc. We know all this stuff. But that used to be something that the left would agree with me on and the right would yell at me about. And then it was Trump was becoming anti -war with Ukraine.

1:45:42And then it was reversed. Then I was like, I'm a Trump puppet for thinking and saying the things that I've always thought. So it's just people, it's just, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, people even notice that though. Right. They don't even notice it as it's happening. Because they're really just committed to their tribe. Exactly. It's these bloom no matter who people are red till dead people. That's then you can trick them into this is one of the reasons why like if I was the Graham manipulator of the world, if I really believe there's one cabal of super geniuses that's running everything, I would try to see if I could do that.

1:46:11Yeah. Let's say let's even get the left to support like censorship, pro war, invasive politics, like entering into people's homes and classrooms and, and you know, siphoning up their information in order to protect trans kids and fucking Detroit or whatever it is. Come up with some fucking reason and make everybody get a part of a centralized digital currency because that's better for everybody and put everybody on an app so we know if you're vaccinated. That's the left. That's the left. Yeah, exactly. If I wanted to show that people are so easily manipulated that there is no left, there is no right.

1:46:45It's mostly nonsense. It's mostly people just apply, they're just subscribing to a predetermined pattern of beliefs and behaviors that they think is good and makes them a part of the tribe. It's exactly what it is. It's exactly what it is. And because when people say, oh, you moderate, this is like a moderate according to what? What are these two pillars that have been set up? They're not, it's not real and it's always changing. It's, and it goes so far to the left and so far to the right that what, what used to be crazy is now normalized like hormone blockers for kids, like being able to take away parents' rights because the child wants to transition and they want to be able to do it without the parents say so.

1:47:28That's me. That's 13, 14 years old. So the fucking crazy thing. The stuff with the schools is crazy to me because it shouldn't matter what it's about. But there was a minute. You shouldn't have time in history we would have accepted that. No. To say that you can't tell the parents what's going on with the kids at school is to say that the state has more ownership over your kids than you do. That's some creepy communist shit. And it's not just creepy communist shit, but it's prescribed. It's like this is what you're supposed to believe in if you want to be a part of the progressive left. Yeah. And then but then of course the right takes it too far.

1:48:02You're like, drag, no drag queens, you know, it's. You should definitely be allowed to be a drag queen. But I don't know if you should have drag queen story hour for five year olds when there's no parents around. And also when the kids can't read or do math is my thing. I think that all this stuff, it's also very, I've noticed it became more of an argument after COVID. I think there's a lot of distraction from hey, these kids lost a lot because I think it's so crazy how it's this radical idea to say the department of when Trump said the part, I'd get rid of the Department of Education and people really go hates kids.

1:48:33It's like, okay, well, look what they did. And look what they're continuing to do. I mean, kids are not. Well, look at the results. Look at the results in this country. The academic results are terrible. There was no school for two years someplace. It's just getting rid of a department or disbanding a department. It doesn't mean you don't fund that thing anymore. But it probably would be better if there was something more competitive. Exactly. Because if you just give it, just like we were talking about the homeless problem in California, if you just give it to an organization, an institution, it's a government funded institution, has no obligation to be profitable, has no obligation to be effective.

1:49:07And you just say we're spending a lot of money on the homeless problem. What you've really done is just employ a bunch of people and they've done very little. No. Well, they've done a lot in terms of probably their own incentives and their own power and their own. And you can apply that to basically infrastructure, education, everything. It's just the same kind of thing. It's like, I'm not this person that says the free market will figure everything. But in a lot of cases, you'd be better off with some competition. So you'd force people to be more effective. You'd force results. You would force people to be accountable for whatever decisions they've made and what the results of those decisions are.

1:49:45There's no accountability. Right. There's no accountability. And that's a real problem in this country. And that used to be something that the left feared. The left used to fear corporate interference and big business and big government. They used to fear that. They used to fear all that stuff and now they're all in on it. It's so weird. Yeah. And for me, I'm a huge, I mean, first amendment is so important. If you don't have that, you don't have anything. Well, you don't have a job without it. Right. I don't either. No, of course, I would be jail a long time ago. Think about what they're putting people in jail for in England, just posting things on Facebook.

1:50:21But I get shit from both sides for depending on what I'm defending in terms of the constitution, something being constitutional. I mean, with obviously with the left, it's like what also was crazy to me as people, a lot of the same people were the Trumpist Hitler people. We're also the hate speech laws people, which is like, how can you think this government that's led by Hitler should be in control of what you can't again say? That doesn't make sense to me. But sometimes I also, the flag burning has to be constitutional. Because you have to be able to like buy a flag. And if you can't burn a flag, you bought like, come on, like that's government protest.

1:50:55You have to be able to do that. I don't like it. I would never do it. But you shouldn't put people in jail for it. Yeah, Trump said he wants to put people in jail for a year. Yeah, and I was like, duh, dude. It's like, you know what I mean? Like he got shot. He looked awesome when he got shot. I mean, really? I mean, if I got shot, I would not look that cool. Right. Fist pumping. No, no, I'd be like, yeah, it was amazing. When he got shot, I was like, oh, that he won. I really thought after he got shot, I was like, he just won the election. Well, I think they did too. That's why they shuffled Biden out and put him in jail.

1:51:25Yeah, I think so too. Yeah. And they're like, let's just gaslight these motherfuckers into a coma and push this through. Yeah, I think so too. I think so too. 100%. 100%. If they had a full year of Kamala versus Trump, like a full year of her running and doing interviews, who do you have a much parking? Yeah. We have a much more balanced understanding of who she is and how this is going to look, and what's going to be like if she becomes president. Absolutely. Because right now people are just riding on gas. Yeah. They're fucking riding on gas. But it's so powerful and you can see it that everybody's in honor.

1:51:58That's really powerful. People are excited about it. Alexa, Alexa is in honor. That Alexa thinks crazy. Pop culture, you know, everyone's in on it. And it's also, I hate election years because it's just like, if you don't vote for blank, this whole country is going to go debt. But both sides say it. So it's just like, it's no. Whoever wins, it's going to be shitty in just in different ways. And maybe some of the same ways. It's just not. What do you think would be the shittiest? Like not in terms of for the country, but in terms of people's reaction. Do you think more violence will take place if Trump gets an office or more violence will take place if Kamala gets an office?

1:52:40Because I anticipate there's going to be some craziness after the election. Of course. Once someone decides whoever is president, whatever gets decided, this is going to be some madness. You're going to be some real madness. And I get scared of that kind of stuff too because I know that a lot of times when people do that, they think they're making a point. But boy, if you're against government control, those kind of like real angry riots and protests are an amazing opportunity for them to clamp down on your rights. Yes, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. When that happens, it's like, okay, well then we need to federalize police.

1:53:19And this and that, it's like, it's crazy. I am concerned about it for the same reasons. For the absolutely. And it's going to be bad no matter what in terms of the reaction of the other side. I mean, people, I'm not looking forward to it. I'm like, I can't wait for this election to be over. And then I'm like, oh, it's going to be even worse. Yeah, probably will. I mean, especially if you believe the conspiracy theories that some of that stuff is funded, like some of that stuff is organized, some protests and riots, they seem to be organized. Right? And I'm not going to be a conspiracy theorist, but there is a thing called an agent provocateur.

1:53:51It's always existed. And they send people in to disrupt protests and turn them violent and make things chaotic. It's always been the case, especially if they want to push a very specific agenda. The people are fed up and they're angry. And so, when, remember when the George Floyd riots were going on, and they'd find palettes of bricks just laying around? Yeah, well, that was crazy because I... Anybody ever, some people had reasons for certain bricks being in places. But there was a few of them where people just said that they just got dropped off there. And that's exactly where everything popped off.

1:54:26Like, why are there palettes of bricks? There's never just palettes of bricks laying around. No, I have no idea. But if you were going to organize a riot, wouldn't you just... I'd bring some bricks. I'd leave some bricks. And for my riot, yeah. If I was like, look, this is what we're going to do. We're organizing, we're spending all this money to get these college kids to invest in this. Then we're going to bring in Antifa, and they're going to go crazy, and we're handing out masks, and then we're going to leave bricks around. And I also think it's sad because I think that there were definitely legitimate points to be made in R about criminal justice, I think.

1:54:57But boy, was that handled. So they go from that to people setting buildings on fire, and then CNN doing mostly fiery, but mostly peaceful with the famous. It's like, come on, you don't have to defend that. Nobody, people, you look ridiculous. Exactly. But then it got completely bungled. And so in the name of criminal justice reform, now it's like people who are actual violent criminals can be allowed out easier. Nobody wanted that. So then now that Pendulum's going to swing in the other direction, where it's going to be even more law in order, and it's going to be, like you said, it's going to be rights at stake, civil liberties at stake, which is what this was supposed to be all about to begin with.

1:55:42Well, this is the ultimate goal of, again, I'm not saying this is happening, but this would be the ultimate goal of a communist dictatorship. You cause chaos, you step in to stop the chaos, you install new rules to make sure that there's no more chaos anymore. You protect, you cause a problem, you bring up a solution, that solution allows you to gain more control, and you just keep doing it. You keep doing it until you have ultimate control over the people. Yeah, and I'm not saying it's happening either, but in general, it's moving that way. In general, the fear is used by the government a lot.

1:56:14Right. It's really, I mean, even going back to talking about war, and national security, and we need to do this next thing, you know, I mean, look at the Patriot Act. I mean, people were like, you will have to be able to protect you, doing this banning TikTok, all these things, and you look into what they're really doing, and the power that it would really give them. It's like, oh, this isn't about really just banning TikTok. What did Kamala Harris say recently about Elon Musk and Twitter having to follow the same rules as Facebook? Yeah, what did she say? Yeah, what did she say? I don't know, I didn't hear it.

1:56:45What did she say? Something about how Elon's going to have to follow the same rules. Like, that's Facebook. That's so free. That's so free. What rules? Yeah, yeah. Hey, and also, didn't Mark Zuckerberg just come out with a statement saying that he regretted giving in to the government's request to take down COVID -19 information? Yeah. And then, and then, and then, the laptop story. He just came out with like, there was a big statement. Yeah. Because for a lot of people, they were really furious about it.

1:57:24So this cómo can be very far away. Do you hear Commonview's column about that information? was signed out? Councilor Mc herkes. I got a one I'm looking for the video I'm seeing is like 20 within the last 24 hours post -save acclaim this false Right, but that is not what we were talking about though. We were talking about something slightly different Let me see if I could find it for you. She would have shut down X. No, no, no, no, no, no I'm not saying that she said she would shut it down What I'm saying is that she was saying that why should Twitter not have to follow the same rules that are being followed by Facebook right what I typed in was Kamala Harris Twitter rules so that's the videos that were popping up and I'm sending it to you right now Jamie.

1:58:23This is what I'm looking for Okay, so I need to know what she's referring to here, but like listen to this statement. Yeah, I think this is from that Go ahead and play. Let's see what it says So she's probably talking about Trump being on Twitter is that what it is? She's talking to Jake Tapper, so right That you can't say that you have one rule for Facebook and you have a different rule for Twitter The same rule has to apply which is that there has to be a Responsibility that is placed on these social media sites to understand their power They are directly speaking to millions and millions of people without any level of Oversight or regulation and that has to stop okay right away.

1:59:07Yeah, there's no way to misconstrue that What is that mean oversight and regulation for free speech is ridiculous? Yeah, just that just that alone. There's no way to misconstrue that right when she was saying is what I was thinking she was saying She was saying they she wants government oversight and regulation for social media. Mm -hmm. That's crazy It's crazy for anyone to want it because if the only reason you want it right is because you will you you agree with the ideological bent of the platform wait until someone else is in charge of it or wait until there's a different government in charge It's also saying that the very thing that Mark Zuckerberg regrets.

1:59:43Yeah Should be happening. Mm -hmm. Like she's essentially saying why should they have different rules for Facebook than they do for Twitter Mm -hmm like what rules like what rules we don't have rules. We have first amendment rights of free speech I think it actually is even crazy that he's admitting that you know, I mean good for him Absolutely, but try to say something pretty scary for him He said that if he finds out that he interfered with the election He's gonna be in jail for the rest of his life. That's pretty scary That's pretty fucking scary because it's very likely that he might wind up being the president And if he winds up being the president they started investigating this stuff if I was Mark Zuckerberg I'd be pretty fucking freaked out by that statement because It is election interference for sure whoever was running Twitter who gave in to the FBI's request to take down the Hundred -Botten laptop story they definitely interfered with the way people voted Because if people found out that that laptop was legitimate and all that stuff was true There there's a certain percentage.

2:00:39I don't know what the number is But there's a certain percentage of people that were maybe on the fence And that could have influenced their vote one way or another and it would could have given Trump fuel Because he could have been talking about it see I told you that this was real and they've been lying And it would also prove that Biden lied during the debates I don't understand how anybody didn't think it was real though because Hunter never even denied like he was When all those people signed that letter All those intelligence people 51 signed it guess who didn't sign it under Biden Right that's what I thought from them.

2:01:13I was like okay if that was me And someone was saying there was a laptop going around of me, you know Doing all this shit banging all these people on camera and smoking all these drugs I'd be like that I would be in like that was not me I would be like you know that'd be pretty important for me to come out and say that if it happened today You could claim it was a i easy. Yeah, well that's out there with everybody me included sadly forever forever Yeah, and not only that it's gonna change and get way more complex and there's nothing you can do about it Because you knock it down. It's like whack a mole.

2:01:45It's like then there's another one then there's another one There's nothing to do about that But that you know with all this stuff this talk like that whatever she was saying right there is not what you want to hear from someone No, you don't you don't want to hear they're gonna censor social media talking specifically about Senator Warren talking about banning president Trump's account and that was her response to it Yeah, but she was also talking about oversight she talked about oversight very specifically and clearly yeah It has the quote right here Yeah, and what's the rule that she's talking about the same rule should apply which there has to be a responsibility that is placed on these social media sites to understand their power They are directly speaking to millions of millions of people without any level of oversight or Regulation and that has to stop.

2:02:30That's all you need to hear like that right there is not something you want to hear from someone who respects the first amendment That's not how it's supposed to be also who's there? It's just a collection of people not only that if you're talking about oversight and regulation Are you talking about the exact same people that we're trying to get Twitter and successfully did get Twitter to take down The other Biden laptops story and making it impossible to share that video saying that it was misinformation when it was not and if you don't do anything to correct And to hold people responsible that pushed out that misinformation and no one's punished for it and there's no retribution There's no there's no repercussions at all right like what are you saying then then what are you saying?

2:03:09It's okay if your side says things that aren't true and you can regulate in a way that's not based on fact or reality But based on a result that you want to take place and that's fine So we then we don't have freedom of speech No, of course not and then then then you're talking nonsense. It's talking crazy talking Maybe she believed it was real back then maybe she believed it was real Who knows maybe she believed it was important that the got but if you got a hold of the Twitter files And you see what Michael Shellenberger and Matt Taiyee bee and all those people that went through that stuff of the fine Toothcomb the stuff that they found out should make you realize like no you can't have the government tell you what you can It can't say no they don't always tell the truth they're often influenced Sometimes you have rogue actors you probably have one or two people that's responsible for making the call to Facebook or to Twitter So it's on them.

2:03:57It's on these people with whatever fucking influence that they have and whatever people are talking to them behind the scenes You can't have that kids bad for everybody Yeah, and the just the idea that there's certain information that's misinformation is just the government government sanctioned information No, but they can't even let you debate it They want to stop it as soon as they want you to stop it the only solution to bad information is good information Of course, that's how it's supposed to be if they want to stop you from saying something And then it turns out that what you were saying was true No one should trust them ever again.

2:04:30There should be some sort of a come -upence and there's no come -upence There's no discussion of it. It's never talked about It's just plowed on through and we move on to the next thing with no acknowledgement at all that you guys Fucking bullshit at us and lied to us for years And now you want to control social media to stop lies and the lab leak theory is one that really I mean people's careers Were destroyed over being like maybe this virus came from this lab full of viruses It was found right outside us and they were like you fucking crazy. Yes You should but it was only because certain information was seen as acceptable and sanctioned and certain information was seen as not What's way creepy than that?

2:05:10Of course, it's actually suppressing it. No, I get it There's a business behind it and they use their money and their influence and their control the media to fuck you You got bullshitted you got bullshitted by business and business They got together with media and they all had a plan. What do you playing? What do you watch over there? More bullshit. It's just there's so much bullshit, but also less bullshit If you think about overall because there's way more truth now, right? Like you get way more independent journalism than we've ever had Yeah access to in the history of the human race and you get so much of it So you get all this media propaganda and mainstream bullshit But on top of that you get a lot of Jimmy doors you get a lot of independent people that are telling the truth You get the Glenn Green walls you get the Matt Taibis All these people that are just telling you Michael Shellenburgers telling Barry Weiss telling you what the fuck is actually going on and not attached to some large corporation Yeah, but it's also saying the government is the only one that's allowed to be wrong Right because if what they say is misinformation turns out to be true as was so many things that's okay Right, but it's not just wrong.

2:06:24You were lying of course. Of course like foul cheaping like oh, we made up six feet Like yeah, we didn't really know it's just actively lying. Yes, absolutely There's a difference between being wrong about something and just lie and then getting truth removed You know and shaming doctors from Stanford and Harvard and making them out to be cooks Some of the people that were the top of their field yeah, and they had dissenting opinions because they're experts Yeah, and they're watching this bullshit go down by bureaucrats and they're like you mother fuckers and people say what you do Just stay home that drove me nuts.

2:06:56I feel like how can you say that when you're still at work When you're still at work, right? I mean, I was lucky to still have my job Yeah, and people had to shut down even New York's not the same anymore as used to be because all a lot of these businesses closed down forever What made New York so special was a lot of those small businesses restaurants things like that They can't afford to be open and just I have customers for that long So now a lot of that's like Dunkin Donuts Are you seeing the difference in New York with the spike of immigrants? I haven't released I don't go outside that much There was some recent statistic about the percentage of violent crimes robberies and assaults that were created by Migrants illegal immigrants that are in New York right now Yeah, I'm not familiar with that.

2:07:41I mean, I also truly don't go any like I go to work in my apartment That's pretty much I was gonna read the article, but I saved it. See if you can find it though Because I thought it'd be an interesting thing to talk about like at what point in time like I know that Eric Adams the the mayor is like stop coming here go somewhere else and Kathy Holtchol's like get out of here go somewhere else But you still have a sanctuary city and you still are paying them to stay there Well, that's the thing that gets me is I'm somebody if you are non -violent You want to come contribute to our economy then I think you should be welcome to do so But the incentives where you're paying for things here does the immigrants It's on New York post migrants flooding New York City justice system making up 75 % of arrest in Midtown as pathetic sanctuary city laws handcuffs cops Yeah, I saw this thing where someone was complaining to these cops about someone doing something illegal and they say we can't arrest them because This is a sanctuary city and they're migrants.

2:08:36So like they Yeah, you can just do wild it was somewhere in Colorado So like you could just do wild things and no one could do anything because you're in a sanctuary city And I it's I think it's terrible. I think it should be very simple I think that if you want to come contribute to the economy and you're non -violent you should be free to do so I don't think we should be paying people. I mean to come over to the cities. What do you think they're doing? Yeah, that's what they're doing. What do you think they're doing? The why do you think they're doing it this way? I mean like there's many explanations.

2:09:03There's a bunch of conspiracies and then there's also the idea of people We're not wanting to sound not wanting to be called xenophobic Yeah, but if you not want to be called xenophobic doesn't mean you have an open border The idea of just completely abandon any idea of security concerns Yeah, I think it could be more I It's sad because there are people who want to come here and work and should be able to and have problems They can't come here But then there's people who just It's not even the problem you don't even blame the come here you get a free this you get free that for you place to stay Why wouldn't these people all come right do you think they're bringing them in here to buy votes though?

2:09:39I don't I have I'm not convinced the most interesting one. I'm not convinced by that Well Nancy Pelosi was on Bill Mar and she was talking about Providing a path for them to all be citizens And that's what she wants to do make them documented document them I know a lot of people from these countries conservative though What depends on which countries from Cuba for sure there's definitely people who are also conservative But the thing is most people look out for the best interest and you can buy them I mean if you're the party that let them through and gave them money and allowed them to establish a foothold in America And now their families here and they're doing much better Well, you would definitely vote Democrat because they're the people that hooked you up That just seems like a natural human incentive without even having to bribe them to do it If you're giving them loans and helping them get houses and making it so they can vote and giving them a clear path the citizenship That seems like if I came here from Guatemala and I didn't know a lot about a political system or the people that hooked me up I'd stick with them So you probably are going to get a higher percentage of those people that if you can ever do this and create a path with these people who are illegal immigrants and get Enter into the country illegally can get a quick path to you would have a lot more voters a lot You know a lot.

2:10:52I mean it doesn't seem it sounds crazy to say But it doesn't seem crazy to try if you're trying to figure out a way that you can win and win in the future like almost every time Wouldn't you like just bring in voters? I mean, I've heard I've obviously heard the argument before I'm not su - I'm just not I'm not super convinced by it I think that there's a many other things that plan to it but in general my problem is with The extremely large welfare state in general and where the money goes and how bad the government is at spending money I mean because it's it it's also Same thing is California's in New York.

2:11:25I mean, there's so much money spent wasn't a Bloomberg or excuse me Deplosios wife that was in charge of like the homeless Mental health initiative. You want to miss in a bunch of money? It's like I'm sitting there. I use living Hudson yards and my husband and I are sitting in at this We've since moved but we're seeing that we looking down in the park watching like some dude get a blowjob from you know some Crackhead blowing someone else and it's like I feel like the there's a lot still going on here with this Mental what's my money all going right in general and I feel like with You know immigration.

2:11:59I think also the two sides. There's a lot of incentives that people get from politically Yeah, you know well the dreamers labor. Here's the thing about cheap labor and this is what Tim Dylan's been saying He said he's like he thinks they're bringing in cheap illegal labor and that's way Construction businesses like if you kicked out all the illegal immigrants He was like a lot of construction businesses. I fucked yeah, they be fucked and he said There's a lot of people that don't want those jobs anymore and they're sneaking in people to fill those jobs He thinks that's part of it and that makes sense But you ever see that documentary while while country?

2:12:35It's fucking great. It's on netflix and it's all about this cult that Put together this compound in like the Pacific Northwest And one of the things they did is they brought in homeless people by the buses They found all these homeless people you can be a part of our community and these homeless people get there like wow Finally have a place and I belong these people were all psyched They belong to this community and then they voted so they took over the whole town by busing in voters So they brought in these vote they just grabbed homeless people from everywhere and they integrated into the community That's a South Park that they had them they had them vote, but they really did yeah They had this is like in the 80s or 90s so they had them vote and what year was that?

2:13:14What year would do that take place it might be the 2000s anyway had them vote and then once they took over the town They kicked all the homeless people out get the bug out of here and the homeless people like oh thought you loved me I thought it was a part of the team and these people like for once in their life They had direction they had meaning they're a part of a community They're trying to get off the dope they're feeling better about themselves chanting and really believing all this thing These people are talking about and they really just used them. They're political ponds. Yeah, what's the same thing is We remember the how the dream act the dreamers was like such a big deal when Trump said he was gonna remove the protections and but then Okay, so why have they not been protected now?

2:13:51So why has there been no bill that they've said if everybody cares so much people they don't care That's like that that's like my overarching believe is just that politics. They just don't care about you That it makes you people fight in their real life with people on the behalf of people who that don't even care you exist They can't they can't care there's too many people I mean just imagine wanting that job first of all no, I can't and then imagine like the stress of how is Trump doing it at 78 years old Like how's he dealing with the stress of doing this no like and he's doing podcasts and it's like He's on a podcast with the you but he could podcast with you is amazing.

2:14:29Yeah, he did one with Lex yesterday So it's just like how do you have the energy to keep the fuck that job? I would never And how can you you can care as much as you want about you could try to care But there's so many things to care about yeah, there's so much going on and everything's a fucking fire Everything's on fire the economy's on fire international relations on fire the economy I went I mean I went and got uh two coffees and two shitty exam witches with my husband the other night shitty ones you know the ones that are pre -made and you just heat him and he it was over $60 What yeah, is that New York City?

2:15:06Yeah fucking get out of it. Why do you why are they doing that work? And that's it why are they but why is fox stupid? I think move their fucking business to kinetic I'm all move anywhere. I'm all about it because that's the only reason I'm there Yeah, go somewhere else and I don't go out right I guess it's fun if like you're you up but when I was there and I was young I was poor right So I never really got now I'm married in pregnant So I'm not really going out right I'm going home into work and live in Long Island because it's too hard to get over that We're making that is we're still renting and I'm making that decision like do we like buy a house somewhere But then I'm in Jersey, but then you get takes you an hour to get to work exactly if you leave it six in the morning Exactly one of those deals.

2:15:43Yeah, right? Well, which is worse? It's it's hard and if you want to do stand up god damn it You kind of have to be in the city like it's so hard to do set unless you're single and free like when I lived in New Rochelle I I lived in New Rochelle because I couldn't afford to live in the city at the time and I was doing a lot of road gigs I needed a car I needed a parking spot and if I lived in the city a parking spot was like 500 bucks a month or something like that was crazy Yeah half of my rent for a spot to put my car I had to have a fucking car So I used to have to drive into city to go and do spots So do spots in the city I have to pay to park I'd always lose money I never made any money if I lived in the city and just hopped around the subway and took cabs I could have made a living doing stand up in the city, but I had to do road gigs in order to just make a living Just to be able to do sets in the city.

2:16:31Yeah, no, and I've just started going you know Getting into going back up just around the city again And just like oh, what am I doing this weekend? Hey, can I get a spot at this place? Cuz I quit stand up three times now. I'm back at it. It's you can't really ever quit it. I feel like some people can I don't think I could quit it If I you know I quit it during I could I quit it during COVID for like eight months And I was thinking why I was quitting it well while you know, I was like who knows if this is ever gonna happen again I was thinking I'm okay Like I love it. I really love stand up. It's fun.

2:17:01I love comedian like stand hopes at the best He's like I could quit comedy, but I couldn't quit comedians. Yeah, which is like totally right It's like the hang is like it's too. They're too fun to hang with they're too fun to be silly with Everyone knows there's no boundaries everyone's being hilarious everyone like last night We're in the green room with Brian Simpson came up with this new bit and everybody's like given it like he said this thing It was really fun. I go dude. That's a bit. He's like you think so I'm like fuck yeah And then he hit it with another tagline and then somebody else jumped in then he had another tagline It's like he created this bit right in front of you And it was like oh I can't wait to go on stage to tell that I was like whoo Like those kind of moments those are the most fun moments and I think only comics are gonna appreciate that You know, no one else is gonna understand what even just happened that guy just has a bit There's not only just a bit, but it's a route of what's gonna be a real chunk of material Yeah, he's just started off with this hilarious premise that has a few really good taglines and then four months from now That's gonna probably a closing bit.

2:18:01You know, it's like one of those deals. It's like I can't stop hanging out with those people It's too fun. Oh, it's too fun, but I mean for me I quit a few times and I quit most recently also during covid and then when I wrote the first book I started doing a live show with in their slides involved every slide as a punchline and then Next thing you know, I'm going up around the city now doing just like stand up as well in addition to my live shows But now it's pretty much I'm gonna have no time to just do my my shows and then got felt five days a week and the baby Growing the baby. What do you do need speed?

2:18:32I'm telling you I'm telling you, but it's you know, they don't let you well they do they fact that they would let me take it I was like Yeah, fuck that because if there was ever anything wrong with the baby I'd be like that was my fault right right right That was my fault for taking am fat. I mean throwing my pregnancy. Yeah, yeah, fuck that So I thought I'd be honestly I thought when I I thought I'd be more scared of having and I am scared I have no idea what I'm doing, but I've also just been like too tired Yeah, which is kind of nice right that probably like eases some of the anxiety I think you need a nap.

2:19:07Yeah exactly. Once you have the baby then you're gonna need a lot of naps Yeah, baby brain is real in the beginning you think you're like out of it now when you don't get any sleep And the baby's up and then you gotta like take turns like you you're you're gonna be like sleep to pry for several months Yeah, at least at least I mean I I vote it's crazy because only recently if I accepted that this baby's gonna like live in my apartment I bet you're gonna want to get out of there you yeah, I'm sure yeah, you're gonna want to get a house You're gonna want to be somewhere safer and quieter somewhere with outside Yeah, somewhere where you kid can play.

2:19:43Yeah, baby can't play on the balcony It's just I just you know, I have friends who raised their whole families in New York City like kids from baby all the way to grown up And those kids are different they're a little sad That's I worried I don't want to have to explain to my toddler dude like jerking off on a street corner with a needle in his arm They know too much I don't want to have to I mean the stuff that you see just And it's not as bad as it was during Colvin who's crazy people were shooting up all over the place not as bad But still I mean when people are using the streets as like race tracks Oh, it was not crashing cars because there was no one on the street So people were going like 150 miles an hour down Broadway There was I when I live in Hudson yards also during Chloe There was a dude out of chick bent over a car fucking her and the daytime In the daytime and he was like howling he was like wow And I'm looking around and there's nobody nobody's doing anything You know what he wanted to do no right like nobody wants to be in the splash zone Nobody wants to go anywhere near any of all the terrible things is growing on is that that bad?

2:20:43You know, I mean they're not doing anything when someone smashes windows I would I would be upset if that were my car When the blasio let those people have those smashing grabs and was telling them to like get it out of their system Remember that yeah, that that was the strategy just let the riots burn themselves out and don't arrest anybody like What are you fucking doing? Well no personal property that's calm that's some communist share too It was great. It was just it didn't make any sense It was all failed leftist philosophies from like the 1960s that nobody really believes it in practice and they're they've never worked You can't just let people fucking smash and grab things you're gonna destroy the fabric of society You're gonna so many people are gonna be indoctrinated into looting and stealing that maybe have never done that before if you have these mask group If you have like these mass groups of people that Break into a mall and 200 people how many of those people have ever done anything like that before probably a lot haven't and now Also then they have and they do it multiple times then it becomes a normalized thing Yeah, I realized there's no you've you've created a real fucking problem Well, you feel dumb for not stealing at a certain point, you know It's like why am I still paying for this shit, but you can't I can't buy anything at a store I have to get like essentials toiletries types shit you have to just get it online you can't go to a store in New York Because it's all you there's no one working there There's a few employees you got to press the button every time you need something everything's locked up Bert Krescher went viral today because I think bright part put a video of his because he went through a right aid I saw someone commenting on that though that right it's going out of business and that story is like one of the ones It's closing where people can make it their amphetamines, but you know why they're going out of business because they got looted Yeah, everything's locked up.

2:22:24I see what you're saying, but if it doesn't make sense that they're going out of business So they locked up everything no, they locked up everything because people are stealing like crazy because they they passed a fucking law Where anything under nine hundred dollars or whatever it was they weren't allowed to arrest you So people just run in and throw the odor in fucking hair To place everything throw everything in a bag and walk right out the door and no one could do a goddamn thing about it Video showing deserted right aids bear shelves after bankruptcy goes viral. Is this Bert? Look at Bert my viral Bert so happy he's never gonna stop doing this now.

2:22:57He's gonna go to every right there is Bert Krescher who showcased the empty shelves incorrectly Attributing them to theft incorrectly First of all It's the reason why they're locked up go show the video so is this show the video because the you want me to send it to you Okay, okay, because Saying saying that that's that's cookie to say that's really cookie to say falsely attributing then the theft or is this one maybe Look at this. There's our deodorants look everything's locked up But that I think this is empty this so this is probably is going on a business Yeah, and I guess these just come in and take whatever's expensive And but I think this is going on a business because it's not locked up.

2:23:45Yeah, this is this is incorrect Classic person so I thought these were locks lock boxes Okay, where's wrong, but he's not wrong because the reason why they go down a business is because they've been looted So like they they've abandoned several Major cities, right? They've moved out of like a lot of businesses have moved out of San Francisco a lot of businesses have moved out LA For a very specific reason because of these loot. Yeah, like this is real like what what? Compt what companies have pulled stores Because of the after effect of looting Let's find out. Yeah, I mean, I know they have an Oakland.

2:24:28I think they have in San Francisco Let's google Drug stores what drug stores have pulled out of San Francisco I think it's Walgreens wall So what's the difference in Walmart and Walgreens? I mean Walgreens drugs The big place that have but they have drugs there too, right? Yeah, but they don't find a thing they can hang in there. Yeah, they They're an institution and The next three years 9 % of them are wait it then close six in San Francisco including five throughout downtown on one of business Yeah, drug stores Drug stores used to be like the most profitable fucking business you could own yeah, and now they're like we're just getting robbed Yeah, well, I mean I So birds kind of right.

2:25:17He's not right why those shelves are empty at that moment because they're they're going out of business But that's why they're going out of business Well, those would be locked up because they need to Nordstrom half of the retailers free fleeing downtown San Francisco Well because brick and mortar wasn't doing that well to begin with because people are buying shit online And then you just let people go people were going to store because you can steal it So crazy You can feel it they want society to collapse like allowing stuff like that and not making corrective measures to make these retailers feel comfortable So they stay in your community without doing anything to save them and letting them pull out and not making any corrective measures Is so nuts?

2:25:56It yeah, it is nuts, but it's it's nothing's changed. I mean I can't New York stuff has been locked up forever now Right, but this is a new thing is what I'm saying like this is not this didn't exist in the year 2000 He never saw this so in the last 24 years all of a sudden it's began a thing that people are looting stores on a regular basis To the point where they have to move out of cities because there's no correction in the way they enforce the laws Well, it's also not going to change right like New York. It's not going to have the Republicans not going to win New York They might I know it could get sideways enough for a Republican of Rudy Giuliani type character can get in there That depends on how much they have the system rigged But I think there's a real possibility that someone could reach a or some conservative Democrat, you know some Yeah, the line order Democrat that's possible.

2:26:41Yeah, you can have one of those But it's gonna have to people are just gonna have to get fed up and The problem is if they don't get fed up and they keep voting for the same thing like they seem to do in California in a lot of other places They're never gonna change. It's just gonna keep getting worse and I don't understand that it's like How much do you love your ideology where you don't realize that they're fucking your life up? Yeah, I don't know. I mean it's and because I think I mean I just have no hope I don't think it's gonna get any better. I don't know. I mean you hope yeah, I do I have faith in people I really do I think we come really close to fucking up a lot and we pull ourselves out of the ashes And I think there's been if you just follow the course of our society over the last hundred years There's been a lot of ups and downs.

2:27:28There was prohibition. There was World War one World War two Vietnam There's a lot of things where it looked like society was over Kent State. Oh my god. What's going on Martin Luther King gets shot JFK gets shot. There's a lot of like terrible moments and then things got better and then things You know, it's always if you look on a chart. There's always cut generally speaking over time There's less crime less problems the economy does a little bit better Everybody this is cost of living changes because like you're your The way you live your life improves overall generally I think if you look at like a thousand years to today.

2:28:07It's obvious. There's a clear path It's just like gotta make sure that whatever Dip we're in right now we correct Yeah, I mean I have all the things that we're doing wrong It doesn't mean you can't do all the good things that like progressive people want to do and in terms of like funding education and helping people get over drug addiction and homelessness all those things should be funded Like it's a good idea to have more healthy Happy people in our society But also you can't rob the store You can't you shouldn't just be able to sneak in across the border because terrorists are a real thing You can't you can't rob a store and then also just with letting people I mean violent criminals out is another thing where it's like dude Nobody wants this It's crazy nobody wants this person who is can you know has this violent violent history to be out on the streets except really super progressive D .A .s who think that the criminal justice system is inherently racist.

2:29:02I think there's plenty of things wrong with the criminal justice system I don't think anybody should go to prison for for drug. I think drugs should be legal. I think all drugs should be legal I think for sure But I think that that's different than saying crimes with people who have committed crimes with victims should be allowed to go Crew more victims right the thing about drugs is already illegal So if drugs were legal all the negative aspects of drugs other than addiction and overdose are already illegal People that do math and break into a house because they need money for more math like that's already illegal You know exactly exactly and the problem with drugs being illegal is the same problem they have with prohibition during the You know the 19 whatever was 30s in this country wait wait here was it when alcohol We're exactly here was like seven or eight years right where alcohol was illegal?

2:29:51But what what year did it end? It ended a couple of years before they made marijuana illegal Which is hilarious because it's a complete shift Yeah, literally took the people that were chasing marijuana alcohol they chased him after marijuana 1920s all 13 years. Yeah, that's not 13. Yeah, people were still boozing Of course they're just dying But it also my point was that it pumped up organized crime That's where alcohol and got rich and all these people got rich. They're bootleggers boon chinners Well, that's the that's where NASCAR comes from yeah, and that's the main reason why a lot of people point to you know Look at this place where it's decriminalized it didn't work It's like well that's decriminalized not legalized a and you don't have to have all these other things too But a lot of the places look it didn't work in Portland whether it decriminalized because Portland was already in a fucked up shit a lot of it Yes exactly you Portland needed rule they needed Jesus Jesus should have come to Portland and sorted that place out But instead they got like just do whatever you want man And then of course they're already addicted to drugs So they're just gonna do more drugs But if you look at what they did with Portugal that had a profound effect you look at there's countries that have decriminalized drugs And it's been very beneficial But You're always still buying them from criminals because even when it's decriminalized It's not legal to sell them and profit from them, but it is legal to sell Adderall It is you know, it's like we're in a screw ball Fucked up world where we have things that we've accepted as being okay just because they're grandfathered in it So fucked up and then other things like weed for which is the best example But other things like psychedelics like psychedelics and so many benefits to psychedelics And also just so many Comparative to alcohol and what that does to people versus not really Benefits if any It but you can be like I could fucked up drink whenever It's all five it's everywhere But but psychedelics or you can go to jail It's all dumb and it doesn't make any sense if you don't want to prop up the organized crime Because there's a reason why the cartels worth billions and billions and billions of dollars It's because of us because we have drugs really go and they bring the drugs over and sell it to us And that's how they make money and if you don't want to fix that just say it Just say it because if you want to fix it There's only one way to do it and the one way to do it is to regulate it in house like make it make it in America Regulated in America and then use a responsible portion of that for treatment a lot of that treatment Which should include psychedelics So if you want to make things legal and then set up iBegin clinics everywhere I bet you would get a lot of clean people that would ordinarily have a problem But i bet cat was still be taking nicotine I still i mean i still like nicotine have a fat.

2:32:26I mean, but I think especially with with You know with veterans mental health But just really for anybody who wants to do it even for fun. I think it should be allowed But I mean victims of violent crime There's a lot of people that have had profound release and and Just something that allows them to move on past the death of a loved one There's certain people that get devastated by things and psychedelics have helped them in tremendous ways And they just denied The the FDA just denied you know maps has run this long term study on MDMA and you know now they have to go through more studies And it's very unfortunate because people have benefited tremendously from that kind of therapy Yeah, and i mean if you look at With with veterans it's like you send them over to these wars and you know a lot of people don't come back normal From that which how could you expect them to come back?

2:33:20And people love to say support the troops support the troops They don't think about what that really means And it's because the because it can look a little uglier a little more complicated than just you know saying that or wearing like a flag pin on your suit And i think in general when it comes to mental health We've never like talked about mental health more But people are struggling because we have such a little leeway for people who are going through a mental health crisis If you make a mistake that mistake defines you Well, there's not just that there's So limited resources in terms of how to deal with your mental problem If you're not allowing people to use psychedelics and you you're deciding and most of the people that are deciding are also people that have an experience like Adelix right which is really crazy yes, it's really crazy Well, that's the government they're legislating things they don't understand like literally yeah It especially in nests regard absolutely i completely agree if you really wanted to help the troops You would give them access to that stuff because there's been a lot of people that have had tremendous results So i'm saying it's going to work for everybody.

2:34:21It's not a cure all it's not a panacea But it's a tool it's a tool in the toolbox and we need a lot of tools Which is a lot of people out there that are hurting oh yeah, oh yeah, I He a huge huge supporter of that We have to argue about this in 2024 I know with all the information that we have now on the internet And all the people that have had to go to Costa Rica and have these retreats and come back and be cured of Opia addiction and all these problems that they've had and we're still like More tests more tests, but here's some fentanyl more tests But here take your oxies more to more tests, but you need speed I you should be able to make that choice and I mean it's a psychedelic sir just oh huge huge huge benefit I mean, I'm I'm a huge I'm a huge believer in that actually well.

2:35:08I'm a believer in freedom Yes, I'm a believe him I'm a I'm a big believer in a person a human being should not be able to tell another human being What they can and cannot do with their life and their body if it doesn't hurt anybody else exactly and In my mind psychedelics fall into that area and if there's no benefit no objective benefit The why are all these people enthusiasts? Why are all these people doing it? Why are all these people talking about profound experiences and how much it's benefited them and the people that are saying that you can't do it Have you done it? Do you know what the fuck you're talking about and if you don't Probably you shouldn't be the one deciding on this yeah absolutely Yeah, people decide the more freedom you have the better it is for everybody But you know, they're worried about the whole system getting like 1960'd again, you know like tune in turn on drop out all that crazy shit That was going on when people became flower children.

2:35:59Yes, but also so what yeah But is that is homelessness better if you had a hundred thousand hippies in LA Just like selling flowers in the street would that be worse? Yeah, I think that psychedelic I mean psychedelics. I think it can be beneficial for people who have trauma but also for just anybody If you want to be able to experience that then you should be free to experience that yeah And if it was legal you'd be able to find out who can and cannot take it Yes, because there's some people the hoist screw loose and something goes And you know they eat mushrooms and also they you know the thing they can fly like people get it little nutty And certain people don't come back especially acid.

2:36:39I've heard some acid stories. Yeah, I didn't come back Yeah, but I mean of course you hear stories about everything But you don't know until you run studies until you when when things are legal And you allow people to run these studies and you come up with effective dosages You find out what people are allergic to which is chemical reaction that people have Maybe certain medications that you shouldn't cross with it right yeah, but yeah Like it'd be to your point. It's like you've never heard a story about someone doing alcohol and going badly Or someone doing pharmaceuticals and then going badly if you want I mean I think the gym I mean this is what a huge tool to be able to diminish the ego in a person And what an amazing life changing thing that can be yeah And to say you can't do that because I said so it's crazy to an adult to an adult And the person who's telling you is uninformed Mm -hmm.

2:37:28They've never tried it. They know what they're talking about and there's no real right There's no real rational If you if you could just have a conversation with a person not like a debate not in front of congress like this Just you and me for hours. Let's just sit down for hours and you tell me why you think that psychedelics should be Prohibited yeah for all adults you tell me why and I'm gonna tell you why I think they should not I'm gonna ask you some questions of what do you think they do and then you would get a sense over the course Of a couple of hours talking to this person this person has no fucking business telling people what they can and can't take Yeah, they're just bureaucrats.

2:38:01They're just bureaucrats and they know that there's a certain There's a certain amount of people that are gonna it's gonna benefit them to vote in a certain way and State a certain opinion and there's a certain amount of vested interests a certain amount of special interest groups That would like them to continue to vote in a very specific way and that's that's their god That's who they that's who they go with yeah, there's nothing to do with what's good for everybody No, no, and if people just it It's they just have this framework of like well that's that's a crazy thing that's bad drugs are bad those are bad I can't you get that's crazy can't do that And then people who have had experience with them might feel differently, but that doesn't matter It's a sign of a success.

2:38:42I think it's in the people who have experienced with them are people who do drugs. Yeah Right and those people never want to be president Isn't it ironic you would want the president to like to do much room something At least some sort of a psychedelic experience one time to just connect with God real quick Come back and go yeah, I think we can do better, you know I think it would be better if more politicians did mushrooms It probably would but they probably get less politicians. They probably just quit. They'd be like I don't want to do this job Yeah, you know, I mean to be or to be able to person who can just gaslight 250 million people on a regular basis like you have to be out of your mind like you have to be really a crazy person To stand in front of people and lie about the economy and lie about job numbers and lie about this and lie about that Like that's the most unpsychedelic perspective ever.

2:39:31Yeah It's the worst it's the most unpsychedelic job. I would say White House press secretary. Yeah You're a professional bullshit. Yeah, exactly It is soothing everything over and making everything seem normal and making it seem like they've done an amazing job and everything's under control For the sake of just this is the whole upholding the system. Yeah, and it's just psychedelics make you think you know They make you realize also that you're gonna die in a good way right because the things you worry about in your life Feel a little bit less ridiculous When you are more familiar with your mortality like oh, we're kind of just all here We're all people and we're able to do things to your consciousness to see things differently So that that just makes you view things differently and I think that what's healthier than that and like you said It's not for everybody.

2:40:21There's people who definitely yeah, they can't do it. Things can go badly regular life is too fucked for them Right regular reality is too slippery. They shouldn't be doing anything Those people need some other kind of help and I don't know what that help is I'm not a psychiatrist, but I do know that for a lot of people they're beneficial You know, I know a lot of people shouldn't drink and but yeah Alcohol is legal and you know and all these things are things that we need to learn and the only way we learn them is if we have access to them Yeah, we know what the real benefits actually are and what the real risks actually are We know what the real risks of Jack Daniels are it's like there's a long history of people drinking themselves to death to death Yeah, and not only that but killing other people Yeah, like getting behind the wheel drive.

2:41:01Oh, yeah, I mean just alcohol just getting beat up in the street because you're a fucking drunk and you mouth off to somebody Yeah, now you're in the hospital with a broken skull like there's so many detrimental side effects to alcohol But yeah, no one is saying we should make alcohol illegal. No, could you imagine if that was their next pitch? Yeah, we prohibition We need to bring it back But if they say it with weed everybody Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's the way safer drug Yeah, it's way safer. Yeah way safer way it makes everybody a lot more peaceful It's way less violent you also don't hear people waxing poetic.

2:41:39I mean myself included I'm not gonna say here and be like well what alcohol can do right all these real I mean can it be fun to get drunk? Sometimes yeah, I guess but it's it's like the next day I'm never like man. I'm so glad that I drank all that booze that really just opened my eyes to think no It's it's no well. How calls the perfect example of no biological free lunch. Yeah, yeah rush that fun time You feel when you're lit like whoo you're so For me, it's the emotional like everybody hates me Everybody it's the opposite of what's like a delus can do. You're like they've gives you some perspective on the world in your place in the world And then alcohol puts the next morning.

2:42:28It's the opposite of that. It's like everyone the world revolves around how mad it all is at me Right, you know what did I do what did I do about some loud stupid shit you say like oh, I'm like Why did I do that? The text thing I'm like what did I say? And then you think and then I think that I am gonna be deposed in a court for some shit I was saying It's way shit that I was saying when I was like to me It's pretty clear which one but but there's only one of them that I could go to jail for doing right It's not it's not it doesn't make any sense. It's also been here before people. Yeah, what are we doing making nature illegal?

2:43:09It's so stupid. Yeah, the whole thing is stupid. It's just and it's stupid And the fact that we still allow it is so crazy and no one's it would have It sounds trivial to people that don't do it right but if you allowed people Control of their conscious and to have consciousness and to have these kind of experiences You'd have a lot more people that are thinking about things and a lot more considerate and careful way And that's what I think the benefit of it is Yeah, even if it's not even maybe you're really not contacting God or aliens whatever it is But just the benefits of having it But I think there's a lot of things that can make people more kind and consider it Like in a very counterintuitive way.

2:43:51I think martial arts do Jiu Jitsu especially they're the nicest people I've ever met like my friends from Jiu Jitsu are the nicest fucking people Because every day they're trying to kill each other and they don't have any of that in regular life There's no chest puffing. There's no douche bagry like people that are like The guys that I know that train three four times a week and a really interested in Jiu Jitsu doing it all the time There's some of the most peaceful calm easygoing Measuring even when they talk to people in confrontations very measured Because they're coming from a place of strength and most men in particular They come from a place of trying to pretend they have strength in order to like intimidate you to get up to get Out like get you on your back foot get you on the heels like fuck you man Like that kind of do she kind of shit is just insecurity And these guys don't have any of that and it's just a healthier like I don't think everybody should do Jiu Jitsu It's too hard don't do it if you don't want it for me But I think there's a lot of things like that in this world.

2:44:57I don't think it's just like a deluxe I think there's multiple I think yoga plays a big factor in that I remember I got in a car accident when I was on yoga when I was on yoga I haven't heard of that one yoga so much we mean R .H. Fear Burke -Krysher and Thompson -Gurah we do the sober October and every time we do sober October We have these things that we do where We're like love a fitness challenge or you have to do I think we had 15 yoga classes in the month So you had to do like a yoga class every other day for a month and I got really into it I was doing it a lot and this guy rear -ended me on the highway and I had a really nice car and he crashed into many He was on his phone he was texting and he was illegal and he didn't he didn't have a driver's license Oh shit what am I saying and I was so calm about it.

2:45:46I was like okay. I was like I'm okay You okay and it's like I'm just gonna take off You know I'm just gonna get my car Just took off luckily he didn't wreck my car. He just bent the back. It was a Porsche It was a 9 -11 GT3 a very nice car But his car get a little bullshit car like a little Honda cord and when he slammed on the brakes It basically went under the back of my car and bumped it up in the air and it stalled out and His car was pretty fucked up. He couldn't drive off, but I could drive off So I just drove to the comedy store Yeah, and I was like okay. Why was I so calm about that? I wasn't even mad at that guy I was like he's a illegal alien Excuse me immigrant Whenever he is undocumented Immigrant he just some dude who came from Mexico.

2:46:30Wait. He's not his day. I'm a tough day. I said why don't you have a license? I go he goes I can't because I'm illegal. I said okay. I go but yet you still drive and he goes I have to for work I go I get it. I get it But it was like a very calm. He said you sorry. I believed him It was just a mistake. He fucked up traffic at slow. You know LA traffic like all of a sudden comes to a screeching halt Sometimes people aren't already for it And I really think it was yoga. I think I didn't even get mad at the guy. All right take it easy I just drove away And I thought about it afterwards. I was like why can't it be like that with everything like why like what would help me be like that in every situation to treat every interaction with people like as As calm as possible and never never really get totally upset by anything just it is what it is no big deal I was like man, that's probably a great tool just for society Just for if most people if yoga was a thing that most people did every day in the morning What impact would that have just in the overall population and how nice people are to each other yeah It would probably be huge probably be huge.

2:47:37Yeah, I've never I was raised in a household where yoga was the devil Really? Yeah, the devil my mom was really Catholic. Oh So like it's a spinoid a bad. I mean, I'm not I don't know that's obvious That I'm not Catholic. I know but exactly yeah, but there's something I don't know I I Wanted someone do yoga just take the poses and I'm a little versus yeah, I don't know what some prayers, you know, I am not I am not Catholic I'm not religious at all anymore, which is why I think that I'm always looking for things like I'm always looking for a way to be religious Or in some sense spiritual So I've never done ayahuasca.

2:48:18I really want to do ayahuasca. I've done other things that have been beneficial to me But I'm searching for that thing. I'm searching for that. I want to believe in something Greater than myself. I think that's normal for people right I think that's why a lot of atheists they talk like religious people They they talk about atheism the same way religious people talk about their belief in God that they absolutely know It's true. It's kind of the same thing. They like no, there's nothing. I do not believe in God. I'm not that. I'm not that Yeah, I'm just agnostic. I'm kind of like who am I to say what there is and isn't yeah, I can appreciate that I think there's something going on.

2:48:55Yeah, I think there's something going on that we're a part of that is too big for us to grasp Yeah, I think we're like a hand waving over a fucking earthworm and earthworm has no idea what's going on Because I think it's too big I think just the the idea of this Infinite space that we live in with who knows how many galaxies and we're on this planet and we're making babies and you're cooking Went up inside your body right now and you're going on stage to do it stand up and we're having an election And we might have a nuclear war and all this shit is happening all throughout the universe all over the place Not just here, but probably in an infinite number of planets everywhere the whole thing's too big and for you to say There's no god gods not real.

2:49:35It's like you have no idea You have no idea and by the way the evidence of there being something that's up that's forcing this in a general direction is overwhelming There's something that's foot whether it's some natural properties like a Bret Weinstein calls it Darwinian evolution That it applies to everything and things get better and improve and evolve That yeah, but what is causing that and what made that what what is what is the overall force behind this whole Thing and what's its goal? What's it? It seems to be moving in a general direction all the time and that that direction is like Constant improvement of life forms of societies of technology.

2:50:14It's moving in this fucking direction like How do you know it's not god? How do you know? It's not the way god works? How do you know the universe isn't god? And this is the way it expresses itself. Yeah, the craziest and this is the most normal thing to do is get pregnant But it's the craziest trip I've ever had Like all I did was have sex I didn't pick up a license and now there's gonna be a baby in my apartment Wait to start talking to that baby. That's what's gonna be crazy. This is gonna be a human that's gonna have opinions and it's gonna tell me no Yeah, I'm gonna be like I didn't smoke any fucking six I smoke no six and now you're trying to tell me no I'm gonna be like I should have smoked a pack a day with your ass talking to me like that.

2:50:52Yeah, but then they'll say look I didn't ask to be born. Yeah, exactly. They're gonna find my dude make me stupid bitch You fucking did this it's your fault no matter what the kids gonna find a way to hate you right like that's gonna find a way to I don't I don't know, but it's it's the craziest It's the craziest trip and I think it's also that's part of the reason I'm always like looking for I'm just like looking for meaning I want there to be something so badly right and that's and I think we all do I really do Well, I think that's why it's people like psychedelics. I think that's what I mean Definitely can make you view the world in a different way.

2:51:23Yeah, and then compare it to all the other I mean the worst drug I ever did was Acutane Oh, it maybe want to kill myself. Yeah, this was last summer. I mean, I actually was suicidal like I went off of it Multiple people in my life had that same same situation the way more dangerous drug for me than trumps Acutane. Yeah, I mean Andrew Santino the hilarious comedian talks about it He said it was one of the worst experiences really. Yeah me too. Yeah, my brain I was I finally decided I was crying on the bathroom floor Because I was gonna die and everyone I know is gonna die. Oh my god Again, always been true always been true.

2:51:58My husband found me on the bathroom floor And I stopped taking it and it about a month before it worked out on my system And then I went back to normal, but at that time I was like I've lost myself. I'm never gonna be myself again Whenever you have a medication and one of the side effects is suicidal I know those those ones freak me out because they'll just say it real real calm all these people are holding hands and Spinning around a wheat field suicidal ideation. What yeah? I experienced that I experienced my brain being hijacked in a bad way By a drug for for this I was like I'll just and and and I was you know, you can't drink on it So I was like I was having these extreme reactions stone colds over But I was on the show sometimes and I would be so depressed and people would be email I'm getting emails like you were like acting like a bitch or you're this and that and it's like No, no, no, I want to kill myself.

2:52:49I don't think I'm too good for me, but I want to kill myself And it's just scary. It was very scary Well, I'm glad you got off it. Yes. I'm off -ack you that one. I'm never doing again. Yeah, that one sketchy I really enjoyed talking to you. I really enjoyed talking to you too. Let's do this again Yeah, tell everybody about your book one more time, please. It's called I used to have a copy of it here I have it outside. I left all my shit outside. No worries. It's called I used to let you until it's called I used to like you until um And it is all about how one single thing should not be enough to write another person off It's about independent thinking.

2:53:21It's about connection And I spill a lot of tea on myself in the book because so the point I'm naked on the cover my body looks nothing like this anymore But uh covered in hate mail with the idea of like vulnerability in the face of overwhelming hatred That's great. So I I you know I had the idea of and you read it too. I did really I have a very distinct voice. So it's like God it's not that hard folks do it. I'm talking about a lot of very personal things in the book I want to factor no talking about man she gets some old man to do your voice A British guy our first period Don't worry that's not in the book Well, thank you, Kat.

2:54:06Really appreciate it was love. Thank you. Okay. Bye everybody Bye