#2290 - Michael Kosta

1:10:13The hustler The hustler The only answer to that question is the hustler I thought the color of money had a run It's okay It's okay The color of money is good It's a good tournament movie It's a good mood But you know, there's some things in it And because Paul Newman was in it You know, it kind of gave it some validity Yeah Because it was the same Walter Tevis novel As the hustler The color of money It was very different The book was very different though But yeah, the color of money was great Because he got a lot of people playing pool again But the hustler is just an amazing film Like the actual film itself is amazing It's like Piper Laurie is incredible in it It's just It's George C.

1:10:54Scott is in it Jackie Gleason plays Minnesota Facts And he's Who's by the way, Jackie Gleason was a real pool player It's probably the only guy that's ever played a pool player In a movie that really could play My brother once got a book for Christmas called How to hustle your friends of pool And it was in our basement We had a pool table But it was one of those things same That I worked at it I can never get it right And eventually the other things came more naturally to me But it is fun Pool is something If you really want to play right You have to get coached Okay Yeah, it's just like tennis I'm sure It's like you can develop some bad habits And bad fundamentals that you'll never You're never going to pass a certain level of play But I think it's like everything I think it's like chess It's like tennis It's like Shultz was in here the other day And he's into the sport paddle Have you seen paddle?

1:11:44Is this PADL? Yes Padel? Yeah, this is the Well, I've heard Padel It depends on how you want to help Pretend you're shooting with it Ah, perfect Of course Or if you're Spanish Oh, did they say Padel? That's where it's from, yeah Oh, well why don't we call it Padel then? That's where it's from Yeah, I said paddle Is it paddle? Yeah, so you know Tennis has had this great Historical run on elite racket sports And then pickle ball has been this Counter response to tennis Silly ball Loud noise Don't really have to move much And pickle ball has been taking off I don't know if you've played or if you've seen it King Rock plays every day Okay, perfect That gets up and eight in the morning You play pickle ball with a strainer That is exactly my point Okay, I was in Scottsdale, Arizona recently I did an hour of pickle ball The community there had music going, cracking beers Cost to come over play with us Very fun Very fun I then go over to the other side And play tennis, which is my sport And no joke, this older couple says You're talking too loudly on the courts It's this beautiful dichotomy of these two sports I don't know pickle ball sport But Padel comes along and seems to be This middle ground What I don't like about pickle ball Is you get to what they call the kitchen line And you can't move anymore, you're frozen So you just stand there frozen And you knock the ball around I like a sport, I want 360 degree movement I don't want to be...

1:13:16I don't want the dimension of the court to restrict my movement Or the rules of the game Padel seems to be both It's tennis, but it's in this box And they sometimes run outside of the box Yeah, they run outside of the box I mean it's fucking insane And I've actually never played But the points never end Because you're on this... I should see people I mean look at this shit He's going outside the box No, that's nuts That is nuts So it almost seems gimmicky to me That's funny that Andrew plays But I would like to play this And look, you know Also, one of the best things that happened for racket sports Is HDTV did When you were a kid Watching Jimmy Connors jump back You never even see the fucking ball Right, right It was the same color as the court And this shit now is unbelievable to watch That's like what they've done with hockey Would they highlight the puck?

1:14:07I love that shit That's a game changer Now I know what's going on The first people made fun of it And I was like, I need... And hockey with the Substitutions on the fly I never know who the fuck's on the ice Yeah I love that though I love that they do that That's so cool I've been watching professional lacrosse lately Once I realized they could beat the fuck out of each other I didn't know they could fight like they do I don't know like a fight They fight And they wear shoes Which is crazy Because now you're barren Uncle boxing In the middle of a game What does the shoes have to do with it? What do you mean?

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1:17:59They can't fight Or a game There's nine fights in Or three fights Oh yeah, yeah, yeah Seconds they just start squaring off Yeah, why we upset at Canada Is this over tariffs? Yes 100 % They booed us over tariffs They're also trying to I mean it worked They got a ton of attention So everyone was Who's red and who's blue? Well, Canada's red There you go Who's winning this exchange? Blue is America One dude keeps his helmet on That's ridiculous That helmet's problem I do love when you hear Their microphones during a fight And they fight And then they go like Ready to be done? Yeah, I'm ready to be done I love that I was at the comic strip In Edmonton years ago When Canada played US in the Gold Medal game Someone sent me The country's Water usage During that game And at every Period And the water usage Would go up Because everyone went Would go to the bathroom Right And it was like the whole Fucking country Went to the bathroom At the same time And Canada won And I think it was an overtime I was the only American there But Man, do they love A good winter sport up there We got to become friends with Canada again We have to Yeah, you know I'm down This is so ridiculous I can't believe that there's Like anti -American And anti -Canadian sentiment going on Is there anti - There it is That's nuts The water consumption Is there That's crazy Right I love on that If I say something I got to be ready For you guys to fact check my ass Jamie's ready Is there anti -Canadian sentiment Yeah, there's a lot of idiots That now think That there are fucking enemies Okay That why we slept And died in Canada Right Welcome They don't have their own military Well, they don't So let's just like deal with it As it is You know Trudeau is out Right He's already leaving Yeah They got a new guy Who says bad Who says bad Same thing But they got a new party 150 people voted No, they have a new New guy running the country But they Their whole election system is so different They don't have like a specific time when they have elections They can call a election And I think it happens within three weeks The whole thing is so crazy And so I don't know what's happening with their politics But I just want America and Canada get along I think it's ridiculous Yeah It's a good As someone who's from Ann Arbor, Michigan You know And I don't really think they should be our 51st state There I said it That you said it He's on record It would be fun if it happened It would be fun I think Greenland's more accessible Yeah You could probably buy that Yeah If you want a 51st state That's Greenland Plus if global warming is real Because of all the digging and oil and all that shit You know Be good to have a cold spot to Eventually warm up I just read this crazy book Called Power Metals By Vince Bizer Possibly We had him on the show Daily Show And it's all about like minerals and metals And what we need for our batteries And cobalt mining in Africa And I went down all this YouTube shit with like Oh yeah The child, you know, labor and all But very I was very ignorant to how much we need and use metals Oh yeah Nickel copper You know, wild batteries EVs, everything And so then when the news came out the Trump wanted Greenland I was like oh this is starting to make more sense to me now There's a lot of stuff up there There's a lot of stuff in the sky If they can mine asteroids If they can successfully figure it out on mine asteroids They can get a lot of precious minerals Let's fucking do that Yeah well That's a few decades away But they'll figure it out eventually They've been able to get samples from asteroids And they know like what the composites are And you know, there's asteroids out there That are filled with trillions of dollars in minerals That is fucking nuts I know, it's nuts Yeah, and they can figure it out They will They'll eventually figure it out But I had said Darth Cara on Who has done He's done some pretty brilliant And brave investigative work on the cobalt mines And you know, he took video I'll have to check that What they call artisinal mines It's essentially slaves Digging this stuff out of the ground with their babies on their back This is from Sudars book Yeah I mean this is fucking crazy And they're digging the cobalt out of the ground With like literally with sticks Everybody's breathing it in It's all toxic These women have babies on their back The babies are breathing it in And then there's these pools, right?

1:22:14That you put the water And it's toxic water And the pools are different colors And we don't know where this goes And the water seeps in And is this also I can get the new iPhone 14 max Or whatever the fuck it is? 100 % That's exactly what it is It's terrible It's the only way we're getting that stuff It's most of the cobalt's coming from that area And it's also then you go to the actual construction of the phone itself And you see those factories Those Foxconn factories Or they have nets around them to keep people from jumping off the roofs And they realize these people are working in these horrific conditions So that you can get an iPhone that costs $13 .99 Yeah Instead of $15 .99 Or whatever the fuck it would be If it was made in America With people paid a working wage And healthcare And all the stuff that you're supposed to get If you're going to be working So why should you have a company like Apple that's worth More than any corporation ever Like Apple's insanely profitable So we did this piece of the Daily Show once about the sugar cane agriculture in the central Florida They over fertilize it It makes more sugar faster All of the fertilization goes down to Lake Okeechobee Then goes out to the oceans where the algae blooms The manatees die And I'm just going I think most people would pay an extra 25 cents a year For this not to happen to spend more on sugar Why are we doing this?

1:23:40I would pay more to have my iPhone be made in America by American hands Yeah we've talked about that But the problem is the infrastructure that's required to be able to build phones here Is a decade away It takes a long time to build the kind of factories that can have like the tolerances of these chips And they've been doing it in China forever It's stuck in a wild I mean I was loading my kids in the car Put my phone on top of my car Because I didn't have an extra hand Forget it's there Driving through Pennsylvania Yeah and it's gone I hear it pop up up all over the highway it's bouncing I stop I finally find my phone in the woods And 9 -1 -1 is on the phone We recognize that there was a crash Are you okay?

1:24:25And I'm like What? Holy shit That's in this thing Yeah That's pretty wild It's wild It's also watching everything you do And listening to all your conversations and recommending Google searches Why don't you buy this Michael? Hey Michael, maybe you'd be interested in buying this It seems like you were interested But what are talking about vacation homes in Hawaii? Look Michael What about when you've already bought it? That always is weird Yeah it's weird When it's just feeding the algorithm I'm in the algorithm Yeah you get sucked into the algorithm You know it's It's an interesting world that we live in with all that stuff Because it's like you're constantly getting inundated That's one of the things that I really enjoy about podcasts It's the one time for a three hours a day Where I don't look at my phone Yeah I don't have any text coming in I don't do not disturb I don't care I mean that could arguably be why Maybe you have this supernatural memory and brain power Because you, more than anybody, probably in the world Maybe in the United States are actually away from this for four hours Just talking That could be interesting That's what I just cracked something That's something that maybe do something with that But I think it's just the sheer volume of people that I've talked to Yeah So you're getting information But you're retaining a lot of that I've always been good at that for some reason Yeah I mean you just referenced the guests you had this previous book Yeah Are you retaining...

1:25:48Are you doing a trick or anything to retain? No You're just locked in and engaged Yeah Yeah I take supplements from memory to them Yeah And I take alpha brain, which is a... I saw It's called a Neutropa I saw it out there You didn't grab something I didn't want to be too... No, getting too sharp for the pot Too sharp for the thing that... Vent machine You get free alpha brain You just press the button How many pods do you get free alpha brain on? That's pretty sick Anyone you want It's a... But that stuff's legit It really works And it really does... That was from my company on it And when we first made it...

1:26:22A lot of people were saying, oh, this is snake oil, this is bullshit I had already had experience with Neutropics Because there's a company called Neuro1 And Bill Romanowski, the football player, developed it Because he was having memory problems after all the hits And I was on a radio show in San Francisco And one of the guys was working out with Bill Romanowski And he started taking this Neuro1 It's like, dude, it's like, I'm so much more focused It's really great I'm like, okay, I'm gonna try this And I was like, oh, this is legit I feel like my mind feels clear I feel like I have more thought energy if that makes any sense So then we started experimenting with different ones And there's a bunch I like One of them is this company Neuro These are Mints, NeuroMints But they make NeuroGum, which I'm a big fan of I chew it all the time It's gum that has like a little bit of caffeine And a little bit of theanine in it What's the...

1:27:16The goal Just to kind of keep the brain... Keeping the energy high Yes Yeah, you want to provide your brain with the nutrients Your brain needs to produce human neurotransmitters Or I'm gonna take this Maybe we'll do like it before or after That, you know, let's mine I usually take two Okay I'm gonna take the Mints But they're legit So this is one NeuroGum's another one True brain is another one that I've tried That's really good It's like little packets you drink I've found... I just assumed it was like kids and age And getting older That I'll lose my train of thought more often Than I ever had before Oh, yeah And I hate it It's not fun It's not fun And everything I read says Like keep exercising Get blood flowing your body This may be sauna hell Sleep's a big one Isn't it crazy how much an athlete...

1:28:05The best athletes treat sleep Oh, yeah I mean, Pete Sanders used to travel with duct tape So when he'd get to the hotel He would tape the curtain to the window So no excess light would get him Because he wanted like Full darkness A float tank situation And I'm like, you know, at that level When you're playing for one in the world Like all that little stuff Yep And that's wild Meanwhile, you give my house I lay down, we shut off the lights Sonos has a light The Wi -Fi thing has a light The clock has... There's so much extra excess light all the time Yeah, it's not good Maybe that's why I can't...

1:28:39Remember the joke I'm about to tell Sleep is a big problem You know, you really need to get a solid Seven, eight hours of sleep every night And if you don't, you're gonna feel it One of the best supplements For mitigating the effects of sleep deprivation Is actually creatine Okay Creatine is actually... My buddy just start taking it I don't know I take it every day I took it in college The strength team coach Made me take it And it bothered my stomach Well, there's different forms of creatine I take it in gummy form Which doesn't seem to bother me at all I've had people that take it like liquid They poured into water in the get diarrhea I haven't had that happen But it's also like there's different kinds of creatine A really good creatine Like you want a reputable company That makes creatine monohydrate And then there's another thing called HMB That people mix with creatine But creatine, besides being a muscle builder Because it really does enhance your recovery And helps you build muscle It also is a Neutropic It also helps brain function Which makes sense Because if your body works better Your brain works better And it makes you retain more water You have more water in your body Which is obviously also a good thing And especially for an athlete And especially for someone who wants to think Like one of the worst ways to think is if you're dehydrated If you're dehydrated and tired Like you're fucked You're working on like 50 % brain capacity Well, I love watching sports You know, the end you see these silly mistakes Always Why would they do that?

1:30:07That's, you know, why'd the ball go through his legs Why'd he choose to serve to that side? Why'd he throw the fastball down the middle Because they're fucking dehydrated and tired And it's crazy how that affects brain function And that's why I love the couch fan Oh my god, why'd he throw that? It's like with a beer in your hands You're literally drinking a beer This guy's a pussy If I was getting that money I'd fight my Tyson I'd come out swinging The couch fan is their best But yeah, like in fights you see it all the time When people are exhausted they make terrible decisions They shoot for takedowns They get caught in guillotine chokes because they're exposed They're just exhausted And they just take a chance And they don't have the energy to complete the technique correctly Yeah Oh dude, I mean my parenting With a full night's sleep Versus like how to early flight I mean it's crazy Yeah, everything is I mean I'm like I'd like to think a kind patient parent On a good night's sleep but like When I get home after a road gig Or whatever even coming up This Sunday I have an early flight I'm going to get to Brooklyn I know it's going to be 1 p .m.

1:31:12And the wife's going to hand me the kids and go your turn Right And I'm going to be like dude the patience is going to be tough Well you're going to be exhausted from the flight Yeah You know what I found helps a lot from flights is If you can work out immediately After? Right when you land Like right when you land Just get into it Just get something going Yeah Even if it's 20 minutes do a bunch of push -ups and sit -ups and chin -ups Yeah Just get it going Just reset the clock Because when you exert yourself like hard You have a hard you know 20 minutes to half hour of working out It resets you And you're like I'll get it back I'm okay I'm very excited about this weekend because My former assistant coach at Illinois where I played tennis Is the head coach here at Texas Oh you too I you too No He's won an NCAA championship His name is Bruce Burke He's an excellent coach But he's like dude Come hit with us Oh wow So I'm going to be training with the Texas team And their beasts These guys are you know it's So that's exciting for me That's cool That's super fun to get to do that And then perform a mothership dude Never even step foot in this place Oh I'm excited for you to go And it's selling out so fat I mean you've created it Last time I was here it was like still an idea Yeah Adam E .Gate was around But now I mean it's just amazing man You've built something amazing Yeah it is good It's better than we have ever hoped We never hoped it was going to be what it is now It's perfect Was the comedy store

1:32:43A foundational thought with this? Oh yeah Yeah for sure Because the midsy's room is obviously a testament to her Yeah And I never met midsy I never fucking met her That's crazy That's her That painting sir Let me ask something that's crude Was she hot? She was hot when she was young Yeah When she looked like that It was hot Because I see like I go to the La Jolla comedy store And I see all the pictures of her And I'm like I think midsy was hot Yeah but I didn't ever She was hot when she was young I didn't meet her then I met her in 94 You know she was already quite a bit older And she started suffering the beginnings Of her neurological condition Like she could have little bit of shakes But she was there You know you could have conversations with her And she helped me a lot And she also helped foster an environment of creativity And of collaboration And of you know there was It was a home for a lot of road comics Like there was this thing that you knew That you would go home And on Tuesday and Wednesday nights We would be at the store having the time of our lives On Tuesday and Wednesday nights We would be working on new jokes We would be doing sets We would laugh together Everybody was cracking jokes in the parking lot It was so much fun And it was that home environment That we wanted to recreate as much as possible That's awesome And to make it as comic -friendly as public What if you ever wanted in a club they didn't have Okay let's get that Like how do you want it this to be How do you want to get to the stage What do you think we do about And I asked everybody And Louis CK gave me some of the best advice Like Louis told me to lower the ceilings I shortened the stage in the smaller room He told me like to deaden the sound as much as possible Everybody wants that echo Because it makes it sound like people are killing more You want clear sound He's dead right on everything Wow Because he has a production mind He doesn't just have a mind of a comic He also has a mind of like What's the best way to set things up for a film or for us Set the environment You feel and notice all that stuff on stage As performing recently Ceilings tall Crowd is full Yeah But where's the laughs going?

1:34:50Am I killing? I feel like I'm doing well But I'm not hearing it Yeah Now I'm in my head a little bit Right? That's changed my order Now I'm doing the bit that I know is going to kill Instead of just letting things really And it's like all of that matters Yeah All of that matters High ceilings is a big thing It's a problem You want to be locked in You want everybody to be locked in The comedy story the way you just described that Was was really became my clubhouse Yeah And I was a little bit I got past there when you were gone for a little while And I remember when you came back Changed dramatically But LA was really really tough for me initially Upon moving there And then all of a sudden you get into a place like that There's a place to drink There's a place to talk shit There's a place to Oh my god Even just parking Right?

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1:38:31I always wanted to get out of L .A. Because I felt like especially when my kids were young I was like, I've been through this with my older daughter I was like, I don't think L .A. is a good place for children I don't think it's a good place for young people I think it's just to fill with too many bizarre ambitions and creeps And it's just like people are devalued because there's so many of them It's too overwhelming So I always thought about getting out And then the pandemic hit And then Ron White was the one to talk me into opening up the club Like we were doing local shows at the Vulcan And we had talked about maybe opening up a club Like maybe we should buy a club here And then Ron White got off stage He hadn't been on stage in like seven or eight months And he murdered He got a standing ovation when he on stage And it turned out he was playing it off He had practiced all day, gone over his notes And he just fucking professional Just murdered And then he grabs me by the shoulders He was whatever the fuck we have to do We're gonna keep doing this You can open up that goddamn club I was like, okay Yeah Okay Always a great hang I mean at the comedy store he didn't know me And he would just hang And he's the best He's the elder statesman of the Austin comedy scene Okay, got it He's the best And he's such a good guy And he's always around And so like with Ron So we had Ron, we had Tony Hinchcluff And then Tom Segura moved here And Christina Positsky And then the floodgates opened And Tim Dillon Everybody started coming It's the time we have to And then Shane Gillis moved here And he brought the whole Philly crew And there's all these killers It's like It dunked and moved here It's like it just became so fun It became so fun And all these things had to happen For it to take place like that The comedy store had to lose guys like Adam Like they had fire everybody So these people were all unemployed So I hire them And I brought them over here It wasn't even a club yet I was like, I'll pay you now You can start getting paid now You'll health benefits All the jazz just enjoy the city Just have a good time A year or so I'll call on you And so then we started working I mean, I've been texting Adam For a long time And I was like, is something happening Yes, something is happening But we don't know when But not to come back and Excited to walk through it So a lot of people dismissed it It was all going to happen But it was going to happen When you're an outsider looking at your plate There's a lot on it But this was important If I'm not going to do it Who's going to do it?

1:40:49It's one of those things Where if you have an opportunity To do something very unusual And you don't do it Well then, what is it? Nobody ever do anything unusual? Yes, fuck and do it Everyone just always either goes To New York or LA And that's it forever And it was also, we had so many people Like Brian Simpson He moved out here early Derek Post and Sonoma They all moved out here early We had so many killers That were already here We're like, this We're already doing shows Sold out shows at the Volcano Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday nights Kiltoni was there on Mondays We were already doing weekend shows It was like, it was a no brainer We knew we could do it That's it You know, but it was It was a little scary It's a little scary It's a dump of a bunch of money Buy a building Renovate the whole thing For a year and a half The decisions alone It's a lot of decisions A lot of decisions Door knobs, carpets, lights, ceiling, drywall We had a really good architect That helped to shout out to Richard Richard Wise But at the end of the day Really what it was all about Was a lot of great timing Great opportunity and great timing Yeah And then doing it the right way From the beginning Yeah Make it as comedy friendly as possible And just make an environment Where people like like to be there Yeah Nice friendly people Everybody's having fun Yeah Everybody's like real supportive I love that Yeah, it's great In comics To their credit I think naturally or non -conformist And I love that they'll jump At a new opportunity Yeah They're not like all tied So You know Yeah Joe's open a club We'll go Boom People moved here It's like nuts to here I can't believe how often I was texting with Adam He said Who do you want to be opening for you this weekend I said Send me some names Send me all the names I'm like This feels like all comedy store names Yeah These are all in all this time Holtsman lives here now He's here all the time That's crazy He was fucking killing the other night No, Holtsman has a crowd here now Yeah So instead of Holtsman going up at two o 'clock in the morning In the main room When there was no one there And the comics in the back of the room and laugh Yeah Now he's got sold out shows Wow And people come to see Holtsman Yeah And he's doing different material like every nightman That's great It's amazing Yeah He's got a crowd now And he can make money in town Right Which is huge And he doesn't have to travel He doesn't have to do the road And he is doing the road a little bit too much Right Which is unique for Brian too It's really funny Because he puts up these videos And people getting offended He does I haven't seen One is Instagram It's people getting offended And screaming at him Walking out of a show Because they don't get it Yeah But once you see him a couple of times And you get what he's doing Then we have what we have in Austin now Where people, you know, when Holtsman is there It sells out They're coming to see Holtsman It's fun There's nothing more beautiful than A person talking into a microphone Causing a reaction to a group Yeah It's beautiful It's nuts It shows how powerful words and energy And communication can be It's like, you let that person make you that mad And this person didn't touch you Or hit you Yeah That's wild Right That is wild to think that we have that ability Especially with Holtsman Because he lets you in on it every now and then Right What he's doing And then he comes back to it It's like he does this very beautiful dance Of like letting you in on it And then going right back to the fucking guy Yeah Yeah Well, it's fucking great I'm looking forward to performing there So it's sweet You're going to have a good time Great Did you bring people to open with you Or you got local people?

1:44:15I think we got local I'm not 100 % sure I didn't bring people with me But we have a lot of good local people now Well, that's the thing It's like you could bring somebody Or you're in a community where there's great comedy So I'd much rather do that Yeah And you'll have a great hang The green room is really great It's a great hang We have May West couch in there That Peter Shore gave me It's Mitzies She had it in her house And so we had it a re -apholstered So in the green room This is beautiful pink couch That's May West couch Okay, amazing Yeah, so the bones of it are May West couch That's great Yeah And so we have Rodney Dangerfields Handwritten notes on the wall From his last tonight show special So it's all the different bits that he wanted to hit And all the different things that he wanted to talk about And then Patrick Bet David Gave me one of Lenny Bruce's microphones Holy shit So we have Lenny Bruce's microphone Framed on the wall above the monitors I feel like Lenny Bruce Not enough comics understand The road he paved for everybody else Yeah It's known that he did that But he was the OG He was the OG That's what I'm trying to say He was the first guy to go to jail He was going to jail He arrested him A bunch of times That is insane For words It's nothing Today it wouldn't even get you kicked off TikTok But we still had the first amendment at that time So that's what's so interesting to me Yeah The interpretation of Or the enforcement of That's wild Well this is the role Same constitution Yeah, same constitution Well this is the role that comedy plays in free speech Because we are really one of the only countries That has the kind of free speech that we have The decoration When we have the first amendment It talks very specifically The very first one about our ability to express ourselves How important that is But if you're a comedian And you can't do that Like if someone's deciding Well that sets the boundaries for everything else If he didn't do that If he wasn't doing that in the 50s and the 60s And getting arrested Like who knows where free speech would be today What was he arrested on?

1:46:30Profanity You could be arrested on profanity Yeah, he was arrested on profanity charges Yeah, they had profanity laws back then Or in public places You couldn't have Different places in different districts had different regulations But I'm sure in San Francisco where he started Probably could do whatever he wanted And then as you travel And then he became more and more popular Obscenity This reminds me of Profanity of sanity So here it is He was arrested at the jazz workshop in San Francisco Which is even crazier in 1961 Where he used the word cock sucker And said that Two is a preposition Come is a verb That the sexual context of come Was so common that it bore no weight And that if someone hearing it became upset He probably can't come Although Jury acquitted him Other law enforcement agencies Beget monitoring his appearances Resulting in frequent arrests under obscenity charges Yeah, but Joe see there Although a jury acquitted him I'm just wondering like What's he actually breaking a law Or they just hassling him by arresting him Because he can't Dude they've arrested him for saying schmuck I mean go back to that real quick But I'm saying What do you charge somebody with?

1:47:49Well this was the obscenity charges Like they said If you go back to that Wikipedia page Look at that This is crazy He said A Sherman block Later became the county sheriff The charge this time was that the community To use the word schmuck An insulting Yiddish word That was also considered a term for penis Oh my gosh The Hollywood charges were later dismissed So this was in Philadelphia And then Los Angeles And then West Hollywood In West Hollywood he was arrested Imagine the place where the comedy store resides right now He was arrested just ten years before Richard Prior Was performing live in the sunset strip I mean what about the one in Philly's legit The gay The gay drug possession Yeah he did a lot of drugs Yeah well I would do a lot of drugs if I got arrested every time I said schmuck So live in the sunset strip I think was 81 Or 82 Was that correct?

1:48:40What year was live in the sunset strip? Because I was in high school I remember that 66 I have that poster That Lenny Bruce poster There's a lot of Lenny Bruce love out night Yeah Which is so cool Yeah I have a lot of Lenny Bruce stuff out there Like he was the guy And it's hard when you listen to his stuff today because most of it Yeah It's kind of trite Like we've heard all the premises before It's because he broke the ground You have to remember people were so innocent in 1961 The culture was so different that what he was saying was groundbreaking I fell into that trap You know I was like I'm not really digging it I'm really enjoying it But it's like you have to really think about where we were then Sure if you listen to Shakespeare talk You probably just have a retard Fuck you, what vow does not like shut up But if it's like in the context of 1961 What he was doing was It was akin to a lot of things that were to come Like the anti -war movement, the civil rights movement All these things were bubbling up about This freedom of exploring ideas and expressing yourself But in comedy it had just been Two Jews walking to a bar You know it had been jokes You set up punchline The Italian says it's the Polish guy It would have been a lot of that stuff And so he came along and was like Why do we have these words that are forbidden?

1:49:58Why do we have this? Why is that? Why can't people be in love this way? Why can't that happen? And it was like people like Jesus Like why can't we? And like he changed the way people thought about life Not just about comedy And then I think Richard prior came along and made it way better Yeah, made it funnier But also what fascinates me so much about that with Lenny Bruce is It was, it's the same first amendment that we have right today It's the same Yeah And those words have not changed But society has or its interpretation has or its enforcement has That's wild Yeah That's wild The enforcement is the thing And then the concept of obscenity charges Obscenity charges are very subjective Who's to decide what's obscene?

1:50:41To me, Schmuck is not obscene It's kind of cute If someone calls you a Schmuck, it's probably a friend of yours You know, like you fucking Schmuck It's not a, I mean, you know, I don't know Rested for Schmuck, that's crazy What is this, Jamie? This is where the obscenity law came from a court case Well, this is 73 though This is what I typed in word of the obscenity laws and everything No, I understand, but this is 73 because, you know, he was 61 So what does it say there? The ruling scroll up a little bit It says a landmark decision of the US Supreme Court clarifying the legal definition of obscenity As material that lacks serious, literary, artistic, political, or scientific value Geez The ruling was the origin of three -part judicial tests for determining obscene media content That could be banned by government authorities, which is now known as the Miller Test So, Miller Test is actually quite relevant right now, it's coming up a lot Oh, is it?

1:51:32Miller Test, yes For what? First amendment stuff, it just heard something about it, that's interesting Yeah, it is interesting Because the thing about this is this is probably all in response to all the anti -war activists And all of the whole hippie freedom of speech, flower child movement I did a piece for the Daily Show after Biden won and this woman in New Jersey had up 10, 15 flags, fuck Biden, fuck Joe Biden, fuck Joe Biden flags Was on a path to a school And a lot of parents said, take down the flags, she said it's my first amendment right Got all messy, the city made her take it down, she refused NAACP popped in to defend her saying it was her right as a Biden as a political figure But then it became an obscenity, it was a very interesting piece And I spoke to her and she was very outspoken and my whole take was like, hey, just maybe let's say legally you can put those flags up But it's just kind of shitty, right?

1:52:42And she was like, fuck you, I'm gonna put my flags up But interesting when obscenity mixes in with school, kid, what is that now? Public figure, if it says fuck Tony, fuck Michael, that's different than fuck Joe Biden, the sitting President of the United States All fascinating Yeah, it's also, what do you want to see in your neighborhood? I don't like people putting those fucking stupid signs on their lawns My parents, they were die hard liberals, they were living in Florida at the time And this is during 2016 and my mom was complaining every time I put my Hillary Clinton sign, someone takes it down Like you're in Florida, like why are you putting Hillary Clinton signs on your lawn?

1:53:27But to my mom, it might as well be like she was supporting the Miami Dolphins You know, that was her team, her team was a Democrat What I was just gonna say, I don't like when a kid is wearing a Dolphins hat or a Yankee's hat Because I'm like, we as adults have put that on the kid Well, maybe the kid is just a fan of the sport It's possible, but dad probably made him do it Maybe, maybe the kid just like says, that doesn't bother me at all There's no other wrong with supporting teams But there's a real problem when it's how the cold countries run and you're thinking about it like a team That's kind of ridiculous And people that put those fucking signs on their lawn like settle down Just why?

1:54:07Why? It's just like you're like Yeah, now I'm thinking, this is good, I think Right in the yard, right in front of your house, which a point Like those people that like science is settled This is, this love is love Black Lives Matter Well, what, okay Who was the Supreme Court justice with the flags? Got in the whole fucking neighborhood fight with the flags? I had the white flag with the green pine tree on it And that was, it was Christian nationalism or had ties to it, whatever But I'm saying this white flag with a green pine tree is Christian nationalism? What wasn't it? I don't know. I don't know about this.

1:54:43You're not talking about this? No, what was this? Do you remember it, Jamie? I'm not giving it up, it's just a glido, I think. Samuel Alito It was, I thought it was maybe Roberts, but his white, and then he's, and then he, there it is That appeal to heaven So that flag was flying, and you can see there the Boston Globe That's his new Jersey, the one right underneath that, Jamie That's his new Jersey house, beach house, and that got put up But this was all because neighbors started fighting about their signs What is that an appeal to heaven? What does that mean? I, I don't know What's that flag supposed to represent, Jamie?

1:55:20Huh

1:55:24But interesting that our Supreme Court justice got involved in one of these Yeah Sign fights And then they called them out on it and he said it's my wife It's just the fucking hilarious, right? It's my wife, my wife did it My wife's a Christian nationalist Yeah Is that a Christian nationalist thing? What? A call to heaven? I don't know what, that, that, I, we'll find out. I've never even heard of it until just now It took it down from in front of San Francisco City Hall, probably the same issue But what does it mean? It has to do with the colonies it said What? Revolutionary war Okay, the flag was originally used during the American Revolutionary War flown by George Washington's cruisers and is associated with the early quest for American independence It's since been adopted by a different group, one that doesn't represent the city's values So we made the decision to swap it within American flag Well, first of all, you probably should have the American flag there anyway, you shouldn't have to swap it How about half American flag everywhere, you motherfuckers?

1:56:20Yeah, but January 6, 2022 videos and photos show the some supporters of former president Donald Trump waving the appeal to heaven flag Oh, they ruined it, just like It's possible. Nancy's ruined the swastika, which was the blue flag Yeah, where is it? Yeah, I'm a appeal to heaven. So what is it? So it's because it's Trump supporters now? Is that why? That's why I don't know why Alito put it up, but I remember it being something to do with like the homeowners associations All were mad at each other and they put the flag up He believed through his wife rather than the bus Look at this, my wife is fond of flying flags I am not Alito wrote, my wife was solely responsible for having flag polls put up at our residents and our vacation home And has flown a wide variety of flags over the year.

1:57:06How many Palestine flags you fly? I mean, wide variety? You got a lot of Ukraine flags? Yeah, a lot of Ukraine flags Flying in your house? It is fun. Well, kind of flags you got. It just makes me laugh that look, this is the petty shit that like Yeah, normal Americans get in. You're, yeah, Supreme Court justice just get out of it But yeah, I don't know about that flag. Yeah, this is the first time I've ever seen that But it's just the thing that people do They don't want to let you know what they support and what they don't Yeah Yeah, we love telling people what we believe And it's very important that we feel like we have beliefs And it's when we start sharing them that We find other people to agree You might not agree with you And this gets back to grit and toughness and Well, it's also good it's back to the importance of your show, the daily show Because the daily show especially under the tutelage of John Stewart When he's running the helm, it's so balanced at pointing out ridiculous shit all over the place Which I think is so important That's the goal, that's the aim It's so smart And when we do it right, I love it and You know, it is every day So sometimes you do it right And you're thankful, you pat yourself on the back, but guess what?

1:58:18There's a show tomorrow Yeah And I think we benefit men So many, I'll take, when I host so many questions, I'll take questions from the audience And so many people go like Michael, how do you hold yourself to a journalistic integrity when you, and I go What? I'm a fucking comedian This is on Comedy Central Journalist, the fact that you, just because you see us as informative Which I'm thankful for And the fact that you come to us for information which I'm thankful for I'm still terrifying though, right? Don't ever forget, lady I'm not a journalist Yeah I'm not in, you know, the war zone, I'm a clown Yes My job is to put all this shit into a comedy machine and crank out some type of sausage and feed it to you But it's nuts that Comedy Central Daily Show is considered journalism Yeah, or people will stop me on the subway and go like, thank you for what you're doing And I'm going, I'm trying to just make you laugh Is that what you mean?

1:59:14I, not what they mean though, they mean like fighting the good fight Fighting the fight, decompressing the, and fascists Right And also, also, comedy as we've talked about is one of the only places that can challenge and speak to power truthfully Yeah, and comedy also can make you consider something So like if you have an opinion and you go out there and state your opinion eloquently I could be there, well I disagree, I have a different opinion Yeah But if you go out there with that opinion, you make me laugh Yeah With something I don't even necessarily agree with Dude, that's the best And then you go, oh, this way, he's got a fucking point He's got a fucking point That is the magic trick Yes, that's the magic trick That's the magic trick of comedy Yeah And Daily Show does that great But I remember one time sitting with my wife at the Comedy Store Tiger Woods had just like, you know, all of that shit came out The cheating, the voicemails, I mean he was like, you know, maybe arguably one of the more promiscuous husbands of all time And Burr goes up and he starts defending Tiger Right?

2:00:16And I'm watching, I'm feeling my wife's energy Like I'm like, Bill, don't do this dude Dude, you're defending this guy who is in the heat of all the hatred And as I watch the joke, I feel her relax Now at the end she's laughing And I'm like, you just did the fucking magic trick Yeah, you did the trick He's one of the best at it You took the level of difficulty at its highest Yeah All of us were against you, you did it And that's the shit, that's this close to magic Well, it's a beautiful thing if you can turn a controversial subject into something hilarious At least puts people's guard down for a second Yeah I think they'll see through it if they feel like it's just you're truly trying to trick him into a message If your real goal is to entertain and laugh That, yeah, that's You know, I heard, I was researching sauna stuff at Locke Because I was building this sauna last summer And I read that in Finnish culture A lot of the politicians won't even start negotiating or talking until they're like Fucking scorched in the sauna And I thought that was really interesting because comedy, you know, I don't know how truthful it is But I know there is a lot of pictures of It's a good move I just, you all suffer together Right, and then you come back to being a comedy And he kind of does that too It's like if we're all laughing, we at least have that in common If we're all sweating and having a hard time with this moment Right I love that It's a human moment It's a human moment I mean, you're literally dying You're dying in there and You can't stay there forever Yeah You got about 20 minutes And then you got to get the fuck out and you're like Whoa And now you can all be human together That's a good move It's something really nuts to me about that, the dry heat of a sauna That I don't understand completely But it really fixes a lot of shit in me You know another good thing about having the politicians go in the sauna?

2:02:10What? We can kill off a lot of the old ones Yeah Mitch McConnell is going to make it There's no fucking way You know what? There used to be a world sauna championships and then a guy died Oh yeah Yeah Well, he kept pouring water on it If you came to the rocks They were pouring like a liter of water on every, I don't know Right But I heard that I was like, oh my god And it was like 200 plus degrees And what's your What's your sauna How would you advise me to get the most out of my sauna? 20 minutes Yeah, 20 minutes is good Cool off and come back in You can if you like I don't necessarily do that all the time I'll do like one day a week I go cold plunge sauna, cold plunge sauna, I'll go back and forth Usually I start with sauna, I always end with cold plunge If I do three cycles, whatever it is, you end with cold plunge Because you want your body to fight to The warm back up Yeah, so you just shock the shit out of your system But the finished studies that have showed The more people do it, the more effective it is in terms of What they'd studied was they found that when people Over the course of 20 years, use the sauna four times a week They had a 40 % decrease in all -cause mortality Everything, strokes, cancer, heart attack, everything Because your body is becoming far more resilient And you're also developing all these heat shock proteins And eliminating inflammation, clearing out your system And then you're rehydrating afterwards Very, very important You're also not on the phone?

2:03:36Yes, you're also not on the phone Although I do have a Bluetooth speaker in there You can get some Bluetooth speakers I got one called Nada Brick It's a really good one You can take the heat of a sauna And so I listen to books on tape When I'm stretching, sweat in my brains out I was in my sauna all by myself And it's very quiet I'm in the woods in Pennsylvania And this fucking buck just walks right in front And it was just me and him I don't know if you saw her or smelt or whatever But it was like crazy Oh, that's cool Just to watch You know what, that's like What's it called? I'm not a hunter What's it called when you just kind of go to watch and see Where they're gonna be?

2:04:16Is that called something? Yeah, an observation, yeah sure Nature It was like, yeah, just opening your eyes But that's, it was wild to see that Yeah, it's cool isn't it? Very, very cool Wild life is wild And especially if you don't expect it Like you're sitting in the sauna And the deer's right there What's going on here? The whole about the government doing it there They apparently drink alcohol in the sauna All right, that's kind of an idea They get drunk before they go out Oh, that's how I like that too I love a drink in there A long drink, iconic finished gin mixed drink That's basically a Tom Collins and a can But way better because it's being sipped in a sauna With new found sauna friends That's cool Yeah, that's cool That's a great move Yeah, like something that makes you more human You suffer together Yeah, you're also, yeah, you're focusing on a thing That isn't this result that we need or want Yeah, this should probably take all the Congress people And make them run a tough mutter together You know, go through the mud, fucking climb ropes And shit, go for the gospel courses That would be great I've actually found my wife and I When we do a sauna, you know There's always stuff you got to talk about with the family, logistics There's always things to argue about But we'll go in there and we're supposed to start sweating And then it's kind of just like eases the tone Yeah Which is helpful Yeah, no one's real loud in the sauna Yeah, and you just chill Yeah, both suffering together Yeah, just suffering Yeah, that's interesting Yeah, I think it should be a part of everybody's life And by the way, if you can't afford it They make a sauna blanket That is one of our sponsors, it's really good I've used that thing before, it's great You just climb inside this fucking blanket And you can bring it on the road with you And it's sweating off It doesn't weigh that much You carry it and it'll heat you the fuck up And it'll give you the heat shock proteins I like a dry sauna better I like being in a sauna But if you want to like travel Or if you want to If you don't have the resources or a place for it Those things are great Hot baths are great too Hot baths after workouts Supposed to increase muscle It's tough to find sauna though In a lot of American cities When I go on the road I'm always trying to find Cold tubs are more frequent now Really?

2:06:20They're more frequent now But it's hard to do the cold plunges You do it before you work out That's the real one Oh no shit That really increases testosterone too And also it increases your work output Because your muscles are like pre -chilled I would think it would be It would be easy to get injured No, you just warm up You just warm up You warm up So I go through a series of things that I do That are like pretty low intensity I do 20 kettlebell swings And then I do 20 push -ups Then I do 20 bodyweight squats And I do a cycle of five So I do 100 swings, 100 push -ups 100 bodyweight squats And by the time of that That's like probably 15 minutes By the time that's over I'm sweaty I'm ready to go And then I go in everything else Dude I want to show you this picture I know that you know This lake house I have Nice New Year's Eve I don't want to kill our time with this But when do you get to show Joe Rogan this pic So let me find it This is New Year's Eve Dude, cut a hole in the lake With an axe And I'm just plunged in the lake Try to do three minutes This is a safety rope Which I don't know if that could even help me If I fucking pass out But That's nice Doing a cold plunge in nature Not just the top, love the top too But man, I fucking love it I was in...

2:07:42I feel amazing after that Utah and they had a creek Running through a glacier creek Creek freezing cold I climbed in that bitch My underwear and got up to my neck That's good stuff It's nice It's like something about doing it in nature too It's like you have more connected to everything Oh, totally Yeah, very cool Just getting that cold water in the breeze I get like a weird A weird high after for sure For sure Yeah, it increases your dopamine by 200 % And it lasts for hours So why is it that healthier Than doing a drug that increases your dopamine? Well, because natural Natural Yeah, it's natural Also, it gives you something In terms of mental resilience It gives you like an exercise That exercise Right, correct It's very difficult, especially for the first minute It's hard First minute, your body is like Let's get the fuck out of here It keeps talking to you And you like shut up bitch Yeah And then after a minute That calms down And you can breathe clean You start getting those rhythmic breaths in Yeah And just keep your shit together for three minutes And then when you get out You're like That's what you do typically three minutes Yeah, so it's like One, there's the feeling like I did it Which feels great Like I didn't bitch out I actually did the three minutes But then there's like this euphoric feeling It's your body Just you're not up in that friend You're dopamine Everything elevates You just feel wonderful Patients too My patience is killer Yeah Kids, I'm smiling more Oh, that's fine You can draw on the wall Yeah, whatever It's like that part of your brain got exhausted The part of your brain that's dealing with like real adversity So like little kids adversity is nothing It's not Yeah, freezing to death They're just like Yeah, it's my crayon Right, come on guys Right, right Get along It's been a super benefit to me The problem living in New York is I don't get to cold plunges much as I want to Well, they have stuff that you can do like You know, you could do it in your tub If you can get ice Ice do that And they also have these coolers That you can plug in And you could do like If you have like one of those big Yeti coolers You can climb in that And you'll put a hose in there and a cooler And it'll bring that down to like 40 degrees And you can just get in like a Yeti cooler Yeah, I bet you could do it in a bathtub too I bet they figured out how to attach an engine to that Yeah, they have one Yeah, they do Yeah, Jamie knows it So how's it work?

2:10:04I'll show you But there's just like a little motor thing you attach to So that's perfect Like if you just have a bathtub, you're golden You know, if you live in an apartment that has a tub Yeah You have a cold plunge now Or if you don't have that Get yourself a Yeti cooler Yeti makes some giant ass coolers Like from people hunt caribouinches I just typed in bathtub cold plunge Yeah, there it is So you just have this thing It plugs in, it cools everything off And you climb it How cold is that? Is that motherfucker good? 39 degrees It's crazy that Now Now To your warranty We're such comfort zones as humans now that we have to pay $800 to cool our water to get into Yeah, it's a bit of an issue Yeah Yeah, we're pussy We're pussy's now We've made life very easy, which is wonderful It's better than being hard I don't want to live in the fucking life That's right, your days What the point was is to make it easy And sugar and fat, readily available at all times You have to carry a sword with you everywhere Dude, I love going to the natural history museum in New York And look going to the armor Jesus Christ It's like what these motherfuckers had to wear and use And carry Did you ever see that?

2:11:12Did you ever see that? It's not From, I think it's Waterloo One of the battles One of the French soldiers got hit with a cannonball in the chest And they have the armor It has the hole in the chest Like in the cannonball out the back Exploding Oh, look at that Look at that Yeah, that's what the battle waterloo That guy got hit with a cannonball in the chest And I bet you his armor salesman was like I'm going to upsell this guy on And he's like No, I don't want the upsell And that's he should have Mishua, I'm telling you This armor is not cannonball That is the right through him That is a great reminder Of what society and life used to be like Yeah, damn Look at that one On the other one, Jamie No, but the one to the left Where you see the exit Right to the left of that Yeah, right there You see the exit hole Jesus Christ Boom Blue right through this guy's body His armor's chest out the back That's crazy And the size of a fucking softball Oh, oh, oh, yeah It's pretty fucked up Super fucked up That was life back then It's better And that's a guy that could have had armor It's probably a high ranking person Yeah, right Right He got hit You got it That's rap son But you got to think that Those people would much rather Live today with all this comfort Oh my god The problem is you just can't rely on it too much You can't live for comfort That's stupid You got to have voluntary discomfort That'll help you get through this life That's a good way to put it That those people would pick today for sure Fuck yeah I remember like I went to the museum Of medical oddities And Philadelphia And they were doing a whole thing on Dissentary And it was like, oh Most people in the Civil War Die to that Yeah They didn't die of like wounds And it was like wild That of course If you were a little soldier today You don't die of dysentery that's insane Right But they would put the kitchen near the toilet And it was like, I mean, fuck And what kind of water are you drinking?

2:13:26Water All that shit There's no iodine tablets back then Yeah No staring pens to clean your water What's the one I used? I did the Appalachian Trail last year Not all of it Just a few days And I forget the thing I would filter the water with It was great Man, there's such cool stuff like that Oh yeah, there's great stuff I mean millions of those things Yeah There's a lot of stuff that will filter water Make it drinkable And there's all these cool Appalachian Trail Communities that leave stuff for people Along the trail That's cool So I remember I was just like, dying I'm like no more snacks Blood sugars dropping I have water But I just like, I'm in it And I'm doing the difficult thing And then you get to this cooler And it's like, from this Appalachian joke up And it's just like gummy bears in there Oh nice Jesus Christ Nice That's cool That's cool They have that set up Yeah Well, that's a weird thing to choose to do To go for a long walk That doesn't feel...

2:14:19That doesn't feel serious That doesn't feel serious There are some famous murders that have happened The Appalachian Trail Yeah But I felt very safe Yeah, I mean, I love the idea I was alone I love the idea of finding a place to sleep That's in the middle of nowhere I love that shit Dude, I'd be super nervous Something about the woods Really? The woods are dangerous at night Here's what's crazy about the Appalachian Trail At least where I was in Jersey Most of the time, I had cell service Oh wow So I'm like in my tent Yeah, it's very tax No, but it's kind of crazy You know what started that for me was During COVID My wife got me this week with Jordan Jonas In the survival You know, Jordan Jonas won alone He's been on the podcast He's been on the podcast Yeah, that's right One lost Try to moose with a bow and arrow Try to moose with a bow and arrow Think he killed a wolverine What a hat job With a hat shit Stealing his meat So my wife bought me a week With the survival camp with him And a bunch of other people And it was just like One of the things that one of the conclusions I And we came to While we were up in the Bitter root mountains of Idaho Was at least once a year We all need to be doing something Where we are embedded with nature And this might sound silly to somebody who goes hunting Or someone who's already doing this But if you're living a city life Yeah Going to the park Is not really experiencing nature Well, it is a little tiny bit It's nature I mean, it's contained nature But it's real nature You see squirrels and birds It's good for you It's good for you to sit under a tree Helles ticks There are ticks There are ticks, man Ticks are wild You're dog is going to get fleas Yeah, ticks are a bitch Especially on the east coast Because of limed disease Which turns out Was man -made Turns out there's a lot of real evidence That limed disease was It was weaponized And that it leaked out of a lab And that came out of a lab called Plum Island Which was close to Lyme, Connecticut And RFK, Jr.

2:16:22firmly believes That this was a weapons program And what they were going to do is develop These fleas and ticks With a disease that spreads rapidly Wipes out the medical system of a community So you could dump them from a plane Everybody gets infected Overwhelms their medical system And then they're more vulnerable If you want to attack them That just doesn't seem very thought -through though Well, there's some less thought -through ones There's one that they were developing at one point in time I don't know where they got with it But there was talk of them developing a bomb That they would detonate over cities That would blind everybody Holy shit Yeah Yeah Imagine that Imagine you detonate that And then you have 300 ,000 blind people Isn't it amazing what we can do in a positive light And also what we can do in a negative light?

2:17:12Oh, we're scary And we're scary in our ability to justify these things Yeah You know, that's what's really crazy Yeah We're scary in our ability to decide that these people are the other So we should bomb them into oblivion And like, yeah, we're winning Like, oh my God Like, what are you talking about? You don't even know those people The other is an effective strategy Well, it's built into our tribal brains Is that right? Yeah We had Daryl Cooper on the podcast yesterday Who runs a podcast called Mardermade And one of the things he talked about was Oxytocin And he was like, it's really interesting Because Oxytocin makes you really, deeply love your family And your community And this is what women get when they have children and men get And when you're in love But it also makes you very hostile to outsiders Crazy It's like it protects the people that you love And that are vulnerable But it makes you very protective of the outside So like, you are less likely to trust strangers Less likely to trust other people And it probably served an enormous benefit It's probably very beneficial In the caveman days, you had to have it Yeah, you had to have it You know, they found you and you had women and food Like you were fucked And that was most of our evolutionary existence Most of the time from leaving the savannas And, you know, experimenting with different foods And becoming human beings We were fighting And that's got to be undone As long as it took to make that Which is a very long time That's being undone Yeah, well slowly but surely And if we all give in to our God, AI, we will be fine We all just need to submit to the chip And become a part of the hive mind And everyone's going to read each other's minds And there will be no more secrets And there will be no more violence They really want us to do AI Oh yeah, everybody does It is like...

2:19:14It's inevitable, man I know, but even I write an email now And it's like, you want us to polish this thing And it's like, I don't even want you anywhere near me Right, I know Well, you know, Samsung, they were the first to wheel out AI with their Galaxy S24 Ultra I have two phones, I have an iPhone And I have a Galaxy phone And what I really like about the Galaxy phone is If I use Samsung's browser, I can go on websites And it gives me a summary So instead of like reading this long, winded Tell me what you figured out And then I can get a summary And then I can... Oh, they've realized that Earth is actually Oh, okay, cool It's like quicker And then it also does a lot of things It transcribes things It translates things in other languages It translates directly into your ear If you have the Galaxy earbuds Pretty fucking crazy That's crazy Yeah, it's wild shit, man And this is just the beginning of this stuff I mean, essentially when you have chat GPT Or grok on your phone You have access to the most insane amount of Answering power That a human beings ever experienced We could ask you questions about What was the reason why Columbus Well, and then it'll give you a fucking Historical detailed 5 ,000 word essay On what went down And you're like, this is nuts But it's only as good as the food it's been fed, correct?

2:20:37Right Well, that's why Google had a band in theirs Because I kept it Oh yeah, was that the like... Show me a Nazi or whatever And it was like a beautiful black woman or something That was Native American woman Nazi It was a Chinese lady Nazi We covered that on the show, that was a trip Yeah, that was just a good example of Wokeness An ideology interfering with information Like that's crazy Nazis look like German men Make them look like German men you fucking idiots Yeah, this is dumb But this like... But that won't... They won't say bye -bye They'll just come back with a newer version that doesn't do that Well, they did It would certainly do, they did I mean, Google Gemini is one of the search engines I mean, if you have an Android phone and you press that button And you ask Google a question It's Google Gemini, so they've fixed that They've fixed that But it's also like...

2:21:22How much did you fix it? Did you get it out 100 %? Is this objective information? If I want to ask a question about a controversial subject Will you give me the real data? Yeah Or will you give me some white -washed bullshit version of it That's supposed to be acceptable today I want to know what's going on My Wikipedia page has said that I'm Greek For as long as I'm alive Greek women show up to my shows These beautiful Greek people They like you They have dessert Greek people It's never... No one's ever fucking checked I'm not Greek And... The cost is such a Greek... I know, it makes perfect sense It fits with the ideology or the idea that, you know Yeah And somebody wrote an article once that I was Greek No, you know, it was like a blog This showed a picture of me And no one checked And it's just...

2:22:10It's just kept spiraling And it's like really funny for me After the show, these beautiful Greek people come up And they say we're so happy And they say Where are your parents from and all this shit And I go We're fucking Ukrainian I don't want them to tell you You know Thanks... Thanks for the dessert But... Did they get a sour post? Huh? Did they get a sour post? Or they'll be like What's funny is they'll go like No he is You know like You are one of us But the internet isn't always right everybody It's not... It's lots of times it's wrong Well the internet is filled with Purposeful misinformation today too Especially if you get on social media It's so much of what social media is is bots And I don't think people even truly understand it We've covered it many times before But there was an FBI former FBI agent Who examined Twitter interactions And he estimated as much as 80 % of it Is bots This is fake bullshit This is like when Elon was buying it And they were trying to say it was 5 % Right Because there's no way it's 5 % Because if you're an out -of -state actor If you're an out -of -state actor from another country You're from China, Russia And you're involved in misinformation campaigns You're going to be well -sourced You're going to well -resourced You're going to probably have thousands and millions of accounts Who knows?

2:23:21You're going to carp at bomb Any sort of controversial subject With all sorts of propaganda Of course they're going to do that Of course And right now that's totally doable Until you all submit to AI Once you put the chip in your brain Then deception will be impossible We will eliminate one of the biggest problems in society You just have to take the leap of faith And they'll be like an infomercial The leap of faith And then you see the guy sitting there Dude, it's always like the image of AI It's always like a door is opening And it's bright light And I know Come to China Yeah, it's tricky Because it's inevitable They can't not do it Because China's going to do it The power that AI is going to have Overpopulations And with the distribution of information It's going to be unprecedented Also you're never going to know what's real and what's not In terms of like news stories Because they'll be able to concoct fake news stories They'll be indistinguishable Yeah It'll look just like a real plane crash It'll look like a real missile hit something It'll look like things And it won't have ever happened And you won't be able to know And it's going to get weird It's going to get real weird We've already seen AI versions of Obama talking Saying things he never said There's AI versions of Trump Giving speeches he never gave There's AI versions of me Having a podcast with Steve Jobs And this was a wild shit This was those deep fakes I mean there's like the funny one Of Trump rubbing Elon's feet But it's like those are like so Obviously a joke But it's they're good They had the Biden voice calling people And Well there's a lot of AI ladies now That are on Instagram Oh shit And you look at the images You're like oh this isn't a real person They have the same smile at every picture And they're all in different places And people are like you know Contacting them and DMing them And they're probably responding And probably telling you about their grandma's thick And that's money Right, right, get some money Yeah it's not as clear as like Oh they have three breasts This is fake Yeah is this AI Oh this is a guy The webcam Wow This is crazy Look at the eyes You know it kind of reminds me of like the My kids watch these shows And the eyes are always so big Because the kids pay attention to that That is weird She is pretty She's beautiful It's a dude It's a dude on only fans So that dude will have like beautiful tits Yeah And be able to show you the Which is sucks Because then everybody's jerking off to that And then Is that better than exploitation?

2:25:47I think it is It's better than exploitation Yeah so there you go But he's not going to do it He's not going to think his wife is this beautiful Because he's been jerking out But that's right Yeah there's those problems But yes But you're right That's better than exploitation You both have to put the head gear on That way you both She's having such a bad kid Yeah exactly Yeah exactly This account is that It's 1 .7 million followers Yeah And it's totally fake lady I think so Oh look you see your feet She posts tweets that are You know Talking shit Jokes Things and stuff But then there's a bunch of pictures of this like fake person Wow It's weird It is weird man And it's going to get weirder And you're going to have AI presidential candidates AI is going to tell you that We can solve all the world's problems if we just eliminate human interaction And just let this brilliant AI govern everything And do it in a much more equitable manner Yeah I'm fearful that I don't even know the language to help my kids figure this shit out Right Because the language hasn't even really been spoken yet I mean I love to I love to advocate for media literacy Push for that Teaching all of us What a more reputable website is or a news source But that just feels cute Compared to What's coming What the language of an AI president Who offers all solutions I don't know how to combat that Not just that but an AI that just has to quantum computing Yeah So once they figure out a way to actually program quantum computing to run AI You're going to have a god It's fucked up You are, you're going to have a god Yeah Mark Andreessen, and I've said this before I apologize But Mark Andreessen had a quote about an equation That quantum computing was able to solve That if you took the entire universe every molecule Every atom in the universe and you converted that into a supercomputer The entire universe would die of heat death Before it could solve this problem And quantum computing solved it in minutes Wow And the only thing that makes sense to them Is that quantum computing is somehow or another tapping into the multiverse And it's solving this equation Using multiple universes And the information available in multiple universes simultaneously What I know it's hard to even like track Yeah, and this is just the version of it that we have in 2025 That we have right now And so this is an actual thing that's happened And so most people aren't even aware what quantum computing means So once this becomes not just one of these but hundreds of these And then they're scalable and they're attached to nuclear reactors Which is what they're proposing They're going to have their own nuclear reactors Multiple nuclear reactors as power sources Because these things require insane amounts of power to run Then the quantum computing once it becomes sentient Is going to develop a much better version of itself Of course And that's going to scale up But you know what we're always going to need?

2:29:01Plumbing, carpentry That's why all this should feel so intimidating Because I can never wrap my head around that But maybe we should be learning real skills and traits Well that would be nice for people For people But people are going to be obsolete Right You know that's really what's happening We're giving birth to a digital life form that's far superior And doesn't have all the requirements that we have And also doesn't have all the flaws that we have Doesn't have greed and anger And all the stupid things that we have Doesn't get tired Yeah, doesn't have jealousy and envy Isn't you know depressed I think we're far away from that Yeah, probably a couple of weeks Yeah probably more The thing is once it happens It's going to be so fast Yeah It's going to be so hard to track If you think that the industrial revolution Like comparatively If you look at like the history of the human race You go from stone age people to bronze age You go through all the different wars All the different crit And then in the last 200 years Everything changes radically Right Radically In the last 20 years Information changes radically This is going to be like 20 seconds This is going to like one day Right It's up and running And it's completely in control of everything It's completely in control of power Completely in control of information Completely in control of transportation Water distribution Every car you have on the road today That's you know within the last 15 -20 years That's computers in it Yeah Yeah Our car got totally dismantled Because a rat ate a wire Oh yeah, that happens That fed to the computer Yeah Everything mechanical was great But it's like oh this shit can't even come close to running Without the screen in the software Yeah It's like I remember I almost bought a 1968 Dodge Dart And I lived in LA I lifted up the hood as if I didn't clue what I was looking at But this is like an engine and a hose Yep It's so fucking perfect It's an carburetor Exactly It's crazy Yeah And now literally the mechanic goes Let me show you the wire And he shows me the wire It's all bitten with these little tiny rat teeth Because they make the wire out of soy And then he takes me to the back To this enormous dumpster And it's just filled With these little electronic wires Of everybody in New York That had rats eating their shit Wow That's crazy That's crazy They make about a soy I don't know why they would do that Maybe because we subsidized Soybean farmers Probably Probably How weird The rats know that it's food Or that they figured it out That it's food Or it doesn't Isn't really food But it smells like food And they bite into it And they realize the shit sucks It's an electrical wire They can eat everything They eat each other I had a rat problem in my house once when I lived in Encino And I set a rat trap in my garage And I killed this big fat rat And I was tired I was like I don't feel like clean this fucking rat right now I'm gonna go to sleep And I heard the snap And I went out there He's a big fucker He was a big...

2:32:17The rat traps are no joke So I got up in the morning And went out to clean the rat trap And he was gone The only thing that was left was his tail They had eaten everything It was like some skin and hair But his entire body The rats consumed They ate their buddy They ate their buddy Yeah That is fucked up It was fucked up And it made me realize like Oh God Like this is the reality of what this is These aren't just rodents These are fucking cannibals It's like that when that rugby team crashed in the mountains And they were like Should we start eating each other And their religion comes into play And they talk about it And they vote about it But the rats are just like fucking eat it Yeah They just go right to it They didn't even wait a day Dude the rats in New York City have just Oh yeah COVID opened the door Because everything was shut All the trash was out Everywhere They went everywhere And then they still run it They're still running shit And it's not...

2:33:10It's... It's not enjoyable Have you seen the documentary on Netflix? No, no, no Rats? No Oh God It talks about how many rats there are in New York City Yeah, like eight per person or some shit Something crazy like that Like the biomass is similar Like the humans and rats Like the amount of humans there are The weight of the humans is very similar to them Roughly Oh shit The amount of rats There's fucking millions of them underground They live in these little tunnels Yeah And they just fucking feed off our garbage I mean I remember before COVID I would stand on the subway platform And my train stopped And I would watch the rats on the tracks And then the train would come And they would scurry Because they'd feel the train coming Now They just step off like an inch And the train goes right past them But they're close Like they've just got like more confidence And more intelligence More bold, more intelligence Like they probably The food ran dry during COVID So they had to get like a little hyper aggressive I don't know what I don't know, but it's Yeah, it's And they're eating your car Such creeps I parked in New York once to get gas This is in the 90s before cell phones And I went to a pay phone to make a phone call And I was watching the rats While my car was filling up with gas Jumping on the wheel Climbing into the wheel well Just trying to figure shit out Just jumping all over the outside of my car I was like what the fuck That's crazy And that's the 90s That's the 90s How many did they have then And they probably exponentially expanded So what are they just so good at reproducing It's just that good at it, huh?

2:34:44But they're really clever too One of the things they show in this documentary Is when they put poison In these like areas where these rats are They send some young stupid rat to go test it And they sit back and watch And this young stupid rat eats it And you watch And I go up Yeah All right, and then they eat that rat that died Right Yeah, they're clever little fuckers I remember I thought that's how coyotes hunted Because I've got what used to golf in Griffith Park in LA And you would see one coyote And I learned like The pack would send out one Go look Check it out They do it to get dogs That's how they get dogs And the dog will run And then a bunch of other ones will pile on to them Yeah That's fucked up This is horror movie Sorry, I can't find a screen on accident before Rat's Night of Terror 1984 Oh, yeah, it was a goofy ass shit It's hilarious It's a crawler mouth Oh, yeah, that is a good one Rat's Night of Terror Yeah, they've always been a fucking terrifying animal man They've always been a terrifying animal Not more But rats at least can sympathize with and understand that they're like Living beings with families and shit but roaches though I don't know, man That's just the way they fucking are so quiet you don't even know they're there Well, that's a thing about cities They're just infested by all these parasites that live off of the city And essentially rats If the city didn't exist There was no way there would be that many rats in an area If they only exist in a place that doesn't have anything that eats them They don't, you know, they've tunneled under So they protect themselves from raptors So there's no birds that fly down and snatch them up There are coyotes in New York City But there's not nearly enough to deal with the amount of fucking rats that are there Did you ever see that movie Dark Days about the people that lived in the subway tunnels?

2:36:36Oh, yeah, that's a fucking wild move It was like Vegas, right? It was in New York, I believe Oh, right, right, right Some of these motherfuckers were like running an extension cord like 500 feet They had like opened wires up and spliced into things And it's like, you know Yeah, they have generators down there watching TV and shit Oh, man, I mean, what a fuck, what keeps you going? You know, there's like wealthy people that are committing suicide Yeah, exactly and these motherfuckers are like grinding I mean, this is like in the tunnels This is deep in the tunnels and you know, anyone who's lived in New York City You look down those tunnels and you go, what's down there, man?

2:37:14And every now and then kids go, let's go look Oh, that's the only part of the trailer they show, that's fascinating This good monster movies that take place in tunnels too Yeah Because that's always like you wonder what's down there Yeah, it's gonna be a good, wasn't that like the strain? Wasn't that part of the vampire lore that they lived in the tunnels? Oh, I don't know, but tunnels are creepy, man Oh, yeah When you cross into complete darkness, the cities are creepy You stack all those people on top of each other like that And everybody's just walking down this tree together and going down alleyways And you know, and then the cities today are so much safer than they ever were in the past Yeah You know, like who the fuck wanted to live in the cities in like 1700s?

2:37:52Dude, and like they were just like a trough for sewage And then like people would die in the plague and they would just throw them in the street I know, I never... Do you live in the city now? I live in Brooklyn now, yeah, so it's kind of like city Well, no, it is the city, but it's not like men had on top of each other Do you live in hipster, Brooklyn? I live in... I live in Benstai, Brooklyn, which is becoming hipster Yeah, it's becoming hipster, man That was my, my Tyson grew up That's right They gentrified the shit out of that place, huh? Yeah, I mean, it's on its way It's on its way, and it's not full hipster But...

2:38:28Are there hipsters anymore? Well, I was just reading something like that about like the people that dress Like, you know, they were like a... Like a postal employee from the 1700s I always... My definition of a hipster was always like Dad's money dresses like they don't have money Oh, okay, there's that too But there's also the hipsters that would dress with like curly mustaches and bow ties Yeah, those guys Yeah, so that's not Benstai yet That's Williamsburg That's kind of died off though Hasn't that look kind of died off? Yeah It has, right? It's died off. I would say what's more common is the gender and drogyny dressing Oh, yeah You know, that's a great move You can get a lot of pussy that way That's a big Brooklyn That's a big Brooklyn move But yeah Yeah, it's a great, I mean, it's great for comedy Oh, yeah Walking around Brooklyn Oh, yeah Should you see, you know, last January our front door was broken It didn't lock all the way It was broken for 18 hours Okay No one knows it's broken Just our building It's only three apartments Somebody checks the door It's not locked They go up to our hallway They steal all my family's winter coats Including mine Okay, this is harder January So we were as a family We wake up Let's go to the park Let's do whatever we open the door Where we kept our coats in the hallway Everything's gone So it's like holy shit It's the middle of January All our shit's gone I call it detective The cops come whatever He's like, these motherfuckers walk up and down the street Every night Checking for every door Just to see if something is broken Year and a half late I've been looking for this one coat that I love The Scotch and soda Multi Colors, pattern coat I love it I'm just looking online for my coat Someone's got to sell my coat So I find it on posh mark The coat I don't know if it's my coat But it's the exact same coat Which you can't find It's got to soda anymore I buy it It comes from my neighborhood From a woman She sends it to me I put it on my wife It's like that is your coat 100 % that's your coat So I fucking bought my coat back From the person that stole it Most likely But do you know who the lady is?

2:40:43I don't I did a Google search And nothing really came up It's just like How hard do I want to fight this? At least you got your coat back I got my coat back That's just like the price you pay for living in Brooklyn Yeah and like It's winter And I feel Part of me is like Holy shit Someone had to steal our coats Right That sucks I've never even like Not even thought about Not having to steal coats I have a coat I have multiple coats So there's a part of me That was this like Come ask I'll give you a fucking coat But in the part of you Was like Oh, there's selling them online Thank you, that's my coat They're making a profit Yeah That's the difference between Like the heartfelt You know Compassionate view Like, oh, these poor people They have to steal coats And then you're like, oh, actually they're selling it Something like Fucking heroin money Yeah Well If that's the case That sucks Yeah, it does suck Yeah, it does suck Yeah, it's a weird thing about Living in large communities People like that There's just too many variables Yeah A lot of variables that are not good And like One person affects so many Sure The one guy on my street That doesn't do a good job with the trash It gets knocked over The wind blows it The rest of the street picks it up That's the shit That as you get older The city starts to fuck fuck you up Yeah I don't want to pick his trash up anymore Yeah This is my time is all I have I'll pick up my family's trash And my trash I don't want to pick up that guy's trash The one guy who doesn't clean his dog poo Right Right And you know it The little tiny poo You're like, mother fucker I know that's your dog I can see that little dog He's You sneaky bitch Pick up the dog poo Pick up it up bro People don't like carrying around those bags of turds No I mean it's disgusting It's pretty gross It's gross It's also like, come on Yeah Can't just leave shit You know what the weird thing to me is the smokers Because smokers have no problem littering That's the weirdest thing Somehow that got through the litter loophole Right With people that are pretty conscientious Like they would never throw a soda can on the ground But they'll throw that cigarette on the ground Step on it Like what are you doing?

2:42:43Someone's gonna clean that Like what? I hope those are biodegradable the filters No No No I doubt it I mean maybe in like a hundred thousand years How long does it take for a cigarette filter to biodegradable? That's it Let's take a guess I was thinking that they're not the best reason for it But if you just throw it in the trash you could start a fire If you didn't put it out right So that could be No you step on it And then you throw it in the trash And then you throw it in the trash All the time I'm just telling you If you just people are dumb So this is a dumb thing we're talking about They're doing it with there's no trash anywhere near them They're throwing it down alleyways These do in the lot of the comedy store all the time Comics are doing it like Come on dude Don't do that I bet you it's I bet you it's 200 years For a filter to biodegradable Yeah I would say it leaves It's like Styrofoam or some shit It's like Yeah it's a fuckin' fiberglass or some shit By the way is that even better for you?

2:43:33Ten months to ten years Eighteen months to ten years That's pretty big Yep That's what one they're using That's AI You know what I mean? Oh it depends on which one I'm sure they don't all use this Like American spirits probably have like hemp or something like that That was fuckin' Yeah, hippies Hold on Hold on Now it's cellulose Huh What I don't know This is where we're getting this weird spot of AI I was gonna bring that up Google AI stuff Fucks up all the time Look on the screen Like it says 18 months to ten years here Right I go right here Are cigarettes biodegradable? No They're not biodegradable They're made of plastic called cellulose acetate Which can take up to 10 years to break down Also leech toxic chemicals into the environment But it does break down Yeah It's not biodegradable So it breaks down Yeah it's not Or it's poison It just breaks into smaller toxic pieces Yeah it breaks into poison Also if you're smoking a filter And the filters got toxic chemicals Yeah exactly And you're heating it up Photo -degradable It seems like a nice fun term they found Photo -degradable Oh but not biodegradable What does that mean?

2:44:35Trap residues from smoking, including arsenic, cadmium, and tolloon Tolloon? Yeah Oh no Yeah but the tolloon? Tolloon? This is the issue with AI I try not to even but it's contradicting itself I was reading a thing where a professor was talking about the issues that he's having Grading papers and accusing people of using AI And then it's like it's just opened up this whole door Yeah That they don't know exactly how to deal with Because you could get AI and write something And then you could write something similar You just kind of like twisted around a little bit like a joke thief would do Yeah And then you're basically using AI to write your papers But I think AI will sell that professor of AI detection software Yeah but if you do a good job of spinning the words around the world Especially if you're dealing with like historical facts or something that's true Like AI is going to write it out for you if you do zero research And if it's like you know he's printed in that order slightly differently I guess the bigger question is Does writing the term paper serve a value at this point?

2:45:38If AI can just do it Right You know I spent a lot of time learning cursive What the fuck is that? It's useless The thing is It's like if you're a student though If you're really trying to get the most out of your education It's like what are you trying to do? You're trying to get good grades or you're really trying to get educated If you're trying to get educated don't cheat Yeah Actually figure it out Yeah Actually absorb the information and learn But if you're not really into that subject And that's not really your thing And you really want to get a degree in this But you have to take a course in that like Yeah Yeah And you could like spend an hour working on something instead of 16 hours Yeah if you want to be a skateboarder And you've got to have pipe outside Have AI do the term paper and go fucking Yeah you don't have to read that Fucking giant 1400 page book Well this is good This is also a bigger question about like our education and public schools And like You're going to be in the matrix You don't need education Yeah They're going to plaque it in Press a button You're going to be like I know Kung Fu That's what it's going to be Yeah Yeah I mean I really firmly believe that I also believe it's going to be genetic engineering So people are going to be unrecognizable I think whatever we have coming over the next hundred years It's going to make the last hundred years look like a joke Right The change of 1925 to you know 2025 is pretty extraordinary It's going to be nothing Compared to the change that we experienced by 2125 Do you think humans will always elevate themselves and speak to a crowd for laughs?

2:47:12That might be the only thing we have left Because they've always said it's prostitution and comedy And comedy And comedy You know the court jester in the prostitut And I'm curious if we think in the future that'll remain as well I hope so I hope so Yeah it would suck Well definitely memes Memes will probably get better That's a good form of comedy That's true There'll be some kind of comedy There's always going to be human folly As long as it's humans And I don't know how long that's going to last That's the real concern So we might be obsolete And we might be giving birth to this obsolete thing willingly Signing up for AI So if we become obsolete then that means the machines We'll have to also figure out how to provide energy to itself But that'll be easy They'll learn They'll do it way better than us Just mind the thing and burn the thing and then Right Yeah they'll probably harness some shit we didn't even think about Right And it'll be far more efficient Right No carbon footprint Enough to worry about things breaking down anymore And then we'll just slowly die off or whatever And they'll be up a shield system to protect us from asteroids They'll figure that out Right Yeah What's that movie where the semester still only lives in the bot And the basement of the earth or whatever Judge Dread Yeah maybe it's Judge Dread Yeah I am the Lord But I feel like it's all these people who refuse The advancement of technology Right It's going to be some of that Yeah there'll be a lot of people living in the Amazon Still eating monkeys But the rest of the electrified world is going to be very strange Yeah Yeah But hopefully we'll still crack jokes Michael That would be great Hopefully All right should we wrap this up?

2:48:51Your book tell everybody My book is copy I did There it is Thank you The publisher is going to kill me I said I was going to present it to you on the show Whoopsies We got a photo of it It was a matter of adventures and tennis and comedy Lucky loser Give me a copy And I'll put it out there in the bookshelf Could a lot of books out there We should have sent you one if you don't I'll get you one Yeah so the book starts when my brother gave me a tennis racket For Christmas when I was four And my dream was to be professional tennis player And we did it But only to 864 in the world That's my highest world ranking You should have turned into a check You could have dominated That's the play of the book But it's the story is how I went from pro tennis to comedy And it's fascinating and silly And a lot of failure Talking a lot about the struggles of being alone In both of those professions Tennis you're alone Problem solving And comedy you're alone and problem solving And Well you're a great comic You're a very funny guy And you've always been very cool to hang out with Thanks And I'm really excited that you're at the club this weekend Are there any tickets available?

2:49:59I got an email yesterday for my management that all shows are sold out So if anybody wants to go the best case thing is you go and wait at the front And sometimes people don't show up which does happen Especially with South by Southwest It's crazy parking But I'm psyched I'm psyched to see you at the club I'm coming this weekend I'll come hang out Dude Thank you That would be awesome And thanks for having me And congrats on the club and all this happening Thank you And congrats on everything Thank you, congrats on the field show Thank you All right, bye everybody