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Description In this episode, Joe Rogan is joined by stand-up comic and podcaster Theo Von. They delve into a myriad of topics, ranging from personal anecdotes to deeper discussions about society and current events. The episode is punctuated with humor, philosophical musings, and candid conversations.
Key Discussions
Personal Stories and Humor
- Angus Young and ACDC: Joe and Theo discuss music, focusing on ACDC's Angus Young's energetic performances despite his age.
- Weighted Blankets and Anxiety: A humorous take on weighted blankets and their effectiveness for anxiety, extending into a joke about a kid getting trapped under one.
- Eating Habits: Light-hearted discussions about fast food, particularly Chick-fil-A, and the humorous idea of enjoying them responsibly.
- Flying Dutchman from In-N-Out: Joe shares his unique fast-food preferences, opting for a bun-less "Flying Dutchman" for a healthier choice.
Social Commentary
- Mexican Contributions: Both Joe and Theo express gratitude toward Mexicans for their culture and work ethic, discussing stereotypes and societal contributions.
- Cultural and Political Observations: Discussions about political figures and societal changes, including a satirical look at political endorsements and how public figures influence social discourse.
Serious Topics
- Boxing and Julio César Chávez: Joe provides an in-depth look at boxing legend Julio César Chávez, discussing his fighting style and impact on the sport.
- Crime and Law Enforcement: A serious discussion on law enforcement, the challenges faced by police officers, and societal perceptions of policing.
- Social Media's Influence: The potential for bots on social media platforms to influence public opinion and political discussions, and the difficulty in discerning genuine interactions online.
Speculative and Futuristic Ideas
- AI and Future of Society: Theo and Joe speculate on the implications of AI and technological advancements on society, touching on the idea of humanity's relationship with technology.
- Gender and Identity: A discussion on gender fluidity and societal changes in perceptions of identity, including humorous takes on the future of gender roles.
Controversies and Current Events
- Transgender Issues: Conversations about transgender rights and societal reactions, especially in sports and public spaces.
- Political Events: Discussions on political events, including elections and the behavior of political figures, showcasing the dynamic nature of political discourse.
Sponsors
- BetterHelp: Online therapy platform offering 10% off the first month for listeners.
- DraftKings: Sports betting platform, with promotional offers discussed in the episode.
Conclusion The episode ends on a light note with Joe and Theo planning to continue their conversation on Theo's podcast. They reflect on the diverse range of topics covered, from humorous personal anecdotes to serious societal issues, leaving listeners with both laughs and food for thought.
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Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:03The Joe Rogan Experience Shrink my day Joe Rogan Park has my night all day Good time. Thank you for having us. What the hell was it? Who's the thing's that? How dare you? How dare you say who's the thing's that? No, who's Angus Young? Angus Young is this digitarist, right? Ways of that. It's a... God damn it. I probably used to beat the shit out of me that music That's right and then before him Bonscott Bonscott died of a drug overdose. Oh man. Is that how he died? Just went too hard That's a thing. It's like that's that moment where you're like do we want to go any harder? I saw a video of Angus on stage the other night like recently.
0:53He's like 70 years old from AC DC going ham old fucking dude white hair just dance see if you find that video just dancing around on stage Carl is still up he's like dad you need to put me down yet it takes three minutes to calm him you got a book you got a whole system usually three or four minutes and then by for sure seven or eight he's asleep and he had him awaited do they have a weighted blanket or not for him I don't think they do that for dogs that much anxiety does that really work with people. I feel like there's other ways. There's that one video that like really like kind of kind of weak kid who gets trapped under one or whatever he's seen at a hotel at that birthday party.
1:38Biggest blanket. I mean it's like I guess it's like 80 pound test or whatever. I don't know. I have a threat like a Marlin blanket. I don't know. I have a threat. He's like trying to text for or whatever. Jesus Christ. Oh, it's just a joke. No, no, it has to be a joke. It was really trapped. Yeah, look at you. He was very much trapped under there. Oh, man. He was very, I don't say malnourished or unner, you know, he just did, he didn't like to eat or whatever. One of those kids only to nuggets or whatever. Oh, well, nuggets are better than just chips. At least nuggets are some kind of protein.
2:17Yeah. I mean, some kind of. What do you think Bobby Kennedy's gonna do when he gets into the white starts? I think we're starting. We're rolling? Yeah, we're rolling. Okay. Okay, we think they're gonna get rid of nuggets. I see, here's my take on the, like I was just reading this whole thing about Chick -fil -A and they were saying this is the most dangerous food in America. The number one burger chick -fil -a is like the number one fast food sandwich, chicken sandwich and there's a fucking thousand ingredients in this night. Yeah, just don't eat it every day, stupid. Yeah. I eat them. I'm healthy.
2:54I'm real healthy. You just don't eat them every fucking day. You enjoy them. Yeah. That's not your primary diet. Yeah, if you're going over there every day or whatever, leaving your kids at home to go get one or something, it's your line. You're just fiending. Yeah. You're just fiending for Chick -fil -A all day. Well, they're so good and they come in that little bag. almost has that. They come in the unmarked bag, you know. This is a paid advertisement for Better Help. Life is kind of like a book and every new year is a start of a new chapter, except in this case the pages are blank and you can write whatever the fuck you want.
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4:52Yeah, treat your lady, treat your friend, treat yourself. Treat yourself. Get off of work, I'm gonna have one today. I'm gonna get me a double double from in and out. Fuck it. That's a lot though. Dumb, just get a regular one. If you're gonna go hard, go all the way hard. See, I'm the guy who I would get two singles instead of get a double. You know what I get it in and out I get the flying Dutchman. Oh, you know what that is? It's just patties with cheese on it Mm -hmm, and there's no good it's so good cuz it's fresh Because in and out doesn't freeze their meat their meat is always fresh. So when you get those I mean, it's just perfect man.
5:28It's two burger patties with two slices of cheese And I pick those greasy bitches up and And I feel great. I don't feel bad. It's like the closest thing you can get to healthy food at a fast food spot And so your and your there's no bread on them no bread no bread. No nothing And what do you pick up with you pick them up with two fours like a fucking pig like a sloppy glutton? I just resigned my cell Missouri sushi dude You're like a chicken. It's meat and cheese. Just meat and cheese and greasy fingers. That's a Montana style. It's so hot. It's so hot. You can barely hold onto it. All people do it with the onions on it too.
6:10Yeah, I've had that. Oh, I haven't seen all this. The onions is good, but my way is no onions. I have a block on my computer. I don't think I can look at some of this stuff. Yeah. Oh yeah, if I put the flying Dutchman dude, it's gonna bring up. My buddy Cody gets them with onions inside of them. So they slice up the onions, put it inside of them, grilled onions inside. That's nice. I love onions. I think onions are a underrated food.
6:39Do you think onions have any nutrition in them at all? I love onions too. Yeah. Whenever I eat onions, I'm like, what am I doing here? There's nothing here. Right, but there's something about them that's like, oh yeah, but you want some, huh? Well, there's a tinged, you don't want to love it? I love a good tomato and onion salad, you know? Yeah. When they give those like beef steak tomatoes, like heirloom tomatoes with slices of onion and some balsamic on that pitch. I love this salt. Oh, that's nice. Oh, I love that. That's like an old school New York steakhouse thing, you know, like a brotta -style thing.
7:14Oh, that's good too. If you go brotta, you're great. Oh, the brotta and the tomatoes, you can't go wrong. But the onions and tomatoes, tomato and onion salad I love this like a steakhouse thing. I never really saw it anywhere else. But like tomato and onion sound was like a big thing in like New York steakhouses. Yeah, baby, that sounds good. I like having, I like when you get, there's a Vidalia onion, you ever seen that one? No. That's a beautiful onion, bring one up. If you don't mind, Jamie. But let's guess though, because I genuinely have no idea. Okay. Do you think there's any nutritional content in onions?
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10:17Like some weird shit. You mean there's some. That's of a dolly onion. Okay, so I think I've seen him before. I just didn't know they had a different name. Those are good. There is a lot of nutritional value. I have it on the side. Is that okay? That's what I want to know. Impressive health benefits of onion. Okay, now I feel better for like an onion. What can they do for you vitamin C? Mm easy, we should know let's see look at all that this a little sugar interesting 4 .7 grams of sugar in an onion imagine how nasty would take it outside sugar How nasty would onions taste if they taste that good with that much sugar and just say just God put a touch in there He knew it has anybody ever had onion sliced onions with sugar all over it Mmm, I don't know because you would think we'd bring the sugar out even more right?
11:03You know what I had the other day that was really good watermelon with salt on it You ever have that? No, I haven't had that dude. It's like it's you the love it or you know what the fuck to be done to watermelon Oh, I could see that I love it Mexican people like to put Crazy shit on yeah, chilly mango man. They're like big one in Mexico. You like this fruit in there like now Now you'd like it or what, mother fucker. It's spicy fruit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Crazy. But chili mango works uniquely. Like at all spicy fruits, that's the one that caught on so much it made it with the potato chips. Chili mango?
11:41Yeah, chili mangoes and everything. I haven't had that. Oh, dude, I drink chili mango element. You know what element is? Like the hydration mix? It's nice. I like the hydration now. That's Rob Wolf's company, right? I believe so. Dude, why are people, why does there so much hydration now? And also dude, thank you, I just want to say thank you to Mexican people just for doing everything that they do, dude. I feel like every week we should have a round of applause for Mexican people. I feel like in America. Well it's weird to want to keep them out. You know, they have some of the best food. The nicest people.
12:15They're some of the hardest working people like one of the, and they're organ donors to a lot of them. Well that's awesome. One of the dumbest like stereotypes ever was like the lazy Mexican like what are you talking about? Everyone ever met has like fucking three jobs 12 hours a day like what the fuck are you talking about? I knew a Mexican guy He had to leave work to go to his job All that it never ends dude, you know Mexicans just have a feud with Puerto Ricans back in the day with boxing in boxing There was always like this feud between Mexicans and Puerto Rican and the Mexicans always say that the Puerto Rican didn't work hard enough Like the discipline like some of the Puerto Rican guys were maybe more talented But the Mexican guys were known for discipline like some of the great Mexican boxes like Julio says or Chavez one of the things about him Was his volume was insane.
13:09Yeah his knowledge of boxing was insane but his volume was insane. And the only way you could have volume like that is if you have supreme conditioning. And what does volume mean? Volume punching. Volume of punching. Wow. You ever watched Julio Cesar Chavez? One of the greatest of all time. He passed the longest of all time. No, no, he's still up. And his son is boxing now. His son is a really good boxer. Not at the level that his dad was, but Julio Cesar Chavez, senior was one of the all -time greats. But he would just overwhelm people with volume and just break them down. Pull up a Holy O Cesar Chavez highlight.
13:47Because when he was in his prime, he, one of the greatest fights of all time, was him versus Meljric Taylor. And he, Meljric Taylor, who's an Olympic gold medalist, phenomenal boxer. And he knocked out Meljric Taylor with like 10 seconds to go in the final round. So he made this cry. He made his dude cry. His hair should make me cry. He was that again. Is that the dude from Red Clay Strays? That's his brother
14:15Looks like he can be disguised as once money from him It's my cousin the box or shit. It looks like my it looks like fucking machine gun punching This is so I don't know why he made this dude cry But just go get me a highlight because we don't have the time to like just watch him break this dude down Give me just like a Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. Hi. Oh, excuse me Chavez senior highlight She comes from silver spruce. Those guys, you got one of their jackets on, man. You're wearing red case red case. I don't even realize that. Yeah, I am. They're great, man. God, this is warm. So in the 1990s, he was the fucking man.
14:54He was an animal. He was the man. He was, I forget what his record was before he had his first defeat, but it was something crazy. Like 80 or 90 fights before he had his first defeat. Yeah, he had the lettical. bro and just is there a highlight of his knockouts just give me a highlight of like him beating the fuck out of people he was so good dude look at this he about to cook this bro that was Meljick Taylor oh so Meljick Taylor and him had an epic fight where Meljick was winning the beginning of the fight the Meljick was very good no that's pretty now Whitaker that was a fight where he probably shouldn't a one but they gave it to him and a lot of people including myself watch I didn't think Preminell Whitaker got robbed.
15:36Preminell Whitaker was like the slickest of all of the American boxers of his era. Wow. But who is he, who says his chavez just broke Melchrick down later in the fight? What made him so good then? What made him? Well, you know, what makes a fighter? There's a lot of things, but he didn't stand out in terms like he wasn't faster than everybody right or hit harder than everybody. He wasn't a one punch guy here. He's he was a volume puncher. So he would put guys away by breaking them down. He would break their will and crush them. That was what he would do And he would do with this fucking mean look on his face when he's just at the end of fights when he had guys broken He would just overwhelm them and swarm them He was one of the most terrifying guys because he can keep his pace up 12 rounds.
16:21No fucking problem I'm in a chin, but different, you know, it's like who else that's the final punch that dropped Meljertale Wow, and that was one where it was a fucked up call because Richard Steele knew that Mel J. Taylor was out, but there was really only two seconds left in the fight, but he still has to wave it off because the dude can't fight. So it's kind of crazy. So all these people were mad at Richard Steele because if he didn't do that, Mel J. Taylor would have won the decision. So he stops the fight with like two seconds to go. How many seconds was it when he called the fight off? I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say two seconds.
16:54Might have been five seconds. And what were you doing in that situation then? Well, he's doing the right thing. The referee is there to save the fighter. If he takes one more punch in those two seconds, and that one punch kills him, that's him. It's on him. 17 -1, he went down. So 17 he goes down. So let's see what happens. So he gives them the count, which is a standing eight count. And then he looks at him and he asks him a couple questions. Give me some volume. So look, he's not looking at the clock. He's looking to save this guy. But look at look at the what look at him look at him Wow, he looked him in the eye he wasn't there Three seconds left, but he's doing the right thing.
17:36He's doing the right thing It's crazy if there's three seconds left But he is doing the right thing because a referee's job is to make sure that they stay alive Yes Protect the fighter because a fighter wouldn't make the right choice you're saying right That's why that's why a referee has to protect the fighter from a cut Like if the cut's too bad, the referee has to call it or bring in a doctor to call it. There's some times where the referee, it's a judgment call and sometimes they get it wrong because they're human. But it's a crazy job. They have the hardest job in the world. So the guys like Herb Dean, the guys like Mark Goddard, those guys need more praise because it's one of the most difficult jobs in all of combat sports other than being a fighter.
18:17The second most difficult for sure is being a referee. Wow. Because you got to make these calls. You're like in the middle of chaos in a world title fight where millions of people are watching. And you got to keep this thing together in this very chaotic sport. That would be so tough. Yeah, I wonder what are the requirements to be a referee? Like how much, you know, like to be one of those, like Mark Goddard or, well, this course is you can take. You know, I know big John McCarthy was very instrumental and educating people. Herb Dean is very instrumental in doing this. There's a lot of these guys.
18:53Mark Goddard, they'll put together seminars and help guys that are coming up. And there's probably a formal. Let's see, it's a final, like, what is the website that's like best for if someone wants to go and learn how to be a referee. But, you know. I think it probably just pull up and Memphis and start blowing the West a lot of bunch of stuff. Most of them are massive fans. Of course, most of them train, like Mark Goddard trains. I believe Mark Auder is a black belt in GJ2. We'll have to check that. I heard Dean I know how to a few MMA fights. Oh, so they also have some, a lot of them also have experience.
19:25Mm -hmm. You have to set up some, you have to know what's going on because sometimes especially like submissions and things like that, like things get complicated real quick. Yeah. Like someone not letting go of an inside heel hook. And like that's a scary one. There's like, do you remember who some are Paul Hares? Uh -oh. Choo. No way. His name was Tukino, which means tree trunk. That's like his nickname. Who is Samari's Brazilian? Who is Samari Pajar's? He was the scariest guy of all time. Because he was all leg locks, and he was built like a tank. He was like 5, 8, 185 pounds, just just fucking ball of muscle.
20:05And he would dive on dudes' legs and just rip them apart. Oh, like a pike on time. And wouldn't let go. Wouldn't let go of the legs. So you guys would be tapping. He's the only guy to ever get kicked out of the UFC winning Because he was doing that holding submissions. They kicked them out. They said you can't do that What do you mean you can't do it? You can't do what you gotta let go when the referee says stop Oh, he can crippling people. Oh You want to see a highlight that makes you cringe pull up who's some all Paul Haare's submission highlights Oh, I don't want to see it. Jake Shields punched him in the face after their fight because he got a hold of a Camura Jake tapped and he still kept cranking on it.
20:40He would do that with guys. He just was a pit bull. He wouldn't let go. But there's an unsportsman like aspect. Do you feel like that's unsportsman like at a certain point? It seems like it is. You know you're gonna cripple a guy. You know if you keep twisting on a neat, he's gonna have to have surgery. You know, if a person taps that you let it's supposed to be that's it. You know, and there's the heat of the moment stuff. But then there's some people that just do it over and over and over again. And there's you know, fuck some of them on the ring. So what look at he would do man? He would just get a hold of the guy.
21:13Look at his knee. Look and he's still, he's tapping and he's, that was with John Fitch. Show that one again. So he's tapping. So he gets this knee bar. This knee bar is awful. Look how bad he's tapping and he's still cranking. Still cranking. Wow. Yeah, still cranking. So it was like, he would hold on for an extra second or two, which is more than enough to just throw your knee in. And they kicked him out. A second doesn't seem like a long time unless you're caught in a knee bar. That's seconds that's an eternity where you your knee is getting exploded and you're tapping and he won't let go You got to let go immediately when the person taps.
21:46Yeah, when the referee stops the fight you got to let go immediately Now do you let go when the guy taps you like going look at this there? The referee was on him the guy screaming in agony still cranking Yeah, he might have a vengeance. He might have a oh he was a mean dude But he grew up very poor on a farm horrible upbringing, you know, it's like there's a kind of a crazy story to it a lot of pain a lot of pain Mm -hmm grew up an extreme poverty and Like this scar in his chest the scar in his chest like they had a glue a wound that he had as a child like on the farm They glued it together. That's ways his big scar in his chest.
22:24Just a hard man. Yeah, and a scary dude if you got a hold of your legs Because he wasn't gonna let go. God. I'm glad I don't know him I mean in some ways you know well you glad you're not grappling. Yeah, I'm glad I don't have to know him like adversely Damn dude. Yeah, I guess I'll shine too Yeah, what did you say look for the pickle? I'm right away you had to see him in how long as soon as you saw it shades Shanes in the sauna and you're like you look like a pickle leg Well, you look like one of those kind of eggs I can have in like a little cage or whatever at the gas station, you know Those bucket eggs the ones that are on the bars the pickle the give me one pickled eggs.
23:09Do you know how fucking hungry you have to be? Fucking eggs who knows how long they've been sitting there you like yeah give me one of them There's always some trucker over there to spob and for apples in the tank of them like Babe babe babe. It looks so unsanitary. Bro, in the fart that rips out of your body off the head. How would you get a band chick for, but you're not gonna band that out. You mad? Dude, that has to be RFK's archanimesis right there. Imagine if you were living off those eggs the fart you would have. If that's your only food source. Like let's imagine you're like stuck on a boat in the middle of the ocean with only bottled eggs.
24:00That's a wild. Your own farts are going to make you jump in the ocean. You know, I can't even beat around myself. But there's a lot of like, there's that trucker's high that they get from huffing their own gas. There's like a syndrome or something that starts from it. From people just imagine, that can't be good for you. right KG yourself up at 80 miles an hour with your own parts. And just cruising state to state just fucking just letting it go, baby. And the combination of things, ringdings, pork rinds, Pepsi saying the saying fag over and over again, just all of that just compile that wants to knew and then listen to conspiracy theorists talk on podcast all day.
24:48Just deep into huck in the murky waters of Alex Jones just hopped up. I've been I've been on social media a little too much lately. Yeah. Yeah. I've been reading too many people fighting and arguing about stupid shit to the point where I'm starting to develop theories and I don't I don't want to. Like what do you? Well, I saw Alex Jones and he looks really good. Yeah. He's losing all weight. He looks like he's going to go to court for something. No Sean. Our friend Sean is helping him. He's working out with him every day. Yeah, but I noticed it like in a month I just saw like in I was like oh my god.
25:22Yeah, he's really committed. He's gonna do a documentary on it It's got to do a documentary on take taking back my health. It's so noticeable. Wow. He looks at handsome But the fucking theories is not even him Oh Really? Yeah, there's theories that they were placed in with a different guy Yeah, who did though? That's always the thing. That's the thing. But here's the thing. I know that's not true Like I know the guy who's training him. I know him like I'm still in touch with him. Yeah, like I text Alex all the time I know him he just losing weight But if you go online there's a lot of people that believe that this is like a different person Yeah, there's a lot of people leave has been co -opted by the government There's a lot like he has to chime in on every single thing that everybody wants them to otherwise He's been co -opted and I'm starting to develop these theories where I don't know how much of that conversation is real I certainly think there's a percentage of that conversation is real.
26:16What conversation do you mean? When people think that people have been co -opted by the government, like that they've become, what is that one that they like to use? Control -Doposition. That's what if you want to pretend to be a smart conspiracy theorist, you have to say control -Doposition. I can easily say it. Bro, in two weeks, Tom's the girl where you play in this guy. He looks great. That's all it is. He looks great. But he doesn't look like the same person because he's laid off the boom. He's laid off the booze is 90 90 bullshit Really
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26:50Static pedophiles all day long Take the edge off I mean he looks totally different now he looks like Randy uh -uh Now but imagine if this was no internet Imagine there's no internet so we don't know you believe in a heartbeat it wasn't a rogue guy sure There's no way that's the same guy. This guy on the left looks 15 years younger. Oh yeah, dude, a chubby guy used to do the pool and I worked at this farm one time. He used to do the pool. And one year he got on Dexatrim or some illegal fat burner or whatever. And he came and did the pool one time when I was there and I didn't even believe it was him.
27:32And never believed it. Totally different. So yeah, if you didn't have stuff like this, you would be like, that's not the same guy. So this was just the television days. No social media. Yeah, I think that they've recasted the guy could something happen to him over the office 100 % you would think oh someone Replaced Alex Jones with the fake Alex Jones, but he would tell you if that happened He would be like Joe somebody. Yeah, they replaced me. They would say they replaced me. They're sending somebody He's a fuck is gonna do his voice. There's only four people alive. They can do a good Alex Jones impression Are you are you aware of the Elon Musk Adrian Dittman controversy?
28:07That he I saw something there's a, they said he was a fake person. He made a fake, I think they call them sock puppet accounts. Okay. And it's generally frowned upon to have a fake account. Like, it seems like it would be a fun way to fuck around online. I don't have one, but it seems like it would be a fun way to fuck around online. It takes a lot of time, it seems like. Yeah, but you could have a fake account where if you're a public person, You know, like Elon Musk. You wanna say his wild shit, but you don't wanna take responsibility for it. You just wanna shit post like everybody else, like an anonymous person.
28:44Oh, that's true, he can't do that really. Yeah, I would say that would be a smart thing to do. Did it, was it really him? Did they find out? Is that on ethical? When one person could call themselves, you know, cat turd, you know, that's a legit name for a dude. I don't know anything about that cat, but that guy could just talk about anything he wants to talk about. But if Elon Musk does it well he has the responsibility of his public image But maybe he doesn't want that right like if you it's I don't have a problem with either one of them Yeah, so no you just want to shed your skin You just want to take a layer off and you want to relax at the house You want to kick your feet up and yell something down the hallway you shouldn't yell right and that's what he wants to do I think you should be allowed to do that.
29:23Yes This is one of the problems with making the internet you know like taking away the anonymity But here's my my question because of that, right? So if people can just have fake accounts, and people should be able to, which I think they definitely should be able to do, because of that though, then you have to wonder when you see arguments, how many of these arguments are real people in the real opinions, and how many of these arguments are a disjoint block of accounts that's been purchased by a large organization that is hiring people or using AI to have arguments with people and incite things online.
30:01It's not 0 % people. Now, I'm saying like if you have a personal belief in something like, no, they're not boss, because I think that way I'm not saying that you don't believe what you believe. And I'm not even saying that you're wrong. I'm saying that if there's any hot button cultural topic you can fucking guarantee that some of the people talking about it aren't real. Either they're not real in that these are not the real opinions, they're being told to say these things, or they might not even be a real human. They might be an algorithm, or they're a bunch of people that have been hired whenever there's hot button cultural issues or voting issues, or political issues.
30:48A lot of those people are arguing are not real. Yeah, and there's a real question as to what the number are like how much of this is like real interaction between people and how much of this Is all this meddling that's being done like there's just changing the way people think about things and Forcing and arguing like these things all day very persuasively on behalf of some sort of special interest group Yeah, I think that sounds very plausible especially these days There's like there's not as much you know it used to be that a lot of media was controlled by a few channels and networks Right, I mean that's safe to say would you agree with that?
31:26It was all controlled by a few channels, right? It was all I mean you all you had when we were kids You had I remember when cable came out. It was crazy really. Yeah. What was before that? You had ABC? NBC CBS that's it. No. Yes. That's it and then I know Freakances for Fox Fox was crazy married with children the same sense Fox was nuts Fox was this wild network. So that was that was the force That was the fourth network Mary children was so good. So good. So you have this fourth network and then cable comes along and then Satellite and now streaming and the internet's like what I don't even think we're aware of how much more content We absorb then people that were, you know, what that lived like when I was 21.
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33:47It's just bad like It's gotten to be too much But I think that there's what I'm saying is if if somebody had all that control at one point or a few networks did There's no way that now that they have less control They're not still trying to find that control and that they're hiring different groups to be Twitter bots or Twitter personalities Yeah, yeah, make TikTok counts Keep TikToks about issues one people look people have said flat out that they were offered money and then they got paid money to Make things for political people like make people make people think that they were really excited about voting for someone they would pay them for pro content.
34:29So pro whatever that person is. So there's a whole business in this where they reach out to popular influencers and they say, hey, I want you to endorse this person. Would you do that for X amount of money? Well, didn't it happen with like Megan the Stallion or somebody did it and they weren't they hired recently or some of the, and I'm sure the Republican party did it too. I think that was a democratic one that they had where they hire performers to come and perform. Yeah, this was the this was the big controversy. We tried to get to the bottom of it. It's hard to know so the real the accusation was that there was a few artists Lizzo was one of them.
35:10Yeah, that's another one Beyonce was the big one right and that they were paid and exorbitant amount of money to go and endorse Coma Harris at these rallies I don't know if it's true. It seems like there might be something to it. The day spent so much money, dude. It's so crazy that the economy is like one of the biggest problems that we think of today. Like you think of, like what do you mean the economy? The economy. If people worry, the people that want to vote on things, what do they want? They want the economy to be healthier. They want us to have less national debt, safety. Yeah, they want less inflation.
35:52They want safety on low crime. If that is The amount of fucking money they went through Like you you you spent 1 .5 billion dollars And you paid celebrities to it if that's true you paid celebrities. You're like how am I supposed to trust you? With spending money You actually did like if you were gonna marry a gal and you gave her access to your credit card. You're like, look baby You know you and me we're in it now so Here you go. I want you to be happy and she just goes fucking a ham. Yes She says hey, I'm only doing this Amulets up until we get married Because once then then I'm I'm all about a sensible budget I'm all about fiscally being responsible.
36:45You couldn't believe that you wouldn't believe He'd be like wait a minute. You've been going crazy with these fucking handbags and jewels and shit He'd be like I'm not marrying you then because yeah, we have too much shit I can't even see you in the apartment now Also, I can't trust you with the credit cards. You're a fucking mania dude My I had this roommate for a while This dude and he would get all high on the living room and he would get These empty boxes cardboard boxes and he had a couple cats and he get out there and he'd um And he would have him do tricks and stuff up the box. He'd stack them really high in the living room So like a 20 foot ceiling and he gets stony.
37:24He'd get upset if I didn't come out and watch He will that guy can vote That's the kind of guys go Walt Megan Estallion She's that who she's voting for well fucking sign me up He would get pissed if I didn't come out and watch dude That's what's crazy. They spend money to make sure that people think that famous people will vote for them. I don't think anybody, dude, I don't even believe that there's famous, famous, this, it doesn't even seem like a real thing anymore. It's like, like the other, like I was just texting with Nikki Glazer did the, um, whatever, it's Golden Globes. Golden Globes, right?
38:04That's what it was, right? Yeah, she hosted the Golden Globes. She did, she did a great job, right? I treated a great job and she was like, just confident and fun and ripped. Just, it was awesome. She did a great job. So I was just texting and saying, hey congrats, that was awesome. And I said, were you nervous at all? There's a lot of famous people. And then she's like, no. And I was like, and then I was thinking, it doesn't even seem like people are that famous kind of gotten different over the years. Does it seem like that at all? I think because some of the most popular people aren't, it used to just be like they were movie stars, you know?
38:37But now it seems like it's just chains. Like you could have just as much infatuation for somebody that you saw that made an entertaining video on Instagram as you could for Tom Cruise, you know? Well, you know what I'm saying? Am I making any sense? Yeah. Well, I think one of the worst things that's happened to actors is they talk outside of acting. It's almost the worst thing you could do. Because then everybody changes your opinion to who they are. You don't like them as much anymore. You know, well in Hollywood all was always one way remember what four years ago You couldn't even say the word Trump or Republican and you would be fucking ostracite I mean it was like or eight years ago I'm sure it's probably still like that now in Hollywood We're just not experiencing because you're living in Nashville and I'm living here in Texas But yeah, if you're in certain circles in Los Angeles, they still feel the same way.
39:27Yeah, you know, it's um It's just I wonder how much of the division in this country is caused by what we're talking about by this thing that's legal. And again, I think it should be legal. I don't think you should have to tell your fucking name if you want to talk shit about something that's going on that affects your life or that affects your job or that affects your your kid's school. You shouldn't be subject to fucking prosecution because you said something about the school board because you just felt like being an anonymous person saying there are a bunch of fat Slabs and retards and you wanted to say that but you couldn't say that because then you would get in trouble with your kids You're getting trouble and this and that well that's what's happening in England right now, isn't it?
40:12It's 100 % is it 100 % is is that really happening? Yes, it's really happening you can't give people that much fucking control You can't give people that much control over what a fendzm or what a fendz people what you could say what you can't say Can you imagine if we could if they would come at the end of every episode they'd be waiting outside of your Your mouth. Here's the thing man. This is a new thing. This was an England 10 years ago All right, this is a new thing and it's a scary thing. It's a really scary thing They they arrested thousands of people for social media posts thousands. That's crazy.
40:48Were they threatening people? Well, this is what they're doing, man. First of all, they don't have to be. They don't have to be threatening. What? Yeah, they could be misgendering. There's a lot of things that you can get into. Why be alive if you can't even think or say what you want? People could deem its racist, if it's anti -migrant. You know, they have a migrant crisis over there in Europe. People can deem it, you know, anti -migrant and Islamophobic. There's a bunch of them that are threats, people threaten people online, which totally makes sense. You shouldn't be allowed to threaten people online.
41:24But when you get past that, if you have an opinion about something, about something that's affecting the country that you live in, I think you should be able to express yourself and I don't necessarily think that people should know that it's you. You don't think you should have to carry that around. Like you you should be able to express yourself and not have to be famous. I don't I don't think there's a problem with that You mean and not have to have it be known to you're saying that right You should be able to also have a separate voice if he wants to or anyone to but the problem is If you do that then you're gonna have corporations that are doing what we're suspecting that they're doing and what this one former FBI analyst We pull the biz article a thousand times Jamie, but pull it up one more time just because it's just so crazy You can't believe it's real.
42:09This guy was analyzing the amount of Twitter people that are bots and this was a contentious issue contentious aspect of the purchase When Elon bought Twitter so when Elon bought Twitter they were saying there's only 5 % bots I remember that we sampled a hundred people 5 % of them were bots and he's like that's not enough You have hundreds of the millions of people that are signed up for this how many of these people are fake and they really didn't want to tell They didn't they just like Not a lot. Don't worry. It's like you know, yeah How many bots were programmed to lie if they were asked if they're a bot?
42:45It's like a guy asking you grow. How many guys have you slept with? Yeah, couple nothing four. Don't worry about it. I'm a former CIA cyber operates its officer studies bot traffic Here's why it's plausible that more than 80 % Of Twitter's accounts are actually fake and Twitter is not alone more than 80%. Yeah. See, I don't think we realize that because we're on there for real people on there. But you're real people where fake people are constantly arguing right in front of your face like the world is ending. It's not necessarily all real people. There definitely are real people arguing on Twitter.
43:24Don't get me wrong. And I think even the fake people arguing is very addictive. And I think you want to get involved too because you're like you see in this guy dunk on that guy I want to fucking dunk on something and then people are spending all their time in this job that they hate when no one's looking The bosses and around you know typing up some real witty nasty shit on Twitter and I Think there's You want to be able to do that anonymously, but if you do have that and you don't know who's doing what? yeah you do get to this point where someone can fucking manipulate it but if you do know then the problem is the government has already shown how fucking shady they are when someone comes out and says something that goes against what they agree with or what they're trying to push or what agenda they have or what's best for them financially so they'll fucking throw the kitchen sink at you we've seen them do that you can't have those kind of people in power where they can know exactly who's saying, what, you still have to have the ability to have whistleblower.
44:27So you have this conundrum. On one side, you're going to have this completely manipulated environment that's done by corporations and fake people and people that are paid by parties just to push the party line and to go out there and debate it vigorously and argue it. They're paid to do it. Yeah. And all you have is your wits. All you have is your ability to try to form your own opinions or things, regardless of where you feel like you're pulled because of whatever ideology you've publicly proclaimed to be. I'm a liberal person. This is how I feel. I'm pro this. I'm pro that. And then they'll start fighting about what that means.
45:07What's scary when that happens? Because then you also have locked yourself into a space where you might not change because you're afraid of what your public persona is. Exactly. And that's got to be... Well, that's how you get to Dick Cheney and Dorsis comma Harris and the liberals are like, yeah, boom. That's not as dude, he posted a atomic bomb gift and is like after that happened like, that's over. Boom. Like you guys are just dorks, he don't play sports. Do you realize what kind of mental gymnastics you have to go through where Dick Cheney, Reston Peece, where Dick Cheney, he passed away. He just passed away.
45:42Where Dick Cheney endorsing your liberal progressive candidate That somehow another that's good thing the guy was the architect of the fucking architect of the Iraq invasion Weapons of mass destruction host all that shit. Here's a slumberger guy right scary guy man He was the oil guy right who couldn't put Halliburton. Yeah, Halliburton Fuck bro So what was our I mean as a thing everything is gotten so bizarre dude He's not dead. Oh, it was a fake report fake Dick Cheney death report came from RT parody account. Those motherfuckers go bro. But hey, this is the thing. You can't tell what the fuck is true.
46:27Well, first of all, how is he still alive? You know, let's have any soccer players do we lose his year midfield, mass party tax, just running down the street. People are dying and listen and somehow or another Dick Cheney still alive. Dick Cheney still out there. Different heart. Yeah, that's what they're doing now. I'm sure he does. I'm sure he's on a six or seventh heart. A lot of these You don't think politicians are getting fucking separate hearts in Oregon's dude You don't think they're first in line when they for sure It's probably part of the like if you don't open up a hospital. This is what I want the moment my shit goes south I I want I want a doctor ready with his hands scrubbed.
47:05Yeah. Oh, I bet there's a sick raw shout out there somewhere Every month they're putting a new ticker into him dude. I was reading a a story last night about this dude who was one of the, I think he was a Rockefeller who got eaten. See if that's, I believe he was one of the rock, Rothschilds are Rockefellers. God damn it. One of them fancy people, when you hear the name, you're like, oh, that fancy family. One of those. So this dude went to New Guinea and got eaten by cannibals. Apparently he went there. I'd hate Michael Rockefeller. So apparently he went there and they were fine with them the first time he went there, but he was trying to get something from them and the something that he was trying to get from them was sacred.
47:51And apparently they were very pissed off at him. So he didn't know they were pissed off at him. So when he went back he thought they'd be friendly with them and they killed him and ate him. Oh my gosh. Yeah. And then they hit it. They hit the story forever. So they went looking for this guy. like hey my rich cousin is missing where is he and they're like I don't know they just fucking burp they just ate that dude they just somebody just coughs up a one of those things that keeps your uh what is that thing it goes on their end of your shirt yeah your cuff a cuff link oh cuff link yeah so I got his coughs up a cuff link hey let me give a shout out to the person who's uh it was on their youtube channel because uh I can't remember most of the details of the story.
48:39But if you go to this dudes YouTube channel, he lays it out. I'll try to find a hat that matched with y 'all's curtain in here. This is perfect. You nailed it. Thanks. I get it in here somewhere. I have a real problem with these goddamn YouTube videos. I'm watching too much. I'm absorbing a lot. I'm learning things. But do you think like... Like you talked about Islamophobia in Britain, Did I talk about it? What do you mean? Or did you mention it a minute ago? As a lmafobia? What is lmafobia mean? We were talking about the migrant crisis. We didn't, we're not still saying Islamophobia. I think there's, you know, it's like the migrant crisis in the United States.
49:24It's not a crisis of one type of individual coming in. The idea is that you want to be able to vet everybody who comes in. No matter what, whether they're from Guatemala, or they're from Syria, you wanna find out who the fuck they are. You don't wanna let criminals and psychopaths. It's all that simple. And if you start blocking off people's ability to do that, I always have to wonder, like, what are you trying to do? You're just trying to let everybody in and not check. Are you trying to create chaos? Is that what you want? Because that's what I would do if I was an evil person and I wanted to fuck up an entire civilization.
50:04I would just let criminals in. I would encourage criminals to go there. I would release them out of my jails and give them money to go north. Yeah. You can just walk across to America. We're gonna pay you to do it. I'd like to give a lot of people that believe in some sort of a moral and ethical code. And they feel like they don't have a place to be sometimes, you know? Well, there's also some people that grow up and they just got fucked by the world. They just got brought to a real bad spot and they started off way worse than you and I. For sure. And that's the reality of if you wanna keep a healthy society, you have to keep those fucking people out.
50:44Like the world is not fair. It's not fair. And if you wanna protect the best aspects of the world, you gotta keep them safe. And then spread out, spread out that safety from there. It's not let in all the bad. It's spread out the safety. It's like the way to do it isn't to just let all the criminals in and then oh well now We all live with crime like no that's stupid the way to do it is to solve the crime problem in an area and then expand that area Ever greater across the world that is totally doable. That's totally doable You're never gonna stop all crime, but you can minimize it significantly with a concerted effort Which is not being done?
51:22They're not doing that and there's a bunch of different things that they have to do instead of just hiring cops to fuck people up, they should train cops better, they should pay them more, they should make them more respected. Yeah, I saw them make people appreciate cops instead of like think of them as the enemy. I agree, we always talk at cops who are reliable, but then I guess some cultures have different experiences with cops. But these days cops are so diverse that it's like you couldn't have a, like you'd almost have to be a alien or something to have a racial issue, it feels like sometimes, you know?
51:53Well, I think cops are just like all all kinds of people and The problem with all people is they're gonna vary there's gonna be some people that can handle pressure and and some people that can handle Having power and being a boss. Oh, that's a good bosses. I've had great bosses. We're great guys They made you happy to work with them You knew they were the boss, but it was a cool situation and then you got people that are cuts just because they're bosses You got this guy that just won't stop talking down to you because you know as you can get away with you because you need the job You can get away with shitting on you.
52:25You've all had that too. And that's the problem with being a cop. Like some people are just not good at having power over people and some people are great with it. And then there's the reality of the stress that they face. Every fucking day you might get shot. Every day you're pulling people over. What is the worst thing that's gonna happen to you in your day? Oh, did someone open their door on your car? Oh. Yeah, it's one of the worst things that you could get beat to. I saw it at 10 year old get their face shot in. Yeah. You know, I saw a little girl get run over by a car. I saw horrible murder scenes.
52:58You know, they're going upon car accidents every day. You're seeing so much awful shit. You're dealing with, and then every time you pull somebody over, every cop has seen those videos of people pulling people over and just getting lit with bullets. Just, there's so many of those videos. Getting your gun taken away from you, getting shot and killed. You've all seen those videos. Oh, yeah, it's a Walmart everywhere a lot of that shit. It's like there's just so much violence now Just one where this guy was beaten up this female cop and his daughter was telling her to telling him to stop The daughter was trying to get him to stop beating this cop to death Oh, you know, oh my god, so like that job is not a normal fucking job and When people don't have respect for it and don't appreciate it's a it's a sign of the the sickness of society It's the illness of society that we don't appreciate law and order and we think of it as something that somehow or another that it's uniquely oppressive and that With without it being there you'd have less problem.
54:08So there was that that was all that defund the police thing Yeah, which is just we should have learned from that and I hope a lot of people did like that's a terrible idea the problem is not cops. The problem is cops are human. And they have to stay human. Otherwise you're gonna get fucking Robo cop. Oh yeah. So what are we gonna do? Robo cop could easily get hijacked too. That's another issue. It's like a lot of sciat like if there were cyber attacks like where they wanted every electric vehicle or something to just go drive off a cliff. They could just control like just 100 % if they wanted every of it and just heat to 250 degrees and it's burned down every house sure like if something got hacked You know be very spooky so yeah if cops got hacked or that would be crazy and then also they could just say they hacked Like like you could have a dirty entity hacked the cops and use them for whatever they want and then who do you even sue at that?
55:02What are you gonna even you know? You don't even people you're gonna put a robot on the stand Well, you also you would have to know what kind of like hacking is even possible and whether or not it can be detected. Because if they're doing it wirelessly, like can they do it wirelessly? Jamie, you would probably know this. Can you hack something wirelessly from an anonymous account and like get into a system and no one knows who did it or is everything ultimately traceable if they could find the source of the invasion? I think when you get to that high level stuff, they're going to hacker, like the pointers that they do in the attack goes through so many levels to try to hide where they're going from.
55:45Yeah, so they can hide somewhat. And also, how many of those guys that are operating at that level even exist? Yeah. How many of those super high level hackers are out there? And everybody else is just kind of at the mercy. Like if you like try to understanding that if you don't do that No, it's impossible. So how's a judge gonna understand it? How's who's gonna understand it? Yeah, how are the cops gonna understand it? Right, it's kind of yeah, it's gotta be weird if you know that much stuff. You're kind of in a world of your own Oh, yeah, if you're like a super Bitcoin creator type dude, you're in a world of your own You're you're existing in the the most sophisticated layers of the technological power of of the likes the world's never seen before never seen anything like it and you're the people that are at the head of the code You're the people that are making AI Yeah, you're like crypto for Columbus or whatever you're You're on the Bro, that's great dude if people that's why I've said this years people with autism are the They're the link between regular people in machines.
56:55That's where we're headed. It's all, no, in seven, two generations, everyone will have autism. You won't be able to find anybody that doesn't have it or that doesn't, like kind of freak out if somebody's whistling or whatever. It's almost like whatever the reason why more people have autism today. I'm sure there's a bunch of people that think it's vaccines. There's a bunch of people that think it's environmental issues. There's a bunch of people that think it's Chick -fil -A. Some people probably. could be could be taking that dude it's so fucking good there's no way you wouldn't take some chick phil autism dude if they had it if you like every now and then just a weird guy runs out of the back room with a couple pickles on his back dude I'd fucking be like I love this guy no matter what he has you know I totally forgot what I was gonna say sorry dude it had something to do with autism that oh what we're talking about Like all I think that this is the end of that red.
57:51So just imagine. All right. So there's whatever the reason why there's more cases of autism. Most people, I think, will agree there are more cases of autism now than ever before. OK. But what meaningful changes have we done, if any, to try to limit that, or to try to mitigate that, or pull that back? I'm not sure. And what meaningful, like what progress has been made, where you're saying like, oh, now we have 20 % less autistic kids. So if that's not the case, and yet we're in the greatest technological time that we've ever been aware of, and people have more access to information now than ever before.
58:31Why is it moving in that direction? And maybe that is a natural thing. Maybe all this transgender shit where everybody's like, oh my God, I am so sick of hearing there's boys and there's girls and that's it. Maybe when you find out about plastics and the things that's happening to the human body because it's fucking with our endocrine system and it's shrinking people's genitals and shrinking people's taints and lowering testosterone levels, calling more miscarriages, causing more miscarriages. If you were watching this play out, if you were not connected to us, and if you were like from another planet and you're like, what is this thing doing?
59:10Oh, so this is a very complicated animal and this animal gets involved in various plastics and metals and The it has a symbiotic relationship with plastics and metals where the plastics and metals it gives them cars and handbags and Television sets, but it also Robes them of their primal essence and slowly turns them into these genderless, weird creatures that can only survive by replicating through their DNA. Dude, well said, bro. Because if you were looking at it from somewhere else and you were looking at what are we addicted to? We're addicted to electronics and we're addicted to plastic. We use plastic for everything.
59:55And we're willing to sacrifice something for it. Dude, I was reading this whole thing about petroleum in the healthcare industry and like health and wellness and like oils and shit, like how much petroleum is used and all this? It's everywhere. It's just everywhere. It's bizarrely everywhere. Petroleum is? Petroleum is. Yeah. So you've got oil and you've got plastics and you've got all of these weird funky thalates and chemicals and pesticides and herbicides and we're all aware of it. And like this is really a problem. This is really a problem. I'm like, blasted here. It's all of your food. Like this could be a problem.
1:00:32It was everywhere. It's on fucking Montanto. Nobody can sleep anymore. And everyone's like, well, we'll certainly get to the bottom of that once we make it safer for queer kids. And then slowly we're going to get to a point of no return where our genetics are fucked by our environmental pollutants which have only existed over the last couple hundred years. So our genetics get fucked by these environmental pollutants. And like giant changes in human testosterone levels just from the 1970s. Giant changes. Oh, yeah, dude. So I think if you're on that path and you're clearly on that path, we are as a human race, we're clearly on that path.
1:01:12Fast. And we're also at the same time on the path of artificial intelligence. It's like, how much time do we really have? How much time do we really have here? What if this though? What if a trans kid? How many trans people are there? They're all trans now. Everybody. Right, what if all country trans what if this I think they've backed off a lot of a lot of people have decided that they really didn't want to do it anymore There's quite a few and they get people get mad at them Which is really wild when they when they when they um people get mad at them for changing their mind Have you interviewed anybody that has gone down the surgery path and disin did and didn't want to have this surgery?
1:01:52Have you ever talked with somebody like that? No, I'm just curious with that whole what that world is like Everybody's got their own weird thing with that because it's a weird thing, right? You're you don't like your sexual organs that you're born with you identify with another gender or at least you think you do Right, at least like you Identify with what they like more than what the boys like You're probably just gay And that's one of the things they've studied is when they leave transgender or supposedly transgender gender youths and they don't do anything, they eventually become gay men. Oh, I see.
1:02:28Big, big percentage of them. Yeah. Does that mean they're all like that? And some people don't genuinely have true gender dysphoria? No. That's always been a thing too. And being gay used to seem like if you were just gay, that was everything. It was like, but I guess it was like, it was like, oh, if you were trans or any, now it's LGBTQI, right? And I might as well. There's also yeah, there's intersects just two plus right what is plus what was I don't know I know two is two spirit which is my favorite really I know I'm gonna need they took the cookie two -spirit people and the native Americans know two -spirit is like a a very specific like let's Google it two -spirit is like you think you like Foxkin or some shit like that oh yeah well they they I just where I found found out that i might be fucking up with two spirit is but this is where i found out about this stuff because uh...
1:03:25might a buddy of mine who is new to his wife uh... worth it a public school and he told me that she told him that they were having a meeting because one of the parents had uh... proposed putting a litter box in the bathroom because the kid thinks it's a cat Oh, it's crazy. And he told me that I talked about it on podcasts and people started saying that that was transphobic. And this is a transphobic lie and I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. So it wasn't a real story. What does that have to do with? But what holds first of all, what does that have to do with transgender? What does that have to do with that?
1:04:04You're talking about some of the things that are cat. How is that transphobic? Yeah. And then I realized like, oh, there's a lot of things connected in this one group that are not the same thing. like they're just trying to lump in every idea like say if you only have like you know the electoral college you get like a couple points in this state but if you win like ten fucking states you got a big coalition you can get in the White House you know so it's like if you can't just transgender people on their own too many people like no you can't go into the women's room get out here but then you add them to the games I see you add them to the queers which is like what does that mean you know and then if you're you're more of a buffet of What is this?
1:04:44Are you in? Okay. Two -spirit people, maybe straight gay, bisexual, asexual, or queer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. They're the people that want to pretend the most. I'm everything. I'm a boi. I get one of the shale game time. You're a fucking narcissist probably. You're probably a loon. Or maybe you really have this two -spirit thing. I don't know. But there's a variety of things that are true at the same time. You know, you're gonna have people that are kooky. And you're also gonna have people that unfortunately really do wish they were born a girl. Both those things are real. But the thing about us as a species, if you're looking at these drops that are all clearly established markers in terms of testosterone levels, miscarriages, men who are incapable of having children, low sperm counts, smaller testicles and penises, like we're moving in the, we're moving in a direction of looking like those fucking aliens.
1:05:42Well, that's what I've said this fear is, if you look at an alien, their head is big, because that's the only thing that's going still, and their body is this useless sort of fucking Christmas ornament. Spinley, genderless thing. Yeah, genderless, like no tits. That's stuff that we're all weighted blanket to. Yeah, that's good. Bro, you want to stop an alien through one weighted blanket on that bed, boy. I bet they don't interact with things. Well, of course they don't, because everything happens in their head. It's all built in at that point. Why do you even need if you can just blank and calm or whatever you just you know You fucking blink again and you have a mortgage and then you fucking cough and you're fucking parents are deceased It's just like there's no non non -aware language.
1:06:26You speak every language. You know every fact about everything on earth at any given Moment it's all in your head. There's no questions. There's no yeah, no dick You have no mouth you can't even enjoy food you have no mouth. Yeah, well If I get you got a mouth Food food second It's party. I'll catch in a BJ. I don't know fucking alien Imagine getting ahead from an alien imagine you wake up in the middle of the night like you have a crazy sex dream And you're like oh my god like you're getting like you ever have a dream where you're having sex Yeah, you think in the dream. You're actually having sex.
1:07:04Oh, it feels real guys coming their pants I had a dream I was on an airplane what time did I was fine to fill it out here right and I had a dream that I was doing Oral sex right yeah, and I was just kind of like that in the air and this old dude fucking show me just like get it together Wow, I was on the plane. It was just to get it together. We yeah, I was eating air pussy
1:07:29At that point it's okay Open your eyes and an alien was blowing. Oh, I've been it's like Trapped your paralyzed the aliens just sucking your dick looking you in the eyes Big insect eyes You imagine No, bro, the fuck's you king that's a real harm Your paralyzed alien is sucking your dick. What sound is it make I better make it sound like a Slurpy They do over exaggerate do do do do do do do they give you like a character We know that like it when you make a lot of noise
1:08:11But they're not even moving it's just a feeling and making noise or it also has that light you know like whatever you make a Xerox copy It's something in that fucking like
1:08:24Dude what it was us seeing the other day they're having gay animals now is that But there were having gannels. What are you saying? If you pull that up, Jimmy, if you see anything of it. Or that animal. And the last question is that. Well, I'm just saying, if you see, um, bro, animals fuck couches. They fuck your leg. Okay. You have a dog. Well, some of them will grab a hold of your leg. They know your leg is in a female dog. They don't care. They grab a hold of your leg. Does that mean he's gay? No. Well, it means he's crazy horny. But no, obviously, it's something where they were trying to have a hot, it's like an upscale meat or beef that comes from a gay.
1:09:00Why this one, hold on to this. Why are scientists ignoring all the gay animals? Go down to the back. This is fucking, there's a study. This is like those, that James Lindsay, Helen Pluckrose, Peter Bogosian thing. What does it say? Can I read the headline? Why are scientists ignoring all the gay animals? Yeah. You imagine like you're a scientist and you're trying to figure out how old the universe is and that that's the complaint you read first thing in the morning. You know, hey, hey, hey, hey, this other shit to worry about! Hey, you telling me this autoreno homosexual? I'm trying to figure out how old the fucking universe is.
1:09:44That's why there's not a lot of federal funding for gay animals. Oh, there is now, I believe. You have to get funding for this stuff. I'm sure we spent a bill on it, dude. Yeah, that was another thing that was crazy about the Harris campaign was when you found out that they can pay activist groups They give give donations to activist groups like large sums of money Like activist groups like what so that these people will endorse them Oh, I see there's an accusation that she gave What's that dude's name who's on an MSNBC the old dude? Don Leonard. No, no, no, no. Tom Leonard, you should bind two names.
1:10:26Don Lemon and who? Sugar Ray Leonard. Don Lemon. Yeah. Hey, bro. Hey, Al Sharpton. Don's got a little boy sugar than Ray Leonard, I think. To be honest, no judgment, dude. But I'll tell you this. It's maple syrup. Gay animal. Pro gay animal meat is then be the new thing. You telling me you're at a restaurant, right? Right. And you're a gay lamb. They're like, okay, okay, you can have this lamb, $70 this shank, or you can have this sweet little lamb shank over here. This one's for 90 bucks. Yeah. The best of both worlds. So it's got the firmness of male. Yeah. Well, also, that sweet tenderness of female.
1:11:07Yeah, it's also been basted from the inside, you know? I think there's, you tell me you're not going to get a gase steak, dude, for an extra 20 bucks. You're not going to try it. Well, especially if you're LBGT friendly. You want to support the gase steak market. You have to. Yeah, that's a nice thing. You know, and encouraging straight cows to fuck each other Because they realize there's more money in gay states
1:11:33You're like I'll take a stake you like you like you Better be a good attention market that is social media There has to be a few people out there that are pretending to be gay that aren't like here's a good example For sure. Here's a good example. There were a bunch of girls and people got mad at them because they're hot female only fans girls and they started putting fake dicks in their pants. And pretending that they're trans because I was getting them a lot more views. So apparently the way to get a lot of views is to be a really hot trans person. Like really hot trans people are in right now.
1:12:12Like really hot like a girl. Like a super hot girl with a hog on you with this Oh big ol hog on you so people got mad and started saying that my identity is not your costume Like the actual transportation kind of yeah, but like Right are you doing that? Are you doing that you have a dick and you're saying you're a girl and then these girls who don't have a dick are putting a dick on and you're saying You can't do that. Oh, so they're all this crazy. Yeah, it's like we're caught on a blender, dude First of all, it's very short -sighted because you should be pro trans even if it's fake trans right if that would make more People in the trans people that'd be better for everybody right no matter what now are some people It's a famine thinking are there really some people are People born with weener and breast Is that a real thing?
1:13:07I have not heard of that But I know that some guys do have problems with their breasts like there's a thing when guys take steroids They develop something called gynomastica and gynomastica is an enlargement of the breast tissue I know guys who have had to get their nipples cut open and they have to get that removed and then sewn back together again It's like a serious operation But so our something bad is that's breast tissue because they take so much testosterone that their body starts producing extra estrogen Okay, and then they get titties as a side effect. Yeah, I don't I hope I'm not fucking that up That's what I've been told.
1:13:42I'm pretty sure that's how it goes But the point is that's the only time I've ever heard of like with a dick and tits But some people are born with both genitals right yes That's a little different right that's pretty rare. That's called a hermaphrodite or no I think they call them intersex now people are always trying to come up with new names. Oh, yeah I'm not these growing hot tits Normal breast tissue hormone imbalance causes swelling first of all is some sweet titties. Yeah, first batch I ever saw her, my buddy shot out to him. I'll tell you what, if I could just crop out that right, I could, I could rub well off that right.
1:14:16I used to look at my buddy like that. I could tip, please. You go back to his left. Mm. He could go. So his left, it's like, no, no, no, I don't want to see those, the technical, the actual one. So if you just cropped in, his left, his left, that one. Yeah, let's just crop in that, remove all side of hair. Look at that. Look at that little milk port. He's got a hot athletic girls boob. Oh damn, but that's a fucking little nerve brain. We don't really need to don't do that. That's right. It's a lot, dude. But I'm telling you this, you telling me this, hey, if you don't, you make a stake out of that man, you're not gonna pay an extra 30 bucks.
1:14:56And then the problem would be there would start models with the bulge. Oh, see? Oh, that's it. So, so they're doing it. A lot of people, but what if, do you think though, this is what I wonder sometimes, do you think that science has us headed so we were all that everyone is going to be trans at what? Like it's all merging? Yeah, I think we're going to be genderless, really. Go to that article again. I want to see what they were saying. What would they say? It was only two of them. I don't know how. It could have been. Not on my instrument. This is gang, but they must start a trend. They're all over the place.
1:15:30Only fans models. Can I just read that? Only fans models are targeted by online LGBTQ mob after posing an underwear with fake bulges. That's so crazy That's so great. That's so hypocritical. I Wonder dude. I heard jelly rolls got that thing on him. I heard he's got a real. I bet it does Look at that just two boys being silly alongside a trans flag How can you get mad? How can you get mad? got that donkey on. But you can't get mad because that violates. Like you're saying that your standards are more important than them doing this thing to get attention. That your standards and what's real is not real.
1:16:14Like no, no, no, no, no. It doesn't work that way. Like because the only way, because then it's only your standards. Because if you want that kind of a strict control the way people view things, you're gonna allow people to turn that on you. And there's gonna be way more people that have a hard time with you Saying that you're a woman when you have a dick then there's gonna be for a bunch of girls who just want to take pictures And they have fake bulges. Yeah, that doesn't make you're just being a control freak like you don't you can't have no fake Trans people but only real trans people but don't let anybody right?
1:16:51It's like saying you can't roll who decides what's real? What's not real? Right? It's almost the same with a lot of cultural appropriations, but at a certain point he just gets ridiculous. It's like, you know, Did you see that one dude who faked it for like six months? Fake being black. He faked, no, you can't do that anymore. I'm not doing it. Now he faked being a woman. You know that dude, he was on like one of those reality shows and he had all the tattoos. He was like, good looking guy, which is what was crazy and he said he was transitioning. And he was just a troll. He did it for like six months.
1:17:21Six months? No, just like making videos on one. i don't know i didn't see that but he kept it up forever that dude explaining josh ceter's transhokes alleged fake death and why monica bevely hills and what i know monica bevely hills is me neither um... so this guy it was very smart said he's been undergoing a crash out of most epic pro out of the most epic proportions and somehow RuPaul's Dragways doll Monica Beverly Hills is involved. Is this like a far left wing blog? Because the way they're writing this is like... That's called them. Oh, okay. Well, that makes sense. Because I was like, what is it called them .us?
1:18:05Yeah. I was like, what is the... I understand what the tone of this article is. So, go back to it now. So, he's pretending to be trans, Joe? Yes. Okay. For a long time. Okay, here goes. Scroll up a little bit. Oh, here goes. The former reality TV star has gone viral on social media for the worst reasons. That's definitely not the worst reason. Allegedly faking his own death and claiming it was a hack as well as pretending to be trans and posting photos of himself and feminine clothes as an experimental mockery of trans people that he claims is exposing the woke mind virus. But that's not the worst reason.
1:18:44The worst reasons is like you killed a bunch of folks. The worst reasons you'll let a school on fire. That's the worst reasons. Like that's not the worst reasons for going viral. It goes, why did he pretend to be trans? He came out as a trans woman. He gave interviews with public like page six. But are there people that aren't, came out as a trans woman, you get a reason. So this guy just pretended to be trans for a long time. So he was making a mockery of them. He said five months. So he did it for five months. So, what did he do with speaking? October five months later, he said that he was actually, it was all a social experiment.
1:19:17On an episode of the conservative podcast, Primetime with Alex Dine, Sider said the purpose was to expose how gullible and delusional the left is. What it did is I faked being a faker, he said. I pretended to be a pretender. But yeah, well that's, the thing is, like, people don't want to admit that he's correct because it makes you insensitive. But what he's saying is, like, logical. Right. It's logical and so what if people are actually trained or some people actually trans You have to ask them okay there in lies a problem. I think there are people that are not though There's people that are perverts for sure and pretend to be trans so they can go to women's rooms for sure Oh, yeah, yeah, that's L .A.
1:19:58Of course. I'm not accusing all of them. I'm just saying it. I've seen it There's you're going to have that if you have this thing this loophole this new thing When I was a kid if a guy had a beard and a dress tried to go into the women's room men would go in there and beat the fuck out of them Yeah, they wouldn't let that happen. It's that they would say oh that guy's a pervert and if a woman went into the men's room We thought a bring a couple of her friends That's still in a respect of a way or you would guard the door while they were urinating That was another thing if a woman said I really need to urinate in here, you know, yeah Well no one would care the added thing is he a post a parent Maybe had a relationship with this Monica Beverly Hills person.
1:20:35Oh, it was Monica Beverly Hills a gay guy. It's a contestant from Drag Race. Oh, this person like tried to out them, I guess, and then he denied it. And then I guess there might be evidence of. Oh, so that's their saying that he might have done this all in retaliation for this. See, that's what happens. A lot of times is people will, I just read that. Well, listen, for whatever, maybe the guy's gay and he pretended to be a woman, he's not a woman. All right. So maybe he had a gay relationship with a drag queen. Or maybe it's not even a gay relationship if it's a drag queen. I don't remember anymore.
1:21:11I don't know what the new regulations are. All I'm saying is, if you want to be a person who is open minded and who's compassionate and who just wants to let people live and let live, you can't get mad at these girls putting rubber dicks in their pants. You can't. Well, it's like somebody dressing up like for someone for Halloween, I feel like, right? A little bit. You could say that's what they're doing though. I see what you're saying. You're making your own Halloween. So you can't be upset at me. You can say you're a girl. You can say you're a girl. And you can be a guy with a beard. Or let me think about it.
1:21:48Or let me think about it. And say you're a girl. But you can't make me go along with it. I see what you're saying. I'm not saying that you can't say you're a girl. I'm not saying that you can't call yourself a new name. But if we're in this weird aggressive situation and you want me to say your girl so that you can go do girl things in the girls room and like You can't make me agree to that. That's that's where it gets crazy Like if you're not infringing on anybody else's space If there's a reason girls don't want to be in a fucking bathroom with dudes Yeah, and if it's like trans men in the men's room men don't give a fuck because women aren't going in there to rape men Right, right?
1:22:24So that's the difference They're women that think their men no one cares if a woman who thinks she's a man wants to enter into men sports No one's gonna stop her Right, it's all one direction isn't it isn't it always man going to women stuff well for sports for sure Look there have been women that are they've turned trans and competed against boys that it definitely has happened But the striking dominance that you see were trans men or trans women, biological men who identifies women, compete against regular biological women in sports. Yeah. It's crazy. You get people with like, I would listen to one of them.
1:23:07It's just a delusion. It's just a delusion that you shouldn't let in. If you wanna have an all trans league, do that. That's what we should do, I feel like. It seems like there should be that. So that then, you can't just say you're a girl. You're not a girl. Let's do a DNA test. Let's do a chromosome test. Oh look xy your guy will DNA tell you the truth every single time Well that answer always and be the fucking chromosomes will okay, so there's no look There's gonna be a variable thing. There's gonna be a thing even with that right? So if you have like male and female all male and all female and I created equal There's a giant curve But you're like the most manly man and the most womanly man Oh, yeah, and then the most manly woman and the most womanly woman like there's this giant fucking curve That all it means to be a human being.
1:23:55I can't tell you where you are in that curve. Yeah, I don't know what you are you man You'd be you I'll be fine. I want you to be happy But you can't pretend you're in that other group You can't especially if you are the male pretending you're a female, you want to enter into like women's rooms. You can't do that because there's too much of a potential for that to be abused by creeps. So what's the solution? I don't know what the solution is. I don't know. You know, individual bathrooms. What about that family restroom that always has, dude, I'll tell you this, the worst thing is, one with a diaper table, that one special bathroom.
1:24:30It's big bathroom. You're gonna change diapers. It's got that Australian diaper table in it or whatever. You're like, what is this? You don't even have a diaper, but you do have a hog and a dress. Yeah, and you're like, I'm just gonna use this one. Just not freaking anybody out. Like, Shelley Roldo, he's got that whole gauvin' home. Yeah, but he's, I clearly identifying as a male. Oh yeah, no, it's denying. But if he wasn't, and then he had that big ol' hog, keep him out of the women's room. I'm just saying, he's got that mistletoe on him. I heard you know. That's what I heard, dude. I heard he's got that, you know that thing that copped for out to get the card to stop if it's going real fast?
1:25:03Those those nails on the strip. I'm just saying I already got that rope on him boy damn So whatever dude stay black homie after Joey D .S. Always says stay black Oh my god if you ever seen the video where speaking of Alex Jones where Joey Diaz and Alex Jones Alex Jones is trying to calm Joey Diaz down and I'm next to him I'm just crying laughing and Joey's telling some story by who he smuggled But I was muggled we through the airport under his nut sack They didn't catch them and they're like what kind of fucking security do we have here like See if you can find it because it's I am like literally crying laughing like I can't breathe.
1:25:45I'm fucking crying I haven't seen that I'm trying to go what I see Joey's going off and this is you know Alex Jones of like the early 2000s No, I saw they could they got that new tariff in New York City You see that nine bucks to drive into the city now that's so crazy during congestion time. So during, I think it's 5 a .m. to two. That is trying to ruin that city. Well, I just wonder what will that like, who does it? Obviously, it hits, everything hits people that don't have money, the hardest, right? You know, we're talking about how once people have power over you, once they have control over you, they never want to let that go.
1:26:21Oh, for sure. The East Coast is a great example of that. And one of the best, the best examples is the tolls. The tolls were supposed to be created to pay for the city, to build the roads, build the bridges. But they paid for it a hundred times over. Once it's already been paid, now you're just stealing money from people because you can. So then they just fill their coffers up, then fill their bureaucracy and fill their red tape to justify all this money coming in. It's all a scheme. This is Joey on the Auschon Show. 2010. I watched A .S. They're just better at covering up what they did. They can't make an transaction?
1:27:21I don't know
1:27:28I'm going to kill Michael Jackson. If it was up to me, you know what I know? I smoke another joint. I'll break it down. I'll break it down because he brought the music from former Carton and wanted it back to him. And all of a sudden, they put former Carton in the soup bowl. They tried to build up the Beatles to get their thing going and lost them Michael Jackson. That's right. I believe it goes a lot longer. The best is the end, though. He says, stay black. Kids, just get to the very back. Tommy listen to your bullshit congressman or your bullshit governor or even a bullshit president or somebody who's running for president and he's hitting you with that same bullshit that they give you every four fucking years and you still vote for the fucking Momo and you get mad think about me saying the word fuck with that I'm out here I got to smoke a cigarette.
1:28:10Oh hell on a minute we got to make him say very solid points. Don't do the uh don't do it. No I know Joey you get it. I'm with you but this is the left. The American public know that every four years they buy the same shit they've been buying And they before he is at the same people with their Harvard articulation and Hollywood stories and their Christians and they have a family. And these are the same people that shove it up your fucking ass every year. The one thing that you get about me is I'll say fuck, but I will not fucking rob you. If I need something, I'll ask you like a man. I'll ask you like a man.
1:28:40Hey, hey, you're gonna fuck yourself. You come, hold on, hold on one second. Take a joke, take a shuttle. Joey Diaz, Facebook, Twitter, check yourself before you wreck yourself. Big Dixon Yass. I'll fuck you up. I'm out of trouble. I'm the emphire. I'm throwing. All right, all right. Listen. Stay black, because that's the most important thing. Uh -uh. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe. Dave Black. Hey, Joe. Bro, we got to start getting more. You're going to, when are you going to start to see people just identify as black, then? You can't do that. They won't let you do that. Yeah, but that's what they said about everything.
1:29:15Yeah, but that one's been a hard line for a while. It used to be able to do black face. Think about it. So many people did blackface and movies Robert Downey Jr. did blackface in the early 2000s, right? You can point you can be able to do it and look at that movie soul man. Remember the guy Pretend to be black to get like a car Judging yeah, he did it a lot of people did it Lex Lex their whole. I don't even think He looks I think that's his real skin color you do. Yeah, I think that is okay. That's a rumor the point is That is it's going the other direction. It's not going the direction of like the Rachel Bulls I think you're gonna have a real surgeon coming up.
1:29:53Well, there are people that have tried it. The problem is, now with 23 and me, it's real hard to pull up. Mike Perry? It's got like 2%. You're gonna tell, hey, I ain't gonna tell him, yeah. I'm telling you, that's the show I'm doing. Oh! I ain't telling my, my fairy is a zebra if he wants to be. Yeah. But, can you bring up people that are trying to be black and see like by texturizing their skin, there's new things, Joe. Well, I definitely think that people are taking pills. I've heard of that. Yeah, darkening pills or whatever? Yeah, there's some kind of medication that you can take. Maybe it's a peptide that darkens your skin.
1:30:37Oh, yeah. Maybe a peptide, but I've heard of it. It might even have some weird melanin name, like molylonal melanin or something like that. I don't remember, though. But I do remember seeing it on an internet article where you know There's like how far people going to like look different. Oh, yeah, shit that people are doing dark buddy or whatever they're calling it And you just like take a couple of pills of it. Oh, you think you did Justin for true to doing black face You know, he just retired. Yeah, that's crazy. Well, he got he's stepping down till they find they're gonna have to find a replacement And then he leaves I liked him better when he was black that That was very brief, I think.
1:31:17But still, if you feel as a fucking vibe then. Bro, people have hammered on that guy so much. But for a rightly so, man, that's just, he doesn't seem like he has any strength inside of him of his own. No, no, no. And he almost seems like a character from a Charles Dickens novel. Bring, if you bring up that his retirement speech, from the other day. Yeah. Well, it's fake. That's why. It was like a little further. It's fake. It's all fake. He's like a fake progressive. The whole thing's fake. That's why he was an authoritarian and he kept cracking down on on people's rights and they all really saw it during that Trucker Protests because that's when it was really in front of everybody's face where he couldn't ignore it I hear this guy who is Trying to he's freezing bank accounts from the people that donated money to the truckers.
1:32:04Yeah, I don't want to listen to us Fuck this guy But he very much has a character from a Charles Dickens novel doesn't he? It's because it's performative. Look at you. AI, though. But if you go to see a movie about Charles Dickens, here's one thing when you ever go to see like an old -timey movie, everyone talks in a more elegant and sophisticated manner. Yeah, there's a difference to the way people talk in those like Dickens. I've got Rubella, Dad. Yeah. Tommy has Rubella. You know why? Because it's fake, right? Like that's how people used to make movies back then. Did people really talk like that back then?
1:32:39No. No, people talked the way they talked. It's just people were just not, well they talked and they had different vernacular than they do now. But people when you're performing something, performing something was new. You have to think about this. If you go back and watch movies, like one of the things that's great about the fact that we produce so much content is that what it's done, the entire bank of all the content that people created since the beginning of television being started to the rock and roll boom of the 1960s to the internet to all these to you can see the way people communicate evolves and changes.
1:33:20And if you go back to the earliest representations of broadcast media in the country, everyone talks in a way that's not natural. James J. Brutac like there we are. ABC News World Report Hitler has moved into you know it's like There's a way that they talk back then and then there's if you go watch those movies they talked fake in the movies Like Marlon Brando was the first guy to not talk fake and everybody's like, what is this guy doing? It's revolutionary. He seems like he's a real guy Like nobody even knew how to do that until Brando came along and did it Yeah, and so then movies Became and then you get a guy like a Daniel Day Lewis.
1:34:02Yeah, you know where does he come from? He comes from this entire evolutionary tree of people figuring out what's the best way to pretend publicly. And the way that they would do it in the Charles Dickens movies was a primitive way. It's like when you're watching Albertistic Todd. Rudolph the Red Nose Raindeer was on the other day. It was like Christmas around the house. Oh yeah, the old one, the cremation way. When the snow was moving around, the snowman. Yeah. It's goofy as fuck Santa looks goofy as fuck. It's terrible. The way people talk Santa Seems so fake, but that was a standard. It's like six million dollar man was a good show.
1:34:43Okay. It was a good show Right that was the standard the standard was terrible like we had a terrible standard for communication That standards changed over time It's changed so the people that are still doing it that way It's glaringly obvious. So with Justin Trudeau is doing, he's doing like a fucking strip club DJ voice. Yeah. You know, he's like Lexus to the main stage. Good evening, Manitoba. You don't know who that guy is. You're not getting any of him. That is a mask. You're not getting any of him. Well, he went to that tragically hit concert. Is that the band tragically hit or whatever?
1:35:23Huh? Tragically hit. Yeah. He went to that concert in war of Gene Jack and everybody thought he was like a vibe and I think that's how he won that election or whatever Wow, you know, it's hilarious and then good luck in he's tall and he's charismatic He's figured out a way to bullshit in the beginning before he had any power it works Yeah, cuz he sounded like a sensible guy But people get revealed when they face pressure and when he faced pressure during that trucker thing then he showed his true cards Do you think that they'll take Canada and to be the 50s? First or second state whichever one it is I think This is what I think I think we take Canada and then we go right into Mexico.
1:35:58It's fucking go. Oh Yeah, that's what I said. I tweeted that today. You did I tweeted that see that We should we should let Mexico into I want to be fucking everybody keep sneaking over how we just let them stay here Yeah, huh? Just like how about we go into that? How about what I said? How about what he said? It's like instead of trying to like let all the bad stuff in how about we make this like totally locked down safe and then expand safety expanded but you gotta do it without stripping people their rights to lot but also there's a problem like pollin doesn't let anybody enter out of their country is that right pollin doesn't and that's why like why isn't why don't some countries like uh...
1:36:42i guess america is kind of this it's kind of a half way house of like ideals over the years, it feels like, you know, it feels like, like always thought there was this idea of this is an American, this is what we do, you know, it's kind of like how you were brought up, like with the Pledge of Allegiance, Civics, Class, all that type of stuff, like this is what it means, like forward tough type vibes, you know? But then everything kind of changes over time, and now I feel like, we don't know what America is, and I think that's the part that seems super scary to people sometimes. Well, that's the part that's easy to manipulate, right?
1:37:12So in this moment of chaos that we're talking about, I don't know what America is anymore. That's when you get all these fucking activist groups that are not real. That's when you get this discourse online. That's when you get people attacking. And you get real people that get caught up in it too. And they're getting you caught up in it as well. Because all these people are super addicted to arguing with stuff online. And I see, otherwise, very reasonable people that are on Twitter 12 hours a day. And I just don't understand what the fuck is wrong with you. Otherwise, very reasonable, successful people.
1:37:40What are you doing this? Yes, some people tweet all day. Elon tweets all day. All day, all day, all day. It must be an addiction, right? At this point, I mean, there's no way. And if it's real, do you think it's really him doing it? Well, that was the Andre Dippman thing. That was the thing. The people were saying that this was a fake. So was that proven that it wasn't him? I've been trying to track that down to no idea. I'd heard that it was proven that it wasn't him because this guy who sounds like Elon was doing something while Elon was playing Diablo Live. They had them talk to each other in a space.
1:38:16Right. They would never talk. They were definitely both making noise at the same time. But again, like without seeing both this... I've never seen a picture of the other guy I don't think. That could be AI. Right. You told me a guy like Elon couldn't like just for funsies. Rig something like that. That's sim. He's catching rockets with robot arms. You know, you don't think he could figure that out? He could figure that out. He could have the algorithms talk to each other. I think they can already translate your language. They can take whatever you're saying right now in your podcast and they can translate it to German, they can translate to Spanish, they can translate it to anything.
1:38:55If they can do that, they could for sure have a version of you that's quick enough with AI that it could respond like a person would. Which is all gonna get interesting because now there's, There used to be places if you didn't like what was going on you could sail off to another place But there's not that many of those places anymore. No, that's why we got to protect America We got to protect freedom because if they can lock down on us We are the last beacon of hope for the world and I know that sounds ridiculous. Oh you guys are so ridiculous Hope so you go central look what's happening to Europe look at the chaos look at the chaos Look at what's happening in terms of like how people are upset at their political parties.
1:39:42Look at what's happening with Palestine and Israel. Look what's happening with Ukraine and Russia. Did you see that fucking bomb that went off today? You want to see something nuts? That's real. You don't know if it's real? I don't think so. I don't know. For real? Did you set me in the middle of the night? Yeah. Yeah, I don't think so. Yeah. I was taking a shit. Oh, yeah. Jamie needs to know about this one. Oh yeah dude. I don't like shit tonight because I'll go back to sleep While I'm sitting there my legs will fall asleep. Have you ever that happened to your bub? Yes And then you try to get up you're like I'm stuck here.
1:40:18Oh shit island. Yeah, your legs going numb And then you fall down and hurt yourself. You just imagine that's how you hurt yourself like slipping Your pants down by your ankles and your numb ass stupid legs You bang your fucking head into the night's hand like AHHHHH! And your wife's like, is this what? AHHHHH! Yeah, you're the protector. You KO'd yourself in the toilet room, slam in your head off the fucking door and off. Don't get a big circle in the middle of your forehead for a month. Every time she looks at you, she thinks of you with your stupid fucking bruise, your pants double your ankles, half wiped ass.
1:40:59Yeah My mom used to always come we doze off on the shitter as children You know my mom would always come in there and rescue us or whatever you know that's hilarious Well now it must be more common because of phones. Oh, yeah people are a time a Lot of crazy stuff right? You know the Asians can't eat hot dogs anymore to saw that the other day They're as a general rule. They're not allowing it North Korea. What were you just looking up Jamie? You create a personic thing. Yeah, you need to see this I've already, I've, how to shoot down. It's, I don't think that video is real. I'll just start there.
1:41:37You son of a bitch. But there's already, saying like don't believe the hype from a 2023 Ukraine and the Kinsley Missile, don't believe the hypersonic hype. Well, I remember in the beginning of the war, there was a bunch of footage that turned out to just be video games. It was going everywhere because people can make money from clicks, right? So, I'd say that expression is not real. Can I see that again? Not real. I just...
1:42:03Well, everything's just dangerous now. Um, how do you know that's not real? That when it comes up here, that video of that bomb and that tree lot, that's too... someone edited that part. Those two things aren't the same. In what way? Just, I'm just, uh, my history of looking at this stuff a lot. So... There's a lot of separation right there. Oh, but if it's far enough away for the curvature of the earth, wouldn't that? All right, and theory, it could be real, but this is the only video of this that exists. Right. No one else is finding that this is real anywhere else online. Right. What I'm seeing though is that that thing that you're looking at in the background is elevated.
1:42:48Right. So that would indicate to me hills and valleys. So that means the bomb could be going off in the valley below that and I don't know how far down that is. So if you're talking about an area like this could be Utah right? So if you're taking a photograph and it's like Utah it's got a soccer field. Oh yeah where is it? Do they play a lot of soccer? In Ukraine. Utah? Oh Ukraine? They probably do right? So see what I'm saying? Like that could be far enough over that hill where you get that effective separation and still be natural. It the way that it even looks though it looks like someone's got a TV behind another thing and they're showing an explosion of a TV It the way that that looks is not even right it does look like a little Exposed correctly if you right it looks pulls away.
1:43:37Yeah, it looks grainy or and I don't know how you would be filming that to catch a hypersonic missile it says it was a US people reporter accidentally films it like okay really and it's going pretty slow at that point too Let me see it again. Well, it's perspective thing. Like it might look slower than it is because it's covering a lot of distance. It looks like Terminator 2 really. That's what kind of like starts. It's hard too because like we're probably looking at cell phone footage and cell phone footage is still not that good. So bizarre. They keep making it better and better, but it gets worse and worse.
1:44:13The photos do. Well, first of all like drones, I have not seen one good cell phone drone video so all that argument about like a few of those real Where the fucking videos everyone's got a phone those are those arguments are now out the window because we know the drones are real Right so we don't what here's the result for that console missile thing like It just starts talking about it. Oh the type of missile that they're saying that that was that was a real video It's in theory would be everywhere. Yeah It would be everywhere. What do you mean? There would be a bunch more results saying like look at this crazy video of this missile going off.
1:44:46Oh, I see I see. So that's only there's only one video and there's no other reports of that that bomb. I also like to look at the account that posted it and start looking at somebody other shit they posted it's a little what is oh it's a ship poster. What was that one though that did blow up? Was it in Iran or in Syria recently where they hit some ammo depot the Israelis did and it looked crazy and that was a real one. Well, yeah, you remember that one? I think you're right. I think you're right. That's how I'm making. Oh, it's so scary. You watch the the amount of Explosion when it hits you like Jesus Check this out.
1:45:28Oh, this is a different one, but this is another one that's crazy This is an ammunition depot building that blows up watch this. You're lying Bro, how fucking scary that so play that back again. That's real. Mm -hmm watch this Yeah, that's what it looks like when one of them things blows up. Yeah, that's crazy. Could a Kevlar thing help you from that? A Kevlar? No, no, no, no, no. Everyone's getting smushed, especially if you're close. The buildings are getting eliminated. And what can you hide behind the paper? What type of thing would you do there? There's nothing you're not going to do anything.
1:46:04You're going to get vaporized. But it's only about how much distance you are from that blast. Here's one, too. Yeah, this is the one that aerial is serious. That's right. The Syrian Army one. Check this out. See if you can do it from the beginning. It's fucking bananas dude. What is this? Look at this. Boom. This just happened a couple weeks ago maybe three weeks ago it says fuck look at that and that was in cereal. Mm -hmm. What did they do wrong?
1:46:35We just prayed that was so funny. Oh yeah I don't know. If you really want to pay attention, you have to go down multiple rabbit holes. Okay. But, you know, Assad was just removed as the dictator of Syria. Okay. What's that, Jamie? I thought you did. He did get removed, right? And is he dead or is he? Because there was reports that he was in a plane. The plane was shot out of the sky. But then there was reports that he landed in Russia. So I don't even know what's true. Did he get a shot out of the sky? was that that was like a story that was in the news. I do remember hearing that and it's not saying he's dead when I Google his name.
1:47:18Are the stories still up? It says it's playing gut shot out of the sky. Because I remember there were stories that said it's playing gut shot out of the sky and then there was some Twitter story saying that he was that he landed in Russia. I was like what is going on with this. But they wanted a regime change and they got it. How hard was it for him to get? You know, that's the problem. If you want to go down this rabbit hole and have a conversation like Dave Smith about it, he knows. Yeah, he'll take you down a rabbit hole. He's an interesting guy, huh? He knows a lot. He's very smart, huh? Very, very smart.
1:47:50He knows a lot. He knows a lot. And he like legitimately knows a lot. He's not bullshitting about what he knows. Yeah. And that's why He gets these guys they get cocky and they want to have like Chris Quomla Want to have a debate with them and he just trounces them Yeah, he knows what he's talking about. He's and he's not lying, right the difference between a guy like Like any of these CNN type media Darling types who pushed the fucking COVID narrative and push every mainstream narrative those guys there's that's a very specific kind of mindset. It's a bullshitter's mindset and those guys all melt in front of actual conversations with people like Dave Smith who know what they're talking about are not ideologically captured.
1:48:36Yeah, because there's certain things you just can't argue. You can't argue that it's a good idea to do certain things. And if you have not made that conclusion in your mind, you're still thinking like you're employed at CNN, you're never going to be the guy like Dave Smith in a conversation. because he's not going to argue with you if you're right. If you're right, he's going to agree with you. Yeah, he seems to have locked in. These people that are doing a totally different thing. Reuters reports Assad may have died in plane crash, later removes report. Well, they got the call. So he escaped, I guess, but wait a minute.
1:49:10So they got the call. He's gone and down. And I've seen no more updates other than this that I don't know where you. Do you believe that we still can get real news information, Joe? So not from me.
1:49:26Speaking of which, I have to correct something. Because there was a conversation that I had with Janus Popus and Krista Stefano. We were talking about John Jones. I had heard a rumor that John Jones wanted $30 million to fight Tom Aspenall. And I did hear that rumor. And I did hear that the UFC said yes, but it is not true. So Dana contacted me and said that rumor was bullshit. So I felt obligated to tell everybody that was that was a fake rumor I don't even remember who took because we did that podcast unfortunately we did that podcast two weeks ago Yeah, I don't remember who told me that what do you think the amount is it John Jones would fight him for if you think it's an amount Well apparently John is thinking about retiring.
1:50:04Yeah, and he should I mean he's going to have to someday He should I'm not saying he should retire. I'm saying he should think about it Give the man all the time he wants he can fight whenever he wants to fight that's John Jones He's the goat so leave Malone if he decides one day to come back and he comes back and he wants to fight Tom Aspenall for the The heavyweight title the question is like How long are you allowed to hold on to the title before they start having that conversation now? He just knocked out steep a meowchitch so give the man's months Give the man five or six months just leave him the fucking loan But at a certain point time you have to decide who the heavyweight champion is and if Tom is the interim heavyweight champion and John decides He doesn't want to fight anymore.
1:50:47He could do that and he could do that also and then come back in a year and fight for the title He could do that like you could do whatever he wants, but he might decide you know what? How an unbelievable career never lost Except the disqualification lost to a rule that has since been reversed He's the goat he retires. He's got plenty of money. He's got an opportunity to do some acting Yeah, he's he's an interesting character to me because he seems like them He seems a Unique kind of nice very unique. Yeah, like you can he seems hard to pinpoint kind of make any sense or no But that doesn't ever stop me from conversations with you.
1:51:29Thanks dude I don't require you to make sense Yeah, he just seems boring If I were to listen to you. I really love you. I love talking. Yeah, but you got to make sense Imagine that we're ruined our whole relationship That would be the most ridiculous requirement. You know what Joe said to me? People go, what? That is so fucked up. Why would you say that? God, give me one of those gay stakes. The stakes are 30 bucks more. God damn, it comes out. They fucking pull out of me. You tell me queer shoulders, $9 more per pound. They serve it in a high heel shoe. The way it takes it out of the shoe plates it.
1:52:15The waiter just kind of spooked it on your tongue. Yeah, I'm called a juicy Santa No, the The But they're gonna they're gonna start it's gonna start happening. They're gonna start getting these LGBTQ meat They're gonna start getting with the D you put a D in there
1:52:38They keep another stop in there. Yeah, they always add ones But the one that pisses me off the most the the a that's a sexual hey stay out of it This is not you why you in there. Yeah, see this is like the it's the electoral college things I was talking about right as they gathered up this gang we get enough of like fucking Springfield Ohio Come on in come on in wicked use your boat And then just pile it all on Do you think it's a good idea to get ready electoral college? Do you think it should be one person one vote? Yeah, I kind of do because I think it just there's no way that it's like a skew at all then, you know, I feel like it's one person on vote, that's it.
1:53:24You know, I just worry about still like how many extra votes they had the one time, you know, if that was ever figured out or not. Nobody figured it out. Which seems crazy, but I just wonder once our voting gets compromised, it's a rat. There's theories, but the theories suck. The number's too big to me. 15 million, too many people. You look at the graph of how many people voted, you know, for 2012, 2016, and then there's 2020. It's bananas. People showed up. And then there's 24, it goes back to normal again. And 24 is probably the most consequential election of our lifetime, where people felt more nervous.
1:54:04Like if these motherfuckers get in charge one more time, Like we could get like literally invaded by terrorists. We could lose all of our rights to say things on the internet. I mean they were talking about cracking down on hate speech online. Like the free speech is not hate speech. That Tim Walls guy was actually saying that hate speech. Free speech does not include hate speech. Like what are you, by whose fucking definition yours? A guy who thinks tampons should be in the boys room. Yeah, like when Trump started calling him tampon Tim. I was like one of the best great of all his names. That's my all -time favorite.
1:54:42It didn't get used that much because he only had it for a couple of months because the guy went away as soon as the election was over but tampon Tim is the best. Yeah, I think I'm amazed how quickly after the election everything just felt like. Dude, people in New York are always talking about it. He said people in New York even though they didn't win like their guy didn't win they're happy they didn't win. There's like a a marked feeling of relaxation. Like, because people in New York are realizing your fucking city is under attack. And now it's 18 bucks to drive in and out of it. It's not under attack.
1:55:14And I don't know what I mean. Like invaders. But not too. But there's also your rights are under attack. You're being propagandized. You're getting your finances drained. They're sucking money out of you and not providing you good service. You have terrible leadership. You have corrupt leadership. You know, when they saw it, we built a Blasio, and I think they thought it was going to be better with Eric Adams and this Kathy, Holtz, you're watching these lunatics run that state, and they're running it into the fucking ground. And people have to wake up before the thing hits the rocks. Do you think we'll start to separate into different countries in states eventually?
1:55:53Like, or do you think new things like that will start to happen? You think we'll figure everything out? Well, we are different countries. We're the United States of America, but we're like Europe really like New York is so much different than Idaho You know Iowa is so much different than Florida, you know I mean we all speak the same language, but how much different is Miami to Portland? I mean they might as well be in another fucking country. Yeah, you might you should have a passport to go to Miami Yeah, you should check your papers You want to go to Miami you just went to K and Coons on to go to Easter and washing to do it.
1:56:31Yes, yes, but it's like we're a bunch of different spots and that's one of the things that makes it cool is that you can move to a new spot but like you were saying earlier like you could move to a new spot for now like we moved we moved we moved you moved to Nashville I moved to Texas we moved because we didn't like the spot we're at we found a spot that was like this is better like this is more relaxing, I feel better, but if you are under one universal control and that federal control controls all of the social issues, all of the contentious issues about whatever it is, whether it's second amendment, first amendment, abortion, immigration, whatever.
1:57:14If you have like central control, then you stifle the debate about what's best for the population because when the people get into control, they enforce that and then they penalize the people that don't agree with them. And they make it like real obvious that you step out of line, they're going to come get you and they're going to arrest you just like they're doing in the UK. Well, they're arresting people that are making Facebook post. You bet you are fucking ass. There's a lot of people that want to post things on Facebook and they don't. Yeah. Because they don't want to go to jail. And that's not good.
1:57:45That's not That's not good. That's the problem with centralized control. Yeah, I just saw a thing where they, oh yeah, well that seems like the scariest thing because then it's like, well, how do you think that people here are like people there or that the beliefs here are like the beliefs there? That's why I wish we almost had places where it's like, okay, if this is how you believe, then this is a place for you, right? And if this is how you believe, then this is a place for you. Because I think if we have, you know, I don't think you'd have that many places you need probably 10 or 11 places.
1:58:13Well, yeah, but then you get the problem of people coming into a place and deciding that they want to put their own Beliefs on this place and change the place. Yeah, that's where things get real weird and you're seeing that with You know a lot of countries that are getting a lot of Islamic immigrants and they want to enforce Sharia law and they want to do it in their neighborhoods and do it in their communities and What is that thing is this bullshit because I was there was some some some patrol group of Muslims in New York that were driving around in cars and they were dressed like cops. And I saw that I was like, this is a rage bait, is this click bait?
1:58:53Like what is this? What is this I'm saying? This can't be real. So it was these guys dressed up like cops that had cars that looked like cop cars. So it's something about like, like, could do me a music video or something. It could be, it could be. that this is the result. Muslim community patrols protecting US mosques. So are they just security guards that are around mosques? Is that what it is? And people are blowing this up? That's what it is. Okay. I just saw two election count. The numbers are pretty similar from 2020 to 2024. Really? Now that they have everything? They have 155 million votes for this.
1:59:31Can we see it? The graph? I didn't see it on the graph. See, but the thing was the graph was that there was 15 million extra votes. the graphs were made before the election the counts were all done. Right, but wouldn't that mean, oh, so now the numbers are high again? I mean, yeah, California didn't didn't finish counting until like a week ago. They were in California for a long time. You serious? I don't know the actual date. That's true. Trump was just talking about it. The California hasn't finished counting yet. Bro, they're the worst. How could you take so long to count? Here's the best part.
2:00:04In every close race after prolonged counting for long periods of time, Democrats won. Yeah. The ones over there. What are the odds? The ones where you see like how many county shifted red. That's the same thing. It's like people are getting fed up with it. They're getting tired. They're sick. They're sick of bullshit. So hey dude, we're gonna do my podcast and we're gonna do your podcasts. So this is what we're gonna do. Okay. So we will right now we'll stop, we'll take a piss and then people that want to follow this conversation go to the OVONS podcast And it'll be this from now out. Thank you, Joe.
2:00:40Appreciate it. Yeah, listen to my picture. We're gonna have fun tonight too. Yep. I'm excited. Oh yeah, we'll be at the club. We're coming to the club. Joe DeRosa's here. Oh, we got to let Shane out of that sauna. No, he's out. Oh, yes. Okay. He's a door. He's a big boy. He's a big old man. No, I'm excited to see him. It'll be fun. Thank you. All right, we'll be right back folks on Pio show.
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