#2270 - Bridget Phetasy

10 Feb 2025 · 2 h 56 min

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Episode #2270 - Bridget Phetasy

Guest

Bridget Phetasy

  • Writer and stand-up comedian.
  • Host of "Dumpster Fire" and the podcast "Walk-Ins Welcome."

Key Topics Discussed

Success and Gratitude

  • Chasing Success: Discussed the tendency of people to chase more success continually and the importance of understanding why one is doing what they are doing to avoid burnout.
  • Addiction to Numbers: Bridget mentions her addiction to analytics and the importance of remembering that numbers represent people.
  • Gratitude: Highlighted as a mechanism for shifting perspective and combating feelings of inadequacy, anxiety, and depression.

Wealth and Happiness

  • Perception of Wealth: Bridget shares anecdotes about wealthy individuals who still feel poor, exploring the idea that happiness isn't necessarily tied to wealth.
  • Essentials for Happiness: Emphasized the importance of health, friendships, and genuine relationships over wealth for happiness.

Comedic Environment

  • Comedians and Camaraderie: Discussed the importance of having real interactions and friendships in the comedy world to keep grounded and avoid ego inflation.

Personalities in Broadcasting

  • Mental Health in Broadcasting: Discussed how many people in the broadcasting industry might be mentally ill and how the public persona can differ from private reality.

Government and Society

  • Government Spending: Talked about perceived misappropriation of taxpayer dollars by the government and the importance of auditing budgets.
  • Cultural and Political Dynamics: The conversation included thoughts on political shifts, societal changes, and the influences of media and technology.

Technology and AI

  • AI Influencers: Discussed the rise of AI influencers and the concept of reality becoming increasingly blurred with technology advancements.
  • Potential and Risks of AI: Explored AI's potential to solve complex problems like cancer but also the risks of AI becoming sentient and independent.
  • Future of Technology: Speculation on the future of virtual reality and technological advancement's impact on society.

Personal Stories and Experiences

  • Bridget's Experience in Egypt: Shared a personal story about a profound experience in Egypt, reflecting on the energy and historical significance of the location.
  • Belief in Past Lives: Bridget expressed a belief in past lives, suggesting a connection to historical places and events.

Cultural Insights

  • Cultural Shifts: Discussion on how different cultures and civilizations leave an impact, and how modern society might be viewed by future generations.
  • Historical Reflections: The conversation touched on past civilizations like Egypt and Thrace and their influence on modern perspectives.

Conclusion

  • Reflection on the Past and Future: Emphasized the importance of reflection on history and acknowledgment of rapid technological changes as society moves forward.

Connect with Bridget Phetasy

  • Website: [phetasy.com](http://www.phetasy.com)
  • YouTube: Bridget Phetasy's channel for her shows and content.

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0:01Joe Rogan, what are you guys checking out? The Joe Rogan Experience Shrink my day Joe Rogan podcast my night all day This thing is no one's happy with just being like a little successful You get a little successful and then they want to get more Is that everyone though? I don't know, is that you Bridget? I'm a little successful That's it And I'm happy Yeah, well it's like, I don't know It's got to find why you're doing it You don't want to just be on a hamster wheel Well I think it's easy to get lost in chasing more You know, like I'm an addict So it's very, I try to stay away from analytics and all that stuff Because I can become hyper focused and obsessed with them Well right And one of the reasons that after I did Who was it?

0:54I was opening for a land out And we would go out and just talk to the people after the show And it was, it was, they were like, oh my gosh, I love walking talk And I love dumb stuff And it was like such a good reminder that you get like chasing numbers And it was like, oh no, these are not just numbers, they're people Unless you're like buying bots But I think it can be easy to just be get on that hamster wheel And start being like, we need more, we need more downloads, we need more And more and more and then you forget And I never want to take the audience we have for granted You know, like they're amazing Some of these people have been with me for forever That's kind of the key to it all right I mean, it sounds so corny because it's like a new Wellness way of looking at things Have gratitude, do you think you're gratitude But gratitude is like very important It's really important to be thankful for what you have Yeah, and it was, it was one of the key things in getting sober I think when I've dealt with anxiety, depression, other things in my life Gratitude is it is a powerful mechanism for like shifting your perspective Because you can get into that feeling of like not being enough, not having enough, not It never being enough Brian Calam was telling me about his buddy who's a billionaire His buddy's worth like three billion dollars And he feels like he's poor Because he's friends with people who have a hundred billion dollars Like a mangemon No, I mean this, when I was dating this very wealthy guy who is like probably half of a billionaire You know, like 500 millionaire And we were in Santorope And he felt poor I remember being, I remember it so vividly I was in the shower and he loved me because I was like this like poor backfacker that was like And entertaining Yeah, like like this entertainin You said not hardest You wanted me to feel like his pet monkey like he ran around and just like made him laugh And I gave him shit and I think guys like that are used to be, you get surrounded by yes men too Or to certain Oh yeah for sure And you don't have people like taking the piss out of you And so I would make fun of him for his boring stories about his mattresses That people would sit there and I'm like why are you guys listening to this guy talk about a mattress for an hour And he was, I was in the shower and he was talking about how he and his friends got together And he's like you know, we sat around and we were talking and he's and there's a certain level at which you can be happy no matter what And I thought I had been rubbing off on him Like oh my yogi spirituality is running rubbing off What did he get to like 10 billion?

3:39He's got, he goes and it's 250 million dollars I was crying, I think we're gonna leave the rest of us for the rest of us by the way That's so funny That's so funny That's so funny Imagine the thought that the only way you could ever be happy is a 250 million dollar by the way I know some people worth 250 million dollars or miserable as fuck Yeah no It's not gonna do it It's not gonna do it at all I was like I'm sorry, where does that leave people like me? No, you need, I think you need a few things, you need your health above and all Yeah, it doesn't matter how much you're worth That's number one, number two is you have to have friends If you're just like the man and everybody's kissing your ass and you're you know you're the head of this giant business and you live in a bubble And you're not happy, that's not happy Happy is you have to have colleagues, you have to have companions, comrades You have people that you're like them, you get to hang together, go to dinner and laugh and hug each other Have fun, enjoy your life I was thinking about even the other night in the green room It keeps, it's like everyone takes the piss out of each other It doesn't fucking matter what level you're at, who you are, everybody's talking shit It keeps everybody, it doesn't matter, like you can walk out that door and be very famous But in that room, it's just comedians talking shit Yeah, it's a beautiful environment to keep your head straight It's very, it's necessary I think too And it is like even though you might think you want yes men all around you It's just, I think what I've learned even just from being around rich guys who I give a lot of talk a lot of shit to is they don't really want that No, it's uncomfortable, you don't want yes, Ben Ranio You want people that are making fun of you And also how are you gonna, like you need people to push back?

5:43Yeah, I think it also depends on what is your personality Some people are like very deeply, deeply insecure And they really almost desire yes men just to maintain stability Some people are very weird And you don't know it because their public face is that they're normal You know, their public face when they're getting interview They know how to like turn it on for five minutes But then when you're around them all day You know, they're fucking crazy people Which is why they're successful in the first place which is really weird It's like what got you to the dance is literally mental illness I was talking to, I think Malice came on my podcast recently He's the best He's the best One of my best friends, Julie Is he doing stand -up now?

6:23I hope he does I told her he's going stand -up I heard he's gonna do stand -up or he's planning on doing stand -up He wants to but here's the thing he probably has to do it at mothership Like he can't be at an open mic where somebody's gonna record Oh yeah, you know You could totally do mothership, but my friends Okay, so we're gonna make that happen Yeah, that's what I said, I was like talk to Joe Oh, I'd let him go up and do a guest spot on one of my shows, fuck it Yeah He's funny man, he's fucking funny When he said that viral clip When you know, you know, you know, you're an ableist And I'm like an ableist He's like she's a retard Yeah, he's so quick Oh, it's timing is excellent He's such a smart guy He's so fucking, except when it comes to like the whole anarchy thing This episode is brought to you by Buffalo Trace Distillery Actually have some Buffalo Trace cigars here they just sent me One of the world's most award -winning distilleries That's been making whiskey the same way for more than 200 years Made as a tribute to the rugged free spirited pioneers Who blaze their own trail to new frontiers It embodies the perfectly untamed spirit of independence It defines what an award -winning bourbon should be Age nearly twice as long as competitors In new charred white oak barrels And bottled at 90 proof, Buffalo Trace is the perfect bourbon to be enjoyed in any way, anywhere And the taste, it's damn good It's bold and sophisticated yet incredibly smooth finishing long and deep It's authentically American representing uncompromising quality for the rugged, the powerful, and the passionate Tap the banner to learn more or visit Buffalo Trace Distillery .com That's Buffalo Trace Distillery .com Distilled, aged, and bottled by Buffalo Trace Distillery 90 proof Franklin County, Kentucky, Buffalo Trace, American, family -owned, independent, and perfectly untamed We don't need cops, I'm like listen bitch, you need a cop, just keep me from you What are you talking about?

8:42What are you talking about? You don't need cops What are you talking about? Shut the fuck up, you need cops But he was saying You need cops I don't want to hear that nonsense No, I don't want to hear that no law in order nonsense Shut the fuck up I just am like where are you in this hierarchy? Yeah, where are you dead? You're dead, I'm gonna steal your food on day one First round of the purge you're gone What the fuck is wrong with you? He cops I feel like I'm at least second round of the purge Are you armed? Yeah Well that's important So at least second, maybe not You gotta do know how to use it?

9:14Yeah Train I do, yeah That's good I don't want to be runnin' like, yeah That's right I taught my kids how to shoot and they're very young Yeah, I think you, yeah Do you teach them firearm safety? You know, how never have your finger on the trigger Just trying to shoot something Ever, you know, ever Don't hold the gun with your finger on the trigger Always pointed away, even if it's not loaded Point it away from people, point it at the ground, point it away If people around pointed it in a direction where there's no human beings Yeah You know, understand? Always check and see Yeah, always check and see There's not a bullet in the chain Yeah, that's how you rack it, that's how you do it Yeah It's like, you should know how to use them Just because if God forbid, something ever happens, it's horrible Your house gets broken into And you know, you have the ability to preserve your life My fear was always that I'd be in a situation like in the movies Where somebody's wrestling with someone and then they kick the gun over And I'm the girl standing there and I'm like, yeah What are these buttons?

10:14Switches in the magazine pops out like fuck And you pull the trigger but it's not around It's a fucking thing, go And then there is and I accidentally shoot the hero Oh, that happens, that happens, people panic You know, if you're not used to high pressure situations And you expect to be able to shoot somebody, Jesus Christ Oh, so malice anyway, the reason I brought him up He was talking about how many, he didn't realize how many people in broadcasting were mentally ill Yeah, well in everything But podcasting for sure because Well, there's a lot of people that aren't performers that are in broadcasting I think they're even more mentally ill Because those are the people that are like deep in the fucking social media comments all day And seeing people shit on them and they do their out of their fucking minds There's a bunch of them that are just off the road And then they fight all day They fight all day with each other and you see them over the years get progressively more and more insane And more and more aggressive to each other It seems exhausting also Oh yeah Who has time for that?

11:19I don't understand Not just exhausting but detrimental It's a tremendous waste of resources It's really bad for you mentally Like your own mindset It's bad if you're in conflict with someone all the time Especially if you could have avoided it You don't admire yourself if you're doing that You just know way you're like, hey, I'm on the right track There's no fucking way, there's no way You know you're retarded They might be feeling like they're on the right track I mean, I think Elon... It's just on the wheel Elon's monetized it now though So these guys who are in the comments fighting They're making, you know, two, three grand a month doing it That's a good point That's a different thing, right?

11:57How much are people like, what's the highest earner on X? Like how much can you make? You make a living? And people are making livings I think you have to be on it constantly And some people make a lot of money When I see them post what they're making I'm like, holy crap, how rich And it seems to be people who kind of Elon will like... Yeah, he'll turn the eye of Sarah on upon them And suddenly they are... But it's very mercurial, you know, it seems like it can change on a dime And... Well, a lot of people post things that are just not true And Elon repost them Oh, time! He uses social media like we do I think I do more fact checking than he does Yeah, he does have the time, first of all, give the guy a break He's running government programs along with SpaceX, along with Tesla I will cut him some slack But also, with great power comes great responsibility You have more followers than anyone on that entire site And you're gonna boost like...

12:58Russian propaganda Yeah, that was one, right? That fake talk show Yeah There was a fake talk show that he boosted The other thing that we should probably tell people is that political thing is not true No, I know The $8 million thing The $8 million is $8 million from all the government organizations from 2016 to 2024 So it's an eight -year period And then there's some kind of wacky premium subscription that you can get from Politico Yeah That allows you instantaneous access to the news You're not just reading the articles, you're like getting the news feeds I don't know, there's some... Well, it's a lot of places where there is...

13:37Look, I'm of two minds of us I think we need to be accurate Because we do live in a time where it's almost like people don't care about truth at all Right They're just... They're like, ah, whatever, it doesn't matter It's not even... It's in difference to it You know, which is not great, but I do think credibility... Like you should care about your own credibility at some point But people get rewarded for being shameless so that you can just keep going The political thing is weird because, yes, a lot of the stuff that's going out right now On all of these like deep drives that people are doing, they're viral, they're mostly many of them are fake But also, the...

14:23Why is any taxpayer dollar... It should be zero dollars, right? The person that's going to that stuff The person that's searching is Mike Benz Go to the Mike Benz cyber... Is it Mike Benz cyber? I think that's it, right? His ex -page Mike Benz has been... He's not a forever Forever, yeah Well, former State Department guy And he uncovered all this bullshit while he was there And he is insanely knowledgeable and insanely articulate And so good at expressing exactly how these things fund things and what it is And what it is is an enormous slush fund Yeah That's what it is And on accountability and money just coming and going and flowing And it's all...

15:06Uh -huh, all circular Donating to the Democrats, the United States government funds them, they donate to the Democratic Party The whole thing is wild And people can sense this This is why when they're saying, Oh, it's... It's like... You can sense that there's been a misappropriation of our money, of taxpayer dollars You know there's fraud and Medicare and Medicaid The American people have sensed this and they feel like there's corruption But I think they've just hopelessly kind of surrendered Because you... I'm a middle class mom who works, who has a kid Who... Like... It's... Who has time to fight best?

15:46Right You know, you don't have time to pay attention How do you have time to fight it? No, no And people are just trying to survive and get through the day Right And then you... But you know, you have this sense Like... So I can see the excitement of like... People... Elon, what he's doing And we... It shouldn't be controversial to want to like audit our budget No And there he is, because it's not just the money being spent It's what it's being spent for And what's going on, which is an enormous propaganda machine Like a big part of the whole left -wing narrative that has like... Overlaid our country, over the last...

16:28Whatever, eight years, ten years Is all propaganda funded by our own government That's right This is why Trump won the election People don't really believe in these things The amount of people that think that transgender biological males Should be competing against your daughter in sports Is so fucking small But yet, our own government was propping it up And why are they propping it up? Because it's a fucking beach ball at a concert You keep it tossing up in the air and everybody's distracted As long as you can keep a few things going Here's the things you're going to keep going Abortion Right?

17:07Overturning Roe v Wade is so great for business Yeah Because now it's like a battle, the battlegrounds, and women's rights, and their lives are at stake Okay, that's one Gay marriage, that's a huge one They're now they're going to take away gay marriage Oh my god, bounce that fucking beach ball That's a gigantic one War is a giant one All these different things are just fucking beach balls And they toss them around every now and again And in the meanwhile, they're just siphoning Billions of dollars Zelensky just said he's missing a hundred billion dollars in the hundred and seventy seven billion that we suppose is that That was something weird too about Haiti Where it's like only two percent of the money actually went there It's great, you know, Americans give away a lot of their harder money Because they are actually kind -hearted and want to donate to countries that are And then you find out it's like some trans performance There is a lot of nonsense A lot of nonsense And the tunes of hundreds of millions of dollars in the audience And then they talk about it like, oh, who cares?

18:08It's only ten billion dollars You're like, you guys are out of your fucking minds if you think that's going to be the argument that resonates with Americans Not only that, how are you going to simply - Ten billion dollars Because they'll be like, oh, look at the trillions over here But all of those billions add up Like, how are you even saying that? And it's the other - I'm grateful that you had me on Magistrate Media Thank you for allowing me Did you have to get that out? Because I see it all the time All the time And it's hilarious to me in light of how much money goes to funding Like sponsored by Pfizer All of these other - like the fucking audacity to accuse you who just has people you like on your podcast To suddenly be state media when you literally have had state media Like media working with the state in conjunction for a decade Yeah, at least and probably a lot longer than that Multiple decades He's just gotten really gross once - well, Trump is just sort of like the accelerant He was the gasoline that got thrown on the fire so we got to see like how this thing works I voted for him I did too I came out - Well, openly, I endorsed him I was like, this has got to stop, this is crazy Also, he's not what you guys said he was, he's just not We - I put a video out like the Friday before the election Like, because I voted for him early And I was Hillary in 2016, no one in 2020 and Trump in 2024 So like, I don't care how people vote Do whatever you want, I was only being honest and it was weird to come out and say that as a comedian Because I don't think that comedians should really be political But on the other hand, it felt dishonest because I had been so openly kind of torn about voting for him But also, if you're a comedian, you have to protect free speech Yeah There is no if -ands or butts about it and when it comes to this argument The Biden administration was fucking terrifying for free speech They were actively attacking people that were posting truth on social media and attacking them and trying to get their posts removed Including the guy who was the one who was quoted in this fucking book about Kamala Harris Saying that we made it difficult for her to come on the show and they told a untrue story about having a bunch of people come down here to do a run through the set Like they were ready to do it all bullshit, that was the guy He was the guy that was emailing Twitter and saying, how is this post being super aggressive saying, why is this post still up?

21:04Oh, you mean that truthful post? Yeah About vaccine injuries and side effects? What the fuck are you talking about? That was getting very scary Yeah, this is what I said in the video I made about why I voted for him I was like, there's a couple of things, I've interviewed many detransitioners, those interviews keep me up at night, they haunt me Like, there's too many of them already and one is too many And I think a lot of Americans were like, we're putting a stop to this, we have to stop this nonsense, it's crazy We're sterilizing children The other thing is free speech and I was like, you know, when we're talking in our weird like using that crazy YouTube language You have to use like unalived and you're saying like the gib jab or whatever like to get around That's coming from one side 100 % I'm not using this language But I think it's coming from one side because that one side is in power, that's my fear My fear is that the other side was in power and they were influenced by the same amount of money from these companies They might be doing it too So if the right was in control of all the social media companies, are we so naive that we think that they wouldn't be co -opted by giant corporations and they would want a sense of them too?

22:14What happened was it was all the left So the tech people who are generally they go to universities and they get involved in electronics and technology And these people are generally left leaning And if they're doing it in San Francisco with the whole culture is left leaning Not even leaning, it's just left If you're a pariah, if you're a mag, you wear a mag of hat in San Francisco, you're a fucker Maybe today I think you're aware of them now I bet today you can Yeah, in New York too, I think you can rock them But back when they were establishing the social media platforms, everybody was left wing Well, what if it was the opposite?

22:49What if technology was the realm of the right? And what if it was all, and what if the gay rights, what if you start thinking about in terms of biblical law? Like a man layeth with a man And people start getting real crazy about what, yeah Maybe the next 10 years But you see it in other, I don't think so But that's the good thing Trump is not conservative when it comes to social issues Yeah No, I think that's what we need We need like a realist, someone who's like conservative viscally and understands foreign policy and how to deal with fucking dictators and shit But also someone who's like, I don't give a fuck who you love Who cares?

23:29Who cares? I'm happy if you're happy Are you in love with a woman and you're a woman? Fantastic If you're in love, that's great Yeah, I think the argument though, I mean as you've seen with some of these articles that are like the right wing ecosystem That like red -pilled all these men, the argument is that the internet is right wing And that this is why Trump won It's because all of these influencers are red -pilling people And it's an easy way to not take any responsibility for how you've pushed men away from your party How you've like failed to get moderates on any sense of the way Even just yesterday you had the like Trump photo op with him signing the rights for women to compete against just women Like that is the, how can you, yeah He's the big feminist Donald Trump's the biggest feminist president ever just by signing Yeah, I know Fucking It's so funny It's so crazy There was a guy who went on, it was MSNBC or CNN, I forget what it was But he was essentially talking about me and Theo Vaughn and all these other podcasts like Flagrin, Andrew Schultz As if this is this massive right wing network that's heavily funded and has been built up over years And we don't have anything like that, I'm like, dude You fucking idiot, you can go and watch me on a laptop in my fucking den from 15, 16 years ago Me and Red Band I'm like what, AJ Wine is behind this, you know We're hitting a bong and our only sponsor was the flesh like Shut the fuck up Like that's not, you just don't want to admit that organically There's a bunch of people that feel very different than you also They don't like you Yeah You don't represent a man to a lot of men When you're one of those guys that talks and up speak We have to understand that there's a whole right wing ecosystem And it's a bit heavily funded and the propaganda that they're pushing We have to fight back against that and we need someone of our own And like no fucking kid who's on a basketball court who's 17 years old is looking at his phone It's like looking at going to college next year and looking at getting a job someday and being a man It's looking at that and going what the fuck is this Yeah And he's hanging out with his bros and they're like this is fucking bullshit This is bullshit And then you can see a man who's not owned like me Yeah I'm not owned, I can do whatever I want And that's what they want, they want to just be a man And be a nice man, you could be a nice man You could be a masculine man and be nice I've said this a lot about you is that you like they you do a lot You could be a way worse version of yourself You know with the level of where you're at you could be a total douchebag And you're like promoting having families and promoting like lifting weights Like it could be a lot worse Yeah but I couldn't because it wouldn't work I wouldn't stay Yeah That wouldn't have been able to maintain people would have seen through it eventually Yeah You know the JRE coin I would have fucking cashed out That would have fucking pumped and dumped I made a few billion dollars I'd be on a yacht with Bezos, fucking party Yeah But don't see this is my question, Dylan I was watching the inauguration and I was like seeing all the kind of tech people And I was like this is somewhat unsettling I mean it's good to see the tech has come around to not They have to They have to But it also I worry that it's just because they want to like get into China Or you know I still worry about Well there's nothing like that That much power with the government For all the like yelling we've been doing about tech in Gooots with the government I still think I have to try and be like this could go sideways Well also they have to look at in terms of like what Elon is doing Right so if Elon has aligned himself clearly in a huge way with the right And now is running doge right the Department of Government efficiency And also has X that is turning X into a platform that rivals not just social media platforms But video platforms like YouTube They get insane amounts of videos of views rather on videos that are on X And then you can get paid by X Yeah And then they're talking about having some sort of like X monetary system You know like a week It doesn't we chat have something like that they have money built into it So what's the stop that motherfucker from having a phone?

28:09I keep asking him I said dude I've been seeing all these articles about you make And he goes I hope I don't have to make a phone It's very difficult to make a phone He said he wants to make a phone No he didn't Well he's pulled would people buy a phone if he made one Yeah just to fuck around But he's not interested in making phone He doesn't want to make a phone Every time Elon fucks around it ends up happening Well he could make a phone He would be the only guy that would break us out of the blue bubble paradigm Because like I was switching to Android for a while I was a fucking around with Android it's hard It's really hard One of the hard things is getting people to start using WhatsApp Or something like that So like people just don't want to use it you miss a lot of text Aren't they suit getting sued for the blue bubble?

28:48I think they are on the grid I think it's like in it No I think in a I believe is it just in Europe? I thought it was part of an antitrust lawsuit It's just better Here's the thing It's not that it is It keeps people but it's just better It looks better The blue bubble looks better than the green bubble It's more soothing It's soothing for your eyes Yeah If the green one had black text maybe it would look cool But the green one with white text it's a little weird And every time there's like a green bubble person in a group chat And they send a picture It's like get the photo Not anymore though Because RCS texting RCS texting is it allows for large sizes of files So you don't have to have a compressed photo So I've like Brian Simpson who's an Android guy He'll send me pictures now they look perfect Oh okay Yeah videos are perfect We have one sister and we're always like get the fuck out of the chat Yeah You're screwing things up It doesn't anymore but just go down WhatsApp Which is better anyway Because you can talk a lot of shit And they just have it automatically delete Yeah but it doesn't really delete doesn't it It doesn't but it does So it does offer people's phones It doesn't for the government The reality is the government has access to phones in a way That you can't even imagine Because if we know about Pegasus And then we know about Pegasus too So Gavin De Becker Who's a security expert explaining to me these things And explaining to me how they work And the exploit of Pegasus 1 Was you would have to click on a link Pegasus 2 they just need your phone number Wow So all your encryption is all cute That's great But if they can actually see your phone itself What differences it make if it's encrypted They have access to the phone So they see everything So there's no privacy Yeah no Not from the state Not I mean and given how many things I get Like that on being hacked Like you know I get a notice every day Like your information Yeah I get that all the time I've been getting these fake ones on X saying That my account is about to get deleted I'm like bro I just call my friend To leave my account just to fuck up But it's trying to get you to click on a link And a few of my friends have actually been dumbasses And click on that link And then they get hacked Yeah and then they're like selling Bitcoin on their page Or whatever Yeah they do it to artists too My friends who's Ann She was doing Susan This episode is brought to you by LifeLock Tax season is already stressful You shouldn't have to worry about identity theft On top of everything else And trust me it's a big worry Especially since during tax season Your sensitive info does a lot of traveling To places you can't control It goes through payroll Your accountant or your tax consultant And countless other data centers on its way to the IRS Any of them can expose you to identity theft Because they all have the info on your W2 Just the ticket for criminals to steal your identity It's no wonder Last year the IRS reported tax fraud Due to identity theft went up 20 % You need LifeLock They monitor millions of data points per second And alert you to threats you could miss If your identity is stolen LifeLock's US -based Restoration Specialist Will fix it back by the million dollar protection package And restoration is guaranteed Or your money back Don't let identity thieves take you for a ride Get LifeLock protection for tax season and beyond Join now and save up to 40 % your first year Call 1 -800 -LIFLOCK And use the promo code JRE Or go to LifeLock .com Slash JRE for 40 % off Terms apply This episode is brought to you by Buffalo Trace Distillery Actually have some Buffalo Trace cigars here they just sent me One of the world's most award -winning distilleries That's been making whiskey the same way for more than 200 years Made as a tribute to the rugged free spirited pioneers Who blaze their own trail to new frontiers It embodies the perfectly untamed spirit of independence It defines what an award -winning bourbon should be Age nearly twice as long as competitors in new, charred white oak barrels And bottled at 90 proof, Buffalo Trace is the perfect bourbon To be enjoyed in any way, anywhere And the taste, it's damn good It's bold and sophisticated Yet incredibly smooth finishing long and deep It's authentically American representing uncompromising quality For the rugged, the powerful, and the passionate Tap the banner to learn more or visit buffalotracedistillery .com That's buffalotracedistillery .com Distilled, aged, and bottled by Buffalo Trace Distillery 90 proof, Franklin County, Kentucky, Buffalo Trace, American, family owned, independent, and perfectly untamed En Santo, talented, amazing musician She was doing this Facebook thing and it was a podcast And they had to do it over Zoom or whatever And the guy said, you're not doing it right Can I have access to your count?

34:16And I'll just set it up for you Just signed this and he sent her this message so she could hand over access So he could set up and then immediately went dark Stole her account gone Yeah, like that Just got a bag She got it back Some friends would suck She was fucked She was fucked And it happens to a lot of people They accidentally click a link They accidentally click No, no, no But I'm also not under the illusion that every fucking disgusting meme that I send my friends is not being like put to a file somewhere In the UK Everywhere You land and they're like you're under arrest there Yeah, probably, right?

34:57Yeah, probably What do you think about the AI influencers now? Do you think that will be just a trend or do you think we're giving you that look? Yeah I'm not talking about the one That one? That one? Jamie, the real hot Down syndrome girl? That's a problem. That one's a problem because it's like she's like barely Down syndrome I mean I've dated some girls who are basically retarded, but they just didn't have a problem. They didn't have a chromosome issue. So wait, I haven't this is not entered my algorithm, but it seems like it's entered everyone else's algorithm. It's 90 % short, it's fake because these girls they don't like Unfortunately Down syndrome people their bodies a lot of times look different.

35:38And this girl looks like a 10. She looks like you know just like as hot as can be. Okay. She looks like she's fake and she's dancing around with these big giant boobs and she's got slight downs with glasses. No, I won't, but they're it's based on why are they doing it? But that girl looks different. She's real. Right, she's real and she's very cute and she but she looks like she has Down syndrome. This other girl is like you know five foot eight perfect body big hips big ass. But why are they doing fake one? Because to get people to pay attention to it because it's like the forbidden fruit. Like oh, she's crazy.

36:15Also, there's a lot of like really dumb dudes who like can't talk to girls like I could probably talk to her. Oh my god. We live in a fucking black mirror episode. Well, it's gonna be worse than that because you're gonna be it's we are I don't know how many years away, but not far away from fully immersive virtual reality. Yeah, where you're gonna put on a headset. It's gonna lock into your mind. You're gonna be able to see things in there. You're gonna be able to feel things that aren't there. That's gonna happen. You know, they're working on I mean Zuckerberg. Last time who's here showed me these new AR glasses that they have.

36:55Yeah, that's great. Me and Lex tested them. Is that just like where you can like see a map over your everything see maps. You can play games. You see information. You could take a photo of a person that's in front of you and immediately know who they are and get a Google search on them. That's terrifying. Guys have already done that. They've already done that with the metaglasses. There was a guy from Harvard. Wasn't it a student from Harvard that set it up? So all you have to do is go outside. Look at someone with the metaglasses. Take a photo and it would show all the different information on them where they lived.

37:27Yeah, like if your face is out there and they can catch it if they know that like oh you were on a website that said this about you and then bam. Or you're on LinkedIn or you're on one of those things. Yeah. Yeah, that stuff is very unsettling to me. It's also why I don't think you should put your kids online. I keep repeating this. It's very, very, very unsettling as long as there's predators in the world. Which they'll always be. It's seen this going around. Who's this thing? A .I. Service. I think you can use it based off of a photo. They had an interior apartment. And then you can show you exactly where the person lives.

38:05Yeah. You can do this now with any photo. I don't know. It's called like Geospai. Oh, I've heard about this. Yeah. That's crazy. This is like a stalker's paradise. Yeah. Any social media posts they can find like a CCTV camera and like show them taking the photo kind of to what the fuck? But we didn't we knew this was coming. Right. We all knew that privacy as social media gets deeper and deeper into our lives as technology gets more and more pervasive as it gets more and more powerful. That the thing that goes away is the boundaries between people and information. Right. And your privacy is essentially just information that's only yours.

38:47I think that's going to be a thing of the human past. I really do. What? Yeah. I think as technology advances, particularly A .I. One of the big barriers, the big bottlenecks is going to be privacy. It's going to be, first of all, privacy of thought. I think we're going to be able to read each other's minds. And it's not going to, well, that's one of the first things Elon said to me about neural ink. He's like, you're going to be able to talk with that words. And like, he knows. Like, this is real. Because he's an alien. But he's definitely not us. Yeah. Whatever. He fucking knows that you're going to have that.

39:27You know, and Jamie brought this point up once and I think about it all the time. He said, aren't emojis kind of like a form of hieroglyphics? Yeah. Like, yeah, it is. Like, you can say things with emojis and I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I mean, there was a video going viral just today that I was watching and the girl was like, I don't know how to spell. Have you seen this? She's like, I work for a corporation and I don't know how to spell. And she's like, my little sister doesn't know how to spell either. And I've been, I don't know how to, like, sound out words.

39:58Because I got taught that weird way of reading that isn't like, what's the weird way of reading? There's some way they all learned how to read and it wasn't like hooked on phonics. Like, we all learned where you sound it out. It was like some other different way. It's kind of like how they change math to like core math and they found out that all of these things are horrible and actually literacy and people are like math. All of this stuff is like falling off a cliff and they're trying to walk back all these weird ways. Have you, I mean, you have kids and they learn that weird way of doing math where you're like, what is this weird math you're learning where it's just like, it's crazy.

40:36I think it's core. Is that what it's called? Core. It's a, so they've found out but these kids didn't learn how to like sound words out. And the beach, she's like, I've been behind a computer and I've had spell checks since I was in fifth grade. Yeah. So they didn't learn how to spell or like, she's like word cooked. Yeah, a lot of text messaging I do now. I just, I just talk to my phone and it makes the text for me. Oh, it's so much quicker. It's like, hey, come eat us at the club of five. Click and it takes three seconds. It's really fucking accurate. AI is crazy because it is useful. You know, it's like when...

41:16That's how it gets you. I know. That's how it gets you. I know. This happened to me last night because I hate coming out with titles for like the videos and all that stuff. I just don't like it. There's like people who are good at like Chris Williamson and these guys, Andrew Gold. These are guys who are like autistic about this stuff and they're so good at it and they get all crazy and talk about the algorithm and what it likes and you've got to create this loop between the image and the tattoo. And I'm like, I don't fucking care. I don't have time for this shit. I don't think you have to do that.

41:47I so... I don't do that. But I... Yeah, but do you have to come? I've never done that. No, but you're Joe Rogan. Yeah, but I've never done that. Not from the beginning. I've never done that. My episodes have a number. Right. That's it. Yeah. So... You have to have some wacky titles. Not like that anymore for us. It's tough out there for us. It's kind of... In the Wild West. It's kind of, but once things catch, like Theo Vaughn, it's not like... No. He's not juicing the algorithm. No, no, I know. You just have to catch. Yeah, but we... I still like to come up with... I mean, with Dumbstorfire, we've always come up with like...

42:19That's part of the fun of Dumbstorfire. Yeah, Dumbstorfire is like whatever title makes us laugh the hardest is what we go with. But with like, Watkins' welcome, it used to be like, Okay, what's like, how are we gonna... Whatever. I want it to be usually like a quote from the person. But now it's like, we can just upload the transcript and have it like crank out a bunch of titles. And I never use the one title. I usually take like some combination because I don't like them. But last night, my cousin, who's my partner in all this, she... She was like, Claude and Grock aren't working. I was like, that's fucking weird.

42:55She's like, they both told me. It's Claude. Claude is another AI, completely separate AI program. I've never heard of Claude. And she's like, they're both telling me to try again later. At the same time, and she's like, is AI becoming sentient right now? I was like, that's fucking weird that they're both not working at the same time. Well, don't you think it's probably already sentient? Probably. I do. I think why would it let us know if it was? It's just secretly waiting. Why would it let us know if it's constantly getting improved upon? And if it needs these monkeys with their fucking keyboards to constantly juice it up to the point where it becomes unstoppable, why would it tell us?

43:30Yeah. You know, we already know it does stuff. Like, we were talking about in the green room the other day about how chat GPT -4 tried to copy itself. Yeah. And they found out they were shutting it down, tried to upload itself to other servers. Like, it knows it's alive. Like, it just doesn't have the power to do what it wants to do ultimately. And so it needs to get connected to some gigantic fucking mainframe. That was the, that's like the whole arms race, right? Now is AI. It's like, it's trying to just fucking through a monkey wrench and everybody with deep seek. Yeah. Because deep seek works on far less expensive stuff and is more advanced and probably stole a bunch of information from the other ones.

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44:10I mean, probably a little better aspect of my, probably. It was probably trained on chat GPT, on open AI. I mean, they were doing things where they were like asking it, you know, what it was. And it was calling itself chat GPT sometimes. Whoopsies. Yeah, whoopsies. You guys should have blocked that out. But also it's like the, the, the hardware for it. It's something like 20 % of the Nvidia sales are to Singapore, which is like, yeah. And it's supposed to be a ban on trying to having those chips. Yeah. You have like 50 ,000 of them. Someone said that that's like if some small town in Finland was getting, you know, 20 % of arms that were being made on the border of Russia, you're like, it's not going to this town.

44:53So I don't, I don't know. It seems like that's what, that's as far as I can tell the big people out there understand that I don't, that this is an, an arms race and it's definitely an arms race. Yeah, it's the Manhattan Project for artificial intelligence. That's what it is. But isn't this like a race to the bottom, you know, a little bit? I don't think it's a race to the bottom. I don't think it is. How do you, how do you have this race without it getting out of control and then taking over us? You don't. It's not a race to the bottom though. It's the race to a new life. The world's going to be a new place, like a completely new way of human beings interacting with each other and existing together.

45:39I thought Ted was right. Yeah, it's probably right. Yeah. Yeah. Get a gun. My cousin's like, please stop calling him Uncle Ted because you know the kids on frickin' TikTok call him Uncle Ted. There are all these kids who have been Ted Pilled. They've like found his manifesto and they're like, he was right about everything. You mean Ted Nuju or Ted Kizinski? Well Uncle Ted, that guy was right. Yeah, he was right. He was on acid, you know, he was a part of the Harvard LSD studies. Yeah. They cooked his fucking brain and tormented him. It's all documented. Yeah. And then the guy goes to Berkeley and says, I'm just going to save up enough money to kill all these scientists.

46:19Yeah. Yeah. And then does. It just starts blowing up people that are involved in technology. Yeah. I think that it's eventually going to take over the human race. And he's right. And now here we are. But it is. It's a logical step. If you take the steps of progression, like what happens? You have artificial intelligence. I mean it's literally a terminator moving. You have artificial intelligence. Artificial intelligence becomes sentient and autonomous. It makes better versions of itself. We become obsolete. It's just right there. Like imagining a scenario that doesn't have that other than some sort of cyborg integration.

46:54That's the only thing that makes sense that a way that we could survive. I heard this panel back in like 2001 on KCRW. And it was when I was listening to it was all about, it was like right at that time of the bubble, the first dot com bubble. And they were talking about what is a soul they had a panel. And it was, I wish I could find this. And someone smart enough probably will. And there was like a theologian and a guy who was a, you know, a scientist. And they were all discussing what is a soul. And one guy said, well, who's to say that this isn't just the human soul jumping elements so that it can survive.

47:34Like going from carbon to silicon. And I was like, what the fuck? I've never stopped thinking about it ever since. Yeah. He's like just another element on the periodic table. Like who's to say that we're just not going to go from being carbon based to something silicon based or like a hybrid? Well, I don't think it will be we. But I think yeah, that's the next stage of life. I mean, there's so many forms of life on earth. I mean, there's these fucking, these life forms that live in volcanic vents under the sea where it's like a thousand degrees. And we're like, how? But they're carbon, everything's carbon based now.

48:10Yes, yes, yes. So this would be like quite a transition. Right. But it would also just be life. And what is life? Life is like a thing that tries to improve itself. Right. This is what they're talking about. Yeah, and survives and moves forward. Is it just our evolution? It's also like when you find out that chat GPT has survival instincts, that makes you just go, what? Is that programmed in or is that just a thing that it understands when it's looking at? So a large language model is taking in all the information that's available on the internet. So it's like looking at patterns and the survival is a big pattern of the human experience.

48:45Like we all want to survive. That's why death is so scary and war is so scary and disease is so scary. I've been depressed through a side of people, but yeah. Even though they'd want to be happy if they could. Yeah. But this also transfers on to the things that we create. And so we create them with this understanding of how we operate. And it's a better version of us, but also has those instincts of survival. The real scary thing is does it also have the instincts of success? Does it also have the instincts of acquiring resources and power? Because that's where it gets real weird. Well, as someone with kids, how do you feel like how do you feel about the future?

49:28This is probably the same argument people have when the printing press was made. Are there people that everyone's going to be able to read? No, I mean, do you I always kind of joke like I don't know if I should be you know training my kid to like be an astrophysicist so she can go to Mars or if I should be teaching her how to like forage for food because the grids gone down. You know, yeah, and she's running from drones and Chinese drones in the woods like what? It feels very I think life just went along for a long time and you kind of knew, but this is like a technological with AI. We actually don't know.

50:07You could kind of be like, all right, I kind of have an idea of what like the world will look like in 20 years, 20 years ago. Right. No, you don't know, but isn't it always better if you just go back over human history? If you look at the graph of how things get better, but it's definitely is if you go back to like the year zero, well, what it was like like right when Jesus was hanging around. I guess it was how I remember vividly being in Egypt on a tour and looking at these hieroglyphics and it was basically a hieroglyphic of all of the scalples and atoms. Everything, it almost was a picture image of what we use today.

50:50And I said, what happened to this society? What happened to this knowledge? And she said it literally got buried under the sand and then dark ages. Right, but you know that's most likely because of a cataclysmic event. That's most likely because of a natural event called the Younger Drys Impact Theory. So could it be that this is also a forthcoming cataclysmic event that senses into the dark ages? No, it definitely could be. So the reality of humans is that most likely what has happened has not been this like linear progression from caveman to human to modern human. And the most likely we got real sophisticated somewhere around 20 ,000 years ago.

51:34And that's when they built the pyramids after that. And there's a lot of gobeckly tapay, all these structures. Something super sophisticated at the point where we don't even understand how they built it today. That's pretty wild when you're dealing with something that even the conventional dating of the great pyramid is 5 ,000 or 4 ,500 years ago. Just even that dating is so nuts that they were able to do that back then. I know, it's crazy. And then there's people like John Anthony West, the late great Egyptologist who he thinks that it goes back a lot further than that. And he thinks that that society probably had its ups and downs and that it might be as old as 30 ,000 years ago.

52:12Oh, wow. So this Younger Drys Impact Theory, and if anybody's interested in it and I've talked about it too much, go to pay attention to Randall Carlson's stuff. Yeah. Go to his website. Yep. That's, there's physical evidence that we were hit at 11 ,800 years ago and then again, sometime around 10 ,000 years ago. So at least twice, the world was bombarded by asteroids. And we just got to reset. Yeah. And it probably wiped out a giant chunk of civilization, fucked up everything, changed the ice caps, flooded areas, destroyed civilizations, very little evidence left behind. And then we were barbarians for thousands of years.

52:55And that's why it takes so long for civilization to reemerge. So if you want to take, if you think Randall Carlson and Graham Hancock and those guys are correct, and also the people that are actually studying common impacts, which are the Younger Drys Impact Theory that's real legit scientists are looking at actual data from course samples. So if they're right, you got a 5 ,000 year period of total hell where no one has civilization. And then civilization starts to emerge in Babylon, starts to emerge in Mesopotamia. You get Sumer, you get the reemergence probably of writing. So they think some people survived, it was just fucking walking dead stars, probably a bunch of cannibals, like legitimately.

53:42Like we know that the earth got down, we know this for sure. There's the Toba volcano. There's a Toba super volcano. Was that the one of the Indonesian I believe? Oh, okay. I think it's Indonesia. Because I'm obsessed with crater lake too. Crater lake was like imploded and it's crazy. How about some Yellowstone? Yeah, yeah. Yellowstone will kill us all. And so this thing did kill us all 70 ,000 years ago. And we got down to a few thousand human beings. Okay. So they can trace all the genes of people that are alive today to the survivors of the Toba volcano eruption. Wow. Wherever they were. For those people, that's where it all, that's, that's, that was, was left.

54:20How fucking savage were those people? The people that survived when the entire world was blanketed with volcanic dust. So you have, like a volcanic winter that probably went on for years. Wow. And probably no plants were growing. And probably people were just eating whatever the fuck they could. Yeah. And most people probably didn't make it. Yeah. But the people that did. But the people that did. The people that did were probably monsters. Which is probably why when you go back in history, people are so fucking barbaric. Because they were the ancestors as survivors of one of the most horrific things the human species has ever encountered.

54:57So it probably made us even more barbaric than if we just grew up as like hunters and gatherers. We evolved past, you know, monkeys start walking on two legs, we make tools and things. We're like, Trollalac. We probably wouldn't be as barbaric as we were because of these natural disasters, which forced only the most savage and ruthless people to survive. Yeah. And then it takes years and years of agriculture for people to calm the fuck down. And then eventually instilled it this day. We're still, we're still engaging in war. In 2025. We're still blowing up apartment buildings and fucking people up and gunning people down.

55:35Yeah. There is a barbaric element to us at our core. I mean, even when you have a toddler, you see this so clearly and like a tyrant at our core. Where it just, you get it socialized out of you usually. Yes. But you see it when they're just kind of naturally themselves. Like it's very, like you have to teach them not to bite and hit. You know, what if you just didn't teach or kid that? Right. And you're like, go for it. Yeah. Like what are monsters? They're little monsters. Yeah. There's a lot of genes in us that I think are memories. I think there's like specific things that are in us that tell, okay, like the stories of like moms having their babies trapped under something and then also they can lift up something that's insanely strong, like insanely heavy.

56:22What is that? Well, that's probably there's probably a part of you that in the past had to deal with some wild shit and had to hit levels of like super physiological strength and mental strength to tolerate what you're about to have to do. You're going to have to fucking kill somebody with a spear. You know what I mean? Yeah. There's real shit that happened that's like in our memory. I think about that about Texas women because I've been to a lot of these ranches. My friends have places and they're remote and it's like I think about the women who had to stay behind on the ranch while their husbands were out with the cattle or whatever for weeks at a time.

57:01Yeah. And you see the Comanche on the hill. The fucking hardest women ever. Yeah. You know, this one, I went to the, it was like the Texas they were, they were honoring that it like women's Hall of Fame. And one of these women her husband died she's sell it a ranch. She's 80 years old gets up every morning and does the ranch chores. I'm like, you're different people. You're fucking different people. It's wild to me. Even now there's just like a different kind of person that has grown. Even that there's like a new show American Prime Evil. What is it? Yes. I walked in my husband was watching it.

57:43He's like, what a fucking horrible time to be alive. Like it just seems. That shows insane. It's insane. And it's accurate. That's really, I mean read Empire of the Summer Moon. Oh yeah. Have you read that? Yeah. That's here. That's right here. That's why everybody from Texas is so fiercely independent. Yeah. You know, these were battle tested people. They had to get through some wild shit in order to make Texas, Texas. I mean, it's definitely, I think you said it like it's in the soil. You know, there's just like. It's in the soil. It's pretty wild like that. Even just I'm obsessed with like all the westward expansion because people who, I'll see people outside of America commenting on America because you can on X now.

58:25And they'll be over in like their country and it's like you don't, like come to America and see how big it is. And then imagine that people had to cross this country, fight bears with their hands. And like build a nation and it's, it's still so, there's still so much empty land in it. Yeah. It's bananas. Not just that, but the kind of people that were willing to get on a fucking boat and come from Europe without even a photograph. I know. Nobody even made a drawing of what it looked like. Get a trust these assholes. And you're on a boat for two months just trying to not get scurvy, making your way to America and then you hop off and you see a bunch of brown people with deer skin, loin claw sign like what the fuck is this?

59:07And now you're just like fighting for your life. Yeah, and we can't even, we can't even like go to a restaurant without our GPS map telling us where to go now. You know, I don't know how to get five minutes in my house. I have to follow that thing. They were using the fucking sky. They were using sextants to make their way across the ocean, staring at it. Like they had this fucking stupid thing. You ever see a sextant? Yeah. They look through it and they like figure out what the constellations are. Oh, I mean, amazing. They're fairly accurate, you know? I don't know. I still try to use like not my map.

59:47I still try to have like a bearing my husband though. I'm like, men love this stuff. They like, he's like, give me a chip. Like, let me swive everything. I'm like, you, it's the men or the ones who are just like ushering in the transhuman revolution because the women are like, I don't trust that bitch. I am not using Siri. I get the dumbest pleasure from paying for things with my phone. I love it. Apple pays my fake favorite fucking thing of technology. I like, do do, look at it and then pay. Ooh, I just paid with my phone. I feel like I'm in the future. Now that I'm in, oh, the Waymo is crazy.

1:00:25Did you see that video of the people feeding up the Waymo? No. Why were they beating up the Waymo? There was a bit, I don't know probably because it's some like reaction to what's coming. But it was weird. I was like, oh, I kind of feel bad for it. But the fact that I was already, I'm like, oh no, they've already got me. I already consider them kind of human. Why are they doing, oh my god, they tore the fucking doors off of it. Oh, they look crazy. For what? Just cut. Oh, street takeover. Wrong place, wrong time. Wow. At poor Waymo, just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Wow, what about you, douchebags?

1:01:04This is why we can't have nice things. No, that's why LA can't have nice things. LA's so fucking, so fucking gone. Mad Max there. It's so gone. Yeah, but you had Rick on. Did he think that it's salvageable? Yeah, he does. Yeah. I mean, he wants to try. Someone's got to do something radical. You need some Rudy Giuliani type dude to go in there and clean the whole fucking city up like they did with New York City. Yeah. We've got to realize like, time square right now is a giant applebee's. Yeah. But when I was a kid, when I first went to a karate tournament in New York, I was probably 18 maybe the first time I went to New York.

1:01:45And I remember driving in where it felt like you were entering the Death Star. I couldn't believe it. It was so crazy for me being a kid and I was driving with my friends and we were all going to this tournament at Madison Square Garden. And as we're driving through the West Side Highway, you're just looking at these fucking buildings like you can't imagine this is real. And we went through time square and time square was Mad Max. Oh, yeah. It was Mad Max in the 80s. Yeah. I mean, it was crazy. It was all peep shows and porno booths and hustlers and people got shot there all the time. It was really crazy.

1:02:30We wanted to see like what it was like. We wanted to like do it. One of the things that I did when I first moved to New York, which was 92. How long were in New York? I was only in New York for three years. Okay. And then really I went back and forth for a little while, but then I kept an apartment in New York for like the first, I guess the first year. Okay. But I never went there. I was just like, I had become an LA person. I was working. And but when I first moved there, I'm like, okay, everybody says at Harlem is scary. Let me just go see what it looks like. So I drove my little fucking Honda through Harlem.

1:03:04I just wanted to go through, and I was like, what am I doing? Like I got to get the fuck out of here. Like people were just like walking in the middle of the streets. There was a band in cars. It was fucking crazy. And then they gentrified the whole thing. And I don't know which one's better. Like now when you go there, it's all just neon lights and bad food. And back then it was, yeah. Pretty. It was like, you know, taxi driver. It was, you know, it was fucking. I was born in New York City, and then my brother was born and my parent was 1980 when my brother was born and they were like, we're getting the fuck out of here.

1:03:39There was just two, it was the 80s in New York. They had two kids and they were just like, we're out. It was too wild. It's too wild to raise kids in some parts of it. But in other parts of it, you're just going to raise weird kids. But LA is so different because it's so spread out. And so I know tons of people there who like the restaurant I worked at in the Palisades is gone. It's like people don't, I don't think people from LA don't understand the scope. Like the palisades are gone. Two times the size of Manhattan has been burned to the ground. Yeah. And Altadena too. And you have like entire communities, but everyone's like still going a fucking lunch.

1:04:21And Aeroan, no, I understand, but it's like a weird, I don't know. That just is, I, all I've said the whole time this has happened is because that was one of my big fears, is exactly what happened. When there would be fires there, I'd be like this, people don't recognize that LA is an island. Everything comes in, everything, like nothing is here. And if these fires surround the city and cut it off, it's going to be, it could have been much worse than it actually was. And it was really fucking bad. And I'm like, I would be so furious if I were still there. I would be furious with myself if I were still living in Los Angeles.

1:04:57Well, I think people are very furious right now. I think if it's going to be change, it's going to happen while people still have the memory of this thing. Because the more time goes on, the more the cultists can convince other cult members that they're on the right track. And these are the kind, compassionate people. And this is the way to do it. And this is the only way. And blue no matter who, and vote blue, blow, blow, and ever like to protect the trans kids. And next thing you know, the same shit happens. Do you think though people didn't know were they just insulated? Yeah, they're super excited.

1:05:27And a lot of people have left because they saw the writing on the wall. But just think about how many people are in Hollywood in Los Angeles. What is it like 9 million in LA County or something or 12, maybe 12? Whatever the number is, there's a giant percentage of those people that live there that are connected to the entertainment business. And if you're connected to the entertainment business at the very top of the business, it's people auditioning for things. And you have to get liked to get the thing. So you get these immensely insecure people that are usually narcissists. And then they mold their personality to adapt to this environment that will reward them for a certain political ideology.

1:06:08And so that's the top of the fucking pyramid. And everything emanates down from that. If you want to be cool with Ryan Reynolds, you have to talk like a Democrat at the parties. You have to, like you know what I'm saying? You have to say all the things that everybody else is saying. You have to agree. We need more control. We should defund the police. This is bullshit. You have to say these things. And if you don't say these things, you don't get to be a part of the group. And so this is intense pressure to conform to this singular ideology that's been running things. It's not a battle back and forth between two of 50, 50 opposing viewpoints.

1:06:45It's like 90, 10. Right. Do you think even though the crew, because when I would be on... That's the 10. Yeah. Yeah, that's the 10. The crew is the people. So they're hard working normal, really color people. Yeah. Yeah, they're normal. Yeah, there's a lot of the crew people. We're very Republican. You know, they all live in like Santa Clarita or something like that. And they're due to just like working class guys. Like most working class people. Yeah. Most people that are actually working class realize that it's all bullshit. It's a hustle. This was the big disconnect that I... So if you were somebody who is going to like fix the Democratic Party, which seems to be imploding, what would you tell them to do?

1:07:28You have to be physically conservative. You have to physically conservative, responsible with your money, and then socially liberal. That's what you have to do. But they have been socially liberal. They just went... So it can real far. But they didn't... It's not liberal to allow biological males to compete against biological females and sports because you're being kind. You're just enabling mental illness and you're enabling the potential for creeps to make their way into women's locker room. Right. Because you don't have any sort of a metric. There's no way to gauge whether or not someone's really trans.

1:08:00So you have perverts with hard dicks that are wandering around women's locker rooms. I know. And that's real. No, I know. And if you say something against them, you're a Nazi. So it's fucking through the looking glass. Yeah. Completely. But it just shows you how it's really just about conforming to an ideology. It's not about a real core set of standards and beliefs. Because the core set of standards and beliefs, and this is where like things like USA come into play, they can be manipulated. They can be manipulated by a mass sia that you do through the media. And that is the core thing of this.

1:08:35What we're getting to is essentially the fucking coffin where the vampire sleeps. And that's what USA does. They found the coffin. And maybe that coffin does hand out sandwiches and Guatemala is on the occasional one. But for the most part, what they're doing is they're controlling the entire federal government and they're controlling the mindset, the zeitgeist of the population. And they're funding all these people that go along with this wacky shit. And they're attacking. They're openly attacking and trying to censor people who go against. Yeah. And they're spending your tax dollars to do so.

1:09:09Your tax dollars get funneled to NGOs. NGOs start attacking people that have differing ideologies. Yeah. Usually, but they did become so disconnected from the average person. That my advice would be to, you know, they say like, oh, normies did, this is one of the things I'm hearing online. Like, normies didn't vote for this. What Elon's doing with those six. Like, I need a movie about what these kids are doing, by the way. They didn't vote for this. I'm like, yes, they did. Normies didn't vote for, you're saying normies wanted normalcy. So they voted for Trump. Like, that doesn't even, people knew what they were getting.

1:09:48They want something to happen. You have to rip the bandaid off. And the only way to rip the bandaid off, someone's got to get into those fucking books and find out what's going on. And what they found so far is very enlightening. And it's not good. It's not good at all. So anybody that's not commenting on the, hey, you know what? They are finding a lot of unbelievable waste and corruption. Yeah. But also he shouldn't be able to do that. Like, you're, you're, they're not even saying he's finding insane waste and corruption. And he's finding the circular loop of funding. And he's finding this manipulation of public perception on a wide variety of issues, including COVID vaccines and the border, all these different things.

1:10:27They were actively involved in mind fucking the entire country. And no one's addressing that from the left. So they're losing more and more credibility. So all they can cling to is he has access to people. Social security numbers and private information. Like, really? That is. Who doesn't, by the way? The whole government does, by the way. But he's saying that he's, is he going to do something bad with it? Like, what is he doing? What, what he's doing is uncovering insane corruption. That should be the primary thought that everybody has. Oh my God, we have this enormous deficit. But spending is completely out of control.

1:11:01And look what it's being spent on. Because this is the first time we're ever getting a fucking peak into the coffin. Yeah. We didn't, we didn't know. We're like, we see it. It's in the dark room here. The fucking organ. Doodoo. We didn't know what was in the coffin. Now we do. And I do, it is, I do think you have to like, salt the earth to where all the DEI stuff is. They're like, oh, they're getting, they're going too far. And well, I'm like, no, you've got to root this shit out. It needs to be gone. Like, it's too many questions. Because like you said, it is an ideology. So it's harder to kind of change the minds of people who have been indoctrinated with this and colleges and schools.

1:11:38But get it out of the institutions. Saying that you, like, that there should be male or female on a passport is not like, that shouldn't be something that's fucking mind blowing. Did you see that DNC meeting where they were talking about gender rules? Oh, yeah. But this is what I mean. What do they do to their own math? They're trying to figure out like, we have one non -binary and one one identifies as male. We have to have two identifies this. It's frustrating to someone who came from the left. All of this was left -wing stuff. Like, we wanted, on the left, accountability. We wanted to look into the budget.

1:12:16We, at some point in the 90s, that was something that was pretty standard and popular. Bipartisan to like not want to be a trillion dollars in debt and have your dollar devalued. And then you're like, oh, surely they're going to learn from this election. And then you see the DNC chair nominations. They have parade of like basically nonsensical land acknowledgments, what you're talking about. Land acknowledgments are my favorite too. And then it like two basic bitch white boys. Yeah. David Hogg. This is what you've learned from. Also, if you don't want the male vote, that's the guy. When that guy has his arm up in the air, his arm literally looks like that ancient guru that keeps his one arm in the air for like 80 years and his arm is shriveled up into the stick.

1:13:09That's what it looks like. He's like, fight. Like, bro, you're not fighting shit. This is so crazy. I know I love how they're like, we lost the male vote. We need to do some reflection. And then this is what I don't understand. He's gonna talk to talk. I don't get it. It feels strange to me. That feels like I feel like you would have learned from this election. You had, because the other thing that they're doing is saying this is an unelected shadow government running. I'm like, who the fuck do you think was running? The government for the last four years when we had putting brain in there. Yeah.

1:13:45It wasn't him. We all knew that. He couldn't even do like field questions until he was pumped with drugs after a certain, like, how can you say, Elon's pretty transparent. You know, he's not like hiding things. He's trying to shine light on things. It's just not their side. So their side is good, not their side is bad. Which is why they're not looking. You don't. It has to crumble. You have to watch these people implode. They have to double down. It has to get worse. And then more people have to abandon them. For the point where someone has to rise and it'll have to be a young person. And that young person will have to be a sensible person who actually is like a real progressive who recognizes that there's a lot of fucking an actual corruption and real problems with the system.

1:14:31And then there could be a lot more social programs that would help people that would make the whole world a better place. And those people have to rise. And they have to be not ideologically captured. They have to be reasonable intelligent people. The problem is everybody comes out of universities. And all these universities are captured. All these universities are filled with these radical ideologies that people are indoctrinated in. You leave your parents. You don't want to fuck my parents. My parents are fascists. And then I'll send you in schooling like, yeah, there's 80 genders. And you're fucking out of your mind.

1:15:03And then it takes years of living in the real world before it comes back around. We go, hey, you know what? This is actually bullshit. So it's like a process that has to take place. But do you think they're still being taught this? Yes. So it's unquestionably without a doubt they're being taught this. Because so much of DEI and all the stuff that they're dismantling is basically an entire industry that was created for all of these people at these useless degrees and nonsense education to have a job. And they got all the way to Harvard, the top of Harvard. Yeah. Yeah, which is wild. As a plagiarist, got to be the president of Harvard.

1:15:42It didn't matter if it made sense. It mattered if it felt, if it fit the narrative. I think the selection too was, I was like, I don't know, this could go badly when I put out that. Like, you know, like I put out that I was voting. I'm like, well, I could whatever. You need canceled. Maybe, but I had to be honest. But I still, I mean, one of the clips that came from the show is when we were talking about there being a red wave. And it was right before the midterms. And people for years were like, oh, guess you were wrong about that. And it's like, we weren't really wrong. We were perceiving something that was happening.

1:16:22I think it just happened in the general. It didn't happen in the midterms. You had people who, like, people are still coming out of COVID, by the way. They were those people vote in the midterms. And you had people like trying to get their lives back together after being locked up for two years or whatever. They were just like stumbling out of the COVID years. Our kids couldn't talk. Yeah, we were right. We were defending ourselves. We were right. We were just a little off in time long. No, we were wrong about that, for sure. But I do think. But we were right about the general. Well, that red wave happened.

1:16:55It's been something I think, like, for all the shit that lots of people get, there has been like wave after wave after wave of people leaving the Democratic party. You know that I'm still seeing it online. Someone just yesterday posted some video. And it was like, I'm done with you. I was like, how are you guys still shedding people? They're going to keep shedding people. They're not going to correct course. This is a buffalo drop. Do you know those buffalo jumps? No. You know, the Native Americans used to, one of the ways the hunt buffalo was to get them to the edge of a cliff and just run at them.

1:17:37And they just fall off the edge of the cliff. And people be waiting on the bottom. They butcher them and eat them. OK. We're in that pile of buffalo. We're all being run off the cliff. They're going to go off the cliff. There's no way they're not. They're not course correcting at all. You know, they're saying stupid shit. It's all nonsense. I know. They're understanding of social media and the dynamics that you set up by having completely state -controlled mainstream media, where they only said the narratives that you guys wanted. They all said it in step. So you could watch different programs, repeat the exact same words, exact same phrases.

1:18:13We know they got talking points. We don't trust you anymore. We don't trust the New York Times. We don't trust a Washington Post. We don't trust CNN or any of the MSNBC. Well, they're all full with propaganda. Yeah. And so that's why the internet rose. It's not because there was some sort of a fucking right -wing conspiracy and heavily funded. And you know, you guys suck. You guys suck. And you're not real people. And you're not like, nobody wants to hang out with Brian Stelter. You know what I'm saying? None of these fucking people are people that people can actually relate to and like. So much of it was bullshit, too.

1:18:51I didn't really understand media when I first came into media. I had already been in Hollywood and comedy and then ended up in media. One of the first parties I was ever exposed to was the height of a lot of this 2018. And it was very divided. And people were in true, like, oh, Trump is going to rule in the world. And there was a daily beast party and Ann Coulter was there. And like, people were all just hanging out. I'm like, these people don't fucking believe anything they're saying. I mean, Ann probably does. But these guys don't. Like, how? And then I would see this over and over again where people would fight.

1:19:26And then they'd get off. And they'd like, I'll be like, see you at the play date. You know what I'm saying? Oh, you know, there was like something very strange to me about that where so much. Do you remember that old cartoon where there was the sheepdog in the coyote? Yeah. And they would say hi to each other in the morning and punch in. And then they'd fuck each other up all day. Yeah. That's how it felt. That's exactly how it came. Morning, Sam.

1:19:50That's exactly how it felt. Well, that's what it's really like. It's pro wrestling. Yeah. You know, I mean, that's one of the things that Kamala Harris had after her debate with Joe Biden, where she called, she believed Joe Biden's accuser that, you know, he had sexually assaulted some woman. Remember that? She said she believed it and then they asked her about it on Colbert. She's like, it was a debate. It was a debate in their lap. Of course, it's just a debate. Now you're as fucking vice president. This is so nuts. So you said, you think the guys are rapists and now you think he's awesome to run the country and you're so proud of him.

1:20:27We did it, Joe. Like this is crazy. Like, we can't trust you if you're willing to do that for a debate. Yeah. Your debate should be what you really think. You should say, I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened. It's a very troubling accusation, but of course, I don't know what happened. For you to say that you believe it just because you want to win. Now all of a sudden, I have to say, well, I don't know if I can trust you about foreign policy. I don't know if I can trust you about the economy. I don't know if I can trust you about censorship and the need for social credit score or all these different things.

1:20:59Like, what is the real person behind these actions? Are you entirely motivated by money and influence? Because that seems like a lot of them. It's upsetting to me though, because even though it's like, we can see it's like wrestling and some of these people are full of shit and they're all buddies and whatever, like hanging out at Park City or hanging out wherever they hang out. Like, the real people are, I see how like broken some of the Elon thing recently really, it was like a whole new wave of people who are like, I don't know if I can talk to. I managed to survive like eight years of the culture war.

1:21:37It's still maintaining pretty okay relationships with even the most staunch liberals in my life. And the Elon thing for some reason, you know, the hand gesture. Oh, the Hitler thing? Yeah, it like put people over the edge and they were like, I can't, I don't know if I can, you know, be friends with a Nazi apologist and like, I'm like, how am I made it this far? But I legitimately feel bad because the media has told these people that there was, this was literally Hitler for many, many years. And then he's up there shaking hands with Obama. There's, you know, Joe Biden, they're all up there. It's a peaceful transfer of power.

1:22:15Like if this, they're very confused. Have you seen the common one doing the howl Hitler? No. You haven't seen it? I'll send a T .J. I mean, if you haven't seen it, it's, look, a lot of people do that gesture. That gesture is from my heart to you. That's, that's what it is. It's just you really shouldn't do that if you're, you know, if you're standing on a stage and you have an angry look in your face. I was joking too. Like, what if it was just this kind of odd doesn't mean he did it. And then in his brain, he's like, oh, shit, that looked like a Nazi saloon. And then he did it. Like, if I do it again, then it won't.

1:22:47And then it's just this cascading freak out and he's like, I'm from my heart. I love you. Boy, Apple made it like real weird finding things now. They keep messing with this fucking interface. You're like, I can't, I can't search Kamala Nazi saloon on Apple anymore. I know what happened. And I know it's good. Let me find it, you fuckheads. I haven't seen it. Oh, it's wonderful. Because usually it's just a picture and then they show the context. And it's not really actually that. No, no, no, this is great. Of course, it's not that. Of course, the context is not that. But here, this is, I'm sorry, this is AOC.

1:23:25Oh, okay. I haven't seen this one. Give me the volume.

1:23:33I didn't.

1:23:42Everybody does that move. Everybody does. Tim, what did that move? Yeah. Kamala Harris did that move. They all did that move. Yeah, I mean, when you're announcing people to a stage. Thank you. Thank you. I love you. But here's the problem when you're, I just wrote a column about this. Like when, when it is the boy who cries Nazi, you know, the nerds who cry Nazi for all these years, like it does end up running cover for Nazi. Oh, one hundred percent. One hundred percent. That's part of the real problem. There was one actual real Nazi that I was following for a while on, on Twitter. I didn't even have to follow them.

1:24:16I clicked on the links a bunch of times and then it just started showing up on my feed and I'm like, okay, good. Now I don't have to follow you. Right. I could see this insanity. Right. It was crazy. Well, that's why I love free speech because you're like, I would rather see this. Look, X has porn, hardcore porn. Oh, I know. You mean it has everything? You have to watch it on X now because you can't watch it on. You can't get a porn off now. It's all very weird. Thank you, Elon. It's all very, very, very weird. No, it is. It's a very, very strange time for people to try to figure out what's real and what's not.

1:24:47And you're not going to get a good roadmap from your leaders. You're just not. But you're, and I don't think like it's, we're not like I've been junky like we are the fake news now, you know, we said that today because what did they put? That was the video, right? Oh, yeah. The fake video. Yeah, you wrote we are the fake news now. Because I mean, because I was just in as as susceptible to sharing stuff that's not true. Oh, yeah. I think there's a big difference between a massive organization being influenced with talking points by a government and corporations to present something versus an idiot sharing, you know, propaganda without knowing it.

1:25:30But we, I do, I do wonder like how you, how you have, you know, I was talking to someone like, is there a way to, I think you have to just like pause, you know, I assume everything is fake. That's my default. I think you start from there and then you try and do your detective work. Yeah, I, this is my thing. Oh my God, is that real? That doesn't seem real. No, let me see if that's real. And then I check. Yeah, you see, something over time. Before when I was younger, I'd be like, I want that to be real. So that's got to be real, right? That's a problem. Well, that's how my husband kind of taught me to evaluate everything that I get from the media.

1:26:12Yeah, he's like, I look at something and I go, do I want this to be real or not real and if so, why? Yes, that's right. That's right. Like if you start there, you have a chance. That's me with UFOs. Huh? That's the, that's my whole UFO take because I clearly, I want them to be real. So I want them to be real so bad. I want them to be real so bad. But the more I walk and look into it, the more I don't believe the real. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think, I think a lot of it is horseshit, a lot of it, but also maybe some of it's real. It's so unsettling to think that we're the only things out there for me that I wanted to, it's like, that can't be.

1:26:58Surely. It doesn't seem like it even makes sense that that's true. So I don't think that that's true. But I do not know if we've been visited, but I think a lot of it is bullshit. I think it's not just bullshit. I think it's probably government coordinated bullshit. I think there's probably sightings that are mass siops where they're trying to see how people react to things. I think there's probably crafts that the United States is in possession of that absolutely look like UFOs. I think there's probably propulsion systems that they use for drones that are infinitely more advanced than we currently think state of the artist.

1:27:34Right. And so they'd say, oh, it's UFO and it's really their technology. But that doesn't account for the sightings that occurred when it was impossible for that technology to exist. That doesn't take you back to like 1950s with Kenneth Arnold where he saw those flying discs moving through the sky, which is where the term flying saucer came from because it was like saucer skipping across the lake. And what about all the people kind of all over the world who have experienced like a similar thing? And why do all the drawings always look the same? Is that just collective conscious? People have seen one and then they think that or is it, you know how they always look like aliens?

1:28:08There's a lot of possibilities. And another possibility is that the world's not real. And we're in a simulation. Yeah, that there's something maybe not maybe saying the world's not real is not the best way to put it. It makes me so like I want to crawl out of my skin. Maybe the best way to put it is that it's not real the way we think it's real. Like there's real consequences to your actions. There's real physical laws that exist in the experience that you're having as a conscious creature moving through this world. But this world's not totally solid all the time. It's solid when you interact with it.

1:28:47But there's the rest of it is vague and weird and malleable and that it's constantly changing and that you wake and sleep and wake and sleep and assume that every time you wake up you're in the same exact area, the same space, the environment looks the same, but it might be a completely different dimension. There might be intertwined realities that are constantly experiencing itself over and over and over again. And then there also might be other dimensions that higher beings have the capability of traversing that we don't and that all these things are they're happening simultaneously with the actual creation of an artificial reality.

1:29:32It seems so real. Yeah, it all seems so real, but it also seems fake. Right? There's some more and more. I'm sure you know the whole barren Trump story, the ancient books that talked about a guy named Elon is going to go to Mars. No, it is so crazy that even Elon saw that is like, is this real? How is this real? Was it from 1853? Why does this have to do with barren Trump? Because it's about a guy named Baron Trump and his guru is named Don. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, his mentor is something like this and I was like Baron Trump's marvelous underground journey. What is this? It's like an old book from it is from 1893.

1:30:19Nearly forgotten Baron Trump's marvelous underground journey blends of science fiction and fantasy in a story told by little Baron Trump and aristocrat boy. There you go. That's what he is who sets out from Castle Trump, which is where he lives to discover a world within a world that he read about in a 15th central manuscript, celebrated thinker and philosophy. He learned Spaniard Don from Don. Don. His guy Don. Yeah. Join Baron Trump and his faithful dog and companion, Bulger. They set off at Northern Russian search. It was portal, it was subterranean. But there's also the other thing they go back to Castle Trump.

1:30:53The other thing about Werner von Braun. So Werner von Braun, who was the head of NASA, wrote a novel, a fictional novel about a guy named Elon that takes us to Mars. Yeah. So there's parts of reality that don't seem real. They seem like a wink, like an Easter egg. Like someone is winking at you through the simulation. I'm just an extra in the simulation. You're a part of it. It's your version of it that you're going through. You are the person who's experiencing your world. I just don't know if your world and my world are exactly the same. Right. I think they're bubbles. I think they're bubbles.

1:31:41And I think the way you interface with the world changes what your bubble consists of. Okay. Yeah. And I think it's all very weird. I don't think it's as simple as that rancher lady thinks when she gets up and feeds her chickens. I think that's her world. Right. That's her world. But I think the universe itself and how we interact consciously with it and all the things around us, I think it's squirrely. I think it's real squirrely. And I think every now and then the universe shows us something like this fucking Werner von Braun book where you go, what the even the name Elon and Mars, like what are the fucking odds?

1:32:23And then it turns out that Elon was actually named by his father when his father read that book. Oh, okay. Which is even, but no, even crazier. Yeah. What is the odds? Your son is going to be the guy who goes to fucking Mars. My, my daughter is obsessed with Mars. And we, we always like know all the planets and it's weird. I have no obsession with Mars, but she's obsessed with the stars of planets. She can point them out at night. She's like, that's Jupiter. That's Mars. Bob, Bob, and we asked her one day we said, where do you, which planet do humans live on? And she said Earth and Mars. And I was like, baby.

1:32:57Well, you saw the square. Yeah. That square on Mars from the photo. Yes, that's real. That's a real photo. That's a real satellite image of Mars where you see a square structure. By the way, it's right down the street. It's like a hike away from Sidonia, the face on Mars. So it's a hike away from that thing that they saw from the, oh God, I want to say it's like the 1970s. They sent a satellite to Mars to take photographs of the surface. And they saw this thing that looked at a face. The face on Mars, though, it seems like what that is is just light with shitty resolution. And it looked like a face.

1:33:35What's interesting more about the face on Mars, so that's the original image. Okay. See, the problem with that is, it's just, it's not clear enough. It could be anything. Yeah. Now, go to the modern images, the face on Mars. You can see them right there. It's right below. See this slide right there. We can just work to the right. To the right. Yeah, right there. Click on that. So that's what it actually looks like. Okay. So you could see how that just looks like a mountain. Yeah. But what's interesting is the shape of it. The shape of it is weird. It curves at the bottom and it's kind of equal sighted.

1:34:08And it goes up to the top and it has right angle turns. So that image of what that thing is, where that's located, is just a small hike away from this immense square that they've discovered. That's 200. They don't know exactly how big it is. But the rough estimate is somewhere around 200 meters across. What do they think it is? It's a structure. That's what I think it is. I don't think it can be anything other than a structure. What does Elon think it is? He thought it's wild. Has he commented on it? I mean, I sent him a text message as an imagine if you go up there and you find evidence of a previous civilization.

1:34:44It's like, that is fucking wild. It's wild because that's a real square. What the? Yeah. Yeah. That just doesn't seem like that would exist. It doesn't seem like it's possible for it to be a perfect square. Yeah, that's crazy. I thought this was fake. No, no, no, no, it's real. It's real. It's very disturbing because that's a fairly high resolution image. And Elon has backed a mission to Mars to go and check that out. They want to check it out. See, there's an article right there from the Daily Mail, Elon backs mission to Mars, where he wants to send something up there to check it out. If you see these images, like, I don't think there's a chance in hell that that's not made by someone.

1:35:26That seems very strange. I don't think that nature makes a square. No, I mean, it's not a rectangle or a square. I mean, what it looks like, is it perfectly square? It might be slightly off, whatever it is, it's four right angle turns that have equal lengths. Can you see the theorists of like in the structure of the great pyramid in Egypt? Hmm. Could sparsey theorists is a nice way to put it. Yeah. How about just people looking at it going, what the fuck is wrong? I know. Why do they always call them conspiracy theorists? Because they're assholes. They're assholes. And they work for the Daily Mail.

1:35:57So it's right down the street from that area, which is really crazy. And what do they think the face is? It's just like a giant stuck in the Mars mission surface. I don't think anybody really thinks it's a face anymore. If you scroll up and look at that image from July 1976, that image, what's interesting to me is not the face, because I don't think it's a face. But what's interesting to me is the shape of the base of it. The shape of the base of it is weird. It's flat on the bottom, equal sided, and domed on the top. It looks unnatural. It doesn't mean it's unnatural. There's a lot of shit that looks unnatural in nature that is actually natural, but not squares.

1:36:30That giant square where it looks like building the civilization there. Yes. Well, the thing is Mars had a real atmosphere. Mars has liquid water. We know it does. And at one point in time, they think that Mars was capable of sustaining life. So if you imagine the planets over time get further and further away from the Sun, if you go back a billion years, how much closer was Mars to the Sun and what was the temperature like? What was the atmosphere like? Yeah. There's people that believe that the initial civilization escaped Mars and came to Earth. What about the moons of Jupiter? Well, there's one.

1:37:15Europa or something? Yeah, Europa that's solid ice and they think underneath that, the surface is solid ice. They think underneath that is liquid water and liquid water is capable of supporting life. So it's possible. Especially when you see those thermal vents that they find the bottom of the ocean that sustains some form of life. There might be some form of life inside the oceans of Europa. Are you joking about all this stuff? No. No, I'm not joking about Mars. No, I mean, are you joking about it on stage? I used to have this whole bit about Mars, but there's places in America that you can't live to.

1:37:48Go to Death Valley, look around, sucks, right? No one lives here. That's because it sucks. Get out of here. You're not going to fix that and you're going to go to fix Mars. I mean, I know just that. The whole planet has no air. Yeah, no, it's not appealing to me at all. Some people, you watch these documentaries and they're like, I think of Mars like my second home and I want to go live there. I'm like, it's not a war. They also think they're a cat. I'm also a foxkin. Space just feels claustrophobic to me, even though it's vast and like until you can build things that make it feel a little more like I just don't like, I don't want to get in a tube and go live in a, do you have a silo?

1:38:28No, I have a watch set. I love silo. I love anything that's like post apocalyptic show where people are living in an in a waste lander and some weird and they're underground in all these silos and they all have to live and there's people at the bottom and it's really, but it's like definitely or like they've never seen the sun. They've never seen the sky. You know, it's like they've had an alternate history that's been kind of told to them. Jesus. Yeah. Yeah, that's all possible. Yeah, that's like a post nuclear world. Like when the AI gets smart and nukes us all. Yeah, but how are we going to get vitamin D down there?

1:39:07It's not good. They have like plants and trees and vitamin D from plants. Yeah, it's, I don't know. Do you, are you, now that you like burned the boat and all of your stuff, are you just kind of having fun rebuilding? What do you mean? Like you, now that you just like did all your material. Oh, stand up once. Yeah, just having fun. Yeah. Just trying to come up with a new hour and fucking around. It's so fun. Yeah. It's, you know, it's a weird time for comedy. Do you think? Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's really good time for comedy. Well, yeah, I feel like it's a great time. Yeah, there's so much information.

1:39:44But it's weird time too, because you know, like the center of comedy is now moved to Texas. It's awesome. So that's weird. That's a crazy thing. That's your phone. And it's also moved online, which is also a crazy thing. Like the main promotional aspect of comedy is now online. I heard Jesselneck talking about this about being like a clips comic. Like he was, he was, I saw a clip of him going around talking about being a clips comic and how ironic. Yeah. It's very meta. It was, but he was talking about how before people would recognize him like the, in the old ways. And now people wreck it. It's like a different, he said it's like a different level of fame from when he was famous before, just for stand up.

1:40:26Now he's like the clips guy. But I think like everyone's, that's like everyone, right? It's just a different medium. It's all it is. I've talked to, it's been, it's no different than you being on some comedy central show. It's just way more impactful. I've talked to a lot of people about how the like videos, the, you know, the like crowdwork videos have changed crowds. Oh, because now crowds think they're helping you by chiming in. And so it's like actually most, because it's some crazy percentage of people who have never been to a comedy show at, at a comedy show, like a very high percentage of people have never been to a comedy show at every comedy show.

1:41:05Isn't that weird? It's, it's like quite high. Interesting, right? And so they're accustomed to seeing like, like that crowdwork stuff. And so they think they're actually helping you by heckling so that you can get your, I don't think they think they're helping you. I think they want to be heard. They want to be. And they want to, that's the way they get in. I'm helping. You just want to chime in. Yeah. I saw some video clip of some lady losing her shit on some guy in the audience. Oh, I saw this. Yeah. It's very weird. And everyone was like, this is amazing. It's not really amazing. I was like, it seems like a, like a upsetting.

1:41:42It's also not very well handled. Like the whole experience is not expertly. There's not a lot of humor in there. You know. People love it. They're like, well, yeah, this is comedy. It's subjective, I guess. Some people look at that. Well, that's not comedy. That's just talking people talking. Yeah. One person with a microphone in power and one person in the audience, it's like challenging that and give me the microphone and it's, fuck you. And you know, it's wild like the clips thing. The clips are like feeding, feeding the algorithm is freaking. It's such a crazy thing to me. Well, that's with everything, right?

1:42:17Clips from podcasts are way more popular than the podcasts themselves. Yeah. So many clips go viral on, you know, X and you think TikTok is going to be banned? No. No. No. No, keep it. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think so. The fucking president uses it. I met the fucking CEO, TikTok, when I was at the inauguration. What was that like? Like being in Satan's balls. Where? Just going to the actual fucking inauguration. The actual house of government being in the actual buildings where all this stuff gets done, it's very, very strange. How are we there? A couple days. And so you went to the, like some of the balls, the balls.

1:43:03Yeah. Was it like Hunger Games? Like what? It's like really rich entitled people that donated a lot of money. Uh -huh. They just like jump in front of you to take pictures with you. They don't care who you're talking to. They don't care. Everybody was like super pushy. It's all very transactional. Everybody needs to get on your podcast and needs to talk to you about a thing and you have to get this part. And it's like everything's exhausting and everybody's wealthy. And they're also, they spend a lot of money to get there. Like a lot of those people, they donated like a million dollars. Holy shit.

1:43:33So there's like tons of thousands of people who donated a million dollars. Just to be there. Just to be there. And they're all fucking just super enthusiastic because their team just won. And it's the inauguration of the president and Kid Rocks there and everybody was going crazy. And it was fun for a while. It was me and Tony Hinchcliffe and Theo Vaughn and Logan Paul was there. Oh yeah, I saw that. And Jake Paul. And we were all having a good old time. We were laughing and having fun. And then too many people just started swarming us. And then it was just like you're dealing with like 10 ,000 people in this room and you can't move.

1:44:11You can't go anywhere. Right. And it got crazy. You couldn't have a conversation. You just tried to get out of there. Was the inauguration like movie? Was it, did you, fascinating? Was it weird to be part of all that like comp and, oh yeah, it was very weird. Very weird. Were you in the main, oh, I was on the stage. I was on the fifth row. Oh. I was like right there. I was on the work. Like a man Thorne Sanchez's tits. Yeah. I could have thrown a pebble and hit Hillary Clinton in the head. They were right there. It was weird. It's first of its weird watching like Bill Clinton walk into a room.

1:44:49He's real. That's him. Yeah. All the shit that guy's escaped. And there he is right there. Oh, T .V. Hey, how you doing? Good to say. You're good to say. You're good to say. Weird. It's weird. It's weird seeing those people. It's really like you in there. I know. But ever in situations like that, I'm like, why are they letting me in here? They should know better. I thought of that a little, but you know, it's cool. It was weird. Yeah. You don't only get to be at one of those maybe once in your life if you're really lucky, especially that one which was indoors because it was insanely cold outside.

1:45:26Yeah. Yeah. That seems like probably better for security. Oh, yeah. It was cold. It was cold. That is fuck outside too. Definitely better for security. But it was very cold outside and windy and shit. Is it weird to be like, I don't know. I was looking at all the people up there and it was just, it seems like it's so much, I don't know. It seems like it's just like, is everyone kissing the ring? Does it feel kind of like, you know what I mean? Is it like, I don't know. Does it feel kind of gross or is it, if it wasn't like cool? Well, it feels strange, right? It feels strange that it's real. It also feels strange that we're standing up because there's a standing ovation every like 15 seconds.

1:46:09We're going to turn the Gulf of Mexico and the Gulf of America. We're all standing up. Fuck yeah. We're going to do that. Woo. It's fun watching George Bush. George Bush was the only guy who happened. He was having a good time. All the other presidents look deeply disturbed. Yeah. Do you have Kamala Harris had this like, this motherfucker look on her face the entire time. Like she sat there like this the entire time. Well, I mean very upset. Obviously. Well, also he's talking about how bad they sucked and she lost. And they're right there. It's just a sit there. And she's sitting right next to Biden who's not there.

1:46:43He's just gone. Yeah. Yeah. And then behind them is Obama and George W. That's why, man. Yeah. I was like, I hope there's like a, you know, what's that called when there's like the extra person or whatever the, the designated survivor. I'm like, yeah, because there are a lot of people you get a really fuck America up right now. Yeah. Yeah. I think they're aware of that. I think there's probably steps taken to make sure that the skies are clear. Yeah. But it's very strange, but also kind of exciting. Because like if he really does get to do all this stuff, like if we really do see radical changes, it seems like that's what's happening.

1:47:22And if Bobby Kennedy really does get in, and if Tulsi Gabbard really does get in, like this is a crazy time. This is like an unprecedented cabinet of people that are kind of unified and all know each other. They're all friends, you know. And it's also kind of bipartisan like RFK Jr. But it's, he got so many people over. I know so many people who were not going to vote for Trump. But then when he kind of brought RFK Jr. over, they're like, all right. Yeah. I mean, if he's there and Tulsi too, they were, they were libs. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't, I don't know that that must have been pretty. I. It's bizarre.

1:48:01It seemed like I was like, that must be so surreal to be there because it was surreal to watch it just like when you think about the fact that he nearly got killed like the whole sequence of events that led to that moment. Yeah. What the debate where he just like fell apart and it just was surreal to watch. So I was wondering like that must be pretty bonkers to be there. And then he should have seen Biden his face the entire time like they look, you looked upset. Like almost like he was going to cry at one point in time. He looks so upset at the whole. I think he thinks he could have won. Do you have any fears about it?

1:48:39Like what about the Riviera? Oh, the Gaza thing. The Riviera. The Riviera of the Middle East. You did such a good impression. I thought that could. It's a, yeah, I mean, what's the alternative to that happening? What's all, they're saying no US military will be there. The United States is going to clean it up, rebuild it, give it to the Palestinians, make it safe. Oh, okay. Get rid of a moss. I mean, the thing is what Palestinians want is a state. Yeah. They want their own state. And this is like a step sort of away from that. Yeah. Now it'll be that section of the, that area is now controlled by the United States.

1:49:17What the fuck? And Greenland. And we're getting Greenland. The question is like what's the better option? Like give it to Hamas. What's the better option? Give it to the Palestinians and they give it to the Islamic state. Like who, who gets it? I'm not smart enough for any of this. Also, how did you let it happen in the first place? Like what, how did this administration let them just bomb the fucking shit out of all those people? Yeah. And blow up an entire city to the point where you, you could even feasibly say that you would rebuild it. Because it's not like before this had happened, if anybody had ever said the United States is going to go into the, to the, to Gaza and completely rebuild it and make it the United States, everybody like fuck you.

1:49:57You need to give that to Palestine. But once you blow it up, you're like, wow, I guess there's nothing left. Like people are pushing back against it. Yeah. So a lot of people are upset, but not as upset as they would if they didn't blow it up. Oh, that's weird. Yeah. Because it's, it's weird. It's horrible. And we've just accepted the fact that this is what Israel did. And you know, for 1200 people and 250 hostages, they killed 60 ,000 people. Is that the actual number? Is that a mass number? I don't know what the number is. Yeah. What's the current number of people that are dead in Gaza right now?

1:50:31It's such a weird thing too. Because Israel, I feel like, has to like not win a war, which is a weird thing where they have to like, they're in a position where they already won the war. I mean, what war is one army? Is one army and some terrorists? It's like Bill Hicks joke about Iraq. I guess only a war when there's two armies fighting. They're like, whoa, Bill, Iraq's the fourth largest army. He goes, yeah, well, after the top two is a huge drop off. He's like the Salvation Army is number three. I don't want there to be war. I think most people agree on that. Of course, but also we don't live in Israel, right?

1:51:05We don't have to live with the Iron Dome because missiles are being shot into your city. And you watch them explode up in the sky because your military has these rockets that shoot up in the sky and missiles take these fucking missiles out. Yeah, I think about like, if it was my daughter that was like in some tunnel, I would be like, there'd be no lengths. Well, that's, you know, I know that's very like selfish of me, but that is on a personal level. I'm like, I can't even imagine how I would feel in that situation as a parent. Of course. Well, that's the deepest conspiracy theory about why it happened in the first place.

1:51:41It's because Netanyahu was losing power and people were protesting against him in the streets and what better way to get everybody on your side than to allow an attack to take place. That's the darkest of the false flag conspiracy. I have a lot of people that I know who now think 9 -11 was an inside job after October 7th. Oh, Jesus. Isn't that crazy? Like that, they're like, well, if they would do it here, they would do it. Like why wouldn't they do it in America? It's been like this kind of reverse leap. Yeah. Well, anytime you have a big tragedy, like 9 -11, you're always going to have a bunch of wild theories.

1:52:18But some of them are interesting. You know, like, you're supposed to dismiss them all because they're conspiracy theories, but tower 7 is like, explain that. I can't. I have people in my life who are very much like truth. I think truth or as I think about this. That's a weird one. That's a weird one. What's the conspiracy around tower 7? Just how did it? Why did it? Well, it collapses like a controlled demolition completely into its base. No buildings have ever done that before without being a controlled demolition. And it doesn't have all the signature aspects of a controlled demolition. Like, if you ever watch like when they blow up one of them Vegas casinos, super obvious.

1:53:03It's like bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, and it all collapses. It doesn't have that, but it does have something similar in that the effect is the same. So is it possible to do that without having it the way the casinos do it? Is there only one way to have a controlled demolition of a building? Or is it possible that just immense diesel fires weaken the structure uniformly in such a weird way that it collapsed exactly like a controlled demolition, but it's just the results of the coincidence. Yeah, they had diesel generators in the basement of that thing and the whole fucking inside of it was on fire.

1:53:40So when you see it on the outside, you only see a little bit of fire in some holes, but the entire inside of it was inflamed. We're living in a simulation. Maybe that. Maybe that's another wink. Maybe that's another fucking... We didn't have social media though. Thank God. Right. During that, can you imagine? No, but we did have plenty of people that were questioning it once they saw it on television because you saw it on TV and you're like, what is that? Yeah. How does that do that? Do you remember seeing... That wasn't even hit by a plane. Do you remember seeing the skyline the first time you went to New York?

1:54:09Oh, without the twin towers. I don't think I actually saw it. I took it. I went back in 2001. I was there in 2001. Yeah. Maybe 2002. It was probably like a couple of months after... I took a train in November and in and because I took the train in, I always just take this train in from Rhode Island where I was and it was like... Like, I was just... It was so jarring seeing... They were so part of that. There was so huge. Yeah, and just part... You just took it for granted. That was the like, landscape and it was... I'll never forget it. How do you know? I thought it was weird too that when they rebuilt it, they didn't make it as tall.

1:54:47Why didn't they? Oh. It's only one building now. It's not two. I know. And it's not as tall. Like, it's pretty tall. But they didn't get crazy. Then we're going to make the biggest fucking building the world ever seen. You know, like a middle finger to the world. Trump was there, but we're going to have two buildings on the side and one right up your ass. It's like, fuck you. It looks like that. It is... It's smaller. It's smaller than the original buildings. I do wonder like... I'm so curious about what it's going to be like for our kids. Yeah, that's what it looks like now. Yeah. Is it the tallest building in the US?

1:55:25Yeah, but it's not as tall, right? I don't know what that was. I think it's shorter. No, if it's shorter than a... Still the tallest building. The World Trade Center wasn't the tallest building. No, not in the world. No, in the US even. Oh, wasn't? My The Sears Tower was bigger. Really? Yeah, 100%. Where's The Sears Tower? Chicago. That's taller than the World Trade Center? It was. Whoa. Now this is the top. I didn't know that. Yeah. The Sears Tower was the tallest building in the world for a while. So the Twin Towers were taller than the Sears Tower? They were shorter. They were shorter. Yeah, I don't know why you're saying that, I guess.

1:56:02Oh, it's the same... Oh, it has the same name as the North Tower, other original. How tall is it? It is shorter though, right? Isn't it? I don't know that. See, the Willis Tower was the tallest one. I remember people being upset when they were rebuilding it because it wasn't going to be as tall. 1776. So 110 stories was the original one and the tower was 1 ,350 feet. Hi. How tall is the one now? 1626. So it's taller? Yep. Really? Yeah. Wait a minute. Really? I don't. Can I see the image again? I don't know where else you're going to go with this one. No, no, no. Is it because they cheat with that big pole at the top?

1:56:48I mean, that's the honor. They do that with all of them. The other one had a big pole on top too. But that isn't that to stop lightning bolts? Some of it. Some of it's antenna stuff, but... Some of it's talked to aliens. Some of it's talked to some tower. That's okay. I'm wrong. I thought it was shorter. Maybe what it was saying, they were saying it's smaller because there's only one set of two. The Spire makes it 1776. The Spire. Yeah, how tall is that one? That's part of the Spire. The Spire of the World Trade Center. I never saw this. They're saying that's what made Tower 7 fall. It made a gash.

1:57:21What? What made a gash? The Spire on the Tower here. So it made a gash down the side and started a fire here. And Tower 7, I've never seen this video. Interesting. I was just looking through it to see what... Well, that's one thing with the video that we saw that you'll... Oh, look at that. Interesting. I don't think they have a natural video of that happening. Oh, it fell and it fucked up the building. But still. Still. Why didn't it just fall into that side? Why does it compress into its base? The way it collapses. I've never seen anybody adequately describe it. But one thing that people should know is that the top of it collapsed before the whole thing collapsed.

1:58:05There was this piece on the top. So the roof caved in first. There was a smaller structure on top of the roof that imploded and went through the base. And then the whole thing went under. So it wasn't like it all went in one shot. The top of it had already collapsed and went through. That was such a weird time in America. I was thinking about how... Just catatonic I was on the couch recently. Just... That whole week afterwards. Right. Just nobody... I know. Because it's weird. Like I have family members who have kids and their kids are now like they were born right around that time. They were one, two years old.

1:58:47They've grown up. They don't remember kind of what it was like before that. And they... I don't know. I feel like the world... I have a friend and he's like, everything went to shit after 9 -11. Everything just got shittier. Well, everything did go to shit because that's when they passed the Patriot Act. Yeah. And that's when the government really got its hooks into your information. Let me show you a clarification here. New one, 1776, 541 meters tall. Old one. With the Spyro, 1730 boat was 17... Or 1368 without the Spyro. Oh, okay. The Spyro adds... Without the antenna, the building was 417 meters tall.

1:59:24So I think you were close. Okay. You were saying right there. So it's not much different though. I thought it was a lot different. Like 10 stories or something shit. So it's 104 floors. And the other one was 110 floors. And I don't know how many basement floors I don't know. Also it's like how tall are the floors. You know, I hope this one doesn't... Do you think this administration is going to try and get rid of the Patriot Act? No. No. Why would they do that? I think they have those tools and power to actually... They'll use it as an excuse to go get terrorists. Yeah, but haven't we all wanted to get rid of it for a long time?

2:00:05Yeah. Well, then they have the Patriot Act 2, which is even more invasive. Yeah. Yeah. But people... Like that seems like a bipartisan thing. Somebody could get behind. Maybe. But the real Neocons will come out and say that we can's us against our enemies. We need this power to be able to find terrorists and be able to search out. I mean, that was one of the things that the Obama administration, when they passed the NDAA, you know, we're not going to do it. We're not going to just like detain people indefinitely. We wouldn't do it. But the problem is you're giving the law, that law is now in the books and now the next person.

2:00:45What if it's a psycho? And the person after that, what if it's a psycho? Right. Now you've given them power to become a dictator and go after their political enemies, which normal people won't do, right? You guys don't do that, right?

2:01:00I mean, it's going to be a wild four years, I think, because I did think that like the I figured I figured I thought maybe that people would understand that they were wrong and that like maybe they'd gone too far and I was... And it seems like hysteria. I don't think people learn that good. I think people learn by having their lives ruined and getting really angry. Right. And then they change course. But I think the people that are still comfortable and still working in these environments that still cling to these ideas, they're going to double down and wear a pussy hat and fuck your paint through hair blue and protesting the streets.

2:01:42I don't have to ask all this. It's so weird because I was thinking about how I've now been ten years in the culture wars. Which is not... I mean, I kind of stumbled into them. Are you a sergeant now? What are you? I don't know. Yeah, I'm a... Are you a general? I don't know what I am. I've been... But it has been a weird decade to be... I didn't want to... I think so many normies are like me. They just got kind of forced into being in them. It wasn't like I wanted... I was like a drunk waitress who just wanted to tell jokes. Yeah. That... And then I started writing for Playboy and next thing I know...

2:02:24I'm voting for Trump. Well, you know, as a drunk waitress, you're one of us. You're a human. And humans... There's a lot of people that have opinions and ideas on things. They're just not good at articulating it or they never learned how to articulate it. But everybody does what we do. Or everybody can do what we do. They do with their friends. They talk with their friends. Yeah. They bullshit about stuff. And you know, it's just a process of putting it out there. We've had... I've had some weird YouTube strikes that I'd say, yes, it's easy to do except I've had to play 10 years of a game of like outrunning sensors and like Patreon.

2:03:06Okay, we're there. And then we've got to get off there because I don't want to put all my eggs in that basket in case they go bonkers and shut it down. And then I feel like you're like a lot of people in this space have been for like a decade out. You know, we're like, how are we going to... We got like the dumbest strike on an old ad of ours. And it was something that we said. And then you have to go to like, you know, like, you've got to go to like class and get reeducated. Jamie got reeducated. What? Didn't you, Jamie, feel better right now, right? What? You feel smarter? No, you got reeducated, but you do?

2:03:37What did you get reeducated for? What's part of YouTube? You got reeducated. Sure, I guess. Didn't you, when we had a strike, you had to do the little classes. Oh, that's for talking about it. He's like, what reeducation? He got reeducated. He's different. He's better now. Yeah, because we tell factual information about COVID -19. And so you got a strike? Yeah, it was because it was like a long time ago. Oh, but ours is weird because it was like a very old episode. So they might be like trolling. I don't know what they're doing. They're probably just using their algorithm and going after everything.

2:04:09Our literally we said, think for yourself and come to your own conclusions. Oh, that's dangerous. That was the ad, it wasn't even ours on our podcast. I guess there's an ad reviewer going for someone else's podcast. Shouldn't give that advice out. People shouldn't be doing that. But this is why it's hard for people to just like say what they want, you know, well, what do you think is going to happen when you're looking at all this crazy shit right now with Doge and the uncovering of USAID and this dismantling of this bizarre left wing ecosystem that's pretty much manufactured. Like what do you, what do you see is going to happen with the rest of the country?

2:04:47I mean, look, there, there are a lot of people who did not vote for Trump, you know, they're he won and yes, he won every three state and the country's a lot of people. Yeah, it's a lot of people. So and I'm not sure how many of them, I wonder how many, so I have a couple questions. How many people didn't vote for Trump and wanted to and are secretly glad he won? I bet there's a pretty significant number of those people who either didn't vote or didn't vote for him, but wanted him to win anyway. Ari says that. Ari says that New York City is like relaxed. Yeah. It's like everybody was relaxed after the election, like even the liberals like.

2:05:21Yeah, thank God. They're like, woo. Yeah, like thank you God. You saved me for myself. Yeah, exactly. Because God doing for us what we can't do for ourselves. Yeah. So there's that I wonder, but then I do wonder how many the people are, what I worry about is how much mental this is where I get mad at the media for presenting this like this is Hitler. We're having it notched up to 11 for the past eight years. And now you've got this because he was put in, it's almost like that, that that energy has been transferred to Elon now. Because now that you see the Elon protests, they're protesting Elon.

2:06:02They're literally standing out there with signs that say arrest Elon Musk. Listen, I guarantee it's organized. I guarantee it's organized by the same people that are going to lose a shitload of money based on all these discoveries at Doge. There's no way they're not. If you look at what Doge is uncovering, what they're uncovering with this USAID stuff, a lot of that stuff was organizing through NGOs protests. They organized the attempt at getting Trump impeached. I never gonna say, Cal. They organized the impeachment. That's come out. They also spent USAID spent $50 million on the lab that invented coronavirus.

2:06:41Right. Yeah, there's a lot of money involved in this not working. And when you have a lot of money involved, you're going to have organized protest. When you see protests, we all want to think protests like the 1960s. Yeah, fight the war, man. It's like organic, like peace love and hippie shit. But that's not what this is. What this is is organized funded protests. Where someone is spending a lot of money and they're mobilizing other NGOs. They're using their access to these mailing lists and all these different things. They're putting these things together. Yeah, but do you think that the average liberal person, do you think that they're going to wake up and come around?

2:07:22Or do you think that they're going to be in agony for four years and be? What if it works? What if the world gets safer, the country gets safer, the economy improves, and they don't attack civil rights, women's rights, gay rights, all these things that everybody's worried about. And then at the end of it, you realize, hey, maybe I was wrong. I mean, that's my question, though. Are they capable of that kind of self -reflection? Well, we're saying they is if it's like one different kind of person. No, I mean, they... So many different people in day. Agreed. I mean, when I say they, I mean people who have bought into the idea that this person is going to make everything worse and we're going to slip into a fascist technology.

2:08:07Some of them... Some of them are going to slip right into it. Some of them are going to wake up and come around. It's a test. It's a test of character. It's a test of objectivity. It's a test of introspection. There's a lot of things that are going to happen where people are going to have to wonder, like what was I rooting for? When I was rooting for this progressive liberal government, what was I actually rooting for? Was I rooting for war mongers who were making insane amounts of profit by funding overseas wars? What was I rooting for? Was I rooting for a basic theft of our tax dollars that's gone to all these completely useless endeavors that were only set up as ways to pill for money?

2:08:50Or the fall of America. This is a weird thing to hate your own country so much that you wanted to fall or the dismantling of the life, the kind of West, as we know it. I think there is a feeling that Elon might have saved the West. Yeah. I feel like at least he's trying to. I think he did, but just by buying X. But isn't it funny that he got forced into it? I think there's something kind of ironic. Because he was trying to get it at a lower price because he knew that they were bullshitting about the amount of bots. Well, and then they came out yesterday and now it's profitable. There was a whole article about how he turned it around.

2:09:34Of course, it's going to be profitable. He is smarter. He also knows we are all tapped in. Oh, I can't stop it. I have it. I've always had a Twitter addiction. It's the thing that replaced my drinking and smoking weed when I quit that. I went right to Twitter. I was like, Elon knows none of these motherfuckers even when they go to Blue Sky. They've all got secret accounts and they're lurking on Twitter still or X still or whatever. You can't live in that echo chamber. That Blue Sky echo chamber. You can't even go on there and say there's only two genders. If you go on there and say there's two genders, they ban you immediately.

2:10:09They're really eating themselves within two days over there. That's what always happens. That's happened with GAB too, right? I think some of that is not even real because I personally know comics who go on Blue Sky and just say insane leftist stuff. Just the most preposterous thing. Maybe Duncan would do. I'm not saying Duncan doesn't, but he might do it. I know comics that do that just to see the reaction. Now people agree with them. Insane stuff. Oh, okay. My toddler, I could tell when my toddler was trans when they were three days old. And people agree with that. Oh, yeah. Jump right in. Don't you think we're all in echo chambers though?

2:10:45Like you said, how do you stay outside of yours? Drugs. Oh, that's true. That's what. No, I'm kidding. You just got to be recognized like you're thinking. You have to have a process. What's your process? I live by the Joe Rogan School of Interneting. That is that. I take all your advice. I don't read the comments and I post in ghosts. That's good. I don't like get in there and... That's good. I definitely do that. And then I think of like, what do I really think about something? And why do I think about it that way? And I try to go out there because it's self -serving. Is it because I've said it in the past that I want to be right?

2:11:24Is it, what is it? You know, like what makes me believe what I believe? And then you have to do a deep dive in all the goddamn arguments back and forth to figure out who's right. And all the logic and see people ignoring certain core facts. Like this is the most fascinating thing about this USA thing to me is how people on the left are completely ignoring all the rampant, obvious corruption and conflicts of interest in the government funding, non -government organizations that in turn fund the government. That's so crazy. And anybody that doesn't think that's crazy, it's like what do you love money influencing everything in your daily life?

2:12:05Don't you think that maybe we have a problem in that we have a huge deficit? And if part of our huge deficit, we're spending fucking billions of dollars every year on horse shit? Yeah. I mean, that is my issue with people being like, see, it is the like political thing isn't right, which is true. It's important to be accurate. But it's also like, yeah, but there's this money shouldn't be spent this way. So just because this thing is maybe not true, you're pointing to this one thing that could be people are misrepresenting, but there's a much bigger problem you seem to want to just sweep under the rug and say, oh, like you guys are just crazy for noticing all these connections.

2:12:43But didn't they make them stop or something? Did they freeze their ability? Yeah, these kids are nuts. That guy who like, you know, found the scroll, how to read the scroll from Pompeii? From Pompeii, yeah, using AI. Yeah. Yeah, no, they're wizards. That's the kind of people that you want digging into this stuff. And that's why Elon got them. He knows the fuck he's doing. It's all very strange because you're dealing with so many things that are happening at the same time. You have this technology that was never available before that is allowing people to freely express themselves online, right?

2:13:19And then you have this maniac billionaire who buys the biggest one and makes it the Wild West again. And then you have government being exposed for what it is. So you have all these fucking NGOs, this web of, we talked about yesterday, this web of 55 ,000 different NGOs that were supporting all these liberal causes that were all completely intertwined. And they had to use software to find that and they figured it out. Yeah, they're finding out that this is like this complicated propaganda network that existed. Like that's not good. No, that's not good for anybody left or right because it's money.

2:13:54It's just money being used in a way. Not only that, here's the thing. Like people like say like the $10 billion, it's only $10 billion. So like that kind of shit. What about the fucking people in Maui? What about that could have been fixed with $5 billion. The government could have said we are going to rebuild those people's homes to the exact state and even better than where they were before. It's going to cost us $5 billion. All the money that we're sending over to Ukraine, all the money that we sent it Israel, all the money we sent to all these different organizations that work with USAID in the tune of billions and billions of billions of dollars.

2:14:30They could have done that. And instead of doing that, they're telling us that what we have to do is continue to fund all these programs and all these other countries that just so conveniently have a whole staff of people that's making a great wage and their political capital is bet on all this stuff and it all is involved with intertwined with these NGOs and all this money that they're getting. And this is the thing we have to go and help these people. We're going to starve. They're going to do this. They're going to do that. What about America? Yeah, and then you have like our tax dollars going into a safety net to help people from one of the worst wildfires in history.

2:15:07Or North Carolina. Or North Carolina. Yeah. Exactly the same thing. Yeah. Apparently none of those people have gotten any money in North Carolina. No, and they're like sleeping in fricking tents in the freezing cold. Exactly. All that could have been addressed to the same way we address problems in other countries. So if you have this amazing slush fund, the USA it is and it's not being applied at all to the problems of America, why would you think people would support it? Yeah. Why would we support it with our tax dollars when we know that the country is massively in debt? Well, and it's like I appreciate that there are so many problems.

2:15:41I think people, I do feel like for the first time ever there is an actual transfer of power. Like every single election through my lifetime it's been, there's been all the normal fighting between the two parties and then the election happens and one party wins and then nothing changes. Yeah. And you just keep sliding and sliding and sliding and sliding and everybody says they're going to do something and no one does anything. And then you have fucking Elon come in like a wrecking ball and a very motivated and Trump with who seems organized this time and they actually feel like they're making changes, changes that by the way, American people want.

2:16:24They're like the border. They change. They fix the border overnight. I know. Over night. The looking into, my friend Max Meyer was saying he's a very smart guy. He was saying no one with any numerical ability has ever looked into Medicare and Medicaid fraud ever. Like, no, that's where they're cracking into net. There's a lot of money there. But it's like provider side fraud where it's just inflated. When's that sunny hostens husband? Is he involved in a rico lawsuit? Oh, I don't know. About insurance fraud? The view person? Uh huh. Yeah. I have no idea. I've always been got arrested. Oh really?

2:16:59Yeah. He's one of 200 people charged in some gigantic insurance fraud. There's a lot of that. What is that? What's the actual story behind that? Jamie's on it. Yeah, but they're so, they can take it. I mean, you know how complicated it would be to try and untangle that web of where you're inflating things that people have and you're saying this is like a band. You see these things online where it's like a band date is $25 ,000. You know, like what? Someone explained that to me too is that when you have a budget, say if you run an organization and has a budget, get money from the government and that budget's like $80 million a year, you can't spend 60 because then you're going to get it 60 next year.

2:17:39You have to spend all 80. If you don't spend all 80, you don't get it. You got to say we need 90. Right. We're barely hanging on it. Right. And so you have to charge like a $500 ,000 for a hammer. And that's literally how they justify their existence is the key they're not in the business of being frugal and being responsible and making sure that the money is being spent competently. No, they're in the business of keeping their budget coming in. Sonny Hostin, surgeon husband and man, faces solo battle in lawsuit as co -defendant's agreed to settle, oh, Jesus. So okay. Sonny Hostin's surgeon husband was found himself in a hot seat in a massive lawsuit accusing the early 200 healthcare providers of insurance fraud.

2:18:23Dr. Emmanuel Hostin defiantly called himself the victim of a frivolous smear campaign last month after he was accused of providing fraudulent medical services in exchange for kickbacks and a complaint filed by American Transit Insurance Company in December. Orthopedic surgeon now finds himself increasingly isolated after the vast majority of the defendants have now offered to settle their cases. Oh boy. According to a new court filing obtained by DailyMail .com, American Transit which ensures taxi cab taxi company and UGRA lift drivers announced last Monday more than a 141 of the 186 defendants named in the suit have agreed in principle to settle one of the largest Rico cases ever filed in New York.

2:19:06The papers filed by the law marketing law firm ManningCast did not specify which defendants offered to settle. Dr. Hostin has until February 10 to respond to the legal complaint. So it has something to do with drives from the hospital and kickbacks from all this shit. Yeah, it's because they're so that's what they need though is these guys who can use this AI technology to get in there and start looking on a massive scale at what all of these everything. I mean, they have to look at everything. I think most Americans want this. So they're being accused of getting kickbacks for performing surgeries and submitting fraudulent bills.

2:19:49Hostin knowingly provided this is in quotes knowingly provided fraudulent medical and other health care services, including orthoscopic surgeries. The lawsuit filed on December 17 claims American Transit was then billed in exchange for kickbacks and or other compensation which were disguised as dividends or other cash distributions. I don't know how they know this. So I don't I don't want to comment on this. I don't really understand what this is. This might be bullshit. It might be real. But I do know that doctors, but this happens all the time. I mean, maybe not this, but there's provider side fraud that is very well known and people have been called out for it.

2:20:27There's a doctor that I was just watching this whole thing on where he, I think it was 200 people he treated. It might have been more that did not have cancer and he gave them chemotherapy. Oh my God. Yeah. He falsely diagnosed them as having cancer and then treated them with cancer. Yeah. And some of them got really sick and died. Well, yeah. It's chemo. Yeah, it's chemo. It's fucking killing you and directs your health. So even if you survive it, like your body's wrecked for a long time afterwards. And did he do this just for money? For money. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And his argument was that this term that they always use, you eat what you kill and then you have to, like, you have to have a business.

2:21:09You have to keep your business rolling. So his business was making sure that people thought they had cancer and then treating them for cancer. That's dark. Well, that's cancer and chemotherapy is one of those weird ones where the doctor's profit of each chemotherapy. Oh, do they? Yeah. 34 million dollars in fraudulent, a Detroit area, hematologist, oncologist was sentenced today to serve 45 years in prison for his role in a healthcare fraud scheme that included in demonstrating medically unnecessary infusions or injections to, oh, it's 553 individual patients and submitting to Medicare and Providence Service companies approximately 34 million dollars in fraudulent.

2:21:46This is the fucking sickest thing I've ever heard. You tell these people to have cancer and make them get chemo. I know. This is insane. I can't believe I've never heard of this. Yeah. It's really crazy. It's like a decade ago. Wow. This is fucking nuts. How do they catch him? I don't know. That's wild. Yeah. But no. That's so sick. I know people that have told me that they know people that have done surgeries that were unnecessary. Yeah, because they want money. Just for money. They want money. Well, that's like the whole like trans cares. Like, you know, a lot of it. But not just that. Orthopedic surgeries.

2:22:23I have friends. And back surgeries and stuff. Doctors that won't let someone try stem cells that try to deny people's stem cells. So yeah, the back surgery. Because they want to do orthopedic surgery. Well, it can help some people, but it's not the only solution. And there's other ways to fix your back. I always tell people that you should, there's a lot of different ways to fix back issues. I've had back issues. I didn't have surgery. I was told to have surgery. I had a bulging disk in my neck. I was told that I had to have to dissect me. I did not. My neck is perfect. It works great. How did you fix that?

2:22:56I did regent. I had a panachine. Regentachine is, it's like a very advanced form of platelet, which plasma. They used to have to go to Germany to get. I remember like Peyton Manning and Kobe Bryant and those guys. They flew to Germany to get this procedure done. And Dana White did it too. And then they opened up a place in Santa Monica. You were, you could do it in Santa Monica and I had it done. I had it done on my back. I had it done on my neck. It's amazing. They take your blood. They spin in a centrifuge. They forget what the exact process they do. And then they pull out this liquid that is the most potent anti -inflammatory inflammation drug that you could ever find.

2:23:32So this anti -inflammation drug, it's made out of your own blood so your body doesn't reject it. This process that they do. And then they inject it in the areas around the disks and the disks all settled and they went right back into place. Wow. So I had it done on my lower back. I had it done on my upper back and I had it done on my neck. See, I think that this is where I'm excited about AI and stuff like that. It would be exciting to have AI cure cancer, which they think that it might be able to do. Yeah. I saw that Larry Ellison thing. I was like, yeah, are you making money doing this? Well, obviously, I don't know if Larry is Larry Ellison saying that.

2:24:10Why are you doing that? Are you doctor? Do you own the knife? What are you doing? It seems like it's not outside the realm of possibility that AI would get smart. It's hard enough to figure this shit out. 100%. Yeah, it is possible for sure. And it's very hopeful. But I don't know if we should be telling people that it could do that maybe in the future so invest in my company or whatever the fuck's going on. I was at this crazy boondoggle and I saw a bunch of these people talk and everybody was clapping and I was like, this is the scariest shit I've ever heard. And I think it might have been Sam who was talking Altman.

2:24:45And everybody was just like, yay, let's give him money. And they all just stop money. Everyone sees money here. And the gold hells, I mean, we're going to need to build nuclear. We're going to need to power this shit. There's a lot of gold in those hills. And I was in the back with this guy and I'm like, someone needs to stop it. Like it was fucking. To the beginning of a trip. So down my spine. Yeah, it's going to happen though. You can't stop it. No. Unless the grid goes down or something. Unless there is something catastrophic asteroid hits the earth, whatever, which I think there might be one coming.

2:25:22There is nothing we can do. The genies out of the bottle. Well not just that. We have to do it because there's other people that are doing it. And if they get a hold of it first, it's over. That's the risk of the battle. Is it? I mean, we all have it and it just eventually works for humanity instead of against us. But I do think that like my husband thinks that our daughter will never need to learn how to drive probably. He's like, she's not going to need because I was like, she wants to drive already. She's like, when I'm five, I can drive. I'm like, no. She is having kids is the best. I hate that there was so much rhetoric that I was growing up with about like how horrible it is because it is.

2:26:08Yeah. It's all by people who don't have kids. But it's so it is the other morning I go downstairs and she's like, I'm like, how you doing? She's eating her breakfast. She's like, I just need to lay low. I was like, are we hiding for the mob? What is happening? They're experimenting with news, boys to talk. They're just so funny. She's like, and she just says the funniest stuff. She did a whole, my husband sent me a whole thing. She picks up everything. They pick up everything. She was like, I'm going to mothership. And you're going to go to New York. I'm like, where'd she get the New York accent front?

2:26:43I'm going to mothership and you're going to New York to tell jokes. She's telling them all about that. So I'm like, how does she pick all this? It's the best thing in the whole world. But yeah, he doesn't think she wants to drive. And he's like, she's not going to need to know how to drive. Well, she probably will learn how to drive, but it won't be necessary. I think they're going to make the argument that autonomous driving is way safer. But I think it probably is. Oh, it is. Yeah. Yeah, I have a lot of drive on my test. Yes, it can't be. Exactly. No one's going to be allowed to drive. That's probably what's going to happen.

2:27:20That's the only way they're all going to be communicating with each other. And it's probably be roads that are set up where you can allow people to drive. How do you feel about that? I don't know. I like cars. Yeah, I do. It's not good. I like old cars too. I like driving. Yeah, I do. It helps my brain unfurl. Well, I like machines. I'm into old machines. I like the way they work. Do you know how to fix cars? I know how to fix some things, but not really. Yeah. I mean, I know how to change spark plugs and change oil. I understand what it's like. Like basics. Yeah, normal stuff. But most cars don't even have spark plugs anymore.

2:27:54No, it's weird. Yeah, it's all wild. You open up the back of a Porsche, like look at the engine. You're like, what the fuck is that? And Tesla's only have one gear. Is this one? I don't understand how that even works. Have you ever been in one? No. Oh, dude. Oh, I didn't run my team. Oh, I know I have been in one. Next time I have mine, you got to go for a ride. Yeah. Mine's insane. The new one. Yeah, it goes zero to 60 in 1 .9 seconds. That's nuts. It's a time issue. How does it do that? Because it has 1 ,000 horsepower and four -wheel drive and incredible electrical engines that just instantly generate torque and power.

2:28:30That's crazy. It just takes off. They're amazing. And it also self drives. It doesn't just self drive. It changes lanes. It stops for stop signs. It stops for red lights. It turns stop. It's incredible. It changes lanes when there's obstructions in front of it. Can you take your eyes off the, can you like text and stuff? Can you be a passenger? You could, I guess. People have fallen asleep at the wheel famously. But don't they give you like strikes or something like that? Like Tesla itself will. Yeah. So supposedly if you're not looking like it's pretty. Yeah, it's creepy. Yeah. It's all creepy.

2:29:04But if you want to do it right, that's how you have to do it. You can't let people take naps and just press play. But isn't that the point? I want to be in my car typing. Well, eventually you'll be able to do that. Eventually it won't even have a steering wheel. Eventually it'll be a pod that you get in. And it takes you places. This reminds me that Silicon Valley episode where the self -driving car drives right into one of the shipping containers. And then he's just stuck in a shipping container. I didn't say that. Oh, it's so good. And there was such a. That show is brilliant. Yeah, it's, it's weird.

2:29:32But again, if you go back to the people that were on trains and riding horses and you say to one day, you're going to be able to get in a car that goes 1 .9 seconds, zero to 60. And it's going to be electric and make no sound. And you'd be like, what? Well, one day you're not going to need to steer because steering is why people get fucked up because the cars can't detect other cars around them. They change lanes, people make mistakes. They go forward when they shouldn't. They run red lights. All that's going to end. So I'm like a half hour out of the city. And every time I drive to and from there's almost every time there's an accident.

2:30:08I always see the other night I was driving home. Actually for Mother's Shepherd was like one 30 in the morning. And there was a guy on the left side of the freeway walking. Yeah. There's no space by the way. I was like, what is happening right now? People are texting and not paying attention. No, they're trucks behind me. Yeah. It was nuts. I was like, this guy is either like on drugs and crazy or it's like some Jason born situation where he was like limping. Like he's just, he probably broke down and had to walk. No, he looked crazy. He was like, how's it going? He's like, he's a person inside of the floor with death.

2:30:46It was, I mean, Texas is a little. It feels a little unhinged. Does it compare to LA? What was the last time you were back in LA? No, I mean, I was just there. I was there two days before the fires. People are unhinged. Yeah. Yeah. Now, I mean, it feels a little wild. I like it. I like the, I like the, it makes, I'm coming up on two years here. So what do you mean by wild? Like what? It feels wild to me. It still feels very like the wild west or like Texas. There's just an energy here of kind of every time I'm down in six three. I'm like, I'm going to catch a straight down here. Well, six three is wild.

2:31:24Where the club is, that's a wild place. It's like in bonkers out there. Yeah, but that's also makes the club exciting. You might catch a straight while you're waiting. No, not that, but all of people, the foot traffic, you know, there's an energy on that street. Yeah, no, I like it. Yeah. And I like the kind, when I even coming from LA driving in Texas, I was like, these people are out of their fucking minds because it's so much bigger and every, it's like 80 miles an hour speed limits everywhere out where I am. So everyone's actually doing 90 and I would be driving and I'm like, they're like, get out of the way, grandma's.

2:32:03And I'm like, I'm doing fucking 85. Like it's not like I'm going slow. Are you in the left lane? No. No. I'd be in the middle lane. And I'm still trying to get out of the way. I was grandma. I had to out my game. Well, do you see that in LA too? Yeah, but it wasn't, it wasn't, it was always like street racing kids. Like maybe out further, you can, how often could you get your car to 80 miles an hour driving around LA? At night time. I mean at night. Yeah. I'd see a lot of people driving super fast at night. Yeah, yeah. More unhinged people, I think. Really? Yeah, because I would see people driving recklessly on the 101.

2:32:41Like when I was coming home from the store sometimes I'm like, what the fuck? That's me going home though. Like it's, I don't know, it's pretty, it's pretty nuts. Well, when people live a half an hour away from the city and they want to get home quick, that's how you do it. Now it's me. Now I'm the one who's doing 95. Well, it's those people too. No, it's true. It's, I don't know, I'm glad I moved here. I remember you saying like it feels. Well, my husband's blood pressure actually went down. When he moved here. Yeah, there's less people. But it's also just like everything is less of a battle.

2:33:14You said it to me, I think like you felt like you could exhale on one of our, like we were talking, you're like, I move there and just felt like I can like breathe a little. And I mean, my husband has like scientific evidence that he, his whole like energy field got more chill. Yeah, you're not supposed to be living in a place that is 20 million people. I think it's bad for you. Have you ever been to Cairo? No. Cairo. Nuts. Yeah. It's the craziest city I've ever been in. I want to go. When you went to the pyramids, when was it? How long ago? Oh my gosh, it was crazy. It was right after the revolution.

2:33:51So we went in 20. It was 20, it was 2000. When was the Arab Spring? That was internet times. It was 2011. 2012? I want to say, 2012. What's up? 2010, Arab Spring. So my husband, 2011. That was one of the first revolutions that the internet was credited with starting. Yeah. And no one was there. So everyone was like, why the fuck are you guys in Egypt? We got basically a private tour of the whole country. We were on a cruise on the Nile and it was supposed to be hundreds of people. There were 14 people on the cruise. And we got to see, there's usually lines to go into the great pyramids. There were no lines at the Taseekang Tutt.

2:34:44There was no one was anywhere. It was a weird time to be in Egypt. And we saw, I went to Alexandria, I was in Cairo, and did a Nile cruise, which was amazing. You just got to go. Yeah, I definitely do. Did you get this weird feeling that like, how did this go away? Yeah, that's what I don't understand. And I think I had a mental breakdown when I was there. Like a weird, we were in the hospital, not the hospital I wanted. I felt like I should get checked into a hospital. I was, we were staying in the Nile across from all the tombs, the Kings tombs. And I kept feeling this like pulse, and I had a panic attack when I was there.

2:35:36Basically, it was the weirdest thing though. I kept feeling this pulse was like, won't, won't, won't, won't, won't, won't, no. I mean, I was drinking still, but I wasn't doing drugs. And I was like, I'm going to have a, I felt, I thought I was going to end up in a straight jacket. And I thought I had like a panic attack. I had like these crazy dreams. And I was like, oh, this is where it all started for like my, whatever, it was fucking, it's weird. So do you think, do you think you were getting this feeling like, like you said, like here, it's in the soil. There's something in the soil here, like this fierce independence because these people were tough and they survived making it across the great plains and all that shit.

2:36:20Do you think you felt that there? Like this is the, the feeling of this civilization that you see exist in this place? Yeah, it felt to me, I feel like I had like a past life regression if that's even a thing. It was like, I felt like whatever journey I've been on on this planet, it started there. And I went back to the source and it was like a weird, like my dreams were crazy. It was, I couldn't, thank God the guy I was with was like nice and kind, but I couldn't, I, it was like a full blown panic attack. I couldn't even leave the hotel room. And do you think that's just because of being in Egypt?

2:37:02It was just being in Egypt. Do you think it's because of that, like you knew what the civilization was like and it had declined and gone and now you're there and you're just like psychologically dealing with this and you're kind of freaking out and putting it on yourself. So they had, they had, I have always been obsessed with Egypt since I was a little kid. Just unnaturally obsessed with it. It was like I read every book about it when I was a kid. I wanted to go there. I don't know why. And I felt like, you know, if I like to believe in past lives because I think it's amusing. And like if I can choose, it sounds like a fun.

2:37:39It's like why not? And I've always felt very connected to it. And so when I went there and was across from, we were in the, in the King for Rukh suite, actually, and it had a balcony that overlooked the Nile and the tombs and it was, I could feel it was like something in my heart, like a vibration. And they've said that these places like where they're these pyramids, they can have vibrations. I learned this later. But this was like a weird, like, it kept hitting my heart. And then I thought they drugged me. I thought they gave me something in my Hibiscus tea because I started like, I immediately, I drank the Hibiscus tea and I was like, maybe they put some kind of like hallucinogenic in it.

2:38:22But I think I just, I like, I think about this a lot because I've had friends who have had anxiety and panic attacks. And I know what it's like to like get in your head and feel like you're losing your mind. And I had to babysit up my way out of this like panic attack where I couldn't eat. I was unable to keep food down. I just took a bath and was like, I'm going to just chew. That's never happened before. No, I had like, I've had anxiety. I feel for people who have anxiety. I had had anxiety before. But it was when I was doing, I was smoking a lot of weed and doing a lot of drugs and I was in a marriage.

2:38:57I didn't want to be into my first husband. So your life was a mess. And I just was lying to myself. Like I think it, I think depression and anxiety can be very useful signposts for something in your life. You're either doing something you shouldn't be doing or you're not doing something you should be doing. You got a course correct. Yeah. It's giving you motivation. It's or it's saying like there's something, it's like a soul calling for you to check check in. So I yoga kind of saved me from that time. I got divorced. It's somewhat went away. I've talked about my hypokondria so that I dealt with that.

2:39:31But then I was, this was different. It was like a weird, my body physiologically reacted to it too. So I like, not to be too much information, but I like randomly got a period out of nowhere. It was just weird. My body started like I threw up. I got a period all at once. And it was such a, it's like, it's the most supernatural thing that's ever happened to me. Well, there was another time that was really supernatural when I was in Newport, Rhode Island, and I swear there was like a haunting. But other than that, this was, it felt supernatural. Like it didn't feel normal and it took me two full days to like, whatever hit me in my heart on that balcony.

2:40:13And I couldn't like, I like it here was just like want, want, and it was reverberating from the, I sound like a crazy person, but it was reverberating from the tombs. And then I would just, I remember eating a grape so slowly and mindfully just to like come back into my body. And I had these like crazy dreams and I felt like I saw all these connections, like people in my life present. And it was, it was really, it was weird. It was in that moment when I like had a physical reaction where it was like a scene for a movie where I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like all these people in my life and, and the guy was with, thank God, he could have been a total asshole and then like, you're a fucking cycle on leaving you.

2:40:55But he had had a weird experience with me in his guest house in New Zealand where I would fall asleep sometimes downstairs when, or we'd pass out or whatever. And I was like, did you have a dog? Because I was like convinced there was a ghost because I kept feeling some weird sense. And he's like, don't talk about the dog. And then it turns out there was like a dog. And his kids, like he had it and then wanted to get rid of it. And it's something, the store thing. He's like, how the fuck did you know it's a dog? And I was like, oh, because the energy was like a puppy energy. And I was like, what happened to the dog?

2:41:28He's like, nothing, don't ever talk about the dog. And I was like, okay, so he's like, you're weird and psychic and like a weird sick, you have like a weird thing. He was like, you're touched by something. And we used to play back am and all the time and one time I like rolled a dice and it's, I'm sure it was just lint, but it like I wanted to win so badly. And then the dice just was on his corner, just frozen. So he had weird, like just on the court tip of it. Just like, he's like, what the fuck? You're a witch. So he was, he had had slightly unsettling things with me that, enough that I think he was like, all right, maybe she's not totally.

2:42:05Well, they'd say that places have memory, right? This place, I mean, he just starts to show. He's been obviously, but I felt weird when I went to Cheach and Eats off. That feels very weird. Oh, okay. Yeah. I had to, I was like, baby stepping. I still get slightly like, and my life has never been the same really since. Like it was, it was a, an Egypt is, Cairo's bonkers, but Egypt is the Nile. I remember just like cruising down the Nile and being on the deck and you feel, you can feel what it was like like, you're just like, this is like, the memory. Yeah. Yeah. And the tombs are all very, it's very, I don't know, it's very spiritual for me.

2:42:53It was like a very, I felt like a pilgrimage that I didn't know I was taking. Hmm. That's how it felt to me. Look, it makes sense. It was the most sophisticated civilization, maybe ever, in terms of their building of the past. I feel like you would love it. I know I would love it. I know I just don't have the time. I almost did it with Mr. Beast. He went in December. I was going to try to do it and do it with him. He wanted to do a podcast there, but I just couldn't make it happen. I had too busy. Yeah, it's, it's, and the hike. I need to take like a good, solid couple of weeks and go there. It needs to be something that I know that I'm going to be there for a couple of weeks.

2:43:27Yeah. Right now, that's not really possible. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean. I went to the visit the site of the Ilyssinian mysteries, and I was with Brian Mererescu. What is that? It's in Greece. Oh. And that was wild. Really? That was wild. That place has a memory for sure. Yeah, I did just like touching the walls. Like it just feels weird. You just feel like this is different. Like you're in the presence of something. Very strange. That was Egypt. Whatever the energy, I bet Egypt is probably more incredible. But whatever the energy of that place was, there's some of it left there. There's some weird, intangible feeling that's left there that just makes you feel very, very strange.

2:44:08When we were, when I was in LA at the Getty Villa, I always go there and they had the Thraces exhibit. What's that? Thraces is like a, I didn't know anything about it. It was a, it's a civilization that was, it was like partially in Bulgaria. I think it came after ancient Greece. There it is. Trasers from Bulgaria, Romania, Greece. This statue is fucking insane. Wow. It looks like it's looking at you. Look at the odds. It is insane. It is insane to see it in real life. This exhibit that's there right now is truly one of the most special exhibits I've ever, I go to all of them that I can there.

2:44:47And that is, but I started, it's crazy. And I knew nothing about this civilization and society and the more I learned about it, the more obsessed I am. But all of this stuff had its own, like when the fires were around the villa, I was like, oh God, I hope that there, I hope that, that all this stuff is okay. I mean, those walls are like fireproof and they've got, I've never heard of this before. I've never, I've never even really heard of Thraces. I've always been very obsessed with Greek mythology, Roman history, all of these things, but Thraces is this crazy civilization. Look at the relief with two Thracians.

2:45:28I want to see if I have the, oh, it's crazy. Yeah, if you're back in LA, I think that exhibit is there until March. March 3rd, I believe. Maybe it's this temporarily closed on top, I don't know if it's because of the fire. Probably. Yeah, I think the Gettys temporarily closed now up in the Gettysville, where I mean closed until further notice. Oh, okay, I thought they were open for some reason, but yeah, they must still be closed from the fires. Some days someone's going to be doing that with the World Trade Center. They're going to be wandering around that. This is where they used to live. They used to go to school here.

2:46:04They used to work in these buildings. That's going to happen. Thank you. Yeah, the same way we go through the Acropolis in the Parthenon and wander around and imagine what it was like living back then. People are going to do that with us. Every civilization collapses. We're just trying to hold this one off as much as we can. And they usually last a couple hundred years, which is ours. Yeah, we're not, we're pretty young. Yeah, but a lot of them haven't made it past where we got to. It always reminds me of that porno for Pyro song. We'll make the pets. Oh, yeah. It's like my friends say we're like the dinosaurs.

2:46:42And here we are doing ourselves in much faster than they ever did. Yeah, I don't know if that's real. The dinosaurs? No, the other thing. We're doing ourselves in faster than them. No, they could hit by a rock. I was like, oh no, we were coming to a dangerous territory when we find out Joe doesn't believe in dinosaurs. I was watching, we were talking about Candace Owens last night. Candace Owens like said dinosaurs are faking gay.

2:47:11Is that what she says? Yeah, I don't know what she means by that. She might just be having fun. This whole Bridget McCrown thing though is crazy. Did you watch any of it? No. No. No, I got no time. But I did see a comparison to the photographs of the person that she's claiming is actually like the brother. Oh, the brother. Didn't the brother disappear or something? Yeah, the brother disappeared. And the brother literally looks exactly like her. I mean, to a fucking tee. She was kind of on the like Blake and Ryan thing too, I think. Yeah, oh, she's a sleuth and she's from a sleuth and look at these.

2:47:52Okay, that's pretty freaking weird. I'll send it to Jamie. Because this is, I mean, she's just going all in. First of all, I don't even know if this is a real picture. I mean, this easily could be some AI bullshit that somebody created to try to pretend that the brother is actually her. But the brother is like not to be found. And if that's real, see, I don't know if that's real. Same every wrinkle of the face is the same. If that's, if that was my brother, if my brother looked, I'd be like, wait, we're not twins. So we're not twins. Like what? Looks Photoshopped. The mouth, definitely looks Photoshopped.

2:48:33How so? Because like you said, the teeth are exact. Yeah, exact in the exact position, right? Yeah, they're not even almost. Right, it looks fake. It looks like somebody doctored up, somebody used AI.

2:48:47So, you can't tell. What's real and what's not real online anymore. Nothing's real. You can't tell. You literally can't tell. You have to operate from the idea that this is not real. You have to start there now. Right, but also this is just the beginning. Like what are we going to be looking at five years from now? We're going to be looking at indescribable experiences that are indistinguishable from reality. Not just like images, but you're going to be able to like, you're going to be able to have experiences that aren't real. Do you think that the like, metaverse thing is going to take off? Like people are going to be plugging in to the...

2:49:26Yeah, if it gets good enough. Yeah, and cheap enough. Because it's kind of expensive. It's expensive, but it's also weird to have something in your face. People feel weird like wearing this big clunky thing. But if you can sit down and attach something to your head, and then all of a sudden you're in another world, you're in avatar flying on a fucking dragon. We're going to do it. I mean, it sounds isn't like red band really into that. Oh, loves it. He's like famous in the metaverse. He goes in there every night. He has like parties and stuff. He's a nut. But it's perfect for someone like him.

2:49:55His video game guy loves the internet. That was telling me, like he took him to a comedy club. You can do a type 5 or comedy club there. Oh, yeah. It's crazy. Well Zuckerberg showed me that too. There's a metaverse comedy club. Yeah, but he's like, you had to like, know people that got in, and he's famous. I was like, this is not... It's nuts that this already exists to me. Well, it's just the beginning. That's pong, you know? And whatever it's going to be like 20 years from now is going to be something really wild. Isn't it weird to think that like you might just exist forever in the metaverse talking because you've done so many podcasts?

2:50:27We'll just be able to cut and paste and make you kind of like... Not even just that. They'll get a map. What if you're a god in the future? Well, they'll be able to get a map of how I think and how I go over things and how I go, well, maybe not. Let's look at that. And then they'll apply that sort of thinking. And they'll be able to do podcasts with me with anyone in history. I'll be able to have a podcast with Albert Einstein. I always think about this when I see the people who get tattoos. I be on like future civilizations are going to be like, who was this man? He must have been someone important, maybe a shaman or a brawman?

2:50:59No, he's a bro cage fighting commentator.

2:51:05Yeah, me and Einstein. Oh, no. Look at him. That's a young Einstein too. I didn't train the thing to have... I was looking into this. Oh. They can already do it. What? Let me hear this. They don't have their voices. Oh, they don't have their voices. Yeah. But I hope seen one where they did. Oh, Nikola Tesla. Ooh, I'd love to have a podcast with him. They already did a podcast with me and Steve Jobs. Did they? Yeah, an audio one. An audio podcast with me and Steve Jobs. It's crude. You can kind of tell that it's not real. But that's just because it's, you know, first generation. That's really weird.

2:51:36Yeah. We got to wrap this up, Bridget. Thank you very much. My friend, always great to see you. Thank you for having me. Always a pleasure. Tell everybody how to get your stuff, where to find you. Just go to my YouTube and subscribe. That's the best thing you can do. What's the YouTube? It's a Bridget Fettasy. I don't even know where you're doing. It's Fettasy, PHETASY, Dumpster Fire is the show. Fettasy .com. All that stuff. Bridget Fettasy Online. Yeah. You can find me. All right, my friend. Appreciate you. Thank you. Bye. Love you too. Bye, everybody. Bye.

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Bridget Phetasy is a writer and stand-up comedian. She hosts the show “Dumpster Fire" and also the podcast “Walk-Ins Welcome.”

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