#2229 - Jeff Dye

14 Nov 2024 · 2 h 34 min

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Podcast Notes: The Joe Rogan Experience - Episode #2229 with Jeff Dye

Episode Overview

  • Host: Joe Rogan
  • Guest: Jeff Dye, a stand-up comic, actor, and broadcast personality.
  • Release Date: November 14
  • Episode Links:
  • [Jeff Dye's Website](http://www.jeffdye.com)
  • [YouTube Special - The Last Cowboy in LA](https://800pgr.lnk.to/cowboy)

Key Topics Discussed

Jeff Dye's Background and Comedy Style

  • Jeff Dye shares his humorous perspective on having untrained dogs and the chaos that ensues.
  • The discussion transitions into the differences between dog training philosophies, with Rogan emphasizing the need for discipline.

Personal Reflections on Adulthood

  • Both guests reflect on their journeys into adulthood, with Rogan noting that he didn't feel like an adult until relatively recently.
  • They discuss the importance of discipline and maturity in personal growth.

The Comedy Scene

  • The conversation touches on the differences between performing in various venues and how different audiences respond.
  • Jeff recounts his experience with performing in front of drunk audiences during prom shows at comedy clubs, highlighting the challenges comedians face.

Cultural Commentary

  • They delve into societal expectations and the absurdity of modern culture, including the pressures of respectability politics and the impact of social media.
  • Rogan and Dye discuss how comedians navigate the political landscape in their routines, especially amid shifting cultural narratives.

The Role of Humor

  • The role of humor as both a tool for connection and as a medium for social commentary is explored.
  • Rogan mentions how comedians like Carrot Top are misjudged and how he appreciates the craft that goes into their performances.

Observations on Society and Politics

  • The duo reflects on the political climate, discussing the polarization in viewpoints and how it affects interpersonal relationships.
  • They touch on the impact of technology, particularly social media, on contemporary discourse and comedy.

Closing Thoughts on Comedy and Life

  • Rogan and Dye reminisce about the essence of stand-up comedy and how it has evolved.
  • They discuss the importance of authenticity in performance, with Dye sharing insights from his own experiences in comedy.

Key Takeaways

  • Growth Through Comedy: The journey of a comedian is intertwined with personal growth, discipline, and societal observations.
  • Navigating Social Norms: The absurdity of modern social norms and the way comedians can either challenge or reinforce them through their work.
  • Audience Connection: The importance of connecting with audiences and how comedians must adapt their material to engage effectively with different crowds.
  • Cultural Commentary: The ever-changing landscape of culture, politics, and their intersections in comedy, with reflections on the importance of humor in navigating societal issues.

Conclusion The episode provides a rich discussion on the life of Jeff Dye as a comedian, the challenges faced in the comedy industry, and broader societal observations. Both Rogan and Dye share personal anecdotes that illuminate their perspectives on growth, humor, and the complexities of modern life. The upcoming special "The Last Cowboy in LA" is highlighted as an opportunity for listeners to experience Dye's comedy firsthand.

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0:03I The Joe Rogan experience Train my day Joe Rogan podcast my night all day I used to have a dog that had terrible I mean I don't have it I'm always traveling and also like I'm not real good with discipline of like someone else You know like I don't know the train of dog so I just let them do anything So I think it was hilarious he'd be like chewing on something like jack that out Like he shouldn't do that I said yeah, fuck it let him like I just liked the idea that he was wild It made me happy it's very bad though, you know your dog bite somebody Oh, he's always just humping stuff and like he didn't think he was a ridgeback.

0:39Oh, Rhodesian Ridgeback. Yeah, oh But in my mind, I'm like well, why do I want to rain tyranny on this dog and be like he needs to sit He needs I kind of liked to be like this little psycho that would hump things and that's fun But you gotta be able to control though. Yeah, I know I could yeah hold me back then I was young like 31 or something at the time Younged it's not that young to me did I didn't become an adult for a while for like six months ago What about four years I think No, but I've that dog I would open the door He was just darned and I was like yeah this dog is unhinged. I let him like it.

1:14Yeah, I liked it That's crazy. Yeah, I've had some crazy dogs, but it's like you gotta train them You know they have to listen to you. Well, I had a lot of pit bulls. Oh nice. Yeah, they have to listen You look like a pit bull. They have to have like they have to have a sense that you're the boss You have to be kind and sweet love them, but you're the boss like you have to train them I trained my dog diligently. I was like see a treat sit stay right make them stay for five minutes And then give them a big treat and hug them and kiss them You gotta like make sure they fucking listen. Well, that was the problem is that I would literally like he would be doing Something and I'd be like he doesn't respect me And I would think like it was just it was that's as simple as it was my dog He saw me as like a cool guy.

1:56He didn't respect me. He's your friend. Yeah exactly So like I would leave him with his dog trainer and Sherman hooks and the dog trainer was sent me videos and he'd be like look And I would I would think look at me my money's going to good. He look at what my dog's doing He's doing a little turn and but it's because he respected that guy And so then he would come back to my house. He just pissed on the couch while he's laying there and I'm going away What was all that stuff he learned? He goes my dog's looking at me going not for you Yeah, you're my friend. Yeah, you're the cool guy. That's me.

2:24We were but it's a both dog Which is that metaphor for my life too like I was the fun piss on the couch guy But at some point you got to grow up and be disciplined and really do yeah, and you don't have as much fun But you've the fun that you have you appreciate oh for sure. Yeah, cuz it's like it's not out of control Yeah, my dog that I have now is the first dog that I've ever had that was so easy to train It's like I didn't even train him and it's a golden are they kind of dumb that That's not very smart. What's the dumb breed? They're just sweet There's sweet so people think they're dumb, but he understands words like I'll say not that door Dude, let's go inside door and he turns around and goes towards the side like he's he gets it like he's a fucking smart dog But training him was like that really oh my god first of all Goldens have no resistance.

3:11They don't want to fight They don't want to they never grow up people and they never if they bark it's they see something weird They never bark at people like they're just the sweetest dog. I love that I love that you to be their friend So like teach him to sit was like real easy was like sit and I push his butt down and then I put I'm gonna give him a little treat and then and then I'd say sit and he just stood down love it I give my treat. Yeah, and then next day was like said he sat pat him on the head give me kiss He now he just listens which is also the metaphor for for humans We like to have a little approval like it's less than it's less of the tree and the pat on the head I made dad happy.

3:46Yeah, they're the most like people yeah, those dogs. They're the most like what's the dumb rigs I don't want to keep doing this a lot of times. I'll see like a Dalmatian and then I'll ask that one Poor little Carl Carl was Carl's about the bright but his brains are size of my thumb. It's not A big head They're cute. That's the thing love the shit out of that dog. Yeah, he's so jack too. Look how jacked is a little muscles He's in constant shape. Well him and Marshall like go to war like he just said when when Marshall's here Like call get so tired from playing with my dog is my dog doesn't fight back So he just totally takes advantage of it.

4:21Just throws himself out of like a torpedo Well when it's over he like can't breathe. Oh, yeah, yeah, cuz he was bred to not He's got no fucking nasal cavity. It's like it is a weird dog. They used to be a wolf They look like aliens, but so fucking weird that humans turn a wolf into that fucking thing I think it's our best invention. It's a pretty cool job. Like not saying it's an ethical thing Or smart is kind of like you know, if you know what you were doing to a wolf it's kind of fucked up But he doesn't need to survive that things yeah, he's got Jamie's got us He's in the safest place in America right now.

4:57Let me see those ladies that carry him around them little purses Got a dog carrying around with their person. Yeah, that's like they used to be a wolf. That's wild They're trying to do that to us. What I know that's the problem. Just keep your dogs trying to do that Don't change me. They want to do it to everybody. I know if common one we would have been one step closer to poodles Yeah, every day I was getting closer. That's why I'm single too I'm just trying to hold on to any freedom. I got it's what you gotta find someone that you jive with it gets you And that's what's hard is like people want to change people girls look at guys they look at some guys like a project Like I know he doesn't want to settle down.

5:31I know he doesn't want that Yeah, if I could just get him to start changing the way he dresses I know and then I get him to do the open the card doing it for me like my hands don't work I know I'm still I'm the rich back. We were just talking about where I'm going just let me be wild Let me like you know like I I'll spend like 24 hours with a woman and Just enjoy every second of it. I enjoy every like all the affection the door opening I enjoy these kind of things. You know taking care of someone showing them a little you know put up the card door Do you know that I like that? I'll show them my life, you know Hey, these are my comedy buddies and watch me go kill on stage.

6:09Oh, I got this. I'll pay for everything And about like at a 24 hours of my brain. I'm like I gotta get out of this like how like how do I be a Obedo sing maybe it's like binge drinking. Yeah, man, you know if you have a glass of wine with dinner You don't feel like like oh get that fucking wine away from me That is a drink like Bert Christ. Are you drinking boxes of wine? Bert, we get on the treadmill. I don't get me started box of wine on the treadmill Bert suffers from the same disease Patrice had he doesn't know how like he sowed this one of a kind person That he everything he says and all the advice he tries to give don't Work for anyone else because each one of a kind so he'll say here's what you got to do and you go that doesn't apply to me You know what I'm saying we can't be on a treadmill Drink in a box of wine and then go do a show for 200 grand.

6:58We're different people. He keep going I've never seen anyone like him. He's a freak athlete believe it or not I believe that Tom Sagura played him in a game of tennis and Tom got a tennis coach They had this like this big tennis match They even did it on like one of those your mom's house live screens Yeah, you know like they made a big deal out of it big tennis machine tongue Bert destroyed him. Oh, yeah drunk giant belly Serves like a pro. He said he literally serves like a fucking division one college player. I didn't know that about him That's pretty impressive. He goes what the fuck yeah, he goes to serve is insane that makes total sense I mean, I'm not yeah, I'm like somewhat surprised by the guy.

7:41Yeah, just got it. Yeah, it just knows how to do He's also got this bizarre confidence. Yeah, that allows him to not have anxiety about trying new things great for this business Oh, yeah, just dives in takes a shirt off look at me Just thinking like because early he went on something where he was gone If you if someone tells you to quit drinking Don't stop drinking tell tell them to shut up drinking is the best thing. I got Jesus Christ You know me alcoholics are hearing this right now Bert like some people should quit some people shouldn't I get what he's trying to do I get the point that he was trying to do what am I?

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10:20He hit it over the fence. Yeah, but the form of that was beautiful. What did he do there? He hates them. Oh, he did a some Tom's flustered. Yeah, he's really good. Tom's just happy. He didn't snap his leg here Yeah, look out. Look at that fucking serve. Bro, it's got a curve to it too. Oh, that's great Also, Bert looks fit here. Well, it's the outfit. That's for him for him. He's fit. Yeah, he loses weight He gets way down then he binges up again. He gets crazy again He lost like 60 pounds and got real fit didn't drink for like three months. Yeah, and then he just goes crazy again Yeah, that's a good time.

10:55I love him though, but I was just saying like the advice thing like did you ever work with Patrice or know him good? Yeah, one time in New York. This is the late great Patrice. I know I'm going through a thing with a girl at the time You know people ask you how you're doing and if you're sad, I'm a pretty honest guy I just got you know this my girlfriend's driving me crazy. She's back at Or you know the apartment and when I was in New York She's back. I'm just it's just stressing me out. I need to get on stage have a good time have some drinks I need to like just whatever he goes here's what you do man.

11:22You're a good looking guy And I was like yeah, I don't think I'm gonna get advice from Patrice You know this is great. He goes you a good looking guy man another girl home. Right does that what he said? He like goes I seen the way these girls look over to you around there you find one of these bitches You have a good time. Don't worry about what's back at the apartment then when the time comes bring her back bring her back to your apartment and say Yo, this is me this is you know you got to deal with this shit and if you went and I was like Patrice Patrice you're my hero. I love you Terrible advice.

11:55You're gonna get me murdered you get it murder also that's just not the type of women I hang out with they're not gonna be fine with that. Yeah, that's a very specific type of woman. I Probably gonna murder you. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, time's ticking on that exactly So I just read it by the said that he was gonna He got I talked my girlfriend and doing a threesome and if I had the same exact feeling as someone saying to me Hey, I started making my own bomb right you go don't do the Tract and die yeah exactly But I think that that's what you should think when you hear your heroes or Bert tell you anything just just just know Their lives are different than yours.

12:30Yeah, there's some certain one of a kind people that you just got us like We not everybody can do that. Yeah, like Bert went and got a liver screen and can't oh, he's fine Yeah, he's fine. He can do it. He's fine He gets his health checked and it's health is fine. He's 50 years old. Yeah, he's still going hard. How old is Bert now? He's got to be deep into his 40s But Bert will be like don't quit drinking have a good time and then some guys like I'm hitting my wife again Dude this booze is he was probably drunk when you said that, you know, you probably got that Probably took some time off and then had a drink started feeling good.

13:04I want to tweet some advice Yeah, it was one of those things cuz I love him and I'm somebody on a lot of the comments were like Oh another comedian not understanding another comedian. I was just I was like no, it's not that I love bird If you knew our relationship you'd get it like I where we're good Just want people to know if you do have a problem. It's okay to quit You know, you don't have to especially you as a person who quit. Yeah, I was just saying you know This is a sensitive subject for some people it is yeah because look I have certain friends that Have recovered from alcoholism and this one buddy that I had that used to drink he would drink and then his eyes would glaze over like a sharks Yeah, like the pupils have begun and he wasn't there anymore.

13:41I go Bob's gone now This fucking drunk Bob drunk Bob totally different human being for sure He would black out all the time not remember things like you don't remember what you did like you didn't remember anything How's that guy? I would be fun fun fun till it wasn't fun. Dude. I think it's a genetic thing. Yeah, I mean I'm guessing But I've never had that yeah, so I've got to assume that it's a genetic I've gotten fucked up before right. I've gotten really drunk. I've never like I need to get drunk I've never been like I need to get drunk, but I have friends. I have one gear dude. So there's a thing Yeah one gear one gear if we're gonna smoke weed I smoke all the weed And you know I'm saying if we're doing coke you're going to Tijuana right?

14:22Yeah, I think I'm king coke guy, you know Why do one Viagra when I can do six Viagras? Yeah, like I just don't have a and and that's why also like it works to my benefit You know the first time I said I'm gonna do stand up. I never stopped like I was up there. I was obsessed Did you ever get hit in the head real hard? Yeah, I played a lot of like sports grown up So yeah, I got hit I've had two really serious concussions where I went to the hospital You think that's it. Yes. Oh interesting. Yeah, I do big one. I know I lost I mean I'm not a psychologist for a psychiatrist, but I do know that that is One of the side effects of brain injury is that you lose impulse control interesting.

15:01Yeah, I got no governor Which works good, you know it works good for something's like like I said when I'm hanging out with the girl like I'm best boyfriend Ever I'm 10, you know, but and then it's a gotta be extremely not right You know, it's kind of these extremes. Yeah, you gotta get to know someone if you're diving in with someone for 24 hours 48 hours You just met them like the chances of you guys Giving perfectly or not that good. It's like not even 50 50 if you get lucky find the girl you dreams And then hey, we've been together we hung out together for two days in a row and then fuck we were married six months later We live happily ever after that's real that can have met people like that.

15:38Yeah, it can happen But generally right first of all when you meet someone you barely meeting them You're meeting the thing that they put on when they want someone to like them. It's performative a little for sure I always say to young guys try to become the person you pretend to be when you're trying to get laid So wait say it again try to be become the person that you're pretending to be when you're trying to get laid I like that it just be that person and you never have to pretend. I love that I believe that outside of the idea of relationships So like I always say like and I probably heard this somewhere I read it somewhere But like the idea of like you can be like your heroes.

16:16Yes, you know, you know What like what do you like about the person you say you like right? They're kind. Okay, so just be kind That's what people like you know, or oh, I like that guy cuz he's down to earth Yes, so then you should try to be down to earth You know, it's very so you just you you should be like the people You know and you can also have anti heroes me and my parents have a very tumultuous relationship And so that's a positive for me because I'm going I don't want to be like that. Yes or that quality I don't want to be like and so me it was always lazy people I had a like a severe disdain for lazy people like and I'm aggressive Distain I'd be angry at people if they're lazy when I was a young man is because I was so scared of being lazy I love I was so scared of being a loser that I if I saw any laziness in people I get angry Which is weird because you love pot.

17:00Yeah, but that is a lot of pot guys are just they're happy with their Lazyness. Yeah, that's not me man. I know you're the opposite you like the most productive pot had I've ever known It's not a to me. It doesn't slow me down. It makes me think more and when I think more I think about all the shit I need to get done and I think about like how I'll feel if I don't accomplish what I Unaccomplicate if I don't put in the work. Yeah, I start freaking out. What's your exact strand because that's the one everyone needs Whatever the strand is your doing I like sativa's over Indika's but I don't like to get super duper high I just I know it's like drunk.

17:34It's like I like two drinks two drinks and I go on stage I'm the life of the party. We're all friends lose Four drinks and I'm like what did I just talk about five minutes ago? Make sure I don't repeat my jokes You know make sure I don't bring up something that I'm not sure where it goes yet, you know I didn't look at it. I did that. I can't Four drinks too much or you go I'll scrap these first four parts of the bit and just do this joke and you're like Why just grab does it drunk? I just jumped right to that part pot makes me really consider all the things I'm not doing it makes me call friends and checking on them It makes yeah, it makes me like way more like kind and compassionate and friendly.

18:14I want to hug people Mushrooms does that for me same thing. Yeah, that one was like a life -changing thing for me Yeah, because I was like I don't know I'm trying to explain something scientific that I don't know nothing about But if I had to describe how it felt it felt like it connected things for me where I was like oh I need to be a little bit more I need to work on this or I need to check in with so and so or I need to let go of that And that was all because of I kind of came back a different guy after mushrooms Well, I think one of the primary things that it does is it dissolves your ego and the ego I think is the giant cage that we all live in and you can kind of see the world from outside the cage But the ego is there protecting you from reality sometimes the ego is there protecting you from your Understanding of your own mistakes which we all have and some some people bullshit themselves and but they keep it in the back of their head The ego is what's doing all that for you and it's doing that as like this little shield this little Caged that you put in that allows you to move through the world and mushrooms just Takes that down and then you just get to see the world for what it really is and see you for where you really are and then see Like some of the behaviors you that you always regret about yourself.

19:26You go, why am I doing that? Like what is that and then you can kind of see the the roots of it all or and you see the cause and effective Interactions with people I remember once I'm at a psychedelic experience and I was closing my eyes and I saw positive thoughts as a different Pattern Like I had a negative thought and the pattern turned like dark and then I had a positive thought like oh, no Nothing negative anyway Like flowered open love that beautiful patterns and then it was like the thing like the mushroom was telling me that's the way to go Right that's the way that perception yeah, you can lean into negativity if you want to be a kind of there's plenty of content Yeah, but there's people out there that are doing that they're filled with anxiety.

20:07It's wrecking their life Dude just nice people love being wronged It's such a treat for them to hold on to their wrong how many things they've been wronged and the and so like that So such a great way to describe that because really the my failures and my flaws and the things I want to work on and all that stuff Are the connection like that's when like when I was able to go man I think I really have a problem here and I need I need some help people were excited to help me right because it gave them a chance to Help and serve and connect and so as opposed to me thinking I needed to pretend I didn't have a problem or they wouldn't be my friends it made them So much better friends knowing like oh, we can help them right so and that's just I keep using sobriety as an example, but just in general the connection is That you know connections everything like real connection with people is everything and you gotta have good people around you Like this whole idea of being nice me cool some people can't be nice They're surrounded by assholes surrounded by people that are fucking with them and taking from them and ruining their life and Interjecting in their life and just like oh they have to stand up for themselves for sure But you've got to at least aspire to get into a better situation in life and surround yourself somehow There's a way I've done it you've done it so round yourself with nice people 100 % it can be done Yeah, I can be done find a group find a friend find a church find a and also whatever that person so that you attract those people again Like try to figure it out.

21:36I was describing my buddy Chris the other day like like what I think the problem is With the kind of like modern times and that's kind of vague, but it's like I see I've always seen my life as like I got dealt a card of hands, you know some of those cards real good and some of the cards not good But that's the hand I was dealt right and we've all been dealt some hand of cards a lot of people bad ones Some people really good ones that would just been dealt and and I thought to myself How can I play these cards? I didn't start bitching about the rules of poker like I didn't start going hey dealer That let's maybe we should change the whole board like no I just all I can do is play my hand Yeah, and I think and I think that like that's kind of how I'm viewing modern times where people would rather complain about the rules of poker instead of just playing their hands the best way they could Well It's outcasts for the first time get collectively as a group and then act like bullies So they act like people have acted to them like sure most you know, it's that old expression hurt people hurt people Right, so the nastiest meanest people online I find other than like white radical white supremacist Nazis and shit What just you're talking about social issues the the meanest people with the left wing people for whatever reasons especially now And this is not to say there's not some cuts out there that are right when people's a ton of them yeah, but I just it's common place for people who consider themselves good Kind people to say things like punch a Nazi right and then they get to define what a Nazi isn't as nothing to do with us Go nothing to do it hating Jews, you know, you just be voted Republican.

23:11Oh, you're a fascist, right? Okay What you tell me first of all what does that mean? Yeah, you tell me what that means tell me what that word define that word you throw that word around so often And there's a word out there's a lot of There's a lot of definitions of that word right wing You know authoritarian government all that stuff, but also like forcing people to behave and think in a certain way that's what they hate about religion Yeah, they claim they hate religion because religious people tell them what to think and do And then they do a religious act of being like a liberal going if you don't think like me you must be bad Racisms their devil and it's okay to hate the devil and so they try to hate it You know mark injuries and is these a brilliant venture capitalist like super genius guy and been on my podcast a couple times He broke the whole woke thing down as a religion and like it is Blamed how you can get ex -communicated And cast out and that's and people are fearful of that so they stay inside the lines.

24:09Yeah, there's a doctrine They all follow they're using race because guess what who'd want to be crunches with the racists It's also gender. It's also like stupid shit like you can be non -binary if you're a white man You got nowhere to go. Hey, I can't be I can't even be like right fucked with like nothing no one's Descriminating against me. You can become non -binary sure. Oh great. You still fuck girls You just have to say you're they them well for like in my ex like it would before what I've like in my observation like They're left used to be really like the cool the progressive side the nice side the good side Whereas to now like I'm like listen to yourselves You don't like rich people right you're mad at anyone wealthy.

24:45You're mad at the super wealthy You hate Jim bros you hate fracked guys you hate a straight white guys you hate boomers You're mad at your grand pants you met you you seem to not like a lot of people Yeah, for being the most a generalizing just completely generalizing right also. Where's our empathy? I think what if I ever met like a crazy right wing Which I never have met any of these Nazis they're talking about but if I did meet one I believe that I could have some empathy for them and some sympathy and go they're just dumb Yeah, they're not evil. They're just dumb and they can be sure they can be like convinced otherwise They're also they're also programmed right?

25:26It's generally their program by the people around them Yeah, but where's our empathy? I watched this documentary on Netflix It was about like the KKK and the woman who made the documentary was like a kind of a cute Muslim girl And she like interviewed actual white nationalists and KKK members And she brings them into this thing and what I learned from that documentary What I got from it was that like oh, they don't even really believe this They just wanted a group. They wanted a daddy. They wanted someone to like Said they thought to themselves. I can't be black people. I mean if uh If they're over there, I don't ever have to confront one and I don't ever have to be on And when they we will meet a black guy they'll go well not you we're talking about the idea They're not even talking about that actual person and the girl in the documentary goes Well, you know that you let me in and you've been very nice to me and I'm a Muslim woman and the guys like well not you We're talking about yeah, so it's because they just wanted a group like you right They just wanted a group like like black gang members or Hispanic MS 19 whatever these groups are What if you're a little less -being group is whatever your baseball team is they need a group And their group was like I can hate some people I've never seen before yeah That's why it's so dangerous like groups like We're they can get entrapped because uh the the governor Whitmer case.

26:40Do you know that case? These guys conspired to kidnap the governor of uh Michigan Michigan yeah, and uh there's 14 people involved 12 of them were FBI informants Yeah, I mean I think that these two dudes just wanted to be in a group. Yeah, that's it two guys Hey, man, we're gonna kidnap and we take you over the government. Fuck it. That's hilarious Yeah, they just wanted some shit red rider What time I probably had a name for their gang. They were cool. They're calling they had a group chat probably felt real cool. Yeah We're gonna make some change we're getting a duct tape vigilantes. Yeah, I mean while these two guys thought they were cosplaying And then they got arrested like I know I really plan on doing I know wasn't even my idea It's tricky another problem I've noticed too like along these lines is like let's say we're in a group Let's say we have some group and then we find out one of the guys in our group did a bad thing But we got we got to pay our bills right?

27:38We got a group and also we do we do have something to come Roderie So a bad thing groups like to do is cover up for that person right so like it's not like every Catholic priest I've heard all your terrible bits at the comedy clubs about the Catholic priests from every comic I know It's not like all the ones We're fine with sexually molesting children It's just that there were a lot that did And the church thought this is not gonna look good for us. Let's cover this up It happens in the military sometimes there's some bad guys in the military and they instead of like they don't want people to think If you send your daughters to the military bad things are gonna happen so they kind of internally deal with it You know, and that's a bad thing that groups do is that even our own government goes all right Let's find a way to cover that up Instead of Dealing with this because if we just deal with it.

28:25It's kind of reflect poorly on the group. What are we gonna do this? Epstein client list Is it really helping the world? Does Mr. Gates need this kind of attention exactly is out there trying to cheer polio leave them alone exactly So you start to think let's protect the group right and we do it in all these ways I think that that's happened with the LGBTQ plus whatever I think a lot of gay people are waking up and going Why did we let the trans people in this group? They're making us look terrible? Well lesbians are having a real problem with it because there's a lot of trans men who identify as lesbians yes Are trans women they say they're a lesbian and they get on lesbian apps and these girls like I'm looking for a vagina 100 % yeah They're waking up going up maybe this maybe the trans struggle was different than the gay struggle But we've let them in the group and now well a lot of gay guys think that the movement is homophobic because you're telling a young Gay guy no you're a woman you're actually a woman Well, it's one of those things that you got to say some people it must be true because it's always been a thing Like to have real gender dysphoria to be in your mind Feel like a woman has always been a thing even if you're a guy There's more a feminine women that feel like women So it's like that's real But also when you Encourage that and you reward people socially for that and then you have pride day at kindergarten And you're talking about like sexual orientation people there nowhere near puberty which is really crazy and then you start like Having people that become trans all of a sudden they're amazing Yeah, where they were just really mediocre before like Bruce Jenner Like he was the goof of the Kardashian show first of all it makes no sense no one's accomplished shit This motherfucker was on the cover of me star.

30:13He was a star He was a fucking gold medalist in the de -cathlon the goddamn Olympics. Yeah, he was a national hero He was a stud And meanwhile he's on this show with these influencers and he's just getting nothing right. He's just mocked He's like I could be a pretty gal openly mocked He becomes a woman. He's woman of the year in six months Yeah, six months he took over the fucking game. He's a winner It's like a Chinese autistic kid coming into your math class and fucking up the curve What's going on?

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34:16It's crazy like what are you doing? I know and you're not being compassionate you're not being kind all these things that you said is only with total compliance Are you willing to give people this grace you must have total compliance to our ideology? Or your cast out of the king that's a leverage of power Even if you're a trans woman, which is like at the top of the oppression list They're above regular cannibal or black people poor Mexicans like poor immigrants trans peoples that talk about They're tacking their own. They're like literally like cannibalists just going like that one But what didn't fall in line didn't fall in line.

34:49Yeah, it's a bit. It's the word. I also think it's like it's just a big over correction I think I think humans Are like guilty of always over correcting So it's like we were racist. Yes historically I could go on about that for hours, but like let's say that's the idea that we're agreeing with the historically America was racist So now the over correction is Anything that is racist must be don't ever even accuse a person of color of something wrong Because because we have to so over correct and we have to say how many black friends we have and say how cool black things are and Don't say that their hair is different because that that would be a racist thing right or oh we used to be homophobic So now if a guy sucks a dick let's give him a parade Let's put him in the white house.

35:32Celebrate healthy exactly. Let's give him the charge of it The fucking guy in the dress who's a charge of nuclear energy just let him suck down stealing women's clothes Yeah, just let him suck dick. We didn't need them to be in power Not exceptional just because they were a dress right that's crazy. That's a nutty purse You're not virtuous because like yeah, and that's and like I think that There's a big difference between just letting someone live their life and not and being kind to them in society and not Treating them different. I'm giving them all the same rights as opposed to celebrating it I think you're absolutely right.

36:00It's just an extreme over correction Well, we need to do is just let people be themselves right and figure out who that is But what what is weird is when it becomes encouraged and so then you get like with girls in particular It's they're very vulnerable Abigail Shryer wrote a book about this but how many Girls that are on the spectrum get convinced that they're trans yeah, and then the problem is there's some states that allow you I think of your 15 you can go and get puberty blockers or at the very least you can get testosterone I know you can do that. Do you know that like plan parenthood's like the number one prescriber of testosterone see if that's true But I think plan parenthood prescribes more testosterone than anybody which is really crazy if that's true That's wild because I think in some places they help people with gender transition So and if you're a girl in some states you don't even have to be an adult You can go to them and you don't have to permission of your parents If you I don't know who you have to consult with it what you have to do But it's alarmingly easy yeah And then now you're on testosterone and one of the things that testosterone does is alleviates anxiety Makes you feel stronger you feel like more alert you more alive like this This is what I was missing right I was missing testosterone like no you weren't No, you weren't that's not a natural part of your body you just added something and now you feel way different But now you're gonna change your voice and if you grow out of this and if this is just a phase Well now you've fucked up your life and you can't ever have children right and there's a bunch of babies out there The detransitioners they're stuck with deep voices for their whole lives They're stuck with masculine features.

37:35They've cut their breasts off. I got a couple for the adults Uh, I got in trouble for posting this is that true about plant paranoid. I I don't want to get sued Have I did you been sued? No, anybody ever sued I did read it in a um, I see one article, but I don't know if this is a legit What's that? Oh, it says that but I'm trying to find out. I don't know what the it's the Dallas Express It doesn't seem like that's the number one newspaper on the universe It's gotta be yeah, everyone's really expressed plant paired among largest suppliers of testosterone right there In the let's see what the numbers are.

38:11Do they say numbers? I didn't even get eight hundred visits per year to more than 2500 fucking it's the expression gender affirming care freaks me out. I got trouble for posting this I said if genitals don't define gender, how does removing them affirm it? Oh That's fucking to say that's too shared what are we doing like if It's really crazy. You said like I don't need to have a vagina to be a woman Then why do I need to remove my penis to be a woman whoa back that up again The number of Gender affirming hormone therapy visits to plant parenthood tripled between 2021 and 2023 growing from 800 visits per year to more than 2500 that's crazy that shows you that it's a social contagion and that's Abigail Shryer's Position on it and it's a very compassionate kind position And it's about the future of children and then making decisions when they're very impressionable and boy to people attack her They removed from bookstores.

39:10They call their transphobic just for literally talking about facts It's statistics and the numbers have increased and the psychological effect like what's going on with them? Psychologically like why are they being led? Who are these what is the what is the actual odds that nine friends all become trans? What are the odds that it's almost here? It's preposterous. It's absolutely. Yes, but then again It is also a real thing like there's always been people that have felt like they should have been a woman And if you're a grown adult and you want to make that decision Yeah, you do whatever you want to do.

39:42Yeah, I've met trans people that say they are very happy with what they've done Yeah, that's great. I guess But you got to know what the fuck that is and when you're 13 you don't yeah, I don't know if I'd encourage it even in an adult I know that the correct statement for me right now would be like just leave our kids alone But I think that maybe I don't even want to encourage adults I we just got to pursue your own things and I think that's beautiful And I think that's what our country's about but in my mind a dude doesn't care about the dick Yeah, exactly if you're a trans woman find a dude actually find Jim Norton.

40:12Oh, yeah, exactly You can find a gym nor you're gonna have a celebrity. Yeah, I mean that's what happened with Jim Yeah, he's got a trans woman for a wife. He's happy talks about the dick You know what's crazy about the gym noran thing is uh that like you know He's with these tough crowd guys. He's with all my heroes. I looked up to Jim Norton my whole life I love Jim Norton. I'm a fan and then they go you know He's married to a trans woman and I was like the fuck And everyone's like oh you Jeff and your trans thing I was like no if I know Jim Norton he wouldn't have got married That's really what I was shocked about the institution of marriage he believes in that's ridiculous This is Jim Norton that's the over correction.

40:49You want to show this is really your wife? Yeah, marry her right whereas all the girlfriends all the girls with a they're a little stinky vaginas get out of here Telling anyone you get take my last name fuck off Yeah, it's very crazy man. That's the over correction But you wouldn't encourage someone and I know that I'm gonna take some hits for this But you wouldn't encourage someone who believed that they were their their body was fat if it wasn't healthily You know like with reading eating disorder and they said Joe but I think Carlson said that you don't say oh you are fat Yeah, Joe you are but I believe I should be and you go you're dying dude right or it's no He what he said it about was anorexics like you would never tell an anorexics right?

41:29Oh you are fat That's real right people are really out there believing they looking at me are there a skeleton right but they look in the mirror and they go I'm gross. I'm fat. Exactly. You wouldn't encourage it. You never encourage you would treat it. There's something wrong Correct you would treat it I think the other problem is that the whole way they do it you can't orgasm ever again Okay, and you don't really have a vagina you have this hole right and then you have to keep that whole dial it You have to stick something inside it. I think it's like lip jobs like don't get the early ones Wait till they get this down.

42:00Don't let people experiment on you by splicing your dick open like a hot dog Wait, yeah, just hang in it wait for the iPod six therapy Yes, I firmly believe it might not be an hour lifetime But if maybe in our children or our grandchildren's lifetime gene editing will get to a place where They will be able to turn you into whatever the fuck you want right And it's probably going to be a nightmare because every guy's going to look like Thor and every woman's gonna like a prime Jennifer Lopez it's like there's not gonna be any variations everyone's gonna be super hot right? There's not you're not gonna appreciate hot people.

42:32Yeah, you will big whoop. Yeah, because like you know when you when a hot woman walks in a room And there's no other hot women every the best. Oh, once here look what I got look what's Look at her. Oh my goodness. What is she like making right? But if everybody looks like that it's gonna be commonplace And I think we're gonna get to a place where ever man's gonna look like the Hulk It's just gonna be just giant dudes nerds will for sure 100 % they're gonna be the first to sign up for that you know what it's fucking dudes that go to the coffee shop And sit there with their legs cross like this no working out They're fucking their shoulders slump they're gonna look like the rock It's fucking They're all gonna be beasts dude.

43:13You know what's interesting about the like comic book World all the guys Who like they read comics and it's Thor right? Yeah shoulders like you and biceps like you He's Spider -Man The Hulk all these dudes that are just fantastic fantastic heroes that give us justice and beat your enemies bad man But then if they see you at the coffee shop we go look at this douche bag you go what I look like your comic Like Joe Rogan walked in they should be going holy shit. How does he look like that? I want to look like that isn't it also weird that it's like the feebleist men Oh, yeah really love the super powerful men in these fantasy, but but not real life They don't want to just work out to look like them they'd be that it's too hard Jeff, but just do it be like your heroes Yeah, look at me weird Yeah, that's part of it hard if you're like scrawny and you go to a gym for the first time It's so disheartening stuff and so these girls with those fucking yoga pants on That you might as well be a pile of shit to them.

44:14Well, this is all these big jack guys doing squawks That's motivation baby. He's got me you're a spot Yeah, I didn't just sit in there with your little fucking 10 pound dumbbells My arms Yeah, it takes so long guys you're slamming weights you guys love to slam weights so long to get strong takes forever So many wraps. Oh, you gotta keep doing your shrink. Yeah, I gotta come back tomorrow They go. I got to do this again tomorrow. It's so hard that most people just want to dismiss it But it's fun if you could do it in a pill you would all every three hours help to anybody can't if I could give you a pill And that pill would give you more energy throughout the day You could pick up anything you carry things around you never have to worry about yourself physically You're stronger than most people you meet you know how to fight wouldn't wouldn't you take that pill?

45:03Yeah Well, you can do that pill, but it's called hard work. Absolutely. That's all it is. That's so true. Yeah And it'll change everything hard it'll change everything for you You know, it's boring to take all those vitamins take the vitamins you fucking retard But you open up the cabinet. We don't know I've got to work at Chipotle You got enough protein in enough that your fucking cars are race car But you know, I don't have this free time. I have a family and everybody's free time You just choose to do it with other things choose to sit there with your fucking phone out. Yeah scrolling through I'm checking your likes and arguing with people on Twitter.

45:35Yeah, that's how I feel like You got plenty of time to go to McDonald's you got time to Do the Gogans has that great quote where he's like He says this guy said to me all right, but the gym membership is too excited. He goes you got a mother fucking floor where you live? You got a ground where you're at then work out mother fuck and I love that kind of mentality of like you could do You could do a whole workout right there. All you need is a chin -up bar That's the only and you don't even need that you can get those things that hang on your door You don't even have to get like a permanent day of good Chin -up bars now that like attached to your doorframe and they're solid and they hold you in place to screw them in They're legit and all you need is that and push -ups body weight squats sit -ups There's a bunch of different yoghurt exercises you can do.

46:17Oh, yeah Pick up a rock free rock. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's not a cool kettlebell with a monkey. Hey, you know, but you know, you could rocks rocks are heavy rocks are awkward tree branch. I know 7 ,000 parks by my house that have a bar that you wouldn't have to buy on Amazon. You could just go hang from it. Yeah Yeah, those are always good monkey bars. Those are great. I'll do it That's the number one way kids break their fucking arms. So yeah, my daughter broke her arm on a monkey bar I broke my arm in a monkey bar really at school like she broke it. Yeah, it's cool Yeah, and at school and at this that school is like boy that monkey bars really high off the ground Like these fucking kids are seven like this is crazy.

46:53I like that though And she's a little reckless ninja warrior. Yeah, well, that's what it is all these kids are just trying to have fun But they don't understand their limitations yet. That's why it's dangerous to have them in an environment like that Because they you know, but that's how you learn so good we were kids. They had those domes. Oh, yeah, climb inside kids were always trying To get their foot in it, but they fall this way. So just Rip apart those fucking things. What's the dome one? We had a we had an actual like circular one that was little triangles Yeah, we had one of those two and there was but there was one that was like it was like a half a circle Right, oh dome it was all these monkey bars inside of it and shit.

47:29Oh, yeah, like that's the one I had Yeah, we had that and like there was be like one bar missing sometimes like on the thing you be like What happened to our pages and fucking screws sticking out of it? Yeah, but kids always bang their head I bang my head a hundred times when those fucking it also forces creativity too because you like you know There's no iPad there. There's no like a video. There's no candy crush So you had to be like all right. This is our igloo that we're gonna protect I don't know. I wonder if that's good Everybody wants to like look back to days and everyone was bored and say and like romantically Yeah, when you make your own fun like I think about a video game We've been way more fun.

48:05Well, we had both I had the 90s. So we had both like when I was a kid We would play video games all night But during the day there was something fun about wrestling. You know like a human part of So we really were Making up things with guns and just like shooting each other and yeah, we kind of those before online media or online Oh, yeah, we're online playing video games either. It's just me versus my buddy I think the social media thing is the craziest part of it I think kids are just first of all they're weirdly connected because they all get on snapchat and then they have a snap map So they know where all their friends are at any given time.

48:41Yeah, and so they're they're constantly like paying attention to that And finding each other and they go in groups and they go to this party and oh there at this party Let's go to that party see him on the maps. They're adults that you just described adults There's not even kids anymore. They're little kids that are like traveling around with their friends with phones And they only talk through text messages. Yeah, that's adults. Yeah, but it sucks. Fuckin weird. It sucks a weird new life They still do like kids today. They still do physical things. They just do the sports, you know, but When we were kids the thing about Not having any other influences.

49:19Let's say especially like social media influences You didn't really aspire to be exactly like other people, you know, it's like there was People there was groups of people that you know, you gravitated towards being a jock you gravitated towards being an artist you grab But you didn't try to like completely Copy whatever trend is going on right now a days kids are they leave their fucking stupid label and they're They're Nike's like what is that what is that we're supposed to be cool to keep your fucking label on your night Yeah, the tag is like look, it's a limit edition. It's like it's not I may They made a bunch of it off.

49:58Oh, that's hilarious. I go cut that off. Oh, I go to you a sheep. Are you a little sheep? You got a fucking And he did he got off right I go I'm right. I love that. Yeah, everyone knows White label or whatever it is. What is it called? It's called an off white. Yeah, what is that it has that red tag on it? Yeah, it's stupid I cut it off right in the green room Daddy moment for him. Give him a knife. You give you would you say hey, I'm dad here. You need to this is nonsense You are not doing this. I love that. I gotta have a propeller on your hat Take that propeller. Take it off. I can't grow up.

50:37Yeah, you have to have that label when I was a kid Do's that have labels on their hats. I hate that they buy new hats and they leave the tag or the sticker on the bill is the one of my biggest pet peeves The sticker on the bill is stupid take that sticker off. Why do you have that shiny stupid sticker makes no sense to that's dumb Yeah, I I think that one thing that I do look backwards in and and think about and this is a mushroom thought for sure This came to me, you know, where's like I would sit my mom would go. Why do you need these expensive shoes for school? And I didn't have the intelligence at the time to explain it to her now But now I look back and I go I wish I'd said mom My whole social structure is based on this Because I don't have the internet which would later come out.

51:21I don't have these things When at least in the 90s and the in the late 80s when I was growing up Amber Schumacher was the hottest girl at our school Which meant Amber Schumacher's the hottest woman in our universe I didn't go online to go well Amber's not I didn't have anyone else. That's the hottest girl Right, you know, I'm saying the coolest guy in our school Anthony Medina was the coolest guy in the world because that's our world Whereas kids now could go who gives a shit about Anthony Medina right? I'm following LeBron and I'm fine So like we had our own little realities You know, so it's like I didn't give a shit about the The bulls necessarily but if Mike Jensen from my school said the bulls are cool.

51:58I like the bulls I didn't have anywhere to escape to I need to do what I can and I think even before me was probably even better than that I think like when cowboys roam to the earth that might have been number one. No You don't think so because here's why hear me out That cat let's say we're cowboys. We're on the ridge line. Yeah, and we it's sun going down. Yeah, sun's going down Kind of the house or the kind yeah, no, no, but we're real one We have a house, but we're now on the ridge line with our horses. Oh, we're on the road a few days Yeah, I'm a trail. I say buddy. Let's a sun's going down.

52:31Let's make a fire. Oh, okay All right, we got to brush the horses. We got to do a shoot We're eating our can we see all these twinkling lights out there and we go We got a picture of our lady and our wallet like man. Can't wait to get home to her You know say some dirty things about her and then I would eat my beans and then I'd say wonder what everyone's doing out there I would just wonder Did that is a really cute version of what it meant like to be a cowboy? Here's what it really was like You would stay up and I would sleep because we don't want anybody raping and killing us in the middle of the night Because the Indians have been following us from miles and we don't know they've been following us and we're too stupid Reverse by the way you stay up and I was stupid the cold camp.

53:10Okay, so we started a fire which makes you really easy to spot And they just wait until that fire starts getting dim and they hear snoring and they come in and they cut you up And they fuck you and they do whatever they want you're supposed to stay awake and well, I mean slaughter them We just only two of us was like seven or eight of them and you know back in the musket days. Yeah, there's a lot of reload Yeah, I get one of them That's why the command she's dominated this area because they they were using single shot guns Put your other Just sit in here peacefully the command she's they would not The command she's had multiple arrows on their fingers So they keep like four or five arrows and they would shoot one and they shoot another one Shoot another one.

53:53They were just fucking these dudes up. I bet it the only thing to save this entire state The only reason why people were able to conquer was the cult Brought pistol right when they figured out how to make a pistol with like a chamber it was cold, right wasn't it I think it was cold. So they they developed the They believe this or not at the time the military didn't want really they're like what are we doing with these six shots? We got one really good enough. Yeah, I didn't know that couldn't sell him. That's ridiculous. He sold him to the Texas Rangers Oh, that's a nice Smith that guy who's out in the hallway that photograph.

54:24That's why he's there That's that's the original Texas Ranger that I wasn't they want more bullets Quicker excessively like that because it's the government. They're always they always been retarded. That's ridiculous They were even retarded in the 1800s. So this was a novel invention Yeah, this guy figured out a revolver and it was like you had to take the cylinder out put a new cylinder in But every time he did he got five or six was it six shots or five So it was the first time ever you could fire multiple times. They just start fucking up these Indians Yeah, that was protection. Yeah, for sure.

54:51That's great It's these guys that like they dressed like Indians they fucking infiltrated. They cold camped They would go deep deep deep into like uncharted territory. Those were probably just bad guys pretending to be Indians to make the Indians look bad Oh, no, no, no, they were bad guys just but they were bad guys to go after the Indians. Yeah, they were bad guys No, but I saw where the fucking Indians. Oh for sure. They were bad to each other exactly They were also that's why I always get so mad about the debate about like well you came here like white people came here and did bet It's like dude.

55:21You think that they weren't all fighting for land here. They were all just fighting But they didn't ever ever ever surrender. Yeah, there was lots of tribes if they got if they surrendered They were tortured and murdered like the command she used to chop dudes arms off and legs off and then throw them while they're still alive on a roaring fire That's right watch them swarm around. Yeah, it was fun They were having a good time. I meant mentally earlier for my early analogy of the cute cowboy stuff No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, what I was saying is that mentally we didn't compare it was dangerous I believe I hear All that home on the range shit is straight up.

55:56No shit. What I mean is they didn't compare. All right, because they were, you hear that sound? Yeah, that's the real thing. Someone's raping an Indian lady. Right. You're fucking, you're gunshots and children screaming. You would think, oh, so what the Jeff dies with me? Is so what that he's funny, he's no Dave Chappelle. You didn't compare. But they did, like Billy the Kid. Like people became famous. They became infamous. These people that everybody wanted to be like Billy the Kid. Well, that was one guy that we try to be like. Right now I'd go big deal Billy the Kid. There's a guy in Japan that can shoot 70.

56:32Like the phone makes you have seven million. You don't even appreciate your wife learning guitar because you go, she's no Bob Dylan. You know, who gives a shit? So that's what I was trying to say. That's what I was really shitty, Osman. That's what the guys are saying. That guy's mean. But he's like, you know, you're a clap, you're big. What the fuck? She just started. Do they give her a break, dude? Yeah. But I meant mentally we didn't compare. I think we are not designed for it, but I think kids will be. I think the human mind is going to adapt to technology and interacting with each other. And I think socially people are adapting to interacting with each other.

57:07You know, like the way kids like go after each other online, like they're adapted to it. They're normalized to them. Just like, you know, if you live in a war torn part of the world seeing dead people, it normalizes to you. I think kids are normalizing to electronics. And people want to resist that. And they want to say, I don't let my kids use electronics. And like, it's part of the world. I use it. It's part of the world. It's not a barrier to being a good person. It's not a barrier to living a happy, healthy life. Just like alcohol is not a barrier. For some people it is. Some people have a real fucking problem with social media.

57:42And you see it, a lot of comics, especially the unsuccessful ones, when they start falling apart and they get older, just exacerbates their mental health. And then it becomes all politics. Yeah. These guys used to talk about farts and getting their dick sucked. Now it's all politics. And it's all like life hangs on every decision. Yeah. And where doom, right, takes place. Doom. You know what a comedian dude does that? It's Kathy Griffin. That guy does a lot of dude. Oh, you know what I mean? You just make a... That guy's unhinged. You go on there. It's all day. Just some doom and gloom. You think that that's because that's how they find meaning and an otherwise meaningless existence.

58:25What is it about it, people where their entire life becomes completely wrapped around politics? So the point where they're tweeting about it, literally all day long. And saying these things that they think are profound about all kinds of different issues. I think it's got to be some sort of virtue signaling. Like it's their way to go. Look at how good I am. It's also a way to show that you're relevant. You know, you're talking about the things that people care about right now and you're chiming in and saying the things that need to be said. You're being heard. You know, there's a lot of like weird...

58:57There's a lot of just... They want attention. There's a narcissism to a lot of it. But then there's also people that are capable of going online and having interesting discussions with people they don't know. And if you can manage that, you can actually get a lot out of like Twitter and X and all these different ways you can get a lot out of it. You can get a lot. But it's so hard to do. I know. Because it's like so, it's such a... It's like you're deciphering smoke signals. It's like the person's not even in front of you. You know, like you're getting these weird interactions with people. There's a lot of like, what does this kind of mean by that?

59:31Is he being shitty? Is he just being honest? Like what is this? Yeah, it's very tough to translate there. It's a sucky way to communicate. What are they doing? Like what is that? Where they trying to be funny right there? Where they trying, yeah, it's very tricky. Well, I'm very lucky and then I get to talk to so many interesting people. So I don't need to have as many interesting conversations online with people. Yeah, and also your comedian. My favorite thing about being a comedian is I get heard a lot. We get to be heard. Even when I'm wrong, I get to be heard. So like, is I... Is it gonna be wrong and still funny?

1:00:01Yeah, that's the beauty of it. Yeah, that was Patrice's whole acting. Yeah, 100%. I'm often sometimes wrong and it's just so funny to go, oh yeah, like I like this guy. It fits funny. And also this part of being wrong on purpose. I say things that I know is wrong on purpose because it's funny. It's funny. You're going for the last. Yeah, I'm just trying to be silly. I'm trying to be silly. That's what I like. That's the kind of comedy I like. Right. So I'm gonna do that and you can like it or you don't like it. 100%. What infuriates me is when people try to take jokes or talking shit and just conflate it and pretend that it's a statement.

1:00:36I know. It drives me crazy. Do not have any friends. I know. Do not have any friends. You don't joke. Yeah, exactly. You don't pretend. You don't want to have a relationship. You don't want to go to the right. It's because freedom of speech is a pretty big deal to us. Yeah. Naturally, it's a pretty big deal that we can say whatever we want. Because there's things. Racism is bad. But it is kind of funny sometimes. It's very funny. Sexism is bad. But it's pretty funny sometimes. Yeah. If it's well made. Yeah, it's funny. If it's funny enough. A solid meme. Great. Yeah, exactly. Things are funny.

1:01:07And people go, well, that's racist. You go, well, then it's racial and it's funny. But don't just assume that it's this blankly bad thing. Yeah, it's such a silly. Like it's funny no matter who gets it. Right. It's funny if white guys get it. It's funny if white women get it. It's funny if Indian guys get it. Yeah. Things are funny when people get it. When they get them jokes. Folks. And they don't care about the racial stuff when it's like a comic of any other race doing it. Right. You're like, if you're going to use that same measuring stick, go to the laugh factor. You could cancel all 12 comedians that are on stage, making easy racial remarks.

1:01:40But they're like, but he's Persian. I know, but it's still a racial remark, you know? Especially if you're cracking on white people. You could crack on white people as hard as you are now. It's great. Which is so vague too. I don't know if this is a smart idea or not, but it's something I always think is like, it's so vague. These shitty comics like Harry Condo Boulou are like white people, white people. What white people? Which one? French, Canadian, Dejou's count, Croatian. What a great lump you've done. All white? You know what me? Countries that covers? And then you go, well, that's why we're saying it because we don't mean a specific country.

1:02:14We're talking about it. But then, so then that's racist. You go, well, white's not a race. It's just a color of the, well, then how come black is a race? Because black would be Haiti. It would be tons of parts of Africa. You know, so I guess my point is like, then it's not racist when I say black. If it's not racist when you say white, because you're over -glamming a big thing. Yeah, it's ridiculous. Also, how much do white people vary? There's so many white people. They vary so much. It's so vague. To just say white men like, Oh, you must be rich because you're white. You're like, do you have any poor white people there?

1:02:49Go to Kentucky. Most of them are poor. Yeah, go to where the fucking coal mines are. Those coal mining communities where people have just been popping pills since the 80s. Meth? Yeah. Never have white trash. Like, we dominate the poor community. Have you ever seen the wild and wonderful whites of West Virginia? Yeah, dude, Jessica white. Fucking dancing skills. Didn't Johnny Knoxville produce that? That's how I saw it. I don't know if it's Johnny Knoxville, but Jack Hole productions or whatever it was. Yeah, I think Knoxville made that. It's fucking incredible. Oh, amazing. But that's white people too.

1:03:22Yeah. Okay, these poor white people are, they're just a victims of their environment, man. They're teaching college kids that like, if you're a stray white guy, they just hand you suitcases full of money and that you have no troubles. And the cops don't target you. It's a cops. Do you see what Trump said today? I'll send this to you, Jamie, because this is wild. This is a wild move. I'll send this to you, Jamie. It is what he said about colleges. Oh, I love it. And DEI endowments. I love it. Oh, I'll send this to you, Jamie. He's doing so much crazy shit. This episode is brought to you by Visible.

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1:06:54Puberty blockers for kids like stop that. And you even called them out for that expression, gender affirming kids. It's a crazy, like a literal dystopian euphemism for what you're doing. And he said Marxists multiple times. And people are going to go, they're not Marxists. Do you know BLM self -proclaimed themselves as Marxists? So you can find hundreds of times where they say we are Marxists. So before anybody comments, well, they're not really, they've called themselves as Marxists. Yes. I think a lot of people like blank at least support that just because it seems like a smart idea. Yeah, Black Lives Matter, of course they do.

1:07:34Yeah, there's cops have killed people. We've seen it. Okay, yeah, it's definitely good to support that. But then you find out all the other stuff behind it. And then you find out that the people that were running it were fucking bi -read and say, do a little homework. They gave all your money to trans people. They didn't help the black community at all. It's not only going to tax, but confiscate endowments of every university, the Department of Justice finds has engaged in illegal discrimination under the guise of equity, which is basically every university in the country, but it's especially true with the Ivy League, which is if this happens, we'll die.

1:08:06They will crush, oh, okay. But this is, you know what suffers the most from this discrimination? From discrimination is Asian people. Do you know why? Because Asian people score so high and they work so hard, they make it more difficult for them to get it. They have to have higher grades and they have to have a higher score. They like, they score them based on like social interaction which is crazy. With, if you're studying 18 hours a day, like a lot of these Asian people. I'm gonna win. Yeah, well, it's their culture. Their culture is this like, nose to the grindstone. Disappard work, discipline culture.

1:08:42I had a buddy of mine. And no one in America's mad at them for succeeding. We encourage it. It's good. I had a buddy of mine that was a national Taguando champion while he was going through his medical residence. He was Korean and his no matter what he did. This guy won the nationals. He was the national Taguando champion and he wasn't like talented either. It wasn't like he was like, it was 100 % hard work. And this fucking guy like would work all day long at school and then put his books in his backpack and walk up stairs to get a workout in. I love it. He would just do flights of stairs over and over and over and while he was at school because he had to do something and then go back to school.

1:09:20One of the fucking nationals looked at that. And that's like beautiful. It's this kind of crazy work ethic that some Asian households and still in their children. And it's tough to compete with them. So what they've done is they've, you know, there's been lawsuits about it. I believe Harvard was sued, right? Was Harvard sued? That they were discriminating against Asian Americans? So they have like ways that what they're saying is with the, what they were complaining was that there's ways that they have that like accentuate certain attributes like that let you get in like think social things that you do, different things that you do that give you extra points.

1:09:57They felt like was designed just to keep less Asian people into like crazy to push some of them out because so many of them were getting in there and dominating. Dominating the fucking people. But that's great. Yes. Well, this is meant if you come from the best. How hardworking household and you develop that work ethic, you can, you might not be happy. That's part of the problem. Well, I like that they complain about their tiger moms and you like, dude, they made you successful. Right. You got to figure out how to be happy. Right. That's up for you to do. This is it. The lawsuit, a threat to what happened?

1:10:29An organization created by anti -race conscious admissions activists, Edward Blum, citing itself students for fair admission sued Harvard, a legend that the university discriminates against Asian Americans and seeking to prevent Harvard College and other colleges and universities from using a wide ranging and thorough admissions process that considers the whole person. Love that. Interesting. So this, that's interesting though, because on paper, that sounds like a good thing. A wide ranging and thorough admissions process that considers the whole person. If you want to educate a child, right, you want a kid to go from being a young teenager to being an adult and you're educating them, there is a social aspect to it, right?

1:11:14Like you don't want to develop like complete sociopaths, it just go to work. But you can't also, you can't like stop that option. Like there's, people want a quality of outcomes. It's a very important point, but there's not a quality of effort that just isn't. And in the mad dog race of life, you're occasionally going to get a Michael Jordan. You're going to get a guy who works harder than everybody and he's gifted and he's going to exceed. He's going to pass you home and there's nothing you could do about it. Nothing you do about Mike Tyson when he was 22 years old. Get the fuck out of the way.

1:11:47Pick up tennis. Yeah, he's going to kill you. He's going to kill you. You want to be number two, maybe? You want to be number two. You're eventually going to get to have fight number one. And that's not going to be a lot of fun. It's going to be a hurt. The world's not fair, right? And that guy, when he saw the way he trained, when he was a young man, he trained like a person possessed. He lived and watched Carl Maldon. Yeah. He was obsessed with fighting. It's all he had. And talented and gifted. So if you have those things altogether, the world is not fair. And you can't make it fair with laws and you can't make it fair with rules and it doesn't make you any better to suppress someone in some sort of a way by diminishing their success.

1:12:26And that includes someone who's a fucking complete psychopath who studies 18 hours a day and dominates and starts a business when they're 19 because a billionaire by the time they're 26 and then all of a sudden, you know, buys Twitter from Elon Musk, you can't stop that. Ask one of these crazy people who doesn't understand these kind of things or has never even thought of it. Yeah. Say, oh, you know, you're watching, I noticed you're watching the WNBA game. Do you think it's unfair that Brittany Griner makes more than her teammates? And they'll go, no, she's the best. Right. Right. Right. That's the best.

1:12:56Just like anyone else that's the best. Yeah. Makes more money. How can you, how can you understand that Brittany Griner makes more than her teammates? But you can't understand that the NBA generates more money and is better makes more than the WNBA. How can you in brain? Well, what people get scared of is the amount of control and power that you have with that kind of money. And then some people want to make decisions for all of us. Like Bill Gates, like one of the wackiest ones he's talking about, like blocking the sun, putting particles in the sky to block the sun to cool the earth. Like, hey, fuckhead.

1:13:29And maybe not. There's a whole lot of people on earth. You don't get to say it for all of us. You don't even talk for all of us. Just because you have $100 billion. That's crazy talk. Right. That's what people are scared of. What people are scared of is that when you really do have ultimate money and ultimate power, with most people, there's this desire to control people. It's part of the gig. And some of them, when they decide they don't want to go into politics, they start like influencing things behind the scenes. They start donating. They have funds. They have a giant fund and their fund donates to all these different organizations.

1:14:03And Bill Gates, in case it prevented them from criticizing it, because the Bill and Melinda Gates have this and they donate all this money. These media corporations and all these companies. Look at all the money they've given you to help global health. And whatever the fuck it is. But what it really does is it buys off people from criticizing it. And then you start doing a wild shit, like telling everybody that you need plant -based food and you fucking buy all the foreign land. You start controlling people. Just like people like to pull strings on people. The George Soros' of the world. He scares me so much.

1:14:33I'll get DAs elected and then put a even more progressive DA to go in after him and see if you can fuck with things by letting people out of jail and defunding the cops. And it's like they're playing these weird monopoly games with the whole world. You know what you saw at the, like a great example was, when Brock Abomac got into office, Michelle Abomac's whole thing was like nutrition. Like that was what she was gonna like really work on. And dude, it was almost like after two weeks, someone brought her in the back as like, listen bitch. Yeah, you're saying about the food industry. I don't know if you know how much bread we're putting in your husband's pockets.

1:15:06And then she immediately was like, maybe fitness. Maybe your kids could run around 10 minutes a day. How about that? Is that better? She gave up the food stuff. She gave up the food stuff. It just was immediately. What was that, James? Is that the same thing? No, I just - I didn't have it immediately. Oh, sorry. But then it was like all of it, all the focus went towards, Hey, just 10 minutes a day, have your kids go outside and play. It was all the food stuff gone. Wow. Yeah, and you realize, oh, there are other things. You know, there's like all these other things that are at play. What's that?

1:15:36It's other things. It's millions and billions of dollars. When you're that far ahead of the game, you know, if you're playing a game and you cannot beat the game, there's no way to beat it. You're on level one, there's a million levels. The people that have been playing it, that you're playing against, they've been playing for 30 years, they have all the armor, they've got all the magic spells. You're not going to win that game. And that is what people are really scared about with people who have a lot of money. Is that they don't just have a boat, they don't just have a house, but then they start influencing what people can and can't do.

1:16:10Then they start funding studies to talk about particular types of energy, because they've got an enormous amount of money invested in this green renewable energy, whatever it is. But what it really is is money. They're not ever doing anything for you. Ever, whether it's climate change, or whatever the full, there is energy, it's always money. And they'll flavor it. Yeah. With it's for you, it's for us. Right. We have to worry about the environment. We have to worry. Didn't Al Gore become the first guy to make a billion dollars off of climate change? I know he's definitely the face of it for a long time.

1:16:47But I read that, that Al Gore could be bullshit. But I read that, that Al Gore was the first climate change billionaire. Interesting. Things that he'd invested in that movie that he put out that scared the fuck out of me. Oh yeah, we're all like, we got to do something. Yeah, I saw that. By the way, not a single thing. Not a single thing was accurate, not even close. Not even close. Might as well have been made by Michael Moore. Because he might as well just been. Michael Moore is more accurate. He was, at least back in the day, you watch Roger and me. Michael Moore in the early days made some great films.

1:17:17Well, I think a lot of it was just bullcrap. Not the first one. Not Roger. Remember when he like, he did a scene where like these kids go into a bank and they buy a gun over the counter from the bank. And I was like, yeah, it was a of his gun one, bowling for Columbine or whatever. And I remember seeing that scene as like, I worked at a Hollywood video at the time and I was like, this is terrifying. We got to get rid of these guns. And then I looked into it years later when the internet kind of grew and I was like, oh, total bullshit. I was like, I'm made up seen. Made up a scene. Yeah, which that's why we weren't even allowed at Hollywood video to keep Michael Moore's movies in the documentary section.

1:17:49We weren't even allowed to keep it in that section. Really? Because it's not counted as a documentary. Oh, see, it didn't used to be like that. I kind of, I'm going to be honest. I don't think I watched bowling for Columbine. I might have it was so long ago, but I do remember Roger and me being very impactful because it was about the auto industry moving out of Flint, Michigan. Oh, yeah, yeah. And about how the town called, I was just in Pittsburgh and you see all these abandoned warehouses where Americans used to work. Yeah. And you go, oh, wasn't it better with Chinese slaves making you $300 sneakers?

1:18:17Like, no, it's not better. It's not better at all. It's not better for anybody. Yeah. It's crazy what they did and they just did it for money. They did it for money. The ship's over things overseas because they can get people to work for nothing, which is so crazy. I know. That you can't do it here, but you do it there. That's why I was talking to this person who ran a plant in Mexico. We were getting a little tipsy and I didn't like what he said. They were justifying this procedure of doing that. And they were trying to tell me that these people would starve to death if it wasn't for that plant.

1:18:49I go, those people have been there for thousands of years. Yeah. I go, and you know why they don't have any money? Probably because we bribe their government. Right. We gave them loans. They couldn't pay off and then we took all their resources and then we moved plants over. And the pollution of the plants is like just insane too. Like they live in fog -filled cities. We can go back to the entire areas run by the cartel because we have drugs illegal in this country unless they're prescribed. Yeah. And then you have the sack of the 700 dollars. Nobody's worried about that slavery. Nobody wants to talk about slavery that we abolished in this country.

1:19:25Right. Everyone wants to talk about that slavery, but not a slave -made -it -bone. But not the current slavery that made this or my shoes or all the things you want to Where or how about the sex trafficking? How about the women that are slaves right now? Well, how about that? Let's get to work on that probably been smuggled across the border We don't even know what those numbers are if I put together enough money, right? I'm not super rich, but I've got some money if I put together like my life mission is to fix that they just kill me in a month Go ahead. No chance. What are you doing dude? Tell jokes and talk about baseball?

1:19:58Why are you trying to help in something that matters? Yeah, I'm trying to shut down the cartel and you live in a normal house. I'd make it a week You go what happened to Jeff? That's a billion dollar a month business You're right. The fuck are you talking about why I gotta let you get away with that? Oh wait. Oh you yeah, they kill everybody Why would they kill you? So you've got all these problems and and then you know Shipping things shipping these factories to these other places. It doesn't keep you from starving to death It's just we were doing an unethical thing like you can't do it on this patch of dirt But if you just move it to that patch right now you can do unethical now it's fine.

1:20:33Yeah, what is a casino cruise ship? Not only that like now that we know so they did that back then when there's no internet You know you sneak it across the boat nobody I am still my I got my car is five dollars cheaper Yeah, you don't care Yeah, and so everybody you hear some stories about Michigan if you don't live there hand whatever I'm over here in LA Right go fuck exactly. I got a nice car, but your car is made in Mexico and it's like right we we don't even realize Like what the impact that was but now that we have the internet now you can see it and we still do it right like we It's like it's grandfathered in that you buy your phone from a company that uses slaves 100 % and the factories literally have nets around I'm right people from jumping off and we're like okay, and also I'm not pretending I'm better than anyone else right like I promise that But I don't yam Iran on my social media about slavery all day right?

1:21:22I'm aware that I'm in this system or this network It's just so hypocritical when I hear like LeBron talk about slavery that happened in our country over a hundred years ago While he's dripping in Nike Do you how dumb can you be to pretend to care about slavery while you're making oh what a billion or something from from Nike over the thing that if you are a Person that is in mainstream world acceptance whether a sports star or you know any kind of media personality There's like certain things you feel Obligated to call out and to talk about I would think so I only know how I would behave and I like I just think there's honest money and then there's dishonest money and I've never had this stomach for me like the money They paid the people to endorse comma Harris dishonest money Be Beyonce Even legal Did you know that was even legal?

1:22:18It shouldn't be legal the vote the the view keeps yammering about a Elon Musk shouldn't be allowed or you know I saw if you know yesterday about you oh the Joe Rogan's of the world or influence you like oh That's that that feminist guy Yeah, and like they're so mad say that there's this Multi -billion dollar right -wing ecosystem that's been developed just like a terrorist network that radicalizes young people like What by talking to scientists? I'm telling to be good guys to tell him to be honorable to their partner radical radical radical Also, let me ask you on air for this podcast how much money did Donald Trump give you to endorse him?

1:23:00$100 million no, he didn't give you nothing gave you zero Joe he gave you zero because you thought I think that this is what's best for the country as a given the two options I know I knew the resistance that it would face but I think it's beyond say get 10 million dollar 10 million hold on she talked for like three minutes. That's good What do you mean that's good? I mean that's enough. That's too much now now. It's plenty. It's perfect 10 million It's a good deal the taxpayers money. I mean it's a good deal all these people that are like donating money to the Democratic party and They went to be on say you The crazy thing mutants there are 20 million dollars.

1:23:37They spend a billion dollars They're 20 million dollars in debt and Trump offered to pay their debt He's like we have a lot of money left over because most of our media was too gold it earned media I had to look it up so earned media is essentially whenever he's in the news Yeah, or when he's getting interviewed on shows or on podcasts. Yeah, that's earned media And that's what he did well I just love people go why are you getting so passionate about this Jeff? It's like it's right in front of your eyes right you you have to pay someone 10 million to endorse a But then like B is doing it for free because they believe in that like idea which one seems more nefarious Pro M &M took 1 .8 1 .8 How do we know that's true because I said it?

1:24:20I know that I have no evidence that supports this stuff I think it's all legit some of them being asked and said I was not paid but wait a minute Oprah was paid There was an FEC thing she would her her company was paid to host an event Okay, they paid her company a million dollars dude. I'm just saying that's right right right right What happened and that where they listed it right right right right just she was not made her Million dollars what what did she do that hosted an event? Did she put together an event like catering event campaign finance? I'll try put on the screen show that they paid the Harpo productions for event production It's paid for post live streaming event.

1:24:58Uh -huh, which I don't know much that Production costs of a live stream event that could be money said she was not paid a personal fee for the event She said I was paid nothing, but right, but they she didn't donate her company to do this she She got paid for it. That's right. I don't know like so this is where I got it So she got a gig is essentially what it is. She got a million dollar gig Five million to Megan the stallion three million to Lizzo 1 .8 for M &M That's in this article, but it doesn't show like one million for Oprah that could be made up. Okay. It's his an Instagram list I didn't make it up, but I That's what I wanted to be real.

1:25:37I want it to be real. Yeah Well, if I I mixed me believe in our earth better if they didn't if they just did it for free It makes me believe in the earth better if they did it Because I don't want to think that M &M really believed that shit It's always not a people that do this you went out there for 1 .8 There's no federal records showing campaign payments to M &M or Megan the stallion So when it's his mostly false like where that rumor emanate from someone put it on Instagram and it goes around people run Wild with it because it sounds fun damn. I thought it was fun. Yeah, it is fun I'm wrong.

1:26:13I'm willing to it You know I read it and I'm my blood boil. Yeah, I go what is going on beyond say one is crazy There's no evidence that it's true. It might be true Doesn't mean it's not just no current Mostly false, but this is political it could be a rumor that Politifact is Oh, gosh. Well, if it's not true, then it's not true But let me tell you if it is true that that league crazy is that legal? Was it is it legal to pay Beyonce $10 million to talk at a political rally? I don't think so there's all these like little companies. I would pay her that much that seems crazy That doesn't create desperate times.

1:26:52Yeah, but she doesn't need the money No, I'm she desperate times for the campaign trail and then they go I was gonna endorse her anyways I'll just do it for you know a little fee My time is worth money my private plane cost money. Can you cover that you know? Well, it seems suspicious You know because when someone's got that kind of money to do something that people are gonna look down upon if they find out if it's true Yeah, that's what makes me skeptical because like someone who has that kind of money for her $10 million dollars. It sounds crazy to say this but I believe that for Beyonce and Jay -Z $10 million is not noticeable So I'm gonna change their life at all no change the life, but but you still notice like I think they're billionaires dude They are Beyonce's got almost a billion.

1:27:30Yeah, I think he has a billion as well I don't think they're gonna notice so that's like not gonna change your lifestyle But it could get you out of your house to go do a thing that puts you in the news Yeah, does that what you months? Well think about the Super Bowl all those people that perform the Super Bowl half time get paid $0 right, but it's a tremendous Advertisement but they do it, but they perform she wasn't even performing. She's just talking I Mean maybe maybe 10 million bucks of 10 million bucks. You can't help it even if you've got two billion dollars in the back But part of me is like I Maybe I'm just looking at how I would look at it.

1:28:03I wouldn't do shit Yeah, well I always thinking this may be my naivety to like rich people is that like they don't have to be bought anymore because they're rich Like you think that that's how I think about it is that like I wouldn't do anything against It's easier to do things against my moral compass when I was broke You'd say Jeff. We'll give you five hundred dollars go steal this thing cuz I'd be like you know I need 500 bucks. Whereas like now I can be a little more generous with my money I can be a little more ethical because I'm I'm in a place where I don't have to worry about the five hundred dollars Isn't worth breaking some ethical code for me right?

1:28:35But money isn't your existence if for some people money is a some score of how well they're doing in life And they get addicted to numbers they get addicted to this idea of Constantly yeah, and they compare themselves to all the other people fox. This is from Fox News They have rewatched into the examiner reporting that money was spent in ways. I guess you could argue maybe Well, they spent six figures build building the set for caller daddy But that seems that people are saying that's outrageous, but that's not that outrageous a hundred thousand dollars You build a set you have to lease a building you have to bring in cameras and all that shit I could see that being a hundred thousand dollars campaign spent at least fifteen million dollars on event production FEC record show with many payments lining up with high profile events and concerts with celebrity attendees or performers And that's how you do it because it's a performance right so you can pay them to perform that's the difference That's the difference the truth is just an epic disaster This is a one billion dollar disaster Linda Linda Lee Harris surrogate and DNC national finance committee member told Fox and friends weekend on Saturday So they did they just definitely spent a lot of money Harris campaign cut multiple six figure paychecks in September for left -leaning groups that have been vocal about Defunding the police reparations that are tied to radical activists who have supported notorious anti -Semite Lewis Farricon fox news digitally previously reported that's wild so they cut checks to left -leaning groups So they spend money to get people to talk about they give it to the groups the groups pay the performers and the people This big well not well you also the groups like you're paying them to be vocal yeah like by saying I cut multiple Six figure checks like you're funding these people to go out and do these things the FEC camp FIling 50 FF also spent north at fifty six million dollars on payroll and payroll taxes in just three months Yeah, that's crazy that payroll is is your performers And you also show the campaign gave an excess of a hundred million dollars to various consulting and marketing firms Including gambit strategies LLC due Pont Circle Strategies LLC and bully pulpit interactive LLC That is so crazy.

1:30:52They gave those folks a hundred million dollars Yeah, so like one million dollars M &M could have been lost in there, but I'm just saying that yeah, no there it is you have to find the evidence Right well, I think with a guy like M &M, too He doesn't like performing like he's you know he has a Gora phobia like he's like he doesn't like leave in the house Which is crazy. I saw him he killed it. I saw him over here at the racetrack really played at Coda Yeah, it was awesome. It was like a hundred thousand people were there because it was uh, I don't know what the real numbers I might have made that up but a lot a lot of people because it was there people were there for formula one And they have this enormous place like I saw the stones there and I think it was I mean how many people's Coda seat I Mean it had to be 80 ,000 people's one of the biggest crowds have ever seen was insane Uh, once I saw M &M there.

1:31:40He was great, but he performed so rarely my buddy was at an F1 thing recently and like it one of the concerts that was performing afterwards or something or Maybe it was just F1. I don't know. Maybe there wasn't a concert. Whatever it was Michael Jordan was just hanging out Michael Jordan had a hat on a hood on he had like the things over his ears from the noise of the car And my buddy's like hey man like I you know And then Jordan took like a selfie with them chatted him up for a few minutes That I was like that's how popular it's getting yeah like you said the M &M was performing at an F1 thing Yeah, yeah, he performed that you know, they had the race the races and then one night he performed that's crazy I think he performed Sunday night or Saturday night.

1:32:16I saw just how post Malone there too He was just there two weeks ago doing his country show. Yeah, he's doing like it's great I love that dude. It's the best he's so much fun. He's such a fun dude too. Just fun to hang out with him too Get to see him. We give him a 100 ,000 people 100 ,000 so it was just in fucking saying huge crowd. He killed it too So but he doesn't like to do shows so for to get him out there for a political event You got to come with the cheddar. Yeah, he better play the guy Especially doesn't do a lot of shows a year. Yeah, one point eight will go a long way. Yeah, I live in Detroit pretty easy Living there's not that not that steep.

1:32:55Yeah, you know, I think that you I also think that it's People care about money, you know, yeah, well, especially if you're a person who thinks about money all the time That's what I was saying about like I know rich dudes. I know dudes who are billionaires Who get uncomfortable with them when they're around hundred billionaires because they feel like losers That's wild. It's hilarious to my break my brain It's like when you showed me all the planets and a row and I was going like that's what you just did with money Because there's always layers to it like I'm pretty wealthy, but I'm very poor compared to my friend Elon Yeah, like I'm a popper.

1:33:29I'm like a dude living in a studio apartment compared to that guy Like that's what it's like. I don't know like there's like crazy levels to it, but also He works in a way. I am not willing to do he doesn't sleep That's one thing people don't talk about these really even Bill Gates whether you agree with him or not like the dude was willing to like sleep like a fish where you dig like he'd sleep for like 15 minutes and wake up and program again Like he worked really hard yeah to become Bill Gates. Oh, yeah There's no doubt and without Microsoft like who knows where we'd be without the windows operating system.

1:33:59Oh my god It was fucking everywhere. It was everything. He's also cured like 500 things These like small like little non -profits will say well, there's this disease called this you go how much you need They go a million bucks we think maybe and then he just gives them a money and then they close they go What are we gonna work on now we cured it? You know, yeah? About that. Well, that's what I've Is this another one of these ones I got wrong Yeah, let's ask you to just put in throw capitalism Okay, and philanthropism is your act like a philanthropist, but you're making a lot of money through this Like he invested a lot of money in the mRNA vaccines and that's why he was promoting it He made like 500 million dollars sure then after he dumped a stock start talking shit about it There wasn't really that good the virus wasn't that dangerous like what yeah, where was this guy?

1:34:47Well, but I'm saying like all these I don't know how to look up if he's cured any diseases or anything. I don't know how you looked that up So wait a look at them they've invested in efforts to develop cures for those for diseases for sure They've also invested in fix it No, no the only one I know that's close. I think a sickle cell, but I think they didn't they just pull back We would have heard about that they cured sickle so yeah, I thought that he cured all these small ones You know where sickle cell came from no came from a resistance to malaria really not crazy Yeah, the people that experienced malaria that's tracked down in their genes and they pass it on to their ancestors That's where sickle I had a buddy my name died from sickle cell When I was a kid a guy used to do type 1 know with do name Walter awesomely talented guy, but like he would get like real sick man He just couldn't train couldn't come in for months Yeah, there was a new drug that came out this year I think that they thought was gonna be like ending it, but they've had to quickly pull it off Brought to you by Pfizer some people of course died They died from it Anticipated number higher than an anticipated number of deaths reported in trials.

1:35:51Yeah indicated the benefits of the drug no longer outweighed the risks So it kills people He's just like I guess that's a solution of sorts. There's been so many of those drugs You know 33 % is that what it is 30 something percent of all drugs the FDA approves get pulled Like whoopsies We tried what it was a matter, you know, you ever heard that book. I think it's called like a 19 I don't know the name of the book. It's named after a year 1984 I think it's not the George or well book. No, not George. It's called That would be ridiculous It's a what's it about I'm trying to look in my in my audible for this book But the basically the premise is this guy cures cancer.

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1:37:54No, it's a Listen to a lot of books. What's it called there? I'll find it. Okay, but the The The premise is this guy cures cancer and then ever and ever at first everyone's great He becomes the richest guy in the world. Everyone's happy that he cured cancer but then Then people start to resent him because they're like you know, I should have already had my inheritance by now This guy's playing God keeping my parents alive longer than they should they're becomes like these ideas of like No, he's wrong for doing this He's affected society like there's no real estate being freed up as quick now People should just die however they die naturally and the it's it's so fun little yeah, it's not obviously not real or nothing But the the it was an interesting kind of way to look at things Well, that's a sociopaths way of looking at things imagine that like what you're thinking is if someone dies I get their style.

1:38:45I know they just die it's disgusting But I could see how groups would start to think that you know like that's how like like life is you may be do a good idea look at the Systems that we put in place like back in the day and now everyone looks like that was just their way to trap people in the project She like at first it was like a really nice idea like that they wanted to give people that couldn't afford places in the city But it's all been That's why how people reacted that one dude is trying to live to be 2000 years old you know that one guy who's gets like young guys Blood injected in the way just do anything things and it's like I see so many people mad at him if everybody lived Everybody lived 500 years the whole world would be overcrowded.

1:39:24Yeah But even everyone's not trying to do it. Yeah, also if I could give you a pill and you'd be healthy Just take this one pill you'll be healthy for 150 years. You're not gonna take a shot the fuck up It's called 2030 by Albert Brooks. Oh, okay 2030 But it's interesting. It's just kind of like yeah, cuz you start to do see how like over time people just miss Construed things enough time goes by People are willing to do all sorts of mental gymnastics. I mean that's how this whole gender affirming care thing We would never let kids get tattoos. We let them get their dicks chopped off like yeah says who like why what 30 years ago If you said that we'd be debating or even right having to have a conversation that's controversial about whether a guy can be a woman They would laugh in the streets at us, you know, and now it's real So I just like that's kind of how the book does a really good job of describing like they would just resent that After a while they would hate him for carrying cancer something people would there's always gonna be weak bitches in this world And they exist so that you just you're talking about your parents.

1:40:24I don't want to be like that. Yeah, that's what weak bitches are therefore They're weak behavior jealous behavior you learn from it. You go. Oh, okay. I see what that guy's doing I'll ever want to be like a guy. I feel like that with the ton of people in my life right now hell Yeah, they're gonna always that they're there. They're always gonna be there There's some people that just they're not gonna keep up and you can't keep him in your life either You just can't you got to keep moving yeah, some people are never gonna run out of problems And they're never gonna run out of friends to throw those problems out.

1:40:54Yeah, I was telling you this early But like like the day after the election like I like walk up with my buddies just sitting there and I was about to open up my phone for the first time Since the Trump wins the election. I just took a deep breath. I was like I'm gonna lose a lot of friends today Is about to post some shit and like just like I was so you not losing friends though You're losing friends that weren't really your friends. They were friends with conditions. Mm -hmm You know Ron white is a giant comma hair supporter believe it or not Ron white always votes blue Yes, one of them low information voters like you start to give it in facts.

1:41:27He falls apart But he'll fucking tell you that guy shouldn't be the fucking president. He's like good president Yeah, please. I love him to death. Yeah, my best friends I don't care. I think she's work. That's how it's supposed to work Is a different political ideas? Yeah, there's different ways of thinking about things. That's fine It's broke my heart that a lot of people have treated me the way because I feel like people were fine with conservative Jeff they're they knew that I'm a Christian and that I'm That I lean you know right and especially now lean even more right and then But they didn't really draw a line until I became like supportive of Donald Trump Like that's when they drew a line and they go we don't want to talk to you I don't think I move and that broke my heart.

1:42:07I didn't I don't think I move right at all I stayed but the but the whole thing is moved that's what I'm saying That's I haven't changed many of my thoughts. It's just that it's gone I've been what was a rep what was a Democrat is now Republican There's a few of my thoughts that I I used to like be all in on the now I'm like And this is like just about like human psychology like I was all in on universal basic income Which I think is going to be necessary in the future because I think automation And it's something Andrew Yang talked about when he was running for president I think he's correct That automation and AI is going to just consume so many especially AI It's going to consume so many jobs There's going to be so many people that have to like rethink their life and figure it out And I think if we don't compensate those people somehow or another We're going to have a real fucking chaotic problem on our hands just to keep people happy and healthy I think universal basic income might be the way to go But I always think like hey, maybe if we gave you universal basic income to people Then you know, they would still be ambitious But they'd be ambitious and like pursuing their own career or developing their own business or you know taking that money and using it to be free But now I think that Human nature if you give people there's so many people that if you don't give them a difficult problem to solve And if you provide them with all their needs their food and their shelter they just get lazy So there's what you don't like right So there's two things going on simultaneously It's one we have to address the fact that there is no way to get around the fact that automation and AI is going to consume a lot of jobs And I think universal basic income is probably the only solution for some of those people But then there's also the psychology aspect of it Like if you do tell people you never have to work again Most people never have to work again and they're going to regret it someday One day they're going to look at all these people they admire That have accomplished things that live these fun, exciting lives, successful lives And they'll get a fear of envy and they're going to feel despair and they're going to feel like they could have done something more with their life But they got trapped the sirens song of comfort Yeah, they're into the rocks.

1:44:07That's the devil the comfort 100 % like like all my friends right my friends Not all my friends, but during like COVID they're like what am I going to do and this is like really stressful And I don't have any right and then they got their government money right for for you know being out of work And you know what they did Joe they bought guitars and baseball cards And it's like I don't think you were as struggling as you thought you were Like it's never enough. Yeah, no, so it's like you've got it like if you give them they'll say well This isn't basic and this basic income. It's not enough for me to really live Because what is really living you know like so it's just always going to be more right?

1:44:48So it's like it's flustering to try to solve that you know the hard work's the answer Well, you're not going to feel happy with no purpose and that is another thing that we found during COVID One of things like people were so at each other's throats at during COVID Because everyone is at home They were all fucking bored and they all just freaking out and just like Attacking people over every where are fucking fast? I know like everyone is either mine. I lost my mind It's like most people did especially if you're seeing your life go away because you maybe you've worked 30 years develop a business Then all sudden some new thing comes along you have to shut your business down for a year and a half Not gonna work.

1:45:27I don't have money right and you can't get alone and like oh my god in the the least payments for the building They keep coming in. Yep. What am I gonna do and then you're on to all small businesses that they claim they care about They crushed so many fucking restaurants. Yeah, they almost crushed the comedy store Oh, I haven't made money in six months and now a different group's gonna break the windows out of that place that I didn't even So all at the same time. Yeah, that's enough to make people and people saying defund the police at the same time Yeah, you're like oh, this is great That's enough to change my political opinions and it's enough for psychopath to grab a gun and go Hey, maybe don't knock out the windows of my store.

1:46:03Yeah, it was just too much at once If someone comes along from the left that is an objective sensible person that's making sense of like immigration foreign policy Then I'm still left right. I'm still saying person. I'm still is because socially I'm left on almost everything on almost everything that the you know The hard right is to me just like the hard left the crazy fucks that are out there in the fringes And they they sort of defined the left and defined the right for everybody like you define the right by like white supremacists KKK you define the left by antifa like Jesus Christ most people are like right here sure most people are like I just want rules and law and everybody be kind and healthy and a prosperous society and no pollution Yeah, I feel like we could all work together and do a better job of all these different things But like Jordan Peterson says who's like my favorite human in the world?

1:46:59I love him so much But he was saying like it's really easy to identify and Rebuke the far right like we're very good at identifying it and going I devout or disavow or whatever the term is we get We don't want that yeah, but then with the left the very extreme left We kind of celebrate it and we post it and we brag about it and we go look how good I am I think they thought we finally we have thugs You know, yeah, that it's one of those things I'm against the far left. It's the bullies I am in the far right. It's the bullies. It's the bullies on both sides The people that just want to use a group and have them a bunch of people they're all together in attack Yeah, I just go smash windows and light things on fire and then there's also they get funded to do that too Yeah, all this shit that you're seeing where the the farest the where they funded all these different organizations People fund through political through packs.

1:47:51They're all sorts of different methods fund all sorts of organizations Donate all sorts of organizations is some of these organizations cause problems Yeah, and they do it because they want them to do it. They want problems. Yeah, they're like doing black spots When you see stacks of bricks laying around. Yep I'm not buying it. I'm not buying this someone left $30 ,000 worth of bricks around they were just doing construction Just conveniently happened at the same time the protest is here Everyone loves coincidences But it's just you know and that is another group thing You know about being a part of the group if you're a part of a group that's yelling and lighting things on fire You know much fun.

1:48:35I must be oh yeah for that. Yeah, it's happening You're doing it to support black people who knows I'm the best yeah exactly slide off starbucks Yeah, you know starbucks is like what did I do? I didn't do anything yeah, at least when I support a my group. I didn't get a free Xbox You know saying like that's I don't think you really care about what you believe in if you're getting lamps and shit and then in New York They have the dumbest way of handling it. They just let people burn themselves out. It's crazy That the blasio was the worst. I know it's funny. It's real name. No. Yeah. What's the blasio's real name?

1:49:09It's some crazy like villain name his real name's mookie beds. No, it's like a villain is these sounds like a like a villain What's his real name He changed his name to fit it with Warren will hold you in the hand June or build the butt. Yeah, yeah Yeah, that's a fucking that's an evil name Yeah Warren will mel junior. I like to call myself Jeff dyes Jeff dyes senior and people like oh is your son. Oh, no Yeah, no, but if I you know just Jeff dyes senior if I ever kid it's my half -jump junior. Yeah, but Jeff senior Jeff senior Yeah, I'm just preparing for your job. Rogan senior This is fucking so funny though.

1:49:52They got changes named to make it ethnic. Oh, yeah, the blasio Hey, the blasio to me Right on the guy got but the goo yeah the blasio knows I take care of you eat the fries get a vaccine come on William What happened? No, no bill Are you are you old man will him's kid, you know? No, no, no, no, that's not me. That's really not me I'm the guy who pays taxpayers money to interpretive dance performers with masks on the mill is street Give us like you're like Alec Baldwin's wife. Remember her. Did you ever see the blasio? Oh, that's that lady's great dude It was she's from like Connecticut and she's like how do you say orange?

1:50:31Is it orange? I'm from Spain Just made up a whole act like that's crazy Mentally crazy she must be sexually. Yeah, amazing. I bet she's fine To pretend like gal the pretend she's a different name. That's why that lady that that lady's fun 100 % um what was I just asking? Oh the video where the blasio had the performative dancers? Oh, yes listen to this But take it from the beginning so you can hear how fucking stupid this is Look at this they all have masks on outside We need a recovery that brings back the life and the heart and the energy of this city And then everyone gets to be a part of this dance We're gonna really bring back the heart and soul New York City We need our arts and culture back and we need people to see it and feel it to participate in it to know Essence of New York City has not been defeated by the coronavirus peak woke come back strong in 2021 Month after month in 2021 as you see the city come back to life culturally the way culture Is another step towards our recovery for our city.

1:51:37We're mounting with 115 street locations in all five borders And he brings stations over neighborhoods and culture to the heart of our neighbors. I wonder how many of those 115 people 115 neighborhoods shot at those Although when I think of New York City, I do think of people spaszing out in masks like that I do think of them going like this like on drugs asking me for money That's what I think of when I think of New York. This is peak woke. This is absolute peak woke insanity stupid shitty Out of rhythm dancing terrible music while everybody's wearing masks outside and they spent money on this and this was his Way of bringing the city back through culture.

1:52:19It's just so unlikable. It's peak woke This is this I think this moment this video. This is the historians will look back at this like this is like Yeah, this is when they clearly lost their fucking mind the biggest metropolitan city on earth the one right if you can make it there You can make it anywhere that retard is the mayor and this is what he's doing with taxpayer money Wally's got the whole city shut down. Yep any wanted to defund the police They won't believe that people riot smash windows and steal things. We need to bring our culture back. Yeah, you need to believe the judge You're terrible.

1:52:52This job. People are gonna oh you believe that that wasn't real You're gonna look at it right. Yeah, yeah, they're gonna go. Come on. Peak woke insanity if you try to do that at any other time in history Yeah, if that was in 1990 and the mayor of New York had people dancing with masks on in the street everybody like What the fuck is this someone bully them immediately? Yeah, like what is happening? Yeah, I do use your fucking mind But they that was when everybody was so confused and so mentally ill. I think as a society we mentally had a cold We're all over oh No one felt healthy. Yeah, the whole country was mentally ill.

1:53:27Yeah, legitimately. I think that's that's how they pulled it out Oh, yeah, that's peak woke. You know what I'll say each other go. Oh, that was 2020 dude Cuz they'll dismiss it as crazy. They're gone. That was that's different. That's 2020 Oh, he's gonna bring up 2020 again. That was 40 months ago. Right Let it go exactly. Well, where's the apologies? What's the big deal? Where's the hey? We were Uh, hey, you know, maybe we were wrong about that. What are you ever gonna hear that not only did they not admit that they were wrong But now they're the victims. Yeah, you know Everybody else is spreading misinformation and we have to censor online speech because we said how what about you guys?

1:54:07You got us into the Iraq war with this information you cunts I've been wrong all the time and I just go yeah, they're oh, I'm sorry I've been wrong on this fucking podcast right now Like the left will just go no, that's different like I'm like just can you just at least say we're sorry for calling you a Super spreading jerk because you wanted to leave your house to get coffee. Can I get one? Yeah, they were wrong about everything and they Gaslit the whole fuck world and they got away with it and they got away with it And they almost got away with demonizing their political opponent and putting him in jail.

1:54:41They almost got him in jail. Oh my god They came real close. Yeah, that's so scary convicted of 34 felonies for things that aren't even felonies Wait, and also people can't even tell you what those felonies are they just it's more fun It's more to fun to call someone a felon. Yeah, well, that's why you got convicted in the first place Yeah, it's all political. It's like name calling the whole world just lost its mind in four years and four years Everybody just it was like there was so many contributing factors of the hatred of Trump and then there was the coronavirus the chaos and then The racism the sexism the George Floyd thing and then Biden seems to be dead and he's still running the country like what's happening?

1:55:16I know and then you know and then now Finally when Trump won it was like the first time at a long time. I was like Yeah, maybe we're gonna be okay. Well see the stuff that he's saying. I love the calm very optimistic about it Yeah, this is like what most logical sensible people have been saying Well, I'm also like like the the double standard is just really fascinating to me is like like What's the Boso guy from the 49ers? He comes in like while they're interviewing the guys that uh Where the stars of the game he runs up and puts his mag ahead on and then he like leaves and everyone's like Well, he's gonna have to be fine for that like you can't make political statements I'm like I don't know if you remember that BLM that was like on the field Like all their helmets different that that's not that's not a political state political Yeah, it's a cultural statement more than it's a politician.

1:56:05You're supporting There's a big difference between you don't find that political stop don't shoot. It is political man It's not political in a sense where someone's running for office So there's difference between like you're promoting someone running for office while it's on television And they don't want you doing that on television The other thing is like you're taking a cultural stand It's a different thing. It's got political aspects to it. It's political in nature. It's supported primarily by the left Right, okay, but it's not the same as vote for so right, okay, right But if you were if he had a vote for Harris had on about right give a fuck I know yeah, but that is the interesting like I remember seeing that going We're gonna have to find all those other players who wore defund the police on their things and Yeah, you know little different.

1:56:52It's different. It's a social issue But I think the points are same. It's like these guys are you it's also it's like how many of these fucking dudes who do this stuff Just do it because they know they're gonna get social media cred. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's tough to figure out too Yeah, there's a lot of that in the world today like when people know that you can say certain things get it It's hard to know what you really think right I've gotten accused of pandering right there like all these pandering to the right or whatever Yeah, no finesse Mitchell goes you're gonna real politically to me and I was like We're just saying what I think also like I thought he's like too is like when I was in Seattle You know, and I was like making jokes like nobody goes.

1:57:29Why you're really leaning into this left stuff You know like like when comics are going up and talking about all the things they talk about it on goal trying to make that Obama money, huh? Like I like no, they're just saying what they think yeah, nobody ever accused of people of pandering until you do it like on the conservative side Well, then they think you're pandering people do liked when they catch people pandering though If you can catch them, but how do you know well? They like to accuse people pandering if they disagree with what that person says Yeah, bingo and our community like as far as stand -up communeance has been very left leaning always Never once gone all your pandering to fit in here or your pandering to get on the tonight show or your pandering to get on Jimmy Kimmel definitely do though for sure But I never accused him of that because how am I supposed to know if they really feel like that weird right?

1:58:11But then I say something I really don't care if long as it's funny Right if you your pandering, but it's really hilarious But the problem with me but would I really get grossed out by his claptor? Oh, yeah, I'm guilty of it sometimes lately for sure just in certain scenarios. I've done it Where people just the only one say things if people were gonna clap and agree to Like hey, you missed a whole part of this whole formula. We're all participating in here. This is a comedy club We're coming here for fun. 100 % yeah, and I think also too. It's like well, that's why it's hard That's why it's really rough to accuse someone of it.

1:58:45Yeah, because you don't know like what is the difference between pandering and just playing to a crowd? Mm -hmm. Oh Joe you got to read the crowd right well. What's the difference between pandering and reading the crowd? Yeah, I guess reading a crowd is pandering so then I guess yes in a way. I'm a guilty of it, but we all are Yeah, I guess I've never been one for eating a crown You just do your thing. Let's find out I like that. That's why not how much of this stuff works in Madison, Wisconsin. They go did or I was in Milwaukee, Wisconsin somewhere in Wisconsin They people after the show guy, but you don't do that material in LA.

1:59:19I go damn sure. I do yeah Yeah, I do this material in LA for sure Yeah, people have this bizarre idea that you change your act depending upon who's in the crowd right Yeah, you know hard it is come up with all the stuff. Yeah, I feel like fucking six months come up with 20 It's hard of yeah one new jokes needs to be blossomed into a thing and needs to be water But I will say like I'll change you know read a crowd like if it's a corporate event I'm gonna do different material do different words of the same bits and things if I have to like I have to adjust you know Yeah, oh, that's a different gig though, right?

1:59:48Yeah, the corporate gig is just um only like hiking up my skirt Mm -hmm stick my ass up here Dude that's all it is that's the real luxury of being a successful like as successful as you know a lot of you comedians are You don't have to do that and you don't have to do that the corporate gigs I don't have to but I still get offered it And I say yes, and I'm going to stuff Yeah, Ron white did one he goes I did it because they offered me a fuck load of money It was a worse experience. I ever had him I'm a fucking life I'm stressed. Why did you do it? You shouldn't have done you do as fucking terrible.

2:00:21Yeah, it's stressful It also is kind of exciting though. I kind of crave those moments where I'm like nervous again Like that like in February when I came into the mothership for the first time I was like oh this is exciting behind the current I'm a little nervous. Yeah, well nervous to go out there. You're up in the balcony. What I'm going on I'm a little like I like this like the first time I did the tonight show. I had all these like Butterflies like that was like I like I live for those kind of moments so like You know sometimes I'll take a corporate. I'm gonna do it live some personal nervous.

2:00:46I'd love to yeah, that's I'd love to that I did that because it made me nervous. I said no to it at first really yeah, I was like it's dumb I'm one shot. Yeah, but then I thought why are you being a pussy? Then I call my manager back I said don't say no yet. Let me call you tomorrow. I call it love the next day. I'm like all right. We're good. I love it I think that's a future. Well, it's definitely you prepare for it more and you think about it in a different way than a regular show Like I prepared so much more than I ever do normally. We didn't have to sit around approving edits from people at a big corporation with a bunch of laptops who aren't creative who go Yeah, maybe this bit and you go I'm the comedian.

2:01:22Why are you editing that and so like I had life the future I had to do that once with a Comedy Central. I had a Comedy Central deal to do a special and I bailed on it Oh really yeah, just after the phone call. Yeah, yeah, so like you can't say that like why not? Yeah, we're talking about you guys want fun here or not funny. Look at these how they cable they've changed their standards though And then like by 2014 I got away with a lot Hmm, I got away with a lot when I did a Comedy Central special in 2014, but they now I don't even know What they make anymore other than South Park Comedy Central I mean, do they even have South Park anymore?

2:01:59I'm not sure if they're making new episodes But they have that they play a lot of reruns of things and then they also have all those daily shows and all that stuff That's good for them. Okay, daily show course, but like they used to have so many shows I know I just don't think TV can compete with the internet anymore No, and they had an app too. I know Comedy Central had an app for a while I don't know if they still have that rather they still have a Comedy Central app. You only have a good story about I hold it in the paramount That makes sense and that's where the new South Park episodes are right?

2:02:26What's that comedian's name that? Joe list just made a documentary about Gosh, he's a great guy from Boston. He now lives in the Keys of Florida He's a Boston comic kind of a legend Tom Dustin Tom Dustin. Yeah, he there's a great Tom Dustin story in Boston Where the women that ran Comedy Central were like in the crowd and It's like a showcase thing and the owners like just keep it clean This is the other thing and Tom Dustin's already kind of a controversial guy as far as like the booker was like You know you know our reputation here and we're letting you do this because we want to help you but like Playball so Tom Dustin goes out there and he's struggling a bit and then he It just in the middle of said he just decides.

2:03:09I don't want to do this You know like I don't want to jump through these hoops So he goes I heard Comedy Central's here and everyone claps and he goes how many fat Bearded unfunny fuck so you're gonna put on the network this year Everyone's like mortified and then he's like I like he like They're lighting him get off the stage get off the stage and then He he grabs he's I said I'm at it and then he comes back and he goes oh I forgot you're all a bunch of N word cuts Just that to the the audience and the like that like Because he just wanted to stick it to the comedy club and the and the people that yeah, that's a good Tom Dustin Yeah, I love him dude.

2:03:47Yeah Great fucking funny guy Boston missed him He's you know he's grinding he's grinding it out one of those Boston boys and where's he live now now? He lives in that he started a comedy club in Key West. What's it called? I know there is a comedy club in Key West that a lot of people go down to it's supposed to be a fun game Doug does it all just stand up does it I know that's what's in I don't know the swords has done it but I know swather was down there when I was down So he just works his own club. Yeah, just made it own started his own club. It's happy Pretty cool. It's kind of like that Well, you guys did it different ways Joe Joe list.

2:04:25Oh, yeah, there you go. Sam talent cool. I can take a T. West. Hell yeah, it's great. I'd be fun to do a gig down there just for funsies. Yeah, that helped him out a lot too It's a fun area those people are wild people. I mean, that's been a wild place for a long -ass time very Uncartered territory. Yeah, I'm like, you know, no mad Fucking is pretty cool. I like it there. Yeah, and you can't just fly into the keys. I mean if you can I didn't know that you could because I had to drive Dave Williams and drove me for like three hours like we like How long have we been in the keys he's like the gigs up here?

2:04:59Don't you gotta go by cruise ship? That's well Have you done cruises been on cruises? No, no Not me, dude. Not into it. Yeah, no, well, you know, it's funny about the cruise ships while we're talking about like corporate corruption It's international waters so like the casino you kill you well the casino you're like this kind of is This kind of feels unfair and they're like what are you gonna complain to no one there's no pit boss It goes. I don't worry. This is all sanctioned by the get you drunk. It's still your money Oh, and there the games are rigged It's just still you go I would like to talk to the casino commission they go shut up.

2:05:38You're in the middle of the ocean You know and you talk to the guy that works there you like hey, buddy How much you you know make no I make like a dollar a week or what you know like it's a crazy thing You got there they're just allowed to do that they give free food in the bed. Yeah, and the guys more than where I yeah How about those folks that like live on cruise ships? Do those certain folks they gave up their house and they just live on a cruise ship all year round I will say and I promise I'm not trying to be contrarian here because I love Tim Dylan I love like all these guys who will shit on cruise ships and they're right every bit of criticism that my favorite people in my life Criticize about cruise ships the other side of that coin is some people just want to eat shit and look at things They want to be fit there are some people.

2:06:18It's nice for my dad You know like he's he's happy to just go okay. What are they playing a rush hour two? All right like it's okay Yeah, those people are enjoying it sure. It's a vacation Yeah, you wear with a whole bunch of people sunburned y 'all shit around you got water slides and fucking all kinds of shit to do and yeah Yeah, it's fine for them get it. Yeah, it's not my brain right. I don't want to do it I don't think up that nightmare from yeah, but then every three days you get to Waddle your fat ass off the boat and see you know portareko for three hours and then you get back on the book some people That's that's a pretty cool deal some people some people yeah, yeah, I don't want to perform on those things Well, how many times have you done it?

2:07:00Oh, I've only been on a cruise ship like probably three times and I got like some special deal Where are you doing stand -up or you I got to do stand -up. Yeah Joe what a thing One of the other comics Tom Cotta goes you don't be here. I know Tom. Yeah, Tom's awesome He was the other comic on the boat. He saw that I was doing it. He got you know, I want to be on here. He's a good go You got the rest of your life to be on a cruise ship like if this is where you want to end up and and he was speaking to the comedy aspect of it Like it was just pretty that's a dark state depressing. Yeah, cuz Tom's my age Tom's awesome I've known Tom since we were open -mikers really yeah, the first time I ever went to an open -mike night I saw Tom on stage really I just found it that Greg Fitzsimmons was a Boston guy he started a week after me really.

2:07:46Yeah, we both started together Do you consider yourself a Boston guy? Yeah, that's where I started nice. Yeah, I think you develop a kind of sense of comedy and of urgency and like the audience is attention span and like the comics from Boston have you know at least back in that day They had a sharp material there. Oh, yeah, you there were too many good comics. Yeah, it was also like a real It was a real pressure cooker because you had these guys. There were these national level comics They could have been some of the best comics in the country, but they never left Boston right and so you're always working with these guys These Steve Sweeney, Don Gavin, Kevin Knox, Lenny Clark.

2:08:24They were monsters. Yeah, Lenny would have been pissed if he didn't say him right there Oh, he was a monster. He was the first guy with the second guy actually I ever get paid to open for Really yeah, those guys are rock stars and then they stayed put and so you guys have to compete with the rock stars exactly So Lenny got out and he did a lot of TV shows and much stuff But a lot of those guys they stayed put and they they were still fuck like Steve Sweeney He's on to this day one of the the greatest killers on stage I've ever seen in my life They got destroyed by the day. I mean destroyed and Boston did a dirty thing They did a dirty thing the dirty thing was like say if you're a famous comedian and you're coming to play next comedy stop for the weekend Like Billy Crystal.

2:09:03Yeah, they would put on Don Gavin. Oh, just bury Evan Steve Sweeney, oh It was hell Mike Donovan. I like that and they would just eat shit Gunn and they would love that these guys would eat shit. I like they bring in a headly pay him all this money to go perform with this club This is a club by the way that would pay you in Coke or cash. Oh, yeah, that's old days Yeah, right there. I've only read about that which makes me so happy like you want Coke money or just Coke or just money back in the day There was a club that used to do that. I like that and I think probably more than one. Oh for sure I mean these were party and people I would hear about that all the time.

2:09:39You know how they all got hit up though What it makes oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get paid cash well They all didn't pay their head. I remember opening for Greg Deraldo as like the club that I started at like we were He just used to the open micers as free openers and like I also like pick up the comedian at the airport And we wanted to pick up Greg Deraldo and Chris Porter all these had we were excited to pick up the comics from the airport But that was his way of not having to pay a car service to pick up the comics from the airport The club owner did that club owner joy and then put the need to also be like you guys are all gonna do short sets in front of the headliner Which works out to do but that also means he doesn't have to pay us to open so he doesn't have to pay for a minute So as a trick, but we were happy to be part of the trick because we we just wanted stage time sure you get to hang out with Greg Deraldo How cool is that?

2:10:22You're being an intern. Yeah, it felt like that. Yeah, I was happy with the trick You know that stage times valuable But in it got to meet all like the my heroes, you know that came through and I remember Greg Deraldo You know his tour he's he's clean now. He's trying to be an honorable Husband and he's you know, he's got the thing and he would just be like, you know Jeff if this was back in the day we would be Need deep and coke and I'm like let's do that now Why do I miss it? You know like I'm reading about all these tales. It's unsustainable Yeah, the only guy's been able to sustain partying for an entire career stand -up Yeah, well, or they die.

2:10:58Roger field was doing until the end. He did to the yeah, he was smoking pot doing lines to the very Yeah, he was committed. Oh, come on. Yeah Well, this is the notes love you saw me browsing those last night. I was pretty into that. Yeah How'd you get him his wife his wife gave him to us really? Yeah Whitney knows his wife and when she found out we were opening up the club. I Love that I love stuff like that. I want to do something like what he did We're here Rodney Dangerfield and friends where he did those HBO shows. Oh, yeah, we just introduce the world to like some of the best comics I want to do something like that you'd help a lot of guys.

2:11:33Let me tell you because doing that like from the mothership Would be fucking amazing that would tell a lot of guys. I think there's guys out there that could use it to There's guys out there that have like 10 minutes of murder And just put those 10 minutes of murder together and you know have four or five guys on a show If you have some fun would you be able to commit to picking the guys you like as opposed to the guys that Netflix wants you to plug No, if I was gonna do Joe Rogan and friends who would have to be people that I really think I love that That's know them or not. I love that I really admire and that's what But he did what Rodney did was different than anybody else other than Carson who wasn't really a comedian right so Johnny Carson Was the way that everybody got famous you got on the tonight show the new Carson you get to sit I don't think you I believe you to sit next to Carson like holy shit I'm sitting next to Carson and like he likes you so much you made it you were headlining comedy clubs after that and Traveling around the country and you know this guy's like rich Jenny did like dozens of yeah rich Jenna was great Amazing a very unhappy man, but like a talented man super depressed Yeah, but then you had Rodney and what Rodney did is he introduced people to the HBO special comedians So these weren't comedians like tonight show clean comedians these were guys like Robert Shimmel dice clay Bill Hicks Sam Canis and Dom Iraira killers Lenny Clark killers killers.

2:12:54Yeah, and like headliners already like and then they all got HBO Special so they they all became like national talent and like people that would see them everywhere But it all came out of Rodney because Rodney had this desire to introduce these comics to the rest of the world Nobody else was doing that and I love that. That's like that's how you help people is by gone Hey, I know this guy isn't famous. He doesn't have a sitcom. Yeah, but I right. I'm funny Here's the guy that I think is funny. I think I think our Rodney danger field is David tell Joke joke joke just crushing killer. I think our Larry the cable guys Theo Vaughn like you know like it's got the voice in the things And then you don't know what is a story and what is a joke, but you know our Eddie Murphy's Kevin Hart you can cut you know our Normie is our Norma Donald is kind of a Mark Normand like with it.

2:13:44We have these kind of next guys sort of I think they're all their own thing They are their own thing. Yeah, I mean, I don't really think it's our this or I don't think about it that way Well, you don't think styles influence people. Yeah, they definitely do for sure I think you know like if you listen to Stephen Wright and you list a Mitch headberg. Yeah, that and that's great Yeah, that's that's that beautiful absurdist non -secretors. Yeah, I'm variance Inspired by Norman Patrice and Simpson's like if you watch my act you can go I can I know all the things this guy Watched for I think it tells his own thing like it tells I think he's one of the greatest of all time I really do I think so too.

2:14:19I saw him at the mother ship one night. I came in just to watch a set it was Amazing machine gun Joe and he's so In the groove is this Zen master on stage every Every beat is perfect. He's a master. I love him. He's so good He's so good at just talking shit too when he has everybody come on stage with him He gives everybody a microphone that just starts shit. Yeah, he's the best You know, he also like has still like He's still maintained people like when you don't change, you know like if you're a fast celebrity You better stay fat. We don't want to see a skinny, you know And if you're a skinny person you get fat.

2:14:57They go what happened? You know like we don't like in he's that's my kid Child stars are doomed because they're gonna have to change and you're gonna I liked him when he was a cute kid, you know what's good? But I think the same thing is true with like a tell He still looks like he's broke. Yeah, you look at a tell you like that guys I say it dresses the same like every time you see him even though it's specials We're gonna it could be 80 degrees outside. He's got a jack and I like a do rag and a hat like Love that and I love that like you're like is he okay? Like that's one of the best comedians in the world.

2:15:29He's crossing it. Yeah, buddy's really in his own little world Like he really does still read newspapers and he writes jokes in a coffee shop and his flip phone Yeah, he texted you no from a flip phone. I didn't know that Every time I get a text from him I appreciate it because I know how long it took to make He's fucking things take forever and he was in here in the studio He was sitting there. He had text on me is going Oh Yeah, you're like my dad that's wild, but he's right right if you don't want to be connected to that world You don't be influencing just stay in the zone and who's better at staying in the zone than him nobody Yeah, who's better at coming up a new material nobody.

2:16:06Yeah, he's awesome. He so he's just like found this area to exist in Yeah, the bad good. Yeah, I'm good. I love it. I think he's one of the greats So I or we agree that he's one of the greats I had a couple of friends this is a long time we like we just went to a theater show We saw this comic. He wasn't very funny. They love to do that. Oh, it's how the special it sucked You know like they love to shit on it better than just going enjoyed it And so I go who'd you see and they go I can't remember his name, but well We'll text you if we can remember or whatever and I'll say okay. These are good friends of mine And so then like later on there like oh it was David tell and I go oh you're wrong You are just wrong and they're like no, it was really bad.

2:16:44I go wrong. You're wrong There's just no way that that is and I think that that's like the disconnect of like maybe a theater show But also like a Netflix special, you know talking to your friends. We're looking at your phone They wanted some crowd work or something. I don't know what they expected but I was like you're wrong Like that's one of the greatest. Yeah, I think sometimes if a venue's too big, you know in the person's Oh, like maybe that's that there's a disconnect there maybe but I don't know but it's usually screens Yeah, it's people have shitty tastes. Yeah, I couldn't believe it.

2:17:14Yeah, I've heard Things like that before about other comedians. I think are awesome. Like shut up when also the stadiums laughing and going This guy's the best and the mic I thought they're all cheap jokes right me in my favorite kind I like it Exactly a cheap joke that makes me laugh. It's work. Yeah, I'm not yeah, not necessarily connoisseur I'm sure to have a good time. Well, that's I do think that's a good thing to about taste like I think it was in Dave Girls book what he was like I'll eat like I'll drink shitty coffee from like a gas station But also appreciate like a nice espresso. I think that's a good way to like think about even like jokes Yeah, I'll take a one -liner a cheap joke.

2:17:55I'll take a story a misdirection. I'll take anything Let me make me laugh. Yeah, I like the good stuff and the bad stuff Yeah, but the thing this hard for comics is to maintain an audience enthusiasm Right like to watch comedy like and appreciate it like you used to before you were a comic Because you just you know the tricks and this it's one way to like when you see someone's doing hacky stuff Like yeah, but just fun just have a good time. Yeah, don't start breaking down someone's bids or quick Like to see comics they can't laugh and watching things and everything is like Hmm. I don't know. Yeah, it's a little extra time to get to this joke.

2:18:31I edited that out a little bit. You start like You know too much right? You know, I did that early. I'd police guys right? Like when I was like a passionate obsessed with comedy open -micro I would be like you know So and so has a bit about that subject and I was like yeah Like we're all talking about the same subjects, you know But I would be the guy that would be like well you shouldn't do that cuz Daniel Tosh has a thing, you know like But it was all bullshit. It was just me being so passionate about it that I was over Do you probably applying those standards to yourself too? Yeah, well for sure.

2:19:03Yeah, so that's part of it You see for someone who's like come on man, you know that fucking Gilbert god freed out a bit about that Yeah, but like also just you don't want to overthink it I think you're 100 % right like have fun with the crab be out there Yeah, and just be able to enjoy different kinds of comedy too And just some people just can't and there's so many people particularly like left -wing comics like Comedy has to align up with their ideology or they just won't they won't get into it I can't I hate it. I used to see that with dice clay That was the big one and we were talking about this last night because like I came in as like a dice clay fan when I was a kid And by the time dice had gotten kicked off of MTV and it was like in fashion for comedians to call Masexist and a pig and like this guy is it's a character.

2:19:49Yeah, what do you talk about you? Also, it's like shut the fuck up right and then They were there was like so much jealousy There's a little jealousy about him too because he was the first comic that ever sold out arenas So he was selling out a rena as when everybody else was like struggling like fill a weekend at a little comedy club like what? Yeah, and these guys all started with him and he was one of those guys that got on running danger field special and just took off Interesting they did his own special. I think it was just I think it was called dice rules and that special took off and then Dude, he was everywhere and it wasn't it was different than any other kind of comedy because everybody knew the nursery rhymes And they wanted to say it with him.

2:20:27So it was like going to a concert. Yeah, you know what's in the bow bitch Oh And everybody go yeah Yeah, wait different if anyone was to criticize you know like I know a lot of the old dogs in Boston won't be like these guys aren't doing anything different But right that's different yeah, so you get something that's different that's working and then people will kind of get mad They like you claimed you wanted something different and it's working. It's working and it's different Just because you do a different thing like if you're an observational comic Yeah, cuz you do a different thing doesn't mean that that thing that all these 10s of thousands of people are screaming and cheering for is wrong right 100 % that's a crazy way of looking at you I'll give you a great example I was at skankfest right this year in Vegas which water tree and so grateful to them for having me So I don't ever want to make it sound like I'm not grateful But I went and watched um Caratop Scott Thompson right I went over to I went over to the Luxor I watched the show and then I come back to skankfest and I was like oh we were at caretops You know and people like Caratop was like he's better than all of us just so you know He's funny.

2:21:32It's great Joe 90 minutes of not missing It was a relevant as far as like it was doing topical things He's he had a p -ditty joke that happened like the night before I saw him like he had all the you know It wasn't all props. There was a lot of topicals of tons of trump stuff political stuff There was like three like out maybe a one -minute segment where I was like You know because I was going in with an open mind like if it's gonna be shit I'll say it's shit and if it was great. I'll say it's great, you know And there was like there was like a like a one -to -lunch that I was like that's a little hacky and it's like you know a Vegas Luxor joke about like oh they made it a Pyramid because if you try to jump out the window you'll just end back up at the casino I say that's kind of I've heard that kind of thing But then I started thinking about it.

2:22:16I was like no he probably wrote that he's been doing this for 29 Sometimes you'll watch prior and be like black one. We're like this white and you go that's hacky No, he did it first right and so in my mind I was like 90 minutes of not missing and he's the nicest guy in the world Yeah, and he's crushing it. It's a great great great show Well, he was a guy that in the early days when he was taking off every Jelly shit on yeah everyone shit on including Hicks Hicks had a whole bit about carotop which sucks because he's so good It was just a jealousy thing It was just a shitting on the guy who was doing this thing that you think is somehow another coloring outside the Lines which is crazy to make any sense and then he also kind of was alienated from everybody because he then he did a residency in Vegas He was like one of the first big guys to just do it.

2:23:03He's been in Vegas forever 29 years. That's so crazy Yeah, it's a long time and that means it must be pretty good like it was it does well. Oh man I want you to see it. I mean some really nice guy. I want you to oh You saw so good. It's so good and I couldn't he was couldn't have been more humble and like it was just like such a nice guy And I said this to him. I wanted him to hear it that like you know all the hate that my like comedy friends do is just because it's become a thing Yeah, it's not because it's real So like I think this happens in life like people go Henry Winkler Jeff you worked with Henry Winkler Is any of the nicest guy in the world?

2:23:36Yes, Henry Winkler is the nicest guy in the world But so are a lot of people right but we've learned Henry Winkler is the nice hands. We just repeat it You know, oh Taylor Swift only sings about our ex -boyfriends every musician sings about their exes Why is that Taylor Swift's thing? It's just got a lot of it. But it's just something we've heard and we repeat as like a hacky thing And I think that's the same the character it became Hack it became like a trend to make fun of him, but yeah, he didn't deserve it that act is killer Yeah, there's a lot of that that's Trump as a Nazi right. Yeah, it's not fair.

2:24:08Yeah. There's a lot of that There's narratives. There's headlines clickbait narratives. They just get spread. I don't know I hate it easy to define people in a certain way. They'll say oh I think I see it in like small thing Oh, you know you swallow or ten spiders spiders a year. I don't they don't What are you sleeping outside with your mouth open? What are you talking about? Why are people repeating these things that aren't oh, you know, you lose a million hairs a month? You like no, you don't like where are these things being repeated or perpetuated? The internet just like we were talking about how much Lizzo made Yeah, exactly.

2:24:40Yeah, which I'm probably gonna wear that a little bit But I think we got to the bottom of it. Well, we probably are at least semi -accurate I just wonder who came up with that list in the first place Well, but that's the difference between me saying something wrong on your podcast and millions of people Repeating a thing that they heard about Carrot top. You know, I'm saying like I just I don't understand how that becomes a Reputation and now this guy lives in some world where he goes everyone hates me and even family guys shitting on me I don't deserve this Well, one of the things he said that after he came on my show he started getting a lot of love Oh good it was way different a lot of people that's great shows that had like Fans of my show and then wanted to come see him and yeah, it's like he turned a corner and he should have never had to do that I never met the guy right I didn't meet him until I did a podcast one.

2:25:27Yeah, so for me it was like it was cool to just like just yeah Just chill have fun with it. Yeah, let him get out of that right, you know when all these a comedian Yeah, he's a nice guy. Yeah, he's not hurting anybody Do you think sweet heart of a guy? I feel like what happened to more prop comics They all went away because he's so successful he defined prop comedy. He's like weird out. Yeah You don't see parody music anymore weird. Owls goes. I got 50 albums. Who's next? You don't see anybody smashing watermelons Gallop did it is the only one. Yeah, well, I guess both Burnham does musical parody, but it's not the same sure He does it, but he's not the same on YouTube, right?

2:26:05Yeah, that was like, but it isn't like he doesn't take a song You know how like weird out would take Michael Jackson's song, so you knew the song and then you repeat Yeah, it was great. Yeah, I loved weird out. I thought I'd have a long time But like you but prop comics it's it like puppet comics they they went away. You have Jeff Dunham and that's it What was the guy? I know you'll know this auto and George. I don't know. He was the best so funny Oh my god. I used to work with I don't want to do these prom shows a danger fields So when I first moved to New York City danger fields was one of the clubs that I worked out the most because it was like First of all I couldn't believe it was Rodney Dangerfield's club and they actually filmed one of danger field specials there and she was like a fan of danger field.

2:26:51Oh huge fan and We do these prom shows the prom shows was start like 7 p .m. Or whatever it was and they would go on Into a four o 'clock in the fucking morning and it was kids like from the Bronx in Staten Island They'd come in on buses and limos and they'd all be drunk and they would fill up these fucking little clubs with these kids and then just Want you to do the same material the next show so the kids leave so they never have the kids leave So they would tell you hey you got to stop doing new material do the same material every time I'm like I'm not doing the same material All right, you're not gonna bomb.

2:27:26Yeah, I'm gonna hear to do my say you can't tell me what to do You've got me here for five sets if you go five if I look in that same drunk kid is in the front row Yeah, I'm gonna do a new set. Yeah, that's great. You know, I have another 10 minutes. Yeah, yeah I mean it was the fucking ridiculous, but the shows would go on forever and ever and I did a bunch of them with auto Oh wow, I'm so jealous to hear that cuz I do you think that the internet has a lot of auto and George There's a like you could find stuff cuz you had a CM live because you couldn't believe what the fuck He was so wild. Yeah, he would say the fucking crazy as shit And then he would say to the the puppet I George what the fucking saying can't talk like that.

2:28:04Yeah, which is great You got it out, but it's your hand that's the right. Oh, here we go. Yeah, it's so funny Dirtiest dozen 1988. I love it. I love it. This is on the internet. I'm fucking uncomfortable here I'm gonna take a shit and everything. Sorry. I had a ride here in a trumpet of cars I turtle wax my dick. I was so fucking bored in there Johnson's turtle wax three coats. I want to see the water jump and off of it That's right. I got a wooden cock. I was circumcised with a pencil sharpener At least I stay hot when I'm drunk George, please watch if there are ladies here. There's ladies here.

2:28:50Blowjob He's a good star to me I just love the idea that like the premise is preposterous, but you had to see him live if you saw him live And you were in the room with it. It was so fun on that and that's me like I know everyone talks about below jobs now But like back at the time that's pretty it like it's very good. This 88 right now So he was a kind of a wild dude and you know, unfortunately that kind of cost him a lot of substances Oh, I see wild that will yeah, well off the rails little crazy We had a couple of guys who these can knuckleheads who lived in Seattle But we looked up to him because anyone that was you know any low ones like an older brother or somebody in comedy Was a big deal to us and they did a thing called a robo and he had his own my space page and everything It was just this terrible robot.

2:29:53It was a trash can that they just put a box head on and that had like two button like that It was on a race car kind of thing So it could only spin and the eyes would light up and then when you hit like a thing it would make his mouth make a little Line of lights and that guy would just be in the back a comedian would be in the back reading his jokes off the no pad Well, oh here it is robo and the jokes were just so Funny his head would fall off sometimes, but it'd be like why do women wear makeup and perfume Cuz they're ugly and they stink and then you would like spin around I can't understand But like yeah, you would just be like why do women get their periods?

2:30:51Cuz they deserve it and then all you like spin around and people would leave I mean it's an open mic It was not like at least autumn George had like a sold out This would be two guys just drunkenly having a good time with terrible jokes and putting it on the robot Which is a really good idea so funny What's cool because you can get that row out to say things just like you can get South Park to say things Yeah, it's not real people. Oh, it's not me in the back with a microphone. It's right the robot. Yeah, it's Cartman Right, it's so fun. It's not even human. There's a big round thing He said one time they got booked too like are actually like the first time someone tried to book them like hey Rob oh, we would love to have you at our venue.

2:31:25It's like no, it's robo like it's not like that It might have been an automated thing or something, but they thought it was so funny that someone tried to book them off of a video like that That's hilarious. I love that kind of stuff though. Well somebody probably thought that was a real act Yeah, you could take it somewhere. I love it. You probably could have I mean someone could easily do that Yeah, I mean how hard is it to do it's so funny? Have you seen that comedian on kill Tony? What is his gentleman's name that has He has some sort of a neurological condition where he can't talk so he has a Bluetooth speaker.

2:31:53Oh, yeah, it does is jokes I thought I haven't seen him on kill Tony but the US comedy club in like two weeks. Oh, that's another calendar There's air in the aisles air in the aisle. Yeah, very nice guy funny, too Yeah, I know I've seen this guy on agt or something right that's what it was was on America's got talent. Yeah, I've seen him I I almost did a thing after I had to follow him somewhere. I can't remember it was and oh, but it was for like Lewis J I was one of these shows where being mean is like okay Yeah, I encourage it was like Lewis J's like you got to tell your most fucked up joke first And then try to get out of the hole and in my mind I'm like this sounds like a nightmare yet, but I was to do that Yeah, and every comic made the same mistake where we where we came out and went we tried to get it You know, we you know comics we try to play we try to get around the rules a little bit I was going he told us we had to say the most fucked up joke first So we all did that kind of buffer so it just didn't work for any of us, but that guy was performing and so I thought about just Recording into my phone like a thing and acting like I'm him as like my first thing and I was like this isn't gonna go over Well, I'm just gonna yeah That's no one's gonna be on your side right so but I was like I You get a more braise that guy's incredible balls Yeah, but you barely walk, you know can't move his arms well Playing your hand.

2:33:12Yeah, he's playing his hand and he's been dealt that yeah, and he's making the fucking best of his headline Nikki was 100 % yeah, I love it. That's a great example. Yeah, yeah He didn't go all this is bullshit send me money. You have to piss about what's up? I have to piss over Alright, so we wrap this up. Yeah, let's do it. Yeah Last cowboy. Yes, last cowboy LA comes out today. All right, it's out today, right? This comes out tomorrow Working people see it. Yeah, yeah, so it comes out today when you if you're hearing this It's on 800 pound gorilla is the name of the production company So like just go to YouTube site search Jeff die last cowboy LA you can find it.

2:33:47Hopefully you can search it Yeah, hopefully you do fuck your Some of this I drop interview. Oh, yeah, let's say can we watch this is that be all right? I mean technically hasn't premiered yet. I know, but this is a little try this little trailer. Can we watch the trailers? I don't know. Yeah, let's watch the trail and we'll wrap this up everybody go see it rock bottom in Hollywood, California That is a bad place for rock bottom because everyone is mean to you there in Hollywood everyone my entire career Everybody in Hollywood's been like you're not even famous. I've never heard of you. You're not famous.

2:34:16You're not even famous You're not famous. I have never heard of you. You're not famous. You're not even famous And then I have one bad day and it's like famous comedian crashers car fights cop. Oh my god, David Which film this Nashville Yes, yes Also, I if I'm honest, I actually like trans women better than I like regular women I do if you ever talk to a trans woman they're great. They're like dudes Just for raw dog and rice You know Was this at Zane's no music venue Last cowboy last cowboy You

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Jeff Dye is a stand-up comic, actor, and broadcast personality. His YouTube special "The Last Cowboy in LA" premieres on November 14.

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