#2233 - Scott Storch

36:03Yeah, it's all bullshit. Yeah, it's nice to dress up sometimes. Sometimes it's a pain. Yeah, it's a pain The ass lately. I've just been changing my whole fashion ways like friend of mine said something He's like Even though I have nice things like he's like you don't need a Ferrari Be the Ferrari when you walk in a room. He's a fucking your unsouth beach and all these fucking guys at barely have a pot to piss in I'm getting out of a Lambo and the fucking Valley and the ice scout and shit like I don't like king of that shit. I was filthy rich and did all that shit And I might as well just landed a fucking spaceship on top of the club like I was doing everything But lately I just it turns me off.

36:45I look at myself. I look like I feel like a poser Like I feel like the richest guy in the room is wearing a fucking a fucking A bare bones no diamonds type shit like well look at Elon Musk. Yeah, dude. Where's occupied Mars t -shirts? Doesn't even know watch yep, you know, so that's that's just hanging That's where I'm at you don't I think what happens is in the beginning you want everybody to know you're doing well So you have all your stuff on you dress real nice, you know like wow scots looks good. He looks sharp But then when you're undeniable you reach a point in your life where you just like what am I who am I doing this for?

37:20Yeah, well if you're like me and you have a point in your life where you had a hundred million dollars And you were trying to impress everybody and you fucking didn't have any respect for buddy Like my financial manager walked away from me back. They said you're unmanageable. Why you don't crazy going out spending so much money But look you're still here. Yeah, fun. I had a good time. But you had a good time But when you lose everything yeah, you want to like fake it and be like oh No, I still got it like I'm the guy with the most obnoxious set of diamonds They don't broke his shit because I just wanted to look the part my ego wouldn't let me like oh that shit That's a negative feedback loop Because that doesn't feed into art either That's the opposite doesn't I had to give it all of that Yeah, I had to like really take it back to nothing like I don't care about labels and shit.

38:06I like nice things look Not I don't like have to do the pull -up on the club But look there's nothing wrong with a fucking 9 -11 like it's just a great car like yeah, there's amazing engineering Yeah, like I do it for me now like whatever I do and I'm just like I'm really getting into my music. I'm getting into a lot of things. I appreciate both things I appreciate people who dress real nice and I appreciate people who don't give a fuck I think there's a place for every medium. Yeah, and then the stuff stuff is not life Life is not your stuff. No, but some stuff is fucking cool. Hell yeah like cat.

38:44Well, he was when he was here He wasn't even living here or staying here and somehow another he got an electric Rolls Royce So he's here that he's here for a day to do a show and wasn't he doing a show somewhere else or something like an arena somewhere It did but one of the things he said he said when you're sitting in this car you know where you spent your money Because it's like it's you we go oh I know why this is $600 ,000 look how fucking amazing this thing No, I was the ceiling nice things. I just like them for a different reason right you don't write them for showing off You like them because you like them because they're awesome.

39:19Yeah, there's nothing wrong with luxury Yes There's nothing wrong with luxury the car But the problem is you trying to show everybody your luxury instead of just enjoying it like look in my or or prioritizing it before your children or before Before anything before anything before anything before food. Yeah, it shouldn't come before anything It should be just a fun thing and when you get to a level success that you're at if you don't figure that out That's when it's the saddest when someone makes a ton of money and doesn't go oh, it's not about the things It's about the relationships that I have it's about my friends.

39:54It's about my loved ones my family It's about the people that I work with it's about everybody having a good time It's about let's all get together and break bread and eat and and hug each other and tell each other We love each other and do great work and have a good time and just enjoy this life experience That's the thing that's the thing the car is just like look that's cool I see yeah, you pull up in a cool car like checking out Some people have to offer in their like life and like they think that that is great Well, you know that the problem is that's seemingly the most unattainable thing when you're broke And you see some guy who pulls up in a brand new 9 -11 you like what the fuck?

40:31This is yours. It's mind -blowing. I had Bugatti's and all kinds of shit I had everything I won for the best car collection on fucking MTV cribs I had like 26 cars bro if you name I had like 10 million dollar cars Wow crazy shit like I'm an idiot but at any rate Yeah, but those are fun too. Yeah, no, yeah, but I lived a billionaire's life as a millionaire I know a hundred million. I thought I said a hundred billion in my account. I thought there was an X to zero but recently I met a guy You just met Kevin Kevin is a fucking like Just a great person. I had met him years and years ago He was the head of security for 50 cent And when he he brought 50 to my house to do the candy shop Okay, and that's when I met him, but I lost touch with him For so many years and just you know not so long ago just remade him At this studio a sky bb at circle house said yo, I got you got this guy wants to you met him before but he wants to meet you He's now the owner of The platinum security group which is like One of the largest corporate security companies in the nation like as guy owned so much real estate.

41:51He owns half a poker reton He's like a major freaking guy and he like We started he wanted to you know initially hire me to do some music for some artists that he had a record label and we ended up Partnering on that record label and partnering on these different type things that were you know different projects and shit that we're doing and He is like yo First of all you need to get the fuck out of Miami I want you to move an hour north to bokeh so you can focus and really make the music It's not worrying about because Miami like Start slipping into my old ways and girls or everyday. It's show up and it's a cesspool bro And it's so much fun and it's so fucked up and there's so much as there's so much drugs and there's so much everything And it's like fuck that you should have to have a passport to go to Miami Right that is not America that's some new thing that's some new thing Miami's wild.

42:46It's good to go there Need to fucking be there, but like energy in that but our own down the road is beautiful waterfront living right Normandy and just far enough to wear the you get there garbage is not gonna like right hit you every day You can get there if you want yeah, but yeah, you're outside of that's what he's like from the outside move up here Since I did that that's why it is lead so many great things are happening Yeah, even just like unlocking but you know you block your blessings Like I was blocking my blessings and now they're starting to come I'm here with you talking and telling my story and like like things like that are happening great things I have um artists that You know i'm working on and I have my album.

43:30I decided like you know how calid makes out means got all these different people and Like I'm like you know, I'm gonna like I've made my whole life of this Making hip records for labels and for their artists Why not develop artists and do my own album and use some of those artists for my projects and um Yeah, I'm putting out a slew of singles um This girl Abby stair That Kevin introduced me to is like so amazing. I think there might be a picture somewhere of that uh, I was told like Because I'm using her For my single for my first single like even though you know, we're gonna be developing her album and um But I'm doing my single featuring her and then a whole bunch of other ones that I'm gonna be putting out I have only young blue and um tons I have tons of singles um But we have this song and um yeah, I'm excited man like I'm doing the things I always wanted to do I'm I'm taking like full -on Initiative now and you think move it an hour outside my I mean it was a big part of that I think yeah in order to like just balance.

44:40Yeah balance my song. You need balance man You need to be able to go hard But you need to be able to recover relax and focus you need privacy you need Solitude so you could think everybody needs that you need balance in your life if you don't you just go you lean In one direction you want it's like it's like your body. You know you work out your biceps your fucking your hips are gonna go Something's gonna go wrong. You're gonna fuck your body up with imbalance. You're gonna Fuck your life up with imbalance. Everything needs some sort of a balance and everybody's balance is different Now for a guy like you who goes hard You probably should get the fuck out of Miami He's probably should be living in bokeh right with all the quiet people.

45:18Yep, and I'm loving it If I need to go to Miami, I'm one hour. One hour. Fuck it. How hard is that? I love Florida. This is a fucking crazy -ass place It is crazy -ass place filled with reptiles Yeah They were walking around on your dock and I think the guana's like giant iguana's falling out of trees when he gets cold out That's what he should It's just such a fucked up place, but it's so fun It is so many good things and during the pandemic I think people started to really appreciate Florida like so many people moved down there and they're like, yeah You can just just live here. You don't have to just be under the tyrannical control of the government Look the northeast Was a great place to as a as a young guy To build strength and the changing of the season Great and the ice off your fucking windshield I was learning about being a man wearing timberland boots because you're fucking freezing cold, right?

46:12And I think I think every young person should have to like experience that 100 % not just like sunshine Bro, I grew up in Boston. Yeah, and You know, it's cold as fucking the winter when when I was a kid we made money by shoveling snow and that You know that's back break and fucking work shoveling long steep driveways and shit for a hundred bucks Yeah, you know, but if you if you could do that and do that all the time like you build resolve You're out there freezing your hands are numb, you know, we play outside in the snow your fucking hands would go now You come in you can't fill your feet Makes you stronger it makes you stronger you scraping the ice off your windshield before you go to work Yeah, soul thinking this fucking The walk I feel bad for people that don't grow up in those environments because I really think it gives you a little extra edge At those changing of seasons yeah, different feelings different moods or all my favorite comedians for the most well That's not true.

47:09I was gonna say that but then kinesan He was from Texas Sam yeah, but that was different that dude was that's a different. I always think about back to school That's why my mind is goes right there was he right I was there That is awesome. Yeah, he was awesome. I have an appreciation for film. I have appreciation for comedians like I like I really like I grew up like to I was buying like Richard prior albums as a kid and Eddie Murphy albums and You know, I spent a lot of times. I became good friends with Mike Eps. I came a lot of comedians comedians are tortured souls you guys like I think a lot of like that whole comedy tragedy thing is like very serious There's something to that many yeah, there's something to that but it's You just got to figure out how to balance it like that we were talking about before for me I balance it out with exercise exercise and Saunas and cold plunges and yoga and shit like that.

48:08That's how I balance it out. That's how I keep my mind straight Yeah, but if I didn't I would be spiraling just like all them I think you you Need something in your life that's more difficult than your life Something that you do that you choose to do. It's more difficult in regular life because then it makes regular life way more manageable well It's kind of cool I'm 50 and I'm like Inspired like what I was in my early 20s and just like doing the music and it's like Sometimes I get reminded of like in fact, you know like when you try to like keep up like there's a session Like and you're gonna have to go meet little baby at three in the morning Okay, I just do it.

48:53I just have to compensate for it. I could have just went for days back in the day Right without drugs And like now it's like all right. I'm gonna sleep real late because I'm gonna have to go at three o 'clock in the morning So is that like a standard thing like what like when rappers come in and want to work with you Do they generally want to work late at night? Rappers? Yeah, yes. They all want to work late night and my biggest problem is I know I can't always tell them that like sometimes you should just send them CDs of shit, but I know when you get in the room And you make some shit right there on the spot for somebody and you feeling their energy That's when the best records happen.

49:32Yes. These dudes like a lot of dudes are not like With it, but there's some are that's the extra magic, right? Yeah, I think the best artists want that The ones that aren't really artists. They just want some bullshit to rap on some more bullshit But it's there's something you're exchanging something as human beings Right you're you're with with that person you're experiencing them. They're experiencing you the music the song everything together the lyrics There's that's a human experience That's why like I refuse to do zoom podcasts Like some people in other countries they wanted to be on a screen and just sit in the living room You gotta fly here, bro.

50:10You gotta you gotta be in the room. I'll give you a perfect example I gotta call a week ago a facetime um And it was j -co was seen on my phone and like I was chilling like I was like oh shit j -co And um my neighbor think I'm saying no he says he says he says yo stork I figured out a way and I can harness that storks thing You're in Florida. I'm flying there. So I'm gonna I'm going home from this tomorrow He's gonna be there the next day. We're gonna be working and and a hit factory He gets it like we were just listening to neighbors in the green room last night We're all going mother fuck I am So I'm excited.

50:55I'm excited when somebody wants to get in the room and they have yeah idea of like what they feel like out of the scott stores bag of tricks Like they want to like harness or encompass and like well You're also a guy that like you find out your work and when scott stores that day everybody gets fired up To this like a feet because you've had so much success that this is like excitement about you And you're in the room and that creates like additional Like inspiration. Yeah, I know my all all clients because If somebody's gonna be in a room when I'm not there and they're like this is the one scott stores did That shit had better if I like the artist right though like whatever the hell it is They have to be like yo that beat is fucking flames like so I give my all to shit and Some reason man like I said like I just this is one of the few things I can just do over and over again I do it good like give results nothing always sounds the same If somehow I managed to pull it off and it's like I just remember dr.

51:54Dre telling me yo Because his work ethic is crazy. He says You don't have to be on every day Just most days Stuck with me and I was like yeah, man like you know you got to be just being the guy to hit home runs almost Every time not every time but almost every time But when you deal with something that involves creativity you can't be every day. It's not possible You're asking too much of the muse But that's also the problem with like being a work of heart you're going hard all the time You're constantly working and you're gonna have your hits is and you're gonna have your misses and that's just a part of the process I go hard with everything that I do whether it be a bad thing or a good thing Yeah, like most people do I got like you know The same energy I give to that To the music and shit.

52:44I was given to like the wrong things for a while a good friend of mine We were talking about a buddy of ours that died it died from pills and he was super clean He was a professional pool player like a really like world -class pool player super clean never did anything never drank never smoked Got a car accident fucked his backup started getting on pills and pain pills to him He chased the pain pills the way he chased being the best in the world at pool The same thing that got him to be a wizard at playing pool that at same obsession For him that stay same obsession got wrapped up in the pills and he died he died young And we were talking about him like that is what it is that's that's where obsession and addiction Cross paths one can serve you one can ruin you and there they're the same energy It's just how you channel the fire you can channel the fire To wood and cook your food or you can channel it to your house and now you're fucked Like where do you put the fire?

53:42How do you how do you direct it and if you direct it the right way You can have an amazing life and do all kinds of cool shit and have a great time and meet cool people and have a fun life Or you can do it the wrong way and just be on skid row yeah covered in scams it's hard to balance sometimes things that are Take over your soul like pills and shit. Yeah later. I want to talk to you about I got into like the be the business of rehab Not for money. I got into the business of rehab to help people, but but that's later Honestly like I got My whole life was just all music music music. I loved music.

54:19I loved going in my fucking car and just Listening to the things I love like music. I love music of the 70s and I love Marvin Gaye I like all this fucking I love Marvin incredible music earth -winning fires and this that like I just That's where it all comes from so I base my music on the past 50 years of music 100 years of music and um I was doing good. I smoked pounds of weed made my music lived a very healthy life and became very rich and I was in a bubble for so long that one day I'm living in a house that uh um of uncle trump recently just bought does my house on indian creek island Okay, which I owned outright I bought the fucking house for cash from the um widow of the founder of southern wine and spirits and I bought this house fucking massive topiary gardens and incredible thing.

55:16I was living a healthy life and I wasn't in my mind like Cool, but I was like happy. I was cool. That was as cool as it gets because I was balanced and healthy and doing what I love to do but I felt like I was yearning for something bad or I don't know what I was yearning for but this girl ended up showing up at my doorstep very famous girl and Look, I'm not playing the gay like blame game or anything, but it's just a course of events happen Parasilton shows up at my door initially to work on music and we ended up connecting and I learned this whole new way of life like with paparazzi's and being like next to her and then excuse me inevitably hook it up with her and we're now an item and shit and we're you know kind of like We're having tons of fun.

56:15We're good friends, but I think we're both using each other in a certain way like where I'm like Like so excited to be next to this girl who's like the coolest most famous girl in the world. She's like my girl and like She's next to you her passions at that time music and she was like next to me who I'm the number one music producer in the world time and It went on and then inevitably the nightlife led to fucking cocaine and Oh First year you're gonna have going here on Plains and central paid sank boards and the fly is shit you could do and fly is the best fucking coke and all that shit Just having a blast and then it just goes bad and then it's just like There you have relations out you see in the movie below and yeah, you see how hot Penelope cruise.

57:16Oh, yeah, and do we're like in the beginning? Like into each other. It's just gobbins course on like there's no happy ending your foundation gets rotted out under your yeah and like my a list life Was like you know was born there and like I was Now like in that situation and then it ended up with Kim Kardashian and all these different things and like she wasn't even famous at that point But like you know she's cool man. She's always been a great person and like first of I gained a lot of respect for her Which is how to working for criminal and prison reform? Yeah, that's a show is like she's that's it's from the heart She's advocacy for people that are wrongfully accused.

57:56Yeah, man. She's done a lot of good things She's that lady's gotten a lot of people out of jail. Yeah I look as long as I've known Kim. She's never been anything, but just a super sweet person That's awesome. I met her before the fame like I tweeted before the fame and you know, I just I was a hot mess like I was the fucked up one when we were together like I just was not focused. I was just thinking about strippers and drugs and this and that and was just I was still on a high level, but I was living a fucked up life. I had A session Now I moved to Palm Island from Indian Creek because Everything I was doing.

58:38I was trying to impress Paris and like I knew that everybody wanted to be on star island and Palm Island Like close to the party south beach was right. It was south beach south. Right Didn't know that where I was living already was the big daddy like those houses. You have to be a Everybody's there like basso's everybody's there now like where I was I'm To this house of Palm Island I go from my 90 foot yacht to a much bigger I take these leaps just trying to impress her and just below her mind even she didn't need that but I'm trapped doing it. Yeah, it was all from weird mental like thing like I felt a lot of people get caught in that spiral when they start making money I didn't want to be famous.

59:18I wanted to be the most famous. I wanted to be biggest boss. Not just a boss I had to be that guy boy and when I lost everything is like It's bad news and I look I had Janet Jackson at my house to do a session Pre - or post nipple at the Super Bowl. I don't remember I don't remember the nipples But I remember this sweet cool lady when I met Janet I was told to not even like really like talk to her like more like like talk to like somebody and like you know It was like it was like for a while like yeah, I was like Pass your message and tell this person. They're gonna like relay it like even in the same room Said a point where within a few hours when you're collaborating with music just for the first few like minutes this happened and then like Do we became like homies like we was like immediate like I was like fuck that well sometimes it's the handlers The handlers I've seen people that they give themselves extra importance by like saying if you want to talk to her You have to talk to me.

1:00:16Yeah, like yeah, you know like creating a draw for themselves I'm creating like a little bit of insecurity on your part too like a don't address Miss Jackson correct All right, it's trust me. Yeah, I'll dress Mrs. Josh. That's exactly and probably she might not even know about Do we are by the end of the day? I was like, you know I always smoke in my I was smoking my weed She was like I was telling her about the different kinds I had and he's these New York plastic jars and this and that like Just cool as hell, but flash forward to now she's coming to To palm island to work I left her at my house for like seven or eight hours Because I wanted to go to the gold rush and go get some blow and hang out with strippers.

1:00:54It was just like Are you fucking serious like you're really gonna do that like you don't see it at the time because Out of your fucking mind you're out of your fucking out of my mind. Yeah out of my tears It's just so much Too good for things like that when you have so much money and you have power and fame It's like you have too much possibility Yeah, there's too many things that can entice you and if you're doing blow and going to strip clubs all the time It's just like more titties in my face, please Yeah, let's keep doing it. Let's keep party and let's stay up selfish It's yeah, and you're not thinking about it because you're what are you saying good fellas?

1:01:26Hey your brain is going to mush It's in balance. It's true. It's in balance. It's like what we're talking about so you need a balance The a list parties turn to be list parties the be list turns to seal is the seal is turns to fucking street urchins I've had some fucking funny moments though like I remember having a party It was like a super bowl party I had like 700 or 800 people at my house and I like everybody's like fizzling out It's now like nine in the morning ten in the morning. I think Snoop was there. Mike Epps was there Different people were hanging out lingering chilling like family people now it's like friends and shit and like There's a knock on my door at like 10 a .m And it's Pamela Anderson And that shit was the funniest shit in my house living with me At that time was one of my favorite people and um I knew he was upstairs like sleeping or whatever my good friend DMX got rest of soul and Pamela was showing up and I said yo ex you ex check this out I was all geeked out and like so I think it is so funny that I got Pamela coming to my house at 10 in the morning and he comes over the The railing of my house and he's like looks over Baywatch and then he just walked back away walk Get a fucking thing okay Ex was like ex was living with me man and like it was like the blind leading the blind I'm a cool guy that he's a crack addict and I'm like trying to help him I'm like man you really need to get clean man Like what the fuck is real Yeah, so I'm like yo you need to go to rehab.

1:03:09I'm like So I get him a convincing like to avoid like a jail sentencing for something that charge you had whatever He went to rehab and like getting this shit together The place that I had gone that didn't really work For me, but I had him there. I really did care about him. I wanted him off that shit Like whatever that was like a worse evil or a faster suicide than I was even on and um He ran out of the place I got a call from him but the place was directly across the street from the hard rock in Hollywood Florida And he's like calls me he's like yo, what's up? I'm like, how are you calling me?

1:03:46You don't have phone privileges like that in this way. He's like I'm across the street from the rehab at the hard rock with one of the nurses And like I'm like I was like yo ex Cover yourself up Come back to my house. I'm gonna talk to these people get you back in I think wouldn't let him back in it was like real tough motherfucker at own this place And he ended up because it was court ordered. He had to go away I'm at the Montreon one morning a couple of days later and my security is like you'll go There's 50 federal agents here. We like crazy shit, bro It was like I couldn't believe it. I felt horrible And thank you flash forward to not so long ago I was heavily involved in a rehab center in um In California and studio city where we used cannabis for healing And it came to my attention that he was on his last legs X was in bad shape so um I was able to make a meeting happen my partner Steve Lebel If you know who Steve Lebel is Managed bone thugs and harmony and all these people like real legend um, we were partners on this place and We had X coming in he had infecima He was one rock away from death like you know that kind of thing Yeah, so we convinced them we put him on a private plane to Washington to do a detox He went he went through the whole detox and his plan was To Leave the detox and come to our facility inpatient and do rehab He never made it back on the plane to head back And we never saw him again And like I was me trying to save man's life.

1:05:38I really loved man. He was like Such a special guy, but like such a special performer. Yeah, I mean there's there's one of the greatest ever Oh without a doubt without a doubt the power that that guy had in his voice It was amazing, but while people make wild shit In terms I'm one of them I sometimes yeah, you can't control it. Can't calculate or Yeah, I mean go on back to kinesen. I mean that's a dead him and I mean he died at car accident But I mean his he was falling apart because it was all cocaine cocaine and drinking and The wildest of the wilds all get caught up in that life because it's you you escape yourself.

1:06:17It's escape I was just The difference between enjoying yourself and an escape is but no bro like the come down like after like because after a while like That like getting fucked up and going to sleep doesn't work. It's like it's like now you want to go for two days or three days No way you feel at the end of that run. Oh It's no good, bro. It's not good. It's just no good. Well, you're closing in on death. Yeah, that's the reality You do you do you down you people don't like to think that but if you're up for two days You're about four days away from death You keep that up for four days. You're gonna die.

1:06:52You'll stroke out. You'll have a heart attack. You something will go wrong You'll pop something will go off. Yeah, when you're you're you'll get emphyseeing or you get pneumonia You'll get something horrible because your your immune systems destroyed. Yeah But it's like wild people make wild shit and do you get a DMX without drugs? I know it's like you call it sex drugs that rock and roll rock star shit Whatever you want to call it know if you get those people. I don't know if you get Hendrix without acid I don't know if you get it. I don't know if you get it. I don't know if you get it without heroin I don't know maybe I'm so lucky because now I finally realize and I'm like Understand Like all the things you're saying about you can just die and like I get it now and I'm like I'm not doing that and like I lived it though and I got to experience But the music is still fertile and like I'm still doing my thing because a lot of those memories and bro You made it through yeah, you made it through you made it through your alive your healthy You're lucky your blessed fucking lucky is lucky shit and It's just like that's the dance man The dance is how much wild you let in your life and if you don't let any in My beautiful you might be boring as fuck your your art might so I made it out alive All my favorite artists are a little off the rails and always have been for my favorite writers to my favorite musicians I mean so many of my favorite musicians died young It could Hendrix probably one of my all -time favorites, but like that's a great example You know Jim Morrison, Jenis Chaplin all these people died young man Kirk Cobain died young Because they went too fucking hard too wild too wild out of the gate Amy Winehouse Too wild dealing with stuff that like It's not like you could just be an organized Characanic thing Yeah, some people just have less of an addictive personality, but like if you The shit just takes over.

1:08:43Yeah, it takes over And again if you live in that there you go if you live in that wild life, it's like There's no one telling you to stop. There's no one telling you slow down. You have all the money in the world Like what what who the fuck are you? Why are you telling me to slow down? Yeah, we've got it here. I just did the star -spangled banner with my teeth get the fuck off the stage You ever see him do that? Have you ever seen Hendrix do the star -spangled banner with his teeth? Yeah, brazy that motherfucker Yeah, I'm told I'm one of the only guys who could play like music and smoke weed at the same time I don't know how they play music and sing at the same time.

1:09:21I um I'm I met this guy Post Malone part of his business team like him and Dre London this guy Austin Rosen Austin Rosen's a fucking awesome dude like he owns a electric field entertainment Post all these guys Lou Bell they're all part of like some of the most talented and like Just one of the coolest things going on in music for these guys. So I wanted to make a life story like biopic I was gonna do something and one idea I was gonna do and then he was like Austin says dude I want you to go meet this guy He's Charles Roved He owns Atlas Center Tapeman. I don't know if you're familiar with Atlas, but they made like One of the biggest movie producers in the history of movies.

1:10:18He did like Suicide Squad that whole series the dark night Oppenheimer like some of the craziest movies this list just goes on. I'm like, oh shit This guy makes blockbusters. He was gonna make my movie or they're like listen Just go meet him see what happens. I meet the guy And I go in his office. I'm like so nervous. He says to me I don't like you very much Especially from what I read, but if I like you by the end of this meeting I think we'll make a movie. What does that mean? I don't like you very much especially from what I read because like you know There's some fucked up shit like you know like don't tabloid type shit.

1:10:58Yeah, but a lot of it's bullshit like of course it is Made me look a certain way, but meanwhile me and him ended up really seeing eye to eye and I was able to articulate While a lot of these things happened. There was one interview I missed because I wasn't even told about it and apparently it was rescheduled three times and then I was told about it and I unfortunately had to reschedule it Guy wrote the most horrible story about me It was a cover of a magazine and it was me covered with blood all over my face and just making me just look like fucking Hitler and You know, it couldn't be any further from the truth like I yeah, I made them big mistakes, but I did it I was the nicest person giving for I would give the shirt off my back Any person that ever stopped me in the streets to like get a picture like I'm gonna ask him how their day was like you know I'm saying like I'm that guy.

1:11:53Yeah, I'm very very thorough and very consistent. Well, that doesn't sell Yeah, what sells is you're the worst piece of shit of all time. Oh my god. Let me read about this piece of shit So that's that's a horrible thing that journals do for money They make these pieces where they completely distort a person's essence and they only do it for money They're just like emotional hit people. Let's not talk about everything. I left my footprint in the fucking world But anyway, yeah, right. Let's just talk about negative things and only from a very distorted perspective Life is nuanced and bow and it's weird life is fucking crazy And sometimes people make mistakes, but it's not their whole being And to try to like condense a person down to like tabboloid headlines like that's the essence of the person That's crazy.

1:12:40That's like the least compassionate The the least kind way of looking at human beings It's that's not how human beings are we're complicated. That's why those little hit pieces They're gross and they don't really work because people know that they know that a person This is probably a lot more to this like why is this bird? Why is this so negative like this is not a balance Yes, it's one side of that person. Yeah, I'm a complex character if I was at a movie, but of course, but at yes, you're an artist Every artist is complex. I've never met one that is well a very very Raw and real Look at my life has happening now with Atlas Entertainment.

1:13:22We're making a movie major movie. Who's gonna play you? It's got to be several knees because My span of my career starts Oh, I'm a kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah, kid maybe they can see G .I. I turn you into a kid you can play yourself They can do well. I didn't want to be involved in production writing or acting or I think I needed to be respected and real raw like It's not gonna make me look like the greatest guy. It's not gonna make me look like a bad guy It's just gonna make me look like who I was, you know, I mean Do you have any say and like because no one of the things that drives me nuts is when there's a movie and There no one was there and you see like this historical figure say some things and you're like well How do I he didn't really say that some fucking writer wrote that shit.

1:14:08This is not a real conversation a lot of time with somebody this guy dance Frickin amazing talented guy and Yeah, everything is gonna be cool. If I have my way I have an 18 year old son who's literally me who I make all of my music with this kid Jaylin He's my son and he's like one of my best friends. What's like when ice cube son played him And this kid looks just like me and at the time I was his age acts just like me perfect to a point where it's not even normal So I can't think of anybody better, but we'll get to that. I'm not saying he's going to but I would I would love for that to be and I think anybody Could see at this kid's capable.

1:14:51Yeah, and and he is me He's like you feel me like my mouth every like different fucking things like yeah But it's weird when someone's alive and someone's playing that person who's alive and you know like oh That's not always got storage, you know, you mean it's weird. It's like a movie about you and you're you remember when Michael Jay why played Mike Tyson You know and Mike Tyson was I mean they were friends. They were cool with each other But like that had to be weird you're playing a dude who's still alive Mike Tyson's a special guy. He's a very special. He's a very good friend of mine I'm glad he got through that fight and didn't get hurt.

1:15:24Yeah, that's what I was I was hoping you would not check Paul out Just because that's the Cinderella story not I don't have anything against it Paul. I like Jake Paul I think what he's doing is genius. I think what he's doing is like I mean he's got he's making insane amounts money He's having a great fucking time. He's a legit boxer. He's absolutely legit You can't hate on somebody that works that hard you cannot I would never hate you do you're an idiot No, I was like you know what this guy is fucking really driven him at his brother They're like driven like it's not sure everybody starts somewhere.

1:15:55Yeah You know what I'm saying like so there were youtubers where they were on Disney channel who cares do with it But but the reality is Mike is 58 years old and I was worried. Yeah, I just I love that guy and he was a hero of mine when I was a kid So to see him you know 58 years old fighting part of me was like fuck me and he was fought a lot of the same demons And we were there for each other Like in a lot of ways like I've talked to him like pretty deep conversations with Mike and he actually checks on me And like yo you good like and I do the same that's good my friend Rick like we're all like kind of like that's beautiful.

1:16:28Yeah, like That's beautiful. He's a beautiful person. He really is man for a guy was the most terrifying fighter of all time He's a really nice guy to be around. I felt like I was in the fucking movie hangover one time like this I was hanging out with him in Vegas I remember we're cruising around in my fucking Bentley Mulsing at the time and he's like yo I want to let's go jam out We went to the palms from my hotel to the palms and we rented the studio there Just so I could play piano or jamming out of my old records of shit. Oh, that's all but just cruising around Vegas I was like damn it's like fucking hangover That's awesome Great dude man.

1:17:03Vegas is a great example of a place where you have to have balance in yeah, it's like living in Miami to me You live in Vegas. You should probably live in Henderson Yeah, right? Yeah, right? Close to the mountains out there like don't be right in the middle of all that Attack it from the outside That's what I did in LA when I lived in LA. I lived like an hour outside LA I never lived I didn't when I first moved there and then I slowly started moving further and further away I told I got about I am not comfortable in LA anymore. I used to be it's crazy When I open yeah, I sold my house. I got rid of that fucking place in the valley of just Home invasions everywhere.

1:17:43That's crazy. It's like what they've done to that city In a short mere amount of time is shocking. I never thought it would go that bad that fast and it's the way it is now is Bizarre yeah, the the I always say that it's like a girl the East day. She was really cute But now she does meth and she works for the cartel Remember her from when she was sweet and cool. Yeah, well the pandemic was the the reason Why the government was able to fuck up that city? It's the pandemic was just that was their way to fuck up the city to do a stacks of bricks Yeah on the street. Yeah, stacks of bricks. I came from it.

1:18:23Stacks of bricks. It's somebody left there hoping someone will throw through windows Start riots. Yeah, that's a weirdo shit. It's correct. It's like I don't It's spooky. I don't like to go full Batman on this But it's like they're like there's evil villains out there that are pulling the strings of the world And that's real those fucking protests are Organized man people spend a lot of money to organize those things and then put bricks out the whole thing was designed to disrupt society And then the defund the police bullshit how anybody bought into that is so crazy reform the police Yeah, train the police better.

1:18:57Yeah, but deep fund them are you watching all crazy safe? Yeah, are you out of your fucking mind? Do you not know the law of the jungle? Do you not know the real streets? Let me know when your clouds gets robbed you want to do fucking shit You're not gonna get a cop like it's not coming now. I have had so many friends that completely flipped a 180 after they got robbed 180 their trump supporters now. It's crazy people that were like full -on liberals And then they you know get a gun pointer in their face and all of a sudden they're like oh this is what we signed up for This is you're just letting these people out like you arrest these people and let them out and then they just do it again And they got arrested like what the fuck The assistant to the the DA in New York just got attacked just got by some guy who had been see if you can find this He got robbed by some guy who had been arrested some insane amount of times since 2023 I was looking at the story online.

1:19:51I was like this is so crazy that this person just keeps getting out and keeps robbing people And then just rob the assistant to the DA Alvin Brack Here it's suspected gang member accused of exposing himself robbing man hat and district exposing himself. He pulled his dick out any robbed them Exposing himself is funny because they have exposed go to the headline exposing himself is first The robbing part that second, but he showed him his penis. That is unbelievable Unbelievable what is wrong with this word? But it's just like it's comedy bro. It's like satire almost branded Samosa confronted the 38 year old victim in the hallway of her building on West 44th street around 2 a .m Thorey say he grabbed the victims purse cell phone and bank card before exposing himself He pulled his dick out after he robbed her He robbed her first, but they put it exposing himself for the the heart most horrible thing that he did Police were able to track the phone and eventually arrest him near a hotel on West 45th Street 8th Avenue on Tuesday leading authorities to believe the suspect is a migrant Possession of drugs about no they know who the guy is Jamie.

1:20:58They caught the guy He's been uh see if you can find a more updated version of it because um he's he was arrested a ton of times since 2023 Exposing himself makes more sense now that it's a lady. I thought was that Jamie? Oh, okay right there He's been arrested six times in the last five months for similar crimes six times Wouldn't you think After five times they go hey, maybe this guy's a real criminal. We might need to lock it up Maybe we'd need to put him a jail. Maybe he's a real criminal. Nope. Keep him out there Jesus Christ That's the world we're living in now and that's L .A. in that's New York And that's a lot of places that got fucked up by incompetent people.

1:21:36I don't know I just feel safer knowing like Police might go wrong. Oh, I feel safer Knowing that Trump is in office. I do too. I like feel great about it like I just like when I don't feel safer is right now They're launching missiles into Russia. Yeah, how do you how are you allowed to do that when you're on the way out? Like the people don't want you to be there anymore. This should be like some sort of a like a pause for like Significant actions that could potentially start World War III Maybe that would be a good thing that we would like to avoid from a a dying former president It's the whole thing is nuts.

1:22:10I mean, I look. I don't know shit about politics. It's not good. It's pretty terrified Fuck you man Fuck you people you fucking people are about to start World War III Yeah, it's crazy. Russia fired a missile today. I've got they fired an intercontinental ballistic missile for the first time ever So first time one of those has ever been used I said Saturday it's fucking insanity because those intercontinental ballistic missiles can have nukes on them This wasn't didn't but if it does the whole world changes and it changes because the military Industrial complex and it changes because the money that's going to Ukraine and it changes because the outgoing president Or whoever the fuck is actually running the country is deciding to do something decided to do something fucking insane fucking insane We're all sitting there watching it and people cheering it on CNN was saying like finally see what what their headline was about Zelensky using about Biden giving Zelensky the ability to use long -range missiles US made long -wind it's not like nobody knows where they came from It's not like nobody knows we've been funding this.

1:23:14It's a proxy war the whole thing is fucking insane It's insane Come to the negotiation table sit down work this out stop killing everybody US allows Ukraine to use long -range missiles. So what did they say Someone had said that like CNN was saying that it was a good thing Which I think is how how is the left Gone so far crazy that they think it's a good thing to launch missiles That's what scary about life is like you don't want to pay attention to that shit You just want to live your life you want to just be Carefree and have fun and do the thing that you're passionate about and meanwhile the world is burning And you can't do anything about it at that high level.

1:24:00It's like there's nothing Well, we can we voted Trump in and yeah his ideas to stop all this shit and hopefully he can do that Yeah, but you know man fuck it's skiing like none of the fucking Problems between the Ukraine and Russia would have been exacerbated as far as they went had Trump been in office I'd like to think that I've genuinely believed that he has a way of Keeping the peace in a certain way and like well as soon as he got elected the Taliban said let's form a truth You know Hamas is saying look let's cease fire everybody is saying these things like right away China was saying We'd like to do business with America Russia was saying that like let's fucking calm everybody down It's not being so fucking tribal You're so crazy that you think that everything the left is doing is right because you're on the left This is insanity And for anybody that's a left wing progressive person to think that somehow another missiles are a good thing God damn it God damn it you people out of your fucking mind this net.

1:25:07It's never the end. This is craziness Especially with Russia damn What anyway that's the shit that keeps me up at night man Oh, I know when when I get paranoid late at night when everyone's asleep That's the thing that gets me a world war the war just because it's happened before man The world has been at peace before and then all of a sudden chaos and to think that that can never happen again You're wrong. It's happening right now. It's just not happening here and we don't feel it here So we don't it doesn't affect our thinking process and we Support things that could lead to it happening here and we don't even realize we're doing it while we're doing it As a human being like wouldn't you think that Keeping yourself and the rest of the population of the world safe is Number one it's priority that's number one and peace and bad way everybody wants peace Everybody wants their children to be happy everybody wants to be well fed and healthy everybody wants that Just figure out a way to fucking balance it all out.

1:26:10Yeah, Jesus Christ Oh, well We got 60 more days until trump gets in or whatever it is how many days is it Jamie?

1:26:25But who knows maybe once he gets in they'll ramp it up who knows maybe those sabotages administration That's what's even more scary people don't want them in power And the people that are in power don't want to leave power and they'll try every way they can to keep it 60 days from today All right, all right 60 days your fingers crossed. Yeah, just hope Putin understands what's going on as well and Zalensky doesn't do anything stupid But saying that Putin's terrified God damn it. It's like you're trying to like tug the tail of the fucking sleeping Dragon dragon. Yeah, also Zelensky can I get a drug test Can we just get one drug test for sending you any more money?

1:27:04Like what are you doing? How you doing a lot below over there? Is this like below like behavior? I'm not responsible for him. I was there but you know what I'm saying This is like cocaine like baby. Putin's fucking scared man. Yeah Putin's We got him we got him man. We got him like what are you talking about? He has nuclear missiles you fucking monkeys Jesus Christ. It's my chance right now Jesus Christ. Yeah, Putin should not have invaded Ukraine. Yes 100 % But don't start World War III like there's got to be a way to settle this There must be I gotta put some of this into my music like these feelings of like even the conversations we're having One of my best my favorite anti -war songs is ghetto boys.

1:27:47Fuck a war. Yeah, Bushwick bill Willie D told me wrote that in 40 minutes. I like ghetto boys. I love ghetto boys Storytellers like yeah, like polo cool G rap. Oh, yeah, man. That air like cop blocking. Yeah, fucking the best story tellers. Oh my god Scarface. Yeah Cool G. The Elstreet Blues. Yeah, no, I love cool G rap I'm on the verge of committing murder It's like a whole fucking plot. He had a great flow to yeah, yeah, he had a great flow. Yeah, yeah cool G rap was awesome Hip -hop's different these days already. He's like a someone somebody's a devout religious man now really See if that's true.

1:28:30I was wondering what happened. I do that That was a guy that I felt like didn't get his due Like on the world stage like people don't respect him for as good as he really was Because I would tell like some young guys about cool G rap. They don't even know who he is And I play music in the green room You ever hear the brand new heavies like the jazz band when they they linked up with a bunch of rappers the heavy rhyme experience Have you ever heard that album? Yeah, cool G rap's death threat is the best track on that I played that shit in the green room with the mother ship and I was like what is this man?

1:29:04He's saying some shit Yeah, he's saying some shit and it's with the brand new heavies playing the music Fucking tremendous jazz tremendous. They did a great thing with Gangstar too. Yeah, they have a great song with gangstar too. That's on that Yeah, I'd love that's where I entered into my Passion and love for hip -hop is that era? Yeah, saying that earlier, but that's one of my favorite errors. Noz You know God's son that's like one of it. It's almost like the sergeant peppers a rap. Yeah, I'm adding. Yeah, man Oh my god, and how old was he when he made that? He was young really young. Let's say one love.

1:29:45Yeah Genius. How about rewind? Yeah rewind is one of the most genius rap songs of all time He tells a story backwards. Yeah insane and it's genius and it's it's fun and it's it's the flow's great mind -melting shit. I think Naz is my all -time favorite lyricist. Yeah, it's like Naz and then Everybody else is like that mean I love them all but like to me Naz is a special lyricist like his lyrics are spout like yeah He's got so many oh Moments where you listen to me. Oh Oh, it's not even just punch lines. It's like just a whole subject matters. Oh, the way he describes the way he hits things I paint a picture you paint the picture, but it's the way the way he chooses his words like we were listening to get down last night Oh my god god damn that's good a word choice Emma's Emma's to me like one of the really like the greats of that Oh for saying things in a different amount of syllables or yes that you wouldn't expect it's just real creative shit.

1:30:47Yeah, I love jaticus and style speed I think jaticus is like in my my top tops DMX My workout music is Wu Dine clan. Oh, yeah, that's my workout gravel pit when you hit in the bag, you know, and when whenever we do shows we have like a A ritual like when we're driving to the arena especially if we're getting a police escort Which is the craziest shit of all time you're going to do a show and you got a police escort And we always listen to protect your neck like oh, we got to play it like okay Here we go. Let's go protect your neck. Let's go. We're on our way to the arena And then once we get in the door I'm your boogie man Casey in the sunshine band I know kagie man.

1:31:35Yeah, like just to get everything going like let's go kc You mentioned this name I have to do it. I see him at the hit factory in Miami one time I was like wow, it's for kc kc in the sunshine man and we meet and he's like I saw your MTV cribs and I'm just gonna tell you That I spend more on my flowers and my orchids than you probably do on your cars every month I was just like What Wow, what a weird flex what a weird flex. I was like okay, okay cool I think you wasted money because that flowers are gonna die right and I got a boogati so To each his own was our quotes that doesn't even make any sense you're getting robbed Okay, you get right your florist is a piece of shit Hey, everybody's got their own thing.

1:32:24I know you're getting robbed If you're spending that much money on your flowers you are getting fucking rocks or Of course, he was making a point That's a crazy flex. It's also a weird way to introduce yourself to somebody Yeah, I had just met him But in that one of those things where you like you used to be on top and you want to show everybody's still on top Just like you were talking about like wearing the diamonds and the jewelry go up to the guy who's hot right now And say yeah, I saw your MTV craves. I guess what my flowers. Yeah, I spend more money on dirt Dude, I've seen some crazy shit in my life I've had some crazy fucking moments for a fucking poor boy that came from note nothing And rose to like a place where it's like I've seen life on every side of like I've seen life as a poor boy seen life as making it made it Blue it this that I've seen like I'm ever sitting in st.

1:33:19Barrett's I Have been invited on the boat of pretty successful. I'm so very wealthy Russian people I knew I know and Sitting there chilling doing my normal like Just hanging thing and I see a Battleship pull up like actual like Fucking army or navy whatever fuck boat pull up mirrors Somebody gets off the tether Gets on the boat. I'm on And it was cadaphey's son whoa. Yeah Like what the fuck this is surreal. This is and well, you know, I just used cadaphey still alive. Yeah, I forgot I don't feel a year It's like 2008 Okay, yeah, so he's probably still a lot. Yeah, yeah It was telling me how his country is becoming much more like Open -minded and normal and this and that and and I had to keep work.

1:34:19I was like jamming out playing and shit. I'm just such a fucking weirdo. I was like playing Hava Nagila I'm just like weirdo dude. I just funny But I've seen some shit man. I've seen the fucking craziest. It's great American story That's the great American story, you know like coming from nothing chasing your dream Making your dream fucking up your life along the way, but still alive tell the story You know see fucking BMF out at the club All the time and like being the club and I mean like you know these guys over there They just sent you 20 bottles of crystal and you're like, okay, who are they?

1:34:56And then like the fucking the guys Like okay cool. Thank you guys like I was fucking cool shit to me every time. I see you know Weird. Yeah, I never had any drama. I never had any like crazy situations having because I think in the terms of like I was providing opportunity for a lot of fucking people like trying to like make it like rappers from the streets like So people were just always cool with me and like I was respectful to everybody around me. Did you ever Have a communication with that guy who called you the white devil? No, that was it You ever talked to him. I know what I had to do I had to like make my own world and like people that love me and be around those people and that's a terrible way to think Yeah, it's such a terrible way to think that Someone just because of their color their skin even though they work with you and you're cool together that you could just out that person Shit that the other side is endured Over like of course beginning of time.

1:35:56It's like okay, so what whatever, but it just hurt my feelings because it was my fam Right thought and like I guess like I just felt like I just felt fucked up and I was like you know what If anybody knows me they know that like I'm not that devil like I'm the guy that's this loving like Free spirited like open -minded like non -racist right, but that doesn't sell headlines buddy Yeah, I know the white devil sells headlines the white stuff devil gets people feeling better about themselves I moved to LA and started working in Trays camp and I felt so much love and respect and like um, I was I was made to feel like What I was bringing to the table and that crew was like They were like identifying that shit and they were like praising me and making me feel great But you know the expression game recognizes game yeah, right.

1:36:52Yeah, that's what it is who people see you when they hear you And they know they see like oh this guy's a wizard like what's going on? Okay, you're staying here for a long time Scott I live a lot of people down man when I got him into drugs like Like the doctor trades in the world. It's like they're trying to hang in there would be like for fuck bro like at some point You know, they got to like put me on time out, you know So well, that's probably good for you to yeah when you disappoint people that you respect and care for Yeah, that's that's like that's a real emotional rock bottom You know, that's and that's sometimes people need that to course correct If everything's going great you have no reason to stop doing blow and party and all night Everything's perfect And you know, there's a lot of people that will enable you to keep that life going because they're feeding off of you This reload company.

1:37:40There's that but then there's also people that like all they want to do is Keep you happy because they make a living off of you and so they don't want to rock the boat right So they don't care like if you're destroying yourself But truth is There's two different modes There's the guy that can make music and smokes his weed and fucking Eat pizza and just like a normal guy and then when I flip to that other thing The cocaine is not a drug you can really make I feel like Good music on It may seem good what you're making it right listen to the next day because Any the emotions to like a whirlwind of emotions that you feel when you're in that world like you really feel like Happiness sadness this that other like all these things all within 10 minutes you could have all these emotions And it's no good.

1:38:35So how you can stay on something that you want to make people feel a certain way right So that's I mean, I've never done coke but everybody that I know does coke says you can't perform on it It fucks you up. You don't feel right you you know, no because you're feeling 20 different emotions inside a minute And it's like You can only think about one thing where you're on it is that That's it Yeah, there's no real good Not recommended for anybody. I don't know anybody who's got like a great coke story. No, maybe one night But most coke stories lead to my life fell apart no happy ending no No, there's no like coke advocates, right?

1:39:18You know, there's a lot of marijuana advocates They'll tell you I'm marijuana change my life marijuana made me more compassionate because that's me Made marijuana made me a kinder person more sensitive You know more into community more into love Nobody says that because there's no cocaine fixed my life my life is kind of a mess and I started doing blow And man, it all just came together, you know, I realized that's what I need I was a little I think I'm a little in balance. I just need cocaine every day I remember being so perplexed I don't like throwing people under the bus. So I won't say who it is, but one of the most massive people in the world of technology like in the world of These younger computer guys that became extremely famous like start people that started Facebook and this and that all the type of shit like one of those guys I'm like I say who but like somebody who's fucking so huge I went to visit him with some friends of mine I'm sitting at a table Wacking it up and it dudes telling me that He just had a heart attack a couple of nights before and then he started talking about how cocaine is one of the most poorly publicized drugs in the world I was like what the fuck am I listening to me even being onto the influence was like This is frightening This was one of those guys like one of the big big Like change the world kind of people so he was telling you he just had a heart attack.

1:40:46But cocaine is awesome. Yeah Any super smart. Yeah, which is even scarier because you can convince yourself whole world Those who this guy is wow whole world, but you know I've had many situations where now now people so selfishly Even knowing um recovering and recovered or whatever the fuck you want to call it Want him like have the opportunity to do something that pull me aside like I always wanted to do a bump with you Hey guy man, but no We can't do that bro one last time you did one Shit, I mean I've fallen within the past six months, but you know I got good people around me now That's good and like the shame of the guilt and everything just prevents you from From enjoying that and making like even thinking about doing like Can't do that.

1:41:44That's good. That's good. Hey man six months is great. Yeah. Six days is great The whole the whole thing is just you're gonna fall and if you fall get up. Yeah, get up It's okay. You're a human being human beings fuck up. They make mistakes. Yeah, especially when you deal with something like addiction And most people think that can never be me that could be never be I'm not like that. Yeah, it could definitely be you There's things that trigger it and like it's usually pussy You know what I'm saying? Like you're not in it like you have no intention whatsoever of of um Doing something and all of a sudden it's right there in front of you There's a fucking ass naked girl and there's a pile of this and there's you had like the tricks I've done it before and I could just do it this one time.

1:42:29Yeah, I'm gonna be okay. Yeah, it won't be okay Wait a minute. You're looking out the window like Bloodshot eyes like you have pink eye Yeah Yeah, but too much too much going on now man. That's kind of be in the movie with my my single With like my out, you know, it's just Well, it seems like you're in a good place. That's great. That's awesome. That's awesome Well, it's a I think it's so important for people like you to tell your story Raw and unedited like you do because I think people want to see a person that's been very successful and they want to have this rosy View of what their life was like people love to like build you up, but they love tearing you down.

1:43:12Oh, yeah Like it becomes like a and then for me like My business is such a desperate business If people know I'm of sound mind and like at the top of my game and I'm Making some fucking fire ass music That's a threat for certain people of course, so they'll block it like and they'll perpetuate the rumors and do whatever Of course, so make sure that I don't get behind there They're like a goalie for the artist like right so many huge artists. They like They don't want me to get with them because they know it's gonna happen. I'm gonna make better shit People don't like when someone's talented and they don't like when someone's successful because everybody compares himself to other people That's the real the real problem is that comparison is the thief of joy.

1:44:01Is that thorough?

1:44:05Thomas Jefferson Yeah, Thoreau is most men leave live leave lives of quiet desperation But comparison is the thief of joy is that's a real thing man And if you're a person that's looking at someone else's success and somehow or another wanting to diminish that You're doing it to yourself whether you really realize it or not you are wasting your own precious life energy on hating on a person and that will take away your gift It'll take away your creativity. It'll take away your ability to be present Because they're fools that's why they do in the first place job security It's it's a foolish venture and even if it works even if it works You're doing yourself into because you know you're a piece of shit You know that you've done that to a person you know you've distorted who that person is for just because you want to Feel better about your own life You want someone to falter so that you don't feel When you're comparing yourself to them.

1:44:57You don't feel inadequate. And that's that's the reason It's just pettiness just human weakness and it's one of its grossest forms and it's not called out enough You know, it's it's really this it's a disgusting behavior pattern. It's bad for humanity. I genuinely feel joy and excitement and Happiness for friends or colleagues that have success. Yeah, you should and it's inspiring. I just see so many others that just Don't like you look at it like that. They don't selfish But it's haters But that's a good thing and you could say that that selfish in a way because when you Help people and when you're inspired by other people's success and when you enjoy other people's success You are experiencing a positive thing and that positive thing is one of the most important aspects of life like To deny yourself that because you can't control your emotions and you can't control your jealousy and your feelings And to like hate on someone You're denying yourself an opportunity to feel good And you could genuinely feel happy for everyone's success and still be successful It doesn't take away your success at all It's just a mental trap and people need to understand that trap It is insecurity, but it's also a lack of understanding of how your mind works How the human mind can play little tricks on you and lay traps for you and how jealousy can rear its ugly head and distort your views We fall into certain ways.

1:46:32Yes Like we fall into certain ways when I was in the fucking the limelight and now I'm like in like Team Hilton and I'm hanging out with certain people I'm hanging out with like some fucking like spoiled brat lucky sperm club as fucking degenerates and like Basically competing with who could be the most obnoxious in the crew like you don't see that happening until like I looked back at videos and things of me. I was like dude. What a chump. I was like Doing that. Well, I was like slowly but surely like turning into that Yeah, just to be like I don't know Just that's the shit that's fucked up like you as after like really always maintain We really are and like not get lost in that shit and like The brothers are trying to be did we were we talking about this in the podcast the other day?

1:47:24It was at a green room conversation someone said that person Personalities are as infectious as diseases Can be someone was saying that like energy like people's energy is as of infectious as diseases And when you're around someone that has a great personality and and very positive You get infected by that positivity and when you're around shitheads like Fucking dumbasses who just think it is stupid fucking what you start thinking that way. It's it's contagious There's something to it. You gotta be careful about Company we keep oh my god World is so polluted. It's the most important thing. It's the most important thing is your community right your family your friends Your community the people that you associate with and if you're associating with shitheads You're gonna have a fucked up experience the less people I come in contact for me is the better like I like being home I like go to nice restaurants I like being home.

1:48:27I don't really like going out and fucking Because all that energy rubs off on you and yeah people's karma whatever the fuck it is Yeah, like the anxiety everything although the weirdness of people Comparing with each other who's got the better watch who's wearing the nicer shoes like what the fuck are we know over that It's stupid. That's good. You're smart your wiser Yep takes time to figure these things out like but but better late than never Yeah, but you still have the art You still have the desire for the art that through the whole thing I lost that Passion that we spoke of earlier for a while and now it's back like a motherfucker beautiful.

1:49:05Yeah, I'm in there like That's the American success story and when you rather that then at the type height of your fame But the party and the drugs and the fucking chaos and you falling apart It's better to just like embrace the art. That's where it like I've got real. I don't want to fuck with it Right like I'm like not gonna like Chase checks to work on music like I'm gonna work on what's great And that's how you fucking do what's right you stay in your lane and yeah, you do what's you know Is there any way to play the single I got coming? Sure, I have it I'm gonna show you this girl's 21 Is there a picture that you can you know picture?

1:49:44He's like I it's like um I have this single cover. Yeah, I just have the song. I can google it or something. No, it's so good. I'll show you But the girl is like organic like she doesn't need auto tune. She's not like Like it's just real so This is just an example auto tune is a wild thing. Yeah, Abby stare texture I mean, I don't see this every day and like artists usually like some I feel beat. I'm how clean And in this room He's a writer You find the gun, but at least I have some leniency And I may feel something just because you don't And a girl falling hard know it ain't for the week Oh Yes, it's a funny game still it's your You forgot to read the label that's your Faith would die away if I go back to that place I know Sometimes longer to feel the right way on my own My face would die away if I go back to that place I know I hear the fly away 10 times longer to feel the right way on my own I'm a thaw me If you can live without something then you gotta give it up Can't live with it after I guess I'm the problem when it's all said done You left out your fun.

1:52:05I got the last one Something told me When you was poppin shit I just knew you would never live it up Could you see all the battle you fucked around and found out about him But you still shot your shot You don't love my sense So what your list name is who is a girl That's amazing voice you write that shit See the conviction You get a songwriter of big fancy songwriter to work with some girl And like teacher how to have a motion It's not the same that's where she is It's a lot of Amy Winehouse vibes Amy Winehouse vibes In this fact that it's both organic It's different No not like she's copying Amy one But like that vibe of authenticity She's 21 She's 21 And the motion is there that comes from And she writes all that Yeah she's like that's incredible That shit is not something like that could talk to me Put that up again Jamie Is that available right now?

1:53:06Can I get that? Yeah Yeah we just I'm gonna add that shit to my Spotify playlist Right I'm gonna put that on the green room playlist right now On my own Yep That's gonna be the first one I'm showcasing her That's my this is my single It's Scott Stortch featuring Abbey's there But um She we're you know I'm part of the making of her Physical her album which is I already has a bunch of stuff that she made on her own That she made and then stuff I did with her And 1217 records me and my partner Kevin That was just amazing man She's dope And I got some great records I got records with A -list celebrities Like that you know it's not exciting to play Like for me a record with somebody Who has already sold millions of millions of records Like for my project I want to break I made a habit in my career of Breaking artists and like I've like I did Chris Brown's first song And I told him sitting in the studio I was gonna make you a hit record today He was like 1516 and I did that We made run it that day I've done a lot of you know When I came back into the business After my like dark period of just not doing anything Except doing drugs which lasted eight, nine years I met Steve LeBel And Steve Not only were we partners on the rehab center But he was helping me get back into the music thing And he was like yo get me a meeting with Jay -Z Get me Beyonce Get me all the people I made his for his like Fuck no They're not gonna what work with you right now Show them what you're doing I'm gonna give you the best blueprint Some people like to jump the gun Yeah he's like This artist, this artist, this artist, this artist These are all new artists You don't know who they are But if you make them fire Everybody's gonna look at you like you're a fucking Get the highest min trophy again like You know what I'm saying Yeah One by one Every single one of those artists That he put me with That were nobody's At this point Are all huge right now Trippy red A buggy Roddy Rich Russ Who's one of my favorites Like I love Russ I don't know if you've made with his music He's just like He's got something to say He's like He's the man Like you gotta like fuck with Russ He's a really serious artist today I've seen this guy without radio He has a fan base A cult fan base Because what he does is so real Without radio Or any Shit He's selling out arenas By himself That's amazing Yeah it's amazing He's just I loved that that's happened in today Yeah They kind of taken the Fairly happer The gatekeeper is out of the equation now Yeah All something has to do is be good And get it online He released 200 songs of one year Just like SoundCloud or whatever Wow 200 songs in a year Yeah Holy shit You know And he just started That consistency Yeah He was became an acquired taste So you just You love watching people make it Yeah I like being responsible for that It's more of a challenge That just Oh I'm gonna make Drake a hit You know I really want to work with Drake But I've been roadblocked with Drake I know Drake loves Me and my production But for whatever reason I haven't been able to get in I want to get a whole of Drake And talked him about his fight picks That motherfucker loses more money on fights I want to call him up Before it's over You and John Jones by KO Before it's over I need to get a record off with him I'm gonna hit straight I want to get a record off with him Wasn't John Jones a 600 to one favorite I mean well he had it by KO It wasn't just the win But yeah That's what I would have said Anyway I would not have thought John would have I mean That's an easy bet I want to get a record off with Rihanna too I had a very uncomfortable meeting with Rihanna And I'm mortified to this day Uncomfortable because of the cocaine No What happened She was in a VIP In New York years and years ago And doing her thing And whatever Obviously people know who I am So they didn't from They let me up into her table It was a greenhouse And back in the day And I introduced myself And whatever And I gave her a hug And I fucking got hooked onto her hoop earring My club got hooked on And like Don't move Don't move No It was shit's gonna Almost ripped her fucking ear off Exactly Oh no That walk out of that VIP room Was the most mortified Most embarrassing shit I ever fucking felt in my life I was like She's cool I bet she How about you Did I just remember that Do that Like I wouldn't mean to Get her earring I know but still You're that guy at that moment Oh no That guy So yeah, it haunts me You're being so I only remember Look up with that earring You want to make a good impression And you get her ear ripped off Yeah Yeah Yeah Whatever Life is full of surprises Yeah So Is like your favorite Your favorite thing seems to be Breaking new people then Is it because You get to show the world New talent Is it does like Remind you of you When you were getting your breaks You're helping sculpt What somebody's Sound is going to be With backbone What they were they started Like Like Creating something new And uh I think that's uh To me like My sound has always been To not have a sound And like You know Have like different Like Genetic strains of music I call them like There's like different things That I brought to the table That nobody else was doing And then when people start doing It's so much you're honored Copying you and then you move on to the next thing But like with artists You get to like Concoct some kind of new vibe with them I did Beyonce's first solo album When we made a sound We did three Smashes I did three straight smashes Out of three songs I did One was baby boy Naughty girl And me myself and I And at that point I had just moved from LA And like I had been working with Drey for so many years And I'm looking at Drey And like Drey has his empire And I need to like go off And like create my empire Not competing But doing something different Within music And not using that sound That he and I created And sculpt together Which was like the new wave Of West Coast music I moved back to Florida To Miami Where I hadn't been In the Eons Because I went from Florida as a kid And I lived there until I was 15 I moved to Philly My dad And then from Philly to LA And now I'm going from back And now to go start my own little world I'm now rich Okay and I go home to Florida Rich And I'm ready to fucking make my own little sound And shit create some shit Beyonce was one of the first contestants And we fucking solidified that shit And made history with that album Like I remember she did The Grammys And she thanked God And then she thanked me first Like and I was like I have it up I'm like it was like one of the Biggest honors in the world Like and like we made history And that was like That's like That's the ultimate Thing that I want to continue to do is like I want to do that with Abby And I feel like Once I get driven like that There's nothing can stop me Prove my point That's beautiful Scott's been great talking to you man I really appreciate it Appreciate you coming down here It's been a lot of fun Thanks man Wow we did three hours right It's close like two and a half hours now That's crazy I can talk right Yeah man We got good stories Yeah good story And you have a good story Your story is a good story And like I said I think it's a It's a great story for people People That's why people like biographies You know people like to find out Like what was it easy for you Why am I struggling Like what is this struggle like Is it the same for everybody When you're struggling yourself You think you're alone And when you have a dream And you don't know if it's going to come true You know was everybody like this It's a great comes easy Nothing Nothing Thank you for having me My pleasure brother Pleasure to meet you Pleasure to hang with you My man Appreciate you very much Sure All right Bye everybody