#2224 - Tim Dillon

24:41This was even then. Oh yeah. And then there was a decision made that the best candidate to play ball to unite the party and to get rid of Bernie Sanders was Joe Biden. So all of the Democratic power brokers, all these big wealthy families decided to line up and destroy Sanders and elevate Biden. And that's when she said she left politics because she said she was so disillusioned because she thought her job was to help wealthy people make like, you know, political decisions that helped people get healthcare or whatever. But then when she realized that the job is actually to get rid of people who want to change the status quo, she became disillusioned, she left politics.

25:28But she, that was her job. And, you know, so when somebody talks like that in the Democratic party, Bernie Sanders was doing it, they get rid of him. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. It's it. You thought he was interesting. You endorsed him. You said, yes. He would be a very interesting candidate. Well, I liked his idea of making things easier for poor people. That's right. I think giving people a path to get out of abject poverty is a good idea. And his idea of taking and funding all these social programs based on a small percentage, like a fraction of a penny of all these speculative gambles that the stock market's doing.

26:05Like, maybe that would work. But it was like, and then he came off your podcast and they go, he went on a transphobic pod, like the attacks started immediately. Oh, yeah. No, it was, I mean, it was the first. Yeah, they, they called the podcast racist and homophobic and all kinds of different things. And I got, I got, I found out about it because I got a text message from a buddy saying, you okay? I'm like, what? Right. And then like CNN is a, they wrote a hit piece on it today. I guess for what? Right. For Bernie Sanders, like what? So this is the, you come out, you endorse and a, a left wing candidate and even endorse them.

26:39I said, I said, I'll probably vote for Bernie. He's, he's anti corporate. He's from outside of the system. And then immediately your attack, they attack the podcast. So it's like, yeah. You know, and then Kamala Harris, God bless. But this woman is running on a platform of joy. Joy is important. Joy is the, is the policy, the policy is joy. I want to take what she's taken when you laugh at all the time. That's not fun. The platform is joy. And there's people right now that can't feed their kids that are emiserated for whatever, you know, for whatever reason that they're, they're not doing well.

27:17And they don't have healthcare and she goes, be joyful and our joy is our work. It's like crazy. It's like fully insane. And I don't understand who that connects with. Well, it's completely manufactured, right? The whole thing is manufactured by the media and by whoever is running the country. Whoever's running the country, by the way, you're doing a great job considering there's no president. Right. We've had no president for months. That's right. Kamala Harris, maybe years. Sure. But Kamala Harris has been campaigning. She has no time to be president. That's right. Joe Biden is gone. Right. Every now and then, somehow or another, they let him wander over to a microphone.

27:55Yes. And he says, wild shit like I like to take these Republicans and smack them in the ass. Yeah. And he puts a mag hat on. He's getting fun. By the way, I voted for him today. I still support him. And because he's fun now, he clearly wants Trump to win. He hates her. Yeah. And he never liked the Obama. This is well known. Well, Jack Post, how do you say his name? Post -Posobic. I believe. Jack Posobic posted on Twitter that there was a physical altercation between Jill Biden and someone from Kamala staff. I don't know if it's true, but it's fun. Well, listen, Jill Biden, we know is a psychopath.

28:31And we know that because she's very supportive. She's encouraged her husband, who should be on a porch to run for president. It's disgusting. Jill Biden is one of the most, yeah. I think sometimes she's not. I think it doesn't do good in the bright lights. She's one of those doors. She's sharp as a tattoo. She's a woman who claims to be a doctor. She's not a doctor. When you know that, why? You know Jill Biden. She's a firefighter? No, no, no, no. Jill Biden just has a doctorate. She's not a doctor of anything. That's interesting. And she makes people call her doctor Jill Biden. So, ready, she's mentally on fire.

29:04Like Phil Cosby, I'm a firefighter. She's not even like a professor. Like, is your professor? Right. And you have a doctorate somebody might say, Dr. Rogan or whatever. Right. But this idea that she's the first lady, not a medical doctor, not a professor, and still making people call her doctor. While she's doing the least doctorly thing ever, which is letting an elderly man be paraded around to try to win the presidency again, it's crazy. Well, I think she was enjoying the power. Yeah, of course. And I think that ring is very hard. My precious. They don't want to let it go. They don't want to let it go.

29:41Oh, my precious. Well, she's enjoying the power. She's enjoying not going, you know, maybe members of her family not being a jail. That would help. That she's enjoying that. Do you think he, uh, pardons his son? Because his son just got hit with a bunch of tax evasion charges. I mean, I don't know. I hope Trump pardons him and invites him into the administration. That's the ultimate win. Hunter goes in the works for chance to have him on the podcast. No, Joe. And he didn't stop. I thought it was early, early on when he was writing a book. Remember when he wrote a book? I remember that. Yeah, they, they reached out to, to get press.

30:17And then the laptop story kind of blew up. Oh, yeah, well, then, then I was like, get him on. And then they were like, no, no, we, you don't want to pre laptop. You want to post laptop? This was post laptop, but they thought they had squashed it. So this is before Elon had purchased Twitter. Gotcha. Once Elon purchased Twitter, and then they understood that there was a coordinated effort by 51 former intelligence agents to say that the laptop was Russian disinformation. That's right. And then, and then the fucking cats out of the bag. And then everybody knows what's going on. But well, this is also the problem of saying that Donald Trump is a unique threat to democracy when you have literally, like credible, documented examples of intelligence officials lying to the public and facing zero consequences and trying to manipulate an election.

31:06I mean, that's, that's, that's a huge problem. Well, Google's doing that right now. You know, if you ever see the Robert Epstein work, Robert Epstein's work, Robert Epstein has compiled like, I'm familiar with a different Epstein's work. Yeah, yeah, definitely. If fimeral interactions with Google, like Google search engine results and what you're, what you're shown on your home page of Google news and how it influences people. Right. And how you can sway undecided, like in a significant way, right towards one candidate or the other, depending on the search results. But one thing that people point down on Twitter today, Jamie, let's see if we could replicate it.

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33:25So here it is. Look at that, they're both for hair. The first article is asked why. There's only one reason anyone votes for Trump. It's just hilarious. That's the, so you don't see this. Google, hold on, slow down, slow down. Google admits Trump Harris search for discrepancy says, fix is coming. I don't know what the fuck that means. But look, at the bottom, so you Googled where to vote for Trump. Scroll down a little bit. Scroll down a little bit more. Where can I, Google search? Where can I vote for Harris? Shows. Right. A new conspiracy theory is taking root in election. Click on that, a variety thing.

34:01So this is it. Where can I vote for Harris showed a map while similar Trump search didn't? So you Googled where can I vote for Trump? It didn't show the map. Now it's Google, where can I vote for Harris? Let's see what happens.

34:20You just voted for her. Vote centers. By the way, that's counted as a vote. You just, that's counted as one vote. Let's go back to the top please. Let's see what Google, OK, same thing in the New York post says fix is coming. Voting for Kamala Harris, Donald Trump will harm people. So it's negative things about Trump, where you get negative things about Trump. If you Google where can I vote for Trump, you get negative things about Trump. If you Google where can I vote for Harris? And then right away, it says vote centers. First search result is vote centers after you get past the news. Fascinating.

34:54So it's true. So look, see what there is? You don't see vote centers. You see all these stories. You don't see vote centers right away. When you Google where can I vote for Harris, you see vote centers right away. So it's not a conspiracy theory. If you could just reproduce it, fuckers. Yeah, right away. There's clearly a slant with what, you know, the media. And that's the other thing with that map popped up. I think Trump said, you know, the advantage is he's also running against the media. And the media is terrible. And I think his, one of his big advantages has been, you know, he's been able to kind of call them out successfully multiple times.

35:39Yeah. And so it's not just he's running against Kamala Harris. He's running against a hostile media that does a terrible job at reporting facts when it comes to him. Now, Donald Trump says, wild shit. And some of it's, a lot of it stands on its own as wild and crazy. Yeah. But when they manipulate it, you know, Pierce Morgan the other night when he goes, it'd be a blood bath in the auto industry if I'm not elected. Right. And then they just say, oh, there's, Trump, if he's not elected, it's going to be a blood bath. One of the reasons why I was willing to endorse him was watching Obama repeat the lie that he said that white supremacists that there's very fine people on both sides.

36:19Right. Yeah. That's a terrible lie. He literally says, I'm not talking about white supremacists in the KKK. Those people should be condemned. That's right. That's what he says. Yeah. Well, and that's all I was talking about was the people that were coming to protest the fact that a statue was being taken. What's interesting about Trump is not what it was. He was the first guy. Yes, he was the first guy in Palm Beach. Whatever you think of Trump, this reason, so not like him, this very legitimate reason, it's not to like him. But he was the first guy in Palm Beach that opened Marlago to Jewish people, to gay people, to people of color.

36:53Like people were allowed. There was all these country clubs in Palm Beach that prevented those people. And now obviously people go, well, he just did that for money. And it's like sure, fine, whatever. But like he was the guy who did it. Right. He always put it as short of members. Yeah. He did it for money. Like, yeah, he opened the door. And, you know, so to me, it's like his one of the, his biggest advantages has always been that the press cannot help themselves when it comes to him. They are rage addicts and they like hating him. And he feeds them and they get more popular and they get bigger when he is around.

37:35Well, when he lost the election, CNN dropped 40%. That's right. So right away. They're addicted to being in a, you know, hostile, contentious relationship with him. And then misrepresent a lot of what he says. Just flat out lies. And that's a huge problem. And they can't help themselves. If they got out of the way, it would hurt him because like any politician, then you're just going to be dealing with other politicians or your supporters or your detractors or whoever. But you have this media that's lying about you and you can constantly call it out. It helps him. I think the cat's out of the bag though with the media.

38:18It's over. It's over. It's big time. I mean, the video that I did with Trump is well over 100 million views. Yeah. Between Twitter and YouTube and Spotify, well over 100 million. The one I did with Elon just yesterday was this morning. It had 65 million views just on Twitter. I don't want to upstage you. The video that I did with JD Vance got 3 billion views. Billion. It got 3 billion views. Nice. So I don't want to upset you. But no, I mean, do you think it's going because I mean you talked about this, I think it will be decided tonight, but you think maybe not. No. Not if it's close. Interesting.

39:01I think that's when shenanigans take place. Shenanigans. If shenanigans are real, okay? If there's the really, there's manipulation. Manipulation will take place at four o 'clock in the morning. Interesting. Don't you think? Well, don't you think that's when ballots show up? I mean, if you're going to cheat, there's a big old man around me. There's a big old man around me. My grandmother died in 2017. She was a big Democrat. She'd been voting lately. And she voted six times for Kamala Harris. And if you think that's wrong, that's disgusting. I don't know what to tell you. That's who she would have voted for.

39:31She probably would have. Yeah. So in her honor. Yeah. In her honor. I don't know how much fuckery is going on down at the ballot box. Probably some for sure. So my friend who's actually outside, but I'm not going to say his name. So I don't want to hurt him. Andrew Vickers is a Boston comedian. Someone sent him a thing where there were duplicate ballots in Georgia in 2020. Like weird stuff. This weird stuff. Like really weird. Now I was a guy who was like, I bought the idea that I was like Trump lost and people wanted Biden and whatever. And maybe that is a guy. I don't know, but like there's, there seems to be more evidence of fuckery than I was willing to.

40:15But that doesn't mean it's, there's probably fuckery in every election. There's not zero. There's not zero. Right. So in every election, there's something. When I asked Trump, like how do you say you lost the 2020 election? Can you prove it? So he told me. I gave him, I gave him all the room. I would have given him an hour. Yeah. Like tell me. And he's like, there's plenty of information. They wrote a book. It's coming out. Okay. You got to have digestible form. You've had four years. Maybe it's out and I don't know. I haven't seen it. No one's saying my way. I'm willing to believe, and I'm willing to believe we know that the tech companies and the Intel agencies all coordinated to suppress certain stories and like they will admit it that.

40:54No question. You know, I haven't seen the direct evidence of that selection interference. That is hugely election interference. I haven't said that would have affected millions of people's decisions. Yeah, well then that's a huge problem. That's a giant problem. You have 300 million people. The elections in the counties where Biden won was by like how many votes total? I think it was in the United States. 83 ,000 in PA. It was very crazy. That's crazy. It was crazy. And if you imagine if 83 of those thousand people, if just half of them got a hold of that laptop story. Yeah, and listen, I think a huge problem is that the intelligence agencies are completely unaccountable.

41:35Yeah. Meaning that there's been no accountability at all for anyone who suppressed the laptop story. I mean, where is this Kim Chitalwoman who, the head of the Secret Service, the craziest thing in the world, the slope roof lady, the slope roof. I've taken gravity bunk hits on acid on roofs that have more of a pitch than that. And I didn't fall off. I'm not exactly a Navy SEAL. And I was able to do it. They had snipers on a similar roof that had more of a pitch. The whole thing is a shady, is humanly positive. He was cremated. The house was 11 days. The houses were professionally scrubbed. Professionally scrubbed.

42:13And then nobody talks about it. Well, did you see the cell phone data that shows that someone was meeting up with him and meeting up with the FBI or close to the FBI offices? Was meeting up with them on a regular basis? Where is this woman? Is it in a black rock commercial? It the whole thing is weird. And then beyond. It's beyond strange. Lee Harvey Oswell, 2024. It's fucking crazy. And he has no digital footprint. Crazy. There's not one part. There's very few people that age that have no digital footprint. And then if you talk about any of this or you see anything, people write it off as sort of a QAnon, whatever.

42:49But it isn't. It's valid legit. And people, normies, people that don't think like this are even going that was fucking weird. It's just weird that they never had a press conference. They never had a toxicology exam that was released. It was not like someone wants to shoot the president. Wouldn't you assume that person's out of their fucking mind? Maybe they're on meth. Maybe we can find some sort of a reason while we feel a bit better. And then the next guy was a guy who like the three stooches, a barrel of a gun is going through the bushes on a golf course. Like something out of the marks, brothers.

43:27And that guy was a guy that like CNN or MSI forget, which one had been speaking to about like the Ukraine, he wrote like a song about the Ukraine and how important it was to support the Ukraine. And he's being like interviewed by the news, like a cable news and they had a relationship with him. And imagine if Fox News had a relationship with somebody who tried to assassinate Obama by the Harris. Right. That never you would have never heard the end of it. Right. Most people hearing this, maybe you're hearing this for the first time, but like he was, this was like a source or this guy that they kind of profiled.

44:06And you know, it came out that he was, and then his kid got busted for child porn. Wild. Just like Stephen Pattox, brother. Yes, that's what's wild. I'm just saying, how much do you know about the Vegas thing? Is it true that there's three women that we before? Dent to the room with him? I was reading this thing the other day about how there's three unaccounted four women that apparently checked into the room with him. Interesting. I don't know that. But what's that, Jamie? Never heard that. You never heard that? I've researched a lot. I mean, there's cell phones, I think, that were found that were unaccounted for.

44:42He had a girlfriend that wasn't there that I think he sent to the Philippines or something like that. But that's right. Mary Lou Danley was a girlfriend who went to the Philippines. Jamie's controlled opposition. You know, you can't really, he's a Reddit mod. I mean, he's a guy. He doesn't know where he's getting text from Netanyahu. This kind of, Kamu Harris on Speed dial. Yeah, I don't know. It feels, it's an interesting day because everybody has a weird tension. Yeah, not here. People are friendly here. But I was just in a car accident. Everyone was friendly. And the cops were for everyone to kind of friendly.

45:14But did anybody recognize you? No. It's where the glasses. Yeah, there's a nice Mexican guy. It was good. Like nobody, my friend, you from the team Dylan show. Yeah, it was, it was all very nice. And it was not, and that's the thing about cars and say, can't be nice. And it wasn't my car. It was, you know, it was kind of a rental and it was just kind of nice to meet people and be out. But, you know, it is a weird, there is an interesting. I think people just want this to be over 100%. They need to move on. Yeah, it would be nice, no matter who wins if we get all. Just take a breath. Let's imagine she wins.

45:53And one of the things that she has been very good about during the whole campaign is changing her opinions based on what people think. Absolutely. If we can influence the president based on popular opinion, is not a good thing. Joe, I'm great at lying. Get ready. I hate ice cream. Like what she has been able to do, which I respect is look at the American people in line with them. And that's good. Or at least adjust her opinion. She's adjusted. Let's like be, you know, I agree. Listen, I'm terrible. I'm charitable with her. I'm very charitable. I don't think she's like the worst. I like her. I think she's fun.

46:25I think she'd be fun to sit and have a drink with. I was really hoping I was going to get to talk to her. I was wishing that you would go. I mean, just the options were fly to her and meet for 45 minutes. And I was like, that's not what you do. It's, you know, Elon said it best yesterday. He goes really fine out about people an hour, two and three. Yeah. Like you could bullshit people for 45 minutes, an hour, two or three. Something's going to come up. Well, the great thing about your show is that it's not scripted talking points where people don't come on with the agenda and go, here, I want to say this to that.

46:57The other thing, you sit there for hours, you talk to them, you have a real conversation and what they really think will come out. And but here's the thing. I'm going to be nice to you. I'm going to be nice to come on Harris. I would be so friendly to her. I wouldn't try any gotcha bullshit. I'm not interested in doing that. I genuinely wanted to know who she is. She was guns with her as a boss. Sure, let's go shoot. I take her to the range. She was on this show getting high, smoking weed and then waving a gun around. Well, she didn't have to wave the gun. I thought that's, you know, that's bad gun handling.

47:31Of course, but it's, I understand. Gunsake is important. Don't point guns. Sure, but it's fun. Even when I unloaded Tim Dill. Yeah, but it's fun. It would be fun, but here's the thing. If she did come on and just had a little cocktail. Yes, her and I have a couple of whiskeys. Yeah, I'll talk a little shit. I bet she's fun. She's not much older than me. Yeah, no, she's probably fun. She probably is surprised by when she was younger. Yeah, I'm sure she's, listen, a track of lady. She's probably surprised that she's running for president because they told her, you know, she probably wanted to. There's reports that she was like, you're not going to pass me over because they wanted to.

48:02What she said. Yeah, they didn't want her. And she really had that kind of say, though. Yes, because she, because she would have thrown a fit and said they, they overlooked a woman of color or had a press conference exposed a lot of shit about how the machine works. Whatever she could have done, they didn't want to deal with that. And she's been a careerist her whole life and she wanted the job. And what I heard was that Joe Biden kind of forced her in. No way. What I heard was that they were going to have a primary, but the Joe Biden said that he endorsed her. He endorsed her and then it was this weird situation where they got to kind of like run her.

48:40Interesting. By the way, I'm here in this. I'm fucking. We're all here and from random. Allie ways. We're allying it. I think she's, she's a very motivated strategic person. Is there any evidence of that, Jamie? Find out Joe Biden endorsed her and whether or not I think he was made to endorse her. You know, he doesn't. I'll check that, but there are three women that are supposedly with. Oh, oh, good. I just checked this in. Oh, there was. Yes, all right. Stephen Patix Hotel records show. Oh, you control that position. It's fucking fact check by community. So, six years old, but the while still the old story six years old.

49:11Stephen Patix Hotel records show three women registered in his room. Interesting, but they could have been. Oh, yeah, probably this guy was a crazy. But you remember, Bo Gammal, do you register a hooker to the room? Fuck yeah, if you're a wild man, if you're a wild man. You give him a car, especially if you don't want those lady stealing your Rolex. That's a good point. You got to trust him. That's a good point. You got to trust him. That's a good point. That's a good point. That's a good point. That's a good point. And he drugged him. He was probably showing you the Rolex. He probably was a dumbass.

49:42He showed the Rolex. And this is my dick. Right. The Hans is probably not so slick. It's, it's a, um, but if you wanted to make sure that they weren't stealing from you, you like, you have to have ID to get in the room. You have ID to get into the room. That would be like, yeah. Because this guy's a riverboat gambler. This guy's a wild dude, right? He was a professional gambler. Professional gamblers. I think hookers and professional gamblers, they just fucking. And also he had no track record. That's the other thing that Patrick was interesting. He just kind of is the easy merged. Right. That's interesting about these people.

50:12Steve, uh, he might have been a gambler, but they gave him credit for being like a, uh, a video poker. That's where he made all this money. And if you ask people that are really in the game, I'm like, no one makes a lot of money. Video poker gambling. Really? Well, they, there's a little kinds of reports about that. That it was some weird Saudi coup that they locked down the country and the days after. I don't really know enough about it, but it was a very strange thing that has never been fully. I mean, he just shoot me at a concert. Like what supposedly he lost his mind and then he just wanted to kill everybody.

50:45And here's the thing though, that's real too. That's real too. That's real too. And if you really wanted to make a splash and you knew you're going to kill yourself and you were some fucking psycho and you just wanted to gun down a bunch of people and bang. Oh, let's see what's next. I, you know, it's one of those things where it disappears and then the thing about all of this is the news moves so quickly and so much is going on. You can't, it gets hazy. The recollection of it. Like the Trump shooting even, the recollection will get hazy. In a few months from now, forget a few years, even in a few months, the idea of it being a slope roof, people don't remember.

51:23Right. People just remember a guy climbed on a roof. They don't remember it was 120 yards away. The Secret Service didn't clear the roof. He was walking around. People were telling them there's a guy walking around. He's creepy. He flew a drone over the area. He had a rangefinder. Yeah. All of those details that are very important. But the rangefinder's nuts. Like anybody with a rangefinder should be arrested. Right. If you have a rangefinder and you're walking around an area with a president or president candidate is going to be detained. Someone should find out what you're doing, what you're up to.

51:57And didn't you have explosives in the car? Yeah. He had explosives and there's sophisticated with radio control devices. He had remote controlled explosives. Like how is he getting that? He's 20 years old. Like what Google search do you have? Like where are you ordering these things? How are you putting them together? Yeah. Someone manufactured for you? Who would you buy it from? Where's the investigation? Nothing. There's one thing where his father is leaving a Costco. There's one like video, Cheamy, maybe you could pull it up. Where there's like one reporter and his dad and someone in like a mask are leaving a Costco or BJs or something like that.

52:40And he's like no comment and he just gets into his car. That's kind of the only time I've ever seen the parent. This is the only, I think they released a statement like we're terribly blah blah blah. It's also interesting. It's like some people, here it is. This is the dad. Well, this is Trump chooses dad blows off questions. I got a piece at but he's there's another one where he's leaving a Costco. Let me hear him talking. I was trying to find out that was the correct video. Yeah, that's him talking. Let's hear what he says.

53:18Is there any statement you'd be willing to share with us right now, Mr. Crooks?

53:24I got a piece. I got a piece says, for us, come quote. Interesting. Yeah. I mean, that guy's a little casual for the fact that his son just tried to kill the fucking president. He said Costco, the week after the kid, he looked very calm, leaving Costco. And he has a full cart of food leaving cut like it's insane. Well, not only not imagine your son is, forget about the fact that he tried to kill Trump. He did kill someone and he shot. He killed a guy. Two other people. He killed a guy who was trying to shield his wife. Look at that limp. Can you stop this for a minute? Who is getting that much food two weeks after your son tried to kill the president?

54:07Well, look at the size of that fellow. He has a full cart of food. I get it, but he has a full cart. And by the way, he can't get anyone to go to Costco for him. He's walking around by many tequitos. Wait, probably doesn't have any money. I mean, he's not a wealthy guy, right? I mean, you gotta have a friend that looks like a Costco for you. That's a pretty nice car. What is that? You gotta have a friend that'll go to Costco. This guy's got a full cart. What is that car? That looks like a pretty nice car. This is just a weird, to me, it's an interesting, like right after your son does this, you're at Costco buying the store with the unibomber.

54:39Yeah, with someone with some fad in a mask with sunglasses on. The CIA goes, well, we'll take you to Costco. Keep your mouth shut. Yeah, look at this guy with the glasses. What is this? The hat, the hood. What's this? Yes, he's got gloves on, dude. He's got gloves on, so he doesn't leave fingerprints. It's crazy. The guy has gloves on. It's insane. What does he have gloves on for? No, no. It's not cold out. Don't show me this guy dying. Jamie, can you please stop with your algorithm. Jamie enough? Jamie was raised on live leak. He was. He was. Remember that? Yeah, he was raised on beheading videos on live leak.

55:15That was back before Instagram. Yeah, now a good old days. I've seen more people murdered over the last three years on Instagram than I have my entire life of people psychosending me things in the end. It's crazy. Did you see that video where the kid jumps off the cruise ship and the shark gets them? It's tough out there. But you can't do dumb shit. Sometimes you do. Don't do it. The summer between high school and college, we all know one person who did a really dumb thing and that was it. And sometimes you're that guy. Nobody wants to be that guy, but sometimes you're that cautionary tale. And that kid will be immortalized every time that someone, someone will go out to dinner or something like, oh, one, I was 18.

55:55We took a cruise for our high school graduation and a kid jumped off the boat and a tiger shark got him. That was it. Jesus Christ. Why don't we let go? And people will talk about that until their kids that it's a terrible thing. There's not a moment you hit the water. You fucking feel those teeth on your rib cage. Well, I think he's treading for a minute. And then you just see him kind of go under. They don't know what it is, but it's probably a shark. And he voted for Kamala. So if you're telling me, he's not even racist. Well, Oprah, last time I'm watching Raleigh and I'm watching Oprah's out there and she goes, if you cast a, if you don't cast about for Kamala, you may never be able to cast a ballot again, which seems extreme.

56:36That's so crazy. Can you get the rally? I want you to watch this. Will I am? Is on the rally and he's doing this crazy Kamala rap. And then there are these two white kids, like college kids, like awkwardly dancing to this music. And then there's Doug M. Hoff and then Tim Walls. And I'm like, these are the whitest people like Kamala's just surrounded by the circle of like white nerds and weird people. And they're all like kind of trying to dance. And it's like a really sad, where's Michelle Obama's just a much better speaker. Like Michelle Obama. And she run. I don't know why. She would have won.

57:11She is in a landslide. When you watch her talk, you go, she's political talent. It's raw. It's amazing. She can deliver. She can deliver. She didn't want to, she went with it through her husband. Yeah. Fuck doing that. I think she was like, fuck this. It's a, it's a perfect shitty job. Not only that, you don't make as much money as you do being an ex -president. Yeah, I think if Trump didn't have the rallies, he might not want to even do it because it probably sucks once you're in there but it's probably fun to be able to go on the road. Like he goes on the road, like a comedian. Right. And he's able to kind of, you know, I bet once you get in there and you realize, oh, this is how it all works and this is how many deals everybody has that are pre -existing and if I touch this, this happens, if I touch that, that happens.

57:49I bet it's probably not that fun. Well, I bet it's probably fun. Well, first of all, Trump is almost 80 years old, right? He's been famous most of his life. Yeah, it's good. Most of his adult life. And at this point in time, you know, he's not only apprentice anymore, how's he get his jolly? Right. He's performing when he goes out and he does those, he kills his bits. He kills people love it. Yeah. He says funny shit, man. And here's the thing, Eddie and Andrew Solven, who's a writer from the UK, who's again, not even, he's a, he's a, he's voting for Kamala, but he lives in America, but he said, the thing about Trump is like, you can't say the rallies are not democratic.

58:26Where the most democratic thing, it might be, he goes, it's America in its foul list glory, like, listen, it might be crass and it might be certain parts of it might feel, you know, what a vulgar or whatever, but it is democratic to have people come out, to speak directly to them, and then have them vote for you. That is in essence democratic. Well, you have the same thing on both sides. Right. You have low information tribal voters. Right. So you have low information tribal voters on the left who really do think Trump said, there's very fine people on both sides and really do believe in the Russia hoax, really do believe in all that stuff.

59:04And then you have people on the other side that are like ready to fucking shoot liberals. That's right. And they have their signs, their Trump signs electrocuted in their front yard to make sure people don't steal them. And there's people that are off the rails, tribeally, when you have a group, and this is why I try to, if you make a group and anybody could join that group, it's gonna be infiltrated by idiots. 100 % of the time. And then those people are gonna do radical things in the name of your group and then you have the proud boys. Yes, and then you have the extremes. You have people that just drift towards the extremes.

59:39And the whole premise of political life in America should be to keep people from drifting to those crazy extremes. 100%. And the more you meet people in the middle, the less they're gonna do that. The more you are reasonable, instead of attacking people in this fucking crazy way where we know it's not true, I can't, like, I used to think Obama was the best president ever. Because Obama, I think, still to this day, the best statesman. He was the best example that you could take this guy who is from a single family. It's not like he didn't grow, single mom, he didn't grow up with great privilege.

1:00:15Obviously a brilliant guy. Obviously very smart, great orator. And hey, we elected a black president. Maybe racial tensions can relax a little bit in this country, realize anybody could rise based on the merit of what they can do and who they are and what they stand for. I was like, he's the best. Finally, I felt really good about America when Obama was the president. Obviously I wasn't paying attention to politics back then. Because I didn't understand about who's one of the worst presidents ever in terms of going after whistleblowers. That was a part of the hope and change website was that they were gonna provide safety to whistleblowers.

1:00:49That's not the case at all. It was one of the worst. No, Obama was in extension in many ways of the national security policies of George W. Bush. Which was a zero tolerance policy for whistleblowers. And the government has proprietary information. And if there's two things that were passed during his administration that should terrify people. One of them, I think NDAA was passed during his administration. And the other one was the CIA's ability to use propaganda. That the intelligence agencies are now legally allowed to lie and use propaganda and fake stories in the interest of national security.

1:01:32The problem really is you're taking on, when you take on this behemoth, this thing that we've built, it's very difficult to make inroads. And I wish Trump luck, I wish anyone luck, that is trying to take this blob on this. Also unruly, unelected, unaccountable. You don't know how to do the job. You've never done it before. And they don't tell you how to do the job until you get in there. The no one explains to you what the fuck really goes on until you're behind the closed doors. That's why you got a guy like Putin. He knows how to run Russia. He's been running Russia for 25 fucking years. This guy knows how to do that job.

1:02:14He's really good at it. If you take a comic on the road with you and he's got to do an arena and he's only been doing comedy for 10 months. Like hey buddy. Well Putin's job is to just mediate conflicts between oligarchs, which is what he does very well. And I think that's what people misunderstand about Russia. I've read a lot about Russia and poison rivals. He's really good. He's got, well, you know, people get sick job. They do. I was so mad they all got Russian money. They gave Tim Poulmo these people Russian money. I've been defending Russia for free for two years on my show. Not a dollar.

1:02:44How did they get that money? What is the actual story behind the Russian money? I don't know, but it was a front group that was, I guess Russia was giving this group money and they were sponsoring these media entities that were, I don't think David knew, I don't think the people knew that they were getting Russia money. But some of them might have been able to sniff it out. I don't really know. Here's my question. Yeah. Isn't that a way that they could compromise you without compromising you? Sure. Just say you're connected to Russian money. It doesn't matter what your opinion is. Like say if your opinion is counter to the narrative, but they sponsor you and they give you the money and then it leaks.

1:03:21Thousand percent. That could have been it. It could have also been Russia doing it. It could have been us doing it. They could have killed Navalny. We could have killed Navalny. There was no reason for them to kill Navalny. He was in a Siberian prison. We had a very, but he was an enemy of Putin, right? Yeah, but he was in a prison in Siberia. And you know Navalny. You just wanted to get him whacked. No, because Navalny was never widely popular in Russia. This is a lie. Navalny was an anti a very, you know kind of anti Jewish, like kind of really right wing character and a lot of his early writings were about that.

1:03:55Then he took a trip to Germany and then he came back incredibly progressive and very enlightened, talking about Western values. Really? So he met someone somewhere that said, actually this is better. And he came and said, okay, they're like tamped down the juice stuff. So then he goes back to Russia. You know, it does all the things. He makes these documentaries that all the Putin's oligarch friends have big houses. Can you imagine that? People that are working with the government get really rich and have big houses. This is crazy. This is only in Russia. So Navalny does this whole thing and he shows all the corruption in Russia.

1:04:24And then our good government people go, look how corrupt Russia is. Putin's cronies get all these big houses. And Americans go, oh my God, so corrupt over there. And then you know, listen, they try to poison. I'm not defending you. St. Putin's a great guy. But this idea that, you know, we like to look at other places and identify things that we are also doing here. Well, that was one of the things that Trump said that people would agree upset about. We kill people here too. So I don't want to live in Russia. I don't think Russia is a better place to live. And I think that the childish admiration for Putin amongst some people on the right is a little silly because they wouldn't want to live there either.

1:05:04And they wouldn't be good to do a podcast in Russia. That being said, why are we spending billions and billions of dollars to try to drain the Russian military over a land border with Ukraine. We have zero. And the reason is black rock and all these companies are being promised a lot of land in the Ukraine. They're being promised all, you know, Ukraine's a bread basket of Europe. There's tons of agricultural land. A lot of it has a ton of it. There's minerals. Yeah. Lindsey Graham, I mean, Jamie probably has that, that quote where Lindsey Graham literally said the quiet part out loud where he said they've got all these minerals.

1:05:39We can't let Putin get that money. And he says it. And he's saying it out loud. And so a lot of people are just like, listen, and the Navalny thing happened when we had a bill that was, I think it was a $60 billion bill for the Russia Ukraine war that wasn't incredibly popular. People were getting sick of it. And then when Navalny died, I'm like, I don't know who did it, but I think that was the thing when he died, there was a renewed, you see, look how bad. Don't you see why we need this money? Look how terrible this person is. So it would have been a weird time for Putin to kill him. It wouldn't have made any sense.

1:06:22Right. Putin's aware that we have a bill on deck. There's something crazy about Putin killing him exactly at that time. Let me hear Lindsey Graham talk. Let me hear him talk. For Ukraine. I am for Ukraine support. We can't pull the plug on Ukraine. Let Putin get away with this. We need to be all in with the goal of allowing Ukraine to evict the Russians. Pause for a second. Pause for a second. Tell me you couldn't picture that guy with a ball gag. And like, I don't know whether it's tight -to -eat. That's the least of what he has. But Jamie, there's another thing where he literally talked about the minerals, the rare earth minerals that are in the Ukraine, which is the entire reason.

1:07:07It's like, I put it on my Instagram. It's like, it's one of the craziest things I've ever seen. Yeah, there it is. This one right here. Ukraine sits on, go back up to the top, where it's at. They're sitting on $3 .00 for Putin. And that also could be good to our economy. So I want to keep helping our friends in Ukraine. They're sitting on $10 to $12 .00 of critical minerals in Ukraine. They could be the richest country in all of Europe. I don't want to give that money and those assets to Putin to share with China. If we help Ukraine now, they can become the best business partner we ever dreamed of.

1:07:40There we go. Paws. How crazy is that guy? And how crazy is his job? International fuckery. Yeah. Money and minerals. Well, he's kind of, I would imagine something I should have been, is he's a kind of a closeted gay supervillain, which seems like a fun thing to be. Why would we let people get that money? Is he supposed to be married? Is he married? Find out. But I mean, it's a fun thing and there's something funny about it. We started feminine. Oh, he's a gay supervillain, which is crazy. They Putin get that money. That'd be the best business partners we've ever had. Trillions and trillions and minerals.

1:08:22I love pussy. Trillions of minerals in that Ukraine. It's wet pussy. Ukrainian pussy. Something. It's crazy. But then you think about it. And there's all these young Ukrainian men and Russian men who are dying in this war because we've consistently told them not to make peace. And that's the dark part of it. He's never been married, has no children. Interesting. Oh, interesting. He was close friends with John McCain. What's that supposed to mean? Well, why you throwing a McCain or the bus? He's dead. He can't defend himself. So Lindsey Graham is a fun gay supervillain. And you need that. You need it because he just made his way up the ladder.

1:08:59He just made his way up the ladder. Like those guys are just like different kinds of people. And I think that's what most normal people who live normal lives have a hard time understanding. Because if you are a guy who works at a fucking auto repair shop, you have no relationships at all with people like Lindsey Graham. You don't even think they exist. Right. You know what it's like when, well, let me tell you, you don't have kids. But when you have kids, one thing that happens is you go to these things where you have to hang out with parents. And the only things that you and the parents have in common is that you both have kids.

1:09:37And so you have these fucking agonizing conversations. And then you realize, oh, these people don't know any fun people. They don't have anyone in their life that lives a fun life. And they start asking questions like, how do you come up with your jokes? Like, when you, how do you make your podcast? Who are you talking to? Who do you get these people to come on? Like, when you do it, how do you get into the UFC? Like, all that stupid shit. But it's like, they don't know anybody who's living a weird life. Right. We don't know anybody who's living that weird life. That weird Lindsey Graham life, when you're all huddled up together, wearing fucking suits and ties.

1:10:11And you're in these like, these halls of justice, these important, you're in the Senate room. You're in this room where everybody stands up and claps when the president says the most mundane shit. Well, it's also very political that political, the survival instinct. It's like somebody has decades of being in that position. I'm thinking about running. Oh, it's a lot of fun. Well, you think there's a bit of Congressperson? That probably can't. You got to go governor. Governor. Exactly. Let me get a fuck with this. Should we live in it? No, I would never run against Abbott. I love that guy. How about you?

1:10:45Right then and there you can't. It's you're not cut out for it. Yeah, I got to move to. Not cut out for it. No, yeah, my ammo. Do it a different way. I got to move somewhere. You top. You top. You could be a morgan. I'll become a Mormon. I would have a lot of fun. I think about it because I like DC and I think it might be fun for a few weeks to be like a press secretary. That would be great. I bet those people party. They're Paul, of course they party. I bet they party hard. I bet. They party in ways that are probably too hard. You know, I tell you the one night where I went out. I think there's documentaries about how hard they party.

1:11:15I tell you the one night that I went out with Dave Chappelle and Denver. Tell you the story. Yeah, it was like the wildest thing ever. Well, it's like he knew these after hours places. It was like a scene in John Wick. We went through an alleyway. We went through this big door into some like fucking warehouse and then there was this bar, this beautifully appointed bar where the guy was wearing like a fucking a tuxedo shirt with a vest on. The woman was beautiful and there was no one in the bar. There was me and Dave Chappelle and a few other people and they kicked us out because Dave sparked up a joint.

1:11:50Oh, that's so funny. And then he took me to another place that was crazy. But it's like he knows places where you can go and be private because he's stupid famous. Of course. So when you're a fucking politician and you're a part of an industry that has existed in these shadows for decades, doing things outside of the public's knowledge, the full integration of the intelligence agencies in the deep state. Everybody's got dirt on everybody and there's madams and fucking. The whole kinds of hookers and crazy shit going on. Right. You know, so many people make it through that are like Andrew, the Anthony Weiner guy.

1:12:26Absolute freaks. Yeah. And they're in there. They're in there deep. So this is like just one of those. There's probably a fucking shit load of them. It's in there. They kind of keep each other's secrets and they probably get together and they put on mass and fuck each other. Yeah. It's like eyes wide shut. Yeah. That's, it's probably real. It's probably otherwise what are they doing it for? I think it's to good point. What is the point? How do you let your hair down? Well, that's all the thing with the Obama shaft. People go, oh, the shaft. And I go, if you can't drown your lover in Martha's Vineyard, why do anything?

1:12:57Right. If you were the president, what the fuck is the point? I mean, truly, think about leaders throughout history. What is the point of not being able to kill your lover in two feet of water when he's a great swimmer? He's a great swimmer. I'm very fit. And none of it made any sense. But it's like, that's the whole point. It's like, what happened to that investigation? They will never be one. Weird. There's never going to be one because at the end of the day, I don't think America really wants to know. I don't think they want it. I think Tucker Carlson wants it now. Tucker might. He's maybe one guy that wants to know, but even him does he really want to know?

1:13:32It's the whole thing inside. He has the guy on that claims he sucked Obama's dick. I know, that's a talk for an hour. I know. But that's the thing. It's like I think that there's a deep, deep misunderstanding of what this place is. And it's not only crazy, like, oh, it's sex parties and stuff like that. But we're doing a lot of things all over the world. The people don't really know about. Nobody's abreast of what we're doing. Right. So doing things in Africa. We're doing things here. We're doing things there. We've got a lot of, we got footprint everywhere. And we're backing people that sometimes there are people we align with our values.

1:14:21A lot of times they're not, right? Like the whole Israelic Aussie thing is a big problem for Harris. It's a major issue for her in Michigan. And if it's interesting, yeah, it's big. Did you see the reports that she was running to separate messages to separate places? She was running a pro Israel message to one place and CNN called her out on. And running a pro Palestine message to another place. A lot of them do. That's crazy that people are not going to check. And it's crazy that CNN called her out. Do I have hope for CNN? Like I think I do. Yeah. I think CNN probably recognizes, hey, we have to actually just say the fucking news.

1:15:03Except for our pharmaceutical drugs. But everything else, just say the news. And I don't know what Trump will do in that situation with the Israelis. I hope you're on by CNN. I hope that we don't invade Iran. I should have asked him yesterday if he was going to buy CNN. That would be amazing. Imagine if you go buy CNN. If you go buy CNN, does CNN make any money? It's worth a lot of money. Is it? Yeah, because you think about the money that they generate through advertising. But it's well the pharmaceutical act. That's the problem. So if he buys CNN out, but it's a large chunk. But the thing is like that money is real money.

1:15:38That's how that's a keeps him afloat. Like if if they're numbers, if they had exists on YouTube, a CNN's numbers existed on YouTube, there's no way they'd be able to support a giant fucking building filled with employees. Wouldn't he be beholden to the same corporate advertisers that hold everybody hostage? That's meaning like the main, the biggest advertiser in all of these cable networks is pharmaceutical companies because they're all the demographic is geriatric people watching them. Well, the problem is that you can advertise a pharmaceutical drug companies in this country. And only two countries in the world allow us a New Zealand and New Zealand's more restrictive than the United States.

1:16:14Like have you ever watched the ads on Fox News? It's crazy. It's like life alert. It's like fold down in a shower. What's all pharmaceuticals? Fox News, if you think about it, the demographics are older scared white people. That's what they think about. When I think of Fox News. Yeah, so I guess you just got to find a way to make it profitable without those types of ads or those companies have to let you. This is my point. I think it's a Ponzi scheme. I don't think it is profitable without those kinds of ads. No, it won't pay. Because it's not profitable based on the viewership, right? So you can get major advertisers who are willing to spend a lot of money for the prestige of being on CNN.

1:16:50There's something to that. You know, like an ad on CNN maybe means more than an ad on YouTube. But the reality is, if you look at the actual numbers, like how much revenue you're generating for your company, unless you are engaged purely in propaganda. And this is the argument. So like, what was the quote that someone said to us the other day about how it was Callie Means said how much the pharmaceutical drug companies spend on advertising every year? And it's billions of dollars, just on ads, billions and billions of dollars. I think it was, was it eight or 80? What did he say it was? Jamie will find it.

1:17:28It's gotta be crazy. It's an insane amount of money. But that money is not making them money in terms of so many people are seeing those ads are going out and buying drugs. What that is doing is ensuring that there's no criticism. It's ensuring that you don't question any narratives. That's right. That all the Robert F. Kennedy junior types, they all get demonized. They all get called cooks. They all get called dangerous anti -science people. But I'm excited, you know, if Trump wins, I'm excited to see if RFK really gets to like start. Look at that. Look at that number. 2023, pharmaceutical industry, spent around 15 .58 billion in advertising.

1:18:08$15 billion in ads. That is crazy. That's so much fucking money, man. Well, how are people going to know about the drugs? It's not that, man. I don't think it's that. I think it's a little bit of that because it normalizes it. It gets the words out. You know, what we also don't have a function healthcare system. Right. So it's not supposed to be like a grocery store where you pick the drug. It does. If you have a good doctor, you can have a functioning healthcare system. Yeah. You got to have some cash. You know, that's a problem. It's like we have everything's for profit. Everything's like there's a million.

1:18:44You ever go to a pharmacy in like a Scandinavian country? There's like 12 things. Yes. They don't have like our pharmacies are, there's aisles and it's like a grocery store of all kinds of different shit. It's just a real problem when you allow people to profit wildly off of people being sick. Then they have a vested interest in people staying sick. Well, that's why whether it's mental illness, physical illness, whatever it is, what about RFK? You think I would be interesting to see him try because you know, he's, you know, for a long time, you know, he's been an advocate on behalf of not only obviously environmental stuff that's well known, but like public health.

1:19:21Yes. So be interesting to see like what 100 % first of all, why do we have fluoride in our fucking water? Yeah. Does one of the things that they're talking about that RFK is that? Well, the British people's teeth are gross. Yeah. Brush your fucking teeth. Is that why I'm, yeah, but they have fucked up teeth. I think part of the reason why they have fucked up teeth, they ate a lot of soft foods for generations after generations. Is that the fluoride though that doesn't man? Well, fluoride does have a reaction to your teeth, but I mean, you're swallowing it. So how much of it affect is it? And also it's really bad.

1:19:50It's bad for IQs. It's a direct correlation between high levels of fluoride and drinking water and low IQs in children. You can, there's a corresponding number depending upon the amount of fluoride in the water. Now this, I think the whole way they found this out about fluoride and teeth, I think it had to do with natural fluoride. And I think it all began in Texas. What is fluoride? Fluoride is a mineral. And fluoride is also a neurotoxin, like at certain levels, like depending on how much. But the point is the corresponding increase in sugar consumption is not taken into consideration when people are looking at when they started, people started getting tooth decay.

1:20:29And like whether or not they're at fluoride in the water, like we went, there's a time in our history where all of a sudden massive amounts of processed food and sugar are introduced into our diet. Like whatever it is, 70s, 80s, whatever the year was where sugar is serious and do fucking cookies and candy bars just paint game everywhere. That's when people started getting more cavities. That's also when people started experiencing all these health problems. All that stuff is together. Product diseases and the auto -emusion, his stuff, with fucking fluoride in the water. That's like saying, oh, some people get skin cancer, look, put sunscreen in the apples.

1:21:03No, hey, you fucking idiot. First of all, you can have toothpaste with fluorid in it if you so choose. Mine doesn't have fluorid in it. I haven't had fluorid toothpaste for fucking years. I don't have any cavities. You know why? I brushed my teeth. Where is all this non -fluorid teeth, can you share it with some of mine? Toms of Maine. Oh, it's Toms of Maine. That's good stuff. There's a lot of companies that sell. And Eddie Bravo had a really good point, believe it or not. Eddie Bravo had a really good point that wasn't crazy. He said, why would they say fluoride -free in a toothpaste if fluoride wasn't potentially bad for you?

1:21:37Why would anybody want fluoride -free toothpaste? If fluoride was really the active ingredient that was preventing you from having tooth decay? Well, it's also when I saw Doug M. Hoff at Waterburger or Trump at McDonald's, I was like, we shouldn't have these politicians be in these, they're kind of like poison factories. We should have politicians that's kind of showing up to a Marbure factory and lighting up. Like there's something weird to me about. Yes, but. Yeah. Yes, but. I eat McDonald's. If I'm on the road, I'd like to go. Like you're a big eater. You have to stop comparing yourself to other people because you have a tremendous amount of discipline and it's like the nine -year -old getting fat at McDonald's is not going to be able to.

1:22:17So I'm just like this celebration of fast food. Unless I love fast food and I was raised on it, my family raised me on it. Thanks. But like when you see politicians going in there, it is a weird feeling. It is weird. It's like odd to see that. Yeah, I can't, but I'm liking it to be in a Coca -Cola factory. I don't have a problem. That's bad too. I know. But I think again, I do have to send the military into these places. Taco Bell, Danny's, they fucked us all up. I say we've got. Taco Bell now has the mexi melt is back. Did you know that Taco Bell? I don't even know what the mexi melt is. It's, well, it's on the decades menu.

1:22:56Taco Bell is bringing back things from previous decades and they've brought the mexi melt back. They're fucking, because those amping all this shit hit and now fast foods doubling down. Because fast foods going fuck me, fuck you. They're going to start to bring back shit. This is now coming back. That does look good. That is the least Mexican in a whole Mexican food. Yeah, no, it is nothing to do in Mexico. But fast food will not go away quietly. They think they're going to, oh, we're going to bring in these drugs. Fast foods like you will see what will do. Yeah, that's fine. You'll see what we'll do.

1:23:29I'm fine with that. No one's going to mandate Taco Bell. That's the thing. But there is, you know, there is something, you go to Australia and it's an anti -state. Nobody's allowed to do anything. But you know what? They're kind of hot all of them. No, no, they have grass fed beef and their burgers. I know. My buddy Adam came over here and he had a, he always gets a quarter pound of cheese in Australia, whatever the fuck they call it. And he said he goes, dude, I had one over here. It tastes like cardboard. It was fucking terrible. Right. He goes back home. It's like fresh grass fed beef. Well, also they'll pass you over.

1:23:58If you're driving in Australia, they just have, do we check points no matter who you are? And you'll just go through them and blow. And obviously I'm against that because I think it's, you know, it's like infringing on your freedom. But they love it there. Well, they don't have guns. They go, we love it and they go, we feel safe. But they're, they're supposed to, they've just accepted it. Well, they've gone to the custom to it. They're going to custom to it. They're going to custom to it. Yeah, but they don't care. That's the thing. But they do. Do they? They do. They're very upset. I talk to Australians and they're like happy with it.

1:24:25My buddy wants to move here. Of course he does because he's your buddy. But most of them are like not that bothered by it. They don't care. I'm wonder if that's true. Yeah, I just don't know. It's their reality. It's the reality that they live in and you. Because they look at us and they go, you guys have school shootings, you have poison food and you, great, you get to work and drop dead and all that stuff. We are, yes, we are nanny, which I would never want to live there. But I don't know. I talk to people there. They go, yeah, they're nanny. They don't let us do things like they regulate the food or they have the Dewey checkpoints.

1:24:59But they, I don't know, they kind of accept it. Interesting. There's probably a trade off if it doesn't get out of line. Sure. You know, like you don't want people driving drunk and if you just had Dewey checkpoints everywhere. And they all drink. They're all drunk. Yeah. That's a difference. But if you had those Dewey checkpoints all over the place and people just accept it as a part of life, how much of Dewey's would drop a ton? A ton. But I still hate the idea of it because I'm an American and we're Americans. Well, especially if you're not, here's the thing, like you can piss or a blow hot for like a drink and a half, right?

1:25:34What's the tolerance? I've gotten more accidents, car accidents, sober than I did drunk. I drove drunk for many years, never heard anyone. I got an accident today completely sober rushing to get here. Was it your fault though? Yeah, it was. I kind of crossed into a lane. I shouldn't have, but it was just tires. It was a quick thing. It was a lovely man. Everybody was fine. And he'll sue me later. I'll sue him back. Who cares? You know what? Nothing matters. Everyone's fine. That's the thing about America. It doesn't matter. You can just sue people and they'll sue you back. And then lawyers figure it out.

1:26:06Bro, if you go to court and those sunglasses, you're going to lose. I may lose. It doesn't matter. I'll just make more money. Where'd you get these? I got them at Louis Vuitton. I was fucking great. They're sick. I figured I'd shop with a gun. Tell me if I could pull these off. Absolutely. You did it. What do you think? You should have endorsed Trump and those. They are sick. They're sick. Austin, shout out to the domain. I'm going to have a ton of the domain. Can you send me a link? They're great. Ha ha ha ha. Send me a link before I forget. Send them a link. I'm going to get a pair of those.

1:26:39How do you, should you think it, does anyone concede tonight? Does anyone have a victory speech? No, I think it takes days. North Carolina is the first to call, they say. What was the longest one was the dangling chat? They'd like, yeah, that was two months. It was hilarious. SNL was doing really funny stuff. That was when Will Farrell was bush. Did you hear what happened with SNL with her? So they should have given him equal time. So they have to run ads for him now. That was really fun. They had to run some 90 second ad. Is that true? Find out if that's true. Is it true? Yeah. I read it on Twitter, but could be some Chinese bot planting stuff in my feed.

1:27:18So I say stupid things. I'm like, they're watching our election. 100%. He's watching. Like this. Like, ah, imagine voting. Right. Imagine you just let these fucking dumbasses pick who gets to fucking run the mill. I want to go there. So bad. Have you ever gone there? No. No. I went to Taiwan once. But it was a stopover on the way to Thailand. Do you like the idea of China? Like, I don't mean do you like the idea of China, but like visiting it. Yeah. I would love to see the great wall. Well, that's your into that. Yeah. Ancient cultures. And I would love to go to Mongolia. The Elk hunting in Mongolia is a big thing.

1:27:54Like, there's a lot of like Elk hunters go to Mongolia. Mongolia has like a large Elk population. And a lot of people aren't voting. What is this? Someone's in trouble here, right? Well, not quite an assatement to Hollywood reporter. FCC reportedly claimed the Brent that Brendan's statement does not reflect their views on the appearance. Oh, who's Brendan? He's the guy who was tweeting at hoods. He's one of the five members of the FCC. OK. So the agency added they had not made any determination regarding political programming rules, nor have we received a complaint from any interested parties.

1:28:25Here's my take on it. If you can't do a sketch on Saturday at Live, if that's promoting a candidate, like, you have to have equal time. Like, why do they have to do that, but we don't? Why is that? Like, if I just... They're governed by the FCC, right? I'm crazy is that. Think about that. If I just decided, you know what? I don't want to interview Kamala. I only want to hear one side of the story. Yeah. You know, I don't want to hear Tim Wallace. I only want to hear JD Vance. If I just decided to do that, I could do that. Right. Which is kind of weird, right? If it's the number one podcast on earth.

1:29:00Why am I even allowed to do that? Because you're not on government regulated hairways. Right. That's much of my point. Well, we don't want that. Let's not ask why. We don't want them coming in. Well, they shouldn't be doing anywhere. They shouldn't be anywhere. You should be doing whatever you want. I'm more for that. But here's a thing coming into this space. But why is it okay to do... Why is it okay to regulate in that regard? But you're not regulating the percentage of positive versus negative news stories. Like, you're choosing. Sure. Choosing. I only thought the regulation was just like no tits until 9 p .m.

1:29:38But it's like the rules of equal air time. Remember when SippoWitz showed his ass on N .M .I .P .D. Blue? Like, that was a big deal. That was a big deal. That was a big deal, Dennis France. Like, I thought it was that. Did they say bullshit once, too? That was a big deal. That was a big deal. Like, I said bullshit on TV. I didn't realize it was like, it was equal time. But I mean, that makes a lot of sense. Well, I think Stan Hope had an issue with that when he was fake running for president. Because Stan Hope said I'm going to have to stop doing shows because shows almost count as like a campaign speech.

1:30:07And you have to offer the opposing side equal time. That's crazy. Yeah, like I think there's laws and... Which column? I'm sure I call them. The column right now. Call Stan Hope. That's crazy. Yeah. That's interesting. All right, let's see. Let's see what he has to say. Because he actually... Oh, shit. Stan Hope, what are you doing? He... Oh, he's got a different number. Hold on a second. Stan Hope. Call Stan Hope, bat phone. That's the real one. He's got a bat phone.

1:30:45I love a good bat phone.

1:30:50Gotta hope he picks up.

1:30:55He's probably drinking staring at the TV right now. Yellen things. Small cigarettes. Come on, Douglas. We're calling. Fuck. My call back. I'm out text him. But that's interesting. Because there are all these rules that were kind of, you know, somewhat familiar with the govern the whole thing. Yeah. You're allowed to do this. Douglas, I'm live on the air with Tim Dillon. Call me as soon as you see this. I have a question about when you ran for president. Jamie, what about the exit polls? Is there an exit poll? I don't release those until the things close as well. I was looking for something. Are you anxiety -ridden?

1:31:34No, I don't think so. Are you worried at all about this? I mean, about the election, not in general. Not really. Not really. I have no more anxiety about other things in the election. What's the big, well, me, it's more. We all Google weird diseases and shit. Yeah, I don't do that. You know? Well, I mean, stay healthy. Come on, Tim, let me get you healthy. There's nothing to do with that. Weird diseases attack healthy people. But all the time. Oh, you mean like Ebola type stuff? Well, the stuff that you people just get stuff. Nobody can do sit -ups to the brisket of brain tumour. It doesn't happen.

1:32:00You might be able to. No, you can't. That's what you think so. And that makes you feel good, but that's great. That's great. That's great. You want to live for 300 years? For what? That's all I'm enjoying myself. No, I'm enjoying myself too. You want to live through the Jake Paul administration? What would it be? It's 82 degrees in New York City. Yeah, it's 82 degrees in New York City right now. I don't know what the matter is who wins the election. You know it's been worse than 82 degrees? Yeah, minus 82 degrees. Everybody's scared of global warming. Listen, you don't want the fucking ice age.

1:32:36Nobody wants the ice age. Yeah, but these fucking eggheads want to spray shit in the sky to protect us from the sun's rays. Well, nobody wants that. It just feels like eventually the planet will expel us. Man. You don't think so? No. You know, we're not gonna get rid of us. The only thing that's gonna happen to us. Let's look, the planet could fuck us up if the planet hits us with the big one that could get us for sure. Oh, I'm on D not disturb. Hold on a second here. The big one that could get us for sure is asteroid or super volcano. Either one of those could really, really fuck us up. Yeah.

1:33:05Because those are real and those happen all the fucking time. So that's our number one problem is in natural disasters. A supernova in a nearby galaxy would kill us. Any sort of like real blast from the sun would wipe out all our communication system and our grid. There's things that have definitely happened in the past that if they happen today we'd be fucked. But I think our biggest threat is us. I think our biggest threat is these crazy motherfuckers that are making all sorts of money off a war and they keep pushing these agendas in these countries. And they're pushing international conflict that we're all involved in.

1:33:41Absolutely. And it's nuts and I don't think it's going to last much longer. And I think that's where they're getting hyper focused on getting things done right now. I don't think you're going to be able to do this when you have sentient artificial intelligence. I think that is the end of all that. That's the end of all this global thermonuclear war. That shit's all going to go away. I think what they're doing right now is just mad dash to control as much resources and power and money as possible before the entire fucking world changes. And you have robot aliens living amongst us. Elon said yesterday that he thinks that what year did he say how many years, 20 years from now?

1:34:18There'll be more robots in Earth than there will be people or in America. Wait a minute. Where else will robots them be? In 20 years? What was the time line he gave us? Ten to 20 years. Does he mean like Tesla robots? He's robots he's making. I said and I was like imagine if you just robot bodyguards you walk it on the street you got two terminators with you. Is this good though? Him doing all the robot like let's bring all the better than a lot of other people doing it. Yeah. He's moral and ethical about these ideas. He's one of the first people to sound the alarm about artificial intelligence.

1:34:50That's good. That's important. You're going to make our successor. Like in these fucking people are just running towards this cliff. And no one knows where to get emerged. Well he believes now because he's running his own AI the large language model that they use for Twitter GROC. And he's got another startup is involved with Nvidia. I think he feels like he got it who's an early investor in open AI. And I think he's suing them right now because it's not it's not open AI anymore. Now it's a private company. The whole situation with whether or not they've achieved artificial senseients came up.

1:35:28Yeah. Remember when they kicked out Sam Altman for a little bit and they brought him right back in like what the fuck everyone was like what the fuck are you doing? I don't know what was going on there. What explanation but he's he's worried that there's a race going on if the wrong people win that race. It's it's terrifying. We're fuck if China wins that race and China apparently. Whether it's open AI or one of these companies there was some sort of a leak or some sort of a break in. Or they believe that someone had access to their information. Yeah. See if you can find what that is. Whether it's China that they think some is scary to imagine the wrong people.

1:36:06Exactly. Having that power. Exactly. Exactly. It's for any group of people having any group of people not just the people because the right people will be they'll be can fuck up. And they're also it's absolute power. A hacker stole open AI secrets raising fears that China could too. Security Beach at the maker of chat GBT last year revealed internal discussions among researchers and other employees. But not the code behind open AI systems. Okay. So they didn't get the code but they got internal discussions. But those are internal discussions may have had clues as to like what direction the technology is headed and maybe solve some puzzles that they didn't know yet.

1:36:45Without you know and then you could have who knows if that's all they got because there was speculation that they got other things. There's but you know China's done a wonderful job of like infiltrating stuff. One of the things that Mike Baker pointed out is that there's like a nuclear facility like or a rather a military facility that is in I think Wyoming and all around the area. The cell phone towers were all sold to America by the Chinese that they they just make deals with the cell with some of the cheaper stuff. There was this surveillance apparatus built in America that the Chinese back to order now they are using some of it.

1:37:25So let's tell you what happened in Austin. Let me tell you what happened in Austin at Formula One. My buddy Bobby owns that racetrack. So I was there with him and he shows me this picture. So you know what this is I go what is it he goes someone attached a device to our broadband to our Wi -Fi where it was siphoning up people's data like someone had a tattoo they found it and they got it and they called whoever it is Homeland Security or whatever. So if you go to like a big event and you're using the open Wi -Fi there's a real chance that someone has set up a thing where they're going to siphon up all that data and who knows what the fuck they're going to use it for whether they're getting your passwords to your credit card account or whether they're getting this or that or passwords to social media sites emails whatever the fuck they're getting.

1:38:13But if you're just willing nilly use in a VPN or not using a VPN and going and getting on Wi -Fi in some place like you you run the real risk of actually being compromised. Yeah. And like what are they getting like what are they doing with all that stuff. I don't know but if you sell if you're a hostile government and you sell cell phone towers to your enemy. Yeah, no it's crazy. And you just got these dudes who just contractors who are working for the government they're not like the most sophisticated of investigative reporters. It's just a guy who has a job. He has to buy a certain amount of these cell phone towers.

1:38:50China will sell unto us for this while we can buy from these other companies for a lot more. Let's just get it from China. And next thing you know they can drop in on any kind of information that they want who knows there could be a third party access that no one is available no one is aware of until they activate it. Yeah, they could just decide to shut all these things down they might have a kill switch in them. But you're buying like that's why they banned Huawei. They banned Huawei because they found compromises in their networks. Yeah. And then they they knew that the company was aligned with the Chinese government.

1:39:22They're like, hey, you got to get out of here. They're very good at it. It's corporate espionage. They're incredibly good at it. They've been good at it for decades and to the best at it. But we do it too. Yeah, that's the thing. Like Trump was right. Like we do it too. Would it Huawei get popped poor Jamie? Because I was mad because this is back when I was using Android and I wanted a Huawei phone because Huawei should just give it to them. They made the best phone. Let's just give it to them. And what? Meaning like, you know, it's like all this data they're trying to just give it to them. What are they going to do?

1:39:53Well, I mean, they're stealing they're stealing stuff. Let's just give them the patents. They've been banned or restricted in multiple countries due to the security concerns. Huawei was added to the US export administration's regulations entity list, which made it harder for the company to obtain parts from US suppliers in 2022. The US banned the sale and import of new Huawei communications equipment due to national security concerns. So what were the concerns though? I think that like they have to report back to like, like TikTok is a problem, but it makes so much money that world will just constantly we make money from TikTok to right?

1:40:27Of course, but that's the thing that China realizes that if you can make if Americans make money, they're never going to care. Some lady was heckling me at a show here and she said she worked from tick for TikTok. Oh, yeah. It was it was hilarious. US banned the sale and import of new communications equipment from five Chinese companies, including Huawei and CTE, amid concerns over national security. What did they do though? What did they do? I think there was something to do with routers. Huawei and others have previously denied supplying data to the Chinese government. Yeah, there was something about Wi -Fi routers and different things that they thought could be spied upon.

1:41:07That's what like 5G networks. And do you have from 5G and other countries? I don't know, but they used to make dope, well, they probably still do. They made dope phones. There was this Porsche design collaborated with Huawei and made like the best cell phone. And I was trying to buy it and then I found out you can't buy it in America anymore. I was like, what? And that's when I started looking into it. So that's like 2021 or something like that. Whenever it was, what was the year the ban was put in place? I don't know. They have a sweet one I wanted to get right now. It's trifold. Yeah, it's badass.

1:41:37That's what I'm saying. I'm just kidding. I think you're getting cheesed. You can't use it. Why? You could use it on Wi -Fi here, but like you couldn't do all the stuff. Well, it doesn't even use Google. They don't use the Android operating system. I want the Chinese phone. Do you know that? China got, they stopped using that because Huawei got banned from Google. Final Fests true. Huawei, they weren't allowed to use the Android operating system anymore either. Isn't it interesting to talk that is different in China? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, very different. Oh, wait. It says it still runs Android 10, but doesn't support Google apps and services.

1:42:14Right. Why did they do that? Why did they ban them from Google apps and services? There must have been some sneaky shit they have in the course. Of course. Yeah. I mean, it's just hilarious. But there's other Chinese companies. Like one makes great phones. Yeah. I believe that's a Chinese company. You know, there's like, there's a bunch of phony men in there. We're just in this globalized world now where you just, this is inevitable. Well, we have to try to. The world where China is making some things better than we are. Yes, same reason. Yeah. It's buying concerns. You just have to keep, you stay, stay as vigilant as you can to try to prevent this from happening, but they're very good at it.

1:42:47It seems like that's not going to stop. Well, China's making some insane cars. I'm worried about all kinds of things that they're doing. They're buying up the real estate all over America. They own large swaths of some of our biggest cities. I mean, it's like, they're aggressive on a few fronts. It's kind of crazy. They're allowed to buy land around military bases. It's unreal. That's like what? It's unreal. Imagine trying to pull that off in China. And that's the difference between having a guy who's been in power for fucking decades. Yeah. Really knows how to run the country versus some person who got elected in a popularity contest.

1:43:18It's also a difference of when people see the country as it going out of business sale. I mean, selling farms, selling everything, you know, from out from under everybody. To yard sale. It's the way people are treating America right now. It's just a fucking throw a sign on it. Make your best offer. Come in and loot. Isn't it funny that if you said you have to be American to buy American property, people would be up in arms. They'd be up in arms. And they'd say it's racist. And the real estate lobby would come out and go, it's racist. Because they want that rushing money. Because they want that fucking oligarch dollar.

1:43:53And you were the one that told me first about these apartment buildings in New York City. Yeah, they're like, go cities. It's just another thing we all go and I just read these things. They go, look at these Chinese ghost cities. They built all these cities and nobody lives in them. And I go, if you go to any of these buildings by Central Park, there's like 20 % of it occupied, 30 % of it. 70 % of it is straight up money laundering, where it's people that have purchased multiple apartments under the name of an LLC, a limited liability corporation. And by the way, they've got a lot of them. There's not just one.

1:44:24There's so many of them shell corpse that you can barely find who owns it. And it causes the price of everything to go up. And they're not living in the city. They're not contributing. They're not tipping at restaurants. They're not buying tickets to Yankee games. They're doing it to move their money out of Russia, China, the United Arab Emirates, Brazil, India, wherever. They're stashing it in these buildings. And it's causing the prices of all of the real estate around it to Skyrocket. Yeah, the real estate in New York is. But what's LA? It's even in cities like Austin, obviously, there's not as much of that.

1:45:00But there are foreign buyers in this market. We're not gonna push it out everywhere. Sold for a whopping two. Oh my God. This apartment sold for $238 million. The highest recorded price for residential property. Billionaires rose a home to eight ultra luxury skyscrapers, each equipped with luxurious amenities ranging from cinema rooms to SONAS. Look at that. The average sale price, $9 .8 million. And that's in that part of the city. That is the part of the city that is the favorite of foreign money. Look at it says here. As of 2022, there are 772 unpurchased units. Because they've built these buildings specifically for money laundering.

1:45:42Money laundering. Wow. This is not built for regular rich people. Most regular wealthy people cannot afford to live in a $50 million apartment. Or $238 million apartment. So the whole thing is incredibly, you know, it's completely manipulated. So it's not a real market. But as anything to do, it's supply and demand. It's artificially manipulated by a lot of wealthy people. And then the real estate lobby loves it. They want it. And the developers like it. Sure. And so those big money people love it. And so what's the money laundering part of it work? Because they take money out of whatever country.

1:46:24And then they stash it in America in real estate. So they'll come in and buy something cash under an LLC. And that however much money that would have been in their home country. Because some of those countries are volatile. And the governments of those countries could decide, okay, you will have money. It's 20 % of it's now ours. Right. Here's the new tax. Right. I mean, there's people that try to do it here. They propose wealth taxes, things like that. All the time. Some of them are make some sense. Some of them are ludicrous. But those people are a bit paranoid. There's also political instability in a lot of those countries.

1:47:00And then there's people that just don't like taxes. And there's people that have made money. Narco trafficking, human trafficking. Doing all kinds of things. Right. So these people that go, I have a lot of illicit capital that needs to go to real estate in London. There's an area in London called Mayfair. It's all Russian oligarchs. There's areas, you know, and London is even more than New York. London is the home for international money laundering. Really? It's the shadiest city in the world. It's really cool. It's a lot of fun. It really is. I mean, that's the thing about these people. They are fun.

1:47:36And London is a financial capital halfway between New York and Asia. You have the biggest money in the world in London. Because historically, it has been, you know, New York's amazing. New York's the greatest city in the world in the sense that I think it's the most representative. But London has always been the home of like international finance since, I mean, you know, I mean, we're talking about, you know, it goes like this. There's a part of London called the city of London is a small little part of it. And it's an area called night's bridge. And that's where they have like one -hide park.

1:48:08And one -hide park is this building with like $150 million apartments. And all these Saudi kids are driving like Bugatti's and Lamborghini's there and everything. And they have Harrod's is there, the famous store. And it's just a signal to the ultra wealthy. This is where you come. You want your kids to be raised as, you know, British gentleman and learn the ways of, but it's a home of like international finance. And it's been, there's a cool place. But you don't, I don't know how you unwind all of this. You don't really unwind it. Now, I mean, also most people don't understand it. So they don't understand.

1:48:41Who's gonna, where's all the money going to go? How you gonna get it? It's hard to fight these people because they, that's the problem. It's like everyone kind of wants to be them and then the people that don't want to be them, you know, they will kill you. That's the prop. They will blackmail you. And if that doesn't work, they will kill you. This is the thing because they are the top of the food chain. And when you are at the top of the food chain, you're not going to give that power up without a tremendous fight. And I think that's really where a lot of it, a lot of it comes down to as the preserving the position on the top of the hierarchy.

1:49:15Imagine if the United States made a law where you couldn't buy real estate unless you're an American citizen. New York City apartment buildings would, it would be bloodbath. But by the way, not only would it be a bloodbath there, it would be a bloodbath everywhere. And then people would look at their 401k's and go, all these, the shit I'm invested in is tanked. That's the other problem because all of the stuff they're invested in is based on a lot of investments being made by those companies like BlackRock and Vanguard and State Street and Citadel or Goldman. So it's just the creepiest things they're doing is buying residential homes and leasing them to people.

1:49:56Yeah, because they don't want people to own their homes. They don't want people to have the power of home ownership or the dignity of home ownership. Is that what it is or is it is profitable to buy homes and leasing them? It's profitable because they, but they, that's why they're doing it. Do you really think there's like some insidious like thing like they don't want people to have homes like really? Yes, because I think they go that I think they look at it and say Americans will be happy renting. I mean, that's the famous article by 2030. You'll own nothing and you'll be happy. But that's just those W .E .F.

1:50:27Dorks. Yeah, but those W .E .F. Dorks are incredibly powerful amongst the crew of people. They all get together. They all these conferences, whether they meet and it's, again, it's not like always nefarious, but they go to like Davos or Build a Burger or whatever. And this idea that five, that's the thing people talk about. Why should you preserve culture? Is it racist to preserve culture? And I don't mean the specific culture of any one race, but this idea that like you want to preserve culture and people go, well, why is it good to preserve traditional culture? And because there will always be a culture.

1:51:03So if it's not Italian culture, Irish culture, Mexican culture, black culture, whatever it is, it's going to be so less global corporate culture. That's why every hotel looks the same. That's why every fucking apartment looks the same. Because the same people are choosing the same fucking ten, you know, shades of marble and shades of wood. And they're putting up all of these different condos and all of these office building. That's why all these cities are starting to look the same. Everything looks like a weird Airbnb. It looks like they 3D printed everything. That's why all these restaurants are starting to look the same.

1:51:36Because it's soulless corporate culture. Americans, just like people all over the world, have less and less financial power. And more and more of it is being consolidated on the higher end. And they're going to say, you're going to rent your house. You're going to take ubers everywhere. You don't need to own a car. You're going to take whatever vaccine we think is good. You'll drive your car on Thursday or you'll be able to Uber on Thursdays because of climate. You're not going to be able to Uber whenever you want or you won't be able to use this amount of water or this amount of heat or this amount of energy.

1:52:06And all of this are going to be edicts delivered to you from the government. But also buy these corporate oligarchs. It just own everything and it's going to be a very bland and soulless world. It'll be Times Square. It'll be Times Square. What Times Square used to be? But somehow worse versus what Times Square is a giant Applebee's now. That's right. It's a giant Applebee's. And it'll be that serene, cold corporate feeling that you get now. When you walk into like a St. Regis and all these hotels are all owned by Marriott, the Reds or any of these hotels. And you walk into these hotels and it's all gray.

1:52:41It's all gray. And it all looks like a conference room and everything. Nobody's nothing's loud and hello and how are you? And no one can do anything. Oh, we're sorry about it. Yeah, we were not able to do that. We don't have the we can't do that. And everybody's rule followed. And everybody's cameras trained on everybody. So God forbid somebody does anything like you try to tip people sometimes. And go, thank you. I can't. I mean, we're not allowed to. And you're just looped because everybody's terrified of losing their job. Everybody's terrified of upsetting these people. Everybody's on camera.

1:53:13And you know, it's like it sucks. The whole thing is turning into that. And I think as much as, you know, there's a lot of conspiracies about the world, economic form and all that stuff. Some of them are probably a based in reality. Some of them are just crackbots. But one thing that I think is very real is all of those people, those organizations, they exist to create a consensus amongst the wealthiest and powerful people that it is better to favor this set of policies over that one. And all of those policies inevitably take power and ownership away from people and reappropriate that and redistribute it to wealthier people, the government and big corporations.

1:53:55100 % well said. That's a great way to put it. Yeah. And those people, you don't know anybody like that. You don't know anybody like Lindsey Graham. So you don't know the game they're playing. Well, speak for yourself. I have a lot of friends. And I'll be taking, I'll be taking Kurt very well. No, I don't. No, you don't. You're just saying you're not in that group. You meet the kids of them sometimes. And they all believe they're doing the right thing. They think it's great. And they're, they, I was, you know, I met, was it in an environment where I met some of these Harvard kids and Yale kids.

1:54:23And they're all nice people. They're good people. They're fun people. But again, they just, they have these beliefs that are all, they're in a cult. They're drilled into them since they're young. And this is the problem with the Democratic Party. It's maybe why they lose this election. Maybe they won't, maybe they will. It's condescension. And they're condescending. And they're dismissive of people. And it's a kind of a leadism that seeks to convince you that it is for your own good. That they are in charge. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, they're your mama, they're your dad. They know better than you. And that's the, like the thing when they talk about misinformation, disinformation, don't you know?

1:55:02You know the difference, right? If you know the difference, why do you assume other people won't know it? That's right. Like you want to say that other people are stupid. And they're not capable of making these decisions or discerning what's true and what's false by themselves. So you want to eliminate anything that you disagree with and just call it misinformation. Yeah. And that, not only that, but it's to demonize people, the demonization of podcasts, the demonization of people that, you know, are willing to have conversations with people they disagree with. It's all done to discredit anything that runs counter to that narrative.

1:55:36It's the same reason they don't want people to have social engagements that have any value or a lot of times the reason that if somebody says something mildly pro family, they flip the fuck out. Yeah. Because they don't want people to have a strong community with a family or a social arrangement that's fulfilling to them where they aren't dependent on not only services from the government, but also they're not dependent on the government to tell them what is valuable and meaningful in life. Right. And if the government tells you that it is meaningful and valuable in life to support the things that they support and you internalize that, then you're just going to be led around by people and you'll be doing the things they want you to do.

1:56:22And that's why they get very threatened when people say things that are even mildly suggested people are happy having children or, you know, whatever the case may be, they flip out and they go, well, you can't tell me what to do. And it's like, what is telling you what to do? But the idea that, you know, people having families is controversial or saying that it's a fulfilling way to live or, or, you know, to me, it's very strange when people kind of pray on your loneliness and they pray on your vulnerability to shove a bunch of stuff down your throat that would be harder to sell you if you had a family and or a business.

1:57:02Right. Or a house or a stake in your community. I don't think they want you to have a stake in any of those things. Right. And so logically, as they achieve more power, they will have to get people to go along with these things. That's right. And the way they do that is through forming these narratives. They have to counter those narratives is the popularity of podcasts because the narratives, like if they only had the mainstream media, they would be so much further ahead. That's right. Imagine if they only, if like there was never anything on the internet of the websites and email, nobody ever figured out social media.

1:57:40Yeah. So nobody ever figured out like we have boots on the ground in the Ukraine right now. I'm not even kidding. We probably would. If they was just the mainstream media, we would have boots on the ground in the Ukraine currently. Jesus Christ. A thousand percent there. I'm telling you there's I'm as sure of anything as that fact. Tell me it wasn't one of the wildest things the campaign when Dick Cheney endorsed Kamala Harris and the left was like, yay. Well, it proves it proves that it is now a raw power grab and that no one cares about anything. Right. And you know, I've seen I've lived long enough now to see the left.

1:58:21Admonish the CIA and the FBI and now cheerlead for the CIA and the FBI. I mean, you know, in 2003, you would you would you would see seething op -eds about the power of Dick Cheney, Haliburton, the military, the defense contractors. I rack the quagmire. You know, remember that word that no one uses anymore to describe the foreign entanglement. All of those people that supported the Iraq war all reinvented themselves as Democrats and now have jobs at MSNBC. Some of them have jobs in the Biden administration. Some of them have jobs in center right or center left think tanks in Washington, D .C. and all of those people they care to dig Cheney has a lot more in common with a lot of the people that are running the Democratic party.

1:59:17Obviously, then he does with their voters. Their voters love Dick Cheney. The people who run that party don't hate him as much as you think. Yeah. That's that's a scary thought. Right. Did you see Liz Cheney on the view and what would be Goldberg was saying she should be the head of the CIA. Yeah. No, I mean, it's it's it's it's not what you said. Can you imagine she said some crazy like that. Yeah. Like what are you doing? I thought you guys didn't like that stuff. I thought you guys were the anti -Eurac war people. I thought you guys were the anti weapons of mass destruction people. Liz Cheney for Kamala Harris is attorney general attorney general.

1:59:57Wow. What would be Goldberg biggs for it? That's what it is. Yeah. Well, it's a weaponization of the justice systems. Crazy. It's the whole thing is so weird. And so many people abandoned what it used to be to be a leftist. Right. It used to be uncomfortable discussions are good. It's good to be able to have communication with people that you disagree with. Free speech is imperative. Right. It used to be that education should be objective. And it's very important. And you counter bad ideas with good ideas. Well, it just became untenable, I think. I think leftism was driven out of the the sphere.

2:00:30Well, just went for so far left. It became a different thing. Yeah, but it became left in a way that wasn't about workers rights or economic justice. It became left in a way about like a static identity politics that prevented any discussions about CEO pay or your health care, anything like that. It just became. And I think they're really enthusiastic people about that ideology. Things are pretty good. Yeah. So I think there's a lot of people where things are good enough in their lives to worry about whether we have a trans Batman. On a person. Yeah. And I think that's the thing. I think a lot of the enthusiastic proponents of that stuff believe things are great.

2:01:07And they're only getting better. Yeah. And to sell a campaign, unless it's you may win, it's early in the day. But to sell a campaign on the word joy. Yeah. Is is is utterly insane. It's also kind of a revenge of the nerds thing too. Yeah. Because it's a complete polar shift of identity hierarchies. Yeah. You know, the people that were like the weirdos and the freaks, the trans people and the, you know, they'll all of a sudden those people are at the top of this hierarchy of oppression and celebrated above all. Yeah. But it's also there used to be those ones that cast out of society. But it's also like this, this idea that you need to keep identifying ways to divide people.

2:01:49Right. And there's no other, there's no better way to do it than to claim that everybody threatens everyone else. I agree with you, but here's a question. Is this a natural thing? Is this like a natural thing that humans do when they find a vulnerability in a social system. They attach themselves to it, whether it's white guys pretending to be black, you know, a couple of those. You know, those kinds of situations. Yeah. So like there's, there seems to be people attach themselves to something and then they sort of subvert it. But do you think it would have existed anyway? Do you think that someone has a vested interest in keeping us divided and so that these, these social issues, like whatever it is that comes up, like whether it's BLM, like any kind of social movement that creates disruption.

2:02:38Yeah. Do you think that those are engineered and those are injected into the system to make people have things to fight over? I think there's a balance. I think that there's organic rifts and fishers in society that allow certain sentiments to bubble to the surface, like BLM, like the war in Gaza and the problems and the protests that are happening there. But the minute that stuff happens, I believe people seize on the opportunity and exploit it and fund those things and bust people into those protests and exacerbate that moment. Yeah. Because it is, I think, a defining, you know, when Ramam manual said never let a good crisis go to waste.

2:03:27You know what I mean? That's the crazy thing to say. When he said never let a good crisis go to waste, they are telling you, it's like when Lindsey Graham says, I want that money. Like, give me that money. I don't want Putin having that money when they're saying it in front of your face. When Ramam manual says never let a good crisis go to waste, the whole ethos of that statement is to seize on organic problems and exacerbate them and then inject whatever agenda you have so that, you know, you can, you can then wrestle more power away from human beings. 100%. 100%. That's well said. It's like, it's crazy to watch because when I grew up, I grew up in the 90s.

2:04:13It was a time of like Doc Martins and fucking people drinking fish bowl size cappuccinos and fucking coffee houses and fucking everybody was weird. And it was there was a individualism in the 90s, Kirko Bain and fucking people in Seattle, killing themselves and making great music and rattle and all this shit and flannel. And you remember it and fucking, but there was an individualism in the 90s that was kind of like, I remember, you know, my parents saying me once, like a friend of mine did something stupid and they go, well, if you jumped off a bridge, you're going to do it. It's like, there was just this idea that you didn't have to go along with everybody else standing apart from the crowd made you unique and an individual and good and it meant that you had value.

2:05:00Yeah, Nirvana killed hair bands because of that. Yeah, hair bands became silly. Right. Right. There's no idea that I've seen attacked more than that. Being a free thinking individual is coming under fire and has over the last few decades, like I've never seen the coordinated attempt to make you think not only do you have to agree with everyone that you're responsible for everybody that was good for you. It's good for them or what's good for them is good for you and that we're all in it together. And all of these things and none of it is from a place of like, let's feed the poor. None of it's from a place of like, let's help all of it's from a very weird nefarious place of like, we move as a block.

2:05:46We are one consciousness. And again, not in the billhicks, good way in the way of like, we're going to condemn the people we dislike. We're going to expel them and cast them out. And then we're going to reward the people who will come along with us because again, we are this, you know, blob of shit that is just picking people up as we go. But I missed those days of kind of being like, yeah, man, who cares? Like, you think one way, I think another way and it's not the end of the world. Now it's the end of the world. There was less influences. You think about the influences like I grew up in the I was in high school in the 80s.

2:06:26Yeah. So in the 80s, what we had was whatever was on the radio. Right. Whatever was on MTV when that came out was like, oh my god, MTV. Yeah. And what you saw on television at night, when usually watching TV with your family after dinner or something. Yeah. You have very little access to the rest of the world. And now you're inundated constantly 24 seven. And there's a bunch of people that you wish you were. Right. A bunch of people that you wish sure I wish I looked like her. I wish I was tall as him. I wish I had the money that she has every. Oh, look at that car he's got. It's the same shit.

2:07:00And everybody gets locked into this. This fucking weird. Yeah, voyeurism narcissism beyond. It's probably more like habitual narcissists today than probably ever before. How many people that cannot afford houses are watching people buy mansions on TV. There's 20 shows about, you know, people. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, you know, famous real estate channels on Instagram that are just showing you houses you could never fucking afford. And in half of them suck anyway, if you saw them in person, just like the people on Instagram, but like this weird voyeuristic thing. Again, it's part of the flattening of everybody with technology where people individualism has been likened to being heartless, or solace, or uncaring, and that you are not invested in the welfare and well -being of others, which is not true.

2:07:53By the way, thinking freely does not mean you don't care about people. It means you're not going to swallow narratives that the defense department has handed to MSNBC. That doesn't mean you want people to live in the street. Exactly. But this is, you know, people just don't like that idea. We're just a collectivist mindset now. We're like people, you have to be on the same page with everybody. Well, I think it's inevitable. And I think it's moving us towards a very uncomfortable reality that most people are not willing to even look at. But we're becoming a different species. We're becoming a different thing.

2:08:29That's interesting. I think that's true. I mean, I think that's one of the side effects of plastics and all the hormonal effects that people are having because of this, all the thalates and people's blood streams. I think it's an effect of staring at screens all the time, becoming accustomed to staring at screens, preferring interactions online to people in person because they make you anxious. Well, that's what people, you know, this is that's such a great point. People now talk about all the time. Like, why doesn't anything feel the same? Right. No city feels the way it did five years ago. And I think one of the reasons is because we live so much of our life now digitally.

2:09:09There's that. But then there's the veil of a controlled society that completely collapsed during COVID. That's right. The veil of there's someone who understands how the system works and they're running it efficiently. That's why the subways on time. That's why the streets are clean. It's because someone's running it and they're doing a good job. And then also something happens and these people tell you everything has to shut down for a year and a half in LA. And you're like, what are you talking about? Like, how? Why are we poor now? Why is everybody broke? Why is it dangerous? Why are cars on fire?

2:09:39Why are they smashing into these stores? No one's doing anything about it. Like the veil got completely removed. So what LA seems vulnerable now. Like when I go through LA, it seems vulnerable. It seems like a beaten kid. Like just something about it. It was a real dark. There was always a darkness there. It's now I spent so much less time there because there's just this foreboding, hellish reality that just I don't know what it is. But it's like everyone's on edge. It's a dissolving of an illusion. It's dissolving of an illusion. The illusion is a sophisticated functional society. That's also a place that think about this.

2:10:21Los Angeles was built on the manufacturing reality. Yes, for a long time. Yes. And the ability to do that now has been greatly diminished. And the magic of the movies and this idea that you can fully suspend disbelief and all these things. I think a lot of that has had a real impact on that place because the inability, you know, they used to be able to make a movie that would convince you about an event. And they would drive home a narrative through a movie. They've done this a million times. Now by the time they do that, there's 10 documentaries on YouTube. There's been a million podcasts. So they've lost control.

2:11:07And Hollywood was really this myth -making institution that and it was all built on very, and listen, they made a lot of great stuff. A lot of movies we all love. A lot of it was built on the exploitation of women, of children, all these horrible things that have now been unearthed. Every documentary is crazy to watch. Now it's like, remember that 90s show you watching? You go, Jesus, no. And those kids were kept in a cage and fed dogs. You're like, God damn it. Nothing you enjoy. Like the Nickelodeon stuff. It's crazy. It's bananas. You know, and it makes sense. It makes sense. Because you have vulnerable people without a lot.

2:11:43There's nobody who cares about people in that town. And the only people that have credibility in that town are people that have made other people a lot of money. And those are the people that were able to get away with it and do whatever the hell they wanted. So that town's just in deep trouble. Well, it's just dark. It's dark. It's dark, er, now. Also, and one of the things that happened during COVID was when you shut down production for a year and a half and then no one goes to the movies for a year and a half. But habit is broken. It habits broken. Habits broke. It's date night. It's not go to the movies.

2:12:16I was in Joker 2, which just came out. It's the worst film that it's ever been made. It's the worst film that's actually not so bad. It's the worst film ever made. Why? Well, you think it did it on purpose? No, it's a, I think what happened after the first Joker was there was a lot of like talk like, ooh, this was loved by in cells. This was loved by the wrong kinds of people and the sent the wrong kinds of male rage, nihilism, you know, all these think pieces. Right. Right. And then I think what if we went the other way and now they have walking Phoenix and Lady Gaga tap dancing to a point where it's insane.

2:12:52But is it possible that he didn't want to make a sequel? And then he said, I know Tarantino said that. I mean, it's a quarter. It's a quarter billion. They did that with. If that's true, it's the most immoral thing I've ever seen in my life or brilliant brilliant protest. I don't think it's brilliant protest. What'd it be fun though? I don't know. It's a waste everybody's time. Just make a good movie. You could have done it. You know, just get out the font. Stop dancing. What do you think? What would motivate them to make a movie that's that because they wanted because it's hubris number one. The idea that you could that people love it so much they're going to accept it in any version of it.

2:13:33Do you think you would like it if it wasn't connected to the original Joker? No, it has no plot. It has no plot. We would sit on state. We would sit there. Me and these other guys were addressing these fucking security outfits because we're working at the Arkham asylum. And I would turn to one of them and we'd hear this crap and I'd go, what the fuck is this? And they go, this is going to bomb, man. They go, I know this is the worst thing. We were talking about it lunch. We go, what is the plot? Is there a plot? I don't know. I think he falls in love with her in the prison. Is it worth going to see because it's bad?

2:14:14It's not even hate watchable. That's how terrible it is. But is it one of those things like showgirls? No. It's so bad you could watch it. No, because it's like you're sitting there and there's these people, you know, in the theater and they're all confused. And I'm watching their reactions and they're all like staring and everything and like it starts like all its raining and it's Arkham asylum and you're like, okay, cool. And then there's a moment where Joaquin Phoenix just goes, for once in my life, I have someone who needs me and they just, and he starts, he just becomes a fucking musical.

2:14:55But hold on, let me back this up. Don't you remember when Joaquin Phoenix went on Letterman and he had like this, he had some crazy fake personas. Like he did something where he pretended to lose his mind, a rapper or something. Right. What was he doing? I don't know. He was like, what did he do for a while, Jamie? Yeah, he did this. He played a good joke. He was going to pursue a music career. This was 2009. You've got a nice beard going and yeah, thank you. How is that the beard? It's a little bit more way. Well, as a comfortable, is it itchy? Is it, are you pleased with it? I'm okay with it, but now you're making me feel weird about it.

2:15:40I'm sorry. That's a long interview, but that's okay, man. Letterman was a, he was a wizard and he was correct. He was so good. He's the best, in my opinion. Of course, guys. He's just so good at... It's a lovely film, really. Now, go back before that because that's what he's rapping it up. So, but Joaquin Phoenix was acting weird and so people decided, oh Joaquin Phoenix's lost his mind. They didn't like the interview and they kind of people went cool on him. And then he did like a documentary showing that he was like playing a character for a while. Right. Is that what he was doing? I think so.

2:16:12So, yeah. So it's just like an art piece he was doing. Yes. This could have been a $250 million practical joke. That's what I'm saying. Maybe it was. This is the same guy. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe it's a fun, quarter billion dollar practical joke. It's a bit. If you're Joaquin Phoenix, you're the fucking king of the hill, right? You're like one of the biggest movie stars in the country. You're the guy from Gladier. Sure. He can kind of trick Hollywood dummies. I think they thought that this would be received differently. I don't. I think they thought I think they're maybe in a little bit of a bubble.

2:16:46I think Joaquin Phoenix is alone in his house right now laughing that he pulled that off. I don't think he even knows he did it. He's a single guy that did this thing. I know. He's like, he's crazy. I think he's an actor. So I don't think he exists. I think it's just like what the new part is. He becomes that. Joaquin Phoenix tells Letterman, I hope Spoof didn't offend you. Actor apologizes to Leachahose for awkward interview that features in new film. I'm still here. So he was doing that as a part of the film. That's the idea. So the film is that he was acting like he was a crazy person. Yeah, it was like a documentary about him making music.

2:17:27All they had to do here. All they had to do was blow some shit up. Have him escape from prison. Have him do something. Get a couple of scenes in the courthouse or something. Look at this. It says throughout Phoenix was trailed by actor Casey Affleck, who is his brother -in -law, and a film crew. The result I'm still here was released this month as a ostensible documentary about the corrosive effects of celebrity and wealth on a now drug -addled actor in the profession since he was a child. So the idea is that they did a documentary on how fucked up he was. And so he went on Letterman to act fucked up.

2:18:06Right. But I think it was a goof. No, it was a goof. But he was a labored spoof. It was all in a lab - Okay, it was Affleck who confirmed what many suspected that it was all in a labored spoof last week telling New York Times that Phoenix had given a terrific performance as the performance of his career. So he just acted like he was drugged out in out of his fucking mind for a spoof. Yeah. Like this is the kind of guy that would trick those Hollywood dumbasses into making a musical sequel to the joke. I mean, if he did that then that's great. I don't know. I know that he was raised in a cult and he was a little kid and his name was Leif.

2:18:39So whatever he does, God bless him. He's a brilliant actor. He changed it from Leif to walking. Yeah, it's like he made it. You know, I mean the guy's brilliant, but the movie was just, I mean, God was it rough. It's crazy because the first one was so good. He was so believable. The first one was really great. And then the second one just went, and if you were a fan of the first one, the second one was like a kind of, I think, insane to a fan of the first one. Well, it wouldn't be the first time. Yeah. You know, he'll really give Godfather too was about like the Corleone family going legit. You know what I mean?

2:19:16Right, no more. Like, and apologizing for the mafia. Right. You're like, they were like, hey, I'm sorry we did all this shit. Yeah. We now have a bakery. It just, it went completely the other way. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I didn't see it, but I heard it sucked. Anything does, has anyone won? I get something. I got one minute before the first polls close. One minute. Oh, five. I mean, so I don't know. I think there's definitely got to be some. I'm waiting. I'm checking everywhere. There's definitely some. Someone to say like exit polls and all that stuff. There's got to be. That's what we're waiting for.

2:19:50I mean, there's only like three or four states that close then. North Carolina is early, right? The only discussions I can see is what's going on in Pennsylvania. What's going on? So what's going on there? I don't know. Trump said that there's some cheating going on. Well, certainly going to say that. If there is, then there is what he's talking about. Yeah. When he was in the park as I wish he could just rattle off. I'm open to it too. Just tell me what it is. Tell me what it is. I hear you. It's like there's so much evidence. So much evidence. We have so much evidence of cheating. But a lot of people close to him say the reason.

2:20:22Who's those people? How many and how many of those people are covering their ass? I don't know, but Mike Pence probably will see. That's what I'm talking about. Like that guy. Is he covering his ass? Yeah, he just endorsed Kamala Harris too. Yeah, they wanted to kill him. There was people that went to January, on January 6th. They were looking for him allegedly and supposedly. No, no, no, for sure. But I'm wondering like I'm open to the idea that there was fraud. But like a lot of top people like people that were in his orbit. They said don't talk about like he talks about it. Right. But okay, so let's take Pence out of the equation.

2:20:56Yeah. Cause he's probably salty. Well, for sure, but I'm saying like Pence didn't. If there was evidence, wouldn't he, like Pence have said, all right, let's not certify it. No. That is a crazy thing to do. Right. Okay. For the vice president stand up and say, I mean, you're said, that's essentially like you're, you're getting ready for a fucking major conflict. Gotcha. You know, I'm saying, don't you think? No, for sure. I just, we just need someone, that doesn't want that kind of heat. That's not for sure. We need someone outside of Trump to verify it. Yeah. Like who would that be that you would trust implicitly?

2:21:31Well, you would just need to see evidence. It would just be like, if I made a claim about anything, I'd have to provide evidence. But let's, let's imagine that you were working with someone like Trump and you're like a top guy. And you know, there's no election interference. You know that the election integrity was 100%. You know that he's not telling the truth. Yeah. How could you stay with him? How could you stay with him without laying it out to him? Like sir, can I just have an hour of your time? Well, I think a lot of explained to you what the problem with saying that it's rigged. Here's where you can say it's rigged.

2:22:02Okay. For sure. There was 100 % involvement in social media companies, suppressing information that would have changed the results. For sure. At least in some percentage in one way or the other. Yeah. And I'm, listen, I'm open to it being that there was fuckery in other ways. I just think that just like anything else, you can't take someone's word. Well, he says there's a bond. He just didn't have it on the chart. Yeah. But I would imagine that if there's something you've been talking about for three years. Like if you asked me, yeah, important stuff in my, like even stuff like, you asked me about like jujitsu.

2:22:37Right. I could tell you all these different things that have happened. Yeah. I could tell you why this is important and why that's not important. Yeah. And that's like a minor thing relatively to you lost the president of the United States. That's a major thing. And so if you knew that you had been cheated to the point where you're willing to talk openly about the fact that they cheated. They cheated me. This is how I know. I would want to be able to rattle off. Yes, he showed me. I would want to be able to say we found there was 25 ,000 inconsistent votes in this place. We know that there's manipulation of this thing or that thing.

2:23:12Yeah. Tell me. Yeah. You should have that ready to go. Ready to go. Ready to go. Because that's a, it's a thing that we don't want to think is true. But if we're going to put our fucking necks out there and agree with it or at least entertain it. You have to have those. You have to have those. God have it laid out. Bullet points. Yes. Bullet points. You know, but I think he's just so fucking busy. He's probably got other people doing that. And they're all telling them that it's stolen. And he just listens to them and doesn't, doesn't have that stuff like ready to go. Well, yeah, I mean, listen, Steve Baton brought up an interesting point the other night on Megan Kelly where he said they had lost by a certain amount of votes or Biden had gotten however many more votes in Obama, whatever.

2:23:58But also the Republicans picked up like a ton of house seats, which is there's something fishy about that where it's like all these people just voting Republican down and then Biden. So he there were there were things and again, I'm not and talking about the veracity of it. I'm just saying there were some suspicious suspicious things that he felt was fishy or tricky or whatever. Now, I don't know. Again, this has been a thing that's been over the heads of whereas you have people on the right that go it was stolen and don't know any of the evidence. Right. Then there are people on the left that go he's an election, he's an election denier, which they also did with the Rushing Gate stuff for years right said that he was installed and compromised or whatever.

2:24:39And then I think there's just got to be like you said there's just going to be more information about whatever happened. Right. Well, the idea of breaking into voting machines goes way back to the HBO documentary hacking democracy about George Bush. Remember that? About the die -bold machines. That's right. And the fear in this is back when I was a hardcore lefty, the fear was that the Republicans were going to be able to rig the vote with these machines. Because the people who made those machines were contributors to the Republican Party. Right. Now what's the other way? Now the right is constantly worried about dominion.

2:25:14Well, they will not lost it. Dominion will not lost it. Right. Against Fox News, correct? Against Fox. Because Fox was saying things that it didn't have evidence. How's the best way to do it? Is it paper ballots, voter ID? Right. You have to have an ID. Well, I would imagine first of all, of course, you should have to have an ID. The only reason why you wouldn't want someone to have an ID is because you want to cheat. You have to have an ID for everything. You got to get a fuck out of a membership at Costco. Why not? Let's do that. Because maybe you lose your ID that day, but maybe you can go in and say here's my finger.

2:25:46Why not? I mean, some biometric thing. Yeah. Biometric could be easy. It could be something you register for on your cell phone. They always have your face now. That's right. You could just show up. That's not hard to do in this day and age. But the idea that you wouldn't want anyone to have an ID, that means you want people voting that shouldn't be voting, and we know that that happens. Yeah. That's been proven that at least in certain circumstances, people are voting that shouldn't be voting. And the only reason why you would want that is because you want to cheat. So the only reason why you would want no ID is so that you could cheat.

2:26:15Yeah. So now I got to go how much do you cheat? So you're willing to cheat in that way. You're willing to cheat where you are. You're willing to block information that would have changed the bill. Oh, they've always been willing to do that. I think this is all they don't have to have ID. They've always been willing to do that. And then the right has been willing to do things to that compromising integrity of things for sure. 100%. And you just got to figure out how to do like an actual election that is fair. It's AI. And it's going to be president AI. Yeah. Well, I think we're going to give up government to artificial intelligence once it's vastly superior to us.

2:26:51That's an extent. Yeah. It does make sense. But I think it's on our path. What we're talking about before, about people becoming more frail and more like feeble and like the British people when you're talking about their teeth, you know what that's from? It's from your job. Next up all British people don't get mad at me. When people have small jaws like in your life, they all have scurvy. It's literally from eating mushy food. Because they have bones. They eat mushy peas and they have scurvy. Your bones aren't as thick anymore because they're not chewing meat. That's breaking things down with your teeth.

2:27:25You don't have to crack. So your jaw like over time becomes smaller and smaller. Yeah, there's actually a technique called muing. And this guy figured out this technique where you can change the shape of your jaw with exercises and tongue pressure. And that there's other guys that I have a thing that I use at home. It's like I wait left with my jaw. It sounds crazy. Yeah. But there's these weights. It's like a rubber ball and you put it to your teeth and you fucking mash down on your teeth. And it builds your jaw muscles and it makes your jaw more square. It literally works. You do jaw exercises.

2:28:00And that's the reason why these people for a long time eating mashed potatoes and fucking gruel. Like they're a poor shit. Right. But their jaw's all shrunk. Interesting. It's a good theory. It makes sense. Yeah. That's one of the reasons why people have to get their wisdom teeth removed. Our jaws are getting smaller. We're not breaking down tough meat anymore. So the shape of our face looks different. So eventually there's just going to be a bunch of AI government. We're going to sling down inside. Instead of these tiny jawed bitches in there. We're going to look at aliens. We're going to look at aliens.

2:28:31Those have tiny jaws. Big ass fucking head. So the next 10 years it's just going to be unreal. We're going to be those things. I think those things that we see the people keep seeing. Even if they're not real. We become that's us in the future. The grace. Yeah. We just become sexless genderless cyborgs. Right. Or maybe even completely artificial by that point. Maybe we realize that consciousness can actually be captured. And that we all share it. And there's no benefit whatsoever in being an individual. That it's just a cheat code that the primate used in order to think of itself as important enough to continue to enter.

2:29:08And that's what we're going to innovate to the point where it creates artificial intelligence. Now if she had run on that instead of the word joy, I would have voted for her. I think that's where we're going. I think that's what all this is. I would have been interested. Yeah. I think that's why male hormone levels are dropping through the floor, which is all a big part. Because it's a sedentary lifestyle. And also because of these estrogens and plastics and all these different things that are fucking with people's reproductive cycles. Do you think we've been here before? In what way? In this, do you think humanity has ever been in this spot before?

2:29:41I think humanity has been in a different but similar spot. Okay. I think that's what ancient Egypt was all about. There's no way that level of sophistication could be achieved unless those people were beyond what anybody is thinking about from people that lived 5 ,000, 6 ,000 years ago. There's just no way. There's literally no way. Because God figure into this at all? Wow. I don't know. If God's real, God's everything. If God's real, God's the universe. And there's like a powerful creative force that didn't just made earth and a bunch of stupid people that were in a garden and this bitch talked to the snake and read an apple.

2:30:19No, God made the whole thing. If there's a real God, you made the whole thing. And the whole thing is made by what? It's made by the universe. The universe makes itself. So the universe is probably God. So yeah, God plays into it. But I think there's a direction that primates go in. And it goes into like ever more weak and feeble but much more capable with tools. And it happens with some like bonobos. They're super peaceful. They just fuck each other. Somehow I know that there's chimpanzees that are murderous monsters. They just run around carrying each other apart, killing each other, tribal wars, killing monkeys.

2:30:59And then there's other ones that just fuck each other. And chill. Yeah, like what is that? Like there's just like that seems like they're a little bit more evolved. Right. And that's probably how humans were. And then humans eventually figured out tools and stuff. And we became what we are now. Well, we're going to keep going in that direction. So we're so much weaker than even a monkey. Like a monkey will tear your fucking head off. Like we're so feeble and we're going to get feebleer. It's going to be smarter. That's smarter. Wavesmarter. Yeah. We're going to be communicating completely with our minds.

2:31:31We'll probably never need sounds anymore. We'll probably never use devices. Everything will happen in your mind. What's the fun of all of that? What's the fun of being a chimp? Is that fun? You want to throw shit for the rest of your life? And eat bananas? Get the fuck out of here. I want to drive a Cadillac. I want to watch a fucking movie. Yeah, but I want to call people on my phone that are nowhere near me. Right. So what's the purpose in being a person? You're filled with anxiety. You're worried about who's going to win the election. You're trying to stay off drugs, but you want to cigarette.

2:32:02Right. What's the point? What's the point? That's stupidity. When you can be an enlightened being that flies through space with your mind. Ooh. Well, I never thought about it like that. If Lazar's telling the truth, Bob Lazar, the guy that supposedly back engineered these crafts, if that guy's telling the truth, he said there's no controls inside those devices. When they enter them with their mind. There's some connection between the entity and the device that's not an interface like we think of like a joystick and butt -to -the -earth. So they're just so evolved. It's a different thing. It's a different thing, but it's probably a different thing.

2:32:37It's probably what we become because we didn't always have clothes. Well, of course. Think about clothes and shoes and your silly sunglasses and all the stuff. Well, that's silly. They're beautiful. I'm silly because I don't have them. When I have them, I'll probably go to the big guy. I'll do it. But you're right. We're advanced. We're advanced. So we're so much different than chimps. It's a billy -good chance. The billy -good chance. The billy -good chance. It's our distant, distant, distant cousin. But if you look at them and you look at us like what is going on with them? Why do they have to have clothes?

2:33:02Like what is, they're wearing coats and jackets and shit that all have shoes. No one works, walks barefoot at all. Like we're softening ourselves up. We're like literally putting a nice shell over ourselves so we become a fucking squid. So usually you come back to this planet in 50 years. If it's still here. Robots. Robots. Robots. I think no more biological life in terms of humans. Wildlife will exist. All that stuff will exist. No more people. I think, really? Yeah, I think people are the cocoon. We make the electronic butterfly. It comes out of the cocoon. We don't know why we're making the cocoon, but we're making the cocoon.

2:33:41Everybody gets the newest phone. Everybody has the newest TV. Look, it's got Wi -Fi built in. So do you get a skin suit? You're not even going to be biological. I think we're going to give them. We're going to be able to. This is what I think they're going to do. I think they're going to integrate first. I think we're going to be cyborgs. It's going to start with things like. Can I get that now? You can get it. Can I sign up for it now? I don't want to wait. But you don't want to be an early adopter. Like, this girl's got those lip jobs. I'll take the chance. Many of them are in Miami. They're fine.

2:34:10These hoars. I will take the thing now. It just sounds fun. It sounds good. I want to be a vehicle without communicating with my mind. So there was a guy who branched off. He was one of the original guys with neural ink. He branched off the form of his own company. And they just created an implant that allows blind people to see. So you can find that, Jamie. I think it is like you wear goggles. I think it's like there's a whole thing. I don't think it's as simple as they put it in your head. But again, cell phone used to be a suit case. Do you carry it around? Yeah. And you had to open the suitcase to get your phone out.

2:34:46And pull the antenna out. Now it's this little tiny thing that you can be on for 24 hours in a row. Watch movies, call these photos. But this is eventually going to be inside of us. Yeah, and then that's a good point. Because then you go the next step. We had the first neural ink patient on. Interesting. And he controls a cursor with his mind. And he said when he plays games, it's like a cheat. Because he's got like an aim bot. So everywhere he sees is where the cursor goes. He doesn't have to go hand to eye. Eye goes to cursor instantaneously. So he's like, I don't miss. I just, like you look at where you want something to go.

2:35:24And it just goes there. That's what he's controlling it with his mind. So there's going to be over the next however many years. Different generations. You know, it's just like iPhones. Yes, for sure. Science Corporation. Imagine that's your name. Science Corporation. How, what, how uncreative? Is this the Chinese front? Science Corporation. That sounds like a fake science corporation. A biotech startup launched by a neural ink co -founder claims it has achieved a breakthrough in brain computer interface technology that can help patients with severe vision loss in preliminary clinical trials, legally blind patients who lost their central vision, received the company's retina implants, which restored their eyesight, and even allowed them to read books and recognize faces.

2:36:08The startup announced last week. Whoa. To my surprise. The first time that the restoration of the ability to fluently read has ever been definitively shown in blind patients. CEO Max Hodak, Hodak, who is a president of neural ink before founding science corp said in a statement. Holy shit. What does it look like, Jamie? For the show, what it looks like? I want to see what it looks like. So it's crazy. Science Corporation. Good luck finding that on Google. What are you going to find? Oh, it's in the first one. Prima. All right. What is a little bug? So this is the implants? Where is it? So where does it go?

2:36:53Oh, look. They're showing you. So they stick it back there or the back of your fucking eyeball. Look how tiny it is. Holy shit, man. I love how, by the way, it's just Americans are like, look, you'll be able to see the oven. So he has to wear glasses. And the glasses work with that implant. And now he can see things. This is crazy. It's said for people who lost their vision, right? You have to already have some sort of, they couldn't like... You got to have some vision. Yeah, you have to know a basis of... Well, I don't know that. What things look like. It's a piece of paper. How could you recognize someone's face if you never saw it before?

2:37:32Well, you wouldn't until you saw them. And then from then on, you'd be able to recognize their face. These political texts are so crazy they're still coming in. What are you getting? I just was telling you where to go. This woman had my phone named Janina. And I guess she was a big democratic donor. Or not, you know, she... Because they're like, Janina, we're panicked. Can you please answer? Have you voted? I'm like, um... We're panicked. Right. I go, I don't know what to do. Janina. Are you going with... Are you fucking with her? No, because it's just a bot. This is what we're talking about. It's all they have.

2:38:05It's just bots going like, please vote. Oh, panicked. Yes or no. Are you a Republican? 75 ,000 votes counted so far. Only? Who won? Who won out of 75 ,000? I mean, I don't even know where they're from. It's 49 ,000 for Trump. 24 ,000 for Harris. So even. Now... What is your suspicion? What's going to happen? What's your suspicion? I thought it was, you know, I think it will be him. But I also thought that it's very close. And I think with Ro, that was the one X factor. 100%. That was the only X factor I had thought about. I think without that... Not just Ro, but that thing that I brought up with JD Vance was some people who used to be.

2:38:49And apparently there might have been a case in Texas, Jamie. I know you're Googling, but... Yeah. Where we were talking about women in a place where it's restrictive. Like, Texas has a six -week law. Which is crazy because you don't even know your pregnant in six weeks. You barely missed your period, right? It's crazy. Especially if your period's like not regular. And then if you go to another state where abortion is legal and they find out they can prosecute you. Right. So that's the type of stuff I think that could... She could win on that. Right. Because that is crazy. What's that? It's not just crazy.

2:39:20It's gross. It's gross. Here's why it's gross. Not just because you shouldn't be able to tell people where the fuck to go and where they can go and do things that it's illegal. It's illegal, medical procedure. But imagine if you're a woman who gets pregnant and you have a miscarriage and you go and visit your mom who lives in Oklahoma where abortion's legal. And then you get questioned as to whether or not you had an illegal abortion. You get... That's a... You imagine... No, it's crazy. So that's your kid and your fucking heart broken. That's the one thing why I could see a groundswell of women coming up for her and she could win.

2:39:58Yeah, because that's... Yeah, that's... The idea of that is attached to these apps. Right, so there's apps that women can use that track their ovulation. Yeah, yeah. Right, so they track their menstrual cycles through these apps. And if they get the data from these apps and the apps show that you lost your period or you didn't have your menstrual cycle and then you went to Oklahoma. It doesn't mean anything, but you... Are we gonna let people investigate people's bodies? No, it's crazy. It's crazy. It's insane. It's crazy. That's the worst direction it could have. Right. Because they made one headway, row versus way they got rid of it.

2:40:35So now it's up to the states. Well, that makes it sketchy. And now if the states are gonna prosecute people for traveling to other states, well then now you're saying the state isn't controlled of your body? No, that's crazy. Your ability to go somewhere in America. What did J .P. say to that? What did J .P. say to that? He said he wasn't aware of that and we wouldn't want to do that. Right. But I think that this is a thing that was brought up. See if you can find that in Texas. So the case I found in Texas, I don't think I had to do with out of state abortion. I might be wrong. Oh, it had to do with in state abortion.

2:41:06You know, Europe handles this all kind of well. It's one of the things they do. They just have like whatever their rule is and everyone's okay with it. And it's just not a big fight. Well, the thing is they have a restriction as well. They do. People are talking about France. I'm gonna go to Europe where a woman's right to choose what you think. But they have restrictions. No, but it makes sense. It's like there's a certain time where you can't do it anymore. Yeah, it's like it's a viable outside the woman. It's not billbirds bit. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I think a woman should have her right to choose.

2:41:31And I think you're killing a baby. Like brought those things. Or true. Yeah, it's like I it's just these issues. They're they're they're the problems. Some of these issues that can be solved. And like what a federalman said that thing about immigration and he goes, yeah, nobody wants to solve it. Because it's good for everybody. There is something to me that's about all of these issues that seem weirdly like people are against any type of rat. And then there's national common ground. I think you're right. So there's definitely some truth to that. I think some people do want things solved. Most people don't want late term.

2:41:58These things are these political beach balls that get tossed around a concert. Yeah. And one of the ones that people were terrified of if they got rid of Roe v. Wade, the next one was gay marriage. Yeah. Because they were like, no, a marriage between a man and a woman. That was what people were worried that all this stuff is coming out of religion. Well, there's a lot of it's gonna go to states rights. So I think where you live will determine a lot of your freedom, freedom. Yeah. I think they've said they don't care about gay marriage, but I imagine that would come up. And I imagine that. Instagram is not going to give up half of this stuff.

2:42:36Right. Yeah. Believe me, game. I imagine itself is minerals. Yeah. Good for him. I'm more with him on that in the mineral front. But no, I think that, of course, these things will probably go to popular votes. And it's because people are uncomfortable with the courts and telling them that they have to believe a certain way or think a certain thing. And that's the whole thing. It's like, you can vote with your wallet. You can vote with your feet. You can leave a state. Obviously, I am for a woman's right to choose. I am not an elected official in Missouri. I have no power there. I do not live there.

2:43:24I have no influence set all over a woman's body. Missouri positively or negatively. It's like, there are things. This is this crazy big country where, yes, I would agree that a lot of things. But I also, I didn't agree with a lot of things that they've done. Wouldn't you? If you wanted to, this is an interesting way. We want to play 4D chess. If you wanted to get rid of the Republicans. And you're a rhino. You're like a sneaky fake Republican. Wouldn't you push to get rid of Roe v. way? Because one of the things that Roe v. way is going to do. Well, if it hasn't a foul, I don't know how much. Here's one thing that Roe v.

2:43:59way is going to do. Roe v. way is going to charge up a bunch of women who don't want men telling them what to do. So they're going to want to vote Democrat. And they're going to go out in large numbers. And if you do that at the same time, you're shipping all these immigrants into all these swing states. Right. And then you have those folks join the Democratic Party too. So they're all voting Democrat too. Now you have a reason why you should want to take over this red area and turn it blue. Because these fucking men are trying to tell these women what the Kenny can't do. It's like one more layer on the cake that you're allowed.

2:44:32Yeah, for sure. Like the percentage support. You'll get more percentage support. It's like a good idea if you were like a creepy puppet master that was controlling the strings of civil unrest in the country. But the Democrats had said, listen, we're not allowing any gender experimentation on kids until they're adults. And we are not and we're going to enforce the border law. And Biden had said, I'm serving one term and they had a primary. Trump probably wouldn't be back. He's back because they opened the fucking door. His main issue is immigration. They literally exacerbated it. 10 million legals came over the border.

2:45:10And then people are incredibly uncomfortable with their children being indoctrinated in schools with this crap. So I think he would have been back anyway. He might have been back. I don't think he would have won. I think they thought he ripped them off. They ripped them off. I don't think he would have won. I think the reality is they've given him on a silver platter his biggest issue, which is that people want a country. Well, what do you think they would do to beat him? So if he's back, if Biden does say that, he steps down, who is running? As a Federman, obviously not mentally there to run, but a guy that has that, you need a working class guy who goes, we need a country.

2:45:53We need to have a distinction between citizen and non -citizen. Yeah. The social contract has to be. Otherwise, we have been a social contract with no, it's invalidated completely when you're bringing people in from all over the world. And the government is promising them things and they're getting votes and they're replacing Americans in certain manufacturing jobs or whatever. You don't have any sense of a country. Right. And you need a country and you need a working class person who's not condescending. And somebody who goes, look at the tavestok clinic in the UK that just closed. Why? Because experimental transgender therapies for children is a science that is not only not settled, but it is doing damage to people.

2:46:37This is why that clinic clinic clinics full of progressives that said we're shutting this down because we're making a lot of fucking mistakes that are irreversible in these or human beings. If you take away those issues, then the Republicans have to run on an economic platform that may or may not be that popular. Right. But the Democrats chose instead to elevate DEI to talk about the most important thing is in America's diversity, equity and inclusion. They chose to convince everyone all of the capital, the social capital that they spent convincing people how important it was to support the Ukraine with no plan and no end game and open ended and did.

2:47:23And did, you know, whatever Israel wants to do and maybe we'll have to go to Iran and like to get all of that and to explain that to people. They didn't even explain it that well, but they kept telling people how important it was they could have easily easily crafted a message that was that was rational and sane. All they had to be was because Trump is a lot. And I think there's a lot of people in America that would have said, hey man, we should just move on. It's chaos. It's all about the question. Who's the spokesperson? So if you don't have a primary, who would it be? Gavin Newsom's not trusted.

2:47:56No, it's got to be someone we barely know. My Harris is already the vice president. So you have to choose her. Well, because if you're going to go with all that DEI stuff, you can't go all with it. But here's the thing. If you're going to go all in with like this idea that we need a woman of color who's the president, which is one of the things that they were saying all along. He was going to do that. And I was like, why just have the best person? No, you have to have it. It's okay. You've already accepted that. You have her. She's the vice president. She's been there for four years. She knows how shit runs.

2:48:29Right. It's automatic. It's automatic unless you change course in your library. And someone competes against her. You ever primary and you got to find, I don't know. I don't know who that person is. I don't know every Democrat in the country. Right. But this is the kind of congressman governor senator. One person that stands out. Like any person that colors outside the lines like Tulsi Gabbard, they get to fucking ostracize. Well, we have, well, the lines have to change. That's the problem. The problem is the lines have to change. You cannot be beholden to extremists. And then on one side, you have the extremists.

2:49:01On the other side, you have these like corporate oligarchs that are demanding fealty to foreign wars, endless trade agreements that don't benefit workers, you know, hollowing out the middle class. And this was all stuff the Republicans were all about in the 80s. And the Democrats were about in the 90s, under NAFTA and stuff like that. So if you transform the Democratic Party again into a workers party with common sense reasonable considerations, and it's not based on religious fundamentalism, and it's not based on woke fundamentalism on the other side. How do you get people out of that that are in that?

2:49:38Where it's like part of their tribal identity. Like how do you get people to relinquish? You need a figure that rejects it. Like I think you need somebody to reject it publicly. When Bill Clinton had that sister soldier moment, right? When Bill Clinton opened the sister soldier moment where she had she was a rapper or something. She said something good American. You corrected her. I forget exactly what it was, but it's a moment where Bill Clinton was running for president. And he went against and you know, and established his Bonafide as a, you know, here we go. Yeah. What was this? I kind of remember this.

2:50:20Sure. Let's play the video.

2:50:25Let's stand up for what's always been best about the rainbow coalition, which is people coming together across racial lines. You talked about Mr. Fields from Louisiana that you had here last night. A great role model. We don't have a lot of time to do this. We don't have a lot of time. You had a rap singer here last night named sister soldier. I defend her right to express herself through music. But her comments before and after Los Angeles were filled with the kind of hatred that you do not honor today and tonight. Just listen to this. What she said. She told the Washington Post about a month ago and I quote, if black people kill black people every day, why not have a week and kill white people?

2:51:18So you're a gang member and you normally kill somebody? Why not kill a white person? Last year she said, you can't call me or any black person anywhere in the world of racist. We don't have the power to do to white people. What white people have done to us. And even if we did, we don't have that low down dirty nature. If there are any good white people, I haven't met them. Where are they right here in this room? That's where they are. I know she is a young person but she has a big influence on a lot of people. And when people say that, if you took the words white and black and you reversed them, you might think David Duke was giving that speech.

2:51:58Let me tell you, we all make mistakes and sometimes we're not as sensitive as we ought to be. And we have an obligation all of us to call attention to prejudice wherever we see it. A few months ago, I made a mistake. I joined a friend of mine and I played golf at a country club that didn't have any African American members. I was criticized for doing it. You know what? I was rightly criticized for doing it. I made a mistake and I said I would never do that again. And I think all of us have got to be sensitive to that. We can't get anywhere in this country pointing the finger at one another across racial lines.

2:52:37If we do that, we're dead and they will beat us. Even in Reverend Jackson's new math of this election, it's hard to get to a 34 % solution or a 40 % solution if the American people can be divided by race. If he ran on that today, he beats everybody. This is what I mean. In a landslide. That's what I mean. That's what a Democrat used to be. That's what I mean. Oh, good was that guy, by the way. That was the best speaker. That's and the best person. But what I mean is that had Kamala Harris repudiated. Yeah. A lot of what happened in the madness of 2020, 2021, all that stuff. And said America is not a white supremacist country that is only set up to the West.

2:53:29To terrorize people of color and minorities. And that, you know, yes, we've had a past that's been terrible, but we've made tons of progress. And people should be rewarded in this country on the basis of their hard work, their ability, their willingness to take risk. And we cannot have a society that is arranged by people's tribal identity. If she'd come out and gave some more eloquent version of that speech, it would have been her sister soldier moment. And she could have said this, my party went in the wrong direction. And by the way, it would have been very compelling to a lot of people. Yeah, but she would have to formulate that or someone would have to help her.

2:54:20Someone would have to follow. So what I'm saying is you should run for president. You should become a Democrat and run on that. Maybe I am. Well, you probably couldn't become a Democrat. They probably never let you in, but I bet you they let you into the Republican. Not only will they never let me in, depending on the next eight hours, I'm going to be in jail. There's going to be. No, but I think that was the thing. I think Trump ran against a Republican party in 2016. Yeah, he ran against the bushes. He ran against foreign war. He ran against big business. He ran against every single Republican donor base.

2:54:54Every plutocratic concern. Trump ran against it. He ran against a chamber of commerce. He ran against all the people, the coke people, all the people who were open borders. He ran against all of those people. And you know, he ran against major, you know, major power factions within that party. And he steamrolled them. And Kamala Harris has refused to do that. She didn't repudiate Biden. Wow, could she though, because he's still president. She's still vice president. She would have to have to throw him right under the bus and say, but she would almost need a fresh start like to get out of this cycle and then come back again in 2018.

2:55:28He's an old fool. That's what I would have said. Somebody asked me about him. I would have said, he's an old fool. But then you'd have to say, well, what is Biden? Oh, he sharpens the tack. No, I don't believe you. Here's a deal. The vice president, we all know, kind of doesn't do anything. She should just say that. She should go, listen, vice president, do anything. Maybe she should say that. She should say that she should go, let's be very honest. Legislation originates in the House of Representatives. The president has an agenda. I'm sitting around. He's an idiot. We let way too many immigrants in.

2:55:54The trainee stuff's gone nuts. And we got to put some people in jail. If they break into a car, they steal your phone. Yeah. She should, if she said, if a Venezuelan steals your phone, they go right to jail. I would be phone banking for her. She hasn't acknowledged his appeal. They never give him his due. They never give Trump his due. How she said in the debate, listen, Trump, you brought a lot of people in the politics. You've ignited their passions. I respect that. And you've brought up issues that are important that have been ignored for a long time by both parties. But I just think we need to move forward in this election.

2:56:29And you're very entertaining. It was a time George, George, Bill Clinton said to George H. W. Bush. She goes, in the middle of the debate, because listen, we all respect your military service. And we respect the sacrifice you made for the country. But I think we have to go on another direct. And it was just, and then you could see like HW, the older one, be like, oh, he was seething. Right. Because Clinton had kind of complimenting him. Complemented him and said, we like what you did, but we got to go in this new direction. That would be a brilliant move to use against Trump. It would have been a brilliant move to use against Trump, but you're right.

2:57:00She can't do it. She's owned by donors. She's owned by these people. And it's unfortunate because how'd she run against them? There might have been a contingent of people that said they would give her a shot. But I think Trump has been doing is a skill. She doesn't have it. No, it's a very particular type of skill. So she has one skill. And that was in that one speech where she said, come say it to my face. Remember that? You got to stop me saying about me. Say it to my face every year. Like, oh, my God, she's going to win. Like, that was, there was a moment, but that was a really well rehearsed thing that she did.

2:57:36And she had excellent timing in that. That's right. So then all the pressure comes out and then the bumbles and then the interviews and the stumbles and the inability to ask to answer certain questions and then all that stuff. So her ability to do that kind of thing is dependent upon a teleprompter and a well -rehearsed speech. She doesn't believe in anything outside of her own ambition. Bill Clinton did his whole state of the union speech once when the teleprompter went down. He did it all off the top of his fucking head. He was a different thing. He was a different thing. So a guy like him, you don't find those now because they're all pussy hounds and they're hiding right.

2:58:12You know what? That fucking job. Bill Clinton was around before the internet. It was great. Maybe that's what we need to go back to. Yeah, I mean, it's like, but because she, you know, it's that, again, it's that corporate hollow, like, speak that. No, inspires nobody really. Yeah, well, the thing that inspires people is she laughs a lot and, you know, you go girl, would have color, all that good stuff. She was already, you know, turned general already, you know, she already had vice president. She's in. Yeah. Big Paul Fie in that regard. But yeah. What that, what Bill Clinton just did, that's what we want.

2:58:49That's what we need. We need an actual leader that I go, well, that's an exceptional human being. The way he talks is better than I can talk. This isn't both of us. Yeah. But the way he do it in front of everybody, it's very, very. Because that moment, he was the left flank of his party. I'm sure didn't love that. And I'm sure that there were people that criticized him for that. But he basically came out and said, listen, I'm going to go out here. And I'm going to, you know, take a stance that's going to anger people. But I'm going to reach across the aisle. And say, you're right. This is not moving us in the right direction.

2:59:28There were moments that she could have done that she chose not to. Right. And I think that's, you know, again, we don't know anything. So I don't know if I'm doing a post mortem on her campaign or not. But what do you think if you had a bet right now? I think it's him now. I would, I think if he gets Michigan or Pennsylvania, it's over. And I think he's getting one of them. I don't think she gets both of them. But I could be totally wrong. What do you think we do? What do you mean? Jamie, make up the results. Because there's been all these turning points. There's been all these ups and downs and, yes, you know, stumbles and recoveries and, you know, different interviews.

3:00:05Yeah. I'm just deaf. Fuckin' don't know. There was a time I thought it was definitely her. And then there was a time that I thought it was definitely him. And then there was a time I thought it was definitely her. And now I think it's him again. God, I wish I got a chance to interview her. You know? That one would be interesting. What if she changed my mind? What if she, like, in an actual conversation, it's cool. She could just be herself. Well, here's the thing. She would have had to do what Clinton did. And she can't do it because they are being held hostage by an ideology that is crippling to thoughts.

3:00:39Right. But so wouldn't you want to, so a person like that really, I'd want to talk to them about stuff outside of being president. You know, because I think that's when you can find out a lot of shit about people. Yeah, I think the wall thing was a mistake. Oh, yeah. She even said that she chose him when she was sleep deprived. Of course. He's a buffoon. By the way, it's a hilarious thing to say. Yeah, of course. You can't kick him out either, right? No. You can't say, I changed my mind, you're fired. You should have I would draw a Shapiro of Pennsylvania. It would have been, but it would, Republicans would have been panicked.

3:01:15But do you think that the free Palestine people would have got upset because Josh Shapiro was Jewish? Yeah, but at the end of the day, he would have won, he would have won more Jews back. He's a better debater. Right. And I think he would have been instrumental in PA and I think PA is the ball game. Right. So I think yes, people would not have been happy with his. But by the way, Walls is saying the same stuff. So Shapiro is going, Israel's got to write to defend itself and we, and it's our big friend and whatever. Walls is saying the same thing as Shapiro would have said except he's a goofy guy who should be like a state fair eating hot dogs.

3:01:50He shouldn't be the vice president. Right. So if you're going to have that party line because it's the party line, no matter what you ask them, that's just their party line. They go, Israel has a right to defend. And it's funny if that's going to be the party line. Have a competent, shrewd operator say it and not this buffoon. Not only that, who should be eye fishing, who's been caught lying multiple times. He's a pathological liar. And he lies about stuff that's not important. That's right. That no one cares about. Like you don't have to lie about that. Yeah. You don't have to. You're lying because your, your version of the truth is not like what you're giving people is not the truth.

3:02:27You're changing the truth and always to make you look better. That's right. Your head coach instead of an assistant coach, your military rank is a lot better than it is. You pretend kind of that you served in war. Yeah. It's a, it's a, it's a total, you know, it's patronizing to the American people to just put this guy out there and say he's just like you. And he's one of those radical people. I mean, it's just not a mainstream guy. It appears much more of a mainstream guy who just happened to be Jewish. Right. And this guy who comes from Minnesota is a very far left radical guy who again, he's not Karl Marx, but he's nowhere near the mainstream of American politics.

3:03:19And they pick him out and they go, but he talk. He's folks. He's got a charm. He's a fun guy. And but he happens to be a liar and full of shit. And you know, his wife, when the BLM riots were happening, said we just rolled down the, you just open the windows and smell the burning tires and really took in the moment. That's a quote from his psychotic wife. So, his psychopaths, his psychopaths, these people. It's joking. And we smell the burning tires and we just took in the moment. That's a quote from Gwen Walls. Good lord. So at the end of the day, it's like they're not representative of the American people just because you might bump into them in a state fair.

3:03:57They just broke those two. They got, they don't have a dollar. So that was exciting. They're like, oh, we got this guy who's broke and he was like a coach and he has no money. But he turns out he's a liar and he's to, you know, people don't, you know, people don't. When riots are going on, people are not taking in the moment and sniffing the burnt tires. This is, you know, why was this psychopath? Let me hear this. This is a psychopath. I'd say those first days, you know, when there were riots, I could smell the burning tires.

3:04:32And that was, that was a very real thing and I kept the windows open for as long as I could because I felt like that was such a touchstone of what was, what was happening. She's ill. She's mentally ill. I kept the windows open. And I kept the windows open. I kept the windows open. I was like, what's burning tires smoke in my house. In my house. So that you can. Yeah. Can we, what? It's a psychopath and they Democrats bring her out. They go, she their teacher is in there broke. They're like you. And then you can't know about that. Anybody talk off script. That's right. If they're gonna be smart about this in the future, you gotta put everybody on a script.

3:05:09Unless you find yourself another Bill Clinton, put everybody on a front desk. God, he was good. I mean, listen, pedophile perhaps, Epstein friend perhaps, human trafficker perhaps, but God did he talk? It's such good talk. God did he talk? And then I think it goes back to what we're talking about, about like secret societies. Like there's always been these people that were in the White House or wherever these fucking places. These people fucking, they go crazy behind closed doors. And you're just assuming that they're the person they portray themselves on television. This button down person with a suit and tie.

3:05:42He's talking to you about the future. Right. And that is not what's happening. That's not what's happening. They're human beings. They have vices. They're like wild shit, I bet. They like power for sure. Otherwise, it wouldn't be president. They like power and they probably are into some kinky shit that they know they're not supposed to be doing because it's fun for sure. That's probably what's fun about it for you to present. You get in your dick, suck it, just it's crazy in the oval office. It's crazy. Think about that. Yeah, that's a good point. It's so much fun. That's probably why Kennedy did it.

3:06:10They were out of control. And then all of a sudden they camp anymore. Right. So it's like what? Huh? Yeah. It's like when they said Catholic priests couldn't get married anymore. Like what? Yeah. Like Catholic priests. They used to fuck. They used to be rock stars, but they were fucking too many people. Yeah, but then you got to have to be a band marriage in the Catholic church. Nothing bad happened. Definitely. I got nothing bad happen. Well, you think it's, you think it's him for sure? I do not know. I do not know. Jamie, who won? You know who had a really good post about this? Max Lugavir. He had a really good post because I'm not voting for Trump.

3:06:44Some voting against all these things. He just listed like a very clear and concise list of all the different things that are fucked up about this ideology that's being pushed today. For sure. The fucking censorship of it all is the thing that's the most spooky. Because it's the only thing that's going to keep us from working our way out of this together. That in the war. Yeah, those two. That in the ratcheting of tensions all over the globe. Yeah. Is a problem. Yeah. Well, he's the one who's saying he's going to try to stop all this shit. Let's hope. And if that's a reason to vote for someone, that should be like the biggest reason to vote for someone.

3:07:24Like get someone who wants to stop people killing people. Number one, get us out of these fucking international conflicts. Number two, right? Make it so that we have our own oil. And we have power here. We don't have to import foreign oil and prop up dictators. That'll be good. All that would, all that sounds good. Right. You know, it's like I don't hear the things that people keep saying he's saying. Like if this will be the last time you get to vote, they're going to put you in camps. They're going to separate the way to run against him was what I said. It's not saying he's Hitler. It's saying here's where he's right.

3:07:58And here's where we can do it better. Yes. That's the way to running us. That's how you're going to win, too. And they chose not. I'm going to back you. I'll get Peter Till. Well, you better think. I'm coming to you for money. See you better. I'm better. We're going to get you fitted with a nice suit. Thank you. I think you're more of a like a collar open guy though. Collar open man of the people. Collar open and just kind of like. Girl, you can't lose. Yeah. Gay Republican. You get so many people to jump over to the other side. I would go. I would should be the governor of California. For sure.

3:08:27You could win. It's an actual good point. You could actually win that. A great point. No one likes that news. I'm fellow. They don't trust him anymore. I caught with his fucking mask off at the French laundry. I will. I will either save the state or destroy it in five days. Oh, you'll fix it. It's it, but it's either or and and I think either one is fine. You get to be a national hero. Yeah. Why don't you be screaming for you to be president? That's what's going to happen. Well, let's pray. You'd be the first Republican president since Ornie makes sense. That's right. You're in. Yeah. Or first Republican governor rather.

3:08:56Yeah. In California. So that's a good plan because I could go from there and then right to the White House. And you are socially liberal. So the liberals won't feel bad voting for you. Right. To an extent, I'm socially liberal. To a pretty fucking wide extent. Yeah. To a wide extent. Yeah. I do believe women should ask to leave the house. Like I do, I do have to. That's where I have that Islam thing. I do believe that permission is important. Permissions important. The fucking sharia law thing is the craziest. Well, let's hope. Let's hope everybody's peaceful and happy. Yeah. Let's hope it's not all handmaids to you on the future.

3:09:31Yeah. Um, thanks for being here, man. Thank you always. Thank you. You had some brilliant rants tonight. Yeah, it was always. Um, I appreciate it. Where are you at? Where can people come see you? Tim Dylan show on YouTube, TimDillonComedy .com and the mothership sold out, but I'll be there next week. Oh, you're there next week. We might be traveling around. Yeah. I mean, there's a few, you know, we just did a tour and we're kind of at the end of it, but we got some dates in Canada. We're kind of at the end of the tour. You coming in hubs tonight? Are you there? Yeah, yeah. I'll probably stop in.

3:09:58I'm doing Ron White show. OK, cool. All right. Thanks. Bye, everybody.

3:10:09Thank you.