#2302 - Ron White

34:48I mean that you know you you hold a lot of power And you have something a lot of people fucking want and I know that because I have a I have a box of and I should have brought them and given them to you anyway I'll bring them to the club tonight, but it's just a guy I met. It owns a sunglasses company And he makes sunglasses for hunting any way and so he said wait a minute who wears sunglasses when they hunt I don't know Nobody uh You can't wear them when while I guess maybe some people probably do I bet rifle hunters do yeah He said that one of them were specifically for bow hunting That makes you see the target better or something interesting.

35:33Okay, so he's got an invention um I you know, I don't know I don't hunt so I don't really know anything about hunting in glasses He just said he's gonna send a box. Would you give him to Joe and I said yeah, I'll give him to him And I didn't so I would think that glasses were getting the way because you know when you shoot with a bow There's a thing called a peep sight so you have your string and in your string is uh What one of things is sewn into your strings is this little plastic circle? Sure. Do you know it is? Yeah Okay, so you know it lines up with the scope the housing of the bow No, I don't know that so with a peep sight is when you draw back and you you don't look through through the string You look to the circle that's on the string it's so it into the string and that circle you line it up exactly with your sight housing And so where your pin is it's all about like staying calm and keeping that pin there and you want to keep it all like Connected together.

36:27So my eyes like right there like right next to this this this this peep sight If I had glasses am I getting the way? You know, I mean like because the string is touching my nose and the thing is right there And I'm just drawing back and I'm looking at it like that right through I'll give them to you see what you think I don't know anybody of shoot, but I knew I know some hunters that have glasses So there must be a way to adjust I don't know but I don't know that's what you told me though. Okay. We'll try it out all right I'm open to anything you never know and anything that makes you good at that.

37:01There's that's a fucking difficult thing to do You know like I meet a guy and he's like I'm a bow hunter like oh, okay. Oh, I anyway what I'm saying is this Go ahead. I'm gonna say is this that That you're one of the only friends that I have that'll say No, that's fucked up, right You you you don't agree with me to make me feel better because you have something I have something you need right You know you'll go ahead and go This episode is brought to you by better help is the end of tax season and I know by now You all are probably sick of numbers, but there's one more expense we need to talk about and that's how much you're investing in your well -being The cost of traditional therapy can be outrageous between a hundred and two hundred and fifty dollars a month or even more So how do you get the help you need without blowing your monthly budget?

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39:17Oh really what okay, let me think about it You need that your life. You don't want to be a tyrant. No, you know, and that's what happens to a lot of successful people's They get real insecure and so they become kind of a tyrant and they don't want to listen to anybody else You know you see that with people that are like on shows that they run the show. It's the shows all about them You know, they're the show and they're you know, they're the producer and executive producer and the cast all kisses their ass And they're at the top of the fucking casting call or whatever it is fuck the call sheet Yeah, it's a bad place to be you don't want to be there.

39:53So don't do it. Don't do it You just you gotta resist the urge So I went back to My ayahuasca place Down in Costa Rica So I went four years ago, right and And that's when I quit drinking right would you know I did yeah, I quit drinking I quit too When a month ago, I knew that you weren't drinking. Yeah, I didn't know stop drinking. I didn't know that it was a Yeah, I think I'm done. Yeah Um for no reason other than it's not good for you. Yeah, no, I didn't have to I enjoyed it right No, you were having a good time. I was watching But the the days after Drinking we're just too rough and I'm like what what kind of a moron who takes so good care of his body is poison himself a couple of days a week for fun You know why am I doing that and then I'm like well, would I have the same amount of fun if I don't poison myself turns out yes exactly right Well, there's more than one way to skin a cat.

41:06I mean you haven't yeah, quit everything right? Exactly yeah, and I'm just skinning the cat a different way tell me about your cat. Well, I'm gonna play some eco rose Did they play those why you went through the Here we go. Jamie's got him already So what's that this is the songs that a lot of the shaman like to play while you're tripping balls Oh, okay, and if they play this song while you're under the influence The hallucination will dance to the songs Oh, wow, it's there's certain songs you like I don't get it like the grateful dead. I've never been on acid at a dead concert But they say if you are you get it So like I'm missing that part right, you know So to me, it's like it's just this jam music, which is fine, but I'd rather listen to skinnered You know that's all skinnered Monday or is Sunday night and There it was original skinned the real skinner before the plane crash.

42:02No, I'm just saying these guys are putting show together I'm sure Ricky Medlock playing Alan Collins is Uh, play they have two other guitar players and but it is a band. I mean, they are nailing this shit I had tears coming on my eyes during fucking free bird for a lot of reasons Number one, I saw him in 73 Me and Steve Cook who was my best friend all the day down and uh and Ronnie van Zant was light and joints And he was handing them out into the crowd Well me and Steven worked our way up to the front He handed one of them to me and everybody else was taking a hit I just stuck at my pocket and uh and went in the bathroom and smoked it because we're kind of it was illegal then And I was listening to skit well Sunday night I'm at the skinner show There's cops where I was and there was outhouses right next to it Whether you go through the fence And I told my girlfriend I'll be right back.

42:59I was over there That was in the outhouse smoking a joint listening to the skitter and I'm like well I haven't changed much in 50 fucking years, you know the exact same thing So Some some songs People just nail it and it stays great forever. Yeah, you never get tired of free bird But there's a car solo yeah, and they just fucking hammered it home. I mean it was so good. Oh nice That it was just I couldn't believe it, you know, I I brought him on stage at the Greek one time Maybe 20 years ago or 15 years ago. I don't know And it was fun because I got to I got to say the one You know when I was 16 years old we were at the skitter show and We're taking enough mushrooms to kill an average teenager, but we weren't average teenagers Ladies and gentlemen, Leonard Scattern.

43:50It was great fun And so it kind of brought back all those memories, you know But when then Washington played a game it's kind of Weird because especially when I come back from Rhythmia which is my place out there that I always come back emotional and And kind of fall of Love and forgiveness and those kinds of things that's quick. I learned from from those hallucinogens Yeah Isn't it crazy that that's illegal? Yeah to to feel good. You gotta go to another country to be a better person You gotta go to another cut you gotta leave the land of the free right leave the land of freedom to go To another country that's much more lawless and Taking the divine and come back a better person.

44:42It's in it's crazy And I always said and I don't think it's for everybody, you know, I'm not somebody after just going yeah, you gotta You gotta do this because I think you have to be open to some things. Yeah, you know You have to be open to hey, maybe I'm wrong about everything You know, maybe there is if you're not open to it, you'll get hit hard Well, and that's why it's not for everybody because I you know, I've seen people wig down there and And which is why I you know, I know you can get I wascae locally and have they have you know people that are I don't know where they got their shaman title from but You can do internet.

45:21Yeah But I know that they're you know, it's a licensed medical facility with doctors It's the only one in the world that's a licensed medical facility And it's And they're prepared when people wig, you know, they know what to do they know to hold you down Yeah, would they and they do too They'll fucking bind you up and wait till it to clear because they know that you're at a point in this that you're going through some heavy shit One of them was an NFL player last time I was there this guy was fucking huge place from Buffalo And and he just and I was like God if if you had to pick somebody to wig you would say please don't let it be that fucking dude Did he wig?

46:06Oh, no, he wig big time. Oh, no, and started just screaming get the fuck away from me Oh, no, which will you know that kind of Yeah, you got 70 people in this room that are tripping and so no what a what a bummer and it was and But they got big guys too. Oh, and So they just got him out of the room got him calm down. He didn't leave You know, he just he was going through some shit The first time I went there this girl from Japan Started kicking and screaming and they took her outside and they had to fucking subdue her But at the end of the day The person with the biggest smile on their face was her Because she worked through some shit that I can't even talk about that I happen to know what it was but any worth knowing and but She found pure fucking joy and peace in her life and you could see it in her face, you know And I was wondering why when she was wiggling out why does nobody flipping out been me because the people that worked there weren't flipping out at all Because they've seen it.

47:20Yeah, there's nothing they haven't seen There's been 18 ,000 people through that facility and so they've seen it all right and But they just know how they know how to handle it Well, I wonder if you're just in some mansion in Beverly Hills or whatever If there's somebody there that knows how to handle probably not probably not probably not So especially if you don't know what you're gonna get hit with yeah, and you need to be a in a really safe place Where people know how to guide you through it. Yeah, you know You know, it's not something I think you want to grab a handful of them go sit in the fucking closet You know and try to figure it out for yourself So that's the real weirdness of any kind of Psychedelic journey is that you're probably gonna be Going through some shit and someone could either manipulate you during that time or help you during that right?

48:11And there are people that will manipulate you Absolutely, but and that's why You know that's why I go to this place. That's not that easy to go to just because it's so safe You know, it's just it's set up perfectly for what they're trying to do and uh, and it was it was this guy's Dream to do that to make it accessible to regular people so back then when he opened up you had to go to a Corrigated 10 shack and Peru or wherever to get this stuff and he said I want to make a place that's safe to go and People feel comfortable and you know, so isn't it kind of crazy that that's illegal I mean, it's kind of the weirdest thing of all time that we haven't just as the society went Okay, why are all these people going to these places?

48:59Okay, when they come back do they have positive experiences? Does it help them? Yeah a lot of them Okay, why don't we do that here? It should be that simple should be that simple. It should be so simple Yeah, there was a guy there that was on a scholarship. They had for Basically wounded warriors That are going through heavy PTSD. There's an organization that's that's sending guys to Rhythmian and uh So and I got to talk to him a lot while he was there and he was a psychologist and but and he was He was fucked up and uh, but I kind of got to watch his transformation a little bit watch this guy's coming around And I'd seen that and I'd seen the transformation in myself Where I could just not be so angry and not be and not hold all this hate You know that that I that that takes so much energy to fucking control And to have them really show me a way to let all that stuff go you know to And to be a happier person You know that uh And it's hard to we I really don't understand I wasca so it's really hard to explain it to somebody else You know but uh but I don't think anybody really understands it.

50:15Yeah, right And I know there's some stuff that's stronger than that but I don't know what it's called what I began you mean? Is that what it is? I began is the one that people use for addiction um This is a place called beyond that's in Mexico that does that uh Rick Perry was telling us about that a lot of uh former governor Rick Perry's yeah part of that He really wants to bring um iBegaine to Texas and have treatments gambling here I think they can get iBegaine. I think especially with a Republican Like Rick Perry who's really concerned about the mental health of veterans Because I think that's where it really shines.

50:56I began in particular helps a lot of people Hebslo it gives you like a review of your life apparently. I've never experienced it But the people that have have very positive things to say about it and it's incredibly good at helping people get over addictions um It has a very high success rate for one treatment. I think it's in the 80 % And then for if you do two treatments is in the mid 90s. That's fucking amazing Yeah, people that never go back to the drugs never never go back to whatever it is gambling whatever you have whatever's wrong with you All you got to do is figure out what's wrong with you Yeah, you had to figure out why you're doing that like what is this pathway that I keep going down that sabotaging my whole life And why why can i not resist it?

51:41Why do I keep reaching for the bottle? What is it? Why do I keep snorting coke? What is it? What is it? Well that was the question I had with myself It's because I drank like a fool for years You don't say It was funny because I were whatever I I was single again and I was in the green room and I said maybe I'll start drinking again and everybody at one time went No No, I was just kidding. I was just kidding. Well you quit like that though. You did like you were gone. I did and but I but I went to to To to rid me with intention I wanted to know why I was doing this to myself and why I could not see a way to quit and it was so tied up in my persona my stage presence who I really was At the time and I'm like why is this all tied to me and why can't I shake it and and so With that I also went through hypnosis because I had to get sober before I went to Because that's not what their deal is.

52:51They're not a treatment facility It could be a byproduct of it, but they're like we are weren't we're not gonna We don't have detox here, you know So you have to quit some other way and and and once you've been sober for a month you can come down here Which is exactly what I did I came up with a way to do that through hypnosis which I thought was pretty effective and but I got sober once before and one of those rehabs in Malibu for 90 grand and I Which was at the time I was spiraling, you know, I was I was living in a five star hotel in Beverly Hills I was doing a bunch of blow. I was screw inexpensive hookers Which was exactly my life plan, you know, I'm like, okay, here it is And it ended up feeling pretty hollow, you know, and I ended up going there and And I stayed sober for about Maybe six months or something like that, but it was white knuckle the whole fucking time of You know, no fun, but when I when I did it the way I did it I when I checked into that facility I got the sweat night sweats so bad when I quit That I would they had two beds in the new people's things that I would soak the sheets and one of them and moved to the other bed And soak the sheets and that when I was detoxing big time never happened this time I never had a night sweat never regretted it never thought about it again never tempted Wow to drink again and and you know and I I own number one tequila still and and it's there at the green room Every night and I'm not even it doesn't even bother me a bit.

54:37That's interesting And that's what the big fear a lot of people have is how wise still be around bars right And you know, and yeah, is it a little awkward at first Yes, and do I hang out in bars all the time other than our club Uh, no, I don't I mean I'll go listen to music if there's something but just to go to a bar and hang out I just don't do it right and For whatever reason. Well, it's not that much fun being around drunks on your shoulders No, it's really not I do you have to be in the vibe of the drunks. Yeah appreciate drunk talk Yeah, when you're sober and someone's drunk and they're telling you some fucking story about their boss being a douchebag It's like Whoa right so and I also have a tendency A natural tendency to just kind of isolate Anyway, you know, and so I really That's one of the things I love about the club is it gets me out of the house It gives me to go down there where my friends are and do what I do for a living and what I do for a living and what I do for fun both I think a lot of people have that problem that isolation problem, you know, yeah, yeah because I think that I think that people like you and I I think A lot is a lot gets dumped on us, you know Because I'm the of all the friends that I know that I've known for a long while.

56:01I'm the only one That has that's been very successful Not out of my comic friends, but out of my regular friends and and it seems like I get Just I have to take in a lot of stuff and I never knew how to get rid of it So I would just get to the point where I was full and I couldn't take anymore and that's when I would isolate myself Right too many people want something too too many people want something That's why I If gravitate towards you is because I know you don't want jack shit from me except for me to be your buddy and Let us be brothers in comedy and whatever so in life This episode is brought to you by Farmer's dog It doesn't matter how old your dog is it's always a great time to start investing in their health and happiness and thankfully The Farmer's dog makes it easier than ever to feed your dog a healthy diet of real meat and veggies Dogs prefer their food even picky dogs and owners prefer their service if you have a question about your dog your plan your delivery or anything else They have 24 seven customer service that connects you to real humans who are genuinely interested in providing the best experience possible for you and your dog They give you detailed instructions on how to transition your dog to fresh food and even Pre -portion it for your dog specific needs feeding your dog healthy human grade food shouldn't be complicated and with the Farmer's dog It isn't the entire experience from box to bowl is a breeze So try the Farmer's dog today and give healthy Freshly made food a try you can get 50 % off your first box of food plus free shipping Just go to the Farmer's dog dot com slash rogan tap the banner or visit this episodes page to learn more offer available for new customers only This episode is brought to you by Squarespace Have you ever been shopping online and the website just Gave you the egg Let me tell you that wouldn't happen if they used Squarespace Squarespace design intelligence empowers anyone to build beautiful more personalized websites Tailored to your unique needs and with Squarespace payments It's super easy to manage payments with just a few clicks Plus with squarespace's integrated and optimized SEO tools There's all the help you need to get people to your site head to squarespace dot com slash Emma for a free trial And use code Emma to save 10 % on your first purchase and life and so you know, so That's really good for me even today, you know, that's what gets me out of the house sometimes Yeah, oh me too, and I mean I love being home.

58:41I love being home with my family hanging out, but My comedy family I love being around too, and that's what I feel like I feel like when especially when comics are in town That I don't get to see that often. Oh, it's really shit. Oh, we all hang out together. It's beautiful Who are those two actors that were at the club the other day? They were so much fun to have them in there those It was which night fuck. I don't know we we get a lot of vistas When when what he was there No Oh, well, I'm not a red Cooper. Yeah, but Cooper and Well, it was fun to have him in the green room because you know We we all we're all around each other all the time.

59:21So it's fun to have a new people in there with the stories We've never heard. Oh, yeah, it was it was cool as shit, you know, just to have him hanging out, you know good guys, you know What he was there you weren't here when what he was no oh my god. He was so much fun He's so fun. Did he do your show? No, I just yeah, he did my show and but then this that was nights before that and he just wanted to come to the club He's been to the club a couple of times now Haroldson yeah Oh, I didn't know that yeah, he's just been hanging out. Fuck. I always wanted to meet that. Oh, he's so nice We just all hung out in the green room and he was just like one of the boys It was so easy.

59:59How fucking cool is that so cool? So he's so easy to talk to so like and talks to everybody the same way. He's like so easy He's just a genuine dude. He don't even have a phone. You can't even get a hold of him really Yeah, you know, I have a phone doesn't have even doesn't do email fuck you Oh shit, like a guy an assistant that handled everything Yeah, it's probably a freeing thing, you know, just just be just stop just stop Leave me alone right, you know, well, I don't answer emails anyways But it's also like let me know what I actually let me think about what I think about things instead of being Inundated by all these other people's thoughts constantly all day long Which is valuable it's good to get other people's Perspectives on things I think it enriches you but a certain point time become become captive to it I think there's just too many people that are captive to other people's thoughts I think so too.

1:00:50That's why I'm so close minded I And I really am I'm truly close minded and I think you're open minded in that try to be and and I and I struggle with that because Just letting people pour information into my head. Yeah, you know, I just I just tend to avoid it I am engaged You know in that I do follow things closely and not the stock market, but everything else That's been a little Follow this stock market right now. It's so baffling It's so crazy like what is going on like the whole world's mad at us Trump's playing golf and in between Swings he's on the phone with presidents of countries Need more money.

1:01:35Yeah, that's what somebody told me the other day like is he playing jackers? Is he playing jazz? He's playing golf He's playing golf like what does that mean everybody wants to think there's some like grand plan to it Well, they think the grand plan is look You know, we remember back when um The was it the 92 elections when Ross Pro was in hmm. So when Ross Pro laid out what happened Do you remember during that debate or Ross Pro laid out what happened with the tariffs? So that like they when we try to sell stuff over there we get it a high tariff It's like a 35 % tariff, but they don't get tariffs when it comes over here.

1:02:17It's not the same It's not like you know you guys there's a tax on everybody if you want to sell your goods to encourage people to buy American products If you want to sell your products in America, we get a tax that tax goes to the fucking grid or whatever they hold their fix and with it Right Ross Pro was laying it out like this is how all the jobs went to Mexico because have you ever seen that Jamie? It's it's see if you could find it. It's a great speech because Ross we talked about the giant sucking sound. Yes, you actually mentioned that earlier and the podcast talking about yes That's it.

1:02:49That's funny. Did you see that recently or something? No, I just remember it. Oh boy the giant So he would have been a great president. He just voted for him. He had big ears, you know He didn't come across all on TV. He was an independent And nobody was voting for independent by the way they changed the whole way Debates work after this because it used to be if you got 5 % of the vote in the primary that you could be a part of the presidential debates And uh, that's not the case anymore. Or was 5 % in a poll I forget what the number was that you had to reach But it wasn't a high threshold and then you could be a part of the debate and they changed the shit out of that after this because Ross Pro tanked They thought HW was gonna go for a second term right and meanwhile Ross Pro Fucked it up because a lot of people that would have voted for Bush voted for Ross and the people that were already gonna vote for Clinton voted for Clinton Clinton won but we'll play this team And you can move your factory south to the border pay a dollar an hour for labor.

1:03:47How are you on 25? That's assume you've been in business for a long time. You've got a mature work for it Pay a dollar an hour for your labor Have no health care. That's the most expensive single element making a car Have no environmental controls no pollution controls and no retirement And you don't care about anything but making money There will be a giant sucking sound There it is right there The people send me to watch in the first thing I'll do is study that 2000 page agreement and make sure it's a two -way street I one last point here. I've called I was excited. I was dumb and didn't understand it So I called a who's who the folks have been around it And I said well, I want everybody go south.

1:04:27They said we'll be disrupted. I said for how long? I finally got them up for 12 -15 years and I said well, how does it stop being disruptive? And that is when their jobs come up from a dollar now to six dollars now and I just go down to six dollars now Then it's leveled again, but in the meantime you've wrecked the country with these kinds of deals Jesus Christ. He was right. He was right. He was right. Yeah. That's exactly what happened American manufacturing collapsed Yeah, and they did it all for money and they did it all because they were greedy. They were already rich Right, and if we had just gotten those motherfuckers from ayahuasca Jesus Christ.

1:04:59They just smooth the fuck out. They would have said oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Let's be nice Let's make America great again. I don't understand the trade war with with Canada because if you ever Met a Canadian that had 35 dollars in his pocket. No They're all broke. They have $22. That's really and they'll buy you a beer You know, I love Canadians. I've always yeah, they're pro. How many money up there? Come in. I have any money because Because it's socialism, you know, they just they they I think it's a great place. Don't you love Canada? I love it Well, they have socialized medicine, but it's not it's a capitalist society It is but socialized medicine.

1:05:36Yeah, it's expensive. So they would how much what percentage of the Canadians paying taxes So I don't know. Let's find that out. What is uh? What's the Canadian tax rate? I know it's higher than Americans I know mines are bitch and when you go over there you have to pay taxes too like if you do a gig Up. Yeah, you have to pay tax. Yeah, you pay Canadian taxes on you get paid in Canadian dollars I'm not going up there much for shows Yeah, but you know So here it is Canadian Canada's top federal income tax rate is 33 % Well, the US is 37 % right however when combining federal provincial state taxes Canadians often face higher marginal rates across various income levels That's interesting that there's only 33 % ours is 37 I thought ours was Lower than theirs.

1:06:23I thought ours was 40 Well, it is when you get to a certain tax bracket correct Isn't it? ours changes when you get high that does 33 % on the portion over $246 ,000 or what's a what's ours in terms of like the highest tax bracket What's the highest US to is it 37 that's what it is? You What's really crazy to me is when people say the rich should pay more taxes. Okay fine But where do you think that's going Where's that going? Where is the money going is the money's going to the federal government? Do you think they're good at it? Do you think they're good at managing your money if you pay attention all the shit Elon's fucking uncovered?

1:07:0837 % is when you make over $609 ,000 here. That's you month of fucker Well, that's that's me last month This is the thing it's like Um, I'm happy to pay tax if I thought that they were doing a great job But it's just you are being strong armed in giving money to people that do a really shitty job of protecting your money and and And investing it in the country It's a lot of it's going to bureaucracy and bullshit And a bunch of things that you don't have any saying If you could like hop out of it if you could like Imagine if you like pick what you you know if you had like a whole tax sheet Would you like your money to go to would you like your money to go to overthrowing governments?

1:07:56No Like what if the federal government's budget was entirely based on the will of the people like you get to choose Like how much of your money you want to put into drone strikes in Yemen? I say is I don't want zero of my money going to that you know how many how much money do you want to go to this? So that or clean water. Okay clean water sounds good. You know how much infrastructure if I can fix the streets Well, I'm kind of I agree with you And I've just heard you say this that You know that everybody should have access to health care and education 100 % and the whole country the whole country Everybody that that would rise us all up 100 % less losers.

1:08:37Yeah, that's how you make America great less losers Less people that are saddled down with a lifetime of debt because they broke their leg That's crazy. Yeah, all my you know all my sons Friends are all saddled with 90 ,000 dollars worth of fucking student loan debts And subsidized and my son was lucky enough to that I had enough money to pay for his you know and And so he doesn't have that burden, but god damn it nobody should have that burden if for an agent America's beverage companies are investing in America We're American companies making American products with American workers in America's hometowns We're local bottlers and manufacturers operating in all 50 states employing more than 275 ,000 Americans in good paying jobs Delivering for the nation because we believe in the promise of America and the people who make it great learn more We deliver for America dot work paid for by the American beverage association This episode is brought to you by simply safe.

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1:11:43I can't imagine. I mean, I don't see how people do it. I mean, I really don't only do it Oh boy the total cost of attendance include Including fees housing and food reaching around $82 ,000 undergraduate tuition is $56 ,550 for a year. That's a lot of money man Oh, that's one year Oh, and if you drop out after one year then then you have nothing and you're down 80 grand But if you make it through those four years now you're 200 grand in the whole That you oh and then you have to get a job and then you get a job that pays 50 and you're like what yeah Oh my god Right, I'll never pay this off and then you have a it took throw a couple of kids on top of that and yeah You know something wild there's people out there their social security is getting docked because they owe student loans So they take money out of your social security to pay for your student loans because the student loans is the one thing You can never escape bank crop to it which is so crazy.

1:12:46It's cruel It doesn't make any sense. You're saddling an 18 -year -old with the burden of a lifetime Ha Harvard were off of free tuition for families earning $200 ,000 or less a year. Oh, that's great to who That's a new thing to who You can't even get into Harvard right, but it's still good We'll be free for students families earning $200 ,000 or less a year college announced Monday Harvard's long sought to open our doors to the most talented students to amount of their financial circumstances That's great. Yeah, it is. That's great. I just don't know if it's necessary I think it's probably necessary for kids to go to school just to like a passage right of passage, you know Like I think ceremonies and rights of passages are missing in our society.

1:13:31Yeah, and especially I could speak for young men. They don't know when they're a man like am I man yet? Am I man? Their dad's still yelling at them. Right. I mean, it's like when am I when oh my man? When am I an equal when am I you know, we don't have a ceremony, you know, in other tribal societies and all throughout history People have had rituals rights of passage rituals where people feel like okay, we fucking made it, you know I give a black belt ceremony. You got your black belt. All right. I made it, you know, I'm in but You know that's so I think there's a benefit in that society But then you got to like unlearn all this shit.

1:14:12You're fucking crazy professors are telling you You go to college. Yes. I went to UMass Boston Oh, wow, it's good school. Yeah, right easy to get into I only went because I didn't want people thinking I was a loser Well, the silly reason why I went I just wasted my time there. I went for three years Just wasting my time taking class so I could tell people I was going to college. Oh, I didn't waste any time I got kicked out of high school in 10th grade so You know My mind is an open book there. There's a lot of the pages aren't filled in and I you know what and I always Kind of I regret I regret that a little bit, you know that that I didn't go to college that I didn't tell you regret about it well just You know Well, I number one.

1:15:06I think I'd be smarter I don't know what it is and I am and I've made it just fine with what I've had, you know and You know, I've got attention deficit disorder and all these things They really kept me from doing traditional school work very well I'm not even sure that's real attention deficit disorder. Yeah, I don't think it's real. You don't know let me change your mind I think there's a lot of people that aren't interested in a lot of things But when they're interested when I when they say attention deficit disorder Why those guys so good at video games like why are they so good at things that aren't school?

1:15:40I think it's just you I think the human I think we could categorize it into a bunch of different like Disorders and problems and but I think a lot of that is a way to get you hooked on some sort of pharmaceutical drug It's gonna fix whatever problem you have that doesn't allow you to sit in class And listen some boring shit for fucking six hours. All right, you got no problem writing jokes Ron white You got no problem performing like it's not like there's not a thing that you can't excel at that you you can pay attention We don't know I don't know about that. I think stand -up comedy Was the answer to every problem I had no you're just because that's what I was good at you're a comic You are a comic like that's who you what you're supposed to do but let me give you an example That's my point is that there's a lot of different like Functions in society.

1:16:28There's a lot of different roles in society. I think they probably tagged ADD To people that don't have it But I know that I still have it so if let's say that I was gonna put together a ceiling fan and hang it in my roof which I'm not Uh I could no more do that than the man in the moon Without an ad -roll if I take that at all I'll read the directions. I'll put the whole thing together and hang it on no problem without it I bet you could do it without it dare at it. I've tried you just skip your board You need excitement You just use certain type of dude who needs a certain type of stimulation You know, which is why you like the high -wire act of performing live I don't think it's a disorder.

1:17:17I think it's a superpower. Ah I did well. I like the sound of that. I do. I think the ability the inability to pay attention to shit It's not interesting. It's not a disorder Which is you know what's interesting and what's not You know to this delight maybe I have it too because this day when I'm talking to someone they're saying something really boring I call I want to run away right you don't you don't hear a word that's coming up And I just can't it's like I just want to have the same way I can't listen to it. I don't think I have a disorder because of them talking to you. I got no problem at all Well, let's let's get two ceiling fans out here Yeah, I'm I'm sure I'm not that good at putting together a ceiling fan either I wouldn't enjoy it, but I could do it You just follow the directions like you could follow directions It's not hard.

1:18:06It's just you wouldn't enjoy it But if there was something that you enjoyed doing like learning how to swing a golf club better Yeah, you could pay attention. I do pay attention to that. That's all I'm saying I think there's roles in this world There's just in and different personalities fit perfectly into mathematics different personalities put fit perfectly in philosophy different Engineering different personalities. It's like you just got to find out what would vibes with the way you think and we all think differently We all have different backgrounds. We all have different biology You know, you just got to find what is the thing that like syncs up with the way your mind works and the problem with traditional education is There it was designed by the Rockefeller family like the school system in this country was designed to create better factory workers Right and and soldiers and to get them real early That's where they want to start yet five because they figured out when you start people at 12 or 13 They already got their ideas and what the world is and how the world works and I'm not fucking shooting somebody for you You know, so what they do is they get you in your five and when you're five They can kind of indoctrinate you separate you from your parents most of the day while your parents are at work And so that's like most of your day You have other people other than your parents telling you how the world is how the world works What's happening in you know and your life and what you should be doing And that's kind of crazy because a lot of those people suck I remember thinking that when I was a kid like thinking that how strange it is that people that I don't respect and I don't enjoy Are the ones that are in control of communicating to me most of the day I remember very clearly thinking that when I was a little kid like 10 11 years old.

1:19:47Yeah, you know, I know that when when I was a kid I used to have this This history teacher Who was also a PE coach Now he had something is intriguing as history To teach me But I could not listen to him Talk so he couldn't even make American history interesting But a good teacher could have done it. Yes a good teacher could have roped me in yeah to what was going on in the story of it And how it affects my life in the lives of my parents and my grandparents How it all went down, you know, you know you that's an interesting story But if you're a dull fucking assistant coach basketball and now you got to fucking one period of history And you have a monotone voice and I'm just Out of it I imagine what it would have been like to have access to wonderful educators Right, but if you were listening like you ever listen to Dan Carlin's podcast no he's got this podcast called hardcore history It's incredible incredible.

1:20:49It's amazing. It's such a good podcast and this guy will like lay out The events of World War one in a way that you you'll hang on every word and you'll park your car Like if you got to go somewhere you'll keep your car running because you just want to listen to where this is going Wow, yeah, but so if a guy like that was teaching you history that would have been great I mean, I think I would have been engaged probably would have been a historian. Yeah, make it nothing Yeah, I mean, but this he's Dan Carlin's doing well But that's um Someone who loves what they do and that's the difference school is this weird indoctrination fucking ritual that we all have to go through and then we all have to feel real bad about ourselves because we don't want to be there And we're not doing good at it.

1:21:37I felt like a fucking complete loser in school I never felt like I was that I was supposed to be there I never felt like I was smart You know, but I remember like Like finally when I realized that I was never like what I was going to school for three years when I went to college for three years When I finally was like what am I doing? I guess I'm doing this is just wasting time because that's all I was doing It's just completely wasting time. It was like a huge weight lifted off my shoulders. Okay, just go ahead This is not for me. Well the one thing is I didn't waste that time You know But you know, I think I'd have a better understanding of how the world works if I understood world history You know, they I mean those kinds of things I you know, I just wish I was you know I wish I had an education I but what would I do with it?

1:22:36I have no idea. I'd still do stand up. So yeah Well, hopefully and I wouldn't be any fucking fun. I just imagine if you did imagine he did go down a different road that would have sucked I know I was before I started doing stand up. I was a wind of salesman and and I was broke and I had nothing and I was unimpressive and My in -laws bought us a garage door opener So I had a garage door opener now you're gonna think this is really fucking weird I Used to wear that garage door opener on my belt so people would think I had a beeper I just ain't get clip it right there on my People know about the beep Yeah, yeah, I'm not a people listening right now like I have no idea what that is Ron and I have been through all the various stages of technological inter wizardry Yeah, but the inter twining of our in our lives the way You know the the first thing was the beeper like you would get a beeper like my friend Johnny had one You could page people you could page him and he would call the number.

1:23:50Yeah, hey, what's up? You're stopping a phone booth now that what a phone booth is and you have to like put quarters in the phone But and look at the beeper and yeah Hey, what's up? Hey, what's going on where yet and you never conversation with someone that's how you get a hold of them You have to page them right yeah, Joey Diaz had a page of forever Joey Diaz had a page or deep into the like maybe the 2000s Wow, not kidding. Yeah, definitely in the 90s he had a pager because I remember sometimes he would go a wall And you I'd be paged and I'm like where are you like one time we were doing a gig in Jersey We're doing rascals in East Orange and he fucking never showed up And I finally got a hold of on the phone is like I'm not gonna lie to your dog.

1:24:35I never left Vegas Damn it Joey I'll never forget that conversation never left Vegas. I'm not gonna lie to your dog. I never left Vegas It was just having a good time But that's how you got a hold of him you'd have to page him That was it and then when you got then one day he got a phone and when he got a phone you better not fucking text him If you text him he'll yell at you like Brian red ban you said text him you go, stop fucking text him me And then Joey eventually got an iPhone and Brian got a text from him one day. I'm like oh he's texting He's like you fucking texted me Now we'll text you But he doesn't like to text how he's doing.

1:25:16He's good. Yeah, he's coming down soon. He's gonna be here in a couple weeks good Good he um, he's coming to come in real soon right when it's here two weeks. Okay. Yeah Um He would uh, he only wants to talk to you on the phone. I go why why don't you like talking to people? He goes He goes amidst a cure. I want to hear your voice. I want to tell you I love you. Yeah. I'm like okay I get it. I get it. He's old school. Yeah, he calls me ever wasn't Yeah, I just say hello. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's like this episode is brought to you by visible I want to let you in on something your current wireless Carrier does not want you to know about visible because visible is the ultimate wireless hack No confusing plans with surprise fees no nonsense just fast speeds great coverage Without the premium cost with visible you get one line wireless with unlimited data powered by Verizon's network for $25 a month taxes and fees included seriously $25 a month flat What you see is what you pay no hidden fees on top of that ready to see Join now and unlock unlimited data for just $25 a month on the visible plan Don't think wireless can be so transparent.

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1:27:52Treat me a Joey Other than I'll ask him like he's April 22nd. Good. Yeah, we're good. Okay. See you then So is he could just come down to do sets and he's coming down to do sets um He's getting ready. He's gonna do a special So he's uh is doing a bunch of shows. He's got a residency. I think he's doing it in Philly is he doing it Philly We'll find out when he gets here when he's doing a residency He's done a few of these residencies where it shows up like every weekend. He has shows places people love him He did he opened up for Tom and master square garden Tom said when he went on stage they just went fucking ape shit.

1:28:26Oh, how cool is that they went ape shit because they didn't know he was coming You know, and then also in ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Joey Diaz. They're He's got the snuff of love. I guess he's a mystical creature right he is He is there's nothing like him nothing like him completely unique human being, you know It was fun to watch him just stomp the fuck out of the fucking room at the store man He just beat the shit out of those crowds. Oh shit. Yeah, those crowds Some of the sets that I've seen him have in the OR would I think I think it's the funniest thing I've ever seen in my life I've seen everybody.

1:29:06I've seen everyone great great great comedian. So I love to death I'll and I'll watch them every time they perform but I think Joey hit RPMs that nobody hit He hit these moments. Oh, I saw him wind him up man. Just wind him up It's like when people say like who's the funniest guy ever. I'm like come man. I don't you know This guy's with great insight like Patrice had great insight He was really hilarious, but he also had like great insight. Joey Diaz You ain't getting no insight out of Joey Diaz He's giving you he's rock him sock him robots He did a fuck that crowd up He he's to have this bit about Terry Cruz like and Terry Cruz Accused some guy of grabbing his dick, you know, and he had this bit about Terry Cruz in an underwear commercial Oh my god, it was so funny You you'd be in the back of the room just barely breathe you couldn't breathe Everyone like I was looking around the wherever people are falling out of their chairs Like they couldn't handle it And he was on fire just purple fucking red in the face screaming and yelling.

1:30:20Yeah. Oh my god. Oh my god Oh my god. That's just some of the first sets. I saw you do with at the store And when you were doing a bit where you were standing on top of the stool Yeah, yeah, fucking I just remember just just house just dick slapped those fucking crowds. Oh my god damn. He's good at this fuck It's a fun job, bro. It is the funnest job. We're so lucky We're so lucky in so many ways Just it doesn't make sense That's when I think about a life without stand -up. It makes me nervous to even think about what we almost did it right yeah I mean when we all went through that with COVID.

1:31:03I mean you were basically saying you're done. I thought it was done Yeah, I didn't like it anymore. It was I would halfway through every set. I was couldn't wait for it to be over Wow And and now I go on stage and I have this whole new gratitude for these crowds You know that are still there waiting bigger than ever. It's my show sell out faster than they ever have Then I mean uh And part of it is just because there's less of them I guess But also it's because of my friends You know the word gets out. You know you guys didn't let me die Yeah Yeah, we knew I mean I tell everybody but it's true like you're one of the reasons why we decided to buy a club Because uh you grab because you grabbed me when you got off stage that first time you had been on stage like eight months And you grabbed me by the shows of whatever the fuck we have to do.

1:31:59We're gonna keep doing there. Yeah, and we did I'll never forget that moment. I was like okay, we're gonna do it because you're gonna get that fucking club open like we're gonna do it I was already thinking about doing it very seriously because I realized like early on coming here It's like we need a place. We can't just be working out of these rocking roll clubs They're not set up right. No, you know, no, there's a difference. I don't even like to do I mean like to do sets other places. I don't either that's really what's wrong with the with the mothership It'll spoil your fucking ass You know with great crowds and perfect acoustics and an amazing sound system and And uh, you know just and then when you move over to another room which I rarely do Do another set in town.

1:32:46I did one the other a couple months ago and I was like this If you guys want to find me, I'll be down to the mothership and uh But yeah, we did it Ron. Yeah, we actually did it. You know, it's so interesting Then you look back at those conversations we used to have like we're in the Vulcan hanging out in the green room Talking about what the club's gonna be like. Yeah, I seem like a pipe dream I know a lot of people probably did think it was fake. There's a lot of people in LA like Tony used to talk to them all time Yeah, when's Joe open in that club Clubs never gonna open. It's all bullshit. You guys moved down there for no fucking reason Because the thing about you taking it making a choice.

1:33:26That's a scar Yeah, if the thing about uh, you making a choice to go and you know start something up and the people that are left behind They kind of want you to fail especially the haters right they want you to so Tony was like encountering that all the time These people that just for whatever reason they don't want other people to They don't have people to escape the bomb that they're in, you know It's like people from the neighborhood that don't want you to leave and when you do leave. Oh look who's back right People For whatever reason people really like when people fail You know, it's a gross feeling it's a gross thing, but it's super super common Look at for a joint.

1:34:13Yeah, Jesus Christ wrong point. Don't you know where in Texas? You know That's the first thing they got to fix is make this shit legal in the whole country It's so crazy that what's stopping him. Oh, I don't know. I don't understand it I mean, it's a political beach ball It's one of those things just gets tossed around that I think is good for The establishment that runs the country. It's good to keep it up in the air like I'll promise when I get it office Gays will be able to marry All right, and then they're talking about there's people that want to take that off the table, you know It's like there's a bunch of those things like Roe v Wade.

1:34:55That was a big one There's a bunch of these cultural beach balls that are very important issues to some people And they get exploited by politicians as a way to Promise you this and promise you that but sure, but it never Nothing ever gets fixed. Nothing ever changes, right? I was changing a little you know, I didn't think marijuana would ever be legal in Oklahoma I thought they'd be behind us, you know, but where do you go there now? It's billboards on every fucking street corner come get your weed You know new Mexico just authorized psilocybin therapy Really? Yep people with depression. I think depression and anxiety Is that what it's for that whether they're using it Those terms which apply to sure basically everybody right everybody everybody's had some depression and some anxiety There you go now you can get some mushrooms and figure your life out.

1:35:48Oh, maybe I'll give it a try Yeah, it's just the problem is federally. It's still not legal and that which is it's so dumb It's so dumb, you know, and I don't think it's gonna change Unfortunately, I don't think I think Trump is too busy with all these other issues. I don't think he's interested in that So co -sponsor Said here goes the bill would establish an advisory board treatment equity fund and research fund as well as remove psilocybin from the control substances act to provide to protect Qualified and registered patients clinicians and producers according to a news release jointly a news release Released jointly by the office of the Senate and the House Democrats if Pat So this is what the Democrats have over the Republicans Freedom to explore your consciousness Republicans for whatever reason.

1:36:41Yeah, they shy away from that um, it doesn't fit with their conservative mindset of What you should and used to be it didn't fit the freedom of speech didn't fit with their their Mindset and now the Republicans are all about freedom of speech because they realize the consequences of it during the last election cycle You know When things get censored and when you have a town square that's curated by Not just the big tech companies, but also by the federal government itself They can get weird when you're trying to access the truth you want to know what is actually going on When certain stories have actually been suppressed for the news because the federal government deems them misinformation Even if they turn out to be true That's not good and so for because of that The right is supporting freedom of speech which I think is fucking great.

1:37:35That's great. That's what we all should be supporting but we all should should be supporting the freedom To expand your consciousness and people have been doing it in certain ways for thousands and thousands of years And you don't know better if you haven't done it If you haven't done it yourself in your past judgment on people that have you're not qualified If you if you want to go you know do a psilocybin session like a heavy what Terrence would kind of would call a heroic dose you want to do that and then talk shit, okay But until that Because the thing is like It would preclude you from doing the things that you're doing Know this okay if you are a fucking rampant capitalist and all you give a fuck is About is your hedge fund and all you give a fuck about is the stock market and numbers and Buying this exclusive that and that exclusive this and getting tickets to this exclusive thing And all you're about is like status and numbers It will fuck that up.

1:38:38It will fuck that whole thing sideways. You won't be able to take any of that seriously anymore But that's good. That's good for you. You're not supposed to be taking that seriously if you've got Half a billion dollars and you're still scrambling to try to make more money like Pause your 67 years old. You're gonna die if you're lucky in 30 years if you're so lucky to hit 97 30 years happens so quick man. Oh, we've been here for five Ron. I know We've been here for you were here for six. Yeah, you were here. You were patient zero I always say you were patient zero in the the Austin invasion Because I remember calling you It was a 2018 when you moved here 17 at the 17 I remember calling you going what are you doing down there like we miss you at the store?

1:39:26Oh, I fucking love it down here Middle of the country for a fly Everywhere real quick people are nice foods great. I was like fuck can I live in Texas? I started thinking about it then But then when the pandemic hit and I knew you were here and then I had some friends in LA that were also Real sketched out by all of it. They all wound up moving Somewhere else a couple of them move well two families that was real good friends with they moved to Dallas and Then another good family family friend moved to Vegas and then another one just decided to stay and we all came out here together You know groups of friends and when we were looking around Austin.

1:40:05I was like fuck Ron white lips here. I could live here That was like one of the first things I thought I thought of Ron lives here at least have Ron. Yeah, I got a friend. Yeah And I was like okay, I can't do stand up right now anyway But then as soon as I move Tony's like fuck it. I'm moving. I was like you're moving to and then cigar is like I'm in I was like holy shit And then Brian Simpson came out real early and I didn't really know Brian Well at all Until Tom introduced me to him Tom was like dude you got to meet this guy so funny He has to be so funny so he was here early too And then a son and Derek both moved out here early.

1:40:41I'm like oh shit We got something going on and then Tim Dylan bought a house out here. I was like oh my goodness. What is happening? This is crazy and then Duncan was like man fucking North Carolina. I don't know Texas fucker and then I was like dunk it's out here. Yeah holy shit Holy shit. This is crazy. I'm like all right. We're up and running and by the time we decided to make that club We had like 10 great guys live in here. Yeah 12 and more we're coming And they're still coming. Yeah Dylan, Tony, there's so many different guys from the store that used to work at the store all the time Yeah, I wrote Tony in man.

1:41:18I I'm like I we need Tony here. I'm giving my fucking condo and let him use one of my range rovers to go out to Dallas Yeah, live here for a week. I don't know where I was but uh, yeah, you spend the week here. You'll go. Yeah, this is doable Well, we all were so excited because it felt like we were doing something different. Yeah, you know Felik we're doing something different. I've always had this fuck it Part of me or was like fuck it. Let's go. I'm Me you do you do you're in petuous as fuck. I like it The time I you told me you were gonna I'm gonna move there. You had a house like two days later Damn this guy moves when he moves.

1:41:58Yeah It was my kids helped a lot because they really wanted to move Sweet ass place on the lake. Yeah, that's good living over there. It's all So like when we came here no one had masks on and everybody was acted normal. Yeah, and some of my kids were like what's going on? Like why how come everyone's normal here? We should live here, you know, and then It's just It just happened and then all of a sudden the stores closed so I could get all the employees And then I was like look I'll pay you now. You don't have to work. Just hang out. Yeah Let's let's we're gonna do something special. That was more money than you were thinking It was but it Money is fun coupons.

1:42:40Yeah fun take a sense. That's right That's what it's supposed to be if you're not having not having fun and you have money You're doing something wrong Because you should be trying to have fun and sometimes some things You have to pay for in order to have fun a lot of fun is free But there's a lot of fun where you go like oh, we got to buy a building We have to hire an architect. We have to pay construction crew We have to you know, we have to do a lot of things But that's the way to do it. That's what you're supposed to do and that I was the person who was able to do it Because the the universe had decided that this thing wanted to get made and we hit every green light And then I was like okay, well clearly this is the thing I'm supposed to do It's you know, I know it sounds crazy, but let's go, you know But I the whole thing was crazy like is in the middle of the biggest deal I'd ever done ever in my whole life The Spotify this crazy thing was like I was the show was already like the number one is that feel like it was not that fucking deal in bananas bananas, but I was also like okay, well what should you know?

1:43:45You have to figure out what you're gonna do like you have to be You can't be at the whim of all these other people's ideas and expectations like what do you want to do? It's like I want to get the fuck out of LA. So let's do it So I moved in the middle of everything so this is giant deal I have an all sudden they're like where are you going? Where I'm going to take it like don't go This is crazy like are you sure you won't be able to get gas? I'm like look I'm flying guests in three times a week anyway, right? Us already flying people in from New Mexico and New York and New York's closer than You know, it's a great spot really right.

1:44:24It's not like a six hour flight That's six hour flight across the whole country's a pain in the ass That you know, the people were worn out by the time they got there So you know, they had to like have a night to rest and relax and rehydrate and then the next day maybe you know Still they're probably not a hundred percent. You know, this is like three hours three hour flight ain't shit It's a three hour flight for everywhere. Yeah, so it's easy. It's a great spot Yeah, but it's also like I feel like sometimes the universe calls you in a way And tells you just like it gives you a feeling again.

1:44:58I think I ideas are like a life form I really do I think it's like an unexplored life form. I think that's why the concept of the muse is so enticing to people Because there's something real to it like when you decide you're just gonna sit there and write and you just It doesn't always come like sometimes you get nothing But sometimes because you sat there you'll have some of the best lines you've ever written Because I think they're like life forms that you have to call into your life And I think sometimes These life forms these ideas they just exist in the ether and by circumstance They like kind of gel together and become more More valid and more alive and then they enter into your mind and if you're Ready to receive these ideas You have to act on them especially if they're positive.

1:45:48I'm not saying you know go fuck up The Capitol building because you have an idea. I mean positive ideas. Not vengeful like if you have a good A good soul if you're your your your golden life is a positive thing These ideas will come to you and you're supposed to if you can you're supposed to act on I mean, I felt like what a unique opportunity. I have to be able to do this I shouldn't be scared because it's daunting and it's expensive and it's like what are you doing like you just just do it Just do what you do just do you know? I here's one thing that I believe I believe that Things disguise themselves and we call them coincidences But there really are no coincidences and if you'll look for things that look like coincidences You can follow that line and go somewhere with it.

1:46:34Yeah, and And I feel like that that's what happened whenever you know with the mass exodus and people started coming to comedy To make this the best comedy seen in the world. Yeah You know those things fell into place because that's what was supposed to happen and and And I think it all happened because of me I in that I needed it the worst. I needed this more than anybody else did And I feel like I was able to cash in all my fucking karma or whatever And draw it all into me a little bit Because I needed it and that and so you know Well, it makes sense like it's a certainly a huge factor right because if you didn't inspire me to even think about Austin I wouldn't have and I wouldn't have moved here if you weren't here.

1:47:22I don't think maybe I would have But it helped a lot that you were here. I was like this makes it so much easier than I know Ron's here And because it was weird times then man everything was even going to a restaurant you felt like you were a rebel like it felt weird It felt weird to not be scared like you like you wanted to hide the fact that you weren't scared that you wanted to just go out It was strange strange strange time that I think even now we look back on and we can't like I watched a UFC fight the other day an older fight and all the corner man had masks on like this is the craziest thing That's a big time stamp right there, you know, it's bizarre It was a a fight that took place in an arena in Florida with no crowd no crowd It was just in Gachi versus Tony Ferguson.

1:48:12It was one of the first fights we did back Um, it was like and you were there, uh -huh. Yeah, and I was watching the fight Uh, the other day and I was looking at the corner man. They all had masks on. I was like what a weird fucking time What a weird I remember like people would get upset if I didn't wear a mask backstage I'm like, what are we doing? What is this for like this is crazy? These guys are beating the fuck out of each other and sweating on each other You know and all of us tested negative. That's how we got through here Like someone gonna magically gonna get COVID while we're all wandering around together Don't we all test negative?

1:48:47So you had to get in this room. They had to be able to test you Everybody get tested like those shows that you did with sure pal exactly So we're all in this room take that fucking stupid mask off right even this shows you did with your pal outside The people were supposed to wear masks outside Outside everyone's tested. Is this a mystery magical disease that we're encountering That it like demons hiding in the woods well it but it but it was too at one time wasn't it yeah You know, I lost Vic Henley to that disease in New York City early on but Vic was not a healthy guy Well, what the what the disease does exposed metabolic health problems I didn't I'll admit that.

1:49:30I mean he was a raging alcohol. I can do it and I knew he was really considering Making some changes in his life, you know, he was talking to me about And then boom, you know gone so he So in that sense. Yes, it was yes, but it wasn't in the sense where all these healthy people Who have been tested or where no no that's ridiculous? Especially the asteroids and the fighters like What we would have to do is if one of the corner men got COVID even if the fighter didn't have COVID the fighter was pulled from the card So one of the corner men tests positive for COVID because the fighter had been around him even if he's negative We treated it different than we treated anything ever and especially for the fighters It had like it was not gonna have an effect on them and unless they did there's one guy did have an effect on He got COVID really really bad, but it's because they kept training these guys kept training while they had COVID They now a lot of these guys they don't give a fuck they have the flu.

1:50:31Who cares? They're showing up at the gym It's part of being an animal is like you'll show up sick and you'll train through a sick But you shouldn't do that you're just breaking your immune system down further and especially if you're in camp So being in camp for a fighter is very different than regular working out Being in camp for a fighter is you are basically Redlining your body trying to get it to recover like trying to get it to keep pace So you can get to a super human level that's only achievable After like a 12 week camp and you could only hold on to it for a couple weeks They got it they know when you're peaking sometimes and they'll back a fighter off they'll go we're done today We're done today you're peaking too early you're peaking too early You don't want to overdo it So you want to back off your training when you're feeling absolutely perfect and get yourself a little just slow down Where we're we're a little too soon like a really good trainer knows when you're peaking But you can't maintain it forever It's really only for that's why it's so crazy that a lot of these guys they'll accept a fight on like 10 days notice like that's nuts That's nuts like you need you need to be peaking you need to be like you're gonna fight in a fucking cage And I know you're doing this as a financial decision, but that's what John Jones is the smartest John Jones never did that They changed opponents fuck you fights off John John even guys like Chale Sun and who we eventually Stopped in the first round like absolutely destroyed It was a it was not even remotely competitive.

1:52:08It was in annihilation It would have been an annihilation 365 days a year for decades. It wouldn't have mattered Well, how good John Jones is and his greatest Chale Sun and is John Jones was the bigger man Chale had fought at 185 pounds John was a big 205 And he was the most talented guy they'd ever fought in the sport and he's gonna win every time But when they changed the opponent they try to make a Chale Sun and he's like nope Nope, we do things the right way. I go through a full camp That's it fights off Everybody's like, ah because they want you to play ball get it we need a new guy But look to this day everybody says he's the goat.

1:52:42Well, why is he the goat because he did everything the right way He he knew especially when he wasn't partying He did everything the wrong way too. I mean, he did a lot of party and still beat the fuck out of everybody because he was that good Because he was that talented one of the craziest things he ever said Daniel Kormier when they were having a rematch They were talking shit in the press conference and Daniel Tormier said something to John John goes I beat you when I was long coke Is the craziest statement because he says it you're like oh shit And it's true. It's true. That's how good John was But if you try to change opponents John's like uh -uh try to call John Jones in for a late notice fight on five days No, so tell you go fuck yourself Like nope, I'll rather hang out at home my dog Like he's not doing it like you got a so these guys when they're peaking They're vulnerable they get sick a lot especially when they're cutting weight because you're redlining your body And you could overdo it and guys overdo it all the time they over -trained They just break themselves down with they just think they haven't They've kept too much pace and not enough recovery and they're declining and declining and decline and they show up at the gym They have no energy And like fuck and if you get a guy to the fight that's over -trained It's horrible.

1:54:00It's horrible to watch. I've seen it many times the guys just can't recover. They're too tired They over did it. They were too tough for their own good So though one of those guys got COVID this guy Homsach Mayav and this motherfucker is a psychopath He's a savage like one of the most savage guys is ever fought in the sport and he just kept training Just kept training. He just motherfucker trains like eight hours a day He trains like a Wolverine. He's an animal. He was training with COVID and he kept kept getting real sick When I'm getting hospitalized Coffin up blood gets out goes right back to it same thing hospitalized again He got hospitalized like twice because he wouldn't stop training.

1:54:38Just he's that psychotic But other than him Regular athletes they get it. They just take a few days off. Right. Daniel Kormier had COVID train through it and won the title One the heavyweight title training through COVID in his camp He was sick during camp and kept training And everybody was like let's just keep on I didn't get off the couch The whole time I had COVID So just imagine those level of athletes and we're worried about it so much that everybody has to wear a mask like shut the fuck up Right, this is nuts So all that had to happen too where we were The Reckless ones We were the ones that like I don't I'm not buying this.

1:55:24I'm gonna live my life. I'm going to Texas And there was a lot of people that were really mad like what are you doing? You're not scared What are you doing? You're doing shows and doors? You're killing people blood is on your hands There was screaming at you The massive people that were just all caught up in this psi op They were just the you know, and it was great It was not good really, but it was great in that it exposed These fragile thinkers so many fragile minds They couldn't couldn't see the forest for the trees they just they couldn't see it And when we all came out here when we said we see it like this is bullshit Yeah, yeah, it's you'll make you sick Yeah, you'll have to be at home for a week.

1:56:12Yeah, get get vitamin drips. You'll be all right like yeah, this is what we're dealing with for real and A lot of people agreed and then it turns out we were right It turns out we were right at the end of the day. We were correct. We were correct to Want to live our lives. We all went back to live. Oh, it's no too soon Says who says who the fucking government has been lying to you about this Do you find that back on it and and and realize it then it happened You know that it really fucking happens that we were locked up locked down It's not good because it's it's like when you find out your friends at bitch And then you have to count on them again in the future like Dude Don't fall apart on me here.

1:56:57Right show up like don't get scared when you need I need help like you find out your friend Falls apart under pressure like oh great. Why are you crying Mike? What are we doing? Don't cry This is crazy like now you can't count on Mike because Mike falls apart when chickens hot And this is how it feel Feels like a good percentage of the country You know, it was a joke from my last special, but it's really feel this way We lost a lot of people during COVID and most of them are still alive That I've wrote that line thinking about specific friends It's like what did you think was going on? What did you think was going on?

1:57:38Yeah, it's a disease, but what what since when have you changed your entire fucking life for years For a disease This is nuts since one of you listen to the entire government tell you you can't have Outdoor dining because of a disease like a disease you've already had You've already gotten through it and there's still telling you this and we're we're a year and a half into this fucking thing And so we were right and so so many people because we were right so many people also came and that's the beautiful thing It's like people speak with their actions and the people that are willing to make a leap like that Those are the ones you want there those are the ones like we got the best of the best we got the The most fuck you of the fuck you people This comedians are fuck you people they are something happens to society like hey man fuck you Right, you know or Edestine when bowl of fuck Edestine bowl of fuck no matter what it is you know and The world needs that I need that I need that I need you here.

1:58:39I need Tony. I need I need people like that the same way that you did So we we all sort of collectively manifested it together But without you we wouldn't be here. Yeah, so you guys come on down to Austin Texas and check out the mother ship and see how much fun We're having if you don't believe it if you like we're making this shit up because you I also almost bought the cult house Yeah, right that would have been You know I made it happen I People say yeah, he did that would have been horrible. It wouldn't have been horrible I would have been amazing because it was a cool place and I you know I I mean it was it would have been amazing.

1:59:15Yeah, it would have been amazing. It's an amazing spot And it's hilarious that a cult used to oh I feel terrible for all the people that were roped into building it and All the people that guy butt you were doing that piece. It was so funny and you quit doing it You didn't do that under special. No, that was so funny. Yeah, it's a true story I gave you that line that it's okay to be able to ask people and butt fuck them because it's they falls under the category of I talked them into it Yeah, it's basically the same thing. That's not illegal at all. Yeah, I talked the guy to let me fuck him in the ass It's kind of technically not illegal with them watch going back and forth Right That's not the legal that's not the guy was a hypnotist and a gay porn star like what a combo right and then when they found the gay porn like the doc You watch the documentary right?

2:00:02The documentary is incredible, but Ron The people know at all Ron had performed at this so you performed at that place You know I fucking love that theater you should buy that place and then it was for sale I was like oh we're in right and then Adam Egett is what he goes if you see the documentary It's on that cult Mike oh no. Oh no, Ron. Why what have you done? What have you done? I Watch the documentary. I don't think I even realized it at that time that that's what that building was I don't think I knew that it was a cult Yeah, building whenever I first took you I've maybe seen the videos of the guy dancing around yeah Oh, yeah, that was what I think that years ago.

2:00:42I mean years and years ago So I knew about that anyway, but I didn't realize that that was the building or maybe maybe I Those are the same people wearing masks in their cars. You know what I'm saying? It's like that's why you can start a cult If you just get everybody who wears a mask in their car You could rope those motherfuckers and doing almost anything and that's how cults get started. Yeah Yeah, no people are looking looking for leadership. Well, they're also looking for Canadian really dumb Like thinking about the positive aspects of the mother ship right like we're all having a good time Well, this is what everybody really wants But what if the only way you can get that is to believe Baba Kinesh over there Who's like you change this name and now you're as wooden beads and he sits in the lotus position and Everybody's got to suck his dick like I just wanted to do yoga and hang out with everybody.

2:01:28Why don't I got a suck this guy's dick This is kept sucking his dick and you know what they're sucking his dick somewhere else now You know why in Hawaii? Yeah, yeah, still get his dick sucked some guys just really good at like I get their dick sucks It's like the thing where you need to be on acid to understand the grateful dead It's like you need to be at the special frame of mind with a special nine volt brain where you can Get talked into a cult like that, but it happens every day every day every day Every day all throughout the country that you know I was talking to Mark and Jason about this venture capitalist guys and brilliant guy And he was telling me that there's a ton of active cults right now in California.

2:02:10Oh, yeah, that are functioning Like you only hear about the ones that wind up getting in shootouts with the feds right of them That actually function somehow or another they keep it together You know people leave they tell the horror stories and some people join right But like while while country is a great example that Netflix documentary yeah It's a crazy thing is in the beginning. It looks so fun Yeah, it looked completely fucking doable so doable You know our leaders got really nice fucking cars look Yeah, he'd be wrong. He can't be wrong. He's at 20 rolls Royces There's so many of them. It's it's like whatever The way that we evolved in tribal society to listen to the chief We all have this like strange desire to either be the chief or listen to the chief Sure, you know either be the alpha or listen to the alpha and someone can pretend to be the chief The chief with magical inside and You know what the most fucked up thing about that documentary is the thing that still fucks with my head Is it that guy would do these thing this thing to these people called the knowing where he would write and they would orgasm They would just have like they would literally meet God To this day they all say that it was real that that thing actually did happen Like the power of suggestion the fact that he kept it from them for so long And then the one day or this is your coming of age ceremony Well, this is the one day you're gonna get the knowing and he would put his hands on them And they would really experience something And they said it was like they were they were experiencing God like they It was the most bliss they had ever felt in their life and that they never felt it again so They're the circumstances in the ritual Activated this innate part of our consciousness that's always there This ability to talk to God the ability to communicate with God Which is probably what every religion is trying to do It's all like this whisper of the truth that's out there in the ether and everybody knows that it's out there There's something there.

2:04:21I just have to figure out how to and this guy it's crazy gay porn star hippantist but fucking all these dudes Still even this guy was able to touch these people And they were able to access that part of their brain And they were in they were in they were like oh we're in man. I'm following this guy everywhere This guy really is like connected to God Well, you know, I think that That prayer So I was that just with prayer Is a physical thing not a spiritual thing and that's why it works for anybody You know, I believe it's a way to channel energy and you changes the way you feel But it doesn't matter what you're praying to that it's a physical transfer of vendory right and not a spiritual thing And and because anybody can do it and and also hypnosis is so powerful when it's done Correctly and I know that because I've experienced hypnosis done well and So boy if you had both of those things, you know You could have power over anybody that's stupid enough to fucking that's the problem That was what they did during the Manson family MK ultra During those days this part of the chaos book by Tom O 'Neal It's about the Manson family excuse me the Manson family murders And one of the things that they went into is the fact that this guy who Worked for the CIA at the time as a part of MK ultra's name was Jolly West And Jolly West is this figure all throughout the counter culture Resistance movement that the federal government it sort of concocted and Part of what he was doing was teaching people how to manipulate people with LSD and he was Teaching Charlie Manson in jail like they've this guy visited Manson in jail Then Manson would get out of jail and Manson would get in trouble get arrested and then get released and the the sheriff's All say it's over my pay grade They were all told to let him go and so he was implicated in murders and violent crimes and they all always let him go They always had to let him go and he was getting acid and he had sophisticated Methods of manipulating minds it wasn't as simple as like this is a charismatic dude And they all want to cut a baby out of fucking Sharon Tate stomach No, it was way crazier than that.

2:06:46It was sophisticated mind control from MK ultra and they wanted to see if they could get people to become Homicidal maniacs and they were right they could they knew how to do it They used it and they got Manson to do it and it threw water on this whole anti -war hippie movement all that piece love shit Now hippies are murderers now hippies are trials Manson now you know your kid wants to just like fucking Paint flowers and show up at grateful dead shows no need kids of murder your kids are fucking these all the the hippies are suspects now It worked. It was a fascinating thing they did Like the the way they threw Water on this movement that was happening Like in 1970 there's a Just threw it down and put schedule one on everything if the Nixon administration hadn't done that in 1970 Who knows what the world looks like today like who knows who knows if you can get eye -begin in ayahuasca in America if still sivin had stayed legal What it was it made illegal in 1970?

2:07:58All that stuff yep all that stuff became schedule one in 1970 marijuana was always illegal Illegal from like the 1930s and that was because it was a textile and that was because it was a commodity It had almost nothing to do with the drug itself. They were trying to outlaw hemp They were worried because they had come out with a new way to process hemp fiber It's called a decorticator. They invented this thing is Big thing cop popular science magazine How hemp the new billion dollar crop it was like they were saying we're all gonna use hemp now because now There's an effective way to process the fibers and their superior to everything else makes superior paper superior cloth superior everything right everything much much much much better plant and William Randolph first was like fuck that so really William Randolph first starts publishing stories in his newspapers About how blacks and Mexicans are taking this new drug called marijuana.

2:08:57They invented the name It was a wild Mexican tobacco. That's what marijuana used to be It was slang for a wild Mexican tobacco. So they put that name on cannabis something that people had had forever People have been smoking it forever. It was literally the the origin of the term canvas Comes from cannabis. Yes, oh, I didn't know that it's all hemp If you go like the monolisa those are all painted on hemp the first draft of the declaration of independence was written on hemp hemp was a far superior paper. It's really difficult to tear. It's a crazy fiber. Hey, can we put this on pause? Huh, you got a piss?

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2:11:54That was a moment. I don't know what that was Well, I was over here blabbing about the illegalization of weed And how crazy it is and we were talking about ayahuasca and all those things and all of a sudden You just got a little pale. Yeah, I got a little pale and start to sweat and I don't know what it is I just got a little sick. I feel a little better now. I've had a nice yack and This is a how long is this sickness been with you? I felt fine all day. I felt fine yesterday. I played golf. I had uh You know, it says this happened before though. It just comes on out of nowhere. No, this is being the first time So maybe it's like a maybe it's another thing.

2:12:33I don't know. I don't know what it is Wow, and you've had a couple IVs, right? I had a two last week And I'll go home and get another one. Yeah I'm sure I'll be fine in just a little bit damn sure. I'll be cool damn You any plate golf Yeah, play golf with my son had a great time It's a nice day to play golf too Absolutely one of the things that we have out here in Texas is real weather I love it when it rains and everything's so green and pretty and you need to go down to Costa Rica I do need to go down to Costa Rica that uh stay in your neighbor's place I do need to it's the sweetest thing. Yeah, that I've ever seen Yeah, my big pet peeve is one of people say it's the best thing you've ever seen Like this is the best thing you've ever seen buddy.

2:13:27I've seen some shit I think it's some shit Exactly like what are you saying? I've seen so many things but uh but that place down there that Snow that it's another driftwood that are like you know kind like driftwood but uh yeah It is fucking gorgeous. I heard that driftwood place is amazing place out here. It's the best man It's so pretty right now because all of the you know they blow in a bunch of wild flowers all over it And it's just fucking gorgeous. It's a great golf course. I almost wish I played golf It's a waste of time and money. You don't have uh you know I know you don't have time so I yeah, I would love it.

2:14:06I'm sure uh but So We should probably wrap this up because you're not feeling that good right? I feel a little better. You're right Yeah, I'm okay. I'm a little bit. Yeah. All right Well, it's a it's just uh When someone gets sick like that, you don't know what to do like fuck yeah, I don't know what to do But I swear I feel better. I feel I don't feel hot anymore. I'm so weird So weird like what is that? I just need you to get something out of my stomach real quick. I think crazy Quickest way to do it. It's just crazy that something's been like you know, you have a little invader in your body Yeah, you're fighting off That's what we're doing all the time fighting off these invaders Yeah, I'm still coming to the club tonight.

2:14:50I'm like I'm gonna drip and come do a set Ha ha ha Of course, is it be fun tonight? It's camp Patterson show tonight. Oh good good It's an exciting time Will is in the world is okay. Audic right now, which is great for comedy Whenever the world's fucked up the comedy's how it's best Gaza and Palestine and uh It's fucking Ukraine and the tariffs It's great to come out and do do some comedy. Yeah I'm you know what I and I stay away from all of it good and of that subject matter any policy or anything like that and the reason is uh, you know I know my I know my crowd. I know what they want and and they want to laugh really hard and they want to and and I think that I've always taken a position as I'm just not gonna bring that into it.

2:15:46I'm gonna let us do something I don't know. I love it when other people do that are really good at it and you know that it's fun to want And it's entertaining as fuck But I just decided a long time ago that I'm just gonna I'm just gonna go out there and make them laugh as hard as I can make them laugh and let them have some time off from tragedy or whatever and yeah And and I'm not that good at it anyway So you know it's that I've never been a political commentator right? So why be one now and then uh Well the problem with politics is you're gonna alienate you're saying the crowd at the dead split Yeah, and split and if you're one of those people that takes a stand on stage like okay great right now you take it to stand Yeah, okay, but just just let's let's have fun.

2:16:30It's silly and less What you have to say is so good that you can make someone laugh. Oh if you're good enough Yeah, if you're good enough, right? You know, I saw it People try to you know take on 9 -11 right after 9 -11, but I only saw like one person That was really if if you're good enough to write about that then write about it But if you're not good enough to write about it leave it to fuck alone Fuck alone that's some black belt material. Yeah, yeah, you have to be skill level whatever. Yeah, you know Mitsy Shore wouldn't let Brian Holtzman on stage for two weeks after 9 -11 I didn't know that She's like no way keep him off the stage The Holtzman couldn't wait couldn't wait to say something fucking completely outrageous Whatever that demon inside of him that comes out when he's on stage.

2:17:20Yeah, I don't understand him You know, I really don't I love him. I love him to death But he's such an original character and the most he's from a different time It's like he was brought here from another dimension. He's like a different thing even the way dresses. It's like he's from the 50s right Is and he's like my age like he's he's not He was like that when I met him. He's from a different arrow when I met him in 94 I was like oh you know him that long. Yeah, I'm like where is this fucking guy from like you're from a different time People fucking love him though, man. They just fuck kind of crowd now.

2:17:55Yeah, he does That's the difference between the way he was treated at the store unfortunately He fell into this and Through nobody's fault But it was like everybody waited till the end and Holtzman go up But like why have him on the end? You know, it's like what we have him on when the crowds hot Right, like don't put him on it one in the morning put him on a 10, you know Let's see when the crowd is like popping like let him let him cook when the crowds pop it You know and now he sells out people come to see him right in the headlines. It's like people get excited You know, he's a maniac and he's got a crowd now.

2:18:30He's got like a legitimate draw. They get it. Yeah, they get it. Yeah, it's nice It's fun And you know that's also the difference between uh when a comedy club is run by a comic You know because Holtzman always has always been a comic for comics, you know We all would go to see Holtzman at the end of the night when he was doing these insane sets for 15 people in the main room Right, but now like we're running the shows like give him a fucking weekend Let's go give him a Thursday night. Let's go Let's have some fun Right, he does a lot of PM shows he does a lot of Thursday. Yeah, especially 10 PM shows.

2:19:05That's the best time to see him When it's late and you've had a couple of cocktails right you feel a little crazy about the world. Yeah, let that guy Let that guy lose you understand as you joke Yeah, you get jokes you get someone saying something that doesn't really mean right? It's completely ridiculous to say Yeah, that's part of the fun. Yeah, yeah, and then he acts like he means it and you buy into it Now it's a joke still yeah, but every now and then he'll show you behind the curtain. Yeah Every now and then he'll give you a little peeking like okay. Yeah, this is an act He's having fun.

2:19:40He is he's having a good time. He loves Austin too. I see him walking around down down It most every time I've dropped through the city. He's just Yeah, it was a big get getting him here It was a big get because we wanted to bring a lot of the there was some magic That was trapped in the town of the comedy store. It's magic and some of it wasn't being utilized correctly Holtzman's the best example that but what a fun hang it was you know what a fun hang Yeah, it was it was great as some of my favorite times in my life in that back bar. Yeah, just laughing Just laughing. We would be back there just laugh.

2:20:14That was a great thing the comedy store did when they put together that bar That it had mitzies actual bar from her house was the bar there. I didn't know that yeah That bar what didn't used to be there like so the early days that was like a storage room And so at one point in time in the store was like really killing it They decided like we should turn this into a bar and I thought I don't know what year was that I want to feel like I feel like that was like 2014 ish like which is right when I came back and the store was killing it and we all Were like oh yeah, we'll have our own bar. This is incredible And you had to go through the kitchen to get through it like a scene from good fellas right and you get back there and you could only Be back there if you were cool like you you couldn't buy a ticket.

2:21:02It was police. Yeah. Yeah, you had to have a friend You know somebody to get back there But we would be hanging with some of the coolest people in the world. That was my favorite place of drink It was so fun. There'd be musicians back there Yeah, everybody was just chill on the drinks for free. Yeah, it was crazy. It was like it was so fun The store was a magical place man a magical place And there's something about the fact that You know, it had this insane history to it that you felt like wow. I can't believe I'm even here right standing on the stage Same last stages of prior and can't And you just you're in the the belly of the beast on sunset in Hollywood like right in the middle of everything Right in the middle of everything where everybody I remember when I was a kid in 1988 when I first started doing stand -up they would talk about the comedy store like it was mecca Right, you had to make your pilgrimage to the store and some guys would say they went there with the bomb Oh back to try to do some meetings I did a set the store at bomb that fuck that place like Yeah, my first trip at LA, you know, I was trying to get on at the improv.

2:22:18I couldn't get on and And I was like, oh man, I went to the comedy store And I told him my story was Monday night and they put me up first Which wasn't a really good spot and I ate it and But they did put me on stage. Yeah, there. Well, there it is right there There was 10 people in there whatever nobody but and it was a horrible experience But but I but I always look back at it finally, you know because they did it Yeah, they said yeah goes go get on stage or that first time I ever came out to the store. I was out and I was out in LA to do some pilot thing for MTV and I was staying at a hotel and I knew what the store was was like I got to get there I just got to see what it's like and they let me in because I was I said I'm a comedian from New York.

2:23:07Can I just come in and watch the show and they're like yeah sure They just let me right now and then I sat in the back of the room There's like 19 people in there and they were all like the comics that were on stage were terrible They were all like boat acts They're like people that's and then I realized Years later that what had happened was A lot of these scenes they go in these peaks and valleys and I had caught it when it was out of valley And before it was at a peak like the kines in years it was a giant peak when people would come to it was the wild place kines in right there they all come at midnight watch him and celebrities to be all there And he had died in like 92 I think and I got there in 94 So there's like there's this like Absence well, right it was a real low there wasn't There's a lot of like leftovers people that didn't that were in the 80s that didn't make it right But they were still around they're still doing stand -up and hoping that something was gonna happen, but they had tired acts They were just tired it hadn't happened for them.

2:24:09They're out there doing pilot season They didn't want to be at the store because they're at the store. There's no No Agents there's no executive no one comes to see you at the store at that time they would go to the improv Go to the laugh factory That's where the industry was so if you really wanted to have an actual career you wouldn't be doing sets at the store Instead to do sets in front of bud for even going language watch your language Yeah, there's a lot of that back then right the TV days everybody thought you had to be clean You know when I came back to the store it was in its hey day, you know you were but you know running the podcast And you know fucking place was back to the rafters and the comics were solid as fuck, you know Uh, we had a magical run Yeah, there's a magical run and we're having one now Yeah, it's the same thing.

2:25:04I mean, we're it's basically but it's our version of it the new version of it But it's the same thing. It's just like it's a beautiful thing when I mean that term artists is very pretentious. So just say comics Realize that we're all doing this thing together and there's not a lot of us and it's fun to hang out together and enjoy each other This company and and appreciate each other and appreciate the ride. We're all in this wild ride together. That's right And it is quite a ride. It's a beautiful ride quite a ride. Yeah, we're very lucky Ron white and I say it all the time, but it's true. You're your patient zero All right, man.

2:25:39I'll take the title I'll take the title you really patient zero because you just threw up imagine if you have some fucking new COVID picked up some new COVID and Vegas kills us all Yeah, I love you to death brother. I love you too. Thank you for being here. How are you? You got thanks for having me Good bye. Thank you guys