#2304 - Gary Brecka

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37:59He's like that freaks me out a little bit. I'm gonna be honest with you I said dude. I gave him a fair of shorts So uh because I was like do you and does anything on your body hurt? Did you know your knees your hips shoulders is anything hurt? He's like to fucking everything in my body hurts So I was like get in there man and um, I put him in there for 25 minutes He said it was like the first time he had slept eight hours and woken up with out paid in probably 15 years Wow Yeah, John Jones same thing, you know, I mean John Jones has been very public about When I you know Working with me. I bet I've been to talk to him a little while but right before his last fight Um, I brought him one of these hydrogen machines to bay then uh, and we just set up the the the tub at his house And we ran hydrogen gas into the tub.

38:46So we would do red light therapy. Um, he would drink hydrogen water and And he would bathe in this uh, hydrogen gas and it was about 15 or 20 days after I kind of parachuted into his camp and and uh and set all this up that he taxed me and he was like holy shit Brother can't believe him, you know, I'm out of pain. I'm adding a six -date in my training routine Um, now I'm waking up not in pain, you know, sleep matter um So it's it's really incredible what hydrogen gas can do in the body and it don't it don't take my word for it I mean there's there actually is a really interesting study but published by dr.

39:22LeBaron Tyler LeBaron he's a PhD And he actually I think his PhD is in molecular hydrogen. So I should tease him about where his life went wrong Then he got a PhD in hydrogen but Like where where did you bang a left that you decided? I'm gonna get a PhD in hydrogen but He published a study looking at um uh, electrolyzed alkaline water um and And when they removed the hydrogen gas All of the benefits of of alkaline water went away So the benefits from alkaline water are coming from the excess presence of hydrogen gas and um, even when you add hydrogen gas to Regular water it will drop the RP it will make the oxidative reduction potential negative So it you know has more capacity donate electrons So I just think it's a phenomenal discovery and it's dirt it's dirt cheap When you were telling me that these bottles water bottles that generate hydrogen They're great in the beginning but that over time they deteriorate With the same issue happen with the hydrogen generators that you would use for the cold plunges um You know, there are a lot more robust.

40:36They're a commercial generator So they're they're not actually working under pressure. So the water flows through these So a lot of the ways that you um create high -part per million hydrogen gas in in these Water bottles and and I I actually just want them about the To uh put a press release out about it. I actually just won a $16 million civil judgment against uh Of fake hydrogen water bottle company that used my name image and likeness to run Uh a bunch of ads and sold tens of millions of dollars in these bottles um But essentially at the bottom of these bottles there's something called a proton exchange membrane And this proton exchange membrane comes in contact with the with the water through to electrolysis and it creates the hydrogen gas The problem with these bottles is that This electrolysis process if you put tap water in there and use chlorine can actually create chlorine gas You can also create something called hypochloric acid So what happens is over time the bottles that I tested because I used to be a huge fan of these bottles And I carried them everywhere and I would notice that that that it didn't bubble as much You know four or five months after I I you know had this had the bottle and so I sent it to a Be tested and lo and behold You know these proton exchange membranes break down over time So the first time you use the bottle you're getting very high part per million hydrogen Before five months later you're getting almost not maybe six months later you might be getting zero Could you just swap out the membrane and continue to use the same bottle or would you know Yeah, but they don't do bottle they don't send you and do proton exchange membrane now some of them you can screw off the bottom And they theoretically could send it to you but but they're expensive they're like 253 hundred bucks.

42:18I mean uh An H2 tab like a hydrogen tab will cost you a bucket day right I'm so you can travel it more and it gives you a higher part per million than almost all those bottles and it's consistent It's hype It's high -dose hydrogen gas that's exactly consistent So every single time I put one of those tablets in the water. It's just it's a consistent dose of hydrogen gas And I used to get a lot of shit online because I was promoting these bottles so heavily because I believed in them tremendously but You know the average person's like out of pocket 250 300 bucks, right? So there's a lot more financially cost effective.

42:54Yeah, so with the co plunge thing you're saying so because Commercial unit it would work differently and it'd be more robust Well, it's not using pressure, okay, right? It's so it's it's circulating through this machine and it's creating you know Using electrolysis and creating the hydrogen gas going back into the tub because you don't need You're not trying to drink a therapeutic dose. You're trying to bathe in a dose. You don't need as high -par per million So you don't need the pressure But the really cool thing is because if you do it in a cold plunge And when I pull this off, I'll send you one If you do it in a cold plunge because you know as the temperature drops the more you know You can do it dissolve more gas in that volume of liquid so Ideally you would have the Hydrogen generator outside of your cold plunge Let your cold plunge run and fill with hydrogen gas and then you you're getting in there for the anti -inflammatory response anyway A lot of times plus the brown fat activation and culturec protein release and all peripheral vasoconstriction all of that but You would now be exposing yourself to Very high doses of of hydrogen gas you'd feel Amazing getting out of there.

44:03Mm -hmm when I when I bathe in that hydrogen gas so my wife sage Um, I had a really bad car accident right right before we met 10 years ago and she severely Damaged her spine to her her alpha and best one and ended up having to have a spinal fusion And so her alpha and best one is fused and even though she's thin she's fit she she Gets a lot of low back pain and when her back pain flares up. There's no chance she's sleeping But when we put her into that hydrogen nanobath. I mean 25 minutes in there. She sleeps like a little baby And it's very calming too. It's that shifting you from that sympathetic state that kind of fight her flight to that Paris sympathetic that extent of rest and digest You can feel that if the effects of that hydrogen gas when it goes transdermal and starts to relax you You know feels feels well It seems like the more effective way is to do it in a warm tub though because you couldn't stay in there for longer So you'd get more exposure So you get you would get less hydrogen but more exposure than the three -minute cold plunge Yeah, I mean I I this is where you know I like to see some data which I don't have so I do know that if you if the water is colder You're gonna you're gonna dissolve more gas because you're so you're gonna have a higher part per million and cold water Than you are in warm water But then you got to look at what's happening in warm water You're probably having your pores are dilated.

45:24You've got a little vasodilation You probably have better surface circulation in your skin So you might be actually carrying more the hydrogen through the skin. I don't know Versus when you're in a cold plunge you're gonna have that peripheral vasoconstruction You're still gonna get hydrogen through the skin because it's a higher to higher dose But I don't have any clinical data to say the one is better than the other Have you done the cold plunge? Hydrogen oh, yeah, 100 % I mean I did it with a bath bomb. I did it I didn't do it with a bath bomb. I did it with the one in my house that actually have three of these machines I did it with the one in my house that Recirculates it you throw a hose over one side and and it sucks the water out of your cold plunge and then you Throw a hose over the other side and puts the hydrogen gas back in well how long does the process take to I let it I let it run for like 15 or 20 minutes because I wanted it to be really saturated and the water looks kind of milky In fact, I did it.

46:19I had Laura Trump over for We shot this Fox News uh Avand Tony or for her show for her Laura Trump show and and I did it for us to do this cold plunge shoot I added the hydrogen gas to the to the cold punches before we got in there felt Amazing getting out of there now. I'm trying to actually plummet right into The cold plunge so it's just in line So it just runs either all the time or I can turn a valve and turn the hydrogen gas on and have the gas go into the Go into the cold plunge so that's the next thing But right now for people you can just go get these hydrogen bath bombs You can get these hydrogen bath bombs.

47:00Where where would you get one of those um drink H2 tab I'll see you have the drink H2 tab .com. Okay All right. Yeah, if you go there and get the bath bomb I mean try it. I mean just throw one of those bath bombs in there and And feel how much different your body feels when you're bathing in hydrogen gas. It's it's incredible um, I I really feel like it is one of the best Hacks that so few people are using. I mean so many people aren't any inflammatory so many people are suffering from inflammation not just neural inflammation in the brain But non -specific markers of inflammation like see reactive protein, home assisting that are causing all kinds of havoc I mean you think about the fact that about 70 % of our circulation is is not Done by our heart right our heart circulates about 30 % of the blood in our body But the other 70 % of the circulation is is a is an activity called vasimotor or vasimotion or I think of a snake swallowing a a mouse and We don't really cater to this part of our circulatory system even explain what you're saying with a snake swallowing a mouse So so so think of a snake so so if the heart doesn't circulate Roughly 70 % of the blood in our body um How is that circulation occurring because obviously blood is still moving you have about 63 ,000 miles of blood vessel in your body um, and so there is your heart is not strong enough in a single contraction your left ventricle your heart that's ejecting that blood is not strong enough to push the blood through 63 ,000 miles of vessel and So how does the majority of this circulation occur?

48:41Well the majority of our circulation is micro vascular Right, so the micro vascular circulation does not move blood by pressure It moves blood by something called vasimotion or vasimotor And the best way I can describe vasimotion or vasimotor is to think of a snake swallowing a mouse The reason why I say that is because there's no pressure coming in the the front of the snake right? It's not it's not being pushed down the snakes throughout it's being muscularily moved down the snakes throughout so it's a wave -like motion, right? It's a it's this um wave -like motion called vasimotor or or or vasimotion and vascular laxity how the laxity that's in your vessels matters your blood viscosity matters and inflammation Matters.

49:31This is why when you look at the percentage of high blood pressure diagnoses for example if you were to just google what percentage of hypertension primary hypertension essential hypertension um or you know a high blood pressure is idiopathic right of unknown origin you'd see that 85 % of all high blood pressure hypertensive diagnosis are idiopathic we don't know the origin and So we examine these people's heart EKG EEG Heart sounds lung sounds maybe a die -contrast study maybe CT and G -Gram maybe you know some other kind of diagnostic heart imaging we can't find anything wrong with the heart And we medicate the heart anyway Generally for a crime it's not committing when there's an 85 % chance it's actually something other than the heart And we never look to the micro vascular circulation We never look to the 70 % of our circulation.

50:21That's actually not done by our heart. What are we doing? Decatur to that 70 % of our circulation? Well Things like respiratory All Hydrogen gas lowering our homocysteine which is for most people is very simple to do. I use an amino acid called tri -methyl glycine To help people metabolize homocysteine because it there's micro vascular Is very susceptible to high levels of homocysteine and there's so many people that have ailments that are consequences of poor circulation and We're treating something completely different. So for example poor focus and concentration Lots of autoimmune conditions if you look at the circulation in the brain liver longs pancreas kidneys You'll see that the majority of this circulation is micro vascular You know, I've talked about why while you and I both had a positive experience for example with red light What is red light doing to our eyes as if fixing the rods the macular decones the redna was there something damaged Red light fix no it just restored healthy vasomotor activity to the back of your eye Which is why I never wear protection in a in a red light bed.

51:33No, I'm saying a red light bed. I just gonna cure your eyesight. No It's so beat up for that But red light therapy is extraordinarily good for vasomotor circulation Well, why do you think it improves your skin the collagen to last in the fiber and why do you think it reduces fine lines and wrinkles? What is it improve? um Why can it improve our eyesight because it restores healthy vasomotor activity and there's So much vascular chur in our body that we don't really cater to this entire segment of our circulatory system think about how small a Capillary in artery has to be Decary a fluid to the edge of the lung Exchange a gas with the inside of the lung Pull that gas into the fluid and not bleed into the lung So you just think about how tiny that tube has to be and how many of those you have to have Because you don't forget right outside of your lungs you got fluid those alveoli are grabbing or grabbing gas and throwing that into a fluid Well, at some point that pipe has to Meet a piece of tissue.

52:36How is it not bleeding into that tissue? It is that small. It's microvascular This is also where hydrogen gas comes into play so I don't know where I was going with that point, but I just find it fascinating that we've got so many things that we can do to cater to a lot of these ailments that people Chalk up to a consequence of aging and they could be as simple um as catering to that portion of your your circulatory system this episode is brought to you by farmers dog It doesn't matter how old your dog is it's always a great time to start investing in their health and happiness and thankfully The farmers dog makes it easier than ever to feed your dog a healthy diet of real meat and veggies Dogs prefer their food even picky dogs and owners prefer their service if you have a question about your dog your plan your delivery or anything else They have 24 -7 customer service that connects you to real humans who are genuinely interested in providing the best experience possible for you and your dog They give you detailed instructions on how to transition your dog to fresh food and even proportionate for your dog specific needs feeding your dog healthy human grade food shouldn't be complicated and with the farmers dog It isn't the entire experience from box to bowl is a breeze so try the farmers dog today and give healthy Freshly made food a try you can get 50 % off your first box of food plus free shipping Just go to the farmers dog dot com slash rogan tap the banner or visit this episodes page to learn Offer available for new customers only this episode is brought to you by zippercruder in a survey 76 % of employers plan to grow their teams in 2025 Now that we're halfway through the year How are those hiring goals going?

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55:48Yeah, or 20 years 20 years would be wild wild be like sending one of them the space You know and it's so funny because you know We're so wrapped around our Medical system that's really 50 60 years old 70 years old and how important the randomized clinical trial is and placebo controlled randomized clinical trial that's been peer reviewed and and all of this but we negate the eastern philosophies that very often have been around for thousands of years and I almost have more Len more validity to something that's actually stood the test of time like something that doesn't work You's not gonna last a thousand years Um, you know that by virtue of the fact that it doesn't work when we were when we were in the mortality space We never used randomized clinical trials.

56:35We used big data and I think what you're about to see now that I was alluding to before is We built an entire system on You know the the most rigorous scientific study being the randomized clinical could you know placebo controlled randomized clinical trial? And so that is the gold standard and if it hasn't been through this process It is not valid won't we've never done randomized clinical trials on on parachutes But I wouldn't jump out of an airplane without one What's who wants to be in that time? Who wants to be in the control group? Okay, Stan Yeah, you're light up here You're getting the knapsack at a prayer book and we're getting a parachute very good point It's a very good point for there's some things you really can't run randomized controls studies on Yeah, I mean sometimes we just have data Right, we have really good data and and and one of the things I used to get just absolutely slaughtered for was I spoke out about the The simple LDL hypothesis of cholesterol saying that there is no correlation between elevated levels of LDL cholesterol on its own and cardiovascular disease You had to have corresponding increases in triglyceride you had to have inflammatory factors usually had to have other metabolic factors like hyper triglyceridemia hyperinsulinemia and And Yet everybody You know would really come after me for that and now we're starting to see That the data on stans is really falling apart You know, I mean big data is starting to tell us that The The extension of life is is is near zero But the extension of all cause mortality is near zero and then the complications downstream which we never study I mean you'll never find a randomized clinical trial Looking at more than one pharmaceutical compound in the same biome yet almost everybody at the age of 60 is on five or more prescriptions, but we don't study prescriptions in In concert with one another we study them independently.

58:39We say okay if you have high cholesterol you're on a stat Okay, that's independent if you have You know your hemoglobin A1C is over 6 .4 you're now insulin dependent. Okay, so now you're on insulin You've been a little sad lately. So now you're on SSRI And your thyroid has it's a hypo function So now you're also on a synthetic or leave a thyrroxy or arythiacid And you know your blood's gotten a little thick because you're On hormone therapies. So now you are on a blood thinner. So we've never studied the compounding effect of all of these different pharmaceuticals in the same biome We just assumed that the randomized clinical trial and these independent silos is valid Even though we're gonna smack all of these things together And one of the things that we learned in the mortality space was um the more pharmaceuticals you were on The easier it was for us to predict your life expectancy It was extraordinarily accurate for example if somebody started a corticosteroid which is very common for rheumatoid arthritis and um You know other forms of joint pain and whatnot if you started a corticosteroid You had by our data six years and one day Until you were getting a joint replacement Jesus six years and one day So that's the average that was the average So let's say for example that So why is that?

1:00:03Because initially corticosteroids are anion flammatory but then they eat the joint like a termite Oh good And you know we knew this in professional sports so a lot of careers were ended early from cortisone injections Um, you know a lot of athletes had their careers actually end early because they got too many too many cortisone injections How many is too many? Um you know it sort of depends on the joint and the and the location One of them can be beneficial One of them can be very beneficial for in the cute phase of a pain or injury They can be very beneficial But what they used to do is because these were repetitive use injuries and You know very often they would just dose the athlete up before a game.

1:00:38So I mean jothaism. I mean not jothaism um Joe Montana You know he's one of those careers that ended early very likely because cortisone injections and you keep injecting the same ligament just tissue with cortisone eventually you will weaken that tissue and it will snap You know first it has an anian flammatory Reaction but then it starts to break down the cartilage like like a termite In fact, it was so accurate. They're very often what would happen is people would get misdiagnosed with conditions like rheumatoid because they had the same symptomology As rheumatoid but what they actually had was a long term clinical deficiency in vitamin D3 and And you would see that they would have single digit vitamin D3 for decades and then all of a sudden they would start to present with symptoms that mimicked rheumatoid They would say hey doc, you know my chosen my feet and ankles are sore when I get out of bed in the morning To go take my first pee my I feel like I had a workout that I before when I haven't you know my low back hurts and my my my knees and hips and shoulders are stiff Now it's spread to my upper back and lately.

1:01:48It's kind of hard to make it really tight fist If you give those symptoms to the wrong primary care doctor Maybe without doing any any confirming diagnosis without said rates without RA factors they go You know what show you've got rheumatoid arthritis, but don't worry I'm gonna put you on something called a corticosteroid You're gonna take this pill every morning You're gonna be fine another trix -8 Whatever it is and initially you feel great Because it kills the inflammation But then it starts to erode The cartilage and surface so if you think about the fact that you had a nutrient deficiency that you're now being treated with a pharmaceutical and Six years in one day later now by the way the method trix -8 for example will give you a gene mutation But it will mimic a gene mutation called mthfr Oh that one that one the mother fucker gene Yeah, the mother fucker gene so even if you don't have mthfr Um Even if you don't have mthfr if you take the method trix -8 you inhibit your Your full -eight metabolisms cheers pro Hydrogen gas no coffee I actually saw you sniffing something on one of your podcasts on sauce.

1:03:04What was that? I don't want to I don't want to do it by the way. You can do it. I know I'm not gonna shut one over there No, no, no, no, no, I'm gonna get my own depression. I'm not doing it Here we go. I just see all this shit over here. This is a fresh one. So this one hasn't been open yet. What is that? This is uh, do you know who jiu jiu mufu is Crazy jiu mufu. Yeah super crazy. Well, he's an influencer, but he's like very impressive athlete Like super jack dude if you gotta name like jiu mufu fit You gotta be able to beat ass incredibly flexible. This is the guy. Oh, yeah I see a freak like a real freak.

1:03:37Yeah, I mean for sure. He's not natural. There's not a fucking chance in hell But I don't care, but what he makes this stuff We have no affiliation with him. We buy it. It's not we're not sponsored. So people are you making money up that bro? No money. No, no, I'm not making it. I'm scared dude. I saw she was on almost almost like Brian Simpson took his headphones off and ran out of the room. No Anywhere near that No, I'm gonna I'm gonna sniff it with the top on effect. Just the bag. Oh and it's giving you back I'll do the bag. Just take a sniff of the bag oh This is so wrong. It is wrong. It feels so dirty.

1:04:16Oh Oh my god dude nothing. That's nothing. That's just the bag that the smelling salts have been sitting in oh So what powerlifters do is they take a sniff of this shit right before they lift weights. You ready? Here we go No Oh Oh lordy dude there is come on bro. Get on in bro. Come on. Oh P. A pressure take it get it about six inches from the nose take a haul It's good for you. I can't guarantee it's good. No, no, no, that was not it. Oh you're a baby. Come on. You're a biohacker You're real man get in there take a sniff. Yeah, they're real man. I don't get in there bro. Get in there one two three go So yeah, that's what I'm talking about That's what I'm talking about Yeah, it's good.

1:05:12Oh, and that was a freshy the fresh ones are the really hard ones We have these in the green room with the comedy club people get addicted. They're all I take it. I think I'm I left Back better Now I'm gonna go down the rabbit hole of that I want you to want another one about five minutes about five minutes you're gonna say Give me round two Yeah, where were we dude? We're actually something important. I did mt hf r. I think I did want to ask you about cholesterol before I forget um where did the Narrative come from that there's good cholesterol and bad cholesterol and that hdl's good LDL's bad you want to lower your LDL and you want to take a statin where did all this So um, so you know high density lipoprotein and low density lipoprotein um, you know the hdl the high density lipoprotein is generally considered the good cholesterol and the LDL the low density or vldl very low density lipoprotein are considered the bad cholesterol because they're softer Right um but what What we know now is that the size of the cholesterol molecule matters a lot in other words these the smaller the particular size of cholesterol The easier it is to cross into the arterial wall gets you can eat in by macrophage and form something called a foam cell which is essentially this this foam cell process of oxidized cholesterol is what is the genesis of narrowing of the arteries right um But Again, we have to remember that cholesterol is called to the site of information So if you had two people one with cholesterol of a hundred and i'll do all cholesterol and another one with cholesterol of 129 Does a person with 129 have a higher Incidents of cardiovascular disease?

1:07:03No um does a does the person of 129 have a greater risk of A cardiovascular event? No just because they have elevated LDL cholesterol now if you start to look at other markers like c Reactive protein, which is a great mark for cardiovascular risk if you look at um triglyceride cholesterol ratio because remember Fat triglyceride is largely transported around the body on on the on the surface of cholesterol So if if cholesterol was a tennis ball The fuzzy yellow surface would be a fat triglyceride And if you remember from high school geometry as the size of a sphere gets smaller It's surface area to volume ratio goes up So what that means is if I had two basketball two I can still that thing is I got to seal this thing dude.

1:07:50It's like it's Like a blind in my left eye I'm trying to be smart. I can't see how am I left? What is it? That's a good question Amonia Joe man, I remember I remember my clinic when doctor sardis to tape these things to the wall because she would do She would do the shoulder injections on people and they would get woozy and she would just crack one of those These are boxers when they got knocked out when they got rocked and they get into the corner They give them smelling sauce and wake her up. Wow. Not really, but so let's say you had two basketballs of cholesterol This is an oversimplified version for the audience You have two basketballs of cholesterol and they're covered in fat.

1:08:33Okay, a triglyceride And let's say I add more triglyceride to the bloodstream Right, which which happens when you eat high sugar high glycemic carbohydrate Why because part of insulin's role is to block forms of energy metabolism that would allow you to burn fat Or at least slow those pathways down So essentially you have two two basketballs of cholesterol And now I want to add more fat to the table those two basketballs become four softballs If I add more triglyceride to the table they become eight base balls If I had more triglyceride they become 16 golf balls And if I continue to raise triglyceride they'll become 32 little babies So the point is the amount of cholesterol states stable The amount of triglyceride went up As the amount of triglyceride went up the size of the cholesterol molecule cuts smaller So the two basketballs and the 32 babies are the same volume of cholesterol same nanogram per desolate or cholesterol Just vastly different sizes those 32 babies Very dangerous those two basketballs Very little danger one is actually a marker for longevity One is a marker for cardiovascular disease and it is the same amount of cholesterol Just different sizes I got my blood drawn a couple years ago and the doctor asked me if I was on cholesterol medication He said your cholesterol is really low because are you on medication?

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1:11:28Yes uber eats can definitely get you that for almost almost anything delivered with uber eats order now For alcohol you must be legal drinking age Please enjoy responsibly product availability varies by region see app for details Yeah, you're you're Triglister I'd usually go down your LDL cholesterol will go up if you're on a ketogenic diet doctor I think it's in the deer sing is his name didn't unbelievable. He's a cardiologist and unbelievable YouTube video on this I actually did a podcast with doctor a seam melhotra who is a cardiologist has even here too Yeah, unbelievable. Okay. Shout out to a seam is credible credible guy And a seam would tell you the same thing that you know he he fought the British medical journal and Got publications that he was trying to have published you know pulled because he was fighting the narrative on statins It was one of the biggest biggest drugs in the in the world we knew in the mortality space that The centenarians that we were processing death death claims on um I don't recall a time during my career when we had a death claim on a centenary in somebody over the age of 100 That did not have elevated levels of LDL cholesterol at the time of their death because very often these people would die Either in hospitals or Cicicare living facilities and we'd process the death claim in order to get the death claim processed You'd have to know you know day -to -day time location cause of death they'd have to and we'd have to get a death certificate and These people were dying with elevated levels of LDL cholesterol, which you would think well when they have died a lot younger of cardiovascular disease And now the data is starting to come out to support these other metabolic issues like hyperinsulinemia, you know hyper triglyceridemia I you know high blood sugar that these these are villains and that precede cholesterol, you know attaching to the arterial wall And so when we talk about metabolic health we really Shouldn't just isolate LDL cholesterol.

1:13:39We should be looking at our blood pressure, you know our our abdominal obesity our sugars mainly whether or not You know what our fasting blood glucose is what the three -month average of our blood sugar is our hemoglobin A1C Make sure that's below preferably 5 .4 Looking in our insulin because insulin resistance develops a long time before a lot of these things show up And looking at other midflammatory markers like C -reactive protein and just generalized markers of inflammation Because most people are eating a very pro -inflammatory diet And this is why you can't isolate one thing and say seed oils or what's killing Americans you know vaccines or what's killing Americans Illuminum vaccines or you know fluoride and drinking water.

1:14:19It's the cumulative dose toxicity of all of these things um You know our water is toxic and we have fluoride we have chlorines we have pfa's polyfluoroalculs We have microplastics we have bishphenols um, you know, I actually did a test on myself and my entire family I'll call a vibrant wellness test and you Uh, it's a blood and urine test and essentially it tells you whether you got mold microtoxins heavy metals um all of these different things the amount of BPAs in my blood and I am I would consider myself pretty on top of my Diet game the amount of BPAs um There were traces of jet fuel their aflo toxins J -fuel there were traces of jet fuel from all your flying like um Accelerates like uh like aerosol accelerates maybe from flying a fly a lot um my daughter had it in her in her blood too and and and so did my wife and then we and then we all had Very similar species of mold which we which we got rid of and I felt a lot better um and those in your home It was in uh, it was actually in my daughter's apartment We actually ended up having our doctor write a letter and and and break her lease and we moved her into a apartment right next to us and in Coconut Grove in florida But she was starting to have and she's a nurse and she was starting to have these strain symptoms just brain fog her joints were Just killing her um in the morning by the end of the day or ankles were swollen Her mood started to collapse like the peaks and valleys of her mood kind of went away she And she was you know, I was bringing her over to to the house and obviously is the biohack from trying to solve everything So I was like we got to do this fiber on this test medicine We got to figure out what's going on in the bone the mold just jumped off the chart or a younger starter too is suffering from recurrent Sorthroats and you know that viruses and I mean bacteria and And mold have been Mortal enemies for years.

1:16:22I mean think penicillin and bacteria right and So we live in the mold capital the world and very often when you get mold toxicity It doesn't just it's not just a constant infection. It has a latent phase a dormant phase and then and then a sporylating phase And so these these mold infections which a lot of doctors will tell you are complete nonsense Are absolutely valid. I mean there are people that right now that have severe brain fog they have joint pain They have really poor focus and concentration and short -term memory issues. They've got hormone imbalance They've got water retention They got swollen ankles And They cannot really figure it out and they'll do a standard blood test and you don't see this on a standard blood test And when you do something like a vibrant and you look at these This mold toxicity get rid of it and the you see the entire blood panel you know Comes back into The more ranges and they feel amazing just like my my daughter.

1:17:24We did ebio2. We did sauna We did gut binders activated charcoal binders. Hi. Just a glutathione and over the next few weeks. We slowly walked You know this mold right out of her her system But people suffer from this all the time In fact, I've been deep down the rabbit hole of a lot of the Foundations of these autoimmune diseases because in my previous clinic we had 150 160 ,000 patients come through our our clinic system and Nearly everyone That we saw that had an autoimmune disease Was told by their doctor You just woke up one day and your immune system went haywire Right, so you you have Crohn's disease because one day you woke up and your immune system is manufacturing antibodies to your colon or you have hypothyroid because you woke up one morning and and um Your your immune systems manufacturing antibodies to your thyroid.

1:18:23Yeah, now you have Hashimoto's for the lack of more gland in your eye And you have sugar ins or you know your blood you have lupus And we immediately just assume that God made a mistake that the immune system is malfunctioning Instead of a staking taking a step back and saying you know What if actually the immune system is acting properly? What if God didn't make a mistake What if it's attacking the colon for a reason we just have to figure it out And if you just eliminated four things mold mycotoxin heavy metals viruses and parasites just those four categories I believe you would get to the majority of the genesis of Of autoimmune diseases.

1:19:05So you know some of these autopsy studies on multiple sclerosis for example were 100 % positive for certain colonies of helmets um helmets helmets which are parasites and and And these helmet colonies or or the larvae from these were actually in the myelin sheath of 10 of 10 autopsy that they did on multiple sclerosis patients. I'm not by any way Means saying that everybody that has multiple sclerosis has parasitic infection but There are healthy parasites how there's categories of helmets that are very very healthy and some of the underdeveloped countries in the world where actually they have um These healthy parasites which we've wiped out for the large part here They don't get multiple sclerosis or they have very very low incidence of multiple sclerosis and one of the theories is that because we have um We have disrupted the balance of not only bacteria, but parasites in our gods specifically TSO parasites, which are which are healthy parasites that the The pathogenic parasites proliferate and they burrow their their larvae burrow into the myelin sheath and they're part of the genesis of multiple sclerosis My whole point in saying that is if you take any parapathogen.

1:20:24Let's just take this one right here This is it looks like a Donald Trump coin So I don't know if the audience could see this but oh, let's say this was a multiple or microtoxin or this was a heavy metal um or or even a virus and this was a healthy cell You see that they they don't hide like this right metals microtoxins mold You know viruses even in some cases parasites. They don't hide outside of the cell like this. They hide like this And inside the cell inside the cell I mean but when a virus um When the nucleic acid protein of a virus attaches to a cell and injects its DNA That's the way that it takes over that cell.

1:21:03It's kind of like being bitten by the zombie right mean a virus is not a living thing It's an envelope that that's wrapped around DNA But when that envelope attaches to the cell wall and it and it squirts the DNA inside Now the virus has taken over the host cell right so it's inside the cell but the point is that The immune system is not after this. It's not after the cell. It's after this So so how does it how does it get to this It has to kick down this wall It has to break through the cell wall and very often in in order to do that it needs to manufacture an antibody To this cell if you look for example at um I you know for uh Hashimoto's which a lot of people have you know These people have Hashimoto's and they're told okay well You woke up one day and your immune system decided to attack the the uh the thyroid You know you're manufacturing antibodies to your your thyroid and so Well, why is it attacking my thyroid?

1:22:02Well, we don't know. Let's look at your family history. Oh your uh Your mom's sister had it and your dad's brother had it. Oh, you have familial Hashimoto's even though there is no gene For Hashimoto's so you couldn't have inherited it from your ancestor because it now runs in your family You're told that you have a genetically inherited disease and now you have to subscribe to a lifetime of medication Instead of taking a step back and saying well What would have called my immune system to that site and look at the incidence of heavy metal toxicity Mercury poisoning in Hashimoto's and look at the amount of lead in mercury poisoning in in Hashimoto's because the Thyroid has an affinity for heavy metals and very often when they retreat into the thyroid the immune system will chase them there And look at the genesis of a lot of Crohn's disease I mean a lot of Crohn's disease has to do with the disruption of the single cell layer and your gut that allows bacteria Another pathogenic contents that should stay inside The luminal wall of your gut they they they leak out and they they're in an area that they don't belong and the immune system is attacking them there And then we want to hold the immune system responsible for the crime and say hey We're gonna we're gonna rest the police officer um for What this criminal did I mean did Those contents are in areas of the body where they don't belong and so We're gonna put you on an immunosuppressant or we're gonna put you on an anion flammatory Um, and we're actually gonna stop the immune system from protecting you instead of saying What contents could be leaking from my gut that are causing the immune system to light up and you could just keep going through lots of immune diseases like this you know multiple sclerosis a lot of these conditions But mold microtoxins metals parasites.

1:23:44I mean If I was ever told that I had an auto immune disease I would not accept it until I'd done those Kinds of tests interesting. So back to the narrative of HDL and LDL How did it get formed that LDL is the bad cholesterol? Because the majority of people that had high LDL cholesterol also had high other factors going on in their body And just like a lot of these randomized clinical trials we look at things in isolation We study one thing in isolation one of the worst things we do in my opinion in modern science is study Yeah human anatomy or human physiology or biochemistry in isolation So we say we're gonna take a cell out of the body.

1:24:26We're gonna put it in a lab We're gonna look out at behaves in a petri dish And then we're gonna assume then when I put that cell back into the body It's gonna behave the same way And so we didn't solve for all of these other factors. Well, what was the person's um insulin level? What was their fasting glucose? What was their hemoglobin A1c? What were there other inflammatory markers like c -reactive protein creatine phosphokinase? What were there? What were the other lifestyle factors that were going on and what you you'll find is it correlation between high levels of cholesterol and people that have cardiovascular disease but not because of the cholesterol because of all of the diet and lifestyle risk factors that go around it But we can build a multi -billion dollar in fact a trillion dollar industry by just lowering this one biomarker And when we lower this biomarker if that biomarker were directly linked to all cause mortality If it were directly linked to the incidence of of cardiovascular disease then we would see in the population Where we lowered this biomarker we would see an extension of mortality Right because we said this biomarker was high LDL So if we lower it with a satin then we're gonna see an extension of mortality and lo and behold We see no extension of mortality.

1:25:41So how's it continue to be used? Because it's continued to be marketed that way You have to understand that there's there's a box uh that is called the standard of care And and I don't subscribe to the fact that physicians are trying to harm you in fact I have the deepest respect for People that are licensed to practice medicine because I'm not I'm not one of them and and You know they They go through a schooling to learn to practice within something called the standard of care If you're outside of the standard of care you're your Malpractices at risk your reimbursement is at risk your career is at risk So you may very well be doing something that is in your scope of practice But it is outside the standard of care So most physicians will migrate back into the standard of care So even if you go around to a bunch of allopathic doctors and get multiple opinions They'll all be within this box When you jump outside of that box You've got to be talking to somebody who's willing to say okay, you probably have to pay me cash you probably have Uh, you put my malpractice at risk.

1:26:43I don't have malpractice coverage for this type of treatment Not because they're breaking the law But because they're not within the standard of care It's just like when physicians started to prescribe ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine for COVID when it wasn't the standard of care even though there were millions and millions and millions of scripts written for um These pharmaceuticals that were proven to be extraordinarily safe I mean our our doctor used to have to write it for joint pain during COVID Um, so she wouldn't potentially risk her license So What happens is you develop a herd mentality because the system for reimbursement how they get paid the system for coverage How they get malpractice coverage and the system for their career is all dependent on things being inside of a certain box And the standard of care for Someone with elevated LDL cholesterol is to put them on a statin if you don't do that you could be risking your license Mm And why is that the standard of care because pharma dictates that that the standard of care They also dictate the reimbursement rates and so if you look at the study that was done in 2016 by Harvard You know, which determined that medical error was the third leading cause of death Um, I think it was repeated by Hopkins in 2019, but the Harvard Study in 2016 is very clear that The third leading cause of death in America is medical error And when you look into the study for why you know, we're doctors just killing people No, what happened was they looked at ICD -9 ICD -10 ICD -11 codes how they're coding Um, you know the diagnosis of what's happened to you I have to as a doctor I've got to sort of slot you into a diagnostic code so I can get reimbursed and you can get medication and we can all get paid And But if I don't have a diagnosis to slot you into I got to pick sort of the next nearest one And there is no diagnosis or Way for me to be a reimbursed or or to make a living if I go look Joe Your your hemogloin A1C is like 5 .7 your early stage pre -diabetic Um, you know, you've got a little abdominal BCD going on your blood pressure is creeping towards the the high side Your fasting glucose is is is really high.

1:29:06Let's talk about some diet and lifestyle choices Tell me what's going on in your life. What's a typical day of your diet look like you know Can I put you on a treadmill for 25 or 30 minutes? Can I talk to you about intermittent fasting? You know, can I talk to you about things like a whole food diet actually no None of that all of that is outside the standard of care if something happens to you And I haven't practiced within the standard of care I'm at risk And so I think a lot of that is what's really exciting about maha's I think a lot of that is going to begin to change you're going to see Bobby Kennedy and His team Again in my opinion you're gonna see Bobby Kennedy and his team would have which have been empowered to make real change not just getting um You know poison out of our food supply and having the generally regarded as safe guidelines look at Food safety before we put it into the public domain But you're really going to see him go after corruption in our nutritional research corruption in our um In our governmental oversight bodies you know how is it that we can have people that sit in the food and drug administration and regulate private industry and at the end of that regulatory career go in to work for the same industry that they purported to regulate um and sometimes for 10 times what they would make as a As a regulator kind of cookie.

1:30:31It's it's it seems to me like you would get arrested for that in another industry Yeah, right? I mean if you did that in the securities industry uh the banking industry you wouldn't get away with it um and you know 70 North of 70 percent I think the number 74 percent of our nutritional research is funded by private industry, you know we we privatized the profit But we socialize the expense And by this I mean like we we socialize through the tax subsidized medical system Medicaid Medicare The expenses right to the expenses go into the taxpayer But the payments go to private industry so we privatize the profit and we socialize the risk and then the private Industry that benefits from this doesn't even have a fiduciary to the patients that they serve they actually have a fiduciary to the investor They and and they can go to prison for not actually performing for their investor.

1:31:25They can't go to prison for not performing for their Um for their patient. So if I make a pharmaceutical that goes into your body But somebody lent you know invested in my company to make that pharmaceutical my responsibilities to them not to you So now you get harmed. Huh you get harmed I'm I'm held harmless But if I harm him by not selling it to you for the right margin He gets to put me in prison It's it's it's it's mine It's so as backwards. It's so as backwards and it's such an uphill sludge I mean the what what the current administration has to do with what bobby kennedy has to do is sort of re -restructure Decades and decades of what's essentially corruption.

1:32:12Yeah, and there's a there's a lot of people fighting them on it man Oh, I could only imagine because the amount of profit you know when you're talking about these industries The the amount of money they generate is astronomical and they're responsible for So much of the advertising revenue of mainstream media that mainstream media not only will not cover the negative aspects of their drugs But will heavily criticize anyone who tries to go outside the narrative very true And I mean, you know look at this you know this strong kids commission um, you know, it's the idea is um To try to go to schools put physical education back into schools get highly processed foods out of the schools And actually not to fat -cheap kids but to pro body morphec Encourage them like yes, it's okay to not want to be sloppy and out of shape and to call that out And to actually be be physically physically fit and healthy It's not that you have to be there to be Detect the gain status, but it's okay to not want to be fat This episode is brought to you by paramount pictures new film the naked gun There's comedy and then there's the naked gun.

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1:35:17I don't think you should shame people. I don't agree to them However, if someone pulls you aside and says hey, Bobby You're overweight and it's fucking up your health and you know It's it's really bad for you if that makes you feel bad and that feeling bad inspires a change in your lifestyle and your diet and exercise routines and what you do That's positive and sometimes you have to feel bad like someone has to give you an f for you to realize oh my god I'm gonna fail in this class unless I study harder. Yeah Like that's part of life And you can't just cuddle people and expect success. That's not how it works.

1:36:00I totally agree It's one of the most important aspects of athletics because athletics are a very clear It's a very clear formula that the more work you put in the harder you train the more results you'll get As long as you're not overtraining and you know you do correctly If you put it in the effort. Yeah You work hard you will get results and that's that's It's a vehicle for the rest of your life if you can learn that at a young age It's my thing athletics are so important for young people if you can learn that at an early age that the discomfort is Necessary for growth like being tired pushing yourself working out when you don't want to like pushing yourself To the point where your body has to adapt and grow and become stronger Is a part of this process and it's beneficial and through doing that you will actually feel better It is actually a medicine if you could get the way yes if you get the way I feel After I have a heart if I cold plunge have a hard workout getting a sauna stretch out and then go about my day If you could put that in a pill people look like oh my god my new anti -exotic medications is so incredible Yeah, yeah, yeah, doctor.

1:37:15It's so incredible I'm so happy that I went to this doctor because he put me on the right stuff. Yeah that pill if especially if it did all the things That exercise did without exercise It would be the most valuable pill in the world But getting people to feel discomfort voluntarily is so difficult When people have this sedentary lifestyle and this lazy mind and this entitlement that so many people have They feel like the world owes them something yeah instead of I've owed myself I've got to work for myself. I've got to put off These feelings of I've got to delay these feelings of You know relaxation and comfort and delay it And give myself some voluntary discomfort so that it can feel true piece.

1:38:05Yeah, I actually trademarked the statement aging is the aggressive pursuit of comfort By the way, if you want to use that just use it. I won't see you But also aging actually aging. It's part of it too aging is the aggressive pursuit of comfort And if you think about that for a minute it truly is the more aggressively we see comfort the faster we age It's like we really got to stop telling grandma not to go outside. It's too hot. Not to go outside is too cold Just something really aging right? It's just duration. It's deterioration. Yeah, you're gonna add Your muscles will atrophy your bone density will decrease your ligaments and your tens will see comfort.

1:38:44Yeah, I mean when has a cold Prunge and not sucked Every day it sucks. I don't want to do every day while I'm doing it There's my little inner bitch. Let's try to talk to you out of it My little inner bitch has a little whispery voice though. It's like, you know, you don't really want to do this You don't need to do this again. So maybe you could just go eat care -rich and successful Yeah, you don't have to do this But thankfully the general the general is what I call the one part of my brain that I try to keep the most dominant That where I tell myself shut the fuck up shut up stupid get in there.

1:39:20Yeah, this is not this is I hear Avoidable get in there. I hear David Goggins in my In my head like you know like shut up you pussy get that get that Cold punch. He's like what does he say don't negotiate with yourself? My my son and I went went on this race called a great world race, which is seven marathon seven continents in seven days and And I did a couple of half marathons and one full marathon, but he did all seven marathons on all seven continents in seven days How banged up was he but then the seven days? Yeah, he was two This was in November. So he's 24 now. He's 23 at the time. So it's like five months ago and I guess a 23 you kind of feel like you can't be killed by bullet Turns out by Cartagena.

1:40:10He was he was feeling it, but um But we took the David Goggins book with us and we read like I was reading like a chapter out of it every every day but um it was a crazy experience because So my son Cole and myself and my my uh Carraman my production guy went with us And initially I'm like this is so awesome We're gonna see all seven continents in seven days. We're gonna see Antarctica Dubai the third marathon I I I was in Just I was so exhausted and so and so much pain And I'd only done like half marathons when we got off the got off the flight in Antarctica Um every all the all the racers go out and start running and I had these big Timberland boots on and big puffy jacket I was just sitting at the start line just was gonna wait for my son And um I was the race director.

1:41:01I'm like how how long are these loops? He's like well um There's six point whatever miles and uh and there's four of them and uh I was like I could easily do one of these So I just started running What a four in the Timberlands and in the in these size 14 Timberlands Dude Which I which I immediately regretted because then the snow starts caking to the um To the bottom my Timberland so I ended up actually marching and not really running And it was so funny because my my my son has these spikes on so of course he laps me and he comes by he's like Dad What the fuck are you doing out here? I thought I'd give it a whirl so I actually made three loops so I got 18 miles.

1:41:44Oh wow. He ran the whole 26 .3 Then you get on the plane and then you fly five and a half hours in economy sitting up like this Right you fly five and a half hours and you land in Cape Town south africa and you get off the plane and immediately run another marathon and it's balls hot um and and then you we Packed up and from that marathon so now these marathons were only like five and a half hours six hours apart So now you've done two marathons of 24 hours one and an article one into heat south africa and then it was like 11 hours to perth Australia um And I ran another half there he ran a full full marathon there um and then you're done in perth Australia And you pack up with fluid istunball And the cool thing about istunball is you could you could run on on The Asian side and then run on the European side so this was like the only night we got to stay into an hotel room and actually take a shower and so we get to istunball and um And the marathon was supposed to be Along this warf it was like supposed to be it's it's it's it's pitch black at night um it's The the dock is all broken on part, you know This is big huge cracks in the sidewalk and it was 26 .3 miles along this warf only the thing was we were told that they were gonna get all the fishermen off the wall And so it was lines and lines and lines of these guys fishing at night and it would take the oh boy And they would snap the hooks forward and So we get there when we're like This is way too freaking dangerous and I guess the the Company that they had hired to clear all these fishermen just took their took their money and and said the whole course was gonna be lit um found out the course wasn't lit so then you had to wear the the headlamps and So took them like an hour around 20 minutes to clear all these fishermen But then we started running and we ran with those uh, you know those headlights on um And if you've ever been in the pitch black and you've just watched that light bounce in front of your eyes For I don't know how my son did it um because I ran for like an hour and a half and I was like it to fuck this I have nothing to prove you know I'm 53 I'm gonna be 54 I'm like Um, I'm already run a few half marathons.

1:44:07I feel really good So he ran the entire thing and I joined him For a bunch a bunch of labs, but finally he just ripped the thing off his head because that light shaken in front of your Eyes for four hours at a time pretty soon you just start to go batty and then you you go to sleep the next day You run in the asian side then it was 19 hours to Cartagena and um About a third of the athletes drank uh the water with the ice or ate the salad that was washed in the water from oh no And the worst monosumas revenge Joe you could ever imagine oh no like a third the plane wakes up Six or seven hours into this 19 -hour flight Just puke and both ends oh boy Lines outside the bathroom lines outside the bathroom.

1:44:56You're butthole shut trying to get in there Featime people lay it in the in the galley's just throwing up into the trash cans. Oh No And I swear by the time we had laid him I started lost so much weight and he was just in the and then we had a host We get to the hotel room which you you actually didn't get to spend the night We we got to the hotel room just to change and he's in there just puke and You know crap and Finally gets his race gear on we go downstairs and like half half of the athletes are Who like look like they're on their deathbed and because we relate to Cartagena the race goes off at like 12 30 in the afternoon 12 o 'clock in the afternoon It's frickin 98 degrees maybe 100 degrees 90 % humidity It is the hottest flattest most unforgiving course And I remember turning into my production but head of my production team this max and um And I was like max there is zero chances finishing this marathon Because he'd already started about 208 210 pounds and he was probably 190 by this time And um and so I pull up next to my son and I was like look man if you don't give up on this race You know I won't give up on you and I Sincerely regretted that it's like mile 16 or 18 Saying that I would run the whole race with him because everything in I've never run a marathon So for that day Everything in my entire body hurt Joe like like I wasn't so much pain from the waist down that I think I was just completely numb And he was just going from port of body to port of body puke and shitton puke and shitton puke and shitton And um I was having these sentimental moments where I was like man So so happy to be out here with you dude like this is we're gonna look back on this one day and wish we were back here And he was like looking be a good dad Sheldon fuck up No quiet down for like another 30 or 40 minutes and then I get sentimental again And he'd tell me to shut the fuck up again We ended up finishing the race though.

1:47:01I don't know how I don't know how he did it He's just a little ounces of coconut water for that entire car to hang your race And then we had to get on the plane and fly to Miami and to run the seventh one which I didn't do he did But I don't even know why I brought that up, but crazy crazy crazy moment There were these women that were running this race a kid you not that they had monosimals revenge so bad That they would leave the race course and run into the the bay that we were running beside and just Shit themselves in the bay and then get back out and keep running on us and the guy that set the world record I'm in Antarctica Left the course in an ambulance in Cartagena.

1:47:40Wow. It was insane man My friend camhains when he was preparing for one of those ultra runs when you run for three days like 240 miles He was running a marathon a day While he was working in eight hour job. He was running a marathon a day a marathon a day. Yeah, wow. Yeah There's a guy right now in Bahrain um Staying with shake nasser who's the who's the one of the sons of the king of Bahrain and He is running a 150 full -distance triathlons in a hundred and fifty days when I was there he was on 59 I kid you not it's amazing the body's potential if you just continue to push it the thing about cam as cam Had been running for so long for so many years that he had this incredible base his base of cardio He was used to doing ten ways like what's seventy one sixty?

1:48:35That's kind of big for that. Yeah Well his son is even fucking crazier his son just broke the world record in pull -ups in 24 hours in pull -ups. Yeah, I think he did 10 ,000 in one and 24 hours 10 ,000 in one ten thousand. So he had broke though So goggins had a record he broke goggins record and then some cat house, Australia. He's young. He's like 25 He's an animal too. That's him and he runs with jeans on by the way. Why just for a fucking goof He runs with origin jeans. Have you ever used those stretchy jeans that origin makes? I think I had right. They're basically sweatpants. I don't know if I run a marathon in them.

1:49:16They're basically sweatpants They give you no resistance. Yeah, you can kick somebody in the head with them easy gift to dough Like you could tell that stride like he's just well. He's been living in the fucking animal his whole life So he he came in seventh place in the Austin marathon and he has not built like a marathon guy He's jacked. Yeah, he definitely is. I mean obviously one the world pull -up championship or world pull -up record He is where I got one of the ideas to carry a lot of weight for like like when I do 150 pounds of pull -ups Oh, is that what he does? So what he did he did this thing where I think It's a mile like see if you can find it So he's carrying a sandbag and I believe he has a weight vest on as well And I think the overall weight is over 200 pounds and he goes over a mile with over 200 pounds.

1:50:06Oh Just just just see if you can find it just walking like on a truck I'm going short distances when I'm carrying heavy weight, but what I'm trying to do is You know Peter Tia talked about this too like the importance of the ability to carry weight and walk with it And then there's this guy talking about the the centenary into catholon. Yeah And then there's this guy in Australia who's like an incredible freak his name is Tom Havalan and he's an enormous guy He's like six foot seven Close these three hundred pounds. I just close to four hundred right isn't he like closing on four hundred pounds and he's musking Jack Jack and one of the things that he does is a part of his He does like very unusual workout routines But see if he can find some videos on that's what he looks like.

1:50:55I mean just a fucking complete freak But he does too. Yes enormous guy too. I mean he's a huge guy But he does a lot of his workouts are not just like normal dead lifts bench press all that kind of shit Some of his workouts he does Carries things like he carries things like off one side or another side go to his Instagram so I can pick one There's a lot of these are just mostly you see just his back. Why why I don't know. He's a psychopath Yes, be out of his fucking mind just to be doing this because he's one literally one of the strongest guys in the world Really yeah, does he participate in like strong man?

1:51:34I don't think he does. I think he just does all this shit on his own and I don't even understand why So what is he way now? 32 pounds He drinks he eats 6 ,570 calories a day. Yeah, and 3200 and no excuse me 329 grams of protein 814 grams of carbs 222 grams of fat and so he was and that's the current phase which is a deficit. Yeah, this was him on his way to So go back to that Yeah, so he's at 340 pounds. I think he was trying to get to 400 pounds at one point in time Hmm, but one of the things he does a lot is carry stuff And so I started looking into this idea like what what what is it? What's the big deal about carrying and walking with stuff?

1:52:25So he does this like how much weight is that motherfucker got Carrying around with them. Hmm. How many lights is that? I mean 500 pounds. What is that one two three four five 10 plates, so it's so around yeah, and so he's just walking short distances with this So I started doing that in my yard So I started doing it with farmers carries and you know when I rock I just use the 45 pound plate when I go a couple miles with the dog What's with the back? I mean, why isn't he? He says the fucking psychopath Why is he have all clothes on too because if he takes the clothes off he's super impressive Man, he takes a shirt.

1:53:03Yeah, he's fucking ripped. I mean the guy's enormous I forget his background. Yeah, that's him. That's what he looks like dude Yeah, and again, he's like six seven or something crazy like that built that way But he does a lot of carrying stuff and walking stuff He feels like it's very important for like you're overall strength I think I would agree with that not just to be able to sit there and push stuff and do squats in place But to move with things where you're balancing and counterbalancing moving left foot right foot left foot right foot Yeah, and I think there's real benefit to that. I like to I like to single arm You know farmer carry.

1:53:44Yes, it makes a lot of sense. Yeah, I'm just trying to stabilize your spine Yeah, I'll do that with like a set of two kind of well And I'll just like walk up a hill with a 70 pound kettlebell and I can't get very far before I have to put it down because my grip gives out But I won't use straps because I think I really want to do it like I've been doing a lot of I carry this fuck around with me too Because we have this thing in the um comedy club where it's uh like one of those Strengths we squeeze it has a counter. Yeah, and I got to 161 pounds of whole strong you can squeeze as the horse ever got and so I want to get to 180 So I've been I've been squished just just grip strength just hold nut motherfucker all the time You got to you got to needy pause them bro.

1:54:25Yeah, it's pretty good Yeah, just hold it motherfucker I feel like hands just get angry hand nut I do I like to get angry if I can But hand strength I think is very important. Yeah, most of my work talks about grip strength and it's very important I do a lot of hanging too. I do a lot of hanging from my back of my shoulders too. Just hang from a chin up bar Oh, yeah, that's good. I'll only get you dead hang two minutes. Okay. I'm just just about there myself Yeah, I put those weighted vests on and and uh that's a good way to do it. Yeah, we'll wait invest for short bursts Yeah, I'll take like a 12 pound weighted a on vest and and and I don't think You could do it with a rock but but I do those those 12 pound a on vest and I just hang Like this this is the one of one of them too.

1:55:12This one's about 12 pounds But yeah, I do one series of all body weight workouts where I do chin ups push ups and then L chin L I guess you would be pull ups Where where it's a tight grip and you know by L meaning I lift my legs up Yeah, hold them in position and I Saldeno's got me doing that now. So I do that Most of the time with no Extra weight but like two times a month. I'll do it with 25 pounds So I put a 25 pound vest on and do my entire routine with long Like a rock vest. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's actually from go rock. It's a 25 pound. It's like a like a you know Just strap it in velcro it down And so I'll do my series of 10 chin ups my series of 20 20 dips And then 10 L L pull ups and I'll do that You're talking like the L sits where you're holding the bars and you just put your feet straight out Those are but I'm not for them.

1:56:09They look but I'm not holding the bar down here. I'm doing chin ups Oh chin ups, okay, so I'm doing the L like this and then I'm doing these with my foot straight out So it's the abs. It's like I'm just trying I've had like a problem with my lower back and I think A lot of it came from I know where it came from it came from archery Where I was spending too much time Pulling one side only and then also I was getting a little bit of tendonitis and I was just saying fuck it Just working through try to shoot both sides with your bow now No, but what I do now is because my bow is pretty heavy. It's 85 pounds to pull it back But I'm doing it like when I'm really training hard looking at it's getting close to September I'm probably shooting a hundred times a day Some a hundred times I'm pulling back 85 pounds.

1:56:55So now what I do and I learned this from cam I take a ten pound dumbbell and I hold it with my right because I pull my bow with my right arm So I put a ten pound dumbbell with my right arm and hold it out and then with my left arm I have a cable like a cable machine and I'm pulling back the same I'm mimicking the exact same motion of archery I say hold it and can't can't do this in a gym on a on a yes Like with just a handway so I'm holding it like that and then I'm using the pulley and I'm pulling the cables back And I'm holding it for a counter two and then bring it back holding it for a counter two and bring it back So I'm balanced out balancing out my back.

1:57:36Are you a left ear right? So your right is that's where you're holding your bow So my right arm I'm pulling back and holding the bow with my left arm to stabilize it and pulling it back with my right arm So now to counter that I immediately go to the gym right after one of the things I'm noticing is like Boy, I get fucking so sore on my left side now because this is a fairly recent I've only been doing this for a couple months The left side to stabilize it But I think I should have been doing it the entire time and because I was getting like really bad lower back pain last hunting season And it was just because of tendons I was just overusing you because you're stabilizing right so you're pulling back the bow and you're holding it in place and you're Stabilizing on your right side and after your your form kind of breaks down plus all that you get a little tired Now I just when my feeling I form breaking down I stop I just stop shooting So instead of shooting a hundred times a day now maybe I'll shoot 30 or 40 and I just stop I won't push because it's a meathead mentality that I my stupid brain like won't Abandon even though I know it's like injuring me.

1:58:42Yeah, but this this is it had it actually had became a problem And it was hurting me when I was playing pool and I did a bunch of things to deal with it One of the things I did is this thing called new fit where they put which helped a lot where they put electrodes On your muscles and then you go through a series of core routines while you're doing that that helped a lot That's cool. And then incorporating rotational exercises helped a lot so I have like a like a golf bar now I have a bar like a straight bar And I'll put like my right leg forward and I'm so I've got it the bar back on the right side and I'm twisting forward So I'm doing that so a lot of rotational exercises and I'm also twisting up You know, and I'm doing a bunch of different things to twist the another thing I do is I sit On a pad with my legs elevated and I have a kettlebell and I'll Twisted to the side with my legs up in the air So I'm getting all this rotational exercises in to my system now that I didn't used to do before but I Really should have been doing from the beginning.

1:59:43I always did abs. You know, I always did You know the hip glute thing where you're you lean all the way back. Yeah, GHD sit up. Yeah, so yeah So I do I used to do a lot. Yeah, those are good. I still do a lot of those. Yeah, and then back extensions, but I wasn't doing rotational stuff and I think that's the difference When you actually went went went this hunting season for you December September Oh September. Yeah, I'm where do you go like Utah or Wyoming? Yeah, the photo that you're asking about out front That's Utah. No, that's Utah. Yeah, it's that's beautiful And you got for like a week and you just gorgeous.

2:00:17Love it. Yeah, somebody's wrong. It's just so lovely Everything about it was great. It's just like look forward to it so much. That's why I love the mountains like You know, honestly, I think our long -term plan is to we got a beautiful place in Miami is to Is to sell that place and get a spot? I mean, it's continued to develop our spot in Colorado because there's something about these authentic log cabins glacier fed spring water will in septic you know solar fed electricity. Yeah, like just old school I mean it makes you so happy and I totally agree with you. I wish I wish that people could feel what that Feeling is like and they wouldn't chase a lot of other well I think there's also some intangible Input that you're getting from society that you're not thinking about but that affects you That's absent when you're in the woods and you feel refreshed because it's a connection to mother nature I mean it's a connection to life.

2:01:12It is But I also think the absence of societies a thing. I think I mean this is going to sound super kooky But I think even Wi -Fi and cell phone signals. I think they have an effect on you I don't know how much of an effect I'll tell you a story of a true story about um, so I'm my house. We have this uh Wheat my wife and I sleep in an emf free tent. I went a little nuts with the pile hacking here. So sleeping at 10 you know, so Every night we have these every every night that we're home in Miami. So it's a PVC frame, you know, it's like Five and a half feet tall six foot tall little frame. It's just PVC.

2:01:50It's dirt cheap And then draped over top of it is pure woven silver Favre so it looks like a mosquito net that's over our king's us bad and in the back of our bed Eclipse into this grounding mattress which plugs into the wall. So the whole cage is grounded Um, and there's no 5g no wide five right there. James got a photo of it. Oh, that's exactly it That is literally exactly yet. I wonder if they're So that I wonder if you push you from hearing him out his bed in there if it would show it because I put it on Is that what you do? That's exactly what we sleep in exactly that emf shielding canopy.

2:02:24See this is like kooky This is where you and I know this is what I know I try to bring that up my wife and smack me dude I also have a hyperbaric chamber in our bedroom. I have a hyperbaric chamber in the bedroom. No in my house. Oh, okay Um, I've got my podcast studio inside of one now inside of a hyperbaric chamber inside of a hyperbaric chamber How big is your hyperbaric chamber? Huge. It's got two Maybok seats in it. It's got like a 52 inch or 54 inch TV It's got three AI powered cameras. My gym is in the hyperbaric too But so here's a thing I have a roer and weights like a whole set of weights and there's a risk of using electronics and a high oxygen environment You don't use a high oxygen environment.

2:03:02You know never and I don't think there's any reason to go in a high 100 % Oh, two chamber. I mean none of my chambers will go to 100 % Oh, so none of them are flammable You could have a candle inside of there. Oh, I don't suggest it But you're good. They will tell you to not even wear certain kinds of clothes in the hyperbaric Yeah, because if you have a hundred percent Oh, too, you can have static electricity and can light a spark and it can explode So what is a hundred percent Oh, too versus like what you're doing? So you have to actually put medical grade oxygen into the chamber, which I don't do But you don't so the one that I used to go to they would give you a mask and you would wear the mask and oxygen We get pumped into your mask while you're in the hyperbaric chamber Yeah, so that's also not flammable.

2:03:40That's probably 92 93 % Oh, too Pure oxygen 100 % oxygen is flammable Just like pure hydrogen gases flammable right so 100 % Oh, too is flammable I mean that terrible accident that happened to that young boy In the Midwest here recently where the hyperbaric chamber actually exploded what happened? Yeah, I mean this a young I think it was five and a half year old little boy Was in a hyperbaric chamber and very sadly the technician left him in there didn't ground him um and And he had a blanket in there with him and he moved the blanket and this static electricity You know caught 100 % Oh to oh exploded his mother was injured too.

2:04:21Oh my god I want to say that the both of the the nurse and doctor in the clinic are being charged with with manslaughter Terrible, but the the Those are 100 % Oh two chambers. It's clear. It means Important just to make the distinction that these 100 % oxygen chambers. I mean these are these are Bombs and why would you have a hundred percent Oh two chamber versus what you talk about? So if you look at some of the therapeutic benefits for things like diabetic ulcers burns Things like that where um, you know necrosis tissue necrosis um those make sense in a supervised hospital environment with You know someone standing right outside the chamber the entire time I've been I've been in one one time and place called bio accelerator and Medigene Columbia and But the the home use chambers where you get a prescription from your doctor and you actually get it to probably what you have Is yours a soft shell no chamber.

2:05:20It's a hard shell. Oh, okay, so that'll probably go to two atmospheres of pressure That's really good um So doctorate insiders who wrote the book hyperberecumenticent with dr. Meetree Um will tell you there's a lot of benefits at low pressures like 1 .3 atmospheres Which you can get in a soft chamber and there are a lot of benefits at higher pressures like Two atmospheres so I never go above two atmospheres twice the atmospheric pressure If you think about what's happening to twice the atmospheric pressure You're taking the oxygen from the air which is about 21 % sea level what we're breathing right now And you're doubling that because you're doubling the pressure so every 33 feet you go below sea level you double the atmospheric pressure um So when you get to two atmospheres of pressure you're you're essentially taking in Twice as much oxygen the oxygen concentration has an increase but the size The uh gas has gotten smaller so now you're profusing tissues with oxygen that they that normally wouldn't Uh be as profused with oxygen you can also put on the nasal canulus and get 92 93 % O2 but that's also not flammable if you took a nasal canulus from uh from an oxygen concentrator like one that works for your e -wad or something and you let a lighter in front of it Would that that gas is not going to catch fire?

2:06:37Okay 100 % O2 Is is is flammable and very dangerous to what's the benefit of 100 % O2 Just a higher concentration of oxygen for things like you know diabetic ulcers when you have um uh anaerobic bacterial infections um meaning bacterial infections that Do not Drive on oxygen Uh, you have to be careful with aerobic bacteria because there are bacteria that actually feed on on oxygen as well And so you don't want to put somebody who has an aerobic infection into a hyperbaric chamber You want to put somebody as an anaerobic infection into a hyperbaric chamber But what's really interesting is you know some of the research that's coming out of um Israel especially on cognitive function um using 60 days at Two emis fears of pressure and then reducing the pressure over time um You know the the improvement in mitochondrial density The improvement in blood flow cognitive scoring reduction of neural inflammation um, and I know uh you can't say treat or cure but they they use these to modulate autism All kinds of neural inflammatory conditions Parkinson's Alzheimer's Uh, which is really linked to type type 30 diabetes which is insulin resistance in the brain But the the byproduct of that is this neural inflammatory cascade So reducing neural inflammation um, you know, there are a lot of benefits to hyperbaric I mean tissue recovery post -surgical room repair post -surgical recovery You know these these things have Pretty profound and not even that study out of Israel that showed the lengthening of telemears when they did a protocol of 60 sessions Yes 90 -minute sessions over 90 days.

2:08:26Yes 60 days or 60 sessions in 90 days 60 sessions in in 90 days 60 90 -minute sessions in 90 days you're right. Yeah, Dr. Sainius talked about that a lot too And they showed a telemere lengthening which was the biological equivalent of a decrease of age or 20 years Yeah, it's a chromosome link cap um, and if you think about it I have a saying that that you know the presence of oxygen is the absence of disease And I truly believe that because if you look at to break down in mitochondrial respiration Which occurs when you deprive the mitochondria of all kinds of things but mainly of oxygen Which is our fuel source, you know, which is not not our fuel sources humans our fuel source is ATP But the fuel source for the mitochondria's mainly oxygen And when you feed at oxygen you have a 16 -fold step up in cellular energy when you deprive it of oxygen You have a 16 -fold step down in cellular energy, right?

2:09:26I mean the difference between aerobic and anaerobic respiration or the creb cycle having the presence of oxygen or not having the presence of oxygen is a pretty substantial number and so hyperbarics Because they allow for compressed oxygen even if you don't increase the percentage of O2 Right, you take it you keep it at 21 % like we're breathing right now But you just double the atmospheric pressure I mean the the effects are pretty pretty profound And I believe there is a low if you have a physician you understand how to operate the chamber and you have safety procedures And you're not using 100 % O2 and you're you're at shallow depths.

2:10:06You can ascend quickly without Being in trouble if you're a diver you understand dive tables you have to ascend at certain rates and pause at certain levels So the one that That I I built I was like man how do I just compress time? I'm like well, I'm gonna work out. So what if I was able to put the gym in there And I'm gonna do a podcast I remember the guy thought I was out of my freaking body First I'll talk it does sound crazy. Yeah, but it's got it It's got a Nordtrak rower in there and how big is it weight like the size of this room? It's pretty big. Let's see if I can show you a picture of it That would be a great way to like Compressed time because you feel more than one thing out of the same time you feel I feel amazing getting out of my son working in it Wow That's crazy.

2:10:54That's my son Dylan. We went in there working out in a hyperbaric chamber And you could kind of watch Netflix in there too. Yeah, you got a screen in there and everything Wow, and It's got Just jamming some music And then he does the Yes So his favorite was playing some rap music I got a soundbar in there. That's pretty dope. Yeah, it was pretty cool. That's awesome Yeah, I just laid down in mine and listen to books um Well, I've the the other one you can lay down in it's it's got these seats that recline It's got a television in it too. So you can I go in there watching news sometimes. Oh, that's great Yeah, my wife and Dario goes in there and they just take it now.

2:11:38I was talking to Dana about it like how beneficial it is like how much time is it take? I'm like it's about two hours and he's like I don't know that fucking time I know everything you got to do something you doing the red light Yeah, that's trying to compress time. Yeah, just like if you could get the high you know the hydrogen into the cold top I mean he's gonna be he's gonna be at my my house tomorrow. So we're gonna try that how much of those little bombs for the bath the hydrogen bombs Uh, I know they're about to come out with them. I don't know if you can order them on the site yet. I think they're probably gonna be if it's if it's 30 bucks for 30 of those H2 tabs Then I would imagine they're gonna be around five or ten bucks um ten bucks for hydrogen bomb to drop into the that's right to the bathtub.

2:12:20I mean the machine is You know, I was actually originally gonna order this um Electrol system called a cocoon um or it's spelled cake when like the facility out in Las Vegas Which makes oxygen water that system's like a hundred and ten thousand dollars And then a buddy of mine Tyler LeBaron who's the PhD in the space Told me about this machine I could order from Korea for $7500, which is the one that I have now And now um, I've added a nano bubble machine Um, and that one's just incredible. I mean for for this transdermal inflammation and I think for for people that have Like you know chronic injuries especially like chronic repetitive use injuries Are they have a real severe low back pain or they've got parents or something that are deconditioned You know that to have a hard time um Exercising you know these are these are You know great things to to do to lower their inflammatory calcium You know that and um there's something called e -watt exercise with oxygen therapy Which is kind of based on auto -warburg's research where and I do this with my parents because both of my parents are deconditioned My mom has dual knee replacements and my dad's handicapped from a boating accident years ago Um, he has no cognitive impairment, but he has some motor coordination difficulties So it's hard for him to really exercise and um, I I I both have a sauna and I put them both in a sauna for 20 minutes three times a week and they just breathe like board a hole and they just breathe through a nasal cannulus the 92 93 % 02 Which is a version of e -watt the exercise with oxygen therapy or the multi -step oxygen therapy because if you just Can raise their heart rate just you know a little bit with the heat Then that extra profusion pressure really drives oxygen into the tissues and I'll tell you it's a noticeable change in them Just like when you get out of a cold plunging that a really good workout Well, imagine you know, you're elderly in your decondition You know, you really don't get your heart rate up.

2:14:22You don't really don't get your good sweat on But you go into a a sauna raise your heart rate and breathe some of that 92 93 % 02 They They feel amazing getting out of there This is a kind of important thing to talk about because there was a study that was released recently that showed That when people use the cold plunge after workout you see a decrease in hypertrophy. Yeah, of course you do Yeah, this is a horrible study, right? What I was just pissed off to see that as people you're told you doesn't work all these Pussies that don't want to get in that cold water folks you do the cold before Yes, this is the way to do it.

2:14:56I know it sucks Do the cold before you work out or wait several hours after you work out and then you cold plunge right? I totally agree. I mean if you think about what you get from cold punching. Let's not overblow it or under blow it I mean, but you know you get um Well, first of all if you if you exercise intensely, let's just say you did a big squat workout and you tore a bunch of quad muscle What's gonna happen? What's the body gonna do? Yeah, the body's gonna send more blood flow more amino acids More more oxygen to those muscles. It's gonna pull inflammatory factors like pre -gatenine, you know the the breakdown The byproduct of muscle breakdowns gonna pull that out.

2:15:36So why would you want to say it's creatinine? creatinine Creatine is right right right right. I never knew how to say that word though. I've seen it Yeah, which is actually very good for yeah So because I know there was a fighter. There's actually pulled from a fight once because he had high creatinine levels Yeah, that's a kidney issue A sign of rabdo myitis right over training. Yeah, so that happens is he was a psycho Yeah, you start to break down so so creatinine is is a byproduct muscle breakdown It's perfectly normal to have creatinine in a blood, but when it gets very high So there's usually three markers they look at for kidney Health one is called blood urea nitrogen bun one is called creatinine this breakdown of muscle byproduct and rabdo is When your muscles start to break down at a rate you that your kidneys can't clear it a lot of people that go too hard Where they're not in shape like they dig too many crossfit classes they get rabdo.

2:16:34Yes, they get rabdo And what's interesting is you know a lot of a lot of athletes really conditioned athletes get it too Because they have a tendency to be mentally a melod stronger than their bodies That's the problem that mead head mentality that I was talking about the lead to me having this tendon issue in my lower back Yeah, because I was worried that it was a disc issue But it's not in the disc. It's like right here on the right hip area where it's like the stable rising muscle But you so you think about it. Okay, so the the blood urea and then there's something on egfr which is your kidney filtration rate Right, which is the glomerular filtration rate.

2:17:10It's how quickly is the blood moving through your kidneys Because about 15 times every day the full volume of your blood goes through your kidneys When you think about what happens when you get into a cold punch So first you get this peripheral vasoconstriction Then you get a A release of something called cold shock proteins And if you ever really want to have some fun just google around about cold shock proteins Look at lint 28a and lint 28b These are cold shock proteins that are being actually researched for their impact on insulin sensitivity improving insulin sensitivity um And then you know you activate a very special type of fact called brown fat Which essentially exchanges a calorie for a measure of heat so it takes a calorie and turns it into heat And that's a very good thing if I'm taking calories and turning them into heat You know there's a cost to raising your thermostat and you think if you're in let's say 50 degree water And you get out 50 degree water and you're standing in a 70 degree room How's your body go to 98 .6 right?

2:18:12How do you actually jet not only How do you exceed the the temperature of the room you're in? Well your Tabletism is raised largely because of the activation of brown fat. There's a cost to that cost is calories so anybody tells you that Not cold plunging is not good for Burning fat. I think is missing the The breath of the of the science and then the final thing you get is you get this spike a dopamine Which lasts hours. Yeah, and that's where you get that like laser focus. I feel freaking amazing Did you're never in bad mood getting out of a cold point right? That's another thing that if you could give that to people in a pill they'd be like oh my god I found the best antidepressant.

2:18:49Yeah That's a cold punch so true Well one thing is beneficial though post workout is sauna right In the official from the muscle growth thermica. Yes, and also as a static cardio correct because your heart rates are already elevated I like to go in literally the moan. I put the weights down. I get right into that 196 degrees on that 20th minutes tough. No bro. Oh the 25th minutes even tough. Oh you go The last five I used to get to the 20 and I'd be like okay finally and then the fucking general started talking no Yeah, come on pussy five more minutes Come on And the thing is too when I'm in the sauna.

2:19:27I'm not just sitting there. I'm Hard stretching. I do deep stretches, which is exhausting too because it's it's hard to do You know, I'm holding like deep static stretches. You're pretty flexible. Yeah, yeah, pretty flexible That's so good. That's because I keep it. I mean I'm 57. I keep my flexibility. Yeah, yeah, going this on a post You know a lot of people as they get older they lose that flexibility and I think that's another thing that I actually If I'm criticizing myself, I didn't do enough of before I started fucking my lower back up Lower backs pretty solid now though It's not it's still like irritates me sometimes when I wake up in the morning But it's nothing that stops me from doing anything.

2:20:07I can still kick the bag Which is that was the big one like because there's so much torque involved in the way. Yeah when you're kicking the bag And I hate not being able to do that So the fact that I can still get those workouts in is really huge for me That is the absolute best stress reliever in the history of kicking bags of mother earth Yeah, hitting a bag put put some 16 ounce gloves on set a timer and start doing rounds on the bag start slow and you know What do you we started like 30 seconds a minute? Three minute rounds. I do three minutes rounds and then one minute rest three minute rounds one but but the first few rounds while I'm warming up I'm just kind of tap and I'm like I'm just I'm not full blast in it But then around round four when I'm really sweating and then I start to dig in and then why do What I do is I have two different timers In one of them I have his ringside timer that will give you these 30 second Like dings so to give you three minutes, but it gives a different sound that goes off and at 30 seconds And so that's life you know you're halfway through the minute.

2:21:14No, so you know when to sprint So you have sprinting times and then you have other times where you're sort of coasting and then the number goes off in the sprint And then I'll also do tabatas and so tabatas that protocol is 20 seconds work 10 seconds rest So I do that protocol my favorite way to do that one is actually on the airdine So I have that all that airdine. Yeah, the rogue machine is the best it's called the echo bike The rogue is like may they make this it's such a sturdy Fucking rock solid piece of equipment. You mean you can really And dig in yeah, it's a rogue one though. They call it the echo bike Yeah, some of them there get a picture of the rogue one It's much sturdier than the other ones that I've seen and so I do and it has tabata built into the system So you do that so brittle.

2:22:03Yeah, so it's eight Eight reps of this so 22nd sprint 10 second rest 20 second sprint eight 10 second rest you do that for eight a series of eight so that's the rogue one It's real thick and robust and you go fucking ham on that's called the echo bike. Yeah, it's for me The best way to increase my cardio that tabata protocol. I don't know some guy named tabata invented that protocol But um, what is that uh treadmill to wait Yeah, oh the hit treadmill. Yeah, that's great too Yeah, I order one. Oh you walk in with way. Yeah, so it's like a farmer's carry exactly But you're going uphill on a treadmill Yeah, let's go let's go it's all about work, you know getting your body to Slowly build up to more and more work make sure you take a mineral salts when you do.

2:22:57Oh, I take a lot of shit Yeah, I'm what do you take while you use element? You know that? Yeah, element T. Yeah, that stuff So I put a bar I'm addicted to that chili mango flavor. Oh, it's so good. Oh, Valenti. Oh, it's spicy a little bit Touch just touch a spice I really like it So I'll have like a 64 ounce water with four of those poured into it and 64 ounces. Yeah, and so I'm just hammering it So but that's made a giant impact in cramps. I don't get cramps anymore Yeah, a lot of people think that you know Sodium is It's funny how many people think sodium is the enemy there's really interesting more old shit like the car like the cholesterol bullshit Like there's so many people like wait.

2:23:41Oh, you're sodium you're gonna have a high blood pressure gonna die Yeah, all your cholesterol from your carnivore diet you're gonna die And so like rich come work out with me. You'll die. Yeah, you'll die Just one leg kick. Yeah, I mean with the workout. Yeah, it's fun I take people through my workout. I love taking people through it because I've done it for so long that it's it's so hard But I've built my system up to be able to tolerate it So when I bring people and even people that work out to like Jesus Christ like this is a lot shit like yeah Yeah, how long do you work out 90 minutes? It's at least 90 minutes.

2:24:17Yeah. Yeah, yeah Yeah, cuz I I do what's called mean what I'm not doing endurance training I do the strong first protocol. So Pavle Totsiline he developed this kettlebell protocol where So a lot of people like to work to failure I don't work to failure ever but I do the same amount of reps So like say if I have a 70 pound kettlebell right and I'm doing cleans and presses if I can do I could probably you 20 reps to failure You're pulling it just you're trying to talk about all the way up. Why not so clean? I want our cab ball swing press. Yeah down Clean press. Yeah, if I go to failure. I don't know I probably could do like 20 reps with 70 pounds, but I don't do 20 reps I do 10 and then I put it down and then I wait like Several minutes and then I'll do my left side and then I wait several minutes more and then I'll do my right side again So I am completely rested by the time I do my second set So I'm getting those 20 reps in but I'm doing it in two sets rather than in one set and so then I'll just do Multiple sets to get the same amount of work in I think I heard him Driving this to you.

2:25:27It's it's the amount of work. Yes, right. So he's out worked you Yes, because he's done more You have to have time and you you will feel like a lazy bitch because you're doing your set But then your your heart rates completely drop down before you do it again Really? Yeah, I take a long time. I watch TV. I'll get on my phone. I fuck off. I sit down and you feel like a lazy bitch But I'm doing it over two plus hours. Wow. So when it's all over I'm getting a lot of reps, but I'm not getting the same breakdown of form So the way he says it is he says that strength is a skill And that you shouldn't be doing skills when you're exhausted like he doesn't believe in like CrossFit and like all these Workouts where you're going to extreme Repetitions where you're breaking down your your body's right, right You even get injured that way.

2:26:21Yeah, yeah, yeah, they do And some people don't you know, but these are elite athletes and you build yourself up to it and I understand I'm not against CrossFit have you noticed that you got I'm not either have you noticed that you've gotten a lot stronger? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, by doing it this way Well, this is the thing like I don't bench press, but one time we were doing this This podcast and we were drinking and we're drunk and we all like went to see I don't even we were drunk. I don't bench press but I bench press 225 13 times And I don't do it. I don't know. I was like let's say and I was like yep But that's no bench pressing.

2:26:55I don't bench press. What are you here for your chest? I do pushups I do a hundred pushups a day and I do dips. Mm -hmm. That's it. Yeah dips are dips are great Yeah, so I don't like have a big chest So what else do you do supplement with so you take like Every day, creating some amazing every day. I think you know, especially for women by the way I think if you're a female and your 40 years or older you need to be taken I think it's great for your mind too. There's great for cognitive function cognitive function and also cognitive function if you're sleep impaired It's one of the few things that's shown that can completely diminish the effects of sleep deprivation True should most certainly make up for that sleep.

2:27:34Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying you don't need sleep Just take creatine you definitely need sleep. We were talking about this the other day Yeah, I think it's one of the most important things that people neglect. I think so too. Um, so I take creatine every day I take all the supplements that you recommended to me TMG methylfolate I take lots of vitamin D K2 Yeah, all that jazz. Do you take that 10x optimized? Do you take the the multivitamin or do you take them separately? I take everything separate. I take I take a I use pure encapsulations vitamin packs Yeah, so they have a pack that has like basically all your shit and then on top of that I a lot you know one thing that I've started taking that I've been taking actually for a while that I I was having a decrease in my eyesight and it was pretty noticeable as you know age related macular Degeneration so I started taking macular support by pure encapsulations that seems to have had an effect But really what's had an effect is a red light bed.

2:28:30I know red light bed is had a big effect I've got people like you text me like bro my eyesight is totally improved my stop deteriorating and start It improved slightly. Yeah, it's definitely where the point where I could look at my phone I don't need glasses because I was using reading glasses all the time when I was looking at my phone And now I don't need them at all anymore. Yeah, I would I would yeah definitely Red light therapy. I would add on what I gave you the other day those Perfect amino's which is just essentially the nine essential amino acids You know we talk about how most people are trying to dose protein so they can get to the amino acid equivalent or they're taking imperfect proteins like or incomplete proteins like collagen which which can't build Which is a great protein, but it won't build muscle because then But this is important point too you were talking about the other collagen does not build collagen I mean, I think that the idea that we can target direct proteins is is a fallacy You know, I use the analogy that we don't eat our nails to grow our nails and we don't eat our hair to grow our hair But we think that we can eat collagen to grow collagen and that's actually not true I'm not anti -collegiate.

2:29:34I'm just saying if you eat collagen or put collagen in your coffee It doesn't show up as collagen in your skin My preference will be you take something that is a Has all of the nine essential amino acids. I take one called perfect amino's But there's other products out there that are all nine essential amino acids you take Can I pour that into the water with the Hydrogen with the electrolytes in it 100 % is not gonna have any diminished I think the best morning cocktail is to take a mineral salt like a Baja gold salt or a Celtic salt Um, add that to your drinking water drop a hydrogen tablet in there take a scoop of perfect amino's put that in there Hydrate mineralize and get the amino acid Can I ask you another question about creatine?

2:30:22Is there any decreased benefit in taking creatine gummies versus creatine powder? You know, I don't I haven't looked at the at the at the bio availability I mean there's there's two types of creatine which you know, monohydrate and HCl monohydrate is where all of the research is there's a lot more research On creatine monohydrate But creatine also comes in the HCl the HCl I form and I tell people that if they if they take creatine monohydrate and they and they have Bloating which some women do they'll have a little water retention or some bloating then just take the creatine HCl What about HMG with creatine?

2:30:57No issues of that at all Is that a good thing because I know that a lot of companies they combine creatine and HMG for some reason Yes, what is the benefit of that combine the two of them together? So it's a myrofable uptake or cellular uptake right so bioavailability is a lot of these a lot of things that we We pair together for bioavailability like D3 with K2, right and magnesium as well, right? Yeah, and magnesium is one of the critical divisions I always take that with D3 and K2 that's good you take magnesium with D3 and K2 that's perfect That's a way that wouldn't you know, we can you take too much magnesium?

2:31:31You can take too much magnesium. It's a little hard. I mean it's a really essential light metal I mean you have to really over supplement with that. I take a nighttime I take this Think called by bio optimizers called magnesium breakthrough, which has seven forms of magnesium in it I'm a big fan of that you can also isolate the magnesium's if you have trouble sleeping magnesium D3 and 8 is really good magnesium citrate and glycinate are good for intestinal motility So if you're not somebody that has a regular bowel movements magnesium deficiency is highly linked to poor intestinal motility So if you're not somebody that wakes up within 45 minutes of the day and tazza bowel movement You may want to look to you know magnesium supplementation the night prior and see if that fixes your your bowel movement Also, you know people that have that ruminate at night who you know, they lay down to go to sleep in their body tire But their mind awake This is generally a rise and something called catecholamines these these neurotransmitters in the brain that create a waking state They're also the same neurotransmitters that create anxiety and trigger our fight or flight response a lot of times magnesium methylfolate Um, and a simple B complex will quiet those those squirrels very very simple methylated nutrients To actually break down those catecholamines because you know, I talk about this all the time a lot of people that suffer from Anxiety are never really told what it is Like nobody sits them down and tells them what is anxiety like why do I feel um Why do sometimes I feel like I'm in a heightened state of awareness And then I move from a heightened state of awareness to being anxious And then I move from being anxious to Full -blown anxiety like I actually feel the presence of a fear and then um You know sometimes that presence of a fear goes into um like a rapid heart rate or acute hearing or Publes dilate and then that goes into a full -blown panic attack and if catecholamines continue to rise you can even have a full -blown paranoia It's it's this rise in this category of neurotransmitters called catecholamines So if we identified Anxiety as that and I'm not saying it's always that but the majority of people have that form where Uh, and they have metabolism issues because of a gene mutation called compt And they are warriors not warriors So they later on to go to sleep at night their mind wakes up.

2:33:59They start ruminating thoughts at night If they think about anything at night, they'll take it straight to worst -case scenario So every scenario that they that they ruminate on at night they take it to worst -case scenario um, that's crazy that that could be Nutritionally related It's absolutely nutritionally related because when you when you talk about What what a catecholamines do in the body there are fight or flight response So if you if you walked out of this door right here and somebody was standing in front of you with a knife Uh, right in that hallway Your side kicking their ass your pupils would dilate your heart rate would increase your extremities would flood with blood You're hearing would get acute you would instantly start having a fight or flight response Well, what happened?

2:34:38Right? I mean that person didn't do anything to you yet What happened inside of your body that caused that response? You received a dump of catecholamines Norpinepinephrinephrine Fedron and dopamine one of those we call adrenaline So so you're in there's hyperacute state so that's That's like we dump those to an eight full blown fight or flight response Well, what happens if we dump them to a three Well, if that happens at night your body tired, but your mind awake And so you lay there just ruminating because your mind is in a wake and state even though your body is tired And so if you look at the pathways that actually break down catecholamines how do we down regulate catecholamines Complex of b vitamins a form of a form of uh B12 called methyl cobalamin which you can get anywhere um guys um A something called methyl folate um And every once in a while uh Sammy esodena somatiney it is astounding what you can do to human beings by putting those raw materials back Has anybody ever done a study on people with paranoid schizophrenia to find out if they're lacking in all this no doubt Paranoids gets a freni as are are the next level You know, it's what's really interesting is I interviewed a Harvard physician on my podcast and He was treating drug -resistant mental illness with um Diet mainly keto diets and He found that the beta hydroxybutyrate which is the ketone body the main ketone body in in this and and basic supplementation fixing their methylation pathways Meaning supplementing for for methylation poor conversion of certain chemicals um Led to more better behavioral changes than they were having in the drug -resistant Uh Mental illness group and it's it's really fascinating because we don't like to think that nutrient deficiencies could lead to serious mental illness could you um just uh Google uh methylation chart can I just share your chart of methylation the reason why I want to put it up here is because um and just click on any one of them once you once you put it up there It's going to look like this complicated Miriam just see a click on that one um, so this is something I've committed to memory but um The reason why I show a lot of people this chart um Is for what's not on here?

2:37:08So this is what we call methylation. Okay. This is this is the process that's going on 300 billion times a day Inside of all of yourselves and you'll see trip the fan and tyrosine and phenol alinean and chrono gas and lab The castaclastral you see all of this stuff from this chart The reason why I show people this chart is because this is going on 300 billion times a day inside of your body um every minute and every hour of every day And what you do not see on this chart is a single synthetic a single chemical or a single pharmaceutical So Why is it that we think synthetics pharmaceuticals and chemicals could be the answer to deficiencies in this chart They're not So what happens if I just start wandering around this chart and I find something like serotonin I go wow let me just let me just serotonin is the main driver of mood.

2:38:05I wonder how serotonin is made. Oh I actually in fact there's serotonin right there. What is it made from just follow that arrow up Oh, it's made from trip to fan and what do I need in order to convert trip to fan to serotonin? I need five htp. I mean thiamine. I need a complex of b vitamins Could it be possible that a complex of b vitamins is stopping me from converting trip to fan into serotonin? Yes, and what happens if I can't convert trip to fan into serotonin serotonin drops and if serotonin drops I cannot assemble moods that require serotonin So now I've been told I have a mood disorder and I have a nutrient deficiency Look at this anxiety 80d 80d.

2:38:48See that on there Okay, well what would be a mechum dopamine from phenolalanine and tyrosine? What if I had a deficiency in phenolalanine or tyrosine? Oh, I couldn't make it the neurotransmitter dopamine. What is dopamine? Dopamine is the main driver of behavior Well, what happens if dopamine is low? Now I have an addiction. Why? Because the absence of dopamine is the presence of addiction So could I have addictive behavior? Because I'm low in dopamine and not actually just addicted to nicotine alcohol drugs per misguidity gambling Absolutely, and why is it that most most addictions have a tendency to shift and never really go away if you've ever really Benin addict or ever known a true addict Why is it that their addiction has a tendency to shift and not go away?

2:39:34Yeah, like some of them find a healthy thing to get addicted to like running Yeah, there'll be a so Alcoholics become workaholics workaholics become work out of holics right when I used to compete amateur in and long distance triathlons Most of the guys that I raised with were recovering Attics of some of the scariest guys I've ever trained with were former drug addicts because they're this is their new They're fucking driven less in a weird kind of crazy way. Why are they driven so hard? Well some of them actually almost died Well, but you know Deaths door and come back The absence of dopamine is the presence of addiction and we never treat the dopamine deficiency We only treat the physical addiction.

2:40:20So we get you off alcohol and now you're on you know suboxone You get your suboxone and now you're gambling you're off gambling and smoke cigarettes you've done smoke and cigarettes you You know, some alcoholics anonymous people are smoke and cigarettes and drinking coffee constantly now Why is that because they're chasing the dopamine deficiency rarely if ever did a true out You know addict wake up one day and just say I want to get really banged up The majority of addicts woke up one day and said I want to feel normal And it was the search for normalcy That developed the addiction they spoke to cigarette they felt normal they took a drink and they could socialize They were permiscuous in the kind of felt normal.

2:40:59They jumped off a fucking mountain in a squirrel suit and the rush dopamine Actually brought their dopamine level to normal. They actually felt calm 15 inches away from death And so the deficiency in dopamine very often drives this and we label these people with mental illnesses we labeled them with mood disorders But serotonin is a Part of the recipe of mood so if you said to me what is a mood? What is an emotional state? I would say it's a collection of neurotransmitters bound to oxygen So let's say that you said okay, what's happiness? Okay, there's so much serotonin so much dopamine so much neuroponeffin so much I've had a firm bum you put these together you have the emotion happiness Well, what if I just took serotonin out Right like what if I went to a bakery chef and said hey chef you can bake whatever you want you just can't use butter And so I took butter out and it doesn't sound like a big deal.

2:41:56It's only one One component but think of how many recipes that would affect cookies pastry spies brownies Well The moods are no different. I say Joe you can be in whatever mood you want you just can't use serotonin So now any mood that you go to assemble That requires serotonin you can't manufacture So now you have a mood disorder Instead of taking a step back and saying well Why doesn't you have serotonin where serotonin made will serotonin is made in the gut 90 % of it's right here so if you don't have it here you can't have it here and And so then why don't we go to the factory in the gut that makes serotonin where is the factory that turns trip the fan into The neurotransmitter serotonin and well, it's in it's in the gut.

2:42:41What is that done through a process called methylation You mean if I'm deficient in certain vitamins or nutrients um That methylation cycle is not working and I might not produce serotonin and therefore I might have a mood disorder Yes, I'm I saying that all mood disorders come from that no But there's so many things that come from this methylation cycle that are so potentially easy to fix with basic supplementation You know for two years um For two years and our initial clinic my wife and I in our doctor We we pulled blood work. I thought it was about a 1600 Patients or so they came through our clinic.

2:43:22We pulled blood work and we pulled these basic biomarkers CBC ECMP liver panel hormone panel and nutrient deficiencies and then we also pulled this methylation test right looking at five genes and methylation and and And you can get these methylation tests done anywhere and we looked at these five genes and then what we would do is we would solve With supplementation for the genetic deficiency and watch what happened to the blood biomarkers You would see kidney filtration rates improve You would see waste elimination like people become more regular you would see See reactive protein these these non -specific markers of information drop you would certainly see things like homocysteine drop people have that very very high levels of homocysteine you supplement them with the right Nutrients of be complex something called trimethoglycein and they start to break down homocysteine and then all of a sudden They're reporting that their blood pressure is returning to normal and have less frequent headaches It is astounding to me how many people are just nutrient deficient and don't accept that basic supplementation or though we can get everything from diet Bullshit if you look at a soil lineage study from 1945 and a soil lineage study right now You would be astounded to see how depleted our fruits apply is or our soil is Add processed food and all this other stuff to it.

2:44:41You don't stand a chance You need you need Basic supplementation all human beings need the same things. We need two essential fatty acids Essential means they're essential for life You need Nine essential amino acids so you can supplement with the nine essential amino acids in the morning You can supplement with the two essential fatty acids. So make a three fatty acids like a black seed oil or Good make a fish oil You can supplement with the minerals Uh, it's so many of us are mineral deficient and we don't realize the expression of mineral deficiency Now what is the best kind of minerals to take is it like key -lated minerals?

2:45:21Is it I take one called boha gold sea salt It's probably one of my other favorite biohacks because of a bag of boha gold Sea salt like a Celtic salt We'll have all these trace minerals in it a 15 dollar bag will last you five years. It's dirt cheap and you can take a quarter to a half teaspoon of this put it in and you're drinking water I'll put with throw a hydrogen tablet in there and some amino acids take that with a methylated multivitamin and take that with um An omega -3 fatty acid and you have all the basis covered first thing in the morning And if you don't have to take that with the vitamins with food I would take the vitamin D3 with food.

2:46:01I would actually take all of that when I would take the the amino acids and the the hydrogen and the and the sea salt on an empty stomach is fine whenever you're going to take your multivitamin and and your D3 Which is that's all you will I would take those with food So First thing the morning you just hydrated and mineralized the body um just with a basic sea salt um just hydrate and mineral and there's a lot a good mineral in the amino acids you take or an empty stomach amino acids you take on an empty stomach and and and those amino acids uh those perfect amino acids won't won't break a fast They they're non -chaloric or they have I think one calorie But they won't break a fast And now you have all nine of the essential amino acids.

2:46:46You've got the majority of of the essential minerals You've hydrated yourself and you put hydrogen gas into your to your blood you will feel the difference right you you you just feel And it's a simple thing to do and it's such a simple thing to do um And I get so much flack for telling people to do them like it's just these this is just getting a Spac in the basic I do it's crazy It's just too many crazy people yeah, well have to start shutting it all off. Yeah, you have to it's it It'll make it'll make your life a lot better. You know what you're doing. Yeah. Thank you and people are listening It's working.

2:47:17Yeah, you know There's just too many people out there that are just crying for attention and one of the ways they get attention is by attacking people who are getting positive attention Yeah, yeah It's a shame Anything else we should talk about for a rep is up. I think I think we cover it a lot People gonna have to review this and yeah, I love coming out here and chopping it up with you, man I love having the fights tomorrow. Yes, sir. I'm excited. Yeah, tomorrow's the weigh -ins and then Saturday nights the fights I'm pumped and by the way, dude Joe Rogan on on the ultimate human Pocaster rear sighting as well.

2:47:52Yes, that was cool because we went down we went down some rabbit holes man We went down The pyramids and yeah, we talked about a lot of cool shit. Yeah, a lot of cool shit. Yes Well, thank you Gary. Thank you very much for everything. I really appreciate you tell everybody your website I think get a hold of you. Sure You can go to the ultimatehuman .com. I have a VIP community there where all I do is just teach I try to educate to inspire so that people will make a change so you can try my VIP community there I'll give you a Discount on joining the VIP community. I'll send you a free box of H2 tabs For joining up the ultimatehuman .com the podcast is the ultimate human and just my name Gary Parka.

2:48:30All right To the man. Thank you. Appreciate you. All right. Bye everybody. Oh Oh There and some amino acids take that with a methylated multivitamin and take that with um Anomega 3 fatty acid and you have all the basis covered first thing in the morning And if you don't have to take that with the vitamins with food I would take the vitamin D3 with food. I would actually take all of that when I would take the amino acids and the Hydrogen and the and the Sea salt on an empty stomach is fine whenever you're going to take your multivitamin and and your D3 Which is that's all you will I would take those with food so First thing the morning you just hydrated and mineralized the body um just with a basic sea salt Just hydrate and mineral and there's a lot a lot of good mineral in the amino acid you take Unempty stomach amino acids you take on an empty stomach and and and those amino acids Those perfect amino acids won't won't break it fast They're nonchaloric or they have I think one calorie But they won't break it fast And now you have all nine of the essential amino acids.

2:49:49You've got the majority of of the essential minerals You've hydrated yourself and you put Hydrogen gas into your to your blood You will feel the difference right you you just feel and it's a simple thing to do and it's such a simple thing to do Um And I get so much flack for telling people to do them like it's just these this is just getting a Spacic in the basic I do it's crazy Just too many crazy people yeah, well, they start shutting it all off. Yeah, you have to it's it may it'll make your life a lot better You know what you're doing yeah, yeah, and people are listening It's working. Yeah, you know There's just too many people out there that is crying for attention and one of the ways they get attention is by attacking people who are getting positive attention Yeah, yeah, that's a shame Fuck those people Those people anything else we should talk about for rep this up.

2:50:38I think I think we covered a lot People gonna have to review this and yeah, I love coming out here and chopping it up with you, man I love having the fights tomorrow. Yes, sir. I'm excited. Yeah, tomorrow's the weigh -ins and then Saturday nights the fights I'm pumped and by the way, dude Joe Rogan on on the ultimate human As well. Yes, that was cool because we went down we went down some rabbit holes man. We went down The pyramids and yeah, we talked about a lot of cool shit. Yeah, a lot of cool shit. Yes Well, thank you Gary. Thank you very much for everything. I really appreciate you tell everybody your website I think you get a hold of you sure You can go to the ultimate human calm.

2:51:15I have a VIP community there where all I do is just teach I try to educate to inspire so the people will make a change so you can join my VIP community there I'll give you a discount on joining the VIP community. I'll send you a free box of each two tabs For joining up the ultimate human calm the podcast is the ultimate human and just my name Gary Parka. All right Gary the man. Thank you brother. Appreciate you. All right. Bye everybody. Oh You