#2226 - Theo Von

24:42This is going to happen, watch. And makes a dope track with a cop. Right. And the... And you could make a dope need of so much great visuals. Right. And the proceeds go towards supporting the police department. Yeah, like the cop could like be saying shit from behind the wheel. And you can sample that. Yeah. Sample that in turn into songs. We got him. In pursuit. Different codes. Different codes. 51 .50. Isn't that when someone's crazy? Oh yeah. That's crazy right there. That's 50. I think 44. Is this cop rap? What is this? Grammy -nominated rappers, Sacramento Police Officer, records new deployment recruitment video.

25:20Pull him up, man. Right. Um... No. No. Yeah, I mean, I looked, I just figured they could have already been one. What's that 51 .50? What is it to be a Grammy -nominated? Grammy -nominated doesn't impress me. Like Grammy -winning, that impress me. Grammy -nominated. Did my Grammy -nominated you? My Grammy -nominated anybody. She liked traveling wheelbarris. You didn't? She... I mean, I didn't. I mean, if my grandfather showed up and said, hey, they're good, I respect that. I had a little bit more, but that's just me, you know. Laney Wilson, I love. She's great. Red Clay Stray, Steven Wilson Jr.

25:55Red Clay Stray is a great. They're good, huh? Yeah. There's good music out now. It's a good time for music because like, you could find things so easily, you know. You don't have to wait for the radio. You just find stuff. People send you stuff. Like, in the green room all the time, someone will play something, like, what is this? You know, shazam it, like, oh, shit. It's nice. I mean, that shazam thing, that feature is so huge. Yeah. You know what, Google Pixel phones? There's an option to just have it on all the time. So anytime a song is playing, you can look down on your phone or tell you what song is playing.

26:27I didn't know it. They still do that? I think that's still a feature. I think it's only on the Google Pixel.

26:35I feel all over the place today, Joe. You ever feel like that? Oh, yeah. Like, you open your life. I haven't been asleep well. Two days in a row, I didn't sleep. The night of the election, I could not sleep. I got home. I was wired. And I jerk off or nothing. No, just sat in front of the TV. I was watching professional pool sitting in front of the TV. I called Dave Smith. Me and Dave Smith talked on the phone at like 3 .30 in the morning. And then I finally went to bed and my wife woke up. She was like, what happened? Who won? I was like, Trump won in a landslide. You're like the spurs. Then she was up.

27:08And like, it was a landslide. Like, it was a crazy landslide. It was the red wave that everybody thought was going to happen in 2022. Hey, Jamie, I'm here and more and more about what we talked about yesterday, about the amount of people that voted for Biden in 2020, versus the amount of people that voted for anybody in 2016 and for anybody in 2024. That they're still saying it was a giant jump. That's what I see too. A lot of people think it's bullshit. It could be. A lot of people that are getting super suspicious about the 2020 numbers. Because Biden got more votes than anybody by like 20 million.

27:48It's really crazy if you look at the chart. Well, did, yeah, did they say that the most people they'd ever seen at voting stations were this year? Yeah. That's what I don't know what the visual report is for this year. But then I get this is the most consequence of the election I think I've ever felt. For sure. For sure. The way people felt about it too, the people on the left thought they were convinced that Hitler was coming. They're convinced that some right wing authoritarians going to come down and take away all your rights. And well, that's a me that's a that's the media does that 100%. But 100%.

28:21Not what he was saying. Not what he did for four years in office. It's all the media. And we're all victim of it a little bit. Because you won't defend him or support him. If you hear all these things about him because then you're you got to defend the fact that no, he didn't really do that. He's not really a felon. There were only misdemeanors. Texas voter turned out falls in 2024 election despite record registration numbers. It does just Texas right. 61 % cast ballots near 6 % drop from the 2020 presidential race. But the difference in the numbers nationwide is what I'm interested in. Because the nationwide numbers were pretty consistent like through the entire like if you look at 2012 it's consistent with 2016 which is also consistent with 2024.

29:15The anomaly is 2020. In 2020 everything goes way up way up. Maybe because people were sitting home and so bored and they said they said much to do you think? Could be. Could be because it was during COVID. Could be they there. A lot of people weren't working. So they did have the opportunity to vote. The voting should be a national holiday. I agree. I don't understand. It's crazy that you give some people a complication. Imagine if you have a shit head boss. I got to vote. Why did you vote early? I was working for you piece of shit. Yeah. Let me go. Let me go vote. Yeah. I mean they give Christopher Columbus as a holiday dude.

29:51The lieutenant Dan of the 1400s. That dude gets a fucking holiday. Okay. Yeah. Why don't you go read what that guy did? Let's get rid of Christopher Columbus. They trained to ingeginous people's day. Like and the indigenous people like things after you wiped out 90 % of us. Thanks for giving us a day. How about we keep that day? That's fine. But how about we have an election. National election holiday. We could do it one more holiday. Celebrate it. It's a great day. People can rejoice. And then I can't. Yep. It would take a lot of stress off people too. It's like today's also a day of celebration.

30:23It's not this day that I have to sneak away from work and be sneaky or whatever. You should have a paid car. It should have be a paid holiday. You should expect to have to pay your employees on the day the election comes because everybody should be able to go vote. That's what it should be. We should make sure we talk to Trump about it. Making a nationally mandated holiday. I don't have his number. I don't know. I mean, there's a guy in his department have his number. We could hook it up. I know some people. Yeah, dude. It was just what a, I mean, just like what a crazy week. Yeah. Very crazy.

30:58Well, you were one of the first guys to have them on the podcast. Did you have any hesitancy or having them on at all?

31:07My brother actually, my brother's, my brother's a lot smarter than me. And he said, Hey, man, I just want you to think that there could be some reflection from people if you have him on, right? Like you could, people, some people could be upset about it. Right. You know, and I thought about that a little bit. And I was like, well, I don't really, like I like, I don't know, you know, like I have political thoughts and beliefs and stuff like that. And it's like it's hard to find a group that really embodies them. And if anything right now for me, it seems like I don't even feel like these new parties are the same as the old parties.

31:44It doesn't see like this isn't Democrats and Republic. There's something else trans morphing right now. Yeah, yeah. And so I thought like this episode is brought to you by Life Lock. Tax season is already stressful. You shouldn't have to worry about identity theft on top of everything else. And trust me, it's a big worry. Especially since during tax season, your sensitive info does a lot of traveling to places you can't control. It goes through payroll, your accountant, or your tax consultant, and countless other data centers on its way to the IRS. Any of them can expose you to identity theft because they all have the info on your W2.

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35:00I just, I heard that or something and I looked at him and it was like, okay, he lost his brother, his brother died of addiction. So I was like, well, that's interesting to me, you know? And I wish that people, I wonder if there's more to Donald Trump, like is there more of a way to talk with him about something that means, you know, a look, try to get an emotional well, like more of an emotional well to him that's, than it seems like that's in the public. Well, there was a thing that was going on for a while where you were platforming people. This was the idea. Like if you had on a guy like Trump, you were platforming this bad person.

35:35This was, this was this thing. Yeah, I didn't think about that at all. But it's a, it's, it's an authoritarian way to regulate conversations that let you know more about people. And it's stupid because people don't want to have a nuanced perspective on anybody. Look, I'm, this is one of the reasons why I wanted to talk to Kamala Harris. I'm like, I bet there's a person in there. I bet I can get to that person. Yeah. I wanted to find that person. I don't want to hear all the speeches. I don't want to hear, I was raised middle class. I don't want to hear anyone said she's a roller skater. You know that?

36:03No, I would love to find out. Yeah. I would love to talk to her about all kinds of shit. I would, I literally said like because there was a few restrictions of things that didn't want to talk about. But I said, I don't give a fuck. I go get her in here. Like, whatever you want to talk about and they want to know if I edit. Like, there's not going to be any editing. There's no editing. Yeah. We're not going to edit. But yeah, that's the same thing. They asked us is there an edit, you know, I just wanted to talk. I just like, I feel like you give someone a couple of hours and you talk talking about anything.

36:34I'm going to see the pattern of the way you think. I'm going to see the way you process ideas. I'm going to see whether or not you're calculated or whether you're just free. Or are you comfortable with you or do you, are you projecting things? Like, she's got 80 different accents. How do you decide which one to pull out? Yeah. Yeah. She busts out different accents depending on who she's talking to. Yeah. They should have made a talk to a bunch of Chinese folks. I would have loved to heard that accent. I want to see what you know. I do that too though. I like to meet people where they're at. You know?

37:06Oh, if I see somebody else, you know, I'll be like, what's happening with my friend, you know? I like to meet people where they are, you know? Yeah. She did one with Latinos. We should talk with a Latino accent like this is wild. But she's a chameleon. But if you want to be a successful politician, that's probably a good trait. I agree. You know, it's like a comedian that's always on. They kind of get ennooring. But if you want to be a comedian, that's probably a good trait. You want to be a politician. You should probably be able to melt into your environment and sort of meld yourself. With whatever these people want you to be.

37:38Yeah. Yeah. I mean, maybe not. Maybe it's just like the, I always feel like the environment of debates, the environment of interviews on television, the environment of anything you're doing in front of an audience, it's so fake. It's such a weird way to talk that you don't get a sense of who the person is. So like when I got to see Trump on your podcast and you were talking about to a cocaine, then it makes like an owl. Oh, God. It was hilarious. It was hilarious. But it was like, you got a chance to see that guy as a person trying to figure out like, who is this psycho? I'm sitting there talking to him.

38:15I remember that shit. I fucking make a nest in my living room. Dude, that shit boy. You fucking, I'll scoot over the neighbors and steal some twine in my beak. Oh, there's nothing worse than being locked out of your place on cocaine, man. I can only imagine. But you talking to him like as a person is like almost more valuable than any other kind of speeches he does because when he's in front of everybody talking, we're going to make America amazing. Those are great speeches. But you don't like she had an amazing speech. When I was like she could win was when she had that one speech about Donald Trump, like scared to debate her.

38:53Everybody says all these things. But you know what? What I always heard, if you want to say something, say it to my face and the whole place went crazy and she was laughing. I didn't see that. Oh, so good. It was her best speech for sure. And it was right when they decided that she was going to run for president. Maybe that if it was a Biden, Biden stepped down and she had one banger of a speech. She looked young and energetic and like it really made you feel like she's going to get a key. She's hot. Yeah, she's got younger. She was a smoke show. She still are. She got that bang on her a bit. So that you know what I'm saying?

39:33You know what you were saying. That's why it's so crazy. Because a lot of brothers love her too. Everybody seems to love her. Look at the brothers like it. She got that bang on her. That's all I was saying. You know, yeah. That's so much saying. But like that one speech was almost enough for her to win. And if she just didn't talk other than speeches, but they would have done, they needed to do a better job with the speeches because every speech was the same. And the problem with that is we were talking about this like the internet. You get to see that speech over and over and on line like and then people make compilations of speech and listen to the same thing.

40:04But it's like if someone goes to see your act, you know, they don't understand like acts like to develop a bit. It takes months and months and months to really like put it together where it's like rock side. And you're going to do it the same way or slightly different every night. And if someone comes to see you and goes, the oh so full of shit man, he told us the other day that it was just the other day. Yeah. But meanwhile, he said it three weeks later, it wasn't just the other day. It was three fucking weeks ago. You're just you're repeating the same shit. Yeah. You got too many leap years white boy shit like that.

40:37Exactly. That's what they feel about like a presidential candidate that's telling the same speech over and over. Well, hey, you're not supposed to go see all those speeches. But yeah. You know, but the thing is not following the grateful dead here. Trump's like, but Trump has a lot though. Trump has a lot that are repetitive. He does, but not in the same order. It's like going to see a grateful dead show. It's like, it's all over the place. You know, he's when Trump gets out there, he just does tugging. Did you see he even accepted? He had this long winded speech about the rocket. That was a yielding.

41:11He like the rocket. I'm like, you just won the president's head. Yeah. Edit that down. You get that down. That could be two minutes. Beautiful. I was I was worried about that in the very beginning of the podcast before we got cooking. When he was talking about Lincoln's bedroom, I was like, Oh boy. Like where's this going? I went. I've been to Lincoln's bedroom. How was it? It was okay. I think you can bring it up actually. It's in Springfield, Illinois. Oh, it is. No, he was talking about the one that's in the White House. Oh, no, I've been to just his child before he got a leg. Go to his childhood home.

41:42Oh, wow. It's really interesting. He's to keep his notes in his hat. Oh, that was a good move. Pretty cool. A big ass hat's back there. That head wallet, baby head. That's a good move. It's like credit cards behind your phone. That kind of thing. Except if you lose your phone, you lose everything. But you ain't losing that big ass hat. That was fucking a little long, dude. It had crazy, man. You ever see how many dudes wore fancy hats back in the day? That shit just went away. Did. Imagine if you were a kid and you're growing up in a hat family. Your like, our family makes hats, bro. I'm born forever.

42:15I'm going to take over this business and then no hats. If you watch, there's a great outside boxing match in Reno, Nevada between Jack Johnson and I think it's Jim Jeffries. And I think this is... Jim Jeffries? Yes. Not that guy. Another one. Not the comedian. Not the comedian. Not talking about the murderer. No. Maybe. I don't think so. I think it's just a boxer. Who was it? James Jeffries. So see if Jack Johnson versus... Who killed the people with that? Who laid the record? There's a video of all these folks that are walking like to the event and every man has a fucking hat on, dude. Wow. They all have hats.

43:01Look, they all have fancy hats. Look at all these guys. They're taking off their hats, waving their hats. Men left the house with a fucking hat on. Look at this. Wow. Dude, they all have these fancy hats. What happened? They're all dressed up nice with fancy hats. First of all, good luck seeing anything outside the Republican National Convention of that many people in the streets dressed up in suits. That's it. The only time you're gonna see this. These are like regular men walking on the streets. Everybody had fancy hats on and a nice button up shirt and a suit jacket. That's Jim Jeffries right there.

43:35Oh, those guys are good, dude. James Jeffries. That's John L. Sullivan. No way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They got from an... That's the guy from a novel, dude. He was right there. He was a barren knuckle boxer back in the Dizzae. So, and he was still famous back then. Wow, look at him putting it all together. That's so cool. And that cool. So they built this outdoor stadium to watch Jack Johnson beat the fuck out of Jim Jeffries. Oh, that's how it goes. Jim Jeffries is trying to make it come back. He was a little bit older. Back then, Brown boxing would go until someone died. Yeah, they would have, I mean, what's the most rounds they had back then?

44:10They were crazy. It was like 80 rounds or something. Like, what's the longest old school boxing match ever, Jamie? I think they had some insane amount of rounds. I think good question. The greatest number of rounds was 276 in a four hour and 30 minute fight when Jack Jones beat Pat C. Toney and Cheshire in 1825. Holy fuck, dude. And we introduced in 1867 each round of a fight with last until someone was knocked down. Oh my God. Wow. Bro, bro, 276 rounds is so crazy. That's when you get all your CTE in an IV bag. Yeah, you have to. You have to sweat right there. You just get your CTE just hot pumped into your fucking brain.

45:09I'm just joking. 110. Oh my God. At New Orleans, that's where it was. In 18, well, he lived to 94. He lived to 1867. Oh, these are the, when they, oh, cause at 1893, it lasted 110 rounds. Oh my God. Seven hours and 19 minutes. It was declared a no contest, later changed to a draw. Dude, most people couldn't go that long without even looking at their phone, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Seven hours. I'm having a fan job. I'm a guy having to take a shit. You're in the middle of a 200 round fight. You have to take a shit. They should have a diaper round. We have to fight and shit at the same time. I would better affect your punching power if you just waddle around.

45:53Of course. Dude, I don't think it's a way you can shit and punch at the same time. It would be very hard. Very hard. Very hard. I'm mad. Cause yeah, think about it. Yeah. No. You need to tighten all that up. If you're going to throw a good punch, like your ass cheeks tighten, cause you've kind of used your legs as you thrust forward. You really can't shit and punch not effectively. You know, we crowd the code, bro. Yeah, we crowd the code. You're going to lose that round. So I guess they probably just pissed themselves. I know guys who've shit themselves in the UFC. Multiple guys. Yeah. I don't know.

46:27I believe Tim Sylvia shit himself in a fight once. Who else? Someone came out there. Michael Chiesa. Looked over at me once while I was doing commentary. And I think he got called. I mean, it was perhaps one of those situations where the fight before ended quicker. So he didn't get as much warm up times he wanted. Yeah. And then also he's running out there and he looked at me. He goes, dude, I'm about to shit my pants. I go, really he goes, yeah, I'm about to shit my pants. And he won. He went out there and won first round submission. Cause he had to. Cause he had to. Yeah. So is this the fight?

47:01Oh, is this another guy who shit his pants? A five fighters. A little poop their shorts. Yeah, it happens, dude. This guy shit himself a little bit. Dude, I would shit myself if I had to go in there. So that's crazy. Tim Sylvia definitely shit himself. Random and shit himself. It happens, man. Look, you're getting. Oh, I'm not dead. I yeah, liver pounded on. You're getting need in the guts. I'm gonna have to win that one. Oh, I got in a car accident once and it happened. You should shut yourself. I didn't want to. I didn't have a choice. It just happened. It wanted to. She shit her pants too. Justine Kitch.

47:31Congratulations. I bet dudes would pay a lot of money for that. That only fans. You sell them shitty drawers. And that's Mark Goddard right there. Call time out, brother. You're just stepping in. Oh, that's what it is. That's the poop. Oh, no. Imagine if you're like face down if someone's putting you in a rear naked choke and they didn't clean the mats that good and the person before shit all over the place. You get pink eye while you're getting your ass kicked. Oh. God, that makes me scared. Yeah, that's a scary job. That's the scariest job. You think? Yeah, I went to that fight with you. Or no, I went to that fight.

48:06Remember me and Joey Diaz went. Which one? In New York. Oh, it was, oh, I was thinking of your fighters. Well, I went and saw the James J. Braddock statue. Before it was in New Jersey. Before Dustin and that last fight that he had. No, the one before the last fight. Justin Gachi? That was in after that. It was in New Jersey. Okay. That was a Benoit Sandini. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he beat up Benoit Sandini knocked him out. Uh, Islam, Makachev. That was after that. He lost his line. That was in Jersey. Right. Which one was in Jersey? He didn't beat, he didn't beat Islam in Jersey.

48:47Right, right, right. So he fought Benoit Sandini, then he gets a title shot against Islam. Yeah, we went, I went with Joey. And I went to the James J. Braddock statue before. It was awesome, dude. His arms are monster. He's so good. Yeah, it was crazy. And Joey was like, what do we do? He was all out. So this is all love, dude. He's the fucking tremendous. He's one of a kind. And his book is great too if you haven't read his book. But he's sitting there. He'd been eating. He'd been eating mushroom. You know, and once he even started eating a little, you could see Aaron Rodger start to look over.

49:24You know, he was canceled. He was hilarious. He knows like, what if it happened, you know? That's hilarious. By the sixth quarter, whatever. I don't know how the fights go, but it's like, by the sixth quarter, he's just rubbing on his thighs, right? He's talking. He goes, who's winning dog? That's what he kept saying to me. He's kidding. Oh, I can't wait to see him. Joey used to shovel snow for James J. Braddock. Did he really? Yeah. Wow. That's crazy. One of my favorite things that I ever learned about him. That's crazy. Can you imagine that? That is crazy.

49:59What else is going on? What?

50:04I'm going to see him in a couple of weeks. He's coming out here. Joey is going to start staying out here for months at a time. Yeah, he wants to get a place downtown in the club. Me, Joe, I'm going to come back and look in about a week and a half. Every time he comes, I've got to come out of your dog. I'm like, come on. I'm going to make it easy for you. I'm like, we'll make it easy for you. You tell me when you want to come, you're coming. We'll fly you out, we'll push up, whatever you want. I'll get you real estate lady. Let's get the party started. And I'm trying to bring back the church of what's happening now.

50:31Because him and Lisa, they were together when they were at the club together. And I'm like, come on. Let's get the band back together. You guys together, we're fucking amazing. There was nothing like that show kept people alive. That show, Joey Diaz's show was one of the most ridiculous silly preposter shows. It was so ridiculous. And then he went to New Jersey. And here's the problem with Joey in New Jersey. He loves New Jersey, he loves New Jersey people. He needs comedians. And you forget that until you're not with them. And then you're like, oh, this ain't no fun. He's just talking to plumbers or whoever's got a decent attitude or whatever, you know, a decent sense of humor.

51:07I like talking to all kinds of people. Yeah, obviously. But I need comedians in my life. Like I need vitamins. Like I need a certain amount of sunlight to get some vitamin D. I need comedians. It's too like that night that we had in that green room, watching the elections. How many jokes were cracked? How many fucking times we rag on Tony? Oh, dude, we talked to Tony off the ledge. We did it. Tony's a fucking Tony. Tony's like got statistics. 26 % more Puerto Ricans voted for Trump. Oh, he had the Puerto Rican app open up, open on his hoop brace. But I'm like, they have that. What is that brother?

51:44He was like, how many plantains have sold tonight? He was fucking losing his mind. They tried to label him as a speaker. He said he was a speaker, a speaker that was at the Trump rally. He said the Puerto Rico was a pilot garbage. These are human beings. Was that Adam, right? Who was that? That's so vamo. Oh, it is a speaker. Those are the Trump rally. He was talking about Puerto Rico as a pilot garbage. The simple fact that Obama's talking about Tony and Clinton. Crazy. Bro, Obama's doing a Tony and Clinton bit. There's a video of us at the mother's show. It's going, we played it yesterday, but I want to play it again, Jamie.

52:30Play the video. It's on my Instagram of Tony is on stage in the main. By the way, Tony goes on stage. It's like Richard prior to showed up. They were going nuts. He murdered. He has 35 minutes on it. Oh, he's on stage.

52:49No way. At the same time. At the same time. Yeah. I'm going to say this is a slide by. It's amazing. You're going to get to the request. At least in simulation for sure. We're definitely in a simulation. Oh my god. So this guy was on Fox talking about Tony on one TV while Tony was on stage on the TV monitor. That's on bully. We did it. He was so nervous because here's what was going to happen. If he lost, you know, so the way these news organizations work, they have outlines for stories. If Kamala wins, they have outlines for stories. If Trump wins. If if Trump lost, they were going to blame it on Tony.

53:35They had stories where they're going to blame it on that joke. And they were going to say that that joke turned the tides. And maybe people realized the Trump organizations feel with Nazis and racists. And they were going to blame Tony. And Tony would have been fucked. Because then the Trump supporters would have thought that too. Right. So it was like both sides would have just like Tony. Absolutely. Absolutely. He would have to go to Puerto Rico or Costa Rica. Maybe Mexico. Mexico and Puerto Ricans don't really. No, they don't even don't get along that was in fighting. This has been a giant rivalry between Mexicans and Puerto Ricans.

54:08And a lot of really. Yeah. Oh, yeah, man, for sure. I didn't know that. Well, you know, there's no prouder group of boxers, I think, in the history of Earth and Mexican boxers. Like, they have a, yeah, Mexican boxes are known for a specific style. Like if someone says you fight like a Mexican, dude, that's a huge compliment. Yeah. Mexicans like Julio Saiser Chavez, you know, fucking Canelo Alvarez, Oscar de la Hoy, you mean you can go down the line, you know, Morales, fuck, man, there's so many Manuel Marquez. Yeah. So many, man. Yeah, they got so many punches in one punch. Well, they're just, is there, there's a culture of boxing there that goes back so far.

54:53And it's so, you know, and with boxing, it's always people that are poor that want to weigh out. And one of the best ways out if you're a poor young man is to fight. You can, you can make millions like Canelo, like Julio Saiser Chavez, like, so it's like the history of people rising through boxing, but there's a similar history in Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico has a history, a great history of boxing too. Really? But there was always a rivalry between Mexico and Puerto Rico. I can see that because you're both Latino cultures and you want to be the best, you know? Oh, yeah. I'm trying to think if I've ever been to a boxing match or not.

55:29You should go see Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson. Maybe the last boxing match ever. I don't know if I want to see it. Do you want to see it if Mike Tyson wins? I remember watching Mike Tyson versus Roy Jones Jr. Yeah. And it was like two guys I can beat each other up in baby diapers or whatever. It was like, bring it up. They were wearing like big diapers or what else? Oh, they were wearing cups. There's a protector that boxers wear that's different than the protector that MMA fighters wear. So the protector that boxers wears is foam that covers like the front of your hips and things too. Maybe I'm not thinking about it.

56:03Maybe I'm not thinking of something else then. But it just this is what I believe. I believe really truly to my core that they made an agreement where Mike Tyson was only going to hit him to the body full blast. It looked like every time he hit him to the head, he was kind of pulling back. That's it. It just didn't seem like this didn't seem like a real fight. It seemed like a fight to the body though. Mike was hitting him to the body really hard. And I think he hurt Roy a bunch of times really hard to the body. But you know, both of these men are 50. Roy in his day, I maintained to this day was the greatest boxer I've ever seen.

56:37Roy Jones in his prime was a freak. Like I mean a freak where he wouldn't even throw jabs. He would throw a lead left hook. He would favor that over a jab, but it was as fast as a jab and people couldn't understand it. Because you'd never been in a ring with someone that fast. If you were to Roy Jones highlight reel of chaos, you were watching like Roy Jones and he was as prime. There were execution son. It was like Mike Tyson in his prime, but a different thing. In fact, in a Nas song, Nas says the new Mike Tyson's Roy Jones. Roy Jones was just executing people. He was so much faster than anybody.

57:14His timing was so good. He was a sniper. Oh my God. He was just so skillful. Who would you rather knock you unconscious? You think if you had to pick a good fighter? Oh, I don't know. Maybe Roy would just put it out quick. Just pop you on the chin and you'd be in a corner though. Both of them will knock you out quick. We think. Yeah, but this is this one fight with Roy Jones with Vinnie Pazienza. It was the only fight in CompuBox history where the opponent didn't land a single punch. A single punch. This was like when Roy was trying to get the referee to stop the fight. Before that, Roy signal to the referee, stop the fight.

57:47The referee said no. Then Roy goes like this. He's like, look at Vinnie. Sorry, I got to do this. I never even seen him. He just lights it up. Bro, he was so good in his prime. But like all fighters, they stay past their prime and people really only remember them when they lost. Yeah. You know, Roy in his prime was just something completely special. You know, Alan Iverson vibe. You went to watch him just to see how long guys would last. That's what you would watch, to see what he would do to guys. I did a fish and rodeo with him once. Did you really? Yeah. He's a big fisherman. He dropped his hands, put him behind his back and knocked a guy out.

58:25Like, lured the guy in and hit him with a one straight right hand and dropped him. It was one of, he would just like, betoy and rage. He did. I can't even get a fucking medium jacket off of my body. This guy is doing this shit. That's what blows my mind. Roy was so good. He was so good. Oh, and everybody that went in there. Go get brother right there. There's a thing that happens when a guy is going to fight like, you would see it with Anderson. Who's he fighting? Some dude is in real trouble. They should stop this fight already. That dude did not need to take those other two punches.

59:00Dude, he was so fast. Yeah, dude. Tony was, Tony was, he was changed. Who's terrified? Tony was terrified. Right when I walked in, I didn't see him in my stomach and I was like, grilling him. Bro, there he is. I'm like, who's in the island now? That's what I said.

59:18He's fucking sitting there. Who's in the island now? Did you really say that to him? Yeah. And here's the best thing about Tony though. He laughed. Like, Tony is for the joke, right? Oh, yeah. Like, even if he's like going through it, he respects the joke. Always. There's many layers to that whole thing. It's like, Tony is who he is. And you, you almost, you respect that to the core. It wasn't the best timing. Probably not, right? No. Was there a lot of supervision over him? What he said? Probably not. But that just shows you how it's organized that meeting was. It's disorganized, but it's also real.

59:53So it's like, there's two ways to look at it. It's like, it's yes, it's like nobody proofread it. Let me clear something there. Because we did say that they went over his material. They didn't. They did not go over his material. They did. Someone suggested he take one joke out. So he took this one joke out. And he had, he's like, oh, what do I put in his place? He decided to go with the Puerto Rico joke. You fucking dumbass. Don't you? Way dead it. Yeah. But he's just so silly. But he's the good. But he laughs at himself. Oh, totally. But also he's, it's weird. Because it's like, do you want things to be tailored?

1:00:32Or you not want them to be tailored, you know? Yeah. It's like you could have, you could have a group that goes through every, every single joke and says, no to everything. Right. And then you get nothing. You get, you know what I'm saying? Kind of it's like, how many layers of like a, when you drain spaghetti, what have you been talking about? Like how many layers of spaghetti? No shit.

1:00:59I don't know. It's been a long year. I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. But I think when you get to a certain level of your career, you got to say no to things that are outside of comedy. Yeah. If you're just coming up and someone says, you want to go speaking for the president, go out there. Make a mark, soldier. Give it your best. But if you're a Tony Henschcliff and you just did the Tom Brady roast, kill Tony's the number one comedy podcast in the world. On me. You have millions and millions of downloads every week. Don't do that. They're just too comedy. You're really good.

1:01:28This is what I was trying to tell people. If you saw those same jokes on stage, he kills. Fucking crushes. It's just the worst environment ever for it. Lights are bright. It's in the day. Yeah. No one knows the comedian. He goes up cold. No one goes on after him. It's like his big ass pause after him. The whole thing was organized terribly. Yeah. Terribly. Just complete disorganization. It was like, there was the Trump speech, which is the big thing. Like, what do we do with all the extra time? Like, let anybody talk. Who wants to talk? This guy owns a fucking sandwich shop. Let him come up there.

1:01:58Yeah, look. It's my friend Giovanni. Like, look, they let anybody in there. They were letting people. They were saying wild stuff, too. Oh, they were letting anybody in there. And it didn't seem like they vetted a lot of the speeches. Some of the speeches were like, what do you, what do you, what do you do? They had 40 minutes of ASMR in there. They were fucking letting people do anything. Whenever you get an organization with us through Republicans or the Democrats, you got to kind of like a piece everybody. And you got psychos and moderate people. And they're all together under this one banner of this one.

1:02:25Like, if you ever been on a sports team, you just always like one dude on the team that's a fucking psychopath, right? Oh, you are. Don't cause any fights. Like, leave everybody alone. Let's go. Come on. We had a brother. He was slashed. Everybody's tires. But then here's a thing we were giving him a ride home. So I was like, well, now we're all. But that's who he was. He had a respect. And he was a power forward, you know? Yeah. Well, sometimes they're not making the best decisions. People don't get in a lot. People don't, man. I am. I don't feel paul players, bro. You get hit in the head a lot.

1:02:56You're going to make some sketchy ass decisions. Nick Boaster got brave and shared his political thoughts the other night. You see that? No, I didn't. Well, just crazy how like on mainstream stuff, if you share anything one way, it's okay, but you share something another way, it's not okay. Right. Like if you, nobody got angry at people, they made fun of people for supporting Kamala Harris. Like we've made fun of De Batista. Like because it looked just so silly. Like this performative commercial, where it's really important to vote for Kamala. De Batista. And Walls. It's a new, New Jersey, new to overlaid.

1:03:29The rest of the guy from Guardians of the Galaxy. Okay, you know I'm talking about Big Jack, dude. He's trying to get movies, man. He's wearing pearls to like red carpet events. I know what you're doing. You're trying to get those movies. You gotta like show. You're an artist, you're sensitive. You're on the right side. Put him in the, he wants to be a lead in a movie. Want to be a movie star. Didn't fucking turn on your camera at a house and make something. Dude, I'm telling you is the right move. What he's doing? Who's scoring big in the NBA this season? You are playing daily fantasy at DraftKings an official partner of the NBA.

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1:06:05Well, now you know, switch today at visible .com slash Rogan. Terms apply, see visible .com for network management details. Because of the right move. Even if he's fake in it. You mean for Hollywood, you mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where are the beads? Where are the where pearls? It softens you up a little bit. Lose some weight, lost a bunch of weight. Talk shit about Trump. He's allowed to be like a tough guy talking shit about Trump. Did you ever see that Jimmy Kimmel sketch they did? We called Trump a whiny bitch and you ever seen it? Or Jimmy Kimmel called Donald Trump then? No, no, no, no, no, no.

1:06:37Batista. They bought tasted it? You never saw it? Find it. Because it's kind of funny. Is he the Intercontinental Champion? I don't even remember. He was a big time wrestler was a giant dude. Like fucking built a superhero. And then he went and did Guardians of the Galaxy. Oh yeah, with Chris. Yeah, he's a big giant wrestler dude. Yes, now you're talking about. But he's wants to be a movie star. So he's losing some weight. He's a good actor too man. He was good in that. What was that movie? The glass. The glass onion. Yeah, that was a great movie. That was, he was really good in that. Try not to go what I've seen.

1:07:13He's just like a, if you're a big giant dude and you're a big muscle bound giant dude and you want to do like serious roles. Like you kind of got to lose some weight. You know, you got to, and you kind of got to like support Kamala Harris. You kind of got to like wear pearls. You kind of got to like soften your stance. You know, you got to kind of like be performative that you're the guy that they would want to pick. Because that's like part of the battle. Like here, let me give this. Oh, that's him? Yeah, though that was Eddie Bravo, is he? He's not Trump is some kind of tough guy. He's not. We look at him.

1:07:45He wears more makeup than Dolly Parton. One is like a baby. The guy's afraid of birds.

1:07:53Donald Trump had his daddy pay a doctor to say his will feet hurt so he could dodge the draft. Look at that gut. Like a garbage bag full of buttermilk. He sells imaginary baseball cards pretending to be a cowboy fireman. Guys are getting this strong enough to hold an umbrella.

1:08:13While he's working out. And where is this at Jocco's gym? I don't know. Pink chickity. Pink chickity. That's where he finally is. He's got jugs, big ones, like Donald Parton. He cheats at golf, creeps around beauty patching dressers. You know that little dance he does? Yeah, he's a pervert dude. Who isn't a pervert? His moody pouch, he throws tantrums. No, get those lights off. He acts like a five year old behind the wheel of a truck. Bing, bing, bing. He bends over for food and is cattier on social media. Middle school beangirl. The guy needs help walking downhill. Almost there, grandma. So this November, let's stop kiddin' ourselves.

1:08:59Donald Trump is afraid. I don't watch this kind of stuff. Look at this. Punches. Windmills. Murrow f**king street. And being locked at. HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! Isn't it past your jail time? Mostly he's terrified that real red blooded American men will find out that he's a weak, tubby toddler. Mommie, take me home, Mommie. I want to go home. He's a tough guy. So he'll grab you by the f**k. Wow. That close -in line's pretty tough, eh? It's not bad. It's good. It's probably a bitch. But it's like, you know what he's doing? Yeah. Trying to become a movie star. It's a good move. But why? The Hollywood liberals, 100 % love that.

1:09:49Well, Hollywood's just crazy to me, dude. I just don't understand it. It seems like they hate white men. Well, some people that work in Hollywood, I'm sure don't like white men, but that's a thing about woke culture. It's like there's a hierarchy of the injustices that you have faced. But it's like white men, even if it's not you, which is where it gets prejudiced, because it was not you, white men over history have caused the most grief. They've caused the most trouble. They've been responsible for the most injustices in this country, at least. You know, slavery, red line laws, other people have a slave.

1:10:27They still just pin the deal on the honky donkey. Right. But in America, slaves were loosely undeniably. In other countries, they're owned by all kinds of people. This is where it gets, that's what we got to do then. Well, people don't understand as there's more slaves today than they've ever been. The more slaves today than there were before 1865 when slavery was abolished in America. You're lying. Nope, there's more slaves. In Libya, when we took down Libya and the rebels killed Kedafi on television, did you ever see that? Uh -uh, I didn't know. It's one of the most terrifying videos. What channel was it on?

1:11:03C -SPAN. Um, no. But Libya became, for a while, became like a failed state. And at one point in time, there were slave auctions in Libya that you could watch on YouTube. Okay. Okay, is that like Google, Google the actual numbers? Oh my God. Yeah, that's real statistic. So, and this is also one of the things that people terrified about with this border deal, okay? Because one of the things about the border, it's not as simple as people coming over and they want a better life, of course. But it's also people being exploited. And there's tens of thousands of kids that are missing. Who knows if they've been smuggled into child trafficking?

1:11:44There's who knows how many people have been, okay, hold on a second. So, is estimates range from out 38 to 49 .6 million people are slaves today? The number of enslaved difficult people is difficult to determine. Estimates range from 38 to 49 million. What? Uh -huh. Yeah. Oh my God. I didn't have any clue. Well, you have to include people that can't leave, even if they're not like in cages, people that are trapped, right? Like Gaza people, you mean? Well, you, no, I would talk about people that work in coal mines or coal -balt mines in the Congo. They're essentially slaves. I mean, they give them the minimal amount of food and water.

1:12:29They work in horrific conditions and they live in complete abject poverty. But they're treated better than the people in Gaza, though. Perhaps. Well, they're all getting poisoned. They're all getting poisoned, pulling that coal ball out of the ground. Yeah, but still, they're getting a launch, I bet. Probably not a good lunch, I would imagine. Either way, yeah, you could find other spots that suck worse. But the point is, like those people, you could kind of consider slaves. And then there's real slavery. You know, this friend of mine was telling me about this place that was built in Jamaica, or the Bahamas.

1:13:05I think it was the Bahamas. And they brought in Chinese workers in like this giant ship. And he said they had this patch of land. They put up a fence around the land and all the Chinese workers lived on that land. And the Chinese workers built this resort there. And they worked non -stop 24 hours a day. They built the whole thing in 18 months. They would just have shift after shift. And once it was completed, they took all the workers, put them back in the boat, put them right back to China. So what was that? Was that slaves? That's slavery. It seems like slaves. Like it seems like, unless they paid those people and exorbitant amount of money, I don't know.

1:13:46I mean, I don't know what the arrangement was. Yeah, they put a fence around the area. They brought people in a giant ship. And then they put them back in the ship and shipped them back to China. Like if you were a slave. Well, they get fire fest, remember fire fest or whatever? Yeah. What the fuck was that? That was a dude trying to make money. Right, but still as you were carted over there. Nothing to eat, nowhere to sleep. Definitely different than slavery. But still, it's like, yeah, it's like, it's funny, you think just because things happen a long time ago that it's not slavery today, right?

1:14:16Well, I wouldn't say that fire festival is full of slavery. I agree. Did you see Prop 6 in California? What is that? That's on the screen. Prop 6 prohibits slavery and involuntary servitude. And it did not pass. What? What? Wait a minute. What? In California? Proposed amendment to California's constitution would bar slavery in any form and repeal a current provision allowing involuntary servitude as a punishment for crime. Because a lot of them gay producers trying to crank out them twinks. Homie, that's why, bro. Keep them as slaves. I'll tell you, bro, they fight every now and then. How would you lie?

1:14:52Every now and then, a freaking, some twink fucking clambers out of an air vent. Oh, here it is. It's forced labor in prisons. Yeah, it's good. Oh, gang people who are working prisons and do, like, they have to fight the wildfires and stuff. Interesting. So they want them to have to work. Wow. They just don't want to pay. Yeah, that's California. But that is what happened, right? That was what the Jim Crow laws were all about, man. Like one of the things about slavery is slavery didn't end. Boom. Now let's get black people jobs. No, slavery ended and then there is this long period where black men would get arrested for anything and everything.

1:15:31Yeah. And then they'd be forced to work. And they had work camps. And so you were still a thing. You could just get caught and you'd be a slave. You get a bad cop, besides your speeding. Whatever it is, you're a slave. Yeah. And they get that for a car and you're like, you're speeding. Yeah, you're looking at people bad. You're verbally intimidating people. Whatever the fuck it is. Like you see with the, when someone wants to target you for something you pissed off the wrong people, they fucking come after you with the law. And they can get you. If they just decide that you shouldn't be free and we're just going to, there's an industry around slave labor, which there is.

1:16:08There's also an industry now around keeping people in prison, right? Because the prisons are private. So it's a private corporation owns this building where you lock people up for money. You get paid for them being there. Who gets paid? The private prison. There's contracts with the state. Like it's like a summer camp or something. Why don't you? Who gives the contracts? But no, prisons are owned by corporations. Okay, so prisons own corporations. So no, no, no, no, no, no. Prison is owned by a corporation. So it's a business. Okay. So they lobby to make sure that laws stay on the books. One of them is marijuana.

1:16:46So the prison guard lobby. They were trying to make sure that marijuana stays illegal so that more people stay in prison. Because the more people in prison, the more jobs they have, the more hours they have, the better benefits they'll have. And the prison wants as many people in jail as possible. Because they get money. It's how they make money. Wow. Yeah. Who makes the money? It's not the government. No. Well, in some jails, but there's private prisons. Like what are the percentage of private prisons? Well, no, I know we've looked this up, but I forget the number. Are they nice, sir? I don't think so.

1:17:17What about the Excalibur and Las Vegas? That way, this is a fucking private prison. Have you ever been there? To your God, bro. I heard circus circus is going down. That's the ultimate. Circus circus is like, how is this place legal? Dude, that was the end of 2022. It's going to 8 % of the total state and federal prison population in the United States was in private prisons. What? Yep, which is about 90 ,873 people. This makes private prisons a relatively small part of the correction system, which is mostly public, which by the way is even crazier. How about the fact that 90 ,000 people in jail is a small percentage?

1:17:56Wow. We have more people in jail than any other country. Do you know that? Yeah, and we need a few more in there, too, I think. To be honest, bro, freedom is safe. Some people can handle freedom. Yeah, freedom ain't free. Freedom ain't free, man. What are you eating over there? I need a head of something, man. What's up? Huh? That's Zanzersam. Breakers. You scared of it? You want a vape on you? This is non -apocalyptic. What is that? Bust out the smell and sauce. I'll take a hit of any dirt. I'm about to fucking jerk off just to get high. Dude, I need something. What's happening? It's been a long week, man.

1:18:30Yeah, it's been a long year, man. Well, you're successful, you're handsome. I don't understand it. I don't understand it either. I don't understand it either. This one's so bad, it stinks. Does it? It's not the fish and bait one, is it? No, bro, this one is so strong. I haven't even opened this yet. My goodness. It's not even open yet. Can't smell it. You can't smell that? You have COVID? No. I don't think so. Shout out to my friend John Reeves, who gave me this knife. This knife is made with... You got a vape in here still, man? No. Come on, BLM, dude. What you got, Jamie? What do you need, man?

1:19:07What's wrong with your vape? I just want to hit a nicotine in it. What are you doing with a vape with no nicotine? Is it faking it? Yeah, it's trying to get through it all. Do you want a cigar, perhaps? It'll make me sick, I bet. OK. I want you to get sick. I know. Before I bust out these smells, all of a sudden, these are... Oh, my God. Dremendous. What round are we in? Boy. What round are we in, dogs? This one I'm smelling from over there. Here we go. Oh, my God. Come on, boy. I'm fucking right. That bitch, honey. Oh, ho. Huh? Bear back, huh? Ooh. Inwards and paras, baby. Let's get it. Get it.

1:19:46Get it. Ooh. Oh, Lord, right? There's nothing like a fresh one. How many seconds did I do, man? That's PBR shit. Yeah, good, good haul. Let me get one more. One more. Sorry, man. Sorry. Don't be scared. I like it. I get... Oh, Lord. Yeah, I can't leave you alone out there in two land. I got to get a dose in myself. I don't know. Oh, my God. Ugh. Fuck, I just think I saw who won the hives, man. Oh, my God. Bro, that shit made something happen to me. Those are so strong. Wow. I'm gonna join woman sports. That was a lot, bro. If every time you did this, and you left here, and you felt like you couldn't remember things well, would you still do it?

1:20:41Do that? Yeah. Yeah, I would. If you would lose like a little bit of memory, like where's my keys? Nothing serious. Like you remember your name. You know, still a memory phone number, but you like, where's my keys? To do a little bit of a drug? It's a little hit. Oh, yeah. I mean, one of my eyes just shut down. And yeah. And I like it. It's like how far can we go? There's something about doing something. It's like, I think when you have addiction, you want to do something that harms you. You know what it is? Yeah. You want to fucking, because it's controlled. It's like I want to control how I feel.

1:21:10So even if how I feel isn't great, there's a weird juxtaposition where it's like, if I have control over it, then that's, it's almost like you're the devil that's trying to kill you. You know, make any sense. So if you have control, like, so you have anxiety and you're worried about things and so in order to kind of mitigate that, you do a little bit of damage to yourself. So you have control over the damage. Yeah, there's something about having control about how you feel. So even if you're feel damaged, you still did it to yourself. There's like, I don't know, man, I'm doing the worst job. No, I know what you're saying.

1:21:49Self -destructive tendencies. It's a big part of addiction, you know? Yeah, self -destructive. It's like, just things feel so hectic right now, at least if I damage myself, then I'm the one doing it. I'm not just letting the world do it. There's, in the moment, you don't see that that doesn't have any value. Right. Afterward, you're like, shit, that was dumb. But in the moment, that feels like at least I'm taking control of the situation, right? I think sometimes you spend too much time alone. Me personally? Yeah. I guess probably true. Yeah, I think knowing you and being your friend for many years now, I think when you struggle is when you buy yourself too much.

1:22:31Yeah. Because when you are with everybody else, everybody loves you, we all have fun together. So I've said it before and I said it, I'll say it again, we need that, especially us, especially comedians. We need to be around people that are just like us, like you don't have to worry, we could just talk shit and laugh and have fun. There's no like wondering where we stand with each other. It's always fun. You need a home base man. Yeah. And you were doing better when you were at the comedy store all the time because you were around us all the time. We were all around each other. We knew there was a place we can go or we could find, like mind to people and have a laugh.

1:23:09Yeah. On a regular basis, which is like, we're so fortunate. Most people don't have a place where they can go where they're guaranteed to see people that they love and you're gonna have a good time and just be silly with each other. And then you're watching all these sets, everybody's going on stage with that energy. And so there's all this. That's fun. Killing in the air. Yeah, I mean, mothership is fun man. I want to look for a place you're gonna have the time. Let me ask you this. This year's been the craziest year, it's been a crazy year and so it's like, well it's good to be crazy because you're busy and you're doing great stuff.

1:23:42You're fun. Yeah, it's been fun. Your podcast is killing it. It's been scary. You know, it's been fun, you know. I appreciate the couple of times, you know, you've messaged me after a couple of episodes and said, hey man, that would you like that or something I really appreciate. I want to let you know that I really appreciate that. Oh, well I appreciate what you're doing. I'm very, very proud of you. I love to see how much you've worked at it and how your podcast just keeps growing in the ranks. It's really good man. It's a very authentic, it's a perfect podcast in that it's really you. You know how to be you.

1:24:08You're real authentic. Even if you're talking to Trump, you're being you. You're talking about doing cocaine with former President Trump. But now, new elected President Trump. So it's like, well, this one I have a voice, you know, I always just want to have a voice ever. And I even, I just want to, I don't know. You want to be like, express yourself. Yes, yeah. I just want to things to be fair and I just want to express, I just like, yeah. There was always this feeling inside me, like I don't have a, I can't speak up for myself, you know. And so like, I think, and even if I'm just listening to somebody but letting them speak, it's like there's still like something that, you know, it means it's like, I can't explain it.

1:24:46But it's like, it's so, it's like, I don't know. It means something to me. Yeah, I think these kind of conversations are very good for you. Like conversations that you're having, conversations that I'm having, I think they're good for you. You get a chance to communicate with people that are, you know, really interesting, unique people that have lived completely different lives than you. I got Brian Cox on the other day, explaining the universe to me. Fucking, I could, I was like, kid in a candy store. It's like, it's so exciting to get this guy. He's just like, super intelligent person who's also a really good communicator, who could break down the fabric of the universe for you and what we know about it.

1:25:27I mean, like, when does anybody ever get that opportunity to sit down and talk to someone like, for three hours? Yeah, man. Dude, I had a lady who had been driving cats across the country for two years in a fucking tour bus, right? And they perform and they do music classes. Right? And, bro, I'm not here joking to you. It was one of the most fascinating things that I'd ever heard in my life. Oh, yeah. Because her commitment to it, she got her CD else as she could drive the fucking bus because it was so expensive. What's the CDL? Commercial drivers license. And she goes around doing a feline shows around the whole country.

1:26:02And she's been doing it for 15 years. What do you think she voted for? I think I got a question. I don't know. Whoever, right, grabbed by the pussy, probably that guy. Do you know that crazy cat ladies that there's a reason for that? It's the same reason that, like, it's a cat parasite, toxoplasmosis. She was saying it's a medical ailment. Makes you aggressive. No, it makes you aggressive. Yeah. I bet a lot of, like, that's that term cat lady, crazy cat lady, that's a real thing. That lady's got a parasite. She's got a brain parasite. Toxoplasmosis. But you can't tell them that. Oh, I bet I could test them.

1:26:41Oh, probably. You get a cheek swab. Hold that lady down. Give me a cheek swab. I guarantee that lady's got it. Oh, that lady, what are you? I used to live with a dude, bro. I used to live with this dude, right? And I ended up doing fucking a lot of drugs or something and whatever and I fucking cut a window into my closet, dude. And it was to the neighbor's apartment. I thought it went outside. I got kicked out. Oh my god. But before that, I live with this dude and he would get released. And you're that lady in the apartment next door and you hear a slaw. Hurt, hurt, hurt, hurt, hurt, hurt. Hurt, hurt, hurt, hurt.

1:27:12Some dudes got the whole and you're fucking apartment. Yeah, man. I just... That's the crazy thing about apartments, right? You just say, Oh, pain. That's how apartments are. That's what you do with it, bro. I've been up for fucking 42 hours on drugs. You wanna hear something crazy? Trump, at the day of the election, Dana White told me he'd been up for 72 hours. I go, how's that possible? He goes, dude, he's a freak. It's so weird. Well, yeah, dude. I'll say some things. Here's things that like, whatever you think about, the thing that the guy is as resilient, no one could go through all that shit.

1:27:50When the justice department started to fuck him over, that's when a lot of people were like, you know what, the only thing we should be able to believe in in this country is at least the justice system. And if they're fucking him over. And then he got shot at a couple of times, dude. He's a quarter of 50 cent. You know what I'm saying? He's like, so it's like, what else does it, you know, at a certain point, you just like, I got a bet on this dog. You know, even if it's like, you don't even like it. It's like, this motherfucker, this dude, you got a bet on that dog at it. If not, it's just bizarre, you know?

1:28:31I mean, the guy gets up and says, fight, fight, fight, after he got shot in the ear. He's not freaking out. He's like, oh, we got a good shot. Give me outta here. They're shooting. He looked, he was not gonna stop, stop, fight. Yeah, fight, fight. Dude, I still might tell, I call my assistant a faggot. Yeah, that's right. So yeah, there's something special about that guy. And if you're lying about him, and I know you're lying about him, why am I supposed to trust you that you're lying for a good reason? Right, if you keep repeating these same hoaxes, they keep repeating, Obama was repeating it in one of his speeches.

1:29:07He said about those white supremacists, the very fine men on both sides, that's not true. Yeah, it's not true. Well, why, I don't understand why left leaning in the media, which is mostly Jewish, or calling people white supremacists, dude. Jewish, did you say that? Yeah, I just don't understand. That's why media is mostly Jewish. I mean, according to my Jewish friends, it is, you know? But why do they hate white guys? It's just woke things, man. It's just virtue woke bullshit. It's like the list of understand it. Well, because the hierarchies have experienced a polar shift, okay? So here's what it is.

1:29:45If you go back to the 1960s, the kind of racism that people faced, like before the race riots and all that, was horrific because it's just 100 years removed from slavery ending. And the echoes of that, just in our genes. Yes, but the echoes of that were much more prevalent then. And so black people were heavily discriminated against, gay people were heavily discriminated against. People recognize that that's wrong. Young people go to universities, they get taught that it's wrong, they recognize the sins of the past, and then they overcorrect. And by overcorrecting, now you favor people that you think have been previously marginalized.

1:30:28So you give people, like Vivek calls it the tyranny of the oppressed. So the oppressed, the previously oppressed, now have a social hierarchy, a stand, their higher level. If you're a black trans woman, you get to say the things first at the meeting. You know, let the black trans woman talk. There's a hierarchy in all woke culture. And if you're a white male who's heterosexual, you have to be non -binary. Because otherwise you can't get in. You gotta be a they them. Because then now, okay, now you're marginalized. Like, all you have to do is change your front. That's the lowest level of entry is non -binary straight man.

1:31:07You just say you're non -binary. You just say, I just don't feel like a man or me like, fuck chicks. You know what you're doing? You little chameleon? Yeah, you're just sneaking around. You're just sneaking around. Or whatever. You're sneaking around. But there's hierarchies. And gay people, because gay people have been previously oppressed. Gay people weren't even a left. Even in 2013, up to then, Hillary Clinton and Obama both said that marriage should be between a man and a woman. We have to realize that this was like 11 fucking years ago. That was their political talking points. Marriage should be between a man and woman.

1:31:44So now, kids realize how stupid that is. Young kids generally have a much better sense of the errors of the past than we do. Unless we're paying attention as we get older, we pay more attention to what's going on before. But now, kids immediately are aware of how fucked up colonial society has been, how they've conquered North America, killed the indigenous people. So they want to like, re -correct things. Oh, yeah. If I was ever in office, dude, the Native Americans are getting a lot of shit back immediately, dude. Well, there are the Episcopalinos. Huh? There are the Episcopalinos. Yeah, but did they want casinos?

1:32:19I wanted them to have back whatever they want. They're getting it back. They're getting the rivers back. They're getting the lakes back. They were taking it from each other, too, dude. It's like, it's crazy. Everybody acts up Native Americans. We're like, everybody's just like, whistling and just shaking hands, but they were fighting. Yeah, 100%. But you would have to figure out like who owned it, like at that time, and give it back to them. And then you would have to let all those other people try to kill them and get it back. Because if you want to go back to the old ways, that's the old ways.

1:32:45You want to go back to when the Comanche ran Texas. Like, okay, good luck. But you know what the Comanche's favorite thing was doing? Rating other tribes. They loved that. They were gang bangers. Yeah, they were gang bangers. They would show up in other tribes and slaughter people. And they wouldn't just slaughter people. They would torture them. They would cut their arms and legs off, throw them on a pile of fire. Nobody ever surrendered, ever. Because they knew that there was no leniency. You're gonna be tortured and killed. Oh, see to fight to the death. 100%. I'm mad at you. Not being able to surrender because you have no choice but to fight to the death.

1:33:18That's the concept of surrender. There was completely alien to Native Americans. They fought to the fucking death. And they fought each other to the death. And there was battles between all of them. And they conquered and they made alliances, and especially little big horn. They all got together and fucked up, Custer. But there's so many different tribes that conquered so many different, and you'd have to go back to when. Right, you like when. Well, you got it because you killed all these people. Let's go back to the Algonquins. Let's give it to the fucking empatchies. You'd have to figure it out, man.

1:33:49Like this was a, should I take a little train catcher to get the truth? This was really like in some ways, other than the violence. It was like a utopian existence. It was these people followed the buffalo around, ate every part of it, used their skins to make their houses, traveled on horseback, following them around. They didn't even make art, dude. The Comanche didn't make art. They didn't make any. Why, they were just warriors? Just warriors eating meat. All they did was eat buffalo and kill everybody else. So is it weird that we feel bad about that? Like is that a trap? Like that's what I'm wondering, does that question make sense to you?

1:34:30Well, that was the way they lived. I mean, is that better than drone bombs in Yemen? When we sit here comfortably in this fucking Austin warehouse, is it better? Is that better? No, the whole thing is fucked. It's fucked that Gaza's going on. It's fucked that they're using these poor Ukrainians. Like fucking meat for the Russian war machine. The whole thing's crazy. It's all bad. But the crazy that was going on back then was a one -on -one crazy. It's a different kind of crazy. It was like, there was an understanding that if you saw somebody and they had horses or they had these, you're gonna go kill them and take that thing from them.

1:35:05And if you knew that there was a camp and the camp was over the top of the ridge and they would be in bed at night, you would come in the middle of the night and slaughter every day. Oh, yes, and they did that to each other. They did that to each other. So it was a horrific way of existing. Because sometimes there's this vision that you romanticize that culture, right? I do that a lot. I romanticize things that I don't know about, right? Because it just seems like something like, oh, that's romantic or something, you know? This was a culture of war. It was fucking hide and go seek for real. It was culture of warriors.

1:35:39Like this whole country was filled with no matter. No matter what. Yeah. And most of them got killed by fucking smallpox. That's what's the crazy. Oh, most of them got killed by the flu and all sorts of diseases that came over with the European. How gameless that have felt, dude. You're fucking warrior, right? Suddenly you get a fucking, some of the smeezes on you at the depot. You go to the trading depot to drop off some fucking skins. Some dude sneezes on you and that's a wrap. Yeah, you're like, you've been training all day, dude. Fuck. It's something I just fucking, doesn't wash his feet for half an afternoon.

1:36:17Or just came here off a boat. Stinky bitch was breathing shit, shit air and drink it, shit water. You know, like, do you imagine the hygiene on those boats? Oh, Columbus is, shit goes like the first burning man, dude. That place was a dumb dude. I heard the pented and he made me chicks on it, dude. It's like, there's an example. Columbus is an example. Could you have done it? I mean, probably if you lived back then, that would have been the thing to do because you would have been bored. But you're in them. It's early morning. You would have wanted to try. You would wanted to try to see what it looks like to go across the ocean.

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1:38:13They didn't even know where they were. But if you read the accounts, there was a priest that traveled with them, some sort of religious man that traveled with them. Like a detailed diary of the horrific things that Columbus has mended. They bashed babies on the rocks. They were tall. Yeah, yeah, they told certain men that they had to give them their weight in gold. And if they did, they would chop dudes, arms off in front of everybody. They enslaved these people and used them for their gold. Because these people had no use for gold. They didn't know how valuable gold was. Even when they got to the Americans.

1:38:46Exactly. Yeah. People are just slaughtered people. They just slaughtered people, dude. There's horrific depictions of what Columbus's people did. We were a man of size. I romanticize nature so much and it's really vulgar, isn't it? Well, it's just humans have always done this to each other. For all human history, the strong groups of men with weapons, invade people that aren't prepared, and they take all their stuff and they conquer them. And it's always happened. It's the most common thing. If you go back and look at history, there's a bunch of common things. There's an increase in the complexity of architecture and the design of the cities.

1:39:26There's machines. There's all these different things improve. But along the way, the consistent thing is war. It's constantly happening from the beginning of time as early as we know, tribes were battling other tribes. And back then, when there wasn't that many people, wasn't that many resources, and you were competing to see whose gene spread, it's just natural. You develop tools and weapons, and then that's ingrained in our fucking DNA. So here we are in 2024. To iPhone 16s and Starlink. And we're still locked into this tribal war mindset because that's how humans evolved. Right. And that's the scariest thing about being alive today is that we're so advanced, we're so much more civilized than at any other point in human history.

1:40:13And yet, same amount of people, if not more, are dying senselessly all the time. Right, like we're civilized on the outside, but there's a part of us that will always be uncivilized. Yeah, well, the part of it is war, right? And other parts of the world are not as calm as us. There's parts of the world that are very fucking dangerous. There's places of the world where you can't go without getting robbed or shot. Yeah, just really... It's really... First of all, it's Memphis, that bad? Memphis is bad, dude. That's where Elvis came from, huh? Is that where Elvis came from? Any left, too. Where's Graceland?

1:40:49Actually, Graceland, you know it's Graceland, it's in Memphis. And it's cool. You go out, they let you in the backyard after the smoke and Elvis' grave is right there. You could smoke right in front of Elvis' grave. You could smoke 17 centimeters from Elvis' grave, or 80 centimeters. That movie, that Elvis movie was so good. Which one, the one with Tom Hanks? Where Tom Hanks plays the Colonel? Do you see that one? Oh, yeah. What is his name? Austin Colonel. What's the fellas name that played Elvis? Austin Butler. Austin Butler is really good. Yeah, that was good. You fucking, he nailed it. He was really good.

1:41:22You really believed that he was Elvis. What a crazy story. Yeah. Elvis was the first guy to get way too famous. The first guy that was just way too famous. Yeah. Like there was no one that famous before Elvis. No, there was. Well, yeah, there was Jesus, probably who else? Maybe Jesus. Constantine. I think Jesus got his rep, like he got his after - After - After - After - After - After - After - After - After - After - I mean, people love Kirk O 'Bane while he was alive, but I think they really appreciated him after he was dead. There's certain guys. There's certain guys. What do you think you, what do you, what are you going to do when you die, David?

1:42:08I'm not doing shit. I'm dead. All right. We'll see about that. What we'll see about that. That's what's interesting. Imagine if you really do go to heaven and St. Peter really is there with a book. You're like, this is crazy. First thing you're going to think is this dude's gay is fuck, I think. With that robe. You're going to go on the robe. Some dude says a checklist or whatever. Imagine you're the most likely to get in a hide or whatever. You're the most enlightened being ever, but you walk around with a robe on. Robes are stupid. I never want to wear a robe. Even if you're wearing a robe. Even if you're wearing a robe.

1:42:36If I have to go to like a massage place, you have to wear a robe before you take the robe off, I'm like, okay, you're going to see me on my underwear in five minutes. So why don't we just do it now? It's flirting. It's lingerie. A robe. Yeah. But if you just mail a lot of it, God be wearing a robe with a robe tie. Bro, don't you know about pants? You can get yourself a pair of origin stretchy jeans. They're great, man. They look like jeans, but they feel like fucking sweatpants. God. Why are you wearing a robe, man? You think God's got that bang on him or what? What do you think? Probably got a hog.

1:43:11He think? He created the universe. Yeah. Oh my God. You bet. You would want it. Oh, but you would want it. If you saw it, you'd want it. I wouldn't go up to it. Imagine it just has a magical attraction. You're like, you're not even gay, but everybody's gay for God. Hey, look, I'll tell you this. I might walk up to it, but I put sunglasses on first, dude. If God's real, he made gay people. Anybody who thinks gay is a choice, I think gay is a choice for some people. Let me be real clear about this. I think there's some people that are open -minded and say, I'll try being gay for a while. It's not me.

1:43:44Maybe it's you. Greg Fitzsimmons said he almost tried it, and he panicked the last minute and ran away. He thought he had to say open -minded. I'm late to do it. I feel like it's like a late night act. A lot of gay stuff doesn't happen. Nine in the morning. That's one. Yeah. Pass one a .m. I like to get to bed at a decent hour. My point is God made gay people. Yeah. So it's clear, if God made everything, he made people that are gay. The craziest religious answer, like Ben Shapiro gave me this answer. He said he thinks you should ignore, don't do it because it's a sin. Just like you want to murder people, but you don't murder them.

1:44:16Like, bro, how much do you want to murder people? Like it's like, because gay people want to fuck every day. Yeah. Who wants to, if you want to murder people every day, check yourself in. That's a crazy comparison. Like the gay thing is literally your sexual expression. Like you're attracted to other guys. So like if you're not attracted to other guys, you think, are you sure God wrote that down? Like are you 100 % positive that God really thinks that's a bad idea? But yet he made people that have that urge. Right, it wouldn't be fair if he did that. It wouldn't be right. Right. I think the craziest thing is I think if you, the first gay dude must have been like, what's going on, you know?

1:44:56Like he's sitting there with his wife or whatever and his buddy comes over to like, you know, to just look around or whatever, because that must stuff back then. And his buddy comes over just to like look around or tell him about it like an animal he saw or something. And he just starts thinking, man, I'm gonna fucking, I bet I'm gonna get this little rabbit. I bet it existed from the jump. Little rabbit. Little rabbit. What do you think is a gay dude? Think of you get that little rabbit? That's what you think. That's what you think is a little booty right? Booty guy. I think gay guys have been here from the beginning.

1:45:26I'm a snort that little fucking. You know why? Because I think human beings are a little dirt oyster. You know what I mean? Jesus Christ. I'm just saying, bro. What do you think if you're the, if the thoughts have to come in your head, something puts the thoughts in you. I think it starts in the thoughts. I don't think it starts in the DNA. Well, it might start in the DNA too. There was, I think, see if you can find this. I think it was University of Rome. They proposed a theory that there was a variation of the X chromosome that existed in women that are very promiscuous. And that these very promiscuous women had a disproportionate amount of gay sons.

1:46:06Oh my God. Yeah. So the idea is that these women are just so, they're so dick hungry that it literally passes on through their genes. Where was it? It wasn't in Rhode Island, was it? No, but that could, it could happen in Rhode Island. Providence would be a good place for that. That's, isn't there like a gay mecca that's kind of gay? Yeah. Um, Providence Town, I think. Yeah. Jeff, what's your name? It's a party there. Jeff, from the comedy store. I think Providence Towns Massachusetts. But there's, I know what you're talking about. There's a thing in Rhode Island, and then there's Fire Island in New York.

1:46:39But I think their thought was that the same gene that made women like really promiscuous. They wanted a bunch of different sexual partners. Uh -huh. That this same, that it might be actually a gene thing. Hmm. You see, the gene thing is weird, man, because Brett Weinstein explained this to me. He said, do you know the difference between a beautiful woman and a woman who's hot? And I said, no, like what's the difference? You know, like a beautiful woman is a woman that you would want to have a long -term relationship and raise children with. Yeah. And then a hot woman, like woman is wearing like very skimpy clothes and very, like looks like she's really, like really made up very, like the idea that that's attractive is that you could potentially spread your genes quickly without any consequences.

1:47:24So the, this person, right, you wouldn't have to have a relationship with that person, but it would give you an opportunity to spread your genes, like as primate. Just spray and stray kind of thing. Like Monsanto or whatever. The fertility, the amount of children they have, I think, or something. Oh, I thought it was, um, I thought it was the promiscuous women. I think I'll show you the title. Does it say that there? I hope that one of this is their interpretation. This is, uh, yeah, that's around the time. Gay genes survived evolution as it is carried by mothers who have more children. Well, I guess what?

1:47:55If you have more kids, it means you're like, dick. I, I think they were talking about promiscuity, though. Um, however, a study published by the Journal of Sexual Medicine found a correlation between gay men and the mothers, their mothers and maternal aunts who are prone to have significantly more children compared to the maternal relatives of straight men. I think we need more gay men in some of these areas. Well, hold on a second. Doesn't that make sense, though? Um, that would make sense, like in terms of, like natural selection. Because if you're someone who's like over having kids, you have too many kids, you have like 10 children.

1:48:30All right. Uh, I would see how nature be like, you know what? We don't need to spread these genes as much. Let's make a couple of these gay. Right. Nature's like, let's even things out right. Right. Oh, I think nature wants people to balance. Yes. Nature wants balance. Yeah. And if someone has 10 kids and everybody else has 10 kids, that could get out of hand real quick. So I can see how if you have a lot of kids, nature, like, you know what? Let me do this. What was that? Where was that study done from? Uh, where you said? University of Rome. University of Padova in Italy. Okay. And just as there's people that's gay, there's people that are non -sexual at all, really.

1:49:08100 percent, which is, stay out of the, stay out of the fight. You don't belong in the 2A2 plus A. Yeah. Whatever that is. So what is it? It's QBD. What is it? LGBTQ. To A .I. Plus. A is A sexual. Stay out of it. Yeah. Stay out of it. Yeah. This is not your fight. Yeah. They got it. Some people. It's not your fight. Yeah. You're just like, you don't even have sex with anybody. Yeah. What if you're just jerking off of your house? Are you in that or what? Like, what is that? Who are those people? Right. That's lonely sexual. Yeah. And L. I think they're going to put robots in there. You see that robot cut and hate the other day?

1:49:51I did not. Pull that up if you don't mind, Jamie. With a scythe like the Reaper? Yeah. Like a Reaper? Yeah. It was like, uh, a little bit of like, uh, not a slave body or whatever. We were talking about robot bodyguards. They're in the future. You'll have robot bodyguards. You can go anywhere you want. That'd be cool. But then like the second you start, you got to run. They're going to be like, well, right. And then they'll run. It's going to take half a second. Half a second kills everything. I bet they just pick you up and they run with you. Wow. They just carry you. There we go right here. This is not real?

1:50:20That's not real. That's not real. Jamie, you're a party pooper. It's like how it's a real. Super real. You see that pod where they're killing? Jamie, that is so real. Yeah, that's real. Go back. 100 % that's coming. Okay. Sure. But yeah. That's the same. That's the only thing. I mean, all these folks that are coming over here for jobs, there's a lot of those jobs they're going to be taken by. Like unskilled labor jobs are all going to be robots. But don't you think at a certain point that we shouldn't have that? Like at a certain point, shouldn't AI, it doesn't, if it doesn't help us be human, that at certain point we just stop it.

1:50:49That's how I feel like. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But you just stop it all day. Where they're now. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they should have stopped the long time ago. If you want humans to survive, it's just stopped the long time ago. If you want the human race as it is now, you want this to stay, that doesn't make sense because you're making something way better. You're 100 % going to make something and you're going to give it autonomy and you're going to give it sentience. And it's going to be infinitely smarter than us. It's not going to be restricted by any biological needs. It's not going to be greedy. It's not going to be mean.

1:51:21It's not going to be malicious. But it might decide we're useless. It might decide that it definitely doesn't need us polluting the ocean. Fucking up the fucking rivers. It's risky. Yeah. Nuclear waste. It's going to be like, what are you doing? Morons. Why are you idiots cracking atoms? Stay out of that. Like you don't even know what you're doing. Here's free porn and a fucking VR mask. You'll give you free food. Have a blast. Do that. You stop breeding. Well, the. The population will just drop off a cliff. They just I saw um. They um. Where are we talking about a second ago? Robots. Yeah. Oh, they're killing people with the airport.

1:52:05You want another? Yeah, I'll take another one, man. I need another soda or something. You got anything on you in here? We got coffee. You want to take another kill cliff if you got one? Jamie, go get your one. Want some coffee? Do you mind? Is that coffee? Yeah. Yeah, I tried. It's a clean mug. It is. It's warm coffee. Just came out of the dishwasher. Oh, yeah, it's a civil war. Why do you pour it with one hand trapped or need that arm? You're freaking me out. Challenging myself, dude. As wrist ability. That was all wrist. You didn't move your arm at all, dude. You were all wrist on that jam. Yeah.

1:52:35That's hard to do, man. Thank you. That's what the wrist is the weakest link. You ever do wrist curls? I'm shocked at how we bitch -ass my wrists are. Oh, it's amazing. Well, it's amazing whenever you take like, any jujitsu classes how the first thing you start to learn is to control the wrist. It's crazy. It changes everything. Especially guys with big hands. So you could grab like a guy with a basketball player at Stuy's hands. There's this dude named Semi Shilt. He used to fight in the UFC. Semi? Semi Shilt. He was seven feet tall. Oh, wow. And the problem with Semi is if you got on top of him, he just grabs your wrist.

1:53:07You can't get your hands free. Like, it's my motherfucker. Cause you have this fucking baseball mitts for hands. He just wrapped his hands around you. That's Semi Shilt. Wow. He was K1 Grand Prix winner. I'm like, he looks like Zach Bryan on top. Seven foot tall. He was a beast, dude. He fought in MMA too. Wasn't a good grappler. Unfortunately, that was kind of his downfall. But he had a nasty front kick to the body. Yeah, he fought Peter. He fought everybody, man. Semi was good. And he was real tall and real good at like utilizing that height. Wow. It would seem like I would be scared to be that tall in MMA because there would be more of you to be attacked by.

1:53:45Sort of, but you're way further away. You know, like the whole thing is distance where you could effectively strike them and they can't strike you. Yeah. Like a guy built like John Jones has the perfect fighter's frame. Cause he's still very strong. He has a lot of muscle, but he's also long and lean. So he's not relatively bulky compared to his weight. Cause he's long and stretched out. Yeah. So he can hit you from here. And you can only hit him from here. This this amount of distance is so huge. If you have a distance of like that much, which you where a guy can hit you and you can't hit him, you have to cross that and you're so vulnerable while crossing that.

1:54:24And if a guy is a good counter -striker and he's active and long, they're so so hard to get in on. So guy like John, that's always going to be an advantage. And then with John, if you do get in on, that's no picnic because he's a elite grappler. So he's going to strangle you. He's going to throw you to the ground. So like you're fucked. You're in this fuck zone on the outside is kicking this shit out of your knees. John's on the nastiest side kicking people's knees. Yeah. Yeah. Most dangerous guy. Very dangerous. People say that he's Dana White's favorite fighter. Is that the truth? Do you think?

1:54:57Well, this Dana White says he's the greatest of all time. Right. Which a lot of people say. Yeah. I don't I go back and forth on what I think the greatest of all time means. But if you want to that's a good question. If you want to say like who dominated his division longer than anybody who beat everybody that was ever any good in his division and who never lost that's John Jones. The only time you could say he had a controversial decision was the Dominic Reyes fight. It was Dominic Reyes was coming up. He was in his prime. It was a really good fight. A really close fight. But John won. What I think was a split decision.

1:55:31And then he had a split decision with the younger silver. Thiago Santos. But Thiago Santos. He blew out both of Thiago's knees. Thiago needed knee surgery on both of his knees after that fight. I think that was a split decision. That's dangerous. But the bottom line is John won all those fights. And then you know he wins the heavyweight title too. It's tough to argue he's not the greatest of all time. Yeah. I say you know if you had to only pick one I would pick John. But I don't like only picking one because there's a bunch of reasons why other guys are in this elite class of being considered as possibly the greatest of all time.

1:56:07I always say mighty mouse. Because mighty mouse would do things where you're like what the fuck did he just do? He when he fought Ray Borg. He tossed him in the air and caught him in a fucking arm bar on the way down. Oh god. You ever see that? No I've never seen that. It's one of the craziest things I've ever seen a guy do inside the cage. He threw this dude through the air and caught a flying arm bar in the air. Fuck. It's so fast. Like when it turned to me it's like when I just think watch this. Throws him. Oh bro. Wow dude. Bro. Bro. If that dude ain't good at GIF rap and you got the wrong guy.

1:56:44You know how crazy that is? Look how crazy this is. In the middle of the air he switches to an arm bar on an elite fighter in a world championship fight. That's like a stunt. That's like a stunt move. If you saw that in a movie you'd be like shut the fuck up. Nobody can do that. Right. He did it in an MMA championship fight where he was dominating the fight. Yeah it's crazy how many of those guys would be like or like Hollywood stunt man you know. And then you got a you also got a like if you just look on record this is where it gets crazy. If you just look on record of accomplishments against champions.

1:57:16You kind of have to put Alex Pereira already in the conversation of potential greatest of all time which is so crazy. He's one of only three two division champions right. He is how many how many have been two you have Connor you have DC you have Alex I think that's it. Didn't to per uh no no I think that's it. Amanda do this that doesn't really count because 45 it does count but 45 is kind of a non -existent weight class. He's like watching exists. He's a hunter that she was fighting girls that could have fought 35. It's it's real but like 45 is the most one 45 for women is the most shallow vision in MMA.

1:58:00So yes you would say Amanda too. So it's a small percentage of people that have achieved that. And he achieved it in record time. He's knocked out so many fucking champions. Knocked out Jamal Hill. Y -not beat the shit out of Yuri Pahaska. Knocked him out in the second half. That was crazy. Bro. Hunted him. Bro. Bro. That guy's unbelievable watching him. He's a fucking monster dude. He's a monster. He's a force. What he did to Khalil Rountry was a clinic. Khalil's amazing dude. He's amazing. To do that to a guy like Khalil like that was a clinic in like elite world class MMA. And at first the first two rounds you're like what is this like what's going on Khalil's in it's they're both in it but then you start to see that um Per is hunting it's like this hunting.

1:58:44Yeah the pressure never ends. Yeah and you're like oh my god it's like literally watching one of those snake like a snake when they're just kind of like like did you see that snake that ate that deer like a 77 pound deer or whatever. Yeah I did see that. You did? Of course. I see all that shit. It's crazy. Bring that up bring that big dog man. He says snake because that's kind of how Pereira moves. He moves like a snake like he pulls back and then he strikes forward he pulls back. He's a master at just getting right outside of your shots and then his shots are coming right behind him. And he operates at his own speed.

1:59:16He's almost like Alvin Camera is a football player that does that. He operates at his it's a speed you've never seen. It looks normal but it's different. What varies a lot too. Like sometimes he moves fast and sometimes he moves slow. It's very hypnotic. Yes it's hypnotic. It's also unique. He's got a unique frame so he kind of looks. He moves different on design. Wow. Like he doesn't switch his hips when he throws kicks. So you don't see him come until it's too late. Right. So he's standing in front of you and he kicks. There's no movement of his shoulders. He's just throwing these kicks out and they land.

1:59:49And they're not as hard as if he put his whole body into it. Right. But it's hard enough where you're like oh no. And you get hit with a couple of those three four or five of those. All of a sudden you're like I can't walk anymore and now he's hunting you. And he's hunting you. Yeah. I would put him already in the conference. I don't think he's better than John Jones greatest of all time. But I already put him in the conversation. That was a potential greatest of all time nominee. Oh he's he's right there. He's the male cat in his ever team. He's only been in MMA for a few years. He's a hunter and he's only been in the UFC for a few years.

2:00:21Yeah. It's crazy. Couple MMA fights other than the UFC. And then the UFC for this run at the top of the division. Just smashing everyone to a blithering. So then you got Kabeb undefeated 29 degrees. What is the greatest? Oh, George the NBA are another two division champion. That's right. George won at 85 as well. That's our almost forgot George. Yeah. So George won at the greatest of all times for sure. Yeah, saw him in the conversation. I got to see him in Canada. Anderson in his prime. Anderson is primers in that conversation. You got to look at them like in their in the moment. Whenever there's a moment of time period of like this amount of years to that amount of years.

2:01:01Well, it's all agreed that this is the prime. Forget about when they should have retired. Let that go. Just talk about them when they're out their best. Who is the best? That's a good point. Yeah. Because everybody that's doing great, you want to stay as long as you can. It would be weird if you didn't probably. But you can't judge them by how they were when they should have gotten out. Because it's just a foolish endeavor. They should have been fighting a killer at 42 years old. You know, natural. And it's timing too. Yeah, there's, but there's just a lot. When fighters fight late into their career, you got to kind of, you got to kind of erase that when you think about their ultimate expression.

2:01:39Yeah. I feel like their prime is their ultimate. It's everything they could do. They did everything right. They crossed every tea. They measured all their food. They fucking did the cryo chamber. And they did saw it as every day. And got massages. And we're sparring and doing strength and conditioning drills. And they were going over moves their coaches. They had a battle plan. Everything. So those guys, you can only do that for so long. There's that's like a nine year at the best when you're at the, so you got to look like in that when like, Fedor and Pride. You got to look in that window. Don't look at Fedor now.

2:02:15And you know, guys are knocking him out. And it's just not the same. He's an old guy. He's been beaten up a bunch of times. Still a bad motherfucker. But it's not, not that dude who's running pride in the early 2000s. Right. Look at that. Yeah, you got to look at them when they're in the BJ pen at his best. Yeah. The BJ pen for a few years. I say is as good as I was. I know you're talking about him a lot. I've heard you speak about him a lot. Do you just had a, when he was in his prime, it was just a matter of was BJ going to get him in the first round. Was he going to get him in the second round?

2:02:44BJ was hyper aggressive and just unbelievably talented. I wasn't watching back then. And dexterity dude. He had crazy dexterity. He's the governor of Maui, isn't he? No, no, no, no. He was right for the governor of Hawaii. Did he win? No, he didn't win. Oh, no. I went to Maui not too long ago. Maybe four months ago. Maui's awesome. Yeah, it's all, but we went to the place where the hurricane, where the fires were. Flue my mind, man. It's still nothing, right? It was unbelievable. Yeah. It was just like, it was unbelievable to see what had occurred, you know? And just like, it's crazy how quickly we just as like, how we move past certain tragedies, you know?

2:03:26We don't mean to. It's just the news cycle does. And you know, we get kind of addicted to the news cycle. And so then it's kind of hard, you know? But it was, I'll tell you one thing. The way the administration handled that, I think put a bad taste in a lot of people's mouth, while at the same time they're sending all that money to Ukraine. I think that was a big problem with the Biden administration when they did that. I think you can't do that. You can't, while you're sending all this money overseas, ignore the people that are here. Because then it's like, why do you, why are you deciding in this manner that you don't want to help people that were hit with one of the biggest wildfire tragedies ever?

2:04:04Why are you, why are you deciding to give them $700? Especially in one of the most beautiful places that our country has to even exist. Not only that, but you're not protecting them from potential land grabs. Right, because one of the things that's going on with this is like they got to do insurance, and they go through insurance, and this and that. But meanwhile, these people are still paying mortgages. So like what happens? And it's hard to figure out there, Joe, because a lot of people they live as, like second and third generations, all live in the same home. Right. And they've also a lot of, you know, how Hawaii is, they like, they'll like take little pieces of land.

2:04:38It's like, you know, people will build like something small and just live in somebody else's yard. That kind of thing. It's very like, you know, well, there's only so much land, but the problem is the land where that fire hit was very valuable. Oh, yeah, it's like this perfect like, like slope heading, looking down at the ocean. So what I would be fearful of, and if I was someone that was working in the government, that wanted to protect people from being victimized, I would say, hey, let's make sure that this land doesn't get snatched up. Right. Let's make sure that these people get their land back.

2:05:08That'd be the first thing I would say. If they all want to sell out to a resort, and they make a decision on their own, you know, that's one thing, but if they get hit with a wildfire, and then all of a sudden it takes forever for them to rebuild. They don't have the finances to rebuild. Maybe there's a struggle with insurance. Who knows? Who knows? Maybe you didn't pay your insurance that month? Who knows? And now all of a sudden this land gets snatched up, and you're like, whoa, yeah. Because if they just, like, one of the things that the governor was talking about was like, you turning it into a park or something like that.

2:05:38What did he say? Requiring it for the state. What was his exact term that he said? But he said it like right after the tragedy. It was like, dude, this is not the time to say it. It's not the time to ever say it. It's not the time to ever say you're going to take people's land and turn it into a park. Because they just got hit by a fire. So now you used to live in this amazing place with a killer view, not anymore. Now the government's going to take your land why? Because you got in a tragedy. What? Like I got double fucked. You got double fucked. You don't even get to keep the land. Like you can't even rebuild there.

2:06:10No, not anymore. There was a tragedy here. Like wait a minute. Well, I think that's a weird thing. You don't feel like as a person that your government is going to support you. I think that's, but that's probably like a feeling why. Well, that sounds like the opposite. It's like your government's trying to rob you. Right. Like, did you find it? Find the quote that he said? I got it. We got to read the quote. Because the quote is like, it made so many Hawaiians so pissed off. I told you it was so pissed off. BJ was pissed off. Yeah. Everybody was like, this is crazy. Like how can you say that right after a tragedy like this?

2:06:40Yeah, I remember I went there. I just walked up to the fire department that was up the hill from there. Oh, man. And I just walked up and I was like, hey, I would like to. Is there any way that I could go see what happened? When I was looking for it, this says that the video was shortened and it makes the comments distorted. It distorts to why governors comments about the state buying land in Lahaina. I didn't. So what are the actual what did the actual say though? I can find I'm already thinking about ways for the state to acquire that land. So that we could put it into workforce housing to put it back to families or to make it open spaces in perpetuity as a memorial to people who are lost.

2:07:20We want this to be something that we remember after the pain passes as a magic place in Lahaina will rebuild. The tragedy right now is the loss of life. The buildings can be rebuilt over time. Even the Banyan tree may survive. But we don't want this to become a clear space where then, yes, people from overseas come and decide they're going to take it. The State will take it and preserve it first. So maybe some of their goal will be to preserve it. Hold on a second, wait a second. Say that again. Scroll, doc. This is interesting. But we don't want this to become a clear space where then, yes people from overseas come and decide they're going to take it.

2:07:59The State will take it and preserve it first. I think what they're probably worried about then is the banks grabbing it so Them saying that the state could take the land might be to prevent the banks from grabbing it selling it and putting something there But it still seems like overreach if you're living in the fucking place where the state's gonna take the land Well, it'd be very scary. It's just a regular person like yeah, so I'm gonna lose so I'm either gonna lose my right Blan from to here or to here right like where am I going now or what are what are what am I doing? You know and you don't hear anything about it.

2:08:35Yeah, you don't anymore. We looked it up once There was a time where the government accidentally over sent money to Ukraine. They sent them six billion dollars It shouldn't have sent so we looked up How much would it have cost to rebuild every house in Maui from the fires? It's five billion so the extra money that they accidentally They could send to Ukraine they could have sent there and rebuilt every house and had a billion dollars left over But but we have we have give you 700 dollars unreal that's disgusting That's disgusting like if you want us to pretend that we're all on the same team You got to treat us all like we're on the same team You can't really like be throwing all this money into Ukraine and then there's places in America that suck and you're not doing Anything to help these folks like yeah It's just yeah and people people say like well your tax dollars are all affected But at a certain point it's not even about that.

2:09:24It's just like do you not? Like if I'm an American and I'm contributing to this business by being an American and being part of the system Does the system not care about me, you know, but I guess everybody thinks about that in different ways So well, I think whenever you know the system I'm out of my mind system You know systems a bunch of people and so when you have a bunch of people an enormous amount Of people it's too many people to think about as individuals you think about it as numbers And that's that's what we that's like the sort of Sociopath version of a government. They just think of you as a number.

2:10:01Yeah But when people start to lose their purpose like if you start to lose your sense of being an American These start to that's a that's big for a lot of people right like so then it's a sense of purpose right one of the Senses of purposes that feel like that we get or like having a job having a family or somebody that loves you or that you love or Having being a part of a country right being a part of a fabric of a society right and when those things start to erode Some of those things and if you don't have any other ones to back it up then people get really rogue You know well they get rogue especially if they've been told by the mainstream media forever that if one side wins You're gonna be in a right wing fascist dictatorship Yeah, that's that's fucking piss me off on our stand that that should be it should be it well The very least it's like slanderous like that's not it's not true.

2:10:50You can't back that up. It's not true Like you're saying something that we we have evidence of four years of him being a president and not doing that and we're not just mean Let's look up the actual definition, but there's a bunch of different versions of it It's usually connected to a right wing authoritarian ideology and a power of the state over people And it gets twisted around a lot because it's also you could also say it's fascist to impose imposed certain ideas on people demand certain speech which is which would make a lot of left wing people fascists as well far right authoritarian and Utilitarian ultra -nationalist Political ideology and movement characterized by a dictatorial leader centralized autocracy militarism Forcible suppression of opposition belief in natural social hierarchy subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race and Strong regimentation of society and economy opposed to and our anarchism democracy pluralism egalitarianism Litterism socialism and Marxism fascism is placed on the far right Wing within the traditional left -right wing spectrum who's all that no one is so it's like it's a bullshit Term that you're throwing on a guy who has a different political philosophy than you put it back up again, please It's like There's real fascists in the world.

2:12:18There's real. There's really dangerous people that guys not he's He's got a big ego. He says ridiculous things I'm talking about Trump It doesn't behave like a guy that you think of in a traditional sense of being the president, but no He just seems like just a older guy who kind of has like likes being Donald Trump I think you love being Donald Trump, but I think he's got some good ideas that a lot of businessmen agree with well I think you need a business man to do this. It's not a it's not a we don't live in a like this like Carebear world anymore our our politics. It's become a dirty fucking business Yeah, so you I think you want a business man in there like I don't care if somebody like somebody's attitude can the guy do business Then that's who I because it's not it's not it's all business now like we've been so it's been sold out It's like I don't feel like it's this I Don't know does that make any sense to it.

2:13:10Sorry, dude. I'm fucking having a day, man No, don't apologize. I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. Yeah, it is business But it's like you want a true businessman. I don't need Mary Poppins in there, right? I don't need somebody to tell me everything's okay. I need just like I need somebody to make our fucking food safe I need somebody to make our streets safe, right? And that's all I really need like I feel like if I'm paying taxes Then those are the things that I should expect at my FDA and that my police department which I'm paying for are gonna be able to Make sure that I can raise a family and raise them helpily and make it home from work to see my children I feel like I don't have any children yet, but I already feel you know That's what I feel like people want.

2:13:53I don't care about anything else. Yeah, I think most people feel the same way They just want to be safe and happy RFK junior tweeted something see if you can find that well Adam a K had a great great tweet Did but our arcade treated like a message to?

2:14:11What is it the RFK one yeah, I was out what is it long right yeah, yeah, yeah What's the matter bro? They're seven the worst day today. I got it right here if you want to check out it sorry Being a downer no, you're not being a downer, but you keep wasn't it this yeah, I'm sorry man look at that FDA's war on public health is about to end this includes it's aggressive Suppression of psychedelics peptides stem cells raw milk hyperbaric therapies cheerleading compounds Ivermectin hydroxide chloroquine vitamins clean food sunshine exercise Neutraceuticals and anything else that advances human health and can't be patented by pharma if you work for the FDA And are a part of this corrupt system.

2:14:51I have two messages for you number one preserve your records and number two pack your bags That's crazy about Trump winning that's what's crazy. Yeah, that's the thing. I like I just I like this people like Tulsi That's you know, that's that's the type of person you want Congress woman. Yeah for eight years like impeccable Character and then you've got the vape who's a genius you got JD Vance He's fucking brilliant as well. Oh, he's great. So you have a bunch of good people with them this go around We yeah, it's like we gotta like get people off each other's next man You know, that's what we got to do.

2:15:30We got to get people to like stop attacking each other. It's so crazy Well, I felt a sense of like even after the election was over at that probably people everything just felt kind of calm Yeah, well, it's a team thing dude. It's like your team lost It really is it's these people that are super addicted to politics They're like people who don't fall sports. Yeah, never played any games. Then this is the the way they compete They compete for the most important thing like who gets to dictate the the tone of the country right I've never expected politics to have any effect on my life, you know, even when I was a kid I didn't you know my mom told us don't ever depend on the government for anything, you know, it's like You just you have to do it.

2:16:13You just have to figure it out, you know, yeah, like they used to have some rich dude or whatever like Like our street it would like cut between like the highway and like this other road where people would go and so They had a guy who was like a veteran area or whatever and he would go down our street. He would stop and throw out like These like and he was a veteran area and he would throw like animal carcasses into our ditch and shit, right? So he's like dead cats and shit. Yeah dead animals, you know different animals. Nothing really I would say medium -sized, you know, probably 32 waist and lower, right?

2:16:49He would throw those bitches out into the hug and I guess does this get rid of him And our neighbor who was like the poor neighbor was like who gives a fuck about these people, right? A asshole totally, but we just throw them on the streets throw them in the ditch But we call the police and they'd be like yeah, we'll help and they would never come You know and my mom was like don't ever I remember telling us do not ever expect the government to fucking help you do anything You have to do shit yourself, you know also cops don't want to take dead animals and fucking pick it up and put in a bag like that So what they signed up for yeah, I don't know and then go and investigate the let's see what kind of animal was this Yeah, it was the veteran area and he would just throw those bitches and sometimes we it would be you know after they died or whatever like After they like You know after the bones got blanced to whatever the son we would fucking throw you know do like games or shit, but nothing You know throwing each other you fucking do you guys it's throwing bones in each other?

2:17:47Yeah, fuck his six ribcages area You know I bro have welcome to Haiti dude It was fucking sick a lot yeah, got immunized by the all the bacteria and finding dead animals. Yeah, yeah We had a good time but nothing like that snake head and that ditch bring that thing back up there I wonder how many fucking kids that get helicopter parent did get allergic to more shit Because they don't get exposed to things they're not crawling around Playing in dirt and shit all that stuff's brought probably got to be good for your body Right when you're little kids especially playing in dirt playing outside Oh, yeah, if you're just sheltered or whatever.

2:18:23Yeah, just for your biome. It's got to be good for you You know trying to think of what was in our biome or whatever You know I'm gonna ask my mom. I guess Yeah, that snake was crazy. That's the crazy thing to me man. I seen a snake eat something like that Do you know how many snakes there are in the Everglades? There's more pythons more pythons in the Everglades. I would guess 150. Oh, no, that's even low a bet. I would bet 200 ,000 500 That's just a rough estimation they could be off By a factor of who fucking knows they don't really know. It's dense dense dense dense jungle Yeah, and the guy you're asking is probably like here's probably five I just do it in here python cowboy.

2:19:09He goes and hunts for him He's got a dog and the dog will find the nests Let's just say that he's pulling these giant ass pythons out of nest That dog's been sexually assaulted out there. I'll say that dude. That dog's a psychopath It's going after something that can easily swallow it Yeah, that's a 77 pound deer you see that yeah, I think it's a thing is a damn sixth grader dude they'd alligator's That's great. This is the crazy thing because of the introduction of pythons into the Everglades and 90 % of all the mammals are missing There's no mammals anymore. Oh, they ate them all they ate them all This 90 % are missing how long does it how long does it take a snake to eat something that big Well, the thing is the number of snakes like it's the perfect environment for those animals Like it's like they just got dropped off and paradise nothing eats them.

2:20:00There's no crocodiles snakes. Yeah, they're living So some alligators must eat some of them, but how long does it take a snake to eat something look at this 2012 study found that populations of raccoon had declined 99 .3 percent Apostles 98 .9 percent and bobcats 87 .5 percent since 1997 Marsh rabbits cottontail rabbits and foxes effectively disappeared over that time Goddy so they've essentially eradicated all the rabbits and the foxes, but how long does it like I mean it's unbelievable But how long that Satan working as well and how long does it take how long does it take a I can't uh snake to digest like how long does it take once to get that deer That's a good question.

2:20:42I wonder I know that like is it days or is it like weeks Let's guess. Okay, um a full deer Uh one week. I say one week. Oh, that's pretty good guess. I was like antlers and shit and who's yeah, yeah Wish I guess that do you think they swallow the antlers? Do they go to for the bucks and swallow antlers? Well, I've been imagine swallowing you feel like such an asshole when the antler was going down You'd be like oh my god. I can't believe I swallowed the antler Take forever to break down He's gonna be rolling around with antlers inside your chest forever Oh, everywhere you go The revenge of that new comfortable way to sleep.

2:21:22What did I do with the antlers man? Well, they must die. I'm sure they just get to that point and the rest of the body is deep. Well the antler is just bone But it's so pokey like look at it. I would bet three weeks Isn't that the wildest thing nature does dude nature gives them weapons for a few months This is what what happens with a deer like and when they stop breeding these fall off every year So these that you find them on the ground the calm sheds You can only defend yourself while you're breeding exactly and it's offensive as much as it's defensive They run at each other and clash you see him fighting it happens all the time It's pretty fucking cool.

2:22:03They go after each other and just fuck each other up and yeah They'll see him sometimes hook together. Yeah, I mean nature's danger and make nature is really blow really One believe what's it's the number one person in the world? I saw a horrible video of these two deer that got locked together So they have clashing antlers they got locked together and one of them got eaten by a coyote So one was still alive connected to this body could have get away while the other one got torn apart by a coyote And it was just dumb luck that the coyotes picked him versus that because neither one of them can get away The coyotes recognized they were locked into each other and just picked one and went after him just gutted them That's like we're in a three somebody nobody wants to touch you kind of you know He's trying to eat one with antlers and got Got fucked up.

2:22:51Oh god. Oh, it cut his own body open Oh, it split his body wide open. Oh my god. Oh, look at his mouth He's got the antler stuck through his fucking jaw. I would hate son. I hate it when people take you Oh, he slid off of it. Wow. I hate it when people take a long time to eat, you know, we're right through him But don't you hate that they're like when you're eating and somebody um You're done eating and they're still eating That doesn't bother me at all. They're brothers. Yeah. Why? It doesn't bother me even a little bit really now. Yeah like you're in a restaurant and they're done right they're dying You have to fucking you're done and they're still just silly.

2:23:29Yeah We'll just talk to them Yeah, but then you gotta you feel like you have to pretend like you're still like scraping your bowl or whatever you know No, you're thinking too much. I think it's crazy to sit there watch somebody eat that's for you Yeah, bro. Why? Cause they're eating Yeah, but you were eating with them too. Yeah, but you're done. So what now you're just gonna fucking look at him Look at him. Yeah, like how is it? Tell me about each bite No Yeah, I just I feel like if somebody's already if I don't like I don't like when people eat real slow Okay, makes me nervous. Well, you should just like be real clear about that before you go out with someone like let's eat it Like we can eat together, but I got this thing like when I'm done.

2:24:14You're done I Imagine if you like super reasonable boyfriend in every other way, but you just had this rule when I'm done eating no one eats And she's like with this is bullshit like I know it sounds crazy. I can't kick it. It's I have a tick I have a psychological problem. I can't just hit this so when I'm done eating you have to be done And I don't eat fast. I don't eat fast, but I'm warning you when I fucking bell rings Bonapetimes up Bonapetimes up dude that would be the weirdest thing that you were obsessed with You have to you have to end at the exact same time last bite that kind of shit Yeah, I just that would make me I just yeah that kind of stuff some little things kind of make me uncomfortable dude but that uh What else is that thinking about?

2:25:06Piphons Yeah, pythons whales or whatever big animals dude It's crazy like how they have all those air being bees now where it's like you can stay in like a um Like a hollowed out whale carcass out here Like air being bees bring up some air being bees please sir They've gotten weird. It's like welcome to this. It's like oh, yeah, it's like welcome to this two story whale carcass done here at Pooota Verde, Mexico. They make up. It's like Pooota song every month or so new Pooota in Mexico. You're like what the fuck are we doing? We renamed to city every time it's like welcome to fucking Pooota pescado, Mexico You want to stay in this tube?

2:25:49You stay in that? It's a potato It's a giant potato. What is that? What did they call it? Okay, 10 weirdest air being bee listening let you sleep in a shoe and elephant and a flying saucer Yeah, let's go to the flying saucer. Oh shit. I want to stay there That's yours, dude bro if I wasn't married out of the stupidest house My house would eat one of two things. I need to have it built into the side of a hill like the hobbit Oh, yeah, that we kind of dope or I would go full -space ship. Yeah Yeah, a house where a 16 -year -old boy would see it be like dude Yeah, yeah Just appeared to the child in you like kid rocks vibe Totally rocks vibe, but kid rocks White House.

2:26:34I maintain is the coolest celebrity house. I've ever been It's one of one man. It's not just one of one. It's he's the only one that would even think about doing that So I came in maybe John daily when we build a fucking White House John daily is unbelievable dude Every time I go somewhere every time he's there he gets an ambulance take some home It's fucking Unbelievable dude Every time I'm there he like he it's almost like he hits a hole in heaven dude I'm like this motherfucker's headed one time the ambulance came he they came in to look for him He went out and sat in the ambulance to ride home with him bro And they're in the place and they're like where is he and we're like he's there's something everybody Regulation about the overweight dude who's really good at a game Dude you see that golfer girl though the girl that smokes the female John daily dude.

2:27:23No Yeah, Puffer. Oh, yeah, she's smoking cigarettes. Yeah. Yeah, she's hot. Yeah, whoa Welcome to those in love welcome to 1984. It's coming back. Let's do it Let's go because I got to get it down wife Joe Rogan that's your move get yourself a golfer wife So I'm gonna oh look at that smoking cigarettes looking hot. Yeah, let me see Whoo baby And smoking in front of everybody too. Yeah, she just rip starts on the yeah, she from England. Yeah, ah there you go Puffer McGav and they over there. They just fucking smoke they smoke a lot more over there. Everybody's got a goddamn cigarette. Oh, yeah I'll smoke that lady.

2:28:03I bet you well. Sorry. That's insane. That's how John Daley. It's like also man. She could be married Yeah, right? Don't be rude. Yeah, sorry, man. I don't know. I'm just fucking Everything's high strung today. There was a professional pool player. I want to order all kid delicious And everybody loved them because he was this big fat dude who played really good But it was the big fat guy thing that people like right. Oh, you'll have to be a fucking athlete You have to be any good to be a guy eating salads and fucking getting up in the morning doing yoga before you come to the pool hall No, this guy is out there eating hot dogs.

2:28:36That was kid delicious. Yeah It's a great book about him. Yeah, John worth time. I think his name running the table. Yeah, yeah people love short -term fats man There's something about it. You know there's a bigger guy and you know he you think he's not gonna live long There's an exceptional amount of love that goes into them immediate But John Daley back in the day wasn't fat. He's like an athlete. This is just a lifetime of like Living hard. Oh, he's a fucking right there. He was fucking stout dude. Oh, he looks you know John is an exceptional guy Great storyteller. He's a fucking he's the Santa Claus of every 7 -11 I've ever been to look at that hair And he's a guy that's been playing Golf for like how many fucking years, you know, I don't know definitely feel you must have for that ball playing professional golf or all those years Yeah, he'll hit a 68 and an ICU dude.

2:29:29This guy's one of a con I feel like you know Nobody could do it like him. He's exceptional. All he drinks his diet code Yeah, she doesn't like water Yeah, he likes things other than I'm sure but he just drink water now he's great drinks alcohol too Yeah, don't you want to state this air? Don't you want to stay in this hollowed out moose carcass out here in band Oregon Do it's it's uh, don't you want to stay in our treehouse? Where do I shit Airbnb's have gotten so crazy Don't people write out like tents and shit. Yeah, it's yeah, it's like they'll they'll supply you the tent and everything like that It's just like regular shit people like yeah, we'll go stay there, you know If you don't want to set up a tent like I like camping bomb to lazy to set up a tent.

2:30:18They'll just show up your house Pain in the butt And you look sad in front of your wife too. You're like and you're tying it down dink dink dink Oh And you're just sleeping in a little cloth house. Yeah out in the woods. Oh, my bunny Yeah, there's an Airbnb tent. That's nice dude. That's probably an Austin you can fucking this tent, bro Fuck yeah, yeah, let's go you ever did a lot of fucking outdoors or what was your life? Fuckin's way to go. I ain't scared of mosquitoes I'm an outdoor fucker whenever possible. Did you ever do anywhere you're younger? Yeah, stuck away in the woods. Me and this one girl we were fooling around the woods We never got to the actual sex part.

2:30:58We got close We got eight alive by mosquitoes. We try to get naked outside and so like literally our whole body So it's covered in mosquito bites. It was horrific. We all near a stream. Where was it more landlocked area? It was near a river Yeah, yeah, the Charles River. My guy. Yeah Kids are just going to the woods, you know, we always find kids drinking in the woods Yeah, you know like we lived in an area. I lived in Newton, Massachusetts when I was in high school and Newton is It's a great town like a really cool area and where I lived was called upper falls There was all these like woods and trees and shit and the river was right across the street from my house and It was like it was always these wild kids like playing Billy Squire on a boom box and smoking cigarettes It was like the outside or it's just It was really interesting and then one kid would get a car like oh shit Bobby's got a car.

2:31:48Oh, that's good Bobby's driving us around like rock for fiscates and the trunk just coming down the street Do this day one of my favorite cars. I have a 1970 Chevelle and I got it. Yeah. Yeah. Oh bring it up. I would like to see when I was But when I was a kid. Yeah before I had a car my friend Pick me up in his buddy's car. I didn't know the other dude. I met him like from school or something like that But I didn't know and he picked me up in this 1970 Chevelle it was black with white stripes and it was perfect and I remember I saw it as like how does he own this How can you own this? Yeah, that's how I felt like I'll sit in the back seat of the car.

2:32:29I was like this is This car is so crazy that you could own this car and I remember he ran out of gas but coasted Right into the gas station and stop the car and front it was like the coolest thing I'd ever seen the Better the guy owned that car somehow as a 16 year old boy. I was looking at this car going How did you do this? How did you do this? Let's see it No, that's that's a different car Jamie. That's my 1970 barracuda That's a beautiful. I don't think the 70 Chevelle is on anywhere But it's it's just a good google black 70 Chevelle SS white stripes Dude, there's nothing there's nothing like that's it.

2:33:14There's nothing like running at a gas and coast into the fucking pump Mine looks almost exactly like that and but that's exactly like this kids looked when he picked me up And I got a ride in this car. I was like this. That's a 69 That's another amazing car But that one up the upper one in the middle. That's my that's my actual car. That's my car. Oh wow Dude, I love that thing That's my favorite I think at all of them. I love it so much It just because it brings me back to that moment when I was a 16 year old kid and this guy had this car I was like how do you have this car? How is this even possible that you have this car?

2:33:48Yeah Oh, that was great dude if a great if I older if an older kid picked you up when you were a kid and he had a car that was like Getting into like somebody who had a car's car when you couldn't even have a car was the craziest feeling after you couldn't believe it Yeah, you were like the things that we completely take for granted like your buddy picks you up and give you a ride like What's up? What's up? How's it going? I it's normal for you now like oh, I'm just sitting the back seat in my friend's car But back then it was like whoa Whoa, how to what do you yeah? Hey play something cool in the radio everything meant something I remember my friend Mike was taking flying lessons when I was in high school and I went up in an airplane with him when I was 14 he we're both 14 and he was taking flight lessons when I was NING NING NING NING I was like what the fuck I'm letting this 14 year old kid fly me around with him in a plane and an instructor Yeah, but back then like you would just you just do so thrilled just to get out of your fucking house You'd hop in your buddy's back seat like where are we going?

2:34:53Yeah, I don't know man. We're gonna go to Bobby's house All right, you're listening to songs on the radio you couldn't believe you were in a car Yeah, and it mattered like if your hand was out the window the window was down if the window was up How you were operating if the seatbelt was on if your arms are over this yes You want to look cool on hand the steering wheel one hand out the window And you thought everybody you drove past looked at you subkids. Yeah, yeah, what's up kid? Just looking for some Hey, I remember this was one day is man when I was in high school. There's this one dude who was like He I think he was a couple of years older than us and he graduated But he was dating a girl that still went to the high school and he had an i Rock Z Demaro with the teetops are now I'm gonna have the teetops and this dude pulled in from the high school when everybody like couldn't believe it He was like the coolest guy alive look at him in his i Rock Z picking up the girl at none of us can date We saw new Chou Yeah, god, I fucking remember that shit dude.

2:35:58I remember my brother one time fucking I got more the story Sorry, go on that dude who had that i Rock ran over a guy accidentally and dragged them Through the city for miles Just tried to like get the body out from under his car a couple times, but couldn't do it, but just kept driving So driving around this i Rock Z with a person stuck under the car Driving from miles I hate that kind of thing you ever had like a bag stuck under your car or whatever. Yes, that's different I feel like if you drive over someone maybe pull over hey Maybe pull over but I don't know What do you do at that point? There's like guys that you hear about from high school It's like you feel like you're in a steven king book like yes by me or something like that, you know Oh totally everything felt like kind of the steaming king vibes back then, you know Well, it's just people just disappeared back then and there was no phones and there was no internet And you barely remembered people if you didn't see him for a month.

2:37:04Yeah, like you didn't even have a picture I have like five pictures of my friends from high school, you know And mostly because my friend jimmy sends them to me, but it's like you don't remember You don't remember what anybody looked like you don't remember anything But now Too much and now you know everything but back then it's like you would hear about this like one of you One of the guys you went to high school with he got in trouble and like oh no now he's in jail. Whoa He's hot in jail. Yeah, whoa. I remember I met this one dude who just got out of jail Yeah, it was friends of my friend the first guy I ever met that was in jail Yeah, just the weirdest vibe the I had a buddy of mine who actually I was a trainee partner mine who was one guy He was like this one way and then he went to jail in drug charge and he came out like three years later It was a totally different person.

2:37:52Oh wow. He was super jacked I don't know if they were he was doing steroids or what but he was like really jacked and fucking aggressive and Super dangerous and he was telling me these stories about jail and about all the the fights that he had gotten into in jail And he got like almost like a fight to the death with the a mob stick in this guy He was telling me these horrific fights and it had just changed him man I mean I'd never experienced something like that before where I knew a guy before he went to prison And then I knew him after prison and he was just a completely different person and fucking very dangerous to spar with Like very dangerous like you we try to kill you we would have We would have wars like they weren't really sparring matches.

2:38:36They were fights People were yeah, some people got dangerous dude, especially if they got on the drugs or got on the gear You know this guy this guy I think was both. I think he was on He was on gear and I think he was doing coke because I know he was selling coke I always getting coke for girls and stuff like that. He wound up. Yeah, he wind up dying But here's here's where it gets really crazy While I knew this guy like while he was training at the same gym as me He got arrested and questioned in this murder where this guy who was an informant They I think he was an informant they they found him where he had been repeatedly injected with cocaine To keep him alive while they were breaking his bones So from him blacking out from the pain they were injecting him with cocaine to keep him awake and conscious while they were breaking his bones with a hammer I think then they I think they cut his hands in his head off too and he got Some of another he got implicated or at least questioned about that.

2:39:39I was like, yeah Imagine even being in the other room while that's going on Yeah, you know even try and watch a show or what I like I just like here You're like keep it down Can't you guys insulate your torture house? It's fucking up the rest of the neighborhood. Yeah, I mean what the fuck dude I would never be able to torture somebody. I don't think I would be able I'm trying to think of the things I could do to somebody You might be able to do something someone did something to your loved ones. I think we'd be surprised We're like a mother would do if she caught some person doing something to one of her children.

2:40:17Yeah, you know, and a father too Oh, yeah, but I mean even mothers who you wouldn't think of as being like violent And do you think that's a choice they make or you think it's something that's just inside of us And you there's a choice too, but it's inside of you. You're like we have instincts to protect our kids You know, and you you can get crazy violent. Yeah, normal regular people can get crazy violent to protect their children And it also seemed like there's a lot of cases now where people are Deceasing their own children Killing their own children. Yeah, there's always been that man. There's always been evil people But it's just crazy.

2:40:50You know, have children. Yeah, man. Just people that poison their kids There's there's evil people out there and in every You know stretch of the world you're gonna get a certain percentage of our population that just doesn't come out right You know, and that's normal. It's like everything. There's always a percentage that's just not right. Yeah There's hopefully not well whatever that's struggled that the human race is involved in is if you wanted to break it down And I just feel soft. It's essentially a struggle between good and evil always. It's always a struggle between good and evil Yeah, and you're always going to have a certain amount of evil that you have to overcome And I think that amount of evil that you overcome should be small But I think it it enforces this idea to do good And that good conquer is evil if everybody works together cooperatively But you need something if you don't have resistance It feels like people what the way we're designed to constantly try to innovate and make better things and improve upon society and prove upon our own lives We're always like trying for progress, right?

2:41:50I think that's all sort of tied in to competition and competition needs of a foe you need an antagonist and a protagonist you need resistance Yeah, and I think the unfortunate thing is that there is evil in the world the fortress thing The fortunate thing is that evil makes you appreciate love and it motivates people to stop evil Yeah, it motivates people to limit evil You know like the calls for law and order in this country like during the the riots remember Whenever it was like we need a new order. We need law and order you can't have just people breaking into things and stealing everything in law and order Like that that kind of stuff is like That that's that that's good versus evil It's evil to just smash windows and steal things in the name of some guy that you don't know who died in justly That's crazy.

2:42:35You know, you're just using this as an opportunity because they fuck everyone You can't have people just running around saying fuck everyone and lighting things on fire. You can't have that Yeah, you just you can't have that So like when you encounter These different things it makes you appreciate not having those things so it motivates you one of the things It got people excited about Trump being in office is that he wanted to get away from all this defund the police shit He wanted to get the country back to law and order he wants us to Increased manufacturing increase and all the things that make people feel good about the future.

2:43:11I'll give you purpose Yeah, and They didn't feel that way about the message that we're healing they were hearing from the other side They they felt like it was gonna be more the same shit and more the same shit doesn't get anything done We still keep getting involved in these wars that we don't want to be involved in yeah shut it down Shut down everything it doesn't have to do with us. I feel like for a while It's like there's just a lot of stuff that we haven't even healed from in this country, you know Yeah, that's the biggest thing I think there's a lot of things that we haven't healed from that we should try to address as a group You know, and that could be like um You know everything from Native American times slavery times opioid epidemic.

2:43:49There's tons of things. I feel like that. It's like and I don't know how you do that I mean, I know time has a lot to do with it, but it's like I just don't know if Setting our resources elsewhere is the most important thing right now when it's like um we could I think try at least Trump thinks he can fix these overseas conflicts. I don't know if he can But the point is like something has to be done. Yeah, we can't just keep throwing money at war and ignoring ourselves That seems crazy And if you're saying we're not ignoring ourselves while we're not spending the the money and the resources that we need to fix all the problems that we have Well, yeah, it's like even if you look at like um, you know recently I learned Sorry recently.

2:44:29I learned that like um the number one cause of medical debt is insurance Is Um medical debt is the number one cause of bankruptcy in America, right? Is it really? Yeah, that's crazy That makes crazy that It's such a laundering system that goes on there. It's the money laundering well Yeah, but the thing is those and insurance companies. Yeah, there's definitely me to talk to Brigham Bueller from waste well Explain to you. Yeah, I went there the other day. He's the man. I went to Kuyah and I went there dude I've been trying to get well while I'm here. I'll try to get good well. It's been tough.

2:45:03Oh, but we're just talking about Medical debt. Yeah, he'll explain it real well. It's like it's a you know, it's kind of a fucked -up system But it just makes sense that that would be the number one reason why people would go bankrupt because you're out of work Because you got a medical issue then you have medical bills If you don't have insurance you really fucked you don't have insurance like woo But it's just a scam like the prices for our drugs are so much more than other countries Just things that it's like our government doesn't want to make better deals because there is this middle man That's making a lot of money off of it, you know There's that you know, I don't know.

2:45:35There's definitely a lot of influence with a lot of money I don't know. Also companies that we need you know Pfizer makes good stuff I mean these companies make really beneficial drugs too. Yeah, but it's just the problem with all these fucking people is They just want to make more money constantly and if they get you taking more pills than you need they will That's how they sell they want to sell pills they can come up with a reason. Are you anxious? I am a little hey Here you go and next thing, you know you're dependent Yeah, it's like you have two legs you've been on a bicycle like the things are just crazy, you know to give it Yeah, you have read oatmeal praising cookies.

2:46:13You're like, well fucking this is me. I think we uh, we we can't let them advertise That's still gonna buy the drugs, but the advertising thing is crazy because it affects the media too It affects what people are allowed to investigate it affects what the The news is because the news is not gonna give you everything they're not they're gonna conveniently ignore things that would affect their Their partnerships. Yeah, yeah, if you have a yeah, it's all advertising. Yeah, what would we say was again the amount of billions of dollars They spend every year on advertising Pharmaceutical drug companies Did you um where you Did where you nervous about endorsing Trump or now?

2:46:51I usually try to stay out of it. Yeah, but I felt like I was getting urged to by Dana and Every there's quite a few people. I didn't think it makes a difference I kind of already stated what I thought about the way things were going and That some radical change need to take place. Yeah In my opinion, I just I'm not buying like you know when we're talking about before with the way the country feels Like the way the country felt when Biden was in office was shaky Because regardless of what you thought about his policies what what you did in place It was real clear something was wrong with him and they were lying to us.

2:47:29Oh, yeah, but that so that alone makes the whole country feel uneasy Right even if you think that the administration is moving certain policies and certain things are moving in the right direction The economy's moving in the right general direction even if you agree to those things when you have a guy that's at the front that's obviously Some in some way compromised or something going on something going on that they don't want to admit Everybody knows it and he drifts off and he says things don't make sense and Something's wrong so everybody feels uncomfortable even if everything's going well, right because For good or for bad That person that's in that office kind of sets a tone for the country and the tone for the last four years was confusion So Regardless of their policies the tone that's being established whenever he talks or whenever she does interviews or she talks is a confusing talk There's word salad and then you know, there's like these moments where it seems like she doesn't know how to wrap up a sentence Which can just be nerves it can just be nerves talking for the large groups people doesn't mean she's not brilliant It doesn't it really doesn't some people yeah, she was new and kind of thrown into it But some people clam up when they have to do those things But then there's the argument that's the job though you have to be able to do that because you're gonna have to be able to talk to Putin and you know Presidents of these different countries and leaders throughout the world you got to be able to handle pressure So that's kind of part of it too kind of part of it too is you got to be able to handle pressure But the thing that people worry about Trump is that he's so antagonistic You know and that then that's the tone of the country and the tone of the country is not like the Ton of the Obama administration I always felt was the best because he was measured never attacked anybody was very Articulate and smooth.

2:49:18Yeah smooth. There was not a lot of ums and like some people they Trump throws too many extra words in but it's just his flavor his flavor. He's easy rambles He goes all over the place like I joke look at this hair. What is wrong with my hair? He makes fun He's like doing stand -up up there. Obama was the smoothest and Clinton Clinton was pretty fucking smooth too Let's maybe Clinton and Obama those are the goats So like when you get a person for good or for bad that's smooth and talks like a professional like an actual president It makes everybody like oh He's got this this guy's a real professional real professional president like look at him With Trump you like I hate Taylor Swift like no Don't do that don't say that Yeah, you got the wrong button today, buddy He tweeted out that this is that lady that he allegedly slept with was you call her horse face Why is the president?

2:50:11I think so crazy to do it's fun real but for a lot of like super sensitive people and progressive people That's why they want to believe that he's Hitler right? They want to believe they they look at these things and then they they don't look at it as like a flavor in the soup like look It's all pepper. No, it's not all pepper like peppers apart of it Yeah, he probably shouldn't tweet. I hate Taylor Swift, but whatever yeah What's important is like what is he gonna do in terms of fix all these problems that everybody agrees are real problems Yeah, and can he do it and he can he can he keep all these people in his staff rfk jr I don't know.

2:50:44I don't know if you do it But I'm kidding. It can at least we have hope If rfk really does the things that we think he wants to do and starts to kind of clean up some of the crops and Exciting it'd be exciting. It would be good for you bill If we stop putting ingredients and foods that are illegal in Canada because they're dangerous How about we stop doing that here? Yeah, seems like a logical thing. It's not like fruit loops in Canada sell that less Yeah, it's probably equal sales and people would get unaddicted quick You're really just getting people addicted to things, you know And how about we prosecute that fucking sackler family that fucking killed hundreds of thousands of people in our country How about that?

2:51:17How about that? Yeah, well you saw the whole thing where they were trying to buy immunity Huh, they were trying to buy immunity They were gonna have like a settlement where they give x amount of billions of dollars But then they were immune to prosecution, but in that what they did though But I think what happened was they put a pause on that after the Netflix documentary came out wow And that was we talked about it once, but I don't know where it's at now But that family they made billions of dollars by getting people hooked on opiate Unfuckin this family is mass murderers. Yeah, if they anybody with the last night They should I don't give I kick that gene pool out of our fucking country those people are fucking murderers dude I think a lot of people still haven't gotten over that shit and do you know?

2:51:57That was the same family that was involved in volume. Yeah, I do know that mother's little helper. That was volume That's was ladies in the fucking Heartless and fucking lizard to get those motherfuckers out of here And that's one thing that was one of the reasons why I was like supportive of events like you know like um I just believe he has a soft spot for that type of thing and I hope that it'll get I don't know if he can do anything because lobbies are so big now wasn't someone in his family and addict Yeah, his mother suffered from addiction, you know, right, but um, he's just seen it, you know I'm sure that the sacrifema was involved in the valium thing.

2:52:31I don't want to have to edit that Out If I call them a piece of shit about one thing, but hey, we were in a piece of shit about that other thing. I think they were though I just that's like even thinking about her brother makes me so angry, you know Cuz you know the family and member uh, yeah, Arthur Sackler member the sacrifema was a major figure in the promotion of valium through direct marketing to physicians in the 1960s Yeah, that is it so same family. Yeah, evil evil. It's literally evil like it just destroying lives It's the devil. It's the devil. It's a drug dealer. It's one of the worst drug dealers because you're sneaking around with doctors You sneaking around under the you know this this guys of authority Well, one of the problems is that the safety you work for a politician right in in In DC right they can only pay you so much money by law Right to work with them and be like help put their bills together right so at a certain point the lobbyists Can pay more to those same people who have been writing bills For the congressman and for the senators so they then go to work as lobbyists That's one of the biggest problems right so a lot of it is that we have a cap on certain salaries right And that we also have a law that a lot we also don't have a law that Stops people once you work for one side that you can't work for the other right right That's the thing with the FDA and pharmaceutical company and I'm not saying that does I don't know the answer I'm just saying that that's one of the thing that's one of the reasons why that happened It's a conflict of interest right for sure and it's just nobody regulated it They allowed it to happen yeah, it should be if you are working for the FDA should never be able to leave and go to a pharmaceutical drug company We then make incredible amounts of money That seems like a conflict of interest like you would be willing to do if you had had conversations with these people And they'd say listen you nice to us in a couple of years Gold and parachute You want a yacht?

2:54:23I think you need a yacht and next you know You're a millionaire like which is bizarre that you can do that It's just as bizarre as the whole insider trading in Congress You know that a bill is going to get passed you know this bill is going to affect a stock you gamble high on that stock The bill gets passed And you make a lot of money that Seems illegal that seems illegal. Yes, cheating that seems crazy But there's a lot of those things man and this this system was set up by people and people are flawed right That's a good point. Yeah, it's like nothing no one's going to do anything perfectly.

2:54:57I don't know Well, it's not just that accountability and transparency in terms of like what's actually going on is Way different now because our access to information is way different now like anybody can just sort of Google budgets and Google this and you find out that And you find out things about the Pentagon and that about this like there's just it's you don't have to look in the New York Times anymore Right, you know, you don't have to wait for the news to come on at five now you get it whenever you want it And that's sort of changed everything with what you can get away with and not get away with So for the longest time even though there's rules and the Constitution set up in the Bill of Rights There's been people that have had a lot of power for a long time without a bunch of people looking at them And now more people are looking at them than ever before and then you get this guy like Trump comes in like To war with the CIA is like that drunk uncle dude Bro, what about baron Trump dude?

2:55:56No, there's no credit like whatever you think about this election I the whole thing to me is fascinating first of all Because Dana white made so much stuff happen. Oh, yeah, right? I mean, a white made the Trump thing happen for sure. He was a little He was trying to get me to have Trump on in like 2017 bro you would hear rumors of that in the distance Right, he would call me up. You call me up Joe Listen the president wants to do your podcast. I go you mean Trump I got to change the name of it. What are you doing man? Wait try to get me in trouble You know and back then I was like I don't want to be a part of this There's too many people are angry too many people pissed off was like I don't need to and I didn't pay attention to it enough I didn't pay attention to um the way they were Miss representing things that he had said enough.

2:56:44Yeah, I didn't really I my wake up call was when they went after me When CNN went after me. I was like yeah, this is crazy. I'm taking a veterinary drugs pitch. Yeah Like what the fuck are you talking about? This is the dumb also Why you upset that I got better quick like what is this about like that? I took veterinary drugs and got better quick And why in the article hey, why wouldn't you herald it say hey? This could be a possibility You know, it's like I'm not only that it's just the there's no way they didn't know that it was for humans Those people it's all a sick but but when I saw that and that was so minor in comparison the way they've come up to Trump Because they come out to Trump with lawsuits and all kinds of crazy shit And I don't think he's a perfect person I think he's fun and I think he's a very competitive guy Which is why you like playing golf so much and just why he wouldn't quit until he became the president again And he pulled it off.

2:57:32Yeah, and the best thing that I've heard from people on the left is it's not the result that we wanted But we hope the country can come together and I think we should all have that mentality Yeah, this idea that we're all separate. We're on team USA And I think we should just like all publicly state nobody gives a fuck where you're from What you do you're on team USA. We're all in this shit together. That's it. Oh, yeah That's it. Let's forget about all this Identity politics nonsense and all like but is that gonna happen you think? If at least we can put that thought out there instead of everyone's racist everyone's a Nazi every yeah It's that that ain't helping nobody you just pushing people further and further away The people that used to identify as left.

2:58:17They've been forced to these sort of center right positions Just to maintain normalcy. Yeah, when you're beginning puberty blockers to kids and you're opening up gender affirming care clinics and treating kids like Shut the fuck up. You're not on the right side. You think you're on the right side because you think you're being compassionate What you're doing is crazy to most people and we don't want it And we think you're you might be like in a cult like you're it's a giant cult of leftists that think crazy things And they're allowing all sorts of bizarre things to happen in society like the no cash bail thing like things you think are good You know structural racism is why there's so many people in prison right?

2:58:54Yeah, but you can just let people out of shoot people Right, you can't just have people robbing people and right back out on the street. You can't have that You can't have that you'll have a full deterioration of society and no one will thrive and you'll be under Chaos you'll be like living in the favelas of Rio de Janeiro in just a decade You can't just keep this trend going you're gonna fall apart and it's these Idealistic utopian people that want these things to happen these people that believe that Marxism has never been effectively done But it can be done that put you know that there's there's a version of All of these different communist philosophies.

2:59:29Yeah, you can imply there's socialism that could work Right, there's a version of it that can work and making more equitable for everybody The end of that is always one thing. It's totalitarian control over what you say and do Because as soon as you want to redistribute funds as soon as you want to tell people they can't have things anymore Then you're gonna have to take it from them. Yeah, well, I think like to me everything kind of started to feel like this privatized communism Right like once the post office didn't work. I was like the government's fuck dude I was like these bastards can't even get a package to fucking Toledo in two days dude, you know like But it really did though is that there's like UPS now right but it all but you go in there dude It's like a west and there's server liquor at the counter like it's down.

3:00:14Yeah, it's a post office It's gone downhill. Yeah, right? I mean they don't put a You could probably score a gram up there at the cat like it's got it's gone The other doors is no hinges on it's got dude. It's the Wild West over there. It's post office you go new bro every post office Brawl of them are bad bro it 75 % of the post offices are it's gotten but I just use that as an example of like a A government it just like started to fall apart right the last time I saw post office Was the last election those last time on a post office well? Yeah, it last election Why I mail in my California ballot?

3:00:50Yeah, and how many I know it 20 million of them apparently How many oh And at that time was a balloon at what is that like at least Cause for concern that leap in numbers. Yeah What is it now Jamie? Do we know what the official numbers are now The California one hasn't really I don't know why hasn't updated more California's they're digging in their heels. They don't want to make the election real I don't think either one of these parties is what the people would say like Democrat They're not the same parties it was 15 years ago most people are waking up to that That's why if you look at the map of California new going on look at the map of California red and blue from 2016 and then look at it from or rather 2020 and then 2024 Is a giant difference a giant I mean a giant difference a giant difference in the amount of counties that went red Yeah, it's just the big population centers are always gonna be blue They're they're in the trance if you're in San Francisco and if you're in Los Angeles You're in the trance like 70 % of those people are in the trance.

3:01:50There's this They also believe things that mean something to them so they're not like because Right, but socially they're connected to all these ideas, you know, and socially they're all like hyper liberal They're socially locked into like this mindset. It doesn't allow questioning Narratives doesn't allow questioning these ideas. So like the idea of questioning science was like there's no way you're Where science deny? Yeah, I can be a science time. You couldn't even say like hey, are you sure that these companies Who have been lying their entire careers? They've been fucking hit with these giant criminal penalties for for lying We know they lie you sure they're telling you the truth about this drug when they they haven't injected Giant swaths of the population with it before but they're gonna do it now.

3:02:35Yeah, and they promise it's gonna work Yeah, and then they're lying about the promises. They're lying about whether it stops transmission They never even tested for that. They lie and from whether or not it stops you from being infected They didn't test for that either Well, the same people that own this own the publication company. It's just starting to be so obvious. It's like I don't know It's just money man. It's just money. That's what it is. What point does money Because if you get over the fact of somebody's peace of mind and health and wellness like that's the thing I don't understand because they've used their money wisely to connect it to an ideology So this is what it is if you're a vaccine skeptic or a vaccine Denier even if it's not even really a vaccine.

3:03:14I mean you're calling it a vaccine But that's kind of a sneaky move because it doesn't really work like a regular vaccine does it works completely novel It's a completely new thing and um if you can connect that with the people that's the The logical educated people that are reasonable and convince them That you can't look at it sideways you can you can never examine it. You can never question it You never question whether or not it's even necessary You just have to go with it. You can't question whether or not these other therapeutics that all these doctors have these anecdotal stories How about people recovering from these antivirals and trying them you can't you got to reject that because it's crazy Because you have that you are emergency use authorization thing that wasn't cool man I never took it and guess what doing great, you know Yeah, I'm depressed suffering from depression.

3:03:58Yeah, you've got a lot of issues and back pain today But you are suffering from the problem a lot because still You're not hanging around with us. Come hang out here man. Come move I know that she has been busy man. I want to I'm well if you lived in town You'd be hanging out all the time. I know you feel better you feel better You need a little community. I know you dude you get weird when you buy yourself too long you get weird Oh, and I spend a lot of time by myself, you know, I thought you called a check to see if he was still like you Did I do that? Yeah, fuck That's most of my childhood did I really do that what time you did oh Yeah, I believe that what are you talking about?

3:04:35Yeah, man, it's a point of make sure we're cool Oh, I believe that I'm like of course we're cool. Like what are you talking about what happened? Nothing did we ain't talk for a while? Wow did I really do yeah, yeah, yeah, I believe you 100 % yeah, it was it was a weird conversation Fuck that story in my life, dude, but I I want people to make sure okay Yeah, but I know you man, so when you call me I'm like all three of them just need some love, you know You're out there in the woods by yourself Can't be alone man. Well, I think part of me. I wanted to do I've always just wanted I wanted to do like my own thing, you know, but then you start to realize that there's That you yeah, you're doing it by yourself And I think that goes for like whether it's work relationships or Personal relationships to you know, I think it's just like it's been the same psychology for me, you know like I'm the great.

3:05:23I'll think it's kind of me thought about this. I'll think to myself. I want to be in a relationship But I want to do it on my own I just realized that's amazing But it's that's how there's something it just like you can marry yourself people do that. Oh, I would hate that dude I'm always just chasing myself and jerk me off I would go and get any sleep Oh, yeah, nice there that would be a real problem Yeah, yeah, man, there's I uh, I do admit I do like want to be around a group more this year's has been so it's like By yourself, but you are doing it by yourself, right? So you're doing your podcast by yourself You're doing it you stand up by yourself the thing about like a club is you're doing it by yourself while everybody else Also doing it by themselves right so you're around the same thing, but you're hanging out You're having fun.

3:06:16You're you're charging up your love batteries. Yeah, that's what it is You know, the other night even just being there be able to laugh with Tony and like like Ron white was right there You got Brian Simpson You got Kurt Metzger everybody's just watching and dancing and figuring things out And then the fucking What corner you with them is gonna spirit. Oh, did he ever get you? Did he get you? Oh, yeah, he drowned me. He took me in a rabbit hole. Oh, well, he was a listener dude. I don't have to run I got caught underwater river. He helped me under bro He took me to the fucking I don't I go Kurt I don't even remember the original conspiracy theory that led us to this mind control study that I should have known about You don't know about that Jesus Giant dudes.

3:07:08He's like looming over you like conspiracy is fucking crazy eyebrows He's like you don't know about the van a white conspiracy. You don't know what's behind the ease You don't know what's behind the ease Here's the thing dude until he's what Jimmy door. He's what about kind Jimmy doors cool. Huh? Never got to I got I got to see him for years But I've always been like kind of admirable about him. He's a great dude. He's a great dude Um, but uh before he started working for Jimmy He didn't really have a lot of conspiracies in his head. You know, it was like he got sort of exposed to all that worker for Jimmy and doing that show And he's like oh my god this whole fucking thing is rigged and then he just get rabbit hole after rabbit hole after rabbit hole That dude will send you a text and if you send him a text back He will send you a chain of thoughts doctrine.

3:07:56Yeah, like a scroll I want to save them. I want to save them Because like that would be a cool almost like a book to publish. Oh, it's text with Kurt people would love that too I love how passionate he is about stuff Um, he's a smart dude man. Yeah, he's very very smart dude. It was fun. Yeah, that was just fun to see who else was there just like um Brian Simpson a son of a son was there There's the best dude because you tell any joke if it's good or not you can look at Derek and if he's laughing It's good. Yeah, he's just like a great green room hang. Yes, there's no He'll let you know on his face immediate.

3:08:34He's the to me. He's the be all -in -doll of something's funny It's a great person. He's like just a nice guy to be around. He's a that's like the beautiful thing He is very funny. This is a beautiful thing about the club is that there's so many nice people. Yeah It just like I said you charges up your love batteries. What's we all need in this world? We'll need a little more a little more fun and I'm just hoping that Trump doesn't start attacking people. That's what I'm hoping I'm hoping that he just and I know people around him want him to do that just concentrate on the positives Yeah, concentrate on the positives.

3:09:04You got four years to do all sorts of things that could really benefit people And then you will be remembered as that guy Well, I just want people to tell us what's really going on If they can't really do anything because lobbyists are controlling everything I wish somebody would just tell us that well I think if anybody's gonna. It's him especially now and especially with access to podcasts Right, so if he decides to do your podcast two months after he's in office and you have questions like that All of a sudden Trump could probably tell you whatever it's not top secret. He could probably tell you He said he's gonna release the JFK files.

3:09:35We're gonna find out a lot of things We're gonna find a lot of things We're gonna find out whether or not he's gonna really keep RFK junior as a part of his organization or whether he's gonna get pressure From pharmaceutical drug companies or whoever to not if he loses him dude. He's getting some problems. That's not cool It's not cool. So there's that and then there's is he gonna release the JFK files Because he was told that it's he shouldn't release them that it's he said some of the people were still alive Which doesn't totally make sense? Because that was 1963 so most likely most of those people would be dead of old age.

3:10:10Yeah, you know But What does it mean though when someone says that that means that someone from the government could be implicated in the murder of the former of the president So if that's true then would it be that they're worried that it would erode All confidence in the intelligence agencies or are they worried that deeper investigations would take place And then it's people start saying well what happened with Martin Luther King You know because that was one that Mike Baker who's a former CIA guy was saying that one like he Investigated for a show because that one doesn't make any sense that guy just started getting money He was a loser his whole life all said he had money in nowhere.

3:10:50No, though the guy killed them. Oh Who was it James Earl Reeves James Earl Ray maybe James Earl Ray James Earl Ray so that guy Mike Baker broke it down for us I don't remember exactly But essentially what he's saying is that that guy was a drifter who was a loser You know in that a jail that kind of a guy and then all said and he has access to money He's standing in a nice place and he has a gun Like what's going on like he thinks that they set him up to kill Martin Luther King that someone finance that which is Most likely that makes sense well back then you could kind of kill somebody and it was um Easier, you know think about like the Wild West right like they drew if you killed somebody They drew a picture of you right Wanted I have to shave your mustache You fucking I'm looking for a guy with a mustache you could book You can't put on glasses Where do you go He killed my whole family where guys got glasses.

3:11:52I can't be him But you could literally go across the fucking behind a boulder shave come back to the town get a job as a sheriff And look for yourself Imagine how gross it must have been to come to some like fucking weird a battle back then weird brothel town with a saloon And you just smell like shit you've been riding on the back of a horse for three days and you just wander into this weird Fire lit community Did you know James or already escaped prison before he supposedly killed Or not got on the hall worked out but oh really he yeah you were singing Get to the skies. He's chained. He got like a nose job.

3:12:37Oh boy But he also got a driver's license made it to Mexico. Oh, he's in prison. He's working at the Kroger's wow He attempted to establish himself as a pornographic film director. Yeah, he's in mail order equipment Who hasn't break after a quarter of an eight ball who hasn't oh? They sound like a fucking psychopath Yeah, he's considered emigrating to Rhodesia now's in Bobway where predominantly white minority regime had unilaterally assumed independence from the United Kingdom in 1965 Wow Yeah, then nose job. Yeah, and then went to Atlanta and then very quickly Started to pop it up. Yeah, I decided to do what he did Yes, tough man the heat down there is just fucking ruins everybody those drive people not Yeah, especially we got that cat parasite You know then they're all moving around your head like Have you seen uh that show from on Amazon Prime?

3:13:43I haven't pretty good. Yeah, you know what I'm watching though on Netflix What is it three -body problem? Yeah, I haven't seen it. I've been hearing people say it. It's really good It's by the people who made game of thrones. Oh really? It's really good. I'm like totally unique Like I don't want to tell you much about it. It's a science fiction, but it's it's totally unique You watch it and you're gonna go oh shit The first thing like why is he going on here? Yeah, but after a while like oh shit. I'm on episode four now Fuck dude, and there's not gonna be a season two for like Yeah, I tell you some of this shit.

3:14:18Well like stranger things those motherfuckers are making a movie every week You know right they're making a one -hour movie every week Which is like so much better than a movie You know like game of thrones is better than any movie that's ever existed 100 % it's so good And it's just one episode leads into the next one into the next one. Oh shit. I can't believe she did that. Oh Fuck he's dead now. Oh shit. Oh with his head fucking they killed the king in the very first episode on real alert And they handicap that kid out the gate member right out the gate fuck usually it's second season before you get a handicap kid and That's what blue my mind dude was fucking his sister and you know anybody and no That's crazy, but back then the warning me rules.

3:15:05Where they're I think you're never supposed to be fucking your sister. I think that That's like back to caveman times Right, I'm sure there's something in most people that feels like hey, that's not right. Let's shut it down. Let's go outside instead Well, that's like people always thought about that with rural communities You know what the people say this a lot. I mean, I'm from obviously Louisiana people say all you know They're always like you see you know you ever fucked your sister. Yeah And the thing what happened was people didn't live close to each other so if you you're not gonna travel You're only gonna travel so far To you have a kidding for fucking sisters fuck no, I'm not what he says.

3:15:46He seems like that's what you're doing No, I'm saying this is what happened back then People aren't gonna try people aren't gonna get a train ticket to come you know They're gonna people are only gonna have sex with in a certain distance of their right good call right That's why it happened right, you know, it's like if a guy it's like no one there right There's nobody there so they had a fuck their sister They didn't have to but at a certain point they got lost and ended up back at right by the house, you know, I like Something's got to happen here I'm not saying it's cool. I'm just trying to tell you how it works out like you know Well, that's how it works out in the mammal kingdom Yeah, give you a puppies the boy puppy will fuck a sister.

3:16:26Yeah, 100 % he doesn't even think twice. He'll try to fuck you They try to fuck your leg. They don't even know what they're doing. Oh, yeah Did I stay to my buddy Brad's house one night right we're dead asleep right and They let a bunch of puppies loose dude those things that fucking gang banging you I don't know what chance dude. I don't know fucking ounce of milk on me those things are fucking me off Funny like we don't think that about people right the second it's crazy how it goes from animals to people man Yeah, we're animals We're animals do you think there's a certain purpose for us like we there's a magical purpose for us?

3:17:01Or do you think we are just an anomalous well? I think even if there's not This is a magical time It's an interesting time and especially for people like us they get to talk to so many fascinating people I mean we have a really cool job not just as comics, but also as doing podcasts, you know, and you've I think you've got a great education doing that, you know a great like you're you see more introspective You're more curious about things than you know, I remember before you like I think it did the same thing to me really yeah, yeah, I must feel like I know why I wish I didn't know more stuff Sometimes I miss knowing nothing right yeah, I get any sense to you for sure I know I have my brain is filled with shit that I don't need oh, yeah, you're a library dude You know the the thing like a red box we were in that one movie We haven't been doing it as long.

3:17:52I've been doing it a lot longer. That's all it is It's just it's the amount I do too. It's numbers, but you're you have a you are You're a library You know, there's a certain types of people that can make it through certain things and you wouldn't want to educate a child on this library This is not there's not a library you'd love everybody to have access to no it's 16 and older I think there's a lot of stuff in my head I was like god. I wish I didn't know that about people, you know Oh, that's interesting you don't think about the side effects of somebody being able to have like a memory that records so much Well, it's just you always concentrate on the worst possible aspects of people And so if you know so many Acts and things that people have done that have been horrific You're always like the back your head always has but maybe that could happen, you know like so it always sits there It always sits there if you're a completely You grow up omniscient some shit.

3:18:46You like completely removed from society. You never see any violence You never see anything and then also and you have to go to a bar like downtown Detroit on a Saturday night You see fist fights and people throwing glasses at each other like you'd be like what the fuck is this? I'm not ready for this. I'm not prepared for this, you know Right, but if you but if you know that exists and it's always a possibility So if you see it too much even if you don't see it in real life the worst thing is seeing it real life that's where we're talking earlier about cops um Yeah cops are seeing it every day in real life So you you just get like super accustomed to seeing people dead Super accustomed to seeing people get injured Yeah, it's crazy how therapists make like a hundred fifty bucks and it's crazy how therapists make like a hundred fifty Dollars an hour, right?

3:19:31Right, but cops who are basically therapists that also have to shoot it Right make 40 bucks an hour. I know like that's crazy. Do you think about that crazy? And nobody wants that job It is crazy, but if you paid them like heroes I feel like that they would more more fucking gladiars would show up and do it Yeah, and they would have a real force out there, you know And you would fall asleep at night knowing that severe warriors were taking care of your fucking community Yeah, so you think that's possible or not? People don't want to know that we need that They don't want to kind of believe that you need like masculine dangerous men to protect you But that's always been the case And if you're just looking realistically about violence and crime in the world it exists It's there's no utopian spot.

3:20:18So violence and crime exists There's only one way you can shield the non -violent people who aren't committing crimes from the criminals And that's dangerous men you need dangerous armed men who are trained and are capable That's what you need it doesn't mean they should be running everything It means you need one hundred percent protection from dangerous people Then here's the number one thing that nobody addresses you have to figure out why are so many people coming out of these same communities Year after year after year after year being dangerous Where no one's doing shit about it. No one's trying to fix it.

3:20:51No one's trying to enhance it No, there's no one's trying to like Recognize like do you know much Income we're losing because these people don't grow up to become productive members of society You much damage it's causing if they go on to commit violent crimes and if whatever drug dealing any anything that can come out of that And do you know how much of a burden it is on the taxpayer to sort of put them through the criminal system and how much of that could be Completely removed if that person grows up and becomes a productive member of society and instead starts contributing to society And it's a success story The that's not impossible to do but there's been no effort no like Engineering large -scale national effort to completely eliminate these horrible spots in this country and not like make everything the same and perfect That's not possible, but there's a level of poverty that exists in this country that's Unmanageable you should never be that poor if you're a part of a community If you're a part of a community that takes care of everybody There's no reason why you have a hundred seventy five billion dollars to ship to Ukraine But you don't have any money to make sure that no one exists below a certain level of poverty When that kind of shit happens they shouldn't be helping these other countries I don't know why we send money to Israel you cray.

3:22:08I just don't understand why we there's just people suffering here You know there's people that have been taken advantage of in our own country And it's like you don't want to be selfish But if you don't take care if you don't know your inventory then your business is gonna fail right? That's a that is That is a law if you don't take stock of your own inventory your business will fail And we don't have stock of our own inventory and we don't have a healthy inventory You know, it's like it's just like I don't understand how it's so I don't know the weird thing is I start thinking is that a radical idea It didn't used to be a radical idea But it became a radical idea when People started floating about the idea the capitalism is evil all capitalism is bad There's all these people that have these utopian notions of how we should run our society Well, maybe it could be true at a certain point.

3:22:55I think it's going to probably have to be true at a certain point because of AI I think we're gonna get to some weird point where The money seems like It's just ones and zeros. It's just numbers and it's a bottleneck The bottleneck of information right because you can't have access to all the information if you have access to all the money Then where's the money got? Well, yeah, that's crazy But if we get to this point where we evolved past the state we're at now where you can't trust people to not steal your money Where you can't trust people to not lie where you can't trust people to not manipulate things and try for their own benefit If human beings can eventually get to a place like that Then I could see a time in our evolved future where we don't need money or when Everybody has the same amount where instead of having this desire To constantly acquire goods and constantly acquire status and and and you like prestige in the community Have the bigger house the bigger if that completely goes away and human beings really are one hive mind I could see where we could equally share resources.

3:24:04Yeah, but we're that's like Either a cyborg or a million years in the future I'm talking about like where we get past All of our primitive cave people instincts and DNA that I think fucks with everything It is the cause of almost all of our problems It's who we are innately It's just our programming is fucked yeah, there's our programming is the same Well, you know, there's there's some variations that have cured over time But reasonably similar I should say to people that lived 10 ,000 years ago So if you took a person from 10 ,000 years ago and you put him in a t -shirt like this and sat In the movie theater you wouldn't be able to tell it would just like like us.

3:24:45No, yeah, yeah So really you think 100 % yeah I mean they might have been smaller because they didn't give us get as much food But it would look like a small person. Yeah, we wouldn't know you wouldn't know they would look just like us So if you just put him in a suit and tie and sat him down there that guy would be like what the fuck yeah And that's basically us So that person if you get a person lives 10 ,000 years ago the amount of barbaric incidents that guy's probably seen by the time it becomes an adult The amount of people he's probably seen slaughtered with swords and spears and seeing people lit on fire That's all inside of us still right all that programming of like everybody's the the enemy and you got to protect the fields and protect the That is all a part of our programming and As technology increases and as we become more interconnected That's going to be one of the biggest problems that we face is abandoning these bizarre Primate characteristics that we still hold on to Because they're in our DNA and but they're not managed well Like people need to manage them to suppress them and some people Yeah, we try to prenatal exist Yeah, we try to prenatal exist sorry plus depth on you.

3:26:00No, no interrupting you a lot man. I'm sorry You're awesome. Hey, what are you doing stop doing that The piece of my kids let's wrap it up. We've been doing this for three. Oh, have we really at least yeah, it's almost Oh, man, I love you I know I'm always trying to get you to move here, but it's because I think you'd be happier here and selfishly I want all thank you, dude. I appreciate it. No, I want to be around This year's just been it's just been a It's been like every time I'm not doing a podcast. I have to like I'm traveling for work or it's like it's been a busy time Hey, if we open up another mother ship, do you think Nashville would be a good spot?

3:26:33Yeah Do is there enough or would be be fucking with zany's or do you think we would help it? No, I think it would be good because I think there's enough people there where you could do it. Do you have enough comics in Nashville? How many comics are in Nashville? That there's some you gotta have like a base, you know, like that want to perform all the time right I'll do some recon for you We're thinking we're thinking to go into the spots. Yeah, yeah Well, that would be cool man because at least I know the area could I'd be you know It's not about going to the most woke place in Brooklyn setting up shop The mother if you get I bet it would thrive though.

3:27:11Well, we can find out There's only one way to do it dude Wow, man, I can't believe it's so crazy that I was there to watch the at least like the elect just like what a night and was like It was really fun time to watch the election at the club in the green room We're all hopping back and forth offstage like who's winning? I know this fun, man It was so crazy dude drink a diet coke and it was fucking having a good time Deal Vaughn. I love you to death. You're one of my favorite people. I appreciate you very much I love you too, man. Thanks for being inspiring and thanks for um Yeah, sometimes you would like I would do a podcast episode You would just say you would reach out and say hey man, uh I like that episode and it just meant a lot.

3:27:49I just want to let you know that it's well It does you you do a great job, man. I really love your show. I think you you got some great interviews and you got a great You got a nice way of being yourself You know when you're talking to anybody and that's how I think people really like they like to see conversations Or people are just being themselves and the fact that you can do that with trump that's fun It's inspiring so it's it's nice to see man. I really really love it Well, thanks. Thanks man. Yeah, I think it means a lot to people when somebody they admire like Um says something nice to them, you know, it's just nature You know, yeah, so we like it.

3:28:22But I appreciate it. I think try to be good my budget. All right. Bye everybody