#2216 - Luke Bryan

27:29Indeed, you know, my eyes are like fuzzy and we're fishing and I tell my guy with him like, Hey, I'm going to go to the helicopter and get a beer or something. And dude, I get there and I pop my beer and I'm like, I look down the river and I'm like, fuck, that is a fucking grizzly coming toward my buddy. And I went, Jay. And dude, it was slim and like a damn, it was lean and like a greyhound. Not, I wouldn't say lean, but it hadn't, it hadn't got all fat on salmon yet. Well, it comes down the bank and jumps in and we ease back to the helicopter. We look back, here comes another grizzly, literally 30 yards from us.

28:18And I'm like, we get there and I'd left my beer on the bank and my grizzly sticks his tongue in my beer and then he jumps in the river. I run, grab the beer, drink, I'm like, grizzly spit, anyway, the helicopter pilot goes, you did not drink a beer. I had to sip, I had to. But that's like, I mean, he just like, striccanosis. Wild shitty thing I get from that. Some berry infection or whatever, salmon, but boosts out. So listen, dude, we get on the helicopter and the pilots like, man, they're, they're getting too comfortable. We take off fly a mile down the river.

28:57I already had my fly rod together. I never broke it down. So I sat it in the little basket and we land. I take off about 200 yards, start fishing. And I had, I had to slide down this like 20 foot cut bank where the river cut the bank. I look across the river. Here comes a grizzly bear galloping. Oh boy. On the other side of the river. And I'm like, well, I've already seen the other two mature ones. And I was like, well, that's a baby grizzly. That's, I was like, that's cute. Dude, that grizzly hits that bank on the other side of that river and jumps about 20 feet in the air and lands in that river.

29:38It looked like a, a Volkswagen VW bug hit that river. I take off to the helicopter. All my guys are like, get here, get here. A mother and two, two of the babies were on my tail. Oh my God. And when I got to the helicopter, dude, ruined my whole trip. I couldn't realize that's going to get scary when you're on the mothers. Oh, they're, they're the ones that, um, they fuck everybody up in two seconds. Yeah, they don't play any games. When they have their cops with them, they don't take any chances. Like, I'm going to incapacitate this dude. Yeah. Fuck him. It is, uh, so that was my, that was my grizzly encounter.

30:20I wish all these people that get to vote, unlike BC when BC outlawed grizzly bear hunting. I wish all those people that experience, you should have to experience what it's actually like there. You should have to see, well, I have to see the population, you see what it's like experiencing them. These aren't teddy bears. And for you saying, you shouldn't be able to manage the population as wildlife biologists say it should be managed. You're putting people in danger, especially people that live up there. The thing about it with me, now listen, I grew up deer hunting my whole life, ducks, dove, clail.

30:52And man, I always had a soft spot for bears. And probably I still, it's not like I got to go shoot bears every year. I mean, whatever. But when you find out, when you hear you are a hunter and there are, like when I met John and Jenny and they were like, look, there are so many that are, that need to be managed. I was like, man, that's cool. Let's go, let's go do a bear hunt. Had a great time and didn't, you know, didn't get all heady with killing a bear. I mean, I know guys in Tennessee in Gatlinburg, Joe, I mean, dude, they are darting black bears off second story moat up holiday in balconies.

31:35They're digging in, I mean, they're digging in canning, you know, vending machines walk and I'm like, dude, it's just a matter of time. Sometimes when we walk out their balcony and these, they're going to get, they're going to get got right there. 100 % and they dart them and move them back into the smokey mountains. And then you know what happened in New Jersey, right? The governor ran on this policy of banning the grizzly bear hunt and he got in or excuse me, the black bear hunt. In Jersey, in Jersey. Jersey has the most black bears per capita in the country, which is crazy. I'm going to send you something because I sent this to Cam last night because it's nuts.

32:10This dude just shot the state record. So it's back in. Yes, it's back in immediately. Because they had so many interactions. Joe, my mother lives in Mexico Beach, Florida on the panhandle out over there too. And they like trash cans turned over every day. Crazy amounts in South Georgia and Florida. Yeah, that's it. So I have a photo of the bear, Jamie, I'm going to send it to you next to the dude who killed it. That's a good one. Yeah, I'll send you this too. But look at that, the size of that bear. So this is in New Jersey. This is New Jersey. This is New Jersey. I never heard of it. That's a 770 pound bear in New Jersey.

32:55I never, I didn't know they were, they were up there that they're dense. Dents with bears. I have a buddy who lives out there. He says he's all the time. So down in the furthest, most southern corner of Georgia, Bambres, Georgia, and all that. And then Mexico Beach, Florida, around like Seminole, I mean, they're everywhere down there. They're all over the place. You get that photo that dude laying next to it. Yeah, this is the size of that thing. Now that, that article says 800 pounds. That's from several broadheads. It says 880. But the other article said 770. It looks it's big. Whatever the actual size it is, it's big.

33:31Look at that several hole. Well, it's, you know, like said, I'm not the, that's a perfect shot. I think there's healthy numbers of all of it. And like I said, when I see, you know, when you see, I don't know wolves and elks. Well, there's more than healthy numbers. Okay. But you know, it's 770. Oh, gutted, 770 gutted. That's what it is. So they waited in at 770 pounds gutted. So they think it was about 880. Holy shit. Holy shit. Yeah, you see, they got it in a slide. They had to put it in a, well, that's crazy. Man, there's so many of, and for people who don't know, people eat bear and bears good.

34:15It tastes well. And, you know, the sad part about, I think, California, you know, the, the whole, um, the home, you know, the gallbladder deal. I don't know much about that. But, you know, yeah, there was a black market for black bear gallbladder. In some, some cultures, I think it's medicine. And, you know, so they were killing black bears just for their gallbladder. Yeah. And I don't, I think that was overblown. I don't think it's going to affect the population. I'm guessing, especially in places like New Jersey, how are you going to affect that population? They're, they're everywhere there.

34:49You ever see the, the fights they have in far rock away? What's far rock away? Far rock away in New Jersey. He's like a nice suburb. It's like a nice, favorite giant bears. Jamie, pull that video. Giant bears. Well, did you ever see the guy's front lawn? Did you ever see the guy that filmed like the 10 minute grizzly fight? This might be, oh, yes. I did see that. That was insane. But that's where grizzlies are supposed to be. This isn't a fucking neighborhood. And these are big bears. And they're duke it out on this guy's nice lawn. They go tumbling down the stairs and they start fighting in the street.

35:24And people are watching. And they're probably fighting over trash cans. Look at that. So look at the size of these fuckers. Imagine like you're watching TV here.

35:38So these dudes, they duke it out. This is like, Jamie, how long is this video? It's like a 10 minute video, six minute video. So six minutes, for six minutes, these dudes duke it out. They, they pile out into the street. They're biting each other. And this guy's filming from a car. And you see it as it like trumbles down, like, yeah, pull it down. So when they're in this, so they come tumbling down the hill, you know, full UFC style, duke it out. Passed by this guy's track of this guy's mailbox. Look at him. It goes on forever. And they're out in the street. This is a nice neighborhood. And you have huge predators in front of a Volvo.

36:22Fuck. And this guy was trying to ban the hunt. Hey, pal, there's plenty of these bears. You should hunt them. Because if you don't hunt them, they're going to hunt you. Well, they're going to, you know, that's the thing. I think it's no different than, I mean, not grew up in South Georgia with gators and, yeah, same. You get one comfortable with you, man. And it's not good. It is not good at all. What's the problem that we're dealing with here is ballot biology. It's all people that are very emotional. Most of them live in cities. Before I ever hunted bear, before I ever hunted at all, I was like, kill a bear.

36:58Why, why didn't asshole? You know, I mean, asshole to kill bear. And then you get it. I'm the same, I was kind of the same way, but you probably had more hunting experience. I grew up in white tail hunting. And I remember a man, you know, being a 14 year old kid shooting a deer and having remorse. But then you need to have that remorse too, as a hunter. You need to understand. You're taking a life. Yes. And you need to, and I tell my boys that my boys have grown up in it seriously. And I'm like, Hey, man, hold up. Right. Let's just don't run up to the, run up to it, chunk it in the machine, just, just do a little homage.

37:37Right. So go ahead, but that, yeah. But the remorse, go ahead. The, the remorse is important. It's a part of the experience. Like you, you are now connected to the food that you're going to eat. Right. And I think that's what most people don't have. And I think, I think that's bad for us. I think all of human existence has been wrapped around hunting animals. And we hunted them ourselves forever. And then we eventually figured out agriculture. But when we hunt, we hunted them ourselves most of the time that humans were human. And we had this deep connection to this animal because it's animals going to sustain our family.

38:14And they used it. They took the, the, the skin from it and they made all kinds of things. They took the tendons. They made strings for bows. They, the fur, yeah, it's what their clothes were made out of. They ate all the organs. They ate everything. It's sustained everybody. And that was how people lived. And then when people stopped living like that, we got a little confused. I know people that eat meat, like my wife was at dinner with her friends. And, um, that the, they were from England. And one of the friends said, uh, where's your husband? And she said, oh, he's, he's, uh, elk hunting. And, and the guys made some sort, while he's cutting a steak, made some sort of like, oh, that's a trochus.

38:53Why does he do that? And she goes, why are you eating meat? You didn't, like, you paid a supermarket hitman to go kill that fucking steak. Like, this is so stupid. But when you're removed from it culturally, and England is basically removed from it culturally, this road deer there and there's some stag. Stag, yeah. But for the most part, England has a very small hunting population. And I believe bow hunting is actually outlawed there. It's outlawed in a lot of places in Europe. It's outlawed in Scotland. It's outlawed in a lot of places. So there's like a deep ignorance as to what's going on and what it is.

39:26And then they have judgment based on these cultural norms of like, and there's moved media depictions, media depictions of hunters in movies. They're never the good guys. They're always pieces of shit. The hunters are always assholes. They're always drunk. They're always, you know, trying to kidnap women or kill somebody, right? They're always like torturing an animal. There's always something where someone has to come in and fuck up the hunters because hunters are, they're portrayed as bad guys in movies. Yeah. And then, and listen, you know, the success rate of the proper ethical things always line up.

40:01That, that, you know, you don't, the success rate doesn't always go like you wanted it to. Right. And, but, um, you know, the fact that hunters still are, are working every day just to keep hunting. And the fact that hunting is declining so bad. It took a little uptick during, because during COVID, people are like, Hey, man, this, well, if there's no food, my buddy lived in Asheville and he sent me a photo in the middle of the pandemic. He goes, dude, he goes, there's no meat. And he was going down the meat aisle. And he's like filming it. He's like, there's no fucking meat here. One of the best things that's just naturally happened at our house.

40:43And my wife is, you know, my wife's like typical house, wife plays tennis, great shape. Doesn't, you know, when she kind of eats like a bird, when she does eat, but man, she will call me and she'll go, Hey, let's have Elk night. And, because we keep our freezer in my garage, and I've got all my tackle in there. And she has, through the years, understood, like, Hey, I'm going to run out to the freezer. We're going to do taco night. I'm going to throw all the Elk meat in the sink, start throwing it. And man, over the last five years, I've woke up and we haven't had, we haven't had, you know, beef cattle and hamburger tacos, baguettes, bowling days.

41:26What we haven't eaten in five years at my house. And it just, it takes you a minute to go, Hey, put it in the freezer and then plan your, plan your dinner. You know, we all get busy with kids and stuff like that. But I'm so proud of her that she'll call me and be like, Hey, I'm going out of the freezer. Do you want me to get these Elk tenderloins? Because by the time me and my, I got three children that go out there with me now and two or three of us will get one. I mean, we got enough meat. Like it's awesome. That's the best food. It's so good for it. Man, when you pad out an Elk patty hamburger, like, your hands have nothing on it.

42:05Right. Like, I mean, you could take beef patty and just like, it's just like, factories, it's like talking, you know, that's also why I taste so good. Right. Which we got it. There's a time to place for that. It's pretty cool that Elk gets that. And they still have to add a little bit of pork fat to Elk just to keep it. But I give a lot of meat away. And whenever I do, when I get text back, I get excited. People like, damn, this is so good. And it makes me feel better. It does make you feel like there's something about your game and get energy from it. Well, yeah. And yeah, when you can go like we, uh, in my place, uh, in my dear place in Southern Tennessee, yeah, man, we, we just, we make sure, man, we got, I got a big walking cooler there.

42:50And if we, if we're not going to take something in there, I put, I've had some red stag up my place in Tennessee. I did a high fence down there. And uh, so between stag and whitetail and elk, you know, we're moving, we're moving meat around and making sure. Yeah. Are they roaring on your property? They do. That's the craziest sound. It's the bass. The elk sound was crazy. Elk sounds probably the crazy. It's the best. But I'm used to it. But the roar when you hear a stag is like, sounds like a lion. I put one on my Instagram story, Jamie. See if you can find it. This dude just staring at the camera roaring.

43:23I bet or I hear rather Argentine is a great place to go. Yeah. I hear there a lot of them down on our. We, um, it's interesting because Tennessee is very, very strict on their whitetail. Here he is. Listen to this guy.

43:54Imagine if you were some dude and it's like a thousand years ago. You don't know what the fuck that is. So my 14 year old has been going to Colorado with me since he was five or six. And when they're that little, obviously they can't bow hunt, but we would get an elk down. And I'd let the boys hike up with me and impact the elk out. And one day we had another hunter with us going to get an elk. And my two little ones were following me. And I said, well, we had to elk bugle. I said, Hey, boys, stay right here. And they're, they're six, six and eight. And we went up the hill and I could keep, well, Tate right before I walked off.

44:41He goes, Dad, are they going to kill us if we sit here? Because I was elk bugle. I mean, you can feel their bugles in the woods. And I said, no, son. So we went up and tried to call this elk in. And then some elk did actually cross in front of them. And they're six and eight just sitting there. These big, this big herd of elk come by and we come back. And I was watching, I could see them sitting down there on this, this tall log that I put them on. But I got back and they're like, those elk were all, I mean, you know, having your boys, I mean, that's, that's what I live for and to keep the, you know, and I just wish we could create a narrative where getting your children doing that will, will, I mean, I don't know.

45:25Well, hunting has a very difficult entry. It's very difficult. If you're a person who's like listening to this, like, I've never hunted before, but I'd like to learn how to do it. Good luck. It's very hard. You're right. Very, very hard. It's very hard to find someone who's going to teach you who has the patience to show you what to do. If you've never shot a rifle before, it's very hard to understand like, what is the difference between a 300 wind mag and a 70 millimeter? What is it? That's the, that is the tricky part really with all outdoors. If you could, if you could bridge the gap between all parts of urban life and allow urban life to, to find a place to go.

46:06But the, when we went through a phase in outdoors where landowners were like, if you hunt my land and you twist your ankle and break your leg, you're going to sue me. So no, you're not allowed to come hunt my land. So all the deer get overpopulated to eat all my crops. And then, so I think now states, I think Tennessee has put a law into where some of those getting sued. Well, what I'm saying is that feeds people's inability to go find somewhere to hunt to them. So many people don't have a 50 acre farm. They can't afford it, but they want to go hunt. And then I just hope the hunting community and even the whole outdoor community can make it more accessible and landowners.

46:52I mean, I had this little lady that, that, um, I wanted a turkey hunt. She had 60 acres that bordered like a 300 acre track of mine. And I was like, ma 'am, when, when I'm out hunting and some of my turkeys or our turkeys may cross on to your property, do you mind if I go in her house as a mile away from, or it's 50 acres, it's probably 400 yards. She thought my shotgun was going to shoot through her house and kill her. And I had to spend 45 minutes. And she grew up in Tennessee in the country. And she doesn't understand that a shotgun is not, you know. And so, man, the education of it all, just the bridge and the knowledge of it gradually gets worse and worse.

47:39Right. But the need for it gets greater and greater. And I tell my children all the time, I'm like, boys, there is no drug in the world. And I'm not a, you know, I, I'm pretty straight guy. I never done, done much of that. But I said, I got a lot of crazy buddies that have. And when a big elk's walking in or a big white teller, you hook a big fish there that the adrenaline from that, no drug will replace it. Nothing's like it. I've done some wild shit all the time. I've seen the documentation of the wild stuff. I've done some wild shit. I'm going to send you a video, Jamie, of something that happened last week.

48:18So this, this is the best example that this is the best example that we had this elk. And he was out at about 50 yards. We'd snuck in on him. He was over the ridge at 50 yards. We can see the tips of his antlers. Moving around, I had my sights set at 50 yards. And as my friend was calling him, my friend was out of tree. There was about 20 yards for me. He came right into our lap. So it's one of those things. I had a range of 50 and then I see him coming in. He's coming in. I down. I get, I've range been getting 40, a down man. I'm like, Oh, she's coming into our lap. He just kept coming in. Watch this video.

48:54It's just, do you know how I'm in? God damn. Modern technology. It didn't make it through. Oh, it's still going. Hold on. Pressing it to send it through. I message it. Oh, is that what it is? Okay, let me set it one through. Did he go through? Okay. Bus out those scars. You want a little heavier or a mild? Whenever you have, here goes check this out. Listen to this. Listen to this when he comes over the hill and gets angry.

49:27Like when I heard that. Oh, here he comes. So right now he's about 50 yards. What's your heart doing right now? Right now I'm pretty calm because he's a 50 yards. Right. But now I'm realizing he's not going to stop. So I range him again. Now he's at 40. He pauses for a second. He's staring at me. I have to stop. Oh, yes. So you're out to the right. I'm off to the right and I'm pressed up against the tree. Full camo hiding in plain sight. So now he's moving out. So now I'm like, oh shit, I'm moving my sight to 20. So now I move my sight to 20. And I'm trying to figure out a time to draw. So right here I draw that's way turns.

50:04Oh, he needs to see some movement. That's another one. Do you want? Perfect. That was it. Boom. It's like that. And there's so much nerves and so much like anxiety and you range them and he's coming in and it's like, and you think he's going to be at 50, but also he's at 20. And then it's like, don't punch the shot. Like, relax, execute a perfect shot. Well, here's the beauty of all that in the outdoors. You know, when you hear these are mild, they're good though. Man, when you, when you, when you kind of conquer one level of fishing or hunting, then there's another one you can go learn the space in.

50:49You know what I'm saying? You can go. And what I say is like, I just, I mean, from the elk hunter that I was the elk hunter that I was 10 years ago, like took so much, took so much work to, to even get from a 10 % knowledgeable elk hunter to a 60%. Now, like I can watch that elk react to everything and know what that elks, how that elks react in because I've done it for 11, 12 years now. And I've got, I've taken my boys. Well, so when you get tired of white tail hunting and white tail hunting gets rudimentary, then go try to dig in and take it to the next level to challenge yourself. That's what's so fun about.

51:40Like when I got, I was always a bass fisherman, always a bass fisherman, never fly fisherman. Well, then I got into fly fisherman. And that became the new seven year challenge that I you own flies. I can now, the little, I can tie big streamers. Right. But like the little bitty. And you gotta get like goggles on. Oh, yeah. It's a real art form. Totally the one of the most rewarding things you can do. Sure. You make it own, make your own fly and trick a big -ass fish. A big fish with it. Yeah. My only problem with fly fishing is a lot of his catching release. And I'm like, it's fun. I know it's fun, but you're basically just fucking with fish.

52:27You're just fucking with them. Like, I could have killed you, bitch. You know, well, I get it. I get it. The handling of the trout. Like when I was, you know, I grew up bass fishing and we're like, and the bass flies out of the water. We grab it and you know, it's kids. We're like, oh, you know, you catch a trout and it's like a creature. It's like a team in the delivery room comes in to hold the brand new baby or what? Hey, they treat newborns. They're slapping newborns around and getting their lungs going before you, you know, you miss handling a trout. But you know, the whole mistake of trout and all of this stuff is just, man, it's outlets for all of us.

53:12You know, I mean, I remember my, I moved to Nashville. Man, my dad, he kept me fishing and hunting and he wound up being a pretty dang successful business guy. And he, oh, he told me he goes, do when you move to Nashville, don't forget to take time to go do that stuff. And you know, for about two or three years, man, I didn't. I was focusing on my career. But now as I roll out, man, you know, as I'm kind of established, you know, man, it's been the highlight. And the fact that three boys landed in my life, like, you know, my wife's like, you're, it's not even fair that you have, because I can always use one of them.

53:57I was like, well, baby, bow, you know, he's really been stressed. It's cool. And he wants to hunt this evening. She's like, I know your game. I know your game. But, uh, well, we're so lucky in this country, too, there's so much places that are public land. That's another thing that Europe doesn't have. I mean, that's what Robin Hood was all about. People think Robin Hood was, uh, steel from the rich and give to the poor. No, it was about hunting lands and hunting rights. People were starving. And the king had all the land. And there was all these deer and Robin Hood would go out and whack deer.

54:27Like, that was the story about Robin Hood. It really wasn't about stealing money. It was really about hunting rights. Right. They don't have that. I didn't know that. I don't know that. That's why it's so fucked over there. That's why. That's why you know, you hope, um, the whole education of hunting and landowners and conservation of the animals and all the land ties into where, you know, landowners need to have a better understanding of, man, give this old boy a break, give this guy that just knocked on your door and ask permission, the good old fashioned way, man, give him a break and let him take his son or go, yeah, go hunt, you know, and don't, you know, don't hoard your 15 ,000 acres to your, right, you know, but hopefully he's a good guy.

55:14That's the problem also is that assholes ask for permission and then do something stupid. You know, dude, I had a guy shoot a stag. One of them, first year I put my stag in and shot him right off the road, left him, man, you talk about pissed, right off the road, just shot him and left him, shot him and left him. Yeah, see, there's people like that out there, and it's so fucked up. It's about apples, you know, they're out there. How can you do that to a stag, too? God, that's so awful. Yeah. And the meat is so sensational to know that meat is going to go to waste. That's so crazy. Man, I don't know, you know, I guess enough whiskey and an old back road in a rifle, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, the education, the childhood, all the above.

55:57Well, but, um, yeah, all the above. But yeah, I mean, I look at, um, I've got a, tell my nephew, he's lived with me since he was 12 and then my, so tills 22 now and bow is a, bow 16 and Tate is 14 until was 15 when he killed his first elk. The rule has been if you can pull 55 pounds, you're, you're, you're ready to hunt. And so bow is a lot bigger than Tate. When he was 13 and 14, so bow, my 13 year old killed a full grown elk at 13. Whoa, the bow with a bow. Whoa, totally the frigging most badass thing I've ever seen. And then just to be that young and be able to execute the shot, dude, he did it and he earned it.

56:49And like I said, I've been hiking him up those heels. That's what another, like the, the hunting and the, the killing is that man, when you pack out a day, um, yeah, 800 pound animal, the first time I pack my elk out, dude, when I got to the Polaris, I mean, I was like, I was sobbing like from exertion, exertion, like delusional because we took a wrong turn. We hit a big askin' blowdown and I had to tote the head and the cape out and I had to walk over blown down askins with that cape. And once we got 500 yards into the blowdown, and man, we got that bug and, you know, all, and all the elk hunting guides, they're the toughest, they're the toughest days.

57:37Oh yeah, they're doing that for a long, they're grizzled. They're the toughest guys. I tell people, man, if I get called to a serious, uh, I get called in in a serious war, I'm calling my elk guides. That's, that's my first, that's my first call. So, but it's, you know, and I didn't grow up ever thinking I'd have the opportunity or the, or the, you know, the, the ability to go hunt elk, but once you start doing it and, and, and, but, you know, man, this, this week I killed Thursday. I killed my biggest white teller ever did and then I was so, I'm so like overwhelmed by killing it. I haven't even like, I don't even know if I've enjoyed it yet because it was, it kind of happened fast, but, um, it's just so fun.

58:24Yeah, I think sure. We, uh, it was big. So listen, now, and so I didn't post it because it's obviously in my high fence, and you know, the, you know, but man, this deer was born in the fence. In Tennessee, you can't bring any genetics in. You can't do anything. Whatever hurts you have when you, wild hurt, whatever wild Tennessee deer you have, you have to grow them. And man, this deer, Joe, when he was two years old, we were like, what in the fuck? What a UFO ship dropped this off in here? He started with huge mass, different looking genetics, and we watched him for, uh, we grew him for, we feel like he's five and a half.

59:10And, uh, whoa, dude, we are, we are over the moon about this tag. I know. That's a huge deer. How big is your property? It's, uh, I guess all together is probably 11, probably 1200 acres. And so that is much more space than a deer would ever travel in its natural life anyway. I'll, I'll put it to you this way. We put about 18 reds tag in there. There up, we don't know how many there are. That deer might have get fucked by his tag. I think he might, yeah, he might have, he might have crossed, yeah, hybrid. Yeah. Dude, we will ride around. We, we have too many stag and we'll try to thin them out, Joe, we can't find them.

59:55Like, literally it like we'll spend a day. I'm like, hey, grab the rifle. We're going to pull up here, walk this bottom. Can't find them. There's 60 of them in there. We hunted them for four days this weekend. We killed, we killed two. So, so 1200 is, I mean, um, it's much larger than a deer would have. But it's natural. Yeah. And I, you know, I, listen, I mean, we, there, there are a million ways you can criticize me for having the high fence. But, you know, I have low fences that we, we bounced back and forth on the low fences because that's fun as hell too, to not know what's walking in. But the main thing is, is I want my boys to have their ability to manage deer and grow them.

1:00:43And I grew up, I love South Texas. Big, big, I love South Texas deer hunt. Like. But I learned, I leased, I leased the South Texas place down here. And then I learned having, you know, young children in my schedule, man to go on a South Texas ranch, commit that much to a South Texas ranch and get five days there, what my thing. So my, my high fence in Tennessee is kind of like my little ode or my little homage to, to my love for South Texas white tails. So you can keep it close. Keep it close is 55 minutes from the house. Oh, that's nice. And it's a, it's a retreat. I get down there, you know, Starlink has ruined us because now we have internet.

1:01:27Yeah. But before that, man, you, we'd pull in the, pull in the holler down there and you'd have to drive up to the hill to make a phone call, but oh, oh, Elon saved us on that. Yeah, the new Starlink's wild. It's the size of a, like a notebook. Well, what was fun is the first time, the first time we saw the satellites come over, we were at elk camp. You know, my nephew, Tio, he's 21 and we're all liquored up. And my nephew, he goes, guys, I know we've been drinking all day, but what in the hail is coming toward us right now. And we were like, and then we had one guy in the group was like, God damn, that's Elon Musk.

1:02:09And we watched it go over and we were like, wow, what a, what a, it's amazing. We, we used one in Utah for the first time this year. So easy to set up, set it up, like five minutes. And then we're online YouTube. I mean, my wife, when I went to elk camp, my wife was like, all right, I'll, I'll, here, I'll see you, I'll talk to you in six days. First day, elk camp, set the Starlink out, FaceTime. Hey, baby, how are you? It's crazy. Yeah. My buddy was deer hunting recently in South Texas. And he said, on three different occasions in the week, their deer got bumped by illegals. He said, it was crazy.

1:02:50He said, illegal aliens just moving through the ranch. He said they, they have, you know, swarm of them every day. I hunt South Texas every year. And the ranch we went to last year. At any given moment, you can drive and pick up 50 backpacks. They just, that ranch looks like, when I, and I hadn't been, this, this ranch was closer to the border than I've ever been. And there are piles of backpacks and tarps, you know, they'll take tarps and put the tarp out. And they're, well, they'll wait in the day. And then they get, you know, they get picked up at night, typically, but when they get picked up, they chunk their backpack.

1:03:36And dude, dude, like that, that the ranch, I was at that. They have to have a full -time team of people just going around picking up backpacks and keeping trash off the ranch. My buddy who is a ranch in South Texas found a dead guy, found a guy ran out of water, just died on his ranch. It's heartbreaking because dude, if anybody dude, I can't imagine having to walk through that brush to get to freedom. Right. Because when I get back, not knowing where you're going. Not knowing where you're going. And probably you have kids. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, when I leave South Texas, I'm pulling cactuses out of my ass for a month.

1:04:12Yeah. Especially if you do, you know, you go ride, you go rattle, form and stuff. So man, it's forget about rattlesnakes. Forget about everything else. It's down there. And way in water, yeah, when you think about man, you get your water rations. Yeah. You, you miss that? Yeah. You could zig when you should have zagged and you're not going to run into water, especially down there. And it was in the summer. So, you know, 105 degrees outside. This poor dude just died. And they found them. Well, every ranch, every ranch, I've went to the ranch owner, you know, they're encountering two, two deaths a year, 15 to 20.

1:04:50Most of the time, they come up to the main headquarters, needing water. And when they get to you, or that's been my experience with talking to ranch managers down there, they're very, you know, they're not, I don't think they're there to create any problems. They just like, hey, you know, we need some water and the vast majority of them are just trying to get a better life, get a better life. And yeah, and we would be doing it too. Could you imagine if you live in a third world country and you had kids, and you realize you can get to America and you get a good job, and you got to figure out how to do it.

1:05:22Yeah, I would do it. We'd all do it. We would all do it. It's just the craziness of not knowing where you're going in South Texas, which is so vast. I mean, I think it's one of those things where people talk about it. It's almost like talking about space, you know, like, oh, the galaxy is 200 million stars or 200 billion stars. It doesn't make sense because it's like, it's too big for you to understand. If you had a walk through South Texas, it's South Texas. Well, Texas itself is bigger than like multiple countries in Europe. Yeah. Well, I think, you know, and even imagine before like the all -booms and all -regions and stuff like now they have a little bit of visual lights to walk to.

1:06:02Right. Right. I mean, man, I couldn't imagine. Yeah. Just striking out. Just taking a chance and hoping hoping or maybe you've gone with someone who went through it before or they have a vague memory of what's the best way to get to a creek.

1:06:21I don't know. I mean, I, you know, we've been there and, you know, the guys, they open box blinds, you know, they're hunting towers and there's a family sleeping in the box blind. Man, you just got to, you got to feel so sorry for them. I mean, how bad. Look, I mean, I thought, I mean, dude, I remember when I was 15, 16 years old processing Cubans where it's so bad that you're going to fucking piece together a raft and you're going to, you're going to give it a, you're going to give it a go for Miami. Right. I don't remember being 16 going, how bad must that be? How bad must that be? Pretty fucking bad.

1:07:00Pretty fucking bad. Pretty fucking bad. Their, their case is a little different because they're running from a communist dictatorship and they're like, we got, that's why the most Republican mother fuckers in this country, Cubans. Cubans go hard. They're like, we've seen, we've seen what all this socialist horseshit comes down to and it comes down to government control over every aspect of your life and they, they enforce it with violence. They enforce it with guns. It's not as simple as everybody just gives up whatever they have and now everybody has an equal amount. That's all nonsense. That's the, that's the hook.

1:07:35But the reality is the government controls everything and you are fucked and they always live in big ass houses and they eat great food and everybody else is everywhere. It's from from Africa to Cuba to the whole African. Yeah. That whole, have you ever hunted an African? I haven't but I know I will. I will, I can go on this show and say, man, I'm not like a, I'm not one of those guys that's like thinking about an elephant or lions and all that. I just, I love to bow hunt and I love, I'd like planes animals, you know, your, your kudos and all that stuff, man, I, you know, to build a, when my boys get a little older and we can do a proper two month, currently sports and my children have ruined my hunting life or my, well, because my, my boys are going to play all the sports.

1:08:23But when, when we can get a, I'd love to do them a gap year and let's go do a, a, a true safari. Yeah. And, and not when I say safari, that doesn't mean I want to go like hunt 60 days. I want to do like your, I want to see the, all of the serengetes and all of the animals and taking the animals for a month and have like the, the wives and the girls and the girlfriends and we sit out there and do the safaris. But then I want to carve out two or three days where all the boys go, you know, go get the true planes game. Yeah. And I would look, it's, man, I tell you, it's a pretty cool story of my, um, my pilot, my lead pilot is South African.

1:09:02And during COVID, man, he couldn't, his mother was dying and he couldn't get down there to tell his mother by. And at this point, I just, I just kind of got to know AJ and man, I've always heard that South Africans are pretty bad ass dudes. And at the time, I was learning that AJ is a pretty bad ass dude. I didn't know all together. Know it. But, well, he caught, he, he got with me and he goes, Luke, man, uh, it's still, I cannot get into South Africa. It may have been his mother or his wife's mother, but I called some local guys, some local Congress guys in Tennessee and we, they granted him permission to, um, get down there and they got to tell, uh, either his wife's mother by, well, he comes back and he's like, Luke, I now owe you a Cape Buffalo.

1:09:57And I was like, what? He goes, my family has a big ranch. We're over on a Cape Buffalo and you now have one of my Cape Buffalo. So dude, he is going to fly me down there and I'm like, and that's just kind of way he's, he's, he's, he's wired, but you know, he's going to help us with some safaris stuff. Don't they call them the black death? Yeah, now they are bad. Yeah, you, you don't just go running up to them. Yeah. Like with, with your, not your shit together. That's a big animal. It's like a 1 ,800 pound animal, right? Maybe bigger and like all muscle. So Cam and Adam Greentree, they went up to Australia, you know, Australia has like an infestation of Asian Buffalo.

1:10:44They have, I forget which type of Buffalo it is, but, um, invasive. So someone introduced it like all the animals in Australia. A lot of the mammals were introduced and they have no natural predators. So they have these Buffalo up there everywhere. Cam said he shot one and he, they, you know, they went up there with no food and they went up there to live off the land. They're drinking out of fucking crocodile lakes, like literally bathing in that shit, filtering water, filtering water, eating whatever fish they caught. It's Cam's new version of pushing himself. Now he's gonna, now he's gonna, I think it was Adam's idea.

1:11:18Oh my god, he's a psycho too. So they're both of them are perfect together. So he said he had one piece of Buffalo in his mouth for a half an hour, just chewing on it. He said that's how tough they are.

1:11:32He said it it's the true form of like, yeah, no, uh, that's even a whole nother level of true organics when it takes you, uh, oh yeah, you know, when your jerky's jerky right out of the right out of the, you know, right in the field, but yeah, well, there's no dry aged buffalo out there. No, that's a fucking, I was a taste of it. Um, I mean, because most plains animals in Africa, uh, historically, they say are far beyond our plains animals as far as the meat like your kudos and your, I mean, you're, I'm drawing a blank on all the plains games. And like I said, this is stuff that I'm like totally elementary in because I don't, I just don't know much about that old African thing.

1:12:16It seems like the things that the big cats want to eat are all delicious. Right. Yeah. Like, uh, I shouldn't be a guy and they'll go and tigers eat them. Right. Did you ever eat the meal? Yes. Delicious. And the meat is like a even more vivid, a more vivid red, uh, color to it than even our, you know, our ilk and stuff. Well, it's all delicious. My favorite is still elk, but another one is Axis deer. They get hunted by tigers and there's some of the best tasting animals alive. Axis deer are delicious. I think, I think cats are smart. Just like bears are smart too. Sam is delicious. That's it there and pick them off.

1:12:57They know what they're doing. Well, have you done Africa? Are you, are you gonna do it? I would like to. I'd like to go over to Africa. So you're, you, you really got it. The cam was he kind of your catalyst. Oh, yeah. And god, I mean, you put, it's like you had, it's like you had Michael Jordan teach me. Yeah, Michael Jordan, teach you how to shoot free throws. Yeah. It's so fun. But you know, even with, I tell you, man, I dove hard into duck hunting and you talk about, you talk about, I mean, learning to blow a duck call. And when you think you know how to blow a duck call and then you get next to somebody that blows a duck call and you blow yours and the room starts laughing at you like, like ridicule, like, take your duck call off and put it in your bedroom and leave it when we go hunting.

1:13:46And I'm like, dude, I've been working on this fucking thing for four years and they're like, and it's so funny, but it's like elk bugles. Yeah, someone who sucks at bugling. Like, you hear me like, what the fuck is that? I mean, it's like you walking in with a, with a two two yeah. I love duck hunting too. I've never done it, but I love the idea because you're sneaking you're hiding. You got fake ducks. You get the whole deal. So listen, I'm gonna have ducks and even have like flopping. Oh, dude, we got to listen, man, let me tell you something, dude, I got given a chocolate lab about eight years ago.

1:14:25And here comes this wormy ass chocolate lab into my home, you know, scrawny and since then, oh my god, that damn animal has thrust me into duck hunting just so I could take him duck hunting. And man, it is. That sounds like the same excuse you use with the kid. Right, my kid. Yeah, I have to go for the dog. Yeah, for the dog. You need some duck hunting. But man, in my life is this dog, man, this dog can open every drawer in our house. He can open three delays with his, he can smack three delays open and eat him. He can, he can, he is, he's, he's, he's pushed a porcelain pound cake, a pound cake on a porcelain island off onto the floor, ate the pound cake and the porcelain dish.

1:15:16And like X -ray, hundreds of shards of porcelain in a stomach. The vets like put that fucker out in the yard because there's, and if he makes it, if he lives, call me back, he lived. And now I have duck hunting properties and my boy, you know, so we're in the house blowing duck calls. My wife's like, you know, I mean, my wife's like five, the four boys in the house, all of them blowing duck calls. She's like, man, one day, yeah. So do you have one of them setups where you're like hiding in one of those shafts that's underground that we have, we have elevated blinds that are brushed in and some brush.

1:15:54And then we have pit blinds that are, you know, when you get down in a pit blind, you're right along the water level. And then, you know, we have, you know, there's experiences where you wait in the woods and they, they come down in the woods and, and man, it's just and, and it's, you're thinking about the thing that really makes duck hunting kind of like when you're in a blind with your, with your, let's just say you got your buddies from way back and there's five of you and you're sitting there smoking cigars. And, you know, you're, you're, you're in the blind together and you're, it's very social to drink and coffee.

1:16:31It's, you know, 15 degrees coffee cigar, you know, and everybody's like, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up. You work the ducks. They light in front of you. Kill them. They'll get some, brings the duck back. You look at the duck and you're just like, just have a big old token your cigar and you're like, yeah, this is pretty good shit right here. You're good at cooking them? Yeah, man, you know, the thing about it when you do, you know, your grain ducks, your ducks at feed on your rice and your, and your, your corn, you know, you eat like a diver duck that eats essentially menos. Yeah, you don't, you don't, you don't want to eat that.

1:17:09But, uh, and geese geese, sir, you, you find somebody that can cook a goose. You know the story about how to cook a goose? No. Well, you get a big pot and you put your, you put a, you put a bunch of water and then you put a concrete center block in there and you bowl the goose and you pull the goose out and eat the center block. But now some people can make, uh, I thought goose is like a, a speckless goose, a speckled goose, speck specklebellies are good. But I like a mallard and a wood duck. Oh, man, a wood duck with jalapeno and cheese and bacon wrap, which nothing, nothing's bad when you do that.

1:17:48But my friend Jesse Grifford, he runs this restaurant out here called Died Doe, and it, it's fantastic. And he serves a lot of wild game. And Jesse came on this hunt with us with Steve Ronaldo down in South Texas. And Jesse cooked some diver duck. And it was fantastic. Whoever the hell Jesse is, he's a wizard is a, well, that's great. He's a real chef. Well, that, so, so Ryan C. Chris, he's like, hey, man, Ryan C. Chris, the radio guy, yeah, the American Idol. And uh, C. Chris goes, hey, I've got a, you know, light. Yeah. He goes, dude, I booked this at EMP 11 Madison park. Number one at the time, number one restaurant in downtown, you know, Adam was, uh, uh, Ryan was taking me and Katie and Lionel to dinner.

1:18:39And I've never been to a, certainly the number one restaurant in the world. Well, they take us to the kitchen. Indeed, they have ducks, walls, because all of your, your French cuisine, uh, the really the centerpiece is duck. That's like the duck fat, uh, the ducks are the, the real big part of Foggua French cuisine. Well, dude, I see these, uh, I see all these ducks. And I'm like, what are y 'all doing here? He guys, man, we're aging them. So they get these, now they're getting probably there. They're getting farm raised organically grown ducks and they age them with, with the gut sent them. Yeah, I've heard of that.

1:19:21For people do that with like, pheasants too. Yeah. The enzymes of the guts pull stuff out of the meat. Well, it has a flavor to it apparently. And dude, man, I eat sketches me out. Well, here's the tricky part because, dude, I don't even know if I enjoyed my meal because I, I picked the chef's brain because I wanted to figure out a way to take my mallards and all my ducks. I killed an agent properly. But what you do got to worry about is when you shoot them, you know, you're putting, you know, you're shooting, it's, the guts are going right through kind of in the meat a little bit. So that gets to shoot them.

1:20:01Yeah, right. That's different than that. I ain't got that good where I all headshot them yet. But uh, no, when, when these guys are aging them, what's the temperature in the room? I think it's, I think it's like of, you know, just above, they're not freezing them. I think it's however you would dry age a cow. So like 40 degrees, probably 40 degrees and 13, 15 days with the guts in them. And then 15 days with the guts in them. I've heard that people hang their pheasants until their their heads fall off. And that's when they, that's when they cut them up. Who figured that out? Like who was the bold bastard?

1:20:38It's the guy that ate the first oyster, right? You know, drink out of the puddle. Right. Yeah. And you know, it is fascinating and fesant. And when you look at fesant and quail and chuckers and, you know, hungarian partridge now, you're talking about the, you're talking about the end all of, of wild game. In my opinion, the top of the, that's what you like the most. Well, I think when you look at the fesants, you know, they're, you know, they call them prairie chickens and they're beautiful. The meat's a little wider and less gamey or so. Have you had sandhill crane? Yes, ribeye the sky. I have it, but it's crazy to look at it.

1:21:13It does look like steak. It's a red meat, a deep red meat, and it's a bird. And you know, they're, they're wild little creatures too, man. You know, when you, when you take your lab, sandhill crane hunting, you got to, you got to fit them with goggles because of the poker eye. Yeah. Whoa. And then we, I, I, I just got in a golf course property down in Florida. And we sold our beach house and then we're kind of migrating to this place. And I fly down to the tour of the property and I'm like, dude, what are, what are you, what are you going to do with all these sandhill cranes? And they're like, what do you mean?

1:21:52It's like a golf course guy. And I said, dude, that's the ribeye of the sky, bro. He's like, he looked it up and I don't, you can't shoot sandhill cranes in Florida. What? They are somebody called the governor everywhere. Really? Everywhere on this property. You can't shoot sandhill cranes in Florida, but you can shoot alligators? Unless they're lying to me because they're scared, I'm going to go like, I'm going to like, you know, have a psychotic episode and go running out through the golf course with a, with a gun. Maybe it's just the area where you're at. You could, they may be protected in certain counties, but, but, you know, even in Tennessee, Florida, and protected under the federal protected under federal, federal, migratory bird treaty act.

1:22:34Look at that. Shit. Wow. State rule, blah, blah, blah. Intentional feeding of sandhill cranes is prohibited. So you can't hum. Well, the protected. Well, in Tennessee, we have, in Tennessee, there's a couple guys that got them. And I think it's a draw tag. You can draw, you can put in to draw a sandhill crane tag. And then, man, they make a, they make a very distinct something like that. And dude, you can hear them. And I'll hear them coming over my farm. And God, if that's the wrong noise I just made, I'm going to get a, sounds good. I'm going, you got it. I love this guy. I need me on a, that's them.

1:23:25Now, that's all of them. Yeah, that's, you hear that? Yeah. What a fucking cool animal. They sound like something from Avatar. See those beaks? Yeah. Those are a Labrador Blime, Labrador Retriever Blinders right there. What, how do you fasten the goggles on a dog? Man, oh God, here he goes.

1:23:50Oh my gosh, this is like the crew. You'll find it. Sandhill crane goggles for labs. That's going to be great. Does it, how does it secure on? I'm thinking about a dog space. I guess it's, I guess you've seen those dogs in those side cars on the motorcycles, on the motorcycles. Probably, probably that, that rig. But, I mean, that's the same. Yeah, that's, that's like a, that's an Aspen. That's two dogs being silly. Yeah. Yeah. But the, yes, so in Tennessee, you, you can hire a guy and he'll take you and they'll kind of get him coming in an area and I think you get, oh, there you go. Oh, wow. Oh, that's crazy.

1:24:32Now, those look like, I think those are snow geese. Snow geese are probably the same. Look at their goggles all scratched up too. Grane hood. Now those are, yeah, those are sand hills. Wow, that's crazy. Dogs need to have their eyes protected. Yeah, so when you, when you get, yeah, well, you've got your golden, but man, if you get your L .I. Evans, oh man, be aware of that because you will get hooked, you'll start. Oh, I'm sure I would be. Also, I love duck. Ducks delicious. Oh, on the grill, marinated in a marinade it properly for a day or two, playing on it. That's what Jesse does. That's the difference.

1:25:08That's what I know. That's what the diver duck. I'm telling you, this diver duck was sensational. Well, but when that, and that's the, that's what you got to watch in all wild game is man, playing it. Preparation. Get it marinated and man, you just can't beat it. Yeah, you got to know what you're cooking, how to cook it, especially if you're cooking something that has low body fat, you got to make sure you cook it nice and slow. Right. You know, that's one of the great things about things like a Traeger, and you can just set it for 265. Definitely. Leave it. The new one's fantastic too. It just, everything comes out so smoky and delicious.

1:25:44If you know what I mean, man, I had fourth of July. He was, I think he was drunk and hated us on fourth of July because he stayed up smoking the Boston Bud every night. You know, I remember my dad, man, he had that old char brawl out there and he'd get up with his vinegar and all this shit and he would wake up all night night before the fourth and smoke them butts, man. And now you just walk out, put that thing on 220 at about 8 p .m. Wake up at 8 a .m. And the app tells you if you're low on pellets. I know. It's like, what do we do in here? It's great. It's so much easier. There's something that men are attracted to, like, cooking over wood, though.

1:26:22Like an actual fire. Well, and we're in the heart of it in Texas, you know, right here. I mean, these guys take a damn, you know, they propane tanks. They glue four propane tanks together and have a smoke stack and the guy that, uh, what's our guy that does our charity event? Oh my God, I can't believe him. I'll come up with him. But Mark, text me, uh, meat church. Have you met the meat church dude? I met that dude. Yeah, he comes and he's got some awesome rubs. He's got all that, but then what's funny is yeah, he pulled up to our charity event with his big smoker and man, I'm like, this is like Elon Musk style engineering on this thing.

1:27:03It's pretty, you know, and man, you know, they get out there and yeah, they'll look at me and you doing triggers and we're, that's about like us. That's our version of having a 22 own. It is funny because people want to do it all themselves. The offset smokers. Like, if you ever got a Terry Blacks here, see the lines of the offset smokers. Terry Blacks is the number one barbecue place in the country, probably in the world. They cook more volume of barbecue than anywhere else on the country. And they have just line after line of these giant propane tank smokers and they just brisks and frips and spares.

1:27:40See, when I, when I moved to Nashville being a South Georgia boy, I'd never even heard of brisk. Really? There was, we only knew pork barbecue. And it's just, so when I moved to Nashville and then like, there's some dude there with a Texas brisket restaurant in Nashville, I'm like, what are they talking about brisket? And this was 2001. I moved to Nashville. This is how insulated you could be in your own, you know, as we talk about the ways of the world changing. I mean, it's like, dude, I lived in a section in everybody. North Carolina, it's Georgia, Alabama. They didn't, brisket was like, I think brisket was originally a German thing.

1:28:22I think it was like with the sausages. Like, there was cuts of the meat. Well, the smoker thing came certainly from German immigrants that came to Texas. That's where the origin of the barbecue out here. And then the whole brisket was like cuts that nobody else wanted. Right. So they figured out a way to take these cuts that nobody else wanted and turn them into something delicious. They just had to do it over time. And now it's like a preferred cut. You know, if you go to Terry Blacks, the brisket sensational. And they're probably cooking, yeah, the preferred cuts of like which cut of the brisket would you like?

1:28:55Not the old flank meat down there. You know, probably, you can probably get the ribeye and all that. I think it's all just how long you cook it for. Yeah. How do you, how you do it with temperature and they they wrap it and then they unwrap it and they spray it like they have it down to a science. And then at the end, it's like the, the, the key is you want to be able to fold it over your finger and not have it break apart. Just get it to just where it folds over. So our deal was just always smoke a big pig. You know, smoke a pig. You know, you know, not, not the, not the ones big as this table, but you know, about, about that longer.

1:29:29Yeah. Yeah. And walk up there on the family reunion and all the women were grouched out because, you know, you're just pulling the big pig, you know, the big, you know, you can pull that meat off a pig. It's like that. So we're getting hungry, Jeff. I know. That's the good thing about wild pigs too. So they're always available to hunt. Like the one of the great things about Texas, it's, it's not good if you're on a ranch or if you have a farm, but if you're a person who wants to hunt, you can hunt wild pigs for 65 days a year and always have sausage. Our place and me and my best friend, we've got a, like a quill hunting place and down in the heart of South Georgia, tons of swamps.

1:30:08Did we were, uh, which you know all the math and I'm sure you've brought it up on, um, how many uh, Sal pigs or, you know, they'll kick off 30, 30 pigs a year and then we would have, we would have them roll through our front yard, $30 ,000 damage a night. Yeah. And the most, and for anybody out there listening, if you have this going on, we mounted, um, we mounted lights and all the trees around our whole lodge and you flip them lights on and we had one wild hog root up our yard since. They will not come around those lights. They don't, they, it's a great tactic. That's interesting. Yeah. And when somebody told him, you know, some good old boy told him and he was like, man, we'll try anything because you would walk out there and it looked like 300 landmines went off and the night before our, our yard looked like Augusta.

1:31:09Yeah, it's crazy, isn't it? I mean, they're, they're bad little dudes. They do a lot of damage. I mean, in Texas alone, it's millions and millions of dollars of damage across every year. They shoot about a helicopter here. You ever seen, you ever done any of that? Have you? It is.

1:31:29Man, it is. It's the most unfair type of hunting that's ever existed. Man, if, you know, I don't know, you know, my children, I took my boys and somewhere there's a, you know, I hope you don't hear it, but there's a Navy SEAL Marine recruiter because my sons are ready for warfare after doing that. I'm like, but you know, my, the guy that we took, you know, he's got a big beautiful high fence in me. You know, you get to fly around and man, you can, you know, he has to thin him out every year. Yeah, you have to. But it's so fun doing it out of a helicopter. You don't want to thin them all out because you just keep wanting to, you know, keep wanting to do it a little bit.

1:32:08Yeah. But it's, you hadn't done that yet? No. No. I'm still. I just mostly bow on them. Well, you know, the, our, our, our, our pick stuff in, in Georgia, man, it's fun because you can go on a deer hunt and shoot some deer with a bow and then we'll take a rifle and, and late in the evening, the hogs will come out and, and, you know, a lot of guys shoot them at night time too. Yeah. And then we, we have guys with the big, you know, with the big, you know, trap doors at trap them and stuff like that. So, I mean, they're, they are, they're probably the number one, you know, wildlife. I never will forget.

1:32:53I, you know, right when, like, maybe iPhones come out and you get your iPhone news updates and then I never even knew what the magazine like the New Yorker was or like the Guardian and all those things. Well, the New Yorker, I'm scrolling through and I see Farrell Pigs and it was this huge article done by a guy, maybe the editor of the New Yorker. I mean, he did a great job with that article and just went through and this was 15 years ago. I read that article about, you know, the Farrell hog problems and, you know, you would think I would, I don't know. I would think the New Yorker leans quite, leans quite left.

1:33:31But the fact that this guy wrote the article from a perspective of huge problem need to be, need to be dealt with. It was pretty, pretty bad as take on it. So, well, once people see the sheer numbers, they're so overwhelming that you go, wait a minute. How, how are you going to stop this? How are you going to stop it from multiplying continually over here? Well, you're not. You're not. There's places that you're not going to get to this too, man. Georgia and these, these swampy deals, you can't, you know, you can't, you can't helicopter them there. So that's when you get, you know, that's when you get these old boys with their, with their dogs and they run off in the runoff and that'll help.

1:34:12But even then, so here's another thing you think about this. So when I start my offense, the year that I, the year that I started it, um, our turkey population in Tennessee, which it's, it's been going through Hale. Um, and you'll hear this, the turkey population in Tennessee was one of the most amazing things I've ever seen. I mean, Eastern turkey hunting, one of the most beautiful things in the wildlife state of Tennessee has. And in my turkey population was like, is amazing and still is, but we hired a guy and he put 110 traps out, 110 and night one had a hundred, over a hundred varmants, coons, possums, armadillos and the traps, night one.

1:35:03So they're just killing all the turkeys? They eat the eggs. Yeah. You know, they're, uh, you know, a turkey lays 12 to 14 eggs. Now listen, I found this out this year. This is going to, uh, if I can get a couple nuggets that you hadn't learned yet, that's kind of the goal for the day. So and turkey does not lay their eggs all at the same time. Really? They lay their eggs one day at a time. They will, they lay it next to a water source. They go to the water source, hold the water in their mouth, trip the water on the eggs periodically. Using the water to hatch them at the same time, because a hen turkey, if she had to hatch, all the eggs hatch at the same time.

1:35:55But if she had to hatch them for 12 days, she couldn't ever keep them corralled properly. So she manipulates with water. And if I'm wrong, now this is a biologist that told me that now I heard this this year, totally blew my mind. So in the nest, and I've walked up on them, they got 12 or 13 of them sitting there beautifully. And whatever that hen does, she manages those eggs to hatch at the same time. And maybe, maybe, um, now like a tortoise, I guess, or a beach turtle or whatever, you know, I think they, they spit them all out that night. But a hen turkey does not. Well, so one armadilla rolls by that nest.

1:36:40That's a wrap. That's a wrap. She just lost them all. And, um, so there was a big study that went on in Tennessee about the decline of the turkey population. So what do they do about that? They, they, well, first of all, well, you know, well, trapping now is so rare, you know, trapping the art of trapping is gone down quite a bit in the arm of the, the, the, um, oh, and I'm not even bringing up coyotes in Tennessee. But, uh, so yeah, if you can, if they can loosen up, Tennessee can loosen up their trapping laws and make it more available. And, and you just got to thin out those, uh, you know, armadillas in Tennessee, you would have never, um, man, we woke up and we can ride around and shoot 30 a night.

1:37:30Really? Armadilla's 30 on a, on a, they carry like crazy man. I wouldn't recommend touching them. You know, they, they, you know, they say they do, but that, that's, that they believe them. I'd never heard of that, but I, you probably can find some. They definitely recommend. They definitely eat raccoons and definitely, I don't know about possums, but if you, if you're eating a awesome year, you're, your ass is hungry. So, you're very hungry. But, uh, raccoons, I mean, yeah, in Georgia, where we grew up, had, had several old timers, man, they get them a queen and it was always a kind of a party deal.

1:38:07You know, what is raccoon tastes like? I never had. I'm never. Well, we got old buddy down there. He's like, you know what, ballad eagle tastes like, owl. So I guess you could say, rackey, you know, I had a buddy in my telegame, warden that joke. It didn't go over well. So, but, uh, there's a lot of shit that people eat, that people would go, what? Yeah. I mean, when you're talking about, yeah, I, I, I saw somebody do what, do the pig deal with a full gator. Oh, I've seen that before. And I hadn't done that. I've had gator tail, but I had a giant smoker and put a gator in that whole thing. Yeah.

1:38:42They scan, you know, scan it and all that. Put an apple in its mouth. Yeah. You know, it's crazy in Georgia. There's a, there's a place rural. So all the chicken farms down there, huge chicken farms, all of them. Well, what do you do with the chicken carcasses? Well, I mean, there's a lot they used to grind them up and feed them about the chickens, but some of them get, well, they feed them to gator farms. Oh, wow. They put them in a, put them in a, um, a limb, a limb shredder. Oh, wow. Now you talk about the most foul smell on the planet. Go into a gator farm warehouse. Oh, Joe, buddy, just rot.

1:39:26Nothing can replicate. Maybe the Sourstroman challenge can rep, you know, the, the, the whole Sourstroman joke thing, but what's that? You've seen where the guys popped the lid on the, uh, the Swedish fish. No. Oh, Joe. Sourstroman. What is it? Oh, we did it in our, in our deer camp. It's like a aged, sweetest fish that's rotten in a can. It's aged for years, like a sardine. And so, yeah, the Sourstroman challenge, please guess, face it. Dude, we popped that thing. So people fish with them, they use it for bait, like look, people eat that. Oh, foul. And if you can stay in the room with it, have you tried it?

1:40:15Did no one, I, no, I was outside 15 yards from it, throwing up in the flower bed. All right, we got to order some Jamie. Order some. I'm glad I didn't get you, uh, might eat it on a fight companion. But um, well, Denver, so yet they're on the verge of passing a no fur law. So if Denver passes a no fur law, what are they going to do about cowboy hats that have beaver skin lining? And then if you're going to say no fur, how are you going to say no fur, but you're allowing leather? So skin is okay as long as you take the furry part off. Is the furry part what's offensive? You know, but if you know what you'd fucking the, the chaos that would ensue, if you outlawed leather, everybody's belt is illegal.

1:41:01Everybody's shoes are legal air Jordans are calling it illegal illegal. Yeah, they're trying to pass the law. They're trying to pass the law where they banned fur. Sorry. They've done it before. I mean, they've done it. Like I said, where does it? Joe, I'm at what it just keeps going. That's the problem. I'm an American. I never fucking ends when I'm at a man. I know it never. It's never going to end. They're going to keep pushing. What it'll get to you. Can't eat meat. It'll get to. It has to be lab -grown meat. It'll get to, it'll, it could get as crazy as you could ever imagine. There's animal rights people that would like to push it in that direction.

1:41:35And you would have never thought this would be possible. But you would have never thought that you would have biological males competing against females in high school sports. And that's everywhere. And if you complain against that, you're a bigot. You're seeing the craziest of crazy thinking. There's people that think the pedophiles are minor attracted persons. And they'll, they'll talk about this as university professors teaching classes. It's been recorded. People have seen it. It's not everywhere. But it's enough where you go. I see where this goes if it keeps going because none of this shit existed 20 years ago.

1:42:08You go back to 2004. There was none of this shit. Nothing. The trans gender person was a rare person with gender dysphoria. It was very rare. And there wasn't a lot of hatred towards those people. It wasn't a thing that people worried about. Now there is because everybody's like, what the fuck? Why is this in schools? Why are you having them? There was a recent pool tournament where it was a woman's pool tournament in the semifinals. It's two trans trans women competing against each other. Two men, two biological men that wear lipstick, competing against each other in a woman's tournament. It's fucking crazy.

1:42:41So I would have never thought that would be possible. So it can get 20 years from that. It's like meat. It can get to the point where meat. There's this demonization of meat. You keep here about it all the time. Meat is the number one source of carbon. It's fucking complete total horse shit. It's not even number two. It's not number three. It's not even fucking close. Cal Farts. Yeah. It's the dumbest shit ever. And by the way, all of that is factory farming. Regenerative farming is actually carbon neutral. If it doesn't, if they don't sequester carbon, it's actually good for carbon. There's a whole reason why there's a balanced ecosystem of cowzeating grass and the grass fermenting in their stomach and then creating manure that regenerates.

1:43:24Regenerates. It's carbon neutral. It's actually good for the environment and everything feeds off everything. There's a system that nature is evolved for millions of years. That's the normal way it's supposed to be done. And we're just living in a crazy time. Yeah. When you think of Denver and Colorado and the outdoors, man, you got to appreciate everybody's opinion of, you know, the growth, you know, I mean, it's a so, so old term, the granolaist. Yeah. But it ain't granola no more. I mean, it's, it's, it's, they're going a lot further than granola. Granola used to be normal until they did see the thing is those people were weird and rare and they were tolerated.

1:44:06But then they got online and saved there's only 10 of them in this town and five of them in that town. Well, now there's hundreds of thousands of them collectively in the country, all as a group. And then they think that they're activists. So they, they think that they're doing something good. So then they start saying things like no fur and Colorado passed this bill. You start saying no meat, no more meat, no one should have meat. Okay. All right. What are you going to do with these cows? What are you going to do? You're going to go around castrating all those bulls. What are you going to do?

1:44:34How are you going to let some of them breed? How are you going to make this distinction? Are you going to bring in wolves to handle them? What are you going to do? What the fuck are you going to do? What you want to do with all those people that work at the butcher shop? What are you going to do with all those people that work at the meat processing plant? What are you going to do with all those people that have been transporting meat back and forth? What do you do? All those jobs, all those families, all their income, all their businesses that they've had for a hundred fucking years? What are you going to do with that?

1:45:02These people have like the most minimal understanding of the systems They're trying to influence they don't know what the fuck they're doing by releasing wolves They think wolves are beautiful. Yay. See the governor is releasing the wolves. He's like He's so happy. Yeah, they're gonna be saying yay When they're when they're damn I don't know the whole the dogs get eaten dog everything Yeah, let me tell you something without that they brought in wolves that had a history of killing cattle The wolves they brought in the car than the grizzly focusing on the on humans and Man, we I live just south of Nashville.

1:45:41We got a hundred eighty acres. I've got neighborhoods all around us, man About every nine and email goes out little fluffy's gone coyotes We put six Cody traps out on my farm one night six for six. Wow and Let me tell you what else is a little vicious son of a bitch a Fucking otter. Oh, yeah, otters will fuck you up. Let me tell you buddy. Those things are I Mean Joe, I'm so like but I mean I wait like I said my my brain is bass fishing and all this stuff Man, we'll have otters come up into my bass pond and fuck those bass up. I'm talking about They're fucking gone the fish in three nights the fish are gone and the otters Eat one and play with the other ones that they kill wow and like you go by my lake Like I have a all -female bass lake at my house Which you're gonna this is a whole another fun deal.

1:46:56They will roll through there and eat my all females and Just throw them up on the bank. There's carcasses. There's so many Well, you get four otters in your pond on a 17 -acre lake. They'll eat 20 bass a night And you the problem is you don't know you've been got until it's you've been got Wow and so Joe a tit to grow a 10 pound bass is about three thousand dollars

1:47:31And think about I've been loving on these damn fish. I've been walking out there Make sure they're happy so we can all catch them and Then damn them damn otters wrote so they'll if you have a overflow a spillway on your farm And it runs through your farm and dumps into a major river body of water and that otter swims by that water dumping in that river He is up that river. He's up that spillway into your lake and he is he has got you Wow, and we'll put traps out there and Man, they just keep coming. Wow keep coming and I'm talking about otter pelts. I Mean like the prettiest thing you've ever seen so do you turn them into coats or anything?

1:48:16You I mean we've got enough where you know we can we've got them Skinned out in freezers and rolled up in our freezers and my farm guys. I mean, I think they're but you know the sad part Is there the market for that should be an amazing market? But I don't I think because everybody's scared to say they got a damn otter pelts. Yeah, you know But yeah for it's first got a bad name if it's got hair on it leather's fine None of it's fine, but leather's fine with people. No one has a problem with you wearing cowboy boots Nobody gets mad. Yeah, see leather. No, he gets mad at leather. All that is is fur with no no fucking hair on it It's the same thing.

1:48:57It's weird, but damn otters man them little rascals, you know they um I Got I'm building a lake at my place in Georgia. And it's right on the Flint River running wildlife management. I love it man It's it's so fun. It's so damn fun like it's it's four hours of my day and it also cleanses your mind, right? Totally it is it's totally and it is not for myself You can't my enjoyment is to watch The kid my front my buddies my children's friends come enjoy it to you know my my my sons will bring a buddy home from school And next thing you know Tate and his 13 -year -old buddy are shooting bows in the front yard all weekend and this kid who doesn't have a dad that hunts Or has the ability next thing you know we I got one kid my but my tates buddy James His eighth consecutive weekend at my house Just loving Live shooting bow and arrows show him how to shoot correctly got it all got him dialed in he shot his first doe this weekend Nice just so fun, and so so you know When you meet these guys that they don't let anybody else enjoy it.

1:50:16I don't like those guys either yeah, and you know I loved I love to enjoy it with people But you're the bass fishing things the blast but my my lake in in Georgia It's gonna be about 35 acres, and I think we'll do an all -female lake down there. Why all female so that way they can't breed Your females are your trophy bass right the big fat ones the big fat ones But don't they have to get pregnant to be really big and fat? You put them in and and If you don't they don't have to be pregnant Well, they just have to have the big eggs and when they lay them they just have to have a male not far from that's right Of course, so if you get a male in there then the male Then you have a natural Friving he'll eat the babies too though, right?

1:51:01They'll a male a bass will forage on themselves Yeah, and but male bat now. I have three lakes that are naturally their own ecosystem where we have to You know, I've got an 82 -acre bass lake that we have to catch 3 ,500 pounds of bass a year Just to keep them from not choking themselves out. Oh, yeah, it's 3 ,500 pounds So what do you do just call your friends? Dude, we have bass roundups and we get out there and we catch them and we'll load up coolers and take them into the little towns and give them You know have given to people and I mean it becomes a problem It's a weird thing with large mouth bass too because a lot of people don't eat them and yet they're delicious They're good.

1:51:46They're great. They're great. They're basically the same as blue gills well blue gills blue gills You know like all the blue gills at my lake are we feed them pellet food So they'll get big so the basil you don't say the basil get big and you don't want to go eat a blue gill That's been parked under a pellet. Yeah, but A little wild blue gill stream or a little natural creek where I grew up in Georgia like shell crackers and blue gill That eat like a cricket or a that are eaten Loss stuff you fill a one of them real small creek or river blue gills and eat them up Nothing better in the world. Yeah, and then bass is similar.

1:52:29Oh bass if you make it like you white meat Flaky white meat get you a three or four pound bass filet like a red snapper, but people that catch them so much They want you to release them. We we spend our whole life my dad would catch bass. We would filet him He'd put him in a pyrex dish saute him Bake him and then brawl him on top and we'd eat bat we'd eat large mouth bass You know you could either have salmon croquettes. It stink up the whole house You know where you knew your mama was cooking him or you can have fresh bass, you know So we grew up but into the weird animal or weird fish rather that a lot of people don't eat but it's good eat You know you wouldn't want you wouldn't want your you wouldn't want everybody fish fishing your big reservoirs like Texas Is the best big bass lake reservoir state right in the country?

1:53:22You wouldn't want everybody out there keeping them, you know you want to practice You want to practice catch your release on your big public reservoirs, right? But you know when you've got a private empowerment where you know You know you want you want to you want to keep your bass Because your bass you'll wake up. Let's just let's just say you've got a nice brand new bass like you built 10 acres You stock it you spend 50 grand to put your blue gale you All your fish in there. Well, you know, then you just don't ever catch them within in five years You've lost it. Yeah, you manage it Yeah, you're done your lakes done your Your your three pound bass didn't have enough Fish to get four pounds and then he missed a year of growing or she missed a year of growing and then you just put a 50 thousand dollar investment in your bass lake And then you're out you might as well drain it start over You know what I'd really like to do get a place in the north and have a lake with pike in it I think they might be my favorite thing to catch because they're so ruthless.

1:54:27That's such a ruthless fish Animal fucking dinosaur a killer. Those are dinosaurs First time I caught a pike. I'm like, why isn't this like the most exciting thing to catch They fight hard or a musky. Jesus. I've never caught one of those me either That's the fish. We got a we got a thousand casts. Yeah, so I'm not a I'm not that Now I'll wait and hunt it. You know, I'm not a um Like I don't have to have the biggest best animal my whole life like I don't roll you know some people they're like They get into numbers their size queens. Yeah, or score. I'm not that guy. I'm an experience. Let's have fun Let's see a lot of animals.

1:55:08Let's catch a lot of fish. Let's keep a lot of action. Yeah, let's keep the kids Engaged yeah, you know um Like when when my boys were you know when my boys were four and five I'd take them you don't want to take them out there on their first three bass fishing trips and you Burn them in the hot sun and they catch one fish right you want them Engaged engaged and get them get them going But uh, you know pike and all that that you know steelhead and that northwest steelhead and Catching one man. I don't that's just I hadn't done that. I can't do that. I got that's a release fish too, right? The whole those are those are the Yeah, those are high on the list of especially like a sea run steelheads.

1:55:52Mm -hmm, you know You have you have some that are kind of locked in you know Locked in the reservoir locked. Mm -hmm. She get those those big sea run steelheads And they they really hold them and they should hold them in however guard you shouldn't You need to leave those alone and let them you know let them come and go Yeah, but then why you catching them You know why you fucking with those fish Because that's it's a little bit of that. I get it. It's fun. I'm not opposed to it I get it, but if I catch fish I like to eat them That's the whole reason why I'm catching fish say that yeah, you know what It's why I like to catch while I would still say you're in the majority.

1:56:34Yeah, yeah, you're in as it should be I mean imagine if you just run around shooting deer with tranquilized darts like I got them Well weird little weird. Yeah, I've just approved that you did it Yeah, you know, and then they make bumper, you know, they make bumper tips on those you can don't Don't dare and ask and run them off And you know I mean, they're like why are you don't get a deer in the ass, you know, it's a little weird It's like they make those club heads so you can shoot squirrels and birds. Yeah Well, you know, man listen dude. I grew up, you know, my little town of Leesburg man I mean every year.

1:57:11I got a pellet gun for Christmas and I got a I got a full of Camo one Z or a cover all and dude I put my new pair of chippewa hunting boots. I put my new set of uh I put my new set of coveralls on with the camo pattern I'd hit the neighborhood walk around with a pellet gun shooting the neighbor squirrels And you know, we we'd eat them, you know, we'd eat them every now and then It's a little lady mable cocks. Well, she'd we'd skin them and she'd fry them with some wild rice and it tastes good If you cook a squirrel do it right man, it ain't done wrong with a squirrel Isn't that crazy that most people don't know that right squirrels are delicious squirrel hunting Very popular squirrel duckling squirrel ducklings.

1:57:58Yeah Instead of chicken chicken and dumplings squirrel dumplings You you know, you get a squirrel and clean it right and brown it for the night And cook it with dumplings and put some onions and celery and all that and you're you're off to the races People think of them. They have like fluffy tail privilege rat rats with tails because you see a rat rats Have those slimy tails and people like that's disgusting and they see that fluffy tail like oh so cute Not much different You know Well, the the the fact that you know The fact that yeah, I could run rampant with a Eight -year down years old through the neighborhood riding my Honda 50 motorcycle You know through people's backyard, you know chasing squirrels and everybody's like thank you that damn things been in my attic chewing up my my pink Panther insulation for That's rural life, right?

1:58:54Yeah, that's where all the people and well, that's people that understand what's going on Yeah, that's the difference That a neighborhood and Manhattan people like what the fuck is this guy doing we need these squirrels If you they cut you in central park with a pellet gun you go to jail First first round ticket first. Yeah, do not do not pass go do not collect It's breaking to a store and rob it nothing will happen to you. They'll let you ride out Yeah, yeah, but if you get caught in central park shooting squirrels and eating them you're gonna get in real trouble It's wild we live in a wild world.

1:59:26It's a very strange distorted version of what human beings have been experiencing for most of history No, I mean nothing is wrong with hunting a little bit Especially when 95 % of the world eats meat. It's a stupid argument Well, and I think you know, I think it's all trained to do I think the beauty is now the education of You know, I mean you look at you know, you look at the how great you know carnivore diets are being you know I've never done like a big old carnivore have you ever done a big carnivore? Oh, yeah, yeah change your life Oh, yeah, that's mostly how I eat great. I eat fruit and meat great 99 % I fuck around like my daughter likes to cook cookies I had a big -ass cookie the other day It was awesome.

2:00:12I I mean, I'm not ridiculous. Yeah, all you do the things. I'm not religious about it But most of my diet like 90 % is just meat and occasionally fruit fruit before I work out fruit sometimes after I work out, but mostly it's just meat Well, you know, I like to say the best thing about what you do here is you give everybody their platform to talk about Their their way yeah, and you know, your platform is in light meat. I mean, you know, dude. I've never you know I was around some dude That was talking about, you know um My condos and mushrooms and all that dude. I never saw a drug. I never saw a drug Until I was 30 Did you see moonshine?

2:01:01Sal moonshine a lot. Well, that is a fucking job. Well, you're right. I mean, you drink you drink a half jar of mason You know, oh, yeah, you gotta die. Yeah, that's the crazy thing about alcohol is it gets the bad thing We are having nicotine right now. This is a drug and when I have these nice to guard by the way It's perfect. It's very good very mild and man when I I was 39 years old before I did any tobacco Never dipped my dad kept Levi Garrett Taylor's pride You know, the only time he wasn't chewing meant he had a life insurance policy. He had to had to He had to get blood work and didn't want to fill his life insurance policy But I was 39 my mom, you know, my moms of my mom's a character sheep, you know, but Never did tobacco never dipped.

2:01:53I put one dip in one time and threw up outside the outside my high school It's old boy threw me a dip in Indeed big old Cody act and I threw up outside the high school gymnasium and missed my fifth and sixth period and I was like, dude, I don't need that You remember those bricks little squares of chewing tobacco you bite a chunk of Oh, yeah, although and well what I was getting at is I was sitting We were celebrating the album release. I was 39 years old one of my best buddies brought a nice Davidoff Churchill cigar In any cigar I'd ever done I had smoked a cigar like in Vegas and most time back then, you know Don't drink a handle a crown and smoke cigar and you wake up the next morning.

2:02:39You're like You know your life's over essentially. Well, it's probably the handle a crown Well, we smoked that cigar and I sat in my rocking chair And just smoked that cigar and I was like man, this is kind of It's kind of nice. This is kind of like therapy right here. All these people smoking cigars aren't stupid It's got to be something to it and they're chilled out. Yeah, they're you know, it's a nice conversational They are chilled. They're universally chilled out, but it's a drug. Oh, let's it's a drug. Yeah, let's just drink with drinking coffee That's a drug This this the problem is There's a lot of drugs and some of them were really fucking bad for you.

2:03:18Here's the deal. I and and I'll call my buddy every now and then that and he was my buddy that bought me the cigar. He was a lifelong Copen Hagen and cigarettes here and quitting and I called him I'll call him periodically and I'm like You asshole. I'm stopping at a grocery. I'm stopping at a random cigar shop I've gone four days without a cigar and I'm riding down the road and I determine right now I need one you know, you we've across four lanes of traffic Find a you know, and then next thing you know, you're smoking a grocery store. I mean a gas station cigar to just but Well, hey, it keeps you keeps you keeps the head clean I like them.

2:03:58I like I said. I think it's one of the best things and I don't think you need to smoke 12 of my day. Yeah No, I don't think so either, but I know people who do I know people just go one to the other They just change smokes of garbage. Now my mother, dude Salem ultra light 100's three packs a day. Whoa Four four bud lights a day her whole life Four bud lights every day. Is she still with us? She's with us. Damn. That's the thing that always gets people They're like maybe I should quit. Hold on. Well, it was mom. Yeah, let's mom on man, dude She Joe She she's curved the bitch. She's curved the bear a little bit, but she'll drink her a couple of doles But she's gonna have her one or two bud lights every day every day She's going out three packs might she's but she's like You know, it's like if she's walking into the to the the dillards or to the tj max She's like oh my god, I'm walking in Get a couple of text couple and hit you know litter the parking lot, but she'll she'll pan fry a ribba in butter Pan fries a ribba.

2:05:11That's probably keeping her alive pan fries a ribba fry some She's string french fries and that's her damn meal four to five nights a week four 76 glorious years. That's probably why she's healthy And is ready to chew my ass out at any moment And how many cigarettes do you think she's down to a day? I hope she's probably at a pack and a half But man when you do the math when I used to sit her down to do math You know her my her my dad were married 32 years and divorced and So when she went out kind on her own I'd sit her down and do the math on four bud lights two and a half packs of salons and Four paying fried ribbys it that's becomes a damn number annually I think the ribbys are fine leave her alone with the ribbys you know what but through the years I've gotten Miller light endorsements.

2:06:04I would get Miller light Like I'll be like mama There's a Miller light truck pulling up to your house. It's going to deliver you a pallet and Miller light Just try She's trying to fall in love with Miller light, right? No, but like I'd get home for you know get home two months after the pallet got there You know there the pallet sits calling my buddies. Hey boys A lot of people had like a personal crisis when there was that bud light boycott There was a lot of people like I don't know what to do I don't know what to do when kid rock shot that bud light And then he kept selling it in his bunker We drank some we drank some on the podcast we did together.

2:06:49Yeah, and I love I love him he's been he's been a damn good buddy of mine and his has come to up my charity event He's a wild boy. He's awesome. I love that dude. He's he's he's a lot of fun He's awesome, but when I saw him do that I was like oof Imagine being the CEO of bud light and seeing that like oh no Kid rock just shot our beer With a fucking automatic and it was like fucking hyzer bush like no And I mean that alone probably cost them billions of dollars just having our beer. Yeah, when our beer When our beer is is political political. We're like not just our beer but bud light The bud light the beer that sponsored more boxing matches more sporting events more people been drinking bud light I mean think about all the people swear by bud light Postman always drinking You know my my wife's dad is a is a bud wiser fucking 12 pack a day dude man, and you know he had He had to hear a little shit from his buddies about it, but people getting fights and bars I have a friend who owned a bar.

2:08:00We we stopped carrying at the mothership because nobody was buying it We stopped carrying bud light because nobody was buying bud light Have we checked on where it? It's come back fully No, I don't think so I think there's a bunch of holdouts that are always going to go fuck those liberals forever But the lady who came up with the idea is gone like the whole the whole marketing team behind they're all gone Anisers bushes an American company that it's employed American people forever It's a great company. They just fucked up. They get caught up in the mind virus Anisers bush taught us that beer is wonderful for Christmas In clouds dails and downed hellmations are the equivalent of Of Jesus and Christmas We remember those bud light guys the real American genius guys Really American genius they had great commercials dude.

2:08:53I would cry over the Dalmatian Clotsdale commercial you remember when the little the little puppy yeah, he's riding on the Clotsdale's and that jammy oh shit It's like a friggin hallmark. You would never think that that company could get taken down But that just I think that was good. It was bad for bud light, but I think it was good. Here it is Let's see it. We're gonna get all sweet There we go

2:09:22Let's that music

2:09:30Oh little puppy got out

2:09:36Oh poor puppies lost this for beer This is for beer yeah poor little puppy Wow what a commercial Who we need to find oh god wolves they're in Colorado

2:10:06The horse has saved the puppy from the wolves have a bud

2:10:15Very effective commercial you know real quick you're happy yeah, and then there's the one where that it's a Dalmatian too that that grew up and then got to the old Dalmatian and the little you know they're riding The in the young Dalmatian sees the old Dalmatian and I think the old Dalmatian kicks the bucket and then the new Dalmatian takes its place And then you're like oh my god. That's the best thing ever. Yeah, well and that company got taken out By having a transgender woman on their can But it just shows you how prevalent this whole mind virus is that it even got into bud light Just bizarre But you know the lady who's responsible for it all Basically shit on the entire customer base You know saying that they have a fratty sense of humor and we need to update it make it more inclusive and like Do you know what you're saying you're alienating all the people that buy it and love it and counting on people Who don't buy it and love it to start buying it and loving it and maybe that'll work But you just alienated everybody who buys and love it.

2:11:29It's the dumbest poker move of all time the The worst the promised move Well, you know when you look at country music too. I mean with country music. I mean The it is what it is. There's things that it is And you gotta you gotta love on what it is and then you gotta grow it too I mean, there's there's sensible ways to grow it and But it has to be up to the artist just express themselves honestly And if the artist is a country artist that has a different perspective let that be But leave all the rest of it the way it is too buddy the it with every successful music artist that's ever lived It they may have faked you out They any any genre but country is even country's tough Because once you show any un Unauthenticity unauthenticity.

2:12:23Yeah, buddy. You're you're done. You're done. I could imagine like dude. I mean Yeah, like dude my biggest like when I Man, you know, I got My thing was tight jeans You wouldn't imagine me wearing tight jeans on stage How much that piss pisses people Well, it's cuz you're handsome But it's part of the problem. You can look and guy up there tight jeans shaking ass shaking that ass showing that bulge Get out of here dude, and then I'm like bring back Merle Haggard what the fuck is this so Joe, you know one thing, you know my biggest My biggest hurdle ever in my my career And it still breaks my heart to this day I you know back when I you my only way to You're only way to make it in music is You've got to stop people's eyeballs on you.

2:13:32You got to grab them vocally visually musically different You got to get them to stop for two seconds go what what what is that what is that fucker doing right there? and When I came out with country girl shaker for me on the on the CMA shaking my ass I mean, I had to do it that way in my opinion I had to go This is my moment to show country girl shaker for me and I'm the guy that dances and And don't give a damn unless have some fun and come along for the ride and it was amazing It was amazing You know the fact that I'm a Georgia boy at the time and I was talking to Texas people. I was talking to everybody Well then It's some point a label for me came became bro country Did you ever even heard that time I did I did because of you Yeah Well So I heard it and I'm like well bro country well then I started seeing the people make a photo bro country and I'm like This kind of fucking pissing me off And then and then me and some other artists start getting looped into this bro country phase well I When I was in my form of coming up as an artist and I don't even know we can we don't have to live on this long But you'll be amazed dude So I would go play I I made my way by going to Georgia and playing Georgia college towns It in the southeast and even I played Auburn in a little bit Auburn Alabama and that that school I never I always wanted to break into Auburn and Tuscaloosa because I was always a Georgia artist Well, I started branching out well, dude.

2:15:31I get done with the college party I'd walk off stage the first thing that would happen is Uh, you know 369 damn she fine give it to me to give it to me one more time get low get low I mean and right when my set got done hip hop The the the the vibe went to a nightclub and I'm standing and I'm at the I done walked off stage went to the bar Ordered the beer and watched everybody that just let me play Merle Haggard Johnny Cash All the classics my couple of new songs and I was like well, man. This is Nobody's got a fucking problem with this. This is this is we're all together in This good time. So when I did country girl shaker for me that made that Tie crossover It climbed them.

2:16:28It made it tie to a little bit. Yeah, and then Jason Aldin had his Um, she's country Fucking biggest song when I heard I mean at the time when Jason and I are buddies He does she's country. I do country girl shaker for me and hit me and hammer like We're like this shit our lives are I mean, I told Jason one year and he broke all of Elvis's indoor records We did it for two years I was the outener and Jason was the headliner and people and And rap was we were playing rap before the show And and everybody was in well then broke country comes along did I wake up on the bus one morning and I got this interview Sitting there drinking my coffee in my fucking underwear and this dude calls me with hits magazine And he goes well Luke you know man this broke country thing And I said well hold up buddy.

2:17:36Here's what this is And I said and man I did this and I made one fatal error and at the time Joe No one hated my ass. I believe that. I mean I did because I was coming to Billy Bob's playing Well, I had Texas. I had the I had though. I had a I'd go to I'd go to Boseman, Montana and play country girl shaker for me I'd go to everywhere. Well, and I said man I don't know How to be an outlaw I'm not an outlaw I that ain't I'm a I'm a college dude that played frat parties country music. I play. I was like I fucking did not go sit in a prison sale Like moral haggard in right songs about guys going to Death row and I didn't go to fall some prison And man, I listed all that I was like I'm not like Willie Nelson.

2:18:45I don't do Willie Nelson they're outlaws and I said if it's broke country and that's what I'm labeled as I said And where I fucked up as I said I haven't well. I haven't spent the night like sleeping on the street And I didn't say Like Johnny Cash's song Sunday morning coming down That's what I meant. I just didn't tie it Well, that dude took that article And said eluke brine says outlaw country people are basically drug addicts to sleep in the street and man I pissed that whole that the way they manipulated that story I lost that whole crowd right there Wow broke my heart and wait like I think wailin Jennings daughter went real public would be in I mean she's fucking mad at my ass Indeed she went on there going, you know, look my dad never laid and I never meant that I just meant Yeah, wailin was in there too, but we all know what all those guys are because We got to watch all the documentaries about those guys and we got to be Students of those guys.

2:19:53That's the problem with interviews. It's first of all they're trying to get you What your interviews are the beauty well, and you no one's no one's gotten pop more than you because they'll take our Man, I hope we sit here in bullshit for three hours, but they'll take your five minutes. Right Out of context and now they'll AI you That's happened a lot Yeah, so well the so what happened man that thing started growing and man I had motorcycle games wanting to burn my house down. I had oh my god when you get misrepresented in That type of deal and then the the sub categories of Articles than the article of the article of the article what year was this man?

2:20:36I don't know. We I don't it was probably 2012 or 13. So this was when social this was not as impactful. It was becoming Was YouTube even around them? Yes, and clickbait the world of clickbait was was getting started getting rockin and But what so what I did is man? I called wailin ginnings a daughter and and said I said ma 'am I just forgot to say like this like the Chris Christoffer since song Sunday morning coming down That's all I meant by that and I think she accepted. I called what I text Willie He sent me the best reply. He goes He goes it's okay to step on your dick. Just don't stand on it I call Jesse Uh, wailin.

2:21:24I call Jesse culture and she goes look what did you mean in the interview and I told her And she goes wailin stopped doing print interview and uh and It was and then but by then the the the narrative started and since then I can all I can always tell that If if that one little thing I probably would have kept that whole base And then the oh my god. He wears tight jeans and he must you know, he must Homosexual on the side, you know as I'm as I'm posing with my my my you know my all -american fans I think it's probably a thing also they think Hollywood has invaded country music Which is always a big threat because there's so much money in country music that they think these Hollywood executives Don't understand or appreciate real country are gonna come in and make something inauthentic So then they hear you saying that get misrepresented and then they take it as a part of all of that, right?

2:22:26Jo lat so my album came out. I put a I worked on an album for three years It's called mind of a country boy and I put it out like first of October And I didn't want to put the damn album out Because the reality is this I'm not at the height when every artist hits their peak every you know it I mean I sold out. I was selling out football stadiums first day three four years. I did it I know that's my peak probably. I know it is fuck. I'm not gonna even say probably. I'm a realist Well, so we put the album out and I said you know what the albums no album sale Nothing sells anymore. So I knew there was gonna be a negative take on the album I knew something negative will come by me putting the album out based on it may not sell and it it saw what it did Didn't do it did what I thought it did as me being the artist where I'm at in my life especially in this world of streaming right Nothing's buying anymore nothing's buying well, dude.

2:23:28I did 2040. I did 40 hours of 40 hours of You know all the stuff The what's happened is because of online advertising being the primary source of income for news They have to do clickbait shit They have to distort things and then they have editors that don't give a shit about anything other than the bottom line So you get a writer even if the writer is a good person I've had writers that I know have written about people that I know and they told me that their editor came in and changed things They're told me they told me their editor's answers. I asked us about to get canned. Yeah exactly because they his company just got bought by Bitcoin conglomerate exactly that That's why artists should just stay away from that shit.

2:24:12Well, and I you do and I knew it what sucks Yeah, it's you know you know you know it you know when you're getting baited Yeah, you can sit coming them all away You have to film everything you do every conversation you have with someone you should film them all so that no one can take you out of context And then if anything goes wrong. So the guys full of shit. This is what I said I didn't even make a review. I did and those people should be shamed. It's a terrible evil ugly thing You do you crush people's perspective you change how the world looks at people just for clickbait And it could it could genuinely affect someone's life and listen You know the deal.

2:24:54I mean I grew up South Georgia And You know we've raised our name kids Cook like colorblind. It's so awesome. I'm so proud of their colorblindness Isn't it funny that that is a negative thing to say today that people don't like that idea that I just say something negative Yeah, there's a lot of people that don't think you should be colorblind They think you that that's a lie say I don't think that way that was what we were all working towards until about 2012 have you ever seen like the numbers? I'm a son of this Jamie because This is what people need to understand a lot of what we're all experiencing is manipulation and a lot of this manipulation might not even be From our own country a lot of this manipulation is what happens when you have foreign entities that are manipulating people Yeah, that's it.

2:25:46Thank you. Look at that Jamie. You're the best yearly mentions of prejudice and popular US news media outlets now look at what happens Look at this crazy spike so you have everything from 1970 until you have like 1990 see what's going on in 1990 between 80 and 90 you have cable Okay, so now you have people that need more eyes on their shit So you have fox news you have a lot of this you have people to get a little bit more jazzed up Look at transphobia you never even heard what the fuck that was until 2010 look at look how it just jumps up in 2020 in 1990 didn't exist 1980 didn't exist Islamophobia same deal anti -Semitism scroll all the way up to the top though Jamie So look at racism Racism is essentially fairly steady Until around 2012 and then it goes on this wild ramp straight up The New York Times from 2010 to 2020 it goes up 712 % Los Angeles Times 756 % it just skyrocket's all the mention of racism why because no one wants racism No one wants to be racist everyone scared to be in called racist and all the race hustlers Love to call people racist so it becomes a commodity So people start to change trading and racism and this idea that you shouldn't be colorblind And then you should recognize race you should recognize color and as you stop we were on a we were on a good path Yeah, Martin Luther King said judging people but based on the content of the character We were on that path and social media and manipulation fucked us And hopefully we realized what happened now And I think there'll be a downward trend and people sort of like wake up And I think that is that's one thing that is balancing out right now with the internet is enough people Realized they've been manipulated so starting to like calm down a lot of this woke shit started to die off And it's people are coming to our senses like what like everybody's woke up from a fever dream But as far as your situation and dealing with the media don't oh, I know just don't yeah You know the day you know you know you're a little bit naive because you're a nice guy But it's because you're a good person.

2:28:09That's why you're naive. You know what man What's amazing is when I'm at on American Isle that desk And I've been doing it for nine damn years And I have cried with everybody When those kids come in they are Everybody walking through that door is a microcosm of America And man, I've sat there and loved and loved and learned Do you do enjoy doing that like seeing talent pop up nothing is more amazing Than watching a broken kid with with with that's been told They're not good and they come from everywhere they it could be the Man than the craziest thing is the is the is the kids that were raised in the homes of doctors That the doctor family Can't wrap their head around My child wanting to go try this fucking music thing what well you're you're doctors We're doctors and man when they branch out and the family gets behind them And then they go and follow their dreams and man.

2:29:20It's really Yeah, he doesn't get old. I mean listen. I mean, it's a fun chair to be in. It's a fun chair to be in because that door opens And it's a it's a life that comes in and you don't know what the hell You know, we we have a note or two like You know just lost their father to cancer three months ago You know from a small town, but other than that man We don't know what they're gonna do and how they're gonna react It's pretty cool. I mean, you know when and and and when I just moved to Nashville when American Idol was just I mean 40 million viewers a week And the you know the the tone in Nashville is that's the cheap route to get famous because I I came up through You got to play a thousand night clubs.

2:30:12You got to go You got to go through You got to meet the record labels. You got to do the radio. You got to go meet everybody at radio So with the whole town of Nashville was like what's not totally fair that they get to just pop on TV and and And certain you know and skip all the but now I mean now Now that's gone, which is great. Well, here's an example Oliver Anthony Totally Oliver Anthony has one song he releases. It's the most to pull up that song Because this fucking song this dude when I heard it is just a camera and him with his guitar. I heard it I was like holy shit That's fucking amazing and holy shit That guy better have some songs to come behind.

2:30:58Yeah. Well, he's a talented. He is. I mean very very bright man. It's what life shit

2:31:08Listen to that

2:31:19Damn Shane What the hell's got to listen to that This dude was selling equipment He'd never even done a concert first concert. He does is like 18 ,000 people at a state fair And he's as genuine as you had him on here correct I had him on here and I actually gave him advice How did he do he did great because I gave him advice before I met him because he was in the middle of all this And he goes hey man. He goes can I talk to you? We talked on the phone. I'm like what's up? He's like man, I'm getting all these offers from all these people They want to buy this and buy that and they want to give me seven million dollars if I do this and sign that I said stay Independent I go you have talent everyone saying I have to act now.

2:32:01I go fuck those people I go you don't have to act now that's famine thinking I go you're talented man Because I had to hurt a couple of his other songs as well He's fucking talented and he's genuine and I go you can't fake that Just stick stick stay independent man because they're not gonna offer you anything Those people are just gonna they're the reason why they want to give you a lot of money Because they're gonna make way more than they're gonna give you because the only reason why they want to give you money They want a piece of you before you become one of the biggest stars in the world And then they own a chunk of you forever because they gave you seven million dollars reading to have any money I go just bank on yourself man.

2:32:36Yeah, and God, you know the beauty of Idol is is And and God's like this. There's so many avenues now. You can go the old -fashioned route You can go the quick route. You can go the idle route. You can go stream on you know, you can go Video yourself on all your social platforms and the right song can blow you up But then and then you got to go do the real work You gotta do the work we tell the kids other other bullets in your chamber That's what we tell the kids on idle now. I think when idle was really really obviously When Kelly Clarkson and and carry on with one and and even People after that they went they still they went they're asked to work too and it's an insane opportunity It's insane.

2:33:19Yeah, and you know these kids on idle now they love seeing their their social media platforms Go up a thousand percent and it's worth it and you know, we you know, and there's gonna be bumps in the road and it's you know, it's still You know, it's still You know, there's gonna be a You know a group of people saying you know American I'll may exploit these kids Man, I'm in the back. I'm behind the scenes on everything and man we we won't You know, they won't When we get a kid that We love man we sit around we go to dinner and we talk about that kid and love them and and these I think you know these kids Leave it going man.

2:34:04That was a great experience for them. I hope so But you know, I'm sure they do and it is an insane opportunity if you want to be a professional musician And you want to make a career out of it It's one of the most unbelievable moments. You got to do your path. Yeah, you got my path was my path And it was unique to mine and because yours is different that don't mean I need to hate you forward This is a lot of that shit with comedians today too. Oh, because a comedian will have one clip or he's doing some crowd work Or one clip of one bit that everybody loves then all suddenly selling out and everybody's like that guy He only had one good job.

2:34:38Yeah, he's only been around for three years But so what he let him run with it. We'll let him run with it You know, it's it's uh, we're living in a new world It's like the song Why wouldn't we all want someone else to win right? What is wrong? What's wrong with people winning? It's like you have figured out how to feed yourself with a guitar Yeah, you figured out how to tell jokes yeah and make a living and And you know all like man that like said dude. I won't even post my damn deer. I killed Because I don't want to I don't want to get online and be there with a glass of wine at 3 a .m And start motherfucker Like dude, I I want to kill I want to kill them

2:35:36And I yeah you and like I said you get over it you get over it But man it pisses you all like I don't read anything I tell everybody don't read anything don't read anything about you just don't don't read the good stuff I don't read the bad stuff good with it and I mean held it. I'm sitting out 48 year old man My shit's in the bank, but it still makes you mad. It still makes you mad It doesn't matter even if you're undeniable. It doesn't matter. It's a human It's a human instinct to read negative things to get upset because humans always had to worry about threats And if the threats were other tribes or predators or whatever you had to attack that threat So we're always we're Mentally conditioned to look for a fighter fighter fly Well, it's also it's like if you have a hundred people who love you, but one that hates you That one is the one you're gonna think about you're not gonna think all the people that take they say you're awesome You're gonna think about that one that hates you And then you have to think about the kind of people that post comments most of the people post comments are miserable people Not the positive comments, but the negative comments.

2:36:39I started a thing. You know, and I know you got people in your world where Man, you know, there's assholes and you'll huddle up and you'll spend an hour talking about How you can't believe how big an asshole that person is yeah, and I'm like guys We're 15 minutes in on talking about this person being an asshole We wasted 15 minutes my life 15 minutes on All it's trying to figure out. Yeah, why can't they stop being an asshole? You basically wasted one one hundredth of your day Oh, somebody that sucks You only get a hundred of those 15 minutes of the day you wasted one talking about a shithead It's a mess, but it's a normal thing that people do you just got to not do it.

2:37:23You got to realize this Where when I see When I see other buddies doing it. I'm like, whoa whoa whoa whoa. Get out of there Yeah, man. I recognized it when I was on television before social media. There was a thing called There was these Hollywood magazines like variety and the Hollywood reporter And I would always call them the devil's rag Because I would get to the set of the TV show and everybody was reading the devil's rag They were like, oh, I can't believe their number two. We should be number. We should be right after friends Oh, everybody was upset and I was like you guys are I'm on TV.

2:38:03I don't know what the fuck is wrong with you people. I'm on television. I can't believe I'm on TV You guys are upset that we're number 30 instead of number two or whatever the fuck it is Can't we just appreciate the fact that this is back when there was only like five networks Can we appreciate the fact that we're one of the luckiest human beings that have ever lived We're on a fucking television show and yet you're reading these magazines and it's like is it Thomas Jefferson to wrote that quote Comparison as a thief of joy But whoever was that was it Jefferson? I know we know who we've read it before But that quote is so accurate comparison.

2:38:36It's that's why billionaires I I know a dude is worth like a billion and a half dollars and he thinks he's broke because he's friends with like Jeff Bezos I do not get into that you cannot get into that world They're you can't win you can't win because you're in a crazy fucking numbers Race and it doesn't mean anything. You're not even enjoying what you have so my life for her 40th birthday man I surprised her and I rented her Um, never done anything we went rented like a hundred twenty -foot boat and took all our college friends down to St. Bart's for New years. Have you ever heard of this scene?

2:39:16No, dude. Is it crazy? Joe So first of all, I mean This boat that we got is of 120 foot west port Beautiful, we get to St. Bart. I didn't know what the fuck we were doing. Oh, you're in the yacht world Okay, so you're entering into these worlds of 200 foot boats The oligarchs. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I've seen that before and it's in St. Bart's and they all They all float there for new years. Uh -huh, and it's all dick measuring contests dude And my captain of that little boat which that boat looked like Our boat that we were on looked like their shuttle boats. Right And I my captain I said did you ever pile it one of those?

2:40:05He goes oh, yeah He goes I said what what that what would they do in on there? He goes Looking at the other boats wonder I said that dude is on a fucking billion dollar yacht and piss at the other billion dollar yacht. Yeah, that's real They're all in competition with each other and they're all hating you know, and I'm entering in Yeah, you just got to get your little world like my little world now my little Tennessee hunting world. I tell people all the time They're like come on down to my ranch Oh, man, I got my little deal. Yeah, it's enough. Stay sane Keep it tight. What are they doing on that boat captain?

2:40:44Isn't that nuts? Imagine being a 250 foot yacht looking at the dude on the 300 foot yacht going god damn it I got to upgrade I was talking to a dude who pilots yachts and he was telling me that they they always want to sell them They always want to sell them and get another one goes all these yachts are always almost for sale I go how come he goes because there are always one another yacht. They always want a bigger yacht

2:41:07It's a trap. It's a giant trap. Imagine having all that money. You're not even appreciating it because you worried about making more Remember we were kids if you said to be like what would you do if you had a million dollars? Never work again. I'd fucking just well, you know, I remember dreaming Did you lay in bed and just be like? I remember dreaming about trying to do it and how I was gonna Go you gonna get rich? I'm gonna get I wouldn't say rich. How am I gonna be able to have my own little my own bass pond right? Because I would have to call other people and get permission right and that day the anxiety of calling old farmer Right going hey, you know farmer Johnson.

2:41:50Can I go fish your bass like? I don't know loop Not today. I'd be like And so I remember doing that and then when you start achieving it man I still I mean, I don't I don't think it's I don't think I'm living in that world of like the other right digging You know, I think you can for a minute. Yeah, I think it can I think you can for a little bit like it's a trap It is a trap in the problem is it's all numbers numb It's like you know dudes are crazy with deer like I want a 200 200 inch me. I want a 400 inch elk they get crazy with numbers You know, I talked this dude who worked on a ranch and the they have big elk on this ranch And he said sometimes the countries are really happy with an elk and then they'll put a tape to it and measure it And it's 396 and they get bombed out because it's not 400 I'm like those people are sick.

2:42:42You should never have them here again. You should boy Band them. They should never be allowed to be here again. That's a sickness But that's what happens with these people with everything man I never had a dream of being wealthy. It was never a dream It was never even and never even in my imagination. Did I ever think I was gonna be rich? I never even thought about it When I started doing stand -up comedy my dream was to be a professional because I always had jobs My dream was to be able to pay my bills with comedy. I looked at all that was yeah That was now My dream Yeah, let me make sure I didn't steer you wrong on that my my dream was to To do these things out of being driven Like right and I mean when I moved to Nashville I wrote on a chalkboard right in number one song You know When a when a CMA award, you know, I had a little vision board nice But I didn't understand I didn't really a comprehend the money after that because I didn't know it and I didn't know like Like people are like I'm a big Georgia Bulldog fan And they're like did you go to Georgia and I'm like Buddy me going to the University of Georgia when I was 18 years old.

2:43:57I mean, I Barely my dad barely got the money for me to go to the community college 12 minutes down the road So going to Georgia didn't Wasn't even I didn't even put it in there right so go ahead about just saying that When I see people that that's all they care about is the money And then they're always thinking about the richness in them. I just think it's a trap And it the problem is if you're always comparing yourself to other people you're not gonna enjoy what you have You know enjoy this experience temporary experience of life right, you know because it is temporary It's so quick. I'm 57 years old.

2:44:34How the fuck did that happen? All of a sudden you just keep getting older and Then you know one day you're dead and I bet on your deathbed you're like how did it happen so quick How did it happen so quick? What are you doing with your time and are you enjoying it? And I think you need things outside of what you do that you love and like for you and I I think it's hunting and Outdoors because I think it balances you I think there's something very spiritual about it I think there's something just being in the woods is it's a very spiritual experience like a real spiritual experience Like they're I think it's like a vitamin that you don't know you need until you get it and when you get it You feel better when I'm out there.

2:45:16I feel better. I just feel better. I'm like the air is cleaner I feel more in touch with being alive. It just feels better And I think I'm not thinking about anything else when I'm if I'm elk hunting. I'm not thinking about Jokes and I'm not thinking about podcast gas. I'm not thinking about jack shit I'm just thinking about what I'm doing. That's it. It's and it's it's very difficult to do and it's it You have to really focus and you're thinking about it and you're always trying to improve and this that alone is good for your brain It's good for your life. I lost you know, I lost my brother in my sister in my sister's husband passed away and man when and then yeah, I lost my brother at 26 my sister at 39 and her husband died at 45 And man, it is present The daily appreciation of this deal Yeah, it's visually present.

2:46:14Isn't that crazy about people though? It's like they need to lose something to be able to appreciate what you have. Well, and I tell people Man, you know, you you meet I tell people man really be careful because if you make it to 80 You're gonna get you're gonna get popped with something dude. I don't think you can get through this thing Like some kind of a disease or something. No, no, I don't what I'm saying you're gonna lose something You're gonna lose something dear You're not gonna get through a to z without really a hard A hard loss. No, that's and it's a part of life and but some people man.

2:46:54They're just Delusional and then well they're delusional and then a lot of people are medicated too So that they don't even know what the fuck is going on while they're living this life They're living this life under the influence of the pharmaceutical drug companies and they're just floating through life in a haze and they don't even know what's happening while it's happening And then they get to the end and then what'd you do? What'd you do? Did you help people? Did you make people feel better? Did you inspire people? Did you enrich people's lives? What'd you do? You know, and then then you have to realize like god damn I wasted a lot of time reading comments Thank you Thank you for doing that a lot of time get mad at us.

2:47:36I don't do it bad. That's what's funny I don't do it bad but everybody says they don't look at their phone Let me see his green time. He has six hours. Jesus bitch. We did Oh lord. Yeah, man. I mean Well, we're all this is a new world too in terms of that. I keep saying this is a new world But there's really is a new element to our lives is this social media element and I think there's not a lot of Stuff that's written on it where people understand. Yeah, we're learning. Yeah, we're the we're the where the lab rats We really are especially our kids our kids really are the lab rats that we the kids really are and not just that I'll also access to violence.

2:48:19They see so much violence. See so much online. That's horrible think about I think about this all the time I would go stay with a buddy At his house He go man. I rented faces of death remember those I Wouldn't watch him. I'd be like man my parents told me not to watch that He go what you don't watch this guy get electrocuted and I'm like Fuck no, I don't want to do you get electrocuted dude We're watching people We're watching people there It's yeah, if you're on Instagram. We're seeing people dying every Every day Every day I have friends. I mean Breaking. Oh, yeah, I mean, I remember Joe Thasman When Joe Thasman broke his leg Dude, it's like shut the country down.

2:49:17Yeah, I know now that's it now. It's lying. That's nothing I was to do it on a diving board and his foot fell in a crack in the dive More than opening in it and he went forward and his knee stayed in the same place and it just snapped his leg the wrong way And he's screaming hanging from a broken leg That's just one thing I saw today I thought you don't do that. I I watch things on Instagram I just don't read comments But me and Tom Segura we send each other the most horrible shit every day It's ridiculous But some days that he sends me things. I don't even look at him. I'm like, no, I can see it coming, but I do love I do love the funny comical aspect of it that gives me in a cup A coffee dying laughing at some person being a goofball or memes.

2:50:07Oh some memes Yeah, memes are some of the best comedy out there and it's just random people create these funny things There's a lot of funny people. What's amazing is we've gotten to where we can see the meme happen and predict the meme and the means on your phone Yep, the next day and you're like within hours. Oh, yeah, they're so quick And memes are weird because a lot of times you don't even know who made it you're sharing it Somebody sends it to you you send it to other people like who got who made the who's the wizard that figured this out is a fucking hilarious like a meme factory Well, it's like jokes remember jokes like you know two guys walking to a bar those jokes who fuck them wrote those We don't know but some of them were bangers.

2:50:46They spread they just spread spread across the whole country But somebody how to be the guy that sat down and tells the story two guys walking to a bar and then you know You know everywhere um Well, I mean There's a million places we can go, but It's you know, you look at Yeah, I mean the damn children my kids. I mean, we're yelling at them every day get up get off the phone Yeah, get outside and they do a good job, but man, I think it's just It's a part of it's a part of their deal. They're being influenced by things far beyond our control You know way different than anything that any other generation has ever experienced before like my son He's 16 -year -old quarterback And man he watches all these other quarterbacks on on a you know hell there are 14 recruiting Downloads sites from that that in my son's like that dude right there is the greatest quarterback In the country.

2:51:50I said well, how old is he bow? He's 15 dad. I'm like bow We don't know what that little shit's gonna be What are you talking about? He goes well dad. He's a five star and he's 15. I'm like But your dad when I moved to Nashville I was a one star country singer If I'd had a rating next to me and probability of me making it Yeah, I wouldn't it would have been of one star. I worked myself into a hopefully a three star Three star recruit and he's looking me like I'm crazy and so one of those kids He played he played him now my son's not starting. He's back up quarterback to a great quarterback And we played him and we beat him We get down he gets home after the game.

2:52:42I said Would you think about your your little savior there? He goes He's still the greatest quarterback of all time. I said, oh he lost the fucking game He's 15 Just son let it let let let let life happen before we avoid Yeah, you know just be inspired be inspired for other success But don't take it too seriously And also recognize that kid might start getting laid and throw it all away exactly He man. He don't know what's gonna. Yeah, you're 15. You don't know what the fuck's coming your way You don't know one. Yeah. Yeah, you run into some Russian chicken in this class Yeah, it's some new Russian exchange student that needs a and he's an English tutor Yeah, all of a sudden you know how many sperm left your body and you're dehydrated all day long Yeah, you're you're getting the lecture lights on the sideline and you're not doing any offseason running or lifting You're busy Oh Also people just they lose the focus, you know, and sometimes they get pushed too hard by the parents There's a little bit of that too the kids rebel.

2:53:49They don't want to do it anymore anything can happen But that's what's fascinating about life is that it's all open your daughters are How old now 28 16 and 14? Yeah, the 16 and 14 the 16 and 14 are going through a total of different experience the girls are All girls the girls are girls are way. I mean, I just the way more influx and negative my heart. Yeah, aches for for girls in this In this well, there's a there's some alarming statistics about the growth of social media from like 2009 Where you see girls with self -harm all sorts of psychological conditions online bullying because girls are fucking vicious to each other online Boys will run into each other and punch each other in the face.

2:54:35Yeah, but girls will attack each other's Character and they'll care their reputation destroyers and they love to like make up stories about girls and be mean about girls And talk shit about the way girls look and the way girls dress and the guys girls are dating and they do it to each other and it's just It's unfortunate, but it's that's what gossip used to be gossip used to just be talking though It's like a normal thing where girls get around and talk but now they talk online and when they talk online then other people read And you're ruining people's lives and you're ruining little girls lives and suicide is off the charts and self -harm is off the charts and You know mostly young girls are getting affected when you have when when I have my 14 year old go dad.

2:55:15I'm anxious about this. I'm like I didn't know the word anxious. Right I didn't know the word anxious Until I was 35 year old Right, right, right. It wasn't thought when we were kids in high school. It wasn't processed as anxiety. It was processed as light life Yeah, I'm nervous. Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, I got a big test my stomach hurts. I gotta go take a shit right right right Yeah, right now it's the thing they think about all the time and the problem with that is Abigail Shryer wrote a book about this you focus on your problems your problems oftentimes become bigger I mean you think about things like anxiety.

2:55:52Guess what makes you more anxious It doesn't help it. It actually has the opposite effect Yeah, it's a weird world, but they're gonna be okay. We're all gonna be okay We're just gonna have to adjust and figure it out on the fly It's just this this adjustment is bigger than any adjustment than any generations ever had to make before But it's also like look at things like Oliver Anthony good comes out of it too. Yeah, you know jelly roll jelly roll Jesus love that dude best thing ever. He's one of my favorite human beings ever best thing He's such a fucking sweetheart best thing ever and that guy sang that song saved me and everybody was like What is going on this this fucking ex -con with tattoos on his face with a voice like an angel Best thing ever incredible But that's this is all possible today too.

2:56:41So you got good and you got bad It's just you got to navigate the waters. You got to know where the rocks are Steer that boat young sailor You know and you what amazes me is is Man what breaks my heart is when people think they're all alone in their Thing that's hanging up their life right when you meet somebody And it's all scaled Way differently like when you meet you know, uh, you know, I've had people you know You know when you when you grow up in a country music band and you're on the bus for hours with buddies And everybody go they got their own life and then man I you find out I had one band member almost kill herself over something That if he to just had somebody say man I have that too right Right, and he would have not felt alone Right, and and people have got a quit like thinking that they're the only ones That have gone through some she gone through this thing.

2:57:51Yeah. Well, that's why you need people that you love Yeah, that's why you need friends see my household my household was a man We sat at the dinner table and dude it it it came out That's good and then but my wife's household was man. They you know bottled it up And it all worked and we don't know who came out better But but me and my wife you know we we work on like You know we work on like I mean like my wife never saw her mama like in the shower Like just showering you know like walk through the house naked I mean hell we had one bathroom. It was like we're a bunch damn naked idiots run around trying to get to the bathroom And my my wife say yeah my mama did not uh Shower with the door open and I'm like or And I'm like really She's like I'm like you're kidding never once.

2:58:47I'm like just that's kind of crazy Everybody's when you have daughters is a certain amount of time where you can't be naked in front of anymore Once I hit like four or five years old you like okay, that's a wrap my my six -year -old some my beard We're living in our guest house right now because we're doing some Some work to our main house or you know Our main house had stuff that just kept happening and we were like We're moving out and when we move back in have it all fixed So we got three we got a 22 -year -old a 16 -year -old living in the same house Well, my wife stored all of my all of my bathroom stuff It's in a it's in a box somewhere on my shaving gear I run into my son's bathroom my 16 -year -old and I grabbed just beer tremor I grabbed a I grabbed this fucking tremor sitting there and I shave my beer and I'm all up under my nose and Is my ball hair?

2:59:38No I get my truck and I'm driving on the road my son gets home from school crying laugh what Dad You shaved your beer with my ball tremors And I was like You little shit I'm first of all like what in the hell 16 -year -old man's keeping What the fuck's going on It's a new world I'm like dude I never imagine you had I don't think he's you know whatever these damn It's so fun man these kids my dad my my God it's so amazing dude we you know we were elk hunting man and My 14 -year -old we we got this really cool When we go elk hunt we got a way to cross a river To get to our elk spot And the first couple years man we didn't we just stripped down to our underwear and and and hung our boots and all our gear And walked underwear and dude it was kind of like a We're really man, you know, right and So Tate and bow bow the first time I would put him on my shoulders and walk them Well then after two years we were like dude Let's go by and get like eight pairs of waiters And set them on the bank and we'll leave the waiters and everybody's like Oh damn good idea.

3:01:13I'm like yeah, I mean how many years to take y 'all to understand good get some damn waiters So Tate for the past the last three years I've I've told him across the river and Man, I looked at him the last day of the hunt and this was Tate Tate's year To try to get an elk and he Actually dad. I kind of messed up the elk hunt. I moved and spooked the elk Which was great because he realized that Just because you're Luke Brian's son you don't get the damn elk but uh and I said hey Um, I Said uh, I want to touch you across the river. I said you're growing and this probably the last year So I told him across the river and then on the way back he gets hey dad.

3:01:55I want to wait it by myself a man he He what you don't realize how much your kids really are watching you But we're sitting on the bank and he's watching me and I sit my bow down He takes his bow and sits it down and He watches everything I do and it was cutest thing ever. I haven't told my wife So every year I take my boots and I time and a night and I Hang them and throw them over my because we're tote and gear and I know my boots over my shoulders So they're not they don't get wet and the man I looked at him and he he's sitting there tying his little string He stands up those in boots and he just man watching your kids just absorb it is just uh You know it's pretty damn special like having a beautiful life my friend well.

3:02:44It's uh It really does kids make it It really does it really does Luke thank you very much, man. This is a lot of fun. I hope we Was that more than three hours? What? Yeah? Yeah, holy shit. Yeah, it's 4 .30 Three hours. There it is Mind of a country boy listen or download now Look at you handsome bastard. Well fucking tight jeans Tight jeans everybody hates me They don't hate you man. Just don't read the ones that do. Oh shit. Appreciate you brother. Thank you Love you. Hey, love you too. Love you too. Bye everybody