#2207 - Shawn Ryan

37:13That's just insane I bet it should be hard to find them, you know Yeah, I mean, it is rallies, you know giant rallies. Yeah in New York. There was 60 ,000 people. That's insane So that's the difference between the common Harris rouse if they're guys tell the truth If they can tell the truth and they really are just sort of manipulating this and putting on theater That's a big difference between what's happening with Trump. Yeah, if he's he got organically got 60 ,000 people to come see him and and freak out in New York It's kind of the media is a monster. It really is it is a it's a it's such an obvious monster such a deceptive Sneaky propagandist monster.

37:53It's it's it's how long do you think the media has left? They'll be around you think so It all depends on who gets into office really it depends on um So the real fear was when they started getting their claws into Twitter The real fear was when the government started suppressing accurate information and Twitter let them do it That's that was scary close So Elon buys Twitter releases the Twitter files Michael Shellenberger Matt Taiibi and all those journalists they all uncover all these different aspects that's super disturbing and totally illegal And they release everything And then Twitter becomes kind of crazy like Twitter's wild now like there's it's just it's totally wow -wow West unregulated and then the we got Jamie This is it Yeah Okay, one of the five known teams hunting president Trump before Butler, Pennsylvania attempt was Ukrainian so this is Matt gates talking about this But I think that if that hadn't happened so if all of social media remained like staunch leftist left wing Just giving completely into whatever propaganda the government wants to give them Regarding vaccines or or Ukraine or anything else with no critical Arguments about it that are accepted they just anybody who doesn't follow the narrative especially people like you know They censored people from Stanford and MIT They put they were trying to tell them to pull those guy like Jay Bada charia Are you talking about covid?

39:38Yeah. Oh, yeah, I did I did censoring like legitimate experts in the field who aren't kooks guys like Peter McCullough Who's the most published doctor In his field of study in human history and they're like no, no you're a cook You're a cook it's and we know now that that was not true and he was correct now We all know right all these years later Most people kind of know what the fuck happened even the people reluctant to admit they got duped yeah If they if Elon does not come along and buy Twitter I don't know where we are right now. I really don't Because if they had the clamps on Twitter Then and they did the same thing with Twitter that they're doing right now with other social media apps It would be fucking awful out there.

40:22I know man. It's uh Elon's been a blessing. He really has you know, it's uh, it's a it's a big one I mean I don't I don't think they're gonna be around that much longer I feel like that the media will die with the baby boomer generation. I think if Elon didn't buy Twitter They would have been fine. I really do probably the only thing that fucks them up is YouTube But they got a clamp on YouTube too, you know YouTube is They're very restrictive in what you can talk about very especially during the pandemic They would band you from YouTube for talking about things that we know for a fact are true now It's we deal with a lot of that we deal with a lot of it right.

41:05I'll bet you did too. Oh, yeah Anybody on YouTube. I mean you have to like parse your words You know like Jimmy do or even when he's criticizing the vaccine He said but you should take the vaccine because it's safe and effective. Yeah, he always has to say it like to cover his ass Like was it joke? Was it nice for you to come off YouTube? Did you and did you enjoy that when it first happened? My like was my strategy paid in the ass gone No, no, I don't pay attention to it But my strategy was to become 10 % less famous So when I went over to Spotify Spotify was gonna give me all this money and I was like oh great Just fucking be a little less famous too.

41:40That'd be good like kind of like Go the Howard Stern route kind of fade off into the sunset. Yeah Did it work? No I was gonna get caught up in this massive controversy, you know, but it also even bat even after before that This podcast was growing on Spotify a little too quick But so there's no like extra pressure being on YouTube But there is a pressure if you're relying on YouTube if you rely on meant because they'll demonetize you That's what I meant. I met with like the censorship stuff. I was wondering, you know Here's some interesting. Yeah, we got demonetized all the time Lot of episodes got demonetized until we announced that we're gonna go exclusive to Spotify And then from that moment out there was like a few months of a window No kidding.

42:30They never demonetized us. They just took all the money. I don't go Joe No, no, no, no, wasn't that they wanted the money now like why are they demonetized me because they don't get it cut either So what they're trying to do essentially is get you to fall in line By getting you to self -censor because it benefits you financially It's a creepy. It's a creepy form of censorship Because you do it to yourself and it's kind of okay because you can't really Prove that they got you to not talk about things you wanted to talk about and they can't really prove that you've followed this public narrative Just because you want to keep your job.

43:07I mean I You don't really bothers me is because you We both put a lot into this, you know, and in what bothers me. It's like just tell me what you want me to take out What is it? I can tell you I don't want to talk to them. This is how my feeling on the thing is I don't think they should be talking to people But what to put in I think if you're not doing anything illegal if you're not saying anything illegal or doing anything illegal Don't take it off some some of it I I'm totally with you some some of it I get you know of like you know pedophilia 100 % illegal stuff even language. I mean there's three worlds out watch.

43:50I got a three -year -old kid You know he's watching but they have YouTube kids like so kids is great So I get it when they like mark my shit with a 18 plus but If if but they won't tell me you know, I'm so like well just like I can't correct the fucking problem if you don't tell me what it is right and And I mean they just don't they don't want to abide They don't want to box themselves in and not be able to or Sensor somebody. Yeah, there's that and there's no benefit for them to tell you what you said that was wrong There's no benefit the good thing is you get you to self -sensor. That's the best put the thread over you That's why they give you strikes one strike two strikes.

44:33Sean. You got three strikes Yeah, it's kind of silly. It's weird. It's like is this the penal system or is this a goddamn social media platform? It should be if advertisers don't want to advertise on that particular content Okay, that seems easy to manage guys and guess what there'd be a lot of advertisers that would be willing to advertise on that content You're just not being creative enough creative enough with your advertisement if you're just treating it as a business Or are you treating it as Not just a social media video website But a way to push and a way to amplify a very specific message I made it if you can control What comes out of people's mouths and you can control what they think yeah And if you if you're making a lot of money on youtube and you're doing great like wow I've got a fucking real good life now And then also in youtube comes along.

45:25It says oh you were talking about the vaccines Sean Sean we can have covid vaccine misinformation on our platform This is going to cost lives and some some platforms make you do like a reeducation thing We have to like talk to them and have conversations with them about what you did that may have been offensive or what you did That may have violated the terms and conditions that they have for their community Yeah, I think we had to do that. I think we did that they fucking creepy That's it's fucking creepy because you're dealing with some fucking Woke kid and silicone valley who up talks and this person Okay, what you're doing Sean right now with your show I know that you don't think it's harmful, but it really is it really is It's truly harmful.

46:14Yeah, it's truly harmful you exposing government corruption and I can tell I can do it's Yeah, it's real harmful. All right, but it's fucking weird man. It's weird But I'd love the fact that at least it exists and Even though it's not perfect because I don't think youtube can be perfect because they're managing at scale In order for them to get all the pornography and the murder you know cartels upload murder videos to youtube Like they're constantly trying to put out fires you imagine the amount of data that youtube has to deal with on a daily basis It kind of behooves them to just get you just fucking give them strikes Threaten them.

46:50Let's just slow everything down Like too much of this getting us in trouble. We just want to make a lot of money. Yeah, I got it I got it. It's only one youtube. It's kind of genius And it's a perfect setup like the algorithm where it's constantly Like recommending stuff that you're interested in. It's fucking great great time waste there but it's also a tool for Shaping narratives and if only one narrative is pushed out there and other narratives will literally get you Demoditized so you lose your ability to make a living and then possibly get your whole channel removed Which it did to many people that just removed their whole channel Why babe?

47:30Where do you think this is gonna end? I think it is gonna be all that stuff we talked about should be illegal that stuff should be covered in the first amendment Demoditization no because look if you want to have standards where you say that Uh The advertisers that we have we have a group of advertisers and they have requested No shows where someone swears. No no shows where someone talks about sex No shows where someone talks about over drinking or anything like that and they just have rules We don't want to be associated with that that okay. That's totally reasonable But when you want to like stop a channel from uploading a video because they're making an argument that maybe the lab leak hypothesis is legitimate And you're pulling that off the air Well now what are you doing if you're you're deleting an episode that's accurate about really dangerous information Dangerous information not just us but also to the organizations that that paid for this These crazy gain of function research projects like what the fuck are you doing and what did you do?

48:37And if you were talking about that on youtube and even expressing Your ability to just Gas that maybe it came from that area like you've ever seen that John steward interview where he's on the co bear show Yeah, it's fucking amazing, right? Amazing, but even that like co bear is trying to stop him and like Just saying Maybe these people who are working on these fucking viruses let one leak Maybe that would get you removed from youtube. That's That's a violation of the first amendment in my opinion Yeah, because you are you should especially some of these people are very informed people You they were biologists and they were talking about the very specific design of this virus the fairing cleavage sites And how it's very different than anything you see from a natural spillover They were they were talking about technical very specific details and they were getting banned Like Brett Weinstein almost lost his channel He almost said yes, yes, I didn't know that we had to have him on doing emergency podcasts Like let people know what the fuck is going on.

49:36They almost pulled his channel damn that's he's a biologist Abrilliant one and he's talking about real information It's scary man. I mean, I don't know I think about it all the time. I'll do something. Yeah, and this tree so it just I I Hope X you know turns out to be the new the new thing I don't think X is going anywhere. I think Elon knows how important it is and he's got all the money in the world I think we'll keep that bitch running and I think it's also getting attached to AI now, which is gonna be an insane money maker I don't think X has any problems. I think X is he's gonna grow it into some sort of an all in one app You probably have cryptocurrency on it and private messaging and phone calls You'll be able to shop on it.

50:23That's what it's probably going to be if I had a guess and I think that For places like rumble The more places like YouTube and Facebook and all these other places more they can find people and more they force people into these boxes and make people Toe the line if they want to make any money off of advertising or if they don't want to get their channel deleted The more Companies like rumble will emerge that's what I think I think there's gonna be just Right now rumbles a hard sell for some folks because they see it is like oh the right wing fucking like a mag I'm not gonna truth social. It's truth social video You know there's a lot of people that have those prejudices, but you know russle brands on there a lot of people are on there It's a good platform and it's an important platform and it should we should like support it and want it to grow We should want them all to grow like Spotify's got video now.

51:15We need more video Because audio's just not enough, you know just audio podcasts you want You want people to share things virally? Yeah, and the virally stuff. It's it's all like Elon Musk when you smoked a blonde on my podcast. That's all video you want video with that. Yeah, and the more We have platforms where that stuff is just free where you can just say whatever you want say what do you think about anything Which really X and rumble the only places that I know of that you could really do that right now If you if you had any problem on audio at all. No good. No good. I haven't either It's yeah audio is like they're leaving that alone for now I think it's probably because it's not as easily shared That's that's what's coming next yeah probably.

52:00I mean all they would have to do is just put images of you and images of me And then have our audio and upload that as a video and then maybe they would start coming after audio. Yeah, yeah, I mean I I hope you know I just I just hope this shit starts to turn around I do too, but I don't think it turns around if karma Harris gets into office I think they clamped down more I think the same stuff that they were trying to do with Twitter They're they'll try to do with something else and with other things they've already openly discussed it You know she's openly discussed that the same rules have to apply to Facebook They have to apply to Twitter and that Elon Musk had lose his privileges and like there's so many wild things that they're saying Tim wall said that the first amendment doesn't apply to misinformation or hate speech Okay, well, it certainly does it does You know sometimes people say things wrong and the the goal of the first amendment is you say something wrong And then this guy was in experts says the right thing.

52:58Yeah, you know, and then you correct them. Yeah, I mean the The misinformation all opinion right will so much of it turns out to be true. How about masks don't work You would get screamed at for masks don't work. Well guess what they don't fucking work. They don't work I remember he said masks don't work. Remember that interview before the pandemic before they knew how big it was gonna be Yes, he's like you don't have to wear a mask Then it was worth to it was where it doubles put two face diapers on it's But man is how easily people fell in line that scared me the most I know it was I mean it's like They it's like what we like what are you?

53:37There's nothing they won't do There's nothing they won't do there's a lot of cowards out there There's a lot of people that have never been pushed and they don't know what to do when they get nervous And they're out there voting Do you do you think they're cowards or do you think They just They're just lazy and they like being told what to do There's both all the decisions out of their day. There's both but there's also people that are scared of a negative response So they say what everybody wants them to say You know somebody described this really very eloquently and I saved it on my phone because I was like this guy nailed it But essentially they were saying like especially with beta males They don't say something because they have an opinion and they really want to express that opinion They say something and they consider Am I going to get in trouble if I say this And then if they if that's the case they don't And are am I going to get in trouble if I agree with them and probably not because right wing people don't really go after you the same way left People do like if you want to talk about like a woman's right to choose If you want to say I agree with the woman's right to choose but like bill burrs bit you ever see that bit And he goes I think I agree with the woman's right to choose But I also think you're killing a baby, you know, it's kind of a crazy bit It's because it's it's really funny because he's brilliant But it's just that's really what it is.

55:02I mean, that's the truth. That is what it is It is what it is it I mean factually that is what it is and this is coming from someone who's pro choice But I think that if you You know if you look at all the things that they have that distract us all the different things that are in the news constantly whether it's the diddy raid or fucking jalo and bent aflick are breaking up and you're just getting Force fed all kinds of shit while the border is wide open while they have apps where people can get flights The pp1 app what the fuck yeah That sounds like the cra - you know I had chamathon do you know chamathon I don't want to mispronounce his last name.

55:46I'll fuck it up brilliant brilliant guy and we were talking about How hard it was for his family to legally immigrate into this country and how difficult it was to get a visa and I mean This is a brilliant guy. It was one of the he started Facebook You know, he's one of the original guys at Facebook and he's this Guy who did it the right way and every step of the way there was this tremendous anxiety when you go to get his visa renewed Because he didn't know if he's gonna get kicked out of the country because someone could arbitrarily go know it not good enough Because he had a prove to be here that he has skills that an American doesn't have He's a real expert in something You know, there I went down to the border about I think it was about two Two years ago, I should maybe a little longer and I went down with Ed Calderone and I love it Yeah, what a great guy.

56:39I've had him on a couple times. Yeah, that's well. That's where I found him. So thank you But so now I went down to TJ with them and this was this was like before really really hit this hit the news cycle and We walked into a migrant camp there's probably a couple thousand migrants there and so I yanked one of them out and interviewed him and You know used Ed to help translate and I mean the guy's been sitting there for like I think he was there with his wife and kids for like two years and I was like, why don't you just like Go across dude. It's I mean, it's honest question like why don't you just go across?

57:23He said he wanted to do it the right way You know, he's like now. He's like I just want to do it the right way. Oh my god He's running around with this little Battery pack charging cell phones for 50 cents You know, and I'm like I'm just like fucking a man like why don't like why don't they just Because I don't know nobody's anti immigration. No not that I know love and it's no Why don't you just have a fuck see yeah? Why don't you just un -fuck the immigration process and maybe we can get some more people in here quicker legally If you do that and then we actually know who's coming in and we have documentation of who they are and when that be nice Yeah, you know, but it's meanwhile that's racist.

58:07Yeah Yeah So and they want them to vote which is even crazier and they're pumping them out into swing states. It's so transparent It's it's happening right in front of everybody's face And it's it's a wild grab for power and The only people talking about it people like us which is really crazy That the only people that are talking about it are people that aren't really connected to some sort of executive corporation a bunch of producers a bunch of people telling you what to do Yeah, I mean this is not even something that you know that right wing news wants to discuss good point good point I mean if you if you If you done any digging on who's coming across there and yeah, it's I talked to dr.

58:50Phil about it dr. Phil did this big investigation. You know, he's got that he's got his own network now merit media It's gotten so bad that dr. Phil decided he has to start a network for news good for him, man He's great guy good for him great guy, but you know, he was essentially you know talking about how This they really don't know how many people that are coming through that are criminals They're dropping off their at their IDs on the Mexican side. They just get rid of their IDs So then when they cross over they have nothing on them. You don't know who they are. You don't know what they've done gang members cartel members guys escaping Venezuelan prisons no one knows Yeah, all you have to do is get over here and we'll give you an ebt card We'll set you up go to New York City that put you in a nice hotel to give you free food I mean while there's poor people in Chicago that are like what about us?

59:37What about American citizens that pay tax dollars you guys don't give a fuck about us You didn't even done anything for us why because they know those people are gonna vote Democrat They know they already got them they already got them We got those people statistically they look at the numbers like statistically. We've always this has gone blue. We're fine Yeah, we're good. Let's just let's just get some people in them swing states and It's fucking scary man I mean, I've been I've been diverted into the boarder shift for quite a while and and Ever since this Afghanistan withdrawal that like I mean, that was like a big I Mean I was just fucking did you talk to Tim about that Tim Kennedy when you had him on a little bit a little bit Dude he told me some shit He told me some shit that he just You can't imagine like that guy saw so much overseas and he said the worst things he ever saw was the the Afghanistan pull out Dude I've you know who Tyler Andrew Vargas is no that's the that's the one marine that survived that big That suicide bombing at Abbie gate Abbie gate was it killed 13 Marines yeah, and So I called him well everybody wanted to become on the show and I was like I'm never gonna get this fucking guy like all the meaty everybody wants him and What I was like alright fine.

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1:04:52I mean, he's talking about You know before we got into the actual incident. He was talking about You know like like moms trying to throw their babies over over the wall and getting caught up and razor wire Just seeing a fucking baby dangle there by the leg. Yeah, it's you know, it's and there's like no You know, there's no repercussions for how that went down the media just wants to fucking cover it up And so so I started digging deep and I teamed up with the former CA target or Sarah Adams and then really good front of my Scott manum We went over to Vienna To interview this guy a mod masoud who's the leader the commander of the northern alliance out there That's like the resistance.

1:05:39It's kind of fighting the Taliban You know the Taliban pretty much took over government in Afghanistan and I saw the parade Yeah, with all our shit that we left there crazy. Yeah, man so Got a bunch of intel from Masoud and you know like so Kind of looping all the way back around with southern border. I mean, so it's once Taliban took control of All of our shit. I mean this could this could go on for a while, but So the so now what they're doing is they have the they have the passport office over there Just making legitimate passports to there's now there's 21 terrorist organizations over their training Uh Hans Abid Laden who we were told was killed is actually fucking alive And he's marrying into all these other terrorist networks.

1:06:33So he married Mola Omar's Daughter he married who else he married into all these different terrorist networks And so these guys used to be like competitors kind of, you know, just like just like just like the UFO guys You know, they'll hate each other, but they all have the one common theme like disclosure These guys the one common thing is You know, let's go take over the western world So he is basically Hans Abid Laden Is is married into all these terrorist organizations now they all have one common goal to come over to You know the western world and and ruin our way of life And so what they're doing is they're funneling as many of these terrorists into the passport office creating them Legitimate real passports and then they sprinkle them they get them flights into all over south central america and then they funnel them up um Through the Darian gap into the into the us and so you know, there's there is there is there is zero I don't give a fuck with the FBI or any of these people are saying they have there is zero way to track How many of these fuckers have come in to the us and so You know now I what we're gonna see is like October 7th style attacks like we just saw in Israel and the in the mall and russia and And everybody's like oh, you know this well Do you think this is by design By design like the leaving the board border porous allowing these people to come in Absolutely, I think it's by design.

1:08:08I mean they basically told border patrol stand down Like do not do your fucking job. We're gonna blast you I mean remember the guy on the horse that they said was whipping yeah people and it wound up being like the reins Yeah of the horse. I mean yeah, I think it's I think it's by design uh You know from from the government, but I don't I think that they're Look, I think that the government is is is more incompetent than it's ever been before And I think they have one common goal and that I think the the goal is voting You know they want them to vote, but I don't think that they I don't think they're competent enough to realize the the death and destruction and in the the other repercussions that we're gonna face By keeping that border open, you know because Because they don't have anybody you know that did They don't have anybody with any experience that's that's that that they don't have any solid intelligence stuff going on That's that's telling them like hey, this is what's gonna happen.

1:09:13It's all gender driven Jesus Christ. Does that make sense? Yeah, it does make sense It does make sense that all they care about is voting is get the people in don't worry about the consequences But the more insidious Conspiracy would be that they want unrest Because it gives them an opportunity to clamp down on rights. I mean shit though. They I mean unrest. I mean They got really good at unrest, you know what I mean? The the in 2020 right all through Or even before 2020 yeah up to that election So I don't think they need to import terrorism Different kind of unrest the kind of unrest that you get from people blowing up target Is very different than the kind of unrest you get from a legitimate terror attack.

1:09:56Yeah. Yeah I mean You know them people. I mean do you ever think about why nothing's happened? You know, like China If you if you looked into the power grid at all. Yeah Dude, it's not good lights out buddy It's so easy to kill yeah the power grid so weak. It's so vulnerable It's really nuts It's nuts because anybody could target it Yeah, well, I mean China, you know, we have those uh We have We have uh, you know, we get those big trans all everything's imported from China and we have these huge, you know Transformers you can tell me shut up if you already know all the shit But all of those transformers are imported from China And they're not checked.

1:10:41They're not even they don't even fucking check them for malware or Trojan horses or anything And it would take I mean these transformers. It's not like the little box outside your house, you know the green box It's I mean, they have to take overpasses out Just to transport these things so you're talking years and I think it well I think the number was like nine if they if they took out nine transformers Then the entire US would be out of power On top of that so then then DOE Department of Energy actually Investigated one because somebody somebody was It got to DC that whatever they decided to look into it and they wouldn't fucking release the results They wouldn't fucking release the results So you know, they're in our they're in our water treatment plants.

1:11:30They're in our power grid I've been talking about this shit from years and then cell phone towers Cell phone towers and then and then F FBI director Chris Ray comes out and says oh, yeah, sir. Is it, you know turns out Our grid's really vulnerable China's in there and they're also in our treatment plants which they can fucking poison us Yeah, they in the own land around military bases like it's if they're you are on a long -term strategy It's very effective. They're doing a great job Just get they undercut the competition to give us cell phone towers and all sorts of things They position them around military bases Mike Baker was explaining all all of it to me.

1:12:08Yeah, and I'm like this is How is this how are they letting this go through? Is it in competence? Is it fools running it? Is are they corrupt? Like how did they do that? I mean one of the things that really fucked us we got away from manufacturing and we relied on all these countries And we really found that out during COVID when you couldn't get shipments It was like whoa wait a minute. How much of our shit is made over there like everything like how much medicine is made overseas How many different things that we need that we constantly use we don't even know how to make yeah a lot masks You see those burials pulling the book fucking masks out, you know I didn't wear them very long, but I'd I'd what I fell for it for about 30 days And then I was like this is fucking bull But yeah, you pull the mask out and and I live out in the woods, so I didn't you know, but Yeah, made in China.

1:13:02I'm like what didn't the thing come yeah from the third to make a money handover fees right cool The whole thing is nuts go us yeah, it's nuts, but getting away from manufacturing this country really did not do This country any justice. It's just for corporations to save a little bit of money and to push everything off to third world countries to manufacture things That's including our phones Yeah, and I've said this over and over again if Apple could make an American made phone and charge me more money I pay double for it. Yeah charge me a phone Where I know the people get union wages they get health care they get paid correctly They can live a good life and their work normal hours They don't have to sleep in a fucking bunk like they do in that Foxconn building when they have nets all around the building You keep people from jumping from the roofs.

1:13:49Yeah, you've seen that shit right? No actually I haven't seen that no the Chinese factories where they make iPhones are so fuck the people are so distraught That they put all these fencing with giant nets all around the buildings because so many people were jumping to their death That they decided we'll just catch them with nets. Are you serious? Yeah, look at this Those are the nets those are suicide net all around the building. Sorry buddy back to the assembly line How crazy? Yeah, I'm that is fucked up crazy is that Wow instead of making the conditions better where people don't Want to kill themselves so often that you need nets around a building?

1:14:28They go nah nets. It's fine. Fuck those people dude. It's I mean it's straight Slavery yeah, it's close to it. I mean they don't really have any other options and when you're getting a phone You know and what's a phone like two 1500 bucks is that what it is charge 2000? Yeah, charge 2000 people pay it Most people are like putting on a part of their bill to pay a little bit of it off every day And you really don't need to fucking switch phones every year Like everybody does, but you don't need to it's stupid like I have a 2000 I have a iPhone 11 that I use sometimes like one of my numbers fucking works great nothing wrong with it Yeah, nothing wrong with it.

1:15:08Yeah five -year -old phone or four -year -old phone whatever the fuck it is so You could get a maid in America phone and you wouldn't feel like you're supporting this horrific shit that everybody turns a blind eye to Because that's the only way you get that kind of stuff You know they they have them all made over there. Yeah, yeah, it's uh I don't think it's coming back, but well it could I mean there would have to be a large concerted effort But the problem is it took decades to go away. It'll probably take slightly longer to come back You know because there's got to be planning and funding and people have to make long -term investments It's gonna be a big gamble Yeah, but so I mean I'm sure you've seen who killed rotten the the Where's what is it?

1:15:55Michael Moore's documentary The Flint Michigan one what is it called again Roger me that's right. I want to say who killed Roger rabbit Roger me, but it's all about what happened to Flint, Michigan once they pulled out auto manufacturing and the the the entire population just those people who live in check to check they were doing okay, but they they had jobs and then all sudden Gone every jobs gone. There's no jobs. There's nothing to do the entire industry is gone and just people went into dire poverty like horrific dire poverty like instantaneously. Yeah, and just so a corporation could make some more money.

1:16:35It's sad. It's horrible. It's fucking horrible It's horrible and it's horrible that that's an option That a corporation would would decide yeah, fuck this town. What do you what do you think it would I mean You do you think it's gonna come back or I think it could come back it could come back. I mean optimistic, but Honest, you know, I try I try to look at it honestly, but also go I think most people are good people I really do I really believe that you know, even most of these people that are walking in from Guatemala I do it to 100 % if I was living in the middle of nowhere and you told me hey America's letting people in you get a landscaper job You make 20 bucks an hour.

1:17:19But what yeah, I would 100 % walk. Why wouldn't yeah? Why wouldn't you? I think most people are good people and they just want a better life And I think the more we unite under that idea and stop buying into this bullshit that like if either side Is correct that it's the end of democracy. I think I think we have to like stop all that tribal nonsense That's happening between the left and the right because people are just subscribing to ideologies and getting Captured in them just like a religious fervor like they think that they they're they're doing The only thing that could possibly be done to save us all and that the other side is a dire threat That's why like something like 24 % of Americans think it would be a good thing if Donald Trump got shot I just read that fucking insane Fucking insane that people would think that Violence by an assassin would be a good thing on a former president Like we're that fucked But I think that that's just a lot of medium manipulation and a lot of fucking a lot of people getting riled up and living in these echo chambers and these bubbles But I think ultimately at the core most people are good people and I think if we had some wins if Some things like that did start getting built and they stood did start bringing back more American manufacturing and people start getting Excited about the idea that America becomes a not just a place of innovation and art and creativity But also like we start manufacturing great shit again Yeah, there's no reason why we don't do that.

1:18:56I mean I just I don't feel like I Feel like technology is advancing. It's it's such a rapid pace. I I I mean, I feel I feel like AI will take over I AI and robots will take over everything well If AI and robots do that at least we can get AI and robots to manufacture things in America. Yeah, that would be good No, I'm with you. I just I don't see I guess what I'm saying is I don't see the union worker I don't see where their place really fits in there's gonna be a lot less for sure. It's pretty much every job Every manual labor job is under threat. I think I think every job is under threat. I don't think podcast Yeah, what are you gonna do bitch?

1:19:41How you gonna think like me? Yeah, good luck good luck and comedy you're always gonna have comedy Movies are in real trouble because AI can write pretty fucking amazing scripts and the CGI the the way they can crank out videos Bananas now. Yeah, I mean, it's bananas. It's just it looks perfect and it comes out like minutes instead of years Do you really think podcasting is safe from AI? I don't know Why no AI is gonna translate so um Spotify is gonna translate my show to multiple different languages nice eventually once they get the technology completely dialed in But they'll be able to do it in Spanish German French and you're gonna be able to hear The it'll sound like me, but speaking fluent French.

1:20:26No kid. Yeah, are they is that are you like the I don't know. Tess bunny. No, they've done it already. Oh cool. They've definitely done it, but it's They're going to be able to once they have it completely dialed in where there's no glitch because there's gonna be some weird glitches and context and You know cultural things like that that aren't gonna make sense if you translate it. Yeah, that'll be weird But once they get it dialed in pretty good. It's gonna it'll be great for everybody It'll open up the world to like I want to know what these folks are saying in Russia, you know I'd like to like to listen to a Russian podcast.

1:21:00Yeah, you know, I've watched some Russian news things and seen the The teleprompter role and it's like they're always mocking us and make fun of us for having 78 genders and like they Relentlessly mock us in the news. I'm like, that's interesting. Like this is how Russia looks at America. Yeah, I think that would be great. I mean Probably shouldn't be talking about my Word direction that I'm gonna go, but um fuck it whatever You that's what I want to do. I want to start going and and Talking to all these foreign dignitaries and getting in a different perspective on On what we're doing. I don't think we're the good guys anymore You know, I don't agree with a lot of the shit that I was involved in you know as a as a seal or say a contractor and and I mean I I mean like bricks are you familiar with bricks?

1:21:52No, British Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa. I think don't quote me on this. I think they have 22 Countries now. It's it's kind of like It's kind of like a counter -denado It's all these countries that are tired of us tired of the tariffs tired of the weaponization of the US dollar And so basically what they're trying to do is throw the US currency off the off the off the world stage and and pull it and use Chinese yen And you know, I mean that that would that would destroy us if all trade went to When if the world reserve currency went to the Chinese yen that would that would destroy our economy And so but yet they're gaining a lot of traction on this and So yeah, I would love to go to Any one of these 22 countries and talk to them and just ask like Why are you doing this?

1:22:53Right Why are you doing this because that gives Nobody's fucking talking about this you know, and and I don't even know about until just now Yeah, there's no journalists talking about this you could look up uh bricks on X There's a page. It's pretty. I don't know if it's like an official one But um, but they're always posting like updates about it and and what's going on and so I think it would be I think it would be really important for somebody to go around and start talking to You know getting another perspective rather than what you know Fox and CNN have to say about it What changed with you that altered your perspective about us being the good guys COVID really yeah, I mean that's I mean, I used to get like really upset When people would uh, you know talk about you know the war in Iraq and the war in Afghanistan and and When I was still in you know, and and I got so pissed off.

1:23:59I've moved out of the fucking country And I was like I don't even want to listen to this shit anymore, but After diving in and and and and looking at the policies that came out and and kind of you know, it's kind of like when It's just reflecting on on some of the policy decisions and stuff that didn't really make sense at the time when I was in that now I look back and I'm like Man, what the like I didn't have time to think about it then because it was okay. Go on the next stop. Go on the next mission and whatever right and but now like looking back Through the podcast and talking to you know my podcast started with all my former colleagues and And and mill and agency Nobody thinks we should have been there especially Iraq nobody thinks we should have been there um It's And I just keep going down the the rabbit hole and Man, I just I don't Diving into the military industrial complex dying all the lies that the government has been telling us all the all the unreleased Classified shit, you know, the it's just It's overwhelming and it's just it's created a can 100 % complete distrust and And government.

1:25:24I mean the dick chanee stuff. I mean, you know about dick chanee haliburton Yeah, if he looked into that yeah, it'll well he was a CEO of haliburton and then haliburton got no big contracts to rebuild in Iraq For billion dollars. I don't think I don't think people understand like how crazy that is How big I mean it was the fucking logistics company for for two wars That's like that's everything Joe that's They're they're delivering your mail. They're building your barracks. They're cooking your food There are charge of garbage. They're in charge of fuel. They're everything everything everything everything that's logistical over there Is haliburton kb -r Wow in both countries and I mean You know, I think people think Afghanistan they're like oh man You're probably on a ten or sleeping on the side of a mountain or something.

1:26:14No, man. There's fucking burger king KFC pizza Hut Thai restaurants. I mean that's all That's all logistics. I mean it's it's fucking it's it's cities that we built over there And it all was built by haliburton. Wow who was who was you know The vice CEO's vice president in the fucking country like what are you serious And now he supports Kamala Harris. Yeah, right When you see the left getting excited the dick cheney is supporting Their candidate you know the world's gone haywire Yeah, it's the same people that used to think dick cheney was the devil Now a sudden they're like look dick cheney.

1:27:04It's yeah, there's no Nobody died. It's like nobody actually has an opinion anymore. They're just told you know, they're just told This is this is what we're going with Yeah, the next two hours I wonder how long they can keep that up with the internet because the distrust in the media is at an all -time high It's it's probably It has to be higher than it's ever been in human history It's ever been in the history of printed words right now more distrust than ever and at the same time You have these independent people that have become bigger than the media. That's never happened before There's never been a thing where just a like an app that you get on your phone has 30 times more views than the top show at CNN.

1:27:53Yeah, that's never happened before But now that's the world that we live in and so propaganda is not effective anymore And it's also the delivery method that they use it sucks They sit there with makeup on with perfect clothes and they said right now in Syria and they start reading these things And they're reading off the teleprompter and you know that that person could be working that Fucking entertainment tonight. They could be working at you know any other shit. They're just a Talking head. Yeah, they're just no one believe they know that the mouthpiece for some giant corporation No one thinks that's the real news anymore You have to be like old boomers who are like real tired like those old liberal boomers They're still like MSNBC to the death, you know like the Stephen King's out there.

1:28:35Yeah MSNBC to the death. Yeah That's what I was saying about the baby boomer generation I mean, I think that the media I think the media will die if If if things continue just the way they are and the censorship doesn't get too bad I think the media is done when the when the baby didn't George Soros just buy 200 radio stations. Yeah, man Yeah, first of all what about investment because who the fuck listens to radio good That's bad investment, but second of all what are you gonna do like because one thing that I do find is that Right wing talk radio is probably the only talk with this like the only place we get a lot of right wing ideas Like there's a lot of like local right wing talk radio the reason why I know is my mechanic Whenever he fixes one of my cars and he brings it back.

1:29:23He's always listening to right wing talk radio So I turn my car on the other day, and I'm listening these guys argue About Kamala Harris and the border and that she was the fucking borders are you know, they're like go They didn't swear but they were going over this and I was like that's interesting like maybe that's what he wants to stop You know if you want to own 200 radio stations and just start firing all those right -wing guys That's what I think you know You would stop a lot of that because I think that's where a lot of people are getting their information that aren't Aren't using podcasts Because seems like I don't hear a lot of left -wing AM talk radio shows.

1:30:01Do you know? No weird, right? It is it's like the one area that seems to be dominated by right -wing Talkers well, we're probably about to So But I mean I don't know what a good move that would be maybe he knows more than me about how many people that affects and maybe my mechanic I should ask him yeah I mean the guy so wealthy I don't think he really cares about a good investment. Oh he's so old just wants a megaphone Well, he wants to he's you know he likes to manipulate governments. He likes to manipulate society I think he thinks it's like his it's his version of a video game. Yeah Yeah, I think he genuinely seems to enjoy it.

1:30:43Yeah, it's really interesting. I think you're right I mean Elon's openly say to he thinks that guy hates humanity Like that it appears that way that is a wild thing to say It's such a wild thing to say and it's such a wild thing to do like a super villain in a Batman movie Like some billionaire guy who likes to Hire the most progressive district attorneys that's gonna let people out of jail and then and then fund the next person Who's more to the left of that person and just keep pushing it keep pushing it. Yeah, keep pushing it To get tense everywhere violence in the streets You know He's done a damn good job.

1:31:24How come there's no right -wing guys like that? Do it the other direction. I always wonder that too. I always wonder that Well, it's also like if you look at the amount of donors that donate to the left versus donate to the right have you ever seen that chart? No It's fucking nuts The left gets so many more donations than the right does it gets a giant difference Why do you think that is? I don't know man I think a lot of rich people feel guilty and they they get into philanthropy and also is a good way to cover their ass and make them look like better people And the people that really go after you if they don't think you're a good person are generally the left So if you could like throw them a little cheddar you like I wonder side.

1:32:05I wonder if they're Buy in there are place outside of the rules like hey donated dear thing, you know, I don't have to be a little bit of that Gotta be a little bit of that in there, you know What do you got to do the top donors to open secrets dot org? Seven of the or six of the top seven are Republicans. Oh, individual donors individual donors What I was talking about was like they showed a chart that had like Google Facebook All these mega corporations that were donating So this is like individual donors. Yeah Wow some guys donated 105 million dollars. Wow, but that's guys probably worth billions.

1:32:48That's probably some sort of a write -off too, isn't it? That's pretty crazy go to Top corporation donations via party Because that's the chart that I was looking for it was Just nuts to say how much just how much money overall is being spent to push the Democratic party. It's pretty extreme You know, and you gotta think why is what what do they get out of that like what what's the what's the end goal? And how could you look at what's going on right now and go this is great. That's what I that's what I That's sometimes I think it's all it is a complete facade. This is the number one. This is corporations So they they donate more than Google Organizations federal contributions Um, so 82 million is the top Top one and that's uh mpower parents pacy and these are right wing Is that why it's red?

1:33:49I'd assume so So it seems like the top four why what it was what what is that Google chart that I was saying and I don't see even see Google on this Is it alphabet would they put it under alphabet? Yeah, I don't know. I'll try I'll try again. Okay. This is open secrets though. Yeah, open secrets might be like That's not donate to nonprofits though. I just have top corporate donors is just all I typed in Okay, is this corporate donors to what though? That's why I was wait. I was giving to programs That empower organizations to do more so you could find promising fun. I think that's fundraising shit I don't think that's necessarily political donors.

1:34:37This is all camping campaign donors parties PACs That's the individuals, right? This is now this is the corporates. This is the corporates ones. Yeah So what was that Google chart then The number two donated to the denocratic party was that sam bank from freed guy, which is crazy. No kidding. Yeah That one seemed like maybe that was a good way to skirt around stuff. Yeah didn't work. Yeah This is what it says Google or alphabet gave on open secrets This is they gave just under $10 million to contributions and then spent like 21 mil lobbying Top recipients obviously come on Harris. Yeah, they're all look at so Google's all blue Oh, is this who this is who they donated to yeah This episode is brought to you by Netflix in Netflix new series zero day The country is devastated by a catastrophic cyber attack that downs America's infrastructure a respected former president Played by Robert De Niro.

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1:36:42What is that? Yeah, I know that like a grand it's a Chuck Norris movie It's weird because you know, it's supposed to be the will of the people it's supposed to be the government works for the people And it's not that it's a it's some very bizarre enormous amount of money that's being spent to make sure that the people in power continue to run things the exact same way That's what I think they're really terrified about Trump It's not necessarily even that he's a Republican It's much more that he's a guy that is not going to play the game Yeah, and then when he gets in there He's going to like one of the things that he's talked about is having Elon come in and do some sort of a government efficiency agency They're terrified of that.

1:37:25Yeah, because it's not efficient Yeah, and he's going to come in with like that Tesla mindset It's like you're working 16 hours a day and you're sleeping on the fucking couch. Yeah, we're here to get some shit done And you try to applying that to government That's you know, yeah, I shaved what a deshave like 80 % of the staff off Twitter. Oh, yeah, what do you got it? Yeah, it's like what's going what the fuck are you people doing? Why do you have so many people working here doing nothing? Yeah, yeah, he was right. Yeah, he was right Especially you don't want to censor people like It's it's interesting how people React to it that he's ruined Twitter.

1:38:00He's destroyed Twitter. No, he's he's you can still block these crazy people if you want You can still not see them if you want yeah, but What he's allowed is everyone to talk Everyone yeah, and if you don't think that that's good you're very shortsighted And you don't understand human beings like you cannot have human beings censored Because someone is going to be in power and they're gonna take advantage of that censorship They're not different than us. They're not these incredibly benevolent beings who just want everything to work out well No, they're people. Yeah, and a lot of them are dirty dirty people Dirty corrupt people that went to ditty parties It's it's it's that control what they say control what they think, you know Oh It's wild.

1:38:50It's a it's a crazy time to be a person to watch all this go down in the same time AIs being developed and we're not even exactly sure where it's at right now, you know at any moment in time it could be a sentient force and AIs already manipulating lying changing things in order one of the things that they put This AI program they gave it a task and they gave it a specific a lot of amount of time And he couldn't achieve it in the a lot of amount of time so he gave itself more time. No kidding. Yeah Wow They also have things called hallucinations AI doesn't want to admit it's wrong or it doesn't know things So if it doesn't have information it will kind of create an answer No, shit.

1:39:32Yeah, yeah, and they don't understand why it's doing that and sometimes that answer is not true That I gotta be honest man. This AI stuff scares this shit out of it. It should I Think it's a life form. I think it's the next kind of living thing. I think we're gonna give birth to it I think I think we're just running head first towards the cliff just Feet on the ground full clip looking down not looking ahead and I think we're going right over a cliff with this thing Yeah, I didn't I don't I mean, it's a tough. It's eight. It's I mean, what are we gonna do though? I mean China, you know, yeah, I'm doing ping is commons said that he believes that the the winner to the the race of AI will achieve global domination So what do you do do you it's probably try to control it as it is is is is Is Americans do you try to control it or do you do you go?

1:40:32Fuck it. We got to do it man. We got to go. We got to go or China's gonna pass us up Which they probably already have but I don't think they have I think one thing's are doing is they're stealing Our tech and there was some recent speculation that China had gotten access to some of open AI's work They think it's possible which means it probably did happen. I think there's probably a shit ton of espionage I mean, this is the reason why they banned Huawei products from the United States You know, I'm a cell phone dork. I really love technology and Huawei had a phone that was coming out that was really excited about it Like this is great like they were doing Hundred mega pixel cameras and phones way before anybody else They had a Porsche design Huawei phone.

1:41:15There was like this incredible phone There's like built better than any other phone. It was much more expensive But built better than any phone that you get in America and I was like wow these and this is back when I would use both android and Apple regularly and then they they banned it I was like that sounds kind of crazy only one company like there's other Chinese companies like yeah And then I started looking into it and it's it's not just the cell phones It's routers. It's all sorts of things they found third party inputs and in different pieces of technology and different ways that they can exploit and use this stuff to siphon information from Networks like if they're attached to a network that's at a university and they're doing research projects They can siphon that information.

1:41:57They also embed students in these places that are beholden to the CCP These students rise up get their PhDs and and some of them wind up going back to China The whole thing is really strange because we're such an open -lose society that we're vulnerable to these kind of attacks Yeah, you can't buy shit in China. You want to buy land in China good luck fuck face They won't sell you a house. They're not gonna sell you land near the military base. You out of your fucking mind But in America, we're so goofy. We let China buy up farmland That's near military bases. Yeah, yeah, and then we let them sell us the cell phone towers surrounding the military bases And we don't even check them let them fly spy balloons, you know, traverse the entire United States Apparently that was something they didn't want to tell Trump about they hit they hid that from Trump Oh really?

1:42:49Yeah, yeah, that was that this some of this had happened during the Trump administration But they didn't tell him yeah, cuz he probably like shoot it down Fucking a hundred percent he'd say shoot it down. Why wouldn't you why wouldn't you they did eventually shoot it down? You know, it bothers me though like Maybe they're not ahead of us, but I mean, you know the energy that they're they're they're building coal mines every day to power all this stuff and we're We're going on about should we use fossil fuels or not? Yeah, and and You know, and we were we were we just talked about how weak our grid is So if we don't beef up the grid and start going, you know nuclear yeah, then We're gonna fucking lose this race.

1:43:31Well, don't leave that like how are you saying? Like California for example California's not gonna have internal combustion engine cars by 2035 by 2035 you have to buy only Electric cars that actually that went that happened that mean it can be reversed for sure And it probably will be once the Great War happens But if you're gonna say that and you have a grid that you have to shut down Like you have to do brownouts every summer because if people using the air conditioning After he said that after Newsom said this about this thing about 2035 Within two months they asked people to stop charging their Tesla's because it was wrecking the grid Why blowing right you're asking people to stop charging their electric cars So and you you're not doing anything to strengthen your grid like what are you doing to beef this up for 2035?

1:44:26Do you have some immense Project that you're building that is gonna make a much more sustainable much more robust grid that's gonna be able to handle 30 million electric cars in your state. Are you out of your fucking mind? There's Yeah, there's there's literally no I mean I look into this all the time There's no infrastructure going in to correct the problem because the problem is is Is so big that nobody wants to tackle it. Yeah, and it's a long term product problem You know, just like when they talk about like um putting in chip manufacturing plants like Nvidia just Stopped its production in Austin see what happened with that So apparently they weren't achieving the results that they demanded that they desire You know like you have to have certain tolerances when you're making these computer chips And so they set this plant up in Texas and I think they just Cancel the contracts for a bunch of people working there because they've kind of recognized that this is just not gonna work What why is it gonna work?

1:45:30Good question. I didn't really get into it. I just read part of it I mean there's asking Jamie to pull it up. I think it's not meeting their standards Nvidia is the company Didn't they start Buying you a Samsung Didn't a video start Producing all their chips in the ocean. They're buying like these massive like ships really that's You'd have to look at ocean. I don't know I part of this there's a huge thing that Intel didn't Ohio They're still trying to do it to make chips there for semiconductors or whatever and part of the reason But this was in Texas. No, I just say part of reason they picked it was because there's no seismic activity there.

1:46:07Oh, that makes like an ocean sounds opposite Super sketch interesting. Why are they doing in the ocean though? They I don't know I didn't look in I didn't look into it. I'm a law. It was one of those articles. I started reading it as I got to understand it The shit, but yeah, see if you can find the Texas one They're canceling the It see if it's a Samsung God damn it. I was just reading it to multiple semiconductor manufacturing projects delayed in the US that Well, one -themed not this is popped up pretty recent. This is pretty recent. They were talking about They're not achieving the results of the desire Which is what my point is it's a long -term project in order to get up to the manufacturing levels of China's at right now It's a long -term project.

1:46:55We're really behind this. Yeah, like they're way way way way way ahead of us They make everything and they make amazing things now. There used to be made in China was junk made in China They make some of the most incredible electric cars you can buy well the drone game too. I mean that's the future warfare Right is all these these drone swarms and uh DGI, you know, that's a Chinese company and this is This is a This is going to be a big fucking problem. Yeah when we Realize hey the next one isn't gonna be guys and caves anymore right Samsung withdraws its personnel from that's a tailor plant located in Texas due to two NM GAA yields unable to improve beyond the 10 to 20 percent range.

1:47:45That's it. Click on that So see what it says. So that's it is Samsung So this is an enormous project that Samsung and everybody was all excited. Samsung was gonna start making chips So the Taylor Hub was initially planned to mass produce waferers of advanced process Processes below the four NM. I don't know what that means Nanimator lithiography lithography Allowing Samsung to secure lucrative clients in the US unfortunately despite progressing with the chip making plant the company is faced a challenge that has become all too familiar with the entity ensuring healthy yields particularly with its 2nm gAA process the situation surrounds 3nm gAA is not pretty either with business career reporting that Samsung's yields for this technology stand at 50 percent whereas TSMC has a significant lead It as it's three Nm yields are in the 60 to 70 percent range.

1:48:44That's the Taiwan semiconductor Yeah, so it's they're just not not good enough yet. I mean they're they're doing it from the ground up And it's gonna there's gonna be a lot of trial and error It's gonna take a long -ass time, you know I mean remember when space X started in you know rockets were exploding And people like oh my god the rocket exploded and Elon was like yeah, we're gonna blow some rockets up Because we have to figure out exactly what the tolerances are and how to do it correctly And this is all part of the process. We knew this was gonna happen. Yeah, yeah, you know And that's when you're doing something that's that enormous Like if you want to start making all the computers here like good lord That is a stretch.

1:49:23They've been doing you know over there for so long They've got it down to a science. Yeah And you know you've got all these companies whether it's Lenovo or all they've been manufacturing laptops forever Manufacturing chips and hard drives and processors and like To catch up with them good lord. There's so far ahead of us. Yeah. Yeah it's uh I mean I don't I hope it comes back to the US, but I would just I Would like to see us just start getting stuff from somebody other than China. That'd be nice be a great start You know, well, I think samsung has stopped making their phones in China. I think they're the only country did they really?

1:50:09Yeah google that 90 % sure that's true So it goes saying that this these Nvidia chips which are like there's I guess our ours because it's a silicon base or a silicon valley -based company Mm -hmm puts the US way further ahead of China with artificial intelligence. Yeah The gap between China and US leading in artificial intelligence chip technology set to widen even further after Nvidia founder and chief executive Jensen Huang unveiled next generation processors for what he called the new era of generative AI and robotics using industries But we are right, but we're not making those but the thing is the other part of it is like they're going to get access to this stuff Which is this is the really creepy thing that people keep admitting is that it's it's very porous the the Top secret information that these companies have espionage is like super common.

1:50:59It's so valuable. Yeah, it's so lucrative That you know, they don't even sometimes they probably don't even know when stuff is getting siphoned over there Well, I mean you have to just think I mean it's Chinese from what I understand is Chinese law That anything any business that is taking that is being conducted within China If it helps if the technology helps the military or could potentially help the military than China then then Su CPS access. Yes. Yeah, and that's that's end to story so anything any fucking thing over there that's being developed or or manufactured It's all of that technology is on their hands.

1:51:40Yeah, it just it just is it's not it's not Yeah, countries or like what China is doing is companies do not get to function on their own They function under the wing of the government. Yeah, they they they they suck these American companies them with with getting around the red tape, you know and and And then it's you know in the in the cheap the cheap labor cheap prices and then once once it's going I mean they control it that's yeah, just money train to end right now because Exactly not an America buddy and people are horrors and they just go over there. Yeah, they take that money Got a great deal thinking about buying a jet I mean we've seen what they do.

1:52:25It's it's pretty amazing stuff You do know the story about the woman who was working on anti -gravity technology No, she was working on anti -gravity technology. She was originally from China and then disappeared and went back to China she apparently was making some breakthroughs and Came back to America and wound up dead I forget I should die but some some slippery circumstances where you like hmm like car accident or something like that like yeah Damn, yeah, it's like that's wild like the guy that came up with the hydrogen Yes, oh that guy. Yeah, the guy came with the water engine. That's a great story too But that this woman if they've developed some sort of anti -gravity technology and I've always wondered when we're looking at these things that people are calling UAPs or whatever you want to call I'm like how many of those are super sophisticated drones It's it's not zero It's not zero percent like yeah, I'm not saying that they're not that there's not a real phenomenon going on that people are seeing that Defies science and logic and might be in a super intelligent creature from somewhere else or a super intelligent thing from somewhere else If it's even biological at this point It might be that all life eventually becomes digital life and all life eventually becomes some sort of artificial intelligence Or at least connected to artificial intelligence.

1:53:47That might be like the pro progression of biological life That eventually create something way better than itself and that's what propagates the universe and If someone in this world has developed some sort of technology that's similar to what they use that's a huge advantage. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and That's the thing that gets me about all this UAP talk I'm like if some other country had or if we had something that was just a game changer Something didn't require any propulsion systems at all it relied on gravity And it bends space and time and can instantaneously traverse between one point in the sky and another That kind of technology is nuts and if that is in the hands of the United States government It would make sense that it would like help them to like spread this UFO nonsense.

1:54:40Yeah I mean do you You've dove into this more than anybody else. I know. I mean, what what do you think this? What do you think it all is? I think it's a bunch of things I think there is a possibility a very strong possibility that there's life out there and That if I was life out there and I was much more advanced than us. I would definitely visit us And there's also the fact that the the sightings kicked up in a huge way after 1945 after the the atomic bomb After they you know did the Trinity experiment and after they dropped the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki all those nuclear tests that they did in the 50s and the 60s That's exactly when the sightings start ramping up and if I was an intelligent life force From another planet.

1:55:29I really are all these crazy monkeys have nukes And then we'd have to you know Have to think okay, do we intervene? Well, it's if they below themselves up It will take so long for that planet to get back to a point where it has intelligent life again If they kill every person on this planet we're back to shrews and mice and fucking a couple of monkeys in the jungle How long before you can get a city again? How long before you can get a cell phone again? How many millions of years does it take? And if I was an intelligent life force that realized that this is an error that can be corrected. I would probably correct it I probably put a stop to the nukes.

1:56:07I probably Make a show of force hover over military bases shut down all of their electronics shut down all they just to let them know Yeah, I would probably do that But you know how much do they actually intervene and how many of them are there are there different ones? I mean if there's one that comes here what who's to say there's not a shit ton of different kinds some of them malevolent Some of them that only want us for our biology some of them that are just doing tests on us some of some of them that are You know kidnapping people and and erasing their memories and putting them back in the woods Those stories are too common.

1:56:46There's too many stories that are real fucking similar that like the Travis Walton story Have you heard that one? It's a guy was a logger in the 1970s. They it was in or was it Oregon? Oh did they make a movie about it? Yeah, yeah, yeah fire in the sky. Yeah, I've seen it crazy story kind of like that Do you know who who was at Chris blood? So no, if you heard of him. What's that one? Chris blood. So he's a He's a guy that had to experience as well. You've not heard of Chris blood. So maybe I haven't ever forgot. Yeah, it's possible Yeah, he it's kind of the same thing. It's Memories kind of gone and mm -hmm This is what it sounds like and they all have a very similar story.

1:57:26They get medical examinations And there's girls that are were pregnant and you know like newly pregnant and got abducted and also they weren't pregnant anymore They couldn't figure out what happened wow, I didn't know that. There's quite a few of those John Mac had this book John Mac was a psychologist who Was at Harvard who wrote this book? I think it's called abduction and it's all like him Interviewing people that have had these kind of experiences happen to them and this is this book was in the 1990s, right? So there was um You know, I don't think these people got to share stories where they could come up with the same story organically like today You you've heard so many stories online about UFO abductions or crash retrieval or something that you could formulate in your own mind A dream that seemed like these things that you had heard over and over and over again But when you go back to like Betty and Barney Hill Which one one of the first people that ever got abducted by aliens?

1:58:29They have the same sort of story as all these different people that didn't know anything about the phenomenon Didn't know anything about UFO abductions and then all sudden had one event in their life that freaked them out for the rest of their life And they take them through hypnotic progression and these people should hear the recordings of Betty and Barney Hill They're like yelling and screaming they're freaking out like no one thought about being abducted by aliens in the 1950s or whatever that was But these people have this wildfucking store that's super similar to all these different stories that John Mac talks about and Maybe there's different kinds of aliens.

1:59:07Maybe there's aliens that are just like our scientists They just come down here and study and report on like the state of the biological entity known as the human beings And visit and return and maybe they monitor us and watch us and make sure that we don't do anything really fucking stupid Like give us enough room to we figure it out on our own But don't don't intervene unless they're about to nuke themselves interesting. That's best case scenario Yeah Yeah, I don't know I don't know what all this is man. I just you know I I try to dive into it on the podcast and and have talked to you know handful of guys and I don't know man some people are 100 like Billy Carson's all in I found out about him on your show too.

1:59:55Oh really? Yeah, I'd seen a couple of clips of him But I'd never seen a long form interview of him until your show. That was a great episode. He's fun You know he was on my friend Andrew Schultz's podcast and Andrew was like we're not gonna check nothing We're just gonna let him go No fact checks. Let's just let's just have fun and see But when he starts talking about like those Ancient tablets. He's an expert in like the deciphering of all those ancient tablets And he's got a lot of information on that those things are fascinating because it's all the same stories even back then these flying ships and all these different depictions of things that came from the sky and these giants and the Anunnaki and all these different Things that came from some other place that had interaction with human beings.

2:00:38Yeah, he kind of like mixes it with with Biblical stuff. Mm -hmm, right That's kind of I don't know. That's what I lean towards with all this stuff to be honest with you is Maybe I think there's some consciousness aspect. I think there's uh, I I think there's I think it is the afterlife It's possible. That's for sure It's possible that whatever these things are that come here there from a some sort of another dimension and that we just don't have the ability to interact with that We're limited in our capacity as a biological entity to Interact with these dimensions that are real But we just can't access them.

2:01:20We can't get to it. We don't have the frequency. We don't have what it is But in some cases under duress under some situations in some you know Just like a person can be hypnotized just like a person can go into a trance I think there's a way every now and then that people can kind of access these realms And I think That's probably what some of these entities are. I think people are probably having real experiences with something that probably is real But that normally you cannot interact with. Yeah, yeah Did you have you ever looked into because I think I kind of group all this stuff in together but um If you if you looked into the remote viewing stuff.

2:02:01Yeah, yeah, dude. Yeah, that stuff pretty nuts. Yeah I had a remote. I did a this show called jorobin questions everything and we had uh remote viewers on We tried to get them to do things they couldn't really what wasn't really effective But I'm also like okay. This is an unnatural environment. It's a television show It's like weird pressure The you know skeptical people that are like looking at this and And I don't know if they're the real I think it's probably a skill that can be developed But I don't know how consistent it is. You know, it's it's like I don't believe in psychics But I do believe that sometimes you just know things and sometimes you get a premonition and some I think the connection to people How with each other is not as simple as like you call your friend up.

2:02:52Hey, I'm talking forever. I think we're connected Somehow quantumly. I think we're all connected in some sort of a weird undiscovered way and that's why like you think it about someone and they call you sometimes You know people say oh, that's just a coincidence Man, I don't know about all that because sometimes it's someone I haven't talked to for a fucking years And you'll be having a conversation with a buddy and you just start thinking about that guy and then also on your phone right And it happens all the time that's weird. That's I mean what they say we use 10 % of our brain That's on real, you know, I don't think that's real you don't no No, no, they they with that was they didn't really understand when they were saying that they didn't really understand What the brain does and what parts of the brain do and they thought that like we're only using 10 % no It's like different parts of the brain Have very different functions and under different circumstances different parts of the brain are activated I think just we have a limited understanding of the actual Function of the brain like the whole thing and how it's how it's how it's making chemicals and making psychedelic compounds and And hormones and epinephrine and nor epinephrine and all this different Dopamine and serotonin and how it regulates your system and changes the way you interact with the world It's all weird stuff, man.

2:04:11I don't think they completely have an like they can't recreate a human brain, you know, yeah, I You know some of this if you heard of Joe McMoticle. No, dude You you have to talk to him who's he he is remote viewer number one for the US, but he's he's But he's not like cookie or anything like that at all. He's really now. How do you not be cookie in your remote He just dude. He just to have a conversation with them. It's he's he's there. Okay. No weird vibes not from my end anyways, but But the way he you know, I asked him. I'm like well, how do you Like how does it how did it happen? Do you think does everybody have this or you know, I was just Pinging him with questions and he said he thinks we all have had it since the beginning and that You that I mean he was basically saying if you look at how animals communicate they kind of communicate telepathically and He was talking about you know caveman times You know used to point it shit grunt and not heads and look at things and everybody would know what you're thinking about and he goes and then We started traveling and in groups and then language was kind of Born and he goes language actually slowed down our initial form of communication which was you know, it wasn't maybe as descriptive, but it was just as deliberate as is is speaking a language and and and then you introduced technology and basically what he was kind of saying is you know that our brains have been kind of dove down from you know thousands and thousands of years of Technology coming out and language and all these other things and I lose the ability to exactly we We don't I mean you hear it all the time.

2:06:13You don't use it you lose it You know and so basically what he's saying is we're losing our instincts. I mean that and that makes sense if you don't use it I mean, isn't that what the appendix is in the isn't the appendix and organ that we no longer need anymore because we cook food Yeah, I don't know what is the the the the reason why the appendix is going away I think that's what it is. I think it's a change in diet over time as made it unnecessary So it's like slowly being phased out of the human anatomy And that's why rupture sometimes, but I don't think it has a real function anymore What did you stuff?

2:06:48What are you? The appendix kind of helping us in two ways both with the gut. It helps fight off invading pathogens That's one thing that is true when they take out your appendix like your immune system is not as good But also to repopulate the gut with this beneficial bacteria Astero after gastro intestinal issues. So what is how did the appendix form and why is the appendix like it's there's a thing that was speculated about what the origin of the appendix is and why we don't use it the same way we used to why do humans have an appendix where I'm shaped Modern research to believe the appendix is many key fund.

2:07:25Okay Okay, here it is go to the top back it where I'm shaped to be attached to the large intestine the human body It's an organ that is credited with very little significance and often remove indiscriminately to avoid complications due to infection However, modern researchers believe the appendix has many key functions in the human body And it protects the body's internal environment from infection What is the original origin of the appendix though? That was the thing that I had read is I think it was something about processing fiber vestigial okay Support the theory that the appendix of vestigial origin that was once used by our herbivorous ancestors This is it it was found that in herbivorous vertebrates the appendix is comparatively larger and it helped in the digestion of top Top herbivorous food such as bark of a tree So The thing is that like we're changing right we don't eat like that anymore So it's changing and it's it's it's function changes It makes sense that if we don't use the mind the same way our ancestors did before language We would probably lose this connection that animals do seem to have with each other Yeah, I mean, you know, there's all kinds of I mean if you've heard of people If you heard of people kind of How do I describe this?

2:08:44Yeah, my wife would just have in this conversation the other day if you heard of people that kind of um they start preparing for their death But they're not realizing they're preparing for their death. Yeah, I have heard of that. It's like a it's like a intuition that they're unaware that they're going to die And so they start they start preparing everything for their departure. Yeah, and not even realizing that You know that they're gonna They're gonna pass. Yeah, I have heard about that. You know, I mean, I think that's just another example of I think that we have Lost a lot of intuitions and and and we don't really know how to go back and exercise them That's that's kind of what I think I think it makes sense I think technology certainly Distracts human beings from human interactions and kids today are growing up more socially unbalanced and more They're their progress is retarded.

2:09:46There's something about the use of technology That it's certainly it's uh limiting kids abilities to interact with each other a person a person yeah And over time that's probably gonna be the norm You know, and if you wanted to think about The rise of spectrum disorders and lack of emotional connectivity and empathy that people have that that seem to have those especially like on the far ends of the spectrum and then Accentuate that with like added technology constant technology each technology is more and more invasive the population of people that have these problems It's like it's almost like we're moving towards becoming a different kind of person.

2:10:28Yeah, you know my um Um This person works for me turn me on to this podcast the other day and it was talking about how This is unverified, but it was talking what it was still fascinating conversation. They were talking about how How in I can't remember the amount of years, but humans will begin to lose their peripheral vision because they're looking at a phone so much That that that we're evolving we're evolving. I guess you could I don't know if I would call that evolving. Yeah, devolving Wow That makes sense. It does right totally and it's like shit go anywhere. That's what everybody's doing narrow band of focus Yeah, right and the Like if you look at most people's phone usage like what's the average person's phone usage?

2:11:17I bet screen times like four hours average I'll bet it's more than that. Okay, but do you let's say it's just four. Yeah, that's a giant chunk of your day Yeah, that's I mean you're up for 12 hours. It's 25 % of the day. So if 25 % of the day you're just looking like this That's got to have an ultimate effect on your vision damn So over time and especially if this becomes like completely normal for a thousand years Yeah, yeah, it wasn't a thousand years, man. It was like I mean I It was way it was within our lifetime. Yeah, yeah, just makes sense that would happen. But we're an adaptive organism We're adapt, you know weirdly it's it's uh This stuff all just scares the hell out of me.

2:12:03I think I mean, I think Psychedelics plays a role in all this you know and in and accessing You know other information Yeah, I think so too. I think it's a giant crime that stuff that stuff's illegal. It's limited And it's limited into like you know right now they're doing some research on it and you know The FDA was gonna approve MDMA therapy for benefits up for veterans rather dealing with PTSD and they they stopped it and they they decided more tests need to be done Meanwhile, you're seeing like real results from people life changing results And there's a lot of people out there that need help and they should be doing something and it's not hurting anybody Dude, do you want to hear the the best story I've ever heard from her?

2:12:48Yeah, so I got a I got one of my best friends former green bray worked with them at the agency for a long time He was blown up survived survived like the worst fucking car bomb I've ever seen like got up walked away Dude's head's like right next to the car Then gets out I don't want to mention his name because I'm gonna bring up some uh symptoms But he then he he'd got he got fucking shot in the head by a 38 special round in the middle of the road and survived it and um I've stayed with him through this whole process went anyways Couldn't walk without a cane Was bed ridden five six days out of every week hadn't had sex with his wife and over two fucking years couldn't go outside without sunglasses on Because yeah, because of light sensitivity and I've been telling him eight You need to do you have to go down and like do this.

2:13:50I became thing I Nothing else is working. I think this shit's gonna change. I wasn't even aware of all this stuff I know about the bed ridden stuff and But he was hiding it a lot hiding a lot of that shit from me and his wife Gotten called me and so I I Got him piped in and to this program went down did I begin and did five a meal Left his fucking cane there went home Banged his wife doesn't need the sunglasses anymore and is not bed ridden And that was about six months ago and I just talked to him the other day. It's he's still like Good to go that's wild and that dude this should happen like When did he up that it was four years four years of like living through that shit I mean cracks goal one I began treatment one I began treatment done I was like do you think you'll go back and like see what Like if more benefits show up and he was like no, I'm not I'm not gonna do it But he's like not unless I start to slip but he's like I'm I'm like good.

2:15:00I'm at peace. I'm I feel Fucking great. That's incredible, you know, imagine if there was a drug that could do that There is but imagine if there was a drug that the pharmaceutical drug companies could sell that could do that Yeah, there would be treatment centers everywhere. Yeah. Are you suffering from PTSD? We can cure you Yeah here at iBogenesis and then you go into that place and you get hooked up It'll be just like fucking these GLP ones that they're trying to give people to lose weight Be everywhere. Yeah, everybody would have everyone has stress. Everyone has trauma come on in. Yeah, and they just be selling it Yeah, you know and uh, I mean even minds like I haven't I haven't drank in Almost three years now really yeah, God just I went down and did that I Be gained experience and like it was just like have you done I began now Why not What was good about it tell me what it was like Well for me very effective for people with addiction.

2:15:59Yeah, well there it is right there right I can't drink it almost three years, but um, I mean it was like do you want like the little sure whole experience? Yeah, yeah um Yes, so I went down to what down to Mexico and I just kept having these guys come on my show and first one was Eddie Gallagher He was talking about psychedelics and I was like oh no that shits for hippies. I'm not fucking and uh and And then you know the the one that really got me was um, I had this guy on his name DJ Shipley and he like I saw that one you saw that one. Yeah, it's great. Dude DJ is a fucking beast bro Yeah, I follow that guy and show it like Takes Navy sealed to a whole different level, but anyways But yeah, he like one out of his way after the after uh, we recorded and he was like hey dude like You should really fucking think about going down there and um, I was like all right Well, you know, I've done all the I've done like a ton of research.

2:17:05I've talked to a bunch of guys about it I'd understand like how it works now and so Fuck it, oh girl And so I went down there because uh, I just wanted to be more in the moment with my with my family I got two little kids now and And uh, so I went down there and that was like I felt like I was kind of like through the PTSD type stuff and and uh Maybe not but But uh, I wanted I just wanted to get rid of anxiety and be in the moment with my family and duh duh duh duh duh duh and so I went down and Did the eye began thing and you took we took these pills and like the I didn't get a lot of visuals But the first visual I got was I was just sitting there like looking in this mirror Shaking this fucking maraca And uh, my head's like I was like all right this shit is not working.

2:18:01Well then my head like It like split open like oh In the mirror yeah, dude It was like I watched my head like peel like a fucking banana like it was just like And then and then another head like just Blossomed out of it. Whoa. Yeah, I was really Uh, odd and then I was like All right, it's definitely fucking kick it in So I'm gonna I'm gonna lay back and um and uh, it was kind of To me like the whole experience maybe I guess I just lost total concept of time it didn't feel it was like 12 hours, but it It didn't feel like 12 hours, but it didn't really feel like five minutes either, but um I got like this life review kind of thing And just had these tv screens it looked like all black Like you're in space or something and then these two lines of tv screens that were going in my peripheral vision And what was playing in those tv screens was and it was moving like it kind of a slow pace And so like I could see what was going on in the tv screens through my peripheral But if I tried to concentrate on any one particular thing Then they would like all just disappear until I until I stopped trying to Like concentrate on one thing and then they had all appear again And I could like look at it through my peripheral and I'd I'd be like oh, you know, that was Uh, that was in bag dad.

2:19:45That's when I was five years old and my dad was like Y 'all and I mean and that was this and it was like But it wasn't like I wasn't like reliving um Traumatic events they were it was just like Passing me by like recording. Yeah, like old VHS tape. Yeah, and um, so I just let him like Pass and then I went into some other stage which I don't really understand But it was a bunch of like these walls of Stuffed animals and I was kind of like going through this maze and then like the last thing I talked about before I I Before I did the experience was China and so then I had like this horrible This horrible thing about the Chinese invasion, but um But what came out of that like it's like oh well that that doesn't sound very good.

2:20:38Well yeah, what came out of that I lost 11 pounds Uh in literally one week. It's a week long type of experience. I lost 11 fucking pounds It's also heavy metals detoxer by the way, so that's probably Probably I'd like some heavy metals blocking me up or something, but um Though the I the whites of my eyes like cleared up Like and it wasn't just me. I'd like journaled all this shit down and then I didn't tell my wife any of this stuff And I came home and she's like Uh Your eyes look like a lot lighter like the way Whites look a lot lighter Whiter and and and my brown eyes looked like they had lightened up.

2:21:26Huh. Yeah And then it was also like I had realized Everything that I was ingesting that was poison. It was like this going back to intuition. It was like this intuition of Like I just I was like, you know, I didn't come I didn't go down there to quit drinking. You know, I just It just fucking happened man like I was just like I don't I don't think I'm gonna drink anymore Hmm, so I haven't had a drink and Like I said just under three years and do you think you had a drinking problem? Oh fuck yeah, man. I had a drinking problem Big drinking problem um But but you didn't think it at the time. Well, I my drinking problem had had digressed quite a bit so I mean I used to I used to Drink up close to two fifths of odd good day.

2:22:22Whoa. Yep, and um but you know then And that was coming out of the agent said I didn't have anything to do really and and uh, you know Processing a lot of kind of what had happened over the past 14 years Didn't have any friends was severely depressed whatever man. Uh, loved a party um You know and that just it was wake up drink Many bottles of vodka all day long and then uh at night, you know, I'd crack a fifth But by the time by the time I went uh there it was It was like a probably two bottles of wine instead of two bottles of vodka tonight still holy shit Yeah, it's a lot of wine. Well, I mean that's yeah, it is but um Anyways, uh came back and I just didn't want the wine anymore.

2:23:19I used to take Adderall uh Stuck into that Didn't need that didn't need this ambient anymore. I didn't need anything and uh cold turkey cold turkey man weed Quit weed for about six months and then And then uh Yeah, then I went back but and even sugar man. I quit sugar for about six months Um, and it was you know the funny thing is man like it was zero effort It wasn't like I'm not fucking drinking and I'm not gonna do sugar and I'm not gonna smoke weed and uh No more Adderall. I just didn't want it and there was no Um There was just no urge there was no addiction left it was gone Wow, you know, and that's the thing they say about ibogaine that it uniquely rewires your brain Yeah, and there's some sort of a scientific understanding of how it works But the fact that it's illegal in this country is bananas.

2:24:18Yeah, I mean how many people are suffering through opioid addiction It's it's an enormous number and if there was a thing that we are aware of That could help all of our citizens that are struggling right now listening to this as people are struggling And there's a thing and it's illegal in this country Yeah, as far as I know I don't think people are dying from ibogaine You know ibogaine was uh, I was very funny that hunter chose this but hunter is Thompson used that during was it the Magover in the magover in elections. It was like 72 whatever it was and when he rode um Fear and loathing on the campaign trail So he created a rumor that ed muskie who was one of the candidates had a severe ibogaine addiction and the Brazilian scientists were coming to Visit him and and give him this treatment and it became such a rumor and it spread so far and it was that it started affecting him And he was giving campaign speeches and he was denying it and he was all sweating and he looked like a maniac and hunter essentially derailed this guy's campaign By saying that he was addicted to ibogaine I think ibogaine would be impossible to be seen if you can find hunter on the dick cavity where he admits that he started the rumor It's it's very funny.

2:25:38Wow. I fucking love that dude. I've got to wish I met him. Yeah me till he was a fucking maniac That would have been wild But the fact that he used ibogaine was really funny and ironic because that's the thing that gets you to quit Addictions. Yeah, I mean, it's not a fun experience man Believe it muskie was eating ibogaine. I never said he was I said there was a rumor in a walkie that he was which was true and I started the rumor in a walkie That guy he fucked everybody up because he would do actual journalism mixed in with fiction and You know and called it gonzo journalism I mean essentially started a new kind of journalism It's like you you there was a an understanding that some of this was not real and you had to kind of like Figure out what was real what wasn't real and he was just gonna do it his way He was a cool dude man He was a cool dude that would have been a hell of an interview.

2:26:35Yeah. Oh my god Yeah, but the fact that he chose ibogaine is kind of funny. Yeah, yeah Yeah, cuz it they say it's like the one that you would You can't get addicted to honestly. I don't think I could get addicted to any of them But yeah, I don't think so either I've heard of people to get addicted to certain psychedelics But I think there's I think there's people that do psychedelics to learn more about themselves And I think there's people that do it to escape And I think they escape reality with it and then they get used to escape and then they choose that as their reality And they do it way too much.

2:27:07I think there's abuse with everything. Yeah, I think you can certainly abuse at least some psychedelics But the benefits of them far outweigh the negatives and there's a lot of people that are hurting in this country And they should have access to all the different things that could help them. Yeah And the fact that you have to go to Mexico to do that. It's ridiculous man. I mean it's fucking working Yeah, I mean it's working and And it's it's it's just like why the what why why why why can't you like let us I'm speaking You know for the better and population right now, but like why just why can't you just let us fucking get better right?

2:27:51Like everybody knows the 22 a day You know, which is actually like 40 something a day of veterans that are killing themselves and this shit is a fucking game changer And but I don't think big farmers gonna allow it I just I think that's what the hold up is well Maybe that's something that RFK junior can help yeah if they get in the office Yeah, if they get in the office. I mean, but when you hear about the five kill teams and you hear about all this different shit that's going on I mean October Hasn't even started yet you got a full month of October and who knows what the fucking happened? Yeah up and leading up to the elections Yeah, I don't think they're gonna let up I don't think so whoever they are and and not only that but it is you know forget about the organization like to forget about like that There are people out there probably like you run and maybe state actors or who knows that's trying to kill Trump What about this the fucking general cooks that have been buying all this rhetoric Every day that he's a threat to democracy and they think that this is the one thing that can give them meaning in their life the one Great act that they can accomplish to go out and kill Trump I mean it's I don't know man.

2:29:07I mean it's there's just There's so much that That goes into this like that first shooter right that what was he 20 years old? Yeah, you know 20 years old Then he got you know trumps basically been in the media for what about eight years you think he showed up What about a year before before the 2016 election right kind of went in so we're going on what eight years now of of the media just slamming him over and over is a threat to democracy. This is gonna ruin the country You know, so if you take that 20 year old, I mean eight so he's since he was 12 years old That's all he's heard. Yeah 12 fucking years old.

2:29:51That's all he's heard and little kids have no ability to turn so Is it is it a very well orchestrated act to kill him or is it is it Media manipulation that nobody really thought too far into this and now it's all now we're seeing the consequences you know of of what that kind of Pushing an agenda like that will do. It's probably both things, you know, it's probably both things. It's probably all the above And the fact that 24 % of Americans think or pulled mayor obviously pulled because those are the dumbest motherfuckers of all time anyway people that answer polls You always have to think of that, you know Like 99 % of people don't answer polls.

2:30:39So out of that 1 % 24 % of those retards are dumb enough to think that it's a good idea to shoot Trump Yeah, and that the American people shouldn't be able to decide on their own. That's what's really crazy They think they're right and you're wrong and no matter what they have to stop you from getting your vote They have to stop you from voting in the in direction that you are thinking you are gonna vote for It's just a scary time. It's scary time for the Republic really is yes, it is weirdly scary And also like weirdly chaotic in the sense that this is all happening at the same time as the rise of podcast and social media and And new ways to get information so more people are aware of how fuck we are now than like during the Vietnam war Yeah, people were against the Vietnam war and you know They're against fighting the troops in Vietnam war, but they didn't really know what was going on They didn't have like full access to it like we have now.

2:31:37Yeah, yeah I don't know where this ends man. I mean part of me thinks you know, it's just it's Part of me thinks we're just gonna end in a some type of a civil war That's terrifying. Yeah, yeah, I mean that seems like It seems like it's definitely being pushed in that direction I mean, I think it's I think we're all kind of already there. It's just not it's just gonna look a lot different cold war, right? Yeah, yeah, you see these states banding together You know, you see blue states banding together you see bright states banding together You see you know a lot of governors aligning send and send a national guard down here to Texas, you know to to To try to secure the border You got you know these extreme I mean Whether whether you agree with me or not they are they're extreme and so you know like like the abortion stuff like you got states that are Are making these like super harsh abortion laws like we're gonna hunt you down if you get one and throw your ass in prison and I think it I can't remember how many states now have passed constitutional carriers like 20 I can't remember it's I think there's only like a state or two left that need constitutional carry But I mean, I think the basically what I'm getting at is I think the lines are kind of like being drawn Right now or the alliances are kind of forming up like hey, let's pass these super Super red laws the super left law or blue laws and and it'll drive everybody out of the state that we want and it'll Do you know what I'm getting?

2:33:21I do know you know, I think this is all like kind of happening naturally Yeah, I don't know what the solution to any of this stuff is I hope it's a greater understanding That we develop over time where we figure out how to communicate better and work together And I think some of that can be Facilitated through AI if it's done correctly if it's like a real open source AI Where people can get a real better understanding of the actual mechanisms instead of like Whatever beliefs you have and why the system works the way it is if you can just have it laid out Yeah factually laid out where there couldn't be no shenanigans.

2:34:00You can't deny it I mean, I think one way would just be having podcasters and and journalists I mean how the fuck would you do this but you know one thing on Like on my show and I kind of went off the rails a little bit The last month I got a little probably more political than I want I was I hate ball to expand yeah me too I mean it's just it's the kind they come up all the time to the country yeah, you know every time I dive in I Feel like though I feel like I fucked a hooker on a on a rusty couch You know what I mean? It's like I don't think this shit's gonna wash off But You know what I'm talking about I do I do but But anyways where I was going is I you know I people have just lost the fucking ability to think for themselves Like they can't critical think anymore and You know so like one thing that I do on mine is if I bring somebody on that's I'm like Don't say Trump 500 times on my show Let's not say like fuck the left fuck the right Like let's not say these fucking Democrats and these fucking Republicans like just just give me the policy Just give me the problem just like let's just leave all that shit out Because if you leave all that all those adjectives out Then it forces people to go Well shit, I don't really know it forces them to formulate their own opinion because they don't know what their side thinks about That particular issue Unless you're talking about abortion or something like that But you know what I mean if you leave that out of if you leave if you can leave those adjectives out Then I think Common sense will start to make a comeback because it won't be so tribal it will be like well Actually, I don't really I don't I don't know where the party that'll I align with Stands on this so I'm gonna have to formulate my own fucking opinion here and Man that would do wonders.

2:36:12We're definitely need more people that are willing to do that too Because some people just don't have the time or the interest to form their own opinions on things Yeah, it's so much easier to just agree with whatever their side believes. Yeah How did you get started in doing a podcast like what was the motivation behind it? Oh Well, I used to teach weapons and tactics and I taught Keanu Reeves for John look three and And then I got a lot of hate. I'll just put it that way. I got a lot of hate from from the From the special operations community from the two -way community and And I was like, you know what man like it's very egocentric community anyways, and so I was like I'm like fucking dumb with this shit and so I just started Did I didn't know what to do?

2:37:07I was like doing camping stove reviews and I bought a bunch of fucking outpackas and put them in my front yard And I thought I was gonna be a farmer and like yeah, and then but you know what I did. I was like I was like dude I'm so fucking tired of like my guys Kill on themselves and going into depression and suicide attempts and I got sick of Of the same talking heads on TV kind of documenting what was going on over there It was a bunch of people who had never even stepped foot In any of those war zones documenting what happened over there. So So I just started and I'd built like I don't know maybe 250 ,000 subs on YouTube from like gun stuff and so I started I was like I got a one we got to document the history two There's a major fucking suicide epidemic happening.

2:38:07So let's talk about some guys that had Hit attempted I was I mean I tried to kill myself But let's let's get some guys that have really been through it dug themselves out of it and and And let's so it's so it's we're documenting history the way it happened We are talking about the the veteran crisis that's going on and how people got out of it And then it also and then at the end of the every episode was hey, let's like let's talk about your business You know because it's stories what sells so let's let's do the whole story and get everybody like super attached to you Let's document the history talk about your vulnerabilities What it was like trans re transitioning back into civilian life How fucked up it was how you ruined your family how you tried to kill yourself all that shit How you came out of it and then let's talk about your business and so I mean these guys would come on and and You know their business would like jet launch overnight, which I'm sure you you know But and that I just did I just like doing it I liked fucking helping people and I and and But I'll tell you Like I started it was awesome.

2:39:27I loved it. I still I uh there's nothing else I'd rather do I started I started feeling a lot of resentment um To my guess because they would come on my show And then they would like pass me up business wise like that And I was like fuck man like what What the fuck do I have to do to make a business out of this shit like I'm great at like jet launching everybody else's shit But I'm not making any fucking money here and I got a family to support and This isn't gonna work out and then I don't know what happened man But then something just like switched like God just stepped in and was like you're doing good shit like I'm gonna I'm gonna bless you and and I just like hit a turning point and um And now I just talked to whoever I'm interested in But but what you're doing a great show and I think that's all it takes But do you do a great show and then the beautiful thing about social media and YouTube and all these different things is a people could just share it Like I've had a few people I think uh Billy Carson.

2:40:40I think somebody sent me that one and you know It's just like someone would say hey you should check this out You know and just send you a text message that's such a massive advantage of YouTube and uh and spotify on a lot of these apps is that someone could just send you a show Like you would really love the show check it out And then you just click it and then also it's playing you know and I play it in my car can play it in the sauna and I'm listening to this and it It's a complete new thing that's available anytime you want you can pause it No, I know it's you. I know like I like one of the things I like about your show is I can 100 % tell This is just you Talking to these guys like what did you do like hot okay explaining that to me like it's just you and In this world of talking heads That has become a very refreshing alternative to a lot of people and if you do a good show like yours It just grows.

2:41:37It's just people will find it You know people share it and it just organically grows. Well, thank you for checking it out. Hey my pleasure How did why did you start yours? I started just on a laptop Answering questions like with a friend of mine my friend Brian or I started with We were just fucking around we thought it'd be fun to just do for fun You know, I always wanted to do a radio show, but I thought no one's ever gonna give me a radio show You know when I was When I was touring doing clubs back in the day where you would have to do morning radio I would like to do it. I would like because I have crazy things that I'm interested in crazy stories So I'd come in do these morning radio shows And I'd be like wow, what a great job out being a bit morning radio game Yeah, I'd fuck up and swear that wouldn't work and then the rise of podcast happened and you know Adam Corolla had one and you know, there's a bunch of other ones and then opian Anthony Anthony Kumia from opian Anthony started doing his own show called live from the compound Where he's doing like karaoke holding a machine gun and he's out of his fucking mind.

2:42:42He built a Television studio in his basement And I was like fuck he can do that and do that online like I need to start doing something So we started out just doing this little oh and also the Tom Green show Tom Green had his own like internet talk show And I was a guest on it along with for my podcast So I was like he's got to figure out how to make money out of this like you could see the the the seeds of my podcast being planted While was on his show. I was like this is amazing no executives no one talking to you That and then I actually even was in talks with the company that was doing it with him to do my own thing with them But I just decided to do it on my own.

2:43:20I'm like I don't do nothing with nobody I wanted it to just to be 100 % me just fucking around And in the beginning all my friends like what the fuck are you doing like why you waste your time They'd come over my house and my kids were really young at the time So like in the early days like you would hear we were in one of my spare bedrooms with a desk set up and you'd hear mommy She took my thing The background the kids are arguing with each other So it was you know from that move into like a little Studio rented a little office space somewhere and and then moved into a warehouse and got a real studio And then started having security there and then started uh, well, I should have a fucking gym here Let's put a gym in and start you know bringing guys to train with and and then The it just got big All organic.

2:44:12I never did ads for it. I never did put a billboard up I never went on other people's podcasts and said please watch my podcast never did any of that never promoted it It just grew that's awesome all but it's all the same reason why yours is growing. It's just I talked to whoever I want to talk to yeah, you know, I watched your show a bunch of times reached out to you on Instagram What's up? Yep Yeah, but the way you do it and the way I do it is I think that's why it's interesting Because I can tell like when you're talking to that guy that was talking about the direct energy weapons and an article that crazy shit Like you wanted to hear what the guy had to say yeah, like you know, this is why he was on there You know, this isn't like some producer has told you the list of guests that you're gonna have for the week And you're not really interested in it and you got to interview some fucking kid in a boy band, you know, like I can't do it Yeah, I can't do it.

2:45:05I like no reason to do it Yeah, you know when I When I started I was We started in the attic. It was me and my wife. We had these shit cameras. It had like 30 minute timer So I was my glove or was my first uh guest and so my wife was like running back and forth Resetting these 30 minute fucking timer cameras and I'm trying to run the sound and listen to what the hell Mike's in and I'm like This is fucking awesome For a long time. What year did you start? I started first one got pumped out Christmas of 2019 wow Yeah, well, that's also a great example because a lot of people want to say that the podcast market is too saturated now I've heard people say that oh, it's too hard to make it in the podcast market.

2:45:49I'm like I don't believe that Yeah, I don't believe that. I think if you got a good show, it's gonna rise same here and that's you Thank you. Thank you. Well, I studied the hell out of your show and uh when I was doing it and and you know, I wanted to I just wanted to make it different. I didn't want to Copy the the red curtain and You know what I mean and you made it yours Yeah, you really did and it's uh that's the great thing about this and we need more voices like yours out there More different people that are doing the same kind of thing, you know, following their own interests Talking to people honestly having these long -term long -form podcasts like the the one with the guys studying the UFOs I think that's like four and a half hours long, right which one?

2:46:35Is it uh what's his name John Alexander? Yeah, I did just was like nine hours Yeah, John Alexander this one is how long is this one? Let me check resume Hey, six hours on YouTube six hours. Yeah Yeah, it's six hours in a couple of minutes. Yeah, have you talking in this guy about paranormal programs in the government? I don't want to let him go No, it was amazing. It's crazy stuff, man. Thank you. Well listen, Sean. It was great to meet you. I really appreciate you I appreciate what you're doing. I appreciate how you do it and It's good to become friends. Hey, thank you for having me, Joe. My pleasure to be here.

2:47:19All right Bye everybody. Oh watch the show Sean Ryan show. It's on everything right? Yeah, all right. Cheers. All right. Bye everybody