#2291 - Bert Kreischer

35:33It doesn't mean you're racist It just means that some stories take place in Norway and they involve Vikings Okay, this is like just a part of human history, you know some places Some stories take place in Egypt and they involve Africans. Okay, it's like there's plenty of room for every kind of fucking story But if you only want like a specific type of story to win an Academy Award, you don't get the Godfather Daylight savings is coming so we're about to lose an hour and that means trying to speed up your morning But if you drink AG1 maybe you're fine with it It's that quick and easy to help your body feel great every day starting your day with AG1 can help you shake off the Groginess get back into your rhythm and even give you the boost you need to make the most of that extra hour of sunlight Maybe even turning you into the morning person you've always wanted to be AG1 rules I drank it for a long time now and seriously.

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37:16Yeah, we're all fucking banger movies at everyone's all that everyone's all best picture one best picture because it was best picture Not because it was the best picture about a trans social worker that got adopted in Exactly exactly Yeah, they got distorted they get distorted with what the job is the job is just to purely entertain people and with a great piece of work That's all it is That's the whole job and that could be pulp fiction. You know, there's no message in pulp Fixing it's not it's like it's like it's a Message we took away was that white guys could see the end work Yes, we were like you know, it was you have a gun in your hand you could do it, but the whole Movies just madness But it's amazing.

38:02It's you can't deny how great it is Like that's supposed to be what the best movie is it's not supposed to be so I don't even know if that one best film did it win best film It pulp fiction win best picture It should have won best picture him and Roger Avery together. We'll fuck one best pictures. Oh That's right. We actually talked about that on the podcast actually unforgiven that year, but I'll maybe make sure Forgiven was a fucking great movie fucking great movie God That was clean Eastwood going back and cleaning up all his old Westerns That's what that movie was it's like let me show you is probably really like Was really like not not this you know fucking you everybody's looking at your sideways No the reality was that character that he played that old assassin what year do you think Movies stopped being great movies and started being like what year did we switch?

39:02I think people are still making great movies, but they're not winning Oscars. Well, I think who cares? I really do I think the I once Will Smith slapped Chris rock the Oscars to me like what I'm done I'm done like you guys and then they all applauded them and gave him a standing ovation afterwards when you won an Oscar I'm done forest Fuck your scump forest Demption every movie on there Quixho Quixho was great. I never saw four weddings in a funeral. It was great though dude It made you want a day to fucking British check. I made you want to have a rich friend live in a castle get drunk watch a friend die and fucking Okay Look it that makes sense that that was best film.

39:47What a amazing year Shawshank pulp fiction quiz show Quixho was fucking great. Yeah By the way, that was that was a real thing. Yeah, yeah, they really fucking rigged a quiz show That's why there's like there's all sorts of rules if you're running a game show because I was on a game show fear factor It was my best way to get people away from me if they asked me how do we get on fear factor? I go if you want to get on you can't even talk to me because if you talk to me Then I'll have previously known you then it could be seen that I helped you get on the show so I can't talk to you That's great the great work around It was true.

40:25Yeah, sorry To they have they had someone did they have someone like really judging the how the like horse sperm Going like we're judging it like like like a like an official officiating it because it was prize money Meaning like the quiz Quixho was all about them breaking the rules right and you had to have someone a standards and practice guy on your team Making sure the game was fair for everyone correct. Yeah, I think there was something like that I think I guess the network just did that I think we kind of ran the idea or they ran the ideas by the network and the network decided You know whether or not this was fair or what would have you but everything was always fair like that show was You know nobody got knowledge of the stunt before they got there We blindfolded everybody they were traveling around in vans.

41:12There would be blindfolds Sometimes they cover their ear so they couldn't even hear and then they would take their blindfolds off and then right there And then they would find out what they had to do So right there and then they find out they got to get covered in snakes or something like that and we knew that someone had a fierce Nakes because you feel out of form, you know if you got a fierce nakes guess what you might wind up on the snake episode You know it was a fucking crazy show But you know it was all fair But that quixho they you know they figured it out like the mob figured out the fucking lottery You know why do you bulge or won the lottery twice?

41:48Did he really yeah, you know bold you have to be to be a gangster in South Boston and not just win the lottery once The lottery twice like see me find that How do you wait? How do you rig the numbers that big? That's crazy you can you can kind of get away with stuff before the internet Before the internet you could get away with things like that We could kind of rig the lottery a couple times and everybody's like why do you want again?

42:19That's great when I was a kid and I was living in Boston. I said teach one of his hitman. I Talked one of his hitman Taikwondo What's it like teaching a hitman? It's weird. Are they good students? Yeah, he was very very disciplined. Yeah, he was like a known He was a known guy in the the South Boston Irish mob And you wanted to learn how to fight Lottery winner had been one of bulge's brilliant schemes to launder his drug extortion loan sharky money back in the summer Which makes sense right what better way to why do I yet? Why do you have a Cadillac? I won the fucking lottery Yeah, we're clear so you could have all your shit so Bull Millions lottery ticket have been purchased to the South Boston liquor mark by Michael Linsky who was the brother of a Bulger underling named Patrick Linsky the FBI learned that once why do you heard about the jackpot?

43:15He ordered the real winner to sign the ticket over with why the two associates paying 2 .3 million dollars in cash for a 50 % of the winnings Bulger himself paid Linsky 700 ,000 all the Linsky lost money in the deal. He really had no choice He came down to selling the ticket or risking his life Kevin Weeks whose name also appeared in the winning lottery The winning ticket later claimed that Linsky purchased a large batch of tickets to hand out his Christmas gifts and Promise to split any winnings with bulger and weeks, but week story makes little sense the so -called Christmas gifts were purchased during the dog days of summer So they did it the scam set up a 20 year legitimate income stream for whitey where he earned $19 ,000 each year.

44:00Oh, yeah, yeah, so that's what he did He found out that somebody wanted he's totally tuned into the neighborhood Find that guy fuck him over take his ticket look. I won the lottery and you have no choice It's just like when the guy hit goddy's Grand sum of the car, right? Yeah, yeah, you got a die now. Yeah, you're dead Yeah, yeah, if you lived in that that time like in the 1980s when I used to teach this guy Taikwondo Like you would always hear about hits. I knew a guy who got arrested. I He was the guy that I was friends with His name was richy. I was friends with him before he went to jail and then I was Kind of friends with them when he got out of jail before I realized that he was like very dangerous now He was a completely different person.

44:49So he went away to jail. He was a little older than me I was 18 so he was probably 20 or 21 and went to jail on some some kind of gun charge or drug charge So he comes out of jail a few years later and he's an animal. I mean an animal He's way bigger. He's he's put on like 30 pounds of muscle and he's seen way too much He was telling me stories about fights that he used to get into in the jail where he beat some guy Half to death with a broom handle and that you're fighting for your life in there It's like every day you're fighting for and he knew how to fight he was you know, I trained with them That's where I knew him.

45:31I knew him from Taikwondo and He was just telling me about fights to do getting jail He's like you have to fight. There's nothing you could do. It's constant You're constantly on edge and I'm like fuck man And so I had known this guy before jail and then I know them after jail and he was just way more dangerous after jail He was doing a lot of coke He would train and when you would train with him it was a fight I mean it was a fight. It wasn't you were fighting for your life You know I broke his whole face once I hit him with a wheel kick and that because we're fighting man I mean we were fighting we were and there was no one there by the way It was my gym.

46:10So it's just me and him like literally fighting. He was just attack you Like it wasn't like a technical sparring thing and back then I felt like I was a pussy if I didn't spar with anybody who Water spar like you want spar? Okay, what's bar? So you spar with everybody and some people you spar with some people They were you like let's just not hurt each other. Yeah, and then other people you knew you were fighting you It was bomb guys get knocked out all the time. I saw dozens of guys get knocked out in the gym all the time I did a lot of it. It was scary. It was scary. You would be super nervous before class You'd be super you have that and you're doing class every day.

46:48That's happening every day all the time I would be I have anxiety I have anxiety getting on planes. You're sparring three or four days a week Yeah, you're sparring three or four days a week if you're smart you have to you have to stay sharp So you broke this guy's face broke his face and he wanted to keep training He was still coming after me. I was like dude you got a look in the mirror look in the mirror and his whole face It's shifted. I hit him with a wheel kick in the cheek He went out his eyes rolled back in his head. He collapses down to his butt And then he tried to get back up slowly he gets back up and he's like I'm good I'm good.

47:24I'm good and then like 30 seconds later he wants to keep sparring and I'm like you got to stop But he was just a monster like a savage like a savage person He was a kid when I knew him like a normal kid like what's up Richie and then three or four years later Whatever it was when he got out. He was a monster Was there any hint of the old Richie where you could go? Hey man. What's going on? No, he was just gone No, he was gone. The old well, I didn't know the old Richie that well now. I'm thinking timeline so this was pre me doing stand up So I probably met him first when I was like 16 and Then I met him again when I was 21 there was somewhere around that 2021 because that's when I stopped fighting and it was like right around the same time where I knew Richie with our stop fighting so he got arrested There was a guy who was murdered and They broke every bone in his body with a hammer and they kept injecting him with cocaine to keep him alive Yeah, holy fuck yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they they they identified the body I forget how they identified the body but I'm pretty sure they chopped his hands and his head off and They found this guy and he got arrested for that and He got away he got off.

48:45I don't think they charged him I don't think he actually did it But he definitely knew people who did it he was involved with the same kind of people and This was like one of the guys that I worked out with but he wasn't the hit man the hit man was way more stoic really older Yeah, he was older he was in his thirties and the hit man was We come in with like hit man problems like all right, Sam and I asked me once how would I kill a guy really he said if you're gonna hit a guy and you were trying to kill him. Where would you hit him? I said probably the neck And he said yeah, I think so and that was the conversation those end the conversation I don't even know why I picked the neck cuz the neck actually could take a pretty good beating Extra pretty tough not mine your head is way weaker than your neck This is really weak like this little spot right here your temple There's a little tiny thin little layer of bone there that protects your brain.

49:36It's not big at all When was the last time you're punched? It's been a long time. I've sparred at all since like 2007 or eight like sparring yeah kickboxing sparring. Yeah, it's too Even little sparring wears on you you you carry that for your whole life Just thuds little thuds even ones that aren't that hard just a jab just a thud You carry those like those are real that's brain damage those those little times they get danged in the gym That's real that's brain damage that's brain damage and like I told you like when I was a kid We did a lot of brain damage It was a sparring just me I've had I've had I think eight concussions and I'm just I'm just a kid I didn't even spar I'm just talking like basketball camp one time football I play in football for the hurt birch it.

50:27I got knocked unconscious Like I've probably had eight concussions. I'm guessing you know, I've had a lot My last one was just a couple years ago skiing last time skiing you were I just talked to you the other day when you were skiing and I thought you didn't ski because of your knees well My name did get I did fracture one of the bones in the top of my Tibia No No, which ones the yeah, Tibia and then the fibula is the little one right? Fibia is in the yeah, I cracked I cracked the the the Tibia, but it's that healed But the real problem was the head my head I fell on my head I My my skis went up in the air and I hit the ground head first Yeah, and it was a helmet.

51:14Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure. Yeah, but it was a bang like I got rocked and I was like Oh shit like that was a big one and then the rest of the day I was like dizzy. I wasn't my balance was all bad It was not good. It was not good. And then I was like I'm done with the skiing thing because I always worried about my knees Because I still I you know, I still love doing martial arts and if I'm not doing it I don't feel good like I like to hit the back I like to have my joints work perfectly. I like to have my skills still there I like to do it. It's fun to do so anything that takes that away from me like Skien just for a thrill like we oh, oh, and once you get hurt once you break This episode is brought to you by life lock tax season is always stressful You have to worry about filing on time making sure you have all the right documents and getting all the deductions you possibly can It's overwhelming and by now I know we're all sick of looking at numbers But here's an important one that you should hear 16 .5 billion dollars That's how much money and refunds the IRS flag for possible identity fraud last year Here's another 20 % That's the overall increase in identity theft related tax fraud in 20 24 alone So luckily it isn't all bad news.

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54:58I mean fucked up and concrete sled must be so heavy You can find a picture of it type in a university Edmonton concrete sled I think it's that's what it's called and right before right before This is why people keep themselves occupied when they're so fucking bored because it's 38 degrees below zero outside Yeah, yeah, and do that's the coldest I've ever been my fingers See those concrete slides. There's one there where the guys get fucked up so bad I don't want to see it. It's so stupid, but the what the guy the team went right right before me They flipped flipped ragdoll yard sailed everywhere if these people tried bow hunting they would quit this They'd quit all this they wouldn't be doing any of this.

55:39This is ridiculous You could fucking die Oh a guy before me broke his femur And I remember they got the kid little stoner with the walkie that tells this all right you guys are next he goes What's that broken femur? It looks me go broken femur's a game changer And I was like I gotta go next like what the fuck like that was terrifying But yeah, I I think about that sometimes just having my elbow surgery I gained so much weight from just having one arm because I couldn't do it couldn't get on the tribe I like couldn't do anything that I go any injury is like I don't want any injury Yeah, injuries are not good and this is coming from a person who's out of bunch of surgeries I don't know but I've had three knee surgeries had my nose operated on.

56:22Oh, let me tell you my game changer mouth tape You were talking about this game changer Game changer I know people say this and I know it's like one of those fucking Fitness influencer things where people are selling something I got no skin in the game. Okay. I'm not selling nothing I don't have anything for sale. I use a company called hostage tape. I'm sure there's other ones that are great But the hostage tape makes me laugh It's you take this tape and you put it over your mouth when you sleep now I have sleep apnea so I wear a mouthpiece and my mouthpiece has a tongue depressor So the mouthpiece is fitted to my lower my lower jaw and the tongue depressor keeps my tongue from falling back on my throat So I don't block my airway because I have a big tongue and I have a fat neck So it's like the air hole it gets clogged up by the tongue So the tongue depressor works and then I put the tape over my mouth So I'm not using my mouth at all.

57:21Thank God. I got my nose fixed in like 15 years ago something like that best decision I've ever made my life best decision. I've ever made one of the best Is that the one where you had to like pull shit out of your nose? Yeah, yeah, yeah Was I was on the road with Tommy and I would show him the boogers and he would like like almost vomit because the boogers were insane So once you get your nose operated on like I had probably 12 nose breaks maybe more by the time I got my nose operated on so the inside of it was all Calcified like all the inside just like cauliflower ear that was the inside of my nose like it was all just clogged I spoke like my nose was stuffed.

58:09This was how my voice was wait hold on is this because I hear I Listen to a version of your voice when you were younger. Yeah, and it sounds totally different It's almost like older your voice definitely deeper. So that's me with the way that's you. Yeah, when I got the nose plugs So that's after the operation so um Oh my god, I think your nose is well, it's all swollen. I know Anyway, so You if you have a deviated septum. I can't recommend it enough It's such a huge thing to do it opens up your nose and you get like 10 % more cardio my jujitsu changed totally Like my my gas and jujitsu was way better.

58:51I was like this is crazy. Why did I do this along the time? I'm breathing through your nose and not your mouth no because you breathe through both. Oh, so you have more airs coming in This how you tell if you have a deviated septum put a mirror underneath or put take your phone into a room video And then breathe through your nose and if it closes like my mind shuts Yeah, and that's the show that to me. Yeah, you have a deviated septum. I have a dude You know happens to me when I sleep. Yeah, fucking ghoul swells up. Yeah, you were telling me. It's a fucking worst Yeah, we were trying to decide what where the tonsils were and you were explaining the tonsils are actually on the side And your wife was calling it a ghoul She's the redneck She's this little there's ginsengas well little thing whatever the word is the detective is a uvula It's uvulitis.

59:32So I put the mouthpiece in and then I I get no uvulitis if I had mouthpicked tape in Yeah, so this is the thing. I don't snore at all anymore zero snoring Like I'm silent no no sleep mask No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, but I woke up the first day I did it. I was like holy shit I feel so much better like instantaneously noticed a difference like I was like 30 % more rested Something like that like I just like a significant number where I could like feel it I was like whoa, and I've been doing it that way for like a week now So if I put if I put those nose strips on because I can breathe through my nose if I have a You get your nose operated on no fucking way.

1:00:12Yeah, I have a You should get that done to no, yeah, you should it's the worst your guts are gonna poke out of your stomach That's what it is they already do judge that's gross. No, me your guts guts. No, no, they do do do they poke out right now? Hey, let me see no show me Okay, can you make it poke out? No, but like You can kind of see this where's the iron yeah? It's called it's like a fin. Oh, it's oh, it's bad if I do a sit up like it. I'll show you for real and you'll see it. Okay I'm watching Brett do a sit -up ladies and gentlemen Oh, that's scary dude That's so that's a rip in the center of your stomach.

1:00:52I remember when it happened. Oh, dude. How long ago? Uh probably 12 years ago. Oh my god. I was doing a tough mother Oh god, I had to pull myself up one of those half pipes That's why ran and I grabbed it and I pulled and I pulled and I felt a tear and I was like whoa It's just and I was like god man that fucking hurt what what happened? And I was like, I'm fine and then like I want to say like two weeks later I'm laying in bed with my wife and I kind of lean up and I see it and I go oh fuck what's this And then and then a bunch of dads Get it like some dudes get it when they just gain a lot of weight.

1:01:31That's another way to get it but like I've never been that fat, but uh Tommy I think I think Tommy might have had one or Eddie Bravo had two. Yeah, he's Yeah, one of my whole science Oh, he had to get it Eddie had to get it fixed my problem is I'd get it fixed But then I'm afraid of the aftermath of the surgery of 13 weeks of recovery of me not working out I'm gonna go fucking haywire. You don't have to go haywire. That's nonsense. You should get it fixed Is she get it fixed and get your nose fixed too? Just get it fixed Bite the bullet. Oh, they want don't don't live in a compromised body like they know how to fix those things You should get it fixed.

1:02:05Yeah, like the nose things giant Breathe out of your nose you change your fucking life. I couldn't do yoga class The instructor he would get mad at me He'd like you have to breathe out of your nose. I'm like I don't have a nose. It doesn't work Like it doesn't work I mean my nose I had like one quarter of one nostril that was the only thing that was open for oh for real Yeah, my right side was just Well, look rock old former UFC champion had a Post that he did about his nose recently where they were like going through his nose with one of those cameras Yeah, and so you could see like what's in there.

1:02:42It's the same thing It says his is completely clogged up like you hear Justin Gagetalk his nose is totally clogged up Like there's a lot of the and Justin actually got his nose fixed and then he fought max Holloway and I think that might have Put it back again. Oh my god. Yeah, what's a nose surgery? What's the I was doing to get to six weeks later Yeah, okay, you're Joe I'm hurt Yeah, but I mean six weeks later. I was fine. I didn't take any pain pills No, I wasn't I mean I was fine to roll but I was fine fine the next day Yeah, I had to have those stupid fucking things in my nose for a while I forget how long that lasted But then when they pulled those out I was good to go but the doctor I remember this the doctor gave me two pain pill prescriptions He was insistent on giving me these pain pill prescriptions And I was like okay, I go but it doesn't hurt now So is it gonna hurt more later?

1:03:35And he's like it might I go but it might not right? Like He goes, but you should have these like he wanted to write me these pain pill prescriptions I was like this is kind of creeping me out man. Yeah, because I had already known a bunch of people that had pill problems back then But it was just weird that he wanted to write me two of them and I told him I go listen. I just had knee surgery a couple months ago and I go and I didn't Wasn't a couple years ago rather and I didn't take any pain medication. I go. I don't like it I just did it I just had the surgery and then just dealt with the pain.

1:04:06I'd rather deal with the pain than that feeling. I don't like that feeling You know, I got a ACL surgery like way back in the day and They gave me like vikin ins or one of those type of things percussettes or vikin ins I forget what it was but I remember feeling so stupid I was like well, this is not for me like whatever this is I'd rather be in pain Have my fucking brain just filled with like cotton It just felt like it was just like clogged up like it couldn't it wouldn't work right like It was terrible Tommy and I like that But my bot doctor he just wanted me to take these pills. I think it's that I you know We you talking to me about statins for a while and you were saying that I don't know you were saying or whatever I read was that it The these companies are getting these doctors getting paid out to to get people on statins The the companies are saying you know get people on statins will pay you out You know and I think just get a variety of rewards.

1:05:00I'm finding out they get a variety of rewards dependent upon how many people in their practice get vaccinated And if they lose a certain percentage if they like have less than a certain percentage then they don't get payouts It's there's some weird shit that's involved in medicine that's financial incentives that don't necessarily align up with you know your best health And I think that doctors profit off of Providing people with pain pills especially when you have a legitimate reason to want to take pain pills But I really don't think you should take them at least I don't take up I just don't I think if you have something horrible you're wrong with you and you're in agony all day I totally understand but for a regular thing like you hurt your back a little bit You're so now you're on oxy cotton like that's what happened to me I got pretty much addicted to them.

1:05:51So I feel like that waterfall Get everybody today get you it's it's I can tell you the moment it happened was we had to go to dinner With my wife's friends and I didn't want to go and we weren't drinking and I remember thinking I wonder if I double up on my pain pills That'll get me through tonight And I did and man it was an enjoyable fucking night and I smoked a little weed and I was fucking perfect The next morning I woke up and Leanne found out She we were going camping that weekend I reached over to get my pills because that first thing I did in bed grab a pill pop a pill Lay there for a while Whenever my pills were gone and Leanne was at the foot of the bed.

1:06:29She goes you're done big boy And I was like I go hold on This is like negotiating like junky negotiating I go hold on baby. We're going camping like we're gonna be sleeping on the hard ground. She goes nope She goes go get as much weed as you want drink as much as you want get through the pain that way These things are fucking poison. They're scary. They're scary because you don't even realize what you look like to other people We went we went to Hawaii with a family one time and and we went to the Looow I wasn't I wasn't drinking a Hawaii that trip for whatever reason And I was bummed into Looow because I was like everyone's getting like you know These my ties and I'm drinking water and I was and I looked and this mom is clearly on oxys And you watch her nod out at the table And there's man when you see something like that and you're not drinking you're like thank god I'm not fucking drinking.

1:07:19I remember watching her nod out and her whole family sees it and she's like What dude is what percentage of this country is hooked on oxys right now It's gotta be like a scary percentage. I bet it's what do you think more oxys or Xanax Xanax is like Xanax is totally plausible take a Xanax you're gonna be fine my my cardiologist Uh, Dr. Cadan shallots to got doctors again. He's a big fan of yours But he told me said I said something about Xanax and he goes hey man. I'm your doctor. Don't ever fucking take those things I was like really goes. This is the leading cause of dementia do not take fucking Xanax is the leading He told me he said he was like by the way I apologize doctor Cadan give you shout out He's like that's not my exact words.

1:08:05Bert god damn it. Yeah, you might have fucked that up. We might want to delete that No, he said he said your brain. It turns your brain to mush Well, it's definitely not good for your brain. It's one of the most dangerous drugs to get off Oh, they won't they won't admit you to rehab if you if you're on benzos Right like I we took a friend to rehab one time and if one question asked if you're taking a benzo in the last 24 hours And he was like yeah, and they're like nope can't take you they don't want to deal with it There's it is so dangerous to get off benzos. Yeah, it's one of the There's only a few things that people die if they get addicted to it and then they you cut them off one of them is alcohol You know really yeah, yeah, well if you like you have to drink like when you wake up Oh, yeah, you have to be a complete drunk and somehow or another your body shifts into surviving drinking alcohol all the time you're killing yourself for sure But your body relies on it.

1:08:53I forget what the mechanism is but there's an actual mechanism though There's some sort of a shift when your body's got so much alcohol and then when you get off alcohol entirely you can die Oh, you have a stroke I don't know what the cause of death is but I know that Benzos is another drug that does that when you get off of it the you can you can die Like it's one of those things if you just cold turkey benzos Yeah, if you're poppin xanx all day long and you're like I'm done like you can die It's crazy what how how clean life is when you're not Partying oh, yeah, like you haven't drank in two weeks.

1:09:26Mm -hmm. It's like amazing how the sky looks different the trees look different We have more energy so much the gym is night and day different. Oh, yeah, like I work out every day regardless ran five miles today drank last night on the plane five miles today And now I feel clean, but then I go if I don't drink tonight Which I don't probably will But if I but like the next day I feel like a million bucks you get me in the gym And I want to be on the treadmill and I'm excited for fucking those those sissy squats you do I love those bitches. I got the bat the the board. Oh, yeah, get a fucking lampboard squats So the board Scott get a 45 fucking weight mom yeah to 15 of those bitches That's a great and you feel it and you're like that last one you want my favorite squat to do is what's the one where you You you lean back and you squat when you're tilted back squat lean back.

1:10:20It's called bad form No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. His skull back injury waiting to happen lean back and squat That sounds crazy like a landmine squat or something where you have the the pole you have the oh, okay Yeah, and line. Yeah, and you and you get deep into that bitch. Oh, yeah, those are great. Those are great for like rotational force to oh, yeah oh You know Viking shit. Yeah, I'm saying, I'm always impressed when a man can program is on work. Oh I can't, yeah, I can't, like if you put, I think. You don't do your own workouts? No, I have a guy program for me. Okay, so. He comes to my house and trains me every day.

1:10:58Really? Yeah. Wow. So you don't work out on your own at all? I find work out on my own, I run. Okay, so you must like that, right? We get a loan time. Must like that, right? I love getting on the treadmill by myself and just fucking going. Yeah, a loan time is big. So that's what I like the most about, like work them out by myself. Like I can figure out what to do. I know what to do. So I just program my own shit. Yeah, I think that's impressive. I tell you what the game changer for me and working out and I think that, you know, I never understood, like guys like Cam or David Goggins and then they pushed themselves so hard and we did that bench press competition.

1:11:39I realized most of the time when everyone works, the regular person works out, they just wanna get through it and be done with it. I know, I cheated a little bit, fuck it, that was 12. But when you're training for something and this must be like this with mixed martial artists and with all those motherfuckers, you're training your body for an actual event to protect yourself from other men. And I was like, and when I had a goal in mind, I was like, oh, this is different. Like I'm doing everything he's telling me to do and I'm doing it the right way and I'm doing it to like failure because I'm trained, if I know that if I do that, then when I get to the day where I do the bench, I can then complete the mission I'm set out to do.

1:12:19Right. And that's a goal. I think more goal oriented workout, if they say like, dude, they just say, you know, a wolf's coming to your house in two weeks. Right. You know, we need to work out, get ready for that wolf. Right. You'd work out so hard for that fucking wolf. Yeah, I'd be like, fuck. Yeah. Dude, I tell you about my friend Colorado, they let wolves loose near his land. No. Yeah, they just let wolves loose in Colorado. They let a bunch loose in one part of the state and then they let a bunch more loose. He said there was five. I don't know if that's accurate, but that's what he was told.

1:12:55And for what purpose? Just they've decided to repopulate the state with wolves and they're getting wolves from like British Columbia. So he's a big ass fucking Canadian wolves coming in and fucking the elk up. And this is outside of Aspen. So these are like all these really wealthy people. Holy shit. They let wolves loose on their property. And by the way, there's livestock there. These people have cattle. They have all sorts of, so far the wolves in his area have an attack cattle because there's an abundance of elk up there. It's a very, it's a big elk corridor with elk migrate. And I took a picture and posted it up on Instagram of a elk leg that he found just like within two weeks of them being released.

1:13:40He had their started killing elk on his property. So a wolf took out an elk and left the leg bone, just laying in the snow. Wait, how many wolves did they let go? Five, he thinks. But what do they, do they release him as a pack? I don't know if they will pack up. I don't know if they knew each other before. I don't know what the fucking neighborhood they grow up to get from. Yeah, so that's what we found. Oh shit. So that's an elk leg that's just been stripped down. The lower leg, no meat on it. Just the hoof and some fur and shit. It's laying in a bunch of just a bunch of disturbed areas. It was all fucked up.

1:14:22You could tell some shit went down. So we found that piece there. They had dragged that from somewhere else. But there was a carcass up there too. So they basically, you know, can kill. They could probably kill one or two elk a day. And they probably will do that now. And so the elk population will rapidly diminish. The elk have no idea. They've never evolved around wolves. These elk are in like, who knows how many generations with no wolves. So the United States had wolves all throughout the West. And then they eradicated them because they fucking kill everything. They kill livestock, they kill horses.

1:15:04They pack up, they get big, they get big packs. And then the devastate livestock. She perters cattle. So they all murdered all the wolves. So now these people, these greenies, so the cutie pies decided to bring back the most intelligent telepathic apex predator that operates in packs. And he decided to let them loose near a ski town. Like congratulations. Why the fuck? Because they're cute. Because these are people that grew up in cities. And they don't understand. It's called ballot box biology. It's a bunch of people who grew up in the city. They don't know what the fuck they're doing. And they don't know what a wolf really is.

1:15:43They just think, well, how life's amazing. And then so you've let loose apex predators in an area where nothing is prepared for them. These animals don't know to look for wolves. They've never experienced a wolf before. They don't have an unnatural instinct to run away when they see the wolves. They don't know what the fuck is going on. And they can't tell what the... You can't tell wolves what to kill either. Of course not. Well, here's even better. The first ones they got, so they had a mandate to get these, the Colorado voted. They voted it to release wolves. And so the governor had to get it done within a certain period of time.

1:16:18And so they got wolves from Oregon that had been killing cattle. So these wolves, they captured them because they had been killing cattle. And then they released them in Colorado where they wait for it. Start killing cattle. Oh, shit. Duh. So wolves are awesome, but they were making their way into Colorado by themselves. They were already coming down from Wyoming. There's wolves in Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, and they were making their way down naturally. But these idiots decided to accelerate the process and introduce this completely new element outside of a fucking ski town that's going to kill people's dogs for sure.

1:16:59If they get to a healthy population, you're never going to be able to let your dog go outside. Yeah. That's over. Cats, dead, everybody dead. They're like 10 times worse in coyote. You remember coyotes? Giant coyotes? You're seeing coyotes jump fences? Oh, yeah. And you're like, there's no protecting my chickens from fucking coyotes. I saw a coyote jump offense with one of my chickens in its mouth. Jumped a six foot high, rot iron fence, like it was nothing. Bound, touched the top of the fence with its feet with a chicken in its mouth. And right over the top, I was like, whoa, I was so delusional.

1:17:30I thought, oh, this fence is this big. They can't get over that. Dude, one jump, one jump, feet to the top, other feet to the top, over the top with a chicken in its mouth. All my neighbors have red lights on their fences. That's the only thing that stops coyotes, I say. Oh, they won't jump over a red light. I have no fucking idea. But they all have, it looks like a red bicycle light on every panel of their fence. They have little monsters. What's that? They're wolves, too, by the way. They are? Coyotes are wolves. Yeah, they're small wolves. I remember, you know, it's funny, the little things you remember, I remember you talking about the coyotes, honeydicken, your dog one time.

1:18:03Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I always think that's the funniest phrase, honeydicken. Yeah, they try to honeydick your dog. So what they do is they, one coyote, I've told the story before, but I'll say it quick. I went to this pet store that I used to go to. And one of the guys that worked in the pet store, yeah, he was a veterinarian. And he brought in, someone had brought in this pit bull that was covered in cuts. Like his whole body was like hundreds of stitches. And he's like, what happened? He was like, I don't know, he got out. And then, you know, when I came home, he was outside the fence, and this is what he looked like.

1:18:39So this guy, they stitched the dog up, and then he follows a blood trail into the woods outside of his house where he finds nine dead coyotes. So they honeydicked a giant pit bull. Like one of them super jack muscular pit bull in the fucking fire hydrant head. The kind that are in the front of rap albums. Terrifying pit bull. And this pit bull just killed everyone. They fucked with a John Wick of pit bulls. And he just killed them all, killed all the coyotes. They were all just, he said, it looked like Vietnam. He said they were just torn apart. Cause once the dog killed them, he's not gonna stop.

1:19:17He's gonna start shaking them. You know, pick it especially a pit bull like that. That's in a blood rage to just kill, fight for its life. Like it was probably so happy. Like so happy to do this. Cause pit bulls just want to fight all the time. I've been wanting to do this every fucking day. He was so accomplished. It was a guy as a Jiu Jitsu black belt and a drunk rap. And it was like, thank you. Thank you. I've been practicing for this my whole life. But you imagine the scene. Imagine a scene just walked, it's just dead coyotes. Just ripped apart. Just throats torn open, guts hanging out. Legs broken.

1:19:56Cause this dog, if a dog like that bites a coyotes leg, that leg's broken. That's a shattered leg. That leg doesn't work anymore. The poundage that pit bulls bite is fucking wild. Propot, you know what a wolf is? It's like five times stronger. Are you shitting me? Yeah, that's how crazy these retards are. That let loose these apex telepathic super predators into a ski town. We're filled with super rich people. And the super rich people right now, they're finding out about this. They are freaking the fuck out. I bet they are. Oh yeah, all my buddy who lives out there, all his neighbors, they're all trying to figure out what they can do, they're all collared too.

1:20:35So there's an app and you can get on the app and find out where the monsters are. Yeah, you want to get scared? I'm about, I gotta get that out. I gotta get that out. You're freaking, how about your walking? And then you see the fucking app is showing you they're behind you. All five of them behind you and you're with your family. But maybe you voted on that because you think wolves are amazing. That's a little red riding hood, bro. That's, we can track these wolves on an app. We can track them on an app. That's kind of cool. It's kind of cool to know where the monsters are. But they do that with sharks, great white sharks.

1:21:10But these people in the neighborhood are all tracking these wolves. So they're all freaking out because these wolves are circling their homes, circling their property. Fogs? Some of them have gone right through fields with cattle and not done anything about it. Yeah, they don't even understand why. They haven't attacked any cattle yet. But these are ones that are outside of Aspen. So the ones that they brought in from Oregon, that's not outside of Aspen, that's a different spot. Those are the ones that were, they were depredation tags. They were already killing wildlife or they were killing cattle.

1:21:43What state do you think has the most predators? Like Australia has the most predators in the world. In our country, yeah. I'd say Alaska for sure. Florida. Oh yeah, that's a good call. Florida is fucking crazy. Florida now, because you brought in reptiles, yeah, 100%. Florida has more pythons in it, in the Everglades than all the rest of the world. Yeah. Do you see those kids that go in, you see those kids that dive in and grab them? I had Python cowboy on the show. He brought me up, don't we have a Python head, laying right here somewhere, something? Oh, look at that, look at that. Yeah, apex, predator, Florida is jacked.

1:22:22If no one even comes close before them. No one's even close. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, main? Why does it mean? What is it? For bond. That's got a way. Okay, so the one with the boot. Well, this is not good, guys. The boot is Massachusetts, right? Or North -East New York. We're so stupid. You know who can draw the whole map by hand, Al Franken? Vermont. Vermont. Yeah, it's Massachusetts is one. What's the one? Okay, so Vermont predators. Yeah, what predators are for Vermont? There must be like wolverines and shit. Oh, red and gray foxes, coyotes, black bears, fishers, bobcats, and red and gray foxes with wolves and lynx also present, although the later or rare ladder.

1:23:11Good God. Interesting. I remember, I said the other day on Instagram, I was, I had my hose all wrapped up. And I was like, I don't know if this is from, because I'm from Florida, but I never put my hand into a hose bucket without kicking it a couple of times. When you say I got my hose all wrapped up, I thought, yeah, you ladies, making money. My hose doesn't make money. So wrapped up, they're making that money. I got my hose wrapped up. Do you ever had rattlesnake on your property out here? Yes, you have. Out here, we've had one. One of my neighbors had a couple coral snakes in her garage. Those are scary.

1:23:48Coral snakes are the ones that look like red and black. But it's beautiful. Black and yellow, kill a fellow. Red and, red white and blue. America. He's cool. I don't know what the, but my old house in California, there was a bunch of them. Your old house was in the, in the wilderness. Yeah, I was, I was in a place where there was a lot of wild. Red touches yellow, kill a fellow, red touches black. Venom, lack. What does that mean? There's no venom. Oh, to help identify venomous coral snakes. Oh, I see. Because I think we have those. So coral snakes are not venomous? No, it's a, it's a, oh yeah, that's what it looked like.

1:24:25It's, no, it's a king's snake. A scarlet king snake is harmless. Coral snakes are deadly. Okay. So we had both in Florida, I think. So you never got near either of them. But that, go back to that image, Jamie. The one on the top red touches yellow, kill a fellow. That's it. So that's the one that'll kill it. Red touches black scarlet king snake, harmless. Interesting. I'm not gonna roll the dice on that. I would not remember this. I would fuck that up. I'd be like, bad thing. It looks like it will fucking for sure kill you. Red touches black. Step back. What? Yellow, yellow, black yellow. Red touches yellow kill a fellow.

1:24:59That's the one. That's all you have to remember. Red touches yellow kill a fellow. Black in yellow, black in yellow. That's red touches yellow. Fuck that creature. So my friend, she had two of them in her garage. Yeah, not good. Not good. But my old house, my, remember, do you ever meet Frank? You never met Frank. You're pretty, I used to have this pit bull named Frank Sinatra. And Frank would, I only knew Johnny. Frank killed everything. Everything they got in that yard was dead. Yeah, he was a psycho. And he killed Rattlesnakes all the time. So he'd get bit all the time. So like fucking, I didn't even know I'd get bit.

1:25:37He got bit every time. So I have to keep bringing him to the fucking vet. I brought him to the vet like at least three times. And one time I had to bring him twice because he got to the, he had been, he had been bit my Rattlesnakes so many times that he had developed some sort of an immunity. So I brought him the first time and we're all, he was super friendly. He was a sweetest dog, loved everybody, but like vicious with snakes and lizards. Lizards are like his video game. He would like jump on the walls to try to get the lizards that were crawling on walls with leap fucking leap into the air to try to get these lizards.

1:26:08So I brought him to the vet and the vet's like, I don't see a puncture mark and he's not swelling. So I wouldn't worry about it. And I'm like, wow, how the fuck did you kill that snake and not get bit? And then I brought him back to the house and his face immediately swole back up again. So then I had to bring him back to the vet and the vet's like, he's been stung. He's been bit so many times that he probably has some sort of immunity. Jesus. Yeah. It's a coral snake too. That doesn't go by the rhyme. That is so beautiful. That is the most venomous snakes in the world. God, I would assume that would fuck you up.

1:26:42It kills King Cobras apparently. It kills King Cobras. Look at that. Beautiful it is. It's a blue coral. Somewhere there's some idiot in Florida and a death metal band that wants this. And he's gonna have it in his house until he can't feed it anymore. It's like little fella, go to let you go. And he's gonna let it loose and it's gonna go in the fucking Everglades and then you're gonna have a half a million of them there. The, you know, slash had poison of snakes in his house. Of course he did. Look at him. And then there was an earthquake. Oh great. I read that. I think I read that one of their books where I talked to slash once about it.

1:27:10They got out. And I think they got out and they had to send someone in the house to, I can't remember exactly, but there was an earthquake and he had like a cobra. Oh God. Yeah. I don't understand, I mean, I understand wanting to have a snake, but poison the snakes I can't wrap my head around. No, no. You can never touch it. You can never play with it. Fuck all snakes. How about that? How about all that? How about snakes in the reason why we wear clothes? A snake tricked Eve into eating that fucking apple and now we're ruined. All right, now we have to have Jesus come save us. You definitely look like you would have gone through a lizard phase though.

1:27:44No. Well, I, listen. I had one idea that was the dumbest idea. The snake eye. What is going on? The cop does it all. It's got snakes. Fuck I was talking. Oh, this is the wrong cop to pull the snake out with. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. I'll stand right here. No, wait a minute. You know, I understand how many there are. Dude. You see all the snakes right here? Yeah. You see them snakes right here? Yeah. They're my babies. I care more about them snakes than I do a human life. Just like that, man. Okay. Look at these teeth already out the door. He's like, oh, he's a thing, buddy. Yeah. So I had this one idea at once.

1:28:29I had this house that was like, it had like a center courtyard. And I was going to seal off the center courtyard and get a crocodile monitor. Bad ass fucking monitor. And feed it rabbits and have like a wild kingdom in the center of my house. I love it. So I was going to set up trees because it had like open air. So I was like, I'm going to set up a canopy, trap it in there like a greenhouse, make it nice and warm. So it's environment, put trees up everywhere and then just let shit loose and watch. Yeah. Then I was like, that's so fucked up. It's like, and then I started thinking like, what's wrong with you?

1:29:03It's like if I started thinking about me going, like I didn't like me. Like imagine taking someone, one of your friends over your house and you have a murder sanctuary in the center of center piece of your home. Oh. The atrium of your home is just like, you watch animals just get slaughtered. They have no chance of escape unlike the wild. Oh. The wild rabbit can get away. Do we still have that fair fight? In our fraternity, my buddy Mason had a big python. And they'd buy rats and they put money on it. And they put them in the corners and put the python in the center and they have the benches from our cafeteria lined up being a square.

1:29:38And we bet on which one he'd eat first. And it was crazy. Rats would go right up to the snake's face and touch the snake's face. Snake's sake wouldn't even fucking touch it. And then all of a sudden, just you'd see him coil up. Yeah, they just make their move. Are the Savannah monitor? I had a iguana, Savannah monitor at mice. And then the iguana just nothing. It just... That's those rats that they fed that snake or those mice they fed that snake. Those things are just rat bread and captivity. They have no fear. They don't know what's going to hurt them and what's not going to hurt them. Nothing's ever hurt them.

1:30:18Everything's just fed them. And then all of a sudden, serpent. My dog caught a squirrel. My dog, I have two bull mastiffs. Mac, the big one, has been. I mean, he's wanted to catch a squirrel the same way I wanted to have anal sex with my wife. Like he wants it every fucking day. And then he caught a squirrel. And I think it would be the same as if I had anal sex with my wife. It was way messier than he thought. He thought it was going to be a fun game. And he broke it in half and was throwing it and then it wasn't moving. And he'd move it. And I was like, oh, buddy, you should have never got what you wanted.

1:30:51He was like, this isn't funny. I looked at him. He's just like, what the fuck? I guess I'll eat grass now. Yeah, clean his mouth out. Squirrel guts. My two bull mastiffs caught the, what's the, a possum who was killing our chickens? Possum's killed chickens. Possum killed our chickens. Three chickens. I'm almost saying like back to back to back. Of course they do. They look like predators. I mean, they have a predator mouth. And my two bull mastiffs caught a possum and they tortured this thing. I'm talking out. I'll kind of be heading video in our, while we were out to dinner. And we got home and furniture was moved around and this fucking possum was soaking wet.

1:31:35I mean, they have must have thrown this thing around the room and it was just in the corner playing dead. It was still alive. Yeah, and the dogs were just fucking ragdolling it. How is it still alive? I don't know. We had to catch it. Well, we had to catch it. The possum is fucking huge. Yeah, they were just toying with it. I think they were just fucking throwing them around. They had them cornered in the back. We had to dead a bucket and you can't kill possums in this county of LA. It's illegal. It's kill possums. That's hilarious. I know. That's so funny. You know you can kill coyotes. No, an LA?

1:32:05Oh, yeah. Uh, are you being serious? Yeah. Because we have a den of coyotes that come back through our backyard at times. Coyotes like rats. Dude, I don't think they're like rats. Let me just be real clear. I think they're cool. But I wanted to kill one. I wanted to kill them when they killed all my chickens. Dude, I killed all my fucking chickens. I have a hoit bow with a 69 pound tension that would light a fucking coyote. I've been wanting to hunt something. Yeah. Yeah, don't shoot your neighbors, dude. California laws allows for the killing of fur bearing mammal that is injuring property at any time and in any manner.

1:32:41Any manner. However, animal cruelty laws prohibit maliciously and intentionally maming, mutilating, torturing, wounding or killing an animal. There I go. What do you mean? Perhibit intentionally killing an animal. So how can you have a law that allows for killing a fur bearing mammal that is injuring property at any time and any manner, but also have a law that prohibits intentionally killing an animal? It's got to be doing the injury. It says maliciously so you'd be angry. But hold on, am I saying the word possum wrong? A possum. No, I say it. Oh possum, I think is the right way to say it. It's like, did you know it's wheelbarrow?

1:33:20It's not barrel. Uh -uh. It's wheelbarrow. Interesting. Yeah. It makes it illegal to intentionally and maliciously kill an animal. But intentionally and maliciously are different things. Like if you're killing an animal to protect your dog. The key, oh, here it is. The key difference lies in the intent and manner of killing. Killing an oppossum that is causing damage to property is one thing, but torturing or inflicting unnecessary suffering is a different matter. Okay, that makes sense. Okay, my dogs broke the law. Here is a guy was convicted and sentenced for torturing an oppossum to death, including beating, burning and hanging it from a noose.

1:33:57Okay. That's a lot. That's a lot. In other case, father and son were arrested for allegedly killing an oppossum, but the arrests were later deemed unlawful in the city's settled lawsuit with the family for $400 ,000. Okay. Consider contacting a professional pest control operator or wildlife removal service. Yeah. I mean, I'm not too worried about possums. In our old house, we had bad days. Coyote is to be worried about. I fucking light up a code at Coyote. They're to be worried about it. I get a small dog. I need to be exactly 25 yards away from me though. Yeah. Cause I don't, yeah, that's all I might, I'm going to the scope out from my porch to the fire pit.

1:34:37Don't you have a adjustable site? No, four sites. I didn't really learn that much about po hunting with Cam. I just shot a couple times. But I know that like one site is for that distance, one site for that distance. Right. And I don't even need the second site in my backyard. My backyard is not that big. Right. Right. You should go somewhere where you could practice. They have a good one. They have a good one in I think in it's over in a park. They have a whole archery range. Oh, nice. Yeah. Yeah, you should go there. I get weird with that shit. I have, you know, I've weird issues about like joining and doing something new, like getting into a spin class that I've never met anyone.

1:35:12I just kind of like doing it in my backyard. Doing in the backyard is fun. But just for your own ability to get better at it, you really should stretch out your distance. Yeah. Cause what happens is there's little tiny errors in your form that don't show up at 20 yards. That'll show up at 60 yards. And you got to find out what those are. Like I don't, I always shoot at 85 yards. You shoot at 85 yards. 85 yards. And you're at your house? Yeah. Yeah. I set 85 yards is a distance I would never shoot an animal at. And if I could be super accurate at 85 yards, when an animal is at 50 yards, it feels to me like a chip shot.

1:35:51Yeah. Like I can just nail it. Cause I'm always shooting long distances. So at a long distance, any little deviation or torque, like torque of your hand, it can make a big difference in how the arrow goes off. And at 70 yards, it might be four or five, six inches to the left to the right up, down. It's spread out. And you want to tighten it up like this. You want to get that group like a softball. That's what I want. I want a softball at 85 yards. That's what I know I can go hunting. When I get a softball at 85 yards, I'm dialed. I'm dialed in. I've been shooting from a higher platform too. Is that that's very good?

1:36:29That's very good. Especially if you ever have to go hunting in a tree stand. Tree stand hunting is very difficult. So I've only done it once. My good friend, John Dudley, took me to his farm in Iowa. John actually taught me a lot about our tree too. Like most of what I know about like form and technique, I learn from John. And anyway, John is this amazing setup in Iowa. And you go up in these tree stands and you have to like buckload yourself in with like a safety wire or a safety rope. And you know, you're sitting there like all day. You sit all day. All day. It's freezing. It's November. It's in Iowa.

1:37:08It's fucking three degrees. You're sitting there freezing your fucking dick off. And sometimes you have these giant suits that you put over your whole body and zip up. Like you're a giant burrito of fur almost like a sleeping bag. And you're sober and you're not doing anything but just waiting. Yeah, you can't be drunk. You can't be listening to like a podcast. You really shouldn't. You want to hear you want to hear branches snapping. You want to hear the little cracks, the little sounds, little ch ch ch ch. That's what you're listening for. Guys even wear these things called Walker Game Ears.

1:37:38And Walker Game Ears, it's almost like a hearing aid and you put them in and you crank it up and you can hear things like way amplified. Way amplified. Like there's a certain headphones you wear. If you go to a gun range that they tune out any sound that's over a certain pitch, like a certain volume, but amplify other sounds. So you can hear people talking like from way away. Really? Yeah, way stronger like ability to hear. But then the gun, it cuts out the sound when it gets to a dangerous, so every gun is like tach tach tach tach tach tach tach. But the sound of other people is still present.

1:38:20So you can talk at a gun range. You don't have to have like full year, like the full one stuffed in there where you have to pull like a tarot tactical. They always use those. You have to pull them out to talk to people. These you can cut. So these guys wear things like that so they can hear everything in the forest. Wow. They can hear every little sound because when a deer is coming in, they come in slowly. They're like, they're all wearing shit. They're stepping on the grass. They're moving around. And you might just hear something, just a rustle. And you're like, where's it? And you see them, oh shit, there he is, there he is.

1:38:51And you got to get your bow. So you're waiting all day for one moment and you're shooting down. Yeah. Because like the animals, like they're down like below you or like you're at a like sharp angle. So you have to have like a range compensating, an angle compensating range fighter. Because the shot might be 40 yards, but it actually might be 20 yards because you're shooting straight down. Yeah. So you're shooting straight down. You're the way your arrow is going to drop. It's not going to be as affected by gravity. So like if you're shooting 40 yards on a flat plane, the arrow is going to arc and it's going to drop.

1:39:24So over the course of the 40 yards, if your arrow is going, 290 feet per second, which is a good speed, it's going to slowly drop until it gets to 40 yards. So you have, that's why you range. Like you set up the pin, you move it to where the arrow is going to be when it finally gets there at 40 yards. So you know, can you move your own pin? Oh yeah, yeah. Oh, I need camera. I have a wheel. It's set up that like I have what's called a spot hog, a fast eddy and it's got two pins on it. And one pin will be at 20 yards. The other pin will be at 35 yards. And then I move it down and then the one pin is at 50 yards and the other pin is at like 75 yards.

1:40:05Oh, that's not mine or 65. Mine has just got four different sites. Oh, okay. Yeah. So mine is an adjustable one that's on a wheel. And that's what you need because like with the rate like save of deer's coming in, you're in a tree stand. You look and you're like, that's pretty far away, but it's pretty far like this straight down. So pretty far straight down, your arrow's not going to drop as much as if you were shooting straight. Yeah, if you're shooting straight, it's going to go boom. And then so you have to have a range finder that figures that out for you. Oh, yeah. And it says even though that's 40 yards away, the angle compensation is actually 26 yards.

1:40:38So you have to die your shit to 26 yards and then you'll be perfect. Did you ever have your gun fishing with a bow? No, I have not, but it looks amazing. It is so fucking difficult. It looks so fun too though. It's fun, but it's difficult because of the water reflection, you've got to shoot like six inches below it, right? Yeah, well, I don't know because I never got one. So yeah, I was and I was a little drunk. I was like, this will be easy. I think you have to shoot sick. It's refract, refract, refraction, right? Yeah. Yeah, I think you have to shoot below what you see. Yeah. Yeah. That's a mind fuck.

1:41:13I couldn't, I probably when we sat out there with salmon all over, you can see them. It was yeah, and I fucking messed up taking a hundred shots. Oh, man. That was been so fun. It was fun, but you know, was that, is that like a recurve bow or is that a bow with a release? Do you ever release? I don't remember. I think it was, I think it was a compound bow. Okay. I think so. Yeah, that's better. The compound bow, you could be more accurate. So with the compound bow, like I don't know how to aim with a recurve bow at all. I've only shot one like three or four times ever, and I went on this trip to La Nile with my family.

1:41:48And one of the things that they had was like this little archery lesson. You could take archery classes and shoot at the little targets, and they had recurve bows. I had never shot a bow without a sight before. So I was like trying to like line it up or line up where the, how do you know where the arrow is going to go? That's the only bows I've ever shot. It was like a recurve. Yeah, recurve. I shot a recurve bow. We did like archery lessons in Italy. And so we were at different, you know how like those hills, they're like almost like steps. And so they'd have, but it was weird because the recurve bow was such that you had to hold it kind of like an angle.

1:42:21An angle, yeah. So that the arrow stays on the shelf. Yeah. And during the pandemic, I got the girls both recurve bows and we would shoot in the backyard all the time. It's fun. It's definitely fun. But it's, it's kind of like throwing a rock or like throwing a baseball. Like you've, you've got to like have a feel for where that baseball is going to go at 30 yards at 40 yards at 50, you know, like if you had to throw a baseball and hit a tree, you would know, okay, I got to throw it a little harder. You get a feel. So that's different than regular archery, like or excuse me compound archery because compound archery, you're basically relying on the site and the technique.

1:42:57Like you, you dial it in, you get that pin. It's at 42 yards. And then you're just going through your shot process. You're just staying steady and making sure you go through your shot process perfect so that when the shot breaks, the arrow goes exactly where you want to. But with a recurve, like you have to practice all the time because you have to have that feel, you have to feel and know where that arrow is going to go. Like you're, you're looking down the shaft of your arrow, but your accuracy is greatly diminished compared to like a compound bow. I haven't shot my, I only shot shoot my compound bow now, but I've been shot my recurve bow with the little wristlet thing.

1:43:36Can you game me? I like to do that because I use always just my fingers. Well, that's an interesting thing. So use a release on a recurve. I'm sure people do that. You'd have to put a deloup on it though. You put or not, I guess not. You could hold it from the top of the bottom. That would be better. Yeah, that would definitely be better. So you definitely get a more consistent release, but people want to be primitive. You know, like the real psychos, what happens is guys, the highest level of bohunting is guys go after like elk and deer with a recurve bow. My friend Aaron Schneider did that for a couple of years.

1:44:07He only shot because he's like a elite hunter, like an elite bohunting. But what's the ultimate pound to jump a recurve bow? What's the highest it can go? It's you're not getting it nearly the amount of kinetic energy. No. So the kinetic energy you would get from a compound bow, like Aaron's a big guy. He's pretty jacked. And so like his bow is like an 80 to 85 pound bow probably. And he's a big guy. So he's probably got a 30 inch draw somewhere around that. So he's getting insane amounts of kinetic energy in these arrows. That was just blowing through everything. That's the craziest part of getting fitted for a boat.

1:44:43So I was always like, I was always come here. I was like, Joe, let me shoot your bow and you're like, it's not that easy. Because it's set up for a person. Yeah, it's set up for your wingspan. Like your taller than me. So what is your, do you know where you're drawing this? No, Cam did all of it. And I was just listening. Your draw length's probably 29 and a half, maybe 30 inches, minds 28. So 28, I used to have 28 and a half and then I dropped down to 28. And I adjusted a few things and I feel like the more tension at the end, like the further back you are, like I know guys who want extra energy.

1:45:15And so they're what's called over drawn. So they maybe should have a 27 inch draw, but they have a 29 inch draw. And they have their release way back here. So they're shooting things totally different. You would never tell anybody to do that, but some guys get really good doing that. And then they just stick with it. Like it's all about repeatability, but Cam taught me like Cam is a, he's smaller than his draws a little bit smaller than mine. His is 27 and he had a longer draw. He started out with a longer draw as well, but then brought it. And when he, like for him, it's all the ultimate thing is accuracy.

1:45:48And he's like, when your, your bow is more tense, more taught, and there's more tension on it, if it's a shorter draw length, you're more accurate. You want to get it perfect. Yeah. You want to exactly what your frame is. And for me, it seems like 28 inches is the right, the right number. I had one of my most manly moments of my entire life in that fucking bow and that bow store. It's very manly place. Dude, there were, Cam's like, they have me set for like a 40 pound, you know, bow. And I go, okay. And he was like, I go, what do you guys shoot? Like you and Rogan, he was like 80 pounds, I think.

1:46:22It was like what he said 90. Oh, okay. So it's 90. So Cam goes, Cam goes, I was at one tough to draw pull back. And he was like, yeah. And I was like, I try. And he was like, okay. So he pulls it and brings it over, you know, all the bow guys are there. So I can't, and I pull it back. And Cam goes, hold on, hold on. Hang on, takes the bow off. And he puts it in the measure. And he's like, there's no way he did that. And he measured the test. He was, God damn it. He goes, all right. Let's move on to 69. You're strong, dude, man. You were talking about how you bench press, what are you bench pressing now?

1:46:55325, 325. 325, for how many? Just one. That's impressive. That's a lot of weight. It's dangerous for your shoulders though. That's why I don't like it. It's not, it's not sustainable. And there's no reason to do it because as I did it, I gained weight. Like I gained weight, I gained 10 pounds. Yeah, like this is going to sound so silly. And you know me so well that you're going to laugh when I say this, but like my jacket's weren't fitting. No, I'm sure. Like I'm thick for a while. Shoulders and my chest and my biceps and my triceps, everything in the jacket just wouldn't fit. A year ago when you were at the club, I was calling you Jack Bert.

1:47:27You remember? Yeah. As long as you want to say to go, dude, you look different now. It's not as funny when you take your shirt off because I'm like, he's fucking jacked. You're like a football player. You look like a big, like a tank abbot. That's what you look like. Tank that was a bad motherfucker. He was a bad motherfucker. I was, I was pretty skinny in the special, not skinny, but like I was in good shape in the special. Tanned, really tanned, special outfit. Bro, tank abbot. He put like UFC on the map. Tudy, that early generation guys were so charismatic. Oh, yeah. I mean, when you look like Frank, what's his name?

1:48:00Shamrock. Frank Shamrock. Oh, yeah. Voice Gracie. Tank abbot. Ken Shamrock. Ken Shamrock. Yeah. That was like those. Don't fry. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know, we were, I was, we were we just that the other day. I went over there. You see with my wife and she was, and I was staying to her. She was like, so that was your first, her first one life. Oh, yeah. Have you seen one? You saw one live at the apex. I saw one live at Madison Square Garden. Oh, that's right. That's right. That was a good one too. Yeah, but we sat, we, I bought the tickets. So we sat up in the nosebleeds. That may be angry.

1:48:33Don't ever buy tickets. I know, but I'm never going to ask for something. We know. I get angry when people ask you for shit. Because you're so generous with everyone. You know, that I feel bad. You called and you said, do you want tickets? And I was like, you, first of all, you're like, are you going to UFC? And I was like, I'm not going to say, I don't want to sound like. When you tell me you were going to slap fight, I'm like, okay, you're here. Yeah. Like I didn't know if you're set up yet. No. And I wasn't going to ask Dana for tickets. Come on. And then you're like, oh, let me get you tickets.

1:49:00And then you go, you have to see he's got better tickets. Dude, that was a fucking fever dream that night. It was me and Theo. I don't think I've laughed harder with an individual in my fucking life. No, there's no one better than Theo for, can we get them wider for a hang? Dude, just talking shit, being silly. It was me, him and my wife the whole time. They were like, because we went to slap fight together. Then we went to UFC together. Shout out to Taylor, shout out to Max Crosby. Shout out to Mel Gibson, Taylor Sheridan. Look at that. Mario Lopez. What a fucking crew. The guys are like, like, Max and Taylor LeWon.

1:49:34What a fucking crew. Taylor LeWon's the one who did me the bench press bet with. Him and bust him with the boys. He was like, he saw me try to get 300. He was like, you can't get 300. Bro, we went gambling with him. And Jamie and Shane and Dana White and Vegas. And I watched him beat down. Dana was betting for him. Dana was telling him what to bet. And they have this system. Okay, whatever. He's up. He's up like a considerable amount of money over the course of all the times they've been gambling. But they gamble heavy. Very. And Jamie and I were getting severe anxiety. They were down $125 ,000 in the first five minutes.

1:50:13Do you remember that? How scary was that? I tried to, I was like, oh, let me jump in with you guys. He's like, don't, don't, don't. Dude, I was gonna, I was like, let me get a marker or a hop out. I've never gotten a marker. I got a marker one time with Tommy for. What do you have to do? Do you have to give me a credit card? Oh, they've got to do a fucking bank transfer. It takes a long time to get a marker. A bank transfer? Unless you've done it before. Yeah, dude, it took me an hour and a half to get a fucking marker. How do you get a bank transfer in the middle of the night? You have to call your bank.

1:50:40I don't think you can get a marker unless you've already had that established earlier. And you had? I said, no, I had it. Me and Tommy were there and Tommy's like, get a marker. So I was like, okay, so I asked for a marker. It took forever. They'd go through my financial guy and then they came in. Financial guys around and they called him. They called it home at work. It was like, Tommy never doing it when we did the Super Bowl like two years ago. Oh, so it was daytime. It was daytime. Okay. And so Tommy's already gotten his marker and it took me forever to get a marker. I got a $50 ,000 marker.

1:51:08And dude, I got so nervous. I bet $1 ,000 lost 300 and I was like, I'm done. Oh, let's go pussy. Remember being poor too well. I do. It's not gambling's not fun unless it sparkles. Unless there's like a, unless there's terror. Yeah, it's not fun when you're like, you know, 20 bucks, 50 bucks. Exactly. I got to bet 50 ,000 all of that money on something to feel it. But I love the feeling, but the feeling's not worth it to lose the money. The losing the money. Holy shit. Dana White when we got there, what was he down? $600 ,000? Yeah, he was down $600 ,000. And he stayed all night and he was there to like five o 'clock in the morning and he got it back and was up $600 ,000 when he left.

1:51:54He gambles. He plays Bacarat. Oh, he is a blackjack. Bacarat too. That's his new game. We did Tommy and I did a podcast with him and I bet more. What's that? $500 ,000. Oh, what is, I don't even know what that is. What is Bacarat? I know the name. It's a, it's, I think it's like a Chinese blackjack. Oh, if I had to like, it was on a quiche show. Someone explained Bacarat, I'd be like, fuck. I should fucking know that. Ricky Tiki -Dobby. I don't know. I know what Crap's is. I know how that works. I don't know how it works. No, I do not know like the rules like what is the come line or all that shit.

1:52:33I don't know what the fuck I know what it is. Crap's is just a simple game. They throw the dice, but all the different, the come and the fucking lines. Yeah. I don't know what's going on. Oh, it's Crap's is simple. Really honestly, Crap's is a very, it's not simple. Yeah, but it's basically roll the dice. Whatever that number is, you just got to roll it again. And then everyone gets a bet on whether you're not going to roll it, whether you're going to roll it. And then they can bet on the other numbers that you might roll before you roll the second number. And then there's two rolls that get you out.

1:53:01And then if you roll those at the beginning, get money. It's a simple game technically. Now the simple is Blackjack, but back. That's a good one that you like. You get your wife to kiss the dice and then you throw it. You get her to throw it for you and she gets on a hot streak. Dude, we got on a hot streak on a boat one time. Me and my buddy, Cowhead and our buddy Pete and we were fucking, we were rolling hot and fucking people are making a lot of money. And we're talking, I'm on my 20th roll and I'm hitting them and hitting them and hitting them and I grab them one time and I go to roll and the dealer guy hits my hands with the fucking stick.

1:53:32And I go, what? And he goes, Miss Roll and I go, and then I rolled a cramped out of seven. And I was like, fuck that. I go, fuck that. And then the guy goes, all right, I'm out and he just clocked out and walked away. And I fuck me and my buddy, Pete made him apologize to us. Why did he say it was a bad roll? He just, they try to fuck up your flow. They don't want your flow to fucking. Oh, they don't want you to stay hot. Yeah, you're hot. Let's fuck it up. Mm, what is this? This is a rolled record shit for four and a half hours straight. What? Yeah, it's, I mean, the amount of money and the energy at that table would have been insane.

1:54:07Been bonkers. The fun is the shit you say as you roll the dice. Four hours and 18 minutes later, tomorrow had rolled a world record for Crap's Rolls. She rolled 154 times. The odds of accomplishing this are 1 and 1 .56 trillion. Do you know how much money she made that people at that table? What does that mean? So she rolled the same number every time? No, it means that she didn't roll a seven after her come out roll for that many rolls. She may have rolled a seven, but if you roll a seven on your come out roll, then you get paid. See, this is why it's confusing. They try to pretend it's not confusing.

1:54:41No, it's not confusing. Yeah, it better just have to do it once and twice. You have to do it a couple of times. You have to do it a couple of times. I've got fucking interesting. Backer at the rough ones. So, Dana said, Dana said he goes, take out, I think he said $275 ,000. Marker, to me and Tommy, he's like, I was gonna be in Vegas. I go, he was burnt, take out a $275 ,000 marker, come play back around with me, I'll double your money. And I was like, I was like, if you, what, just, Nate. Nate, sir. Tom's like, do it and Liam wouldn't let me do it. She's like, no, fucking way. She's gonna, you're gonna lose it?

1:55:12And he's gonna be like, oh, I didn't see that coming. Or you're gonna like get addicted to doing that and you're gonna wanna do it all the time. That's what she sees coming. She sees it coming like she sees everything else. No big guy, give me those pills. I got the echo in all of it. Yeah, she's right. She's right. I mean, look, Dana's got a lot of money, he makes a lot of money, he can do that. He likes doing that. It works somehow or another. It wouldn't work for me. No, it's not my thing. It's not my thing. But for some people, like he loves living in Vegas. He loves playing. He loves Vegas.

1:55:43Loves it. Loves it. He's got the town wired, you know? Why wouldn't he love it? You know, the sports there all the time. We got the UFC PI there. So there's fights there almost, I mean, every month there's a fight at the apex, at least. What's, can I tell you the craziest experience of that whole thing, other than meeting Mel Gibson, which was a dream. He was the sweetest guy. He's a nice guy. He was the nice guy. I told you I met him on the plane and flying here. And then he walked by me, like when he left at the plane, he's like, maybe I'll see this weekend. I was like, hopefully. And then when he walked into UFC, he came over, grabbed my leg.

1:56:18He's like, what's up big guy? And I was like, the guy's next to me, like, you know, you know, Mel Gibson, I was like, yeah, but the coolest way back, coolest part was the fucking guy, Arya Manuel. Watching the character from Entourage, be himself, because I sat right behind him. And he was just, he's the guy. He's much more reasonable. He's still a character. Oh, he's definitely a character, yeah. Nice guy. He's a nice guy. Him and Peter Berg were right up right in front of me and Leanne. I love that dude. Peter Berg is a shit. Have you even watched American Prime Evil? Of course. Fuck me. Fuck God.

1:56:58Peter Berg's a great dude. And he was a great actor. Do you remember Aspen and Stream? Yeah. He was great in the show too. He was great in American Prime Evil. He's great. He's been in a bunch of movies, but I think like he really shines as a filmmaker, you know. Wait, what's the movie? What's the TV show Gary Olman's in right now? Not Black Dubs. It's an Apple. Joe, this is the best damn show out there. Apple's making some bang and shows. Slow horses. Have you seen it? No. Joe. Yeah. Slow horses is Gary Olman's best work yet in my opinion. Really? He is so fucking good and it is such a great show.

1:57:37Damn, slow horses on Netflix. It's what's great about these shows. Oh, no, on Apple. Like the English or or slow horses or Black Dubs is their six episodes, but it's a six episode arc. So it's not just like episodic, like we remember like a old drama's being where the whole thing happened in the hour and then you never have to watch that again. Brand new one, the whole thing happens in an hour. They're these episode arcs where it starts off telling a story and you pay out by the last episode, much like Peaky Blinders. Right. Peaky Blinders would, they were great standalone episodes, but that episode, it was so addictive.

1:58:14Yeah. The streamers have changed the way we're taking in content because you start, if you start slow horses tonight, you'll watch all six and then you'll be like, honey, we're watching all of these tomorrow. Really? It's so fucking good. Ooh. Gary Olman's awesome. Gary Olman's the third best vampire movie is his Dracula. Oh, his Dracula? His Dracula was very good. It was very good. But are you a Dracula guy? Love Dracula. Yeah. Who, who do you like more Dracula or the Werewolf? Werewolves. Werewolves? They're the most fun. The most fun, like just some poor dude. Yeah. It was like the moon changes like fuck.

1:58:50Ah! And just waking up, covered in blood, like what happened? Like the idea of it is just so crazy. I always just always loved Werewolf movies. What happened to Benicio del Toro's Werewolf movies? That was a good one. I never saw it. It was good to just have peed it out. It was, there was some real great moments in it that we played it a bunch of times, but the one when they're in the theater, the medical theater, and he's trying to convince this guy that the guy's insane. He's like, I'm here to show you that he will not turn into a wolf. He thinks he will. You know, and so they have him strapped up.

1:59:20It's like, I'm going to kill you all! This body starts to fucking... It's an amazing transformation scene. But Rick Baker did that film. The same guy that did American Werewolf in London. Yeah, it's the, you know, the Werewolf that we have in the lobby. That's the greatest Werewolf movie. Of all time. Yeah. No question. Because it's John Landis. It's actually funny. There's funny moments in it. It's really fucking good. It's a good movie. Did it a great job of only showing the wolf like a little bit? So you're really scared when you actually see it. They don't like get you numb to the thing being there.

1:59:54So this is the theater scene. It starts changing.

2:00:01So this is like, they did a combination of CGI and makeup. So the thing about CGI is like right there, that CGI. CGI, you kind of know it's CGI. There's the uncanny valley effect, right? Yeah. And so when he fully transforms in the scenes where he's attacking people, he's an actor, he's Benicio del Toro, but with all these prosthetics on. And it looks much more realistic like the way it moves, the way it behaves. Like when he goes after these people, it seems like go back up so you can see it ripped the guys heart out. Oh, he threw the dude through the window. Is back up a little bit before that is when he tears the guy apart.

2:01:07Oh, it seems to be locked.

2:01:12Oh my God.

2:01:19See, so when it's a dude in a costume with all the fur on it, the way it moves is just, they can't quite fix that in CGI. It's not quite there. Yeah, it still gives you that thing where there's a suspension of disbelief. But when they use, you know, when they use makeup, like they did in American War of the London, and like, like though transformation scene in American War of the London, do you remember that one? Yeah, the guy's in the bedroom or in the living room and he just starts fucking. His back pops up and he stretches out and starts getting. Aren't they playing like a CCR in that? Yeah.

2:01:57I think it's bad moon. We're in a wolf and London. No, I think it's bad moon on the rise. There's bad moon on the rise. God damn. I mean, I could use a new wearable. You know what they were doing? They're doing it. The guy who did Nosferado is going to do a wear wolf movie now. No shit. They were going to do a series of all the horror movies and it started with the mummy with Tom Cruise. They had one set up for Johnny Depp. But the mummy with Tom Cruise is not the mummy, the scary mummy from like when we were kids. Yeah, but they were all reimagined. Like I took a meeting with that, whatever that studio was.

2:02:30And they were they always wanted a comedic actor in it for the one that in the mummy. It was Jake. Jake guy's such a great actor and I'm fucking flaking on his name. He was in New Girl Jake. Jake Johnson. Jake Johnson is funny. A shit. He is a great actor and he was the comedic relief in the mummy and and they were going to do that with each of them. So they had one set up for Johnny Depp. They had a set up for big stars. Everyone was getting their own. Wasn't it Brandon Frazier originally? He was in the original mummy. Original original. Yeah, and then it was the rock. Oh, that's right. That's right.

2:03:11And then it was Tom Cruise. I love Brandon Frazier's revival. Isn't it amazing? Dude. Isn't it great when a guy comes back and not just comes back, what comes back and kills it in a movie. And then like has this like heartfelt speech where he's like tearing up and crying and like everybody loves him again. That must have felt awful for that guy. He was his giant movie star. He was in all these giant films and then for whatever reason, he just kind of like faded away. He got me too. Is that what happened? He's but by a dude. Dude tried to fucking touch him and he stood up to the guy. I was like, I mean, you go fuck yourself.

2:03:45I was like, I'll ruin your career. If I'm pair, obviously my memory is whatever the fuck it is. But he came out and he said, you know, I was blackpulled. Because I got fucking call to do it out. Let's find out. That's true. Yeah, find out that's true. I'm gonna have to edit that out. Allegedly. Allegedly is a great word. The, but it's crazy. Those I saw some of Mickey Rourke. That's what he said. Yeah. Okay. Mickey Rourke said he had worked for 13 years. And Mickey Rourke was the man. Popo Greenwich Village. Oh, Angel Heart. Angel Heart shut the fuck up, dude. Didn't he do the one with the ice cube on the stomach, the blue dream or blue?

2:04:29Right with Kim Basinger. Where he's like, and it was like the ultimate sex movie. And the flowers there. They, they, what was it called? Wild work. Wow, working. Yeah, look, crazy. But he said he, I saw an interview with him and he said he hadn't worked for 13 years. He was down on his money. I saw that. His motorcycles and his clothes. He dressed himself up one night and took himself out for a bowl spaghetti. And it's all the money he had and fucking Silvestre still on a walk by and he's like, Hey, man, where you been? He's like, he's been out. And he was like, you want to work in a movie? He was like, yeah.

2:05:00And he goes, that one movie paid six months of my rent and it was his comeback. Yeah. Mickey Rourke's always been a badass. He was awesome. I bought clothes because I saw what he was wearing on a Sunday. He had on the coolest fucking outfit. And it's so silly, but he had like a, a deedous track pants. This has had to be like 2001, a deedous track pants with a white adidas shoes and a, and a wife beater. And he was putting cases of Heineken in the back of a Cadillac DTS. And I was watching him from across the street. And I was like, I'm getting those pants. I'm getting these shoes, Puma shoes, adidas pants and a fucking wife beater.

2:05:34And I chewed out dress like that, hoping someone be like, dude, that's a badass outfit. No one ever said it to me. You know, it's a great, I would have said it. Thank you. You know, it's a great movie that people have slept on that forgot about with him. Chinatown. Wait, is he a Chinatown? Now, what was it called? It wasn't Chinatown was Jack Nicholson, but there was another, there was a Chinatown contaminant. You're the dragon. You're the dragon. What's here? The dragon. That's what it was. That's what it was. Which one's here? The dragon. You're the dragon is he's a cop. He's like a dirty cop in this Chinese mob film.

2:06:10It's really good, man. It's really good. What year is this? 85 85. So I was in fucking high school, man. Wow. This is the year I graduated high school. It's a good movie, though, man. Real good movie. It might not hold up. Really hot Chinese lady falls in love with her. Oh, baby. It's crazy when you see your heroes get older, you know, like Harrison Ford to see him now and be like, he's great in that 1923 show though. Have you been watching that? I was just Taylor show. Yeah. No, I haven't seen it. Oh, this is why I just saw. Yeah, we were talking about that episode for last night. He's great in that.

2:06:44He's he's the man. You know, they said the rumor is they they were going to cast Tom Selic as Han Solo. Did you hear this? Yeah, and he was a carpenter. He was a Mark Hamill who told me the story. Yeah. And he was really. Yeah, yeah, he said they were having. They're having Harrison read with everyone. So because he was like, you know, great actor, but he was also a carpenter. And then like you just read sides with people as they audition. So we read, we carry red with Mark, we're everyone. They were going to cast Tom Selic. And at the last minute, they said, you know, I don't know, man. Some about Tom Selic isn't dangerous.

2:07:14There's something dangerous about Harrison Ford. And there is really working. It just, yeah. And he is, I mean, I just watched all three readers of the Lost Ark the other night. And he is fucking funny. He's great. Do you know that scene where the guy pulls out the sword, so I'm swinging around. He just shoots him. Yeah. You know, he improvised that. That's fucking amazing. Amazing scene. And improvise it. I remember watching it in the movie theater and going, yeah. Perfect. That's what you hope always happens. The fuck out of here with that sword. Boom. And he was a, he was a hero with a tragic flaw.

2:07:49And that was snakes. That was his weakness. That was his Achilles heel. Also, he was a professor that was like secretly dangerous. Secretly out of the self real archeology. He had a whip. Here it is. There's a scene.

2:08:06They were supposed to have this whole choreographed thing with the sword and the whip.

2:08:18How many franchises is he the actor that's had the most franchises behind him? No, it's got to be Tom Cruise, right? Oh, yeah. Well, you think Cruise top? Well, he was in the new top, come wasn't he? Yeah, it was. I didn't watch it. You didn't watch it. Oh, I didn't watch a little. It's so good. I turned it off. I cried again. I turned it off after a while. What's that? I don't think I'm a horse for this correct. Oh, he is the most. So he's got Star Wars. He's got Raiders of the Lost Ark. Raiders of the Lost Ark. Jack Ryan. He's got 20 of them. Oh, Jack. He's got 20 of them. Wait, what are this franchise roles?

2:08:53I don't know if it's like, you know, a small role for 20 different franchises. Oh, okay, little starring in franchises. You got the two big ones. Raiders of the Lost Ark. Huge. Star Wars, the hugeest of all time. Can you imagine doing, can you imagine doing Star Wars and then doing Raiders of the Lost Ark? Can you be just being like, I guess I don't fuck up. I guess I just hit dingers. Well, I mean, can you imagine? He obviously is very fortunate to get cast in those, but also he killed it, right? It's like, apparently one of the cool suits to party with the scene with him and fucking the love tension between him and Carrie Fisher was amazing.

2:09:30Okay, can I ask you something? As a first grade bird to a fourth grade Joe Rogan. Did you know that Darth Vader was his dad in the first episode? No. Okay, I didn't either. I'm a fucking cousins were like, how did you not know that? I mean, all your cousins are douchebags. Yeah, they didn't know either. God, they're bullshit. I found out and they were like, God, did you know, no, they were those guys. You know, those guys have just read something and then barks it out. You like, how the fuck do you not know this man? You don't know the fuck your federal reserves. Oh, you don't know about the ice wall.

2:10:01I think the data game show called you'd be shocked what Burke doesn't know. People make a lot of money. Oh, yeah, I don't know anything. Yeah, I know shit that doesn't help. Do you know the most interesting shit at a dinner party to talk about? Like, I don't know any of that shit. Well, I definitely can do that. I can talk on the surface level about a lot of stuff. Do you like when a person like like Taylor, you were kind of between three conversations because you were talking to your wife. You're talking to David, but like, me and Leanne were dead set talking to Taylor. And I love, I love when a dude hold, hold, hold, hold, like that was a great take when he set the way he sat where he's like, let me tell you about.

2:10:40I remember Liam was like, I had four on a cat. I had a cattle as a kid and he goes, yeah, I got 14 ,000. And I was like, Leanne, shut your mouth. Let him talk. He did fucking yellowstone. Let him talk. Don't stop. Don't interrupt. He's a storyteller. He's a great storyteller. And he's a guy, you know, there's a ranch that I hunt at in California. And he was a cowboy on that ranch. Yeah. At one point in time, an actual cowboy. He actually worked and helped to fucking move cattle around. Oh, and you know me, like, you know, if sometimes if you tell a story, I get a stem of story, I'll tell you my story after.

2:11:11Yeah. Buddy. There's none of those in that guy. You can't, you can't top any of his fucking stories. But that's why stories are so good. It's like lived experience. Very lived experience. And a real understanding. That's like his love for the cowboy culture is like completely legitimate. It's why the yellowstone is so good. Yes. It you can't, you can kind of, I mean, you can fake it. People have faked it before. But when someone does it that really loves it, that's when it gets people excited. And they moved to Montana. They decide they want to live that life. It's like avatar depression. Oh, I'm going to be on Pandora.

2:11:45It's like people, you know, they get sucked in by someone who's done an amazing job of telling a film or a story in a show. And that's what entertainment is really all about. For me, I'm not looking for any fucking lessons about equity and inclusion. I'm already, I already think that way. I already think that all human beings are the same. We're all just one thing experiencing each other subjectively, as Bill Hicks had. I believe that. So I don't need that lesson. That lesson just makes me feel like you're preaching to me and that shit's annoying. I don't like it. It's, I get, I already know these things.

2:12:21Stop. We're doing it for other people. It doesn't work. It doesn't work. It just makes people more self -righteous and they want to talk about it all the time. I have a weird question. Do you think because I feel like, because I'm on Instagram a lot, like I might be switching to a flip -flown. Right. But I'm not watching anything right after you quit drinking. No, my wife already bought the flip -flown. She was like, dude, I daughters put parental controls on my Instagram. Yeah, it's a little bit serious. Yeah, yeah, I got the door. I can get through them. But would you think that like, I notice a lot of people now are almost living for Instagram.

2:12:59Like, like, hey, this is me and my three friends and we're sailing around the world. And then do you think people were doing that before Instagram? No. No, I think definitely people are doing things so that they can show that they're doing things. But if you're actually doing things, like it's a balancing thing. Like if you're experiencing more stuff because you're documenting it for your YouTube channel, you're still experiencing more stuff. I mean, you are kind of, you're putting it all out there, but if you're still experiencing more stuff, like that's probably net positive. Yeah. The problem is when you find yourself hanging out with your friends, but all you're doing is staring at your phone.

2:13:35You know, and it's a real, it's a real trap that we all get sucked into, especially if you got a good algorithm. You know, it's filled with stuff that pisses you off or freaks you out, which is mine. Oh, I don't watch any. My shit's, my shit's all people doing epic shit. And I go, yeah, like I like I followed these two dudes climb Everest. I followed them on Instagram, climb fucking Everest. And I was like, I want to climb count Mount Kilimanjaro. No, no, no, no. Coming Jaro is achievable. But I go, I want to do epic shit. Like I got to a place when I was, I started taking time off in July. And I was like, yo, I need, I want a month on a sale to Hawaii.

2:14:11I want to see what it's like to be afraid, you know, in the middle of the ocean. Pull up how many people die. I'm out killing Monjaro. Oh, nobody. Mount Kilimanjaro is easy. Yeah. It's a light lift. There's a light left people have died. It's Mount Kilimanjaro is easy. I guarantee you. No, it's like a long haul hike. I bet people have died. I okay. I bet it's under 10. How many? Three to 10 a year. Oh, yeah. But watch how many people will die going Everest. Yeah, that's not good. Oh, if you play Rush rule with five bullets, you can shot more. I only play with one. How? Ask him to know. Hold on.

2:14:45That's a stupid fucking thing to say. You know, many people definitely don't die on Mount Kilimanjaro that don't go to Mount Kilimanjaro. 100 % of the people that don't go up that fucking stupid mountain. Just get a fucking Oculus and watch that shit. I'll just watch it. Watch it in your head. You can get videos of it. 340 people have died attempting to reach a return. What what happened? Oh, Mount Everest. Since records began, many bodies remain. Have you ever seen the bodies scattered like the map of the bodies where they show where the known dead bodies on Mount Everest are? It's terrifying.

2:15:21Do you want to know the craziest one? Sure. So the first dude to ever attempt the sunman, I think his name is Mallory, right? Yeah. And Hillary is one guy there. So he they said they found his body, you know, probably like five years after, ten years after. And they said he had a broken leg of fractured skull and his pick. And that's how they could figure out it was him because his initials were in his pick. And they said he always carried a picture of his wife, because he was going to put the picture of his wife on the top of Mount Everest. And it wasn't in his pocket. So they're like, did he?

2:15:52Was he, in fact, the first person to get there? Oh, probably. And then he died there and then died on the route coming down. Probably. The other thing that I think is wild is Sir Edmund Hillary and Tenzig Norgeh made a deal that they would reach the summit at the same time. Because it was like, you know, who gets to the summit first? Right, right. And it's a, I mean, when you think about it, you know, especially with racism back then, Edmund Hillary was a kiwi. And you know, he must have been like, hey, brown guy, just carry the bags. I'm going to, I'm going to get up there and you come up, get a picture of me.

2:16:23And then we'll do it one together and then we'll head down. But they made a deal to go up together because they needed him that much. Hmm. Well, you definitely need those Sherpas can go all the way up there with no oxygen. Do Sherpas will get locked on a ledge with a bunch of white people. The white people have to have allocated copters come out and get them a helicopter. And I think they're going to get to like 23 ,000 feet is like the safe zone. They'll come and get the white people out. And then the Sherpas are like, oh, we're going to walk down. We're good. Yeah. They'll hang out for like seven days up there.

2:16:52And then I just heard a documentary about it or a podcast. But those guys can are so fucking good at it. Also, they're so adapted to that climate. They live up there. That the the adaption is a big part of it, right? Because it takes a long time to be able to adapt to that low of an altitude or high of an altitude, rather. Look what they're carrying on that shit on his back that is crazy. Bro, I walk around with a 45 pound plate and I can play. That's so much shit that guy must have legs of steel. How bad is his like? I bet they all smoke. I bet they smoke like a chimney. Do they smoke? Do Sherpas smoke?

2:17:33I just saw a documentary on Netflix about the earthquake in. Smoking. Eric Shipton. Look at that guy. This one in the early explorer type fellows. Click on that to do with the pipe. Yeah. Look at that guy back in the day, man. No fucking internet. These guys had heard about it. They heard about it. You know, we're going to go. They probably saw a photo that one person took, you know, I mean, back then. You know, we fucking people had photos. The guy who figured out the height in like what? Fucking 30 in right turn of century was a Indian guy or, you know, Nepalese. He figured out the height and he was within 30 feet of being correct.

2:18:13Just from distance and do a math, he was in 30 feet after satellite images came in. Look at this. Everest Pioneers packed 15 ,000 cigarettes. Holy shit. Despite low oxygen. I bet they thought it was good for their lungs. Well, people used to think that it was like an exercise for your lungs. They did that with Teddy Roosevelt. Teddy Roosevelt's dad. Teddy Roosevelt has asthma. That's right. And his dad would make him smoke cigars with him in his lounge. He's like, it'll strengthen your lungs. Yeah, I saw something like that where a doctor and it was like an old timey movie. God, who was it? Who was it?

2:18:49I think he was Leonardo Caprio. Like who did Leonardo Caprio play in a movie? He played some famous wealthy guy. How are you? That's right. And I think it was when Howard Hughes was young. He had bad lungs and the doctor was prescribing cigarettes to him. God, I hope I'm not remembering this wrong. I may be. But I know that they used to some doctors would recommend cigarettes to certain people that have certain lung issues. Yeah, which is so crazy. I would see that. They were so bad. Oh, the dude. How bad was going to the doctor back then? Oh, they were just guessing. I mean, not just guessing, but guessing so wrong.

2:19:26I asked my dad about the polio vaccine and I go, do they have to run it by your parents? He goes, parents, they just took us into the gym and stuck everyone. I mean, they just were like, yo, we think this works. What was the, there's a controversy yesterday when there was some sort of a hearing on whether or not they should ban sugar and and candy from school lunches. Whether they should discourage sugar and candy and it was something like the American Heart Association voted to not restrict the diets of kids. And everybody was like, what? What's going on? Like, let me get this right because I was supposed to save this and I was on the phone.

2:20:14And I didn't see if you'd find it, Jamie. But it was a conversation that was happening yesterday. And it was being shared on the internet with people freaking out. When you're talking about school lunches, not like what your parents remember correctly. Unfortunately, so there were restrictions. I don't want to find out the stake in there were restrictions on what we could give our kids to school. Really? You couldn't just give them everything. You couldn't just give them candy. Couldn't give them candy. Yeah, here it is. Trump officials want to ban junk food from snap, but past ever it shows not easy.

2:20:42No, that's not it. That's the only thing coming up. Yeah, it has to do with this, but I don't know what's. There was a video. Oh, God, I want to save them. Supplemental nutrition assistance program. Yeah, that that's, I think that's the push, but there was resistance to it that I thought was crazy. God damn it. I know I saved it. Is that it?

2:21:07Okay, this is it. American Heart Association opposes the snap sugary food drink regulations. That's what it is. American Heart Association opposes a Texas bill that would restrict using snap benefits to purchase sugary drinks and process snacks. Critics question of corporate funding influences the American Health Association's policies. The AHA's opposition to spark criticism over its history of receiving funding from major food companies like PepsiCo and Coca -Cola, raising concerns about conflicts of interest. And AHA spokesperson said their position on the Texas legislation was miscommunicated.

2:21:46They say the organization has long favored the USDA using its authority to increase the consumption of healthy foods and decrease consumption of sugary drinks. So they changed their opinion probably based on controversy. Hmm, okay, I often say, look at this, during the hearing lawmakers and public health advocates voiced their opinions. State Senator Lois co -courced express shock over AHA's opposition during the hearing. I often say that I can never be surprised in this building, but for the American Heart Association to be against this bill that might be the surprise of the session so far. It's kind of weird that they would, they would, I mean, it doesn't even make sense.

2:22:32That's obviously not good for you. No. Like, why would they encourage that or change it? Like, what would be their, I forget what their argument was. Is it like a classist argument? I don't know. It's because it seems like a classist thing. When you go to Whole Foods, it's different than going to Rouse or Vollins. This is what it says. 20 testified the AHA was concerned about the bill's potential impact on snap participation. They also emphasized the importance of educating the public about healthy eating instead of restricting purchases. See, but that seems weird. Like, what better way to encourage healthy eating than say, you're not going to starve.

2:23:08You can get food. But you can't buy shit. You can go buy hamburgers. But where does this line draw the line? I'm just thinking like the other day I was in traffic and I thought, I can't believe they still let people ride motorcycles. Because people die all the time. And they cut lanes. They die cars too. But in motorcycles, like I'm getting one and my wife's like, that's how you're getting one. Yeah, fuck yeah. Why are you doing that? Just hardly reached out. Oh, don't. And they were like, come on, but you want to come for me. Do just for late night. Drive out here. Late nights when the crack hits.

2:23:40Oh, I'll tell you what, I'll leave it here. If I can leave it your studio. Yeah, leave it here. And then this will be my Austin bike. I'm coming to Austin. I'm coming to Austin. I'm coming to Austin. I'm coming to Austin. This motherfucker. Yeah, you're part of it. I'm coming to Austin for like two weeks in June. Nice. Get ready for my tour. Your kids have left the nest. Brother. Buddy, I'm living with one person every day all fucking day. Wild. I know. We do everything together. Come on. Come here. You don't need to be in that bullshit state. The, uh, there's no need for that anymore. The mother should just such a great.

2:24:11So you're fucking house. Such a great place to do stand up. It's such a great vibe right there. It's a great place to hang. No, dude, fun. I went over there after our party on by south by. And just got fucking lit. Atoni, Shane. It's a fun place, man. Call it. Call it early. But I told Leanna said, I'm gonna do like a week and a half start. I was gonna do a little run of my tour bus. I said, I think I'm gonna take my tour bus to Austin. Just stay here for like a week, two weeks. It's a good place to fuck around. Did new stuff too, especially in the little room. That little room is just, uh, I can't tell you how valuable it is to have phones and yonder pouches.

2:24:45Comedy source doing that now. Yeah, Peter Schort told me. Really? Yeah. I was so excited. Not two weeks ago. That is amazing. Really? I don't know. I said some wild shit. Oh, no, when it get out. Uh -huh. You can't practice. You can't fucking say it. You gotta be able to practice and part of practicing. It's the snitches that want you to say that it's almost like it's the fucking cunts that you they can't help it because you can get so many likes. Yeah. And I'm like, you want this comedy. Right. But if you put something, you say something while on stage and it's funny and they laugh, you could take that and put it on your Instagram and you'll get two million views.

2:25:25And that's just too tempting for people. We bust people with those metaglasses. Yeah, they try to come in with their fucking Ray Bans on and film things. Those metaglasses are amazing. My friend Jimmy works for the UFC Hadam on the other day. Upon arrival at the venue, all phones secured in Yonder bags. Is this the store? Yes, Comedy Store. December 10th? Yep. 2024. Oh, wow. Nice. Oh, I guess so. They just forgot. Or maybe it was a comic who had his phone out. So a comic through you down the river. Fucking that happens. Oh, there's a lot of country comics, especially like a lot of country comics.

2:26:02I'm starting to think that's all they got. No, buddy. Do you ever, hey, Joe, do you ever, this is what makes me crazy. What makes you crazy, percreture? Do you ever be friends with someone and then all of a sudden realize you've been competing the whole time, but you didn't know you were in a competition. Yeah, that's unfortunate. That's unfortunate. Inspired by is a better way to look at life. Competing is just not good. I would never once competed with another comic. I've been inspired by so many fucking comics. That's good. You have a healthy mindset. But I think our whole group has a healthy mindset.

2:26:34I think so. Yeah, we don't have any cuts. We don't have a jealous, bitter cuts in the group of people that we're hanging with. I mean, that's so important. I hung with Shepel one night and he's called. I was in Dayton. He was like, yeah, why don't you come out with party? And I was like, cool. And then we went out and party tonight. You know, I kind of forget what a fan I am of his. I'm like, how just how great he is. I mean, his kicker in the pussy joke might be one of my favorite jokes ever that's ever been written. It's so fucking dope. Oh, he's a great comic, but he's a great human. He's a great human.

2:27:04He's a fun hang. He's a genuine, sweetheart of a guy. I was with him right before I shot the special and I said to him, we're fucking lit, right? And I go, yo, Dave, I don't want to fucking. I go, I don't want to talk shop. I just want to hang, but I got to say, you're the greatest ever to do it. I'm getting ready to shoot my special. I just would love a little bit of your insight of what you think, like how you prepare for one. He's pellets of cigarette and he's like, all right. How many shows? I said six. He goes, perfect. Here's it. And then he breaks down. I'm not going to do it because it's Dave's secret.

2:27:36It's Dave's thing. He shared. But he broke down how he does a special to me, me and him sitting in a fucking, in a barn in the middle of a field in fucking three in the morning with IVs in our arms. And I was like, I was like, dude, I gave him a hug. I was like, he's just saying he's the fucking greatest him in cat Williams to the baddest mother fuckers and the sweetest guys. But I was like, that, that energy, like I have no, I want, I want shepelles special to be fucking amazing when it comes out. Like everyone's telling me how great shorts are special is I can't wait to fucking watch it. Yeah, but never get out of it.

2:28:10That's a good attitude. That's how you're supposed to think. That's how I, yeah, that's, that's how I think. But it's not what's the other way is not for you. Yeah, let me see that. Think about it is the other way is, but you want another one, you want a new one? Yeah, I'll take a new one. The other way is bad for you as a human. Yeah. It's not healthy to think that way. It doesn't do you any good. It only serves you to get fucked up. It only serves your ego and your bullshit. You get the clippers. Yeah. There you go. F -E -Go, man. It's just not good for you. It doesn't help you. It only hurts you.

2:28:43It doesn't hurt the person that you're jealous of and it hurts you. It's just, it's not necessary. You could, you could just be inspired and you could say, oh, this fucking mutt can make it. You can say that. I can do it too. But don't be jealous. If you don't like someone and they're becoming very successful, maybe think why you react so strongly because a lot of times it's unfortunately jealousy. Like, there's comics that I don't think they're very, very good. They don't make me laugh, but I don't care. I don't get mad at them. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I don't get upset at them. I mean, I'll be friends with them.

2:29:21I'll be, I'll like them. There's comics that I had to learn how to do that because it used to be like, if guys weren't funny, I just couldn't deal with them. Couldn't hang out with them. I'm friends with a few people that suck. But they're nice people. You could separate that. But I'm also friends with some people that are mind -blowing. And there's such a value in that. You know, when you're around people that are like really good at what they do when you're around Dave, and Schultz is my favorite for going to a place and then talking shit about the place in such a brilliant way. I think Schultz is fucking brilliant.

2:29:59He's so good. Dude, the whole shit would Kendrick Lamar. I was getting in the shower reading it, texting him. I'm sitting outside the shower, texting him my favorite lines. The only thing he gets to do is decide if it's consensual. That was crazy. But I get inspired by motherfuckers like that. He's a funny dude, man. And the thing he did, did you ever see the thing he did about Hawaii? No. Oh my God, it's so funny. He's in Hawaii. He starts to set up. He goes, I've never seen chickens more confident. It's so big about chickens in Hawaii. Just wandered. It's just, it's such a funny bit. It's so, if you've been to Hawaii, you know, it's chickens all over the fucking place.

2:30:43It's kind of crazy. Do you know who else does that? Tommy. Oh yeah, Tommy shits on a place so aggressively and they love it. He did Dublin one year. I like, same way we both did it and he goes, is it fun? I said, I had the best time of my life. He goes up and it's the day the king gets coordinated. And he goes out first words. He's like, fuck your king. And the place starts going, oh, lay, lay, lay, lay, lay. Tommy didn't know if they were going to stop singing. We did a show in Hawaii and he goes at Pearl Harbor and they're like, all right, Tommy opens the show. He goes, they're like, first rule, don't make fun of the audience.

2:31:19Second rule, do not bring up Pearl Harbor. First and second joke, first joke. Man, they say island life's slow. I didn't know they were talking about your metabolism. Man, you guys are fat as fuck. I was taking a walk. I don't want to be as fat as you guys. I got lost on the base. Look, there are a couple Japanese guys that are pretty familiar with where how this base operates. The fuck me and Russell Peters are crying laughing. The admirals losing is my god damn it. What did I fucking tell him? That's hilarious and they think they can tell you what not to talk about. I have an offer to do Dubai.

2:31:51Don't. Thank you. You're gonna fuck up. You're gonna say something stupid. That's what they're gonna put you in jail. Thank you. Yeah, they're arrest people over there. I know. You can't play games Dubai. Do you see that one lady who went crazy at the airport? No. Yeah, she got a little, little rowdy at the airport. It's our dealing with people and they're like, that's a wrap. You're going to jail. Dude. They'll fuck around over there, man. I have a friend who moved there. My friend will and he's a documentary filmmaker and he said, like, it's so safe over here. He goes, that's what I love about it.

2:32:22He goes, when I was in America, I was like, you go out at night, you're at a club. You always worry, someone's gonna pull a gun out, something's gonna happen. He goes, there, there's nothing. Yeah. No crime. But there's like Singapore, there's crazy rules. Right. And if you don't know all the rules. It's the real good question. Would you rather have a little bit of danger and very little rules? Or would you rather have no danger and a lot of rules? I want a little danger and a little rule. I agree. Yeah, I don't want to live in a place where they were strict what you could say and what you do.

2:32:49It's something in that. They said to me in the contract, we signed up to do, I do a tour starting October, permission of party. Permission of party is the name of the fucking tour. Permission of party and they go, what about Dubai? I go, I don't think they're gonna give me permission. I think they're gonna, the first thing was you have to wear a shirt on stage. And I was like, yeah, that's a wrap. I go, hey man, that's crazy. It's kind of my thing. Like, yeah, I'm comfortable shirtless. That's how I perform. That's so crazy. If I can't wear no shirt. Oh, there's a, okay. You guys have crazy rules.

2:33:21Those rules don't make sense. Yeah. Like, what about the shirt to Sola? They have to have, they wear shirts. They do. They do. I'm making that up. Like, what about MMA? How come they have MMA over there? How can they have MMA? That's what I'm saying. Are they performing with no shirts on? Yeah. You're gonna make guys wear fucking wet suits? What are you gonna, what are you gonna, what are you gonna, what are you gonna wear? By the way, that's the same argument I said as I got kicked out of a Buffalo Wild Wings with my shirt off and they're like, put your shirt on and go, the guys on MMA are wearing fucking shirts.

2:33:50Yeah, that's different. It's a little different. That's different. They're doing it in support. But the point is like, if you're performing, that's part of your performance. It's like, you know, there's rules in LA. Like, if you performed on stage, you're allowed to smoke cigarettes. Yeah. Because it's a part of your performance. So like, Shepel was always lighting up even after the rules. And everybody's like, hey, how come he can smoke? Because it was like in the 90s that they passed the laws where you not allowed to smoke in comedy clubs anymore. Do you remember that? Yeah, it was, it was part of your act.

2:34:16You smoke. That's how Ron Waiik smoked cigars on stage. Right, but it was that there was a law before that. You were allowed to smoke in bars. I remember doing stand up when you could smoke at the Boston Comedy Club. And buddy, do you remember the last stop in Houston? Oh, yeah. That place, there were so many cigarettes. You come out with a cough. Yeah, it was the air was filled with smoke. You put your jeans on. You just smell. Oh, yeah, you always smell. I always come home from a club back in the 90s and I'd smell my clothes. They always smell like cigarettes. But you got used to like the smokey room.

2:34:48It was like part of the thing about a comedy club is like, when people smoke cigarettes, they're doing something really stupid. You know what I mean? And like doing something really stupid is a fuck it. There's so much fuck in a cigarette and there's a fuck in a drink. And there's fucking in this guy talking shit on stage. I suck this whole dick. Ah! It like led to the atmosphere. I love it. I love the pool halls too. I love being around the smokers, even if I didn't want anything to do with it. Do you remember the comics that was smoke on stage? And then they go and do the tonight show and they didn't know what to do with the right hand?

2:35:18Oh, yeah. There was that, right? Well, back in the tonight show, the early days, I was watching the other day, I was watching Jackie Gleason on the tonight show. And it was the only time I think he was ever on the tonight show, which is kind of crazy. But they were just, he sat there, I mean he liked the cigarette. By the way, he was dead two years later. Yeah. He died of cancer in 87. Google that. Johnny Carson had a little cigarette box. Yeah, so this is a... Those are his cigarettes right there. Yeah, look. The cigarette box. Immediately when he sits down, well Carson, how fucking great does that feel?

2:35:53Carson also died of cancer. Yeah. Look at that. Just sitting there. How sweet it is. Sweet it is. That's what he said right there. He did make some say it. He did smoking the bandit and they offered him points on the movie. And he said, I'll take cash. Whoops. I know. Damn. I saw the sexiest thing in Palm Springs the other day. White cattle. Is it that lady playing golf? No. White cattle. 75 year old woman. Hair done. Little quaff. Windows up. White. Big Cadillac. She puts a 100 cigarette. Windows up and lights it in her car. Just windows up and I went fucking old school. Wow. I don't know. You know, it was last time you saw someone smoking cigarette in the car with a window.

2:36:36I bet that lady's never been vaccinated. She's never going to get cancer. She's never dying. She's never fucking dying. She's got them old school pioneer genes. Do you ever hear the story about Johnny Carson almost got killed by the guy in the mob? Oh, yeah. Yeah. What was that about? It was a, it was a, it was a mob joke or something? No. Frank Sinatra had to negotiate his safety. What was it about? Johnny Carson was at a bar drunk and the mobster's girl was there and the mobster was in the back and Johnny Carson hit on the mobster's girl and like smacked her ass or lifted her shirt skirt up.

2:37:10Oh, no. And they were like, we're going to kill him and they went out and he hid. And then he went out and they're like, no, we have a hit on him. He's going to die. And Frank Sinatra had to negotiate it. Someone just told you know who told it to me? God damn it. Oh, shun him bitch. I'm not fletch your comedy store comic. White hair did tonight show 120 times. You know him. Argus? Argus, I think it was Argus told me that story. That makes sense. Yeah, Argus old school. Yeah. Argus is a funny dude, man. Argus is fucking great, man. He's like very underrated. Unidentified wise guy in his goons picked Carson up off his bar stool and threw him down a flight of stairs before famed saloon owner, Julie Rizzo, whose regulars included Sinatra, Dean Martin and Judy Garland, interceded and prevented a more serious beat down.

2:38:01But the mob big wasn't satisfied and put out a contract to have Carson whacked. Terrified Carson wisely hold up in his UN Plaza palace for three days, missing three shows according to the book. The vengeful mobsters only backed off after one of Carson's contacts at the William Morris agency cut a crime deal with crime boss Joseph Colombo. Holy shit. Oh, the American Civil Rights League. Oh, yeah. The mob boss had recently formed the Italian American Civil Rights League to persuade America that a group that people of Italian descent were being unfairly stereotyped just Mafiosi. That's hilarious.

2:38:37The group is planning for a big rally and Colombo is deeply, deeply disappointed that so far all the networks have refused to cover the rally. Sooner in accommodation was reached NBC News covered the rally and Johnny could leave the apartment. Wow. As for Colombo, he was gunned down in 1971 at the second annual Italian Unity Day rally in Colombo Circle. He was left almost totally paralyzed and died in 1978. Holy shit. That was the last of the rallies. So he deviled. I know there's a way around this. No one's paying attention to a Italian American Civil liberties rally. They're making us look like fucks like we're going to shoot each other in a rally.

2:39:21Bro, god damn. Those are scary days, man. Those are scary, scary days. But that was the story about the store because the store used to be Ciro's nightclub. So Bugsie Seagull owned Ciro's. Did you know that? I knew that. I didn't know that Bugsie Seagull owned it. Yes. It was Bugsie Seagull owned Ciro's nightclub and that place was scary, apparently. That's why all those people see ghosts in that spot. This bad shit happened there. 100%. 100%. You got a mob owned nightclub. People are getting shot. I mean, people got shot at the comedy store when we were there. We. A guy got murdered on the fucking front patio.

2:40:01Oh, dang it. During like, Mo better Mondays or something. Rose was there when it happened. Rose saw the guy die. Oh, shit. Mm -hmm. That's, that's a woman. That place has always attracted crazy people. That place has always, I think there's an energy to that place probably because of the gang history that just made it like extra wild and dangerous, just always felt like anything can happen in that place. I think there's like baked in memories. Like there's photos of like Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis on stage there. That place was like, that was the spot. Like, that was the spot in LA and the mob would all be there and then fucking do deals, whack people and take people down the basement and fucking kill them.

2:40:49That's out of all the scaryness of movies. The scariest part of any movie is when those mob movies where they say to the guy, hey, Johnny wants to talk to you tonight. And the guy's like, tell Johnny I'm calling him on. He's like, now he's said to get in the car now. And the guy goes, well, I'll take my car and he goes, no, no, you're going to get in the car with us. And you know, like, guys, get in the guy. He's going to die. He looks at his friend, takes off his ring, gives it to him. And I don't know. I'm such a bitch that if in those moments I'd be like, no, I don't want to go and just start running.

2:41:18Or like when you see the war movies, when you, when you see like in what was one night, 1917, when they tell those two kids, they got to run and go tell the front line what to do. Is that 1917? I don't know. It's not fine to rush in front. Like my grandfather stormed the beaches in Normandy. Really? Yeah. And he talked all about it. No, he died way before I was born. He was one of those PTSD levitown. Yeah, guys, move to levitown. And my dad said he just was sitting at the garage, drank beers and listening to Met Games and just washed his car. My dad said he never heard his dad ever mentioned the war and if the boroughs brought up, his dad would walk out of the room.

2:41:58But he stormed the beaches in Normandy and I don't know. I don't know if I have the thing in me to get off the boat. I'm thinking I'm a bitch. I think I'd be like, I'd lock down. I'd be like, I'm not getting off. Like when you look at like guys like John Koh and how to get off that boat. I don't think you got a choice. And I think when your friends are running off that boat, you run off that boat too and guys are getting gunned down. You just hope it's not you and you're probably just shit in your pants. Shitting my pants. And that one day, like how many thousands of people died? Thousands and thousands of people died.

2:42:34You just bullets and guns going off everywhere. That fucking movie, the Samu Private Ryan. Yes. Spielberg nailed that movie. Yeah. That opening scene was so fucking horrific that you'd never seen a scene like that in a war movie that accurately depicts people getting torn apart right in front of you. Oh. My dad found his dad's diary from the war. And he photocopied it and sent me the photocopy. My dad has the diary. And it's funny because you know, my memory is like jaded to how I find things interesting. So sometimes it's not 100 % accurate. But if in there, there was a memory of like they took one of these like cue boats, I think or K boats across the fucking Atlantic over to England.

2:43:24Barely got had time to get off the boat, stayed in England for a second. I think they, I want to say they stayed on the boat the whole time and then took that same boat over to, they probably took different boats, but took a boat over to Normandy. My dad's, my grandfather's entry is something to the effect of we're going to this, we're storming this beach today. Like they didn't, I don't think he knew the, like what the, the levity of, or the seriousness of what was happening. I think they were like, like he just very casually mentioned it. Oh, God. And the only other thing I remember out of reading that diary was that he would, he would get water in his helmet to so cold he'd get water in his helmet to shave.

2:44:00And by the time he went to shave, he had to break that it would freeze over with ice and he had to break it with his razor. But to think that the, I mean, just the amount of trauma that those guys went through and no one really cared about it, they were like, just have a, have a fucking shot of scotch. And that was the second time the world had gone to war. The world had gone to war just a couple of decades earlier. Dude, can I tell you what fucking makes me, like makes me stop for a second? When we were in Serbia, they have statues of Gabrielle Pritzip everywhere. He's the guy that shot France, France, Ferdinand, the Archduke.

2:44:35Oh, yeah. They have statues of him everywhere. He's a fucking national hero in Serbia. Because he technically created Yugoslavia. I mean, people have, they wear shirts of Gabrielle Pritzip. They have wallets. So this guy, the movie producer... He started World War War War War. He started, he changed the world forever. That one man is responsible for millions of deaths and, and, and so much suffering that one man. Crazy. And they have statues of this dude. Statues everywhere, dude. Like, some guy, I got obsessed with it. Because I was like, I can't believe you guys, like we call it, we consider that a terrorist in our country.

2:45:09Oh my god. And this one guy gave me a... That's so crazy. They gave me a... Look at that writing. How cool is it writing? Go back to that. Look at the fucking writing at the bottom. Look how cool that is. Gabrielle Pritzip. Can you read that? Yeah. It's real. I think it's, it's Russian. It's acrylic or whatever it is. It's a real acrylic. You can read that? Yeah. For real, you can read Russian? Yeah. I never told you about, well, the time out to Russia. You did, but I didn't know you could, I didn't know you learned how to read it. I thought it was really hard to read. I just met this DJ, very big DJ, DJ Z.

2:45:40He's, if I played you any of his songs, you've heard every one of them, right? Okay. And we met him at, I was with Santino, we were at a tennis tournament. And I said, where's your accent from? And he goes, oh I'm Russian. I said, Giddya. And he goes, Tegava, Dishba, you're scared of sea. I was like, klingeshna. And we started talking to Russian back and forth. How long did you get to learn that? As long as I was there. I got pretty good towards the end. How long were you there for? Like, month and I have three months? That's it? Yeah. That's incredible. Do you have a hidden skill? No. The hidden ability to learn languages?

2:46:09No, I know. I can speak Spanish. I just told you the same Uber drivers picked me up six times in the stallion, doesn't speak English. How'd you learn how to speak Spanish? I just grew up in Florida. Really? Yeah. You might have a secret language ability. No, anyone that just heard me talk in Russian just knows that I barely can, I don't even sound good. Yeah, but you could, I took Italian and college, I can't fucking speak Italian. I took Spanish in high school. I can't speak Spanish. No, I can understand Russian a lot better than I can speak it. Yeah, you might have a hidden ability to learn languages.

2:46:41And I can understand Spanish a lot better than I can speak it. But I was just in Spain, I was just in Spain a week ago and apparently my Spanish sounds like me need ice. Me, at least you could say something. You could communicate. There's something popping off in Serbia right now. Like one of the largest protests ever is happening in Serbia right now. For real? 300 plus thousand people in the streets. So it's a complicated country and I love Serbia. I love Serbia. I don't know what's going on. I have no idea what this protest is about. I just saw it in the newsfeed, popped up, record -sized protest in Serbia.

2:47:17There's over 15 people dying in a rainway. Excuse me, railway station collapse. So what do they, what do they, it's hundreds of thousands of people descended on Serbia's capital to protest over the deaths while I'm not sure. Huh. So was it like some corruption or something? Like some shitty construction? Like what happened? We quote, we just want a country that works, lost it and says. Wow. So hundreds of thousands of people in the streets, cause a real station collapse. That's what it says on BBC. I'm looking to see if it makes any interesting insight. They don't take any shit over there. Dude.

2:47:54Figure it out. Bitch. They get in the street. It's fascinating. I mean, listen, I understand if you're serving, you're listening. You may disagree with what I'm about to say. I'm just going to say it. They fucking hate Albanians. Oh no. They make Albanian jokes like crazy, right? So one day we were on the set and I said one of the guys I go, hey man, like, I'm not like a woke dude. It's just funny joke. But like, what if there's an Albanian here that like heard that, wouldn't, then heard their feelings and he goes, oh, he'd know to be smart enough to keep his fucking mouth shut. You said I went, all right.

2:48:28Never mind. The only Albanian they like is Duolipa. They love Duolipa. They don't, I know I generalizing and I know there's serbians that are like, we don't hate them all, but they all know how to play basketball. They're all tough as fucking shit. Every dude's a fucking man. You don't meet one dude that you don't think is a cage fighter. Bro, these war torn countries are not playing games. Bro, they breed different humans. That's one of those guys come over to the UFC. They're different humans. They had a, and I'm mind you, I got to guess the serbians that I was hanging out with. And one of them is my driver.

2:49:02But like, they had a chant for their president. For the, like, when they're president, they would chant out the other guy and it was like, he's Vinici. He's a faggot. He's Vinici. He's like, right. Such a fucking, I just, I don't know, man, there's something, there's something really interesting about that freedom that they had there that they just talked openly. And like, would they take a cigarette break? And like, the girls would sit down and cuddle up next to a dude that they weren't dating. They'd just touchy like that. Like they don't have like, there's no like intimacy counselor on set.

2:49:36They were just, I remember watching one of the girls sit and have a cigarette with one of the dudes and they were like, just cuddling against the wall. And I was like, are they dating? And they're like, no, they're just friends. Look at that shit.

2:49:49That's Serbian basketball baby. Bro, that's war. That's war. How long before these guys take over basketball? Oh, buddy. Half. Give them another year. They kind of have. Yeah, they're taking over MMA. They're taking over boxing. Look at Don Cheshire. Dude, they just see the three one plays basketball. The girls play basketball there. No one jogs. I was the only one jogging every morning. Every morning I talk by myself. Fucking farmers carrying weights around. They're fucking, they're bait. Those men are beasts. You'd go to the mall. It's like the nicest place to go. But that is the most terrifying basketball game I've ever seen in my life.

2:50:31If I was imagining like showing an American basketball crowd what they do in Serbia, you'd be like, oh, no, they're coming. Wouldn't it be, wouldn't it be great to watch a Serbian team play like one of those inner city teams where you get this? Give me some volume.

2:50:55Look at that. Look at that.

2:51:02Holy shit. That kind of does like fight night intensity. That's that's that's text this fucking high school football. Right, right, right. We used to play a black team growing up. I was like Booker T. Washington and you would, you would, they would come in when we played basketball and the visiting stands would be packed. I can't remember the exact name of the team, but they'd be packed and their thing was boom, we thump, boom, boom, we thump and the whole fucking crowd and we were like just a bunch of white kids. We had no chance. We had no chance. I've got spirit. Yes, I do. I've got spirit.

2:51:34How about you? Maybe like suck out dicks. I put that energy, that high school black inner city energy with some HBCU cheerleaders. You ever seen the HBCU cheerleaders? Yes, I have. Are my fucking favorite versus a Serbian, just fucking no deodorant, just.

2:51:53Come on, I missed Serbia. When those folks start entering into other sports, when people from like hard environments start entering sports, like the scariest guy in the UFC or one of the scariest is from Tetsunia. Tetsunia. Yeah. That's that's that's war torn. Dude, this this guy is a fucking Hamza Chimaya. He is a fucking animal. Have you ever seen that guy? Hamza, Hamza Chimaya pull up Hamza Chimaya versus Kevin Holland. So Hamza Chimaya is the number one contender in the UFC's middleweight division. He's a fucking monster. And he's so aggressive, like relentlessly aggressive. He's known to get in fights like backstage and just an animal.

2:52:41And like in post fight energy, he's like, I'm fucking kill them all. I can't. Wait, did I just watch him drop weight today? Oh, you might have. He's the fight. He shaved his head. They shaved his head to drop weight. No, I don't think so. Maybe. I don't think so. But he just run, go from the right from the beginning because the very, this is the beginning of the fight. Watch how he storms out. He's back to back time. Next up for the top four. Wow.

2:53:08The amount of fucking grappling power you have to have to ragdoll Kevin Holland like this is insane. Kevin Holland is a Brazilian just to black belt under Travis Looter. I mean, he's a legit grappler. That's why he's surviving in these scrambles. His cousin's a legit black belt. What's he saying to him? They're talking shit. Kevin likes to talk shit. Where's a lip reader when you need one? I think Kevin's probably like, come on, man, I thought we were going to stand up. Why don't we fight? Why don't we fight in the feet? He's probably trying to go to him into doing something stupid. Yeah. Kevin talks shit while you're hitting him.

2:53:44I mean, this is crazy grappling the way he rotates with him. And here it is. Here's the dars. So he syncs up the choke and slides through. Watch his right hand. His right hand is going to reach forward and grab a hold of his bicep. Watch how this is when he's sent to see it slides down. When the right hand right now is still open, when the right now clamps, now it's on the bicep. Oh wow, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the choke. The choke's fully locked in now and Kevin's fucked. He's totally fucked and he's going to have to tap and he eventually taps. But I mean, to tap a guy like Kevin Holland and not just tap him, but just, he has no chance at any moment in the fight.

2:54:21It's just total grappling dominance. Look at that. He's a monster. Just a fucking monster. And like the most aggressive guy in the fucking sport, like right away charges and this is it. This is the end. Once he taps it, yeah. He gets, once he gets that leg over the top of the body, so he isolates the body and constricts deeper into the choke. He's done dude. I got choked. I got choked out by my daughter, Ila. Oh no. Yeah, we're on vacation. We're trying not to get choked out. No, she's a little girl. So I thought she's talking shit. But Eddie, Eddie Provost, Eddie Provost got her private jujitsu lessons.

2:54:57So she can take a jujitsu and her fucking gym. And she's, you know, she's dyslexic. So she can never tell you the right move she's about to do. And we're on vacation. And she goes, she goes, it'd be easy. You can slow down their big guy. I'll choke you out. And I was like, oh, you're going to choke me out. She goes, she goes, it's easier to choke out big guys. And I went, really? She goes, I find it easier. And I was like, okay. I was like, try to choke me out. Joe, this little needle arm went around my neck. And I swear to God, boy, she's like 15 at the time. I just went, I tapped. She was like, yeah, that's what I thought.

2:55:31I was like, my daughter, that's what I thought she said. I was like, she's shit. Dude, disrespect. She did. She met Eddie Bravo. She met Eddie Bravo at our house one night. And you know, Eddie me, Sam Tripoli, Eddie and I are lit, right? And we're in the kitchen. We've just done like a podcast. And Ila comes in. She's like, who's this guy? And I go, this is Eddie Bravo. She goes, okay. And she was like, he teaches jujitsu. She goes, I'm going to learn jujitsu. And Eddie goes, really? And she goes, yeah, a little bit of that. Hiya! And Eddie goes, that's not jujitsu. She goes, whatever it is, I want to learn it.

2:56:06So he goes, all right, I'll set you up. And he got her this lady that came over to the house like three times a week. Oh, wow, that's amazing. And the back and Ila loved it. I loved it. Except she'd turn the nest camera around. So we couldn't watch her jujitsu lessons. Oh, that's funny. She was like, I don't want to watch you, I don't want you to watch what I do. I just want to learn it. That's cool. Yeah, it was really cool. It's a very good thing for women to learn. Because jujitsu allows you to defend yourself in a way that very few martial arts really do. Because you don't have to rely on the size of your hands, hitting people and kicking people.

2:56:38It's too hard. It's too hard to knock out a man. Like if you have small hands if you're a woman, it's just like, you can't just can't generate enough force for the most part unless you're like an unusually strong woman. Some women, like, you know, like, there's a few, like Holly home, like you don't want Holly home punching you in the face. Amanda Nunez will knock you out cold. 100 % even if you're a dude. But most women, they just don't have the power in their hands. But everyone has the power to carry your body around, right? So your legs are really strong. If a woman gets her a fucking legs locked around your neck and gets a triangle on you, you're a fucked.

2:57:11If she knows how to do jujitsu, like your legs are carrying, if you weigh 130 pounds in your woman, your legs are carrying a high of 30 pounds all day long and they don't get tired and they're strong. So all you have to do is like, whoop, whoop, lock that bitch in behind the knee, crack. And pull on the head and you're going to sleep. Good. She could have put me to sleep. I bet she could have. I've been fucking humiliating. There was a show that they used to have on Showtime with his dude who was, he has a porn star and he had a show on Showtime. And he had like a reality show. And in one of the episodes, he was going to do jujitsu with a woman.

2:57:50And so my friend Felicia, Felicia, oh, who's a black belt under Jean -Jacques Machado, she's a legit beast. And you know, she weighs 130 pounds, maybe, maybe 135, maybe. And she took the fuck out of this dude, like multiple times. I don't even think she was a black belt at the time. She was probably a brown belt. Maybe she was a black belt already. She was a black belt before me. But I used to train with her all the time. She's really, really good. And a dude who didn't know what he's doing, he's going at night night. Amazing how many dudes don't know what they're doing. Most people don't. Most people.

2:58:26It's too hard to learn. And you gotta get humiliated when you do learn. You know, you get fucking humiliated. It's a brutal wake up call when you get strangled. Like, and how easy it is for people to do it to you. You're so vulnerable when you're unconscious. Well, you're just so vulnerable when you do Jiu Jitsu again, someone who's good at it. Remember the first time I realized I was a white belt and I rolled with this kid who was a purple belt. And he was my size and he just mauled me. And I remember thinking, this is crazy. Like I can't believe I'm totally helpless. Like I thought I had this delusional idea.

2:58:58Like I'm not a fight. I'll fucking figure this out. This ain't that big a deal. It's not that much different from Taekwondo or kickbox. And I'm like, delusional. I got strangled over and over again by everybody. But there's one guy in particular. He just was murdering me. And I remember thinking, I gotta learn this. Like this is like really important to know. Like I didn't know how was that vulnerable. Have you gotten choked unconscious? No, never unconscious. I always tap. Oh, it's terrifying. It's terrifying. It's terrifying because you get that moment where you're like, I definitely sparked out a couple of times where I could see the door was closing.

2:59:35You have a second left before you go out, before you tap. And when someone's got like a really good rear naked choke, once it's locked in and they start to clamp down the pad like you got a fucking tap. You got a tap. Especially in training, like it's stupid to not tap because you could really get hurt. Especially if you get caught in an arm bar or worse is like a heel hook or a knee bar. Like you got a tap immediately. You can't take a chance with ripping your joint apart. It's not worth it. Fuck that. And I had a lot of injuries from not tapping in time. I had a bad Kamora injury on my elbow.

3:00:08My friend Brent caught me in a Kamora and I couldn't believe that he got it. I was like, because I usually get him. I was like, I am gonna get him. And then he got me. I'm like, oh my god, he got me. This motherfucker got me and I didn't want to tap. And I was trying to work my way out of it and work my way out of it. And eventually I had to tap and I was like, oh, I fucked my elbow up. And I couldn't do chin ups for like three months. Really? That was brutal. It was horrible. Every time I do a chin up, I was agony in my left elbow. Do you still roll? No. Is that because you got it? I want to again, but just like, I've had a few aggravating injuries.

3:00:39I had some sciatica, a wild back, like real stiffness at the back. But you know what's really changed that a lot is stretching. I've spent like an hour and a half every night just stretching. Really? Yeah, it's loosened everything up. And I realized like sometimes I go too hard and I don't give myself enough recovery. You know, I just push a little too far and then I ignore, like I had this back thing that was bothering me from archery and I just ignored it. And it was just a muscle thing, so I wasn't worried about it. Wait, where is it like right in the center of your back? Where's your right?

3:01:13No, no, my right on the side. It's on the side by the hips. So I know. I know, lower, lower. Right, so I know it's not worrying me like a spine thing. A spine thing's worrying me. But this was inflamed and I just kept shooting the bow. I just was like, shut up pussy. And I just, I pushed it to the point where it got kind of chronic. And it bothered me for a while. It's much, much better now. But I'm being real careful to get it to 100 % before I think about doing anything. Like right now I can kick the bag again. I can do pretty much everything again. But it's one of those things where I'm still getting better.

3:01:49When you say stretching, because like after we did the, I did so much working out. I had a masseuse come in and like kind of test my flexibility because I had some problems in my forearm. And my, my shoulder can't go, like I can't get it past this. And like this one goes way. Do you have an injury? I don't know. I have no fucking idea. I think I think it's no recovery and no stretching. I do no stretching. Benching's rough on the elbows or the shoulders, brother. Benching, benching can get rough, especially if you bench heavy. Especially when you watch, if you're seeing the dudes snap a fucking, I have seen that.

3:02:22That's all I was thinking about. It pops off and then you're fucked. You know Cody Rhodes? Cody Rhodes is the WWE Champion. He's a dusty Rhodes son. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, I fucking tell him I'm doing the bench press competition. And he goes, oh, I tore my packet 315. And I was like, that's the fucking bet. And he's like, oh, you don't even see it come. Look at his pack. Oh, Jesus Christ. It's he goes, it felt like Velcro. He just started. And he wrestled even though his pack was torn. He wrestled with an animal. What a fucking animal. He is a beast. Jesus Christ, that's crazy. Yeah, he did, we did go big show together.

3:02:59His dad was the best. And he is. Hell, let us sell with a torn pack. These guys are animals. Two. Well, you know, it's when you're young. Well, it's also like wrestling. It's like the culture. The pro wrestling culture. The culture is like, you're going to get battered. Like we're battering each other. It's just, what is? More so in the past, those guys really got fucked up. Oh, dude. You know, I've had a bunch of those guys in here. They tell me the stories. You know, Hulk Hogan and fucking Jake the snake. Like all these guys are animals, undertaker. And they all drank six packs after the show.

3:03:30Everyone was snorting coke. They're going from town to town, beating the fuck out of each other. How much better do you think anabolic steroids are than testosterone? For as far as like putting weight on and the last way better. Is it so much more noticeable? Oh, yeah. It's completely cheating. Have you ever done an anabolic steroids? Nothing serious. I've never done anything serious. I tried anavar once and I've done like some minor stuff. There was some stuff that I got that you used to be able to buy at the store. Used to buy it from GNC, like a vitamin store. And they eventually pulled it off the market.

3:04:06I forget what it was called. I forget what it's called, but it was pills and holy shit did this work. It was like legit steroids that you could buy at GNC. When I was in college, you could buy GHB at GNC. That's crazy. Yeah, because you would take a little capful before you went to sleep and it would burn fat while you slept. Well, apparently I was reading about this conspiracy about GHB and about how safe GHB is in small doses and how good it is for you with sleep and recovery. But the problem is people would dump it in people's drinks and then it was like a date rape drug. Because if you have a lot of it, you're out of it.

3:04:44You don't know what the fuck is going on. And so then it became the date rape drug and then it just got pulled from the market or at least very difficult to get. But yeah, I remember during those days when it was out, like bodybuilders would always talk about it. They were all taking GHB before they go to sleep. And they like has some, like Google with the conspiracy is about GHB but it has some profound effects on recovery. Like puts you in deep sleep. And apparently at the right doses, it's very safe. Really? Yeah, this doctor was explaining like what had led to it being demonized and like what the actual benefits of GHB are.

3:05:24Yeah, I remember taking it in college. You took it? Yeah, well, to party. Uh, first time I ever took it was on a rock and grease in the middle of the ocean, a rock in the middle of the ocean. You're the problem. Yeah. People like you. Buddy, it's my best funnest shit. Guys, I like, guys like, is like, I might wanna let it go next day. And I was like, sure. Liquid exes. That's what he called it. And I found out later was GHB. But we, he had like a little dropper, cap full. We all took a sip. All of a sudden you start blowing up a little bit. Used to do that. And there were like these other, these, the store pills that you'd get.

3:06:00You took enough of those, you'd fucking feel it. Do you remember they used to sell salvia? They used to sell salvia in like a head shop. Okay, they sell bongs. Yeah. Salvia was like a super potent psychedelic. Oh, I still have nightmares of Ari's salvia trip. Oh my God, we played it on the podcast form and he explained it to us that he had a whole life under the sea. He had a whole relationship under the, I think he went to another dimension. That's what I think. He said he was there for months. Had a whole life. GHB's mechanism of interaction has not been elucidated. It crosses the blood brain barrier where it interferes with dopamine levels in a complex, dose -dependent way.

3:06:38GHB's relief of the symptoms of narcolepsy has believed to be mediated via these dopamine, dopamine, energetic, dopamine, energetic effects. GHB facilitates deep slow wave sleep during which growth hormone release naturally increases. This may explain why higher levels of growth hormone have been detected after GHB administration. Yeah, that's why the bodybuilders would take it. There's a lot, well, this, this is Derek from More Plates, More Dates, was on the podcast and was explaining how making steroids illegal when they did that, they've stopped all the research and development that could have made those things very safe.

3:07:22So because they stopped doing any studies on them and they made them a banned substance, then everyone's just reliant upon the ones that are already in existence and no new ones have been developed. So all the steroids that people are taking are all steroids that have been developed a long, long time ago. And he said it stifled the innovation and the ability to make better safer ones. That, you know, the problem is the idea of cheating in athletics, right? And it is a real problem. You know, if someone's taking steroids, they have an advantage over people who don't take steroids. But if they could figure out a way to make them safe or they didn't completely fuck up your endocrine system, there should be an argument where if it makes you perform better but doesn't have a detrimental effect on you, then athletes should take it.

3:08:09But people don't like that idea because they don't want someone to have some massive advantage in any sort of a sport. But it also goes into society, the demonizing of anyone on a semi -glutide. Yeah. I mean, people get shit on. Like I joke that Tom's on, what's your, Ozanpeck all the time. I think he is, but whatever. Do you think he is? Oh, fuck yeah. Really? When did Tom, when did we ever know Tom to put in the hard work to lose the weight? But he's been really disciplined. Where does he go? Anyway, I'm joking. No, you're fucking around. I'm fucking around a little bit. A little bit, but not really.

3:08:43Not really, not really. I think he would do it, not tell you. I don't know. Really? His wife was interesting. Interesting. She got sick on it. She sold her diet. Brine Simpson. Brine Simpson got real sick. So did Bobby Leed. You see Bobby Leed threw up on a video. It's fucking hysterical. Yeah, folks, just carnivore diet. Just eat meat in eggs and you'll lose weight. I guarantee you, you will. You feel great too. But it is crazy how people, he was, this is when he was on a Sempic and they were trying to shoot a promo. And he kept going to Santino. I'll feel good. And he's like, shut up, Bobby.

3:09:10Let's just get it. So does he actually puke? Oh, yeah. Oh, boy.

3:09:19Oh, my God. Now I'm gagging. All right, Bert Crisch, let's wrap this bitch up. Joe, I love you to death. You're the best man. Hey, look at forward to hanging out with you while you're here. Permission to party world tour starts October 18th. I'm in Vegas this weekend. More importantly, my special lucky. Lucky available right now. Streaming right now on my Netflix. I hope you guys like it. Sure. It's a very, very, calm, well -esque, bar of you. Certain matching pants. Nice. Yeah, I really, really stepped it up a bit, Joe. I like it. I like the look. All right, brother. I love you to death. Thank you.

3:09:47Bye, everybody.