#2257 - Bryan Callen

34:20It was like it wasn't a time where two is trash Destruction Vietnam was ongoing. Yeah, right. So it was a time of great confusion and I don't think you could ever compare it's like We go back and we Think about things that happened in the year 1200 like oh the barbaric The concussive cities and sacking of of of Countries by the Mongols and all that's crazy stuff It's a different time. It's a different time. There's different people in a different time Our parents grew up in a different time We are growing up in the most and strange time because this is like coming out of this barbaric sort of primal History and recognizing in some strange way that we're more connected than ever before and the electronics are bringing us connected But also disconnecting us at the same time.

35:18So this is bizarre struggle for like interhuman communication and personal communication and learning how to like in exchange Ideas of people and talk to people in a civil way while you're also You're more informed than ever before more informed on human behavior patterns and psychology We're seeing it play out right before our eyes where you've sat yet a total polar shift of some of the key tenants of the left and the right Where the left is all for a war the left is for censorship the left is for Whatever pharmaceutical drugs are trying to push hot down authority It's crazy a fidelity to authority too.

36:01Yeah, just blind fidelity blind fidelity The left is also become very good at Destruction in a lot of ways I'm not saying the right is doesn't have its problems But the left has become like you and I were talking about this like if you disagree with the left They will come after everything everything the right kind of goes you're an idiot and they'll make fun of you and do a meme about you But the left you know and that that's That's what I call the maker break machine, you know if you look at and this one of the things I talk about with my my specialist Just you take the Caitlyn Jenner who came out Bruce Jenner has an operation for eight hours comes is is Caitlyn Jenner a minute later It was an eight hour the first one was about eight hours right face on the face did a great job by the way By the way, how about this can I just say this like don't say you would fuck her no no take it easy But I'm just saying don't say it.

36:50I'm just saying you think it is saying how about how about a little something for the surgeon He should have won artists of the year that Bruce Jenner 65 year old man looks like a 45 year old woman came out of it But in a minute later one woman of the year All right, dude Listen we all have our taste, okay, I'm sorry. I like 45 year old ladies. That's why I'm looking at you this way I like me a hot 45 year old lady. I'm saying we make up on glamour magazine look very good. I go well kept Forties ladies goes the gym does squats looking good about yeah We'll athlete hanging on because she wants to hang on everything is two maybe six three Well, you're 23 you don't even have to hang on you're just there.

37:25Mm -hmm. You're perfect. It's why I don't take an advice on hells from 26 year olds Yeah, she's more berries. It's fucking on mouth. Yeah, shut your fucking mouth come get getting to my body for a second your hydrogen water You shut your fucking mouth. I gotta warm my feet up a warning. Yeah, exactly. You were just born Do you have this born a month ago correct? Show your dirty mouth correct? I'm calcifying mother fucker And none of your shit's gonna help my calcification. I'm gonna die. I have arthritis. So do I yeah So do I I got to warm my feet up before I get out of the car, okay? I have a whole thing about that But you know that's that that's the reality getting older.

37:58You know, well, you're gonna be beat up Especially if you work out a lot. Yeah, there's just no offense or butts about it. Yeah, shout out to ways to well for keep me glued together though I got a Get it Bob. Yeah, you're gonna get it well and get some peptides and all this too I was talking to Zuckerberg yesterday He's got his knee reconstructed. I said did you get on any peptides? He said no, I go do you hate healing? He looks great, Bob. It does looks good. He's got a thick neck now. I know He's got a thick neck. He's got a perm Yeah, he's he's actually handsome. He's got a he's wearing a jewel.

38:27He wears jewelry very expensive watch He looks great. His watch was like that's prime saying how much was it? I don't know. I don't know a real watch head He doesn't look at prices sir. Oh, he doesn't have to no no, thanks free. It's like I'll take one of those please. Yeah, I'll just miles Thanks for your data smiles I'm in the thank you. No, I like him a lot. I do too. I really do. I don't know I'm hung out with them I've talked to him quite a few times. He's a good dude. He's a good dude with a very weird job You know being in control of what did he say it was three point what billion people use?

39:02Three well, I was telling you this billion fucking people use Facebook I was telling you this the other day. I think his political transformation is interesting because Now there's a cynical view like it's from jujitsu. I agree When you do MMA and you're around other men and you're out your testosterone goes up You start to feel your body. You put your hands on the world. You can have a different perspective for real It's gonna change They have done studies. I believe Jamie you can look as I'm where where when they raise a man's testosterone He becomes more conservative on a win. Yes Well listen man, and it's also a nice lesson to all those nerds out there that think they can never be a beast It's not true It's not true.

39:44You don't have to hate people that are like physically competent and comfortable You can be one of them Yeah, and I always bring up Mikey Musumechi just because he's awesome and he's a brilliant guy who's like Where's he's thick glasses always smiling? Yeah, you fucking kill everybody in the room correct Like Zuckerberg's on his way to becoming that You know and he was if you go back just a few years ago He's a fent just nerdy guy, you know, who's like really smart but not not really physical and now his whole life up here Yes, he's talking about it. He was talking about on the podcast yesterday He loves training because it gives him a chance to express this side that has been demonized in our culture You know it sounds different even he's becoming a man Well fucking broke men are raised by women In our schools and stuff and and because of this Probably in past 30 years masculinity was always considered was was they were taught it's a liability your obsession your repetitiveness all that So our corporate environments, you know, which have really like put the breaks on masculine behavior And we talked about that yesterday too that like that's actually in some ways a good thing because it gives women this opportunity to do Excel as well You know, they shouldn't have to like become a man in order to get you should they should have that You know sexist perspective right imposed upon them and so but it's like everything else.

41:04It's like an over correction Yeah, you know like you have things go completely this way and then they come back like woke like the woke ideology It went so far right or so far left now. It's kind of swinging back Well, the woke ideology has a major problem which was it was reductive right it would reduce yes a complicated world To a binary world which which is ironic by the way But it would it would say to sort of say Um, I can solve all this there are pressers and oppressed. There's power and powerless Uh black and white also there's no forgiveness Zero forgiveness. Zero forgiveness. Don't apologize.

41:40That would really crucify you And you can't there's no retribution. There's no way to come back But my 13 year old son you can see these kids now at 13 Don't start talking to him about this shit because these kids are like That they've already been they figured it out at 13. I'm telling you my son was like I don't feel I don't like this shit I want to do jiu jitsu and wrestle all the time. Fuck also podcast Correct. Yeah, they get to hear actual men who've made it through the maze. Yeah, and aren't a bitch Yeah, and they go hey wait a minute that guy seems really nice and having fun companies an actual man Yeah, like there's real men out there.

42:15That's fun. Yeah, good stuff. Good stuff has a good time. Yeah, that's the point stop crying all the time Well, why are we fucking over sharing? Yeah, why are we promoting and propping up people who fucking cry all the time? Listen, I cry I cry I cry if I'm happy I cry if I'm sad I cry when I think about my dogs that have died I have a whole joke about that. It's like I they're a couple of things my whole joke is this I can't call my friends. I had this joke. I was like if I call my friends and I'm like I'm sad my friends can call me You got the wrong number pussy and it's like jiu jitsu and that's it mean way to talk to me, you know But it's true.

42:49I remember one time I called you and this fucking great I called you and I remember I my audition went bad and it was like the third I would get right there. I was about to in back then remember if you got a TV show You you your money problems were gone for a while. Oh, yeah All I thought about was I get to drink great wine and buy a fucking house and take it right thinking of a nice car Yeah, I fucking called you and I go like this. I go. Oh, fuck dude. I don't know I was good and you go you can't be good. You gotta be great. I go. I know. I know. I know. I just I don't know I'm just I don't know.

43:17I just can't I can't figure it out. I'm and I was bummed right and I was basically saying I'm sad and you fucking go You go yeah, and he was you what do you want to do tonight? I go? I don't know. I just don't know Hey, you'll be alright. Let's just fucking go out of need and do something you'll figure it out The fucking relax don't don't get all like mopey about this shit. I was like okay, and that was it Well, a lot of people get mopey man. Yeah, a lot of friends. I got super mopey when they didn't get things So think about the audition process and I've always talked about this. This is a part of the whole problem with the entire psychology of Los Angeles because a giant percentage of people at least had Somewhere the back of her head some some sort of an aspiration to try to get famous.

43:56Yeah So you move there you have already of Exorbitant need for attention because there's some hole in your past Yeah, you're you're trying to fill up with I want to be a star. Yes, I don't want to be so and then you're going somewhere So you have this need for acceptance and then you're going somewhere where people judge you And most of the time judge you poorly. Yeah, most of the time they don't like you So most things your audition for you don't get and if you get one Oh my god now I'm in and so now these manipulative people that are in charge of casting you they can essentially mold your personality based on what they want if they want a left -wing personality if they want you to be pro -comal and we need a black woman in prison You want you to say all the I took my eighth booster this morning like I believe in science, you know love is love Like they'll turn you into that fucking thing They'll turn you into that thing because the the entire place is about The golden ticket everybody wants the golden ticket I was so lucky because I never had any aspirations about acting I had Remember row I remember you called me remember you called me Let me just let me tell you the whole story behind it when MTV when I did the half -hour comedy hour And then I got a development deal do a sitcom I had never taken a single acting class and also I didn't have this development deal And I'm over there and when the show that I was on got canceled I was ready to go back to New York to be a comic again.

45:27I was like fuck this place But I bought off I had a lease I had a lease on an apartment for a year I'm like fuck right so I have I was stuck in this I couldn't afford to not be in this because now I wasn't getting $20 ,000 a week anymore. Yeah, whatever the fuck I was like holy shit And I was ready to leave and so then I get another development deal and then I audition for the second show I ever do I only had two auditions ever Hardball and news radio and I'm on two TV shows. I'm like this is crazy. Yep, and so I never went through that whole thing I never went through that whole this could change my life my life was already changed I didn't none of it made any sense to me.

46:07I was making all this money. I had a I had a toyota super turbo I was like this is crazy. I'm gonna be about that accurate the new accurate Yeah, dude. I loved it used to pick me up and that shit I was like a little jet fighter car. I loved it But it was just like for me it was all gravy So I was watching everybody scramble for this thing and it was examining the psychology of it And how it affects everything because when people didn't get auditions when they wanted auditions And you went out to dinner with them at night. They were so depressed. That was me. Oh you all the time You all the time you wanted it so bad.

46:40I remember One night and I remember telling you Like why don't you just do stand up? Why just throw yourself in a stand up. Yeah, like you're so funny Do it you're so good on stage, but when you get up there sometimes you're just like I feel like you're auditioning for a show Yeah, that's what I felt like you were doing you're doing stand up Yeah, you didn't want to be crazy But then off stage you would say why you'd say silly things you'd be like well much more vulnerable and ridiculous And that was the funny Brian. I'm like he just throw yourself into the room when I was doing that I finally got my own show.

47:11I'm doing those shows. I was like I fucking do it. I I don't like this I want to just stand up now. Yeah, now I told you I was like the cool thing about being 57 I'm enjoying stand up more now than I ever have well you're smarter now Yeah, and Dom Arrera said this to me years ago. He's like Joe You know, he was like in his 60s at the time. It's like Joe. I never been sharp with it He just keep doing it and you keep getting better. We're so lucky. We're common We're so lucky and he was he was better in his 60s than he was in his Always grace he's always 60s hilarious. I paid to see Dom Arrera before I ever did stand up comedy This episode is brought to you by Life Lock.

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50:34I'm good. So did I so did I did you I was in college and I was at the improv in New York and my father took me to we sat there and watched Dom Arrera And I remember that's why when when when I come off stage at the lab factory and I was still a little in awe of Dom And Dom goes right come over here and I was like oh maybe he's gonna give me some pointers, you know And I go over I go he goes you know what I love about your act. I go what and he goes You don't go for the laughs That was the best of that the subtle diss the comedy diss I became friends with Dom well. I think I'd actually done an open mic night or two before I met him But uh, then I but for us paid to see him rather but then Not that long afterwards.

51:20So this is like Four years later like 92 Uh, I was working with him in Montreal. We did the uh, that's intimidating. Yeah, it wasn't though. He was super cool Yeah, maybe it was a year after he was a real comic man real comics and maybe it was 93 so maybe it was like five years later So I'm like real raw and comedy, but I had my feet under me at that point in time where I had some material that could kill Like I wasn't a really good comic, but I had a few jokes especially sex jokes that were bangers. They were bangers and So we did Montreal together and then I was in Amsterdam billiards. This is in my Almost became a professional pool player stage like if if pool was a real career like golf I would have become a pool player.

52:06Yeah, I just loved it. I love the pool. I can't get into golf people I'm so lucky. I can tear fucking crazy, but um, I love the the pool players I love the this the hang they were just so different There were outcasts and they were loose and fun and we we said ridiculous shit to each other and everybody was laughing all the time It was always fun um, and I saw it playing pool every night and so uh, I had a gig and Before the gig I think or maybe after the gig I went to Amsterdam and Donner air pulls up and he's got his home cue And I was like dumb you play pool. He's like yeah, you play pool. I go I fucking love pool I go let's play some pool and he was good We were playing straight pool Which is like the type of pool they played in the movie the hustler It's very rarely played in America anymore But it's an amazing game you play with a stack of 15 balls and you knock off one the first break is like a safe break And everybody moves balls around till someone makes a mistake and leaves an opening and that guy smashes into the balls And then you run as many balls you can in order so it's called 14 and one so it doesn't matter if it's solid You leave 14 balls on the table and the one ball like you leave a break ball and then you wrap the other 14 And so you shoot the break ball in the idea is to collide your cue ball into the stack and keep running So let me give a shout out to Jason Shaw because Jason Shaw who's one of the best pool players on earth One of the greatest of all time He just broke the world record in straight pool this week and I think I think he ran 839 balls Jason with a wide J .A.

53:45One dude from Scott 39 in a row fuck yeah He's trying to get to a thousand So he got 832 832 so the record before was set by Willy, Moscone in Like the 60s and it was on an eight foot table with big pockets That was like 500 and something balls so he beat that He ran 714 balls So that was the previous world record he also owned and then he just ran 832 balls When I tell you like the concentration involved in doing that because you're talking about hours of play I mean, I don't know how many racks of 15 balls is 832 Someone do the math. I think when you do I think when you get that good at anything you learn about you learn everything about life Well, he's a wizard and about yourself.

54:34He is a wizard. Yeah, but you but I mean saying when you master something like that I'm not saying your marriage is gonna be great I'm saying when you master something like that. It's a it's a very good way to really get to know yourself Here's how great professional pool is right now. He doesn't even win most tournaments That's yep, is there a nationality he can't he can't accommodate uh No, Filipinos are among the highest level on earth wide, you know Well because the GIs went there in the 1950s and they brought pool and Filipinos Learned how to play pool in very tough conditions because it's very humid over there So humidity affects the tablecloth and the moisture in the tablecloth slows down the role of the balls And so you can take two approaches to that you could either Hit the balls hard which is like the American way to do it or the Filipinos learn to use the entire Weight of the queue and have an elegant almost like artistic way of playing they have the most beautiful strokes Yes, they have the most beautiful strokes Especially at the time so there's a guy who came over in the 1970s and his name was Efron Reyes And he came over under the the nom de plur Caesar Morales and he was this Filipino kid he was doing different Spanish name.

55:54Yeah, well He went from Filipino to Mexican Because everybody would have known him right if they had ever gone to the Philippines Because in the Philippines he was already robbing everybody and like a legitimate wizard a chest genius and Unbelievable widely considered if not the greatest of all time one of the You know, it's like MMA like is it could be visit mighty mouses and john Jones It's one of those deals one of the absolute greatest pool players of all time and then from Efron Reyes came all these other This Filipino invasion where they were just dominating pool like and big money like giant money games half a million dollar matches Yeah, yeah a ton of them and when you when you have a match how many games you playing it depends Some of these guys will play like a race to 120 whoever wins 120 games and they'll play it over three days And they'll do it for a hundred thousand dollars wait a race 120 games 120 games of nine ball That's a lot that's a lot, but that's a really gonna find out who's the better player So like if you and I played 10 games and maybe I'm a little better than you you could win those 10 games You could get on a roll you could get a lot of rolls of the balls where I get safe a few times or I scratch on the breaker couple of times And so that's two more games that you maybe wouldn't have won if we were playing you know even And you could win a race to 10 like the odds of me winning a race to 10 if we were both If I was just slightly better than you it'd be like, you know Maybe 60 40 or 55 45 something like that.

57:29Yeah, but when you get to a race to 120 then your odds Dwindle well, that's a better player always that begins a physical game. Yeah, now you're actually an athlete Yes, well sort of sort of it's a concentration for sure. Yeah, but your body can break down Your body can't break down those good the best guys are all fit. You never got really big fat. So no That can handle the what I love about the hustler one of the great greatest movies ever with Paul Newman is when Jackie Oh the fox's name Lisa Jackie Lee's and said It really came down the character He he washes hands washes face and drew a blank and came back and beat him That that was a really interesting lesson for me as a young man guys really do that too They clear their mind they go in the bathroom They throw cold water on their face they wash their hands.

58:16They change their clothes This needs something to break themselves out of it. It's a mental game like You know Jeremy Jones who's uh another all -time great won the US Open good friend of mine We're talking about it. He's like I think it's the most mental game in the world Because it's not just about thinking about what happens. It's about execution under pressure And then it's also about you're controlling the rotation of a ball Like you will if you hit it this hard it goes that far But it's not this hard it goes that far and that's what you want You want the difference you in an inch and an inch and a half.

58:48It's crazy everything at the highest level at the highest Is those micro adjustments there's a reason why magus Carlson wins all those chest tournaments right when they say when when Rafa Nadal is one of the greatest tennis players ever When he won Wimbleton they're all clap and he comes in and the legend goes I don't know if it's true But I heard it makes sense he he's coming in he's going like this. He goes I think my grip I think I want to he's not even paying attention He's talking to his coach. I feel like my grip should be just a little bit like that Or still making micro adjustments. You just want to have to yeah, that's what makes them so good in the first place I know guys who change their grip all the time and they're cute like sometimes they'll grab it like this with two fingers And then they change it and then they turn their wrist forward and they'll play for a year with their wrist forward Oh guys do I'm gonna shoot this special and I'm gonna throw it away and I gotta start again And just because I've done five specials doesn't mean it's gonna be easier It's gonna be a motherfucker because I've got to come up with I got to make sure I don't repeat myself I gotta make sure I'm not You got something to say you got something to say I can't get calcified month off of stand up after I did my special because I didn't have anything to say Yeah, I'm like I'd got drained doing that thing especially doing it live.

59:56Yes, it's so draining Um, and then I was like let me like think about what I want to talk about afterwards like and then do you have any ideas now? Yeah, yeah, I've got like 25 minutes now. Yeah, yeah, it's it's good stuff like it's fun I'm having a good time. Do you ever get tired of talking to do you ever get tired of doing this podcast even they have very interesting people No, I don't know Oddly enough at all the things in my life. This is the one thing that I I kind of net well first of all I choose who goes on it right so I'm always looking forward to talking to those people. Yeah, but uh I love talking to people man I I like it like that's like the whole like moody loner thing.

1:00:35I don't get it like people to me are awesome They're interesting. I like being inspired. I like being intrigued. I like trying to Problem solvers on this podcast. Oh, yeah, you know, oh, yeah Well, I've definitely gotten a unexpected education. Yeah, you know if you go back and listen to me in 2009 when I started this thing I was retarded we all were yeah, I think what is interesting is we would I have these opinions and I'd I'd state these truths And then like somebody would google it and be like hey, hey dude. No. Yeah, it's like I had this whole area Yeah, but the fucking typical Brian come I'm talking about cows grass fed all the shit.

1:01:10Uh -huh. Hey, hey man Never been on the farm. Okay, never never raised cows the farmer goes hey, I love your podcast Brian's wrong about everything's that but it's cool I fucking email the guy back, you know, I'm talking to him and he gave me an education He's like, I mean what you're saying is just not true when it comes to how you raise cows and there was a thousand things Of course, I had no idea that's the biggest liability I think in a lot of ways you know You should talk to you should have will Harris on your show who's that will Harris runs This amazing farm in Georgia where it started out as a industrial farm that his family owned and he converted it to regenerative agriculture over 20 years And it took him forever to do it.

1:01:52What's the name of the farm again, James? White oak pastures and then there's Joel Salatin who's a similar guy Oh, um, I think he was they were talking about him having something to do with farming in the Trump administration I don't know if that's come to pass Uh, but if it does, I really do hope that he'll be involved because he's another brilliant guy who um Runs a regenerative farm and farming is no joke and what they do is essentially their type of farming is recreating nature So they just contain nature instead of like having people, you know Shuttle all these cows into these stalls and put a fucking trough in front of them and like no these these animals Grace now in the field they just control where they go and they eat what they normally would eat and they make sure that they get plenty of new ground So they move them to new ground when they've used up all the grass They push them over there and then the chickens do the same thing They they have a chicken coop that's a mobile chicken coop.

1:02:48They push it out. They open it up They run around and then he's dealing with like hawks killing his chickens So he's got to come up with ways to that's like this is hawks. Yeah, this is like my catharine. You know, Mike great guy You know Mike catharine. He was on uh, uh, love line Oh, yes, yes, I know Mike and he lives in Austin. So he really caught what's his his name on the radius? Oh my catharine so Mike gets Mike comes down with his wife who's an actress and they're like I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna be an Austin in the outskirts and I'm gonna I want to live on a farm say he's a kid Yeah, he's a kid from from LA.

1:03:20He goes I get here and we got Guinea foul We got little sheep. We got you know rabbits. We got a And fucking the snakes are eating all my eggs The Guinea foul getting decimated by coyotes foxes wherever the fuck it lives out there. Yeah, I mean everything's dying coyotes Didn't what I'm just getting decimated by hawks coming in. I'll take that. I'll take your bunnies That's adorable. You think you can raise bunnies So they're just getting decimated. Guess what they did. What's the one change they made what they do? They got two Anatolian shepherds. Oh, yeah, and bro He said even the fucking snakes are on nose He's like those fucking dogs were just like the coyotes excuse me sir That's what they were bred for oh my god and then I'm not into our pets.

1:04:04No, those fucking things I'll just patrol your grounds and anything on four legs is gonna pay a very dear price good. Yeah, I want four of them Yeah, they don't fuck around. I'm gonna buy a ranch. Are you yeah really? Yeah Yeah Been talking about it for a while Just waiting for the maybe but at the very least we're gonna put the podcast on the ranch really yeah, because I want to have a ranch I also want to do a work a big piece of land in case things go sideways Where I can have like a whole community on a ranch. This is where I start my call I'm gonna have just let people build on the ranch like give them a few acres.

1:04:39I got some kids I want to come on that's what I'm saying like imagine if you have like a two thousand acre property And on that two thousand acre property. There's like a literal community of you and your friends. Yeah, you can go hunt on the land Yeah, that'll be there's water. There's a lake there. Come on. I'll wear a tweed jacket. I'll smoke cigars. I'm not gonna do any of the work But I'll see if I can do any of the work. Boy. There's no need for that. Go ahead and take care of that Hey, I think it's a crazy dream like it's a crazy idea to do But isn't everything a crazy like coming here is a crazy idea.

1:05:09Yeah building the mothership is a crazy idea But what if you had like a big pond with fish. Yeah, so you can fish You had land you can shoot your own Let me tell you about fresh water fish. Yeah, can eat a lot of them. Why because of poison. Oh really? Yeah, there's a lot of mercury and fresh water fish Really? Yeah, um, there was a dude who uh What did he win he won some big fishing Derby? He was a big time fisherman He started getting some weird neurological condition And uh it turned out it was because he was just eating fresh water fish all the time and some lakes So you got to think about rainfall like you remember we were a younger acid rain everybody's worried about I don't know what rain.

1:05:48I don't know what happened that I don't know went away But the thing about it is like pollutants in the air when the rain comes down it does bring all that shit into the water and then it stays in that water You know, so if you've got a lake in that lake it's drowned on with pollution rain You're gonna have a certain amount of toxic elements that are gonna be in that water Mercury is not good for you. I want you google how Much oh Jamie's already on it eating one fresh water fish equals a month of drinking forever chemicals water No more trout for me see that's the problem these forever chemicals PFAS found at high levels in freshwater fish with most concern for vulnerable communities So like this is a good point about the vulnerable communities because I was filming um a tv show once in Detroit and We were on the banks of this river that was fucking clearly polluted and there was all these really poor people Who were on the banks of that river that were fishing for food?

1:06:50Yeah, and what not just a few like quite a bunch of people that were trying to get their dinner on that river and you know people that really they needed that for food They looked real poor and you know There was a white black all kinds of different nationalities Asians and a lot of people and I was like whoa like Detroit is At least was in 2012 when I was filming this thing was fucking scary like yeah You when you realize how a city which was one of the richest cities in the country They're there by one of the richest cities in the world in the 1950s during the the peak of the automotive industry And then to see it just Decimated decimated and these people were just and I was like oh my god.

1:07:32They're gonna eat these fish And then I thought oh my god. They have to eat these fish. Well, that's the great migration right? So from the south the black the huge number of black people went up to Detroit looking for jobs Mm -hmm, and the problem was when they got to there first of all the auto industry started to get decimated because it started to move toward Japan and different countries But also in the in I can't see when the great migration was it was before that I feel like everything started fucking up in the 70s Well, they had jobs and there was a whole thriving community But what really would happen also is that the auto workers union I'm sorry, but it kept black people out of it.

1:08:05There's a lot of racism that went on So a lot of people couldn't find jobs the great migration for a large scale movement It was approximately six million African Americans from the rural south to urban areas in north and west Between roughly 1916 and 1970 Jim primarily, but the desire to escape racial violence pursue better economic opportunities and excess improved education in the north Escaping Jim Crow laws. Yeah, yeah, didn't work out. Well it did for a while and maybe in a way It did because they thrived in those areas where they probably wouldn't have well It's like the Puerto Rican Exodus from Puerto Rico to New York They went up there looking for manufacturing jobs then the manufacturing jobs coincided with moving south So you had this massive number of people who didn't have anywhere to go in the early 1900s many African Americans migrated north to work in the choice booming industries Yet they rarely saw the benefits many white neighbors actively denied African Americans access to decent living conditions and job opportunities Hmm, there it is Yeah, so you're a lot of darkness and all that stuff there is Yeah, but the city that's left over now, um, you know, you seen Roger me, right?

1:09:14Yeah, Michael Morris film which is Like I think is best one. He's like when he was pure. Yeah, you know, he wasn't like ideologically captured and editing things for effect Yeah, he was pure. That was a bummer. I saw that he started doing that. Yeah It is a problem Because then it makes you question everything else Well, the biggest thing that every mainstream publication Is in crisis and I think they've earned it they've deserved it the New York Times still makes money But primarily not because of their articles that people read it's primarily because they're crosswords they're their puzzles But you know, yeah, but when you take things out of context and you have journalists that are 26 years old and have an ideological bent Um, people just you know, the rest of us are going the news doesn't reflect the world I live in whatever the fuck you're saying I don't know who this is.

1:10:06I don't even I've never seen this. I live in a very different world and it's gonna be interesting to see I think there's a liability though where podcasts take the place of mainstream media in some ways because then You have somebody who's very good at talking for three hours And they they can really sway a lot of people, but that's one side of their story So now you have just that so you have to be careful because sometimes it could just move things over here where Again, the truth is somewhere in the middle a lot of times or it's more nuanced or there's just more to know It's definitely more nuanced nuanced.

1:10:38I think there's always going to be a real problem with people That don't really know what's going on say they know what's going on. Yes when they say they know what's going on It confuses everybody and fucks everything up and it's another version of gaslighting so CNN And you know MSNBC they gaslight you they gaslight you and they they they actively promote propaganda and narratives that are not objectively true and The problem on the other side is if you are in opposition of that and you say you know this and you know that but you really don't Like you got to be real clear with what you say They have people have to really be able to try like if you don't know you have to say oh, I didn't know that You have to say that yes, if you do not say that no one is going to listen to you anymore And they shouldn't right because the difference between someone who is completely independent and a podcaster And someone who's on CNN should be that no one is telling you what to do So what is your ethical compass?

1:11:43What's the evidence to right? What's the evidence? But also what's your ethical compass? Are you trying to win and be correct or are you trying to find out what's going on? Well, it's also about ratings Right, so you see and you got you got to yeah, but it's not because I don't think about ratings No, you don't I'm saying but that's why I have them. That's right. See, I'm saying like it's not about ratings Like ratings come if people believe you Like if you sit around thinking about the ratings do you think you would be on no No What do you mean you be on this show right now? Ashton Paul is like saying things Yeah, how'd that come across?

1:12:22Let me get it. Yeah, catch it. Oh you fucker Hey you my fucker you saying that Mark Zuckerberg and Mel Gibson get better better ratings and meetings Okay, Jolene. Yeah, you fucker. I like talking to everybody I don't I genuinely don't give a fuck like how the show's gonna do I don't think you can I think if you do that it'll distort what you do And I think we've all seen people who fall victim to what they call audience capture You know they start getting a crowd like you see with a lot of guys like online They start saying like a lot of wacky right wing things and I really yeah finally someone count the truth And then they become just like of a fucking My my my compass for that is this whenever I hear somebody say On a podcast or whatever when they say you guys all those people over there are wrong Um, I'm the one whistleblower.

1:13:14I figured out. I'm the one now you do have mavericks But I always am weary of when I hear somebody go all that the entire medical establishment is wrong And I'm right and I go I don't think so. I think it's way I just don't think you know enough I don't think you was one person I'm not gonna just put all my bags Um, there is something called a scientific consensus. Sometimes that could be a bullshit consensus We can be told we can be told the clients climate science. I'll agree. It's not true It's just how you get funding so sometimes the incentive structures are there in the same the medical stuff Correct.

1:13:48Let's just be a little bit. Yeah, let's be a little bit more. Yeah, you can't say you know things because I've heard people who are those kind of people say they know things about me Yeah, like oh, you know, you that you can't use your phone on his show I've heard people say that like confidently. Yeah, but the CIA is right. I think I say that he's handled by the CIA Listen, Mike Baker is my friend and I'm pretty sure he's still in the CIA I like him. I like him. I have him on because like here's a guy who is a CIA operative like let me ask this guy And I really do believe he's a patriot and I really do think he's a great guy And I think there's a lot of them and I don't believe cops are bad and I don't believe any of that bullshit I think there's bad people in every fucking business a lot of comedians that I think are rotten cunts.

1:14:34Yeah, I don't like them Yeah, you know, but it doesn't mean I hate comedians. I love comedians, right But there's some comedians that fucking suck and if you encounter those comedians and that's your only exposure to comedians You're gonna think oh my god. There's guys are all selfish assholes and narcissists and they rob people and yeah Just a few. Yeah, there's just a few of those. I also know some CIA people like real CIA people And you talk to them and it's like they're always like this. I was like dude I wish we were as competence people say. I mean if you were involved in having a for Just have eyebrows with them today.

1:15:06Love that guy. I love that too death and he's fine. I see you coming to my show. Yeah, I love him. Yeah I just said this during the day. He's that he that was his business for a while correct I know a bunch of those guys correct and you need You need um, you want to know how the real world works the real world works talk to Evan and a conversation with Evan and he's It's the same thing with I said oh my god. I went to his wedding and I loved everybody there because they were all his closest friends Evan was there on seven. I just that was the first time I met Evan and and I'm just talking to these tier one guys And they just seemed so intelligent and they were so and they were and John doubly was there and a lot of like great guys But I'm talking to some pretty cool people right who who have done a lot with their life and they were well -rounded and everything else And I said man, I just think it'd be so fun to be in that in a tier one unit because they're just also They're so smart and they're just they just to have such a wide breath of knowledge and he goes God you're so fucking wrong That's Andy.

1:16:04I mean he said best And he had one of the quickest paths of black belts. I think I've ever seen. Oh, is he a black belt now? Yeah, well he lives with a black belt instructor. That's the thing. Okay. When your wife is a black belt You better get your fucking peas and cues in order. Yeah, yeah And I think he's probably a quick study that dude is so fucking smart He's another guy who's very smart genius, but also Obsessive like he got obsessive with bow hunting became very proficient at bow hunting very quickly And then you know living with a black belt those what a huge advantage you can just drill with your wife So clt 6 guy so he's got some physicality in his hot, you know your wife's triangle strangle That's got to be like yeah, yeah, she's yeah, and she could probably kick his ass in the beginning Leah is built Like a true athlete.

1:16:48Oh, yeah, you cannot be light in the ass super smart too. Yeah, super smart Which like I think most black belts are I think it's just there's too many things you have to consider to get that good at your jitsu There's so there's infinite. Yeah, you could be a brute and just brute strength your way through a lot of it And you know be kind of halfway dumb and get to black belt maybe my only regret is not I'm not going down that rabbit hole. I'm I train now I wake up every morning going Yeah You don't train much anymore. No, I want you though. This is the thing. I'm trying to rehab my fucking knee My knee is the thing that's keeping me from doing it right now I twisted it when I was hunting this year.

1:17:29Yeah, pretty bad my joke is wall up The happening the other day I train at this this in in Nono's MMA who I love it down and up her mosa And I love doing it, but I of course I'm rolling with a 26 year old and I'm like let's go and of course I'm 57 I see his ankle don't give me your ankle, bro. I'm an ankle guy pick his ankle drive into the ground Walk and poke that ankle back. I'm back. I'm a rest high school. How tired do you do quick? I trouble looking left for 11 days All right, fucking worth it Yeah, well you got it when you're old you got a role in a different way You got a role like roll with John Jacques Machado, okay?

1:18:06John Jacques Machado who was you know mind structures since 1998 John Jacques is still rolling and still dominating black belts on the mat. Yeah when John Jacques rolls He never moves fast There's no fast. Yeah his knowledge is so wide his understanding of Gigi. He's talking to you Joe Joe and I'm about to pass your guard Like he's talking shit deals. I really want but it's smooth and slow and because of that he does not get hurt Yeah, you know, he's had a few injuries over the year But when it taught when you you deal with like high level black belts who roll on a consistent basis and John Jacques in his 50s now He is not hurt.

1:18:45He's still like looks fantastic He's like filled with energy trains all the time Yeah, it's not a train. I'll try and do that ape shit that you did when you were 23 like Fucking rest. I don't get I don't get hurt when I'm rolling with somebody's really good Yeah, fuck that yeah, you can't be that guy you got to leak you know You got to move slow yeah, slow and strong. I like to talk shit to guys who are way better that's what you got to be flexible That's the other thing you got to really work on your stretching and your flexibility You have to maintain your mobility I was watching Armand Sarukim whose fighting islam akachev for the lightweight title next weekend And he was doing this mobility and flexibility routine like this is insane He's so jacked and so mobile like more than I think anybody I've ever seen Well part of that also I think that one of the people don't talk about this I think the dog standing in the russians like the rob looking at those oh Jesus Christ That's the dude is fighting for the lightweight title and by the way they fought a few years back and it was God damn, dude.

1:19:49I thought I was I thought I was straight this whole time. Oh, damn That dude is a inflexion right there. That's a good looking man. I mean that's a strong man is what I meant good looking End strong. Yeah, I'm getting correct on both Jesus. What a monster. Yeah, homeboys Well, that the by the way his coach is a gold medalist. I think it's called coaches a gold medalist Olympic wrestler. Here's the thing about those guys I think one of their advantages that nobody talks about is that when you get a guy I could be you get these dagestanies you get these russians these these Armenians and stuff They've been training probably since they were six.

1:20:21Yeah, and and so what happens is your tendons and everything gets really really strong And also if you ever watch like Alexander Karelian the way they would warm up Oh, yeah, those guys that Karelian could do a backflip go splits and all that those guys the way they warm up was They was scientific. Yes, and and so because they knew that the micro damage that happens and so they would they would strengthen all the connective tissue first And I think a lot of times like guys like Marab guys like Neurma Umar Since they've been training so long their bodies are different. They feel different They are different.

1:20:57They're more rugged so they don't get injured. They don't deal with injuries Then one of the biggest things that is They all get injured they might get injured. I think they get injured less. They probably train. They train differently. You're definitely right that their bodies are stronger because they've been doing it since they were younger And that they get developed in that way. Yeah, but they're all the opposite is true With striking like not the opposite, but it's also true with striking that if you start striking when you're in your 30s You're never going to catch fully in the weather never you just you need that radar.

1:21:28Well, you need that your body needs to be sort of like Developed to strike. Yeah, but you also have to be like if you look at the the boxers like if you look fully in the weather His father and his uncle said to him like they knew they were like Boxing is just about as much about not getting hit Like you can be great and everything else if if your emphasis isn't on every time you throw you got to be in a position Where you're not going to get hit every time you step custom auto is that way too every time you you throw your step right and and that Huge part of that is it was all a foot game and all of that is if you haven't been trained properly As you're learning how to box you're going to get take a lot of damage And you're fucked you're fucked after a while and if you look at those really good coaches those old guys Eddie Fudge who taught Who would teach the jab your hand was here because instead of here you were you were taking shots You would be here.

1:22:19So if you watch him fight with Ken Norton when he fought Ali He said when you fight Ali Ali's here when he when he jabs he's doing this I want your hand here so you can see Norton catching Ali's jab and then boom answering back and catching Ali in the face Those little details make like literally all the difference in whether you box five more years or if you're done five years earlier Well the best examples Floyd right because he got hit less than anybody ever I can count them on my hand Yeah, if you want to say like who's the best boxer of all time I always say Floyd because He got hit less than anybody and that's the whole thing and by the way didn't have the kind of power that any of these other guys had Didn't have that like that Roy Jones younger who's a power puncher, but but he broke his hands a bunch of times That was part of the problem.

1:23:02Yeah, and but even then like he wasn't a robust guy, you know, so he's just I mean what's his name? Chavante Davis or anything right right? Well, that's a great example of a guy which is a preposterous power You know, it just preposterous power. Did you see Arthur better beave? Who is fighting to meet you be ball? Yes, he did a hammer workout on a tire where he hit a tire for an hour He did for an hour what he hit a tire for an hour with a sledge hammer Staggastani's are made of different fucking he's a church. He's a church, but same shit mountain hums out to my Savage people and he's the one of the scariest boxes of all time The only fight that he had as a professional that went the distances be ball.

1:23:44I know the only five Did you see when people would have 19 know it 19 knockouts? That's fucking insane when you have your hands up with him He'll still can cost you. Yeah, he hits that hard Just basic two like ones and twos maybe a hook once in a while There's a great video where this boxer who was you know world -class boxer who's a professional got brought in to box bitter beef And his coach said to him just do your best. He's like do my best Do my bill with the fuck are you talking do my bottom of fuck this dude up? And he goes and he hit me the first time he hit me It was like nothing I'd ever experienced in my life like it's almost like my body left me and I was like That's your job dude better be of is hitting people to like this.

1:24:27Yeah, it's all short Everything is short and it's just But he'll need your power that they'll hit your arms. Oh, yeah, he'll break your arms down and then by a show round five enjoy that shit Canelo does a lot of that he does a lot of that he smashes guys arms. I think the best box up with him Yeah, you don't want that guy punching your arms Well, I've always said that about look at look at his workouts with his wrists and fists. Yes, and this is his warmup Better be of as one of the craziest specimens because he's almost 40 years old too So he had this endurance fight with bevel so it's 12 rounds of super high pace Very endurance heavy and he was the one that was dominating at the the last round correct Correct That's February 22nd.

1:25:08I'm fucking pumped for that fight. You're gonna fight again. Oh, yeah, it's a rematch I'm very pumped for that fight because be balls so goddamn good too What he did to canelo like no one's ever done that canelo. I think the best fighter I think you can make an argument for certainly top three fighters of all time It's all gonna is is is oosik Yes, I think he's incredible incredible. I mean, I've watched every one of his fights that dude is on such a different level He's smaller than ever. He's fighting giants. It's fighting giants when you're fighting a guy who's 60 pounds heavier with 10 ounce 12 ounce gloves It makes such a world of difference Trying to when the guy is fucking Anthony Joshua You know, but please understand oosik fought it.

1:25:48I think 75 when he started out. He's not a big No, he's like to 25 to 30 as an heavyweight Not big not big and that's a lot of the other way that was Tyson's weight when he was in his prime too There's something to be said for that because a 220 pound man like Mike Tyson can knock out any human being that's ever lived The amount of power he can generate is insane So then you have the speed of being only 220 pounds instead of 290 You know or like remember when Andy Ruiz fought Joshua the second time and he got real fat Yeah, so sad yeah because like you had a real chance of like carving out a legacy the the knockout in the first fight was Fucking huge.

1:26:27Yeah, he has speed Oh my god This fucking boxing combinations are so fluid. He punches like a middle way. Yeah, and he's a bronze medalist I don't know I think he is I think he is I think he did metal box very very Scrailed boxer super nice guy too when he came on did the podcast after he beat Joshua He had a fucking diamond across the watch he came in or a rolls Royce He's like let's go. Let's go Andy. Let's go. I like it. We got to get you an accountant though Don't spend too much of an accountant and probably don't get to 280 pounds. Yeah The problem is then all the sudden you're a superstar and you're partying and you having survey Suz and hanging with the boys and I think there's also you've got to You've got to take the responsibility on of being a champion.

1:27:11It's hard to hold that It's one thing it's like starting a business you can get you can get people to know about your your business It's running a business is very different You've got getting the bell and staying staying champ maintaining champion I remember Matt Hughes when BJ Penn beat him. He told me he goes honestly Joe. It's a weight off my back Wow, I know like really And I was like it makes sense though because he was just smashing everybody and he was the person that everyone was chasing Yeah, it's like got a fucking way on your psyche. That's why John Jones to me. It's just what is this Jamie?

1:27:40He didn't win in the qualification tournaments for the Olympics. Oh, he didn't go to the Olympics. Okay. Okay Well, he did win a bunch of other stuff. He represented Mexico in the 2008 Beijing Olympic Games qualification tournaments losing to oh Cuba Cuba man you ever watch how that's trained Oh my god. The Cubans are amazing because they don't hit midts like you'll have a guy and they just move and move and move and move and and once and While the coastal lift out glove bought one shot, you know move and move and move and it's all from where it is It's all footwork. You throw one punch, you know They they like the Russians developed a very technical and Very technique oriented way of combat sports.

1:28:16It's why the Russians were so good at Olympics at wrestling rather Because they were so technical where the Americans would just try to work harder than everybody else. Yeah And the Russians like figured out like no, there's a time you work hard and there's a time you recover And you have to have active recovery and they got real scientific about their physical training real like Dan Gabel when he did the podcast is explaining to me how he learned Sauna from the Eastern block really yeah, really he's they started incorporating Sauna He's like this is another added element that raises your endurance Why because they would train hard and then after training you sit in that sauna for 20 minutes at 190 degrees man Your heart is hammering so you're getting static cardio Also, it has an EPO like effect where it's like a mild dose of EPO it raises your red blood cells really Yeah, my endurance is raised significantly when I started doing so what about cold punches?

1:29:08There's that's controversial still right? Well cold punches is not controversial in terms of the way it makes you feel Okay, so the psychological benefits of the increase in dopamine levels and norup and effort and that is a hundred percent I think that is one of the most powerful aspects of the cold plunge Also, what's been established is that when you do the cold plunge before exercise it raises testosterone So there's something about doing the cold plunge and then forcing your body to heat up Through a warm up and then going through your workout that raises testosterone for people And there was a study that was done where it showed this guy went from having an extremely low Testosterone level to having a testosterone level where his doctor thought he was juicing And all he changed was he started doing cold plunge before every workout Put your body under stress.

1:29:59It's not good after workout really no Because you want hypertrophy and you want muscles to grow and strengthen and part of that growth and strengthening is inflammation So that inflammation is actually good Heat on the other hand is good after workouts So it's good for the effect of it raises your red blood down Dan Gabel said he would do a sauna after working out because it raised his endurance Yes, it raises your endurance and the the eastern block athletes already knew that the fador was famous for using sauna Yeah, fador was used sauna and cold plunge so they use hot and cold therapy So um huberman recommends doing that once a week and what you do is you go back and forth and back and forth You always finish on cold though.

1:30:45Always allow your body to reheat itself up. Don't finish on sauna So you would do cold plunge or sauna cold plunge sauna cold plunge However many cycles you want to do it, but he said that raises your human growth hormone level the Swedes do that I did that fucking Sweden where I was with all these Vikings. It's fucking so funny Well, does finish studies on sauna are amazing what it's shown these are long term studies over 20 years It shows that people who took the sauna four days a week for 20 minutes at a time at 175 degrees had a 40 percent decrease in all Cause mortality Compared to their peers 40 percent decrease in all cause mortality hard attacks stroke cancer 40 percent decrease because the heat shock proteins the stress on your body It makes you more resilient and makes you more More vibrant you have more energy and you have less inflammation after it's over Your body produces those heat shock proteins you feel amazing when you get out you feel loose and relaxed You have a sauna here.

1:31:44I have a sauna everywhere. Yeah, I don't I don't fuck around dude I even have a portable sauna that I bring with me. It's like a blanket sauna. That's one of our sponsors What's that called? Oh hug you. What's that blanket song sponsor? sauna called Find that sucker. I have to pick it's really good. You got to pick one. Yeah, we'll be right now. We'll be right back We'll be right back. There's a scene in a book called blood meridian Where the guy chops a dude's head off with that fucking knife. Let me see that Boney knife. Who gave me this? Someone cool Don't fucking run it for everybody. I mean, that's a knife I don't know what you do with this if you were if you had to nothing good clear brush Yeah, nothing brush clear in knife son.

1:32:25What is this? It's a hacking knife. Yeah, who gave me that? It's when it's when you're you're coming in and you want to just clear it Clear house No, you're an asshole. You have a giant knife on your table. That's what it's for What's the knife for it just in case, bro? Oh, okay, when the president came they had to take those axes off the wall really yeah, one truck I mean, I'm gonna go crazy and grab one of those and pale them in the forest. What does the axes look like? They actually would work too. Oh those are real. Yeah, these are the jack car Tomahawks. They they look like you can throw them Well, I don't think you throw them.

1:32:59I think you're fucking sure. Yeah Wow, you know You heard me make me uncomfortable buddy. Yeah, I was gonna grab it by the blade like something aggressive about a knife That's very aggressive. This is a very aggressive. Yeah, that's a ridiculous knife. That's like little that's an overkill Do we know who gave to me? That's like somebody if somebody wears that on their belt. I'm like your dick is tiny That's incredible. Oh, you're a fucking complete psycho or you're like or you're living in downtown Los Angeles right now That's right. Yeah, that's what's gonna be really crazy Well, I want to see what happens because I think first of all rents are gonna go through the roof.

1:33:34This is gonna be crazy There is a major it's a major housing shortage. This is a major problem We're gonna live where all those people in the palace say it's gonna go there's thousands and thousands of houses I think people who own I'll tell you what's gonna happen I think I think people that own houses that are not in fire zones Even if they're small are gonna sell their houses for millions of dollars Because you got those very wealthy people going. I need a place Name a price and your house might be worth two million dollars. You're gonna sell for four Wow, I mean, that's what's gonna happen.

1:34:04I really don't get it even more fucked It's gonna be completely fucked and remember You know Los Angeles has been the worst at the worst at building affordable housing or just housing in general All the permitting you got to go through all the red tape. Yeah, they can't do it Um, there's there's so many issues. There's so many issues, but especially housing especially we have what is it? I think Pobbary rate in Los Angeles is like second and none the schools are terrible The homeless situation is I think the second but hey, it's sunny. Yeah, some people are really pretty. Yeah Yeah, there's a lot of tiktok stars there's a lot of tiktok stars and that's that's good for our culture That's good for our culture.

1:34:44What was the name of that sauna blanket again? Spell it Bond charts, right? Yeah, it's a blanket Yeah, you could carry it with you when you go on vacation and sauna the shit out of yourself anywhere you go Yeah, yeah, I'm not doing that but I appreciate it It's I live by sauna man if I had to choose between one thing that I live in a day did Yeah, if I had to take cold plunge or sauna, I would take sauna all day I think cold plunge is very important and it's really good for just my mental state I just like that I forced myself to get in there. I like it. I win every day. I win Well, I said to you when you signed that deal I go you I said this people about you You've not changed even a little bit well if anything you've calmed down you have peace of mind But you've not changed as like in terms of like yeah, you become a very powerful influential person But I've never I haven't seen you change.

1:35:39I haven't seen you like it hasn't gone to your head I said why and you go I think it's because I do something really difficult every day and it just reminds me of what a bitch I am Yeah, I brought myself down every day. I think that's important I think it's everything because I think mental health is attached to that I think too many people have Too much anxiety and too much like Success can do that. Yeah, well the pressure and also I don't read comments, which is huge You know because a lot of people out there reading comments and there's one comment I was talking to the zuck about that. Yes, they're like you guys stop reading comments.

1:36:11Yeah, Thomas stop Yeah, it's so bad for you comments. It's so bad for you. I've never read one five you especially good ones I don't want to hear because it's gonna have power over me. I don't want to do it in the back I appreciate them. I appreciate people even the bad comments. I get it look You know, uh, if I was 15 I would be the worst fucking poster on Twitter all the time I'd be a total troll I'd be on four Chan I'd be on all those things. I'd be talking mad shit all day longs Yeah, you know, I kid Mattam, Matton He says that kid is this really kid who's like 17 years old and a complete troll.

1:36:46I did his podcast It was so fun But he's just like that those kids at that age they are about just there's no reverence to anything No, they want to tear it all down. They want to tear it all down Also, it's all about making them a living getting eyeballs on you. Yeah, right? That's what they're their businesses eyeballs So if they can slap someone at a supermarket or you know, fucking scare someone in line at the grocery store or whatever They do to get attention. Yeah, that's their currency their currency's attention Yeah, and if you beat their ass, it's actually good for them That's right. There's no there's no way which is really crazy.

1:37:18Yeah, it's just a different Yeah, I mean different time it's the end of room It's the end of room. It's the collapse of of of a really sick civilization and you know the thing that you're seeing like with this whole like Woke fire department which is We're talking about that lady saying if your husband's in that burning building like that they want someone who looks like me Like like looks like them like that's not what they want. This is but this this is all like this ideological bizarre Cult that these people have fallen into that leads to the collapse of great civilizations because the people that worked hard to make this like very easy life Those people don't get respected and then the people that you think are the marginalized people that should be elevated through equity These people that haven't done anything now you're giving them all the power.

1:38:13Yeah, and you're also Letting them be the bullies of the bullies now, right? So they got picked on their whole life now there We're we're kicking ass now. We get things done I'm a pride magazine in the whatever website. I'll send you this because it's real See like see if you could find that Jamie so I don't have to look for it but the uh the the headline Said the LBGT fire chief is showing that she can get things done really Yeah, this is in the middle of the biggest disaster in the history of law saying But saying that she can get it done shows she can get it done like what does get it done?

1:38:55Yeah, what does that mean? Yeah, run out of water collapse society. What does it mean? I don't know if that the blame lays in the fire department by the way here I think you watch I'm gonna make a prediction. I'm basically it's already happening I promise you that the progressive government in Los Angeles and in Sacramento is going to blame Not infrastructure, not government incompetence, not mismanagement, but climate change I promise well good luck with that yeah, it's amid palisades fire Los Angeles first LBGTQ plus fire chief is proving lesbians get it done Yeah, excuse me lesbians get it done.

1:39:34Not she gets it done. I it's even dumber than I thought let she's proving lesbians The real proclivity is really what makes it so what does that mean like Elon Musk is proving heterosexuals build rockets Is that what that means it's just identity politics? It's nonsense It's nonsense people writing nonsense things. It's so fucking it's placing a group above an individual right? So yeah, that person like the individual. I don't give a shit that she's into women I don't care at all if she's competent. She's competent. I'll fucking vote for her all day I don't know if she is I don't know enough about her you can't call it climate change because LA's been like that forever The reason why they filmed an LA in the fucking first place is because LA doesn't have rain.

1:40:14That's right That's why they started putting the Hollywood down there until what happened it got too expensive to do business Got too expensive to shoot in LA. Yeah, taxes and everything else. It got too expensive It is too expensive to open Restaurants or anything else in LA. So you've got this great this great sandwich chain. I'm obsessed with called snarfs Right I like just like there that I think they have one in all yeah you brought them here I love we mean you think you have they brought them yeah, I brought them here. Yeah, I love they're great I love the sandwiches dude and and You know that company is so good that I literally was I want to get involved in the franchise business because I think it's it's It's their crushing and I and they will not open in and Los Angeles.

1:40:56It's too expensive. There are too many A friend of mine who you bought you and I both know has businesses in Texas and businesses in Los Angeles and a lot of them Okay, I'll tell you who it is later. Oh, I love a suspense So in his California businesses He's been sued over one thousand times. I think it's one thousand and two times one thousand and two times in The 18 years he's been in business In Texas he's been sued once once and in that case they were right to sue them because they did something wrong and it's pretty interesting because there's a Literally a difference in culture. There's a difference in the notion of I'm responsible for my actions Somebody else is responsible for the state.

1:41:38I'm in and that is a That is a mine virus that has taken over Los Angeles taken over California in my opinion a lot of this is just mindset And I think it's very ironic it would all do respect because I have a lot of friends who lost houses in the palisades area and everything else but and I and I If you had walked through the palisades you would have seen a lot most of them voted for Karen bass I'm not saying Karen bass deserves all this blame But I'm saying there was a lot of Kamala stuff there the very very little trouble stuff And it's ironic to me because I do think to an extent without having done enough research But I've done some that you have to lace at least some of the blame for this total inability to respond for two government mismanagement and the fact that this government this progressive government In California in Sacramento in Los Angeles put things like um Climate change and social justice ahead of fucking basic infrastructure Basic infrastructure you knew that they were predicting and they knew how how dry this season was fucking eight months without rain Okay guys, so we need to figure out there is a way to solve every problem You got to if you do you need a farm you know they cut they cut 17 % I know the cut 17 % 17 .6 million dollars from the fire budget in Los Angeles wasn't it 17 % or was it 17 .6 million dollars?

1:43:05That's what I read see if that's true. I thought it was percent but maybe I think it's 17 .6 maybe that's what it turned out million I don't know what that means I know what that means it might be they have a hundred million dollar budget And they cut it down to seven either way obviously 800 million dollars or something yeah, that's the whole budget. Yeah, it's a lot So they only cut 17 million out of 800 But still why would you cut anything out of one of the most important things? Obviously now you know Now you know that was a huge mistake. Well now you know you should have increased the budget Well to your to your point This was a perfect storm to an extent and there's there's a limit to what any fire department can do There's a limit right we live in Los Angeles fires or reality earthquakes or reality mudslides or reality We know this it's a it's a California's the tough place to live that's great, but there are a lot of liabilities I just think if you know that that's the case Something went wrong and our infrastructure I the fact that our fire hydrants and it happened in Colorado three years ago But the fact of the fire hydrants lost pressure You can predict these things right well again I bring it back to trump because trump was saying that this all could be solved and he was right What he was saying is true and that they are doing it to protect a fucking smelt But it exists it delta smelt they exist other places.

1:44:20I love the delta smelt. I don't what does that think? Let me see what a delta shell looks like I don't give a fuck about those things either do I um Yeah, 17 million last year she directed more for 2023 24 fiscal year Los Angeles allocated 837 million to Los Angeles fire department Accounting for roughly 65 % of the 1 .3 billion dollar budget designated for homelessness initiatives Which didn't work what 65 % for homelessness initiatives didn't work Roughly half the budget for homelessness went unspent these mother And let me say something else about that Mother the homeless thing too you talked to you talked to progressive about the homeless thing You know what they'll say it's a housing shortage.

1:45:00Oh, no, it's not it's a drug and mental health problem housing housing housing Yeah, sorry housing housing now and we can't fix it. It's a mental health and drama. So it's been 24 billion dollars last year 24 billion homeless Yeah, that's what it is. It's a bunch of people making money off of profits of course. Yeah And so there's there's a vested interest in keeping homeless a problem Yeah, the real problem is that there's homeless at all like how is that possible in the greatest society the world's ever known But because we've put very little effort in the stopping it very little effort into education and fixing people's mental health problems and Mental health institutions for people that are sick and twisted and Real solutions like iBagane real things that they can do to sort of reset people's minds and help them get out of it Real programs to help people integrate back into society.

1:45:53I know guy who's a meaningful guy who was dealing with real demons and he did one session of iBagane And it changed everything. Yeah, well, there's a lot of people like that. I had the former governor of Texas Rick Perry on And he was explaining it and that's surprising that Rick Perry who's you know, Texas conservative. Yep. Yeah It was very reluctant and then he knew someone who came back from the war and was suffering and you know He got involved and that's it. No, it's a great Repairs the neural pathways Yeah, it helps people with Parkinson's disease. Yeah, crazy completely rewires the brain of addicted people damn stops the pathways Gives you an insight as to why you're addicted in the first place like what little weird Fucking patterns you have in your head.

1:46:38What are you what are you escaping when you're trying to like load up on heroin? It's crazy, but it's illegal With this is the the nuttiest part of it and this is the beautiful thing about what Rick Perry is trying to do and Explain and get very eloquently that it was all established in the 1970s To combat Richard Nixon's political opponents. So the anti -war movement the civil rights movement They made all those drugs illegal the sweeping act of 1970 the psychedelic drug act Where they were just trying to demonize these things that these people were using that was like you know The flower child movement the hippies the anti -war people they're like we need to figure out what to lock these mother fuckers up Well, they did a really interesting study on or there was a guy journalist I came where it was talking about They they drew this comparison when the 60s Music Movement happened with Hendrix and all this guys when they were taking psychedelics incredible things were going on musically Oh, yeah once they turned to cocaine and heroin You know the 80s fucking died here by Yeah, well, I was bringing it back to cars, you know because I'm a car freak The cars of the 1960s were the greatest fucking cars America has ever created in terms of the way they looked Yeah, the iconic view the the image of those things and it all died around 70 71 Everything after 71s pieces.

1:48:00Why except a few corvettes look cool But because they they needed to become first of all then there's the gas crisis So cars started becoming less powerful and more economical and then they started making them out of plastic and they just look like shit And then they weren't doing the drugs anymore so they were the design sucked if you go back to design like One of the classics that I was put out like let's look at a 1969 boss Mustang So this is Bring that up acid marijuana whatever these people that were designing these cars were like freaks They were weirdos. Yeah, you know because they were artists and they designed these things It just to this day you look at him you go fuck Fuck look at that.

1:48:43Yeah, look at that That's the that's the reason why John Wick killed everybody That's it is they stole his car They killed his puppy and they stole that car and John Wick killed everybody That is a fucking work of art Whiplash fucking engine crud God damn that's a work of art. That's safe One of the most beautiful things human beings that fuck the sistine chapel That's one of the most beautiful things human beings have ever created Look at that god damn it. Is that a catalytic converter or a carburetor? Shut your mouth about that. This is Texas pull all that stuff off and fucking roll Roll cold right on my highway.

1:49:19It gets like a block of gallon Yeah, my um wow my raptor my hennessey raptor that has a thousand horsepower. I get nine miles to the gallon Sock my dick. It's looking at that thing. That is a different one. That's a That's a oh yeah, that's a classic restaurant. There's nothing for classic recreations does a Arresto mod version of it But that's the like the right from the factory version. Both of them are gorgeous. They come in electric They do make them an electric honestly. Yeah, there's a company that takes old cars in That's that good. Well a lot of people have a problem with it. They're do ever.

1:49:54Rody does it. I like the I like the old awesome. I like the old awesome. Martin's those are gorgeous. Yeah, those are incredible. I've ever rody. Everbody's a company that takes old porches And they do old mustangs and they convert them and make them fully electric Wow. Yeah, and but they look really cool, but You're missing the whole point of course. The whole point is it's not a feel of road. It's a work of art It's a mechanical experience. I drove a 1985 Porsche Targa. Oh Dude, oh my god. It's a pure a stick shift. Oh, yeah, what a beautiful car. You just feel everything but god damn It's beautiful.

1:50:26I mean just zipping it. You know, it's so light too. Oh, so engaging. That's a great car. Oh my god Those are the best that's the only time I've written a car and I went I get it like I've never been in cars I tried a Tesla Three with white interior white exterior. I wanted a gaze. I wanted to be as gaze I could it's still an incredible car Would it car? Um So let's go to the 19 Porsche 911 964 signature So look at that. So they take this 964 Porsche, which is one of the most beautiful years And they turned it into this insane electric beast Damn. Yeah, incredible car man. I mean sub zero Zero to 60 sub four seconds.

1:51:11I drove two hundred miles. I think it looks too. I drove a new electric Porsche But look at the range up to 200 miles. I thought fuck up. Yeah, that range is nonsense That's not two hundred miles as well driving really slow But I bet that thing is super sick to drive and god damn it looks beautiful But wouldn't it be better if it went When you started up I think you should be You want to hear that you want to hear that yeah, you want to feel the engagement of the clutch You want to pull the gear lever down in a second You want to let off the clutch and hit the gas. You like the way that looks I like what they're doing.

1:51:49I think it's cool. Whatever. I'd rather I take that car and I got it I got it and put a fucking real engine in it looks beautiful, but what can I pick one of those up for like a regular car when I 964 you there's a bunch of different companies. There's a company called Not electric. No, no, no regular one. There's a company that specializes in air cooled porches Go to Sloan what's air? Sloan that's those the old ones the ones that you drove the one that 1980s one. That's a that's an air cooled one The old ones are the ones that yeah, that's it. So this place specializes in Portia's but particularly air cooled porches.

1:52:28They've got a lot of air cool go click on like available cars So inventory go to inventory That's nice too. So a lot of these are the expensive more modern ones like the 1963 like click on that one 911 Carrera look at that 26 ,000 original miles. That's a gorgeous. Oh, dude. That's a joy to drive. Yeah, it's beautiful. That car is a joy to drive Look how cute. Oh, it's got to be very expensive because that with such low miles That things probably meticulously maintain it looks incredible say gee now picking that thing. I'm no no that's an expensive car And by the way, not very fast It's not fast.

1:53:06That's not you're missing the point. It's the handling. It's the it's the feel It's the experience of driving it is so analog it probably doesn't even have power steering Oh, it's brand new. Oh, it's basically brand new whoever So you think that that is amazing they they probably sell that for a couple hundred thousand dollars. A couple hundred Yeah, at least okay, I would imagine I mean it says contact us for pricing But if you want to get one like that in a stellar model with 20s look if you get a 911 from 1970 Like a 911 RS a good example is a million dollars. What? Yes. Oh, geez. Go Google 911 1971 911 RS Immaculate for sale I guarantee you they're over a million dollars.

1:53:57Yeah Because they're just your your model three will blow that thing away in every way shape of course handling speed Especially if you have the model three performance. That's why I like my car so much. I like the test They just go so easy They make every other car seems stupid. I know But it's a different experience than driving that thing that thing is an amusement park ride. Yeah, like that thing is a It's like grinding your own coffee something about it like there's a manual Sensation is a tactile yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, lighting your own fire on the grill. Yeah, cooking over hardwood cold I think there's a huge value that like cooking.

1:54:33Oh, yeah, like the the the the fact that it takes You take time yeah to get good at something like cooking the perfect beef stew or Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, especially if you're cooking over fire. It brings you this caveman DNA smell of your brain. Oh, yeah, yeah Conveillance the food tastes better convenience and abundance comes with a price like everything else Sometimes that's a lack of connection. Sometimes just the the actual process of doing shit like the actual process of Preparation all that is a form of flow that you get into yeah, there's a great book called Beyond Board of Mingsiety by Shixson Miha I don't know what the fuck his name is he's like this Sungaring science he compares the flow state the rock climbers surgeons Painters and conductors get into and and it's all very similar because it takes incredible Constraction when you're rock climbing the rock climbers look at the painters like bitch you are not in the same flow state Dream of the fucker.

1:55:32It's very just no, they're not because it's life and death right Cool site that shows the average sales like it's a stock almost So five have been sold for an average of 700 8000 oh my god in that crazy My lord that's crazy 2 .5 million for that one click on that can you click on that so I gotta see a couple more tickets stand Let me see what it looks like there it is. Let's see if we could find it God by the way Um, it's a lot of that is like a a dick measuring contest like that. I have a pristine model But just like a Jerry Seinfeld type vehicle like he would he would own one of those yeah I have a R .S.

1:56:14America. It's a 964. I know you've seen it that little red Porsche that I have yeah, no manuals or no power steering No air conditioning no nothing it doesn't have a radio it's not a jack It's so raw. It's so raw. It's it's it's raw and rowdy. It sounds loud. You feel everything every time I drive it I'm like why don't I drive do you know what I hate to have that that fronco? Yeah 1971 with a 350 Windsor whatever the fuck was I don't know any carburetor I Have been chained by house and that dude. I would get dizzy on the highway I'm gonna cast fucking the gas. I didn't have no top dude. I thought I was gonna pass out I went to the mechanic.

1:56:53I think I'm gonna pass out. I was all panics This is the way it is like what do you mean? It's the way it is you're dying slowly, but you're living more I think for 500 bucks or so. I don't know. I was like get away from me. I was so happy when you bought it I like when you get irrational I want you to be more irrational. I think it's good for you. I was that with the dogs too. Yeah. Oh, is it a fighting dog? Really fresh out of the box? Yeah, let's get it I think that a little bit of irrationality for comedians is very good for you 100 % I think it's pretty irrational So you gotta have a little bit of fun in you.

1:57:21There's a fun auction coming up in a month. Oh, yeah, these are for sale I'm coming from Paris. Oh that alpha Romeo that little thing like there that little alpha Romeo I guarantee that's fun as fuck to drive too Look shitty, but I'm telling you you feel every fucking bump on the road through your ass. Yeah, I never got into those 356 porches. Yeah, I think those look like a fucking VW bug They look stupid. Yeah, but that right to the right of it the 92 RS That's what I have. Yeah, I have one of those with a ductile ever read over the ductile. I love it I love it. You know what it is? They're they have a personality There's something about getting into my I had a girlfriend who had a vintage Mercedes and I swear to God I got attached that car it felt like an experience.

1:58:10I was getting there and I I had a personality almost it was like 100 % you know what I mean? Because somebody had made that somebody had taken the time a lot of us just made by hand I think well They're definitely put together by hand. Yeah. Yeah. I mean especially back then But considered by craftsmen Something's really considered by craftsmen and and you can't you cannot replace the feel of like something That's been crafted. I don't know red one that 1970 look at that son. Oh my goodness. That's a beautiful piece of machinery It's an expression of gorgeous that is such a gorgeous car. Yeah, that is fucking beautiful That's your opinion brother and it's so light Those cars are so light dude.

1:58:53That's like a two thousand pound car really? Yeah, they're so little Yeah, when you're near them, they're so little you know how much my three ways almost six thousand pounds. Oh, they're very Yeah, they fuck up those Borders those tank what are they what are they called the the rails guard rails they go right through those things Because they're too heavy My car meant for regular size cars. I don't know how gorgeous that is look at that damn thing man. Oh, it's so beautiful Oh, that guy's that guy maintained that motherfucker That guy knows how to drive I bet look at that steering wheel I picture myself 2003 restoration in a tweed car.

1:59:31Oh, it's so gorgeous. I bet that's a hundred fifty thousand How much is that? Yeah, it's gonna be auctioned For a hundred eighty euros 180 years so more so 180 euros is like 200 and something thousand which makes sense It's fucking beautiful man, and they don't make him anymore You know if you want one of those and when you drive it I guarantee you have a fucking smile You'll have a fucking smile on your face. It only has a hundred eighty horsepower. Jesus. Yeah, they're not fast Even minus 300 mine only has three hours and I had it juiced up a little bit to get to 300 Yeah, it's not fast. It's not fast.

2:00:06No fast. No, but it doesn't matter. It's just fun It's engaging you used to like big trucks too though. You like the denolies and stuff. Oh, yeah Well, I have the Raptor as a Hennessy Raptor. I still have you know why I like to see what's going on over there I don't want to be at the same height as the cars with someone's hands on the brake. You can't see what's going on Well up here you can see someone doing something stupid like five cars ahead. Yeah, oh Jesus and you it's safer way safe To be in a lifted truck is safer you see things more 100 % that is very important. Yeah, it's very important Like you the elevated viewpoint for a safety perspective is important right?

2:00:43Yeah, and you get used to that you like it a lot I know that's the kind of car you take out on a countryside like oh, yeah, man You were a scarf Gloves and you were the glasses I want to be in your opinion so badly sometimes And you're in your mate is doing this you're going too fast. Yeah, yeah, you don't go with the girl go by yourself I'm by yourself. Yeah, you don't go with it really. You don't want to hear that Shut the fuck up about a truck shut the fuck up. That's different. That's different. That's how they're cars in the other cars That's preposterous That's a four million dollar car.

2:01:18Yeah, that's a Pagani Well, I mean even how to say that how do you say that it looks like a fuck it looks like an old man That's a monstrous vehicle. Yeah, but it's also ridiculous I mean does it come with a man or a spower here's the thing that's all great That's all fast But that can't fuck with a new Corvette. Yes, a track car for sure It's a track car, but it's not even as good as a track car as a new Corvette the new Corvette ZR1 is one of the greatest cars the world has ever built is over a thousand horsepower a Thousand over a thousand horsepower for the new Corvette ZR1 It does zero to 60 and under three seconds.

2:01:55It's gonna break all the records It's probably gonna break nerve -wracking records. It hasn't even been released yet. It's a fucking amazing car It's the greatest American car in because it's just reliability everything or what everything they're reliable They're fucking incredible looking they look like an exotic car. This is the new ZR1. Does it have volume? Can we hear what it sounds like? Hi, I'm Brad fronston Chevrolet marketing. It's Brad you fucking knocked it out of the park Brad This is an amazing vehicle. This this vehicle's faster handles better than that stupid fucking five billion dollar car That thing's this shit.

2:02:33That's America fuck. Yeah in a car. Yeah, I mean, it's so stupid How could you go to a dealership look at that carbon fiber wheels? How can you go to a dealership and buy a 1100 horsepower car? Look at with a giant green on the back of it It shouldn't be but it is and that's why it's a miracle Mother fucker and is that thing is that drag to rotate? Is that a fan that was on there? Necessary yes, yes, because you want to do an asshole. That looks great. Yeah, you can get it without the fence Cuz you want to look like that. Yeah, that looks good. It's downforce. It gives you more downforce So it'll Top end speed so the high end speed will be like 205 miles an hour instead of two 15 or whatever the fuck.

2:03:14I like that That's a good look right? It's a gorgeous car stupid that is a fucking beautiful machine There's the fin come up or something or well no, it's just down for it's adjustable But it's downforce for the track. Yeah, I like that is an amazing car for the track That's a good looking car and they make them in a convertible. Check the convertible They're not they probably they won't break your bank probably right or they very excited It's about 200 grand before you know mark up and all that other jazz. I think it's one seven two point three seconds zero to 60 What nine second quarter mile right from the factory?

2:03:46Mother fucker a nine that's what you need as we need count It's very special kicks it and you start selling out giant theaters Let's go baby. Let's get a little Oh That's right away from looters once I start selling Theater tickets. Yeah, what you get the fuck out of Los Angeles. I know I gotta do that you've been telling me that a long time Listen, this might be the one I talked about it is Hey, but I have my other kids so I got my I have two families you know, I'm into it too. I know They come out here. They'll they'll realize like oh my god. What what the fuck were we doing? What we do? Why what One of my friends came here like me traveling from Texas is way easier than traveling from fucking Los Angeles That Ron White told me that in 2018 when I started thinking about Austin.

2:04:30Jesus. He moved here before any of us Ron White was the original Yeah, he was original the the Texas set up because he was he's from Texas He was off -looking love Austin foods great people are nice He's in the middle of the country you could travel anywhere. I was like wow. Can I leave in Texas? I started thinking about like can I learn Texas and then when Covid hit Ron being here was one of the things that moved me here really Yeah, so I love Ron at least I can hang out with Ron He's you want to hear one of the greatest comics period? I watched that motherfucker and I'm like and he's still doing it at his age Killin it.

2:05:02Hold is he he's a thousand years old. Yeah, and he's better now than ever. I'm better than ever I love and he's at the club every night. He's there all the time all the time killing it killing it And just the best fucking human being he's just the best guy So when he was coming here in 2018 I was like maybe I could go I don't I can't live in because I had no way's been trying to escape LA forever But then it's like my business was there the comedians were there and the store was there And there was like so many things there it took something like Covid to make us all like just take this crazy chance and Move to Texas.

2:05:35Yeah, well these fires. I feel like these fires are kind of almost like very much like the same thing It's the same kind of experience You're gonna have one too. Yeah, let's go back Helen Men smoking to guys like men. I like this new This thing having a guy like Ron here though was like okay well wrong at least I'll have Ron as a friend At least it'll be and then Tony moved here. I was like oh shit Tony's here And then I remember one time I talked to Sigura and I was like dude. It's fucking awesome I love it here. It's like fucking I'm moving And he was he was here quick. Yeah. Oh, you just here you use this one Because you just do it.

2:06:16I'm an idiot. I'm like I can't do I can't figure shit out How can you can't figure things out cuz I'm bad with that stuff. Okay. That's why my wife was like get out of here You can't do it. I'll take care of it Like raise my kids save them tell my story. I'll be in Austin. Sorry about the fires Tell them to watch your special Tell all the kids in school to watch daddy special that watch they watch daddy special It's gonna be good false gods. I'm excited You tube. Yeah, I think so right? YouTube's the move because you get the most views for sure like look at Shane I'm proud to give a great that's awesome.

2:06:50You get a great set You put a great set and the club is the best place to film the audiences are so high That's what I thought I was like I'm gonna I would rather like shoot here, you know and Cuz you did that club right man. You did that club right since makes such a difference Yeah Well a lot of it's cuz we're on it wasn't for Ron and then one time when we did shows We're doing shows at the Vulcan and Ron hadn't gone stage like eight months and he got off stage He grabbed me by the shoulders. It was whatever the fuck we got to do. We're gonna keep doing this He goes you got to open up that club.

2:07:27I was like, okay, I got open up because I was like I got to open up a club You know it's one of those things like I'm so fucking busy. How am I gonna do this? How am I gonna handle this? How am I gonna handle the stress of the business and a hundred employees and Turns out you don't have to just get really good people to run it for you That's it. I get a kick out of you cuz I don't know You still have like for this podcast what three people that work for you? I mean for you know more than that Well, yeah, we have a brand in our video editor. We have a Matt who books everything young Jamie And why?

2:08:03Yeah, that's it my buddy is they're gonna start a podcast and well We got to get a production team got to get this and I'm like, hey, well You're gonna need a production team if you don't have Jamie the thing is Jamie's a wizard and he's also a little bit on the spectrum and Jamie can the good side you're on the good side you're on the fun side You're like totally socially aware you're fun to hang with StoEx he's like a stoic, but Jamie's just on the ball and like his ability to pull things up while we're talking about him While he's managing the the podcast like no one could do that you need like a team of people to do what he does But then you've got to deal with a team of people that are just like one of the coolest things about Jamie is how like first of all We're friends and he's the easiest to hang out with like Jamie's so easy to hang out with so doesn't matter Who's in this room?

2:08:50There's no weirdness or like all this guy is complaining about that guy He's not trying to be he's not trying to be anything. He's not so what happens in that position is that that's kind of a big job Right and it'd be very easy to go I'm part of this podcast. I'm a huge part He doesn't get his ego that's happening if you friends them on where they had to get rid of their producer because their producer was like You know we did this and he's like hey, hey, you pointed cameras at a comedian that was already famous like cut the shit Like this is fucking stupid. We all have our role. We all do our thing to stoke it It's like what happens with a lot of these people is they develop these podcasts and then they have I go to my friends podcast And he has ten people working for them and I was like what are all these people doing what do they do?

2:09:34What are they doing? This is crazy like why you have all these people and then they have interns? I do you have people working you're making millions of dollars and they're working for free Like I don't agree with interns. Yeah, I would never have an intern if I had an in -person I would pay them Yeah, 100 % I don't even know if you're allowed to pay certain interns because they're supposed to get like I'd break the law Break the law. I don't pay them. Just be a paid intern. It's fine. Can you have a paid intern in the college? Yeah, I think what happens is it builds resentment if you're not 100 % you gotta be careful Well, that's a problem with rich people when they have assistance to yeah like Al Magical had an assistant once He was like yeah, I gotta get an assistant.

2:10:10I go no you don't I go listen to me do less shit Just do less shit. Have you you need an assistant? You don't do less things Yeah, you don't like I remember when David Spade an assistant the dude tried to duct tape him and the guy He tasered him was gonna kill him. Yeah guy went to jail Henry the ace said something like that also every time I promote somebody I create every time I promote somebody I create eight enemies and one in great something like that. I think that was that cool. It's great Yeah, but didn't he kill a bunch of his wives? It was terrible That's the great story is the Bees of shit.

2:10:45You know what he did right? He said the Catholic Church he wanted a son and his wife was barren and he he He wanted an heir and the Catholic Church would not codify his divorce so he was like okay, I'm gonna start the Anglican Church Fuck off. I'm gonna start my own church and it's gonna okay. It's gonna be okay with divorce So he created the Anglican Church and the great story of a man for all seasons Thomas or Thomas more was Thomas more Would not join the Anglican Church and they killed him for it and he said I am more than my appetite I am more than you know my body. I am my principles and my principles are higher and I'm gonna stick to the Catholic Church Kind of like you know, I wish I was as well.

2:11:24No shit right? I'm gonna like yo to just join out of the church. Well, we all would right? Get a lot of shit done I was an acting class as you remember remember that and one of a kind of a famous actor. He did the scene This is so great. He did the man man for all seasons and as he you know, so you do a scene and You know a lot of working actors in the class. This is Los Angeles and we all sit back and now the great teacher Well now break it apart and he the actor began to weep And this is why he crying he says because I'm not this man I would have joined the Anglican Church and it bothers me that I'm not the kind of principled man that would stick to Lucy knows that was pretty cool.

2:12:07Lucy's not that guy. I wish I was a Navy seal. I'd kill everybody Yeah, he was one of my favorite actors too and I was like there you go at least you know you're fucking limitations Yeah, never say what you do in an emergency because you know, I'm also probably wise a great actor Because he was aware Of everything of like the differences between him and those other people, you know Well, you better know your vulnerable like you walk around like a tough guy right that the real tough guys are the guys that have done a lot of shit Or who's seen a lot of combat or at least been involved and like Evan Hayford for example has probably done a lot more than he never talks about any of it You'll never hear anything say anything, but and for that matter Andy Stump same way they really tell you anything but They're very aware the first of all it's very easy to be killed very easy.

2:12:50I don't care how strong you are when you bench a tiny child can kill you with a gun right away So you you get a real sense part of what's really good about just doing combat sports or doing any kind of Like even a rough sport contact sport is it it comes you come in a contact with objective reality It's very hard to start living this fake existence and part of the problem I think with our society is a lot of people controlling the narrative don't really Pay a price for being wrong because they live a life and they live a job where they're working Where they're working with their mouth they're working with only their brain and I think you get a lot from actually Trying to grow your own food or doing whatever it is, you know, you've got to kind of come in you own a farm and you realize that life Feets life and things everything nature mother nature is a mother fucker and wants to kill everything you try to grow It gives you a very different perspective on reality and what the world is about oh for sure Yeah, well, that's a giant problem with urban environments.

2:13:47That's why urban environments all get to these sort of esoteric philosophical ideas about what society would be like because they're completely Separated from the circle of life. Yeah, they're buying all their food from either a restaurant or a grocery store They're they're not farming. They're not doing anything. They're enjoying meat without any death Right, you ever see Stephen Pinkers book the blank slate. Yes, you know that the when The anthropologist came by their name they they I think they were at Harvard and they came back from studying the Yanomami Indians or whatever in the Amazon Basin They were like hey guys I know you think just white Anglo -Saxons are aggressive and we have a culture that rewards male aggression Those people have never been in contact with anybody white or Western and the guys that get laid the most of the guys that killed The most people in combat and have their hair on their daggers So they have their version of a fucking all -star quarterback too and he gets all the pussy And they were like what the fuck and they literally Attack their their reputations and everything they drove them out of academia.

2:14:49It's crazy It's like that was truth. It should be obvious. It should be obvious like that This is there's like been a series of events that human beings have gone through that have developed this Certain people like we we understand it's an understanding that certain people are better at survival Certain people are better at being the leader certain people are better at war Yeah, and life takes a certain amount of aggression and competitive spirit. Oh, yeah You're gonna fucking get eaten. Oh, yeah, yeah, you're gonna get fucked That's right Full of shoes. So don't you it's great. I love that we're all it's all utopian Until your kids don't have enough to eat and then I'm gonna kill that's what happens people are really Combai -ah until your kids Have to struggle for resources and then they become genocidal Jared Diamond who wrote guns germs and steel did the study with the fucking people up in that guinea highlands The minute the minute they they started running out of resources They would they would start coming up with stories about the other tribe over there that were basically yeah They eat their own kids.

2:15:54Yeah, they're fucking really evil just just a whip up just to justify what they're about to do that They're tribe because they got their stuff. Yeah human beings. I mean this beautiful things in urban environments The society where you don't have to struggle. Yeah, you don't have to do that so you can you can get much more involved in art You get more quiet answers a lot of things that people can achieve when they have that sort of shelter But there's a balance to be achieved you know in our society the influence and the problem is the influence of these people that are Detached in urban environments is so significant because there's so many of them there's so many more people that are detached than are connected But we have this like very weird Like appreciation and understanding of resources and of like just how hard it is to just survive without modern Conveniences I I had a I think what changed me a lot was when I was younger I I Was accidentally around some pretty rough people some criminals the people that were bad violent or you know and I think I remember a Cohen I remember it's very scary when you're around people that are You know like that and I Never forgot it because I was pretty naive as most of us are coming up because I'd been around a good family and stuff like that and I saw how ugly and dangerous Some men can be especially when nobody's looking and It I never forgot the idea especially in the areas that you grew up.

2:17:28That's right. I mean well I lived in remember also I was in the war in 11 on right so I think I think you I Was I left in I was I left Lebanon when I was I went to I was I was 11 years old Yeah, so just imagine experiencing that as a ten -year -old boy Yeah, and then I went back remember I went back when I was I think 15 16 and I didn't recognize anything from my childhood So I was in Lebanon for five years and so I had wonderful memories and then the war broke out and we were stuck My father couldn't get back in because he he he could he was and then we got evacuated But I was living in the in the holiday in for six months and we had to sleep on the floor and then finally we had to we had to go down into the Fucking underground parking lot because they were bombing and you would wake up and you would hear machine guns and stuff So you felt very out of sorts and very very it was very scary, you know You're a kid, you know, and I remember seeing on a balcony I remember seeing planes bomb a gas station.

2:18:27I never forgot it I never forgot seeing the planes come in and the the missiles dropped and just you know and and the sound dude The sound and I don't know if anybody anybody's been in war knows this but I was on the beach. I was on coral beach And it probably was it was in the 80s. I was a young young I was 14 15 16 whatever I was They shot a rocket over our head Okay, and I think it was a test fire dude when I tell you that the sound was so loud that we all fell on the ground I fell down on the sand the sound was so disoriented that that you everybody went down on their hands and knees That's how a lot of was over your head and I think that that that when you are in that kind of proximity to Violence like that and then later on with I was older I was around some some people who are pretty rough, you know And for me, I always I knew that if the grid broke down That those people were gonna take over and there was gonna be no fucking mercy and I've never forgot that and so you could see with COVID the minute That you know law enforcement had to restrict their resources you saw what happened Looting you saw crime you saw homelessness and the fabric of a society can break down so fucking quickly People don't realize it until you've been in countries where it's happened and until you've been around men who Negotiate the world in a violent way and maybe in in ways that are a little bit outside the law You don't know what you're doing man.

2:19:56You got no idea so all those people And I love when the left starts talking about you know violent revolution and you're in college kid You have no fucking idea. You don't know you're asking and don't wake up to conservative Don't do that. Let's not even talk about it because I know a lot of guys that shoot real straight You know and often and yeah and often and they're very comfortable and they're comfortable in those violent spaces kind of ready They're they're yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's not let's not let's not let those dogs slip. Have you seen John McVee? Yeah, I have the mayor of Baghdad Is a guy.

2:20:35Yeah, just you know his body just comes from enforcement. Yeah, he traps He just looks like a giant block. Yeah, he's a he's a born enforcer. Yeah, he's not gonna win a Nobel Prize for peace No, you ever hear Tim Kennedy talked about him. Yeah, you put him in a glass case and break in case a war. Yeah, yeah Let's keep those guys. Uh -huh. Let's keep that over here on that guy got that guy found your jitsu too and that's why I'm an outlet Yes, and please understand the base of our Republic also is that we have civilian control of a military And that was a huge what in the election between I think Madison and Jefferson the idea was was it Madison or was it Adams I can't remember but in the The election was should we have a standing army because traditionally in a republic if you had a standing army a Very charismatic general like Napoleon would take over the army and take over the country So that was a huge thing James Madison was a genius at figuring out how to how to limit that and he said checks and balances But you have to have civilian government in control of the military because military people are right with military solutions Yeah, fucking really important man really important.

2:21:41You don't want to fuck don't let guys like John McVee you need him in war Right God bless, but that's just you know, well you've had Eric Prince on your podcast, right? Very smart guy. Have you had him on no? Haven't man. I really enjoyed having was another guy who's talking about like what to do with Africa and it's like Jesus Well, yeah, yeah, he used the word viceroy and he did it on purpose. It's like He he but but but Eric comes from a position of how to solve problems. Yeah when he was talking about the We're talking about Gaza. He said we have the ability to frack what that means is we can drill sideways He said you could have filled those tunnels with sea water instead of bombing the shit out of you know 70 % of it and killing all those people you could have flooded those fuckers out because you you you you drill And I don't know if this is true.

2:22:28I don't know anything about fracking But he does and he said you could have drilled fucking this way Fill take the Mediterranean Fill all those tunnels with sea water and they would have had to come up and you would have been just fine and just position people You know when they come out of the water. Why didn't they choose that? A good question the same reason that in Afghanistan they had an oil they had an oil reserve there in Afghanistan That was well -capped by the Soviets well -capped We could have taken that cap off and that oil that enough oil to not only fuel the entire country But the whole war effort right there for about nine cents a gallon But instead we would get our oil from Saudi Arabia etc and have to ship it through Pakistan With all the roadblocks.

2:23:17It was about 900 bucks a gallon or some crazy shit. He was not my thing talk He says he presented a plan to do it. It says block by the panic. Let's um hear this. Put your hands on a smart dude provided that Israeli is a fully funded donated Ability to flood Gaza with water with sea water to flood the 300 miles of tunnels blocked by the Pentagon our stuff isn't working that well in Ukraine The navy has been ineffective in Yemen US has given very bad advice very mixed advice in Gaza preventing the Israelis from finishing it or even preventing from Ending that war in a clever way Yeah, he's very smart and and and Eric is uh, he's a problem solver You can say whatever you want about him, but I I really enjoy He's he's a very smart guy and I know people that work with him and for him and well the shit goes down You need people like that you need people that know how to solve problems.

2:24:13Yeah. Yeah, yeah But also you know you can't have some Overweight lesbian that says that if you're trapped in the building You already made a mistake you already fucked up you need me to carry you. Is that really what she said You want to hear it? Yeah, I do let me hear it Jamie you could probably find it right just so you can outrage me I certainly have it in here I know uh, I can find it if you just give me a moment It's just it's so ridiculous you hear say like what are you even saying here to the found it It's not AI right no no no Here Jamie say I shit's getting crazy. I had to call you and ask you I know I called you I was like this is really hard to tell here headphones on again because you're gonna have to hear it because it's so crazy It's so ridiculous I Asked your emergency whether it's a medical call or a fire call that looks like you it gives that person a little bit more ease Knowing that somebody might understand their situation better is she strong enough to do this or you couldn't carry my husband out of a fire Which my response is he got himself in the wrong place if I have to carry him out of a fire Oh wow, oh that's helpful.

2:25:36That is such a crazy way to look at things The correct answer is no I cannot but I can do other things right Yeah, and we are gonna need people that can carry people out of buildings because that is a part of the job Yeah, it's not he got himself in there. I just say lives yeah, but again, this is Justice justice Ideology representation Ideology over effectiveness. Ideology over utility one of things we saw during the 2024 election is massive chunks of California turn red That had never been read before and I suspect that that trend will continue and be even further and flip the top I think you can do people you know, they're not stupid Americans They they reach their boring point.

2:26:19Yeah, I think we're gonna get to a point where they wake up and you're gonna have to have someone come in and clean up the mess I think the greatest someone's gonna have to be like socially liberal But physically conservative and pragmatic and realistic, but they're they're gonna have to like Be a person like you or I who like supports gay rights sports women's rights sports equal rights like of course, but also The thing is don't hire people that aren't qualified for a job because you don't want to hire white people That's crazy hire everybody that's qualified and then make everybody else more qualified go to the make everybody rate Rise to the same less my sports are great right figure out a way to fix all your fucking urban problems If you have 24 billion dollars every year just for homelessness Imagine what that could have been done to clean up communities Exactly because you haven't done a goddamn thing about homelessness and all those people should be held accountable Well, that's because they again, they're framing the problem wrong if you talk to those people You talk to the people in charge of homelessness a lot of time.

2:27:21I'm not saying a lot of them are look a lot of them are good people And a lot of them are smart and they know a lot more about it than I do so I don't like being the guy who's talking about like I But I'm just saying I like to be fair. I want to be fair But I think when you're framing it just as a housing problem It's a lot of problems a fucking life. It's it's a bunch of people profiting I mean coldly on the war when he was on the podcast explain that to me for the first time He said when he was in San Francisco He said what is going on like do they just need more money? He's like no you don't understand it's the opposite It's like there's a business now in keeping homelessness there Because there's people that are making quarter quarter billion dollars a year and they're they're just working on the homeless problem And they're failing we got 31 ,000 new homeless people this year.

2:28:01It's just failure and you know California was always including under Democratic governors california was always known as a as a place That was run very very well with really responsible civic employees for a long time under reared and and that and stuff And then it just well it's collapsing under the weight of its own bullshit. Oh, did I say so so I had I had I was with Arnold Schwarzenegger and I asked him what was the light to be governor? And one of the things that I got was that how little power he he was not able to get a lot of things done But I'll give you a classic example he said and I'm sorry about parapherry somebody said something he said There was a water issue and he said these farmers over here are not using all that water So here's ready here's what you do just take the water they're not using and give it to this this Part of the state over here.

2:28:48Let's not be people just pipe it over here and his senators said Mr. Governor I can't do that He said why he goes because now you're asking me to go and ask my constituents To give up some of their water they're going to use that against me in my next election So he goes so so Schwarzenegger goes see then what the fuck are we gonna do? And he goes here's what you're gonna do you're gonna make a speech and you're gonna say exactly what you just said to us And we're gonna say yes But then we're not gonna really let it happen And he goes that's how this works he goes hey you're learning baby That's fucking California state well that is where Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy come in Department of government efficiency maybe For sure maybe I don't know what they're gonna be able to get done.

2:29:34Let me give you an example. So Pete Hegseth seems like a great guy. I'm a fan. I don't know much about him But I like that kind of seems like kind of guy like dang out of have a beer with sure he's very smart Princeton I think Harvard Like Braun star row four books awesome I'm sure he'll be a very effective secretary of defense however that job this this the DOT I think has um A million point one employees and a budget of $750 billion maybe $850 billion now just that is a massive massive company essentially and that requires Management on a different level that skill set is very specific and very very difficult and very strange It doesn't mean that because you are a great soldier you can necessarily do that and I'm saying I'm not I'm just using it as an example So we have to get down to brass tax and take politics out of this and get real fucking practical with all this stuff I think with Elon Musk and with Vivek Ramaswamy The US government is a very complicated organism and massive and does a lot of shit none of us even know about You know, I always use this as an example who the fuck keeps geese out of the airfields the Department of Agriculture Who keeps who who keeps falcons on hand at most airports?

2:30:54Perigment falcons, you know who does the Department of Agriculture? You know why because they're territorial birds they keep all the other birds out of the airfield You're not to do that because I don't who gets sheep to graze at a higher altitude because of global warming And they they don't want to graze when it's really hot I don't know but we have to do that if you want mutton and fucking wool And there are signs that to figure that out they're not political There's a thousand things who manages all that nuclear waste in the ground and make sure it doesn't get into the Columbia river And the waterways who manages their electric grid This is all kind who keeps track please I'd like to know of all the spent uranium rods sir That are used in all our diagnostic machines because if you detonate one of those motherfuckers over the Super Bowl You have to clear out that city for 20 years the Department of Energy is the answer.

2:31:39That's a bootage He's doing a great job That's a neat no transportation transportation. It was the guy who stole women's clothes Hmm. Yeah, he's the nuclear secretary. Yeah, he was responsible for that That's like a guy. That's a they piece of shit. Don't misgender. That's the most important thing That fucking misgender that thief Jesus Christ. You understand what I'm saying. Yes, so it's always beyond complicated Yeah unbelievably complicated And so Michael Lewis wrote a book called the fifth risk about this a good book short very worth reading very fucking worth reading I walk around talking about being a libertarian as usual I don't really know what government does it I was so kind of humbled by the book because I was like there's a lot of shit.

2:32:21I rely on The people who are needy people who are very elderly people who are disabled who live in places where they can't get food Our food banks feed those people meals on wheels is a really big thing So there's a lot of shit that the government does and we feed a lot of people that couldn't feed themselves otherwise So we have to be careful about not throwing the baby out with the bath water and once again take politics out of it Let's approach everything like it's a problem and stay agnostic about this shit And sometimes you might have to be a little left sometimes you might have to be a little right respond to the fucking evidence and And and be humble about the fact that every time you step into a problem You may not know anything and that's what I try to do Brian Callum for governor fucking Why didn't you write I hope you guys wrote that shit down?

2:33:02Where's my camera? You don't need to write it down bro You just set it from the heart fuck yeah, dude. Yeah, bro fucking hilarious. Yeah, why don't you be a governor my buddy my buddy last time I did my pockets my buddy Age he goes like this he goes from toehold. He goes hey, dude Love your Rogan podcast next time you're on the biggest podcast in the world make sure you talk about the fucking bible some more Haha Man, it's interesting. Yeah, I'm into that. I had that Wesley Huff guy on you guys yeah, he was really interesting Then one of the most fascinating things that I can't stop thinking about is how the book of Isaiah From the Dead Sea Scrolls was verbatim the same as the book of Isaiah that they found a thousand years later A thousand years and it was exact word for word yeah like that's incredible It's not only incredible, but I always think the fact that the bible and jurors Is interesting right it's very interesting it in jurors it I always go back to like what were they trying to do what was it really all about Where did it start yeah, I have an opinion tell me I think that if you read the Old Testament which I've done three times um The the I would argue that so what what's a theme of a of any anybody any or any author writes a book the theme is always the audience The authors argument for how one should behave in the world, okay?

2:34:21It's a good way of looking at it And I think that the central theme of the bible of the Old Testament certainly is don't worship false gods So what's that mean if you try to worship false gods if you if you if you put too much emphasis on money on status on power Whatever it is on ideology You you will you will inevitably turn yourself into a circle you'll be a snake eating its own tail For for whatever reason human beings have a very hard time Inventing and creating their own gods and we always do it What what what there is what the value of having a transcendent truth of something that you can't measure It's very interesting that you can't measure it that you even win So so with why do the Muslims why do the the orthodox Jews not have any kind of like picture of God It's because you're putting a measurement around God you're trying to define God and that's not for you to do And there's something very valuable and I'm about not being able to do that because that transcendent truth is not for you to understand necessarily It is for you to reach for it is for you to be reverent of it's for you to understand that something is watching you that you will never get away with anything And and I'll quote Jordan Peterson.

2:35:30I love it because I've always thought this I think you agree with this you don't get away with anything and you'll pay in full for everything you've done and haven't done It's a great way of looking at things maybe it's wrong, but it's a good way to at least it's it's keep that in mind I think you pay psychologically no matter what 100 % when you're not telling the people right and the people that don't Those are the people that are the most Delusional and the most disconnected because they put blinders on as to who they are and what they've done Let me see this when people get caught for horrible crimes and they you know they can't like Bernie made -off type people Like they've diluted themselves to a point where they've they don't look at their complete sociopaths The which is a weird Path that the mind can go into where you're never wrong and it's always about you Well also like I always people talk about God.

2:36:20I kind of like replacing it with truth So just try to stay close to the truth man and it's hard. It's not as true. There's really fucking inconvenient It's really it's really it'll it might throw your whole life up in in the air You might have to burn off, you know, but but I don't think I think it's inevitable and and part of like if you if you see great stories You know, what's the definition of a tragedy? It's the the hero or the protagonist doesn't learn from his mistakes and and and and holds on The moby dick is a tragedy because a hab will not give up on this fucking white well that took his leg and if you read the book He just gets sucked in you think it'd be some dramatic thing in the book a hab gets caught By the whale and just he just he just dies this quick Is this soundless he just gets sucked in like wait dude He's been in the book the whole time with the fuck happened but that's how it happens, bro You got sucked down and the universe doesn't give a fuck you're not important You spent all that time trying to get revensions on a white whale and that thing was like he was just trying to run away No, no, you get sucked in and you drown It's a great way of looking at life and and I as I get older the one thing I would have told myself when I was younger One thing I would have told myself is I would have said hey listen listen fuck face You better tell the truth all the way all the way across the board all the way across let me tell you something yeah, you and the lesson You're so fucking right You know what I always said to myself.

2:37:47I'm one of God's favorites. These things don't apply to me I'm being well. You're also you're charming. You know what charming is a problem kind of way with a lot. Yeah, charm and You're fun to be around people like to you're fun a lot of friends. Yeah a lot of friends Found my way through and also we'd like that you were ridiculous. We like you're living your life completely chaotic reckless. Yeah It's part but it's also why you're funny like that. That's the balancing act It is as a comic as a human. Yeah, I didn't want to be too I didn't want to be the people I knew got real famous actors They were so buttoned down.

2:38:19They were so fucking afraid of everything and I was like hey bro I think sometimes you got to be willing to throw the whole fucking chessboard in the air You know, it's like my favorite. If you want to be funny. Yeah, yeah If you if you become too calculated Man, I just think you outthink yourself You lose the magic The the part of the magic of being a comedian is these sparks of ridiculousness that have to pop into your head So you have to be able to entertain that part of your mind. I used to think when I was young that I didn't want to meditate Because I didn't want to become enlightened because it would fuck up my comedy.

2:38:55It's true Well, I thought that way because I realized that there was a completely different mindset between me as a martial arts competitor And me as a comedian where I didn't need anybody's approval before like I I like that They didn't like me. I used to love going to places and fucking up the local hero. I just enjoy it Yeah, just get a kick out of it all because I didn't have anybody in my core. I never cheering for me Nobody came to see me fight. So I was like I'll go to your place and fuck you up. I liked it Yeah, I liked it You're lying on the shelf There was one There was a fight that I had when I was 19 and I fought in anaheim at the the nationals and there's this guy was the state champion I think it was from Illinois and I hit him with a wheel kick There was probably the hardest I've ever hit anybody in my life Well, he went unconscious and he never woke up.

2:39:43They took him to the hospital They took him out on a stretcher. It's scared the shit out of me Because I remember thinking that easily could have been me. Yeah, that easily could have been me But what I do remember was all these people were cheering them. Let's call Johnny come on Johnny. Fuck him up Johnny All these people are trying to whack silence Vase plant and then snoring Jesus Christ and then I remember the satisfaction of that like shot of it feels like nothing on your foot It's going to hurt. I was limping really really. Oh, yeah You're here. I hit him in the with that with my heel in his cheek Christ on his cheekbone Yeah, and I was I was But the back then when I was 19 I was fast so it happened in a breeze a quick moment And then I remember thinking afterwards or he when he's getting up He's not getting it.

2:40:37He didn't get up and then they they carried him away in the stretcher and they took him to the hospital And I never felt the same way about fighting again after that. Yeah, because I could have been you Yeah, I also thought about like If that was me would I even be the same person again after that because I had a friend who fought in this tournament He fought this guy Jersey long who was this Canadian national champion and he got ax kicked in the head Hard and he went unconscious and real bad and he was never the same guy again. He was timid after that He never fought well. Yeah, he was he didn't show up for training a lot He was just well, he just like seemed depressed That's why I think fighters who can who have longevity are very special because One of the things you know if you like just box or type one no especially people Realize that people get would get knocked out all the time in in our studio But but also boxing like when you get hit hard and you have trouble chewing for like two weeks Or you get hit like like when I was sparring a lot I would get hit man And I would get fucking gunshot and my my trainer Wayne McCulloch would go you're sparring today And it was everything I could do not to turn my car around it would almost turn me into a liar I was like I have to I'm in the hospital Oh my car just got hit by a truck anything, but I would you'd get there and you'd have your fucking Your man.

2:41:55I would wear a barks. I'm a bitch and a mouthpiece and I was still always nervous And I got us from fighting good guys fighting guys like me fucking weekend warrior. It doesn't matter The person trying to hit you in the face is scary. You know what I think you know what I think meditation does I think I think the point is and I don't meditate on is to get out of your own to get out of the way To get out of the way like a lot of life. Yeah, you Disappear. Yeah, I heard a sports psychologist say that he teaches baseball players He would teach them he would do this mantra, which was one two get out of the way So when you're trying to hit a box, it's really precise and you can't be overthinking You've got to just be totally reactive right your your your eye and your hands have to be married and Did motherfuckers are throwing a hundred mile an hour balls and shit like yeah, and You ever do you ever done that you ever stood in at a plate and had guys throw a hundred miles now?

2:42:46No, I have I have been saying Fucking terrifying these ideas. I'm hitting that thing dude. It's terrifying. Yeah, and and but I wanted to try it I want to see what it was like and When you when your job depends on it when when everything rides on it You better get out of your own way and guys get the yips That's why guys will go on hitting streaks and then they'll go on long dry spells To get their own way But I think part of like all of that meditation Jamie pull up the uh fucking Indian army. Did you see this they were hiking? No in the Himalayas and they came across a Bodhisattva or one uh, you know a monk who was meditating in the snow and it was 40 below Uh, this is recently.

2:43:32Yes, sir. You might want to bring this up so I can just You know what uh custom mono used to tell Mike Tyson. Mm -hmm. You don't exist just the task the task exists. I love that Yeah, you don't exist. He's become a bit of a monk Yeah, they found this guy. That's what brothers say aye Yeah, that's it. That's an agreeing screen. This is two or three years old shut up. It's fake Yeah, that's bad. Look at that dude. I bet that dude's boring as fuck to talk to him Look at him sitting there with a dog Oh Well, oh He looks legit. Yeah, they find these guys out there. Yeah, he looks legit. They find these guys Yeah, I like to see Carries and he's not moving and the Indian army is having fun.

2:44:22Yeah, what's the temperature? Dogs have fun too though Yeah, but that's what I think that dogs amazing. That's in Utah. We're like that dogs amazing You think that's a new talk come on man. That's real. That's some guy and a lot of drugs that guy is no man He's uh, he did the DMT breathing. Well, you know those dudes in in every their shantarom You know these guys who take a vow to never sit down they stand up. Oh, you've seen their legs in India. No Oh, bro, they're the they're the standing they're the standing yogis how bad are their knees? No, they get very close veins Their bodies their their feet start to melt like they they but they smoke Copious amounts of weed.

2:44:54I mean they're Oh, they tie constantly. Yeah, but they take a vow never ever ever Sit they are standing their whole life so they sleep standing up in slings. Oh, that's what they're close me. Yeah, it doesn't it looks like You can you can look that up Just to fuck you up somewhere. Give me a standing yoghurt just show me all the positions with fucking What is it how would you describe it as standing yogis? Yeah, they're like the standing the famous standing yogis or something they're called where from maybe India India I think in Calcutta Yeah, yeah, sometimes the fairies only a nickel You know you don't have to stand all day.

2:45:36You fucking idiot. Yeah, have a seat smoke cigar exactly. Please relax a little bit The end of the day they're trying to get laid. I don't know what they're trying to do They're definitely not trying to get laid right because they don't do it I think a lot of people are dealing with trauma. I think a lot of times You're gonna be smung sir trying or do something crazy, right sometimes. Yeah, you know I don't think you become a monk or a shaman Joseph Campbell did a whole thing every shaman he studied he was a an expert at comparing western and eastern traditions And he said every shaman Ever had gone through some kind of a mental breakdown usually in their teens And they came out of it because they had a society of village that helped them through it that that sort of like understood that it was it was a schizophrenic break But they were going through something and there was something on the other side of that so they they wouldn't medicate them Standing Bob uh, yeah, this is what is it standing what standing Bob us standing Bob us?

2:46:32Yeah, what are the other guys foot go back to that other image that you have before It's not a good. It's not what did you have before? Yeah, that's a wonderful. Oh, that's different. Oh, that's Chinese ladies. Oh, look That is the most disgusting thing the Chinese foot binding like Jesus My own eyes and in 1984 in China. I went to this is how this guy stands Yeah, just propped up all of them. That dude looks like he has one leg They left his arm in the air too. Oh Jesus look at his arm. Yeah forever. He keeps his arm up 1973 Oh my god. He hasn't brought it down since 1973. Yeah, he says a devotion to Lord Shiva.

2:47:08Maybe Lord Shiva like Your ass. Yeah, I gave you to arm. You can't use the same arm to feed yourself and wipe your ass You're gonna have to wipe your ass. That's crazy Look at his arm. I bet I could arm wrestle a shit out of that dude. I bet everything I have I got that's not the point man Everything I have dude. Let's go. You know he's into arm wrestling now Brian Shaw. Oh god. Yeah, that's a problem He's been training hard for that's a real problem. Yeah, look at that dude. Just high out of his mind. I take Brian fucking white power What does he do? That's it. No, so that's black power black power.

2:47:47That's why why power is the hand? It's all about the handle if you extend your fingers. It's so white power is basically a bitch. So black Pro white black power will fuck you up correct. Why power is this yeah? Yeah, yeah, that's not And Hitler did this Yeah, everybody else did this he did this funny like when CNN was attacking me One of the photos that they would use all the time was me at the UFC waving to the crowd like this ladies gentleman Welcome to guys. They would use me standing like this. This one Is like partly Justin Baldoni thing. Yeah, when you see what the New York Times did to Baldoni where they took every one of those things out of context And Baldoni was like really how about I see you for 250 million dollars Yeah, and he's got fucking 90 pages of receipts.

2:48:31It's gonna be very interesting. Yeah, very interesting It's it's interesting how the mainstream media just continues To go down this road of discrediting themselves Yeah, I don't understand it. It's well It's the rise of independent journalism because there are the Michael Schellenberger's the Matt TIEB's there There are the very wise very wise people in the world Glenn Greenwald there's these people that you could trust that are gonna tell you the fucking truth no matter what The marketplace the marketplace will find people that you you can rely on yes to actually is long as this freedom of speech As long as you don't have censorship.

2:49:05That's Elon Musk. Yeah, that's Elon Musk YouTube and and now Facebook they're all coming around well That was one of the things is up or Zuckerberg came on yesterday to talk about they've changed their content policy They don't longer have fact checkers and now they're gonna rely on community notes. What is that? I don't understand that. Well, these have fact checkers. Yeah, like someone would say something and someone say that's not true The vaccine's nothing but amazing and they they'll take off Posts to what are community notes community notes is what ex uses so like say if you post something It's not true the community notes underneath it would you could write community notes?

2:49:38Okay, so the community notes would be everybody would poke posted to it This is not true and it would come to a consensus the the fact state that this that Bup bup bup bup bup bup it's amazing. It's the best way to do it because Eventually the truth comes out. Yeah, the truth comes out Brian Count I love you to death. You're the fucking man. I'm so happy that you're filming at the club. It's gonna be fucking awesome Thank you. Are you filming tomorrow night? Tomorrow night tonight. I'm doing two shows just to warm up. You have on stop and buy which I'm excited So tomorrow night seven and ten seven and ten tomorrow night beautiful.

2:50:08So that already all shows of course She's exciting. Of course. Yeah, so excited. I'm pumped for people to see your set too. Thank you It's gonna be very perfect. I'm proud of it. I love you man. Thank you very much. You're doing this. Bye everybody You